Is racism a particularly large problem in Australia?

i'm completely talking out of my ass, but i'd be surprised if racism was really any more prevalent in australia than in, say, france or the u.s.

The whole thing's suddenly exploded into a mess.

.. what was meant by this?

Actually, this pattern exists in the U.S. as well. People lower in the pecking order often look for an even more vulnerable population to push down. "I may be ______, but at least I'm not ______."

Humanity, in many ways, sucks, essentially.

Bunch of them ended up in my parents home town. Some time shortly after my parents house was robbed (a petty minor "steal cash and thats it" breakin) for the first time ever (20+ years). Can you guess who they blamed? I was furious at them.

so back to sydney. everyone i know in sydney is rascist to some degree. like there will be a whole lot of comments on how asians cant drive or lebanese guys are greasy or the greeks will rip you off if the south african jews dont get to you first. and theres not even a pause afterward like might happen if something slipped out and you were afraid you'd offended people.

i spent a good chunk of my late teens/early twenties calling people on this sort of talk but I ended up being the person everyone looked down upon. like i was throwing an unnecessary spanner in the works. but heres something i noticed after a while. this man i know, judging solely on what comes out of his mouth, is probably the worst rascist i have ever met but when he comes to meet someone asian, lebanese, whatever he treats them exactly the same as he would any white australian. theres nothing put-on about it. hes absolutely genuine. after i first noticed that, i noticed the same from other people.

im not saying that perpertuating a whole lot of stereotypes isnt bad enough, but the majority of australians i know act a whole lot different than they talk when it comes to race.

Thank god racism has been eliminated in Asia and Africa. No danger of being beaten to death with sticks along with 500,000 of your tribesmen in Central Africa because you're from the wrong group.

No looing down on of Tamils or Vietnamese by differently complected bretheren to the north.

http://images.art.com/images/products/large/10133000/10133130.jpg

Thats a point I am very glad you brought up. I guess people would call that "casual racism" but yeah, my dad is like that. He is seriously a good hearted, nice, polite person with no actual prejudices about anyone when it comes down to it. Does this stop him from saying "lots of hymies out today" in my neighbourhood or calling the chinese shopkeepers next door "dim" and "sim"? No, it doesnt. I call him on it EVERY time he says it, and I am very angry about it - but he is HONESTLY BAFFLED and means no harm by it.

That casual, "its just words" kind of racism is very aussie. I think maybe somehow it is encouraged by our "humour through insults" way of life perhaps. I had a brit ex who was horrified at how we all spoke to each other here, calling each other 'fattey' and "shithead" and etc.

All that said, these semantics are nothing in the face of the accounts I'vebeen reading abt the Cronulla beach riots.

Apparenltly THOUSANDS of white locals converged on the beach with every intent of harrasing/screaming/hitting the Lebanese locals off the beach. And then they did. They smashed bottles, kicked people, chased kids in huge mobs, and trashed the mall. I*YD&DSTF^SDF

the Liberal MP for the area went on ABC radio to explain that it was actually revenge from white people for September 11 though. So that's alright then, sorted.

Ive been reading the email to crikey.com.au thats appeared on a few blogs from a horrified bystander who watched it all unfold and jeez. Talk about a blind mob.

Apparently a lot of that violence was skinhead gangs or some crap.

Thankfully, we live in slightly more enlightened times...but the whole bogan underclass still remains and came out in force on Sydney on Sunday. The same bogan underclass that hates "un-ostralian shit, mate" and intelligence. The same bogan underclass that actually give Pauline Hanson her fifteen minutes of ill-gotten fame before John Howard took her policies wholesale. The same bogan underclass who gives us this ultra-neo-conservative federal government that ironically will make their pathetic lives even more worthless. And they'll vote 'em in again and again.

im really suprised this didn't happen sooner. every summer all you would hear is 'look at all the fuckin' wogs driving from blacktown to our beach! go home!'.the sutherland shire is like a world of its own and its completely entrenched in hate. you really couldnt pay me enough to go back to cronulla.

KHE SAHN!

Clifton Evers, a lecturer in gender studies at the University of Sydney, said the dominant male ego was a highly regarded part of surf culture and the Cronulla riot was an attempt to maintain ownership of the beach.

He dismissed the attack on the North Cronulla lifesavers as the trigger for Sunday's melee, saying the surf culture and the lifesaving movement were often at loggerheads over the use of waves and there was little love lost between both groups.

"The SLSC movement and surfing is a male world grown out of control. Listening to the guys' chants on Sunday, it's clear the protest was an inversion of victimhood," Dr Evers said.

"They kept saying: 'Our world is under attack, our woman need defending, our way of life was under attack.' Of course, nothing of the sort was going on. The whole thing is an attempt to shore up the privileges they enjoy as gatekeepers of the beach culture."

Dr Evers thought that what perhaps the riot displayed most was the power of mateship.

"Most of those guys wouldn't have had a clue. They could be wound up by all the fascist groups in the world and wouldn't know. But they could have been there because one of their mates reckons the outsiders [needed] to be taught a lesson," he said. "And, you know, all those young blokes driving to the beach suburbs in their cars from the western suburbs to fight are being driven by the same thing - mateship.

"You hate who your mates hate. In Australia, mateship is stronger than racism."

Please explain this because a) it makes no farking sense, b) I dont think anyone's blamed Italian immigrants for anything, c) you are an american, you have no idea wtf is behind all this.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/alan-jones-i-led-this-charge/2005/12/12/1134236003153.html

Alan Jones is a right wing talkback shockjock DJ. He is foul and unrepentingly stupid. And he said this, among other things:

When John called on Tuesday to bluntly recommend vigilante action — "If the police can't do the job, the next tier is us" — Jones did not dissent. "Yeh. Good on you, John." And when he then offered a maxim his father had picked up during the war — "Shoot one, the rest will run" — the broadcaster roared with laughter. "No, you don't play Queensberry's rules. Good on you, John."

It was horrible stuff, larded with self-congratulation. And pity poor Berta — "not of a Middle Eastern family" — who tried to argue there were two sides to this story. When she reported hearing "really derogatory remarks" aimed at Middle Eastern people on Cronulla beach, Jones cut her off: "Let's not get too carried away, Berta. We don't have Anglo-Saxon kids out there raping women in western Sydney."

*boggle*. Yeah ok. White kids don't rape, in Sydney?

Hey sedition law, cop this: KILL ALAN JONES NOW. PLEASE.

My opinion? The sooner it's destroyed, the better.

And that's my earlier question answered as well.

I am too wound up over this to be logical about it at all (Ive just caused a huge fight on my LJ because everyone misread something I said).

He has *no* cock. Therefore, he cannot be a cock. He is cockless. COCKLESS.

Melbourne has that other loathsome toad Andrew Bolt spouting the same bile in the Herald Sun, and if nothing like Cronulla happens in Springvale or somewhere like that, all it might mean is radio has more clout than the print media.

I'm not sure anything of this scale's ever happened in Melb. I'm not boasting or anything; I know places like Frankston and Dandenong and Broady are bad. But for eg: those Salt nightclub asian gang related stabbings a few years ago. That didnt result in a bunch of rabid chapel st yuppies "relcaiming our clubs".

I think it's a combination of intelligence, demographic spread, geography, and the footy.

THUS I HAVE SOLVED THE PROBLEM ONCE AND FOR ALL

"if sydneysiders played australian rules football, they wouldn't be racist dickheads" - esteban buttezz, 2005

Just look at the games. Australian Rules is about artistic expression, covering great distances and using your head. Rugby League is just an excuse for no-necks to beat each other up.

Rugby League. Too stupid to be sport, too ugly to be porn.

PS - choke on a dick.

Oh but wait, you'd have to have been PAYING ANY ATTENTION TO THE THREAD to comprend this ahhh never mind why do I bother.

-- jim p. irrelevant (electricsoun...) (webmail), December 13th, 2005 12:28 AM. (electricsound) (later) (link)

Go back to England to be with the rest of "your kind".

Trayce, eat living fuck you racist bitch. Fuck you!

Here, you'll have greek/italian 2nd generation young guys being the offenders a lot of the time - starting shit, abusing asians, etc. It seems to flux.

xpost, ha I didn't even notice. Was it for this or the MSN zings?

Jon I defriended you ages ago, I got bored with the joeks is all.

Wheres Freddy Negro when we need him.

http://www.jasoncross.com/images/photo/mario_lou.jpg

(my comment was true! My school was 90% greek/croatian/italian and they used to beat shit out of the aboriginal and asian kids. So suck on that wankface!)

xpost ahahaha stence =)

I can't even be bothered explaining my "isnt it an irony that recent immigrants are stupid enough to be racist to other recent immigrants and - even more stupidly - to koori australians" point in terms dumb enough for jon.

Oh wait I just did.

Trayce is HOT!

(ie either make an argument or stop using it as a stick to beat this thread with)

I bet Jon'd get upset if he knew we call people wogs with good humour nowdays as well. Maybe we should show him a few episodes of Acropolis Now.

xpost

Yeah, you know how I was saying about my dad wanting to vote BNP, that was in the midlands - Worcester, to be exact. He goes on about paki shopkeepers a lot. I don't think this kind of thing is as common darn south, or at least not in London.

That sounds about right.

This isn't such a bad argument actually: i do think that poo-pooing particular groups for their lack of enlightened tolerance is one of the favourite ways for liberals to indulge in "safe" put-down generalizations about other groups.

HOWEVER, I think this is an unfortunate tendency rather than an obstacle which makes talking about inter-racial tension in Australia in any terms other than "white liberals are crap" impossible. While we cleverly diagnose our own prejudicial tendencies, people of all varieties are still voting for John Howard, advocating we lock up refugees, calling up talkback radio and advocating we beat the living shit out of arabs, homosexuals etc. This goes on while we second-guess ourselves into a neat little corner.

Ultimately, we want to stop these things from happening (and yes, that's a non-exhaustive list, obviously there are other crap things about Australian society), and we won't do that until we understand what motivates people to do the sorts of things listed above, and a lot of the motivation involved is bound up in experiences of ethnicity. I don't think it's racism to note that, for example, a lot of former immigrants will freely tell you that they don't like asylum seekers because they want a free ride, whereas former waves of immigrants built themselves up with no help or handouts. The challenge (and it's not one I pretend to know the immediate answer to) is to understand what is informing this position, so we can persuade a person to modify it (and a big part of knowing how to do this will surely involve understanding unromantically why e.g. I'm predisposed towards helping refugees ).

It's pretty crap to decide as a result of this that the problems of the world are caused by uncivilised brutes fighting amongst themselves in a beery, bogan form of tribal warfare, shrug and return to one's own concerns with a sad "if only they could be enlightened like us" sigh - and this is the trap which the white middle class observer of intolerance amongst ethnic groups is highly prone to walk right into.

But to imply that this is what Trayce is ridiculous considering the paucity of evidence to that effect.

And the issue sparking this discussion is a riot started by white guys. Am I racist for pointing THAT out? No?

Jon has chosen to furiously focus in on me, and then baffligly say I'm attacking him (???) because for some reason, I'm this weeks punching bag.

I'm actually really interested in it too, Jon. Why are you angry at me? You surely can see you've misread the situation and I'm happy to continue to restate and clarify my point.

-- Trayce (spamspanke...) (webmail), December 13th, 2005 1:12 AM. (trayce) (later) (link)

It's not unique to any particular ethnic group or religion. It's the same as fundyism or nazism or anything. And certainly, the idea amongst "white" Australians that they "own" the beach, or the suburbs around it is part of some kind of sick, misguided social conditioning too, and I think that article about mateship and allegiance is pretty much bang on. All I know is that I'm very uncomfortable, and it frankly sucks that tolerant, open-minded people feel bad for what other people are doing.

I agree that we need to start modifying, but god knows where. Our values-neutral schools? Hardly. Parents? Ah, but that's the genesis in some parts.

This not very coherent, bit rambling and rubbish, damn you Finney for raising the bar. But I just had an interesting chat with a colleague who married and divorced a Lebanese man, and it was food for thought.

It is a good thing this isn't WWW.LIVEJOURNAL.COM/~TRAYCE or this shit would be locked!

I'm bitchin, but I'm not a bitch.

Have you ever seen or heard of Effie?

Show me who said this and where, because I sure didn't.

"racism as being fostered by second generation immigrants and white shock jocks"

saying that these people are involved is not the same as saying these are the only people involved. what is it about this that you can't understand?

"nasty implication that the perpetrators of all this are POOR WHITE TRASH"

you see this because that's what you'd like to believe but nobody is saying or implying this at all because it's actually not true.

xposts

xpost what Jim said, too.

1 out of 3.

Id be happy to debate your view of the current clashes between lebanese/middle eastern immigrants and the "white" racists/instigators in Cronulla Jon, if only you'd actually DISCUSS IT and not scream at me.

- In Australia, Surfers = Skinheads- Trayce = not fat

Lets all sing Farnsey songs or somehting.

Um. Have you never seen what happens on threads when Jon posts like this? Once you miss the window of reasonableness, you might as well stop trying.

So, AFL. Poofters in shorts, or art for the ages?

Those are mutually-exclusive?

Yeah you know Ive been here 15 years and never stepped foot inside the MCG!

In a secular (and yes, we are still very secular) country, we're pretty uncomfortable with people who would say they are Muslim first and Australian second, because denominationalism has always been second to nationalism.

I think this is otm. Partly because it is an "other" religion, but more because it seems generally speaking Australians are rather unreligious. And yes, I imagine a lot of people would feel threatened/unfcomfortable at people like those clerics who've been declaring they want to Islamiscise the whole country.

I'm sure a hardcore christian would have no problem with another christian saying they wanted to turn everyone to christ as part of their duty, so it is hypocritical.

I dont think the Cronulla riots have much to do with any kind of religion though. Its all about the history of that area, it'd seem. Ive been vaguely aware of the Lakemba problems since the "leb gang rape" thing ACA/60 minuutes hammered away at in recent years, but I wasn't at all aware of this territorial pissing going on at Cronulla and Brighton le Sands beaches.

Also, they have thermoses of tea.

kit, i read something about Italian/Greek's fighting with 'surfies' (against 'rockers'?) back in the 60's and migrant families from Bankstown being shuntered off to the unfashionable end of the beaches. what was the deal then?

"all in all
youre just another prick with a board"

was a fond refrain from my scumbag surf wannabee mates from north of parra.

It may be that there's now a struggle for power going on within the white population as well as between various ethnic, social, religious and cultural groups. Who owns Australua? One thing that does seem clear, however, is that there is no future for the white contigent that stands for footy, meat pies and Holden cars: they are numerous, but increasingly outnumbered with every decade. Aaaah fuck 'em, that's my view. Fuck 'em all.

AUSTRALIANS BY ANCESTRY
Total population: 21 million
Australian: 6.7m (38.7%)
English: 6.4m (36.5%)
Irish: 1.9m (11%)
Italian: 800,000 (4.6%)
German: 742,000 (4.3%)
Chinese: 557,000 (3.2%)
Scottish: 540,000 (3.1%)
Greek: 376,000 (2.2%)
Dutch: 269,000 (1.5%)
Lebanese: 162,000 (0.9%)
Indian: 157,000 (0.9%)
Vietnamese: 157,000 (0.9%)
Polish: 151,000 (0.9%)

All 742,000 Australians of German ancestory can be found in Adelaide, of course...

are there really that many britishes? wow

In any case, I don't think Shortbread Biscuits can ever beat Chinese Take-Away.

And that's a fact.

This = aborigines, or just people who identify Australian?

i have some real love/hate issues when it comes to australia. mostly the latter when it comes to the sutherland shire. i feel a whole lot better about australia since i left it, but when i think of an australian i still see something like this in my minds eye:

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3178/nswriots6vj.jpg

guess im reverse rascist or something.

Then it seems very low! So do you get a similar thing to America, with people who are to the naked eye completely Australian saying "three of my 16 great-great-grandparent were Irish and so am I"?

no offense!!

It depends how long you think it takes to integrate with the attitudes of the population at large. I mean, ideally, the Italian/Greek immigrants and fifth-generation Australians would be banding together to beat down these horrible Lebanese people, but there are deeper prejudices at work!

If you directly ask a second-generation citizen in the US what their nationality is, you'll usually hear "I'm American." Now, if you ask someone in the population at large, "What are you, you know, ethnically?" you'll get either a very direct answer because there's still a clear lineage or ties to an ethnic community, or something more hazy. I, for one, have no clue how I'd answer that. I usually say my family's been in the area a long time and I have some sort of vague European ancestry. Is this similar in Australia?

In fact there was an ad that gently mocked that, a while back (a lamb ad maybe?). The son's got his pretty girl over, who is asian in appearance, and the parents are all awkwardly polite and ask "so, where you from then?" and she looks bewildered and replies "uh... Camberwell?" in a really aussie accent. Something like that.

xxpost

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/nz-posters-call-for-race-riots/2005/12/15/1134500941776.html

Posters inciting racial violence and calling for an "Australian style" riot in New Zealand have received condemnation from the nation's politicians.

The posters, pasted up at Wellington railway stations, called for New Zealanders to show "white power".

They follow a weekend race riot in Sydney's south and days of apparent payback attacks across several south-east suburbs.

"If Sydney can do it so can we ... let's take back our land" the posters say.

United Future leader Peter Dunne said the race-fuelled violence in Sydney is not something New Zealand should emulate.

"There is much to admire about Australia but copying the stupid attitudes of drunken thugs at Cronulla in Sydney is not the way forward for a peaceful New Zealand," he said.

"When the police catch up with these idiots, I hope part of their punishment will be a lesson in New Zealand's demographic trends which will show them they're fighting a losing battle."

The NZ National Party was also quick to condemn the posters.

"There is no place in New Zealand for these kinds of threatening, inflammatory actions," party leader Don Brash said.

"The idea that some people cannot have the same depth of feeling for this country because of the colour of their skin is bigoted nonsense."

The posters were pasted up yesterday at railway stations in Wellington's western suburbs, Johnsonville and Khandallah and have been attributed to white supremacist group - White Crusaders of the Racial Holy War.

Dr Brash said the group was "a small, fascist underbelly, hell-bent on causing division and destroying New Zealand's egalitarian ethos ... they are thugs and bigots".

Race Relations Commissioner Joris de Bres said he had not heard of the group.

But he was not surprised it existed in NZ.

Amen brother

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/aborigines-may-be-technically-banned-from-cbd-20100213-nyaj.html

A draconian law prohibiting indigenous Australians from entering central Brisbane after dark may still exist, an activist says.

Heather Castledine - co-ordinator of a celebratory march marking the second anniversary of prime minister Kevin Rudd's apology to the stolen generation - claims Aborigines may be technically banned from entering the area.

"They were banned from since the beginning of settlement," she said today, ahead of the walk from Boundary St at Spring Hill to Boundary St at West End.

I had heard that was why these streets were called Boundary, but now confirmed.

maybe shd be renamed imo. Especially considering west end is like the 'forward-thinking'/bohemian hub of Brisbane and it's its main street lol.

oh australia

exactly!

this is brisbane we're talking about tbh.

isn't it still technically illegal for five or more people to gather in one spot?

Wow *feels slightly ill* what the hell was JW's problem with me in this thread? I'd forgotten about it, but reading it again makes me feel a bit gross.

I enjoyed the thread, but it did puzzle me why you engaged with him at all when he was obviously trolling.

It's quite interesting the idea of Aussies speaking rough and acting proper, when most often (here anyway) language is the first thing to be targeted. Is it still thus?

People certainly "tell it like it is", I guess. The issue of racism here's gotten evem more tangled in recent times with the Indian student violence in Melbourne, and such.

On the other hand, Pauline Hanson has annouced she's had enough here, and is leaving. She's moving to the UK. The ironing is delicious on so many levels.

Trayce I can't believe you blamed Alan Jones for this you vicious HOMOPHOBE

Even more tangled, what with Indian students attemepting to incinerate their vehicles for insurance fraud, accidentally setting themsleves on fire then blaming the locals for racial vilification...

that was kind of amusing tbh

:-)

In addition, Indian students being stabbed on the way to work, which was reported as an example of vicious racist (white) Australians in the Indian press... until it was revealed that the perpetrators were Indian themselves.

And that the majority of the reported incidents of assaults that are quoted by the police are actually robberies. Of 7/11s and taxis. Which are majority staffed by Indian/Sri Lankans.

(not that it is ANY EXCUSE for assaults/robbers, it just goes a small way to explaining the sudden (?) disparity).

But yeah Mr insurance fraud "OMG RACISTS SET ME ON FIRE" was... I didnt know wether to laugh or be horrified at the outcome, there.

Trayce's point about 7/11s and taxis is true to an extent but obv many of these attacks have been occuring when the victims are walking to and from train stations, work, home etc - i.e. in situations where statistically they are (or should be) no more likely to be a target than members of any other ethnic group in the same area.

I think the issue poses an interesting conundrum:

1) some people say it's racist

2) some people say they're opportunistic crimes (i.e. Indians represent "easy targets" as they often carry expensive electronic devices etc. use public transport late at night and live in poorer areas).

It seems to me that both of these things are true, to the extent that such opportunistic crimes are to some extent racist. Which, I think, holds true in two ways:

1) the disproportionate targeting of Indians involves racial profiling - Indian students as cashed-up soft targets.

2) I think there's a certain expression of thwarted class resentment here - i.e. Indians frequently are renting in areas dominated by poor "white trash" but aren't (or don't appear to be) as poor themselves - certainly they're better educated, more upwardly mobile, consequently more likely to succeed by and large. I wouldn't be surprised if the "racist twist" to the attacks is a sense of meting out payback for the victim's apparent material success - this seems typical of a lot of uninformed xenophobic politics of some unemployed and underemployed peeps, who don't hate rich white people (who they never see anyway due to geographical separation) so much as recent migrant (or transient international student) communities who they perceive as leapfrogging past them on the lower rungs of the heirarchy, stealing "their" jobs etc.

otm

Aye, agreed.

Yes, there was a good letter in the paper a few weeks ago from an Indian doctor who ahs lived in Australia for years pointing out that just because the dogier suburbs don't look like the slums of Mumbai it doesn't mean that they aren't dangeous.

As I've said before, I wouldn't go near Footscray if you paid me and gave me a bodyguard.

nothin wrong with the scrazy!

yarraville otoh, good god

Trayce just wouldn't go there 'cause it's on the wrongside of the river. And Yarraville is now the upmarket part of Footers.

On an unrelated note I just googled Mahatma Cote.

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/object3/210/52/n81891799162_1710.jpg

Its true Sash ;_;

I just read the wiki entry for the Twelfth Man, speaking of... and the "comedy" subcontinent names are listed without a shred of irony, and looking at them now they seem pretty unfunny. I guess I thought Ahbrok Miandad hilairous when I was like, 12, but yeesh.

'akhib myteethinajar besidethebed'!

Yarraville becomes more and more a suburb of Williamstown (as opposed to Footscray) each day. TBH I don't think this is an entirely awful thing.

Seddon meanwhile still has some sort of relationship with Footscray - at least to the extent that they share custody of that cluster of gentrified blocks around Middle Footscray station.

Footscray is named after Foots Cray, a locality south-east of London

nominative determinism tbh

Hey don't forget Harbhajan Singh and Andrew Symons.

i know u read bb too but

http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/books/hot-water-over-spell-check-20100417-sksv.html

http://www.reubenyau.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/blackpeople21.gif

haaaa

ebay otm

rare l@@k

http://www.theage.com.au/travel/travel-news/error-blamed-for-racist-term-in-google-tourism-ad-20100511-ush2.html

wtf

Gotta say, on my recent visit Australia gave the impression of being more inclusive and multicultural than it was five years ago during my last trip. I noticed a couple of things in the media examining the country's reputation for racism, and there seemed to be an effort being made to move away from old attitudes. Then again I basically stuck to metropolitan areas this time. Have you noticed a change in your time there, Jabba/Pete?

Mr Nicholson said on his blog digitalOZ he made the discovery by accident after misspelling an acronym.

lol, it is kind of hilarious how explanations like this make the explainer seem about a bazillion times more guilty

everything you've heard about australia being backwards and fucking bigoted is absolutely true

there are plenty of good people here but fuck the braindead majority that lives on murdoch drivel and votes for the shittiest most revolting fucking bigots they can find

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/15/australian-party-leader-hails-speech-calling-for-final-solution-on-muslim-migration

Is racism a particularly large problem in Australia?

https://images.thewest.com.au/publication/B88929487Z/1534316549955_G851PCINH.2-0.jpg?imwidth=800&impolicy=.auto

https://www.pedestrian.tv/content/uploads/2018/08/katter-bullshit-1-637x397.jpg

https://cdn4.techly.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/bob-katter-799x423.jpg

https://1v1d1e1lmiki1lgcvx32p49h8fe-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/1534306629-bob-katter-aap.jpg

http://www.abc.net.au/cm/rimage/9555184-16x9-large.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PHDtT4ShX-Q/Vhr3ct_fg0I/AAAAAAAAECk/qlcsHln-X_c/s640/bob%2Bkatter%2B1341075600000.jpg

What do you reckon?

that is the best movie villain in a minute

This seems a real Sydney thing though. This shit just doesn't happen anywhere else, only Sydney. I don't know why.

bet Trayce feels foolish now that rampant African gangs have made it impossible for anyone to go to dinner in Melbourne

Hahaha yeah I read that post and loled a bit.

Fuck me Jon was an asshole. D'you know he was even worse off-board to me - he used to send me screeds of abuse on Messenger and then turn around and demand to know what I looked like in my underpants :/

Apparently Katter's background is lebanese BTW.

Katter's paternal grandfather, Carl Katter, was a Lebanese immigrant; his other grandparents were Australian.[4][5] Despite his family history, Katter regards defining his grandfather as Lebanese as a racist slander.[6]

You couldn't make this guy up tbh.

During their 1964 Australian tour, The Beatles were pelted by eggs from some unknown assailants. Katter, then a university student, later came forward and admitted his involvement.

... he's not all bad then.

In November 1989, Katter claimed there were almost no homosexuals in North Queensland. He promised to walk backwards from Bourke if they represented more than 0.001 percent of the population.

... and yet.

Hahahaha I remember that! Stupid old cnut.

Katter is a crazed loon who is a complete joke to just about everyone in Australia under the age of 65 bar some support in the racist Deep North. He's as representative of Australia in about the same way that Tommy Robinson is representative of the UK.

There's a huge amount of racism in Australia. But having lived for long periods in both France and the UK, I don't personally think the problem is any bigger in Australia than it is in those two countries. I've certainly encountered a lot of shocking, barefaced racism in France. If I was an Arab, and I had the choice to live in either Australia or France, I know which one I'd choose.

There's less of that barefaced insults type here (yer Blair Cottrels and whatnot aside) but there's a real creep of everyday people hating on, as an example, outspoken Aus Muslims for daring to have an opinion on their own country. The avalanche of shit copped by Yassmin Abdel-Magied was just pathetic. Thing is, I cant work out if thats not just racism but also a weird prickly insular protectiveness, if you poke ANYTHING to do with ANZACs/soldiers/the war a certain set of the community goes INSANE. And they aren't all old people either - I see it from a lot of young white men (well, if nasty facebook abuse is anything to go by anyway)

And while in her case, that was genuine racism ("how dare a MUSLIM tell us how to think on ANZAC day go back to yr own country rarrr froth"), its also happened to people like ... I forget her name, the gappy toothed feminist comedian who got in hot water for razzing on ANZACs a few years back.

This whole ORSTRAYLIAN VALUUZ bullshit gets on my tits.

Yes if I was going to implant an assassination compulsion in a Manchurian-Candidate-style operative, I'd make sure it was triggered by the word "mateship".

http://www.theshovel.com.au/2018/08/16/government-denounces-blatant-racism-calls-for-return-to-thinly-veiled-racism/

“This sort of speech has no place in Australia’s parliament in 2018, or in Melbourne for that matter, where it’s impossible to grab a coffee these days without being accosted by a Sudanese criminal”.

Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton echoed the Prime Minister’s comments. “I never once used the term ‘White Australia Policy’ when suggesting that white South Africans asylum seekers should be given preference over non-white asylum seekers. Mr Anning should be ashamed,” he said.

Yep that's pretty much pitch perfect! Dutton is absolute scum but it's Turnbull the enabler that really makes my blood boil

Dutton is what it says on the tin - a QLD copper.

I hate him so much.

Fkn potato

Dutton is a a prize cnut. I hope we run him out on a rail he next time he sets foot in Melbourne.

The Sudanese consulate is up the high street from home. I feel like popping in with tray of coffees.

Katter is a crazed loon who is a complete joke to just about everyone in Australia under the age of 65 bar some support in the racist Deep North. He's as representative of Australia in about the same way that Tommy Robinson is representative of the UK.

There's a huge amount of racism in Australia. But having lived for long periods in both France and the UK, I don't personally think the problem is any bigger in Australia than it is in those two countries. I've certainly encountered a lot of shocking, barefaced racism in France. If I was an Arab, and I had the choice to live in either Australia or France, I know which one I'd choose.

Tommy Robinson's not an elected politician, also he's just out of prison. You're probably on safer ground with France.

So racist speech-maker Anning got 19 votes to get elected to the Senate? lol

Senate preference deals and fucking wieird. People have no idea who they are voting for.

Lazy fuckers need to number the boxes. How-to-vote cards are for cunts.

I forget her name, the gappy toothed feminist comedian who got in hot water for razzing on ANZACs a few years back.
Catherine Deveny?

Yumi Stynes also copped it over insulting Aussie Hero(tm) Ben Roberts-Smith. George Negus got off easy. I wonder why.

(Ben's having his own problems come to light recently.)

Yes, Deveny. I'm not a fan of hers but she shouldntve copped the shit she did over that.

White supremacist former cop about to be PM. What a fucking shambles

ffs

Former Queensland copper more to the point,.

Alan Jones using the n-word on radio - welcome to the lucky country!!!!!!!

No Alan, pretty sure you can’t use that expression. pic.twitter.com/B6X42t8GPH

— David Woiwod (@DavidWoiwod) August 23, 2018

well, if it wasn't a particularly large problem before, it's about to be now

now it seems as thoough scomo will challenge dutton. goodness me we really are spoiled for choice!

ScoMo vs Dutton. Never did I envisage the day when ScoMo might seem the best candidate

Oh why wont Alan Jones just die of a heart attack already.

69 to 68 against referring Dutton’s eligibility to the high court, Trumble cast the deciding vote

fuck me, i guess I may as well just burn both passports, really lucked out with the US and Aus

so who thinks Dutton will call an election in two months, wait until May, or piss off everyone and push it until November 2019?

xpost

I voted in SF in 2013, let’s meet at the embassy and have a 13-hour FAP afterward Veg

lol

parliamentary citizenship fiasco revealed that I’m probably an NZ citizen, gotta go to LA to check at their embassy before the midterms

srs?

if Ludlam’s dad’s immigration made him a dual citizen, mine should have

(he died 24 yrs ago so I can’t check any details with him)

🚨 dude that runs concentration camps loses to dude that started concentration camps

gastro vs dysentery

Here's what I don't understand - why did those 3 senators rock up to the press yesterday and resign on the grounds that "Turnbull no longer has the numbers", and yet the spill motion result was 45-40 - meaning Turnbull would've had the numbers to block the spill, but for those 3 senators?

ScoMo's LNP I presume - well, I shouldn't, but I hope, I guess - will lose the election, which will probably mean that Dutton, Abbott & their cronies will start to say that the election would've been winnable had the LNP pandered further to racists under Sgt Dutton. I suppose it's still a better outcome than Dutton as PM now, but when "catastrophic mess resulting in bigoted moron becoming PM" still works out to be the preferred option then its hard to feel any relief.

Also fuck turnbull forever for so many reasons but especially the way he's going to claim marriage equality as his great legacy. He did everything he could to slow down that change and protect himself, and put hundreds of thousands of people (me included) through hell in the process.