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"I was personally shocked how casually young people treat oral sex and how it's considered much less intimate than intercourse," Couric told The Associated Press Tuesday.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/01/26/tv.katie.couric.special.ap/index.html.

ok well I wasn't getting any blowjobs when I was in junior high school but I was also pretty introverted and shy. But seriously, fuck, IS THERE NO OTHER SERIOUS NEWS to report? I refuse to believe more kids are having sex now than in, say 1968.

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

The whole article is sorta bizarre.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Where's LaTour to drop the science?

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost Not to mention prurient.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/01/26/tv.katie.couric.special.ap/story.couric.jpg

*snaggle-toothed HEEEHHEHEHHHH laugh* "Let's talk sex, kids!"

"Mom, can you make the nasty person go away?"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Couric became passionate about the subject after hearing "horror stories" of teens having sex at early ages

Oh, the horror! The sucking! Oh my God I can hardly take the sucking! And oh the fucking! Jesus God there's so much fucking going on! Oh and the exchange of fluids! The tender young bodies mashed together, sliding, sweaty, against one another! And then the release! The delicious release!

Oh, I'm done now. I just came.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i hate when all these ugly teens get more than i did when i was an ugly teen

Stevem On X (blueski), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Stevem cuts to the heart of the matter.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

After all the sex talk -- Couric learned "friends with benefits" refers to sex with friends without commitment --

What a scoop!

Magic City (ano ano), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I totally ant to watch this

Magic City (ano ano), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Katy Couric kinda makes me horny, in a really deprived kinda way. Or maybe I mean depraved?

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

This "OMG junior high kids having rampant oral sex OH NO!!!!" story has been a 'concern' for, like, what five years, at least? Wasn't there a Dateline or 20/20 thing about it awhile ago?

I saw Couric on the Daily SHow talking about this "There this thing called being 'friends with benefits'!" Honey, please come out from whatever rock you're living under.

haha, whoops, xpost

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Katy Couric kinda makes me horny, in a really deprived kinda way. Or maybe I mean depraved?

You and Dawson, man

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I always think these stories are weird, because everyone I knew growing up (and this goes today) considered oral sex more intimate than penetration.

You could have a drunken/one-time encounter with someone and hey no big deal as long as everyone's protected. But oral? That meant a connection, man.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

stevem OTM

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

to me this is more like progress.

shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw Couric on the Daily SHow talking about this "There this thing called being 'friends with benefits'!" Honey, please come out from whatever rock you're living under.

I know! She acted as though she was first person to discover this.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

someone will blame clinton

kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey Katie, there are these things called "dildoes"; you are one.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

So whose orifice is she often inserted in?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I was such a prude in junior high and high school. I totally missed out.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

On a lot of bad sex and humiliation, yes.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I still think that if more teenage girls learn to masturbate, all these numbers will change. Can someone please start teaching girls to masturbate? Please?

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

You rang?

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

You would make a kick-ass instructor, I'm certain.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

The Je4nne Fury Getting Off Guide for Teenage Girls

70 DVDs.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

the Je4nne Fury Institute Of Feminonanism Technological Advances

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

We all KNOW how to masturbate, it's not like a form of aeronautical science. The main thing was, at least in my school, was that we REFUSED to under the statement that if we wanted to get off, we could TOTALLY get a man so that was SO GROSS. Oh haha the cruel trick played when everyone realized that girls aren't actually going to have orgasms having sex with guys under the age of like 25 because they're so horrifically inept, ha ha ha. DID YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, KATIE COURIC?

Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh and as for blow jobs, again basing this on my school experience, the reason why that has "grown in popularity" instead of just, like, fucking seems to be entirely because of Jesus girls who are saving it for marriage. Because apparently it don't matter to Jesus about the mouth, the ass, or the hand. The vag though, INSTANT HELLFIRE.

Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I blame the internet, obviously.

Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Who knew that Jesus girls and priests had so much in common?

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Everyone with Italian or hispanic Catholic background. NEXT.

Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

You would make a kick-ass instructor, I'm certain.

I would. But to get serious for a second, I doubt any straight teenage girl would want jerk-off pointers from a lesbian. And that is unfortunate.

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw Couric on the Daily SHow talking about this "There this thing called being 'friends with benefits'!" Honey, please come out from whatever rock you're living under.

I know! She acted as though she was first person to discover this.

People forget that Katie Couric is actually 167 years old. When Katie was a little girl in ante bellum South Carolina, friends with benefits certainly didn't exist.

Ash (ashbyman), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

This is only going to accomplish exhibiting how old I am, but I still remember the episode of Gimme A Break where Samantha's dad got FURIOUS with her because "she kissed a guy, which means she's going to have a baby". WTF? I'm glad Nell was around to drop the science!

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

The Tootie Getting Obsessed With Jermaine Jackson episode of Facts Of Life was far more ingrained in reality, in comparison.

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG IS THAT TRUE? SHIT.

Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I've learned my lesson. I only get sex tips from watching Rerun on What's Happening!.

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I think we should tell kids that masturbation is actually a form of aeronautical science. The we should feed them saltpeter and make them limbo until they cry.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually lets just give them all pictures of Fred Berry doing The Rerun naked.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I find your ideas interesting and would like to read your literature [/jess

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Everything you said is OTM and applies to anyone under the age of 30, I think (I'm trying to combine Katie Couric's shocking expose with Time's shocking, mindblowing assertation that people under the age of 30 are more maturity-retarded than ever before)

(Is there anyone reading who wants to publish my scatching and amazing new report, "College Kids Fuck Around A Lot"?)

Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

And that is unfortunate.

Fools!

Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Ally, send it to the National Review and they'd take it seriously and start fretting. And I'd laugh.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

"College Kids Fuck Around A Lot"

Too late. That was the noticably saggy Tom Wolfe's last book. He was even more shocked and disoriented than Couric.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Wolfe should have called his book Never Been Pegged.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Can we start spreading the idea that young women won't get orgasms from any man under, say, 40? Or 44 even? And obviously much older than that and the man is no use, so about, say, 45 is clearly the perfect age for a lover.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"Women only get orgasms from Tony Randall--on the next Dateline"

Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, isn't Tony Randall dead????


HAW HAW WOMEN YOU ARE SOL UNLESS YOU LIKE TEH NECRO

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Didn't he finally die? NECROPHILIA NECESSARY FOR ORGASM.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, a beautiful xpost.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, that was scarier than usual.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Or it just shows we're reloading the sex thread of the day a lot.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.xenix.ch/archiv/01april/img/14234.jpg

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder which one of us we are?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

How much would I love to see KC do an "investigative report" on the latest sex toys?? VERY MUCH. Just to watch her lift a strand of anal beads for the camera would give me much joy.

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost
Dan is the evil one, i think. The one whose girlfriend has three vaginas.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually the report says Katie's new project is studying drugs. "Would you believe there's this thing called ECSTASY?"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually Dan noted it was scary while Ned devilishy smirked and went, "mmm, yes." Dan is cleary Beverly.

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Miccio just doesn't want me to have the three vaginas. Okay that doesn't sound right.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

You BOTH date the woman with three Uteruses (Uteri?). There is but one vagina.

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

That's easily my favorite Cronenberg movie, btw.

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

You BOTH date the woman with three Uteruses (Uteri?). There is but one vagina.

Actually we're kinda both wrong. She has three openings to her uterus. The movie is uncomfortably descriptive about the exact condition, and I've deliberately forgotten the details.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

How come it's all apparently blowjobs blowjobs blowjobs and that's cool but I spent MONTHS telling k*** I wanted to go down and SHE SAID SHE THOUGHT IT WAS GROSS?

Adolescence...
I just realized I can't think of a way to condemn adolescence now without a terrible pun becoming involved or some other kind of bad double entendre. There's just no way.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I spent MONTHS telling k*** I wanted to go down and SHE SAID SHE THOUGHT IT WAS GROSS?

Girl parts are as much as mystery to teenage girls as they are to teenage boys. And that's gotta stop!

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread is evidence that one should think twice before buying his or her kid a second-hand Mr. or Mrs. Potatohead with only lip parts.

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

How much would I love to see KC do an "investigative report" on the latest sex toys?? VERY MUCH. Just to watch her lift a strand of anal beads for the camera would give me much joy.

Well, we already know she'll take it in the ass on-camera for the old journalistic ideals.

Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"How come I spent months and months asking my boyfriend to let me fist him, but he kept saying it was gross??"

WTF is the mystery here? There are plenty of boys who aren't exactly fans of the oral either for christ's sake.

Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I spent MONTHS telling k*** I wanted to go down

I had that happen with 1st girlfriend! I had read, like, Nancy Friday and all these accounts from women desperate for men to go down, and I thought it sounded totally cool but even after we were otherwise fully sexually active it took weeks and weeks of persuasion. And then she started having orgasms and was like, "Oh, OK, you can do that."

Joycelyn Elders, your country needs you.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

There's not a mystery, I'm not like CONFOUNDED here. Just oh nevermind what stevem said again, it was funnier when he said it anyway.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Where's Karen Finley when you need her?

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Oooh, that reminds me.. I need to start boiling the yams.

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

...for who, DC?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Nell Carter, obv.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

DON'T, I DID THAT ONE TIME AND I NOW HAVE 3 BABIES.

Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Karen Finley and Judy Chicago presents The Yam Party starring Nell Carter and Wendy Jo Sperber.

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Nobody would ever lie about how much sex they're having. Especially teenagers. Especially to Katie Couric.

bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Special guest: Stockard Channing. (xpost)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

There's not a mystery, I'm not like CONFOUNDED here.

Well YOU'RE not. But if anyone thinks vaginas are gross, there's something they don't understand about them.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not about thinking vaginas are gross, for crying out loud.

Do guys really think that women don't understand their own fucking bodies? There is some mystery here that we're waiting to unlock? This is why like half of the women I know have "experimented" with women at some point in their life, isn't it?

Enthusiasm /= orgasms, though not that most of you would know. (insert scene from When Harry Met Sally that is always shown at this moment in humorous sex tv talk shows here)

Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

JE4NNE OR LUNA PLZ COME BACK

Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not about thinking vaginas are gross, for crying out loud.

Have you seen that latest commercial where girls are supposed to be worrying about "feminine odor"?

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish there was an ad showing a father and son walking down the beach in slow motion and soft focus where the son says, "Dad, do you ever have a problem feeling...fresh?"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

"You see, son, sometimes your penis smells bad..."

Never gonna happen.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Do guys really think that women don't understand their own fucking bodies?

"guys" != Kenan Heb3rt

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Round Two: The Price of F*E*M*M*E

A lot of girls I know laughed when they heard "Lady Love Your Cunt."

"Really?"

Yes. And they laughed even harder when they found out that there was a song on your new LP called "Oh! Ovary."

"Because they thought that words like 'cunt' weren't ours to reclaim?" asked a frowning Salv.

I think they just thought it sounded a bit silly. The general attitude was, "Have these people got any female friends?"

Ed scowls. "Well, instead of just laughing, they should have come and had a chat to us about it, after a gig or something."

I don't think they were all that bothered, actually.

Rob's laughing. "I knew you'd get stick for this, Ed!"

"Did you?"

"I'm glad he has," mutters Salv.

"An Asian girl came to see us once," continues Ed, "wearing a T-shirt she'd made herself that said, 'LADY LOVE YOUR CUNT.' She had a big pair of tits" -- yes, those are his exact words -- "with the word 'cunt' written across them. This is an Asian girl, walking the streets of North London! So it's obviously got through to some people!"

"But we've never considered ourselves part of some battle of the sexes," says Rob.

But those titles are so upfront, so attention-seeking.

"But they proved that we were doing things our way. Because, if you were thinking from a music biz point of view, you'd say, 'Don't call it THAT!'"

No, you'd say, "DO call it that!" "Lady Love" was your second single, it was never going to be a Top 10 hit -- using the word 'cunt' didn't hinder you at all, it just got you some free publicity.

Rob: "But words like 'cunt,' 'cock,' 'tit,' they're part of everyone's vocabulary. I don't think anyone's really offended."

It's certainly less offensive that deliberately using some word other than 'cunt' when 'cunt' is what you mean.

"I'm not carefully about swearing in front of my kids," says Rob.

"If you're shielded from it, you end up behind the bike sheds going, 'Cunt!' 'Shit!' 'Cunt!'" says Ed, bafflingly.

"When he was nine, my brother swore as much as he could," says Salv, "and now he never swears. So it might even turn you against swearing."

Right.

Ed: "We weren't just using the word for the sake of it. It's the title of a Germaine Greer essay so, if anything, we were using Germaine Greer."

So what's "Oh! Ovary" about then, Ed?

"Well, umm...I think it's a confused song."

Right.

"See, I always wanted to write a song with a girl's name in it, like all those Lou Reed songs -- "Candy Says," "Lisa Says" -- but I didn't know any transvestites like Lou Reed did. And what fucking name do you choose?"

So you chose "Ovary."

"Yeah. It's about contraception, too: I went out with this girl once, and we were using Durex, and I'm glad we did, cos otherwise there'd be a split family there now. And...umm...well, I think it's a confused song."

Salv: "There's a line, 'There's a great big hole in here where you used to be' -- it's like, we're the same, but we're different as well."

That's pretty confused.

Ed: "There's some gross bits, too: 'Ovary, I'm banging on your walls/Like hundreds of me before.'"

Salv: "Poetry, mate. Fucking poetry."

Rob: "What I like about Ed's lyrics is that you can interpret them any way you want."

Ed: "I was thinking about that Woody Allen film where he plays a sperm."

Right.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Enthusiasm /= orgasms, though not that most of you would know.

http://www.walgreens.com/dbimagecache/93713.gif

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahaha. That evening I spent transcribing that justifies itself perfectly. (xpost)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"Martha Stewart's Vagina" to thread.(2xpost)

Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

4xpost, then

Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

If MS Vagina shows up, I'm so out of here.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.microsoft.com/billgates/images/billbio.jpg

"Coming with our latest upgrade..."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I prefer open-source vagina.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Mmm.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Longhorn and MS Vagina.

"What a package."

Coming to an electronics outlet store near you.

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I always think these stories are weird, because everyone I knew growing up (and this goes today) considered oral sex more intimate than penetration.
You could have a drunken/one-time encounter with someone and hey no big deal as long as everyone's protected. But oral? That meant a connection, man.

-- milozauckerman (wooderso...), January 26th, 2005.

and once they get to doing rimjobs...its wedding bells, man.

Hello [on a cellphone], greetings, it's me, an outlaw, latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Vagina.NET will be the genitals of the future; scalable, distributable and capable of interfacing with a multitude.

(The original joke was especially for DC but I'm glad others enjoyed it.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

a bit off topic for a sec.. i hate how fred "rerun" berry says "HEY HEY HEY!" all the time nowadays when it was clearly the "dwayne" character that said it. wtf. ok proceed.

charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

He's dead now, so I guess he's stopped saying it.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Your search - zombie rerun - did not match any documents.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah haha i forgot he kicked the bucket! oh well he's still alive in my heart.. and now dwayne can get his catchphrase back!

charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

JE4NNE OR LUNA PLZ COME BACK

*Dons cape* I'm here!

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Me too!

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

He's dead now, so I guess he's stopped saying it.

HAW HAW WOMEN YOU ARE SOL UNLESS YOU LIKE TEH NECRO

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.msnbc.com/news/2049698.jpg

Phone sex from beyond the grave.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.younghollywoodhof.com/drina/haywood.jpg
"don't fret, pretty mamas. im still alive! (and im also a $cientologist! ;)"

charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Is he? Oh no.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

"Get me out of here, I'm a Clear celebrity!"

Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Luna, Je4nne, we should go get some drinks.

Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know where to start here, so I'll just um, pick one.

Girls masturbate. They do. How do I know? I did. I didn't know how, really, or what it was, but I recall reading some book a friend loaned me (no, not 'Forever', it was some horror thing) and it contained a description of masturbation and I thought hmm, I wonder what happens if *I* do that? Boy howdy. I haven't looked back.

How come it's all apparently blowjobs blowjobs blowjobs and that's cool but I spent MONTHS telling k*** I wanted to go down and SHE SAID SHE THOUGHT IT WAS GROSS?

Teenage girls are constantly told (in some fashion or other) that ooh, now you're growing up, and your body starts DOING STRANGE THINGS! And emitting SMELLS! And there's HAIR! And PERIODS! OOH OOH EW! It's natural to want to keep that shit under wraps. Also, with all the stuff happening, self consciousness kicks in, and you don't want anyone to see you NAKED OH MY GOD (even in gym class - did y'all take showers? cause we sure as hell didn't), so the very idea of boy (or girl, whatever) putting his face DOWN THERE so close to the very thing that's been giving you so much bullshit is scary and horrifying. It didn't help that there were endless 'tuna' jokes by teenage boys who, in retrospect, probably had as much of a shot at getting close to a real-by-god-vagina as I do of becoming Queen of New England. I was (as were most of my friends) completely embarrassed by any kind of bodily function whatsoever until I was older, and the first time a guy went down on me, I was cringing and hoping it was over fast (until it started to feel good, of course, then I was all yeah, BRING THAT SHIT ON).

I also recall having a pact with my friend Terrie that NO WAY ARE WE GIVING BLOWJOBS! BOYS PEE OUT OF THAT THING! NO WAY! YUCK! OH GOD! NO!
That lasted about 6 months. Never looked back there, either.

I have a feeling I have shared too much, but I've also had too much coffee, so I don't care.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

And yes, drinks please.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, Luna's got it. And yes, drinks gallore.

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

While consuming said drinks plz do so in a hot tub filled with bubble bath ok thx.

Obligatory Creepy ILX "Joke" (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

That would be like Cawfee Tawk from the fifth circle of hell. Awesome.

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.destinationhollywood.com/celebrities/billmurray/images/billmurray_caddyshack_02.jpg

"Bark like a dog for me"

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I would like to add, however, that AT NO POINT, did ANYONE (including my friends who had done it) tell me about male ejaculation and it's role in blowjobs. Possibly because we were embarrassed to talk about stuff, possibly because no one told them and they WOULD HAVE THEIR REVENGE by not telling those of us who hadn't done it. The boy didn't warn me he was gonna come, either.

I'm still a little angry.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

What did you think was going to happen?

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Confetti!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't have any idea whatsoever. I didn't really know what blowjobs were beyond the penis in the mouth (couldn't have been a lot of fun for him, but hey, he came, so I didn't feel that bad), so I had no idea what happened to signal the end of the fellatio.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Well the other thing is that it's not even necessarily the grossness factor after a while (I really can't describe the "gross" aspect for me here, but I will point out that if someone lets you fuck them/finger them then chances are they don't necesasrily think their own vagina is "gross" but rather the fact of HI WHERE'S YR HEAD OH THERE IT IS! is really fucking weird), like I've used the "grossness"/"uncomfortable" excuse a whole helluva lot longer than I really felt that way, because I, and I really think most women (especially the younger they are), have a difficulty with telling someone who is doing something nice for me, that they're not doing what I want them to do and JESUS FUCKING CHRIST STOP THAT AND DO THIS INSTEAD FOR FUCK'S SAKE I DON'T WANT ORAL EVERY GODDAMN TIME (until, of course, it gets to the point where I'm shouting something rude and unnecessary like that because I am so bored and frustrated).

That's like the key here to this issue I think! Men have this weird Playboy Stories centered belief that all women want oral 24/7, it is the mysterious key to the female orgasm and they must find it and unlock it and get the power up and save the wizard or whatever, and not only that, but also that there is this huge population of men who REFUSE to give oral, which in my experience is wholly untrue. The two things combined together (magic key + YOU ARE THE ONE, NEO) = a whooooole lot of enthusiasm that is pretty difficult to get the nerve to counter, because women are basically taught to be polite etc etc. So it takes a long time to get over that and just be willing to say, "OK, no, you're not doing that right, I want you to do that like this" or if they don't want the oral to just say "I don't want that, please stop drooling on my thighs and titfuck me". Combination of "must be polite" + "women should be demure about sexuality" = el fako orgasmo.

I am thankful I knew about ejaculation though beforehand. Actually foor some reason I found out about that really, really young and got into a big fight on the playground in like 5th grade with a boy, who was informing everyone that to get a woman pregnant you had to PEE ON HER, and I tried to explain how it really worked and like blew their minds somehow. Why PEE was a better explanation I'm still not sure about????

Oh and I have the bubble bath.

Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

The guy would just say, "Congratulations! You have completed your blowjob!"

x-post x3

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I see what you mean now, Ally.

It's not easy to admit that I may have been misinterpreting women's signals. This is why ILX girls are invaluable. My girlfriend sure doesn't say this stuff.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I know it sounds dumb now, but I really didn't know. Someone just left the end off the story. The nuns tried to teach us sex ed in 5th grade, but not one of those bitches EVER gave us a lesson in blowjobs.

DAMN YOU TO HELL, SISTER CLAIRE!

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Well you have to understand that usually copious amounts of fluid don't squirt suddenly out of the female anatomy during an average orgasm, so if you don't know that in advance, you'd probably expect something similar to your own experiences.

xpost I'm not even saying it's bad all the time, btw, or anything like that, I mean totally not true, it's just that sometimes you don't want it or you might be uncomfortable with it or the person just might not be doing it for you, and a lot of times it's a lot easier to come up with a bad excuse and/or just put up with it than it is to just say what you actually want the person to do. I won't say I've figured it out myself.

What's funny is that the whole men don't like to give head/all women constantly want oral myth seems to come out of erotica and porn, but I'd like to think that like 99% of the world has realized that the key to the mystery of the female orgasm isn't, like, coerced gang bangs or dog sex, so I'm not sure why the oral sex as THE ULTIMATE still persists. I mean, yeah, sometimes it is, but sometimes fried chicken is the ultimate meal and other times, well, it's gross.

Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

If a girl tells me "don't do that, do this," while we're getting down, I am not going to stop what we're doing to have a deep conversation about why she doesn't want me to do [x]. I'm going to get on whatever it is she likes and (excuse the pun) ride it like crazy.

Oh, and whoever thought it turns a girl on to jam your tongue in her ear should be punched in the face. A guy fellated my ear for an extended period of time and, as Allyzay pointed out, I was too shy to say to him "You are making me severely nauseous" especially because he was eating out my ear with such gusto. Instead, I tried to bring the face down to my tits because god knows I wasn't going to let him kiss me after his tongue was in my ear. EEW.

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Confetti!

That's only for Rip Taylor.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"I don't want that, please stop drooling on my thighs and titfuck me"

I would marry any woman who said this to me.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

These are difficult waters to navigate. It's hard to talk about the specifics of sex anytime with your partner (and hard to call him/her a 'partner' without laughing), and impossible when you're having sex. And for a guy, there's often this torn feeling of, "Well, I want to please her, but I don't want to sit softly on the edge of the bed and gently ask what she wants in a tone that suggests I'm her doctor or something, because that's not pleasing anybody." And so you stick with what you know, and it gets boring sometimes until you have this huge breakthrough, which happens every so often, and then it's all fun again.

Mystery. It's not a bad word for it, not for me.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, that's the thing though, right, like no one in the entire world is going to sit there and like get into some huge conversation with you if you just tell them "Not that, do this," they're gonna be like, awesome, person is into it, hot, whatever, but even though you KNOW that, you still feel like you might insult the person somehow.

Haha so instead post it on a googleable message board on the internet and exact sexually crippling revenge on any ex who chooses to google your name.

XPOST THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I GOT ENGAGED! HOW DID U KNOW?

Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

what a lucky couple.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Men have this weird Playboy Stories centered belief that all women want oral 24/7

Oddly enough, the Reserve/Protected Collection section I more or less oversee got in the latest Playboy today -- no I don't know why our section has the subscription -- and having just read that I decided to see if there's anything in there addressing this. And indeed 'The Playboy Advisor' answers a plaintive question from M.R. in Portland, Oregon about 'tips for eating pussy,' which the Advisor gladly dispenses, referring to She Comes First: The Thinking Man's Guide to Pleasuring a Woman by Ian Kerner. After eight detailed points, there's a final paranthetical: 'Every women, like every man, is different, so ask what she likes.' So now you know what's being taught. Apparently.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

The 'that' in the first sentence referring to Ally's comment rather than the collection of slick ads for internet gambling, cologne and bosoms that apparently make up the modern Playboy.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I am guilty, especially as a teenager, of thinking I was some super hot shit because I ate it. Of course, everybody did.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

You shouldn't be cranking it at work dude, so career foul.

I've seen that book before, and noting that it was written by someone named "Ian", I kind of wanted to kill someone.

Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Uh, not because he was named Ian, but because he was obviously a man, in case the dude I know named Ian reads this.

Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Now we move into the 'hasty followup post' of our thread.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

99% of the world has realized that the key to the mystery of the female orgasm isn't, like, coerced gang bangs or dog sex

you lie, surely

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

THE SECRET:

COERCED DOG GANG CUMSHOTS

TOTALLY SERIOUS

BUY MY BOOK, 8 STEPS TO ACHIEVING WHATEVER THE FUCK I JUST ACTUALLY TYPED TWO LINES AGO.

Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Words can't express how wonderful and carefree my life was before I read the phrase "COERCED DOG GANG CUMSHOTS". It was like every day was a sundae garnished with butterflies and innocence. I had such a pretty mind then; I WANT MY PRETTY MIND BACK.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

This is my mind now: http://members.shaw.ca/tyeshavik/urkel.jpg

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Ally, quit playing Keep-Away with Dan's mind.

Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Ally has stolen it to return it to Spock:

http://www.agonybooth.com/extras/trek/spocks_brain/spock_fez.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread reminds me of the guy who wrote Dan Savage to ask him how he could please convince his girlfriend to let him put his finger in her ass -- not, the guy assured Dan, because he wanted to, so much, as because he was sure she was missing out on the best sexual experience of her life. It was all about her, you see.

I don't remember what Dan told him. Probably to talk to her about it or something.

I wonder if any of Katie's teenagers talked about ass fingering?

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

"Mom, can we finger your ass?"

"Er."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

oh no! SPANKING VIDEO GAME! oh no!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

(Also you are so wrong for that joke, Ned Raggett! I applaud you!)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

How did I miss all this lubricious fun? Actually, I'm glad I didn't have to think about KC's ass being fingered by her kids during lunch.

Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

(Also you are so wrong for that joke, Ned Raggett! I applaud you!)

Hurrah!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, sexuality definitely seems tougher to deal with for young women then young men, but might I add a few points:

1) Until I was in my late teens or so, I had NO IDEA that women actually LIKE IT when you do things like feel/suck on their breasts.

2) Until I was maybe 20, I thought that there was no way any woman could get any enjoyment out of giving head -- I thought it was like this awful thing that they felt they had to do and I pretty much felt guilty about receiving it.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

"Mom, can we finger your ass?"

Katie is all about the colorectal health.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, I should have said, "a couple of points" -- two =\= a few.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

2) Until I was maybe 20, I thought that there was no way any woman could get any enjoyment out of giving head -- I thought it was like this awful thing that they felt they had to do and I pretty much felt guilty about receiving it.

i'm nearly 30 and i still feel this way.

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

It is not true.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 27 January 2005 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

YES IT IS.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 27 January 2005 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

(kidding, of course)

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 27 January 2005 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I do not receive it, and feel guilty about asking for it because it's been made clear that she doesn't want to do it, ever.

logged out to protect the innocent, Thursday, 27 January 2005 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Been there before, logged out.

Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 27 January 2005 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

re: the article

"These kids were carefully screened."

translation: "We made sure they catered to our 50s-era Puritan slant on the topic."

eman (eman), Thursday, 27 January 2005 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)

this thread is fucking ROYAL. Americans say the darndest things!

Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 27 January 2005 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

But but but we thought all Brits had stiff upper lips and talked about sex only using the word 'copulation.'

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

well "copulation," "knob" and "quim" but yeah

TOMBOT, Thursday, 27 January 2005 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone needs to send Katie the V!ce Guide to eating P!!ssy.

Pretend your tongue is the bad cop and the clit is the guy who killed your partner. Separate him from his buddies (the lips) and suck him right up into your mouth. Now he's on your turf. Keep him erect by creating an air-tight vacuum chamber in your mouth. Slap the little bugger upside the head with one big tongue bonk. He's not going to tell you shit because he's a clit and he has no idea what you're talking about, but kick his ass anyway.

S!monB!rch (Carey), Thursday, 27 January 2005 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

"here's a photo of Valerie Singleton fresh out of the convent"

"most-invigorating!"

Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 27 January 2005 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

vice stole that from music mole.

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Thursday, 27 January 2005 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Uh, not because he was named Ian, but because he was obviously a man, in case the dude I know named Ian reads this.

HI DERE.

I like sex and oral sex. They're fun ways to pass the time. Right up there with scrabble, a nice game of whist and drinking beer.

Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 27 January 2005 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahah I was thinking that too Jim!

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 27 January 2005 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Pears why is talking about the specifics of sex during sex impossible?? Surely that's the HOTTEST place to do it* (as well as the most practical!)*

*besides MESSAGE BOARDS on the INTERNETS obv

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 27 January 2005 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

If it's being done right, yes. If it's not getting you where you need to go, no.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 27 January 2005 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Pears I think I speak for everyone here by saying I am gagging for examples here. Gagging!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 27 January 2005 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)

they pre-empted L&O for this? Post-Orbach ratings must suck.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 January 2005 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a really hard time that poeple who probably teens in the 1970s are shocked that kids are "hooking up".

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 27 January 2005 03:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I really think most women (especially the younger they are), have a difficulty with telling someone who is doing something nice for me, that they're not doing what I want them to do

and it's really only about the woman involved, anyway. everyone knows that.

definitelynotgabbnebno (gabbneb), Thursday, 27 January 2005 03:13 (twenty-one years ago)

what is the point to 90% of your posts, again?

Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Thursday, 27 January 2005 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

So it's only 12% of teens who have oral sex? That is hardly an epidemic.

Ha ha and it's all Bill Clinton's fault?

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 27 January 2005 03:20 (twenty-one years ago)

So 7 out of 10 teens under 16 haven't done it? So what is the point of this show?

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 27 January 2005 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

so when will pedophilia be back en vogue again?
I gotta get me a sweet piece of this underage sluttery!

MY FAVOURITE LIGHTER IS CHEESEBURGER (trigonalmayhem), Thursday, 27 January 2005 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

When I kill you it will be delicious

TOMBOT, Thursday, 27 January 2005 04:34 (twenty-one years ago)

cannibalism is fun!

MY FAVOURITE LIGHTER IS CHEESEBURGER (trigonalmayhem), Thursday, 27 January 2005 04:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you have to keep making me think about your sweet piece?

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 27 January 2005 04:38 (twenty-one years ago)

witty!

TOMBOT, Thursday, 27 January 2005 04:38 (twenty-one years ago)

it's pretty awesome, I know

MY FAVOURITE LIGHTER IS CHEESEBURGER (trigonalmayhem), Thursday, 27 January 2005 04:39 (twenty-one years ago)

So 7 out of 10 teens under 16 haven't done it? So what is the point of this show?

yellow journalism?

eman (eman), Thursday, 27 January 2005 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)

They could have addressed how certain states are dealing with sexually active teenagers the same as they deal with violent rapists, like in Michigan both are required to register their names and addresses in Michigan's public register of dangerous sex criminals for 25 years.

I heard teens are getting sued even if no parents are pressing charges, ex: teachers are encouraged to break the confidence bond they have with students and denounce (or they may lose their job) and once an accusation is made , the state is on teh case.

I hope not many 17-year-old caught in a backseat with their 15-year-old partner didn't get into heavy drugs then killed themselves because of this law : apparently now they can petition to remove their name from the list. I don't know how it goes in other places, anyone knows about this "teenage sex offenders" & the sex offender registry thing?

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Thursday, 27 January 2005 05:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Sebastian, I hadn't heard of this practice before but am now absolutely horrified.

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 27 January 2005 05:01 (twenty-one years ago)

oh my god this show is so funny after just 13 minutes.

"those 2 DREADED WORDS: ORAL SEX!" coming up

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 27 January 2005 06:14 (twenty-one years ago)

extended five minute golf metaphor for "friends with benefits"

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 27 January 2005 06:29 (twenty-one years ago)

coming up: "BIG FINDING: KIDS NOT HAVING MUCH SEX AFTER ALL"

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 27 January 2005 06:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"We asked the children of eight producers on the show what base they'd gotten to"

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 27 January 2005 06:31 (twenty-one years ago)

has no-one mentioned Bryan's instant-classic post about 'the sound of your own voice as you ask if they could suck your balls'?

Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 27 January 2005 10:46 (twenty-one years ago)

what is the point to 90% of your posts, again?

you read 100% of my posts or a representative sub-sample? at that percentage, the common thread is probably passive-aggressive responses to the ambiguity of whether I'm disliked.

definitelynotgabbnebno (gabbneb), Thursday, 27 January 2005 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Pretend your tongue is the bad cop and the clit is the guy who killed your partner.

This is killing me right now.

Ash (ashbyman), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

They could have addressed how certain states are dealing with sexually active teenagers the same as they deal with violent rapists, like in Michigan both are required to register their names and addresses in Michigan's public register of dangerous sex criminals for 25 years.

Yeah, I'm willing to bet that's not quite the reality of the situation. Seeing as how the link you posted said the total number of juveniles on the offender list was 2000 and it only applies to people convicted of felony sexual conduct...

There's enough bad and stupid shit going on with American governments, we don't need to make things up.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 27 January 2005 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was quite funny that of the four kids who were big proponents of abstinence, three set off my gaydar and the other was constantly gyrating around in her bikini

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 27 January 2005 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I'm willing to bet that's not quite the reality of the situation. Seeing as how the link you posted said the total number of juveniles on the offender list was 2000 and it only applies to people convicted of felony sexual conduct...

? What do you mean by that? I'll hazard to add this link : sex registry may remove teen lovers in michigan but I'm curious if this practice goes on in other states, considering the new wave of puritanism in the US and all. It's not made up stuff, please, some people really get in trouble because of this "pro-christian" agenda vs indecency .

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Thursday, 27 January 2005 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

You didn't mention that he was legal and she wasn't, making it an age of consent issue. You made it sound like two 16-year-olds that have sex will both be slapped on a sex offenders list.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 27 January 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost

The kid got nailed for statutory rape in that link. Agree/disagree whatever with statutory rape and age of consent laws, but they exist all across the United States and (I venture) in every European nation.
This isn't "two fifteen-year olds [or two non-adults] had sex and were charged as sex offenders" this is "someone who is legally an adult had sex with someone who is not legally an adult [probably 16 in Michigan] and his/her parents chose to press charges," which is a major difference and shouldn't shock anyone.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 27 January 2005 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

milozauckerman, I mentionned that it was not necessary for a parent to presse charge and used a theoretical example.


You didn't mention that he was legal and she wasn't, making it an age of consent issue. You made it sound like two 16-year-olds that have sex will both be slapped on a sex offenders list.

ah ok, thank you for the precision: it was indeed my intention to talk about age of concent. I guess I disagree whatever with statutory rape and age of consent, and wanted to point out how inefficacious and unjust that law is to unfairly label as dangerous teens who have consensual sex. I think it's shocking that some teens were prejudiced and traumatized by the state eaven if "they had it coming".

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Friday, 28 January 2005 05:47 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost

gabbneb, i think you are too hard on yourself. allyzay does not worry if ilx will be interested in what people say to her while she is in the shower.

youn, Friday, 28 January 2005 05:56 (twenty-one years ago)


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