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Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

did you buy any 'cool Firefox gear' at their store?

;_; (blueski), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

This thing prettier than before or what?

Also, I hope this launch goes better than Netscape 2.0 did

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

Seems very slow so far. I'm wondering if I need to re-install or something.

schwantz (schwantz), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

it is certainly LARGE. 50MB or so

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

timed to the release of ie7 (which is nothing special) i suppose?

a.b. (alanbanana), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

Right... why's this only letting me use one tab at a time?

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

Your question is confusing Dom

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

This is very speedy for me so far. I like, I like!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

works fine for me, 15 MB, seems maybe faster?

this extension will force yr old ones to be compatible:
http://users.blueprintit.co.uk/~dave/web/firefox/nightly

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

uh auto image resizing is on and there's no option to turn it off. i'm on a mac.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

*waits for others to help him*

*quits firefox*

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

Firefox 2.0 gets one-click subscription
http://www.bloglines.com/about/news#125

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

It doesn't seem all that different but maybe I'm missing something.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

i've got like 50 extensions on this bitch, is there any super awesome reason why i shouldnt play it safe with this and wait a couple of weeks?

also adding a close button on every tab is retarded! i hope you can switch that off

rtccc (mwah), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

*waits for others to help him*

*quits firefox*

*Install Preferential extension*

*Restart Firefox*

*Go to Tools -> Advanced Preferences*

*Go to browser -> browser.enable_automatic_image_resizing"

*Set boolean value to 'false'*

*Reminds everyone that this solution can be found by a simple web search*

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

also adding a close button on every tab is retarded!

Blame the Firefox user base

-----
"Put close buttons on the tabs. This makes it a lot easier to close tabs with the mouse. People weren't seeing the close box in the usability test. It's also out of the way and not connected with what's actually being closed. Mindful of stealing space from the tab strip when there are many tabs, the close boxes on inactive tabs are hidden when the tab width falls below a certain minimum value."
-----

i hope you can switch that off

No Tab Close Button extension

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

tab close button is a great idea! It's the only part of the rollout spiel that made me want to upgrade sooner rather than later.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

thanks chris!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

But you could already close tabs by scrollwheel-clicking on them. A button is something I can see myself accidentally damn clicking on and annoying myself!

Also, auto-spellcheck? Feck off. I hate programs forever rudely telling me I dont spell in American. Grrrrr.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

tab close is nice and all but it was easy enough to install extensions for that purpose before.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

It certainly does make it easier to close tabs with the mouse! You won't even know you've done it until... oh s*%$! I did it again >:(

But for Gran, I can see the value I suppose (Ctrl + W is an even better idea for closing tabs!). That really shouldn't require an extension to turn off imo, but I guess the future of Firefox is inevitably going to be extensions to remove feature bloat. At least the option is there.

Moderation Request Line (fandango), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

"oh s*%$! I did it again" = why Safari sucks btw.

Moderation Request Line (fandango), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

But you could already close tabs by scrollwheel-clicking on them.

hmm. whadda ya know. Oh yeah I have no scroll wheel at work. So...there? Spellcheck is worthless to me always.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

I think ultimately that Mozilla should give Firefox the features wanted by the majority of its least savvy users and let the savvy users turn off the shit they don't want. It's better than oversimplifying it for the sake of the Comic Book Guys of the universe (self included).

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

Holy shit, that mousewheel thing is great. How did I not know that.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

do not have a scroll wheel click on my laptop touchpad. :(

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 24 October 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

It also works in reverse - if you scrollwheel-click on a link it'll open it in a new tab (instead of the same page or a new page if yr options happen to be elsewise).

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

I think there's a ctrl-something version of both, but that kinda defeats the easy one-click purpose.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

I used to use this (in Opera!) but I'd forgotten about it again until now! Hurts my digits after a while with the mouse really, just like mouse gestures for back/forward I end up relying on it too much.

Ctrl + Click = open in new tab (background)
Ctrl + Shift + Click = open in new tab (focus on)
Ctrl + W = close tab

Moderation Request Line (fandango), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

about the only keyboard shortcuts (other than alt-F4 and ctrl-alt-delete) I can even remember without trying.

Moderation Request Line (fandango), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 23:39 (nineteen years ago)

oh and Ctrl-Tab (rotating thru ur tabs, strokin my keyboard)

Ctrl + Shift + Click = open in new tab (focus on)

Moderation Request Line (fandango), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 23:40 (nineteen years ago)

50MB?! Are you FUCKING KIDDING?!

Portable Dorkness (Dick Butkus), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 00:10 (nineteen years ago)

also adding a close button on every tab is retarded!

I'm totally happy about this. It was the one UI in Safari that I miss in Firefox.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 00:17 (nineteen years ago)

So far everything's working like a charm here. The auto-spell deal is kinda strange but whatever.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 00:31 (nineteen years ago)

Updated versions of my two fave Greasemonkey plug-ins for Myspace here and here. Any other recommendations for heavily trafficked sites? (It automatically updated Adblock, obv.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 00:50 (nineteen years ago)

tab close buttons is THE reason I still use safari.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 00:54 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, so how do I download mp3s from links? Holding down the mouse does not open up a menu for me.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 01:02 (nineteen years ago)

Spell checking. Modern Web sites are increasingly complex with the rollout of new, rich Internet applications, such as word processors, spreadsheets and blogging tools. Inline spell checking in Firefox 2 automatically checks for spelling errors and suggests corrections as users interact with Web sites, bringing a common desktop feature to the Web.

ilx.wh3rd.net/thread.php?msgid=4881575 == http://ilx.thehold.net/thread.php?msgid=160

S- (sgh), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 01:09 (nineteen years ago)

Wahey! Liking it, mostly because of it's improved speed.
Only thing that bugs me is the green '>' button next to the address bar. I want nothing to come between me and my url-pull down menu. But some extenion will fix that in the near future. Right?

Gerard (Gerard), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 01:11 (nineteen years ago)

Oh. I have to press CTRL+mouse to save links. That's dumb.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 01:26 (nineteen years ago)

Do extensions in general slow down the browser?

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 01:36 (nineteen years ago)

It can't spell French worth a damn. *Shrug*

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

for Mac users, what's the advantage of Firefox over Safari? really, I don't see any huge differences. I have no interest in the built in RSS reader, since NetNewsWire is much better. Safari already has tabbed browsing. who cares about skins, Safari looks good enough. is there some great advantage this has that I don't realize?

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 02:12 (nineteen years ago)

I like the extensions.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 02:48 (nineteen years ago)

is there any way (a plugin?) to keep my bookmarks with Firefox auto-synced to Safari?

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 02:57 (nineteen years ago)

it is certainly LARGE. 50MB or so

-- Euai Kapaui (tracerhan...), October 24th, 2006 6:48 PM. (tracerhand)

50MB?! Are you FUCKING KIDDING?!

-- Portable Dorkness (butt.dickas...), October 24th, 2006 9:10 PM. (Dick Butkus)

previous version was 46MB..OMG 4 MORE MB

am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

Only 17 MB when I downloaded it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

drop-down history menu on the 'go back' button = d00o0o0o0pe

am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 03:09 (nineteen years ago)

woah wait i think i spoke too soon. its easy to accidentally click that bitch when trying to click 'back'

am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 03:13 (nineteen years ago)

how is that "dope"? web browsers have had that shit for like 5 years

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

you guys are all so fucking stupid for the most part

roc u like a § (ex machina), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

if you have a touchpad on your lap top, you might be able to get the scroll wheel effect. My one works like a click on the scrollwheel if I tap 2 fingers on the touchpad.

jellybean (jellybean), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 04:18 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus Jon go fucking jack off already dude ur getting aggro!!!

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 06:25 (nineteen years ago)

Jon likes it when people are intarweb n00bs :D

Srsly though, back button histories and click-scroll tab stuff, even I know this shit.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 06:27 (nineteen years ago)

I've been running this since it came out in beta, and I like it, except that the built-in sessionsaver seems pretty buggy - it often only restores one window. Guess I should see if the 'old' sessionsaver still works.

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 06:31 (nineteen years ago)

I'm one of those luddites who think a close button on every tab is a dumb idea, so I probably am actually pretty stupid.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 06:33 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just so worked up about internet browsers! all bothered!

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 06:35 (nineteen years ago)

a little turned on

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 06:35 (nineteen years ago)

Are you non-Windows users getting lots of cool extras or something? Why the difference in size?


Mac: 17 Mb
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0/mac/en-US/

Linux: 9 Mb
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0/linux-i686/en-US/

Win: 5.6 Mb
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0/win32/en-US/

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 07:32 (nineteen years ago)

> also adding a close button on every tab is retarded! i hope you can switch that off

rather than using an extension, there's a value you can set in about:config that'll switch between one close button per tab, one button on the far right, a button on front tab etc.

ah, here:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.tabs.closeButtons

(middle click is better. except on linux version at home middle click on a tab makes it do something that requires web access, which i don't have, so i get an error. most annoying)

new version seems to make my usual customisations the defaults. and adds things i don't particularly need or want. think the new version number is mostly political. will wait a while, i think.

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:04 (nineteen years ago)

Version numbering usually is.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:06 (nineteen years ago)

The minimise to tray add-on isn't working! Waaaaaah!

Johnny B Was Quizzical (Johnney B), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:21 (nineteen years ago)

succumbed

yeah it's ok. less trouble than i imagined, to their credit. i woulda made searchbar autosizer, stop or reload and paste&godefault but np.

there is a small issue no one's raised tho, namely AAAAGH CHRIST THIS IS FUGLY ARE THEY INSANE


... also er, no fasterfox compatibility yet?

rtccc (mwah), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:25 (nineteen years ago)

i mean i know there's this but seriously, how depressing.

rtccc (mwah), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:30 (nineteen years ago)

Can anyone come up with a compelling reason or extension for using Firefox over Safari?

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:33 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get it, my d/l was 5.5 MB. And it IS ugly.

You've Had Your Chances (noodle vague), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:39 (nineteen years ago)

The minimise to tray add-on isn't working! Waaaaaah!

1. download the .xpi file.
2. rename the .xpi file to .zip
3. unzip
4. edit the .rdf file: change maxversion=1.5.0.x to 2.0.x
5. zip again
6. rename the .zip file to .xpi
7. in Firefox: file - open - install
8. profit

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:45 (nineteen years ago)

(follow the same procedure for Fasterfox, by the way, it's working fine)

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:46 (nineteen years ago)

a session restore system that automatically restores previously-open windows and tabs when a new browsing session is started.

I can see this getting people into a whole heap of trouble.

ONIMO has fallen into changing screen name HELL (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:49 (nineteen years ago)

Are you non-Windows users getting lots of cool extras or something? Why the difference in size?

I imagine the Mac download would contain universal binaries (both ppc and x86 (intel) versions), so that'd account for it being much larger. As for the Linux one being bigger, who knows? Maybe elf data structures are less efficient (or, more plausably, more featureful)?

Can anyone come up with a compelling reason or extension for using Firefox over Safari?

Extensions? Tabbing through forms works? (nb I still use Safari, but I don't use my mac for web surfing that much)

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:55 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand how the hell they can justify this as a full leap from 1.5 to 2.0. Definitely not enough features for that to make sense. (just incorporating a bunch of extensions as new features is pretty lame anyway)

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:56 (nineteen years ago)

Stan, you're a legend, cheers.

Johnny B Was Quizzical (Johnney B), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:56 (nineteen years ago)

> did you buy any 'cool Firefox gear' at their store?

did see someone wearing a black firefox t-shirt just a couple of weeks ago. looked nice. like the greyscale version as well. bit geeky though.

http://intlstore.mozilla.org/index.php?cPath=2

(linux format, until recently, were giving t-shirts away to subscribers featuring the face of RMS done in the style of che. funny)

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 09:05 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand how the hell they can justify this as a full leap from 1.5 to 2.0

can't really comment about what's under the bonnet but certainly 2.0 is catchier than 1.8 just when ie7's out with new & possibly confused costumers coming into play. perhaps wiser to lay off preaching to the choir when said choir are quite happy to nerd themselves out of a problem eventually anyway - if the build is stabler than i guess that's all that counts. really is a pointless shame how ugly it is though.

rtccc (mwah), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

a session restore system that automatically restores previously-open windows and tabs when a new browsing session is started.

My favoured browser, Galeon, includes this.

As for the Linux one being bigger, who knows? Maybe elf data structures are less efficient (or, more plausably, more featureful)?

Doesn't the x86 architecture have stricter alignment rules? That pushes size up a bit.

I saw someone touring Lincoln Castle in a Firefox tshirt, a few months ago.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 09:10 (nineteen years ago)

Can anyone come up with a compelling reason or extension for using Firefox over Safari?
Two-finger scrolling isn't smooth on Macbooks, but it is in Safari. On the cheap screen, that makes the text blur/colour ghost.

There's a bad bug in the Mac version of this too: if you run a flash video like YouTube, then open a new window -- suddenly you can't type.

stet (stet), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm loving the in-line spell check. The extension kept dying in previous versions, so this is perfect.

Johnny B Was Quizzical (Johnney B), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:08 (nineteen years ago)

Can anyone come up with a compelling reason or extension for using Firefox over Safari?

Type-ahead-find or find as you type or whatever they call it these days is my single compelling reason for using Firefox over any other browser ever. It's the ipod scrollwheel of browser usability for me.

ledge (ledge), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:11 (nineteen years ago)

If the web developer extensions and a great code editor were involved, it would make sense. But, it doesn't look like that's the case.

Portable Dorkness (Dick Butkus), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

I do like that from using firefox on windows, it's apparently coming in Leopard Safari. I like the multiple search engines functionality as well but still have yet to make the leap from Safari.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:33 (nineteen years ago)

Leopard Safari

?!?! What is it with all this WWF-style browser branding? I'm just waiting on "IE7: The Duck-Billed Platypus".

ledge (ledge), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:37 (nineteen years ago)

Inquisitor ( http://inquisitorx.com/safari/ ) is another good reason to use safari.

stet (stet), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

Can anyone come up with a compelling reason or extension for using Firefox over Safari?

google browser sync / toolbar
adblock
book burro

roc u like a § (ex machina), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:53 (nineteen years ago)

for me...safari vs. firefox...

I like safari a lot more, and having a .mac account means my safari bookmarks are accessible from any computer, BUT more and more I'm noticing websites that don't work with/don't like safari, so I have to switch to firefox to get them to be nice. Wordpress and Sendspace are two, for instance. I am glad Firefox added little close tab buttons though, for real.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

You know in MS Word how you can right click on a word and the option 'synonyms' comes up with a list of similar words, is there anything like this in the new Firefox or a plugin that can do some sort of basic thesaurus function?

Affectian (Affectian), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

you safari people need to get with this, if you haven't already - http://hetima.com/safari/stand-e.html

and for all your other needs (i.e. Ed, your multiple search engines, feature-rich view source, etc.) - http://pimpmysafari.com/

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

how is that "dope"? web browsers have had that shit for like 5 years

-- like murderinging (mi...), October 25th, 2006 12:20 AM. (modestmickey)

afaik it was there if you held down the back button but the addition of the tiny down arrow allows a one-click? its not much really and i already rescinded the "dope" comment

am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

how comes when i wanna download something i don't get the option to automatically 'open with' now? like say rars and zips etc.

do people like the sideways scrolling tab bar btw? i could get used to it but i'm missing scrolling thru tabs with the mousewheel already.

rtccc (mwah), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like Safari because its aesthetic is too thin/flimsy. Firefox looks more solid to me.

Although I do think it's dumb that I have to press "control" now every time I want to save a link.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks, Hand.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

Wildcarding in AdBlock is the single most compelling reason to use any browser, for me.
Plus the amount of shit I can do to FireFox by going to about:config.
And the Web Developer extension.
And the ShowIP extension.
And the PimpZilla theme for the house.
And the Outlook Blue 2003 theme for the office.

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

What you really need for Safari: http://www.pozytron.com/?acidsearch

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

Agreed, I just installed it and it has made my day.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Wildcarding in AdBlock is the single most compelling reason to use any browser, for me

Yes yes and yes again.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

GUYS THIS THREAD IS ABOUT FIREFOX 2.0 NOT YOUR GAY JUNGLE ESCAPADES

/jon

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

browser.urlbar.hideGoButton true

Paul Eater (eater), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

i'm strangely unexcited by this. i think i'll do my usual trick of sitting here with the previous version for ages, then upgrading just as everyone else moves to something even newer and more shiny.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks Paul!

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

My fave Firefox theme is "GrApple (UNO)" from http://www.takebacktheweb.org/

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

my only complaint is that suddenly my context menu is out of hand, yet for some reason it's missing "search web for [text you've highlighted]"

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

how odd, mine's right there

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

well hmm

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

looks like it only shows a context menu entry for whatever's active in the wee search bar. so i added a google search to my dictionary search extension.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

Feels slower. Damn.

the Adversary (but, still, a friend of yours) (Uri Frendimein), Thursday, 26 October 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

throttle.trolls true

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Thursday, 26 October 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

haha, obey!

the Adversary (but, still, a friend of yours) (Uri Frendimein), Thursday, 26 October 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

I'm liking NO close buttons best!

ennui (fandango), Thursday, 26 October 2006 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, who uses the mouse to close windows. Freaks.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 26 October 2006 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, I didn't say everyone should do it! Only that I wasn't aware of it being an option in about:config previous to 2.0?

I'd actually prefer to get rid of that drop-down button on the right hand side (i.e. where the close button used to be) and return to how things were but I can't be bothered right now.

ennui (fandango), Thursday, 26 October 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

Putting the close button back on far right now, is too near that menu for my liking. CLutter.

ennui (fandango), Thursday, 26 October 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

No i was serious though! i don't use Firefox anyway, don't listen to me.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 26 October 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

who uses the mouse to close windows. Freaks. ex-Opera users ;-)

ennui (fandango), Thursday, 26 October 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

*doesn't use. gah

ennui (fandango), Thursday, 26 October 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway. As recommended via Idolator today, DownThemAll. Extremely handy.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 October 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

The hell?

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 26 October 2006 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

A demonstration of its worth. I have used it a few times now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 October 2006 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

With the web-developer extensions toolbar, a little clutter caused by a button or two is really not an issue. I love the web-developer extensions, but I am always always always clicking on it by accident. The shit's a mess. Almost looks like Word up there now. But, unlike Word, I love it. Web-developer extensions rule.

Portable Dorkness (Dick Butkus), Thursday, 26 October 2006 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah DownThemAll's the one extension I couldn't do without.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 26 October 2006 23:35 (nineteen years ago)

"Select the files you want to download--and note that DownThemAll really means it with the "all" part of its name, so you may have to scroll through to find MP3 files on pages that are particularly image/ad-heavy"

or, you can just use the file extension filter, pictured not more than an inch above!

these people are fucking retards.

ennui (fandango), Thursday, 26 October 2006 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

Idolator's Instantly Outdated Guide To How To Throw Blog Posts Together In Twenty Seconds

ennui (fandango), Thursday, 26 October 2006 23:48 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, the filter is what I went straight for.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 October 2006 23:49 (nineteen years ago)

why the love for anything other than IE i don't know. Firefox can't even view archived blog pages, its shit. IE does everything.

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

Does someone else do your operating system reinstalls then?

If by "everything" you mean crashing at will, not displaying shit correctly, opening my PC up to endless viruses and being as slow as an arthritic tortoise then yeah it's GRATE.

new new wave of new wave new rave (fandango), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

"Firefox can't even view archived blog pages"

examples?

new new wave of new wave new rave (fandango), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Does someone else do your operating system reinstalls then?

??

xp, any of my archived pages on my blog site. It just shows the source code on my firefox browser, but IE views them quite happily.

please help, as i would like to continue using Firefox and i don't want to revert back to IE just to view my website. Yes my initial post was a stroppy bif.

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

I love that this is a link to the Firefox site:

http://www.ie7.com/

MS vs Mozilla FITE

Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

It's not love that made me find an alternative (Opera for many years) as IE simply being completely inferior-to-unusable at basically everything. If it works for you, you're just lucky!

(on preview) hmmm, there's something up with your code... maybe you just need to save the archives with a .html extension??

http://www.mullsports.com/archives/2005_06_01_

new new wave of new wave new rave (fandango), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, Firefox doesn't seen an extension so it doesn't know that to do with those pages.

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

There's some combination of actions involving going backward then forward in History with multiple tabs open that apparently crashes 2.0. Not quite sure what I've done when it happens, but it's happened about five or six times now.

M. V. (M.V.), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

hurrah i fixed blogger to rename my archive files with extensions.

ta

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

http://nickstallman.net/internet-explorer-isnt-a-web-browser/

^ some interesting notes about "standards"

roc u like a § (ex machina), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

When my husband asked if there was an adblock update, I understood this as adblog. Would be sorta cool that there was one... I mean, blogblock.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

DownThemAll is my favorite extension. Although AdblockPlus with the automatic Filterset G updater is a close second.

J (Jay), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

"Select the files you want to download--and note that DownThemAll really means it with the "all" part of its name, so you may have to scroll through to find MP3 files on pages that are particularly image/ad-heavy"

or, you can just use the file extension filter, pictured not more than an inch above!

these people are fucking retards.

-- ennui (...) (webmail), October 26th, 2006. (fandango)

for a page that loves to make constant reference to how EDGY they are by challenging copyright law and just daring someone to challenge them, yeah, they sure do suck at warez. they're like a group of kids figuring out how to transfer files over IRC for the first time.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

/ctcp mickey xdcc list

roc u like a § (ex machina), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

AdblockPlus with the automatic Filterset.G updater
Open-source names really suck.

stet (stet), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

they're like a group of kids figuring out how to transfer files over IRC for the first time.

haha mickey totally otm, those guys would get completely eaten alive in internet relay chat rooms. what a bunch of losers!!

^@^ (map), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.msfirefox.com/

(the whole site is brilliant)

StanM (StanM), Monday, 6 November 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

What, a 404? why can't I see anything?

Hi There! Dear Johnney B (stigoftdump), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

:-(

It was just there, I swear!

StanM (StanM), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

The google cache is very limited:

http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:Y-cCsbiuFpgJ:www.msfirefox.com/+msfirefox.com

StanM (StanM), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Firebug is my favorite extension. Very handy if you deal with javascript at all.

lyra (lyra), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

um, firefox just threw a wobbly because of that wi-fi applet so i had to kill it. it then decided to update to the new 1.5 version having downloaded itself earlier. only there wasn't enough disk space on C: so it failed. am now running 2.0 with shiny new theme. it feels like the future.

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Will Firefox 2.0 work with Hotmail links, that's what I want to know.

Although the only site I really have problems with is Ebay, it's still a pain in the arse to have to cut and paste into a new tab instead of clicking on the link. I assume that's probably more likely Microsoft deliberately writing the Hotmail page to not work properly in Firefox rather than any problems with Firefox itself though.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

um, don't like the way tabs start scrolling off the screen if you open too many, i'd rather they just got smaller (that way the leftmost, worksafe tab is always there on the left)

firefox in not supported proprietary microsoft protocols shocker.

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

disable (or modify) tab scrolling in firefox 2

mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 9 November 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

cheers mookie. i had a look at about:config yesterday and changed some obvious looking values and it seems ok (have had it up to about 20 with no scrolling). now if only i can find a way to get netbeans to do the same... 8)

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Friday, 10 November 2006 09:51 (nineteen years ago)

Andy or anyone - can you tell me how to change my Firefox theme? I went to the Firefox themes site, "installed" themes, and nothing, no change. What am I missing?

=== temporary username === (Mark C), Friday, 10 November 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

Tools - Add-Ons - Themes - select the one you want to use

StanM (StanM), Friday, 10 November 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

then restart. (it won't pick up changes until you restart)

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Friday, 10 November 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks guys, that worked!

=== temporary username === (Mark C), Friday, 10 November 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

um, http://www.falloutsoftware.com/tutorials/gl/gl8.htm is 16 pages long. firefox will only print the first 5, section 1 (print preview also only shows 5) html looks ok.

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Friday, 10 November 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

Firefox 3 today, and a world record attempt:

http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2008/06/17/firefox-3-available-today-at-1700-utc-10am-pdt/

(18:00 in London)

koogs, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 15:38 (seventeen years ago)

Rah!

StanM, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 15:50 (seventeen years ago)

lol website not working

DG, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 17:04 (seventeen years ago)

we've got 24 hours

StanM, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 17:12 (seventeen years ago)

Hmmm.

First weird thing I'll need to get over is the menu bar. Instead of just the URL's I've gone to recently, it gives me the page names too.

And I guess clicking a little star is easier than pressing CTRL + D. Still looking it over.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 19:14 (seventeen years ago)

I know everyone loves Firefox but it fucked me over and I'm back using Internet Explorer so I'm not too happy. Well my only real damage is that I can't get tabs as easily!

VeronaInTheClub, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 19:18 (seventeen years ago)

and the russian mafia have yr credit card details

DG, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 19:19 (seventeen years ago)

American English OS X version downloads from Korea.

M.V., Tuesday, 17 June 2008 19:35 (seventeen years ago)

I'm still getting nothing from the website.

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 19:50 (seventeen years ago)

Firefox 3 for OS X looks tremendously better than 2. If you don't use any cool cocoa tricks on it, it's almost indistinguishable from a cocoa app.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 19:53 (seventeen years ago)

I've been on FFX 3 since alpha, and it's improved tremendously since even then.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 19:53 (seventeen years ago)

I'm still getting nothing from the website.

-- Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:50 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

downloading 3 now!

jhøshea, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 19:54 (seventeen years ago)

Yer bastid, that's mine!

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 19:56 (seventeen years ago)

What site are you using?

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 19:57 (seventeen years ago)

Top is FFX 3, bottom Safari 3.1.1:

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5484/buttonszq0.png

libcrypt, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 19:58 (seventeen years ago)

yah shit looks differnt now

jhøshea, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 19:59 (seventeen years ago)

The halo around the buttons isn't right and the sizes are a bit off, but otherwise it's very good.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 19:59 (seventeen years ago)

it's almost indistinguishable from a cocoa app.
The gradient on the toolbar is totally fucked

stet, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 19:59 (seventeen years ago)

noticeably faster so far

jhøshea, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 19:59 (seventeen years ago)

toolbar etc looks kinda poopy

jhøshea, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:00 (seventeen years ago)

What site are you using?

-- Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:57 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

firefox.com

jhøshea, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:01 (seventeen years ago)

they must've thought everybody likes poopy :-(

(xpost)

StanM, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:02 (seventeen years ago)

I got it from http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/ (which sometimes shows Firefox 2 and when I reload it sometimes shows Firefox 3)

Vv happy with the previous release candidates, and since 3.0 is RC3 renamed I don't expect that to change

StanM, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:04 (seventeen years ago)

text looks crazily different - new aliasing action or something - pretty nice not bad

jhøshea, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:07 (seventeen years ago)

also: http://www.filehippo.com/download_firefox/

mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:12 (seventeen years ago)

That's a big "back" button.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:13 (seventeen years ago)

and why are stop and reload different buttons now?

jhøshea, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:14 (seventeen years ago)

Thanks mookieproof. Got it now.

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:24 (seventeen years ago)

holy shit this looks WAY different!

s1ocki, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:26 (seventeen years ago)

3.0 is RC3 renamed

Hmm, just installed this, and it claims it's still RC3?

JimD, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:28 (seventeen years ago)

not so good with loading twenty tabs...

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:29 (seventeen years ago)

really small text seems a bit overaliased.

s1ocki, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:31 (seventeen years ago)

When I upgraded to the first 3.0 RC before, the Return key no longer carried out the Submit function on certain (java-based?) text boxes. I reverted my previous beta build and it was fine again. Can't really be bothered to try out the final release, as Beta 5 is stable enough for me.

Alba, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:31 (seventeen years ago)

The pulldown URL history bar is pretty shitty now. Big text, a limited number of entries. Any way to fix that?

jeff, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:39 (seventeen years ago)

That's a big "back" button.

Baby got back buttons.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:41 (seventeen years ago)

I hardly ever use the pulldown history bar now because if you just start typing the title (or url) into the address bar, it matches stuff that way.

Alba, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:43 (seventeen years ago)

Mookieproof's link doesn't count towards the world record. Just wait until you can download it from Mozilla's sites if you want to help them out with that attempt.

StanM, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:46 (seventeen years ago)

The pulldown URL history bar is pretty shitty now. Big text, a limited number of entries. Any way to fix that?

-- jeff, Tuesday, June 17, 2008 4:39 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

I know how, but then I remembered you're a fucking ponce.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:50 (seventeen years ago)

scramblehurt

HI DERE, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:59 (seventeen years ago)

ponce??

s1ocki, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 21:00 (seventeen years ago)

The pulldown URL history bar is pretty shitty now. Big text, a limited number of entries. Any way to fix that?

-- jeff, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:39 (39 minutes ago) Link

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6227

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 21:23 (seventeen years ago)

OK so Ive had this since a beta from a week or 2 ago, and it's done somethin' funky to my character sets, I've jumped from 1.5 to this (lol old) but at least in that, japanese/cyryllic etc would display.

Now I just get these weirdass boxes. Like this (sorry to use you as an exmple Jon)

http://www.memorygongs.com/mozchar.jpg

And it keeps defaulting back to unicode no matter what I select otherwise (western etc) AND I have auto-detect Japanese on. WTF?

Trayce, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 21:36 (seventeen years ago)

I see Jon's username Japanese characters fine...?

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 21:37 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah thats the thing I'm not, and I used to I'm using XP SP2. I wonder if its because I've gone from 1.5 and not from 2 when I upgraded.

Trayce, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 21:41 (seventeen years ago)

There's a full stop missing after "used to", sorry.

Trayce, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 21:41 (seventeen years ago)

thanks Pleasant Plains

you are a kind person with a full head of hair

jeff, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 21:56 (seventeen years ago)

Now, now. No need to get poncey.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 22:02 (seventeen years ago)

about:robots

koogs, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 22:21 (seventeen years ago)

Trayce, even though the chars are Japanese, it's still UTF-8 on ILX.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 22:25 (seventeen years ago)

Those numbers in the boxes are the correct Unicode numbers for the chars in Jon's username. This means that the encoding has been detected correctly by Firefox, but for some reason, it doesn't think it has an available font to render those characters. After you've done the usual stuff like emptying cache, restarting, etc., you might try installing a(nother) font that contains characters at those code points.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 22:37 (seventeen years ago)

lol get a mac

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 22:47 (seventeen years ago)

And it's chinese fwiw

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 22:47 (seventeen years ago)

Point being that the reverse-reading direction chars were removed.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 22:59 (seventeen years ago)

WOW. YOU WERE ALL RIGHT ABOUT FIREFOX ITS AMAZING. Everything just *pops* I love it. I LOVE it. I think the air is clearer...
http://www.tornlightgallery.com/images/photo-galleries/portraits/high-res/Gasp.jpg
Obviously I'm sure the honeymoon will not last but GEEEEE

VeronaInTheClub, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 01:38 (seventeen years ago)

guys all i have to do is type "77" or "40" or "60" in the address bar and i go there :D

gbx, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 03:47 (seventeen years ago)

crazy!!!

s1ocki, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 05:03 (seventeen years ago)

that is kind of awesome that it knows that

s1ocki, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 05:03 (seventeen years ago)

Looks pretty great!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 06:28 (seventeen years ago)

[This means that the encoding has been detected correctly by Firefox, but for some reason, it doesn't think it has an available font to render those characters. After you've done the usual stuff like emptying cache, restarting, etc., you might try installing a(nother) font that contains characters at those code points.

Thanks lib that makes a lot of sense, I'll have a poke around. Obv I've restarted but I may try a cache flush and then look into my fonts.

Trayce, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 06:34 (seventeen years ago)

Four and a half million copies downloaded and counting, fast!

Live counter here: http://downloadcounter.sj.mozilla.com

StanM, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 06:38 (seventeen years ago)

What do they need to get the world record?

krakow, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 06:51 (seventeen years ago)

RTFM! The answer to my question is in their FAQ:

Do we have to reach a specific number of downloads in order to set the record?

This is the first record attempt of its kind so there is no set number. We'd really like to outdo the number of Firefox 2 downloads on its launch day, which was 1.6 million. Let's shoot for 5 million--the sky is the limit!

krakow, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 06:53 (seventeen years ago)

Good question. Anything above their previous version, I'd imagine. There's no actual number they have to break, I believe.

StanM, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 06:59 (seventeen years ago)

(Hey, no xpost warning, ILX System?)

StanM, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 07:00 (seventeen years ago)

This is such a stupid world record attempt.

Alba, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 07:01 (seventeen years ago)

It kind of is, in the sense theyve said "please dont download multiple copies" as if they're gonna be able to police such a thing, so the numbers'll be pretty skewed anwyay. Clever marketing is what it is tho.

Trayce, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 07:03 (seventeen years ago)

I've been on beta 5 (Gnome) for a couple of months and it's glorious. Cache flushing is a bit excessive but I believe they're fixing that, if they haven't already.

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 07:20 (seventeen years ago)

Of course that record thing is stupid, but it's also amazing. (Cue xkcd cartoon about being all enthusiastic about a program that displays web pages) (can't link it at the mo, am browsing on phone without clipboard)

StanM, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 07:31 (seventeen years ago)

I've been on beta 5 (Gnome) for a couple of months and it's glorious.

This. Also on Mac.

Cache flushing is a bit excessive but I believe they're fixing that

nah fuck it. No half steppin. Flush that summbitch.

kenan, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 07:34 (seventeen years ago)

apart from the multiple downloads from single people you have to consider all the people who downloaded directly from the ftp site rather than via getfirefox.com

am having the same font problem as trayce but given that we still have the same fonts on our systems as before it means they've changed something.

it also told me firebug was incompatible but a new version was available when i updated manually.

5000 a minute!

koogs, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 08:24 (seventeen years ago)

Haha, check out the 10.1-style tabs in the preferences!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/adnaus23/loltabs.png

naus, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 09:02 (seventeen years ago)

It's already been as high as 11,000 a minute when the Mericans were awake. Xpost

StanM, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 09:14 (seventeen years ago)

Well I cleared my cache and I still have no foreign character sets working right, so I dunno wtf. My fonts havent changed! Weird.

Trayce, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 09:14 (seventeen years ago)

ah boo it crashed already. prob not its fault, prob my shitty system. still, was hoping this version would be immune.

ledge, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 09:18 (seventeen years ago)

Eyyy I fixed my problem! bf suggested I need to install the asian/cyrillic etc character sets in regional and language settings in control panel, duhhh obvious. I realise now this pc has NEVER displayed chinese/japanese etc properly so it wasntg FFs fault to start with. Silly me.

Trayce, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 09:28 (seventeen years ago)

This looks much much better (=more like Safari...) in OSX then 2.0 did.

willem, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 09:42 (seventeen years ago)

Oh one thing I have to say is a massive improvement over what I had before (which was 1.5 in all fairness, never tried 2) is the memory management, which is the main reason Ive upgraded. The ridic memory leak (leave it running for a few hours and it is using 400nb of RAM, wtf?) seems to have been well and truly fixed, on initial use. Its faster at rendering too.

Trayce, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 09:58 (seventeen years ago)

Only one problem so far which I don't understand. Yesterday on FF2 I was able to watch ITV catch-up (it uses something called Microsoft Silverlight) to-day on FF3 it just doesn't want to know. Works fine on IE.
Good news though, The Sun website now fully viewable on FF. Bring the noise.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 12:08 (seventeen years ago)

have you tried reinstalling silverlight?

a while ago, Alba pointed out this really nice "skin" for ff3 called grApple, which i've been using for months without even remembering it's there -

http://www.takebacktheweb.org

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 12:15 (seventeen years ago)

Loadsadownloads! And still four hours to go!

StanM, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:02 (seventeen years ago)

xp. Yep. Even went to the microsoft site and did it. ff just doesn't seem to want to play. No biggie, I've only used 'catch-up' once before now, just mystifying.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:50 (seventeen years ago)

FF3 seems rather smoother and faster than FF2 - apart from the slide-out "do you want to remember this password?" bar.

Plus, the Book Of Mozilla has a new verse!

(yes, I know it was in the betas)

Forest Pines Mk2, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:02 (seventeen years ago)

the slide-out "do you want to remember this password?" bar

yes, this is really annoying, although it doesn't stop the next page from loading like it did before.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:06 (seventeen years ago)

i have a problem for the people who think theyre so smart on this thread to solve: when i drag a photo out of ff3 onto my desktop it ends up on the right of my desktop snapped to grid instead of in a the spot where i dragged it to.

this is annoying for me as ive got an internet photo collecting habit.

im on osx 10.5

jhøshea, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:07 (seventeen years ago)

i believe that's an option in your desktop "view" options, to either keep arranged, in a grid, or not

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:17 (seventeen years ago)

i.e. click on the desktop, go to "view" menu (i think) and it's in there somewhere

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

no it just when i drag from firefox 3 - thx tho

jhøshea, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:21 (seventeen years ago)

bizarre - i wouldn't think an application would be able to control that

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:23 (seventeen years ago)

i wouldn't know because, he said smugly, i have my desktop set to automatically send everything into the downloads folder

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:26 (seventeen years ago)

yah downloads folder whaaaeva

jhøshea, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:29 (seventeen years ago)

Tracer is post-desktop.

kenan, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:43 (seventeen years ago)

Ah, crap, this Firefox 3 killed my Ad Block shit. Is there a version that works with this new firefox?

burt_stanton, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:07 (seventeen years ago)

adblock plus

mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:19 (seventeen years ago)

So any idea why, on my Mac, new FF3 windows appear full-screen even if the window that launched them wasn't full screen? This happens even after I quit with a window non-full-screen, thinking it remembers your last window or something. FF2 never did this.

joygoat, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:54 (seventeen years ago)

tasty

burt_stanton, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:55 (seventeen years ago)

Only thing really annoying is I have to re-login in nearly every website that requires a login. I mean, hello FF 3 coolheit, just look in the list of passwords you saved for me!

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 17:08 (seventeen years ago)

bitches need to update their extensions

(yeah i know how to do it manually, but it's a pain and doesn't work on everything)

mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 17:12 (seventeen years ago)

http://downloadcounter.sj.mozilla.com/ :

One hour to go, current total: 7,880,262

(Please download Firefox 3 by 11:16 a.m. PDT (18:16 UTC) on June 18, 2008. That's 11:16 a.m. in Mountain View, 2:16 p.m. in Toronto, 3:16 p.m. in Rio de Janeiro, 8:16 p.m. in Paris, Madrid, Berlin, Rome and Warsaw, 10:16 p.m. in Moscow, and June 19, 2008 at 2:16 a.m. in Beijing and 3:16 a.m. in Tokyo.)

StanM, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 17:17 (seventeen years ago)

I realize that this doesn't look like a canned cocoa app w/shading and all and it's a bit goofy to imitate Safari, but I like the theme and although it's not perfect, this is by far the best FFX user experience yet:

http://i26.tinypic.com/23msym8.jpg

libcrypt, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:02 (seventeen years ago)

Mine doesn't look like that! ^^^ How do I get that? PLEASE SPEAK SLOWLY I don't speak internet very well.

VeronaInTheClub, Thursday, 19 June 2008 00:20 (seventeen years ago)

go to preferences at the top of this page and click "I Want to Change the Way ILX Looks" - i belive that style is called keith css or something.

jed_, Thursday, 19 June 2008 00:38 (seventeen years ago)

that is, if you meant the way the ILX page itself looks rather than the way firefox looks.

jed_, Thursday, 19 June 2008 00:40 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah that Firefox look is MacOS, it wont look like that in Windows (tho I imagine you could make it do with a skin?)

Trayce, Thursday, 19 June 2008 00:56 (seventeen years ago)

The best (and probably most-whinged-about) part of FF3 is that it integrates properly with the OS/window manager you're using. Overall it's better for this.

The web-page-title-in-url-dropdown thing is also better, once you get used to it. For work if I want Outlook Web Access I just type owa in the box and it finds it.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 19 June 2008 03:33 (seventeen years ago)

I find it a bit odd, and I am also not fond of the fact it seems to include my toolbar bookmarks in the history dropdown, or some set of my bookmarks, which seems a bit pointless. History + bookmarks = different things yo.

Trayce, Thursday, 19 June 2008 04:45 (seventeen years ago)

Mind you in the end, its all what one gets used to, no matter what that is.

Trayce, Thursday, 19 June 2008 04:45 (seventeen years ago)

I hope that's true, because at the moment I'm not enjoying the new history dropdown behavior.

krakow, Thursday, 19 June 2008 06:47 (seventeen years ago)

As predicted, I'm getting used to the so-called Awesome Bar (which apparently is the pet name for what they at Mozilla also call the new Firefox 3 Smart Location Bar) and think it could well be A Good Thing.

However, I'm having Java problems, particularly with Zenfolio. There are a few threads on the Zenfolio forums about the issues, but I haven't had a chance to read them in detail yet.

krakow, Friday, 20 June 2008 07:03 (seventeen years ago)

http://secunia.com/advisories/30761/

El Tomboto, Friday, 20 June 2008 07:06 (seventeen years ago)

Pretty suspicious timing there, anonymous discoverer dude.

http://dvlabs.tippingpoint.com/blog/2008/06/18/vulnerability-in-mozilla-firefox-30

StanM, Friday, 20 June 2008 07:07 (seventeen years ago)

yeah I lol'd

El Tomboto, Friday, 20 June 2008 07:12 (seventeen years ago)

security jackholes always bitch about that shit
some f'real aspies in this biz u kno

El Tomboto, Friday, 20 June 2008 07:13 (seventeen years ago)

sounds like a biz that needs and rewards real aspies.

kenan, Friday, 20 June 2008 08:03 (seventeen years ago)

3.0 lost a load of my bookmarks in the transfer, is slower than 2 and keeps loading Facebook incorrectly.

I'm really thinking of using fucking IE again. Ugh.

Raw Patrick, Friday, 20 June 2008 08:27 (seventeen years ago)

IE7 ain't half bad, honestly.

kenan, Friday, 20 June 2008 08:46 (seventeen years ago)

I friggen have to log into every website, everytime I restart FF! Sites like last.fm, or ILX, of which it obviously knows my login and password. In FF2.x, when restarting FF, I would just be logged in already (except webmail/gmail, but that's normal).
Anyone else have this?

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 20 June 2008 09:00 (seventeen years ago)

The safest way to upgrade to a new major version = create a new profile.

* export the bookmarks from your current profile
* install password exporter plugin and export your passwords/logins

install new major version & let it mess up your profile (possibly, never had it happen myself)

* create a whole new profile: start -> run -> (path)\firefox.exe -profilemanager
* import the bookmarks you exported up there
* install password exporter plugin and import your passwords/logins
* install flash player, install other addons you might want
* profit

OK, maybe not that last one, but anyway. Clean profile solves a LOT of problems.

StanM, Friday, 20 June 2008 09:01 (seventeen years ago)

I friggen have to log into every website, everytime I restart FF!

check your cookies & security setup. Sounds like it deletes all your cookies when you close firefox (tools-options-privacy) It doesn't remember your passwords either, check tools-options-security for that problem.

(or just create a new profile and see if it still happens)

StanM, Friday, 20 June 2008 09:04 (seventeen years ago)

look at "private data" right under that cookies thing as well - "always clear my private data when I close firefox" -> settings -> don't select cookies & saved passwords

StanM, Friday, 20 June 2008 09:08 (seventeen years ago)

Well, the new FF did take over my pw-list, so it doesn't 'forget' those. But it could very well be the cookies, will check that out when at home. Dank je!

Oh, for all you Tor-users: Tor leaks your timezone and live feeds in FF3. They're trying to find a workaround, but haven't found it yet.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 20 June 2008 09:11 (seventeen years ago)

Ooh, FF3 has colour management. Except it isn't enabled by default, you need to install some kind of add on. Which appears to be available only to people who've registered with Mozilla. Hmmm. I'll stick with the murky world of sRGB for now then.

Still, quite nice, though I'm more excited by PicLens, which isn't exclusive to FF, but which I discovered the same day as the FF upgrade.

Michael Jones, Friday, 20 June 2008 10:40 (seventeen years ago)

FF3 definitely crashes faster.

Kerm, Friday, 20 June 2008 10:58 (seventeen years ago)

How do you make it crash then? Haven't managed to since beta 2 or so.

StanM, Friday, 20 June 2008 11:06 (seventeen years ago)

Googled from toolbar with maybe 4 tabs open... dunno, it just went away. Could be an add-on. But yeah it has crashed twice.

Reading about the new version has really highlighted the diversity of browsing habits. Saw someone bragging about how little RAM FF3 used when he had 20 tabs open - uh???

Kerm, Friday, 20 June 2008 11:12 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, PicLens is great!

Saw someone bragging about how little RAM FF3 used when he had 20 tabs open - uh???

Erhm, not to be bragging, but it really does use less ram when 15+ tabs open. I somehow am incapable of closing most of them, I want them open all the time.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 20 June 2008 11:16 (seventeen years ago)

I am also incapable of closing tabs, and can easily end up with that many open.

I've had FF3 crash once so far, on www.theregister.co.uk. However, my FF2 installation used to crash all the time on that site; I suspect it's actually a problem with my Flash installation.

Forest Pines Mk2, Friday, 20 June 2008 12:39 (seventeen years ago)

I am also incapable of closing tabs

crtl-w

;)

kenan, Friday, 20 June 2008 12:41 (seventeen years ago)

alternate colour management option

mookieproof, Friday, 20 June 2008 13:19 (seventeen years ago)

played around a bit with opera 9.5 the other day and their "awesomebar" remembers visited page content, so like typing lol brings up all pages you read where lolz occurred. it's fantastic! (wouldve thought caching all that would be a strain too big but it hasn't been, at all.)

ff3 is ok and more stable and stuff but it's retarded that i still have to tinker with extensions just to do basic common sense shit like 'paste and go' or get tabs to open up next to the active one. greasemonkey is the only thing keeping me on here tbh.

r|t|c, Friday, 20 June 2008 13:27 (seventeen years ago)

r|t|c, could you point me to the extension that places a new tab next to the active tab? I'd like that as well!

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 20 June 2008 13:34 (seventeen years ago)

Thanks, mookieproof!

Unfortunately, PicLens is crashing FF3 like mad. It's fine in IE6, however.

Michael Jones, Friday, 20 June 2008 13:38 (seventeen years ago)

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1956

i think it is also an option in tab mix plus but i havent any need for any of the other stuff that ext peddles.

r|t|c, Friday, 20 June 2008 13:40 (seventeen years ago)

tab mix plus (dev build for 3.0)

mookieproof, Friday, 20 June 2008 13:41 (seventeen years ago)

so when I go to check for updates from 2.0, it says no updates can be found....do you have to explicitly go to the site and download? are they just trying to keep from getting swamped with auto-updates?

akm, Friday, 20 June 2008 13:43 (seventeen years ago)

some of them you do, some of them you don't -- depends on whether the url information in your existing extensions are accurate, i think

mookieproof, Friday, 20 June 2008 13:47 (seventeen years ago)

Pic Lens is rough when you try to click on a tiny image in a GIS and that stupid Pic Lens arrow won't disappear. Otherwise, yeah it's fun to browse with.

Pleasant Plains, Friday, 20 June 2008 14:37 (seventeen years ago)

@rtc and Mookieproof, merci!

@akm, my FF2 didn't get any update either, after searching for way too long too. Maybe it's to do with the craze that's going on, servers being too busy?

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 20 June 2008 15:22 (seventeen years ago)

alternate colour management option

-- mookieproof, Friday, June 20, 2008 3:19 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

I hardly see the difference between visited (bluish purple) & unvisited (purplish blue) links on ILX when I enable that, unless I use blueski.css or don't "let sites choose their own colors" :-/

StanM, Friday, 20 June 2008 15:29 (seventeen years ago)

Reading about the new version has really highlighted the diversity of browsing habits. Saw someone bragging about how little RAM FF3 used when he had 20 tabs open - uh???

-- Kerm, Friday, 20 June 2008 21:12 (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

I've got 23 open in one instance and two open in another, and it's snagging a reasonable amount of memory but nothing excessive. Part of that could be to do with Linux PWNING WINDOWS ALL OVER THE SHOP though.

Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 21 June 2008 00:13 (seventeen years ago)

I routinely have 20+ tabs open - I fire a bunch up at once from any number of sites and read them throughout the day. This might be a remnant of having free dialup through the old university that cut off after an hour so I'd have to load everything and read later.

Also full-screen Mac error is remedied by wiping my existing profile.

joygoat, Saturday, 21 June 2008 03:58 (seventeen years ago)

shit rules so far
1 point for the windows version: no massive memory leaks killing your system whenever you visit google maps or some such
1 point for mac version: faster than latest safari by about eight lengths
this is actually fucking amazing. this is how a computer program is supposed to work. we're getting there. WE'RE REALLY GETTING THERE.

El Tomboto, Friday, 27 June 2008 05:49 (seventeen years ago)

don't get there too fast el tomboto, lol

Dan I., Friday, 27 June 2008 07:20 (seventeen years ago)

lol

El Tomboto, Friday, 27 June 2008 07:24 (seventeen years ago)

still nothing new but the crashes here. must be some karmic payback for me never having any problems at all with Vista.

Kerm, Friday, 27 June 2008 12:24 (seventeen years ago)

Are you using Safari 4, Tom? Shit be faast

stet, Friday, 27 June 2008 12:32 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord

Western Sahara and French Guiana didn't pull their weight, i notice...

koogs, Thursday, 3 July 2008 14:29 (seventeen years ago)

Boo, Svalbard And Jan Mayen! (East of Greenland and North of Norway) Even Greenlanders managed 482 downloads!

StanM, Thursday, 3 July 2008 15:11 (seventeen years ago)

I had an update recently but it still says I'm using version 2.x

someone explain this shit to me

Ste, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 14:07 (seventeen years ago)

was it like 2.0.0.15? i got that cos i'm too lazy to upgrade :(

DG, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 14:09 (seventeen years ago)

Does anyone know how to stop it flicking out of the tab you're reading to ask if you want to accept a cookie? It's very irritating!

hyggeligt, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 14:32 (seventeen years ago)

tools - options - privacy - accept cookies from sites (but not third party cookies) and keep until they expire

is how my settings are, at least

StanM, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 16:28 (seventeen years ago)

I like it.

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 22:09 (seventeen years ago)

Seems exactly the same to me!

Bodrick III, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 22:11 (seventeen years ago)

I had an update recently but it still says I'm using version 2.x

someone explain this shit to me

Apparently running an upgrade in 2.x will only upgrade you to the latest version of the 2.x tree. You need to download 3.0 directly.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 00:30 (seventeen years ago)

Using FF3, when I log into gmail, it opens the page scrolled part way down. Does this happen to anyone else? It's hardly a big deal, but it is annoying.

krakow, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 07:00 (seventeen years ago)

Thanks StanM, I'll give that a try.

hyggeligt, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 09:45 (seventeen years ago)

Didn't work unfortunately.

hyggeligt, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 11:50 (seventeen years ago)

why does 3.0 not remembering my cookies? having to log into gmail every damn time. and yes i have accept cookies and third party cookies enabled, and no i don't have cookies ticked in the 'clear private data' settings.

ledge, Monday, 14 July 2008 22:16 (seventeen years ago)

wow, FF3 on windows looks like a heap of ass. any good, simple themes?

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 14:27 (seventeen years ago)

Hated it myself at first, but it grew on me.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:13 (seventeen years ago)

But there's always https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6898

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:17 (seventeen years ago)

ahhhh

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 18:52 (seventeen years ago)

Why does French Guianans hate the Firefox?

M.V., Wednesday, 16 July 2008 17:14 (seventeen years ago)

eleven months pass...

Firefox 3.5 is released later today. Supposed to be much faster, thanks to a new JavaScript engine.

Alba, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 07:51 (sixteen years ago)

Downloaded the release candidate. It does seem a lot better with js-heavy pages. And the start up time seems to have improved too.

Alba, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 08:42 (sixteen years ago)

Bah, fuck this. Keeps crashing as type a search into the search bar.

Alba, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 09:23 (sixteen years ago)

It's still slower in tests than the webkit ones, by quite a way, too. Though pure js speed doesn't matter quite as much as they make out: GMail feels like it loads quicker on FF, despite being js-tastic.

stet, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 13:49 (sixteen years ago)

They can take my life, but they can't take my AutoPager.

Detroit Metal City (Nicole), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 14:24 (sixteen years ago)

Phew. Official 3.5 release crashed me all the time too, but resetting toolbars to the default set seems to have fixed it. Hello again 3.5.

Alba, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 17:52 (sixteen years ago)

0 problems here. Everything just feels faster, it's true.

StanM, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 18:22 (sixteen years ago)

I missed the whole 2.0 revolution and have been rocking 1.5 forever. Finally decided to upgrade today and am more than pleased.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 18:24 (sixteen years ago)

I don't know if I believe the map, sometimes there's downloads from the middle of the ocean where no islands are nearby (do they count ships?) - also, wake up australia!

http://downloadstats.mozilla.com/

StanM, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 18:26 (sixteen years ago)

Sorry Azores and Seychelles. So THAT's where you are. :-(

StanM, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 18:28 (sixteen years ago)

wow, google maps is hella faster

ledge, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 18:31 (sixteen years ago)

I'm running this now, not noticing significant more speed, but that's okay. What I really hope for this version to do is to stop crashing on me every once in a while when I try to download something (.doc, .rar, .whatevs).

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 18:32 (sixteen years ago)

If you have plugins that it doesn't want to install, here's a trick you can try (it worked for the two I had it refused to install at first) :

1. download the .xpi file (save it on your hard drive)

2. rename it from pluginname.xpi to pluginname.zip

3. unzip it & edit the install.rdf file with notepad

-> maxversion 3.0.* -> change that to 3.5.* and save the file

4. zip everything back into pluginname.zip and rename that to pluginname.xpi

5. open and install in FF 3.5

6. profit!

(ok, maybe not step 6. Disclaimer: YMMV, but it's worth a try if you don't want to wait until your fav. plugin is updated)

StanM, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 18:41 (sixteen years ago)

this is how it looks in that install.rdf file (don't worry if it's all unix end-of-lines/squares, just search for maxversion, edit and save) :

<em:maxVersion>3.0.*</em:maxVersion>

and you can try to change it to this:

<em:maxVersion>3.5.*</em:maxVersion>

StanM, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 18:42 (sixteen years ago)

Man, I haven't changed in three years. I need to get a new sense of humor right now :-(((

The minimise to tray add-on isn't working! Waaaaaah!

1. download the .xpi file.
2. rename the .xpi file to .zip
3. unzip
4. edit the .rdf file: change maxversion=1.5.0.x to 2.0.x
5. zip again
6. rename the .zip file to .xpi
7. in Firefox: file - open - install
8. profit

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:45 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark

StanM, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 18:45 (sixteen years ago)

much easier way to get around that: go to about:config, right-click, choose "New Boolean", call it extensions.checkCompatibility, set to FALSE and restart.

stet, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 18:46 (sixteen years ago)

Kick @ss! thx!

StanM, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 18:49 (sixteen years ago)

They've made the icons on the bookmarks toolbar smaller or closer together or something - anyway you can get more on there - so that's it for me, sold!

Originally opened in 1964 (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 18:51 (sixteen years ago)

What does that do Stet? Will it simply never check for compatibility but the extensions keep working anyway?

My del.icio.us extension wasn't compatible but works like a charm. Imageshack toolbar though, not so much...

(would insert jamesvanderbeekcrying.gif right now but I can't reach it!)

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 20:13 (sixteen years ago)

It never checks for compatibility -- most times extensions are fine after an update, but yeah sometimes they break. I prefer it not checking because at least it'll have a go at running them instead of just plain refusing.

stet, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 22:24 (sixteen years ago)

Agreed. Will try, thanks.

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 00:00 (sixteen years ago)

Sorry, Firefox, you might as well give up, Microsoft has an unbeatable offer.

StanM, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 18:11 (sixteen years ago)

Microsoft is so the Nickelback of the interwebs.

Detroit Metal City (Nicole), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 18:16 (sixteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

3.5.1 y'all. Fixes a slow startup thingy on some windows systems and some kind of security issue.

StanM, Friday, 17 July 2009 15:16 (sixteen years ago)

> some kind of security issue

the security issue that they told everyone about in their public bug tracker...

koogs, Friday, 17 July 2009 17:13 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

from the dfa thread:

If you use Firefox it's fairly simple to "download" songs direct from Hypem by playing the track and then copying it from your cache.

how can i access the cache? mine seems to be encrypted. would this trick work with embedded videos in sites like bbc.com that hide the vid url in the source data?

NI, Monday, 24 August 2009 09:44 (sixteen years ago)

there's a handy CacheViewer extension that'll show you everything in there.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2489

koogs, Monday, 24 August 2009 10:06 (sixteen years ago)

brilliant, thank you

NI, Monday, 24 August 2009 17:24 (sixteen years ago)


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