The Mist

the radio adaptation was available on cassete as "The Mist in 3-D Sound" and it was totally freaky.

trailer!

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809834165/video/3906309/

shows too much:-/ but it does look almost exactly how i pictured everything from the novella

Gah! Okay I'm gonna say most of all: I want the albino pterodactyls to be really awesome. After pondering their wonder and terror, I will watch the trailer.

it's kind of a sucky trailer to be honest. makes it look like a two-part miniseries on abc or something:-/

Oh man crazy apocalypse lady looks like Bruce McCulloch in drag.

ltebloomer otm

There's nothing like a trailer that ends with a child whispering in terror.

'two-part miniseries on ABC" is basically how I envision every Stephen King story now. Starring the guy from Wings, too.

was that Chloe Sevigny slapping Jackson Pollock's wife?

dude i love this novella!!!

so scary!!

i always visualized it as a rad movie too.

Man this doesn't look good. The monsters look fake, too.

I don't remember the battle of good vs. evil 'kill the boy' stuff in the novella/CD? Didn't it end with them just staring out into the mist waiting to die?

wow the trailer looks simultaneously exactly how i imagined the movie's setting and like a SCTV parody.

was that Chloe Sevigny slapping Jackson Pollock's wife?

This sounds like an anagram...

Like "I saw Oprah W. ram Marx aside," one my friend made.

A Diarrhea Sap Was Mix Worm?

somehow it all makes sense

I saw this trailer earlier tonight. I have that radio drama on mp3.

wow the trailer looks simultaneously exactly how i imagined the movie's setting and like a SCTV parody.

-- s1ocki, Friday, August 31, 2007 1:07 AM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Link

otm

parody

hmm, unfortunately I find it impossible to take a story called The Mist srsly as IN MY BRANE it just sounds like a comedy piistake of James Herbert's The Fog coz Mist < Fog like "the beast from the 3 inch puddle" or summat.

too bad about your "BRANE"

stephen king needs to stay away from religious bullshit and just bring on the mist monsters. but i dunno, maybe it will be as amazing as dreamcatcher.

This one creeps me out almost as much as The Raft does, so I am totally looking forward to it, and it better not suck.

BAHAHAHA, amazing as Dreamcatcher? I'm so confused as to how you mean this.

The creature is a terrifying eel-like creature (nicknamed the "Shit Weasel") with a long set of ferocious jaws, and by the time Jonesy returns, he is too late to save his friend, and Beaver is killed when the Weasel flies into his face and devours it off screen. Jonesy escapes the bathroom and tries to keep the Weasel trapped inside, but accidentally pulls out the doorknob and is approached out of nowhere by a gargantuan gray alien creature, who explodes into a cloud of red dust, which Jonesy inhales. As a result, the alien, known as Mr. Gray, takes over Jonesy's body. Mr. Gray has a meticulous British accent, which distinguishes him from Jonesy's American accent, as both inhabit the same body and argue in back-to-back perspectives.

BAHAHAHA, amazing as Dreamcatcher? I'm so confused as to how you mean this.

Okay, I'm not the only one.

We were playing Scattegories and Dreamcatcher was the only horror movie category word I could think of beginning with D. I argued that that's where you'll find it in the video store, in the horror section, but I still got voted down.

dreamcatcher is kind of fun in a batshit/wtf?! kind of way. worst ending i've ever seen in a theatrical film by far.

I thought the whole mind-library thing was kind of cool. I still think about that sometimes.

Though has anyone noticed yet

The Fog trailer: "There is something IN the fog!"
The Mist trailer: "There is SOMETHING in the mist!"

teh jonesy stuff in dreamcatcher is my favourite

"project arrowhead"

Blindsided by sudden rush of excitement: alt-critics Josh Rothkopf and Jim Ridley (both trustworthy in my opinion) are both raving about this one! The former said it's almost sure to be in his year end top 10.

i got passes to see a preview screening next monday. psyched!

me too

i really want to watch dreamcatcher again

please report back! i'm pleasantly optomistic about this.

dreamcatcher is hilarious. jonesy!!!!!

i support andre braugher in all of his endeavors

but i probably won't see this

it's more of an emotional support than a financial support

go andre

i support andre braugher in all of his endeavors

which judging from the preview includes getting killed at the beginning of the movie

the fog, the mist, wake me when The Steamer-Induced Kitchen Condensation comes out

directed by Chantal Akerman

score!

so despite having a lot working against it i thought this ended up pretty scary!

i want to talk about it and spoiler-ish ending stuff with someone

And another one comes out in favor. I can not fathom it but I'm actually excited for a Darabont-King movie.

have you read the story?

save for some stuff it's quite faithful.

the acting and some of the effects are pretty... tv movie-ish... but despite that i found it worked

Yep, it's been awhile (like, probably 15 years -- when I was still in grade school), but I read it and remember liking it (especially the ending).

I say a lot of things against Darabont but I'll give him this: he's a faithful King adaptationalist.

he's been at it since the early 80s!

just came back from seeing this tonight (with a rowdy preview screening audience). pretty good. ending was silly though. it's gonna drop off after the first week because of that ending.

can we talk about the ending?

yes!

SPOILER!!!!!!!

wasn't it weird how it was simultaneously way happier and way sadder than the original? bizarre!!! like he wanted to change it but couldn't figure out which way and went for OOOOOOOOHHH NOOOOOOOO the IRONY instead

still... i dug it!!

it really had me for a lot of it. im not sure whether to credit darabont or whether this was the kind of thing you really couldn't screw up, being as how it probably looks exactly the same in everyone's imaginations

I was just thinking that Skeleton Crew is absolutely filled with downbeat question-mark endings.

except "survivor type" which ends with a delicious meal!

I love bleak endings but this one was so over-the-top and seemed to came out of nowhere! I personally would have kept the novella's ending, which was more ominous and Lovecraftian.

You gotta give Darabont props though. It was pretty ballsy way to end a flick, even if i don't think it worked.

i am thinking from the way you guys are talking that the gaint egl spets on teh cra?

the novella sort of drifts off in a way i could see a filmmaker finding frustrating... but ya he really goes the other way with this one.

the giant leg is wearing a high heel shoe omg its a big beautiful ady

it's a prequel to Tootsie

i am thinking from the way you guys are talking that the gaint egl spets on teh cra?

-- moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, November 20, 2007 3:56 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i wish!

i will definitely see this again, though! i liked the movie a lot. it had a very self-consciously old fashioned b-movie feel to it, without being campy.

it was really pretty horrifying in parts.

it definitely delivers

the giant leg is wearing a high heel shoe omg its a big beautiful ady

Whoa!

I need to stop reading this thread.

lol

LOS ANGELES, CA
Tuesday, November 20, 2007
8:30AM

In preparation for the opening of the highly anticipated Thanksgiving release, THE MIST, Los Angeles was covered in a dense foggy mist last night, reducing visibility to only a few feet in some areas (**see full AP coverage below). Dense fog advisories are still in place in the Los Angeles area and drivers are, of course, advised to use extreme caution on the roads. A publicity stunt? Or a eerily timed Stephen King-style wake up call to moviegoers?

You be the judge! But more importantly, have a safe and Happy Thanksgiving!

From the Academy Award®-nominated screenwriter and director of „The Shawshank Redemption‰ and „The Green Mile‰, and Stephen King comes “The Mist” David Drayton (Thomas Jane) and his young son Billy (Nathan Gamble) are among a large group of terrified townspeople trapped in a local grocery store by a strange, otherworldly mist. David is the first to realize that there are things lurking in the mist, deadly, horrifying things creatures not of this world. Survival depends on everybody in the store pulling together, but is that possible, given human nature? As reason crumbles in the face of fear and panic, David begins to wonder what terrifies him more: the monsters in the mist˜or the ones inside the store, the human kind, the people that until now had been his friends and neighbors? In this legendary tale of terror from master storyteller Stephen King, the thin veneer of civilization is stripped away, the masks are discarded, and the true horror is revealed as us. The Mist is an MGM release of a Dimension Films presentation of a Darkwoods production

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**Heavy fog triggers flight delays at Southern California airport

LOS ANGELES (AP) ˜ Thick coastal fog shut down one of two runways for arriving airplanes at Los Angeles International Airport Monday night, causing delays for passengers at the start of the busy Thanksgiving week.
Air traffic controllers were only letting pilots land on the south runway as a soupy marine layer rolled into LAX, Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Ian Gregor said.

Meanwhile, departing flights were delayed by about 15 minutes because of poor visibility, he said.

“The controllers can’t see a lot of the air field, so they have to slow down traffic as a precaution,” Gregor said.

The National Weather Service issued a dense fog advisory for coastal areas from Santa Barbara to Long Beach, warning that visibility was reduced to about a quarter of a mile.

The fog was expected to lift by 9 a.m. Tuesday, the NWS said.

Earlier Monday, fog was to blame for delays for airline passengers at Bob Hope Airport in Burbank.

The fog prevented 12 planes from landing Sunday night for a Monday morning turnaround, leaving scores of passengers stranded, airport spokesman Victor Gill said.

“It was quite severe,” Gill said. “The runway is 400 feet from my office window, and I couldn’t see it.”

The suburban airport is in the eastern San Fernando Valley, about 15 miles northwest of downtown Los Angeles.

Gregor said that in addition to the problems at Burbank, several flights were diverted from Santa Monica Airport and some flights were delayed at LAX and San Diego International Airport. Things got back to normal later in the morning.

Motorists encountered areas of thick fog late Sunday and early Monday.

Authorities in San Diego County said heavy fog may have contributed to the death of a 21-year-old man in a car crash in Oceanside early Monday. The California Highway Patrol said the man crashed on state Route 78 after making an unsafe maneuver for an unknown reason.

glad to hear this is decent! the trailer looked scary (but horror movie trailers are pretty much always better than the movies themselves, right?).

totally looking forward to this. especially since i realized the male lead isn't lorenzo lamas.

how about a movie based off of Myst, eh?

If this movie turned out to be as good as I'm hoping it to be, it will make up for Brian De Palma turning in yet another disappointment.

ebert gave it two stars. in contrast, he gave that disney animated/live action thing three. i don't much trust ebert these days.

Seriously. His review of Beowulf was otm though.

But I guess The Mist wasn't middlebrow Oscar-bait enough for him.

enchanted was good!!!

you guys, this ending.

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I loved it right up until like the last five minutes. So unnecessary, so stupid, such a cliche. Fade to mist with Mickey Mantle making the gun-waving motion to the old guy. Fin. WHY IS THAT SO HARD???????

totally agree about the ending.

I liked the movie. hated the CGI and disliked the cliche religious character but ultimately it was a fun movie with a very bleak feel

great movie. I liked the cgi. the religious character pissed me off and I cant help feeling like I would have done something different if I was in the main characters shoes.

I could write a better ending:

bang bang bang bang.
gets out of the car.
screams for a while.
then he runs off into the mist towards where he was driving.
he swats off giant bugs and dodges others.
he rips up new creatures with his bare hands.
then the giganticest creature comes and eats him but not before he looks it in the eye and stabs it with a knife.
the end.

i would've ended with the *SPOILER*big critter walking overhead, and them looking at each other like "oh shit"*END SPOILER*

I think part of my enjoyment of the movie came from the fact that I sort of am bothered by insects to some degree. fascinated by them and terrified by them (some of them at least)

this was like 5 times better then I anticipated. my favorite part of these types of movies is in the beginning when people start to sense that their world is unraveling. and I actually liked the tragic ending as is. it probably helped that when I drove home it was just barely drizzling out and the highway was totally closed off (as close as you get to the end of the world in st. louis) but lit up by these huge flood lights for construction.

oh and the sparse audience i saw this with laughed when ms. bible-thumper went off on her moonwalk rant and cheered when she bit it.

This movie was pretty bad. I saw Enchanted straight after and it was very enjoyable, and certainly much better than The Mist. I suppose credit for trying certain things, but that doesn't extend very far when he fails miserably at all of them. Andre Baugher was the only interesting thing about it, and that was despite of the script.

I've not read the Ebert review, but I still find myself disagreeing with him more often since he's come back from his illness. Part of me wonders whether he's just really digging a lot of stuff because he was out of the loop for a while and is excited to see movies again, but that's for another thread. Totally disagreed with him about The Golden Compass, but again, for another thread.

The ending of the Mist was really terrible as well.

The whole problem with The Mist was that the idea of monsters coming out of some mist wasn't even the least realistic aspect of the film.

I can understand some zealot rising to power in an apocalyptic situation, but not this obnoxious twat.
Even worse: Andre Baugher refuses to believe what's going on. DUDE JUST KILLED A MONSTER 20 FEET AWAY AND THERE'S BLOOD AND A TENTACLE HEAD AND HE CAN'T CONVINCE YOU WHAT'S HAPPENING? WALK THE 20 GODDAMN FEET! AAAARGH!!! And why didn't any of the giant monsters ever just step on the store? Between all the layers of nonsense and b-movie exchanges and general misanthropy this was pretty turdish.

The last 10-15 minutes was far and away the best part of the film. Especially the GIANT creature. That was as beautiful as it was terrifying. Made me feel a little less lousy.

Great movie. I hated the audience I saw it with though. I don't think I want to see it again anytime soon but every monster/bug scene was awesome.

Did this come out in the UK yet?

bang bang bang bang.
gets out of the car.
screams for a while.
then he runs off into the mist towards where he was driving.
he swats off giant bugs and dodges others.
he rips up new creatures with his bare hands.
then the giganticest creature comes and eats him but not before he looks it in the eye and stabs it with a knife.
the end.

See, this is the ending I was expecting. The real one was so much more badass.

funny spoiler

http://oneshort.ytmnd.com/

i want my money back.

This was shown at the Edinburgh 'Dead By Dawn' horror fest last weekend. The audience loved it. The bleak ending reminded me of NOTLD, and is prefigured by the hero's asshole behavior throughout. As my partner pointed out, what do you expect of someone who is first shown working on a horrible book cover painting of a Clint Eastwood clone action hero. Oh, and the monsters are great.

hahahha he's working on the cover of a stephen king book!

Hah! Be interested to know what teh 'Kingster' makes of this.

i am about to watch this because i was too lazy to go to a movie theater.

my only real problem with the movie is that it makes obvious all the things that worked more ambiguously in the novella.

my only real problem with the movie is THE ENDING

my only real problem is everything

fuck this movie

posted elsewhere but I guess it should go here:

the mist - blah, watch the host instead.

the ending was interesting tho. it was problematic in that the director didn't earn the moment (probably why people react so negatively to it). on paper the ending's in line with the rest of the movie's concerns; faith, tenacity, how people act under pressure. but this is stephen king here, not arthur miller. if the rest of the movie didn't burn so many cycles on its facile social commentary I might actually watch the black & white version - maybe the cgi doesn't look so crap in that one.

You're right, Edward, I think it mostly has to do with the quick ending. The rest (beginning and middle) was actually quite okay (sans that pasty soldier dude and the way he was shot at times) but by god the ending was crap.

just watched this tonight on dvd and was really surprised by how great it was. i'm no film buff/expert, but i thought there were a lot really interesting uses of camera angles which gave it a more 'cinematic' (can't think of a better word :/) feel than the average monster horror flick. i was a bit leery at the beginning - some really really bad dialogue - but that seemed to dissipate about halfway through.

LOVED the ending - totally unexpected, completely tragic.

yah mist is great

This still isn't out theatrically in the UK! (June, I hear). Saw the import DVD, though... and... yes, the ending blew it for me.

The DVD is cool - includes the option to watch the film (as Darabont wanted) in Black & White, which works very well in some scenes.

not to be "mist"!

LOVED the ending - totally unexpected, completely tragic.

i liked the ending, too. but the giant monster should've come back and yelled "NOW YOU SEE WHO IS THE REAL MONSTER!"

i liked this movie a lot! my only issue was that jane didn't really have the chops for some of the more emotional scenes, especially at the end. him yelling "NOOOO! NOOOOOOOO!" was a little funny

I really loved this. It was just so nightmarishly end-of-worldish.

The ending = pish, though. Like something out of the creakest Tales Of The Unexpected, one of the ones even dumb me can see a mile off and dread with a "no, don't make it end like that".

I was trying to remember the line that Marcia Gay Harden (who I thought was godawful, but that might not have been her fault) fires off during one of her spiels. Something about "squatting down and shitting out a new friend" or something? Does anyone remember this?

i will never see this but i refuse to believe marcia gay harden is not great in it

wtf is this http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0999872/

Jared Padalecki ... Thomas Kinkade

Marcia Gay Harden ... Maryanne Kinkade

hope it includes him grabbing asses at a strip club & pissing on disneyworld

Amanda Dunfrey: I just want you to know that it's okay... being scared. And, well, if you need a friend, someone to talk too...

Mrs. Carmody: I have a friend. God, up above. I talk to him everyday. Don't you condescend me.

Amanda Dunfrey: I'm sorry?

Mrs. Carmody: Not ever. You don't mock me.

Amanda Dunfrey: That's not what I was doing.

Mrs. Carmody: I'll tell you what. The day I need a friend like you, I'll just have myself a little squat and shit one out.

Dan Miller: What are you saying? What are you proposing?

Mrs. Carmody: If we all prepare... to meet our maker...

Jim Grondin: [interrupting her] Oh, prepare to meet shit! Lady, your tongue must be hung in the middle so that it can waggle at both ends.

Mrs. Carmody: The end of times has come. Not in flames, but in mist.

Mrs. Carmody: We have Judas in our midst!

I think Andre Braugher should've walked up to Thomas Jane at the end, clapped him on the back, and said, "You're a real dumbass."

http://oneshort.ytmnd.com/

terrible, terrible movie. not even entertainingly goofy like Dreamcatcher. the ending wasn't even shocking, just some arbitrary "gotcha" shit like the Twilight Zone where the last bookworm on earth breaks his glasses. and there's gotta be a hundred ways to kill 5 people with 4 bullets!

"And y'know what? I PUSHED that tree onto your boathouse."

and there's gotta be a hundred ways to kill 5 people with 4 bullets!

1. vertical trampolines

2. silly putty

3. lord custos tribute thread

4. if two of the people are actually siamese twins

5. http://www.vedicsciences.net/intelligent/rube-goldberg.jpg

that's all i can think of?

Ah c'mon , I was shouting at the end, "just stick yer heads together, two deaths for the price of one!". Flatmate thought this was rather callous but I wasn't the one getting all murder/suicide pact happy just 'cause I ran out of gas.

Still can't believe how badly they fucked up the ending.

i'm not sure. it's the choice between OMG meta-horror (ie end it with the external shot of the car and the scream) or OMG personal hell (end it as they did). on an aesthetic level, i'd have preferred the former. but i don't mind me some creaky tales of the unexpected action.

i'm going to have to see the B&W version, though. and then maybe just stop it three minutes before the end.

i've just got back from the cinema and briefly considered turning the flat upside down looking for my dead can dance albums. settled for buying the best of lisa gerrard off iTunes instead. haven't listened to any of that stuff in years.

doesn't the story end with them driving into uncertainty, no military showing up, no idea of the scope, etc.? that would have been better.

hey i just watched this last week and i loved the ending. the story/novella was one of the first things i ever read by King, and yeah, the story ends with uncertainty and as someone said upthread, you could have just ended with them driving off into the mist with creatures walking over the land rover and shit but i thought the ending was totally fucking great. i mean, the whole movie is like a Tales From The Dead/Twilight Zone, why not have that same style fuck with the audience ending?

having read the rest of the thread ...

i thought there were a lot really interesting uses of camera angles

the one scene i thought was particularly fantastic was when david and the david gang leave the store and walk along the side of the wall into the mist. the last of them disappears; you sit for a couple of seconds looking at a screen full of mist. then -- woah, fuck -- someone emerges from the mist in the centre of the screen and you realise it's david; so the camera has moved but obviously because there are no fixed reference points you're completely disoriented for a second. really, really liked that.

we also had much cheering and clapping when the marcia gay harden character copped it.

I think Andre Braugher should've walked up to Thomas Jane at the end, clapped him on the back, and said, "You're a real dumbass."

this made me laugh.

i kinda loved how he tried to have it both ways with the ending... so silly

plus this movie was scary as shit

The bit with that Dead Can Dance song playing, and they're driving through the mist, and that huge thing walks over the road in front of them... it was actually quite desolately beautiful.

I do think that final ending was a cheap trick though--even if everything was now fine/sorted by the military or whoever, there's no way it would have happened that FAST.

doesn't the story end with them driving into uncertainty, no military showing up, no idea of the scope, etc.? that would have been better.

My husband mentioned this when he was squirming in his seat at the end of the movie.

THE ARROWHEAD PROJECT

Some movies get better when they sink in. And there are others, like this one, that just shrivel away to shit.

I was pleasantly surprised when I rented this on DVD. Maybe my expectations were just really low (they were) but I was pretty satisfied by this. The end is really doomed!

I liked the superbleak ending. I liked the whole thing, really.

It's a good companion piece to The Ruins. It's not about whether they'll die. It's about watching their impending DOOMs.

Watched it again tonight and it holds up remarkably well. One of the better non-Lovecraft Lovecraft movies.

Bernie Wrightson's monsters are authentically Lovecraftian. The characters are all King, for better or worse.

Ha, didn't know Wrightson was behind the monsters. Makes sense.

I'd love to see a full-length Wrightson animation - his choice of project.

i confused this movie with the Fog - which i would up sitting through last week. it was not very good.

fucking mist wtf

really loved this film! loved the pacing, the way it made you feel as if you were going stir-crazy in the supermarket with them, the disorientating mist scenes, the pharmacy scene was terrifying, the old lady was bad-ass, loved how marcia gay holden totally overacted her character BUT it worked because every so often she'd come out with a spot-on zing/observation - and she NEVER stopped talking, it was a pretty convincing portrayal of how people fall under the spell of something that just wears down at you. the kind of film that sticks with you for various reasons and not just the ending.

from what i remember i enjoyed this. kind of a perfect "zombie" film (except no zombies). i remember watching this about the same time as Land Of The Dead, which was a pretty good film too.

So...not a zombie film

The premise behind the majority of zombie films isn't so much about the zombies - they generally represent an ulterior threat from outside. A vast majority of zombie movies are about how people react and interact with each other when presented with this threat; the message being that human beings are just as dangerous in close quarters and under stress as the living dead. Replace the mist and monsters with zombies and this is a classic example of the genre.

Isn't that horror films rather than zombie films specifically?

Political thriller

The ick of it

The trouble with zombies is you just can't communicate with them.

clear and present danger (stated danger: not a zombie)

the billion dollar brain (uneaten at end of movie)

JFKZ

twelve angry former-men-now-zombies

nope, not a movie either.

Isn't that horror films rather than zombie films specifically?

― lex pretend, Monday, December 9, 2013 1:40 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not really. In Poltergeist the danger is very much the poltergeist IIRC - the conflict between humans isn't hugely pronounced. Everyone works against the forces in the house to rid it of ghosts.

Zombie movies are their own specific genre because zombies are only a surface-level threat. Many many zombie movies involve people eventually barricading themselves into a building and fighting among themselves while the stupid zombies just crowd around outside. The zombies are just a device to stop people being able to escape from each other. Maybe this is why Charlie Brooker decided to set (the rather crap TV series) Dead Meat on the set of Big Brother?

I'd argue that in order to qualify as a zombie movie, you don't really need actual zombies - it just has to fit the tropes: disaster tactics, in-fighting, agoraphobia, micro-politics, apocalypse and emergency etc... Arguably Time of the Wolf or Day of the Triffids could count as zombie fiction. Like all sci-fi it plays on real fears and I think in this case zombies play on a fear of nuclear fallout - of not being able to go outside for fear of infection; seeing loved ones come down with an irreversible sickness; being forced to interact with strangers you'd otherwise have nothing to do with, people you'd generally avoid like the plague if you could.

You would argue that? Srsly now?

He would you know.

Damned if he wouldnt, by gad

my snarkasm detector's going into overdrive here.

Torn btwn two threads- str8 up poll 'do u need zombies for a zombie movie' with one answer option 'y' obv and a more interesting thread where posters are invited to name a movie and we must as a collective justify it as an example of a totally unrelated genre

No hate in the game dl i admire yr bouncing enthusiasm for this type of nonsense, indeed today on ilx would be a write-off thus far without this hypothesis

i get where you're coming from, dl, and agree to an extent - but only to an extent. romero's classic three zombie films fit the pattern you've described, as do many others that have followed in their wake. there are plenty of zombie movies, however, that don't work that way, that focus primarily on the protagonists' struggle against an external threat (often less serious: dead alive, versus, dance of the dead). while group dynamics under stress is an interesting way to frame zombie films, it's probably a mistake to treat animated corpses and death by gnawing as incidental to the genre.

even the original dawn of the dead, the ur-text from which the contemporary genre descends, is at least as concerned with straight up, brain-splattering zombie combat as it is with man's inhumanity to man.

I was thinking recently that the "humans struggling against one another in the midst of an outside threat" thing is a lot of what I like about Romero's Dead films, but it isn't a trope that's endemic to all zombie movies, and it's a trope that's been used in a lot of other kinds of (horror) films. Calling all films of that type "zombie-less zombie films" is akin to calling any movie with a fictional president a "Morgan Freeman-less Morgan Freeman film".

xpost cool, i admit i don't think i've seen many of the ones you mention there contendo, while a lot of the zombie films i have seen (not just the Romeros, but 28 Days Later for an obvious example) do play on this. It's become a big part of what the zombie genre is and in some cases you could take the zombies and the varying levels of splatter and gore right out of the equation and and ultimately it would be the same movie. When I went to see Time of the Wolf, years ago, I remember it being billed as a zombie movie and while I left a bit confounded by that description, I don't think that description was anatomically incorrect.

I thought the revive was about the possibly impending Mist TV show.

...in some cases you could take the zombies and the varying levels of splatter and gore right out of the equation and and ultimately it would be the same movie. When I went to see Time of the Wolf, years ago, I remember it being billed as a zombie movie and while I left a bit confounded by that description, I don't think that description was anatomically incorrect.

time of the wolf is a "zombie movie" in a snarky, thinkaboutit, haneke sense. but if you took the zombies and splatter out of films like dawn of the dead and 28 days later, you'd have to replace them with some sort of civilization-collapsing threat, otherwise they wouldn't make much sense. this is just to say that zombie movies are a subgenre of disaster films as much as of horror. another way to think about it is to say that zombie films are about riots, humanity reduced to a mindless, marauding mass that tears apart the social structures we (nonrioters) rely on to keep each other's worst impulses in check. given the period, zombies = rioters helps make sense of romero's dawn of the dead, especially its opening act and attention to race. could broaden it further to say that zombie movies are about the fear of them, other people, people we don't know and can't trust, the masses, those who "aren't like us".

Day of the Triffids could count as zombie fiction

28 days later is basically day of the triffids with zombies instead of plants. but then the plants are pretty zombie like - stupid, slow, theoretically easy to avoid and eliminate but surprisingly effective in numbers.

oh yeah except everyone's blind, i forgot that bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kya_uqiSQOY

looks sexy

That show is terrible. I hope the mist eats them all.

GO MIST GO

I didn't realize it had started. It seems kinda like a fundamentally-flawed premise for a series. Unless it all unfolds in real time over whatever period of time the characters are trapped in their present location. Otherwise you just have two people stuck in a house together until they decide they need to leave and then whoops.

I've seen the movie but I don't remember reading the original story/book - the show seems like it has more in common with a particularly dark episode of Fantasy Island than the movie.

Please tell me the Mist is wearing a white suit and granting wishes.

Not quite that, yet, but give it a season.