"don't tase me, bro"

"Are you taping this?"

what did i do wrong

"I'm not resisting!" (resistingly)

http://i19.tinypic.com/5yvvrwh.jpg

every thread needs those chicks

i am deeply in love w/the middle one

me 2 but i will let you hit on her first if i can have 3some with other 2

yah ok np just make sure to finish up that paper first

I don't mean this in a sexist way, but OMG THOSE MIDDLE BOOBIES *drool*

Srsly, what kind of dumbass says "Don't tase me, bro!" to a pissed-off black man with a taser?

(also the middle one is Queen Butterface)

no way bro (r u holding taser?)

this is going to end up as a snorg shirt i just know it

In 37 years of public appearances, through wars, protests and highly emotional events, I have never had a dialogue end this way. I believe I could have handled the situation without interruption, but I do not know what warnings or other exchanges transpired between the young man and the police prior to his barging to the front of the line and their intervention. I asked the police to allow me to answer the question and was in the process of responding when he was taken into custody. I was not aware that a taser was used until after I left the building. I hope that neither the student nor any of the police were injured. I regret enormously that a good healthy discussion was interrupted.

lol robot

far r scares me with radioactive tanlines.

J Frankenkerry, liberal

finished jhøsh lets go get some bikini babes

awes

I don't think the chick in the middle is butterface. She's pretty cute-and has a great rack.

The "tase me bro" guy made an ass out of himself, but he'll get his (undeserved) 15 minutes of fame out of it. Maybe they should have shot him instead.

go fuck a whore

I'm not sure that "HOW DO I SHOT BRO" has the makings of a meme.

The rack in the middle is good, not great.

the middle one is nice

the one on the right looks exactly like jake gyllenhaal

"don't tase me, bro":

http://i11.tinypic.com/3z8f9r6.jpg

xpost hahahahahaha oh god thats unpleasant

It's definitely a great, not good, rack.

u guys are being a little gross here w/yr technical specs and all

So ... does Al Gore not have Secret Service protection anymore?

the one on the right looks exactly like jake gyllenhaal

lolz

lol no wait i meant "go fuck a whore"

we can't, the ones we can pay have been arrested :-(

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/14140253/detail.html

it's already spawned multiple facebook groups:

http://bbk.facebook.com/group.php?gid=4886897485

damn those are some sexy ass hookers with A- racks where do i sign up to fuck them

The arresting officers are taking a leave of abscess pending the investigation.

lol

ahh i cant look at the one on the right anymore THANKS EVAN

this is her,right?
http://64.90.166.24/files/heidi_blog_7.jpg

wau! but who is the middle girl

http://photos-623.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v66/108/61/14500086/n14500086_30419623_1992.jpg

dude i am not the middle girl

unfortunate xpost. girl on left reminded me of that pic but she needs to up the sassy quotient to compete.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa295/slugbert/provenbyscience.jpg

i think it's the same nose or something. no disrespect.

Wow, that picture is getting less hot by the minute.

says you

Now all we need to do is figure out who the dude in the middle is.

Isn't Ned the go-to guy for this kind of thing anymore?

he has a better rack though

The dude in the middle looks like one of my college friends, actually! (Only with breasts.)

we call them "rack" in this thread

(Only with racks.) (Like a dog.)

When did you last see him, dan? these things change.

also, what?

Middle girl's face reminded me of Karl Malden for some reason.

So we have proven by science that, to many ILE men, Karl Malden = NOT a butterface.

Your search - "karl malden's rack" - did not match any documents.

:-(

nsfw sort of i think?

my eyes hurt

this guy calls himself "The Andrew Meyer." he should ahve been tasered yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaars ago.

guys remember the time i was hanging out in my bikini with jake gyllenhall and dan's college friend karl malden?

that was werid, that time

jhøshea tried to fuck karl malden

Isn't Ned the go-to guy for this kind of thing anymore?

-- StanM

he has a better rack though

-- carne asada

You be the judge

so drucnk lol

he is a nice guy tho :/

karl malden?

yah - nice rack too

i remember dan being all mad at you, he kept saying, "JHØSH DONT FUCK MY BEST COLLEGE FRIEND KARL MALDEN" and then he cried or something

oh yeah and then we all smoked weed and he tried to win a jacket on the internet or something

Funny how ILX is critical of everything and your favorite anything sucks until girl.jpg shows up and the standards go <pacino>RIGHT OUT THE WINDOW!!!</pacino>

http://blogs.forbes.com/photos/uncategorized/abc_congdon2_070110_nr_1.jpg

TASE ME BRO
why cuz it look intersting

ahaha, tase me, sis, ahaha

http://i8.tinypic.com/4orq8fm.jpg

STOP RESISTING!

^ A

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/09/18/PH2007091802119.jpghttp://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/09/18/PH2007091802119.jpghttp://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/09/18/PH2007091802119.jpg

http://www.cafepress.com/bobmccarty/3696793

http://images.cafepress.com/product/78820822v13_240x240_Front_Color-BlackWhite.jpg

http://jitcrunch.cafepress.com/jitcrunch.aspx?bG9hZD1ibGFuayxibGFuazoxMDJfRl9jNC5qcGd8bG9hZD1MMCxodHRwOi8vaW1hZ2VzLmNhZmVwcmVzcy5jb20vaW1hZ2UvMjAzNTkzMjJfNDAweDQwMC5qcGd8fHNjYWxlPUwwLDE1MiwxNTIsV2hpdGV8Y29tcG9zZT1ibGFuayxMMCxBZGQsMTcyLDExMXxjcD1yZXN1bHQsYmxhbmt8c2NhbGU9cmVzdWx0LDAsNDgwLFdoaXRlfGNvbXByZXNzaW9uPTk1fA==

http://kscakes.com.nyud.net:8080/LolCats/Uploads/Saved/u-gonna-get-tased.jpg

"tase me, sis" = reason i have images off, chrissake!!

so i have to wait til this evening to see what these are ;_;

god it takes just 3 hours to be completely out of touch with the internet

http://donttasemebro.ytmnd.com/

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa295/slugbert/thatoneweirdtime.jpg

the bit where's he's being tasered and people are just sitting down altho you can hear some voices screaming 'stop' and other things is pretty un-nerving

I'm not sure I agree with most people on this one.

all talk no action. literally un-nerving.

Maybe this was something he did regularly, and he was just caught on tape this time.

do we know anything else about this dude?

he's an internet prankster in case that wasn't already mentioned

I'm not sure I agree with most people on this one.

-- Spencer Chow, Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:03 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

what do most people think?

i lol'd

Not everyone has sided with Mr Meyer. Critics have suggested that the entire incident was a planned attempt to win attention for a student who has already posted dozens of videos of himself on his website www.andrewmeyer.com

Or that website could be a jeweler. One or the other.

Don’t throw no shakey mo, don’t want to tase me bro

i lol'd

^^

If anything by tasering the frat boy he's been turned into some sort of martyr for attention seeking jocks nationwide

Chris Crocker, through a glass jockly.

Nice.

the bit where's he's being tasered and people are just sitting down altho you can hear some voices screaming 'stop' and other things is pretty un-nerving

-- blueski, Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:01 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

if by unnerving you mean delightful and endlessly hilarious then i agree~~

lol yammerin some bullsquid about skull and bones, imo the police showed remarkable restrain not shooting him

-- cankles, Wednesday, September 19, 2007 12:06 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

also it was great how he asked kerry if he's heard of greg palast, like he's fuckin illiterate or something. he was like OH MY GOD I PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER IT IS LIKE TEN THOUSAND DA VINCI CODES!!!!!! and he was obv completely delighted by the opportunity to be dragged away by the police and try to make it look like they were soulless myrmidons sent to brutalize him and restrict his FREEDOMMMMMM. i'm convinced that he was just being theatrical with all the hilarious OWWWW OWWW OWWWWWWWWWW GODDD OHHHOWWWWWW WOWOWWHWWWWOWWWWWWWWWWW shit, i've been tased before and it doesnt even hurt at all after it's over. the guy's a dbag and i wish they shot him with rubber bullets.

Srsly, what kind of dumbass says "Don't tase me, bro!" to a pissed-off black man with a taser?

black man

http://myspace-598.vo.llnwd.net/00415/89/54/415254598_m.jpg

i've been tased before and it doesnt even hurt at all after it's over.

Thirty percent of Americans have been tased and found they like it. It's kind of like putting a 9-volt battery to your tongue, only more sour.

the guy's a dbag and i wish they shot him with rubber bullets.

In the eye, I bet. I heard you applied for a position as interrogation specialist with Titan Corp. but were found overqualified. Perhaps an associate professorship in police training?

i was thinking the back of his head or his chin would be better, so as to increase the odds of a concussion~

Is he a "jock" because there's a number on his shirt and he says "bro"?

Uhh, guys?

Wheelchair-Bound Woman Dies After Being Shocked With Taser 10 Times

http://news.yahoo.com/s/wkmg/20070919/lo_wkmg/14147512

Wow, that picture this thread is getting less hot by the minute.

Srsly, guys, you're disgustingly 15 year old boys on this thread.

And you're shocked by this? Shocking.

Shocked? I guess my cold got me a little delirious yesterday. I shall revert to realism and a bit of pessimism.

Hooray! (eh, I mean, get well soon)

girls are unattractive always.

'Don't Tase Me, Bro!' a global sensation

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/09/20/1189881651002.html

the girls posted weren't actually hott

some parts were

those parts were pretty average.

i dont care what any of you say karl malden is mad cutee

sunglasses girl is 7x hotter

shutup you crush on peyton "my face was sculpted from playdo by a class of blind retards" manning

http://www.avclub.com/content/files/images/lionel%20richie%20sculpture.jpg

^^^ Peyton Manning ^^^

hello?

also jhosh u misspelled jake delhomme u_u

it is true that i almost wrote peyton "my face was sculpted by blind lionel richie video girl" manning

but then i thought: no peyton's face was clearly sculpted by a group w/less talent than the blind lionel richie video girl

also they used an inferior medium

http://www.laist.com/attachments/la_henry/donttaserme.jpg

those signs dont say the right thing

Yeah, it's don't tase me bro. The "bro" is transcendent, and marks this guy as a true student revolutionary, like the Paris '68 crowd and Tom Hayden. He's running a close second on the list in my eyes to the guy in front of the tank in Tinaenmen Square.

for sure, i liked the pic tho
xpost

i'd taser all you corny indie fucks

the simpsons moment most applicable to this dude's life from now on: "I didn't do it!"

"don't tase me, bro"

Were I ever in a possession of a taser, this comment would automatically earn someone a rigorous tasing.

Is it worse to be called "bro" or "champ" or "bud" or...?

Who gets tased first, the guy who says "don't tase me, bro" or "don't tase me, brah"?

Because, generally I just want to kill people (inevitably, random bro-types) who refer to me by those names

don't tase me, brizzle

He wasn't a "dudebrah" type guy, but I used to work with this psycho who called me "Junior" all of the time. Then I got promoted, and he didn't because he was horribly socially inept, and form then on, he called me "Chief."

xxxxpost "sport"

AAAAARRRGGHHHHH! "Chief" is one of the ones that I forgot. It may actually be the worst offender. I am pacifistic to the point of hilarity and patheticalness, but some guy called me that once in a bar while simultaneously implying that I was trying to steal his friend's backpack or some shit, and I almost knocked his block off, a la Lucy from Peanuts style.

i like 'chief'

i can't find the letterman "stop calling me chief" skit from his show on you tube :(

i like intersperse my "chief"s with "bosses" and spread the resulting paste between two intact chiefs

jefe

bossco?

tracer - works @ deli, apparently

Calling another man "chief" is just about the most emasculating thing you can do.

more so than "sparky"?

wait, thirty percent of people who have been tased liked it?!
that is kind of awesome

how about "big man"?

"rise and shine, big man"

"Sparky" has a chiding, jocular overtone. "Big Man" is a straightforward threat-- "I'm ready to throw down w/you". "Chief" is "you are a pathetic whining child-man whose ass I wouldn't even bother to kick."

I am down with "chief" and "bro" in a jokey way from people I at least vaguely know, but "brah" earns anyone the instant eye-jammie taser.

John Lewis speaks truth here, people.

xpost

If it's someone I even kinda know, it's usually fine, but coming from a stranger-- yeah, c'mon.

i am called "chief" and "boss" by deli guys in new york all the time and i love it

i am called "big man" by a glaswegian, who calls every guy he knows "big man" - it begun to grate

yeah, I thought "chief" was nice! I don't get men.

who could have a problem with chief

besides our native american brethren

Guys, come on now, don't start making me think the man I killed with my bare hands was over some idiomatic misunderstanding...

I like "Scout" for the mischievous and perky ones and "Big man" for the ones that give me a crick in my neck to look up at. Obv my internal arithmetic is v different from Jon Lewis's. Have never considered "Chief" but I will now!

Anyone who's ever been asked "You lookin at me funny there, chief?" Which has happened to me.

xposts

If you spend some time in bars by Stadium/Frat Row at the U of MN, you grow to hate chief.

a deli guy in ny may be an acceptable exception, depending on the exact context. What grates so much is when it's just some random fucking guy, like the guy who's standing behind/in front of one while ordering drinks at the bar. I just think it takes some weird mentality to call a fellow guy "chief", and I can't imagine doing it without it coming off as weirdly condescending and insulting. Call me "dude", call me "man", or simply address me directly, but please, no "chief".

What about "Big Chief"?

you guys familiar with "broham"?

If you spend some time in bars by Stadium/Frat Row at the U of MN, you grow to hate chief people.

FIXED

xpost never actually heard it in person

"big man" is totally just to be used by glaswegians.

i have taken to using "boss" at almost every transaction with a man older than me, eg newpaper buying, beer buying etcetc. i can't even remember where i picked it up now...

Hey maybe you cna tell me where the fuck "broham" comes from! I have wondered for weeks.

It's like an English city of bros, or the name your bro took as part of the covenant (haha abraham joke)

for the super get-away-with-ittable putdown, my favorite is "sport" i.e. "pipe down there, sport" - it sends their brain into a fuddle just long enough for you to 1) shoot the hostage-taker 2) wink at a pretty girl 3) put the hidden card in your pocket, etc

If you spend some time in bars by Stadium/Frat Row at the U of MN, you grow to hate chief.

^^ the secret is: do not do this

"broham", I'm pretty sure, though not 100%, comes from where you might think: SoCal surfing/skate/etc culture. One of my best friends from college is from that area and was pretty familiar with the scene (his brother was way into surfing) and we'd often say it to each other in jest.

gff otm

I give people civil war general nicknames ("Old Brains", "Little Nap", "Stonewall" etc). This is why I am beloved by all.

i dunno, i'm v into the idea of bars where everyone just calls each other "chief"

"broham", phonetically similar to the beloved "brah"

at the flying dawkins pub, it will be obligatory to call everyone chief y/n?

I had a lot of time to kill between classes. Also, who wants to be sober for a 3 hour evening aesthetics class? Not this guy.

xposts

brownie you are beloved by me right now

xp oh yes evening classes, i remember those mainly

you lookin at me funny there, old slow trot?

anything after 2pm suffered the "big 10 haze"

WE SHOULD GO TO BIG 10

ha that killed it

BIG 10 IS TEH MIND KILLAH

This guy came 1 inch away from calling a black man "blood"

i dunno, i'm v into the idea of bars where everyone just calls each other "chief"

If it were democratic or ubiquitous like that, it'd be hilarious. But the alternative that I was talking about above is more hilariously depressing/infuriating.

I will go to the big 10 with all these ilxors

this thread's boring now, i ma closing this tab you fux

pastrami. just sayin.

is "broham" hindi?

"Big Guy" bothers me a lot, too. Especially b/c I am a large guy. Not fat, but 6'3", 240 large.

And its only ever brought up by people using a very condescending tone of voice. I kinda want to pull a "Hulk SMASH!" on them.

"'Scuse me, Big Guy." http://www.stomptokyo.com/img-m6/trial-hulk-b.jpg

Except once, when my current boss gave me my current job - he answered the phone "Hey, Big Guy. You ready to get to work?" I was enthused, to say the least.

Big guy, chief, guv'nor, mate, pal, buddy, bro, dude, jefe...

http://www.southtexasdiecast.com/hwguide/images/halloween/L1168.jpg

"Duder" and "Hot Shot"

dudebrah

guy at work i just got off the phone with called me chief!

I worked with a guy who interchangeably called people "dude", "man" and "chief". I'm sure "brother" was also in his rep but he never pulled that one out around me.

Are you assuming, you bigot?

"Padre"

I have very strong circumstantial evidence to back up my speculation, including the fact that he regularly greeted people who entered his office with "Hey dude; what's up, chief?"

I don't think people really substitute "you bigot" for dude/bro/chief/etc

"How's it goin', you bigot?"

havin some 'za with my biggaz tonight

^^^^ anyone who says that, regardless of irony level, should probably die: y/n

(not you, Curtis)

phew!

y

i believe all mortals should probably die, but an immortal could theoretically say it so N

http://mymoratorium.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/comic.gif

http://lightningbox.ytmnd.com/ <-- lol

alaaaaaaaack!

what about the south african "bru"

bru >>>>> bro >>>>> brah

So was the use of excessive force warranted in this case? cankles seems to think so. I'm having a heated debate about it with a friend right now. Tasers are dangerous. Couldn't 6 cops have dragged a skinny dork outside fairly easily without electrocuting him?

Is it funny because this guy is essentially a real life forum troll, and we get to live vicariously through the cops?

Is it funny because this guy is essentially a real life forum troll, and we get to live vicariously through the cops? <<<<<<<<<<<<<< y

I like calling my coworkers honkies.

xposts

It would seem that there were actually two instances where the force question comes up, upon watching the video.

1) When they initially removed him from the microphone. It is unclear as to what they tried to do prior to physically restraining him. If he was being combative, abusive and generally acting outside of the tenor of the forum, they may have had justification to physically restrain him in a mall cop sort of way. The problem is that, unless he is going to present either a flight risk or a physical threat to the cops or others, or himself, the restraint in cuffs was prolly unjustified. He even says "If you let me go, I'll leave." really clearly on the video

2) When he got a little shovey with the cops. This was when they could handcuff him. Was the woman cop justified in tasing him once he was already on the ground with four people on top of him, simply b/c he was yelling? Probably not. The taser is just a lesser form of force, like the handgun or billy club. There are pretty clearly defined rules for use of any of these by police officers. Unless we're missing something, I really don't think that he needed to be shocked into submission by a taser b/c he was being an asshole in front of John Kerry. He didnt seem violent, he didn't seem like a flight risk once he was in cuffs, and he didn't seem like he was going to harm anyone once he had been restrained.

"He didnt seem violent, he didn't seem like a flight risk once he was in cuffs, and he didn't seem like he was going to harm anyone once he had been restrained."

He seemed like a total prick. I'm shedding no tears he got tased.

Basically, the answer would be like this:

1) Threat of harm to others? Cuffs if possible, then taser. Deadly force only if threatened deadly force or seriously bodily harm.
2) Threat of harm to cops? Same as above, but prolly a quicker step from cuffs to taser. Still no gun unless deadly or serious bodily harm threatened.
3) Threat of harm to himself? Cuffs, than taser.
4) Risk of flight from the scene of an arrestible crime? Cuffs, taser, and, if violent felony, gun.

I think that the cops probably were on high "asshole" setting because John Kerry was the important person, and they had a short fuse with this douche bag.

Also, who the fuck asks questions like that in a forum like that DRESSED LIKE THAT?!?! Bro was asking to be tased.

funny how actual discussion of the event doesn't come until 200 posts in

Indeed.

This would make for a very interesting law school final exam/ bar exam question.

asshole or not, stunt or not, I don't know. I went to plenty discussions/forums/etc in college and there was ALWAYS at least one guy who asked a long, obnoxious, 3-part question who didn't really shut up, and not in any case was police force necessary in getting the guy in question to settle down. Was this the first forum the campus police ever worked at? Yea the kid was a little obnoxious and it may have been a stunt but I hardly doubt police force was necessary.

I think only reason they tased him was because he was obnoxious, wouldn't shut up, and was making them look bad in front of a VIP.

I don't care how big a prick someone is - I'm not comfortable living in a place where police can brutalize me because they don't like me. Hopefully they are punished accordingly, and hopefully this attention whore will reconsider his ways.

^^^^ That is pretty much OTM.

yep

May all of y'all who found this incident funny enjoy the pleasures of non-lethal police violence. Soon.

at&t long lines and seagram building otm

wrong thread

that dude in the clip said kerry had been speaking for TWO HOURS!! man, i would have been begging for a little tazing. the police should have been offering free tazings to anyone who wanted to stay awake.

lol

I was sleeping over at a gal pal's house at age 15, and she pulled a taser out from her drawer. "Can I please tase you? I want you to tell me what it's like," she said. I declined repeatedly until she pulled out a ten dollar bill, which she'd give me if I'd let her zap me with the taser. Then, BIG ANXIOUS MOMENT, "Omigod...omigod...taser! Omigod I'm gonna get tased! Oh god! etc!" and it did feel good! Startling but not unpleasant. Then she took back her ten dollars in exchange for letting me tase her and we got in the equivalent of a pillow fight with a taser.

I'll tell you, this kid got off easy: the cops could have thrown a baseball at his head while he stood on some rangeland, causing him to fall backward onto an electric fence. I can testify that's a bad situation.

So was the use of excessive force warranted in this case? cankles seems to think so.

whoa hold on chiefbro! i'm not a lawyer so i don't know if it was warranted - i just know that it was FUCKEN HILARIOUS and made me proud to be an american.

[00:50] me: i would vote for bush if he guaranteed a daily tasing for this bro
[00:50] me: actually i would vote for bush just to cancel out this dude's vote

May all of y'all who found this incident funny enjoy the pleasures of non-lethal police violence. Soon.

-- Nubbelverbrennung, Thursday, September 20, 2007 9:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

lol i have never and will never incite a police officer to use violence on me, because i am law abiding and not a shithead~~

that's what they all say

I know this is hard for some people to grasp but it is possible to think that the police were in the wrong here and still find this incident funny.

"May all of y'all who found this incident funny enjoy the pleasures of non-lethal police violence. Soon"

I have "enjoyed" those pleasures. And I think this was hilarious and that the guy was asking for it. Lighten up.

you paid that 40 bucks extra for the uniform and cosh then

you deserved it

How the hell do you now, you stupid fuck?

How the hell do you now, you stupid fuck?

more from the ilx reserve of modern koans

this is my most successful thread :/

Bill M. pays hookers to taze him

hilarious

go fuck a whore lol

Why, is your mother free today? lol

bILL m. ENJOYS pleasures

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/05/10/joydivision_wideweb__430x421.jpg

the kid "escalated" the situation by resisting, which is a big no-no to cops, for some reason. they've got all kind of techniques for shutting ppl down (multiple ppl grabbing you, all that judo-type arm lock shit, and yes, tasers) that they'll drop at a moments notice. in the big scheme of things, i guess this is sort of an improvement, cos in the old days it was the billy club or nothing.

the real question is why they came after him exactly?? being a douchebag to a US senator?

** after all this i have to admit i haven't actually watched the video! heh, guess i shd do that.

yea I suppose it is just standard procedure to restrain someone pretty forcefully if they are physically resisting arrest, and to be sure, the kid was definitely doing that, flailing his arms and whatnot. But that still doesn't explain or justify grabbing him off the microphone for asking a long obnoxious question. The initial police response was excessive and pretty unnecessary.

but i think that if one wanted to avoid EVER being roughed up by the cops it would be a pretty easy thing to do.

Sure it would. It would involve a combination of luck and extreme cowardice.

yeah this guy was a fucken HERO.

They should have let him go and used those taser darts.

they sohuld have used a magnum

This whole incident is really fucking disgusting and facist and gross to me.

Like yeah, dude's a fucking toolbox and went on too long and said "bro" and shit, but like are people really okay with this and think it's funny? Honestly, i saw that video, he wasn't out of control. that dude's a pussy, like they couldn't deal with this without tasing him? give me a break.

it really bums me out that this shit is all roffleroffleroffle. the cops were way over the line and this shit is really scary to me.

if being a pedantic cockbag deserves a painful physical punishment from so-called government "officials", then most of this board - me included - should get the living shit tased out of us.

If Veronica Mars was there she would have tased a lot earlier.

yeah matt otm

seconded

my first comment on this thread wasn't really a joke!

first they came for the douchebags, etc

police use excessive force all the time. and probably not always against total douchebags. i don't think this casts a light on a new and terrifying phenomenon.

well good it happens all the time now i feel better : )

xpost to Nubbelverbrennung,
i've had my share of run-ins but i put myself in those situations and i might have damn well deserved what was coming to me. i know people who are in no way cowards that have never had any kind of problems with law enforcement personnel. Luck may still have played a part in this but you can definitely reduce your odds greatly by not doing thing that draw their attention.

you guys dont seem to understand that HE CUT IN LINE !!!

basically cops make me nervous so i just stay the fuck away from them

I could never be a cop. I would have slapped that guy upside the head so hard.

What seems weird to me is they were basically trying to arrest him for resisting arrest.

the video on the guardian site had some killer editing that the youtube vids lack

http://youtube.com/watch?v=s4QW1TZ6qII

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_0hm33Bp8nM

man if this is fascism then sign me up for the blackshirts~

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but i think that if one wanted to avoid EVER being roughed up by the cops it would be a pretty easy thing to do.

The speaker is white, y/y

Will! You used a dash! Hooray!

yeah, that helps too
xpost

Police brutality on YouTube: a collection

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/210907_b_brutality.htm

(latest one: dropped cake leads to a broken arm, four arrests and a mother without a job)

Only when Meyer was immobile and had five officers on top of him did the police decide to send 50,000 volts of electricity coursing through his prostrate body, seemingly waiting until Meyer begged them not to do it so as to enjoy the maximum power trip from administrating the torture.

yeah, that's how it looked on the tape

maybe instead of misleadingly writing about youtubes, they could put more effort into helping folks who DID comply with authorities when they were abused sue for wrongful arrest.

what am I saying, this site's main thesis appears to be "9/11 was an inside job"

9/11 was an inside handjob.

that fella is a knob, they should give him the electric chair. that old woman who was moaning about not being able to have a washing line as well.

http://jonswift.blogspot.com/2007/09/are-we-tasering-people-enough.html

The tasering of a student at a John Kerry speech at University of Florida has many people confused. At first conservative bloggers seized on the story of Andrew Meyer's tasering at the UF forum as another example of the unjust treatment of conservatives in our society, not to mention another chance to attack John Kerry. As usual Michelle Malkin led the way. She likes to get on top of a story and draw conclusions as soon as possible because she can always backtrack later.

"You know what the lamest part is? Listening to impotent John Kerry's voice droning apathetically during the entire incident," wrote Malkin. If it had been her giving the speech and a liberal had asked her rude questions and been tasered by police, she no doubt would have leapt into the audience and come to the obnoxious questioner's defense, even at the risk of being tasered herself. That's the kind of person she is. Kerry did later condemn the arrest, saying that he and Meyer were engaged in "a good healthy discussion," apparently not realizing that the reason their discussion seemed so one-sided was because his discussion partner was being electrocuted.

But according to Ace of Spades the police would never have tasered a liberal disturbing a speech by a conservative. Because conservatives are treated like second-class citizens in our society and women refuse to date them, at least judging by his experience, conservatives are the only people who ever get tasered. Stop the ACLU joked delightfully that the ACLU should get involved, knowing, of course, that the ACLU never defends conservatives, other than Nazis, that is. Conservatives were outraged that the civil liberties of one of their own were being trampled.

But a funny thing happened on the way to the blogstorm. It turned out that the student was not conservative but was in fact so liberal he was to the left of Kerry. The initial enthusiasm for Meyer began to wane with this revelation. "No, he isn't one of ours," wrote Dan Riehl, saving his long, self-pitying treatise on how unfair the world is to conservatives, which we are all looking forward to reading, for another day. "Good for the campus police because Meyer deserved what he got," said John Hawkins at Right Wing News. Somehow the idea of a liberal getting tasered didn't seem quite so outrageous after all. And certainly no one minded all that much when a Muslim student got tasered last year in the UCLA library where he may have been reading books on bomb making or something. Eventually, Malkin would change her position 180 degrees and start attacking Meyer. In the midst of reconsidering her initial reaction to the tasering, Malkin even managed to find an anti-immigrant angle. "Speaking of tasers, did you know that immigration officers cannot use them against illegal aliens in federal detention facilities?" she said, pointing out that Tom Tancredo (who is opposed to immigration despite his suspiciously foreign-sounding name) is doing something about this unfair "differential treatment." When the victim of tasering is an illegal immigrant, suddenly it doesn't seem so bad.

You might think that at this point the liberal blogosphere would have rallied to Meyer's defense. At first they seemed to be ignoring the story or even justified the police conduct because the idea of a conservative activist getting tasered at a Kerry speech didn't seem like anything to get worked up about. Plus, liberal bloggers are just as happy to bash Kerry as conservatives are since they blame him for botching the election. Although some liberal bloggers are now tentatively saying that the police may have gone a bit too far, they don't seem quite so outraged as the conservative bloggers almost were. Something seems to be holding them back. Sure, the First Amendment sounds good in theory, but perhaps tasering some annoying people might not be such a bad idea and it wouldn't be prudent to come out against tasering per se. There are a few conservative bloggers, some liberals must be thinking, who could use a good tasering.

While many conservatives and liberals seem to be shifting their positions so quickly it would take a quantum mechanic to sort it all out, I have maintained a very consistent point of view ever since I first heard about the incident. I am 100% in favor of tasering obnoxious people, whether they are conservative, liberal or radically moderate. In fact, I don't think we are tasering people enough and that this country would be better off if we had more tasering not less.

I think we have all seen political events where someone talks on and on or is irritatingly impassioned about their narrow agenda. If we armed security at all of these events with taser guns, I'm sure people would think twice about hogging the microphones and boring us with their speeches about issues we don't care about. Tasering has a remarkably calming effect on people as you can see by the reaction of the crowd at the UF event. Instead of becoming angry at the police or trying to intervene or speak out about the treatment of Meyer, they all became quite docile.

If only we had had tasers in the 1960s, I think we might have avoided a lot of the campus unrest during that turbulent decade. They seem to be much more effective at pacifying people than tear gas, German shepherds, firehoses and bullets. If the police had tasered a few anti-war protesters during the 1960s, we might not have lost the Vietnam War.

Although tasers do reportedly hurt -- a lot -- they are an effective means of nonlethal force, if you don't count the 148 people who have died from being tasered, and their effects are not permanent, the way shooting people sometimes is. If more people were tasered at public events, it would have a big impact on lessening the coarsening of our culture.

Throughout the 2004 presidential campaign, for example, President Bush had to screen the people attending his events to make sure that no one would ask him a rude or difficult question. But it would have been much easier if the Secret Service were armed with tasers and simply tasered anyone who got out of line. I don't think anyone would have asked any impolite questions if they saw that all the Secret Service agents carrying stun guns. The judicious use of tasers might make the 2008 election a lot more tolerable.

But tasers would not just have a calming effect on our political discourse. Just as concealed carry laws reduce crime as criminals become aware that anyone could shoot them, making tasers more available to the general public would make people think twice about being discourteous. Taser International is marketing a fashionable pink taser for women that should keep overly flirtatious men in check. And widespread use of tasers would reduce the number of both surly waiters and annoying customers arguing over every little charge on their restaurant bills.

Tasers also have the potential to transform future generations in a way that could be even more far-reaching than drugging our kids with Ritalin. If our teachers had tasers, students would be much better behaved and we might avoid incidents like Columbine and Virginia Tech. And I can't tell you how many times I have wished that parents had tasers to discipline their unruly kids. In New York they are actually doing something about this problem. Teenagers there are going to think twice about disturbing the neighbors with rowdy barbecues after the 17-year-old son of a retired policeman was tased four times last month after beating him and choking him was not having the desired effect. In Great Britain police are pioneering the use of tasers to pacify impudent little tykes, having just been given the go-ahead to use tasers on children.

No one wants a return of the campus unrest we witnessed during the 1960s and I'm sure everyone was pleased with the very passive reaction of the students at the UF event. Imagine a society where everyone was as calm and peaceful as the very well-behaved UF students were. It's easy if you try.

lolololololololololol am 100% in favor of tasering obnoxious people, whether they are conservative, liberal or radically moderate. In fact, I don't think we are tasering people enough and that this country would be better off if we had more tasering not less. lolololololololololol

i still love jon swift

"to serve mankind"

Although tasers do reportedly hurt -- a lot -- they are an effective means of nonlethal force, if you don't count the 148 people who have died from being tasered, and their effects are not permanent, the way shooting people sometimes is. If more people were tasered at public events, it would have a big impact on lessening the coarsening of our culture.

they are an effective means of nonlethal force, if you don't count the 148 people who have died from being tasered, and their effects are not permanent, the way shooting people sometimes is.

bears repeating why because it look intersting

I like the way shooting people is apparently sometimes not permanent

http://images.salon.com/comics/boll/2007/10/04/boll/story.jpg

guys I have an idea, let's document the utter miserable failure of the human race in the form of a comic

we'll call it...Ziggy

is there a page that serves up ziggy comix in mandarin?

"post modern nihilistic irony"

lol - did leave-brittany-alone guy really use it in one of his diatribes?

I like those comix that you make Tombot.

He should take over writing Ziggy.

Probe finds Taser use on student was OK

Investigation Clears University of Florida Police in Use of Taser on Student

Staff
AP News

Oct 24, 2007 13:13 EDT

University of Florida police were justified in using a Taser against a student who refused to stop questioning Sen. John Kerry on campus last month, according to a state investigation released Wednesday.

Some had questioned the use of force in using the stun gun against student Andrew Meyer, leading to the investigation by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. A summary of the agency's report was released Wednesday.

"In short, the FDLE determined that our officers acted well within state guidelines," university President Bernie Machen said in a letter to students, faculty and staff.

Two officers who were placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation were reinstated Wednesday, Machen said.

Rob Griscti, Meyer's attorney, said he had not yet reviewed the report and had no immediate comment. The journalism major is known for posting practical jokes online on his Web site.

The scuffle between Meyer and police started during the Sept. 17 speech by Kerry when Meyer refused to leave the microphone after his allotted time was up, police said. The videotaped altercation and Meyer's cries of "Don't Tase me bro!" were played frequently on the Internet.

The report says the officers' intent was to escort Meyer from the auditorium, but he broke away and refused to follow the officers' instructions.

"Officers decide not to escalate to hard empty hand strikes, kicks, knees or baton ... (it) would have looked like the officers were beating Meyer into submission," the report said.

The report, which has Meyer's name and that of other students blacked out, said the officers did what was necessary to control the student.

"Our purpose is, and has always been, to ensure a civil and safe environment where the many types of campus activities and open discourse can occur," said Police Chief Linda Stump.

Meyer has been charged by police for resisting an officer and disturbing the peace, but the State Attorney's Office has not yet decided whether to file formal charges.

Spencer Mann, a spokesman for the State Attorney's Office, said the decision may be made some time next week.

I can't believe I only just now finally watched that video. What took me so long?

Well that's good that nothing bad came out of the decision to tase him!!!

Officers decide not to escalate to hard empty hand strikes, kicks, knees or baton ... (it) would have looked like the officers were beating Meyer into submission

lol it'd wouldve looked like they were tasing him into submission?

hahahahahahahahahhaahha

lol ur pain is just a meme

Come off it, if the officers had used kicks, knees and batons then surely it would have looked more like they were inviting him to a garden tea party

Since this is the only taser thread...

Taser sues medical examiners who declare that tasering people contributed to their deaths.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/05/02/20080502taser0503.html

I swear to god that the Monday NYTimes crossword 9 across clue was "Don't tase me, ___".

this whole thread: o_O

I guess the cop who has been fabricating complaints called in on our house is the same cop who, ***on a suicide call***, dragged my friend out of bed and tased him.

britishes version

Deaf, Partially Naked Man Tasered In His Own Bathroom

Was actually searching for this but there seems to be a surfeit of naked taser stories.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/02/taser.officer.dead.ap/index.html

pretty fucking terrible

the whole thing just makes me insanely sad

this is your de menezes then

sorry, that was crass of me, this is obviously terrible, a horrendous accident followed by a needless act of self-denigration

i dont think i want to know what a de menezes is

only like one of the top 5 news stories of the decade in the british isles, at a conservative estimate

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed):

1. it is nothing like de menezes
2. never post on threads about events within the united states.

well it's similar in that operatives followed orders leading to a fatal action upon the object individual, different in that de menezes was a terrorism suspect rather than a vulnerable citizen, and different in that the taser action was not designed to kill. but as i said it was a crass comparison; both are tragic, and in this case the tragedy was redoubled

Okay see, this is the point where you should either:

a) stop responding to the thread; or
b) post "sorry" and stop trying to explain yourself

man i make a throwaway comment and immediately retract it, and you guys are still swarming all over like maddened termites

c) get tased.

also it's ILX, since when have people ever apologised

Um, since always?

lol i actually apologised upthread

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Sold_as_nonlethal_Tasers_killed_400_1213.html

Wis. police chief agrees to be stunned for charity
Associated Press

Last update: January 28, 2009 - 9:55 AM

COMBINED LOCKS, Wis. - A Wisconsin police chief has agreed to let his officers shock him with an electronic stun gun to raise money for the Special Olympics.

Police Chief Steven Wulgaert says he's the only one of his five full-time and five part-time officers who hasn't been shocked during training. He says he took some ribbing about this before telling the officers they could shock him if they raised $500 for the charity.

Officer Duane Dissen says the department has raised about $800 so far and hopes to collect $2,500.

Dissen says Wulgaert will earn the money when he gets shocked before the Combined Locks Village Board meeting Tuesday. Dissen says the pain goes "from your fingertips right down to your toes."

Wulgaert plans to retire March 1.

Tuesday, February 3, 2009: Combined Locks, Wis. police chief dies of heart attack after being tased for charity.

Dissen says Wulgaert will earn the money when he gets shocked before the Combined Locks Village Board meeting Tuesday.

Wear the brown slacks, sir.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1204/1485438349_a3d84a3a00.jpg

whut

shop

Don't even wanna watch the vid in here:
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/scienceblogs/ScienceblogsSelect/~3/rXRtSdyd_-M/see_the_thing_about_the_drugge.php

^^ my main reaction to that is that the cops made the whole thing way, way harder on themselves than necessary

idk why three huge cops had such a hard time restraining a naked wizard, unless he cast a spell on them or some shit.

also dude's peen is LOL of the century

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-MqBxwbeWg

i am resisting your agressions against me in favor that they are ILLEGAL

YYYAAAHHHWWWWEEEEHHHHH

dude's kind of a hero.
somebody needs to put together a collection of teflon superdork youtubes. This + sasquatch dance party starter for instance.

haa what apathetic policemen

'A 72-year-old woman who refused to sign her speeding ticket got out of her truck and dared a deputy to shock her with a Taser. So he did. Video released by a Travis County Constable's Office shows Kathryn Winkfein hitting the ground and moaning while the shocks jolted through her body after the confrontation with Chris Bieze, Travis County sheriff's deputy. Mrs Winkfein was stopped for driving 60 mph in a 45-mph zone just west of Austin. Video from a camera in the deputy's car showed Mrs Winkfein, who is 4ft 11 inches tall, refusing to sign her speeding ticket, getting out of her white pick-up truck and swearing at the deputy constable.

'Mr Bieze then pushes her to get her away from traffic. "You're gonna shove a 72-year-old woman," Mrs Winkfein said angrily, standing inches from the deputy. If you don't step back, you're going to get Tased," Mr Bieze said. "Go ahead, Tase me," she replied. "I dare you." The video showed Mr Bieze using the Taser and Mrs Winkfein hitting the ground and moaning in pain. "Put your hands behind your back or you're going to be Tased again," Mr Bieze shouted, and then hits her with another jolt'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5500959/US-policeman-used-Taser-on-72-year-old-woman.html

wow.

how did that woman not die from that?!

that's what the cop thought

not even gonna watch the video (unless there's something meme-worthy?), but seems like the old bag got what she deserved

This is simultaneously terrible and not terrible; obviously it sucks that the cop used his taser on an old woman, but in what universe was this old woman not begging to be tased?

If a woman begs a cop to shoot her, is it okay to shoot the woman? I'm going with no.

If they were right next to ongoing traffic and she was off her nut, I'm not going to argue with his judgment call there.

He warns her at approx 14:21:40 to step back to the side of the road or else he will tase her. She remains defiant, yelling at him for pushing her away from traffic.

At approx 14:22:10, she dares him to tase her; he's warned her to step back or get tased about 3 times by this point. He responds by holstering his taser and speaking into his radio.

At 14:22:35, the officer attempts to take her into custody, presumably for obstruction of justice (ie, being wholly uncooperative by not signing the ticket and not stepping off of the road). She resists and attempts to go back to her car. He pushes her back and warns her that she's about to be tased. She shakes him off and announces she's going back to the car, at which point he tases her and takes her into custody.

The whole thing is kind of harsh but I don't see that the officer was really in the wrong here. The way this is being reported is not in line with what actually happened.

Could he have restrained her without tasing her?

I'm guessing, yes, but I haven't watched the video.

Cantankerous old folks must be a regular occupational hazard for the police. Surely there are other ways of resolving these situations that don't involve violence?

He attempted to; it's likely that he would have hurt her regardless of how he attempted to restrain her because she was not at all interested in cooperating with him on any level, whether it was signing the ticket, staying off of the road, or not trying to get back into her car and driving off after he told her was going to take her into custody. The cop is totally in a lose-lose situation here; had he muscled her to the ground and cuffed her we'd be reading "US Cop Throws Great-Grandmother To The Ground".

someone needs to run scientific tests of the relative merits of tasering vs. beating 70-year-olds

If a woman begs a cop to shoot her, is it okay to shoot the woman? I'm going with no.

― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:14 PM (19 minutes ago)

if a woman begs a cop to give her a high five, is it okay to give her a high five?

Maybe he felt obliged to zap her, he didn't really leave himself any choice after making the threat in the first place. If you don't follow through, you totally lose control of the situation. Must have been other ways of defusing the situation rather than having it escalate to this ridiculousness.

I would bet a fair sum of money that dumbass old people being dicks on the road cause about four orders of magnitude more pain and loss of life in any given year/month/week than authority figures with ouchie zappers

i'm not understanding why he couldn't simply have cuffed her. Was she too physically overpowering for him to deal with her?

hi tom!

"respect mah authoritah!" vs. "respect mah age!"

i'm not understanding why he couldn't simply have cuffed her. Was she too physically overpowering for him to deal with her?

TS: tasering an old woman and getting bad press for it vs wrestling with an old woman and potentially breaking already brittle bones because they are refusing to cooperate with you and you don't have another person helping you restrain them

Also, this woman does not give the impression of being in any way, shape or form inclined to believe that there is any reason for her to do what this officer asked her to do. It's not like he was making unreasonable request or treating her particularly poorly; she just decided that being an old woman meant she didn't have to cooperate with a police officer who pulled her over.

is tasering the elderly not medically risky too?

I'm sure it is. I don't think this woman gave the cop very many options.

crazy old coot

cop did the right thing imo <---this is ME saying this shit

fuckin hill people

there's no end to the risks involved in dealing with crazy old bags feeling entitled in their dotage

Take away her car keys, leave her cool down, wait for some assistance, engage her in small talk, confiscate her teeth, I dunno, what do healthcare workers do with unruly old folks? Shoot em? Obv. you don't know if the guy has already tried these things but you get the impression that his first reaction is MUST.. USE... TASER...

pro tip: don't mouth off to cops

I'm pretty sure his first reaction was "I gotta get this crazy bag out the road" xp

Basically, if my 70-year-old uncle, who has never had any record and never speeds, can get pulled over for absolutely nothing and be made to lie down on the ground with his hands behind his head for five minutes without incurring any bodily harm or a ticket, this woman could have signed the ticket while the officer held the clipboard. She chose not to. She got tased. Boo fucking hoo.

Take away her car keys, leave her cool down, wait for some assistance, engage her in small talk, confiscate her teeth, I dunno, what do healthcare workers do with unruly old folks?

Healthcare workers sedate them.

How, exactly, is he going to get her car keys? He tried to get her to move off of the road to lessen the chance she'd get hit by oncoming traffic; she decided not to budge. Would he have done the right thing if he'd left her there to cool off and another car hit her? Engage her in small talk... how would this even work? How many people are willing to engage in small talk with someone who's writing them a ticket? If anything, that would have infuriated here more!

just in general, the overuse of tasering is similar to the way cops used pepper spray in the nineties. One gets the impression from scenarios like this that while it's not the first option, it is in the top five. What if this crazy lady had a pacemaker and he killed her?

That would have sucked.

what if you used google?

http://europace.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/eum058v1

HI DERE otm. I mean, yeah, I'm usually among the first to dogpile on asshole cops with authority issues overstepping their bounds, but I think he did what needed to be done in this situation. There was nothing "rational" about this woman's response, so trying to calm her down with small talk was not going to work.

The disparity between the events as they unfold on the video and the events as reported in the story is pretty staggering; I really hope the people arguing that the cop did something wrong have watched the video and we are disagreeing about the same thing.

ILX: Supporting the Tasering of cantankerous elderly women since 2009

more like 1986 in my case

for real

and christ Tom, while a taser might not interfere with a pacemaker it doesn't seem likely to you that a septuagenarian might take a violent electric shock with some greater damage than the average person? Like she's just as likely to bust a hip from falling after a tasering as she is if she's wrestled to the ground?

So, if in either case she is as likely to bust a hip, how should the officer have restrained her (remember, she was resisting being taken into custody after refusing to cooperate with the officer, whose egregious crimes to her civil rights appear to have been pushing her away from traffic and holding onto a clipboard)?

dart filled with metamucil

sexy dance moves

http://www.warpsection.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/logans-run2.jpg

The disparity between the events as they unfold on the video and the events as reported in the story is pretty staggering; I really hope the people arguing that the cop did something wrong have watched the video and we are disagreeing about the same thing.

I watched the video and while the woman was being a total spazzcase, dude was beyond peeved and seemed quick to bring up his taser to try and shut her up. I'm sympathetic in that I'd be beyond pissed myself in his shoes and for all I know cops are told to use it as a deterrent asap. But I think there's a gray area between "fucking pigs should be locked up" and "shoot 'em in the knee for all i care" Cops either need to do some "The Taser: Democracy's Harmless Friend" ad campaign or get used to people questioning whether its necessary/wise to electrocute people who act the fool in public.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pphMecGZQ_s

okay, having just watched the video, she was acting a righteous cunt no doubt. The issue in my mind is that law enforcement officers are obliged to balance the use of force against the danger avoided by that use of force. I guess I just don't buy that a taser is a more reasonable way to subdue people than just grappling with them. Maybe I just need to understand the long term effects of a taser better. Maybe I never got over chewing on the tv power cord as a tot.

But I think there's a gray area between "fucking pigs should be locked up" and "shoot 'em in the knee for all i care"

no!

(for the record, i was trying to get inside the set. I wanted to spend more time with wonder woman. i stand by my actions.)

OK, I watched the video (with the sound off) and that cop is completely in the right...the only aggressive moves he makes are to keep her from walking into traffic. She had to be immobilized or she was going to get herself and a passing motorist killed.

TS: tasering an old woman and getting bad press for it vs wrestling with an old woman and potentially breaking already brittle bones because they are refusing to cooperate with you and you don't have another person helping you restrain them

it's more like ts: potentially killing some old lady vs. potentially breaking a bone of some old lady.

it's not like she's too overpowering for the guy. she's also not his superior - just because she tells him to tase her doesn't mean he's obligated to do so. shove her off the highway and slap some cuffs on her. not hard. the way i see it - dude's a fucking pussy and possibly lazy for taking the easy way here.

that said - i have no sympathy for old lady either. but cops are trained to keep their heads cool i think he should have known better.
but, oh well.\

massive xposts! wow

shove her off the highway and slap some cuffs on her. not hard.

LOL, did you watch the video? This is exactly what he attempts to do before tasing her!

I am kind of lolling at the "well, cops have superhuman strength, surely he could have physically restrained her with no problem, or perhaps used his fearsome telepathy to freeze her in place" posts.

IT"S A LITTLE OLD LADY!

small point, when does she try to walk into traffic? dude orders crazy old lady out of her truck, yells "GET OVER THERE NOW!" in her face when she says "give it to me I'll sign it." When she repeats her claim, he shoves her hard. Later she tries to get back in her car and he shoves her again. Sunday morning quarterbacking and all, but of his reasoning was to keep her from harm's way, he might have wanted to share it instead of yelling variations of "do what i say or get tased."

A little old lady who is resisting + who faces great risk of injury from the struggle that would result from trying to restrain her

"surely he could have physically restrained her with no problem"

http://media.bigoo.ws/content/gif/animals/animals_83.gif

this story - just to remind you how easy it is to kill someone with the tasers.

ha ha - i do love that logic - he tasered her to keep her from harm! lol

He tasered her to keep her from greater harm.

looks to me like he tasered her because she was being an uncooperative pain in the ass and she really pissed him off and he felt justified in doing so.

That said, I have a friend on the TN interstate patrol and the #1 way of being injured or killed on that job is by getting sideswiped from standing too close to the edge of the road. Those guys are justifiably terrified of being killed accidentally on the road; my guess is that this guy is reacting out of fear for his own safety first and foremost.

He tasered her to keep her from jumping in her car and driving off.

Her pushed her to move her away from traffic the first time (notice in the film that traffic drives by seconds after the push). The second push is to keep her from getting into the car.

IT"S A LITTLE OLD LADY!

I keep forgetting that little old ladies don't have to listen to policemen, my bad.

Dude, that's totally why I'm holding out for being a little old lady. You didn't think it was for the water aerobics?

douche - she's a little old lady who is pretty much helpless if a cop really decides to shove her off a highway. "superhuman strength" not required!

xpost!

Is this copy Lenny from Of Mice And Men? Not quite sold yet on this taser=safer than physical restraint idea.

xp not that they don't have to listen dude, that they don't present a clear and present danger to him. He reacts badly when she pushes him back when he tries to cuff her; I think he processes that there's a potential that she could push him into traffic and that's when he jumps to TASER TASER TASER. That's an overreaction, I think.

taser = faster than physical restraint, particularly when they are separated by approximately eight feet

The people who are incensed that this cop used his taser would have been just as incensed if he'd manhandled her to the ground so there's really no point in continuing this argument.

I'm pretty much against tasers being used against anybody when there is any other option.

hardly incensed here - like i said, no real sympathy for old lady here. dude's just lazy imho and is lucky he didn't kill her.

maybe his logic was that she's gonna die soon anyways, so why the hell not?

nah

lol okay now hystericalpants

dan p. totally creeping me out itt

thread can be redeemed if we start discussing the taser noises she makes
not quite grape lady, not quite crazy german gamer, not quite wilhelm scream

What a horrible disaster for POLICE this is.

I'm pretty much against tasers being used against anybody when there is any other option.

― Alex in SF, Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:00 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hardly incensed here - like i said, no real sympathy for old lady here. dude's just lazy imho and is lucky he didn't kill her.

― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:04 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

feelin both of these.

Dan P totally not having sympathy for white people who act stupid when confronted by police, especially when trading on "I'm entitled to act this way" nonsense that would get him shot if it hadn't been drilled into his head at a young age not to be a fucking idiot

we have liftoff

The people who are incensed that this cop used his taser would have been just as incensed if he'd manhandled her to the ground so there's really no point in continuing this argument.

― 1899 Horsey Horseless (HI DERE), Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:59 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark

nope

funny noise discussion not gonna happen huh?

y'all are assuming that any sort of manhandling would have resulted in gross brutality, when i'm guessing that ~actually~ taking the step from ordering her to comply ---> forcing compliance physically might have been enough to get her to stop resisting

white people

tasering = stuff white people like

http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2008/09/get-tasered-less-often.html

irl lol

tho just scanned pubmed, and it looks like the ppl most at risk for VF are cokeheads, so

that stuff white people do blog bears further discussion; this KFC ad always struck me as odd too:
http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2009/06/perpetually-think-of-asian-americans-as.html

which cokeheads, white or non-white

thot only white ppl could afford coke

I'm entitled to afford this coke

I'd like to tase the world to shriek in perfect harmony

i might just slap my kneecap off if forks posts another link to that high-larious blog

don't hyperlink me, bro

crutches ahoy
http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2009/05/think-that-racism-is-okay-if-youre.html

man this got fun while i was eatin a sandwich

http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2001/09/forks-clove-tofu-sandwiches.html

The police sell tasering as an alternative to deadly force. That's how they sell the weapon to the public, and that's how they should use it. He didn't even TRY to cuff her. The idea of a cop using a taser on an unarmed person before even trying to detain the person is fucked (whether they are 72 years old or 22 years old). It's a weapon that causes extreme pain and sometimes death and shouldn't be used as a shortcut.

He didn't even TRY to cuff her.

u sure?

he didn't try very hard

whatever though, he told her no fewer than ten times that she would be tased if she didn't comply and stop resisting. she wanted it

saying he is going to do it does not necessarily make it proper procedure or necessary

but yeah grandma was totally begging for it lol

did u see what she was wearing????

fubu, i think

The police sell tasering as an alternative to deadly force. That's how they sell the weapon to the public, and that's how they should use it.

I'm so not even going to watch or try to decode the video here, but this here strikes me as true and kind of an issue -- there's been this definite bleed from tasering as a means of incapacitating patently dangerous individuals to tasering as just a routine method of control. I don't know that the intentions behind this are particularly cruel ones -- I assume police officers just feel it's safer and more efficient to tase people than to get into a physical struggle -- but that seems like a definite and maybe problematic slip in usage.

^^^^ this

i'm not incensed by this because oh no an old lady might've had a heart attack (unlikely), but that the officer was lazy and bypassed all kinds of SOP and went straight to something that's supposed to be a reasonable alternative to shooting someone with a gun

I agree that this is a problem.

This does not change my opinion that the woman in that video should not be particularly surprised that she got tased, particularly since she was warned multiple times and she tried to get into her car and drive away after the officer attempted to cuff her to bring her into custody.

whatever though, he told her no fewer than ten times that she would be tased if she didn't comply and stop resisting. she wanted it

dude

didn't know we were debating whether or not the woman was surprised, thought it had more to do with whether or not the cop was acting correctly

obv she wasnt surprised she asked for it

the sound she made was "thank you"

why am i not surprised that this happened in Texas of all places

haha yeah I can definitely also share Dan's reaction, though I guess that's based on a personal pfft reaction to people who walk around thinking they're allowed to get all assertive and non-compliant with cops -- haha if I'm gonna walk around being weirdly nervous around law enforcement, then everyone else has to, too

I guess this thread never went over the non-taser-related video of the Oklahoma state troopers who pulled over an ambulance and then wound up getting in a minor fight with the EMTs

haha, i heard about that

tho maybe not 'haha' because wasn't there some fallout for the patient, iirc? like, they died?

^ want to see

xpost

i dunno i thought it was supposed to be a chance to laugh at some stupid bitch getting tased...you guys always seem to want to turn everything into some overarching narrative where all cops are short-fused weak links in the american system who should take kindly to be shown up by someone when he's trying to do his job

xposts

wait the ambulance was actually taking someone to the hospital??? WTF?

xpost

eh sorry that was in another language but w/e

xp to myself

make it stop

indeed

a chance to laugh at some stupid bitch getting tased.
a chance to laugh at some stupid bitch getting tased.
a chance to laugh at some stupid bitch getting tased.
a chance to laugh at some stupid bitch getting tased.
a chance to laugh at some stupid bitch getting tased.
a chance to laugh at some stupid bitch getting tased.

I don't know, I never saw any follow-up -- the whole thing was just strange. To be honest nobody in it acted particularly egregiously (compared to my expectations, anyway), but you would think that if you pulled over an ambulance for not having sirens on and there turned out to be a patient inside, you'd be able to sort out a quick solution -- e.g., I dunno, how about we'll escort you to the hospital and then deal with it afterward? Maybe?

kevin I think the only "overarching narrative" really being pressed has nothing to do with individual cops and is more about general police practice with regard to when and how tasers are used, which is a pretty legitimate thing to be interested in

good one forks

i am simply holding the mirror, the dance you do is yours alone

i personally think we should be concerned with how the police do their jobs pretty much all the time, but whatever

A perceived obscene finger gesture apparently sparked a May 24 confrontation and scuffle between a state trooper and paramedic in Okfuskee County.

The Oklahoma Highway Patrol on Monday released reports from two troopers involved in the incident with Creek Nation paramedics who were taking a woman to the hospital in Prague. Reports also were filed by paramedics Maurice White Jr. and his partner, Paul Franks, who was driving the ambulance.

A trooper, Daniel Martin, said he was heading to Paden to aid the Okfuskee County sheriff’s office on a stolen-vehicle call.

Martin said he had his emergency lights and siren on when he encountered the ambulance in front of him, which failed to yield to his cruiser until contacted by radio. The ambulance was not running lights and siren.

Once on the scene of the stolen-car report in Paden, Martin said he saw the ambulance pass and observed Franks extend his left hand out the window with his middle finger raised.

Martin said he later chased the ambulance until it pulled over. Once he got out of his cruiser, he said he was trying to talk to Franks when he saw White get out of the ambulance and slammed the "door in a hostile manner.”

Martin said White kept getting between them, despite repeatedly being told by the trooper to back off.

White said the trooper bolted out of his car in a huff and yelled at Franks, "What do you mean flipping me off?”

White said the trooper would not allow them to continue taking the woman to a hospital and settle the matter there.

Martin said White kept getting in his way, and finally Martin tried to arrest White for obstructing an officer. That sparked the first of two scuffles as Martin said he tried to arrest White but the paramedic threw up his arms to resist the arrest.

The trooper said only when White got back into the ambulance was he able to speak with Franks. Martin said Franks assured him he did not give the trooper the gesture and apologized for not yielding.

The trooper then walked back to the ambulance and tried to tell White he would be arrested once he arrived at the hospital. White was wanting to file charges against the trooper on an allegation of assaulting a paramedic.

Another scuffle ensued, and Martin said White grabbed him around the neck, refusing to let go. Martin said he applied a choke hold on White’s neck to release the grip.

With White calmed, Martin said he told the paramedics to go to the hospital and he would follow.

Martin blamed White for the episode, claiming that if he were allowed to speak with Franks uninterrupted, none of it would have happened.

Franks was ultimately given a written warning for failure to yield.

White was not arrested.

there *are* general guidelines, though, about tasing. whether or not every police department follows them i can't say, but the Sherriff in the county where this happened has already said he's disgusted by it

Travis County Sheriff Greg Hamilton issued a statement on Wednesday saying when he watched the video he was, "in awe of what happened." The video made national headlines and the Sheriff said he wasn't only surprised but disagrees with what unfolded. Still, the Deputy's superiors stand behind the Deputy and his actions.

was she not a stupid bitch getting tased? i didn't laugh, but i sure didnt shed a tear for her. whatever though, im not contributing to this circular trollfest anymore

xps

are you ok, man?

"in awe of what happened." Not sure how to read that exactly.

had a very pleasant interaction with a mpls cop last week---ticket notwithstanding---that served as a reminder that they're not all short-fused weak links in the american system. some of them are friendly minnesotan dudes who are intrigued and amused by street racing bicycles even tho it is kind of illegal-ish

also, not that it's at all relevant, but most ambulances do ~not~ run lights and sirens when they are on the way TO the hospital

as in it's awesome to see a stupid bitch get tased

ftr no one has keyboard catted this yet as far as I can tell so perhaps we aren't completely done as a society

(NB from the video section of that paramedics thing I've seen, I said nobody's being "particularly egregious" because it's basically four guys all telling each other to settle down, with occasional shoving when any two of them start getting mad and the other two pull them apart and tell everyone to settle down -- basically just a mess, with the patient's family yelling into the mess that maybe they should get going. It's completely stupid on the trooper's parts, though, because they are putting the patient's life and health behind their desire to assert authority and win an argument ... it plays out like really run-of-the-mill posturing shit with everyone trying to yell reasonably at one another.)

most ambulances do ~not~ run lights and sirens when they are on the way TO the hospital

wait wait -- you mean this only if they have a stable patient and it's no big hurry, right? I mean, if they're going to drive in any way you wouldn't drive a normal vehicle, they need a siren on so people will know

I had a very pleasant conversation with an off duty cop working security a few months ago and was interested to hear about his work. It's the first time I'd had the experience of chatting with a police officer for 30 minutes or so.

I find police work and the work of first responders in general fascinating. Always have. They deal with the things in this world that I try hard to avoid. I have a lot of respect for cops. It's a really difficult job, and I bet most do it reasonably well or very well.

Just saying...

xpost

kevin keller u need a time out

Travis County Sheriff Greg Hamilton

fwiw this guy is a fucking dick and i don't trust a word that comes out of either side of his mouth

shit getting heated

cosign xxp

wait wait -- you mean this only if they have a stable patient and it's no big hurry, right? I mean, if they're going to drive in any way you wouldn't drive a normal vehicle, they need a siren on so people will know

― nabisco, Thursday, June 11, 2009 3:53 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

well, here's the thing: there's actually a significant risk to the patient when driving hellbent for leather, sirens or no. can't recall the exact figure, but i want to say that 1 in 6000 ambulance trips will end in a car accident. so, a lot of the time running code (sirens) is discouraged as it might make things more dangerous. even more dangerous, ironically, are police escorts: cruiser blows an intersection, the ambulance trailing, but traffic resumes because "hey, the cop's already thru, let's go!" and WHAM

the list of omg get to the hospital ASAP stuff is actually pretty short when compared to the list of stuff people ride in ambulances for.

!!!

I thought the point of a police escort was that you had cars/motorcycles leapfrogging you and blocking off upcoming intersections

xpost and gbx explained it better than i did lol running the siren its kind of like tasen bitches riskier than u think

!!!

I thought the point of a police escort was that you had cars/motorcycles leapfrogging you and blocking off upcoming intersections

― sorry i poisoned u with nachos :( (HI DERE), Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:03 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

that's assuming you've got like a real-deal escort. if it's just a cop car driving in front of you, shit is def more dangerous.

oh yeah, I wouldn't even call that a "police escort", more like "police showing off in front of you"

right, but i think that, as a practice, it was pretty common before ppl figured out that it was sorta stupid. no one EVER gets presidential-style 5 cops on motorbikes corking intersections escorts. for a dude with a gunshot wound? LOL

oh, when I said police should "escort" them to the hospital I just meant, like, take them there in some kind of "visual custody" and then deal with them afterward

that all makes sense re: sirens, and maybe I'm misunderstanding how this one incident started, but it seemed like the issue was that the ambulance behaved (or failed to yield) in a way you'd normally have to put on sirens to do? (I mean it also appears that this didn't matter to anyone but the troopers and the troopers were worried less about public safety than having EMTs respect them, but still, it's legitimate that you can't do certain things without sirens on)

clearly I was talking about the platonic ideal of a "police escort"; I kind of ignored that ambulances were involved in this specific case

is a platonic police escort the kind where you hug at the end of the night, but that's it?

nah just a firm handshake and they taze you in the balls

so it's like college then.

firm handshake and a friendly ball taze

that is a next level cup check

Sympathy here for Dan's POV about not being an idiot in front of cops BUT the cop brought the threat of using a taser to the table, which strikes me as relevant since cops shouldn't be idiots in front of US. They're trained in nonviolent restraint of the noncompliant far more intensively than Taser 101.

More recent tase funnies...

http://www.youtube.com/v/s5S4R6sHx9c

Oh shit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5S4R6sHx9c

Nice!

i was hoping for some footage of a post-lakers tasing. but i think the cops were too scared to venture into the melee.

only british cops would yell TASER TASER TASER like they were in a disco or something

SHOUTING
TASER TASER TASER TASER
MEGA MEGA WHITE THING

the hot new single from 'cop with glow stick'

This taser story isn't funny:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/07/21/australia.taser.fire/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

"He has an extensive record of very violent behavior toward police and people," Munnee said of the man. "He's not Mother Teresa or the Pope."

What is WITH people pouring gasoline over themselves???

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3112/2829097273_29e41176c5.jpg

lol at 51 across in todays ny times crossword puzzle

you sb'd the whole puzzle?

This taser story isn't funny:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/07/21/australia.taser.fire/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:47 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

then why did i hem hem burst into laughter upon reading the headline

because yr 12?

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/bromance-and-the-hills-star-tasered-during-bar-fight-with-joe-francis-9449.php

http://www.myeyewitnessnews.com/news/local/story/Police-Used-Taser-on-10-Year-Old-Girl-in-Arkansas/TmJF90vcV0iCT_hYQHl1Gg.cspx?rss=59

apparently he did not like being kicked in the nuts. huh.

so basically everything in that story from head to toe is fucked up

kudos to the parents for using their emotionally-disturbed child as a weapon against each other btw

Now the town's mayor is calling for an investigation into whether the Taser use was appropriate.

WTF is wrong with this people???

http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-times/

what ever happened to dont taze me bro kid

lolcops xpost

The kid attends my university!

He walked into the newsroom yesterday.

don't leave us hanging bro

I wasn't here, but my boss told me he tried to lecture students on "real" journalism. "The New York Times doesn't report news; it MAKES it." He was asked to leave before the secretary called Public Safety. I'm pretty sure he wanted more punishment.

"don't tape us, bros"

http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/06/will-we-allow-recording-police.html
http://gizmodo.com/5553765/are-cameras-the-new-guns

ah fer fux sake

increasingly widespread* videorecording of cops was one of the few aspects of america 2k10 that made me sorta proud. ohhhh lord ACLU, supreme court, please talk to these suckers.

*: relatively speaking, and with obvious social/class disparities -- good luck if yr e.g. a homeless dude without a videophone

Devo says "don't tase me, bro" on their new album

<3

Don't tase me, bro.

bzzt

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2010/08/kid_pushes_cop.html

smart guy

I can't believe it, the cops totally overreacted and definitely violated this kid's rights. And right in front of the Hummus Corner, too.

Is that a misspelling of human commissioner?

'tase me bro', essentially

There's a hummus meme going on all over the Brooklyn Vegan comments section and I have no idea where it started or what it means

\b\vegan

"Don’t merchandize-taze us, Hasbro"

this needs to be our rolling "police and prosecutor overreach and violence" thread. balko links go here!

because this one really set me off. holy fuck

http://www.theagitator.com/2011/02/17/the-criminalization-of-borat/

guy seems like a total moron but I can't see how those charges will stick

i can totally see them sticking!

He used to visit our newsroom fairly often in 2009 and '10.

it's not like being put up for a felony child sex offense doesn't ruin your damn life anyway...

xp, who did?

sweet jesus felony 20years????

i can totally see them sticking!

I dunno - it hinges on the jury accepting that his overdubbing constitutes the creation of child pornography. which seems kinda tricky to pull off to me

I guess it could tho... kinda depends on what he overdubbed I suppose

http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/09/15/3371906/fort-worth-man-gets-life-sentence.html#my-headlines-default

man shoplifts a walmart

knocks over a man running out of the store

the knocked-over man dies of "end-stage liver cirrhosis"

jury convicts the shoplifter of aggravated robberty

the judge sentences him to life.

the penultimate justice

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

http://bcove.me/vye7vkom

trainwreck 20 y/o gets it. review board clears cop. officer staunchly claims he'd def do it again.

WHAT. THE. FUCK. ???

Breaking news:

Lancashire police apologise after blind man with white stick was Tasered by officers who mistook it for samurai sword. More details soon...

Well that's a perfectly reasonable mistake

Oh wait a second, IT'S NOT

C'mon, he might have been Zatoichi. Can't be too careful with this kind of thing. Police just did what any of us would have done in the same situation IMO.

They're heroes, really.

Tbh if I'd known one of the perks was tasing the blind, I'd have gone to the police academy years ago

Can't imagine how terrifying this must have been, fuck

Apparently the police were investigating reports of a man carrying a sword and some trigger-happy PC tasered this old guy instead. Saw from behind that he was carrying something, shouted at him to stop and when he didn't, he got zapped and cuffed.

Come on guys, we're not getting the whole story here.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__gI1_0QOxMI/SX1RkU8S0JI/AAAAAAAAAnU/kWTlrhSAUXM/s320/Blind_Fury.jpg

http://www.hanzoswords.com/assets/images/blind_zatoichi_affordable.jpg

First they came for the flash mobbers...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N8znhEhxl3s

The rack in the middle is good, not great.

― The Internet, The Twenty-First Century 1:04 PM Bookmark Flag Post

"Cosby quips to security, 'Don't tase me, bro' before court"

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/12508d0cb56a4984bbef27dcbe2f6160

He's still got it

anyone who says 'don't tase me bro' should be instantly tasered imo