Big Brother 2007 (UK) Thread 1: Power, Corruption and Lies?

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So, Big Brother Eight begins May 30th, and already the Daily Star is devoting every recent front page with lurid tales of three in a bed bisexual promiscuity and so on. Well, we'll have to drag ourselves away from all that and get hopelessly addicted to the goings on in some slightly uncomfortable in places, largely overexposed to the outside world, media scrumbase that is the Big Brother house.

It's another trawl through human emotions, relationships and the human condition. And who knows, some nudity and swearing. And a sense of Deja Vu too! (sigh)

So, How does it feel?

Mark G, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 10:28 (nineteen years ago)

Like deja vu

onimo, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

It was better in 2006.

Madchen, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 10:49 (nineteen years ago)

The bath is in the living room, the fridge is in the garden, the cooker is in the bedroom. It's crrraaazzzzyyyyyy...

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bigbrother8/a58087/bb-bath-moved-to-living-room.html

The show's bosses hope it will create passion and lots of sexy scenes.

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 10:50 (nineteen years ago)

Hot sexy sex action WITH SEX.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 10:50 (nineteen years ago)

Presumably they're hoping this woman will be the first in the tub.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bigbrother8/a58085/sex-addict-to-enter-bb8-house.html

The 20-something secretary bragged that she had slept with over 200 people at the auditions stage...

Which must have taken some doing...

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

how does having a fridge in the garden create a sexy scene?

Ste, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 10:55 (nineteen years ago)

"let me take my meat out"

Ste, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 10:56 (nineteen years ago)

i saw at paper last week. she's a nice girl, friends with michelle marsh. i bought her a wkd. she told me the nigel dempster's niece is going in the house.

acrobat, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

Who is Michelle Marsh?

Tom D., Tuesday, 22 May 2007 11:02 (nineteen years ago)

My message go eaten!

Who normally swears that they're not watching every year?

These threads are the only reason I know what's going on.

kv_nol, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 11:04 (nineteen years ago)

goT eaten FFS

kv_nol, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 11:04 (nineteen years ago)

Make all future BB threads poll-based.

blueski, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 11:09 (nineteen years ago)

What, as in "Who to go/Who do you like?" sort of thing?

Yeah, I can see that'd be a runner.

Mark G, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 11:14 (nineteen years ago)

Good idea, that sex addict. Now put in a religion addict and see if they convert each other.

StanM, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 11:19 (nineteen years ago)

And a crack addict and a porn addict...

Tom D., Tuesday, 22 May 2007 11:21 (nineteen years ago)

Ooooh, and a genuine paranoiac. "you sure nobody's watching us?"

StanM, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

Are you looking forward to Big Brother's eighth series?
Yes
23.31%
No
76.69%
5589 Votes Cast
Results are indicative and may not reflect public opinion

blueski, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

but still, they WATCH!

Mark G, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Watching a "where are they now" thing on Channel 4 - dear God, Craig Coates got fat. Also, lol at Marco, chubster hairy boy.

ailsa, Sunday, 27 May 2007 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

please let that appear on ukn0va

RJG, Sunday, 27 May 2007 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

I had totally forgotten about half of last year's mob. There were millions of them!

ailsa, Sunday, 27 May 2007 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

Jason Cowan looked terriying on that show!

jed_, Sunday, 27 May 2007 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

Aye, I think I'd walk past him on the street, he looked so different. Adele from BB3 looked brilliant.

ailsa, Sunday, 27 May 2007 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

i am not watching, this year, for realsies.

That one guy that quit, Sunday, 27 May 2007 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

why not?

RJG, Sunday, 27 May 2007 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

I mean how come?

RJG, Sunday, 27 May 2007 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

i want to be "that guy" this year. who "doesn't watch".

That one guy that quit, Monday, 28 May 2007 09:33 (nineteen years ago)

God help me, I just bookmarked this thread u_u

kv_nol, Monday, 28 May 2007 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

Who normally swears that they're not watching every year?

that'll be me :)

and every year i do. but srsly, i'm with TOGTQ on this one. i really just do not have enough of a fuck to give about this.

i'll watch them going in, just so i've got some vague idea who all these tossbags are who'll be all over the front pages of the red-tops for the next however-long, but that's it. the only way i'd want to watch another series of BB is if they took it back to absolute basics, and that obviously isn't about to happen.

grimly fiendish, Monday, 28 May 2007 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

HOWEVER, i will read this thread :)

grimly fiendish, Monday, 28 May 2007 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

Riiiiiight...

(Ha ha xpost!)

kv_nol, Monday, 28 May 2007 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

if they took it back to absolute basics

if only!

jed_, Monday, 28 May 2007 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

From all the preamble, it just seems like the aim is to get more fodder for the dailys in that 'aiming for a career presenting lo-budget porn channels, until get booted for next years short-half-life celeb from BB9' way.

"painful showoffs" seems almost polite these days.

Of course, it could all be red herringsville, and/or 2 or 3 obvious ones hiding (at first) some interesting people.

But, we have done the "I'll use Big Brother to come out of the closet" guests, and yet the 'place to get intimate/married' seems to be the new ummm taupe.

As per every year, the quality of the cake is in the cooking at the time.

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 08:40 (nineteen years ago)

Hello, My name is Mark. I have been up for 24 hours straight and I've travelled 303 miles so far. I'll be akip in about 10 hours, so the only way is down.

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 08:41 (nineteen years ago)

saw the after they were housemates thing and the r brand thing too

RJG, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 08:43 (nineteen years ago)

I wish one year they'd have a house full of quite ordinary, nice people. People who sat around having interesting discussions about books and movies and music, and who were naturally quick-witted and could crack a few jokes, and who were funny and silly when they'd had a few drinks. No freaks or drama queens.

C J, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 08:47 (nineteen years ago)

Last time that happened, Jack Dee won.

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 08:48 (nineteen years ago)

i would like to see a couple of OAPs in the ordinary BB house (of course we've had them in the sleb one)

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 08:51 (nineteen years ago)

BB NAMES LEAKED
29/05/07
A TOP secret list naming the new Big Brother housemates was leaked yesterday – just 24 hours before the show starts.

A “whistleblower” posted a message on a showbiz website and within minutes of the names being revealed, the site went into meltdown.

TV bosses had desperately been trying to keep the identities of the wannabes under wraps.

However, the “whistleblower”, claiming he had close links with Channel 4 and Endemol UK, decided to throw the programme into chaos.

Not only did he claim to have the full list of the official housemates, he also bragged he had the names of “extras” being lined up as surprise new contestants later in the series, as well as stand-ins in case anyone walks or falls ill.

When the Daily Star called C4 bosses last night about the list, they refused to say whether it was real or not.

A show spokeswoman said: “Any speculation regarding this year’s set of
housemates for Big Brother is just that – speculation.

“We urge viewers to tune into our launch show tomorrow night to find who just who is going into the house this summer.”

Last year C4 suffered a major setback when, two weeks before the show went on air, a list was leaked to the media naming all of the wannabes.

It meant fans saw pictures of Welsh beauty Imogen Thomas, 24, Tourette’s
sufferer Pete Bennett, 24, and bonkers Shahbaz Chaudhry, 38, days before the show began.

Did they mean us? Guess not...

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

I'd forgotten all about "Welsh beauty Imogen Thomas, 24" - she never really got her baps out in the lads' mags, did she?

Tom D., Tuesday, 29 May 2007 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Gosh no.

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Pity!

Tom D., Tuesday, 29 May 2007 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

(Results 1 - 10 of about 409,000 for Imogen Thomas nude.)

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

I saw her sex video.

blueski, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

It was horrible seeing BB6 Craig on TV again the other day (on E4 BB nostalgia show). he's puffed up tho lol.

blueski, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

I watched that show as well, and was not sorry that I didn't watch BB at all last year and hardly at all the year before.

I wish one year they'd have a house full of quite ordinary, nice people. People who sat around having interesting discussions about books and movies and music, and who were naturally quick-witted and could crack a few jokes, and who were funny and silly when they'd had a few drinks. No freaks or drama queens.

I have been wishing this since year four.

accentmonkey, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

surely thou it is impossible to capture the innocence of the first two.

"nicholas i'm very dissapointed..."(sic)

BEGINING OF TIME

acrobat, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

Today!

Rumour: All todays housemates are female (at least to start with)

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 07:25 (nineteen years ago)

I wondered what happened to Nasty Nick, but it turns out he went to Australia, became "openly gay", and was evicted with 51% of the vote.
Or so it seems.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 08:54 (nineteen years ago)

So, we have "Woman in a burkha", "Woman from the WI", "Woman that is a bit promisc", what else?

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 11:18 (nineteen years ago)

12 women and no men, and somebody who knows someone else who knows David Beckham.

V, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

Right, Channel 4 have confirmed the WI member and the lap dancer.

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Two of my colleagues are going to Big Brother's Big Mouth tomorrow. They are trying to get someone else to go, but nobody wants to. I might watch it just to laugh at them.

PJ Miller, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, youse lot: Catch you later in front of teh TV!

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

My house appears to be 2:1 split in favour of watching the Apprentice so I'm assuming I'll be missing them all go in. The opening bit isn't being streamed over the C4 website is it?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

WI member will be from fulham branch i'm guessing, ie sloany 30-something rather than granny...

CarsmileSteve, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

not rly feasible for you to get round mine in an hour is it Matt?

CarsmileSteve, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

My house is split 1:1 in favour of the Apprentice and I am losing on points. (The Scotland game was knocked out in qualifying since it's only a friendly, it's not on the council telly, and I'm dying of death lurgey and can't go to the pub)

ailsa, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

The Apprentice is on BBC On Demand, which is how I'm gonna be watching it this week.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

Celeb BB was on C4 OD, so presumably normal BB will be as well.

chap, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

(also we can wind matt up sending him silly txt msgs ;))

CarsmileSteve, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

OK, it's on.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

No it isn't!

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

OFCOM STATEMENT!

(We're a bit sorry)

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

lol it's apology time.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

Good luck with the not-being-able-to-turn-off-xpost-notifications thing, lads!

ailsa, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

ta. xpost

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

New Virgin Media idents. They won't get old quick.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

Davina is promising...

NO GAY MARRIAGE

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

NO VANISHED PEOPLE

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

AND NO DYNAMITE

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

http://wickedchopspoker.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/wbelt1.jpg

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

AND NO NEW TAXES

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

LONGER WALKWAY THIS IS OFFICIALLY THE MOST REVOLUTIONARY BIG BROTHER EVER

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe racist housemates will get lost on the way to the house? Is that the idea behind the walkway?

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

It's a holding area, Dav!

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

THERE IS A BULLSEYE IN THE HOUSE. REPEAT, THERE IS A BULLSEYE IN THE HOUSE.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

After 15mins of failing to get C4's live simulcast thing to work I am planning on following this via thread alone. What music should I be listening to in order to best recapture the experience?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

Mad cupboards! That design crew be earning their salary this year.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

John Cage's 4' 53" xpost

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

After 15mins of failing to get C4's live simulcast thing to work I am planning on following this via thread alone. What music should I be listening to in order to best recapture the experience?

"I Said Never Again (But Here We Are)"

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

Is that the extended version, Mark?

ailsa, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

Or it could be Sly Stone's "There's a riot going on" track on autorepeat.

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

Christ this tour of the house is dull.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

I'm watching the Apprentice and reading this thread. A loser is me.

ailsa, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

No, you is teh best of both worls.

Don't do no spoilers, I'm recording App to see it when Dawn's back home next week.

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

No It's Not Annoying! It's a fridge Hooray!

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Come on Davina - this is no fun! Bring on the dancing girls.

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

Update from my house - 'I Said Never Again (But Here We Are)' still sounds really good.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Neon Settee!

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Yay commercial break!

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Echo Falls Wine! Slimming ad!

OK, I'll calm down.

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

Worst 15 minutes of television ever.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

Had to be said: http://www.myspace.com/citizenscience

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

TICKET NUMBER ONE IN THE ROYAL RUMBLE IS...

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

SOME TWINS

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

Sam and Amanda

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

SAM AND AMANDA MUST GO

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

Chav attack!

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

RUN!

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

It's like Heavenly Creatures with these two.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

First boos of the series!

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

They seem not terribly bright!

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

(to be clear - they attacked chavs, not me)

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

I think I like them anyway.

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

They love "hot boyz" and "pink things".

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

Well, the Olson twins never really caught on here.

Ah, go on. Benefit of the doubt.

They'll be in tears before Friday!

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

Please rate 'hotness' and 'mentalism potential' out of 10.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

O no - they also hate serious or dull people, but want to attract clever boys. they're a piece of work!

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Please rate 'hotness' and 'mentalism potential' out of 10.

8 and 10.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

LESLEY IS A 60 YEAR OLD

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

LOL OLD PEOPLE

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

Ok now this is better!

(until...)

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

Derek Laud 2K7

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

Hang on, MARGARET! YOU'RE ON THE WRONG SIDE!!

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

I like this old headhunter!

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

Friends with Charles and Camilla.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

Doesn't like music.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Hotness: 4
Mentalism: 2

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

I'm calling 'winner' without even having seen her.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

Reading banned in house.

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

#3 is...

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

CHARLEY

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'm A Sleb has already proved that Britishes be loving their dotty old Tory gran figures.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

OK the twins:

Less mental than Nikki

But there's two of them!

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

This is Lex's favourite.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

HOTNESS: 6
MENTALISM: 8

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, this is Kieran Richardson's cuz.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Plz include Poshness grade as well from now on.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

um, she's the anonymous onew

(Why the booing tho?)

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, this one's dead in week one. Black + female + confrontational = BB death.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

She looks old.

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

If she survives to, say, Week 3, expect a lot of crying.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

Why the booing? She's said nothing confrontational!

What are the crowd singing? "We don't give a stuff for yr racial censure" ?

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

Did one of them just say "I've got boobs"?

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, it was "I got booed"

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

TS: SINGING BEES VS TALKING FLOWERS

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

It wouldn't surprise me if it was "I got boobs" - wasn't that Lesleh's entire conversational gambit for about her first 20 minutes on BB?

(I'm not actually watching this and I don't know who you're talking about)

ailsa, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

Say "Hi" to... TRACEY

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

80s aciiiiiied casualty

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

It's Dennis Pennis!

No it's DONNY TOURETTE!

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

After two series of girls bullying each other, have they decided the way forward is an all female house or something?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

Tracey must go.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

PETE'S MUM MUST GO

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

ah xpost

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

I like this mental ageing crusty pillhead!

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

I could like her.

Let's see.

xpost

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

I thought they rounded up all the candyravers in 1997 and shot them.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

I take it the 12 female contestants thing is going to be true :(

xpost

V, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

Weird?

I've had weirder things for breakfast!

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

HOTNESS: 0
MENTALISM: 4
POSHNESS: Acting 0, in reality probably a 10.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

First to walk - I'm calling it.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

Well, that's the most popular entrance since Series one!

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

Self-proclaimed weirdos are always good value.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

When did you turn up, NV?

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

Spiraaaaaaaal Triiiiiiiibe

hmm, yes indeed, forward the revolution

Porkpie, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

CHANELLE

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

I LOVE HER.

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

She wants to be Victoria Beckham.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

I'd hit this.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

uh oh.

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

HOTNESS: 9
MENTALISM: 2
POSHNESS: 6

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

breathe dear, breathe. Victoria Beckham does, so it's ok

Porkpie, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

First hm to say that she' not bovvered.

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

Can we have someone bearable please BB? No? Ok.

Chris in Belfast, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

xxxxxxpost

Just got in.

So this one is this year's Jade remix, right?

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

and scared of not being Victoria Beckham.

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

This one is clearly a lot smarter than she's letting on.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

My guess is the Victoria B schtick will be dropped very quickly with this one.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

did she just ask for bum-love?

Porkpie, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

"Ello, you look like Liz Carling!"

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

18, 19, 37..

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

She's got a nicer smile than Victoria Beckham. Actually, I'm not sure Victoria Beckham does smile.

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

SHABNAM

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

Have any of them expressed a desire to try lezzing up yet? Surely the "all-female" concept will stand or fall on this?

ailsa, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

now THIS one's the first week walker.

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

Is this the emo candidate?

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

Another good smile. And voice.

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

Oh god, self-proclaimed "nutter". Probably very boring in reality.

Actually she might be alright.

Chris in Belfast, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

Bad eyes.

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

She's got a nicer smile than Victoria Beckham. Actually, I'm not sure Victoria Beckham does smile.

She doesn't smile because she has pirhana teeth.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

Nice to see Noel Fielding trying out a new character live.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

HOTNESS: 9
MENTALISM: 1
POSHNESS: 4

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

"Cheer me I'm scared"

Chris in Belfast, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I'm going off her.

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

I think you were right first time. first real actual breakdown on screen, right there

Porkpie, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

Cross between Amy Winehouse (first album), and oh someone I know.

OK AND NOEL FIELDING xpost.

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

Freddie Mercury?

*rumpie*, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

"Her nickname is "Shabbolicious"."

No. No it isn't.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

Did you hear Pete's mom telling them she was 37? I was at least 15 years out.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

hang on. why are they singing "Glamorous" all suddenly?

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

Posh!

Chris in Belfast, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

poshness: 10?

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

A must!

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

Pete Baran isn't going to be in this, is he? :(

Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

EMILY.

DRAMA STUDENT.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

Posher than Hitler.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

ha INDIE!!!!!

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

lol toffs with no self-awareness

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

THERE'S A NEW MUSIC TAKING OVER THE COUNTRY AND IT'S CALLED INDIE

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

LOLZ

"new music taking over the country called indie"

Chris in Belfast, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

THERE'S A NEW MUSIC TAKING OVER THE COUNTRY AND IT'S CALLED INDIE
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Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

INDIE MUST STAY. DIRTY DRONEROCK BOYS REQUIRED!

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

WHY CAN'T I CHANGE MY USERNAME???

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, so far so good!

No-one actually hateworthy.

xpost Kate?

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

I want her £4000 Tory teeth.

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

She's quite fit tbf. A Tory though, quelle surprise.

Chris in Belfast, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

I don't want to be on the same planet as her.

Porkpie, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

I'm assuming we'll be able to look this one up on Facebook, right?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

She idolises Lily Allen. Quelle sup.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

OK, so which one isn't getting a media career after this?

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

She is the face of new Britain.

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

"OK, so which one isn't getting a media career after this?"

Chanelle.

Chris in Belfast, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

jesus...this really is proof that reality is more far fetched than anything fiction can muster.

is tracey mentally handicapped? honestly?

Ronan, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

FYI: THERE'S A NEW MUSIC TAKING OVER THE COUNTRY AND IT'S CALLED INDIE

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

OOO BOP! FASHION!

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

Okay after one Google query I know who all the other housemates are and I'm bored now.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

Most of them ham it up something rotten on their intro videos, though.

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

Ew - Moyles, I had no idea.

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

Beth ditto?

Chris in Belfast, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

LAURA IS BETH DITTO

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

lol xp

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

these contestants provide a grim picture of the human race.

Ronan, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

I am not reading that leaked list.

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

lol Vicky Pollard is as much otm actually.

Chris in Belfast, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

The Only Beth Ditto in the Village!

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

She seems nice.

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

she's a future Nurse Gladys Emmanuel

Porkpie, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

NICKY, 27

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

She parties HARD.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

This one isn't doing anything, huh?

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

Oh I like this girl. She has no chance though. She likes electro! Jeez. But she hates men. Oh dear.

Chris in Belfast, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

Nicky seems like a non-freak!

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

By the way, THERE'S A NEW MUSIC TAKING OVER THE COUNTRY AND IT'S CALLED INDIE

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

OK, I guess the last one is going to be the mad nut hate mental figure.

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

"nasty little creatures"

GIVE US HELL NICKY!

I like her - most normal

Porkpie, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

Half-brother in Skins!

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

This year's Bonnie?

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

Uh-oh, hyperventilation.

Chris in Belfast, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

You can't like her just for being normal! That's how Nazi Germany started.

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

Hitler was nice?

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

How is she remotely like Bonnie?

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

meanwhile, Leslie sits at the back getting plastered - this could be fun

Porkpie, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

Carol, 53, from "Woo woo woo" East London.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

Things are slowing here, I haven't had an xpost for 10 minutes!

xpost!

She's like bonnie in that when she goes it will seem unjust as she hasn't made an impression.

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, whoops - I was thinking of Lesley, not Bonnie!

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

It's a Greenham Common throwback.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

KITTEN'S MOM MUST GO

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

can we evict Carole before she goes in?

Porkpie, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

Heh, proper crusty leftie.

Chris in Belfast, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

OK, I guess the last one is going to be the mad nut hate mental figure.

-- Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:05 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Did I call this or what?

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

it's Millie Tant!

Porkpie, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

Porkpie OTM.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

Carole looks like Newman off Seinfeld.

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

Hah, she's a local council candidate for Respect!

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

Respect party?

Galloway's lot?

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

Stood for RESPECT! I wonder if Gorgeous George gave her any advice.

Chris in Belfast, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

Alba OTM. hahaha

Chris in Belfast, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

"One, Two, three, four.."

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

how long before the Carole vs Leslie beatdown?

Porkpie, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

She reminds me a little of Grotbags.

*rumpie*, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

Carol 8/1
Laura 10/1
Tracey 16/1
Nickey 18/1
Emily 20/1
Sam 25/1
Amanda 25/1
Lesley 33/1
Channelle 33/1
Shabnam 33/1
Charley 50/1

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

Just watched that. OMG Heathers, with spectators.

suzy, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

Voting/betting on identical twins will be interesting.

Alba, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

I assumed they'd count as 1. I mean, they're only packing 1 personality between them.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

NEWS AT TEN - GIRL WITH PINK HAIR = NEIL WARNOCK

Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

To pick up on Dom's betting, while we were watching it I said Carol ftw as long as she can reign her gob in in the right areas. Young girls treat her like a mum and not vote to evict, innit.

aldo, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

So is the point here that you have lots of girly girls and then the rest are complete she-men?

Nicky is rather hot.

Ronan, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

nobody ftw

Alan, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

Those were fake tears from lesley! This is a really intriguing line up, coo

stet, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

Victoria Beckham one is being played by Catherine Tate, yes?

ailsa, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

Right, it seems Dawn watched the apprentice up in Newcassl.

so, I'm off.

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

That was weirdly underwhelming. It's not exactly left me wanting to watch it tomorrow night.

RickyT, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

It'll be more about the 'activities'/challenges.

Good!

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

i bet the amy winehouse one likes electro too

Ronan, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

i wonder what they think of Justice

Ronan, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

There's a new music taking over the country

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

"THERE'S A NEW MUSIC TAKING OVER THE COUNTRY AND IT'S CALLED INDIE" to mention DrownedInSound or Pitchfork at any point over the forthcoming 3 months: 2/5

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

too rough, over compressed trebly bass

Alan, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

Which one was that that said that indie thing anyway?

ailsa, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

the annoying one

Alan, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

Thought as much, cheers

ailsa, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

oh, hang on...

ailsa, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

Emily I think

V, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

Emily has younger twin sisters. They are 'paris hiltonlike'.

So, I guess she's feeling right at home now.

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

They need to put in a nerd who's scared of girls but is actually quite handsome on friday. My TV is too far from my internet to post while I'm watching, but I totally knew you'd all be going mad for the indie comment.

Nicky is the only one I'd want to meet, but I rather like Carol.

chap, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

I am trying to watch the live feed but IT IS JUST NOISE.

aldo, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

I typed that one word in here first, I knew that was the one that'd get 'em.

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

twist is that 5 of them are actually trannies, amirite?

Alan, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

Pete's "mom" for sure.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

TWINS MUST GO.

Much LOLing @ Indie Tory idiot.

I quite like Nicky.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

Nicky=last three, but not winner.

chap, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

How come nobody ever claims to be a War Campaigner?

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

nicky ftw

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

just when i thought i was out... they pulled me back in.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

I think Charlie may turn out to be actually OK.

chap, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

I mainly watched Children's TV on Trial on BBC4 and missed most of this, but from what I've seen: girls girls girls! And none of them are that hot. Maybe the glum looking Lily Allen with the Cleopatra hair, and the vacant blonde in the little-gurl turqouise dress might grow on me.

DavidM, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

OK, now Where's Grimly?

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

lots of gender neutral names in there

Alan, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

Posh jr is the fittest, followed by ol' forefront of the indie revolution.

chap, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think Yorkshire Posh is all that good looking. But she really reminds me of someone (not Posh). Someone from the '80s. It'll come to me.

DavidM, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

Lesley wants to leave already, I sense.

"Well tell what to do.
But why should I tell them?
Well, you're carrying the bible, and don't you want an easy life?
You mean I could give myself , like, no jobs?"

"WOOOOOOOOOOOOO, let's all be really environmentally friendly and in touch with the Earth."

Lesley shoots herself.

aldo, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

Yorkshire Posh looks like Therese Bazaar.

xpost

aldo, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

Liz Carling?

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

Nice to see Noel Fielding trying out a new character live.

-- Noodle Vague, Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:48 PM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

ahahahahahahahaha snap

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, my earlier post disappeared. Anyway, tracy looks like Nicholas Lyndhurst in a pink wig from certain angles. Barbie twins must go.

Posh Spicealike = Amanda Holden x aargh, someone else off the telly I can't remember right now.

(I've changed my mind. Amy Winelodge must go)

ailsa, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

I saw Amanda Holden on something the other day, she's hilariously botoxed now.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

And her teeth are really manky (she was on Parky one night and I was transfixed by how much money she had spent doing other stuff yet completely neglected her horrible teeth)

ailsa, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe it's not botox then. Maybe Les Dennis slipped her some rancid seafood.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

Actually there was a shot of Yorkshire Posh straight on and there was something of the Nicholas Lyndhurst/Mackenzie Cook about her (bony face, sunken eyes). But now I think it's a girl from Pulp's "Misshapes" video she reminds me of.

DavidM, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

The twins look like idiot versions of Lauren Laverne.

ailsa, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

Too easy.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

STRAIGHT HEAD WATCH SEZ:

Laura, Lesley, Sam and Shabnam are very straight indeed. Carole is at a quite od Chad angle, but strangely straight. Tracey and Emily are next, then Chanelle and Charley.

So, Amanda or Nicky to go first.

aldo, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

"odd", obv

aldo, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

"I would either like to be famous and rich or a speech therapist in Spain."

aldo, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

The twins will have been in so many morally dubious photoshoots by the time the summer is out. They knew exactly what they were doing with that lollipop thing.

Emily is hot. Batty old socialist woman looks like the only potential winner here, but it'll probably be a bloke.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

Was that Hardeep Singh Kohli pretending to be Osamam Bin Laden just now?

aldo, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

"Henrik, like, Ibsen, he, like wrote this play called The Dolls House in, like Victorian times *and all that jazz*."

That's why you haven't got on luv, mixing showbiz genres like that, not because "there aren't any theatres worth anything in Bristol".

I need to go to bed, I hate them all already.

aldo, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

b-b-but she's got a triple distinction in her diploma!

(that was quite impressive sounding until she spoiled it by explaining that that lets her go on to do an HND next year)

ailsa, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

the only one i like is the welsh one, she seems nice.

chanelle must die.

as must the indie one

and the hippy farmer witch

and the twins

argh.

Just got offed, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

SO MANY VAPID 'OUTSPOKEN MEDIA TYPE' SOCIALITES, just like every other year, WHY MUST YOU BE THIS WAY BIG BROTHER, so fucking predictable

Just got offed, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah okay, that posh indie drama girl is vile. I'm switching allegence. I now like Lily Allen for the chain-smoking aloofness, and the young Amy Winehouse girl, who looks a bit like Jennifer Connelly in that Dario Argento film.

The twins, though ultra-dippy, seem quite harmless.

And Carole is Mike Read after a sex change (Mike Read as in "Mike Read Mike Read on 275 and 285 on your radio" Saturday Superstore acoustic guitar Mike Read, not "Runarahnd... NOWWWW!" Mike Read).

The space-cadet really is a sex change, though, right??

DavidM, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

^^Not Carole, I mean Lesley. I'm learning the names slowly.

DavidM, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 23:26 (nineteen years ago)

The twins are quite sweet really, there seem to be fewer hateable ones this year.

Tracy is turning out to be pretty condescending though with all this "I'm on a different level to you because I don't wear makeup stuff". They edited out something that the Emily Blunt one shouted back at her though, arse.

V, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 23:31 (nineteen years ago)

HOUSEMATES – EMILY
Emily
Name: Emily
Age: 19
Home:
Job: Student/Waitress
Starsign:

Fashionable drama student, Emily is an indie chick with the heart of a middle-class politician who has no time for those who don't live up to her high standards. She'd like to write for Vogue, having given up her dream of becoming a fashion designer because she can't sew. She's hoping to find a gorgeous indie rocker man in the house.

Status: Single.

First Words: "Thank God for that."

Life Philosophy: "Live life to the fullest, like it's your last. Enjoy what's around you and what's given to you."

Likes: Fashion, drama, parties, new rave music, the Sims.

Dislikes: People who tell white lies, are ignorant or deliberately stupid.

Why BB?: "It looks like the biggest adventure  and it's free!"

acrobat, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 23:35 (nineteen years ago)

they should send marcello in

acrobat, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

No, you pay! In soul coinage!

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

i'd go on bb! screw the soul!

Just got offed, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

Why isn't "indie" in Emily's likes list then, eh?

ailsa, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 23:47 (nineteen years ago)

is "new rave music" not indie? lol justice thread.

acrobat, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

God help me, I downloaded this and the accompanying show for a homesick friend and I love it! I guess now that American Idol is over I can afford to have an unhealthy TV obsession.

musically, Thursday, 31 May 2007 05:38 (nineteen years ago)

they should send marcello in.

The second word is "off."

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:03 (nineteen years ago)

and the first is 'wank'

Just got offed, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:04 (nineteen years ago)

just jokin' marcello!

Just got offed, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:05 (nineteen years ago)

i reckon you'd be pretty funny tho. BB needs more cranky, literate types...

Just got offed, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:06 (nineteen years ago)

Big Brother/literate - the oxymoron to end all oxymorons?

I watched about five seconds of it last night in between The Apprentice and The Apprentice - You're Fired! Davina in her kinky leather for the Kleenex brigade as usual (didn't fuel my helicopter)..."another housemate" and it was the usual preening pranny so that was more than enough.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

I reckon it would take just 3 genuinely intelligent people to entirely subvert the accepted Big Brother dynamic. Trouble is, you're not going to find 3 genuinely intelligent people who actually want to apply. Pity.

Davina does little for me either, but I don't think that's the point. I think she's going for the whole 'cool young mother' look, so rather than being the kind of lady we want to screw, she's the kind of lady we want looking after our kids. In theory.

She's still pretty irritating.

Just got offed, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:14 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, I'm sure "genuinely intelligent" people have applied to BB. We could debate whether they'd be really boring TV or not, but it's pretty clear by this stage that Endemol knows what it's doing re: its target audience and if you don't like it you either ignore it or take the piss.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:17 (nineteen years ago)

so rather than being the kind of lady we want to screw, she's the kind of lady we want looking after our kids

Confused? You will be...

Tom D., Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:18 (nineteen years ago)

Unlikely (JGO xpost). Remember that BB inmates are not allowed to read while they're in (not good TV you see). Also, regardless of however many "intelligent" people apply, or even get into the house, the producers are far cleverer and will exploit every conceivable way to cut you down to size (as Galloway himself has acknowledged).

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:20 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I enjoy taking the piss, granted, but I think it would be really interesting to clash the vapid socialites with a few real thinkers. I reckon that would make INCREDIBLE TV, as each side slowly drove the other mad, or better still, as each side gravitated towards one another. It would be a great anthropological experiment, and a good one to watch as well.

I think people who realise they're being viewed by millions yet have no interaction with the outside world will generally always make great TV, unless they'rereally boring and/or unintelligent, which most BB contestants nowadays regrettably are.

Marcello, it isn't possible for a producer to completely control one's actions. Even if you're required to do a degrading task, it's possible to carry it out with a certain knowing elan. Also, I reckon that these intelligent folks can go a few weeks without reading. Surely?

Just got offed, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

Incredible TV? Gawd 'elp us!

Tom D., Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:23 (nineteen years ago)

"i went into the big brother house IRONICALLY"

Alan, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:25 (nineteen years ago)

nonono, you wouldn't go in ironically. You'd go in to entertain, but your entertainment would be of a different, or warped, version of the entertainment usually offered. You'd still have to be reasonably expressive and actually want to be seen by millions.

Just got offed, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:27 (nineteen years ago)

like Pete from last year.

Mark G, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:28 (nineteen years ago)

Ratings have decreased to an all-time low. Viewer focus groups have complained of "long boring talks about weirdo beardo music" and "no titties."

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:28 (nineteen years ago)

Friday's new housemate: Jonathan Miller. Nation switches to ITV.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:30 (nineteen years ago)

"i had a screaming row with the annoying homophobe, but with a certain knowing elan"

Alan, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:30 (nineteen years ago)

There'd be a delicious combination of titties AND erudite discussion! Moreover, I can tell you now I wouldn't talk about weirdo beardo music in the BB house; I may do that all the time outside, but on BB it wouldn't be at all interesting to more than about 3 viewers.

Jonathan Miller would probably be a bit too po-faced. I want people who perhaps resemble your typical BB contestant, but reveal themselves by increments (and perhaps a little acting) as being a little more sophisticated.

Just got offed, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:32 (nineteen years ago)

Police were called to the Big Brother house last night after viewers complained of a fist fight breaking out during a discussion on the merits of Derek Bailey's later work.

Tom D., Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:32 (nineteen years ago)

guys, intelligence != necessarily talking about high art/culture, the intelligence i'd like to see would be intelligence IN THE CONTEXT of normal BB activity.

Just got offed, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:36 (nineteen years ago)

"I think it was Schlegel who remarked OKAY WHICH ONE OF YOU BASTARDS HAS EATEN ALL THE EGGS?"

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:37 (nineteen years ago)

Watching the live feeds last night, BB are already editing this to try and portray a house split between the oldies and the youngies.

too early dudes

Ste, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:40 (nineteen years ago)

NV, again you're bringing in a high cultural reference. In actuality, the best response to someone eating the eggs would be to fly into a mock-rage, eloquently but noisily decrying the gluttony of modern man or whatever, but then defusing it with a sly acknowledgement of the watching cameras, or better still storming off with a wink.

Just got offed, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:42 (nineteen years ago)

No, the best response would be to beat Pete's mom unconscious with a whisk while singing "Raving I'm Raving" at the top of your lungs.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:43 (nineteen years ago)

like John McCririck? xpost naturally.

Mark G, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:43 (nineteen years ago)

did john mccririck do it as an act, or was he genuinely being a rowdy old fart?

NV that's actually quite an amusing idea, shame about actually procuring pete's mum in order to carry it out :(

Just got offed, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:45 (nineteen years ago)

She's already in there.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:46 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, Pete's "mum".

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:46 (nineteen years ago)

With the big hairy hands.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:47 (nineteen years ago)

maybe if you chased the offender around the house with a whisk, singing 'raving i'm raving' at the top of your lungs, maybe that would be ideal

wait, is carole PD's mum?!?!?!

Just got offed, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:47 (nineteen years ago)

Who was that woman who, errrrrrrrrrrr, she was a sort of lesbian, errrrrrrr, bisexual, errrrrrrrr, oh fuck I've lost interest

Tom D., Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:50 (nineteen years ago)

Pete's mum is a really impressive and fairly well-known session musician who's played with The Cure and Marc Almond.

Last autumn I was asked by someone who is a part of BB if I'd ever consider being on it, possibly because they were seeking a certain demographic? Or they wanted a range of women for this girlsworld concept. The idea intrigued me for five whole seconds, for standard-issue Rabbie Burns reasons. Contrarian American Jane Lane-ish feminist who can't resist bitchy one-liners, great in theory. It took me about another five secs to mentally calculate the YES and NO columns, and it totally came up NO, so NO was the answer, flat. In any event I would have totally pulled out because my dad is ill now.

suzy, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:52 (nineteen years ago)

This thread really could do with the return of CALUM

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:53 (nineteen years ago)

The idea intrigued me for five whole seconds, for standard-issue Rabbie Burns reasons.

Y'what?

Tom D., Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:53 (nineteen years ago)

I thought about applying for Bullseye once.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

'o what a gift the giftie gie us, to see ourselves as others see us'

suzy, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:55 (nineteen years ago)

This thread big brother really could do with the return arrival of CALUM

acrobat, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:55 (nineteen years ago)

Has a 'wee cowrin' timorous beastie' ever won BB?

Tom D., Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:57 (nineteen years ago)

The idea appeals up to a point: People seeing you at your witty best (editing notwithstanding), coping with scenarios and keeping your head while others go off on one.

But as I say, soul coinage.

xpost yeah, rabbie burns: Quite.

Mark G, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:57 (nineteen years ago)

I did tell Calum he should apply, back in the day.

But then, his threads would have been Daily Star research material.

Mark G, Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:58 (nineteen years ago)

He could be the new Shahbazz!

Tom D., Thursday, 31 May 2007 09:59 (nineteen years ago)

He was more Federico, I reckon.

Mark G, Thursday, 31 May 2007 10:00 (nineteen years ago)

I was thinking more in terms of onscreen crackup and threats of suicide

Tom D., Thursday, 31 May 2007 10:03 (nineteen years ago)

Obviously BB friend could not say if they were considering this girl thing but if they were I can see why I might have been sized up for it. "Say Emily, seeing as you're so INDIE maybe you can be the new Cynthia Plaster-Caster."

suzy, Thursday, 31 May 2007 10:11 (nineteen years ago)

I watched about five seconds of The Apprentice. Alan Sugar in his kinky leather for the Kleenex brigade as usual (didn't fuel my helicopter)..."another apprentice" and it was the usual preening pranny so that was more than enough.

DavidM, Thursday, 31 May 2007 10:24 (nineteen years ago)

My friend H was *slating* that leather jacket.

suzy, Thursday, 31 May 2007 10:29 (nineteen years ago)

o hai once again this thread provides more lolz than the show itself.

blueski, Thursday, 31 May 2007 10:33 (nineteen years ago)

LOL @ Suzy on BB:

"I knew Alex James"
Twins et al: "Who?"

kv_nol, Thursday, 31 May 2007 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

I knew Alex James:

http://www.bremen4u.de/cityguide/sport_wellness/fussball/serie/zeigler/_px/2006/mai1/bild248.jpg

Tom D., Thursday, 31 May 2007 10:49 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2004/finale/interactive/gallery.fraiser/1frasier.crane.jpg
NV, again you're bringing in a high cultural reference. In actuality, the best response to someone eating the eggs would be to fly into a mock-rage, eloquently but noisily decrying the gluttony of modern man or whatever, but then defusing it with a sly acknowledgement of the watching cameras, or better still storming off with a wink.

pete was a pretty good counter-balance for last year, he easily seemed the sanest of the lot (until he hitched up with nikki, that is)

stevie, Thursday, 31 May 2007 10:53 (nineteen years ago)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y161/MarkGrout/AlexJames.jpg

Alex is at the back, James you can see. You know the other two.

Mark G, Thursday, 31 May 2007 10:57 (nineteen years ago)

OH NO THEY IS STEALIN MY COKE

lindsaylohan.jpg

kv_nol, Thursday, 31 May 2007 11:10 (nineteen years ago)

> Has a 'wee cowrin' timorous beastie' ever won BB?

cameron?

koogs, Thursday, 31 May 2007 11:20 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever happened to Hoover-crazy Steph whom Cameron never married?

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 31 May 2007 11:22 (nineteen years ago)

The girlies are in the pool. Okay, the twins are attractive on a very obvious, superficial level, but it still counts. The head says no but the cock says yes.

DavidM, Thursday, 31 May 2007 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

one of them reminds me of Lauren Laverne just a teensy bit.

blueski, Thursday, 31 May 2007 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

The twins look like idiot versions of Lauren Laverne.

-- ailsa, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 22:19 (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

Tom D., Thursday, 31 May 2007 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

i can has indie?

Alan, Thursday, 31 May 2007 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

I imagine the twins are only in there so they can be split up and deprived of each other's company as early as possible

Tom D., Thursday, 31 May 2007 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

I'm watching last night's program on E4, and at the moment it looks like a polite teenager's birthday party, complete with parents hanging around at the back, keeping an eye on things.

I don't understand why people boo people going in.

accentmonkey, Thursday, 31 May 2007 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

she is our knebworth

acrobat, Thursday, 31 May 2007 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

The twins are hilarious. Everyone else is in the living room chatting, and they are preening themselves under the hairdryers in their bikinis. They should be called Bambi and Thumper.

accentmonkey, Thursday, 31 May 2007 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

It'll be interesting how one twin will cope when the other is voted out. In any event, both are most likely to appear on future covers of Nuts magazine wearing 'hand-bras'.

DavidM, Thursday, 31 May 2007 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

OK, now Where's Grimly?

*waves*

i was watching "the apprentice", in a farmhouse in arran. (it was pish.) then i watched "you're fired". then i had a cup of tea and read some of "voyage to the end of the room" by tibor fischer (readably disappointing; like douglas adams-lite, which does neither TF nor the ghost of DA any favours).

mrs fiendish flicked over to BBBM for 30 seconds and said she almost lost the will to live. i had a look at the "meet the contestants" thread today in my father-in-law's d***y e*p**s* [1] and decided that my decision to avoid this fucking thing like the plague was one of the best i'd ever made.

the only thing i can say i vaguely missed was the JOY OF LIVE ILX PISS-TAKING. but there ain't no wifi here anyway, so too bad. catching up with this thread now has confirmed some of my worst fears, ie i might well have popped some kind of important vein in my forehead had i watched this.

even "big louis" or whatever we'd call it would be marginally preferable. although i can't stress the "marginally" bit enough ;)

Emily has younger twin sisters. They are 'paris hiltonlike'.

GOSH, DO WE THINK THEY MIGHT COME INTO THE HOUSE TOO?

[footnote 1] i know, i know. i think he still holds on to the faint hope that it might one day become faintly readable again.

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 31 May 2007 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

"THERE'S A NEW MUSIC TAKING OVER THE COUNTRY AND IT'S CALLED INDIE"

I knew this would be the stand out phrase on this thread as soon as she said it.

I like the mad pink twins, but I'm sure their screeching will get to me after a while.

Gender of winner odds:
Male 8 - 11
Female evens
Transexual 18 - 1

onimo, Thursday, 31 May 2007 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

"Well we'll just have to face it. There's no ramekins."

Lesley ftw :)

onimo, Thursday, 31 May 2007 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

just watched the launch show and am shaken shitless

nicky was OK until calum best

emily was almost OK but is not OK

alba was funny so far again

hating the oven in bedroom fridge in garden EAT WET COLD DRY pish

RJG, Thursday, 31 May 2007 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

nicky was OK until calum best

I can't parse this sentence.

accentmonkey, Thursday, 31 May 2007 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

just tried to watch big brother's big mouth but chris moyles

RJG, Thursday, 31 May 2007 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

why because intrsting?

Mark G, Thursday, 31 May 2007 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

don't know what that means

RJG, Thursday, 31 May 2007 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/Juror8/poster8224459.jpg

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 31 May 2007 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

OK, the Barbie Twins are studying to be social workers.

ailsa, Thursday, 31 May 2007 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

dom has won the day

Just got offed, Thursday, 31 May 2007 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

"that's my bed in the corner - the production team told me earlier"

WTF?

jed_, Thursday, 31 May 2007 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

Laura's response when she reiterated it: "oh, i don't think anyone told you that, love"

jed_, Thursday, 31 May 2007 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

Shabnam is new Worst Housemate Ever! Also Charley.

Oh God "we'd like to make a request for..."

"PENISES!"

ailsa, Thursday, 31 May 2007 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

"that's my bed in the corner - the production team told me earlier"

who?

RJG, Thursday, 31 May 2007 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

leslie - the old woman.

jed_, Thursday, 31 May 2007 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

ah, yes, she is old

RJG, Thursday, 31 May 2007 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

old for BB.

amazingly i rather like some of them.

Carol is pretty great, Nikki seems nice, if well connected. i like the old raver chick and also welsh laura.

jed_, Thursday, 31 May 2007 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

just watched two vids at random on the C4 site:

1) lesley being a bit awkward when laura, chanelle and nicky are talking about breasts

2) lesley being a bit awkward when practising breakdancing

wonder if this is the direction it'll take

RJG, Thursday, 31 May 2007 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

more old leslie:

"i'm not that stupid, i know amy winehouse but i couldn't tell arctic monkey from franz ferdinand or whatever"

jed_, Thursday, 31 May 2007 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

I like Tracey & Carole and possibly think Chanelle may be the least bad of the "bimbo" ones (bear in mind I liked Nikki at this stage last year so am evidently not to be trusted). Laura has grown on me somewhat since last night, but she kind of needs to stop talking sometimes. Mind you, if she drowns out the insane babbling of Shabnam, it can only be a good thing.

btw, translation for accentmonkey: "Nicky seemed OK then she said if she had to shag any celebrity it would be Calum (son of George) Best"

Chanelle said she wanted to be a WAG, so I revise my right to reverse my opinion of her not being as bad as the other blondies (Charley is honorary blondie for this purpose, OK)

ailsa, Thursday, 31 May 2007 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

I think Lesley should get indiequeen Emily to explain Franz Ferdinand and the Arctic Monkeys to her.

ailsa, Thursday, 31 May 2007 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

is lily allen indie?

RJG, Thursday, 31 May 2007 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

I have to give up BB and this thread. GF speaks (horribly hypocritical) truth!

kv_nol, Thursday, 31 May 2007 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

what did he say?

RJG, Thursday, 31 May 2007 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

Okay this was the first time I watched properly:

The Twins - Seem sweet enough if fucking shrill and hyperactive. They could be lovely once they settle down. If they settle down.

Lesley - Will be a cantankerous nightmare, that line about having to get her own way was foreshadowing.

Carole - I think she is used to hanging around with The Kids, so is a stayer.

Charley - This year's WORST HOUSEMATE EVER.

Emily - Hasn't said much but you can tell she's appalling.

Laura - Hooray! We liked her.

Nicky - Was she the Mother Theresa orphanage one? Dunno, seemed alright.

Chanelle - Has that 'nasty sidekick to evil bullying ringleader' kind of vibe to her.

Shabnan - Is going to be terrible, you can tell, but has had very little camera time thus far.

Tracey - Die.

The Bloke Who Goes In On Friday - Had better be a creepy old man or a new Eugene or else.

Matt DC, Thursday, 31 May 2007 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

which one is the farmer-witch pink-hair lass again?

Just got offed, Thursday, 31 May 2007 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

she's clearly trouble

Just got offed, Thursday, 31 May 2007 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

as opposed to most of the others who are clearly just very very irritating

Just got offed, Thursday, 31 May 2007 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

"I got a distinction in my music exam."
"Distinction? Is that bad? It sounds like disgusting."

V, Thursday, 31 May 2007 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

Been out tonight; my friend told me she's met Carole and she's utterly bonkers but very nice. So there you go.

chap, Friday, 1 June 2007 01:22 (nineteen years ago)

Carole is (allegedly) utterly bonkers but very nice that is - my friend is just very nice.

chap, Friday, 1 June 2007 01:35 (nineteen years ago)

she supports Respect thou, that makes me kinda queasy about her. does she ever call people comrades? i'm not keen on people who call you comrade. i couldn't watch more than a few minutes last night, it seemed over balanced and embarassing.

acrobat, Friday, 1 June 2007 07:55 (nineteen years ago)

> but i couldn't tell arctic monkey from franz ferdinand or whatever"

didn't she call them Franks Ferdinand?

i only caught 5 minutes having decided to watch Imagine instead. was about surrealism and was good. i has a culture.

koogs, Friday, 1 June 2007 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

i did enjoy watching the twins bouncing around the sofas at 3am though. social workers.

koogs, Friday, 1 June 2007 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

i'm not keen on people who call you comrade.

Happens all the time does it?

Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

[LJ on Davina:] "so rather than being the kind of lady we want to screw, she's the kind of lady we want looking after our kids"

Confused? You will be...

-- Tom D., Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:18 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

still roffling at this

That one guy that quit, Friday, 1 June 2007 09:59 (nineteen years ago)

just watched the launch show and am shaken shitless

[...]

-- RJG, Thursday, May 31, 2007 6:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

why?

That one guy that quit, Friday, 1 June 2007 10:06 (nineteen years ago)

Happens all the time does it?

-- Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 09:56 (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

if you dawdle too long by SWP stalls, yes.

acrobat, Friday, 1 June 2007 10:15 (nineteen years ago)

shaun wright-phillips lol

Just got offed, Friday, 1 June 2007 10:18 (nineteen years ago)

No-one's ever called me comrade :(

Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 10:20 (nineteen years ago)

is there an eviction tonight? or is it just the new guy entrance?

Ste, Friday, 1 June 2007 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

Win odds:

Laura 15/8
Carole 3
Nicky 8
Tracey 8
Amanda 14
Chanelle 14
Emily 14
Sam 14
Shabnam 18
Lesley 20
Charley 28

Mark G, Friday, 1 June 2007 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

new guy to be gay, ugly, or louis jagger.

That one guy that quit, Friday, 1 June 2007 10:23 (nineteen years ago)

Are they all mutually exclusive?

onimo, Friday, 1 June 2007 10:24 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, shaun wright-phillips is often looking to recruit impressionable young folks for his much delayed proletarian revolution. It’s a pain. He’s always hanging about, suckering you in with his “Stop the War” platitudes and then trying to get you to pledge support for Hamas. It’s getting a nuisance. He has a stall outside my house. I can only go out when I know he’s playing football.

xp

acrobat, Friday, 1 June 2007 10:24 (nineteen years ago)

carole said "I am gonna shake it summink rotten and...they will be shaken shitless"

RJG, Friday, 1 June 2007 10:29 (nineteen years ago)

as far as i'm aware, it's possible to be gay and ugly, but but the odds are very much against.

if the new guy is gay, no offence, but it will actually make things worse. i think ugly would be much more entertaining.

Just got offed, Friday, 1 June 2007 10:30 (nineteen years ago)

Bring back Kitten.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 1 June 2007 10:30 (nineteen years ago)

it's possible to be gay and ugly, but but the odds are very much against.

Wha?

Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 10:32 (nineteen years ago)

She's probably in here: lolcat library
xpost

Mark G, Friday, 1 June 2007 10:32 (nineteen years ago)

I liked Kitten! The manner in which she and Victor grew into a state of mutual respect (the one a hardcore feminist, the other a rampant misogynist) was one of the few genuinely heartwarming things ever to have happened on the show.

Tom, I was jesting at Onimo's zing, but srsly, how many ugly gay guys do you know? I'm willing to bet not many.

Just got offed, Friday, 1 June 2007 10:34 (nineteen years ago)

<countdown to picture of LJ in drag>

aldo, Friday, 1 June 2007 10:35 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/icanimages/images/russellgrant170.jpg

Dom Passantino, Friday, 1 June 2007 10:37 (nineteen years ago)

Tom, I was jesting at Onimo's zing, but srsly, how many ugly gay guys do you know? I'm willing to bet not many.

Come to a FAP some time! *joke*

Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 10:38 (nineteen years ago)

Susan Stranks - what a great name that was

Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

And what a wrong thread this was to post that in

Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 10:41 (nineteen years ago)

didn't she call them Franks Ferdinand?

It sounded like France Ferdinand, but I figured she was pronouncing the z in Franz the German way (Frantz). She'd have heard of the bloke before, surely, if not the band.

V, Friday, 1 June 2007 11:21 (nineteen years ago)

Tom, I was jesting at Onimo's zing, but srsly, how many ugly gay guys do you know? I'm willing to bet not many.

is this the kind of thing all the Louis Jagger hype is about?

RJG, Friday, 1 June 2007 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

oh god someone is about to repost one of my genuinely outrageous moments, PLEASE DON'T DO IT PLEASE :-(

Just got offed, Friday, 1 June 2007 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

PROTESTETH TOO MUCH

aldo, Friday, 1 June 2007 11:29 (nineteen years ago)

also, if you want to refer to me by name, PLEASE USE TEH G00GL3PR00F1NG T3CHN0L0GY

Just got offed, Friday, 1 June 2007 11:29 (nineteen years ago)

to stop ugly gay guys from finding you?

RJG, Friday, 1 June 2007 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

Angry at your refusal to acknowledge their existence?

Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

come on, have you ever seen a gay guy angry, ugly or not?

RJG, Friday, 1 June 2007 11:40 (nineteen years ago)

http://graphics.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/siredwardheath2.jpg

Dom Passantino, Friday, 1 June 2007 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

xpost: yes!

Just got offed, Friday, 1 June 2007 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, BACK ON BIG CUNTING BROTHER:

Heavy speculation the twins are being treated as a single contestant.

aldo, Friday, 1 June 2007 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

But it'd cause them loads more psychological damage and anguish if they were split up, so surely that's what will happen?

Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, but could they make any worse noise?

aldo, Friday, 1 June 2007 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

why do they want incest vibe?

That one guy that quit, Friday, 1 June 2007 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

Because they can't get away with paeodphilia vibe?

Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

They are both at Manchester Metropolitan studying Social Care. When asked last night what they wanted to do with their degrees, they replied "become fashion designers".

aldo, Friday, 1 June 2007 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

Emily is a drama student who wants to edit a fashion mag. I wonder if any of them listed "vocational" as a favourite word.

onimo, Friday, 1 June 2007 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

I think Emily's dad works on our site.

aldo, Friday, 1 June 2007 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

A building site?

Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

camp site?

Ste, Friday, 1 June 2007 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

Chanelle: "my theory is, if there weren't any trees, there wouldn't be any wind".

DavidM, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

is that her real name?

That one guy that quit, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

there wouldn't be much of anything else either.

xp

Ste, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

OK, WTF, Charley (!) and Shabnam (!) attack the others for being shallow (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bigbrother8/a58664/shallow-housemates-come-under-attack.html).

Shabnam also has the worst makeup I have seen since Scary Mary Witchy Woman from whatever year that was.

ailsa, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

I think Charley may actually be Kieran Richardson instead of a cousin.

aldo, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

Kieran Richardson is prettier

Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

Shabnam also has the worst makeup I have seen since Scary Mary Witchy Woman from whatever year that was.

because of her name and her make up I have mentally catalogued her as a cross between Scary Mary and Shahbaz.

onimo, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

i haven't time to read all 400 post behind the cut, but i assume the theory that they are, in fact, all trannies has already been discussed?

CarsmileSteve, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, shit, I am looking at E4 right now and thinking "OMG, they all totally ARE/WERE men!", thanks Steve.

ailsa, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

a lot of them do look mannish facially but a fair few have pins on 'em, lady-style.

That one guy that quit, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Charley certainly has

Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

i think i win at getting the trannie word in a prediction:

twist is that 5 of them are actually trannies, amirite?

-- Alan, Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:41 PM

Alan, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

haha, i lied, i did have enough time to read it all, oh wells, who wants to do work anyways...

CarsmileSteve, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Moyles was at pains to refute anyone saying anyone was a trannie, even in jest.

Someone's got a good lawyer! (from years past!)

Mark G, Friday, 1 June 2007 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

why oh why is it fucking chris moyles? i'm on the verge of saying EVEN ALEX ZANE WOULD BE PREFERABLE.

That one guy that quit, Friday, 1 June 2007 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

it's weird is Russ B too big, ie too expensive, for BBBM now? everything he's done on TV since has flopped, i liked him on BBBM a lot.

acrobat, Friday, 1 June 2007 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

i thought Moyles was temporary, like they were just going to have a series of guest BBBM hosts. can't remember where i got the idea from, though.

Gukbe, Friday, 1 June 2007 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

also, the audio version of dom's indie post way upthread: http://www.popjustice.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1181&Itemid=265

Gukbe, Friday, 1 June 2007 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

i also think they are having a series of BBBM guest hosts this year. i think RB is doing a film isn't he?

CarsmileSteve, Friday, 1 June 2007 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

He's doing the film version of St Trinians in the George Cole role. Yeah, I despair as well.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 1 June 2007 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

he's in a film w steve carrell too tho? he's shit in every context i've seen him in other than bbbm.

That one guy that quit, Friday, 1 June 2007 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

George Galloway is taking over from Chris Moyles.

Mark G, Friday, 1 June 2007 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

I heard Peaches Geldof was lined up as well.

This is almost enough to reflect well on the people in the house.

Matt DC, Friday, 1 June 2007 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

he's shit in every context i've seen him in other than bbbm.

That thing where he took the piss out of the Junior 8NP guy was good.

onimo, Friday, 1 June 2007 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

I was just trying to remember if that was him or just someone who looked like him! Was that his first show on telly? I remember watching that one and the one where he went to gay bars in Soho trying to find someone to wank off.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 1 June 2007 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Re:Brand was after his spell as an MTV VJ wasn't he?

Dom Passantino, Friday, 1 June 2007 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Actor:

* In Production
* 2000s

1. Forgetting Sarah Marshall (2008) (filming) .... Aldous Snow
2. St. Trinian's (2007) (post-production) .... Flash Harry

3. The Abbey (2007) (TV) .... Terry
4. Penelope (2006)
5. ShockWaves NME Awards (2006) (TV) .... Presenter
6. "Blessed" .... Tommy (1 episode, 2005)
- Who Wrote the Book of Love? (The Undertones) (2005) TV Episode .... Tommy
7. A Bear's Christmas Tail (2004) (TV) .... Mr. Wolf
8. Cruise of the Gods (2002) (TV) .... Woolly Hat Fan
9. White Teeth (2002) (TV) .... Merlin
10. A Brief History of Cuba in D Minor (2001) (voice)

Writer:

1. "Got Issues" (2 episodes, 2006)
... aka Russell Brand's Got Issues (UK: complete title)
- Is Sex Fucking Us Up? (2006) TV Episode (written by)
- Yobs: Is It Time to Fight Back? (2006) TV Episode

Self:

1. Comic Relief 2007: The Big One (2007) (TV) .... Himself - Host
2. Brit Awards 2007 (2007) (TV) .... Himself
3. "Breakfast" .... Himself (1 episode, 2007)
- Episode dated 31 January 2007 (2007) TV Episode .... Himself
4. "Big Brother's Efourum" .... Presenter / ... (65 episodes, 2004-2007)
... aka Big Brother's Big Mouth (UK: new title)
- Episode dated 28 January 2007 (2007) TV Episode .... Presenter
- Episode #5.6 (2007) TV Episode .... Himself - Presenter
- Episode #4.15 (2006) TV Episode .... Presenter
- Episode #4.2 (2006) TV Episode .... Presenter
- Episode #4.1 (2006) TV Episode .... Presenter
(60 more)
5. Comic Relief Does Little Britain: Live (2007) (V) .... Himself
6. The Big Fat Quiz of the Year (2006) (TV) .... Contestant
7. "The Russell Brand Show" .... Himself - Host (1 episode, 2006)
- Episode #1.5 (2006) TV Episode .... Himself - Host
8. The British Comedy Awards 2006 Live (2006) (TV) .... Himself
9. The Secret Policeman's Ball: The Ball in the Hall (2006) (TV) .... Himself
10. The Secret Policeman's Ball (2006) (TV) .... Himself
... aka The Secret Policeman's Ball 2006 (Australia)
11. "Got Issues" .... Himself - Presenter (6 episodes, 2006)
... aka Russell Brand's Got Issues (UK: complete title)
- Does True Love Exist? (2006) TV Episode .... Himself - Presenter
- The Nature of Celebrity (2006) TV Episode .... Himself - Presenter
- The Paranormal (2006) TV Episode .... Himself - Presenter
- Is Sex Fucking Us Up? (2006) TV Episode .... Himself - Presenter
- Yobs: Is It Time to Fight Back? (2006) TV Episode .... Himself - Presenter
(1 more)
12. "Friday Night with Jonathan Ross" .... Himself (1 episode, 2006)
- Episode #10.7 (2006) TV Episode .... Himself
13. "1 Leicester Square" (2006) TV Series .... Host (unknown episodes)
14. "Richard & Judy" .... Himself (1 episode, 2006)
- Episode dated 27 January 2006 (2006) TV Episode .... Himself
15. "Kings of Comedy" (2004) TV Series .... Presenter

Dom Passantino, Friday, 1 June 2007 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

He was in Blessed? And Cruise of the Gods? And White Teeth? Why don't I remember any of this?

Dom Passantino, Friday, 1 June 2007 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

his stand up, from what i've seen, seems ok in an undemanding way.

acrobat, Friday, 1 June 2007 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

Ahh, the summer of 2005..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3AtKKg98vM

NI, Friday, 1 June 2007 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

brand's catchphrases on bbbm were v annoying and offputting but he was a good host really. not a good comedian. the 8NP thing was a bit...easy. he isn't v flash is he? re: flash harry

think moyles has it for the whole first week? wonder what galloway will say re: carole

RJG, Friday, 1 June 2007 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't know there was another newcastle. bb is totally edumucatoinal

Gukbe, Friday, 1 June 2007 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

Newcastle under Lyme?

Noodle Vague, Friday, 1 June 2007 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, that one.

Gukbe, Friday, 1 June 2007 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

apparently the daily record didn't either, so i'm in good company.

Gukbe, Friday, 1 June 2007 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

no you are not

RJG, Friday, 1 June 2007 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

am too. they gave out vouchers for free subway sandwiches.

Gukbe, Friday, 1 June 2007 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

(I only know it exists cos I grew up in Staffordshire.)

Noodle Vague, Friday, 1 June 2007 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

potter !

Geordie Racer, Friday, 1 June 2007 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

mrs fiendish is watching this. i'm sulking in the kitchen.

grimly fiendish, Friday, 1 June 2007 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, this is Kieran Richardson's cuz.

-- Dom Passantino, Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

If she survives to, say, Week 3, expect a lot of crying.

-- Dom Passantino, Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:32 PM (Yesterday)

Nice call.

V, Friday, 1 June 2007 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

Although it's only day 2

V, Friday, 1 June 2007 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

So far I like Carole and Laura. And I hate Lesley, Shabnam, and Charley. Everyone else could go either way right now.

accentmonkey, Friday, 1 June 2007 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

I don't mean "hate", really. Just dislike.

accentmonkey, Friday, 1 June 2007 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

charley cried on day one, when she got booed going in. elephantine ego in wafer-thin skin shock.

That one guy that quit, Friday, 1 June 2007 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus, the instant they were gone into the diary room to collect their trophies she just went "silly bitches". Fuck's sake, she's pretty unpleasant already.

accentmonkey, Friday, 1 June 2007 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

Aye, and moaned about how she should have been on their team. Ugh, ungracious, selfish, self-obsessed and completely and totally hateful.

CHARLEY MUST GO!!!! ^ 10000000000

ailsa, Friday, 1 June 2007 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

In the bit I just watched Lesley was lying to Emily that she's 72 and her husband fought in D-Day. Emily is too thick to realise that even if Lesley were 72, she would've been 9 in 1944.

chap, Friday, 1 June 2007 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that was when I turned over from the football to see what was happening.

I mean, it is actually possible that someone who was 9 in 1944 could have married someone a bit older than them who actually did fight then, but the whole "what year were you born in" "I told you how old I am, work it out" "but I don't know when your birthday is" conversation = Emily must go (after Charley).

ailsa, Friday, 1 June 2007 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure if Emily's faults are ones of character or just her age and upbringing. She could possibly get nicer as the programme goes on. There is no hope for Charley.

accentmonkey, Friday, 1 June 2007 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

just watched most of koogy's imagine surrealism programme which may as well have been presented by chris moyles

RJG, Friday, 1 June 2007 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

btw, the diary room chair is all kinds of awful.

ailsa, Friday, 1 June 2007 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

koogy is alan yentob???

That one guy that quit, Friday, 1 June 2007 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

it's going to be some mad woman hater.

jed_, Friday, 1 June 2007 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

Ziggy OMG!

(he's that dude that Digital Spy unearthed earlier, isn't he? Shagged several z-list celebs)

ailsa, Friday, 1 June 2007 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

shell of a man

That one guy that quit, Friday, 1 June 2007 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

Damn, I wanted it to be a 25 year old virgin, or a bishop or something.

V, Friday, 1 June 2007 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

his proudest moment was the billboard or j lo's bbq?

That one guy that quit, Friday, 1 June 2007 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bigbrotherwebsite.net/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1180769313&archive=&start_from=&ucat=2&

Aye, that is what I was on about. I read this earlier tday.

ailsa, Friday, 1 June 2007 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

this guy is really relishing being the only man in there but its going to totally backfire isnt it?

or maybe theyre all just going to be clawing each others eyes out to win his affections. in which case it will er, forwardfire.

looks like its going to be better* than i thought this year.

*more annoying

titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 1 June 2007 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

he wasn't quite as bad as his VT made him seem. carole is really rather nice, isn't she?

jed_, Friday, 1 June 2007 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

Aw, bless Carole being all sensible and explaining where the toilets are and stuff while the rest of them all preen.

I predict I will be calling for Charley-centric nuclear holocaust within about three seconds of watching her trying and failing to pull Ziggy.

xxposts

ailsa, Friday, 1 June 2007 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

My god they've sent Fabio into the house. I predict he'll have got a bit rapey by next Wednesday.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 1 June 2007 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

Quite funny that Ziggy BlandDust chose Carole as his guide to the house at the end there - I guess he wants to bide his time and observe before picking out which of the hotties to favour.

Archel, Friday, 1 June 2007 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

I reckon Lesley and Tracey face off in the public vote. Unless one of them's walked by then, which looks quite possible. In which case Charley FTL.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 1 June 2007 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

beefcake!

if you unfocus your eyes, you can kind of see a bit of christian bale.

Gukbe, Friday, 1 June 2007 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

Politically, she considers herself to be right wing and will be voting Conservative in the next election. She says she has no time for benefit cheats, and believes everyone has a right to education, to make money and to keep it.

She’s a big Blondie fan, and her current favourite music includes Lily Allen, and new rave acts like CSS and the Klaxons. Her motto is “Live life to the fullest, like it’s your last. Enjoy what’s around you and what’s given to you”.

acrobat, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

"Live life to the fullest, like it’s your last."

she is a BUDDHIST

Just got offed, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

I saw a bit of Christian Bale too. He's fit!

I like Charley because none of the other girls seem likely to instigate any drama. Sort of like Laura was saying, how I can't picture the girls having fights...well, I can picture fights but only with Charley somehow involved.

musically, Saturday, 2 June 2007 06:24 (nineteen years ago)

I saw a bit of Christian Bale too.

I saw a bit of Jonathon Morris (Adrian the fey writer one from Carla Lane's Bread).

I missed his VT on the repeat this morning but he seems okay so far.

onimo, Saturday, 2 June 2007 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

He is proud of his boyband days and enjoyed writing their hits

What boy band was he in then?

onimo, Saturday, 2 June 2007 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

something called Northern Line.

jed_, Saturday, 2 June 2007 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

I remember them.

http://www.ukmix.org/images/reviews/2000/s_northernline.gif

onimo, Saturday, 2 June 2007 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

Wiki says they scaled the dizzy heights of 15th in the UK chart with "Love on the Northern Line" and Ziggy's name is Zak Lichman.

onimo, Saturday, 2 June 2007 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

He dated, or is dating, Suzanne Shaw from Hear'Say.

How many Celebs that have appeared on CBB can boast such a CV?

onimo, Saturday, 2 June 2007 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

He doesn't seem like a bad guy. Though I seriously reckon he was GAMING them all when he spent so long speaking to Carole.

He strikes me as one of those people who make an attempt to give everyone their absolute undivided attention. All that "really? uh huh. yeah. yeah" as if he is completely rapt when he is probably thinking which one of them to sleaze on first.

Ronan, Saturday, 2 June 2007 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

yr right about the rapt attention thing.

jed_, Saturday, 2 June 2007 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

this guy is really relishing being the only man in there

That's what he said. He actually looked slightly terrified. Admittedly I've only seen ten minutes of the guy.

chap, Saturday, 2 June 2007 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

How many Celebs that have appeared on CBB can boast such a CV?

this is exactly what i said when i read about him in the paper today (i still haven't seen so much as a nanosecond of this, and i carry that with all the pride of a fusty high-court judge): surely some chumpazoid who used to be in a boyband etc etc would be a fucking shoo-in for CBB? ach.

anyway. this thread is fun. tick tick vg keep it up.

grimly fiendish, Saturday, 2 June 2007 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

I liked chanelle's "a small career"

RJG, Saturday, 2 June 2007 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

he is not 26 and does not have any lips

RJG, Saturday, 2 June 2007 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

There's nothing special about being 26.

onimo, Saturday, 2 June 2007 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

I'd happily give it another go.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 2 June 2007 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

what about the lips?

RJG, Saturday, 2 June 2007 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

Ziggy sounds exactly like Cliff Richard when he talks

nate woolls, Saturday, 2 June 2007 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

I would love to be 26 again! Great year. Was on the dole for most of it after being made redundant so I had some money to spend whilst slacking. Had my birthday in NYC. Met Mrs Poo. Might possibly be best year ever.

Haven't watched BB at all today, I guess I didn't miss much going on lack of thread action, but that could be due to ILX0rs having more lives than me.

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 2 June 2007 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, "Mrs Poo"

I'm being oddly nostalgic for being 26. It was a pretty good year, all told.

I haven't seen any BB today, but will be rectifying that in a couple of minutes when it starts back on E4 again.

ailsa, Saturday, 2 June 2007 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

26 was an awesome age. I was finally over early 20s existentialism crisis and just ready to have fun.

Mrs Poo is responsible for me being called Colonel Poo in the first place so she gets what she deserves :P

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 2 June 2007 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

OK, Charley, STFU.

She has just talked for about five minutes without saying anything at all (she appears to be trying to elicit the opinions of others about what they think of her. no-one appears to be arsed at all about her bleating)

ailsa, Saturday, 2 June 2007 23:33 (nineteen years ago)

: (

RJG, Saturday, 2 June 2007 23:33 (nineteen years ago)

"so, like, I'm saying, like, I just want to know, like, what you think of me, like, right? Because, right, I want to know, what you think, like, right? I'm not, like, going to change, right, but I just want to know, like? Right?" etc etc

(ha, Chanelle is telling her that she's quite rude and self-centred. She's not liking it much, or, unsurprisingly, shutting up enough to actually listen)

ailsa, Saturday, 2 June 2007 23:37 (nineteen years ago)

Bah, crying Charley being comforted by Shabnam, Ziggy walks in, Shabnam explains to him that her and Charley are the most real people in the house and he should be their friend not the rest of them or somesuch then E4 cuts to adverts, bah. That must be the lolz they're keeping for the highlights show.

(Ziggy non too impressed, btw)

And we're back. Charley has now decided that it's just because everyone's jealous of her.

ailsa, Saturday, 2 June 2007 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

The temptation to lean close to Charley and hiss "Worst...Sex-change...Ever" in her face would've got to me by now.

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 3 June 2007 07:54 (nineteen years ago)

OK, Charley, STFU.

Yeah, I saw all that. Jesus what a pain in the arse. Being all confrontational then retreating to the bedroom to turn on the tears "I just miss my family".

lookatmeattentionwhore.jpg

DavidM, Sunday, 3 June 2007 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

btw, people "I'm like a strong princess with my strong hair" (or similar). This, ladies and gentlemen, is Shabnam's assessment of herself.

She is rapidly becoming the Craig Coates to Charley's Anthony Hutton. Though I feel she has pretty much backed the wrong horse.

ailsa, Sunday, 3 June 2007 10:49 (nineteen years ago)

He strikes me as one of those people who make an attempt to give everyone their absolute undivided attention. All that "really? uh huh. yeah. yeah" as if he is completely rapt when he is probably thinking which one of them to sleaze on first.

-- Ronan, Saturday, June 2, 2007 11:52 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

"active listening"

That one guy that quit, Sunday, 3 June 2007 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

Incidentally, does this mean we can have an all-female Trig Brother this year? Until the second pub when we drop, say, Pete, in there and they all fall over themselves trying to have sex with him?

Matt DC, Sunday, 3 June 2007 10:56 (nineteen years ago)

In the bit I just watched Lesley was lying to Emily that she's 72 and her husband fought in D-Day. Emily is too thick to realise that even if Lesley were 72, she would've been 9 in 1944.

According to this, Lesley's husband is 23 years her senior, which makes him 83, so old enough to have fought in the D-Day landings. (note that I'm not saying Emily's not thick)

ailsa, Sunday, 3 June 2007 11:12 (nineteen years ago)

The closer the camera is to Ziggy's face the more he looks like Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman. I half expect him to go 'psycho' with an axe and a nail gun sometime soon.

DavidM, Sunday, 3 June 2007 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

he gave a very bateman-esque expression when walking into the house. I think it was when he was stood in front of the large video screen of himself. If so, it would make a great screengrab.

So was there now BB recap show last night? Are sunday's shows just the whole weekend?

Gukbe, Sunday, 3 June 2007 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

the saturday show was always shit cos the friday show covered the whole of friday, kind of thing.

That one guy that quit, Sunday, 3 June 2007 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

The tabloids have really outdone themselves today.

suzy, Sunday, 3 June 2007 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

'But Imogen was also stunned at how controlled the usually flamboyant celeb was in the sack. "He's not like he is on TV. He's much calmer and never mentioned his dinkle once."'

That one guy that quit, Sunday, 3 June 2007 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

"my typical day would be I wake up in the morning and I'd walk my dog molly maybe go to the gym and then I would get myself ready for the evening"

RJG, Sunday, 3 June 2007 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Stupid cunty wannabe football slapper has been getting advice from stupid once was football slapper on life in the BB house.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news_detail.html?sku=1801

You'd think Dani'd be somewhere around the top 5 of 'last people on earth you'd ask for BB advice'

It's girls a-Lloyd omg get new punster

onimo, Sunday, 3 June 2007 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

SUNDAY IS THE NEW SUNDAY

EMILY HAD SKINNY JEANS 3 1/2 YEARS AGO

Gukbe, Sunday, 3 June 2007 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

SATURDAY!

Gukbe, Sunday, 3 June 2007 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

suck up each other's arses is back!

Gukbe, Sunday, 3 June 2007 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

THERE'S A NEW MUSIC TAKING OVER THE COUNTRY AND IT'S CALLED INDIE

onimo, Sunday, 3 June 2007 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Ziggy's a prat.

chap, Sunday, 3 June 2007 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

i don't hate ziggy at the moment.

Gukbe, Sunday, 3 June 2007 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

What does indie sound like? I don't want to miss out on the zeitgeist.

onimo, Sunday, 3 June 2007 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

the kooks.

Gukbe, Sunday, 3 June 2007 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

klaxons. css. nu-rave for a nu-generation. 'ave it!

Gukbe, Sunday, 3 June 2007 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

I missed tonight's episode by being in the pub. I'm hoping nothing happened.

onimo, Sunday, 3 June 2007 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

I think I should be applauded for 'zeitgeist' - just for the spelling.

onimo, Sunday, 3 June 2007 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

I should twitter on here some more as there's an omg racial thread bubbling under.

onimo, Sunday, 3 June 2007 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

it is still on.

Gukbe, Sunday, 3 June 2007 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

he has a similar demeanour to gordon ramsay, though less distracted (i.e. 'fake rapt')

czn, Sunday, 3 June 2007 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

i don't hate ziggy at the moment.

Oh, me neither particularly, he's not a cock or anything. He is a prat though. Nicky continues to seem like a genuinely nice, well brought-up person.

chap, Sunday, 3 June 2007 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

MRS FIENDISH HAS JUST FLICKED OVER TO THIS ON E4.

ZIGGY IS KISSING SOME WELSH GIRL IN A PLATONIC MANNER.

THEY APPEAR TO BE ON A "DINNER DATE".

this is vvv dull. and the cheese looks rank.

grimly fiendish, Sunday, 3 June 2007 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

nb: i'm not watching it. i'm merely observing.

mrs fiendish says ziggy looks like "the bloke out of bread".

he's less of a git than i'd have expected.

grimly fiendish, Sunday, 3 June 2007 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

im feeling a bit sorry for ziggy. he keeps trying to show hes totally okay with it and happy being with so many lovely looking girls but i think hes shitting himself.

titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 3 June 2007 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

mrs fiendish says ziggy looks like "the bloke out of bread".

I said that earlier in the thread somewhere, though I'm kind of coming round to the American Psycho consensus.

I can't remember posting all that crap I posted a couple of hours ago.

I'm starting to pine for 26, as I'm rapidly approaching 36 ;_;

I read my mate's paper in the pub and it said Charley was claiming to be mature and said something like "I'm a year and a bit older than most of these girls!" I wish I was young enough to still count fractions of years.

onimo, Sunday, 3 June 2007 23:59 (nineteen years ago)

THERE'S A NEW MUSIC THAT'S TAKING OVER THE INDIE AND IT'S CALLED COUNTRY
http://www.bugmusic.com/media/images/ryan_adams.jpg

Mark G, Monday, 4 June 2007 07:37 (nineteen years ago)

Last night = Total Comedy Genius

Skinny Jeans
Charley - "Everybody's a bitch except me"
Billy No-Lips - "Please don't make me sleep next to Charley again"
Indie Posho taking Charley apart re. name-dropping
Lesley predictably wanting to break free (but she's still there last night on the live feeds)

I'm now heartbroken that Charley will be evicted come Friday cos she's a one-woman roffle machine.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 4 June 2007 08:41 (nineteen years ago)

'they behead women - thats why theres terrorists'
that was a good moment

titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 4 June 2007 08:54 (nineteen years ago)

just testing something

Ste, Monday, 4 June 2007 10:17 (nineteen years ago)

I like Emily! She's funny/odd. And she's managed to zing both Tracey and Charley, so far.

DavidM, Monday, 4 June 2007 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

Tracy/Charley/Shabnam = Axis of TVs.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 4 June 2007 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

I predict Shabnam and Charley will be up for eviction and Shabnam will be booted out because she provides less hilarity (always keep the bitch in for the first few weeks, right?)

Alternative scenario: Leslie - because she wants to go home anyway - and Charley, in which case I don't know who would win.

Last night's On The Couch was hilarious. I'm glad they picked out Ch. running off to the bedroom to cry, being followed by her cronies, then standing on the bench to raise herself up as their leader. I also enjoyed watching Leslie making Charley and Shabnam (?) do the aggressive power walk.

Madchen, Monday, 4 June 2007 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

And the skinny jeans/namedropping fite was priceless.

This year is turning out to be a good year. Grimly, you're making a mistake.

Madchen, Monday, 4 June 2007 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

I'm enjoying it more than I have done in years. But I am also smoking a lot, so this might be connected.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 4 June 2007 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

meh.

grimly fiendish, Monday, 4 June 2007 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I am enjoying this year after not watching at all for the past three years (maybe that's why though). Do you know what, if you watch the online simulcast you get soothing music instead of adverts, it's great! However, I don't think I can take much more of Charley. Too awful even to be entertaining after a while. I can't begin to imagine what her game plan is except flashing the cameras regularly to avoid eviction, if not nomination.

I predict/hope that Ziggy will nominate Charley (out of naked terror) and Lesley (out of pity).

Archel, Monday, 4 June 2007 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure Charley doesn't have a "plan".

Noodle Vague, Monday, 4 June 2007 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

its a shame none of the younger women seem very smart. carole and the other middle aged woman seem a lot more intelligent than any of the others (except maybe nicky). that might just be age (and the fact i havent watched it that much) though.

titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 4 June 2007 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

Charley will be out on friday to massive boos, mark my words.

chap, Monday, 4 June 2007 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone mentioned head-tilt theory yet? Looks like the last three will be Lesley, Laura and Shabnam.

Madchen, Monday, 4 June 2007 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

(And Amanda's out this Friday.)

Madchen, Monday, 4 June 2007 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

Are the twins being treated as a single entity re: nominations etc?

Venga, Monday, 4 June 2007 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

Hello.

I like Shabnam.

Maybe it's because I like the dark-haired girl more, but hey.

When's nominations?

xpost no.

Mark G, Monday, 4 June 2007 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone mentioned head-tilt theory yet? Looks like the last three will be Lesley, Laura and Shabnam.

-- Madchen, Monday, 4 June 2007 13:28 (2 hours ago)

STRAIGHT HEAD WATCH SEZ:

Laura, Lesley, Sam and Shabnam are very straight indeed. Carole is at a quite od Chad angle, but strangely straight. Tracey and Emily are next, then Chanelle and Charley.

So, Amanda or Nicky to go first.

-- aldo, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 22:36 (4 days ago)

aldo, Monday, 4 June 2007 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

I have no idea what an "od Chad angle" is.

aldo, Monday, 4 June 2007 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry Al! (I have no idea what an "od Chad angle" is either.)

Madchen, Monday, 4 June 2007 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rgf2jsf02mky3.jpg

onimo, Monday, 4 June 2007 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

fu image shack!

http://i19.tinypic.com/4xwaijt.jpg

onimo, Monday, 4 June 2007 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, I thought of that too.

aldo, Monday, 4 June 2007 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

Tonight's was great - it's pretty obvious the producers were banking on the battle lines being drawn around each housemate's relationship to Ziggy and he might have actually circumnavigated that by picking a favourite straight away.

I'm sure I'll start to hate him later down the line, but right now Ziggy is really quite good at doing charming. He had every single one of them bar Nicky eating out of his hands. It'll be interesting to see how he copes once they start putting more blokes in there.

Also Lesley is a bit mental isn't she? Evert time Charley says anything you can see all this barely concealed rage building up behind that restraint. And she seems sort of confused that Carole can relate to the younger girls. Still, "I'm just snipping the mattress" wtf?

Matt DC, Monday, 4 June 2007 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

Chanelle's just gone batshit at Emily over not getting to use hair straighteners first on the live feed.

V, Monday, 4 June 2007 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

I thought it was "sniffing the mattress", not snipping.

V, Monday, 4 June 2007 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

well they all fancy him dont they? thats why they were all eating out his hands.

i thought he seemed a bit nervous with the first twin but he seemed to get into his element later on.

that blonde girl who he said 'youve got the best arse in the house' to seems one of the more interesting housemates.

titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 4 June 2007 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck me, tonight is comedy gold already.

"When I get genital herpes, you'll be soory, you'll have to give me loads of toilet paper then."
"I can't even cry, I sound like a bear."
"The difference between the two of you and me is that I can afford to shop in Harvey Nicholls."
"Having a silver car is a sign that you have given up in life.
My dad's got a silver car!
Tell him I love him dearly, but, yes..."

aldo, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

"sorry"

aldo, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

haha

jed_, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

"I'll need lots of toilet roll if I get genital herpes!"

"I can't even shout because my voice sounds like a bear!"

- chanelle

czn, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

oh, apologies, aldo, x-post

czn, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

"if i leave now will i still get deals?"

jed_, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

Damn you, xpost!

Haha Shabnam - "if I walk, will I still get deals?"

Chris in Belfast, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

"Five days is a lot ACTUALLY. Anyway, if I walked now would I still get a deal, do you think?"

"Will you nominate me?
He ain't gonna nominate you now, no way.
Yeah he will, that pissed him off big time."

This is the best BB in years.

hah treble xpost

aldo, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

Christ these girls fancy themselves something shocking.

Chris in Belfast, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

"I can't help it if I've got a natural curl to my hair." <cries>

aldo, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

That definitely got a laugh.

Chris in Belfast, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

Had to get that one in first.

"I am considerate, I cooked once.
Yeah well I cooked twice.
That doesn't mean I'm less considerate than you."

Charley not bothered about being least intelligent or considerate - "but he thought I was the second most attractive".

"It's been an intellectual day, I don't want to get emotionally damaged."

"I am not the seventh most attractive, you move down one."

aldo, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

"...yes, that's what it will be like.
...
Don't judge me!
I'm not... yes, I am judging you.
...
I'm not like that!
...right..."

aldo, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

"This is what I call... girly bollocks"

Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

I like Ziggy, mischievous chap that he is.

Chris in Belfast, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

It was actually very funny watcing Ziggy slap Emily down right at the end.

This has gone from nought to No Naked Jacuzzi in just five days. Corking. Now they need to find some way of locking Chanelle in a room where she can observe the others flirting with Ziggy all day.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, we forgot:

"They think they could be stars, I wouldn't even employ them in my corner shop".

Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but five days is a lot ACTUALLY.

Anyway, Ziggy and Emily punished because she tricked him into confessing he'd nominated her (as if the Endemol employees all backing her to go ALL AFTERNOON weren't a giveaway) and asked to pick a housemate to receive a punishment on their behalf. They picked Shahbaz Winehouse without a moment's thought.

George Galloway is no Russell Brand, or even a Chris Moyles. "Should we let Laura eat all the pies because she's already really fat?"

aldo, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

Haha Pete Burns just called Jodie Marsh "thick as pigshit" on BBBM. When GG asked for clarification "FFS George, you were in the house with her as well."

I just remembered:

"I'M 4TH MOST ATTRACTIVE!!!"
"You know, my mother's watching this wondering why every time there's a hint of an argument it ends up with us screaming so no-one can understand us."

aldo, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

George Galloway is no Russell Brand, or even a Chris Moyles. "Should we let Laura eat all the pies because she's already really fat?"

Did he say that? What a fucking cock.

Laura still ftw as far as I'm concerned, although she is being increasingly sidelined as the programme becomes more man-centered.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 07:48 (nineteen years ago)

Laura fits all the criteria for the win, for sure.

Not too attractive so as to not 'challenge' the preeners

Working class as.

Street smarts.

Friendly/kind.

Those are enough.

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 07:54 (nineteen years ago)

Galloway being vain, shallow and evil shockah.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 07:56 (nineteen years ago)

Laura was being greedy and selfish.

DavidM, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 08:05 (nineteen years ago)

Haha Pete Burns just called Jodie Marsh "thick as pigshit"

Roll over Oscar Wilde and give Noel Coward the news.

Big argument between Ziggy and Emily late last night. A continuation of the arg following Chanelle sharing a bed with him. In repeat, over and over and over.
It was funny watching Ziggy (Christ, do we have to keep calling him that?) getting more and more het up and nasty, then remembering to check himself and reverting back to the smooth guy act, "but I think you're a lovely girl and everything, but... *rants*".
In an unguarded moment he said "when guys do come in here you'll all be slags then", which he soon apologised for, remembering what a nice guy he really is, yeah? *wink*.

DavidM, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 08:06 (nineteen years ago)

Shab and Charley were stick ons for nominations until the straighteners fight. Ziggy has become Stuart to Chanelle's Michelle.

onimo, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 09:00 (nineteen years ago)

Emily and Shabnam are up.

DavidM, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 09:14 (nineteen years ago)

.. for eviction,that is.

DavidM, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 09:15 (nineteen years ago)

Interesting little row between Charley and Lesley there. Ziggy should immediately feel like an idiot for nominating Emily instead of Charley.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

ah well, that'll be Shabnam to go then.

I felt strangely attracted to her, but hey.

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 09:20 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, he's only done so because she argued with Chanelle. The bedroom argument seemed to me like nothing more than him finding an excuse to have a go at her and impress Chanelle.

xp

onimo, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 09:21 (nineteen years ago)

ah well, that'll be Shabnam to go then.

I felt strangely attracted to her, but hey.

Don't worry, she'll still get DEALS!

onimo, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

Laura was being a right arse to Nicky yesterday over the whole food thng though. Bloke We Haven't Seen Yet FTW right now.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 09:49 (nineteen years ago)

nb: i'm not watching it. i'm merely observing.

LOL times lots!

I saw Ziggy go in this weekend but not sure who these others are. Need pix people!

kv_nol, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 10:17 (nineteen years ago)

not sure who these others are. Need pix people!

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s236/mezxspectrum/emily1-bb8.jpg

L to R: Emily's bottom, some other people.

DavidM, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 10:51 (nineteen years ago)

They're already getting nekkid?! Also, nice bottom.

kv_nol, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

I felt strangely attracted to her, but hey.

glad I'm not the only one. I don't know what it is...she isn't pretty.

Ronan, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

emily shouldnt go. id like her to say more stupid things and argue more with chanelle (she was prob nominated cos channelle doesnt like her). shabnam shouldnt go either cos i want to see her talk more complete self obsessed crap.

titchyschneiderMk2, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

last night was one for the ages! chanelle's stunted reasoning and horribly ineffectual bullying, the evilness of the heirarchy game (not to mention the evilness of "who will you punish on your behalf" a la kubrick's paths of glory, with ziggy and emily blithely going along with its injustice in order to get back at shabnam) ... the multi-girl grope-fest of ziggy... this show is insane and everyone in it is infuriating

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

thank fuck i'm not watching it :)

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

"I hate emily,she thinks she's so beautiful and intelligent........ ................ ...................... .. well, she aint all that!"

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

I should try to actually, it's the only way I'll get to know these people (and their bottoms). GF, it's so we can keep up. Not so we'll enjoy it!

kv_nol, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

Ziggy is being very smart keeping Charley in, as he may be up for nomination next week. Keep in the bird everyone wants to vote out (and I am sure he has worked it out).

Is this a shoo-in for Shabnam, or will evil Emily get a few votes. My flatmate hates her.

Pete, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

Paddy Power eviction odds:

Chabnam 1-3
Emily 2-1

Tighter than I thought it would be.

onimo, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

last night was one for the ages!
I'm confused by Tracer's post. We haven't seen the Ziggy nominate or the Ziggy/Emily rule break yet, right?

Jeff W, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

who is laura!? i have been watching but people are all ftw and i don't even know who they mean.

it is better this year than most. i like shabnam (sp).

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

laura is the welsh/likeable/normal one. even i know this! everyone wants her to win, which is a bit dull.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

"any other" is odds on favourite to win at 5-6, with Laura a distant 5-1.

onimo, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff W i'm talking about the big brother show that was on last night, followed at around midnight by george galloway talking about it with a studio audience and pete burns (who is very correct about the televisual pitfalls of taking away people's makeup)

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

oh wot not emily vs shabnam, they're value :(

i guess emily to stay.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/1043694

1st Eviction
Who do you want evicted on Friday?


Emily 42%
Shabnam 58%

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

laura, yesterday: http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/rushhour/images/124/katie.jpg

CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Hard choice, they're both such pricks. Emily is more proactive, so Shabnam to go, I guess.

chap, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

emily has a nice bottom, i think that's been established beyond doubt.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not going to say I hope it's me," Emily sighed miserably, rubbing her temples. "I really don't. Week one, you know, it's not ideal. I feel I have so much more to give."

But her eviction rival Shabnam actually seemed rather chipper about being nominated: "This would be the right way to go, because it's procedure. My life at home is very active... I wouldn't mind going. I'd rather go and have a blast, than have a rubbish time."

Looking a bit pensive, Shabnam was just about to reveal more about how she was feeling, when she was rudely interupted.

Butting in, Charley told her: "You are a bit mental, you know...you do funny things."

"And you'll irritate people if you're not pulling your weight," Carole yelled from the lounge.

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

The funny thing is, Ziggy is the biggest bitch in there.

Laura endlessly twitters on about nothing and sits in bed all day feeding her face and wiping snot over the bedspread. I just don't think she's that great a housemate.

Emily is attractive, female, middle class and thinks far too much of herself. She doesn't stand a chance on this show.

Shabnam is a looney tune and not much else. I think she'll stay on Friday.

DavidM, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

(The funny thing is, Ziggy is the biggest bitch in there
Apart from Charley of course, but I think that's a given.)

DavidM, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

shabnam is incredible

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

RJG, did you watch this?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UT0aSUD_Xuk

jed_, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

haha, yeah, I saw that

who says "everybody knows me"? charley, I suppose. nice try, on emily's part. especially w/ inventing skinny jeans which would be amazing if it were a joke but it is not. typical ignorant/stupid/rude reaction, on charley's part, when criticised for namedropping--"I don't understand her what's she on about?" to someone else in the group. problems

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

grimly fiendish, you should stop "not watching" big brother

keep wondering whether HI DERE is "watching", this year, but I guess not

just searched the thread and see he has been watching posh spice, at least

also, just watched yesterday's BBLB and dermot is on board w/ cozen's ziggy-like-gordon-ramsay tip

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

was that laura who said "i don't wear skinny jeans"? i lolled, i'm sorry.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

They've taken Shabnam's makeup off her

"I just think I'm naturally very pretty now"

V, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

I was out of the house for the first four days this was on, and so far the only bit I've seen was a girl gormlessly namedropping and another girl gormlessly going 'I don't like namedropping, do you?', which might have been okay had she not said it as if to imply that she knew lots of famous people but, like, didn't like to talk about it because she's so much better than everyone else. This may be the first year that I don't get embroiled in watching it, for they truly all sound horrendous.

emil.y, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

yeh, laura doesn't wear skinny jeans and doesn't think she's gorgeous and looks like peter kaye looks like peter kaye looks like vicky pollard looks like peter kaye (her most annoying character trait, thus far)

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

it was emily, emil.y, that said she didn't like namedropping but I don't think it was really a one-upper in terms of "I know famous people but wouldn't go on about it" way since she added "when you know people...like most of these people are just names to you". it was a good snipe. shame about her inventing skinny jeans

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

i lol'd at charley's "who cares, they're all tossers anyway" follwed by a lifted hand and "don't play that" to big brother.

jed_, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

shame about her inventing skinny jeans

And single-handedly discovering indie, obviously.

chap, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

THERE'S A NEW MATERIAL TAKING OVER THE COUNTRY, AND IT'S CALLED DENIM

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

it was emily, emil.y, that said she didn't like namedropping but I don't think it was really a one-upper in terms of "I know famous people but wouldn't go on about it" way since she added "when you know people...like most of these people are just names to you". it was a good snipe. shame about her inventing skinny jeans

I don't know, the slack-jawed dribble-featured way in which it was said makes me think it was not a clever zing, and the idea that 'these people are just names to you' definitely implies 'whereas they're not to me, because I'm so wonderful'.

Why can't they get people on who don't know 'celebrities' at all? I mean, the guy was in Northern Line according to people upthread, which makes him more famous than that disgraced beauty pageant winner on CBB, and although all previous years have had awful wannabe types on it, as time progresses we're just getting to ridiculous levels.

emil.y, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

as much as I dislike emily and, having just seen the straightenergate footage (as well as her attitude during the most-least task), think she is clumsy in her superiority, I really don't think she was implying she knew famous people more properly

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I think Emily was just being inadequately articulate about namedropping being unimpressive, even if you're entitled to do it.

I like Chanelle at the moment. Even though she's about as deep as a puddle, she is more honest and more endearingly mad than all the peope who go on about being honest and ooh I'm mad me. I do somehow feel for her about the toilet paper and the hair straighteners, if only because she does seem so genuinely distressed.

Nobody else has been convincingly upset about anything yet - all just for effect.

Archel, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

i think she's awful. i'd take charley over her.

jed_, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

chanelle or emily?

I think chanelle is okay and has managed a few funny bits. you know she is playing up the funny side of being upset (she sounds like a bear) even though I think she is actually upset, some of the time. a bit nikkiesque. I think I probably sympathise w/ chanelle almost the most while not forgetting her WAG and associated "ambitions" and that side of her "personality". plus dull/stupid things she's come out w/

she was right about the straighteners

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

consciously nikkiesque, I meant. nikki's bits were v v self-conscious, too, of course

think chanelle is def more fun and more capable of being fun than emily and charley and the twins and so on

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Chanelle seems to have a tiny bit of a sense of humour about things, at least. Also, for some reason I find it sexy when northern girls say 'fock'.

chap, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

Shabnam looks permanently bewildered. I will miss the valuable lulz she brings to the show.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

fock me...op the bom

shabnam, when asking if she would still get deals (haha, and then apologising immediately, if it sounded "horrible" (duh)), said she was "entertainment", in the house. she is less entertaining than almost anyone. her only competition, for bottom place, are (or is) the twins but, according to chanelle, one of them said "I felt a bit awkward when I had to snog ziggy at the end of the date but just got on with it" (or something) and got tracy to play along which is a funny joke

also, shabnam, when the most-least task results were being revealed, twice said "which one is that?", to the group, when one of the twins was mentioned, when she was sitting next to one and one place away from the other. awful

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

although less awful than charlie going "her, her, you know... HER.. uh.. shabbalicious over there"

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

I like Nicky. She handled the most-least task very well I thought, keeping her mouth shut and accepting ridiculously low placings to avoid confrontation/appearing arrogant, which was the trap almost everyone else fell straight into. I'm going off Laura, especially after she marched straight to the number one spot of 'most considerate' despite clearly having annoyed people by scoffing more than her fair share of the food.

Shabnam is awful, and not in a fun-to-watch way. I dislike her voice/clothes/idiocy/self-importance/dullness/cluelessness.

I am very slightly warming to Lesley. The sequence where Laura asked about the WI for a bit, then lost interest very abruptly and walked off, and Lesley said to herself "that's nice, interested, but up to a point", was very funny.

Emily is just a more attractive version of last year's Grace. I hope she ends up as hated.

Cathy, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

fock me...op the bom

this is very un-RJG.

i thought emily was right about the straighteners but then posh girls with nice arses are very much the chink in my armour.

also, shabnam, when the most-least task results were being revealed, twice said "which one is that?", to the group, when one of the twins was mentioned, when she was sitting next to one and one place away from the other. awful

haha

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

can someone do a quick précis for me (and others?) of the cw for eviction logic? as a foreigner i am in the weeds about that - the people who i always think should stay end up getting kicked out first - i can't follow it

xpost it is SO rjg though!

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

cw = conventional wisdom

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

and less-conventional too, but begin at the beginning

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

although less awful than charlie going "her, her, you know... HER.. uh.. shabbalicious over there"

I don't think that is worse, though, because charley was, at least, trying to remember her name, at that moment, even if it is v ignorant/stupid not to have learned already. shabnam was talking about the twins, away from them, in front of everyone in a "obviously I need make no effort to distinguish these v similar-looking people that I live with from one another" way. plus, what were people going answer her w/?? "sam is that one"?

also, shabnam did say "shabalicious" was her...nickname, before, and charley smiled at her, after she managed to get it out

obviously charley is awful, too. when she spilled the sugar and carole told her to clean it up and she said "eh, excuse me, eh, ...thingy...carole". awful in a different way

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

crossposts : )

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

I like Chanelle at the moment. Even though she's about as deep as a puddle, she is more honest and more endearingly mad than all the peope who go on about being honest and ooh I'm mad me. I do somehow feel for her about the toilet paper and the hair straighteners, if only because she does seem so genuinely distressed.

-- Archel, Wednesday, June 6, 2007 6:30 PM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Yes. Me too. I even liked the WAG thing. The rest of the housemates spent the first couple of days desperately trying to say something profound and deep (and almost universally failing). Chanelle seems to be one of the only ones among them who is aware of her own shallowness, and willing to admit that she'd rather sit on her arse, shag David Beckham and write the odd bit for a magazine than work (I had to agree with her on this).

I really hope Shabhnam stays, although she's bound to go. I am finding her amusing. Emily just seems nasty.

I remember Northern Line. Very attractive band, they were. I predict the next step will be to get the REST of the band in, split the house male/female and let viewers write in with suggested weekly tasks. Okay, it probably won't, but I'm thinking of tasks just in case.

hobart paving, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Lesley/Nicky to win??

hobart paving, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

<i>i thought emily was right about the straighteners but then posh girls with nice arses are very much the chink in my armour.</i>

emily has more hair which means she could use more of the gas, if she was doing it all

emily has more hair which means she could do it in a number of different ways that chanelle couldn't. yeh, chanelle chose to have short hair but I don't think anyone would argue that that is her own fault for not being prepared/versatile enough

emily has more hair which means it's less likely to get a big fold in that would ruin her...style

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.ukmix.org/images/reviews/2000/s_northernline.gif

Here are our boys. There's Ziggy at the front, praying, bless him. I think the boy to his left/our right should join him. Especially as he's now probably about 26 and finding him attractive won't make me feel quite so seedy.

hobart paving, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

but those things turned out not to be the point

xpost

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

also, yeah i miss things. this show's harder to follow than the wire.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

chanelle should have just grown a pair. if emily was possibly a bit selfish (but she doesn't owe it to chanelle to think of her hair before her own) the way chanelle responded was childish.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

Chanelle seems to be one of the only ones among them who is aware of her own shallowness, and willing to admit that she'd rather sit on her arse, shag David Beckham and write the odd bit for a magazine than work (I had to agree with her on this).

truly admirable woman, not.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

rjg is in love with chanelle

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

chanelle should have just grown a pair. if emily was possibly a bit selfish (but she doesn't owe it to chanelle to think of her hair before her own) the way chanelle responded was childish.

it was emily who was accusing chanelle of selfishness because she "jumped" her in the "queue". chanelle doesn't owe it to emily to think of her "place" in the "queue" before her own

you think that chanelle was complaining about selfishness but I think it was emily. especially since chanelle had already actually used the straighteners. she was complaining about emily complaining

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

Emily describes herself as right-wing, apparently, and her attitude to the hair straighteners just reflects her politics. Entirely oblivious to the concept of 'for each according to his need', she ignored the fact the Chanelle has far shorter and kinkier hair than her, and insists that they should all be treated 'equally' despite the clear lack of a level playing field, thus perpetuating the inequality and causing justified resentment in Chanelle. Any decent human being would have recognised that a) Chanelle needs the straighteners the most and b) she uses them for the least time, and should therefore get priority.

Chanelle's response may have appeared over the top if you think the argument was just about hair straighteners, but it wasn't, it was about Emily being a spoiled, selfish, deluded brat.

Cathy, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

Why on earth did they need to straighten their hair at half 11 at night anyway?

V, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

Chanelle seems to be one of the only ones among them who is aware of her own shallowness, and willing to admit that she'd rather sit on her arse, shag David Beckham and write the odd bit for a magazine than work (I had to agree with her on this).

truly admirable woman, not.

-- That one guy that quit, Wednesday, June 6, 2007 7:29 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Aw c'mon - wouldn't we all rather do this??

hobart paving, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

Love the twins, especially Amanda. No, Sam. Amanda! I love love love the way they say cookie, "Can I have a kooky?". I can't believe they actually exist though! I'm just glad they do < /Humbert Humbert>

People actually like Chanelle?? God almighty. And she was wrong about the straighteners - how can she be right? "I MUST and WILL have use of them first and before everyone else every time because of my special hair boohoo". Her and her dippy bf are just whingebags.

Also love: Lesley, and Nicky though she's a bit meh. I'm fond of Emily, she's an idiot but does come out with a good zing every now and again, and kills in a bikini. Oh, and she likes indie lol, not only that - the wrong kind of indie lolololol.

I thought Carole would end up a bit of a damp squib, and, so far, she has done.

Charley is incredible, an utter monster. I hope she stays for a while yet though.

DavidM, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

you are usually wrong about big brother

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

doubt I would like chanelle much, if it weren't for the others

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

k i s s i n g

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

whatever

loser

sexual

you know it

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

Endemol have played this pretty well this year. Getting them to all line up in order of attractiveness/intelligence was a great way of exposing and exploiting their weaknesses, insecurities and setting up squabbles and rivalries. Fucking horrible thing to do to people, but it gets those destructive group dynamics going nicely, and the viewers watching.

They've played Ziggy tremendously. While he thinks they're playing to what he perceives as his strongest asset (his looks - and, to be fair, he's probably right), they're actually playing to his greatest weakness, his vanity. I reckon it'll play out well (for the viewing figures, at least, albeit to the psychological detriment of all concerned) if they limit the number of men that go in there, for the next few weeks at least - let this one play itself out, and then chuck in a token male (who, bb being what it is, might stand a fairly good chance of winning).

Would this have been quite so interesting in reverse? A house full of males, chuck in one woman? I don't think it would.

hobart paving, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

just watched a bit of the live feed of the emily-ziggy argument and he said some really bad things - "girls are bitches", "guys aren't like that, they just deal with it".

Cathy, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

they just showed highlights. he was a dick, she came out of it relatively well.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

"All my life I've put myself on the line for people."

Posh schools must be rougher than I thought.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

That one guy that quit is in love w/ emily

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

missed some of it today and yesterday but im not sure what this moment where emily is meant to have been a bitch to chanelle is. or if it was even that bad - its pretty obv emily fancies ziggy and its making her and chanelle come to blows and cause some friction there. soon its gonna be ziggy and chanelle against the house!

i think i fancy emily.

titchyschneiderMk2, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

Get one (1) standards.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

love is a strong word, RJG.

noodle, posh schools are notoriously tough wtf? you don't get to run 2/5 of the globe by being soft innit.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

Not girls' schools tho shirley?

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

i dunno what emily said but ziggy is coming off a bit holier than thou...

titchyschneiderMk2, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

Emily from Bristol who is a Tory voter and considers herself right-wing

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

chanelle wants to be posh spice

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

okay, maybe dont fancy her so much now.

she wont get voted out though - i think the public will keep her in cos she would make for more interesting viewing, given the chanelle-emily-ziggy dynamic.

titchyschneiderMk2, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.sterlingtimes.org/saint_trinians.jpg

Emily second from left.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

Blimey, Ziggy boy sure loves a bit of drama, doesn't he? Whoever said upthread that lesly was growing on them is OTM - it's refreshing to have a housemate who realises what an absolute farce the whole thing is, though god knows why she let herself in for it.

Emily is undeniably very attractive, physically at least. I don't wank over half-baked Tory sympathies or anything.

chap, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

"You can see how World Wars start" was gold.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

not sure what this moment where emily is meant to have been a bitch to chanelle is

she said something, in front of a lot of the other housemates, like she would never sleep in bed w/ a guy on BB on TV (like chanelle did) because she isn't a slut (like chanelle is)

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

haha, defining yourself as a fan of posh spice Vs. defining yourself as a fan of the right-wing

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

ziggy really overdid the self righteousness....

titchyschneiderMk2, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

haha, defining yourself as a fan of posh spice Vs. defining yourself as a fan of the right-wing

-- RJG, Wednesday, June 6, 2007 10:07 PM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

tomato tomato

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

i like lesley and carole best and the girl with the pink hair... although for eye candy reasons, i appreciate the right wing tory and a few others in there.

titchyschneiderMk2, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

tomato 1: you like expensive jeans

tomato 2: you like the poll tax

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

Emily has really fucked up - way not to play the 'realising you've just been nominated' thing. It makes Shabbalicious's 'oh I just want to get evicted now so I can become rich and famous straight away' schtick seem positively ingenious. Still, nice bottom though.

Next male housemate in is a gayer apparently. This is either a clanger on C4's part (ie they should put a better looking bloke in to rival Ziggy's alpha male thing) or a stroke of genius (it allows him to be Man About The House for even longer before inevitably getting knocked off his perch by a dude with Tourettes or something).

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

And although I'm sure she doesn't realise this right now, but Lesley might actually be the most popular housemate inside the house. There's certainly very little in the way of actual chemistry in there right now (Ziggy/Chanelle notwithstanding).

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

ts - chanelle vs emily.

i think i vote emily. chanelle is too pleased that she got her man and the attack about straighteners yesterday probably wouldnt have happened without the assurance that she has ziggy behind her.

titchyschneiderMk2, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

really doubt emily would let you put it up her bum

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

chanelle however....

titchyschneiderMk2, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

i'd rather befriend a tory than a posh spice wanabee.

jed_, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

Lesley's great entertainment, may she forever be arch and knowing.

Chris in Belfast, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

Emily didn't use the word slut, that's what Ziggy said the rest of the girls would be when more men came in. He apoligised when he suddenly remembered what a all-round nice guy he is.

Em: "don't call us sluts when we clearly aren't"
Zig: "oh yeah look at you! .. er, you're an actress"
Well saved Zig.

DavidM, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

Next male housemate in is a gayer apparently. This is either a clanger on C4's part (ie they should put a better looking bloke in to rival Ziggy's alpha male thing) or a stroke of genius (it allows him to be Man About The House for even longer before inevitably getting knocked off his perch by a dude with Tourettes or something).

-- Matt DC, Wednesday, June 6, 2007 10:19 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

I had a feeling they would do this. I'd imagine that will shift dynamics quite considerably. Putting a straight bloke in would have done the same, but more towards a sense of heterosexual male/female interactions that would have mirrored a lot of previous bbs. This could make things much more interesting. For about a week, anyway.

hobart paving, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

Although, even that could be bettered.

The next housemate should be a HORSE.

hobart paving, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

i don't like lesley.

Whoever said upthread that lesly was growing on them is OTM - it's refreshing to have a housemate who realises what an absolute farce the whole thing is, though god knows why she let herself in for it.

she's done it in a kitten stylee to subvert big brother by saying snide and 'knowing' things to the show's middle-class audience about how ghastly the other housemates and reality tv in general are.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

what word did emily use?

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

"the other girls and me have been discussing how Chanelle has a game plan around you"

V, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

oh well, if that's what it was

apparently, when ziggy and emily had to choose someone to receive their punishment, they chose shabnam but not before emily had suggested...the twins?

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

rjg wants to argue with emily about her tory politics until it reaches the inevitable boiling point and they start kissing. he'll have a go at sticking it in her bum, and with the political tension the way it would be, he'd probably have his way.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

grimly fiendish, you should stop "not watching" big brother

b-b-but why, when i have this thread to enjoy, which i genuinely imagine is way more enjoyable than the real thing (esp matt dc's 11.19pm one which made me LOL twice in the space of 10 seconds? (although your possibly increasingly tipsy (apologies if wrong there) analysis is fucking joyous too)).

PARENTHESES REPRAZENT.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

that or the high way

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

I have never been more sober

RJG, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

oh! keep it up, then.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

Emily isn't so pretty, the thick ugly dark roots and no-chin thing aren't a good look. More importantly, she never smiles! Hasn't let out a non-sneering smile once and she probably won't until she's wearing stilettos and stepping on a little mouse's head. Oh and her repulsive sly nature and habit of putting everyone else down, that's a bit of a no-no too. Cathy's point above nails it, she's right-wing on every level, a heartless hard-done-by brat.

Chanelle, alternatively, is adorable. Her 'best bits' clip on BBLB were delightful. She's well-meaning, a bit ditzy, accidentally hilarious and faaaar prettier than Emily. It's a shame she babbled on about Posh Spice in her intro video but at least it shows a lack of ego. I like her a lot.

I thought I'd hate Ziggy but he's fine, a decent guy all round.

Like the twins a lot, lovely how they were sat watching like wide-eyed children while Ziggy and Emily argued over their heads.

I'm rooting for Emily to go on Friday. It seems the producers are too - showing Emily in a real bad light in tonight's episode, while Shab seems a bit clueless and bullied by being chosen to be punished. Hopefully Emily will have fucked her chances by choosing her over Charley. (I'll admit Emily does make great Grace-like TV - no doubt she'll up her Iago-ness as time goes by - but it'd be sooo great to see her respond to being the first evictee.)

NI, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

I really wish RSS feeds would come back...this thread would be so much easier to follow if I could subscribe with Google Reader!

I've noticed that Ziggy has been very patronizing (in this thread, patronising?) towards the women...constant mentions of bitching, "girly bollocks," and other little things that creep up all the time. Not that the women have been doing their part to advance the course of feminism though. But still, the undertone of a lot of the things he says bothers me.

I love Charley. She's absolutely the most entertaining, and I adore her. Not as a person, mind you, but she makes great television, and I'd vote to keep her over almost anyone else. My other favorites are Emily and Nicky, for much different reasons.

I love UK BB so much more than the US version! I only wish I could watch it streaming somewhere instead of downloading it every night.

musically, Thursday, 7 June 2007 05:03 (nineteen years ago)

And the twins are incredibly unremarkable. I don't think I have heard them say more than 20 words combined at this point. Unfortunately I think they'll stick around for a while as they aren't threatening at all and haven't been aggressive or gossipy and it seems that everyone in the house is treating them like little kids (esp. when Ziggy was saying "oh, they wouldn't understand the punishment, etc") so they'll outlast the bigger personalities.

musically, Thursday, 7 June 2007 05:08 (nineteen years ago)

oh, emily

RJG, Thursday, 7 June 2007 10:38 (nineteen years ago)

emily been given the elbow for racist remark

secondhandnews, Thursday, 7 June 2007 10:39 (nineteen years ago)

I wouldn't even call it a "remark"

RJG, Thursday, 7 June 2007 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

Emily: (referring to Charley dancing/pushing her hips forward) You pushing it out you nigger.
Nicky: (shocked laughter) Em, I can't believe you said that.
Charley: You are in trouble.
Emily: Don't make a big thing out of it then. I was joking.
Charley: I know you were... but that's some serious shit, sorry.
Emily: Why?
Charley: Oh my god. I'm not even saying it.
Nicky: Just don't talk about it anymore.
Emily: I was joking
Charley: Do you know how many viewers would watch that?
Nicky: Okay, don't make a big deal out of it.
Charley: Fancy you saying that. I can't believe you said that.
Emily: Somebody has already used that word in this house.
Charley: No way. (Pause) Yeah, me. I'm a nigger.

Nicky laughs.

Charley: I am one. Fancy you saying it. I know maybe you see it in a rap song. Maybe you and your friends sit there saying it.
Emily: I'm friendly with plenty of black people.
Nicky: And you call them niggers?
Emily: Yeah and they call me niggers. They call me wiggers as well.
Nicky: I'm quite shocked.
Charley: I'm fucking in shock.
Emily: It's not a big deal though is it?
Charley: Not for us it ain't. Fuck me.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 7 June 2007 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

what a complete moron.

as for whoever said Chanelle was attractive, I think she's truly awful. this is the girl who said she wants to be "a WAG" and defended this as if it was some kind of sensible or worthy ambition. And her accent, ugh.

What I'm most surprised about is how different the twins are since the awful entrance, they seem kind of normal and are actually quite likeable, especially their weird accents.

I don't like Charley much but I think she handled Emily's "nigger" outburst very well.

Ronan, Thursday, 7 June 2007 10:50 (nineteen years ago)

THERE'S A NEW PREJUDICE TAKING OVER THE COUNTRY AND IT'S CALLED RACISM

acrobat, Thursday, 7 June 2007 10:55 (nineteen years ago)

jees what a silly girl. good job channel 4 for kicking her out.

Ste, Thursday, 7 June 2007 10:57 (nineteen years ago)

will she still get deals?

RJG, Thursday, 7 June 2007 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

If she'd not said "YOU nigger", or had pronounced it "niggA", would she still have been chucked out?

Mark C, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:05 (nineteen years ago)

probably

blueski, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:06 (nineteen years ago)

In light of what they've just been through with Shilpa and Jade i don't think channel4 are taking any chances are they, it wouldn't have mattered how she'd said it to be honest.

Ste, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:07 (nineteen years ago)

she presumably didn't watch CBB, the news or read the papers at all six months ago. kids!

blueski, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:07 (nineteen years ago)

I see "glossing over it" has become the new "not"

Mark G, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:09 (nineteen years ago)

Emily: I'm friendly with plenty of black people.
Nicky: And you call them niggers?
Emily: Yeah and they call me niggers. They call me wiggers as well.
Nicky: I'm quite shocked.
Charley: I'm fucking in shock.
Emily: It's not a big deal though is it?

That's Cameron's Britain for you

Tom D., Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:09 (nineteen years ago)

Meet the New Tories, same as the Old Tories!

Tom D., Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:10 (nineteen years ago)

I will miss her bottom

Ste, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

"OK emily, let's look at your highlights.."

(img bumpic close img)

Mark G, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:12 (nineteen years ago)

will she still get deals?

She's the Racist Pin-Up of the Year!

Tom D., Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

jees what a silly girl. good job channel 4 for kicking her out.

-- Ste, Thursday, 7 June 2007 10:57 (6 minutes ago) Link


xpost.
Well they would do, wouldn't they? After the whole Shilpa and the Arse Triplets thing in Celeb BB, I suspect that C4 would be hyper-sensitive about this.

And to be honest, I'd be fucking appalled if a white person who hardly knew me called me a nigger, even in jest. And the ones who know me well would know better.

Stone Monkey, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:16 (nineteen years ago)

don't look at teh digital spy forum discussion. your brain might break.

acrobat, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:16 (nineteen years ago)

Best DigitalSpy forum topic so far "Why is it OK to call someone "honkey" but not "nigger"?"

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:18 (nineteen years ago)

Wait. What? Bloody hell, well done Charley for playing it so cool and letting her hang herself!

I will miss her bottom

-- Ste, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:11 (Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:11)

OTM ;_;

kv_nol, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:19 (nineteen years ago)

> I suspect that C4 would be hyper-sensitive about this.

there was a big fuss about the girl on shipwrecked spouting off about being in favour of slavery as well but, from what i saw of it, she never mentioned it again during the 3 months it was on. was it all editied out?

i hope you are all enjoying the final series of big brother 8)

koogs, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

Angela Jain, head of the Big Brother commissioning team, said: "The word nigger is clearly racially offensive and there was no justification for its use."

Jain then fired herself for using the word.

blueski, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

i hope you are all enjoying the final series of big brother 8)

Fingers crossed, eh?

Tom D., Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently the shipwrecked Lucy girl 'was on a journey' and her perception of the world changed over the course of the series. At least I think that's what the justification was at the time.

Zoe Espera, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

I will miss her bottom

I, for one, am glad to see the back of her.

DavidM, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

i hope you are all enjoying the final series of big brother 8)

(Yes, but looking forward to the final series of Big Brother 9)

onimo, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus, what a stupid bint. And yeah, fair play C4 and Charley for how she dealt with it.

And yeah, lovely bum. :-(

Chris in Belfast, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:33 (nineteen years ago)

She had her knockers etc etc

kv_nol, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:35 (nineteen years ago)

"Bum's Rush For Posh Girl Emily in Racism Row"

Tom D., Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:37 (nineteen years ago)

The race row will no doubt overshadow this story from The Sun:

A LESBIAN mum yesterday told how she had a night of lust with BB housemate Laura.

But Janine Shipston, 25, said the BB star with huge HH “wangers” was not much of a kisser and stank of KEBAB.

The two pals romped after Janine announced she was gay last Christmas. Janine — who has a daughter aged four — told her mates she’d left hubby Craig and decided to “come out”.

She claimed Laura welcomed the news by flashing her huge boobs. Janine told The Sun: “It was hard for me to come out because I live in a traditional community and being a lesbian is frowned upon.

“Laura was all over me, telling me how brave she thought I was and how much she admired me.

“She got quite emotional. She’d been drinking pints of lager, despite her claims she rarely touches alcohol. Then she lifted up her top and flashed her enormous boobs at me and winked.

“After clubbing, I invited her back to my house with a few other mates. She insisted on stopping off for a kebab over the road from the club and she scoffed it on the way home.”

Janine, a part-time nanny, of Porth, South Wales, said they stood in her kitchen — then Laura, 23, lunged at her and started snogging her.

She added: “She wasn’t much of a kisser and she tasted of kebab. It wasn’t very sexy. Then she suggested we went up to my bedroom.

“As we got through the door, she leapt on me, pushed me onto the bed and tore at my clothes. We both stripped off and had sex all night.

“It was enjoyable enough at the time, but the next morning I knew it had been a mistake. We’d known each other since we were about 15.

“We did have a chat later on and we agreed we’d both made a mistake and vowed not to let it happen again. But I know she enjoyed it and would love to have girl-on-girl action again because she was so mad for it at the time.”

She said Laura — who had a year-long fling with her male boss at a butcher’s shop — “definitely has lesbian feelings, but she’s not strong enough emotionally to come out.”

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

the BB star with huge HH “wangers”

Wangers? Wha'?

Tom D., Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, it's this DigitalSpy thread that's a work of genius.

And Wangers... Not a word I'd choose to call 'em but this is the Sun

Stone Monkey, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

"they call me n*ggers" ?

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

KEBAB

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

no one has made a pré for me of eviction logic yet - i need this!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

That DS thread omg.

God they're so uppity on BB.
An African guy came in the shop I work at the other week and said 'Yoooo white girls'
Should I be offended?

onimo, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:54 (nineteen years ago)

preécis

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

g*ddamn it

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

** There will now be a ceremonial burning of Blessed Ethel records in Trafalgar Square on Saturday, commencing 2pm sharp. **

Nicholas Passant, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand what you don't understand about eviction logic tracer.

onimo, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

I think Laura's nickname at home is "Wangers" due to her enormous jebs (my euphemism of choice).

Chris in Belfast, Thursday, 7 June 2007 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/Juror8/tibs.jpg

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

blessed ethel? i don't get it. is someone from blessed ethel in this tv show?

pisces, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

"they call me niggers" doesnt even make sense. it sounds like something a right winger would say though.

i think they shd have kept her in there. they shd have made her be charleys (who im actually warming to now - she seems stupid, a bit weird but at least shes kinda nice) servant for a week or something. not just boot her out. thats like trying to show it never happened or something and sweep it under the carpet. they should have let her stay but made her apologise and be punished. cos in real life, if you were staying somewhere and someone was racist, or if youre at work and someone says something ignorant, that person doesnt just get booted out. seems a bit neat and like c4 are trying to appease their critics rather than actually deal with the issue in a more meaningful way. ive not seen it though and the 'i was joking' thing is just pathetic (but ive seen people defend their comments like that loads of times) but cant say nickys way of dealing with it is the best. and for the life of me i cant EVER imagine anyone thinking emily was a 'wigger'. LOL.

shes gonna be honorary guest of the month at the next bnp meeting though. or celebrated on their websites id imagine.

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

> Apparently the shipwrecked Lucy girl 'was on a journey' and her perception of the world changed over the course of the series. At least I think that's what the justification was at the time.

but we didn't see 'her journey' because it all got edited out 8)

koogs, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

or if youre at work and someone says something ignorant, that person doesnt just get booted out

Not a very apt analogy

Tom D., Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

Jade went to India to atone for her sins, where will Emily go?

Tom D., Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

"Not a very apt analogy"

fine, when i used to get sent on field trips at school or whatever, when someone said something racist, the teachers wouldnt send that person home. happy now?

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

they shd have made her be charleys (who im actually warming to now - she seems stupid, a bit weird but at least shes kinda nice) servant for a week or something.

with logic like this u should be working for Endemol!

blueski, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

onimo - all of it? treat me like a child who grew up in a strange barren land where big brother didn't exist

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

fine, when i used to get sent on field trips at school or whatever, when someone said something racist, the teachers wouldnt send that person home. happy now?

Not a very apt analogy

Tom D., Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

ah the old "we'll let you off seeing as this is a field trip" defence

blueski, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

also "they call me niggers" sounds like someone who contrary to what emily said, actually knows NO black or non white people. or maybe just someone really really fucking thick (and aware theyd just made a massive faux pas).

"Not a very apt analogy"

plz come up with one better than you pedant.

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

Why do you need an analogy?

Tom D., Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

contrary to what emily said, actually knows NO black or non white people

Well, what do you think? Ha ha.

Tom D., Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

yes it's pointless to compare BB situations with anything else.

blueski, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

Can I draw the analogy between INDIE! and WHITE POWER!

Tom D., Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

"with logic like this u should be working for Endemol!"

come on, how brilliant/perverse would that be though?!

well i dont *NEED* an analogy, i just gave one to maybe illustrate how this sort of thing might be dealt with elsewhere. but yeah its hard to analogise a purpose built reality tv house with the workplace or school dormitory (although saying that, the bb bedroom isnt that far from a school dorm).

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

Can I draw the analogy between INDIE! and WHITE POWER!

go on, i dare you

blueski, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

A school dormitory? I wouldn't know.

Tom D., Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

i think titchy's right! casual "pop" racism doesn't result in people getting fired or people being separated from those they live with, and people have to figure out how to deal with it and adjust and possibly confront in a variety of ways, and because of C4's reaction none of this will happen

it's as if the lesson everyone learned from last year's CBB was "our big problem was letting the issue play out - from now on we will shout 'BAD' and send the person home immediately" when the whole point of BB in the first place is to let people loose on each other in an enclosed environment and see what happens, both inside the house and outside, in public reaction to it, and toss people out using DEMOCRACY

if there's a legitimate psychological basis for separating bullies from the rest then fine, but this is not that - of course i'm not sure what is to be gained from yet another trip around the "why is it OK for black people to say HONKY" go-kart track but something possibly, and certainly more than we will gain with this, which i think probably just feeds the confused-by-the-word-honky people's fears and paranoias of a hyper-critical PC brigade unaware of its hypocrisy

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

casual "pop" racism

What's this?

Tom D., Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

Tracer you under-estimate just how dumb this country's media and general public are, possibly.

blueski, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

What's this?

racism based on tactlessness, naivety and ignorance rather than actual direct hatred?

blueski, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

Cuddly racism?

Tom D., Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

What a silly girl. I think she's probably not an actual racist, what with the semantics of that word being so complicated these days and her not being at all worldly wise. What she is is very thoughtless and naive. But Endemol had no choice but to kick her out, really.

many xposts

chap, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

Tom D. it's racism that isn't intentionally intimidating or bullying

for reference, see tonight's programme of Big Brother, showing on Channel 4

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

so in conclusion: it wasn't a racist insult, it was a racist term used ill-advisedly.

but watch the press chow down on the silly girl now...

CharlieNo4, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

or like

"man i like Lugo at second base but you know he beat his wife like 4 years ago right?"

"what?"

"yeah he threatened her with a knife too, he got a suspended sentence though"

"well... he IS dominican"

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

i *totally* agree with what tracer said.

although i wouldnt call this casual pop racism. casual pop racism would be something more inferred i think rather than straight up obvious signifiers of racism that everyone knows like the n or p word.

i hate the way chucking her out just simplifies the whole debate about racism. and this is diff to the shilpa thing cos that was active bullying as well as racism, this is just an off the cuff racist remark (although cant say its that surprising seeing as emily seems a bit ignorant - eg - her terrorism comment the other day which she got corrected about and then STFU). shes just a bit stupid (although i dread to think just how much real hate might be bubbling beneath the surface), like that girl from shipwrecked. one day when i finally get my menage-a-racist-trois, i will get lucy and emily together. i work with a girl who reminds me a lot of lucy and emily, maybe i will make it a menage-a-quatre.

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

why is it 'pop racism' though? can you get racial popism? is this something simon reynolds is behind?

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

the debate is not really worth having (again).

blueski, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think C4 had a choice - they tried letting the Shilpa/Jade thing play out, and look at the bad publicity and censure that got them. Maybe the Diana doc has something to do with it as well - they could probably do without yet another country-eating controversy. This way they get rid of the culprit, send out a message of zero-tolerance and let the whole thing blow over.

Chris in Belfast, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

if they'd kept her in the house but the comment had been publicised as it has been anyway, the press would've drummed up the hate campaign and her housemates would've voted her out, leading to one ugly eviction. no way would they have allowed that to happen. removing her now therefore much more sensible.

blueski, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

i don't believe that channel 4 bosses had the time to have a discussion about the various contextual uses for racist words before deciding to kick her out.

Under the circumstances I think they opted to do whatever anyone else would have done really.

Ste, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

ha, nice xp to Chris

Ste, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

i agree it's the only choice they have, but mainly because of the incredibly poor way they handled CBB last year and refused to stick up for the principles of the show

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

you could argue they should've vetted Emily better in the selection process tho. A quick US-visitors-control style form to fill out inc. "do you ever call your black friends 'my niggers'? Y/N" right under the terrorism stuff. sloppy Endemol, sloppy.

blueski, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

is emily a big hip hop fan? anyone know?

what chris and blueski makes sense but still, this seems a bit too easy... apparently the contestants didnt even know she had gone til the morning - they made the decision at 3am (this is what i saw on sky news) and the others were informed in the morning when they got up.

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

it's as if the lesson everyone learned from last year's CBB was "our big problem was letting the issue play out - from now on we will shout 'BAD' and send the person home immediately"

er, yes? as ste and chris say: what else could C4 do? hellfire, they had to BEGIN this series with apologies for racism in the last one. "letting it play out" just isn't an option.

(and anyway: is the BB house really the best place for a daft student arsehole to learn why what she said was totally fucking wrong; to go on a journey of understanding? i very much doubt it.)

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

is emily a big hip hop fan? anyone know?

she loves that Lethal Bizzle ft. Pete Doherty joint.

blueski, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

lol. really? maybe she likes roll deep's racist. they should play that when screeing her highlights.

i do wonder though, youd think bb housemates would know better than to say anything racist considering the last one.

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

she's not smart enough to have been a plant to make BB look good. you need 11/10 intelligence for that.

blueski, Thursday, 7 June 2007 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

is the BB house really the best place for a daft student arsehole to learn why what she said was totally fucking wrong; to go on a journey of understanding? i very much doubt it.)

-- grimly fiendish, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:55 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Probably a much better (or at least safer) place to do so than out in the real world. Shit like that could get her a serious kicking from some people.

Stone Monkey, Thursday, 7 June 2007 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

"i do wonder though, youd think bb housemates would know better than to say anything racist considering the last one."

That's what's so mind-boggling about it. They must have been sat down and told in no uncertain terms that it would have dire consequences. She's probably just too stupid and cossetted to know that that word causes offence. Another thing I don't understand is the constant nominations discussion - it's series 8 now FFS, they know the deal now surely!

Chris in Belfast, Thursday, 7 June 2007 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

Another thing I don't understand is the constant nominations discussion - it's series 8 now FFS, they know the deal now surely!

You get your point across and lose your make-up/electric hair straighteners for a wee while. Worth the risk if it manipulates the vote. It was an eviction offence back in ye olde Nasty Nick* days, now it's a wrist slapping and Endemol loves it when it happens as they get to crack out the Prearranged Punishment Programme which makes thing more interesting (e.g. straightenergate would never have happened but for nomination discussions).

*'Nasty' Nick looks like a fucking angel when you see what's gone on since

onimo, Thursday, 7 June 2007 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

I was thinking about Nasty Nick the other night, innocent times. I'd love a BB full of normal, non-wannabes as well but it ain't gonna happen.

Chris in Belfast, Thursday, 7 June 2007 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

remember when Nasty Nick and Darren were talking about how they were gonna party after BB was over and Nick would introduce Darren as 'his brother' or vice versa? simpler times!

blueski, Thursday, 7 June 2007 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

I'd love a BB full of normal, non-wannabes as well but it ain't gonna happen.

Any normal non-wannabe would now have to be forced to compete in Big Brother by gun point, and that's going a bit far even for Endemol.

chap, Thursday, 7 June 2007 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

Any normal non-wannabe would now have to be forced to compete in Big Brother by gun point, and that's going a bit far even for Endemol.

Fair point, I'm sure they'd get 12-15 though. Wouldn't they? Maybe not...

Chris in Belfast, Thursday, 7 June 2007 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

I've just had to explain to someone why honky and nigger are not equally 'inoffensive'. It's 2007.

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 7 June 2007 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

Has the word honky even been used since 1976? Except by dickhead racism apologists on the internet, obviously.

chap, Thursday, 7 June 2007 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

I think my friend Ben, who's black, might have once called it me as a joke.

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 7 June 2007 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

KICK HIM OUT!

chap, Thursday, 7 June 2007 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

I don't despise Emily over this for her racism, I despise her for the fact she used such a term to clumsily demonstrate her close allegiance with 'urban culture'. This is posho rich daddy's girl Cameronite talking here. I'm not a fan of genre (as you know), but she definitely belongs to a type, regrettably prevalent throughout the British public school/university system. She's the kind of person who self-defines to a certain 'sound', and doesn't value music or culture for its objective worth, but for how it can further her social advancement. Awful. I don't care how nice her arse is. Well, maybe a little. But not enough for it to make a difference.

Just got offed, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

Connoisseurs of internet debate will be happy to know that BBC Talking Point has started a feature on this:

http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?sortBy=2&threadID=6508&start=0&tstart=0&edition=1&ttl=20070607151956&#paginator

Groke, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

As has been pointed out before, this is a show performed & watched exclusively by air-heads, half-wits & morons. Who cares?

R0g3r H4rrold, Leicester

lol @ sanctimonious 'i am above this shit' tossers

Just got offed, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

She's the kind of person who self-defines to a certain 'sound', and doesn't value music or culture for its objective worth, but for how it can further her social advancement.

translation, pls

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

some bobbins.

Mark G, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

Made sense to me; she's just trying to be cool, innit.

chap, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

" social advancement."

how does aligning yourself with 'street culture' further your social advancement?

i dont know for sure yet til i see it if she was doing it in a 'i know black people!' sort of way or in the old school in sickness and in health/love thy neighbour way.

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

I presume she was thought she was using the word in an ironic hipsterish, or whatever, way.

TS: "Woss up me niggas?" in Shaun of the Dead vs "You pushing it out you nigga" on BB.

DavidM, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

the former wins because it's fictional ;)

blueski, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

if a black person says 'yo Ni____' to another black person its fine for some reason.

we need to make our minds up. is it wrong or is it accepted?

bobby gibbons, cardiff, United Kingdom

It's okay for Bobby Gibbons of Cardiff to be a disingenuous cunt but wrong for me to say Bobby Gibbons of Cardiff is a fucking wanker? We need to make our minds up.

(I should block "Have your say" from my internets)

onimo, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

If you're some cosseted posh girl, I would suspect it makes you seem less privileged and hence less of a target for eviction votes from the predominently working/lower middle class teenaged girls who make up a large fraction of BB's audience. The whole "fitting in" thing probably has some bearing on the issue too.

Oh and xpost.
Although in Shaun of the Dead, wasn't he actually saying it to other white folks...?

From the transcript, it all comes over a bit Nathan Barley to me. Which makes it even more stupid.

Stone Monkey, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

(oh and Bobby Gibbons of Cardiff was "Recommended by 26 people")

onimo, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

YES, re: Nathan Barley, I was going to say that myself, but most people here hated it so I stayed my hand.

Just got offed, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

HI DERE I AM DA VICE MAGAZINE LURKIN LIKE A ELEFANT! ALSO MOMUS

acrobat, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Probably was correct but if the coloured girl ( cannot really be bothered looking up the names of any of these indviduals ) calls one of the white people a name that is contrived to be racist, will she be evicted ? Am not holding my breath. ( Doubt BBC will post this as faintly controversial )

schussman dolomite, chelmsford, United Kingdom

Please schussman, hold your fucking breath.

onimo, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

i adored nathan barley.

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

I like the use of the word "coloured" Haven't heard that one for years...

Stone Monkey, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

Without having seen the clip, I know exactly the manner in which she'd have delivered the line. It would have been in a slightly halting, ever-so-slightly self-aware but exaggeratedly expressive manner. Saying such a line, this sort of person is acutely insecure of their cultural depth, and aware that using such a word as 'n****r' transgresses their narrow cultural bounds. In saying it anyway, she comes across as an aspirational culture-tourist, as someone who wishes to impress others by if not demonstrating a great knowledge of their supposed cultural depth, at least recognising some of its major tenets.

Unfotunately, she is also a complete idiot, so this effort fell flat on its sorry face.

Just got offed, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

The transcript is hilarious - they star out s**t and f**k but keep in nigger, obviously deciding that it's not offensive enough to censor.

The Wayward Johnny B, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Considering that their surname is "Dolomite", I'm guessing that may possibly be a troll.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

'the coloured girl'

fuckinghell

Ste, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

You'd do her though, Louis, right? Over a bench?

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Louis: would you rather have sex with a black girl or a racist white girl?

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

even Gollywogs have now been taken away from us.

Hazel, Chester.

I should stop reading these.

onimo, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

My girlfriend's brother would do her over a bench in a second.

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Louis: would you rather have sex with a black girl or a racist white girl?

the correct answer is UFFIE

blueski, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

My ex (with whom I parted yesterday, in fact) was a quarter black, and identified herself with black culture more than white. The answer to your question is DEFINITELY the black girl, unless she has a similar personality defect and/or is physically repellent.

Just got offed, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

what a relief!

blueski, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

junglefeverdvd.jpg

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

"a quarter black"!!

the diff btw shaun of the dead - though that would be obviously cringeworthy and pretty eeeuurrgggh should it happen in real life - is that it was affectionate; what emily said, at least as it reads in the transcript, was NOT affectionate, it was like a dis (i.e. "that's so gay")

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

her words, tracer!

Just got offed, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

If she'd just had the brains to say "You, work it girlfriend!", we wouldn't have to be having this conversation yet again.

Stone Monkey, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

the fine line between stupid and not stupid.

Mark G, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

How about "You work it, coloured!"

chap, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

what if she had fashioned a bottle opener in her likeness?

acrobat, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

"You work it, ebony brethren"

Just got offed, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

"You work it, quarter black"

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

LJ i don't really care whose words they were?? my point was that it's always seemed strange to me when people divvy themselves up like that ("i'm an eighth cherokee") - why not just say "my granddad was black" or whatever? you are 100% you

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

and that's one to grow on

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but she only said it in passing. She later clarified it by talking at length about her grandad in St. Kitt's. I think she's very proud (and rightly so) of her heritage. It's over now, though. cryingeagle.jpg.

Just got offed, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

A mate of mine always bangs on about being a sixteenth black, which is pretty hilarious.

chap, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

My girlfriend is a quarter Polish (or an eighth? I forget) and says so on occasion; she never met the Polish side of the family so to her it's an equation, not a person.

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Lesley was in classic quietly firm primary school headmistress mode when reading out the announcement this morning. Getting them all to sit down nicely and hush.

Zig and Zag have since been ramping up their lovey-dovey flirting, which you either find sweet or really nauseating.

DavidM, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

From what I understand about race genetics (I might have this wrong though), I don't think it can work like that anyway. People can be mixed race but mixed race people only pass one of those skin colours down, so quarterblackgirl will either be half black or not black at all depending on whether her half-black parent passed down the genes that made him/her black, or the genes from whatever the other race was.

Lots of xposts

V, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

she comes across as an aspirational culture-tourist, as someone who wishes to impress others by if not demonstrating a great knowledge of their supposed cultural depth, at least recognising some of its major tenets

You make her sound like you, Louis

Tom D., Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

"I'm 45th generation Roman..."

blueski, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

'Apprentice' star Katie 'applied for Big Brother'
Thursday, June 7 2007, 16:11 BST

By Nick Levine, Entertainment Reporter


The Apprentice's Katie Hopkins is so desperate for fame that she once applied for Big Brother, her step-daughter has claimed.

Charlie McKinney, whose father Damian married Hopkins in 2004, claimed that her step-mother was once a stand-by for the reality TV show.

Hopkins has become infamous in recent weeks thanks to her appearances on The Apprentice, during which she slayed her fellow contestants with a series of sharp put-downs.

McKinney told the Daily Mirror: "Katie went for Big Brother and was a stand-by. She's very into celebrity. I wouldn't be surprised to see her on the next Celebrity Big Brother."

Mark G, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

I'm an eighth Italian. I do bring this up when Italy are doing well at football.

Am I a dick? (yes).

jim, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

something like this was bound to happen

RJG, Thursday, 7 June 2007 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

Arsene wenger
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 247 Actually there was outrage. Just as much as this if not more.
Derek made a racial remark every single week. Those that pointed it out were shut down by the anti-PC brigade.

acrobat, Thursday, 7 June 2007 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

happened across this vid of emily pushing it out

RJG, Thursday, 7 June 2007 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

now i have also happened across it.

blueski, Thursday, 7 June 2007 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

h on v

onimo, Thursday, 7 June 2007 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to V, that's completely the opposite of what I was taught about genetics! I was taught that skin colour comes from multiple genes, which is how 2 white parents can produce a dark-skinned baby.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 7 June 2007 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

I can't find a vid of Emily's pineapple-on-head dance :(

DavidM, Thursday, 7 June 2007 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

Please please PLEASE someone work out how to shut Charley up.

ailsa, Thursday, 7 June 2007 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

Laura to win, again.

Girls: Oh my God it's a spider!
Lesley: You see, that spider, I should point out that that's something you can see. It's the things you can't see that you should be the most scared of.
Laura: Like ghosts?!

V, Thursday, 7 June 2007 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not very keen on Charley

Sandy Blair, Thursday, 7 June 2007 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno, from those highlights I thought she came off better than Chanelle, apart from the "I'm going to report her for throwing a piece of paper at me" bit.

Good to see Laura's sussed Ziggy out.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 7 June 2007 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

The Charley perspective on the Charley/Chanelle fight tonight, particularly with Ziggy trying to broker peace, has been hilarious.

aldo, Thursday, 7 June 2007 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

omg this fucking scene...

CharlieNo4, Thursday, 7 June 2007 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

OMG at Shabnam molesting Charley's boobs.

ailsa, Thursday, 7 June 2007 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

OK, can someone with the ability to filter conversation out of that screaming gibberish wall of noise please summarise?

ailsa, Thursday, 7 June 2007 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

Erm, but yeah, fvck it, let it go, er, why did you bring it up, NO, OK YES, NO, this starts arguments, LET IT GO!

RickyT, Thursday, 7 June 2007 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that was about all I got from it. With added "LET IT GO".

Shabnam's not exactly unbonkers, is she?

ailsa, Thursday, 7 June 2007 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

So Emily then... why did she not show any sort of empathy and say something like 'so that upset you jeez I'm sorry', there was no... curiosity about the (presumably) surprising reaction.

Sandy Blair, Thursday, 7 June 2007 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

SPEAK UP WOMAN!

RickyT, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

her intelligence really shone through in her diary room self-justification

czn, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah I don't think she even said sorry until they told her to leave!

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

hmmm. not sure what to make of all that. only saw the last 20 mins. was bit disapointed in charley for constantly saying shes not offended and defending emily but i think she just wanted to get on with things and not be seen as the troublemaker or making a big deal of it. i like the way nicky dealt with it though. i think shes my fave in the house. or the most normal one. and yeah it was weird how dense emily was when charley kept asking her how she came out with that. she didnt seem genuinely repentant at the end in the diary room though. she actaully looked like 'HUH im being kicked out for THIS?! how very weird' when she was told shed have to leave.

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

im actually starting to like charly more. and even shabnam. didnt quite hear what shabnam said when she was trying to figure out what emily said but i rate her for at least saying (at least i think she said this) that she wanted to know what emily said so she could know what sort of person she is.

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

now i've seen it, i'm way more confused than i was when the news broke.

i was expecting some kind of mock brizzle gangsta patois, but emily just came out and said it.

she literally used it in the same jokey way you'd say "ya great galah" or "yer daft ha'p'th" or "you silly sod" - and i've never encoundered that usage in my life, among black people, white people, anyone.

CharlieNo4, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

Early edition of the Evening Post:

Downend Racist evicted from Big Brother house.

later versions more moderated but Bristol reacts in the comments field:

http://www.epost.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=144913&command=displayContent&sourceNode=231190&home=yes&more_nodeId1=144922&contentPK=17507354

I love the notion that Bristol (arguably Britain's centre of the slave trade which, let's not forget, managed a couple of riots which may have been racially motivated in the 80s) is somehow much more accepting than EVERYWHERE ELSE.

aldo, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

BBBM with George Galloway is SO MUCH surrealer than it ever was with Brand.

blueski, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

Charley was doing a really shit job of not looking offended.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

LOL @ GG "this is a girl who thought indie music was new"

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

the way emily said it was like the fucking 50s/60s generation - no clue it might be offensive.

i wanna know what people in bristol think of this since she kept defending it with 'where im from this is normal'

"Charley was doing a really shit job of not looking offended."

right.

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

Two men going in tomorrow night according to George Galloway on BBBM just now.

ailsa, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

Somewhat less seriously, Emily was a terrible housemate and I think would have been evicted anyway on Friday.

Shabnam looks like she may have a whole big story arc to come, she's clearly unhinged and I for one want to see her do a full-on bunny boiling thing with one of the new blokes. Plus apparently she hasn't had sex in a year which could make things doubly entertaining.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

shabnam offered to do a shit in public, when emily and ziggy were trying to explain their choosing her to receive their punishment

RJG, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

I thought she seemed repentant. The comment seemed, perversely, intended to show her knowledge of black culture and to get her closer to Charley - who, uncharacteristically, seemed to handle the situation in a very mature and understated manner. I really felt for her watching the highlights, struggling to understand this girl that could come out with such a thing. It didn't seem like she was being vindictive by discussing it with other people - more like she was genuinely trying to understand what could have made Emily say such a thing.

The coverage seemed very "LOOK HOW GOOD WE ARE AT RESPONDING TO THIS OH NO WE DON'T TOLERATE THAT SORT OF THING HURRAY FOR CHANNEL 4". They seemed to go to pains to show that Emily's word was used in a different manner from Messrs Goody and Co. and that they were taking action anyway. The difference between Emily and Jade Goody is that Emily will lack a forum, or the money, to argue her case.

Big Brother's stirring-up tactics seem increasingly geared to causing division and insecurity. Since series 3, they seem to have realised that making people hate each other makes for higher viewing figures than letting them get on. If the show as a whole is geared towards division and destructive group dynamics, and we as viewers find that compelling, why are we surprised when that culture of hate spills out verbally?

Going back to Jade Goody for a moment, Endemol must have been aware that this woman was a nasty bully before she re-entered the house with a couple of stooges. Their inclusion in the house seemed designed to cause anger and resentment. If the rules are so hot on behaviour that causes offence to housemates - why have whole series been allowed to go on where housemates were bullied mercilessly (thinking particularly Sophie in BB3)? The message coming from this is that bullying is actually okay, as long as you're subtle about how you do it.

Having been on the receiving end of a few un-PC words myself, it IS the intent that makes the biggest impact. Hell, the words have an impact, an incredible, incredible impact, but worse of all is the insidious bully that manages to say things, to imply things, without ever coming out with a word that means they get caught out. Saskia and Maxwell were allowed to get away with more subtle behaviour of this type for weeks. Its clear that Endemol, for all their moral posturing, aren't doing this for any moral purpose, but because they don't want to get in the shit and have their show cancelled.

hobart paving, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

Shabnam is going to be a great housemate.

hobart paving, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

I thought GG actually did a pretty good job of putting over "this is what young people are supposed to be able to say, why is she being lambasted for what society is apparently telling us is acceptable even if she was being naive for actually saying it?"

It's not normal in Bristol, I would think especially not in the middle class estate outside of the pseudo-middle class area outside of the working class area which borders one of the bigger black areas where she lives (sorry, that looks horrible, but hopefully you understand what I mean - in London terms she lives in somewhere like Sevenoaks, other side of places like Bromley, which is the other side of wherever, which borders something approaching an integrated community). Also, Filton College where she studies drama has had racial tension issues in the past.

aldo, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

hobart paving absolutely OTM. And I felt for Emily in the diary room. Charley didn't seem personally offended by it all, even 'underneath'. But she was immediately aware of what the repercussions might be. So was Emily come to that.

DavidM, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

I think she was more upset than offended - there's that feeling when you're getting on with someone, and they say something, even inadvertently that can bring previous experiences back, carry a cultural significance they're completely unaware of, and immediately you're back as that outsider again - even worse, you're put outside by someone you thought understood and accepted you. There's probably a hell of a lot of projection going on there, but that, to me, seemed to be what Charley was going through. I actually think she wanted to LET IT GO LET IT GO LET IT GO THEN but just wasn't able to, without working out how she felt about it.

She also seemed genuinely upset at Emily's eviction. Weirdly, I'm finding myself now liking her.

hobart paving, Thursday, 7 June 2007 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

I thought GG actually did a pretty good job of putting over "this is what young people are supposed to be able to say, why is she being lambasted for what society is apparently telling us is acceptable even if she was being naive for actually saying it?"

I don't believe anyone believes that young people are supposed to be able to say "are you pushing it out, you nigger?"

RJG, Thursday, 7 June 2007 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

"I think she was more upset than offended - there's that feeling when you're getting on with someone, and they say something, even inadvertently that can bring previous experiences back, carry a cultural significance they're completely unaware of, and immediately you're back as that outsider again - even worse, you're put outside by someone you thought understood and accepted you. There's probably a hell of a lot of projection going on there, but that, to me, seemed to be what Charley was going through. I actually think she wanted to LET IT GO LET IT GO LET IT GO THEN but just wasn't able to, without working out how she felt about it.

She also seemed genuinely upset at Emily's eviction. Weirdly, I'm finding myself now liking her."

OTM and me too.

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 7 June 2007 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

OTOH to my previous, yes, bits of hobart paving OTM. Emily did seem fairly horrified by the suggestion she had been even perceived as racist, especially compared to the likes of Danielle Lloyd and Jo Sclub last year, who appeared not to care. Endemol have showed their lack of care before - Saskia definitely said worse things when she was in the house, and the unshown dialogue from CBB makes clear it went on in an implicit level through use of 'codewords' - and their behaviour here appears heavy handed as a result.

xpost to RJG - that's because you don't believe THERE'S A NEW MUSIC TAKING OVER THE COUNTRY AND IT'S CALLED INDIE. Although seriously, isn't this the point Russell Siimons and Jay-Z were making the other week?

aldo, Thursday, 7 June 2007 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

Hobart mostly OTM, but although Charley acted with some dignity, I find it difficult (based on previous evidence) to believe that she will maintain it for long.

ailsa, Thursday, 7 June 2007 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

i think emily was sorry but at the end of her grilling/telling off she did seem a bit surprised/shocked that she was being punished so severely and almost amused by it. but that might just be cos she was asleep 5 mins earlier and found it a bit surreal.

charlie was apparently already wondering if she would be in the papers!

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 7 June 2007 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

cops say it's the guilty who always fall asleep first in the interrogation room

i haven't caught up with this thread yet but i think the twist of the knife for emily - the small misstep inside a her much much larger one - was accidentally saying "YOU n!gg4" instead of "MY n!gg4"

(or "n!gg3r"? - it's impossible to tell the difference between the two in her posho accent!)

in any case her weak-ass delivery of herself at every microsecond after she uttered that word, especially her subsequent self-justification in the diary room, has made me extremely pleased to see her booted forthwith and with extreme prejudice, out on that bottom of hers

forgotten in all of this is the bad craziness that is chenelle

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 June 2007 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

while i thought ch4, on the whole, acted the only way they could i thought that "you must leave immediately through the door on your left" thing was probably not constructive. i can't see any reason why she shouldn't have been able to go and collect her things and tell her housemates she was being booted.

jed_, Thursday, 7 June 2007 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

cause c4's behavior is also part of the plot

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 June 2007 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

but yeah they could have been wayyy more imaginative

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 June 2007 23:39 (nineteen years ago)

most of what i wanted to say is in hobart's post which = 16160/2

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 June 2007 23:41 (nineteen years ago)

and oh yeah, there's no need to let it "play out" and not evict her because in the real world the consequences and discussion about weird comments like that seldom play out in that person's presence - it WILL play out, just without her

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 June 2007 23:47 (nineteen years ago)

accidentally saying "YOU n!gg4" instead of "MY n!gg4"

I suggested something similar, earlier today, citing jackie chan in rush hour part one when he gets into some trouble that he hadn't imagined would arise as a result of imitating chris tucker's greeting of "hello, my ...". even jackie chan, his first time in the western world, knows about the subtle difference between "my" and you". despite this, the offended men still try to beat him up and do not succeed

RJG, Thursday, 7 June 2007 23:53 (nineteen years ago)

That bit from Rush Hour may be the best scene in movie history.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 7 June 2007 23:56 (nineteen years ago)

She didn't seem to accept she'd done anything wrong or apologise until after they'd told her she'd been chucked out, I think evicting her was the only way to get it through to her that she'd done anything wrong.

V, Friday, 8 June 2007 00:00 (nineteen years ago)

If Emily were as good at fighting as Jackie Chan we wouldn't be in this mess.

chap, Friday, 8 June 2007 00:04 (nineteen years ago)

You make her sound like you, Louis

this is one of the laziest zings i have ever seen

Just got offed, Friday, 8 June 2007 01:47 (nineteen years ago)

zing

Gukbe, Friday, 8 June 2007 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

As someone said above, the lesson here is that in the BB house, you can consistently bully someone and get a warning, but if you call them a offensive name (albeit in a non-hostile manner), you'll get thrown out sans underwear and goodbyes.

I wonder though if Emily had been a bit more repentant immediately after (not apologizing for being racist, but apologizing for making Charley feel uncomfortable) the BB house might have done things a bit differently? Instead of saying "I'm sorry," she kept saying "it's okay, it's not big deal, whatever". And Laura kept bugging me...desperately trying to be part of the drama.

musically, Friday, 8 June 2007 05:56 (nineteen years ago)

shabnam offered to do a shit in public, when emily and ziggy were trying to explain their choosing her to receive their punishment

That got a WTF from me. Of all the things to offer. I think on balance she's rather have shat in public than wear beige and lose her make-up.

I can't believe Emily regularly calls her mates n*****s, or that they call her one. I think it's something she seen on MTV once (between All New Indie Sweeping Teh UK shows) and thought she'd try out. In any case, it's something you just don't say. Ever. So she had to go.

I little niggle in the back of my mind says this entire thing was engineered by Endemol and Emily was hired to go in and demonstrate their Zero Tolerance approach. Maybe because it was so surreal for the word to come out in the way it did, or because she didn't cry at being evicted or at being thought of as racist.

Emily is available for hire as a Mexican - and lists "Harry Potter" as an additional skill.

onimo, Friday, 8 June 2007 06:27 (nineteen years ago)

I'm only sad that this stupidity and unpleasantness has taken the spotlight away from Chanelle being a psycho hose beast and Shabnam wanting to do a big shit live on telly.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 June 2007 06:50 (nineteen years ago)

Well they're adding a gay couple tomorrow so I think the focus will be off of Emily soon enough. And no way is Chanelle's inner beast not going to make another appearance. I love watching her slowly go mental.

musically, Friday, 8 June 2007 06:56 (nineteen years ago)

What a shame Emily won't be there to greet them with a hearty "Hey you Pooftahs!"

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 June 2007 06:59 (nineteen years ago)

Controversial opinion..

Shabnam could actually go all the way, even win!

She seems unphased by most things, took her 'punishment' with good grace even though it wasn't her 'crime' etc..

Mark G, Friday, 8 June 2007 07:27 (nineteen years ago)

My office is having a "political correctness gone mad" debate about this. Also "look at rap music they call each other it all the time" :(

onimo, Friday, 8 June 2007 07:48 (nineteen years ago)

She seems unphased by most things

That's because she never ever knows what's going on. Her confused goldfish face is awesome.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 June 2007 08:03 (nineteen years ago)

big mouth was annoying cos everyone seemed so reasonable / right on. there was no "why can they say honky", "it's political correctness gone mad" douchery. this kind of shit needs to be brought ouit in the open and shot down.

acrobat, Friday, 8 June 2007 08:08 (nineteen years ago)

OK, start another thread about why "they" can say honky.

Naturally, I'm not serious and neither are you.

The last time I heard "honky" used in context was Hot Chocolate (or 3 dog night, US readers?) and "Brother Louie"

Mark G, Friday, 8 June 2007 08:11 (nineteen years ago)

What about Dick Emery?

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 June 2007 08:14 (nineteen years ago)

that was "honky tonk" i.e. piano bars, or something.

Mark G, Friday, 8 June 2007 08:17 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think Shabnam is going to win.

Matt DC, Friday, 8 June 2007 08:19 (nineteen years ago)

but it seems to be a meme that is repeated whenever race comes up in this country.

acrobat, Friday, 8 June 2007 08:20 (nineteen years ago)

If we shot the next person who used the phrase "Political Correctness gone mad" in the face and hung their corpse out for the jackdaws it might calm things down.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 June 2007 08:22 (nineteen years ago)

anyway i think casual "comedy racism" amongst white middle class kids from the suburbs / provinces is far more prevelant than people are willing to accept.

acrobat, Friday, 8 June 2007 08:23 (nineteen years ago)

"Why can they call us Hongroe?"

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 June 2007 08:25 (nineteen years ago)

>> White mischief << Bristol babe gets it all wrong So indie-loving posho Emily gets canned from Big Brother for using a racist term to the show's only African-Caribbean contestant. While it's suspiciously convenient for Channel 4, it's hard to feel any sympathy when you hear Emily's friends springing to her defence. Here's "Lucie" on Facebook: "What the hell are you on about 'dirty racist', she was obviously blatently (sic) joking, it's not a big deal, it's only people like you and people who have got so strung up about little things that the person did not mean in offence that have made this country so god damn politically disgustingly correct! URGHH political correctness will be the downfall of ENGLAND. Don't take everything so seriously, learn to take a joke and have a sense of humour or you'll all end up like that idiot Charley."

acrobat, Friday, 8 June 2007 08:33 (nineteen years ago)

See what I mean? Gun. Face. Jackdaws. Sorted.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 June 2007 08:36 (nineteen years ago)

Now 'friend on facebook' != 'friend'

Mark G, Friday, 8 June 2007 08:36 (nineteen years ago)

Well she must have known, or at least added said person BEFORE she went in big brother. Racism: Not a big deal for white people.

acrobat, Friday, 8 June 2007 08:41 (nineteen years ago)

ok, did not know that.

Mark G, Friday, 8 June 2007 08:43 (nineteen years ago)

Honky is by no means the white equivalent of nigger though is it? I'm sure it never has been, and in fact there really isn't a direct equivalent is there? How about cracker? Nobody uses that outside the US though, right?

All this arguing is strange.

CharlieNo4, Friday, 8 June 2007 09:28 (nineteen years ago)

this entire thing was engineered by Endemol and Emily was hired to go in and demonstrate their Zero Tolerance approach

do we definitely know that this wasn't the case?

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 8 June 2007 09:30 (nineteen years ago)

come on

RJG, Friday, 8 June 2007 09:31 (nineteen years ago)

I little niggle in the back of my mind says this entire thing was engineered by Endemol

Oh oh, it's started.

Whichever, the difference between the 'N' word and the word Emily used is chasmic and she has completely been a victim of circumstance here, she's the first one to pay the price for Jade & co's racism and bullying. In previous years she would have been given a warning, at most.

She also said the words "I apologise" and "I'm sorry" to Charley's face, so I don't know what people are going on about there.

As for honky: cornershoptokenhonkytshirt.jpg

DavidM, Friday, 8 June 2007 09:45 (nineteen years ago)

the last time i remember hearing 'honky' was Clyde Travernier saying it in Eastenders in the early 90s i think.

blueski, Friday, 8 June 2007 09:49 (nineteen years ago)

Honky is by no means the white equivalent of nigger though is it? I'm sure it never has been, and in fact there really isn't a direct equivalent is there? How about cracker?

CHALKY

Dom Passantino, Friday, 8 June 2007 09:50 (nineteen years ago)

Then why the fuck do people on messageboards and people in Devon bring it up?

acrobat, Friday, 8 June 2007 09:50 (nineteen years ago)

It was used in Love Thy Neighbour. That black dude got a bit of an ego on him, so Devon's happy to cut him down.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 8 June 2007 09:51 (nineteen years ago)

the clip i saw of Love Thy Neighbour on the Lenny Henry Night In thing made me laugh :/

blueski, Friday, 8 June 2007 09:52 (nineteen years ago)

Emergency Blueski Ward 10

Dom Passantino, Friday, 8 June 2007 09:52 (nineteen years ago)

The dude lunged at him with a spear as a wind-up. It was like something out of Seinfeld.

blueski, Friday, 8 June 2007 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

the difference between the 'N' word and the word Emily used is chasmic

wtf Emily used the 'N' word!

onimo, Friday, 8 June 2007 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

The dude lunged at him with a spear as a wind-up. It was like something out of Seinfeld.Extras.

Fixed.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 8 June 2007 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

I think there might also have been an element of Endemol's realisation that Shabnam would make a more interesting housemate and that booting Emily would save them the bother and risk of lack of success of continuing to edit against her. Also, it gets good viewing figures. A warning wouldn't have got half as much (good) publicity, which is something they need right now.

AND it saves their asses. Everyone's a winner*. 'cept Charley, who genuinely didn't seem to want Emily to go (and maybe it should be her decision, in the end?) and some daft 19 year old from Bristol who had better go into hiding for a while.

(x-post to David M)

*everyone at Endemol, that is, obviously.

hobart paving, Friday, 8 June 2007 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

the difference between the 'N' word and the word Emily used is chasmic?

crossposts

RJG, Friday, 8 June 2007 09:58 (nineteen years ago)

DavidM it's going to be hard for me to take much of what you say seriously after you said:

Charley didn't seem personally offended by it all, even 'underneath'.

I mean, watch it again.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 8 June 2007 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

90% of comments of the BBC debate are 'black people say it so why can't white people'. I think Emily, and so it seems, the rest of the UK need a lesson on why this word carries offense. The excuse 'they say it in rap songs on the radio' is bullshit - the n-word is censored on the radio/MTV for fucks sake.

tpp, Friday, 8 June 2007 10:04 (nineteen years ago)

She was trying very hard not to be. I'll give her that. xpost

Mark G, Friday, 8 June 2007 10:06 (nineteen years ago)

charley - trying to run the white guilt trip train to victory?

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watching the highlights show i got the feeling that charley realised what a big moment for her in the house the whole emily saga was going to be, her behaviour in the bedroom towards ziggy, telling shabnam...total gameplaying.

even before that her riduclous performance towards chanelle when she said she was going to r port her for throwing the laminate at her was aughable.

i just hope people aren't going to blindly go down the shilpa route again this series to prove something to the world

acrobat, Friday, 8 June 2007 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/news/newsstory.jsp?id=3081

is shabnam being chucked out??

i dont think charley was trying to exploit the incident after it happened at all. everyone saying she didnt seem offended is a bit off the mark. she was just trying to forget it and move on, not cause an incident etc. not that unlike shilpa. but it was obviously bothering her - just look at her face the whole time. she looks quite anxious.

"anyway i think casual "comedy racism" amongst white middle class kids from the suburbs / provinces is far more prevelant than people are willing to accept."

white people love using the n-word. no really, they do.

titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 8 June 2007 10:43 (nineteen years ago)

That's one of the milder ones, there's a worrying amount of people blaming Charley for this and accusing her of being an attention whore and milking it by pretending to be hurt. Is it because people hated her 3 days ago and some can't suddenly switch to sympathy so easily? That's still worrying.

xpost

V, Friday, 8 June 2007 10:46 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/news/newsstory.jsp?id=3081

is shabnam being chucked out??

This was the bit where they made her give all her clothes and make-up in and wear unattractive clothes for the rest of the series. She took it quite well, considering.

Again, this is some indication of why BB can never be taken entirely seriously when it criticises housemates for bullying. Given the context (girl insecure about looks, house full of more attractive women vying for attention) this is a clever, and cruel, way of punishing her for something she didn't do. Thankfully, she actually seems to have risen to the challenge. I respected her for that.

hobart paving, Friday, 8 June 2007 10:51 (nineteen years ago)

charley is a bit thick and an airhead but she doesnt seem quite that calculating, and i dont think even she would stoop so low as to milk something like this. she seemed genuinely quite worried about emily being evicted.

titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 8 June 2007 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

white people love using the n-word. no really, they do.

they all think and look the same these white people

blueski, Friday, 8 June 2007 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

If she wanted to make a scene about it she'd have shouted and done the Vicky Pollard thing like she has done before when she wanted some drama. She seems to act very differently when she's actually hurt.

V, Friday, 8 June 2007 10:53 (nineteen years ago)

"they all think and look the same these white people"

i meant white people in my office to be more specific. sorry.

titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 8 June 2007 10:56 (nineteen years ago)

has no one else come across "comedy racism"? last night i mentioned to a friend that i had been a bit disturbed by a mutual acquaintances use of little britain style "comedy racism". turns out that the degree level educated girl in question thinks it's the height of humour to refer to black people as "chocolate faces" but y know in her mind it's ok cos it's "ironic" or "subversive" or whatever.

acrobat, Friday, 8 June 2007 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

the thing about ironic racism is that its only cool in my experience if you are both friends and have a certain understanding between each other.

titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 8 June 2007 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

yeh but this is in totally white groups of people. so context.

but then a few years back i once tried arguing the toss with a racist guy at the place i was working with. this guy boasted about dreaming of being ralph finnes in schindler's list and picking off jews, so y know the kind of the mindset we're dealing with. anyway, the manager who picked up on this dude gave me the reassurance;
"yeh he can't act like that, your dad might be black."

acrobat, Friday, 8 June 2007 11:05 (nineteen years ago)

Roffling at 'chocolate face' - this is what kids used to call me when I started school - 'chocolate bar, chocolate face'.

How imaginative of them! I wish I'd had a wittier comeback than "well look at you, you're a WHITEY" (I was five though so....)

*rumpie*, Friday, 8 June 2007 11:21 (nineteen years ago)

i remember when i started school some kids used to be surprised that my teeth and nails werent brown LOL.

titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 8 June 2007 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

Kids were astounded that my mum was white and assumed that I was adopted!

*rumpie*, Friday, 8 June 2007 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't like the way they cut straight to the part where Emily said what she said, with no context of where it came from (them dancing and having fun). Instead it appeared as if she just turned to Charley and said it out of the blue. There should have been more build-up.

But there's no conspiracy on Endemol's part, they had to throw Emily out, and make a big show of Acting Responsibly, if they didn't Channel 4 would get kicked all over the park.
Any other time it would have been too harsh to evict someone for saying that, and hypocritical too, as what Emily said was merely the verbal equivalent of last weeks breakdance task: ie trying on US/black/urban/hip-hop etc culture for semi-ironic, jokey effect.

DavidM, Friday, 8 June 2007 11:37 (nineteen years ago)

the history, meaning and usage of various styles of dance can be v closely related to the history, meaning and usage of many offensive terms

RJG, Friday, 8 June 2007 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

as what Emily said was merely the verbal equivalent of last weeks breakdance task: ie trying on US/black/urban/hip-hop etc culture for semi-ironic, jokey effect.

no it wasn't. she said "you nigger", the accusatory way she said it, "YOU nigger" is damning enough. plus when is a white person calling a black person a nigger a part of US/black/urban culture???

Ronan, Friday, 8 June 2007 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

RJG is correct. As recently as the early 90s Saddam Hussein did the worm to thousands of Kurds.

Ronan, Friday, 8 June 2007 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

for semi-ironic, jokey effect.

Just a bit of fun eh? Let's be cool...

onimo, Friday, 8 June 2007 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't like the way they cut straight to the part where Emily said what she said, with no context of where it came from (them dancing and having fun).

They showed Charley thrusting her stomach and hips forward and saying "I hope I'm not pregnant."

Emily responded: "You're pushing it out, you n****r."

What more context do you need?

onimo, Friday, 8 June 2007 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

They edited out the part where Emily was an 80 year old African woman

Ronan, Friday, 8 June 2007 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

They didn't show the bit where the Nation of Islam threatened to kill Emily if her family didn't pay protection money on their business.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 8 June 2007 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

there WAS build-up - you see charley and emily singing "U.G.L.Y." together and having a ball - the two of them had formed their own little two-girl clique in therapeutic response to chanelle's meltdown - in those moments they DO genuinely start finding out that they like each other, which is what makes emily's utter, utter boneheadedness so tragic and from charley's point of view surely added to the shock of it, like getting blindsided.

it's clear that charley would rather have turned blue than answer "yes" to emily's repeated, pathetic question: "you're not offended, are you?" - and who could possibly say "yes" to that question without feeling weak, lame, self-victimizing - in short, in exactly the place that casual racism is designed to make you feel? every second the issue remained alive, the colour of charley's skin was in the spotlight. did you notice how almost maniacally she tried to get shabnam not to talk about it? (and how opportunistically emily jumped on this as an excuse to bully up on shabnam and feel big again?) but as far as emily getting sent home goes, it isn't about charley. it isn't even about emily actually - what kind of person she is, or whether she is or isn't a racist. it's about whether there are consequences for using casually racist language on television. because of charley's totally understandable desire to just make it go away, and emily's total lack of remorse or desire to understand what had gone wrong, something had to be done. if nothing had been done it would have never been referred to again, probably.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 8 June 2007 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

Tracer, you are so OTM it hurts

Tom D., Friday, 8 June 2007 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

so which 80's pop video is the Diary Room reminding me of? Kinda like a cheap Tron makeover

Ste, Friday, 8 June 2007 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

when they go in there they should be made to say "greetings programme!"

blueski, Friday, 8 June 2007 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

"who the fuck does she calculate she is?"

Ste, Friday, 8 June 2007 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

also lost in all this is shabnam's shameless leching on practically any girl she can get her hands on!

question: is diary room footage only available on the highlights show?

Tracer Hand, Friday, 8 June 2007 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

yes

Ste, Friday, 8 June 2007 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

and sometimes they have a special show featuring only diary room footage

Ste, Friday, 8 June 2007 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

but they never show diary room stuff in the live feed

Ste, Friday, 8 June 2007 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

was it lionel ritchie, (the tron pop video) ?

Ste, Friday, 8 June 2007 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.myspace.com/chantanyell

onimo, Friday, 8 June 2007 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

so which 80's pop video is the Diary Room reminding me of? Kinda like a cheap Tron makeover

Or like the video for 12:51 by The Strokes.

Chris in Belfast, Friday, 8 June 2007 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't realise Chanelle was only 19.

chap, Friday, 8 June 2007 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

emily thinking it was acceptable to talk about nominations was insane

just saw a BBLB from before she was out. she kept going and going and talking and guessing and asking and acting like she wasn't anywhere near any of the rules. she tricked ziggy into revealing because she "wanted to know". what a gonk. ziggy was really stupid about it, too. even after they were punished! ziggy said something about people implying chanelle was a slut and emily said "that's why I was nominated" and ziggy said "you think that's why?"

RJG, Friday, 8 June 2007 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Ziggy insisting that Emily didn't trick him despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary was pretty dickish.

chap, Friday, 8 June 2007 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

what was he supposed to do? think he wasn't denying it, in the end

RJG, Friday, 8 June 2007 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

But:

Charley: "she said something so shocking, I can't quite come to terms with it"
Ziggy: "What, 'I fancy you?'"

Mark G, Friday, 8 June 2007 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

i think they should be allowed to discuss noms. all the time.

blueski, Friday, 8 June 2007 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

i think they should have 24 hour posting access to ILX.

acrobat, Friday, 8 June 2007 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah we need more egos in here.

onimo, Friday, 8 June 2007 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

I think people should be allowed to earn their nominations and keep them

RJG, Friday, 8 June 2007 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

Task based nominations privileges would be a great idea. It would force everyone into making an effort (or sucking up to the good at tasks people).

onimo, Friday, 8 June 2007 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

nom nom nom

blueski, Friday, 8 June 2007 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Considering this is the most UK active thread at the moment, can someone find ILX's "Viz" thread for me? I can't.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 8 June 2007 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

ha, Viz is a 'stop' word.

Mark G, Friday, 8 June 2007 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

otherwise the search engine would return every post that mark s ever made!

Tracer Hand, Friday, 8 June 2007 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

Watched a full ep of BB last night for the first time this series - I guess the bugger has me hooked now.

Charley's reaction was astonishingly restrained for a girl who could probably start an argument with herself. I think it was one of astounded disbelief that someone she seemed to be bonding with could be so thoughtless. Her repeated question of "Where the fuck did that come from? " seemed to be summing up her reaction beautifully. I suspect that were a similar situation to occur to me, that's exactly what I'd be saying.

Emily's insistance that Charley not be offended by it was revealing. Here is a young woman whom, I rather suspect, has been able to do and say anything she wants and get away with it by dint of privilege, physical attractiveness or any of the other things that I'm sure she has going for her. She seemed to believe that if she told someone how she wanted them to think they would actually think that way for her.

Her performance in the Diary Room was interesting too; the only time she showed any form of regret was when it appeared that there were definite consequences for her actions were inescapable for her. To be honest, I did feel a little sorry for her. Watching her in the Diary room was a little like watching a child be told that there was no Father Christmas. You could see her realise on screen that she couldn't always get her own way - this was probably some sort of major paradigm shift for her, I should think.

Stone Monkey, Friday, 8 June 2007 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

There's no Father Christmas ?!

Ste, Friday, 8 June 2007 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

Hate to break that to you in such a manner.
And there's probably a "that were" missing from the last paragraph of that btw.

ps.

i remember when i started school some kids used to be surprised that my teeth and nails werent brown LOL.

-- titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 8 June 2007 11:24 (3 hours ago) Link

I know what you mean, I still meet white people who are surpised that my palms and the soles of my feet aren't brown.

Stone Monkey, Friday, 8 June 2007 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

tbf, it was 03:30 when Emily was evicted. She went from dozy to suddenly awake, then drowsy again by the time of her final farewell.

Then again, it looked like Big Brother trying to get her to justify/apologise like she *could* have stayed in, if she'd said the right thing.

I don't think that was true however.

Mark G, Friday, 8 June 2007 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Most kids at my school had brown fingernails.

onimo, Friday, 8 June 2007 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

I missed it last night but here it seems more like a slip of the tongue, something she'd casually say to her right-wing dad at their right-wing dinner table while her right-wing mum chuckles from behind a copy of the Daily Mail. The way she gasps and goes "Oh my gosh I just called you a n..." proves that it ISN'T something her and her multitudes of black friends call each other, that she knows it's out of order and is instantly ashamed it slipped out.

Alternatively, going from how manipulative she can be with what she says ("Oh I couldn't sleep in bed next to a guy on here..", subtext being "u r 1 big slag") and the competitiveness between her and Charley for the role of alpha female, she may have said it in a kind of "know your place.." way but using her well-worn tactic of saying something seemingly innocuous (ie. being all chummy with Charley but using double-meaning to say 'remember, i am posh and white and better than you'). But she badly badly misjudged it obviously.

Either way she deserved to go, and SM nails it with:

Here is a young woman whom, I rather suspect, has been able to do and say anything she wants and get away with it by dint of privilege, physical attractiveness or any of the other things that I'm sure she has going for her.

NI, Friday, 8 June 2007 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

I think you're giving Emily about 10000000 times more credit than her brain deserves there.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 June 2007 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

I did not notice that last night - "Oh my gosh I just called you a n..." - makes it even worse to me, that she didn't think it was fine to go round calling people that, she knew it was wrong immediately. NI OTM in other words...

Colonel Poo, Friday, 8 June 2007 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, that's the first time I've actually seen it, and it sounded a lot worse than I imagined it. There was no jokey hip-hopish inflection to it, it just tumbled off her tounge in quite a disturbingly casual way.

chap, Friday, 8 June 2007 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

"I think you're giving Emily about 10000000 times more credit than her brain deserves there."

Perhaps she didn't do it consciously but I think it's certainly something she's capable of doing. It feels awful to say this about someone who's only 19 years old but in the few days on this show she comes across as a remarkably unpleasant and manipulative person. Maybe this will be a wake-up call, probably not though.

NI, Friday, 8 June 2007 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

BB-inspired work convo today:-

coworker a - oh so what are you doing tonight?
coworker b - going to a garage night.
a - oh thats nice.
b - yeah, im doing my best to be really black.
a - are you going to go there and call them niggers and apologise for it like in big brother then?
b - (nervous laughter)
a - (feeling like he should maybe add some context) i just cant believe that she said that!
b - (nervous laughter) oh me neither!

titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 8 June 2007 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

White people are crazy.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 8 June 2007 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

OK, having actually seen it, it's nothing like rush hour, at all

RJG, Friday, 8 June 2007 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

First time I've seen it as well. Weird, it seemed so casual.

This is fun i agree, she was definately the prettiest and smartest,and i no she didnt mean it at all, isnt that wat matters. i reli wish she can go bak in there

I really despair.

Chris in Belfast, Friday, 8 June 2007 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

Charley: "she said something so shocking, I can't quite come to terms with it"
Ziggy: "What, 'I fancy you?'"

this was a minor classic, and i like to think - even though it's not true - that inbetween these two lines was laura saying "put it this way - it's something emily could never say to ME, but COULD say to HER"

Tracer Hand, Friday, 8 June 2007 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

> but in the few days on this show she comes across as a remarkably unpleasant and manipulative person

there are time when she reminds me of the girl on Brat Camp.

koogs, Friday, 8 June 2007 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

Just watched last night's - waking her up a 3.30 AM to kick her out was a little harsh.

chap, Friday, 8 June 2007 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

Here is the diary room conversation for anyone who hasn't seen it. Note remorse begins when she's told her punishment.

Chris in Belfast, Friday, 8 June 2007 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if the repercussions would have been any different if Emily had said it to, say, Chanelle or Amanda. Probably not, but I suspect it very well may be a word she and her fellow spoilt, middle class white girlfriends in Bristol use in a cringeworthy jokey/affectionate way to each other. Unfortunately for her she happens to be on Big Brother and Charley happens to be black. That has made it easy for some to suggest that she had seen a black person and called them a nigger.

Unless you think she really does refer to black people as niggers.

DavidM, Friday, 8 June 2007 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

DavidM, you are crepey

stevie, Friday, 8 June 2007 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

and bad at this thread

RJG, Friday, 8 June 2007 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

it's just somebody calling a stranger "n!gg3r" on national TV, let's all be cool

Tracer Hand, Friday, 8 June 2007 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

big brother - most elegant refutation ever articulated of the "panopticon" chapter of foucault's "discipline and punish"?

Tracer Hand, Friday, 8 June 2007 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

by the way i keep google-proofing the word partly because i feel weird writing it - even in a clinical fashion - but mainly because i don't want googling racist trolls showing up here

Tracer Hand, Friday, 8 June 2007 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if the repercussions would have been any different if Emily had said it to, say, Chanelle or Amanda. Probably not, but I suspect it very well may be a word she and her fellow spoilt, middle class white girlfriends in Bristol use in a cringeworthy jokey/affectionate way to each other. Unfortunately for her she happens to be on Big Brother and Charley happens to be black. That has made it easy for some to suggest that she had seen a black person and called them a nigger.

So you think "I call lots of people n*****s, even black people!" is an ok position to take?

I call lots of people cunts, even racist apologists on the Internet.

onimo, Friday, 8 June 2007 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

I think Emily is an idiot and that was an idiotic position for her to take.

DavidM, Friday, 8 June 2007 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

People in the office are watching this too far away for me to see, but loud enough to sort of hear. It sounds like a sort of constant squall. This may be a long evening.

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 8 June 2007 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Zippy to Charlie: "Just a bit of Racism. Let's be cool."

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 June 2007 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

There we go. I wondered how long it would be before they started painting Tracey's face.

I can't believe I missed Emilygate.

accentmonkey, Friday, 8 June 2007 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Dear Lesley

The twins are 18, not 8, a'ight? Please leave now.

Noodle

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 June 2007 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

I hate people who say "I apologise" instead of "I'm sorry".

accentmonkey, Friday, 8 June 2007 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't hear her say she was sorry at all. She used a lot of "it was wrong" like it was somebody else tho.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 June 2007 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Not her. Ziggy earlier when being confronted about the amount of alcohol he had taken. He just kept saying "I apologise".

accentmonkey, Friday, 8 June 2007 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Oh right. I missed the last half hour. Is Zippy even more boring when he's drunk then?

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 June 2007 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

omg, not only is Emily an evil racist, but she made them buy a TOTALLY UNNECESSARY pineapple! For £1.50!

Tracey's makeover just made her look that little bit more like a man in drag, sadly. Although Charley was - surprisingly - sweet to say that she still looked gorgeous without make-up even though she clearly didn't mean it.

Archel, Friday, 8 June 2007 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

Shabnam looks massively better without make-up tho.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 June 2007 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

Her blusher in the first few days was breaking Mrs Vague's heart.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 June 2007 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

yeah Ziggy didn't really help his case by slurring his words. But although I like Nicki she does have this irritating desire to be 'mature' and Sort Things Out constantly.

Archel, Friday, 8 June 2007 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

sorry to go back a few hours, but ...

Whichever, the difference between the 'N' word and the word Emily used is chasmic

what do you mean, david? really, seriously: what do you mean by that comment? i know you've kinda been called on this already, but let's do it all over again, because i don't think you've explained it at all and i guess i'm genuinely intrigued by what you're driving at.

it's about whether there are consequences for using casually racist language on television

most OTM thing on this thread. along with some of onimo and NV's swearing.

grimly fiendish, Friday, 8 June 2007 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

I hate people who say "I apologise" instead of "I'm sorry".

-- accentmonkey, Friday, 8 June 2007 20:27 (12 minutes ago) Link

Saying "I apologise" is basically a way of avoiding saying "I'm sorry", isn't it? Its basically, I'm not actually sorry, but I want to get out of this situation.

hobart paving, Friday, 8 June 2007 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

Did anyone hear Shabnam

"oh yeah, tadpole, I'd forgotten about that word"..?

I'm so glad she stayed in.

hobart paving, Friday, 8 June 2007 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

haha grimly that second quote is almost verbatim from a speech sharpton made after the imus thing, so - credit where credit is due

Tracer Hand, Friday, 8 June 2007 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

hahahah, really? fuck, i didn't realise that.

well, top-notch appropriation, anyway :)

grimly fiendish, Friday, 8 June 2007 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

it's the right sentiment for this kind of situation i think - demonization gets you nowhere

Tracer Hand, Friday, 8 June 2007 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

they should put CJ from eggheads in there

http://www.demooi.co.uk/images/CJ102.jpg

czn, Friday, 8 June 2007 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

i can't believe i once called davina mccall a "smart cookie"

Tracer Hand, Friday, 8 June 2007 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

it was even within earshot of people i consider my friends

Tracer Hand, Friday, 8 June 2007 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

anyway, besides that, made up tracey looked a little like davina (?!) I thought, a little

czn, Friday, 8 June 2007 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

The office has turned the volume up. I am now more lost than ever. Why is Davina yelling "whistle for A-Ha tee?"

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 8 June 2007 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

Russell Harty's going in.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 8 June 2007 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

Is it him or Bill Grundy that's dead? Or are both of them? I can't remember.

This may be the only time in my life that a Tampax ad indicates an improvement in proceedings.

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 8 June 2007 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

GERRY MUST GO

Dom Passantino, Friday, 8 June 2007 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

GREEK PEOPLE DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MUSLIMSAUTHORITY

Dom Passantino, Friday, 8 June 2007 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

Who is this fuckwit?

Dom Passantino, Friday, 8 June 2007 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

Is this one of Dirty Sanchez?

Dom Passantino, Friday, 8 June 2007 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

there's a british weird al yankovic???

Tracer Hand, Friday, 8 June 2007 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

Is that Colin Murray?

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 8 June 2007 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

"i wanna be a gourd"

Tracer Hand, Friday, 8 June 2007 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

SHAUNIE MUST GO

Dom Passantino, Friday, 8 June 2007 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

Seany and Gerry must go (though I suspect Gerry might actually be OK, maybe). Lolz at Shabnam introducing herself by explaining that she doesn't normally wear beige before actually doing any introduction.

ailsa, Friday, 8 June 2007 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

My God, where did they find that pair from? Yup, another fine representation of gay men on Big Brother. Please bring back Dan from BB5.

Gerry seems okay, if a little ahem..excitable. Shauny seems rather like too many other gay men I have met (err..but with records around his neck and a Michael Jackson fetish to boot). Plus, Shauny talks about himself in the third person. Shauny talking about Shauny made me want to take Shauny and lock him in a room with...well, I guess the punishment fits the crime.

Shabnam, though, gotta love it... "I'm not allowed to wear make up or nice, clothes".. no hello, then.

I wasn't supposed to be watching this this year.

hobart paving, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, what ailsa said..

hobart paving, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, aye, Seany refers to Seany in the third person --> Seany must go.

ailsa, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

Dan works at the end of our street, I can go and give him a shout tomorrow if you like.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

Gerry mightn't be too bad. Shawnee is going to be one of those "I'm hilarious me" dudes who has a massive strop in the first 48 hours and then sulks until they're evicted two weeks later.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

wish I were seeing

RJG, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

It was a bit like Midnight Cowboy if Jon Voight liked pies.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

Sho'nee in Doctor Who/McCoy getup WTF - 'WACKY' -shoot to kill.

actually he could be great 'I can read -rolls eyes'

Geordie Racer, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

hey ziggy - it ain't gonna be bitchy now, what with more men in.

Geordie Racer, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

A prediction:

Shornee will nominate Gerry
Gerry will possibly not nominate Shornee.

Well, one and a half predictions, then.

hobart paving, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

Ziggy cheering for "more men" and then realising he looked a bit gay - classic.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

shaunie: "you seem kinda - i don't know - are you okay??"
ziggy: "no i'm straight"
shaunie: "no i said are you OKAY?"

*
*

OMG IT'S THE GEORDIE RACER!!

Tracer Hand, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

It was a bit like Midnight Cowboy if Jon Voight liked pies.

-- Noodle Vague, Friday, June 8, 2007 10:13 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

The scene of Midnight Cowboy where Dustin is forced to sit in a big glowing chair while hordes of women scream at him, inexplicably unaware of his sexual proclivities?

hobart paving, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

That happens in the Warhol party bit!

Noodle Vague, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

I'm forced to sit in a big glowing chair while hordes of women scream at me, inexplicably unaware of my sexual proclivities here! I'm forced to sit in a big glowing chair while hordes of women scream at me, inexplicably unaware of my sexual proclivities here!

RJG, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

You think they deliberately put "I love Michael Jackson" and "I work with young people" right next to each other?

onimo, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

Russell Harty and Bill Grundy are both teh deader.

Mark G, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

Seany's been in a fillum and has met Hilary Clinton. Stealth CBB.

onimo, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

zig honestly looks like he's seen a ghost

Tracer Hand, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

Can we get Hilary Clinton in this winter? She'd be GREAT.

I think this series has been very biased towards human beings.
Idea for next contestant:

Introduce a carrot to the house and insist everyone calls it by it proper name. Allow it to nominate. I'd vote for it.

hobart paving, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

shaunie: "are ya enjoyin it?"
nicky: "am i drunk?"
shaunie: "no, i said are ya enjoyin it?"

Tracer Hand, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

Shawnee will be alright when it calms down a bit.

I could be wrong.

Mark G, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

Has everyone/anyone seen this?

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article1899408.ece

Is this the most "WTF?" Big Brother rumour ever??

Guilty_Boksen, Saturday, 9 June 2007 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

...the hell?

jed_, Saturday, 9 June 2007 01:43 (nineteen years ago)

omg please to be true

Ste, Saturday, 9 June 2007 01:50 (nineteen years ago)

can big brother rumours jump the shark?

but yeah, please please be true

Gukbe, Saturday, 9 June 2007 01:57 (nineteen years ago)

As someone who still has a place for Prince in her life, I would not like this to happen. :(

accentmonkey, Saturday, 9 June 2007 07:35 (nineteen years ago)

There have been so many rumors that haven't panned out, like <a href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2003230001-2007250876,00.html";>this one</a>. I wonder if maybe he was kidnapped and left for dead and everyone thinks he's entering the house. Oops!

I hate Lesley so much...I know the twins are very young but the way she was speaking to them, like 5 year olds, was ridiculous. And when Laura tried to enter the conversation and Lesley cut her right out of it? Classic. I've heard rumors that she's walking soon and I hope they are true.

musically, Saturday, 9 June 2007 07:47 (nineteen years ago)

That link didn't work...here it is again.

musically, Saturday, 9 June 2007 07:55 (nineteen years ago)

oh, it would just be for a one-off performance.

Frogman Henry, Saturday, 9 June 2007 07:56 (nineteen years ago)

Lesley is v crepey

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 9 June 2007 09:17 (nineteen years ago)

Lesley is v gone.

aldo, Saturday, 9 June 2007 09:33 (nineteen years ago)

Hoorah!

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 9 June 2007 09:36 (nineteen years ago)

gone, as in gone gone?

hobart paving, Saturday, 9 June 2007 09:36 (nineteen years ago)

RIP

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 9 June 2007 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

pour quoi?

That one guy that quit, Saturday, 9 June 2007 09:44 (nineteen years ago)

Misplaced intellectual snobbery.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 9 June 2007 09:46 (nineteen years ago)

Well, wouldn't you if Seany walked thru YOUR door

Tom D., Saturday, 9 June 2007 10:56 (nineteen years ago)

Was I bored? No, I wasn't fuckin' bored. I'm never bored. That's the trouble with everybody - you're all so bored. You've had nature explained to you and you're bored with it, you've had the living body explained to you and you're bored with it, you've had the universe explained to you and you're bored with it, so now you want cheap thrills and, like, plenty of them, and it doesn't matter how tawdry or vacuous they are as long as it's new as long as it's new as long as it flashes and fuckin' bleeps in forty fuckin' different colors. So whatever else you can say about me, I'm not fuckin' bored.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 9 June 2007 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

waht

g-kit, Saturday, 9 June 2007 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

I wish she had said that. Who did say it?

I think Gerry might win this.

hobart paving, Saturday, 9 June 2007 11:35 (nineteen years ago)

it's from Mike Leigh's Naked innit.

jed_, Saturday, 9 June 2007 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

ok ty

g-kit, Saturday, 9 June 2007 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

Nindie R4c1st seems to be back in Bristle, given that I almost literally bumped into her in the street a minute ago. She was kind of distracted by making sure nobody/everybody was looking at her, obviously.

Maybe round by us is where she meets people from other ethnic backgrounds. Who knows.

aldo, Saturday, 9 June 2007 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

THANK GOD you googleproofed R4c1st.

jed_, Saturday, 9 June 2007 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

I GOOGLED RACIST AND FOUND ILX

That one guy that quit, Saturday, 9 June 2007 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

done before i think

That one guy that quit, Saturday, 9 June 2007 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

I saw some of the live feed at around 07:15 this morning. Lesley was having a fairly deep and meaningful chat with thegreek guy.

Ah well, I was so unwarming to her. As were most people who liked her at first.

Mark G, Saturday, 9 June 2007 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Good riddance, really.

musically, Saturday, 9 June 2007 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

I can see this becoming Jungle Cats vs Lip Gloss Bitches but with no Jungle Cats :(

onimo, Saturday, 9 June 2007 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

v disappointed in lesley

RJG, Saturday, 9 June 2007 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

and prince

RJG, Saturday, 9 June 2007 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

Has Prince left the house?

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 9 June 2007 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

Insert appropriate Prince song lyrics

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 9 June 2007 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

"yr pokemons, sho them to me!"

Mark G, Saturday, 9 June 2007 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

"Hello! Weight loss!"

That entire diary room scene was gold. I'm saying that whenever we run out of food.

musically, Sunday, 10 June 2007 01:09 (nineteen years ago)

"That's disgusting!"
"What, weight loss?"
"No, chickpeas."

chap, Sunday, 10 June 2007 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

It's the way they both sit and grin at the camera when they've finished their little routine, so as to make it easy to edit them. Very smart.

accentmonkey, Sunday, 10 June 2007 07:04 (nineteen years ago)

hi dere. been out the country but the emily thing still made the int edition papers with lots of lovely condemnation editorials. has someone sent the postcard to j burchill "NOW PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP, K?"

Alan, Sunday, 10 June 2007 09:47 (nineteen years ago)

An ex-pupil of Emily Parr's Bristol school has told The Sun that the ejected housemate showed a lack of respect at Auschwitz.

The pupils had visited the Nazi concentration camp on a school trip and had been told to be quiet and respectful but Emily, she claimed, wanted to have a snowball fight with a lad she had just met.

She said: "All Emily wanted to do was have a snowball fight with some guy she’d just met. She has no respect for anyone — she couldn’t give two hoots. All she cares about is herself.”

The former schoolmate, who asked to be identified only as Katie, also insisted that Emily's racist remark was nothing new.

She told the newspaper that Emily often said things like "p**i and sooty" and described a situation in school when Emily pushed in front of a black girl in the dinner queue saying "Whites first".

The girl said she was speaking out because she was outraged by Emily's racist language on Big Brother.

Dom Passantino, Sunday, 10 June 2007 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

She is well gonna get beatings.

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 10 June 2007 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

woss burchill said?

That one guy that quit, Sunday, 10 June 2007 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

"squeak squeak SQUEAK!" i imagine.

grimly fiendish, Sunday, 10 June 2007 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

or, more accurately, "squeak squeak pointless offensiveness SQUEAK mock outrage squeak edgy offensiveness squawk".

grimly fiendish, Sunday, 10 June 2007 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

what was all this "get _____ out" when this new guy came in? were they really shouting "charley out"? i think that charley has some way to go in this series in terms of journey - she could be this years aisleyne - besides, they're not supposed to talk about anything outside the house so i can't see why he should get away with discussing what was being shouted.

quite amusing that Laura has gone from top favourite to very long odds in a week: that's what lying in bed 18 hours a day will do for you. lazy cunt.

seanie is a bit of a diddy. gerry is ok at times but listening to his voice is like nails on a blackboard to me. ugh.

jed_, Sunday, 10 June 2007 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

quite amusing that Laura has gone from top favourite to very long odds in a week: that's what lying in bed 18 hours a day will do for you. lazy cunt.

In fairness to Laura, the one time I saw her try to cook a meal, she was descended upon by Shabnam and Emily and Lesley who all wanted to "help" but in fact just wanted to twitter around and get in her way. That would put me off doing anything till the house calmed down a bit.

accentmonkey, Sunday, 10 June 2007 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

Laura's a sleeper in betting terms. If she's long odds now, that might be a bargain.

Mark G, Sunday, 10 June 2007 23:11 (nineteen years ago)

Shabnam's 33 to one. That's also a bargain.

Laura's not exactly long odds, 12 to one, but then that's also fairly good odds.

Mark G, Sunday, 10 June 2007 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

i've not seen so much as a second of this since the two new blokes went in. (indeed, i don't think i've seen so much as half an hour in total since the whole thing began.) i assume from the lack of frenzied discussion here that they're astonishingly dull?

grimly fiendish, Sunday, 10 June 2007 23:43 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, it's the weekend and Big Brother isn't on the TV as much as it used to be over the weekend.

Mark G, Sunday, 10 June 2007 23:53 (nineteen years ago)

small mercies :)

grimly fiendish, Sunday, 10 June 2007 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

i think that charley has some way to go in this series in terms of journey - she could be this years aisleyne

Except that Aisleyne, for all her front at the start, was obviously actually quite nice all along - plus she was a champion against an established atmosphere of bitchiness. I agree that Charley will probably undergo Personal Growth in the house and become a lot more likable, but I don't think the two are particularly analogous.

chap, Sunday, 10 June 2007 23:56 (nineteen years ago)

laura got on my nerves tonight.

new housemates aren't as horrible as i thought when they came in, but then again, so much happened in the two days i couldn't get much of an idea.

seany's muslim experience was interesting.

twins to win, as they're not featured enough to be annoying, but when they are, they are very amusing. and kinda weird.

Gukbe, Monday, 11 June 2007 04:12 (nineteen years ago)

Laura has been getting on my nerves lately as well...she talks much too much, and reminds me of a little kid. In today's ep when she kept going on about what Seany heard outside, or insisting that she told Seany not to pull the duvet when everyone was talking about it.

Were the new housemates told about Emily?

I think the twins are sleeper hits...but at the same time I think those in the house aren't bonding with them as much as they are bonding with others, so perhaps later in the game they might get put up.

musically, Monday, 11 June 2007 05:21 (nineteen years ago)

i agree with gerry that shaunie doesn't seem gay, at all

of course he doesn't seem very muslim, either

Tracer Hand, Monday, 11 June 2007 08:58 (nineteen years ago)

Gay for two years now, apparently.

No, the moslem thing was interesting as he described it.

Mark G, Monday, 11 June 2007 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

i hate that he called girls aloud a "guilty pleasure"

Tracer Hand, Monday, 11 June 2007 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

why? Isn't that a term defined in the oxford dictionary by now?

Mark G, Monday, 11 June 2007 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

if it's defined in the oed i can't hate it?

Tracer Hand, Monday, 11 June 2007 09:17 (nineteen years ago)

(sorry, the questions were not meant to be linked in my sentence)

Mark G, Monday, 11 June 2007 09:19 (nineteen years ago)

"usage: rarely with sincerity, but in these cases only by rockists"

Tracer Hand, Monday, 11 June 2007 09:20 (nineteen years ago)

just watched fri prog

so funny. seany (don't think anyone here has spelt his name properly, yet, incl. me) kind of has a voice like mickey mouse or...michael jackson! at times. also, he actually needs to stop saying "actually" so frequently. seen gerry thinking he is making funny jokes when he is making bad jokes, already. shabnam w/ her ridiculous make-up disclaimer welcome

RJG, Monday, 11 June 2007 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm.

Charlie trying to be popular w/ the viewing public, by slagging off chanelle w/ Shabnam?

Mark G, Monday, 11 June 2007 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

charley just about the only housemate that's delivering on any level.

jed_, Monday, 11 June 2007 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

just rewatched the immediate aftermath of emily's racism and it is really pretty incredible viewing. you couldn't make it up!

RJG, Monday, 11 June 2007 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

If Charley goes I will be absolutely gutted. I agree w/ her and Shabs...watching a show with just the twins and Ziggy and the new guys would be a snoozefest.

What's with Carole never able to participate in meetings? Every time there's a house meeting she gets up and claims she can't deal with it.

musically, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 06:09 (nineteen years ago)

lack of respect

RJG, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 06:33 (nineteen years ago)

SATAN'S PISS

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 06:51 (nineteen years ago)

If Charley goes I will be absolutely gutted. I agree w/ her and Shabs...watching a show with just the twins and Ziggy and the new guys would be a snoozefest.

Yes, but the alternative to what Shabs and Charley consider to be boring TV is watching those two bitch about it and smoke a lot while claiming to be entertaining.

onimo, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 08:19 (nineteen years ago)

OK, I'm now going to be madly controversial.

I reckon Seany ftw!

Seeing as how "any other contestant" is the favourite, betting-wise, he seems to be the only one with potential!

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 08:24 (nineteen years ago)

Sam is 10 to 1, Amanda is 14 to 1

What exactly is the difference between them?

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 08:26 (nineteen years ago)

(OK, "four" arf)

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 08:26 (nineteen years ago)

sam is better than amanda

RJG, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 08:31 (nineteen years ago)

In what way?

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

it's waaaay to early to predict winners (i still think nicky has a shot) since we only have only seen about 1/3 - 1/2 of the eventual housemates.

That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 09:27 (nineteen years ago)

Satan's piss.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 09:33 (nineteen years ago)

Anyroad, so after the 'interview' process (which was quite funny), Sean and Gerry have picked the twins to nominate alongside themselves.

So, where will this go? Apparently, Charlie was being best pally with the twins in a naked (metaphorically) attempt to curry favour. Which set Chanelle off on one.

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 09:46 (nineteen years ago)

I'm really excited to see a Twins nominate. Who would a Twin hate? It will be the most intimate look at the psychology of a Twins we've yet had. Surely they'll both nominate the same peoples, but who? (Guess: Charley and Shabnab.)

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 09:50 (nineteen years ago)

Will they nominate seperately?

I haven't seen much of this series, on the odd occasion I have caught bits of it the twins were always together. Have they done anything seperately yet?

*rumpie*, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 09:53 (nineteen years ago)

I think they poo separately.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, now I've caught up with some of the the weekend stuff: SEANY MUST GO!

I've taken an instant dislike to this twit. He seems like (another) one of those Colin Hunt-style forced-wacky characters. A self-appointed 'life-and-soul-of-a-party', who will turn nasty when someone doesn't want to join in, play it his way, or won't get the 'joke' that will be played on them. He's a fun bully.

I liked Laura when she first spotted him: "It's clown! It's a clown!"

Gerry seems alright. It's early days though. But he earns a point for his pronunciation of the word 'octopus'.

omg Charley is unbelievable. I love it. What makes her less monstorous than she should be is the fact that her main targets (ie Ziggy and Chanelle) are really unlikeable to begin with, so I end up cheering her on a bit.
BB8 without Charley would be like 101 Dalmations without Cruella de Ville.

DavidM, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 09:55 (nineteen years ago)

The Ziggy/Chanelle "lovefest" seems to be annoying the housemates in general, but the nominaters don't seem to be amongst those that are bothered.

So, my guess is also Shab/Charl

And there'll be mass booing of both come Friday.

Charlie will be first out, and Shabnam will probably walk to avoid a similar hatorade eviction.

xpost poo: I wouln't bet on it.

xxpost: Yeah, but any kind of bitching within house gets max votes against.

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

Seány is a fool.

Ronan, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 09:59 (nineteen years ago)

DavidM in rare OTM shockah re: Charley vs Zippy

I remembered (Naomi reminded me) last night how clever Gerry is. Probably way more educated than Lesley, but he's completely uncondescending and open and grebt. I am a little in love. Now can you permanently subtitle him please Endemol?

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 09:59 (nineteen years ago)

ooh I forgot maybe Twins will nominate Laura as she is a mardy lazy git.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

what does educated mean?

RJG, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

It means you've studied stuff and reflected on it and maybe increased your knowledge of the world and stuff. Would you like a link to a dictionary?

Lesley seemed to think she was culturally all that, but I never saw an iota of evidence to back it up.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 10:03 (nineteen years ago)

give me a link to a dictionary

RJG, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 10:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.vnutz.com/content/cursing_dictionary

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 10:18 (nineteen years ago)

Anybody else seen what's going on right now - they're all dressed in sardine costumes and lying down in a giant sardine tin. I can't see what the objective is, but it's bloody surreal.

DavidM, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 10:51 (nineteen years ago)

Charlie will be first out, and Shabnam will probably walk to avoid a similar hatorade eviction.

I think that if Shabz survives a head to head with Charley she'll think she's popular with teh GBP and will stay in for teh win and better DEALS.

onimo, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

so will charley, shabnam and nicky become a new separate splinter group? or was charley just trying to draw the lines?

its weird how the two new guys seem to have blended in so well. i quite like both of them. gerry seems quite interesting. kinda picking up from where lesley left off. ziggy is turning into a complete sap. and a self pitying one as well. its funny how he makes these declarations of his affection to chanelle but she barely says a thing back.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

so carole, shabnam, and tracey up?

Gukbe, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

shabnam is truly bonkers - i would be sad to see her go

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

tracey is also truly bonkers but in a more depressing way

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

Being an E casualty /= bonkers

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

Considering we knew from about two days in last year that Pete was the absolute nailed-on winner, it's kind of refreshing to think that none of them lolk like potential winners so far. Chanelle's probably the closest right now. Plus I still like her, unlike most of the others I warmed to at the start (eg rubbish Laura).

There's still AT LEAST five or six new housemates to go in so anything could happen really. But it probably won't.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

i'm pretty sure Lesley was the first person to ever mention elizabeth frink on BB

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

Ziggy and Chanelle are an "item" then? I haven't seen this since about Thursday...

Chris in Belfast, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

Gerry OTM re Tracey. Her sole contribution to the house is to shout "deal with it" whenever someone has a problem with something, and that's it. "Ave it!" Ave WHAT?

DavidM, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

Chanelle is useless, are you sure you don't just like her cos you fancy empty blondes Matt?

I like Nicky best still.

Ronan, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

almost as clever as lesley's "a faaat feeling? ho ho so is there such a thing as a thiiiiin feeling?" four minutes after she first wanted to make a joke and two minutes after tracey had tried to explain the concept of "phat" to her

crosspost

RJG, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

Nicky is the only payed-up member of the human race.

chap, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

wonder why she did that. sounds a bit extreme

RJG, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

Nicky is clearly very nice but also far too sensible and self-aware to make a good Big Brother contestant. Also she's a bit kind of hectoring and boring. Also Chanelle is the only housemate that is even remotely funny.

Also I fancy empty brunettes, get it right.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway Tracey and Carole have proved to be hugely disappointing housemates so I hope to god Shabnam stays on Friday.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

I think nicky is good and has been funny w/ remarks, here and there. I like chanelle, too, and think, more than funny, as I said, before, she is the most capable of being fun. not that she always is but sometimes compared to almost never w/ most of the rest

RJG, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

Nicky is clearly very nice but also far too sensible and self-aware to make a good Big Brother contestant.

Yes, she has third place written all over her.

chap, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

Shabnam was just on Britain's Got Talent. She didn't seem to have decided what her talent was though.

V, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

entertainment

RJG, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

I hope that Shabs stays...of the three nominated she's the only remotely interesting one. If Carole goes, imagine the havoc in the house once they lose the primary housekeeper! And Tracey really adds nothing to the house, and I wouldn't be sad to see her go.

Question: during eviction night, do you vote for someone to leave, or for the one you want to stay?

Yes, but the alternative to what Shabs and Charley consider to be boring TV is watching those two bitch about it and smoke a lot while claiming to be entertaining.

On their own they aren't particularly compelling, but they provide a completely necessary counterpoint to the main group. I just hope the house first loses the more peripheral players before it loses the troublemakers.

musically, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 06:33 (nineteen years ago)

Viewers of Tuesday's Britain's Got Talent show on ITV1 were shown footage of Shabnam's unsuccessful audition from earlier this year.

What did she do? Any good?

Oh ad she's 'odds on' to go, according to the bookies.

Why? She's not done anything particularly hateworthy?

Mark G, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 10:14 (nineteen years ago)

Oh god no. Shabs is rofflicious. Trac(e)y must go!!

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 10:16 (nineteen years ago)

I would have thought Tracey would be odds on. The "avin it' girl that never joins in with anything. the 'avin a larf' that keeps away from owt else.

Still, Shabman looks in a mirror, so she must GOE!!!

Mark G, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 10:19 (nineteen years ago)

There must be an awful lot of crusty-ravers still out there.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 10:22 (nineteen years ago)

Tracey reminds me too much of people I know in real life, who just sit around and complain about how "the Man" is fucking with everyone and keeping them down and are impossible to talk to or relate to in any way if you didn't know them when they used to go clubbing a lot. I admire any 36-year-old woman who goes on telly with no makeup on, but that's as far as my liking for her goes.

It's weird how, for all that Charley and Shabnam annoy me, they just don't seem capable of the kind of incredible mindless cruelty to other people that so put me off BB in the Jungle Cats/Lipgloss Bitches house. But I suppose it's early days.

I have also gone off Laura, and am really warming to the double act of Gerry and Seany.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 10:35 (nineteen years ago)

Tracey is five to one! i.e. favourite to win (in some places it's gerry)

how come?

Mark G, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

coz she's avin it large no shit no fake phat as phuck deal with it

onimo, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 10:53 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. I've been avoiding this thread because I thought it'd be too long to keep up with! Dull year so far. More guns and drugs, that's what's needed.

kv_nol, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

What did she do? Any good?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGqujGMW9iU

V, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

haha, that is quite something. her dance moves are unbelievable.

jed_, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/1044360

Who do you want evicted on Friday?


Carole Vincent 17%
Shabnam Paryani 74%
Tracey Barnard 9%

Crazy!

Mark G, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

Why is this crazy? It is utterly predictable going on the voting patterns of, erm, every previous Big Brother.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

jesus, shabnam is deluded

Ronan, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

Therein lies the comedy.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

just saw seany removing lesley's duvet. what a horrible cunt. even if he was shut up for three weeks and even if he was drunk and even if he didn't know lesley (like that makes it more rather than less excusable). of course, the real cunt, again, is shabnam--she egged him on ("you've got to do it") even though she DID know lesley and what she was like, etc, and, even better, the next day, said she knew lesley was finding it hard and would cry at night. the talent contest youtube link is terrible and funny

seany is v rubbish, though

RJG, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

What this house needs right now is for Channel Four to have psychologically profiled each housemate to such an extent that they are able to perfectly isolate the twins' ideal man and put him in there on Friday for them to fight over.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

Barney the Dinosaur is otherwise engaged.

Mark G, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

I can FIX it phwoar etc etc

kv_nol, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

What did she do? Any good?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGqujGMW9iU

-- V, Wednesday, June 13, 2007 11:27 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Sweet Fancy Moses...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xi4O1yi6b0

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that is a classic.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

People who want to be famous despite having no discernible talent = classic

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

"I think I can act"

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

is actual BB worth watching yet?

g-kit, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/36/Yosser_hughes.JPG/240px-Yosser_hughes.JPG

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

Yeah defnitely. It's gentle comedy.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

I can't believe they've reached the separate shopping lists stage already.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

seany speaks so funny. puts emphasis on a lot of different bits. like when he and gerry were leaving the diaryroom, the first time, and he said "actually, I think you should push the door" but emphasised every other word or something. also, after they revealed the voting rules for this week, when he said "okay, where's the alcohol?" and he sounded like michael jackson

RJG, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

seany is a horrible bastard underneath a mask of even worse jokes/wackiness.

Ronan, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

a friend of mine was telling me seanie was already in a reality TV show where two groups of teenagers/early 20s (i think) from the north and south of ireland went off and lived in a rural cottage or something? i can't remember this, thankfully.

jed_, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

Seany = Father Noel Furlong

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha. so many outfits.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

I don't see Shonny as particularly wacky, or as trying to be so.

OMG Charley STFU! Or at least slow the fuck down. It's like Vicki Pollard on speed.

Charley to Nicky: You got no game Nicky, you're moody!
Nicky to Chanelle: Charley says I'm moody and I've got no game...
Charley to Nicky: You fucking liar!

onimo, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

My friend works on Big Brother and keeps on nagging to turn up to one of the shows -- whichever I like! In previous years, I would\'ve gone to BBBM to watch Russell Brand, and had I known Alexa was on this week I might\'ve chosen that too. But too late! What would be the least boring BB thing to watch in person & might there even be something interesting? I could go to the eviction thing, but that\'s always the most tedious episode of the week for me.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 14 June 2007 02:44 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, what was Charley on about? The funniest part of the fight was the look of horror on the twins faces...they are truly useless, aren't they.

I'd go to BBLB, it seems a bit more interesting than BBBM. And it has Dermot!

musically, Thursday, 14 June 2007 07:01 (nineteen years ago)

and less of an audience. You aren't expected to be a crowd so much.

Mark G, Thursday, 14 June 2007 07:36 (nineteen years ago)

Hahaha 'I've got all of the outfits... no one can beat me.'

Archel, Thursday, 14 June 2007 07:43 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really like Tracey but kind of want her to stay in a bit longer as a counterpoint to the girliness. Carole hasn't lived up to her promise yet and is still basically likeable so must stay. Shabnam - I just don't see ANYTHING entertaining about her. On the other hand she might be less annoying inside the house than outside getting 'deals'.

Archel, Thursday, 14 June 2007 07:47 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, the one bit I'd love about her going on friday would be:

"Here are your highlights!" and there's the bit from "Britain's got talent"

Mark G, Thursday, 14 June 2007 07:54 (nineteen years ago)

laura is the only one I think I would entirely not miss

don't know who I hope goes, this week

RJG, Thursday, 14 June 2007 08:03 (nineteen years ago)

Carole looks really fed up at the moment and might even walk.

Kudos to Lesley for accusing Charley of "playing the race card" on BBLB. What a shame she left, perhaps she could have said it to her face.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 14 June 2007 10:25 (nineteen years ago)

wasn't it great when lesley was packing her bag and charley passed her and stroked her arm and lesley whispered to herself "don't touch me"? I doubt she would have said much to anyone's face except the stuff she did say again and again and again

RJG, Thursday, 14 June 2007 10:28 (nineteen years ago)

I see, it's get rid of the oldies first

Tom D., Thursday, 14 June 2007 10:29 (nineteen years ago)

I was semi-ambivalent towards Lesley until those last 2 or 3 days in the house when she just couldn't help herself any more and became deeply unpleasant. I can't think of one instance of Charley "playing the race card" - quite the opposite, with the whole Emily thing. I am quite judgemental about people who use that phrase tho.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 14 June 2007 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

it's a shame, in a way, that lesley chose to leave but she did choose to leave. it's also a shame that they chose to put in an oldie who mostly just reminded everyone that she was an oldie

RJG, Thursday, 14 June 2007 10:33 (nineteen years ago)

show needs a Peter Cook/E.L.Wisty character who only sits in the living room going "I... am an oldie!"

Mark G, Thursday, 14 June 2007 10:36 (nineteen years ago)

write them a letter

RJG, Thursday, 14 June 2007 10:38 (nineteen years ago)

git!

Mark G, Thursday, 14 June 2007 10:38 (nineteen years ago)

I am just catching up with last night's show now. Fucking Carole. Whingeing and moaning about having to do the task or sit near fish, and then telling Ziggy afterwards about how resilient she is and about the Native American rituals she's been on.

I had such high hopes for her, too.

accentmonkey, Thursday, 14 June 2007 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

This lot are so shit at tasks that I fear the whole series will be all about food rations. We need a load of easy tasks and lashings of booze.

onimo, Thursday, 14 June 2007 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

The fish thing: once you've been stinking of fish for an hour you're not really going to stink any more are you? So just stay in the fucking tin until you win booze!

onimo, Thursday, 14 June 2007 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

I think they were cold.

accentmonkey, Thursday, 14 June 2007 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

did we see the wangers yet

g-kit, Thursday, 14 June 2007 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

in carole's intro tape she said something about giving people a hard time if they don't get into/try their best w/ the tasks

RJG, Thursday, 14 June 2007 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

g-kit there's a Wanger Watch thread on Digital Spy (probably).

onimo, Thursday, 14 June 2007 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

Endemol always set the easiness of the tasks as it suits. They feed them at will, basically. At the moment they're getting a lot of mileage from the food fights so they gave them a task they knew they'd never complete. I don't know why the housemates don't call their bluff and eat everything all at once. Even BB wouldn't allow actual starvation, it's probly covered by Health and Safety or something.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 14 June 2007 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

LOL @ Charley, "hanging with the cool kids at the Lewisham McDonalds".

Matt DC, Thursday, 14 June 2007 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Poor Charley. I think she may be the most deluded person I have ever seen.

Venga, Thursday, 14 June 2007 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

Not as good as hanging with the cool kids on Planet Zog.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

I was wrong about Nicky, she was great television today. Also I think Carole may have saved herself right at the end there.

Laura must go, at the first available opportunity. She is terrible.

Matt DC, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

4 new straight men going in tomorrow according to Big Mouth

V, Thursday, 14 June 2007 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

I think Nicky is going to win this.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 14 June 2007 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

lol at Nicky telling the twins how to cook and then telling Carole to leave them alone. She probably needs to loosen up a bit.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 14 June 2007 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

Carole at the end! We were sat for that last five minutes going 'oh no Carole come on it wasn't meant to be like this you seemed so jolly at first oh no come on yer meant to be the fun aunty', gutted at her being a big misery, then sheer joy when she made that mad noise and started chasing them and did a double hi-5 with Ziggy. It's not like she was sat there thinking 'Right I'll pretend to be a grouch and then at the last minute reveal that I'm only messing', what was it that made her cheer up and do that?

Nicky is just dreadful, so so so draining, refusing to let arguments go and then flips out when someone has a dig at her - her spat at Carole was totally unnecessary. Charley is far and away the most relentlessly unpleasant housemate I can remember right now. If she was kicked out tomorrow I'm certain there'd be a massive positive change in the atmosphere in there.

NI, Thursday, 14 June 2007 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

Personally I think Charley would have been eaten alive in some previous houses (2005 OMG). Despite the non-stop arguing, this is one of the tamest houses there's been in years. This could change with four new blokes put in there though.

Matt DC, Thursday, 14 June 2007 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

Okay maybe not eaten alive, but certainly not able to dominate in the way she has.

Matt DC, Thursday, 14 June 2007 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

I can't imagine anyone from 2005 being able to shut Charley up. Maybe Kemal could have hit her with some bitchy one-liners but I doubt it'd do much to dent her.

Her debating technique is the absolute pits: shout, shout faster, shout LOUDLY to drown out the other person, begin talking to herself about how she has been wronged, gets herself more riled, shouts LOUDER, stands up, flails limbs to suggest violence imminent, shove off bystanders trying to calm her down with WHY IS EVERYONE ALWAYS PICKING ON ME, repeat to fade..

In the 'what would you do for £10m' she said she has enough money so she wouldn't need it, but what does she do? When she came in the house it billed her as 'unemployed' but it's unlikely she gets by on £60/wk JSA - are her family rich? Does the premiership's most rubbishly rubbish footballer pay her way?

Her non-zing against Gerry's admittedly pissweak 'for £10m I would enter a house full of strangers on tv' was straight out of primary school. She's fascinating to watch in a oh-my-fucking-god-i'm-glad-i-don't-know-anyone-like-her way but does anyone out there think she's anything but an absolute horror?

She seems to be taking her cues from Nikki 2006 at some points in the diary room, over-egging her tantrums but stopping short when she realises she sounds too much like her (I swear she was about to go 'who is SHE, who IS she' recently). Charley's behaviour = Nikki's legacy, without the humour/cuteness? (Nikki on BBLB the other night, sneezing while interviewing a WI lady had me giggling for aaaages)

NI, Thursday, 14 June 2007 23:55 (nineteen years ago)

I can't imagine anyone from 2005 being able to shut Charley up.

Science, Derek, Makosi, Kemal for starters.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 14 June 2007 23:58 (nineteen years ago)

Science maybe, Derek no chance, Makosi no, Kemal see above.

NI, Thursday, 14 June 2007 23:59 (nineteen years ago)

D & M's well-spoken/manipulative ways wouldn't mean shit put against Charley having a screaming fit. Sure, moral highground would be theirs but there's no way they'd silence Charley.

NI, Friday, 15 June 2007 00:02 (nineteen years ago)

So it seems, shabnam to be the obvious one to go tonight.

What is the betting on "Oh, she seemed alright really" type reaction to her Davina inerview?

Mark G, Friday, 15 June 2007 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know why the housemates don't call their bluff and eat everything all at once.

This has already happened! It must have been in the second week or something, but they got through their initial rations too fast and BB had to deliver them a mid-week top-up.

Yeah, I think Carole redeemed herself at the death last night, but why is Tracey so popular? Some think she deserves to win ffs.

Nicky needs to BACK OFF and stop being a bossy boots around the kitchen. Though she took the pork pie injustice with relatively good humour. In the end.

Charley in full-on row mode is an extrordinary thing. It's a wonder how her brain can process speech so unbelievably quickly.

Chanelle will grow up to be Hilda Baker.

DavidM, Friday, 15 June 2007 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

the death last night

Wha?

chap, Friday, 15 June 2007 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

it isn't really speech processing but speech emitting

carole so bad w/ sardine task before it even began. 4h20m was ridiculous, though. carole, after, telling ziggy how resiliant she is what a bore

RJG, Friday, 15 June 2007 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

it isn't really speech processing but speech emitting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossolalia

Coming soon: Stigmata!

onimo, Friday, 15 June 2007 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

if only they'd put a nail through jesus's just kidding

RJG, Friday, 15 June 2007 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Charley isn't unintelligible though, that's the thing. What she rattles out is bollocks, but it's clear.

DavidM, Friday, 15 June 2007 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Not to me it isn't, not all the time anyway.

onimo, Friday, 15 June 2007 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

There's nothing I hate more than that "why has everyone else got such a problem" mentality. And she's such a liar! I'm not even sure she's good TV value anymore. She makes me angry, like Cindy from Eastenders used to.

accentmonkey, Friday, 15 June 2007 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Although I definitely dislike Shabnam more. No, wait, Charley. No, Shabnam.

I am the only one who sits in watching this on Friday night.

accentmonkey, Friday, 15 June 2007 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

I'm watching it, but I'm going to go to London's Trendy Shoreditch afterwards, so I guess I'm still a bit cool.

Anyway Shabnam=a fucking mess.

chap, Friday, 15 June 2007 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

I hate Billy. they should institute a 'no models' rule next year.

chap, Friday, 15 June 2007 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

I think Jonathan might be secretly alright.

chap, Friday, 15 June 2007 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

I'm watching it, but I'm going to go to London's Trendy Shoreditch afterwards, so I guess I'm still a bit cool.

Well, get you.

I'm going to watch Eight Out of Ten Cats, AND Last Comic Standing. And drink more booze.

Billi's a tosser. I hate him already. Maybe they could punt him back out again with Shabnam. I think it would be great if they offered one of the evictees £10,000 to take someone else with them some night.

accentmonkey, Friday, 15 June 2007 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

will have to wait 'til tomorrow to see tonight's

carole was funny, last night, in the end, w/ the "alright, guys, I think that's enou...nyayayayah", but she still moans too much, although, nickie going off on one, when chanelle and the twins were making dinner, was really stupid

another ridiculous was charley "I don't need the money"/"I have plenty at home"/"I don't care about winning" and ziggy "so, you're rich?" and charley "why are you picking on me?"

charely really bad w/ "I hate nickie" and "nickie went crazy at chanelle and said 'you eat too much'" lie to ziggy--then going too far w/ comforting nickie w/ hugs and kisses in the bedroom and saying "let's go out, looks like ziggy's going to want to do the whole shopping list himself as usual"

shabnam is so repulsive and gets uglier, each day

fucking hate laura, too

RJG, Friday, 15 June 2007 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

Liam and Brian both seem quite sweet (though Brain looks about 35!). Ziggy's so going to get sidelined.

chap, Friday, 15 June 2007 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

You are being polite to Brian, when he said 19 I misheard it as 90 and nearly believed it. He could have passed for late 50s in his video, no questions asked.

Anyway, Charley seems to fancy "all" the blokes who have gone in, based on a barely verbal (in terms of frequency) conversation she had with the twins.

aldo, Friday, 15 June 2007 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Also by the fact that she wrapped herself around Brian and tried to drag him to the floor.

accentmonkey, Friday, 15 June 2007 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

And the twins looked right chuffed with Liam, as Davina pointed out. Will this year see the first ever twin-on-twin snowballing action in the house?

chap, Friday, 15 June 2007 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

sounds like it's time you were off to shoreditch

RJG, Friday, 15 June 2007 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

Just leaving, squire. I may return for drunken posting.

chap, Friday, 15 June 2007 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

You are being polite to Brian, when he said 19 I misheard it as 90 and nearly believed it. He could have passed for late 50s in his video, no questions asked.

oh so OTM - i though the same thing. also is it offensive to say he seems a bit retarded?

jed_, Friday, 15 June 2007 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, I thought he was quite sweet. And he is only 19 and lives at home with his Mam.

This is the thing I find amazing about young 'uns. For them, they get their first job and they live at home and kick in a bit of rent and have loads of flash gear. For me, having money meant getting the hell out of my parents house as fast as possible, even if I was then broke 90 percent of the time.

accentmonkey, Friday, 15 June 2007 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not saying it's better, I'm just saying.

accentmonkey, Friday, 15 June 2007 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

is it offensive to say he seems a bit retarded?

Not if you're from Bristol, according to Emily (and how many jokes has that spawned during the week?) so I'll say it: he seems a bit retarded.

aldo, Friday, 15 June 2007 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

What a fucking idiot. Brian's already broken the "don't talk about outside" rule.

accentmonkey, Friday, 15 June 2007 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

JESUS! Get out woman!

accentmonkey, Friday, 15 June 2007 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

OK, her on the gantry trying to drum up support for herself is possibly the most uncomfortable BB moment ever.

aldo, Friday, 15 June 2007 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

That was an exceptionally uncomfortable interview as well. Davina possibly bitchier than ever before.

aldo, Friday, 15 June 2007 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

I couldn't watch. I found the bit with her on the gantry so uncomfortable that I switched over to something else. Squirmy.

accentmonkey, Friday, 15 June 2007 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

She had a slightly wild look in her eyes, like at any moment it could all go a bit King of Comedy. We haven't heard the last of Shabz. Unless we don't stay up to watch those phone-in quizzes on ITV.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 15 June 2007 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

"Now why'd you wanna go and put stars in their eyes" lol

Shabz had a BLAST I tell you, a BLAST! Did I mention BLAST? It was a BLAST!

She wants to "play" Las Vegas - I assume she means the 25c bandits.

onimo, Friday, 15 June 2007 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

She wants to play Les Vegas in a musical version of kids TV show Fully Booked.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 15 June 2007 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

Was she likeable in the interview?

I thought she came over alright. I didn't see the 'walk', and I still don't understand the hate.

Ah well, there's a geordie 22 y/o tree surgeon now in, so the winner is now bleedin' obvious.

Mark G, Friday, 15 June 2007 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and walking down the stairs shouting "Who the bleedin ell is Charlie????"

That made her feel secure.

Oh, and BBBM... she's very cute but she can't do this prog.

Mark G, Friday, 15 June 2007 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

you should watch this programme

RJG, Friday, 15 June 2007 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

That pisstake TV presenter showreel that BB made for Shabnam, showing her walking around and describing the BB house, was geniunely no worse than Davina's similar attempt on the very first programme. So they can stick that up their arse for a kick off.

OMG Charley is all over Brian already! I just saw her slap his arse as they came out the diary room together. And Brian is one of those who says fackin every third fackin word. Faaaakin 'ell.

Liam: Auf Wiedersehen Pet's Oz - the younger years.

DavidM, Friday, 15 June 2007 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

damn, i wanted to be the frst to say LIAM FOR THE WIN.

jed_, Saturday, 16 June 2007 00:08 (eighteen years ago)

Is this the last housemate addition? Maybe one more? I haven't seen enough of the new housemates to make a judgment, but I really like Gerry and Nicky. Brian seems like fun but I cannot understand anything he says.

musically, Saturday, 16 June 2007 06:03 (eighteen years ago)

And it's funny that Nicky complains a lot, but not at times you'd expect it...she didn't complain much (except to BB) about doing the windows, and when they had to rank themselves based on attractiveness and she was below Tracey she didn't seem to put up a fuss.

musically, Saturday, 16 June 2007 06:06 (eighteen years ago)

update: Charley has been all over Liam. In fact she had the def HOTS for him in the pool last night.

DavidM, Saturday, 16 June 2007 09:12 (eighteen years ago)

I watched the C4 show last night. Too many peoples! I can't commit to this yet. I'll try again in a few weeks :(

g-kit, Saturday, 16 June 2007 09:15 (eighteen years ago)

It feels like it's just getting started now. On first impressions, Brian is this year's Glyn, totally loveable. (Until he does something annoying on Sunday and I start calling for his head.)

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 16 June 2007 09:30 (eighteen years ago)

brian looks at least 29.

titchyschneiderMk2, Saturday, 16 June 2007 11:31 (eighteen years ago)

that's racist

g-kit, Saturday, 16 June 2007 11:32 (eighteen years ago)

OK. Just watching Shabnam's eviction on Channel 4, OMG OMG OMG such delusion. Cringeworthy telly of the highest order.

Best bit of the highlights show = Shabnam doing her singing out the back garden, screeching "no matter what they take from me, they can't take away my dignity"...um, yes dear.

Liam looks like Sid Owen.

ailsa, Saturday, 16 June 2007 11:33 (eighteen years ago)

for some reason i'm still reading this thread despite the fact i've no idea who any of the new people (from seany and gerry on) actually are. it's oddly fun that way.

grimly fiendish, Saturday, 16 June 2007 11:37 (eighteen years ago)

Gerry's nice. Seany seems a bit of a tit. No real opinion on the rest of them yet.

ailsa, Saturday, 16 June 2007 11:45 (eighteen years ago)

Jonathan has Dracula eyebrows.

DavidM, Saturday, 16 June 2007 12:21 (eighteen years ago)

(Grimly, I've meant to ask for a while, or at least since I read Albion, is your login name a tribute to this guy?

kv_nol, Saturday, 16 June 2007 12:44 (eighteen years ago)

no! i didn't actually know about him until this thread.

and nor is it after the damned song. it's actually -- well, you can read it in the other thread, rather than have me derailing this one :)

grimly fiendish, Saturday, 16 June 2007 12:54 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha! Ach well now I know. Cheers.

kv_nol, Saturday, 16 June 2007 13:17 (eighteen years ago)

"that's racist"

more age-ist really.

titchyschneiderMk2, Saturday, 16 June 2007 13:34 (eighteen years ago)

I like Seany! Usual disclaimers apply.

accentmonkey, Saturday, 16 June 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

billi - weird annoying
liam - blokey annoying
jonathan - businessman annoying
brian - sounds like blakey from on the buses annoying

RJG, Saturday, 16 June 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

I just watched the new entrances on YouTube with both Jonathan and Brian I thought 'oh you're going to be good value'.

I'm fairly sure Jonathan v Charley has already happened but if not it can't be far off.

Matt DC, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:03 (eighteen years ago)

Is Jonathan gay?

chap, Sunday, 17 June 2007 17:42 (eighteen years ago)

he's married and has two children?

RJG, Sunday, 17 June 2007 17:47 (eighteen years ago)

Oh. So no then.

chap, Sunday, 17 June 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

carole: get rid of the top-knot do.

also, get new glasses.

jed_, Sunday, 17 June 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

sorry, was married and is engaged. the four new ones were billed as "straight", too

http://www.whydidigowrong.co.uk/?p=723

He had been married to Laura Naska Durden for 18 years before she was found dead in 2003 after suffering from anorexia

...

He has now found love with a publishing executive and the pair are set to marry when BB finishes after postponing their summer wedding.

Vintage car lover Jonathan wrote a novel loosely based on his life where the main character beds a series of women

...

“He’s one of those mad, creative types who always live life on the edge. He became quite a hit with the ladies — he was very, very successful. His s******g exploits are legendary.”

RJG, Sunday, 17 June 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

so. he's gay but in denial :)

grimly fiendish, Sunday, 17 June 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

That could be the twist ending!

accentmonkey, Sunday, 17 June 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

i can't imagine what made ch4 choose Billi. i'll be very surprised if he says or does anything interesting.

jed_, Sunday, 17 June 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

With a bit of luck he'll nob Chanelle.

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 17 June 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, she seems to have opened up to him a lot. They can bond while straightening their hair.

If BB adds any new people, I hope they add one very attractive female; I think it would shake things up much more than adding another male.

musically, Monday, 18 June 2007 05:21 (eighteen years ago)

Jesus, how many times does she have to tell you? There is nobody more attractive than Charley. Everyone's always looking at her, and they're always copying her clothes. Why are you picking on her?

accentmonkey, Monday, 18 June 2007 07:17 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder what price you can get on Charley being the first housemate to punch Davina during her exit interview.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 18 June 2007 08:38 (eighteen years ago)

Charely: "when i leave, Yeah? my best bits are gonna be fuckin hilarious, it will be so funny"
Liam: "hmm"
Brian "yeah i'm really lookig forward to that"

jed_, Monday, 18 June 2007 11:47 (eighteen years ago)

i'd like to see a music video of my highs and lows each week. including slow-motion sobbing.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:00 (eighteen years ago)

Charley also invented going out on Tuesdays or something.

musically, Monday, 18 June 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

She looks like she's in a panto the way she walks around with no trews on all the time.

accentmonkey, Monday, 18 June 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

Tracey the People's Raver in phat shit-stirring mode for some unknown reason. Boo hiss.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 18 June 2007 22:24 (eighteen years ago)

I dunno, I was pleased to see Tracey actually do something for once.

Billi is rubbish.

Matt DC, Monday, 18 June 2007 22:42 (eighteen years ago)

Billi - Chanelle - Zippy is great tho.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 18 June 2007 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah that could have a way to run. I'm presuming this was exactly the sort of thing they'd planned on from the start so good work Channel 4. Chanelle for the winner, still.

Actually there is some nicely simmering tension or chemistry right across the house now - Nicky v Jonathan fite could be fun. Also am I right in thinking that Gerry and Seany are the only time where there's been the slightest bit of chemistry between gay dudes in the house. Usually they hate each other. If there is real actual bumsex in the house this year, will Channel 4 actually show it?

Matt DC, Monday, 18 June 2007 23:02 (eighteen years ago)

Billi and Chanelle are about equally rubbish imo. bottom of the class, both.

It got quite interesting tonight when johnathan confronted the twins in front of the others to try and tease out the reasons for and level of awareness of their cutesy act, good on him. it's a shame he ruined it by getting v letchy about nikki and trying to talk to carole about the fact Nikki was shutting him out (after 2 days...). kinda sent a shudder through me, that. i def think there's much more of that to come.

Charley having mental unprovoked argument w/ Laura was entertaining. will she never learn? Larura took it quite well and redeemed herself slightly. also quite enjoyed this exhange:

Brian: so, do you know jodi marsh?
Charley: course i do!

why do all the guys in the house fancy the same vacuous bimbos?

jed_, Monday, 18 June 2007 23:56 (eighteen years ago)

because that's all that's in there, of course.

what i mean is that Nikki is the prettiest by some distance. what do you think?

jed_, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 00:02 (eighteen years ago)

Nikki is the most attractive by some distance, but not the most conventionally pretty (that would be Chanelle, probably) - and I can imagine her standoffishness being more intimidating in the flesh than it is on telly.

chap, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 00:04 (eighteen years ago)

cutesy act.

Dy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 01:52 (eighteen years ago)

i mean, if it's not an act is it okay?

Dy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 01:53 (eighteen years ago)

Tracey the People's Raver in phat shit-stirring mode for some unknown reason. Boo hiss.

I don't know if it was boo hiss. Tracey likes Ziggy, and it seemed to me a little like she was giving him a heads-up.

accentmonkey, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 07:10 (eighteen years ago)

They're all missing Shabnam!!

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 08:38 (eighteen years ago)

According to BBLB the other day, all contestants did an IQ test before they went in. The two lowest scorers were Charley, with 70, and Shabnam, with 46! How on earth can anyone have an IQ of 46??

nate woolls, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 08:59 (eighteen years ago)

she wrote her answers on the table.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 09:05 (eighteen years ago)

she wrote on both sides of the paper. At the same time.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 09:07 (eighteen years ago)

Also part of me is hoping Jonathan is playing a proper Jungle Cats style game and will get really nasty and devious from now on. Unlike everyone else he's trying to take out the housemates in the strongest position - the twins, who are never going to be nominated unless people start believing they're hiding something. If I were him I'd start flattering people like Charley with "you're real and they're just pretending" type comments.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 09:09 (eighteen years ago)

According to BBLB the other day, all contestants did an IQ test before they went in. The two lowest scorers were Charley, with 70, and Shabnam, with 46! How on earth can anyone have an IQ of 46??

You can be not very good at IQ tests. I'm rubbish at them.

accentmonkey, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 09:13 (eighteen years ago)

wikipedia categorises Shabnam's IQ as "Trainable Mentally Retarded"

onimo, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:20 (eighteen years ago)

How on earth can anyone have an IQ of 46??

uh, quite easily? If her mental age was 13 and her real age was 26 then she would have an IQ of 50.

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:24 (eighteen years ago)

Was it to do with the "culture" of "if you get stuck on a question, skip it and return to it later" that these tests are built around, that possibly did for Shabs?

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:24 (eighteen years ago)

xpost that doesn't sound right!

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:25 (eighteen years ago)

I can't watch any of this, Charley talks so fast it makes me dizzy just to listen to her, it's the verbal equivalent of handheld fuggin' camerawork

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:26 (eighteen years ago)

just read that Shabnam was 22 years old; she has a mental age of just under 11 then.

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:27 (eighteen years ago)

ratio IQs are even stupider than the IQs that people actually use

RJG, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:31 (eighteen years ago)

ratio IQs are retarded

onimo, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:36 (eighteen years ago)

jebus! when did Lesley walk ?

Ste, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:38 (eighteen years ago)

If her mental age was 13 and her real age was 26 then she would have an IQ of 50.

ergo, everyone gets more stupiderer as they get older? *that's* retarded.

CharlieNo4, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:38 (eighteen years ago)

Over a week ago, Ste. Do keep up!

Charley's Vice Girl Secret TM is on the front of the Daily Star today. I can't actually be arsed googling to find out the right story, and I certainly wasn't going to stand in the shop and read anything other than screamingly big headline, but, y'know, vice shame, blah blah, heard it.

ailsa, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:10 (eighteen years ago)

Basically, she once said "£500 for a shag" to a bloke in a club as a joke. He said "£300 if you go away"

That's it.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

Carole, Jonathan and Shauney up for eviction.

Charley isn't.

jed_, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

Charley is due the biggest booing in the history of BB.

I agree that Nikki, however she spells her name, is the most attractive and probably the prettiest too. I feel sorry for her ending up as the cook who never has any fun etc but the BB house often has that effect on people whose idea of fun isn't Club 18-30 style...

Ronan, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

i called nicky as most sympathetic HM on night one. but have not been watching much since.

That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

I do always find it amazing, though (as does Nikki), the way they eat their meals and then they just all fuck off into the garden and wait for the pixies to do the washing up.

xp to Ronan

accentmonkey, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

i really hope seany goes.

jed_, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

I don't. I like him.

accentmonkey, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

I feel sorry for her ending up as the cook

If I were in the house I'd want to do as much of the cooking as possible - a) to pass the time and help keep me sane, b) to make myself indispensible.

chap, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, but there's been loads of "cook"s. There was a chef once.

They don't win. They tend to get taken for granted, then nominated.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

It's true. If good food is a priority for you, the BB house probably isn't where you should spend your summer.

accentmonkey, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

I can't find a story yet on the official site about who nominated who and why. I'd guess Jonathan is favourite to go at the moment?

Seany isn't annoying or wacky most of the time, he's just a bit of a twunt every now and then. He's not in my Top 3 of hate.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

Jonathan... up for eviction.

Do not fuck with the twins.

DavidM, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

WTF was Carole's problem?
Why does Chunnel subconsciously want to evict Zippy?

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 22:06 (eighteen years ago)

totally confused by the carole situation. maybe she's just having a nervous breakdown.

keith lemon on BBBM redeems the entire farrago.

jed_, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 22:19 (eighteen years ago)

Either Endemol edited to make her look bad or she's losing it. Either way it might affect her standing in the eviction vote.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)

actually, I like seany, actually

he is a dick but I think he's actually quite humourous

RJG, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 22:32 (eighteen years ago)

hope jonathan goes

is billi cross-eyed?

RJG, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 22:32 (eighteen years ago)

was funny when billi came in and seany said "another gay!"

RJG, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 22:33 (eighteen years ago)

i still think she's totally safe. i expect she'll end up with the least votes on friday.

also LOL at chanelle trying to do a nikki graeme with her strop about the pool being cold.

jed_, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 22:34 (eighteen years ago)

charley searching for "violated" and finding "validated"

RJG, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 22:59 (eighteen years ago)

"i'm drowned-ing"

jed_, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

OMG at Charley crying and insisting Big Brother can't film her because her hair got wet.

ailsa, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

I don't understand what the fight between Carole and Nikki was about. Can anyone enlighten me?

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

Not me, sorry. This £100,000 twist sounds a bit shite.

ailsa, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

Agreed.

And why is it impossible for someone to be a pervert just because he has 2 kids?

V, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

Jonathan clearly actually quite a perve.

i don't understand why ch4 would spend £100,000 on a shite twist for one episode that no one gives a fuck about and could actually drive out contestants? i mean i'd actually quite like them all to leave but i don't think ch4 do.

jed_, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

although it's not so much the prviness that's the problem it's the fact that anyone who refuses to respond to his "charms" gets treated like shit.

jed_, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

prviness = perviness

jed_, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

i don't understand why ch4 would spend £100,000 on a shite twist for one episode that no one gives a fuck about and could actually drive out contestants? i mean i'd actually quite like them all to leave but i don't think ch4 do.

Oh I like it. It'll be interesting to see how the "not in it for the money" people react to there not (as far as they know) being any. Also, assuming BB keeps the pretense up it's not a one night stunt but something they can stew on. I guarantee Charley is sitting thinking "Do I want to be Eugene?"

onimo, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

i don't understand why ch4 would spend £100,000 on a shite twist for one episode that no one gives a fuck about and could actually drive out contestants? i mean i'd actually quite like them all to leave but i don't think ch4 do.

-- jed_, Wednesday, June 20, 2007 7:36 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

They must think a lot of Brothers and Sisters

Gukbe, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

jonathan describes himself as "an egomaniac". not how I would describe him

RJG, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

Jonathan may well be a lech but as one of the girls pointed out, all the guys are checking out the girls but it's seen as creepy from him because he's older.

Also, the girls have had numerous conversations about checking out the men, particularly Ziggy when he was the only man. About two nights into the show they were going through his underwear and commenting on his size, then they chased him around the house trying to get his trunks off.

In short: house full of two faced arseholes.

onimo, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

But women objectifying men is DIFFERENT from men objectifying women. Has crappy pseudo-feminist nonsense spouted by mentalists taught you nothing?

ailsa, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

Alright, I missed this early episode. Synopsis please.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

Apparently not. Get the kettle on.

bah xpost

onimo, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

Housemates gathered in living area.
BB shows Diary Room with £100k suitcase and says "BB will get back to you."
They all go squawky chatty mad.
Davina tells us one of them will get £100k and the others will think the prize money's all gone.
See you at 9.30

onimo, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

Jonathan may well be a lech but as one of the girls pointed out, all the guys are checking out the girls but it's seen as creepy from him because he's older

good point but i do think nikki was quite repulsed by it. i do think he's a good contestant and i'd rather he stayed and seany left.

jed_, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

i want either seany or carole to leave.

nicky's 'i know all blokes are pervs' lines ruined all her credibility on the matter.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

that said, nice tits

Gukbe, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

Squawky chatty madness mostly involving trying to work out the relevance of being live on Channel 4 on a Wednesday night.

xpost, haha

ailsa, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

nicky's 'i know all blokes are pervs' lines ruined all her credibility on the matter.

Yes, her problem was that it wasn't a fit young bloke being a pervy creep, reinforcing her other problem with feeling so much older than the fit younger(er) girls.

onimo, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

Also in the show: Carole, Gerry and Jonathan, seperately, have a go at Nicky. All muttering vaguely about her two-facedness and the whispering campaign she is allegedly carrying out. Or something, they aren't being very specific.

DavidM, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

Old people scared of large group of young people so pick on loner in the middle.

onimo, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

I don't understand. Has she done a whole load of stuff I don't know about? Why is everyone picking on her? I'm not sure I can keep up.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

This is a shit twist.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

It is. I'm not even convinced the housemates even understand it.

Who the fuck is this tit on BBBM?

ailsa, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

Would it have been better if they'd gone with Jonathan's suggestion of giving it to Amanda? Twin division might have been more interesting.

ailsa, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think it's been clear enough to the house that this is supposed to represent the entire prize fund being given away.* I think they think it's just a nice present for somebody.

*I don't think it's been clear enough, tbh, and if I don't understand I'm FAIRLY FUCKING SURE that Charley, Chanelle and The Twins AS A MINIMUM aren't making that assumption either.

aldo, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

I think potentially it could have been a grebt twist IF IT WAS PRESENTED OR EXPLAINED PROPERLY.

Shit presenter is the best Bo Selecta character of the final series.

a couple of xposts there

aldo, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

Best Bo Selecta character = damning with extremely faint praise.

ailsa, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

I think some of them understand and will explain it to the rest.

Note that Charley who doesn't need the money was first to ask why they picked Liam.

Condom Head Minkey!

onimo, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

I strongly suspect that I may spend large amounts of time at work tomorrow explaining it to colleagues :-(

ailsa, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

I don't understand the point of it AT ALL.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 21:52 (eighteen years ago)

It doesn't really look like Davina or her writers know why it's happened either.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 21:53 (eighteen years ago)

how come they couldn't even get this right? i don't think the housemates understood his at all. plus i'm actually quite furious that ch4 have given Liam £100,000.

endemol probably employ at least 20 people whose only job is to come up with ideas for BB and this is all they could do?

jed_, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

i know, i know: if i want to know what's going on, i should watch it. but can someone explain this twist thing? from what you're all saying here it sounds SHIT.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:12 (eighteen years ago)

grimly, the twist is that there was a 100k prize (same amount as the winner gets), and the three housemates up for nomination had 1 minute to choose someone in the house to receive it. They chose Liam. According to Davina, the housemates should now assume that the prize "fund" is completely depleted and the winner will receive nothing. However, being that BB did not state this to them, I'm not entirely sure why the housemates would immediately assume it. Certainly it will cross their minds and they'll discuss it at length, but I don't know if anyone of them will be that sure about it, one way or another.

musically, Thursday, 21 June 2007 05:45 (eighteen years ago)

But does it even matter?

The prize money is 'nothing' in relation to the open-cheque that the winner gets from the book/appearance/media circus potential.

Mark G, Thursday, 21 June 2007 08:36 (eighteen years ago)

Liam won the money for being ordinary. What an honour.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 21 June 2007 08:45 (eighteen years ago)

my god. that is the mother of all shit twists. thank you, musically.

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 21 June 2007 09:31 (eighteen years ago)

The prize money is 'nothing' in relation to the open-cheque that the winner gets from the book/appearance/media circus potential.

BB winners never make as much money as the most controversial housemates tho.

Giving 100k to someone at this point just seems ridiculous and somewhat unfair. Perhaps there will be another twist and he'll have to choose between keeping the money or having them wire Charley's jaw shut for a week.

blueski, Thursday, 21 June 2007 09:55 (eighteen years ago)

He should go into the Diary Room and demand that BB donate his £100k to a worthy charity ASAP and guarantee himself teh nice guy win.

onimo, Thursday, 21 June 2007 09:57 (eighteen years ago)

If I was him I'd just walk out and say give me the money - have they specified he has to stay in to get the money?

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:01 (eighteen years ago)

so if the housemates all think the prize money is gone, why don't they all just walk out now ?

Ste, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:09 (eighteen years ago)

because they are on the telly, getting DEALS

onimo, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:10 (eighteen years ago)

exactly.

Mark G, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:15 (eighteen years ago)

dilemma!

Ste, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:16 (eighteen years ago)

If I was Liam, I'd bounce now. 100k, plus say another 25-50k for any magazine and newspaper interviews, that's 150k for two weeks work.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:17 (eighteen years ago)

It would have been great last night if he just said "Give me my money and open the fucking door. I don't need to spend another minute pretending to like these arseholes!" but I'm sure the thought of BB saying "haha fooled you" was in the back of his mind.

onimo, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:19 (eighteen years ago)

There's probably something written in their contracts which states any 'walking' results in any forfeit of any winnings during the show.

maybe

Ste, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:23 (eighteen years ago)

Well, he's a bit of a 'humble joe' right now, and the thought of cutting/running would seem to be churlish if not rude.

Mark G, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:26 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder if the rules say anything about not being a complete twat to everybody cos you no longer care.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:28 (eighteen years ago)

The John McCrirrick gambit?

Mark G, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:29 (eighteen years ago)

Presumably the entire house will nominate him next week anyway.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:31 (eighteen years ago)

So, there's a possibility that one of Liam's nominations (for eviction) voted for him to get the money!

Mark G, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:36 (eighteen years ago)

They'd be doing him a huge favour if they did (xp)

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:36 (eighteen years ago)

Probably yes, but there's no guarantee he'd get voted out. And it would be a comically churlish thing to do. Looking forward to seeing who's a comedy churl.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

How (more) stupid would Endemol look if he was voted out next week and was able to saunter off with 100 grand of their money in his sky rocket?

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:40 (eighteen years ago)

What, in comparison to Emilygate and Jadegate?

Mark G, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:03 (eighteen years ago)

That's individual idiocy not corporate idiocy

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:04 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I meant more in the "Let's put Jade back in" and "Let's put a blonde indie girl w/ enlightened use of words in" type corp idio.

Mark G, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:05 (eighteen years ago)

£100,000 is more important than Jade Goody

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:06 (eighteen years ago)

Plus it's not as if Emily's application form said "I enjoy referring to black people with racial epiphets"

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:14 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sure she'd agree.

xp

onimo, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:14 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, drop the "Emily" one from my prev.

Jadegate, then.

Mark G, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:18 (eighteen years ago)

Right, erewigo...

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/1045062

Who do you want evicted on Friday?


Carole Vincent 21%
Jonathan Durden 34%
Seany O'Kane 46%

Mark G, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:00 (eighteen years ago)

channel4 should have a "most hated" all-star version of big brother, with the most viciously stupid and irritating contestants all thrown together into one big snakepit of irrational fury

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:23 (eighteen years ago)

HAHAHA Tracer, fab idea, are you on call now?

I have noticed Nicky backchatting about a couple of people, not just Jonathan. She's already self-identified as a total misandrist anyway.

LOL that Charley's safe for another week, I missed yesterday's so who got to vote?

If any of those women knew their feminist onions it wouldn't be about perving rights, it would be about 'why do one or two men get power of eviction over the women, just because they're men?' I think only Laura questioned it in the middle of hatting on Zig.

suzy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:24 (eighteen years ago)

When oh when will Democracy come to the oppressed peoples of the Big Brother house?

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

LOL that Charley's safe for another week, I missed yesterday's so who got to vote?

Everyone nominated in the old-fashioned way.

accentmonkey, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

charley's safe?? yesterday's daily star said she'd been booted!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:28 (eighteen years ago)

Ah. Vote breakdown? Hand, you missed a question.

suzy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:29 (eighteen years ago)

channel4 should have a "most hated" all-star version of big brother, with the most viciously stupid and irritating contestants all thrown together into one big snakepit of irrational fury

This'd be kind of like in video games where you get to the end and they make you fight ALL THE BOSSES again, one after the other, and you're like o shit

Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:29 (eighteen years ago)

it would also get C4's license revoked.

blueski, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

it would be worth it for the ratings!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

suzy i'm at work but i zoom home for on-call in just a couple of short hours

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

it would also get C4's license revoked.

This idea gets better all the time

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

charley's safe?? yesterday's daily star said she'd been booted!

-- Tracer Hand, Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:28 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

booted by her current boyfriend, basically.

Mark G, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

voting breakdown from digisy:

Amanda, who was first to nominate, picked Carole and Tracey, saying they were both "too serious" and "dead stressed".

Billi picked Carole and Jonathan, saying he felt "mothered" by her and that Jonathan could buy any experience he wanted.

Brian was the third housemate in a row to choose Carole. He then nominated Seány, calling him "a bit of a bell-end". He added, "I was willing to give the boy a chance and he mugged me off."

Carole was the only housemate who nominated Laura, citing her "dismissive" attitude. Carole also nominated Nicky because "she just goes over and over the same thing."

Chanelle picked Charley: "I don't like how she has a sip of wine and pretends to be pissed out of her face and falls on the floor, and shows all her female genitalia for no reason." She also nominated Seány.

Charley nominated Nicky for being "vicious" and Seány because of the pranks he played on her.

Gerry picked Charley. He said: "My honeymoon period with her ended." He also picked Liam because he felt they had nothing in common.

Jonathan nominated Nicky for her "cliquey ways," and Tracey for her "endless
catchphrases".

Laura reciprocated Carole's nomination, and she also picked Jonathan. "There's something not quite right about him," she said.

Potential love-birds Liam and Nicky both nominated Jonathan for being "rude". Liam also nominated Charley and Nicky nominated Seány.

Sam, like Amanda, nominated Carole for being "a bit pushy". She also picked Liam.

Seány nominated Brian for telling him off for peeing on the plants, and Tracey for being "blunt".

Seány's pranks were again cited as a reason for nomination when Tracey picked him. She also nominated Jonathan. "He's taken on the role of my dad," she said. "No-one wants their
mum or dad in the house."

The last housemate to nominate was Ziggy. He picked Charley for being "lazy" and "see-through" and stirring things up. Nicky picked up her fourth nomination for being "moody".

jed_, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

"I was willing to give the boy a chance and he mugged me off."

Come again?

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:44 (eighteen years ago)

"pretends to be pissed out of her face and falls on the floor, and shows all her female genitalia for no reason."

It's C4, you can say FANNY.

"all her"?

onimo, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:46 (eighteen years ago)

According to the Daily Star, Ziggy & Chanelle did IT last night, so complaining about showing off fannies is a bit rich. Unless they did it in that sauna thingamy or something.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

it would also get C4's license revoked.

This idea gets better all the time

24 hour feed, soundtracked at all times by the Black Strobe album at obnoxious volume. Opening shredding of "Brenn Di Ega Kjerke" as Charley and 2005 Lesleh lock eyes for the first time and start grinding their teeth ominously.

Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

look, at least charley didn't show off her male genitalia

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

Or yours.

kv_nol, Thursday, 21 June 2007 14:17 (eighteen years ago)

I strongly suspect that I may spend large amounts of time at work tomorrow explaining it to colleagues :-(

Yep. It took all of 30 seconds after I got in before it started. Not one of them understood either what was going on or what was meant to be going on or why it was meant to be going on. Not that I think it'is in any way a good idea, but at least I get the point of what they were intending, even if the execution of it was shite.

ailsa, Thursday, 21 June 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

You know what I wish? I wish Channel 4 would make up their minds what time Big Brother is on.

accentmonkey, Thursday, 21 June 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

Seany & Laura convincing Brian that there's no plumbing in Wales or Ireland was brilliant. Seany pushing Charley in the pool wasn't :(

But if anything saves him on Friday it'll probably be the latter.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 21 June 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

I take back anything I said about liking him. There is a special circle of hell reserved for people who play practical jokes.

accentmonkey, Thursday, 21 June 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

The whole Charley thing is taking on a bullying aspect. But he seemed to do it without thinking.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 21 June 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

Channel 4's site is saying that Ziggy just dumped Chanelle =O

musically, Thursday, 21 June 2007 22:42 (eighteen years ago)

They showed a bit of it on BBBM, it went something like
"Well at the day of the day it's a decision."
"..."
"I don't want people talking behind my back."
"I heard it was people talknig behind my back."
"It's both our backs."
"So where are we at?"
"At the end of the day if we want this later then we will but just now it's a mutual decision."

WAHT?

onimo, Thursday, 21 June 2007 22:49 (eighteen years ago)

I only caught the very end of the highlights show. I have no idea about the build-up of circumstances leading up to Seany pushing Charley in the pool, but it seemed quite light-hearted, and she seemed to take in good humour to start with (at which point I thought, oh, she's matured a bit) before collapsing into Nikki-Grahame-esque howling once she had everyone's attention.

Am I being unfair on her?

(xpost, haha, brilliant, saying it's mutual = it's mutual. Uh-huh)

ailsa, Thursday, 21 June 2007 22:52 (eighteen years ago)

charley going to change right after johnathan called it was funny

Gukbe, Thursday, 21 June 2007 23:50 (eighteen years ago)

I think Seany's tossing Charley in the pool will only help him come eviction night. I hope Carole goes...she's absolutely insufferable now.

musically, Friday, 22 June 2007 02:03 (eighteen years ago)

Who do you want evicted on Friday?


Carole Vincent 22%
Jonathan Durden 33%
Seany O'Kane 44%

Not changed much, but you never know. Margin of error can be quite large, but if the leader is 70% or above, it's usually safe to assume.

Mark G, Friday, 22 June 2007 06:59 (eighteen years ago)

Shawknee's heavy odds on favourite to be evicted with teh bookies and they rarely get it wrong.

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2007 09:14 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I can only remember one incorrect bookie prediction in eight years of BB, and that was Science vs Maxwell.

Also also ALSO: there's a market open on "highest eviction percentage". Charley is 8/13 favourite.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 22 June 2007 09:17 (eighteen years ago)

Shawnee is relying on the Irish Red Indian vote to keep him in

Tom D., Friday, 22 June 2007 09:19 (eighteen years ago)

The Irish Gay Muslim Red Indian vote.

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2007 09:30 (eighteen years ago)

It is a small community, but surprisingly powerful.

accentmonkey, Friday, 22 June 2007 09:32 (eighteen years ago)

Right, so for the second eviction running, it seems the person going hasn't really done much to justify the 'haet'...

(The 'throw into swimming pool' was different to the 'throw glass of water over hatee' as he wasn't on his way out of the door running away, necessarily. Not saying it was justified or owt...)

Mark G, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:32 (eighteen years ago)

His japes would get right on your tits if you were there, I'd imagine. They piss me off and I'm only spectating.

(PS Dear Firefox US English dictionary, spectating is a real word, stop making me doubt myself! Luv O)

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:37 (eighteen years ago)

a man getting booted for no apparent reason makes a change from it being a woman week after week. i liked shabnam more than most of the others and found her quite endearing. i'm not sure people dislike seany because of the practical jokes i think, like me, they just... don't like the guy for some hard to define reason. i actually prefer him to gerry, whose voice really goes through me and who, i suspect, is quite a manipulating and unpleasant character. i don't think seany would do anyone any harm but i'm pretty sure gerry would.

jed_, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:46 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think the practical joke in this instance will do Seany any harm - Charley so hated anyway. I'm sure someone said this already!

I thought it was funny, which I might not have if it were another housemate. But then last night's show was pretty hilarious all round. Which makes a change from most of the bits I've seen this week. I haven't been paying much attention to it lately.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:53 (eighteen years ago)

The practical "jokes" I've seen Seany play all resulted in people being very upset - pulling Lesley's blanket off, giving Gerry's Monkey a safe head, throwing Charley in the pool.

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:57 (eighteen years ago)

i quite liked the monkey-condom thing because i'm quite opposed to grown men having bears. i think it's either creepy or fake and attention seeking. probably both in this instance.

jed_, Friday, 22 June 2007 12:08 (eighteen years ago)

i think it's either creepy or fake and attention seeking

see also: practical jokers

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2007 12:10 (eighteen years ago)

Why are there condoms in the house anyway?

Tom D., Friday, 22 June 2007 12:13 (eighteen years ago)

i agree, onimo.

jed_, Friday, 22 June 2007 12:15 (eighteen years ago)

So people can shag without getting a) pregnant b) stds?

Also, comedy monkey heads.

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2007 12:16 (eighteen years ago)

xpost, obv

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2007 12:16 (eighteen years ago)

I've just watched the repeat of last night's show, and the whole Charley and Nicki thing was just great. While Charley was a bit drunk and getting dressed up, she almost seemed like a nice person for a second. They should have had a proper Zoolander style walk off.

Seany pushing her in the pool was mean.

accentmonkey, Friday, 22 June 2007 13:00 (eighteen years ago)

Charley's vulnerability becomes dead obvious. Fixating on those boots because they cost her a lot and she can't just go and buy another pair (well, she probly can now but obviously that hasn't suck in yet.) I don't like the way she behaves, but it's becoming obvious how defensive most of the behaviour is.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 22 June 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

I think Seany pushing Charley into the pool might be perceived as quite mean. Charley was already embarrassing herself by running off to get changed to outdress Nicky, and I got the impression that most of the housemates knew what she was up to and how desperate she was acting. To come out to the garden to that reception, trying desperately hard to impress, and then getting pushed in the pool...

maybe i read the situation wrong though, and people were all really "go charley! hawt!"

Gukbe, Friday, 22 June 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

No, I thought they were laughing at her.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 22 June 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

Johnathan shoulld not go, he has more value.

Carole is at the end of her tether, as is everyone else (with her).

But that's not going to happen.

Mark G, Friday, 22 June 2007 13:52 (eighteen years ago)

No, I thought they were laughing at her.

It seemed to me as though she was in on the joke, though, that she knew that they all knew what she was doing. If you see what I mean.

accentmonkey, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

I think she was seriously upset but also remembering that she isn't supposed to care about money or expensive stuff so became really self conscious and couldn't work out whether to laugh it off or cry and shout - meaning that the others didn't realise quite how mean schawhkneigh was being.

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:38 (eighteen years ago)

Am I mean for not giving a shit how mean anyone is to Charley? She made her bed etc.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

Sometimes there's guilty pleasure in seeing someone other than the weak, insecure, unpopular kid getting bullied and taken down a peg or two, but when it comes down to it bullying shows everyone to be weak and insecure. I think Charley looked frightened and helpless as she didn't know what to do. or how to react.

Apart from when racism rears its ugly head, C4/Endemol have pretty much ignored every instance of bullying I can remember on BB. Remember how Shahbaz was treated before he left? There's no doubt the guy was a bit of a dick but the bullying was really out of hand.

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

Endemol loves it when they go feral.

xpost: I feel sorry for Nelson Muntz too.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 22 June 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

Charley isn't simply a bully victim, she's also quite mean. The way she acts and her attitude is this enforced arrogance, and that shouldn't be just forgiven as the actions of a victim, because if she didn't act that way she wouldn't be victimised.

The way she came out and started vogueing was just horrible. Why would she want to "beat" another person like this? Is that the actions of a victim?

Pride comes before a fall, in this case into the pool.

Ronan, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, but i always feel bad in films when the arrogant, power-mad villain loses control and realizes he has lost.

Gukbe, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

normally the villain is likeable.

Ronan, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

No-one said anyone was simply anything. Throwing someone in a swimming pool for being arrogant and vain is wrong.

I can't stand Charley and her attempt at stealing the limelight from Nicky was ridiculous, but that doesn't make Seany less of a dick.

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

Seany really is the guy who doesn't know when to stop. I kind of feel bad for him in that sense.

Still, Liam seemed to get a kick out of it.

Gukbe, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

Just watching the catch-up show - haha, Brian's really thick.

chap, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

Just watched last night's.
Tracey made her biggest contribution so far when confronting Amanda: "Did you get me baccy? Did you get me baccy? Did you get me baccy? Did you get me baccy? Did you get me baccy? Did you get me baccy? Did you get me baccy? Did you get me baccy?".
Before sloping off to a corner to sit out another day.

I thought, from the descriptions, I would feel a pang of sympathy for Charley (who I don't hate hate, and find fairly entertaining sometimes), but I don't much. Shoving people into pools is a cuntish trick, but, yeah, it was kind of her cumuppance.

lol @ Carole trying to find a way of blaming Nicky after Jonathan told her it was he who moved her precious towel.

DavidM, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah I don't like Seany either, but it just felt like somebody had to ridicule her awful behaviour to be honest.

Ronan, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)

lol @ Carole trying to find a way of blaming Nicky after Jonathan told her it was he who moved her precious towel.

That was good

Carole: my towels my towels yadda yadda I'm going to kick the arse right out of this one all fucking night
Jonathan: oh that was me, sorry.
Carole: *deflation*

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

they are going to be pretty shocked when seany gets the boot.

jed_, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

Shabnam to host 'Have I Got News For You' - 12 - 1

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

I can't help but wonder that if Big Brother had have started a year earlier or later, we'd be watching Dani Behr and Claudia Winkleman would be hosting this every fucking night.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

what was that all about?

"you'll have to sheild me here"

C H

am i being thick?

jed_, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

not just because i misspelled shield.

jed_, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't understand any of that either

nate woolls, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

I think "shield me here" meant to shield from the cameras while she wrote something

nate woolls, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

Charley: "Everyone loves an Essex boy"

Dom Passantino, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

yeah but what was C H? and what was she writing that she couldn't just say?

jed_, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

CHarley? CHanelle? Don't know.

nate woolls, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

THIS IS A MUTUAL BREAKUP, IT IS, IT IS.

That's the worst most cack handed breakup of all time from Ziggy there.

Ronan, Friday, 22 June 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

made weirder by the fact that chanelle subconsciously wanted it, as someone said upthread.

jed_, Friday, 22 June 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

all this time i thought chanelle was kinda stringing ziggy on or at least just not as into it as he was but she seemed genuinely upset there.

cannot believe fucking shawny is going tonight. are the public fucking thick? are they on a mission to rid the BB house of anyone burdened with a personality?

titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 22 June 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

Showny's personality is that of an annoying cunt.

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

but he has one

titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 22 June 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

bear in mind ive not been watching bb very much lately but still... shawny was entertaining with the zingers, no?

titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 22 June 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

no

jed_, Friday, 22 June 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

I like Seany! A hell of a lot more than I like either Carole or Jonathan, that's for sure.

Although lols at Charley complaining about Seany being evicted, when she nommed him.

accentmonkey, Friday, 22 June 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

you've changed your tune more than charely did ;)

jed_, Friday, 22 June 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

Because I'm keeping it REAL!

accentmonkey, Friday, 22 June 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

seany shouldn't have gone

RJG, Friday, 22 June 2007 22:27 (eighteen years ago)

who

jed_, Friday, 22 June 2007 22:29 (eighteen years ago)

me

RJG, Friday, 22 June 2007 22:32 (eighteen years ago)

RIP

Dom Passantino, Friday, 22 June 2007 22:33 (eighteen years ago)

Here's hoping he's pushing St Peter into the swimming pool tonight.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 22 June 2007 22:34 (eighteen years ago)

new thread

xpost

jed_, Friday, 22 June 2007 22:34 (eighteen years ago)

Pick a good title and it's yours.

Mark G, Saturday, 23 June 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

i can't think of anything. it's uninspiring.

jed_, Saturday, 23 June 2007 17:22 (eighteen years ago)

Well, when something happens to inspire, we'll do it.

Right now it'd be based on a Chantelle or Charley catchphrase, and that aint good enough.

Mark G, Saturday, 23 June 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

"theyre funny little things"

what charley said about the twins

i think thats a good title

WHOS WITH ME?

titchyschneiderMk2, Saturday, 23 June 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

gfi!

Mark G, Saturday, 23 June 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

knock yourself out titchy.

jed_, Saturday, 23 June 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

Satan's Piss wd be better.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 23 June 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

I really like seany

RJG, Saturday, 23 June 2007 23:16 (eighteen years ago)

is it love?

jed_, Saturday, 23 June 2007 23:43 (eighteen years ago)

it must have been

RJG, Saturday, 23 June 2007 23:47 (eighteen years ago)

but it's over now

Gukbe, Sunday, 24 June 2007 00:37 (eighteen years ago)

"I'm Not Being Funny, It's Big Brother 2007 (UK) Thread 2"

musically, Sunday, 24 June 2007 01:11 (eighteen years ago)

nobody wants to be a postman.

dan the developer.

kids shows about venture capitalists.

for some reason i just remembered that conversation.

Gukbe, Sunday, 24 June 2007 01:20 (eighteen years ago)

whats gfi mean?

titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 24 June 2007 09:57 (eighteen years ago)

Brian and Charley seem to be in a caravan.

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 24 June 2007 10:19 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, why are they in a caravan?

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 24 June 2007 12:53 (eighteen years ago)

Charley and Brian won a knobbly knee competition and have been given a "traditional British holiday" in a caravan.

On the diary room programme they've just had Ziggy talking about his boyband days and how he was on some boyband supertour (Take That, Backstreet Boys, N*Sync and Northern Line). Gerry was all "OMG! You know Justin!" "Well, I don't know him exactly" "But you worked with him on this tour!" "Err, well..." "But you met him at least, you were on the same tour for weeks." "Errrrr....."

V, Sunday, 24 June 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

Lolz at Billi and his completely transparent attempts to get Charley nominated.

accentmonkey, Sunday, 24 June 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

i'm surprised there wasn't a rush to post after that. the whole episode was a total wtf?! billi really is extremely strange. even worse was brian's hard-on and charley's reaction to it. even morse than that was the fact that brian had never heard of william shakespeare and actually got quite aggressive towards liam and nikki in his disbelief that no one else would know or care who shakespeare was.

jed_, Sunday, 24 June 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

He must have been taking the piss though, surely. I mean, to never have heard of Shakespeare. Really?

accentmonkey, Sunday, 24 June 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

I am still finding the twist fishy...they all seem to acknowledge that there's no prize anymore, and yet there was never any moment of realization by the housemates, and that certainly seems like something they would edit into the highlights show.

musically, Sunday, 24 June 2007 22:43 (eighteen years ago)

my occasional forays into this thread feel increasingly surreal.

i feel liberated by not watching this ;)

grimly fiendish, Sunday, 24 June 2007 22:49 (eighteen years ago)

First time I'd seen it for a couple of weeks, sheesh. The Shakespeare thing had to be a joke, surely.

Chris in Belfast, Sunday, 24 June 2007 22:51 (eighteen years ago)

your occasional forays into this thread feel entirely monotonous

crosspost

RJG, Sunday, 24 June 2007 22:53 (eighteen years ago)

not for me :)

grimly fiendish, Sunday, 24 June 2007 22:54 (eighteen years ago)

Big Brother 2007 (UK) Thread 2: An Eye for a Tooth

RJG, Sunday, 24 June 2007 22:56 (eighteen years ago)

Does anyone else feel a bit bad for Nicky? It's really awkward to watch her make advances towards Liam while he's telling the other housemates he doesn't fancy her. I like Nicky because I've realized, for better or for worse, she's my personality twin, so I guess I'm pulling for her.

musically, Monday, 25 June 2007 06:24 (eighteen years ago)

I like Nicky because I've realized, for better or for worse, she's my personality twin,

this bit is like jonathan

so I guess I'm pulling for her.

this bit is just disgusting

RJG, Monday, 25 June 2007 06:31 (eighteen years ago)

The "name the next thread" comp is still running.

oh, and gfi = Go For It.

Mark G, Monday, 25 June 2007 07:09 (eighteen years ago)

TO be honest, I'm hoping they start the 'entertaining scenarios' in the manner of tasks.

For some reason, the "maxwell in the workhouse, everyone else in luxury but pretending they're not" one sprung to mind.

That sort of thing.

Mark G, Monday, 25 June 2007 09:04 (eighteen years ago)

It seems they were all woken up at 03:30 am to do nominations!

It's an "Emily" throwback!

Mark G, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:07 (eighteen years ago)

an "Emily" throwback?

RJG, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:09 (eighteen years ago)

doing things at 03:30, that is.

Mark G, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:09 (eighteen years ago)

Throwbacks were first popularized in Major League Baseball, where teams not only wore renditions of their past styles, but also tributes to defunct minor league and Negro League baseball teams as well.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:10 (eighteen years ago)

a "Mark G" throwback

RJG, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:11 (eighteen years ago)

Nicky is not that bad, is she? I was thinking she'd mellow out if she made a love connection but that doesn't seem to be likely.

musically, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

Over the next 50 hours, housemates will be allowed just three hours' sleep. The time that housemates spend asleep will be shown on a giant clock in the living area. If one or more housemates close their eyes for longer than a minute, the timer will start counting down. If the timer reaches zero, housemates fail the task.

"No sleeping, right, cos I want to smoke next week," said Liam, before adding, "I'm sure we'll be allowed coffee."

"So," said Tracey, doing a bit of dodgy mental arithmetic, "we don't get to go to bed until Wednesday morning."

Mark G, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

They need Shabz back to pass that task.

onimo, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

Oh sleep deprivation, just what they need.

brian was SOOOOOO faking about not knowing who Shakespeare was. He is trying to do a Jade ie. stupid comments get lots of coverage. I thought he dealt with the erection issue quite well in the circumstances though - you can either pretend it doesn't exist and end up looking quietly creepy, or laugh it off immediately and defuse the tension. Although the dirty talk later just made me want to vom.

Archel, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

So has BB just decided that if this lot aren't arguing about food then they're just too boring to broadcast? There is no way they're going to pass this task, surely? I certainly couldn't do it.

accentmonkey, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 06:55 (eighteen years ago)

I could. But then again I'm not going hyperactively freaky at it - conserve some energy, people, you'll tire yourself out!

Chanelle in the Diary Room last night ranting about Charley was quite funny. I still like her. Charley is still terrible.

ailsa, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 07:02 (eighteen years ago)

Brian's apology after pissing the bed was ace.

Big speculation that nomination chat (surrounding Billi) has ruined the process again this week so Charley has got off again. To be announced live on C4 at 7:30 tonight.

Sleep task failed just after midnight this morning. Tracey was claiming the lack of sleep was making her ill and they took a vote.

aldo, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 08:31 (eighteen years ago)

I was wondering how Billi was escaping censure seeing as how he was *that close* to basically saying "OK everyone why not nominate Charlie this week, ay?"

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 08:34 (eighteen years ago)

Tracey was claiming the lack of sleep was making her ill and they took a vote.

Well, at least they did that. Jesus, the bickering next week will be horrendous.

accentmonkey, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 08:58 (eighteen years ago)

Rubbish. She's supposed to be a raver! What's the world coming to.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:09 (eighteen years ago)

ooh, i will totally tune in for the sleep deprivation episodes!

g-kit, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:11 (eighteen years ago)

Brian is not play-acting, he is so stupid he seems like a character in a sitcom. Billi is a twat, obviously, but why does he hate Nickey so much? Was there a row there at some point?

Ronan, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:12 (eighteen years ago)

When I said took a vote, I actually mean they took three votes. Jonathan kept them re-voting until he got the result he wanted (a kip).

aldo, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:24 (eighteen years ago)

Tracey "I went to a 3 day party, went home, stayed up, yeah 4 days" !!!

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:27 (eighteen years ago)

Brian's apology after pissing the bed was ace.

wait waht?

I spotted on someone's paper on the train that Tracey faces eviction for sending codes messages outside or something? Is that true?

onimo, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:32 (eighteen years ago)

gravy = I'm dying inside

RJG, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:38 (eighteen years ago)

wait waht?

Brian pissed the bed in the caravan after drinking cider all night with Charley. He realised when he woke up in a puddle, took the duvet out to dry (in the rain, which Tracey found hilarious) and ran off to take a shower. At which point BB told Charley the holiday was over because she had broken the rules.

She didn't share the reason why it was over with Brian, just that it was, who went in to the DR to apologise to the HMs and BB for what he had done. He was like a kid at nursery, or a sad puppy:

"And, you know, I don't want you to punsih anybody else because of the stupid thing I done, because it was just me who did it and I should be the only one you do anything to. You definitely shouldn't not give the others alcohol because of what happened, it's not fair on them, I usually drink a glass of water every other drink so I don't get too drunk but Charley wouldn't let me and I won't do it again and I promise I'll drink water if you give the others alcohol so don't punish them because it was my fault. Please."

He couldn't look the camera in the eye when he was doing it.

aldo, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:52 (eighteen years ago)

Pissing the bed on national television. Well done, son.

Tom D., Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:56 (eighteen years ago)

Plus, Charley being angry about 'losing' the task even though losing meant the caravan holiday was over. i.e. not going "Hray hray" or owt.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:57 (eighteen years ago)

xpost yeah, Brian so embarrassed about now this is what he will be famous for for evermore.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:58 (eighteen years ago)

He's the New Face of Incontinence

Tom D., Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:59 (eighteen years ago)

"I made you a bed, but I wetted it"

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:01 (eighteen years ago)

(That's not a "Thread Two" entry, btw)

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:01 (eighteen years ago)

It allows me to use the word "pissabed", and that can only be a good thing

Tom D., Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:04 (eighteen years ago)

the fact that he pissed the bed was, frankly, disgusting. i don't know how that can happen. he's really the worst. he wasn't joking about the shakespeare thing, i don't think.

I thought he dealt with the erection issue quite well in the circumstances though - you can either pretend it doesn't exist and end up looking quietly creepy, or laugh it off immediately and defuse the tension.

huh? i'm absolutely baffled by this. those aren't the only two options, actually, you could just tuck it up and ignore it instead of pulling up your shirt, pointing to your tented crotch area and sayng "heee charley... charley, look at me".

jed_, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:10 (eighteen years ago)

Well, at least it was raised as an issue, so at least Charley could avoid talking about anything sexy or do owt to make it worse. Like, not talking about how he might describe performing oral sex, that sort of thing...

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:15 (eighteen years ago)

Was this pre- or post-pissabed?

Tom D., Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:17 (eighteen years ago)

pre.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:22 (eighteen years ago)

Charley could avoid talking about anything sexy

RJG, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:23 (eighteen years ago)

I can't understand anything she says anyway

Tom D., Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:24 (eighteen years ago)

It is pretty sexy how she moves her head and touches her lip. It makes me think she is a rich supermodel.

Ronan, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:32 (eighteen years ago)

shes not very sexy but she is nice looking. and funny.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:33 (eighteen years ago)

I agree she's not very sexy, but disagree on everything else

Tom D., Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:35 (eighteen years ago)

Tracey "I went to a 3 day party, went home, stayed up, yeah 4 days" !!!

In fairness, she did say that when she did that, she was taking things that were much stronger than "fresh air and black coffee".

accentmonkey, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 11:11 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, even so: That just means she was so wasted she can't remember being asleep, rite?

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 11:27 (eighteen years ago)

Well I seem to be some kind of Brian apologist now so: I don't care if he is an enormously stupid manchild with little or no control over his own bodily functions, I find him amusing. He reminds me of Jeremy in Peep Show.

Archel, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 11:50 (eighteen years ago)

he reminds me of a mix of jeremy and the green giant. or shrek.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 11:51 (eighteen years ago)

http://allstarz.hollywood.com/~malkovich/pictures/lenny.jpg

L to R: Jonathan, Brian

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 12:16 (eighteen years ago)

Bristol Evening Nazi reporting as front page news that Emily the Indie Racist is moving to Spain to avoid the hate and the death threats from all the people in Bristol who she claims use those terms all the time.

aldo, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 13:04 (eighteen years ago)

So next time an English team play in Spain we can expect to see Emily on the terraces leading the monkey chants etc?

Tom D., Tuesday, 26 June 2007 13:07 (eighteen years ago)

if people be pissing the bed, i reckon it's about time i started watching this series. game on!

g-kit, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 13:08 (eighteen years ago)

Hari Ashurst ftw next year.

aldo, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

Insider leaks (the reliable DS leaker) says Carole, Billi and Tracey this week.

I suspect that means it's Billi for talking about noms, Tracey for her secret code and Carole for...?

aldo, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

Byebye Billi, then.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

Billi, Tracey and Carole have all been nominated for eviction this week.

Big Brother told the housemates that Nicky and Charley had received the same number of votes as Billi, Tracey and Carole, but they would not face the public vote as Charley and Billi's votes would not count.

Big Brother decided to punish Billi and Charley for talking about nominations and the revelation immediately sparked a row as housemates worked out who the punished pair voted for.

"So that means one of you nominated me," Nicky said.

Charley defended herself, saying it could have been Billi who nominated her. The row escalated from there, completely overshadowing Billi, Tracey and Carole's plight.

wtf this is nonsense, the discussion they're talking (which was between Billi and Nicky)about was after they had both nominated. This is some 'keep Charley in' bullshit.

aldo, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

thank god for gerrymandering.

jed_, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

I thought his name was Stergiopoulos?

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

just saw all the brian pissing the bed and before when bb woke them up on the phone and charely sez "it's pissin outside" lol!!!!

RJG, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 22:15 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, that smacked of fixing. Also, why take Charley in to tell her what was going on, if not just to make her and Billi fight some more? I really REALLY can't be arsed with all this fixing and fiddling bullshit. Anyone want to bet that they have something up their sleeve for when Charley finally gets evicted, like a secret house or a plan to put her back in or a "lol yr votes didn't count, ha, fooled you, it's a new non-eviction week twist" or something.

That Brian guy isn't for real, is he?

ailsa, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

nope!

RJG, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

I mean yep!

RJG, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 22:18 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks for clearing that up!

ailsa, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

wtf this is nonsense, the discussion they're talking (which was between Billi and Nicky)about was after they had both nominated.

The discussion they got punished for basically consisted of Charley accusing Billi of having nominated her, and Billi admitting that he did, among a bit of name-calling. It seemed completely fair to me that they were both punished.

accentmonkey, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 22:35 (eighteen years ago)

"don't call me names, fuckface" = Charley brings teh lack of self-awareness.

No, it doesn't seem fair at all! It was all done and dusted - the thing BB explained in the diary room was Billi saying "I nominated her and I hope you all did too" (or similar) after all the nominations had finished, I got the impression *that* was the problem. Charley didn't know about that until told in diary room, yet somehow gets what amounts to a free pass into next week. She wasn't "punished" at all. If they'd both been at fault, appropriate punishment = make them face each other for the public vote.

ailsa, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 22:46 (eighteen years ago)

I'm fully aware that the producers are purposely manipulating it so Charley stays, and I LOVE IT! Although I'm surprised they mentioned that Charley and Nicky got a pass to the housemates, basically telling them that Billi nominated Charley (well, they all knew that already, didn't they) and that one of them nominated Nicky.

I won't miss Billi No Mates at all. If Emily had still been in the house they would have been perfect for each other.

So who's going to start the new thread?

musically, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 05:48 (eighteen years ago)

the lolcats.

Mark G, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 07:47 (eighteen years ago)

Surprise time:

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/1045929

Who do you want evicted on Friday?


Billi Bhatti 76%
Carole Vincent 8%
Tracey Barnard 15%

Mark G, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 08:35 (eighteen years ago)

Watching last night I thought if Billi and Charley werre up Billi would still go. He's that much of a divot.

suzy, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 08:37 (eighteen years ago)

I thought he dealt with the erection issue quite well in the circumstances though - you can either pretend it doesn't exist and end up looking quietly creepy, or laugh it off immediately and defuse the tension.

huh? i'm absolutely baffled by this. those aren't the only two options, actually, you could just tuck it up and ignore it instead of pulling up your shirt, pointing to your tented crotch area and sayng "heee charley... charley, look at me".

-- jed_, Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

omgwtflol! i haven't been watching, i have become That Guy, but this is priceless.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 08:41 (eighteen years ago)

As a punishment for failing the insomnia task they have had all their food taken away and are being fed "slop" in individually marked cans, three times a day. They have to eat it all within 30 minutes of it being 'served'.

This could be hilarious, as Laura thought they would get fish and chips as a treat instead.

aldo, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 08:52 (eighteen years ago)

Billi saying "I nominated her and I hope you all did too" (or similar) after all the nominations had finished, I got the impression *that* was the problem.

It was, but it's still breaking the rules. And her "I know you nominated me" is also breaking the rules. I also think it's kind of appropriate that her "punishment" for breaking the rules is a free pass to next week, when her "reward" for winning the knobbly knees contest was a night in a pissy caravan with farty Brian.

I do think that the producers are trying to keep Charley in, but I also think that they've decided they don't like Billi, and designed the punishment specifically to annoy him, because he knows that the public hate her and that if he hadn't fucked up, she'd be out this week. Instead it will be him. Take that, mister game player.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 09:50 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, am I the only one that thinks this was fair?

Charlie in shouting at Billi, to which he replies "hurr, we'll see won't we?"

Which was basically "I nommed you and got everyone else to as well, cuz I'm so smart"

Which Charlie sussed out immediately.

I'm more amazed he didn't get punished earlier. It was more blatant than Nasty Nick!

Mark G, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 10:14 (eighteen years ago)

brian: "that billi thinks he's the best looking thing since sliced bread"

jed_, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 10:24 (eighteen years ago)

Brian is amazing. He's like the lovable version of Charley.

musically, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

Well, likeable maybe.

aldo, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

In previous BB news, Prestelle have split up today.

aldo, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

OK, that argument. Charley = worst housemate ever. I think I'd rather have Nikki Grahame back.

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

Oh Ziggy, don't open up to him. Your enemy's enemy is not your friend.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

Billi is a complete tit, tbh, and Brian isn't actually human but some sort of fake-BB-contestant-bot, so they don't count.

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

What a shit birthday for the twins, though.

OMG WHY CAN'T CHARLEY SHUT UP!!!!
It's a good thing I'm not in an enclosed space with her. I would make Jade Goody look like Socrates.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

Why does Charley keep going on about how she doesn't need money? Isn't she on benefits? I bagsy the £500 from the "shop a benefit cheat" helpline.

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

Lolz at tins of slop though...

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

"A whole great big fuck off tin of creamy stuff".

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

It's kind of getting to the stage when Charley's words just all blur into one unintelligible garble of stuff that no-one at all wants to listen to. As much of a tit as Billi is, at least he's got the guts to tell her she's a total fucking pain.

Brian = HERO!

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

Yep.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

Aye, he just did that as I was about to hit submit, hence lack of clarity. Seriously, for all his general fuckwittery, that was one insightful bit of intervention. Someone had to say it (or at least needed to), I'm just gobsmacked that it was him.

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

Waht is happening I am stuck at work :'(

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

What did he do/say? I'm missing it because the kids are playing a wrestling game (tag match from a 2005 game which amazingly features 4 wrestlers who are still alive to this day).

onimo, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

He roared at both Charley and Billi in the middle of a huge argument to shut the fuck up and think of other people in the house.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

Charley did look as though she was getting ready to hit Billi though. I almost wish she would, partly because I'd like to see Billi get a smack, and partly because then she would have to be spirited away and miss out on her big eviction party.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

He basically shouted the argument down, and told Billi and Charley to stop screaming at each other (after a fuckload of screaming at each other) because none of the other nominees were running about acting like a bunch of prima donna egocentric wanks so why should they, before running off shaking like a leaf and pacing up and down the garden.

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ailsa, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

SLOP

jed_, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

I wub Brian. He must win (despite bed pissing, stiffies, etc).

aldo, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

I also thought that what Jonathan said to him was really nice.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, Jonathan was really nice to him. Although hands up who of us then thought he was going to ask what "eloquent" meant.

aldo, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

Agreed, that was really good of Jonathan to recognise it. Brian seemed genuinely shaken - the way you feel when you stand up to someone when you feel all brave and pumped up on adrenalin, then stand back and go "WTF did I just do there and what happens now" - so having someone tell you you did the right thing is just what he must have needed.

It was just like Craig Phillips v Nick Bateman round the table all those years ago...

*wishes it was like that all the time*

ailsa, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 21:47 (eighteen years ago)

i'm trying to catch up but i'm faleing so bad :(

g-kit, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

It was just like Craig Phillips v Nick Bateman round the table all those years ago...

that's fine but this IS 2007

RJG, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 23:50 (eighteen years ago)

There are rumors (or should I say rumours) that Jonathan is walking...he's discussed it with the house but it's hard to tell if it's just regular talk or a real decision.

musically, Thursday, 28 June 2007 05:44 (eighteen years ago)

They mentioned it on BBLB yesterday, but didn't have much detail on it.

accentmonkey, Thursday, 28 June 2007 07:09 (eighteen years ago)

They showed Johnathan saying so on BBBM last night.

Something about how he's looked at himself and considered why he was in the house, looking not for acceptance and approval, but more for some sort of agreement that he wasn't so great. But, because he was enjoying himself and was happy, he wasn't getting this.

BBBM went on and discussed a list of philosophers that this pertained to , but I forget which one just now.

Mark G, Thursday, 28 June 2007 07:17 (eighteen years ago)

Schopenhauer?

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 28 June 2007 07:22 (eighteen years ago)

Every time Charley is on one of her rants at someone, it makes me think what must have happened in her life to make her feel the need to fight all the time. I feel kinda bad for her (although the thought of being trapped in a building with her is still nightmarish).

hejira, Thursday, 28 June 2007 08:08 (eighteen years ago)

Big Brother's party for the twins turned into a nightmare as the food contained nasty surprises.

The housemates gathered around a window which allowed them to see an array of cakes, pastries, ice creams and sweets in a separate room, decorated with pink birthday balloons and streamers.

"Oh my God!" screamed Sam, as Big Brother asked her, Amanda, Nicky and Liam to go into the "party room".

The group entered the room while the rest of the starved housemates looked on through the bedroom window with jealousy. As the housemates picked through the food, Amanda yelled: "Slop, it's all slop!"

Amanda discovered that beneath the thin layers of cream, pastry and icing, the birthday treats were filled with the same slop they had been eating since they failed their insomnia task.

"That's horrible. What a shit party the wankers," cried Liam.

Liam, however, managed to focus on the bright side as he cut in the birthday cake to reveal corned beef: "I like corned beef," he said to the girls.

The group searched through all the treats on the table in an attempt to find something edible. Much to their disappointment, they found slop mixed with everything, a whole fish hidden in the truffle and curry powder over all the sweets.

Nicky lost her temper, referring to Big Brother as "fucking bastards" and said to the twins: "I can't believe they didn't give you a proper birthday."

HIGHLIGHTS SHOW, NOW.

aldo, Thursday, 28 June 2007 08:24 (eighteen years ago)

That is a dick move.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 28 June 2007 08:37 (eighteen years ago)

Am I right in that they still have coffee/tea?

They could add some coffee grounds to the porridge, it might well help right?

Mark G, Thursday, 28 June 2007 08:41 (eighteen years ago)

that does sound like it's bordering on psychological unpleasantness. really fucking nasty shit. "slop" ... it's got nightmarish qualities, that.

bring back dean and his guitar. and his sugar cubes.

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 28 June 2007 09:04 (eighteen years ago)

that's fine

RJG, Thursday, 28 June 2007 09:07 (eighteen years ago)

Well, if you deprive people of sleep and then take away the food, don't be surprised if mentalism ensues.

suzy, Thursday, 28 June 2007 09:11 (eighteen years ago)

It's funny how fondly people like me remember Dean, because he just seemed like the kind of guy you could get along with if you were sharing a house, rather than because he was riveting television.

accentmonkey, Thursday, 28 June 2007 09:13 (eighteen years ago)

for the same kinda reason, my favourite contestant ever is gos, because he just struck me as an absolutely top guy.

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 28 June 2007 09:29 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know who either of those people are

Tom D., Thursday, 28 June 2007 09:30 (eighteen years ago)

Racist

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 28 June 2007 09:31 (eighteen years ago)

That's it, I'm moving to Spain

Tom D., Thursday, 28 June 2007 09:31 (eighteen years ago)

this sounds so awesome. must watch.

g-kit, Thursday, 28 June 2007 09:34 (eighteen years ago)

Tonite, Billi and Charli get sent to the "Happy room"

Mark G, Thursday, 28 June 2007 09:35 (eighteen years ago)

Apparently the reason Jonathan is walking MAY WELL BE that he's getting married on Saturday.

He's only just woken up, so he hasn't left yet.

aldo, Thursday, 28 June 2007 09:36 (eighteen years ago)

He's just gone for a swim after a long-ish session in the DR. That might imply he's not leaving.

I have decided I want Brian to win.

aldo, Thursday, 28 June 2007 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

Brian was ace last night! 'God Big Brother you're such a LOSER sometimes' lol.

I also like Billi a lot more now purely for the focused vitriol against Charley: 'I nominated her and I'll nominate her again and again every week until she goes, that would be better than winning for me just to get her out'.

Gos was also one of my favourite housemates. I still remember his parting gift to Gaetano: 'take this - it's a Wagon Wheel'.

Archel, Thursday, 28 June 2007 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

gaetano? who the hell was that?

jed_, Thursday, 28 June 2007 13:29 (eighteen years ago)

fwiw i dislike brian quite a lot but there are a couple of people i dislike more.

jed_, Thursday, 28 June 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

He was the African HM that went on countryswap with Calum.

This transcript of a Charley/Ziggy exchange from last night (courtesy of DS) might go some way to explaining why I maybe haven't been watching as much as I should have...

Anyway, it's a rundown of the fight as shown on Big Brother's HLs show yesterday. I'm sure it will be of interest to many. At times I found some of the stuff difficult to decipher because Charley shouts very loud and all the time. Apart from some of the swearing the Charley says that I can't understand because she's got a strong vocabulary of swear words, I think I got most of it as it happened.

What happened was they announced the nomination results and then the fact that Billy's and Charley's nominations pulled Charley out of being up for eviction.

Charley wanted to talk about it, talk about nominations in general which were against the rules so the conversation went like this as I decipher from my recording:

Everybody got up to leave...

Charley: You lot, have you not heard what just happened there?
Ziggy: What?
(THIS IS BIG BROTHER HOUSEMATES ARE NOW ALLOWED TO LEAVE THE SEATING AREA (people start walking away))
Charley: More people put Nicky up but because...
(Charley continues ranting as people walk away and ignore her rule breaking talk)
Chanelle: We're not allowed to talk about it Charley
Charley: But ok whatever, but because more people put more people whatever they took that from there (LOL )
Chanelle: Ok then I'm walking away because I don't want to be involved in it
Charley: You don't have to be involved in it Chanelle
Chanelle: Well you're involving everybody Charley
Charley: So what?
Chanelle: Do you think you should not get other people in trouble?

(Chanelle is now walking away from the conversation but Charley starts to follow her to continue arguing towards the bedroom)

Charley: You've always got something to say
Ziggy: Just leave it out Charley ok
Charley: How am I getting you..? Why are you always sticking up for her because she's your girlfriend?
Ziggy: I got to stick up for her because I care for her...
Charley: So what?
Ziggy: ... that's why I stick up for because I care for people
Charley: So what? ( LOL)
Ziggy: Switch off.
Charley: If I want to say something darling, I'll say something. I'm just letting her know that if it's ******* me, I'm going to be arguing with people, letting them know, that I know, who it is
Ziggy: There we go again, because we know you say what you say to people, You're
Charley: Oh whatever (staring at the mirror camera and then doing up her socks and continuing to talk)
Ziggy: one person said to me before this show...
Charley: Just wanted to say Nicky (talking to the girl who explained all of this to her in the first place before this ) His one got eliminated
Chanelle: She knew that already without you telling her
(Charley pauses)
Charley: You've always got something to say Ziggy, ******* hell, you're going to have the biggest fan club out of hear because you can't stop getting involved in ****** girl's conversations, loser
Ziggy: please, you've got to stop...
Charley: ******* hell, what's he getting involved for
Chanelle: (laughs) oh... (laughs) ******* hell

at this point it seems like Charley repeated the same, why is he getting involved for, with different expletives, so I may stop but let's see

Charley: He's going to have the biggest fanclub (??) when he leaves this place because he can't stop getting involved in other people's ******* arguments
Ziggy: I don't get involved in other people's arguments, shush shush shush shush, leave it out, pipe down, shush
Charley: You shush, jerk
Ziggy: Pipe down
Charley: Jerk
Chanelle: he's not a jerk
Charley: Well I think he's a ******* jerk, yeah
Ziggy: Who gives a **** what you think, really,
Charley: Who gives a **** what you think then Ziggy,
who gives a...
Ziggy: Do you think I care what you think, look at you, look at you
Charley: look at you, look at you ******* idiot
Ziggy: Go away, Go away
(somebody says something to Charley, it could be Jonathan or Billy as they are in that area, she responds...)
Charley: Oh wait Excuse me, why is he sticking up for her getting involved, You're an *******
Ziggy: You're an insecure mess
Charley: A mess? You've wanna open your eyes you ******* ********, You ******* ******
Chanelle: oh my god!?!
Ziggy: Go away, go away

(laura is trying to move Charley to the bedroom)

She goes in and then comes back out again and gets Billy involved, let me see if I should write some more...

Charley: Do you know what?...
Ziggy: Are you going to go through that door or not and put me out of my misery? Please?
Charley: I don't know why you're sitting there, why don't you tell Billy what you...
Ziggy: Please, please?
Charley: said, oh cut my hair, you two faced idiot
Ziggy: I spoke to Billy about it today,
Chanelle: What? You're two faced more than him! You told him to sleep in the same bed with him! (don't know what this means... maybe due to the argument and something else that happened)
Charley: I told him, I told him (him being Billy) Well I told him, Billy, Billy, he don't sleep in the bed no more
Chanelle: well no, you told him I moved him away! (never knew that, took me a while to decipher that as Charley was saying...)
Charley: oh shut up, oh shut up
Ziggy: Billy, Billy, did I tell you today what I thought?
Ziggy: Shhh Shhh Shhh Shhh Billy did I tell you today what I thought?
Charley: (as she moves into Chanelle's face) oh look at what you do Chanelle, you're scaring me so much (??? wow, she knows how to find a weak point and just take it down)
Chanelle: Look at you
Billy: Yeah you told me today.
Charley: You, You, look at the ******* state of you Chanelle
Ziggy: Ask Billy what he said, ask him
Chanelle: You are a psycho
Charley in the bedroom as Laura dragged her in
Charley: Did you see him getting involved the ******* ***
Laura: yeah yeah you're sticking up for yourself
Ziggy: People care for each other
Chanelle: Psycho
Ziggy: Psycho Psycho
Charley: Yeah cutting (??) jay cutting a ****** ???? (don't know what she said there)
Chanelle: Crazy
(Nicky guards the door)
Charley: look at the *******, ooh let me out
Nicky: No Charley please
Chanelle: Posh spice? and she thinks it's a ******* compliment? She must think the ******* ugly little fraggle
Ziggy: don't be jealous charley it's not a nice sign
Charley: Jealous of her? of her? Never!
Ziggy: relax, relax
Nicky: Come back inside Charley
Charley: you know what sorry girls, I know that this is your birthday, but you know hwat? I had one discussion (???) and he got involved, why, does he alway get in ******* volved.
Ziggy: because I care for her, I care for her,
(Ziggy is now talking to Laura)
Charley: so what? You should mind your own business, It's girl, Do you know what?
She come on this programme alone, same as I did yeah, keep out of it, you stupid ***, and I aint going to walk out of this door to please you, so you can get a little more popularity
Chanelle: He's not listening to what you're saying, see you later
Charley: Shut up, Plain Jane.
Chanelle: See Ya See Ya See Ya
Charley: ******* posh spice, she ******* wish, ***** step, **** *****

Ziggy: In the first week people said that I shouldn't have stuck up for Chanelle when we had that argument because I didn't know her well enough and I didn't know her well enough but now I know her well enough so I will stick up for her and I don't give a ****, against someone like that with a mouth like that? Come on, please?

Billy: I did put her up. and if I'm here next week, I'll do it again and again and again and again.

aldo, Thursday, 28 June 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

Good thing none of these contestants were on last season's US Big Brother...each week the contestants were split into two groups and the losing group had to eat slop for a week. Some people had to eat slop for a month straight.

musically, Thursday, 28 June 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

Jonathon does not appear to have gone. This has, however, allowed him to deliver the zing "Ah Laura, delightful to see you upright."

aldo, Thursday, 28 June 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

"Slop slop, beautiful slop
with a cherry on the top!"

http://dylanhearsawho.com/sitedown.gif

Mark G, Thursday, 28 June 2007 15:13 (eighteen years ago)

Hmm, bit of a drop from last check:

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/1045929
Who do you want evicted on Friday?

Billi Bhatti 61%
Carole Vincent 12%
Tracey Barnard 27%

Mark G, Thursday, 28 June 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

Jonathon does not appear to have gone. This has, however, allowed him to deliver the zing "Ah Laura, delightful to see you upright."

-- aldo, Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:10 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

classic!

jed_, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

Poor Laura. I think I only persist in liking her because I know I would be exactly the same in the house: lying around eating things in the manner of Jabba the Hutt or similar.

accentmonkey, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

What's the deal with the little clips before the adverts advertising Virgin products? Are they clips from foreign BBs?

NI, Thursday, 28 June 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

can't understand them at all.

jed_, Thursday, 28 June 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

I think they're just....skits

*rumpie*, Thursday, 28 June 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not being funny, right, but it's Big Brother 2007 (UK) Thread 2.

jed_, Thursday, 28 June 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

They are real clips from foreign Big Brothers yes.

Ooh new thread ok.

Archel, Thursday, 28 June 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)


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