del.icio.us - social bookmarking

if i had this thing, i'd just create a bunch of links to bestiality instead of what is actually on my bookmarks, so that everyone who googles me will find that.

Sharing bookmarks isn't that big of a deal for me, but I like being able to metatag

I have a "work" tag I used to flag links that will be handy for work:

http://del.icio.us/WIZARDISHUNGRY/work

Caitlin Hell is there too!

I think mine is "too nerdy" but some general interest gems come through every now and then. ILXORS! sign up! We will share the awesome links! MEMES! JPEGS! HELPFUL THINGS! YES DO IT!!!

Also, there are some awesome firefox plugins that put a diu tree in a folder in your bookmarks and add searchboxes for diu. So Fun! SO FUN!!!!

I shouldn't be doing resumés like this :D

But actually, I think you are thinking of a plugin that does that. But that plugin is SILLY! There is a bookmarklet that does THE SAME THING!!!

javascript:location.href='http://del.icio.us/new/WIZARDISHUNGRY?v=2&url='+encodeURIComponent(location.href)+'&title='+encodeURIComponent(document.title)

That is the code for the bookmarklet... except with your username in there instead....

i don't think i like the thing that makes tags for you, it gives you too many tags. i think i have enough already and tag making isn't that hard. i just use the "remember this" thing on my toolbar, very easy.

http://www.splintered.co.uk/experiments/68/

I want my tag cloud tattooed on my back.

http://del.icio.us/help/firefox/extension

so easy! a pop-up window shows up, where you can tag to your heart's delight.

c'est moi: http://del.icio.us/sourgrapes

WIZARDISHUNGRY's network I have 71 people in my network
WIZARDISHUNGRY's network I have 71 fans

delish 2.0 previews look so horrible :((((

i wiped my del.icio.us. totally starting over. del.icio.us/blackmailismylife

i never tag anything, too much work

pplains, if you're looking for sports sites and sad sites about abandoned neighborhoods.

i just started bookmarking again after months of not. probably won't last long, though.

tehresa is my page, of course.

oh hi forksclovetofu

I'm kinda bummed that del.icio.us 2.0 isn't out yet.

the new Delicious

http://delicious.com/

new URL, new design

No new features? Boo.

yes new features

http://blog.delicious.com/blog/2008/07/oh-happy-day.html

http://delicious.com/help/whatsnew

including:

improved search

"Our new Search allows you to not only search your own bookmarks, but virtually any context in Delicious. For example, you can now search a bundle, a tag, your Network, or another person's bookmarks from our handy search box in the header."

sorting alphabetically

1000 character limit in the notes box - far more than twitter !

---> searching my network by tag <---

This is probably the website revamp that I have the strongest personal reaction to ever.

+ve or -ve?

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This is probably the website revamp that I have the strongest personal reaction to ever.
holy shit, that's going some

Here's me:
http://delicious.com/Wiggywoo

I have no friends or fans on delicious.

:(

typical.

This is the worst redesign ever. Has anyone figured out if there is a way to revert back to the old design?

I quite like the new design, but then I never really used the old one.

Ballsiest move - phasing out that ridiculous URL.

i liked it. most urls are so booooring, so many sites can't even configure their webservers to work without the www. wonder if generic top level domains will shake things up - i doubt it.

The visual redesign is fine. It's not materially different. Main thing I'm noticing is the fact that you no longer have to wait ten seconds to get a response from the server every time you click a link.

Schachter was a real ass about the character limit in the early days. I'm glad it's been lifted.

I'm sure most of the usability problems will clear up.

This is the worst redesign ever.

This is a joke, right?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2354

guy in the comments has made this work in ff3 - brilliant extension

I moved to pinboard

How is it? I think I bought an account when they were pricing by the number of users who had already signed up but haven't really revisited it much.

little bit snappier, appreciate the concept of a "to read" thing built in, bulk editing/starring is slicker. no inbox (which i never used). social features deemphasized. nothing to do with yahoo, which is slightly more reassuring from a data security P.O.V. the guy who wrote it is a good dude.

i think that's how they are still charging for accounts. i got in on the ground floor before that started.

i am in the process of switching--is there a way to edit/delete everything under a tag? i can't see it.

* Nightly database backups to S3 (welcome, Ma.gnolia users!)
lol

bulk editing/starring is slicker

ok there must be...

xp, go to pinboard/u:you/t:yourtag, click select all (should be called star all), then click starred

kinda like starring in gmail if you're familiar with that

oh yeah, but you can't delete them all i guess

RIP!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY

http://techcrunch.com/2010/12/16/is-yahoo-shutting-down-del-icio-us/

thank god they spared notepad

looooooooooooooool

but I STILL USE THIS.

Damnit... In typical Yahoo fashion they can't be bothered to sell it off.

Just wait until they figure out what to do with Flickr.

I wonder if this had anything to do with the netgendo animated gif RSS feed being taken down.

fuck!

who now will host my repository of things that i will get round to looking at one day oh yes?

Instapaper for words, zootool for stuff and things.

Will most miss all the public tags. Searching them was a great way to find stuff, and hardly any spam or scam or shops.

delicious has been on the way out for a couple of years. i was a pinboard alpha user. didn't pay for my account and have been testing the archive feature (take's a copy of the page incase it disappears) since it started. very pleased with it. much faster. smaller community but more responsive developers. don't care about the community anyway.

zootool looks annoying and is running v slow. pinboard want my money. gone with google bookmarks for now, even tho i had to install annoying googlebar. found a handy bookmark for importing from delicious:
http://andyhitchman.github.com/DeliciousToGoogleBookmarks/

oh and there's also evernote - but 'ledge' was already taken ;_;

think i'm going to pull the trigger on a pinboard account.

this is 100% otm

http://twitter.com/PinboardIN/status/15504843552595968

also there is a 3 day period for a refund if you don't like it

the guy who runs pinboard has been doing his thing on the instapaper model since before instapaper iirc: make enough money to live on and not need investors.

this is 100% otm

http://twitter.com/PinboardIN/status/15504843552595968

in these exciting days of a gazillion free internet services, it is not quite that black and white.

http://spabba.com btw.

in these exciting days of a gazillion free internet services, it is not quite that black and white.

naturally! but what, you're suggesting every single internet service will become paid for, or die?

yes! that's the natural end point.

assume any indie service that does not take your money has the intention of selling once it has sufficient momentum, and also assume it will one day be bought by a bigger company that doesn't understand what it's buying other than a user base.

choices (1) pay (2) use whatever google offer.

or zootool evernote or spabba or whoever else steps in.

zootool or evernote

yes, but none of those currently have business models (except for evernote), so you should assume their goal (whether they know it or not) is to get bought.

also none of those are as similar to delicious as pinboard is, assuming you're looking for a delicious replacement.

spabba in particular is nothing like delicious. it's a quick python script some guy wrote yesterday to backup your current delicious bookmarks.

not surprised it's free since that's a service delicious offers.

The business model for nearly all the douches starting these services now seems to be "get acquired", so yeah, I think of the ones that don't have a fairly obvious business model at first, there's a big risk that they get sold to some clueless cretins who run them on tickover for a while and then shut them down when the pressure's on. Sites that can stand alone and support themselves have a better chance of staying on.

Flickr is massively larger than del.icio.us, but I wonder what its future is. It's been smelling of decay for a good while now. xxxp caek otm

Should have mentioned pinboard earlier: the great thing about it is that it has an API that's compatible with delicious, so it's easy for plugin makers to support it. It works with the great Delibar iPhone and Mac apps, for instance. I paid for it a while a back, and if you just want a quick new home for all your delicious stuff, that's the one to go for. (Instapaper and ZooTool are better for solving that "I'll bookmark them and forget all about them forever" problem).

xp and you can add new bookmarks. sure it doesn't have the social networking or many other features of delicious - maybe he'll add those out of the kindess of his heart, maybe not. and maybe if it becomes popular he won't be able to sustain it as a free service. who knows!

to me this isn't about not expecting shit for free, it's about yahoo choosing to run their business differently from google. that's their prerogative, but users are still entitled to get all uppity.

pinboard, instapaper and (most of) google's services will still be around in 10 years. the rest: all bets are off.

there, i said it.

I agree. I can't even imagine the fallout that will occur when Yahoo kills Flickr (I hope they'll just sell/spin it off to someone, but still)

Flickr is massively larger than del.icio.us, but I wonder what its future is

seems like the wordpress model would be a way to go here. they already offer a low-cost subscription but surely there are more premium enterprise level services they could charge top dollar to large companies for? is there no market for a third party online image cms kinda thing?

there is, but it's pretty well covered in the info management/enterprise/publishing world afaict

I loved delicious, was probably one of my top most useful websites ever. You will be missed.

Not a big deal for me otherwise since I've been cross-posting to pinboard for awhile now. I don't like it better because of the smaller community, but hopefully that will grow now.

but it's pretty well covered in the info management/enterprise/publishing world afaict
ACtually it's not really. Enterprise image asset management systems are mostly utter shit, and are all extremely expensive. We've been looking at building on the Flickr API for our in-house CMS just because the alternatives are all way lamer yet much more expensive. There's definitely a business model for them there.

ilx is my del.icio.us

Forgive me for balking at the really cheap $7.67 for pinboard (it's probably up to $9.99 by now.) It's just that I get e-mail for free, photo hosting for free, streaming music for free, even a personal phone number with text and voice mail for free. To me, it just seems that of all things to pay for, a site to host my bookmarks would be low on the list.

Every argument toward pinboard charging for its service makes perfect sense and is completely logical. Likewise, there's no place for that kind of talk on the Internet.

I pay for all those things -- MobileMe email (which I don't really use, would pay for GMail though), pay for Flickr, pay for Spotify, pay for Skype. More and more the good stuff costs.

Lot of good stuff is free though. I really think commerce is just going to have to get used to advertising and premium services to make money online. It's hard to compete otherwise when there's always going to be somebody out there giving it away.

I wouldn't be surprised if in reaction to delicious folding, a similar free site gets started in the next three months.

Anyway. Where are the tears for altavista? O, however will we translate languages for free now?

how google bookmarks all that different from delicious?

cannot sort in descending date order ;_;

as in, oldest first?

i imagine that most if not all of the features of delicious will eventually make their way into google bookmarks, esp if they're going under

newest. descending makes sense 2 me for that, perhaps i am thinking like a geek - milliseconds since epoch etc.

well in that case: it does that

? it gives me two options, title and date. latter is oldest first.

weird, that's all i've got, too, and it does newest first

... this is oldest by date added to delicious. only just imported to google so by that they're all '3 hours ago'.

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

aye. fair enough really.

so the problem is with the script, then, not google

O, however will we translate languages for free now?

translate.google.com?

whats a good sub for xmarks

Xmarks isn't going away any more.

huh, looks like there isn't a way to force any of these scripts (there's loads out there from the looks of things) to back-date the delicious bookmarks, even though the exported HTML file has the dates right there

could probably hack it just to upload them in the correct order, which i reckon would do the job.

damn now someone has actually given me something to do at work for the first time in ages.

oh duh that would make sense, wouldn't it!

Babelfish isn't going away.

I really think commerce is just going to have to get used to advertising and premium services to make money online. It's hard to compete otherwise when there's always going to be somebody out there giving it away.

Guyz, I was being all sarcastic about altavista RIP.

But then equally users would have to get used to services they love and use a lot just shutting down.

Like Google, like Facebook, like Pandora...

You think the business model that works for the two biggest websites in the world will work for every site, right down to a bookmark tracker, forever? It didn't for Geocities, or delicious, or Vox, or Compuserve, or Microsoft Live Blogs, or AOL Pictures, or Jaiku. Video, Notebook and Wave also got booted despite being part of Google. I think the web's big enough to support at least site that wants to charge $7 to new users without it being crushed by competition.

$8.24 you mean

They are piling on the new users now. Doomed.

I think it could work for smaller businesses. I work for a publishing company that puts all of its material online for free. We make our money from advertisers, subscriptions for archives, advertising specialty products for sale like spreadsheet versions of our online lists, etc. The free stuff is just there to get the customer "into the door." And according to president and the CEO of this company, we're not for sale.

Hell, let people bookmark and joining a local network of their friends could be free, but make it premium to see EVERYONE'S bookmarks.

is there an explanation of pinboards pricing model strategy, its sort of fascinating

i tried to use del.icio.us once but was just like 'whatever'

The fee is based on the formula (number of users * $0.001), so the earlier you join, the less you pay.

So on that plan, Facebook should be charging $2983 for new users to join.

wouldn't like to be on mars when dj martian finds out about this.

http://techcrunch.com/2010/12/17/yahoo-trying-to-sell-del-icio-us-not-to-shut-it-down/

great editing:

If they would have said all of this yesterday and been more responsive, then there ould not have been so much speculation.

It took Yahoo 24 hours to admit that it admit that Delicious won’t be shut down after all?

i'm sure i read sth somewhere joe, but i can't find it now. here's where it started though http://idlewords.com/2009/06/seeking_testers_for_a_bookmarking_site.htm

First, Flickr.

I am, frankly, a mixture of disappointed and sad that after Yahoo! shut down Geocities, Briefcase, Content Match, Mash, RSS Advertising, Yahoo! Live, Yahoo! 360, Yahoo! Pets, Yahoo Publisher, Yahoo! Podcasts, Yahoo! Music Store, Yahoo Photos, Yahoo! Design, Yahoo Auctions, Farechase, Yahoo Kickstart, MyWeb, WebJay, Yahoo! Directory France, Yahoo! Directory Spain, Yahoo! Directory Germany, Yahoo! Directory Italy, the enterprise business division, Inktomi, SpotM, Maven Networks, Direct Media Exchange, The All Seeing Eye, Yahoo! Tech, Paid Inclusion, Brickhouse, PayDirect, SearchMonkey, and Yahoo! Go!… there are still people out there going “Well, Yahoo certainly will never shut down Flickr, because _______________” where ______ is the sound of donkeys.

http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/2848

lol otm

http://pinboard.in/blog/173/

http://www.macworld.co.uk/business/news/index.cfm?newsid=3276614&pagtype=allchandate

The YouTube founders plan to make Delicious "easier and more fun" as well as sharpen its ability to help users manage information overload, Avos and Yahoo said on Wednesday.

Uh-ohh...

Glad it's being continued nonetheless though

There's a message at the top of the page now, saying:

"To continue using Delicious, you must agree to transfer your account information to AVOS by Friday, September 23, 2011. Click here to transfer now."

Read some mixed things about AVOS reserving the right to delete "questionable" links. Does this mean the migration will take place tomorrow then?

Or is noone here using del.icio.us anymore?

Still using.

You have previously agreed to the AVOS Terms of Service!

That's what I got too. Don't know when or how, but whatever. I've basically no choice tbh, I could not handle losing all my bookmarks and there doesn't seem to be a website doing the same but better.

yeah, I'm still on it. couldn't find a firefox ad-on that I liked as much as the delicious one.

I backed-up my bookmarks just in case.

I clicked on it and it said I had already agreed to it. Fake out.

Pinboard.in is the same but better. It's even API compatible, so all the clients etc work, and you can auto import posts from Delicious, Instapaper, google reader, twitter faces etc.

It also has an archive thing that stores copies of every page you bookmark for full-text search.

Drawback: it is way smaller, so there's not nearly as much joy in browsing public tags.

yeah, i was looking at that when the yahoo announcement came down. but nothing like the delicious firefox add on, right? i've been using that so long that it would hurt to have to give that functionality up.

I use the delicious add-on as well for chrome and its pretty handy for saving things quickly. I also tried Pinboard a month ago and its a pretty nice site as well, maybe once it gets more people on it will be more useful.

If therr's a way to edit the URL the Firefox plugin uses it will work with Pinboard.

huh. that might be a fun little project.

Anyone notice the new look?

not sure what the point of stacks is, but then i don't really use the social features.

I clicked your link, James, and it logged me out?

Anyway, don't really have an opinion about the new look. Other than that I don't like that I can't click "view all tags" on the right anymore? Annoying.

I also don't care for "stacks", nor the 'cute' image to the right. But I have so little faith in these social websites nowadays I'm actually surprised and relieved to find my links are still there.

http://delicious.com/static/img/profile/honeybadger.png

They made me into a "honey badger"

I noticed the new look because I wanted to do a bulk tag edit and discovered that I no longer could. but that feature will be back sometime I imagine.

I'm "keyboard cat" btw

http://www.delicious.com/static/img/profile/keyboardcat.png

Why aren't my tags in alphabetical order?

Oh, well. Ctrl + F did the needless work.

I really hate that I can't see all my tags on the right, it just shows a selection? Meh.

i have not been able to log in, nor will it send me my password (even though i know what it is)

My gf is having the exact same problem! Not receiving an email either.

and is there a way to see all links for a tag? seems to just be the last couple. urgh.

having firefox app syncing issues as well.

at least we have cutesy avatars.

Did you guys agree to the avos transfer? If not, they've deleted all your stuff and yr account

i agreed and my bookmarks are still there (i'd backed them up in any case) -- i just can't log in

Mookie, I asked Delicious on twitter about this, for my gf. Here's their response:

"The password reset seems to still be working for others. If you email feedback(at)avos.com, we'll do what we can."

Maybe you can try that as well?

thanks!

No problem, hope it helps!

also from that twitter, delicious is apparently 'back to beta':
http://www.avos.com/the-first-20-hours/

actually, it successfully sent a reset email today

Yeah. Is it just me not getting it or is the following strange to others as well?

If you’re not seeing all your bookmarks right now, it’s because we made a late decision to limit the amount of data we initially transferred from Yahoo!. We’ll be restoring all the data into your profile in the coming weeks.

I don't even know what that means, or why that would be a good "late decision"...

Ohhhh did it Mookie? Have to tell my gf because she still can't log in.

How do I left justify and/or view more than just 10 or so links at a time (this is using the 'tag' mode - I use this a lot to keep up with some specific IT stuff for work) - just seeing large print and scrolling and choosing next page after next page is going to drive me away ...

only one so far, but i imagine ppl will be creating styles for the new layout

lol delicous.

never used it but this might be interesting if you don't want to pay for pinboard

http://trunk.ly/

cookies for login don't seem to be working. every time i do something i need to re login. kinda annoying

Same here, Jaxon.

Problem with gf not being able to log in was solved today btw, is it working for you now as well Mookie?

yeah, everything's been fine since wed.

Ah good, I'm glad :)

Just signed up with pinboard.in. This quote says it all to me: "If you're not paying for it, then someone else is, and their interests may not be aligned with yours."

Signed,

Capitol Records.

another pinboard alt http://kippt.com/

http://trunk.ly/

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lol these guys got bought be delicious. rip.

https://twitter.com/#!/Pinboard/status/183407110002974721

http://fetching.io/

what do we make of this

i'm kinda into the idea but it also kinda gave me the ph34r so i didnt bother

this sounds horrible

I was all "noooooo" too, but the local version could be well handy.