This is the thread where we discuss the Bryan Singer Superman fillum

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Kate Bosworth is going to be the worst Lois Lane ever.

But I'm excited that Hugh Laurie is going to be in the film.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Parker Posey has just signed on to be Lex Luthor's right hand girl or something.


I'm not looking forward to Kevin Spacey smarming his way through Lex.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Hugh Laurie sucks with an American accent, though. I tried watching House but I found it too painful to listen to. He's as bad as the guy on Still Standing.

Leon Bluth (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, what role is Laurie supposed to be?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Perry White

Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I think his American accent is fine. Sexy, even.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, thank you -- for a quick horrified second I was all "Since when is HE playing Superman?"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, Kevin Spacey and Parker Posey as an evil mastermind and his accomplice? There's no way that I'm going to get through this without giggling like crazy.

mike h. (mike h.), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

They were talking about casting Elisha Cuthbert as Lois Lane! WTF with casting blondes for the most ubiquitous brunette like ever!?!?

Last I had heard they were going to get Evangeline Lilly from LOST to play Lois...that would've been good...sad emotion tears go here now.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

ummmm, what about X3???

Fuck a Superman.

Victor Mackulous (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think Evangeline would have been able to play smart and sassy though. She has one mode...pensive and slightly pissed off.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The English guy (Matthew Vaughan?) who did Layer Cake is now directing X3. This Superman film looks really boring so far, cast wise.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

No Gene Hackman = no good.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I hope they tell the story of Kandor, the Bottle City.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Supposedly in the film Lois is going to have a child! WTF?

Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I put that in white text, but I suppose the board doesn't support that anymore.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck a whole bunch of this movie, omg! The more I learn about it, the more it SUCKS!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

http://theages.superman.ws/Krypton/map/1-kandor.jpg

Oh, and word is they're going to use stock footage of Marlon Brando as Jor-L!
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/characters/jor-el/i-doomed.jpg

Huk-L, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think Evangeline would have been able to play smart and sassy though

On the other hand, neither can Kate Bosworth. She'll just look emaciated and shiver, like one of those chihuahuas.

The supporting actors are okay, but the casting for Superman and LL seems very poor.

Leon Bluth (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Spacey will be hammily delightful as Luthor, though I was originally dismissive.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Supposedly in the film Lois is going to have a child! WTF?
And, in some Star Wars switcheroo, in the sequel it will turn out the daddy is Lex Luther, no?

Hugh Laurie sucks with an American accent
Instead of Hugh Laurie they should get Lee Evans.

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Ugh, the least likeable kid from Detroit Rock City as Jimmy.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for the Kandor stuff, BTW. I've trying for the past month to think of how it got in the bottle. I forgot it was "stolen by Braniac."

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

And, in some Star Wars switcheroo, in the sequel it will turn out the daddy is Lex Luther, no?

*SPOILER*


Nah, it's Perry White's son's kid.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Spacey will be hammily delightful as Luthor, though I was originally dismissive.

I wanted Lex to be sexy and dangerous. I've been watching too much Smallville. Which, while it sucks, has a fantastic Lex.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Like sands through Kandor's hourglass, so go the days of Lois Lane.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned with teh funny! Let me buy you a pint when you're in town. Oh, wait.

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Beyonce shold have played Lois Lane when she becomes black for one day, that would have been more entertaining than Kate Bosworth.

Leon Bluth (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Lex bald in Smallville?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

It'll be better than Lois & Clark where Luthor wasn't even bald!

Huk-L, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

In my mind the issue with the black Lois Lane was called "I Am Curious (Black)"

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

*SPOILER*
Darn. I was so waiting to post

Lex Luthor *IS* a Daddy!

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

You know who would have made a good Luthor? Will Arnett.

Leon Bluth (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Superman takeoff.

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Kal Penn is also going to be in this as a minion of Lex's.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I am the only one who ever thought Mon-El sounded like a kind of transit system?

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Mon-El-Vez, the Mexican Elvis from the planet Krypton!

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Leon OTM, COME ON!

Huk-L, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Superman Vs The Hot Cops, COME ON!
http://us.ent4.yimg.com/tv.yahoo.com/images/he/photo/tv_pix/fox/arrested_development/will_arnett/ep_peteriovino2.jpg

Huk-L, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Suggested soundtrack song:
"Going Back to Kal-El"

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't anyone else concerned that the next Superman is going to be played by someone who used to be on "Undressed"????!?!? I'm freaking out over here!!

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish Superman was written and directed by the talent behind "Undressed".

Leon Bluth (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Seriously though, if Will Arnett's talents are never tapped to play an evil genius supervillain, then the human race has failed.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Will Arnett has the best voice EVER. He would make a great evil genius, I agree. I can see him in a mad scientists' smock, easily.

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

L LUTHOR IS NOT BALD IN SMALLVILLE.

the lies we tell, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Ummmm...yes, he is.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

OH. well that's strange.

aouam, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

http://imagesource.allposters.com/images/MMPH/249963.jpg

Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy shit its Maggie Gyllenhaal in a swim cap.

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

HA!

Huk-L, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

To me it looks like Maggie G and also James Spader, the bald love-child of Secretary.

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...
DVD Extras before the movie even comes out!

Postmodernity anyone?

What is the point of this movie? Look at the sheer insane expense--they built an entire farm and grew crops! This movie has already been made! What is going on? Is this par for the course in hollywood?

richardk (Richard K), Sunday, 14 August 2005 03:24 (twenty years ago)

Is this still supposedly a sequel to the Christopher Reeves movies?

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Sunday, 14 August 2005 03:34 (twenty years ago)

ten months pass...
:)

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 June 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

As in actually good or better than you expected?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 June 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

as in almost as good as i had hoped

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 June 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

dish the dirt yo!

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 June 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

I really have no concept of what even the plot outline is. the ads/previews are super-vague.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 June 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

it's a little too long and i still think bosworth is a bad lois lane, but otherwise it's really solid, totally draws on the richard donner movies (same design for the credit sequence, daily planet, krypton, fortress of solitude etc), LOTS of treats for fans of the (good) movies and/or comics, routh totally inherits the mantle, spacey fun, parker "shoulda been lois" posey also fun, some surprisingly good jokes, and a couple of FANTASTIC set pieces.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 June 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

(and of course the music)

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 June 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

seriously why DIDN'T Parker get the Lois role? She's the perfect combo of urbane, cute, and sassy

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 June 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

too old

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 June 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

(sadly in hollywood this is true)

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 June 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

fuckin Hollywood

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 June 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

i was eating last night in front of the premere! i saw conner oberst, superman, dean cain, spacey, the stuart dood from mad tv, kate bosworth and shaq deisel!!!

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Thursday, 22 June 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

haha awesome

The boy wants to see it in IMAX 3D.

mummy wrapped in bacon (nickalicious), Thursday, 22 June 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

he should!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 June 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

me too!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 22 June 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

you should!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 June 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

I think the Imax in Regina is still showing the Rolling Stones wtf.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 22 June 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

dean cain

Heh, nice touch.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 June 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Now that I'm finally seeing some trailers for it, I myself am also extremely hype about the IMAX 3D. The action sequences in this movie look unbelievably badass.

The ad on myspace: what the hell is all that stuff jutting out of the background behind Kevin Spacey?

mummy wrapped in bacon (nickalicious), Thursday, 22 June 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

how's Kumar?

kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

henchman-ish!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

the airplane action sequence is the JAM.

as is the title sequence.

and they will both be the SUPER-JAM in IMAX 3D.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

Manohla Dargis sez "leaden" -- good enough for me.

Jeeezus, BRANDO digitally resurrected for a cameo? He's having a shitty posthumous career. Too bad he doesn't have a scene with Eva Marie Saint, right?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

If you're going to ressurect Brando and give Lex Luthor a prominent role, then WHY NOT RESURRECT THIS MAN TOO?

http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/news_images/5747_15079_1.jpg

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

Alfred, you are pretty generally fairly OTM, but I think this instance is the OTM to beat them all.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

General Zod is the greatest villain of modern times.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

close but no Khan!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Khan's fashion wasn't nearly as good, though.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

khan's fashion was pretty darn good!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

But he is no General Zod. If you were comparing him to Lex Luthor then he'd win the fashion hands down.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, yes, but Khan and Luthor DON'T ANSWER QUESTIONS POSED BY THEIR SLAVES:

My Question:
Dear General ZOD,

I find myself wondering what your opinion is on gay marriages and abortion. I am sure that you will have the solution that Planet Houston has been searching for. You seem to come from a "Sexually liberated" planet, as demonstrated by your devotion to your sadistic, wild eyed girlfriend and furry, "monkey man" sidekick. Us on Planet Houston can only wonder what happens in the glorious bedroom of General ZOD, but since you never seem to have time to take off your pajamas, it must be exhausting. I await your superior advice on this confusing subject...

Zod's Response: What I do not understand is why matters such as marriage of any sexes would concern a slave who should be doing nothing but kneeling in tribute to me! It appears as though you will soon discover my opinion on abortion, however, for I have just decided to abort your life! DIE AS YOU DESERVE TO!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

This movie was totally good.

adam (adam), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 05:07 (nineteen years ago)

this movie was totally disappointing. :(

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 08:25 (nineteen years ago)

I found Ebert's review funny, but I wonder why he's gone all "let's scrutinize superpowers and comics logic" on us after loving X3.

Mind you I have no interest in this film.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

Do you believe a man can fly?

(Even when he is not a man but an alium).

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

lois aside, i'm a big fan.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

do be-lieeeeeeeeeeeeeve in life after love?

Werner Herzog Netflix Quine (ex machina), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder why he's gone all "let's scrutinize superpowers and comics logic" on us after loving X3.

No Halle Berry bootycure.


I liked the movie.

GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I'm with slocki. Lois was all wrong, everything else was all right!

Well okay, the middle section could've used some editing, but otherwise, totally worthy sequel to Donner's original two.

Roz (Roz), Thursday, 29 June 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

I found Ebert's review funny, but I wonder why he's gone all "let's scrutinize superpowers and comics logic" on us after loving X3.

Totally different types of superheroes from totally different publishing houses? That might have something to do with it. I mean I like the X-Men and think Superman (generally-haven't seen the new film) is totally retarded. If you go into it thinking Superman is retarded you're going to have a problem, I think. Granted I have no idea what he thinks of previous Superman films.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Thursday, 29 June 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

I fucking HATED, HATED, HATED this film.

Bosworth is one of the worst alltime castings, ever. She's terrible and terrible for the role. Her kid is also dismal. The plot is miserable, a total Hollywood moneygrab with ZERO creativity. Parker Posey is okay, Spacey is fine. The fake Christopher Reeve is passable. The Daily Planet riffing is gawdawful and absymally tired.

The opening title sequence is the bomb, because that music will never cease to be awesome. It's the only thing they got right.

don weiner (don weiner), Thursday, 29 June 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

hey don are you the same don weiner who directs 'so you think you can dance'? if so, nice job on that. tell allison we are rooting for her.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 29 June 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

sadly i agree with don. i really wanted this to be great. the kid subplot was the worst thing ever. casting on this shit was out the door. no one brought anything to the table other than spacey, posey and jimmy olsen. supes had no authority on the screen and it seemed like the writers wrote themselves into a hole at the end. oh yah, singer cant build up tension for shit. things shake alot in this film. like 20 times. everyone panics and everything is shaking. alot. ok. enough. sheesh.

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Thursday, 29 June 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

i'll save it for dvd, i think

gear (gear), Thursday, 29 June 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

Scanner Darkly ain't out yet, is it?

oh wait, not for another week. Damn.

kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 29 June 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

these doods that wrote the film. they are like what 23? 24? it just felt like they tried so hard to get it and they still didn't get it!

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Thursday, 29 June 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

haha haikunym.

seriously, this film sucks. I wanted to like it, but in the face of both Spidermans and Batman Begins, this is unbelievably bad. ZERO dramatic tension in the script, zero chemistry between any of the actors. there is no soul to this one. Yes, some of the action scenes are well done, but any movie above $200M has the CGI firepower to do that. A by-the-book disaster.

don weiner (don weiner), Thursday, 29 June 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

gah, sorry to hear this! it's weird in comics now there's been a slight resurgance in superman in the regular titles but esp in grant morrison's all-star superman (perhaps inspired by the release of the incredibly awesome and cheap superman showcases) that have shown here's how you do superman, and alot of what i've heard about this one (messianic superman, bizarre reverence to the donner flick which was good but hardly great) suggests they're showing how not to do superman (which is what dc's been doing in the comics most of the time for as far back as i can remember). i'll probably see this anyway though. kate bosworth was some obv poor casting from the get-go, if they wanted to go young hottie (though this would make little sense with the plot from what i gather - we're supposed to believe that kate bosworth is old enough to have graduated college, worked her way up to some position at a major daily, had some relationship with superman, had him disappear for years, had a kid and still advanced her career further and she still looks young enough that you'd definitely card her?) lindsay lohan would've made a decent lois though obv lana lang would've been even better. she's definitely got some margot in her.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 29 June 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

yeah I haven't read any of Morrison's stuff yet, gotta get those (how many are there?)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 June 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

it's just now at 4 i think, they come out pretty irregularly. the most recent one actually made jimmy olsen seem cool and doomsday seem like a good idea. this is what we call 'miracleworking'.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 29 June 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

grant morrison is MAJIK

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Thursday, 29 June 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

BOSWORTH LOOKS ALL OF FUCKING 15YRS OLD. Plus, she's skeletal like she borrowed Kidder's addictions on the way to a table reading. DISMAL casting.

I'm just over giving comic movies a pass because they blew a load on CGI. Anyone with a budget can do killer action scenes now, and the ground that Spidey/Batman plowed leaves a huge trench for Superman to fill. The storyline isn't compelling at all. The only suprise is the XXXXXXXX and that was so fumbled I can barely take it. Really, I want to root for this film but just can't in any way.

don weiner (don weiner), Thursday, 29 June 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

the trailers make this look about as good as X3

gear (gear), Thursday, 29 June 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

you guys are bumming me out. now all I have to look forward to is Strangers with Candy and A Scanner Darkly.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 June 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

How does the kid subplot answer the questions posed in "Man Of Steel, Woman Of Kleenex?"

Fsck Washing Ong's Hat (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 29 June 2006 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

he thinks of kryptonian baseball

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 29 June 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

We kept fighting back laughter during some of the action scenes. Lois Lane isn't superpowered, how the hell does she keep surviving getting slammed around the airplane/boat/room? After she falls a couple times it just gets ridiculous.

business up front, party entrance at side door (mike h.), Friday, 30 June 2006 00:46 (nineteen years ago)

I'm so gonna see The Devil Wears Prada instead of this because of you people.

milo z (mlp), Friday, 30 June 2006 00:47 (nineteen years ago)

she's definitely got some margot in her.

hahaha. oh, if only her later years are as entertaining.

kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 30 June 2006 01:37 (nineteen years ago)

"entertaining" as in "she gets assaulted and has a nervous breakdown"?

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 30 June 2006 02:32 (nineteen years ago)

anyway this movie is like 1000x better than shitty x3! and not as good as the pre-batman parts of batman begins but 1000x better than everything past BB's one-hour mark

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 30 June 2006 02:33 (nineteen years ago)

i liked this okay. it kinda falls apart in the last act though. was it me, or was the color scheme in this rather muted? i mean, especially for a superman movie.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 1 July 2006 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

Re: the kid

I think that Superman and Lois only ever did IT once, in the Fortress of Solitude, in Superman II, after he asked his mom to take away his powers so that he could be normal and get beat up in truck stops like anyone else.
Also, the Smallville conceit is that the superpowers didn't really develop until puberty (something about accumulation of solar energy), so Krypto-fetus would be safe for human uterus.

Re: the whole movie

the five-yr-old inside me figured out the problem with this movie not long after the great opening sequence.
SUPERMAN WENT ON A MISSION TO OUTERSPACE AND YOU DIDN'T MAKE THE MOVIE ABOUT THAT???

Huk-L (Huk-L), Saturday, 1 July 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

There were lots of things I loved about the movie (production design, Brandon Routh as Superman but more as the MOST ADORABLE CLARK KENT EVAR, Kevin Spacey/Parker Posey, Kumar making up for his lack of lines by mugging for the camera every chance he got) and some things I really hated. The pacing of the whole last act was really screwy (a lot less dramatic suspense and a lot more "where the fuck is Superman"), and everything after Superman crashed in the park (WE WILL SAVE HIM WITH OUR HUMAN MEDICINES) was just plain stupid, especially the random "OH BUT WHAT HAPPENED TO LEX AND KITTY" aside that was randomly crammed in.

And is it just me, or was everything about Lois Lane just wrong? A Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist who can't spell "catastrophic," has to get her fiance to butter up her boss, and has a tantrum when she can't cover the story she wants? Lame. Also the "mommy should I stay in the car?" "NO OF COURSE NOT COME INTO THE MYSTERIOUS SHIP WITH ME" was pretty, um, hilarious.

The best thing about the whole movie was the Spider-Man 3 trailer.

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Saturday, 1 July 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, blackouts vs. SUPERMAN, nice nose for news, Lois. (so what if it was sort of redeemed)

The spelling thing is a throwback to Margot Kidder's Lois, who was a poor speller (in times of stress, like when she was trapped under the elevator of the Eiffel Tower in Supes II, she welled spell words out loud). I know plenty of reporters/writers/journalists who can't spell. It's almost a common trait.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Saturday, 1 July 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

Ah I see, thanks for the info!

I didn't really fault her for wanting to cover the blackouts (esp. since it was actually an EMP, not just a blackout), she was just so damn whiney about it when she was told to cover Superman instead. I mean, it wasn't like she built her CAREER on him or anything. Also I really would have preferred it if Lois was truly "over" Superman instead of being a sulky vindictive bitch about it.

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Saturday, 1 July 2006 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

IN CONCLUSION Lois was by far the worst part of the movie, the end.

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Saturday, 1 July 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

if this film has a better set-piece than niagara falls then it's on to a winner, surely.

michael wells (michael w.), Saturday, 1 July 2006 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

NEWSFLASH

THIS MOVIE DID NOT SUCK

SLOCK1 OTM THROUGHOUT

THANK YOU

David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 2 July 2006 00:36 (nineteen years ago)

It didn't suck. But it totally should have been about Superman IN SPACE, meeting Space Princess and fighting Vegan Warlocks and JUGGLING PLANETS.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Sunday, 2 July 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

They're totally set up for that in the sequel.

David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 2 July 2006 04:34 (nineteen years ago)

But it totally should have been about Superman IN SPACE, meeting Space Princess and fighting Vegan Warlocks and JUGGLING PLANETS.

you want the next xmen flick to be about starjammers, don't you?

DON'T YOU?!

kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 2 July 2006 06:39 (nineteen years ago)

The movie was pretty messy, but there were some pretty awesome parts and BR was pretty damn good as Superman.


Kate Bosworth needs to be shoved in front of a moving vehicle before they start filming the next one though. Recast!

Melissa W (Melissa W), Sunday, 2 July 2006 09:40 (nineteen years ago)

I think it was Slocki who suggested (maybe on ILC) that Parker Posey really should have been Lois, and I had a hard time not thinking of that every time the Bozz was onscreen.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Sunday, 2 July 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

this movie only did slightly better than 'batman begins' did in its opening weekend(!)

gear (gear), Sunday, 2 July 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

batman begins didn't do good?

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 2 July 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

my expectations were so low for kate b that she exceeded them and it was actually okay!

teeny (teeny), Monday, 3 July 2006 00:19 (nineteen years ago)

my expectations were so low for kate b that she exceeded them and it was actually okay!

Yes, she was less terrible than I would have thought.

GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Monday, 3 July 2006 03:11 (nineteen years ago)

Was it just me or did James Marsden suddenly develop a personality?

Roz (Roz), Monday, 3 July 2006 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

considering this is a superman film, i'd think it'd have done better than 84 million.

gear (gear), Monday, 3 July 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

Parker Posey - awesome
Kevin Spacey - sometimes good
everything else - suuuuuuucked

Where is it written that all superhero movies must be 30-45 minutes too long? Nothing happened, the last hour was just shite writing - okay, we've got the crystals and Superman's coming back and then Kevin Spacey is going to put one in the water and then uh....

One more shot of Superman in Sisyphus-pose lifting something heavy, please! Maybe a third 'oh, gee that Kryptonite sure kicks Superman's ass, maybe he's dead!' scene.

milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 01:50 (nineteen years ago)

The new Superman is ridiculous, I think the world's greatest hero needs more gravitas than 'Sears underwear model.'


SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER

Opportunity missed: when he gives the kid his Brando speech, kiddo should have been wearing Batman jammies.

milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 01:54 (nineteen years ago)

Sisyphus? I thought that was the Atlas moment. Followed swiftly be Icarus and immediately preceded by Stations of the Cross/Death/Resurrection of Jesus (and Ascension came later).

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

Guys, I know that you're all super-indie and all but "Kumar" was a total non-entity who was completely overshadowed by the henchman with the camera and the henchman with the tattoo on the back of his head. Also, Parker Posey kind of sucked. She was the only one playing the film for camp and she came across like an idiot because of that. Conversely, Kate Bosworth was about as great as someone could be in that part. (And honestly, are you people seriously going to criticize someone's spelling skills in the Age Of The Spellchecker? Have you never read the posts made by the published writers on this board before?)


Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, yeah, the biggest problem with Lois wasn't the Bozz, it was the screenplay.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

it was both!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Spacey was really good.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, spacey was good.

i watched 2 1/2 minutes of larry king live yesterday (more than enough, thank you) and there was a moment when larry complemented spacey on his "understated performance" and spacey looked sort of flabbergasted and said, "really? i thought you could see my mugging from outer space" and larry--clearly not used to being contradicted on such a fine point--sort of stumbled around saying "oh, but such a fine performance" while spacey and singer shot glances at each other that clearly translated to "can you believe this idiot?"

also: larry asks singer "what do you think about the whole 'superman is gay' thing?" singer: "he's not." larry: "yes, but what do you THINK about it?"

it's amazing that larry keeps this up day after day and still somehow manages to pull the most high-profile guests of pretty much anyone.

anyway, the movie was pretty good, i was moved in spots, but that was partly because parts of the score (not the john williams parts) resembled copland's score to "the heiress." also because the basic lois/superman setup is touching, although i'm not sure where it was supposed to be by the end. she clearly still loves him, she bore his child--has he simply exiled himself from romance?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

bosworth struck me as not exactly being BAD, just totally neutral.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Is this the first time ever that Cyclops didn't lose the girl?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Meantime, looking at this film's prehistory, good grief.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 8 July 2006 01:14 (nineteen years ago)

this movie was boring as fuck. neither good nor bad, just there. i don't know how anyone could walk out of a screening of that saying anything other than "eh..."

gear (gear), Saturday, 8 July 2006 04:03 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think it's the fault of the filmmakers, it's not badly made. and there are two great bits (plane crash, dog eat dog). i think it might be that superman and his mythology are supremely dull.

gear (gear), Saturday, 8 July 2006 04:11 (nineteen years ago)

Krypton can't be boring! (I could be wrong. Apparently all they do all day is wear glowing suits.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 8 July 2006 07:16 (nineteen years ago)

Somewhere, perhaps in a bar in Spokane, Terence Stamp is laughing coldly.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 8 July 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

No one's discussed Eva Marie Saint much. Is her part so small?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 8 July 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

Yes. But I did have a little "yaaay eva marie saint" moment during the credits.

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Saturday, 8 July 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

I just saw it. The only thing about it that was super was he was wearing the superman costume and JOhn Williams' theme music. Other than that it was too long, too deep, too romantic, too boring, too charmless. It was superman for Diane STeele fans

Mr Jones (Mr Jones), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:32 (nineteen years ago)

Who is Diane Steele?

GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:33 (nineteen years ago)

Can one of the Spacey and/or Posey supporters please explain their position in more depth because I'm flabbergasted anyone can watch this movie and not go home and cry heartfelt emotion tears of confusion, ie WHERE'S GENE HACKMAN, GO HOME SPACEY YOU THEATRE TART. The villains are so bad. Spacey might have worked had they cast him as Brainiac, but that would've been a totally different, far more interesting script too so oh well. Chicken or the egg:casting and the script in this case. The one bit of his that wasn't cringy to me was the scene with the kid and the kryptonite.

The first half of the movie is really good (basically up until they decided to faff about spending all of their time with Luthor's nonsensical, visually-unappealling plot and Lois meandering around aimlessly)! But anyway the plane crash! The shootout! Brandon Routh and whoever played Jimmy Olsen are awesomely, awesomely casted; Routh is terrific. And I think this is the first time Marsden has been even remotely sympathetic in a film, ever.

But the second half :(

THERE IS NOT EVEN A SUPERVILLIAN MONOLOGUE! How do any of you enjoy the villiains in this movie :(

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Monday, 10 July 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

I liked Spacey's smarminess as Lex Luthor; he seemed to be playing the part with a degree of internally-driven suaveness that Hackman never had (and which better explains why people would fall into his schemes; BALDY CHARISMA). The part where Spacey is goading Lois into saying "Superman will stop you!" and he completely loses his shit in her face was just awesome (maybe a teeny tiny bit because someone was screaming in Lois Lane's face but awesome anyway).

Parker Posey was terrible, I agree; she was completely outdone by the dude with no lines and the tattoo on the back of his head.

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Monday, 10 July 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin Spacey consistently seems like The Great Thespian to me. I thought the part where he screamed in her face was awful! His whole powerpoint presentation about his stupid plot too, was that supposed to stand in for...I dunno...something? I still can't quite figure out what the hell they were trying to accomplish. Granted a whole lot of that is script, I mean this is a really poorly written movie. It has way too much needless exposition (hi do we really need to know about Lex Luthor screwing a crispy stella to get a boat? And yes we know about the kid already) and doesn't really go into explaining the villains or what they are doing...well...at all? WTF?

It's like the first half of the movie is from a completely different movie than the second half.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Monday, 10 July 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

I missed Terrence Stamp :(

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Monday, 10 July 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

spacey has several monologues, doesn't he? one to his henchmen, another to lois and superkid...

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 10 July 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

reportedly, about half an hour was cut a few weeks before opening.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 10 July 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

i decided that the problem is this movie is that it wants to earn melodrama pathos without providing for its characters a desperate-enough situation to warrant it. (i'm talking here about the lois/superman plot.)

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 10 July 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

i like that lex luthor's plans in these movies always boil down to real estate grabs

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 10 July 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

I was just reading Showcase Presents Superman Vol. 2, and there's this great "3-part novel" by Jerry Siegel (who'd recently returned to Superman after about 15 yrs) where Superman RETURNS TO KRYPTON a few years before he was born/Krypton ka-boomed, and he has a romance with a hot movie starlet. And just before Jor-El introduces them (Jor-El doesn't know that this guy WHO LOOKS JUST LIKE HIM is really his unborn son all grown up) Superman cracks, "Let me guess, her initials are L.L." which is Siegel being bitchy about how the folks who did all the major myth-building on HIS character seemed to make a mockery of shit. This is like 1960.
There's all this weird stuff in there that can only be symbollic of Siegel's frustration at not having a bigger piece of the $$$uper-Pie and his own sense of impotence (Supes himself has no powers on Krypton because of the red sun, just as Siegel probably had to bend to Super-Editor Mort Weisinger's Will of Steel).

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 10 July 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Guys I just realized that the "big surprise" (most importantly, Lois's reaction to the idea) makes no sense at all with Superman II.

I am now wishing they had made the Superman in Space movie after all, Huk OTM upthread.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Monday, 10 July 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, if they were truly interested in making a kick ass superhero movie that kids would enjoy and want to grow up to become Superman that's the direction they would have taken. But instead, they wanted to impress Roger Ebert and X-Men fans, and who cares.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 10 July 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Except Roger Ebert and, as far as I can tell, X-Men fans are pretty middling on this film, if not outright nasty towards it.

The strange concept that seems to exist in Hollywood that all comic books are liked by the same people (you know, "comic book fans") and can all receive the same treatment is going to wear itself out eventually. The treatment you give the X-Men or Spiderman is not the same treatment that will work with Superman. He's a completely different entity. That is probably why I enjoyed the first half sooooooooo much more, it had all the makings of turning into a totally fun, awesome Superman movie and instead turned into a Bryan Singer film.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Monday, 10 July 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Except Roger Ebert and, as far as I can tell, X-Men fans are pretty middling on this film, if not outright nasty towards it.

Yeah, but they were going for that, "Oh look how complicated we are!" and failed to make it engaging.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 10 July 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that's why I said The treatment you give the X-Men or Spiderman is not the same treatment that will work with Superman. He's a completely different entity. That is probably why I enjoyed the first half sooooooooo much more, it had all the makings of turning into a totally fun, awesome Superman movie and instead turned into a Bryan Singer film. I don't think it is possible to give Superman that treatment convincingly. And I don't think they should try, because he's Superman for god's sake, not Peter Parker. Superman! He is SUPER! It's in his name!

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Monday, 10 July 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

WAIT.

I'D FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE AMNESIA THING.

SUPERMAN RETURNS JUST DROPPED ABOUT 500 LEAGUES IN MY ESTIMATION

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

What amnesia thing?

mike h? (mike h.), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.ruinedendings.com/film1246ending

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

If the amnesia thing is what happened, then LL should be waaaaaaaaaaaay more confused and freaked out. If the amnesia thing didn't happen, then...LL knows Superman's secret identity, why is she pretending she doesn't??? I'm just not going to think about it too much.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

:-(

I liked this movie a lot more before that big fucking plot hole was pointed out.

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

I had an argument with a friend about whether Superman Returns was understandable to someone who never saw the first two films and knows nothing about Superman -- I thought it was, since it's reasonably self-contained and there's enough hinted-at backstory.

Now I realize that I should have argued that it's more understandable if you haven't seen the others because they had so much ridiculous crap.

taco freebie (mike h.), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

they really could have shoehorned a weird date-rape allegory in there.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

I think she should claim it's General Zod's baby.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

I liked this movie a lot more before that big fucking plot hole was pointed out.

I know! And I hadn't even really thought about it until now since it has been a while since I've seen Superman II.

GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

The kid would have been much cooler had he been Zod's.

GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

so the plot hole is simply that she would have no memory of hittin' it with superman, hence couldn't fathom why her son would be superkid?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

BINGO

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

but isn't that left a bit ambiguous in the film? i mean the new one?

i honestly don't remember, i thought the film was a bit incoherent on such points and left evidence of script revisions.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

She TELLS Superman herself (or at least it is heavily implied, since she does the whisper thing while staring at the kid and then Superman shows up to give him the Jor-el speech out of nowhere)

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

Did you check that link I posted, amst? 'Script revisions' doesn't begin to cover it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

Guys I'm ruining this movie aren't I? I really did like the first half of it a lot!

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Monday, 10 July 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

Ally's Brainiac suggestion has got me thinking that really, really would have been the way to go, and they could have set up the movie THEY DID MAKE as the sequel to that.

Superman Meets Brainiac
a treatment by Huk-L

CHAPTER ONE: THE SEARCH FOR KRYPTON!
Following the events of Superman II, astronomer Milton Fine (WINK WINK) discovers radio waves emanating from deep space in what appears to be KRYPTONIAN. Superman, feeling more alone in the universe than ever before (thanks to Phantom Zone villains dust-up and the Rho-Kryp-nolisation of Lois) sets out to discover if there might be more survivors.
After some seemingly random encounters with Space Princesses and Vartox, Superman arrives in the asteroid field created by the decimation of Krypton. Weakened by the massive Kryptonite radiation, he drifts, nearly comatose, through the cosmos.
CHAPTER TWO: THE BOTTLE CITY!
Then, his SUPER-HEARING picks up a faint trace of KRYPTONIAN radio signals. Following them, he discovers BRANIAC, who has captured the former Kryptonian capital city of Kandor and reduced it in size and placed it in a bottle.
After a shocking battle with Braniac and his SPACE MONKEY WITH KRYPTONITE VISION (WINK WINK), Superman is shrunk and confined to Kandor. Though Jor-El's crystals have given Superman knowledge of Kryptonian language and culture, he persecuted for his EARTHLINESS by the Kandorians, who, in light of being CITYNAPPED AND SHRUNK, have become understandably xenophobic. He is held as a political prisoner.
CHAPTER THREE: SUPER STIR CRAZY
After Superman and several FREEDOM-LOVING prisoners outwit the corrupt prison officials in a bizarre rodeo hoodwink (featuring the digitally manipulated ghost of Richard Pryor, WINK WINK), Superman rallies the Kandorians to rise up against Braniac!
CHAPTER FOUR: TINY TITANS TRIUMPHANT!
Superman leads an army of miniaturized Super Soldiers against Braniac. SPACEMONKEY kills a bunch of them, but eventually they win. However, in the battle, the shrink-ray-reversal-device is destroyed. The tiny Kandorians set up to create New Krypton on a baseball discovered floating through space, which is not only proportionally the size of a decent planet, but is ONE OF THE BASEBALLS YOUNG SUPERMAN THREW INTO SPACE AS A KID. They ask Superman to stay and be their leader. He declines and they build him a tiny spaceship to go back to Earth.
THE END

Then, in SUPERMANT RETURNS, Superman gets to all the things he did in the current movie, only first he has to go get unshrunk by Prof. Ray Palmer, WINK WiNK.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 10 July 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

So do Lois Lane, Superman, Perry White, etal ever allude to Zod and his Kryptonian super-villains? I mean, they did destroy Metropolis and trash the White House.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 10 July 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

No, it's like Zod never existed.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Monday, 10 July 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

In the bar, when Jimmy Olsen and Clark Kent are catching up, the bartender (who played Jimmy Olsen in the 1950s, is clearly humming the theme from "MY BOSS'S DAUGHTER", which starred Zod and Kelso on a pred shit.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 10 July 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

matthew broderick in strangers with candy was a WAY BETTER super villian than spacey!

Cor-Ray (chaki), Monday, 10 July 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

I think that the root problem with the movie is it's just not enough fun and cool. The only part that really got my inner nine-year old jumping up and down was the Shuttle disaster averted. Superman is for kids, and this wasn't a kid-style movie. Too long, too boring, too much mushy grown-up crap.

If I was to make a Superman flick, I'd make the villain Mr. Mxyzptlk and go for a wacky comedy feel. Remember how much you laughed when you first saw the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man rampaging through Manhattan? That's the vibe. Luthor can come in for a bit to be truly evil and menacing, just to raise the stakes enough for a big finale. Super can't muscle his way out, so plays them against each other and wins because he's gooder and nicer than the mean bullies, smiles and winks at the screen, then flies away. THE END

Never happen, of course.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Monday, 10 July 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

so yah can we all finally agree that singer cant direct for shit, x 1 & 2 suck and all he's really good at is ruining our childhood comic heros?

Cor-Ray (chaki), Monday, 10 July 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

I just don't understand why Singer went such a dreary route with the second act. All the rain and gloom and greyness, to build up to...? The exact same "OMG can a small plane or helicopter take off in such conditions?" thing, twice?

Also can we all just agree that the half hour that came AFTER the climax was completely unnecessary and overly drawn out and made me wanna tell Superman to get on the elf boat already and sail off? The whole hospital boo hoo thing was really unnecessary and bizarrely long.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Monday, 10 July 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

Mr. Mxyzptlk

oh wow, i forgot about that dude. they could have basically made "little man" and "superman returns" rolled into one.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 10 July 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

Also can we all just agree that the half hour that came AFTER the climax was completely unnecessary and overly drawn out and made me wanna tell Superman to get on the elf boat already and sail off? The whole hospital boo hoo thing was really unnecessary and bizarrely long.

OTM x infinity. It was just stupid.

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Monday, 10 July 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

i sort of liked some of what they were doing in the last scenes (well, the last scene, singular), but the narrative context wasn't right. i didn't feel like the movie did enough to establish their's as an impossible love, which is the only situation that would allow the last scene to attain the poignancy it was striving for. visually, i thought the last scene was well done.

some of the stuff in this film shaded toward slight parody (affectionate parody) just enough to make it interesting, without undercutting the drama. i wish they could have done that a bit more. but then i'd be expecting the richard donner film i suppose.

i liked the bird/plane line, corny though it was.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 10 July 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

Okay Huk's movie sounds AWFUL, like the cinematic equivalent of eating smegma.

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Monday, 10 July 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

STARRING ROSARIO DAWSON AS BRANIAC AND JESSICA ALBA AS SPACE MONKEY!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 10 July 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

AND CARLA GUGINO AS SUPERMAN.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 10 July 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

this movie is about as good as star wars episode 1

gear (gear), Monday, 10 July 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

The final scene was fine. They should've just tightened it up. Screw the hospital and go to the emo payoff scene.

The bird/plane line was kind of funny.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Monday, 10 July 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

to be fair this movie has gotta be better than 'lady in the water'

gear (gear), Monday, 10 July 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

What a tweest!

GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Monday, 10 July 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

Huk's smegma-flavored movie pitch has to be better than "Lady In The Water"!

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Monday, 10 July 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

with http://www.henrycruz.com/uploaded_images/larry_david-740239.jpg as Lex Luthor!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 10 July 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

interesting how the marketing for "lady in the water" has ditched that "a bedtime story by m. night shamalama" and has been selling it as a horror film.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 10 July 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

so this movie WON'T be excruciatingly adorable?!?

kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 10 July 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

Man Paulie G. is looking INTENSE.

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Monday, 10 July 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

it's the most confusing advertising campaign i've ever seen

gear (gear), Monday, 10 July 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

at least there are going to be plenty of Paul Giamatti wet t-shirt scenes. You can see his nipples!

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Monday, 10 July 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

One for the bears, then.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 July 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

WHY O WHY couldn't they have cast alicia witt in that role instead of opie's gelfling spawn

kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 10 July 2006 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

Hate to sound like a shit, but this film sorely lacked je ne sais quoi:

http://www.chrisreevehomepage.com/images/superman2/supII-zod.jpg

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 10 July 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

OTM

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

ZOD SUCKED

YEAH THAT'S RIGHT

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, now it's on.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

Zod himself was awesome (as were Gene Hackman and Ned Beatty), and the running gag with the Leaning Tower of Pisa (or wait, was that Super III?) was awesome. But COME ON, THOSE MOVIES WERE MAINLY SHITTY.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Ya better not say Superman II sucked too loudly.

http://www.x-entertainment.com/pics/su6.jpg

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

btw I hope everyone knows that by "this film" I meant the new travesty of the Superman mythos.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Of course they were mainly crap. The difference is crap + awesome villians versus crap + Kevin Spacey.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not going to be any good here, because I sincerely thought that nu-Supes wasn't crap. Supes II, OTOH, which I re-saw on TV recently, was godawful, Stamp & Beatty & Gene Gene notwithstanding.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

I've recently begun to appreciate Reeves' modest comedic talent: he's good with double takes and showed a nice sense of irony when suggesting the difficulty of being Clark Kent and Supes.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

it's the most confusing advertising campaign i've ever seen

-- gear (speed.to.roa...), July 10th, 2006.

otm, they started it off portraying it as a fairytale thing, then they started molding it into GRASSBEAST VS HOTEL PEOPLES WATCH OUT THEY CUT THE POWER THEY CAN'T CUT THE POWER THEY'RE AMINALSES MAN!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin Spacey consistently seems like The Great Thespian to me.

Fucking A, Ally. I'm waiting for the release of ACTOR: THE MOVIE starring Meryl Streep, Rob Deniro, and Kevin Spacey.

Damn, Atreyu! (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Remy, OTM. Also starring - Judi Dench, Ralph Fiennes, and Patrick Stewart.

Big Loud Ape Mountain (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

leave Picard out of this

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

I already laid into POTC2 on the relevant thread, but thought I'd chuck in my two penn'orth on this. Because, of the big summer blockbusters Superman Returns totally pwned everyhing else. Some minor spoilers I suppose:

1. Routh practically perfect in the main role. I was astonished at how well he came out of this, I went in expecting something ok and he was decidedly better than that - a real feel for the Clark/Supes split and some very elegant physicality to the flying/landing/lifting impossibly heavy stuff.

2. Supporting cast also OTM. Spacey was mean as fuck and I know he was just doing his thesp thing, but I thought it was fine. Cannot understand the Posey flack here, she was spot on and tremendously costumed throughout. Even Bosworth cut the mustard.

3. Given the length I almost wished it was longer - not a dull moment, compared to the repeated yawnfest I got in POTC2. There was probably too little of Luthor's plot and I really wondered how they'd resolve the "huge landmass off the coast" issue, so when they did in the most obvious way possible I was delighted.

4. The whole thing looked *gorgeous* - impeccable FX work and the cinematography was stunning at times - particularly liked the repeated framing to make Superman appear tiny in relation to his surroundings. These new Genesis cameras be da bomb.

5. The big set pieces were SO good. The plane/shuttle crash, the yacht rescue and the final Atlas lift - fuckin' A all round. And like a chump, when Superman fell back to earth after his final endeavour and started to glow on re-entry I felt strangely choked up. Wish there had been more of young Supes, but oh well.

Bottom line, it was huge fun and I'd watch it again tomorrow.


Bill A (Bill A), Friday, 14 July 2006 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

really enjoyed this

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 16 July 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

I am a fan.

The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Sunday, 16 July 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

hugh laurie as perry white would have been less good

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 16 July 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure how Superman lifting what is basically his home planet where he has no powers (and has already been demonstrated in the film that he loses his powers on) and throwing it straight into the stratosphere is the most obvious way possible of dealing with the issue. "Most lame" or "Most makes no sense with what happened 5 minutes ago where he had NO powers because of this land mass" I'd buy more.

I decided last night that I will never watch another Bryan Singer film.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Sunday, 16 July 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

ally, he used earth's yellow sun to recharge his powers and then his special kryptonic adrenaline allowed him to lift the thing and let go of it and it did weaken and almost kill him but he gave it his all because at the end of the day he is a nice guy

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 16 July 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

man oh man i really went in wanting to like this film, went to see it in imax and 3-D and everything, but it was just SO FUCKING BORING

btw, the imax screen revealed all sorts of flaws in the image (i was so bored, i had time to think abt the mise en scene!) - everything seemed so dark and grubby, right from that utterly lame bit at the start, w/ luthor swindling the old woman out of her money (like a rejected scene from an Addams Family sequel)

apart from bryan singer who is obv useless i also blame alex ross, the major inspiration for lots of the images in this flick

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9aB-9kYaBw

I posted this in ilovecomics already, but it needs a bigger audience. Stay for the end.

Oilyrags, Friday, 21 December 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

terrible movie

and what, Friday, 21 December 2007 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

Just saw this. I refused to see it when it came out because to me the original Superman movies are what the Star Wars movies seem to be to everyone else, and I couldn't stand them ruining it.
But, it was pretty awesome in the first half, I loved all the references to previous films and the plane crash etc. Then right after they did the crowbarred-in 'flying Lois over USA' scene it went completely downhill.
The Lex-continent should have been amazing but no-one really batted an eyelid.
Kate Bosworth pretty much made this film 10000 times worse, she looked like a 9-year-old playing dress-ups (reminded me of Jodie Foster in Bugsy).
Superman looked and sounded the part but got hardly any lines or character or anything. :(

Not the real Village People, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 11:58 (seventeen years ago)

I don't think I liked this so much in the cinema, but last night I liked it a lot. There are loads of things I like about it including

  • Superman's colourful costume
  • Superman's attractiveness
  • the grace and dignity of Superman's movement, flight etc
  • the wit and references just mentioned above
  • the villains did more for me this time around - in fact Spacey and Posey almost made me think of Merritt and Gonson, not as direct parallels but just in the atmosphere of American old-world camp
  • the whole world of Metropolis, and that great section which always seems in fact to be the best section of a superhero film, where they quickly establish how many crimes the hero is fighting and how famous he has become (here by TV screens and reports from around the world - I loved the equivalent bit in Spider-Man too)
I'm not sure the action sequences worked too well, though. To that extent I agree with the poster above, that the second half ain't that great, and the long outro with the child is pretty tedious. Hm, I am making it sound like I don't like this film after all.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 12:06 (seventeen years ago)

I still can't believe they made a Superman movie about babymama drama.

da croupier, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 12:12 (seventeen years ago)

And when he finds out the kid's his, he says "kid shit's gonna be tough" WHILE HE'S SLEEPING and then FLIES AWAY. "I'll be around." CREDITS ROLL.

Super-Federline! Doo doo-doo DOOOO!

da croupier, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 12:13 (seventeen years ago)

woops, I mean he says "kid, shit's gonna be tough" while the kid's sleeping

da croupier, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 12:14 (seventeen years ago)

"Kate Bosworth is going to be the worst Lois Lane ever."

First line in the thread says it all.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 12:26 (seventeen years ago)

"daddy why don't you live with mommy?"

"well son, after I hit it astronomers found my home planet so KAPOW I went off and kinda forgot to tell her I'd be gone for five years and when I came back she had a new man so I was sad but then she didn't know my real name so I kinda stalked her for a bit in a disguise and then you both got kidnapped so I had to step up and then told me you were mine and I was like O RLY? but like, I need to float around in space impressing movie critics with my dignity and grace and looking at Earth and shit. And that James Marsden guy is pretty nice. You'll understand when you're older and you stand for truth, justice and the American way."

da croupier, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 12:28 (seventeen years ago)

I don't think anyone's mentioned SIR RICHARD BRANSON for a while. Watching the aeroplane scene last night I thought the pilot seemed like him, then dimly remembered a story of him ... buying himself a part in the picture? And indeed Branson it was. I guess this particular double-take must already have been discussed above.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 13:47 (seventeen years ago)

I really don't know why they did have the babymama drama in this movie, it was so unnecessary and overly soapy.

Nicolars (Nicole), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 14:00 (seventeen years ago)

they aren't doing a follow up to this, are they?

akm, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 15:40 (seventeen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_(film_series)#Future

Warner Bros. is currently planning to reboot the film series. With the financial and critical success of The Dark Knight, Warners said of the reboot Superman film, "We're going to try to go dark to the extent that the character allows it."[57] Legendary Pictures president Thomas Tull said "Superman needs a powerful antagonist, a worthy opponent".[58] Tull also wants to evoke Superman as an "angry God".[59]

The People's Republic of Padgettstan (some dude), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 15:52 (seventeen years ago)

i probably wouldn't throw a "bad idea jeans" line at that if not for the fact that Brandon Routh is still attached to star in the reboot AFAIK

The People's Republic of Padgettstan (some dude), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 15:53 (seventeen years ago)

xp: If the projectionist "goes dark" enough they don't need to actually make a movie.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 15:53 (seventeen years ago)

I really don't know why they did have the babymama drama in this movie, it was so unnecessary and overly soapy

I just can't believe how many reviewers were so fascinated by a man in tights that they could ignore the implication that Superman(!) has a lower moral code than your average guest on Maury.

da croupier, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 16:02 (seventeen years ago)

Routh was fine, though hardly great. Problem was the film around him: script, direction, tone, cast, etc. "Reboot go dark" seems like a moron's response to The Dark Knight's success, but the character's durable, and I don't see how they could do any worse than Singer.

served by boot-face (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 16:05 (seventeen years ago)

hey, the sexiest moment in any of the Superman movies is when he goes bad in Superman III and flicks peanuts into mirror.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 16:06 (seventeen years ago)

Routh was charming enough in Zack & Miri Make A Porno that I am not against him being allowed to work again.

x-post Bad Superman was so awesome I'm tempted to forgive everything else about the movie

da croupier, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 16:07 (seventeen years ago)

this movie was so bad

my fingers is a jellyfish (omar little), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 16:07 (seventeen years ago)

Marlon Brando's zombie had more lines than Kal Penn, nuff said

da croupier, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 16:08 (seventeen years ago)

hey, the sexiest moment in any of the Superman movies is when he goes bad in Superman III and flicks peanuts into mirror.

― Alfred

Everybody hates S3, but horny, evil Superman was the single best thing about the first run of Superman flicks. That and Xanadu Krypton.

served by boot-face (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 16:11 (seventeen years ago)

parker posey was so bad in this

my fingers is a jellyfish (omar little), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 16:12 (seventeen years ago)

well, I admit a fondness for Nuclear Man's power to scratch Supes with long coke-snorter fingernails and give him the flue.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 16:13 (seventeen years ago)

xp yes and kevin spacey

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 16:16 (seventeen years ago)

parker posey was so bad in this

― omar little

It's true. I cringed every time she was on screen. Felt awful cuz I like her, but damn, she was unbearable. In her defense, Bosworth and Spacey were every bit as bad. Not that it helps. Did like Langella as Perry White.

served by boot-face (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 16:19 (seventeen years ago)

the sexiest moment in any of the Superman movies is when he goes bad in Superman III and flicks peanuts into mirror.

No way, Zod was much hotter than Superman.

Nicolars (Nicole), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 16:33 (seventeen years ago)

Well, if they're doing more of them they need to sort out exactly what's happening in the 'current' Superman world. What's up with the Kryptonite - in the first one if it was in a box near him it made him weak as a baby. Now a whole continent of Kryptonite doesn't affect him til he tries to use his powers and he can still fly around etc unless he has it stabbed into him. Also why didn't he lock the back door of his crystal palace if it was so bad for Luthor to nick the crystals.

Pretty sure Lois had cottoned on to the Clark/Superman thing at least once per film, although my memory is failing and I think he managed to cunningly trick her each time. Clark needs to actually do some stuff as Clark that should include making ludicrous excuses for rushing off and ripping his shirt off.

All superhero films are 'going dark', they should resist it with Superman.

Not the real Village People, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:20 (seventeen years ago)

Pretty sure Lois had cottoned on to the Clark/Superman thing at least once per film, although my memory is failing and I think he managed to cunningly trick her each time.

This was so much more tolerable before he busted her out with his super sperm

da croupier, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 18:02 (seventeen years ago)

sorry to keep bringing it up, but I can't believe that made it past the rough draft

da croupier, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 18:03 (seventeen years ago)

also, if the idea is that they knocked boots while they were a couple in II, and that he gave her the amnesia kiss without realizing his boys were floating up Lo's Lane ("your diaphragm is no match for me!" POW!), why does the kid have super-strength? If he didn't have powers, how could his sperm? The alternative explanation is that he nailed her as Superman, without ever giving away his true identity.

Srsly, fuck whoever had the superbaby idea, and fuck the umpteen producers, exec and crewmembers who never said "HOLD UP WTF."

da croupier, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 18:07 (seventeen years ago)

If he didn't have powers, how could his sperm?

Wait, why would the flashy thing take away his sperm's powers just because it took away his? I'm not taking that premise as a given!

^likes tilt-a-whirls (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 18:11 (seventeen years ago)

i just assume whatever magically made his powers disappear must have triggered the same molecular reaction in his jizz and omg fuck these slash producers for even making this conversation possible.

da croupier, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 19:08 (seventeen years ago)

three weeks pass...

NEWSFLASH

THIS MOVIE DID NOT SUCK

SLOCK1 OTM THROUGHOUT

THANK YOU

― David R. (popshots75`)

^^^^^^^^

, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 06:55 (seventeen years ago)

you people are unbelievable. someone took a poo in ur eye, you'd be all on DID NOT SUCK SLOCK1 OTM THROUGHOUT

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 07:00 (seventeen years ago)

bryan singer has made exactly one good movie imo and this is not it

shook pwns (omar little), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 07:04 (seventeen years ago)

it's weird they're thinking of rebooting this since it this basically WAS a reboot.

akm, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:16 (seventeen years ago)

150 minutes of good reasons for a re-reboot

shook pwns (omar little), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:31 (seventeen years ago)

cannot believe how bad this was! Finally saw it on TV the other day and was... um... supremely disappointed

Courtney Love's Jew Loan Officer (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 23:47 (seventeen years ago)

(yawn)

Pillboxxx/The Lol Belol (Pillbox), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 01:57 (seventeen years ago)

dig this film

Gukbe, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 01:58 (seventeen years ago)

it's weird they're thinking of rebooting this since it this basically WAS a reboot.

― akm, Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:16 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^ this is ALSO the problem with comics in 2009 imho.

ian, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 02:08 (seventeen years ago)

five years pass...

soooo...

pedo?

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 April 2014 15:53 (twelve years ago)

This is not remotely a defense of anything he might have done re assault, but the guy who's suing him was 17 at the time of the alleged attack

da croupier, Thursday, 17 April 2014 16:18 (twelve years ago)

I read 15

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 April 2014 16:18 (twelve years ago)

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/x-men-director-bryan-singer-accused-sexually-abusing-15-year-old-boy-article-1.1759389

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 April 2014 16:19 (twelve years ago)

Variety says 17

da croupier, Thursday, 17 April 2014 16:19 (twelve years ago)

Oh later in the article they mention there were earlier incidents. Weird, but yeah, never mind.

da croupier, Thursday, 17 April 2014 16:21 (twelve years ago)

http://www.avclub.com/article/x-men-director-bryan-singer-accused-drugging-and-s-203560

*Shudder*

schwantz, Thursday, 17 April 2014 19:30 (twelve years ago)

Whether or not the specific allegations are true, this whole thing touches on the worst of the late 90s: first-wave dot-com semi-hucksters living in Suge Knight's former house. This story and how it relates to this story...

That's So (Eazy), Saturday, 19 April 2014 05:03 (twelve years ago)

(Or not hucksters per se, but...)

That's So (Eazy), Saturday, 19 April 2014 05:18 (twelve years ago)

the resemblance of the story in the lawsuit to right-wing evangelicals' fantasies about Hollywood as a homosexual den of iniquity makes me really want to be able dismiss it, but i know better than to dismiss allegations of sexual abuse because they sound far-fetched to my narrow mind.

i wonder when USC will have to change the name of their film-studies program: http://cinema.usc.edu/criticalstudies/

espring (amateurist), Saturday, 19 April 2014 07:49 (twelve years ago)

The first thing I thought of when I read that was Corey Feldman's allegations from a few years ago that he and Corey Haim had been the victims of a Hollywood pedophile ring in the 1980s.

how's life, Saturday, 19 April 2014 10:41 (twelve years ago)

I guess the next series of X-Men prequels won't be called X-Boys anymore now.

StanM, Sunday, 20 April 2014 04:03 (twelve years ago)

(Or a Superboy prequel, since this is the Superman thread)

StanM, Sunday, 20 April 2014 04:12 (twelve years ago)

do you think power players in Hollywood have sex with teen boys and girls? Yes, I think they might.

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 April 2014 05:22 (twelve years ago)

I guess the next series of X-Men prequels won't be called X-Boys anymore now.

― StanM, Sunday, April 20, 2014 5:03 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

(Or a Superboy prequel, since this is the Superman thread)

― StanM, Sunday, April 20, 2014 5:12 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Good work StanM, accusations of rape are exactly the kind of topic begging for inane and unfunny punning.

it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Sunday, 20 April 2014 10:50 (twelve years ago)

Actually presumed that ws a prospective title, seemed more likely than an attempted joke

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Sunday, 20 April 2014 11:57 (twelve years ago)

Dr Morbius, equating sex w teens to rape, this thread has it all

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Sunday, 20 April 2014 11:58 (twelve years ago)

Sorry Stevie - I suggest you killfile me because that's how I post, unfortunately. Howto: KILLFILE 2.0

StanM, Sunday, 20 April 2014 12:09 (twelve years ago)

I wondered when the next celeb shakedown scandal allowing for displays of sanctimonious dickery wd pop up

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 April 2014 12:50 (twelve years ago)

I had a hunch this revival would not be about Superman.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 20 April 2014 15:04 (twelve years ago)

what made you say that

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 April 2014 15:04 (twelve years ago)

j0rdan calling out nick denton ON gawker was pretty awesome

balls, Sunday, 20 April 2014 17:34 (twelve years ago)

More lawsuits scheduled for today...

That's So (Eazy), Monday, 21 April 2014 14:58 (twelve years ago)

There a link to said j0rdan calling out?

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Monday, 21 April 2014 16:43 (twelve years ago)

http://defamer.gawker.com/the-great-big-bryan-singer-sex-party-mailbag-1564764188

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 April 2014 16:50 (twelve years ago)

Oh right. Thanks Alfred

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Monday, 21 April 2014 16:55 (twelve years ago)

damn.

how's life, Monday, 21 April 2014 17:05 (twelve years ago)

AWWWWWWWWWWWW!

it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 06:33 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

Too soon? http://www.theonion.com/articles/new-xmen-film-features-bryan-singer-traveling-back,36103/

Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 May 2014 03:16 (twelve years ago)

three months pass...

http://www.vulture.com/2014/09/michael-egan-bryan-singer-lawsuit.html?mid=facebook_vulture

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 September 2014 13:18 (eleven years ago)


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