LIVE INTERACTIVE ELECTION 2005 COVERAGE THREAD

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The mayor of Sunderland gets on it:

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― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

The exchanges go:

Labour: 358
Tory: 194
Lib Dems: 62

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sorry, was that the standing before the election or the prediction for right now?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Lib Dems reckon that they have Eastbourne. Toploader Country.

Ned - that's what the betting exchanges are predicting.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Dom, what's the thinking behind why the postal vote would increase Labour's majority? I can see that the increase in the postal vote would make the exit poll more unreliable, but can't see why it would go in Labour's favour.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

It's the live updated betting exchanges on Spreadfire at this moment. Apparently they accurated forecasted 49 of 50 states in the US elections, so it's probably our best guide at the moment.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

That was just a guess Keef, but

a) Labour have really hammered the postal votes this election
b) I tend to associate postal votes with OAPs in working class areas. The old "Labour thick or thin" electorate.

But, yeah, that's just a guess. It's definitely a wild card for the whole thing.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

It will be interesting to see how much non-uniform swing is a factor when comparing overall percentages and actual outcomes.

Keef: because the biggest postal vote-rigging scandal so far was a Labour-organised one?

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Who will be first to declare Sunderland South or Torbay or somewhere else ?

Torbay normally draft in bank workers to count, as they have skills in counting accurately and fast.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

OK cheers Dom... Makes sense.

Interesting the lack of increase for the Lib Dems... I find that fairly surprising given the number of people this time that claim to want to vote for them. It's felt like the most for years.

Caitlin, I must've missed the big postal vote rigging thing.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

It was for Birmingham council seats, I think; the local party organisation was heavily implicated in organised ballot fraud.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

looks like Sunderland South - they have got systems in place to be first

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

So it seems to be a big movement by Lib Dem onto Labour territory, which has no effect because there are so few Lib/Lab marginals, whilst there's a smaller march by the Tories on Lib Dem territory, where there are a lot of marginals. Basically the LDs are winning with one hand and losing with the other.

The Lib Dems are claiming Birmingham Perry Barr.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Who will be first to declare Sunderland South or Torbay or somewhere else ?

Sunderland South are trying to beat their previous record - if they do, they'll be declaring in the next 10 minutes.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

We could have a quick game of ranking the Peter Snow gimmicks while we wait. The Election Battleground Triangle would probably be slightly behind the William Hague Magic Steps.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the graphical gimmicks, but the sound effects that go with them are already starting to grate.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Upcoming Peter Snow gimmick: Grand Theft Auto: Thanet South

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Perry Barr is currently a 23% Labour majority, so if the Lib Dems are right... crumbs.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Last year's Sunderland South results

LAB 63.88%
CON 20.05%
LD 11.78%

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Useful links: as results coming in during the right:

Lib Dem Target Seats
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/html/gainsandlosses_ld.stm

Tory Target Seats
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/html/gainsandlosses_con.stm

New Labour Defence and Target Seats
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/html/gainsandlosses_lab.stm

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

do you mean 2001's results?

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Lib's confident in a part of Birmingham? A city? An industrial city? This is going to be a fun night. I don't think Lib's will do too well but it bodes well for some surprises.

― A / F#m / Bm / D (Lynskey), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

LDs have made big moves into city local governments in the past 10 years, so that wouldn't be *too* surprising. They took Sheffield city council a few years ago.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"Last election's", sorry.

Lib Dem's are also confident in Birmingham Yardley.

Which Brum constituency has the student population?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Sunderland South turnout up to 49.9%

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

HERE WE GO....

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh god, I should know about Brum. I think it's Edgbaston. In fact, it must be.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Sunderland South declaring...

The result is WORSE for Labour than the exit poll, apparently

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

BNP: 1,166
LD: 4,492
LAB: 17,982
CON: 6,923
MRLP: 149

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Serious swing towards the monster raving loonies.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories up 700 seats, Lib Dem's up 800, Labour down 2,000.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Lab 59% -5
Con 22% +2
LD 15% +3

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

1-0 to Labour.

― The Horse of Babylon's Butler (the pirate king), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

The Tories are going to break 200 seats, aren't they?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i predicted only 40-50 more Tory seats, so yes that would put them just over 200

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Yup, Dom. Always thought they would though. It's a night for looking for the bonkers unpredictable ones. It's also the night for having a nice bottle of 99 reserve rioja.

― A / F#m / Bm / D (Lynskey), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Looks like it. And that means more Howard, at least for a few years.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

The exchanges call it:

Labour: 357
Con: 200
LD: 64

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Michael Foot's Labour low-point in 83 was just 209 seats. Hopefully the Tories won't beat that.

― The Horse of Babylon's Butler (the pirate king), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Lynskey - good point. I'm going to make a jug of pink grapefruit squash.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

It's pretty nervy tonight... Not been like this since '92.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going for coffee-with-added-Kahlua myself

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

HoBB- I'm pretty sure that 209 is the target Howard has in his head.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm drinking Bourbon and Branch, because I've got no Coke to mix with it.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

1992 - what was the tory majority something like 40?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, no I'm not, because they're having a row in the kitchen.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Look, we have no news! Let's paint on a sheet of cloth!

Neil Buchanan: political revolutionary.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

What was the total number of seats in '83?

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

LIZO MZIMBA IS DOING ELECTION COVERAGE!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

LIZO! OFF NEWSROUND! ON GROWN UP NEWS!

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Whilst he's talking, the ticker underneath should read "An election is held every four or five years. Who would you vote for?"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

LIZO'S IN A SUIT! It looks quite good on him, too.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

In history at school there were 653 I think? That would've been about '87 thought; probably not much difference.

Here's the detail about the '92 election:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/vote2001/in_depth/election_battles/1992_results.stm

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

A Volvo is holding up progress in Barnsley Central!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

650 seats in 1983 it turns out.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

HoBB- I'm pretty sure that 209 is the target Howard has in his head.
-- Dom Passantino (juror...), May 5th, 2005 10:53 PM. (later)

HoBB? I like that. I'm changing my name.

― The Horse of Babylon's Butler (the pirate king), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

LIZO! OFF NEWSROUND! ON GROWN UP NEWS!

He's going for the Krishnan Guru-Murthy career path, then.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour worried that George Galloway's "Get Rid of the Yid" campaign in Bethnal Green and Bow may have worked.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Was his campaign really as anti-semitic as some people described it? Was it a case of him only ramping up the anti-semitism with the Muslim electors?

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

"In Cleethorpes things are very tight" - and a big BNP vote in Grimsby. Don't I live in a lovely area.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

He's going for the Krishnan Guru-Murthy career path, then.

He's got better glasses. Big, chunky things. Lovely.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

It's tiny faced future fallguy Ruth Kelly! Most vulnerable Labour minister.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

First Ruth Kelly sighting of the evening. It's Tracey Thorne she reminds me of, isn't it? I think.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder how soon tonight will get a Portillo moment i.e either a high profile Tory or New Labour candidate losing their seat.

Oliver Letwin ?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes... Fingers crossed for Oliver Letwin.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I look forward to moments at declaration, when you get hecklers shouting at the BNP.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Possibly David Davis too, although the local news recently has said he's probably safe.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Shirley Williams reckons Lib Dems will take Cardiff Central - that'd be overturning a 1.9% Labour majority if so.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Michael Howard is vulnerable!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I want another declaration! I'm at work and relying on ilx for my election coverage tonight.

― beanz (beanz), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

The press were making a lot of the Lib Dem's "decapitation" strategy recently - deliberately going for Howard, Letwin and Davis rather than more marginal seats. I'm not convinced it's going to work, though.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Note for people - the BBC coverage is broadcasting live on the internet: http://www.bbc.co.uk/election

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you thinking what I am thinking ? Strategic Lib Dem vote ousts Howard - how sweet would that be?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't want BBC want ilx. xpost

― beanz (beanz), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

If the Lib Dems do throw a punk card at Howard, I'm gonna wake the whole street up screaming.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

BBC were talking down the possibility of Folkestone coup earlier in the night, cos they aren't keen on what the Lib Dems did locally there for some reason.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

That would be very funny. That would beat the Portillo incident.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

What would be even more shocking: if the anti-war independant in Sedgefield manages to beat TB.

Does anyone think Jack Straw will get beaten by that independant ex-ambassador chap?

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Reg Keys should break at least 5,000 votes in Sedgefield.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

There's two people called Sian Lloyd on telly. What are the odds, etc.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

It's this seat in Wales where the independant is going to overturn a 19,000 majority that I'm interested in.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

If Howard was out, that would be FUCKING MAGNIFICENT. Scupper any talk of a Tory revival, which frankly doesn't seem to be the case.

They are only picking up due to Labour's fall in support, not to any great increase in theirs. Although, disappointing to see them up marginally - *though only by about the same as in 2001* - in my own constituency, which is indeed Sunderland South. And yes, I was one of many to increase the LibDem vote there, but admittedly I voted for them in 2001 too!

An exciting night is in store... though one cannot sit back with any certainty that surprises will all pleasant.

― Tom May (Tom May), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Rageh Omah's at Bethnal Green, shows how rough it could be.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there any talk about who might possibly take Bethnal Green from Oona King? Galloway or the Tory? Is it actually likely to be a three-way contest?

― Tom May (Tom May), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

is that loony TV contest winner running in Folkestone?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know much about that one (in Wales), but from what I've heard it sounds like what happened in Falkirk a few years ago - sitting member deselected, stands as independant, wins massively.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Sunderland North declaring...

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

"There's some famous figures there... Iain Duncan-Smith..."

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Sunderland North is about to be returned.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Con 5724
Lab 15719
Ind 2057
BNP 1136
LD 4277

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Are these Lab to Lib protest votes going to translate into the important seats? Or are people just vote Lib Dem when they think its "safe" to?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, Dennis Canavan is Falkirk (was West's) MP. But he had been for years and was well known locally... Used to be a headteacher.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Lab 54% -9
Con 20% +2
LD 15% +3

another 5% Lab-to-Con swing - but then again, it is the next-door seat to the previous one

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

The exchanges are getting very twitchy. Money isn't settling at all.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

All that's happening so far is that there are swings in safe labour seats... Is that likely to be reproduced across the country?

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

do the exchanges do spread betting on the outcome?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

it sounds like what happened in Falkirk a few years ago - sitting member deselected, stands as independant, wins massively

Something like that happened in Coventry in 92. Can't remember his name, but the Labour MP got sent to prison (or something) for not paying his poll tax. He got deselected, stood as an independent, and got about 20,000 votes, but very narrowly lost.

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Have a look Martian:

https://cantor.spreadfair.com:443/

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

If you listen to the pundits, probably not - they are mostly saying that there will be big variations in swing from seat to seat.

(will this mean that tactical voting has reached a critical mass?)

Houghton & Washington E declaring...

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour to win with a majority of 77. I'm calling it. The initial jitters are just that.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Blairite Twigg maybe in trouble in Enfield Southgate

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

That is the question... you must remember Labour have put far more resources into targeting the marginals. Yes, so have the Tories... but I would doubt that they will all be 5% swings, indeed.

2001: Sunderland South 3.2% swing to CON.
2005: Sunderland South 3.85% swing to CON.

This hardly suggests that it's game up for Labour.

― Tom May (Tom May), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Twigg would be a good scalp for the Tories, considering he is one of the faces of Blairitism.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Is the swing in seats where everyone knows Labour are going to get in really reliable in the slightest? The first marginal will be interesting...

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Houghton & Washington East:

Lab -9%
Con -1%
LD +6%

Swing: 7% Lab to LD

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

John Reed creeps me out.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Paxman and Reid are being quite matey, aren't they?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost - I quite like him...

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Houghton & Washington East - LIZO COUNTRY.

x-post - I sort of do too, a bit.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Boris Johnson! lol!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

BORIS JOHNSON! CLASSIC!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Reid looks rather like your stereotypical Glasgow gangster. Pointless trivia: he has a PhD in the history of the slave trade in Dahomey.

Is Boris *deliberately* rocking the through-a-hedge-backwards look?

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Matt, yeah that's what I've been thinking. People will be much less cavalier with their voting in a seat where voting Lib Dem might let in one of the other candidates rather than producing a Lib Dem MP.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

what a clown he is !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Look at his hair ! like a blonde scarecrow

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Has Bojo been drinking?

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Lib Dems reckon that they have Eastbourne. Toploader Country.

TOPLOADER COUNTRY!!! thats my bit of the country though not my borough. I mean I worked there all summer and the bus goes there and whatever, remember Easyworld are from Eastbourne as well, oh you don't remember Easyworld? well um me neither as it goes...

― elwisty (elwisty), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I fucking hate John Reid. He typifies that kind of politician that never answers a question, and always spins out the line. What was that about "if the results are as good as your suggesting we'll have done better than Thatcher"? That's not true, is it? I haven't got the figures, but I'm pretty sure the Tory majority in 1987 was bigger than 66.

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Baroness Williams still has a few jabs in her.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooh, good Falconer/Hislop row brewing there

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I forgot that Lord Falconer had responsibility for the Millennium Dome!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Bunfight!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Baroness Williams "I've got it here in my handbag" = awesome.

Complete squabbling mayhem descending here. Paxo is losing it.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"you'll have to learn to control these things, Jeremy" - hahaha!

(i am laughing at Dimbleby jokes = i am getting old)

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

150 majority in 1987 for the Conservatives

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

What's going on with all these NuLab MPs and their red and yellow rosettes?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Presumably when Reid said "we're doing better than Thatcher" it was a spin on "Howard is doing worse than Foot"

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

(is anyone actually watching ITV or Channel 5/Sky?)

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

That is a VERY flattering photo of Charles Clarke. At least 10 years old. Like the signed one of Barry Evans I have in my front room.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Channel 5 is showing the election?!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

in the year 2013 there will a new rule - no ID card, no vote - all votes done by IT, outsourced to a private consortium like Camelot.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Can anyone at all see this decapitation stratergy working?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I just flicked over and saw Freddie Starr going "yeah... I was a sperm donor"

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Barry Evans??? From Eastenders?

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

yes in the marginals.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Channel 5 is showing the election?!

Keeps Charlie Stayt off the streets, presumably. Also, five news is a Sky News production now, isn't it? So presumably they'd want some terrestrial coverage of the election.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Channel 5 is going to simulcast Sky News later in the night.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I was thinking how odd this 'decapitation strategy' is. What purpose does it server other than giving us all a laff? I mean, that's a good thing, but I can't see how it helps the Lib Dems.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Everyone got very excited after seeing Portillo lose his seat in 97. If Letwin etc do lose their seat, all they'll do is wait for another one to die. Probably in about six months time...

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Margaret Gilmore looks like Steve Coogan in drag.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Are there still any Tories left over from '97 who are in the safe-seat waiting list? I know Rifkind is getting back in at this election - are there any others left?

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Dorset West should declare at 3:00am. There is a UKIP candidate there, so tactical voting may not even have to play a part for Letwin to get jacked.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Portillo's face then was an utter picture of shock !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, it's funny, cause Malcolm Rifkind in the same situation in '97 or 2001, can't remember which was quite funny, he just laughed it off... Did quite well I thought.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Hah, there were almost two David Davises on the Haltemprice and Howden ballot.

(I have visited both recently. Howden is a nice little market town, near Selby. Haltemprice is a rather dingy suburb of Hull.)

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Best in show on Channel 4, seems quite apt.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't see *why* Portillo was so shocked when the result was declared, either, because for hours beforehand the BBC had been saying that it looked like he was in trouble going by the size of the stacks of ballot papers - he must have known that just as clearly as the BBC did.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

The King's Head in Islington! I've been there! It's rub.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Was Portillo in 1992 or 1997? I can't remember... Just that Chris Patten lost his in 1992.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

That girl in the stripey top- I'd hit it.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the King's Head cameraman is deliberately focusing the camera badly, to give you that authentic pub "had a couple of drinks but i'm still sober honest" feeling.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Portillo was 97.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Keighley vote delayed due to postal vote rowing (read: the BNP are kicking up a fuss).

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Keighley delayed due to "security issues" - the BNP causing trouble???

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Jack Straw is properly cacking it.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Another big swing to Liberals at Rutherglen.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Dom OTM in his penultimate post.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Rutherglen & Hamilton West

Lab 56% -4
SNP 14% -2
LD 18% +7
Con 8% +0

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Snow getting excited

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Interesting that Lib Dems are stealing votes from the SNP too.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Ken Clarke- spitting flames!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Ken Clarke... He smokes a pipe.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes - especially when you bear in mind that as far as Scotland's concerned it's a governing party taking votes from the main opposition.

(xpost)

Favourite Paxo moment so far: "Steady on! It's Kenneth Clark!"

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Snow getting excited but will he be able to sustain his election all night?

― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha!

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Exchanges go:

Labour: 354
Conservative: 203
Lib Dem: 65

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Snow probably took viagra to last the night !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Lib Dem's now claiming Wood Green.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

At least it looks like turnout is up on the last election - presumably a sign that not everyone's being as apathetic as people were worried.

(maybe those annoying Timothy Spall TV ads have *worked*)

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

K-K-K-K-Kilroy!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I liked the statement from UKIP that they weren't bothered that they didn't have Kilroy-Silk any more, because they had Rustie Lee!

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Get in there Featherstone to knock out New Labour Roche ! bring it on...

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Lib Dem's claiming Newcastle Central! Wtf?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

But do they still have Joan Collins?

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

First mention of Hornsey & Wood Green...

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

John Culshaw- donde esta la funnee?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I still think that Lib Dems are going to pick more seats up than the pundits and spreadbetters are predicting.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold Barnsley Central

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Barnsley Central:

Lab 61% -9
Con 13% 0
LD 17% +2

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Interesting that one too... Not much of a gain by the Lib Dems... Who got the votes?

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

BNP unfortunately.

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

The BNP, largely - although they still lost their deposit

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Two first-time candidates, BNP & Independent.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Hull W & Hessle:

Lab 55% -3
Con 21% 0
LD 21% +6

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

They're starting to come in now.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

8 in - Labour holds Rotherham, Hull West & Hessle, and Vauxhall.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

BNP saves deposit in Rotherham.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes - I'm going to stop typing in all the percentages, I think.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)

The BNP are going to retain their deposits in far far too many seats.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)

The BNP are having a worryingly good night, it seems.

― Venga (Venga), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

It's basically swings to the Lib Dems all over, of between 5 and 7 percent, I think.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Here comes Putney...

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

First marginal of the night: Putney.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

First swing!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Con gain Putney

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Although it's good that it appears to be the Lib Dems who are mostly benefitting from Blair's post-Iraq shoeing and not the Tories. Who in their right mind wants Howard to lead the country?

― Venga (Venga), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

BNP manifesto was barking mad ! National service, Gun ownership, income tax scrapped and replaced with consumption tax etc

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Con gain Putney due to Lib Dem votes by the looks of it.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

ONe other note - UKIP are having a rough night of it thus far.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Looks like Blair's 1 in 10 nightmare is coming true.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

sexy tory

― Masked Gazza, Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Putney was bad.

― Venga (Venga), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Putney scores:

Justine Greening Conservative 15,497 42.4% +4.0
Tony Colman Labour 13,731 37.5% -9.0
Jeremy Ambache Liberal Democrat 5,965 16.3% +2.7
Keith Magnum Green 993 2.7% +2.7
Anthony Gahan UK Independence Party 388 1.1% +0.1

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Posh Sloaney Tory Woman in Putney

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's Newcastle Central...

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Well done to the green candidate, who was sporting a cutaway collar and a Windsor knot, something normally only spotted on tories!

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold, but an 11% swing to the Lib Dems.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

BNP manifesto was barking mad ! National service, Gun ownership, income tax scrapped and replaced with consumption tax etc

And people in my home town have voted for it! Hurrah!

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold Newcastles Central and East, and Tyne Bridge, but further swings to Lib Dems.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Consumption tax!?

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

This might be a pretty frightening night all in all.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

It's hotting up. Now we start getting a better picture. The wine is still very, very good.

― A / F#m / Bm / D (Lynskey), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Surely that would just encourage everyone to spend no money ever. I am not v.knowedgable abt economics but that would be bad right?

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour majority in the high 50s by the looks of it at the moment.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Consumption tax!?

Is that the same as the tuberculosis tax?

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

BNP - would use the "National Service" workforce for their racist and fascist regime

Consumption Tax - is like VAT but not on essential goods, such as Food.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Umm, but... oh, never mind.

You guys are much better than the Radio 4 coverage! Thanks. The BBC election weblog is feeble too. I'm almost beginning to miss Peter Snow's ridiculous new toys here. Any good dialup-friendly places to look online for coverage?

― Rebecca (reb), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour holds Eccles, Lanark & Hamilton East, and Newcastle North.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

British politics has been shifting inexorably rightwards for the last 30 years or so, and this election looks like the clearest reflection yet of that. The Lib Dems are represented as a left-wing alternative to Labour, ffs. Left wing they are not.

― Venga (Venga), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

So the Tory's big inroads are going to be in Kent?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

"George Galloway of the Respect party... being respected."

Beeb pundits kicking up a fuss because of possible Tory snatching of Medway - Labour majority there is 9.8% from 2001, but apparently their candidate is conceding. Hmm.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold Islwyn

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Menzies Campbell holds NE Fife. First big name to be re-elected.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour concedes Blaenau Gwent

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Old Labour Rebel in Gwent apparently defeats New Labour

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

And they hold Southport as well.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour holds Halton, South Shields, Redcar and Dunfermline & West Fife. Lib Dems hold Southport.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Blaenau Gwent is a massive bloody nose for Labour.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Peter Snow's Virtual Downing Street Totopoly!

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

From the makers of Actua Soccer 3.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

ACtually, no, 'Three Lions', and the BBC's Virtual Replay service.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour holds Bootle, Clwyd, Salford, Motherwell, and Ashton under Lyne.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Poor Mark C :(

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Will Britain ever change to a PR voting system in the next 20 years?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the Old Left are sharpening their claws if this result stays as it is. Tone may have to jump a little earlier than planned.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Blunkett re-elected.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Blunkett's in in Sheffield Brightside, with an 8.4% loss, with the BNP taking 6.2%.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

First nationalist party: SNP retain Angus.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

John Leslie Prescott!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

What's up with the Hull East backdrop?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Prescott returned too.
(xpost)

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Barnsley West, Knowsley South, Boro, Falkirk and Rother Valley all held by Labour.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

6% swing to the Lib Dems in Hull East though. LD can take Labour votes until the cows come home, problem for them is that there are 30 Lib/Lab marginals max.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, people seemed to be forgetting the "people lie in polls and secretly vote tory" thing! I know I did :/

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

That said, it's the Lib Dems that are making the gains, however small, in all these seats. And that could well make a difference in the other marginals too...

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

(Um wait, that came out wrong. I did not secretly vote Tory.)

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey its Mr Brightside.

― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Further Labour holds in Wolves SE, Ayrshire North, and Renfrewshire East.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Should have got more beers in. Yep, more beers, also a cyanide capsule.

― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Makerfield and Stockport also held.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Your next prime minister returns his seat safely in Kirkcaldy.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus Christ, how many candidates are there in Kirkcaldy?

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

The exchanages are now putting the Lib Dems on 67.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Dear second woman from the left: you are scaring me. Stop it.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

God Labour MPs make shitty acceptance speeches.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Blair will be a lame duck New Labour leader, the fight for the top dog position will start over the next 12 months within the party. Will there be more than one challenger apart from Gordon Brown?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Tony Benn's wee lad returned in Leeds Central.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Full exchanges:

Labour: 348
Tories: 207
Lib Dem: 67

Labour Majority of 49

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Recount in Battersbea

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Nottingham North, Dudley North, and East Kilbride all held by Labour. Dudley North was Tory target #147, in case you're keeping count.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

MINOR CONFUSION IN TORBAY

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Torbay, first big Con/Lib clash of the night

Lib Dem: 19,317
Conservative: 17,288

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Lib hold with increased majority.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold Broxbourne and Sutton Coldfield, Labour hold Worsley and Tooting. Where I was supposed to be poll-clerking. I could have been home by now. Sniff.

Lib Dems hold Torbay.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

on that spreadbet website tories on target to take between 200-210 seats, exactly my prediction of 40-50 more MPs

Lib dems hold Torbay !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour down 9% in seats so far with a Muslim population of more than 5%. That could be enough to displace Jack Straw.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold Darlington, Mancs Gorton, Heywood, and Wolves NE.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Manchester Gorton returning Gerald Kaufman, btw, but with a near 12% gain by the Lib Dems.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

BLACKBURN TO CALL

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold Wigan, Easington, Durham NW, and Aberavon. Here comes Straw.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Jack Straw retains.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Jack Straw reelected - no worries from the anti-war challenge

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Also held by Labour: Dunbartonshire WEst, Paisley & Renfrewshire North, Barnsley East, Wythenshawe.

Tories hold Woking.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

If my middle name were Whittaker, I'd call myself Roger rather than Jack.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, the Muslim Issue was a bit of a damp squib there.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd forgotten about Gerald Kaufman... He's not really in the front line any more is he?

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Do we really need to hear all the winning candidates singing the praises of the returning officer and the vote counters?

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Recount may be called at Hove.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

unfortunately it's protocol / tradition

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Keef - no, but considering how established he is a 9% loss is not to be sniffed at.

Labour hold Livingston (Robin Cook returned), Wentworth, and Blaydon. Blaydon is Lib Dem target #63.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Birmingham Yardley to goto Lib Dems? prediction

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Soton Itchen, Soton Test, Leeds West and Hull North held by Labour. Tories may have edged into Ilford North, apparently...

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

SNP gain a seat with a Gaelic name.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

The Western Isles go to SNP.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Is what Dom meant to say. SNP gain from Labour.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Can someone explain to me how ITV News is consistently 40-50 results ahead of Sky (which is also broadcasting on Five throughout the night - WTF?) and the BBC? Are they just guessing upcoming declarations before they happen? They even have 1 in the OTH column - is this Respect or that Labour geezer who's standing as an indie after being deselected by a raucous gang of fembots? Clearly we've had neither of those results yet cos they'd be Big News.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

CONSERVATIVES GAIN PETERBOROUGH

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

WBS: Crystal Palace predicted to take a victory against Southampton at Selhurst. Southampton to lose their Premier League place

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold Warrington N, Cumbernauld.

Tories take Peterborough, which was their #43 target, overturning 7.3% majority.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I am not liking these 6-8% swings in Lab/Con marginals. Not one bit.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour holds Holborn (returning Dobbo The Dob), Coatbridge, Bradford N, and Paisley South.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Recount in Battersea. I think they'll find it's four (chimneys).

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

The exchanges put the Tories at 209.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Manchester Withington, requiring at 16.4% swing by the Lib Dems to win, was won by the LDs on the first count but has gone to a recount.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Lib Dems hold Portsmouth S and Northavon. Labour hold Bolton SE, Gateshead E, Walsall S, Leeds East, Stirling, Warley, Linlithgow, and Knowsley North.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Conservatives win Newbury from the Lib Dems.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

sad news Newbury goes Tory

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

HOWEVER Lib Dems hold Cheadle, the Tories' top target.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, bizarre that... But perhaps indicative of the kind of strange results.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Newbury 30th Tory Target
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/html/gainsandlosses_con.stm

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold Barrow, Wrexham, West Brom West and Mancs Blackley. Tories hold Billericay. Plaid Cymru's first seat of the night, they hold Caernarfon.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Why did they lose in Newbury?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

4% swing to the Lib Dems in Cheadle.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Cardiff West, West Brom East, Wirral South and Birkenhead all stay Labour. Tories hold Wokingham.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Recount in Shipley and possibly Islington South.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Any belief in the uniform swing is now dead.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Peter snow has a big, flashing map. We're gonna need a new thread soon, aren't we?

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Newbury result:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/html/419.stm

Labour only 5.9 per cent !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

When can i go to bed? (ie - when will we know what's going to happen?)

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

This is without doubt the most confusing election of my lifetime (well, at least as far as I can remember).

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

A Lib Dem on Radio 4 blamed hunting (among other things) for Newbury.

― Rebecca (reb), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Go Didsbury!

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour holds: Kingswood, Great Grimsby, Neath, Stretford, Walthamstow, Notts East. Tories hold Southend W, Lib Dems hold Montgomeryshire...

And Labour have just held onto Edgbaston with a 2000 or so majority.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Edgbaston held! (as I just accidentally said on a thread about kiddie fiddlers in Spokane, USA)

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Lib Dems are being effed in the a at the moment.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

spreadbetting provides a fairly accurate indication of how things will end up:

https://cantor.spreadfair.com:443/

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I think we're gonna have to stay up a long time tonight to work out what's going on. The result's usually been pretty obvious by this time in the night in the past.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Further Labour holds: Wallassey, Bradford South, Portsmouth N, Sheffield C, Durham N. Tory holds: Bracknell, Hertsmere. Plaid Cymru holds Meirionydd nant Conwy, but Labour hold them off in their top target of Anglesey (Ynys Mon).

God, I love Welsh.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I still want to know how ITV can have access to 160+ results and the Beeb/Sky only 110-115.

Sky News now predicting 80-seat maj for Lab.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Yo Mike!

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Spell the town of my birth right, WBS! Good old Angela Eagle. I once spoke to her in WHSmith at Lime Street station, y'know. She was buying a copy of Quad Biking Quarterly to hide her Wire in.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Steady Mike - look into Katie Derham's eyes and you shall find the answer...

Labour holds Pendle, East Lothian and Crosby.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Yo Keef!

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

gah all lightweight fucken workin on fridays housemates all gone to bed fuckrz missing straw putting ALL FEET IN MOUTH AT ONCE

― emsk, Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and yes, there is only one s in Wallasey. Sorry 'bout that.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

TONY BLAIR IS WALKING UP SOME STEPS. IN SEDGEFIELD. HECKLING. OOOH.

Lib Dems hold: Bath, Hazel Grove. Labour hold: Swansea E, Cynon Valley, Bassetlaw. Tories hold Rochford & Southend East.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Second recount in Battersea.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I love how the Lib Dem's have a Lord Razall. Howsabouts a Lord Penthouse.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold: Inverclyde, Tamworth, Sheffield Heeley.

Charles Kennedy brought to you by the makers of popular satirical comedy 'Double Take'.

Recount in Rochdale.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

FIRST LIB DEM GAIN!!!! East Dunbartonshire

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

recount in Rochdale !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I've got work tomorrow too but I've decided to stay up until at least the Letwin result.

(Only kiddin', WBS. They should just call the place South New Brighton...and then close it down.)

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Milngavie and Bearsden is the toffmost of the Glasgow seats though...

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold: Leeds NE, Aberdeen S. Tories hold Chingford.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Here comes the forecast.....

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Lib Dems take the new Dunbartonshire East; Labour hold Aberdeen South and Pendle.

― Rebecca (reb), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

BBC says:

Lib Dem: 59
Conservatives: 201
Labour: 357

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Which would give Labour a majority of 68

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

LIB DEM GAIN HORNSEY AND WOOD GREEN!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Hornsey & Wood Green goes Lib Dem! I did that - that was me!

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

That doesn't sound right to me given the Conservative-leaning marginals so far. At least, given that they didn't expect that.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

labour majority of 68 predicted

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold: Liverpool Garston, Thurrock, Manchester C. SNP hold Perth.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, I mean with respect to the projections. I'm fairly drunk now.

x-post again.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold onto Rover Country of Northfield with a 6000-odd majority, down 6%.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I type too slowly, and that's even without stopping to fact-check. I shut up now before I type something completely untrue in the desperate hope of not repeating things...

― Rebecca (reb), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

15% swing to Lib Dem in Hornsey and Wood Green.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

yes LIB DEM GAIN HORNSEY AND WOOD GREEN! - New Labour kicked out of a part of North London

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

well done all yous lib dem voters in hornsey & wg then!

― emsk, Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Alan Millburn has effectively resigned from front-line government.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Sudden flood, here goes:

Labour Hold: Preston, Plymouth Sutton, Denton, Huddersfield, Pontypridd, Hove, Cleethorpes, Glasgow NW. Tories hold Poole.

Mark Mar-dell. Not Por-till-O.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Barbara (Hoffman La) Roche has gone! There are a few ILXors in the Hornsey constituency, aren't there?

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

You'se a Hove: Labour retain that place near Brighton.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

You won't be laughing if Michael Howard is PM in the morning!

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Roche held a crap campaign like a tortoise curled up in it's shell she deserved it !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour holds Islington North, though Islington South is mired in recounting, and Morley & Rothwell.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Although, I still maintain, he did ban crusties.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Also - Leicester West, Caerphilly, St Helens South, Cardiff South all still Labour.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Lib Dems crushed the New Labour tortoise shell !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Edgbaston held steadies the nerves a good deal.

But... it does seem strongly Thatcherite areas in the 80s in the South East are swinging back to the Tories. But it simply won't be enough, if Labour does better in the North West, Yorks and the Midlands. Thus, hmmm, 40-70 majority? anywhere in that region for me...

― Tom May (Tom May), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Conservatives hold Iron Maidenhead; PJ Miller will be happy.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Decapitation stratergy is dead on its feet.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Tory Teresa May hangs on to Maidenhead booooooooooo!

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Teresa May retains her Maidenhead. Are you thinking what Im thinking?

― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Cos I bloody wouldnt either.

― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder if my mum contributed to the East Dunbartonshire swing. I will have to find out. I think I voted Labour there in '97 and Lib Dem in '01. I can't bloody remember now.

― Ally C (Ally C), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

(Can I just say I've been loving this thread? Am about to cook dinner while still checking in. :-) )

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Barbara Roche's letter to me read like something by Chris Morris. It was along the lines of "The Lib Dems will double your council tax and use the money to give crack and heroin to schoolchildren".

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

But... it does seem strongly Thatcherite areas in the 80s in the South East are swinging back to the Tories.

That's exactly how it looks to me...

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold Rhondda, Hampstead and Delyn. Tories hold Kensington. Lib Dems hold Gordon.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Back from the vote-imism. Very pleased that the early swing is more to LD than Con. We'll have a labour government, no doubt.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour holds Bolton NE, Nottingham South.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

It doesn't currently look that way in the key marginals...

x-post

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour also: Streatham, Leyton and Halesowen.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Disappointing that the Tories seem to be doing well vs. LDs in the South though, in non metropolitan seats. However, no proven swing yet. Cheadle went very well for the LDs indeed... Tory target No. 1 of all...

― Tom May (Tom May), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Not that I don't think we'll have a Labour government, but it's looking fairly sketchy in Thatcher territory.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Judging by the BNP results there's a lot of racist scum in Yorkshire.

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Far too big a BNP vote in keighley for me.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I've just got back from the pub where we've been weeping with laughter. Anybody want money on a Tory government this side of 2020?

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Racist Griffin got 4240 votes

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour holds Keighley, Ilford S and Bury S. Lib Dems hold marginal Chesterfield.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

To all those who told me that Hornsey couldn't be lost to labour, silly billies. Silly fuckers too.

First recount at Rochdale after LD win first count by 441.

The key issue is whether the LD/Lab marginals are real marginals or Iraq marginals, ie, will they become 'what they are' after people have given 'Blair a bloody nose'. The tories have made few inroads into Labour, and Labour losses are to its left. That's a good sign for a Brown government which can move there much more than Blair.

Xpost - held Keighley, and Griffin can fuck himself. Cunt.

Tories can't take Bury South - they're not going to form a government.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Why is it that the freaky parts of the UK typically vote Lib Dem?

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

It was the song that did it, Martian.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Gwent up

― Ed (dali), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour also: Batley, St Helens N, Pudsey, Stoke C, Ayrshire Central.

BNP get 9% in Keighley. Here comes Blaenau.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Peter Law takes Blaenau Gwent! Bevan's old seat is no longer Labour!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

proper labour for blanau gwent

― Ed (dali), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Is the Hornsey & Wood Green vote the biggest swing of the night so far?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/html/325.stm

+17.5 swing to Lib Dems

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold Stalybridge, Ogmore, East Ham, Oldham West. Tories take Aldridge-Brownhills.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Agreed x-post... but Edgbaston has been the crucial one: Tories won it by *10%* in 1992, Lab by 6.4% this time...

That alone for me says that the Cons will be nowhere near making enough gains to form a government, or even reduce Labour's majority below 40 say.

Fucking appalling about Griffin's vote... but it's lower than seats in Oldham in 2001. How did they do in Burnley this time? Good I suppose that they were kept reasonably low in my seat, Sunderland South, but I only bet that the Tories gained possible racist votes they might have otherwise, due to Howard's despicable campaign.

― Tom May (Tom May), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Peter Law is man of the election, simple as that.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Nye Bevan's seat is probably back to where it was.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom, that's a really good point... That's probably the best way to predict the result.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

H&WG, I hope you know what liberal means.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Conservative gain in Ilford North

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I enjoy the fact that every time I look at this thread I see Flavour Flav in his Partick Thistle strip.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice one H&GW ILXORS!!!

― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

49% swing is mental. Labour are going to win, with casualties on the way.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold: Wolves SW, Dundee W, Scunthorpe, Llanelli, Liverpool Riverside.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

And Swansea West.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

As well as Copeland and Gower.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Forecast lab majority 76

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Peter snow has majority heading towards the spread this morning.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Prediction that Conservatives will take Rugby; what will Spacemen 3 think?

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

The BBC say a 76 majority. Which would be a lot better than the results at the moment sugest.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

My 'x-post' was relating to one further up about Thatcher territory! Oh, this is what happens on an election night where things actually feel at stake - unlike 2001.

Any word on national turnout?

Overall apparently a 2.8% national swing to Howard from Blair. Not actually that great for the Tories; Hague got 1.8% last time.

In many ways this feels like 1992 reversed; the Tories doing really well in targeted areas which are natural Tory stomping grounds, c.f. Thatcherite 80s, but failing to make the key breakthroughs in swing areas. For Bury and Brum Edgbaston, read Basildon etc. and actually loads of more middle-class North-West seats for Labour in 1992...

Copeland's good btw; if the Tories were to seriously be in with a chance of a major upset, they'd take it.

― Tom May (Tom May), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Kilmarnock, Warrington S and Burnley all staying Labour.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I have always voted for Lib Dems and I gave my reasons of why NOT to vote New Labour [May 4th, 2005 12:04 AM]
UK General Election 2005

How anyone could vote for New Labour in 2005? on ALL the negatives I listed.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

1992 was hell on earth

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold Telford, Halifax; Tories hold Bosworth; Lib Dems hold Kingston & Surbiton.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

IIRC, Cumbria actually *swung towards Hague by about 5%* last time, against the national trend. Any idea of the swing in Copeland?

And oh indeed x-post; likewise, I couldn't bring myself to vote for the project... and I'm very happy to see Labour being challenged in the big cities and in the North by the LibDems... I am just a mite depressed about the Tories' tactics seemingly working so well in the South-East and outer London.

Labour (even New) over Tory any day... but I frankly do not mind a reduced majority overall. Blair's power has needed reining in, and hopefully Labour will get Brown in place in not too long. As, remember: this would probably be a landslide with Brown as leader; he is undeniably a trusted figure...

― Tom May (Tom May), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold Tunbridge Wells, Epping Forest. Labour holds Ladywood (Clare Short Country), Mitcham, Glasgow N, Oldham East.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

As much as we've had a bloody nose, we've lost seats we never thought we'd win in 1997; we've won our 4th best result ever; the Tories are on their 3rd worst ever. I'm cool with this.

xpost - because anyone in the labour party hated New Labour. I can easily vote for them, as they still represent the best hope to improve the lot of working people. Elections are four way splits between principle and pragmatism, past and future. On two of those, Labour score poorly. But on the two others, they do well, if you still believe, as I do.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

New Lib Dem Gain - Ceredigion from Plaid Cymru.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

If everyone voted like the progressive people of Hornsey & Wood Green - we would have a Liberal Democrat Government.

No Nasty Tories and No New Labour Blairite pseudo conservatism plus meddling interference and incompetence and PR spun and lies.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

6% swing from PC to Lib Dems.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

It's the Reg Keys show!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

New Lib Dem Gain - Ceredigion from Plaid Cymru. - Helped by my brother and his wife - another fine result

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

And Lib Dems also take Cardiff Central off Labour.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

GAH am totally annoyed anticipating london results, why do there seem to be so few? ah shit i think i jus saw tony b gettin back in in sedgefield. but AAAAAAAARHGH!

― emsk, Friday, 6 May 2005 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour, new or old is a better hope for Britain than any liberal or conservative ever could be. Now is the time to steer the Labour party back to it's proper course. The tories must surely be finished now.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold: Dagenham, Dover, Camberwell, Clwyd South, Bury N, Alyn, Bristol S.

Lib Dem hold: Yeovil, Sutton, Harrogate.

Tories hold: Meriden, Altrincham.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

YES, I attended University in this seat ! another fine result with personal connections !

That will be the student vote ! nice one !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

God bless the Monster Raving Loonies! My friend stood for them in Stirling in 1992!

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I still consider myself a Labour voter, just one who didn't vote Labour this time. As I said on the older thread about a month ago, my ideal result would be Labour to win with a reduced enough majority to make Blair quit and get Brown in, but still a big enough majority for him to do something useful. This looks like happening, and my protest vote in Hornsey is the big story so far. Woo-hoo!

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

The Sedgefield ballot paper must have been huge.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Anthony Charles Lionel Blair holds. The Monster Raving Labour Party rolls on...

― NickB (NickB), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold: Wycombe, Brentwood, Chipping Barnet, Runnymede, Beds South.

Labour hold: Amber Valley, Airdrie, Liverpool W, Ayr, Oxford E, Sedgefield.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Is his name actually Lionel Blair!

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Blair's speech here is definitely a keynote one.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Blair is looking old & haggard.

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, 1992 certainly was horrendous... probably more so for my parents and so many of their generation and indeed in our region - hit the hardest of all, with Liverpool, by Thatcherism.

I distinctly remember that it was all in doubt early on, but waking up and feeling a real feeling of depression; maybe the first I can strongly recall in my life, aged 9.

Hornsey and Wood Green folk; I take my hat off to you all.

Dave B.: a cautionary word... Labour's share of the vote will be likely around 36-8%. In line only with Harold Wilson's Labour in Feb. 1974, and *below* that of Wilson's small win in October 1974...!
If they got less than 10 million votes in all that will be very bad indeed for a governing party. It does not point to the fact that they have engaged with people enough... they have actively turned off both liberal-left voters, and been hammered by the ultra-right wing campaign fought by the Tories in the marginals. Bluntly put, *they need to stand for more than they do right now*. They are a compromised party.

― Tom May (Tom May), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, that should read Beds South West above.

Labour hold Hartlepool, SNP hold Banff.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

THE TORIES TAKE WIMBLEDON FROM LABOUR

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Overturning a 9.1% majority in the process.

Labour hold Blyth Valley, Edinburgh East. Tories hold Devon SW.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

See these London things are turning out more Conservative... This is not over yet. I blame the wombles.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Leave the wombles out of this. I blame the Flumps.

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

More young people in their 20s are turning to Lib Dems, hopefully things will get stronger in future elections.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

LIB DEMS TAKE BIRMINGHAM YARDLEY FROM LABOUR.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

LIB DEM GAIN MANCHESTER WITHINGTON!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Surely the Flumps vote Labour!

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus, Lib dems getting Brum & Gunchester seats...

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Birmingham Yardley: 9% swing to the Lib Dems
Cardiff Central: 9% swing to the Lib Dems

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Lib dems taking the student vote in some large cities ?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

ANd Manchester Withington gone - Lib Dems take their 145th target, overturning a 32.9% Labour majority! Fucking hell...

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

My God... That's incredible.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Manchester Withington is the most obvious example of the student effect yet.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

SNP hold: Moray.

Labour hold: Colne Valley, Bolton W, Tyneside N, Bridgend, Walsall N, Gedling, Dewsbury, Hyndburn, West Ham, Plymouth Devenport, Newport East.

Tories hold: Romford, Reigate.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Manchester Withington is good people! I am superfond of there.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Wimbledon pretty emphatically down to the Lab to LD switchers. I hope they're proud of themselves.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

The Lib dems are liberals, be suspicious of the liberals, read your adam smith.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

IDS - what a cunt! The Labour party political broadcasts should have just consisted of his final Tory conference speech - "the quiet man...is turning up the volume!" - and the stage-managed standing ovation from all the back-stabbers.

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour also holds: Tottenham, Durham City, York City, Weaver Vale, Lincoln, Swindon N.

Lib Dems hold Dorset Mid.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Brian Eno message got through to some British people:
http://www.libdemthistime.org/index.php

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Smaller majority suits Blair: wolf needs to be kept somewhere near door. Probable bloody internecine war before Brown becomes next leader: hardly a model of Socialist radicalism anyway. Concept of Lib Dems being something other than amoral chancers = hilarious. Odds of any significant change to quality of life = slim as fuck.

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Bollocks. Casale was a good MP.

Tom M - you're right - the key issue is whether the 3-5% Labour have lost is Iraq-based or a defining shift away. I really don't know, but hope the former.

xpost - Cardiff and Withington don't really mean much. The story of the election is that Labour win, the Tories make no real inroads (Putney and Wimbledon are Tory seats) and the Libs take seats on a left-inclined slide. Sorry DJ - this isn't a fundamental shift in the body politic. The key issue for Labour is the economy over the next 5 years, which if handled right gives brown the space to win back the LD left drift.

xxpost - holding Slough, as if to prove the above.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour holds: Slough, Leicester East, Liverpool Walton.

Tories hold: Suffolk Coastal, Bournemouth West.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Further Labour holds: Ealing Southall, Battersea (after god knows how much recounting), Elmet, Stoke S, Wansbeck. Tories hold Beverley. Mmm.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

GET OUT OF THE WAY, WE WANT TO SEE TWIGG SQUIRM, apparently.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour press offices suggesting that George Galloway is in parliament! Jesus fucking Christ.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh fuck enfield Southgate oh fuck no

― Masked Gazza, Friday, 6 May 2005 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Sounds like George galloway has won.

can I just point out that he is an opportunist cunt.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck y'all morons of enfield

― Masked Gazza, Friday, 6 May 2005 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

holy shit oona k gone down to galloway!

― emsk, Friday, 6 May 2005 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Ruth Kelly holds Bolton West with a 4% swing to the Tories.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Cosying up to the religionists is a vile thing for a supposedly to attempt to gain power.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour have held Perry Barr, which the Libs thought they'd taken, Coventry NE, EalingActonShepherd'sBush, Glasgow East.

Tories hold Huntingdon shocker.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Further Labour holds: Vale of Glamorgan, Nuneaton, Luton North, Barking, Liverpool Wavertree, Stoke N.

Lib Dems have taken Rochdale from Labour, tho.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Snow saying 'unprecedented 3-way split'. What planet do these fuckers live on? Well duh.

xpost - Galloway's opportunist playing of despicable local prejudices reminds of, well, the Lib Dems in Rochdale. I hate both for the same reason - Labour's national leadership is full of cynical fucks, but their beating street heart is true; with the LDs it's the other way around.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold Ribble Valley and Croydon South. Labour hold Hayes, Bristol East and Blackpool South.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Here comes Enfield, apparently...

Please tell me I didn't see that girl holding Conservative pom-poms.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour 100 to go.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories gain Shipley.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Guildford goes back to the Conservatives from the Lib Dems.

― Rebecca (reb), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Paul Rowen, LD victor in Rochdale, is a fucking cunt.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Oona King was the fittest MP in living memory :(

I don't think it's fair to describe Gorgeous George as an "opportunist cunt". I'd prefer the term "complete and utter cunt".

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold Brighton Pavillion, which the Greens thought they had an outside shot at. Tories hold Bournemouth East.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

EXCHANGES UPDATE:

Labour: 357
Conservative: 199
Lib Dems: 62

Labour majority of 69

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

The Tories are winning seats they expected to hold in 1987 - when we talk of them winning wimbledon putney and guildford in a 'whoa' kind of way, it shows how far they've got to go.

PS - hello rebecca - long time no see on Ilx - you're in swindon right?

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

David Davis holds Haltemprice. Tories also hold Esher and Leominster. Labour holds Ipswich, Rossendale, Bradford West. Lib Dems hold Edinburgh West.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Portillo, wherever he is, does a merry jig as Stephen Twigg loses Enfield Southgate to the Tories.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

dave b otm

― Ed (dali), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold: Cambs South, Orpington.

Labour hold: Gloucester, Mansfield, Normanton, Glasgow Central.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories also holding Uxbridge, Sevenoaks.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think it's fair to describe Gorgeous George as an "opportunist cunt". I'd prefer the term "complete and utter cunt".

I'll go along with that.

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

x post

B-b-b-but Portillo's a liberal now!?!?!

*Gin snigger*

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Sevenoaks! I have friends, from there. They left.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Blairite Twigg will probably be back in a mid term bye election.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

SNP take Dundee East off Labour.

Labour hold Cov NW, Wansdyke. Lib Dems hold Carshalton, Hereford, Cheltenham, Aberdeenshire W.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I was hoping for a better holdout in London against the Cons.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Seat every five seconds at the moment. Swygart's fingers can't keep up, surely?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Hearing chat about a northern and southern vote brings a warm nostalgic glow to the cockles of my old skool heart

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour holds Derby S, Stourbridge, Edinburgh N. Tories hold Canterbury, Beckenham.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

There's no North/South anymore. It's all about Civilisation/Fucking Jeds.

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold Crewe, Hendon. Tories return their first black MP, Adam Afriyie, in Windsor.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

TORIES TAKE SHREWSBURY.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going outside for a cig now, before they coast past the winning post in the next half hour.

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour win Leicester South back off the Lib Dems.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Reg Keys OTMFM

― NickB (NickB), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

A labour gain at Leicester south!

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

leics south lab win

― emsk, Friday, 6 May 2005 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour holds Derbyshire NE, Newport W, Broxtowe.

Tories hold Spelthorne, Yorkshire East.

Lib Dems hold Caithness.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

RUSTIE LEE!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold: Swindon S, Derby N, Coventry S. Tories hold Macclesfield, Ruislip Northwood.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Independant returned in Wyre Forest.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

There are plenty more flesh wounds to come - as crazily patterned as the swings are, there are only about eight of the Tories' first 50 targets declared so expect a shedload of Blue gains in the next hour. Or not. Ha ha.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold: Islington S, Warks N, Tynemouth, Ellesmere Port. Tories hold Maidstone.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Widdecombe returned.

There's lots of Britain, really.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Adrian Chiles!

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold Ochil, Pontefract, Ealing N.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Greens got 22% of the vote in Brighton Pavilion - almost 10,000, just 800 votes behind the Tories.

― NickB (NickB), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Chiles is looking a lot less... robust than he used to.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

has Michael Howard's seat been announced yet?

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Kidderminster hospital good, now?

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

*Swygart scans list... doesn't think he's missed anything*

Tories hold Surrey East, Labour holds Glasgow NE.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Dimbleby has never heard of Rusty Lee - did he never watch the Godzilla cartoon on early saturday morning Tv in the early 80s? she cooked! between cartoons! and laughed! a lot!

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Jed - Howard's Folkestone. Not yet.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Hi Dave! I'm actually in the Wantage constituency, halfway between Oxford and Swindon, so no chance of anything except a Tory win here, sadly.

― Rebecca (reb), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour holds Boro South.

TORIES TAKE MONMOUTH, their 7th target.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold Rushcliffe, Labour holds Enfield N.

Tories overturn 0.9% Labour majority in Monmouth, there.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Re: Folkestone - Kent is Tory through and through, based mostly on xenophobia.

― NickB (NickB), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

oooh big wow

― Ed (dali), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

boooooooo tories back in Wales then ! last time round no tories in Wales

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

You've heard the Rusty Lee/slave trade trial story, yeah?

Has there been any discussion about the possibility of legal challenges to narrow wins cos of the postal vote thing yet?

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Adam Afriyie, firstly newly elected twat of the new parliament.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour get an 8.7% swing back to them to hold marginal Dumfries & Galloway. Also hold Cardiff North. Tories hold Beds NE.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

tories kept from their only seat in scotland.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Whats the latest at the Norfolk protest anyone? Should the people shut out have been allowed in to vote?

― NickB (NickB), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

You've heard the Rusty Lee/slave trade trial story, yeah?

No. I'm pretty sure it doesn't involve Godzilla (or Godzuki).

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Also Labour holds: Lewisham Deptford, Luton S, Brighton Kemptown. Tories hold Fylde. Lib Dems hold Teignmouth and Somerton & Frome.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the Dumfries and Galloway thing tells the story. It'll be roughly as the polls predicted. Still no Conservatives in Scotland.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

TONY BLAIR IS IN A CAR!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Greg Mulholland wins Leeds NW for the Lib Dems.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

What happened about Bow & Bethnal Green (King v Galloway)? I thought they were set to announce it, but nothing's happened.

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Bollocks, that should have been Teignbridge, not Teignmouth.

Tories hold Bromley.

Swygart Country (Croydon North) remains Labour, as does Swygart's Mother's Country (Workington).

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Con gain Hemel Hempstead.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Lab losing monmouth is cool; ~~geeks like me remember~~people forget how the tories won it in 1992 by 19 votes after losing it in a by-election in 91. Again, Tories win seat they used to hold comfortably. We're back to mid-90s politics.

That tory cunt in Windsor is, well, a cunt. He's living proof of the benefits of a tolerant society.

xpost - Blair really doesn't look like a man with a few years of Pmness in him, does him.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks william

One term tether!

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour holds Edinburgh SW,Lewisham W, Eltham.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

According to R4, Hemel Hempstead goes from Lab to Con, Lib Dems win Leeds Northwest.

― Rebecca (reb), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold Bognor Regis, Labour hold Chorley.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour have totally played Brent East well, yet they fuck up Blaenau Gwent. Dickwads.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Lewisham E stays Labour, Hants NW stays Tory.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Lib Dems lose Guildford to the Tories.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories double up on the Lib Dems, taking Guildford and Weston-Super-Mare.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour holds Brent South.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Y'know, you'd think with all the massive silent majority against the EU/multiculturalism/bloody foreigners that Veritas would have a few MPs by now.

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

yep, so my vote in Leeds NW is probably a major percentage of the Greens' yield, there.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Lib Dems gaining from some Labour
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/html/gainsandlosses_ld.stm

however losing to Tories narrowly in Guildford

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

that woman teaching bitesize science on bbc2 is really cute.
(got bored of election viewing)

― zappi (joni), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I asked my two colleagues at work who they'd voted for today (or rather, yesterday): one for the Workers Revolutionary Party in Streatham, and one for Veritas in West Ham. Not a terribly accurate exit poll that one.

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold: Castle Point, Upminster, Beds Mid, Havant, Surrey SW, Faversham. Labour holds Edinburgh South.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"so what significance does your victory have then?" = "you could probably make more money auctioning dogs!"

i love paxman

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories have held Eastbourne from the Lib Dems, too. Labour hold Edmonton.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories also gain Harwich from Labour. Labour holds Merthyr Tydfil.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Serious student protest in Edinburgh North & South despite labour holding on from the Lib Dems... Just...

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold Hemworth, Blackpool N, Brigg & Goole.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)

TORIES TAKE HAMMERSMITH - 26th target, former Labour majority of 4.5%

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I see Gordon Brown's pall Ed Balls has got in.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

THey also hold Cambs NW, Bromsgrove and Bridgwater.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought Paxo was a cunt to Peter Law. Typical machine politics boy utterly unable to respond to a genuine uprising of da people, yknow, like electuins do. Twat.

xpost - Hammersmith's a fucking shame. I don't think we'd have lost it if Iain Coleman would have stood. Shame.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Tony Blair currently has a 'Spiderman' style stance on the BBC.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Letwin is still in. Oh well.

― Rebecca (reb), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories also take The Wrekin - overturn 8.6% LAbour majority.

Tories hold Rutland, Tatton, Sussex Mid, Tonbridge.

Labour hold Harrow W, Glasgow SW.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Yep, Tories hold Dorset West. Labour hold Chester City, Conwy, Watford.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Still no Conservatives in Scotland... Actually, there aren't going to be now.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

44 seats away from a Labour government.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Could they not have given the poor bugger a podium? Or a chair. Or... something. One of those high stools like what Westlife have.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold Ashford, Cotswold, Hertford.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Tony Blair currently has a 'Spiderman' style stance on the BBC

What, he's angstily nobbing Kirsten Dunst?

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Afraid not... It was more like the stance Kenny Everett adopted for Spiderman than the recent films.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Letwin was going to be my bedtime. I hate to go to sleep on a downer so I may as well wait for the 324th Labour seat (tho' they're slowing up now...)

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

...I suppose I could go to bed now there was no humiliating televised Letwin defeat to gloat at. Not that I have a TV anyway.

― Rebecca (reb), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost!

― Rebecca (reb), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Yikes. Worst popular vote for a government EVAH!*

Though adding LD votes makes it less so - Iraq vs disenchantment. You decide, in 4 years time.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Another Lib Dem gain from Labour - Inverness. Their #5 target.

Labour hold Bedford, Barrow & Furness. Barrow In Furness, surely? Or perhaps I've been hearing it wrong all these years.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour holds Ashfield, Carmarthen West. Tories hold Blaby. Charlie Kennedy returned in Ross, Skye & Lochaber.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour holds Ashfield, Stevenage, Carmarthen West. Tories hold Blaby, Rayleigh. Charlie Kennedy returned in Ross, Skye & Lochaber. Plaid Cymru hold Carmarthen East.

Letwin sounds like he didn't actually think he'd win...

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"The hospitals that the elderly people have to go to and... err... the young are born in"

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, New Labour's all about Furness. *ducks*

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:28 (twenty-one years ago)

New Labour only 36.7 % ? of the overall popular vote, hardly democracy in action is it !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Lib Dems take another one off Labour, this time Bristol West, their #18 target. Tories hold Epsom, Suffolk South. Labour holds Harrow East.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Bristol West goes LD from Labour.

― Rebecca (reb), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Right, time for bed.

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Surely it is democracy in action...

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

over 6 in 10 that voted, do not want a New Labour govt ! yet they get to carry on doing whatever the want.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't beat the Swygart, AND he brings added facts! This must mean it's bedtime, though I'm a bit tempted to wait for my home, but it's not like I don't know the result already.

― Rebecca (reb), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:32 (twenty-one years ago)

DJ - is that news? The tories were doing that years back. How do we change the voting system?

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Diane Abbott holds Hackney North. Labour also hold Wakefield & Cannock Chase. Lib Dems hold Eastleigh.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:32 (twenty-one years ago)

...yes, I've just noticed how many exclamation marks I've used tonight and it's definitely time for bed. Ugh, dirty, dirty.

― Rebecca (reb), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Blair ignores so many issues !

New Labour in the 00s is for:

ID Cards
Top Up Fees and Student Grants
Going to War alongside Right Wing US Republicans
Income Tax - keep the Tory top level of tax at only 40 %
Lying about increases in Tax
Arrogance and management by smug PR spin
Stupid schemes such as "Baby Bonds"
Building Homes on Green Built Land in the South East and Eastern England
No long term vision on key issues of Pensions, and offering current Pensioners a poor deal.
Council Tax increases year after year

This is not progressive democratic socialism it's New Labour Rubbish !

Back in the early 90s if i said that Labour would be running on the above agenda in 2005 you would not believe it !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

DJ - is that news? The tories were doing that years back. How do we change the voting system?

To the proportional representation system that has ensured Italian politics is the noble and effective field it is!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and anyone what went Poptimism - how'd it go?

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

What I love about Italian politics is that it pretty much proves that life can continue quite happily without a government to fuck things up.

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold Maldon, Fareham... it's a quiet bit, so back to the Sian Williams paint-by-numbers electoral map. Later, Jules Botfield meets some people playing a specially adapted version of Risk in a shed in Pevensey.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm loving Lord Strathclyde's hard weegie brogue.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Noodle, haha... Good point.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)

That maps a bit Rolf Harris.

― NickB (NickB), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold Witney, Suffolk Central - and they've taken Braintree, another Essex gain. Tory target #4.

Labour holds Brent South, Glasgow South, Great Yarmouth.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Also Martian, you're assuming that the Labour Party has ever been anything but a disorganised cabal of opportunist wankers. History mostly denies that. It's just the alternatives are worse.

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Lib Dems get their top target, Taunton, off the Tories. And Brent South should read Brent North.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold Bolsover, Greenwich, REdditch.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Conservatives get Hatfield. Must have been happy with the railway privatisation.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Balls. David Evans' revenge. Melanie Johnson loses. For shame.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold Mole Valley and Surrey Heath.

Labour holds Leics NW.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn, the tories have won a seat in Scotland.

― Andy Jay, Friday, 6 May 2005 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Gutpunch for Boyler - Tories take Lancaster. And Hornchurch.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Eh? Which one?

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold City Of London, Newark. Lib Dems hold Lewes. Labour hold Calder Valley, Hackney South.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

The other dumfriesshire seat. Majority of 1738.

― Andy Jay, Friday, 6 May 2005 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Exchanges are pretty stable at the moment, Lib Dem figures haven't changed for 30 minutes

Labour 356
Conservative 203
Liberal Democrat 60

Labour majority of 67

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Thatcher can still fuck em up. Bless the old witch.

xpost - knew Lancaster would be lost by October 2001 TBH. It was all about delivery and TTEOSTE fucked that up.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Still no declaration in Bethnal Green & Bow tho' the Labour agents are being very glum. Oona is wandering about with her iPod on, GG (Allin) poncing about outside with a cigar. Oona. Stubbs. Cigar. You work it out.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour holds Newcastle-under-Lyme, Torfaen, Erdington. Tories hold Lichfield, Bexhill.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Charles Clarke, who Peter Snow was A Bit Worried About, is safely in in Norwich South, albeit with a 7.8% loss of vote share.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold Mid-Worcs, New Forest East, Bury St Edmunds.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I grew up near Lichfield. The Tories can have it.

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Kilroy's getting ready for the result in Erewash. I know I am.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Parliament - Kilroy wasn't here.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Church of Militant Elvis Party! Nice!

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)

2,957! He's lost his deposit!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Lib Dems hold Colchester. Tories hold NE Cambs.

I've seen some shit Elvis lookalikes in my time, but that man... that's Elvis' Stan Boardman phase, if anything.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)

KILROY PWNED!

― zappi (joni), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

kelly osbourne standing for bnp now?

― Masked Gazza, Friday, 6 May 2005 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour holds Erewash and South Derbs.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Lost deposit! Hahafuckingha

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Kilroys not fit for Arsewash, let alone Erewash.

― NickB (NickB), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh sweet merciful Jesus - that is the greatest result of all time.

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Is the Sittingbourne and Sheppey constituency stage slanted?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories take another target - #47, Scarborough and Whitby, and the Lib Dem vote accounts for a large chunk of their success there.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

(Quick clarification -- what *does* it mean, this 'lost his deposit' deal? This is a literal deposit of money not returned?)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold Eddisbury, Gainsborough. Labour hold Finchley, Lib Dems hold Brecon.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

No Ned, its the electoral stool sample to make sure theyre fit to take their seat.

― NickB (NickB), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold Sittingbourne after two recounts, Tories hold Norfolk South.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Well done Derek Wyatt, even if he is a rugger bugger.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:53 (twenty-one years ago)

To NickB: :-D

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)

if you don't reach 5 % of the vote? you lose the £500? deposit for the right to stand in an election

it is in place to stop anyone standing for just PR purposes

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold Bristol NW, Tories hold Stratford-upon-Avon and 'South Holland And The Deepings', who will be playing The Jug Of Ale in Moseley next Monday *b'doom-chish*.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned - you pay 500 quid to stand, and unless you have 5% of the vote, you lose yo deposit.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Clarity and thank you.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold Chelmsford West, Lib Dems hold Berwickshire, Labour hold Hastings.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes Ned, you have to pay (what is it now, 10 grand?) in order to stand as a candidate. And unless you gain a certain percentage of the vote (can't remember what that figure is at all) you don't get your money back.

Prior to Thatcher getting peeved at "frivolous" candidates ripping the piss out of her, the deposit used to be 20p.

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sure it's more than 500 squid nowadays.

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Lib dems hold Twickenham, Tories hold Aldershot and Grantham, Labour hold Morecambe.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

ANother Welsh seat for the Tories, they take Preseli Pembrokeshire off Labour. Also Tories hold West Worcs.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I was very wrong. Maybe the last 10 years' crack hits were a bad idea.

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Lib Dems hold Richmond Park, Tories hold Wells and Louth, Labour holds Burton.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

12 seats to victory, yeah?

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Looks as though Lib Dem protest vote gives Scotland our only Conservative seat.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Almost there. BBC says 310, ITV says 313, Sky says 308.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Tessa "Slobberin'" Jowell holds Dulwich & West Norwood (down the hill from me), Labour also hold Warwick & Leamington. Tories hold Daventry.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Bet you're looking forward to work tomorrow Mike.

Did I mention I'm on holiday?

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories Hold East Devon, North Essex, and Labour holds Dudley South.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I think R4 said Kilroy-Silk just got to keep his deposit at 6%, but I'm tired now and could be wrong. I am glad I forgot to go to bed now all the same. Shame I didn't see it on TV but I'm sure it will be shown on HIGNFY etc forever.

― Rebecca (reb), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Creeping toward the finish line, Labour holds Worcester.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Preseli Pembrokeshire is where i was born, and my parents still live there. Unfortunately they both voted Tory and i am aware of the winning tory candidate who is a few years younger than myself.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold West Worthing and Gosport, Labour hold Midlothian, Leigh.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)

It's an endorsment, not a ringing one.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories get a shellacking in Solihull - Lib Dems overturn a 19.5% majority to get their #55 target.

Labour hold West Lancs, Tories hold Chesham, Harborough.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour holds Waveney, Birmingham Hall Green.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:08 (twenty-one years ago)

It's getting late - however i am pleased that 3 constituencies i have connections with have gone to Liberal Democrats !

Ceredigion, Cardiff Central and Hornsey & Wood Green.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:09 (twenty-one years ago)

8 more seats to go though...

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Has The Lovely Fiona Bruce been stuck up there all night with nothing to do? dear me.

Tories hold East Hants.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories have taken St Albans off Labour, overturning 10.2% majority.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Radio 4 confirms Kilroy does just keep his deposit, refuses to speak to BBC, tells R4 reporter to stop following him around, gives epic bonkers speech 3x longer than the acceptance speech. Ahh...

― Rebecca (reb), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha. Well that means he can stand again with the same money. And we can laugh at him again. Always look on the bright side of life.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:12 (twenty-one years ago)

St Albans another case of the Lib Dem swing putting Tories in.

Now Brent East, featuring Sarah Teather, The Littlest MP.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold Bishop Auckland, Lib Dems hold SE Cornwall.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, this is freaking me out; it's getting light outside.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

But I was imagining Kilroy walking up and down the benches in the House of Commons with a mic in his hand going "Anne, you're still a virgin, how does that feel?"

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think that immigration was a top level issue as portrayed by the media and certain parties in the past month.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold Ryedale, Lib Dems hold N Southwark, Labour hold SW Milton Keynes.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)

The decapitation strategy hasn't exactly worked out has it? Where is our 'Portillo moment'?

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Liam Fox holds onto Woodspring. Bugger.

ANd Howard looks to have hung on to Folkestone.

Can someone please hurt the Monster Raving Looney man?

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

LOONY LANDSLIDE

― Frogm@n Henry, Friday, 6 May 2005 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I expect I'll be in work tomorrow around 11:30. Sod them - I didn't get that promotion and I'm several hours in credit. They can't say nowt.

Be lovely if Howard lost here, wouldn't it? (Not a single Labour gain all night - not even bizarro by-election Brent East).

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Lib Dems hold Brent East, Labour hold High Peak, thus giving them +3 attack range for their archers.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Sadly he didn't lose... Dr.Fox, from the Pepsi chart won too.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

reason high turnouts in some of the key tory / lib dem marginals. The tories got most of their voters out.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold Aylesbury, Lib Dems hold N Devon.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm gonna call it a night at Labour 324.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold Sherwood, putting them within 4 seats of TOTAL VICTORY. Tories hold West Derbs, Basingstoke.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Oooh,

Michael Howard claims he will support Tony Blair if he delivers on all their hopes, except lower taxes.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Howard playing the deliver or else strategy talk to Blair.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think that immigration was a top level issue as portrayed by the media and certain parties in the past month.

But I think this is a big issue in Kent, hence Howards distorted view of the nation.

― NickB (NickB), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

ANd the Tories take Kettering, their #11 target, with around a 6% majority. THey also hold Congleton, NW Norfolk and Charnwood.

However, West Reading and Regent's PArk puts Labour within two.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Aylesbury, Tory - my parents constituency, bollocks to em.

― NickB (NickB), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

ANother Tory gain, this time in Wellingborough (Peter Ebdon Country). THey also hold North Wilts, Richmond, and Boston & Skegness.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

One more needs to fall.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

324 - Staffordshire Moorlands does it (so say ITV).

That'll do. Good night all.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Yep, it's Staffordshire Moorlands, CHarlotte Atkins holds on to put Labour over the top for the 2K5.

Tories hold Chichester.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Lib Dems hold Winchester. Should I go to bed yet? We've still got the pleasures of Bethnal Green to come...

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Hold on here, William, I might be able to pick up some slack...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

LAbour holds Stroud and Corby. Tories hold North Shropshire.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Hm. The BBC live feed seems kinda uninformative.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

you are right, Kent is one of the main entrance points into the UK.

Therefore it has to deal disproportionally with immigration compared to say Nottinghamshire, where Kilroy-Silk was made a fool of.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, bloody Bethnal Green. I've already turned the telly off. One for the highlights reel tomorrow.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour holds: Stafford, Poplar, Brum Hodge Hill. Lib Dems hold Orkney, Tories hold Christchurch.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, why are there a bunch of odd dudes sitting around what looks like the world's largest plasticine Simon game?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh no. Galloway's in.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold Banbury and Tewkesbury, Lib Dems hold Romsey, Labour hold Thanet South.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Confirmed, Blairite Ona King lost her seat ! Old Labour Galloway back in

Galloway calls for New Labour to sack Blair tomorrow.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold Vale of York, Sleaford, Totnes, Salisbury, Tiverton.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

George Galloway bucks the tradition of thanking the returning officer!

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha ha:

http://img34.echo.cx/img34/1469/oona7ag.jpg

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Really going this time. Goodnight all, and thanks, this thread's been great. Cheers.

― Rebecca (reb), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Galloways party is called "Respect"?

― NickB (NickB), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)

God, that speech was ugly.

Labour holds Northampton North, Lib Dems hold Norfolk North.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Though I suppose it's as close as we'll ever get to hearing a politician attempting to cover the songs of Prolapse. He's got a point about the other two constituencies that Respect came second in - both safe Labour seats, but they took a chunk.

Labour holds Basildon and Brum Sparkbrook.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Time for a nice cup of tea I think.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)

was bethnal green close in the end?

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Only two changes in the (non-London) South East so far, and both of those are Lib-Dem to Tory.

― NickB (NickB), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and Labour clung onto Medway in the end, with a margin of 0.5%

The Tories, however, claimed Milton Keynes NE, and held the Isle Of Wight.

Toby - think there were just over 800 votes in it.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories also hold Henley, Penrith, North Dorset and Buckingham, and make further gains, taking both Bexleyheath and Gravesham off Labour.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:46 (twenty-one years ago)

The birds are singing outside! Too late to turn in I reckon.

― NickB (NickB), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold West Suffolk, Beaconsfield.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Bloke in our street was standing for the Socialist Labour Party. 172 votes in total, oh dear.

― NickB (NickB), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:50 (twenty-one years ago)

War of the terrible front pages:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/newspapers/6_may_2005/img/9.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/newspapers/6_may_2005/img/3.jpg

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, Lib Dems take Westmorland and Lonsdale off the Tories - their #13 target, overturning 6.6% majority.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Cover connections (x-post):

http://www.cathuria.com/bcd/TheySavedHitlersBrain.jpg

― NickB (NickB), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:52 (twenty-one years ago)

You know, from the initial comment that this is the most boring election in years, it's turned out to be the most interesting since at least 1992 and possibly even back to 1979.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate the smugness of "The Sun"

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:55 (twenty-one years ago)

The Galloway stuff is gonna reverberate for a hell of a time.

Labour hold Erith, Exeter, Feltham and Loughborough, but lose Clwyd West to the Tories - another Welsh Tory seat, by 133 votes.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm hoping that someone will pick up on Galloway's points about the fact you can vote by just turning up with a polling card. I know there's no official form of ID, and not everyone has a passport or driving license, but it's just not good enough.

Not sure if I really believe his conspiracy theory about the Labour party registering masses non-existent people at multiple addresses for extra postal votes.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Labour hold Dorset South, Dartford, Selly Oak. Tories hold Saffron Walden, Old Bexley & Sidcup. Lib dems hold Hallam.

James - I didn't even have to do that. I turned up, told them where I lived, then pointed at my name on the register. Then I voted. Bit worrying.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold SW Herts, Labour hold Hillsborough and Chatham.

And in Northampton South (Passantino Country)... the Tories take it, 5% swing.

The Lib Dems have also relieved Labour of Cambridge.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Interesting that it's dawn in London, but not in Cardiff according to the great Mr.Dimbleby, and yet it's daylight here in Edinburgh. The sun with a small 's' must be working real wonders.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, Cambridge is rather impressive - Lib Dems' #59 target, overturning 20% majority.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold Stone. 61 seats remain, of which I think about twenty are in Northern Ireland, so they won't be along till a bit later anyhow.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Indeed... I'm off to bed. Goodnight!

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold Arundel, and take Rugby off Labour. Tony Blair is in a plane being slowly circled by sinister looking vans.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Another student city seat goes Liberal Democrats.

If New Labour were to hold the next election in say early September 2009, then the concentrated student vote would not exist.

it will be interesting to see will they go more than 4 years or even upto 5 years re: the next election

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories take West Devon from the Lib Dems, Lib Dems take Falmouth from Labour, Labour hold Gillingham. Think I'll hop off in a bit.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Tories hold Hitchin, NE Herts, SW Norfolk, Thanet North. I'm off now - seats update at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/constituencies/default.stm

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Latest estimate for the majority falls to 70. Those first exit polls of 66 may yet turn out to be right.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Fucking hell. It's 6:20AM and there are Labour Party idiots un-ironically chanting 'FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS!' at Tony Blair as he gives a speech at Millbank.

I vote we all turn the next week into one big drinking game where you take a sip when you hear the spin-doctor catchphrase 'historic third term' or 'I believe we have a mandate'. Tony Blair's said these both at least three times already, practically every Labour MP I've heard interviewed has used the 'historic third term' line and even fucking journalists are spouting them. Even the main headlines on the BBC led with 'Blair Secures Historic Third Term'.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 6 May 2005 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but it is actually true...

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 May 2005 08:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait a minute, that Sun frontpage... The Sun basically went on the Blairite anti-Lib Dem assault in the past few days, repeatedly writing them off as "loony left" and without a chance of gaining any ground. Are they pointing out Lib Dem gains as a "always back a winner" stratergy, or are they using it as a warning of a massive evil that needs to be fought?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 09:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Lib Dems hold St Ives, anyway.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 09:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Trimble has lost his seat to the DUP

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Ulster Unionists have lost 4 of their 5 seats announced so far. That's a housing right there. 3 to the DUP, 1 to the SDLP. Sinn Fein have retained their three so far.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently in the town I was born, Harlow, they gave up half-way through a second recount because they were too tired and they're not going to bother counting the votes again until tomorrow. Seems a bit lame.

(they = vote counting people, not the UUP)

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 6 May 2005 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.sinnfein.ie
http://www.uup.org.uk

Rofflez.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 May 2005 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

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