― acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:48 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:52 (sixteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:52 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:54 (sixteen years ago) link
― blueski, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:55 (sixteen years ago) link
― Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:56 (sixteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:56 (sixteen years ago) link
― Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:59 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:01 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:01 (sixteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:02 (sixteen years ago) link
― onimo, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:03 (sixteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:04 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:04 (sixteen years ago) link
― djmartian, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:07 (sixteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:08 (sixteen years ago) link
― underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:09 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:12 (sixteen years ago) link
― underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:13 (sixteen years ago) link
― onimo, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:13 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:14 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ed, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:16 (sixteen years ago) link
― onimo, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:17 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:18 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:20 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ed, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:20 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:24 (sixteen years ago) link
― djmartian, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:26 (sixteen years ago) link
― underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:27 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ed, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:30 (sixteen years ago) link
― underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:32 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:32 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:35 (sixteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:38 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:38 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:41 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ed, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:42 (sixteen years ago) link
― underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:43 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:44 (sixteen years ago) link
― Alan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:45 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:46 (sixteen years ago) link
― underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:50 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:21 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ed, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:23 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:23 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:25 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:25 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ed, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:30 (sixteen years ago) link
― onimo, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:31 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:49 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:52 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:02 (sixteen years ago) link
― 600, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:05 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:08 (sixteen years ago) link
― 600, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:08 (sixteen years ago) link
― 600, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:09 (sixteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:09 (sixteen years ago) link
― never acid again, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:10 (sixteen years ago) link
― 600, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:10 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:11 (sixteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:12 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:18 (sixteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:23 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:53 (sixteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:56 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link
― kingfish, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:02 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 08:29 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 08:49 (sixteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 09:23 (sixteen years ago) link
― Heave Ho, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 12:06 (sixteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 12:09 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 12:17 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Trifle II, Friday, 4 May 2007 10:56 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Trifle II, Friday, 4 May 2007 10:57 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Trifle II, Friday, 4 May 2007 10:58 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Trifle II, Friday, 4 May 2007 10:59 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Trifle II, Friday, 4 May 2007 11:02 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Friday, 4 May 2007 11:28 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Friday, 4 May 2007 11:29 (sixteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 4 May 2007 11:47 (sixteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 4 May 2007 12:46 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:17 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:25 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:31 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link
― Frogman Henry, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:22 (sixteen years ago) link
― Frogman Henry, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link
― AmyCamus, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:42 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:49 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:50 (sixteen years ago) link
― Frogman Henry, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:51 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:30 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:39 (sixteen years ago) link
because it's part of the guardian group and because of the hutton/new labour era i still instinctively think of the observer as leftish but it really isn't -- if you look at its history the observer's leftish phase was a tiny blip.
― Forest Pines, Thursday, 17 May 2007 08:07 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Thursday, 17 May 2007 08:09 (sixteen years ago) link
― Groke, Thursday, 17 May 2007 08:54 (sixteen years ago) link
― blueski, Thursday, 17 May 2007 09:35 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 17 May 2007 09:48 (sixteen years ago) link
― Anna, Thursday, 17 May 2007 10:09 (sixteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 17 May 2007 10:16 (sixteen years ago) link
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 17 May 2007 10:18 (sixteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 17 May 2007 10:20 (sixteen years ago) link
― DJ Mencap, Thursday, 17 May 2007 11:10 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 17 May 2007 11:34 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Thursday, 17 May 2007 11:38 (sixteen years ago) link
― Alan, Thursday, 17 May 2007 11:43 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Thursday, 17 May 2007 11:50 (sixteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 17 May 2007 11:55 (sixteen years ago) link
― Bocken Social Scene, Thursday, 17 May 2007 12:00 (sixteen years ago) link
― blueski, Thursday, 17 May 2007 12:01 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Thursday, 17 May 2007 12:04 (sixteen years ago) link
― blueski, Thursday, 17 May 2007 12:12 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Thursday, 17 May 2007 12:15 (sixteen years ago) link
― blueski, Thursday, 17 May 2007 12:19 (sixteen years ago) link
― Anna, Thursday, 17 May 2007 12:22 (sixteen years ago) link
― blueski, Thursday, 17 May 2007 12:26 (sixteen years ago) link
― 696, Thursday, 17 May 2007 12:29 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Thursday, 17 May 2007 12:32 (sixteen years ago) link
― 696, Thursday, 17 May 2007 13:00 (sixteen years ago) link
― 696, Thursday, 17 May 2007 13:02 (sixteen years ago) link
― blueski, Thursday, 17 May 2007 13:09 (sixteen years ago) link
― blueski, Thursday, 17 May 2007 13:12 (sixteen years ago) link
― 696, Thursday, 17 May 2007 13:13 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 17 May 2007 13:56 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:05 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:08 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:10 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:11 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:13 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:14 (sixteen years ago) link
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:26 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tom D., Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:09 (sixteen years ago) link
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:39 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Friday, 18 May 2007 07:59 (sixteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 18 May 2007 08:09 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Friday, 18 May 2007 08:12 (sixteen years ago) link
― Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Friday, 18 May 2007 08:48 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Trifle II, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:09 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Trifle II, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:11 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:13 (sixteen years ago) link
― Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:19 (sixteen years ago) link
― 696, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:25 (sixteen years ago) link
― 696, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:26 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:29 (sixteen years ago) link
― Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:32 (sixteen years ago) link
― ledge, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:35 (sixteen years ago) link
― Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:36 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:39 (sixteen years ago) link
― Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:42 (sixteen years ago) link
― Frogman Henry, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:46 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:47 (sixteen years ago) link
― DJ Mencap, Friday, 18 May 2007 10:00 (sixteen years ago) link
― 696, Friday, 18 May 2007 10:02 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Friday, 18 May 2007 10:07 (sixteen years ago) link
― blueski, Friday, 18 May 2007 10:08 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Friday, 18 May 2007 10:10 (sixteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 18 May 2007 10:11 (sixteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 18 May 2007 10:16 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Friday, 18 May 2007 10:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Lesbian parents: Our sons don't need a dad Anna Lloyd and Jane Harvey could be any middle-class mothers strolling with their sons in their local park. But behind their everyday appearance lies a story of a highly unconventional family - for they are lesbian partners.
― acrobat, Friday, 18 May 2007 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link
well thats kinda what i was trying to get at before, theres a feeling that the british ones dont really believe what they are writing, other than in a kind of "pfft" middle aged white man 'its not even music' type feeling of being pecked at -- 696, Friday, May 18, 2007 9:25 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Link
otm. i think they do what they do as a 'job' -- house style and all that -- not a mission.
― That one guy that quit, Friday, 18 May 2007 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link
melanie phillips is fucking insane thou
― acrobat, Friday, 18 May 2007 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah i was saying elsewhere: she really does mean it. but that's ex-lefties for ya.
― That one guy that quit, Friday, 18 May 2007 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link
and i imagine boris johnson means it.
― acrobat, Friday, 18 May 2007 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link
also remember the crazy ronhaldino bottle opener thread, the general upshot of which seemed to be "lol britishers don't understand racism", i was wondering if british right wing pundits can possibly get away with more dodgy racial stuff than americans can.
― acrobat, Friday, 18 May 2007 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Conservatives appoint ex-tabloid editor
LONDON (Reuters) - Former News of the World editor Andy Coulson, who quit in the wake of a royal phone-tapping scandal, has been appointed the Conservatives' director of communications, the party announced on Thursday.
He stepped down from Rupert Murdoch's tabloid, Britain's biggest selling newspaper, after its royal affairs editor admitted having plotted to intercept phone messages left for royal aides.
The 39-year-old, who previously edited The Sun newspaper's Bizarre gossip column, will take up his new job as director of communications and planning on July 9. He said he was "delighted" to be joining David Cameron's team.
The party leader said: "Andy is a hugely experienced journalist. He will make a formidable contribution as a senior member of my team in building the most effective strategy and operation to win the next general election."
Coulson was regarded as a high-flier in Murdoch's newspaper empire before his resignation in January.
The former Royal Editor, Clive Goodman, was jailed for four months for listening to mobile voice mail messages left for the press secretary of Prince Charles and two officials who worked for Princes William and Harry.
Coulson was cleared of any wrongdoing by the Press Complaints Commission, which said neither he, nor anyone else at the paper, was aware of Goodman's illegal activities.
― acrobat, Thursday, 31 May 2007 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Coming soon
http://i2.digiguide.com/up//1184007600000-609038-TheWaronBritainsJews-1183392030569.jpg
The War on Britain's Jews?The War on Britain's Jews? C4 Mon 9 July 2007, 8pm Richard Littlejohn argues that antisemitism, once the preserve of the extreme right, now has a foothold among other sections of society.
― acrobat, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link
haha -- i saw the trailer, and i was all 'welcome to 2002', and then it said PRESENTED BY RICHARD LITTLEJOHN!!! and i was all "DELETE CHANNEL 4".
― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Littlejohn:anti-semitism::K-Punk:class war
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 08:09 (sixteen years ago) link
you couldn't make it up. i was so angry i put my foot through a yamulkah and sent the bill to ken livingstone.
― acrobat, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 08:14 (sixteen years ago) link
Trust Littlejohn to take a stand against bigotry.
― Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 08:14 (sixteen years ago) link
What if the Jew was also a prostitute though, huh? DILEMMA FOR LILJON
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 08:17 (sixteen years ago) link
i wish i'd seen it, kind of.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 08:29 (sixteen years ago) link
Was he sporting any Spurs merch?
― DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 09:56 (sixteen years ago) link
"women who worked as Jews, and also prostitutes"
― That mong guy that's shit, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 09:58 (sixteen years ago) link
For the first ten minutes all he said was "You've got an ology, you're a scientist!"
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 09:58 (sixteen years ago) link
i saw it, it didn't seem too bad altho the biggest issue of where criticism of Israel becomes anti-semitism wasn't nailed (un-nailable perhaps).
the footage of the MPAC (or whatever they were called) dude goading the Labour woman after she lost her seat was extraordinary.
― blueski, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 11:54 (sixteen years ago) link
Hmmm, that might explain this... http://www.mpacuk.org/content/view/3837/34/
I watched a bit but really his tone is unbearable.
― Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 11:58 (sixteen years ago) link
'non-violent Jihad' has made my day already.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 12:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Thing was itv had an indepth expose of SKINS PARTIES on at exactly the same time. Apprently teenagers are using "MYSPACES" to advertise house parties leading to "DRUG CRAZED VANDAL GATECRASHERS". The best thing was all teh reconstructions. Kinda like the trailers for Skins as reimagined by 999 Lifesavers.
― acrobat, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 14:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Apropos of nothing, here's hoping James Delingpole gets clawed by a polar bear.
And also that's he's got Google Alerts set up for his name, and that he reads this, the silly troll.
― James Mitchell, Monday, 22 March 2010 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link
ooh having been reading the Standard recently, smh @ matthew d'ancona, ffs @ sam leith and LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL @ sarah sands
― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Monday, 22 March 2010 22:58 (fourteen years ago) link
liz jones II: quicksands of destiny
they're all ex telegraph xp
― nakhchivan, Monday, 22 March 2010 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link
then there's bright and bubbly probably-quite-liberal new face of london journalism rosamund urwin, who went to westminster school and probably rode that for all it was worth to get a media career
loooool nah well done her, she's not the worst
sarah sands actually made me cry with laughter recently though. awesome levels of batshit.
― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Monday, 22 March 2010 23:02 (fourteen years ago) link
does anyone pay attention to these dismal hacks anyway
srsly try using her name as yr display name for three weeks and it will be top 5 in her google results
― nakhchivan, Monday, 22 March 2010 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link
it's the way dom passantino would have wanted it ;_;
i think i'll just mention sarah sands a lot on this thread. sarah sands is a hilarious chip-on-shoulder tory who can't construct an argument without coming across as laughable! sarah sands attempted to eke out her own edifice of influence upon the london print media and ended up discarded at the bottom of a thousand empty rail carriages! sarah sands!
― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Monday, 22 March 2010 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link
James Delingpole cuts such a ridiculous figure that if I didn't know better I would assume he was a work of satire. Still, every time I see him I'm comfoted by the fact that even I could beat him up.
― Matt DC, Monday, 22 March 2010 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link
He's such a parody that he must have Chris Morris' hand up his bum.
― James Mitchell, Monday, 22 March 2010 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Sands clings desperately to 'her' surname despite being married to Julian Sands for approximately five seconds. I don't think the shoulder-chip is Tory but it is still living in the '80s.
― ned ragú (suzy), Monday, 22 March 2010 23:20 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^at times like this, suzy proves her worth ;)
NOW DO D'ANCONA.
― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Monday, 22 March 2010 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link
hahahahahahaha Sarah Sands reduced me to hysterics again last week
basically the old bat had withdrawn cash from an oxford st atm and then walked off without the cash, turned to see a woman fleeing into the crowd and the cash gone
ok at this point lol you got played
but then mad sands decides to play her ZING HAND - as the police hadn't been interested (lol) she has a proposal for whoever owns the CCTV footage (lolololol): give it to her and she'll put it on Youtube to *publicly shame* the opportunist
you heard that right, it'll be on youtube where everyone can point and laugh at the swift work of a passer-by, and take the side of a wronged batshit harridan. oh wait
― lllljjjj (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 April 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link
OMG @ Delingpole on the Alex Jones show. Spoiler: his views on the NHS make Daniel Hannan sound sane:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV3HW3lztKc
He's a proper "one world government" fruitloop, too.
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 11 April 2010 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Unless he's just on a wind-up, of course.
did not realize he'd turned trot...
― alpha zingdog (history mayne), Sunday, 11 April 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link
king wolfowitz in reverse
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 11 April 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link
LOL Delingpole wot a legernd
Some of my best friends are gay — but now I can go one better than that: one of them is HIV positive. ‘But that’s brilliant news!’ I told my friend when he spilled the beans the other day. ‘Now I can go round claiming victim cred by association. And if anyone makes an Aids joke I can be, like, seriously offended and put on a solemn voice and say: “Actually, you know, if you had an HIV positive friend like I do...”.’ My friend agreed that being HIV positive was a very handy thing to be, in this respect. But on further consideration, we decided it would have carried more victim cred weight in the days before anti-retroviral drugs when a) it was a death sentence; and b) being gay won you many more oppressed-minority brownie points.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link
iirc delingpole is against the nhs? good luck obtaining anti-retroviral drugs without it (unless, of course, as delingpole's friend probably is, given delingpole's sub-wauvian nob-worship, and assuming he exists, you're rich).
― Norway, that's where I'm a viking! (history mayne), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Delingpole really does have a knack for making the red mist descend. His trolling lunacy aside, he's just a bad fucking writer and his attempts at humour are embarrassing. If he didn't peddle this epater-les-libtards bullshit he wouldn't get any work at all.
― gotanynewsstory? (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
I kinda understand why Liz Jones is Liz Jones now
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-398998/How-feminism-destroyed-real-men.html
holy. freaking. shit.
― she vajazzled....and forgot! (acoleuthic), Saturday, 31 July 2010 00:32 (thirteen years ago) link
All western women need to spend a few months living in the middle east or south America to see how well they have things in the west.
- Graham, London UK, 04/8/2006 12:37
― the crucible of easily debunked e-mail fwds (stevie), Saturday, 31 July 2010 08:26 (thirteen years ago) link
The female orgasm is the natural mechanism by which men assert dominion over women: a man who appreciates this can negotiate whatever difficulties arise in his relationships with them.
Last Christmas, my wife threw me out after discovering I'd been cheating on her. On the night we got back together, I made strong, passionate love to her. Unfaithful as I'd been, I was not going to let her have me over a barrel for the rest of our marriage. I needed to keep a sense of self and not allow her to mire me in guilt and a desperate quest of forgiveness.
o_O to the max
― ledge, Saturday, 31 July 2010 08:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Nice to see Penthouse are still publishing letters
― wd kiss Sunset pig (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 July 2010 08:47 (thirteen years ago) link
ah I don't think it's group Liz w/the right-wing pundits, she's clearly far too schizophrenically demented to be closed down like that.
― Merdeyeux, Saturday, 31 July 2010 10:57 (thirteen years ago) link
uh, fair to.
― Merdeyeux, Saturday, 31 July 2010 11:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Amazing article... I'm forwarding it to my girlfriend right now.- Jonathan, H-Town, USA, 3/8/2006 22:46
- Jonathan, H-Town, USA, 3/8/2006 22:46
If anybody lives in H-Town could you run over to Jonathan's place and suggest that he not do this?
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 31 July 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link
By the way, I note that this article is from 2006 and the couple broke up again a year later. For good? What is this guy up to now? Oh, this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1298569/Britain-need-make-apology-India-Empire-.html
"All that is best about India - its tolerance, freedom and engagement with the world - has flourished due to the structures and ideas it inherited from British rule."
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 31 July 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link
He is a source of much amusement.Honesty puts my ex-wife in a league of her own
― i find music confusing and annoying (Ned Trifle II), Saturday, 31 July 2010 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/cristinaodone/100055666/ed-miliband-hasnt-married-his-pregnant-partner-does-he-have-commitment-phobia/
almost needs her own thread, really
― acoleuthic, Monday, 27 September 2010 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I deplore the decline in morals that allows a man liike this to be potential Prime Minister. Fifty years ago a scandal like this would have ruined him - and rightly so.
This is one more indication of the way this country has descended into the gutter.
― Matt DC, Monday, 27 September 2010 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh god.
― rhythm fixated member (chap), Monday, 27 September 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Possibly that one was a parody, much LOLs to be had by commenters noting Odone's Good Divorce Guide makes her just a peach of a commenter on this subject.
― are you robot? (suzy), Monday, 27 September 2010 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Godwin's law in action:
I'm sorry but I don't understand how people think this is not a matter of issue.
For me everything stems from a person's beliefs and their commitment to them - ideas underpin all actions.
To take an extreme position: do we think Hitler's internal thoughts about the Jews were broadly rosy or dark and sinister? The industrial death camps were imagined somewhere and the nihilistic morality which justified it was the product West European professors.
Our country is on a destructive spiral downwards because the fundamental beliefs of the people are steadily declining. People are less wholesome, less moral, less humble and less - for want of a better word- spiritual.
I think there is a blatant link between increasing dissatisfaction with our own lives and our country with ideas and beliefs which are ever increasingly: impure, selfish, proud and material.
So how a person behaves, the choices they make - is a product of their fundamental beliefs and morality.
So for me a guy who denigrates by his actions marriage or thinks its ok to get women pregnant and offer them little more than hope is not a man I would consider moral or trustworthy and by extrapolation worthy of high office!
I’d rather people strived to be good and fail occasionally than not even bother in the first place.
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 27 September 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
xp yeah although one of them goes on to boldly say
Just another example of how awful women can be and why feminism and lesbian feminism have been among the most [self-] destructive movements in recent decades.
― acoleuthic, Monday, 27 September 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
My internal thoughts about Cristina Odone are dark and sinister. Soz.
― dociah t. azzahole (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 September 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Above commenter showing Godwin's Law in action is obviously Roger Scruton.
― Neil S, Monday, 27 September 2010 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link
I spend so much time getting agitated about Guardian commenters that I forget how vicious and loopy the Telegraph ones can be. There's a rump constituency of immigrant-hating, climate-change-denying, Miliband-is-a-Marxist wingnuts on there, and a lot of the talking points are coming from the US right. It actually makes me miss the clueless Colonel Bufton-Tuftons of old.
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 27 September 2010 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link
didn't read the whole thing but the kiss-off is really something
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100055500/global-cooling-and-the-new-world-order/
― l'avventura: pet detective (history mayne), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Tags: Bilderberg, global cooling, new world order, Nuremberg
RIP telegraph
― joe, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link
srsly
wow
― The Managing Director of Being (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Re: Global warming Nuremburg
I hear book burnings are quite good for this.
― A Reclaimer Hewn With (Michael White), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link
But that post can't be egregious bollocks, because as the heading to his blog says "James Delingpole is a writer, journalist and broadcaster who is right about everything."
― Neil S, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link
:D
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 30 September 2010 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2011/jan/24/james-delingpole-tv-interview
― read before patoing (history mayne), Monday, 24 January 2011 12:37 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't believe many of his views are sincerely held, or that he has thought deeply about AGW or 'working-class comedy' (harking back to this morning’s nonsense on R4).
Uh, working class comedy?
― Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Monday, 24 January 2011 12:42 (thirteen years ago) link
the mail on sunday was manufacturing outrage over a bbc controller saying they should have more shows in working class settings. allo, allo creator blamed that for his latest not getting commissioned.
lol @ this linked in the comments:
http://globalwarmingsuperheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/james-delingpole.jpg
― joe, Monday, 24 January 2011 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link
allo, allo creator blamed that for his latest not getting commissioned
... surely not Jeremy Lloyd!
― Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Monday, 24 January 2011 12:57 (thirteen years ago) link
It was a discussion on Today about whether BBC comedy was too middle class. Delingpole had no useful opinions and just took the opportunity to witter on about the license fee and Hampstead liberal elites as per fucking usual.
― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 24 January 2011 12:57 (thirteen years ago) link
xp afraid so: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1349704/BBC-controller-Danny-Cohen-wants-blue-collar-comedy-How-patronising.html
― joe, Monday, 24 January 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Lollingpole, , advocating setting the people free by not only headquartering businesses in low-tax countries, forcing employees to drop their union memberships and ordering staff to take unreasonable paycuts, but by providing a shitty service and ignoring competition and advertising laws:
One of the greatest advances for personal freedom in the last twenty years was the rise of the low cost airline. Suddenly, thanks to Ryanair, Easyjet and their many imitators, European travel was transformed from the rare luxury of the few into something almost everyone could enjoy, often two or three times a year.[...]One of the key tenets of Conservatism is a desire to set people free: free of the shackles of the state, free to forge their own destiny, free to spend their money on as many exciting new opportunities as a burgeoning market is prepared to offer them.
[...]
One of the key tenets of Conservatism is a desire to set people free: free of the shackles of the state, free to forge their own destiny, free to spend their money on as many exciting new opportunities as a burgeoning market is prepared to offer them.
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 3 April 2011 09:32 (thirteen years ago) link
The ideological rot that is destroying English conservatism
― lively and fuiud (Pashmina), Sunday, 3 April 2011 10:44 (thirteen years ago) link
otm pash
― Republicans voiced concern about young pages hearing the word uterus (stevie), Sunday, 3 April 2011 11:18 (thirteen years ago) link
N IS FOR… NIGGER Perfectly acceptable, nay, compulsory if you are a rapper; no longer so if you are Guy Gibson in The Dam Busters (when the 1955 film is shown now, his faithful black dog’s unfortunate name is often bleeped out). Nor even if you are Huckleberry Finn: in a new version of his Adventures, the offending word – used in Mark Twain’s 1884 classic 217 times – was replaced by “slave”.
Perfectly acceptable, nay, compulsory if you are a rapper; no longer so if you are Guy Gibson in The Dam Busters (when the 1955 film is shown now, his faithful black dog’s unfortunate name is often bleeped out). Nor even if you are Huckleberry Finn: in a new version of his Adventures, the offending word – used in Mark Twain’s 1884 classic 217 times – was replaced by “slave”.
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 15 May 2011 07:48 (twelve years ago) link
(when the 1955 film is shown now, his faithful black dog’s unfortunate name is often bleeped out)
probably no surprise to anyone that this isn't true
wish we could put delingpole in a sack and throw him in a river...d is for 'drowning'
― Romford Spring (DG), Sunday, 15 May 2011 09:59 (twelve years ago) link
Blogs
Damian Thompson Benedict Brogan Norman Tebbit Toby Young James Delingpole
― no xmas for jonchaies (nakhchivan), Sunday, 15 May 2011 10:49 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jfyy_qMg2o
― William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 15 May 2011 10:52 (twelve years ago) link
Y IS FOR… YOOFSWho, thanks to our failing education system's "all shall have prizes" ethos, believe that the world owes them not only a living but also three taxpayer-subsidised years of rutting and drug-taking at university. Tell them it is unaffordable, and they riot around the Cenotaph. This is the generation whose parents were too caring to say "no".
Poor James Delingpole, denied so many opportunities, told "no" so often by his parents :(
It is now many years since I last thought meanly of myself for not having been elected a member of the Buller. But looking at those pictures in the papers this week of Dave Cameron, Boris Johnson and the rest of the '87 gang preening and pouting in full Buller rig did bring it all flooding back to me: the shame, the humiliation and the abject misery I felt the day I realised that I would never be smart, rich, titled, decadent or popular enough to be elected a member of the world's best university's smartest dining society.
Quite.
― russ conway's game of life (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 15 May 2011 10:54 (twelve years ago) link
It is now many years MILLISECONDS since I last thought meanly of myself for not having been elected a member of the Buller. But looking at those pictures in the papers this week of Dave Cameron, Boris Johnson and the rest of the '87 gang preening and pouting in full Buller rig did bring it all flooding back to me: the shame, the humiliation and the abject misery I felt the day I realised that I would never be smart, rich, titled, decadent or popular enough to be elected a member of the world's best university's smartest dining society.
Fixed.
― that's when i reach for my ︻╦╤─* (suzy), Sunday, 15 May 2011 11:01 (twelve years ago) link
take it to TMI please people
― Neil S, Sunday, 15 May 2011 11:02 (twelve years ago) link
Amazing insight from the Adam Smith Institute:
In most coffee shops these days, you'll find that the small, medium, and large coffee cups all use the same size lid now, whereas even five years ago they used to have different size lids for the different cups. That small change in the geometry of the cups means that somebody can save a little time in setting up the coffee shop, preparing the cups, getting your coffee, and getting out. Millions of little discoveries like that, combined with some very big discoveries, like the electric motor and antibiotics, have made the quality of life for people today dramatically higher than it was 100 years ago.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 10:32 (twelve years ago) link
And it's people being paid a good living wage to notice and write about these little changes that keeps the world turning...
― The Boy Who Can Go Inside The TV (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 10:44 (twelve years ago) link
and, of course, an indenture in the head of the person who designed the cups in the first place for not thinking of it from the off.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 10:53 (twelve years ago) link
That A-Z of Political Correctness and the comments that follow is just beyond belief. Thing is, the people who bang on about PC the most are the rightwingers - lefties really don't give that much of a monkeys about it.
― The Boy Who Can Go Inside The TV (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 10:55 (twelve years ago) link
And it doesn’t just happen on this issue but on so many others too. Consider how, for example, the left-liberal bully mob exploited the story about the snogging gay couple turned away from a London pub, or the one about the other gay couple who – quite by accident I’m sure – booked themselves into a Cornish hotel run by ardent Christians who insisted rooms should be shared by married couples only. In both those cases important issues of genuine concern to the wellbeing of our country – how far should minority “rights” be allowed to trump property rights and freedom of choice, for example? – were drowned in a sea of Twitterish name-calling. Anyone who tried putting the counterargument – even someone like me with almost as many gay friends as straight ones – was blithely written off as a homophobe.This is the kind of moral and intellectual decadence that is leading once free and prosperous nations like Britain and the US into decline and ultimately towards ruination. And what’s really depressing is just how few people are aware of it, let alone fighting it. For example, I noticed several self-described conservatives in the comments below parading just how offended they too were by the NoW’s underhand techniques. Well, yes. Duh! Everyone was, you blithering idiots (except maybe the tabloid hacks and private investigators who were doing of it).But here’s the thing, while the liberal-left (and its useful idiots on the alleged right, I fear) are busy demonstrating to the world how caring and nice they are, really bad dangerous things are being done in the name of caringness and niceness. I think of the environmental and economic damage which is being done behind a cloak of ecological virtue. [For myriad examples see my new book Watermelons] I think of the suicidal deficit which is being stoked for fear of offending public service workers (who, as we know, are so much more caring and nice and altruistic than anyone in the productive sector of the economy). I think of the freedoms which are being taken away and the unfairnesses codified and the further suicide bombings being invited in the name of being nice and caring to various minorities. I think of the jobs that are being lost and the recovery delayed by a government too scared to lower the tax rate lest it be thought insufficiently caring and nice towards the deserving poor.
This is the kind of moral and intellectual decadence that is leading once free and prosperous nations like Britain and the US into decline and ultimately towards ruination. And what’s really depressing is just how few people are aware of it, let alone fighting it. For example, I noticed several self-described conservatives in the comments below parading just how offended they too were by the NoW’s underhand techniques. Well, yes. Duh! Everyone was, you blithering idiots (except maybe the tabloid hacks and private investigators who were doing of it).
But here’s the thing, while the liberal-left (and its useful idiots on the alleged right, I fear) are busy demonstrating to the world how caring and nice they are, really bad dangerous things are being done in the name of caringness and niceness. I think of the environmental and economic damage which is being done behind a cloak of ecological virtue. [For myriad examples see my new book Watermelons] I think of the suicidal deficit which is being stoked for fear of offending public service workers (who, as we know, are so much more caring and nice and altruistic than anyone in the productive sector of the economy). I think of the freedoms which are being taken away and the unfairnesses codified and the further suicide bombings being invited in the name of being nice and caring to various minorities. I think of the jobs that are being lost and the recovery delayed by a government too scared to lower the tax rate lest it be thought insufficiently caring and nice towards the deserving poor.
― James Mitchell, Monday, 11 July 2011 08:49 (twelve years ago) link
Those minorities with their crazy “rights”.
― that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Monday, 11 July 2011 09:02 (twelve years ago) link
"some of my best friends are of the homosexual persuasion"
― Neil S, Monday, 11 July 2011 09:04 (twelve years ago) link
[For myriad examples see my new book Watermelons, self-published via Amazon's Kindle because no fucker will publish a whole book of my badly-written anti-science bullshit]
― James Mitchell, Monday, 11 July 2011 09:11 (twelve years ago) link
Usually a sounds like a smug troll trying to wind up the left but here he sounds like a bona fide, frothing, Glenn Beckian maniac.
― Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Monday, 11 July 2011 09:25 (twelve years ago) link
Some full-on one-world-government craziness here:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100095817/un-reveals-its-master-plan-for-destruction-of-global-economy/
― Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Monday, 11 July 2011 10:10 (twelve years ago) link
Tags: Kuznets curve, Limits to growth, more dangerous than Al Qaeda, new world order, rationing, Rob Vos, United Nations, Watermelons, World Economic and Social Survey 2011
All this talk of watermelons is making me feel hungry!
― Neil S, Monday, 11 July 2011 10:32 (twelve years ago) link
'raaaacist'
^^ ok so this is some sub taking the piss out of dely p, right?
― do the hypnic jerk (c sharp major), Monday, 11 July 2011 10:41 (twelve years ago) link
I worry about him - as DL says he seems to be moving into real crazy territory. He's even having a go at his supporters in the first one.
― that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Monday, 11 July 2011 10:50 (twelve years ago) link
worry about him in the sense that maybe he won't die in the next 6 months?
― Everyday is a Whining Choad (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 July 2011 10:51 (twelve years ago) link
the one about the other gay couple who – quite by accident I’m sure – booked themselves into a Cornish hotel run by ardent Christians who insisted rooms should be shared by married couples only
is this sarcastic? really? like there is a dastardly plot in which of course they interrogated the capacity for bigotry of the hoteliers before they set-off?
― Genre Fiction › Men's Adventure (schlump), Monday, 11 July 2011 11:14 (twelve years ago) link
There was actually a very balanced doc on Radio 4 a few months ago interviewing both the couple and the owners and discovering what happened and clearly it was an accident. But why check facts when you can insert parenthetical smears?
― Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Monday, 11 July 2011 11:19 (twelve years ago) link
i just didn't know that there was even an assumption that this was obviously or presumably a gay plot, you know.
― Genre Fiction › Men's Adventure (schlump), Monday, 11 July 2011 12:09 (twelve years ago) link
right wing nutbars = everything's a plot
― Everyday is a Whining Choad (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 July 2011 12:14 (twelve years ago) link
= easy way to make a living.
― sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Monday, 11 July 2011 12:16 (twelve years ago) link
"Twitterish name-calling"
― positively clean dishes (absolutely clean glasses), Monday, 11 July 2011 12:17 (twelve years ago) link
Delingpole now has blood on his hands:
Although Breivik’s conspiracy theories are insane, they are in line with mainstream opinion among American conservatives. He cites Christopher Monckton’s speech before the Minnesota Free Market Institute in 2009, accusing President Obama of trying to cede United States sovereignty to the United Nations through climate treaties. Monckton — a rabid conspiracy theorist who claims his opponents are Nazis — was a Republican witness before Congress on global warming in 2010.Breivik also believed that the “Climategate” hacking incident “revealed how top scientists conspired to falsify data in the face of declining global temperatures in order to prop up the premise that man-made factors are driving climate change.”One of his sources for this delusional claim is right-wing climate conspiracy theorist James Delingpole, who regularly appears on Fox News, including Glenn Beck‘s now defunct show. The Norwegian terrorist also cited climate conspiracy blogger Steve McIntyre, who appeared in a one-hour Fox News special on global warming in 2009. McIntyre’s conspiracy theories have been promoted by Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) and Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-OK). Dozens of Republican members of Congress have endorsed the Climategate conspiracy theory.
Breivik also believed that the “Climategate” hacking incident “revealed how top scientists conspired to falsify data in the face of declining global temperatures in order to prop up the premise that man-made factors are driving climate change.”
One of his sources for this delusional claim is right-wing climate conspiracy theorist James Delingpole, who regularly appears on Fox News, including Glenn Beck‘s now defunct show. The Norwegian terrorist also cited climate conspiracy blogger Steve McIntyre, who appeared in a one-hour Fox News special on global warming in 2009. McIntyre’s conspiracy theories have been promoted by Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) and Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-OK). Dozens of Republican members of Congress have endorsed the Climategate conspiracy theory.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
well, not really. unless, like, herbert marcuse is to be held responsible for andreas baader.
― only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
lets dig up marcuses corpse and hold a synod!
― max, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2025490/Somalia-famine-makes-mockery-world-I-come-from.html
"a pathetic attempt at pride"
just kidding old girl, you did good, just try to curb that ditzy matrician schtick once a bloody paragraph, you're not talking about nirpal now
― once a week is ample, Saturday, 13 August 2011 02:28 (twelve years ago) link
Could hardly bring myself to read past "This woman did what she had to do. If she allowed herself that ultimate Western accessory depression, then she would just lie down in the sand and die."
― ailsa, Saturday, 13 August 2011 05:53 (twelve years ago) link
That's actually worse than the parody twitter account suggested it might be.
And at least that had the grace to turn out to be a charity stunt.
― Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Saturday, 13 August 2011 08:04 (twelve years ago) link
The knives are out for Herman Cain, as of course they would be. He's personable, he's clever, he's funny, he has a proven business track record, he's small government, he has original ideas, he's post-political, he'd make a way better US president than either Perry or Romney (let alone Obama). But most damningly of all, he's black.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
But the real loathing and resentment will come from the other side. Remember, it was the GOP which campaigned to end the slave trade, not the Democrats.
Delingpole: the Voice of 1865
― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
"original ideas" such as insane tax reforms.
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
I'm sure it's quite possible that the allegations are true. Likely, even. As we know, politics attracts men who are addicted to power; power is aphrodisiacal. Cain would hardly be the first type A individual to make a flagrant pass at an attractive woman. Sure these things must be a huge pain to put up with if you're female. But the idea that such wearisomely routine alpha male behaviour ought to render a man unsuitable for high political office is naive in the extreme: Palmerston? Lloyd George? Bill Clinton?
pick-up/men's rights lingo getting mainstreamed is one of the hidden stories of the last few years imo
― goole, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link
this man's slow-but-painful death cannot come quickly enuff imho
― The doctor smiled, realizing that he had made his point. (stevie), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
The fact that 21st century Telegraph bloggers are allowed to tag their posts with "uppity negro" for SEO purposes says something about the whole enterprise, although I'm not quite sure what.
The Telegraph: your top news source for all your uppity negro news.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
lol that's the only article with that tag
― goole, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
‘Farage has only got one ball.’ The last time I made reference to the Ukip leader’s monotesticular status, I got a rocket from an outraged reader. But the reader had missed the point entirely. Nigel Farage’s handicap is a strength, not a weakness. He’s open about it, he’s unembarrassed by it and he’s a better man for it. Yes, Farage may have lost a bollock to cancer, but by God he’s got more cojones than almost any Conservative you could name.Our Nigel is a Conservative himself, of course. Just one who has been temporarily dispossessed by the mainstream party. When you talk to Farage he’s perfectly upfront about what he considers to be Ukip’s role: to act as the Tory party’s conscience. The moment the Conservatives start behaving like proper Conservatives again — Eurosceptical, small government, low tax, etc — that’ll be it. Most of the 7 per cent of voters who are currently Ukip’s will be straight back into the Tory fold and we’ll have a proper, Thatcherite government again doing the Lord’s work.Seven per cent! That figure — from the latest YouGov poll — is pretty amazing, isn’t it? It puts Ukip only one point away from the ailing Lib Dems, meaning it’s on track to become Britain’s third largest political party. Yet you’d scarcely be aware of this development, the way it has been ignored by most of our mainstream media.
Our Nigel is a Conservative himself, of course. Just one who has been temporarily dispossessed by the mainstream party. When you talk to Farage he’s perfectly upfront about what he considers to be Ukip’s role: to act as the Tory party’s conscience. The moment the Conservatives start behaving like proper Conservatives again — Eurosceptical, small government, low tax, etc — that’ll be it. Most of the 7 per cent of voters who are currently Ukip’s will be straight back into the Tory fold and we’ll have a proper, Thatcherite government again doing the Lord’s work.
Seven per cent! That figure — from the latest YouGov poll — is pretty amazing, isn’t it? It puts Ukip only one point away from the ailing Lib Dems, meaning it’s on track to become Britain’s third largest political party. Yet you’d scarcely be aware of this development, the way it has been ignored by most of our mainstream media.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 10 November 2011 10:49 (twelve years ago) link
Sensible policies for a better Britain.
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Thursday, 10 November 2011 11:40 (twelve years ago) link
We really need a James Delingpole slam thread but he is pretty much #1* on my list of terrible people who are likely to Google their own name and start posting.
*Johann Hari RIP.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 10 November 2011 12:35 (twelve years ago) link
The moment the Conservatives start behaving like proper Conservatives again — Eurosceptical, small government, low tax, etc — that’ll be it. Most of the 7 per cent of voters who are currently Ukip’s will be straight back into the Tory fold and we’ll have a proper, Thatcherite government again doing the Lord’s work.
fuck me, where does one begin with this? proper Conservatives = Thatcherite? The current gov is not ultra-Thatcherite? Thatcherite government was small? Low taxes = poll tax?
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 10 November 2011 12:37 (twelve years ago) link
it's like he makes up everything on the spot without giving it any thought whatsoever!
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Thursday, 10 November 2011 12:39 (twelve years ago) link
Low taxes = poll tax?
When these guys say low taxes they only mean low taxes for themselves and their friends and family, and if you can come with a tax that is massively unfair to people poorer than them then all the better!
― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 November 2011 12:54 (twelve years ago) link
Rod Liddle had been officially cited for contempt of court after a piece in the Spectator describing the current Lawrence trial as a 'vindictive charade'.
― Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Thursday, 17 November 2011 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
Judge has referred it to the AG.
― Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Thursday, 17 November 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link
yes, the "vindictive charade" of wishing to prosecute those who stand accused of a racist murder. PC gorn mad etc. etc.
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Thursday, 17 November 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/2QaIO.jpg
― The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 November 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
Rod Liddle is being "fearless" again I see.
― Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 26 January 2012 14:28 (twelve years ago) link
he writes what others are AFRAID to write (for fear of sounding like an idiot)
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Thursday, 26 January 2012 14:32 (twelve years ago) link
Writes what others afraid to read morelikeamirite?
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
he makes Littlejohn read like Swift.
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Thursday, 26 January 2012 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
"Liddle is a member of the Labour Party"
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think that prevents him from being right wing.
― Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
it's compulsory iirc
― summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
"rod liddle is visibly drinking himself to death"
― dave cool it (stevie), Thursday, 26 January 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
Must fancy a job at Forbes:
Does this mean, then, that Americans are conservative fuddy-duddies while we Brits are bold stylistic adventurers forever at the bleeding edge of trendiness? Up to a point. But the truth is, to paraphrase Stephen Fry, whatever sweeping generalisation you care to make about America, you’ll find the opposite is also true. For example, there’s no doubt that America was glacially slow to pick up on music’s most important development in the past 25 years: dance. In Britain – thanks to acid house and Balearic beats, which soon mutated into warehouse rave and so on – dance music was well under way by 1987. In America, it wasn’t till the mid-Nineties that repetitive beats had begun to penetrate the mainstream.Part of America’s problem, perhaps, was grunge. The US felt so incredibly chuffed, apparently, to have invented Nirvana (and Pearl Jam and the rest) that it seemed determined to rest on its laurels and go on churning out bouncy, grinding guitar rock for all eternity. The fickle British music scene has never permitted such complacency, not least because of the intense competition between our cities. From Bristol came the dub-heavy trip-hop scene and drum and bass; from Manchester came the dance-rock crossover called Baggy, as well as Oasis; from London, we’ve had everything from the chirpy mockney of Britpop to dubstep. We invent more genres in a decade that the US has managed in its entire musical history.
Part of America’s problem, perhaps, was grunge. The US felt so incredibly chuffed, apparently, to have invented Nirvana (and Pearl Jam and the rest) that it seemed determined to rest on its laurels and go on churning out bouncy, grinding guitar rock for all eternity. The fickle British music scene has never permitted such complacency, not least because of the intense competition between our cities. From Bristol came the dub-heavy trip-hop scene and drum and bass; from Manchester came the dance-rock crossover called Baggy, as well as Oasis; from London, we’ve had everything from the chirpy mockney of Britpop to dubstep. We invent more genres in a decade that the US has managed in its entire musical history.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 05:30 (twelve years ago) link
Nothing more cutting edge than Britpop.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 06:46 (twelve years ago) link
it was lol when Delingpole was namechecking RJD2 in his column a while back
― Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 08:28 (twelve years ago) link
We invent more genres in a decade that the US has managed in its entire musical history.
Of course, because the only genres the US has invented are Dixieland and grunge.
― rain came down like water falling from the clouds (snoball), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 09:15 (twelve years ago) link
On similar note in today's Telegraph (the printed version, not the website they let Delingpole drool all over):
Eager to endear himself to young voters, Gordon Brown professed himself to be an unlikely fan of the Arctic Monkeys. David Cameron is, however, unlikely to provoke any cruel titters with his more believable choice: Whiskey in the Jar by Thin Lizzy. “It has one of the best guitar riffs in the history of rock music,” the Prime Minister says, demonstrating some knowledge of the music in question. “I have it on i-tunes or play it when needing a lift.” Proving that he is a genuinely groovy guy, Cameron is backing Rock the House, a parliamentary music competition founded by my old friend Mike Weatherley.
“It has one of the best guitar riffs in the history of rock music,” the Prime Minister says, demonstrating some knowledge of the music in question. “I have it on i-tunes or play it when needing a lift.”
Proving that he is a genuinely groovy guy, Cameron is backing Rock the House, a parliamentary music competition founded by my old friend Mike Weatherley.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 09:24 (twelve years ago) link
Jeez, I thought that Gordon Brown being an Arctic Monkeys fan was debunked a long time ago. Still it's best not to let the facts get in the way.
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 09:53 (twelve years ago) link
“We live in an increasingly godless society, where Christians are marginalised, sacked and even prosecuted for upholding their beliefs, yet we are urged to ‘Pray 4 Muamba’” sighed Richard Littlejohn of The Daily Mail. “With a dwindling number of people attending church, millions have taken to worshipping footballers and celebrities instead. In the words of G. K. Chesterton: ‘When people stop believing in God, they don’t believe in nothing – they believe in anything.’”
otm, man. otm.
― less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
pray 4 muamba not pray 2 muamba, surely?
― brokering (pimping) (stevie), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:16 (twelve years ago) link
God I'm sick of that Chesterton quote.
― Fizzles, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
i believe he added 2+2 together, not an uncommon littlejohn trait- tho i understand that it's quite unusual for him not to get 5
― less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
The Daily Mail, well known for its lofty disdain for footballers and celebrities.
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
hang on is Littlejohn claiming to be a christian? cos i have questions
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
shoot
― less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
piers morgan claims to be a christian too so i guess anything is possible
― caek, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
if christ were alive today he would smite young black millionaires too, i guess, i dunno
― less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
He'd put a stop to all this 'compassionate lefty' business, fako!
― Mark G, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
Have it in my head it's a fake or messed-up one? Could be wrong, cba checking – it does have that authentic Chesterton "a-ha" quality that gets up my nose, esp when he does it four times in a paragraph.
― woof, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
believing in 'anything' isn't qualitatively different from believing in god, at least some of the 'anything' might be true
― less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
well said, Fizzles -- the Chesterton line, real or not, is an irritating smug thing that people say but that is not apparently true.
I have never believed in a god, and I don't believe in 'anything' either, supposing that 'anything' here might mean, say (as I think it does when people spout that line): mysticism, tarot, astrology, alternative medicine and other 'superstitions', or even supposing it means (eg) worshipping the royal family or celebrities.
and the same probably goes for most atheists.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
ts: "I believe in nothing" vs "I don't believe in nothing"
― Mark G, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSpCXUhp2uA
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
Wikiquote agrees with you: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/G._K._Chesterton#Misattributed
That Littlejohn quote is nuts - as Stevie says, it's praying FOR Muamba, not TO him. I mean, I have problems with the fact that people are suggesting prayers instead of, you know, trained medical assistance, but FFS Littlejohn, you are an ass.
xposts - and yes, the falsely attributed quote is stupid anyway, it's not even attempting to make its conclusion follow logically on from its premises, it's just a piece of dogma.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
xps (ty emil.y)
turns out i could be arsed. Not Chesterton, but a critic's paraphrase of this from one of his Father Brown stories:
‘It’s the first effect of not believing in God that you lose your common sense and can’t see things as they are. Anything that anybody talks about, and says there’s a good deal in it, extends itself indefinitely like a vista in a nightmare. And a dog is an omen, and a cat is a mystery, and a pig is a mascot, and a beetle is a scarab, calling up all the menagerie of polytheism from Egypt and old India; Dog Anubis and great green-eyed Pasht and all the holy howling Bulls of Bashan; reeling back to the bestial gods of the beginning, escaping into elephants and snakes and crocodiles; and all because you are frightened of four words: ‘He was made Man’.’
Less snappy that.
― woof, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
‘He was made Man’.’
http://www.thehollywoodnews.com/wp-content/uploads/joe_pesci-237x300.jpg
― less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
no, he was not made man, that was problem
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
It’s the first effect of not believing in God that you lose your common sense and can’t see things as they are
amazing, tbh
― less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
what a daft, virtually incomprehensible quotation
the lameness and falsehood of it curiously seems to undermine the 'believe in anything' BS even more than I thought it had already been undermined.
d-Mac correct also.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
not to be Cap'n Save-a-Chesterton but i wonder to what extent the outspoken antichristians of his era were on a theosophical tip, you could argue he's tilting at the New Age tendency of redirected faith rather than yr cold hard logical atheists. either way polytheism is way more fun and fulfilling than monotheism, obv
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
not believing in one thing != being willing to believe in anything. Even Littlejohn should be able to understand that. It's like he doesn't actually believe what he writes, and simply does it for the large wads of cash and to provoke a reaction.
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
re. Chesterton, he was a fervent Cathlic wasn't he. I would suspect he'd have had problems with any non-Catholic forms of Christianity, let alone Theosophy etc.
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
Chesterton was a convert iirc which is worse, even. but the Father Brown doesn't feel aimed at atheism in toto
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
The Man Who Was Thursday is not too keen on "anarchists", and can allegedly be seen as a Christian allegory. As much about the politics of the Edwardian age as religion, though.
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
The Man Who Was Thursday was pre-conversion iirc? And the Father Brown stories, esp the first two volumes are really good. I'm a fan! I ever quite like his Apologetic book on converting to Catholicism, Orthodoxy. But that 'a-ha!' quality woof mentioned is f'ing annoying - esp. in his journalistic essays, where it's almost a tic.
― Fizzles, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i like Chesterton's work which is why it feels unfair comparing him to Littlejohn because i'm pretty sure GKC was, at the least, sincere.
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
it's one thing banging out outrageous opinions for money but if Liljon has read literally anything at all about this and concluded that 'pray 4 Muamba' means that people are treating him as some sort of deity then I can't even
― Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
xpost - And yes, NV otm about the tilting at redirected faith against theosophical and New Age stuff, or, say, faith in lie-detecting machines or that violent books make children violent - he's a good defender of the metaphysical against obtuse materialism.
― Fizzles, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
xps
yeah, he came quite a long way round. Think the family was unitarian, so v familiar with a rational sort of christianity, off the rails for a while then Anglican for a long time, then rome.
in the story he's talking to a young 'heathen humanitarian', & just preceeding the bit quoted there's a line about 'It’s drowning all your old rationalism and scepticism, it’s coming in like a sea; and the name of it is superstition.' So I think he thinks spiritualism/theosophy – 'arbitrary without being authoritative' to quote the story again – is a necessary consequence of unCatholicism/rationalism?
modern right-wing pundits - suspect Damian Thompson's attacks on pseudo-science something like a modern equivalent to this?
― woof, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
sorry 'spiritualism/theosophy & superstition generally'
― woof, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
Hanging is too good for him IMOhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18350615
― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Thursday, 7 June 2012 11:36 (eleven years ago) link
pretty sure I'll experience acute and genuine pleasure when Rod Liddle dies just fyi
― geezargh butlargh (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 7 June 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link
Next-level:
http://melaniephillips.com/america-goes-into-the-darkness
― Neil S, Thursday, 8 November 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
Iran can now be sure that it will be able to complete its infernal construction of a genocide bomb to use against the Jews and the west
A GENOCIDE BOMB
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Thursday, 8 November 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
The World Turned Upside DownBy Melanie Phillips. Now in paperback with a new foreword by David Mamet
― woof, Thursday, 8 November 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
do not want
― Neil S, Thursday, 8 November 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
It was Christianity and the Hebrew Bible that gave us our concepts of reason, progress and an orderly world
(citation needed)
― Dog the Puffin Hunter (ledge), Thursday, 8 November 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link
I read that whole thing in the voice of Geoff Workman.
― how's life, Thursday, 8 November 2012 14:30 (eleven years ago) link
tbf to Melanie it was Christians who destroyed the library at Alexandria so she may not have heard of classical Greece
― movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 November 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link
i'll admit i'm down with the great blood-letting, not metaphorically tho
― movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 November 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
if the blood-letting involves those who take the Dacre shilling, I'm all for it too.
― Neil S, Thursday, 8 November 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link
jfc liddle
― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 June 2014 09:31 (nine years ago) link
bad form to drop my mask on ilx but jfc liddle
― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 June 2014 09:35 (nine years ago) link
He's vile
What rodent would you say he most resembles physically
― Knob Dicks (wins), Sunday, 22 June 2014 09:39 (nine years ago) link
I don't feel all that strongly about most rodents and he's far too fatfaced and smug looking to pass for a rat so idk
― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 June 2014 09:44 (nine years ago) link
What mask? Always been a confirmed omnisceptic - a thoroughly defensible position
― avicii usque ad arse (imago), Sunday, 22 June 2014 10:03 (nine years ago) link
only if you knew my backstory tbh but this is about the breathtaking rod liddle
― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 June 2014 10:14 (nine years ago) link
link
― avicii usque ad arse (imago), Sunday, 22 June 2014 11:45 (nine years ago) link
sorry I was scoring goals ffs
today's Sunday times he outlines why he's supporting Netherlands by don't of insulting all the other countries in his own inimitable way
― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 June 2014 12:28 (nine years ago) link
by dint predictive text is a terrible man
― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 June 2014 12:29 (nine years ago) link
i took a look in that freebie of the Sun that they put out last week
the editorial said some guff about "loving your country used to be thought of as racist but not any more"
then every other page was full of snide little digs at other countries including a whole column of Liddle doing his "jungle starts at Calais" shtick
fuck every last one of them imo
― Kevin from Blechgium (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 June 2014 15:17 (nine years ago) link
There was some p. amazing trolling in that free Sun column, like a bit in the middle about "oh hey I'm just gonna use the words Britain and England interchangeably because that's what Britain is all about to me" just dropped in all casual-like
also a bit about how terrible it would be to live in Belgium, which distracted me from the rest of the article because I was too busy thinking "sounds p. good to me apart from the unpronounceable language"
anyway I was embarrassed that this got shoved through the doors of all the flats in this block as half of my neighbours are, y'know, not English
― the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 22 June 2014 18:35 (nine years ago) link
Dutch is closely related to English, or do you mean French?
― Barry Gordy (Neil S), Sunday, 22 June 2014 21:17 (nine years ago) link
I wonder if they bothered to deliver their garbage a mile down the road from me where the racial presence is about 90% non-white? The usual Ron Liddle bile + unrealistic jingoist crap about crap england team. No doubt most of that worthless shit was being used to line cat-litter trays within minutes.
― xelab, Sunday, 22 June 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link
https://samkriss.wordpress.com/2016/05/23/nick-cohen-is-in-your-house/
― ghosts that don't exist (Neil S), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 08:30 (seven years ago) link
Why is it so many British Right Wing Pundits used to be Trotskyists?
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 09:12 (seven years ago) link
great piece
it's not a question of their ex politics so much as their upbringing I suspect
― Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 09:30 (seven years ago) link
I feel kind of sad about Dale Winton's unexpected heel turn. or had he shown inclinations of this sort on previous occasions, and they'd passed me by?
http://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/dale-winton-donald-trump-is-he-hero-or-villain/
― soref, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link
I'm guessing a celeb of Winton's stature hasn't lived in the real world for a very very long time.
― it's getting ott in here / so take off all your clothes (stevie), Thursday, 26 May 2016 08:53 (seven years ago) link
Some BRWPs and their Twitter clout
Milo Yiannopoulos: 234k (this has rocketed up from 60k or so within the last year but I get the impression he does go in for fake follower shenans)-Louise Mensch: 97kDan Hodges: 65.5kToby Young: 51.2k-James Delingpole: 28.3kMelanie Philips: 23.7kDavid Vance: 22kJon Gaunt: 19.8kSarah Vine: 13k (has duly quit Twitter)
― nashwan, Thursday, 26 May 2016 09:59 (seven years ago) link
Are there any BRWPs who make their point with class and elegance? Apart from NRQ obv
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:03 (seven years ago) link
Oborne? Is he still alive?
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:07 (seven years ago) link
Yiannopoulos is US-centric these days? That might explain why he's 10 times more popular than, er, Melanie Phillips.
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:08 (seven years ago) link
Oborne came out strongly against Goldsmith recently.
Parris is one of the more sensible ones, though presumably considered a bit wet, and Hitchens seems to be winning friends on both sides atm.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:11 (seven years ago) link
Hitchens was on R4 last night, talking about his SWP days and his path to enlightenment.
― calzino, Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:17 (seven years ago) link
oh it's true, Oborne has written some fairly decent things in vague memory. i'm sure he's also said some horrid things too but that's the nature of it
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:17 (seven years ago) link
he seems to cleave to a sort of Peter Mannion-esque old-fashioned-Tory-decency shtick
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:18 (seven years ago) link
Extremely Mannionesque.
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:21 (seven years ago) link
Hitchens seems to be winning friends on both sides atm.
He's insane though. I'm assuming he is not on Twitter.
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:23 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/ClarkeMicah28.7k followers
― nashwan, Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:28 (seven years ago) link
Had to check who David Vance was, he's some piece of work that guy.
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:32 (seven years ago) link
Lotta ironical lols when you GIS him though.
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:33 (seven years ago) link
Had Peter Hitchens in my place of work earlier, very polite and decent fellow, on first impressions.
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link
He's the absolute worst.
― two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 19:04 (seven years ago) link
just clicked that link to Hitchens' twitter feed, and saw this interchange (under his pinned tweet), ice cold:
Philip Redbrooke @PK_Roe Jul 7@ClarkeMicah hello sir, I am a young (ish) Tory activist in Herts. Would like to talk with you about Social Conservatism at a conv time. TaPeter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah Jul 8@PK_Roe I debate with readers on my archived, indexed blog.Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah Jul 8@PK_Roe But if you are an activist in the Blairite Tory Party the only thing I have to say to you is 'resign now'
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah Jul 8@PK_Roe I debate with readers on my archived, indexed blog.
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah Jul 8@PK_Roe But if you are an activist in the Blairite Tory Party the only thing I have to say to you is 'resign now'
― soref, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link
You'd think so, but he was very pleasant to deal with. Kwasi Kwarteng came in later, now he is a dick.
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 22:04 (seven years ago) link
Hitchens is not the worst, Delingpole is https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jan/05/james-delingpole-article-calling-ocean-acidification-alarmism-cleared-by-press-watchdog?CMP=twt_gu
― Neil S, Thursday, 5 January 2017 14:14 (seven years ago) link
can't get over this photo of Peter Hitchens from 1969
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/6f/55/6c/6f556cd56570db6384477dbc9e5a4226--interesting-history-peter-otoole.jpg
― soref, Friday, 6 October 2017 10:34 (six years ago) link
His campaign for real Conservatism, the crusade against cannabis and for the restoration of the death penalty. They were just little acorns of thought in his mind at this point.
― calzino, Friday, 6 October 2017 10:49 (six years ago) link
He makes me lol so much when refers to Blair as a Marxist. I mean you'd think someone who used to dress like that would know a Marxist when he sees one!
― calzino, Friday, 6 October 2017 10:52 (six years ago) link
I could imagine a grizzled + ageing (i.e. looking past getting ID'ed) Owen Jones being more right wing than Hitchens in the future.
― calzino, Friday, 6 October 2017 11:04 (six years ago) link
Long hair and sideburns, but still looks like an arrogant twat who knows what's good for you.
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 6 October 2017 11:08 (six years ago) link
Having that smug type of countenance that silently says "your'e wrong and I'm right you fucking pleb!" is probably quite a burden! Or is it something you just naturally grow into?
― calzino, Friday, 6 October 2017 11:11 (six years ago) link
I listen to Radio 3, and occasionally they get this cunt on to talk. Here's your smug patrician countenance:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Author%20photos/Simon_Heffer1-xlarge.png
As if Anne McElvoy on Free Thinking wasn't bad enough.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 6 October 2017 11:58 (six years ago) link
I am ashamed to admit I was once in a lift with that cunt and didn't stab him. Not that I had a knife on me at the time.
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 6 October 2017 12:21 (six years ago) link
that's truly a horrible old england face
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 6 October 2017 12:25 (six years ago) link
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Author%20photos/Simon_Heffer1-xlarge.pnghttps://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/4/26/1366993851778/Sir-John-Houblon-pictured-011.jpg
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 6 October 2017 12:27 (six years ago) link
unngh
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/24/article-0-1AB6DBCE00000578-814_634x326.jpg
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 6 October 2017 12:28 (six years ago) link
Think I've come around to Peter Hitchens a little in so much as I still think he's wrong about almost everything, but is at least operating from what appears to be sincerely held beliefs and is at least courteous (if not respectful) to his opponents (which seems to be basically everyone)On the other hand my dislike of Matthew Parris, who seems to be treated as one of the good uns, knows no bounds.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 6 October 2017 12:30 (six years ago) link
Man alive...
A few more of the guests we've got coming up on #AftertheNews - join us from Monday after the @itvnews at Ten pic.twitter.com/19OuQco0B6— After The News (@AfterTheNewsITV) October 5, 2017
― nashwan, Friday, 6 October 2017 12:31 (six years ago) link
Beyond The Facts
― nashwan, Friday, 6 October 2017 12:34 (six years ago) link
I am not sure JRM is especially conservative. https://t.co/qVNsEvCETC— Peter Hitchens (@ClarkeMicah) October 7, 2017
― calzino, Saturday, 7 October 2017 15:42 (six years ago) link
As you must be aware, true conservatism is now the counter culture, so you and Rees-Mogg are slowly gaining rockstar status here in the US— ReaIity Kid (@ReaIityKid) October 7, 2017
― calzino, Saturday, 7 October 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link
This Paperchase pearl-clutching is all very amusing
Day 1 of the RW Columnist Paperchase anti boycott boycott. Rod Liddle has had to burn all of his tropical fruit scented pens. His hair smells of molten plastic & mango. Tim Montgomerie is suspected of owning a cactus print A5 academic year planner & is hung as a witch.— Then he went 'eurgh it's me really' & stabbed me (@Scriblit) November 21, 2017
― Neil S, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 09:11 (six years ago) link
Quite an amusing New Statesman article yesterday pointing out that Paperchase presumably know their customers and in any case *this is how the free market they usually love so much is supposed to work*. But I suspect most of this is primal fear of more advertisers following suit and their columns/paycheques disappearing.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 09:36 (six years ago) link
the hypocrisy would be breathtaking if I hadn't lived with it for 40 years
― faked potato (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 09:50 (six years ago) link
I'd find this all more amusing if I didn't know its all going to kill the conversational vibe at family Xmas dinner this year.
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 10:05 (six years ago) link
when you reveal your wrapping paper was from Paperchase?
― Neil S, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 10:16 (six years ago) link
when you reveal your wrapping paper is the Daily Mail?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 10:56 (six years ago) link
when you reveal your rapping granny is chasing paper?
― It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 10:59 (six years ago) link
when you reveal paper granny wrapping frozen elsa pregnant spider man?
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 11:05 (six years ago) link
there it is
― It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 11:08 (six years ago) link
fped you all FYI
― Neil S, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 11:10 (six years ago) link
with sellotape and knives
― Mark G, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 11:12 (six years ago) link
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/british-journalism-awards-2017-nick-ferrari-is-journalist-of-the-year-full-list-of-winners/
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 06:45 (six years ago) link
British journalism is in a healthy state I see.
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 10:13 (six years ago) link
the envy of the world
― The Dearth of Stollen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 10:14 (six years ago) link
Coren counts as a right-wing pundit, no? literally can't imagine a less appealing front page splash than this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQ1ogyRXkAE6uHR.jpg
― soref, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 11:08 (six years ago) link
Jfc. Coren's insufferable.
Another one of those "writers" making money over their baby's back.
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 11:40 (six years ago) link
*dad's
― Cardi Acs (imago), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 11:45 (six years ago) link
aye
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 11:47 (six years ago) link
yeah he's the one thing that puts me off marrying Victoria
― The Dearth of Stollen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 11:56 (six years ago) link
He's a troll. That's all he is. On some level he must know it, and I hope it causes him deep, profound and insurmountable displeasure.
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 12:09 (six years ago) link
ha, I always thought he came across as oddly thin-skinned and hurt by criticism for someone whose whole schtick is trolling? I sometimes get the impression that he is someone who genuinely has these thoughts and opinions that he knows are considered beyond the pale and is troubled by this, so he tries to exorcise the anxiety by expressing the thoughts/opinions in a faux-trolly way, but his heart is not really in it - imo Coren doesn't actually enjoys riling Libs a la Rod Liddle or Toby Young, he wants to be liked too much.
― soref, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 12:18 (six years ago) link
giles coren is so london
― ogmor, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 12:45 (six years ago) link
every generation gets the samuel pepys it deserves
― Cardi Acs (imago), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 12:47 (six years ago) link
this is slanderous upon London imo
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 12:49 (six years ago) link
manchester offers ample scope for a reprisal tbf
― Cardi Acs (imago), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 12:51 (six years ago) link
"giles coren is so london" is so manchester
― Cardi Acs (imago), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 12:52 (six years ago) link
nowadays I suppose Samuel Pepys would be regarded as sexual harassment in our politically correct Airstrip One
― The Dearth of Stollen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 12:53 (six years ago) link
lol at the idea that London isn't Ground Zero for this particular type of cunt tho
tru
― Cardi Acs (imago), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 12:54 (six years ago) link
North London tbf
― Blandford Forum, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 13:00 (six years ago) link
where else could forge a giles coren
― ogmor, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 13:01 (six years ago) link
xp very, very tru :D
enjoy wembley btw ;_____;
― Cardi Acs (imago), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 13:02 (six years ago) link
Oxford, where he studied?
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 13:31 (six years ago) link
i'd never have imagined such a paragon of london-awfulness might have gone to oxford
― ogmor, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 15:03 (six years ago) link
Not to be confused with Giles Corey, a defendant at the Salem Witch Trials.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link
The British media is so London. In fact, the UK is so London.
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link
More too London than so London.
'Was I an absolute prince,' he would say, pulling up his breeches with both his hands, as he rose from his arm-chair, 'I would appoint able judges, at every avenue of my metropolis, who should take cognizance of every fool's business who came there;—and if, upon a fair and candid hearing, it appeared not of weight sufficient to leave his own home, and come up, bag and baggage, with his wife and children, farmer's sons, &c. &c. at his backside, they should be all sent back, from constable to constable, like vagrants as they were, to the place of their legal settlements.
― The Dearth of Stollen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link
According to the law at the time, a person who refused to plead could not be tried. To avoid persons cheating justice, the legal remedy for refusing to plead was "peine forte et dure". In this process the prisoner is stripped naked, with a heavy board laid on his body. Then rocks or boulders are laid on the plank of wood. This was the process of being pressed:[10] ...remanded to the prison from whence he came and put into a low dark chamber, and there be laid on his back on the bare floor, naked, unless when decency forbids; that there be placed upon his body as great a weight as he could bear, and more, that he hath no sustenance, save only on the first day, three morsels of the worst bread, and the second day three draughts of standing water, that should be alternately his daily diet till he died, or, till he answered.As a result of his refusal to plead, on September 17, Sheriff George Corwin led Corey to a pit in the open field beside the jail and in accordance with the above process, before the Court and witnesses, stripped Giles of his clothing, laid him on the ground in the pit, and placed boards on his chest. Six men then lifted heavy stones, placing them one by one, on his stomach and chest. Giles Corey did not cry out, let alone make a plea.After two days, Giles was asked three times to plead innocent or guilty to witchcraft. Each time he replied, "More weight." More and more rocks were piled on him, and the Sheriff from time to time would stand on the boulders staring down at Corey's bulging eyes. Robert Calef, who was a witness along with other townsfolk, later said, "In the pressing, Giles Corey's tongue was pressed out of his mouth; the Sheriff, with his cane, forced it in again."[11]Three mouthfuls of bread and water were fed to the old man during his many hours of pain. Finally, Giles Corey cried out "More weight!" and died. Supposedly, just before his death, he cursed Sheriff Corwin and the entire town of Salem.[12] He was 81.
...remanded to the prison from whence he came and put into a low dark chamber, and there be laid on his back on the bare floor, naked, unless when decency forbids; that there be placed upon his body as great a weight as he could bear, and more, that he hath no sustenance, save only on the first day, three morsels of the worst bread, and the second day three draughts of standing water, that should be alternately his daily diet till he died, or, till he answered.
As a result of his refusal to plead, on September 17, Sheriff George Corwin led Corey to a pit in the open field beside the jail and in accordance with the above process, before the Court and witnesses, stripped Giles of his clothing, laid him on the ground in the pit, and placed boards on his chest. Six men then lifted heavy stones, placing them one by one, on his stomach and chest. Giles Corey did not cry out, let alone make a plea.
After two days, Giles was asked three times to plead innocent or guilty to witchcraft. Each time he replied, "More weight." More and more rocks were piled on him, and the Sheriff from time to time would stand on the boulders staring down at Corey's bulging eyes. Robert Calef, who was a witness along with other townsfolk, later said, "In the pressing, Giles Corey's tongue was pressed out of his mouth; the Sheriff, with his cane, forced it in again."[11]
Three mouthfuls of bread and water were fed to the old man during his many hours of pain. Finally, Giles Corey cried out "More weight!" and died. Supposedly, just before his death, he cursed Sheriff Corwin and the entire town of Salem.[12] He was 81.
The realest of England
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link
gonna give that one to the USA tbf
― The Dearth of Stollen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link
't Was British North America iirc but fair
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link
Coren isn't a troll per se, just yet another dude with nothing worthwhile to say* (except perhaps about restaurants) who has nevertheless decided to make a living from opinion journalism.
*Or at least an opinion about everything and insight into nothing.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link
who has nevertheless decided to make a living from opinion journalismassholism.
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link
worthwhile comments about restaurants sounds like a category mistake.
― Monogo doesn't socialise (ledge), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link
I dunno it's good to know which McDonalds's are clean
― The Dearth of Stollen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
i mean say what u like about yelp reviewers but at least they never throw their toys out of the prank because a sub-editor ruined their terrible joke about blowjobs
― straightedge is just volcel for vegans (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
er, out of the pram obv
Was not aware of Liddle's poetry before.
Philip Larkin's mouldering poetic corpse discovered in rancid bin-bag of Rod Liddle's mind, pic.twitter.com/2ptyS6spIw— david wheatley (@nemoloris) December 15, 2017
― woof, Friday, 15 December 2017 12:18 (six years ago) link
https://hoaxteadresearch.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/hh_vogonpoetry.jpg
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Friday, 15 December 2017 12:23 (six years ago) link
Am I a bad person for wanting to backhand Isabel Oakeshott while wearing some rusty wire-wool gloves?
― kim jong deal (suzy), Friday, 15 December 2017 12:24 (six years ago) link
A-hole meets K-hole.
Katie Hopkins is an anesthetic mostly used in veterinarian procedures. She is often referred to as a “horse tranquilizer” Katie should never be taken recreationally as she can induce psychological effects such as psychedelic distortion, psychosis, confusion and even brain death pic.twitter.com/RW80uxssd7— G H Neale (@GHNeale) February 4, 2018
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 4 February 2018 19:41 (six years ago) link
Ketie Hopkins
― kim jong deal (suzy), Sunday, 4 February 2018 19:47 (six years ago) link
Where's my 10%? https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2018/feb/08/a-hole-in-a-k-hole-katie-hopkins-ketamine-adventures
― Dan Worsley, Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:29 (six years ago) link
A man who looks like Bob Geldof after eating 10 packets of lard claims he doesn't find succesful women attractive, more news as we get it:https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/02/theres-a-reason-women-sell-roof-tiles-in-hotpants/
― Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Friday, 23 February 2018 08:46 (six years ago) link
kudos on that URL though
is the spectator just basically Nuts magazine now?
― calzino, Friday, 23 February 2018 08:51 (six years ago) link
he makes his edgelord shtick look so effortful
― smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 February 2018 08:56 (six years ago) link
they can't all be toby young.
― calzino, Friday, 23 February 2018 09:01 (six years ago) link
I was thinking wasn't he one of them regular bores on Grumpy Old Men but wiki says:
"Regular contributors include Jeremy Clarkson, Bob Geldof, John Humphrys, A. A. Gill, Nigel Havers, Tony Hawks, Simon Hoggart, John O'Farrell, Rory McGrath, Bill Nighy, Matthew Parris, John Peel, Will Self, Arthur Smith, Tim Rice, Rick Stein, Tony Slattery, Rick Wakeman, Lemn Sissay, Don Warrington, Des Lynam, Robert Wyllie, Pete Buckley, Gerry Robinson and Kevin I'anson. The narrator is Geoffrey Palmer."
could do with a few more RIP's from that list.
― calzino, Friday, 23 February 2018 09:07 (six years ago) link
Leave Geoffrey Palmer alone, though.
― too notch (stevie), Friday, 23 February 2018 09:23 (six years ago) link
Robert Wyllie, Pete Buckley
momentarily read this as Pete Wylie and didn't really question it
― thirst trap your hare (DJ Mencap), Friday, 23 February 2018 10:59 (six years ago) link
And who are they anyway?
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Friday, 23 February 2018 11:01 (six years ago) link
top google result for robert wyllie is chief of medical operations at a clinic in cleveland, ohio and the top result for pete buckley is an expert in 'financing, leasing, sales and complex structured transactions involving aircraft (fixed wing and rotary), vessels and other transportation assets'
so either the net for grumpy old men was cast much wider than i'd have expected or we may never know who the trv wyllie and buckley were
― NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 February 2018 11:10 (six years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Robert_Crichton_Wyllie.jpg
Robert Crichton Wyllie (October 13, 1798 – October 19, 1865) was a Scottish physician and businessman. He also served two decades as Minister of Foreign Affairs in the Kingdom of Hawaii.
― Maconie Youth (NickB), Friday, 23 February 2018 11:14 (six years ago) link
counts as an old man for sure, looks pretty chipper tho
― NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 February 2018 11:16 (six years ago) link
this was around the time that Ian McCulloch used to appear as a panelist on The Wright Stuff, so Pete Wylie doesn't seem that implausible
― soref, Friday, 23 February 2018 11:17 (six years ago) link
I don't think even the producers of Grumpy Old Men knew wtf Robert Wyllie was
― calzino, Friday, 23 February 2018 11:22 (six years ago) link
When you type "Pete Buckley grumpy..." into GS, "cat" is the first word that comes. So wtf he is, he didn't quite make his bones with that show.
― calzino, Friday, 23 February 2018 11:26 (six years ago) link
classy
(1) With the Spectator publishing an article about how great the Wehrmacht were on D-Day, what else have they been up to ? pic.twitter.com/6zuxRniqIJ— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) May 17, 2018
― Neil S, Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link
how is taki still alive
― martin short's interiors (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link
blood of virgins, 6 bottles of vintage champagne a day
― Neil S, Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link
taki was ahead of the alt-right curve by a good decade tbfttl
― imago, Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link
aye, Werhmacht were a cracking bunch of lads - just don't mention all the civilian massacres and those lovely Stalags they built so captured Red Army could get a sun tan or freeze to death whilst they cannibalised each other!
― calzino, Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link
Taki made A A Gill look like a lefty at The Sunday Times in the 90's.
― calzino, Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link
For my sins I can remember his columns were a mixture of obnoxious macho bravado and name dropping upper class elite ppl, a class act for sure!
― calzino, Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link
The Wehrmacht had the advantage of plenty of time to construct all the defenses they could think of against an amphibious assault, which is considered the most difficult of all military operations to execute. And they failed.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:10 (five years ago) link
some of the brickies working on the Atlantic Wall were getting paid more than doctors and brain surgeons in the Reich, that was probably the only bit of Socialism in NS!
― calzino, Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:24 (five years ago) link
― imago, Thursday, May 17, 2018 7:42 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the cover of Taki's 1991 prison memoir (three months in HM Prison Pentonville for cocaine possession) is like some horrifying prophecy of Milo Yiannopoulos two decades ahead of time
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51TI63K6OuL._SX328_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
― soref, Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:25 (five years ago) link
http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/selectall/2016/05/20/20-drill.w190.h190.2x.jpg
― i am fast and full of teeth. i willl die in a barn fire (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link
Even by Spectator standards, Taki is massively racist.
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link
I can half remember some quote where he is referring to Puerto Ricans as "dusky, squat and ugly" and this was before the brexit-era Times got their special circumstances racist card, this was in the 90's!
― calzino, Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link
xxp lol uncanny!
― Neil S, Friday, 18 May 2018 07:41 (five years ago) link
He's an old-school capital-F Fascist but his magazine was hugely important in laying a lot of the foundations for the McInnes / Spencer alt-right stuff.
Obviously, being rich and eccentric means he gets a pass as a 'character' in the British press.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 18 May 2018 07:59 (five years ago) link
Hugo Rifkind says online 'outrage engine' makes papers swerve difficult subjects to 'avoid enraging parts of their readership'https://t.co/NjlLMMI33c pic.twitter.com/dkoSOpRljw— Press Gazette (@pressgazette) November 22, 2018
― gyac, Thursday, 22 November 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link
This is a good expose on our old friends at Spiked: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/07/us-billionaires-hard-right-britain-spiked-magazine-charles-david-koch-foundation
― Neil S, Friday, 7 December 2018 09:21 (five years ago) link
It's pretty sad that they're not even Trots manqué curdled to misanthropy but just old-fashioned posho somethings-in-the-media grubbing for PR work for Monty fucking Burns
― biliares now living will never buey (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2018 12:37 (five years ago) link
[mark can correct whichever corner of post-Leninism they actually grew out of here]
― biliares now living will never buey (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2018 12:39 (five years ago) link
Monbiot does nice work in exposing their um "selective" reading of Trotsky
― Neil S, Friday, 7 December 2018 12:41 (five years ago) link
I like that he seems to have these mealy-mouthed fuckers squirming
― biliares now living will never buey (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2018 12:44 (five years ago) link
Brendan O'Neill looks like a lovechild Frasier would deny
― Bênoit Balls (stevie), Friday, 7 December 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link
That photo of Frank Furedi in the Guardian article, I lived just off that corridor for a year. It's pretty fucking weird to see it crop up nearly two decades later in an article about an international right-wing conspiracy.
― Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2018 14:46 (five years ago) link
There's a lot more detail here: https://www.desmog.co.uk/2018/12/04/spiked-lm-dark-money-koch-brothers
― Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link
I'd heard of Claire Fox but not Fiana Fox OBE.
― calzino, Friday, 7 December 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
Fiona
― calzino, Friday, 7 December 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link
that map of the LM network seems to be missing some much loved ILM indie-rockers:P
― calzino, Friday, 7 December 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link
LEAVE GAZ ALONE
― I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2018 16:06 (five years ago) link
I think Gaz might to need to look at more lucrative options than becoming a regular Spiked contributor, my cousin has a shit hot wedding band company called Rock My Reception!
― calzino, Friday, 7 December 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link
Which is more lucrative, writing puff pieces for Nazi businessmen or coming third in the Mercury Music Prize every other year?
― I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link
they're a mid-70s offshoot of IS (which underwent many splits at that time: what was left evolved into the swp): the revolutionary communist party then split from the revolutionary communist group* over tactics relating to anti-apartheid (ribald voice from the back: "yes, furedi was pro! etc etc haw haw") -- its organ "living marxism" (so-called bcz everyone else's was declared dead) was active until the mid-90s, when a journalist they libelled during the yugoslav civil war sued it to extinction. they were rebooting at this time as radical libtertarian cyberlefties anyway -- they ran and made a lot of cash from the early internet cafe cyberia -- and (presumably cynically) adapted to harmonise with the tech flavour of libertarianism instead. even in the early 90s the other trot orgs mocked them as a yuppie party
*according to wikipedia, the RCG's paper fight racism! fight imperialism! is still running for nearly 40 years, tho it's a LOOOOONG time since i've seen a copy on sale. rumours that Spiked! is abt to be renamed don't fight racism! don't fight imperialism! are too funny to ignore
― mark s, Friday, 7 December 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link
a couple of them (as students) wrote for me at the wire! but both seem -- via the magick of goggle -- to have evolved into entirely ordinary leftish academics no longer tangled in such garbage
― mark s, Friday, 7 December 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link
Glad somebody had a happy ending
― I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2018 16:38 (five years ago) link
most of that is in monbiot's article now i read it -- this line ("In 1974, the International Socialists split after a dispute over arithmetic in Volume 3 of Das Kapital") is amusing but misleading. all spilts in the IS were abt personality clashes among the leadership, and every single splinter-sect coalesced round a different egomaniac
― mark s, Friday, 7 December 2018 16:41 (five years ago) link
here's the section on the IS/RCG/RCP split in john sullivan's classic 1988 essay on fissiparous UK trots (very dated, the whole thing is still worth reading)*: https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/critiques/sullivan/pub-7rcgrcp.html
*no one was rightwing at this point, tho there were likely a great many mutual accusations to this effect all the same
― mark s, Friday, 7 December 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link
It's no Fools and Horses
― I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link
Looool perfect.
― The Village Defibrillator (Mr Andy M), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link
I feel like this sort of forensic takedown of what Spiked are about and how they function (which I know Monbiot has been doing for a while now) is a better way to deal with them than the approach I see from a lot of leftist commentators on Twitter, where it always seems to be 'Oh no, look at this new horrible thing Brendan O'Neill has written' with 50 retweets - which just gives them what they want I think?
― The Village Defibrillator (Mr Andy M), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:40 (five years ago) link
Of course it does, like when fuckwits kept giving Katie Hopkins the attention she craved
― I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link
This whole thing is so transparent, the endless feedback loop of wankers DESTROYING other wankers. I notice I haven't seen many of my Canary-following friends bigging up Jonathan Pieface lately, but it was obvious from day one what an unfunny useless arsehole he was
― I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
I heard this typically unfunny cunt on R4 last week called Geoff Norcott. His unique schtick was that he's a comedian and a Tory voter like as if ho ho ho what an absolute enigma, a comedian whose politics absolutely suck shit.
― calzino, Friday, 7 December 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link
I'm not sure they need retweets when one of them is on national TV or radio almost literally every day.
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Friday, 7 December 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link
Can't believe Merrick would be so let down by her favourite feminist PM pic.twitter.com/LrgGwIgRjm— Sam ✌️ (@samisam147) December 12, 2018
🙃
These takes are so mad considering there was a fuss about May being Home Sec/Minister for Equalities & Women despite having opposed gay marriage in the past and endorsing splitting up families and detaining people in hellish immigration centres. Not to mention austerity notably hitting women harder. Still, those shoes, eh?
Nb: I have always thought her shoes are terrible.
― gyac, Thursday, 13 December 2018 11:57 (five years ago) link
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p06sbrpd/jonathan-pies-american-pie
― conrad, Thursday, 13 December 2018 12:34 (five years ago) link
This mocku-docu-mentary is Louis Theroux meets Alan Partridge meets the Koch brothers.
― I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 December 2018 12:36 (five years ago) link
happy xmas noodle vague
― conrad, Thursday, 13 December 2018 12:37 (five years ago) link
Rebecca Nicholson in the Guardian is not a fan of the Jonathan Pie special
Partridge is funny because he is pathetic and human; Pie just has a sneering superiority complex. Theroux offers insight because he listens to people; Pie has too many scores to settle to offer an impartial ear.
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2018/dec/13/tv-review-jonathan-pie-american-pie
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 13 December 2018 12:40 (five years ago) link
Are you still struggling to justify voting for Jeremy Corbyn? This should help. Destitute, self-pitying, public school pervert, Toby Young says that a Corbyn government will mean he has to sell his house! pic.twitter.com/Yy9VIEK9Wy— John Spiers (@squeezyjohn) December 13, 2018
― calzino, Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuTW1OqX4AAhKwL.jpg
beautiful.
― calzino, Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link
Stick that on posters the length and breadth of the land - Young's face on the left, this text on the right - Labour landslide.
― It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christ (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link
I knew he was butthurt about losing the education post when he was presenting a R4 program about Character and repeatedly kept mentioning how he was hounded out of a job by the twitter mob. But didn't realise he'd managed to poison all the other wells he was drinking from, apart from the fucking Spectator of course!
― calzino, Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link
I'll say a prayer for Toby (that he ends up homeless and dies on the streets).
― calzino, Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:57 (five years ago) link
God I hate Jimmy Bollix SO MUCH.
Stepping in to defend journalists at the Mail & Sun:
This is predictably getting piled-on (the irony of complaining about abuse and its dangers when you cause frequent abusive pile-ons aside) – but: plenty of journalists who do great, public interest work holding power to account started at newspapers OJ and co don't approve of. https://t.co/nERSyRcy5t— James Ball (@jamesrbuk) January 14, 2019
Personally I'm referring to people who directly write articles whipping up hatred against minorities and women.— Owen Jones🌹 (@OwenJones84) January 14, 2019
OJ offers the above as clarification AND THEN:
Other reasons people can find themselves at such outlets: people’s politics change, people grow up with Tory parents, people come from local news and get offered a secondment to a National their group owns that you’d be mad to then down, etc— James Ball (@jamesrbuk) January 14, 2019
People may then change their view (none of which wd excuse writing the hateful stuff, but as has been noted, many don’t). Or not change their view but do we really hold someone doing casual sports shifts equal to Rod Liddle? And if our bar is that high aren’t readers on the hook?— James Ball (@jamesrbuk) January 14, 2019
He’s such an awful cunt, how does he even have a job?!
― gyac, Monday, 14 January 2019 15:37 (five years ago) link
who wouldn't jump at the chance to earn a living inciting hatred if it meant secondment to a thriving national newspaper?
― moaty, boaty, big and bloaty (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 January 2019 17:24 (five years ago) link
Am I being oversimplistic or are all the people scolding other writers for being choosy about which outlets they write for, straight and white?
― suzy, Monday, 14 January 2019 19:32 (five years ago) link
I don’t think JB is?
― gyac, Monday, 14 January 2019 19:40 (five years ago) link
I’m on a fair few FB groups for journalists/freelancers and many of the members write for Sun/Mail etc and of those, most of them HATE Owen Jones (I think they would all sell their grannies for his profile TBH but I’m sick of them saying he wouldn’t last a week in a newsroom blah blah blah).
― suzy, Monday, 14 January 2019 20:16 (five years ago) link
Yeah that doesn’t surprise me given how openly contemptuous a lot of the higher profile ones are on twitter. And definitely part jealousy but also the politics.
― gyac, Monday, 14 January 2019 20:19 (five years ago) link
Journo groups: GO HADLEY GO, BODY HIMTwitter: Fuck off, Hadley, you’re a TERF
― suzy, Monday, 14 January 2019 22:08 (five years ago) link
Poor old @CampbellClaret, hero of the Iraq War, still can’t cope with the fact that he can no longer tell the BBC what they can and cannot broadcast. The rest of us (and the people of bombable nations) are relieved. Go for a run, Al, you’ve done enough harm. https://t.co/VmnSX4z70S— Peter Hitchens (@ClarkeMicah) February 7, 2019
good retort imo.
― calzino, Thursday, 7 February 2019 08:58 (five years ago) link
Fuck them both.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Thursday, 7 February 2019 15:16 (five years ago) link
yep, they'd both probably argue to the death they have nothing in common but Hitch is just a 1914 time-travel version of the same type of odious twat.
― calzino, Thursday, 7 February 2019 15:39 (five years ago) link
I made the mistake of checking his "satirical" account and it's even worse than I feared
...he says, while saying what he wants (and plugging his book) in a national newspaper pic.twitter.com/qfhdC8wI1B— Emma Hughes (@emmahdhughes) March 7, 2019
― Neil S, Thursday, 7 March 2019 08:59 (five years ago) link
it's quite shrill and witless and I would actually laugh if it was funny. Melts and conservatives need to develop some self-awareness before attempting satire.
― calzino, Thursday, 7 March 2019 09:08 (five years ago) link
(Right thread this time)Isn’t he one of those Sp1k3d cunts?
― gyac, Thursday, 7 March 2019 09:18 (five years ago) link
it's too scattershot, like it's trying to simultaneously parody FBPE liberals and die-hard I-stand-with-Chris-Williamson Corbynistas and pop-intersectionalists when these are all fairly distinct groups?
― soref, Thursday, 7 March 2019 09:22 (five years ago) link
they're all snowflakes tbf
― Mike Skeavee (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 March 2019 09:23 (five years ago) link
"The genius of Titania McGrath | The Spectator"
talk about easily impressed, they must be the types that shit their pants with laughter at dominic holland.
― calzino, Thursday, 7 March 2019 09:24 (five years ago) link
I mean they pay Taki to praise the Wehrmacht and Rod Liddle to write about black people, so this is evidently the height of wit for that crowd.
― gyac, Thursday, 7 March 2019 09:25 (five years ago) link
where's that Prison Paul "conservatives are getting good at comedy and liberals are scared" meme when you need it
― Neil S, Thursday, 7 March 2019 09:31 (five years ago) link
Just spent 10 mins reading the Titania McGrath Twitter feed. There is plenty to be parodied on woke Twitter, yet it never seems to hit the mark, obviously because this guy doesn't want to get it, and neither do his audience.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 7 March 2019 09:32 (five years ago) link
have there been any actually-funny British right wing pundits since Auberon Waugh died?
it's notable how the Spectator manages to have so many 'funny' columnists who are never actually funny (Tanya Gold is funny, but she doesn't seem particularly right wing?)
― soref, Thursday, 7 March 2019 09:47 (five years ago) link
one big difference between Waugh and Rod Liddle/Toby Young/James Delingpole etc is that the latter rhetorically position themselves as being on the side of the masses against the sneering elites where Waugh proudly identified with the sneering elite, I don't think there's a space for someone like Waugh today, that old conservative elite contempt and revulsion for for fast food and pop music and TV etc maybe doesn't exist anymore?
― soref, Thursday, 7 March 2019 09:55 (five years ago) link
JRM though?
― gyac, Thursday, 7 March 2019 09:57 (five years ago) link
his schtick is more of a cutesy affectation of being baffled by pop culture though, I don't think he expresses disgust for it in same way that the old-school types did
― soref, Thursday, 7 March 2019 10:04 (five years ago) link
Always preferred Peter Simple (Michael Wharton) to Auberon Waugh myself, some of Wharton's stuff was staggeringly funny. Their writing careers more or less overlapped and indeed Waugh took over the Peter Simple column after Wharton retired. But yes, Wharton was another sneering conservative elite type.
― the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Thursday, 7 March 2019 10:04 (five years ago) link
Roger Scruton is often old-fashioned-elitist conservative, but is never funny. For examplehttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34801885
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 7 March 2019 10:12 (five years ago) link
jonathan meades is the name you're all kind of searching for, not that he's a pundit, or conservative in any manner that's in vogue
― imago, Thursday, 7 March 2019 10:17 (five years ago) link
he's not a conservative, small or large C, in any sense
― Neil S, Thursday, 7 March 2019 10:20 (five years ago) link
there's an argument that he is sort of an anti-authoritarian small-c conservative insofar as skeptical classic humanism is a conservative position
― imago, Thursday, 7 March 2019 10:22 (five years ago) link
he had a really disappointingly run of the mill dad moan about thicko footballers and their tats in his last tv work. And the jibe about Cage provoked silence.
― calzino, Thursday, 7 March 2019 10:22 (five years ago) link
Nuke Twitter.
Never heard of this but, yes, there seems to be a Spiked connection.
― The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 March 2019 10:25 (five years ago) link
I like this Meades article about Kenneth Clark's Civilisation
The root of the series’s appeal as a continuing model is obvious. To a certain cast of plodding mind, art remains a necessarily important thing, something intrinsically good, improving. And it is even better when rendered popularly “accessible” with stirring music, doting cinematography and big ideas that are easy to follow. Yet, for all its lavish grandiloquence, television of this sort is humble: it knows its place and pays due deference to acknowledged masterpieces in media to which it believes itself to be a subservient upstart. It is essentially reportorial and does not attempt to create its own reality.
― soref, Thursday, 7 March 2019 10:36 (five years ago) link
https://www.newstatesman.com/books/2009/03/series-clark-television
Craig Brown, perhaps?
― the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Thursday, 7 March 2019 10:51 (five years ago) link
peter hitchens is v occasionally funny in a remote elite way, mostly accidentally
― ogmor, Thursday, 7 March 2019 11:11 (five years ago) link
in the sort of manner when you are deep into hard drugs and your dad accuses you of being a glue sniffer.
― calzino, Thursday, 7 March 2019 11:22 (five years ago) link
sorry to post two articles to this thread in a single day but this is another doozyhttps://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/03/would-any-publisher-dare-to-print-lolita-now/
― Neil S, Thursday, 7 March 2019 16:09 (five years ago) link
A million-plus-selling literary novelist of my acquaintance — fêted for penetrating the labile recesses of the female heart — was warned that he should not attempt to write his next novel, set in the first half of the last century, in the voice of a woman.
Got to be Amis or Jacobson right?
― Neil S, Thursday, 7 March 2019 16:11 (five years ago) link
To answer my own question I started — as you do — by typing ‘Lolita’ into Google. An alert flashed up, which said, ‘Warning: child pornography is illegal’.
*Narrator: No alert flashed up*
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 7 March 2019 16:13 (five years ago) link
fêted for penetrating the labile recesses of the female heart
good grief
― ogmor, Thursday, 7 March 2019 16:22 (five years ago) link
spectator.co.uk/2019/08/hitler-should-never-have-been-allowed-to-write-socialist-doctrines-in-prison
― nashwan, Thursday, 7 March 2019 16:34 (five years ago) link
Posting my thoughts about Christchurch & the media mainstreaming hate here so as not to drag the thread off topic.
Just to single out some of the hypocrites on the UK side here:
Matthew “book eater” Goodwin primly criticising Andrew Adonis for a clumsy Julius Caesar reference. MG chaired a debate entitled “is rising ethnic diversity a threat to the west?” and for affronted when challenged on it. All his research seems to come to the conclusion that immigration is bad.
David Aaronovitch attended the above debate and wrote an article last year called “it’s not racist to criticise Islam”, and has a LOT of previous on this. He is tweeting his regret today.
I’m sure the Times will have opinion pieces shared on this soon enough. The Times has a complaint upheld by the press regulator over its story about a girl being adopted by a Muslim foster family - the story was almost entirely false. They publish Melanie Phillips, who was quoted in Anders Brevik’s manifesto.https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/media/2018/09/the-times-muslim-christian-child-foster-care-tower-hamlets-court-ruling-ipso
It would be good if any of these people thought about which views are being legitimised, or how many incidents like this will need to happen for them to reconsider.
― gyac, Friday, 15 March 2019 10:06 (five years ago) link
Yeah, like that's going to happen. Aaronovitch, what a dick.
― Swing Band the Sailor (Tom D.), Friday, 15 March 2019 10:53 (five years ago) link
With some of these people, and their editors, it's part of the fetishisation of "debate" above all other issues, the idea that these ideas SHOULD be in the mainstream press so they can be interrogated and wilt under the glare of rational argument and forensic knowledge. Some of the others are just racists or click-hungry in search of a quick buck.
― Matt DC, Friday, 15 March 2019 11:00 (five years ago) link
Now, obviously there's an existential question for the former group there, because if hatred and bigotry CAN'T be defeated through enlightened rational debate then what is the point of newspaper columnists existing?
― Matt DC, Friday, 15 March 2019 11:01 (five years ago) link
Fanny Dinklesrtein also on the board of a blatantly Islamophopic foundation and gets VERY het up when challenged about it online.
― suzy, Friday, 15 March 2019 11:39 (five years ago) link
They all get annoyed when they're challenged with any of their crap opinions. They think they can just say what they like and everyone will agree because they've thought so long and hard about their wise words, it's like they've never even been on ILX.
― Ned Trifle X, Friday, 15 March 2019 12:32 (five years ago) link
It's also like they've never been to a comprehensive school or anywhere else where their brand of shot rolls downhill to
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 16 March 2019 01:04 (five years ago) link
*Shit.
One positive that might, with caution, be drawn from the anti-Zionism/antisemitism/Labour debacle and now the NZ shooting is like, better awareness about how one (not explicitly or intentionally racist and violent) discourse leads into or enables another (which is) unless some careful conditions are built in. I've been reading the Hirsh article Mordy linked to and it makes the case well. The cultivation of certain atmospheres. Or maybe the sort of RW pundits this thread is about won't learn but will come to seem behind the curve on this.
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 16 March 2019 01:11 (five years ago) link
The Aussie police keep saying how there is no immediate threat of terrorism, without mentioning the continuous and highly public torrent of undisguised racist shit from our own right-wing commentariat. Fuck the lot of them. I’m going to try an avoid whatever Andrew bolt writes about this because it will assuredly provoke me to violence.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 16 March 2019 01:18 (five years ago) link
Call me cynical but I think if there was going to be a teachable moment, either for right-wing pundits or society at large, it would probably have been when 77 mostly-white children got shot by a guy explicitly saying he was inspired by the British press’ take on race and Islam. The problem is that these are not niche views. Almost everyone will reject terrorism, but the idea of ‘white replacement’ and the incompatibility of Muslims with European society is absolutely mainstream. In he U.K., I don’t think Melanie Philips, Douglas Murray, Rod Liddell, etc are in the majority but the minority is sizeable enough to be financially rewarding for them and the people who employ them in perpetuity. Even if it wasn’t, there are enough people like the Gatestone Institute willing to fund it.
― ShariVari, Saturday, 16 March 2019 06:12 (five years ago) link
Newsnight actually gave Generation Identity a platform last night, what the fuck?
― suzy, Saturday, 16 March 2019 06:15 (five years ago) link
Additionally, even if it wasn’t financially viable for the Gatestone Institute, you can still rely on the BBC.
Something has plainly gone very wrong at @BBCNewsnight. This evening—on the day of the racist murder of Muslims in #Christchurch—they gave a platform to racist hate organisation Generation Identity. Would you explain your decision @esmewren? I’ll be making a formal complaint. pic.twitter.com/RdQcfxAeF1— Tom Kibasi (@TomKibasi) March 15, 2019
Xp! Snap.
― ShariVari, Saturday, 16 March 2019 06:16 (five years ago) link
Is it just a ratings thing?
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 16 March 2019 06:41 (five years ago) link
The most charitable reading
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 16 March 2019 06:43 (five years ago) link
Newsnight has a bigger audience on significant news days so I’m minded to say they could do with being more responsible on those broadcasts. It costs them nothing and I can’t see how it’s worth it, publicity-wise, to wind up people who have a problem with normalising the fash. The GI creeps are at Speaker’s Corner most days rubbing up against nutters of all stripes. How difficult is it for production staff to just leave them there?
― suzy, Saturday, 16 March 2019 07:19 (five years ago) link
most nights newsnight struggles to post up a representative voice for the UK’s official opposition... so howtf have they got on a representative for thenppl who advocate the systematic ethnic cleansing of BAME people
and on the same day as christchurch too wth
― PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Saturday, 16 March 2019 07:24 (five years ago) link
has there been any good writing on how the emergent global far right could look to exploit the upcoming european parliamentary elections? this piece was a little unsettling - and I'm thinking about things like bannon touring europe pressing the flesh w various RW figures here, farage's visit to salvini last week etc. it seems like they're getting pretty organised. I'd be interested in reading any pieces that draw historical parallels with, uh, the 1930s too : /https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/brazil-jair-bolsonaro-facebook-elections
and - hopefully not being too parochial about this - but this wider trend is actually one of the reasons I'm v concerned about the way the 'resolution' to brexit is handled. thankfully I think our politicians do understand that if it is not dealt with sensitively and in a fashion which respects democratic principles, the far right feeds on 'betrayal'
― PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Saturday, 16 March 2019 07:35 (five years ago) link
My feeling is that the far right says they’re betrayed whatever the rest of us do or don’t do. I advocate calling out their entitlement issues whenever possible.
― suzy, Saturday, 16 March 2019 07:46 (five years ago) link
This is what the Spectator has published following a massacre of Muslims by a far-right terrorist #notshockinganymore pic.twitter.com/FdTuVfAS7h— Miqdaad Versi (@miqdaad) March 15, 2019
The Spectator still on their Islamophobia isn’t real tip.
― ShariVari, Saturday, 16 March 2019 08:22 (five years ago) link
Let us be very clear, what happened today was a diabolical and methodical ordering of words into a readable structure conveying a messages. it is most certainly not a sentence
― anvil, Saturday, 16 March 2019 09:29 (five years ago) link
wrt Newsnight, I don’t think there is a single cause. Esme Wren came in as Editor after thirteen years at Sky and seems to have intensified it but a lot of this stuff was present when Ian Katz (ex Guardian) was in charge, and probably before that too.
Ratings are one factor, the infamous dedication to faux ‘balance’ another. I think there are definitely people at the BBC who see Nick Griffin’s demolition on Question Time as a pivotal moment in contemporary politics (ignoring the fact it was probably Marmite that did for the BNP in the end) - without taking into account how the far-right has adapted and become more agile.
I don’t think you get to where we are now without a deep hostility to the left, though. Both in the sense of tying the rise of the far-right and Soc Dem politics into a false narrative about extremism, to which the Sensible Centre is a panacea, and in the Nagle-style ‘too much id-pol makes people fascist’ .
― ShariVari, Saturday, 16 March 2019 09:34 (five years ago) link
I don't understand how the Newsnight/BNP story came to be that way it is. I remember the BNP getting a boost, and indeed they got their highest ever proportion of the vote in the election after the broadcast.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Saturday, 16 March 2019 09:55 (five years ago) link
Sunlight IS the best disinfectant. Doesn't stop it also being the best amplifier
― anvil, Saturday, 16 March 2019 10:23 (five years ago) link
I think it's mostly about making what they consider to be sexy, exciting television, if that helps the ratings that is obviously a good thing but I think it's primarily exciting for the programme makers, more exciting than talking to David Gauke again, for example.
― Swing Band the Sailor (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 March 2019 10:26 (five years ago) link
the whole practice of "live television interviews" such as practiced by newsnight is generally reprehensible. they want to come up with "gotcha questions" and put people on the spot and in doing so overestimate their ability to control the medium in the face of practiced and experienced liars
― the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Saturday, 16 March 2019 10:42 (five years ago) link
the daily mirror running with: don't murderous nazi white supremacists make the cutest babies on the cover.
― calzino, Saturday, 16 March 2019 10:48 (five years ago) link
The Mail is running with ‘it was Facebook what done it’.
This Twitter argument between Abi Wilkinson and a bunch of people from LBC is something:
Hi Abi, one of LBC's producers here. James regularly calls out racism and Islamophobia (on and off air) including that of fellow LBC presenters.— Sandra Glab (@glabsandra) March 16, 2019
Racism and Islamophobia are positive things to challenge and its great that one of the presenters we employ calls out the racism and Islamophobia of all the other presenters we employ.
― ShariVari, Saturday, 16 March 2019 10:53 (five years ago) link
― the scientology of mountains (rushomancy),
This is unfathomable to me - the seeming inability to deal with practiced and serial liars, to the point where you are wondering even after the show - do they even know they've been had?
Flipside is the really poor level of some of the people that do go on, a complete inability to deal with even the slightest tough questioning. Its one of the reason i think Left-leaning guests SHOULD go on Fox, its the best practice out there
― anvil, Saturday, 16 March 2019 10:57 (five years ago) link
Or else just keep Barry Gardiner away from any TV studio anywhere.
― Swing Band the Sailor (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 March 2019 11:09 (five years ago) link
― PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Saturday, 16 March 2019 11:19 (five years ago) link
Nick Griffin was out there giving talks twenty years ago about how the arguments needed to be about “culture” and “values”. And it has been for almost that long too.
In the modern day and age it’s engagement that drives numbers that drives profit, and the YouTube sea of recommendations is pulled from the people who spend the most time watching videos - conspiracy theorists and extremists to a man. Capitalism will stoke tensions, amplify bigots and count the profits with a # prayfor hashtag and a tear running down its cheek.
― gyac, Saturday, 16 March 2019 11:19 (five years ago) link
why....... are you hiring islamophobes?
― PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Saturday, 16 March 2019 11:20 (five years ago) link
Refresh the thread zebra :)
― gyac, Saturday, 16 March 2019 11:20 (five years ago) link
oh sorry see SV posted that upthread xps
― PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Saturday, 16 March 2019 11:21 (five years ago) link
extremely here for david aaronovitch getting a doing in tom kibasi’s mentions
Agree. The comparison with the IRA is obviously stupid. And afaik, after major IRA bombings, they weren’t given an unchallenged interview the night of the attacks. Aaronovitch obviously thinks these people have a point and it deserves to be heard.— Tom Kibasi (@TomKibasi) March 16, 2019
― PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Saturday, 16 March 2019 11:29 (five years ago) link
Fucking hell! If I were him I’d be keeping the head down low, but there he goes jumping in with “genocidal racists have a right to free speech too!”
― gyac, Saturday, 16 March 2019 11:32 (five years ago) link
http://flavible.com/politics/map/polls?sid=1542
from 15th
Survation showing LAB with 4 point lead. YouGov has CON with 4 pointlead
― anvil, Saturday, 16 March 2019 12:12 (five years ago) link
oops wrong place
LBC producer admitting they employ racists:
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 March 2019 21:38 (five years ago) link
Refresh the thread xyzebra
― A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Saturday, 16 March 2019 21:43 (five years ago) link
bah it was so good it was worth doing again
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 March 2019 21:52 (five years ago) link
it was worth it for the wins joke
― gyac, Saturday, 16 March 2019 21:56 (five years ago) link
board description imo
― A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Saturday, 16 March 2019 21:57 (five years ago) link
Yep. That's where Tommy Robinson, the EDL the BNP, Column 88, the Aryan Brotherhood, Stormfront get all their ideas and information from - @thetimes. You fucking idiot.— David Aaronovitch (@DAaronovitch) March 17, 2019
DA is not taking the observation that the Times has published some awful stuff well.
― gyac, Sunday, 17 March 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link
― anvil
nah, honestly i find it very fathomable. that sort of belief that if you get someone to go on tv and say the 14 words, you've completely and thoroughly debunked them, because every right-thinking person is just born KNOWING why the 14 words are bad and god forbid you should have to explain it or anything
i don't think anybody needs "practice" arguing with the right. it posits argument as its own undifferentiated good. it isn't. there's nothing to discuss, the preconditions for rational discussion don't exist. i mean, shit, it's gotten to the point where our worldviews are so divergent the right is increasingly not even going to the trouble of misrepresenting us. "you'll never believe what the loony left is saying now - they're saying racism is a bad thing!"
― the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Sunday, 17 March 2019 18:09 (five years ago) link
(xp) Supreme effort of will by Aaronovitch to leave Corbyn off that list.
― Bielsa, Bub (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 March 2019 18:12 (five years ago) link
Also it's rare for anyone to see through a bullshitty thing in one lightbulb instant. Rather you need a steady diet of fairly critical thinking, and an accumulation of knowledge, and a freedom from distractions, which not everyone has
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Sunday, 17 March 2019 22:05 (five years ago) link
Impressive display of professional solidarity from the British press at the moment - with everyone from comment leaders to investigative journalists to beauty / lifestyle correspondents - ‘left’ and right alike - lining up to shout at Owen Jones.
If there is ever a point at which it’s expedient for them to stand up to racism, rather than exculpating their colleagues and employers, the country will be in safe hands.
― ShariVari, Monday, 18 March 2019 08:10 (five years ago) link
What's he done
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Monday, 18 March 2019 08:45 (five years ago) link
Suggested that people who work for newspapers without challenging their racist editorial lines, or work with racist colleagues without publicly repudiating their stories, are complicit in their racism.
― ShariVari, Monday, 18 March 2019 08:50 (five years ago) link
If they can’t understand valid points about racial bias in the media (plus the top-down ways it’s reinforced away from ‘lifestyle’ journalism and within it, too) and the role of ordinary workers (however high-profile these people are, most are only freelance writers) in perpetuating it, they’re just being arseholes to OJ for the sake of impressing their clique. I got piled on in a FB thread after mildly snarking about Jess Phillips’ opportunistic social climb to Spectator parties and a book deal via the method of denigrating Diane Abbott in public, and suddenly I was the villain for suggesting it’s bad to drink champagne in a garden with Taki.
― suzy, Monday, 18 March 2019 08:52 (five years ago) link
I don’t even like OJ but the way his colleagues pile on him & talk about him in public is disgraceful! Plus the way they refer to him as Squealer (an Animal Farm reference) is more than a bit homophobic and suggests they’re hiding behind plausible deniability to have that dig. But no, he’s the real problem.
― gyac, Monday, 18 March 2019 11:12 (five years ago) link
Oh, also, several of them were delightedly tweeting a video of him being called a wanker by a yellow vest - before it emerged that he’d been chased down the street by the same group of protesters who were shouting homophobic abuse at him. Yet him asking the press to hold themselves to any standards is “Trumpean”.
― gyac, Monday, 18 March 2019 11:16 (five years ago) link
Ron Liddle took a day off from the usual race-hate peddling yesterday in the ST for his other pet subject: that made up condition ME and the pathetic malingerers who claim to be afflicted with it. He needs to be put down in most brutally painful fashion rather than OJ (who I think is a complete wazzock as well tbh!).
― calzino, Monday, 18 March 2019 11:19 (five years ago) link
Today: why does Owen Jones talk about the media like it applied to everybody? Saturday: have you seen Janice Turner's fantastic piece about the left?— The Justin Horton Show (@ejhchess) March 18, 2019
― gyac, Monday, 18 March 2019 11:24 (five years ago) link
Exactly. And let’s not forget JT’s husband is Exec Ed of the Sunday Times, so it’s up to him what goes in the paper. BTW, his father was Peter Preston, so I bet he rates himself as ‘liberal’.
― suzy, Monday, 18 March 2019 11:42 (five years ago) link
Urgh
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Monday, 18 March 2019 11:48 (five years ago) link
They forget the whole seeking truth aspect of journalism, eh.
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Monday, 18 March 2019 11:49 (five years ago) link
Fraser Nelson is apparently suffering from false memory syndrome
How absurd. The standard phrase “cultural Marxism” - so old I was taught about it at uni - is labelled an antisemetic conspiracy theory (the power of Wikipedia editing!). So an MP with a Jewish husband is cast as an antisemite. https://t.co/hX0JLCxrft— Fraser Nelson (@FraserNelson) March 27, 2019
― Neil S, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 09:29 (five years ago) link
Can’t believe the guy who publishes Taki might have a blind spot about antisemitism.
― gyac, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 09:32 (five years ago) link
he's being dragged in an entertaining fashion
Curious to know in which module Fraser Nelson encountered the claim that Adorno and Horkheimer were principally concerned with introducing trigger warnings to American universities.— Will Davies (@davies_will) March 27, 2019
― Neil S, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 09:36 (five years ago) link
"so old" wow did Fraser go to uni back in those halcyon days when there was never such a thing as anti-semitism?
― calzino, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 09:37 (five years ago) link
it's also bollocks- "cultural Marxism" is a recent invention of alt-right/4Chan/Q-Anon types used to denigrate anything they deem "PC gone mad", there was no such phrase, though of course anti-Semitic dog-whistling has long been used as a method to discredit Frankfurt School theorists and others
― Neil S, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 09:41 (five years ago) link
thankfully Andrew Lilico is here to sort things out
The term "cultural Marxism" refers to a form of Marxism that is cultural. Saying "You can't combine 1 adjective & 1 noun in their natural way cos an antisemite once combined them" is utterly absurd.— Andrew Lilico (@andrew_lilico) March 27, 2019
― Neil S, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 09:45 (five years ago) link
"a form of Marxism that is cultural" just savouring that particular phrase
― Neil S, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 09:48 (five years ago) link
Lollico absolutely will not settle for someone else having the most stupid take
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 09:52 (five years ago) link
Nuremberg Laws. the name of a Bavarian City with a noun.
― calzino, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 10:02 (five years ago) link
OH GOOD GRIEF. #bbctw pic.twitter.com/sYOUIqrwKw— Andi (@AndiMcLellan) March 29, 2019
Fair warning, this clip will make you want to pour bleach in your eyes and then torch the remaining flesh in the sockets.
― gyac, Friday, 29 March 2019 08:06 (five years ago) link
fp
― tinhead from brookside (||||||||), Friday, 29 March 2019 08:17 (five years ago) link
jesus fucking christ i did 5 seconds abolish the licence fee now
― The Xylems of the Limes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 March 2019 08:20 (five years ago) link
;_;
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 29 March 2019 08:20 (five years ago) link
not with a bang, but with an andrew neil verse
― PPL+AI=NS (imago), Friday, 29 March 2019 08:21 (five years ago) link
There’s something there but he needs to spend more time refining his style if he wants to be a compelling rapper
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 29 March 2019 08:24 (five years ago) link
EVERYBODY BE COOL AND NOBODY GETS FP'd
― The Xylems of the Limes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 March 2019 08:28 (five years ago) link
made it 12 seconds with the sound off
― recreational colonoscopies 4 u (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 29 March 2019 09:39 (five years ago) link
Christ.
― AlanSmithee, Friday, 29 March 2019 10:20 (five years ago) link
not clicking that but I do like the sleazy Non Stop Erotic Cabaret, Soho at night vibes of Brillo Pad's set there
― Neil S, Friday, 29 March 2019 10:22 (five years ago) link
you... like it?
truly the human heart is fathomless
― recreational colonoscopies 4 u (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 29 March 2019 10:23 (five years ago) link
I feel... a strange attraction
― Neil S, Friday, 29 March 2019 10:24 (five years ago) link
3 seconds
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 March 2019 10:28 (five years ago) link
Is a producer deliberately sabotaging this show? Feel like most people involved with it must realise how awful this is, maybe they just hate Andrew Neil, in which case fair enough I suppose.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 29 March 2019 10:34 (five years ago) link
Brillo Pad does not need sabotaging, he can do it very well on his own, thank you very much.
― Don't Go Back to Brockville (Tom D.), Friday, 29 March 2019 10:50 (five years ago) link
Non-Brexit News: I enjoyed writing a book so much that I’ve decided to write full-time. So after eight (!) brilliant years at the @NewStatesman I’m joining @TheAtlantic as a staff writer from July, covering the big shifts in the world, from populism to feminism.— Helen Lewis (@helenlewis) March 29, 2019
― gyac, Friday, 29 March 2019 15:37 (five years ago) link
PLEASE RT: Today I have obtained a Court Order compelling Mumsnet Limited @MumsnetTowers to release the identification details of one of their users. The days of defaming, abusing, And harassing #transgender people on #Mumsnet behind the cloak of anonymity are over, #law pic.twitter.com/702YMg4vts— Stephanie Hayden (@flyinglawyer73) April 8, 2019
The Times has been at the forefront of this shit in the broadsheets - I’m sure Janice Turner shits out another piece each week - and mumsnet has been an absolute shitshow of this for a long time. I’m not exaggerating when I say some of the discourse on there is too fucking awful even by the standards of k*w*farms.
Today the Times posted an absolute disgrace of a story - after them making up so many things the last year I’m not inclined to give them any benefit of the doubt - and this headline was fucking disgraceful. This is section 28 scaremongering again, and it has real consequences for the safety of trans people in the UK.
The Times: Calls to end transgender ‘experiment on children’ #tomorrowspaperstoday pic.twitter.com/tXBPlAtlYS— Helena Lee (@BBCHelenaLee) April 7, 2019
tl;dr fuck the Timea, fuck Mumsnet, I wish only bad things on them.
― gyac, Monday, 8 April 2019 18:10 (five years ago) link
I had a meeting once in a Sure Start centre down the road. On the walls were blue tacked up inspirational quotes from anon from Mumsnet, Jo Cox and Steve Jobs!
― calzino, Monday, 8 April 2019 18:23 (five years ago) link
times is a rag
― ... and the crowd said DESELECT THEM (||||||||), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:23 (five years ago) link
jfc
‘But I need to take something back for family,’ he says, ‘souvenir, something they like. You can give me some money?’ I tell him I really have to go, and I only have a little cash. I reach for my wallet and give him 60. Not enough. He sees I have more. I end up giving him £100. 8— David Aaronovitch (@DAaronovitch) February 7, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 February 2020 21:50 (four years ago) link
I was going to make this joke, but on checking it has obvious already been done, so here it is
People might laugh at this but they are wilfully ignoring the persuasive ability of the wallet inspector when he (or indeed she) looks you dead in the eye and says; "wallet, please". https://t.co/Tl5dgzWAn0— Dr Robert 'Rob' Zands PhD (@DrRobertZands) February 7, 2020
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 7 February 2020 21:54 (four years ago) link
BRB, going to Primark then London
― Todd Phillips, party auteur (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 February 2020 21:55 (four years ago) link
the fact that he doesn't know how to thread makes this even better. what a dafty
― frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Friday, 7 February 2020 22:01 (four years ago) link
Amazing how David views every utterance of a Labour MP with a gimlet eye, but falls for an obvious fucking scam like it’s his first day in town?!?!
― hyds (gyac), Friday, 7 February 2020 22:02 (four years ago) link
Oh my fucking God
I really don't think I'll ever get over seeing David Aaronovitch ask Twitter user LordMohnOfJann for technical support in response to being called a "credulous dickhead", fantastic thread https://t.co/9zC0RFFAdh— Daniel (@Unelectable_bot) February 7, 2020
― hyds (gyac), Friday, 7 February 2020 22:05 (four years ago) link
imagine taking advice of somebody who has mortally insulted you!
― calzino, Friday, 7 February 2020 22:11 (four years ago) link
― Fizzles, Friday, 7 February 2020 22:15 (four years ago) link
As an editor who has worked on several British newspapers, I have been caught in an elaborate street scam causing me to publish articles by a man calling himself 'David Aaronovitch' for the past 30 years— Rosewood Shoehorn (@apiarism) February 7, 2020
― Todd Phillips, party auteur (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 February 2020 10:23 (four years ago) link
good to see that aaronovitch has learned his lesson from his support of the iraq war and is now much more careful about not being easily hoodwinked by the thinnest veneer of obvious bullshit
― Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 8 February 2020 12:44 (four years ago) link
lol look at these google results i just got, the evolution of agalaxy brain in actionhttps://i.imgur.com/DmYZrgx.jpg
― Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 8 February 2020 12:48 (four years ago) link
Can’t believe that I’m so behind in reading the Express that I missed this article, when one of the columnists of a national newspaper that regularly moans about snowflakes used *an entire page* to throw a complete shit-fit about not getting her coffee served warm enough pic.twitter.com/w1OfMsUnTt— Pointless Letters (@pointlesslettrs) March 22, 2020
from that distant country that was February 2020!
― calzino, Sunday, 22 March 2020 12:16 (four years ago) link
Say what you like about British right-wing pundits but we've now got one running the country.
― Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Sunday, 22 March 2020 12:19 (four years ago) link
would be happy to see carole malone gasping for air tbh
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Sunday, 22 March 2020 16:26 (four years ago) link
i think one of her recent pieces was along the lines of: phew, thank god Corbyn isn't PM during this time of national crisis and .. blah blah.. I don't think it is controversial to say Corbyn has a good record of putting people before GDP.
― calzino, Sunday, 22 March 2020 16:33 (four years ago) link
She is an especially vile specimen.
― Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Sunday, 22 March 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link
The bar is sinking rapidly through the earth’s course and making good time for the core.https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUQoU4HXsAEin1S?format=jpg&name=large
― extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Sunday, 29 March 2020 08:23 (four years ago) link
There's a wry amusement in predicting when these clowns will come down with the virus.
― i was joking about the cat soup thing (Matt #2), Sunday, 29 March 2020 08:29 (four years ago) link
I can never parse Hodges, is he pro-Covid now?
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Sunday, 29 March 2020 19:20 (four years ago) link
I mean also fuck clicking on a Mail link
Checking up on Hodges and fell into infinite contempt vortex - who is worse, SKinnock or the SWP??
Hello @SKinnock we know celebrating your Dad’s birthday is a lovely thing to do, however this is not essential travel. We all have our part to play in this, we urge you to comply with @GOVUK restrictions, they are in place to keep us all safe. Thank you. ^cy— South Wales Police | #StayHomeSaveLives (@swpolice) March 29, 2020
― Stevie T, Sunday, 29 March 2020 19:28 (four years ago) link
Fools cheering for their own imprisonment? What does that mean?
― Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Sunday, 29 March 2020 19:30 (four years ago) link
much as i despise Skinnock, that's just the pigs throwing their weight around again afaict
― Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 March 2020 20:52 (four years ago) link
World Cup of Stupid Centrist Hacks is getting tense now btw
― Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 March 2020 21:09 (four years ago) link
Can’t find the daily mail thread but St BoJo was infected but the perfidious EU
The Mail on Sunday has *2 double page splashes* deflecting blame for the coronavirus onto foreigners and stirring up xenophobia.Target 1: the EU.Target 2: China.The reality is, Boris Johnson bungled this crisis very, very badly. He zigged when the rest of the world zagged. pic.twitter.com/4zcTd5wGPy— Edwin Hayward 🦄 🗡, 🇬🇧 🔜 🇪🇺 (@uk_domain_names) March 29, 2020
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 29 March 2020 21:13 (four years ago) link
xp I am looking at this rn and group three has me sweating like a mod opening a thread where someone just slagged off the filth
― extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Sunday, 29 March 2020 21:50 (four years ago) link
Most of the groups have been tough as hell, I think it's the top 2 from each plus the 4 highest third places for the knockouts tho. Glinner was a pretty easy vote tbh
― Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 March 2020 22:35 (four years ago) link
WORLD CUP OF STUPID CENTRIST HACKS - THE GRAND FINAL— World Cup of Stupid Centrist Hacks (@centristhacks) April 3, 2020
a classic final
― Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 April 2020 00:01 (four years ago) link
52/48 LMAO
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 5 April 2020 00:03 (four years ago) link
expecting O'Brien to lodge a legal challenge
― Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 April 2020 00:09 (four years ago) link
Pearson's grift going from talking about fancy shit with Tom Paulin to chatting about clapping with some fash weirdo in a basement is pretty much the perfect metaphor for the UK media's descent pic.twitter.com/ASPyDeetaR— I Am Damo Godzuki ⬛🔴 (@b11ckchps) April 7, 2020
― extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 20:39 (four years ago) link
Who uses "so much for the tolerant left" unironically in 2020?
― Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 21:15 (four years ago) link
Paul Watson
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 21:17 (four years ago) link
I bet he also says "Sheeple"
Allison Pearson is the dictionary definition of a failure in every respect of her life.
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 07:52 (four years ago) link
Like, even her bestselling novel is overshadowed by the fact she didn't deliver the follow-up and was sued by her publisher.
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 07:54 (four years ago) link
Fuck you, Sarah Vine. pic.twitter.com/0alNDSVMeD— Mic Wright (@brokenbottleboy) April 8, 2020
― extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 10:57 (four years ago) link
fuck sake
― bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 10:59 (four years ago) link
but he used to play rugby at school don't you know?
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 11:07 (four years ago) link
this shambling hulk of a man who sweats butter and cums foie gras is in the peak of good health!
― bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 11:09 (four years ago) link
I am bouncing, Bordeaux-loving; you're a fat drunk.
― fetter, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 11:12 (four years ago) link
I'll be the judge here of what "silenced" really means and all I can see is a cowardly flop sweat, swinging the lead because he's completely fucked his job and literally trying to steal oxygen.
― calzino, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 11:16 (four years ago) link
cheers for new DN sarah
― a slobbering sombrero moment (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 11:22 (four years ago) link
Come now, a fat drunk won the war single handedly for Britain, these times call for another fat drunk to totter to the nation's rescue.
― Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 11:23 (four years ago) link
yeah but one was a fat self-aggrandizing racist drunk whereas the other is
― a slobbering sombrero moment (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 11:26 (four years ago) link
all rw columnists are engaging in gross fanfic at this point
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 11:37 (four years ago) link
This rw cumfest is the true apocalypse
― Hey, let me drunkenly animate yr boats in about 25 to 60 days! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 11:38 (four years ago) link
isn't gove supposed to have the covid too or is that just something i dreamt?
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 11:57 (four years ago) link
self-isolating because ‘someone’ in his household has it, no symptoms for our boy just yet
― bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 11:59 (four years ago) link
Virus hasn't yet spread to wood-based life forms
― la légende d'beer (Matt #2), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 12:01 (four years ago) link
I hope we don't have an inquiry when this is over. If there are lessons to be learned, fine; but if there is just blame to be spread, forget it— John Rentoul (@JohnRentoul) April 7, 2020
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 12:03 (four years ago) link
first time in his afterlife that Rentoul's got no interest in where the bodies are buried
― a slobbering sombrero moment (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 12:09 (four years ago) link
More from the interesting dissenter Dr John Lee : 'Is there any evidence [the shutdown] is doing any good at all?'https://t.co/GWWJPs8ifv— Peter Hitchens (@ClarkeMicah) April 17, 2020
go lick some handrails on the circle line you fucking crank!
― calzino, Friday, 17 April 2020 20:48 (four years ago) link
Fuck him for talking to Spiked but what he says is pretty measured I think
― clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 April 2020 20:53 (four years ago) link
I disagree very strongly!
― calzino, Friday, 17 April 2020 20:59 (four years ago) link
I mean he's basically been saying we shouldn't jeopardise the economy at the expense of preventing thousands of people dying basically isn't it?
― calzino, Friday, 17 April 2020 21:04 (four years ago) link
But I'm getting this from his tweets not giving clicks or precious time to his tedious TLDR versions.
― calzino, Friday, 17 April 2020 21:05 (four years ago) link
No, as I said it's quite measured even if that's not want Spiked or it's retweeters want. He was saying there's a balance between how effective the lockdown is at slowing the spread and the health and social problems, as well as economic, that it causes. I think erring on the side of the lockdown is almost inevitable but I don't think he's wrong to say that nothing is very clearly evidenced yet.
― clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 April 2020 21:10 (four years ago) link
well I bet that cunt won't be in a rush get back on the tube despite his rhetoric!
― calzino, Friday, 17 April 2020 21:11 (four years ago) link
Well yeah the health and social problems related to the lockdown is probably underrated, but don't forget Hitch is pro capital punishment despite him being the only right wing columnist who wasn't a complete cunt on Grenfell. I think the economic problems this is causing won't be solved by bringing everyone back to work, having a proper LOTO challenging the govt on UC might at least add some pressure though.
― calzino, Friday, 17 April 2020 21:37 (four years ago) link
that ex-doctor might turn out to be a total crank but i didn't disagree with the bit where he implied the great british public can only process one thought at a time
― clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 April 2020 21:41 (four years ago) link
get brexit done!
― calzino, Friday, 17 April 2020 21:43 (four years ago) link
It’s a message from that foul feathered felon the Penguin! What avian atrocities could he be planning now? pic.twitter.com/9zSAJss8Op— Ivan Kirby (@hellothisisivan) April 25, 2020
if you thought Kinnock was a full-kit wanker for standing up at home during PMQs just check out the state of Hitchens during a Cambridge Union Zoom debate!
― calzino, Saturday, 25 April 2020 09:07 (three years ago) link
BREAKING: Katie Hopkins permanently banned from Twitter, social media firm confirms https://t.co/6eauTledOT— HuffPost UK (@HuffPostUK) June 19, 2020
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Friday, 19 June 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link
can donald j trump be far behind
― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 19 June 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link
(yes)
― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 19 June 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link
Only one thing for it, she'll have to join ILX.
― Rapsputin (Tom D.), Friday, 19 June 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link
I've already been here in disguise. Uh wait.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 June 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link
love to see it
if you want to know how katie hopkins going to parler is going - someone registered her username, got verified by mistake and has been scamming credulous fascists into giving them money pic.twitter.com/NU3V2WZvIq— jonathan nunn (@demarionunn) June 21, 2020
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 21 June 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link
Here you are @L538C . My gas mask and I aboard the Paddington train, obeying the rules and mocking them at the same time. pic.twitter.com/GJ8Hjhfbzt— Peter Hitchens (@ClarkeMicah) June 27, 2020
― calzino, Saturday, 27 June 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link
career descriptions
― hotwire my scampo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 June 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link
I tried to explain the anti-mask thing to a couple of Japanese people, they didn't get it and neither did I. Is it ego or something? I dimly recall similar controversies when the seatbelt and helmet laws came in, of a "no-one's going to tell ME what to do!" nature.
― the bournemouth supremacy (Matt #2), Saturday, 27 June 2020 14:52 (three years ago) link
there was a video yesterday of furious people making anti-mask speeches, think it was in San Francisco, you wouldn't guess with the sound off that most of them were raving loons, like you might see them in public and wouldn't have a clue until they ripped your mask off and called you a commie.
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 27 June 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link
They should have made Keep Calm and Carry On masks, Union Jack masks, the queen masks, Brexit masks. Negligent not to have thought this through, even if only makes some difference
― anvil, Saturday, 27 June 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link
just an extension of the right-wing ‘why should MY taxes pay for YOUR benefits’ except it’s ‘why should MY mask keep YOU safe at the expense of FOGGED GLASSES’
― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 27 June 2020 15:04 (three years ago) link
I really think's it's more down to the government not insisting that people should wear masks.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 June 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link
Or even just advising that people do.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 June 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link
it is totally down to the government but on the other hand a lot of people are dicks
― i have no scampo and i must scream (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 June 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link
Farmer’s market today: customer not wearing mask complained that customer wearing mask was too close to her. Commiserated with mask-wearer on the entitlement of thinking the masked person was the problem here!
― santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 27 June 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
It’s funny that clip doing the rounds & everyone laughing at that woman who’s like “I don’t wear a mask for the same reason I don’t wear underwear” but like fringe lunatics in the states = the entire fucking UK as far as this issue goes. Pretty much nobody is wearing them here
― covid coronenberg (wins), Saturday, 27 June 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link
Tom otm basically
― covid coronenberg (wins), Saturday, 27 June 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link
O_O
"Slavery was not genocide, otherwise there wouldn't be so many damn blacks in Africa or in Britain would there?"David Starkey, one of the most widely known popular 'historians' in the UK who has been a regular fixture on TV and other media for decades. pic.twitter.com/gVeodJakTW— Louis (@Louis_Allday) July 2, 2020
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Thursday, 2 July 2020 12:59 (three years ago) link
is that an old clip that i missed the first time or is this brand new hatefulness?
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link
with a few honourable exceptions who do good work, almost the whole UK history dept needs executing.
― calzino, Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link
that is a whole new level of abhorence though, jfc
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:07 (three years ago) link
I bet this cunt has got a few David Irving signed editions on his dusty bookshelf.
― calzino, Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link
hang on does that mean the Holocaust wasn't genocide because there are still plenty of Jewish people?
― Committee of Public Scampi (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:11 (three years ago) link
i suspect this is an old clip btw
― Committee of Public Scampi (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link
Reasoned was only launched in 2020.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:19 (three years ago) link
It couldn't have been from that genteel era before the culture war when the London Olympics brought the nation together...
― calzino, Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:21 (three years ago) link
seems to be from an interview that was only put up on youtube on 30 june 2020
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:24 (three years ago) link
he's got form and i didn't see it trending anywhere much, fair enough tho
― Committee of Public Scampi (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:25 (three years ago) link
guess it's pretty lockdown vibey
More like fuhrer bunker mentality amirite
― calzino, Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link
So tempted to watch some of these Reasoned vids. Finally find out how lefties dominates the medias.
― nashwan, Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:33 (three years ago) link
Fun to consider that when the MI5 files about Darren Grimes are unsealed in thirty years time he'll still just be 44.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link
Accidentally hilarious, this one pic.twitter.com/HOw4L8S1KT— Dawn “Join A Union” Foster (@DawnHFoster) July 2, 2020
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Thursday, 2 July 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link
feel bad for mocking a twelve year old but fucking hell, what a wanker
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Thursday, 2 July 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link
A chilling vision of "them" coming for the racists
― Committee of Public Scampi (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link
The Starkey clip is new, I know this because I sometimes troll Grimesy on Twitter. Even for a pompous racist idiot it's astoundingly pompous, ridiculously racist and really unbelievably fucking stupid.
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link
Who is Grimesy?g
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link
musky’s wifey
― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link
tom he's this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_Grimes
how weird that a lib dem turned into a facilitator for the libertarian right
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:30 (three years ago) link
Oh right, that little twat.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:31 (three years ago) link
Thank God for Twitter or else we might never have heard of him.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link
Lol Sajid Javid has condemned Starkey's racism on that clip. Be interesting to see whether Starkey ever appears on mainstream TV again.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link
His phone will be ringing off the hook as we speak.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link
I am suspicious of Darren Grimes because he is *so* profoundly thick (and will slip up and be banned from Twitter in a couple of months at the current rate), there is absolutely some dirty money behind him, he lacks the charisma and nous of even Milo and yet still seems to be wildly successful in his cesspool of a world.
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:46 (three years ago) link
xp still got his fans at the bbc:
Tell him I love him, by all means.— Neil Oliver (@thecoastguy) June 29, 2020
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link
He lets the mask slip even more earlier in the interview https://t.co/c4RIkfOMWn https://t.co/ICbXFfnPoE— Seun (@Seunspeakss) July 2, 2020
― Number None, Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link
What mask?
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:50 (three years ago) link
Jesus
― Committee of Public Scampi (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link
what the fuck
― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link
absolutely poisonous cunt. shouldn't have bothered with the statutes, should just throw this guys house in the sea, brick by brick
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link
shame:
Statement on Dr David Starkey: pic.twitter.com/aSAnFxm5Ey— Fitzwilliam College (@FitzwilliamColl) July 2, 2020
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Thursday, 2 July 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link
he's been saying racist things for ages, they have already dragged their feet on this, but good all the same.
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 July 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link
Grimesy was right, they're coming for the racists now >:(
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link
I said before yeah he has form, the comment on BLM people and Africa is some next level racist-on-several-levels fuckery tho
― Committee of Public Scampi (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 July 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link
The stupidity would be unbecoming of an academic, never mind the poisonous caliper-wielding racism. I'm sure he won't lose sleep over being a martyr for fascists tho.
― Committee of Public Scampi (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 July 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link
Grimesey is rattled.
On the @ReasonedUK interview I conducted with Dr David Starkey: pic.twitter.com/zF1WzyiFWI— Darren Grimes (@darrengrimes_) July 2, 2020
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link
Oh Grimesypaws
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link
First I interviewed the statues and they said nothing because they were statues
Then I interviewed the racists and I said nothing because I was too busy nodding along to their awful opinions
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link
Darren immediately after the interview:
And still saw Starkey as a "hero" *after the event*, so totally switched off and unprofessional and should be ignored pic.twitter.com/qjaxbq8SVz— Patrick Connor 🐟 (@PatriConnor13) July 2, 2020
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link
Whoa I mean I knew Neil Oliver was a first class cunt but.. he's really a first class cunt isn't he
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 July 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link
yup, British nationalist shithead (also not qualified to be some sort of history expert on telly, has an MA in Archaeology, not an academic etc.)
― Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 2 July 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link
Basically a glorified navvy.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link
History? I can do do that.. gizza bbc job!
― calzino, Thursday, 2 July 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link
I presume if Mr Oliver was a plasterer he'd be boasting he could do a full safety inspection on Yr boiler and do a first class mechanical install because who needs experts eh?
― calzino, Thursday, 2 July 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link
I somewhat enjoyed his Coast series but I feel v v icky now
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 July 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link
He is quite good at standing on cliffs looking all windswept.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link
It's the hair, I'm sure.
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 July 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link
He is an absolute preening clown, I couldn't watch him even before he started championing the people's racism
― Committee of Public Scampi (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 July 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link
Nobody wants to to see a member of the bald community looking windswept, not unless they are wearing a comedy syrup that gets blown off their head. I accept that, but refuse to watch 99% of these mediocre bbc cunts.
― calzino, Thursday, 2 July 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link
I see now he hails *GREAT* Britian, y'know the one where everyone outside the ruling class was oppressed and worth nothing. He wants to go back to simpler, more racist times.
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 July 2020 20:03 (three years ago) link
https://www.change.org/p/all-anti-racists-revoke-david-starkey-s-fellowship-to-the-royal-historical-society/psf/promote_or_share?guest=existing&short_display_name=jason&recruiter=625654&source_location=react-fe
it takes 10 seconds to sign this fucker!
― calzino, Thursday, 2 July 2020 23:30 (three years ago) link
And a lifetime of emails from that shitty website
― Committee of Public Scampi (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 July 2020 23:34 (three years ago) link
my email is fucked anyway and am used to searching through the 99% garbage in it that one time a month i actually need it. i thought this was normal!
― calzino, Thursday, 2 July 2020 23:36 (three years ago) link
Lol yeah truth
― Committee of Public Scampi (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 July 2020 23:37 (three years ago) link
Change.org is a right grift tho
― Committee of Public Scampi (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 July 2020 23:38 (three years ago) link
I'll look into setting up a panel to look into the practises of change.org as long as you vote for me!
― calzino, Thursday, 2 July 2020 23:42 (three years ago) link
Been a big week for Murdoch lackeys embarrassing themselves answering questions they could have ignored pic.twitter.com/rgdKxalG2t— bread and poses (@breadandposes) November 19, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 November 2020 09:37 (three years ago) link
Yes, they're obviously paying close attention.
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 19 November 2020 09:41 (three years ago) link
maybe there is hope for Kieth yet, does she radicalise reconstructed tory-twat ex-human rights lawyers as well?
― calzino, Thursday, 19 November 2020 09:46 (three years ago) link
this is usually the part where I wake up pic.twitter.com/z4Scz6UhBZ— Will Wiles (@WillWiles) November 27, 2020
― Neil S, Friday, 27 November 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link
apparently old Rodge did a lot of wonderful things for eastern european dissidents, i mean they were white and hated communism so why not?
― Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 November 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link
Applebaum said he sent them lots of books which they were deprived of in the cold war era, lots of HIS books of course lol. She blocked me for suggesting they were using them as bog roll
― calzino, Friday, 27 November 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link
GETTING OPPRESSED STOP SEND ARISTOTLE STOP
― Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 November 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link
the nauseating spectacle of Scrutes being awarded the Hungarian Order of Merit by Orban is still fresh in the memory
― Neil S, Friday, 27 November 2020 14:26 (three years ago) link
looking back at that pic I think he'd already died a few months before!
― calzino, Friday, 27 November 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link
@AyoCaesar Can you please remind me of the age of the Prophet Mohammad's first wife? Thank you in anticipation! https://t.co/D7h4aQMuzH— Julie Burchill (@BoozeAndFagz) December 13, 2020
looks like Julie Burchill is a bit worried everyone has forgotten she exists today or has started a bit too early on the booze and fagz. For context this Islamophobic reply is in defence of a 2012 Rod Liddle Spectator piece where he said he'd never become a teacher because he wouldn't trust himself to not to try and fuck some children.
― calzino, Sunday, 13 December 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link
The line is "I don't think I'd have dabbled much below year 10" which implies he would have gone at least to year 9, which is 13-14 year-old children he would have been unable to stop himself abusing.
― Gary Sambrook eats substantial meals (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 13 December 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link
toby young vibes
― nxd, Sunday, 13 December 2020 21:46 (three years ago) link
...and Burchill can't even get her racism right
40 years old. Khadijah was a widow, educated, and a successful merchant when she married, ya donkey.— Ash Sarkar (@AyoCaesar) December 13, 2020
― Gary Sambrook eats substantial meals (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 13 December 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link
I can't believe when I was young and impressionable, lol my early 20's - I used to think she was pretty sharp and witty at times!
― calzino, Sunday, 13 December 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link
I can even remember her having a real violent dig at Hunter Davies (? I think) for writing some dodgy as fuck paedo normalising copy in one of the broadsheets in the mid 90's, but the memory is bit hazy tbh.
― calzino, Sunday, 13 December 2020 21:56 (three years ago) link
she had an anti-John Peel column when he died based on the fact that he had a "sexy schoolgirl" photo contest or sth in the 70s, and this is like the same thing but much worse?
― Gary Sambrook eats substantial meals (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 13 December 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link
well maybe she rationalises by: it's just a bit of a laugh in that particular case. God knows, you'd have to be some kind of a sociopath to become a female Liddle defender. I mean he's a violent wife-beater for a start.
― calzino, Sunday, 13 December 2020 22:09 (three years ago) link
(xp) Yes, she was always having a pop at Peel for that one.
― Godless Tiny Tim (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 December 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link
St John should have been called out a hell of a lot more than he was but Burchill is the worst possible messenger
― Left, Sunday, 13 December 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link
JB is a real piece of work.
when i say burchill wrote the book on philosemitism, i really mean it pic.twitter.com/ZC5bDoYbE0— michael (@Sisyphusa) December 13, 2020
― scampostiltskin (gyac), Sunday, 13 December 2020 23:37 (three years ago) link
this is just antisemitism with extra steps
― Left, Monday, 14 December 2020 01:01 (three years ago) link
Big big menopausal woman with the voice of a bride of Chucky doll on helium. Allow it please.— The Immaculate Judeception (@judeinlondon2) December 13, 2020
lol jude has been pretty ruthless on her tonight!
― calzino, Monday, 14 December 2020 01:57 (three years ago) link
wasn't she in some massive, stupid, indefensible row with her local Rabbi, accusing her of not being properly jewish enough, etc?
― Change Display Name: (stevie), Monday, 14 December 2020 09:00 (three years ago) link
From a review of Julie's play about brexit:"Meanwhile, on press night, Rod Liddle was in the audience, braying loudly every time the Brexiteers scored a so-called point. Awful to witness, mistaking bullish tribalism for legitimate feeling, and with no interest in examining uncomfortable facts on both sides, at least in People Like Us this messy, polarising Brexit has the play it deserves."https://www.metro.news/messy-and-inept-julie-burchills-brexit-play-is-just-like-the-real-thing/1260295/
― Gary Sambrook eats substantial meals (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 December 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link
Her Twitter account's gone now
― Change Display Name: (stevie), Monday, 14 December 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link
More cancel culture gone mad
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link
_this is just antisemitism with extra steps_wasn't she in some massive, stupid, indefensible row with her local Rabbi, accusing her of not being properly jewish enough, etc?
― scampostiltskin (gyac), Monday, 14 December 2020 13:38 (three years ago) link
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BlTZyHV0kAY/hqdefault.jpg
― Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Monday, 14 December 2020 13:43 (three years ago) link
Reading her Twitter feed this morning I did think "yeah, she won't be on here long" but wasn't expecting it to be deleted a couple of hours later. I reported a very nasty anti-bisexual post she put up a few days ago which seems to have gone unnoticed.
― Gary Sambrook eats substantial meals (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 December 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link
i mean self-hatred blah blah etc -- plus she's weaponised identity as cover for bigotry all her life -- but htf is she not openly and self-declaredly bisexual herself?
― mark s, Monday, 14 December 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link
She wrote a TV series about it! I do not get what she is about besides giggling and throwing poo, and she can't even seem to do that right these days.
― Gary Sambrook eats substantial meals (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 December 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link
She had a quite a high profile affair with Charlotte Raven, wasnt it? When she was married to the American who also wrote for the Times iirc
― calzino, Monday, 14 December 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link
From wikipedia
She wrote of the joys of having a "toyboy" in her Times "Weekend Review" column. Fellow NME journalist/author Paul Wellings wrote about their friendship in his book I'm A Journalist...Get Me Out of Here. She has written about her lesbian relationships, and declared that "I would never describe myself as 'heterosexual', 'straight' or anything else. Especially not 'bisexual' (it sounds like a sort of communal vehicle missing a mudguard). I like 'spontaneous' as a sexual description".In 2009 she said that she was only attracted to girls in their 20s, and since she was now nearly 50, "I really don't want to be an old perv. So best leave it".
― Gary Sambrook eats substantial meals (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 December 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link
quite staggering how a career in broadsheet media has basically turned her into a middle-aged man
― imago, Monday, 14 December 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link
How to get ahead in Fleet Street.
― Godless Tiny Tim (Tom D.), Monday, 14 December 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link
― scampostiltskin (gyac), Monday, 14 December 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link
seems legit
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link
a middle-aged man with a certain broadsheet-columnist cachet
― imago, Monday, 14 December 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link
cocaine and ressentiment
― imago, Monday, 14 December 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link
that's how i roll
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link
wd read noodle vague's jeans-wearing thoughts on the culture wars
― imago, Monday, 14 December 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link
i am too old for blue jeans, that's about as much as i know
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link
tho i wonder if it's the jeans per se or the jeans/tucked-in shirt combo that reeks
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link
have another line and think about what you've just said
― imago, Monday, 14 December 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link
The latter definitely, there are jeans for everyone
― scampostiltskin (gyac), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link
i've not been mad about blue jeans for a long time tbf, prefer other colours
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link
for the last 20 odd years I've wore little else other than .. ahem.. relaxed fit, black 501s, for the last decade usually 2nd hand from e-bay. The last ones I ordered they bloody well sent me w34 l32. I angrily messaged them: I wouldn't have even fitted into those 15 years ago (or 35 years ago if my name was Rod Liddle)
― calzino, Monday, 14 December 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link
me neither calz, but yeah i'd go with black
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link
Black fades so quickly though.
― Godless Tiny Tim (Tom D.), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link
til things get brighter i'm the man in grey
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link
this is the look to avoid
https://media.apnarm.net.au/media/images/2018/12/14/imagev12c0cf0f7bcafa64f7dd53af2d94ea542-dld8iab9bh7nye2hgr2_t1880.jpg
― Left, Monday, 14 December 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link
yeah that's been implicit
― imago, Monday, 14 December 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link
that's the spectre that haunts my age yes
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link
I've got a shirt like that too :(
― Godless Tiny Tim (Tom D.), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link
I have never wore a suit in my life, not even for court appearances or funerals. But I don't do leather jackets either. I remember once seeing Clive Anderson wearing a leather jacket and shades and thinking If I ever looked like that cunt I'd kill myself lol!
― calzino, Monday, 14 December 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link
I wear jeans more or less daily. It's shorts that are to be avoided once one passes the age of...let's be extremely generous and say 25.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link
Damn my legs are the only part of me that is ripped, lol!
― calzino, Monday, 14 December 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link
shorts are comfortable sometimes tho and tbf i'm not a fashion maven, only thinking about what i feel more or less of a twat in
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link
I avoid shorts mainly because of a fear of getting bitten by a tick.
― calzino, Monday, 14 December 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link
Left's photo reminds me there was a v mean-funny tumblr called "jeans and shoes" (or "jeans and sheuxs" or something)
― loose Orwellian mobs (rob), Monday, 14 December 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link
xp
oh yeah wouldn't wear them anywhere where that's a possibility
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link
I think my ego has been so thoroughly reduced in the last decade I've barely even got a conception of sartorial embarrassment any more. I'm probably just one stage away from taking a dump in a showroom toilet at B+Q!
― calzino, Monday, 14 December 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link
comfort is the main motivator of dress it's gotta be said. maybe the cringe of yr Clarksons is that it looks like they're going for something beyond that?
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link
xps to rob don’t know the tumblr but do know the twitterhttps://twitter.com/jeansandsheuxLook as modelled by LOTO herehttps://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/NINTCHDBPICT000616596390.jpg
― scampostiltskin (gyac), Monday, 14 December 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpRzybXWMAUGn_q?format=jpg&name=small
omg an early Christmas gift!
― calzino, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 12:46 (three years ago) link
Hachette have now cancelled publishing Julie Burchill’s forthcoming book The Woke Trials. @boozeandfagz after telling her to shut down her twitter.— Kerstin Rodgers (@MsMarmitelover) December 15, 2020
― calzino, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 12:57 (three years ago) link
HAHAHAHA
AND HEEEEEEEEERE COME THE THINKPIECES
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 12:59 (three years ago) link
Helen Lewis: don't encourage the plebs to write a book, jEz. And also getting books published is one of the inalienable universal human rights for all.
― calzino, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:06 (three years ago) link
As hilarious as this is, you really have to wonder what Hachette thought they were getting into commissioning a book by Julie Burchill called "The Woke Trials"
― Gary Sambrook eats substantial meals (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:19 (three years ago) link
willing to bet JB can trade up to a better publishing deal with this
(possibly with an even less discerning publisher)
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:22 (three years ago) link
well it must have been a business choice rather than artistic one, but jeez does her crap sell that much to make it worth the reputation damage?
― calzino, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:23 (three years ago) link
she was literally a millionaire off of PLATINUM LOGIC etc in the 80s
(which lol i bought and read: not good even as a pulp roman a clef abt joan jett if she'd signed to motown, the very evident inspiration)
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:27 (three years ago) link
everything else merely sells p well within the UK media village i think
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:28 (three years ago) link
simon and schuster gave milo a million-dollar advance iirc!
then he started yanking the actually-paedos-are-good lever lol (also there was a terricially funny courtcase abt it where discovery included them trying to edit the actual manuscript) (JB in the old days was well known as diligent at filing copy that needed little editorial work if you ignored like fact-checking any of the opinions -- viz she can spell and write a good sentence and construct a workable argument)
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link
in conclusion publishers don't know what they're doing either and everything is a stupid lottery
But Milo, at the time, was riding high on the alt-right/alt-lite wave. I can see how someone would think publishing a book of his would be very profitable. Burchill's time has passed, surely? If you want a FrEe SpEeCh islamophobia outrage read there's so many others to choose from.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:37 (three years ago) link
Yes, I cannot imagine who - other than, as mark says, UK media types - would be interested in reading a bok (or anything) by Julie Burchill in 2020.
― Godless Tiny Tim (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link
small but noisy clan of middle-aged coked-up ressentiment-laced rightwards-liberal north londoners
― imago, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link
oh you did say the media types actually, my bad
https://productimages.worldofbooks.com/1847490964.jpg
apparently Julie's effort isn't quite up to the standard of the Lawrence Fox book
― calzino, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:06 (three years ago) link
dh lawrence might as well be the absolute fucking patron saint of anti-woke media-types lol
― imago, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link
^^^my turn at being user Left, everyone must be cancelled
thing is, dh lawrence WAS -
― imago, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link
unconvinced by this assessment of the works of nottinghamshire dave
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link
ah c'mon, these people would kill to be declared legally obscene and have their works publicly banned lol
― imago, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link
Last time I tried to read Lawrence my teeth were so on edge after a page or two I must've ground them down a few millimetres
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link
And no of course the anti woke army don't want to be censored by the law where's the fun in that?
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link
wd you let yr servants read THE PLUMED SERPENT user imago? i put it to you --
https://img1.od-cdn.com/ImageType-400/2051-1/112/5C6/58/%7B1125C658-37F5-4DF4-8D18-8CDF232B7C84%7DImg400.jpg
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:20 (three years ago) link
good cover or bad?
(good)
Great cover, too good for that lummox
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link
i guess he's like hemingway, the good lessons are so absorbed by one and all you don't even see them as the value of the writing any more and only repeatedly stumble over the bad stuff nowadays
(dhl's book on american lit is excellent, very funny and sharp on things ppl weren't seeing then -- he wd have been a good shitposter, longform fucked him up i think)
(the fontana modern master on him is p good tho very weirdly structured, the leavis book is AMAZINGLY TERRIBLE)
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:28 (three years ago) link
The non novels are fine, yes, tbf. Every bit of the novels I've read are like a self-conscious scholarship boy trying to show you how smart he is and not quite pulling it off
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link
omg
― imago, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:32 (three years ago) link
I read Lawrence's Apocalypse before I really understood what it was about and seem to remember it was bonkers, need to give it another try.
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link
Lots of adult human females whinging in the mentions on that tweet, obvs.
― scampopo (suzy), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link
She has undeleted her twitter and posted a video of some IDF soldiers dancing
― ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link
Sea and Sardinia is great. I like a bunch of his poetry too. The novels are exhausting.
Burchill can fuck off.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link
i think... i quite like some of dhl's novels. Like is perhaps the wrong word. But the conversation has made me want to revisit The Rainbow and Sons and Lovers, which istr i found intersting at the time.
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 10:54 (three years ago) link
they were very fighty! (some of the fights song since won of course -- porn now compulsory -- but possibly not all!)
― mark s, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 12:55 (three years ago) link
those fights in full (except for the porn): "i am slim and fey and sexy and ginger and working class and yet i am also way smarter than any of you so-called bloomsbury types who want to pet me and fuck me"
― mark s, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 12:56 (three years ago) link
(i guess that includes some of the porn)
― mark s, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 12:57 (three years ago) link
Lorks, looks like JB is going full Linehan.
― lilcraigyboi (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 06:29 (three years ago) link
At least the awful, awful Linehan created works of genius before going full shithead
― Change Display Name: (stevie), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 07:26 (three years ago) link
JB, who is?
― Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 09:41 (three years ago) link
Julie Burchill, I’d guess.
― Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 09:51 (three years ago) link
My jaw has just hit the floor.
The Spectator’s Christmas edition contains this poem by Julie Burchill about Priti Patel; the rhyming is criminal, the intent malevolent. pic.twitter.com/UmONzBwMQl— Mic O’Holy Wright 🏳️🌈🌋🏴☠️ (@brokenbottleboy) December 28, 2020
― Dan Worsley, Monday, 28 December 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link
jesus, mary and jiminy fucking cricket!
― calzino, Monday, 28 December 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link
BOAK
― scampopo (suzy), Monday, 28 December 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link
I was expecting it to be awful, still wasn't at all prepared for that.
― ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 28 December 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link
i think this article that my phone wants me to read is also in the christmas one, surely a bumper issue of jfc no:
‘You can’t have opinions any more’: Rick Wakeman interviewed by Rod Liddle
― kites aren't fun (NickB), Monday, 28 December 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link
If I were Rick Wakeman, I'd be glad no-one was allowed opinions.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 28 December 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link
I'm pretty sure Rick does, in fact, express many of his opinions in said article.
― why can't they dance to Holdsworth? (Matt #2), Monday, 28 December 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link
this you can't say anything these days line is older than me and it's as strong as ever after decades of people loudly saying all the things they insist they're not allowed to say
it obviously has the effect of silencing kinds of speech that are accused of being silencing of the kinds of speech favoured by the telling it like it is crowd, but they seem to think this kind of preemptive self victimisation is an essential part of telling it like it is
― Left, Monday, 28 December 2020 20:08 (three years ago) link
this cancel culture thing we keep hearing about... how do we make it happen?
― new variant (onimo), Monday, 28 December 2020 23:36 (three years ago) link
I fully intend to ask people like that if they’re whinging about cancellation in advance of some major plan to say something insensitive in public.
― scampopo (suzy), Monday, 28 December 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link
it might have worked a treat for Julie. I don't know how publishing works but I presume she a got an advance on her book before it was cancelled. And now maybe she'll get another one! Or if not it's increased her profile much more than that execrable brexit play did. Lol I can remember when she was bigging up Patrick Marber as the greatest living UK playwright, around the time of Closer I think. For some ridiculous reason that play is on my bookshelf, my partner bought it at some point and when I was having a rubbish clear-out she wouldn't let me throw it in the burner where it belongs!
― calzino, Monday, 28 December 2020 23:56 (three years ago) link
dark lols at me typing "cancer culture" and just spotting it before I hit submit btw
― new variant (onimo), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 00:12 (three years ago) link
The problem I had with Closer was that every character was such an unbearable self-absorbed twat that it was hard to care about any of them, not surprised that JB identifies with it.
― ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 00:32 (three years ago) link
^^
nailed it!
― calzino, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 00:41 (three years ago) link
xxp
your typing/editing skills are still much better than mine, Onimo. I miss out words all the time and often even if I check before I post I mentally add them when they aren't there!
― calzino, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 00:43 (three years ago) link
one dialogue segment of Closer that Julie highlighted as classic playwright greatness was some corny as fuck line about how the human heart looks like a clenched fist... (´*`)
― calzino, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 00:48 (three years ago) link
He was always good on "Knowing Me, Knowing You" though.
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 01:15 (three years ago) link
true yeah.. and also as the dim-witted reporter Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan on the day today!
― calzino, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 01:23 (three years ago) link
Very much so!
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 01:25 (three years ago) link
Only saw it once, but iirc this was the last of Marber being funny as a writer or performer: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5cbyjp
― huge rant (sic), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 02:02 (three years ago) link
It was already mainstream in the 80s when I was a teen, eg media mockery of the "loony left", the GLC giving grants to black lesbian pottery groups, schoolchildren being made to sing Baa-Baa Green Sheep, "You can't call them 'manholes' now, you have to say 'person holes'", "right-on" alternative comedians forcing Bernard Manning and Jim Davidson off the air. Same old shit you hear today, and I'm sure older posters can give earlier examples.
― mahb, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 08:44 (three years ago) link
"These days you get arrested for humming a Gracie Fields ditty... "
― calzino, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 10:29 (three years ago) link
Did I @harry_m_h? Give referenced direct quotes, please. I think you may be mixing me up with the left-wing magazine 'Private Eye'. https://t.co/sPX7vCzFcq— Peter Hitchens (@ClarkeMicah) January 5, 2021
had a chortle at "left-wing magazine 'Private Eye'" but as Mark S posted recently, he's completely correct about them being the top cranks for Dr Wakefield.
― calzino, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 09:56 (three years ago) link
Aa proof that my dad is not reading my posts on ILX, he has bought me a subscription to Private Eye for Xmas, so I will be able to report what is in in through 2021 I suppose.To start with: The Craig Brown parody in the bumper Xmas issue was a fairly nasty but not that well-done Peter Hitchens piss-take.
― ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 11:41 (three years ago) link
the MD column is excellent though, and acknowledges that the Eye got it wrong on MMR
― Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 11:50 (three years ago) link
Craig Brown has always been shit tbfttl
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link
Same goes for the ex-Scotland manager of the same name.
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 20:13 (three years ago) link
I remember reading a whole book of Craig Brown and it was all like this, yes. The parodies in Viz (Tony Parsehole etc.) are much better.
― ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link
CUNT
Just to save people asking me the same question, yes, I think there is a direct equivalence - moral and practical - between someone like Trump and someone like McDonnell. And I think acknowledging that honestly is an important part of how we move forward now.— (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) January 7, 2021
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Thursday, 7 January 2021 15:26 (three years ago) link
someone ought to take his other eye out, he only sees up his own arse anyway.
― calzino, Thursday, 7 January 2021 15:29 (three years ago) link
Just to save people asking me the question, yes, I think there is a direct equivalence - moral and practical - between someone like Trump and someone like Dan Hodges.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 7 January 2021 15:31 (three years ago) link
i just think hodges is an absolute, simon-pure idiot. one of those people a bit like lolico where there’s no point thinking about anything that he says other than for the lols and to note “this is what an idiot sounds like and says”.
― Fizzles, Thursday, 7 January 2021 21:59 (three years ago) link
yeah but at least lolico is so utterly ridiculous and clueless that he's mildly amusing at times. I've never laughed at this guy once, even when he's at the ridiculum full-moon stage.
― calzino, Thursday, 7 January 2021 22:09 (three years ago) link
I always marvel that Hodges came up with this, post-Sandy Hook, which is OTM, and yet everything else is absoulte drivel
In retrospect Sandy Hook marked the end of the US gun control debate. Once America decided killing children was bearable, it was over.— (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) June 19, 2015
― Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Friday, 8 January 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link
'You can't say anything anymore' was a trope going strong in 2003 or so. I know because I used to hang around on a blog that took apart Daily Mail articles in fine detail. 'Political correctness' a term from Maoism, but been around since the 80s.
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Friday, 8 January 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link
Those complaining about an alleged 'PC' in the 80s, 90s, 00s and 10s never, ever seemed to have any substance to me
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Friday, 8 January 2021 20:49 (three years ago) link
Obvs many of the usual suspects continue to do so. As they're so used to making shit up, I doubt they've particularly noticed whatever is actually going on with this 'cancel culture'.
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Friday, 8 January 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link
i love glenda jackson in marat/sade
― plax (ico), Saturday, 9 January 2021 23:07 (three years ago) link
she said she wouldn't live in the same building as her son "because of the stench". But unfortunately I don't think she was referring to his excremental views expressed in the Torygraph. Her politics are quite Blue Labour which probably isn't shocking for someone of her age.
― calzino, Saturday, 9 January 2021 23:22 (three years ago) link
i think they do live together now? in blackheath
― plax (ico), Saturday, 9 January 2021 23:23 (three years ago) link
can u imagine
oh right I read this from an old tweet.. lol!
― calzino, Saturday, 9 January 2021 23:24 (three years ago) link
I always forget who Hodges mother is and how ashamed of him she must be
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2021 23:30 (three years ago) link
she is a Kier stan though and said in an interview that although she liked Corbyn she thought he was unelectable because the British working classes are too conservative to accept someone like him. This was a while back though, and she might have changed her mind about Kier since!
― calzino, Saturday, 9 January 2021 23:35 (three years ago) link
i think she's probably like tired
― plax (ico), Saturday, 9 January 2021 23:40 (three years ago) link
glenda jackson impersonations are also fun and easy. "we are women. in love."
― plax (ico), Saturday, 9 January 2021 23:41 (three years ago) link
I'm not surprised after having to bring up such a heavyweight dumbbell! But just adding she is very much Blue Labour because I'm ruthless, even against old bastards, sorry but I have no sentiment for luvvies!
― calzino, Saturday, 9 January 2021 23:43 (three years ago) link
They live together, he’s mentioned it a few times this lockdown
My mum: “Are you going to be doing more stuff defending Cummings”. Me: “Yes”. My mum: “Then you’re an idiot”. So that’s going well then...— (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) May 26, 2020
Just explained to my mum that if I run low on Granola again I’ll be sending her out on an early morning suicide run to the supermarket. She took it well.** This is a joke. I don’t want anyone to commit suicide. Or breach the elderly only shopping slot.— (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) March 19, 2020
"Why is Dan in a newsagents buying Lynx" you wonder. Therein lies a tale. My mum: "When you're out, get me some cigarettes". Me: "I'm your only child. If I make an extra trip I may catch the virus". Mum: "With the sacrifices I've made you don't want to go there". I buy the fags.— (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) April 24, 2020
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Sunday, 10 January 2021 00:00 (three years ago) link
Dan I hear supermarkets sell cigs
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 10 January 2021 00:03 (three years ago) link
What grown ass man buys himself Lynx ffs?
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 10 January 2021 00:04 (three years ago) link
Imagine having one child, and that child being Dan Hodges.
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Sunday, 10 January 2021 00:06 (three years ago) link
It's going to take me a long time not to see that twitter handle as DJP
― kinder, Sunday, 10 January 2021 00:46 (three years ago) link
This morning, Peter Hitchens goes full-in on Paul Mason, hopefully they will both lose.
My latest Mail on Sunday column : pic.twitter.com/FQkEszCNV9— Peter Hitchens (@ClarkeMicah) January 9, 2021
― ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 10 January 2021 09:57 (three years ago) link
The worst.
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Sunday, 10 January 2021 11:38 (three years ago) link
If you don't think KS will advance the class struggle you're possibly not understanding social democracy correctly from a Marxist viewpoint— Paul Mason (@paulmasonnews) April 8, 2020
this the most legendary Paul Mason tweet since Stoya come to Athens. It is a travesty it doesn't have 10 million likes!
― calzino, Sunday, 10 January 2021 12:05 (three years ago) link
Wtf is he talking about, is he pished all the time?
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 10 January 2021 12:07 (three years ago) link
he's telling us Kier Starmer will advance the class struggle. Cancel the Specsavers appointment - that is indeed what it says.
― calzino, Sunday, 10 January 2021 12:09 (three years ago) link
I can't think of a Marxist analysis of social democracy that think it advances the class struggle tho, or depending on your flavour of Marx everything advances the class struggle
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 10 January 2021 12:12 (three years ago) link
If you don't think Noske will advance the class struggle you're possibly not understanding social democracy correctly from a Marxist viewpoint
― as#d,.F:ddz;,c#,;;,;,;,sdf' (Left), Sunday, 10 January 2021 12:16 (three years ago) link
Was Douglas Murray complaining about the forthcoming Holocaust memorial covered anywhere? Not that I’ve seen, so here’s Portes:
The Holocaust Memorial should be opposed, because it might not endorse the @DouglasKMurray /Enoch Powell view that postwar nonwhite migration was a historic mistake, Murray argues.. pic.twitter.com/Wi6vuAi6lO— Jonathan Portes (@jdportes) January 9, 2021
https://t.co/YNj646JGFA— Jonathan Portes (@jdportes) January 9, 2021
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Sunday, 10 January 2021 12:17 (three years ago) link
Holocaust memorial should be more celebratory claims nazi academic
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 10 January 2021 12:26 (three years ago) link
headline if we had any good tabloids
― as#d,.F:ddz;,c#,;;,;,;,sdf' (Left), Sunday, 10 January 2021 12:30 (three years ago) link
I wonder if he touches on the cultural effects of British colonization in other countries?
― fish quits shock (Matt #2), Sunday, 10 January 2021 12:34 (three years ago) link
so people of the far-right like Murray do admit that Great Britain barely lifted a finger to help European Jewry in the 30's. I often hear centre-right UK politicians of both main parties waxing lyrical about the UK's long history of being a haven for persecuted minorities and then following up with reasons why it shouldn't be!
― calzino, Sunday, 10 January 2021 12:44 (three years ago) link
So Katie Hopkins has joined UKIP...
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:29 (three years ago) link
I'm guessing UKIP only exists for the direct debits now.
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:30 (three years ago) link
is there anyone else left in the party?
― ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:30 (three years ago) link
Neil Hamilton is still one of their verified big beasts!
― calzino, Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:34 (three years ago) link
He's leader apparently!
just had an IRL LOL at the timeline of UKIP leaders from Wikipedia
https://i.imgur.com/wwPI4od.png
― ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link
it's easier to keeping up with the Watford FC managers in recent times. I only noticed about 3 of these - of course Dick Braine was a quite a memorable leader!
― calzino, Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:47 (three years ago) link
there is a call here for Jeffrey Titford... is there a Jeffrey Titford
― calzino, Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:52 (three years ago) link
didn't realise Paulo Wanchope had had a go
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:01 (three years ago) link
Now that's the kind of immigrant they like
― a degree in bullshit from glasters uni (Matt #2), Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:05 (three years ago) link
does ukip stand for anything the tories don't these days
― as#d,.F:ddz;,c#,;;,;,;,sdf' (Left), Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:14 (three years ago) link
Despise this woman, honestly.
You can see the outline of how these people will reconcile us to the disastrous performance of a government they themselves played an indispensable role in electing here, and as you’d expect, it contains hints of the roaring Mail Rule Britannia take and FBPE diversity humping. pic.twitter.com/oGRrH47Wr7— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) January 16, 2021
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 16 January 2021 10:59 (three years ago) link
In 2019 'MPs lost all sense of perspective', writes Raf, before going on to suggest that Brexit and Jeremy Corbyn gave him a heart attack. https://t.co/XLa2Z7yRRR— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) January 16, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 January 2021 12:29 (three years ago) link
tiny violin gif
― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 January 2021 12:55 (three years ago) link
Yep, another great weekend for content
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 16 January 2021 12:56 (three years ago) link
I thrived on the tension and drama of British politics
― ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 16 January 2021 13:30 (three years ago) link
i want to suggest that Raf deserves multiple heart attacks, preferably fatal
― Un tranquillo posto di scampagna (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link
i suggest we simply deserve much better than these narcissists
― plax (ico), Sunday, 17 January 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link
Here's my latest article. It was a very difficult, painful piece to write. I poured my heart into it.I'd like to think we can draw a line under the issue now and embrace the things that unite us, but sadly the wretched Corbynista vermin won't do that because they are sub-human. pic.twitter.com/HWkA3Nkvln— Sarah Oxford-Laughdugry, 4 (@sarah_ox_laugh) January 17, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 17 January 2021 18:08 (three years ago) link
is that anna chancellor?
― plax (ico), Sunday, 17 January 2021 18:13 (three years ago) link
that is some kind of parody account
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Sunday, 17 January 2021 18:34 (three years ago) link
Daniela Nardini.
― scampopo (suzy), Sunday, 17 January 2021 18:36 (three years ago) link
xp no this is the real Sarah Oxford-Laughdugry account
― ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 17 January 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link
Trevor Bastard Extended Universe character, Simon Hedges et al
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 17 January 2021 18:48 (three years ago) link
It's Anna Chancellor
― kinder, Sunday, 17 January 2021 19:35 (three years ago) link
Looks good whoever that is
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 17 January 2021 20:11 (three years ago) link
would def consider this thread to be 'on main'
― imago, Sunday, 17 January 2021 20:12 (three years ago) link
i got the joke, was just wondering if anna chancellor has some previous that led to her being picked for this role
― plax (ico), Sunday, 17 January 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link
please understand i get jokes
As someone who can nap any time and any place, and once napped bolt upright during an especially dull one-to-one lunch with a party leader, I am disappointed that Downing St has issued a categorical denial that the PM takes afternoon naps. Much of my best work is in the...— Robert Peston (@Peston) January 19, 2021
twilight zone of semi consciousness— Robert Peston (@Peston) January 19, 2021
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link
btw anybody who makes an outraged tweet because J Clarkson has had an outrageous opinion for money is, at the very least, a dick
― Un tranquillo posto di scampagna (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:11 (three years ago) link
lol yes, the correct way to use the bill grundy show with sex pistols approach: "oh very good say something else outrageous"
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:21 (three years ago) link
Now follow this: "Biden's great, great, great grandfather, Edward Blewitt, left Ballina, co Mayo, Ireland for America during the Irish famine 170 years ago, which could mean he is well disposed towards Great Britain". Christopher Hope in Britain's Daily Telegraph.— Eoin Ó Murchú (@Eomurchu) January 19, 2021
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 09:58 (three years ago) link
Sarcasm?
― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 10:00 (three years ago) link
one thing I'm sure about is that type of third generation Irish identity genealogy you get in the US sucks absolute arse
― calzino, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 10:13 (three years ago) link
gropy Joe to the bbc correspondent "hey I'm Irish!" that was fucking embarrassing
it's like people who claim a working class identity cos their great-granddad went down on a miner once
― calzino, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 10:23 (three years ago) link
Funny how they're far less likely "Hey, I'm German!" even though there's more with German ancestry than Irish.
― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 10:49 (three years ago) link
I think you need to view that clip in the context of it resurfacing, which was that it boiled the piss of people like your Tom McTagues and therefore we can be a bit more lenient on old Joe on this point.
Ireland is extremely good at promoting itself and its agenda. It costs money but can achieve a lot. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the Brexit backstop debate, for eg, London totally lost the PR battle to Dublin. In part because of this kind of thing👇https://t.co/vAG5WD7jZ7— Tom McTague (@TomMcTague) January 18, 2021
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 10:49 (three years ago) link
me, normally: the thing about being Irish and being proud of it is that you have to take into context the history of the place and the revisionist promotion of it as an inherently progressive place when the politics are still really reactionary in terms of the parties we elect and -Tom McTague: literally anything he posts about Irelandme: YEAH LAD OLD JOE ISN’T GOING TO GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE UNION, SUCK IT
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 10:53 (three years ago) link
Funny how they're far less likely "Hey, I'm German!" even though there's more with German ancestry than Irish.Don't worry, they'll do it with absolutely any European ancestry whatsoever.
― shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 11:05 (three years ago) link
"I'm Dutch, my parents can trace their ancestry back to Pennsylvania."
― shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 11:07 (three years ago) link
"I don't have a driver's license, but I love cars, because I'm Sicilian."
― shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 11:09 (three years ago) link
They do, but undoubtedly some ancestries are prized above others.
― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 11:10 (three years ago) link
Yes, it is generally more a) spurious and b) profoundly-felt re Irishness.
― shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 11:15 (three years ago) link
In later life my dad went full shamrockbegorrahjaysus although his ancestors were CoI/Methodist on his dad’s side and fully Huguenot on his mum’s.
― scampopo (suzy), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 11:29 (three years ago) link
huguenot very slept on in these discussions
― mark s, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:12 (three years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Huguenots
― mark s, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:14 (three years ago) link
I always thought Brando was a huge knot
― calzino, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:23 (three years ago) link
Annoyed that my ancestor who was in charge of British prisoners during the Revolutionary War and my other more direct ancestor who was with Washington at Trenton (and devised burning the landed British barges) aren’t on that list, pffft.
― scampopo (suzy), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:39 (three years ago) link
none of my ancestors are apparently from anywhere more exotic than County Cork, however there is this guy who seems pretty interestinghttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancelot_Errington
― ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:43 (three years ago) link
the view in the US seems to be that the irish gene is dominant
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link
A little unsure where the break would be presumed to be between irish diaspora of catholic origins and those of the other sects tbh
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link
yes i concur.
although it is funny to think about the scots-irish peple whose ancestors were peep o day boys turning over in their graves when they donated to NORAID
― Fenners' Pen (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link
Ive eaten at the restaurant beside the huguenot graveyard here in town and tbh i dont see what the fuss is about the soup
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:03 (three years ago) link
My Irishes emigrated to Ontario before every single male child of theirs went to America armed with a medical degree, to serve in various backwaters with hospitals.
― scampopo (suzy), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link
tbf a lot of them were rebels who hated the English, so not all bad
― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:45 (three years ago) link
Im actually lost bit lookit
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link
― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 2:49 AM (eight hours ago)
gabbneb???
― Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:22 (three years ago) link
Remember when Patrick Maguire used to write for the bad NS? Awful awful content
The just slightly too enthusiastic Biden joy amongst the blue ticks is the dawning realisation that they have collectively fucked it into the heart of the sun, IMO pic.twitter.com/a03sNQDUxG— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) January 21, 2021
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:02 (three years ago) link
TERFs are confused
I am SO happy that Biden won and Trump lost. But this is terrible https://t.co/meJ2OskCtv— Hadley Freeman (@HadleyFreeman) January 21, 2021
― ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:31 (three years ago) link
Thoroughly normal people.
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:45 (three years ago) link
O THANK YOU, Uncle Joe, for taking away women's sex-based rights, which those before us fought so hard to win! Would you like to wipe your bum on we giggling gals of your fan-club next? It's OUR PLEASURE!— Julie Burchill (@BoozeAndFagz) January 21, 2021
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:46 (three years ago) link
Julie Burchill fought for women's sex-based rights? When?
― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:51 (three years ago) link
fishhook theory confirmed again
― calzino, Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:57 (three years ago) link
No, no, it was those before her! Are you accusing her of egotism?
― up-the-arts corner (Matt #2), Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:57 (three years ago) link
Poor Julie, between this and Joe being a proud Fenian, it must have been such a hard day for her
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:58 (three years ago) link
Those before her did the fighting - Charles Shaar Murray, Nick Kent.
― mahb, Thursday, 21 January 2021 11:01 (three years ago) link
Getting sonned by a bookshop, you love too etc
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Thursday, 21 January 2021 11:07 (three years ago) link
Hi yes, we are an American bookshop in London. Owned by an American. She is the sole-proprietor. Pays taxes in America and Britain. Thank you. https://t.co/NmUzZkpwSR— The Second Shelf in Second Lockdown or Third or? (@secondshelfbks) January 21, 2021
I do have to wonder how someone so thick with no discernable writing talent has managed to have such a successful career in journalism
― ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 21 January 2021 11:32 (three years ago) link
It's almost as if it's who you know not whether you're any good or not
― Un tranquillo posto di scampagna (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 January 2021 11:37 (three years ago) link
"all the worst parts of the Equality Act"
― nashwan, Thursday, 21 January 2021 11:40 (three years ago) link
Jobs for life.
― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 January 2021 11:44 (three years ago) link
inherited wealth
― plax (ico), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:42 (three years ago) link
second shelf is an excellent little bookshop, well worth a visit if you’re in soho, fantastic range of women’s and gender diverse writing.
― Lord of the RONGS (Fizzles), Sunday, 31 January 2021 12:47 (three years ago) link
yes i saw that. hadley freeman also covering herself in glory lashing out at the excellent women’s and gender diverse bookshop the second shelf is good timing as well. not sure how much of a choice you get but ew, do not want to read anything by hadley freeman even if it’s about My Favoruite LRB HERO Patricia Lockwood She Can Do No Wrong. (i haven’t read priest daddy and have no particular urge to - should i?)
― Lord of the RONGS (Fizzles), Sunday, 31 January 2021 12:50 (three years ago) link
RONG thread
― Lord of the RONGS (Fizzles), Sunday, 31 January 2021 12:51 (three years ago) link
no it’s not
― Left, Sunday, 31 January 2021 13:15 (three years ago) link
A happy(?) accident.
― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Sunday, 31 January 2021 13:18 (three years ago) link
patricia lockwood's books/poetry are not as good as you might hope. i think there's something ultimately ephemeral about her writing that doesn't work in those forms. i have one of her collections of poetry and i enjoyed it at first but its much more conservative in outlook than i would have hoped and i felt very underwhelmed by it.
― plax (ico), Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:14 (three years ago) link
there was a poem that was very 'honoring our troops' that made me do a face
plax you're not the first person to have said that, and despite my general enjoyment of Lockwood in the LRB as a good counterweight, i'm not feeling a huge urge to go into the wider works.
― Lord of the RONGS (Fizzles), Monday, 1 February 2021 15:51 (three years ago) link
oh that's interesting, i hadn't actually encountered that said about her. disappointingly nobody i've seen writing about her has really done her the courtesy of engaging with her writing beyond 'poet laureate of twitter' laziness. i do enjoy her as a 'breath of fresh air' lol
― plax (ico), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:08 (three years ago) link
just in case of any doubt that wasn't a 'plax why are you repeating that old saw about her being not as good as you might hope,' just that i've heard from other people something similar, and my response was 'ah right, yes, another person i trust basically saying this' (I haven't seen it much out in the wild as an opinion tbh).
― Lord of the RONGS (Fizzles), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link
pouring one out for Darren "Grimesy" Grimes who is leaving London to go back to his mum's house, RIP big man
― Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Friday, 19 February 2021 10:55 (three years ago) link
On 13 December 2020 I made defamatory statements about @AyoCaesar, which I sincerely regret and retract and have undertaken not to repeat. I have agreed to pay substantial damages to Ash Sarkar and her legal costs. Here is my full and wholehearted apology. Please retweet pic.twitter.com/tc2aUKbCOK— Julie Burchill (@BoozeAndFagz) March 16, 2021
u loves to see it
― calzino, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 09:14 (three years ago) link
Lol was just coming here for this
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 09:19 (three years ago) link
will this affect her glittering Fleet Street career? The signs are... it won't.
― Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 09:23 (three years ago) link
would be funny if she could be made to retract all the other terrible things she's written in the same style, I do note that her anti-woke book is due to be published again though.
― Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 09:32 (three years ago) link
the most normal paper on normal island
At the time, when Julie Burchill was sending me abusive and defamatory tweets, I tried to contact her editor Allister Heath at the Sunday Telegraph both on Twitter and via email.He never replied.— Ash Sarkar (@AyoCaesar) March 16, 2021
― Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 09:53 (three years ago) link
God, Allister Heath, that guy is a horror.
― Woke For Luck (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 09:56 (three years ago) link
weird how these things just keep happening to Julie through no fault of her own
Amazing 48hrs for Julie Burchill. pic.twitter.com/i26rHCiEmy— The Trashies (@TheTrashiesUK) March 17, 2021
― Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 14:32 (three years ago) link
can't wait for the book about the book
― calzino, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 14:46 (three years ago) link
still haven't got over hearing Julie's weird voice tbh
― Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 14:51 (three years ago) link
wouldn't be a good "narrated by author" option for audible
― calzino, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 14:54 (three years ago) link
Not a journo more of a twitter grifter being utterly deranged
A very lovely man and a brilliant journalist.— nicole lampert (@nicolelampert) May 8, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 May 2021 13:47 (two years ago) link
astonishing that a published obituary or various commentators on twitter would omit to mention that his "lovely guy" murdered his wife
― calzino, Monday, 10 May 2021 13:51 (two years ago) link
He was a kind man though and he murdered his wife out of kindness - how could she have wished to live without him after his subsequent suicide (which he failed to accomplish at six times of trying)? Good thing they didn't have children! They'd have been murdered too. What a vile fucking misogynist, as is everyone tweeting about what a wonderful fella he was.
― I'm not eating that foreign muck *pulls face* (Matt #2), Monday, 10 May 2021 13:52 (two years ago) link
She’s definitely a journo for the Mail but ISTG spends most of her time on FB journo groups pretending she’s not part of Gnasher.
― the thin blue lying (suzy), Monday, 10 May 2021 13:55 (two years ago) link
Very sad news. I had the pleasure to work alongside John as he made the world worse to enrich an awful Australian billionaire. I remember him once joking at the Wapping St canteen: “this reminds me of that time I held my wife’s head under water until she died”— The Magician’s Breakfast (@MagiciansDinner) May 9, 2021
― Neil S, Monday, 10 May 2021 14:15 (two years ago) link
One of the replies to that gives you the warning message: "The following media includes potentially sensitive content." It's a gif of a black football player saying something innocuous. Keep on, Twitter.
― I'm not eating that foreign muck *pulls face* (Matt #2), Monday, 10 May 2021 14:18 (two years ago) link
I had no idea who you were talking about so had to google - I wasn't going to look at either of those tweets - and wtf?!?! If nothing else it shows why Boris Johnson's serial infidelities and fathering of children willy nilly is no biggie to these cunts.
― Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Monday, 10 May 2021 14:54 (two years ago) link
Yeah everyone above otm, it’s so awful that I saw Jeet Heer pick it up because the rationale is just off the charts
― Scamp Granada (gyac), Monday, 10 May 2021 15:01 (two years ago) link
sharon needham@sharonneedham19May 8What a lovely, sensitive tribute you have written to this man. As he helped a lot of young hacks do u fancy following in his footsteps and helping me???
john sturgis@sturgiosMay 8Nice try! Maybe on another day.
― nashwan, Monday, 10 May 2021 15:08 (two years ago) link
tbh, the problem is less that they would show kindness, empathy and a belief in rehabilitation in relation to someone they knew, it’s that they would actively deny and work against even a fraction of a percentage of the same being shown to anyone they don’t.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 10 May 2021 16:11 (two years ago) link
mic wright's piece good on this:
https://brokenbottleboy.substack.com/p/the-suns-killer-obit-fleet-streets
― Fizzles, Monday, 10 May 2021 17:13 (two years ago) link
I have always maintained that Mathew Parris is the absolute worst of this group of terrible people.
This is disgusting and just the latest example of The Times attacking GRT people — a minority who are never given a voice in the national press and are endlessly vilified. pic.twitter.com/hHOuIkr77i— Mic Wright 🏳️🌈🌋🏴☠️ (@brokenbottleboy) May 15, 2021
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 May 2021 08:04 (two years ago) link
didn't he grow up in Southern Rhodesia? Vile man. There probably were identical articles in that 30's party's house newspaper
― calzino, Saturday, 15 May 2021 08:12 (two years ago) link
he's very polite though
― calzino, Saturday, 15 May 2021 08:22 (two years ago) link
I find his "polite reasonable sensible thinker" shtick deeply fucking sinister.
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 May 2021 08:29 (two years ago) link
BRWP just love telling you things have "gone too far" when what they mean is someone disagrees with them.
― remind me not to read the comments on that one (Matt #2), Saturday, 15 May 2021 08:42 (two years ago) link
It's time we stopped pandering to commentators. Indulging those who claim to be journalists by giving them designated sites and verified account status has gone too far.
― I was born anxious, here's how to do it. (ledge), Saturday, 15 May 2021 08:57 (two years ago) link
you get some horrific guest/nominee combinations with this creep on Great Lives, but lol I still listen to it. I can't remember if the true nadir was Timothy Mallet doing Richard The Lionheart or Al Murry choosing Monty.
― calzino, Saturday, 15 May 2021 09:23 (two years ago) link
Woke Soubz says this piece is spot on, what exactly was "woke" about her? That she was friends with Chuka maybe.
― calzino, Saturday, 15 May 2021 09:28 (two years ago) link
I cannot listen to a minute of Great Lives, it judt seems like an exercise in MP setting himself up as an arbiter of worthiness, second-worst thing on R4 after The Moral Maze.
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 May 2021 09:31 (two years ago) link
OTM.
― Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 May 2021 09:38 (two years ago) link
I feel quite attacked when one of my heroes is featured on GL, but yet still I listen and know it isn't doing me any good!
― calzino, Saturday, 15 May 2021 09:39 (two years ago) link
@michaelrosenyes The Tory Party has been a party of the left since it adopted Blairism under Cameron. One day you might get it. https://t.co/Ll2UjvqKT4— Peter Hitchens (@ClarkeMicah) May 30, 2021
Hitchens is having a heated discussion with Michael Rosen!
― calzino, Sunday, 30 May 2021 20:59 (two years ago) link
his completely addled version of recent history includes: that Blair was a Eurocommunist, so was Cameron and the BBC amongst many other British institutions has been infiltrated by the left. Some proof of this is that the BBC don't often invite him back these days.
― calzino, Sunday, 30 May 2021 21:07 (two years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3XnEdaXoAEn0rz?format=jpg&name=large
cancelled again, too racist even for the Torygraph.
― calzino, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 15:10 (two years ago) link
still trying to edgelord in your sixties - that is beyond tragic.
― calzino, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 15:21 (two years ago) link
lol, jfc at both of those. It's such a shame cancel culture never fucking sticks.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link
oh she'll still get plenty of work in the UK media. It's slightly surprisingly that the Torygraph actually have a line on racism that you can't cross, probably a difficult line to define but it's obv there!
― calzino, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 15:39 (two years ago) link
you've got to do polite racism like Parris does.
― calzino, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 15:41 (two years ago) link
you can do all the racism you like in the telegraph but you can't say that a ROYAL baby named after HER MAJESTY and PRINCESS DIANA OF ALL OUR HEARTS should instead be named "Georgina Floydina" - she should have saved her shit fucking joke for the baby of a musician or an actor, her editor would have loved it.
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:05 (two years ago) link
she probably thought it was open
― calzino, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link
season (that fucking couple) and no rules applied.
― calzino, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:29 (two years ago) link
fuck giles coren
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 14:21 (two years ago) link
if you've lucked into the job of going to fancy restaurants for a living you'd think you'd count yr blessings and try to be a somewhat affable presence
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 20 July 2021 14:32 (two years ago) link
he's deleted the tweet, the disgusting little weasel
― Neil S, Tuesday, 20 July 2021 15:14 (two years ago) link
people rightfully hated a a gill but he never did anything even 10% as vile as this cunt.
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 15:18 (two years ago) link
yeah A A was a decent human being next to this disgusting little piece of shit
― MoMsnet (calzino), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 15:26 (two years ago) link
https://i2-prod.leeds-live.co.uk/news/leeds-news/article20486330.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/0_Danny-MalinJPG.jpg
^^^
the only affable right-wing food critic in the UK iirc
― MoMsnet (calzino), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link
― MoMsnet (calzino), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 15:32 (two years ago) link
what did he say
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 15:36 (two years ago) link
He didn’t “sign into the wrong account”. The left was his first draft and the right is what he genuinely thought would be fine pic.twitter.com/nO6YeOUNXo— Ciara McShane (@Ciara87C) July 20, 2021
― Neil S, Tuesday, 20 July 2021 15:38 (two years ago) link
Lol
I'm used to terrible people thriving but if there is no sanction for Coren's obscene cruelty, then that will be a moral failure even by the standards of the columnist circuit.— Dorian Lynskey (@Dorianlynskey) July 20, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 20 July 2021 17:28 (two years ago) link
I'm guessing the Coren comment was about Dawn? So the follow up guess is that DL probably called fuck out of her for most of her politics throughout her career
But maybe this is the non-liberal bit of my brain being illiberal
― Southgate Serves Imperialism (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link
one of my fave Dawn memorial anecdotes of the last few days was that she got quite drunk at some Graun do and made some pretty rum comments to many of them, including calling Will Self a nonce! I'm sure DL was completely up in arms when his employers sacked her whilst she was in hospital.
― MoMsnet (calzino), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 17:52 (two years ago) link
Just two Times columnists who want to get to the truth about (checks notes) exonerating the Luftwaffe for Guernica pic.twitter.com/6eh1occm1P— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) July 28, 2021
I'd never heard of regular Times columnist Gerald Warner before he wrote this repulsive fascist apologia for Reaction. Even though this is the least of his crimes here, anyone calling Guernica "Picasso's daub" in the year 2021 definitely deserves to be taken very seriously.
― calzino, Thursday, 29 July 2021 07:45 (two years ago) link
heartbreaking that woke snowflake cancel culture now means that people can't express support in the media for Fascism
― mogwai oh wai oh wai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 July 2021 07:55 (two years ago) link
Iain Martin, another blot on Paisley's reputation, though you'd never guess from his accent.
'Gerald Warner' is also Scottish.
He has written about being part of that "dwindling band of individualists who persist in defying the zeitgeist" by wearing a monocle.
― Wouldn't disgrace a Michael Jackson (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 July 2021 07:57 (two years ago) link
Scottish unionists, great bunch o' lads, wha's like them?
― Wouldn't disgrace a Michael Jackson (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 July 2021 07:59 (two years ago) link
300 not 1600 dead hmm I wonder if this person disputes any other massacres, genocides
― nashwan, Thursday, 29 July 2021 08:56 (two years ago) link
Iain Martin is also one of the highly esteemed Orwell Prize judges: "Britain’s most prestigious Prize for political writing".
― calzino, Thursday, 29 July 2021 09:16 (two years ago) link
you say yr a fan of the orwell prize, name five of its winners
― mark s, Thursday, 29 July 2021 09:23 (two years ago) link
answers will surprise you
they're ALL fascists
It may be a step too far to attempt a rehabilitation of David Irving's *astonishing* body of work, but a regular Times column and a slot on GBTV wouldn't seem so beyond the pale these days!
― calzino, Thursday, 29 July 2021 09:51 (two years ago) link
Your reminder that Evelyn Waugh and others were very open in their support for Franco. pic.twitter.com/E4awMKUt4m— Ken Pasok (@paulewart23) July 29, 2021
https://open.bu.edu/handle/2144/15314
interesting thread here and you can download a dossier on the author's replies from that link
― calzino, Thursday, 29 July 2021 11:31 (two years ago) link
Aleister Crowley calls Franco a pirate and a common murderer and then suggests Hitler may prove to be a prophet!
― calzino, Thursday, 29 July 2021 11:36 (two years ago) link
boo at that book cover not splitting the authors into two rows so I can instantly know, do they think I got all day
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 29 July 2021 11:53 (two years ago) link
some of them are quite amusing, one of them (Nevison whoever the fuck he is)) denounces fascism and also complains that it's a great threat to British Empire interests in the Mediterranean.
― calzino, Thursday, 29 July 2021 12:00 (two years ago) link
the "definitely against" row is p short (just five names) -- saddest inclusion for me there is arthur machen tbh, not that i'd quickly turn to him for political recommendations
the "neutral?" row is 15 ppl both-sidesing it like it was going out of fashion, including an extremely melty wells and (lol) a typically demented ezra pound posting thru it like the michael tracey of his day except he can supposedly read mandarin
(pound isn't neutral at all of course, he just thinks that the important thing to be mad about is that everyone involved is a liberal sap)
― mark s, Thursday, 29 July 2021 12:03 (two years ago) link
Ruby M. AyresUNINFORMED INTERFERENCE in international politics is more to be dreaded than any anticipated danger resulting from conflict in Spain.As a professional writer I dread amateurs.
UNINFORMED INTERFERENCE in international politics is more to be dreaded than any anticipated danger resulting from conflict in Spain.
As a professional writer I dread amateurs.
hah hah! it's not armies and bullets that kill people, it's posting!
― calzino, Thursday, 29 July 2021 13:05 (two years ago) link
Pound's take on the politics was funny and expected, the extremity of the antisemitic frothing was horribly new to me - like Eliot he toned it down for the poetry ffs
― mogwai oh wai oh wai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 July 2021 13:36 (two years ago) link
Lol, the "watch your tone" in this:
Norman Douglas "I DON’T KNOW WHAT TO SAY about your questionnaire. I cannot excite myself over nations and causes and creeds—my contempt for humanity in general is too great. Individuals are the only things that interest me. If Spaniards like to cut each other’s 239 throats and get Germans and Russians to help them—why not let them? It’s not my affair. If they eat each other up to the last man, like Kilkenny cats, let them! This will sound unsatisfactory to you. But if you want the truth, there it is..."
Douglas is best remembered for his novelSouth Wind (1917) and his feud with D. H. Lawrence (1885–1930), exemplified in thepolemic D. H. Lawrence and Maurice Magnus: a Plea for Better Manners (1925)
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 29 July 2021 13:42 (two years ago) link
239 throats?
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 29 July 2021 13:44 (two years ago) link
rude? d h lawrencenot rude at all? saying spaniards can eat each other
― mark s, Thursday, 29 July 2021 13:45 (two years ago) link
RE Pound: "the stank of England" just doesn't sound worthy of someone who was supposed to be a top class poet and wordsmith, but also what a wanker!
― calzino, Thursday, 29 July 2021 13:45 (two years ago) link
What did Eric Linklater have to say? A really weird choice for them to go to a guy who mostly wrote comic novels in the Wodehouse vein...
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 29 July 2021 14:08 (two years ago) link
Linklater: "MY SYMPATHY is with the people and government of Republican Spain. I am against Fascism and Franco and all who set the mythical value of an imaginary totality above the intellect and freedom of the individual. To European civilisation Fascism is as dreary and dreadful a peril as another Flood—and the Ark of the Covenant has unhappily been scuttled"
he was a professional journalist and a prolific essayist and commentator, even if that side of his work is now long forgotten .
― mark s, Thursday, 29 July 2021 14:12 (two years ago) link
by "professional journalist" i mean "prominent journalist" lol
― mark s, Thursday, 29 July 2021 14:13 (two years ago) link
my god Flora Gill is just astonishingly thick, it is a sight to behold
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 29 July 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link
Eric Linklater very prescient about the soon to be rediscovered Ark
― mogwai oh wai oh wai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 July 2021 15:35 (two years ago) link
Flora advocating pornography for children and then deleting the tweet and saying that people taking screenshots is bad was very funny tbf!
― calzino, Thursday, 29 July 2021 15:41 (two years ago) link
the other ghouls with nepotism jobs know that there are no consequences any more and you can just double down on any awful shit, Flora is somehow too thick to grasp this
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 29 July 2021 15:45 (two years ago) link
seriously suggest following Flora's Twitter, it's the most surreally inane thing out there, she has absolutely nothing to say and cannot stop saying it
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 29 July 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link
i feel that "if only pornography for children!" is less NOTHING than SOMETHING, albeit quite a bad something
― mark s, Thursday, 29 July 2021 16:05 (two years ago) link
these days if you say there should be porn for children you get arrested and thrown in jail
― mogwai oh wai oh wai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 July 2021 16:08 (two years ago) link
Quality damning with faint praise
When dad died I was amazed at how many people that could've hated him, instead, said really lovely, thoughtful things. That's the only right way to be.— Flora Gill (@FloraEGill) July 20, 2021
― nashwan, Thursday, 29 July 2021 16:11 (two years ago) link
I'm still on the Spanish war thing (thanks for that link calzino btw, it is fascinating). Leonard Barnes seems like a dude.
― emil.y, Thursday, 29 July 2021 16:23 (two years ago) link
xxxp would suggest that it is "nothing" in the sense that it has not been thought about in enough depth to be even considered an idea, it's not badly phrased, it's just utter stupidity presented very poorly.
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 29 July 2021 16:26 (two years ago) link
just look at this, should be a really simple joke, she simply cannot put the words together properly
I’m really worried that it was coming home but it was being delivered by Hermes, so they prematurely said it was home but it’s not actually here and it might be lost in transit forever...— Flora Gill (@FloraEGill) July 11, 2021
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 29 July 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link
should say thanks to calzino for the Revolutions suggestion, Francisco Madero truly is the Kier Starmer of early 20th century Mexico.
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 29 July 2021 16:32 (two years ago) link
Baron Boris Vladimirovich Stürmer - the Kieth of early 20th century Russia, but he was actually a PM for some time so perhaps not!
― calzino, Thursday, 29 July 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link
This is such a brutal putdown
It reminds me of an incident a few years ago in which a group of lefty men denigrated me as “Chuka Umunna’s intern” because they couldn’t get their head round the fact a woman with brown skin might be on a think tank advisory board. (They didn’t target anyone else on that board.)— Sonia Sodha (@soniasodha) July 30, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 July 2021 12:12 (two years ago) link
Sonia is such a load of garbage. Good to see her getting rinsed.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 July 2021 12:13 (two years ago) link
"Student-like nature of their politics"
Incidentally, that’s why I momentarily liked a tweet that was a dig at the student-like nature of their politics. I unliked it pretty quickly though because I felt it was a bit beneath me - when they go low, we go high after all 😉.— Sonia Sodha (@soniasodha) July 30, 2021
― nashwan, Friday, 30 July 2021 12:30 (two years ago) link
It would be pitiful except, y'know, paid loads of money to be this thick
― i wish i had cuck feet (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 July 2021 12:33 (two years ago) link
Whatever Novara's faults that was a pretty good piece on Corbyn and Starmer. The liking and unliking of Kamm's tweet is the thing I'd call infantile.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 July 2021 12:47 (two years ago) link
rare footage of the "rob (dog)" cited in the review: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Rob_para_dog.jpg
― mark s, Friday, 30 July 2021 13:17 (two years ago) link
TIL that the victoria cross for animals is called the "dickin' medal"
― mark s, Friday, 30 July 2021 13:27 (two years ago) link
I knew this and have always had big questions about what constitutes bravery in an animal
― i wish i had cuck feet (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 July 2021 13:34 (two years ago) link
I bet Rob would have traded that silly award in for a nice big ham bone .. oo-er
― calzino, Friday, 30 July 2021 13:36 (two years ago) link
my dog is very brave he runs into barbed wire like it's string and sometimes attempts to digest whole socks, he'd be make a great military labbie.
― calzino, Friday, 30 July 2021 13:42 (two years ago) link
It is extremely funny to me that journalists have been heavily On Twitter for so long but they *still* simply cannot believe that normal people are allowed to respond to - even critique! - them. They've been in the denial stage of grief over this for over a decade now lol— ACAB Rees-Mogg (@jelly_pack) July 30, 2021
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 30 July 2021 14:16 (two years ago) link
I guess before social media the idea writers were smarter than their readers was pretty common. Most writers that struggle with what the tweet is describing started out before then.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 July 2021 17:36 (two years ago) link
not sure how consciously strategic it was, but one of the innovations of the gawker stable -- its layers of internal chat-groups, like kinja (which was i believe propietary and intended as a selling point) but also a semi-dedicated slack, which evolved alongside it, meant that a large-ish gang of writers came up very used to a kind of pre-emptive collective process of crypto-editing-by-competing-readers, a much less intimately secluding editing context than existed in the old days… which i think has made it less startling -- for that micro-generation of writers -- to have to adapt to the presence in social media of large gangs of highly critical readers joking abt yr work in friendly and in unfriendly ways. there's still an inside and an outside to the banter -- and the tale of that stable didn;t exactly go smoothly and always had other issues, but that's a development (including a potential for managed transparency) that the older publishing structures don't seem to have adapted well to. i think bcz it entails major challenges to established hierarchy (tho i likely establishes new hierarchies and also exarcerbates the problem of writers obsessing much too much in public abt the inner proecudures of publishing) (not that i mind, i love that shit)
― mark s, Friday, 30 July 2021 18:40 (two years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8pd0YLWUAQUHG0?format=jpg&name=900x900
this spiffing chap who is married to the PM's press secretary and is best mates with Rishi has a solution to the stress the chaotic UK government has given rise to: find some solace in the season finale of The Crown that will never get made because of too much paedophile and death content.
― calzino, Friday, 13 August 2021 07:56 (two years ago) link
Lionel Shriver going full Waitrose-Katie-Hopkins in The Spectator today.
‘More than a third of UK births now involve at least one foreign-born parent; in parts of London, 80 per cent of births are to foreign--born mothers.’✍️ Lionel Shriverhttps://t.co/AveBeSWR5Z— The Spectator (@spectator) August 30, 2021
― fc_TEFH28mo (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 10:00 (two years ago) link
if there was such a thing as a functioning "cancel-culture" you'd never hear another word from this one hit wonder
― calzino, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 10:05 (two years ago) link
She has released SEVEN novels in the past decade and only one has a Wikipedia article, that's pretty telling.
― fc_TEFH28mo (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 10:12 (two years ago) link
yeah there is definitely a correlation between declining book sales and increasing desperate shouty loudness of her racism
― calzino, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 10:14 (two years ago) link
is the window shifting a bit so that replacement theory is now part of a "robust debate" rather than rabid fringe fascist blathering?
― calzino, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 10:26 (two years ago) link
She writes that Tweet like she’s not foreign-born herself.
― the thin blue lying (suzy), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 14:54 (two years ago) link
no she’s not she’s white. headline & terminology is just a bit of arse covering misdirection
great replacement shit has been mainstream here for a while tbh liberals and more than a few leftists have been entertaining it for years too
― Left, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 16:33 (two years ago) link
Not sure Lionel schriver is a liberal. Not many liberals are into loyalism despite being from America
― 《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 05:26 (two years ago) link
Hold on one of my parents was 'foreign'! Although since they were also white I suppose it's not an issue, phew. Hoping for "The Great Pundit Replacement" to happen some time soon although not holding my breath.
― john landis as man being smashed into window (uncredited) (Matt #2), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 08:10 (two years ago) link
the number of self-identifying Irish-Americans are six times that of the current RoI population, but they are a great set of white American lads!
― calzino, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 08:21 (two years ago) link
She’s from northern Irish prod stock and explicitly identifies as a Unionist.
― the thin blue lying (suzy), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 08:49 (two years ago) link
there's a cosy photo of her with a UFF mug
― fc_TEFH28mo (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 08:52 (two years ago) link
This pic will never not be shown when she pops up on here...Nice mug. pic.twitter.com/g0u4QXZ3eu— Mupper (@mupper2) August 31, 2021
xped by CAL I was right!
yeah I vaguely remember her posting a pic with a UDA cup or something like that
― calzino, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 08:55 (two years ago) link
She's a worthless troll. So, of course, she has no problem finding platforms for her worthless trolling.
― "Bobby Gillespie" (ft. Heroin) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 08:57 (two years ago) link
Just trying to imagine how much work a left-wing journalist would get if they posed with an IRA mug, guessing literally none.
― fc_TEFH28mo (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 09:01 (two years ago) link
I remember a R4 program by her with no racist content, more sort of talking about her childhood and her transformation into a great writer. She's very dull and most certainly never has suffered from imposter syndrome or any kind of self doubt.
― calzino, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 09:08 (two years ago) link
I see her husband is a jazz drummer, perhaps she can get him a strap on bass drum as a pressie and they can go on a romantic marching season holiday.
― calzino, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 10:32 (two years ago) link
^^^the marching season joke that needed to happen somehow.
FTR my Irish ancestors were Protestant but AFAICT they were Methodist so probably not at all sectarian.
― the thin blue lying (suzy), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 11:15 (two years ago) link
Dorian is now writing for the cow blog
Enjoyed this piece by @Dorianlynskey about the lack of strong negative opinions at the moment in criticism. https://t.co/aAn5yr9KT0 It's something I think about a lot in terms of film-writing right now, and I think Dorian gets to the heart of it.— Caspar Salmon (@CasparSalmon) September 6, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 September 2021 09:22 (two years ago) link
sharing space with the likes of Douglas Murray now is it? lol what a wanker
― calzino, Monday, 6 September 2021 10:25 (two years ago) link
He has been for a while but I think they pay many people £1 per word. Not that I would ever want to write for them.
― the thin blue lying (suzy), Monday, 6 September 2021 10:26 (two years ago) link
using that risible Scott Tobias piece on Shrek as an example of critics being silenced by the twitter mob is quite unworthy of a quid a word!
― calzino, Monday, 6 September 2021 10:33 (two years ago) link
To mark 20 years since 9/11 Brendan has provided us with an extra-specially-stupid take, I mean this one is going to be really hard to beat.
https://i.imgur.com/qxjFd5P.png
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 10 September 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link
How can there be so little brain lurking within Brendan's massive noggin?
― "the fancy things" being his nads, etc (stevie), Saturday, 11 September 2021 09:18 (two years ago) link
and LOL I just discovered that Spiked have blocked me on Twitter. Such snowflakes.
― "the fancy things" being his nads, etc (stevie), Saturday, 11 September 2021 09:20 (two years ago) link
i'm not saying Brendan isn't a 5 watt bulb, but he also knows what he's doing with stuff like the Osama piece, who he's playing to, and how he's shaping the long term background music
― cheesons to be rearful (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 September 2021 09:58 (two years ago) link
not sure how this one is playing (he has long ago blocked me) but surely this take is so ridiculous that even his usual fans will be going "nah"
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 11 September 2021 10:02 (two years ago) link
One of the best things about the pandemic is that Brendan O'Neill has disappeared from our TV screens, the only Spiked person you regularly see these days is Ella Whelan but, to compensate, she is on everything.
― How does Spock's brain come into this? (Tom D.), Saturday, 11 September 2021 10:36 (two years ago) link
baldlisted by the UK establishment because they just can't handle the bald truth
― calzino, Saturday, 11 September 2021 10:47 (two years ago) link
just a neutral news aggregation service pic.twitter.com/SSLgXPLCBZ— 𝔐𝔞𝔤𝔫𝔢𝔱𝔰 🧲 (@PerthshireMags) September 14, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 20:30 (two years ago) link
I obviously love to hate her, but I gotta say, “reporting” news in this way (the teaser, the emojis) is gross pic.twitter.com/YAShb5eAV0— b (@redbethmond) October 23, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 23 October 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link
they wouldn't dare use them crass emojis if it was a report on Alec Baldwin perhaps, but when it is soldiers killing civilians it's fine.
― calzino, Saturday, 23 October 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link
If I could get just ten per cent of the population to understand the actual effect of clock-fiddling, it would be a major triumph. I doubt one in a thousand grasps it. But this does not stop them having strong opinions such as ‘I like the long evenings’. Crikey.— Peter Hitchens (@ClarkeMicah) October 29, 2021
probably one of his more harmless talking points, but it's more and more becoming impressive that he hasn't managed to bore himself to death in these recent years as he advances into premature senility.
― calzino, Saturday, 30 October 2021 02:01 (two years ago) link
A spat over a piece by an ex-ilxor, who is reviewing a book by another ex-ilxor.
This is exactly what I'm talking about.Here's a liberal commentator who likes to pontificate on the left's moral indecency, suggesting The Spectator soft soaping a fascist is somehow novel.What do you know! He's been repeatedly commissioned by them!https://t.co/IE4ASH4MUM pic.twitter.com/iMAKbyY959— Owen Jones 🌹 (@OwenJones84) November 29, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 November 2021 14:11 (two years ago) link
"My problem with this reaction is they pay for my holidays"
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 29 November 2021 14:19 (two years ago) link
my problem is i think it's ok to take money off fascists
― huile about oeuf (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 November 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link
It's only on the odd occasion, btw.
I know the intention is to be a sanctimonious prick but my very occasional book reviews have never stopped me from calling them out.— Dorian Lynskey (@Dorianlynskey) November 29, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 November 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link
Not to give their fash rags the veneer of moderation they’re using you for though.
― mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 29 November 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link
The reason The Spectator commissions centrists is so it can go "yeah fine we publish white supremacism and neo nazi apologism but we also publish liberals so that's balance, checkmate critics!"As the magazine's editor himself puts it: pic.twitter.com/MMbILobuWz— Owen Jones 🌹 (@OwenJones84) November 29, 2021
― mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 29 November 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link
OJ is running rings round both DL and Helen Lewis, you love to see it
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Monday, 29 November 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link
DL "I may not have referred to The Spectator by name when I have criticised them countless times"
how do you do that?!
― calzino, Monday, 29 November 2021 17:58 (two years ago) link
he used the code phrase "Jeremy Corbyn"
― huile about oeuf (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 November 2021 18:01 (two years ago) link
DL also published this today (posted on the JFK thread earlier) on the cow blog and you can see all the rooms in the racism factory by following this dickhead:
https://unherd.com/2021/11/oliver-stones-seductive-conspiracies/
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 November 2021 18:06 (two years ago) link
I know it's another "if Corbyn had won" but if he had I wonder whether the likes of unheard would exist or employ liberals to write for them when they'd need the stronger stuff.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 November 2021 18:09 (two years ago) link
It doesn't take Poirot to work out why liberal journalists might not zealously monitor your output so that they can make sure you feel sufficiently supported in your pet causes. Not least because maybe they have their own pet causes, which you in turn don't get involved in.— Helen Lewis (@helenlewis) November 29, 2021
― Nu-panique schnizzle (wins), Monday, 29 November 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link
Also most of these people were conspicuously silent when OJ was physically attacked by racists, when those racists were caught, and when those racists were convicted, despite all of these things being top news stories at the time.
― the thin blue lying (suzy), Monday, 29 November 2021 18:39 (two years ago) link
lol
Dorian helpfully picking this moment to remind us that he writes regularly for TWO far right publications https://t.co/g7T9gYnM8K pic.twitter.com/0EoduuadwJ— PolProf Wariotifo (@wariotifo) November 29, 2021
― mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 29 November 2021 18:58 (two years ago) link
if i was so pitifully bad at taking it i would simply ensure that i never dished it out
― huile about oeuf (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 November 2021 19:06 (two years ago) link
Interesting new publicity campaign from The Spectator pic.twitter.com/158Moiw6bI— Owen Jones 🌹 (@OwenJones84) December 1, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 11:33 (two years ago) link
DL has only just calmed down now, don't let him see this!
― calzino, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 11:37 (two years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFwt8kBXsAIreMo?format=jpg&name=large
Dickie Canine!
― calzino, Saturday, 4 December 2021 12:46 (two years ago) link
Gladstonian liberalism = the O.G. woke bullshit!
― calzino, Saturday, 4 December 2021 12:51 (two years ago) link
Is it April 1st?
― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 December 2021 13:06 (two years ago) link
By the way, Lyn$k3y's quite a regular in the library I work, I've never actually had any direct dealings with him myself but I've seen him around and, Jesus, what a miserable looking, joyless cunt. He used to mostly read rock biog stuff but I noticed the other day he had a whole lot of books on comets and asteroids and shit.
― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 December 2021 13:10 (two years ago) link
It'll be pictures of dinosaurs gazing haplessly at the arriving meteor next.
― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 December 2021 13:11 (two years ago) link
lol that's his next project
― calzino, Saturday, 4 December 2021 13:15 (two years ago) link
the dinosaurs gazing haplessly at the arriving brexit podcast was top stuff
― calzino, Saturday, 4 December 2021 13:17 (two years ago) link
dinosaurs meltosauruses
― calzino, Saturday, 4 December 2021 14:16 (two years ago) link
Errr, some of us do have resting bitch faces, you know. I've been drinking with DL a few times in a former life, and he was thoroughly affable and easy-going company.
― mike t-diva, Saturday, 4 December 2021 19:33 (two years ago) link
maybe working towards normalising fascism for two different bigoted far right-wing media outlets has taken it's toll on the poor dear.
― calzino, Saturday, 4 December 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link
Ok..
Someone I knew once went on a date with Sathnam and she was horrified when she returned because he spent the entire time talking via a puppet. https://t.co/8pxQZORInl— FrodoKolo (@FrodoKolo) December 5, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 5 December 2021 23:04 (two years ago) link
Darren Grimes is set to join GB News in 2022 following the departure of Andrew Neil and Simon McCoy. He'll be hosting a weekend show called ‘Real Britain'. https://t.co/iLj4Gbn7g9— Metro (@MetroUK) December 14, 2021
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 13:49 (two years ago) link
A Tory peer has spent boxing Day going at a 21 yo Leninist. Mad to watch.
Hi Daniel. I think Leninism is invidious. A murderous idea. So I think it worth countering. It’s definitely worth my time.— Daniel Finkelstein (@Dannythefink) December 26, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 26 December 2021 23:39 (two years ago) link
Day 3:
I don’t regard myself as anything of the sort, Daniel. As someone who suffered under the austerity you helped inflict, who saw people’s lives destroyed & cut short, I’m simply committed to ensuring that can never happen again and for everyone to have a dignified life https://t.co/v8LkyRkdHr— Daniel (@DanielEales) December 27, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 27 December 2021 13:35 (two years ago) link
Incredible content from Aaro to round out the year, this.
By the way (and here’s a complication) why is Prince Andrew ‘privileged’ over, say, me, when I envy nothing about his life or upbringing?— David Aaronovitch (@DAaronovitch) December 30, 2021
― mardheamac (gyac), Thursday, 30 December 2021 19:30 (two years ago) link
As a person paid to write for a living why would he understand what words mean?
― Khafre's clown (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 December 2021 20:13 (two years ago) link
it's tough at the top, eh? what a fuckwit. when he had a regular 10 minute opinion slot on R4 he said that women that talk about the inequities of western patriarchal society need to grow up because "they sound like students". Total fucking dickhead.
― calzino, Thursday, 30 December 2021 20:49 (two years ago) link
I see Giles Coren is at it again
― Number None, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 17:47 (two years ago) link
I am not surprised. Most people who report on politics in this country do not understand the subject, lacking the Marxist training which I had in my distant youth. They call Sir Keir ‘moderate’ because he is not Jeremy Corbyn. A fat lot they know.Jeremy Corbyn is, of course, a wild Leftist, a man of clenched-fist salutes, street protests and red banners who probably dreams of storming Buckingham Palace at the head of a detachment of Red Guards. But he is one of the obvious, old-fashioned sort, steam-powered, coal-fired. You can see him a mile off and defeat him with ease. Sir Keir is much more dangerous. His fanaticism is as smooth as the moisturiser he applies daily to his handsome face. It is designed for the age of the internet.
Jeremy Corbyn is, of course, a wild Leftist, a man of clenched-fist salutes, street protests and red banners who probably dreams of storming Buckingham Palace at the head of a detachment of Red Guards.
But he is one of the obvious, old-fashioned sort, steam-powered, coal-fired. You can see him a mile off and defeat him with ease. Sir Keir is much more dangerous. His fanaticism is as smooth as the moisturiser he applies daily to his handsome face. It is designed for the age of the internet.
P Hitchens in 2020 on Starmer. I don't why he's linked to it today other than he thinks it is a very prescient observation that has aged very well. At least he is funny like a clown.
― calzino, Sunday, 6 February 2022 09:06 (two years ago) link
That quote can't be real I must be hallucinating it.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 February 2022 09:28 (two years ago) link
"Corbyn was so easy to defeat" -- actually he has been far nearer having power than Starmer. He'd be shitting himself if Corbyn was still leader. The argument for re-nationalisation would be overwhelming.
The political class is very lucky that Corbyn had the EU problem to deal with.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 February 2022 09:32 (two years ago) link
also that he was only a thousand + votes away from forming a minority government in 2017 is something that seems to have completely bypassed the Hitch brane. But I think he's going senile tbh.
― calzino, Sunday, 6 February 2022 09:36 (two years ago) link
Really amused that Peter H thinks men applying moisturiser is some kind of tell in 2022.
― mardheamac (gyac), Sunday, 6 February 2022 10:07 (two years ago) link
well these handsome male politicians "in the age of the internet" (like Kieth lol) can't be having dry skin issues!
― calzino, Sunday, 6 February 2022 10:19 (two years ago) link
perhaps it's more about the age of HD televisions
― calzino, Sunday, 6 February 2022 10:20 (two years ago) link
that's not moisturiser it's glaze
― Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 February 2022 10:52 (two years ago) link
Peter Glaze
― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 6 February 2022 11:05 (two years ago) link
i have no wish to know whether he does that
― Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 February 2022 11:13 (two years ago) link
he seasons his face with a teaspoon of smoked paprika
― calzino, Sunday, 6 February 2022 11:33 (two years ago) link
hence his somewhat goulash appearance
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 6 February 2022 11:34 (two years ago) link
― Bastards of Fish (Tom D.), Sunday, 6 February 2022 11:48 (two years ago) link
also that he was only a thousand + votes away from forming a minority government in 2017 is something that seems to have completely bypassed the Hitch brane.
It has bypassed many brains to be fair.
― chap, Sunday, 6 February 2022 14:21 (two years ago) link
the Marxist training which I had in my distant youth
this is interesting (mildly) (very mildly) (to me alone)): back in the day i seem to recall PH denied he'd ever been a member of whichever marxist groupuscule it was
(it was the IS = the international socialism group, which became the swp and which his brother was also in, and i see that wikipedia now includes PH's membership as a fact, so either i'm misremembering the disavowment lol or he was feebly fibbing back then)
― mark s, Sunday, 6 February 2022 20:33 (two years ago) link
he's forgetting that he was on the trot wing. But some of the claims he makes about the where on the political spectrum of Blair/Starmer/Cameron suggests to me he has some form of dementia. And I don't mean it facetiously.
― calzino, Sunday, 6 February 2022 20:55 (two years ago) link
I didn't know he'd denied his Marxist heritage but his broken binaries very much indicate that you can't take the boy out of etc
― Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 February 2022 22:29 (two years ago) link
Also anybody wanna buy a copy of Socialist Worker?
― Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 February 2022 22:30 (two years ago) link
I think I've internalised that he's slightly different in some mysterious way to other right-wing conservative commentators, probably cos he often criticises NATO and takes alternative positions on post Soviet Russia. But he's still basically a very horrible idiot and often completely clueless!
― calzino, Sunday, 6 February 2022 23:02 (two years ago) link
it was the IS = the international socialism group, which became the swp and which his brother was also in
... as was Garry Bushell.
― Bastards of Fish (Tom D.), Sunday, 6 February 2022 23:10 (two years ago) link
indeed
(tho i don't think he's ever denied it)
― mark s, Sunday, 6 February 2022 23:30 (two years ago) link
doing Sun columns and nazi-monikered oi compilations keeps one honest, guv.
― calzino, Sunday, 6 February 2022 23:33 (two years ago) link
'Marxist training' is such a weird way of putting it - they like quoting someone attached to some form of BLM saying that.
― a hallan shaker loon (dowd), Monday, 7 February 2022 09:12 (two years ago) link
I must say that one of the last things I expected to see at a Scottish cup tie between Peterhead and Dundee was a banner reading 'Peter Hitchens Dark Blues'. pic.twitter.com/2ZFolrgJKY— Ruairidh MacLennan (@RuaMacLennan) February 14, 2022
Yes. Yes!
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 10:28 (two years ago) link
lool!
― calzino, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 10:31 (two years ago) link
obviously a dunderhead fan
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 11:14 (two years ago) link
Weird.
― since dozzell was a fixture (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 11:18 (two years ago) link
the great man is himself baffled by this
as by everything else
he's the waluigi chiles
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 11:36 (two years ago) link
he can't work out if they are mocking him or perhaps they've got strong opinions on the wretched imposition of British Summertime in Dundee.
― calzino, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 11:46 (two years ago) link
Not a pundit but a hilarious error.
One more for the ‘journalists really ought to study history’ file… pic.twitter.com/MWakgAdikd— Caroline Dodds Pennock (@carolinepennock) March 7, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 07:48 (two years ago) link
Thick as shit..
Yes, I don’t think rent controls work. You’ll find tens of other tweets I’ve written saying the same thing— Charlotte Gill (@CharlotteCGill) March 15, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 23:12 (two years ago) link
New mag just dropped.
The only thread uniting these writers is anti-systems politics (or, to put it another way, anti-liberalism). Not sure that's enough for a magazine. https://t.co/LASdPFi6zA— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) March 22, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 15:08 (two years ago) link
Can’t wait for the takes on this one, lads
"It's impossible to imagine such a thing in our country"President Vladimir Putin uses J K Rowling as an example of Western cynicism and "cancel culture", which he says is currently being aimed at Russia.Latest on Ukraine: https://t.co/XTFXr6HmAe📺 Sky 501 and YouTube pic.twitter.com/TyH9lddC5k— Sky News (@SkyNews) March 25, 2022
― mardheamac (gyac), Friday, 25 March 2022 12:52 (two years ago) link
"they hate us for our freedoms to terf"
― a spectre is haunting your mom (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 March 2022 14:54 (two years ago) link
“He may be an unpalatable demagogue, but at least Uncle Vova knows what a woman is!”
― mardheamac (gyac), Friday, 25 March 2022 15:22 (two years ago) link
Lots of death and destruction but the idea that Putin is sitting in a bunker reading "The Prisoner of Azkaban" all the while nodding his head and muttering, "Another banger. She just doesn't miss" won't leave me alone— William Paris (@WilliamMParis) March 25, 2022
― rob, Friday, 25 March 2022 15:23 (two years ago) link
When did Matthew Le Tissier start drinking the Kool-Aid?
― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 21:33 (two years ago) link
He's been an utter prick for at least a decade.
― lilcraigyboi (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 10:39 (two years ago) link
I knew that but he seems to have pivoted to full Icke recently.
― Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 13:07 (two years ago) link
Blame the pandemic. Or Ralph Hasenhüttl.
― Phil McCracken (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 13:20 (two years ago) link
Hahaha oh my fucking god pic.twitter.com/NBrzls4I8O— Tom Williams (@shirleymush) April 3, 2022
― Number None, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 17:43 (two years ago) link
in an increasingly troubled, confusing, violent world maybe it takes a man like Matt Le Tissier to really make sense of it all
― a spectre is haunting your mom (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 18:24 (two years ago) link
One nation under a mood.
Fairly graceless from Ed Sheeran to win his case and still moan like he's lost... Just a nation of whiners these days.— Harry Cole (@MrHarryCole) April 6, 2022
― nashwan, Friday, 8 April 2022 12:03 (two years ago) link
News!! I’m going to be a panellist on The News Desk with Tom Newton Dunn on Talk TV - News UK’s new TV channel.I’ll be on every Thursday from next week with Adam Boulton and Bim Afolami - with whom I am sure I will have some spirited debates…You can watch online or on TV.— Grace Blakeley (@graceblakeley) April 13, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 10:08 (two years ago) link
can we get a mod to take out the unnecessary "Right-Wing" qualifier in the title?
― a spectre is haunting your mom (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 April 2022 08:43 (two years ago) link
The Matt Le Tissier interview in The Times is, on the whole, maddening. But the way he describes himself as a non-conformist by *checks notes* talking about the fact he drinks Malibu and coke instead of lager is genuinely hilarious. pic.twitter.com/uIj4fybPHE— Felix Keith (@felixkeith) April 29, 2022
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 29 April 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link
Wow pic.twitter.com/c9JA228uhA— Simon A (@sdlezark) May 4, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 12:14 (one year ago) link
so many fucking piers and andrew marr shit on buses in London right now, feel like I'm in a Warren Ellis comic
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link
Andrew Marr, now UNSILENCED after all those years of being a silenced senior political correspondent and talkshow host
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 13:25 (one year ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FR6-jVsXEAEp8Z-?format=jpg&name=900x900
lol, Grace Blakeley's "strategic decision" to get on the Murdoch payroll to get a left-wing perspective out there is going very well.
― calzino, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link
I will have a quick scan of this piece later but Aaron made a judgement to welcome him etc.
That map of the ‘pro Putin infosphere’ including Zara Sultana, Diane Abbott, Jess Barnard, Jeremy Corbyn, Tribune and Novara Media, created by @paulmasonnews, is allegedly real. A wealth of emails/documents are included in this extraordinary piece. https://t.co/HPFvYYr9M9— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) June 8, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 08:14 (one year ago) link
oh I didn't realise the recipient of the Mason emails was a shady MI6 adjacent character. And I never realised Novara Media and Tribune were part of the pro-Putin Gallowayite-Williamsonite Terrorist Centre!
― calzino, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 08:44 (one year ago) link
"this is allegedly real" is a hard sentence to translate lol
― mark s, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 09:21 (one year ago) link
God this is just awful.
Final word on this for now. I know this might seem funny for some, but this is deeply scary behaviour that should never be allowed near politics. How on earth can working class people be political if journos are permitted to libel us and set intelligence agencies on us?— Jess Barnard (@JessicaLBarnard) June 8, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 09:43 (one year ago) link
anyone whoever participated with any "stoya come to athens" bantz or lampooned his "kieth advance the class struggle" post is now part of the “pro-Putin Info Sphere”
― calzino, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 11:19 (one year ago) link
Paul Mason is unwell.
― hello duckness my old friend (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 11:24 (one year ago) link
Right, you're on the list.
― Doodles Diamond (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 11:28 (one year ago) link
just to cool everyone's jets a teeny wee bit, the grayzone piece is co-authored by max blumenthal, who's been an oz katerji-level prick for years (and a vax sceptic)
(also son of clinton-adviser sidney blumenthal, who some will remember from the monica lewinsky hoohah lol)
― mark s, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 11:49 (one year ago) link
My point stands
― hello duckness my old friend (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 11:51 (one year ago) link
I don't think it really matters what krank sites are commenting on the Mason emails and what they are making of it, the important thing here is that it now seems from his own response that they are very likely a 100% legit.
― calzino, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 11:59 (one year ago) link
It’s disturbing and I trust the police will investigate thoroughly. https://t.co/xCPDXE74eh— Oliver Kamm (@OliverKamm) June 8, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 12:12 (one year ago) link
kickstarter to huis clos all these fvcks in a room far from the rest of us
― mark s, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 12:18 (one year ago) link
Give the guy a break, constructing byzantine conspiracy theories about your comrades and sending them to secret service ghouls is clearly just a tribute to Orwell
― Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 12:37 (one year ago) link
agent Mason aka the Hammer of the Trots
― calzino, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 12:53 (one year ago) link
at least we now know that havana syndrome exists, no other scientific way to explain his brainstate imo
― mark s, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 13:48 (one year ago) link
well he did say in his recent campaign declaration to run as a Labour MP that he's from a family of weavers
― calzino, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link
look at me, proud ancestry.com weaver Masons - look at my dynamic mindmap!
― calzino, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 14:10 (one year ago) link
unimaginative prompt but results aren't badhttps://i.postimg.cc/bY5Z7s90/Screenshot-20220608-151658-Chrome.jpg
― Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link
Mason has rather gone off the deep end in recent times, suggesting that even @OwenJones84 and @michaeljswalker were pushing Putin talking points on Ukraine, Israel and NATO.pic.twitter.com/7FhwLfBcK5— Alan MacLeod (@AlanRMacLeod) June 8, 2022
― calzino, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 14:23 (one year ago) link
He's found a new stick to beat his enemies with, he's going to get some use out of it.
― a hallan shaker loon (dowd), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 16:13 (one year ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FU4BBiaWQAAyWph?format=png&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUxyRXjWIAIPkfi?format=jpg&name=large
the quite touching mutual respect between Mason and one of his comrades from the *100% independent* "home of online investigations" Bellingcat
― calzino, Friday, 10 June 2022 10:35 (one year ago) link
As I think I've mentioned before, the only newspaper website we can access where I work is the Telegraph, which is wall-to-wall British right wing pundits of course. When it comes to true swivel-eyed loons though it's hard to top Allister Heath:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/15/britain-ruins-thanks-failed-dogmas-permanent-leftist-elite/
― Doodles Diamond (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2022 12:29 (one year ago) link
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Author%20photos/Allister%20Heath%20Aug%202021-small.png?imwidth=100https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Author%20photos/Allister%20Heath%20Aug%202021-small.png?imwidth=100https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Author%20photos/Allister%20Heath%20Aug%202021-small.png?imwidth=100https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Author%20photos/Allister%20Heath%20Aug%202021-small.png?imwidth=100https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Author%20photos/Allister%20Heath%20Aug%202021-small.png?imwidth=100https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Author%20photos/Allister%20Heath%20Aug%202021-small.png?imwidth=100https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Author%20photos/Allister%20Heath%20Aug%202021-small.png?imwidth=100
hmm, that reads like a load of crypto-fascist nonsense about "the enemy within", shurely shum mishtake?
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 16 June 2022 12:44 (one year ago) link
The guy's a fanatic.
― Doodles Diamond (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2022 12:52 (one year ago) link
"to wrestle power from acronym-wielding experts"
yes, let's listen to intellectual heavyweights like Michael Gove instead
― calzino, Thursday, 16 June 2022 13:10 (one year ago) link
talking of crypto-fascism I used to work with someone who looked just like a blonde haired version of him and his surname was Goering!
― calzino, Thursday, 16 June 2022 13:14 (one year ago) link
Why do these people always look like their human skin is too itchy & uncomfortable and they are looking forward to getting home and taking it off?
― Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 16 June 2022 13:16 (one year ago) link
xp emphasis very much on the "fasicst" part of "crypto-fascist", in fact "crypto" is probably entirely redundant!
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 16 June 2022 13:18 (one year ago) link
"crypto" as in bellowing non-stp abt the ponzi schemes all normal social technologies are being replaced by
― mark s, Thursday, 16 June 2022 13:20 (one year ago) link
fascism, but with added JPEGs of poorly drawn cartoon monkeys
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 16 June 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link
― Doodles Diamond (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2022 13:50 (one year ago) link
Remember this pompous ass? I could point out that Carry On Up the Khyber was literally on last week and The Sweeney is on permanently on one or other channel but Simon Heffer probably only has a black and white 15 inch Rediffusion telly with two buttons - one for BBC 1 and one for the independent channel.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/tvs-hypocritical-trigger-warnings-reveal-hidden-double-standard/
― Doodles Diamond (Tom D.), Monday, 20 June 2022 09:57 (one year ago) link
when even Bellingcat are describing him as a "Walter Mitty idiot" Private Eye have taken Spymaster Mason's web of internal security threats at face value, lol even referring to him as "left-wing journalist". Someone suggested it's probably Cohen or Wheen who wrote it. Some of the bits about Grayzone might be valid criticism, but all journalistic cred died in the first paragraph. I stopped reading the Eye yonks ago because the print is so small - it's a struggle even with reading glasses. Not been missing much it seems.
― calzino, Monday, 20 June 2022 14:24 (one year ago) link
Not renewing my long-held PE subscription because it's got really TERFy over the last couple of years.
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 20 June 2022 14:26 (one year ago) link
Imagine being this fucking ignorant and not embarrassed about it at all?
This week, Dorian announces he’d assumed “Neoliberalism” was just a boo-word, a slur hurled by dumb socialists because how could one word apply to both Pinochet and Obama? Now, having read books by other smart people, he realises it’s not only real but ubiquitous and dominant. pic.twitter.com/4OuuSdwIfS— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) June 27, 2022
― commonly known by his nickname, "MadBum" (gyac), Monday, 27 June 2022 09:26 (one year ago) link
Thank you Flying Rodent for listening to these so we don't have to. Not that we had to, or wanted to, but 30 seconds to read a summary is fine.
― Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 27 June 2022 09:48 (one year ago) link
perhaps they should have learned this at least 10-20 years ago lol. To misquote Lou Reed: you are going get done in public when you are growing up in public with your pants down.
― calzino, Monday, 27 June 2022 11:42 (one year ago) link
perhaps pretending to know fuck all about what they've been podcasting, writing books and Unherd/Spectator/NS pieces about for years is a clever ploy to get more clicks than they'd otherwise get. It might work in the short term but it renders everything else they've ever wrote as the work of ignorant imbeciles!
― calzino, Monday, 27 June 2022 14:19 (one year ago) link
this dynamic duo, with a history of dismissing people who refer to "neoliberalism" as ignorant lefty plebs who lack nuance, unlike smartest balds in the room like them.
― calzino, Monday, 27 June 2022 14:29 (one year ago) link
A lot of ppl also say that grifter is just a boo-word meaninglessly applied to anyone you don’t like but now they can listen to this podcast and realise it’s not only real but ubiquitous and dominant
― Wiggum Dorma (wins), Monday, 27 June 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link
Absolutely obsessed with this tweet
Oh and there’s also a doubling of something odd called ‘scromiting’. That’s screaming and vomiting which lasts for weeks on end, with no treatment. A result of long term use of high potency cannabis.— Eve Simmons (@EveSimmns) July 2, 2022
― Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 08:47 (one year ago) link
I'm poscromiting as I tpye tihs
(posting, scraemnig & vmoiting)
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 09:01 (one year ago) link
her following up with complaints about being "burnt at the stake" after some people laughed at her on Twitter was also *chef's kiss*
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 09:08 (one year ago) link
christ how old is she? she obviously never watched brasseye
― calzino, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 11:53 (one year ago) link
Mail writers are all born in their mid 40s
― bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link
Morning pic.twitter.com/3g1mKgPOhS— Roland Smith 🇺🇦 (@rolandmcs) July 7, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 July 2022 07:35 (one year ago) link
Gives him time to get the treehouse built I guess
― I was horrified to discover the gap between rich & poor was so extreme (Matt #2), Thursday, 7 July 2022 08:14 (one year ago) link
Oops wrong thread
I'm sure he'll be a RWP shortly, if not immediately, if not he's one already.
― Mark G, Thursday, 7 July 2022 08:30 (one year ago) link
Just a massive failure of character. Novara are well funded, he doesn't need the money.
Are you finding a way to “cleverly” make socialist arguments to conservatives, or are you legitimating arguments that are not only utterly grim but are having extensive effects in the here and now? pic.twitter.com/ayg1hcLjmZ— Tom Gann (@Tom_Gann) July 19, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 09:03 (one year ago) link
itll go herder*
*unherder
― mark s, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 11:08 (one year ago) link
Hmm
Jesus Christ, Terry. pic.twitter.com/LT1qfOscNv— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) July 19, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link
is it the heat or is this actual gibberish? does he always write like this?
i don't expect marxism from unherd but i do expect some kind of (reactionary) thesis - i can't find any politics here at all just a bunch of words
― Left, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link
solid enough burn on prince andrew though
― Left, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link
At moments like this, I like to remind myself of Lionel Trilling's distinction between 'fluent' and 'articulate'. Terry, like Boris, has been fluent for too long without remotely articulating anything.
the next tweet nails it
― calzino, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link
👍
With respect D: you 😊— Omid Djalili (@omid9) July 20, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 July 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link
yeah been very nice to see Omid come out on the side of good, wonder if appearing on Alexei Sayle's podcast was in some way a catalyst
― Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 21 July 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link
In fairness, shouldn’t articles by @JGForsyth promoting Sunak for Prime Minister not carry a disclaimer?🤔‘At university together, best man at my wedding, godparents to children… etc, etc?’ https://t.co/ilrgbuziKu— Nadine Dorries (@NadineDorries) July 22, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 22 July 2022 14:06 (one year ago) link
Telegraph proprietor Fred Barclay arriving in court today, where he is is accused by his ex-wife of failing to pay a £100m divorce settlement pic.twitter.com/uTuxbqkgby— Matthew Garrahan (@MattGarrahan) July 28, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 July 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link
fucking state of those trousers!
― calzino, Thursday, 28 July 2022 15:58 (one year ago) link
Better dead than red
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 28 July 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link
"I am in the red"
― Mark G, Thursday, 28 July 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link
spot the pattern : - not paying divorce settlement- not paying any uk taxno wonder boris loves this paper so much.
― mark e, Thursday, 28 July 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link
I’m totally fascinated by the question of what it’s like to be the author of one of these “having no food, heating or electricity is good, actually!” pieces. Are they cynically cashing in? Totally self deluded? Classic British masochists? pic.twitter.com/NQlHfESh6l— Marika (@MarikaRose) August 18, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 August 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link
Which reminds me that we haven't seen anyone smirking about how birth rates supposedly spike 9 months after a blackout. (They actually tend to go down.)
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 18 August 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link
microwaving tinned spaghetti hoops from the foodbank before you run out of power is a hell of an aphrodisiac
― calzino, Thursday, 18 August 2022 19:38 (one year ago) link
Ye gods, could Irish right-wing pundits actually be worse? You won't be able to read this because it's paywalled but you really don't want to anyway, believe me.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/08/18/osullivans-law-strikes-back-publishing-worlds-woke-takeover/
― Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 August 2022 20:25 (one year ago) link
The Daily Telegraph in general seems to be maniacally fixated on two subjects: "woke" and the SNP/Nicola Sturgeon.
― Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 August 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link
... and to prove my point, this absolutely insane column by leading Brexit bonehead David Frost. Again paywalled but, take my word for it, the SNP should be printing this up and dropping from aircraft over Scotland come the next referendum.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/08/19/snp-has-defeated-not-appeased/
― Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Friday, 19 August 2022 12:19 (one year ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/aug/21/journalists-at-rightwing-daily-express-set-to-strike-over-pay
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 21 August 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link
sure I guess
― Left, Sunday, 21 August 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link
the tories will be fixing to defund journalism degrees next, you could earn more being a floor layer or a shit shoveler (same skillset) so what's the point ... etc.
― calzino, Sunday, 21 August 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link
old enough to be unconvinced journalism degrees have been at all good for journalism
(not that the previous route up thru the office from local paper glue-boy to multinational editor-in-chief will ever be accessible again either)
― mark s, Sunday, 21 August 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link
People who had safe reporter jobs in local rags up to late 20th century, like doing the match reports for local football team or roving reporter on the crown green bowling league or whatever. And getting a comfortable wage for doing it. Shit, it must all seem like an impossible dream now.
― calzino, Sunday, 21 August 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link
come on guys, don't be down, there's absolutely a future for journalism in the UK, as part of a revolving door buddy system with finance and the conservative party
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 21 August 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link
the editor at my local rag - Wayne Anker probably doesn't have a safe job. But nominative determinism and all that, he has a big future in the game.
― calzino, Sunday, 21 August 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link
just realised i had somehow been recently unfollowed from the shropshire star on twitter, another grim sign of decline
― mark s, Sunday, 21 August 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link
lest we forget:
County councillor in resurfacing row https://t.co/cGVpTXJI7M pic.twitter.com/8J7dVLzG2T— SHROPSHIRE (@DailySHROPSHIRE) August 14, 2019
― mark s, Sunday, 21 August 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link
awestruck that Wayne Anker is real
― seo layer (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link
it's real
― calzino, Sunday, 21 August 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link
but honestly, that really is his name
― calzino, Sunday, 21 August 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link
i googled him!
― seo layer (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 August 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link
OMGLOL
― Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Sunday, 21 August 2022 23:06 (one year ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Feyv_A4WIAA86ny?format=jpg&name=900x900
― calzino, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 13:51 (one year ago) link
Imagine if you will being a student and paying money to see Mike Graham talk
If you thought removing miniature #Bounty bars from Celebrations was distressing, then just wait until you see the world’s shittest selection box. pic.twitter.com/2h7wqZPREw— Miffy (@miffythegamer) November 3, 2022
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 4 November 2022 09:00 (one year ago) link
improve the quality of UK discourse with this one simple IED
― wearing wraparounds (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 November 2022 09:05 (one year ago) link
Darren Grimes uncancelled I see?
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 4 November 2022 11:06 (one year ago) link
Not quite a pundit, more a right-wing fantasist/grifter, I suppose.
https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/11/dutch-ban-british-conspiracy-theorist-david-icke-from-entering-nl/
― MaresNest, Friday, 4 November 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link
remember when his views were like oh my god can you believe anyone thinks like this and not semi-mainstream
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 4 November 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link
Hate that twitter makes me aware of worms like Lee Harpin..
a) this call didn't happen b) rejection by friends/family/your community is the single most painful thing about being on the Jewish left, and has brought me to my lowest ever moments. Is pointing that out supposed to be some kind of gotcha? https://t.co/q8WYFej4Hi— Rivkah Brown (@RivkahBrown) November 24, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 24 November 2022 21:25 (one year ago) link
Lee Harpin used to be an Edgy Style Mag contributor. Always a total bell-end.
― put a VONC on it (suzy), Thursday, 24 November 2022 22:01 (one year ago) link
Yeah in a crowded field his behaviour has been particularly disgusting these past few days.
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 25 November 2022 10:59 (one year ago) link
creepy Lee Harpin pic.twitter.com/6IYteDCEza— wariotifo (@wariotifo) November 25, 2022
he's got a very *colourful* cv
― calzino, Saturday, 26 November 2022 09:10 (one year ago) link
There’s quite a bit I could say here…
― put a VONC on it (suzy), Saturday, 26 November 2022 15:06 (one year ago) link
Really needs to be a 77 version of this thread
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 26 November 2022 15:41 (one year ago) link
It's not about age, that's someone who grifts.
“A society that no longer understands the Bible is a society that will struggle to commune with its past – or with itself.” Madeline Grant is 29. pic.twitter.com/y0K1dLcbrL— Mic Wright (@brokenbottleboy) November 30, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 09:58 (one year ago) link
Madeleine Grant is the daughter of Sally Jones, and mum’s a Tory too.
― put a VONC on it (suzy), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 12:05 (one year ago) link
You probably won't be able to read this but it's a Telegraph writer waxing nostalgic about growing up during the Troubles and having lots of friendly British soldiers patrolling the streets. Great bunch o' lads, so they were.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2022/12/09/growing-troubles-quite-looking-forward-seeing-soldiers-streets/
― Gulf VAR Syndrome (Tom D.), Friday, 9 December 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/dec/18/jeremy-clarkson-condemned-meghan-column-the-sun
― Gulf VAR Syndrome (Tom D.), Monday, 19 December 2022 11:41 (one year ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmQsnmtXkAADMDT?format=jpg&name=small
imagine watching Mark Dolan present Balls of Steel in 2005 and someone telling you that it would actually be the least worst thing he was ever involved in
― soref, Thursday, 12 January 2023 10:55 (one year ago) link
A Celebration of Dissent hosted by Marc Bolan.
― A Drunk Man Looks At Partick Thistle (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 January 2023 10:58 (one year ago) link
the god-given right of any Englishman to drive their Mini directly into a tree
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 12 January 2023 11:08 (one year ago) link
I'm too sexy for my steering
― the billy sherwood of trad jazz (Matt #2), Thursday, 12 January 2023 11:14 (one year ago) link
He wasn't driving, in a situation which acts as a kind of metaphor fro the plight of Prince Harry, he was being driven by an American woman of dubious ethnicity.
― A Drunk Man Looks At Partick Thistle (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 January 2023 11:16 (one year ago) link
Never quite sure if Sir Christopher Chope is real or a Twitter pretend thing
― fetter, Thursday, 12 January 2023 11:24 (one year ago) link
Right Said Fred still on the anti-vaxx thing I'm assuming? Those types get sadder every day, everyone else has moved on...
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 12 January 2023 11:36 (one year ago) link
its becoming clear that Andrew Bridgen is making moves for that post MP career as a GB News presenter.
― mark e, Thursday, 12 January 2023 11:52 (one year ago) link
Climate change seems to be the next big battleground.
― A Drunk Man Looks At Partick Thistle (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 January 2023 11:53 (one year ago) link
Whatever else happens, half of this treehouse meeting will be spent chastising Harry and Meghan for dissenting.
― nashwan, Thursday, 12 January 2023 12:02 (one year ago) link
When chatting ignorant and dangerous shit gets you the most attention you've had in years it must be very hard for some people to give it up
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 January 2023 12:10 (one year ago) link
just a shame that Brendon O'Neill and his massive forehead were unavailable
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 12 January 2023 13:14 (one year ago) link
The forehead is always available.
― nashwan, Thursday, 12 January 2023 13:23 (one year ago) link
got some front on him that guy
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 12 January 2023 13:27 (one year ago) link
right said forehead
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 12 January 2023 13:28 (one year ago) link
Kind of mildly fascinated by Andrew Lawrence, who started out as a pretty good* character comic on Radio 4, then had a few meltdowns on social media and decided he wasn't getting gigs on TV because feminism - the real reason seems to be that the freaky furious weasely "character" was in fact his genuine personality. Since then he has made a complete fool of himself on Twitter, saying appalling things, having gigs cancelled, inevitably making this part of his act and finally finding a home with the Andrew Doyle crowd. He does these videos in character as a thug in which you are supposed to agree with him, Jonathan Pie style, but the thug "character" is played with open contempt for the kind of people he's portraying. He seems to be counting on his target audience to not twig this. *may not be pretty good, I listened to the series once, 13 years ago.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 12 January 2023 13:29 (one year ago) link
The lesson is, cancel comedy
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 January 2023 14:29 (one year ago) link
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, January 12, 2023 11:36 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
they are now on traffic reduction schemes... which is even more WTF?
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2023/jan/10/why-do-traffic-reduction-schemes-attract-so-many-conspiracy-theories
A march against the traffic filters plan took place on Sunday in Oxford under the banner of Not Our Future, a new group led by 80s pop duo turned anti-vaxxers Right Said Fred
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Thursday, 12 January 2023 15:32 (one year ago) link
A woman in my work, who seems prone to conspiracy theories, was going on about this thing in Oxford too. It's all about how "they" are now using the false climate emergency to control us.
― A Drunk Man Looks At Partick Thistle (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 January 2023 15:43 (one year ago) link
Piers Corbyn is involved. Inevitably.
― A Drunk Man Looks At Partick Thistle (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 January 2023 15:44 (one year ago) link
it's the latest thing for right-wing psychos to get involved in apparently, as the article mentions Oxford councillors have been getting death threats as a rsult of the conspiracy theories about the traffic reduction scheme there. Where I live in Haringey it seems to be the sole issue that Conservative councillors campaign on- the right to drive your car wherever you damn well like, regardless of the consequences.
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 12 January 2023 16:19 (one year ago) link
of course it should be said that local government may not always proceed by de jure conspiracy but i've little sympathy for local councillors protesting that any benefits that accrue to them thru their jobs are purely accidental and unwelcome
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link
and the tone of some of that Graun article deliberately plays to the evasive distinction
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:19 (one year ago) link
A snapshot of the current obsessions of Daily Telegraph columnists.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture-wars/
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Monday, 30 January 2023 16:02 (one year ago) link
... and that's just this month's batch.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Monday, 30 January 2023 16:03 (one year ago) link
Probably behind a paywall but the headline should suffice.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/09/scotland-has-become-deeply-sinister-country/
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, 10 March 2023 11:36 (one year ago) link
what with the wulvers and the loch ness monster
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 10 March 2023 11:37 (one year ago) link
become?
― giant bat fucker (gyac), Friday, 10 March 2023 11:38 (one year ago) link
Article written by useless Blairite Scottish Labour cunt cum British Right-Wing Pundit Tom Harris who is still boohoing about losing his seat to the SNP.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, 10 March 2023 11:41 (one year ago) link
(xp) LOL, true tho.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, 10 March 2023 11:42 (one year ago) link
cunt cum
striking imagery, etc
― Very Sad 2 Second ago in Chicago (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 10 March 2023 14:50 (one year ago) link
The expression ‘turbo cancer’ has entered common parlance since the rollout of the vaccine, so whilst its poss that cancers r not ‘caused’ by the vaccine they maybe exacerbated by it.
The expression ‘turbo cancer’ has entered common parlance since the rollout of the vaccine, so whilst its poss that cancers r not ‘caused’ by the vaccine they maybe exacerbated by it. @thatsnotmine125 @TheFreds https://t.co/UdCJnVHAtq— Richard Fairbrass (@RealFairbrass) March 20, 2023
― soref, Monday, 20 March 2023 13:59 (one year ago) link
The expression "wasteman" has entered common parlance in the last 20 years so it's possible that there are men who are literally made of waste
― satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 March 2023 14:04 (one year ago) link
I really am surprised as how disappointed I've been with right said fred of all people over the last 7 years
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Monday, 20 March 2023 14:57 (one year ago) link
Don't Talk Just Kiss
― satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 March 2023 15:03 (one year ago) link
Refreshing that nearly all of the replies to that tweet are rightly ridiculing him
― groovypanda, Monday, 20 March 2023 15:37 (one year ago) link
I've come to the conclusion that Allister Heath and Ross Clark are the two most batshit columnists at the Daily Telegraph - amongst fierce competition it must be saud. This little pearl is from the latter's column on how "Suella Braverman could be the most successful home secretary in recent history":
... deep within the attacks on her and the Government’s Illegal Migration Bill lies the assumption that Rwandans are incapable of providing a safe, civilised environment in which to process asylum applications and a home where genuine refugees can rebuild their lives. True, Rwanda experienced a genocide within living memory...
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Monday, 20 March 2023 16:30 (one year ago) link
turbo wasteman
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 20 March 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link
Almost as if there's a metric for saying the louder you like the more effective the outcome
― satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 March 2023 16:59 (one year ago) link
xp v steve coogan municipal swimming pool security vibes there
― oscar bravo, Monday, 20 March 2023 20:55 (one year ago) link
I found the guy that sketch was based on recently, he was one of the bird curators at London Zoo in Molly Dineen's The Ark documentary. Had to be based on him, there's no way he couldn't have been. Anyway yeah
― imago, Monday, 20 March 2023 22:42 (one year ago) link
I'm always a bit intrigued at some of the absurd names of journalists on the Telegraph-Spectator spectrum. I mean, Sophia Money-Coutts - it's like a parody name that even Private Eye would consider too obvious. And then I ventured across a piece on 'woke' in the Spectator by a journalist named Panda La Terriere. Panda La Terriere, for God's sake! I googled her, she's apparently the great-granddaughter of Evelyn Waugh, so keeping the right-wing bigotry all in the family I guess. And no surprise, Money-Coutts is indeed a member of the Coutts banking dynasty.
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 01:57 (one year ago) link
Sunday Times culture section in a mess.
pic.twitter.com/jaRYqNPJv1— Judy Blume (@judyblume) April 16, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 April 2023 12:48 (one year ago) link
In a Spectator interview published today, historian David Starkey offers a novel take on the "do you have any black friends?" question 🥴 pic.twitter.com/XWsfPsrQXg— Sunny Hundal (@sunny_hundal) May 5, 2023
― groovypanda, Friday, 5 May 2023 16:04 (eleven months ago) link
"not openly racist to uber drivers" is the best defense he can muster, yes this sounds about right.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 May 2023 16:26 (eleven months ago) link
Spectator journalist Taki Theodoracopulos to face trial for alleged attempted rape in 2009 https://t.co/K1i9EzipYM— The Guardian (@guardian) May 10, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 May 2023 16:09 (eleven months ago) link
good
― contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 May 2023 16:12 (eleven months ago) link
Not sure he classes as a pundit but this is straight up hilarious
Most of you have never shadow-boxed 10 rounds in a 200-degree sauna while listening to Tyrese as your workout music.Then you have the audacity to wonder why you don’t get any pussy. pic.twitter.com/wfHtfXOS3G— Andrew Tate (@Cobratate) May 13, 2023
― groovypanda, Saturday, 13 May 2023 18:14 (eleven months ago) link
"I am a good tipper"
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 13 May 2023 18:16 (eleven months ago) link
I've said before that this guy is insane but this guy is insane.
In a world where followers of Gramsci have seized control of virtually all institutions, winning elections or referenda isn’t enough. The blob must be defeated.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/24/woke-blobs-final-triumph-near/
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 May 2023 10:23 (ten months ago) link
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Author%20photos/Allister%20Heath%20Aug%202021-xlarge.pnghttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Author%20photos/Allister%20Heath%20Aug%202021-xlarge.pnghttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Author%20photos/Allister%20Heath%20Aug%202021-xlarge.pnghttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Author%20photos/Allister%20Heath%20Aug%202021-xlarge.png
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 May 2023 10:24 (ten months ago) link
reminded me of this all-timer which he at least hasn't deleted (probably can't work out how)
Kwasi Kwarteng's Budget is a moment in history that will radically transform Britain https://t.co/w20tgpctDE— Allister Heath (@AllisterHeath) September 23, 2022
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 25 May 2023 10:42 (ten months ago) link
what's his take on gramsci? I assume he thinks mussolini was right but I thought all the intellectual right wingers wanted to be good gramscians these days. is that what's going on here or has he just become part of the pantheon of evil alongside hegel and adorno and other unlikely pioneers of wokeness?
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 11:07 (ten months ago) link
I believe Gramsci's concept of hegemony - which opens up marxism to analysing cultural aspects of society as well as economics* - is useful for right wingers to push their narrative of "cultural marxism" so it makes sense he'd be a figure of hate.
*I have no idea if this is correct but I think it's the rationale
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 25 May 2023 11:18 (ten months ago) link
has he just become part of the pantheon of evil alongside hegel and adorno and other unlikely pioneers of wokeness?
Bingo.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 May 2023 11:20 (ten months ago) link
well that's boring. just more of the same old conspiracy mush like they turned hegel's dialectic into (which is something conservatives who really did care about the western philosophical tradition could actually work with, or through, or however it is)
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 11:49 (ten months ago) link
We're talking hacks, not people who even pretend to have ideas
― two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:00 (ten months ago) link
Even they couldn't deny Weltgeist is with China now anyway
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:11 (ten months ago) link
Labour parliamentary candidate says this
The world is not listening.Sadly, the international community are captured by Militant far left campaign groups who have through bad policy, inflicted on the people of Yemen a permanent state of poverty of war.Successive UN Special Envoys have tragically all failed #Yemen. https://t.co/d0e6UymrmQ— Graham Jones xMP (@GrahamJones_MP) May 25, 2023
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:15 (ten months ago) link
trolling
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:16 (ten months ago) link
or gaslighting, or dancing on graves, or something
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:19 (ten months ago) link
at least it's not something you say intending to convince anyone, it's like a flex
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:21 (ten months ago) link
A form of political gaslighting like the "woke left blob elites" stuff, intended to create a sense of constant threat to real western values
― two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:25 (ten months ago) link
re gramsci: the US wingnut thesis -- as developed by william s. lind and others, re "cultural marxism" etc -- is that the blob has developed the techniques of saul alinsky, a chicago-based "community organiser" who wrote abt gramsci in the 60s or 70s (largely misunderstanding him IMO but that's by the bye), effecting the fabled "long march through the institutions" (marcuse quoting mao? who tf knows) which e.g. delivered obama as president
a small but growing number of uk wingnuts are these days very plugged into this circuit (hence this dweeb wetting himself abt meatball ron)
is it trolling? i mean it's annoying bcz shite being pumped into the plumbing is annoying, but there's a good case these ppl are by now simply talking to one another
― mark s, Thursday, 25 May 2023 13:14 (ten months ago) link
This guy is definitely not trolling he is just a swivel eyed zealot.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 May 2023 13:19 (ten months ago) link
There's no clear distinction between repeating your narrative and "belief" imo. This is rhetoric not philosophy
― two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 May 2023 13:23 (ten months ago) link
pic.twitter.com/TN3hM09L3O— Mike Graham 🇬🇧 (@Iromg) June 14, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 12:27 (ten months ago) link
Douglas Murray's perfectly level headed response to the report into racism and sexism in English cricket (just be glad it's paywalled).
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/01/the-left-now-wants-utter-abolition-of-britain-as-we-know-it/
― Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Monday, 3 July 2023 15:50 (nine months ago) link
“Come off it, anyone would be treated like that if they wanted sex with younger person, even if he wasn’t a minor!” I hear you type already. Really? While reading the latest from the Sun’s political editor, Harry Cole, about the “bombshell claims,” I recalled the time he tweeted excitedly about being in a coffee shop full of “jailbait”, and a gym full of “sixth form girls” (16-18 year olds). When I watched commentator Rod Liddle on BBC Newsnight defending the newspaper for behaving “impeccably” throughout their reporting in the public interest, I recalled his article recalling that he didn’t become a teacher because “I could not remotely conceive of not trying to shag the kids.”Over on Jacob Rees Mogg’s show on GBNews, Kelvin McKenzie defended the Sun for its campaigning journalism on Edwards’ case, despite the fact that while he was editor of the Sun he paid a 16 year old Samantha Fox to pose topless, publishing it on Page 3 of his newspaper. Over on TalkTV their International Editor Isabel Oakeshott discussed the “extraordinary parallels” between Edwards and Philip Schofield, although she didn’t notice the parallels with regular TalkTV guest and paper reviewer Simon Danczuk, who was offered the job after resigning from the Labour Party following the revelation that he had been sending explicit text messages to a 17 year old girl. Unlike the Huw Edwards scandal, all of these involved minors, yet few have received the extensive and venomous vitriol or professional repercussions that Edwards have. Indeed, they’re regarded as suitable, independent voices to comment on his case. They are all heterosexual.
https://huw.substack.com/p/a-sordid-scandal
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 July 2023 12:09 (nine months ago) link
the Huw Lemmy substack article is really excellent. absolutely clarified some important things for me
― vexingvexillologist, Monday, 17 July 2023 17:54 (nine months ago) link
😱😱😱
GB News presenter Dan Wootton used multiple fake identities to trick and bribe scores of men into revealing compromising sexual material.The victims included members of the public, his own colleagues and a senior executive at News UKhttps://t.co/qzux8U19uN— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) July 17, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 July 2023 21:57 (nine months ago) link
This story hasn't exactly set the heather on fire yet
― Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 08:58 (nine months ago) link
Establishment media p likely to just ignore anything coming from the byline times, I'd think.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 09:00 (nine months ago) link
Don't know enough about byline times.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 09:02 (nine months ago) link
Oh I didn't mean they weren't credible, just that they're a self-proclaimed leftist news thing and that by itself means the establishment is likely to disregard.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 09:08 (nine months ago) link
What the Wehrmacht accomplishes in 1939-40 is one of most extraordinary feats of arms in human history. It’s increasingly unhelpful that this is the sole prism by which to understand threats to European security. pic.twitter.com/V0xiYsuPH6— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) July 30, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 31 July 2023 06:23 (eight months ago) link
I mostly get all my bullshit ww2 takes from P Hitch these days says Bas!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 31 July 2023 07:40 (eight months ago) link
Important that David Baddiel now becomes a mainstay of this thread, I think:
https://nitter.net/I_amMukhtar/status/1686303796891103232
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:45 (eight months ago) link
he's such a moron, because he did blackface 30 years ago and was shellacked on twitter for it - the greater meaning of this is all white ppl are racist.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:58 (eight months ago) link
Can definitely see this cunt benn given some sort of government role if Starmer wins the next election.
― Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 14:08 (eight months ago) link
I’ve seen a few Centrist Conversations about this and apparently it’s Baddiel’s detractors who are bullies?
― steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 14:25 (eight months ago) link
kind of incredible that david baddiel has just decided that he wants to be a public intellectual so we all just have to get out of the way and let him do it despite him being one of the uk's dumbest, most self-centred pricks
and in this media environment that's really saying something
― come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:25 (eight months ago) link
in case we missed this seismic baddiel news from earlier in the week:
David Baddiel is to write a book about masculinity entitled The Male Gaze.His extended essay will complete a trilogy of extended books following Jews Don’t Count, which tackled antisemitism, and The God Desire, on atheism and religionHe said the starting point for the title would be that men can both objectify women’s bodies and respect their minds.Revealing his plans in a major interview with The Times, Baddiel said: ‘It’s possible that men can hold two thoughts in their head. So men can, for essentially libidinous purposes, imagine and see women in this way, while not denying their basic humanity.‘Obviously women need to be CEOs and judges and politicians and prime ministers. Is it contradictory to also think, "I am interested in that woman physically"? Because I can’t help that interest. That’s part of being a heterosexual male.‘It doesn’t mean that I see her only as a body. I actually am listening to her as well and think that she should be capable of everything that a man is capable of. The problem is that those two things feel contradictory and, yes, I guess that is what I would like to write about.’
His extended essay will complete a trilogy of extended books following Jews Don’t Count, which tackled antisemitism, and The God Desire, on atheism and religion
He said the starting point for the title would be that men can both objectify women’s bodies and respect their minds.
Revealing his plans in a major interview with The Times, Baddiel said: ‘It’s possible that men can hold two thoughts in their head. So men can, for essentially libidinous purposes, imagine and see women in this way, while not denying their basic humanity.
‘Obviously women need to be CEOs and judges and politicians and prime ministers. Is it contradictory to also think, "I am interested in that woman physically"? Because I can’t help that interest. That’s part of being a heterosexual male.
‘It doesn’t mean that I see her only as a body. I actually am listening to her as well and think that she should be capable of everything that a man is capable of. The problem is that those two things feel contradictory and, yes, I guess that is what I would like to write about.’
― come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:31 (eight months ago) link
worth pointing out too that he wrote a book about atheism and religion in which he cheerfully admits to not reading many foundational works on the topic because he's smart enough to think about all that stuff on his own i guess
― come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:32 (eight months ago) link
‘It’s possible that women can hold two thoughts in their head. So women can, for essentially libidinous purposes, imagine and see men in this way, while not denying their basic humanity.
‘Obviously men need to be CEOs and judges and politicians and prime ministers. Is it contradictory to also think, "I am interested in that man physically"? Because I can’t help that interest. That’s part of being a heterosexual female.
‘It doesn’t mean that I see him only as a body. I actually am listening to him as well and think that he should be capable of everything that a woman is capable of. The problem is that those two things feel contradictory and, yes, I guess that is what I would like to write about.’
If, as a thought experiment, Baddiel had reversed his statement in this way, then maybe he would have realised what he was actually saying and junked the whole concept. I guess that didn't happen, or maybe it did and he thought it was a good idea anyway.
― Scene report: Rochester MN (Matt #2), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:45 (eight months ago) link
i was just labouring to articulate this point when i realised you'd already made it
there's obviously a serious market for books about ideas written by entitled celebrities who aren't big readers
― Let's talk about local tomatoes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 16:33 (eight months ago) link
Some ppl don't want a struggle session with Hegel and this is ok.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 16:36 (eight months ago) link
This baby Michael Gove has been dying to be selected as a Tory candidate. He has a few delusions.
Had I ended up with a BA instead of a BSc, @FraserNelson wouldn't have taken a punt on me as a tech-proficient budding writer. Nor would I have had a half decent grasp of data. Nor would I think of clear writing through the lens of good coding syntax.https://t.co/smkbrBjqg9— Sebastian Payne (@SebastianEPayne) August 4, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 August 2023 09:08 (eight months ago) link
and yet he still hasn't cracked the formula for getting a parliamentary candidacy
― Let's talk about local tomatoes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 August 2023 09:15 (eight months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2rlFQVWoAAS5LG?format=jpg&name=small
I can think of some reasons why a right wing ideologue would hate Michael Rosen as much as much as RR does. Like for example he's a very nice guy who doesn't like fascists and he turned down an mbe and was a vociferous Corbyn supporter. But turning him into an evil anti-Semite feels like an arduous task that involves much self-deception and heavy duty lying and slander. I think what annoys RR the most is that he's very popular, even amongst some conservatives. Because he's witty and charming and kids love him.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 August 2023 18:44 (eight months ago) link
What is your definition of a kapo, o anonymous tweeter? (Just to help me locate myself in your worldview.)— Michael Rosen 💙💙🎓🎓 (@MichaelRosenYes) August 4, 2023
he's got a good batting average against this kind of shite
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 August 2023 18:50 (eight months ago) link
... and he's Jewish.
― Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Friday, 4 August 2023 19:23 (eight months ago) link
that's just a minor detail these days in the right-wing anti-Semitism smear game. Someone who is Jewish and grew up with an awareness of missing holocaust relatives and is avowedly anti-fascist can also be an an anti-Semite.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 August 2023 19:32 (eight months ago) link
in Germany being Jewish means you understand antisemitism less than the German gentile perpetrators who have so nobly fallen on their sword for your benefit, and you'd better be grateful to them and defer to their definitions if you want to keep your job and social standing
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 4 August 2023 19:54 (eight months ago) link
(Germany is very much the vanguard of this sort of "philosemitic" antisemitism, much like Britain is the vanguard of terf ideology - it's hard to overstate how bad it is - way too many English speakers take their "remembrance" culture at face value without knowing how it's weaponised in practice)
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 4 August 2023 20:06 (eight months ago) link
I wouldn't expect any less from Germany
they took in 10000 kindertransport kids and then UK politicians decades later could chat shit about the proud history of offering sanctuary etc .. whilst black people were getting stripped of nationality and deported to dangerous countries where they would likely die. And Jewish ppl casually getting called kapos and anti semites (sometimes by goys) because they have criticisms about how the repellent UK 2 party system's drift to fascism is getting as bad as the US.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 August 2023 20:46 (eight months ago) link
yeah the Anti-Deutsch movement are a left wing pro-Isreal group that has a lot of sway in Germany, heard tales of bands turning up to play squats with huge Israel flags on the walls and Scottish bands being blacklisted for being "nationalists"
― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 5 August 2023 00:07 (eight months ago) link
that's funny because the antideutsche are more rabidly pro US nationalism than the republican party - they quite literally take the nazi line on "who controls america" and add "and it's a good thing too" while calling anyone who dissents from this (incl/esp jews) nazi islamist terrorist lovers
they're fringe but in many ways just represent a more extreme version of german liberal common sense - I agree with them about the need to abolish germany because just look at this shit. moishe postone didn't die for this
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 5 August 2023 16:55 (eight months ago) link
all nation states are the enemy of humanity
― you're a sick man, Buddy Rich (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 August 2023 16:56 (eight months ago) link
true story
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 5 August 2023 16:57 (eight months ago) link
oh right this is about british right wing pundits. they're all bad imo
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/15/woke-eton-college-has-become-a-lost-cause/
I believe Etonians should provide a useful service to society by shaping public opinion, not by following it slavishly.
Honestly the Telegraph is like a whole other world.
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 11:40 (eight months ago) link
If all right wing institutions (Eton, the conservative party, the Telegraph) end up abolishing each other due to perceived wokeness I'll count that as a win.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 11:45 (eight months ago) link
I'm not clicking on that but loooooool at woke eton
― rob, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:28 (eight months ago) link
Inquisition Scene, 1819 https://t.co/RQswgRn1Q4 pic.twitter.com/lrn3sIj20T— Francisco Goya (@artistgoya) August 23, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 24 August 2023 08:25 (seven months ago) link
"It's fast happening ... It's all gone wrong."
This is just so fucking glorious. Every second brings me unbridled joy. This channel has been on air for over 2 years. There is no excuse for being this abysmal anymore, not one. pic.twitter.com/z6gAltb7xm— Jamie East (@jamieeast) September 9, 2023
― Portsmouth Bubblejet, Sunday, 10 September 2023 10:46 (seven months ago) link
The terror man...
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Sunday, 10 September 2023 11:04 (seven months ago) link
Chip Chapman was my least favourite strip in The Victor
― School of RAAC (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 10 September 2023 11:15 (seven months ago) link
The manager didn't see why a bunch of southerners who he presumed to be Tory scum should watch the golf. One of my companions had earned his spurs as a business reporter. He called the chief executive of the whole company and asked him to tell the manager to switch one TV over— Tim Shipman (@ShippersUnbound) September 29, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 September 2023 10:54 (six months ago) link
he was right to presume they were Tory scum
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 29 September 2023 11:01 (six months ago) link
new politico europe pod definitely worth listening to. Ben Judah describes crossing the alps with Syrian refugees and, when tasked with carrying an abandoned child, being reminded of Hegel—except this time the world spirit wasn’t Napoleon, but the child he was holding— BO (@bo_austin_) August 11, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 September 2023 15:44 (six months ago) link
If you want to understand what's going on in British media, you could do worse than GMB running heavily with a story about Meghan Markle being appointed to Diane Feinstein's seat, a seat that was filled two hours before GMB started airing. https://t.co/xbUma05ItY— Tom (@TPGRoberts) October 2, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 October 2023 10:27 (six months ago) link
quite literally arrested and thrown in jail merely for... insighting criminal damage???
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 15:58 (six months ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/05/taki-theodoracopulos-given-12-month-suspended-sentence-for-attempted
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 October 2023 21:13 (six months ago) link
do you think this means that the Spectator will finally stop publishing his column? It's barely coherent these days anyway (not that it was ever good, but)
― soref, Thursday, 5 October 2023 22:43 (six months ago) link
there's a whole new generation of self-styled crypto-nazi gadflies they can replace him with now, anyway
― soref, Thursday, 5 October 2023 22:47 (six months ago) link
There is a crisis in British politics, please resurrect my career.
This is big story of Labour conference: the sell-out to dubious businesses. The lobbyists; fringe meeting sponsors paying to make speeches; cash for access. And sod the unions. If only I still had a mic, a great cameraman, & an outlet. Please do it someone in TV or radio. https://t.co/AyEM2OfX0W— Michael Crick (@MichaelLCrick) October 7, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 October 2023 10:11 (six months ago) link
this it what corporate ghoul politicians predictably do, the time to have been shocked or alarmed was when they were taking over the Labour Party.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 8 October 2023 10:15 (six months ago) link
i'm still not really clear on when the Viz Top Tips fanboy decided he had important thoughts about politics tbh
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 October 2023 10:32 (six months ago) link
for years now he has always been condescending at best and mostly dismissive towards people who post about how wretched and corrupt the Labour leadership and various frontbench MPs are. And now he wants to be given a paid platform to carry on being slow on the uptake and a clueless cunt!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 8 October 2023 11:41 (six months ago) link
The shocking moment Douglas Murray's interview with Piers Morgan is interrupted by overhead fire at the Gaza border.Piers: "Are you ok?"Douglas: "It seemed to be coming from Gaza. Yeah it's fine, it's okay, it's been happening all day."@piersmorgan | @DouglasKMurray pic.twitter.com/rYoIk23rky— Piers Morgan Uncensored (@PiersUncensored) November 8, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 November 2023 13:33 (five months ago) link
Why is Douglas Murray at the Israel-Gaza border? Other than the obvious reason of being as near as he can get to thousands of Muslims being killed?
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 November 2023 13:43 (five months ago) link
Gaza, y’all only have to be lucky once.
― steely flan (suzy), Thursday, 9 November 2023 13:47 (five months ago) link
https://order-order.com/2023/11/24/andrew-pierce-under-investigation-over-sexual-groping-allegations/
― How old Cary Grant? (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 November 2023 00:33 (four months ago) link
Sarah Vine dines at the Garrick club
Son and dear ex, not having travelled quite so far, are already ensconced in green leather button-backs. As we cross the threshold in there’s an alarming shout: ‘It’s that Sarah Vine!’ I turn to see Kwasi Kwarteng, sitting with his lovely wife Harriet and a third party who turns out to be their vicar, positively overflowing with festive cheer. That’s the joy of somewhere like the Garrick: you never know who you’re going to bump into. On that occasion, not just the former chancellor and his spirited spiritual guide but also, and in no particular order, Sting (yes, Sting), the heavenly Lord Howard of Rising, and the ‘baby doctor’ himself, Lord [Robert] Winston.
― soref, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 22:09 (three months ago) link
you go girl etc.
https://x.com/BethRigby/status/1755148799368904986?s=20
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 09:59 (two months ago) link
oh my god
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 10:04 (two months ago) link
Baroness Davidson of Lundin Links, I'd hoped we'd seen the last of her.
― The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 10:05 (two months ago) link
I could never work out wtf Rigby's accent is supposed to be. There was some bs in The Mail about the "speech snoberry" of ppl taking the piss out of her accent. She grew up in Buckinghamshire and attended a posh girls' grammar school - so perhaps snoberry is way off the mark.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 10:16 (two months ago) link
lots of agreeing to agree going on here
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 10:20 (two months ago) link
It's because she leaves the g off words ending in -ing, like Priti Patel. It is very noticeable, perhaps because she otherwise doesn't have an especially strong accent.
― The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 10:41 (two months ago) link
Cannot think of another human, living or dead, who I despise more than Matthew Parris.
Jesus Christ Matthew Parris pic.twitter.com/OhsRVuH2Ts— Scott Bryan (@scottygb) March 9, 2024
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 10 March 2024 13:24 (one month ago) link
glad to hear from noted psychologist Matthew Parris
― Colonel Poo, Sunday, 10 March 2024 13:33 (one month ago) link
He's always been scum.
― man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Sunday, 10 March 2024 13:44 (one month ago) link
he has always been scum
the article is bullshit of course even on his own terms but journalism means never having to understand what you're writing about
― Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 10 March 2024 14:02 (one month ago) link
Cunt.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Sunday, 10 March 2024 16:36 (one month ago) link
there are ppl out there that buy into this taxpayers alliance style propaganda that disability and sickness benefits could do with dragging back to pre-welfare state levels of spending and let 'em die. I got banned from another site for laying into a bigoted moron for posting vile shit like MP. The coward deleted his post (and my reply ripping it to pieces) and then used his mod privileges to ban me, lol.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 10 March 2024 17:37 (one month ago) link
Burning all my Holly Valance records.
― Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 16 March 2024 08:22 (one month ago) link
Valance, 40, told GB News she voted Conservative in the 2019 General Election but is now in favour of Richard Tice's party which recently welcomed MP Lee Anderson after he defected from the Tories."I support anybody that sort of sticks to what they believe in and isn't a turncoat," she said.
"I support anybody that sort of sticks to what they believe in and isn't a turncoat," she said.
... errrrrrrrrr.
― man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 March 2024 08:37 (one month ago) link
Racist member of the Serb diaspora, consider me shocked
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 16 March 2024 08:43 (one month ago) link
Just a friendly sieg heil each morning,Helps to make a better day.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 16 March 2024 09:12 (one month ago) link
isn't she Australian?
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 16 March 2024 09:17 (one month ago) link
Serbian and Australian not a great combination tbh.
― man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 March 2024 09:22 (one month ago) link
xp as I said, diaspora. Chetniks march in the ANZAC parade and their flags have shown up at tennis matches. Let’s just say they’re not too worried about the association.
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 16 March 2024 09:31 (one month ago) link
I know, just saying that when a white immigrant to the UK starts coming out with anti-immigrant rhetoric then yeah it is really very obvious as regards racist (barely) subtext. notable also that her only big hit was a cover version of a Turkish hit.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 16 March 2024 11:23 (one month ago) link
https://www.ft.com/content/2bd751aa-e2bf-4ab6-a3d5-38fb5b571833
It is hard to establish cause and effect. Wars are so frequent that one can always be tied to a chronologically adjacent invention. Still, the west’s Long Peace more or less maps on to the stagnation that Cowen and others describe. And it is possible to theorise how war might serve as a stimulant. First, the trauma forces the imagination into new and strange places. Second, the resulting ideas are easier to sell because the ruling ideas are so tainted with blood. Third, the violence itself often gives rise to some kind of technical innovation.
In The Third Man, Orson Welles’s character observes that, while the warring states of the Italian peninsula gave us the Renaissance, serene Switzerland produced the “cuckoo clock”. (Harsh on Rousseau and Le Corbusier, that.) The film came out in 1949. A human lifetime later, he could be describing the entire western world. I am writing this on a MacBook that is much the same as the laptop I first owned a generation ago. People watch episodic TV shows, as they did in 1990, even if they do so on-demand. We who dine out most nights wait, in vain, for a new direction in the restaurant world. I now see all this sameness as the (dirt cheap) price of prolonged peace. I have no certainty that a war would be a creative stimulus, just a nauseous feeling that we are due to find out. "our sObviously reactionary nutters have been writing "our society needs a war" ever since 1945, but it feels like there is a coordiation of drum-banging recently with all the conscription stuff. It's pretty chilling how desperately some people want to see Britain nuked in our lifetimes. The above is obviously risible clickbait but I think it does lay bare some of the hidden arguments behind the acceptable liberal ones.
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 8 April 2024 14:05 (one week ago) link
Who wrote that?
― Hunky Tory (Tom D.), Monday, 8 April 2024 14:06 (one week ago) link
Janan Ganesh, sorry here's an archive link
https://archive.ph/XyWWZ
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 8 April 2024 14:09 (one week ago) link
dying at 'in vain'
― plax (ico), Monday, 8 April 2024 14:11 (one week ago) link
That Janan is breathing ought to be enough reason to bring back the guillotine.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 8 April 2024 15:11 (one week ago) link
the national service act can conscript those aged between 18-41, Janan is 42!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 8 April 2024 15:19 (one week ago) link
i was gonna say "the new fash are deeply into cosplay militarism" but of course we can take out the "new" from that. it's a central pillar of fascism full stop. if it looks a little more ridiculous now than it did in the 1920s maybe that's just because people can see thru their shit a little more clearly
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Monday, 8 April 2024 15:22 (one week ago) link
What the fuck are pro-conscriptionists even imagining? Land battles in eastern Europe? What year is this?
It's like the end of Vile Bodies when were back in the world 1914 in exactly the same conditions, just 15 years later.
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 8 April 2024 15:37 (one week ago) link
*world of 1914
Ugh. Fucking chickenhawk.
― steely flan (suzy), Monday, 8 April 2024 16:14 (one week ago) link
the third man line was bullshit that welles made up during filming. i wonder how many people have died due to that scene and the idiot warmongers who think it's fact.
― formerly abanana (dat), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 10:56 (one week ago) link
The parenthetical right after basically acknowledges it’s bullshit! Not to mention that most normal people would agree that lime is not the hero of that film
― subpost master (wins), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 11:07 (one week ago) link
Would you really feel any pity if a few million of those dots stop moving — forever?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 11:31 (one week ago) link
Yes, it's a glib self-serving line by a glib self-serving character in movie. Also have we all forgotten the Affair of the Sausages?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affair_of_the_Sausages
― Hunky Tory (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 11:39 (one week ago) link
i wonder how many people have died due to that scene and the idiot warmongers who think it's fact.
I think it's 0 fwiw
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 12:37 (one week ago) link
what about this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjpkoPEn0cI
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 14:39 (one week ago) link
A pile of free copies of The Critic has started to appear every month in the reception area of my work. Usual names on the usual themes. Woke agenda in universities/BBC/civil service. What is wrong with being elitist? Diary pieces that begin "To the theatre..." Cartoons of men on desert islands. Is there a bottomless well of this stuff? Like someone saw a gap in the market between The Oldie and The Spectator, to fill with more mid-brow right-wing STUFF, printed on paper with a nice cover. Who buys it? Who funds it?
― fetter, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 13:14 (one week ago) link
Who buys it? maybe those who think of Private Eye as too woke thesedays...
― Mark G, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 15:57 (one week ago) link
lmao at "Cartoons of men on desert islands."
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 16:01 (one week ago) link
isn't the Critic funded by Jeremy Hosking? With the money he had left over after giving millions to Laurence Fox and Andrew Bridgen.
it always seems to me that the cartoons in the Spectator are better than the cartoons in Private Eye despite a lot of them being by the same cartoonists - I always wondered how many of the cartoons that appear in the Eye are ones that the Spectator has already rejected? Do cartoonists save their best stuff for the Spectator because they know the Eye's standards are lower?
― soref, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 17:54 (one week ago) link