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the person who was supposed to train me refuses to train me.

i do not know who my supervisors are.

someone took my lunch from the refrigerator. the only person i know here's response was, "i don't know what to tell you." i called the temp agency and asked them if they could add $8 to my next check to account for this. if i actually knew my role here, or who i should report to, or anything like that, i would have simply mentioned it to the appropriate person and asked for some money from a "cash box" (if such a thing exists here).

i give this job one more week and then i'm out.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 31 January 2005 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Make sure you pee on everything right before you leave; give them something to remember you by.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 31 January 2005 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

what's your job title?

also, good luck getting some money to pay for your missing lunch.

Site Admistrator (deangulberry), Monday, 31 January 2005 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

or you could just do nothing, collect the pay, not put any more lunch in the fridge.

bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 31 January 2005 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

my entire day has been along these lines:

- some person who i'm lead to believe has some kind of authority over me says, "you need to fill out these forms. but first talk to [names of people i haven't been introduced to] about [name of form and/or procedure i have never heard of]."

- i respond with a few questions, such as "what is that form?", "where does that person sit and what do they do and what question should i ask them?"

- they respond, "i dunno. look, if you have some specific questions, send them by email. i'm busy with [procedure i've never heard of]."

- i send them a detailed email with questions, but do not receive a response.

- meanwhile, new employees keep coming by my desk asking such questions as, "when will i be placed in a cubicle?" "where is my new PC?" "aren't you supposed to help me get a badge?" "aren't you supposed to help me get a network ID?"

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 31 January 2005 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

power strike: my temp agency person was nice enough to offer to add some money to my check to cover the missing lunch.

i don't know my job title. something like "administrator." administrator to whom, and for what purpose, i'm still unclear.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 31 January 2005 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Steal all of the computers and lock them in a closet. When people complain, tell them that it is your job to protect the hardware from the dragon.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 31 January 2005 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

this all sounds like a very bad dream!

rainy (rainy), Monday, 31 January 2005 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

the guy in the cubicle next to me either does not respond when i say "hello" or "good morning" or responds in a way that suggests faint hostility. the only decorations in his cubicle are pictures of his two children and a calendar with dramatic early-dawn scenes of GIs jumping out of helicopters in some exotic locale.

there are no water coolers, no paintings on the walls, scarcely any natural light. the walls are painted dark blue. the only "entertainment" on offer are tvs broadcasting CNN at every corner, and, oh yes, "muffin day" on wednesdays (?!).

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 31 January 2005 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

on the upside, i doubt i will feel in the least guilty if i quit in the middle of a few projects. the only people who have been remotely kind to me don't seem directly effected by what i am supposed to be doing.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 31 January 2005 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

are you working for the CIA?

bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 31 January 2005 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

no, not the CIA, but it's a major utility company--so the bureaucracy is incredibly thick. this place is a refuge for dullards--people with little ambition, interests, or imagination. there are probably a few exceptions; i haven't met them.

the only person whose name is spoken of with any suggestion that they are "in charge" (and who i haven't met) is out of the office.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 31 January 2005 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Put Reynolds Wrap into everyone's CD drive and tell them that it's a "hardware optimization to decrypt and deflect incoming transmissions from rival companies".

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 31 January 2005 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

it's an office that serves other offices of the big utility company; i.e. no "customer support," no "client needs," etc. just a cog in the machine so to speak.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 31 January 2005 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

have you tried getting a job description / duties statement from HR?

bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 31 January 2005 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

new temp job for me in two weeks!

Kingfish MuffMiner 2049er (Kingfish), Monday, 31 January 2005 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

No water sucks, but TV and muffins aint so bad.

Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Monday, 31 January 2005 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Whenever someone asks you a question, cry.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 31 January 2005 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Amst has woken up inside Brazil OMG.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 31 January 2005 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Amst, are you working at S**?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 January 2005 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

no e****n

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 31 January 2005 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Go to work wearing a sombrero and throw coffe beans at people, shouting "HERE'S A PRESENT FROM JUAN VALDEZ!"

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 31 January 2005 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, ignore my e-mail then.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 January 2005 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Tell the temp agency you're not getting anywhere. Your rep should be on the 'phone to the company within minutes, and by the end of the day things will be some degree better.

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 31 January 2005 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

"some degree"

Today is not a talking day

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 31 January 2005 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

i'll wait about a week for that (say next monday?) but honestly if things continue like this until then i'll likely just quit.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 31 January 2005 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

OH SHIT YOU WORK FOR 3NR0N

Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Monday, 31 January 2005 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

haha

Site Admistrator (deangulberry), Monday, 31 January 2005 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

home at last. i almost fainted on the train from not having eaten all day.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Eat one of your coworkers. Their docile lifestyle should leave them relatively unspoilt.

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i really wonder what sort of office it is that someone would eat someone else's lunch!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Happened all the time at my last job. Why would anyone steal someone's lunch? It is insane.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, refrigerator shenanigans happen in every office.

Site Admistrator (deangulberry), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

DAEREST FATTEY,

Site Admistrator (deangulberry), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm going to spike the fresh mozarella with turpentine tomorrow.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

You get fresh mozarella? Like, real mozarella?!

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

"get"? i *buy*

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I had 4 cans of V on my night shift once and they all got drunk by someone else. So the next time round we set it up with X's on the bottom of each can. Sure enough one appeared on the desk of this goth dorkus maximus who worked in Support, and he flatly denied taking them and said it was his. Should've seen his face when we showed him the mark on the base. Pwnage central.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, shit! They stole your mozarella!? Gas bomb the fucking building.

Seriously.

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Awesome story Trayce. I love catching people in lies.

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i can't tell if you're making fun of me, andrew.

also: on the first day this guy (he isn't my "boss," i have no fucking idea who my "boss" is and suspect i don't have one) warned me not to leave my bag on my desk, or my phone on my desk. i know this is probably par for the course in big impersonal offices, but combined with the lunch theft it's really depressing. i've never worked in an environment before where i had to wonder if one of my coworkers was planning to *steal* something from me.

is this like your standard white collar office situation? if so, holy christ. and good riddance.

tomorrow i'll try being incredibly passive instead of running around trying to find the answers to questions that should be answered by someone training me, or giving me a list of my duties and the relevant contact people for each. i'll just sit quietly at my desk until someone either offers to train me. when people come up with requests, i'll say something like, "sorry, no one's trained me to do that yet."

i feel really mercenary at this point, since i'm only there for the money and am plotting to leave either at the end of this week or next. i really don't like this. it makes me feel really low and mean and i hate how i get all this negative energy. i feel really remote from the things that make me happy, or at least make me feel alive (even when they are sad things). i can only imagine what several decades of this kind of thing can do to a person.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

you know if you decided to come in there like a smiling bloodthirsty young gun go getter as some kind of brutalist theater project (audience: you) you could probably be running the joint within six months.

g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 04:40 (twenty-one years ago)

i think that's a nice fantasy (well, a horrifying fantasy, but a fantasy anyway)--i think this sort of bureaucracy tends to swallow everything up. anyway i'm a temp so i basically don't exist.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 04:42 (twenty-one years ago)

HEY GOOD MORNING EVERYONE WHAT'S THE WORD SPORT HEY WHAT THE FUCK DIDNT I ASK FOR THESE THINGS TO BE STACKED RIGHT TO LEFT? ALL RIGHT SWEET ITS NO BIGGIE OK I'LL MAKE MY ROUNDS hey like those shoes.

g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 04:44 (twenty-one years ago)

i mean, i'm basically not going to give a shit about any job i have for the next seven months, so i might as well not have one that's totally chaotic and aggravating and soul-sucking. i'd take a pay cut to go somewhere relatively relaxed and bright with relatively friendly people.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 04:44 (twenty-one years ago)

hell, i almost took up someone's offer to be a sushi chef-in-training the other evening.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)

i can't tell if you're making fun of me, andrew.

I'm genuinely not. I love mozarella. The thought of somebody taking it away from you makes me very upset on your behalf.

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I had a lot of stuff stolen by co-workers when I was a sushi chef. Still it's much better than office life.

Paul Eater (eater), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 05:01 (twenty-one years ago)

As long as you're not reviewing surveillance footage of yourself when you aren't at work, you should be ok.

57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 05:19 (twenty-one years ago)

whoa, like in "twin peaks: fire walk with me"????

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 05:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Or A Scanner Darkly perhaps?

when I was a sushi chef.

That's fantastic!

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 05:21 (twenty-one years ago)

is this like your standard white collar office situation? if so, holy christ. and good riddance.

I was told when I started my new job not to leave my bag on my desk, either -- that I should put it in a locked drawer instead. Supposedly it was a safeguard against anyone from the "outside" that might somehow get past the security guard at the front desk, gain access to the 5th floor without swiping an ID card in the elevator, and get past a door without punching in a four-digit code. Needless to say, I keep my bag on my desk all the time, and sometimes my phone and iPod, too.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 07:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, they gave me a key for that drawer but I lost it within a week.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 07:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been in my current job for four months now, and I still haven't found the keys to my office. Or my desk, for that matter.

I'm glad - in some ways - that I've always worked at small offices where it's possible for everybody to know everyone else - I like to think that it probably cuts down a lot on the amount of fridgewankery and other petty theft that goes on in larger places.

caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 08:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Amateurist, express your unease with the office environment by bringing in muffins on the wrong days!!!1!

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 12:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Take low-fat muffins!! Fuck your colleagues with nasty, dry, flavourless crap!!

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)

or bran muffins

sgs (sgs), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Bring muffins in on every day except Wednesday, when you bring in brioche instead.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)

"Muffin wednesday? I thought you said murder Wednesday. I trust this unfortunate incident won't remain on my record?"

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

being a sushi chef has to be about 10000x better than temping for a utility company.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, Am, that sounds shit.

I have a good job, really. And, we keep the fridge in the stationery cupboard and the key to the cupboard is behind my desk so nobody can steal MY lunch bwahahaha.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

lauren probably otm. (p.s. lauren, hi!)

i learned this morning that i work in what used to be the "Corporate Systems Information Services" offices of what used to be C*mEd.


"Corporate Systems Information Services"--just say it aloud.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i also learned that the head of the dep't has a master's in spanish and thus probably cries herself to sleep.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

hi!

will begging for another assignment help at all? seriously, how about learning how to make sushi?

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

the sushi guy is my friend's nominal boyfriend who she is planning to dump any day now, so that might be weird.

lauren are you on aim?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

What would happen if you just, like, didn't go? If no-one notices you're there anyway and you have nothing to do, why bother?

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Because somebody has to protect the computers from the damned dragon!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

because i want to get paid! it's not so chaotic that no one will notice if i'm out!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

la agonía

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

You should leave a laxative sandwich in the fridge.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

am . . . can't you report this to your temp agency? aren't they supposed to guard you (somewhat) against madness? the temp agency i used to work for was actually pretty good about communicating with their clients & myself.

kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i mentioned some of this to the temp agency but told my rep that i'd try to handle it this week, but would call her again if nothing was resolved by friday.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the Brazil comment upthread said it all.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

you are a more patient man than i.

kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

who, me? i am far from patient.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

can you take a book or magazine and just sit there reading all day?

colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i did that the first two days. but after a while i got sort of sucked in to going to lots of different people trying to figure out different parts of my job, and taking charge of my getting a badge, a network ID, etc., since no one else was taking charge of it and i was being tossed from person to person. so i ended up being busy without actually getting work done. today and tomorrow i plan on just sitting here wasting time until someone decides to train me.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm telling you. Do the booby-trapped sandwich thing and just keep your eye on the bathroom all day!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Temp work is a depressing, dreaded thing most of the time. Look at it this way: at least you have the luxury to waste time. At least they didn't stick you in a room with 2000 fliers and say, "We need all these folded, stuffed into envelopes, labelled, and stamped by the end of the day." That's a shit way to make $11 an hour, lemme tell ya.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

the only way to have the luxury to waste time is for me to decide i just don't care if nothing gets done because they're not sufficiently organized to train me... and to tell people who make requests of me, flatly that "i'm not trained for that yet."

it's a bit hard for me to take that attitude. i like to feel useful and competent.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

you could be calling random plastic surgeons to ask if they want to participate in a market research study & then being told to not laugh when one of the doctors you have to call is Dr. Sharp-knives & you're so squirrelly from doing nothing all day that you just *need* to have a good laugh but instead you have to make call quotas.

kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, his name is Dr. Sharp-knives?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

it's greek

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, wait e****n? In Chicago? What building?

I'm at p***i. After 3 months on this assignment I get a call from my agency: "Matt, did you ever do a drug screening?" Me: "Ummmmm...I'm putting in my 2 weeks today." My agency: "Ok great, but we still need you to come down and take the test."

I predict that there will be stems and seeds floating in my urine sample.

matttt (chachee), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

jaymc: yes

kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha! That sux!

xpost

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

But hey, tomorrow is MUFFIN DAY.

I suggest you save them from this week and next week lob them at your coworkers.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

this will be a jerky thing to say, but the whole "retribution against your coworkers" meme doesn't really appeal to me. for one thing, as humor, it's tired. for another, the problem here is not really with any individual being notably mean to me or notably incompetent. it's about a general culture of disorganization and dispiritedness. if it were just a stupid coworker or even a few stupid coworkers, it'd be easier to laugh it off. i look upon my coworkers not with (except on a few occasions) scorn but pity and (mostly) incomprehension. or maybe disbelief rather than incomprehension. in any event i won't be here very long.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

So just kill them already, jeeze.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

amst that's good to hear cuz i'm not sure exactly why you should be sure that your plight is much different from theirs.

aren't you in yer mid-20s? what exactly were you doing for 5-6 years to stay alive and out of an office, if you don't mind my asking?

i am wearing a white button-up w/ slacks as i type this. i am clean-shaven and cleanly cut and i have a job interview next week for a job i'm pretty sure i won't get and i think i'm going to a temp agency tomorrow. i need advice. [we already have a thread for that, yes. so what. i don't mean it as in "give me advice please ilx", just as a general thing, like in the smiths song.]

i am not supposed to be posting here sorry, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)

also i really don't see why disliking a job should have anything to do with wanting to "get back" or do mean things to your coworkers. i really don't see any reason to do mean things to people. it's a waste of energy. i'd just end up feeling bad. i know you guys were joking and all, but i sort of react to this vein of humor with a weary sigh.

i was working in france, in the film industry, for about a year. i came back and temped for a while, then went abroad again, then returned and spent a while completing numerous grad school applications. then i started looking for work again. now i have about seven months to get by doing random jobs until i go back to school.

i would apply for more "professional" jobs (i.e. jobs in a field i've worked in before, or would like to work in) but (a) i don't want to lie and say that i'm not planning to return to school in septmeber (which i would have to do to get any serious job) and (b) that would take an awful lot of groundwork simply for a seven-month job. i have applied for several teaching-oriented jobs but haven't had much luck. i'm still waiting to hear from a few.

i can't believe i'm explaining myself to an anonyme on the internet.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, i didn't answer your question. i've worked in offices before, just nothing of this order. my last few jobs have been at very small (10-15 employees) companies that were fairly congenial and cozy.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

hey, i'm prolly quite a bit less anonymous than, uh, you, f'rinstance, really. and i'm not asking you to "explain yourself". altho, if you wanted, you could start here:
"this place is a refuge for dullards--people with little ambition, interests, or imagination. there are probably a few exceptions; i haven't met them."

i just kind of resent the implication that everyone has or should have passion for their jobs or their careers, or should take a job for any reason other than because it's necessary to get by. and htat those that do are dullars w/ little interests or imagination. i mean tell that to the sexxy busgirl i saw while eating alone at steak n shake the other day, or to the waitress who served me coldly, robotically cuz she was sure this palescuzzy loner-type wasn't gonna be tipping. but i did tip her cuz i'm a nice guy and i recognize.

blurp, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

but that's what i meant about how it's nice to hear you don't think yer coworkers are worthy of scorn.

yep, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)

you're anonymous insofar as you aren't logging in as any user that i recognize.

well i have mixed feelings about the coworkers. it does seem like the kind of job you'd end up in, not because you haven't had advantages in life (as might be the case with someone working at the steak and shake) but because you have had advantages and didn't have the ambition or imagination to make much of them aside from a very baseline white-collar job.

but of course this is a specious overgeneralization and there are probably people there who came from less-privileged backgrounds and for whom landing a "professional" job is a big and hard-won achievement. (which is no less depressing in its own way, i guess).

actually i think the people from that sort of background tend to be slightly less resentful, or at least a little friendlier.

but that too might be conjecture.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

now i'm curious who you are! are you doomie or trife or ramosi or someone similarly legendary are you?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

also this is another generalization but the nature of the decorations in my coworkers' cubicles probably goes some way toward substantiating my generalizations. stuff like that standard-issue american-flag pullout from september 2001 with "we will never forget" written along the bottom. or the aforementioned "military actions in exotic locales" calendar.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

At least they didn't stick you in a room with 2000 fliers and say, "We need all these folded, stuffed into envelopes, labelled, and stamped by the end of the day."

I started temping recently and my first temp day was like that only it was 800 bottles of omega-3 fatty acids, some were placebo, that needed labeling. only before they could be labelled the number on the bottle had to be wiped off with acetone. by the last round of 200 the acetone fumes had me queasy as hell.

but the whole "retribution against your coworkers" meme doesn't really appeal to me.

fine, but what does that have to do with pwning a thief? last full-time job I worked had rampant lunch-stealing going on. sometimes they would even just take a bite or two and put it back. this sort of behavior needs a proper response that teaches a lesson imo (i.e. the booby-trapped lunch).

eman (eman), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)

btw people needn't have passion for their jobs but it's nice when people have a degree of detachment that expresses itself in humor or congeniality...even better if they have a sense of the ridiculousness of certain aspects of job...coupled with a basic willingness to help and a pride in their own competency. i haven't seen these qualities much in evidence at this place. with the exception of one single person, whose basic friendliness and competency seemed like a miracle in contrast to the general atmosphere.

xpost

i really am flabbergasted by the lunch stealing. i think that says all that needs to be said, really, about t he general atmosphere of unfriendliness and impersonality at this office. i can't even fathom anyone stealing my lunch at any other job i've had.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i should add that while my coworkers may not be worthy of scorn, i don't exactly have sympathy for them. and i will feel little regret quitting the job very soon.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i am hardly legendary i just got banned recently and so cannot log in. not that i would want to, if i could.

i am not sure if being legendary on an obscure internet message board is a very great or a very terrible thing but i am sure it's one or the other.

apologies if i put you on the defensive, it's just that that comment kinda grated w/ me. and i think you may've opened another can of worms (or perhaps smashed the same one wide open) w/ yr comments on ambition and privelege but i'll try to avoid that for now except by saying that i'd literally rather be living in a cardboard box than an ambitious accountant. i'm sorry for being such a filthy goddamn hippie, i really don't know what happened to me.

also just remember that the whole product of the environment thing needn't be limited to early childhood and adolescence. again i'm not there but common sense is gonna tell me that most of those dudes are victims not willing perpetrators of entropy or whatever.

whoot, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 03:44 (twenty-one years ago)

i didn't know anyone was banned! you must have done something awful!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

most of those dudes are victims not willing perpetrators of entropy or whatever.

yeah, that's my guess, as well. sorry if in my confusion i didn't convey that.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

are you doomie or trife or ramosi or someone similarly legendary are you?

No, it's John D. Just another message board dork like the rest of us.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 04:06 (twenty-one years ago)

terrifying things. they will not be spoken of here.

i think we just differ in that i think jobs are evil, and you don't. i also think the evil of a job correlates exponentially to the size of its salary, in many cases. probably most. i know this is a banal viewpoint, so if anyone can talk me out of it, do, but know in advance that you will likely earn only my hatred in trying.

i am sure there are nice jobs, i just haven't found any.

can't wait to start!, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)

andrew dude i was kinda trying to get away from the full name thing, i thought we'd reached an accord about that. i mean i'm behaving aren't i? this is ok isn't it? so can you like undo that please it'd be nice.

sick and tired, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 04:08 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost: oh yeah sorry about that.

i am sure there are nice jobs, i just haven't found any.

This is basically the crux of it, innit? I mean, I know there are good jobs out there. I've done some work in the past that I've truly enjoyed. I don't know how you can categorically state that "jobs are evil". I mean, what do you mean by evil? Immoral? As long as there has been human life there have been roles/occupations that people have fallen into (selected for themselves or through necessity), and I think it's a natural thing for us to do.

On that point, I think these days we actually have more choice in our occupations, which would (following this line of argument) make employment even less "evil" than it was back in the day when any one person would be forced to either hunt, raise kids, or prepare food, or whatever.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)

john d as in john darn1e11e???

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 04:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Noooooooooo!

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

John Darn13ll3 left of his own accord ages ago. This is John D4hl3m.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Johnny Depp?

xpost disappointment

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 04:22 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, i figured this wasn't john darnie11e. but i wasn't aware of there being a new "john d."

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

You don't post much on weekends, do you?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 04:50 (twenty-one years ago)

...things are much better today, thanks i think to some initiative i took...now i've been trained...and can relax more when i don't have work to do...

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm still not putting my lunch in the fridge though

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

p.s. jaymc what are your lunch plans?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

More importanly, do you get a muffin today?

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Thermo's laxative sandwich idea sounds mean but appealing.

Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't know where the muffins are! i think they're on another floor. i imagine them being moldly and crumbly.

i was wondering if, just to make things interesting, i should arbitrarily decide that my somewhat surly coworker (the one who sits in the cubicle next to me) was the one who stole my lunch, and allow resentment to collect accordingly.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

What's the point if you're not going to properly funnel those emotions into executing a comprehensive retribution plan.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i just had a confrontation with one of my coworkers. in short, he accused me of being lazy for no good reason. in the past few days, he has found four or five opportunities to offer me such pearls of wisdom as:

"you're the lowest on the totem pole here, buddy!"

"you take orders from everyone!"

"we're all your boss!"


finally when he yapped at me today i accused him of being patronizing and asked him not to use the same tone with me again.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 3 February 2005 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i really hate confrontations, though. i feel really shitty afterward, even if i was in the right. i'm still sort of shaking.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 3 February 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think i'm really cut out for an office job.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 3 February 2005 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

"this company will eat your lunch, bro." Seriously, that's probably the guy who got it the first day.

Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 3 February 2005 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

he's like 50 years old. at first i think he was just "ribbing" me, but eventually it was fairly annoying. he was obviously, at some perhaps subconscious level, trying to irk me by constantly "reminding" me of my position. but it really only served to make me think he's an asshole.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 3 February 2005 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Hi Amateurist, sorry I didn't see your lunch request until just now. I had lunch with two of my bandmates yesterday, though (including the new guitarist). How's next week sometime?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 February 2005 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

the weirdest thing about this office: people sitting in nearly-adjacent cubicles who email me requests about each other but don't even know each other!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 4 February 2005 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Action Required: Please review for business impact.
Recommendation: Delete upon reading.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 4 February 2005 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

who in hell uses the word "onboarding"?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 4 February 2005 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

has anybody asked to "touch base" with you about anything yet? fucking office-speak..

eman (eman), Friday, 4 February 2005 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

no, but i was told to "make it happen"!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 4 February 2005 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

oft-used buzzwords/phrases at my shitty office:

"carry the ball" which is obviously interchangeable with "dropping the ball"
"action items"
"upward trajectory"
"emplanement" (to board a plane...really)
"empowerment"
"continuous improvement"
the e- prefix as in e-mail
and of course some conjugation of "shifting the paradigm"

I had a one man buzzword bingo session with myself that came to an abrupt halt one day when I got an email that included the sentence "all action item procedures must meet our deliverable expectations for our e-business sector in this fiscal quarter". That email alone made me complete my card. Unfortunately the boredom was catching up to me, so in my bingo winning fervor, I did a mock touchdown dance, slipped and fell on my chair leg and resultingly knocked over an adjacent cube wall. That was the end of buzzword bingo.

matttt (chachee), Friday, 4 February 2005 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

this one fuckwad just forwards me all these elaborate and incomprehensible strings of emails and writes simply "make it happen!" or "please assist" at the top. i have to spend 30 minutes calling around to figure out what the fuck he wants me to assist with.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 4 February 2005 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

do you have to order lunch for people in meetings? that's probably my all-time least favorite temp duty. at least with stuffing envelopes, you can usually just put on headphones and do your thing for 8 hours.

matttt (chachee), Friday, 4 February 2005 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, and it was aforementioned fuckwad who ordered me to get the lunch. there's a story about fuckwad attached to that, but it's boring.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 4 February 2005 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

suffice to say that aside from showing a lack of respect for me (funny enough, he's younger than me), he showed a severe lack of respect for the pizza delivery guy.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 4 February 2005 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

My adjacent fuckwad is actually kinda cool in an abrasive alcoholic kind of way. One day, I overheard a story:

"So about 6 years ago, I found out my ex-wife killed herself. Now I didn't know about it because I was away on business. So I get home and I see 2 cops standing out in front of my place. They told me the news that she drove her car off a bridge. See, at this point the cops asked me what I was doing the night she disappeared. I gave them my alibi, they called my office, and I was cleared."

He starts laughing with a 50 year old alcoholic laugh anyone who's gone to a bar will recognize.

"They thought I fucking killed her! I mean, I may have hated the bitch, but that's why I didn't pay her alimony! AHAHAHA"

matttt (chachee), Friday, 4 February 2005 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

ok that beats any story i could tell

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 4 February 2005 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah he's like a vp of something or something too. i saw his salary. he makes like 225,000 a year. how come when i was in college, we all made fun of how dumb the business kids were. now, in "the real world" these same dumbass fratboys who couldnt form a coherent sentence all make six figure salaries.

i'm SO glad i have one week left before my real job starts. fuck temping.

matttt (chachee), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

what do you want with a six-figure salary though? who gives a fuck?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah that's a good question. in some of my more bored moments, i like to fantasize about what i'd do if i ever had that much money. the best i could ever come up with was making an opium den out of my apartment complete with a bunch of red lighting, pillows, and old-timey couches.

matttt (chachee), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

what do you want with a temp job, am? :) (xp)

Site Admistrator (deangulberry), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

You could start by getting a house.

xpost

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

An opium house?

matttt (chachee), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

opium house is so 1992.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

the grumpy guy sitting next to me turns about to be reasonably nice, if taciturn. the fuckwad i mentioned earlier is still a fuckwad. i think it's partly because he's young.

i had at least two tense interactions between coworkers today.

one concluded along these lines (i'll spare you the buildup):

him: help desk won't help me unless i give them my employer ID.
me: strange. i've called a few times and just gave them my name and they helped me.
him: no.
me: er... no what?
him: no, they won't do that.
me: um, well...
him: it's a policy.
me: it probably is, but whoever i've spoken to let me get help without--
him (cutting me off): no, they can't do that. it's a policy.
me: from the past day? i just spoke to them the other day and just gave them my name.
him: no, the past month, they won't let you do that.
me: but they--
him: no.
me: but I--
him: no, they won't.
me: maybe you got a guy who was really a stickler. maybe you can call back, because I--
him: no, they can't do that.
me (totally flustered): what? what are you arguing about? i'm just telling you what happened to me. i got through without giving my employee ID!
him: hm....

His posture and somnabulant (sp??) attitude reminds me of the obese guy from "The Office." The whole conversation he was leaning listlessly on someone's cubicle wall staring off into space.

God, I'm even boring myself. Well, three more days.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

continuing the "office" comparison, i felt very "tim" during that conversation, reacting in disbelief and mild alarm to the obtuseness of my coworker.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 03:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i quit!

i'm not even going to think about this anymore.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 10 February 2005 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Not even long enough to tell us what happened?

Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Friday, 11 February 2005 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

what happened: i quit!

actually, the funny twist is that i called the temp agency to tell them i'd be quitting, and when the person from the temp agency called the company, they couldn't figure out who they needed to tell! in fact, they still haven't figured it out. but that's a long story and, again, i'm not even going to think about this anymore.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 11 February 2005 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)

well, one thing: i think the last straw, really, was aforementioned fuckwad (whose previous job, it turns out, was working for ha1iburton in kuwait) asking me to CANCEL A DINNER DATE so i could stay late and pick up a pizza for his evening training session.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 11 February 2005 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

YIKES! I didn't see this until now. Sorry, amateur1st. My temping jobs I did after moving here were all pretty tolerable. Crazy.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)

What a crappy experience. Bad luck

beanz (beanz), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Do not read if you hate me specifically or whiny middle-class white girls in general.

Yesterday I did a temp job that in theory I should have loved. However, I've done previous temp work for The Washington Post before, and my feelings--love and hate--for this company are more intense than any sentiment I've ever had toward another person. At the worksite yesterday I was so anxious I kept getting hiccups.

I wouldn't have taken the Post assignment, except that I hadn't had any work for the previous several days. And the terms of this assignment left a lot to be desired. Only one day a week? That won't pay much of my mortgage.

So today I get home from a interview for a regular job. (I wouldn't be terribly excited about this possibility--working for a government contractor at Gonzalez' Department of Justice--but they said that the person they hire will get a security clearance as part of the job, which is catnip to me and many Washington-area employers.) There's a message on my answering machine from my temp agency employer, something vague about the job I did yesterday. And when I got this message it was too late to return the call; the agency is closed for the evening.

I strongly suspect the call is to tell me that the Post does not want me back next week. But I won't know for sure until Monday morning, when the agency is open again. Hell of a thing to have hanging over my weekend! And while the idea of this assignment being canceled appeals somewhat, I'm also assuming that I was a disappointment, which further turns up my anxiety.

My only notion of what to do until Monday to cope with these worries is to go get drunk. Anyone have any less dysfunctional recommendations on how to cope right now?

j.lu (j.lu), Saturday, 12 February 2005 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Did anybody ever see that movie Clockwatchers?

La Monte (La Monte), Saturday, 12 February 2005 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

j.lu, i once was told that a temp position "would not be continuing," but it was kind of funny, because i was going to leave that week anyway. i think maybe subconsciously i was doing stuff--coming in late, taking long lunches, etc.--to get myself kicked out. i have a small pattern of such occurences--once in junior high i was given a two-day suspension which fell on days i was taking off anyway.

i was sort of manic about the whole job-quitting thing -- feeling simultanteously the burning need to extract myself from the situation, guilt over quitting a job in a precarious financial position, and guilt over leaving a little bit of work undone and my desk a bit of a mess--until i sat down and wrote a few pages of notes about the job that i hope will help whoever ends up replacing me, and make it less confusing and frustrating for them than it was for me.

in happy news, the day after i quit the job, i got two offers for much more bearable part-time work, which together will add up to more $$$ per week than my temp position. AND, i get most weekdays off. so maybe i can find somewhere to volunteer as well.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 12 February 2005 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

in slightly less happy news, i asked my ex to dinner tonight, and i think she already had plans with another boy. oh well.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 12 February 2005 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

So I have this contract job, the terms of which were initially like "at least three months", and they were kind of "maybe it will be longer, we don't know yet, blah blah" when I got it. Almost immediately after getting this job, my wife was diagnosed with breast cancer. When I told them, they were "oh my god, anything you need, let us know". I'm about halfway through this job (which is really a 'contract' job, 1099-based, no agency involved) and my wife is going to be starting treatment soon, my son is going to be starting preschool, and I need to find out if I am going to have a job in another month or what. Should I just ask them? (obviously you are all going to say yes).

akm, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 17:24 (sixteen years ago)

further complicating: I have an interview for a contract-to-hire job tomorrow, I've gone through three rounds of phone screens, I think I can probably get that job if I really want it, but I haven't told them about the cancer or the kid thing (the issue being that I'm going to have to be at his preschool one morning a week because it is a co-op, and also will have to take him there every day, most likely, for the next 20 weeks while my wife is on chemo). At what point do I bring this shit up? I don't want them to rule me out as a candidate because of this stuff, on the other hand, I don't want to get the job and be all, "SURPRISE! MY PERSONAL LIFE IS INSANE!"

akm, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 17:27 (sixteen years ago)

They don't need to know anything about your personal life until you have been offered the job. When they offer it, you should then bring up everything that is going on that will impact your schedule. And yeah you should just ask what's up at your current contract.

I'm sorry for all the stress you're being hit with and hope everything goes well with your wife's treatment, with the best possible outcome. Good luck with all of it.

Jaq, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 17:36 (sixteen years ago)


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