defend the indefensible: MICHELLE MALKIN

yeast infections generally are.

b/w (a) going on a crusade against (illegal?) immigrants (when she's the child of immigrants herself); (b) writing a sloppily-researched, ahistorical book about interning japanese-americans during WWII; and (c) outright slander vis-a-vis john kerry's vietnam injuries ...

I sort of feel sorry for Ann Coulter, who I think is really disturbed. I don't feel that way about Malkin, who I think is merely filled with hate.

but the fact that we are even discussing her means that the terrorists have won, so i'll stop now.

why is this?

It really bugs me when people pretend that Michael Moore, say, or Al Franken is just the leftwing counterpart to Coulter/Malkin/etc. That's like saying Charlie Chaplin was the leftwing counterpart to Joe McCarthy.

I don't think Moore comes off nearly as hate-filled as Malkin. He is just more likely to get caught up in his tangeled conspiracy theories.

That said, Moore has never impressed me with his intellect--he's more schtick than substance, and he's relied as much on hyperbole, half-baked conspiracy theories, disinformation, and crude manipulation of fact as Limbaugh has. I can't really think of many original ideas Moore has brought to popular discourse.

First:

A number of us in the blogosphere have been catching wind of rumors that a surface-to-air missile was fired at an America West flight originating out of New York. Here's a post at Little Green Footballs, where many commenters are wisely skeptical but wanting more info.

I just got off the phone with Phil Gee, associate manager of media relations at America West, who promptly returned my late evening call. Here's what he told me:

On Sept. 15 (Thursday), America West Flight 17 took off from JFK Airport at 6:05pm EDT [Update: The actual time of departure was 6:49 pm. -MM]. The captain "took the initiative," says Gee, and reported an "irregularity" to air traffic control as the plane was ascending. The plane continued to Phoenix and landed safely at 8:55pm MST. FBI and other authorities met and interviewed all of the crew and passengers on the plane. The investigation is continuing.

Then:

Update: A government aviation official who asked me not to reveal her name says the "missile siting was [a] false alarm:"

The sighting was reported near Colt's Neck, NJ, which is a major route south out of NY. FAA set up a small temporary flight restriction around the area while checking radar files. Turned out to be nothing more than birds, and [a] big game of "telephone."

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003563.htm

That pretty much sums it up.

http://worldnetdaily.com/images2/NEWMalkin.jpg

I have a question for the hordes of bleeding-heart Hollywood stars who joined the "Save Tookie" brigade, who bowed their heads in prayer with ex-Crip gangster Snoop Dogg and the Rev. Jesse Jackson and pleaded to protect convicted Death Row murderer Stanley "Tookie" Williams, and who lobbied so hard for the government to err on the side of life.

Where are you now?

In Boston, an innocent girl was sentenced to death by the state. Her name is Haleigh Poutre. Last fall, she was hospitalized after her stepfather allegedly burned her and beat her unconscious with a baseball bat. Haleigh was kept alive by a feeding tube and ventilator. Doctors said she was "virtually brain dead." They said she was in a "persistent vegetative state." The medical professionals pronounced her "hopeless."

Less than three weeks after Haleigh's hospitalization, the Massachusetts Department of Social Services was raring to remove Haleigh's feeding and breathing tubes. Even her biological mother (who had been deemed unfit to care for Haleigh and whose former boyfriend was accused of sexually abusing the child) wanted her to be put to death. The only person who wanted Haleigh alive was her stepfather, who will likely be charged with murder if Haleigh dies.

Earlier this month, the Massachusetts Supreme Court ruled in favor of killing Haleigh, saying it was "unthinkable" to give the power to make a life-and-death decision to the man accused of putting Haleigh in a coma. Instead, the court did something just as unthinkable: It handed that power over life and death to the same child-welfare agency that had failed time and time and time again to protect Haleigh from her abusers in the first place. According to the Boston Herald, a report by her court-appointed guardian showed that the Department of Social Services had received 17 reports of abuse or neglect involving Haleigh in the three years before her adoptive mother and stepfather were charged with pummeling her into a coma.

"State can let beaten girl die," the headlines trumpeted. But there was just one small complication for all of those who, for whatever reason, were in such a rush to "let Haleigh die":

Haleigh is fighting to live.

As state officials prepared to remove Haleigh's life support, the supposedly impossible happened. She began breathing on her own, responding to stimuli and showing signs of emerging from what the medical establishment had deemed her hopeless condition. Everyone had given up on Haleigh – except Haleigh. ''There has been a change in her condition," announced a DSS spokeswoman, Denise Monteiro. ''The vegetative state may not be a total vegetative state."

Unbelievably, the state had weaned Haleigh off her breathing tube before the state Supreme Court had made its ruling – but the government failed to inform the court of the development. Haleigh's medical records and the social service agency's brief remain sealed.

Politicians in Massachusetts are vowing full-scale investigations of the state's incompetent child-welfare bureaucrats. But where's the accountability for the medical experts whose faulty diagnosis led to Haleigh's court-approved death sentence? Will they step forward and reveal themselves? Will they explain how they erred? Will they apologize?

It was The Experts' unequivocal assessments that led the court to declare Haleigh in "an irreversible vegetative state" and to assert that "the child could not see, hear, feel or respond." Now, they admit they were wrong. And now, Haleigh's life depends on the whims of a hopeless government agency that didn't think the court needed to know that the child was breathing on her own.

Haleigh's story is a wake-up call to "right-to-die" ideologues who recklessly put such unlimited trust in the medical profession and Nanny State. With such uncertainty surrounding persistent-vegetative-state diagnoses, the presumption must be in favor of life. Yet, the "right-to-die" lobby's mantra seems to be: When in doubt, pull it out.

While Haleigh clings to life, I've pondered how we might help persuade the plug-pullers to put off the child's state-sanctioned death sentence. I propose nominating her for a Nobel Prize. It bought Tookie Williams five extra years.

Jamie Foxx and Susan Sarandon, will you join me?

Michelle Malkin's newest book, "Unhinged: Exposing Liberals GoneWild," is now available from the WorldNetDaily Book Service.

Though personally I like this post more re: Foley because of this howler:

all parents must be vigilant and immunize their children against predators early and often

Never knew there was a vaccination!

n/m. i found out.

Damn honey! I forget to get little Johnny his pedophile shot! Now he's all covered with congressmen!

Hey, you want to kick down a bit of the proceeds, it's all good. (Like I said elsewhere, I enjoy [in a very blackly humorous way] observing what the aliens are saying.)

Through the looking glass at last.

A girl after my own heart

shutup u open borders sellout

Um, why is someone from Africa asking questions?

amerpundit on July 23, 2007 at 7:39 PM

wut

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/30/gov-jindal-on-the-tonight-show-leno-mocks-indian-accents/

GOP Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal was on the Tonight Show Monday night. I watched it and was struck by how comfortable, charming, and authentic he is–without sucking up to the Tinseltown elite. (Jindal delivers a quick, funny comeback when Leno jokes that politics is the sleaziest profession.) He’s proud of his state and committed to his job turning it around.

The one thing I found jarring occurs starting at 2:12 and peaking at around 2:30. Watch Jay Leno make fun of his father’s Indian accent for a cheap laugh. What is up with that? Shades of Rosie O’Donnell’s Ching-Chong episode. Gotta love liberal Hollywood. Jindal handled it gracefully. He’s dealt with far worse from the tolerant libs at the NYTimes and AsianWeek, after all.

Jay Leno always does that shit, and it makes me uncomfortable too. I hate that I have to agree with Malkin on ANYTHING, but hatred of Jay Leno is a matter everyone should be able to get behind.

i just liked "gotta love liberal hollywood". leno is a racist douche 4sho but hes also a republican douche

i thot leno was a big democratic donor

http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/19909/

i'll be damned

Non-partisan D. (xp)

Leno is a big democrat donating "good guy" that isn't above being paid to be a total racist douche celebrity.

Didn't Leno make some dicey gay jokes a few months ago that caused some controversy?

Leno Dicey Gay.

He should have called him on intelligent design instead.

Malkin on open season on Seattle shocker

"Gorebulbs!" Because CFL is too hard to type.

"Democracy" is just one of their many tools

the concept of mayor Greg Nickels jump-roping is really really frightening

This needs to be monitored closely. At this point, the mayor is saying they will leave one lane open for local residents to use their vehicles on. What about emergency medical vehicles, fire trucks, police cars? How are they to protect the citizens when they are restricted to using only one lane? This is simply another attempt by people to bring anarchy to America. However, given the radical bicycle terrorists Critical Mass and their penchant for violently demanding everyone ride bicycles like them it is of great concern they will one day close the one lane for vehicular traffic altogether.

I love Malkin's defence of plastic bags:

The environmental benefits of these bans are dubious. As OpenMarket.org points out, “Plastic bags play a minimal role in filling landfills–they are squishable, if people haven’t noticed–and often are reused by consumers for multiple purposes.” In other words: This is yet another empty gesture to give smaller-is-better elites another opportunity to impose their preferences on everyone else:

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/03/bagless-in-seattle-green-cultists-to-tax-plastic-and-paper/

I believe the technical term is 'squishable', yes.

STOP
READING
HER
SITE
FFS

You're helping its continued existence.

...for lols

not that i have any use for her crazy ass whatsoever, but as a San Francisco resident I am starting to feel more and more like this city is trying to parent its citizens (and businesses). i guess it does make some sort of sense if rich people are moving out of the 'burbs into cities, that cities would start feeling more like gated communities.

those are public health issues, not "let's keep out the poor/minorities/weirdos" issues. I am totally okay with the city legislating that stuff.

it's unnecessary authoritarian bullshit. it's stuff that hits the poor and middle class the hardest, so yes it does affect the poor/minorities/weirdos more. and the Quality of Life laws are literally about keeping out the poor/weirdos.

waht is so hard about separating your trash - I don't see how mandating that landlords (not exactly the "poor" or "middle class" who live in SF) to provide adequate assistance with recycling hurts lower income people.

as for smoking ban - cry me a fucking river that the city is banning a toxic, deadly substance.

they should ban alcohol sales at ballparks next

and then legalize weed

prosecuting the homeless for being homeless is some straight bullshit, Shakey, unless you're going to provide housing for the chronically jobless/homeless

waht is so hard about separating your trash

OTMFM. It is not a hardship for anybody to separateout their trash, and it doesn't "hit the poor harder" to put shit into recycling tubs.

Tombot you triple-xposted me

WS

(btw I had to hassle my landlord for MONTHS to get the right recycling/composting bins and he just got cited by the city for making us keep our bins on the street cuz there's nowhere else on his property to put them so my sympathies are really with the city here)

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all bums should be gassed btw

homeless ppl are fuckin the worst thing about sf

worse than the ignorant fuccn mudppl and the hipster locusts

I am not quite as annoyed by the recycling issue - although they are talking penalizing people with fines. If landlords have to pay, tenants will eventually have to pay, and at this time there are still a few poor/middle class people left in SF (who rent).

As far as the smoking thing goes, Shakey, I understand where the whole militant healthy thing is coming from, but do you hate it so much that you want to live in a place where the government can tell a private business that they can't sell a legal product?

I don't necessarily know about the beggars specifically but SF sure does have its share of violent beardos

prosecuting the homeless for being homeless is some straight bullshit, Shakey, unless you're going to provide housing for the chronically jobless/homeless

I agree I don't see the point of putting homeless people in jail instead of in housing but I was referring to the first couple links in rockapads post there

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my big question is, would I get busted for leaving the lime slices in the bottom of my beer bottles?

As far as the smoking thing goes, Shakey, I understand where the whole militant healthy thing is coming from, but do you hate it so much that you want to live in a place where the government can tell a private business that they can't sell a legal product?

afaic, tobacco should be outlawed so yeah I'm okay with the gov't regulating/restricting the shit out of it

good for you. I flick butts on your stoop.

well jail is kinda like housing right? they're definately better off in jail than they are on the streets anyway

my big question is, would I get busted for leaving the lime slices in the bottom of my beer bottles?

it's only a matter of time.

xpost to Shakey, I guess we don't have much else to talk about, then. I pessimistically think you're side will win in the end. I intend to move out of this place long before that happens, though. Too many meddling busy-bodies here who can't tolerate other people's lifestyle choices.

awwwww poor smokers
enjoy yr corporate sponsored emphysema

nobody asked for your pity, you little snot. We asked you to mind your own fucking business.

always with the namecalling

I think the cigarette law is silly. I'm all for the taxing the fuck out of smokers though. The city should get their money before they die!

And then we should use it to pay for homeless shelters so they stop sleeping in Buena Vista Park and freaking out my dog when we walk there.

Haha I love how smoking and not recycling and sleeping and shitting on the streets are lifestyle choices now. PROTECTED BY THE CONSTITUTION!

xp: most crucial use of the word "out" ever

“Plastic bags play a minimal role in filling landfills–they are squishable, if people haven’t noticed–and often are reused by consumers for multiple purposes.”

They are encouraging dopesack transactional commerce.

http://www.imao.us/archives/twofavoritethings.jpg

afaic, tobacco should be outlawed so yeah I'm okay with the gov't regulating/restricting the shit out of it

wait, are you serious? you think that people shouldn't be allowed to buy cigarettes and other tobacco products?

also, where i live right now i can't even recycle shit even if i wanted too, b/c it would technically break my lease b/c i would be discarding my trash in a place other then my non-recycling landlords' domain. which is total bullshit, and i obv. need to take it up with them, but complaining about forced recycling seems insane to me

I'm not entirely serious cuz obviously criminalizing substances has such a huge successful track record lolz - but whatever can be done to kill the tobacco industry I am all for it. altho yes as Alex says first we should squeeze as much money out of it as possible.

guys, no one ever shit on my doorstep when i lived in sf or anywhere else. but guess what? where the fuck are people supposed to sleep? alex, do ppl sleeping in the park really freak out your dog?

I'm not entirely serious cuz obviously criminalizing substances has such a huge successful track record lolz - but whatever can be done to kill the tobacco industry I am all for it. altho yes as Alex says first we should squeeze as much money out of it as possible.

fair enough, i guess.

homeless dude urinated on my front door once. homeless dude shit in front of our practice space one time.

criticism?

No not too much actually. Occassionally she'll come across when chasing a squirrel and then I have to call her back.

There are shelters in SF. I have no idea how pleasant or not they are, but living in the midst of a number of very obnoxious homeless people doesn't make me real keen on their right to sleep in my doorway (or more accurately the doorway of the auto body place next door._ I've only found shit on my doorstep once admittedly.

homeless dude was homeless and didn't have the luxury OF LIVING IN A HOME. OR PLAYING IN A BAND AND MAINTAINING A PRACTICE SPACE IN SF. boo-hoo

witnessed aforementioned urination, got really angry, dumped a bucket of water on him from our window and that got him to leave. if he had staggered the foot and the half to the gutter or even asked to use our bathroom I would have obliged but wtf he was just being an asshole.

did not witness practice space defecation, but it was still a "freshie" when we arrived.

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Well I do have a home and while I'm happy to use tax dollars to help other folks find one too, my sympathy doesn't extend to wanting to listen to the crazed junkie couple rant at each other outside my window at nine o'clock.

where the fuck are people supposed to sleep?

lol uh are you shitting me

There are shelters in SF. I have no idea how pleasant or not they are

i'm sure they're palatial, and there's no waiting list whatsoever for them.

or more accurately the doorway of the auto body place next door

yeah, i mean, c'mon now. you could do everything within the power of humankind to house every last homeless person, and there would still be freaks hanging out in the park at 6am...or people sleeping in the doorway of the auto-body shop next door

this reminds me of my other favorite "ooh we have a practice space in the Tenderloin" story - we are driving in our van to unload gear and a suuuuuuper-drunk bum dude is staggering across the street at the crosswalk. we stop. guy falls down. we get out of the van to help him up. we pick him up and are holding him by his arms and asking him if he's okay and he's responding that he's fine, yeah yeah, let go of him. we let go - guy falls to the ground. A group of his drinking buddies + neighborhood kids are standing on the corner - pointing at him and laughing. we pick him up and drag him to the sidewalk, where he proceeds to sprawl facedown on the ground. get back in the van, park, go inside. came back out 30 minutes later dude is facedown in the middle of the street AGAIN and his friends are still all pointing and laughing.

good times.

everyone who has lived in SF has had 'homeless rage', but i try to temper my frustration with the fact that many of these people are retarded or crazy. it's the meth and/or heroin junkies who tend to piss me off the most. there should be facilities to deal with the former people and SFPD death squads to deal with the latter (i kid, i kid).

homeless ppl have the right to be sprayed with firehoses

i think people's patience with the homeless in the bay area is inversely proportional to how long they've lived here. i know mine is.

lol uh are you shitting me

ah, no. where are you supposed to sleep when you don't have shelter? jesus christ.

Yeah but see there are shelters.

yeah taking the bus every day past the methadone clinic has significantly impeded by sympathy for junkies and meth-heads. although sometimes they get into funny arguments, like whether or not Lou Reed was in Black Sabbath.

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it seems like most of the homeless in southern cal are harmless hobo/drifter types who like the weather, is it different in the bay area or something? i mean junkies are annoying sure

Yeah but see there are shelters.

lol

Shakey, maybe I've lurked on ILX too long, but didn't you visit India at one point? I mean, c'mon. There are always desperate people. If you want to complain about them bumming out your practice situation, then that's all well and good...but you have access to food and a place to sleep at night.

More crazies and junkies in SF. Although Skid Row is supposed to be pretty bad, so maybe just more crazies and junkies spread out across the city.

I think there is a difference between being homeless and obnoxious, dell. I think most SFers primary complaints with homeless folk have more to do with the latter than the former.

Admittedly most of the most obnoxious are crazy or high, but that doesn't make me feel any better when there is a pile of shit on one's doorstep.

SF has over 1000 homeless programs, btw. the city's reputation for being open and supportive of transients can in some ways be said to attract those very people - you have seasonal homeless folks who come here from other parts of the country cuz they know they can camp out in GG Park, not freeze to death, and sprange their way through a few weeks worth of 40s and weed or whatever. and then there are the junkies....

one group I don't really have a problem with are the migrant workers/day laborers - sure a few of 'em may get pissdrunk and pass out in the street on occasion, but mostly they're hardworking, regular dudes are who are just poor and trying to get by and, a lot of times, trying to send money back home to their families.

Its the crazed hippie junkie types that are the fucking worst.

dell yes I've been to India but poverty and homelessness there are almost completely different, a whole different issue (caste system, the cultural level of acceptance of becoming an itinerant ascetic, massive massive gaps in income levels, child labor/slave labor on and on)

I think there is a difference between being homeless and obnoxious, dell. I think most SFers primary complaints with homeless folk have more to do with the latter than the former.

yeah I think its key to point out that someone who's homeless in general inspires sympathy and a desire to help out. someone who's homeless and BEING AN ASSHOLE, not so much. not everybody who's homeless is cool and happy to accept a handout or sleep in a shelter. shit there are people in GG Park who don't WANT to sleep in a shelter cuz they can't do whatever they like there.

If someone pisses on my front door and assumes I'm going to let him sleep there, I'm gonna get Richard Perle on his ass.

mb i'm wrong, bums should be heralded as returning kings, they so wisely eschew the needlessly materialistic capitalist society that drains us of our wills to live~~~~~

i wish there were less homeless people in the city, but Gavin Newsome's "quality of life" crimes aren't going to help. how do you fine someone who doesn't have money? is prison supposed to scare these people? prisons are already overcrowded - none of these people are going to do any serious time. prison food > garbage can food anyway.

also pretty sure India doesn't have a meth (or a heroin) problem, like, at all - all the poverty there is mostly related to structural economic issues. and it is WAY way way more extreme than anything I have ever seen in the US.

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I agree that Gavin's being a dick about this homeless prison thing. But he's pretty much always a dick when he isn't marrying gay people.

cities are cities. in cities there are icky poor people who (gasp) smoke cigarettes and buy them cheap at pharmacies, there are gross crazy people who shit in their pants and get on the train, there are people who work 12 hour shifts who live in slums and don't know shit or give a fuck about recycling. let a city be a city, i say. no matter how hard he tries, Newsome (and the Seattle guy) isn't going to turn a city into a safe clean haven for rich people.

SF has over 1000 homeless programs, btw

really, whaa?

the city's reputation for being open and supportive of transients can in some ways be said to attract those very people - you have seasonal homeless folks who come here from other parts of the country cuz they know they can camp out in GG Park, not freeze to death, and sprange their way through a few weeks worth of 40s and weed or whatever. and then there are the junkies....

yeah, i get what you're saying. getting smacked in the head with a skateboard by some junkie kid is not part of what you are paying money to live anywhere for

i'm just saying that it sounds like the same threats exist anywhere as a matter of course in urban living. what it comes down to, mostly is being afraid of some threat to your well-being. the whole "quality of life" thing, I think by and large is a distraction. I'm as likely to be beaten up by some kids who have homes in philly as you are to be physically threatened by some homeless dude(s) in sf.

icky poor people who (gasp) smoke cigarettes and buy them cheap at pharmacies

huh??

interestingly enough, the current administration's homeless record isn't bad!

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/29/america/30homelessweb.php

See above link for SF's new law against pharmacies selling smokes.

i mean i understand, guys, and i'm perhaps being unreasonably combative on the matter of this whole issue...

pharmacies are known for selling cigs cheap. poor people are the only ones who are going to feel it.

SF has over 1000 homeless programs, btw

really, whaa?

that's what some report by Angela Alioto's committee says. homeless population is estimated to be around 15,000, with roughly 3,000 meeting the definition of "chronically homeless" (ie, absolutely nowhere to go 24/7). NY is I dunno how many times bigger than SF and they have 2,700 estimated chronically homeless. so what does that tell you.

fwiw I've never felt threatened by anybody in the city, except during the anti-war protests.

gavin newsom is a pimp, iirc he like hella rehauled the system so bums got food and showers and shit instead of just GIVING THEM MONEY, basically he was just like not assisting their alcoholism and that was terrible in the sfbg's eyes

(when I was threatened not by a cop - but by an ANGRY HOMELESS MAN who threw a bottle at me because when he called me a "faggot" for carrying an anti-war sign I offered to "fuck him in the ass")

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lol, it tells me that i can't do math

Newsom's a total bozo btw, guy hasn't done jackshit.

"pharmacies are known for selling cigs cheap. poor people are the only ones who are going to feel it."

This is a weird argument. Should we keep cigarettes as cheap as possible so poor people can buy more of them?

out of curiosity, does SF have a Mitch Ryder type homeless advocate?

DIGRESSION

haha, i love sf. i do.

weirdly enough, though, it was the only place where i've ever felt physically threatened (ok, once i did on a bus in maryland, but anyhow, i got out of it with a slap to the head)

i went to the Toronado one year for my birthday, and I swear some weird dude there would have physically killed me, were it not for the intervention of some kindly other guy who was sitting at the bar and thoroughly sick of this guy's shit.

Another time, I was at this bar and some guy called me a hat-wearing faggot. haha, wtf?

those goddamn faggots and their hats, when will they learn

This is a weird argument. Should we keep cigarettes as cheap as possible so poor people can buy more of them?

yeah really. maybe poor people should stop wasting what little money they have on an addictive substance that does nothing but make them sick

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empathy is not your strong suit, is it

any 24/7 urban retail business is a defacto convenience store, why target a "pharmacy" over a grocery store or a real actual convenience store or hell even a bar (assuming bars still sell cigarettes -- ones with large enough patios probably do) (if those are still legal...)

seems like an exceptionally dumb law.

it's a dumb law that is probably going to result in a lawsuit that will cost taxpayer dollars.

Shakey, I get what you're saying, but what about, say booze?

It is dumb law, but this it hurts poor people cuz it's makes smokes more expensive is a dumb argument.

also some guy threatened to beat the shit out of me once at zeitgeist once. i really have some sort of magic touch going on.

actually, I meant Mitch SNYDER, sorry. Anyway, does SF have one?

y'know, i don't know if there's anyone as high-profile as he was. sf denizens?

does it really make smokes more expensive?? i didnt make the walgreens = pharmacy connection, but i think they sell cigs for like supermarket level (ie exhorbitant) prices

any addict worth his salt is gonna go where he can maximize value for his dollar, tobacco shops are where its at right?

i doubt it'll raise prices on cigarettes at all, but there's the added "cost" of walking past the pharmacy to some other place if you want a pack.

whether it'll lower a pharmacy's profitability below the threshold of viability is the question, it would not be worth the effect of closing an urban drug store for this; i doubt that too but you never know. it's a bad law because it's meaningless, just posturing basically.

lol i was like, 'mitch ryder is a homeless advocate now, huh'

xp i could be wrong but i strongly suspect (based on personal observations) that most smokers tend to be working class and poor people. therefore, taxes and banning of cheap retailers hurts them disproportionately.

when matt gonzalez lost the election i cried

and some asshole on the muni made fun of my girlfriend for wearing a "matt gonzalez" t-shirt. he literally "haw-ed" at her and called her a "LOSER"

i dunno, every time the cost goes up don't n number of smokers quit? there are a billion conflicting studies on this no doubt

walgreens had the cheapest cigs in the city.

yeah, i'm not sure. i mean people have stopped/cut back driving, supposedly, in light of increased fuel prices... but nicotine is a seroious habit

sorry, i am crunching to get done with stuff today and am not doing a good job keeping up. i just wanted to state that the whole 'taking cheap cigs away hurts poor people' isn't supposed to be an argument against banning pharmacies. it's just one more reason i hate these busy-bodies that see this as part of a series of steps needed to ban cigs completely.

i don't even care about the tax thing. i'm ok with raising taxes. i wish i knew they were being used for something cool, but whatever. governments regulating businesses from selling otherwise legal products based on some idiotic "pharmacies are for healing" premise is some bullshit.

yeah, i mean, if that were truly the case, then douches should be more heavily regulated, b/c they are supposed to cause yeast infections and stuff

a study i'd like to know the answer to - arent we basically net winners because of smokers/taxes on smokes? i mean, whats the harm in dudes dying at 65 instead of 75 or 80, when theyre not going to be productive anyway but instead sapping tax money, esp when theyve given x amount more back to society over the course of their lives? maybe taking up smoking is a simple, selfless act we as americans can all do for our country

you are in the running for the dumbest poster ever, and competition is not thin on the ground either

treating cancer and emphysema are not cheap, in lost time or money. land devoted to tobacco is by definition not growing something else

that takes some of the sting off then!

what do studies say about this though? does state taxation compensate for state health care costs, when sweet, early death is accounted for?

xp did not consider the land factor!

to tie this thread into a big loop, why is it that these chain-smoking 80 year old homeless guys seem healthier than i am

actually i guess i should have worked Michelle Malkin in there some where for a proper loop.

anyone who makes it to 80 as a chain-smoker probably has a crazy good immune system - ive been trying to build mine up by being as unhealthy as possible for a few years now & i havent been sick since 2003.

iirc this woman who lived to 125 was a chainsmoker basically her entire life

ITT really moronic understandings of health

maybe they are actually 45 and just look 80.

so, uhm, what's this thread about?

michelle malkin goes off on seattle for some reason, ilx acquaints itself with the concepts of "logic" "health" and "san francisco"

Oh I've been there, it's a nice place.

EXCEPT FOR THE SMOKING BUMS

http://akugel.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/hobo-and-dog.jpg

btw the difference between alcohol and cigarettes is that alcohol gets you DRUNK (ergo, it can be fun) whereas cigarettes just make you addicted to cigarettes

some people get drunk on cigarettes.

this is what i was referring to yesterday, with the recycling thing, though to be honest I doubt it will ever actually come to be.

the big problem with the law to me seems to be enforcing it (ie, where's the extra labor gonna come from) but in principle I don't have a problem with it.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/262968_nsecondary15.html

I mean, if Seattle can't fuck up mandatory curbside recycling a few years ago, I doubt San Francisco will fuck it up today.

laws are different - SF's mandates composting (ie, that food waste be separated from recyclables and from garbage).

I imagine part of the reason behind this is that the city generates power with its compost (which I think is the only program of its kind in the nation...?)

she has opened up registration for commenting today. normally it's all right-wing looneys, so here's yr chance to jump in the lion's den:

http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-login.php?action=register

No thanks. The more people who go to that thing the more money she makes.

ygs, did a certain someone put you up to this?

Posted this on the Alex Jones thread, but it's worth putting here too

Alex Jones vs Michelle Malkin
http://rattube.com/blog1/2008/08/25/alex-jones-confronts-neocon-michelle-malkin-in-denver/

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/01/homeless-ohioans-for-obama-registering-in-droves/

The guy promoting the free taxi program to register the homeless in Ohio exults: “It’s a perfect opportunity for them to come in, register at a temporary address like a homeless shelter or a YMCA or something like that. They can register at that address because they don’t know where they’re going to be tomorrow or next week.”

Another woman describes trolling bus stops and picking up prospects: “I asked ‘em if they’re registered to vote and if they weren’t, I said ‘Get in the car, I’m bringing you!’”

A homeless thug now registered to vote comments: “They picked me up. They seen me walkin’ around. So day said, ‘You wanna vote?’ I said, ‘Yeah, I’ll vote.’ (laughs) Day said, ‘We’ll take you anywhere you want.’ I said, ‘Dat’s cool’…If day say ’sign the ballot,’ just give ‘em and do exactly what they want you to do.’ I mean, hey, dis is America, you know?” (laughs).

Who does this new voter support?

“Barack! I mean, I want him to do his thang. You know, do his thug thizzle. You know. That’s how I like it to be. You know. (laughs).”

Organizers hoped to sign up 1,000 like him by the end of the day yesterday — and more all week.

Palestra reporter Shelby Holliday who intervewed the goons has a blog post on her encounters here.

ACORN, as you know, is heavily involved in these fraud-riddled voter registration efforts in Ohio.

fitting, there are droves of homeless people thanks to ronald reagan after all. maybe if they hadn't dismantled as much of the safety net as possible these guys would not be in that situation. some of them might even vote republican.

So, what the fuck is Malkin's point here besides lol racism? I mean "Resolved: Homeless do not have the right to vote" is not exactly gonna fly.

I mean, I want himMalkin to do hisher thang. You know, do hisher thug thizzle.

shes obv pkaying the lol hiimeless are retards angle but theres also a hint of omg we r losing

http://michellemalkinisanidiot.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/michelle-malkin-game1.gif

A homeless thug now registered to vote comments: “They picked me up. They seen me walkin’ around. So day said, ‘You wanna vote?’ I said, ‘Yeah, I’ll vote.’ (laughs) Day said, ‘We’ll take you anywhere you want.’ I said, ‘Dat’s cool’…If day say ’sign the ballot,’ just give ‘em and do exactly what they want you to do.’ I mean, hey, dis is America, you know?” (laughs).

wtf?

"Just Visiting Iraq" LOL

http://www.lejalgenes.com/mixtapes/dj_mista_-_dats_wassup_vol2_cd1.gif

what was the original post of this thread?

knowing tad, it was probably something racist/misogynist

the michelle malkin thread

he never requested any changes to his posts about "uncle clarence thomas" or "condi jemima"

On October 3rd, 2008 at 6:17 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:
Buy ammo, lots of ammo. Clean your guns. We will have trouble starting in November, win or lose.

i have been reading her every day lately, maybe that's why i've had trouble sleeping. i like to keep track of her concerns over "voter fraud"

okay, for this

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/23/why-that-mccain-volunteers-mutilation-story-smells-awfully-weird/

she is defensible

still WS

Petty, childish, vitriolic, acerbic, doesn't this bitch ever stop nagging? Aren't there laws against her kind of bullshit?

i liked this post of hers haha http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/06/new-national-anthem-my-president-is-black/

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZDI4NTllZjZkMDhlNjMzMzdkMzVmYWRhOWRhNDA4MDI=

In the Year of Bottomless Bailouts, I am most grateful this Thanksgiving for Americans who refuse to abandon thrift, personal responsibility and self-reliance. When the moochers and entitlement-mongers drive you mad, remember that our nation still serves as home to millions of citizens who do for themselves. Like our Founding Fathers, they are God-fearing people — the ones elitist pundits ridicule as “oogedy-boogedy” — who will never put their faith in the Cult of You Owe Me.

Cult of You Owe Me located in mall kiosk between Cult of Fuck You Pay Me and Cult of Fuck You Got Mine

Did you hear about the plight of a South Wales couple who pointed out that CNN’s careless reporting of the Mumbai hotel siege endangered their lives?

Fox reports. You decide.

CNN reports. You pray for your life:

hahahahaa oh man

http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/1dhimmitube.jpg

whats the diff between this + stormfront posters who call it "jewtube"???

what about crutis borad posters who call it jewtube

they are worse than hitler

Like our Founding Fathers, they are God-fearing people

please fucking stop with this

This is a friend of a friend story, but it sounds like it could have happened…

A guy was driving on the interstate and he came up behind a car driving slower than the speed limit in the left lane. He flashed his lights, but they refused to move out of his way. He ended up passing them on the right and noticed that the driver and passengers were black. A short distance later, he pulled off at a rest area. As he was getting out of his car, the blacks he had passed pulled up behind him blocking his car. They all jumped out, surrounded him, and began to threaten him. One thing he remembered them Gus saying is, “things are going to be different when Obama is president”. Luckily, the guy was able to reach into his car and grab his pistol.

I fear the blacks will become emboldened with the thought that they are in charge now and we’ll hear more stories like this. If anything, I think race relations are going to be set way back.

i thought rest areas were for secret gay sex

"As for the t-shirt, maybe they could print others that say “My mayor is black” for people in New Orleans, Detroit, Washington DC, Memphis, etc… uh oh, do you spot a trend?"

"So when you are getting robbed, mugged, raped, shot or stabbed are you going to emphasize that you aren’t a “racist“, hoping to sway your perpertrators? Or maybe you are gonna say you voted for Obama to save your life and maybe you really did. They have already made up their minds that you are a racist, even if you aren’t. You are white, thats good enough for them"

"This is a friend of a friend story, but it sounds like it could have happened…

A guy was driving on the interstate and he came up behind a car driving slower than the speed limit in the left lane. He flashed his lights, but they refused to move out of his way. He ended up passing them on the right and noticed that the driver and passengers were black. A short distance later, he pulled off at a rest area. As he was getting out of his car, the blacks he had passed pulled up behind him blocking his car. They all jumped out, surrounded him, and began to threaten him. One thing he remembered them saying is, 'things are going to be different when Obama is president'. Luckily, the guy was able to reach into his car and grab his pistol.

I fear the blacks will become emboldened with the thought that they are in charge now and we’ll hear more stories like this. If anything, I think race relations are going to be set way back."

"This “black” man would not be the President Elect if it had not been for his “white” mother who did not abort him. That is a fact - not a racist comment."

"Can anyone inform me of any group of mostly black people where there is peace, harmony and productivity? A nation, state, bowling league? Hello, is this thing on?"

“My mugger was black”

"Yes, exactly, why delay the inevitable? Let us see just how tough these rag headed gang bangers are when opposed by people ready, willing, able and anxious to fight back?"

"Can anyone inform me of any group of mostly black people where there is peace, harmony and productivity? A nation, state, bowling league? Hello, is this thing on?"

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/11/continental_bowling_league_in.html

Can anyone inform me of any group of mostly black people where there is bone thugs -n- harmony?

can't wait til these folks catch wind of the boule. revel in the deliciousness of black/white conspiracy theory convergence

What's strange, though, is that the greatest "moochers" and "entitlement hoggers" or whatever in the nation are ... the Republican base! All the red states are client states of the blue states because of federal income tax disparity ... so basically, Malkin is criticizing her very audience with shit like that.

The only reason most of those yahoos even have jobs to be mooched from is because fruity liberals in New Jersey and Connecticut fork over piles of cash that create jobs for those "government sucks! stop the welfare queens!" types.

If government did get out of state business like those people want, they'd have the rug pulled right from underneath them. Bunch o morons.

Friday, January 09, 2009
Michelle Malkin :: Townhall.com Columnist
Who's Afraid of Joe the Journalist?
by Michelle Malkin

If a community organizer can be president and a Saturday Night Live comedian can be a U.S. senator, why can't a plumber be a reporter?

Joe Wurzelbacher, a.k.a. Joe the Plumber, is headed to Israel to interview ordinary citizens about life in the crosshairs of jihad. He'll be filing dispatches for conservative Internet video broadcasting site PJTV.com (to which I also contribute). Predictably, the very idea of a non-credentialed public figure attempting to "do journalism" has catty elite journalists hacking up hairballs.

CNN television anchor Kyra Phillips sneered (in her most objective and professional manner, of course): "Oh, Lord, Joe the Plumber's got a new gig. It's got nothing to do with the pipes, it's got everything to do with Gaza." After catching her breath during a commercial break, she embellished her teleprompter lines with ad-libbed contempt (something only seasoned professional journalists have experience doing, you see): "Now Joe the Plumber wants to flush out the truth as a war correspondent. I know, there are just no words."

Still not done trashing the Toledo, Ohio, citizen who had the temerity to question Barack Obama's redistributionist policies, Phillips piled on more derisive words: "Hey, Joe, what do you know? No, seriously, what do you know? … He says he hopes to air Israelis' views on the Gaza offensive. Lord, help us. Just want to remind you that Joe the Plumber has no journalism experience. No war zone experience, either. But he thinks he's, quote, 'pretty well protected by God.' So, what's Joe been smoking, drinking?"

What's he smoking and drinking? Clearly not the same ideological Kool-Aid and liberal fumes that you and your snobbish colleagues imbibe and inhale, Ms. Phillips. The CNN anchor has some nerve questioning Joe the Plumber's journalistic credibility when her own cable news network once hired former "NYPD Blue" actress with zero journalism experience Andrea Thompson to sit in an anchor chair like the one Phillips occupies.

As to the media hounds now braying at the idea of hiring celebrities for the sake of publicity, which network was it that hired foul-mouthed entertainer with no anchoring experience Kathy Griffin to co-anchor its New Year's Eve coverage? Oh, yeah: CNN. Griffin teamed up with CNN star Anderson Cooper, whose resume includes stints as a child model, fill-in host for "Live with Regis and Kelly," and the reality show "The Mole."

Who's afraid of Joe the Journalist? Unlike Phillips, I do not begrudge anyone an unconventional path to journalism. On the Internet, conservative bloggers with full-time day jobs have done incredible investigative work without a journalism school credit to their names. So have independent war correspondents like Michael Totten (blogger) and Michael Yon (Special Forces veteran).

Groupthink, credential fetishism and the Sorbonne mentality have turned national newsrooms into stale echo chambers. For all its self-aggrandizing paeans to "diversity," mainstream American journalism remains one of the most intellectually and ideologically monochrome sectors of the public square.

Territorial liberal journalism gurus have attempted to de-legitimize unorthodox practitioners of their trade by redefining "journalism" based on content. If a conservative writer breaks news harmful to their presidential pick or contrary to their worldview, it's a "hit piece," not investigative reporting. If a conservative website interviews newsmakers or provides original legislative analysis, it's "propaganda," not explanatory or expository journalism. Thus, the myth that conservatives don't "do journalism" persists. By their definition, we never can.

Joe the Plumber's new gig is an affront to the Fraternal Order of The Professional Journalist because it underscores hard truths: An Ivy League journalism degree does not a truth-teller make. International war broadcasting experience does not a truth-seeker make. Look at Pulitzer Prize-winning Washington Post fabulist Janet Cooke. Or New York Times fiction writer Jayson Blair. Or Boston Globe fabricators Patricia Smith and Mike Barnicle. Or former CBS News Captain Queeg Dan Rather.

Or closer to the action in Gaza, witness the veteran editors of Reuters photographer Adnan Hajj, who succeeded in peddling Photoshopped images of fake smoke billows and flares over Beirut in 2006 before bloggers blew the whistle.

Or consider the Hamas sympathizers at France 2. The international TV network was forced to apologize this week for its false story on Israel's military operations. Independent French bloggers showed that France 2 used an old 2005 amateur video of Palestinian casualties from an accidental Hamas truck explosion and passed it off as current footage demonstrating the violence in Gaza. France 2 was the same professional media outlet that aired a bogus September 2000 report blaming the Israeli army for the shooting death of a Palestinian boy, Mohammed al-Dura.

Joe the Plumber-Turned-Reporter can't do any more to harm journalistic credibility than the "credible journalists" have already done.

Joe the Plumber-Turned-Reporter can't do any more to harm journalistic credibility than the "credible journalists" have already done.

sounds like a challenge

Well, dude's still otherwise unemployed, isn't he? He might just be the man to do it. Hell, that radio show hasn't come yet.

Has he paid his back taxes yet?

Only liberal scumbags challenge Joe's credentials as a citizen journalist because of the liberal-backed hit job about his taxes.

I will watch JTP only if there is a flushing sound after every piece.

Territorial liberal journalism gurus have attempted to de-legitimize unorthodox practitioners of their trade by redefining "journalism" based on content.

^^ my god michelle, you're right

kathy griffin thing doesnt make any sense - that was an entertainment special on new years eve!! does she really think the dreaded liberal media wouldnt be rofflin if cnn dispatched kathy griffin to cover israel and gaza??

i think it's cos the person griffin flipped out at on the air was michelle malkin

I was under the impression that even plenty of conservatives decided, once Joe started talking about stuff left and right, that he was kind of a tool.

I mean, there's like a spectrum from "hypothetical example" to "real-person example" to "actual real person who talks about stuff," and Joe completely missed that he was supposed to be the middle item in that list.

dunno why he'd want to be in israel now since back in october he said if obama wins israel will be destroyed

lol, someone said that yesterday (was it you?)

He and everyone else also are eliding the obvious point that all these other gigs he's getting into must mean that the non-Obama economic plan = not so much money for people to spend on plumbers, huh? JUST LIKE OBAMA SAID.

Actually guys it just dawned on me that it's possibly better that the guy is trying to seize his fifteen minutes and attention-whoring himself into a settled corner now -- it'd have been really horrible if he'd stayed quiet and uninvolved and then next election cycle people did horrible "where is Joe now" and "how has Obama's administration been for Joe" pieces.

i'm still not 100% convinced that this guy wasn't a plant from the get go

he so was

I dunno, he struck me as being self-planted, if that makes sense.

like he walked over to obama to ask a question, the idea to do such being his own?

how'd she forget to mention d.l. hughley?

Like he was a committed partisan who saw the candidate would be available near him and constructed a plan to go up to Obama in the guise of an ordinary concerned citizen and ask a question he had carefully constructed to make a particular point.

(Not precluding the possibility that it was someone else's idea or talked over with many or whatever else, I just don't presume he was some big RNC ploy.)

it'd have been really horrible if he'd stayed quiet and uninvolved and then next election cycle people did horrible "where is Joe now" and "how has Obama's administration been for Joe" pieces.

who's to say that these scenarios STILL won't happen after joe's israel gig?!?

well, we are assuming he will be shot

They might, but they'll be kinda ruined by (a) common knowledge of the guy's political sensibilities, and (b) dude's excellent efforts to make everyone way too sick of him to care

also, getting shot in the face by someone in a warzone

I mean, the "what happened to Joe" story isn't nearly as good if the answer is something like "he works on pointless right-wing media crap now, remember?"

guys, how can we be sure that joe the plumber isn't jeff gannon??

Ah, Malkin. Never fails to think the exact opposite of what I think. I'm still having a hard time keeping myself from LOLing when I remember she was all "You go, girl!" the instant Palin's name was announced. Later, after hearing Palin talk, her support quietly but funnily faded away.

uncredentialed journalists and bald-headed sex workers everywhere xp

well, we are assuming he will be shot

leading to a truly fantastic REMEMBER JOE video montage at the '12 convention

HE DIED TO KEEP FREEDOM FREE

http://www.dga.org/news/v27_2/images/featuresjuly02/shield4_full.jpg

YOUR NEW TAX PLAN'S GONNA TAX ME MORE, ISN'T IT?

http://mydailyclarity.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/malkintinfoil2fp-300x204.jpg

( http://mydailyclarity.com/2009/01/is-the-us-media-making-americans-stupid/ )

apparently she thinks lindsay graham is too liberal?
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01312009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/the_rush_revival_152941.htm?page=0
that's at least entertaining. bring on civil war ii

Meeting of the minds: http://www.pjtv.com/video/PJTV_Daily/Conservatism_20%3A_Rush_vs_Steele_%26_A_National_Tea_Party_Movement/1465/5167/

surprise! michelle malkin is a randroid!!

Those poor families with incomes of just $250,000 a year or more...

A moment of realization

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/09/alec-baldwin-and-michelle-malkin-both-lose-troy-davis-twitter-fight/42819/

Michelle Malkin is an awful person, but regarding that Haleigh Poutre article upthread, the girl is about 17 years old now. I don't know how much she's recovered; back in 2006 she could talk by typing into a machine and had some mobility, though none in her legs.

So she's decided to start a new site called...

http://twitchy.com/

Uh.

Twitchy is a ground-breaking Twitter curation site powered by a kinetic staff of social media junkies. We mine Twitter to bring you “who said what” in U.S. politics, global news, sports, entertainment, media, and breaking news 24/7. If it’s news, we’re on it. If it should be news, we’re ahead of it. Get Twitchy and stay connected to our twire — the news wire of the 21st century.

"Hey, Andrew's dead. Time for my own little Breitbart.com!"

oh my God lol.

If it's news, we're on it. If it should be news, we're ahead of it.

See also.

Pepsi Blue is people?

^^^wtf this response:

I noticed Pepsi has tasted a bit different over the last few years. I really hope this isn`t true.

Isn't twitchy synonymous with being neurotic and disturbed? Maybe she knows herself better than I suspected.

The art design is what gets me. "We need to be cuddly or something."

Jesse Malkin

Former health economist and marathon runner now recovering from hip surgery. Doesn’t really know how to use Twitter, so is relying on Twitchy’s editors to tell him who said what. Hopes to someday beat his wife at Boggle.

I don't know how I missed "at Boggle" the first time I read that

Former health economist

"So honey, turns out providing health care to everyone's a good idea!"

"YOU QUIT YOUR JOB NOW YOU LYING SACK OF LEFTIST SHIT."

I don't know how I missed "at Boggle" the first time I read that

FTW

http://wonkette.com/499250/michelle-malkin-fights-for-truth-can-gun-grabber-gabby-giffords-even-write-stuff

she remains one of the worst people ever

I have probably said it before he but fuck she really gets me with her meanness. It's like, the way she would like the world to be is the absolute worst place imaginable.

I almost pity her because she is so filled with poisonous hatred towards everyone and everything that I imagine she leads a pretty miserable existence.

Michael Moore doesn't have half the brainpower of Coulter or Malkin.

I wonder about her kids, really. And her husband.

this is just venom ... no decency at all.