Tiger Woods car/life crash

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Alba, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link

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Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Friday, 27 November 2009 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Easy to jump to conclusions I know, but drunk? Hope he's okay anyhow.

The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Friday, 27 November 2009 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

:(

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Friday, 27 November 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

airbags didn't deploy, so < 30 mph, according to news.

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Friday, 27 November 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

The ESPN write-up points out that officers said it was NOT alcohol related, because of course everyone would assume if you hit a tree trying to leave your driveway you might be a bit buzzed. Strange accident.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Also 2.25 AM on a holiday.

The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Friday, 27 November 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe he was sniffing glue.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

they took pains to point it out, so it must be true

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Friday, 27 November 2009 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

I hope he's OK. No one wants to see him play like a spaz.

Alba, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

he's only 33? that makes me feel like i've done NOTHING with my life!

werner herzog eats a cookie (get bent), Friday, 27 November 2009 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

i like this dude hope hes ok

liverpolol da don (a hoy hoy), Friday, 27 November 2009 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

you probably had a better childhood tho

xp

iatee, Friday, 27 November 2009 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

roger federer gotta be worried

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Friday, 27 November 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

^guilty lol

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Friday, 27 November 2009 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link

what did you do to roger federer lj!!!!

iatee, Friday, 27 November 2009 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link

DUI (of tryptophan)

♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Friday, 27 November 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

According to Sky news, he got seriously injured reversing his car!

go in go hard brother (Billy Dods), Friday, 27 November 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

on cnn right now, 10+ minutes of live helicopter shot of ... the tree.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Friday, 27 November 2009 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link

(do we know if the tree has any past record of violence? were there tensions between the tree and the woodses? exactly how deep do those roots go?)

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Friday, 27 November 2009 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link

can't see the Woods for the trees...

so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Friday, 27 November 2009 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link

oh yes

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Friday, 27 November 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link

CNBC sports business reporter Darren Rovell tweeted: "Tiger Woods' agent on condition: 'He is fine.'

Alba, Friday, 27 November 2009 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link

this will fuck up his stats re: driving accuracy

Bob Saget's "Night Moves": C or D (WmC), Friday, 27 November 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^ kudos

itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Friday, 27 November 2009 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

My bet is that he stepped on the gas instead of the brake by mistake. Anyways, the world's greatest golfer is a clutz. He should think twice before deciding to putter around the neighborhood again

Super Cub, Friday, 27 November 2009 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

I was trying to think of another pun, but everything I came up with was below par.

so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Friday, 27 November 2009 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Shakey Mo Collier could not be reached for comment.

Information. Motivation. Supplementation. (wanko ergo sum), Friday, 27 November 2009 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link

BBC guy reporting this from outside the White House

Ismael Klata, Friday, 27 November 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

He made a terrible Obama/Woods gaffe??

Alba, Friday, 27 November 2009 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Following this non-story on Sky Sports news was pretty funny. Wetting themselves with excitement but with nothing to say.

'What we do know is that details are very sketchy. What we do know is that there are a lot of questions.'

Seriously, it was like The Day Today. Then they interviewed an American Fox journalist and started asking, 'Could this be connected in any way with rumours about his personal life in some sections of the media?' 'Does the fact the car crash wasn't particularly serious suggest that these serious injuries happened outside the car.' etc

Also used the phrase 'This is very breaking news' (as opposed to the normal pseudo-hash of press releases and talking heads they usually pass off as breaking news I assume), and twice referred to Sky Sports News as Tiger Woods ('Stay with us here at Tiger Woods as we bring you all the latest news on Tiger Woods')

Then about an hour later it was 'More on the huge breaking news on Tiger Woods - he is being released from hospital and is said to be fine. We will have more on this as soon as we hear about it. There are still plenty of questions to be answered - why was he leaving his house?'

I do not joke.

So basically, they went off half cocked on a non-story and then made that error of judgement the news.

Really does give the lie to 24 hour rolling news - this is the sort of stuff they're supposed to be best at, but they just wet their pants and had nothing to say. Anchor even said 'This is real news' at one point.

'virgin' should be 'wizard' (GamalielRatsey), Saturday, 28 November 2009 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/golf/8383782.stm

Aerial footage shows the tree it is believed was struck in the accident

so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Saturday, 28 November 2009 00:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha yeah, it was amazing hopping through the news channels for the 9 o'clock bulletins where they all knew it was a non-story but they all had to run with it as the lead item because no-one had worked up the guts to be first to drop it. Poor old Brian Harvey must've been half way into the studios by then. I'm looking forward to seeing which broadsheets commissioned hasty op-eds that they couldn't pull in time.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 November 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link

"A tree that may or may not have been involved in this apparent accident"

so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Saturday, 28 November 2009 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link

RIP Roger Federer

I HEART CREEPY MENS (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 28 November 2009 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link

his driving has always been wayward

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 28 November 2009 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link

he can take a penalty free drop after striking that hydrant tho

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 28 November 2009 00:36 (fourteen years ago) link

doctors say he has a good lie in hospital

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 28 November 2009 00:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Jokes cracked by me and my mates in pub when this came on as breaking news on Sky Sports News:

Obviously needs a good driver

Wonder what his handicap will be after this

ailsa, Saturday, 28 November 2009 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Time to dust off one of his 35 never-driven LeSabres.

Information. Motivation. Supplementation. (wanko ergo sum), Saturday, 28 November 2009 00:51 (fourteen years ago) link

This reminds me of the time I got shitfaced and drove into a fire hydrant at 2:23am

big darn deal (Z S), Saturday, 28 November 2009 00:53 (fourteen years ago) link

this will fuck up his stats re: driving accuracy

― Bob Saget's "Night Moves": C or D (WmC), Friday, November 27, 2009 3:47 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^i used this tonight w/ some friends who are really zing-y and it got big lols

johnny crunch, Saturday, 28 November 2009 01:09 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah but kudos for this too:

Wonder what his handicap will be after this

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 November 2009 02:18 (fourteen years ago) link

this bit is bullshit right?

Tiger Woods' wife used a golf club to smash a window of his Cadillac Escalade and get her injured husband out of the SUV after he crashed

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Saturday, 28 November 2009 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link

i thought you'd be chipping in with a few puns

nearly 50 in vagina years (onimo), Saturday, 28 November 2009 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Denise Higgins used a snooker cue to fend off youths attacking her husband John Higgins

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Saturday, 28 November 2009 02:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Coleen Rooney saved Wayne from drowning in lake with football.

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Saturday, 28 November 2009 02:42 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm sure there's no chance his wife was chasing him with a golf club following an argument and that he's wasn't reversing too quickly because of his fear of being clubbed.

nearly 50 in vagina years (onimo), Saturday, 28 November 2009 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Wife saves Rolf-Dieter Heuer from burglars by colliding intruders with large hadrons at CERN HQ.

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Saturday, 28 November 2009 02:45 (fourteen years ago) link

plot to die hard 5 right there

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 November 2009 02:51 (fourteen years ago) link

collide hard

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Saturday, 28 November 2009 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Live Hard or Die Hydrant </ken c>

ailsa, Saturday, 28 November 2009 03:02 (fourteen years ago) link

fuck, I didn't even pun the right fucking title. Brandy is evil, kids.

ailsa, Saturday, 28 November 2009 03:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I kind of like the enraged wife story that's developing

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 28 November 2009 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link

rumours of an affair, eh? the plot thickens

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 November 2009 03:11 (fourteen years ago) link

the whole, "omg let me help my husband out of the car by SMASHING THE REAR WINDOW WITH A GOLF CLUB" just screams Desperate Housewives to me

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 28 November 2009 03:12 (fourteen years ago) link

putt his balls into one ho' too many

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Saturday, 28 November 2009 03:13 (fourteen years ago) link

^no need for that to be capitalized
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hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 28 November 2009 03:16 (fourteen years ago) link

lol sandtrap

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 28 November 2009 03:16 (fourteen years ago) link

wouldn't he have put in his 5-iron instead of balls? Or do I not understand how this is done.

Super Cub, Saturday, 28 November 2009 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link

back window of an escalade, what's that? 4 iron, maybe a 3 depending on breeze?

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 November 2009 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link

one thing I know for sure, if I had that kind of money I wouldn't be driving a fucking escalade.

Super Cub, Saturday, 28 November 2009 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah if he had an escalade, I don't think I mind him getting hurt a lil bit

iatee, Saturday, 28 November 2009 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link

xxxpost he must have got wood, surely

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Saturday, 28 November 2009 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link

gotta be honest i think i heard escalade mentioned but i'm not 100% sure

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 November 2009 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link

i think his caddy lacks an escalade

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Saturday, 28 November 2009 03:22 (fourteen years ago) link

stop that

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 November 2009 03:26 (fourteen years ago) link

caddy was genius but the pun is a bit sloppy. 6/10.

Super Cub, Saturday, 28 November 2009 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Tiger Woods: Injuries Caused by Wife, Not SUV

Posted Nov 28th 2009 12:08AM by TMZ Staff

Tiger Woods did not suffer facial lacerations from a car accident. They were inflicted by his wife, Elin Nordegren -- according to a conversation Woods had Friday after the accident.

Tiger has yet to be formally interviewed by the Florida Highway Patrol -- that should happen this afternoon. But we're told Tiger had a conversation Friday -- with a non-law enforcement type -- detailing what went down before his Escalade hit a fire hydrant.

We're told he said his wife had confronted him about reports that he was seeing another woman. The argument got heated and, according to our source, she scratched his face up. We're told it was then Woods beat a hasty retreat for his SUV -- but according to our source, Woods says his wife followed behind with a golf club. As Tiger drove away, she struck the vehicle several times with the club.

Tiger WoodsWe're told Woods became "distracted," thought the vehicle was stopped, and looked to see what had happened. At that point the SUV hit the fire hydrant and then hit a tree.

We're also told Woods had said during the conversation Friday he had been taking prescription pain medication for an injury, which could explain why he seemed somewhat out of it at the scene.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/28/tiger-woods-elin-nordegren-fight-accident-suv-lacerations/#ixzz0Y8Qow27E

♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 28 November 2009 07:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I buy all this a lot easier than I do the original story. I hardly ever even remembered Tiger was married before this story (I wonder if he had the same problem).

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 28 November 2009 07:07 (fourteen years ago) link

O____________________________________O

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we be emi robin' (k3vin k.), Saturday, 28 November 2009 07:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I buy all this a lot easier than I do the original story. I hardly ever even remembered Tiger was married before this story (I wonder if he had the same problem).

― Johnny Fever, Friday, November 27, 2009 11:07 PM (3 minutes ago)

ayo P, you're still hetero right?

♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 28 November 2009 07:11 (fourteen years ago) link

?

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 28 November 2009 07:42 (fourteen years ago) link

His wife's okay-looking, but whatevs.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 28 November 2009 07:43 (fourteen years ago) link

oic

♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 28 November 2009 07:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I just meant Tiger solo is a much greater public persona than "Tiger & wife," and the only time I ever remember he's married is when I see a picture of them together.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 28 November 2009 07:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Kind of like Bono. The only time you remember he's been married for 20+ years is when he brings his wife out for some reason.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 28 November 2009 07:54 (fourteen years ago) link

like for a walk or to get her rabies shot

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 28 November 2009 07:56 (fourteen years ago) link

wait bono is married?

itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Saturday, 28 November 2009 08:04 (fourteen years ago) link

c'mon, she's not hard to look at:

http://www.thedailygreen.com/cm/thedailygreen/images/56/bono-ali.jpg

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 28 November 2009 08:06 (fourteen years ago) link

sorta reminds me of anna nicole smith

iatee, Saturday, 28 November 2009 08:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Where's that thread about how Bono sans glasses is Robin Williams....

kingfish, Saturday, 28 November 2009 09:11 (fourteen years ago) link

LOL have been calling Bono 'Mork from Cork' since the release of October.

The BFD (suzy), Saturday, 28 November 2009 09:15 (fourteen years ago) link

B-but he's from Dublin.

Alba, Saturday, 28 November 2009 10:20 (fourteen years ago) link

(duh I know but too OPEN GOAL not to pass up for the sake of a joke)

The BFD (suzy), Saturday, 28 November 2009 10:35 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean wtf

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 November 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

gayo from mayo

velko, Saturday, 28 November 2009 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link

as well to make a joke referring to his scottishness

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 November 2009 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Isn't she swedish and doesn't she have a twin sister? I often wonder how the twin sister is doing. At least she doesn't have a husband who drives an Escalade. When they mentioned the woman he philandered with (okay okay fucked), I thought the name sounded familiar. Then I realized she's the one who also seduced the dude from Angel and Bones.

Anyway, this is kinda silly really. They fought about his crappy car and whether or not he fucked that chick in it. Big fucking deal.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Saturday, 28 November 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link

This story has a fair way to go then...

Lord Byron Bay of Pigs (SeekAltRoute), Saturday, 28 November 2009 23:39 (fourteen years ago) link

his wife sounds like a right pitch tbh but of course they may just have some ishers they need to iron out before this drives a major wedge between them.

DRUNK SWEDISH CHINTZ (Upt0eleven), Sunday, 29 November 2009 00:04 (fourteen years ago) link

it involves a hole in one who is not his wife iirc

velko, Sunday, 29 November 2009 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link

(btw karine isher is a french golfer who plays on the ladies tours. I found her on wikipedia when I was trying to crowbar in another crap pun.)

DRUNK SWEDISH CHINTZ (Upt0eleven), Sunday, 29 November 2009 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link

ahhhh i was trying to think of a hole in one joke!

harbl, Sunday, 29 November 2009 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link

helping u

velko, Sunday, 29 November 2009 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link

: )

harbl, Sunday, 29 November 2009 00:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Mork from Dublin

cozwn, Sunday, 29 November 2009 00:25 (fourteen years ago) link

haha, the greatest player ever in the worst sport ever just stopped being a huge bore!

Feingold/Kaptur 2012 (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 29 November 2009 02:18 (fourteen years ago) link

(I think I would end golf on earth before wars.)

Feingold/Kaptur 2012 (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 29 November 2009 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link

A wise decision.

ô_o (Nicole), Sunday, 29 November 2009 03:02 (fourteen years ago) link

His wife's okay-looking, but whatevs.

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 28 November 2009 07:43 (Yesterday) Permalink

WUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 29 November 2009 03:25 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/files/ElinNordegren2Ring.jpg

okay looking. I want to live wherever Johnny Fever lives.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 29 November 2009 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link

sweden?

itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Sunday, 29 November 2009 03:28 (fourteen years ago) link

haha maybe?

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 29 November 2009 03:29 (fourteen years ago) link

lets all move 2 sweden

johnny crunch, Sunday, 29 November 2009 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link

btw, the whole "smash the rear window of an SUV in order to pull husband out" thing doesn't sound very likely to me.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 29 November 2009 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/28/tiger-woods-elin-nordegren-fight-accident-suv-lacerations/#ixzz0Y8Qow27E

― ♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Saturday, November 28, 2009 2:00 AM (20 hours ago

we be emi robin' (k3vin k.), Sunday, 29 November 2009 03:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Ali married Bono on 21 August 1982 in a Church of Ireland (Anglican) ceremony at All Saints Church, Raheny

is this considered "posh" in irish terms??

velko, Sunday, 29 November 2009 03:33 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^zing opportunity, britishers

itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Sunday, 29 November 2009 03:36 (fourteen years ago) link

For some reason this strikes me as a cross between the Racial Draft skit and the When Keeping it Real Goes Wrong skits

Meatcat (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link

tiger needs a kobe special http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/29/tiger-woods-elin-nordegren-kobe-bryant-rachel-uchitel-zales-ring/

ice cr?m, Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Ali married Bono on 21 August 1982 in a Church of Ireland (Anglican) ceremony at All Saints Church, Raheny

is this considered "posh" in irish terms??

― velko, 29 November 2009 03:33 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

getting marries? these days, maybe.

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Monday, 30 November 2009 13:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I liked the video for 'The Sweetest Thing' where Bono brings out all sorts of horrible surprises for Ali. She seemed quite nice, based on the half-second shot of her at the start (and assuming she didn't use a body double). Maybe Tiger should lay on something similar for his missus?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 November 2009 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link

"only boyzone can help me now"

yeah that's gonna be top 3 easy of things tiger woods is never gonna have to say.

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Monday, 30 November 2009 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost she likes boyzone apparently. sweetest thing was also written because he forgot her birthday, hence the "i"m sorry sign".

uh i think that's the story. could be she hates boyzone and he wants to piss her off.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Monday, 30 November 2009 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Ghost of Stephen Gately to serenade Mrs Tiger.

ailsa, Monday, 30 November 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

i get so annoyed--his wife is so friggin hot and probably not an idiot--and he goes and has an affair with a chick from TOOL ACADEMY??

max, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Note to famous married dudes: keep your dick in your pants. That's all there is to it.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Note to famous married dudes: keep your dick in your pants. That's all there is to it.

fixed

Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link

i get so annoyed--his wife is so friggin hot and probably not an idiot and is crazy enough to attack him with a golf club--and he goes and has an affair with a chick from TOOL ACADEMY??

Fetchboy, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link

what else is she supposed to attack him with? let's imagine how many golf clubs are in that house

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i5FlC1MpkE

mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Jaimee Grubbs is the girlfriend of Shawn "Loud Mouth Tool" Southern, one of the contestants on VH1's reality series, "Tool Academy." Jaimee Grubbs is a bartender from Studio City, California.

Jaimee Grubbs sees the sweet and caring side of her tool boyfriend Shawn and can't help but love him. His other qualities are much less appealing to her. Jaimee Grubbs is tired of being treated as just arm candy and wishes Shawn would show an interest in her life. Jaimee Grubbs is looking to the "Tool Academy" to break through to Shawn and give him a much needed reality check.

http://www.poptower.com/images/db/5968/420/300/shawn-loud-mouth-southern.jpg

luol deng (am0n), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

(yeah, it's good advice for ALL married men, but famous guys are probably tempted about 1000x times as often.)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

What you mean is they get offered it 1000x times as often

E Poxy Thee Thule (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

what else is she supposed to attack him with?

She could have strangled him with a US Open blazer.

Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

btw the GIS result for "us open green blazer" has some incredibly odd NSFW results on the first page

Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link

lol

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmEkdxt3Ufw

luol deng (am0n), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i5FlC1MpkE

American cable news has to to get like this and explain everything via CGI construction.

Cunga, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Scroll up!

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link

There are so many more civilized ways to deal with marital infidelities but I can truly sympathize with a wronged wife when she finds out her husband has been banging some chick whose bf is named Loud Mouth Tool and decides to have at her spouse with a golf club.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link

whoops, thought I scanned the page thoroughly

Cunga, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Chinese CGI video looks like it was modeled in GTA. Agree that more of this needs to be shown on American news.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 02:11 (fourteen years ago) link

when i watch CGI TIGER i like to pretend it's someone's actual dream that was recorded with a DC MINI

iiiijjjj, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Tiger apologizes for running into that golf club or something similar.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link

"Hey, it's, uh, it's Tiger. I need you to do me a huge favor. Um, can you please, uh, take your name off your phone. My wife went through my phone. And, uh, may be calling you. If you can, please take your name off that and, um, and what do you call it just have it as a number on the voicemail, just have it as your telephone number. That's it, OK. You gotta do this for me. Huge. Quickly. All right. Bye."

♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link

btw the GIS result for "us open green blazer" has some incredibly odd NSFW results on the first page

― Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Tuesday, December 1, 2009 2:33 PM (Yesterday)

haha i'm guessing that it's because the masters is the tournament which awards a green jacket

brutt fartve (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

i would like to lend my Tool Academy expertise here to point out that Jamiee wasn't even the Loud Mouth Tool's girlfriend for most of the season, a couple episodes in his other girlfriend showed up and she got mad and left, so the other girl joined in for the rest of the show.

ess-tee-oh-pee (some dude), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link

i wish i had a daytime cable show so i could invite you on as an expert al

max, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Not content with just one hole apparently....

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 3 December 2009 02:00 (fourteen years ago) link

o_0

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 3 December 2009 02:03 (fourteen years ago) link

The existence of Tool Academy is the most unsettling thing about all of this

a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Thursday, 3 December 2009 02:06 (fourteen years ago) link

It was a train wreck ... but if you like train wrecks, hooboy.

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Thursday, 3 December 2009 02:46 (fourteen years ago) link

"Tiger will do more than any other man in history to change the course of humanity. … He is the Chosen One. He'll have the power to impact nations. Not people. Nations."— Earl Woods, Tiger's father

from here

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 3 December 2009 04:47 (fourteen years ago) link

i wish i had a daytime cable show so i could invite you on as an expert al

― max, Wednesday, December 2, 2009 12:55 PM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha it could be like the KITH sketch that's a faux-documentary about an escape artist, and when one of the talking heads is onscreen the caption that flashes up is "An old guy who used to watch a lot of TV"

the 6 SBillion dollar man (some dude), Thursday, 3 December 2009 04:56 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.e85fuel.com/news/2008/060908_escalade_release/2009-cadillac-escalade.jpg
would smash

admrl, Thursday, 3 December 2009 14:18 (fourteen years ago) link

would pimp
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/kenjuggle3/pimpride.jpg

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 3 December 2009 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link

His parents pioneered the racial integration of a California suburb, and on his first day in kindergarten some older boys threw rocks at him and called him "nigger" and "monkey."

whoa! tough kindergarten

bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Thursday, 3 December 2009 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link

and he pelted the rocks with his golf clubs this was how he acquired his skills?

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 3 December 2009 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't think throwing golf clubs at rocks makes you a good golfer.

Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Thursday, 3 December 2009 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link

doesn't make you a good driver/husband either, it turned out

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 3 December 2009 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Imagine I just posted a screenshot from CBBC's "Hedz" where Tiger Woods defends Billie by throwing golf clubs at things, but unfortunately it hits her head instead.

Mark G, Thursday, 3 December 2009 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Your latest morning development, or not.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 December 2009 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Ochocinco weighs in

http://www.facebook.com/inbox/?drop&ref=mb#/video/video.php?v=792505380802&ref=nf

everyone stop (dan m), Friday, 4 December 2009 06:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Tiger Woods was found shoeless and snoring in the street when neighbors came upon him in the moments after Woods crashed his SUV outside his Florida mansion, according to an interview the Florida Highway Patrol recorded at the scene.

http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=4712889

omar little, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Hahah what

Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link

hahahahahahahahahahaha

I don't know why but even though I knew what thread I was on, I was expecting that to be a bizarre bestiality story

Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Guess who else is talking about Tiger? Ashley Dupre, aka Eliot Spitzer’s call girl "Kristen." Bizarrely, she decided to vent to the New York Post by text message: “Here you have all these girls accepting gifts, money, trips from Tiger in exchange for sex—all the while knowing he is married. And now they all can't wait to tell their stories in exchange for even more money.” She concludes, “And I was the hooker? At least I kept my mouth shut.”

omar little, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link

She was the professional hooker. These others are amateurs.

wmlynch, Friday, 4 December 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

LOL Ashley OTM

ps: ouch

The Daily Beast's Gerald Posner has learned exclusively that the beleaguered golfer is negotiating an immediate $5 million payout to his wife—and revising her prenup to give her as much as $55 million more to stay with him two more years.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-12-03/new-details-on-tigers-prenup/

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 4 December 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

"give me one more boy child and then you can go"

WmC, Friday, 4 December 2009 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

btw my favorite part of this story is that tiger managed to piss off jesper parnevik for all eternity. jesper parnevik!

omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Friday, 4 December 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Elin is herself considered a good asset.

glad they put that on the table

bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Friday, 4 December 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

``I have lost all respect for him, primarily as a man and a father,'' Parnevik said in the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet on Thursday from the PGA Tour qualifying tournament in West Palm Beach, Fla. ``It doesn't even feel like it matters what he has done on the golf course. My respect for him as a person is gone. We have been nice to Tiger before, but now he only has himself to blame.

oh shiiiii

2010 season is going to be full-contact

WmC, Friday, 4 December 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

i know right! jesper is like the goofiest dude in golf which is SAYING SOMETHING

omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Friday, 4 December 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

lol Ambien sex

Do you love me now? (surm), Friday, 4 December 2009 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

sometimes i think very very very few people are equipped with the moral compass to not turn into a total douche when presented with endless wealth and universal fame.

omar little, Friday, 4 December 2009 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

yep

WmC, Friday, 4 December 2009 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link

best part of the jesper parnevik story is that he said elin should use a driver next time

max, Friday, 4 December 2009 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

man this kinda sucks...and now parnevik is piling on? parnevik??

brutt fartve (k3vin k.), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

what a disaster for tiger woods

brutt fartve (k3vin k.), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

its personal for him. and hes danish.

bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link

PGA Tour is going to be the biggest soap opera on the planet next year, everybody's going to pick sides, it's going to spill over into tournaments -- there will be fisticuffs in the locker rooms on multiple occasions. That's my prediction, you heard it here first.

WmC, Friday, 4 December 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

we can only wait, and hope.

bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Tiger once again taking people getting into golf to the next level

mayor jingleberries, Friday, 4 December 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

it creates an interesting dynamic too w/r/t tiger's rival phil mickelson b/c phil's wife was (is?) battling cancer and he's just being a bro, sticking by her, and tiger's off having ambien sex with sexy sociopaths.

omar little, Friday, 4 December 2009 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link

All this hate for a playa playing.

Action Orientation (Eazy), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link

if u had told me last year that by december 2009 john daly would be skinny & monogamous and tiger woods would be the tours biggest coozehound i probably would have slapped you

max, Friday, 4 December 2009 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

ambien sex wtf do you like fall asleep and have zombie sleepwalk boner sex?

Mountain Dewm (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

tiger's statement was a bit of a joke...either admit it or don't.

x-post anyone on john daly's twitter? he's replaced booze and drugs and gambling and food with tweets

I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

ambien sex doesn't really compute, no

WmC, Friday, 4 December 2009 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link

theres a local ex bronco dj who went straight to calling parnevik an incredibly huge idiot for his comments, on the "dont hate the player..." thing. yknow, players know how it is, you never talk about another guys girl problem.

xpost

bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

"tiger...are you sure you want to do this?"

"yeah...sometimes i think the only way i can feel anymore is just...to not feel anything."

*pops pills*

omar little, Friday, 4 December 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

theres no such thing as a "player" in sweden tho

max, Friday, 4 December 2009 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link

parnevik being bros with elin sort of negates that, even if i believed that rule!

omar little, Friday, 4 December 2009 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091202044731AASWipb

velko, Friday, 4 December 2009 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link

tiger woods got me into golf but I will never lift a club again after all this

SKATAAAAAAAAAAA (cozwn), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link

even at an unfaithful spouse?

I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link

kinda surprised at parnevik to be honest, even if he's friends with the wife, seems kinda bad form to be speaking out on someone else's business.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link

btw yeah parnevik introduced them which is why he's sayin shit iirc

omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link

he feels bad cause he fucked up the life of a fellow swede

omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link

ambien sex doesn't really compute, no

― WmC, Friday, 4 December 2009 20:13 (18 minutes ago) Permalink

Ambien makes some people very horny.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 4 December 2009 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link

damn i thought he was a dane. sorry jesper. wasnt she the nanny for his kids or something?

bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

even if he introduced them it's still bad form to speak publicly on it. could message tiger on facebook ideally...

I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

He could have twittered it.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

he could have waited until the next tournament and then when he sees tiger he could have just walked up to him really slowly and said "hey tiger", then just after tiger walked past he could say "hang on a second tiger" and tiger is like "yes?" and then jesper just says "don't you ever fuck with my friends again....EVER." and takes out an 8 iron and then actually goes for a 7 and hits it to 5 feet beside the pin and the crowd are going fucking mental...

I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, 4 December 2009 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I like the twitter idea better. I think I saw your idea in Tin Cup or something.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 4 December 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link

lol tin cup

I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, 4 December 2009 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link

guarantee: in one of tiger's next tournaments, someone will yell, "cheater!" during a tee shot swing.

omar little, Friday, 4 December 2009 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link

That's not exactly Babe Ruth calling his shot, is it now?

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 4 December 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

the answer is, parnevik shoulda did w/e ocho woulda did, had ocho been in his shoes. wwod?

bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Friday, 4 December 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm making this guarantee to a kid with cancer so yes

omar little, Friday, 4 December 2009 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

parnevik should fix the peak on his cap before criticising others

I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, 4 December 2009 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

i've decided to have crazy ambien sex before I criticise T.Woods

NEW YORK DESERVED MANGINI (brownie), Friday, 4 December 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

let he who has not had crazy ambien sex cast the first stone

I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, 4 December 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

amen

Do you love me now? (surm), Friday, 4 December 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

no wait! let NOT he who has not had crazy ambien sex cast the first stone

Do you love me now? (surm), Friday, 4 December 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

....

Do you love me now? (surm), Friday, 4 December 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I think his wife already cast the first stone.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 4 December 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

let she who was not involved in crazy ambien sex swing the first club

I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, 4 December 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

lmao

Do you love me now? (surm), Friday, 4 December 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

The New Tiger Woods Bible

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 4 December 2009 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Results 1 - 10 of about 43,500 for crazy ambien sex. (0.09 seconds)

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 4 December 2009 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

http://imgur.com/cTNjv.png

go in go hard brother (Billy Dods), Friday, 4 December 2009 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Golfball in the ear is a nice touch.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 December 2009 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe he was just sleep-driving.

Jeff, Saturday, 5 December 2009 01:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I thought ambien sex was just a goofy minor plot point in Role Models.

ô_o (Nicole), Saturday, 5 December 2009 01:29 (fourteen years ago) link

btw we're up to TEN now

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 05:22 (fourteen years ago) link

At once?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 05:25 (fourteen years ago) link

ELIN OUT

also, ten? i hope there are 50more

jergins, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 06:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Tiger Woods Admitted to Hospital as OD

Posted Dec 8th 2009 1:00AM by TMZ Staff

Tiger WoodsTiger Woods was admitted to Health Central Hospital the day after Thanksgiving as an overdose.

Sources connected with the hospital tell TMZ the admissions chart lists "OD" and that he was having trouble breathing.

We're told the fifth floor of the hospital was put on lockdown when Tiger arrived. Tiger was admitted under an alias -- William Smith. His wife, Elin Nordegren was by his side.

As we first reported, Elin gave paramedics two pill bottles at the accident scene -- we now know the prescriptions were for Ambien and Vicodin. Tiger was in and out of consciousness, snoring at the scene, and our sources say he clearly appeared to be under the influence of something -- not alcohol.

We're also told doctors used a breathing tube to assist his respiration.

We're also told hospital officials changed Tiger's alias after a few hours to another alias because they feared people would find out he was there.

omar little, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 06:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Unidentified blonde woman taken out of Tiger Woods' house on a stretcher

Alba, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:10 (fourteen years ago) link

wtf is going on

SKATAAAAAAAAAAA (cozwn), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Actress: Holly Sampson, seen here in My First Sex Teacher volume 18, is reported to be another alleged mistress

they tried bless them but this was the only picture they could find

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:22 (fourteen years ago) link

According to the Sun, there are claims that Woods had enjoyed a fling with a well-known female British television presenter.

It quoted a source as saying: 'He would hook up with her when he went to the UK. She's really sexy and very well known. A good friend of mine told me about it years ago.'
The source, said to be a sports marketing executive who had known Woods for years, added: 'Both will be hoping this one doesn't come out. It will take the scandal to a new level.'

The claim was furiously denied yesterday by the woman in question, who insisted there was no truth in what was being claimed.

Come on, who's this then?

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:22 (fourteen years ago) link

We're also told hospital officials changed Tiger's alias after a few hours to another alias because they feared people would find out he was there

"T Woods...no that's too obvious lets call him Tiger W"

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Guess stretcher woman must've heard about Kir$+y G4ll4gh3r.

☜ no, over there (suzy), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Playas gotta play.

Action Orientation (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:24 (fourteen years ago) link

wtf she's not even blonde xp

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:24 (fourteen years ago) link

tiger is really engaged in some serious next-level self-destruction here. like, i can't remember the last famous person to so thoroughly trash their reputation so quickly.

figures he'd be the best even at that.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:25 (fourteen years ago) link

LOL huge BBC joke with Andy Gallaher bringing Radio 4 report of stretcherness.

☜ no, over there (suzy), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:26 (fourteen years ago) link

"and now back to Desert Island Discs with former Oasis frontman..."

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Stretcher woman - his mother-in-law?
http://www.soderhamn.se/images/200.7d9f35391181509ed33800023611/landsh%C3%B6vding_barbro_holmberg.jpg

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Come on, who's this then?

Obv. Hazel Irvine

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link

He's not trashing his reputation quickly as much as he's suddenly being held responsible for years of playing around. Wilt Chamberlain claimed to have slept with, what, 10,000 women?

Action Orientation (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Having now been shown able to play nine holes away, he's clearly going for 18.

☜ no, over there (suzy), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link

wtf she's not even blonde xp

― mdskltr

Suzy didn't say she was, she said the blonde girl had heard about well-known female British television presenter.

blue_eyes chrono_trigger dirty engineer glasses (onimo), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i'm saying if it was KG that would be weird, because like Tiger likes blondes like

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link

ah, right. Maybe after 143 blondes you fancy a wee change?

blue_eyes chrono_trigger dirty engineer glasses (onimo), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link

the speed of this is the crazy thing, though. this guy was pretty much squeaky-clean untouchable what, ten days ago?

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Not all of the women in question are blondes! Also (unpalatable truth) in showbiz terms she counts as a higher-status pull compared to any number of these waitress/model/whatevers.

☜ no, over there (suzy), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i'm saying if it was KG that would be weird, because like Tiger likes blondes like

Some of them looked like trashy brunettes. I think as long as they have a vagina he's not very picky. xp

ô_o (Nicole), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link

heh first one without a vagina will be the REAL story imo

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:49 (fourteen years ago) link

From Wonder Years and Pump Up The Volume to MILF Bone 4.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0760175/

"Up 6% in popularity this week. See why on IMDbPro."

blue_eyes chrono_trigger dirty engineer glasses (onimo), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Some of the comments on news sites are just horrendously sexist.
("If these sluts didn't sleep with him, he wouldn't be having these problems." WTF)

I do feel for the wife. Yes, yes, she'll always be rich (divorced or married) but going through this in the public eye? Urgh. :-(

Nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link

well yeah you gotta feel for the wife. tiger seemed like the safest bet there is in terms of billionaire sports superstars.

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link

this guy was pretty much squeaky-clean untouchable what, ten days ago?

yeah, that's what i mean too. obviously we're talking about years of behavior here, but that it should all come to light so fast, all at once, and spurred such a seemingly innocuous event at the front end. (by front end i mean the bumper of his car...)

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link

this whole thing has reminded me that roger federer said when mika got pregnant he turned to tiger for advice on how to balance family and life on the pro sports circuit.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:09 (fourteen years ago) link

It's funny that this started with us all guffawing at the rolling news channels false-starting on the story. I never got the impression that anyone had an inkling that this was going to follow.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link

mirka, i mean. (r-fed and mika would be a whole other story.)

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Not all of the women in question are blondes! Also (unpalatable truth) in showbiz terms she counts as a higher-status pull compared to any number of these waitress/model/whatevers.

that would go against the trend so far - the first woman to emerge seemed to be a fairly respectable nightclub hostess and each one since has descended a bit further down the ladder (is the porn star the latest?)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm a bit worried this means his wife has tried to top herself.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:11 (fourteen years ago) link

and it's not just the speed which is surprising, it's the speed and bizarrely regular drip-drip rate, rather than everything coming out at once - makes me think that it's been orchestrated quite heavily

lex pretend, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link

the story that his wife had moved out came some hours before this blonde-on-stretcher moment, right? i mean, who even knows any more.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe it takes a couple of days to track down a new mistress and offer them loads of money to sell their story?

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link

the first woman to emerge seemed to be a fairly respectable nightclub hostess and each one since has descended a bit further down the ladder

Like I said, Hazel Irvine

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link

makes me think that it's been orchestrated quite heavily

seems more like there's so much that's accumulated over the years that once the first crack appeared in the dam, it was impossible to hold it back. some of these women and/or their friends have probably figured this was a card they had, something they could go to the tabs with if they ever really needed cash or something, or they just have other reasons for wanting to take a swing at tiger (like, he was probably a dick to a lot of people), and now it's use-it-or-lose-it time.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Was any of it known beforehand? You see rumours of misbehaviour from other cads before it all breaks, but I'd never seen or heard a peep about Tiger.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:20 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah there was a gq profile that talked about tiger as a coozehound iirc

max, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link

more likely again that no tabloid/news source really wanted to be the first to break the story? real double edged sword, given his popularity (or maybe the business interests in keeping him squeaky clean). the crash was just the conduit needed.

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link

its worth remembering that the rachel uchitel thing broke a week before tiger crashed the car

max, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link

not over here, or at least i hadn't heard a whisper of it- but then that's maybe my point- that the rumours were there but no mainstream media were running with it.

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:26 (fourteen years ago) link

there's the allegation that the enquirer had stuff on him two years ago but killed it in exchange for a mens fitness cover story.

http://munfitnessblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/tiger-woods-cover-page-of-mens-fitness.JPG

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Tiger! His Surprising Workout

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link

That's one fitness regime I wouldn't object to

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link

He looks naughty in that cover photo. We should have guessed.

Alba, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link

How He Got BIG. Too much information there.

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link

20 COOL GETAWAYS

blue_eyes chrono_trigger dirty engineer glasses (onimo), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link

He has a weird Aphex Twin-ish grin on that cover.

ô_o (Nicole), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link

IIIIIIII WANT YOUR HOLE

blue_eyes chrono_trigger dirty engineer glasses (onimo), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Come to caddy?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Ned sinks the three-inch put.

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link

not over here, or at least i hadn't heard a whisper of it- but then that's maybe my point- that the rumours were there but no mainstream media were running with it.

― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:26 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it was in the natl enquirer which is a super tabloid-y tabloid that a lot of people ignore (despite being the pub that broke the john edwards affair!)--tiger and his team were handling it beautifully as always, basically denying it, ignoring it, and i suspect threatening anyone more respectable who thought about picking it up. plus they had a willing partner in uchitel who even after the crash denied everything. it seems clear at this point tho that the natl enq article hit close enough to home for nordgren that thanksgiving weekend became a battleground for the two of them.

my guess would be that most of the women were convinced, monetarily or otherwise, that staying silent was in their and tigers best interests--and then once it came out, the girls realized a) there was no reason to be silent anymore and b) they could make some cash out of this if they were fast.

max, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link

and possibly c) each maybe thought she was the only woman in tigers life and learning that she wasnt turned on him?

max, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Seriously, someone needs to photoshop his face from this:

http://munfitnessblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/tiger-woods-cover-page-of-mens-fitness.JPG

on to this picture:

http://www.barriomulas.com/2008/07/20/Aphex%20Twin%20-%20Come%20To%20Daddy-1.jpg

ô_o (Nicole), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:40 (fourteen years ago) link

the story that his wife had moved out came some hours before this blonde-on-stretcher moment, right? i mean, who even knows any more.

Yes, but only down the road. Her mother has come over from Sweden to see and it's her who collapsed (or it's just a random middle-aged blonde woman being followed to the hospital by a younger blonde woman in a black car somewhat similar to the one Tiger was driving that time). It's now being reported that the woman (whoever she might be) is out of hospital, incidentally.

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Selected Ambulance Works vol 2

The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link

surprised you didn't go with Selected Ambien Works there

rad bromance (Roz), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh I missed that shot!

The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Just occurred to me that 'golf clap' has a sudden new connotation.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link

BOOTAY

blue_eyes chrono_trigger dirty engineer glasses (onimo), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link

tiger woods car crash sex photos princess di online gambling wow gold

too shart (am0n), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link

wow gold always makes me laugh cos it sounds like

WOW!!!!! Gold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/12/1208_stretcher_barbo_bn_01.jpg

Tiger Woods' mother-in-law is the woman who was taken to the hospital after the 911 call.

Officials from Health Central Hospital confirm Barbro Holmberg, Elin Nordegren's mom, was rushed to the hospital from Tiger Woods' home early this morning after complaining of stomach pains.

She is still in the hospital and listed in stable condition.

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Can't wait for the Lifetime Original Movie so we can get Christine Baranski some quality work.

james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link

I can only imagine the look on Tiger's face when the mom-in-law started holding her stomach.

Action Orientation (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link

"Honey, there's another woman I forgot to mention..."

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link

IVE BEEN DOING YOUR MOM HONEY

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link

This is so going to be a Law & Order episode.

ô_o (Nicole), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Cutter will find some creative way to charge Tiger with MURDER when the mother in law drops dead of a heart attack.

ô_o (Nicole), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

third act twist--elin nordegrin stand-in (played by january jones) WAS IN ON IT THE WHOLE TIME

max, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link

this is all too weird - has tw got an autobiography coming out soon or something?

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link

elin nordegrin secret porn career

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link

go on...

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link

played by january jones!

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link

ok i'm in. talk to finance on the way out, i'll arrange for a blank cheque to be printed.

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

$_$

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

January Jones as a pr0n star

......

$$$$$$$

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Law & Order would love the prostitution aspect of this story as well:

http://deadspin.com/5416948/chaos-in-tigerland-a-deadspin-investigation-into-the-expensive-sexual-habits-of-pro-athletes

ô_o (Nicole), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link

special vixens unit

too shart (am0n), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I was wrong. It turns out Tiger Woods is facsinating.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

John Daly's lost his crown

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

ty am0n!

special vixens unit (suzy), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm still loving this rick reilly link that's been on espn's front page for the past few days:

RICK REILLY

Tiger Will Be Better Man

His flaws exposed for all to see, Tiger Woods can emerge a better person.

now that tiger is going through this adversity, he'll know how to cover his tracks better.

omar little, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

rick reilly is just about the biggest fucking idiot in the world.

eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

rick reilly is so terrible

mookieproof, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

mistresses of rich dudes get hella pissed and vindictive when they find out there are other "other women" and they go into total destruct mode w/their former fling

omar little, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

http://deadspin.com/5416948/chaos-in-tigerland-a-deadspin-investigation-into-the-expensive-sexual-habits-of-pro-athletes

― ô_o (Nicole), Tuesday, December 8, 2009 12:14 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

recommended^

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

"I thought I was the only girl you were cheating with! WAAAAAAAH!" apologizing in advance to my fellow feminists for calling these women out as dumb spunkbuckets.

special vixens unit (suzy), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link

wait, tiger woods's mom in law is the dead horse Barbaro?

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link

man tmzs coverage of this is quite uh detailed - theyre now reporting

Tiger Woods' wife, Elin Nordegren, just returned to the family home in Windermere, Florida, along with her twin sister, Josefin.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/08/tiger-woods-wife-elin-nordegren-barbro-holmberg-food-poisoning/

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Tiger leaps off boat.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44439000/jpg/_44439095_tiger_leap.jpg

too shart (am0n), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

From TMZ comments:

14. welll i didnt have sex with tiger because im already dead..thank you thank you thank you very much

Posted at 2:33PM on Dec 8th 2009 by elvis

special vixens unit (suzy), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Breaking News: Gatorade Discontinues Tiger Woods Drink

too shart (am0n), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link

The avalanche continues

Advertisements featuring Tiger Woods have disappeared from prime-time broadcast television and many cable channels following reports of his extramarital affairs, according to data from Nielsen Co.

The last prime-time ad featuring the 33-year-old golfer was a 30-second Gillette Co. spot on Nov. 29, according to New York- based Nielsen. Woods also was absent from ads on a number of weekend sports programs, including NFL games, Nielsen said.

“Last weekend there wasn’t any advertisement during those games,” said Aaron Lewis, a spokesman at Nielsen.

The No. 1 ranked golfer’s standing with the public has plunged in the wake of reports of infidelity that followed a Nov. 27 car accident outside his home near Orlando, Florida. Woods’s ranking among celebrity endorsers tumbled to 24th from 6th, according to the Davie Brown Index, which is used to gauge the ability of personalities to influence shoppers.

Woods has endorsement agreements with Accenture Plc, Nike Inc., PepsiCo Inc.’s Gatorade, Tag Heuer International SA watches, Electronic Arts Inc. and Procter & Gamble Co.’s Gillette. Neither Mark Steinberg, Woods’s agent, nor Glenn Greenspan, a spokesman, responded to phone messages or e-mails seeking comment.

The golfer’s $110 million in annual income from endorsements and tournaments, as estimated by Forbes magazine, hinges on his standing with consumers. Woods ranked as the world’s fourth-highest paid celebrity in the 12 months through June 30, the magazine said. In October, he became the first athlete to top $1 billion in career earnings.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 03:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Porn star Joslyn James brings the number of women linked to Tiger Woods to 11 (warning Fox News link)

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 03:53 (fourteen years ago) link

now thats 2 fake titied porn bitches smh

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 03:56 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/12/1208_cori_rist.jpg

velko, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 04:00 (fourteen years ago) link

mistresses of rich dudes get hella pissed and vindictive when they find out there are other "other women" and they go into total destruct mode w/their former fling

smashing aspirant (milo z), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 04:25 (fourteen years ago) link

1.) Rachel Uchitel. The club hostess

2.) Jamie Grubbs. The 24-year-old reality show contestant

3.) Kalika Moquin. The 27-year-old club manager from Las Vegas
4.) Cori Rist. The 31-year-old swimsuit model

5.) Jamie Jungers. The 26-year-old former employee of Trashy Girls Lingerie.

6.) Mindy Lawton. The 33-year-old pancake house waitress

7.) Holly Sampson. The 36-year-old former porn star

8.) Unidentified Alleged Mistress No. 8. A former cocktail waitress

9.) Unidentified Alleged Mistress No. 9 is reported to be a “sexy” British TV presenter

10.) Unidentified Alleged Mistress No. 10. is a “sex-addicted cougar.”

11.) Joslyn James. The star of many, many porn videos

Geeze, and here we were all lead to believe that being a billionaire athlete lead to bedding fancy-schmanzy gals -- but no.

Cunga, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 04:32 (fourteen years ago) link

lead/led - same thing

Cunga, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 04:33 (fourteen years ago) link

So far Moquin and Jungers are the only ones even remotely as attractive as his wife.

smashing aspirant (milo z), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 04:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry, none of them are as attractive as his wife imo

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 04:48 (fourteen years ago) link

His wife's okay-looking, but whatevs.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, November 27, 2009 11:43 PM (1 week ago)

~~dark energy~~ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:10 (fourteen years ago) link

this thread's title really isn't accurate anymore, can we get a mod to change it to "Tiger Woods trainwreck"?

radric in manehattan (some dude), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry, none of them are as attractive as his wife imo

― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, December 8, 2009 11:48 PM (Yesterday)

been doin ur research eh

k3vin k., Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:47 (fourteen years ago) link

im still gonna root for tiger but this is weird as hell

k3vin k., Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:47 (fourteen years ago) link

srs question time: how long until the inevitable sex tape?

k3vin k., Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:48 (fourteen years ago) link

there are pix of his junk out there if you care to seek that out.

~~dark energy~~ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:49 (fourteen years ago) link

what i'm taking away from all this is that apparently a hugely famous rich married guy can really run through a lot of hos for a long time before any of it's made public, but once one is common knowledge they all stand to be counted

radric in manehattan (some dude), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:55 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^solid analysis

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:57 (fourteen years ago) link

basically how i break it down to an extent

k3vin k., Wednesday, 9 December 2009 06:01 (fourteen years ago) link

his career trajectory no longer seems at all mysterious

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link

He's always seemed like a dick only interested in money, but seriously good luck from here on out bro. On the other hand I'm sure he'll come out of this just fine.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 07:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I can't see a lots going to change. He's got a ton of money, he can still play golf, and now he'll be rid of that pesky ball and chain of a wife and kids and he can get back to fucking without having to worry about it getting back to them. It's a WIN WIN situation.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 10:01 (fourteen years ago) link

silicon, ambien and sweet par fives forever (ever...ever...ever...ever...)

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 10:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Mindy Lawton. The 33-year-old pancake house waitress

Inspired by Sideways.

Action Orientation (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 12:39 (fourteen years ago) link

More good news, this book...
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01539/book_1539951c.jpg
...seen in his car has gone up in value. Anyone want my copy (VG+ with slight reading crease) for £40?

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:15 (fourteen years ago) link

What Ned said. Although I think the PR guys are gonna BEG them to stay married.

He's always seemed like a dick only interested in money, but seriously good luck from here on out bro.

And this.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't think he's ever said word one about money -- his motivation has been major championships and breaking Nicklaus' and other's records.

WmC, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah but when you're valued at $1 billion or whatever did you ever NEED to say a word about money?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link

List above omits this piece of info from Fox:

7.) Holly Sampson. The 36-year-old former porn star, who has starred in such films as "OMG, Stop Tickling Me..."

Such A Hilbily (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link

He's always seemed like a dick only interested in money, but seriously good luck from here on out bro.

i have a feeling his luck with money is still going to be about 89482x better than mine, so sucks to be him seriously this is a crisis

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link

"He's always seemed like a dick only interested in money...."

No, I echo the guy above. He wants to beat Nicklaus' record. That's all he cares about. The cash and the chicks are just gravy. He doesnt even give a shit about the Ryder Cup.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I can imagine bigger crises than having a lot of girlfriends. I mean, is there some booty ban at golf tournaments? If he gets divorced, it'll be just like any/every other celebrity divorce: he'll look stupid, lose a lot of money, then take a refreshing swim in the pool he keeps filled with gold krugerrands (Billy Joel has one too, I hear). Then he'll play a lot more golf and continue to win a lot.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link

and he can legitimately be a playah in the open (as well as being a player in the Open) rather than having to maintain any of this troublesome clean cut image

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

as has already been stated, he's gonna bring golf to another level again because of this. single playa tiger beefin the swedes in '10

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe, but it's hard to be the face of Accenture when you're a punchline

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

single playa tiger beefin the swedes in '10

EA Sports have gone downhill...

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd assumed that being Mr Corporate Billion-Dollar-Man and World's Greatest Sportsman was a full-full-time pursuit - it's quite annoying to find out he had all this spare time too.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, but some people play golf in their spare time.

Mark G, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Did you hear about the survey of 1,000 blondes who were asked if they would sleep with Tiger Woods? 85% said 'never again'.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link

The stupidest thing you will ever read. (Warning: Bill Plaschke content.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry Ned, that doesn't even come close, and I usually have zero tolerance for Plaschke.

WmC, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Not even this?

It has continued throughout the year into December, a month that has devolved into a national search for the one woman who has not claimed to have had sex with Tiger Woods.

Surely she's out there somewhere, feeling embarrassed and alone.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link

i wonder, considering how concerned tiger wood has always seemed to be about his image (kinda reminds me of a-rod in that regard) if the total breakdown of that image will affect his game. not to mention golf being a sport that requires total silence, concentration, and maybe more than others can totally be derailed by even the most infinitesimal case of the yips.

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

kind of lol but mostly sad

eh, sportswriters and their hyperbole, whaddaya gonna do

xpost

WmC, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

omar, that's the big question for me too. can't wait for the first "giggity giggity" hollers from behind the ropes

WmC, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link

lot of dudes in the crowd gonna start wearing blonde wings to throw him off game

it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link

lol if you think the fratboys/rich doctors who also cheat on their wives that comprise golf tournament crowds are gonna turn on him you're nuts

xp

k3vin k., Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Between those epic dunks on Wade and Woods

too shart (am0n), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

lol if you think the fratboys/rich doctors who also cheat on their wives that comprise golf tournament crowds are gonna turn on him you're nuts

lol if you think those fratboy types who scream YOU DA MAN!!! and GET IN THE HOLE!!!!! are going to restrain themselves after a few beers from the courtesy tents you're nuts

WmC, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link

seriously

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link

"success is the best deodorant"

~~dark energy~~ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Someone I know was pretty otm when he said that this is like Marv Albert, he'll be sent away for a while and then when everybody forgets what he did, or is just sick of talking/joking about it, he'll be inserted back in the spotlight like it never happened. How long was Marv gone, anyway?

Cunga, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link

From Marv's wikipedia page:

After DNA tests proved that the bite marks were his, he pleaded guilty to misdemeanor assault and battery charges, while the sodomy charge was dropped.[7][8] Albert was given a 12-month suspended sentence and ordered to only announce play-by-play for the Los Angeles Clippers.

Oh, wikipedia!

Cunga, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Pretty sure that many, many dudes will like him WAY MORE because of these "transgressions".

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link

this isn't like marv albert because marv albert is a popular announcer about whom no one really cares too deeply about, they just think he calls a good b-ball game. tiger woods is the world's most popular athlete, probably, and has built this rep on being this clean-living family-friendly incredibly successful dude who has a solid home life (with someone who happens to be a swedish model.) there were some gray areas w/marv, too, at least in terms of how it all went down in the end. this is like 11 (and counting) women coming out of the woodwork, and it can't even be passed off like "oh i made a horrible mistake this one time" like kobe's incident, because tiger was apparently being uber-cautious and very sly.

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm just waiting to see which one of the girls from Jersey Shore he has had an affair with.

ô_o (Nicole), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link

pretty clear here tiger is not doing well - poppin pills n smashin nast ass porn ladies has got to speak to some sort of icky malaise

ive always been of two mind abt him - hes got some off putting triumphalist tendencies (fist pumps, corporate opaqueness) - and some that hint at depth behind the tiger glaze (thoughtful demeanor, intelligence)

so i dunno i hope he ends up in a better place than where all of this started

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i think that would mean dude would have to rejoin society and stop traveling from isolated bubble to isolated bubble but i really don't see that happening

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Another thing is that his dad died recently, and his on-course demeanor has been subject of a lot of "that's not sportsmanlike!" articles in the last year or so.

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

eh obvs its a completely insane life but people have made stranger situations work

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm not sure if that extreme level of fame will leave you a normal decent person in the end. it seems like over time someone exposed to that is going to kinda lose their mind and those who don't seem to be like that, able to kinda maintain their composure and decency in the face of being able to do anything they want and probably get away with it, are exceptions. i'm trying to think of someone who has been at that level and seems relatively normal (clooney?)

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link

but are any of us relatively normal...

Adrian Langston became a fan of boners and Cervical Cancer. (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link

xxxpost -- yeah, people are getting less tolerant of his foul mouth. New PGA Tour drinking game: drain your glass everytime Dan Hicks, Jim Nantz et al say "we'd like to apologize to our viewers for what you heard just before we went to commercial..."

WmC, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean if all i did was shuttle between my gated community, my private jet, my hotel suite, my closed off area of a restaurant, and whatever golf course i was playing i'd prob do some fucked up stuff out of sheer boredom

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^^^^

otm x10000

WmC, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah obvs hes got to have something thats not that - some guys stay grounded by family/religion - seems like becoming super involved in helping people could pop the bubble

Adrian Langston became a fan of boners and Cervical Cancer. (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link

gear otm it's just a matter of time 'til the police dogs find the bodies

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

also: big difference between "this makes him more AWESOME LOL" and "this makes him a more effective global corporate representative"

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

100% unretouched this stuff just writes itself.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

i think tiger's best bet is to embrace his newfound villainy a la hulk hogan.

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

but his entire success has been made and marketed upon his supposed likability and decency, so i think he's kinda toast and the pga is gonna turn to mickelson or someone similar to be their new posterboy from this point forward.

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

ive always been of two mind abt him - hes got some off putting triumphalist tendencies (fist pumps, corporate opaqueness) - and some that hint at depth behind the tiger glaze (thoughtful demeanor, intelligence)

it's the thoughtfulness and intelligence that take the biggest hit here, at least imo. he was always a corporate whore, but seemed like a sort of smart, possibly interesting corporate whore. when you read his text messages or hear the voice mails or whatever, he seems like Sleazy McDimbulb.

i'm trying to think of someone who has been at that level and seems relatively normal (clooney?)

i don't know about "normal," but clooney's at least candid about the reasons he likes his privacy and would never, say, run for political office. in that new yorker profile the other year he said something like, there's been too many girls and too many drugs.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

letterman zinging him last night was a little O RLY

mookieproof, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link

but, y'know... get choppin'

http://rawstylus.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/tiger.jpg

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link

i think tiger's best bet is to embrace his newfound villainy a la hulk hogan.

― omar little, Wednesday, December 9, 2009 1:35 PM

I'd love to see him morph into an evil emo version of himself a la Tobey Maguire in Spiderman 3.

Moodles, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link

high performers are as adept at recovering from setbacks as they are at... oh... oh... oops.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't know about "normal," but clooney's at least candid about the reasons he likes his privacy and would never, say, run for political office. in that new yorker profile the other year he said something like, there's been too many girls and too many drugs.

― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra)

clooney wouldn't run for office because he's a closet
-case according to several rumours i've heard.

Pedro Paramore (jim), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

At a time when it's tougher than ever to be a Tiger, it's even more crucial to know what it takes. Talk to us to see how we can help.

>
accenture

LMAO

Adrian Langston became a fan of boners and Cervical Cancer. (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

who's gong to be first to chop the top of a blonde head into that first one. sadly, i'm at work now.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

and yeah every single word of that copy reads like double-entendre now

so: tiger's got problems

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

when i see a guy like tiger, he doesn't really seem to be loose or friendly or at ease, he seems to always be performing or playing the character he's built up over the years, which is the character of this driven athlete, loyal family man, moral guy, 100% tabula rasa for everyone. he doesn't act like a real person a lot of the time, a lot of his mannerisms seem a little fake. you can see the strings being pulled.

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

"but his entire success has been made and marketed upon his supposed likability and decency"

I disagree. Its been about kicking the shit out of everybody else on the PGA Tour with a total assassin's mentality. None of his marketing has been based on any type of cuddly family type shit.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I think that's typical of superfamous people though and especially true of pro athletes, when you consider the amount of endorsement money attached to them - they get into the habit of repeating certain mantras and statements, and acting in ways that reinforce their own image.

get this feeling with roger federer too (to name one person who spouts a whole lotta feel-good bullshit to please his audience and sponsors, but also seems like a relatively decent and normal guy at the same time.). xp

rad bromance (Roz), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

if he wasn't likable (to some) or considered decent, it wouldn't work. i mean obviously his dominance plays into it too.

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link

my dead great-grandmother, a passionate golf fan, HATED black people, and she LOVED tiger woods for being so "polite" and "respectful" or whatever

max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link

she would not be pleased with recent revelations of his infidelities--on the other hand she had four husbands so

max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link

she sounds like a blast

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link

this is one of those stories where i feel mad that i am even forming an opinion. tiger woods infidelity, please break up.

goole, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link

she was a pioneering female pilot, too

xp

max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

tell me she smoked and/or drank scotch and the picture will be complete

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

http://codytaylor.org/images/funny/grandma-wasted.jpg

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link

she was a drinker but not as much when i knew her. she sure did love tiger woods though.

max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link

xp yikes! friend of yrs, ned?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

wkiw

mookieproof, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

It's amazing what you can find when you GIS "boozing grandma"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Omar: OTM about this being a bit bigger than Marv, now that I think about it for more than five seconds.

The Hulk Hogan remark is funny because earlier today I was thinking about what a damn shame it is that it's only in pro wrestling that you can -- or need to -- fake a serious injury, get caught in public scandal, or have a "loser must retire match" before you take time off work.

Every job should require you to put somebody else over and have yourself be shamefully humiliated or injured before you take four months off for vacation/personality makeover

xpost

Cunga, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

For some reason, I find Rick Reilly's latest column more obnoxious than the Plaschke one Ned linked to.

WmC, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

he was on sportscenter with that same shit yesterday. i hate him.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link

noxious shit

bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

It's one thing to sit back, assess the damage and say "daaaaaamn, fella" and it's another thing entirely to be all metaphorically up in Tiger's face, close enough for him to know what you ate for lunch, poking him in the chest and saying "let me just tell you what you need to do to fix this."

WmC, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Third, he needs to clean house. If he wants to keep his wife, he has to get a new agent, a new caddie and some new friends. It's hard to believe all this went on without their help or knowledge. How can she see them as anything but enablers?

^^^ugh

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Third, he needs to clean house. If he wants to keep his wife, he has to get a new agent, a new caddie and some new friends. It's hard to believe all this went on without their help or knowledge. How can she see them as anything but enablers?

^^^ugh

But okay but isn't that actually...correct?

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link

i suppose, if you actually perceive her as "my wife who is more important to me than anything" vs. "an employee in good standing of woodsco intl., llp who's having trouble seeing the bigger picture here"

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

i dunno, i feel like this kind of bro-to-bro cold hard reality type advice that is like, "do this and you can keep her and emerge a better person" after this dude showed he clearly doesn't want to is weird.

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost (where "you" = Eldrick Tont "Tiger" Woods)

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link

This would not be the first time in human history that two people got a divorce.

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link

xxp it's totally naive is what it is

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

like the advice i would give would be, "dude, look, you don't want her as a wife and you don't care about her and if you did, you wouldn't be doing this kind of shit because it's not just a single drunken fling, it's a pattern and for her sake as well as yours just end it."

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

like the advice i would give would be, "dude, look, you don't want her as a wife and you don't care about her and if you did, you wouldn't be doing this kind of shit because it's not just a single drunken fling, it's a pattern and for her sake as well as yours just end it."

Yes.

Also, "avoid Jesper Parnevik"

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Ach, I'm not following anything about the story except what appears on ILX -- so basically the official T Woods position on this is that if she wants to stay around, she has to understand how things iz? If that's the case, then yeah, I guess, don't bother.

xxp ahh okay, that's sensible.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link

not the Official Position, but the one his behavior seems to pretty clearly indicate since he hasn't exactly been hiking to Argentina with his soul mate

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

But okay but isn't that actually...correct?

― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, December 9, 2009 4:53 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

how the hell does the guy's caddie deserve to get fired over this?

some dude, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

The Reilly and Plaschke articles are terrible, even judging them by the standard that these two horrendous sportswriters should be judged. Reilly really thinks that after this guy slept with 13 women that he and his wife should still try to stay together? Its time to move on, take the hit to your checkbook and let her get on with her life.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

But okay but isn't that actually...correct?

― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, December 9, 2009 4:53 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

how the hell does the guy's caddie deserve to get fired over this?

― some dude, Wednesday, December 9, 2009 5:09 PM (47 seconds ago)

because tiger woods cheated on his wife, and he didn't tell anyone. now he must lose his job, you see

k3vin k., Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link

lol i was reading some esquire thing where his caddie was referred to as the "worst new zealander in history"

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, the caddie's not there to babysit him, he's there to read the downhill left to right putt on the 17th at Augusta on Sunday with his boss up by one. Reilly's a dumbass. Last I checked, Tiger's 33 years old. xx post

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

hasn't exactly been hiking to Argentina with his soul mate

haha

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh god I don't know who exactly was involved in the hush-up. But I mean IF I were the wife I'd be seeing things in that light. Except yeah I guess that's giving the idea of saving the marriage way too much weight -- the later posts are OTM.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Frankly, firing the caddy's the most offensive thing about this whole affair that I've heard so far.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link

btw tiger's inner circle is v. small--his agent, his nike rep, his caddie the worst new zealander, a couple old friends from college. so yeah, IF he wanted to repair his relationship these ppl could all reasonably be seen as enablers.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link

rip steve williams :(

k3vin k., Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link

not so m. white that guy does actually suck

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Does he? I wouldn't know.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link

xp yes how bout he estranges all of his close friends so he can stay with his wife that he cheated on repeatedly

k3vin k., Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Likelihood of rich playboy no longer hanging out with his rich playboy friends in order to appease his trophy wife ...

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link

wait is it thirteen now???

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link

"enablers" makes it sound like he's a drug addict and everyone he works with was giving him a fix to keep him going. he was just a serial cheater, should they have been flinging Promise Keepers pamphlets at him every time his eye wandered?

some dude, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link

He has a long way to go before he catches up with Wilt.

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

from what i hear a couple of his pals were helping to set up each rendezvous ahead of time or provide a cover story for his wife.

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

setting up his shots, so to speak

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

That sportswriter is a doosh, but you could see this as Tiger's chance to make possibly the first truthful decision about his marriage yet -- and IF he wanted to get his marriage back, yeah, heads would have to roll just in the interests of trustworthiness and also as a show of his willingness to stop doing bad shit.

That article about the "event organizers" def emphasized the "stables of ponies to fuck" and drugs too -- I feel like that's more than a little light cheating a la a salesman in a hotel bar, out of town?

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

tbh anybro who lets his friend cheat on his wife with 13 chicks without saying anything is not really a bro worth having

max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link

The guy's a great caddie, Tiger's won all majors but one with Williams holding his bag.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link

laurel and max otm.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link

btw it is 13 we know about--how many do we not know about

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Holding and taking great care of his bag.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

5

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

tip of the iceberg imo

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

tbh anybro who lets his friend cheat on his wife with 13 chicks without saying anything is not really a bro worth having

― max, Wednesday, December 9, 2009 5:19 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Hes no bro, he's an employee hired to maximize his employer's abilities on the golf course. Period.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link

sometimes employers and employees can be friends bill

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link

this caddie is no bro (rips off visor)

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link

bill i don't suppose u read the post where i explained that tiger has an exceedingly small inner circle

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Hes no bro, he's an employee hired to maximize his employer's abilities on the golf course. Period.

― Bill Magill, Wednesday, December 9, 2009 5:22 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i wasnt even talking about his caddie, the worst human being ever to be from new zealand, but instead about his bros

max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

The caddy is a red herring anyway. Tiger is close friends with Charles Barkley and Michael Jordan! Two complete sleazeballs!

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I agree with you then.
xpost

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link

tbh anybro who lets his friend cheat on his wife with 13 chicks without saying anything is not really a bro worth having

Money and fame change everything. That is just sanctimony dressed up.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't think those stmts contradict?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

After looking at the list of Tiger's mistresses, I think the first thing I'd do if I happened to be Tiger's wife is get tested for VD.

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Money and fame change everything. That is just sanctimony dressed up.

what do u mean

max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

the thing is...plenty of famous beloved guys are sleazy womanizers, if they're open about it. his mistake was trying to be the wholesome all-American role model if his heart wasn't in it and he'd rather just be a rich playboy (which, I guess he wouldn't be AS big a deal if that had been his image all along, but he'd still be a hugely successful athlete). the only part that makes him a scumbag to me instead of just a dumbass is that he brought a couple children in the world with this woman he apparently didn't give much of a shit about.

some dude, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah pretty much

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

yes true and i'm guessing (maybe) from her supposed reaction they might have not had an "understanding"

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't remember him saying "I am a wholesome family man" to anyone.

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah that's the other thing is lots of athletes wives are well aware of their husbands activities....

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link

ship otm

xxp if you watch golf you know that's what his image is

k3vin k., Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link

After looking at the list of Tiger's mistresses, I think the first thing I'd do if I happened to be Tiger's wife is get tested for VD.

Thats assuming he was even still having sex with his wife, which considering...

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link

poly do u disagree that an image of him as an int'l slut of epic proportions is not consistent with his media presentation?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link

BTW, do we know for sure all of these women putting their hands up and saying "oh hai, me too" are actually telling the truth and not just trying to score some fame points?

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Williams hasn't actually been fired, right? That's just Reilly's stoopid advice?

I saw this at ESPN -- "Edwards' advice" -- and was all OMGWTF, how did they get John or Elizabeth to comment on this?! But it turns out it was Herm Edwards. Good bait & switch!

WmC, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link

no he hasnt

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link

his mistake was trying to be the wholesome all-American role model if his heart wasn't in it and he'd rather just be a rich playboy

OTM. Given the way he portrayed himself, it's much harder now for him to pivot toward a less pious celebrity aura.

He could do it, though. It would be like he's a good-guy pro-wrestler that all-of-a-sudden becomes an evil bad-guy.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link

WHERE IS TONY DUNGY

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link

what was herm edwards' advice?

k3vin k., Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd certainly hit up Herm for some advice on this if I were Woods. As long as the question is not about 4th quarter clock management, I think Herm's your man.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe thought like a politician w/r/t his career, like "well in order to win over the public i have to act like a perfect family man, get a wife, have kids, etc"

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link

what was herm edwards' advice?

― k3vin k., Wednesday, December 9, 2009 4:37 PM (3 minutes ago)

No idea, as soon as I saw the word "Herm" I bailed.

WmC, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe thought like a politician w/r/t his career, like "well in order to win over the public i have to act like a perfect family man, get a wife, have kids, etc"

I wouldn't be surprised. Look at max's grandma as described upthread.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link

great-grandma--my regular grandma is not racist

max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link

by which i mean, less racist

max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link

by which i mean, does not actively hate people of color

max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link

It would be like he's a good-guy pro-wrestler that all-of-a-sudden becomes an evil bad-guy.

haha third or fourth time somebody has come up with this analogy.

xpost - like Herm Edwards knows anything about being loyal

http://www.beloblog.com/ProJo_Blogs/PatsBlog/archives/pennington0909.jpg

RIP CHAD PENNINGTON'S ARM #10

Cunga, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry, max, I just meant that his image won him a lot of acclaim from people not usually predisposed to miscegenated people of color.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

actually i guess he's only been married for like 5 years huh. so he was almost 30 and had been famous for almost a decade by then, surely he knew enough about himself at that point to maybe have an inkling that monogamy wasn't his bag? i never heard about him dating anyone or being regarded as an eligible bachelor before that, surely he was banging waitresses and shit before he got married too?

some dude, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link

RIP CHAD PENNINGTON'S ARM #10

Yes I agree, but how 'bout a little cheer for Chad Henne! He's pretty good! And -- so far -- no philandering!

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link

oh man...the tender shared shower scene in that

xpost

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link

i assume many dudes who cheat, even at this volume, also desire to have a wife and family.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link

i think that comes from dudes who really truly give in to the belief that this is just how men are, and sure hey they love their wives but sometimes you just gotta yknow get a little something on the side, it doesn't mean they don't love their wives any less. (though it kinda does)

omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:58 (fourteen years ago) link

This's what he gets for marrying the help

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Isnt this just the "cats away/mouse will play" touring trap anyway, like rock stars end up in? I mean he was on the road all the time, and I'm guessing wifey wasnt always with him.

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link

sure, but typically rock stars and michael irvin are not also paid big bucks to be the global face of management consulting firms and buick.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link

for exactly this reason

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Good point.

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link

LOLLLLL tomorrow's Sun headline is all topical, Britishes: DARLING JUST SCREWED MORE PEOPLE THAN TIGER WOODS

special vixens unit (suzy), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link

It's not for that reason at all. It's because he's a golfer. If you play golf, you endorse the sort of products that appeal to the golf market, like SAPs and insurance companies and other rich people things. If you are a football player you endorse trucks and soda and etc.

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Unless you're John Daly, and then you endorse Hooters.

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link

endorse, pass out outside of in an alcoholic coma, whats the difference

max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link

iirc the point of tiger woods is that his appeal goes beyond the golf market

BECAUSE HE IS THE OBAMA OF GOLF, DO YOU SEE?

hence: a guy who plays a game where you amble about in khakis while some other dude carries your shit got a jordan-level gatorade endorsement. jordan may be the same kind of douchebag, but he does actually occasionally have reason to replace an electrolyte.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:29 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost and it wasn't even a buick! isn't that the real scandal here?

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:29 (fourteen years ago) link

He was "the Obama of golf" long before he ever married a hot blonde model, though. The perception of him was that he was a weird nerd, not some chaste monk.

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, hello, he married a hot blonde model.

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:32 (fourteen years ago) link

right: that was his big mistake

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:42 (fourteen years ago) link

He was "the Obama of golf" long before he ever married a hot blonde model, though. The perception of him was that he was a weird nerd, not some chaste monk.

― real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, December 9, 2009 6:31 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Also, hello, he married a hot blonde model.

― real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, December 9, 2009 6:32 PM (12 minutes ago)

exactly, it's not like anyone put being sort of a playboy past him

k3vin k., Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link

yes ppl sure have weird expectations about marriage

bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Let me clarify one point: Tiger Woods IS a sleazy piece of shit. But that's basically what I think about everyone who went to Stanford, so hardly news.

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:54 (fourteen years ago) link

did he do the tree too?

bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link

worst new zealander in having his guy's back shocker

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10614294

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:57 (fourteen years ago) link

did he do the tree too?

I think it's more likely that he learned this behavior FROM the tree. For example:

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/stanford-tree.png

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:58 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah if i were him i'd definitely do the right thing and publicly admonish my best friend and the guy who's solely responsible for my family eating
xp

k3vin k., Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link

What a horrible New Zealander, tbh.

Fetchboy, Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Let me clarify one point: Tiger Woods IS a sleazy piece of shit. But that's basically what I think about everyone who went to Stanford, so hardly news.

― real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:54 (Yesterday)

yer just jealous

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Why would I be jealous? Couldn't even beat us WITHOUT Jahvid!

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:16 (fourteen years ago) link

well i've attended both and i was definitely jealous when i was at cal

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link

The idea of spending more than 5 minutes in Palo Alto is horrifying.

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:25 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^ truth

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:34 (fourteen years ago) link

A nerd? Dude is buff. I am guessing the "nerd" part comes from the Asian stereotypes. Look, more people in the future will look this way, just get over it. Okay he has a white wife but she is cute. This whole story is a yawn. He can play golf. Get over it, people.

US EEL (u s steel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:40 (fourteen years ago) link

he's a buff nerd

omar little, Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:43 (fourteen years ago) link

yea when i think tiger woods the first thing i think is "asian = nerd"

k3vin k., Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link

is it true that tiger got sonned by a wite wife over a AOL beef?

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link

A nerd? Dude is buff. I am guessing the "nerd" part comes from the Asian stereotypes.

He wasn't so buff early in his career. The "nerd" part comes from the fact that he sounds like Steve Urkel.

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link

And golfers are just generally kind of nerdy.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:48 (fourteen years ago) link

getting sonned after a aol beef is kind of nerdy

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link

he's a golfer, even a hard-living chain smoker like john daly can barely peek out from under the nerd umbrella without getting a beatdown

omar little, Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Tiger Woods may be a sleazy liar, or a really bland boring guy, but I wouldn't say he's a nerd

lukevalentine, Thursday, 10 December 2009 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link

yea hes a fuckin super-competitive robot assassin and about the best clutch putter ever 2 live, not a nerd

johnny crunch, Thursday, 10 December 2009 01:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Donald Trump to "Extra": "Tiger is going to be hotter than ever before -- mark my words."

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 01:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Tiger Woods may be a sleazy liar, or a really bland boring guy, but I wouldn't say he's a nerd

Neither would I, but that was how he was perceived. I mean, look at the "draft" skit on Chappelle Show, and that was way way later in his career.

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 01:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, "not a nerd" vs. "like a robot".

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 01:46 (fourteen years ago) link

good 2 know the donald has an opinion on this

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 10 December 2009 01:53 (fourteen years ago) link

From here:http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/people/mistress-grubbs-says-sorry-to-tigers-wife-20091210-kl7v.html?autostart=1

Grubbs said she was last with Woods on October 18 - about a month before his controversial November 27 car crash.

She said Woods made her "feel like I was the only girl, so to go back and see specifically now when there's more and it's really hard".

She explained that she felt the need to come forward with her story after hearing she wasn't Woods's only woman.

"Seeing that was devastating. It hurts," she said, adding that they were "done" as soon as she found out.

Oh ok, so him being *married* was ok, but he had other mistresses? That HURTS, man!

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Thursday, 10 December 2009 02:57 (fourteen years ago) link

that poor girl, led astray by her heart and a world-famous billionaire's smile. she was only 20 when they met, after all, and so innocent.

http://www.poptower.com/images/db/5969/420/300/jaimee-grubbs.jpg

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 10 December 2009 03:06 (fourteen years ago) link

She does look innocent, it's true.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 10 December 2009 03:07 (fourteen years ago) link

she looks like michael jackson

harbl, Thursday, 10 December 2009 03:09 (fourteen years ago) link

this tiger thing is making me depressed cause it's like, even if you're worth a billion dollars and famous the best you can do is jamie grubbs??

囧 (dyao), Thursday, 10 December 2009 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Michael Jackson going as Tina Turner for Halloween.

Action Orientation (Eazy), Thursday, 10 December 2009 03:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Tiger: I will wear you out soon

Jaimee: how soon? I got a new piercing

Tiger: really. Where

Jaimee: I just sent u a pic of it ... is on my cheek below my eye ... implanted a little diamond

Tiger: send it again. I didn't pick up on that

Tiger: you just need some attention from me

Tiger: do you have a boy friend (8:45 p.m.)

Jaimee: I don't even have someone I am dating ... no ... u can be my boyfriend ;)

Tiger: then I am

Jaimee: I wish

Tiger: quiet and secretively we will always be together

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 10 December 2009 03:47 (fourteen years ago) link

The dumb text messages are much worse than the cheating.

ô_o (Nicole), Thursday, 10 December 2009 03:51 (fourteen years ago) link

aw no way is that genuine? it sounds like mystic spam!

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 03:53 (fourteen years ago) link

tiger quietly and secretively we will always be together no more laughs in the locker room make her moan

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 03:54 (fourteen years ago) link

dyao painfully otm

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 10 December 2009 03:55 (fourteen years ago) link

jeff that thread is amazing

matt those txts are... wow, it's like all cheatertexts could just be sent from the same cheatbot

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 10 December 2009 04:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Donald Trump to "Extra": "Tiger is going to be hotter than ever before -- mark my words."

― real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, December 9, 2009 8:44 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hotter than ever before -- to coked up skanks -- mark my words

Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 04:05 (fourteen years ago) link

looool i only just noticed thread title change i am slow

102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 04:07 (fourteen years ago) link

hooooly shit at those text messages

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 04:39 (fourteen years ago) link

he seems like really immature and jealous!!

102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 04:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Jaimee: if we hang out on a Sundway we can watch desperate houswives again haha (Sept. 30, 3:38 p.m.)

Tiger: oh god

Jaimee: take a break from watching boring old golf

Jaimee: I mean the amazing sport of golf ;)

Jaimee: [more than an hour later] babe I was kidding

Tiger: I know sexy

balearific, Thursday, 10 December 2009 04:51 (fourteen years ago) link

lolol

balearific, Thursday, 10 December 2009 04:51 (fourteen years ago) link

this tiger thing is making me depressed cause it's like, even if you're worth a billion dollars and famous the best you can do is jamie grubbs??

― 囧 (dyao), Wednesday, December 9, 2009 10:18 PM (1 hour ago)

ha see i dont get this argument - she wasn't the "best he could do" - he had like a hundred other girls. she was just one of them. not to mention he was still married to his wife, also v hot

k3vin k., Thursday, 10 December 2009 04:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Jaimee: I have fun with u, you always make me smile and I am not afraid to be myself or say anything to u ... the day I met u I thought u were going to kick me out a few times but for someone reason you didn't and u have told me numerous times I talk to much but slowly as I get to know u iI think your absolutely amazing

Tiger: you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon

omar little, Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:07 (fourteen years ago) link

amazing

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Apparently Jamie Grubbs had sexy w/George Clooney now too? Does she have a magic vagina?

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/source-tiger-woods-mistress-dated-george-clooney-2009912

ô_o (Nicole), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:08 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe the camera hates her is all

Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:13 (fourteen years ago) link

What does Tiger mean by "I'm bone thugs in harmon(y)"?

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:19 (fourteen years ago) link

no it's harmon, as in butch

102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:22 (fourteen years ago) link

no wait that makes it even weirder, scratch that

102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:23 (fourteen years ago) link

haha

velko, Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:24 (fourteen years ago) link

I know sexy

unified theory of objectionable thoughts (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:25 (fourteen years ago) link

would it be weirder if he was bone thugs in his ex coach or the 1986 sexiest man alive

102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:26 (fourteen years ago) link

it's sad how mark sanford turns out to be a way better texting romancer than tiger woods.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Jaimee: very true ... I only watch football

Tiger: Figured you would say that. Big black guys.

Jaimee: u are my first, last and only black guy! U should feel special

Tiger: why do I not believe that?

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:29 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.yelp.com/topic/new-york-the-first-black-guy-hook-up-question

velko, Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:34 (fourteen years ago) link

how did these texts surface, the girl leaked them? fucking bitch if so

k3vin k., Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:53 (fourteen years ago) link

TS: blasian vs afriatic

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Jaimee: well I appreciate you not wanting to wake me up but if y couldn't sleep I would have rather sat up and talked to u more ... find out why I keep falling more and more for u ;)

Tiger: Because I'm blasian :)

O_O

xp haha

k3vin k., Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:00 (fourteen years ago) link

i can't keep up with all the developments here, maybe this was already posted

UsMagazine.com describes an erotic dream that Tiger Woods reportedly sent Rachel Uchitel, one of his alleged mistresses. According to the web site, Woods told Uchitel in an email that he envisioned her having sex with Derek Jeter and Bones star David Boreanaz at the same time. The juicy email describes his fantasy in lurid detail:

"I had a dream we were married and I was leading the tournament," Woods reportedly wrote. "I came home, excited to see you, and there you were in the bedroom getting f--ked by Derek and David (Boreanaz). Some part of me thinks you would like that."

velko, Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:06 (fourteen years ago) link

ok now thats just strange

Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:28 (fourteen years ago) link

also snoopy dawg yr thinking of 67

Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:29 (fourteen years ago) link

is passive-aggressive creep about his jealousy, has cuckold fantasies, projects them onto his dates. hooray for gross things to know!

is tiger the first american male player-type celeb to be outed & shamed like this in the nu-age? nsfw images, e-mail exchanges, tmi, etc. has happened to politicians, but no other "big star" that i know of.

i mean cuz, wave of the future...

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:40 (fourteen years ago) link

quiet and secretively we will always be together

quiet and secretively we will always be together (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:46 (fourteen years ago) link

quiet secretively we will always be together bonin' thugs in harmon

囧 (dyao), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:52 (fourteen years ago) link

i know sexy

unified theory of objectionable thoughts (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:53 (fourteen years ago) link

this entire story is just insane

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Thursday, 10 December 2009 07:20 (fourteen years ago) link

http://cdn1.ioffer.com/img/item/358/728/51/896.jpg

See you at the crossroads.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 10 December 2009 09:04 (fourteen years ago) link

http://cdn1.ioffer.com/img/item/358/728/51/896.jpg

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 10 December 2009 09:04 (fourteen years ago) link

btw, boreanaz and jeter? He's even bland and white in his male sex fantasies

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 10 December 2009 09:05 (fourteen years ago) link

genuinely thought those text messages were spoofs til i clicked the link, what the actual fuck

lex pretend, Thursday, 10 December 2009 09:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I know sexy

krampus activities (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 December 2009 09:11 (fourteen years ago) link

There's something kinda scary abt "boy friend". Or just stupid, I guess.

The reverse TARDIS of pasta (Niles Caulder), Thursday, 10 December 2009 09:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Tiger: having an asian mother and a military father you cannot and will not ever be full of yourself

^^kind of sad

lex pretend, Thursday, 10 December 2009 09:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Wow at some of those comments on the txts article.

he may very well lose endorsements due to his wife's stupid hysterical conduct.

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 10 December 2009 09:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Tiger's grammar was impeccable except for the part where he omitted a word or two "Tiger: I will you Sunda night."

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 10 December 2009 09:39 (fourteen years ago) link

you never her!

getting herbed on air (stevie), Thursday, 10 December 2009 09:40 (fourteen years ago) link

He never her.

xpost DAMNIT!

Mark G, Thursday, 10 December 2009 09:40 (fourteen years ago) link

btw, boreanaz and jeter? He's even bland and white in his male sex fantasies

i think he just picked them because they've both been linked to her before.

rad bromance (Roz), Thursday, 10 December 2009 10:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Jealousy, so hot right now

The reverse TARDIS of pasta (Niles Caulder), Thursday, 10 December 2009 10:18 (fourteen years ago) link

btw, boreanaz and jeter? He's even bland and white in his male sex fantasies

i think he just picked them because they've both been linked to her before.

― rad bromance (Roz), Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:17 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wow

jeter, clooney, tiger and....

Boreanaz

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 10 December 2009 10:34 (fourteen years ago) link

this entire story is just stupid

cozwn, Thursday, 10 December 2009 10:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Woods told Uchitel in an email that he envisioned her having sex with Derek Jeter and Bones star David Boreanaz at the same time.

hehe 'and bones star david boreanaz at the same time'

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 10 December 2009 11:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Tiger: having an asian mother and a military father you cannot and will not ever be full of yourself

well then

call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:52 (fourteen years ago) link

god he sounds like such a mess in these

call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:52 (fourteen years ago) link

he's just playin dat ho

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link

(or: you don't necessarily get a great picture of a person from reading texts sent to someone they want to bang)

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link

well i think they sound fucked up for texts sent to a person you want to bang is my point

call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I use that line all the time it is great the girls love it

囧 (dyao), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:01 (fourteen years ago) link

i dunno, so much depends on the target audience.

that said, quiet and secretively we will always be together

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:01 (fourteen years ago) link

hey baby, I'm never full of myself, you wanna know why

囧 (dyao), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link

cos you're blasian?

it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link

blasian squad

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Blasian Saddoes

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link

cant say that ive ever expressed off-color attitudes about race in my sexytime texts

max, Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link

i think a racy message every now and then doesn't harm things

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link

you guys aren't doing it right

囧 (dyao), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link

haven't you read neil patrick harris' the game

囧 (dyao), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link

the bible of picking up girls imo

囧 (dyao), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:09 (fourteen years ago) link

This fuckin' guy...

I'm glad I'm of an age that predates text messaging so I can just point and laugh. Anyone who is any combo of rich/famous/married who sends sexy texts is just body surfing on razor blades, I mean wtf.

WmC, Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

people used to just send letters i suppose?

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link

i wonder if tiger's father ever sent a letter about seeing his mother getting boned by Roger Maris and Michael Landon?

eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

haven't you read neil patrick harris' the game

― 囧 (dyao), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:08 (3 hours ago) Bookmark

LOL this has to happen, someone sponsor him

102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link

I hope Tiger pulls a Jordan and retires from golf to play baseball.

Euler, Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link

He seems more suited (har) to high-stakes poker, it seems to fit his action-junkie style. (if having hot blonde sexy in every port of call is characteristic of action-junkie style)

WmC, Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link

"Jaimee Grubbs - a 24-year-old cocktail waitress who broke the news to Us Weekly that she had a 31-month-affair with Tiger Woods - says the golfer, 33, never wanted to use protection. "He didn't use a condom," says Grubbs, who adds that Woods also didn't ask if she was on birth control, either. "It wasn't even discussed. He just never used one." Apparently, he also didn't use condoms while bedding 33-year-old restaurant manager Mindy Lawton, according to Lawton's sister, Lynn. "She said he never wore condoms," Lynn told British tabloid, News of the World. "I was so worried she might catch a disease, especially as we suspected he was promiscuous."

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I imagine everyone involved in this story has a permanent low grade fever.

ô_o (Nicole), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

man i was really hoping steve sailer had some outtasite crepey racist stuff to say about this, but it's been kinda restrained tbf

goole, Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

thing i fuckin' hate hearing on all the radio discussion is all this "you know...tiger really needs to take time off and try to rebuild his family and save his marriage" and shit...it's like what about HER? why the fuck should this marriage be saved? jesus christ she should drop him like it's hott and take him for every penny she can!

eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link

xps he does have some super creepy sexist crap about it tho!! if you are interested and i know that you are

http://isteve.blogspot.com/2009/12/super-jocks-and-marriage-dynastic-urge.html

comments are a treat.

if you are not familiar with mr steve sailer or "vdare", well, i'm sorry to be the guy to introduce you right now

goole, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

http://imgur.com/J9v0g.jpg

StanM, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

and shit...it's like what about HER? why the fuck should this marriage be saved?

^^^^this at the heart of my reaction to presumptuous fuck reilly. she's just an element of the pr strategy

xpost

bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

thing i fuckin' hate hearing on all the radio discussion is all this "you know...tiger really needs to take time off and try to rebuild his family and save his marriage" and shit...it's like what about HER? why the fuck should this marriage be saved? jesus christ she should drop him like it's hott and take him for every penny she can!

― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n)

it's kinda like a dude who suddenly has financial troubles but really wants to keep his fancy sports car and his buddies are like, "get your shit in order and re-negotiate your monthly payment and i think it'll be okay...just don't go spending money on other shit for awhile until you're in the clear"

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

because i mean i think dudes like that think of women in just those terms

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

so what would your hypothetical advice to tiger woods be

k3vin k., Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

not saying you're wrong, i agree w/ u and matt, just asking

k3vin k., Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

like the advice i would give would be, "dude, look, you don't want her as a wife and you don't care about her and if you did, you wouldn't be doing this kind of shit because it's not just a single drunken fling, it's a pattern and for her sake as well as yours just end it."

― omar little, Wednesday, December 9, 2009 2:00 PM (Yesterday)

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I imagine everyone involved in this story has a permanent low grade fever.

― ô_o (Nicole), Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:49 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban

Excellent, if unintentional (?), Parks and Recreation reference!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I wonder how this is coming along?

url=http://www.tigerwoodsdubai.com/

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 10 December 2009 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Advice: next time, find someone who's OK with an open marriage.

Action Orientation (Eazy), Thursday, 10 December 2009 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link

like the advice i would give would be, "dude, look, you don't want her as a wife and you don't care about her and if you did, you wouldn't be doing this kind of shit because it's not just a single drunken fling, it's a pattern and for her sake as well as yours just end it."

Why can't he love his wife? Maybe he likes/liked this life. Fuck around but come back to his wife. And of course the partner most probably never really accepts this. But maybe some marriages can work this way. I mean, I'm not saying I'm like this nor would I accept this, but I can sort of understand some marriages are like this or could work like this.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 11 December 2009 09:34 (fourteen years ago) link

It's "Celeb" marriage. The rules (such as they are) are different.

See, here is a situation where the man is 'desirable', so the 'temptations' are rife. So, what's the deal? Does he resolutely stick to his monogamy, or does he have an understanding (spoken or unspoken) that as long as he 'doesn't bring it out/home' and other half is 300 miles away (or whatever) and away for a month (or so), it's alright but don't go braggin?'...

(Swap genders in that one for whichever situ)

It's either that or 'wife/husband walks out, takes kids, and goes back to living in council house, etc.'

(All those rock bands, actors, sportsmen, etc, passim)

Mark G, Friday, 11 December 2009 09:39 (fourteen years ago) link

That's all a question, not a statement, obv.

Ref: Winning the Lottery and Becoming Promiscuous?

Mark G, Friday, 11 December 2009 09:40 (fourteen years ago) link

It's "Celeb" marriage. The rules (such as they are) are different.

and this is why i rejected celebrity, when it was thrust upon me

more plastercaulk than clusterfuck amirite (stevie), Friday, 11 December 2009 09:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Excellent, if unintentional (?), Parks and Recreation reference!

It was completely intentional. Tiger would love The Glitter Factory.

ô_o (Nicole), Friday, 11 December 2009 11:42 (fourteen years ago) link

And so his big plan is - take her on a cruise!

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Friday, 11 December 2009 13:10 (fourteen years ago) link

DO YOU KNOW ANY WOMEN LINKED TO TIGER WOODS? CONTACT NEWSDESK ON (+44) 0207 938 6364

ô_o (Nicole), Friday, 11 December 2009 13:26 (fourteen years ago) link

So not only is there that Tiger's Wood parody porno, but heard this morning that Vivid is offering a million bucks to any of his mistresses willing to star in a porn.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 December 2009 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link

It's either that or 'wife/husband walks out, takes kids, and goes back to living in council house, etc.'

seriously? celebrity wives do not go to live in council houses after a divorce, and i'd imagine in particular after a divorce where he's been caught cheating.

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Friday, 11 December 2009 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Not necessarily 'seriously', but there is that whole 'upheaval' and to a possibly lesser extent a change in circumstances.

OK, more like "Not living in quite as much a big place, not hanging out with famous/glam faces as much"

And, naturally, I wasn't being specific to high-earners anyway.

Mark G, Friday, 11 December 2009 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link

It's about the imbalance of power.

Which is there in a lot of relationships, but it's more pointed in the 'wife/husb of celeb' situation.

Mark G, Friday, 11 December 2009 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't think it is, tbh. if you divorce a billionaire you're going to be independently wealthy for life. if you're a middle aged mother of four that's never worked in order to raise kids etc then you're in a much worse situation.

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Friday, 11 December 2009 14:47 (fourteen years ago) link

mark are u a doctor of celebrity marriage or waht

max, Friday, 11 December 2009 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link

This seems like a complete waste of time money
British court blocks Tiger Woods photos

"For the avoidance of doubt, this order is not to be taken as an admission that any such photographs exist," Schillings said in a letter sent to legal departments of British publications.

Hilarious.

Ned Trifle II, Friday, 11 December 2009 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Very odd. If the order doesn't allow it to be revealed what those circumstances are, how on earth are you supposed to know whether you're about to break it?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 December 2009 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link

so what would your hypothetical advice to tiger woods be

― k3vin k., Thursday, December 10, 2009 7:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

not saying you're wrong, i agree w/ u and matt, just asking

― k3vin k., Thursday, December 10, 2009 7:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i guess i don't really have any advice for tiger woods. except like "yr an asshole?"

i just think it's annoying how they act like these decisions are all on tiger, as if she shouldn't or doesn't have a voice in it...

eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 11 December 2009 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link

i guess it's this idea that above all the marriage NEEDS to be saved, as if that's the important thing

it's pretty obvious he's not a good husband so why should she even think about trying to save the marriage, she should just move on.

eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 11 December 2009 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link

otm, why on earth would either of them stick with an arrangement that doesn't seem to be working

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Friday, 11 December 2009 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

One of Woods' alleged mistresses, Jamie Jungers, appearead on a U.S. morning television show today to claim that Woods had broken her hearat.

k3vin k., Friday, 11 December 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Her hearat shaped box more like, amirite?

Ned Trifle II, Friday, 11 December 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

my advice: get a divorce, show some class man damn

ice cr?m, Friday, 11 December 2009 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Why can't he love his wife? Maybe he likes/liked this life. Fuck around but come back to his wife. And of course the partner most probably never really accepts this. But maybe some marriages can work this way. I mean, I'm not saying I'm like this nor would I accept this, but I can sort of understand some marriages are like this or could work like this.

― Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, December 11, 2009 1:34 AM (7 hours ago)

if he got drunk and banged a couple of girls on the side once or twice, maybe i could buy that, but this was calculated. plus the whole "no condoms" thing makes me think he doesn't give a shit about himself or his wife w/r/t STDs.

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Friday, 11 December 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

show some class man damn

Uh, bit late for that perhaps

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Friday, 11 December 2009 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

each day is born anew

ice cr?m, Friday, 11 December 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

He should team up with Susie Bright and do a podcast about non-monogamy.

Action Orientation (Eazy), Friday, 11 December 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

He should team up with Kanye West and do an 808 & Heartbreak/Here, My Dear breakup album.

Cunga, Friday, 11 December 2009 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

I couldn't believe it when I saw Tiger had an injunction against the UK media. Bound to be a shitstorm in media/legal circles over that.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 December 2009 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link

injunction here

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 December 2009 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

how does the injunction cover internet message boards based in the uk?

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 December 2009 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

tigers real name is Eldrick????

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 December 2009 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Eldrick Tiger "El Dick" Woods iirc

Cunga, Friday, 11 December 2009 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't know how this works. The whole thing looks a total mess to me - an order against 'persons unknown', identified only by what they might do, in relation to things which may not exist, and the content of which order cannot be revealed except by Tiger and his lawyers? I see it was issued by Mr Justice Eady, who has acquired a name for himself with previous injunctions and libel things.

(the injunction is England & Wales only though, and ILX is based in the US I think (or is it Canada?), so at least you should be fine, should you happen to be the possessor of the snaps in question)

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 December 2009 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I think the Avatar embargo would prevent them from being posted.

ô_o (Nicole), Friday, 11 December 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link

because of the wang

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 December 2009 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link

In the latest bombshell in the Tiger Woods story, Jamie Jungers told Meredith Vieira this morning on Today that Tiger fully pursued her, that they were like “girlfriend and boyfriend” and that he didn’t try to hide her.

During the year-and-a-half relationship, he only mentioned wife Elin Nordegren one time. According to Jamie, Tiger made no effort to hide her: They went out to restaurants, they went out together, and they were even photographed together.

As for allegations she was paid for sex, Jamie said she actually never took money from Tiger, and that the reason they broke up was that Tiger wouldn’t help her when she had financial troubles. What’s more, Jamie says couldn’t be with someone who wouldn’t help her out in that way. Still, she said all she got from the relationship was “a broken heart.”

wait... but... I... ?_?

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 11 December 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I still can't believe that I only just found out Tiger's real name is Eldrick Tont Woods. I just thought his folks had given him a silly name... :)

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 December 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

important eldrick woods related post http://lyfesrsli.tumblr.com/post/268000299/eldrick-woods

ice cr?m, Friday, 11 December 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, whenever jim rome referred to tiger as "eldrick" i just thought it was a goofy dungeonmaster nickname

Mr. Big STFU (ojo), Friday, 11 December 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Sportscenter guys used to occasionally refer to the Detroit Eldricks...

WmC, Friday, 11 December 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I have to admit that, were my given names Eldrick Tont, I too might try to fill the fathomless hole in my soul with a never ending assmbly line of skank poontang.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link

that poor girl. bet she had to cover half the check at dinner, too

k3vin k., Friday, 11 December 2009 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link

have to admit my head's still spinning trying to unpack that one

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

It's above all really, really stupid of Tiger.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I think we should just all him Baldrick from now on.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link

*Call

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link

I wouldn't recommend that a celebrity wantonly fuck around regardless of their proclivities because of the possible media-enhanced blow-back, but if you do, try not to be a total dick to your shagbuddies. I'm sure he felt he was being shaken down, and perhaps he was, but jeeze, dude, use your upper brain for a second or two and don't leave the lady with little other option than to sell her tell-all.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Would someone please shop Tiger's head onto Baldrick or Tony Richardson's onto Tiger when he's doing one of the two-handed fist pumps, please.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link

It's above all really, really stupid of Tiger.

― l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White),

Stupidity born out of boredom, would be my guess.

WmC, Friday, 11 December 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Celebrity isolation, entitlement magnified by the constant ass-tonguing he gets from lick-spittles and hangers-on, and, doubtless, a certain desire to just be a kind of regular dude. To be fair, though, his reputation for quickly and artfully getting in the hole remains intact.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Would have thought the UK injunction to stop the whole Kir$+y G4ll4gh3r story.

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 December 2009 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link

"is to stop", even.

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 December 2009 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link

you know who's coming out of this looking awesome? is Elin, is who:

It also emerged last night that Tiger is in hiding after one of his TEETH was broken when furious wife Elin hurled a mobile phone at him

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2765656/Shamed-golfer-Tiger-Woods-alleged-to-have-lost-a-tooth-in-row.html#ixzz0ZQDFoVOx

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Haven't they known each other for ages?

xpost

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

The Sun is awesome. On the same page they say that his wife is going back home and also say that she's staying in the marriage. Wtf?

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Having experienced the diluted version of Scandinavian passive-aggression growing up, I'm surmising she's just not going to make it easy for him.

special vixens unit (suzy), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/12/11/sports/AP-GLF-Tiger-Woods.html?hp

I think this entire debacle is an epic fail / terribly sad on so many levels. He's an idiot, but wow...

youcangoyourownway, Saturday, 12 December 2009 00:30 (fourteen years ago) link

he typically takes december and january off anyway so this is strictly pr

call all destroyer, Saturday, 12 December 2009 00:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Christmas just got cancelled at Tim Finchem's house.

WmC, Saturday, 12 December 2009 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link

lol i can't wait for bill simmons' inevitable, "buddy if you have to cheat, cheat like this!" column w/a point-by-point list of protips from his vegas buddies.

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Saturday, 12 December 2009 00:48 (fourteen years ago) link

tiger woods is gone off the golf because of you

(i wanted to revive the marissa m. thread but it was LOCKED BY AN ADMIN)

Siberian Klaatu (get bent), Saturday, 12 December 2009 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe, but it's hard to be the face of Accenture when you're a punchline

― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, December 9, 2009

Accenture first sponsor to cut ties with Woods: http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/pga/news?slug=ap-tigerwoods-accenture&prov=ap&type=lgns

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Sunday, 13 December 2009 23:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Neat bit written here by a local columnist:

http://www.peteramescarlin.com/node/70

...More than a man, more than the vast majority of professional athletes, he has become a projection: The embodiment of all the dreams, fantasies and fears we have for ourselves.

It’s virtually the only life Woods has ever had. Which may be why he has been so successful at using his own media persona as a combination shield, power source and marketing device. Just as he does on the golf course, he’s played all the angles, breezes, hills and hazards to his own advantage. The only trap he never anticipated was how his own ability to focus on himself could work against him. And once it did, how quickly the media narrative can pivot from unquestioning adulation to unrelenting contempt...

kingfish, Monday, 14 December 2009 05:09 (fourteen years ago) link

there was a man in the train today with a sign that said "defend tiger"

Do you love me now? (surm), Monday, 14 December 2009 05:12 (fourteen years ago) link

'lion cheetah tiger' still the best pun we've gotten out of this.

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 05:13 (fourteen years ago) link

“We build people up just to rip them apart,” said Dr. Lee Wilkins, who teaches media ethics in the University of Missouri’s journalism school. “It’s pretty grotesque when you think about it.”

see i don't really buy this line on this particular story. i mean, ok, yes, right, we all know that. but tiger's problem is not "just being human" or however the media critics would put it. what i think is under-discussed or appreciated is how much this whole thing reveals about the kind of privilege and entitlement conferred by wealth and status. the deadspin article started to get into that, talking about how this was a not-uncommon sort of thing for millionaire athletes. but it's not just athletes; millionaires of all kinds live in this realm of private clubs and resorts, personal services that can requisition whatever you want, and it all leads to a whole lot of what most people would consider pretty gross behavior. that's the aspect that i think is most interesting, and just making this a story of one man's sins sort of obscures that.

and ok, there's nothing new or shocking about rich people being pigs. but we don't really hear enough about it, i don't think. every individual case of excess is treated as an individual case of excess, not as a symptom of some fundamental rot in a society that has spent the last several decades transferring more and more of our wealth to a small number of people at the top. and that's why i think the "oh we build them up to tear them down" narrative is deeply suspect, because it makes us somehow responsible for their abuses of power and wealth. it's this whole icarus bullshit, "oh we expect them to fly too close to the sun," blah blah blah. i'm sure tiger woods has a lot of pressures and a lot of problems, but so do lots of people in america, and they don't have millions of dollars to go drown their sorrows in porn stars and ambien. (still really don't get the ambien thing.)

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 December 2009 05:25 (fourteen years ago) link

off with their heads, is what i'm saying.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 December 2009 05:26 (fourteen years ago) link

what most people would consider pretty gross behavior

hmm, maybe most people would consider it pretty gross behaviour, but then if most people were millionaires i'm not certain they'd be behaving any differently wrt to their own preferred indulgences & fuck whatever 'most people' think.

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 05:33 (fourteen years ago) link

and ok, there's nothing new or shocking about rich people being pigs. but we don't really hear enough about it, i don't think. every individual case of excess is treated as an individual case of excess, not as a symptom of some fundamental rot in a society that has spent the last several decades transferring more and more of our wealth to a small number of people at the top.

Okay, yeah, there's a point to this.

yeah, but we _never_ look at things from a systemic view. Simple direct causation is the rule of the day, even we know that's bullshit. It's like what happens when we have a mass shooting. Each thing is a self-contained, unrelated act, a lone gunman who suddenly went mad one day. Everything else in modern culture is just fine, there's only this one bad thing. Some people are just inherently bad.

Different people have written about this, the 'one Bad Apple spoils the barrel' thinking(I've most recently read Lakoff's take on it). Use that viewpoint, and the system is fine, just this guy went off. Remove him and everything will return to normalcy.

kingfish, Monday, 14 December 2009 05:37 (fourteen years ago) link

f most people were millionaires i'm not certain they'd be behaving any differently

i think this is true up to a point, tho i think there are also some personality traits that lend themselves to the accumulation of wealth -- i.e. ambition, ego, greed and ruthlessness -- that also lead some fabulously wealthy people to behave particularly badly. but also, that sort of becomes more self-justification for powerful people to act abysmally. "your honor, i'm rich, what do you expect? i blame society!"

but ok, if we were going to say that wealth turns people into disgusting savages, then that would at least be healthier than this country's tendency to idolize and fawn over our upper 1 percent, like we're just so pleased that they're willing to grace us with their home spreads in architectural digest.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 December 2009 05:52 (fourteen years ago) link

(sorry, there's nothing like the prospect of unemployment to make one start to lose sympathy for misbehaving millionaires.)

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 December 2009 05:53 (fourteen years ago) link

if we were going to say that wealth turns people into disgusting savages

wealth, lack of consequences, fame, opportunity. opportunity more than any of them, maybe.

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 05:55 (fourteen years ago) link

well we could take some of that opportunity away by raising their goddamn taxes!

it's funny how when wealthy people moan that raising their marginal rates will hurt job creation, they never make it clear that they mean jobs in the nightlife-personal-services sector.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 December 2009 05:59 (fourteen years ago) link

fetish dominatrices of the world unite, you have nothing to lose but your chains?

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 06:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I kind of doubt that the majority of millionaires lead sexually indulgent lifestyles or "act out" in major ways. I would think the majority of millionaires are crusty post-middle aged white dudes and unlikely to be playboys or majorly careless and irresponsible.

Wealth may partially explain Tiger's wanton behavior, but celebrity is far more likely to play a key role IMO.

Super Cub, Monday, 14 December 2009 06:25 (fourteen years ago) link

well the majority of millionaires are likely to be crusty old white dudes, so let's maybe allow that a physically fit billionaire under the age of 35 is in a slightly different category.

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 06:35 (fourteen years ago) link

^Yes, but how many of those are there? 1?

So are we to surmise that physically fit billionaires under the age of 35 are morally depraved? Okay, but I think tipsy was making the point that TW's behavior is indicative of a larger pattern of behavior amongst the very rich.

Super Cub, Monday, 14 December 2009 06:42 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, i accept that point, and am just tryin to point out that there's a number of reasons we'd all like to be very rich, and being able to do what we want is one of them. a normal loving relationship is well and good if it's all you can get, but c'mon dude's a BILLIONAIRE

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 06:48 (fourteen years ago) link

plus we don't really know anything about the lives of most superrich celebrities. it's all projection. after all, poor people get up to all kinds of crazy shit, too.

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Monday, 14 December 2009 06:51 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm sure tiger is more of an irredeemable horndog than your average multi-millionaire. (well i'm not actually sure of that, but i'm willing to grant that it's likely.) my point is that he exists in this world of incredible luxury and entitlement where whatever it is that you want to indulge yourself in is made readily available to you. and no, i don't think that is an unusual thing among the very wealthy. i think it's sort of part of the point of being very wealthy. and these kinds of clubs and vip rooms and whatever else it is that enables tiger's peccadilloes also exist to cater to your hedge fund traders and real estate moguls and corporate honchos. we only ever get to see into that world via either gorgeously lit and shot magazine spreads or through the occasional eliot spitzer/tiger woods/john-thain-office-furniture type scandal. but it exists all the time, fenced off and protected from normal expectations of behavior and personal accountability. and these stories never become about that, they always turn into individual psychoanalysis (why did it he do it? because of his father?) or thumbsucking media criticism (did we make him do it?).

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 December 2009 07:00 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost:

poor people do get up to all kinds of crazy shit, but they tend to lack for lawyers and publicists.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 December 2009 07:01 (fourteen years ago) link

I think he did it because he will never be full of himself tbh

囧 (dyao), Monday, 14 December 2009 07:03 (fourteen years ago) link

it was because he had an asian mom and a military father iirc

囧 (dyao), Monday, 14 December 2009 07:04 (fourteen years ago) link

poor people usually also lack anyone really caring, from the other side of that particular coin

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 07:04 (fourteen years ago) link

incredible luxury and entitlement where whatever it is that you want to indulge yourself in is made readily available to you

I don't doubt that this is true, but I don't think that equates to a consequence free life. I would guess that very wealthy/successful people live under a tremendous amount of scrutiny and expectations.

Super Cub, Monday, 14 December 2009 07:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I would guess that very wealthy/successful people live under a tremendous amount of scrutiny and expectations.

someone like tiger does, obviously, by virtue of being famous as well as wealthy. and i'm sure it's true to some degree for less-famous wealthy people. but they also have a lot of resources to deal with scrutiny and expectations. and, you know ... cry me a river.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 December 2009 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Grounds for me not giving a shit about a celebrity's problems: when the celebrity has done something dodgy and uses injunctions to cover it up.

special vixens unit (suzy), Monday, 14 December 2009 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Hi, what is everyone talking about on this thread?

kenan, Monday, 14 December 2009 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Tiger Woods' "Ditch Trilogy"

WmC, Monday, 14 December 2009 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link

just talking about whether or not tiger did well to have pulled all these girls that are way, way hotter than him

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Monday, 14 December 2009 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't think that equates to a consequence free life.

Maybe I'm being paranoid but I gotta disagree: I think normal people have NO FUCKING IDEA what the super-rich get away with. Their lives are probably, in some ways, A LOT cheaper than ours, because everyone wants to do business with their money, so fees and expenses are wiped away, and the road is made smooth for them wherever they go.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Monday, 14 December 2009 15:09 (fourteen years ago) link

^ Wow that is amazingly OTM. Relatively speaking, it's VERY expensive to be poor.

kenan, Monday, 14 December 2009 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost yes laurel otm

I mean it's always comforting to pretend that celebrities are deeply hurt when a "crisis" such as this happens and when their "life falls apart" and feel all smug, but really.

unless you do something actually so batshit you actually get locked up properly in jail or lose all of your money or go completely mental bonkers or whatever.

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Monday, 14 December 2009 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link

laurel otm x2

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 December 2009 15:19 (fourteen years ago) link

No, actually, you can do something that would get a not-rich person jailtime and yet, it doesn't happen to you. You can even be batshit insane, and everyone keeps your secret and acts like your insane demands are realistic. Money insulates people from EVERYTHING in amazing ways.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Monday, 14 December 2009 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe I'm being paranoid but I gotta disagree: I think normal people have NO FUCKING IDEA what the super-rich get away with. Their lives are probably, in some ways, A LOT cheaper than ours, because everyone wants to do business with their money, so fees and expenses are wiped away, and the road is made smooth for them wherever they go.

Jungers also claims that Woods was "always tight with money." In addition to refusing her request for help when she needed money, she says he did not tip: "When we'd go out for dinner, he never left a tip or he'd ask for the meal to be complimentary because he was 'Tiger Woods'. I just thought that was cheap and it always embarrassed me."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/12/jamie-jungers-tiger-woods_n_390053.html

Him being a cheapskate fills me with more rage than just about anything else in this whole shitfest. I fucking HATE rich cheapskates.

WmC, Monday, 14 December 2009 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link

xxp to kenc That's not quite what I mean, though. For instance, if you have bad credit, congrats, you just bought yourself 10x higher interest rates for everything, and if you don't drop back to just a cash-in-hand existence, you're throwing bad money after bad.

kenan, Monday, 14 December 2009 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Him being a cheapskate fills me with more rage than just about anything else in this whole shitfest. I fucking HATE rich cheapskates.

Not tipping and trying to get things for free is disgusting and much worse than the harem of tacky mistresses imho.

ô_o (Nicole), Monday, 14 December 2009 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link

The personal lives of famous people = wide open beavers inside

I don't even really know what Tiger Woods did or did not do, and fuck me sideways if I care

kenan, Monday, 14 December 2009 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Not to be pseudo-righteous. I really honestly don't care.

kenan, Monday, 14 December 2009 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link

I fucking HATE rich cheapskates.

Absolutely indefensible.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Monday, 14 December 2009 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

hmm so we're all just hating on the rich dude now.

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link

and not the freeloader?

Mark G, Monday, 14 December 2009 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm hating on the rich dude who abuses the privilege.

WmC, Monday, 14 December 2009 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, yeah it goes on a lot:

There's a local celeb type person that seems to have some sort of arrangement with a local restaurant, I don't know who wants to be in that sort of position, I assume he's a millionaire..... Anyroad up, gets a meal, gets a very visible table, the night I saw him he had a party of about 10 people, one of whom was also famous.

Anyway, back in the room, at the end of the night, they get the whole place to do the conga, and so on, and every one goes home happy (I guess)...

Obviously the difference is that the restaurant is happy for all this to go on, no-one's going "hey waive the check right?" but as I say, 'it's another world sometimes....'

Mark G, Monday, 14 December 2009 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

hmm so we're all just hating on the rich dude now.
― stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 16:36 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I'm hating on the rich dude who abuses the privilege.
― WmC, Monday, 14 December 2009 16:40 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hmm so we're all just hating on the rich dude now.

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Monday, 14 December 2009 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I reckon so.

WmC, Monday, 14 December 2009 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Tiger may not tip but I believe he likes to go one eighth Dutch

mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 14 December 2009 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't know that I'm hating on him, but I think it's just plain silly to forget that the world is different for the very rich. A lot of people of that status, we just barely ever hear about as they live in relative seclusion compared to "celebrities" except maybe on the social pages, and they go on making obscene money and being slightly crazy behind the scenes. It's different w people like TW because he WAS "one of us" who rose to his current crazy place.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Monday, 14 December 2009 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link

nah, tiger woods was never raised as 'one of us', in fairness

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

i am not tiger woods

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Fine, he was a sports prodigy but he wasn't, like, an ASTOR.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Monday, 14 December 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link

but in terms of how he was raised to view his own inevitable place, earl's parentoring etc

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link

i think that more than wealth, is more likely to be a factor in how he's been treating the disposables that inhabit his world

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link

so is okay if I hate him or not?

WmC, Monday, 14 December 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, I've got things to do, I need a decision here.

WmC, Monday, 14 December 2009 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

it is okay

mookieproof, Monday, 14 December 2009 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

it is laudable for short term popularity, but will not make you a happier person.

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

or richer

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Monday, 14 December 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

unless you've previously shagged him and kept some text messages

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Monday, 14 December 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

or your stained blue dress

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Monday, 14 December 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

See, maybe it's good for dudes to hold off getting married 'til their mid-30s.

Action Orientation (Eazy), Monday, 14 December 2009 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I really don't think age enters into it and that this would've gone down any differently if he was older.

some dude, Monday, 14 December 2009 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link

if he was older it might have been a "concerned pimp cuts off supply of girls to tiger woods" story.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 December 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

He gets his ya-yas out, settles down, plays golf...whole different story.

Action Orientation (Eazy), Monday, 14 December 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

he's obviously got a lifetime supply of ya-yas that he's never going to be rid of, no matter at what age he gets married and pretends to take marriage seriously for the public.

some dude, Monday, 14 December 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean he and his wife have had 2 kids in the past couple years -- if that's not enough to get you to settle down and not be a shitty husband then you're always going to be a shitty husband at any age

some dude, Monday, 14 December 2009 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

doesn't seem to mind being hit by a golf club and mobile phone thrown at face - sounds like a pretty good husband to me

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Monday, 14 December 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Dan Savage this week:

I suppose I'm obligated to say a few words about Tiger Woods. First, let's pretend that Elin Nordegren cheated on Tiger and that Tiger went after Elin with a golf club. Would Elin be viewed as the sole transgressor in the marriage then? Probably not. And second, daily papers and cable news outfits reacted to Tiger's "transgressions" by changing the names in the same "Why do powerful men cheat?" stories they've been pimping since Bill Clinton blew a load on a White House intern. For the millionth time: Men cheat for the same reasons women cheat, i.e., because they're bored or horny or unfulfilled or desperate to see someone else naked for a change. People cheat because monogamy isn't natural and we are wired to cheat. That doesn't make cheating right, of course; people should honor their commitments, and blah-de-nine-iron-blah. But we shouldn't encourage people to make commitments we all know they're unlikely to keep. The end.

Action Orientation (Eazy), Monday, 14 December 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link

i think this is just more arguments for the introduction of video technology in marriage?

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Monday, 14 December 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I think it's pretty much established that he crossed the line.

blue_eyes chrono_trigger dirty engineer glasses (onimo), Monday, 14 December 2009 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i always thought dan savage underestimated the ability of people who were in awesome relationships to *not* give in to the urge to cheat.

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Monday, 14 December 2009 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i get what savage is saying except i don't really know what this means:

But we shouldn't encourage people to make commitments we all know they're unlikely to keep.

call all destroyer, Monday, 14 December 2009 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link

blah-de-nine-iron-blah

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Monday, 14 December 2009 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link

He means "People cheat because monogamy isn't natural and we are wired to cheat." i.e., serial monogomy's fine if you want to make that commitment, but committing to it for a lifetime doesn't make much sense.

He seems to have gradually become more anti-marriage in the last year or two, or at least since I started listening to his podcast.

WmC, Monday, 14 December 2009 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

"Young men want to be faithful, and are not; old men want to be faithless, and cannot." - Oscar Wilde

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Monday, 14 December 2009 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah wmc it's his use of "we" as if we all got together and publicly pressured tiger woods to get married.

call all destroyer, Monday, 14 December 2009 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, he's jamming a macro-view and a micro-view together here and it's not fitting together perfectly.

WmC, Monday, 14 December 2009 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Oscar Wilde OTM. Dan Savage misses the point of at least 3/4 of everything he says about monogamy, and he actually kinda pisses me off pretty much weekly. I've been listening to him for years, and the progression has been VERY slow, but I kinda think he might be a sick old pervert.

kenan, Monday, 14 December 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe, but as a sick old pervert myself, I like having somebody speaking up for my tribe.

WmC, Monday, 14 December 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

that whole "we're not wired for monogamy" argument kinda depresses me, because we're probably also not wired for pacifism or not looking out for anyone other than ourselves, but somehow a lot--if not most--of us manage to do it because people have managed to evolve to get beyond giving in helplessly to our wiring.

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Monday, 14 December 2009 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link

omar otm.

and from my cursory reading of neurology, psychology, and evolutionary theory, we're about as wired for altruism and loyalty as we are for selfishness and cheating. what's more, there's plenty of evidence that we can 'rewire' ourselves in one direction or another.

collardio gelatinous, Monday, 14 December 2009 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

wrt savage, whenever someone trots out the word "natural," my inner red light starts flashing danger

should i lol or ;_; (Hunt3r), Monday, 14 December 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

i like the blah de nine iron blah tho- heft

should i lol or ;_; (Hunt3r), Monday, 14 December 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I agreed with Dan up to this point:

But we shouldn't encourage people to make commitments we all know they're unlikely to keep.

Noone forced Tiger Woods (with an iron) to marry and make a commitment. You (or rather Tiger) knew what he was getting himself into: a relationship where you commit to monogamy (or supposedly so, I realize there are lots of relationships/marriages where fucking around is allowed or the partner looks the other way).

Nathalie (stevienixed), Monday, 14 December 2009 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I think his point is that, to a certain extent, anything other than married monogamy is frowned upon, especially by the kinds of people who form the core of the advertising markets from which Tiger has made much of his money.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Monday, 14 December 2009 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

so now tiger is being oppressed by the puritanical morality of accenture's marketing department?

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 December 2009 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

No, but he was essentially trying to have it both ways; be an icon and also be an adulterous lothario in a culture which frowns on that and I think Savage is (rather naively) suggesting that we shouldn't insist on such standards. Accenture is just trying to exploit his celebrity but once that turns to notoriety, it doesn't serve them.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Monday, 14 December 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link

The more I think about it, the more I'm struck by how weird it is that he's such a relentless collector of blondes. It feels like revenge for high school or something.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Monday, 14 December 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Who gives a fuck. I wanted to hate on his wife but on close inspection she is cuter than those other chicks. Big yawn.

US EEL (u s steel), Monday, 14 December 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

so much cuter

Do you love me now? (surm), Monday, 14 December 2009 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link

why are all the other ones so ugly?

Do you love me now? (surm), Monday, 14 December 2009 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link

it's like if ur gonna ruin ur life...

Do you love me now? (surm), Monday, 14 December 2009 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link

def. not a jennifer aniston for angelina jolie trade up amirite guys? anyone?

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 14 December 2009 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

As bad as he is for playing out, I've gotta wonder about skanky women who a) get involved with a married man and b) expect him to 'take care of them' when by being with them he's already proved he's not worth trusting to take care of a damned thing.

special vixens unit (suzy), Monday, 14 December 2009 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

beyond some very basic biological functions (eating, sexing, shitting, etc.) anyone who uses the "we're not wired for _____" argument is totally suspect to me. oldest rhetorical trick in the book, and a really annoying one.

a triumph in high-tech nipple obfuscation (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 December 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

The 'other' women are really....rough.

Lord Byron Bay of Pigs (SeekAltRoute), Monday, 14 December 2009 22:58 (fourteen years ago) link

The more I think about it, the more I'm struck by how weird it is that he's such a relentless collector of blondes. It feels like revenge for high school or something.

― l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Monday, December 14, 2009 5:38 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

guys generally favor one hair color or another, seems weird to me to assume that kind of tendency has to stem from some trauma or formative social experience

some dude, Monday, 14 December 2009 22:58 (fourteen years ago) link

i know i'm late but

see i don't really buy this line on this particular story. i mean, ok, yes, right, we all know that. but tiger's problem is not "just being human" or however the media critics would put it. what i think is under-discussed or appreciated is how much this whole thing reveals about the kind of privilege and entitlement conferred by wealth and status. the deadspin article started to get into that, talking about how this was a not-uncommon sort of thing for millionaire athletes. but it's not just athletes; millionaires of all kinds live in this realm of private clubs and resorts, personal services that can requisition whatever you want, and it all leads to a whole lot of what most people would consider pretty gross behavior. that's the aspect that i think is most interesting, and just making this a story of one man's sins sort of obscures that.

and ok, there's nothing new or shocking about rich people being pigs. but we don't really hear enough about it, i don't think. every individual case of excess is treated as an individual case of excess, not as a symptom of some fundamental rot in a society that has spent the last several decades transferring more and more of our wealth to a small number of people at the top. and that's why i think the "oh we build them up to tear them down" narrative is deeply suspect, because it makes us somehow responsible for their abuses of power and wealth. it's this whole icarus bullshit, "oh we expect them to fly too close to the sun," blah blah blah. i'm sure tiger woods has a lot of pressures and a lot of problems, but so do lots of people in america, and they don't have millions of dollars to go drown their sorrows in porn stars and ambien. (still really don't get the ambien thing.)

― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Sunday, December 13, 2009 9:25 PM

this is really really OTM and i've actually been amazed that of all places Deadspin is the only venue i've seen approaching this seriously.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 14 December 2009 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, it's not like he took a swing at any of these women with a golf club...

Action Orientation (Eazy), Monday, 14 December 2009 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link

guys generally favor one hair color or another, seems weird to me to assume that kind of tendency has to stem from some trauma or formative social experience

Is this true? Maybe it's just that I was always an equal-opportunity slut.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Monday, 14 December 2009 23:23 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't think any of these girls are "ugly" necessarily, they're just party girl types who are putting out that "up for anything" vibe that guys like tiger woods find appealing, because they know they don't have to try too hard to get them where they want them.

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Monday, 14 December 2009 23:32 (fourteen years ago) link

The more I think about it, there's a reason why it's illegal to swing a stick at someone in a violent rage while it's legal to be a cad.

Action Orientation (Eazy), Monday, 14 December 2009 23:38 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe "generally favor" is too far, but really lots of dudes just prefer brunettes or blondes or w/e across the board, and if it's the latter it doesn't occur to me that it has anything to do with "revenge for high school" or something

some dude, Monday, 14 December 2009 23:40 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe the other 246 women who we haven't heard from are an equal mix

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Monday, 14 December 2009 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link

How did you obtain such a precise number?

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Monday, 14 December 2009 23:46 (fourteen years ago) link

The number of Tiger's visits to the free clinic?

smashing aspirant (milo z), Monday, 14 December 2009 23:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I've gotta wonder about skanky women who a) get involved with a married man and b) expect him to 'take care of them' when by being with them he's already proved he's not worth trusting to take care of a damned thing.

I just find it weird that they all seemed shocked to find out that Tiger other mistresses.

ô_o (Nicole), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 00:57 (fourteen years ago) link

this story has me thinking once again that the prizes women win for being beautiful and/or hot range from being not that great to downright dismal.

estela, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link

to be fair, i imagine for many / any with sense / careers to watch out for are probably keeping quiet about it -- the ones who have been revealed thus far might not exactly be a perfect sampling

unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link

estela otm
i don't really wonder about them. if they had enough self-worth and good sense to avoid these situations they wouldn't be very good skanks.

harbl, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 01:06 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost LOL Nicole, I especially liked how the shock was served with a steaming side-order of 'righteous indignation' also who was it (a woman) that said 'when a mistress marries her man she creates an opening'.

special vixens unit (suzy), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 01:07 (fourteen years ago) link

i was just thinking about how much work it must have taken to not only be sleeping with all of these women (and how many more?), but also to have made many of them feel like they were "the (other) one". anyway:

http://www.examiner.com/x-32857-Boston-Celebrity-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m12d14-Tiger-Woods-update-Elin-Nordegren-spotted-without-her-wedding-ring-photo

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 01:07 (fourteen years ago) link

harbl otm

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 01:08 (fourteen years ago) link

and ok, there's nothing new or shocking about rich people being pigs. but we don't really hear enough about it, i don't think. every individual case of excess is treated as an individual case of excess, not as a symptom of some fundamental rot in a society that has spent the last several decades transferring more and more of our wealth to a small number of people at the top.

um yes, it's only in the last several decades where wealth is distributed to a small number of people at the top.

get a fucking grip?

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 01:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i think at a certain level of fame, every celebrity is a little closer to howard hughes than they are to a normal, functioning everyday person

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 01:12 (fourteen years ago) link

i was just thinking about how much work it must have taken to not only be sleeping with all of these women (and how many more?), but also to have made many of them feel like they were "the (other) one"

yeah, when someone opines that mongamy is hard work my mind kinda boggles tbh.

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 01:14 (fourteen years ago) link

truly madly deeply quietly secretively

囧 (dyao), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 01:37 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah that to me is kinda crazy -- on some level i can at least understand a guy having a lot of one night stands, or one or two girls on the side, but the sheer impracticality of having a bunch of girlfriends, even casual ones, in addition to a wife is insane.

some dude, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 01:53 (fourteen years ago) link

honestly in order to pull that off he'd have to spend every waking minute in which he wasn't playing golf on juggling all of them, and this is only accounting for the ones we know about.

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 01:58 (fourteen years ago) link

tbf if theres one dude who can do the impossible

unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 01:59 (fourteen years ago) link

juggling them on the end of his golf club

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 02:30 (fourteen years ago) link

<a href="http://static.lifeandstylemag.com/2009/12/951-tiger.html";> IS THERE A TIGER WOODS SEX TAPE???</a>

Like we really want to know.

US EEL (u s steel), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 02:33 (fourteen years ago) link

http://static.lifeandstylemag.com/2009/12/951-tiger.html

US EEL (u s steel), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 02:33 (fourteen years ago) link

The obligatory sex tape is just par for the course nowadays.

Lord Byron Bay of Pigs (SeekAltRoute), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 03:42 (fourteen years ago) link

I would have thought it would have surfaced by now. If his texts are anything to go by his phone sex isn't going to be hugely exciting.

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 09:41 (fourteen years ago) link

"And we're on the green in one"

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 09:41 (fourteen years ago) link

"Six inch putt"

Did we not do this upthread already?

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 09:43 (fourteen years ago) link

"I'll show you the size of my tee"

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 09:44 (fourteen years ago) link

"According to the report, Ladiser drank two drink glasses of Jack Daniel's after he arrived at the Golf Club at Redmond Ridge and continued to drink heavily as he played in a foursome that included Michael Pattison, government-affairs manager for the Master Builders."

did Michael Pattison get fired too?

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 10:11 (fourteen years ago) link

First of, these women are not ugly. I mean, wtf, what are your standards? A bit too high maybe. They are also girls he picked up at bars (and the media is going to only portray them as party girls of course). On top of that I find it wrong to connect this philandering with his money. Fuck, I know plenty of "poor" guys who fuck around like him.

I think his people should have gone with the (semi) reality. Instead of going for a cleancut image, they should have made him like this sex god. semi-lol

As bad as he is for playing out, I've gotta wonder about skanky women who a) get involved with a married man and b) expect him to 'take care of them' when by being with them he's already proved he's not worth trusting to take care of a damned thing.

Skanky? How do you come to that conclusion? They were wrong to jump in bed with him. But maybe some of them were just plain naive. On top of that, maybe they didn't know he was married. I was only vaguely aware of his wife.

I think it's wrong to assume that if you fuck outside of your marriage, this implies you are a cheat all the way. Friend of course cheated on his wife. He ultimately divorced his wife and married the other. THey are still married after all these years (plus two decades btw). Another friend of ours same thing.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 12:18 (fourteen years ago) link

No, but in Wilde's words, "Once may be regarded as an accident, seven looks like..."

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 12:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I think his people should have gone with the (semi) reality

don't think that'd look great in the photos..

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 12:25 (fourteen years ago) link

On top of that I find it wrong to connect this philandering with his money.

You're not serious?

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 12:32 (fourteen years ago) link

"What first attracted you to the billionaire Tiger Woods?"

blue_eyes chrono_trigger dirty engineer glasses (onimo), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 12:38 (fourteen years ago) link

it's his personality

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 12:38 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost "well my girlfriends are always telling me that he's very talented..."

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 12:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Balding golf geeks are renowned for their success with women

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 12:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Nath, Tiger Woods' marriage and family life has been relentlessly placed in our media. I don't know how anyone interested enough to meet him could fail to note he was married, with kids - you'd have to be the kind of person who didn't give a shit about another woman to proceed in any case, and I just have a problem with women like that (and no problem laughing at them when they get hypocritically upset about their arrangement not being exclusive).

BTW I know of quite a few celebrities who seem to have open relationships their wives don't know about, and the lack of self-respect in the women involved is staggering - quite happy to sneak around, quite happy to be blanked in public, quite happy to use the servant's/tradesman's entrance (NO KEN) and generally quite happy to accept third-class treatment for what probably isn't even first-class sex. Oh, to be a Happy Hookup.

special vixens unit (suzy), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 12:57 (fourteen years ago) link

On top of that I find it wrong to connect this philandering with his money.

You're not serious?

I am. Some are connecting the fact he has money to his addiction to sex. I am convinced that without the money, he probably would have fucked around just as much. It is a factor of course, no question about it, but I am sure it isn't as important as people like to think it is.

Nath, Tiger Woods' marriage and family life has been relentlessly placed in our media.

Suzy, you are in and interested in the media, you are wrong to assume that all people are aware o f his marriage. He picked up these women in bars, restaurants,... They didn't really seek him out, it's more the other way around, he approached them. That's the impression I have anyway.

I agree with you about women who are aware. It's just wrong. But I do not want to see all of his conquests like that.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Uh nathalie, his wedding was like national news, and I don't even WATCH the news. They knew. For sure.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Also I think you're ignoring the fact that these women were probably handpicked to be sexually available -- or, equally, they self-selected by placing themselves among a group of women who made themselves available to men with enough money/power. These were not chance encounters where someone might not be up-to-date with a strangers personal life, their meetings were manufactured for the express purpose of meeting every desire of a rich celebrity.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Some are connecting the fact he has money to his addiction to sex.

Funny how it's invariably rich people who are described as "addicted to sex". I'm connecting the fact that he has money to the fact that he persuaded so many blonde airheads to sleep with him, I really don't see him having similar success if he was a penniless balding golf geek

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link

... a penniless balding golf geek with neither charisma or charm, to boot

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Let's not forget that he's rich because he is very talented and hence (was) hugely celebrated for that. I'm sure his fame is as attractive to these women as is his money.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Of course

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

define "success" I guess - the girls probably would have just been less attractive

k3vin k., Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe those women wear addias, rather than nike, and so don't know who tiger woods is.

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link

pretty sure 90%+ dudes are addicted to sex

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm tiger woods in that respect, yes

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Let's not go all Spartacus, now, shall we?

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Funny how it's invariably rich people who are described as "addicted to sex". I'm connecting the fact that he has money to the fact that he persuaded so many blonde airheads to sleep with him, I really don't see him having similar success if he was a penniless balding golf geek

I'll return the question: are you serious? You seriously think only rich people get plenty of sex?
I'm not saying money didn't play a factor, I'm saying it is not as big as people like to think it is. It's not the factor. I mean, now they gain something but were they financially rewarded fucking him? (I think money is a bigger factor for, say, the wife.) Fame however was probably a bigger factor.

Laurel, I agree, you're right about them being sexually available. Reluctantly. I say reluctantly for various reasons. (One of which is: reading guys commenting it's their fault. Shoving the blame on the woman yet again.)

Nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link

UH

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link

he was a penniless balding golf geek

Let's also count the fact he's quite good looking.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link

You seriously think only rich people get plenty of sex?

I didn't say that, did I? Fame and money is interchangeable in this case. Is he good looking?

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link

The mainstream media is ignoring this too, you're not alone, but the reality is that someone sourced those women, like a product (which they basically were) to be offered to someone with enough money to encompass paying someone else to organize his social & sexual life. Both parties are implicated, the purchaser and the purchasee.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

i have to admit i haven't been reading the details of this because hey, i don't give a shit, but "their meetings were manufactured"? is that really true?? i mean, i knew motley crue would point out front-row gals for their roadies to give backstage passes to but i didn't realize it worked like that on the 18th green, or at sizzler or whatever

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

yes--read about the first one that we learned about--she was probably getting paid thousands/month to set tiger up with ladies when he traveled

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link

it's like this whole thred had some sort of crisis where it suddenly realized what's happening in the last 2 hrs...

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Tracer, I know it's a minority voice in this discussion but this article rang v true to me, maybe it's just my willingness to believe bad things about the rich/athletes/dicks, but...they're still dicks?

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link

ha i was just tryna post that deadspin one

should i lol or ;_; (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah that article is a lot of what i was thinking of

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

she was probably getting paid thousands/month to set tiger up with ladies when he traveled

:-(

I think I prefer to remain naive (and obv wrong).

Nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

these women definitely knew tiger woods was married. i'm sure he told them multiple times to only call at certain times because his wife was around or something along those lines (he told one of them this via text iirc), though i'm sure he used the 'wife' excuse when he was set to meet one of the other women he'd been sleeping with.

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link

and i think rich folks have access to sex a lot easier for reasons that wealth is attractive to people, the rich folks can pay for sex with attractive people without having to worry about going broke, or barring a direct pay-to-play situation they can cover the expenses of the people they're sleeping with or give them gifts, etc. tiger woods, if poor, wouldn't have had access to this world and might have never gone that route and don't underestimate the power of the fact that he's one of the world's most famous athletes. and he's not just rich, he's a *billionaire*.

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link

It is true that if he could still be sleeping with a lot of women if he was poor/not famous, he'd just have to work a whole lot harder at it!

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link

True. Very true.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i guess that's the thing. i think a lot of guys would like to sleep with hot women on the side occasionally, but unless you really want to go the super-expensive prostitute route it's not exactly like cheating on the nutrition nazi diet and sneaking out for a pizza.

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link

so, basically we're coming back to tiger's just a basically ordinary (or at the very least not outstandingly strange) dude in terms of his sexual desires, he just got better opportunities?

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

oh he's outstandingly strange, i'm sure his upbringing was just weird enough to make him a little crazy. i'm sure his desires started off in a normal place but constant access to this lifestyle fucked him up even more and made him even more compulsive (which maybe would happen to most of us? hard to tell.)

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link

which maybe would happen to most of us?

ie not outstandingly strange, really.

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link

how many people has he slept with anyway? (estimate?)

i mean has he got crazy sexual desire then?

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link

has he ever floated

mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

is floating like dogging?

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Only if you're doing it wrong.

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link

All you gotta be is rich enough for bottle service. I do think "sex addict" and rehab (Dr. Drew?) is his best option.

Action Orientation (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

ie not outstandingly strange, really.

― stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac)

yes, it is

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

"I don't practice as much as I used to. I don't spend the amount of hours on the golf course, not like I used to" he said.

What else could have he been doing instead?

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Redskins running back Clinton Portis thinks Tiger is some sort of ecumenical figure when it comes to sex, and that a toast is in order:

"He needed to be congratulated. I said the same thing. If he could keep that a secret and ain't nobody came out and told, hey, congratulate him. You know, most of the time there's one or two, and you can't keep that a secret. So if he can balance 14 and keep it a secret, congrats. You know, at least he knows what he wants. He don't discriminate, he's not against people, he don't care what your job, what your background is. He knew what he was after."

Cunga, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link

southeast jerome ftw

mookieproof, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link

hey guys what's the difference between tiger woods and santa claus?

santa stops at three hos

mookieproof, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

santa only comes once a year, hence the big sack etc

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link

santa goes down into people's chimneys and

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.ronartest.com/blog/?p=74

nostragaaaawddamnus (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

You have been the perfect role model for me and my sons for longer than anyone I have known.
With the exception of a few legends.

nostragaaaawddamnus (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link

tru warrior

mookieproof, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

hey yknow you or your sons or whatever can still model yrselves after what you thought tiger was, ppl aren't what they seem shocker zzzzzzz

k3vin k., Wednesday, 16 December 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

more tiger jokes plz!

kingfish, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link

what goes rawr rawr

super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link

a tiger :3

super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link

hey yknow you or your sons or whatever can still model yrselves after what you thought tiger was, ppl aren't what they seem shocker zzzzzzz

― k3vin k., Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:36 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

Special to CNN

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link

just realised that he's spoiled my favourite lame chatup line, so fuck this rich entitled dick imo

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 December 2009 00:58 (fourteen years ago) link

so fuck this rich entitled dick imo

― stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Thursday, December 17, 2009 12:58 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

your favorite pick up line is "fuck this rich entitled dick?"

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 17 December 2009 02:25 (fourteen years ago) link

belee dat

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 December 2009 10:02 (fourteen years ago) link

hey good it looks like she's gonna divorce him

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/tiger-woods-athlete-decade-divorcee/story?id=9357960

landycakes (jergins), Thursday, 17 December 2009 14:38 (fourteen years ago) link

somewhere right now there is a very happy divorce lawyer.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 December 2009 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link

It could never have ended any other way, could it? I mean, she's a stunning-looking 29 year old, why would she have to put up with 11+ mistresses including a couple of porn stars?

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 17 December 2009 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link

honestly him never wearing a rubber is probably far worse & scarier to her than the actual number of affairs

The Plieslight Saga: New Goon (some dude), Thursday, 17 December 2009 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

stunning rich 29 year old

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 December 2009 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

honestly him never wearing a rubber is

---making him a total fucking cock. Fuck him.

The reverse TARDIS of pasta (Niles Caulder), Thursday, 17 December 2009 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link

In a bad way, I mean.

The reverse TARDIS of pasta (Niles Caulder), Thursday, 17 December 2009 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, she's a stunning-looking 29 year old, why would she have to put up with 11+ mistresses including a couple of porn stars?

Have you seen his bank balance?

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 December 2009 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, seeing that he hasn't stopped contact with one woman (the first to appear in the media), it's not surprising she wants a divorce. Pretty sad (for the kids).

honestly him never wearing a rubber is probably far worse & scarier to her than the actual number of affairs

THIS.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 17 December 2009 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link

hmmph not a fan of 'divorcing a jerk being sad for the kids'

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 December 2009 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link

He'd be a terrible father anyway

The reverse TARDIS of pasta (Niles Caulder), Thursday, 17 December 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link

he'll still be a father, he just won't be a dick husband, which is much healthier for his relationship with the kids.

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 December 2009 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Have you seen his bank balance?

No doubt she'll be taking a healthy portion of it back to her Swedish island.

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 17 December 2009 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I hope so

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:09 (fourteen years ago) link

what would be a decent interval before i started calling her i wonder

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link

would she be deported back to sweden when she gets a divorce?

xxpost

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link

gorgeous rich women can live anywhere they want.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I have a deluxe accomadation going right here... IN MY PANTS, etc

The reverse TARDIS of pasta (Niles Caulder), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link

real tiger woods line, right there

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, she's a stunning-looking 29 year old, why would she have to put up with 11+ mistresses including a couple of porn stars?

Have you seen his bank balance?

this guy is obviously the scummiest of scum, but I don't think the above can be stressed enough. no one is absolved in this here mess. fuck all these people imo.

you want a war on christmas i'll give you a fuckin war on christmas (will), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:34 (fourteen years ago) link

i still don't see who the victims are so far in this whole story. sounds like everybody is having a jolly good time.

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.techchee.com/img/merry-xmas-241207.jpg

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link

(aside from nike and gilette, i suppose?)

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link

i imagine the kids are wishing (or will someday wish) this wasn't the way things are going down.

xxposts

you want a war on christmas i'll give you a fuckin war on christmas (will), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link

The thing abt Ken C is, he's an idiot

The reverse TARDIS of pasta (Niles Caulder), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link

you're an idiot

it's sad for the kids sure but at least they're not starving and probably have many more people looking after them than many children in whichever country with two married parents.

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link

(aside from nike and gilette, i suppose?)

for a second there, I assumed that these were the names of his kids

I regret choosing this bland user name (peter in montreal), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link

haha

johnny crunch, Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link

:D

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link

it's sad for the kids sure but at least they're not starving and probably have many more people looking after them than many children in whichever country with two married parents.

"hey the kids aren't starving, but their Dad's a fucking mess, and hey they got lots of money and people to watch them, so who gives a shit!"

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link

would like to see more thoughts spent on the starving ones.

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

There won't be snow in Africa this Christmas. The greatest gift they'll get this year is life.

ô_o (Nicole), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Where nothing ever grows. No rain nor rivers flow.

ô_o (Nicole), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

do they even know it's christmas?

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

At all?

ô_o (Nicole), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link

hey the kids aren't starving, but their Dad's a fucking mess, and hey they got lots of money and people to watch them, so who gives a shit!"

i dunno- if a 17 yr old celeb kid came out with this sob story in an interview i'd probably want the whinging fuck shot.

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 December 2009 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

you're an idiot

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 17 December 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

fuck you my parents split up once i seen hard times maaan

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 December 2009 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

That's not how that RATM song goes.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 December 2009 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Yep, it doesn't matter if your family is shot to shit so long as you have lots of money and attention. Just ask Lindsay Lohan or the Hilton sisters.

james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 17 December 2009 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

They are idiots

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 December 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

yall are pretty harsh

max, Thursday, 17 December 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

no they actually are idiots in fairness to tom

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 December 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm an idiot

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 December 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

how many mistresses do you have?

velko, Thursday, 17 December 2009 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Getting the kids out of the public eye is probably about 284595% more helpful in keeping them sane/normal than it is for their parents to stay "together", whatever that even means at this point. Divorce away, move to Sweden, bring them up somewhere not accessible to US entertainment media, PLEASE.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 17 December 2009 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

hmmph not a fan of 'divorcing a jerk being sad for the kids'

I said it was sad for the kids. And it is.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 17 December 2009 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Their mother staying with a dad that runs on the P-niss 1.0 operating system would be a much worse alternative.

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 December 2009 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link

after smoking up with the ghost of ziggy marley, tiger is visited by the ho's of christmas past, present and future. ("must be that ambien i took," he keeps saying.) at the end, tiny tim lives -- with his mother elin on big honking estate somewhere. and when the big check comes in the mail every month, he shouts out god bless us everyone.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 December 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link

a dad that runs on the P-niss 1.0 operating system

at least seems as though it isn't micro soft.

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 17 December 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

ummmm

http://mtblog.golfdigest.com/magazine/blogs/editors/gd201001_cover.jpg

ON STANDS NOW^^

jealous ones sb (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 17 December 2009 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link

tip #1 - avoid skanks. you prob should've learned this from Bubba, but just in case...

you want a war on christmas i'll give you a fuckin war on christmas (will), Thursday, 17 December 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

ridic

Do you love me now? (surm), Thursday, 17 December 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link

is tip #1 therefore aimed at Obama?

cuz I hear dude's a 16 handicap.

what kind of present your naked body (Upt0eleven), Thursday, 17 December 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

rick reilly, bill simmons, et all gonna be saying "she should have given him another chance"

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Thursday, 17 December 2009 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link

i serious hate rick reilly soooo much

jealous ones sb (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 17 December 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

i hope she takes him for half of his billion. btw i heard that puma was trying to sign her to a contract to be a sponsor, like as a fuck you to nike?

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Thursday, 17 December 2009 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link

runnin from your man? puma that motherfucker.

standing on the verge of getting it rong (m bison), Thursday, 17 December 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I said it was sad for the kids. And it is.

― Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:42 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Their mother staying with a dad that runs on the P-niss 1.0 operating system would be a much worse alternative.

― stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:48 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^ both posts correct.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 17 December 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

darraghmac, of course it is, but it doesn't make my point untrue. although, what if he changed his ways? (not that i think he will be able to;, but you never know.)

Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 17 December 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

I just think that getting away from the guy is the obvious and right thing to do- he didn't trip and land in a nightclub hostess, he's been screwing all before him for years.

The kids are young, they'll still have a dad, they'll still have a mom, they'll still be incredibly privileged, and they won't grow up with their parents living together, hating each other, and everyone knowing it.

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Friday, 18 December 2009 09:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh I know. And you are right. I just find it extremely sad and ironic TW has done so much philandering given the fact he was devastated his dad did it.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 18 December 2009 10:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't know that it is ironic -- I think a lot of children are influenced by watching what their parents do, either consciously or subconsciously.

ô_o (Nicole), Friday, 18 December 2009 13:47 (fourteen years ago) link

"engaging (if somewhat facile) story",

Thought I was browsing this thread, but it was the Avatar one.

The Hood Won't Jump (Eazy), Friday, 18 December 2009 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link

WSJ on Tiger and the Men's Fitness/Enquirer Story.

The Hood Won't Jump (Eazy), Friday, 18 December 2009 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

{this woman was} promised an undisclosed sum in return for telling her story exclusively to News of the World, a London-based tabloid owned by News Corp., which also owns The Wall Street Journal.

media synergies alert!

nostragaaaawddamnus (Hunt3r), Friday, 18 December 2009 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Bill Plaschke bringing more LOLs.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-plaschke16-2009dec16,0,2923714.column

He's got to be the worst writer.

Ever.

That's what I think.

When I think about Bill Plaschke.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 19 December 2009 00:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Two years ago, after following Tiger Woods down the fairway for a couple of days at the U.S Open at Oakmont, I confided to friends an observation that seemed too absurd for public consumption.

From the back, the dude looked like Barry Bonds.

His neck was oddly wide. His shoulders were absurdly broad. His biceps were busting out of a tight shirt.

For the first time, he wasn't just better than everyone else, he was also bigger. He looked not like a technician lining up a tee shot, but a slugger getting loose for batting practice.

He looked weird. He looked stuffed. He looked dirty.

I confided it, but never wrote it, because who would believe it?

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Saturday, 19 December 2009 00:18 (fourteen years ago) link

But over time, I had to do something about it. One weekend, I had the chance.

My wife was out of town.

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Saturday, 19 December 2009 00:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Two years ago, after following Tiger Woods into the bathroom, I confided to friends an observation that seemed too absurd for public consumption.

From the below the waist, the dude looked like John Holmes.

His cock was oddly long. It was also absurdly broad. His balls were busting out of pants.

For the first time, he wasn't just better than everyone else, he was also bigger. He looked not like a technician lining up a tee shot, but a slugger getting loose for batting practice.

He looked weird. He looked stuffed. He looked dirty.

I confided it, but never wrote it, because who would believe it?

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 19 December 2009 00:21 (fourteen years ago) link

lolllllll

super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 19 December 2009 00:27 (fourteen years ago) link

"whaddya mean tiger woods looks like barry bonds?"

"oh i just, you know...(tugs at collar)....his neck is wide. those shoulders are really broad. those biceps."

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Saturday, 19 December 2009 00:31 (fourteen years ago) link

omar is the king of this shit

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 19 December 2009 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link

i know sexy

krampus activities (latebloomer), Saturday, 19 December 2009 01:05 (fourteen years ago) link

AT&T drops sponsorship of Woods, too.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 31 December 2009 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link

needs nipple rings

smashing aspirant (milo z), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Raw!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Hattiesburg! If ever there was an incentive to want to "recover" from whatever ails him.

wanna be shartin' somethin' (WmC), Friday, 15 January 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

A question: Would he have donated $3 million prior to his need to rehab his image? Does it matter?

Clerk all KNOWIN (B.L.A.M.), Friday, 15 January 2010 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Tiger Woods will be speaking to a small group of friends, colleagues and close associates at 11:00 a.m. EST on Friday at the TPC Sawgrass Clubhouse in Ponte Vedra Beach, Fla. Tiger plans to discuss his past and his future, and he plans to apologize for his behavior.

While Tiger feels that what happened is fundamentally a matter between him and his wife, he also recognizes that he has hurt and let down a lot of other people who were close to him. He also let down his fans. He wants to begin the process of making amends, and that's what he's going to discuss.

His remarks will be open to a press pool for live coverage. It is NOT a news conference

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

While Tiger feels that what happened is fundamentally a matter between him and his wife,

a couple of Playboy models, two pornstars, twelve club girls, a couple dozen hookers and possibly a midget.

FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

going on now

blow it out your bad-taste hole (WmC), Friday, 19 February 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

what, even with the midget?

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Friday, 19 February 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

this is all so very stupid. let a ho be a ho. i feel bad for is kids and all (and to a lesser degree his wife), but screw all this rehab and apologizing to golf bs. respect your family and yourself, dude. get a divorce, see your kids as much as possible, and try not to catch teh herps.

king willie style (will), Friday, 19 February 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link

his kids

king willie style (will), Friday, 19 February 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link

get a divorce, see your kids as much as possible, and try not to catch teh herps.

Seriously.

ô_o (Nicole), Friday, 19 February 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link

gotta say, that was the most non-blame-shifting apology I've ever seen from a pro athlete. also, I liked the "I need to get back to my Buddhist faith" and not "my Christian faith".

blow it out your bad-taste hole (WmC), Friday, 19 February 2010 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

haha yeah, waiting on all the wingnut commentary on that one

king willie style (will), Friday, 19 February 2010 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Full video here: http://www.cnn.com

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 19 February 2010 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i thought he did pretty well.

kinda robotic but i sorta get the vibe he is just kinda dull and uncomfortable with public speaking in general....

but yeah the text didn't really duck anything i thought.

El GarBage (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 19 February 2010 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I was at the gym this morning and was furious to see this fool walk out after the ABC NEWS SPECIAL REPORT banner popped up like some serious shit went down.

mayor jingleberries, Friday, 19 February 2010 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link

My dad got misty at this, which kind of blows my mind.

slapped by a bear (HI DERE), Friday, 19 February 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Tiger Woods will be speaking to a small group of friends, colleagues and close associates

No one find this a really odd set up? That small group of close associates and family, and tv companies broadcasting it all? That's some really weird PR.

Also, don't think his 'friends at Accenture' (or indeed fellow pros) were too pleased at him scheduling this during the WGC Match Play.

'virgin' should be 'wizard' (GamalielRatsey), Friday, 19 February 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link

listening to this is kind of wow btw

slapped by a bear (HI DERE), Friday, 19 February 2010 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

like this is the most self-aware "my bad" press conference ever

slapped by a bear (HI DERE), Friday, 19 February 2010 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I just got to the "this is because I stopped being a Buddhist" section and holy shit

slapped by a bear (HI DERE), Friday, 19 February 2010 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Tiger Woods
Tightly Controlled Televised Statement
[CNN; 2010]
9.0 - Best New Apology

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 19 February 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link

I didn't and don't want to give this guy more credit than he's due but I think Dan's hearing what I was hearing. Actual contrition, what a concept. It's worth hearing instead of just reading a transcript.

blow it out your bad-taste hole (WmC), Friday, 19 February 2010 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't know if I was more impressed with "going back to Buddhism will make me a better person" or "despite this, my family is still off limits, assholes"

slapped by a bear (HI DERE), Friday, 19 February 2010 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link

in the office we were wondering if he chose today to apologize because all the late night shows + nbc are on hiatus right now (except ferguson and kimmel)

max, Friday, 19 February 2010 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

think it was cuz hes due back in rehab tomorrow iirc. plus yea, think accenture dropped him & he may want 2 stick it 2 them and steal attn from their tourney (tho i dont really buy that)

johnny crunch, Friday, 19 February 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

XP - and Ferguson doesn't tape a show on Fridays

FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Friday, 19 February 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

why is it that when celebs get contrite and talk about finding god or whatever i'm like "you're so full of shit" but when Tiger talks about going back to Buddhism i'm all like awww

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 19 February 2010 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link

'Cause it will make Britt Hume squirm?

Qui vous promet des lendemains qui chantent? (Michael White), Friday, 19 February 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

cuz buddhism is a less full of shit religion than christianity?

J0rdan S., Friday, 19 February 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

cuz we are conditioned to believe Buddhism is a less full of shit religion than Christianity, even though it's not

FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Friday, 19 February 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

so i'm the only one not really feeling this?

call all destroyer, Friday, 19 February 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Less that I'm not feeling it than not giving a shit.

FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Friday, 19 February 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

there is no salvation outside of scientology

i know who the sockpuppet master of ilx is (velko), Friday, 19 February 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh look! A flying pig!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 19 February 2010 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

'Cause it will make Britt Hume squirm?

^^pretty much this

king willie style (will), Friday, 19 February 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

but yeah, otherwise keep all this shit to yourself. you're still richer than balls, with or without Accenture. and you still slay on the golf course. you're just not really cut out for marriage imho.

king willie style (will), Friday, 19 February 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

cuz we are conditioned to believe Buddhism is a less full of shit religion than Christianity, even though it's not

― FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Friday, February 19, 2010 1:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^this. i <3 buddhism but one of the best books on it i've read thus far (Zen At War) basically puts the lie to the idea that it is somehow less full of shit than any other spiritual practice

nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Friday, 19 February 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

i dunno... the japanese context/syncretism with warrior nobility is pretty unique and not really enough to make the case imo. still may or may not be true, but Buddhism does seem fundamentally less well-suited to command/control/holy war.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 19 February 2010 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link

lol between this and the other thread not to be named i'm convinced a bunch of dumb jocks took over all of your bodies...people other than retarded sportwriters bought this BS?

vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 February 2010 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link

this was one of the worst press conferences i've ever seen

J0rdan S., Saturday, 20 February 2010 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link

it's like he's NEVER spoke in public before

J0rdan S., Saturday, 20 February 2010 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i kinda buy the "he's not a great public speaker" argument but this was so painful to watch, idk if it was "insincere" as much as it was just so clueless..."self aware" nowhere near the money

ha xp

vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 February 2010 06:11 (fourteen years ago) link

in tiger's defense, he was scoping out some chicks in the room at the time.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 20 February 2010 06:12 (fourteen years ago) link

i was just astounded by how tone deaf & stoic this was, i really thought he had something better in him

simmons comparing him to r2d2 or something was otm

J0rdan S., Saturday, 20 February 2010 06:12 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean even as a proud DUMB JOCK wtf guys

vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 February 2010 06:13 (fourteen years ago) link

vvvv excited to read reilly's take on this

vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 February 2010 06:13 (fourteen years ago) link

i didn't see it except for snippets, but a friend of mine said it was like a hostage video.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 20 February 2010 06:14 (fourteen years ago) link

hahahaha otm -- in a way he kind of has been taken hostage

J0rdan S., Saturday, 20 February 2010 06:14 (fourteen years ago) link

i really think mcgwire had the best game plan for this kind of thing -- put out a prelim press release where you lay out the facts so you don't have people reading into your emotion and stuff like that & then do a one on one w/ a journalist you trust, who will push you a bit but won't impale you

J0rdan S., Saturday, 20 February 2010 06:16 (fourteen years ago) link

seriously! i mean if he just sent out an open letter of the transcript to this it would have been 100x better...still would be completely devoid of humanity but it would be way harder to tell at the very least

vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 February 2010 06:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Dave Zirin on Tiger's corporate villainy (the kind that matters):

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-zirin/tiger-woods-deserves-your_b_374029.html

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 February 2010 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link

seriously! i mean if he just sent out an open letter of the transcript to this it would have been 100x better

if he just apologized privately to his wife and anyone else he personally knows who's been hurt by his actions, that would be 100X better. tiger woods doesn't owe "the public" an apology. he's said as much (in a nicer way) when this story began to surface, and i imagine that's why he sounded so stilted and awkward at this ridiculous press conference.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 20 February 2010 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i agree with that 100% but that would never happen

vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 February 2010 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link

TW was apologizing to consumers of his brand.

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 February 2010 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

zirin more recently:
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion/531946/tiger_woods_rehabbing_his_brand

vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 February 2010 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

zirin is great btw

vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 February 2010 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

"I haven't seen anything this painfully scripted since the Phantom Menace."

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 February 2010 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link

the Jack Johnson connection is tot on point.

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 February 2010 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

if he just apologized privately to his wife and anyone else he personally knows who's been hurt by his actions, that would be 100X better. tiger woods doesn't owe "the public" an apology. he's said as much (in a nicer way) when this story began to surface, and i imagine that's why he sounded so stilted and awkward at this ridiculous press conference.

Dead on. Yesterday was a charade, but the more I think about it, it was less Tiger's charade than the PGA's. The orchestration that's unfolding is a gradual "We accept your apology, welcome back" on behalf of the PGA. Notice how quickly the comissioner was trotted out for sympathetic comment. With baseball, it's impossible for one player to be larger than the game, so Bonds and Clemens and the rest are basically left by the league to tend to their own damage control--they're cut loose as quickly as possible. The PGA can't do that; it's dying right now. I honestly believe that, either actively or tacitly, yesterday was the PGA's dog-and-pony show.

clemenza, Saturday, 20 February 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

But both sides don't get the central dynamic of today's Seinfeld-like press conference (it was about nothing). This is about brand rehabilitation for the first billion dollar athlete.

really??? both sides don't get that? what the fuck is this guy talking about?

call all destroyer, Saturday, 20 February 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link

btw i really dont think this story has been racialized to the extent he claims either.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 20 February 2010 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link

tbf cad his point wasn't that the story had been "racialized", just that the public takes more of an interest in black male sexuality. i don't always agree with everything he says but he's a great sportswriter - it's a field that could use more commies tbh

vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 February 2010 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

On the surface I don't find Woods particularly more "tainted" than Michael "Republicans Buy Sneakers Too" Jordan.

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 February 2010 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link

i would think the public takes in interest in the sexuality of the most famous athlete in the world no matter what race they are.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 20 February 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean to suggest that this is a bigger deal because he is black is o_O imo and i'm just not seeing the evidence for it

call all destroyer, Saturday, 20 February 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah if he can limit these embarrassing pr things i think he'll be on much the same track - two years from now when he's winning 2 majors a year again no one will remember this

xp cad it was a pretty tossed-off point i'm not getting hung up on it

vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 February 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i gotcha, i've read some of this guy's other stuff and i like it but some odd points in this one.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 20 February 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm sure there's some psychology he's alluding to that's very possibly legitimate, it's hard to make that connection w/ an individual case like this tho. would have helped if he named a couple other instances & what they had in common

vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 February 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link

but Tiger was the non-scary/surly nonwhite athlete it was OK for Tea Baggers to like! (cf Bonds, Kobe) And whaddya know, he turns out to have a mammoth libido!

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 21 February 2010 02:00 (fourteen years ago) link

i honestly don't buy the idea that he doesn't owe the public an apology -- the man made hundreds of million dollars off endorsements that he secured -- and "we" paid for -- because he presented himself as a moral stalwart, a consummate role model who was an anecdote to the allen iversons & alex rodriguezes of sports -- and for it to be revealed that he cheated on his wife with likely hundreds of women is a pretty big deal imo, so i do think he owes us something

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 02:30 (fourteen years ago) link

he's an anecdote, alright!

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 21 February 2010 02:31 (fourteen years ago) link

& i think his situation is special not only because he's tiger but because how egregious & insane & uncaring it was -- no one really remembers or cares that kobe was accused of rape & had to admit to being an adulterer, because it's something that happened once and me manned up & faced the music about it -- for tiger to be all LEAVE ME ALONE is fucking bullshit cuz a. he's trying to have his cake and eat it too b. if he would've just addressed shit way earlier, the thing would've blown over already

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 02:32 (fourteen years ago) link

afaik, woods never said "i'm faithful to my wife, unlike your other sports heros, so follow me, not them." his clean image, it seems to me, is more a function of the way golf portrays itself (i can't recall many other golfers in scandelous situations).

as far as bryant, i'm not sure what you mean. he couldn't avoid the issue because he was being prosecuted for rape. he denied it, fought it and moved on. i don't see that as equivalent to voluntarily "manning-up and facing the music."

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 February 2010 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link

btw, even if woods did try to have his cake and eat it too, i'd still say he doesn't owe the public an apology. cheating on your spouse can be an incredibly painful, embarrasing situation for the victim. i don't think it's very fair to woods' wife to insist that he make public apologies for such private failings, because such a forced apology might deepen the pain for, and/or have a damaging impact on, woods' wife and family -- the only people who have a real stake in this situation.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 February 2010 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link

my having spent $10.00 dollars on a woods-endorsed product gives me an infinitesimally tiny stake in the genuineness of woods' clean-living image.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 February 2010 02:46 (fourteen years ago) link

kobe had a press conference where he answered actual questions and showed emotion & stuff -- and of course tiger didn't explicitly say "i'm faithful to my wife, unlike your other sports heros, so follow me, not them," but this is how he portrayed himself & the public had feelings & money invested in him because of the way he allowed himself to be characterized & marketed by people at IMG or by himself or whatever. he was different, he wanted to be different, he always thought he was different and he made a ton of money off of that. when you allow the public to think of you that way, you better be able to hold up your end of the bargain, because you are not some innocent bystander who is along for the ride.

& anyway, his income comes from the public, whether directly or not. people paid to see him golf, they paid to buy the things that he endorsed. the public made him a billionaire, plain and simple. and when it is revealed that he did what he did, i think the least he can do is answer some fucking questions and not barricade himself behind a prepared statement.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 02:47 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't think it's very fair to woods' wife to insist that he make public apologies for such private failings, because such a forced apology might deepen the pain for, and/or have a damaging impact on, woods' wife and family -- the only people who have a real stake in this situation.

― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, February 20, 2010 8:44 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

uh i'm sorry but if you marry tiger fucking woods when he is one of the most famous humans on the planet, this is what comes with the territory. your life is no longer private. this is what you chose by marrying the man. i have little sympathy for this.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link

if he didn't want intrusion in his life by the public he should've been like barry sanders or some shit and taken the earnings from his sport & kept a low profile & not cheated on his wife with prostitutes and porn stars

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 02:50 (fourteen years ago) link

i sorta do and don't agree with you. yes, he made a huge amount of money out of his status as a modern version of the all-american icon, but this status was not really one he created for himself, rather imposed upon him. apart from by being good looking, non-white and exceptionally good at golf, all he did was accept this imposition for the cash rewards it brought. Tiger Woods as flawless icon was always a fantasy that you/we bought into; to anyone who is that much of a sucker, maybe he does owe you an apology for shattering the myth in such a spectacular way but maybe it should just be a lesson to stop believing the bullshit that these pr companies sell you.

that in itself may be bullshit. i'm quite drunk.

what kind of present your naked body (Upt0eleven), Sunday, 21 February 2010 02:50 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't think i have any vested interest whatsoever in anyone simply because i'm persuaded to buy a product because they endorse it. i think that expectation is unreasonable. and it can have damaging consequences for the real stakeholders. say woods' wife told him that she's incredibly angry but still sorting out her feelings, and for the sake of her and their children, she asked woods to not make public statements about the situation. you think that woods should go make a public apology anyway because he's made money endorsing products based on his "clean" image?

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 February 2010 02:51 (fourteen years ago) link

also maybe she married him because she loved him, and would have done so if he wasn't a superstar. you think she forfeits all the normal privacies of married life because she had the misfortune to fall in love with a famous athelete?

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 February 2010 02:52 (fourteen years ago) link

there have been plenty of very rich & very successful sports stars who don't end up in tiger's position -- it's not that hard, i really have no sympathy for him in this situation -- it's not like his kid has cancer and the paparazzi is repelling down hospital buildings to get a photo of the kid on his deathbed

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 02:52 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm reserving most of my sympathies for his wife and family. nevertheless, i do not see the connection between his income, my having contributed a tiny percentage toward it, and him owing me -- or the "public" -- some sort of duty. president nixon and bush owed the public an apology, tiger woods doesn't.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 February 2010 02:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I've followed Tiger fairly closely since he won his first Masters--he single-handedly rekindled my interest in golf for the first time since the mid-70s--and the idea that he was a moral stalwart has never had a thing to do with it. (The fact that he was black--the sheer anomaly of a black player dominating the whitest of all sports--absolutely, that initially had a lot to do with it.) Tiger the moral stalwart was a fabrication of his sponsors; he didn't discourage it, and he took them for every penny he could get out said image, but, unless I missed something, I just don't recall him pandering to it (hence the frequent flashes of Tommy Bolt-like temper on the course; he never pretended to be Steve Garvey). (Even though it turns out he is Steve Garvey...I digress.) Any adult who feels terribly let down because he's been out there fucking anything that moves, I just don't get it.

clemenza, Sunday, 21 February 2010 02:55 (fourteen years ago) link

for one, by answering questions from the press -- which btw if there was a question that totally crossed the line in his mind he could've said "i'm not answering that or no comment" -- i don't see how he's protecting his wife or his children. maybe, you know, he shouldn't have cheated on his wife with 30 women, if he was worried about his wife & his kids.

& as far as elin yes, i think there are many privacies you forfeit when you marry someone of his stature, and these things are quite clear.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 02:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Any adult beyond those who know him personally, I should say, his wife above all else, obviously.

clemenza, Sunday, 21 February 2010 02:58 (fourteen years ago) link

& you know, they're trying to play the public for fools. i feel bad for her because of what he did, but by the same token, it's disrespectful & insulting for them to say, for instance, that elin was trying to valiantly save tiger from death by bashing out the windows of his car with a golf club. no one believes that shit, and i think it would go a long way to getting people to back off -- which is what they so desperately crave -- if they, idk, just admitted to the shit that people already know happened anyway.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 02:58 (fourteen years ago) link

i disagree completely (tho i understand and respect your view). i think we've not likely to make much headway beyond this point.

i hate golf as a sport. not enough violence.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 February 2010 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link

america is a sympathetic country & it's one that loves its redemptive stories, but no one likes to be explicitly lied to, which is what they're doing

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 03:00 (fourteen years ago) link

the whole thing is just... there's such an obvious & simple gameplan when you're a public figure for being able to turn something like this in your favor, and the way that they've handled this has been so spectacularly bad & misjudged that it's fascinating

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 03:03 (fourteen years ago) link

daniel otm & i'd much rather see tiger display contempt for "the public" and the sports media than pander to them

idgi, mon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 21 February 2010 04:44 (fourteen years ago) link

i guess i just don't see how telling the truth is something that is so painful & intrusive & horrible for tiger

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 04:51 (fourteen years ago) link

if he had let the police interview him & then come out a week before the crash and said "the police account of what happened at my house on thanksgiving night is true. elin and i are not perfect, and i am not perfect. i apologize to her and those around the world that i have let down. elin and i will work in private to restore our marriage, and we ask that you respect our privacy moving forward. i will now take questions" and answered questions, the whole thing would've been over with long ago, and i don't think his wife or kids would've been traumatized by the experience of him admitting to known facts in public, i just don't.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 04:54 (fourteen years ago) link

a week after the crash obv

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 04:54 (fourteen years ago) link

& showing contempt for the press & public is some bullshit -- it's only his fault that he's in this situation and the handled it as poorly as he did

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 04:55 (fourteen years ago) link

no one is asking for like a documentary of his sex addiction therapy -- telling the truth to the public isn't some horrible, traumatic thing to have to do

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 04:57 (fourteen years ago) link

i honestly don't buy the idea that he doesn't owe the public an apology -- the man made hundreds of million dollars off endorsements that he secured -- and "we" paid for -- because he presented himself as a moral stalwart, a consummate role model who was an anecdote to the allen iversons & alex rodriguezes of sports -- and for it to be revealed that he cheated on his wife with likely hundreds of women is a pretty big deal imo, so i do think he owes us something

― J0rdan S., Saturday, February 20, 2010 8:30 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

such bullshit

nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Sunday, 21 February 2010 04:59 (fourteen years ago) link

telling the truth to the public isn't some horrible, traumatic thing to have to do

no? it isn't? plz elaborate

nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:01 (fourteen years ago) link

if he had let the police interview him & then come out a week after the crash and said "the police account of what happened at my house on thanksgiving night is true. elin and i are not perfect, and i am not perfect. i apologize to her and those around the world that i have let down. elin and i will work in private to restore our marriage, and we ask that you respect our privacy moving forward. i will now take questions" and answered questions, the whole thing would've been over with long ago, and i don't think his wife or kids would've been traumatized by the experience of him admitting to known facts in public, i just don't.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:01 (fourteen years ago) link

yall are acting like telling some semblance of the truth is climbing mount everest

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:03 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, still don't think he should come out and "have to" do anything just because ppl buy fucking golf clubs and think he's a real swell dude. i mean, i understand that his sponsors or the PGA might want him to do that to save face or w/e, but it's not all a thing that a normal person should have to do.

nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:05 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah I don't buy this 'tiger owes us an apology because his face appears on a soda bottle' argument

__ ― (dyao), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:06 (fourteen years ago) link

i think a simple apology is a very little thing to expect from someone of his stature

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:08 (fourteen years ago) link

jordan wtf is "we ask that you respect our privacy moving forward. i will now take questions"? that's kinda contradictory?

the point is that tiger is his own person, he doesn't have to tell all 8 billion people in the world everything about his life because...it's probably embarassing to him?

idgi, mon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:09 (fourteen years ago) link

& showing contempt for the press & public is some bullshit -- it's only his fault that he's in this situation and the handled it as poorly as he did

― J0rdan S., Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:55 PM (Yesterday)

my point again would be lol @ these people who built him up so high and now are devastated that he is a human being.

idgi, mon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:09 (fourteen years ago) link

the point is that tiger is his own person, he doesn't have to tell all 8 billion people in the world everything about his life because...it's probably embarassing to him?

― idgi, mon (k3vin k.), Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:09 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark

it's one thing to not tell 8 billion people in the world everything about your life, it's another to, as the saying goes, piss on our faces and tell us it's rain

jordan wtf is "we ask that you respect our privacy moving forward. i will now take questions"? that's kinda contradictory?

clearly i mean moving forward from this hypothetical press conference that happened a week after his accident

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i think a simple apology is a very little thing to expect from someone of his stature

― J0rdan S., Sunday, February 21, 2010 12:08 AM (1 minute ago)

he didn't cheat on us! he didn't break any laws! he didn't even cheat in golf! he doesn't owe me an apology

idgi, mon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:11 (fourteen years ago) link

my point again would be lol @ these people who built him up so high and now are devastated that he is a human being.

― idgi, mon (k3vin k.), Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:09 PM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark

yes lol @ people who admire sports figures, what retarded, gullible people

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:12 (fourteen years ago) link

the only persons who should have any leverage on what tiger does are his wife and family. if he should decide to use his massive fortune to build a rocketship to the moon and go and live the rest of his life there, it's his choice imo.

__ ― (dyao), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:12 (fourteen years ago) link

jordan i'm saying "we ask that you respect out privacy...now you may ask questions that invade my privacy" would be a pertty contradictory thing to say

idgi, mon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:12 (fourteen years ago) link

you bought something with a tiger head on it, you got scammed. make more money and move on.

__ ― (dyao), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:13 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean what do you think the "questions" would be like? who he had in the super bowl pool? how his swing was? how he's feeling? no, they would all be about his affair and i'd imagine all of his answers would be something to the effect of "ehh, that's kinda private i'd rather not discuss it"

idgi, mon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:14 (fourteen years ago) link

yes lol @ people who admire sports figures, what retarded, gullible people

― J0rdan S., Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:12 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yes, LOL

srsly if you are holding sports figures to some standard that actually affects YOUR LIFE AND FEELINGS then you are a child

cf politicians, movie stars, etc.

nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:16 (fourteen years ago) link

you know what, the whole taking questions part of the thing is ancillary, because i agree that nothing would have come of it -- i just think it's some coward ass shit to do what he's doing

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:16 (fourteen years ago) link

http://cinephile.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/07-07-swimfan.jpg

__ ― (dyao), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:17 (fourteen years ago) link

afaic tiger woods is a dude who plays golf. if he cheats on his wife, then that sucks, and is his (~their~) problem. i don't need an apology from him.

nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:17 (fourteen years ago) link

srsly if you are holding sports figures to some standard that actually affects YOUR LIFE AND FEELINGS then you are a child

i'm not saying i do, but to pretend that there are people who don't and that tiger woods wasn't complicit in it happening to him is equally as naive

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:17 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't need an apology from him.

― nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:17 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark

because uttering the words "i'm sorry" is such a terrible thing to have to do -- poor billionaire tiger

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:18 (fourteen years ago) link

that may be true but saying that ergo therefore tiger woods has a responsibility to them is where I can't get on the train with you xp

__ ― (dyao), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:19 (fourteen years ago) link

can we at least agree that empirically he played the fuck out of himself and should fire his whole management team?

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:19 (fourteen years ago) link

?

i'm not pretending that there are people that don't. i'm saying that they have severely misplaced priorities, and, moreover, that their priorities shouldn't have any bearing on whether or not the dude has to apologize to THEM and not his wife and family.

like i get that he is a public figure and ought to expect that this garbage is something he should have to deal with, i just don't think it's something he SHOULD have to deal with.

many xps

nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:20 (fourteen years ago) link

btw jordan do u want my dad to give u an apology?

nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:21 (fourteen years ago) link

btw, i would also like to note that i think it's one thing to have "human flaws"... it's a whole different thing to be someone who cheats on his wife with 20 or 30 or however many women -- it's kind of an extreme example of "humanity"

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:22 (fourteen years ago) link

again i'm saying that as someone who played HS golf & plays still, buys/bought a lot of tiger-endorsed merchandise, and rooted for him for the last 14 years or whatever i don't feel like my golf or connsumer experience is now somehow tainted - what is he apologizing for exactly? not being a good role model? cheating on his wife? if he owes me an apology, it's because he's gonna deny me the pleasure of watching him on TV while he goes to celebrity sex rehab. i don't need him to apologize to me because he fucked up in his personal life, that's his family's business. i'll still enjoy watching him play when he comes back.

xp anyway gbx otm

idgi, mon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not even sure what you're arguing any more - what does being an "extreme example of 'humanity'" mean?

__ ― (dyao), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:27 (fourteen years ago) link

philanderer's be philanderin', imo. what does it matter if it's 1 or 30 women?

__ ― (dyao), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:27 (fourteen years ago) link

btw, i would also like to note that i think it's one thing to have "human flaws"... it's a whole different thing to be someone who cheats on his wife with 20 or 30 or however many women -- it's kind of an extreme example of "humanity"

― J0rdan S., Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:22 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

so what

would it please you to have every violent criminal in america go on television and apologize to all their fans for the raping or w/e? we're not talking about pathology at this point, we're talking about fame, and apparently you think that famous people are somehow more accountable for their sins than normal boring a-holes. i disagree.

nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:28 (fourteen years ago) link

or

philanderer's be philanderin', imo. what does it matter if it's 1 or 30 women?

― __ ― (dyao), Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:27 PM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:28 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah so far tiger has shown that he's really good at doing one thing - playing golf - why should that therefore elevate him to be a superior being in other respects?

__ ― (dyao), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:29 (fourteen years ago) link

btw, i would also like to note that i think it's one thing to have "human flaws"... it's a whole different thing to be someone who cheats on his wife with 20 or 30 or however many women -- it's kind of an extreme example of "humanity"

― J0rdan S., Sunday, February 21, 2010 12:22 AM (22 seconds ago)

dude he still hasn't hurt anyone besides his wife. if it turned out he like, killed 30 people, he could apologize for being a danger to society or something. all he did was have sex with people - people do that.

ha xp!

idgi, mon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:29 (fourteen years ago) link

are you gonna get on wilt chamberlain's case for sleeping with 20,000 women?

__ ― (dyao), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i wasn't really arguing anything with that statement -- just noting that his case is an extreme example because most people don't fuck up their family lives to the extent that he has -- again i would point to the example of kobe bryant cheating on his wife with one woman versus tiger cheating on his wife with however many -- it doesn't make a difference to me, just in terms of historical context

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:31 (fourteen years ago) link

what point are you trying to make, exactly, with this kobe and tiger comparison

__ ― (dyao), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:32 (fourteen years ago) link

are you gonna get on wilt chamberlain's case for sleeping with 20,000 women?

― __ ― (dyao), Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:31 PM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark

ha i was wondering if someone was going to bring this up -- i obv don't have a problem with people who are non-monogamous -- there is a reason that wilt chamberlain is pretty much publicly celebrated for this, and it's because he never pretended that he wasn't sleeping with 20,000 women

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:32 (fourteen years ago) link

what point are you trying to make, exactly, with this kobe and tiger comparison

― __ ― (dyao), Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:32 PM (7 seconds ago) Bookmark

that if tiger had only cheated on his wife with one woman that it wouldn't be as big of a deal publicly

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, okay, but it still doesn't prove your claim that tiger has a responsibility to apologize to the public

__ ― (dyao), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:34 (fourteen years ago) link

altho if a friend of mine was cheating on his girlfriend with 20-30 different women, i think i would stop being friends with this person, personally

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:34 (fourteen years ago) link

i thought you were trying to make the point that he owes the world an apology, my b

xp

nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:34 (fourteen years ago) link

anyway jordan when you apologize for something it's because you either did something you weren't supposed to do, or you didn't do something you were. tiger's "responsibility" (this still is a stretch but run with this) to the public is to be a good and entertaining golfer. his responsibility to us was not to not cheat on his wife.

his responsibility to his wife was to be faithful to her and provide for her until they die, that's what the marriage papers say (are there even marriage papers and is that what they say? i'm like 12 fwiw). he reneged on that contract and therefore he should be sorry to his wife.

idgi, mon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:36 (fourteen years ago) link

also not sure if I buy your kobe/tiger comparison cause in kobe's case, it was an accusation of RAPE - i.e. crime according to law - so kobe had more of an onus to clear his name. tiger hasn't done anything wrong, legally, except breaking his marriage vows

__ ― (dyao), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:37 (fourteen years ago) link

i thought you were trying to make the point that he owes the world an apology, my b

xp

― nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:34 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

yeah i think coming out and uttering the words "i'm sorry" is something that someone of his stature should do -- it's pretty painless

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:38 (fourteen years ago) link

no it isn't

nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:38 (fourteen years ago) link

lol I don't even think tiger has a responsibility to be a good and entertaining golfer - he is under no contract with nobody except maybe advertising companies, who can all drop him as soon as they want to. tiger owes nobody nothin, except his family and wife.

__ ― (dyao), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:38 (fourteen years ago) link

and again: "his stature"

srsly dude, he's just a fucking golfer, grow up

nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:39 (fourteen years ago) link

http://amputate.me/dam_puter.gif

idgi, mon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:39 (fourteen years ago) link

kk otm

nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:40 (fourteen years ago) link

srsly dude, he's just a fucking golfer, grow up

― nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:39 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

this is crazy reductive

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:41 (fourteen years ago) link

lol and you saying that tiger is a great golfer therefore he shouldn't find it hard to apologize isn't also all sorts of flawed?

__ ― (dyao), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:41 (fourteen years ago) link

jasper parnevik is just a golfer -- tiger woods is not just a golfer

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:42 (fourteen years ago) link

"Tiger will do more than any other man in history to change the course of humanity"

- Earl Woods

fuck your "he's just a golfer" shit

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:45 (fourteen years ago) link

mind you i'm not saying he's right, just that you're wrong

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:46 (fourteen years ago) link

lol ok - this is where I get off the train, see u

__ ― (dyao), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:46 (fourteen years ago) link

this is crazy reductive

― J0rdan S., Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:41 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

how

i mean, i understand how it is actually v reductive ("he's a global sports figure! he's a human being! children take his actions seriously!"), but who fucking cares. bridging the gap between "he's famous" and "he owes the public a heartfelt apology" takes some serious effort, and a subscription to the idea that ppl are somehow more or less accountable to yr conception of morality because of their job title.

ps - yr politicians are corrupt, yr cops are thugs, yr surgeons are drunks, and yr soldiers are murderers

nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:48 (fourteen years ago) link

xp ok yeah, man c u

nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:48 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean, i understand how it is actually v reductive ("he's a global sports figure! he's a human being! children take his actions seriously!"), but who fucking cares. bridging the gap between "he's famous" and "he owes the public a heartfelt apology" takes some serious effort, and a subscription to the idea that ppl are somehow more or less accountable to yr conception of morality because of their job title.

they are accountable to societies conceptions of morality because of their job title, yes -- this is how the world works

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:51 (fourteen years ago) link

normatively i think that it would be great if everyone in america realized that athletes are assholes like the rest of us, but i also think that athletes nowadays should know that that's not how people operate, and that if they do some fucked up shit that they should just up and apologize for it because a lot of people would like that apology, whether it's right that they would like it or not

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:54 (fourteen years ago) link

ok, w/e, enjoy the world working

saying that "this is how the world works" /= "this is how the world ought to work"

your assertion was that tiger actually OWED the public (golf fans!) an apology because he laid a bunch of chicks. not that that was what was expected of him. no one would argue that the world expects mea culpas from athletes and politicians and whomever; i would, however, argue that expecting, ~valuing~, an apology from a fucking stranger for some personal garbage is juvenile to the max

xp ok

nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:57 (fourteen years ago) link

also i think doing so makes your life easier & less difficult, not the other way around, but that's a separate discussion

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:59 (fourteen years ago) link

gbx truth bomb

__ ― (dyao), Sunday, 21 February 2010 06:00 (fourteen years ago) link

i think big jim swells owes all of his fans an apology for not being an actual person

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 06:04 (fourteen years ago) link

we believed in his transformative ability & his potential to change ilx forever

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 February 2010 06:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Interesting. In all the back-and-forth here, it's probably worth pointing out that the media in swarm mode is *completely* childish - when they're howling THINK OF THE CHILDREN to get a reaction from a public figure, it's pure self-interest. BTW, famous sportspeople who sign endorsement contracts usually have to agree to a morals clause that is more onerous than a normal person's employment contract where you can lose your job by bringing the firm into disrepute or whatever. When you're adjudged to have sullied a brand, it's the reaction of your paymasters that matters most - the demand for public apology and the idea that one is seen to repent comes from even more powerful people than Woods, not the wife and kids. Sure, the family is hurt, too, but it's the third or fourth most important thing, in business terms. Public contrition is mostly theatre where normative things are said to placate the public, at the insistence of paymasters.

There has just been something similar in Britain with the captain of the England football team having to resign because he was fucking everything that moved while showing up to collect Dad of the Year prizes; the man in question is also a prize asshole and bully who lashes out at 'little people' all the time and goes running to his lawyer to protect him from the consequences. For example, normally a person who smashes a bottle over someone else in a nightclub, in front of witnesses, is convicted of a serious assault that carries jail time. Sometimes there's a whole pattern of behaviour that is heavily policed by the figure's gatekeepers.

The general public may never know the extent of a public figure's transgressions but reporters on a beat usually do - and figures who are Not A Role Model Behind The Scenes are a special subject of ire when they come with an injunction-spitting legal team. When an unflattering story gathers the critical mass that makes it lawyer-proof for journalists, BOOM. Everything the gatekeepers were trying to keep quiet comes out ten times as noisily.

barack hussein chalayan (suzy), Sunday, 21 February 2010 08:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Tiger Woods has no idea who any of us are. True.

Australia, the world's suburb (SeekAltRoute), Sunday, 21 February 2010 09:00 (fourteen years ago) link

BTW, famous sportspeople who sign endorsement contracts usually have to agree to a morals clause that is more onerous than a normal person's employment contract where you can lose your job by bringing the firm into disrepute or whatever. When you're adjudged to have sullied a brand, it's the reaction of your paymasters that matters most - the demand for public apology and the idea that one is seen to repent comes from even more powerful people than Woods, not the wife and kids. Sure, the family is hurt, too, but it's the third or fourth most important thing, in business terms. Public contrition is mostly theatre where normative things are said to placate the public, at the insistence of paymasters.

that's right. but "he needs to make a public apology to mitigate his breach of a contractual morals clause" and "he owes the public an apology" are different notions.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 February 2010 13:15 (fourteen years ago) link

the interesting part was how boring and monotonous his words and delivery were. was it really him or just a tigerbot?

thousands of masturbating weirdos (whatever), Sunday, 21 February 2010 13:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Bill Simmons:

Say this much about Tiger: People give a crap. I don't know anyone who didn't watch this morning's speech. There isn't another athlete -- not one -- who could have made the world stop from 11 to 11:15 like Tiger Woods did.

And with that, we're done with the positives.

lol

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 February 2010 13:24 (fourteen years ago) link

jordan u are fuckin insane

max, Sunday, 21 February 2010 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Someone may have already raised this point, not sure: just like with steroids in baseball, the sportswriters who are passing judgement on the "sincerity" of Tiger's mea culpa like they're Romanian figure skating judges or something are being laughably disingenuous. I don't believe for a second that any sportswriter who has covered Tiger closely for years didn't have at least a sense of what was going on. No one pursued the story because a) they decided it wasn't a story, and b) (the parallel with baseball) records were being broken, and records are good copy, so who wants to put that at risk? So a tabloid puts it all out there, and now they're all running around trying to cover their tracks.

clemenza, Sunday, 21 February 2010 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Just stumbled over this: excellent.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/joe_posnanski/02/20/tiger.apology/index.html?eref=sihp

clemenza, Sunday, 21 February 2010 13:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Simmons was on fire in that piece, I mean he totally nailed it. And of course Tiger's apology was done to please his sponsors and the PGA (i.e. the places where he earns his money). Plus, guys who are all-time greats in their sport usually reach a point in their careers where they're worried about protecting/promoting their legacy. Tiger desperately wants to beat Nicklaus' record and be known as the best golfer ever, he doesn't to leave behind any loopholes so that people have an opening to claim that Nicklaus or whoever was better than him. Lots of great athletes have had their careers retroactively downgraded because they didn't get along with the press/other players/etc. and I think that might scare Tiger more than the prospect of losing future income.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 21 February 2010 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link

i think woods' biggest worry in that regard is having to take off months to address this issue (e.g., SEX THERAPY -- what happens in SEX THERAPY, anyway?), depriving him of the chance to win many tounaments in his prime.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 February 2010 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link

"the man made hundreds of million dollars off endorsements that he secured -- and "we" paid for -- because he presented himself as a moral stalwart, a consummate role model who was an anecdote to the allen iversons & alex rodriguezes of sports'

He made his billion because of his performance on the golf course, period. Michael Jordon and Babe Ruth were sort of scum bags too. I don't think it's that big of a deal. They didn't kill anybody. It's seems like it would be hard being a saint and an alpha male sports superstar.

nicky lo-fi, Sunday, 21 February 2010 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I totally agree with your basic premise, but I'm not sure why you'd call MJ or Ruth scumbags. Jordan gambled, Ruth womanized and ate a lot of hot dogs. By all accounts, Ruth was immensely popular with the other players. How about "less than perfect"? It's a long way from there to scumbag.

clemenza, Sunday, 21 February 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe "scum bag" sounds harsh, but they both cheated on their wives. I know people have different views on this.

nicky lo-fi, Sunday, 21 February 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

just a little fuckin' around, let's be cool

it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission

blow it out your bad-taste hole (WmC), Sunday, 21 February 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

tbh jordan is on to something but i'm hung up on the concept of "apology"--yes technically it is correct that target did not "hurt" the public and does not need to "apologize" to them, HOWEVER, his entire public presentation was of a clean-livin' dude who could endorse literally any product and whatever and ultimately what "the public" dislikes is the shameless hypocrisy of his actions.

so if tiger chose to tell us all, along with the media, to fuck off so he could be some supervillainous golfer who didn't care about anything then fine, that's a choice he could make. however, he is clearly trying to rehabilitate his image and just going about it totally wrong and i think as "the public" it's fair to say "fine dude if you want to rehabilitate your image we'll help you, but don't get up there and blatantly condescend and front like the real crime here is that your privacy got invaded, show some humanity and answer a gd question or two"

call all destroyer, Sunday, 21 February 2010 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

don't get up there and blatantly condescend and front like the real crime here is that your privacy got invaded

he didnt do this tho! the privacy thing was about 30 seconds of a 15-minute speech

max, Sunday, 21 February 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link

he said, like, over and over that he was to blame, and he was the only to blame, and that he was deeply sorry

max, Sunday, 21 February 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link

but ultimately, none of it matters. he'll be back on tour this year and everyone will have forgotten about this by the time he wins two majors.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 21 February 2010 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean i dont really give a shit about him apologizing the way jordan does so maybe im being more lenient but i thought it was a fine, sincere apology

max, Sunday, 21 February 2010 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i know max i still think "leave my family alone" was megalol in that speech

call all destroyer, Sunday, 21 February 2010 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

i thought it was a silly, transparently insincere apology but i otherwise agree with max.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 February 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

eh. i think its pretty fucked up that ppl are following his kids to school.

max, Sunday, 21 February 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

but ultimately, none of it matters.

this - I still shake my head that kobe is lauded and given hi fives all around despite being accused of rape. and aren't there nfl players playing right now who have been accused of murder? ray lewis, I think?

Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ (dyao), Sunday, 21 February 2010 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i actually dont know what woods could have done to convince any of you that his apology was insincere? i mean this is a ridiculous debate to be having since a) none of us really have the right to demand an apology from him so our observation of his sincerity is beside the issue and b) none of us know the guy personally so judgments of his sincerity are gonna be totally abstract

max, Sunday, 21 February 2010 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i agree but, tbf, big difference is "accused/beat the charge" v. "convicted/admitted" (xp)

oh, i don't care if his apology was sincere or insincere. he didn't owe me an apology. just saying it sounded insincere to me (and maybe that's because of something innocuous, e.g., my feelings about the matter coloring how i viewed the apology; his generally stiff demeanor; etc.)

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 February 2010 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link

i actually dont know what woods could have done to convince any of you that his apology was insincere?

ended his speech by lasciviously winking @ a sexxxy pr chick and asking how she was doin'

F → F−F++F−F (Lamp), Sunday, 21 February 2010 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link

p sure tiger woods owes me an apology for never once hitting on me i mean cmon

F → F−F++F−F (Lamp), Sunday, 21 February 2010 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link

anyway i think its p sickening the way jordan and sportswriters and whoever else are all demanding their pound of flesh from the guy but i dont really expect any different from this country, everyone just wants to be offended and watch ppl cry

max, Sunday, 21 February 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link

whores, all of you

Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ (dyao), Sunday, 21 February 2010 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

anyway i think its p sickening the way jordan and sportswriters and whoever else are all demanding their pound of flesh from the guy but i dont really expect any different from this country

i'm not sure what this means

/b/ OK (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 21 February 2010 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link

oh i misread you, nevermind

/b/ OK (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 21 February 2010 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link

i guess my thing is that i don't understand how getting in front of a camera and saying "i'm sorry, i fucked up" is a pound of flesh, but w/e

/b/ OK (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 21 February 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link

a pound of adulterous semen

i know who the sockpuppet master of ilx is (velko), Sunday, 21 February 2010 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link

i guess my thing is that i don't understand how getting in front of a camera and saying "i'm sorry, i fucked up" is a pound of flesh, but w/e

― /b/ OK (J0rdan S.), Sunday, February 21, 2010 1:30 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the pound flesh bit is that a) he doesnt owe this to you, and b) he did it anyway and c) youre still complaining!

max, Sunday, 21 February 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link

well, i want to emphasize that i don't personally care about the sincerity of his apology -- it didn't come off as sincere to me, but that's really besides the point of if he should've done it or not in the first place -- speculation upthread on whether or not it was "good" was solely from the standpoint of "how will this play with the public"

/b/ OK (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 21 February 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link

basically the pursuit of worldwide fame and the attainment of it turns people into insane robots who are seemingly incapable of having emotions or actions that aren't overly studied.

('_') (omar little), Sunday, 21 February 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

i think woods' biggest worry in that regard is having to take off months to address this issue (e.g., SEX THERAPY -- what happens in SEX THERAPY, anyway?)

Hope it's not anything like this album:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_DU2WkCLq3SY/SzEaCaEdw9I/AAAAAAAAAXs/ZJeleLph_hw/s400/Robin-Thicke-Sex-Therapy-Official-Album-Cover.jpg

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 14:20 (fourteen years ago) link

sex therapy: officially a bad album. you heard it from stephen ilxor

idgi, mon (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I wasn't referring to the album (haven't heard it and I'd like to keep it that way, thanks) so much as the disembodied hands creeping all over Robin's body -- a pun on the phrase "sex therapy" that I'm sure you can figure out, kevin.

Hence why I hope sex therapy for Tiger isn't anything like what's on the Robin Thicke album *cover* (key word "cover" missing in my original post, fwiw).

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't get the pun :/

Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ (dyao), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Sex therapy = using sex as therapy...

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link

why so unhappy, robin thicke?!?

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 23 February 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

they don't look like menacing zombie hands, or anything.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 23 February 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

That wasn't my point...

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link

xp was thinking the exact same thing and trying to come up with a horror pun. sex the rapy? ???

Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ (dyao), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

oh i wasn't addressing ilxor's pun at all. i just think robin thicke should be happier!

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 23 February 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

What gives you the impression he's not happy? Dude gets to tour the world with Beyonce and Jennifer Hudson, making millions belting his white boy R&B tunes to his fans, and gets to bang his high school sweetheart/wife on the side.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

i know nothing of him (never heard of robin thicke). but if he gets to hang-out with beyonce and jennifer hudson, he should be a happy guy. smile, robin thicke!

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 23 February 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXgVuaVtvP4

Gets really good around 2:08 fwiw.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link

gatorade drops tiger

http://www.dailyfinance.com/article/gatorade-drops-tiger-woods/807840/?flv=1

idgi, mon (k3vin k.), Friday, 26 February 2010 22:44 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

so his first tournament back will be the masters. as well as that sets up for him, it's borderline disrespectful imo.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

More like the Master(bator), amirite?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Disrespectful in what way?

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

aawww yeah, this is gonna be so sick

funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

i feel what CAD's saying -- just that he's taking the biggest event in the sport and making it about him, more than it would ever be normally, at least -- he could have played a smaller tournament a week or two ahead of time, i guess -- it seems like by picking the masters he's inviting the pressure onto himself on purpose, like it might make him play better? idk why else he wouldn't play a warm up tourney beforehand

funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i dunno it's just that the masters/augusta national is pretty much the hallowed ground for golf in america and to a certain extent he's going to overshadow golf's best weekend in a way that wouldn't have been so extreme if he had played some other tournament in advance.

otoh it's an extremely protective environment and has much more of a sense of decorum than other tournaments so it totally makes sense for him.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i think he wouldnt play anywhere else 1st just cuz of the crush of media that it would attract -- that is really minimized at augusta. i guess also, he may just not be competatively ready to.

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link

when he flames out after the first two days, the media frenzy will be unbearable

smoking cigarette shades? it doesn't even make any sense. (HI DERE), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Smart (i.e. calculated) choice on his part in that the tournament directors keep a very tight grip on "patron" behavior. Still, I'm predicting a few "get in the hole!!!"s will be replaced with "BLOWJOB!!!!"s.

Religious Embolism (WmC), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

fwiw i'd support that being the new thing everyone shouts in the crowd at every golf tournament.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link

it would be kind of amazing if hecklers followed Vijay Singh around shouting "BLOW JOB!!!!"

smoking cigarette shades? it doesn't even make any sense. (HI DERE), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link

"GET IN THE BUTT HOLE"

Super Cub, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link

which competitor is gonna pull a mini-tonya harding & hire four slutty blondes to follow tiger around the course just within his peripherals

funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, the choice of tournament as an attempt to minimize gallery jeers is going to be futile. Jim Nantz and his crew of respectful whisperers will tut-tut the bad behavior; meanwhile Sean McManus will roll around naked in a pile of Nielsen ratings reports.

Religious Embolism (WmC), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Not sure it's disrespectful, because I'm sure the PGA/Augusta National people love it. No one gives a shit about golf without Tiger. Now it will get big ratings Thurs/Fri and ridiculous ratings if he's in the hunt on Sunday. If he came back and sucked and/or dominated at a smaller tournament, it wouldn't be as good for them.

FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link

which competitor is gonna pull a mini-tonya harding & hire four slutty blondes to follow tiger around the course just within his peripherals

― funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:17 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I think they will be out there already.

I agree with Milo. This is going to be the biggest fucking golf tournament in history, by far. I can't wait.

Bill Magill, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link

nah augusta is srsly impossible 2 get into and if you do anything untoward ur tossed

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

tossed, you say?
http://www.worldgolf.com/photo-galleries/images/preview/17673.jpg

the pity party of tiny feet (onimo), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link

He's no Butterscotch Stallion in that dept.

FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link

how dare golf's good name be sullied by a man who cheated on his wife

TNTiger: we know sexy (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

cannot wait for this btw

TNTiger: we know sexy (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link

'Can't wait' was my reaction as well.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 12:07 (fourteen years ago) link

hoping that all spectators will be barred from being on the course at all tbh

I request "Fireflies" (dyao), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 12:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Tiger:Sent: 04:06 PM 08/29/2009:
Slap your face. Treat you like a dirty little whore. Put my cock in your ass and then shove it down your throat

funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Tiger:Sent: 04:08 PM 08/29/2009:
Hold you down while i choke you and Fuck that ass that i own

funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link

- Have you ever had a golden shower done to you? ... just morbid curiosity.

velko, Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

this should prob be a poll of some sort

funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Don't Fucking talk to me. You almost just ruined my whole life. If my agent and these guys would have seen you there, Fuck

max, Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media-cdn/jj1/headlines/2008/08/michael-phelps-tiger-woods.jpg
"Slap your face. Treat you like a dirty little whore. Put my cock in your ass and then shove it down your throat"

velko, Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link

"... and then apologise for it afterwards in a stiff and formal press conference in front of my corporate sponsors"

The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link

http://img.timeinc.net/golf/i/tours/2007/09/sept30_tigerbush_600x428.jpg
"Have you ever had a golden shower done to you? ... just morbid curiosity."

velko, Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Tiger:Sent: 07:12 PM 09/07/2009:

No turkey unless it’s a club sandwich

velko, Thursday, 18 March 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link

my friends are getting so many gross texts today

funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 March 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

dare i ask where are these texts are reposited?

Sex Sexual (kingfish), Thursday, 18 March 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link

leave tiger alone

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 18 March 2010 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

in his room with a porn star

funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 March 2010 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link

watch out for the room service cart

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 18 March 2010 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Does that excite you at all or no

ô_o (Nicole), Thursday, 18 March 2010 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link

hahahah

• With many of his mistresses, Woods was allegedly exceedingly cheap. Mindy Lawton says the only thing he ever bought for her was a chicken wrap from Subway (he was stopping there on his way to meet her).

hipster puddy (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Weirdest thing about some of those exchanges is that the most famous golfer in the world-slash-billionaire apparently wasn't even booking himself suites on the road. I imagined that he was given the Presidential Suite wherever he stayed.

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

# can tiger record a rap song so he can drop an "all you get is hard dick and chicken wraps" line? 12:12 PM Mar 31st via web

^this is a quality tweet

johnny crunch, Saturday, 3 April 2010 02:47 (fourteen years ago) link

^_^

2 guys 1 jag (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 April 2010 03:38 (fourteen years ago) link

news conference

maderator (k3vin k.), Monday, 5 April 2010 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link

"Not fooled by the goatee, Tiger" vs. "Enter: EVIL Tiger!"

Has Woods rocked the facial hair before?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 April 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

“The encouragement I got, it blew me away,” he said.

I bet!

Woods did admit to taking prescription pain killers in connection to a knee injury and an Achilles injury and sedatives around the time his father, Earl, died in 2006.

Could it have been his Achilles ... heel?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 April 2010 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Caption this photo:

http://www.latimes.com/media/alternatethumbnails/photo/2010-04/53106900-05112743.jpg

Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 April 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I like the woman in the middle checking out his ass

Wood shavings! Laughing out loud! (HI DERE), Monday, 5 April 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1263385/Tiger-Woods-returns-golf-Augusta--army-90-bodyguards.html

Tiger Woods returns to golf in Augusta... with an army of 90 bodyguards

armando white (dyao), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 06:24 (fourteen years ago) link

tiger woods soundboard

mookieproof, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwF873gU_uU

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 April 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link

tiger woods tees off today to the sound of one million assholes screaming GET IN THE HOLE

mayor jingleberries, Thursday, 8 April 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm behind on my euphemisms; I still don't get what the "club sandwich" text refers to, unless he was just ordering lunch.

WTF cat with unfitting music (kingfish), Thursday, 8 April 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link

think of what he could have sandwiched his golf club between

my heart will goon (some dude), Thursday, 8 April 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Club Sandwich 24 up, 13 down

Similar to a threesome but involves 5 people, 3 male and 2 female, in a stack arrangement that resembles a Club Sandwich. In order to hold the stack together one of the women must wear a strap-on otherwise known as the 'toothpick' in the sandwich.

Could my two friends and I interest you ladies in a Club Sandwich?

club sandwich sandwich threesome 3some gang bang

by MattMc Sep 14, 2006 share this

goon with the wind (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 April 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link

that snap hook shot on 9 was siiick

johnny crunch, Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Its pretty even money around the office that he wins this thing. And yes, that second shot on 9 was amazing.

Regardless of his horrible taste in women (his wife notwithstanding), dude can play some golf. It is proven.

Clerk all KNOWIN (B.L.A.M.), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

That Nike commercial seems like the worst idea ever.

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link

don't even understand it - is there something to understand?

conrad, Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

People are making a lot of remixes of it that aren't very funny.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link

xp - Tiger's dad is dressing him down for sticking his dick in any available hole?

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Thursday, 8 April 2010 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link

or, more likely, sticking his dick in any available hole and getting busted

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Thursday, 8 April 2010 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

(nb: Daddy's been dead for a few years, so they repurposed old audio for this purpose)

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Thursday, 8 April 2010 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

that sounds incredibly creepy & fucked up

goon with the wind (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 April 2010 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

remix that's amusing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TO6wI9OQRE

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Thursday, 8 April 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I thought that's what it was milo z i.e. he's exploiting (or letting nike exploit) not only the dick-hole thing but also his father's death - I don't understand

conrad, Thursday, 8 April 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't understand

I think it might be something to do with him being an unprincipled shameless arsehole.

you've been shite, son, in your daft pink boots (onimo), Thursday, 8 April 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

ah!

conrad, Thursday, 8 April 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Wow - Nike endorse philandering!

Blue Sky Whine (SeekAltRoute), Friday, 9 April 2010 02:04 (fourteen years ago) link

The Nike commercial is fantastic. It reminds me of the New Yorker Obama cover--it takes everything that's out there and throws at back at you in a way that upsets a lot of people. I'm not saying that their motives are altruistic--their only interest is in salvaging a public image so that they can continue to make piles of money--but in terms of the mess they have to extricate themselves from, I can't imagine a better way to handle it.

clemenza, Friday, 9 April 2010 03:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, people are talking about it a lot.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Friday, 9 April 2010 03:33 (fourteen years ago) link

i hven't seen it, but i'm struggling to imagine a way that it couldn't be deeply awful

Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Friday, 9 April 2010 11:40 (fourteen years ago) link

It's worse than you could possibly imagine

that sounds incredibly creepy & fucked up

That's Tiger for you!

Is that your Ayrshire bacon? (Tom D.), Friday, 9 April 2010 11:43 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm basically hearing earl as mufasa telling tiger to man the fuck up, that might be cool actually.

Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Friday, 9 April 2010 11:44 (fourteen years ago) link

It's worse than you can possibly imagine.

I don't get this at all. Nike decided to stand by him--good for them; I think those who bailed are spineless--and now they have to figure out a way to move past all this as much and as quickly as possible. Should they have stayed on the sidelines for a few more months, and then at some point have snuck in a pre-scandal-type ad of Tiger hitting golf balls or some such thing--a pay-no-attention-to-that-elephant-in-the-room ad? Would a jokey ad have been better? Seems to me that would have really infuriated a lot of people. I think it's an ingenious (and relatively artistic) attempt to defuse a complicated problem.

clemenza, Friday, 9 April 2010 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link

youtube parodies of this are much less funnier than I would have thought possible.

fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Monday, 12 April 2010 01:52 (fourteen years ago) link

that ad is terrible. it's trying to get tiger back to where he was before, but since he wasn't there before anyway because ~there~ is just an illusion, and a dull one at that, it is a horrible, contemptuous, cynical piece of crap.

estela, Monday, 12 April 2010 02:04 (fourteen years ago) link

the snl parody was somehow better than almost all of them

am0n corner (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 April 2010 02:05 (fourteen years ago) link

haven't checked out any of the other parodies, but the bit on Colbert w/ different voices on the audio -- especially Gene Wilder in Young Frankenstein -- was hysterical

fucka washa hat (some dude), Monday, 12 April 2010 03:03 (fourteen years ago) link

that advert makes him seem like a sociopath

caek, Monday, 12 April 2010 09:08 (fourteen years ago) link

When Tiger pulled a shot on the one of the back 9 holes he muttered 'Tiger' to himself with a voice and a childlike frustration that reminded me of...Michael Jackson.

Mark my words, etc.

The post-final round interview was all me me me awful...fine if he doesn't want to change his ways round the course (the attempts to get him to lighten up a bit are pathetic) but he shouldn't pretend to go along with it.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 April 2010 12:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm starting to wonder if the little ritual we've developed for celebrity scandals (give a press conference with a wife standing quietly behind you, vanish into some treatment center for a while, and then come out declaring that Everything's Changed) is starting to break down.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 12 April 2010 13:08 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIFmUtXJheo

☀ ☃ (am0n), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link

"tiger woods... you sssssssssssuck. god damn it."

☀ ☃ (am0n), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Golf is extremely frustrating. I had to quit for a while because I would curse and scream after every missed shot. He shouldn't change his attitude on the course, he should just tell others to fuck off if they don't like it.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

well, the problem is that he explicitly said that he was going to try and change his attitude on the course, so that's pretty much why he's getting scrutinized over it

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

did u curse yourself in third-person

☀ ☃ (am0n), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link

thats the creepy part imo

☀ ☃ (am0n), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i have cursed myself in third-person on the course. it's shameful but it happens.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

cheating on his wife like 4,750 times is more bothersome that cursing on the course IMO

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

is anyone saying it isn't?

☀ ☃ (am0n), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

He shouldn't change his attitude on the course, he should just tell others to fuck off if they don't like it.

yeah, that'll go over real well.

All screamers and club-throwers need to get a fucking grip on the course, even the multimillionaire ones.

millions now zinging will never lol (WmC), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link

He's the best golfer to ever live. I think whatever he's done to this point is good enough to keep doing for the rest of his career. His attitude doesn't have to 'go over real well' with anybody, he just needs to have the lowest score at the end of Sunday.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link

All screamers and club-throwers need to get a fucking grip on the course, even especially the multimillionaire ones.

fixed

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link

thanking u

millions now zinging will never lol (WmC), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

the analogy jim nantz is making is so dum that he should be fired for making it

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link

also, this --

I think whatever he's done to this point is good enough to keep doing for the rest of his career. His attitude doesn't have to 'go over real well' with anybody, he just needs to have the lowest score at the end of Sunday.

-- is baloney. Tell that to Tim Finchem, the companies that have kept his sponsorship deals, the companies that have dropped his sponsorship deals, parents of kids who said "god dammit" for the first time because they heard the best golfer in the world say it, etc etc. They'll all tell you to buy a fucking vowel and solve the puzzle. If he doesn't improve his image, he'll be toast within five years. It's okay, he's got enough money to last the rest of his life. But if Nicklaus' majors record really means anything to him, he's got to make a PR move to go with the golf talent.

millions now zinging will never lol (WmC), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Wow, Jim Nantz is on fire in this Simmons podcast.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link

xp what'er they gonna do, kick him off the tour? not sayin his image and his game dont go somewhat hand in hand but if he wanted to he could go total scorched earth fuck everything (no pun intended) and still prolly take down the majors record

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Wow, Jim Nantz is on fire in this Simmons podcast.

― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, April 13, 2010 4:57 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

what do they talk about

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Masters, NCAA tourney, NFL overtime.

He's very fiery!

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't know. It's an interesting and complicated question. For one thing, I think there's a minimum number of events that PGA Tour players are supposed to play in per year. Tiger would lots rather just emerge from seclusion for the majors, but would Finchem let him? Also, TF has been real quiet and behind-the-scenes in penalizing players, but that smooth facade kind of got cracked by John Daly. Would he suspend Tiger for a week or a month for on-course cussing? Doubt it.

xpost to crunch

millions now zinging will never lol (WmC), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link

he could theoretically just play the majors and wgc events the way, say, some1 like westwood does (who doesnt belong to the pga iirc)

yea any sort of discipline would be kinda crazy and i dont think it's really finchem's style to put his foot down like that.

it's a much different image issue than someone like david stern or rodg goddell is dealing w/, altho the product & audience is a lot diff too

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Woods Withdraws (that's what she said) from Players Championship

Woods, who missed the cut last week at Quail Hollow, has been in tunnel-vision mode this week, brushing past volunteers and fans after every round on his way to the clubhouse. On Saturday, one of the fans he passed, a young boy, shouted, “Hey, Tiger! Say so long to that No. 1 ranking. Kiss it goodbye!”

Woods replied, "You're an asshole, little boy. I hate you and your family."

A lot of you have come here today with booing in your heart (Z S), Sunday, 9 May 2010 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link

...and that boy's name was...actually I don't know. Never mind.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 May 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

“I’ve been playing with a bad neck for quite a while,” Woods said, adding, “I might have a bulging disk.”

I would so have got myself beaten unconscious with a 7 iron at this point in the press conference.

they're all women so you'll probably like them (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 May 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

possibilities endless.

i'd have gone with the obvious floppy/hard question, then if there were time trying to find out whether 3.5in, 8in, what have you, then on my way out the door there'd definitely have been a final query about RAM capability.

Black IP's (darraghmac), Sunday, 9 May 2010 23:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Gotta say if Woods gets to win another six majors it will be some achievement.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 May 2010 10:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Woods, who missed the cut last week at Quail Hollow, has been in tunnel-vision mode this week, brushing past volunteers and fans after every round on his way to the clubhouse

He was always like this though surely?

See the majority? Where's the majority? (Tom D.), Monday, 10 May 2010 10:12 (fourteen years ago) link

depending on hottness

Black IP's (darraghmac), Monday, 10 May 2010 10:14 (fourteen years ago) link

definitely has always had "tunnel" "vision"

Did you in fact lift my luggage (dyao), Monday, 10 May 2010 10:16 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/

BREAKING NEWS
BUSINESS NEWS
MOST READ
7:04PMWoods' withdrawal blamed on 'bulging d***'

estela, Monday, 10 May 2010 10:22 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

elin to get 3/4 of a billion in the settlement - you go girl!

got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

holy fuck

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

dayum

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:00 (thirteen years ago) link

she can never speak in public about him or write about him, even after he's dead.

156, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link

worth it imo

max, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link

She'd probably be happy to never have to say his name again with 3/4 bill in her pocket.

I'd forget my OWN name for that.

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

go girl

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link

In a perfect world she gets that 3/4 billion and can live her life however she damn well pleases. Skywrite her memoirs if she wants. The idea that there are any stipulations that come with that settlement kind of annoys me.

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link

not arguing with you but that's how settlements usually work afaik.

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link

real world sucks imo

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link

if it makes you feel better, i'm sure she had the option to not settle for $750 million and instead write a book and pocket a cool $15 million

jeff, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link

how's this, if Elin does ~nothing~ except throw this into a basic savings/money market/CD:

$750 000 000 * 2.25% / 12 = $1 406 250 MONTHLY income

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 1 July 2010 04:18 (thirteen years ago) link

man i need to get cheated on by a golfer

max, Thursday, 1 July 2010 04:27 (thirteen years ago) link

O_O

VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 1 July 2010 04:30 (thirteen years ago) link

New life plan.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 1 July 2010 04:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Thatsallotttadough

VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 1 July 2010 04:31 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry, i should have specified that is only interest income... the $.75B principal will always be there if the $27k/week isn't enough.

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 1 July 2010 06:28 (thirteen years ago) link

shasta what would you do w/ 27 grand a week

max, Thursday, 1 July 2010 06:29 (thirteen years ago) link

b real

max, Thursday, 1 July 2010 06:29 (thirteen years ago) link

no charity

max, Thursday, 1 July 2010 06:29 (thirteen years ago) link

i would learn how to play golf

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 1 July 2010 06:40 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

http://outofbounds.nbcsports.com/ATTA_BOY_PHIL.gif

van smack, Sunday, 22 August 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

the chappelle show episode w/ the racial draft was on tonight -- wonder if the tiger woods pick would be considered a bust now

J0rdan S., Thursday, 16 September 2010 01:07 (thirteen years ago) link

haahaha

k3vin k., Thursday, 16 September 2010 02:15 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://i56.tinypic.com/5wfssm.jpg

Cunga, Friday, 8 October 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

tiger lookin v good this back 9

johnny crunch, Friday, 8 April 2011 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah he is GOING IN atm

k3vin k., Friday, 8 April 2011 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

someone should sample Tiger growling 'get down' for a funky dnb tune.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 8 April 2011 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link

just mcilroy's luck tbh

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Friday, 8 April 2011 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link

66!

k3vin k., Friday, 8 April 2011 23:08 (thirteen years ago) link

hopefully he doesnt blow up tomorrow, him in it on sunday will be p great tv

johnny crunch, Friday, 8 April 2011 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Excited about this, for real.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 April 2011 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I hope yesterday was legitimate--if he's there on Sunday, I'll pay attention to golf for the first time since...he was last there on a Sunday.

clemenza, Saturday, 9 April 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I bet Tiger is still philandering like the old days.

van smack, Saturday, 9 April 2011 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

No--supposedly he's settled down with a 22-year-old blonde. He's going about the hard work of mending his public image.

clemenza, Saturday, 9 April 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Tiger not even getting his face on his own game franchise
http://gamerinvestments.com/video-game-stocks/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/tiger-woods-pga-tour-12-box-small-tiger.jpg

death, taxes and (onimo), Saturday, 9 April 2011 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link

hitting it well today, but so is everyone else it seems.

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 April 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

putts aren't falling

k3vin k., Saturday, 9 April 2011 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, but same for mcilroy right now.

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 April 2011 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

choi is killing it

k3vin k., Saturday, 9 April 2011 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

whoops jinxed it sorry kj

k3vin k., Saturday, 9 April 2011 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

fuuuck

k3vin k., Saturday, 9 April 2011 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Tiger's at -5 now, so even if he keeps it at that today, he's still contending for tomorrow certainly.

That's why they call me (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 9 April 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah they way this is going they'll both be starting tomorrow as chasers to someone else though

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 April 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

WTF IS LUKE DONALD WEARING, CHRIST

Z S, Saturday, 9 April 2011 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

serious question - is he color blind?

Z S, Saturday, 9 April 2011 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

it is the colours of some club in london iirc? or so sky commentator 'dropped'

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 April 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

the fact that you can distinctly notice the color combo issue from the sky and comment on it is very telling

Z S, Saturday, 9 April 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

lol no u don't understand in europe we have this thing called a satellite that beams us golf from space

that is why he is dressed like a jetson

it is complicated

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 April 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm looking forward to the wave of books that comes out next year about the puke green/puke pink color combo

amazing

Z S, Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

seems like you've prob been spared seeing rickey fowlers outfits

johnny crunch, Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Have you never seen Rickie Fowler go all out in the wardrobe department? Luke Donald is tame by comparison.

That's why they call me (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

tiger is fucking up

k3vin k., Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Rory has no 3 putts, showin great poise w/ the lead imo

yea tigers been shitty today

johnny crunch, Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link

shittys too far, inconsistent

johnny crunch, Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link

agree with you, yeah. It's a really mature round for the position he's in.

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

mcilroy brilliant, tiger incredibly lucky there

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

tiger is, how you say, finished

k3vin k., Saturday, 9 April 2011 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link

"if you ignore all the three-putts and unforced errors that was a pretty good round" lol wtf Tiger

death, taxes and (onimo), Saturday, 9 April 2011 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link

That's the way I'd view things if I ever played golf.

That's why they call me (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 9 April 2011 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link

that lime green and purple number is awesome, who knew golf was so fashion-forward

burn me at the stake if you must (reddening), Saturday, 9 April 2011 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Good luck to the kid. I ain't watchin'.

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link

fowler is really good at matching the shirts with the pants and the shoes

Z S, Sunday, 10 April 2011 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Is he short? 'Cause if his golf game dries up he can go to jockey school.

City of Jorts (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 10 April 2011 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link

It's like Golf Garanimals.

That's why they call me (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 10 April 2011 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link

when he does something scandalous and they make a tv movie about him, he can be played by that blond guy from party down!

also my little cousin came in just as i was looking at the pictures above, and he stared at them intently for a moment and said, "What a nerd."

burn me at the stake if you must (reddening), Sunday, 10 April 2011 02:20 (thirteen years ago) link

ha!

That's why they call me (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 10 April 2011 02:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm watchin'!

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

dayum

johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 April 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

prowlin

J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 April 2011 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

the only thing that sucks about this is that he's gonna be done way before the rest of these guys

J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 April 2011 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

k3vin k., is how u say, ro-rong

cold hands of monkeys on my heart (CaptainLorax), Sunday, 10 April 2011 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link

great save on 9

johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 April 2011 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link

was just coming to post OMFG Tiger

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 10 April 2011 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

TIGER

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 April 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

lol lorax otm, i did not think tiger had a 62 in him

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 April 2011 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link

eagle would be nice here

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 April 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Rory is peeping thru windows here

johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 April 2011 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Not looking good...You start to figure it's going to be the guy least likely to fall apart--Cabrera?

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

dnw broomputter adam scott

johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

choi maybe

johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

mclolroy

We're just so lost as a buzzosphere (rip van wanko), Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

r8ry

johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

oh man feel so bad for mcilroy

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Same here--it's easy to forget how young 21 is.

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

not for me lol

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Whoa! I was pretty sure from the way he started walking forward it was good, but geez...

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

NO WAY

We're just so lost as a buzzosphere (rip van wanko), Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

that miss & the one on 11? r killer

johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

welp

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Cruel, cruel game. 10 years ago, automatic.

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

lol @ all these dudes CBS hasn't shown in two days bein legitly in contention

johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

is anyone listening to this? http://sportsshow.comedycentral.com/norm-macdonald-live/?xrs=synd_twitter

jeff, Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't believe Ogilvy. Six consecutive birdies on the back nine on Sunday--that's like science-fiction.

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

jesus christ rory

J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Rory.

That's why they call me (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Holy shit.

That's why they call me (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

hard to watch christ

johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Five in a row, not six...not yet, anyway.

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

rory mcilroy golf/life crash

vampire weeknd (cozen), Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

imagine a five-way playoff

johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

is this kid an arsenal fan

vampire weeknd (cozen), Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

there is literally too much action/drama happening

johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I give up--no idea who takes this. If Tiger were up against one guy, I'd say get in there tied or one up and you're in good shape--people fall apart in majors as a matter of course. But five or six guys make it extremely unlikely his -10 or -11 will be good enough.

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah tigers only shot was to birdie 18 and hope for a plague of locusts

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Now I wanna see an 8-way playoff.

That's why they call me (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Almost eerie the way Rory was...disappeared from CBS. It's like the empty locker when someone's just been sent to the minors.

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

is this kid an arsenal fan

― vampire weeknd (cozen)

lol

scott's to lose now

can't see -10 winning this but what a day for tiger

wow shit interview

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

my heart would break for rory but sure isn't he 'one of theirs' so it's to be expected imo

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Where is Australia anyway?

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

it's beside middle earth iirc

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

scott teeshot perfect, if he's gonna do that shit this is over

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Almost eerie the way Rory was...disappeared from CBS. It's like the empty locker when someone's just been sent to the minors.

― clemenza, Sunday, April 10, 2011 9:57 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark\

that last shot they showed of him after his disastrous shot into the little creek was so brutal. I wish they'd stopped before that.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link

long putter manufacturers shd have them for sale @ starbucks 2morrow, theyd make crazy bank

johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link

long putters are an affront

J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link

the last close-up of rory was after another wayward drive, i thought he was gonna cry. rough stuff.

feck, just missed another sitter

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

jordan otm re long putters, obviously

SCHWARTZEL

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Schwartzel: the most euphonious golf name since Verplank (which sound extra good when you say it in a Jerry Lewis voice).

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

never underestimate the power of the schwartzel

johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

JAY DAY

johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Jason Day reminds me a little bit of my brother, who golfs, so I guess I'm pulling for him...because my brother's never gonna play at The Masters ffs.

That's why they call me (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

that's the kind of sports psychology got rory mcilroy where he is now

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link

who is this guy "charl"

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link

he stuck the hell out of that putt

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

charls gonna win this, damn, wanted scott

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

i dig how there are no interesting american golfers anymore

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

yo whose wife is that

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

srsly

think she's day's?

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah she was days

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

ass for days more like

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

and again

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

aussie bros, that's nice :)

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link

drop a shot charl ffs

johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link

srsly

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link

she is so shiny it's nice how shiny she is

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Schwartzel > Day; Mrs. Day > Mrs. Schwartzel.

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link

"if it comes to a playoff, that could make all the difference, peter"

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

wow, buried another one

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link

2 putts to win.......

OH WOW

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

nailed it

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

geez 4 birdies to close the tournament

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link

dude is ice-cold.

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link

haha i seriously thought "she was days" was some sort of awesome slang term at first

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I bet no one's ever birdied out from behind to win--not four holes deep, anyway.

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

huh wiki says it's pronounced "karl" but clearly jim nantz does not agree

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

lol kev the one time i casually drop an apostrophe

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link

holy fuck that shot schwartzel made on the first hole!

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:57 (thirteen years ago) link

he knocked in another on the sixth or so too

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

stupid ending to a stupid tournament in a stupid sport imo

J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:00 (thirteen years ago) link

nah golf is rad

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

being a casual golf fan is pretty bad, it has the capacity to deflate drama like nothing else. EXCITEMENT EXCITEMENT EXCITEMENT o some boring asshole you've never heard of just appeared from nowhere and won.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link

how is that not awesome?

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link

that's the best part! anyone can put together a good weekend and beat the big names you're for some reason expected to root for.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link

nah that's not the best part really but jordan is completely wrong

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link

the masters isn't a stupid tournament but golf is a stupid, often hateable, sport

J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't know if today makes me more or less optimistic about Tiger catching Nicklaus. That missed eagle putt was ominous.

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link

uh clemenza the guy hasn't won a tournament in 2 years, he isn't catching nicklaus

J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link

he's catchin him alright

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I defer to your powers of ESP.

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link

- spits into baccy jar, rocks a little more on his chair -

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd be completely fine with it if the guys appearing from nowhere didn't always seem like boring assholes! That's not a plucky underdog I can get behind. Tho I appreciate that the judgement of them in those terms doesn't have much basis and so is probably my problem.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link

ha yeah that's part of it

also it's more fun when the big names are in contention/leading because they are the best players and have the most/coolest shots

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

what's your beef with golf, sarge?

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

like in terms of it's boring to watch, or you think the game itself is dumb, or the privilege/politics?

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link

i still can't understand the mentality that tiger is of all a sudden gonna be able to flip a switch back to 2001 -- idk how many tournaments in a row he has to falter in before ppl just give up on it

J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link

like in terms of it's boring to watch, or you think the game itself is dumb, or the privilege/politics?

― k3vin k., Sunday, April 10, 2011 7:23 PM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark

mostly the last one, some of the other two -- i usually watch the back nines of the majors, that's about all i can watch tho

J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link

if that was tiger faltering.............

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, he doesn't need to flip the switch back to 2001--he needs to flip it back to 2009, when he won six tournaments. I'm not saying it will happen, but I don't know how you can say with such absolute certainty that it won't happen. Great athletes do surprising things.

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link

the guy hasn't won a tournament in 2 years, he isn't catching nicklaus

He's only 35. Nicklaus was 46 when he won his 5th Masters, and Tiger already has 5. PLENTY of time for him to eclipse Nicklaus.

That's why they call me (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link

And, again, I think today sent out a mixed message in terms of his chances.

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link

mmmmhmmm

J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link

would back tiger to win 1 of the next 4 majors on todays showing

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link

hope tiger never wins again

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link

would back tiger to win 1 of the next 4 majors on todays showing

― the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, April 10, 2011 7:27 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

how about 4 more after that

J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Tiger's definitely shown some poor play over the last two years, but you're not as good as he was for as long as he was and then just lose it.

That's why they call me (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link

No formula for this, but I'd say his chances have dropped in two years from the 80%+ range down to about...25 or 30%. Which'd be decent. (He needs four to tie and five to go ahead, right?)

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link

call it one every three years, divide by 7, carry the 2, yeah i'd say he'll do it

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Tiger's definitely shown some poor play over the last two years, but you're not as good as he was for as long as he was and then just lose it.

In sports, not usually, though it does happen. Elsewhere, cf. the Rolling Stones and Martin Scorsese.

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:34 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, that's right clem

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link

(He needs four to tie and five to go ahead, right?)

Hmm, I thought he had five Masters wins, but he only has four. Hmm.

That's why they call me (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link

docked 1 for skank iirc

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i definitely think tiger will pass jack, probably by 2016 or so

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i agree w/that

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been trying to think of a baseball player near Tiger's level who lost it overnight, and I'm having a hard time--McGwire, sort of, with some obvious extenuating circumstances. Maybe CAD can come up with somebody. Overnight baseball collapses are usually just explainable in terms of age. And, obscured by all his other problems, age is something Tiger has to contend with--I don't think a lot of majors have been won past 40, and he's getting close.

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Masters is by far my favorite major. I like the others too, but Augusta is just an immaculate course.

That's why they call me (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link

He'll be 40 in 2015, but if he rebounds he's the type of player who could do really well on the other side of 40.

That's why they call me (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link

him almost winning today means that he still might be able to win a few masters since he's dominated that course over time but we'll see what happens when the courses change

J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been trying to think of a baseball player near Tiger's level who lost it overnight, and I'm having a hard time--McGwire, sort of, with some obvious extenuating circumstances. Maybe CAD can come up with somebody. Overnight baseball collapses are usually just explainable in terms of age. And, obscured by all his other problems, age is something Tiger has to contend with--I don't think a lot of majors have been won past 40, and he's getting close.

― clemenza, Sunday, April 10, 2011 7:41 PM (1 minute ago)

haha well my mother has always been convinced tiger has been on roids and his recent fall-off has fit her little narrative well, or so she thinks

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link

most great players have won A major past the age of 40 but it's not like a common thing even for someone of tiger's caliber

J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link

That's why the missed eagle putt bothers me; the thing about older golfers is that they get the yips.

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link

i almost brought up manny ramirez like 30 mins ago, that's pretty much what i was thinking of

J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Your mom may want to look at Mickelson. Dude's WAY too big for a golfer.

That's why they call me (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i'm thinking he can win 1 or 2 more masters, plus iirc the british will be at st andrews in 2015 - that's a win - depending on where his game goes he could do it very easily or it could take him until he's 43 but i don't really doubt he's gonna do it

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

i think phil is just a big dude -- he used to be a kinda fat and out of shape but i think he's just toned himself over the years

J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

(Oh yeah, I don't really think Phil is on steroids.)

That's why they call me (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link

According to the article below, only five guys over 40 have won a major: Nicklaus, Floyd, Irwin, Boros, and some guy I've never heard of.

http://www.lakeprofile.com/2010/03/winning-golf-lake-ozark/

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link

everyone itt should read this http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/02/20/pushing-back-time/

We’ve covered this at some length with Tiger. People want to believe that golf allows players to stay great well into their 40s … which can be true, but mostly isn’t true. Yes, every now and again a golfer like Mark O’Meara or Vijay Singh will emerge in their 40s. Yes, every now and again a full-fledged old golfer will have a magical week — like Watson at Turnberry (though, sadly, he did not win). But the average age for major winners since 1970 is 32. Golfers rarely win major championships after age 36. Time can steal a golfer’s nerve, putting steadiness and consistency for four days, and his audacity on Sundays. Something may have clicked in Tiger Woods’ swing, and he might indeed start winning consistently again. Like I say: I hope so. But I don’t think so. I think the decline has begun.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link

it's more about de-rek je-ter than tiger, but pertinent

J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Lots of guys come w/in a few strokes, though. Tom Watson was just 1 stroke away from taking the British two years ago. xps

That's why they call me (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:49 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm not a scholar of golf history but i also want to say that it's probably harder to win now than when it was in the 70s -- i.e. how many charl schwartzels were there in the 70s? like random 26 year old south africans that can just rise up and snatch a major from one of the all time greats? there was like 5 charl schwartzels today alone, he just happened to win

J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:49 (thirteen years ago) link

phil still pretty fat tbf

standard of golfers has jumped too, in terms of the strengths tiger had over the field when he emerged. kind of jordan's point xp

hmm

maybe i'm not so positive he'll do it. but i don't think today as evidence that he won't, it was a storming round.

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd more suprised if Tiger doesn't eclipse Nicklaus than if he does, even if it takes him past 40 to do it.

Good point about the wealth of young talent and the current golf era, though. Tiger was sort of anomaly when he came up, but now there are 50 Tigers.

That's why they call me (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:52 (thirteen years ago) link

clemenza you've never heard of mark o'meara? or gary player? or lee trevino? or ben hogan? or vijay singh? or tom kite? or sam snead? c'mon man

balls, Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I think these horrible two years have helped him in one weird way: they made him mortal, and the gallerys are with him again. If he'd come out winning after his implosion, I think the gallerys would have gotten worse and stayed that way.

All the golfers you mention were great...but did they win a major past the age of 40? I was going by the article.

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I just don't know if tiger can regain that mental headspace he had before the life crash

skahchivan (dayo), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Checking Player, he won a PGA at 43, so either I misread the article or their research is shoddy. So good point.

clemenza, Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link

nicklaus won 3 majors in his 40s after not winning any tournaments for a little under two years fwiw; i have enough doubt that i wouldn't put money on tiger passing him (esp since i don't think i'd be getting great odds) but at the same time he's not david duval just yet, let's not be too quick to write him off.

balls, Monday, 11 April 2011 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Hogan won three at 41, O'Meara won two at 41, Trevino won at 45, Singh at 41, Kite at 43, Snead at 41. What the hell are those people talking about?

clemenza, Monday, 11 April 2011 00:02 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah who would've thought that information from lakeprofile.com might not have been totally accurate

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 April 2011 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Damn--I'm now starting to question their big "E Actually Equals MC-cubed" article from last month.

clemenza, Monday, 11 April 2011 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link

the thing about tiger that confuses everybody is that the "decline" is so closely tied to that kneee injury he had and his whole life meltdown--like if those hadn't happened it's v. hard to believe he would have had such a shit year+--there is an intrinsic belief that he can get back on track, but this season and next will have to have some signs of life in them.

call all destroyer, Monday, 11 April 2011 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

btw i love tiger and will be rooting for his resurgence

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 April 2011 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I started a thread on that last year--trying to separate the personal meltdown from the physical problems from the fact that he was already showing signs of decline when he blew his first Sunday lead at a major to Yang Yong-eun. It's very complicated to parse them out. Throw in possible PED use and it's even more complicated.

clemenza, Monday, 11 April 2011 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i remember that thread--it's a complicated question for sure.

call all destroyer, Monday, 11 April 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link

i just wonder if he'll ever be able to get his fundamentals straight on a consistent basis

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 April 2011 00:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I kinda figure anybody on the tour has the physical skills necessary to win 100% of the time

skahchivan (dayo), Monday, 11 April 2011 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link

well tiger's problems are not physical

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 April 2011 00:15 (thirteen years ago) link

technical, maybe mental

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 April 2011 00:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean the thing about golf is that to win you need to be incredibly consistent in performing the same actions hundreds of times over the course of the tournament, where your margin of error is probably less than 2%. getting back to that kind of mindset after his meltdown...

skahchivan (dayo), Monday, 11 April 2011 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link

like that was what made tiger frightening before the crash - his maniacal day-in-day-out consistency. if he's ever able to put together that mental state again I have no doubt he'll be winning into his 40s and maybe even 50s.

skahchivan (dayo), Monday, 11 April 2011 00:18 (thirteen years ago) link

There was a physical element involved--he won his last major hobbling around the course, then went in for knee surgery and time off afterwards. I don't know if that's still a lingering factor or not.

clemenza, Monday, 11 April 2011 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link

hah that kinda proves my point - he was in such a zone last time that he was able to win with bone-on-bone grinding in his knee. I don't think any current injury is enough to physically prevent him from winning, rather it's if he lets it influence his psyche, then that's another matter.

skahchivan (dayo), Monday, 11 April 2011 00:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Here's the thread from last year:

Tiger: Why?

Sounds like you would have been a 100%-mental vote.

clemenza, Monday, 11 April 2011 00:25 (thirteen years ago) link

oh no doubt - the short game is where you win championships, and that's where physical issues matter least.

lol, actually I posted in that - search for 'dyao'

skahchivan (dayo), Monday, 11 April 2011 00:29 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah that's the thing too - i appreciate appealing to history which tells us players rarely win into their 40s, but tiger is not like other players - his skills, his athleticism, his nerve, he's an anomaly and always will be xps

k3vin k., Monday, 11 April 2011 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Found it--very consistent. (And right below you, someone quotes a long passage from Posnanski!)

Good point. Tiger rewrote what was possible for a golfer under 35, so history may not be a good guide for what he does after 35.

clemenza, Monday, 11 April 2011 00:33 (thirteen years ago) link

the single-minded focus on history & stats is probably my least favorite part of sports journalism (lol as if there were any good parts) - history predicts things until it doesn't.

skahchivan (dayo), Monday, 11 April 2011 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd be completely fine with it if the guys appearing from nowhere didn't always seem like boring assholes!

Boring assholes are good at golf, whatcanyoudo? It's like motorsports in that regard. Also, boring assholes + attractive women, they seem made to go together in that world

Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, 11 April 2011 09:39 (thirteen years ago) link

clemenza; didn't Big Papi drop off very suddenly as well?

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link

From what I could tell Tiger's short game was really bad, which seems to be a focus problem, but otherwise he looked awesome. When he was dominating though he wouldn't miss half as many putts and obviously it all added up in the end. The only real reason why I doubted Tiger was because Posnanski wrote some very convincing articles on why you should. I don't really like him but still kind of want him to pass Jack just for the story

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 13:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, the convienience stores here now stock three different kinds of "Arnold Palmer" drinks, one of them has this drawing of a 40-ish Palmer chilling near a tree with his drink and his dog, golf clubs on the porch; I can't think of a more badass can

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 13:56 (thirteen years ago) link

this cuts out the golf clubs but you get the picture

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj911mxJHX1qz8k23o1_500.jpg

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been trying to think of a baseball player near Tiger's level who lost it overnight, and I'm having a hard time--McGwire, sort of, with some obvious extenuating circumstances. Maybe CAD can come up with somebody. Overnight baseball collapses are usually just explainable in terms of age. And, obscured by all his other problems, age is something Tiger has to contend with--I don't think a lot of majors have been won past 40, and he's getting close.

― clemenza, Sunday, April 10, 2011 7:41 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Dale Murphy. Steve Blass. Steve Sax. Mark Wohlers. Chuck Knoblach.Rick Ankiel (in pitcher incarnation).

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 11 April 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Woods has more majors than Nicklaus did at this age.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 11 April 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

And I just wanted to put my two cents in about Day's wife: fantastic.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 11 April 2011 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Ben Sheets?

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, aren't there pitchers who overnight suddenly can't hit the side of a barn door?

i think drake distracts (dayo), Monday, 11 April 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, see Blass, Wholers and Ankiel above. Also Sax and Knoblauch's demises were attributable to their inability to throw the ball from second to first.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 11 April 2011 14:15 (thirteen years ago) link

this seems to happen a lot to closers (except Mo, for whatever reason, God I hate him)

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Dale Murphy. Steve Blass. Steve Sax. Mark Wohlers. Chuck Knoblach.Rick Ankiel (in pitcher incarnation).

The operative words, though, were "near Tiger's level"--the only one of those guys where the description fits somewhat would be Murphy, and even that's a stretch. (Ditto Ortiz--and with him, PEDs again enter the picture.) There are probably countless numbers of lower-level players who lose it overnight.)

clemenza, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Name another guy in any sport, except for maybe Michael Jordan or Roger Federer or Babe Ruth, who were near Tiger's level. There are others, but your setting the bar kind of high there.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 11 April 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link

And guys in golf hit rough patches. Nicklaus went 11 years between Masters at one point. Woods had one off year. Let's not write obituaries yet.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 11 April 2011 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Favre 2009/Favre 2010?

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Hall of Fame level, then, which Murphy and Ortiz fall short of.

As I was arguing above, I'm on the fence with Tiger--even more so after yesterday.

clemenza, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Favre 2009/Favre 2010?

― frogbs, Monday, April 11, 2011 10:41 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

But he sucked from '07 - '09, then got rejuvenated in Minny. Plus he's nowhere near on Tiger's level.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 11 April 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not a football fan, but from what I know of Favre, that's an acceptable parallel for me in terms of level.

But in terms of falling apart overnight, wouldn't any drastic changes with him simply be explained by age? A 40-year-old football player is much more past his expiry date than a 35-year-old golfer.

clemenza, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link

xp I dunno, like you said it's hard to really pick anyone in any sport who dominated like Tiger, maybe Federer, maybe Pedro, I don't know. But Favre's 07 was actually really good (would have been a serious MVP candidate if not for Tom Brady), and his 08 season was great until the injury. He also could have won the MVP in 09. He definitely had it until just recently.

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Favre was terrible with the Jets in '08. I was at the last game against the Dolphins and he was booed out of the place.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 11 April 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link

The first 11 games he was playing well, and led them to an 8-3 record which was significant because they really did not have a whole lot of talent. For the last 5 games I thought it was revealed that he tore a rotator cuff or something and really should not have been playing, singlehandedly dogging the Jets season (even the one game they did win was only due to a monumental coaching blunder). I guess ultimately his Jets stint will be remembered for that, but when he was healthy he played at a pretty high level.

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

From what I could tell Tiger's short game was really bad, which seems to be a focus problem, but otherwise he looked awesome. When he was dominating though he wouldn't miss half as many putts and obviously it all added up in the end.

But the short game tells me everything (rightly or wrongly) about a golfer's frame of mind, a focus problem sounds lot more manageable and it isn't. And in the majors I've seen from Woods its been one terrible round, a couple of indifferent ones and then about a rounds worth of brilliant passages. He is incapable of that brand of ultra boring consistency that made such a dominant figure (of course its only a boring outcome but he is often electrifying).

So Mcilory did look like he could become the main obstacle to Woods getting over the 18 major line - you could see him establishing something that had a substance for a little while. And then we found out how it really was. The short game told. Felt awful for him, he's got his own line to cross now.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 11 April 2011 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

you didnt watch a lot of golf if you're characterizing the last 15 years of tigers career as "ultra-boring consistency"

k3vin k., Monday, 11 April 2011 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

He's saying the outcome was boring, not the play.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 April 2011 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

mcilroy's short game was not a problem - he didn't three-putt until like the 65th hole

tiger historically has had an incredible short game - aside from a couple of tough misses i wouldn't put the blame on this "loss" on his short game - he played well! he was keeping the ball in the fairway, was generally sticking it with his irons, he made some putts, he missed some putts - if he plays at anywhere near this level with any kind of consistency for the next 7 years or so passing jack will be easy as cake.

k3vin k., Monday, 11 April 2011 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

"that brand" would seem to imply that he was talking about tiger's style, but either way, rong xp

k3vin k., Monday, 11 April 2011 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link

i hope this creep never wins another major

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, 11 April 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

"if he plays at anywhere near this level with any kind of consistency for the next 7 years or so passing jack will be easy as cake."

I don't see it. I don't see this Tiger winning 5 majors playing this way (not accounting for age, etc.)

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 April 2011 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

"this way"?? he shot 67 on sunday and came in 4th!

k3vin k., Monday, 11 April 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

He shot a 74 on Saturday and came in 4th!

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 April 2011 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Winning FIVE majors in seven years is hard. You actually have to be A LOT better than everyone else to do it. I don't think he's at that level anymore and I'm dubious that he's going to get back there.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 April 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I think he can definitely win majors playing the way he did if things align well for him but I really doubt he's going to win 5 of them. Would be a great story and it would be nice to see him redeemed in the eyes of the public. Obviously I'm not supporting what he did, but he didn't break the law, the word "rape" wasn't involved, and his dong isn't all over the internet, and it's tough to really feel too bad for Elin considering she got nearly a billion dollar settlement. I mean people were "okay" with Kobe after he started winning again, why not Tiger?

p.s. before people jump on me I realize this culture is kind of stupid when it comes to "forgiving" athletes but this is pretty much how the media works

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean people were "okay" with Kobe after he started winning again, why not Tiger?

did anyone really "love" kobe?

a fort minor forest (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 11 April 2011 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah nobody loved Kobe before and nobody loves him now and only Lakers fans root for the Lakers.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 April 2011 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

People do!! I meet a lot of oddball fans who don't live in LA, who have never lived in LA, who are huge fans of Kobe for whatever reason, and obviously those who do live in LA love the guy, I mean for all his faults he's such a talent and works harder than pretty much everyone else in the league...it doesn't seem like he thinks about anything else other than basketball, which you gotta respect

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Wait do you mean "love" like think he's an amazing talent or "love" like I want to own his jersey and buy his album or whatever?

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 April 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link

"it doesn't seem like he thinks about anything else other than basketball, which you gotta respect"

Pretty sure he thinks about rape sometimes. Maybe not any more though.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 April 2011 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Wait do you mean "love" like think he's an amazing talent or "love" like I want to own his jersey and buy his album or whatever?

― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, April 11, 2011 5:44 PM (2 minutes ago)

ha i definitely know some kobe stans, it's kinda sad

k3vin k., Monday, 11 April 2011 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

and it's tough to really feel too bad for Elin considering she got nearly a billion dollar settlement.

i suspect she would still prefer that she hadn't been humiliated by her husband raw dogging sluts around the world while she stayed at home taking care of the kids

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, 11 April 2011 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link

What Tiger did in his personal life is of no concern to me whatsoever.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 11 April 2011 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I like watching the guy play, golf is much more entertaining when he's in contention.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 11 April 2011 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

the public eventually forgives & forgets infidelity (this extends far past sports as well) as long as you play the game "the right way"

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 April 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

no one likes kobe outside of l.a. other than a few people, though obv bron is the most disliked player in the game these days. gotta figure the nba is ecstatic over the emergence of derrick rose b/c they could use an across-the-board likable and charismatic superstar on one of the big teams.

omar little, Monday, 11 April 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

and as long as you butter up the press

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 April 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

rofl @ the idea of derrick rose as charismatic -- he has about as much personality as the statute they'll eventually erect for him outside of the united center

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 April 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

roehtlisberger is about a year or two away from his full fledged redemption tour

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 April 2011 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

tiger is basically a-rod for all of his awkward self-awareness and lack of enjoyment he gets out of the game when he's playing (in recent years at least)

omar little, Monday, 11 April 2011 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

the public eventually forgives & forgets infidelity (this extends far past sports as well) as long as you play the game "the right way"

― J0rdan S., Monday, April 11, 2011 5:51 PM (44 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

There's nothing for me to forgive. Not to sound heartless, but i dont want to butt into Tiger Woods' private life, just like I dont want him butting into mine. I think if you were to investigate every athlete's private life you'd be disappointed. All they are is entertainment to me, not any kind of role model.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 11 April 2011 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

he may boring enough that they'll erect a statute but i think his game and court presence is exciting and his personality (what little there may be of it!) comes off as likable enough. i mean michael jordan was a cement block too but i think in the end he realized how best to use his personality in conjunction w/his highlight reels.

omar little, Monday, 11 April 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

magill i wasn't addressing you when i said "the public"

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 April 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

you of all ppl

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 April 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

"ha i definitely know some kobe stans, it's kinda sad"

I'm sure there are a lot more Tiger stans though, I don't think it's a measure of forgiveness. Just some people are kinda weird.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 April 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

"his personality (what little there may be of it!) comes off as likable enough."

His interviews are really stilted and weird.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 April 2011 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

magill i wasn't addressing you when i said "the public"

― J0rdan S., Monday, April 11, 2011 5:57 PM (50 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
you of all ppl

― J0rdan S., Monday, April 11, 2011 5:58 PM (19 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah, i know.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 11 April 2011 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

If I can be completely inconsistent for a moment, I have to say I fucking hate Kobe Bryant.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 11 April 2011 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

kobe is a great villain & i resent the way his sins as a basketball player have been washed away by the media, but the guy's a straight assassin & for that i love him

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 April 2011 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link

also it was thrilling to have him on 'our' side for team USA

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 April 2011 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link

kobe is fun, def an amazing supervillain and just a heartless bastard in all likelihood, i'm sure he's murdered many people IRL as well as on the court but all of that makes him pretty awesome. i hate him but enjoy him.

omar little, Monday, 11 April 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Kobe's assassin persona would be a lot more enjoyable if he wasn't one the league's top whiners and floppers. He and Brandon Roy lead the league in mid-layup yelps.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 11 April 2011 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

rofl @ the idea of derrick rose as charismatic -- he has about as much personality as the statute they'll eventually erect for him outside of the united center

― J0rdan S., Monday, April 11, 2011 9:52 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark

so true. He has just about the most vacant expression during interviews that I've ever seen.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 11 April 2011 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

people who yelp are scumbags

omar little, Monday, 11 April 2011 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

If I see one more Kobe Bryant review of a "charming little bistro," I'm done with the NBA.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 11 April 2011 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah charismatic was totally the wrong word...i guess his in-game energy and "plays the game the right way" reputation and lack of villain status would be more appropriate positives for his marketing.

omar little, Monday, 11 April 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

i sorta feel like the nba conditions its stars to act that way -- once you get rewarded for a certain act 10,000 times in your life, you start to get pissy when you don't get that same reward every time? idk. for instance lebron & wade whine incessantly. dwight just got suspended for too many technicals. just sorta part of the territory imo.

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 April 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

his game is certainly flashy in terms how he finishes at the rim

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 April 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i really hate that about kobe how he's so used to getting all the calls his way that he bitches when the game is called fairly, but hey, that's the NBA...lebron does this too

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link

i suspect she would still prefer that she hadn't been humiliated by her husband raw dogging sluts around the world while she stayed at home taking care of the kids

well i'm sure she'd rather Tiger stayed faithful too but I think you're kidding yourself if you think there aren't a lot of people out there who are willing to accept getting cheated on for $750,000,000

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean obviously the situation is pretty horrible for her and I feel bad for her to some degree, but I think on the whole there are a lot of people who would definitely trade places with her right now

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

besides, marrying an athlete like Tiger is like singing Ron Artest or Manny Ramirez to a long contract...like, it can work out, but if things go sour it's not like you shouldn't have seen it coming

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 23:00 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpHOVO0aS1U

omar little, Monday, 11 April 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

ron is the athlete of our generation

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 April 2011 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link

omar I think the next nba superstar you're reaching for is kevin durant

i think drake distracts (dayo), Monday, 11 April 2011 23:08 (thirteen years ago) link

but yeah now that wade has the whiff of lebron-taint the nba needs a new superclean superstar

i think drake distracts (dayo), Monday, 11 April 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link

actually i agree w/ bethlehem shoals in that rose/bulls have overtaken durant/thunder as the young star/team that's the antithesis of the heat deathstar for ppl who want to root against them & what they 'represent'

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 April 2011 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link

so glad that you agree with a spammer

i think drake distracts (dayo), Monday, 11 April 2011 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

are you talking about frogbs

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 April 2011 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

durant would be w/o a doubt "the man" on certain teams but i think he's hurt by the fact that most people don't give a shit about the thunder.

omar little, Monday, 11 April 2011 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link

hahah no, 'bethlehem shoals' is a great name but I don't know who that is

i think drake distracts (dayo), Monday, 11 April 2011 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link

the thunder would have to make a huge playoff run for durant to enter the conversation. it's totally possible this year.

omar little, Monday, 11 April 2011 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

he's the dude that started freedarko xp

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 April 2011 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

"this way"?? he shot 67 on sunday and came in 4th!

― k3vin k., Monday, 11 April 2011 22:32 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

31 out, 36 back says more than "he shot 67" - you don't shoot 36 in the last 9 holes and win championships.

death, taxes and (onimo), Monday, 11 April 2011 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link

But if you shoot a 67 on the last 18 holes, sometimes you win championships.

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Monday, 11 April 2011 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link

And by the way ... of all of his major victories, 67 is actually the lowest he's ever shot on the last day. You can look it up!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_Woods

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Monday, 11 April 2011 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link

he did 3-putt 10 times right?

i don't think anyone's won a major 3-putting that many times

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 01:37 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i really hate that about kobe how he's so used to getting all the calls his way that he bitches when the game is called fairly, but hey, that's the NBA...lebron does this too

― frogbs, Monday, April 11, 2011 6:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Kobe: 5 rings
Lebron: lucky to even get ring around the fucking collar.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 13:41 (thirteen years ago) link

"his personality (what little there may be of it!) comes off as likable enough."

Comes across as a cunt in interviews.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link

i could see scenarios where the heat win it, they are playing well, celtics have fallen off since the perkins trade...

a fort minor forest (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link

he's the dude that started freedarko xp

― J0rdan S., Monday, April 11, 2011 6:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol freedarko? what's that?

FREE BIG PEK

a fort minor forest (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link

"his personality (what little there may be of it!) comes off as likable enough."

Comes across as a cunt in interviews.

― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, April 12, 2011 2:35 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I agree, the guy is a total douche. Great player, bad guy.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

i could see scenarios where the heat win it, they are playing well, celtics have fallen off since the perkins trade...

― a fort minor forest (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, April 12, 2011 2:37 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Win what, the first round of the Eastern Conference playoffs?

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I don't see them beating the Bulls, obviously the Heat are great but they really haven't shown an ability to compete with top-tier teams like the Bulls/Heat/Spurs/Celtics. Thought last month that the Celts would crush them in round 2 but they've really taken a dive.

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm not gonna say that the heat are going to beat the celtics or the bulls, but they're about even money with either team, maybe even odds on favorites over the celts now

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 April 2011 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

favs over the celts now, but I can't see them beating the Bulls

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link

if had to bet i would bet on the bulls but it's ridiculous to say the heat couldn't get super hot and win the whole thing

a fort minor forest (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

it's ridiculous to say that they couldn't beat them 4 times out of 7 when the two games they played in the regular season when both teams were healthy came down to the final shot

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I know it's possible but I can see the Heat get super-exposed during the playoffs; you can see the Bulls elevate their game in crunch-time while the Heat blow a lot of big leads, they just don't seem like they're built for the playoffs. Obviously anyone can win and with that much talent the Heat have a legit shot but it seems to me like they're going to struggle vs. any other top tier team. Like, I can believe the Bulls sweeping the Heat but don't see it happening the other way around.

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

idk bron and wade have plenty of experience in the playoffs w/ teams that are not that much more poorly composed than the current heat one. I could totally see them turning on 'the switch'

i think drake distracts (dayo), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:02 (thirteen years ago) link

x-factor might be spoelstra and how he matches up with thibodeau/rivers/pop/jax/karl/etc

omar little, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Will Tiger Woods' car/life crash factor in at all?

clemenza, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link

xxp well if this year is telling us anything it's that the Cavs teams of the last two years definitely were not just Lebron + a bunch of scrubs, 1 v. 5 basketball the way everyone in the media was making it sound. last years cavs > this year's heat so far.

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 12:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Will Tiger Woods' car/life crash factor in at all?

― clemenza, Tuesday, April 12, 2011 8:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

It's got a pretty good low post game, and a decent midrange jumper. Problems with foul trouble though could make it a non-factor.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link

wait frogbs, what about this year's cavs???

i think drake distracts (dayo), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link

They built around Lebron so it's no surprise they collapsed after they left. Pretty much every move they made was based around him; like, not to understate the guy's talent at all, but all they really have left are role players, plus they don't even really have the same starting lineup as last year at all. the regular season records have to mean SOMETHING...

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Vintage!

clemenza, Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

yea sick shot
rory & levin look shook, im sure ppl will say cuz of tigers presence or w/e but theyre both just off the last few holes

johnny crunch, Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

a splendid shot

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

perfect tee shot and approach, he's got a very makeable putt for another birdie here too

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

levin did it again!

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

did you guys see that putt from either yesterday or friday - had a 7 or 8 footer, turned away as soon as he struck the ball because he thought he missed it, only the ball circled the hole about 1.5 times and dropped

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link

Great drive by Sabatini...playoff, maybe.

clemenza, Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

Not now...

clemenza, Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, I wasn't shy with my opinions in this thread when it all hit the fan...

Trey Imaginary Songz (WmC), Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

that'll do it

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

didnt even need the hole out on 16 considering all these other jokers ffs

johnny crunch, Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

Such a great camera shot of Nicklaus in line with Tiger on the green. Loved when he walked over and Nicklaus replayed the shot at 16 for him; big Tiger grin + "How 'bout that?"

clemenza, Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

oh man, rory really gave that a chance. lands that 12 inches shorter and there's some real drama

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link

man, levin's just totally dejected. poor dude. at least he gets jack nicklaus to console him!

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago) link

Two "b"s in Sabbatini--must have had her on my mind:

http://media2.intoday.in/indiatoday/images/stories/gaby_350_022612025319.jpg

clemenza, Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago) link

hard to blame you

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

"I'd say anything inside of six feet would be a wonderful shot."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyKu9mcHP3w

clemenza, Monday, 4 June 2012 04:20 (twelve years ago) link

seven months pass...

Wait, what?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 January 2013 03:54 (eleven years ago) link

mazel tov

Bel-Air the Fresh Prince, sitting in a chair (DJP), Friday, 18 January 2013 04:01 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i definitely think tiger will pass jack, probably by 2016 or so

― k3vin k., Sunday, April 10, 2011 7:38 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i agree w/that

― call all destroyer, Sunday, April 10, 2011 7:39 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hmmm there's still time i guess

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Friday, 18 January 2013 04:08 (eleven years ago) link

not looking so good now haha

fiscal cliff paul (k3vin k.), Friday, 18 January 2013 04:18 (eleven years ago) link

hes been good tho, he did make like ~$6M in earnings last yr iirc, just not on sat/sundays of majors

johnny crunch, Friday, 18 January 2013 04:21 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

I know Tiger's playing well right now, and he'll probably win today, but I laughed when I read Michael Bamberger on cnnsi.com this morning:

"On Sunday, make sure to set your clocks ahead an hour and your time machine back a decade or more. Tiger Woods looks primed for a monster year.

In January, he won at Torrey Pines for the 75th time as a pro. On Sunday, he'll win at Doral for the fourth time. Next month at Augusta, he'll win the Masters for the fifth time. Who's going to beat him?"

He does go on to qualify that in the next paragraph, but still. I think it's the same guy who wrote something equally silly going into last year's Masters. Winning majors is really hard!

clemenza, Sunday, 10 March 2013 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that's insane, you can't predict golf with any certainty.

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Sunday, 10 March 2013 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

bet you a million rory wont win it

darrrrggghhh daylight savings (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 March 2013 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

The thing is, Tiger's now on the other side of a psychological divide that he used to work to his advantage. Ten years ago, it didn't much matter how well anyone else was playing going into a major, because winning majors is different. Now--until he manages to win another one--it doesn't much matter how well Tiger is playing going into a major, because winning majors is different.

clemenza, Sunday, 10 March 2013 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

he really tried to make it interesting on 18 huh

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 March 2013 23:21 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/13/tiger-woods-lindsey-vonn-romantic-week-yacht_n_2869112.html

tiger doing that thing where every girl he dates after his ex looks like his ex

乒乓, Thursday, 14 March 2013 11:55 (eleven years ago) link

Easy to jump to conclusions I know, but drunk? Hope he's okay anyhow.

― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Friday, November 27, 2009 2:52 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i never stop being amused by how this thread begins. "drunk driving?" actually seemed like the most cynical scenario to imagine at some point!

some dude, Thursday, 14 March 2013 12:31 (eleven years ago) link

8 wins @ bay hill

tiger plays really well in fla

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 01:52 (eleven years ago) link

i think tiger woods literally draws all his power from sleeping with blonde white women

乒乓, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 01:54 (eleven years ago) link

who doesn't

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 02:03 (eleven years ago) link

explains a lot

mookieproof, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 02:06 (eleven years ago) link

has won 6 times in last 20 events hes entered, p impressive

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 02:29 (eleven years ago) link

from tom chick: "Electronic Arts is releasing a new Tiger Woods game. I follow just enough sports to know it’s probably a dating sim."

s.clover, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 02:35 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

*applause*

brony james (k3vin k.), Monday, 15 April 2013 00:54 (eleven years ago) link

hushed, polite applause.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 April 2013 01:00 (eleven years ago) link

*drunk guy yelling 'get in the hole!'*

mookieproof, Monday, 15 April 2013 01:02 (eleven years ago) link

hahahaha

frogbs, Monday, 15 April 2013 01:02 (eleven years ago) link

lol

brony james (k3vin k.), Monday, 15 April 2013 01:04 (eleven years ago) link

"Columnist Mark Cannizzarro says he should have withdrawn."

乒乓, Monday, 15 April 2013 11:53 (eleven years ago) link

that was the worst meme floated by commentators and golfers all weekend

The Great Forgiver (dandydonweiner), Monday, 15 April 2013 14:07 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

One back. Time to turn on the TV.

clemenza, Saturday, 15 June 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

Four back--misread the leaderboard online. Guess I'll leave the TV on anyway, watch some of the other golfers.

clemenza, Saturday, 15 June 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

how is he 1 back? you mean 4? ok yea

there is still not much scoring out there 2day

johnny crunch, Saturday, 15 June 2013 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

v makeable putt on 17 to get to -10 > then birdie 18 = 59

johnny crunch, Friday, 2 August 2013 20:35 (ten years ago) link

Is this the course he was griping about, re: slow greens?

things are going to get better or worse (WilliamC), Friday, 2 August 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link

oh well, 60 or 61 is a p good score also

johnny crunch, Friday, 2 August 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

Happy fifth anniversary?

http://deadspin.com/5496451/sexting-tiger-threatened-to-slap-spank-bite-and-fuck-till-mercy/1664114898/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 27 November 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link

Funny haha thread this one

Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 November 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

"During a crush of photographers as the awards podium at the World Cup event in Italy, a media member with a shoulder-mounted video camera pushed and surged toward the stage, turned and hit Tiger Woods in the mouth," Mark Steinberg of Excel Sports said in an email. "Woods' tooth was knocked out by the incident."

brimstead, Monday, 19 January 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

Shot 85 at the Memorial yesterday, his worst round since joining the tour. And he's won that tournament five times.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/golf/33036057

clemenza, Sunday, 7 June 2015 12:40 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...
five months pass...

this is incredibly sad

Tiger Woods on his future in golf: 'There’s nothing I can look forward to'

The most bleak prognosis yet regarding a return to competitive golf for Tiger Woods has arrived from the man himself.

Woods is currently in the midst of recovery from a third operation on the same area of his back, with the 39-year-old admitting on Tuesday he has no idea if or when he will play again. Serious doubts have to remain over Woods’s career continuing at all, especially given his previously upbeat sentiment.

When asked about a timescale for any return, Woods replied: “I have no answer for that. Neither does my surgeon or my physio. There is no timetable.

“That’s the hardest part for me. There is nothing I can look forward to, nothing I can build towards. Where is the light at the end of the tunnel? I don’t know.”

Woods also admitted the extent to which he can exercise, which hasn’t included any golf activity at all. “I walk,” said the 14-time major winner. “And I walk and I walk some more.

“I am really good at playing video games. Really good. I swear, that’s basically how I pass a lot of my time.

“I have to reset the clock every day and say, ‘Here we go, this is a new day. Lets take it for what it is.’ I listen to my surgeon, I listen to my physios and we just take it day by day. Hopefully the day by day adds up to something positive here, soon.”

Woods underwent the three surgeries within just 19 months, the most recent of which was in late October. The worst season of his professional career culminated at the Wyndham Championship in August.

Woods is spending this week in the Bahamas, where his foundation is the tournament host of the Hero World Challenge. He has already been named as a vice-captain of the United States Ryder Cup team for the meeting with Europe at Hazeltine next September.

“I’ve had a pretty good career for my 20s and 30s,” he said.

“For my 20 years out here, I think I’ve achieved a lot, and if that’s all it entails, then I’ve had a pretty good run. But I’m hoping that’s not it. I’m hoping that I can get back out here and compete against these guys. I really do miss it.”

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 09:49 (eight years ago) link

feels like a foregone conclusion that this guy would end up in a pretty bleak place but yeah not a fun read.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 13:55 (eight years ago) link

He should become a professional gamer! I believe him when he says he's really good.

badg, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 16:12 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/15278522/how-tiger-woods-life-unraveled-years-father-earl-woods-death?src=longreads

nice piece. bit overdone at times but some crazy stuff in there. never knew about his obsession with the military.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 22 April 2016 14:14 (eight years ago) link

that opening animation is...powerful

nashwan, Friday, 22 April 2016 15:07 (eight years ago) link

that opening animation is a bit overdone at times

Karl Malone, Friday, 22 April 2016 15:18 (eight years ago) link

if you see it without any other context, with the words "the secret history of tiger woods", i think you'd assume that tiger woods is secretly funding warlords or something

Karl Malone, Friday, 22 April 2016 15:19 (eight years ago) link

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2016/0420/r75852_2_1296x1029cc.jpg

Karl Malone, Friday, 22 April 2016 15:34 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

on charlie rose he said his only regret is not going to his sr yr @ stanford

johnny crunch, Friday, 21 October 2016 23:14 (seven years ago) link

one more than gw bush, i guess

mookieproof, Friday, 21 October 2016 23:34 (seven years ago) link

I love Tiger and hope he succeeds again at golf by getting back in the hunt.

Spottie, Friday, 21 October 2016 23:44 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

http://i.imgur.com/uc685jC.jpg

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 02:32 (seven years ago) link

Imposter. Facial hair a dead giveaway

Spottie, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 03:23 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBAUiqAVoAA8jCP.jpg

mookieproof, Monday, 29 May 2017 15:52 (seven years ago) link

wow man

k3vin k., Monday, 29 May 2017 15:58 (seven years ago) link

Not sure if look like the best version of myself at 3 am mugshot time tbf

D'mnuchin returns (darraghmac), Monday, 29 May 2017 16:05 (seven years ago) link

^^^^

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 29 May 2017 16:06 (seven years ago) link

still driving on the ambien i see

-_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 May 2017 17:00 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBF0yqsUwAEIg1g.jpg:large

Spottie, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 20:01 (seven years ago) link

No alcohol involved btw.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 May 2017 20:02 (seven years ago) link

so it was prescription drugs and he was found asleep at the wheel. he says "unexpected reaction" of drugs but my heart says "driving high af on opiates"

-_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 30 May 2017 20:03 (seven years ago) link

yeah he is clearly banjaxed on some serious downers there

heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 May 2017 20:08 (seven years ago) link

The guy has to be on a barrel load of painkillers tbf.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 May 2017 20:08 (seven years ago) link

six months pass...

could he be... back?

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 1 December 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

MF sank an incredible putt on da 17th

zalstarz (calstars), Sunday, 11 March 2018 22:02 (six years ago) link

he's back baby

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Monday, 12 March 2018 19:25 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

Perhaps they should wait and see if he can win today.

http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/2018/09/23/tiger-woods-2018-masters-betting-favorite/

I don't take it seriously, but that's quite insane.

clemenza, Sunday, 23 September 2018 13:24 (five years ago) link

That walk up 18 was something to see.

clemenza, Sunday, 23 September 2018 22:01 (five years ago) link

in this #metoo age in which we live, it sometimes feels good to say what we're actually really thinking: CONGRATULATIONS Tiger on your golfing game victory!!!

del griffith, Sunday, 23 September 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link

four months pass...

Major ugh.

Great morning at Trump National Golf Club in Jupiter, Florida with @JackNicklaus and @TigerWoods! pic.twitter.com/mdPN4yvS8e

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 2, 2019

clemenza, Monday, 4 February 2019 03:50 (five years ago) link

Sad but no surprise

marcos smart (Spottie), Monday, 4 February 2019 04:13 (five years ago) link

I wonder if Jack sleeps around.

Xtra sad that it has nothing to do with golf. Just feel like hanging around a famous blowhard tell some lies.

nicky lo-fi, Monday, 4 February 2019 04:51 (five years ago) link

Trump almost as large as Christie now by the looks of that pic

Zelda Zonk, Monday, 4 February 2019 05:16 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

This morning @LMTLASD responded to a roll-over collision in which @TigerWoods was injured. Please see our statement... pic.twitter.com/cSWOxKZC1w

— LA County Sheriffs (@LASDHQ) February 23, 2021

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 19:33 (three years ago) link

bold font and colour choices from the la county sheriffs there

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link

Again, wow. When I looked into it, came across this--which was posted two days ago.

https://www.golfmagic.com/pga-tour/tiger-woods-looked-absolutely-fried-cbs-interview-about-masters

"Tiger Woods looks like he’s coming off a two week bender."

clemenza, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 19:38 (three years ago) link

i guess I didn't think that interview was bad? he looked tired, but he's coming off back surgery, he certainly wasn't incoherent.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 19:42 (three years ago) link

I do think of the phrase "car/life crash" often

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 19:43 (three years ago) link

I didn't watch it, was just struck by the proximity of that phrase and this news.

clemenza, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 19:44 (three years ago) link

Story updated with statement from Woods' agent Mark Steinberg:

"Tiger Woods was in a single-car accident this morning in California where he suffered multiple leg injuries. He is currently in surgery and we thank you for your privacy and support."

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 19:49 (three years ago) link

You're welcome, and I will endeavor to maintain my privacy.

Please Hammer Stop Hurting 'Em (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 19:51 (three years ago) link

i like how the sheriff's department @'ed him

superdeep borehole (harbl), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:01 (three years ago) link

all sympathy for people with addictions issues but he really needs to stop driving around full of pills

himpathy with the devil (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:03 (three years ago) link

hes a billionaire he should have never drive ever

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:55 (three years ago) link

ok if he wins another Masters after this I'll be impressed

frogbs, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:02 (three years ago) link

Not passing any judgment on someone obviously struggling with addiction issues, but it boggles my mind when people that rich don't hire people to drive them around.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:11 (three years ago) link

Maybe he enjoys driving?

I'm Going to Bring a Watermelon to Mark Grout Tonight (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:31 (three years ago) link

First we RIP Rush now we car crash Tiger. Can't wait to see what next week is going to bring.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:37 (three years ago) link

In surgery, I'd imagine he's going to done playing golf

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:45 (three years ago) link

Competitively, at least, sounds highly doubtful. Hard to imagine him not golfing, but I can think of other equally driven and competitive athletes who seemed to adjust okay post-retirement. I hope he has full mobility.

clemenza, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 22:30 (three years ago) link

Might be a silver lining if that chase for majors gets taken off him tbh

e-skate to the chapeau (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 22:38 (three years ago) link

yeah I meant competitively

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 22:39 (three years ago) link

When the first crash happened, way upthread I was one of a couple of people who still thought he had a decent chance to catch Nicklaus (about 25%, I said). I was fixated on the scandal, and seriously underestimated his physical problems. In the end, it was something of a miracle he managed to win one more.

clemenza, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 22:43 (three years ago) link

Yeah agreed

e-skate to the chapeau (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 22:44 (three years ago) link

compound leg fracture and shattered ankle

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 02:13 (three years ago) link

Seemingly no impairment, that's good news. He was speeding, though (on what's supposed to be a bad stretch of road), and there are obviously unanswered questions.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 15:28 (three years ago) link

i dunno, sometimes it's all just random. people are kind of obsessed with blaming someone or something for a car crash. maybe he was tired and dozed off. slick patch of road, who knows?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 15:35 (three years ago) link

Someone else, I'd agree, but it's hard to separate this from his past troubles, or from that story I linked to above. If it's just driving, at the very least he doesn't seem to be a very good driver.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 15:38 (three years ago) link

.....

e-skate to the chapeau (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link

i dunno, sometimes it's all just random. people are kind of obsessed with blaming someone or something for a car crash. maybe he was tired and dozed off. slick patch of road, who knows?


yeah I thought the whole “no sign of substance abuse thing” to be weird and tabloidy but I’m sure someone can explain why it’s good or proper that they bring it up

brimstead, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link

Meanwhile Nick Faldo is turning into *Mark Kermode.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/former-pga-tour-player-sir-nick-faldo-reacts-to-tiger-woods-car-accident/#x

(*apologies to non-UK ILXors who will have no idea who am I talking about)

I'm Going to Bring a Watermelon to Mark Grout Tonight (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:37 (three years ago) link

check out those sidies!

calzino, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:40 (three years ago) link

I’m sure someone can explain why it’s good or proper that they bring it up

it may not be good or proper, but the public mind quickly connects celebrities and drug/alcohol addiction, especially when a single car accident is involved. reporters knew this question would arise whether they mentioned it or not, and they tried to both answer it and simultaneously dismiss it, which seems like a net positive compared to the alternative of letting the question linger.

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:41 (three years ago) link

it's not just any celebrity, it's a guy who's underwent a ton of surgeries and memorably got a DUI while zonked out on Ambien

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link

Just heard a doctor graphically describe Woods' injuries (bones pierced the skin) and conclude they were "very serious, possibly devastating."

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 19:34 (three years ago) link

(Not a doctor from the operating room, one who was going by what's known.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 19:35 (three years ago) link

I’m just always horrified when these things happen but I can understand the tmz celeb gossip thing

brimstead, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 19:43 (three years ago) link

ugh that sounded really “patting myself on the back” + patronizing, sorry

brimstead, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 19:43 (three years ago) link

Good, no charges.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/24/us/tiger-woods-car-accident-wednesday-intl-spt/index.html

When I suggested "unanswered questions" above, I really didn't mean anything sinister. Falling asleep at the wheel is exactly the kind of thing I was thinking about--that in and of itself raises questions about why he'd be driving and how good a driver he is.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 20:42 (three years ago) link

accidents happen to "good drivers" every day, thousands of them

nick faldo said he was going to photo shoot

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link

As the very least, as I understand it, he was speeding--which to me rules out good driving.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 22:59 (three years ago) link

I'm one of the top 10 best drivers in the country and I speed all the time

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:01 (three years ago) link

Two-car accidents happen to good drivers all the time, for sure--you're on the wrong end of someone else's bad driving. A one-car accident where the weather's not a factor, it seems unlikely to me that he's blameless. He could be swerving to avoid an animal--if that were the case, then I don't blame him. But I put speeding, texting, and/or getting behind the wheel when you're too tired to drive all under bad driving.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:07 (three years ago) link

As a former school bus driver, I have fairly exacting standards for "good driving", which could be briefly summed up as 'There is no good driving which is not also safe driving'.

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:15 (three years ago) link

Falling asleep at the wheel is exactly the kind of thing I was thinking about

The car Woods was driving, a Genesis GV80 loaned to him by the manufacturer that sponsored the tournament last weekend, has an interior camera that alerts the driver if they're falling asleep:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2021/02/24/genesis-gv-80-tiger-woods-car-accident-suv-safety/4573081001/

Lee626, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:31 (three years ago) link

well you all make good points glad this piece of shit got his legs broke

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:41 (three years ago) link

I'm sure you know this, but that's not even remotely what I mean. I've always been a huge fan, as most of this thread makes clear. Just suggesting that there's likely more to this than a simple bad-luck accident. We may never know. There are no charges and seemingly no desire to investigate, and since no other driver is involved, and his life has been irrevocably damaged, I think that's a good call.

clemenza, Thursday, 25 February 2021 00:00 (three years ago) link

Sorry to press the point--I have a particular animus towards speeders in everyday life.

clemenza, Thursday, 25 February 2021 00:01 (three years ago) link

nine months pass...

First news I've heard in months.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/29/golf/tiger-woods-full-time-golf-over-spt/index.html

clemenza, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 00:22 (two years ago) link

I thought he was basically picking and choosing when the accident happened.

clemenza, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 00:23 (two years ago) link

Would be shocked to ever see him playing again tbh. Dude now has more major surgeries than major titles

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 00:34 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

alright, consider me shocked.

frogbs, Sunday, 10 April 2022 02:34 (two years ago) link

ten months pass...

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