RIP Terri Schiavo

Seriously, who's going to be America's favorite bulimic now? Mischa Barton? Anna Nicole? That one Olsen twin?

*whichever one it is.

xpost - good job you're reading the threads and monitoring their progress, then.

I THINK THEY SHOULD ALSO PUT HER FACE ON CNN MORE

Because her parents would have been trying to keep her alive when M. Schiavo has been arguing that she *didn't* want to be kept alive -- and he is her legal guardian.

because he says she explicitly stated while alive a desire to not be kept alive and he was abiding by her wishes.

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Also, maybe she hated her parents. They sound like religious fanatics, maybe she wasn't religious at all?

And that's where I get off.

YEAH I'M POSTING THIS ANYWAY.

What Ned & Kyle said, OR - because he wanted her "out of the way" so he could drink milk right out of the carton withough getting "that look" that she always gave him.

"We conclude that the intelligence community was dead wrong in almost all of its prewar judgments about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction," said a letter from the commission to President Bush. "This was a major intelligence failure."

The panel -- called the Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction -- formally presents its report to Bush on Thursday morning.

An October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate warned that Iraq was pursuing weapons of mass destruction, had reconstituted its nuclear weapon program and had biological and chemical weapons.

The Bush administration used those conclusions as part of its argument for the March 2003 invasion of Iraq.

But the Iraq Survey Group -- set up to look for weapons of mass destruction or evidence of them in the country -- issued a final report saying it saw no weapons or no evidence that Iraq was trying to reconstitute them.

The commission's report said the principal cause of the intelligence failures was the intelligence community's "inability to collect good information about Iraq's WMD programs, serious errors in analyzing what information it could gather and a failure to make clear just how much of its analysis was based on assumptions rather than good evidence."

"The single most prominent a recurring theme" of its recommendations is "stronger and more centralized management of the intelligence community, and, in general, the creation of a genuinely integrated community, instead of a loose confederation of independent agencies."

Bush appointed the nine-member commission led by Laurence Silberman, a senior federal appellate court judge who also served in the Nixon and Ford administrations, and former Sen. and Virginia Gov. Chuck Robb, a Democrat.

Bush released a statement saying, "I would like to extend my deepest sympathies to the family of Terri Schiavo."

Norm Olson: Parents' lawyer thwarted plan to send militias to aid Terri Schiavo

BY FRED GRAY NEWS-REVIEW STAFF WRITER
Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:39 PM EST

Norm Olson, senior adviser to the Michigan militia and pastor of a strong right-to-life church in Wolverine, said Tuesday he had put together an unarmed coalition of state militias that were prepared to storm the Florida hospice where Terri Schiavo has been left to die, and take her to a safe house.

Olson said he needed only the OK from Schiavo's father, Robert Schindler, either directly or through his attorney David Gibbs, to put the plan, called "Operation Resurrection," into action on Sunday.

But Olson said Gibbs contacted the FBI instead of passing his message on to Schindler.

Olson said the FBI had been monitoring e-mails within militia groups and on Tuesday, March 29, sent an agent from Traverse City to his home in Alanson and other agents to militia leaders in the South to question them about the plan.

The FBI was unavailable for comment.

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Gibbs probably told the Schindlers not to get the militia involved. That's why Schindler came out with statement that he did not want any civil disobedience. Now they're begging for someone to do something, but it's too late," Olson said.

Olson said the militias needed time to arrange for an ambulance, medical support staff and a safe house before the plan could be put into action.

"We would have overwhelmed the local law enforcement," Olson said, adding the militias would not have been armed.

Olson said the other reason for the plan was to put Florida Republican Gov. Jeb Bush, the brother of the U.S. president, on the spot.

"He would have had to send in state police or the National Guard to turn us away," Olson said. "None of us believe that he is helpless. He is the chief officer of the state and has the power of executive clemency. (Jeb) Bush was a liar when he said he couldn't do it. He knows his office has to represent the people. And judges have to know they are not infallible. All this was thwarted by Gibbs."

He said the march to the hospice would have been similar to the massive March on Washington led by Martin Luther King in 1963.

"We were just going to push people out of the way. It was the mood and the heartbeat of America," he said.

"In reality there are four branches of government in America, and we the people are the fourth. That's what our march was going to do: Show the American people that we were still in control."

"We the people are the final judges, not the black-robed demons. I do not believe that 70 percent of the American people thought it was wrong for government to get involved. They turned around when they believed Terri Schiavo's was a lost cause and wanted to be on the winning side."

"America has lost hope because, where there's life there's hope, but it is the black-robed devils who are deciding who lives and dies."

"We should all err on the side of life, whether it's an unborn American or someone facing the end of life. The feeding tube is like an umbilical cord or premature babies in an ICU (intensive care unit).

"The case of Terri Schiavo is tragic, macabre, dark and evil," Olson said.

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[quoting from his emails]

"A large scale military assault need not be bloody. As much as we might like to, care must be taken to avoid inflicting injury on the bad guys."

"I'm at a total loss as to what to do. Unless the parents ask for our help, we would be walking into a disaster... I can imagine that the pacifists (spineless Christians and others) would actually oppose OUR effort to save Terri, saying that civil disobedience is against God's Will..."

"Without the Schlinders' clear and decisive call to the militia, we would be faced with civilians who would oppose us for resorting to civil disobedience to free Terri. As much as I would want to try, it is a mission impossible. There is just no workable plan."

once again, if you feel you have God on your side, then the ends obviously justify the means. you are doing the Good Work, so why would it matter that people get hurt in the process, or, say, you eliminate certain pesky civil rights, torture a few (hundred) folks, or throw a election or two?

Similarly, my walk to the bus stop this evening will resemble Christ's walk to Calvary. Er, wait.

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You should never feel bad about thinking of someone with "penis" in their name.

yeah, exactly. funny how most folks seemed to miss this point.

....

actually, funny how they seemed to miss about 5/6 of the points, really.

half its expected size.

Terri Schiavo autopsy results are finally released, and guess what...

oh joy

(I'm going to hell.)

Why do I get the feeling he doesn't really mean it? Mandatory federal review of state death penalty cases, Rick? Really? Oh, I know I'm such a parser. i parse, i parse!

You clearly do not understand the situation. It does not matter that she would never, ever, ever, ever, ever have improved one bit, and would only have died with 23% of her brain matter instead of 47%. What matterS is that Jesus loves you. CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT???

In a parellel universe.

It seems what we learned today is that she was clearly in a very bad way and that, in fact, she was not going to get better—something there were questions about.

In a parellel universe.

Oh, naive! Don't believe it. All law is results oriented no matter anybody says.

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Jeb makes a bid to redeem himself in Wingnuttia and set the stage for Bush III 2008.

...Michael Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, did not immediately return a telephone call seeking comment from The Associated Press. But on Wednesday he said his client didn't wait to call for help. He said his client has conceded that he confuses dates and times.

Felos has said that if Michael Schiavo had not called 911 immediately, as Bush and others allege, Terri Schiavo would have died that day.

"There is no hour gap or other gap to the point Michael heard Terri fall and called 911," Felos said. "We've seen the baseless allegations in this case fall by the wayside one by one ... That's what I would call it, a baseless claim to perpetuate a controversy that in fact doesn't exist..."

A pulse was documented at 6:32 a.m. and a measurable systolic blood pressure at 6:46 a.m. Getting those vital signs back after such a long time was an accomplishment, Rojiani said. When asked if Schiavo could have been revived if her heart had stopped more than an hour before paramedics arrived, he said he didn't think so.

That's funny, Shakey, 'cause to me he seems complacent, smug, self-righteous and too stubborn to acknowledge his fears.

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well yeah, can't argue with that. But being rich/comfortable /= happy, of course. "so hard to find/one rich man in ten with a satisfied mind", etc.

so he can do the Dubya '04 thing again, and thump his chest about how he's in the Culture of Life and doing God's Work and shit.

But he does that regardless of whether he's happy or sad.

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By RON WORD, Associated Press Writer
Wed Jun 22, 3:51 PM ET

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - Randall Terry, who founded the militant anti-abortion group Operation Rescue and helped lead the effort to reinsert Terri Schiavo's feeding tube, announced Wednesday he is running for the state Senate, setting the stage for a GOP primary in which Schiavo could be the central issue.

Terry will face state Sen. Jim King, one of nine Republicans who sided with the Democrats to block a bill aimed at keeping Schiavo alive. The primary will be in 2006.

Terry said King no longer represents the Republican base.

"The Terri Schiavo matter was unforgivable to many of the Republican loyalists," said Terry, 46. He also said King's appointment of Democrats to key positions in the Senate and his call for higher caps on medical-malpractice verdicts alienated voters.

In a telephone interview, King countered: "I've been a real Republican all my adult life. I was not a convert. I'm a fiscal conservative and moderate on social issues. My success and voting record would indicate I'm pretty much where much of Florida is."

King has served in the Legislature since 1986 and was Senate president in 2003 and 2004. The district stretches from Jacksonville to northern Volusia County.

Terry, who has lived in nearby Ponte Vedra Beach for two years, lost a 1998 primary bid for Congress in New York. Terry has said he has been arrested 40 times for his anti-abortion protests.

He again came to the forefront during the fight to keep Schiavo alive. She died March 31 after her feeding was removed in a bitter dispute between her husband and her parents. Terry was a spokesman for her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler.

King said he drafted Terri's Law, which was approved by the Legislature in 2003 and led to the reinsertion of feeding tube only to later be tossed by the courts.

But in helping another bill to keep her alive in March, King said: "To be kept alive artificially above and beyond your wishes and the wishes you expressed to your family — that is cruel and unusual punishment."

He once called his 2003 vote to reinsert the tube "probably one of the worst votes that I've ever done."

IT WILL NEVER END, as long as wingnuts can use this all for political gain.

This place has fucking lost its mind.

KEEPING YOUR PROMISES. WHAT A CONCEPT.

Everytime I read about his promise, I think, "EVITA!"

Gov. Jeb Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry
By DAVID ROYSE, Associated Press Writer
Fri Jul 8, 4:19 AM ET

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - Gov. Jeb Bush has declared an end to the state's inquiry into Terri Schiavo's collapse 15 years ago, after Florida's state attorney said there was no evidence that criminal activity was involved.

Bush had asked State Attorney Bernie McCabe to investigate Schiavo's case after her autopsy last month. He said he now considers the state's involvement with the matter finished.

"Based on your conclusions, I will follow your recommendation that the inquiry by the state be closed," Bush said in a two-sentence letter.

In asking McCabe to look again into how Schiavo slipped into a persistent vegetative state, Bush had cited an alleged gap between when Schiavo's husband Michael found her and when he called 911. The governor had said the issue remained unsettled.

McCabe said, however, that while such discrepancies may exist in the record, Schiavo's statements that he called 911 immediately had been consistent.

"This consistency, coupled with the varying recollections of the precise time offered by other interested parties, lead me to the conclusion that such discrepancies are not indicative of criminal activity," McCabe wrote in a letter to Bush accompanying his report.

The report was dated June 30, but not released until Thursday.

The bitter right-to-die case engulfed the courts, Congress and White House, and divided the country.

Terri Schiavo died March 31 from dehydration after her feeding tube was disconnected despite efforts by Bush, her parents and some state national lawmakers to keep her alive.

Michael Schiavo had fought to have the tube disconnected, saying his wife wouldn't have wanted to be kept alive artificially.

The autopsy left unanswered the question of why Terri Schiavo's temporarily heart stopped, cutting off oxygen to her brain. A medical examiner was unable to determine with reasonable certainty a "manner of death."

McCabe said there must be some fact or evidence indicating a criminal act caused the death to open a full homicide investigation. He said the review revealed none.

He added that the most likely cause of Schiavo's collapse remains the one already advanced — an eating disorder...

So, i guess this ends things, until people start seeing Visions of Terri appear in clouds, on pizzas, and in rust spots on '72 Chevelles.

Time flies.

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jeez.