Amazon Prime (not the leader of the Autobots nor an incredible simulation)

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Pay $79 to get free 2-day shipping all year! Er. (Do people need their Amazon orders that quickly?)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 February 2005 18:59 (nineteen years ago) link

My adblocker has been blocking the Prime ad, so I haven't seen what it's all about. Is that all? I will be cheap and stick to the Super Saver.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 7 February 2005 19:04 (nineteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
Revive this mostly dead thread to note they offered it to me randomly tonight as a three-month trial deal, so what the hell. (I mostly order used CDs through other sellers anyway.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 February 2006 04:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I took the same trial deal. Came in handy at Christmas, and with 2-day they were as good as their word. But $79/year? No thanks.

Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Friday, 3 February 2006 04:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Ditto. Since it's likely we were all offered it at about the same time, someone needs to bump this thread when the three months are nearly over as a heads' up.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 3 February 2006 04:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Amazon sez they'll send you a "trial expiration" warning when that date approaches, but I'm a little dubious.

Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Friday, 3 February 2006 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

So how much would have to order for this to be economically sound?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 3 February 2006 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Since it's likely we were all offered it at about the same time, someone needs to bump this thread when the three months are nearly over as a heads' up.

In the spirit of public service, consider thread bumped.

I received an email notice this morning that my trial of Prime would expire in one month (3/20).

Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link

four years pass...

I had trial a long time ago and for some reason they decided to offer the trial to me again, I guess it's because I haven't bought something from them for almost a year

pokám0n (dyao), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

i bit the bullet and signed up the other day for the trial membership. aaaaaaaand will cancel before the month is up.

will i ask myself questions and them answer them in order to tell the dull story of why i'm canceling?
yes i will.

am i happy with the free 2-day shipping?
oh fart yeah!

did i look up the number of amazon purchases i made over the last year, define it as X, and then divide $80 by X to see how much I'll really pay for 2-day shipping per order over the course of an average year, for example, if someone made 40 orders in a year and then sign up for an $80 amazon prime membership they're pretty paying $2 per 2-day shipping per order?
Why yes i did, and i was pleased with the figure.

was i pleasantly surprised that i could extend the membership benefits for free to others in my household, specifically my beyonce?
i was, i had no idea.

was i bummed today when i got home and realized that the 2-day shipping is UPS, and UPS leaves the package at the door and requires a signature at the time of delivery, and they pretty much only deliver when i'm not home (before 5pm, M-F only), and to take this a bit further i'm not sure how in the world anyone could ever accept the package unless they didn't have a job, and now i have to drive 30 minutes away and then stand in the worst-fucking-line-in-the-tri-county area notorious UPS line for another 30 minutes to get my package, and this will happen everytime i order from amazon now, pretty much?
YES, pretty bummed about it

is the run-on answer your own question format acceptable to others?
no, probably not, sorry

23 24 (Z S), Friday, 21 January 2011 02:33 (thirteen years ago) link

lol.

considering I made 129 orders last year, and that I'd guess at least 70 of them I used Prime for,.....I probably paid for my Prime at least ten or more times over

i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Friday, 21 January 2011 02:34 (thirteen years ago) link

also re: UPS I'm having that problem now too, cuz in our area they've stopped 'leaving' packages due to recent thefts, I have to have them all sent to work. you can also sign the little slip on the door, and when they try to deliver the next day they'll leave it.

i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Friday, 21 January 2011 02:35 (thirteen years ago) link

btw regging multiple email accounts for Prime works if you have more than one credit card. I did it.

i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Friday, 21 January 2011 02:36 (thirteen years ago) link

can't have them sent to work, unfortunately.

and the little slip on the door has option B checked ("The sender required a signature at the time of delivery"), as opposed to option A ("Your written authorization is required to leave packages"), which means I can't just sign it and get it the next day.

:-/

23 24 (Z S), Friday, 21 January 2011 02:37 (thirteen years ago) link

really? that's bizarre, Amazon doesn't generally send signature guaranteed. did you buy a lazer beam or something

i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Friday, 21 January 2011 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link

question: is there any way to contact amazon and/or UPS and let them know that it's cool to just leave it at the door in the future (option A)?

23 24 (Z S), Friday, 21 January 2011 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link

do they sell anything else? xpost

23 24 (Z S), Friday, 21 January 2011 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link

FedEx once refused to leave "Wire Season 3" at my door because they marked "dangerous materials" on teh slip

i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Friday, 21 January 2011 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link

it's worth emailing them to check...dunno that anything will come of it, but they could at least explain why that particular item was sent that way.

up until a week ago, all of my shit was left for me, which is good cuz I work M-F. now that they're pulling the 'have to be home' shit I have to use work which sucks cuz they misplace stuff sometimes

i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Friday, 21 January 2011 02:40 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

there is now a streamin gvidoe app for Wii! Goodbye netflix!

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Monday, 11 February 2013 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

This is the best!

polyphonic, Sunday, 28 July 2013 06:35 (ten years ago) link

Noticed a bunch of good older movies got added to Amazon Prime recently, including North by Northwest & Days of Heaven.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 28 July 2013 07:23 (ten years ago) link

Dark City, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, Hud

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 28 July 2013 07:25 (ten years ago) link

Dark City with Charlton Heston?

Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 July 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link

the only reason I kept Netflix after Prime added videos is that they don't seem to have EVERYTHING I want, so I feel like I need both :/.

still, tho, Prime is great cuz I order like 300+ things a year, so the savings are immense. except now they're using 'cheap' tactics like using shitty local couriers to deliver shit. who often fuck things up.

Neanderthal, Sunday, 28 July 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link

One thing that's nice about the streaming selection is that the films are in their correct letterbox in many (all?) cases, unlike Netflix. and they have a lot of the stuff that Netflix has. And the quality of the stream was way better.

If there's a movie they don't have streaming you can use their app to stream a rental version, although you can't make the purchase in-app... only access your amazon library. But it's nice to have the option.

polyphonic, Sunday, 28 July 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link

i used to have this

markers, Sunday, 28 July 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link

it's cool & if i had more money i'd have it now

markers, Sunday, 28 July 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link

I buy so much heavy stuff from Amazon - 50 lbs of cast iron kettlebells, 8'x6' bamboo fencing, flats of canned tomatoes and tuna and coconut milk, cases of coconut water, raised bed garden kit, wheelbarrow, etc - that yearly charge for Prime is well worth it even if we didn't use the streaming.

Jaq, Sunday, 28 July 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

I still love Prime, and it's still more than worth the money, but as expected, they're starting to penny pinch and use cheaper means of shipping...as a result, their 'guaranteed two day delivery' is turning into three and on rare occasions, four because of using things like FedEx Smartpost. Which ok, w/e for the most part, but the last three new releases I ordered, that were supposed to be 'guaranteed to be received on release date' according to the email, have been a day late.

Yeah, first world problems, I know, but if you're going to advertise something, probably best not to keep not delivering it. complained, hopefully I get $2 towards a future mp3 purchase.

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link

i watch heaps of stuff on prime, and we milk their shipping every year come Christmas time, more than pays for itself.

love it

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:06 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

http://www.amazon.com/b?ref_=tsm_1_tw_s_amzn_mx3eqp&node=8037720011

What the fuck

乒乓, Monday, 2 December 2013 01:44 (ten years ago) link

Amazon Drone

:D

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 December 2013 01:45 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98BIu9dpwHU

乒乓, Monday, 2 December 2013 01:45 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/FT03DGb.jpg

乒乓, Monday, 2 December 2013 01:46 (ten years ago) link

I'm shorting Amazon right now. Somebody give me their Amazon shares. I'll have them back to you by Tuesday

乒乓, Monday, 2 December 2013 01:47 (ten years ago) link

will i be able to recoup my investment in a gun

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 01:47 (ten years ago) link

and can u buy guns on amazon

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 01:47 (ten years ago) link

i want to order an rc helicopter just bcz it would make me lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 December 2013 01:49 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/VAzdZBT.png

乒乓, Monday, 2 December 2013 01:50 (ten years ago) link

Think the thread title will need to be changed soon

乒乓, Monday, 2 December 2013 01:50 (ten years ago) link

srsly think how amazing it would be to shoot one of these suckers out if the sky and take its bounty

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 01:52 (ten years ago) link

Amazon Prime (applying to be the leader of the Autobots)

zanarkand bozo (abanana), Monday, 2 December 2013 01:53 (ten years ago) link

Best part is when you emerge from the field victoriously clutching your Amazon Prime Air package and you open it and it's just a wine bottle opener

乒乓, Monday, 2 December 2013 01:56 (ten years ago) link

my favorite corkscrew

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 01:58 (ten years ago) link

no corkscrew is sweeter than the one you killed yourself

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 01:58 (ten years ago) link

lol bezos talking drones and doing custom development for the cia in the same segment http://gigaom.com/2013/12/01/amazon-drones-were-not-the-biggest-surprise-from-jeff-bezos-on-60-minutes

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 02:02 (ten years ago) link

You give me some of your tech I'll give you some of mine

乒乓, Monday, 2 December 2013 02:04 (ten years ago) link

Bezos is a clown from the future laughing at us all

I can't keep up, I can't keep up, I can't keep up (calstars), Monday, 2 December 2013 02:53 (ten years ago) link

I feel cheated that this is the "living in the future" we get, over jet packs or even food pills ffs

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 December 2013 02:58 (ten years ago) link

computers that fit in our pockets delivered by tiny helicopters

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 03:01 (ten years ago) link

I was surprised to learn that Amazon and the USPS make the same amount of money each year. I wasn't quite sure which aspect of that factoid was most surprising, though.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 December 2013 03:06 (ten years ago) link

xpost Drones should drop cans of that stuff on Afghan villagers.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 December 2013 03:07 (ten years ago) link

Though it would mean upping our apologies.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 December 2013 03:07 (ten years ago) link

I was just thinking that this technology is the best available candidate for an iatee-type USPS-free future. People living in rural mountains will get everything airdropped to them, all the vitals. Like canned goods, bottled water, scented candles

乒乓, Monday, 2 December 2013 03:10 (ten years ago) link

tea cosies

lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Monday, 2 December 2013 03:14 (ten years ago) link

lavender drawer thingies

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 December 2013 03:28 (ten years ago) link

butter churns

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 December 2013 03:29 (ten years ago) link

electric butter churn dang we rly are ~living the future~

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 December 2013 04:17 (ten years ago) link

What mad universe is this?

Skatalite of Dub (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 December 2013 04:19 (ten years ago) link

lol the guy behind the terrible unfunny @AmazonDrone account revealed to be that reuters social media editor who got busted for helping anonymous hack into his work https://twitter.com/AmazonDrone/status/407982708120227840

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 23:45 (ten years ago) link

seven months pass...

Tl;dr

Is there any difference between AP and netflix/hulu/hbogo troika?

Bringing the mosh (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 04:07 (nine years ago) link

there are things on prime that aren't on any of those

also, no ads, if that bothers you about hulu or hulu plus

i don't know what hbogo's quality is like, but the hbo shows on prime are not great looking

j., Tuesday, 8 July 2014 04:12 (nine years ago) link

I get a better picture with AP than Netflix on their shared properties, since Uverse is still in a pissing match with them over CDNs.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 04:24 (nine years ago) link

since i upgraded my outdated os to snow leopard, so that i could run a fairly new firefox, i've had a lot of visual artifacts on microsoft silverlight (which prime uses) that i didn't get before. i know netflix uses silverlight too, but its player has always seemed more advanced.

j., Tuesday, 8 July 2014 04:30 (nine years ago) link

Ah, yeah, I don't know anything about using them via computer - I have a Fire TV downstairs and a Roku 3 upstairs.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 05:03 (nine years ago) link

A huge library of thousands of CDs is the difference...

heavy on their trademark ballads (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 05:34 (nine years ago) link

nedflix

j., Tuesday, 8 July 2014 05:45 (nine years ago) link

Roku 2 is my main streaming box (supposedly the difference between it and 3 is negligible), but the stuff I stream from Amazon Prime is far worse in quality than the stuff I stream from Netflix and Hulu Plus.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 12:20 (nine years ago) link

nine months pass...

Anybody else get the Amazon Echo? It's really neat, but limited at this point. If they ever open it up and release an API, it could be very useful.

Jeff, Thursday, 9 April 2015 14:23 (nine years ago) link

I had it preordered but read a few reviews of it being mediocre at voice recognition across the room, and I already have a few bluetooth speakers

mh, Thursday, 9 April 2015 14:25 (nine years ago) link

My experience has been the opposite. I can stand in my kitchen, about 30 or so feet from the speaker in the living room, talk in a slightly louder than normal voice and it works perfectly. I think once I move it to a central location it will work even better.

Jeff, Thursday, 9 April 2015 14:27 (nine years ago) link

And from the kitchen, my voice is carrying down a hallway and around a corner to where it is setup.

Jeff, Thursday, 9 April 2015 14:28 (nine years ago) link

I use it as my alarm clock in the morning. It's very satisfying to scold it when I turn off the alarm by saying, "ALEXA STOP".

Jeff, Thursday, 9 April 2015 14:40 (nine years ago) link

you know, I enabled that "listen for commands" thing on iPhone that works when it's connected to power but never have attempted to stop the alarm with it

when I first wake my voice is a weird croak, though

mh, Thursday, 9 April 2015 14:42 (nine years ago) link

i'm curious about echo, but not enough to buy one yet. i wish there was a way to do a trial for a week or something. i don't really have a "connected" house - the lightswitches are practically from the 1920s, i have radiator heat, a crappy window unit AC in the summer, and i don't (even) have a tv let alone a fancy entertainment system, so i wouldn't be able to take advantage of what echo can do with controlling household appliances.

how heavy is it? my cat is one of those assholes who knocks EVERYTHING over within 10 seconds of seeing it.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 9 April 2015 14:56 (nine years ago) link

lol we don't have a connected house either although we do have a TV. I didn't even know it could control household appliances.

So far, for us it's a good sounding bluetooth speaker that will tell you the weather when you ask it but I agree with Jeff that there's a lot of interesting potential there.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Thursday, 9 April 2015 15:01 (nine years ago) link

The first item on my wishlist is to be able to change the "wake word" so I can say, "HELLO COMPUTER" when I want something. Next item, make it sound more like Majel Barrett.

http://blog.falafel.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Living-Star-Trek-Scotty-Hello-Computer-thumb-550xauto-64489.jpeg

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Thursday, 9 April 2015 15:04 (nine years ago) link

yeah, changing the wake word seems obvious! i guess they're trying to make "Alexa" kind of iconic or something? but some of us want to say "penis enchilada, look up a tofu noodle recipe for me" when they get home

Karl Malone, Thursday, 9 April 2015 15:07 (nine years ago) link

It was just announced that it supports Phillips Hue products and WeMo's now. Those are pretty easy entries into partial home automation.

I really just want it to tell me how long until a bus comes.

Jeff, Thursday, 9 April 2015 15:24 (nine years ago) link

It's also useful for asking how tall celebrities are.

Jeff, Thursday, 9 April 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link

lol

mh, Thursday, 9 April 2015 15:27 (nine years ago) link

can you ask how tall Tom Cruise is and then yell "YOU LIE, ALEXA"

mh, Thursday, 9 April 2015 15:27 (nine years ago) link

i want one so that amazon can listen to me all the time/craft a superior consumer experince

lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 23:53 (nine years ago) link

My parents are visiting and my dad refers to this speaker as "the woman who lives in the ceiling" but when he said, "Alexa, play Boston" and "More than a Feeling" came on, he was pretty impressed. My mom is convinced this is a government conspiracy to invade our privacy.

Crazy woman. It's a capitalist conspiracy to invade our privacy, not a government one. DUH.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 17 April 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link

the capitalists provide the means through which the govt invades ur privacy

like the nsa is prob already on top of back-dooring these things so they can open the mic permanently and store records of all the important convos that go on around these special robots

head clowning instructor (art), Friday, 17 April 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link

good point. I always forget we're living in a plutocratic corporatocracy. All that "no no this is a democracy" indoctrination is deeply rooted.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 17 April 2015 17:00 (nine years ago) link

six months pass...

what do people buy using prime now

alo lin (alomar lines), Saturday, 7 November 2015 05:27 (eight years ago) link

Uh everything?

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 7 November 2015 05:37 (eight years ago) link

had food poisoning, used prime now to have gatorade delivered to my door stat after copious vomiting

erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 7 November 2015 06:14 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

Amazon Echo Dot and Tap just announced. Been waiting for something like the dot, since we have wanted to use voice commands throughout the house instead of always yelling in the general direction of the kitchen. Ordered a Dot for the living room to control our TV through the Harmony remote.

Jeff, Thursday, 3 March 2016 16:10 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Is there a thread where we discuss Amazon Prime series? We watched the first two eps of Catastrophe -- not amazing and not worthy of its own thread, but entertaining enough.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Monday, 18 April 2016 17:23 (eight years ago) link

there's a lot of mixed commentary on netflix threads and a few others. there was some talk of man in the high castle

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 18 April 2016 18:33 (eight years ago) link

theres a p good profile of sharon horgan in this wks new yorker -- guess she irl wanted to name her daughter Muireann (instead named her Sadhbh)

johnny crunch, Thursday, 21 April 2016 22:21 (eight years ago) link

and relatedly, i really like the newsmagazine-ish new yorker show on prime.. has a nice freeformedness and delivers me no urge to binge it, which is refreshing

johnny crunch, Thursday, 21 April 2016 22:22 (eight years ago) link

the other huge beneficiary of prime is my cat, who has a lot of often changing and different sized boxes to be inside of

johnny crunch, Thursday, 21 April 2016 22:23 (eight years ago) link

Same here. My cat often remarks (through me, his conduit) that he would love to invest in amazon if he knew how money worked and could land a steady job

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 April 2016 22:49 (eight years ago) link

I have cat food cans auto-delivered via prime

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 21 April 2016 23:43 (eight years ago) link

How does the New Yorker show compared to HBO's Vice show?

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 22 April 2016 04:52 (eight years ago) link

favorably imo but theyre doing diff things

johnny crunch, Friday, 22 April 2016 12:28 (eight years ago) link

there was a new yorker show on how i guess we really did have the intelligence to stop 9/11 which i had heard but i had no idea how real it was and how terribly it was fucked up by inter and intra agency politics

enraging really but well done

man in the high castle was awesomely produced camp!

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 April 2016 14:06 (eight years ago) link

Pay $79 to get free 2-day shipping all year! Er. (Do people need their Amazon orders that quickly?)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, February 7, 2005 6:59 PM (11 years ago)

A valuable historical document.

Alba, Friday, 22 April 2016 14:51 (eight years ago) link

if only we knew

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 22 April 2016 15:01 (eight years ago) link

I guess they're adding their video service as an a la carte thing, for $10 a month or whatever people charge for streaming video these days, if you don't want to go full prime

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 22 April 2016 15:02 (eight years ago) link

Man In The High Castle was a fairly faithful adaptation of the book - most of the changes made sense for tv. Not sure where it will go in season 2 though - I think they might abandon PKD's ending and see what else they can do with the alternate history.

Mr Robot was equal parts fun and corny as hell. Into the Badlands is great if you like that sort of thing. Hand of God hasn't gripped me yet.

I was quite happy with my Lovefilm subscription so to have free delivery and unlimited cloud photo storage and a free kindle loan every month and access to a shit music streaming service thrown in is all a bonus.

Evil Corp has won.

punnerist spoon here (onimo), Friday, 22 April 2016 15:19 (eight years ago) link

is Mr Robot on prime now? I bought it on disc when it came out, really wanted to immediately rewatch

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 22 April 2016 15:32 (eight years ago) link

Yes

punnerist spoon here (onimo), Saturday, 23 April 2016 08:04 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

who here has used PrimeNow? it's dope! i've actually done minor grocery shopping on busy weeks using it (note: not good if you have any kind of particular shopping needs, inventory too limited, but works for me)

Neanderthal, Sunday, 19 June 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link

Pay $79 to get free 2-day shipping all year! Er. (Do people need their Amazon orders that quickly?)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, February 7, 2005 6:59 PM (11 years ago)

A valuable historical document.
― Alba, Friday, April 22, 2016 9:51 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

11 years later, I'm still with Ned.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 19 June 2016 16:51 (seven years ago) link

screw that I got a cat o' nine tails real fast when i needed it

Neanderthal, Sunday, 19 June 2016 17:02 (seven years ago) link

Tbh I get disgruntled when I order something not from Amazon and it takes the better part of a week.

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Sunday, 19 June 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link

if it doesnt arrive next day (as it is in the UK) you complain and you often get an extra 30 days free prime added on. I reckon my father has got well over a years free prime from them :)

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 19 June 2016 17:22 (seven years ago) link

pry my prime out of my cold dead hands etc

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 19 June 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link

Prime is awesome.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 June 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link

really noticed in the last year or so that amazon has slowed its regular free shipping waaay down, presumably to get more people to get amazon prime.

circles, Sunday, 19 June 2016 18:36 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, and they already jacked up the free shipping base to like $35-50 an order. On Prime, I can make a bunch of small change and/or impulse orders (great for gifts or things I just know I can't get locally easily) without the waiting game. Between that and the other benefits (Streaming, AutoRip* etc.) easily justify the cost. Just wish the shipping perks extended to more of the Marketplace, which is still as inconsistent as ever, shipping-wise.

*I was in the hospital for about two weeks a little over a year ago. My AutoRip'd Prime Music on my phone (don't 'do' Spotify) was a lifesaver.

Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 June 2016 18:59 (seven years ago) link

Hey, here's a question. My family just got me Echo for Father's Day, and really I'm not sure what the hell to do with it beyond asking it the weather. Any suggestions/advice? I'd put off buying it for myself for a reason, and now am struggling to be a good sport, but there must be some real benefits. Right?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 June 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

I use it to drive all my home automation, mostly lights. You can get bulbs that work directly with it, but I use it in conjunction with a SmartThings hub to control more types of things.

I also link it with my todo all to add items to my todo list or grocery list. Nice because I can build a grocery list as I'm rummaging around in the kitchen fridge/cabinets.

Other than that, weather, news, timers, alarm clock. There was recently a skill released where I can ask when the next CTA bus is coming. That's fun when I can get it to work.

At the worst, you can use it as a decent Bluetooth speaker.

Jeff, Sunday, 19 June 2016 22:00 (seven years ago) link

I just wish there was an easy way to have it play music from my collection, but it looks like that only works if I upload stuff with Amazon Music, and that costs money. Obnoxiously, Echo will not stream from the Amazon Cloud, just Amazon Music.

I wish I could just say "Alexa, play iTunes on shuffle" and have it start up all the music I keep on my Mac Mini server.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 June 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link

is there a way you can make it fart on command, that would be father's day gold

j., Sunday, 19 June 2016 22:30 (seven years ago) link

Yes, there is a skill for that.

Jeff, Sunday, 19 June 2016 22:38 (seven years ago) link

kids never understand that, they think that dads must just be wizards of farting. but no, it's just a mundane skill you can improve at with practice, just like any other.

j., Sunday, 19 June 2016 23:31 (seven years ago) link

yea prime pantry is good i sent my mom a box full of lentils, etc

johnny crunch, Sunday, 19 June 2016 23:35 (seven years ago) link

OK, a couple of days in and the Echo is pretty maddening. It's like they've designed this really strong technology based on a good idea and did everything they could to impair its functionality. Sometimes I understand why, even if it's no less frustrating. Like how I mentioned you can only play music stored in Amazon Music (limited to 250 songs for free, an annual fee of $25 for 250K) as opposed to whatever you might have in Amazon Cloud (whether you're paying or not); they want to drive people to use Amazon Music, which is lame but I get it. Other stuff is stupid or vindictive, like how it uses Bing to search and not Google and doesn't let you change it. Along those lines, the only way to expand its functionality is to jerry-rig it with IFTTT, which is erratic and limited at best. And then there's total head-scratcher decisions, like the inability to create and use multiple shopping lists or to-do lists, or the way I can be listening to the news and then my kids can just walk in and say "Alexa, play shitty music" or "Alexa, tell me a joke."

What I really want, and what I assume everyone wants, is an always-on device just like this but not hampered by corporate rival bullshit (or shitty tech like the Echo app itself). I want to be able to walk into my house and say "Dipshit, play my Brian Eno mix" or "Bubba, add Cheerios to my shopping list" or "add pick up kids at school to my wife's to-do list." Right now it can't do this. Or I guess what's frustrating is that it undoubtedly *can* do this, but for now they don't want it to, or want to make it too hard for me to do.

Google has their own version of this coming out soon. Rumor has it it will be even simpler, but I have a hunch it will be more useful, and quickly overtake Echo.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 14:17 (seven years ago) link

I use my Echo Dot as an alarm clock, and have a speaker in my bathroom I turn on to listen to the news or music in the shower. I just yell "alexa, news!!" at it as I turn the corner and then turn the speaker on, works pretty well

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 14:22 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, that kind of stuff seems to be the best use of its constrained tech. It's an OK speaker, so I think it will mostly be used to listen to NPR in the morning, and I like its pretty sensitive always-on status.

But, like, more annoyingness: It can give you traffic info, but only if you manually add in various destinations, which is stupid, because using a map app like Google's is so much faster and simpler than that. Also, it lacks SMS functionality, so I can't use it to text by voice. Why not? And so on.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 14:24 (seven years ago) link

It's not... a phone? Phones do SMS, what are you looking for here

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 14:25 (seven years ago) link

Phones can also do most of what Echo can do, too. And then some. But If I'm cooking dinner and my hands are messy, I can't use my phone to text my wife with voice; I have to turn on the phone first. I use my (Android) phone to play music off my server, but that requires using my hands, too; Echo can play music hands-free, but not from where I want it to. My phone can give me traffic and directions, but again, only once I activate it, even using Google Now; Echo can't give me either of those things accurately, unless I program it in. Right now the Echo app is no substitute for various apps (like calendars, or lists) it replaces, but does not allow you to choose alternative apps that either work better or work better for me. Again, it won't even let me add a second, separate shopping list within the Echo app itself, which is crazy. And so on.

I really like the idea of an always-on interface, but this one is hampered. In an ideal world it would be a hands-free smart home hub, and I suppose that is coming, but this is clearly not it.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 14:50 (seven years ago) link

idk, I can turn my lights on and off with it and set temperature, etc

all of the solutions for that are pretty piecemeal right now but as a single-location hub, it works pretty well

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 14:56 (seven years ago) link

It probably helps that I only paid $99 for my Echo, since early prime members where given the chance to buy it first at a reduced price, so I think it's been well worth that. But really only after I started linking all the home automation stuff into it.

Like I have a routine for bedtime for my kid, I just say "Alexa, turn on Bedtime for Ivy" and it turns the lamp in her room to 10%, turns off the office Lamp, lowers the lights in the living room, and turns on her white noise machine. All of that I would have had to do manually before, and even then I couldn't do the dimming. Of course the echo is just the trigger here and I have to have other equipment to do this, so it's not actually doing that much, but it does work well in this use case.

I have a similar routine for wake up time. Actually two different ones, one for Wake up Kid and another for Wake up Wife.

Jeff, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link

the dot is still way the hell backordered. was going to get one for my dad but they're not shipping until late july.

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link

I think all that stuff is great, Jeff, but like you said, it requires third party investment (sort of the way using Amazon Music the way I'd want would require an annual fee). The hands-free function is great, better than I expected, but to do anything beyond smart clock-radio stuff requires lots of outside help, whether IFTTT or some specific lightbulbs or whatever. I love Apple but have resisted its vertical integration mode for similar reasonsl, because it's so controlled it prevents me (or slows me) from doing what I want to do with ease. Speaking of IFTTT, if Echo doing what I want it do to means that I need to invest in several outside or supplementary products or services, then ... it's not doing what I want it to do. It's doing what Amazon wants it/me to do.

Again, this will all work itself out soon enough, I hope, but for now it is a truly maddening epidemic to see solutions on the horizon through a reinforced window that keeps you trapped inside.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:30 (seven years ago) link

like refugees trapped in greece

blazed carrot (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link

Exactly like that.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:49 (seven years ago) link

then my kids can just walk in and say "Alexa, play shitty music"

now what kind of language is this to be using

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 22:49 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Finally giving this a go, as there was a good deal in the Prime Day event that I wanted to get. Not sure whether I'll keep it beyond the one month trial, though it is tempting given my ordering history of the last few years.

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link

what did you get

i considered getting a dustbuster but did not

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link

It was a photography purchase... a fast 128GB Lexar SD Card for just £26. One can never have enough memory cards when it comes to shooting weddings!

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link

I just bought a VTIN Royaler bluetooth speaker, need a new one after my JBL Flip broke. $45, normally $65-70. Not bad. Most of the things I've seen that I would be remotely interested in were at around 20% discount -- not bad, but also not the level of discount that would make me jump to buy something I don't immediately need.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link

I swear it's like I don't know how to use the internet anymore. I go to Amazon, go to the Prime Day splash page, see a bunch of crap I couldn't care less about, see no way to filter sale products into categories that might interest me, so I quit.

skateboard of education (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link

you can filter by category, although you still wind up having to wade through like 50 pages of stuff per category or more with no "view all." however there does seem to be a semi-functional prime-day-only search function.

Generally I find Amazon to be completely shit in terms of navigability and I hate shopping on it unless I know exactly what item/brand/model I want.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:48 (seven years ago) link

They have way too much crap for sale. Way too many products in every category, and everything is bumped by fake reviews. I prefer ordering from Costco where things are more curated, except that they sort of go to the other extreme and could use a bit more selection.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link

It should be more like Black Friday sales imo, confine the sale to very popular items and make the discounts deep.

skateboard of education (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link

So many of the prime deals are items and/or brands I have never heard of. I would have no way of even evaluating whether they were good deals other than trusting Amazon that it was more expensive yesterday.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link

I can see why an internet-based black Friday of that sort would be problematic though -- they probably couldn't do the volume on those items needed to satisfy people and the whole thing would be over in a server-crashing second.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link

(xp) right, and I won't even waste time clicking on item where the price is expressed as a range from 19.95 - 49.95

skateboard of education (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link

i have stuff enough

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link

To find out a price history of an item on Amazon I've been pointed to this website: http://camelcamelcamel.com

I've ignored signing up and just put the URL of the item in the top search bar and it seems to work well.

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link

It turns out that they actually offer same day shipping with Prime here in Glasgow. If you order before noon things arrive later that day and the range available seems quite extensive.

I haven't set it up yet, but it also seems I can share some of my Prime benefits with my girlfriend as part of a household. That's very neat too.

I can imagine I'm going to end up paying for the year in the end.

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Thursday, 14 July 2016 09:04 (seven years ago) link

Did my first same-day delivery. It worked precisely as advertised and was very handy - ordered about 11:30am, arrived about 7pm. Hopefully it wasn't actually like this, but I did feel guilty imagining a delivery van driving the 50-ish miles from the warehouse to my flat that evening with my single item.

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Tuesday, 26 July 2016 13:55 (seven years ago) link

I signed up for Prime last month after years of putting it off because I never had the spare cash to drop on the cost all in one go. But now you can pay for it monthly (and it comes with Amazon video, which I've used a bit already).

Basically, the $10.99/mo pays for itself really quickly.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 26 July 2016 14:13 (seven years ago) link

It also comes with the Amazon Music streaming service, and here's where I'd like some opinions. Is it good enough to forsake spending extra on Spotify and/or Apple Music?

Lee626, Tuesday, 26 July 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link

nah

mh, Tuesday, 26 July 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link

actually it doesn't have a streaming service like spotify yet, you can just stream your own music

mh, Tuesday, 26 July 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link

I stand corrected, they have streaming now, but it sure hasn't done much for me

mh, Tuesday, 26 July 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link

Selection is v poor vs Spotify - I sometimes use the playlists or radio function if I can't be bothered thinking.

get outta the way! here comes (onimo), Thursday, 28 July 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link

It's a nice extra but not worth subscribing for. I don't even know if Prime Video is 100% worth the price but it's come a long way over the past few years, possible they'll improve Music as well.

Nhex, Thursday, 28 July 2016 18:04 (seven years ago) link

Prime membership is such a weird hodgepodge of stuff. It's really hard to value the shipping plus entertainment media combo.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Thursday, 28 July 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link

I like the Video offerings but I already have Netflix and order from Amazon maybe twice a year, so it's like juuuuust not quite worth it

Nhex, Thursday, 28 July 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link

Might get back on if they offer that huge discount again (and/or I get some more money coming in)

Nhex, Thursday, 28 July 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

I'm on my annual free 30 days Prime trial again. God the stuff on there is pretty awful.

Have managed to finally watch Batman Dark Knight Rises thought, and Mad Max was pretty fun. Other than that? A whole lotta nothing.

PressAnarchyToContinue (Ste), Sunday, 23 July 2017 22:18 (six years ago) link

That's nuts, there is so much good stuff.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 July 2017 22:20 (six years ago) link

Near random stuff in my watchlist:

City of God
Captain Fantastic
Moonlight
Salesman
Paterson
20th Century Women
Sweet Hereafter
Married to the Mob
Prom Night
History of Violence
The Handmaiden
Green Room
The Witch

And so on. I suppose some of these come and go from Prime, but I think most of these are current.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 July 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link

Plus whatever original programming is there now. They seem to be ramping up further.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 23 July 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link

Prime Video makes it hard to find the good stuff sometimes, even on my FireTV half the easy to find recommendations are cheap documentaries and straight to video garbage.

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Sunday, 23 July 2017 22:44 (six years ago) link

There's a fourth season of Bosch coming, but no date yet.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 23 July 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

I got invited by Amazon to complete a survey regarding changes to the Prime set up. I guess they'll be changing the price and what's included before too long. They had me laboriously choosing which I'd go for out of various combinations of the shipping/movies/music/photo storage/e-books/deals/etc features of prime at differing price points, trying to gauge which were most important and how much I'd pay for them. I'm very happy at £79 per year, but will baulk if they raise the price or drop any features I do actually use.

From the way they set the questions up it seems like they want to raise the price quite significantly for Prime that features both video streaming and one-day/same-day delivery and have cheaper options that drop either one or both of those aspects.

brain (krakow), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 12:15 (six years ago) link

Doesn't sound surprising; with the explosion of streaming video they presumably have to recoup more costs now.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 14:46 (six years ago) link

fuck amazon

conrad, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link

they're bad but hey we got The Handmaiden out of it

Nhex, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 16:12 (six years ago) link

I never really wanted Amazon Video to begin with so I can sign up for the delivery only

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:59 (six years ago) link

do we have a thread for Amazon's horrific labor practices

http://fortune.com/2017/11/24/amazon-black-friday-2017-strike-italy-germany/

Simon H., Tuesday, 5 December 2017 21:03 (six years ago) link

Worst American tech company thread yeah

.oO (silby), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link

Also, they just opened in Australia and made the odd decision to charge higher prices than their competitors for pretty much everything

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 00:40 (six years ago) link

pulling a real "target in canada" move there

mh, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 01:09 (six years ago) link

It's ok the "invisible hand" will self correct

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 01:13 (six years ago) link

They do that to us too but the maddening thing is never being sure if the item will ship here until you're halfway through buying it

Also no .ie site so kindle is through .com but all else through .co.uk

For a company essentially based four miles from my apartment. Dicks.

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 01:20 (six years ago) link

Sry deems if they actually sold things in Ireland they might have to pay taxes on it

.oO (silby), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 01:24 (six years ago) link

Valid point of course

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 01:32 (six years ago) link

Like it's not that we're not grateful for the job

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 01:32 (six years ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.