― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― 57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)
Yup, 5 days. Not kidding, either.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Hey Jude, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Huk-L, Wednesday, 27 October 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 28 October 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 28 October 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dale Panopticalis (cprek), Thursday, 28 October 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 October 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 28 October 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)
Then start writing.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)
Mine involves bizarre cults, unsavory business practices, film crews, shellac and Deef the Wonder Horse!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― W i l l (common_person), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 29 October 2004 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 29 October 2004 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)
Not even silly things, baby eating slugs or whatever. Its awful!
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 29 October 2004 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)
-- Begs2Differ (expresso222...), October 29th, 2004.
because...love you too much... baby....
― Pangolino (ricki spaghetti), Friday, 29 October 2004 02:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 29 October 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)
My NaNoWriMo advice -- because I'm thinking of doing it after all:
1) Have an idea, today. Know the answers to the following questions:
a) Who's your main character?b) What do they want?c) What is the first/obvious obstacle keeping them from achieving it?d) Who, if anyone, doesn't want them to achieve it?e) Who are three other characters, and how do they divert the protagonist from his plans?f) What is the first image of the novel? Not what people are saying, not what they're thinking, not what's going on: if it was a movie, what's the first thing we see when the previews are done, and why is that what you're showing us?g) What happens ten thousand words from now?
2) Fuck message boards.
3) Seriously, fuck message boards. Fuck talking to other writers. Fuck mailing lists. Fuck getting coffee to cheer each other on. Fuck reading over each other's work. Other writers don't exist. Fuck them. Writing communities exist to prevent you from writing. You may as well cut your hands off and feed them to lizards.
4) No, seriously. All that time you spend talking about writing is time that satisfies "the writing urge" while getting nothing done. You're grabbing a snack before going to dinner, when your goal is supposed to be cleaning your plate. Stop it. This, above absolutely everything else, is the number one thing would-be writers do wrong. You can be cool later. You can praise and be praised later. You can share anecdotes later. You can Be A Writer later. Writing is a solitary activity, and if you find you keep trying to make it a social one, keep trying to make it a spectator sport, then it just isn't for you.
5) Write every day. If you don't have time ... yes you do. If you have time to tell me you don't have time, fuck off, that's time enough to write a sentence. Writing a sentence is better than writing nothing. Not at the computer? Write it on your shoe.
6) Stop thinking about all the reasons you aren't writing, and just write when you have time. Worry about word count once a week, and figure out where you can make more time. Figure out if you're wasting time when you're writing, and not just making enough time to do it -- are you staring at the screen a lot? Stop that. Type.
7) Figure out, today, where your tough spots are going to be, time-wise. Are you hanging out with the extended family for Thanksgiving weekend? Don't plan on getting anything done. If you tell people you need to take a couple hours away from them to write, they'll just think it's cute, and want to talk about it, and you'll end up spurting out your writing urge like in #4. No one has an inherent right to know about your work. Write it. They can read it later.
8) Assume that twenty thousand of your fifty thousand words will go slower than you expect them to, because plot points will develop that you didn't anticipate, and they'll throw you off.
9) Begin immediately. If you're awake at midnight tonight, write out that opening image. If you're not, do it tomorrow morning. If you don't have time tomorrow morning, yes you do. Get up half an hour earlier. No one's ever crashed a bus because of thirty minutes of lost sleep.
― Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 31 October 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Sunday, 31 October 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Sunday, 31 October 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)
(alternatively, I'll write a novel based on each song played on shuffle on my ipod on the way in to work tomorrow morning)
― Markelby (Mark C), Sunday, 31 October 2004 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Sunday, 31 October 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Sunday, 31 October 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 1 November 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 1 November 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)
EVERY YEAR SOMETHING GOES WRONG WTF.
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 1 November 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 1 November 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)
Well right now I'm at work, so I really do have an excuse sadly. But once home... onward!
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 1 November 2004 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 1 November 2004 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 1 November 2004 05:03 (twenty-one years ago)
Very good advice. I have nothing to do with anyone else involved with this thing when I'm working on it (aside from chatting on this thread here with you good people. :-))
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 1 November 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― spap oop (ernestp), Monday, 1 November 2004 05:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 1 November 2004 05:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 1 November 2004 06:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 1 November 2004 06:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 1 November 2004 06:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 1 November 2004 06:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 1 November 2004 06:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 1 November 2004 07:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 1 November 2004 08:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Monday, 1 November 2004 09:35 (twenty-one years ago)
Gah. Last night, I found yet another story that I started, and had a good time with, and then it petered out around 40,000 words because I just got bored with it. Why do I do this?
― Two-Headed Zombie With No Face (kate), Monday, 1 November 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 1 November 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 1 November 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 1 November 2004 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 1 November 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 1 November 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 1 November 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 1 November 2004 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 1 November 2004 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― sophie, Monday, 1 November 2004 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 1 November 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 1 November 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― luna (luna.c), Monday, 1 November 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 1 November 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)
Writing without a clear sense of structure this time round is possibly not a good idea.
― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)
X-post you're lucky! I'm using notepad or something. I haven't written on this computer in years and haven't got Word installed. Grrr.
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 03:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 03:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 03:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 04:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 04:09 (twenty-one years ago)
Dead Gay Men, Inc.
L'Envoi -- in which a curious incident at a breakfast table results in a multinational
Chapter 1 -- the status of Dead Gay Men, Inc. in the present day, as well as some of the concerns of its CEO
Chapter 2 -- a young woman, a beagle, a Dead Gay Man and a mysterious online chat
Chapter 3 -- when a grandmotherly traditionalist confronts the forces of progress
Chapter 4 -- a Live Guy Man gets a sudden opportunity to investigate things further -- but with a surprising caveat
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 04:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 05:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 05:09 (twenty-one years ago)
Use OpenOffice, you nongs. It's good and it's free.
― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 05:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 06:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 06:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 09:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― sophie, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)
1 x comedy1 x thriller1 x biography1 x costume drama
― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)
I was just typing in Word, came to a pause, and discovered I was holding down the Shift key while I was waiting. Then a message popped up, informing me that since I held down the shift key for so long, the computer assumed I was disabled and reset the keyboard controls. :-(
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)
Use Linux and OpenOffice.
― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)
Blimey, so you did.
― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)
Oh wait.
― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)
Don't take a nap! You won't get up!!
Keep your fingers over the keyboard, even when pausing to ponder your next paragraph.
If you are blocked, then have your characters chat idly with each other. Dialogue = easy word count booster!!
WRITE, DAMN YOU!!
― spap oop (ernestp), Thursday, 4 November 2004 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 4 November 2004 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)
For me it's the reverse. I love description, dialogue's always been a bit of a pain.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 November 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Thursday, 4 November 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)
---
Eve had continued to flip through the slightly grimy pages, leading her to wonder if the plan was normally stored in a deep fryer. A somewhat cleaner page caught her eye:
PLAN 45143B OF THE BIG PLANKeep Secret
If, then yes.Reverse all angles and then remultiply the great conundrumLaunch all vipersReturn down the scattered elements and then place them in a boxMock all followers of the true way even though they are rightPonder the fates and then devour teaLeave
Phase 1
Control of DGMI must be obtained by means of sanctions further obtained with rocks and sticks. These must be launched by paper airplanesHaving done that, the inverted factory revision then suggests itself IMPORTANT! No coffee!Remember also – reflective glasses must not have the mirror side facing inward. There could be problems as a result.
Phase 2
Draft initial speech:
"The takeover has been achieved with the help of friendly aliens. Hark! It shall not be a concern of thine. Release yourselves from the bondage of unhappiness."Brand the survivors. Release them on the market.Scrub away that which is wrong and bad. Do not include self in this task.Begin digging.
Phase 3
Enjoy strange wonders of the mystic underworld. Consume mushrooms and ride dragons for strength. Avoid flowers.Envision a world with peace and harmony in it. Then hit self on head and kill.
Phase 4 and Last and Final
WORLD CONQUEST VIA THE MOLES!Now, coffee
Eve decided not to say anything specifically, but walked over and held it up to the other two, who stopped arguing to read over it."What in the --" began Wu."That's actually not my plan, happily, that was another one." Lopez had initially started and then relaxed upon seeing it."Well, whose plan was it?" asked Eve."The guy before me. He had these really strange ideas, see, and – ""Before you, wait a minute. Have other plans already been tried or something?""It’s not a FORMAL organization, really, but I was recruited. And they gave me this as a model because it almost worked last time.""So a guy out there was sorta recruited by something, came up with this plan, tried to make it work and almost succeeded.""Yes.""...so what went wrong?""He didn’t follow his own rules and had coffee during Phase 1. He was detected and I think is somewhere frozer in a glacier now."
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 November 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 November 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 November 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)
Matt I kiss you, this is what I needed to hear. I havent had a chance to write for a few days now for various reasons so I have to really knuckle down this weekend. Now I think I know how ;)
― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 4 November 2004 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 4 November 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 4 November 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 November 2004 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)
Cracking me up :D
― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 4 November 2004 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/dre600/e666/e66692bg97o.jpg
― yo! mo ritmo!, Friday, 5 November 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)
Haha. Not in this case but that works. ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 November 2004 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)
*whipcrack* Yah! Yah! WRITE! WRITE MORE!!
― spap oop (ernestp), Friday, 5 November 2004 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 5 November 2004 03:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 5 November 2004 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 5 November 2004 04:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 5 November 2004 04:23 (twenty-one years ago)
Chapter 5 -- Hayes reflects and LaRue watches and we all learn
Chapter 6 -- Eve meets Greg Lopez while watched by a bird
Chapter 7 -- Another bird ponders others then disappears
Chapter 8 -- Jason flies to NYC but the waters are not yet clear
Chapter 9 -- LaRue's blood enemies sit with him at a table, but they all slightly fry
Chapter 10 -- in New Jersey, a warehouse, and the first clear mention of Deef the Wonder Horse!
Chapter 11 -- Deef eats oats calmly. Other argue.
Entr'acte -- just another day in the universal media netweb
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 November 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 5 November 2004 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 November 2004 04:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 5 November 2004 05:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 5 November 2004 05:20 (twenty-one years ago)
No, it's an actual plot!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 November 2004 05:22 (twenty-one years ago)
Right now, I'm going home early, as I feel like I'm getting a cold. WHY EVERY NOVEMBER THIS HAPPEN ME?
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 5 November 2004 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 5 November 2004 05:31 (twenty-one years ago)
I am so going to enjoy writing this.
― Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 5 November 2004 06:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 5 November 2004 06:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― sophie, Friday, 5 November 2004 09:42 (twenty-one years ago)
*reads up* Trayce yr welcome. Best of luck!
― Matt (Matt), Friday, 5 November 2004 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)
And thanks Matt :)
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 5 November 2004 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)
I am no less agog at Ned's Wally Westian efforts than I was last year, even if it is taking him longer this time.
Sounds like everyone else is having fun and making good progress, which is very cool!
And although my 2003 Nanowrimo novel came out a little too rambly and nonlinear to do much with, I took a chunk of it, whittled out the bits that needed the rest of the novel, and sold it as a short story this morning. So, see, there IS a practical side to all this.
― Tep (ktepi), Friday, 5 November 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)
Heh. There's that election for ya.
And congratulations on the short story sell! Hm, must keep that more in mind. Would you mind dropping me a private mail? I'm feeling this year's effort is, as opposed to my other three, more an exercise than an actual manuscript to develop in full, but there are bits in it I like well enough that could stand alone on their own if I can swing it. But more on that elsewhere -- thanks much!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 November 2004 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 5 November 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 November 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 5 November 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 5 November 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 6 November 2004 08:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 November 2004 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 6 November 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 November 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 6 November 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 November 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 November 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 6 November 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 November 2004 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 November 2004 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 November 2004 05:11 (twenty-one years ago)
Today's the first day I didn't work on my story at all, 'cept in my head, but I had already gotten my word count so it's ok.
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Sunday, 7 November 2004 07:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 7 November 2004 07:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Sunday, 7 November 2004 07:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 7 November 2004 08:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 November 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 November 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 7 November 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 November 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 7 November 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Sunday, 7 November 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 November 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 7 November 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 November 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)
I started on Friday and had the weekend off, so it's probably not too bad really.
― Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 7 November 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 November 2004 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 7 November 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)
I'll catch you Ned if it's the last thing I ever do.
― Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 8 November 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 8 November 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 8 November 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 November 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 8 November 2004 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)
My plan's in chapters, and I'm changing it quite a lot as I go. There's a foundation, which means I can always write the next part of the story according to the plan.
I expect mine to be crap, but everyone has to start somewhere. :)
― Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 8 November 2004 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 8 November 2004 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 8 November 2004 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)
I've not touched a videogame in over a month. I'm considering digging out the N64 and having a retro afternoon.
― Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 8 November 2004 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)
Trayce, if you're really worried -- not about Nanowrimo, but after that -- just keep focusing on short stories for awhile. The more novels I finish, the fewer short stories I end up writing, which has been a problem on a practical level, and on another one it means I play with a tighter range of ideas now.
And writing LOTS of short stories will pretty much inevitably give you a feel for which plots are hard to wrap up in five thousand words, which ones need longer than that just to get geared up, how quickly you get sick of certain kinds of characters, etc etc.
― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 8 November 2004 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 8 November 2004 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 8 November 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Midnight ROFFLEr (haitch), Monday, 8 November 2004 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 8 November 2004 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 8 November 2004 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Monday, 8 November 2004 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)
i got some good advice though which might help someone. i was told, when in doubt, make all your characters go to a party together. also, give each character a job.
i didn't give my characters a job, but i wrote a good page about their personalities, which helped.
― sophie, Monday, 8 November 2004 11:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 8 November 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 8 November 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 8 November 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 November 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Greig (treefell), Monday, 8 November 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 8 November 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)
Anyway, the rest of my chapters:
Chapter12 -- Stolfoz gets some unexpected help
Chapter13 -- Hayes reveals just what a kind and understanding person he is
Chapter14 -- Deef flies, others surprised
Chapter15 -- a tunneller ends up in the wrong place
Chapter16 -- Hayes demonstrates that it's good to dream big
Chapter17 -- Herds of hamsters and an unfortunate fascination with sewers
Chapter18 -- Stolfoz demonstrates that all is not what it seems
Chapter19 -- LaRue hopes and despairs and hopes again
Chapter20 -- In which a robot is very much a fool, but a useful fool
Chapter21 -- the bitter truth of Hayes's background revealed -- except it's not so much bitter, more bemusing
Chapter22 -- DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEF!
Exeunt -- everyone finally gets some sleep
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)
Last year's failed novel started with a man walking in and finding his neighbor having anal sex with his wife on the living room floor, leading to death and dismay. This year's novel starts with a woman catching her husband having sex with the underage au pair on the kitchen floor leading to hilarious hijinks.
I think if I fall into a rut I will write a series of scenes involving people being interrupted during sexual congress; that's my favorite motif anyway. (I guess that one childhood incident involving an unfortunate Mother's Day weighs heavier on my imagination than I thought.)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)
(Suffice to say I think your current idea is more than fine, it is a classic example of, if I have the term spelled right, in medias res.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)
Right now I'm concerned because I have the main character high on cocaine and, having never done it myself, I have no idea how to describe the sensation. I figure I will get around this by talking massive amounts of shit.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 12 November 2004 07:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Friday, 12 November 2004 07:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 12 November 2004 07:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 12 November 2004 07:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Adamdrome Crankypants (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 12 November 2004 08:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 12 November 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 12 November 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 12 November 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)
I've been surprised by how easy writing becomes when you stop revising every word as you go along. In the past, I'd write 200 words and obsess about getting them to be perfect before I'd continue the story. At the minute I'm just breezing through the plot, albeit not at the rate to do 50,000 words in a month
― Greig (treefell), Friday, 12 November 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 12 November 2004 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)
That's pretty much the trick. Screw perfection, just get everything out and don't look back.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 12 November 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)
If it is not charming, it shan't amount to a pile of dust. I realize that attempting to be charming in the first person for upwards of 60,000 words is a perilous feat.
Oh well, if no one else reads it, my 80 year old mother will enjoy it, I'm sure.
― Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 18 November 2004 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 November 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Saturday, 20 November 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Daffyd, the only gay in the village (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 20 November 2004 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 20 November 2004 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Daffyd, the only gay in the village (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 20 November 2004 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Monday, 29 November 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 November 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 November 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 November 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 29 November 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Haibun (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)
Matt: you did indeed, and many thanks for your support.
Sarah: yes! Think of the children!
― Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 07:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)
Sarah, you can definitely do 14K in a day.
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)
For example: Think of an epithet for each of your characters, such as "rosy-fingered Dawn", "stout Achilles", or "Fingal, last of his tribe". Use it every time you refer to them, or when they refer to each other, as in:
Rosy-fingered Dawn fingered the handle of her bright blue and yellow coffee mug thoughtfully and said to voloptuous Sarah Jessica, "I can't believe that stout Achilles and green-eyed Hera are getting it on on my stunningly white couch this very moment. Eeeeeuuuuw!"
― Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)