This is a thread for ILXors in their 30's!!! yo yo yo breakdancing etc...

I think I'm "emo" only I don't know what that is

You have that haunted look in your soul.

so glad i was not 30sthing in the 80s

i am at the peak of 30something o_O

I am only about a year away from NOT being 30something anymore. ;_;

I am the apotheosis of thirty

What is wrong, in my life, that those thirtysomethings at the top look so much older than I feel? Will I ever feel grown up? Is it foolish to want to?

I walk around the grocery store with baby in a baby carrier. A person i know sees me and says, "you're one of those, aren't you?"

that one dude in 30something looks like bjorn borg

x-post -- And then that person posted on the 'Society is in the gutter' thread.

What is wrong, in my life, that those thirtysomethings at the top look so much older than I feel?

Kids?

Nope, I don't feel like I'm in my 30s any more. I feel like I'm 40 already.

I don't feel like either of those pictures.

I think I feel more like...

http://www.sheridoty.com/images/illustration/OldWomanReading600.jpg

Things a thirtysomething year old has:

VHS Tapes
Old zines
Issues of RIP and SPIN in same box.
10" records
Telephone/Radio/Alarm Clock
Gift card to Lowe's
Bottle of Mr. Bubble next to pine tar shampoo

sup?

it is very hard for me to understand that i am in my 30s and that i have 10+ years of experience in the career zone i wld prefer to be in and that i am good at it! in a recent job interview i had to psych myself up beforehand by reminding myself of this fact. oh and i guess it's true i'm in my 30s because i actually care about more career stuff now, eh

wait they don't make 10" records anymore?

I care less about a "career" than I did 10 years ago!

Actually no that's not true at all sorry

haha my friend had an "i'm 30!!" crisis and started skateboarding again.

(xpost) I have less of a career than I did ten years ago, but possibly I have more of a career that I actually care about now.

people in their 30's in the 80's looked much older than the 30's of the 00's

increased sunscreen use

We saw teenagers sing along to a U2 song and realized we were teens when it was a hit and that those teenagers had not even been born. ARGH! This is all confusing and makes me feel OOOOOOOOOOOLD. hahah

Now imagine your daughters learning about U2!

(xpost) Someone who was born the year I left school would have left school last year...

My wife (7 years my junior) is jealous that I got to be a teen in the 80s. I think she's envisioning some Oingo Boingo party thing when it was really all Commodore 64, D&D, horror flix and metal.

You mean it wasn't?

there are people IN COLLEGE right now who were born in 1990.

1990.

haha my friend had an "i'm 30!!" crisis and started skateboarding again.

Did I tell you I bought a mattress from J@s0n Ra1nwat3r the other day? He's the manager at a Back to Bed in Lincoln Park.

pj, just tell your wife that the 80's mostly sucked. I mean, we all wish it was video games and breakdancing on street corners, but really a lot of it was grim.

"there are people IN COLLEGE right now who were born in 1990.

1990."

yeah and I TA for some of them and they talk to me almost as if they are going to address me as "sir"

=(

oh yeah, 30 and in college LOL

i breakdanced on street corners! and played a lot of coleco-vision and nintendo!

I would breakdance but I might do myself some kind of mischief. I have one dance move, and I still haven't got that right

there are people IN COLLEGE right now who were born in 1990

Oh I know that -- I process library cards for 'em all the time now! More en route. Couple more years and they'll've been born the year I first came here for grad school.

And then soon after that they'll be saying things like "the 20th century? man, I wasn't even born then!"

I like that, though! It's as it should be.

Kids born right now are in a world where there has never not been an iPhone, for instance. (And, maybe next year, where there's never not been a president Obama, say.)

I've actually wondered to myself, "I wonder if Beeps will tape songs off the radio like I did" before catching myself.

hahaha no jaymc, you didn't! awesome. I haven't heard from him and his ilk in many a year. M@tt Pr1ce and him stole D@n Sp1nab3lla's (aka the skateboarder I mentioned above) dad's credit card and went on a spree, and that was pretty much the end of that. Tim Mur@ri stopped by a few years after that, chubbier than ever, and said him and Jason were working at some mattress store in the city. Did he recognize you? Go back there and kick him in the pants for me.

xpost -- and then she'll look at you funny when you absent-mindedly say that in a few years and go back to calling up a song via her ear implant.

LOL I skated Alameda on Saturday.

To be honest it was the first time I've skated in a while but still rofflez.

when my seven year old son says things like, "I don't like that sweatshirt, it's hip-hop style," I lose it. When I was a kid it was your nice clothes and your playclothes, dammit.

I went skateboarding for the first time in ages a couple years ago because the new town has a skateboard park. Being 32 at the time I prudently waited until my new health insurance had kicked in first.

Did he recognize you?

Nope. I didn't recognize him, either, until he gave me his business card, and I was like, wait a minute, where'd you go to high school? He said he didn't even remember my name, which isn't too surprising since we barely crossed paths. You don't forget a last name like Ra1nwat3r, though.

Being 32 at the time I prudently waited until my new health insurance had kicked in first.

haha! radical.

(so jaymc, did he look like a druggie? well wait, what mattress store manager doesn't)

And then soon after that they'll be saying things like "the 20th century? man, I wasn't even born then!"

This makes me want to curl up in a chair with a bottle of single malt and a glass.

I still have my old video tapes with the Cure and Howard Jones and whatnot on them, I even watch them sometimes!
And some 10" records.
Thankfully I never had big hair. But I did have a Nik Kershaw shirt =(

Wait, when don't you want to curl up in a chair with a bottle of single malt and a glass? That sounds lovely.

wait what happened to 10" records?

Weren't they only ever a bit of a novelty thing anyway? I have a PWEI one.

have i told y'all about my big ten inch record?

there's plenty of new 10" records around

this one? xp

http://cdn.last.fm/coverart/130x130/2314091.jpg

REMEMBER WHEN RONALD REAGAN KILLED ALL SEMBLANCE OF PROGRESSIVISM IN THIS COUNTRY LOL NOSTALGIA

FRANKIE SAY DEINSTITUTIONALIZATION

i remember waking each morning excited to read the next chapter in the intricate lives of my favorite family, the pattersons, in the comic strip for better or worse THE FIRST TIME AROUND

whoops, that was me there

hai

turning 30 was awesome!!

wonder what's goin on over in that 20s thread. so young and tres stupide, eh?!

I bought a 10" record just to say I owned one.

I think I've been enjoying my 30s more than I did my 20s, although "enjoying" is maybe not the right word there, but it'll do.

i like my thirties so far. i'm enjoying life more than i did in my twenties. (modern medicine may have something to do with this.)

xpost

30s are pretty good. Getting better as my kids get older and more independent, too!

The decade's been great aside from the bits that weren't (small in number, happily). I dunno, I'm just kinda relaxed about it all.

My 15-yr-old nephew thinks the newer Star Wars movies are superior to the old ones.

And why shouldn't he? (I'm not being flippant at all, I just wouldn't be surprised at that -- then again you might not be surprised either!)

I'm not surprised, it's just one of those things that expresses the gulf between us. Like the way he has a better mobile than I do.

I'm kind of surprised that you have a 15-year-old nephew!

Not as surprised as I am that my younger brother is also in his 30s now.

Yeah I still think of my little brothers as just that - even though both are in their 30s, married, with 2 kids each. They're further along the "grown up" path than I'll ever be! Tch no wonder they dont take me seriously.

Trayce, I love N Kershaw too. Still do. Remember how I drooled at the little midget. haha

Kids born right now are in a world where there has never not been an iPhone, for instance.

Dude, I know! When my daughter says:"That's mama's ipod." I freaked out at first realizing how different the world is for her. I am already thinking of her having an email address and chatting with strangers. Parents never had to do this back in the 80s: inside they were safe 'n' sound. Although I realize that's my old age talking, as I 'm sure kids now are accustomed to the dangers and on the whole know how to protect themselves.

1976 MOTHERFUCKERS

I've got lots of 10" records! I even have a triple 10" (Tall Dwarfs 3 EP's).

Yeah, two words to anyone who thinks the 80s were a giant party time to be a teenager in: Reagan. Thatcher.

I remember the world before the internet. I can remember getting our first personal computer in the home. I remember PEN PALS. That you wrote to with actual PENS!!! I remember the first time I saw a floppy disc it seemed magical. The first time I saw a 3" disc, not to. I remember when CDs were supposed to be magical things that lasted forever. I remember Betamax, for f*cks sake.

i breakdanced last year, to try and distract a couple of mates who were arguing. They laughed for a few minutes, but then went back to arguing.

I'm starting to get a bad back.

I don't even relate to mine own generation. What hope is there for me?

Oh, and my knees aren't what they were.

I get pains in my kidneys if I drink too much.

And I swear I never used to have this ringing in my ears.

My feet have gone all veiny.

Pen pals! OMG I had heaps. My first 2 boyfriends were penpals I ended up meeting! LOL proto-internet dating.

I had an Italian pen-friend, she wrote me to in Italian...I couldn't understand a word of it, so I asked my Italian teacher - Mr. O'Hara - to translate for me, and he just laughed. The letters were always on pink scented paper. Proto story of my life. I wonder if she is on Facebook now?

Ah, I do miss snail mail. I still have shoeboxes full of letters from friends.

We used to make an artform out of addressing envelopes. It become a problem when they started getting returned by the post office as illegible. How we'd pass along clippings from music magazines, with letters written on the back of them. I do miss that.

The only bit I managed to translate was that she didn't like Europe, because they were offensive.

I would volunteer that we should start an ILX0r penpal service to send spangly letters to one another... but, being in my 30s, I don't really have the time to send letters any more. Life doesn't come with a study hall period to waste decorating envelopes any more. :-(

The decade's been great aside from the bits that weren't (small in number, happily). I dunno, I'm just kinda relaxed about it all.

My sentiments exactly. I'm turning 38 in a couple weeks, and I don't really have a sense of "age" these days. Sure, getting close to 40 and not being married/with kids is on my mind, but it's not really bothersome, and I feel as comfortable in my own skin as I ever have.

I have some 10" records too! And I still have my Intellivision console somewhere :/

Sure, getting close to 40 and not being married/with kids is on my mind, but it's not really bothersome

Same here, the occasional twinge but I think that's more due to societal conditioning and expectation. (See also house ownership as a purported sign of maturity -- not out here, I think!)

But Ned, how can you pass on spending all of your money on home improvements instead of CDs and obsessively watching HGTV?

I feel better already.

Have any of you noticed a slight... difference between this thread and the 40s thread?

Um... what happens to ILX females after they hit 39? Do we DIE or something? Or just turn invisible? I'm a-scared. Somebody hold me!

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2008/stylewatch/gallery/onsetstyle/kim_cattrall.jpg

oh well.

...or just start lying and carry on posting in this thread?

^^^ that's the ticket

My biggest fear is that I won't be able to think of myself as a sad young man for much longer.

angry young man => => => bitter old man! Hurrah!

I'm in my mid thirties, and it's so funny to hear other mid 30s folks say "oh I am so old", because I'm still the youngest person I work with, and my professional friends are all in their 50s and 60s. So I feel very young, and think of aging as a good thing, since it means that you'll have learned more (supposing that you want to learn).

one of the fun things about growing up is getting to watch certain once-admired personality types age right along with you and look more sad and desperate the less they change.

and finding out that fortysomethings can be hot

hey guys... i'm new to your club...
... fuck you guys ihateyouall!

ok. ok. i'm sorry. didn't mean to lash out there.
this being old thing is sort of taking it's toll on me here.

all my friends are turning into that 30 something pic, sadly.

i was at a bbq on saturday, and while i've been long used to being one of the sole single people there it looks like i'm going to have to get used to be being one of the few childless people in my peer group.

bummer.

is it possible you have some bastard children somewhere?

well, i view it as a mixed blessing.

xpost (i give myself 50/50 odds on that one)

god, even the type treatment of "thirty something" makes me want to barf.

i remember my parents watching it when i was a kid and wondering why they would watch a show about such miserable people.

i mean, they already had the news for that kind of shit!

You ever play that game to see how much closer one year is to ancient history than to the present?

For example, 9/11/01 is now closer in history to the OKC bombing than it is to today. MLK's "I Have A Dream" speech is closer to the end of WWI than it is to now.

Anyway, my birthyear 1973 is closer to Pearl Harbor, FDR's third term, and the opening of Gone With the Wind and the Wizard of Oz than it is to the present-day.

that seems like not the funnest game

it looks like i'm going to have to get used to be being one of the few childless people in my peer group.

I'm actually pretty fortunate in that respect, as I have many friends around my age without kids. Almost half/half, I think!

everyone who hasn't cranked up production on the baby making machines seems to have moved away this year.

is it possible you have some bastard children somewhere?

possible, though highly unlikely that they wouldn't have asked for child support.

Alternatively you can think about whether you're closer to the day of your death than you are to the day of your birth!

that version sounds a bit like glass half full/half empty

if genetics and an extened misspent youth/early adulthood are any indication i'm way closer to one than the other.

You ever play that game to see how much closer one year is to ancient history than to the present?

-- Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:45 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

I depress myself by working out whether people I meet are close to my kids age than mine. As of now, anyone under 21 is closer to my son than me, and I will refuse to speak to them because of the generation gap.

I am in my 30s. I like it okay. It seems like a good period of life. There's some of the energy and health of youth, but you also know a bit more about what you're doing, have the experience to do it confidently and effectively, and no longer have to feel fraudulent about presenting yourself as an adult person. This all seems okay by me. I buy Oxford shirts instead of hoodies, and pants with creases that require ironing. (Thus far the clothes are the best part of being in the 30s, really.) I haven't bought a cup of coffee with dimes in quite a while. I don't feel the least bit unreasonable over calling the crappy new bar at the end of the block and telling them their PA system is too loud, and why do they have a PA system anyway -- because I'm older and no longer assume that I'm the odd one out for objecting to something. I have a story or comment about most topics people might mention, but I'm not so old that my story is dated and boring and has to include parenthetical comments about what technology we did or did not have back when the story was taking place. I know most of the problems that will present themselves to me, day to day, and I know the best way to solve them. I feel less risk, like if I've managed to be myself this long then it's unlikely that I will be ruined and changed into someone else. It no longer feels bothersome or burdensome or hard to remember to take care of myself; I can do things like exercise every day, not because I'm subjecting myself to it to accomplish something, but because it actually feels satisfying and worthwhile to have the habit. I no longer have to think of anyone as being of a wildly separate age group from me; even with very old men, well, they are just standing over at the other end of the process of becoming an old man I'm undertaking, but there's no big set mountain of change between us. It's only been a year, really, but I don't mind the thirties yet; they seem pretty okay.

l;r

My version of that game is that we're now just as far from 1988 as we were from 1968 in 1988. That just doesn't seem right. '68 and that whole era was already mythologized and its heroes were dead and the footage of it was all grainy and saturated and it was ANCIENT HISTORY. Hell, the late 70s seemed like ancient history. People wore funny clothes and had funny hairstyles. I can't imagine a 10 year old in 2008 looking back at '88 or '98 and having a similar feeling about as 10 yr old me did about '68 or '78.

L is 10 in a couple of months. we were watching footage of the '88 Olympics together and I can easily imagine that would have looked to him like Mexico '68 looks to me.

All my kids are aghast that there was a world before Wikipedia.

that whole era was already mythologized

http://365bestdays.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/wedding-singer.gif

and its heroes were dead

http://images.usatoday.com/weather/_photos/2006/05/17/inside2-appeoplepilatus.jpg

and the footage of it was all grainy and saturated

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZEGHnAxEpo

and it was ANCIENT HISTORY

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m76/DrewziG71/eighties.jpg

hahaha Ned. yeah it's easier to compare 88 to 68 than 98 to 78 w/r/t this game.

I mainly just struggled to get my head around the fact that "the sixties" were pretty recent history when I was a kid.

Now that I'm 37 it's odd to see what I already have in common with people in their 40s, and also disorienting to have conversations about music or art or politics with lots of people in their 20s. Not a huge gap, but not nothing either. Often we reach the same conclusions but from opposite ends, and the points of reference keep getting cumulatively richer for me but it's a conversational obstacle if you bring too many references up with much younger people. I guess the best thing about talking to people far older and far younger than you is that your own presumptions get tested quickly and frequently (if you let it sink in- won't happen if you're just ranting and spouting, which, of course, goes for them too).

nabisco thinks about his thirties like he's already fifty

I'm excited about the end of this decade. XXX9 years are always some sort of weird mix of the two decades they fall between.

Sunny had the old school rap channel on our cable the other day, where they play music on top of still photographs of the artist with dumb trivia underneath it ("LL Cool J stood for 'Ladies Love Cool James'.")

Kool Moe Dee was on there with his leather cap and oversized shades, and it was so not-80's, but not-90's either.

Also see episodes of "WKRP in Cincinnati", Led Zeppelin II, and Harry S. Truman's second term.

And yeah, I remember what a big deal it was for Sgt. Pepper being released for the first time on CD in 1987 ("It was twenty years ago today...")

And last summer, it was twenty years ago that it was twenty years ago.

I expect a lot more than that from my 50s, Tombot! If it took me to my 50s to learn how to exercise and iron my pants and make good small talk, I'd feel like something had gone slightly wrong with my life.

(xxpost) not 80's, not quite 90's either...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a1/Nirvana-Bleach.jpg/200px-Nirvana-Bleach.jpg
Not so much the album, more their look at the time. I can't find that group picture where Kurt has really long hair, but you know what I mean?

xp haha nabisco makes everybody feel like something has gone slightly wrong with their lives.

cheers.

no no nabisco I meant that your ruminations on your thirties struck me as if you'd already lived through them

Not this picture either, but this is pretty much what I mean...
http://www.solarnavigator.net/music/music_images/Nirvana_band_members.jpg

btw if you have to iron your pants you're either buying the wrong kind or storing them incorrectly

Oh, gotcha. The topic seems to call for some kind of thoughtful response. I only just turned 31, though, so I wouldn't exactly trust me on the topic of what one's 30s are like.

PP otm re:XXX9. see also: kid rock's breakout and de la soul: 3 ft. high & rising

i can't believe nabisco is younger than i am! only by a year, but still...

I am also surprised by this.

Well into my 30s I still rarely iron clothes. Time on this planet is growing short for me and I like to make better use of my time.

THANKS GUYS, GREAT THREAD TO TELL ME I SEEM OLD ON

I still buy hoodies and don't iron a goddamn thing. Maybe once I hit the big 3-1?

nab, i think i first met you in my mid-20s and you seemed about 5 years older than me then, so i'm basing my assumptions on a younger version of you -- does that make sense?

I'm taking a freshman 101 class right now and sat with a bunch of kids who are at least 15 years younger than me this morning. It was hilarious for them, like their first encounter with someone who isn't a teacher or older relative but isn't one of them.

"So do you all live in the dorms?"
"No, actually my wife and I own a house."
"Uh.....what year are you?"

That's kind of worse! But it reminds me of something I was just noticing the other day, about aging: more and more I find myself doing that thing where you shrug and say something like "oh, I dunno, I'm just a guy who is X" -- this sort of comfort that develops where you say yeah, this is who I am, this is what I do, this is what I hope to accomplish, and that's that.

As I was approaching 30 I probably experienced a lot more stress about what I was doing and what kind of successes I could get to, and I was a little afraid the 30s would be some big crushing slog to make that happen. Maybe it's just that as a result of that stress I started getting my goals in better order, but over the past year or so I've felt significantly less stressed about those things: I know what I'm working on, and really don't care much lately about meeting any standards or timelines apart from the ones I'm setting for myself.

I just turned 30 and between this thread and a couple of other recent thingies I'm pretty convinced our generation - the folks who are all 24-42 or so, at the moment - is about to be fucking crucial. for me being thirty is about realizing, for really dough, that I'm not going to be this that or the other thing, but that I CAN be this that and the other thing I wasn't necessarily considering before. I'm trying to be a civil servant, a bureaucrat, practically, because that's where I think I have a shot at shepherding things in a better direction. I'm considering the possibility of finally owning property. I'm going to settle in my town and do a job the best I can - these are things that hardly occured to me in my twenties, if at all. It was always "oh san francisco's awesome" or "how much of a pay cut could I tolerate to live in NYC" etc now I'm like I've seen a bit of the world and frankly I don't mind so much where I'm at, astronaut or bomb squad was out of the question from the get-go, let's do what we can. I hope I can spend part of this decade doing a little more than self-preservation in between misdirected hijinx, which is the story of the last decade - yes, military enlistment and failed marriage included - I'm even talking with the lady about going on one of those weeklong Habitat camps where you sleep on cots and build houses. I think I'm going to dig it, I think I'm finally coming out of this bizarre 29-30 transitionary period.

It all boils down to reading Vonnegut and having a completely different understanding than you had before, kinda.

btw starting with "it all boils down to" and ending with "kinda" is not a sentence construction I recommend to anyone, ever.

Surely I am not the only one for whom the passage of time seemed far different for my 20s than it is for my 30s. I swear that the time between age 22 and 29 was actually like 12 years.

Put another way, it seemed like I was in my 20s forever, while the 30s are clicking by really quickly.

Granny Dainger raises a fascinating point. Everything shot in the '70s and '80s is grainy and/or blurry. Most stuff that's shot now is in HD and won't deteriorate. If nothing swanky like 3D comes along in the next 20 years, footage won't age (apart from the fashions therein obv).

Recently I saw some Young Ones footage and it looked AWFUL. At the time, it was clear and crisp and tantalisingly lovely. I am 34.

"by the way I'm in my 30s"

I think the only thing I'm not enjoying about particularly my late 30s, is declining health, and a far reduced ability to cope with hammering the naughty substances. I'm at that tipping point where I either back off and start looking after myself diligently, or I go 'eh whatever' and risk ending up ill.

Its hard! I'm enjoying myself :(

in many ways i'm probably healthier now than i've been since my early 20s. i don't mind being over 30, i freaked out a bit at 31 but i'm pretty calm about it now, i cope with being the old guy by not trying even vaguely to be relevant

I hate the beer gut I've gotten but then I look at my bf who is only 24 and already has a beer gut outdoing mine and I dont worry so much haha.

I'm certainly fitter than I've ever been.

It's suddenly driving home the point of how much younger than me most of the sort of "traditional guard" of ILX is. That the 30s are still a recent experience for you, while I'm about to kiss them goodbye.

I know that sentance is really garbled, but I haven't had my coffee yet. That's one thing that REALLY decreases with age. The ability to function without sleep.

I always think that I'm spending more and more time these days feeling tired and lazy, but if i think about it a bit more I remember that this is also what i did during my 20's

The ability to function without sleep? I'm not sure it actually decreases that much, you just don't remember being that tired in retrospect.

No, no, I mean ability to *function*. I used to be able to be tired, but still put in a day's work or whatever. Now, if I don't sleep properly, I simply don't function. Can't concentrate, can't focus, can't have a cup of coffee and snap to it.

I think I function slightly better without sleep than I did in my twenties, but maybe that's just because I don't drink as much!

I had a similar blip in my mid-30s when I first stopped drinking so much, but that has now passed and the decline is back on. By the time I am 50, I will be sleeping 10 hours a day. (If the world is not consumed by Hadron supercollider or Mayan prophecies of ruin, and I'm not hit by a bus, etc.)

I thought as you get older you don't need as much sleep anyway. My grandma is up at 5am and goes to bed at midnight. Does that only kick in when you get to your 60s or something?

I think it varies according to metabolism. People in my family tend to need more sleep as they get older. If they don't get it at night, they'll nap during the day. (God I miss naps from being unemployed.)

Things that freak me out. I have tennis lesson from a guy who's 28. I'm pretty sure he's the little brat I would play against when I was 15 years old (and he about 7-ish). I now realize if I had continued I woul... Ah I gotta stop thinking this way. hah.

Penpals! Had tons of'em. My "best/longest" one wanted to meet up after about 7 years of writing. I knew that when we would meet up, it would be the end of it as the "magic" would be broken. We did meet up. We continued to write but after a year or so it just kinda watered down and that was that. Kinda sad but then we were already in our late teens and you sort of move on/grow up.

Less sleep? Bollox. I need my sleep but then my youngest has decided otherwise. LE SIGH. My gran - who might have Alzheimer - sleeps about 16 hours per day if I am guessing right.

Sometimes the magic was broken by meeting penpals. But in my experience, they translated into IRL friends. I ended up being roommates for several years with someone I met through the penpal circuit!

THANKS GUYS, GREAT THREAD TO TELL ME I SEEM OLD ON

Not old, wise. Take it as a compliment.

I'm totally where Tom is now. My days of city-hopping, failed marriages (well just the one), and career-switching are done and I'm content to just live and build the life I have. Although it has taken me to 35 to reach this point.

Also, talking about being around younger people, my new job is playing with my head as I'm now supervising 19 and 20 year olds. I realize I am the old person which is bizarre. It doesn't make me feel bad but just strange seeing myself through other people's eyes.

Perhaps they'll keep me young trying to keep up with their mad web skillz and crazy music.

Surely I am not the only one for whom the passage of time seemed far different for my 20s than it is for my 30s. I swear that the time between age 22 and 29 was actually like 12 years.

Put another way, it seemed like I was in my 20s forever, while the 30s are clicking by really quickly.

-- quincie, Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:43 PM (Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:43 PM) Bookmark Link

this is frighteningly OTM.

We're all forgetting the best part of being in your mid-30s:

No longer being in the key 18-34 Marketing demographic target.

No, that's the worst part. No one cares about your tastes anymore. It's much harder to find clothes that fit or movies you care about seeing in the slightest or culture that tweaks your interests. ;_;

my new job is playing with my head as I'm now supervising 19 and 20 year olds

Ha, that's been my life for eleven years -- so to me it's all 'oh yeah, right.' Some of my old student workers have been back in touch lately, it's interesting to see where they ended up.

No one cares about your tastes anymore.

Hooray! (Personally I'm more than fine with this, I just keep creating my own aesthetic.)

You ever play that game to see how much closer one year is to ancient history than to the present?

I'd never done this until reading a Philip Sherburne piece which pointed out that Kraftwerk's "Autobahn" was closer to the end of WWII (hell, next year it'll be closer to the start) and now I can't stop.

I was watching (nerd alert) a 1980s "Tomorrow's World" 25th anniversary programme at the weekend and said "hey, all these 60s clips they're showing are as old to them as this show itself is to us now, do you think they would've seemed more dated?" and there was a confused non-response. Uh, yeah, not the funnest game, I guess, but still.

I am not yet in my thirties but if you guys are going to talk about 10" records, VHS tapes, zines, Colecovision and joint pain then this seems more my kind of place than the 20s thread, so, uh, hi! Then again, if this is the thread for people who've got their lives in order and are no longer mystified by adulthood, uh... well, there's a hope for the next 2 years, I guess.

Emsk just shouted at me at lunch for saying that I was functionally 40. She kept saying NO, YOU ARE IN YOUR THIRTIES.

Only just. I'm closer to 40 than to 30. I'm closer to 40 than to 35 these days! I tend to have more in common with 42 year old people than I do with 32 year olds.

And I can't stand music festivals. But I don't think that's anything to do with my age. I'd go to one I could sit down in nice seats and have a break every half hour to go to the loo and get some ice cream. But that would be a play or an opera, not a gig.

No one cares about your tastes anymore.

Fine by me! I feel like less of a "lifestyle target" for heavy-handed marketeers of products and services that don't really enrich my life.

Mind you, I guess I'm in a new "lifestyle demo" (the 35+ homeowner), so I'm now a target for all sorts of other (expensive) shit.

Hahah, if they try that around here with me, they'll be sorely disappointed.

I need to write Emsk! It's been too long.

I generally ignore being marketed to - and the things that were supposedly marketed to "my" demographic didn't really hold much interest to me anyway. So I guess, actually, not much has changed.

But there's a difference between... this is marketed to me but I just don't care about it and "OK, I might as well just not exist as far as demographics go."

Surely I am not the only one for whom the passage of time seemed far different for my 20s than it is for my 30s. I swear that the time between age 22 and 29 was actually like 12 years.

Put another way, it seemed like I was in my 20s forever, while the 30s are clicking by really quickly.

yeah it's kind of fascinating and annoying all at once. Each year becomes a smaller percentage of your total life span as you age. When you're two, a year is half of your entire life, so it seems like forever - literally a lifetime. And it's the reason why the phrase "slow as Christmas" means nothing to me now.

Marketers for the "35+" demo can hit me over the head all they want about home improvements, furniture, luxury SUVs, vacation properties, and all manner of things I'm supposed to want, but 'I'm rubber, you're glue', etc...

Ned, when you started your job, weren't you closer to the age of your students?

Thinking about what is closer to what. . .it trips me out to realize that the rap I listened to when I was young is older to my nieces/nephews (Oh "backspin" channel, you make me cry) now than the Beatles my parents listened to when I was a child. How can the Beastie Boys have been making music longer than the Beatles? When did this happen?

i really don't think anyone ever really cared about my tastes and i always lie on any sort of marketing survey so that doesn't much matter to me.

Ned, when you started your job, weren't you closer to the age of your students?

Oh, of course! But there's a stasis when you work in a college, a useful one in many ways. I don't want to say that work here 'keeps you young' but by default you're always dealing both with your fellow staffers year-by-year as well as a constantly rotating cast of thousands generally between 18 to 22. It just feels normal, for lack of a better word.

The only thing that made me think "Hmm, yeah, time HAS passed" lately was realizing that when I was listening to the new Verve album the other day that the last one before that came out a few months after I started work here. And THAT does seem like a long time.

18-34 demographic? that's a huge group! you start being irrelevant once you're out of the 18-24 one. sorry guys!

massive xposts

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I get older and they keep staying the same age. .. or something like that.

No one cares about your tastes anymore.

This suits me as well. When I was in the 18-34 group, I didn't care about the "hip" stuff the marketeers were trying to push on me, and was vaguely annoyed that they thought we were all morons. It's actually a relief now that marketing departments don't consider me to be worth the cost of targeting their advertising towards.

(xxxxxpost to Rob Bolton) I think all of that stuff is a bit easier to tune out, as it's less about trying to appeal to people's personal/emotional insecurities as it is about "keeping up with the Jones'es"

but hey, realtors, investment planners, and AARP (why the hell have i started to get admail from these dudes?!) still care what you think, if that's any solace.

I did start to get some of that, but it stopped after about a year, I think the banks/etc. realised that I didn't have any money.

I was at a dinner party recently, and the topic turned to litmus tests to see whether someone was the sort of person you'd want to date or not. And this one young woman said "I like to ask what his favourite album is, I find that tells me a lot about a person." And I had to bite my tongue from saying "Wow, you really are 21, aren't you?"

I've got a good friend of mine who's a bit younger than me, complaining about the fact that his job didn't "inspire" him. I just laughed and said, "Yeah, that's why it's your JOB."

OTM-o-rama on this thread

I live near the University. The students get younger every year, I swear I don't get any older.

What about policemen? It's always the first sign of real aging when policemen start to look ridiculously young.

(College students have always seemed like kids to me - even when I was one.)

I was at a dinner party recently, and the topic turned to litmus tests to see whether someone was the sort of person you'd want to date or not. And this one young woman said "I like to ask what his favourite album is, I find that tells me a lot about a person." And I had to bite my tongue from saying "Wow, you really are 21, aren't you?"

Roffle. So otm. My friend and I were walking on a saturday evening. I noticed the young kids walking around in their "hip threads." I told my friend I didn't understand it nor could I read the "cues". My friend said that theur clothes were horrific. I replied that if these teenagers would hear, they'd be glad she said that. Then she added:"But my son would agree." I jokingly said her son had the mental age of a 40 year old. ;-) I sincerely hope my kids do sort of rebel and act young. That's what they are supposed to do. I sadly did that way too late.

That said, I do really like the fashion of young people nowadays even though I can not "read" it that well.

guys, michael jackson turns 50 today.

Such a down thread. What about all the cool stuff? The ability to go out without being carded? The extra salary you (probably) command? The heightened sex drive in women?

The ability to go out without being carded?

Hahah, I get carded all the time, trust me. I did get the extra salary, though, just the other day.

By "carded" you mean being asked for proof of age in a bar, right? That's never happened to me, even when I was 17/18. The extra salary though? Yeah, I'm, er... working on it...

I was carded for the first time on my 18th birthday and kicked out of the pub because they thought I had fake ID.

xxp Is that what we all have to look forward to? WAU.

The heightened sex drive in women?

The what now?

You are bang on your sexual peak ffs.

Tell that to my implanon implant *mutter*.

The heightened sex drive in women?

Yeah, I was going to ask about that one. Always assumed it was a myth to help women of a certain age get boyfriends.

The ability to go out without being carded?

on saturday i was at 7-11 picking up a 6 pack before a bbq. there were three cops in line behind me, when i got to the register there was a sign that says 'WE CARD ANYONE WHO APPEARS TO BE UNDER 40 YEARS OF AGE'. i did not get carded.

"14 YEAR OLD PASSES MEDICAL BOARD - KID DOCTOR CAN'T BUY BEER - CAN PRESCRIBE DRUGS"

No, it's that a woman reaches her sexual PEAK at age 39.

Peak != heightened sex drive, it's that sex is physically more enjoyable for older women. Supposedly.

Me, I can't remember.

(I think it has something to do with, like, multiple orgasms and the like.)

I hope so!

Ditto!

(also if 40yo women think they're sexually incredible their boyfriends will get some)

on saturday i was at 7-11 picking up a 6 pack before a bbq. there were three cops in line behind me, when i got to the register there was a sign that says 'WE CARD ANYONE WHO APPEARS TO BE UNDER 40 YEARS OF AGE'. i did not get carded.

-- chicago kevin, Sunday, 31 August 2008 02:29 (5 hours ago) Bookmark Link

This is getting silly now. Soon it'll be 'ANYONE WITHOUT A ZIMMER FRAME OR A COLOSTOMY BAG WILL BE CARDED'

"(also if 40yo women think they're sexually incredible their boyfriends will get some)"

I love this statement because where shall I begin to dismantle it. It's not like women get duped into thinking they are sexually incredible.

It's also not a situation of "women think they are sexy therefore men get to have sex with them."

The whole premise - that a woman "thinks" she is sexually incredible leads to someone "getting some" is really gross.

Well, I guess. I know I put out more when I'm duped into thinking I am sexually incredible.

I only ever think I'm lucky.

Well, cheers!
That's not the point.

the point is, we are all sexually incredible

or incredulous.

I give up.

It's also not a situation of "women think they are sexy therefore men get to have sex with them."

Have you ever tried to have a fully functioning love life with a woman who doesn't think she's sexy? It's fucking heartbreaking.

no. but like i say, I'm lucky. and happy.

and more than a bit drunk.

That's not what I meant!

"if 40yo women think they're sexually incredible their boyfriends will get some."

It just seems like a statement that is WRONG - because who is giving the 40yo women the thought and how is the thought validated?
I am never going to win this argument -mostly because I'm probably over reacting to a statement that was meant to be complimentary to women.

the more I think about it the more I sort of agree. With you guys.

Shit. Well, I will defer to my equals.

(also if 40yo women think they're sexually incredible their boyfriends will get some)

-- Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 31 August 2008 07:43 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

^^^^ was 100% joke. hth

I don't know what hth means.

hope this helps

(hth)

thanks!

Also MarkC -that sounds awful. And kudos to you for recognizing that feeling sexy is pretty much reliant on having a good self image.

I get caught in that trap - I feel ugly and fat and awkward.And I hate relying on my brain to get me out of those situations. I should feel gorgeous -not because I am, but because I'm the one who determines it.

I have never posted a picture of myself. There's a few from a long time ago. Somewhere, and you don't really need to search.
I get sort of dismayed by the images. You are all so beautiful, and I'm not really all that.
But I also feel like being camera ready isn't a quality that I want or need.
I actually HATE having my picture taken. Maybe it's because everyone is taking pictures all the time. My young lol college friends have thousands of pictures on the facebook. But to me it's like a slide show that has no context.

Anyway, this thread has been kidnapped. All the thirty somethings are out partying?

Just put the baby to bed.

I also hate having my picture taken, and always have.

I regret bringing up the libido thing now sorry.

It is one of nature/fate/society's cruel ironies, that just when we are at the point where we are most physically able to enjoy ourselves sexually, we're locked in this shame spiral of "oh no, I'm old, I'm fat I must be ugly" and therefore become unable to enjoy that physicality.

I don't know if it's actually physiological, or if it's more that women at the age of 39 are supposed to have had enough practice to *know* what feels good to them, to know how to go about getting orgasms (even multiple ones) and fertility has decreased to the point where getting pregnant is not so great a risk, yet not so much that we're dried up hormoneless old biddies... oh yeah, and in traditional societies where women would have been married in their teens and bred aged 20, their babies are all grown up and out of the nest leaving space and time finally for whoopie-making...

Wow, I didn't finish that sentence. Never post before you've had your tea. Wow.

I stayed up all night drawing. My mind isn't working clearly.

haha drawing, you're old

I have friends who are 21. When I was 21 I had a couple of friends who were ~34, but the gap was obvious.

Today we saw footage of Patrick Moore in 1957, 34, all Brylcreemed and looking like that bloke out of Bewitched.

When I was 21 I had a couple of friends who were ~34, but the gap was obvious.

Actually, sometimes it wasn't obvious, and I was an immature 21 so pls disregard

I was thinking this morning as I was changing the battery in the smoke detector that the only things I can think of that use those rectangular 9-volts are detectors, guitar pedals, and those old blip football games.

I doubt anyone more than ten years older than me remembers those things and anyone born after 1983 surely has no idea what I'm talking about, unless they've been to a gizmo museum lately.

the football games. I'm sure everyone of all ages knows about smoke detectors and guitar pedals.

http://ledfootball.com/

Just about any portable microprocessor based item back then used those PP3 batteries, and drained them flat pretty fast.

Are there still any items that actually use D size batteries? I found an old speak n spell last year but even it uses C size (and they werent easy to buy anyway).

C batteries now seem massively expensive.

i turn 39 in 3 weeks i don't feel like i'm in my 30s so much as running out the lease on them. but that's ok. they've been pretty good to me. i ended my 20s in kind of a shambles -- newly divorced, utterly unclear about the future -- and i'm ending my 30s with a job i like, a wife i love and two kids whose life-changing effects i can't start to express.

i'm kind of expecting my 40s to go by in a blur of elementary school and employment anxiety. (i used to think i'd stay in journalism til retirement, but that seems like an increasingly dicey prospect.)

Eh? I have been just as likely to stay up all night drawing at any point in my life from aged about 16 til now. Not a function of age! The not being able to function properly the next day is a function of age, though. :-(

Candle, glass of wine, sketchbook. Heaven!

I was joking! Drawing is ace.

Are there still any items that actually use D size batteries?

D-cell M4g1it3 is the only currently available item that springs to mind. I still have a boombox from the early 80's that takes ten D-cells. I've never powered that off batteries due to the cost.

I can think of a D-size-shaped thing that probably uses D-size batteries.

An electric pencil sharpener?

I'm eight months into 30 and so far I love it. Most days I still feel about 18 so maybe that's why. I'm excited for all the things my 30's will bring. Also, fwiw every vibrator I've ever had only took AAs.

who mentioned vibrators?

We were talking torches!

watching the metallic programme on beeb2 last night made me feel great to be in my 30's. i don't know exactly why.

haha metallica

I still buy hoodies and don't iron a goddamn thing. Maybe once I hit the big 3-1?

-- Granny Dainger, Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:44 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Link

^^ Me too. I own an iron but can't remember the last time I used it. Bought new hoodie yesterday. At least maybe I'll get 4 months wear out of it. ;-)

people who use irons are idiots

The ironing is delicious.

I own an iron and can iron. I started getting immensely better paid jobs once I learned the ironing trick. So maybe not such an idiot after all.

Ironing is dead easy but no fun. Although if you iron everything you own there's something wrong with you in the head.

it might explain why i'm still single though

Oh, the iron-y...

who mentioned vibrators?

Mark G, I believe that it was you

Most days I still feel about 18

Normally this is the case with me, however I have just walked a mile.

Oh I know how to iron too but I tend to buy things that don't require it because I hate doing it so much. This extends to clothes I buy for my husband as well.

I hate ironing. I used to wear non-iron shirts but they really itch. I found that a good compromise is those heavy cotton Oxford shirts. Work trousers = non iron. Everything else, sod it...

Ironing has never really bothered me. I kinda like it. I mean, obviously I don't do it all that often.

But Liberty print shirts of the type I like to wear to work really don't look good if not ironed.

agh shit, you all just reminded me to iron.

I bought an ironing board when I moved in October 06 and have used it once.

i LOVED turning 30 because it meant i could officially give up on my dreams

my biggest personal bummer about old age is that my friends are all having kids and stuff, and i'm still like, "duh how do i become an adult?"

or even simulate some vague approximation thereof

sunny ;____;

i mean, someday i'll have cornered the market as far as life-mastery goes, and then i'll be gloating and be like "fuck you guys, i've totally mastered life and I'M A PROPER ADULT"

I don't think I'll ever really be a proper adult. I find myself thinking about things like having a baby and buying property but then thinking wait I can't do that, I'm still a kid!

See, I've taken myself out of that equation so far. (And I'm thrilled, frankly.)

meh, i have friends who were just as immature as I am, and a baby came by accident, and they have since then, pardon the phrase, more than kicked ass at raising their kid...

so...

Nobody is a "proper" adult. Anybody who claims they are is secretly worried that you'll call BS on them. Particularly people who are all "I've got a six bedroom house and two cars and blah blah blah" and try and make you feel inadequate. All you have to do is turn to them and say "SO. FUCKING. WHAT."

Ned, it is ok because you are immortalised in Swindon in any case.

I'm with Ned on this - I'm not concerned at all with having the same house and doing the same things and having the same stuff in my house as the twenty other households on my street.

Yeah ditto here. Still rent, no kids, no intention thereof, not married (though tbh I think I'd like to marry my guy at some point). Wld like to buy a house but cant see it happening. Eh. I've become resigned to it all now I think.

Tell you what though: in my early 30s nothing felt different, but since 35 I have actually started to feel *older*. I'm slower, kids today actually start makin' less sense, I cant drink like I used to, I can't be bothered partying much, being at home cooking is fun, etc.

Yeah I don't necessarily want all the typical things either although we do want a kid(s) at some point and I assume we'll want to buy a place just not right now. I guess I'm just feeling a little werid because a lot of our friends are doing these things now and we're just not there yet at all really.

Ned, it is ok because you are immortalised in Swindon in any case.

Fame! I'm going to live etc.

I've felt a bit tired here and there at points lately but not constantly. Depends on the day. If it gets worse, eh; life goes on.

I probably haven't helped my creaky age-itis by my rather party-harty lifestyle.

Kids! Booze makes you feel shit when you're older!

I don't do late nights very well anymore, but only because I get up at 5 for the gym.

Kids! Booze makes you feel shit when you're older!

This is true. I had two spend all day in bed hangovers this year that would have been nothing to me 10 years ago.

Guys we own a 4 bedroom house, 2 cars, have a kid, a dog, three cats, both have full time jobs and I feel 17 y/o 99% of the time. This shit doesnt make you an "adult".

All of this stuff happened because it made sense at the time and still does ie it doesn't cost much more to own a house than to rent one here so why throw money away when you're happy to stay in the same place for a little while, there's two of us who do different things and go to different places so we need two cars, the kid i was very wishy washy edging toward negative it turns out shes the best decision of my life.

I pretty sure being an adult the way you're all talking about it is a myth.

btw all of that stuff happened in the last 3 years, except the cats.

In my 20s I always had this really desperate feeling that I was running out of time to do something with my life. I have no clue what that something was. By the time I reached 30 I felt like no one really expected anything of me anymore which was like the greatest feeling ever.

I am still the reverse of most people when it comes to boozing - I had really terrible puking shaking hangovers when I was a teenager, and they got less awful as I got older. The only negative is the pains-in-kidneys thing I get instead of hangovers. I only get proper hangovers if I get WASTED OUT OF MY FACE which these days is maybe 3 or 4 times a year.

still waitin for that (xp)

God, if I thought that turning 30 was a permission to give up on my dreams... gah! I never would have done anything.

In fact, I'm actually quite lucky! I had kinda said to my mum that if I hadn't achieved anything by the time I was 30 I'd give up and stop trying. A week before my 30th birthday my then-band got reviewed in the NME (back when this was actually quite a big deal). Everything important that I accomplished in terms of the musician-dream (singles, tours, album, being on the radio/telly/face in magazines etc. etc.) happened AFTER I was 30. So I'm really glad I didn't give up then.

40, however... I feel like I've done everything I'm gonna do on the musician-dream and it's officially time to bury it and get a new dream.

I just don't know what that is yet.

But the moral of the story is, kids, it ain't over at 30. Keep trying if there's something you really want to do, and don't let anyone tell you you're "too old". You're not too old until you can't pass for young any more.

okay yeah i mean "dreams" in the sense that you feel like you have to do something important and that something important is usually career orientated.

my only dream is that someone gives me an obscene amount of money so I dont have to do ANYTHING careerish

and, yes, that dream lives on

How the heck is anyone expected to know what the heck they want to do with their lives in their 20s? Honestly! One of the great things about your 30s is that that is when it kind of drops into place and you figure out what you're good at - and decide to just make a "career" doing that rather than that whole thing of Having A Career.

At least, that's what happened to me.

the idea of having a career at all is ridiculous to me

unless youre one of those type A entrepreneur peeps who run around taking over all kinds of industries because that shit looks like some fun

i wish there were more people like sunny in the world

i'm not without ambitions in life, but the idea that i or anyone else is required to validate their existence via a career path needs to go fuck off

seems I'm basically sunny in a lot of ways.

"career" concepts are kind of silly to me, and in the last couple of years I've gotten much more comfortable with the idea that this is it, that I should enjoy what I've got and not keep thinking that someday I'm going to do something awesome and magical and everything will be figured out for me. I'm much more able to enjoy all of the good things that I have going on and not stressing what could have been / what I should have done.

though I still would love someone to drop lottery money on me so I didn't have to do anything at all and therefore could do everything I want.

A career is what happens to make you money while you were making other plans.

I only had a career by accident. I didn't go pursuing it. It just came and found me.

wow, that's great!

Sunny re: dreams, LOL.

I knew I had a career when I realized I'd been doing the same thing for 12 years, kept progressing, in general enjoyed it and made a lot of money at it.

However, having a career and having your career be your life are two different things.

My career took off just after I hit 30. The past couple of years have been a rollercoaster. And I still have enough spare time to indulge in the other things I achieved after turning 30.

Still in my 30s.

As the ravers get old and boring what do the 30 something ex-clubbers buy?

I am one of the oldest people in my grad school program, and I've only just begun.

My career took off just after I hit 30. The past couple of years have been a rollercoaster. And I still have enough spare time to indulge in the other things I achieved after turning 30

ditto for me, only replace "30" with "32"

yo yo yo breakdancing etc...

Quite enjoy being in my 30s. All the decent bits of being in my 20s but perhaps not as emotionally intense.

I've heard that from a lot of people. Almost halfway through my 30s and still waiting for that to happen.

There are certain things I'm not feeling so comfortable with these days though. I was invited to go to a hippie-ish club/rave night/thing in London the other day for a younger mate's birthday, but got ill instead and kinda felt relieved I didn't have to go. My 24-y/o hippie raving younger self woulda been all over that shit.

Well, it looks like I'm joining you guys in here for the next 10 years!

C'est dommage -- I'm almost outta here!

Yeah, we're about to go from the VP Agnew years to the VP Ford year. You kids have fun with your disco.

Thirties are awesome, but its definitely way more intense than my twenties were. In a good way.

so far my 30s have been about diminishing possibilities and the reality of crushing financial burden and lack of mobility settling in even as i try to ignore it with less and less success. on the plus side i love somebody.

at least i've still got good hair, that never goes away, does it

what up motherfuckers

what is being 30 like today

Happy Birthday!

get off my lawn

god

Happy birthday!

LOL I want to go back and slap 2008 me and shout BUY A FLAT YOU NINNY.

welcome LJ!
definitely on the back half of this 30s thing now and it's pretty good

been here, done this

hey mookie you want to get a beer

whoa i'm older than lj?

We all are. This was established a decade ago.

i just assumed that everyone who's been on this site longer than me was 35+

Sup lj hb nb 30s are sweet

Happy birthday LJ, have a good one man.

I have to Remove Bookmark from this Thread now :(

Happy birthday LJ

Tony Blair also made a comeback today #excitingTimes

Happy birthday dude!

can't believe lj is only now 30. happy birthday!

congrats lj, now you have no excuse

Oh my. hblj

HB, LJ. Cannot believe that there's still anyone under 30 among our Council of Olds.

I guess I oughtta milk this thread for all it's worth now, since I only have a handful of months before I have to face the death panels.

excusing me intruding into the kids' thread but happy bird-day imago

I turn 30 this December.

jesus christ stop rubbing your youth in our saggy faces, you whippersnappers

j/k enjoy your 30s, it will be a magical journey

i'm gonna be 30 in june see y'all in a few months

Thanks everyone! Spending the day trammelling around Weybridge and environs, on the Digger trail. Here's to 17th century socialism (and Italian restaurants)

oh happy birthday lj!

HBLJ, hope you have a good day and indeed decade

I want to go back and slap 2008 me and shout BUY A FLAT YOU NINNY.

Dear 2009 me, don't buy a nice flat in a good location, buy a horrible tiny house in a crap location for 10% more, because in 2017 the flat will be worth 20% more (maybe soon 20% less as they are building a giant tower of cheap flats opposite) and the house will have doubled in value and you are never going to get a house nowwww

(actually maybe don't, I love my flat, but still, I would also love a garden and not to be able to hear my downstairs neighbours sneezing, and they would probably love not to hear all the things I do which are louder than sneezing which I don't even want to think about)

...This thread has made me realise I don't know where time has gone since approx Aug 2011, there were probably some things I should've done in that time but it seems suspiciously like I haven't done anything at all

I'm 35 and sorry I missed this thread during peak breakdancing, and except for getting into jazz, Steely Dan, and Yes, things are about like they were circa 27ish, though more of my friends now make more money than I do, making me seem more like an underachieving bozo - living with roommates, staying up late, and meanwhile nursing roughly the same rolling midlife crisis as ten years ago. More of the people I was carrying torches for have gotten married or at least engaged. My hair and outfits are maybe a little cooler, and I consume substances I didn't back then. Probably I'm a bit more emotionally mature and I think I'm a better listener and partner. My days still seem to slip away from me often; I blame ILX but this place is often worth it.

My 30s are like a decade-long shit snaking off into the horizon. Trying to think of what I have to show for it beyond an explosion of white amidst what little hair I have left.

Although I realize self-assessment induces more of a shrug than the panic and dread that it used to, so I suppose that's growth of a sort.

If you don't yet practice good posture, this is the decade when that will come back to haunt you and all thoughts of future breakdancing will become a cruel joke.

Srsly, enjoy your joints before they start popping and locking independent of your conscious intent.

Ha actually that has been something different, posture awareness! After a very ugly back incident four years ago, and somewhat-under-control shoulder trouble, both stemming from decades of using computers in moronic ways.

getting an office job has improved my posture - getting the seat & screen positioned just so means I'm in a decent position all day. I occasionally feel it in my neck/shoulders a bit but it's very minor and my lower back feels drastically better

Doing the little stretch/yoga type exercises they gave me after my big back incident has been key. Would also help if I could get myself to stick to a gym routine, and especially if I had convenient access to a pool and swam a few laps a week.

I just started physical therapy this week.

I just completely destroyed myself.... doing the vacuuming ;_;

...this is prob better suited to the old geezers thread tbh

the old geezers thread? you mean this one?

or perhaps this one would be more to the point -- although it is now touched by sadness, bcz the OP was bimble.

The only difference between my early-mid 30s and my 20s is that everyoen I know is married and has kids. I'm still living like a degenerate, but with a corporate job, so life's not even wild, it's just mismanaged. I'm healthier than I was in my teens and 20s, so that's cool, and I still have most of my hair, so that's pretty cool, too. I'm starting to give into the groove, so I have pretty good feelings for the future. I just never thought I'd live this far.

The one weird thing about getting older is the weight of memory and experience. It feels like this mental exhaustion, and makes me understand why some people would want to die in their old age. I feel like my life is just starting now , but man, I don't get how people like Peter Thiel could drink the blood of illegal immigrant children and male prostitutes he hires off Craigslist to become immortal. I guess you'd have to be the kind of person to do that to do that.

You started off pretty well there but

I'm finally at that age where watching shit set in the 80s starts giving me sad nostalgia rather than "lol I remember that" nostalgia.

I party way harder in my 30s than I ever did in my 20s though. less so after the blackout drunk hospital visit but what I'd give now for my wasted early 20s

xp I retract my statement about Peter Thiel, it's completely made up, and just my weird sense of humor. He'd make an able governor of California. Anyway, life's on the precipice of an upswing for me, so my 30s are looking better than my 20s, which was basically just youth, arrogance, chaos, and stupid decisions.

my back problems have started up too. years of bad posture yo.

How often do you exercise? My back starts hurting when I don't exercise. Exercise, plenty of fruits and vegetables, and just plain clean living cures all, in my experience.

lol....I am the definition of "sloth", so I'm not surprised why it's happening.

i was in a wave of mild depression that didn't help but have pulled out of it so maybe it's time to get to the gym and get back to my high school weight.

Aim, thats a thread for people in their 50s - I'm not there quite yet! :) Feels like it sometimes though ugh.

Mind you a workmate was thrown yesterday when I said I was 45 and he thought I was 10 years younger. I find it hard to believe that old trick of mine still works, thanks to the ravages of booze but eh.

I still look a little younger than my age, so I suspect the damage often stays internal until things just stop working

Although I realize self-assessment induces more of a shrug than the panic and dread that it used to, so I suppose that's growth of a sort.

otm

It's like throwing an apple core on a skip that's already overly full.

Until a couple of years ago, people were routinely shocked to learn that I was 10-15 years older than they thought. Having subsequently bridged that physiognomic gap has been a challenge to my ego. My daily employment of the black knee socks/tan cargo shorts combo may be the greatest of the indignities I've suffered.

Dear 2009 me, don't buy a nice flat in a good location, buy a horrible tiny house in a crap location for 10% more, because in 2017 the flat will be worth 20% more (maybe soon 20% less as they are building a giant tower of cheap flats opposite) and the house will have doubled in value and you are never going to get a house nowwww

― a passing spacecadet

man, 2009 me doesn't need advice, 2017 me needs advice. me from eight years from the future needs to come visit to either tell me "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING YOU IDIOT" or "Smartest decision you're ever going to make".

it made me sad when I went from "you're 30? wow, no way" to "yeah that seems about right" when I say my age. Not that I look bad for 36 or anything, just I used to look younger than my age for many years. :)

lol 2017 me is angry at 2009 me for squandering 75% of my savings in less than a year. Now I have almost 15k tucked away.

Hey kids

i turned 30 last fall but didn't know about this thread so clearly i've already fucked up my 30s

i'm hi, 30 years old

my beard has more white patches in it and i'm def happier than i was at 20 but still feel like i get treated like a kid by older people

"I party way harder in my 30s than I ever did in my 20s though. less so after the blackout drunk hospital visit but what I'd give now for my wasted early 20s"

Neanderthal , do tell

And happy belated to imago, who beat me in chess on his big day even while he was distracted with wine and his girlfriend

that knight move tbf

Not that interesting. In a low moment last year i got blackout drunk and woke up covered in vomit in a hospital. Since then i have cut back and carry a breathalyzer too

That's just debs night iirc

the 30 yr old debs I think that was a film

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I turn 30 this coming slurpee day, so this may be a bit premature

u young

slurpees = the secret to eternal youth?

(tbf I'm pretty sure I haven't had a slurpee at any point in my 20s)

30 and 31 were great years for me. 32 even. 34-36 were the crap ones.

just get ready for your metabolism to slow down and to smell funnier.

think I can deal with that!

My twenties end this Sunday.

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so far thirties = much like twenties but fatter

Born December 13, 1989 (age 27)

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the main thing about my 30s is that time seems to have sped up alarmingly so it feels like I was 27 maybe a year or two ago and oh shit it was ten years ago. ten!

I can't tell you anything about being in one's 30s apart from this for this reason

guess I'm doing something wrong because I still have the physique of a skeleton wrapped in cheesecloth

I was 34 when I started this thread and now I'm 43. My experience has been the opposite: my 30s felt like two decades and the last three years have felt like ten.

(xpost) enjoy being able to eat whatever you like while it lasts, because metabolism decided to go on sabatical in my early 30s. Last week I ate half a 16" pizza and was still feeling like I'd overdone it six days later.

30s suck. i had lots of fun in the 20s, partied all night, all the "meaningful" nightlife living you are supposed to do.

got me jack shit. all my friends are gone. nobody to play with anymore.

thank god for videogames or id blow my brains out

eh, maybe not THAT bad. lol. i had just read this review of Lorde and it was all about the romanticism of your 20s fuck that

I turn 38 next month, I live in an apartment with my wife (32) and our grown ass adult son aka our roomate (33)

living the goddamn dream

i love being 30 tbh

I only have months left to breakdance, what moves should I learn

I live way more than i did in my 20s

my 20s were spent being insanely poor, making lots of terrible decisions, having shitty romantic relationships... but i had lots of great friends living in my city and had a decent social life

my 30s have been spent financially stable, making mostly good life decisions, married to the best and most interesting person i've ever met... but i have practically no friends in this town and absolutely no social life to speak of. i get drunk once a year now, in stead of once a week. i enjoy looking at the weather app on my phone, and seeing what the weather is like in the dozen or so cities i've added. i've seen my best friends in person less than a handful of times since i hit my 30s.

Born December 13, 1989 (age 27)

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― the baby grew up to be a secessful kid (unregistered), Friday, June 23, 2017 6:11 PM

Shhh, you’ll ruin my cover. ;-)

fuck

haaaai

yo yo yo

eh

I'm definitely not in my early, or even mid 30s any more. How did i let that happen?

mid is what, 33ish to 37ish? I'm going to claim that

lol I'm getting booted out of this group in 2 years.

Totes mids

31. feels good.

so glad i was not 30sthing in the 80s

― rrrobyn

My 30th birthday was in 1984. :(

I was 34 when I started this thread and now I'm 43.

I'm three and a half years past being able to post on this thread but wvs. There's someone at work who does the same job as me who is 23. They would have been 14 when this thread started.

Aimless clicking on this thread is like

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I have two months and 5 days before I can no longer post in this thread. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

xp What? I'm not supposed to be curious about what other ilxors who are in their thirties have to say?

Just teasing!

Watch your step, young man, or I'll start posting to this thread.

Go nuts! Just don't show them.

I turn 39 this summer. Clock’s ticking.

jealous of the 40s thread. I felt weirdly anxious about my 20s ending but now I feel what seems like a healthy mixture of pleasure and nothing at all about being in my 30s. mb it's being around older people more at work and in general but I'm very aware of how young ppl are and how foolish & pretentious ppl can be about their age. all the performative grumbling and loling about how I'm not like I was in 2007 anymore!!! seems ridiculous and ofc immature. I half wish ppl wld enjoy their youth (or at least enjoy not suffering from age) less self-consciously but also, as I've finally (I think) reached the point of no longer thinking there is anyone who isn't full of it at least some of the time, I feel more indulgent towards the ways in which ppl are. (sometimes, a bit, depending on my mood).

People in their mid-20s who do that performative 'Oh I'm so old, I can't do this, I can't do that, I'm just going to start wearing a shawl and doing crosswords on a Saturday night' do drive me a bit potty. Even in my late-20s I felt too immature and unqualified for a whole bunch of 'adulting' activities.

I’m just posting because I’m still 39 2/3rds and not interested in the 40+ thread. yo yo yo breakdancing etc.

word to that, I'm 40 in April, I'll be breakdancing non-stop until then

Don't be spinning on your heads, it might be one of the causes of male pattern baldness.

I'm terrifically bald and have been considering the full skinhead for a while but keep putting it off cos big fat head.

Ppl in their twenties who complain about being old don bother me why the fuck would they. DL you are in your thirties stop paying attn to these vermin

breakdancing update: back has gone, having to lie down, roll on my 40s

I definitely felt like I was getting old in my twenties. Hangovers got worse, going from studying to jobbing was horrible, social circle became smaller as friends got kids and I just didn't meet that many new people anymore. Horrible time. My early thirties, conversely, are quite okay, I'm biking a lot, I'm taking a bit more care of myself, having a bit more success on my job, really prioritizing my hobbies and not doing a thousand other things. I feel much younger than I used to :)

That's all otm too

Twenties is horrible

exercising has definitely helped with keeping me cool in my 30s (says the guy who hasn't been to the gym in two weeks)

yea you hit a wall at 23 where you realize your metabolism can't keep up with your shit lifestyle anymore and then another wall at 28 when you find you can't quite make it to bar close and sleep until 3 PM like you used to

adjust ages accordingly for biology and required office hours

yall old ass motherfuckers these days huh

onward to the 40s thread lads

im not even late thirties til end of week

7 months til I’m 30 but I’m rounding up, feel like being 30 will suit my sedate lifestyle

i went out dancing twice at the weekend and now i feel like crying a lot

i'm 31 now! so far my 30s suck mentally but are ok otherwise

wait, what are we counting as late 30s now?

feel like I may have committed the Whiney generalization where he was claiming to be "nearly 40" at the tender age of 36 now

well i mean 36 is blatantly mid

otm

I guess 37.5 and up is definitively late

jaysus not late til dec so

I am reading Walt Whitman rn. He wrote “Song of Myself” when he was 37. I read the latest Harry Potter play, for work, and he is 37 at its start. It made me wonder: is 37 the accepted halfway point? If so, I’m sort of okay with how things have turned out.

xp we're practically youth

looking at the pension, presuming 67 is the retirement age, id like 10 active years minimum to enjoy that.

77

35 is the halfway point of the traditional threescore years and ten I guess. Time for your allegorical journey through hell!

yeah but we all live to 95 now so we can compare pancreatic cancers afaict

I've been thinking of life in terms of youth/adult plateau/senility where you're on the upswing for the first, relatively stable and living out the bulk of your years, and then a slight decline in the last part that echoes the lesser independence of youth and reliance on others

both of my grandfathers passed last year after spending some time in assisted living homes, though, so that may be weighing on my reasoning

I guess 37.5 and up is definitively late

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NOOOOO

i dont feel like anything up to 25 was all that great which is why my cheery demeanour since maybe

same, mostly

had a couple crap years in-between in there, a bunch of good ones in my thirties, though

34. Preferred 33 when I was the age of Christ when he died. Everything seemed to be looking up then

As Tom Lehrer once said, “when Mozart was my age, he had been dead for four years”

if i only live long enough to prevent any cunt making a movie half as bad about me itll be enough

feel like I may have committed the Whiney generalization where he was claiming to be "nearly 40" at the tender age of 36 now

wait a second, i'm nearly 36
that means i'm nearly 40

i should buy a sports car

make sure it has a spoiler that is exactly as big as your desperation

39 today. Don't know that i am ready to be 40 next year

Do you still yo yo yo breakdance a lot?

happy birthday!

Don't think i could without slipping a disc.

Thx!

happy 39th neanderthal! i am going to catch up to you some day.

Also, HB! :)

36, the first year that i've actually felt some anxiety about getting older, and even feel somewhat "old"

im in mid 30s limbo ever since i cant limbo

Happy 39th Neanderthal. Didn't know we were the same age. I can't fathom how I got to this point myself

Happy Birthday, Neanderthal Man! Don't sweat yr 40s, folks, once the dementia fully kicks in its nothing but smoooooooth...ssssssomething...

I turned 30 this year, so far so good, very relaxing.

33 1/2 now

I sorta fret about the fact that most weeks follow the same pattern, I have two kids so it's hard to get out of the 'routine' I have. but I have a house I like, a job I like, kids that I like, good beer in the fridge...I guess this is the life I wanted 10 years ago

Why would you want anything other than a routine

otm

routine with lots of good meals and holidays

everyone in their 30s when this thread was started is now in their 40s

a job you like holy shit what's your secret?

honestly, a lot of luck

Happy birthday, Neanderthal! Death to the Cro-Magnons!

oh I feel pretty lucky to be eating. Like though? good work. happy 30s everybody!

35 this week. I can't believe how fast my 30s are going. I don't feel any different from when I was 28.

got all the hair retention genes & am still effectively 12

I am feeling my age. Degenerative disc in neck acts up a lot, taking blood pressure meds, cholesterol borderline. Tired often.

Metal shows tho i de-age 15 years

90 mins on a full pitch tonight and drank the young fellas off to bed afterwards, age is just a number but bmi as pertains to ability to soak alcohol is a core truth

30 yrs, 7 mos coming up in a few days. Feel honored to be the same age as silby.

Where I am now is not something I could have predicted. I have a partner I love very much, a job I hate very much, and I live in a city that I am sick of.

I gained 15 pounds in 2019. Don’t look my best, but I’m finding I care less about my appearance in my 30s. I used to be really vain.

K back to retirement

Oh yeah—over the past year, i started finding gray hairs in my beard. Wtf

I have one solitary grey hair in my beard

I'm 36 in June and get paranoid with every new bodily twinge that it's the start of some permanent decline instead of a passing ache. I definitely drink less now. Ever since I turned 30s, I seem to get hangovers at the drop of a hat, and brutal ones at that--the kind where sitting up makes me vomit from migraines. I can still manage a cocktail or two if I ate right before, but that's about it. I started smoking grass at 30 (boy, if only those DARE stories about the easy availability of drugs had been true at my high school) so I haven't missed drinking much, to be honest, except for the social aspect.

Without school or a job that lends itself to socializing, I am increasingly aware of the difficulty of making new friends (I only have a handful due to changing social circles etc), and honestly afraid about becoming an old man with no support system. Guess I gotta find a hobby that gets me out of the house.

Posting here while i still can

why hello, fellow kids!

There's a guy at work who would have been 9 when this thread started. He's got a beard.

I'm a few weeks shy of 36 but I got ID'd today, so that was nice

i am going to be 32. my twenties feel like they basically didn't happen, such a blur.

so much was spent on ilx.

think of the last decade of yr nineties when its just you and idk crut and tabes and silby and idk who else round here

Louis, unless he gets a comical posho disease like gout or fatty liver and dies at 58

Thrown from a polo horse godforbid

God bless him but someone will get him before even then id say

My last year of my 30s, I'm sure I'm really gonna make the most of it this year

Ive got four-odd months which through the covid lens is more like simultaneously ten mins of actual craic worth and ten years ito how long its gonna feel like

I'm a few weeks shy of 36

Sup.

think of the last decade of yr nineties when its just you and idk crut and tabes and silby and idk who else round here

I’m a poster for life, I don’t give a fuck

I’m 37 btw

37 this year. Past couple of years I've really transitioned into being more boring and responsible and having less need of socializing and keeping up with popular culture. I'm middle-age in spirit and soon will br in actuality.

39, y'all. My big plan of this being the year I get around to all kinds of wild adventures and personal accomplishments has been somewhat disrupted by circumstances. But I'm sure it'll all work out.

think of the last decade of yr nineties when its just you and idk crut and tabes and silby and idk who else round here

Im planning it all, the times will come again

xp i mean yknow borderline mid-late thirties cases are just lumped in with the rest of us tbh

turned 30 in september, so i think I’m still too young for this thread

you’re not

Dont kid yrself, kid

the thread for ilxors 31 or older

31 is when the breakdancing starts.

You can dance after 31 but things break

Weirdly I'm about to take up rollerblading

We all go crisis when and how we choose I guess