how was 'the dana carvey show' not the best show on television ever?

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look at the writing staff!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115148/fullcredits#writers

(btw, i realize the answer to my thread question is "dana carvey", but still.)

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Dana Carvey.

― Darius Rucker Lookalike (deangulberry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

sub-wayne!

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy friggin' Jesus!

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Who knew one man could ruin so much?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

what else did those guys write?

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

mmm louis c.k.

― lychee mello (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, man - Dana Carvey must suck a lot worse than I suspected.

― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

its really unbelievable isn't it.

this proves by science that dana carvey is the comedic neutralizing equivalent of the daily show, chappelle's show, saturday tv funhouse and POOTIE TANG all at once.

― mark (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

and, um, charlie kaufman.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw about 1 minute of his non-SNL-related stand-up act on some Comedy Central list show. Playing piano. Singing "CHOPPIN' BROCOLLAH" ovah & ovah. He's probably worse than what any of you thought.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i loved this show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i saw that routine!i loved that routine!!!!!

― yesterYEARs, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

upon further inspection, the writer's cumulative credits also include dude where's my car, mad tv and joey. backstage must have been an epic showdown between funny and unfunny!

(xpost whoa easy there tiger)

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually say THANK GOD that show didn't work, what the fuck would've happened in comedic tv over the last few years if Chappelle, Carell/Colbert, etc etc were doing THIS instead of what they actually did do? *shiver*

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

You know, the thing that made the Choppin Broccoli skit funny was Phil Hartman and Sigourney Weaver looking all wispy as he sang it... OH why couldn't it have been Dana Carvey's wife that had gone .. are you familiar with the expression "mental" ?

― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

What was "The Dana Carvey Show" like? Was it a sitcom or a sketch show?

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Wait a sec - the "CHOPPIN' BROCCOLAH" bit was an SNL skit, too? WTF, dude! WRITE ONE NEW BIT!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

it was a sketch show, apparently incredibly more edgy/disgusting/vulgar than snl and in primetime too. so i've heard. i've never really heard if it was very funny though.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

dude, it's like all he has! that and the church lady.

i remember when he was the star of snl. what funny times.

(xpost)

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

He was funny as Garth Algar!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

god he must HATE mike myers

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Dana Carvey + edgy = CRISIS!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

dude it was hilarious. he compared mountain dew to piss and pepsi was his sponsor!!

that's almost all i remember but i'm sure other memories sweet memories will come flooding back to me soon.

― antagonizer, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

ts: a lame ass meme about cutting vegetables vs. being richer than god

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

You know, come to think of it, I remember Tom Hanks giving Peter Scolari some work when he was able to - WTF is up w/ Myers giving Dana the high hat, eh?

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

god he must HATE mike myers

"he"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Unless The Master of Disguise made DC rich beyond reason.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

o c'mon - massive head wound harry was funny!

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

One time I saw Dana Carvey do this stand-up bit where he said he rented an all-midget p0rn called Itty Bitty Gang Bang. It was kinda funny at the time!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

it's pretty well known myers ripped off dr. evil from carvey's impersonation of lorne michaels

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember hearing there was a part where he (as Bill Clinton) had puppies suckle at his eight nipples.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

you know what ISNT pretty well known!?! master of disguise is a great frickin movie!!!

― king turtle man, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought he ripped off Dr. Evil from Lorne Michaels! what part makes carvey the middle man?

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

did he start doing softer comedy as a result of some sort of near-death experience?

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

"didN'T" sorry, god im squirrelly today

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

give it fifteen years, you'll hear a newstory about a naked, gibbering Dana Carvey being discovered in the fetal position atop of George Bush's grave, gnawing on his fingernails.

DANA: babble, gah gah, munch...
SECURITY GUARD: Mr. Carvey, Mr. Carvey...
(gently pulls DANA's hands away from his mouth)
SECURITY GUARD: You're just chewing bone now. Come on.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

could be, he had some heart thing a few years back.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

he was under the false impression he was terminally ill. Turned out the doctor had fucked up.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

In defense of Dana Carvey - He's not Robin Williams. But damn is he getting embarassingly close.

― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

also it wasn't really very funny but the last time i can think of him being on snl a few years back they had a sketch where him and ferrell as 41 and 43 going out hunting with the joke being george the elder weighing killing his son for the good of the country.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

his bush was good, i'll give him that

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

ok apparently myers always hated CARVEY because wayne's world was myers's thing and carvey wormed his way into it. there was no garth in the original concept

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

so don't let's get the wrong idea about who's zooming who

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

the show was funny. the network cancelled it because it kept offending advertisers. dana carvey is much more funny than you'd expect.

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

from imdb:

Underwent open-heart surgery for a blocked artery in 1997 but had the wrong artery operated on. Later sued for medical malpractice and was awarded $7.5 million. He's had to undergo five operations in total to correct his heart problem.

his Bush was good but I'll never forgive him for milking any laugh inspired by a hand-gesture. He could never fight his urge to repeat it until the giggles died.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

no, from what i remember from the shales book, apparently carvey did a 'killer' and apparently quite mean impersonation of lorne michaels on the set of snl (he's like one of five people in the book not scared to death of lorne michaels) and myers dr. evil is a straightup lift of it. it's also very clear in the book that him and myers 'had issues'. apparently myers very very much didn't want garth to be in the wayne's world sequel.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

lets also not get the wrong idea about who's got the longdong- myers is a much bigger dick than carvey.

― what, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

that shales book is the best.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

it's pretty great - janeane garofalo comes off very very very badly in it

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

i gotta read that thing one of these days. I definitely remember hearing Myers was pissed about the "Honey Hornay" Kim Basinger subplot. Fuckin' camera hog.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

james tell me more!

im so glad i started this thread.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I also want to read that Jay Mohr book where he talks about what a bitch Ellen Cleghorne was. Chris Rock took him to task for that level of pettiness.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

nora dunn hated victoria jackson

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

victoria jackson is a born again lunatic

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

jan hooks hated victoria jackson

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

how does garafalo come off badly?

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

she doesn't come off as bad as chevy chase, that's for sure

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Like Jay Mohr has ANY leeway to call someone else a bitch!!!!!!

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

it's nearly impossible for anyone to come off as badly as chevy chase

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Chevy Chase? Come off bad? THE HELL YOU SAY!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

the "chevy chase is the worst guest host" running joke in the book is pretty great

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

every generation seems to have been traumatized by him in some way

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i take it none of you have seen fletch or fletch 2 which are two of the five greatest comedies of all time.

― filmerizer, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i can't really remember much specific stuff with garofalo, i remember she came as very very humorless and i sympathised with her ALOT less after i read the book. o one thing i didn't know that kinda suprised me - nbc fired chris farley and adam sandler from snl. apparently they told michaels he had to get rid of sandler, farley, and tim meadows and he fought it so they let him keep meadows.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i love fletch!! still pretty sure the guy is a dick though

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i can't believe he kept MEADOWS of those three

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw him on Celebrity Poker Showdown - he seemed so damn bitter & cranky, like he was passing a kidney stone for 6 hours but didn't want to show too much obvious discomfort. So he groused. A lot.

Firing Tim Meadows is like firing sunshine!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i almost wonder if chevy chase is michael's version of 'scared straight' for each cast

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Dana Carvey is the reason that this show did not work.

― Darius Rucker Lookalike (deangulberry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i cant remember one funny thing tim meadows has ever said or done.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Dana Carvey is the reason that this show did not work.

i feel like we're forgetting something.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

can we talk about how bad the dudes on the current incarnation of snl are?! when are they going to stop trying to making SETH MEYERS a star?!! that guy is comedy kryptonite!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, I got that line from Wayne.

WAYNE >>> SUB-WAYNE

― Darius Rucker Lookalike (deangulberry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

remember that horrible wayne's world rip that jimmy fallon used to do? "dwayne's room" or whatever? it was supposed to be a webcast or something?!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

slocki otm with the exception of the parrot guy whose name i can't remember, he's awesome.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

ZING! (That's a Seth-Myers related type of thing.) (MORE FALCONER!)

Farley > Meadows > Sandler, in my house. Also in my house, food poisioning > Sandler. Also, avoiding calls from bill collectors > Sandler. Oddly enough, Sandler > Sandler, which I didn't think was possible, but, hey, shit happens.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

o, and apparently one time alec baldwin was gonna host, he'd hosted several times already, so he asked lorne if he could pick the musical guest and lorne was like 'yeah sure, who you got in mind?' and baldwin sez 'rosemary clooney' and lorne's all like 'um, well gee alec, it's complicated yknow, cuz we work with the labels and um' and basically just gave him some bullshit answer.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

oh i see what you are saying now slocki, and everyone.

chevy chase has always made my gloomy days brighter. it is a pleasure not to know him, i suppose.

― i dont know who seth myers is ---, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

that "dwaynes room" sketch was PAINFUL. horatio sanz is the poodle's nuts.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i cant remember one funny thing tim meadows has ever said or done.

I saw Tim Meadows and Chris Farley at Second City in Chicago shortly before he joined the SNL cast and they were head and shoulders above the other people on stage with them. If they'd let Tim Meadows do more stuff earlier on, he would be remembered as being much funnier (although The Ladies Man consistently kills me).

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Currently SNL is living off of the women and Will Forte.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

oh man i have a sweeeeet alec baldwin outtakes reel i wish i could share, he's a pseud!

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

tim meadows is funny as hell in mean girls

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

i watched snl for the first time in months and perhaps years this saturday.

tina fey is so hot. but not as hot as alicia silverstone.

― gawd, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

tina fey kinda sucks i think

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

You know who's less funny than Seth Myers? His brother Josh on Mad TV!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

tim meadows' quiet storm DJ was pretty great. I definitely prefer him to Farley or Sandler. workmanlike >> insufferable.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

i mean she's good on weekend update but she's also been the head writer for what is maybe the show's worst extended period ever

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

(although i proabbly thought every period was the worst at one time or another. even old "golden age" snls pretty much suck. the show does NOT age well)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

i dunno, these days it seems alright. what's parrot guy's name anyway?

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

you love seth meyers?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i had no idea tina fey was head writer! she is so hot!

― tinaaaaaaaa, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

what's parrot guy's name anyway?

WILL FORTE

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

nope, different guy.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

FRED ARMISEN

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

he's great.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

fred armisen sucks :/

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

he is the opposite of funny.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, you mean the guy who plays the parrot! Sorry, I thought you were confused about The Falconer.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

"Put a wilted flower near my butt...AND IT BLOOMS!"

― weather1ngda1eson (Brian), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

One of the funniest things ever was watching Alec Baldwin upstage Seth Myers in the "Zing! Burn!" sketch.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

like that must have been difficult

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

"it's a schweti family recipe. everyone loves my... schweti balls."

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i've only seen two minutes of this show in years. It was Tina Fey and her new weekend update co-host. Two self-satisfied smirks for the price of one was still too expensive.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

amy proehler's the new wu co-host right?

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah. bad call

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

slocki OFFtm

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah. she might be fine in skits but goddamn did she feel redundant on the part I saw (ironically it was the Ashlee Simpson episode! If I stuck around I could have seen TV history!)

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm trying to figure out if SNL has ever had a good Weekend Update host. I almost want to say Miller but I bet those are rose-colored glasses. I know that the Hooks/Dunn/Hartman era deserves more love.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

http://snl.jt.org/arc/epskit/04-11-13-6.jpg

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah snl is straight SEXIST. the men are total toss now, and we've been in going on a 10 yr fkn rennaissance of great snl women. DELICIOUS DISH MOVIE NOW.

― f--gg (gcannon), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

norm mcdonald had his moments.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

has it been ten years since Molly Shannon left? Cuz it sure wasn't a renaissance when she was around. I'd argue she proved that women could be just as obnoxious as Sandler/Farley. A true pioneer.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

norm mcdonald had his moments.

five that played on a loop, if I remember correctly.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread is less funny than the Dana Carvey show. Where is this thread's Bill Clinton with eight nipples!!?

― Darius Rucker Lookalike (deangulberry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

when will SNL stop? when Lorne Michaels dies?

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

chase was a good weekend update cohost, i liked curtin and ackroyd alot too. bill murray didn't really work that great for me on it though, so maybe amy poehler (who's incredibly funny as hell everywhere else i've seen her)(note: i haven't seen her on snl) doesn't work well in that slot either.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

the one filler bit where maya rudolph was a woman on Millionaire who goes through a complete mental & marital breakdown and recovery on like the $800 dollar quesiton—unreal.

― f--gg (gcannon), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Carvey did 2 funny things: Bush Sr. and Perot
"Caaan I finish? Can I finish? CanIfinishcanIfinishcanIfinish??

― Will(iam), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

it'll stop two, maybe three years after michaels dies and the network finally gets to control it (the book makes it VERY clear they've got (horrible horrible) ideas in store).

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

o dear god - now i remember what i really hated about dana carvey: people imitating his imitations.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

and the McGlaughlin skit I remember being funny. but other than that, complete toss.

― Will(iam), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

in that case how much does it cost to hire someone to kill Lorne Michaels?

x-post

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

o dear god - now i remember what i really hated about dana carvey: people imitating his imitations

so true. Of course I'm sure I was extremely guilty of this at 14.

― Will(iam), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/the_master_of_disguise/dana_carvey/master2.jpg http://www.moviehole.net/img/masterofdisguise.jpg

i will never see Master Of Disguise

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Anybody ever seen Opportunity Knocks? I haven't and I don't think I know anybody who has.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I have! I remember thinking it was great at age 12. Which means it's total rubbish.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

SNL is a lumbering behemoth, staggeringly old, almost blind, chewing its way through seemingly endless fields of in-bred pop culture references, leaving nothing in its wake but giant stinking piles of festering dung in the shape of malformed comedy careers, which provide neither laughs nor insight, and crack and dry in the sun after only a few short months. It is a broken factory, a toxic garden. DIE NOW.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

oh man i have a sweeeeet alec baldwin outtakes reel i wish i could share, he's a pseud!

Don't tease!

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Re Molly Shannon, I never thought she was anything special, but then I saw the Best of... episode, and I realized that she was really quite gifted at physical comedy, even if she wasn't funny otherwise. (And I mean more than just falling over in the Mary-Margaret-whatever skits, which was basically just swiped from Chris Farley's Matt Foley character.)

Norm McDonald definitely had his moments. Half of his shtick was having a joke fall flat and then incessantly staring at the camera, though, so I can see why NBC got nervous and canned him. One of my favorite Weekend Update jokes was him talking about a salmonella scare at a Baskin Robbins: "Health inspectors aren't sure whether the flavor responsible was the vanilla, the chocolate, or the UNCOOKED PORK SWIRL."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

haha nbc's canning him was PURELY becuz of the oj jokes

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

His OJ jokes were hilarious!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

it was all about how macdonald groaned out his punchlines.

"In Milwaukee, Wisconsin, a man allowed his eight-year-old daughter to take the wheel of his car, and an accident ensued that damaged seven other cars and injured six people. Which once again proves my theory - WOMEN CAN'T DRIVE."

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

You guys are reminding me of exactly how much I despised Norm MacDonald on SNL. STAB HIM WITH SPORKS.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

IN THE EYES.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)

The kindest thing I can say about Norm's Weekend Update stint was that it wasn't as bad as Colin Quinn's (aka The Nadir Of Human The Experience).

Brad Hall and Kevin Nealon were underrated.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

WTF NO ONE MENTIONED TRACY MORGAN

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)

BRIAN FELLOWES? HELLO?

THE HOMELESS SINGING GUY? EAT A DOODOO PIE?

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Kevin Nealon's delivery = joke-read-without-timing-or-beat -> forced pathetic smirk.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

are the british people totally lost here?

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Tracy Morgan was clearly the bomb! There's absolutely no question about that, so why bring it up?

Kevin Nealon's delivery = joke-read-without-timing-or-beat -> forced pathetic smirk.

I am convinced you are confusing Kevin Nealon with Colin Quinn.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Or maybe Norm MacDonald, HA.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

anyone remember when norm cursed on the air? brilliant!

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

"Kevin Nealon's delivery = joke-read-without-timing-or-beat -> forced pathetic smirk."

I think you have him confused with Colin Quinn, who is completely incapable of delivering a joke. Why that tongue-tied moron has a comedy career is really beyond me.

x-post Dan!!

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not British but I'm more lost the more recent it gets.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, someone gave Colin Quinn his OWN SHOW! On the COMEDY CHANNEL! It is NEVER FUNNY!

this is precisely why SNL must be stopped...

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.tmalliance.com/uploads/000010/BrianFellow.jpg

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

PLEASE WELCOME... A DONKEYYYYYYYYYYYY

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

One of the funniest things I've ever seen on SNL was Kevin Nealon doing a Sam Donaldson imitation where he started out by using his index fingers to push his eyebrows into Donaldson's drag-queen arch, said, "Good evening, I'm Sam Donaldson," then removed his fingers and continued the sketch like he hadn't been completely ripping on Donaldson's amazingly fucked-up eyebrows.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

oh christ norm mcdonald doing weekend update was the funniest thing EVER on SNL after the non-Lorne Michaels 1984 season. His moments were the anti-SNL. Is there a best of DVD of him yet?

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

The only time I can remember finding Norm MacDonald funny was that incredibly brilliant David Lettermen sketch.

"Uhhh.... got any gum?"

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I do think Nealon is underrated in general, but Weekend Update was not his strong suit -- he never had the ability to make light of himself when he fucked up his delivery. It was just quiet and awkward. I rank 90s W.U. anchors: McDonald > Nealon > Quinn.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

It was disappointing in Comedian to see that Seinfeld and Quinn hang out all the time.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, someone gave Colin Quinn his OWN SHOW! On the COMEDY CHANNEL! It is NEVER FUNNY!

It's gone now, mercifully. This was to be predicted. All he did near the end was make pained little "jokes" about how no one likes him. It's funny because it's true! No, wait... it's still not funny!

― sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Kevin Nealon's delivery = joke-read-without-timing-or-beat -> forced pathetic smirk.

I am convinced you are confusing Kevin Nealon with Colin Quinn.

No, though Quinn was much worse, Nealon had a habit of doing this as well. And the subliminal man thing was stupid.

However, along with Nealon pushing his eyebrows up like Sam Donaldson, I also enjoyed his Brent Musburger imitation where he just simply stretched the sides of his eyes with his fingers.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

There's a skit where Nealon plays an interviewer who looks at the camera and makes a fucked-up expression once he gets his subject to cry. I saw it for the first time while tripping on robotussin and IT BLEW MY FUCKING SKULL APART.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think I could have been less prepared to have Kevin Nealon stare at me and drop the side of his mouth.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Why the fuck isn't there a Maya Rudolph movie?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

or a playboy spread?

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

WORD.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 17 March 2005 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Amy Poehler is really the only reason to watch SNL this season.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 17 March 2005 03:14 (twenty-one years ago)

there was another short bit that ran a few times with maya rudolph and tracey morgan as two old drunks in a bar. it was like watching tv from fifty years ago, no punchlines, very short (ALL SNL BITS END AROUND 3 MINUTES AFTER THEY SHOULD), a little touching actually.

― f--gg (gcannon), Thursday, 17 March 2005 03:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i remember several years back the season premiere had no repeat characters, no catchphrases, and one sketch that was like one of those old gilda radner things where they seemed to be aiming for sublime as much as hilarious. it was pretty much crutch free, minus most of the negative tendencies of the show since michaels came back, and while not actually any better than a normal episode still sorta refreshing or surprising at least, like 'o look, mom's sober'.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 17 March 2005 03:35 (twenty-one years ago)

haha!

funny we haven't talked about guests much. nancy kerrigan, anyone? michael jordan? colin farrell?

my two recent favorites: kirsten dunst and john mccain.

― f--gg (gcannon), Thursday, 17 March 2005 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

yes there is only like 45% overlap between the ideas "let's make a funny show" and "let'd make an SNL episode"

― f--gg (gcannon), Thursday, 17 March 2005 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay it's off-topic now, but I remember the Dana Carvey Show being hilarious. Bear in mind I was thirteen at the time. The only things I remember are the Mountain Dew = piss/corporate sponsor blowout and a segment called "Germans Who Say Nice Things," where Carvey and some other dude would scream polite things like "You have a fantastic hairstyle!" in heavy German accents. Actually, reading it over, that sounds terrible. But probably 99% better than SNL now or at the time.

― brooke edel (brookedel), Thursday, 17 March 2005 08:41 (twenty-one years ago)

the british people feel like they're missing out. the british people enjoyed 'wayne's world', 'mean girls', 'stripes', 'fletch', and 'anchorman', so they could feel worse.

― NR_Q, Thursday, 17 March 2005 09:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Fred Armisen is actually goddamned funny as hell .. They need to use him more. I accidentally saw him do standup last year & was roffling - I don't think any of it would be funny to most of the people who watch SNL though.

― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 17 March 2005 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Why the fuck isn't there a Maya Rudolph movie?

3001, A comedy by Mike Judge.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 17 March 2005 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.comedytown.com/2002/images/Armisen.jpg

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 17 March 2005 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

AY DIOS MIO

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 March 2005 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i cant remember one funny thing tim meadows has ever said or done.

Weird, I was just thinking the same thing about every single "comedian" mentioned on this thread!

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember this show. It had a new sponsor every week -- at first it was like Mountain Dew Present's the Dana Carvey Show or whatever. I remember not liking it at the time, even having very low standards for humor then.

― David Allen (David Allen), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Fred Armisen is funny as fuck! Even if his only role ever had been the "ess-COO-zeeh" guy in Eurotrip!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

funny we haven't talked about guests much. nancy kerrigan, anyone? michael jordan? colin farrell?

The best guest/host EVER = Christopher Walken. They should do a Best Of Walken SNL DVD! The Continental! The creepy guy who predicts mundane things about the future when he touches people! The Bruce Dickinson cowbell skit! Etc!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

They have a best of Walken DVD! I've seen it at Target.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

3001 looks like it could be good, nick, but I see Luke Wilson's name above Maya Rudolph's. I'm talking about a goddamn MAYA RUDOLPH MOVIE which won't happen, because SNL doesn't push its the characters its women come up with nearly as hard as it does the men, for whom each character becomes some apparently genius archetypal prototype for which many sequeles must be filmed, just to catch each facet of the myriad genius possibilities of fucking Deuce Bigalow or what the fuck ever. I mean I think the key grip dude has had his own movie franchise by the point. Yeah I know, newsflash, SNL is totally sexist, I know I'm not blowing anyone's mind here, but it seems especially egregious now when the only consistently good folks are the ladies, they're the ones people tune in to see, and still they get 2nd-banana roles in Mike Judge films instead of the full-on SNL treatment. Maya can run with the ball! GIVE MAyA THE BALL.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Molly Shannon got a movie! Um.

I actually really like the fact that Tina Fey's movie was not at all about Tina Fey.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Nevertheless it still kind of sucked.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

it wasn't produced by Lorne Michaels either so it doesn't really count

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

When the women start creating excruciating one note characters who screech catchphrases in episode after episode after episode they'll get to make "SNL" movies. How Molly did it. How Tim Meadows finally did it. Remember that Rob Schneider got his movies via Adam Sandler's (Silkk The Shocker to his Master P), not Lorne (correct me if I'm wrong).

(x-post)

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

They should've made a DOG SHOW movie.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Maya Rudolph should play Beyonce in a biopic!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

the camera will not come to you. you must come to the camera, LEAPING AND SCREAMING

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude the Dana Carvey Show wasn't as horrible as everyone seems to think it was...but it was really...uncomfortable. I mean yeah the famous Mountain Dew=piss thing when the fucking sponsor was Pepsi, wtf? And I remember that German guy skit too, that was actually kind of funny and not as uncomfortable to watch. What no one here seems to remember as the absolute pinnacle of "completely discomforting television" was the skit where he PLAYED PRINCE CHARLES, AS A TAMPON. I had blocked that from memory UNTIL I saw this thread title. This was like the most alarming thing I've ever seen, IIRC he SANG A SONG ABOUT BEING PRINCE CHARLES, THE TAMPON, and there was graphical indications of what was going to be done with PRINCE CHARLES, TAMPON. And it was like FIFTEEN MINUTES LONG.

Norm MacDonald was not unfunny to me, the David Letterman Show skit and his constant usage of Hasselhoff as a punchline were pretty amusing, every time.

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

also this is one of the first photographs you find on image search for Maya Rudolph!

http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/tv_pix/vh1/vh1_fashion_awards_photos/_group_photos/donatella_versace19.jpg

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

NO WAIT I'M WRONG

I am confusing TWO SEPARATE SKETCHES ABOUT PRINCE CHARLES

Tampon Skit did NOT include a song. The song one was about BEHEADING PRINCESS DIANA, which he then did, to a mannequin, at the end of it.

BOTH were like 15 minutes long.

Fucking disturbing, seriously.

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

there must be copies of this show floating around. it needs to be on dvd.

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, no, after writing that all out I'm now kind of questioning the fact that I hold the opinion that this wasn't the best show on television ever.

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

God I am so in love with Maya Rudolph.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean honestly everything I am now recalling from this show can be graphically described in the following fashion:

http://www.hellblazer.com/media/jumping-the-shark.jpg

I think maybe it is much better than SNL has been in quite a long time! But that's not too difficult!

― Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

did you know that maya rudolph is minnie ripperton's daughter?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 19 March 2005 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

six years pass...

http://www.gq.com/entertainment/movies-and-tv/201108/dana-carvey-oral-history-dana-carvey-show#ixzz1UXNWfFAg

― scott seward, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 14:03 (fourteen years ago)

i watched all of this a few years ago and it wasn't very funny but i guess i'll read that. did they interview charlie kaufman?

― full on... mask hysteria (history mayne), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 14:07 (fourteen years ago)

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