Ironic tshirts? good or bad (or what ever you guys call it)

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You know the tshirts - the ones with Che Guevara and these made up American Colleges.

Lee, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Random American Place Followed By Random Year From 1970 - 1985 shirts - a great fat dud. I think it would be quite good to have a top that had "Angkor Watt 1642" on it, though.

And those bloody "Princess" / "Angel" things! I hate them!

Lady Space Pilot, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

worst: Lee Denim's 'Fuck Fashion' shirts [with faux-spraypaint slogans/anarchy symbols/safety pins that don't actually hold anything together]. they were about $80, 90 in the high street fashion stores. though somehow i don't know if their Target Market realised the irony...

petra jane, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

my new thing is ironic nudity

mark s, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

hahaha, word up mark.......my uncle is the executive master of that shit.....after his nuts dropped he stapled the excess scrote into Gucci loops!

Ramosi, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

but i thought irony was dead?

geeta, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

er, that's what the ad/mediaZor people proclaimed after sept 11. so they're not following their own fickle rules anymore? shock! or they were being ironic when they made that statement? clever! is irony the new black again? fuck i am so not ready to move to new york

when a 14 yr old kid buys a sweatshop-made 'revolution' shirt, i am somehow convinced this is a sincere/well-meant act on his part. from his youthful perspective, at least. ie, i am somehow not convinced he is thinking of the multiple layers of irony that he is invoking by wearing said shirt.

geeta, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i just got the special paper so I can make my own iron on t shirts printed from computer. I will probably make a "rainy" shirt.

mike hanle y, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Worst - Ratt/Warrant/Iron Maiden (et al) t-shirts. Culture-jamming too.

Damian, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'd like to buy a Rainy shirt, please. Will it have stats (baseball/top trumps style, not vital stats)?

Mark C, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"these made up American Colleges" i think this is the british equivalent of that www.engrish.com stuff. well, not just liek that, to all dodgy bootleg stuff (eg in russia) with random english phrases that make no sense on a jacket or something. but they seem to be fair game to laugh at, whilst its top-shop style trendy to wear 'columbia state university' or something on your zip up hoody....

ambrose, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm 16!
give me the keys,
give me the credit cards,
and get out of my way

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I wouldn't mind having a Poison T-Shirt, but I wouldn't be wearing ironically.

jel --, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm wearing a t-shirt I made right now. It was for a Spanish project. It has Mexico and has one of their ziggarat looking things on it. It' cool for something I made. Here's a tip to the kid going to make his own t-shirts: Don't iron the image on the t-shirt on a tile surface. You'll get funky lines. Of course, it could be a nice touch if you want funky lines.

Lindsey B, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i want a poison t-shirt too. i would wear it with ripped jeans a la joe elliott.

di, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I will also make a one of a kind KRAFTWERK shirt

mike hanle y, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

actually i'm gonna make myself a t-shirt that reads "i am a tool of the patriarchy".

di, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Only t-shirt slogan I ever liked -- "I'm so fucking alternative."

Sterling Clover, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the only ironic tshirt i have says 'i'm country and proud' with a picture of a banjo, but i find myself constantly reassuring indie friends 'no, i'm not really...no i'm not country..no..o.k i liked that dolly parton song 9 - 5 but thats it'. and seeing grown men wearing Alf and goonie tshirts in the name of irony makes me sad inside.

cherrysqueak, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

but country music rules! no irony!

di, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

She's right you know.

Ronan, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

http://www.auraldecimation.com/hosted/relapseubb/upload/robert.jp g

Brave Ulysses, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

but country music rules! no irony!

Well, yes. But imagine living in a country where country is defined by Tim McGraw.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

bad bad bad bad BAD!

ducklingmonster, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

this is not a fugazi t-shirt

ducklingmonster, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

hello boys

ducklingmonster, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i live in a nation where country is defined by shania twain and faith hill. thanks, cultural imperialism.

di, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

http://www.auraldecimation.com/hosted/relapseubb/upload/arguing.j pg

Brave Ulysses, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

re: rainy shirts, does that mean me?

rainy, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Of course! Rainy the Good. :-)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

would a 'rainy' shirt be ironic?

rainy, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Of course. You don't wear a t-shirt when it's raining.

electric sound of jim, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A rainy shirt would be ironic because one expects to see a ducklingmonster shirt ...a rainy slicker perchance, but not a rainy shirt

mike hanle y, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"i'm gonna make myself a t-shirt that reads "i am a tool of the patriarchy" - yeah what you oughta do is steal a Tool (the band) t- shirt & write the other stuff around it, that would be choice!

, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ned do you have a tool t-shirt?

di, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the one with the wrench logo but it's not a wrench it's a dick w/ balls!

, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A FRIEND OF MINE USED TO WEAR A "CHEERLEADERS FUCK" T-SHIRT. I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY COOL.

Poops McGee, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ned do you have a tool t-shirt?

I most certainly do, but not the one Duane lusts for. Regardless, he shall not have it.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i have a personal problem with the women's playboy t-shirts. i also have a slight problem with the "bitch" "whore" "slut" slogan t-shirts worn by girls who don't even know who kathleen hanna is. but you know, co-optation, ain't such a big deal, feminists inevitably find new and more exciting ways to challenge society anyway.

di, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"the one Duane lusts for", yeah tool tshirts give me such a boner. except it's not a boner its a socket wrench thing!

, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i live in a nation where country is defined by shania twain and faith hill
I lust for Shania Twain, I usually turnt he mute on her video but stillshe is one fine looking thing in a leather mini.
Um anyways, my favorite two tshirts have no deeper meaning, one states "DONT HATE KATE" and the other "Johnny Cat Premieme Cat Litter" The dont hate kate one has gotten me with good stead with more Kate's then I care to mention but the other is my favorite due to my undieing love of my amazing and wonderful cat at home.

Mr Noodles, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two years pass...
Is it even possible to get a GOOD t-shirt that isn't ironic but has something printed on it which isn't dorky either? Or has the way we look at t-shirts changed for good?

adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Are t-shirts even acceptable anymore?

adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Depends on what you mean by acceptable.
T-shirts and blue jeans will never die out.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Or else we'd all be lost.

Slim Pickens (Slim Pickens), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

New t-shirts with stuff on them are sort of a poor bet these days. I'll never be able to come to terms with the NYC super limited-edition sixty-dollar boutique shirts. Shirts-with-stuff-wise, that leaves tourist shirts (no thanks) and vintage "ironic" shirts, the latter of which are starting to read more and more to me as actively blank; they're too common and basic to even register the "don't rush me I'm retired" or "camp fribbington 1988" or whatever. I just buy plain solid-colored t-shirts and the occasional very-simple vintage thing (most recently one that just says "Nativity" on the front and a number in back -- I'm guessing it's a private school?).

I did see a shirt the other day that said "new york is for haters," which I sort of dug.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Any t-shirt with text on it is a dud. Attractive or interesting images on a t-shirt, or a plain solid-color t-shirt, are fine.

n.a. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

i still like my jack daniels field tester tshirt, but it was bought new at the distillery with absolutely no ironic intent.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, even the genuinely-new chain-store t-shirts have converted to being like 75% fake-vintage, either in a full-on distressed "pretending to be vintage" way or that weird wink-wink ironic faux-vintage way (where it's like a fake summer-camp shirt but it says "Old Navy Summer Camp 87" or something).

I can't think of a single new t-shirt that says stuff on it that I would buy. Apart from selected band t-shirts. That's pretty much it.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I have this t-shirt (well, actually I have two of them) for my friends' band. The band was called How the West Was Lost, but since they are indie, the band name on the front has no vowels. So it reads H W TH W ST W S L ST. And pretty much every time I wear it, someone asks me what it means. So despite it being an awesome shirt, it's kind of a dud.

n.a. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I like my new Detroit Tigers t-shirt, and it's not ironic. I'm finally starting to like baseball again.

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

nabisco please don't ever walk by Ground Zero on a sunny afternoon - your head would explode.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh wait, text t-shirts that I do like: ones sold by actual places. For instance, I bought a t-shirt from the bagel shop in my neighborhood, right before it closed: they had great coffee and a nice logo and I loved them dearly. But the shirt turned out too small, so I will not get to walk around with COLUMBIA HOT BAGELS on my chest.

But stuff like that, small-business shirts, college-radio shirts, stuff like that is okay by me.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

How come, Stencil -- tourist shirts? I work in midtown, I'm ever-so-slightly innoculated. I like it when whole families of four are all wearing the same FDNY t-shirts.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh wait, text t-shirts that I do like: ones sold by actual places.

exactly. like the jack daniels one, and also the one from the deep fried pizza place in glasgow which unfortunately looks terrible on me (it's a really weird shade of blue).

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

That is always the problem with actual-place t-shirts: they won't let you go in the restroom and try them on, or anything. (This is how I wound up with the crap size and cut of my "I [blue circle] Chicago" t-shirt.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently there is now an "I hate the blue circle" movement?

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i want one that says "cleveland's a plum."

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't like the ironic t-shirts either but the worst thing is being asked if my shirt is ironic. i have a nice iron-on shirt with the quote "i destroy romantics" written on it, i keep hoping people will say "hey cool! a fall shirt!" but they ask, "is that ironic?"

chomisan, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

the best are t-shirts which seem ironic BUT ARE NOT IN YOUR CASE, such as my beloved maroon and yellow University of Minnesota - Office of Human Resources shirt.

g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i totally misread those chicago shirts. i thought it mean "I [blew] Chicago"

g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

it's more of the fake vintage shirts with "ironic" slogans down here lately.

Also, nabisco, when in the history of mankind have you ever needed to try on a shirt? They come in all the same sizes. I know what mine is, unless I either binge eat and become a recluse or become a junkie, the size ain't changing.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

that is, S, M, L, XL, XXL, etc.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I want the one that says "I'm Hungary for Turkey" in response to not fitting into any of the "everyone loves an Irish girl" etc. categories that are more prominent.
I like the ones that are actual shirts that people have found in thrift shops, Goodwill, like "Buckeye Collision" or whatever.
Ironic t-shirts are not as bad as those damn cotton shorts/pants with sorority letters/Booty emblazoned across the arse of girls everywhere on campus now.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

People wearing "Gettin' Lucky in Kentucky" t-shirts who have never been to Kentucky should be shot.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

black v neck kenneth cole t-shirts for me thanks

i think if i sold off all my salvation army finds i could live off the $ for a year.

kephm, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

hstencil-I saw some girl wearing one of those yesterday. With her booty sorority letters pants. Argh.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

i guess my bullshirt could be seen as ironic, but it's not. black, with a glitter iron-on of a raging bull and BULLSHIT written in the steam coming out of the nostrils. i only wear it when i'm in a foul mood.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I love that shirt lauren! I can't remember the last time I saw you wear it, but I don't remember you being in a bad mood.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

the last time i remember wearing it, i was definitely in a foul mood by night's end if not the beginning.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

the last time you saw me dj, at El Bohemio?

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

no. i was wearing my century 21 bargain balenciaga shirt that night.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

hmm, okay I'm stumped.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i keep seeing t-shirts with profanity on them, except one letter will be asterisked-out or missing altogether. like "FCK" or "F*CK YOU F*CKING F*CKS." what is that about?

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, Stencil, shirt sizes aren't anywhere near consistent -- especially if you're between sizes and sort of weird shaped, like I am. This is why I don't have any band t-shirts I can actually wear: I get a medium and it's too big, I get a small and it's too small, I get a medium again and now it's just cut weird around the shoulders, I get a small again and suddenly it's too long. If I don't try something on before buying it, chances are it will not fit and I will never wear it.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

nobody is "between sizes."

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

ironic t-shirts vs frat-boy humor t-shirts FITE!

http://www.tshirthell.com/images/newfrontlogo3.jpg

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Like there's a difference...

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost - latebloomer, there is no difference.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

walking to the subway on Church St. the other day (again, across from Ground Zero), I saw this frattish dude wearing a shirt that said "Good Bush - Bad Bush" (the former being a cartoon of a woman taking off panties, the latter being the president).

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

ps. if they're not wearing an "ironic" t-shirt their polo shirt's collar is WAY UP.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

that tshirthell.com site is something i tell you what..

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost - latebloomer, there is no difference.
-- hstencil (hstenc!...), August 24th, 2004.

i know, but c'mon! it's like east coast vs west coast rappers!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

you make Tim Dog and Eazy-E cry.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

fcuk bugs me-oh my god, our acronymn is like the letters in fuck, but reversed. Clever Clogs!

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

people still wear fcut? , whoa , thought that skate brand went out with bill clinton

kephm, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, i leave to get lunch and this thread totally exploded!

adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I wear a US Air Force t-shirt sometimes since it was free, it is blue with a white jet on it, and my grandfather was an Air Force vet. However, as I was going through security at Jacksonville, the guys with the machine guns pointed fingers at me and accused me of being ironic.

We all laughed about it after I put my shoes back on, but it was still a very weird experience.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i saw some guy in like a welsh indie band or something wearing a "north philly" shirt in his press photo and i just wanted to throttle him

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

COED NAKED LACROSS JELLO SHOT CLUB' t shirts are the new ironic t-shirts (cause like, nobody wears these anymore?)

kephm, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

there's this guy i kind of know (i see him around on campus, i think we have some common aquaintances) that seem to own ONLY frat boy t-shirts (people love that "recognizable brand name reconfigured to sound like a sexual position or bodily fuction" shit here). i hate him.

m. (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Has the "small picture on left breast/huge picture on back" style come back in fashion yet? I've got some OP and Panama Jack shirts in my closet that I could dig out.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

that went out of style?!!!?

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Aww fuck, I had totally forgotten Coed Naked. Why'd you have to put that back in my universe?

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

my favorite look is the head to toe Marlboro Miles outfit

kephm, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

mitch reminded me that I also hate the ones that are like the people on the restroom signs, but put in compromising positions. (My my I'm a bit hating today, it's because all the students are back.)
In my part of the US, No Fear never went away.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I rilly want a "virginia is for hustlers" t.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I found a shop in the Haight that sells boilersuits = I am set.

adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

And by the way, apropos of, like, t-shirts, can I point out once again what I noticed while watching the Black Flag "TV Party" video the other night: they're dressed exactly like any group of current-day LESiders? T-shirts, hair, jeans, etc. Looking for picture confirmation right now.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

what are you trying to prove with that, nabisco? That dudes dress like dudes?

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.barberandcompany.com/prodimg/lg/5113.jpg

Betcha didn't know that the Confederacy was busing even back in the nineteenth century.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

does this count as ironic?


http://www.draaisma.net/rudi/free-e-cards/images/braintits.jpg

kephm, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

The efficiency of the cycle is just sort of striking to me. Also, I want someone's call on the difference between one TV Partier's Mickey Mouse t-shirt (poss. new?) and a modern-day Mickey Mouse t-shirt (always vintage, always ironic).

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, that dude in the video was just reminding me of Jess with more hair.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Greg Ginn's rocking your blazer/jeans look here, nabisco!

http://www.vh1.com/shared/media/images/sn_legacy/sonicnet/assetmedia/bands/images/483_9198.jpg

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, I want someone's call on the difference between one TV Partier's Mickey Mouse t-shirt (poss. new?) and a modern-day Mickey Mouse t-shirt (always vintage, always ironic).

my call is that Disney's been selling the same t-shirt for as long as I can remember. Maybe it's your perception that's changed.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

um, http://www.r-and-b1988.com/klothing-photo/von-sig-bk.jpg
Why am I still seeing these?

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes yes but what does it mean?

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

it means somebody paid $14.95!

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

usehelvetica.com

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

is that "brains" pic lucinda williams?

g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Nope.

http://www.cmt.com/sitewide/assets/img/artists/williams_lucinda/lucindawilliams15-280x336.jpg

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.wrrg.org/indie_page/black_flag_indie.jpg

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Just because Black Flag did it, doesn't give any of you an excuse.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

because Black Flag did it is a good enough reason for me.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

What Would Henry Rollins Do?

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

although in that picture Chuck Biscuits is the coolest looking one.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Fine. I expect all of you to be living underneath an office desk by next week. Don't forget to practice twice a day, six days a week.

(You have to earn those tees and blazers, people!)

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I like lacoste polo shirts but that might be part of my endless efforts to wear things like my dad would have worn in the late 80s.


t-shirts with writing scrawled all over them, but not ones that are too urban outfitters, you can get them there though!

I got a nice carharrt stripey frenchman/freddie krueger type t-shirt last week. it is logoless and quite nice I think. black and white stripes. I dunno I buy way too many of my clothes in Urban Outfitters cos I get 40 percent discount now and anyway Dublin has no good clothes shops.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

if I dyed my hair blonde I'd be halfway to Biscuits (but still nowhere near as good a drummer).

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Stencil their “TV Party” video look is strangely less punk than usual, very contemporary-urbanwear.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

uh, nabisco, have you not seen the pictures I've posted?

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.bandwormrecords.de/shop/catalog/images/shirts/black-flag-schwarz-shirt.gif

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah lacoste polo shirts are good. (totally golf, though.)

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

("though".)

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

It was more casual and everyday-guy than even those pics, Stencil! Plus bright colors and at least one trucker hat. Even one of those black Communist-looking hats everyone was rocking during the winter. Seriously uncanny.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

"Communist-looking"????!?

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

ah, the mao hat.

come to think, the pics from the rites of spring cd look like they could be from this year.

g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to live with some dudes who rocked the cossack.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I forgot to mention that right now I'm wearing a T-shirt that says "Say nice things about Detroit" on it and has a picture of a guy getting manhandled by two other sinister looking fellows. I bought it in Ann Arbor. It's not ironic or anything, I've owned it for about 16 years. My favorite shirts are of places, like my favorite bars Jimbo's and the Velvet Lounge. I also like T-shirts I get for free.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe your wearing it isn't ironic, but isn't the actual content of the shirt a textbook form of irony?

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I just like blatant fangirl tshirt stuff, like my Pucca tshirt, or my goth Betty Boop one (which I seem to have lost).

Also, things like Fast Show/Viz/Futurama slogans/pics would rock but I can never find one I like.

Wouldn't give a rats if anyone thought I looked daft. But I *am* very tired of young goth things who hated punk and metal 10 minutes ago suddenly all wearing Misfits/Cramps/Iron Maiden/KISS/GnR tshirts. NEW ones. Ugh.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe your wearing it isn't ironic, but isn't the actual content of the shirt a textbook form of irony?

Oh yeah, totally; I actually realized that was a bit unclear after I made the post.

I think the shirt was operating on multiple levels, actually. Yeah, the text of the shirt itself = totally ironic and meant to send-up an old 70s Detroit Chamber of Commerce slogan. It's like, "well, THIS slogan is certainly quite goofy, let's bring out the subtext -- you will get your ass kicked here so check yourself.". But it's also very much affirming the underlying message of the original slogan, which really meant "As bad as it occasionally is, let us take pride in where we live", only intensifying the message with the visual component to impart the idea that residents would defend her honor by any means necessary!!

I think I was more drawn to the latter reading when I purchased it. Because I really liked the city, and still do. Which is why I continue wear the T-shirt, unironically.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd post the links, open old debates, exhume old wounds and dust off new arguments about ironic heavy metal/punk kitch chic, but y'ever notice that the search function don't work so good when you use Safari? Sucks, that.

In any event, if you're wearing a band t-shirt, my stridently held belief is that unless you're a fan of the band in question (and can summarily name at least three songs by same), you're a fuckin' poseur. DON'T FLY THE COLORS UNLESS YOU'VE PUT IN THE HOURS!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

kitsch, I should say.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd post the links, open old debates, exhume old wounds and dust off new arguments about ironic heavy metal/punk kitch chic,

please let's not

amateur!!st, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahaha

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

COED NAKED LACROSS JELLO SHOT CLUB

Big Johnson?

Angus Von Santana, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing is, I think almost all of my shirts are "ironic" except I don't wear them for ironic reasons and it makes me sad to think that people might think my Poison t-shirt is an ironic acoutrement :(

What I actually really hate is two things, one that I bought that "Everyone Loves An Irish Girl" t-shirt as a funny thing to wear on St. Patrick's Day, when UO just made that shirt and had only like 4 of them in the store and they didn't have a huge line of "Everyone Loves ____" shirts but then they made 8 trillion of them and every like 1/100th Irish girl bought that shirt and started wearing them, not on St. Patrick's Day but all the time and I had to set that shirt on fire. Two is when people wear shirts that imply that the wearer is really sexy or great in bed or a pimp or similiarly sexual nonsense, I mean if the person wearing the shirt is really fine why would they need a shirt announcing it? Wouldn't we be able to just tell without them wearing a shirt that says "LAYDEEZ ALL WANNA FUCK ME" or whatever?

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

vice magazine put that best: anyone who wears a tshirt that says "porn star" will suck your dick like a fourth-grader.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i saw a homeless woman wearing a "you can't handle this" t-shirt the other day

amateur!!st, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw one girl wearing a "Porn Star" tshirt paired with one of those sparkly logo belts that say "SEXY" on it. I was like, wow, dude, you totally are a virgin aren't you?

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Did everyone do what I just did and like overload with jokes about Vice and fourth graders to the point where you couldn't choose which one to post?

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't wanna know how Vice dudes know how 4th graders suck dick.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

only one joke there, I thought.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes.

xpost. hstencil went there.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Do people still wear shirts with their names or initials on it? I didn't like that trend much either. I kind of do always want to wear a shirt with someone else's name or initials on it though.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i think the article was actually written by a woman (though my memory is hazy).

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

she has a dick?

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

har har

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not joking!

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

okay, maybe I am a little bit. : (

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

You should get a tshirt that says "PRANKSTER" on it, hstencil.

OH I also dislike tshirts that have the '50s style cartoons on it with dirty sayings on them. And the Che Guevara tshirts.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.af.mil/media/photodb/web/web_040301-F-5343T-002.jpg

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I should do that, Allyzay, because nobody laughs at my jokes and much like virgins who wear "pornstar" shirts, I like to make believe that I am something I'm not.

Boo.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

A few years before the whole initial-shirts trend, I found a black shirt with a big loopy "J" in rhinestones. Loved that shirt. Now it just sits in my drawer. Boo.

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

The Che Guevera shirts with the Nike swoosh on his beret are particularly distasteful. xpost

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

nobody wears che guevara tshirts. quit reading the national review already!

g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

http://i.timeinc.net/time/time100/images/main_guevara.jpg

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I seen like ten people wearing them!

I think people in the military should try my idea of wearing shirts with other people's names on them, trade shirts and see what happens. Hilarity, I'm pretty sure.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.pocho.com/tshirts/magnets/che2kMAGNET.jpg

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually dated someone who had a Che Guevara tshirt but he never wore it.

He preferred to actually dress like Che Guevara.

it was really kind of offputting sometimes.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never owned a piece of clothing with someone else's name or initials on it. In fact, I've only ever bought one T-Shirt that I can think of, which was a Cleveland Browns T-shirt, purchased in Cleveland in 1997 after they'd moved out of town. I wanted to honor their memory.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

bought one T-Shirt at a thrift store, should say...

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

one is only allowed to wear the che shirt if they are riding a moped.

kephm, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

A friend of mine has a tshirt that he made. It has a picture of himself on it.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Is your friend Gene Simmons?

http://www.kissasylum.com/photos/Kendall_Genet1.jpeg

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish!

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Sort've off topic here, but I saw a girl a couple of weeks ago wearing a one of theose "toy boy" belts (like the kind Madonna used to wear circa "Lucky Star"), only instead of "Star" or "Babe" or "Bling" or anything like that, it simply read BIBLE, which scared me.

Urban Outfitters is a fucking scourge.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

A belt that says "BIBLE" is kind of awesome.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Ally is your friend Usher?

n.a. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i used to have a shirt that said 'blount...james blount' on it! and in my bike/breakdancing gang in third grade we used to cut the sleeves off our t-shirts and then write 'beat it' on them! grrr!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

A belt that says "BIBLE" is kind of awesome.

I find it unspeakably creepy.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a BIBLE BELT people! Can I get one with "RUST" on it?

n.a. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i see all kinds of hipster accoutrements modified to read "WWJD"

well, not that often, but it happens

amateur!!st, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

i can't believe everyone but n.a. was sleeping on the "bible belt" pun

amateur!!st, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a pair of underpants that say "WWJD" on the back. My mom bought them for me. She was being ironic :\

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

The Old Navy ironic shirts are great for work or any activity where they're going to get torn up or painted on. Soft, light and cheap.

http://www.moonlightgraham.com/ - where the line between ironic and throwback gets blurred.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

some of those moonlight graham tees are nice (too pricy for me though).

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a pair of underpants that say "WWJD" on the back. My mom bought them for me. She was being ironic :\

So, when used unironically, are these supposed to function as anal sex chastity belts?

n.a. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

that's why it was ironic!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I bought a used mechanic's shirt once with a patch that said "Bruce" and it freaked out all these people who even knew my name and they'd be like -- wait, is your name really bruce and not even ironic about it. And then the ppl that were "ironic" about it were even worse!

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you suggesting that that young lady's "bible" belt was being worn ironically? (i.e. "get it? It's a Bible Belt! har har!") I took it as a more literal endorsement, personally.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know if she was wearing it ironically, but the manufacturers almost certainly intended the pun. The word "Bible" by itself seems like an odd choice for something intended to be pro-religion or whatever. I guess it's possible though.

n.a. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

"yayyyyyyyyy BIBLE! go team go!"

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

"leviticus 11:44" wouldn't really fit on a belt

amateur!!st, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

but the manufacturers...

Err...you do know that these are custom made, right? You walk in to the store and tell them whatever word (I believe there's a five letter limit) and they...er...weld it together for you. It's not like there's some factory in Indonesia manufacturing Bible belts.

My friend has one that says "SCHMUCK".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh I didn't realize that's what you were talking about. In that case, the pun was probably just a case of beautiful synchronicities in the world colliding or something. It kind of makes me appreciate it more.

n.a. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost - that's seven letters.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.yukka.co.uk/images/customgear.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

there's always the possibility that you misread it, too.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Never worn an ironic T-shirt in my life. I do honestly like the bands!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

there's always the possibility that you misread it, too.

No, it very definetely said "bible".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe it was "BIBBIE" and it was in honor of her grandmother.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

...or maybe she's a big Tolkienophile, and it read "BILBO", but no....it very definetely said "Bible".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

what are you doing looking at young girls' "swimsuit areas" anyway? You're married!

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost - that's seven letters.
-- hstencil (hstenc!...), August 25th, 2004.

that would explain the rash of "SCHMU" belts

amateur!!st, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

"leviticus 11:44" wouldn't really fit on a belt
I am the LORD your God; consecrate yourselves and be holy, because I am holy. Do not make yourselves unclean by any creature that moves about on the ground.
"Unclean by any creature that moves about on the ground" would make for a fun t-shirt.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.schmoo.org/schmoo6.gif

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

campo fribbington 1988

160 posts after the fact.... (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

what are you doing looking at young girls' "swimsuit areas" anyway? You're married!

Hey man, I can still look.....besides, it's hard to miss an oversized, shiny, bejeweled belt bearing block capital letters.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

dude I was setting you up for a "that's below the belt" joke, oh well.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Does "No pricks" in small lettering underneath a cartoon of a porcupine cut the mustard?

Krusty, Thursday, 26 August 2004 06:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think it was ironic, but I saw a girl wearing a shirt last week with a picture of a pirate (hat, eye-patch, big mustache, in need of a shave, hoop earing, etc.) and beneath it read:

"PIRATES ARRRRRRRRRRRRRE COOL!"


....which made me laugh.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

is that ironic or just, y'know, fun?

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the latter.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

the only t-shirt with any sort of message on it i have is a red t with white iron on letters that says "I'M EXCELLENT". because i am.


really, ask h. excellent.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I've become a really big fan of white hanes t-shirts with weird shit written on them in sharpie. I bought a 3-pack yesterday, and I'm trying to think up ideas. So far, all I've got is:

"Yeah, I'm pervving on you." for the back of one. That allows 5 other spaces. Ideas?

x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, otto is excellent, it's true.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

(thanks h, check's in the mail)

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I want that pirate t-shirt!

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I want ideas! Would writing the pirate one be acceptable, or would it dilute the coolness of the idea?

x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I made a pretty cool shirt once with a crude duct tape stencil and red spray paint. It had a stick drawing of a shark and said SHARK REVOLUTION on it. It ended up being too small for me though.

n.a. (Nick A.), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

jeremy, dude, people have been doing that for years , so just write anything. maybe "nobody walks in La" and wearit while you walk everywhere, or did you get your car yet?

kephm, Friday, 27 August 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

i once wrote "check out my filas" on my white t shirt (and i was always wearing combat boots) but that was more of an inside joke than anything

kephm, Friday, 27 August 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Finally got the car, but I'm too poor to afford gas. So I'm back to square zero, or one. Oh, I know what I can write on one:

Tragicomic shit.

x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

http://www.collegegear.com/sf/stores/product_images/164967.jpg

Filey Camp, Friday, 7 September 2007 13:11 (eighteen years ago)


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