"i have a confession to make to you, baron: you are a CROOK!": the ERNST LUBITSCH poll

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i left most stuff before 1927 out (and the foreign-lang alternates of his american films) because i'm pretty sure one of the full-length films is gonna win anyway, sorry silent headz

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Trouble in Paradise (1932) 4
To Be or Not to Be (1942) 4
Ninotchka (1939) 2
The Shop Around the Corner (1940) 2
Heaven Can Wait (1943) 1
One Hour with You (1932) 1
Broken Lullaby (1932) 1
The Smiling Lieutenant (1931) 0
Monte Carlo (1930) 0
Paramount on Parade (1930) 0
The Patriot (1928) 0
Eternal Love (1929) 0
The Love Parade (1929) 0
That Lady in Ermine (1948) 0
If I Had a Million (1932) (segment "The Clerk") 0
Design for Living (1933) 0
The Merry Widow (1934) 0
Angel (1937) 0
Bluebeard's Eighth Wife (1938) 0
That Uncertain Feeling (1941) 0
A Royal Scandal (1945) 0
Cluny Brown (1946) 0
The Student Prince in Old Heidelberg (1927) 0


lyndonna larouge (donna rouge), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 19:47 (seventeen years ago)

Only seen 'The Smiling Lieutenant' & 'One Hour With You', and the latter is SAUCY even for pre-code. Chevalier's vaudeville habit of delivering asides & singing songs directly to the camera now comes off as light years ahead, and the gender relations are just... yeah they just do not make films like this any more

Adolph: You have a right to be wrong. You're a woman. Women are born to be wrong. I like my women... wrong! (seizes her, goes for the kiss)

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 20:29 (seventeen years ago)

think i've only seen 'trouble in paradise', 'to be or not to be' & 'ninotchka' -- out of those 'ninotchka' takes it for me easily - the restaurant scene w/ douglas telling the drawn-out joke is aces

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 21:10 (seventeen years ago)

'Trouble in Paradise' by a mile. I've seen 'The Smiling Lieutenant', 'Design for Living', 'The Merry Widow', 'Bluebeard's Eighth Wife', 'Ninotchka', 'The Shop Around the Corner', and 'To Be or Not to Be', but nothing matches the pacing and humor of 'TiP'.

La plus perdue de toutes les journées est celle où l’on n’a pas (Michael White), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 21:19 (seventeen years ago)

I think I've seen 14 of these! (plus some of the earlier silents at Film Forum retro a couple years back)

Trouble in Paradise.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 21:22 (seventeen years ago)

to be or not to be is one of my favourite movies ever.

s1ocki, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 23:10 (seventeen years ago)

meh i could not really deal with how unlikeable the main character in "Trouble" is and I thought everyone around him behaved v. unrealistically.

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 23:11 (seventeen years ago)

SCHULTZ!!!

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Gaston, unlikeable?!

La plus perdue de toutes les journées est celle où l’on n’a pas (Michael White), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 23:12 (seventeen years ago)

wouldn't have voted for it but missing 'the marriage circle' is some bullshit. it's full-length too (as are most of his silents).

Brohan Hari, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 23:18 (seventeen years ago)

Btw, there's a little inside joke of sorts in 'TiP'. Notice how Lubitsch has Herbert Marshall's character run up and down the stairs so much? It's a double. Marshall lost a leg in WWI.

Come to think of it, I think I did see 'The Marriage Circle'.

La plus perdue de toutes les journées est celle où l’on n’a pas (Michael White), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 23:21 (seventeen years ago)

oops. i admittedly haven't seen/know little about the silent stuff xp

lyndonna larouge (donna rouge), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 23:32 (seventeen years ago)

tbh you'd be mad to vote silent over sound but he was a huge deal in the silent era.

Brohan Hari, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 23:53 (seventeen years ago)

Trouble in Paradise or Shop around the Corner. The first is funnier, the second is beautiful.

bamcquern, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 00:40 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

aw i voted "ninotchka" before i remembered that "trouble in paradise" is lubitsch. love them both

horseshoe, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 00:05 (seventeen years ago)

I haven't seen all of those movies, of course, but:

#1 Heaven Can Wait
#2 Ninotschka
#3 To Be Or Not To Be
#4 Trouble in Paradise

Naked like a bunch (Trackpants Tree), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 00:20 (seventeen years ago)

I can't recall but I think I threw a pity vote to Broken Lullaby aka The Man I Killed. As a serious (and, ok, a bit maudlin) plea for peace, love, and understanding, it's been lost in all the effervescence surrounding it. But it's more sensitively directed than Heaven Can Wait, Ninotchka, or To Be Or Not To Be. And I'd say the same for several of the silents which, right, should have been included.

Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 00:57 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 8 January 2009 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

Not a very big turnout. Billy Wilder is somewhere up above crying into his schmaltz at the way you treated his hero.

ilx chilton (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 January 2009 02:03 (seventeen years ago)

I missed this one.

The Shop Around the Corner is one of my very, very favorite films, so that would get my vote. But opening sequence of Trouble in Paradise is magic and love Garbo ("The latest trials went well. There are fewer but better Russians.") in Ninotchka

Hubie Brown, Thursday, 8 January 2009 03:04 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

The last third of Heaven Can Wait is pretty moving – people keep disappearing from Don Ameche's life as he gets older – and there's a dance b/w him and Gene Tierney that's Ophuls-esque in its summoning of nostalgia and sadness. But, wow, I don't like Ameche: too starchy and smug. Charles Coburn and Eugene Pallette and the black butler (who looks like wandered in out of a Sturges picture) steal this.

Eugene Pallette should be in every movie.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 March 2009 15:58 (seventeen years ago)

if he had lived in the CGI era he'd have played a bullfrog at some point.

like HCW a lot, and the Sarris-Haskell chat on the disc.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 12 March 2009 16:02 (seventeen years ago)

Eugene Pallette should be in every movie.

Pity he was such a right-wing nut.

It is not enough to love mankind – you must be able to stand (Michael White), Thursday, 12 March 2009 16:10 (seventeen years ago)

i saw 'that uncertain feeling' recently...its premise is fairly cute but as it went on none of the conflict really felt real & it was odd that the leads went so far as to actually get divorced only to inevitably get back together

johnny crunch, Thursday, 12 March 2009 16:14 (seventeen years ago)

'ninotchka' was not quite as good as i remembered it. way too slow and soggy after the first hour.

'shop around the corner' is one of the most perfect movies ever.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 12 March 2009 18:13 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

Saw Die Begkatze ('The Wildcat') at the Goethte Institut last night. It's a 'mountain comedy', i.e. slapstick in the snow starring Pola Negri and it was pretty funny.

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 15:25 (seventeen years ago)

I loved you as a crook! I worshipped you as a crook! Please don't be another good for nothing gigolo!

defensive of decent LOLs (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 15:33 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, that's the best line in that one.

moe greene dolphin street (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 15:48 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

Cluny Brown at Film Forum, New York film nerds. Please check it out: like Holiday, one of the oddest, most beautiful of American films; its tone is unique. Charles Boyer, Jennifer Jones, and Peter Lawford are expert.

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 December 2010 01:25 (fifteen years ago)

Also: since it's Christmas time, please rent The Shop Around the Corner.

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 December 2010 01:27 (fifteen years ago)

Really? The calendar says The Conformist. Oh, I see, thanks.

The Decline of British Cat Power (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 December 2010 01:40 (fifteen years ago)

cluny brown is fucking aces

I spilled, saucer-eyed, into the Tonetta fanclub underground. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 19 December 2010 03:38 (fifteen years ago)

I was watching The Shop Around The Corner last night for maybe the eighty-eighth time. It just gets everything right, it all sticks. Those last ten minutes, especially with that sudden turn toward extreme intimacy at the last moments. are just the most amazing thing. Margaret Sullavan staring at the empty post box - wow.

R Baez, Sunday, 19 December 2010 03:50 (fifteen years ago)

four months pass...

which ernst lubitsch movie should i watch tonite

flopson, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

2 b or not 2 b

anime hitler, the futanari führer (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

yeah?

flopson, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

You know that great, great Polish actor, Joseph Tura?

stars on 45 my destination (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

He's world famous in Poland!

Concatenated without abruption (Michael White), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:39 (fifteen years ago)

two months pass...

Trouble In Paradise is playing tomorrow and Monday at the FF with a similarly themed and casted William Dieterle movie called Jewel Robbery.

Scharlach Sometimes (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 6 August 2011 23:38 (fourteen years ago)

four months pass...

just saw Design For Living and could not believe it. kept waiting for the morality play, the downer ending, the comeuppance and man Miriam just gets the happiest ending imaginable, this film is from the future

Milton Parker, Monday, 2 January 2012 23:08 (fourteen years ago)

would have voted for this over One Hour With You if I'd known

Milton Parker, Monday, 2 January 2012 23:09 (fourteen years ago)

i watched trouble in paradise with a girl over the holiday break and she squealed joyously through most of it.
kind of a keeper, that one.

do you want me to share what i know w/ you or not? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 00:15 (fourteen years ago)

If any man I see looks at his watch during Trouble in Paradise I ask him to leave this apartment immediately.

(I've never done this but want to)

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 00:21 (fourteen years ago)

seattle peeps Trouble in Paradise is showing at the Grand Illusion this week

JoeStork, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 08:57 (fourteen years ago)

nine months pass...

Hoberman on the restored '22 Loves of Pharaoh:

http://blogs.artinfo.com/moviejournal/2012/10/17/live-from-the-kingdom-of-the-dead-lubitsch%E2%80%99s-lavish-1922-%E2%80%9Cloves-of-pharaoh%E2%80%9D/

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 October 2012 18:38 (thirteen years ago)

damn, that looks fascinating

let's have sex and then throw pottery (forksclovetofu), Friday, 19 October 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

Would love to see it, but don't think I can get there.

Cosmic Fopp (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 October 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

Morbs, are you going?

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Saturday, 20 October 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

I am in shitty condition today... But I think I saw it at Film Forum in 2003! Never big on Egypt epics, really.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 October 2012 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

ok, i dont think i did see it.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 October 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

two months pass...

haha

@pareene
There is really an unnecessarily large number of people working at Mr. Matuschek's store every day

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 January 2013 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

fuckin' Cluny Brown still unavailable on DVD in America.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 January 2013 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

(xp)
B-b-b-but it was the Christmas rush!

The Teardrop ILXplodes (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 January 2013 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpfSP-EJXI8

an old penis drawing is now "new and notable" (forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 January 2013 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

also, you'll need a pal player but i have to assume you have one
http://www.amazon.com/Cluny-Brown-NON-USA-FORMAT-Import/dp/B0041KXFDO

an old penis drawing is now "new and notable" (forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 January 2013 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

i got my copy from TCM on Tivo and goddamn, it's a winner

an old penis drawing is now "new and notable" (forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 January 2013 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

three months pass...

just rewatched Design for Living on Criterion... Milton is right, cept as the guy doing the commentary suggests that the ending is a bit dark; after all, they are going back to poverty to live 'outside society.'

March's take when Hopkins (who is just great) says "Something happened to me that usually only happens to a man" is a highlight.

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 April 2013 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

I can't believe that bum EE Horton put the whole thing on YT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fha0SlGIpM0

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 April 2013 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

I watched the Criterion edition last week too. The movie's too cute by half, I think.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 April 2013 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

pish tosh

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 April 2013 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

Needs the morning newspaper thrown at his head.

What About The Half That's Never Been POLLed (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 April 2013 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

watching those three marvelous actors on that train, going for laughs when no laugh track exists

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 April 2013 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

there was an audience at some point you know in December '33

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 April 2013 14:02 (thirteen years ago)

People laugh during the gaps in Laurel & Hardy films too -- honest!

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 April 2013 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

when it ended I watched Cluny Brown for the 400th time.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 April 2013 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

one month passes...

rewatched Trouble In Paradise, forgot that fellow eunuch Charlie Ruggles is the bane of EE Horton's existence.

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

Armond on Bogdanovich & Lubitsch:

http://cityarts.info/2013/06/10/at-long-last-lubitsch/

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

of course he loves at long last love. here's cybill shepherd talking about it: http://www.rogerebert.com/balder-and-dash/cybill-shepherd-on-at-long-last-love. pity i can't find a clip of madeline kahn doing 'down in the depths on the 90th floor', she really is the highlight of a dreary dreary movie.

balls, Thursday, 13 June 2013 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

two months pass...

on Lubitsch and the great Jack Benny:

http://www.criterion.com/current/posts/2888-how-to-film-jack-benny

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 September 2013 18:29 (twelve years ago)

eight months pass...

A new critical anthology:

http://www.fandor.com/keyframe/in-times-like-these-lubitsch-cant-wait

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:43 (twelve years ago)

two months pass...

Saw Die Begkatze ('The Wildcat') at the Goethte Institut last night. It's a 'mountain comedy', i.e. slapstick in the snow starring Pola Negri and it was pretty funny.

― Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 3:25 PM (5 years ago)

Yeah, the sets in that are amazing; also 1919's Die Puppe / The Doll:
http://silentsplease.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/die_puppe_1919_advert.jpg
http://silentsplease.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/13-die-puppe-ossi-chew-2.gif

http://silentsplease.wordpress.com/2014/07/18/die-puppe/

etc, Monday, 21 July 2014 09:11 (eleven years ago)

five months pass...

saw Shop again today (yesterday?), incredible. From "A little too much goose liver" to "Could you let me see your legs now?" Samson Raphaelson needs a shoutout as one of the great comedy writers.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 January 2015 10:10 (eleven years ago)

It stays in my mind as among the best written films I've ever seen.

MAYBE HE'S NOT THE BEST THIGH SLAPPER IN THE WORLD (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 January 2015 10:18 (eleven years ago)

watched it for the first time over the holidays – stunning. I knew very little about it, thought it would be a jolly enough romantic classic – wasn't ready for the wit's sharpness, the waves of unhappiness, the perfect construction. Amazing.

woof, Thursday, 1 January 2015 12:44 (eleven years ago)

closeup of Sullavan's hand failing to find Stewart's letter in mailbox.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 January 2015 13:23 (eleven years ago)

Unusual that despite the Budapest Hollywood conceit, almost all the set signage is in Hungarian.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 January 2015 17:55 (eleven years ago)

To make sure his film was stripped of the glamor usually associated with him, Lubitsch went to such lengths as ordering that a dress Sullavan had purchased off the rack for $1.98 be left in the sun to bleach and altered to fit poorly.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 January 2015 18:15 (eleven years ago)

This is his only non-glamourous picture, no?

Remember remarking upon Hungarian signage years ago, then forgetting.

Can We Be Shown Worldbuilders + Mike Harrison? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 January 2015 20:43 (eleven years ago)

love this movie. when i first saw it i knew it only as the nominal inspiration for You've Got Mail. It is, of course, infinitely better than that suggests.

[email protected] (stevie), Friday, 2 January 2015 16:01 (eleven years ago)

The YGM connection is the very reason that I have, if not outright avoided this film, than at least never made seeing it a priority. I should finally get on that. Next TCM airing, I promose.

MaudAddam (cryptosicko), Friday, 2 January 2015 19:02 (eleven years ago)

four months pass...

rewatched To Be or Not to Be over the weekend... not my fave as it gets too straight-ahead plotty now and then, but man, that "Dropping dynamite" line + Benny's takes.

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 June 2015 20:27 (eleven years ago)

We should POLL the silents. Or at least watch and report back.

Monstrous Moonshine Matinee (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 June 2015 20:42 (eleven years ago)

that great GREAT Polish actor

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 June 2015 21:11 (eleven years ago)

What he is doing to Shakespeare, we are doing to this thread.

Monstrous Moonshine Matinee (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 June 2015 21:33 (eleven years ago)

eight months pass...

wouldn't have voted for it but missing 'the marriage circle' is some bullshit.

i saw this yesterday at MoMA... It's the original of One Hour with You. Monte Blue, sort of the male lead, gets on my nerves a little, but the other 3 principals are a hoot (incl 'young' Adolphe Menjou and Marie Prevost, whose early demise was later scrutinized by Kenneth Anger and Nick Lowe).

https://www.google.com/search?q=lubitsch+marriage+circle&espv=2&biw=1262&bih=951&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj4u9mh1OjKAhWJ0h4KHY8RAMsQ_AUIBygC#tbm=isch&q=lubitsch+marriage+circle+egg&imgrc=TGpcBhOXXjJcyM%3A

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/thovena-actors/imgs/6/2/62ade80a.png

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 February 2016 17:19 (ten years ago)

three weeks pass...

just saw Design For Living and could not believe it. kept waiting for the morality play, the downer ending, the comeuppance and man Miriam just gets the happiest ending imaginable, this film is from the future

― Milton Parker, Monday, January 2, 2012 5:08 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark

just rewatched Design for Living on Criterion... Milton is right, cept as the guy doing the commentary suggests that the ending is a bit dark; after all, they are going back to poverty to live 'outside society.'

March's take when Hopkins (who is just great) says "Something happened to me that usually only happens to a man" is a highlight.

― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Sunday, April 14, 2013 8:34 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark

Wow, this is so good. I disagree with the Criterion commentary person – when they have their muse Gilda by their side, George and Tom do their best and most successful work and can live outside society with money. If they go back to live in their dingy little flat, it'll be by choice.

WilliamC, Sunday, 6 March 2016 03:36 (ten years ago)

one year passes...

another retro underway in NYC, but this has some things I don't remember being shown before at FF.

https://www.artforum.com/film/id=68825

http://filmforum.org/series/the-lubitsch-touch

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 June 2017 16:51 (nine years ago)

That Uncertain Feeling may be minor Lubitsch, but high marks to Burgess Meredith as an egomaniacal pianist whose idea of kicking off roleplay sex with Merle Oberon is bellowing "I AM WOTAN AND I HAVE COME TO EARTH!"

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 03:26 (nine years ago)

Saw a couple more Lubitsch silents, incl this cute crossdressing number:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=non55zCjx8Y

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:50 (eight years ago)

and the other a sort of Taming of the Shrew in Bavaria. Emil Jannings in a comedy lead!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8Vn1I_Wdi0

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:55 (eight years ago)

one month passes...

For my 23rd E.L. film, a sorta reverse Taming of the Shrew, Bluebeard's Eighth Wife. Solid, funny second-tier Lubitsch, written by Wilder and Brackett.

Gary Cooper is much funnier with Ernst than with Capra, and Claudette Colbert pulls off one of those impossible good-natured wife-as-avenger roles. Very screwball: there's an early confrontation between Edw Ev Horton and Franklin Pangborn! Young David Niven surprisingly well-fit in a supporting schlemiel role.

http://www.rowthree.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Bluebeards-Eighth-Wife.jpg

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 August 2017 14:40 (eight years ago)

one month passes...

The Oyster Princess is probably the funniest of his silents that I've seen, with spatial gags and knockout, staircase-laden sets that reminded me of... Jerry Lewis! A must-see (on Kino disc).

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 September 2017 17:13 (eight years ago)

http://deeperintomovies.net/journal/image11/oysterprincess2.jpg

http://deeperintomovies.net/journal/archives/6520

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 September 2017 17:15 (eight years ago)

wow that looks great, some amazing shots in that link

rob, Friday, 15 September 2017 17:29 (eight years ago)

The Oyster Princess seconded.

Star Star City Slang (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 September 2017 15:36 (eight years ago)

one year passes...

new bio by Joseph McBride

Everything is explained, every rabbit hole is excavated; virtually every film given what in some other book would be a casual mention is examined here in Talmudic detail. If you think, “I wish I knew more about that” about a movie or star, read on; you will. (His treatment of Mary Pickford’s possible anti-Semitic loathing of Lubitsch, and their collaboration on 1923’s “Rosita,” is a good example of exhaustive exploration.) But he also makes us believe Lubitsch deserves it, as do his evergreen films.

https://www.americamagazine.org/arts-culture/2018/08/31/director-who-defined-classic-hollywood

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 November 2018 22:01 (seven years ago)

Oh, this is excellent news - I absolutely adored his Capra biog back when I was in college

Jacob Lohl (stevie), Friday, 16 November 2018 14:37 (seven years ago)

that was a massive one; i never finished it.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 November 2018 15:20 (seven years ago)

There have been some other Lubitsch books over the years but don’t recall a really good one so looking forward to this.

Buckaroo Can't Fail (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 November 2018 15:24 (seven years ago)

two weeks pass...

I am only now, at last, watching a Lubitsch film ("Trouble In Paradise") for the first time and I'm thinking, "Uh oh. New favorite."

An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 2 December 2018 23:57 (seven years ago)

have McBride book from library

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 December 2018 15:03 (seven years ago)

two weeks pass...

The full schedule for To Save and Project, MoMA's annual festival of film preservation, is now on line! We open with the premiere of our own restoration of Ernst Lubitsch's FORBIDDEN PARADISE! https://t.co/J066veI356 pic.twitter.com/L3dATE6QzB

— MoMA Film (@MoMAFilm) December 13, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 December 2018 20:38 (seven years ago)

three weeks pass...

Pola Negri is quite the spitfire in Wildcat.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 January 2019 20:49 (seven years ago)

six months pass...

Just watched Cluny Brown, and it is great fun - Jennifer Jones is wonderful in it

SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Thursday, 1 August 2019 09:13 (six years ago)

Just watched her firstborn do an interpretive dance in Easy Rider

U or Astro-U? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 August 2019 12:16 (six years ago)

Is that the daughter who committed suicide?

SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Thursday, 1 August 2019 12:49 (six years ago)

No, Robert Walker Jr., but that was a good question

U or Astro-U? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 August 2019 13:55 (six years ago)

one year passes...

The scene where Mr. Matuschek quietly, in an attempt to salvage his dignity, hangs around the shop hoping one of his employees invites him home for Christmas Eve is so perfectly paced that I convulse.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 December 2020 02:43 (five years ago)

So much stuff in that so well done. Maybe I already commented on it up thread, but I love the scene where the big display pile of boxes gets knocked over, there is stillness for a beat or two, and then they all scramble to restack them.

Whamagideon Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 December 2020 02:49 (five years ago)

Like, yes, all these people actually work in this place. Which I dunno when else I have ever thought that, maybe The Mary Tyler Moore Show.

Whamagideon Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 December 2020 02:51 (five years ago)

I've been watching the shit out of Lubitsch lately (from the beginning of his talkie career, mostly in order). He's delightful and a new favorite. The Eclipse set of his musicals is one of the best Criterion purchases I've made in a while. Gonna watch Shop Around the Corner for the first time at some point over the next couple of days.

Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 24 December 2020 05:35 (five years ago)

Yes that Eclipse thing is good

Whamagideon Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 December 2020 05:46 (five years ago)

Watching Shop Around the Corner tonight, love it forever & always

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 December 2020 06:03 (five years ago)

how much is that belt in the window? the one that says $2.95?

...it’s 2.95

oh no...

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 December 2020 06:09 (five years ago)

Like, yes, all these people actually work in this place.

Exactly this. Matuschek's combination of solicitude and distance -- he knows just enough about Flora living with her mother and no more and doesn't wanna know -- is exactly how bosses are.

The only dud: the actor playing Pepi is straight out of MGM overemoting.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 December 2020 10:28 (five years ago)

i still like when he gives Mrs Matuschek the business over the phone though

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 December 2020 16:44 (five years ago)

Eh, I like Pepi. I always suspect he's off to pick up a prostitute at the end of the film, but maybe I'm reading it wrong.

Langdon Alger Stole the Highlights (cryptosicko), Thursday, 24 December 2020 17:16 (five years ago)

He is!

I like when he mutters to Rudi, "Too much. "

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 December 2020 17:30 (five years ago)

yes! love that

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 December 2020 17:35 (five years ago)

It’s true that Pepi seems to be phoning in from a different movie, as Alfred suggests, but I don’t mind him.

Whamagideon Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 December 2020 18:31 (five years ago)

he's the comic relief to a comedy!
died super young

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 24 December 2020 23:35 (five years ago)

Will have to look that up. Also, what's the deal with Schildkraut again, I forget.

And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 December 2020 23:37 (five years ago)

He played Dreyfus!

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 December 2020 23:55 (five years ago)

Shop was great! Positively chaste, though, compared to the endless sexcapades I've grown accustomed to in Lubitsch's pre-Code work. I'm kinda just letting it settle over me at the moment but I can see why it's a perennial holiday favorite.

Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Friday, 25 December 2020 04:29 (five years ago)

The quaver in Sullavan's voice is sex.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 December 2020 10:35 (five years ago)

i've only watched 2 lubitches so far, To Be Or Not To Be which i found to be the greatest comedy i've ever seen, and Heaven Can Wait, which i didn't like at all

flopson, Sunday, 27 December 2020 18:01 (five years ago)

That’s about right

And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 December 2020 18:02 (five years ago)

ha, I like HCW okay, but it's definitely at the bottom of the list of the ones I've seen, p surprised it got even one vote in the thread poll.

TBONTB is amazing. Trouble in Paradise would probably be the consensus rec on what to watch next—and it's fantastic—but I might suggest Ninotchka or The Shop around the Corner instead.

rob, Sunday, 27 December 2020 18:48 (five years ago)

Trouble in Paradise is super necessary. Shop Around the Corner is roughly comparable but less mannered.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 27 December 2020 21:20 (five years ago)

Prefer The Shop but Trouble pretty good too.

And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 December 2020 21:28 (five years ago)

Also Design for Living and Cluny Brown.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Sunday, 27 December 2020 21:32 (five years ago)

DFL is high on my list of need-to-rewatch; I think the premise misled me to expect something much wilder, so I wasn't sure what I thought of it the one time I saw it. I got Cluny Brown (and Holiday; #onethread) for xmas

rob, Sunday, 27 December 2020 21:38 (five years ago)

Cluny Brown has long been a favorite. Charles Boyer handles pages and pages of English-in-every-sense dialogue like a pro.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 December 2020 22:07 (five years ago)

Charles Boyer so good, but never got into that movie, sorry.

And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 December 2020 22:08 (five years ago)

i fuggin LOVE cluny brown and i mention this at least once a year but jennifer jones in chirrupy mode is peak sexy in that film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6F9GQ3VlXw

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 27 December 2020 22:57 (five years ago)

The only films in which I can stand her are this, Beat the Devil, and Duel in the Sun, though I should watch Portrait of Jennie

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 December 2020 22:59 (five years ago)

Nuts to the squirrels!

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 December 2020 22:59 (five years ago)

Where do we stand on his Maurice Chevalier films? I've only seen The Smiling Lieutenant, which does have a bit of the touch, but I'm just not wild about the star's persona.

Langdon Alger Stole the Highlights (cryptosicko), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:38 (five years ago)

I really like a few of them.

And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:43 (five years ago)

Two with Jeanette MacDonald, One Hour With You and The Merry Widow, don’t think I’ve seen the others.

And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:45 (five years ago)

By which I mean The Love Parade and the non-Lubitsch Love Me Tonight.

And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:47 (five years ago)

He is really well-cast as a Lubitsch protagonist. He is also good in Lubitsch, um, disciple Billy Wilder’s Love in the Afternoon, although overall that film kind of bugs me.

And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:52 (five years ago)

Chevalier had one mode: chivalrous horndog. It works in his comedies, as long as you don't watch them too closely together. But it jars in Pièges, where he is supposed to be a suspect. (Stalker, yes, but sex murderer?)

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:56 (five years ago)

The Lubitsch/Chevalier films I've seen are delightful. The MacDonald minus Chevalier film (Monte Carlo) slightly less so (Jack Buchanan comes off as more of a creep than an impish cad).

Really wish either that Trouble in Paradise and The Merry Widow were available on blu-ray or that I was less uptight about buying them as-is (as I know the b-r announcement will drop immediately after I buy a lower-fi copy, as always).

Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Monday, 28 December 2020 00:02 (five years ago)

i find his musical stuff mostly unwatchable but that's more a personal prejudice than a critical judgment

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 28 December 2020 00:09 (five years ago)

This thread revive prompted us to watch Trouble in Paradise tonight, which I'd never seen. Total delight.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 28 December 2020 04:52 (five years ago)

Unsurprisingly, Cluny Brown was completely brilliant. So many great lines that won't sound that funny written out: "if England must produce more Belinskis, then we shall produce more Belinskis" and everything Betty Cream says to the two young men in the party scene.

We'd watched Emma. (2020) the previous night, which made for an inadvertently well-programmed double bill about class in England (though perhaps inevitably due to their respective sources, the 1946 film is sharper than the 2020), not to mention that Bill Nighy would fit into CB seamlessly.

rob, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 15:58 (five years ago)

the HONORABLE Betty Cream, thanks.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 16:00 (five years ago)

Nice to watch Peter Lawford score with a comedic role perfectly in his range.

The dinner scene with the roast beef.

Belinksi bumping into Cluny and Wilson when out walking.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 16:02 (five years ago)

I mean, the staging and body language sez it all:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/aDVTQlr16EHcHHLytRF9DDq5xuxdV93T7c4Pnur0CxCtU1ZHxfjRuj6uTET9VXyyJBwgaZIVy0cfkAcUXUVWlHyVHEzE7Shc_CtDNrTXqluKF_e8dCJ9JVKCL-N6e89a

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 16:12 (five years ago)

I know his rep but I don't think I'd previously seen Lawford in anything other than Advise & Consent, so he was a pleasant surprise.

Wilson was almost too effective as the pinched killjoy, spending entire minutes with his demonically mirthless family was a little rough, though I enjoyed the repeated gag of Boyer ringing the bell. Actually, all the recurring gags were good.

Great use of costuming in that still as well!

rob, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 16:15 (five years ago)

four months pass...

TCM premiere of So This Is Paris (1926), with a new score by Ben Model, tonight at 8pm EST. Be there or be dead to me.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Sunday, 9 May 2021 20:45 (five years ago)

five months pass...

Just saw Design for Living yesterday and it instantly became one of my all-time favorites. Practically perfect in every way. And with each additional Lubitsch film I see, he rises in the ranks of my all-time favorite directors.

knuckleheaded mornonic bafoon (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 14:38 (four years ago)

Yes that one's a delight! Who woulda thought straight laced Gary Cooper was up to polyamorous shenanigans back in the day.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 14:43 (four years ago)

If the rumors are true, Cooper had a pretty lively private life.

More interesting to me right now:
https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/attachments/three-women-blueband-jpg.117875/

Three Women (1924) is good news by itself, but could "The Ernst Lubitsch Collection" mean more titles from this period--So This Is Paris? Forbidden Paradise?

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Thursday, 4 November 2021 16:44 (four years ago)

seven months pass...

his bel air estate is up for sale for the first time in over sixty years

https://www.elliman.com/california/sales/detail/512-l-564-81_22166811/268-bel-air-rd-bel-air-los-angeles-ca-90077

would that i had $20 million bcz holy damn

donna rouge, Thursday, 16 June 2022 03:00 (four years ago)

omg how beautiful

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 June 2022 04:02 (four years ago)

Marvelling at that 5 bedroom : 8 bathroom ratio

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 16 June 2022 09:10 (four years ago)

two months pass...

Her husband is that great, great Polish actor, Joseph Tura. You’ve probably heard of him.

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 September 2022 22:17 (three years ago)

seven months pass...

_That Uncertain Feeling_ may be minor Lubitsch, but high marks to Burgess Meredith as an egomaniacal pianist whose idea of kicking off roleplay sex with Merle Oberon is bellowing "I AM WOTAN AND I HAVE COME TO EARTH!"

Just watched this sequence. Maybe even better than this is the bit leading up to this where Merle thinks her husband Melvyn Douglas is Meredith.

The Lubitsch Touchscreen (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 22 April 2023 15:42 (three years ago)

Keeks!

The Lubitsch Touchscreen (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 22 April 2023 20:06 (three years ago)

Dahling, why do you pinch my side and say “keeks”?

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 22 April 2023 20:10 (three years ago)

Keeks just keep getting harder to find.

The Lubitsch Touchscreen (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 22 April 2023 21:19 (three years ago)

For those not allergic to podcasts, this is a fun listen:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-would-lubitsch-do-it/id1656845615

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 24 April 2023 14:18 (three years ago)

Just noticed that That Uncertain Feeling was made between two of his biggest classics, The Shop Around the Corner and To Be or Not to Be.

The Lubitsch Touchscreen (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 April 2023 14:37 (three years ago)

I've hesitated. Merle Oberon and Melvyn Douglas are not my beau ideal of a magical pairing.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 April 2023 14:41 (three years ago)

it's a light watch

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 24 April 2023 15:53 (three years ago)

It’s worth seeing, ever if not top-tier Lubitsch as everyone acknowledges. And yeah, the fundamental triangle is flawed, there is more chemistry between Melvyn Douglas and Eve Arden than between him and Merle Oberon and her role in the end is unsympathetic, but her performance and presence are fine. Burgess Meredith character ultimately unlikable but still funny. There’s an amusing little bit by Sig Ruman as Mr. Kafka, the film could have used more of him. Despite all these caveats would watch again.

The Lubitsch Touchscreen (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 April 2023 16:31 (three years ago)

I think it’s easy to watch too since, if I read correctly, the copyright paperwork was damaged or lost at sea and, because the film was such a flop Lubitsch’s production partner didn’t want to bother to pay the $19.99 to refile so it is in the public domain.

The Lubitsch Touchscreen (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 April 2023 16:39 (three years ago)

$28.76. In England. Maybe it is actually copyrighted in the US.

The Lubitsch Touchscreen (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 April 2023 16:42 (three years ago)

six months pass...

I'd have voted for Cluny Brown today without hesitation. Its script, rhythm, Boyer, supporting cast -- perfect.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 November 2023 00:27 (two years ago)

Watched TROUBLE IN PARADISE the other night. Amazing. I feel like so many facets of this film were light years ahead, the timing and the acting and the writing and quite frequently the camerawork. The theft, the meeting of Gaston and Lily, the bewildered recollection is the theft, Gaston and Lily realizing just who the other really is...that whole opening stretch is A++ (the rest of the film vacillates between A and A+ for me.)

Design For Living is next up.

omar little, Sunday, 5 November 2023 23:59 (two years ago)

two months pass...

I just watched both of those for the first time on Criterion. I am now completely smitten with Miriam Hopkins.

Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 19:12 (two years ago)

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/47/73/72/477372e8d0a225cd436a903e65c060ad.gif

omar little, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 19:18 (two years ago)

Expiring soon, no?

Al Green Explores Your Mind Gardens (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 19:19 (two years ago)

Design for living with young hot fun cooper (instead of stoic, old, Captain America cooper) is pretty amazing

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 19:20 (two years ago)

Yep, tomorrow is last day for those two. xp

Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 19:39 (two years ago)

I watched Design for Living last week for that reason. A delight!

jaymc, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 19:56 (two years ago)

both excellent movies but i preferred design for living, partially because it has significantly more miriam hopkins. surprised it got no votes in this poll though maybe it was less easily accessible at the time?

na (NA), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 20:00 (two years ago)

Probably. Pre-Criterion it was stuck in Universal's budget Gary Cooper Franchise Collection.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 20:11 (two years ago)

If you wanna watch another Miriam Hopkins highlight, stream The Heiress, where she plays Olivia de Havilland's duplicitous aunt, herself in love with Montgomery Clift.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 21:37 (two years ago)

Followed up my Lubitsch double feature with something completely different: Easy Rider, which I had somehow never seen. I still have a contact high.

Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 14:08 (two years ago)

Uggggh, why won't they just put Design for Living out on Blu-ray already? These gaps in my Lubitsch collection are driving me nuts!

Just recently rewatched one of my favorite Outer Limits episodes and realized for the first time that it featured an unrecognizable Miriam Hopkins in full psychobiddy mode.

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/__P1bz4ZkkRA/TUYinnlBZWI/AAAAAAAACp8/z_FJdjSUvUE/s1600/screen-capture-1.png

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 15:05 (two years ago)

I'm still not as fond of Design for Living as I should be. I watched it last night and thought it needed to pick up the tempo. But! Daaaaamn, Coop is hot -- no wonder Fredric March can't stop ogling him.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 15:11 (two years ago)

Design for Living is on Criterion blu ray

rob, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 15:13 (two years ago)

Sorry, I meant Trouble in Paradise.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 15:28 (two years ago)

one year passes...

https://i.imgur.com/Zqq3HP1.jpg

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 July 2025 01:01 (eleven months ago)

I surrendered to the bullying on the best films thread and got To Be or Not To Be out of the library. It had a lot of nice touches but as a child of the 70s any depiction of "tricking the funny Nazis" is going to make me feel like I've stumbled on a rerun of Hogan's Heroes.
I did like The Shop on the Corner a lot, and a silent film called The Wildcat was surprisingly entertaining.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 15 July 2025 01:35 (eleven months ago)

Oyster King has some pretty good stuff in it

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 15 July 2025 12:10 (eleven months ago)

three months pass...

https://www.nga.gov/calendar/2025-annual-rajiv-vaidya-memorial-lecture-tom-gunning-perfect-films?evd=202512071900

Is Trouble in Paradise the perfect film? I don't know but I plan to give the lecturer a good listen. Anyone else interested in going?

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Thursday, 13 November 2025 15:10 (seven months ago)

two months pass...

It's Back in Blu & 4K: https://www.criterion.com/films/723-trouble-in-paradise

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 16 January 2026 17:26 (five months ago)

So great!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 January 2026 18:23 (five months ago)

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w99jdB3BH88

Yacht Club Boys - "The Super Special Picture of the Year"

a 1934 satirical song about his eminence

obvious old hat (rob), Wednesday, 11 February 2026 14:42 (four months ago)

Must've been Lubitsch night on TCM recently since there is a ton of stuff on demand right now.

Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 February 2026 22:19 (four months ago)

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf5o1eUORos

an uncharacteristically irritated Mr. Rogers (stevie), Saturday, 18 April 2026 16:33 (one month ago)


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