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― unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:03 (fourteen years ago) link
fucking hell
― sleeve, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:08 (fourteen years ago) link
what clothing company is that for?
― sleeve, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:09 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFj3FJlBT8Q
― unified theory of objectionable thoughts (latebloomer), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:10 (fourteen years ago) link
that commercial : /
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:10 (fourteen years ago) link
5 seconds after it ends a bunch of russian mob dudes come in blazing
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:12 (fourteen years ago) link
looool
― unified theory of objectionable thoughts (latebloomer), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:14 (fourteen years ago) link
That ad makes me want to cut off my own dick.
― uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:15 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.us.dockers.com/season/landing.aspx
― unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:15 (fourteen years ago) link
THERE WAS A TIME WHEN
― Matt P, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:15 (fourteen years ago) link
* Men * Women * Fit Guide * Man-ifesto
― unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:16 (fourteen years ago) link
dos equis most interesting man commercials to thread
xp btw Hoot thinking that thought makes you cRaZy
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:16 (fourteen years ago) link
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh thank you for bringing this to my attention
― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:17 (fourteen years ago) link
dos equis ads are at least pretty tongue-in-cheek
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:17 (fourteen years ago) link
http://contexts.org/socimages/tag/gender-masculinity/
― harbl, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Holding Doors Open For Women
― uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:20 (fourteen years ago) link
being a man is about being a good human being imo
― Matt P, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:21 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe dockers will help u
this makes me think of some of the things Susan Faludi talks about in her book Stiffed, which is like ten years old now, about how men were the next great unexploited fashion/beauty market.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Aren't Dockers for middle-aged fat-asses?
― uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:22 (fourteen years ago) link
idk but the point is to feel cool when you buy them
― sleeve, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:26 (fourteen years ago) link
― uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Tuesday, December 8, 2009 7:22 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
u are the target audience
― unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:33 (fourteen years ago) link
"actually -- little known historical fact that, when men were men, prior to disco, khakis were only worny by the ruggedest of bros"
Virtually the same style:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl6ZAXytvjY
― Cosmic Ugg (S-), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link
this is the point at which everybody who made "ironic" lol sexism joaks in the 90s & 00s now has to pay for it by gouging their eyes out and dancing on them
ow my eyes
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:02 (fourteen years ago) link
thank god i was an adolescent and actually sexist, whew
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:04 (fourteen years ago) link
that khakis ad is so preposterous i cannot imagine taking it srsly on any level
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:04 (fourteen years ago) link
the real question it poses--when will derisive "latte" comments become passe?
when will it be ok for men to eat salad again? how do you guys live on these all steak diets
― harbl, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:06 (fourteen years ago) link
just had my 17th heart attack tbh
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:07 (fourteen years ago) link
i had a (bison) steak AND a salad for dinner tonight i will have you know
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:08 (fourteen years ago) link
so you are like 50% man now
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:10 (fourteen years ago) link
killed a man, too
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:10 (fourteen years ago) link
This does remind me of a thread i wanted to start, about how the only time I ever use the phrase "men" or "women" seems to involve marketing pitches for Boomers, or gay bars. It's like "Magazine for Men" or "Bars for Men" I automatically equate to "gay-targeted". I mean, almost all of the males I ever encountered above the age of 18 fall into the category of "dudes," "guys", "fellas", "bros", or "homies".
I worked with a guy who talked about how they'd go on a "men's retreat" every year, which was pretty much just a chance to head out to the Oregon deserts and bro down with buddies with dune buggies.
― kingfish, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:10 (fourteen years ago) link
stole his salad
wait so is driving dune buggies in the OR desert w/yr "bros" a gay thing????
8[
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:11 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bQlSr9YjLc
here's to young white dudes and maybe firefighters can earn their way in maybe
― unforgivable Jaqness (tremendoid), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:13 (fourteen years ago) link
here's to assholes
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:14 (fourteen years ago) link
lol what is that music?
― Dan S, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:16 (fourteen years ago) link
gbx, what kind of fork did you eat with?
― uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:18 (fourteen years ago) link
if its plastic you're down to 45% man
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Psshaww I bet you enjoy eating salads
... with a PLASTIC FORK no doubt!
― lukevalentine, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:24 (fourteen years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, December 8, 2009 6:04 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark
i guess when derisive salad and disco comments become passe. which if judging by the durability of hairy lesbian comments = never.
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:24 (fourteen years ago) link
ha lol everyone already made that joke i see
xp
― lukevalentine, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:25 (fourteen years ago) link
No, it's a perfectly acceptable bros thing.
― kingfish, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:25 (fourteen years ago) link
that ad at the top is a take-you-aside-and-be-serious version of a bad standup routine
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Maybe you're not supposed to use utensils at all.
― uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:27 (fourteen years ago) link
this IS desert season btw, no better time to throw a few cases of natty ice in the F-150, hook up the dirtbikes and roll out to glamis or gordon's well and fuckin BRO. DOWN. BRODER.
― iiiijjjj, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:27 (fourteen years ago) link
that sounds awesome but i guess i'm not invited
― harbl, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:28 (fourteen years ago) link
bro if you're heading out pick up some burreets or a double-double for the noshage
― iiiijjjj, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:28 (fourteen years ago) link
It's not the activity I laughed at, it's the description of it as their "Man's Retreat"
― kingfish, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:29 (fourteen years ago) link
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Tuesday, December 8, 2009 8:08 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
you will pay for your crimes against bison btw
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:31 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i mean ultimately "males" are going to want to get together every so often and do dumb shit. there will probably never be a good name for this.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:32 (fourteen years ago) link
lol i almost made a "u ate ilx user m bison joke!" but too meta. glad he is here tho
f-you dockers, I'm never wearing pants again
― big darn deal (Z S), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:33 (fourteen years ago) link
tbf probably the worst dudes are ppl that wear kilts just like, on the street in the city or whatever
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link
politics?
― lukevalentine, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link
apparently suits and beards are the new masculinity
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link
new punchline:
ILM?
― unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link
lulz yeah
― lukevalentine, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link
not really bothered by kilts, girls are allowed to walk around in skirts so y notprobably wouldn't be friends with a kilter though
― harbl, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link
just don't wear the suit while walking to work
― bnw, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:37 (fourteen years ago) link
probably wouldn't be friends with a kilter though
right, exactly
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:38 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.goodmenbook.org/thebook.php
this thing is getting a lot of play atm and from an interview i heard w/ the filmmaker/compiler of stories it promises not to dovetail with most of the reductive trad bs above even though the trailer makes it seem like yes it will
― unforgivable Jaqness (tremendoid), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:16 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean for a lot of western men a large part of 'what is it to be a man?' is going to be a reaction to the image/'era' these ads are advancing but even within that orbit there's more interesting questions than whether to wear brut or aramis, how to make a proper toast etc
― unforgivable Jaqness (tremendoid), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I think at times the "be a MAN" schtick is kind of useful as a stand-in for "be an ADULT," -- something that's kind of useful in an era of prolonged childhood. I mean it's really fucking lame when it gets used as an excuse for retrograde attitudes or GQ-type marketing bullshit - where being a man is equated to being some kind of all around great guy with a perfect smile and a cool haircut.
But still, sometimes I find it helpful to say to myself "Be a man. Stop whining and pick yourself up," etc. even if that has hints of retrograde gender attitudes.
― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:28 (fourteen years ago) link
sorry, that was a little redundant
and then u put on yr dockers
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:35 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p55Hr8nIH_c
― precious presented by oprah and tyler perry based on a novel push b (Tape Store), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:36 (fourteen years ago) link
REAL MEN LOVE JESUS
― lukevalentine, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:43 (fourteen years ago) link
i am so completely blown away by this advertisement that i'm sort of speechless. we've got sexism, heterosexism, classism, reproductive futurism...
thank god i don't buy magazines and don't watch television. think i'd shoot myself.
― And now my dick is where? Oh, this is too rich (the table is the table), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Also Dockers mostly just make me think of soft-bellied midwestern IT guys.
― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:54 (fourteen years ago) link
i also think the "be a man" thing can have value, cuz i think of myself as a man, as a male being. it's part of my identity, and not just physiologically. by that i mean it helps constitute my sense of self. and "to be a man", in my mind, is behave and think in a responsible, compassionate, thoughtful and grown-up manner. in other words, as a positive member of the group i see myself as belonging to. in thinking this way, i don't think i'm in any way associating or aligning myself with retrograde/sexist/paternalist attitudes.
further, though i'm not a parent, i think "be a man" attaches itself to that idea-set. to be a man in this sense is to be a fit parent, partner and member of society. and i think that can be a good thing.
ads are still totally revolting
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 06:05 (fourteen years ago) link
to me these ads are just funny
― unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 07:01 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean, i guess offensive in some obvious ways as well, but they're so transparent
i'm not revolted by the sexism & vague homophobia, i'm revolted by the dumb dumb ass
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 07:08 (fourteen years ago) link
cuz yeah, it's more like mock sexism anyway
but the DUMB DUMB ASS
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 07:09 (fourteen years ago) link
it's slightly less offensive because it's so obviously aimed at guys that are actually pretty insecure, enough so in fact that they will buy a certain brand of khakis to help themselves feel secure in their manhood I guess
also easier to swallow the stupidity of it because of everyone's general reaction here, if yall had responded to this ad by saying "HELL YEAH I'M SICK OF THIS SALAD EATING QUEERS" then I would have been more put off / bewildered / saddened
― lukevalentine, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 07:14 (fourteen years ago) link
― And now my dick is where? Oh, this is too rich (the table is the table), Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:47 PM Bookmark
http://blogs.graphicdesignforum.com/mlenhart/archives/images/pat_on_the_back_1.jpg
― LA CANCION MAS PRETENCIOSA DEL MUNDO... (The Reverend), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 11:04 (fourteen years ago) link
― Karen Tregaskin, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 11:05 (fourteen years ago) link
So anyway, these discos where men were stripped of their khakis sound pretty fun
― Dark, promiscuous five-year-old (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhZyz0z2tHs
i'm all for this sort of thing, really ^^^^^^
― Karen Tregaskin, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 11:39 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i45.tinypic.com/s2f7r7.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_pNc5ILnrFTI/SQS4_ZJbcnI/AAAAAAAAA3Q/WIuyp4pCPNI/s1600-h/MitchumDeodorant.bmp
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i45.tinypic.com/34h77fa.jpg
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I...what?
― MPx4A, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link
You don't order it tall, venti, or mocha, like your old lady does.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:34 (fourteen years ago) link
haha i love that starbucks seems to be the #1 foil in these ads
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link
the #1 threat to american masculinity... is coffee from seattle
o i see you have a 'tall' coffee there... *derisive snort*
surely ordering a small coffee would make you a small-bladdered commie pinko anyway though
― MPx4A, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link
in my america coffee is weak, feminine and european
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:42 (fourteen years ago) link
in my america, when you want to wake up, you shoot someone, and if no ones around, you shoot yourself
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link
btw the best part of the dockers ad is the "shop women" punchline
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:44 (fourteen years ago) link
You don't order it tall, venti, or mocha, like your old lady does a homo.
― james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link
As if Italian words for coffee aren't masculine.
The marketing idea behind Dockers, which made Levi's hundreds of millions of dollars and is probably responsible for the casual-izing of American offices, wasn't about cool or sexy; it was about someone saying "nice pants" and letting your head be full of decisions about stuff more important than clothes. Long article from '97 on how they did it.
― Action Orientation (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:47 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-anwu6EOjw
Dockers commercial at 1:00.
― Action Orientation (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link
From Gladwell's article linked above:
The one ad in the "Nice Pants" campaign which isn't like the Bugle Boy spots is called "Motorcycle." In it a nice young man happens upon a gleaming Harley on a dark back street of what looks like downtown Manhattan. He strokes the seat and then, unable to contain himself, climbs aboard the bike and bounces up and down, showing off his Dockers (the "product shot") but accidentally breaking a mirror on the handlebar. He looks up. The Harley's owner-a huge, leather-clad biker-is looking down at him. The biker glowers, looking him up and down, and says, "Nice pants." Last shot: the biker rides away, leaving the guy standing on the sidewalk in just his underwear.
What's surprising about this ad is that, unlike "Vive la France" and "Subway Love," it does seem to cross the boundaries of acceptable sex talk. The rules of guy advertising so carefully observed in those spots-the fact that the hero has to be naïve, that he can't be too good-looking, that he can't get the girl, and that he can't be told anything stronger than "Nice pants"-are all, in some sense, reactions to the male fear of appearing too concerned with fashion, of being too pretty, of not being masculine. But what is "Motorcycle"? It's an ad about a sweet-looking guy down in the Village somewhere who loses his pants to a butch-looking biker in leather. "I got so much feedback at the time of 'Well, God, that's kind of gay, don't you think?' " Robert Hanson said. "People were saying, 'This buff guy comes along and he rides off with the guy's pants. I mean, what the hell were they doing?' It came from so many different people within the industry. It came from some of our most conservative retailers. But do you know what? If you put these three spots up-'Vive la France,' 'Subway Love,' and 'Motorcycle'-which one do you think men will talk about ad nauseam? 'Motorcycle.' It's No. 1. It's because he's really cool. He's in a really cool environment, and it's every guy's fantasy to have a really cool, tricked-out fancy motorcycle."
Hanson paused, as if he recognized that what he was saying was quite sensitive. He didn't want to say that men failed to pick up the gay implications of the ad because they're stupid, because they aren't stupid. And he didn't want to sound condescending, because Dockers didn't build a six-hundred-million-dollar business in five years by sounding condescending. All he was trying to do was point out the fundamental exegetical error in calling this a gay ad, because the only way for a Dockers man to be offended by "Motorcycle" would be if he thought about it with a little imagination, if he picked up on some fairly subtle cues, if he integrated an awful lot of detail. In other words, a Dockers man could only be offended if he did precisely what, according to Meyers-Levy, men don't do. It's not a gay ad because it's a guy ad. "The fact is," Hanson said, "that most men's interpretation of that spot is: You know what? Those pants must be really cool, because they prevented him from getting the shit kicked out of him."
― Action Orientation (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Maybe they could have conveyed how desirable these jeans are by having the ad end with him getting the shit kicked out of him, but managing to keep his clothes on
― Dark, promiscuous five-year-old (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link
we're not looking at this from the biker's perspective, imo.
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link
In this Meat Eating Manly Man worldview, ladies and homos are essentially the same thing.
― she is writing about love (Jenny), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:07 (fourteen years ago) link
wow a lot has changed in male-aimed advertising since that gladwell article!
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link
What David Altschiller, at Hill, Holliday/Altschiller, in Manhattan, liked about the spots, for example, was that the hero was naïve: in neither case did he know that he had on nice pants until a gorgeous woman told him so. Naïveté, Altschiller stressed, is critical. Several years ago, he did a spot for Claiborne for Men cologne in which a great-looking guy in a bar, wearing a gorgeous suit, was obsessing neurotically about a beautiful woman at the other end of the room: "I see this woman. She's perfect. She's looking at me. She's smiling. But wait. Is she smiling at me? Or laughing at me? . . . Or looking at someone else?" You'd never do this in an ad for women's cologne. Can you imagine? "I see this guy. He's perfect. Ohmigod. Is he looking at me?" In women's advertising, self-confidence is sexy. But if a man is self-confident-if he knows he is attractive and is beautifully dressed- then he's not a man anymore. He's a fop. He's effeminate. The cologne guy had to be neurotic or the ad wouldn't work. "Men are still abashed about acknowledging that clothing is important," Altschiller said. "Fashion can't be important to me as a man. Even when, in the first commercial, the waiter says 'Nice pants,' it doesn't compute to the guy wearing the nice pants. He's thinking, What do you mean, 'Nice pants'?"
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:11 (fourteen years ago) link
It's Time to Wear the Relaxed Fit Pants
― Brad C., Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link
xp take into account that if a guy is dressed magnificently and acts like he knows it, that's not necessarily a hugely attractive trait?
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean more--compare what hes saying to the ketel one ad up top
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link
I think the Ketel One ad still plays into male insecurities--you're not a man today (whether it's your fault or the world's) but last night...
― Action Orientation (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:26 (fourteen years ago) link
living in a pre-clooney world
― ogmor, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:26 (fourteen years ago) link
xp sure, i mean, of course it plays to insecurities--all advertising does--its just that altschiller is saying that the aspirational fantasy of the ad shouldnt be preening & self-confident, because (in 1997) men dont want to "care" about how they look. but the aspirational fantasy of the ketel one ad is all about preening self-confidence and caring how you look.
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link
"Men are still abashed about acknowledging that clothing is important," Altschiller said. "Fashion can't be important to me as a man. Even when, in the first commercial, the waiter says 'Nice pants,' it doesn't compute to the guy wearing the nice pants. He's thinking, What do you mean, 'Nice pants'?"
my point basically being that i dont think this is true anymore
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link
I think at times the "be a MAN" schtick is kind of useful as a stand-in for "be an ADULT," -- something that's kind of useful in an era of prolonged childhood.
Yep! Also, my biggest objection to dudes "broing down" in the desert w dune buggies is that I want to go.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link
its maybe "useful" but turning it into "be a MAN" instead of "be a GROWN UP" means that its always being defined against women & gays which is hardly very nice
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:37 (fourteen years ago) link
xx-post max i think it's still true in many dude circles, but def less true than before
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:37 (fourteen years ago) link
i dont think its very true in natl television advertising!
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:38 (fourteen years ago) link
But I think Clooney and Obama are steering us toward an ideal in which "be a man" doesn't mean against women and gays, and with that comes the confidence that we, and not just the Dekes, are men.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3599/3420371862_f8de0799e1_o.jpg
― Action Orientation (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link
that would be great if i wasnt looking at an ad at the top of the screen that strikes me as defining masculinity very specifically against women and gays.
as does for that matter the ketel one ad
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link
"use Playboy frequently"
― HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link
xxx-post oh! well, yes. sry 2 misread u on that.
i'm with you on the "be a man" idea being a poor proxy for achieving adulthood, smacks of implying women are juvenile and/or incapabale of taking care of things, p regressive
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link
OK the ad is obv BS, but about the grown-up vs "man" idea: you have to work this out for yrself. You are a man, some of us are women -- this is more than incidental to our identities, but what EXACTLY it means for us is personal. Once I was a woman who was not grown up, and now I is one who is.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link
nah you didnt misread, i was unclear--obviously there are large swaths of the population in a 1997 dont-care-about-my-appearance mindset
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link
What does it mean that we are supposed to "man up" but "bro down"??
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link
man is v seriousss (suits, business), bro is fun (flip flops, dune buggies)
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link
but laurel if you say "be a MAN" and you mean "be a MAN and not a WOMAN" youre necessarily implying that women are bad, or that being like a woman is bad.
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Well maybe that's a common underlying intention in that phrase, but to me personally it's more like, "Be a man because you are one -- accept it and redefine it for yourself but live up to SOMETHING" and I will be a woman because I am one and ditto the above.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link
ok yeah but thats a way more complex and abstracted reading of the phrase than is ever encouraged by the ads
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link
If I say, "be a MAN", I am implying that some other people with penises are not worthy to qualify as "men" by my standards, and I don't want you to be one of them.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Is that better/simpler? But anyway yeah I'm not arguing w you about advertising cos u right, and also I didn't grow up with the question of sufficient manliness hovering around me all the time and being oppressive.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link
what would you sell with this concept of MAN?
― ogmor, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link
no i mean i see what youre saying laurel i just am still skeptical of the phrase partly cause i dont know how i feel about gender essentialism and susan faludi and fight club and all that shit
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link
MEN WERE STRIPPED OF THEIR KHAKIS
^^doing the world a huge favor, btw
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Khakis are nice to lounge around in, stfu.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link
: )
don't agree with this at all- the more natural thing to draw from it is to be a man as opposed to being a boy, not a woman.
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link
I like the Gap's 90s campaign to re-associate khakis with writers, Miles, etc. Men vs. drones.
http://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/Images/jksm.gif
― Action Orientation (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link
xp in certain contexts that might be true but its hard to pretend that the idea of man-as-opposed-to-woman doesnt inhere given that you know "man" is a gendered word
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah actually eazy i think the gaps 90s campaign is the real harbinger for the ketel one type ad--and maybe even the dockers ad--with this whole 'lost era of american masculinity' type nostalgia
x post to mac in the context of many male-aimed ads (esp the top ad in question), the foil is not boyhood but primarily the "opposite" gender and its ill effects on manhood
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link
matter fact, in sort of bro-type ads (dave and busters comes to mind immediately), boyhood and the casting off of adult responsibilities is celebrated!
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:59 (fourteen years ago) link
I agree, max, and I think yr right that being aware of which side is being run down by comparisons to the other is crucial to be on the lookout for, but I think there are more charitable views of what "be a man" entails sometimes.
xp Things that celebrate being bros are NOT what the manly ad is about. Most definitely.
What is Dave & Buster's?
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link
men vs drones is the only one of these I could even sort of get behind. I want to see the man as adult camp come up with some nostalgic call to arms on the lines of the ad up top. "hoodie by hoodie, xbox by xbox"...?
― ogmor, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost to laurel, it is like a video games and wings and beer kind of place, like chuck e cheese for adults...i don't know a comparable analogue elsewhere in the country, but they exist in texas and advertise on a sort of "be a kid again yay!" tip to the 20-30 y/o dude set
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Dave and Busters, Laurel. No kidding.
http://www.travelks.com/images/Listing/5840-Co-Ed_Games_media.jpg
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Look at the things men are expected to do in the Kettel 1 ad: they are all things that are WORK for them, and that benefit others. Now, whether some of them are the best solution to the world's problems is debateable (why hello dere, Promise Keeprs), but those commands are not about having fun or being irresponsible. It's more like they're telling you, Your life is best when it's devoted to others. Go and see where your strength and skills can be put to use.
This, at it's best and not in a shitty ad way, is kind of amazing for everyone, plus I wouldn't be too bothered by the gender component of that. Mostly because anyone for whom a life of service was a desirable thing, is probably not too bothered about exactly who does what in reality.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:04 (fourteen years ago) link
With Dave & Busters and Ketel One, I think part of the idea is that "we validate your thoughts and feelings--wanting to be a kid, wanting to be a cad--that aren't being validated around you, whether by your boss, your wife, your kids, etc.--and by validating those feelings in a safe way (i.e., don't leave your family, don't screw around) we will complete you as a man. Come off to the Ketel One woods with us, and you will return complete and confident--not changed, but with your internal self more merged with your social self. We'll make you a complete man."
― Action Orientation (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:06 (fourteen years ago) link
OK wait I think I misunderstood something: what is the original ad with all the words on it for?
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link
man pants iirc
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Is that a Levi's ad? Some of it looks like their web design.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:08 (fourteen years ago) link
xps to max & bison yeah i'll accept that's more than fair in view of the ads in question.
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:08 (fourteen years ago) link
kerouac wore khakis; ginsberg wore corduroys
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link
http://fashiontribes.typepad.com/main/images/allen_ginsberg.jpgGinsberg wore OshKosh B'Gosh.
― Action Orientation (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't think the dockers ad is so much an advert for selfless heroism so much as identifying selfless heroism as a trait on a par with "not being a fag" in the modern definition of being a MAN.
― ogmor, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link
lol xp
― what u think i steen for to push a crawfish? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link
That Dockers ad is hilariously stupid. I associate wearing Dockers with being in high school so the whole "BE A MAN" thing is pretty much entirely undercut by the fact that I was a child intentionally buying conservative pants that I could wear wit combat boots and Cure t-shirts.
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I wish Harry Stein's Esquire article from 1994 about the "post-sensitive man" (Clinton and Lyle Lovett as examples, leading the way for Obama and Cloon) was on-line somewhere. Instead, there's just coverage of it from the NY Times:
The May issue trumpets the ascendance of the Post-Sensitive Man, one who treats women with respect but no longer needs to feel guilty "for the crime of simply thinking and feeling as men always have," as the article's author, Harry Stein, puts it.
The Sensitive Man, who re-created himself in response to feminism -- condemning the macho spirit, proclaiming emotional openness and purging prurient thoughts -- was always something of a fraud, asserts Mr. Stein, who is 45 and married. What's more, everyone was still dissatisfied, anyway. He suggests optimistically that today, in the easy-going acceptance of the inner differences between men and women and an end to self-righteousness on all sides, lies the possibility of "genuine understanding between the sexes."
― Action Orientation (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link
where do buffed out dudes in brightly-colored MMA bootyshorts and foil-pressed images of brass knuckles on $175 tshirts enter into this masculinity discussion?
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link
around 2007 i think
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link
o i thought you said "when"--should have responded, "around the metropolitan ave stop"
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link
i <3 you, max
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Results 1 - 10 of about 65,100 for "sensitive new-age man". (0.37 seconds)
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link
just curious what macho-khakism has to do with peacocking MMA dudes, if anything. is there a shift because of the economy? who's the REAL fag here??
(also just trying to bring up that there are many masculinities in the culture and talking in monolithic terms is oversimplifying the picture.)
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link
like old western, mustache, strong silent type man or international playboy sophisticate type man or athletic and muscles MMA type or etc etc?
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link
ads for the marines feel like a combo of all three for me (not so much the second)
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link
military ads are like the ideal masculine ads, and they combine the commitment to serving others impulse laurel described earlier with the "plus you can be macho and blow shit up" impulse of...i dunno, mma and dave and busters ok i am grasping at straws on that i think
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link
So what type of pants do you all wear on the weekends?
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link
wait, you can blow shit up at Dave & Busters??????????????????
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link
piloting a drone is just like d&bs afaik
― what u think i steen for to push a crawfish? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Problem w/the premise here, in that if u are wearing pants on the weekend u are misunderstanding the concept of "weekend."
― james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link
I guess you do your grocery shopping on Wednesdays, then.
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link
i shop at an exclusive men's only pantsless grocery store fyi
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link
fuck it, let's blame all this bullshit on Fight Club
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link
eh why do that when can blame it on feminism and vote republican for the rest of our lives
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link
"you are not your goddamn khakis"
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link
real men use plastic forks! what are you supposed to do during the Real Man (TM) activity of BBQing????
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link
use big steel fuck-off ones, that's if you just don't use mammoth tusks.
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link
man all these years i might has well have been holding my BBQ tongs with my vagina : (
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link
how the hell does one BBQ with a plastic fork???????
men, we are all doomed
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link
metal forks are best if you have a lady to wash them and can thus avoid the castrating effects of dishwater
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link
you BBQ with steel implements of doom
you eat BBQ with yr goddamned BARE HANDS
rawr
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link
surely you chain saw the meat into pieces before shoving the whole lot into your mouth together with some charcoal with your bare hands
― I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost
lol Dan grocery shopping is women's work
― james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Nobody's copping to their pants.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link
you don't actually cook the meat, by the way, you just want to eat the hot charcoal and have the meat cooked inside your stomach
― I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Wednesday, December 9, 2009 4:03 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
dude I mean eating like your potato salad and baked beans with a plastic fork...i mean who wants to bring actual silverware to the park???
wearing women's panties right now tbh
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Worrying about silverware is not a man's job!
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images18/ChihuahuaViansBigMacAttackMac3.JPG
RAWR
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link
how do you eat cous cous with a fork anyway?
― I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't understand why they are using the Levis design manual and then not putting a brand name in? It is just a free ad, for Levis, by someone else?
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
it's dockers, same company
― harbl, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I have a lot to learn about being a man.
RAWR.
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Its not an ad, it's from their website:
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link
wait I thought khakis were for pussies...
jesus i came to work feeling like ray lewis and i'm gonna leave feeling like klaus nomi.
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link
i eat my food off the floor, sometimes out of a bowl. . . if i'm feeling fancy. . . otherwise, it's off the floor
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link
feelings are for women, matt
― I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link
I just punched a deer in the face.
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link
i piss in the woods and shake hands with strangers and goddamn it I MAKE EYE CONTACT
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link
despite being flawless sometimes i make mistakes deliberately so i can stand up to admit to them.
― I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link
i taught a bobcat how to whistle the theme from rocky. my workout routine is running for my life every morning to its majestic ersatz trumpet fanfare.
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link
My Vietnam Vet dad looks UP to ME godammit
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
this thread is turning into Courage Wolf Part II: The Wrath of Courage Wolf
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
I will wear a Claiborne shirt with Calvin Klein pants without even blinking
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
RAwr no what
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
RAWR?
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
my workout routine is running for my life every morning to its majestic ersatz trumpet fanfare.wait a secondi've done thisdoes that make me a man?
(note: my name is amanda. when i was a kid people used to say "a man...DUH" and i think that moment is coming full circle for me right now in triumphant manliness)
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link
howie long is my mantor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGI8IRXRqpo
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3jUumdgPyw
sigh
― Kate 'Impeach' Bush (Future_Perfect), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link
GodI think the increasing fashion-awareness or image-consciousness in men that is characterized as "feminisation" is actually just a symptom of the broadening reach of consumer capitalism & marketing. someone once said that "metrosexuality" was concocted & encouraged by magazines & advertising because the paradigm of straight men being oblivious to what they wear is bad for business. more straight men today(and not just so-called hipsters) are more concerned about clothing, I believe, but overall perhaps it's just a triumph of marketing.
OR perhaps men are just exposed to way more media than half a century ago, ie, surfing the internet at work instead on the assembly line or something? i don't know just taking wild guesses
― lukevalentine, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
re: the "There's no more John Wayne's anymore," comment in the Emascualting Truth video. If this statement is true, I seriously don't think the cause lies with chemicals in water / food or whatever but rather in the fact that middle class men today are not being raised to fight in wars? during the world War II / Cold War era, the stakes were such that people just HAD to have a certain toughness that isn't necessary today & thus a certain image of John Wayne masculinity was the ideal, but that was always an extreme to begin with, plus I don't think even John Wayne himself was 100% John Wayne IRL
plus I reckon it's politically incorrect to act in such a way now what with women & gheys having "rights" these days, shucks
I always identified with Jack Kerouac 1000 times more than John Wayne actually
& the Kerouac ad actually kinda makes me want to wear khakis tbh
― lukevalentine, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Famed metrosexual Marion Morrison, you mean?
― l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't think even John Wayne himself was 100% John Wayne IRL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uv_WGEHr4I
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.glendalehigh.com/images2/johnwayne-1.jpg
― lukevalentine, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link
I ate a caesar salad with crab meat for lunch today while wearing brown corduroy trousers and a kicky Missoni cardigan- am I part of the problem here?
I washed it down with an espresso, is that more testicular than a latte for some reason? Or is it Euro-faggy and thus not macho?
(I didn't use a plastic fork though- metal cutlery all the way).
― twice boiled cabbage is death, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link
single or double espresso?
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
See corduroys and khakis inhabit the same place for me.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link
double espresso
for me, its:
corduroy = hipsterkhaki = probably has a job of some kind (Best Buy?)
― twice boiled cabbage is death, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link
how did indifference to one's appearance become a "masculine" trait, anyway?
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm not indifferent to my appearance and I think its ridiculous that people trot out khakis as a synechdoche of that!
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Chiming in late here, but one of the interesting things I get from this is not just the evolution of the aspired-to image of masculinity, of being a "proper fella," but the complete inversion of it.
For example, the Starbucks thing; you take the aforementioned previous desired image of men from the 50s/Playboy/Jetset/Bond era, the Clooney/Obama vector, shall we call it. The suave, debonair, cosmopolitan & knowledgeable man. Not just a grown-up, or a teenager 20 years on who's acquired a full golf bag of deficiency-compensating behaviors, but an actual adult with a developed inner self.
Where the postwar jetsetter ideal was the man(James Bond, Cary Grant onscreen, etc) who would easily walk into any cafe either in some deep beatnik enclave or on the Continent and order a vente. You have the image of a man sure of himself; a worldly, well-read fellow who's picked up a bit here and there, rather than the anti-intellectual/homophobic/insecure/reactionary thicko who'd call him faggit for using that term. What was once the apex of masculinity became inverted to the level of the foppish homosexual. (That that 50s man was homophobic as well is an interesting irony)
Key example: shaving kits. I can't find a good magazine advert for a kit, but you get the idea; the concept that a proper adult male cares about what he looks like and makes an effort to look presentable both to the ladies and to the office.
The metrosexual thing just seems like a way to get that idea back into a pop comprehension, as such concerns("who gives a shit if I look like a schlub?!") were deliberately ignored for two decades or more.
― kingfish, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link
this thread has been making me die laughing when i should be writing a paper. that is indicting this sort of thing.
smoke break. and btw, I'M A MARLBORO MAN.
― And now my dick is where? Oh, this is too rich (the table is the table), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
This thread is making me swoon a little bit cos I don't really think about MEN as such all that often and now I'm thinking about it more.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
goldmine:
http://pzrservices.typepad.com/vintageadvertising/advertising_from_the_1950s/
http://pzrservices.typepad.com/vintageadvertising/advertising_from_the_1960s/
http://pzrservices.typepad.com/vintageadvertising/vintage_advertising_to_men/
Looking at this stuff now, it's very difficult to see these old illustrated adverts that haven't be re-purposed by Winston Smith.
― kingfish, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link
this whole "men caring about their appearance = feminisation" always comes across weird to me. I'm a schlubby and not particularly masculine man and my paternal grandfather was really macho, fairly successful at boxing while in the army, and always carried a comb (was nicknamed "el gato" for his love of grooming) and was perpetually drowned in cologne. Metrosexual bastard.
― Pedro Paramore (jim), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
like the idea that it's a new thing.
― Pedro Paramore (jim), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link
how foppish were victorians with their antimacassars.
this thread does remind me that i need to get a couple of new suits.
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link
think about it from the point of view of your modern american conservative: a "real man" just acts from his gut, he doesn't dally around with wishy-washy contemplation or emotions. He's got important things to do, snap decisions to make, and everything else is secondary. He's far too busy and important to worry about how pretty he looks that day. That's silly shit for wimmen & faggits & shit.
True wimmen will be attracted to his naturally rugged good looks(which of course are natural and thus require no effort or second thought) and masculine musk that he stanks out of his pores.
― kingfish, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link
it's so weird that this happened considering what lefty commie fags and rightwing all american heroic dudes looked like 45 years ago.
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Because when you're bad at, or ill-prepared for something, nothing is as classic as intimating that all of those skills you don't have are for losers, anyway.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link
the basic tom frank point is that masculinity, whatever its style, has always been marketed.
what i see in common, but don't really know what to make of, between ^^khakis ad, "the game", retroid style/identity moves either of the martini-classy or '30s beardo working-man variety, even Queer Eye, is: they are all about What To Do. they all offer a program, a way out of alienation. are you lost? are other men getting theirs? we can help!
― goole, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9804/tuxedo.jpg
Speaking of new suits, you could sell these now and make good money. Hell, I'd dress like fuckin' Jon Pertwee every day if I were allowed to, and could afford it.
― kingfish, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa48/spryte_album/MISC/RealMen.jpg
1982
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link
i think the thing with a lot of those programs that are supposed to lead you to some ideal masculinity is that maybe in theory they're supposed to work well, but 90% of the time when i see guys trying to be sophisticated martini dudes or classy beardos in suits or guys who run circles around women w/the game book in hand, the efforts and execution are awkward or ugly and classless.
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link
and hey, ketel one dudes? sorry:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51G4JT7FCVL.jpg
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link
is there a commonality at all b/w the idea of men not caring abt the appearance and men not caring about their health/nutrition? seems like i've seen a number of ads for patently unhealthy food (fast food, "hungry man" dinners) that treat gustatory excess as some manly pursuit (counter this with most health-conscious food commercials being targetted at women).
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link
men's health is usually for shit like boner pills and supplements/routines to get your RIPPPPPPPED
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link
*ads targeted towards men's health
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link
real men don't care about their health because their life spans are already shortened by the girth and length of their monstrous penises
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, the quiche book, which i place at just the right time when they were all reacting to the Alan Alda "sensitive man" vibe of the 70s. I think an early Bloom County strip mentions this explicitly.
― kingfish, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link
i think so, because men are the ones who are cared for. if there is no one to care for them they will turn into animals who eat the nearest/easiest thing. you also learn from commercials that they don't care about the appearance of their living spacexposts
― harbl, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link
the most "bro" ads that run are ads for vodka or carl's jr
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link
seems like i've seen a number of ads for patently unhealthy food (fast food, "hungry man" dinners) that treat gustatory excess as some manly pursuit
Yeah, lotsa crossover. remember a real man eats heartily of life and has kingshit big appetites, like a brian blessed character(or just brian blessed), for food or women. health or appearance matters not. Remember, the idea here is to tamp down all conscious thought, self-examination, or any sort of internal life. Act without thinking is what is best in life.
― kingfish, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link
"care, feeding, and grooming own damn self" is a virtue regardless of gender imho
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFyzC4V_x-w
― harbl, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link
xx-post you realize you have basically described jabba the hutt rite
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Wrangler actually makes good jeans though, for real.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link
lol i love that wrangler ad, nothing brutal about football concussions or brain damage in boxing, no sir
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link
only wrnagler ads i remember are brett favre just having fun (non-professional context)
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link
jabba ate frogs, not hungryman dinners
― kingfish, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Will somebody explain the Alan Alda thing for me? I know he was on the show MASH but how did he become the archetype of sensitivity? I thought his character was a sarcastic asshole ?
― lukevalentine, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link
I thought it was Wrangler that had the animated ads in the 80s, turns out it was Levis
― kingfish, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link
i think we are overlooking class in our discussion here -- being unconcerned with appearances goes from ruggedly masculine to just plain boorish as you go up the ladder, for example
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Alda's prominence in the enormously successful M*A*S*H gave him a platform to speak out on political topics, and he has been a strong and vocal supporter of women's rights and the Feminist Movement. He co-chaired, with former First Lady Betty Ford, the ERA Countdown campaign. In 1976, the Boston Globe dubbed him "the quintessential Honorary Woman: a feminist icon" for his activism on behalf of the Equal Rights Amendment.
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.google.com/search?q=alan+alda+sensitive+man
Mix of self-styling and marketing, looks like. Same as true as in any era
― kingfish, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah further down the class ladder if you don't dress down to your level you're some kind of weirdo (at best.) there was this guy i knew in college who wore three-piece suits every day (with pocketwatch!) and carried a leather briefcase. i'm sure every college has one guy like that. anyway, he was definitely considered weird but he was just a normal guy who liked suits.
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link
hmm i think the alan alda guy is a descendant of the bob hope guy, but instead of a mouthy dickhead barely hanging on in a world of better men, he's a mouthy dickhead getting away with everything, cos the better men are all fakes.
lol boomers, lol writers. dream on!
― goole, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link
let's all just agree as the greeks did that having an meekly uncircumsized penis exemplifies masculine virtue and that having an bulbous, exposed glans is strictly for slaves, foreigners, and other lowly sorts
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link
lol omar went to school with M. White
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link
haha comment avez-vous deviné ? ;-)
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link
polidicks of glansing xxpost
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link
there was this guy i knew in college who wore three-piece suits every day
there have only been a few occasions in my life in which I have been in a suit
but I kind of enjoyed it, I felt v. classy / had a spring in my step
I would probably enjoy dressing like a swingin' playboy from time to time, and I sure think the guy you described had guts to dress the way he did with the briefcase & whatnot
but as fun as it would be for me personally it just wouldn't be worth labeling myself as "that guy"
― lukevalentine, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link
i.e. that guy who wears a three piece suit
unless I was a famous musician in which case I could possibly get away with it
― lukevalentine, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link
this is what I would listen to if I wore khakis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8PSYorL1cE
― lukevalentine, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link
i usually get asked why "i got all dressed up" whenever i put on a goddamn necktie. standards are that low.
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link
The cafeteria lady at my job asked me why I was all dressed up one day. Because I'm at work!
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link
She's incredibly good people though.
i just had lunch with a bunch of co-workers and one of them wore an oversized tweed sportcoat and everyone's like "heyyyy you got an interview or something???"
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link
an interview....with destiny!!!
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link
a stripper he had met the night before
every single office i've worked in, when anyone dresses up it's like "lol interview!"
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link
"wore three-piece suits every day (with pocketwatch!)"
the pocketwatch is insane but this is otherwise standard business school attire lotsa places.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.lovingit.co.uk/images/2007-07_yorkie-vans.jpg
― adorable cheese inscription (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Every time someone does that to me, I stop and say, "No, no, court appearance," and walk away. Generally, they don't bug me about it afterwards.
― l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
"i'm being tried for murder : |"
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Michael White is the living example of a quote I have stuck to my wall: "I don't deserve credit for turning the other cheek because my tongue is always in it."
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.blogadilla.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/dangerousbook4boys.jpg
i know this is more kid-aimed, but it seems def like preparing for some idealized manhood
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link
I feel ashamed for thinking it, but they really need some noms de plume.
― l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Geez, what a pussy!
― smashing aspirant (milo z), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link
I always wear a tie when I'm giving a lecture. I figure if over 60 people are going to look at you for an hour, then you could make an effort.
― twice boiled cabbage is death, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link
i wear a tie when im having sex
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link
I came out the womb wearing a tie
― LA CANCION MAS PRETENCIOSA DEL MUNDO... (The Reverend), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, December 9, 2009 2:23 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
tbf jabba was pretty pimp
― unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:51 (fourteen years ago) link
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, December 9, 2009 3:57 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
hahaha
re: "The Dangerous Book for Boys"
my kid brother has that book, and let me tell you it's boring
it mostly consists of various diagrams of swiss army knives
dangerous, hah!
― lukevalentine, Thursday, 10 December 2009 04:23 (fourteen years ago) link
i really dont care abt quiche and khakis or whatever else is supposed to signify u meaty and awesome - if men have some little coffee drink and it makes them happy im down w/that - however there are some aspects of our society which deviate from traditional stoic masculinity in a way id rather not deal with
particularly the tendency of guys my age and younger to bond over pop culture in a formal near religious manner - so much nervous energy expended over dudes making sure they have the same opinion of and know all the lines from caddyshack
and it extends beyond pop culture sharing to some wider constant checking in that i cant quite articulate rite now - like dude dude did u see that chick she was awesome rite she was awesome remember that one chick omg yes remember her ok ok - dnw this bro culture neediness
id rather gaze mysteriously toward the horizon
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:11 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm not sure that either of those is much of a deviation from old-school manliness. Memorizing/geeking out on pop culture is a modern variation on being knowledgeable about, I dunno, hunting or how to fix a riding lawnmower or whatever. Most of society has been removed from those kinds of tasks, so the communal knowledge that gets you into the man-group has changed.
Comparing penis size (either "look how hot my wench is" or "man I want that wench, she so fine) is pretty standard in history, too.
― smashing aspirant (milo z), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:17 (fourteen years ago) link
I think an early Bloom County strip mentions this explicitly.― kingfish, Wednesday, December 9, 2009 2:19 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― kingfish, Wednesday, December 9, 2009 2:19 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i remember this!
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:19 (fourteen years ago) link
eh i feel like maybe there used to be some standard of not being so openly needy abt these things - u just grunt and nod xp
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:21 (fourteen years ago) link
What David Altschiller, at Hill, Holliday/Altschiller, in Manhattan, liked about the spots, for example, was that the hero was naïve: in neither case did he know that he had on nice pants until a gorgeous woman told him so. Naïveté, Altschiller stressed, is critical. Several years ago, he did a spot for Claiborne for Men cologne in which a great-looking guy in a bar, wearing a gorgeous suit, was obsessing neurotically about a beautiful woman at the other end of the room: "I see this woman. She's perfect. She's looking at me. She's smiling. But wait. Is she smiling at me? Or laughing at me? . . . Or looking at someone else?" You'd never do this in an ad for women's cologne. Can you imagine? "I see this guy. He's perfect. Ohmigod. Is he looking at me?" In women's advertising, self-confidence is sexy. But if a man is self-confident-if he knows he is attractive and is beautifully dressed- then he's not a man anymore. He's a fop. He's effeminate. The cologne guy had to be neurotic or the ad wouldn't work. "Men are still abashed about acknowledging that clothing is important," Altschiller said. "Fashion can't be important to me as a man. Even when, in the first commercial, the waiter says 'Nice pants,' it doesn't compute to the guy wearing the nice pants. He's thinking, What do you mean, 'Nice pants'?" ― max, Wednesday, December 9, 2009 6:11 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark
― max, Wednesday, December 9, 2009 6:11 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark
max quoting an article on advertising
but both the author and the interviewee are being a bit disingenuous, imo. i don't believe that advertisers of this era were simply noticing that men were not fashion-conscious. they were instead deliberately attempting to encourage a degree of neurosis in men in order to manipulate them into relying on products. the hook of the cologne ad is that the guy's self-doubt is relatable. in his slightly comical neurosis about his own attractiveness, he mimics the target viewer's doubts. so a connection in forged. and that probably works as a selling point, especially in a more-self conscious era.
but it also reinforces a much more basic psychological dynamic: that to be male is to feel inadequate about one's appeal to the opposite sex, and that to buy the proper grooming product is to assuage this anxiety. and advertisers KNOW that. they certainly know that about female consumers. ads for women's beauty products aren't based on the idea that female consumers DO feel "confident" about their looks. they're based entirely on the idea that they don't. they therefore don't instill confidence, they undercut it. and then they offer to sell it back to you. and that's exactly what's going on in the cologne ad.
in initially encouraging this kind of neurosis in men, advertisers probably had to depict it quite literally. thus the man is actually shown expressing doubt about himself. in this sense, it's a very primitive, first-stage ad of its type. ads selling sex appeal to women don't have to show her feeling self-conscious - due to decades (centuries) of fashion & beauty industry messages telling women that they aren't sufficiently attractive to begin with, advertisers can simply count on a profound degree of female self-doubt.
a little later on, as in our era, male doubt (like female doubt) can simply be assumed. now that "male consumers" have been buffeted by a few decades of conflicting, manipulative "you're not good enough" messages, it can be safely assumed that they are neurotic and confused about their own standing as men. ads can simply suggest that to buy this product will quell that confusion, will make you a real man. so it doesn't surprise me that we're seeing a lot of such messages.
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:23 (fourteen years ago) link
dude
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:25 (fourteen years ago) link
: /
― you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:33 (fourteen years ago) link
?
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:35 (fourteen years ago) link
!
― lukevalentine, Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:40 (fourteen years ago) link
My favorite marketed for men product = MAN TISSUES
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3207/2405941831_eb1ccafca7.jpghttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2240/2405942091_f9e1d13579.jpg
― ★彡☆ ★彡 (ENBB), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:40 (fourteen years ago) link
they were instead deliberately attempting to encourage a degree of neurosis in men in order to manipulate them into relying on products
OTM
― lukevalentine, Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:41 (fourteen years ago) link
LOLOLOLOLOL @ man-tissues
― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:41 (fourteen years ago) link
"LET'S FACE IT YOU LIKE WANKING"
― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Strong, Soft, Sorted.
― ★彡☆ ★彡 (ENBB), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:43 (fourteen years ago) link
british only?
― unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Soaks all those spills, and is still kind on you
― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:45 (fourteen years ago) link
btw when product marketers attempt to produce poetry or little short stories on their products, baby Jesus cries
― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:46 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.canvasreplicas.com/images/Wanderer%20Above%20the%20Sea%20of%20Fog%20Caspar%20David%20Friedrich.jpg
― lukevalentine, Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:49 (fourteen years ago) link
hitting a bunch of angles at once (yr too fat, men like bacon, FOR MEN ONLY)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3590/3538717595_b4010e8e3e.jpg
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:52 (fourteen years ago) link
dunno whether or not that's been posted, thread's hella long
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:53 (fourteen years ago) link
(deej - yeah, I think the man tissues are UK only. That's where I saw them.)
― ★彡☆ ★彡 (ENBB), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:53 (fourteen years ago) link
im just thinking "sorted!" wouldnt really translate well here -- oh good theyve arranged the tissues within the box
― unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:59 (fourteen years ago) link
omg man tissues, I'm dying here.
― kate78, Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Can someone explain "sorted" to me?
Somehow all I can think when I see Kleenex for Men is "it's okay to cry."
― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:05 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaghba_DDbg
― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:06 (fourteen years ago) link
What's the Aerosmith video that has a closeup of a man crumpling a tissue? I can't remember which one it is, but I remember the MTV VJ making jokes about it.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:07 (fourteen years ago) link
"sorted" - pretty much means taken care, all set, finished. Does that make sense?
― ★彡☆ ★彡 (ENBB), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Just realized that it's probably short for "sorted out".
― ★彡☆ ★彡 (ENBB), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link
ENBB is you a britisher? I never knew.
― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link
No but I lived there for two years which is when I saw the tissues etc.
― ★彡☆ ★彡 (ENBB), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:10 (fourteen years ago) link
"man tissues" is mystifying wtf lol. can't imagine anyone thinking that was a good idea in the states.
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:12 (fourteen years ago) link
then again, men could benefit
my wife and i lolled at man-size tissues boxes we saw in ireland
― velko, Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Totally bought a box the day I first saw them btw. Too good to pass up imo.
― ★彡☆ ★彡 (ENBB), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:13 (fourteen years ago) link
btw I eat luna bars
― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:15 (fourteen years ago) link
have fun growing a vagina
― ★彡☆ ★彡 (ENBB), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:16 (fourteen years ago) link
(the dulce de leche ones are AWESOME)
― ★彡☆ ★彡 (ENBB), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:17 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean mostly I eat CLIF BARS! but sometimes we run out and I eat the wife's Luna bars. Come to think of it it is fucking ridiculous that we actually buy his and hers energy bars.
― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:18 (fourteen years ago) link
wait, luna bars are for women? fuck, no wonder jalabi chalabi behind the counter snickered whenever I bought one of those
― Spectrum, Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:23 (fourteen years ago) link
i usually keep a few in the trunk of my car
― velko, Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:25 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.beautyheaven.com.au/article_images/2009/July/July-20/CliniqueSkinSuppliesForMenMaximumHydrator.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj242/donaldparsley/mcoversmall.jpg
not particularly funny, just the other side of the coin, for full cognitive dissonance
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah are like the Lifetime TV of energy bars.
― ★彡☆ ★彡 (ENBB), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:26 (fourteen years ago) link
luna bars are a sorta rare instance of a product that's generally non-gendered having a special "for her" version. though i guess that's not uncommon in the health supplements industry...
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:27 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't see those kinda bars being non-gendered at all, though.
― sarahel, Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:28 (fourteen years ago) link
dulce de leche vaginas ARE awesome. xpost
― kate78, Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:29 (fourteen years ago) link
;)
― ★彡☆ ★彡 (ENBB), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:29 (fourteen years ago) link
― Spectrum, Thursday, December 10, 2009 1:23 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― velko, Thursday, December 10, 2009 1:25 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
women
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:30 (fourteen years ago) link
http://web.lemoyne.edu/~freemams/index_files/bundy_ted_.jpg
― velko, Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:33 (fourteen years ago) link
is that in response to my Patrick Bateman post?
― sarahel, Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:33 (fourteen years ago) link
oh whoops - keeps women in the trunk of his car, duh.
― sarahel, Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:34 (fourteen years ago) link
I think he was saying luna's keys got locked in the trunk when he was going to meet her at a bar
― what fun it is to reign & sing a Slayer song tonight (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:36 (fourteen years ago) link
I see little need to make this thread darker than it was to start with.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:37 (fourteen years ago) link
did she have a lot of junk in her trunk?
― sarahel, Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:37 (fourteen years ago) link
"jalabi chalabi"?? wtf
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 10 December 2009 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link
considered but refrained from saying something about that
but yes
wtf
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:11 (fourteen years ago) link
I had a huge multiparagraph post that I wrote out on the train on my phone, but I had forgotten to log in and so the post disappeared. An attempted reconstruction:
Maybe one of the things that has pointed men away from dressing well is a need to feel frugal.
I googled the Missoni cardigan mentioned above and the garment costs multiple hundreds of dollars. I wouldn't pay over a hundred for anything other than a business suit, a winter coat, or shoes. I expect for many even that would seem overpriced. Ultimately, "dressing nicely" means wearing clothing of little utility in comparison with its cost.
I don't know to what extent this idea might be portrayed in advertising, but the thought struck me this morning and I kinda wanted to stick up for myself and the other slobs.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Important corrollary to this is that haven't average household incomes decreased significantly since the Cary Grant postwar jetsetter era hailed above?
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I wouldn't pay over a hundred for anything other than a business suit, a winter coat, or shoes.
not even shoes, tbh
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:36 (fourteen years ago) link
good pair of jeans, tho, maybe
I wouldn't pay over a hundred fifty quid for anything other than a business suit, a winter coat, or shoes.
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:40 (fourteen years ago) link
In relative terms, clothes used to be a bit more expensive 50 years ago so thrift came in the guises of a) more conservative dress sense and b) higher quality basics in the middle of the market - good wool suits etc. You'd spend the equivalent of a month's wages on a winter coat but wear it for 10 years minimum.
― special vixens unit (suzy), Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:42 (fourteen years ago) link
That is interesting info. Thanks, Suzy.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:48 (fourteen years ago) link
It's true.
Which is why the suit would be down the pawnbrokers, and back out on payday.
― Mark G, Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah I don't mean to be all KIDS THESE DAYS but back-to-school always used to be about one pair of shoes (and maybe one pair of sneakers) plus capsule wardrobe and is now about buying in bulk at Target/J Crew plus a gazillion pairs of cheapo/less cheapo shoes, depending on your income - and natural fabrics. That attitude carried on through life. My grandparents spent a great deal of their '70s/'80s small talk whining about synthetic fabrics and the false economies/tackiness of same.
This is why all of my Mad Men-era clothes inherited from various female relatives stay in perfect condition unless the moths get 'em, and why it's difficult to find good men's vintage suits - the jackets are always fine but dudes wore the butts/sacks out of the trousers.
― special vixens unit (suzy), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Sacks, Suzy?
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Unmentionable Man Problem, Mentioned: scrotal rub against fabric wearing out the fabric over time.
― special vixens unit (suzy), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link
^ this one knows too much, she must be destroyed.
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:50 (fourteen years ago) link
I hated the scrotal rub until I discovered boxer briefs.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link
God they must have had large scrota back then!
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Dangly bits need support! Ask any titty-bearing human.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:52 (fourteen years ago) link
gotta be honest boxer briefs ain't done it for me, that's why i'd consider spending hard € on jeans these days.
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link
aaaaannnd right back on track- masculinity is when your balls wear through DENIM RAWR
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link
These are serious issues for the vintage clothing savant in your life. Also scrotal rub v. jeans FITE explains the absence of large stockpiles of big E Levi's.
― special vixens unit (suzy), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:57 (fourteen years ago) link
big P Levi's tbh RAWR
― I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link
...and what is truly awful is that camel-toeing has been known to have the same outcome in women, although there may be less locker-room pride involved than HAY GUYS, MY POWERBALLS DEFEATED WRANGLER.
― special vixens unit (suzy), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link
"scrotal rub" itself is a marketing phrase for what is otherwise known as "chub rub". but whatever makes you feel better, thunderthighs.
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link
a woman's pride come from sewing back together the jeans that were worn out by their man's balls.
― I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link
so they they can wear them out again RAWR
Even though I've never been a victim of it, I am amazed that I've never heard the term 'chub rub' before.
― special vixens unit (suzy), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link
i had a big chub rub problem in like 8th grade
― max, Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:07 (fourteen years ago) link
talcum powder yall
I've never heard it either, and anyway doesn't "chub" mean something at least slightly other than dangle?
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Depends on the angle of the dangle
― Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Angle of dangle weighed against Heat of meat. Apparently the University of Colorado did a study.
http://www.agmates.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/sea-level-graph-450.jpg
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Steer clear of this Jason guy, is my advice.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link
the angle of the dangle = the heat of the meat x the mass of the ass
― twice boiled cabbage is death, Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Speaking of dangle angle:
http://www.kilchristcastle.com/Kintyre-Map2.gif
― special vixens unit (suzy), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Ass. The Other Variable.
(New marketing slogan.)
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link
otoh the rub of the chub is directly proportionate to the weight of the gait
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link
I've never looked at the contents of that dangerous book for boys but from 2nd-hand impressions it seems like a juvenile version of the "X things every man must know" lists published in books or men's magazines. and then there's the subset of "X things every dad should know" lists.
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.randomhouse.com.au/systempicts/9780224086295.jpg
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3471/3248199882_3ed6759278.jpg
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link
xp author's name too close to 'gay marriage', fail.
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link
1) dont touch yrself in public
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh, poo.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link
There is a generational need for some of these books TBH, just thinking of all the guys I know that didn't have activity-based quality time with their divorced dads but do have all this collective false nostalgia to pour into their own young families.
― special vixens unit (suzy), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link
I am encouraged by the prominent presence of an ironing board on the cover.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link
It's not long enough to adequately iron the trousers.
― HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Eh... it's one of those that hang from the top of the door. You make do.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link
More important to have an iron than an ironing board.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I thought that was some kind of fucked-up snowboard. : (
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:05 (fourteen years ago) link
YOU NEED THIS BOOK
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link
You need "Snowboarding for Dummies"
― HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link
I am confused by the triangle with the exclamation mark inside it. And the two magnifying glasses on either side of that. Did the cover artist run out of things he could draw, or did the author run out of things that men need to know?
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:09 (fourteen years ago) link
afaik "how to change a tire" is on every single one of these lists, forever
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Triangle represents fixing a car, "magnifying glass" looks more like a frying pan representing cooking skills, item top right is a baseball maybe?
― HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link
xp and "how to suck a cock" is nowhere to be found. Hmmmm.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link
That'll be in the cookery section.
― Mark G, Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link
lol kenan
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link
item top right is a baseball maybe?
Thought it was a burger
― Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Can't be a baseball since it lacks seams. Golf ball, maybe, but no pocks.
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link
The guy's British, so it can't be a baseball
― Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Some kind of wickety stickety crickety bullshit?
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link
snooker/billiard ball
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link
testicle
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link
It's a hamburger, you princesses.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link
A lot of people don't know how to change a tire.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link
How to Order a Burger
― Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link
At least in the case of spare tires, the instructions are included. And changing any other tire is no different. If you can't figure out not to put the jack under a piece of molded plastic that will break, I have no pity for you.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link
my 8yo loves the dangerous book for boys
it taught him how to play poker + chess
it also has a section on how to talk to girls which is probably the most guidance he's going to get tbh
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link
there's also a daring book for girls
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link
this thread btw is like the inverse of itt a strange man asks etc
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, December 9, 2009 9:52 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark
see laurel is sexually harassing us right here
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm pretty sure she was thinking that the khakis would be replaced by other pants. A world of indiscriminately bare man legs is not a world any of us would want to live in.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link
ed i don't think i find objection to learning poker or chess from the dangerous book, but the fact that it's "for boys" is a bit odd to me. i'd be v surprised if the daring book for girls had a poker or chess tutorial tbh.
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link
prescriptive gender roles therein are probably totally obvious but just sayin
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link
I've only skimmed those books and yeah, lol gender prescriptivism. But aren't both of them kind of Boy Scout/Girl Guide-oriented? I don't think the girls' book is all "How to Change A Diaper" or anything.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Really the boys' book should include "How to Wash Your Own Sheets (Believe me, you'll thank us)".
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link
I think the girls book is more like "here are some basic ciphers so you can trade secret gossipy messages with your girlfriends"?
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link
karate moves, cartwheels, building a campfire, and yes--how to change a tire are all in the girls one
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0061472573/ref=s9_simp_gw_s0_p14_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1VVYMQVTA98H5828CRZ1&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846#reader_0061472573
I think both of these books sound awesome by the way--if I was a kid, I would be all over them
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
My dog found this one to be a pandering disappointment:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51E2FYZhbOL._SS500_.jpg
― mascara and ties (Abbott), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link
xxxp Well, "huh" to gossip subtext but codes themselves are pretty cool. Oh look, Que confirms it. I sort of liked the books -- obv purposefully "of another time"-looking but that is kind of cool stuff even if it IS fake nostalgia about a post-war, road-tripping, outdoors-exploring, birthing-new-Americans generation.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link
LOL
― l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link
learning how to build a scooter is timeless, imho
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I know, my dad built one out of a bicycle frame and some small engine when he was like 15? And then went on to have Vespas and later, cars that he rebuilt. I mean, why was I not that awesome at 15? I had a dune buggy, I guess, but I didn't built it myself.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link
ok u had a dune buggy???
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
?????
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
i will remember this next time u r complaining abt something on this bord
Yeah, as my first car. Orange frame, no body panels, street legal, 4 seats. Engine & transmission out of a VW bus. I drove it spring & summer for a couple of years. And the family took it dune-running in an approved "park" nearby. Learned to drive a stick in that thing, which was awesome b/c it was geared for a whole VAN and the buggy weighed nothing, so actually it was very forgiving.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Hey, sometimes Christians have fun too.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Just not too often, or they might get used to it.
gdamn i dreamed of dune buggies
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link
just enough to let them know what heaven might be like
― stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
wife tells me her dad did similar, just sub vw bug for the bus
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
But even w a windshield, the wind speed was BRUTAL over about 35 or 40 mph, so it was just for tooling around locally. Funny, I never tried wearing a helmet....
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
M, is your wife Midwestern/conservative in her origins, too?
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
texas, but her dad is pretty conservative
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link
http://mjmbooks.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Speed-Buggy.jpg
so jealous that Laurel's first car could talk and solve mysteries
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost her dad is just a total gearhead. both her parents are bikers, and he's a wrecker driver by trade.
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
holy shit i forgot about fucking speed buggy until just now
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link
that seems like an experience one would remember forever
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
LOL. adjective/modifier, not verb
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm going to write a book about spending a year trying to learn to do all of the things in all of those 100 things a man should know how to do books.
― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link
1. How to fuck a talking dune buggy
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link
but would any man just happen to know how to do all those things if those lists did not exist? "you have been judged and found wanting, sissypants" is the subtext i get there
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Kind of? Then again, remember the pic you posted of you having to tie a friend's tie? See, he should know how to do that.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link
i feel dumb when i don't know how to do something
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link
And not to get way Fight Club or anything, but there are a lot of fatherless men out there who didn't exactly take up the mantle of "man of the house.'
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Myself very much among them.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
it's more like "you've been judged and found wanting, human being"
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
can change a tire, can't tie a tie
― everyone stop (dan m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link
and I'm fully ok w/ that b/c ties are constricting in the neckal area
can barely do either one, myself. didn't know how to tie a tie until i was like 28? 29?
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link
the idea that i should know how to split logs for firewood or hang drywall just because i have a dick AND that my masculinity should be called into question for wanting that knowledge is just weird -- i can learn how if and when the need arises!
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link
learn how to tie a tie ffs
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link
its like really easy
it has nothing to do with your dick elmo
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link
well splitting logs can, but it's really difficult
― everyone stop (dan m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Huh. Maybe my Christian-y childhood came in handy in this one way. When I got old enough that a clip-on became unseemly, Dad showed me the standard half-Windsor, and now it's like tying my shoes.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link
tieing, even
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Splitting logs for firewood is actually rather fun. From what I've heard, hanging drywall is less so.
― l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Linden Avenue Stomp
yeah it's sounds kinda. . .hard
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah seriously - the drywall in my apartment is already hung, and using firewood here would be a bit dangerous.
― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link
wait
never mind
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link
i can learn how if and when the need arises!
Okay first of all YES YOU CAN, because you're open to the idea that you will be ABLE to do those things if you have to. Some people have already resolved to themselves that they will never be able to, so they won't.
But sometimes when the need arises it's kind of too late to learn? Dry-walling isn't really an emergency activity obv although it's less cool if you do it wrong the first 3 times and have to re-do it while your domestic partner watches spackle dry...but the willingness to do so is a v useful, commendable trait, imo. But like changing a tire at night in the rain or tying a tie when you're nervous and already late for something....these are not when you want to be "learning" things.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link
already ignored, don't worry
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link
re: splitting logs.. why would one need to learn how to chop something in half... i mean, it's quite hard to not know what you need to do???
― I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link
that was meant to be with dan's post. anyway, i think learning news things, all the time, is useful as a human being, and it's also something you're supposed to do. hanging drywall could come in handy sometime, but if it's not for you no big deal right?
i just made my first pie crust from scratch--totally awesome experience, will do it again. has nothing to do with my masculinity/femininity, it has everything to do with trying to be a good huan being
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link
human
Protip: if you ever need logs split, ken, please ask someone else to do it for you. If you like having 4 limbs, that is.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link
we should be tearing down walls not building them fyi
― NEW YORK DESERVED MANGINI (brownie), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link
definitely would take the protip and not cut my limb off.
― I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link
knowing how to hang drywall is one of those things that is awesome and will save you a ton of $ if you want to re-do a room in your house or something like that, however the learning part suuucccccks
splitting is rly fun/easy if you have one of these
http://www.gvfarmmachinery.com.au/images/saleitems/implements/log500g.jpg
― everyone stop (dan m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link
here u go im teaching u how to be a man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR4wfHw7Meo
easy beginner knot
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link
que i am with you 100% about skill acquisition but on the topic of the thread, these list books are presenting these as gendered skills without which, well, you're just not manifesting your true manhood
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link
btw is hanging drywall really on one of those lists - seems more like something every builder should know
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Yessssss! This is basic to the whole discussion -- but lots of people of BOTH genders don't know how to do stuff that used to be basic to either. Not that it redeems the douchebag ads but if we take any message away, it should be: Try to become a useful human being because you never know -- there's a reason your grandparents knew how to do stuff (Depression, war, times of need), and it could happen to you. Be prepared.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Here is a complete list of the tools I am proficient with:
screwdriverhammeradjustable wrenchpaint roller
I am lost if you hand me a saw, a ratchet, a planer, a trawl, a propane torch, etc etc.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link
xp Also because knowing stuff is super fun!
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
hanging drywall was just something i threw out there as an example of a difficult "masculine" skill tbh
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
I can make a pie crust. My pie crusts have gotten rave reviews, actually. Granted, they were from my mother, but my mother would actually tell me if the pie crust sucked.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
ratchets are for clapping IMO
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Right?...
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link
just sayin' you're reading a lot into these books, probably stuff the writers of the books haven't considered or thought about. i doubt the authors of the books would think you weren't a real man.
Also because knowing stuff is super fun!
100% could not agree more
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Yessssss! This is basic to the whole discussion -- but lots of people of BOTH genders don't know how to do stuff that used to be basic to either
different people have different ideas of "basic", and this is fine, and worse than not knowing how to do stuff is being the kind of asshole who judges people based on whatever skill sets they have/don't have
― lex pretend, Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Jesus, busy thread.
Just stopped in to say that this
http://www.diamondbacktactical.com/images/BodyGlide.jpg
puts an end to chub rub issues (chafing, aka in parts of the South as "galding" (sp?), in spanish "rosar").
― he's a light-hearted snake (Jesse), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link
because knowing stuff is super fun!
YES! Valuing knowing how to do stuff leads inevitably to knowing how to do stuff. If you care, if it matters to you, even if it's just because it's fun, you'll figure it out.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
btw que i also recently made my first pie crust from scratch, too. let's have a bake-off to see who is more manly!
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
let's have a bake off to see who is more ~~delicious~~
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link
also high fives, pie crusts rule
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link
I bet there are a lot more men in the world right now who can replace an ethernet card, program a nanny-cam, or repair a mother board than men who can build a deck. I do not think this makes then especially vaginal.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
(At least, I hope not.)
worse than not knowing how to do stuff is being the kind of asshole who judges people based on whatever skill sets they have/don't have
I am 100% okay with being that asshole, not about gendered stuff nec but about the idea of practical utility in general. People who don't know how to do everyday things that need doing...eh my patience for that is v short. My roommate is one of them, this causes me some domestic distress pretty much weekly.
xp kenan probably otm
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
my pie crust uses vodka! -- though scotch would be manlier (and perhaps inedible)
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:30 PM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
was wondering if these nerd type things made any of the man lists - cause they really should
btw pretty sure i could build an ok deck just by reading instructions on the internet
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link
It's funny that you picked that example; the only person I know who has hung drywall and is not a building contractor is my mother-in-law. She is the least manly person I know. (She also used to fix her washing machine and dishwasher when they had problems; apparently being a former engineering student turned stay-at-home mom makes one very handy around the house.)
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link
okay you just won the manly pie crust contest--you're using like birdshot and hardtack and nails and vodka, i'm using butter and flour
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link
we should be breaking through the crusts that divide us not baking them
― NEW YORK DESERVED MANGINI (brownie), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link
i made a pecan maple crumb crust, hollaaaaaa
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Que, you make elmo's pie crust sound like it's CPK-approved
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
im guessing to hang drywall you just screw it into the studs rite - pretty sure i could accomplish that
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
I think you're the classic guy who does it really wrong.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link
guys decks aren't that hard
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link
que, the vodka replaces part of the water which allows you to work with fairly wet, pliable dough while preventing gluten formation -- cook's illustrated, dawg
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Dan, the inventor of the dishwasher was a rich lady whose servants never got her fragile china clean enough and/or broke it! I think her father was some kind of engineer, obv it ran in the fam.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:36 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i am the guy who GETS THE JOB DONE
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
...BADLY
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
For real, dishwashers are the result of taking the washing machine one step too far.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
There is no such thing as "too far" when it makes dirty dishes clean without human intervention.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Maybe if you have the Brady Bunch in your house they make sense, but in that case go ahead and get a Hobart.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link
gbx OTM; my dad designed and built a multi-tierd deck using his three sons as manual labor after taking a six-week "how to design and build a deck" class that is still standing 23 years later
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link
See, a 6-week class, though, that's a perfect example of "I want this skill; I can go get this skill."
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe she looks down on you for stuff she can do and you can't? some people are just bad at practical shit. who gives a shit whether someone can hang drywall or make a pie crust?
― lex pretend, Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link
ftr I am not sure that "making a pie crust" is actually a practical skill
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:38 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:38 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
o im sorry no one was just walking around giving me dune buggies when i was a kid
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link
who gives a shit whether someone can hang drywall or make a pie crust?
1. people who like to have walls2. people who like to eat pie
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link
The thing with building a deck, though, is that many people lack even the most basic skills needed to get that done. Like, using a level. Driving a nail at any odd angle. etc etc
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link
using a level is pretty fucking easy--it involves a bubble
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
tbh I can't wait to have a house of my own so I can learn more practical stuff by doing it
― everyone stop (dan m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
I am totally of the opinion that if you can't figure out how to use a level within 5 minutes, you might as well go lie down in traffic.
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
i personally think those kind of "x things every man should learn to do" are appealing because they're just useful life skills really, a totally different animal than those "lol salads and lattes r 4 fagz" ads that this thread started out discussing. it's only problematic in the implication that women don't need to learn those skills, but the fact that they throw in eg. ironing, sewing up a hole in yr shirt, etc, shows that it's not necessarily out to be macho. And i think there's something to be said for knowing how to do "manly tasks"/take charge of a situation. I changed a flat tire on the side of the freeway for the first time last week and felt pretty proud of myself tbh. My girlfriend didn't know how to, not that she shouldn't but she didn't, and the fact that i took care of it was appealing in a trad masculine sense.
― where are that man's pants? :-( (Whitey on the Moon), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
or the iphone accelerometer
xxxpost
― I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
as far as drywall, there's just hanging and screwing in the drywall if you're lazy, but if you're really going for it then you have to do mudding and taping and that is a total bitch (sez the fag who used to work construction jobs)
― twice boiled cabbage is death, Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link
mudding and taping and that is a total bitch
2x
― everyone stop (dan m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
internet being readily available (esp on portable devices) also makes the need of knowing how to do something in advance less important. provided you have learnt how to use google
― I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
if u can't build a wall u don't deserve shelter, sleep out in the cold under some dude's deck
― velko, Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
But in which direction? I JUST DON'T KNOW!
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link
if u can't build a wall u don't deserve shelter, sleep out in the cold under some dude'sreal man's deck
― everyone stop (dan m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.easy2diy.com/cm/easy/diy_ht_index.asp?page_id=35693854
beginner's tutorial for hanging drywall btw
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Is there anywhere in NYC where you can learn how to do this kind of stuff in some sort of class format? I would love to take a class that was like "here is how to build a table, now go nuts with our circular saw"
― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
whitey: understood, but there's also the implication that being able to iron your own shirts & do other domestic tasks is about self-reliance and "being a grown up" and not relying on a woman to mother you -- which does relate to the values espoused in the original ad posted itt
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link
a friend of mine works as a carpenter for his uncles contracting company - they do really high end jobs for fussy rich clients - his uncle got his start by bidding on a getting a deck building job w/o out any experience building anything - so he want to the store and bought a book called like how to build a deck
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link
changed a flat tire on the side of the freeway for the first time last week and felt pretty proud of myself tbh. My girlfriend didn't know how to, not that she shouldn't but she didn't, and the fact that i took care of it was appealing in a trad masculine sense.
This is rly cute, btw. It's okay to pat yrself on the back sometimes for living up to a role that you secretly like or aspire to, even if, were you being totally honest, you know it's BS. You're not living your WHOLE LIFE by it, but it's okay to think "Boy, ya done good!" once in a while.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link
xp That's self-reliance right there.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I wrote a novel one time. If you guys don't know how to write a sufficient novel that I would want to read, you should just go play in traffic and die
anyone who doesn't have the same skills as I do is worthless tbh
― lukevalentine, Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
(satire)
(SB)
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Really, if there are two skills that are of equivalent level, it's writing a novel and using a level.
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, but lukevalentine, can you bind your own novel?
― l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
well I was thinking of the deck building thing
but yeah lol it's a BS comparison admittedly
but I know I would suck at building something if I tried
but the point I am trying to make is that not everybody is good with practical things
I mean, I can write papers in my sleep but if I tried to build something it would tons of effort & concentration
― lukevalentine, Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link
involve
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link
lol
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Changing a flat tire IS satisfying, really it is. You don't have to feel like you're dominating the other sex to feel like you're especially competent at something. Which was my point with the computer stuff, really -- I personally get my manly kicks by being able to fix broken computer things, to whatever extent. Or by being able to explain the economics and politics of the day better than cable news can. (Not an earth-shattering accomplishment, but still.) Or whatever it is that I feel good at. I won't deny that I get a testosterone-related charge off of those things, and I certainly won't apologize for competence.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link
instead of using levels to build decks we should be using them to even out our differences
― NEW YORK DESERVED MANGINI (brownie), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, but lukevalentine, can you bind your own novel?
Ha, never tried but I would hope so
I do agree withe general consensus that it is good to know how to do these things tho
I for one wish I didn't live "in my head" so much
― lukevalentine, Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link
elmo do you think there's anything wrong with that? I don't think ppl SHOULD rely on anyone to mother them. Not on some "who needs bitches" tip, just like, being a grownup IS a good thing.
― where are that man's pants? :-( (Whitey on the Moon), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link
changing a flat is kinda tedious imo - and it makes yr hands dirty
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:43 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this bears repeating
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link
changing a bike flat or a car flat? bike flats get you dirty but can be done in 5 min easy
I have a fuzzy memory, maybe five yrs old or so, of using my grandpa's level and pointing out that the cabin he was building was crooked.
― retrovaporized nebulizer (╓abies), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
lol bike whatever homo
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Just make sure the traffic in on a slope.
― l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link
yall are carpentry rockists
― lukevalentine, Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm more into carpentry electronica.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link
The thing is, in the realm of skills needed to know how to build something, figuring out how to use a level is on about the same difficulty level as figuring out how to play a note on a piano.
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Ok look, a level was a bad example, ok?
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
if u can't change the tire on a jet airliner take a boat, pantywaist
― velko, Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
whitey: no, there's nothing inherently wrong with that -- self-reliance is a virtue in many cases. but the "men should know" construction of these lists is really obviously gendered and prescriptive -- the discussion itt about male-targeted advertising and how undercuts the buyer's self-confidence also applies to these lists imo. it calls masculinity into question because men "should" know these things, then offers to sell it back because you can learn how -- just buy the book!
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
It's true -- where the hell am I going to build a deck anyway? I live in an apartment! An apartment that ALREADY HAS A DECK!
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Let's not get into the cultural ghetto-ization of non-homeowners.
elmo your pie crust science has increased my already great esteem for you.
― mascara and ties (Abbott), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
im going to build a deck INSIDE MY APARTMENT
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
im going to build a pie inside my apartment, then deconstruct the pie in my mouth
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link
"You know what would be great right here? More floor!"
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Ha Mr. Que I thought for a moment you were going to make a foodie-style "deconstructed pie" inside of your mouth, which I guess would be some slivers of deep-fried crust next to a few lingonberries.
― mascara and ties (Abbott), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link
agreed elmo, i get what you're saying now.
― where are that man's pants? :-( (Whitey on the Moon), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link
ive changed like a million tires and frankly i fucking hate it
― max, Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link
The thrill is gone, the thrill is gone away.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link
the practical skills i'm most interested in cultivating are generally domestic, homesteading type stuff tbh -- sewing, cooking, baking, weaving, canning, etc
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost Yeah but the shit job of changing a tire has to be better than like being stuck on the side of the road for god knows how long and then paying out the ass for something you can do yourself, no?
― retrovaporized nebulizer (╓abies), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link
How to change a tire:
1. Curse repeatedly at tire.2. Call my insurance co's Roadside Assistance.3. Relax while tow truck dude changes my tire.
― james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link
― everyone stop (dan m), Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:11 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Flip that for me. I had to tie a lot of ties in high school b/c I was in lol theatre/choir and had to get dressed up for shit like Cabaret Night or w/e. As for as changing tires go, it probably wouldn't be a bad skill to acquire, but judging by my aptitude for technical stuff like that, I'd probably just as soon call a tow truck.
(haha xpost)
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Ha well I suppose if you don't really have to pay for it...xp
― retrovaporized nebulizer (╓abies), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link
i ended up having to change a tire a few times and it was a lot easier than i thought it would be, even though i never had done it before until the first time i had a tire pop
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link
most cars come with instruction manuals that tell you how to change the tire
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link
men can't read
― super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link
-dockers
IKEA furniture comes with instruction manuals, too. Just saying.
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link
actually changing a tire is easier than putting something from IKEA together IMO
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah changing a tire really seems like something u dont need to learn - its just obvious
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Haha, maybe for you.
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Putting together furniture that comes with instructions may be time-consuming but it isn't that difficult! They tell you what to do, usually with diagrams showing how things fit together!
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
not trying to be superior manly here just curious what part was giving u trouble jaymc - the jack? the unscrewing the lugnuts?
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link
i tried to change a tire once and the lugnuts were too tight so i had to call a two truck
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Changing a tire, something I have only done a few times, is relatively easy; easier in my opinion than putting on most snow chains.
― l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Lugnuts have kicked my ass on more than one occasion.
Personally I have to savor an accomplishment on the level of changing a tire for at least a week. Two, if it was on my wife's car.
― Brad C., Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link
I find that it's not always that intuitive, though. I get easily confused about whether something should be upside-down or right-side-up, which way to turn the screw, things like that. I had an IKEA sofa that sat half-assembled in my apartment for over a month because I couldn't figure out how certain parts fit together. It's immensely satisfying when I'm able to get it done, but it can also be pretty frustrating at times.
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link
No one else is noticing that we're going around in circles?
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link
right tighty lefty lucy
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link
I've never done it.
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link
xxpost we'd pull over and ask for directions, but...
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link
^^works for almost all screws/lugnuts
Oh, I know. That was a bad example. Although sometimes when screws don't stick I wonder what I'm doing wrong.
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link
if yr lugnuts are too tight you should wear boxers, maybe AYO
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link
don't overtighten your lug nutz fellas
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link
doh elmo beat me : (
It's toally easy. And you'll feel like Mr. FuckMeNow when you do it successfully, even though it's not really that big of a deal.
Again, though, I feel we have covered all this before.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
you think changing a tire is easy and yet using a level eludes you
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link
ha m. bison's directions thing reminded me of my wife's totally maddening habit of not using GPS systems correctly because she is convinced that knowing how to read a map means she can navigate better than the computer; this was a real treat when we were attempting to drive in DC
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Sometimes the guy who put the tire on got over-zealous with the air wrench.
― Brad C., Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link
This thought strikes me sometimes -- it's the things that are actually NOT all that hard that sometimes seem the most impressive to other people. The things you really struggle and sweat over, nobody else gives a shit.
Discuss.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link
And you'll feel like Mr. FuckMeNow when you do it successfully
what if you feel like this anyway, w/o needing to involve tyres?
she is convinced that knowing how to read a map means she can navigate better than the computer
she is RIGHT! whenever i navigate i always do it from a map and ignore the lying lies emanating from the gps
― lex pretend, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link
It's like, the system will be "turn right now" and she'll be staring at the map on her iPhone going "oh no that can't be right, keep going straight oh oops this actually goes one way the wrong way, time for a 7-minute detour"
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link
I should probably not post on this thread anymore, or at least while we're still on this train of thought. In the past, it's gotten ugly.
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link
oops this actually goes one way the wrong way, time for a 7-minute detour
^^ New DC motto
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
the thing is, if you take a wrong turn using gps, you end up not knowing where the hell you are, but if you accidentally misdirect someone while following a map, it's fairly easy to get back on track
― lex pretend, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:57 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
not to pick on you duder but i have a kneejerk rage for ppl w/o this kind of spatial reasoning. it's kind of jerky but i can't help it. no! rotate it...the other way! the other fucking way, just look at it! god!
― goole, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link
YOUR OTHER RIGHT.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link
one should navigate london by consulting MES, imo
EXIT THIS ROMAN SHELL
― goole, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Too many xposts
More like 6 minutes amiritehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLUUpBphZps
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Also I liked how, in driving down to DC, she made an executive decision to get off of the New Jersey Turnpike and directed us straight into traffic for a 76ers game.
ftr my one snafu happened because the actual street we needed to go down was blocked off and we had to navigate around some other ridiculous one-way-the-wrong-direction streets before we could circle back to our hotel
I don't know, my GPS is very, very good about putting you back on track (although I do use the map on my phone to corroborate its instructions so I do get what you're saying)
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link
you IKEA furniture, surrounded by hail!
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link
i think one way streets should be 100% illegal
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link
marketing of GPS systems --> triumph of male technology fetishism over stubborn self-reliance in not asking for directions. PROGRESS.
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link
You guys who have probs w/loosening lugnuts need to learn to keep a can of WD-40 in your trunk. Works miracles.
― james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link
xp I look it up on Google maps before I leave the house, and draw myself a little map sometimes.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
xp Says the guy who calls a tow truck?
PS: You're right!
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
this is a real bro-down of a thread
― everyone stop (dan m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
You guys who have probs w/loosening lugnuts need to learn to keep a can of WD-40 in your trunk.
sounds painful
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
also lol kenan: I look it up on Google Maps, then route it on my phone, then route it on the GPS. I can never be too prepared!
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, Laurel's really swinging her dick up in here.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, December 10, 2009 1:09 PM (21 seconds ago) Bookmark
yeah kinda, but it's more about increased placelessness and rootlessness imo. i know i've asked people for directions and not gotten any kind of a helpful answer, either because they didn't know or their reference points didn't mean shit to me. and i know I'VE been asked for directions at times and had really nothing to tell them.
― goole, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
xp I should have said that was an xp
― everyone stop (dan m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
my tow truck guy tried WD-40, didn't work.
then he pulled out his giant metal pole and used it for leverage. he got the nuts off.
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link
dan: I find that the drawing of the map helps me not have to refer to it. I guess I'm one of those people who learn by doing. Or something.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link
instead of changing our tires we should be changing our attitudes towards one another
― NEW YORK DESERVED MANGINI (brownie), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link
booming post
― goole, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link
don't encourage.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link
my most embarrassing "giving directions" stories:
STORY #1
asker: Can you tell me where the Park Plaza Hotel is?me: *shrug* sorry, no ideanosy stranger behind me: *looks at me, then turns to asker* It is the big building right behind you.
STORY #2
asker: Can you tell me how to get to the Science Center?me: Sure! First you cross the yahd... *stops, mortified that "yahd" just came out of my mouth* I'm sorry, I have to leave now.
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link
jaymc if you are still reading the thread: When it warms up, I will bring over a 6pk and show you how to change a tire. It will be massively good bro-down timez.
― everyone stop (dan m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link
First the car lifting, then the drunkenness, plz.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link
― james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, December 10, 2009 2:11 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
also lol hit the nuts w/yr tire iron
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
"hit the nuts" is often good advice when you don't know what else to do
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
i dunno, sometimes it takes a gentle touch
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Guys don't break the surface tension -- we'll all drown.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Back on the lists of useful things. This was a cover story on a ish of Popular Mechanics that I did pick up for the Christmas flight to the parents'.
100 Skills Every Man Should Know: 2008's Ultimate DIY List
http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/tool-fist-470-1008.jpg
Their list?
Automotive1. Handle a blowout2. Drive in snow3. Check trouble codes4. Replace fan belt5. Wax a car6. Conquer an off-road obstacle7. Use a stick welder8. Hitch up a trailer9. Jump start a carHandling Emergencies10. Perform the Heimlich11. Reverse hypothermia12. Perform hands-only CPR13. Escape a sinking carHome14. Carve a turkey15. Use a sewing machine16. Put out a fire17. Home brew beer18. Remove bloodstains from fabric19. Move heavy stuff20. Grow food21. Read an electric meter22. Shovel the right way23. Solder wire24. Tape drywall25. Split firewood26. Replace a faucet washer27. Mix concrete28. Paint a straight line29. Use a French knife30. Prune bushes and small trees31. Iron a shirt32. Fix a toilet tank flapper33. Change a single-pole switch34. Fell a tree35. Replace a broken windowpane36. Set up a ladder, safely37. Fix a faucet cartridge38. Sweat copper tubing39. Change a diaper40. Grill with charcoal41. Sew a button on a shirt42. Fold a flagMedical Myths43. Treat frostbite44. Treat a burn45. Help a seizure victim46. Treat a snakebite47. Remove a tickMilitary Know-How48. Shine shoes49. Make a drum-tight bed50. Drop and give the perfect pushupOutdoors51. Run rapids in a canoe52. Hang food in the wild53. Skipper a boat54. Shoot straight55. Tackle steep drops on a mountain bike56. Escape a rip currentPrimitive Skills57. Build a fire in the wilderness58. Build a shelter59. Find potable waterSurviving Extremes60. Floods61. Tornados62. Cold63. Heat64. LightningTeach Your Kids65. Cast a line66. Lend a hand67. Change a tire68. Throw a spiral69. Fly a stunt kite70. Drive a stick shift71. Parallel park72. Tie a bowline73. Tie a necktie74. Whittle75. Ride a bikeTechnology76. Install a graphics card77. Take the perfect portrait78. Calibrate HDTV settings79. Shoot a home movie80. Ditch your hard driveMaster Key Workshop Tools81. Drill driver82. Grease gun83. Coolant hydrometer84. Socket wrench85. Test light86. Brick trowel87. Framing hammer88. Wood chisel89. Spade bit90. Circular saw91. Sledge hammer92. Hacksaw93. Torque wrench94. Air wrench95. Infrared thermometer96. Sand blaster97. Crosscut saw98. Hand plane99. Multimeter100. Feeler gauges
Handling Emergencies10. Perform the Heimlich11. Reverse hypothermia12. Perform hands-only CPR13. Escape a sinking car
Home14. Carve a turkey15. Use a sewing machine16. Put out a fire17. Home brew beer18. Remove bloodstains from fabric19. Move heavy stuff20. Grow food21. Read an electric meter22. Shovel the right way23. Solder wire24. Tape drywall25. Split firewood26. Replace a faucet washer27. Mix concrete28. Paint a straight line29. Use a French knife30. Prune bushes and small trees31. Iron a shirt32. Fix a toilet tank flapper33. Change a single-pole switch34. Fell a tree35. Replace a broken windowpane36. Set up a ladder, safely37. Fix a faucet cartridge38. Sweat copper tubing39. Change a diaper40. Grill with charcoal41. Sew a button on a shirt42. Fold a flag
Medical Myths43. Treat frostbite44. Treat a burn45. Help a seizure victim46. Treat a snakebite47. Remove a tick
Military Know-How48. Shine shoes49. Make a drum-tight bed50. Drop and give the perfect pushup
Outdoors51. Run rapids in a canoe52. Hang food in the wild53. Skipper a boat54. Shoot straight55. Tackle steep drops on a mountain bike56. Escape a rip current
Primitive Skills57. Build a fire in the wilderness58. Build a shelter59. Find potable water
Surviving Extremes60. Floods61. Tornados62. Cold63. Heat64. Lightning
Teach Your Kids65. Cast a line66. Lend a hand67. Change a tire68. Throw a spiral69. Fly a stunt kite70. Drive a stick shift71. Parallel park72. Tie a bowline73. Tie a necktie74. Whittle75. Ride a bike
Technology76. Install a graphics card77. Take the perfect portrait78. Calibrate HDTV settings79. Shoot a home movie80. Ditch your hard drive
Master Key Workshop Tools81. Drill driver82. Grease gun83. Coolant hydrometer84. Socket wrench85. Test light86. Brick trowel87. Framing hammer88. Wood chisel89. Spade bit90. Circular saw91. Sledge hammer92. Hacksaw93. Torque wrench94. Air wrench95. Infrared thermometer96. Sand blaster97. Crosscut saw98. Hand plane99. Multimeter100. Feeler gauges
― kingfish, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link
lol some of those are hilariously wrong
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link
i am eliminating entire sections of that list in my mind
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Where to begin, even
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link
18. Remove bloodstains from fabric
^^^i like how it's specifically bloodstains and not like wine or grape juice or a multitude of others
― you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link
i think "brew beer" HAS to be the worst
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link
xp I don't much like that at all.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link
And it's interesting to read the reactions from an actual tech-heavy DIY group
― kingfish, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link
bloodstain advice shoulda been listed closer to "crosscut saw."
― james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link
101. Cancel magazine subscription
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link
as i'm reading it's just....no. no. no. arguably. no.
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link
50. Drop and give the perfect pushup
this is a terrible gift idea
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link
drop and give a perfect pushup wtf
― voices from the manstep (brownie), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link
72. Tie a bowline73. Tie a necktie
tie a bowtie is harder than both
― cozwn, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I live in Texas. Knowing how to drive in the snow is only slightly more useful than knowing how to survive in the post-nuclear holocaust mutant wasteland.
― smashing aspirant (milo z), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link
39. Change a diaper40. Grill with charcoal
proximity of these two steps is disconcerting
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link
69. Fly a stunt kite
roffle roffle
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link
This made me chuckle. Just one? Are we really that flabby?
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
ayo brownie how come you are not over in muni lot with the rest of the Browns tailgaters?
― james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
whittle
― voices from the manstep (brownie), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
xxp I think of Bill Murray in Stripes. He did five.
busy whittlin', pancakes
Surviving Extremes63. Heat
step 1: remove excess clothingstep 2: drink water step 3: get under something to block big fireball in sky
still hot? repeat steps 1-3 until not as hot
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
bowties aren't terribly complicated but they do require a bit of practice
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
And i wonder where something like this fits on the manly<--->bro gradient. You're still making something with your hands, after all. Even if it is chainmail made from beer tabs.
http://blog.makezine.com/beercantabarmor_cc.jpg
― kingfish, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
okay, so the military things we need to know do not include unarmed combat, weapons training, tactics, ballistics, crowd control, or any of the actual cool military stuff, but rather the stuff that your dad made you do on Saturdays when he was irritated that you'd spent all morning watching cartoons
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link
xxp So do regular ties, tbh, if you want that perfect dimple.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link
53. Skipper a boat
http://sixcharacters.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/skipper.jpg?w=190&h=240
― james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link
19. Move heavy stuff
lol at this being a "skill" you might now "know"
― retrovaporized nebulizer (╓abies), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link
102. fashion lionel richie head from clay
― cozwn, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link
59. Find potable water
fucking 4/20 man
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link
112. Be dumb as stump117. Crush beer can on head141. Crush enemies150. Hear lamentations of women
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
102. sire an heir
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
103. Hire Slayer
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link
but honestly, surviving tornadoes? "son, if you see a tornado, i want you to look him in the eye and just say no. it was nice talking to you, see you next christmas."
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link
104. Invoke "Droit de seigneur" on all your friends' fiancees.
― james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link
105. Fence
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link
106. master the art of sincere apology even if you do not give a fuck irl
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link
80. Ditch your hard drive
Do what with it? You mean, throw it in a ditch? I think I might like to wipe it, reformat it, and see if I can use it again first.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link
187. self-administer a prostate exam
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
for a second i thought it read "pantone" and i was all who is this guy
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link
188. self-diagnose prostate cancer
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link
See, I thought it said "Fatone" and I was like, uhhhhh . . .
ps to brownie apparently there is a wedding scheduled for 3:30 in the muni lot amongst the idiots Browns fans
― james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link
195. commandeer the vehicle of a stranger by force (non-video game)
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link
6. Conquer an off-road obstacle
can this include alcoholism?
12. Perform hands-only CPR
Real men give mouth-to-mouth
― Brad C., Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I do believe I was roommates with beer can armor guy in college. I knew him when he was just coke can armor guy (I guess this was before he was 21). He would leave rotting meat under his bed and moldy towels in the closet. Whenever I'd bring my girlfriend around he'd glare at her like she was like some kind-of intruder by sake of her gender.
― Spectrum, Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link
107. Glare at opposite sex
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link
pancakes, message in ILNFL 4 u
― voices from the manstep (brownie), Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link
108. Remove Bookmark from this Thread
― max, Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link
44. Treat a burn
important ilx skill
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link
u guys as i write this i am eating rice out of the pot i cooked (slightly burnt) it in. real men have no need for dishes.
― where are that man's pants? :-( (Whitey on the Moon), Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link
but really i'm just in a hurry.
Not married, I assume.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link
I hope when you wrote "rice" you meant "squirrel you strangled with your god-damned bare hands"
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RlK0Xd4c2c
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link
genuine in-office roffles! I go to a meeting and shit turns hilarious.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Going wayyy upthread... I watched the whole series of "how to tie a tie", and not one of those knots is quite exactly the one that I tie. I keep watching the four-in-hand and half-windsor videos, but neither seem exactly like my (apparently special) knot. But neither are the results very different. I want my knot to have a NAME, damnit!
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link
how does yr knot go
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I... I can't describe it all with words and stuff. I suppose I could make a video.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link
But I'm not sure either myself or anyone else really cares that much.
In fact, I'm pretty sure I don't.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Ok, forget I mentioned it. :)
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link
haah ok
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Make a video and we can call it a "full kenan."
― Action Orientation (Eazy), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link
kenan maybe it is a pratt aka shelby knot? iirc there are like 85 ways to knot a tie (topologically) but there are only 5 or so that are named
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link
double kenan
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~ym101/tie4/tie4.html
^ nerd alert
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
holy shit, that link is like catnip to me (and I don't wear ties that often)
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Ah ha. Yeah, seems like a shelby, though I don't start the way they do in this video, with the shit all backwards and shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ4Rb_mYKS0
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
That would be a good bit of masculine marketing if only those were a woman's hands.
― Action Orientation (Eazy), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link
And if it were The Edge instead of a mannequin.
heh... I got that.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link
in defense of that popular science list (not the way it's written or every item on it), my stepdad was a popular science kinda dude. he knew his way around every imaginable tool and scientific discipline, in a knowledgeable layman's "here are the basics" sort of way. he knew all about surviving arcane emergencies and how to tie hundreds of different knots, could repair cars and household appliances and plumbing and electrical systems. had a head full of mathematical formulae and conversion tables and useful phrases in foreign languages. was not a cook, but had memorized a few favorite recipes he could execute expertly. knew the name of every plant, animal, constellation and cloud formation.
he just liked to know his way around stuff. it was definitely an ego thing for him, but one with tangible benefits. he was great to go camping or fishing with, a godsend in real emergencies of any kind, and i learned a hell of a lot from him. always kinda regretted not being more like him in that sense, but i'm not. therefore, i'm kinda cool with a lot of the stuff on that PS list and with its general intent, though yeah it's written very badly.
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 December 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:40 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:42 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
especially if you're this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTiVO8kbEvc
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 10 December 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Should we expand this to images of masculinity in pop tunes? Like, say, your top 40/young country hits about "bein' a man"? As contrasted with James Brown or Jarvis?
― kingfish, Thursday, 10 December 2009 23:57 (fourteen years ago) link
I think Jarvis is a little more in a grey area than James Brown or [insert male country artist here]. Jarvis is kind of the embodiment of "My dick is where? This is too rich."
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Friday, 11 December 2009 00:19 (fourteen years ago) link
^ i don't know what this means, but it's my new display name.
― the embodiment of "My dick is where? This is too rich." (Whitey on the Moon), Friday, 11 December 2009 01:09 (fourteen years ago) link
the dick in in a tub of creme fraîche? how is that good?
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Friday, 11 December 2009 01:43 (fourteen years ago) link
i think table is the table has already taken that one tbh xp
― what u think i steen for to push a crawfish? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 11 December 2009 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link
LOL - the Shelby is named after an incredibly cool Twin Cities anchordude.
― special vixens unit (suzy), Friday, 11 December 2009 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Re: BBQ and how to eat it, from Joseph Mitchell:
It didn't take women long to corrupt the beefsteak. They forced the addition of such things as Manhattan cocktails, fruit cups, and fancy salads to the traditional menu of slices of ripened steaks, double lamb chops, kidneys, and beer by the pitcher. They insisted on dance orchestras instead of brassy German bands. The life of the party at a beefsteak used to be the man who let out the most ecstatic grunts, drank the most beer, ate the most steak, and got the most grease on his ears, but women do not esteem a glutton, and at a contemporary beefsteak it is unusual for a man to do away with more than six pounds of meat and thirty glasses of beer. Until around 1920, beefsteak etiquette was rigid. Knives, forks, napkins, and tablecloths never had been permitted; a man was supposed to eat with his hands. When beefsteaks became bisexual, the etiquette changed. For generations men had worn their second-best suits because of the inevitability of grease spots; tuxedos and women appeared simultaneously. Most beefsteaks degenerated into polite banquets at which open-face sandwiches of grilled steak happened to be the principal dish. However, despite the frills introduced by women, two schools of traditional steak-dinner devotees still flourish. They may conveniently be called the East Side and West Side schools. They disagree over matters of menu and etiquette, and both claim that their beefsteaks are the more classical or old-fashioned.
When beefsteaks became bisexual, the etiquette changed. For generations men had worn their second-best suits because of the inevitability of grease spots; tuxedos and women appeared simultaneously. Most beefsteaks degenerated into polite banquets at which open-face sandwiches of grilled steak happened to be the principal dish. However, despite the frills introduced by women, two schools of traditional steak-dinner devotees still flourish. They may conveniently be called the East Side and West Side schools. They disagree over matters of menu and etiquette, and both claim that their beefsteaks are the more classical or old-fashioned.
― Action Orientation (Eazy), Friday, 11 December 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link
bisexual beefsteaks, huh
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Friday, 11 December 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link
I suppose this wasn't enough to set off your satire-ometer:
at a contemporary beefsteak it is unusual for a man to do away with more than six pounds of meat and thirty glasses of beer.
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Friday, 11 December 2009 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link
tbh when the dicks get to swingin' it's hard to distinguish satire from self-parody sometimes
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Friday, 11 December 2009 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't think the entire thing is full-on satire but it certainly doesn't seem like something that wants to be taken seriously; it looks like it's dressing up commentary re: East Side and West Side steak cooking methods in "rawr we were real men then" humor.
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Friday, 11 December 2009 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Well, it was written in 1939 about the beefsteaks of the 1920s (taken from this page on beefsteaks, but also from Mitchell's Up in the Old Hotel. I don't think of it as satire, as much as reporting on the guys who missed the old beefsteaks of yore.
― Action Orientation (Eazy), Friday, 11 December 2009 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link
haha okay, that does put something of a different context on it
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Friday, 11 December 2009 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link
"remember the days before beefsteak went ac/dc?"
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Friday, 11 December 2009 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link
old beefsteaks of yore = beef jerky
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 11 December 2009 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link
"remember the days before all the women made us stop eating pemmican?"
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Friday, 11 December 2009 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link
there's a logic going on in that paragraph that basically means that sex with a woman is kind of... gay.
― goole, Friday, 11 December 2009 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link
You mean eating with a woman.
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Friday, 11 December 2009 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link
He certainly does.
― james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 11 December 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link
i read that excerpt as satirical. it satirizes both the crudity of manly men in days gone by, and also (in its tone) the nostalgia for a retrospectively exaggerated version of such. quote similar to the contemporary ads mentioned in this thread.
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link
"quite similar..."
most cars come with instruction manuals that tell you how to change the tire― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:41 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:41 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i cannot keep up with this thread, but ^^^^^
i am picking tire-changing arbitrarily but not knowing how to do this is on some next-level "I just don't GET math" art of pretend helplessness shit. put the jack under the car, jack it, use the iron to loosen the nuts, pull the wheel off, put the spare on, tighten the nuts, lower the car. this is a skill that should be filed under ADULT CAR USER, not MAN. if you don't drive, or have never gotten a flat, fine. or if you have and the weather was shitty or something. but if you've gotten a flat tire, and had the requisite kit with you, and the weather was nice, and the nuts came off easily (sometimes they don't and that sucks), and you STILL called a tow truck, then you are just a lazy person. the end.
anyway, like elmo said way upthread, most of the skills i'm interested in acquiring these days are horrifyingly feminine, and i always, always wear an apron while cooking.
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Friday, 11 December 2009 23:33 (fourteen years ago) link
I've changed more than my fair share of flats in my life, but I can 100% see how people could be intimidated by the process and just not want to bother. Sometimes the instructions are incredibly vague about where to properly place the jack and I can see someone not wanting to take the chance to try to jack it incorrectly and fuck something up or worse!
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 December 2009 23:38 (fourteen years ago) link
fukken dr. homo over here
― Lamp, Friday, 11 December 2009 23:38 (fourteen years ago) link
I've changed more than my fair share of flats in my life, but I can 100% see how people could be intimidated by the process and just not want to bother. Sometimes the instructions are incredibly vague about where to properly place the jack and I can see someone not wanting to take the chance to try to jack it incorrectly and fuck something up or worse!― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, December 11, 2009 5:38 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, December 11, 2009 5:38 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i don't buy this, tbh. figure it out. if you can write a paper with yr eyes closed or w/e, then you can stare at some instructions and think rationally about how to do something in the actual, physical world. jacking something incorrectly can't really fuck things up THAT much. if it's a weenie jack that comes with the car, then the worst that'll happen is that the car will suddenly drop a few inches when the jack tips over. oh noes.
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Friday, 11 December 2009 23:42 (fourteen years ago) link
and hey lamp y dont U go somewhere and stfu
XXpost. You loosen the nuts before you jack it up by the way. Otherwise it might fall off the jack. Ditto for tightening.
― everything, Friday, 11 December 2009 23:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, but remember that someone stranded on the side of a busy expressway with a flat tire while running late for something important is certainly not in the most appropriate frame of mind for clear thinking. I mean, I agree with you in that it is an important (and relatively easy) skill to learn, but at the same time I can completely see why people are intimidated by it!
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 December 2009 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link
i have made that mistake before!
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Friday, 11 December 2009 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link
YEEESS, this is why you should maybe KNOW HOW before it happens to you! As I/we were saying. That's why it's good to know how to do things just because, sometimes.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Friday, 11 December 2009 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, i guess, and i am being an internet hardman about something pretty trivial, but still. sometimes this attitude ("willed helplessness" we'll say) pushes my dang buttons. i am in no way in favor of heavily gendered skillsets or w/e, but ffs ppl pounding a nail or painting your walls or installing a driver is NOT DIFFICULT. or, rather, learning how to do that thing is not difficult.
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Friday, 11 December 2009 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link
this is a skill that should be filed under ADULT CAR USER, not MAN.
Right, and more or less true across the board. Like for most skills apart from what you do with your own genitalia I don't really see much sense or use in filing them under masculine/feminine. Useful things=useful.
whoa buncha xposts, yea w/ya re: willful helplessness. Lotsa things aren't as scary as they seem.
― retrovaporized nebulizer (╓abies), Friday, 11 December 2009 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Just out of curiosity, how did you people who know how to change a tire learn?
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Friday, 11 December 2009 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link
I learned by getting a flat out in the middle of nowhere at 11:30 PM in the days before a cell phone. It was a sloppy attempt, but I got it done. Since then its just been refining the process.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 December 2009 23:58 (fourteen years ago) link
my friends dad taught us one time when he was driving us somewhere and blew a tire - it really is p simple
do u want 2 fite??????
― Lamp, Friday, 11 December 2009 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link
use the iron to loosen the nuts,
See, I don't even know what either of these things are.
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Friday, 11 December 2009 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link
I've never had to change a tire but, for example when something would break or go haywire on my guitar, it's like okay lets get an allen wrench and just...you use your small semblance of wits and it gets done.
― retrovaporized nebulizer (╓abies), Saturday, 12 December 2009 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Well, yeah. I'm OK with that sort of stuff, too. I change lightbulbs, hang picture frames, etc.
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Saturday, 12 December 2009 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link
my dad showed me how to change a flat a long time ago. but there has always been some weirdness when i've actually gotten flats, like the time (surprise!) it turned out my spare was flat too
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 12 December 2009 00:04 (fourteen years ago) link
BREAKIN DOWN WALLS HERE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDjbz5TrHJA
― retrovaporized nebulizer (╓abies), Saturday, 12 December 2009 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link
that was informative! i did not know
― LA CANCION MAS PRETENCIOSA DEL MUNDO... (The Reverend), Saturday, 12 December 2009 00:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I guess I just wonder sometimes if the people who are all "suck it up" about practical stuff like this had parents who emphasized it. Because mine never really did, and it's not like I would've picked it up elsewhere (never even had to take shop class in junior high, since I was in band). I mean, I don't want to make excuses or anything, but I really do feel out of my element sometimes when it comes to certain fix-it skills, just because my experience is so minuscule.
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Saturday, 12 December 2009 00:23 (fourteen years ago) link
I totally understand the fear of it, but I mean, I tried my damndest in shop class and got a C. I can hardly crack eggs without getting bits of shell in them. If I can do it anyone can.
― retrovaporized nebulizer (╓abies), Saturday, 12 December 2009 00:27 (fourteen years ago) link
jaymc-- I learned because I got a flat. I made it home, pulled out the kit that came withu car read the manual and did it.
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Saturday, 12 December 2009 00:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Fair enough.
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Saturday, 12 December 2009 00:40 (fourteen years ago) link
putting the male gaze right there in the commercial, i think. MEN OF STATURE (figuratively but also literally in these ads) see you as an ineffectual boy, boy, in your stupid ryan howard hats. put down the xbox, put on a suit or something and get a cadillac like a grownup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prjjokASEqo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoQXao7Zjpg
― slugbuggy, Saturday, 12 December 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link
welcome to the world of gentlemen gentlemen
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 12 December 2009 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link
dude doesn't know this but the other three are hyundai owners--not gentlemen in the slightest
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 12 December 2009 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link
thats ok cause the old guys are driving a stolen cadillac and theyve just massacred everyone in the diner
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 12 December 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link
during the world War II / Cold War era, the stakes were such that people just HAD to have a certain toughness that isn't necessary today
Haven't made my way through the whole thread yet to see if this is expanded upon, but this is something I've given a lot of thought to. The idea of being rough and rugged and manly made sense when there was utility to it, when it could be used in the service of some opposing force. But, c'mon. Most people (in the US, at least) lead pretty damn cush lives. Every time I see some bro striking a hardman pose walking through, say, Lincoln Park, I can't help but feel really sorry for the dude. Overt machismo strikes me as a generally outmoded and obsolete state of being unless you live in some crime-ridden neighborhood or you're in the military or something.
― Zoo Snickers (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 12 December 2009 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh, and another thing while I'm on the subject, and which may go hand-in-hand with the rootless and senseless masochism of today: where once you may have had a patronizing style of misogyny that infantalized women, today you have a burgeoning sadistic misogyny which objectifies women (see: most porn, which seems to be having an increasingly and frighteningly huge effect on sexual mores across the board these days).
― Zoo Snickers (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 12 December 2009 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Link is NSFW, but they have full lad mags from the 40s - 70s here:
http://www.vintagegirliemags.com
It's amusing to see how many of them resemble the same thing found in comic books years later
― kingfish, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link
never even had to take shop class in junior high, since I was in band
how did this even make sense
― Restless Genital Syndrome (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link
like that is the most perplexing school board decision I have ever seen
― Restless Genital Syndrome (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link
some schools exempt you from other requirements for doing band!
― harbl, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link
not that weird imo. kids in accelerated science skipped shop and home ec in my school.
― harbl, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link
I guess I just wonder sometimes if the people who are all "suck it up" about practical stuff like this had parents who emphasized it.
My dad never did, but when i had to do work around the house for him, it was done the right way or i would hear about it, and i think this helped a lot?
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link
my dad didn't emphasize it that much but he knows how to do a lot of stuff & is curious about things so it rubbed off. not on my brother though, he has no clue how to change a tire, i'm sure.
― harbl, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link
i had to *beg* my dad to teach me how to change oil though ^_^
got my first f in metal shop
― super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah my dad is totally like that too--except he hates working with others so
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link
I made a box wrong
i got a B probably in shop
i got a C in home ec, mostly because i fucked up this sewing project (a stuffed animal) pretty bad
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link
i loved shop, i wish we had it every year. but i could NOT sew. my teacher made fun of me. who cares though, her class was useless and dumb
― harbl, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link
But usually those requirements are somewhat analogous to the skill set band would satisfy (like, for example, choir or a basic music class, or an art class).
In 8th grade, my school district made you take a full year of phy ed for a full year, split semesters of industrial arts and home ec, and a music/arts class that could include be band and/or choir. You didn't get the option to start skipping any of these classes until high school, and even there you had to take phy ed freshman year and at least one class out of the other general areas.
― Restless Genital Syndrome (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link
she was this round lady with a perm. my stitches were too huge so i had little pockets and she said "what is this? a hidey-hole?" i will never forget. xpost
oh she totally made fun of me. i don't care, though. if i need to learn how to sew i will get a book
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link
i can knit now
― harbl, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i mean my capacity for concentration on tiny skilled tasks has increased a lot since those days
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link
my dad was way handy and super into fixing up cars and stuff like that, and so were my two older brothers, but i never had the least bit of interest in anything like that as a kid. (also, weirdly, my dad and brothers were never into sports, but i was).
nowadays i have more of an appreciation for that stuff, both for sheer practical value as well as thinking that it might be fun to tinker around with stuff or fuck around with home improvement projects...but when it comes down to it, i still don't have the requisite desire to take up those sorts of activities in any substantive manner
― dell (del), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I made a gigantic leather keychain in 8th grade shop that I used through college and still have in a drawer. I also wore the sweatpants I made in 8th grade shop up into college because I had run out of fabric on them so three panels were navy blue and the back left panel was white and I thought they were awesome.
― Restless Genital Syndrome (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link
My school district made no bones about putting vocational classes in the poorest schools - there wasn't even the option of taking shop (or home ec or metal shop or anything else) in my high school.
Now a friend is teaching in one of those schools and can't get $500 from the district to start a lit mag for her creative writing and English students.
― smashing aspirant (milo z), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Dan, in HS:
http://image.orientaltrading.com/otcimg/31_126.jpg
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link
my dad showed me once or twice when the family car had a flat. i've never changed a tire on my own though.
― The Détourn of the Depressed (get bent), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link
My uncle showed me how to change a car tire when I got a flat. I've done it once since then. The satisfaction of being like "daaaamn I changed that tire good a ding-dang-doo" was outweighed by how much of a pain in the ass it is to do. Changing a bike tire OTOH is highly satisfying (and an irritatingly frequent necessity in this land of goatheads).
― just a moonful of sugar (Abbott), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, if you did band in junior high, then you just did band all year. If not, then you had a quarter each of art, music, home ec, and shop.
but when i had to do work around the house for him
What does this mean? I had basic chores like cleaning bathrooms, vacuuming, etc.
Btw, I was thinking about this thread this morning because my car died over the weekend and so this morning I called to get it towed to the shop. On the phone, the mechanic said, "Do me a favor, open the hood on your car so the tow-truck driver knows which car is yours." I said sure, went out to the car, pulled the ring below the emergency brake that's supposed to pop the hood, heard a pop, and then went around to lift it up ... except I couldn't figure out where I was supposed to lift. Nothing seemed to be budging. Was it frozen shut? Was there some latch I had to unfasten? I didn't know. So I just didn't do anything about it, and I stood outside the car and waved to the tow truck when it approached. For a while, I still feared that the tow-truck guy was going to ask me to lift the hood and I'd be all embarrassed, but it didn't happen.
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link
it's interesting, my mom is old-fashioned and needs dad to do all the stereotypically manly-man stuff, but my parents didn't raise me with a "men do THIS, women do THIS, women don't do THIS" attitude. i learned all that gender expectation stuff from television and well-meaning educators.
― The Détourn of the Depressed (get bent), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link
ha yeah there's a little lever under the hood you have to find!
― harbl, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link
i had to clean bathrooms and stuff but that was for my Mom. i mean like yard work, mowing the lawn, picking up brush, clipping hedges, weeding.
did you try running your hand under the hood?
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link
jaymc have you really never opened the hood of your car? that is like. . . staggering to me
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link
xxp I seemed to recall that was the case, but this time the hood wasn't even propped open an inch for me to find it.
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean like yard work, mowing the lawn, picking up brush, clipping hedges, weeding.
Oh, I just mowed the lawn.
It is lame of me to say, but it is sometimes advantageous for me that I am a woman & that car fixing is such a gendered activity. When I had a car, if it ever quit working in the middle of the road, I just had to stand outside the car & look sad & v quickly some guy would help push it to the side of the road, jump start it, etc. Sometimes I will see guys with cars that have quit working in traffic & I realize they just have to struggle with it without quick help.
― just a moonful of sugar (Abbott), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
how do you put in new wiper fluid and check oil? or do you just...not do it
― harbl, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^^^
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm pretty sure I have. But not often enough to know what the issue was this time.
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link
That's what Jiffy Lube is for.
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link
dude, you should know how to open the hood of your car.
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link
wow, dude
― Restless Genital Syndrome (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link
i got a new car a month or two ago. i popped the hood so a) if i had to pop it in the situation like you described, i'd have some idea how it worked on that car, and wouldn't embarrass myself, and b) so i knew vaguely where the washer fluid nozzle was, so i wouldn't freeze my ass off looking for it in the winter when the juice ran out, as is likely to happen.
http://daddytypes.com/archive/beprepared_cover.jpg
― goole, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Hey, I thought I did know. Maybe if you were there with me this morning, you could've told me what I was doing wrong.
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link
yes that is a jpg from "daddytypes.com"
― goole, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Nothing seemed to be budging. Was it frozen shut? Was there some latch I had to unfasten? I didn't know. So I just didn't do anything about it, and I stood outside the car and waved to the tow truck when it approached.
The bolded part is what you were doing wrong? I'm not trying to pick on you, but giving up here seems like your first misstep.
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link
there's probably a brief section in your owner's manual about how to open the hood
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link
also gas goes in the gas tank, and the things you drive on are called wheels
^^sorry
i don't drive but i've seen enough horror movies and police procedurals to know that "female alone with broken-down car" is a total creep magnet. i would be terrified to accept help from a man who offered.
― The Détourn of the Depressed (get bent), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link
when it's cold, or if the car is getting old, the hood won't "jump" up when you pull the release. you might have to get your fingers under there and pull it up to have enough room to feel around for the latch.
― goole, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link
"so this is a car, huh?"
― dell (del), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
that's what SHE said
― The Détourn of the Depressed (get bent), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
"The Hood Won't Jump (feat. Ice Cube)"
― Action Orientation (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link
xxpostalso sometimes you have to grease the hood and massage it some in order to get it to "jump" up
― dell (del), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link
get bent it was always in full daylight & in busy traffic – lots of onlookers means maybe less likelihood of doing a crime + mad desire to quickly end the embarrassing situation of having your car stalled out in the middle of a busy road. I wld also imagine their motive was to stop an irritating block in traffic.
― just a moonful of sugar (Abbott), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Basically in the Midwest if you went into labor and needed to go to the hospital you could just stand in the road and the next person who passed would probably drop everything they were doing to drive you there. And the hospital is probably 30 miles away, so that's not a small deal.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link
OK, look: I went out, ran my hands under the hood, tried to pull it up, no dice. I went back in the car, pulled on the ring again (this time harder), then went back out and tried again. My fingers got pinched under the grill. I put gloves on and tried again. Nothing. I went back in the car, pulled on the ring again (even harder and in multiple directions). I went back out, looked to see if there was someplace else on the edge of the hood that it was meant to be lifted from. I couldn't identify one. Meanwhile, it was fucking freezing outside, so I went back in the car and waited and tried to figure out what to do. I then reasoned that I didn't *really* need to lift the hood because I could just wait for the tow-truck guy to call and then stand outside to wave to him as he approached. So that's what I did. You're right, though: I probably should've consulted the owner's manual. That didn't occur to me. I'll do that next time.
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link
ok, cool. sorry about yr car dude--car stuff sucks!
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link
jaymc staying remarkably civil
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link
i think it's remarkable that he bothered to justify himself so much
― dell (del), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
we should prob start calling him names now
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, I know, most of my posts on this thread are just cruising for it, which is why I said a few days ago that I probably shouldn't be posting here at all. :/
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
if it makes you feel any better, i'm really bad at registering my car and paying fees and getting tags and shit because my dad always did it for me and i never learned growing up
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^ my registration is 4 months overdue now
― standing on the verge of getting it rong (m bison), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm very good at registration but terrible at inspection. When we got our car, our inspection sticker was for June; it is currently for December.
― Restless Genital Syndrome (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm this way with figuring out my taxes -- my dad's a financial whiz + way better at math than i am.
― The Détourn of the Depressed (get bent), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link
btw any tx cops read this, you can find me at 123 fake st. next to the taco cabana
― standing on the verge of getting it rong (m bison), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link
oh it is inspection for me, not registration.
― standing on the verge of getting it rong (m bison), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link
at the combination pizza shack and taco cabana
― Restless Genital Syndrome (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link
my buddy at work had a long-expired reg and wound up paying about $1000 bucks in towing, tickets, and registry fees while losing the better part of a week trying to get his car un-impounded.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link
terrible at inspection
thank you jesse ventura!
― goole, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link
It is lame of me to say, but it is sometimes advantageous for me that I am a woman & that car fixing is such a gendered activity. --just a moonful of sugar (Abbott)
...it is similarly advantageous to shifty mechanics.
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link
what's funny is both of my siblings are bad at it for the same reason--we blame Dad. all of us have been pulled over for it.
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm good at inspection because the meter maids will viciously ticket me once it's overdue.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link
oh shit I need a new license AND new tabs
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link
oh god, one year I had something like $10 in outstanding excise tax because I missed the deadline and the associated penalty by the time I paid it, and was therefore denied renewing my registration and basically had to spend two days waiting in lines to get the whole thing cleared up
― Restless Genital Syndrome (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link
for the first few years i owned a car, i would just *totally* forget that things had to be renewed every year until i got enough tickets (and LOL got pulled over enough) until it sunk in
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link
I am the worst car owner. it just sits there
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I didn't know you even HAD a car.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link
is it unmanly 2 say cars are the worst idea for getting ppl around and that if i owned a flamethrower or missile launcher i would park in an empty lot and go to town on my car?
i'm assuming that i'd be wealthy enough for an alternative to my car if i owned a flamethrower or missile launcher.
― standing on the verge of getting it rong (m bison), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link
xp You seem so much more masculine suddenly, why is that.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link
phermones
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link
also m bison u r otm
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link
i think it's 100% manly thing to say
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean: flamethrowers!
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link
fuck cars
― max, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
living in nyc makes me never want to ever own a car again ever
pop the trunk open shoot a missile into it
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link
pop the hood, turn on the flamethrower, ride a pterodactyl to work while eating raw meat
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link
while wearing dockers and holding a door open for an old lady
― standing on the verge of getting it rong (m bison), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link
― max
being in l.a. makes me feel the same way basically
― you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
― max, Tuesday, December 15, 2009 4:39 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^ also people will bring food to you in yr home so
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Once when my car wasn't where I remembered it being, my first instict was "Oh good it's probably been stolen!" That would have been too easy though.
― lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Cars: no fun to own. But kinda fun to drive!
real men raw meat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUFINseSXNw&feature=related
― dell (del), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.gushansenpoker.com/images/gus-hansen_home-top-left.jpg
It's time to introduce poker superstar Gus Hansen into this discussion.
― The Hood Won't Jump (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link
hilarious dome
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link
now that we've been introduced, can i keep ignoring him for the rest of my lyfe?
― standing on the verge of getting it rong (m bison), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Thank you Gus, for that whole visual ensemble, because it saves me the 30 seconds that I'd have to spend talking to you to realise you're a complete tosser.
― HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link
more like full tit poker
― standing on the verge of getting it rong (m bison), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link
needs goatee
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link
would not smash or play poker with
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link
he's got a jamie foxx-in-miami vice hairline
― you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link
http://media.cardplayer.com/image/e/EV08_Gus_Hansen.jpg
― Restless Genital Syndrome (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
professional poker players are disgusting savages
― you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.thehendonmob.com/MobDiary/pics/JoshArieh.jpg
Better Gus than Josh Arieh.
― The Hood Won't Jump (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link
http://media.cardplayer.com/image/h/huck_seed_Small_.jpg
2 degrees of separation away from this dude (his sister was in my wife's dorm)
― Restless Genital Syndrome (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link
why does the game of poker attract such douchebags? is it the whole "vegas baby" high roller thing? i would blame jon favreau but i know it goes back to some rack pat shit.
― The Détourn of the Depressed (get bent), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 08:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Goes back to them being rambling, gambling guys.
― The Hood Won't Jump (Eazy), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link
also the notion of playing cards for a living will tend to attract high-level douche talent
― standing on the verge of getting it rong (m bison), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgA4JQQhZD4
― am0n, Sunday, 2 May 2010 02:08 (thirteen years ago) link
hoping those commercials generate a new interest in masculine skirt wearing and purses
― all my parks got feathers and wood, in my hood we call them ducks (m bison), Sunday, 2 May 2010 03:25 (thirteen years ago) link
The idea that not getting Miller Lite is somehow a punishment!
― This is four-dimensional art; the 4th dimension is incredibly powerful. (Abbott), Sunday, 2 May 2010 03:32 (thirteen years ago) link
the bartender's eyes are dewy with disdain
― all my parks got feathers and wood, in my hood we call them ducks (m bison), Sunday, 2 May 2010 03:34 (thirteen years ago) link
ws all these miller light drinking dudes
― midcentury Modern (Lamp), Sunday, 2 May 2010 03:51 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae232/daggerlee/IMG_0240.jpg
― maybe it's because you're a tedious creep! (dyao), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:03 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae232/daggerlee/IMG_0241.jpg
verdict: pretty good, but I dunno why a woman couldn't also eat all these dark chocolate covered pretzels ticks
― maybe it's because you're a tedious creep! (dyao), Monday, 21 June 2010 10:04 (thirteen years ago) link
― The Reverend, Monday, 21 June 2010 10:06 (thirteen years ago) link
That still looks girly. Needs a truck on it, imo.
― kkvgz, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link
a truck that turns into a robot
― Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:49 (thirteen years ago) link
a truck that turns into a robot with tits
― kkvgz, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:50 (thirteen years ago) link
sounds like a pretty genderqueer truck
― plax (ico), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:51 (thirteen years ago) link
ugh girls no way
― Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, nvrmnd.
A truck that turns into a robot that is also a grill
― kkvgz, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:52 (thirteen years ago) link
to grill your bitter chocolate pretzel sticks on right
― crüt it out (dyao), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:53 (thirteen years ago) link
NO!
Men don't eat dark chocolate! Men eat meat! The pretzel sticks are just to lure women who we will set on fire to grill our meat on!
― kkvgz, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:56 (thirteen years ago) link
this chocolate is bitter because it contains the tears of my enemies whom I've vanquished in combat
― crüt it out (dyao), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:57 (thirteen years ago) link
dudes love putting long things in their mouths
― plax (ico), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Tears are gay. You were fighting a bunch of gay dudes? What are you - queer or something?
― kkvgz, Monday, 21 June 2010 12:00 (thirteen years ago) link
the day they let that makeup wearing pussyboy alex reid into the ultimate fighting ring was a black day for real men imo
― Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:02 (thirteen years ago) link
tbh imo all marketing of masculinity is really abt male-male homosocial desire but maybe in a way that is not specifically "gay" so
― plax (ico), Monday, 21 June 2010 12:04 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i got lots of male-male homosocial desire, but i tend to descripe it more as 'fancy a pint after footy' for fear of putting guys off
― Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Monday, 21 June 2010 13:08 (thirteen years ago) link
kinky
― plax (ico), Monday, 21 June 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Why? Why? Why? ...FOR GOD'S SAKE, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
― Aimless, Monday, 21 June 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link
a lot of it is, true. Like if you were phrasing it in terms of feminist film theory (the school that appropriated from Lacan & Freud), you could say that not only women are subject to the male gaze, but men are as well.
― sarahel, Monday, 21 June 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link
i saw this crappy documentary abt "straight-acting gays" which was kinda gross in its smug approval that sporty bear-ey homos are in some way bucking some rigid idea of what gayness is (it was pretty gross imo). But one guy said something that really stuck w/ me which was "how can i be the thing that I desire." I mean in a crisis of masculinity age I guess its prolly easier for gays to explore and represent their homosocial desire bc its not problematic to collapse the boundary b/w the social and sexual, but, you know, I feel for straight guys bc post crisis of masculinity or whatever they have to find some way of enjoying and representing their male directed desire that doesnt make them look like a fag.
― plax (ico), Monday, 21 June 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link
it is interesting what connotes "looking like a fag" that isn't one of the obvious things, like taking pleasure in having a dick in your mouth.
― sarahel, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm sure that "looking like a fag" has multifarious and purely coincidental roots in the complications of being closeted. The signals couldn't be too obvious, or straights would suss you out, but couldn't be too subtle, or you'd never hook up. But whatever signals were settled on, they were sure to be somewhat arbitrary.
― Aimless, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm confused by what plax said, but I think I need to read it a few more times to get it.
― bamcquern, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link
i think the jist of plax's argument is the need for straight guys to say "no homo"
― sarahel, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link
I guess I'm not surprised that there's supposed to be a "crisis of masculinity" at present, but it seems to me totally unnecessary.
I never fit any of the social stereotypes of being "a man's man" (an interesting phrase that has now slipped into desuetude), but I got around it by just deciding I was a man, so any definition of masculinity that left me out was a flawed definition. It seemed perverse to credit the definition as correct and to place the flaw in myself.
So, if there is indeed a "crisis in masculinity" it isn't because men are not men anymore. It is more a failure of prior definitions. But that definitional failure has been around for a long time. We need, among other things, a definition that leaves out any particular sexual orientation as a requirement.
In fact, it would be helpful to cut masculinity loose from gender altogether, so we all can recognize the inclusion of both masculine and feminine traits in everyone. This idea has long been accepted in Asia. See also: yin & yang.
It's about time we got with that program and laughed those silly ideas of masculiinity (as exemplified in the ads above) out of society entirely. Irony in this case isn't strong enough to do the job. Ridicule is the right medicine.
― Aimless, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link
agree w/Lamp though - some of those Miller Lite drinking guys in that ad are v. cuet
― sarahel, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link
ridiculing people and their ideas is always the anti-macho solution right
― The Black Keys - white boys can still throw down (crüt), Monday, 21 June 2010 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link
on the macho scale, where does playing devil's advocate rate?
― sarahel, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I see what you did there. cute. but the sleight of hand came where you added ridiculing people to what I said abt ridiculing ideas.
― Aimless, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link
all im really saying is that it seems from my perspective ther igid rules for expression of male-male sexual desire w/in a straight male framework make it inherently problematic for straight men to celebrate their masculinity because seeing and enjoying yourself as a masculine image involves an enjoyment and appreciation of an image of masculinity but the sexual element is kindof suppressed?
― plax (ico), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Can't speak for Sarah, but I definitely wasn't ridiculing plax.
― bamcquern, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh, nevermind. That's not what anybody meant.
― bamcquern, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
lol - i thought crüt's comment was ridiculing me for commenting on the "cuet"ness of the guys in the ad!
― sarahel, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
if he was hes a retard cos those guys are pretty cute
― plax (ico), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link
this though:
"So, if there is indeed a "crisis in masculinity" it isn't because men are not men anymore. It is more a failure of prior definitions. But that definitional failure has been around for a long time. We need, among other things, a definition that leaves out any particular sexual orientation as a requirement."
I have no idea how this could work, any definition is going to be lacking, it might even be said that the more comprehensive a definition is the more explicitly exclusionary it becomes.
― plax (ico), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link
agreeing w/ aimless. why not describe ur genderness and what it means to you as something compatible w/ yourself and how you want to proceed? i think those ideas of masculinity shouldn't be ridiculed but ignored or exploded -- speaking as one of those gay guys with guilt issues who's tried to be what i desire or wanted to try to be what i desire. it's impossible and exhausting. x-post
― I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link
haaaaate this onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J73cdISF8wk&feature=player_embedded
― |8 l) u_u (bnw), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link
whoa - that ad really illustrates plax's point
― sarahel, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link
the reason i got pissed off with that shitty documentary was because it implied that these straight acting queers were
a.) in some way less queer (which in a way i kindof agree with, i mean, their version of gayness is a lot more digestible than faggy swishy hairdresser types)b.) the implication that gay men desire "men" and that what constitutes a "man" is a lot narrower than the version aimless describes for himself above for eg.c.) that these narratives of desire become just as easily applied to a rigid policing system for gender expression, which is really depressing considering the self-policing that most gays i know have experienced in the closet stage.
― plax (ico), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link
also lol @ late capitalism perpetuating heteronormativity itt btw
― plax (ico), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link
does it imply that the "men" gay men desire - what constitutes that masculinity - is narrower than that which straight women desire?
― sarahel, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link
http://foodfacts.info/blog/uploaded_images/hardees-thickburger-shrinka.jpg
― The Black Keys - white boys can still throw down (crüt), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link
so is the Thickburger more "masculine" than the burgers at those fast food places that are tiny and kinda grayish?
― i don't know whether it's really popular in Canada as well (sarahel), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link
you clearly do not understand the masculine cult of the grill
― The Black Keys - white boys can still throw down (crüt), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link
you know, because you're a woman
― The Black Keys - white boys can still throw down (crüt), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link
A definition of masculinity that is not anchored to gender would define various qualities or tendencies as masculine or feminine. The fact that most people display, at various times, all of the qualities assigned to masculinity or femininity would not be a problem, because this is accepted as given.
Otherwise, you are stuck with a definition that refers exclusively to genitalia. I have a penis and testicles, therefore I am masculine. But conflating masculinity with sexual equipment or sexual orientation renders the entire concept superfluous.
― Aimless, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link
xp - that's what i'm getting at - like those whitecastle miniburgers that aren't actually grilled and are kinda gray and gross - how do they reconcile with masculine coding?
― i don't know whether it's really popular in Canada as well (sarahel), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link
― sarahel, Monday, June 21, 2010 8:47 PM (4 minutes ago)
i guess its just that in that equation, women dont hold the same kind of stake in representations of masculinity, or at least don't experience it and the expectations of it in the same way. For gay men to demand an abstract and caricatured version of masculinity, and to hold it up as being somehow more authentic (that is, these guys are only gay in there sexual orientation and in every other way are just like other bros y'know) feels like particularly insidious appropriation and enforcement of the gender archetypes forced on them orig.
― plax (ico), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link
they are marketed to men as vegetables xpost
― The Black Keys - white boys can still throw down (crüt), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link
also - corndogs - is there a relation between the popularity of corndogs with hipsters and the way they "perform" masculinity?
― i don't know whether it's really popular in Canada as well (sarahel), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link
xp @ aimless, if we're gonna drop the link w/ gender what is the point of masculine/feminine at all? why organise these particular set of traits around this (now disappeared) binary at all. And won't that binary kind of remain anyway, like I don't see how we could just drop something with such an accumulation of cultural baggage.
― plax (ico), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link
^^ exactly.
― i don't know whether it's really popular in Canada as well (sarahel), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link
x-post so much of this stuff is about what "guys don't" do! or like, what's "less." it's passive-aggressive flattery with a keen awareness that what a man's doing when he sees ur ad is sitting on his ass watching tv or stuck in freeway traffic and needs to feel validated and inferior at the same time. many xposts
― I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, i mean advertisers obv have a vested interest in sustaining the neuroticism around men's idea of their own masculinity as a way to sell shit. But I think its pretty harmful. A point was made to me pretty recently that ANY attribution of femininity to a man could only really be phrased as an insult. I kinda feel like everyone should have the right to be a fag, straight or gay, and these are pretty fucking sexist.
― plax (ico), Monday, 21 June 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link
advertisers obv have a vested interest in sustaining the neuroticism around men's idea of their own masculinity as a way to sell shit. But I think its pretty harmful.
Welcome to our lives! The cushions are hideous because someone bought them from Cindy Crawford's Walmart collection, but at least the couch is big enough for all of us.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Monday, 21 June 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link
The ads, btw, are clearly a variation on the usual theme, where buying the product solves the Big Problem, although the Problem is not the usual "I want more sexing", but rather "I feel unworthy of sexing".
― Aimless, Monday, 21 June 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link
i think these are equally common problems consumer goods are marketed to solve
― i don't know whether it's really popular in Canada as well (sarahel), Monday, 21 June 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link
i dunno if you could in this day and age be as blatant as the "put down your purse bit" and i swear i am in no way trying to downplay the societal pressures faced by women
― plax (ico), Monday, 21 June 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link
xxxp to myself because it took me this long to respond and I hate to throw out a perfectly good comment:
Remember, when the front door shuts behind you, just close your eyes and wait for the Lysol/Clorox/Febreeze color-safe full-body disinfectant spray deodorant treatment to complete and the green light to come on before germ-lock door will open. We're doing it for the children.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Monday, 21 June 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link
well, i can't think of any ad campaigns targeted at women that operate on fear of being perceived as a lesbian.
― i don't know whether it's really popular in Canada as well (sarahel), Monday, 21 June 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link
No, that's true. But we are supposed to be afraid of being too much or not enough of every other possible personal quality lest it be antithetical to femininity. Our sexuality isn't in question so much because, well, does anyone care what women like in their sex? As long as WE are likeable to others and we can still badger our husbands about household chores, everything will be fine.
I truly don't want to derail, I'm just saying I think there's a reason there's not more widespread accusation of homosexuality leveled against women by advertisers -- they don't have to pull that lever because there are already 895,680,890 others. They don't even have to go that far.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Monday, 21 June 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link
I can bring home the baconFry it up in a panAnd never ever let youForget that you're a manohhhhhhhh, Enjoli
― Grisly Addams (WmC), Monday, 21 June 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link
my friend & i have had running jokes about that hardee's ad for a whole year now
― kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 21 June 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Laurel - don't forget about the children!
― i don't know whether it's really popular in Canada as well (sarahel), Monday, 21 June 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link
"hey what's up y'all i baked something""YOU MADE FOOD BY HAND??? WHAT ARE YOU, SOME KIND OF FAGGOT? TAKE YOUR QUEER BISCUITS AND GET OUT OF MY MANCAVE, HOMO."
― kaká flocká flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 21 June 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link
https://edgecastcdn.net/800034/www.perpetualkid.com/productimages/lg2/TOWL-0402.jpg
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Monday, 21 June 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link
seriously, you could edit out the line about the biscuits and replace it with the guy saying, "Hey guys, guess what, I'm gay!"
― i don't know whether it's really popular in Canada as well (sarahel), Monday, 21 June 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link
That towel says "Baking is GAY!" in case you couldn't read it.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Monday, 21 June 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Laurel - that's funny, because at the Tassajara bakery, at least back in the 60s, they would actually only let men bake the bread, women could only do prep and cleaning and stuff.
― i don't know whether it's really popular in Canada as well (sarahel), Monday, 21 June 2010 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link
"hey i made food""WTF. SIT DOWN AND WATCH MEN IN JUMPSUITS REV THEIR ENGINES."
― I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Monday, 21 June 2010 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link
The stupid conflation of gayness with femininity. Shit, from the pov of butch dykes, riding Harleys is GAY.
― Aimless, Monday, 21 June 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Can I -- do I even have to say that the word "mancave" makes every skin cell I have cringe in repulsion? There are whole shows dedicated to...them. I'm not saying it again. It's a terrible word. Also, really, just crawl back into a vagina and find a womb if you really need it to be warm and dark and infantilizing that badly.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Monday, 21 June 2010 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link
^^exerting your own expectations of masculinity
― plax (ico), Monday, 21 June 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link
plax: I kinda feel like everyone should have the right to be a fag, straight or gay
never felt in the right position to assert this myself, idk if I'd be co-opting or how it'd seem from outside, but I think this is space worth fighting for anyway.
― ogmor, Monday, 21 June 2010 23:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Fear of gayness is apparently the only available effective tool to motivate men to get off the couch and buy something.
― hills like white people (Hurting 2), Monday, 21 June 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link
The stupid conflation of gayness with femininity.
yeah the underlying assumption behind "men don't bake" isn't "gay men bake" it's "women bake"
― The Black Keys - white boys can still throw down (crüt), Monday, 21 June 2010 23:08 (thirteen years ago) link
But also that being like a woman = gay, no?
― hills like white people (Hurting 2), Monday, 21 June 2010 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah I guess the reaction of the other guys isn't like "oh shit... this dude might be a woman!!"
― The Black Keys - white boys can still throw down (crüt), Monday, 21 June 2010 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Is it an overreaction to think shit like this feeds shit like this?
This quote horribly lol:
"That was the pathetic reason as to why this terrible event happened - because he wanted to show he wasn't a pussy"David Jeremy QC, prosecuting
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/10372678.stm
― admrl, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess it 'feeds into it' but you might as well posit other pop-cultural causes while yer at it. video games. rap music. action movies.
― ultra nate dogg (history mayne), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link
red bull imo
― Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link
This is OTMFM. My wife and I just bought a house, and there are several more rooms than we previously had in the place we were renting. I cannot tell you how many times people were like "Oooh. Now you can have a MAN CAVE."
Fuck that. If I want to watch a football game or play video games or watch a war movie, I'll do it. If my wife is currently utilizing the television, I'll either go somewhere I can watch the game or wait until she isn't. I don't need some sanctum infantatum to go do my "manly" things. At least back in the day the den was a place of work or quiet contemplation or reading or some such shit. Its replacement - the man cave - is a place of 50" plasma televisions, team logo stickers, and keggerators. Shit, dude. Leave that at a bar.
Its just so lame. I get that some dudes need to have a place where they can get away from the world and just kick it, watch a game, sit in recliners, drink beer, or whatever.
BUT WOMEN DON'T WANT THAT, TOO? FUCK!
Caveat: I do have an "office" because I work a fair bit at home, and am distracted relatively easily. This will not become a man cave, however.
― Let Amare go ham like he was all you can eating it (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link
How about an interact-with-your-family-like-they're-real-people cave?
― kkvgz, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link
(there are no caves or private areas, except the bathroom and my kid's bedroom)
― kkvgz, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link
At least back in the day the den was a place of work or quiet contemplation or reading or some such shit. Its replacement - the man cave - is a place of 50" plasma televisions, team logo stickers, and keggerators.
Haha. I went off the handle a little bit yest but I should maybe be more thoughtful and say, yeah, agreed w BLAM on this point: of course EVERYONE would like space for themselves, comfort, etc, but I have to main objections to the mancave:
1. It pre-assumes that the rest of the house is NOT his, meaning it must belong to his wife and he's somehow less welcome or less "in control" there, which is obvious gendered bullshit and demeaning to all parties.
2. Men are being sold the lowest common denominator of hopes and dreams for this little bit of space that is "theirs". And they're supposed to be MOST at home and most their "real" authentic selves there, somehow? Except the whole sports and beer and bravado and sloppiness thing, while I myself am a big supporter of all these in the right context, these are not qualities that exercise the "best self" even though they have their place in life. This is not what we need more of in the home, or in our heads really.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link
*TWO main objections. Fingers too fast there.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Nah. Fuck them.
― Let Amare go ham like he was all you can eating it (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link
how many people actually have these man caves? outside of beer commercials and sitcoms and mtv cribz.
― iatee, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Also related to expounding on point #2: I loathe the fact that advertisers have successfully made this kind of personal space in the home be about CONSUMPTION more than contemplation, or anything else the space could be used for. Maybe that's snobbish/elitist of me.
iatee, I have no idea, but people on home shows who're shopping for a new place or w/e seem to talk about them A LOT.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link
I agree that it's a concept of sorts and surely does exist in reality for some people - but to say that it's replaced the den? I dunno, I'd bet there are 5x as many 'dens' as 'man caves' in america...bet based entirely off personal experience.
― iatee, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
New idea: Is the "man cave" a replacement idea for the garage or workshop, for "modern" men who don't have garages or wood-working areas or tools and hobbies of that particular "manly" sort? Like, a lot of people can come to the rescue with a cordless drill or some basic plumbing stuff like getting things out of the drain trap etc, in an emergency, but most of us "urban"(?) younger people don't spend the number of hours working on machinery or carpentry projects, etc, that I remember people doing when I was little. Or yardwork, because we don't have yards per se or we hire landscapers or something.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
But, on the other hand, does this not take at least part of the recreation and socializing out of bars and bring it into the home? Is that bad?
― Let Amare go ham like he was all you can eating it (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I loathe the fact that advertisers have successfully made this kind of personal space in the home be about CONSUMPTION more than contemplation, or anything else the space could be used for. Maybe that's snobbish/elitist of me.
Holy shit, me too. At some point, the eating/drinking/buying must stop, right? READ A BOOK!
― Let Amare go ham like he was all you can eating it (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
we call the room in the cellar with the couch, tv, and dvd player the "man cave" but we're both men and it really is like a cave so
― I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link
oops i meant "man den"
― I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link
usually said with a terrible british accent? ymmv
Was the den just the middle-class-ification of the "library"? Which was also a men's sanctum in houses that could afford one, iirc.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link
this sounds right tbh.
I mean, when I think of the concept, it's less to do with masculinity and more with privacy (treehouse!). "hobby cave"
― flapjackin (gbx), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link
like when some lady tames this ~stallion~, I imagine I'll want some sort of space to do nerdy projecting ( bikes or w/e) by myself. just cuz I like to do that stuff alone, not because Ill expect my wife to be baking pies all the time
tho that would be dope, I love pie
― flapjackin (gbx), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah I mean people like having their own private space (not just men...) - I do think it comes down to the fact that most peoples' hobbies = watching tv
― iatee, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link
man cave pioneer:
http://a0.vox.com/6a00c225240649549d00d4141e3c30685e-500pi
― iatee, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah but calling it a "man cave" just conjures up bad smells imo.
what about "penis room"?or "room for penises"
― I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link
How about "room for athletic assholes"?
― kkvgz, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link
How about a room for shutin gamers?
― flapjackin (gbx), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link
That doesn't really fit in with the kind of party me and Matt P are having, sorry.
― kkvgz, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Frankly if there were a room that my family members/partner were reluctant to enter and where I was allowed to spend hours of recreation time basically unaccounted for except for occasional hobbyist projects that resulted, I'd spend every waking and non-working moment there.
Which would basically defeat the purpose of having a family/partner but you know, what can you do.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link
room with stuff in it for me to do
― I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link
And I would really like it to be as boring as possible to everyone but me.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link
^^ This. Laurel, I feel like we agree on this topic whole-heartedly.
― Let Amare go ham like he was all you can eating it (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link
you can do it even if you have a partner, don't need to designate a room either
― I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link
I need a bigger apartment. With a den.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link
:(
― I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link
In Britain, this space is called 'the shed' and it's a place for men who like kamikaze home repair to isolate themselves from their houses. It is accepted by the type of man who celebrates Top Gear viewing as a 'blokey' pursuit.
Further to what Plaxico was saying about the doc above, this is just another take on projecting 'realness' or basically it's Paris is Burning in a lumberjack shirt. I also give a lot of traction to the idea that the gay fashion designer's first-collection 'muse' for menswear is the guy they were bullied by, or the guy they fancied at a time when they had less acceptance/control over how they, themselves, were seen.
― WHEN CROWS GO BAD (suzy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link
found the trailer for that doc. btw. iirc the guy who says the line i was talking about is pretty much the only interesting guy in it, and not just bc of his awesome moustache.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oTB_NkZjLM
I'm not sure how comfortable I am w/ describing gay displays of masculinity in a kind of PIB realness context either bc it kind of implicitly suggests that straight displays of "masculinity" are in some way more real or authentic than gay.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Your comfort is not the issue, as the voguers were the ones who invented 'realness' categories and predicated it on the whole phenomenon of 'passing', but I would argue that all 'masculine' displays have that aspect.
― WHEN CROWS GO BAD (suzy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link
you are being p. hasty w/ prescribing an element of a very specific subultural phenomenon existing in a very specific context as somehow paradigmatic of the vastly larger cultural spectrum of male gender performativity. But beyond that,I mean, a large part of the performance of "realness" in PIB is explained by the ballers as an expression of their desire to overcome marginality, that line about the appearance of success being an equivalent for success itself (framed against the backdrop of racism, homo/transphobia and the aspirational climate of american popular culture in the 70s, 80s in partic.)
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link
PIB?
― I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link
paris is burning
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydA7-qCv570
dorian corey is such a hero
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Well yeah, me too - and maybe this is a bit off-topic - but one thing I've been noticing among my friends who are also urbanites, is a desire to return to the carpentry/construction/productive projects that we associate from the middle America of our youth. It's like everyone I know who lives somewhere with anything resembling a backyard wants to have a garden and grow produce and raise chickens.
― i don't know whether it's really popular in Canada as well (sarahel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link
that looks fantastic. thread has me thinking about all sorts of things but i don't how how to put it into a coherent statement. like, this stuff really affects me sometimes. x-post
― I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link
it is fucking fantastic. would totally recommend.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link
PIB is life-changingly good!
― rim this, fuck that (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe it's a desire to have a direct hand in SOMETHING that's a part of your life. that's what you tell yourself before you start. then you start and it just plain sucks, but you keep going cuz you started it. we just planted a garden, cut down a bunch of weed trees, grew a lawn and landscaped some flower beds. and it looks nice! it's a great thing to do but it doesn't really mean anything beyond itself imo x-post
― I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, Matt, I kinda feel like it's a reaction to the alienation of consumerism and work that involves sitting in front of a computer all day. It's like they want to produce something in a way that requires physical labor.
― i don't know whether it's really popular in Canada as well (sarahel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Manliest Cities in America
― Let Amare go ham like he was all you can eating it (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link
After all, COMBOS® has been the 'Official Cheese-Filled Snack of NASCAR' since 2002."
― i don't know whether it's really popular in Canada as well (sarahel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link
is the study in decline? seems like the ultimate male room to me.
― ogmor, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, yeah. Who else should be the arbiter of a city's manliness than those who have been designated the OFFICIAL purveyor of cheese-filled snacks to NASCAR?
― Let Amare go ham like he was all you can eating it (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Paris is Burning is also very 'fake it 'til you make it' and yeah, it's probably one of the best films about anything, ever. However, I think most people are putting on a performance of themselves in public, whether they realize or not.
The idea sarahel mentions is not exactly a new thing. Last week I was sent off to interview that irrepressible gender warrior J3anette W1nt3rs0n, who owns an organic grocery in east London and totally endorses the idea that people who spend all day in a headspace *do* need physical labour, or at last the grasp and release of working hard on something with yr hands, because otherwise we are all just battery hens who happen to wear jeans.
― WHEN CROWS GO BAD (suzy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link
New Display Name. Awesome. And it has upped my masculinity 10x.
― Official Cheese-Filled Snack of NASCAR since 2002 (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link
did NASCAR have a different official cheese-filled snack before 2002?
― i don't know whether it's really popular in Canada as well (sarahel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link
one thing I've been noticing among my friends who are also urbanites, is a desire to return to the carpentry/construction/productive projects that we associate from the middle America of our youth.
This "phenomenon" makes my mother laugh; it was the same thing that got her and her entire generation through the 70s. I mentioned that my hipster (former ILXor!) friend was really into spinning wool and my mom was like, Yeah, no biggie, I did that.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Also to sarahel: there've been news stories (Oh hello NYT Style section!) for at least several years about aged hipsters giving up city/corporate life and moving upstate to raise goats organically or whatever. Wasn't news then, isn't new now.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link
so sorry I don't live in NYC or London - but it does seem like this isn't something that was a "trend" 8-10 years ago.
― i don't know whether it's really popular in Canada as well (sarahel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Hipster knitting was part of the same movement (actually it's the earliest example I can think of, but maybe I just didn't know any yuppies-turned-farmers then), and there were books about guerilla fiber arts and "stitch'n'bitch" groups 8-10 years ago. And I always thought etsy.com came out of that movement too: people wanted a way to showcase/sell the stuff they were making.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Actually, I kind of support that. Whatever forms we need communal folk crafts to take to pass to the next generation, go for it. Stitch-n-bitch / urban farming / carpentry / whatever.
I think this comes from reading all those Foxfire books when I was working a boring summer job at a historical village.
― Don Homer (kingfish), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link
If this is a movement, my moms would be an OG. She's been weaving, and winning state fair blue ribbons for it, for nigh on 30 years now.
― Official Cheese-Filled Snack of NASCAR since 2002 (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Semi-relevant, although I may wind up making a separate thread:
http://assets.theatlantic.com/static/front/images/magazine/covers/210x280/201007.jpg
It's the 20th annual End of Men! issue.
I can't tell whether this sort of thing is more a result of misandry (men are useless and dumb) or misogyny (women are power-hungry bitches who want to eliminate us), but either way it gets under my skin.
― hills like white people (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Like if we've been operating on the premise all these years that people should be judged by ability and not gender, and all these years men have been the overwhelming majority in every field, then why are we sounding alarms the moment women overtake men in something?
― hills like white people (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link
well sure, knitting, arts & crafts, the readymade magazine thing are the predecessors for the gardening/farming trend. And maybe it's not that recent, but I feel like this type of thing became more prevalent among members of and aspirants to "the creative class" post-dot com crash.
― i don't know whether it's really popular in Canada as well (sarahel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link
because it will sell THE IDEAS ISSUE of the Atlantic Monthly
― I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link
x-post
I found out recently that pulling weeds and planting stuff in your yard is kind of fun if you're not forced to do it. Is that manly or not or non of the above?
― bamcquern, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link
i think it depends on whether you have lower back problems as well as your class background and where you grew up
― i don't know whether it's really popular in Canada as well (sarahel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link
e
― bamcquern, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link
i no
― i don't know whether it's really popular in Canada as well (sarahel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link
My back's okay. I was middle class, but it's more complicated than that.
― bamcquern, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link
& I grew up in eff ell aye.
― bamcquern, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link
i grew up in a town where agriculture/agribusiness was the largest industry - i'm having trouble imagining planting things/pulling weeds as something fun, because i equate it so intensely with low-wage labor.
― i don't know whether it's really popular in Canada as well (sarahel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link
and as an educated middle-class white person i could avoid it and sit in an air-conditioned office - or something like that.
― i don't know whether it's really popular in Canada as well (sarahel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I never thought I would like it. It's only kind of fun because I don't have to. And starting a compost heap with my roommates at previous house was my gateway drug. Digging in dirt and trash I knew would be fun without even thinking.
― bamcquern, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link
a
"After Corey's death, the mummified body of Robert Worley (aka Robert Wells), was found in Corey's belongings with a gunshot wound to the head."
― The Black Keys - white boys can still throw down (crüt), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link
I want to know more about that but can only read the first page of the citation!!!! Who has the goods?
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link
The extent of my urban farming is herbs on the balcony and six months of Saturdays working on a farmer's market stall, but I like doing those things. In the suburb where I grew up, everyone had gardens with at least beans and tomatoes growing in them. I also hate with a passion anything you could label YARD WORK, having been press-ganged into doing a ton of it for my mom as a teenager, but if I had my own garden I might feel differently.
― WHEN CROWS GO BAD (suzy), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link
― The Black Keys - white boys can still throw down (crüt), Tuesday, June 22, 2010 8:55 PM (9 minutes ago)
haha i knew this, but did you read about the note left with the body? I can hear it read in her voice.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link
I grew up pretty much in a suburb (also in ef ell aye) with just my mom and our yard was always a mess. Our backyard especially was really overgrown and there was this huge bamboo tree taking over everything. It was a great place to play and I'm pretty sure I learned to love weeds and bugs back there.
In my dad's neighborhood everyone's lawn was way way manicured. All the kids in his neighborhood would dig huge holes in all the cul-de-sacs, destroying everything. I love gardening because any activity involving crouching and digging in the dirt is fun to me. My favorite part is squeezing the roots.
I once had this really ridiculous summer job planting restorative wetland plants along lake and river beds and it was soooo hard but it didn't make me hate yard work.
big loose compost heaps are the best. Gawd, having a semi office job is what makes me want to be outside and dirty when I'm not working. I guess because yard work was always presented to me as a leisure activity (except for that one job, but we were saving the environment!) it still feels leisurely to me.
― peacocks, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link
wow that was longer than I meant for it to be.
― peacocks, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link
and less coherent?
― peacocks, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link
I also hate with a passion anything you could label YARD WORK, having been press-ganged into doing a ton of it for my mom as a teenager, but if I had my own garden I might feel differently.― WHEN CROWS GO BAD (suzy), Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:00 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
― WHEN CROWS GO BAD (suzy), Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:00 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
totally---secretly love doing "chores," unless they're actual chores, prescribed by someone else.
also: virtually every "crafty" trend i've even mentioned in passing to my mom, she can locate somewhere in the 70s. really sort of amazed that anyone (except 20 yo hipsters) think they're reinventing the wheel when they get stoned and try and reinvent the wheel
― flapjackin (gbx), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link
well, were these "crafty" trends trendy in the 80s and 90s? i guess that's my real question.
― i don't know whether it's really popular in Canada as well (sarahel), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Next up: macrame and decoupage.
― nickn, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Man, I read some quote that was all "these young new women think they're doing something special and revolutionary by picking up needles and yarn and making themselves an angora toque, but really" from like the 1920s.
― breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link
just wait 'til kilns make a return
― Don Homer (kingfish), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link
HA! My cousin installed a state of the art kiln and turned her garage into a pottery about five years ago.
Crafts my mother did in the '70s: dried flower arrangements in baskets; cornucopia-type arrangements in baskets complete with varnished challah loaf and many, many dried gourds; wreaths; crocheting innumerable Afghans (besides the dogs, this is the reason ladies of a certain demographic can locate Afghanistan on maps); shell collections in lamp bases; arrangement of cattails and other dried marsh grasses in wicker baskets; God's Eyes; macramé; limited sewing of clothes; making jam out of a tree full of crab apples/the grapes on my aunt's trellis; needlepoint; rug hooking - but never, ever knitting. Most of those crafts make me want to stab my eyes out and there is a wicker ban in this apartment.
The only crafty thing I ever did in the '80s was to make Jackson Pollock-style sweatshirts and t-shirts using acrylic paint flicked onto plain tops.
― WHEN CROWS GO BAD (suzy), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 00:35 (thirteen years ago) link
i did hella rug hooking and cross stitch in the 80s, but i was a child
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link
has this been posted yethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oQ4hjQ_9Bc
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 06:40 (thirteen years ago) link
^^this
― Pies and Whispers (get bent), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 06:47 (thirteen years ago) link
I love the fact that a thread called "Marketing of Masculinity" is now all about knitting and sewing.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 07:09 (thirteen years ago) link
how can we best market knitting & sewing to men?
― The Black Keys - white boys can still throw down (crüt), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 07:19 (thirteen years ago) link
sharp objects?
― Pies and Whispers (get bent), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 08:30 (thirteen years ago) link
my sewing machine has more horsepower than your sewing machine
― crüt it out (dyao), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 08:31 (thirteen years ago) link
sew easy a caveman could do it
― Pies and Whispers (get bent), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 08:34 (thirteen years ago) link
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/219/475949396_d22244c595.jpg
― Pies and Whispers (get bent), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 08:48 (thirteen years ago) link
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/129/341792051_2bc38f8e02.jpg
― Pies and Whispers (get bent), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 08:49 (thirteen years ago) link
goatse, that last one
― ampersand (remy bean), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 11:28 (thirteen years ago) link
how's this for a masculine look - the sweater's hand-made by this boy's great-aunt:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4015/4672733796_bee5fce3f6_b.jpg
eat your heart out, hipster knitters
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 11:35 (thirteen years ago) link
i dunno about masculine, but it's certainly awesome
― Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 11:38 (thirteen years ago) link
My kid in a sweatervest that was knitted for me as a child by my Godmother's mother:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs429.snc3/24717_407929428782_556118782_5017459_69855_n.jpg
― kkvgz, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 12:01 (thirteen years ago) link
awwwThat is a great vest that definitely looks homemade. No one sells garments made of variegated yarn. It's a dead giveaway that it was gifted by a crafty relative.
― breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link
He looks a lot happier to be wearing it than the kid in Tracer's photo.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link
they're both beautiful!
― Pies and Whispers (get bent), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/25/the-stupidest-mens-produc_n_625532.html
― hills like white people (Hurting 2), Saturday, 26 June 2010 03:56 (thirteen years ago) link
That actually isn't very funny, sorry.
― hills like white people (Hurting 2), Saturday, 26 June 2010 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link
wow, didn't see this thread had a massive bump! everyone otm, especially Tiarnan who is imo near-unimpeachable on gender/gay issues
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 26 June 2010 12:13 (thirteen years ago) link
the bud light handbag one is my least favorite commercial of all time
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 05:31 (thirteen years ago) link
even tho there's a slight homophobic undercurrent ("your pants are too tight!") to it, i think the one of bros zinging bros is actually an acceptable entry into the "marketing of masculinity" canon -- forget which beer it's for tho
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 05:32 (thirteen years ago) link
always wonder how the women in these commercials feel -- if it's worse or equal to paying your rent by porn -- like having to be the chick in the bud light one where you find out that a dude would legit throw you off a cliff before he threw his beer off the cliff -- i know it's acting but still
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 05:33 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMDC76D9l94
― colnagl (cozen), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link
(...)
― surfer blood for oil (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link
What is the piece of music during the lolwomen part?
― the aztec mystic pizza (Stevie D), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link
haha that was my first question too
― Noise Pictorial Works Juvenile Fiction (Abbott), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link
REFUSED PARTY PROGRAMME
― Whiney G. Savagegarten (LOLK), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phv_ARrphac
― Whiney G. Savagegarten (LOLK), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link
that Sewing For Men and Boys is th emost horrifying thing I've seen all week. The black guy's in an eighties suit, the guy in the middle is rockin' it like it's 1976, and the boy upfront is Lord Byron.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link
My problem is, how do I convince my bf to go with me to see that movie without making him suspicious that it's all for 15 minutes of Statham screen time.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link
apparently that trailer is fan-made : /
― colnagl (cozen), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
when your collection of tough guys features someone called 'Randy Couture' you're surely doin it rong?
― Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
My boss just forwarded this to the entire department...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE
"I'm on a horse"
^^^^^granted, though, this is actually genuinely laugh out loud funny. (at least to 4 IT workers in a basement.) But is it the kind of advert this thread describes, or is it a pisstake of the kind of advert (or is it both a pisstake and also an ad playing on the same fears.)? I'm confused.
― procedurally generated todge (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link
both
― uNi-tArDs (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, i think
(or is it both a pisstake and also an ad playing on the same fears
this.
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link
a pisstake ad is never just a pisstake ad
― uNi-tArDs (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link
a pisstake ad is never just a pisstake
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link
but a piss is still a piss as urine gooooeess byyyyyeeee
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link
haha. awful.
― uNi-tArDs (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link
It's just odd, the layers, in both taking the piss out of manipulation, while still using that same manipulation. And somehow more effective (at least, if my boss is anything to go by) for that knowingness.
― procedurally generated todge (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link
well, good marketing depts wouldn't be known for lacking cynicism. not to the trick, then perform the trick behind the nod.
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link
http://current.com/shows/infomania/92581445_thats-gay-sissy-commercials.htm
hey everybody go f urself imo lol
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link
This is, quite frankly, the best response ever to Old Spice Man:
http://oldspice-kinkmeme.dreamwidth.org/460.html?thread=12748#cmt12748
(warning: contains implied slash but still SFW)
― Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link
old spice man seems totally out of place with the rest of those v clearly heteronormative ads imo
liiiike, the bit at the end when he's sitting on the horse and dude says "guess what? totally gay"---i'm pretty sure the ad is aware of that?
― pies. (gbx), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah but loads of stuff does that double bluff thing where it pretends to be subverting a norm by perpetuating it, this is especially prevalent in advertising now.
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link
no i get that, it's just---i had never seen the rest of those commercials and was kinda O_O at how they were so clearly informed by gay panic or w/e
like srsly that colorado speedway one was wild---two guys in pink sweaters, sipping tea!
― pies. (gbx), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link
It's kind of amazing how homoerotic some of the man ads can be.
― Theodore "Thee Diddy" Roosevelt (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link
it's interesting (maybe) how lots of these need to create a this-is-how-women-want-you-to-act context
also i feel like maybe they're designed to play on one level to another audience and another to another, so hm
― thomp, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
*strokes beard*
always thought the [uk?] lynx adverts were curious in their deflationary view of masculinity as now-lucked-out passive clueless sorts, sometimes literally being eaten by voracious impulsive nuts-style Babes. seems v british.
― ogmor, Thursday, 5 August 2010 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link
James May is on a mission to save modern man. Thirty years ago men were a resourceful, practical and dependable band of brothers. Today, somehow, they have been reduced to shambling, useless, half-drunk and unreliable oafs in the eyes of society, a reputation perpetuated by the popular culture of blokeishness, which says they're a bit pitiable, endearingly hopeless and completely unable to multi-task.
From Man Lab HQ, James leads a team of today's lost male souls on the slightly muddy but invigorating path to enlightenment. They face an array of inventive practical tests, learn how to deal with the mysteries of romance and reclaim the notion of teamwork in a series of daunting challenges that demonstrates to the world that men can be a dependable and admirable bunch rather than the tepid receptacles for sperm many now assume them to be.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00vsw36
― cozen, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 10:45 (thirteen years ago) link
??
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 10:54 (thirteen years ago) link
sounded dodgier to me before I actually googled the precise definition of receptacle :)
still, james may is a fandan
― cozen, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 10:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Well the word suggests receivership, "catching" if you will
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 10:57 (thirteen years ago) link
I can't stop hearing that programme description as being read by Julian Clary.
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 10:59 (thirteen years ago) link
half-drunk(...)Each week, James sets an example to his team of men by facing a breathtaking test of courage and skill that would be more at home in an action movie. They go to the pub quite a lot too.
also...
James May learns how to defuse an unexploded bomb and serenade a woman.
At the same time?
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 11:00 (thirteen years ago) link
The trailer makes grim viewing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8I6hN4Y3qg
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 11:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Why are there so many commercials featuring a few guys sitting around watching television?
― I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Monday, 20 December 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link
That's what real men should do. Add in: sit around and play videogames, sit around and eat, sit around and drink, and try to fuck anything that moves while sitting in a bar.
― Spectrum, Monday, 20 December 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Or maybe those commercials are just trying to create easy sympathy: "hey, those guys are watching TV too - just like us!"
― Spectrum, Monday, 20 December 2010 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Weird through-the-looking-glass effect. I guess maybe that's the point.
― I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Monday, 20 December 2010 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link
words used in ads aimed at boys:
http://www.achilleseffect.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/wordle-BoysToys-sm.png
words used in ads aimed at girls:
http://www.achilleseffect.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/wordle-GirlsToys-sm.png
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Sunday, 10 April 2011 13:07 (twelve years ago) link
from this: http://www.achilleseffect.com/2011/03/word-cloud-how-toy-ad-vocabulary-reinforces-gender-stereotypes/
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Sunday, 10 April 2011 13:09 (twelve years ago) link
Don't know if this is exactly germane to the thread, but those new Schick ProGlide Fusion "Face Off" commercials depress me somehow. I get this subtle vibe of defeatedness and desperation from them, like the men in them are all sort of trying to cling to this masculinity that doesn't make sense anymore but don't really feel much sense of purpose in general.
― bin caught laden (Hurting 2), Friday, 6 May 2011 00:46 (twelve years ago) link
Don't know if this is exactly germane to the thread, but most of the commercials mentioned in this thread depress me somehow. I get this subtle vibe of defeatedness and desperation from them, like the men in them are all sort of trying to cling to this masculinity that doesn't make sense anymore but don't really feel much sense of purpose in general.
Fixed.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Saturday, 7 May 2011 00:02 (twelve years ago) link
Last line of copy on my box of Dial For Men BLUE GRIT with MICRO SCRUBBERS:
Your hair covered, meat powered mansuit will be clean, smooth, and fresh all day.
I guess they just assume that no one will ever read the whole thing?
― flights are very long when you're ornery (los blue jeans), Monday, 27 June 2011 02:12 (twelve years ago) link
meat powered mansuit
when i read this, i see a motorized article of clothing made of dude's skins that you feed ground beef into
― mississippi john hurt, but alabama john feeling okay (m bison), Monday, 27 June 2011 02:15 (twelve years ago) link
those axe commercials use the phrase "man-hide"
― dirty deathdrone boys (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 June 2011 02:41 (twelve years ago) link
oh see, i think of something like Eddie Murphy's fat suit that is inflated by meat farts.
― sarahel, Monday, 27 June 2011 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
GOT 2 B MANLY!!! GRR
― brie on crüt (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 27 June 2011 02:44 (twelve years ago) link
My favorite of these was the Snickers commercial where Mr. T was all "hahah imma throw shit @ u bcz ur a faggot"
MAN CANDLES
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17mu7sk3ei7uljpg/original.jpg
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:09 (eleven years ago) link
omg they're actually called Man Candles
http://www.yankeecandle.com/assets/banners_730x190/summer_2012/CatBan_SUM12_730x190_WNew_mancandles.jpg
Though, tbh, they sort dropped the ball by not calling them mandles imo.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:12 (eleven years ago) link
oh mandlesyou came and you smelled like some gross shitso I wouldn't feel gayoh mandles
― he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:20 (eleven years ago) link
^ A+
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:23 (eleven years ago) link
oh my god
― horseshoe, Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:25 (eleven years ago) link
shit that has to be an snl skit
It's not!!!
What on earth do you think "Man Town" is supposed to smell like??
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:26 (eleven years ago) link
what is that purple one all the way to the left? "bean town"?
― horseshoe, Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:26 (eleven years ago) link
xp hahaha okay "man town"
― horseshoe, Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:27 (eleven years ago) link
"About This Fragrance - Escape to the man cave with this masculine blend of spices, woods and musk."
. . .
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:27 (eleven years ago) link
^ man town
man town smells like aftershave, starched french cuff shirts, fine cigars, polished leather, and the sweat of the oppressed
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link
man town just sounds like gay bar imo
― horseshoe, Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:31 (eleven years ago) link
I sorta zipped past that on Gawker today and thought it was a funny 'shopped picture. Now, though, my light chuckling has backed up and turned into dread and tears.
― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:32 (eleven years ago) link
xpost - lol
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:34 (eleven years ago) link
what's the difference between first down and mowing the lawn?
― dayo, Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:35 (eleven years ago) link
coming soon: ripe dick
"smell yo dick...with yankee candle"
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:36 (eleven years ago) link
omg rip dick - DAYO!
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:36 (eleven years ago) link
r.i.p. dayo's dick
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:37 (eleven years ago) link
hahahaa oops
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:37 (eleven years ago) link
its sad he was a genital
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:38 (eleven years ago) link
;_;
― dayo, Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:38 (eleven years ago) link
do not go genital into that good night
― dayo, Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:39 (eleven years ago) link
man town smells like ball sweat and feet
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:41 (eleven years ago) link
rage rage with your ripe wick against the dying of the light xp
― estela, Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:42 (eleven years ago) link
:)
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:44 (eleven years ago) link
dying
― dayo, Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:45 (eleven years ago) link
i want a man candle that captures the fragrance of despair over possibly turning into your father
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:46 (eleven years ago) link
old spice
― dayo, Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:48 (eleven years ago) link
old space
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:57 (eleven years ago) link
speechless
― judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 17 May 2012 01:00 (eleven years ago) link
I am buying you one and shipping; Plz send me yr address
― a parker full of poseys (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 17 May 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link
is there one that smells like "getting picked last in gym class"
― yorba linda carlisle (donna rouge), Thursday, 17 May 2012 01:10 (eleven years ago) link
is there one that smells like "i can wear these socks again"
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
"your family's profound but unspoken disappointment in you as you approach middle age"
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 17 May 2012 01:15 (eleven years ago) link
"eau de redditor"
― yorba linda carlisle (donna rouge), Thursday, 17 May 2012 01:21 (eleven years ago) link
"yesterday's pizza box"
― this guy's a gangsta? his real name's mittens. (Hurting 2), Thursday, 17 May 2012 02:12 (eleven years ago) link
"cable porn again"
― nickn, Thursday, 17 May 2012 03:16 (eleven years ago) link
"misplaced aggression (immigrants)""misplaced aggression (road rage)""paintballs""rush concert"
― he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Thursday, 17 May 2012 03:23 (eleven years ago) link
smells like this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7BP2Gclzj0
― Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Thursday, 17 May 2012 03:24 (eleven years ago) link
"assorted organ meats""church erection""tragically stoic"
― he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Thursday, 17 May 2012 03:26 (eleven years ago) link
"Clint Eastwood (dirty harry edition)""Clint Eastwood (2012 edition)""jorts"
― he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Thursday, 17 May 2012 03:28 (eleven years ago) link
"taylor ham"
― yorba linda carlisle (donna rouge), Thursday, 17 May 2012 03:30 (eleven years ago) link
"PUA basement meeting space"
― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 17 May 2012 03:34 (eleven years ago) link
Can't decide whether this really goes in this thread or not, but:
http://www.divorcelawyersformen.com/index_facebook.html
― eggleston or instagram? (Hurting 2), Sunday, 17 June 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.divorcelawyersformen.com/divorce_for_men2.png
― Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Sunday, 17 June 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
good lawyers, doing good things, for good men
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 17 June 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
totally belongs
― mh, Sunday, 17 June 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
jfc
http://dukecannon.com/
― before and after broscience (goole), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
that is the most punchable website I have ever seen
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
BIG VICTORY BRICK OF SOAPSmells Like Ass
― Paul McCartney, the Gary Barlow of The Beatles (snoball), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
feminine shower gels and accessories? oh, they hate loofahs
presumably the soap has pumice or something so they can exfoliate in a more manly way
― mh, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
how paranoid, adrift and cock-small must you feel to respond to this shit at all
― before and after broscience (goole), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
I started reading the mangina thing for lols but couldn't finish it, it was just too stupid to even laugh at
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
idgi, the real men this site is aimed at wouldn't even know how to use a computer
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
they'd be too busy pounding in railroad spikes with their erect penises
"The greatest stocking stuffer since G. I. figurines dolls for boys."
― nickn, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
gah, G. I. Joe.
And the Tampax thing. I'm not convinced it's not a gag site.
― nickn, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
Duke Cannon isn’t for everyone. And quite frankly, he prefers it that way.
After all, Duke Cannon doesn’t dine with Vegans and he could give a damn about your new Ipad. Duke Cannon comes from a different era--an era when men had a greater purpose than building spreadsheets and spending their Saturdays at Banana Republic.
In Duke’s time, men pursued meaningful endeavors. They worked with their hands. They took pride in the things they built, not the things they bought. And the mindset was simple: men wanted to win, not find the "win-win".
And then the whole metrosexual trend came and screwed men up even worse.
Now exists a generation of men who have spent more time in a Pottery Barn store than a hardware store. Hell no.
Needless to say, the Duke Cannon Supply Company is not a big fan of this trend. It’s time for man to devolve, not evolve.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
there's nothing more shamefully wussy than a man who is so terrified of femininity he cloaks himself in cartoonish lifestyle signifiers to reassure everyone around him that he's not actually a woman.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
it's a little like the dude behind this is afraid if he puts down his chainsaw and moves too far away from his truck, he will spontaneously give birth
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
'duke cannon' sounds like a gay porn stars name
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
'Duke Cannon Shoots With His Huge Balls'
― Paul McCartney, the Gary Barlow of The Beatles (snoball), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
duke cannon drops drop the duke cannon
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/Rzbdl.png
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
Phil otm
― mh, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
no, soldiers fight for their superiors in a chain of state power!
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
or something. it's definitely not "freedom of speech" as a bottom line whatever that means.
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
feel like this thread basically boils down to: men are terrified of and hate themselves.
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
ding ding ding
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
I thought that was all of humanity
― mh, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
also flipside: men are terrified of and hate women
― Spectrum, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
It's the half of humanity who apparently fear waking up in the morning and finding that their penis has been replaced with a vagina.
― Paul McCartney, the Gary Barlow of The Beatles (snoball), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
flipside more liek sameside
men are terrified of women's soap
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
feel like the duke cannon fbook page is just sitting there, ripe....
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
What I really get from this is that men want fancy soap they pay their hard-earned dollars for, too.
― mh, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
giant soap that does NOT smell like ladies
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
and looks like a urinal disinfectant block
― Paul McCartney, the Gary Barlow of The Beatles (snoball), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
no for real I started using this loofah thing that was on clearance for like $3 with some dove liquid "man soap" and I am starting to see why such a scrubby thing is useful
― mh, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
i don't understand who this soap's audience thinks is holding them down exactly. who or what is this soap going to rescue them from? perhaps "pussified" in soap terms could stand for the decline of the blue collar working class. all bad things in these men's terms are either "womanly" or "gay" regardless of meaning of nuance, so i think that wraps up all the loose ends.
― Spectrum, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link
it's going to rescue them from the urge to use expensive soap that is girly. this is expensive manly soap. these people still want expensive soap. this soap is rough and tough in some way that you have to pay cash money for, unlike a zillion cheap-as-hell soaps that also come in a bar.
it is the $200 trucker hat of bar soaps
― mh, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
or more accurately, the artisan-made hand axe
I would applaud if the soap was actually a dead porcupine
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
surely the point of the big ass brick is that it will do more damage when you wrap it in a towel and use it to savagely beat your fat incompetent co-recruit?
― Roobarb and Custos (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
There's a dead porcupine inside the soap?
― Paul McCartney, the Gary Barlow of The Beatles (snoball), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
xp it looks more like the kind of soap they'd use to scrub the floor of the 'head'
― Paul McCartney, the Gary Barlow of The Beatles (snoball), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
idk the commodity fetishism is as glaring as the gay panic -- if ~real men~ ever bought soap, back in the days of flintlock muskets, knifefighting monkeys and hereditrary syphilis, then it was presumably just whatever soap there was, since they were unlikely to patronize the sort of places that sold more than one soap
now even the most banal objects are sold in a hundred near-iterative forms, so producers attempt to successfully commodify an abstraction
'sexual adequacy' is just a more obvious fit for cosmetic goods than 'freedom', 'allure', 'discernment' etc
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOA6trFiU7w
― am0n, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
SHUT UP BITCHEZ AND EAT YR CHICKEN
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
i was a little O_O over that
the TV version splices that with the nephews ad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT8Fg5bwr-0
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
what's an "ass brick"
― slugbuggy, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 09:12 (eleven years ago) link
wow u ppl rly h8 men
― first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 09:41 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCpn2Dh1YuM
― Paul McCartney, the Gary Barlow of The Beatles (snoball), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
The most important consideration in that ad is...how is that stuff bacon?
― grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
http://d3.zedo.com/OzoDB/v/h/1541217/V1/TX_300x250_Vcut_Gooey_OWTMM_C44VDS.jpg
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 12 May 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link
how is that stuff bacon? that's what bacon looks like!
― i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Sunday, 12 May 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link
is the secret to performance of a grizzly bear eating geoduck? or is it just there because it looks like a giant cock?
― dylannn, Sunday, 12 May 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/zVweWZQ.jpg
― the most promising US ilxor has thrown the TOWEL IN (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Monday, 15 July 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link
Still can't get over this:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TUpOKtKpQcQ/Tq9z4hZUKQI/AAAAAAAAAmE/TQbksMhUQlg/s320/dr-pepper.jpeg
― pplains, Monday, 15 July 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link
BITCH, GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY DR. PEPPER. IT'S NOT FOR YOU.
― pplains, Monday, 15 July 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link
"You know this is just Diet Dr. Pepper in a different can, right?"
― Meine Damen und Herren, ein grosse sh*tstorm! (snoball), Monday, 15 July 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
BUT THESE CALORIES ARE "MANLY."
― pplains, Monday, 15 July 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link
if there are 10 manly calories in dr pepper 10, surely original dr pepper is 15x as manly
― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Monday, 15 July 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj242/donaldparsley/NFGsm_zps3bffe821.jpg
"Not For Girls"
― twerking for obvious reasons (contenderizer), Monday, 15 July 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link
er,
no fucking good
― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Monday, 15 July 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link
otm
― twerking for obvious reasons (contenderizer), Monday, 15 July 2013 14:23 (ten years ago) link
assume that's why it was marked down to 97 cents
― twerking for obvious reasons (contenderizer), Monday, 15 July 2013 14:24 (ten years ago) link
lol @ crapforabuck.com
http://crapforabuck.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/muddingr.jpg?w=420&h=315
― pplains, Monday, 15 July 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link
aw, thought i was neil armstrong of bad shampoo :(
― twerking for obvious reasons (contenderizer), Monday, 15 July 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/rQCahsR.jpg
― 乒乓, Friday, 25 October 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link
shut. up.
― a dessicated quasi-tsunami of gut-busting cosmic - tech (DJP), Friday, 25 October 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link
dying of lols over here
I wonder how they'll market the Activia version.
― nickn, Friday, 25 October 2013 22:30 (ten years ago) link
PLAIN
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 25 October 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link
YOGURT
"Thanks to the “mancession,” metrosexuals have become “manfluencers™”"
― etc, Friday, 25 October 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link
he looks like he's going to just spoon it directly into his navel
― CAROUSEL! CAROUSEL! (Telephone thing), Saturday, 26 October 2013 03:21 (ten years ago) link
and make loud OM NOM smacking sounds
― CAROUSEL! CAROUSEL! (Telephone thing), Saturday, 26 October 2013 03:22 (ten years ago) link
https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/733919_10151688987671485_34740678_n.jpg
― Stevie D(eux), Sunday, 27 October 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link
where is the revolver and single bullet and "fuck this world" stationary?
― shiny trippy people holding bandz (m bison), Sunday, 27 October 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link
http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae232/daggerlee/11DDE8D1-41BC-4A45-B164-4CA84CD3CE41_zpsu8uecsqz.jpg
― 乒乓, Saturday, 21 December 2013 19:02 (ten years ago) link
Her last name?
― pplains, Saturday, 21 December 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link
The Brotherhood of Shaving. Who invents this bullshit?
― Aimless, Saturday, 21 December 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link
they do
http://rs-swisse-cdn.noisybeastdigital.com/content/files/1000/151/boardroom-main.jpg
― pplains, Saturday, 21 December 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/IAZvvzg.jpg
― 龜, Sunday, 11 May 2014 00:50 (nine years ago) link
man town
― write 500 words of song (sleepingbag), Sunday, 11 May 2014 00:53 (nine years ago) link
"Man Town" just makes me think of this classic CUTECELSIOR post
I had 7 imaginary friends who were all bunny brothers and sisters... I was also a bunny. my name was... Funtown.― peacocks, Wednesday, May 12, 2010 3:27 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
― peacocks, Wednesday, May 12, 2010 3:27 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
― 龜, Sunday, 11 May 2014 01:04 (nine years ago) link
http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q686/tinyservants/Screenshot2014-05-10at115324PM_zps1da75978.png
― slam dunk, Sunday, 11 May 2014 03:56 (nine years ago) link
i thought they were real boots for 10 seconds!
― mattresslessness, Sunday, 11 May 2014 04:10 (nine years ago) link
"Camouflage" should actually just be a smoke bomb
― 龜, Sunday, 11 May 2014 04:13 (nine years ago) link
No seriously, these are all joke candles, right?
http://www.vh1.com/celebrity/bwe/images/2012/05/Yankee-Candles-Main-1337267181.jpg
Because I want one that smells like victory.
― pplains, Sunday, 11 May 2014 05:26 (nine years ago) link
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/27/93/ca/2793ca9f9cb203296d33110e3d650050.jpg
These aren't real, but it's getting more difficult to tell.
― pplains, Sunday, 11 May 2014 05:29 (nine years ago) link
"Prostate cancer", "Jizz" and "I don't need directions" scents obviously on the way
― it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Sunday, 11 May 2014 09:35 (nine years ago) link
glad to see you guys have discovered liartownusa
― gbx, Sunday, 11 May 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link
http://24.media.tumblr.com/01ba6f6b75489321a6fb1a67f197f784/tumblr_muhm1obJE21s71q1zo1_1280.png
― gbx, Sunday, 11 May 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
http://24.media.tumblr.com/d6b082611472398ac88d354ea750193f/tumblr_mtc1m85kli1s71q1zo1_1280.png
I think at times the "be a MAN" schtick is kind of useful as a stand-in for "be an ADULT," -- something that's kind of useful in an era of prolonged childhood. I mean it's really fucking lame when it gets used as an excuse for retrograde attitudes or GQ-type marketing bullshit - where being a man is equated to being some kind of all around great guy with a perfect smile and a cool haircut.But still, sometimes I find it helpful to say to myself "Be a man. Stop whining and pick yourself up," etc. even if that has hints of retrograde gender attitudes.― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Wednesday, December 9, 2009
― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Wednesday, December 9, 2009
i sometimes feel this way, too, but yeah, there is a lot of gender stereotyping in that notion, and it's probably better to think "be an adult, ffs." still, when "be a man" is used for marketing and many times generally, i don't think the idea behind it is to equate manliness with being "some kind of all around great guy with a perfect smile and a cool haircut." it's much more base than that: physical strength, aggression to hyper-aggression, quick decision-making, an instinct to protect women and children, a preference for decisiveness and action over thoughtfulness and caution, etc., smashing through things instead of trying to navigate around them. i know a lot of this is media-driven notions and obvious, anyway, but it's amazing how strong a hold these notions have over people (including me). even at 46, i still think back to experiences i had as a kid, and sometimes torture myself along these lines ("why didn't you just swing at them" kind of thoughts).
― Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 11 May 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link
Seward started posting those liartown posts last year. Yankee Candle must be fans too.
― pplains, Sunday, 11 May 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
http://www.pbdesigns.net/home/organiz/videomgmt/video-outline-GDL.pdf
the first page of this internal planning document from a PR firm trying to sell an overdriven premium cabernet blend from napa is sort of amusing
― the final twilight of all evaluative standpoints (nakhchivan), Monday, 13 October 2014 15:00 (nine years ago) link
LUXURY PEDIGREE GENTLEMAN
reads kind of like the grading rubric for a dog show
― i'd rather be arrested by you folks than by anybody i know (art), Monday, 13 October 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link
Voiceover: if not Jeffrey Stambor, then a sophisticated woman’s voice.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Monday, 13 October 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link
Facebook ad I saw today:
http://i.imgur.com/ORzCNsJ.png
― bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 14:27 (nine years ago) link
xp, it's kind of funny that anyone needs to hire a firm for the suggestion to use "luxury" and "tradition" in WINE marketing, like have we gone so far down the gazelle-on-the-label new Zealand Riesling road that we've forgotten that that's been like 99% of wine's marketing appeal for most of its history?
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 15:21 (nine years ago) link
I can't believe Manwich still exists.
― never say goodbye before leaving chat room (Crabbits), Saturday, 29 November 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link
Never even thought about it before, but you're absolutely right.
Made even more obvious by having Ron Swanson voice their ads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmILFcDNSsg
Manwich: The Dinner of Choice of Kids Living in the Year 1987 A.D.
― pplains, Saturday, 29 November 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
Isn't sloppy joe sauce just ketchup + mustard + chili powder?
― never say goodbye before leaving chat room (Crabbits), Saturday, 29 November 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link
I think Manwich's trick is tomato sauce as well.
And jizz.
― pplains, Saturday, 29 November 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link
just like mom used to make
― never say goodbye before leaving chat room (Crabbits), Saturday, 29 November 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaPcBwmCtiM
― slam dunk, Sunday, 30 November 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link
then they got more wacky for millenials and got really creepy:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j_cMGu9HY0
― slam dunk, Sunday, 30 November 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link
is hungry-man a big deal in the US? they only have 103 followers on twitter
― soref, Sunday, 30 November 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
Their consumer base is still prolly using chain email as its preferred social networking platform
― resting waterface (m bison), Sunday, 30 November 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link
Their consumer base is all dead from fatal heart attacks at age 25.
― pplains, Sunday, 30 November 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyU--Tb-MO4
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 November 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/JDgepQv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Zxk6uEe.gif
― pplains, Sunday, 30 November 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link
in case you don't have time to shit this week
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 November 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link
for the man on the... stay.
― pplains, Sunday, 30 November 2014 17:35 (nine years ago) link
I think that's the hardest a Morbs post has ever made me lol
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 30 November 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link
otm, i enjoyed that v much
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 November 2014 21:06 (nine years ago) link
C'mon, almost 1% of that is fiber!
― nickn, Sunday, 30 November 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/mxrk/status/546606308385116160
― Dej & the Fommly Loaf (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2014 12:28 (nine years ago) link
http://www.esquire.co.uk/culture/features/7588/the-rise-and-rise-of-the-spornosexual/
what the fuck is this. what the fuck is this word.
― goole, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link
http://www.esquire.co.uk/culture/features/7063/rise-of-the-spornosexual/
esquire what the fuck are you trying to do here
― goole, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link
This tendency towards buffness is a cultural phenomenon defined by author and journalist Mark Simpson as “spornosexuality”. The term, denoting men who strive to look like sportsmen or porn stars, marks the next stage in the evolution of the preening, mediated “metrosexual” (a word Simpson introduced to the public consciousness in a 1994 article in The Independent, then popularised in a 2002 piece for US news site salon.com).
mark simpson, please break up
― goole, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link
What a terrible word. No one is going to actually say that out loud. Esquire, pls stop trying to make spornosexual happen.
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:14 (nine years ago) link
lol @ how much better the "before" is here
http://assets.esquire.co.uk/images/uploads/fourbythree/_1080_43/Max-Olesker-promo-43.jpg
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link
No one is going to actually say that out loud.
I'm not even going to click on the link from work.
― pplains, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
Basically seems to mean "underwear ad model".
― how's life, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:18 (nine years ago) link
Sportellosexualhttp://cdnbakmi.kaltura.com/p/1151292/sp/115129200/thumbnail/entry_id/0_6buo3q0a/version/100002/acv/212/width/648/height/398
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link
Tbh I like his face better in the "after" but the body is mildly terrifying.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:47 (nine years ago) link
it's rather odd, like the personal trainer screwed something up
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:48 (nine years ago) link
Mark Simpson is good imo, haven't read that esquire article
― soref, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link
there must be some lipo/plastic surgery involved in the "after" jaw, right?
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link
the before picture has a lot of "make your face look schlubbier please" photographer instruction going on
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:05 (nine years ago) link
I don't think so? It didn't seem like he was that committed to the schtick except as something to write the article about. Just what you look like with 2% body fat or whatever. xp And yeah sure.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link
Not exactly on all fours with this thread, but I just saw a banner ad for a document shreader that said "NOW THIS IS AUTOMATIC SHREDDING" and I got this amusing image in my head of middle-aged men calling their neighbors over to check out the horsepower on the new shredder.
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link
Would also make a good Yngwie Malmsteen album title
― JRN, Monday, 23 February 2015 18:23 (nine years ago) link
http://www.gq.com/style/2015/04/gq-shoes-pants-tailoring-taper-jeans-sneakers
"I tie my Doc Marten laces around my ankles, with the knot in the back. Then I tuck the back of my 501s in and let the front hang over a little. I guess the idea is intensity without going full skinhead."
― tangenttangent, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 11:32 (eight years ago) link
http://zenkoyoga.com.au/real-blokes-do-yoga/
― drash, Friday, 8 May 2015 12:26 (eight years ago) link
‘Real Blokes Do Yoga’ is dedicated to lads, the fellas, the blokes, the athletes, the tradies and all the tough guys out there who are or might be thinking of taking up yoga.On this website, we will provide ‘blokey’ orientated advice on yoga in real world applications and try to keep it as practical and down to earth as possible. Stay tuned for interviews with real blokes doing yoga, instructional videos on yoga for all sorts of applications such as golf, surfing, soccer, AFL, rugby, tennis, boxing….and the list goes on.
On this website, we will provide ‘blokey’ orientated advice on yoga in real world applications and try to keep it as practical and down to earth as possible. Stay tuned for interviews with real blokes doing yoga, instructional videos on yoga for all sorts of applications such as golf, surfing, soccer, AFL, rugby, tennis, boxing….and the list goes on.
― drash, Friday, 8 May 2015 12:28 (eight years ago) link
#yogabantz
― p:s nerds know (dog latin), Friday, 8 May 2015 13:24 (eight years ago) link
#broga
― p:s nerds know (dog latin), Friday, 8 May 2015 13:26 (eight years ago) link
#piLADes
― p:s nerds know (dog latin), Friday, 8 May 2015 13:51 (eight years ago) link
― drash, Friday, 8 May 2015 13:55 (eight years ago) link
dog latin did you make that #broga joke and then gradually realise how great an idea it really is https://brogayoga.com/
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 15 June 2015 10:54 (eight years ago) link
yeah that's my company.
― hongro strulkington (dog latin), Monday, 15 June 2015 11:15 (eight years ago) link
i aim to get all my clients' chapras in line
― don't believe me, just wash (dog latin), Monday, 15 June 2015 11:20 (eight years ago) link
by doing the downward dawg
and frequent men-ditation
― don't believe me, just wash (dog latin), Monday, 15 June 2015 11:21 (eight years ago) link
Chest-bumping dog.
― nickn, Monday, 15 June 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link
this just showed up in my inbox - infantilising AND comically macho!
http://www.powertext.co.uk/account/106/units/885/BH_Father%27s_Day_2015%20middel.jpg
― bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 13:19 (eight years ago) link
Buzzfeed's take on apparently real products.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukebailey/masculinity-is-strong-and-powerful#.xy1Ndo908
― nickn, Thursday, 18 June 2015 05:10 (eight years ago) link
good lord @ "fragile masculinity" being a meme
― example (crüt), Thursday, 18 June 2015 12:21 (eight years ago) link
like I know men's products are the dumbest shit ever but after reading the words "masculinity" and "fragile" in close proximity so many times they become meaningless to me
― example (crüt), Thursday, 18 June 2015 12:22 (eight years ago) link
let's invert expectations by calling men fragile instead of strong. mind blown
― example (crüt), Thursday, 18 June 2015 12:24 (eight years ago) link
yeah. i think 'fragility' can a useful way to frame the anxieties of masculinity, but not because it subverts your expectations and blows your mind. men are weak, DO YOU SEE?
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 18 June 2015 13:03 (eight years ago) link
like, masculinity brings with it many advantages except that it is vulnerable from every direction. practically anything can destabilize it and anything less than its perfect performance can be mean ridicule, shame, exclusion, violence. it's under constant existential threat to such an extent that even any passing connection to anything non-masculine can poison it.
so 'fragility' in that sense is an essential characteristic; but it's what motivates men to militate against those threats, to exploit those fears in other men, to submit each other so much heartbreaking cruelty.
but yea
"men are teacups lol"
okay
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 18 June 2015 13:16 (eight years ago) link
Anyway, another overhead shot of a cup of coffee in that steak thing. This seems to be a thing now?
― 'come around to your house and fuck your ho' (paraphrase) (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 18 June 2015 13:29 (eight years ago) link
i somehow doubt that's coffee tbh
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, 19 June 2015 11:56 (eight years ago) link
no coffee only "bro fuel"
― Upright Mammal (mh), Friday, 19 June 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link
from that copy it almost looks like you're supposed to sit yourself at the grill and eat your steak straight off the grill as it's grilling.
― slugbuggy, Friday, 19 June 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link
i appreciate that the grill markings don't even match the grill plate that, for some reason, it's being served on??
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, 19 June 2015 20:49 (eight years ago) link
^good eye
― Aimless, Friday, 19 June 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link
shared the ridiculous buzzfeed list on facebook. a friend who shared it had someone comment that most of the marketing is supposed to be funny.
I think there's some truth, but it's a cynical ploy assuming "man humor" is dumb as hell, like "hah hah, a loofah that is for 'detailing' a man, hilarious"
yet another friend posted a link to this Coke Zero article we might have mentioned before: http://www.ajc.com/news/business/coke-zero-becomes-a-hero-for-coca-cola-co/nQkHh/
― Upright Mammal (mh), Friday, 19 June 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link
I'm trying to cut down my soda intake as much as possible, but I drink Coke Zero about once a week. Nothing to do with marketing at all; it tastes a lot better than Diet Coke, which always tastes like aluminum even when it comes out of a bottle. And regular Coke is out of the question 'cause I'm diabetic.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 19 June 2015 22:26 (eight years ago) link
yah, I think the fact it is a new product helped them, but tbrr the reason it is doing better among men than diet coke does is because it lacks "diet" in the name
― Upright Mammal (mh), Friday, 19 June 2015 22:43 (eight years ago) link
the coke zero bottle is dimpled like a football. when i guzzle a coke zero it feels like i'm wrapping my sweaty beefy mitts around the very essence of manly sensation.
also the masculine bedroom in the buzzfeed thing has yellow and pink accent colors. wherever that comes from it's for bros who know what accent colors are.
― slugbuggy, Saturday, 20 June 2015 05:04 (eight years ago) link
like the apotheosis of masculine styling is a complete disregard for styling in the most slovenly way possible; styling a masculine bedroom is a tautological impossibility.
― slugbuggy, Saturday, 20 June 2015 05:22 (eight years ago) link
poor choice of targets is what i'm sayin
― slugbuggy, Saturday, 20 June 2015 05:37 (eight years ago) link
yea but nah, advertisers create & market to class & competence based anxieties around masculinity, gotta have the aspirational drive man, gotta have a cool pad ladies will relax in, gotta get some tasteful bed linens like a fuckin BOSS
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Saturday, 20 June 2015 08:15 (eight years ago) link
so much tension. i'm up on my game, i got the details on lock like having the highest thread count sheets/ vanity is a feminine quality, i don't sweat the details like noticing thread counts. as an industry, how do we monetize this dissonance, is what yer saying.
― slugbuggy, Saturday, 20 June 2015 08:54 (eight years ago) link
i think
― slugbuggy, Saturday, 20 June 2015 08:55 (eight years ago) link
contemporary masculinity = purposefully utilitaristic but incidentally tastefully curated nonchalance? or always so?
― slugbuggy, Saturday, 20 June 2015 09:10 (eight years ago) link
it's not really so monolithic, imo, i just think there are tons of different varieties of masculinity used to sell to men of various demographics, the thing is they each do the "no true scotsman" thing to each other but along the lines of "NO REAL MAN"
so yea its confusing, which is i think partly why we get machismo in our fuckin yogurt these days
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Saturday, 20 June 2015 10:57 (eight years ago) link
http://www.qualitylogoproducts.com/blog/scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/
― how's life, Saturday, 20 June 2015 13:09 (eight years ago) link
^ My first thought when I saw that we were talking about Coke Zero was "lol, like the smashing pumpkins song. Someone had to have at least thought about tying that in." And apparently...
― how's life, Saturday, 20 June 2015 13:12 (eight years ago) link
styling a masculine bedroom is a tautological impossibility
hugh hefner disagreed
― Aimless, Saturday, 20 June 2015 16:19 (eight years ago) link
yeah, i meant that's why i can't take the "fragile masculinity" trope seriously in the masculine bedroom example. even if a fragile masculinity strawman picks out the manliest throw pillows possible, he's still shopping for throw pillows, which presumably he would consider an effete endeavor to be avoided, if he was that paranoid about his own masculinity.
― slugbuggy, Saturday, 20 June 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link
uh a dude just buys the cheapest sheet set at a department store in a neutral color and like two pillows for the bed. I totally did this in my early years of living alone. I don't think I had any throw pillows unless you count the ones that came with my couch.
― Upright Mammal (mh), Saturday, 20 June 2015 21:52 (eight years ago) link
All pillows can become throw pillows with enough arm force
― not a garbageman, i am garbage, man (m bison), Saturday, 20 June 2015 22:15 (eight years ago) link
i'm not talking about how people really behave, i'm mocking the fragile masculinity strawman construction. like the men's tea thing, the strawman who won't buy tea unless it's a MANS tea probably wouldn't be buying any variety of yogi tea anyway because of chakras and crystals and all that.
― slugbuggy, Sunday, 21 June 2015 07:25 (eight years ago) link
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Huh, I've mostly just seen "fragility" in conjunction with "whiteness" lately although used to describe masculinity it makes more sense tbh
― The Reverend, Sunday, 21 June 2015 10:04 (eight years ago) link
also given the choice between Coke Zero and Diet Coke I will always go with C0 cause DC is some New Coke garbage
― The Reverend, Sunday, 21 June 2015 10:05 (eight years ago) link
How strawmanny is this strawman, though? I don't think that many ppl would be ~consciously~ nervous or angry abt buying "lady" products but I do think that there are a great many ppl for whom it would not even occur that they, like, even have the option of buying these "lady" things, like "oh that's girly, that's not for me", and this sort of OTT "joke"-masculine marketing of masculinity provides sort of arm-around-the-shoulder "HA HA HA exaggerated comical manliness, right guys?? (no but rly fellas, it's safe for you to buy this thing now)"
like I feel like it's maybe used to "humorous" effect just to put ppl at ease
― WE WANT FET WAP (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 22 June 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link
every time i see one of those ironic "masculine" advertisements. (surely old spice and whatever that iteration of dr pepper was are the paradigm for this) i think of the "irony bribe" idea: http://commstudies.utexas.edu/sites/commstudies.utexas.edu/files/attachments/cloud/ironybribe.pdf
― ryan, Monday, 22 June 2015 14:38 (eight years ago) link
(as in, you can find a salve for your masculine anxiety in this product but of course you don't really suffer from any masculine anxiety it's just a goof you're totally manly the way you are)
― ryan, Monday, 22 June 2015 14:40 (eight years ago) link
there are entire categories of products that some men feel weird about buying. idgi. like men will not buy lotion even if their skin is gross because it's somehow feminine? there was a dude who maintained the warehouse area at my dad's workplace who wouldn't buy toilet paper for the restroom. I guess he'd never bought toilet paper in his life?
I think 2/3 of men's face lotions have to specifically claim they're "after shave" or "after shave lotion" even if it's just normal face lotion because why would men need lotion
― Upright Mammal (mh), Monday, 22 June 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPyNEbLnZh0
― ogmor, Monday, 22 June 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link
How strawmanny is this strawman, though?
it's not really so monolithic, imo, i just think there are tons of different varieties of masculinity used to sell to men of various demographics
i think what patron sailor said was otm: there are different ways to be male or masuline-identitied in this culture and marketing largely reflects that. "i'm not a chick" is def one of those demographics, but not the only one by far. the fragile masculinity trope is kinda tone-deaf in that it doesn't differentiate; it just finds anything marketed to men in general and reduces it to a convenient singular stereotype of the brutish mancave dweller. that's just lazy, and it's not smarter than the marketing it supposedly skewers.
― slugbuggy, Monday, 22 June 2015 21:22 (eight years ago) link
can't believe someone marketed something pls hlp
― gristly adams (darraghmac), Monday, 22 June 2015 21:27 (eight years ago) link
darragh do u even man
― Upright Mammal (mh), Monday, 22 June 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link
irl lol
― gristly adams (darraghmac), Monday, 22 June 2015 21:32 (eight years ago) link
actually
― irl lol (darraghmac), Monday, 22 June 2015 21:33 (eight years ago) link
― Upright Mammal (mh), Monday, 22 June 2015 21:42 (eight years ago) link
there was a dude who maintained the warehouse area at my dad's workplace who wouldn't buy toilet paper for the restroom. I guess he'd never bought toilet paper in his life?
didn't realise that using toilet paper was a feminine thing to do but well i guess if i wanna remain masculine i must make sacrifices
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 22 June 2015 22:38 (eight years ago) link
just manscape when it gets too clumpy
― irl lol (darraghmac), Monday, 22 June 2015 22:47 (eight years ago) link
real men use bidets.
― ryan, Monday, 22 June 2015 22:48 (eight years ago) link
real men don't buy paper products, you mom buys those and then your wife when you move directly from your parents' home
― Upright Mammal (mh), Monday, 22 June 2015 23:27 (eight years ago) link
I was listening to broadcast FM radio yesterday and discovered the haircut chain Sportsclips ends with "pick up your manhood and grab your Y chromosome and come to Sportsclips!"
They also had a line to the effect of, "You know those tv shows you watch with your wife about cupcakes and flowers? We don't have those, we have sports all the time"
The phrasing is off, but they really did say "cupcakes and flowers"
― Upright Mammal (mh), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 13:42 (eight years ago) link
As a man, I avoid cupcakes. They go straight to my thighs.
― cod latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 13:45 (eight years ago) link
So do sports.
― Norse Jung (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 14:41 (eight years ago) link
grab both ur y chromosomes
― 2011’s flagrantly ceremonious rock-opera (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link
"the only unassailable masculine act is policing masculinity" is a truthbomb once dropped on me
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 17:57 (eight years ago) link
except women do it all the time ofc
― ogmor, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link
brosébrosébrosébrosébrosébrosébrosébrosébrosébrosébrosébrosé
― goole, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link
Kinda feel like this belongs here: Ed Hardy and Von Dutch designer Christian Audigier dead at 57.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 10 July 2015 13:36 (eight years ago) link
I never pronounced him. :(
― how's life, Friday, 10 July 2015 13:37 (eight years ago) link
http://consumerqueen.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/bounce_dryer_sheets.jpg
― half the staying power of Erasure (Eazy), Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link
ah, so that's where "homies" came from.
― pplains, Thursday, 3 September 2015 16:39 (eight years ago) link
PURE SPORT
― marcos, Thursday, 3 September 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link
Nothin' *soft* about this fabric softener!
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 3 September 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link
Every 'men's scent' product smells like some bullshit to me. Weirdly atringent or piney or something.
― Simply Sensational (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 September 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link
they mostly make me want to throw up. I use an unscented deodorant.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 3 September 2015 16:45 (eight years ago) link
they all smell like a cheapass version of stetson or old spice
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 3 September 2015 16:46 (eight years ago) link
Yes, basically.
― Simply Sensational (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 September 2015 16:50 (eight years ago) link
They smell like someone's dad mowing the lawn. I mean, not literally, but you know what I mean.
― Simply Sensational (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 September 2015 16:51 (eight years ago) link
you can't get a peppery musk to smell good after being blasted on to dryer sheets, stuck on a shelf, and then baked on to clothing in a dryer
who'd have thought
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 3 September 2015 16:54 (eight years ago) link
dudes get wiped out, totally
http://www.amazon.com/Dude-Wipes-Flushable-Singles-Travel/dp/B008LXBZF2
― welltris (crüt), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link
DUDE WIPES: FOR YOUR ASSHOLE
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 18:36 (eight years ago) link
Dude Wipes are the first wipes for Dudes, ever. You use 'em after toilet paper during any duece and the rest is chill. Also great for a quick clean up of your face, hands, armpits, and dude regions. They'll keep ya fresh and stunna anywhere and everywhere. I Guarantee It (Men's Wearhouse Voice)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link
Saw these at Kroger and just assumed they had already been - ahem - covered on this thread already.
― pplains, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 18:39 (eight years ago) link
You use 'em after toilet paper during any duece and the rest is chill. Also great for a quick clean up of your face, hands, armpits, and dude regions.
I feel like anyone who actually is going to pay money for these are going to need much more explicit directions than this.
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link
apparently they're also going to need dudelier wipes:
9 of 13 people found the following review helpful1.0 out of 5 starsSimply an individually packaged babywipeBy Evan on January 10, 2014With the nice modern image and masculine name, I expected a wipe that would have some sort of masculine scent to it. Upon receipt, I was surprised to find out they smell very much like an baby wipe. Not worth it.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link
packaging looks great but the scent is not manly at all. Its like they repackaged women's wet wipes.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 18:45 (eight years ago) link
You use 'em after toilet paper during any duece and the rest is chill
dang this is just wonderful
― nomar, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link
during??
― welltris (crüt), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 19:01 (eight years ago) link
it's very normal for both men and women to use these "wipes" in japan. i use them and was baffled at why it never caught on in north america (where people smell worse than in japan).
but if you want a super clean asshole you go with a washlet/bidet, obviously. can't recommend it enough!
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link
In my elementary school, it was known that "dude" was slang for an elephant butt hair. Good name.
― how's life, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link
They HAVE caught on in America for years and are a huge problem for metropolitan sewer systems.
Xp
it must be city-specific. i've lived in a few different cities in north america and have only seen the men's ones maybe once or twice. so i usually use the women's ones, which are available everywhere.
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 19:32 (eight years ago) link
Oh, I've never noticed a gender specificity. I'm just talking about generic wet wipes.
― how's life, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 19:35 (eight years ago) link
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:42 PM (53 minutes ago)
pretty self-explanatory, do a deuce, grab a wipe, swab the hole the face the hands the pits the junk, DONE
― j., Tuesday, 29 September 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link
maybe i just assumed the generic wet wipes was a women's thing? whoops.
at any rate, it's good news!
now if we can get bidets installed in every toilet in the us/canada!
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link
tbh they never caught on in the US because it clogs up plumbing and americans are grossed out by the idea of something with poo on it being in their trash can
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link
...and rightfully so?
― pplains, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link
can't they make them flushable? it says flushable on the packaging
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link
Oh wait, you're probably not supposed to use a dozen at one time, are you?
― pplains, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link
it's flushable if you have excellent plumbing, your city has a sewer system in amazing condition, and a water treatment plant that is in tip-top shape
I think nowhere in north american qualifies. Especially not apartment buildings.
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link
it's flushable in the sense of "if we write 'flushable' on the package people will buy it, and our other division sells liquid-plumr"
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:15 (eight years ago) link
well, i've been flushing them in my last three apartments, and have never had a clogged toilet, knock on wood.
ugh. i wonder if they're causing some other problems down another pipe for other people
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:18 (eight years ago) link
it's a safe bet
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:20 (eight years ago) link
somewhere there is a tiny plumber in overalls with a giant mustache shaking his fist at you
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:21 (eight years ago) link
mamma mia!
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:23 (eight years ago) link
i think it's time to install that portable bidet i've been putting off
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:25 (eight years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31cRIZBgiAL._SY300_.jpg
― brownie, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:26 (eight years ago) link
actually it is an electronic washlet. they advertise in japanese magazines and sites here in la. it's a toilet seat that goes on the toilet. i'm sure amazon has some, as well
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link
http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201401/11/45/b0309645_1016563.jpg
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link
so a toilet that pees on YOU
― j., Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link
what a world
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:38 (eight years ago) link
it's more of a squirt but you can adjust the strength
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link
http://detailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/pressurewasher.jpg
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4P1eFyQEz-8/maxresdefault.jpg
― nomar, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link
cigarette is a nice touch
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:42 (eight years ago) link
lmao
― marcos, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link
cool techno mix
― mattresslessness, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:57 (eight years ago) link
outtakes from the Kraftwerk 3D tour
― welltris (crüt), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link
potable bidet
― deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 21:12 (eight years ago) link
Haha, now I get Dudes Wipes ads on my facebook sidebar.
― nickn, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 23:35 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/Bepem0z.jpg
Seriously, this could be a BOSE ad in Parade Magazine, circa. 1992.
― pplains, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 00:16 (eight years ago) link
lol that techno mix one reminds me of like warp artificial intelligence
― marcos, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 00:19 (eight years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/02/fashion/mens-style/27-ways-to-be-a-modern-man.html
17/27
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 1 October 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link
I think this 1982 milestone hasn't been in the thread yet:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51AUh8mrS3L._SL500_AA300_.jpg
― my harp and me (Eazy), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 17:42 (eight years ago) link
Everyone talks about the Atari and Pan Am logos in Blade Runner. I think one of the biggest anachronisms is in the beginning during the narration, where Deckard says something like, "My ex-wife used to make me eat sushi."
Like, sushi and quiche were in the same pussy boat, as far as 1982 was concerned. Even people in 2017 knew that.
Anyway. Don't forget the sequel:
http://i.imgur.com/SldqUc9.jpg
― pplains, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 18:17 (eight years ago) link
Bruce Feirstein is a hella gay name.
― how's life, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link
never understood this abt quiche. eggs, meat/veggies/combo, cheese, and pie crust. nothing on this list is definitively un-masculine and it is easy as fuck to make. literally just mix all that shit together and throw it in the oven, in 30-45 mins u have a healthy protein rich meal that took minimal effort and also is delicious.
just saying, fucking quiche
― INTOXICATING LIQUORS (art), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 18:48 (eight years ago) link
quiche is french ergo it is gay
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link
and what could be less masculine than two men having sex with each other
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 18:50 (eight years ago) link
Two men having sex with a quiche.
― Beezbo's Magic Does It Again! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link
I dunno, one of them having a vagina?
― pplains, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 18:53 (eight years ago) link
Yes, you're right, a man with a fully-functioning female reproductive system is probably the least masculine thing I can think of.
― Beezbo's Magic Does It Again! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link
What about a quiche with a vagina?
― downfall as in the film about Hitler? If so great film (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link
Be a crepe, don't eat one. #realmen
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link
Real men don't eat that either, I"m sure. post
― my harp and me (Eazy), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link
Successful masculine marketing imo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq3JVAzar0A
― thread of getting sw0le and lena jokes (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link
Pancakes are masculine, crepes are not. Apple pie is masculine, eggs in a pie crust are not. Clearly and unsurprisingly, eggs seem to be the emasculating culprit.
― Beezbo's Magic Does It Again! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link
― Beezbo's Magic Does It Again! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, November 17, 2015 12:55 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
there are trans ppl more butch than me, that is for sure
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 01:03 (eight years ago) link
yeah uhhhh I think at this point in history you reaaaaally need to recalibrate yr ideas of masculinity (which is gendered) if you think it's inextricably linked with reproductive systems (which are biological)
― cory artangel (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 03:46 (eight years ago) link
#latepass #bookmarks #lol
― cory artangel (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 03:47 (eight years ago) link
welcome
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51At%2B8FS-IL.jpgA shot of adrenaline, a surge of raw power, a current of electricity running from head to toe. Animal Rage allows you to stalk the weights, to dominate the gym, to make the competition run and hide. Taken just before you wreak havoc in the weight room, Animal Rage is more than a mere preworkout supplement, it is a bodybuilder's secret weapon, an ergogenic wrecking ball ready to be swung. You are a predator, the iron your prey - make it fear your power, let it bear witness to the strength of Animal Rage.
― lute bro (brimstead), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 06:24 (eight years ago) link
I prefer Plant Rage
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 06:27 (eight years ago) link
vegan friendly soy rage
― I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 06:35 (eight years ago) link
great find but u buried the lede: SLAUGHTERMELON
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 08:10 (eight years ago) link
other flavors available (i am not making this up):Grape of WrathLemon SlayedMango Unchained
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 08:13 (eight years ago) link
"You are a predator, the iron your prey" - thought it was talking about housework for a moment.
― inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 10:19 (eight years ago) link
I prefer Plant Rage― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:27 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:27 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Misread that as "I prefer Plant Page"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Quarter:_Jimmy_Page_and_Robert_Plant_Unledded#/media/File:Page_%26_Plant_-_No_Quarter.jpg
― how's life, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 12:50 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/R0KJWlY.jpg
ERGOGENIC WRECKING BALL READY TO BE SWUNG.
― pplains, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 08:13 (7 hours ago) Permalink
Fruit PunchPapaya Sailor ManAtomic PomIs the Peach This Way?Linebacker Nectarine
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 15:47 (eight years ago) link
Apple Boss
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 18:06 (eight years ago) link
Pom-O-Granite
― nickn, Thursday, 17 December 2015 00:48 (eight years ago) link
Slightly off-topic but I had to put this somewhere:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3UsNqECQAAGljB.jpg
― a cruet of destiny (seandalai), Thursday, 24 December 2015 18:25 (eight years ago) link
dying @ papaya sailor man
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 24 December 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link
Ladies, you are better than this.
― pplains, Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:20 (seven years ago) link
I don't know if there's a marketing of femininity thread, but those are as dumb as any man cave you're going to find.
― pplains, Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:21 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/ew0cXlx.jpg
She shed. I know what it's like to be dead.
― pplains, Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:22 (seven years ago) link
Eh, those are just tiny houses that women realized they didn't want to live in but had to do something with. SheShed is born!
― Jeff, Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:24 (seven years ago) link
more like making me feel like I've never been born.
― pplains, Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:29 (seven years ago) link
Because She Shed sounds like the name of that Beatles song.
no no no you're wrong
this is the dumbest thing i have ever seen
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:33 (seven years ago) link
STOP SAYING "SHED"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x44uICQcNx4
And if you thought my Beatles joke was bad, just wait for the pun they end that spot with.
― pplains, Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:43 (seven years ago) link
Oh. There it is in the title.
ONG yes Ive seen that "She Sheds" thing in various clickbait formats posted to FB, and I'm like... arent these just regular conservatories and garden room type places? Stop giving things stupid fucking names.
― Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:48 (seven years ago) link
'herbitat' is probably too ambiguous
― mookieproof, Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:50 (seven years ago) link
this is my herpe place
― mandatory sex webinar (contenderizer), Thursday, 28 April 2016 01:36 (seven years ago) link
"Hey, Bob! Where's the wife? Out in her 'she shed'?"
"'She shed.' I like that... I mean, yes. She's busy in her 'she shed,' I'll give her your regards."
― pplains, Thursday, 28 April 2016 02:02 (seven years ago) link
she's out behind the wall-o-gina
― mookieproof, Thursday, 28 April 2016 02:03 (seven years ago) link
sighted: axe-brand loofah touted as a "double-sided shower tool"
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 1 May 2016 19:35 (seven years ago) link
i hope the ladies making these little pinterestscapes are just using them to get high in
― no one in particular (Abbott), Monday, 2 May 2016 04:17 (seven years ago) link
I think I'd have some sort of migraine if I had to sit in a little shed full of lacy doilies and frilly curtains and 1 billion cushions.
― Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Monday, 2 May 2016 06:15 (seven years ago) link
it's almost like a little doll house... where... you become the doll.
― pplains, Monday, 2 May 2016 13:35 (seven years ago) link
and again, the man caves are even dumber, but I think that point's been belabored a bit more than these projects.
― pplains, Monday, 2 May 2016 13:36 (seven years ago) link
― no one in particular (Abbott), Monday, May 2, 2016 12:17 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Monday, May 2, 2016 2:15 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm and otm. they don't even look comfortable!
― ejemplo (crüt), Monday, 2 May 2016 13:45 (seven years ago) link
there's a weird facebook group that has a specific title like "tiny house owners for hillary 2016" that I read for way too long the other day
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 2 May 2016 14:02 (seven years ago) link
hold me closer, tiny house owner
― pplains, Monday, 2 May 2016 15:16 (seven years ago) link
amazing
― nomar, Monday, 2 May 2016 16:15 (seven years ago) link
tbh i really loved the "she shed she shed" puns
― sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 01:25 (seven years ago) link
She shed baby, it's understood.
― pplains, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 02:35 (seven years ago) link
She sells she sheds by the Etsy Store.
― Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 06:59 (seven years ago) link
how come someone hasn't noticed that i'm dead and decided to bury me?
― mahb, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 12:12 (seven years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/06/fashion/mens-style/mens-book-clubs.html
Unlike the Marin County group, the International Ultra Manly Book Club is not big on the dinner-party element. When one of its members does bring food to one of the monthly get-togethers, it tends to be “manly — like, spicy,” said John Creagar, 32, one of the regulars.
― JoeStork, Thursday, 5 May 2016 03:59 (seven years ago) link
Hey, look, a non-shitty Jezebel post!
(Seriously, it's really good.)
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 6 May 2016 17:54 (seven years ago) link
Footnote: John Boehner did not cry in public because he is a vulnerable and sensitive guy, but because he is maudlin.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 6 May 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link
ime old men who tear up at things usually do so at things they have no idea how to relate to the emotions they're having and something leaks through their grizzled (or orange) exteriors
― μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 6 May 2016 18:43 (seven years ago) link
crying as indulgence mentioned in article
― μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 6 May 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link
damn, that is good!
― map, Friday, 6 May 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link
http://money.cnn.com/interactive/technology/15-questions-with-ben-lerer/index.html?iid=ob_homepage_tech_pool
Ben Lerer has been running his company Thrillist for the past decade -- and he’s only 34. He and his college friend started it as a niche newsletter for men. It’s has since evolved into a lifestyle media company that informs guys about where to drink, eat and shop in 40 cities around the world.
― nomar, Sunday, 19 June 2016 02:45 (seven years ago) link
What's the most important company we've never heard of?
Important is a weird word. My favorite? Have you heard of Casper, the mattress company? Maybe.
perfect
― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 19 June 2016 02:55 (seven years ago) link
I feel like Thrillist is not doing a great job marketing masculinity because I'm sure I've looked at tons of things on that site and had no idea it was meant to be for "guys"
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 19 June 2016 03:13 (seven years ago) link
Like I feel like it's the place you end up if you're in the airport and you google where should I eat in this airport
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 19 June 2016 03:14 (seven years ago) link
that is very evocative of a mood with some limitations
― μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 19 June 2016 03:15 (seven years ago) link
What about your job most excites you?
My coworkers. They rock. It's really fun to have a ton of super smart people all swimming in the same direction and focused on solving the same big problems.
http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/interactive/technology/15-questions-with-ben-lerer/images/01-lerer-coworkers.jpghttp://media0.giphy.com/media/jiTcwb3Zr0G08/200.gif
― nomar, Sunday, 19 June 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link
I don't wanna freak you guys out but I'm pretty sure the bearded dude in the front is the "so not gonna happen" guy
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 19 June 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link
not sure if it counts as "marketing", but i wasn't sure where else to put it
http://adequateman.deadspin.com/the-writing-men-want-you-to-know-theyve-been-very-very-1782824105
― nomar, Friday, 1 July 2016 16:59 (seven years ago) link
using masculinity to market your writing angle
― μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 1 July 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link
https://66.media.tumblr.com/fa83ce13adf609641df7bbe8df5ea66b/tumblr_ob5wt303Iw1qzud8eo1_1280.jpg
― 龜, Sunday, 31 July 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link
i can't quite decide if that's aimed at teenage boys or not.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 31 July 2016 14:45 (seven years ago) link
dasharez0ne present dude diariesSICK SKELENTONSTALK ABOUT IRRITIABLE BOWEL SYNDROMEJUDAS PRIEST LOGOSWHY DONT GIRLS LIKE ME
― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Sunday, 31 July 2016 14:48 (seven years ago) link
http://thedudebook.com/
what is this, even
http://dvsb02a980z44tclh1cf1kex.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/whack.jpg
― soref, Sunday, 31 July 2016 14:51 (seven years ago) link
http://dvsb02a980z44tclh1cf1kex.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/10946675_898597776825452_1446500492_n-196x196.jpg
― soref, Sunday, 31 July 2016 14:52 (seven years ago) link
forgot "dick" rmde
― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Sunday, 31 July 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link
That "dude diary" cover has a dinosaur and a bug on it and "open in a well-ventilated area" is a fart joke. it is definitely aimed at 11 and 12-year old boys.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 31 July 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link
tween masculinity
― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Sunday, 31 July 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link
"whack"
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 02:48 (seven years ago) link
that book is custom made for absentee aunts panicking on the night before their nephew's tenth birthday
― remy bean, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 03:02 (seven years ago) link
http://www.mancrates.com
this was posted by someone else on another thread, seems relevant.
― nomar, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 23:59 (seven years ago) link
surely the "Pipe Carving Kit" is intentionally funny?
Whether he’s talking to a hand-carved pipe or a small child, there’s no prouder words in a man’s vocabulary than, “I made you.” Sure, he could commission a custom pipe to his exact specifications--and after that, he could pay another man to change his oil and tell him who to vote for...
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/24/7f/6e/247f6eee6279ac17c0ea83cb5d93f0b2.jpg
http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server3800/5b8ee/products/127/images/1904/fb_epic_pipe_carving_tool_kit_giftset__60955.1452208530.324.324.jpg?c=2
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/de/fe/37/defe37be35ceb1a437073cdb43fbb9a1.jpg
― soref, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 00:12 (seven years ago) link
I guess there are two types of men:
jerky loversandretro gamers
which man are you?
― erudite beach boys fan (sheesh), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 00:48 (seven years ago) link
Troutdoorsman?????
― pplains, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 01:38 (seven years ago) link
and why do the include a cro bar with the wooden crate. any MANly MAN would have his own cro bar stored right there by the mailbox.
― pplains, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 01:39 (seven years ago) link
the greek playwright mancretes
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 01:48 (seven years ago) link
um mancrates
I think you mean so, crates?
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 02:30 (seven years ago) link
http://www.missioncritical.cc/products/babycarrier?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=newsfeed&utm_campaign=FB-Ad-Competitors
― marcos, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 20:06 (seven years ago) link
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0667/0079/files/weelove_missioncritical_pin_grande.jpg
― marcos, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 20:08 (seven years ago) link
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/13388604_1729394910635184_776451728_n.jpghttps://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/14033468_943003965826271_750509331_n.jpghttps://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/p640x640/14280653_686108154870378_1919596913_n.jpg
― marcos, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link
features jerky pocket, ammo pouch, energy drink holder
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link
― marcos, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 20:19 (seven years ago) link
"For open carry . . of babies!"
― nickn, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link
that doesn't even look like real.. *looks in man carrier jargon file* ... molle webbing
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link
haha i was trying to come up with the word for that, like "god i used to know this for some weird reason"
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link
can't find your everyday carry blogs now that google reader is defunct, gotta search for the words
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link
tbf it's shit like this (http://ilequipment.com/collections/all/products/photo-bag-mkiii) that taught me about that stuff so --- otm
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link
that chihuahua looks so sketched out by this bullshit
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 22:16 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/5yVv9FJ.jpg
this just showed up on my Twitter feed courtesy of @BroScienceGear
― larry appleton, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 14:16 (seven years ago) link
i saw this the other day and couldn't even deal..
DUDEZ JUST FUCK THAT MICROWAVE MAC AND CHEESE U KNOW U WANNA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_UwjU83I3s
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 14:20 (seven years ago) link
I was about to innocuously post that somewhere then noticed the wtf background
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 14:20 (seven years ago) link
sorry that was an xp although mac & cheese is good
Thomas H5 days agofirst ad in a long period in my life that amused me so much I think I'm actually going to buy the stuff. only other ad that has gotten me to buy their product consciously is Old Spice.
― how's life, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 14:46 (seven years ago) link
I have heard tell a couple of the Old Spice products smell fine, and I have to admit their rebranding was less obnoxious than some other brands. I really did think "this smells like old men" and even "this smells like douchebag bros in their 20s" is probably a better smell than old man smell.
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 14:50 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, I used to use the old man Old Spice until a woman told me I smelled like her dead grandfather. I still use that brand but one of the sporty scents, not a Game of Thrones scent.
― how's life, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 14:55 (seven years ago) link
legit don't understand how anyone can use a scented deodorant, they all smell nauseating to me. Unscented Arm & Hammer all the way.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:02 (seven years ago) link
I was intrigued by cologne stuff when I was a kid because, for some reason, my dad ended up with a handful of bottles that came from my great-grandfather's possessions several years after he died. I'm trying to remember what one bottle was, but there were definitely Brut and Hai Karate in there.
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:02 (seven years ago) link
I went through a brief polo sport phase, super popular in my middle school
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:03 (seven years ago) link
oh lol sorry for the man-site link, but:http://www.artofmanliness.com/2012/01/10/6-forgotten-drugstore-colognes-and-aftershaves/
it was english leather I was thinking of!
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link
My starter cologne was this horrible thing from the 60s or 70s that smelled of straight-up lime.
― how's life, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:06 (seven years ago) link
it's kind of an interesting thing that even Target or Walgreens has men's cologne now that's not marketed as aftershave and actually costs $40+
would expensive (well, not drugstore shelf-priced) cologne be more of an effete or upper class things decades ago, or even not really manly?
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:07 (seven years ago) link
Oh it was this:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/76/31/bb/7631bbb731db0fcaab5de4f997167480.jpg
― how's life, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:08 (seven years ago) link
http://pimages.parfumo.de/480/49675_bnrfqo_jade_east_golden_lime_480.jpg
― how's life, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:09 (seven years ago) link
haha i totally wore brut in like 6th grade or something
― marcos, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:17 (seven years ago) link
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, September 27, 2016 11:03 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
me too, i wore this a lot when i was 14
in high school i did ckb it was more sophisticated and cool
― marcos, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:18 (seven years ago) link
Cologne I can remember wearing: CKOne, CK Contradiction, OP Juice, Emporio Armani, Perry Ellis 360. This all petered out before I finished college. Wouldn't mind having a scent on hand, but also don't feel like trying out cologne.
― how's life, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:23 (seven years ago) link
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, September 27, 2016 11:02 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yea i can't stand to wear even scented deodorant let alone a cologne. toms of main unscented for me
― marcos, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:24 (seven years ago) link
have to admit i am partial to patchouli though
― marcos, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:25 (seven years ago) link
lol haven't you admitted that before on ilx?
we smell you there. know it's you, marcos. the patchouli man.
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:31 (seven years ago) link
lol im sure i have
― marcos, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:32 (seven years ago) link
colognes I have worn in middle school: Curve, Cool Water, Adidas Sport
― laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 19:05 (seven years ago) link
i hope that babyfaced hottie-dad in the middle of the carrier triad never gets the dog and the kiddie mixed up while he's multitasking.
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link
i can count on one hand the number of times i have worn cologne. i remember one was burt's bees, lol
i make my own deodorant, get on my level
― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 03:17 (seven years ago) link
I briefly used Brut deodorant in junior high school, before switching to Right Guard. I think I liked the forest green cap on the Brut can more than I liked the smell.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link
Pour one out for Drakkar Noir?
― (rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link
Still use Brut. Costs a dollar and it's one of the few roll-ons in the pretty-man aisle.
― pplains, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 19:58 (seven years ago) link
I can't see Aqua Velva without thinking of Twins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdYE7JG5Wu4
― los blue jeans, Thursday, 29 September 2016 00:16 (seven years ago) link
https://huckberry.com/store/duke-cannon
Attention — Duke Cannon is here to airlift your grooming regimen outta the wasteland of chemical-laden soaps and fancy-pants products. This is no-nonsense stuff designed with unfussy guys in mind — guys that work hard and get dirty but still value putting their best face forward. Duke’s products and designs depart from anything you’ll find in the aisle of a convenience store, instead opting for a military-inspired, military-tested range of hygiene essentials. The refreshing minty blast of the Cold Shower cubes feels like a polar plunge, perfect after a grueling workday. And the textured scrubber found in their tactical soap bundle is tough enough to whisk away the effects of even the dirtiest jobs. Best of all, Duke Cannon is committed to giving back, partnering with organizations like Honor Flight to directly support the brave and bright men and women of the armed forces. Well, don’t just sit there. Hop to it...
― (rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link
dookie cannon morelike.
― how's life, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link
I feel nothing but pity for that poor ad copywriter who was asked to "give us some ultra-masculine copy, straight up he-man, balls-to-the-wall stuff, you know, but genuine. oh, and work in the word 'tactical' if you can. the guys we're targeting love tactical crap".
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link
Chemophobic but none of that fancy pants shit
― (rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link
missed an opportunity for "wetwork" imo
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link
lmao at how un-"unfussy" that sounds
― laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link
these are some v fussy products imo
was wondering what the target demo really is -- not actually e.g. oil rig workers, one suspects. assume they're just using gojo.
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link
outdoor enthusiasts
― The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link
wondering what the target demo really is
I'd say men who are insecure enough about their masculinity to overcompensate.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:40 (seven years ago) link
oh shit
― The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link
BIG ASS BRICK OF SOAPModeled after the rough cut, "brick" style of soap used by GIs, and manufactured in the same plant as the supplier of military soap for over 20 years
TACTICAL SOAP ON A ROPEThis bundle is equipped with a textured scrubber specially-designed for a deep clean and a 550-mil-spec paracord to keep your soap from slipping away
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link
lol tactical
"WE ARE TAKING HEAVY FIRE! I REPEAT. WE - ARE - TAKING - HEAVY - FIRE! CALL IN THE SOAP ON A ROPE!"
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:08 (seven years ago) link
Being a ragtag group of highly experienced whiskey drinkers, we can safely say that Norlan’s built one the best looking, most sophisticated whiskey glasses on the planet. Not only is it eye-catching enough for Indiana Jones to sprint through a Mayan mineshaft for, but it also improves your whiskey’s taste and smell, finally allowing you to experience all those smooth caramelly notes the experts talk about. The team of industrial designers, fluid dynamics experts, and master distillers who built this glass spent a year and a half optimizing it for aeration and aroma. Three dozen prototypes and over $800k on Kickstarter later they finally held a glass that lived up their standards.
It works like this: protrusions in the bottom of the Norlan’s interior make whiskey swirl like a natural wave, giving it more contact with the air, and enriching its flavor. The glass’s shape, meanwhile, focuses the whiskey’s aroma into your nose while diffusing its stinging alcoholic bite away from your face. The end result lets you savor your whiskey’s complexities like a true connoisseur while sipping from a stylish glass sure to be the coolest looking thing on your bar cart. So sit back, relax, and savor. Now might be just the right time to start that whiskey collection you’ve been thinking about.
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:08 (seven years ago) link
^^^ unfussy
weirded out by the scrubber with the soap embedded. great, how am I going to wring out all the grossness?
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link
I feel like whiskey has been ruined
I'm manly as fuck that's why I only wash my ass with soap whose name sounds like a gay pornstar.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link
diffusing its stinging alcoholic bite away from your face -- wimp shit imo
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link
imo just go full Chuck Tingle and shove the bar of soap up your ass
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link
These fools sound like they've never bourbon bobbed for apples before
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 08:53 (seven years ago) link
Growth Oil 1 oz$8.00Along with your daily routine of oil application and brushing, mix in a healthy dosage of our Beard Growth Formula for a longer, fuller beard. Just like plants can't grow without water, our beards get thirsty too. Eliminate the itch, turn dormancy into active growth, and accelerate your journey to ultimate manhood. Achieve a wholesome hedge and show off your rich texture with our all natural fusion of beard magic.
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Friday, 13 January 2017 04:53 (seven years ago) link
symmetry requires a 'marketing of femininity' thread. the only problem would be too effing much material.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 13 January 2017 18:05 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/7SrSDbO.jpg
― pplains, Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link
fun doodles though
― kinder, Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link
I bet the "gross and gory Bible stuff" skips right past donkey cocks and horse semen
― El Tuomasbot (milo z), Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:00 (six years ago) link
How to be like Jesus socially: First, find one prostitute...
― pplains, Sunday, 14 May 2017 00:52 (six years ago) link
At least one, si non, ça ne conte pas.
― Quis ut Deus (Michael White), Sunday, 14 May 2017 01:27 (six years ago) link
Ni même compter
― Quis ut Deus (Michael White), Sunday, 14 May 2017 01:32 (six years ago) link
Not half a day back and already he's stinkin' up the joint with classy French bon mots.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 14 May 2017 03:17 (six years ago) link
michael! my god how are you man!
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 14 May 2017 08:02 (six years ago) link
Well, sir. How are you?
― Quis ut Deus (Michael White), Sunday, 14 May 2017 18:08 (six years ago) link
i am totalement épuisé but super happy to see you here :)
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 14 May 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link
http://www.adagio.com/gifts/manly_series.html
A collection of three teas that were formulated with guys in mind. Sugar Daddy is bursting with the energy of life-affirming ginseng green tea. Man Cave has the earthy whiff of leather and beer nuts. Lounge Chair Lapsang is a cup filled with the aroma of Dad's favorite pipe or a contraband stogy. The dad or man in your life is sure to savor all three.
― sexualing healing (crüt), Thursday, 1 June 2017 05:40 (six years ago) link
I've started to see Mancan wine in stores now.
https://www.mancanwine.com/
WHAT’S WITH THE NAME: MANCAN?BY GRAHAM:MANCAN WAS THE NAME THAT POPPED INTO MY HEAD THE NIGHT AT THE BAR WHEN I WISHED THAT THERE WAS AN OPTION TO ORDER A WINE-IN-A-CAN.I HAD BEEN WORKING ON A CONSTRUCTION SITE ALL DAY AND WAS COVERED IN DRYWALL DUST AND MET UP WITH A BUDDY AT A BAR. HE ORDERED A TALLBOY AND I WAS CRAVING WINE BUT DIDN’T WANT TO DEAL WITH ASKING FOR A LIST OR A BOTTLE THAT HAD BEEN SITTING BEHIND THE BAR HALF OPENED FOR A WEEK AND GONE BAD. I ALSO WANTED SOMETHING CASUAL THAT DIDN’T BREAK THE BANK AND DIDN’T WANT TO DEAL WITH STEMWARE.THE NAME IS MEANT TO BE TONGUE-IN-CHEEK – WITH A HINT OF IRONY. MANCAN ISN’T MEANT TO BE A POLITICAL STATEMENT – IT’S JUST HANDCRAFTED DELICIOUS WINE-IN-A-CAN. I THINK THAT MEN WILL LOVE THE EXPERIENCE OF DRINKING OUR WINE RIGHT OUT OF THE CAN, BUT ALSO THAT WOMEN WILL TRY IT AND LOVE IT TOO. THE ONLY THING WE’RE ANTI- IS THE TERRIBLE EXPERIENCE OF ORDERING AND DRINKING WINE IN LOTS OF BARS AND VENUES. OUR INTENTION IS NOT TO REPLACE THE RITUAL OF BOTTLED WINE AT A FAMILY GATHERING OR AT A WHITE-CLOTHED RESTAURANT…WE JUST WANT A MORE FUN ALTERNATIVE WHEN AT A CONCERT, TAILGATING, GRILLING, HANGING POOLSIDE, OR ON A PICNIC.I ALSO THINK MANCAN IS CATCHY, SHORT, EASY TO REMEMBER, AND HAS A CERTAIN RING TO IT.
MANCAN WAS THE NAME THAT POPPED INTO MY HEAD THE NIGHT AT THE BAR WHEN I WISHED THAT THERE WAS AN OPTION TO ORDER A WINE-IN-A-CAN.
I HAD BEEN WORKING ON A CONSTRUCTION SITE ALL DAY AND WAS COVERED IN DRYWALL DUST AND MET UP WITH A BUDDY AT A BAR. HE ORDERED A TALLBOY AND I WAS CRAVING WINE BUT DIDN’T WANT TO DEAL WITH ASKING FOR A LIST OR A BOTTLE THAT HAD BEEN SITTING BEHIND THE BAR HALF OPENED FOR A WEEK AND GONE BAD. I ALSO WANTED SOMETHING CASUAL THAT DIDN’T BREAK THE BANK AND DIDN’T WANT TO DEAL WITH STEMWARE.
THE NAME IS MEANT TO BE TONGUE-IN-CHEEK – WITH A HINT OF IRONY. MANCAN ISN’T MEANT TO BE A POLITICAL STATEMENT – IT’S JUST HANDCRAFTED DELICIOUS WINE-IN-A-CAN. I THINK THAT MEN WILL LOVE THE EXPERIENCE OF DRINKING OUR WINE RIGHT OUT OF THE CAN, BUT ALSO THAT WOMEN WILL TRY IT AND LOVE IT TOO. THE ONLY THING WE’RE ANTI- IS THE TERRIBLE EXPERIENCE OF ORDERING AND DRINKING WINE IN LOTS OF BARS AND VENUES. OUR INTENTION IS NOT TO REPLACE THE RITUAL OF BOTTLED WINE AT A FAMILY GATHERING OR AT A WHITE-CLOTHED RESTAURANT…WE JUST WANT A MORE FUN ALTERNATIVE WHEN AT A CONCERT, TAILGATING, GRILLING, HANGING POOLSIDE, OR ON A PICNIC.
I ALSO THINK MANCAN IS CATCHY, SHORT, EASY TO REMEMBER, AND HAS A CERTAIN RING TO IT.
― nickn, Thursday, 1 June 2017 05:53 (six years ago) link
new sweat, sweat that can mask your sweat, or sweat that you can drink to help you sweat, less or more, whichever is more healthy in the moment. or just keep sweating. sweat is sweet in your mouth and you will beg for more. sweat is coming out of your underarms and your forehead is slick with new sweat, sweat that could appear at any moment on your body. we bottle up your sweat and others pay money to make it available. new sweat, sweat, it's sweat everywhere, it can't be washed off
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 05:54 (six years ago) link
that's my pitch for sweat
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 05:55 (six years ago) link
Wine in a can has been done before.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 1 June 2017 06:02 (six years ago) link
THE ONLY THING WE’RE ANTI- IS THE TERRIBLE EXPERIENCE OF ORDERING AND DRINKING WINE IN LOTS OF BARS AND VENUES.
― nomar, Thursday, 1 June 2017 06:08 (six years ago) link
xpIt's the butch name that's its selling point, I presume.
― nickn, Thursday, 1 June 2017 06:23 (six years ago) link
OR AT A WHITE-CLOTHED RESTAURANT
And I'm assuming they meant "white tableclothed restaurant" here.
― nickn, Thursday, 1 June 2017 06:26 (six years ago) link
I DIDN'T WANT MY BUDDY TO THINK I WAS ONE OF THEM NANCY BOYS WHO CAN'T KNOCK BACK A SIXER
― El Tuomasbot (milo z), Thursday, 1 June 2017 06:27 (six years ago) link
I always end up bleeding profusely when I crush the empty wine glass against my head.
― nickn, Thursday, 1 June 2017 06:30 (six years ago) link
did ddb write that press release
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 1 June 2017 13:32 (six years ago) link
Actual lols @ werk ^^
― Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Thursday, 1 June 2017 13:46 (six years ago) link
RIP big man
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:49 (six years ago) link
Have we covered Duke Cannon soap yet?
https://dukecannon.com/
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link
uhh ok I'd seen ads before but not this beer soap
what in the heck
― mh, Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link
they definitely are up on their masculinity branding, though, all of the military-esque references and the picture of a guy holding an axe are very on brand
― mh, Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:58 (six years ago) link
I have the naval supremacy one. It is almost too big to be practical.
Even funnier is Duluth Trading sells a tactical soap on a rope bag designed specifically to hold your Duke Cannon brick. Imho this stuff is 100% tailored for moms and wives
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link
lol what the fuck
― mh, Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link
If I want to walk around all day smelling like Old Milwaukee I'll just become my grandfather.
― El Tuomasbot (milo z), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link
does old milwaukee smell like new milkwaukee
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link
new milwaukee smells like old milwaukee, so yes.
― pplains, Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link
what IS the best cover of "I'm My Own Grandpa"?
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link
The Michael Cooney one!
http://www.michaelcooney.com/
― Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8Uv9FIVVLIA/maxresdefault.jpg
― Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link
being in MN the duluth trading company is such a nightmare, they have billboards all the fuck over the place talking about butt cracks and nuts and sweat
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link
I drive past a billboard on the way to work every day that says:
Your Wife is Hot
Maybe it's time to call us to come service your air conditioner
― mh, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 19:45 (six years ago) link
there is a car repair place down the street from me who have that one spelled out in their letter board out front
― how's life, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link
shit, that must be industry standard, that same line has been in use for like 10 years down here.
― nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 22:45 (six years ago) link
https://medium.com/@remakingmanhood/why-do-we-murder-the-beautiful-friendships-of-boys-3ad722942755
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 22:29 (six years ago) link
wow.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link
PISS IN THE FROG'S MOUTH LIKE A MEN!! pic.twitter.com/FbwPkKDOUf— Sammy (@SamChaplin) September 4, 2017
― Karl Malone, Monday, 4 September 2017 23:29 (six years ago) link
omg
― crüt, Monday, 4 September 2017 23:42 (six years ago) link
that's toxic reinforcement, sheesh
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, 4 September 2017 23:44 (six years ago) link
Wow. The actual site is no better.
https://www.babys-steps.com/collections/potties/products/cute-ergonomic-baby-boy-urinal
I assumed maybe someone had just typo'd men instead of man in the ad. But no. It's a thing.
The spinning epiglotis waterwheel must surely just fling piss back at you if you're urinating with any force? And I have it on good authority that little bots can urinate with force.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 07:46 (six years ago) link
If you're a true baby men you don't care if the piss flies back on you. You just accept it, just like you accept pooping all over mommy
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link
Toxic masculinity is fucking WILD pic.twitter.com/gkRGpMEbsz— crowcialist 🏔 (@McKChuck) January 3, 2018
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:49 (six years ago) link
is the "Not for Clowns" logo a direct attack on ICP?
― pplains, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:16 (six years ago) link
"Like they would use soap anyway..." Fair enough, but still.
wayzata, long known as the fucking *hardest* twin cities suburb
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:23 (six years ago) link
the hatchet would indicate as much, which is amusing since Juggalos have a better rep now than ever before
― Simon H., Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:25 (six years ago) link
I walk past a basket of this stuff every morning. From the name, I had an idea of where they were coming from, but didn't realize they were throwing ICP and Appletinis into the same... basket.
― pplains, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:05 (six years ago) link
i have dr bronner's bar soap, what kind of marketing is that
― Men's Scarehouse - "You're gonna like the way you're shook." (m bison), Thursday, 4 January 2018 00:51 (six years ago) link
ahaha what a rush it must be, bein' a guy pic.twitter.com/eG4NjCdojD— Fire Marshal Meaghan (@meaghan_garvey) January 9, 2018
― na (NA), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:21 (six years ago) link
Christ
― kinder, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link
ha
that's hilarious
wld definitely sniff
― infinity (∞), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/810zyxKhyuL._SX355_.jpg
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link
i'll measure timei'll measure height
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:44 (six years ago) link
haha, i thought the same thing!did you hear the rock band version or string version in your head?
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:49 (six years ago) link
mansize? Do men have substantially bigger noses? What could they possible need a larger tissue. . .oh.
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:51 (six years ago) link
\m/
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 22:02 (six years ago) link
judging by this advert, women are also permitted to use mansize tissue to do ladylike things, or if they "have a man size cold"
https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2009/08/kleenex-1024x682.jpg
― soref, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 22:17 (six years ago) link
Kleenex was trying to square the circle there
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 22:19 (six years ago) link
that ad is from 1964 but imo it's striking how similar it is to a lot of the 21st century ads on this thread, in that it's kind of ironic and aware that "tissues for MEN" is a self-evidently ridiculous concept, but still pushing this marketing of masculinity idea
― soref, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 22:24 (six years ago) link
the new target redesign in my area includes a spacious department store-like special area for men's products (and a corresponding area for women's products/makeup that looks more like ulta/sephora/department store)
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 22:25 (six years ago) link
and what would you like for Christmas?a train and a boat and a gun please mummy
― kinder, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 23:28 (six years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/eG4NjCdojD
This shit is hilarious - but it doesn’t strike me as any more or less absurd than gear that’s marketed on the ultra-feminine end of the spectrum. (The navy sea tactical soap from upthread, on the other hand, that’s some crazy toxic shit.) I imagine stuff like this is just companies finally cottonong on to the fact they can do gender-specific marketing & charge a premium price to men the same way they’ve been doing to women for years.
― bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 11 January 2018 16:37 (six years ago) link
the thing that annoys me the most about "masculine" bath products is that all the men's shampoos are combination shampoo/conditioners. I'd be willing to give all the REAL MAN STUFF MADE WITH WOOD CHIPS AND CAFFEINE nonsense a pass if I could just wash and condition my hair separately.
― (the blues version in his Broadway show) (crüt), Thursday, 11 January 2018 16:47 (six years ago) link
this is the cologne my dad uses because he's a man:
https://i.imgur.com/3WYtsXe.jpg
someone needs to tell the brut graphic design team to spruce it up with more manly objects, maybe add some guns and a dead animal or something
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 January 2018 16:48 (six years ago) link
the best:
http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server5300/zwwtm3/products/564/images/474/yhst-16274294850213_2220_1587229__54697.1344354235.305.455.jpg?c=2
― bread bags of courage (brownie), Thursday, 11 January 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link
I think the first deodorant I bought as an early teen was Brut branded. They're truly the classic supermarket shelf man fragrance, precursor to those extreme branding upstarts like Axe
― mh, Thursday, 11 January 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link
Could be a liqueur, could be an aftershave, only one or two ways to find out! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Thursday, 11 January 2018 16:53 (six years ago) link
pinaud? oh yeah, those are bitters, just dab a drop or two into your drink!
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 January 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link
Karl is this how you were....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLlIKJuM1yQ
― omar little, Thursday, 11 January 2018 16:56 (six years ago) link
― (the blues version in his Broadway show) (crüt), Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:47 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is inefficient and thus unmanly
― na (NA), Thursday, 11 January 2018 16:57 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQILMcXC5a0
― omar little, Thursday, 11 January 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link
Most scented products marketed to men smell totally gross to me. Like somebody poured paint stripper on a pine tree. I've used Degree Shower Scent deodorant for decades, during which time it's vacillated between being marketed as a unisex product and something exclusively for the ladies. I think it's the latter at the moment. All I care about is that it doesn't evoke a gasoline-tainted bag of lawn clippings and charred beef.
― the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 January 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link
I don't really get the idea that shampoo is really any different for women or men
if you want really expensive men's shampoo/conditioner and buy into the idea salon junk is in any way better quality, aveda sells individual ones for men
― mh, Thursday, 11 January 2018 17:00 (six years ago) link
men need shampoo to wash out the sweat/coal dust/engine grease; conditioning in itself is unmanly
― mookieproof, Thursday, 11 January 2018 17:01 (six years ago) link
I'm sure it's been mentioned before in this thread but so much of this stuff reminds me of the ads from Dudley Moore's Crazy People.
http://i.imgur.com/wg2fB5X.png
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Thursday, 11 January 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link
Haha, also that movie has a scene where a non-Dudley Moore person tries to come up with a shampoo ad and says something about adding body, and John Heard's ad exec contemptuously replies, "Shampoos rob your hair of body, everyone knows that." Don't know why that line is so oddly memorable.
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Thursday, 11 January 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link
you'll pry the caffeine out of my face lotion out of my cold dry hands
― mh, Thursday, 11 January 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link
haha, no, it was my dad who used it (still uses it, i think). every christmas my dad would get some from my mom, and he'd say "oh, brut!" and my mom would say "he only uses brut"
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 January 2018 17:07 (six years ago) link
― mookieproof, Thursday, 11 January 2018 17:08 (six years ago) link
Ton Brut stan n'est pas
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 January 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgU9CSpiNVw
― omar little, Thursday, 11 January 2018 17:10 (six years ago) link
there are so many examples of amazing vintage masculine marketing out there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g4bvtkxPo8
Surely if your hair is already full of manly grime and dust you would just leave it as is rather than compromise your machismo with a namby-pamby simulacrum of manliness whipped up in a lab by some Poindexter.
― the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 January 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link
if Our korean war Troops occasionally wanted to be clean, it would be unpatriotic for you to do otherwise
― mookieproof, Thursday, 11 January 2018 17:18 (six years ago) link
I use Brut deodorant. It's like $1 a stick.
― pplains, Thursday, 11 January 2018 17:30 (six years ago) link
Saw this in the basket today:
https://i.imgur.com/lH3jWuh.jpg
Honestly, if you have to use soap to smell like Old Milwaukee, you're not trying hard enough.
― pplains, Thursday, 11 January 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link
xpost agreed about male scented anything as being totally gross. All of it makes my eyes burn and I don't think that should be the intention of, say, deodorant.
― Yerac, Thursday, 11 January 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link
still my favorite out of the manscent commercials genre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEqA84R0lYU
― omar little, Thursday, 11 January 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link
damn, Bronson really poured the Mandom on. Thought for a minute he was going to perform an act of self immolation.
― bread bags of courage (brownie), Thursday, 11 January 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link
what was the one with the ad that was like "if your grandpa hadn't worn it, you wouldn't exist", please imagine your grandparents fucking
― frogbs, Thursday, 11 January 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link
Are you referring to Sexy Grandpa? Great scent. Smelled like war bonds and the Dumont Network.
― the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 January 2018 18:07 (six years ago) link
I decided that masculinity was a scam when I came into the classroom on the first day of year 8 and found two boys discussing the various lynx scents with an air of authority
― ogmor, Thursday, 11 January 2018 19:32 (six years ago) link
Thread delivering again
― bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 12 January 2018 02:38 (six years ago) link
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2013/03/15/yogurt-005-cd7c076c4ee341bf948caa3d0d740146b1663f73-s800-c85.jpg
― rb (soda), Friday, 12 January 2018 02:47 (six years ago) link
http://www.butterflylondon.com/wp-content/uploads/r-POWERFUL-YOGURT-large57011.jpg
BULLSHIT YOGURT
― Men's Scarehouse - "You're gonna like the way you're shook." (m bison), Friday, 12 January 2018 03:23 (six years ago) link
omg lolyogurt for men
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 12 January 2018 14:34 (six years ago) link
fat free yogurt is so gross
BROGURT
― mime kampf (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 12 January 2018 14:44 (six years ago) link
I saw an Oikos yogurt ad on tv yesterday that was one of these! The website is over half women in stylish fitness gear, but it's got black packaging and the ad featured a football player talking about eating his yogurt.
― mh, Friday, 12 January 2018 14:45 (six years ago) link
All the world loves a loverAll the girls in every landomAnd to know the joy of loving Is to live in the world of Mandom
― mick signals, Friday, 12 January 2018 15:09 (six years ago) link
So the yogurt container has actual abs cut into it. I want to attach pipe cleaners and googly eyes, but that would mean actually buying one.
― rb (soda), Friday, 12 January 2018 15:13 (six years ago) link
do it
for the content
― gbx, Saturday, 13 January 2018 03:00 (six years ago) link
https://mancavecrafteats.com/
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 19 January 2018 18:07 (six years ago) link
It was only a few seconds but I still spent way too long wondering what a 'craf teat' was.
― the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Friday, 19 January 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link
'Man cave' is basically my least favorite neologism of the 21st Century.
― the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Friday, 19 January 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link
http://www.countryliving.com/gardening/garden-ideas/a35458/how-to-make-your-own-she-shed/
― godzillas in the mist (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 19 January 2018 18:21 (six years ago) link
he shed she shed by the seashore
― Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Friday, 19 January 2018 18:24 (six years ago) link
She shed you don't undershtand what I shed
― how's life, Friday, 19 January 2018 18:46 (six years ago) link
WE ARE A COALITION OF CREATIVE MINDED, RENEGADE FOOD GEEKS. OUR DRIVE TO CREATE AND DESIRE TO DISRUPT ARE THE CORE OF MAN CAVE. WE ARE INDEPENDENT, WE ARE DAVID. OUR GOLIATH BEING THE MACRO MEAT INDUSTRY. WITH RENEGADE ABANDON WE CHARGE FORWARD TO DELIVER MICRO BATCH GOODNESS. WE ARE HERE TO SLAY THE GIANT.
― rb (soda), Friday, 19 January 2018 18:52 (six years ago) link
OUR DRIVE TO CREATE AND DESIRE TO DISRUPT ARE THE CORE OF MAN CAVEWE ARE INDEPENDENT, WE ARE DAVID. OUR GOLIATH BEING THE MACRO MEAT INDUSTRY. WITH RENEGADE ABANDON WE CHARGE FORWARD TO DELIVER MICRO BATCH GOODNESS. WE ARE HERE TO SLAY THE GIANT
― rb (soda), Friday, 19 January 2018 18:53 (six years ago) link
OUR DRIVE TO CREATE AND DESIRE TO DISRUPT ARE THE CORE OF MAN CAVEHow do I parse? Shit broetry. Our drive to create, and our desire to disrupt, are the core of the man cave. The core of the cave. The cave’s core is creative. And destructive. Creativity on the one hand and the desire to disrupt are on the other. Not disruption, but the desire to disrupt. Men want to make stuff, and think about disruptive stuff and that is deep in their holes.
― rb (soda), Friday, 19 January 2018 19:24 (six years ago) link
People are getting so good at confidently and casually spewing utter bullshit.
― the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Friday, 19 January 2018 19:25 (six years ago) link
Men are!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 19 January 2018 19:26 (six years ago) link
WE ARE INDEPENDENT, WE ARE DAVID. OUR GOLIATH BEING THE MACRO MEAT INDUSTRY. WITH RENEGADE ABANDON WE CHARGE FORWARD TO DELIVER MICRO BATCH GOODNESS. WE ARE HERE TO SLAY THE GIANT. I LIKE KILLING PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS SO MUCH FUN IT IS MORE FUN THAN KILLING WILD GAME IN THE FORREST BECAUSE MAN IS THE MOST DANGEROUE ANAMAL OF ALL TO KILL SOMETHING GIVES ME THE MOST THRILLING EXPERENCE IT IS EVEN BETTER THAN GETTING YOUR ROCKS OFF WITH A GIRL THE BEST PART OF IT IS THAE WHEN I DIE I WILL BE REBORN IN PARADICE AND ALL THEI HAVE KILLED WILL BECOME MY SLAVES I WILL NOT GIVE YOU MY NAME BECAUSE YOU WILL TRY TO SLOI DOWN OR ATOP MY COLLECTIOG OF SLAVES FOR MY AFTERLIFE. EBEORIETEMETHHPITI
― soref, Friday, 19 January 2018 19:53 (six years ago) link
https://www.instagram.com/p/BeI2HiCjlIn/?hl=en&taken-by=versace_tamagotchi
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Friday, 19 January 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link
hey so on this Facebook music listening group i asked something about the name 4 Men With Beards and someone replied that the name is a joke, that the records are "for men with beards." good lord at not only me missing the joke but also that terrible name.
― omar little, Friday, 19 January 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link
didn't know where else to post it so etc etc
― omar little, Friday, 19 January 2018 20:21 (six years ago) link
LIVE OUT LOUDPUNCH YOUR DREAMFUCK YOGURTDRINK MANDOMCARESS YOUR MEATSMAKE THE WORLD YOUR MAN CAVE
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 January 2018 20:21 (six years ago) link
xp that's a good x-post to "Things you were shockingly old when you learned"
also: god damn it, I just got it
― mh, Friday, 19 January 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link
ugh i hate seeing "4 men with beards" in huge letters when i look at a recordit has always irritated me because 1) it lacks imagination and 2) thanks (no thanks) for the image of 4 men with beards on my shirley collins reissue, you self-involved jerks
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 19 January 2018 20:23 (six years ago) link
i remember how crestfallen i was to open Scott 4 and see that logo on the center label.
― omar little, Friday, 19 January 2018 20:24 (six years ago) link
That is making me reassess "4 Non Blondes."
― godzillas in the mist (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 19 January 2018 20:26 (six years ago) link
always curious about those vinyl reissue labels. seems like you can just get license to print the 2 most famous Iggy Pop albums rip those CDs and send them to UPR.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 19 January 2018 20:30 (six years ago) link
I always heard 4 Men With Beards had ties to the Italian mobalso I think they are notorious for ripping CD masters to vinylbut some of their stuff is nicethey are like the sketchy parking lot version of Light in the Attic
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 January 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link
i think i only have one (two?) of their records but i feel aggravated when i see the logo
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 19 January 2018 20:45 (six years ago) link
Cory "Sludge" Cove, one of the hosts of our local sports talk station's (KFAN) Power Trip Morning Show is a HUGE 311 fan like he travel to see them at Red Rocks and stuff and says without a doubt they are the best band ever, way better than the Beatles or anyone, he got in an argument with one of the Boomer hosts about 311 vs. the Beatles, it's almost weird
but he also famously only eats chicken strips
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 January 2018 20:47 (six years ago) link
read that post three times and it should be depressing but I'm giggling
― mh, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:33 (six years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVcjBumXUAEmff3.jpg:small
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 21:03 (six years ago) link
Bet he wears a vest though.
― pplains, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 21:11 (six years ago) link
I think I prefer the German version
http://car-use-blog.eu/lat/wp-content/plugins/special-recent-posts/cache/srpthumb-p7660-450x249-no.jpg
― soref, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 21:13 (six years ago) link
real men can't drive?
― "oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 21:22 (six years ago) link
we die like real men: cursing our pea brained masculine stupidity as our chest cavity fills with the blood from our ruptured aorta.
― omar little, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link
isn't the german version meant to be an ironical commentary on the shittiness of the car?
of course the american version has to distort it into something 100% earnest and over the top macho
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 21:33 (six years ago) link
^^ gets it
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/JC4yAv1.jpg
― mick signals, Sunday, 25 February 2018 19:33 (six years ago) link
I can make my own thank you very much
― bald butte (∞), Monday, 26 February 2018 03:42 (six years ago) link
I have to put this somewhere and although it's not exactly right for the thread I don't know where else to put it.
http://i66.tinypic.com/300r9f5.jpg
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 30 March 2018 14:41 (five years ago) link
https://btbgrooming.co.uk/
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 30 March 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link
after showering, apply this gel to your BALLS
New GOLD BOND® Ultimate Men’s Essentials Body Powder Spray with Nightfall scent absorbs odor and wetness with no mess. It keeps a man’s skin cool and refreshed. All with a scent that’s fresh and distinctly masculine. Just push the button and aim it wherever you want to be irresistible. Uses Directions Ingredients WarningsGOLD BOND® Ultimate Men’s Essentials Body Powder Spray with Nightfall scent provides all over odor and wetness control plus the refreshing scent of a body deodorant spray. And it’s great to use before work or physical activity, right after showering to stay cool, or before heading out for the night.Product Highlights: Absorbing for moisture and odor control Cooling sensation Energizing and seductive Nightfall scent
Uses Directions Ingredients Warnings
GOLD BOND® Ultimate Men’s Essentials Body Powder Spray with Nightfall scent provides all over odor and wetness control plus the refreshing scent of a body deodorant spray. And it’s great to use before work or physical activity, right after showering to stay cool, or before heading out for the night.
Product Highlights:
Absorbing for moisture and odor control Cooling sensation Energizing and seductive Nightfall scent
energizing and seductive
― mh, Friday, 30 March 2018 14:46 (five years ago) link
note that Shaq is in the commercial for this product
you had me at 'provides all over odor and wetness'
― kinder, Friday, 30 March 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link
dermatologically testes
― mookieproof, Friday, 30 March 2018 16:13 (five years ago) link
dry balls
― ciderpress, Friday, 30 March 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link
― F# A# (∞), Friday, 30 March 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link
lol amazing use of capitalization
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 30 March 2018 19:49 (five years ago) link
That's the best part.
BALLS
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 30 March 2018 20:03 (five years ago) link
after Excelsioring, apply this zing to your LOLZ
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 March 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link
― map, Friday, 30 March 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link
xp kudos
― sleeve, Friday, 30 March 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link
*frowns*
https://68.media.tumblr.com/41efed5d93df4f945abaa0763158f4f4/tumblr_p751r8F3oE1w6v1v3o1_1280.jpg
― Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link
Reminds of a subreddit called 'badwomensanatomy'. Edifying stuff.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link
I've seen that several times and it never stops making me lol
― mh, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link
Reminds me of the time i tried to shave with a women’s razor
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 22:41 (five years ago) link
What alloy do they use in women's razors again? Femininium? Ovularium? I used those damn things once and totally got passed over for a promotion the next day.
― Across the You Never Her (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 23:49 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I shaved by balls with one once and I swear they got smaller!
― nickn, Thursday, 19 April 2018 00:28 (five years ago) link
Bespoke Post — themed boxes for guys who give a damn
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--npqP5ran--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/ro7enqnwt0mmudxr2heh.png
― omar little, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link
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― omar little, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 14:08 (five years ago) link
tbf those are some manly fuckin' measuring spoons
― Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 14:10 (five years ago) link
Headphones the color of the chair father drank himself to death in, an ax to destroy the yard tree.
― omar little, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 14:17 (five years ago) link
what is that little loop thing between the shaving brush and the headphones
― marcos, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link
Keyring? Artisanal IUD?
― NO REGERTS (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 14:29 (five years ago) link
I don’t know. I’m also wondering what the hand axe is for
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 14:30 (five years ago) link
I guess it’s for shaving, because I sure as hell wouldn’t use the little non-wooden, non-leather razor down there in the left corner
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link
I've actually owned a lovely hatchet for most of my life, but it is basically useless. Small pieces of wood are best cut with a bypass lopper (or just bent with hands); larger ones with a handsaw; largest ones need a powered reciprocating saw or chainsaw. There is no size of stick for which a hatchet is the right tool.
― NO REGERTS (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 14:34 (five years ago) link
Artisanal IUD?
lol!
― marcos, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 14:34 (five years ago) link
Isn't the little loop a money clip? Not to say dudes don't bake, but those measuring spoons seem out of place. Unless for drugs or something.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link
is it me or is that aesthetic already feeling outdated? this thread is eight years old and that HAND HEWN AXE, BRASS RAZOR thing feels stale
― na (NA), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link
it does kind of feel dated but it is still everywhere
― marcos, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 14:36 (five years ago) link
it was probably almost a decade ago when my friends had to run to the hardware store for something related to a backyard grilling part we were having and one bought a hatchet to be funny. we were making fun of that aesthetic then, and somehow it's still rolling?
there is, I swear to god, a store locally that has all this man stuff for sale, and they have a guy who artisanly restores old axes with a grinder and sharpener
― mh, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:01 (five years ago) link
so what you're saying is that making fun of this aesthetic is outdated and stale
― na (NA), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:19 (five years ago) link
that, too
― mh, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link
we might be stuck with it, it's like all my peers who locked their tastes in back in 1999 and everything that was cool then will forever be cool
there are people who are locked into being rustic axe man. gonna be buying new and refurbished rustic axes until they die
― mh, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link
they should be sharpening their old rustic axes, ideally with an axe stone while standing in the woods with no shirt
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link
everything i learned about masculinity i learned from God of War on PS4, during the last week
https://i.imgur.com/KlMaKRK.jpg
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
It's like the 1890s has taken a permanent spot at the nostalgia table for manly shaving goods and hatchets, just like the 1950s won't let go of theme diners.
― pplains, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link
gonna be buying new and refurbished rustic axes until they dieLOL
long time ago i made this wall hanging thing with an ax and my roommate at the time thought i was nuts. i guess i sort of was. i painted the handle bright red.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link
http://cdn.hellosubscription.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/march-2016-bespoke-post-selections-coupon-98820.png
― omar little, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link
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― omar little, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link
Puffin got it. Wtf.
https://i.imgur.com/tzC96C0.jpg
― pplains, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link
hmm, that's one use for it, i guess. i was thinking it could be used to improve the presentation of manly pubes - squeeze up a lock of pubes apart from the others, as if to say "there is an abundance of pubes, here is but a sample"
but could be used for keys as well
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 16:07 (five years ago) link
Like, these types of sets are only ever bought to give as gifts right? I can't imagine an adult buying it for themselves.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link
OK, let me turn my wtf away from the keyring for a moment and focus it on Karl Malone.
― pplains, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link
hey man i'm just brainstorming
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link
pubestorming, more like.
― pplains, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link
pube management is an emerging market, and when it finally through to the mainstream there will probably be cured wood hair ties, along with hand-vacs with fine leather grips to help clean it all up
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link
I thought pube management had peaked as a masculinity market, but no... the nice trimmer I bought for my face now has a body hair version you can buy
imo nose hair trimmer technology is due for a boost
― mh, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link
The new OneBlade Face + Body comes with a click-on skin guard. Perfect for sensitive areas that need extra protection, like underarms and yeah, down there too.
accompanied by the requisite picture of a shirtless man peering down the front of his boxer shorts
― mh, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 18:11 (five years ago) link
I think I have literally never pulled back the waistband of my boxers and peered down my junk the way it is done in those stock photos
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link
"down there" is among the prissiest things sayable btw
― let's not talk about the gincident (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link
there's probably a marketing angle that doesn't get technical or too prissy
"Safely trim your junk with our trimmer."
maybe they could promise never to show you stock photos of men peering down shorts and a guarantee they'll never have an ad showing kiwi fruit
― mh, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link
pubescaping is the hardest of labours that i perform but one that is so necessary every week that i anticipated a solution to it with bated breath
― F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link
anticipate*
i like that keychain tbh
― gbx, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link
wouldnt a real man, like, learn how to work metal and make this themselves?
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link
Keychain seems like it could be a little pokey.
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link
the duluth trading company breaks my spirit
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 21:54 (five years ago) link
file this under my favorite thing I've ever seen pic.twitter.com/qlkcr2C1g8— a (@annkatsha) May 9, 2018
― j., Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:19 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/pNGQPjk.jpg
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Saturday, 12 May 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link
An intereeting thing i noticed in Japan is how while yes, there wre beauty products marketed to men, its not as easy to distinguish the two as it is hereLike stateside, there's the weird insertion of like fucking bears or tigers or guns or camo pic.twitter.com/LNBOhU6e9I— k 👍Ⓕ wagata (@TeethBeetles) May 28, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 28 May 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link
The label of my Ultra-Moist Baby-Soft Exfoliation Gel (specially formulated for sensitive skin) features a bear wearing camo pointing a gun at a tiger.
― and she could see an earmuff factory (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 28 May 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link
the american version of the same product
https://i.imgur.com/kUCSavO.jpg
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 28 May 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link
ya a lot of japanese men take their beauty routine extremely serious, just like women do
beauty standards in east asia for east asian men in general are basically to look as feminine as possible without actually wearing a dress and having shoulder-length hair (except for the 80s/visual kei), from a western standpoint
look at the models to get a perfect idea
at least in japan, the way they show their masculinity/gender is by speaking a particular way and using specific words
― F# A# (∞), Monday, 28 May 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link
I'll never forget a story my junior high Latin teacher told us about being stationed in Japan in the 1950s - the soldiers all learned Japanese from the women they hung out with, so their pronounciation and vocal mannerisms were seen as hilariously feminine by the local dudes.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 28 May 2018 20:04 (five years ago) link
ExactlyThe same thing happens now when a western guy ends up learning Japanese from his wife/girlfriendFunnily enough, the Japanese books teach is formal Japanese, which is more like how women speakSo all the western men end up sounding feminine, which a lot of women over there think is cute and funnyAnd when you tell western guys that their initial reaction is to panic lol
― F# A# (∞), Monday, 28 May 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link
Someone should hire Sonny Chiba to do a series of Japanese language tapes. Solve this problem at a stroke.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 28 May 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link
beauty standards in east asia for east asian men in general are basically to look as feminine as possible
if everyone's into skin care, then wouldn't it not be feminine but just neutral?
the japanese perspective has to be: in the US, it's weird, women take care of their skin and men look like they're dried out walking dandruff, right?
― (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Monday, 28 May 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link
Men in the US generally do have a walking dandruff vibe going on. It's patriotic to just let yourself go. Or maybe they think ranch dressing moisturizes from the inside.
― Yerac, Monday, 28 May 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link
*drops cup of ranch I'm slurping*
wait it doesn't?!
― (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Monday, 28 May 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link
going to go out on a limb and say that black men are better about it, lest they get mocked for being ashy
― (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Monday, 28 May 2018 21:43 (five years ago) link
XPs Can you give any kind of equivalent examples of the masculine/feminine vocabulary/way of talking? Or is it just like 'dude what up' vs 'oh my god!! how have you beeeen I can't believe it!!!'
nb I don't believe that most people actually fall into these stereotypes
― kinder, Monday, 28 May 2018 21:44 (five years ago) link
xpost, yeah I am mostly talking about white men in the US, mostly outside of the major cities.
― Yerac, Monday, 28 May 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link
Although my brothers are half asian and they are flaky, cargo shorts wearing mofos.
― Yerac, Monday, 28 May 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link
...who put ranch dressing on everything.
― Yerac, Monday, 28 May 2018 21:49 (five years ago) link
my dudes
― (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Monday, 28 May 2018 23:43 (five years ago) link
I just had to google to see if they made a skin product with ranch dressing formula yet. I could only find a youtube "comedy" bit on using it as a moisturizer and teeth whitener.
― Yerac, Monday, 28 May 2018 23:46 (five years ago) link
― kinder, Monday, May 28, 2018 2:44 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hm, of course there is the "what's up" and "dude"
i was specifically referring to phrases that only men say, personal pronouns the speaker uses depending on their gender, and different verb conjugations for male and female speaker -- but there are also "neutral" ways to say things, but that sometimes falls under the "formal" category
― F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 00:53 (five years ago) link
male and female speakers*
― F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 00:54 (five years ago) link
this also reminds me that colombian men don't use the informal you when talking to other men, because if they do, it sounds like they are gay or in some intimate relationship
so they only use the formal you
― F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 00:59 (five years ago) link
“My dad has an infant dick” pic.twitter.com/2fSdK3gFCb— jasen comstock (@JasenComstock) May 30, 2018
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 31 May 2018 01:31 (five years ago) link
The miami beach peninsula
― F# A# (∞), Thursday, 31 May 2018 01:48 (five years ago) link
jesus
― you bet, nancy (map), Thursday, 31 May 2018 01:57 (five years ago) link
“I learned it by watching you, dad!” *shits self explosively*
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 02:16 (five years ago) link
tbf my son did get his voluminous shitting skills from me
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Thursday, 31 May 2018 02:29 (five years ago) link
This is a mess of a thread
― Ross, Thursday, 31 May 2018 03:22 (five years ago) link
As if a "marketing of masculinity" thread could be anything else.
― nickn, Thursday, 31 May 2018 06:59 (five years ago) link
This one amused me. I guess a weightlifting apparel site is low-hanging fruit for this kind of marketing, though.
― beard papa, Friday, 15 June 2018 04:32 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/9DKA9Vt.png
wait a second, should i have been attributing my quotes to myself every time i say them?
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 15 June 2018 05:27 (five years ago) link
- Bob Marley
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 15 June 2018 07:15 (five years ago) link
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/52703af3e4b04f2720625215/577fd16cff7c50451be6db1e/590384b92994caa5907787d9/1516136630692/FullSizeRender.jpg-3.jpeg?format=2500w
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/52703af3e4b04f2720625215/577fd16cff7c50451be6db1e/5aba938d575d1f96b4b174c2/1524078197695/yellow-mug.jpeg?format=2500w
― how's life, Friday, 15 June 2018 10:28 (five years ago) link
TYPE ANGRYRIBHHMJFNKkbBjJNNakanadahajahYhGHHHNLPNCmKMIMH
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 15 June 2018 13:21 (five years ago) link
Oh great, and now my fingertips hurt on top of everything else arrrgfff VfcknZjjzmlhjYzvHZmlJyzZmkKi
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 15 June 2018 13:22 (five years ago) link
http://imgur.com/dfBPvTHl.png
Amazon keeps recommending this to me when I browse e.g. male vitamin supplements and I just might start wearing one around town.
― mick signals, Friday, 15 June 2018 14:33 (five years ago) link
That's kinda cool, actually; you could rub it up against the laptops of people you don't like.
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 15 June 2018 15:07 (five years ago) link
http://imgur.com/iaLN1Qzl.png
― mick signals, Sunday, 24 June 2018 03:40 (five years ago) link
^ wringing a simulacrum of humor from the pretense that everything is exactly as important as everything else. but the set-up and timing are incompetent.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 24 June 2018 04:13 (five years ago) link
different, but the same
https://scontent-atl3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/61623f43c077b8c3d34532ee69976296/5BBD6A50/t51.2885-15/e35/33727805_448740428885221_2895419792775184384_n.jpg
― mookieproof, Monday, 25 June 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link
"for the fascist in you"
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 25 June 2018 15:03 (five years ago) link
makiagesmh
― kinder, Monday, 25 June 2018 15:04 (five years ago) link
Both cynical in the same way that all marketing is but I think the pressures that lead to the latter are infinitely more pronounced and entrenched than the former. Feels wrong to have them in the same conversation
― tsrobodo, Monday, 25 June 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link
Manly Health and Training, With Off-Hand Hints Toward Their Conditions
https://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/mosemed.jpg
― remy bean, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 01:48 (five years ago) link
Sorry if this has been posted upthread but I was only made aware of it thru a targeted Instagram ad:
https://nypost.com/2017/06/03/this-intensive-boot-camp-is-designed-to-revive-a-mans-primal-nature/
Drills included being thrown off a boat into the Pacific Ocean while blindfolded, dunked into a tank of ice water, and visiting a cemetery where the men are told they will die in 20 minutes and must first write goodbye letters to their loved ones.“We teach them how to be a man,” said Warrior Week founder Garrett J. White, a 40-year-old blond with tattooed biceps who looks like a video-game soldier.“Women are leading [both] across the board in business and at home . . . and living more powerfully than men today. And that’s causing complete chaos for men.”
“We teach them how to be a man,” said Warrior Week founder Garrett J. White, a 40-year-old blond with tattooed biceps who looks like a video-game soldier.
“Women are leading [both] across the board in business and at home . . . and living more powerfully than men today. And that’s causing complete chaos for men.”
― omar little, Monday, 30 July 2018 11:48 (five years ago) link
Literally the preceding post
― antisocal (rip van wanko), Monday, 30 July 2018 13:25 (five years ago) link
What kind of pussy writes letters in a cemetery.
― pplains, Monday, 30 July 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link
are they trying to turn them into goths? cuz this is how u get goths
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 30 July 2018 14:08 (five years ago) link
an intensive program for male executives from tech, finance and other high-pressure industries to learn the “hidden science of accessing (nearly) unlimited sex, power and money as a married business man,” according to the program’s website. Rahm shelled out $10,000 for the privilege of being bound, gagged and run ragged for five days and nights in Laguna Beach, Calif., in April.
Basically a boot camp for men who want to become even bigger assholes.
― omar little, Monday, 30 July 2018 14:11 (five years ago) link
I am ok with more Goths.
― Yerac, Monday, 30 July 2018 14:13 (five years ago) link
By the fall of 2007, White’s empire had crumbled amid the mortgage crisis, and he sold off his businesses and home in Utah.
“When you lose your identity as a businessman, you literally lose the power to create. You become weak,” said White. “It becomes awkward to engage with powerful men. So you spend most of your time with women or men who drink all the time.”
White, a consultant at the time, said he was heading toward a second divorce as he relied more on porn and drinking.
“I wanted to connect sexually with my wife, but I operated like a huge p - - - y. I might as well have thrown my balls into the garbage disposal.”
Why stop there?
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, 30 July 2018 14:17 (five years ago) link
so am i, ordinarily, but it's the thought of corporate goths that is worrying me xp
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 30 July 2018 14:18 (five years ago) link
see, if you just never get married to begin with, you can rely on those things as much as you want! maybe he should stick to those instead of heading into marriages that aren't working
― mh, Monday, 30 July 2018 14:36 (five years ago) link
Corporate goths are like yoga yuppies living in some billion dollar real estateThey want the biz cred and street cred
― F# A# (∞), Monday, 30 July 2018 14:40 (five years ago) link
All they're looking for is for something to make them feel like they are young again. Something to make them feel like they are fun again.
― pplains, Monday, 30 July 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link
lol eric otm
― transcendental headache (Ross), Monday, 30 July 2018 16:24 (five years ago) link
Goth2Bosshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL9tm3LHG6Y
― kinder, Monday, 30 July 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link
Luv2gothLuv2realiti
― F# A# (∞), Monday, 30 July 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link
Oh noooo turns out I can’t use my new mesh sponge pic.twitter.com/vYUuJET9Wa— Mara “Get Rid of the Nazis” Wilson (@MaraWilson) August 12, 2018
― mh, Monday, 13 August 2018 01:25 (five years ago) link
^ that puts me in mind of the fact that the button plackets down the front of a man's shirt and a woman's blouse are reversed from one another, for no reason other than to show one is intended to be worn by a man and the other intended for a woman.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 13 August 2018 04:44 (five years ago) link
There is some reason for that though - something about women being dressed by others?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 13 August 2018 05:12 (five years ago) link
As I understand it, back when upper class women were dressed by their chambermaids, their male counterparts in the upper class were also dressed by their valets, but without quite the same amount of fuss and whalebone involved.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 13 August 2018 05:17 (five years ago) link
Hm if thats so then that cant be it.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 13 August 2018 07:26 (five years ago) link
men could dress themselves but women's clothes - at least the ones with buttons on them - were more complicated, so a woman needed someone else to do the buttons. it wasn't just the upper classes, it was everyone because the lower classes would receive hand-me-downs from their masters. there were clothes that didn't have buttons of course but those were for sleeping/ being around the house. i got all this from "a time traveller's guide to restoration britain" - highly recommended!
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 August 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link
Another theory has to do with how a man might need to unbutton his cloak with one hand while drawing his sword with the other. I think that's apocryphal, though.
― leica bridge over troubled cameras (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 August 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link
it's certainly an entertaining image
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 August 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link
Went looking for kid’s bedroom decor inspirations and ended up discovering the three stages of male adolescent sociopathy pic.twitter.com/qO1kLrTif3— Adam Weinstein (@AdamWeinstein) August 13, 2018
― InfoWarriors (Spottie), Monday, 13 August 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link
Whatever the origin of this oddity, it is supremely functionless now and there's no purpose in retaining it.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 13 August 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link
However I totally want a treehouse and rope bridge over my bed. That looks fucking great.
― leica bridge over troubled cameras (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 August 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link
Where are the bookcases?
― pplains, Monday, 13 August 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link
We let Hammer have a little BBQ grill in his room once, and man, the insurance guy almost didn't believe me when I filed the claim a week later.
― pplains, Monday, 13 August 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link
jungle room is kinda cool, has "The birds don't sing, they screech in pain" stenciled on a wall unseen from that angle.
― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 13 August 2018 18:02 (five years ago) link
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/de/f8/a4/def8a48db13bf98704a0e293dd421bd0.png
― omar little, Monday, 13 August 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link
Noice!
related: Yesterday a 15-ish-looking kid approached me as I was walking toward 7-11. He said, "can I ask you a favor?" I said, "possibly." He said, "can you buy me a gameleaf?" I said, "I'm sorry, I don't understand." He said, "Game leaf. Wild berry. Cigars. I'll give you money."
Now, I was once a young person. Never much of a tobacco smoker, but I loved booze and weed, and definitely went to great lengths to get them. So I guess I empathized, but at that moment, I just didn't feel like dealing with it, so I said "sorry, man, can't help you."
Is it weird that if it had been a 20-year-old, I'd probably have taken pity and bought him beer? But tobacco for a 15-year-old just seems... nope.
And come the fuck ON. Wild berry flavored? How about some fuckin CAMELS, boy? Fuckin MARLBORO. Shit, even BLUNTS would be acceptable.
― leica bridge over troubled cameras (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 August 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link
it would've been for a blunt surely
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 13 August 2018 21:09 (five years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dn8_Ui9UUAAz45d.jpg
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link
I like beans but in small quantitiesPork i loveI can pork all day
― F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link
blechh
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:22 (five years ago) link
can you just.. not?
U luv it
― F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link
http://www.funnysigns.net/files/pork-love.jpg
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:42 (five years ago) link
fire!
― kinder, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:49 (five years ago) link
received a facebook ad for this
sorry lads, probably not gonna happenhttps://flashpack.com/insights/2017/03/10/men-should-travel-solo-on-a-small-group-holiday/
― mh, Monday, 12 November 2018 02:29 (five years ago) link
ah, missed the most important bit
Though there was one element which I wasn’t expecting in that I didn’t realise just how much more popular Flash Pack trips would be with women!
a trip with a group of people that's not all men doing "adventuring" might be more appealing to people, sure
― mh, Monday, 12 November 2018 02:31 (five years ago) link
Something similar was posted a while ago, but this takes it to its logical level. I saw these in a 99 Cent Store, so maybe they've already been rejected by the marketplace.
http://www.sterlingglobalproducts.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/bobs_header1.jpg
― nickn, Monday, 12 November 2018 03:13 (five years ago) link
Not exactly the right thread I guess, but this is now being advertised to me, why
http://imgur.com/UBKkz9Xl.png
― mick signals, Monday, 3 December 2018 16:26 (five years ago) link
haha i just saw that one too
― circa1916, Monday, 3 December 2018 16:27 (five years ago) link
haha thats kinda dope tho
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Monday, 3 December 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link
I think it would actually look alright if it was just sort of vaguely "knight inspired" and didn't have an actual helmet built in
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 3 December 2018 16:40 (five years ago) link
no way, then the knight hoodie illusion is incomplete
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Monday, 3 December 2018 16:50 (five years ago) link
Kinda want that for walking the dog in winter tbh.
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 3 December 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link
i'd wear it? imagine peeping into the helmet and surprise. it me.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 3 December 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link
“Surprise. It me.”—Joan of Arc
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 3 December 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZRzJJcq6Rs
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 9 December 2018 11:03 (five years ago) link
I. Can't. Even. pic.twitter.com/mGFkEbIqRt— Gerry Conway (@gerryconway) December 21, 2018
― mh, Saturday, 22 December 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link
PISTOL SANDALS HELL YEAH
tier two operators: there's absolutely no such thing as a tactical sandalme (smugly): pic.twitter.com/xkAtp8Kfhw— Max Read (@max_read) January 6, 2019
― an erotic picnic with Ming (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 14:29 (five years ago) link
(thx 2 max 4 new screenname)
― tacticool spank bank material (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 14:30 (five years ago) link
premium operating envelope
― jmm, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 14:33 (five years ago) link
just discovered 'tactical baby gear', which is exactly like a regular diaper bag, except eight times the price and marketed to men who think that having children with your wife makes you gay pic.twitter.com/BMXjn61asb— Paulie Doyle (@BigPaulieDoyle) March 23, 2019
― Simon H., Sunday, 24 March 2019 13:36 (five years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D505N3zV4AAQDxf.jpg:small
― mookieproof, Sunday, 5 May 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link
It's already a product for beards, but I guess that wasn't butch enough.
― nickn, Sunday, 5 May 2019 21:39 (four years ago) link
Yes I'm going there.https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1b/Lumberjack_Song.jpg/300px-Lumberjack_Song.jpgmontypythonlumberjacksong.jpg
― just another country (snoball), Sunday, 5 May 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link
only pansies want _soft_ beards, true men have beards with the texture of steel wool
― Burt Bacharach's Bees (rushomancy), Sunday, 5 May 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link
I use a 2x4 to soften my beard.
― pplains, Sunday, 5 May 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link
i use my copy of "the return of the durutti column" to soften my beard
― Burt Bacharach's Bees (rushomancy), Sunday, 5 May 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link
I use my beard to soften pieces of 2x4.
― just another country (snoball), Monday, 6 May 2019 09:46 (four years ago) link
https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.27343978.9032/ra,unisex_tshirt,x2200,fafafa:ca443f4786,front-c,392,146,750,1000-bg,f8f8f8.jpg
Hmmm…
― pomenitul, Monday, 6 May 2019 09:49 (four years ago) link
lmaopoor self-cucked redbubble dude
― Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 May 2019 09:50 (four years ago) link
feel like we're now into the 'be a feminist you fucking pussy' era of masculinity marketing.
― FernandoHierro, Monday, 6 May 2019 10:16 (four years ago) link
and other realms indeed
― deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Monday, 6 May 2019 10:23 (four years ago) link
All of the marketing for beard products grosses me out and I don’t buy any of them. Beyond even a feminist level it’s just unappealing. How about something that says “your beard will be clean and pleasant” instead of “you will smell like a steelworker”
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 6 May 2019 11:32 (four years ago) link
Besides, Dr Bronners works fine.
Not judging, but kind of an ugly woman up there in pomenitul's pic.
― pplains, Monday, 6 May 2019 12:29 (four years ago) link
i don't think she's necessarily ugly - she's just made some questionable style choices. like, she's put a lot of work into what is a fairly ludicrous hairstyle, but hasn't done anything at all about her skin. it's almost as if she's trying to blend as male, but if she is the total lack of a beard is a dead giveaway.
― Burt Bacharach's Bees (rushomancy), Monday, 6 May 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link
a former Netflix creative director just raised $1.6 million for a startup that sells "straight edge" water in tall boy cans and their tagline is "nothing's better than water at murdering your thirst"https://t.co/KJI6Dx0tWd pic.twitter.com/dXBva5A0uP— Ryan Broderick (@broderick) May 7, 2019
does this count
― Simon H., Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link
spengleroffthescale.jpg
― deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link
going for a metal vibe, which is disproportionately male, so I'll say it clears the bar
― mh, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link
jesus fucking christ
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link
I love innovation
― Simon H., Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link
would count just as well as response to the totenkopf-aesthetic post in the other thread tho. lmao @ the blackletter
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link
You guys think you're so smart, huh. Why aren't you rich like Mike Cessario?
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link
also connects to the silicon valley thread. I had to consider my options.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link
age of mergers
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link
in fairness sprite's dreary injunction to "obey your thirst" clearly does not cut it in this time of upheaval
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link
shout out to the og edgelord brandhttps://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/0307/05/death-cigarettes-unopened-very-rare-originally-from_1_6c0f6cadacabac61137d8cde0d17a48a.jpg
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link
Elan Sleazebaggano was a male Balosar slythmonger who was present on Coruscant, the capital of the Galactic Republic, during the Separatist Crisis.
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link
how the hell is LIQUID DEATH not a Nathan Fielder thing
― frogbs, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link
we've definitely crossed the line from "commercials are indistinguishable from Tim & Eric homages" to "products seem to be designed by Nathan Fielder"
― mh, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5-03R8XsAAS-BS.jpg:small
always looking for brands that speak to me
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link
I'm part of the Totino's lifestyle. I'll admit it.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link
I was killing time at the bar over beers last week and started writing down a list of products think are embarrassing to buy versus products that are actually mortifying
kind of split the difference on Charmin with the bears on the packaging
― mh, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link
ass cream? you're a man who admits his problems and is taking care of them
water with a metal design scheme? mortifying
― mh, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link
the text on shampoo bottles is routinely amazing to me
especially love those that offer a french translation
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link
you're giving away my french language learning program idea
― mh, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link
rincez, ecoutez, et repetez
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link
vrais poo for mes sham friends
― Simon H., Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link
― mookieproof, Tuesday, May 7, 2019 12:49 PM Bookmark Flag Post
Man, tell me about it. I can't even buy a chainsaw in North America without seeing that prissy language all over everything.
https://i.imgur.com/kVs6llT.png
― pplains, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link
Hey, Poulan! France is in Europe, ok?
― pplains, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link
i've never understood why the french are so bad at chainsaw safety, but glad that the safety messaging is targeting them now
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link
miss u, Poulan Weed Eater Bowl
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link
I thought the famous chainsaw massacre happened in Texas?
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link
more like Paris, Texas
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link
The Liquid Death thing has a very retro 90s anti-marketing marketing kind of vibe to it. I could see it being successful for a short time and then falling off the map.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link
so bad ass....
We couldn't find a makeup brand formulated specifically for men's skin; so we created one: https://t.co/X0xaeIOBsV pic.twitter.com/XDRySRWTkq— War Paint (@warpaintmufm) May 8, 2019
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 22:40 (four years ago) link
marketing opportunity missed by not calling it ForSkin
― mick signals, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 22:44 (four years ago) link
they'll probably change the name to that after they find out that the band "warpaint" contains GIRLS, thus ruining their brand name forever
― Burt Bacharach's Bees (rushomancy), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 22:47 (four years ago) link
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link
This was literally the exact premise of an episode of Corporate.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 8 May 2019 23:25 (four years ago) link
Men, should you be wearing makeup? Probably – you look terrible. pic.twitter.com/BPWDqahjqU— Corporate (@corporate) January 30, 2019
― Simon H., Wednesday, 8 May 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link
So You Want to Market a Product for Men
Remember, any product can be marketed to men, even something that has been the exclusive province of women for time immemorial, like water. All you need to do is make sure your marketing materials are really tough and masculine.Connect with men by showing them things they love. Things like: fire, tattoos, blood (non-menstrual), skulls, bulls, spikes, leather bracelets, dirt, rocks, SEXXX, mountains, cold hard CA$$$H, motorcycles, barbells, gray T-shirts, red meat, Joe Rogan, golden retrievers, skateboarding, camo, guitars, dinosaurs, sports, knives, arm-wrestling, regular wrestling, the constant all-consuming fear that if you don’t assert your masculinity aggressively enough people will dismiss you, sweat, shredded abs, tigers, saying swears, cigars, quoting Scarface, more SEX, weapons, Tucker Max, baseball caps, jackhammering, mud, trucks, iron, the Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition, abandoned construction sites, brown liquors, those big tires you push over, etc.So, for example, say you’re trying to sell an exciting new fruit-forward Pinot Noir from Oregon. Call it Dirt Blood, and have your ads be videos of a man driving a truck on a dirt road and chugging Pinot, before pulling over to make out with a woman with big boobs (hot). Then maybe he looks into the camera and says something like, “Dirt … It’s in my blood.” And you’re like, What? But you’re also pumped. You’re pumped to buy a wine called Dirt Blood.
Connect with men by showing them things they love. Things like: fire, tattoos, blood (non-menstrual), skulls, bulls, spikes, leather bracelets, dirt, rocks, SEXXX, mountains, cold hard CA$$$H, motorcycles, barbells, gray T-shirts, red meat, Joe Rogan, golden retrievers, skateboarding, camo, guitars, dinosaurs, sports, knives, arm-wrestling, regular wrestling, the constant all-consuming fear that if you don’t assert your masculinity aggressively enough people will dismiss you, sweat, shredded abs, tigers, saying swears, cigars, quoting Scarface, more SEX, weapons, Tucker Max, baseball caps, jackhammering, mud, trucks, iron, the Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition, abandoned construction sites, brown liquors, those big tires you push over, etc.
So, for example, say you’re trying to sell an exciting new fruit-forward Pinot Noir from Oregon. Call it Dirt Blood, and have your ads be videos of a man driving a truck on a dirt road and chugging Pinot, before pulling over to make out with a woman with big boobs (hot). Then maybe he looks into the camera and says something like, “Dirt … It’s in my blood.” And you’re like, What? But you’re also pumped. You’re pumped to buy a wine called Dirt Blood.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 10 May 2019 12:20 (four years ago) link
not a great attempt
― FernandoHierro, Friday, 10 May 2019 12:22 (four years ago) link
Love that it only took a handful of replies before the War Paint twitter dude 'actually'-ed a woman.
― Artisanal Personality Disorder (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 May 2019 12:30 (four years ago) link
i legit thought the war paint thing was a parody
― marcos, Friday, 10 May 2019 13:03 (four years ago) link
We may have previously been safe in assuming such things but we're kind of in a whole new world now.
― Artisanal Personality Disorder (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 May 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link
Liquid Death seems like a pretty tongue-in-cheek angle, the true insecure macho version would be, like, "Tactical H20" in camo flasks (maybe this already exists, but I'd rather not know).
― days of being riled (zchyrs), Friday, 10 May 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link
(This is not to say that Liquid Death isn't also stupid and embarrassing).
eagerly awaiting the emergence of an anal hygiene product for manly men
they can call it "DoucheBro"
― Burt Bacharach's Bees (rushomancy), Friday, 10 May 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link
Emena.
― pomenitul, Friday, 10 May 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link
Old Spice
― Yerac, Friday, 10 May 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link
epsom salts?
― :∵·∴·∵: (crüt), Friday, 10 May 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link
like ..... water?
an overarching problem here is the stupidity of all marketing i mean i know we all get that but
― deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Friday, 10 May 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link
I wouldn't know who to be without the guidepost of products marketed to my particular demographic. I get the impression that I should be punching more things and perhaps bellowing incoherently.
― Artisanal Personality Disorder (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link
I get the impression that I should be punching more things and perhaps bellowing incoherently.
As should we all.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:20 (four years ago) link
I had to go to Target today to buy things like paper towels and household cleaning products, but I reinforced my masculinity by picking up a Blu-Ray set of the first two John Wick movies while I was there.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:21 (four years ago) link
thinking about picking up some Mandles so my house can smell like napalm
― frogbs, Friday, 10 May 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link
step 1) constantly rub your knuckles at work and complain about how they hurt, until someone asksstep 2) "..."step 3) "...punched a wall"step 4) "...I don't want to talk about it"step 5) drink camo H20
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link
Way to snake my Camo H2O ad pitch, bro. (punches wall)
― Artisanal Personality Disorder (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:27 (four years ago) link
(damn...that hydrated guy is so manly...)
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link
Maybe my ctrl+f skills are failing me atm, but I'm frankly flabbergasted that no one itt ever brought up Devour, the frozen meals you just can't wait to bone.
― Artisanal Personality Disorder (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:49 (four years ago) link
there are very few times in my life where I've understood the "punch a wall" impulse but I've heard a ridiculous number of stories of others doing so
― mh, Friday, 10 May 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/6oyGkCA.png?1
― pplains, Saturday, 11 May 2019 00:10 (four years ago) link
just overheard on a television i could not see: THE PLAID SHIRT HAS SIGNIFIED STRENGTH FOR OVER 100 YEARS
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 23:42 (four years ago) link
And the plaid skirt did for 1000 years before that, fuckers!
― Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 01:46 (four years ago) link
i don't understand that drywall post at all
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:15 (four years ago) link
I think it's equivalent to
Person:Mildly inconvenienced white guy: Finally! A worthy opponent! Our battle will be legendary!
― jmm, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link
Is it because some guys punch drywall when they get emotional? I don't get it either.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:47 (four years ago) link
Yeah, belay my last post, I guess the joke is that white guys will get angry and punch a wall at the mildest inconvenience.
― jmm, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/qVZDQYg.png
https://i.imgur.com/Q65RmTO.png
― pplains, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:50 (four years ago) link
I once kicked a hole in drywall because we were tearing down a wall anyway and the stud was behind it. I cracked the ball of my foot. It kind of sucked.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link
the joke is that white guys will get angry and punch a wall at the mildest inconvenience.
― jmm, Wednesday, June 5, 2019 3:49 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This really is a thing though, right? I've seen it happen around me. Odd.
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link
I don't understand where it came from? Seeing your dad do it? I feel like I have been in frat houses/boy college apartments that had a lot of those holes in the wall.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:58 (four years ago) link
My best friend put a hole in a wall at a party in college, but it was when she she put her foot up on the wall to tie her shoelace.
― tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:18 (four years ago) link
the worst I've ever done in my life was angrily kicking a hollow core door
somehow, even barefoot, I kicked all the way through it
so, a very shameful incident, but kind of impressive nonetheless
― mh, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link
we used to party with a dude who would randomly get angry and punch holes in the wall, I remember most of us just praying he'd hit a stud but he never did
― frogbs, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link
in my experience you either have to be predisposed to punching and kicking shit or be pretty horrible at emotional regulation to start hitting the architecture
― mh, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link
I went to high school with a dude who punched a brick wall after his girlfriend dumped him. Unsurprisingly, he did not put a hole in it.
― Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link
https://d13ezvd6yrslxm.cloudfront.net/wp/wp-content/images/Silicon-Valley-Door-Kick.jpg
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:18 (four years ago) link
Que es mas macho: punching holes in drywall or patching holes in drywall?
― Brad C., Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:27 (four years ago) link
xp maybe the hole punchers would be modifying behavior quicker if we weren't in such a ubiquitous drywall culture. or we'd have a lot more hospital visits
my house has some drywall over lathe/plaster. sure as hell not punching anything around there
― mh, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link
The most I ever did was kick in the door of my parents' kitchen cabinet as a teenager. I felt bad for destroying their kitchen cabinet after.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:30 (four years ago) link
I use to throw the remote control at my brothers a lot growing up. I guess we would also try to beat the crap out of each other but we were good and put our karate gloves on first. I have never felt the urge to angrily punch drywall.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link
I have punched a hole in a door in my house once during an argument. Not proud of it obviously but it's not really different from throwing/breaking dishes (which my wife has done a few times !), imo, or is it ?
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link
The symbolic meaning of the choice of thing to break seems p interesting
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link
I'm not sure that I could punch through drywall if I tried. My thing was always hitting or banging my head, which might be a similar impulse.
― jmm, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link
ahah, done that too !
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link
be pretty horrible at emotional regulation
and this is pretty otm !
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 16:04 (four years ago) link
yall houses be made of some shit huh
― godfellaz (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link
they're basically sheds
― kinder, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link
although my brother does live in a flat with cob walls so
― kinder, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link
― mh, Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:50 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark
completely OTM only i think it's and not or -- i'm not even sure what "predisposed to punching" means but the latter part is true for everyone i have ever personally seen punch a hole in the wall/door, which is >1 person
i have never had any desire to punch a hole in anything although i did accidentally fuck up an entire wall trying to do gymnastics between two plaster walls. my goal was to suspend myself and do a flip but the result was 1 massively fucked up wall and no flip :-/
people who punch things when they can't control their emotions are not the sort of company i keep anymorei guess.i understand the meme now and i also think its message sucks
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link
Quite agree, though I think the first time I read it I misinterpreted it as being about DIY. Like, dads be remodeling; they regard putting up an interior wall as a heroic act of epic proportions.
Having it be about punching/kicking walls is uglier. It's vastly better than punching/kicking people, I guess, but still I think: don't be That Guy. Breathe. Go for a walk.
― Velcromancer (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link
I guess there is the whole thing too of biological women generally experiencing more regular and extreme physical pain throughout their lives and men voluntarily seeking it out instead of trying to pull back from it (thus also not knowing how to manage it themselves.)
― Yerac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link
i think lots of people get the urge to punch things and this is white men once again trying to own like just basic human behaviour
― Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link
"hahaha cargo shorts! what a white guy thing! and mustaches! don't get me started!"
― Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link
prob good idea to get a white masculinity marketing thread goin
― godfellaz (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link
yall the meme is not pro-punching-drywall. it's heaping scorn on a constructed personality type. if there's something ugly about it it's that it reduces and inaccurately racializes a phenomenon of frantic lower-class rage (no doubt suburban men punch walls too but ime they don't buy, or redeem tabs for, nearly as much monster energy merchandise) into something for media twitter to wrinkle its nose at.
i have been embarrassed the last few weeks tho cuz i clipped my knuckles on a low ceiling doing jumping jacks and people have been asking if i'm okay lol
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link
they don't buy, or redeem tabs for, nearly as much monster energy merchandise
lest this reference seem totally cryptic here is a primer from new thread resource "mel beta"
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link
http://i68.tinypic.com/2ni5pua.gif
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link
and to think that all drywall did was "*exist*"
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
last time i put a hole in any kind of construction material was about a month ago when the community players were breaking down the contents of an ancient storage shed and i kicked a rotting flat. my foot was fine but i had never seen anything like the waterfall of cockroaches that emerged and kept emerging. it was like temple of doom. some of them were albino.
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link
Another aspect to it is that it's drywall. Big Bad Dude all bent out of shape about something! So angry! Does he punch wood? Brick? No! He lays into a 3/8" thick sheet of fibrous gypsum and shows it who's BOSS.
You may as well pop balloons because you're so full of rage.
― pplains, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link
I’m picturing a muscular supervillain doing that in a movie.Juggernaut.. CRUSH.. Balloon
― ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link
I’m generally a pretty chill white male but I did punch my car door after a series of terrible driving decisions left me stuck in downtown Seattle traffic for what felt like an eternity. My hand did not defeat the door, but I suppose it was self-directed anger anyway so maybe that was the purpose. Anyway it hurt and I felt pretty dumb! Lesson is, never drive.
― Eid y’self Fitr (JoeStork), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 23:28 (four years ago) link
my uncle punched a wall and broke his hand once
much respect to that wall
― Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 23:53 (four years ago) link
wait white dudes punch walls more than dudes of color
this sounds...wildly speculative
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 6 June 2019 03:14 (four years ago) link
I once stayed in a short term rental apartment with a fisthole in the wall above the bed. Landlord's deep apologies, the previous tenant, Gene, left in a rage but had promised to return and patch it up. Imagine my surprise when Gene actually showed up a few days later toting spackle and was a woman.no really imagine itPS spackle is saggily inadequate for fistholes. What is the frequent punchers' recommended wall repair method, anyway?
― mick signals, Thursday, 6 June 2019 03:42 (four years ago) link
you gotta buy that mesh or the spackle just crumbles
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 6 June 2019 04:27 (four years ago) link
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera),
i'm not sure either, but i originally took it to refer to that kind of deep husky cowboy voice that does the voiceovers for commercials aimed at household chores. there's a certain kind of household appliance commercial style that elevates the task into a kind of manly patriotic duty.
making this up, but it's like "every weekend. you mow the lawn. because you're precise. *string accompaniment begins fading in* and it doesn't matter how long it takes. because it's not about you. it's about doing things right. *other orchestra instruments start joining in* it's about doing things the right _way_. because you care *sweeping timpani crescendo, choral group begins singing aaron copland's arrangement of SImple Gifts* because you're always going to be there. every weekend. until the job is done. john deere. because nothing runs like a deer...e"
so when i saw mildly inconvenienced white guy overreacting to drywall that way, i thought of it as another mundane household task that would be fashioned into a feat of faithful courage by some dumb commercial. not sure that makes sense now, though.
― i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Thursday, 6 June 2019 04:50 (four years ago) link
I know it's always annoying when someone does this, but: is this an American thing?
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 6 June 2019 10:04 (four years ago) link
I do <3 you, karl
― kinder, Thursday, 6 June 2019 11:49 (four years ago) link
Does Europe have drywall?
Is Europe even dry?
― pplains, Thursday, 6 June 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link
I'm sure dudes of color have hit plenty of walls, but it's mostly seen as a white guy thing since we've got (1.) misplaced and usually wrongful aggression, (2.) a certain privilege possessed that it takes to tear up your own property and (3.) it's not a punching bag or a pane of glass, but drywall, I think it's a white guy thing, sorry you all couldn't understand.
Ftr, I've never punched any wall. Saw my dad punch through some drywall once. It was simultaneously the silliest and scariest thing I'd ever witnessed up to that point.
― pplains, Thursday, 6 June 2019 12:30 (four years ago) link
I've very carefully cut into drywall with a pad saw for switches/socket outlets etc many times in the past. Punching drywall isn't the way to do it.
― calzino, Thursday, 6 June 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link
when I was a teen, I punched a bunch of holes in my room. when my parents decided to sell the home, they made me patch all of the holes and paint the room. pain in the ass. I wish I could say I never did it again, but years later while learning how to use contact lenses, I got angry and put the heel of my foot through a wall. I think I lost a few hundred dollars off my security deposit from that, so that was the last time. someone above otm about shoddily made modern homes/apartments.
― beard papa, Thursday, 6 June 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link
My house was built in 1939; walls are plaster and lath and brick, I guess? Some later wood paneling (probably laminate. If I wanted to punch drywall I'd have to go buy some drywall first. Which seems pretty involved. No thanks.
― Velcromancer (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 6 June 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link
in baseball it’s always very angry pitchers who punch walls and often they break their hand
― omar little, Thursday, 6 June 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link
We call it plasterboard in the UK, afaik. Here's Keith showing us how to style it out:
https://i.redd.it/eu7b8mf11ni11.jpg
― fetter, Thursday, 6 June 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link
when i was in the UK electrical installations biz they were called stud walls. I hated them tbh because you often would end up wearing out 3 spade bits drilling holes into wooden joists for the cables to go through and then you'd have plate every bit of wood the cable passes through and the less said about them horrible fast-fix boxes the better. And some people seemed to think this was much easier than chasing out plaster/brick and you'd be expected to finish it twice as fast.
― calzino, Thursday, 6 June 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link
I remember this happening in the 2004 NLCS, Julian Tavarez gave up a home run to Carlos Beltran and then went to the dugout and tried to beat up a telephone, breaking his hand in the process.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 6 June 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link
kinder <3
― i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Thursday, 6 June 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link
If I wanted to punch drywall I'd have to go buy some drywall firstBringing this back around to the thread topic, who wants to invest in my theme pub for men that has big sports on TVs and punchable walls replaced daily?
― mick signals, Thursday, 6 June 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link
Kevin Brown was a very good example, I remember this happening during his ill-fated 2004 season w/the Yankees:
In 2004, he posted a 10–6 record with a 4.09 ERA, but experienced health problems during the season. Toward the end of the season, he punched a wall in frustration,[7] injuring his hand.
― omar little, Thursday, 6 June 2019 16:19 (four years ago) link
xpYou might want to wait until the ax-throwing bar craze dies down.
― nickn, Thursday, 6 June 2019 16:29 (four years ago) link
it's sort of amazing how often this happens in baseball, and it's always pitchers
every once in a while there'll be a guy who at least remembered to use his non-pitching hand
― mookieproof, Thursday, 6 June 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/wjbavx/dumb-pitchers-punching-shit-and-getting-injured-a-selected-history
doesn't even mention Alex Reyes or Drew Pomeranz
― omar little, Thursday, 6 June 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link
There is a wealth of google search returns for punching a hole in drywall. sigh.
― Yerac, Thursday, 6 June 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link
https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/53b2d1cba923ddc669000060/master/w_768,c_limit/415744_pa_leftovers_poster_v5-1.jpg
dudes get equally angry at the burgers being overdone, a bad pitching performance, and the rapture
― omar little, Thursday, 6 June 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link
the silver lining is the low-key color commentary as they show some player demolishing the dugout phone with a bat... "don't think that phone's gonna work anymore" "they're giving him some space"
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 6 June 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/dB7Jt2Y.jpg
― pplains, Thursday, 6 June 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link
just want to point out that leftovers poster shows a white man punching a plaster wall, not drywall. ok?
― Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 6 June 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link
FUUUCK. *punches drywall* Somebody beat me to my great idea.
"Break Bar New York City is the cool bar in NYC where you can break stuff, smash stuff, and join our wrecking club!"
FAP?
― mick signals, Thursday, 6 June 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link
Fancy A Punch?
― nickn, Thursday, 6 June 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
got an idea for a monthly subscription service of sustainably sourced breakable shit.
― omar little, Thursday, 6 June 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link
the thrift stores of the usa salute you with their wide array of unwanted breakables
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 6 June 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link
The pics at that bar make me itchy.
― Yerac, Thursday, 6 June 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link
Meanwhile I saw an ad for ROSES FOR MEN. They aren't like some wimpy-ass tea roses favored by girls and betas. I mean these suckers are the size of baseballs.
Www.roseclubformen.com
Thought it was an SNL parody ad, apparently it is not.
― Velcromancer (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 6 June 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link
Broses.com was taken?
― mick signals, Thursday, 6 June 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link
once worked with this very damaged + "eccentric" steroid pumping badly aging ex-footie hooligan type who stone-faced reckoned he could chop a breeze block in half with his hand. Never mind punching a fucking bit of egg-box!
― calzino, Thursday, 6 June 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link
tried to get him to do a demonstration once, but the disorderly feng shui and noise of site was disrupting his flow!
― calzino, Thursday, 6 June 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link
Lol @ mick s.
― Velcromancer (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 6 June 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link
Disappointed that roseclubformen.com doesn't actually market the flowers for men.
https://i.imgur.com/0SBeZ7T.png
― pplains, Friday, 7 June 2019 01:09 (four years ago) link
got an order in from newegg recently and there's an ad for another one of those mail-order razorblade outfits. in fairness i do shave quite a bit more than men typically do but how many fucking mail-order razorblade outfits does one need, and why are they still writing their marketing material as if they're all competing exclusively with gillette?
― Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Monday, 10 June 2019 02:13 (four years ago) link
how....often do you shave
how....often do men shave
many of yr statements intrigue me
― godfellaz (darraghmac), Monday, 10 June 2019 06:46 (four years ago) link
I shave once a month, so this box sounds perfect.
― pplains, Monday, 10 June 2019 12:44 (four years ago) link
some of their business comes from heavy cocaine users
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 10 June 2019 13:32 (four years ago) link
https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/7/24/20696487/everyday-carry-reddit-knife-wallet-gun
― na (NA), Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:20 (four years ago) link
heh heh
― Vape Store (crüt), Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link
BRB, gotta go drop 'carry' (n.) in the 'words that annoy the shit out of you' thread
― my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:30 (four years ago) link
Though not everyone in the community is interested in firearms — Diale in particular was turned off at first by all the talk of carrying guns before realizing that the community was more about general-purpose tools — some members take it to extremes. For example, Frank says he often sees some gun enthusiasts in EDC spaces repeat the refrain “one is none,” which reflects their belief that carrying at least two firearms at once is the only way to ensure their personal safety.
walking around with guns and pouches strapped all over you like an imperial-phase rob liefeld drawing is the only way to be safe
― another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link
“At the end of the day, we just really like having stuff, you know?” he says, laughing. “And if it looks good and it’s functional, that’s all the better.”
this exact attitude is why the world is ending fyi
― another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link
At the end of the day, I just really like having a cart. And if a horse comes along to actually pull it somewhere, that's all the better.
― my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link
I have all kinds of “useful*” crap in my bag and I like having it there but the EDC “community” is totally execrable *my wife got new sneakers while we were on vacation but she didn’t like the laces. She asked if I had some laces and of course I did, in the pocket with the lint brush, the flashlight, the eyeglass repair kit and the tailor’s tape
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link
pictured: tombot modelling his vacation apparel
https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F78.media.tumblr.com%2F462e34418b75e31e3580828eb28c13c5%2Ftumblr_o8ioq27YtJ1qjztgpo1_400.gif&f=1
― another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link
And women regularly “EDC” about 20-30 functional items in their bag; I guess the masculinization of the practice is at least pretty funny in that respect. Men started carrying more than just a wallet and keys with them so all of a sudden putting stuff in a bag gets an acronym and a “culture” that embraces knives and guns
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:49 (four years ago) link
No one dares to call it a 'murse' when there's a camo print involved.
I've carried bags full of crap around with me my entire life, some of them explicitly ladies bags. Dudes be insecure af that their machismo might ever be in doubt.
― my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link
Also velcro is noisy as hell when you’re trying to get something out during a meeting.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link
lol every day meeting
― j., Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link
Where's the article about the substitute teacher who had both a gun and a knife in his pocket AT THE SAME TIME and the knife went through the trigger guard and accidentally discharged the weapon IN THE CLASSROOM? My top candidate for EDC super secret atom detector ring club.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link
I hadn’t heard that one. Funny not funny
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link
https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/2019/07/74-year-old-substitute-teacher-convicted-in-discharge-of-gun-in-1st-grade-blount-county-classroom.html
holy crap
― ☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link
https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/2019/03/why-did-74-year-old-substitute-teachers-gun-discharge-in-alabama-1st-grade-classroom.html“I completely forgot about the pistol in my pocket”
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link
74-year-old substitute teacher
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZXQR-cPXlmY/hqdefault.jpg
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link
My first thought when reading the article was that these are dudes who excitedly rush forward when the opportunity to, say, help someone get their keys out of their locked car arises and who manage at least half the time to inexplicably shoot a couple of their toes off in the process.
― my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link
https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/2019/03/why-did-74-year-old-substitute-teachers-gun-discharge-in-alabama-1st-grade-classroom.html“I completely forgot about the pistol in my pocket”― El Tomboto, Thursday, July 25, 2019 4:34 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
“I completely forgot about the pistol in my pocket”
― El Tomboto, Thursday, July 25, 2019 4:34 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Last I checked BWI had just caught it's 20th passenger of the year attempting to fly with a loaded pistol in their carry-on.
― ☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link
I managed to fly across the country and back in early 2002 (so like 4-5 months after 9/11) with one of my bags full of crap as a carry-on and only realized upon returning home that I had an X-Acto tucked in one of the pockets the whole time.
― my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link
wonder how many more actually made it through security theatre without having their weapon confiscated
― another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link
I like the irony of being robbed by capitalists who have convinced you that you need an expensive tactical defense wallet.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link
The TSA seized 90 guns from carry-on bags at airport security checkpoints during the 3rd week of July. All but 10 were loaded. 31 had a round chambered. https://t.co/AdDny2Vydd pic.twitter.com/yBrRQh0qNf— The Trace (@teamtrace) July 24, 2019
― mookieproof, Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link
good luck usa
― another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link
when did real guns turn into videogame guns?
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link
Yeah, I've never seen any shit like that before. Purple and blue are the colors my daughter's fucking Nerf gun comes in.
― ☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link
Exactly, you make the mistake of buying your nephew a boring old slate-grey grownup handgun for his birthday and the bullet he fires into your right buttcheek is a permanent reminder that kids want pizazz.
― my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link
remember a couple of years back when the tsa failed 95% of its own internal undercover security tests
― another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link
they're always extremely thorough with me so i always find this stuff surprising
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link
They got my wife's bottle of lotion on her last trip. I think there's no fooling them these days.
― ☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link
flying from vancouver to LA: extremely cursory and listless security.flying back: going through an x-ray machine, having hands swabbed for residues, super intrusive pat down.
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link
EDC?? Uh, I have several pockets in my pants and my shirt because men are allowed to have such conveniences. Into these I place a variety of objects for my personal use. But I don't fetishize them. Maybe I should join one of those EDC chat groups and upload a lovingly lit photo of my snot rag.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link
What do you empty your pockets into at the end of the day if not a shrine where every object is anointed with oil and ritually sanctified before Brohama, the god of confused masculine posturing?
― my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link
After 13 years of internal accountability reviews, the TSA is still missing an overwhelming majority of potential threats.This concern is confirmed by the fact that DHS undercover agents have successfully flouted TSA security before:“A similar episode played out in 2013, when an undercover investigator with a fake bomb hidden on his body passed through a metal detector, went through a pat-down at New Jersey’s Newark Liberty Airport, and was never caught.”
― another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link
Don't worry, folks, they took extra time during my last trip to conduct some tests to ensure that my foot powder was not in fact anthrax. Although now that I think about it, they didn't seem all that concerned about the fact that I recently had my left arm replaced with a functioning shotgun.
― my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link
I always get startled a bit when they poke around in my hair when I have it up in a bun.
― Yerac, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link
don’t worry, they’re not gonna find anything
― another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:58 (four years ago) link
My hair is full of secrets...and joints. #GDF18 pic.twitter.com/01ocog9TnV— ittybittykitties (@femaleorganism) July 22, 2018
― ☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link
Never confuse one local TSA tree for the nationwide TSA forest. Some shops are still miles better than others. Also, get Pre✔️ already.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link
The everyday carry mob seem to be responsible for the lack of good men’s shoulder bags. Everything has to be a rucksack now.
I once took a can of Dr browns celery soda through jfk security. It was delicious.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 25 July 2019 22:17 (four years ago) link
I’m a bag junkie from way before the EDC goons and their stupid knives and dumb three letter acronym.What are you looking for in a shoulder bag? Brief? Satchel? Messenger? Something that actually works on a bike?
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 26 July 2019 01:00 (four years ago) link
Something on one shoulder could work on a bike too but mainly for walking. The ideal one would have bottle pockets at either end, one for an umbrella one for a water bottle. Useful internal pockets. I need to carry a lap top, papers, book/kindle, headphones (massive and in a case) lunchbox, chopsticks, coffee cup, my pouch of chargers and useful cables, spare battery, bag of nuts, passport, foreign travel cards and foreign money wallet. Ideally would have one of those sleeves that alloys you to strap it to some rolling luggage.
My wife has a much abused, ancient and much loved baby nappy bag which fits this description very well. It’s been her work bag for years and is highly function. Repaired many times and I’m very jealous and it also seems to be irreplaceable.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 26 July 2019 01:11 (four years ago) link
ed
that is madness
― j., Friday, 26 July 2019 01:13 (four years ago) link
It's basically my office, but, on the plus side, it can be anywhere in the world,
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 26 July 2019 01:16 (four years ago) link
I carry a bag to work every day but, like Cosmo Kramer, it’s mostly full of crackers.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 26 July 2019 01:28 (four years ago) link
: D
― j., Friday, 26 July 2019 01:36 (four years ago) link
xpost, you might want to find a shoulder bag that you you like the exterior of and then get a drop in insert that usually provides better padded compartments.
― Yerac, Friday, 26 July 2019 02:06 (four years ago) link
also useful if you have multiple bags so you can just move the insides easily between them.
― Yerac, Friday, 26 July 2019 02:07 (four years ago) link
I used to use a timbuk2 bag that had the “bottle pockets” on the outside and had all the other bits, mostly
a full lunchbox seems like a separate concern, unless you’re wearing a hiking backpack
― untuned mass damper (mh), Friday, 26 July 2019 02:25 (four years ago) link
i live in nyc. i carry my keys, my wallet and my phone, and i don't understand why all these dudes are wearing enormous fucking backpacks on the subway. you're going to work, probably in an office building; you don't need shoelaces and duct tape or whatever everywhere you go in manhattan
the women carry small bags and it's fine; it's the chunky guy with the full backpack and the noise-canceling headphones who stands in the middle and can't hang on to anything because he's playing a game on his phone whom i will ultimately be convicted of killing
― mookieproof, Friday, 26 July 2019 02:58 (four years ago) link
the only huge backpacks here are on tourists and it crosses gender lines
― L'assie (Euler), Friday, 26 July 2019 07:50 (four years ago) link
xp: my backpack typically contains my lunch, glasses case, sunscreen, an umbrella, tissues, hand sanitizer, backup phone charger, a book, and gym clothes if I'm planning to work out on my lunch break.
― ☮ (peace, man), Friday, 26 July 2019 08:25 (four years ago) link
I've been a bag carrier for a good 25 years and it's mainly been about books and water with a bunch of other crap along for the ride. I've always been a one-strap shoulder bag advocate but my back's fucked so I'm more likely to use a rucksack these days. As an aside, I've had a beard for that long too and it bores me that everyone else has one now. I was in a pub briefly yesterday (yes, of course it was a craft place) and everyone was bald and bearded, and everyone had a bag. My life is a Will Oldham convention.
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Friday, 26 July 2019 09:21 (four years ago) link
everyone was bald and bearded, and everyone had a bag
it me
― another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 26 July 2019 09:31 (four years ago) link
it's the chunky guy with the full backpack and the noise-canceling headphones who stands in the middle and can't hang on to anything because he's playing a game on his phone whom i will ultimately be convicted of killing― mookieproof, Friday, 26 July 2019 12:58 PM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― mookieproof, Friday, 26 July 2019 12:58 PM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Part of the reason why I prefer a shoulder bag is I don’t want to be that guy. People with backpacks tend to have a terrible sense of space. (Myself included who, as a child on my way to school, spun round to get my rucksack out of the way and ended up getting my head stuck in the door of a jubilee line train at west hampstead)
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 26 July 2019 10:43 (four years ago) link
Me too, btw - didn't mean I was any different.
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Friday, 26 July 2019 10:55 (four years ago) link
i didn't think you did! baggy balding beardos of the world unite
― another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 26 July 2019 10:57 (four years ago) link
The glabrous shall inherit the earth!
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Friday, 26 July 2019 11:05 (four years ago) link
It also me.
My bag is enormous mostly because I always have like two enormous books (500 and 900 pgs. at the mo) with me at all times.
― my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 July 2019 11:49 (four years ago) link
If I weren't to use a backpack, I'd probably just have to look for some kind of trousers that had more and bigger pockets.
― ☮ (peace, man), Friday, 26 July 2019 11:51 (four years ago) link
I've had a condition since childhood wherein I will literally die if I leave the house without some sort of bound printed matter on my person, so pockets-only just isn't an option for me, unfortunately.
― my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 July 2019 11:59 (four years ago) link
(The technical term for my condition is 'being a nerd' btw.)
― my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 July 2019 12:00 (four years ago) link
Bags come in other shapes than rucksacks, even if the EDC mob seem determined to deny this.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 26 July 2019 12:02 (four years ago) link
I bought a used Goruck a few years ago and it’s almost my perfect bag. Laptop, gym stuff (inc. shoes and flops), giant salad container for lunch, headphone (noise canceling) case, and then my assortment of things I can’t be without like spare phone battery, cables, and a paperback.
― beard papa, Friday, 26 July 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link
which one is it? i need a new bag for that kind of thing
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 26 July 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link
Ed, you might be interested in the discontinued comedy-size Chrome Kremlin.For the volume of stuff you’re wanting to cram in, plus occasional bike duty (which really benefits from a stabilizer strap), a shoulder bag will be a tough squeeze.Whereas the Kremlin is a proper messenger that can also double as a cape or poncho :D
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 26 July 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link
on the fancier side, Bedouin Foundry offers their messenger in volumes up to 45L...https://bedouinfoundry.com/pages/size-guide
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 26 July 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link
or for something more everyday practical, maybe check out the Lexdray Symmetry Mumbai or Booq Boa Nerve
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 26 July 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link
@Tracer Hand it's the GR1. I never mentioned things I do not like about it: It's heavy compared to packs made of synthetic material and it's not water proof.
― beard papa, Friday, 26 July 2019 22:38 (four years ago) link
I think you’re overestimating the size I need. It’s more about organisation. The aforementioned lunchbox is a small tin approx 8cmx 10cm x 15cm.
The peak design everyday 15 is the best I’ve seen so far but I’d really like pockets on the outside for an umbrella and water bottle
I keep hoping i’ll stumble into the perfect thing in japan
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 26 July 2019 22:54 (four years ago) link
im a john rocha khaki backpack man meself
hope thats ok
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Friday, 26 July 2019 23:53 (four years ago) link
I used an LA Police Gear bug-out-bag (conference freebie) from 2010-2017, until the nylon on the bottom started getting multiple holes in it. Now I have a Topo Designs mini mountain bag with a leather bottom and a shoulder strap made of seatbelt material, and I love the bag in general, but the cordura has already worn thin where it’s been rubbing against laptop edges.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 27 July 2019 00:20 (four years ago) link
LA Police Gear sells cool Spiewak jackets
― brimstead, Saturday, 27 July 2019 02:01 (four years ago) link
I have a light grey canvas victorinox backpack, the lining is a pattern of pink sunglasses
― brimstead, Saturday, 27 July 2019 02:06 (four years ago) link
i live in nyc. i carry my keys, my wallet and my phone, and i don't understand why all these dudes are wearing enormous fucking backpacks on the subway.
I've always been a shoulder bag dude and that's why I now have a spine pain and the doctor said I must carry my stuff symmetrically on two shoulders. So I have become the dude with the enormous fucking backpack on the subway and all that's in it is a paperback and a chef's knife. Is this the thread where I can get help? Should I be the dude with the 90s mini backpack?
― mick signals, Saturday, 27 July 2019 02:40 (four years ago) link
my backpack is sized appropriately for my frame and is covered with cool patches that represent my various interests
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 27 July 2019 02:42 (four years ago) link
there are... backpacks of many sizes
― untuned mass damper (mh), Saturday, 27 July 2019 02:46 (four years ago) link
lmao is it time for a “your fucking EDC” thread?
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 27 July 2019 02:46 (four years ago) link
we have one of those already
― j., Saturday, 27 July 2019 02:50 (four years ago) link
lol who knew
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 27 July 2019 02:53 (four years ago) link
where it at?
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 27 July 2019 02:54 (four years ago) link
Backpacks of every size feel oversized to me but perhaps just categorically lack the single-shoulder grace I'm used to
― mick signals, Saturday, 27 July 2019 02:56 (four years ago) link
xp there's one on man-purses and one on all the crap you have in your bag
― j., Saturday, 27 July 2019 03:16 (four years ago) link
xp I Love Rucksacks
― maffew12, Saturday, 27 July 2019 11:09 (four years ago) link
“Feel clean. Smell fresh. Be soapy. With Axe Phoenix, explore your bathsculinity and sink into a cushion of Mint & Rosemary-scented bubbles.”
― calstars, Saturday, 27 July 2019 13:27 (four years ago) link
back on topic with a bang
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 27 July 2019 13:45 (four years ago) link
Dying @ bathsculinity
― CumuloNIMBY (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 27 July 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link
I think “discover” would have been better there than “explore,” but it doesn’t really matter in light of the coinage
― calstars, Saturday, 27 July 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link
I’m intrigued, but first I need to know if it’s been specially formulated for my rugged man skin
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 27 July 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link
mint seems safe enough. rosemary sounds suspiciously girly.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 27 July 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link
Just drop the rosemary into a pint of whiskey imo, very refreshing while felling a tree to provide firewood for your family
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 27 July 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link
“The Art of Self-Defense” is a good movie adjacent to this
― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 27 July 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link
KM brings up a good point. if I don’t like what it does to my skin, can I just drink this sh1t?
― calstars, Saturday, 27 July 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link
Just saw an ad (thankfully the sound was off) for this brand, which seems like an apotheosis of the thread topic:https://www.forhims.com/
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 27 July 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link
this is deeply obnoxious but at least less aggro than some of the worst shit we've seen in here
― Simon H., Saturday, 27 July 2019 19:38 (four years ago) link
sh1t
not very masculine
― mookieproof, Saturday, 27 July 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link
ooof thats a badun
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 July 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/08/05/self-care-for-men
"thimapy"
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link
I was in a sporting goods store the other day and they had a whole display of Duke Cannon products.
Duke Cannon hails from a simpler time. A time when the term handyman was redundant. A time when chivalry and patriotism weren’t considered old- fashioned. A time when you never put the word salad next to bar.But something happened along the way. Men were encouraged to put down their lug wrenches and pick up their phones to hashtag for help. Substance was replaced by the flash of guys taking selfies. And instead of getting up before dawn to build railroads, men started going to the gym at 9 a.m. to ride pretend bicycles.As any historian worth his salt will tell you, this country was built by folks with a sense of purpose. Duke Cannon’s purpose is simple: to make superior-quality grooming goods that meet the high standards of hard-working men. Our products are tested by soldiers, not boy bands. And they’re made in a little place we like to call the United States of America.We value things like hard work, family, community, bacon and country; we champion builders, creators, sledge hammerers, holders of doors and fixers of toilets; we have the utmost respect for teachers and farmers and soldiers and first responders—so it’s no wonder good folks feel right at home in Duke Cannon Country.
But something happened along the way. Men were encouraged to put down their lug wrenches and pick up their phones to hashtag for help. Substance was replaced by the flash of guys taking selfies. And instead of getting up before dawn to build railroads, men started going to the gym at 9 a.m. to ride pretend bicycles.
As any historian worth his salt will tell you, this country was built by folks with a sense of purpose. Duke Cannon’s purpose is simple: to make superior-quality grooming goods that meet the high standards of hard-working men. Our products are tested by soldiers, not boy bands. And they’re made in a little place we like to call the United States of America.
We value things like hard work, family, community, bacon and country; we champion builders, creators, sledge hammerers, holders of doors and fixers of toilets; we have the utmost respect for teachers and farmers and soldiers and first responders—so it’s no wonder good folks feel right at home in Duke Cannon Country.
Barf. Also, teachers??? I mean I love teachers and think they should get paid a million bucks and we should listen to them more, but out of that line up, one of these things is not like the other.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link
They sell a soap-on-a-rope product that makes prison rape jokes on the packaging and also refers to the nylon cord as "military grade" so I think we're done here.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link
As any historian worth his salt will tell you, this country was built by folks with a sense of purpose.
― another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link
yeah, this would be a contender for Most Marketing of Masculinity, Ever, except for the teacher reference. they really fucked up there
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link
I came across a display of that stuff one night, pulled out my phone's camera for this thread and then... decided that really, I just wanted to forget that I had ever bore witness to such a thing.
― pplains, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link
However, I have been getting up before dawn lately to build a railroad, and lemme tell ya, my neighbors hate my guts.
― pplains, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link
customer review for the 4-count variety pack of "Big Ass Bricks of Soap" titled:
"It's nice to no longer be tied to either old spice or Axe, the scents smell good, quite frankly amazing, but masculine at the same time. I feel like Axe or Old Spice are for boys, make em' feel confident by practically bathing in their products like cologne.....but Duke Cannon? That's a man's product."
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link
I got a letter from a pair of realtors who sold a house down the street advertising their services and they had "realtor bros" branding. They're actual brothers and probably are going for the Property Brothers association, except... they both looked super bro on their cards
now I'm worried some bros moved in down the block in some sort of "for bros by bros" deal
― untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link
that’s a weird way to refer to slaves but go off i guess
Biiiiiiig time.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link
real brostate
― calstars, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link
Brostate cancer.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link
You let enough brain deuces pile up in your thoracic and all of a sudden you’ve got Shark Piss streaming from your eyes!
sentence of the year
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link
hard work, family, community, bacon and country
ugh fuck off
― Vape Store (crüt), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link
― pplains, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:22 (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
as i understand it, americans have always felt this way about the people who built their railroads so...?
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link
Can't believe they went with "Duke" when "Dick" was right there.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link
I have ignored duke cannon’s marketing in order to try out their giant bar soap and, unsurprisingly, it doesn’t come close to Pré de Provence or whatever big chunky herbal / oatmeal bar soap you care to try from your local farmers market / organic grocer
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link
have you tried having someone (preferably a hairy man with no shirt on) throw the brick of soap at you? you're not clean unless you get bruised up a little
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link
for you guys who are in relationships/live with women, don't you all just share all your products???
― Yerac, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link
I gave up counting the american flags in that duke cannon promo.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link
I have to wonder how many swirlies per day the writer of that wish-fullfilling machorgasmic copy received in his school days.
― my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link
haha um no
I have no products apart from some fairly generic aftershave (which I really only use when I shave my head every couple weeks) and Dr. Bronner's.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link
'Maybe if I talk about how salad bars are for pussies the football players will bro down with me at our next reunion.'
― my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link
bronners for life
― cheese canopy (map), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link
the soap is good but the lack of masc marketing psychic aggression is where its true value lies
― cheese canopy (map), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link
"Duke Cannon’s premium grooming goods will not get you laid, and they won’t make you more manly. They promise only to you get you clean, smelling, and feeling good. Your masculinity is not defined by the brands you use but by the actions you take. The Duke Cannon brand is FOR decent, hard-working men; it doesn’t help create them."
such mixed messaging
― Yerac, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link
Duck Bonner never gonna come close to the hypercharged gender identification found in these spots:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt0c-SkQuwg
― pplains, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link
We share some of the bar soap, that’s about it. I always prefer exfoliating stuff, she usually doesn’t. I use Mane & Tail, she has hair that actually requires attention. We have three of the same type of hairbrush but I’ve gone ahead and labeled the back of each one with a white paint pen, that’s probably the most indicative detail here.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link
― Yerac, Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:03 PM (thirty-one minutes ago)
i don't like to use my gf's products because they're usually more expensive and she buys them. i share her sunscreen and moisturizer if she has bought a cheaper one. and i use cheap shower gel and head and shoulders and sunscreen and salicylic acid for my zittiness and that's it.
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
oh and i buy my own cheap moisturizer if she only has more expensive stuff
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link
can't believe I didn't weigh in 10 years ago about installing drywall -- mudding & taping is not hard.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
actually, it is somewhat similar to making a pie crust.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:43 (four years ago) link
re sharing product, if something doesnt pass muster ill have it passed on to me tbh
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link
No, we each have our own stuff.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link
i've been single for 10 years, but was basically married for 11 years prior, and the idea of "sharing all your products" was a bit too close for comfort.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 21:07 (four years ago) link
we share the products that we both need (soap, shampoo, conditioner, skin lotion), I just use whatever brands she chooses
― Brad C., Tuesday, 30 July 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link
she doesn't like me sharing lol
― Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link
My partner has very fancy/expensive cleaning products, and I’m happy just throwing soap at my skin, so we use separate products as well
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 21:19 (four years ago) link
― beard papa, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 04:17 (four years ago) link
relationships with live women, lol
― j., Wednesday, 31 July 2019 04:32 (four years ago) link
― brimstead, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 04:45 (four years ago) link
question marks, whatever
― brimstead, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 04:47 (four years ago) link
Yep. Having the same 'taste' helps, I guess, but I can't imagine having such vastly different preferences that either couldn't/wouldn't use the other's. But I'm not married to any of my shower products.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 08:21 (four years ago) link
Same soap, but that's about it. We use different shampoos because my hair gets oily whereas hers gets dry (mine is still a 'woman's' product though). Different deodorants as well (we both avoid antiperspirants, however), as I tend to sweat more on average. I don't really use anything else aside from the occasional conditioner (which we share) and cologne, so the rest is all hers.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 08:41 (four years ago) link
I don't even use the same bathroom as my wife.
― pplains, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 09:54 (four years ago) link
I woulda thought sharing all the products (as we do) is a "masculine" attitude, in that the "man" is not supposed to care about this stuff.
― L'assie (Euler), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 09:58 (four years ago) link
Oh and the same shaving foam.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 09:59 (four years ago) link
the question marks were because I didn't know there was such a niche for men to have their own soap/shampoo/etc if they are living in a family situation and don't have special needs (like eczema or other sensitivities).
i am probably a super social groomer though.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link
When me and my two college buddies finally got a house together, second morning I noticed three bars of soap.
"Really?" I asked. "Are we going to have three rolls of toilet paper too?"
Whenever I'd get mad at one of them, I'd use his soap instead of my own.
― pplains, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 13:33 (four years ago) link
any nice skincare stuff I have, I slather on my partner. I have to look at him every day; he needs to preserve his beauty.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 13:36 (four years ago) link
hopefully he doesn't find my past internet search history for 'harvesting skin tissue"
― Yerac, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link
Hair varies a fair amount from person to person. Baldness is also more common among men.
Same goes for armpits. When it's steaming hot out, you can certainly tell the difference between my wife and me, and I'm hardly a profuse perspirer to begin with.
YMMV, of course.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link
― L'assie (Euler), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 09:58 (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
arah look if a man takes a shower in a forest, is he still wrong etc
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link
it depends on whether or not a WWI battle was fought in the forest
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link
I mean, yeah we share some things sometimes but I guess there are things that I’m just crazy about like e.g. SheaMoisture foaming face wash is my religion.
― brimstead, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link
I’m really “sensitive” towards smells or whatever too
― brimstead, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link
A lot of this new “masculine” stuff still just smells like locker rooms
Wonder if there's any Garnier that comes in Pine Tar.
― pplains, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link
nah just the laborer tar they normally use
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:06 (four years ago) link
the shower in one of my college-era bathrooms had a distinctly floral smell due to one (male) roommate who preferred herbal essences shampoo
the market segmentation of MAN products has led to a weird reconfiguration of stores where there's now two separate aisles with deodorant, meaning retailers have to choose whether brands that were relatively gender-neutral (in their marketing) get stocked in two aisles or one. I'm guessing there'll be a reversal in marketing and organization in a few years
― untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link
They should organize deodorant by scents and strength. I don't buy or regularly use deodorant so will use my spouse's if it's an extreme need. He tries to buy stuff that the smell doesn't repel me since I am at his armpit height anyway. But most deodorant smells like trash. It burns my eyes.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link
reminded, and not for the first time on this thread probably, of Paul Newman declaring in Blaze that his political opponent is "the kind of man that puts sticky stuff under his arms!"
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link
yeah the separate aisles thing is infuriating at my local target because the “men’s” shit is like 8 aisles away from everything else
― brimstead, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link
Ok, I will admit that the JÅSÖN “men’s forest fresh” deodorant is absolutely amazing and smells more like fresh produce than manly wood or whatever
― brimstead, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link
there's now two separate aisles with deodorant, meaning retailers have to choose whether brands that were relatively gender-neutral (in their marketing) get stocked in two aisles or one. I'm guessing there'll be a reversal in marketing and organization in a few years
― untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, July 31, 2019 12:34 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
Yes, as I've mentioned somewhere (possibly itt), I've used the same deodorant for maybe 25 years and it has shifted back and forth between 'unisex' and 'ladies only' several times over that span. AFAICT it is currently unisex but I must travel to the ladies aisle to procure it and therefore must noisily devour a raw steak on the way to keep my testes from permanently retreating into my body cavity
― Apprentice Taintjazzler (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link
which one is that?
― Yerac, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link
i make my own homemade unisex deodorant and haven't shopped in either aisle for deodorant for years! hmu if you want some, i am making a batch soon! it was merch for my band that has since fizzled due to geographical challenges.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link
xpost Degree something. Shower Fresh, maybe? Not sure of the name. Like obscenity, I know it when I see it.
― Apprentice Taintjazzler (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link
new, EXTREME Degree! you want to survive extreme temperatures becoming more common and more extreme, if that global warming bullshit hoax turns out to be true?? You better get EXTREME
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link
OBSCENE DEGREE
― kinder, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link
Lava should jump into the antiperspirant game, whip up an 'extra coarse' formula for REAL MEN that leaves your pits a tattered ruin.
― Apprentice Taintjazzler (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link
"dook cannon" is the term we used as kids for someone at the pool who had diarrhea.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link
doo doo shark
― Yerac, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link
i make my own homemade unisex deodorant and haven't shopped in either aisle for deodorant for years! hmu if you want some, i am making a batch soon!
i have tried it! it has a nice smell!
― sarahell, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link
LL, I need to read some tantalizing copy about your unisex deodorant.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link
Suitable for any human armpit ISO odor control, [my band's name] deodorant is handcrafted from natural emollients, a custom blend of essential oils, and odor-absorbing agents to keep you smelling fresh under stress. Product is vegan, sold in travel-friendly small glass jars, and is refillable for locals.
That's about the best I can do to tantalize without listing ingredients. I have a little poster + a picture of the product with the poster but I would rather not post it bc tbh idk how to post a photo from my phone to ilx anymore
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link
but will it get us laid? and can you mix in some bacon grease?
― Yerac, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 22:05 (four years ago) link
Made with old fashioned bacon grease and human ingenuity, [my band’s name] deodorant will control yr stench & still blast your unique musk to attract the partner of your dreams.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 22:39 (four years ago) link
why am i thinking of dicks coated in bacon grease. ... thanks.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 23:42 (four years ago) link
as in "thanks, brain!" not "thanks, LL"
dumping that jar of stoveside rendered bacon fat over my areas
― untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, 1 August 2019 03:57 (four years ago) link
I only use vegan bacon grease in my deodorant.
― pplains, Thursday, 1 August 2019 12:39 (four years ago) link
Then good news fellas!! This deodorant is for you! Road tested by men and women, it will tamp down your malodorousness and showcase what makes you special!!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 1 August 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link
Native brand deodorants are good for you and also smell good. My wife and I got a sampler box and it turns out I kinda like the floral ones, like hibiscus and cucumber or whatever, which has a civilizing effect on my manfunk. and my wife digs the more neutral scents ones, like cedar and lemon. the musky bro-ish flavors popped-collar scents are still unused. Also, native manufacturer seasonal scents like blackberry sage that I would eat with a spoon if that weren’t weird.
― rb (soda), Thursday, 1 August 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link
is cucumber considered floral?
― sarahell, Thursday, 1 August 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link
I've been getting these goddamn Dr. Squatch ads on YouTube all week. I guess they aren't new, but it's the first time I've seen them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjEK7qQKRDY
― ☮ (peace, man), Friday, 2 August 2019 11:21 (four years ago) link
I actually use Stirling shaving soap. And yeah, some of their scents have names like Executive Man or have a picture of a lumberjack on them or whatever, but they have fruity scents too and at least one specifically targeted toward women. I don't really care about the scents, so I just use their Naked and Smooth unscented variety. It makes a great lather anyway.
https://www.stirlingsoap.com/collections/shave-soap
― ☮ (peace, man), Friday, 2 August 2019 11:51 (four years ago) link
I don't know if it lacks magical shaving properties but I've just been using dr bronners when I trim up my neck
― untuned mass damper (mh), Friday, 2 August 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link
I was irritated by the beer in a plastic cup and where he pointed to the liver in that Dr Squatch video.
― Yerac, Friday, 2 August 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link
Bronners has a purpose-made shaving soap now that rules. I like wood, herb, and citrus scent tones and my partner likes more flowery ones, but she usually steals my deo (with silly macho packing) anyway.
― Three Word Username, Friday, 2 August 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link
i just go by what it says on the bronners soap label and i use it as shower-gel, mouthwash, shampoo, prophylactic, laundry detergent, shaving oil, abortifacient, floor cleaner, and douche. i also now ascribe to an idiosyncratic syncretic abrahamic religion
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 2 August 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link
The only time I ever tried Bronners it reminded me of furniture polish or something.
― ☮ (peace, man), Friday, 2 August 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link
I had a bf in college that used it. ... I did wish he would use it more often (not the most hygienic guy) ... but I had no problem w/the effect or smell
― sarahell, Friday, 2 August 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link
I like dr bronners. It's perfect for long hiking/camping trips to use for everything.
― Yerac, Friday, 2 August 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link
I thought about this thread at the Drab Majesty show, where I saw a couple dudes wearing tactical kilts. I wanted to ask them about their EDC sporrans. Also a lady with Sisters of Mercy logo earrings, but that's off-topic.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 2 August 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link
we could tie the earrings into a discussion of goth masculinity
― sarahell, Friday, 2 August 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link
and my teenage dream of having a bf/husband to share black kohl eyeliner with lol
― sarahell, Friday, 2 August 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link
Thinking of starting a skincare range, for men. To market it to men, the main ingredient will be gravel.It will contain microparticles of gravel, or "microgravel".I'll call the product Mangravel.— twitch.tv/Limmy (@DaftLimmy) August 18, 2019
The packaging will say "Are you man enough? Man up. Call yourself a man? You're no man"— twitch.tv/Limmy (@DaftLimmy) August 18, 2019
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Monday, 19 August 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link
Mike Gravel
― nickn, Monday, 19 August 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link
Someone's never heard of Lava. Call me when you upgrade to glass, bruh.
― Amply Drizzled with Pure Luxury (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 August 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link
New loofa for mens which is just ball of razor wire drenched in vinegar.
― Amply Drizzled with Pure Luxury (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 August 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link
Dove makes soap marketed to men, I've bought it when it's been on sale. The packaging design makes it look like Starcraft soap. I think they also know that men think if they use all the various products by a single company they will, like a video game's set armor, get additional charisma and strength buffs.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 19 August 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link
I am not a Jeremy Renner fan at all; this Jeremy Renner Store exclusive launch on amazon's front page seems like a parody.
I see it's already been written about.https://slate.com/culture/2019/08/jeremy-runner-amazon-store-hawkeye-deep-nature-wow.html
― Yerac, Monday, 26 August 2019 12:51 (four years ago) link
Going down Jeremy Renner hole (dirty) but now I am watching his new rock videos on youtube.
― Yerac, Monday, 26 August 2019 12:54 (four years ago) link
https://www.awesomeinventions.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/deodorant-stick-bite-embarrassing-fails.jpg
― McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 August 2019 12:59 (four years ago) link
I don't want any Axe ice cream treats
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 26 August 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link
ROAST BEEF WRAP W/ BIG BRO SAUCEThis wrap is packed with lean protein! Slow-roasted, thinly-sliced top round, provolone cheese, caramelized onions and spinach in a whole wheat wrap, served with a side of our "secret" Big BRO sauce.
https://eatcleanbro.com
― goole, Friday, 30 August 2019 17:04 (four years ago) link
stop
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 August 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link
Big BRO sauce is about as unappetizing a phrase as I can imagine.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 30 August 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link
esp when preceded by "secret"
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 30 August 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 30 August 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArAQxXJPD3Q
― ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 30 August 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link
don't watch the whole thing... it just gets weirder and not in a good way
― ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 30 August 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link
Internet Comment Etiquette is good not bad.
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Friday, 30 August 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link
Re: the fifteen seconds of that video that I watched with the sound off, there are times when I find it difficult even just watching men being the way that they apparently feel they're supposed to be. Like maybe engage one or two times in a genuine, vulnerable interaction with another human before foisting yourself onto the world, brah.
― McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Friday, 30 August 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link
That video I just posted? I like the first 6 minutes a lot. I’m not familiar with the channel; he plays lots of different characters, apparently.
― ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 30 August 2019 23:29 (four years ago) link
I had an idea for a product today: BEARD BOOTS. Handcrafted boots adorned with a mane of real human beard hair.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 1 September 2019 03:17 (four years ago) link
when it comes to oil-related accessories, would there be separate ones for the leather and the hair or some kind of artisanally formulated combo oil
― j., Sunday, 1 September 2019 03:38 (four years ago) link
I bought some Dove for Men soap today, because some doofus was standing in front of the regular Dove soaps spacing out and I had melting ice cream in my cart. But I like it! It's charcoal and clay so I am assuming it will make me a better, more exfoliated artist.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 1 September 2019 04:16 (four years ago) link
well if you've never dove for men, how masculine can you really be?
― pplains, Sunday, 1 September 2019 04:36 (four years ago) link
I was thinking Beard Boots might be like a normal Boots but with the one beard isle cut-and-pasted thru the shop so we don't have to wall past the No 7s and sanitary pads because we are Men With Beards
― thomasintrouble, Sunday, 1 September 2019 13:17 (four years ago) link
He’s gonna get so rich selling Mangria, 3-wick Mandles, strappy Mandals, Ceiling Mans to circulate air in your sultry den, Mandlebar Mustache Wax for Men, Pots & Mans, Sunman Lotion, Minimans for driving mini men & daughters, I guess. https://t.co/iEOzorJJTc— Caissie St.Onge (@Caissie) September 10, 2019
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 03:56 (four years ago) link
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― And the wind... cries... Larry (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:24 (four years ago) link
order before midnight and receive a ramekin of pure man spunk
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:29 (four years ago) link
That's a Manekin to you, buddy! Try to stay on brand.
― ☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link
living up to his potential of being a living, breathing, spencer's gifts mall store circa 1995
― untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link
He's also got an Endless Rant lager and IPA that I've seen on the shelves.
― nickn, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link
Finally, a dutch oven for men, who like black and prisons and stuff. pic.twitter.com/W3Vz8s8mr6— Ian Bogost (@ibogost) September 12, 2019
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 September 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link
downright kinky
― cheese canopy (map), Thursday, 12 September 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link
Would anyone recommend a current (or not, doesn't really matter) text on the role/state/'problem' of masculinity? Context: we're trying to find a coherent approach in school and I want to be up to speed with current thinking.
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Friday, 13 September 2019 09:54 (four years ago) link
Try r/inceltears
― Ramen? No thanks, I prefer them cooked (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 13 September 2019 12:04 (four years ago) link
www.ilxor.com/thisthread
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Friday, 13 September 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link
The recycled prison steel dutch oven is actually pretty cool, but in a "upcycling is fun pseudo-ethics" way and not a "ONLY THE MANLIEST POTS FOR MY INEDIBLY SPICY MAN CHILI" way. My partner, who is a lady, agrees.
― Three Word Username, Friday, 13 September 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link
This thread is basically all I need but I was after something encompassing and academic to quote from. I was being lazy; I'll go do some digging.
That incels subreddit is grim. They themselves are hell.
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Friday, 13 September 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link
Jared Yates Sexton has some essays and a book that might work for class. (He’s also doing a fireside chat with Henry Rollins about masculinity at this fall’s Chicago Humanities Festival.)
https://www.yesmagazine.org/peace-justice/white-masculinity-toxic-trauma-20190424
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 13 September 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link
I haven't read it but I would think some excerpts from the Terry Crews book might be worthwhile.
― Yerac, Friday, 13 September 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link
hmmm, for some reason I thought that book was much more recent.
― Yerac, Friday, 13 September 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link
Also for a class, there are some decent TED Talks that could cover the basics, like this one.
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 13 September 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link
https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300171211/boyhoods
― budo jeru, Friday, 13 September 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link
Thanks for the resources. I probably wasn't clear - this isn't really for the classroom (at least, not initially); it's more about trying to get a sense of the landscape and how we might tackle the gender gap in performance.
I've been reading Boys Don't Try? It's good. https://www.crcpress.com/Boys-Dont-Try-Rethinking-Masculinity-in-Schools/Pinkett-Roberts/p/book/9780815350255
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Friday, 13 September 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link
https://s.put.re/9JMRwPeK.jpghttps://s.put.re/ZEzhCDac.jpg
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 14 October 2019 23:11 (four years ago) link
think i just blew chunks
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 14 October 2019 23:28 (four years ago) link
you mean CHUNXX
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 14 October 2019 23:35 (four years ago) link
with Wild Rice and Hearty Cumin Broth
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 14 October 2019 23:36 (four years ago) link
is that actually soup or something with soup?
― kinder, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link
probably has the consistency to be eaten in a sandwich. I value this kind of flexibility.
― maffew12, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link
actually those are scented candles
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:59 (four years ago) link
― kinder, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 16:04 (four years ago) link
I think there's also a degree of Jean-Pierre Faye's horseshoe theory here where masculine-marketed foods and premium dog food curve together and begin to overlap
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link
^ swear to god I saw a dog treat ad the other day that I considered posting to this thread, but I can’t remember what product it was. Something like “vegan dog food doesn’t exist.. respect their primal urges”
― blows with the wind donors (crüt), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link
I have a 1/4 baked idea for a thinkpiece I'll never write about the meaning of each era's particular nutrient obsession and its relation to that age. There certainly seems to be something about "protein" being the current one that connects to the whole marketing of masculinity/lifting/beardcare culture.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link
Worms are an excellent source of protein. There must be some way to change the image of "eating worms" from something done on playgrounds by sniveling weaklings while bullies laugh at them, to a daring, edgy sign of fearlessness, done mostly by wilderness survival savants who also sleep in debris shelters and kill cougars with their bare hands.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link
(Meanwhile, gluten is just waiting its turn to reemerge as the Glamor Ingredient. "ok y'all hate me now but YOU'LL BE BACK!")
― Sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link
A pizza parlor here had an EXTRA GLUTEN special
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link
Whatevs, I'm still ride or die with the Irish Coffee Diet (fat, sugar, alcohol, and caffeine)
― Sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, October 15, 2019 8:59 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
my guess was hair gel
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link
https://www.pomades.com/pomps-not-dead-bacon-grease-pomade
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link
First sentence of its marketing info: "Let's face it: bacon makes everything better."
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, October 15, 2019 1:28 PM (forty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
*crickets*https://exoprotein.com/
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link
crickets are cuddly compared to worms
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link
you mean crunchy
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link
i googled this and i came up with a bunch of amsr videos
i assume it's some sort of vore fetish thing?
― Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 01:58 (four years ago) link
When bug-eating becomes mandatory due to enviro catastrophe there will be SO MANY commercials for, like, Tactical Cockroach Crunch Bars.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 02:29 (four years ago) link
Snowpiercer got there first
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 02:54 (four years ago) link
https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/9_ToyCBIe__2fEC5MPtikw--~B/Zmk9c3RyaW07aD0zODg7cHlvZmY9MDtxPTk1O3c9NzIwO3NtPTE7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/QvoDsM6o4VJyjVoJQB3kKQ--~C/Y2g9MTY4NS42Njc3NTI0NDI5OTY3O2NyPTE7Y3c9MzAwMDtkeD0wO2R5PTE2Mi44NjY0NDk1MTE0MDA2NTtmaT11bGNyb3A7O2FwcGlkPXByb2Rlc2sy/https://media.zenfs.com/en/ap.org/9f30fe46a68dc5010407db452de50587
― omar little, Saturday, 26 October 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link
love 2 add the word “tactical” to things
― brimstead, Sunday, 27 October 2019 04:49 (four years ago) link
^^^
― mookieproof, Sunday, 27 October 2019 04:59 (four years ago) link
There's a drywall-punching scene in Marriage Story; made me think of this thread.
― fetter, Friday, 20 December 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link
what kind of drywall was it?
― sarahell, Sunday, 22 December 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EM0ax0PWkAAyF-7.jpg
― mookieproof, Friday, 27 December 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link
someone at my work was unironically showing off pics of tactical baby gear and saying he'd ordered some for his forthcoming first child :/
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 27 December 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link
"jax"menbed sheets
hm
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 27 December 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link
so are these sheets that repel jizz stains?
― peloton for the painfully alone (m bison), Friday, 27 December 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link
is it for morning wood? maybe they're really thick, heavy sheets
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 27 December 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link
I'm now imagining a mattress that "senses" morning wood and kind of creates a little depression to nestle it comfortably and avoid excessive pressure.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 28 December 2019 02:46 (four years ago) link
"On top of that, a survey found that men ages 18-25 wash their sheets four times in a year, and the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics found that on average, men do 1/4th the amount of laundry as women. This fact means that these sheets are only being washed once per month. When we discovered these numbers, we realized that it meant we had to make sure our sheets have powerful anti-bacterial features, and we did just that."
― Yerac, Sunday, 29 December 2019 23:46 (four years ago) link
lol @ men ages 18–25
― 💠 (crüt), Sunday, 29 December 2019 23:54 (four years ago) link
eww
― babu frik fan account (mh), Monday, 30 December 2019 01:11 (four years ago) link
is that survey men-focused or laundry-focused: like, is it that the men ages 18-25 only wash their sheets four times a year, but that someone else occasionally or regularly washes their sheets for them ... or is it stating that the sheets of men ages 18-25 only get washed 4x a year?
― sarahell, Thursday, 16 January 2020 16:10 (four years ago) link
the latter
― mookieproof, Thursday, 16 January 2020 16:15 (four years ago) link
Men are more environmentally-friendly iirc.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 16 January 2020 16:17 (four years ago) link
I feel guilty about how often I wash my towels.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 16 January 2020 16:17 (four years ago) link
― Yerac
― sarahell
― mookieproof
i think it's maybe neither! from the ad copy that yerac cites, the survey just says that young dudes wash their own sheets 4 times a year. the ad copy goes on to combine this with a separate BLS finding that the average man (doesn't say what age) does 1/4th the laundry as the average woman. then from there they make up an extrapolated "fact": "This fact means that these sheets are only being washed once per month." that's not a fact.
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 January 2020 18:46 (four years ago) link
i think all we can say with confidence is that 18-25 guys wash their own sheets 4 times a year. some of their sheets are washed more frequently by other people, because maybe someone else in the household who does more laundry washes their sheets for them on other occasions. and we know that "on average, men do 1/4th the amount of laundry as women." but it's weird to make an assumption that women, who are doing 4 times the laundry of men, are always washing 18-25 year old dude sheets at the same time. sure, some of them do (young guys living with parents; developmentally stunted young men who have their partners do their laundry for them, etc)...
but anyway, i think all that's safe to say is that young dudes are washing their sheets 4 times a year
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 January 2020 18:50 (four years ago) link
and you know, what really bothers me about Jax sheets, other than that it sounds like a masturbation product, is that they would have been fine just citing the study that young guys only wash their own sheets 4 times a year! that's convincing enough that perhaps there is a market need for masculine sheets that will fight back against the consequences of not washing the sheets. but don't drag the BLS into this and start mixing assumptions with facts, COME ON JAX
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 January 2020 18:53 (four years ago) link
wait so are these sheets that you can cum on without having to wash them
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Thursday, 16 January 2020 18:54 (four years ago) link
yeah I was on the kickstarter trying to find out whaht masculine issues the sheets addressed and saw that. they raised ~$350k!
― Yerac, Thursday, 16 January 2020 18:54 (four years ago) link
just buy denim sheets, it's a fact that you never have to wash blue jeans
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link
with denim sheets, no more cumbersome checking of the quality and condition of your sheets! just touch any part of the sheet - has it turned dark and oily? is the fabric rigid and sticky? that's your Jax denim sheets letting you know it's time to replace the sheets with a fresh set!
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:00 (four years ago) link
reminded that washing my bedding was on the list of tasks last weekend and it still hasn't happened. thanks, thread
― babu frik fan account (mh), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:04 (four years ago) link
I am too lazy to look, but I bet someone somewhere is doing a Merino wool bed sheet that is marketed as "naturally bacteria resistant".
― beard papa, Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:36 (four years ago) link
I sleep standing up in a denim slanket anyway
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:47 (four years ago) link
did i already mention my manly idea of throwing rocks at each other for cleanliness? why take a shower when you can become stronger by enduring what does not kill you - thrown rocks that can directly remove mud from your skin, in some cases?
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:59 (four years ago) link
don't have any friends? no problem, throw rocks straight up
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:00 (four years ago) link
Just seen in my FB feed:
https://i.imgur.com/6Uc81yS.png
― Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 18:12 (four years ago) link
Some animals lived short and miserable lives to bring that product to the world.
― beard papa, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 18:42 (four years ago) link
OH it's animal meat.
― pplains, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 19:03 (four years ago) link
Jerky is the most disappointing way to consume meat imo
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 19:30 (four years ago) link
watching an NCBSN soccer stream, just saw an advert for a testosterone supplement called 'Nugenix'
the prison planet dollar huh
― imago, Sunday, 23 February 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link
idgi
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 23 February 2020 17:50 (four years ago) link
Is it endorsed by Ted Nugent?
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 23 February 2020 17:52 (four years ago) link
Pro Dog Raw
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Thursday, 19 March 2020 19:10 (four years ago) link
Those are very macho dogs.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 19 March 2020 19:44 (four years ago) link
The kind you don't bring home to mother.
― nickn, Thursday, 19 March 2020 21:39 (four years ago) link
What does the acronym BARF mean? Couldn't find it quickly on their site, and does the verb "to barf", i.e. to vomit, not exist in British English? What about the term "raw dog", i.e. to have unprotected sex?
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 20 March 2020 00:04 (four years ago) link
I looked it up and it stands for biologically appropriate raw food. There’s a website called BARFWORLD. Oh dear.
― tokyo rosemary, Friday, 20 March 2020 01:04 (four years ago) link
as long as its just a website and not a theme park
― thou shalt not covid thy neighbour's wife (darraghmac), Friday, 20 March 2020 02:00 (four years ago) link
And what a logo they have at/in BARFworld!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EThH0bcWoAMkfki.jpg
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 20 March 2020 02:02 (four years ago) link
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/spaceballs/images/1/1d/Barf.jpg
― call all destroyer, Friday, 20 March 2020 02:34 (four years ago) link
Are you ready for images of the best “soap but for MEN” product you’ve ever seen? pic.twitter.com/kVAWb57UlF— Shayna Moon, Unity Lich (@qorquiq) May 8, 2020
― j., Friday, 8 May 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link
seems like real men would refuse to use body wash, it would have to be bar soap that is putty-colored and has, like, sharp edges
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 8 May 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link
also I'm mad they were out of Gunboat Diplomacy last time I was at the store
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 8 May 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link
I kinda want to know what naval supremacy smells like. (Gun oil and salt water?) There's another even sadder product in the replies:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXgHw9mWAAECkmK.jpg
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 8 May 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link
I would have gone with "NO SAPO"
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 8 May 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link
STR8
the ONLY aftershave product guaranteed to not go near your balls
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 8 May 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link
it’s kinda annoying how target’s male toiletries section is laid out like a sharper image
― brimstead, Friday, 8 May 2020 18:08 (three years ago) link
Thick attracts thicc.
― pomenitul, Friday, 8 May 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link
Tbf these marketing campaigns are doing everyone a service by increasing the likelihood that basement dwellers will begin taking their personal hygiene seriously.
― pomenitul, Friday, 8 May 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link
my brain has been fed a different set of inputs and when I saw “gun oil” I thought of the sex lube firstdef not str8
― mh, Friday, 8 May 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link
they just need to come up with something you can add to Mountain Dew that changes it into soap after it goes flat
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 8 May 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link
Lysol?
― pomenitul, Friday, 8 May 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link
my brain has been fed a different set of inputs and when I saw “gun oil” I thought of the sex lube first
Didn't even know this product existed, but of course it does.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 8 May 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/may/09/anyone-popular-at-school-has-muscles-the-rise-of-the-ripped-teen
― pomenitul, Saturday, 9 May 2020 12:39 (three years ago) link
Black Rifle Coffee is a Veteran Owned & Operated, Premium Coffee Company. You won't find better premium coffee at a cheaper price, and we serve those who serve. Click. Buy. Drink. Enjoy.@blckriflecoffee #blackriflecoffee— Black Rifle Coffee (@blckriflecoffee) June 25, 2020
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Friday, 26 June 2020 20:57 (three years ago) link
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Friday, 26 June 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link
oops, i had burning coffee all over my man hands and i freaked out
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Friday, 26 June 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link
I have had this cof. It is not good. In so many ways.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 27 June 2020 01:51 (three years ago) link
lmao this reminds me of a guy I saw on Shark Tank doing the exact same thing ("veteran" coffee)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBROHQFyWEw
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 27 June 2020 13:05 (three years ago) link
real men drink coffee by shooting a bullet into the bottom of the mug and sucking the liquid out like it's snakebite poison
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 27 June 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link
this is not a hot take but the branding of a lot of veteran-owned businesses is real weird.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 27 June 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link
coming soon: manly masks
“People need face coverings that make them feel stylish, cool, and — yes — even manly,” a Harvard epidemiologist wrote in the Atlantic.Men, otherwise, are less inclined to wear masks. A recent study, co-authored by professors at Berkeley and the U.K.’s Middlesex University, found that men resisted for several reasons: They were less likely to believe they’d get sick with the coronavirus (they are actually more likely to get sick), and “Men more than women agree that wearing a face covering is shameful, not cool, a sign of weakness, and a stigma.”As a result of this toxic mask-ulinity, we have a whole campaign dedicated to slipping men’s faces into some sexy, sexy N95s.“Mask shaming men won’t work. Here’s what will,” read the headline of a Los Angeles Times article suggesting ways to “make masks and masculinity a better fit.”
Men, otherwise, are less inclined to wear masks. A recent study, co-authored by professors at Berkeley and the U.K.’s Middlesex University, found that men resisted for several reasons: They were less likely to believe they’d get sick with the coronavirus (they are actually more likely to get sick), and “Men more than women agree that wearing a face covering is shameful, not cool, a sign of weakness, and a stigma.”
As a result of this toxic mask-ulinity, we have a whole campaign dedicated to slipping men’s faces into some sexy, sexy N95s.
“Mask shaming men won’t work. Here’s what will,” read the headline of a Los Angeles Times article suggesting ways to “make masks and masculinity a better fit.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/realmenwearmasks-may-be-helpful-but-the-fact-that-we-need-it-is-a-shame/2020/06/27/8f372340-b7eb-11ea-aca5-ebb63d27e1ff_story.html
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 27 June 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link
toxic mask-ulinity
― If you choose too long a name, your new display name will be truncated in (Left), Saturday, 27 June 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link
must be tiring trying to be manly, knowing you’ll never be enough, hurting yourself & others to prove otherwise. the sweaty anxiety of this stuff just reeks
― If you choose too long a name, your new display name will be truncated in (Left), Saturday, 27 June 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link
*looks at you uncomfortably*
get that vulnerability away from my manliness!! it reeks of weakness!!!
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 27 June 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link
put me in a room with 99% coronavirus molecules.
i will defeat them all
IDG the "masks make me look weak" take, everyone I've seen in a mask looks tough as hell
― american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Saturday, 27 June 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link
― Boring, Maryland, Saturday, 27 June 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link
I normally bare my teeth in a gruesome death-dealing grin when I need to look tough, but the mask just covers it up and people think I'm smiling sheepishly. To make up for it I have to kick them in the nuts and give a Tarzan yodel.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Saturday, 27 June 2020 22:01 (three years ago) link
Did we ever talk about Dog Tag Brewing?https://i.imgur.com/Qsp2nNe.jpg
Which printed the name of a dead soldier on every "dead soldier"?https://i.imgur.com/U7y8QPx.jpg
― pplains, Saturday, 27 June 2020 23:48 (three years ago) link
Support the troops buurrrrrp
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 27 June 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link
All respect to my American friends but the worship of the military is repulsive to me. It's so clearly engineered to create a stream of willing volunteers. Watching a group of young Marines on leave, strutting around the terminal and snapping orders at desk staff in Honolulu airport, was a gross experience.
― assert (MatthewK), Sunday, 28 June 2020 00:55 (three years ago) link
can’t imagine any Americans here feeling remotely disrespected by that then again esby just popped in to shit all over bob dylan and randy Newman both so maybe?
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 28 June 2020 01:01 (three years ago) link
nope no respect for military OR wack boomer penis gods here :sunglasses: :irreverant:
― lumen (esby), Sunday, 28 June 2020 01:08 (three years ago) link
Ironically, there was a very strong streak of disdain for the military in the USA up to WWII. This disdain for 'the brass hats' was still endemic among enlisted men during WWII, even as the US civilian population was drifting toward a much stronger rejection of young men who were neither in the military nor doing vital war work.
The VFW was a stronghold of military worship in the Cold War, and Cold War fears drove the public toward a greater acceptance of the military as 'guardians', but the disdain of the conscript for the US military was still quite pronounced right up to the end of the Vietnam War.
Ever since conscription ended and the all-volunteer military replaced it, the jingos have steadily succeeded in making "the troops" sacrosanct. Even a lot of "the troops" now embrace this mythmaking (though not all of them by any means). Compared to most of US history, the current prestige attached to the military is an anomaly, but I don't see it ending any time soon.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 28 June 2020 01:09 (three years ago) link
You mean you want the troops to die? Probably at the hands of terrorists? It’s either that or total domination, choose your side
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Sunday, 28 June 2020 01:42 (three years ago) link
By the way, ILM, it is very disrespectful to have all these best ever polls, and the National Anthem isn’t even nominated.
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Sunday, 28 June 2020 01:44 (three years ago) link
yeah you've got a good point KM!I remember the shock at hearing airport announcements inviting service personnel to board the aircraft first - the Australian govt tried it here and the national howl of disgust shut it down pretty quick.
― assert (MatthewK), Sunday, 28 June 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link
LAX - hearing how free showers are available to the military in the Bob Hope Lounge or whatever the hell I was hearing in my jetlagged fever dreams.
― pplains, Sunday, 28 June 2020 02:01 (three years ago) link
https://www.dudeproducts.com/products/dude-wiper-1000
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link
o_O
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link
lock thread
― singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qykoo8_1Wz4
i can't listen to the audio right now, but i'm going to watch the video on mute and see if i can learn something
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link
i like how the dude wiper 1000 is designed for very masculine asshole, but why does it not make me more muscular and sexy to women as well?
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link
so it's a bidet with controls that look like a car stereo, costs $60 more than an otherwise identical bidet from Luxe
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link
That's what's known as the "insecurity tax".
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link
how about a bidet that can measure how hard and fast i piss? i need constantly updating stats on my PSI
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link
maybe an online leaderboard with my toughest guy friends too, so we can all know how hard we all pee
"third pit" possibly the most heinous euphemism for asshole i've ever heard
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link
yeah we all know the third pit is your mouth
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link
I thought it was the parietal eye?
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link
And here I thought "pissing contests" were about height, not speed or volume. Clearly what we need is a physicist trained in fluid dynamics, or perhaps we should say, a Physicist with a capital Pee.
― Willa Catheter (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link
Don't know about third, but I've heard about
I got covid tested today and I honestly... Loved it. Maybe the nose is the fourth hole— Myles Xavier (@xylesmavier) July 17, 2020
― pplains, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link
I shared that tweet with some friends and one of them agreed with it!!
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 23:36 (three years ago) link
There are people who enjoy sounding, so anything is possible.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 5 August 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link
of course there is a “wipe the troops” link. “...who are really saving our asses every day...”
― beard papa, Wednesday, 5 August 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link
so why do they do it? it is 100 percent marketing. here's the designer of the GMC Sierra HD https://t.co/8eXVnOy6VD pic.twitter.com/V5QPDQ6igH— ryan cooper (@ryanlcooper) August 7, 2020
― solo scampito (mh), Friday, 7 August 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link
From commenter XLProfessor:
"We were thinking of all those horrific scenes in movies where some truck comes bearing down on a child before cutting away," he continued, "we want to give our customers the ability to inspire that feeling."
― nickn, Friday, 7 August 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link
good find mh
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 7 August 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link
it’s just laughable, it’s just like they’re going to the ice cream shop dressed as cowboys or something
― brimstead, Friday, 7 August 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link
I think I stole it from lag∞n on twitter
― solo scampito (mh), Friday, 7 August 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link
Cobra GermSlayer anti-bac hand gel
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 7 August 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link
iirc the majority of motor vehicles sold in the United States are now trucks (Canada can't be far behind).
there is no longer such a thing as a compact truck on the market in the US, the "midsize trucks" like ford rangers or toyota tacomas are pretty fucking big (especially compared to what they looked like even in the 00s). don't think ford sells anything that isn't a crossover, truck or suv right now. ridiculous situation.
― Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Friday, 7 August 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link
Because I don't live in pickup country, I'm occasionally awestruck when I see one of those massive ram pickups, they're kind of overwhelming.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 7 August 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link
I saw an all black one yesterday that just looked like a fucking death machine
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 7 August 2020 19:07 (three years ago) link
my fav is the fash trifecta: giant truck, molon labe sticker, blue lives usa flag
― methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Friday, 7 August 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link
just kidding that setup should literally be a hate crime
these are literally everywhere where i live.
cars in general are a lot bigger now. the proportionality of most designs is just totally heinous, incoherent garbage. but death machine truck grills have got to be the ugliest. the funny thing is you look at the whole body of the truck and it's just like a bunch of huge arbitrary plastic parts with arbitrary lines and bumps and "fake bolts" glued together, it looks like it could all fall apart any second. it's lost any sense of human proportionality so it looks like one of those monster animals from the movie annihilation. it's also the truck version of the 'giant toddler' aesthetic. trucks from the past used to look convincingly masculine with so much less bulk - they looked like they were created in the context of a human world, not by a giant 3d printer. every time i see an old ford or even one of the small toyotas it gives me a good feeling. but in general the older i get the more repulsed i am by cars, car culture, the idiotic attachment that american adults have to cars, etc.
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 7 August 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link
every time i see an old ford or even one of the small toyotas it gives me a good feeling
same. actually considering getting an old ford ranger when I finally bother to get my license
― Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Friday, 7 August 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link
i was walking around recently and saw someone's 2000-ish f-150 parked in their driveway, and i was sort of shocked by how short it seemed. it's not a small truck, but it felt weird that it didn't tower over me at all.
― circles, Saturday, 8 August 2020 01:08 (three years ago) link
I haven't seen a comparison but the ford ranger seems like it's closer to the size of the old f-150
I remember my friend's dad had a probably early 90s-ish ranger and it was a convenient size. they just don't really make a practical smaller-sized pickup anymore!
― solo scampito (mh), Saturday, 8 August 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link
I used to drive a Chevy S10 for work. Now they're being crushed at monster truck rallies.
― brownie, Saturday, 8 August 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link
Just got an ad for a manly bidet, a classic in the genre of normal products made manly pic.twitter.com/TUYrNwpAGf— Tom Gara (@tomgara) August 13, 2020
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 14 August 2020 00:36 (three years ago) link
We discussed it upthread!
― Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Friday, 14 August 2020 01:00 (three years ago) link
xps - My current Colorado is almost identical in size to my old '99 F-150. Both seem smaller than my '87 F-150 but that may be more to how shitty the steering and everything else was about that truck.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 14 August 2020 01:06 (three years ago) link
I miss being able to terrify passengers by half-turning the wheel and it doing nothing.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 14 August 2020 01:07 (three years ago) link
I’m looking at pictures of the ‘98 F-150 and it seems tiny
Truck steering was so insanely loose, though. Mechanical reasons probably exist, but the ‘93 Explorer I drove for years had so much play in the steering and that was par for the course with anything deemed truck-like. I haven’t driven anything with looser steering with regularity in years. Mini vans are even pretty tight now
― solo scampito (mh), Friday, 14 August 2020 03:38 (three years ago) link
also my 2016 Colorado is a piece of shit and if anyone is considering a midsize truck buy a Toyota or Ford instead
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 14 August 2020 03:56 (three years ago) link
are men okay pic.twitter.com/DlrIUsvK86— Zeba Blay (@zblay) September 15, 2020
― jaymc, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link
the answer is no, men are not ok
but this is pretty hilarious
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eh9e37mWkAIUCM1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link
I mean, I think it carries the tongue in cheek aspect of MANLINESS far enough that maybe I'm actually ok with it?
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link
the baby isn't even hooked up to the comms. how are they going to carry out this man's orders?
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link
https://www.galvatronflashlights.com/tactical-pen-home
The Galvatron AK47 is the First USB Rechargeable Tactical Pen to hit the Market
They couldn't think of any original names, so they borrowed them from that transformer that turns into a gun and an actual gun.
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Friday, 15 January 2021 05:50 (three years ago) link
I need that all-weather pen for when I'm writin' checks in the blinding rain
― thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Friday, 15 January 2021 05:53 (three years ago) link
tactical writing
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 15 January 2021 06:06 (three years ago) link
for when I sign a mf's death warrant before blowing them away
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 15 January 2021 06:07 (three years ago) link
https://www.galvatronflashlights.com/hosted/images/df/861d81b5fe4b25ae791eb5ee7a3a20/Pen-animation-BG.gif
― All cars are bad (Euler), Friday, 15 January 2021 13:44 (three years ago) link
"everyday carry" type stuff is too funny
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 15 January 2021 13:51 (three years ago) link
Euler, I'm at work, please.
― pplains, Friday, 15 January 2021 14:18 (three years ago) link
― All cars are bad (Euler), Friday, 15 January 2021 14:28 (three years ago) link
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
― pomenitul, Friday, 15 January 2021 14:32 (three years ago) link
i don't see an escape tool that can break glass in a tactical situation
― mookieproof, Friday, 15 January 2021 14:36 (three years ago) link
optional fleshlight extension
― All cars are bad (Euler), Friday, 15 January 2021 14:39 (three years ago) link
why do none of these everyday carry top tens include sunscreen
― thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Friday, 15 January 2021 14:48 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODO0zQBPI2k
― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Friday, 15 January 2021 14:56 (three years ago) link
the promotional video is really somethinghttps://vimeo.com/333473257
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 15 January 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link
Gotta say they have the 'tactical look' down pat - all clunky black metal with knobby knurls. Everything else about that pen is pure foolishness that would only appeal to an 11 or 12 year old boy's mentality.
― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 15 January 2021 20:59 (three years ago) link
it's hard to deny the appeal of putting together emergency kits for your car or bugout bags for weather emergencies, it pushes a lot of modern buttons - soothing anxiety about an uncertain future, buying stuff (probably the real heart of the exercise), affirming your identity (which as we've discussed revolves around being competent). I don't know at what point it crosses a line. even I've put together a backpack of goodies for when I go hiking, and I won't pretend it wasn't a lot of fun deciding what I needed and getting it all together.
― thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:15 (three years ago) link
counterpoint: it's easy for me to deny the appeal of any of that, lol
― map, Friday, 15 January 2021 21:16 (three years ago) link
Part of competence is distinguishing what is useful and needed from fantasy-based frippery. Because I hike in the Pacific Northwest temperate rain forest, I often bring an umbrella if the weather is showery. It isn't a tactical umbrella with LED light and retractable sword point, as used by Navy Seals, though.
― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:23 (three years ago) link
you're talking about actual competence, I'm talking about identity and the fantasy of competence. and on a personal note, I would love a quality umbrella with a bright LED flashlight in the handle!
― thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:29 (three years ago) link
nah. unless the led light were entirely separable, every time you needed to point the beam at something, you'd be stuck choosing whether to have the umbrella or the flashlight properly positioned. if the led is entirely separable you may as well just have a separate led flashlight altogether. That is cheaper and more versatile. I have a pocket-sized one I carry that comes in handy fairly often and I don't need to carry the umbrella to have it.
― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 15 January 2021 22:08 (three years ago) link
I'm picturing a 90-degree angle flashlight in the handle so you could use the umbrella and aim the flashlight forward at the same time
― thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Friday, 15 January 2021 22:52 (three years ago) link
My buyout bag is just weed, Smirnoff, and cash
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 15 January 2021 23:11 (three years ago) link
Gah bugout
Ive had design meetings where transcripts wouldnt necessarily read too differently to the last seven-odd posts itt
― spaghetti connemara (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 January 2021 02:02 (three years ago) link
Never let a room full of people who need something brainstorm about what they need, imo.
― Canon in Deez (silby), Saturday, 16 January 2021 02:08 (three years ago) link
Nobody ever seems to consider what would actually happen to a brain in a storm, tbh
― spaghetti connemara (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 January 2021 02:14 (three years ago) link
Odd, that lightning storm seemed to vivify the brain of Frankenstein's monster.
― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Saturday, 16 January 2021 02:16 (three years ago) link
what would i need in a buyout bag. Hmmmmmmm
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 16 January 2021 02:41 (three years ago) link
I'll invoice you via email, I need money to buy a flashlight full of mace and astronaut ice cream
― thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Saturday, 16 January 2021 03:15 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/bwMVIR3.png
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 21:13 (three years ago) link
I can't remember the product that was promoted in the Super Bowl ad – something about showering in the forest – but I seriously thought it was a parody until the very end.
― pplains, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 21:16 (three years ago) link
this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDHNMqOLw_o
― pplains, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link
uh
― Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 21:21 (three years ago) link
It's a men's hygiene product that dares to admit it has nothing to offer you but a rich sense of its own comedic value.
― Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 21:41 (three years ago) link
https://64.media.tumblr.com/8809b946a88e1aa38432ecfdccceb85c/tumblr_ngc4ytwVmC1razbajo1_1280.jpg
― you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link
this... seems like a sex thing.
― cat, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 02:17 (two years ago) link
yeah
― John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 02:21 (two years ago) link
as opposed to a gender thing, that is. though there is certainly some significant gender stuff mixed in with this sex stuff, all dumped into a dog bowl with "MAN" stenciled on the side in manly prison-esque font, the prison of dehumanizing masculine expectations etc.
i kind of want one but my partner might get the wrong idea.
― cat, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 02:22 (two years ago) link
Uh-oh! A rival enters the territory...
https://i.imgur.com/jb7hKWj.jpg
― pplains, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 03:10 (two years ago) link
I thought you meant “a sex thing” in the “my mistress makes me eat out of this bowl during our sessions” sense.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 03:44 (two years ago) link
that is what i meant! is there a word for sexual activity that doesn't include the "sex" part, since it's still so often bound up with gender? aside from, like, "fucking".
"this seems like a sexual activity thing"
"this seems like a fucking thing"
"this seems like a coitus thing"
or i guess in this instance "this seems like a fetish thing" could have worked, but the question still stands because i am drawing a blank
― cat, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 07:26 (two years ago) link
My brain was not working properly last night; I thought you meant it in some "sex vs gender" way.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 11:04 (two years ago) link
It's true, a real hungry man can hold 20 ounces.
― pplains, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 12:19 (two years ago) link
xpost oic. but this is why we need another sex word, too much confusion/overlap! Orgasmic Gratification or its mellifluous portmanteau "orgrat" is what i'm threatening to use until i find something better.
"this... seems like an orgrat thing"
why yes i am a modern day shakespeare, thank you for noticing
― cat, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link
i thought you were a cat
― John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 18:12 (two years ago) link
*tries to figure out how to fold-up map again*
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 18:14 (two years ago) link
*misses free throw*
ONCE UPON A TIME, MEN ATE OUT OF THE BOWL
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 18:16 (two years ago) link
https://www.professorpincushion.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/ppc_catCostumeRenaissanceCollar_side_1920x1080_002-1.jpg
― cat, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 18:19 (two years ago) link
you don't understand, MAN is the name of my dog
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link
― John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link
man, no!no man
Absolutely dying at the concept of tactical gummy bears but the copy makes it even funnier pic.twitter.com/FQFQSl2wrJ— show me that gabagool (@mustachetoilet) May 25, 2021
when you're out on a mission to kill, and you need to be able to count on yr gummie bears
― Karl Malone, Friday, 28 May 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link
that is what i meant! is there a word for sexual activity that doesn't include the "sex" part, since it's still so often bound up with gender? aside from, like, "fucking"."this seems like a sexual activity thing""this seems like a fucking thing""this seems like a coitus thing"or i guess in this instance "this seems like a fetish thing" could have worked, but the question still stands because i am drawing a blank― cat, Wednesday, April 14, 2021 3:26 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
― cat, Wednesday, April 14, 2021 3:26 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
Gender performance, maybe? Most (all?) of the items in this thread seem to be banking on the idea that certain men will pay a premium to not consume or do anything cursed with female associations.
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Friday, 28 May 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link
xp - apparently they were anticipating a deluge of returns due to "heat shield packaging failure"
what's with all the (joke) anti-gay stuff in the comments like "Don't eat regular gummy bears like some homo!!! NO REFUNDS"? Does the world of tactical gear sales intersect with homophobia?
― worth her weight in dogecoin (Lee626), Friday, 28 May 2021 20:53 (two years ago) link
I'd be surprised if it didn't?
― Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Friday, 28 May 2021 21:08 (two years ago) link
Gummy bears are fine, gummy worms might as well be tiny soft dicks.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 28 May 2021 22:07 (two years ago) link
This brand name popped into my head one day....and I looked up in TESS and it's not trademarked:
Brobiotics
should I form the worst startup ever?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 July 2021 20:55 (two years ago) link
guys
let's talk about GUT health.
new dannon for men is specially formulated to deliver optimal gut performance in a portable, TACTICAL yogurt capsule.
― class project pat (m bison), Monday, 19 July 2021 21:06 (two years ago) link
hell yeah
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 July 2021 21:24 (two years ago) link
Meaty, manly dumps like your father used to take... where have they gone?
― Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Friday, 23 July 2021 03:42 (two years ago) link
I still make a splash
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 23 July 2021 03:57 (two years ago) link
ew
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, 23 July 2021 04:37 (two years ago) link
Ranch Water?
― brimstead, Sunday, 26 September 2021 00:42 (two years ago) link
https://www.adweek.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/ryan-bingham-lone-river-2021-652x367.jpg the camel photographer was still cooler
― brimstead, Sunday, 26 September 2021 00:43 (two years ago) link
https://www.southernliving.com/recipes/ranch-water
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 26 September 2021 01:54 (two years ago) link
dadssanityRating: 3 stars07/17/2021
Followed recipe and just couldn’t get a taste that I was happy with. It’s a shame because I had to buy all of the ingredients.
― gbx, Sunday, 26 September 2021 03:03 (two years ago) link
I've been making that drink for years, but never knew it had a name... Always just thought of it as diluted fizzy margarita. Now that I know it's called Texas Ranch Water and is consumed by real cowpokes, I feel at least 10-15% more masculine.
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Sunday, 26 September 2021 05:03 (two years ago) link
I’m not making my own ranch water
― brimstead, Sunday, 26 September 2021 06:48 (two years ago) link
Ranch water is decent. Similar to a gin rickey, which I also like
― 《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Sunday, 26 September 2021 09:07 (two years ago) link
So it’s a tequila gimlet?
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Sunday, 26 September 2021 10:03 (two years ago) link
But jim, the rickey comes from Washington, so it is inherently unamerican and effeminate and wrong for a manly man. It is, in current parlance, "cucked" (ugh). Because no one really lives there or comes from there, it doesn't count as a real place and won't ever.
Texas, and cowboys, now THAT'S real. So manly you can smell the manure on its boots. The sweat in its Stetson. The oil on its holster.
― Habemus poptimism (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 26 September 2021 11:47 (two years ago) link
a friend of mine here (not texas) has been calling that drink 'ranch water' for a long time
― gbx, Sunday, 26 September 2021 14:37 (two years ago) link
yea it’s been established that Ranch Water (TM) was not the first ranch water I apologize for reviving this thread
― brimstead, Sunday, 26 September 2021 15:24 (two years ago) link
ok let me try this again lol I’m 9 years old btwI’ve just never seen ads for… cans of *non-beer* alcoholic bevs that appeal to the Marlboro man/classic tough American cowboy thing but I guess the guys in these ads are a little cleaned up.”“It’s ok you’re still a man if you drink this sweet thing instead of beer.”
― brimstead, Sunday, 26 September 2021 23:23 (two years ago) link
in the new west, the claw is the law
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Sunday, 26 September 2021 23:24 (two years ago) link
Somebody asked for ranch water at the bar on Friday -- takes a while for trends to trickle down to the hinterlands.
― Profiles in Liquid Courage (WmC), Monday, 27 September 2021 00:59 (two years ago) link
Ranch water is great, like a margarita but not as acidic and sugary, combo of good quality agave tequila and Topo Chico means very low incidence of hangovers, excellent summer drink - A
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 September 2021 01:10 (two years ago) link
i don't know anything about ranch water but i went to a concert last weekend and this was the water available at the concessions:
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61Zia-RBy7L._SX679_PIbundle-12,TopRight,0,0_SX679SY431SH20_.jpg
i hadn't heard of it but maybe this is a well-known thing? it's a bit off from the archetypal consumer good in this thread but it's in the same genre, no?
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 27 September 2021 19:47 (two years ago) link
liquid death makes me ia to the max
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Monday, 27 September 2021 19:47 (two years ago) link
just noticed in that image it refers to the cans as "tallboys." of water. water, the source of life, that is marketed as death
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 27 September 2021 19:48 (two years ago) link
i know that it's a naive and dorky thing to point out but... you are selling water, literally the source of all life you stupid attention-addicted tattooed motherfuckers!! 🖕🖕 xp lol
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Monday, 27 September 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link
Does it say 'murder your thirst'? That's some Apprentice-contestant-level shit
― kinder, Monday, 27 September 2021 22:06 (two years ago) link
water, the source of life, that is marketed as death
It's truly awful! At least they didn't literally go with "water is death", I guess?
At least where I am, Liquid Death started popping up as a semi-common backstage thing at music venues a few years ago. The experience of actually drinking a tallboy of still water is horrifying in an almost psychedelic sense. With every sip, your brain screams at you that this is the worst beer you've ever tasted, and ime this completely precludes any feeling of "refreshment."
― swim, Monday, 27 September 2021 22:38 (two years ago) link
is 'mountain water' molecularly distinct from H2O?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 27 September 2021 23:27 (two years ago) link
presumably meant for straightedgers to fit in
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 01:12 (two years ago) link
They were handing out Liquid Death cans at the grocery store a couple of months ago - probably placebo but it tasted metallic. Can't imagine actually buying one.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 01:14 (two years ago) link
xp Always had the impression that the point of being straightedge was NOT fitting in, but that aside, the cultural profile of canned seltzer over the last several years has been a godsend for a lot of the no longer young touring musicians and stagecraft people I know who can't drink for historical and/or medical reasons.
― swim, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 01:23 (two years ago) link
it's true that the proliferation of canned seltzer water options has been very positive from my pov
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 01:26 (two years ago) link
i get this rambler "texas limestone filtered" seltzer all the time, it's good and not really marketed in a masculine way at all, cute cans.
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 01:27 (two years ago) link
The Topo Chico shortage has been very painful.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 01:31 (two years ago) link
one to watch!!
A new, vaguely tech-adjacent tea startup wants to free the beverage of its close association with femininity and hippies. "Entrepreneurs and creators and rainmakers," said one co-founder, "are going to be the ones to see through some of the stereotypes." https://t.co/s5x5ePEh3Z— Motherboard (@motherboard) November 19, 2021
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, 19 November 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link
funny, i always associate teabagging with hypermasculinity, but
― just staying (Karl Malone), Friday, 19 November 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link
Remember: the correct way to make tea is to microwave a cup of water then dunk in a torn Lipton tea bag and add some half-and-half.
― kinder, Friday, 19 November 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link
variation: dip your balls in some lukewarm milk for 16 hours to improve testosterone
― just staying (Karl Malone), Friday, 19 November 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link
What the fuck is a rainmaker now
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Friday, 19 November 2021 19:48 (two years ago) link
Also there's this place called "not the US" where everyone drinks tea
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Friday, 19 November 2021 19:49 (two years ago) link
the latest and greatest in a rich tradition of native american racism xp
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, 19 November 2021 19:51 (two years ago) link
tech-adjacent tea startup fuck me
― brimstead, Friday, 19 November 2021 20:16 (two years ago) link
'rainmaker' sounds kinda like a feminist hippie to me
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 19 November 2021 20:18 (two years ago) link
"founder" is fucking awful. People found stupid shit that fails. big fucking whoop
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 19 November 2021 20:19 (two years ago) link
is it okay to add soylent to my bro-tea?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 19 November 2021 20:21 (two years ago) link
million dollar idea: put testosterone in your tea and call it T+
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 20 November 2021 19:31 (two years ago) link
“Hey bro, want a brew?” “What kind of IPA?” “Nah breh, I’m talkin something hot” *high fives* *chest bump*
Introducing Testos-tea
― Evan, Saturday, 20 November 2021 20:21 (two years ago) link
that article made me want to barf up every cup of tea i ever had, so mission accomplished mr. dave s tea
― cookie hat, esq. (cat), Saturday, 20 November 2021 20:54 (two years ago) link
Tea-stosterone?
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 20 November 2021 23:15 (two years ago) link
tea-sticles
― koogs, Sunday, 21 November 2021 11:11 (two years ago) link
Mach-teas-mo
― popcornoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 21 November 2021 14:29 (two years ago) link
No.
Masculini-tea
― popcornoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 21 November 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link
https://f4.bcbits.com/img/0008032170_10.jpg
― emil.y, Sunday, 21 November 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link
branding isn't exactly hypermasculine
https://video-images.vice.com/_uncategorized/1637259205762-screen-shot-2021-11-18-at-125250-pm.png?resize=800:*
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 21 November 2021 19:56 (two years ago) link
article doesn't mention anything about the electric kettle issue, which is clearly the primary barrier to mass adoption of tea-drinking in the US
maybe there's a 'tech' fix for this idk
― Number None, Monday, 22 November 2021 13:00 (two years ago) link
They make tea Keurig cups, so I dunno why Americans aren't embracing this proud tradition. Maybe they're harboring some other grudge against it.
― pplains, Monday, 22 November 2021 14:23 (two years ago) link
they just need to manufacture a tea kettle that runs off a car battery or plugs into the 240v line we use for electric dryers or stoves. I am a tea drinker and I'd buy one in a second.
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 22 November 2021 15:14 (two years ago) link
I will shamefully admit I have had a tea Keurig cup
"dramatic misfire" does not begin to describe it
― mh, Monday, 22 November 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link
i always thought the deal is that coffee has more caffeine and americans want the strongest uppers available.
― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Monday, 22 November 2021 15:32 (two years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/u3g6mXh.jpg
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 22 November 2021 15:33 (two years ago) link
the "fix" is to drink a half gallon of iced tea every day in the summer
I do this, obv
― mh, Monday, 22 November 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link
In the UK there'd be an argument to say it's the other way around: Tea is tea. It's drunk by builders and roadworkers and you can't gussy it up with whipped cream and sprinkles like you can with coffee
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 22 November 2021 15:54 (two years ago) link
So disappointed that no one suggested the name High T(ea).
― Rep. Cobra Commander (R-TX) (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 November 2021 16:24 (two years ago) link
xp The US was very, very strongly anti-British up until WW1, to a degree that's unimaginable today.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 22 November 2021 16:29 (two years ago) link
The US was very, very strongly anti-British up until WW1...
...Henry James notwithstanding.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 22 November 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link
“We really want to make teas that you're going to grow with, that get better on the third cup, the 10th cup, the 30th cup.” (Editor’s note: It should be noted somewhere that high-quality bagged and loose-leaf teas are readily available to Americans in supermarkets all over the country.)
The name, Firebelly, is not a reference to the (questionable) belief that tea can help burn fat, but rather an indication of Segal’s own personal belief that tea can make you a better person.
So is 'Firebelly' supposed to connote some Iron John/men's movement kinda thing? Because that name sucks
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 22 November 2021 17:57 (two years ago) link
i reckon it’s meant to connote a “fire in the belly”, a driving purpose that cannot be doused or assuaged or turned aside, but which also calls to mind a brand of low-rent supermarket cupcakes called ticklebelly
― cookie hat, esq. (cat), Monday, 22 November 2021 19:26 (two years ago) link
i like to think of this v. srs tea tech manly man earnestly discussing his belly, and the extremely masc bellies of the unimpeachably manly men who drank tea before him
― cookie hat, esq. (cat), Monday, 22 November 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link
Amaericans have trouble with electric kettles because of their effete 110v domestic mains "power".
― feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Monday, 22 November 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link
Thought this bump was for Robert Bly's death.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Monday, 22 November 2021 19:40 (two years ago) link
jeez I was unaware when I made the Iron John reference!
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 22 November 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link
its sad he was a man
― cookie hat, esq. (cat), Monday, 22 November 2021 19:45 (two years ago) link
i currently use a crappy old pan on the stovetop to heat up water for my COFFEE, and then i wildly pour it all over my left hand as well as into the carafe of my press pot like a real fukken man.
however, for the last 9 years i had this really nice electric kettle and i will be getting one of those soon.
― just staying (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 November 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link
I just got an electric kettle a few months ago because I felt guilty using natural gas to boil water
though it's highly likely that my electricity is generated via natural gas
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 22 November 2021 19:54 (two years ago) link
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Monday, November 22, 2021 7:40 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
buh-bly
― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Monday, 22 November 2021 19:55 (two years ago) link
I love that, in most of the US, it's more masculine to drink coffee black, but in NYC, the "regular" coffee order beloved by every manly type of person (construction workers, sanitation, tradesmen, movers, police, whatever) is with whole milk and a ton of sugar.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 22 November 2021 20:13 (two years ago) link
I mean, it's probably just to make crappy bodega coffee taste better but who cares.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 22 November 2021 20:14 (two years ago) link
my electric kettle is fine
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 November 2021 20:15 (two years ago) link
I think that's everywhere and I think it's because REAL MEN don't care about being healthy and watching their weight and blood sugar and girly things like that so of course they put cream and sugar in their coffee. I frequently see blue collar men here in New England ordering their coffee that way in Dunkin Donuts
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 22 November 2021 20:58 (two years ago) link
I suspect the black coffee thing is an outdated stereotype that lingers a bit in movies.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 22 November 2021 21:00 (two years ago) link
And Italy.
― feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Monday, 22 November 2021 21:04 (two years ago) link
If people from other parts of the country want to chime in and clarify I would love that but my previous life in the Upper Midwest taught me that srs ppl drink their coffee black and if you adulterate it you don't really like coffee.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 22 November 2021 21:04 (two years ago) link
Also you are a weak and frivolous person.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 22 November 2021 21:05 (two years ago) link
my entire family drinks coffee black. most of the baristas i know drink it black
― just staying (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 November 2021 21:06 (two years ago) link
srs ppl drink their coffee black and if you adulterate it you don't really like coffee.
correct. east coast coffee snobs/barista/coffee manufacturers/coffee trainers i know pretty much line up with this
In Italy they have coffee that is worth drinking black
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 22 November 2021 21:07 (two years ago) link
if they're making their lattes or any of the millions of other things, sure. but for the coffee itself, just a "large coffee" please? that's black
― just staying (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 November 2021 21:07 (two years ago) link
if you're getting your coffee served to you by someone whose job title is barista you're not a real masculine man obv. i think this convo has drifted away from the thread title
or to put it another way, while marketing of masculinity is inextricable from concepts of both authenticity and strength, those concepts when it comes to coffee have also become too closely associated with other values and cultures that are anathema to the marketing of masculinity, like snobbery and cosmopolitanism.
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 22 November 2021 21:11 (two years ago) link
lol real men drink coffee black because it's the most unpleasant that way and masculinity requires abjuring all physical comforts.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 22 November 2021 21:13 (two years ago) link
https://campingwithgus.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/cowboydrinkingcoffee500x349.jpg
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 22 November 2021 21:23 (two years ago) link
real men drink coffee black because we're out on our farms and making fires in the morning, there's no milk or sugar to be found. it's cowboy coffee or bust. but a true cowboy might enjoy a nice latte now and then, as they collect new missions back in town and have access to an inn.
― just staying (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 November 2021 21:25 (two years ago) link
cowboy coffee or and bust
no space in my saddlebag for a baby bottle of milk
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 22 November 2021 21:35 (two years ago) link
coffee that put hair on yer chest, chili that burns a whole in your belly, and young rotgut whiskey... that's all my chuck wagon ever serves
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 22 November 2021 21:40 (two years ago) link
My grandfather used to say, "If you wanted a cup of milk and sugar, why did you ask for coffee?"
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 22 November 2021 21:45 (two years ago) link
it's almost as if what is "masculine behavior" is completely arbitrary and entirely defined by insecurity.
― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Monday, 22 November 2021 21:47 (two years ago) link
cowboy coffee just means the coffee grounds are right in the coffee instead of hot water being filtered through the grounds. then you have to settle the coffee grounds to the bottom of the pot before you can pour it into a mug and drink it without getting a mouthful of gritty grounds. it's nasty stuff that's hard to get right.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 22 November 2021 21:49 (two years ago) link
I've heard about eggshells or egg whites in cowboy coffee but never understood how that worked
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 22 November 2021 21:50 (two years ago) link
That's why cowboys have mustaches: it's a coffee filter that's built into your face.
― popcornoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 22 November 2021 21:51 (two years ago) link
whatever mustache doesn't filter will be handled with terrible directness via the intestines
― just staying (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 November 2021 22:07 (two years ago) link
this youtuber whomst is not terrible did a lovely video on this a couple weeks back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK7hl21YcsE
― cookie hat, esq. (cat), Monday, 22 November 2021 22:28 (two years ago) link
Its probably ok to drink coffee whatever way or not
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Monday, 22 November 2021 22:33 (two years ago) link
...unless it's just before an arm wrestling contest in a rural bar
― just staying (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 November 2021 22:35 (two years ago) link
where the real coffee goes down
No even then we drink coffee then too its really ok
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Monday, 22 November 2021 22:36 (two years ago) link
for example it's ok with fish skin
https://convivialsupper.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/practicalamericancookery_coffee2hall1856.jpg
― mark s, Monday, 22 November 2021 22:38 (two years ago) link
https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.29753788.4701/raf,750x1000,075,t,oatmeal_heather.jpg
― cookie hat, esq. (cat), Monday, 22 November 2021 22:45 (two years ago) link
i wish i would have seen that before knowing the fish/coffee connection! it's a cool print!
― just staying (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 November 2021 22:46 (two years ago) link
T/S: US coffee snobbery vs. UK tea snobbery
― popcornoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 22 November 2021 22:47 (two years ago) link
In line with my stance itt i refuse to take sides there
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Monday, 22 November 2021 22:47 (two years ago) link
Worked with a Mormon woman who told me how her non-Mormon dad once asked her before a day on the ranch for a thermos of black coffee with "a level spoonful of sugar" added to it.
She thought he said "eleven spoonfuls of sugar," and boy, she wonders sometimes if his reaction to that was why she joined the church.
― pplains, Monday, 22 November 2021 22:52 (two years ago) link
I read that some of the popularity of vodka/akvavit in the northern climes stems from the fact that it doesn't freeze solid, unlike tea & coffee... when you're out working in the woods
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 22 November 2021 22:58 (two years ago) link
https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/3/twin-peaks-fish-percolator-premium-cotton-pete-cooper-coffee-truman-tee-coffee-duong-ngoc-son.jpg
― nickn, Monday, 22 November 2021 23:15 (two years ago) link
Obligatory "lol hueg."
― nickn, Monday, 22 November 2021 23:16 (two years ago) link
is that huge? i guess it depends on the stylesheet. but i never have any quibbles about posting the huegs
― just staying (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 November 2021 23:44 (two years ago) link
Bigger than it needs to be to get the image across. I think ILX compresses really big images.
― nickn, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:56 (two years ago) link
When the guy offered to sell me some fishscale I wasn't expecting burned coffee
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:58 (two years ago) link
Anyway, TIL that isinglass was used to clear coffee (I knew it was used to clear beer) and maybe that had something to do with Lynch putting a fish in the percolator in Twin Peaks?
― nickn, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 00:59 (two years ago) link
TIL I learned that isinglass is a fish byproduct when I vaguely thought it was sheets of mica
― popcornoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 01:26 (two years ago) link
ok quick searching indicates that I am not the first person to be confused by this, because the terms are pretty muddled already
Anyway the only time it occurs in my headspace is in Oklahoma!, where the surrey with the fringe on top has isinglass curtains
― popcornoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 01:30 (two years ago) link
The Vice article is balderdash, but it is somewhat interesting that the founder feels the need to frame his business as a 21st century tech startup, when in fact it sounds like a specialty tea mail order company, which is fairly 19th century. And the dude is cynically honest when he admits that's how you drum up investors.
Pre-pandemic, Haagen Daz had a bunch of posters up in the downtown San Francisco BART station about how they were really a 'startup', even though it was founded in 1960
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 01:33 (two years ago) link
I feel like in orbit is otm in the “real men in upper midwest” etc like coffee black but those people have adapted and changed what coffee means, like a standard coffee then was convenience store, work coffee pot, diner, etcyou hand my dad even like a starbucks black coffee (ignoring the over-roasted whatever) they’re like whoa wtfI feel like “real” even meaning chain coffee was just a burst beyond standard american coffee overall and some just grimaced and said “this is man coffee now” and others just switched to drinking monster or w/e
― mh, Thursday, 25 November 2021 04:27 (two years ago) link
on the other hand I would mainline the shittiest work drip coffee for some years. something with a pouch you put in the coffee maker instead of the filter/grounds. finally, they upgraded.. to a folger’s pouch. my last days being regularly in the office I joined aero press club *shrug*
― mh, Thursday, 25 November 2021 04:30 (two years ago) link
― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Monday, November 22, 2021 4:47 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
So it occurred to me that wrt actual cowboys it probably wasn't totally arbitrary or defined by insecurity, but was actually a necessity of the trail, i.e you literally couldn't have milk (or many other comforts/luxuries) so you had to be "tough" in the sense of being able to live without them and endure difficult conditions. But most American masculinity is like 3-5 steps removed from being an actual cowboy by now. P sure the air conditioning in that new Ram TRX works just fine, and the milk at the gas mart is free with the coffee.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 25 November 2021 04:32 (two years ago) link
most actual cowboys were latino or black
― mh, Thursday, 25 November 2021 04:35 (two years ago) link
spanish and mexican vaqueros were the original cowboys. norte americanos just copied their methods.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 25 November 2021 04:40 (two years ago) link
double post
― mh, Thursday, 25 November 2021 04:42 (two years ago) link
makes me sick to my stomach tbh
haters will say it's* fakehttps://t.co/6zw1eCC6koit: dog balls— Kevin H Jingle Bell 🔔🔔🔔 (@KevinHBell) December 29, 2021
― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Wednesday, 29 December 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link
The clunking problemThere was a problem, however. The original Neuticles were made of a hard plastic-like material. Customers complained their dogs made a “clunking” sound when they walked or sat down. “That was an issue that we endured for three years until some genius, God bless him wherever he was, invented solid silicone,” Miller says.
There was a problem, however. The original Neuticles were made of a hard plastic-like material. Customers complained their dogs made a “clunking” sound when they walked or sat down. “That was an issue that we endured for three years until some genius, God bless him wherever he was, invented solid silicone,” Miller says.
― talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Wednesday, 29 December 2021 20:24 (two years ago) link
DJP 1973-2021Cause of death: involuntarily ejecting lungs through mouth do to sudden, uncontrollable guffawing
― talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Wednesday, 29 December 2021 20:25 (two years ago) link
*due
don't mind me, just correcting typos from the afterlife
― talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Wednesday, 29 December 2021 20:26 (two years ago) link
― calzino, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 20:31 (two years ago) link
taking your poor dog's troublemakers away and replacing them clanking balls of plastic - that is just hideous
― calzino, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 20:33 (two years ago) link
When I asked for my lab to have big ol meaty clackers I didn't mean actual clackers.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 29 December 2021 20:33 (two years ago) link
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61r6NGTTBvL._AC_SX425_.jpg
imagine going round to someone's house and asking what that clunking noise is and them replying "oh that's just my dog's ersatz testicles"
― soref, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 20:37 (two years ago) link
There is a human version of this, for those that have lost balls to cancer.
― nickn, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 20:44 (two years ago) link
Miller went ahead and had Buck neutered, though he hated putting the puppy through the surgery. Afterward, Buck went to clean himself. “He loved to do that. The slurping noise that was so freaking obnoxious,” Miller says, mimicking a slurping hound sound. He’s convinced Buck noticed something was missing, and the dog looked back up at his master. “He was telling me, ‘They’re gone. What happened?’”
what happened? i am confused
― the hard ones, the clackers (DJP), Wednesday, 29 December 2021 20:47 (two years ago) link
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/692/586/2e0.gif
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 29 December 2021 20:52 (two years ago) link
imagine going round to someone's house and asking what that clunking noise is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs-2SRBxBI8
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Thursday, 30 December 2021 01:15 (two years ago) link
wha happen?!imagining the fred willard dog riffing about his clackers every time he sits down
― mh, Thursday, 30 December 2021 05:01 (two years ago) link
😬
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLLjfdIVQAIOuGW?format=jpg&name=small
― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 20:11 (two years ago) link
Is that a glowing hot horseshoe on your jeans or are you just happy to buy everyday staples, trusted Filson standards?
― peace, man, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 20:28 (two years ago) link
Everyday staples, how do they work?
― nickn, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 21:44 (two years ago) link
can I admit here that I like the Duluth Trading Company ads
― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 21:47 (two years ago) link
well, you are in the right geographic region
― mh, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 21:49 (two years ago) link
i buy two nice workwear things and become saturated with 15 dipshit dude brand identities
― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 21:53 (two years ago) link
I miss the workwear/big&tall clothing store that used to be here. Now it's all hipster shops that have flannel shirts and axe sharpening services
― mh, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 21:54 (two years ago) link
I wound up buying two things from Taylor Stitch last year and they were good (a flannel and a sweater), would buy from them again.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 February 2022 04:18 (two years ago) link
try not to let their recently acquired fashionability ruin intrinsically good and useful things for you. fashions pass on to other things, but intrinsic value won't.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 10 February 2022 04:28 (two years ago) link
I promise you are not prepared for Tucker's latest montage pic.twitter.com/8tdvYTW2cn— nikki mccann ramírez (@NikkiMcR) April 16, 2022
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 17 April 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link
most of you have probably already seen this, or seen reference to it in a little box on the side of your screen as you were scrolling somewhere else.
my question is, what is this?!
https://i.imgur.com/qag6FFh.png
it's a central image in the clip - is that supposed to be a guy receiving some sort of laser upgrade to his genitals? or is he supposed to be fucking the concept of computers?
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 17 April 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link
and more importantly, where can i take a free test to check to see if i could benefit from genital enhancement?
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 17 April 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link
Ball Tanning
We also now know what’s going on with the guy on the rock exposing his private parts to a wash of red light. He was tanning his balls. Carlson endorsed the practice in the special as one of several ways men can return themselves to testosterone-fueled dominance, which the special argues is necessary for society to “reestablish order” after collapse..
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 18 April 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link
a Swanson heir private school educated coastal fop making 10 mil a year to tell the decent folk in the heartland that masculinity is on the endangered list is just the absolute funniest shit to me
― OG Bob Sacamano (will), Monday, 18 April 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link
That's not real, is it?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 18 April 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link
which thing? because holy shit, i'll believe pretty much anything these days
― Karl Malone, Monday, 18 April 2022 22:14 (one year ago) link
The ball tanning? It even has a rad name: "bromeopathic therapy"
Putting the 'bro' back in bromeopathy
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 18 April 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link
The promo clip. That's gotta be fake.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 18 April 2022 22:19 (one year ago) link
No, pretty sure it's real
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 18 April 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link
One of my friends got his taint scrubbed at a Korean spa. He still talks about it.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 18 April 2022 22:22 (one year ago) link
dudes rock
― frogbs, Monday, 18 April 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link
yeah, that's a real clip. that's the most watched tv news guy. it's fucking crazy. there are all these people out there who watch this guy who tells them to tan their balls
― Karl Malone, Monday, 18 April 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link
Well, Trump likes to rock some "YMCA" out on the stump, this is just a campier extension of that vibe
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 18 April 2022 22:32 (one year ago) link
A manly ship, full of manly men
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 18 April 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link
Maybe hovering your balls over a heating element until they're the color and texture of an NFL football feels good! There's only one way to know for sure. (You first.)
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 18 April 2022 22:48 (one year ago) link
Shailene Woodley already trademarked genital tanning, dude’s just a copycat.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 18 April 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link
yeah this exposing your genitals to the sun or w/e is pretty old now, all the women’s “health” weirdos went through it and I would guess it’s now trickled through the yoga men and athletes married to “health” people to the beard oil set all the way to the macho gun men set and now to the boring conservative assholes
― mh, Monday, 18 April 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link
the journey of a raindrop, of tanning your balls
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 18 April 2022 23:30 (one year ago) link
xp the GOOP to GOP pipeline
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 18 April 2022 23:59 (one year ago) link
Freikörperkultur
Not intrinsically fascist, but a fellow traveler for a long time.
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link
i cannot speak 4 ballz but one thing i will state with absolute conviction is that sunning yr gooch feels 1000% nice, loathsome preppy fartsniffing grifter otm
― Toxoplasmosis Jones (cat), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link
naturism / nudism was a good idea, gotta hand it to em ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link
Yeah but the sun is 100% free, I'm sure Tucks is somehow profiting off the red light balls ray
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link
Good piece by Jared Yates Sexton about Tucker, ball-sunning, and the larger issues.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link
just a thought, but i can't imagine the sun (and air) being 100% free for much longer. i'm not sure how it's lasted this long without someone or something systematically taking a cut
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link
this is why we have to solar charge our genitals now, while there’s still time!
― Toxoplasmosis Jones (cat), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link
i didn't even think about that
i am going to cut out the middle man of Big Ball Tans and just press my genitalia up against the south-facing window
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link
Bronze your balls with this one weird trick
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link
i imagine tanning the balls and then testing for testosterone, shortly afterward
a muffled "fuck YEAH!" is heard from a bathroom down the hall
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link
i think i might have the boys over this weekend and tan our balls together, watch some jack reacher
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link
Paint your asses blue and watch Vikings
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link
Just clicked on this thread so sorry so late but, legit lol at:
the GOOP to GOP pipeline
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, April 18, 2022 11:59 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:49 (one year ago) link
there’s a bizarre pipeline from “this seems vaguely forbidden but it feels good!” to “this is knowledge made esoteric by the establishment” that is tiresome
like idk dudes maybe there are reasons. sun your region if you want, just don’t get skin cancer. kind of wish a lot of them would get into auto-erotic asphyxiation to own the libs and be bad at it
― mh, Thursday, 21 April 2022 04:22 (one year ago) link
to own the conservatives, i will keep my balls cold, shriveled, and damp, hidden away from the light. those are the traditional values for me
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 April 2022 14:44 (one year ago) link
I’m certainly not going to ask, but I do wonder what goes through the brains of my parents when they watch this insane shit. They were always super conservative, but at least in the 80s-90s they could at least recognize that 98% of televangelists were con artists (carve-out for the unimpeachable Billy Graham, which tbh might have been the greatest grifts of all). And to me this is just an updated, (somewhat) secularized, and admittedly a much better produced media experience. I’m guessing 25 years of the Fox brain liquifier and advanced age has made them much softer targets.
― OG Bob Sacamano (will), Thursday, 21 April 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link
not that my 73 yo dad is going to tan his balls, but they probably don’t blink and perhaps even nod along gravely when this horseshit come blaring out of the teevee screen
― OG Bob Sacamano (will), Thursday, 21 April 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link
It's just another manifestation of the hardening of tribal divisions. Liberals and conservatives both use insider language. Media opportunists like Tucker Carlson happily elect themselves as the interpreters to the conservative tribe of what liberals mean when they say things like "testosterone poisoning" or "white privilege", which always happens to be the most scurrilous possible interpretation, like "all men are craven criminals" or "they thirst to drink the blood of white people".
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 21 April 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link
Many conservatives have gotten the impression that liberals believe there is something faintly disreputable about being white, cis, straight, and male. The more of those boxes you check, the more you are expected to "check your privilege". Whether true or not, that makes it pretty easy to score points by unapologetically embracing those attributes.
― o. nate, Thursday, 21 April 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link
It's well past the point of "they think I'm faintly disreputable for being a straight white man and I resent that". Much of the rhetoric now is that liberals are pure evil, servants of Satan, lying serpents who want to turn us all into slaves of the state and practice perversions on our children.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 21 April 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link
Well, there's probably a larger segment that agrees with the first statement and a smaller segment that agrees with the second. Trump was a master of dropping enough hints to keep the fringe fired up but not enough to offend the moderates whose votes he needed to keep.
― o. nate, Thursday, 21 April 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link
Trump was a master of dropping enough hints to keep the fringe fired up but not enough to offend the moderates whose votes he needed to keep.
Considering the popular vote margins by which he lost, I don't think this is true.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 21 April 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link
Well, 47% of the popular vote is still a lot of moderates, I would submit. There aren't that many wackos, even in the US.
― o. nate, Thursday, 21 April 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link
I would say the majority of people who voted for him just kind of shrugged or wrote off the more absurd things
Winning elections is more about reminding consistent votes to show up, and getting as many types of people who don't regularly vote fired up about something to get them to the polls. The former group just ignores a fair amount of those theatrics, or justifies their vote because they're loyal to a party
― mh, Thursday, 21 April 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link
There's a Christian conference "for men" in Missouri and it's just as cringe as you'd imagine. Tickets for the "Stronger Men's Conference" are $119 and Josh Hawley is one of the guest speakers. pic.twitter.com/VtQCUCo3e5— Fifty Shades of Whey (@davenewworld_2) April 30, 2022
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 30 April 2022 22:49 (one year ago) link
righteous gemstones is real
― mh, Sunday, 1 May 2022 03:10 (one year ago) link
that show is a documentary with dramatization
― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 1 May 2022 14:00 (one year ago) link
Is Josh Hawley driving the truck?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 1 May 2022 18:13 (one year ago) link
and more importantly, where can i take a free test to check to see if i could benefit from genital enhancement?― Karl Malone
― Karl Malone
karl i have an answer for you but it may perhaps not be the answer you were looking for
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 2 May 2022 05:11 (one year ago) link
So Karl... how was the conference?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 2 May 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link
new vanguard for the intersection of masculinity and profit: limb lengthening surgery
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/elaminabdelmahmoud/limb-lengthening-surgery-height-stigma-short-kings
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 2 May 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/Oo9PMhB.jpg
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 May 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link
(somehow, tucker carlson only comes up as the 14th result in my google image search for "tan balls". more proof that google image search is a sad shadow of what it once was)
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 May 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link
however, i guess it did lead me to My Tanned Balls University?
https://i.imgur.com/I6FqSlH.png
shoutout to the class of '92! i bet they have a lot to talk about at the reunions. "so, todd, i hate to ask the obvious question, but...how are those balls??"
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 May 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link
are you saying google shadow banned tanned balls?
― rob, Monday, 2 May 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link
listen, i'm not saying anything, i'm just asking questions
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 May 2022 20:17 (one year ago) link
and many people have been asking the same questions as well
new vanguard for the intersection of masculinity and profit: limb lengthening surgeryhttps://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/elaminabdelmahmoud/limb-lengthening-surgery-height-stigma-short-kings― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel)
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel)
all technology that benefits trans people was developed for the benefit of cis people first
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 2 May 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link
Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley is writing a book titled ‘Manhood: The Masculine Virtues Americans Need.’ Read more: https://t.co/g5ch7tMoV4 pic.twitter.com/AUB8NTOvYT— The Kansas City Star (@KCStar) July 28, 2022
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 28 July 2022 22:37 (one year ago) link
Asking Josh Hawley about manhood is like asking a donkey to play the piano.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 July 2022 22:41 (one year ago) link
Josh Hawley's manhood goes on sale next May.
― nickn, Thursday, 28 July 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link
But is anyone buying?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 July 2022 22:52 (one year ago) link
Josh Hawley's "manhood" goes on sale next May
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 28 July 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link
When I think masculinity I think "Ivy Leaguer whose bowtie would spin around if he saw an ankle"
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 28 July 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link
if we marxists can cancel Xmas, surely we can cancel his manhood
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 28 July 2022 23:59 (one year ago) link
whatever happened with Tucker's 'War on Men' special? I remember the laughingstock promos, but did anyone actually watch the thing?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 29 July 2022 00:03 (one year ago) link
Men and Christmas got together and beat the commies back!
― nickn, Friday, 29 July 2022 00:16 (one year ago) link
babe, i don't think we should try counseling. it's a waste of time. it's gonna take too long
so i've been on realmanrevolution.com the last few days and i have a different idea i'd like to try...
https://i.imgur.com/fF5cpoN.png
― Karl Malone, Friday, 23 September 2022 22:31 (one year ago) link
i commented "that photo is from right after he says the words "realmanrevolution.com" out loud"
HA! take THAT real men
― Karl Malone, Friday, 23 September 2022 22:32 (one year ago) link
Awesome; my buy-back-in has been feeling a little left out recently.
― kinder, Friday, 23 September 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link
I have been looking for tools to help my wife see that she does have some blame.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 23 September 2022 22:38 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPmBXP33xCQ
― brimstead, Friday, 23 September 2022 22:39 (one year ago) link
I want realmanrevolution to collab with the TikTok couple who do dances while talking about the husband’s porn addiction. All the insanity that once remained behind closed doors out for us to behold.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 24 September 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link
Tucker’s new special ‘The End of Men’ features tips from ‘Bro-Scientists’ on how to restore manhood: Raw eggs, sleep on floor, cold showers, and testicle tanning, among other things. pic.twitter.com/YkIf2cyjed— Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 (@RonFilipkowski) October 5, 2022
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link
anyone who watches his show and doesn't immediately realize what a huge mistake they made deserves to believe him
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link
Didn't that 'special' air awhile ago?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link
my specials need to air awhile if i wanna be a real man amirite
sorry
― ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link
Men are such cocksuckers aren't they? You don't have to answer that. It's true. They're scared. Their dicks get limp when confronted by a woman of obvious power and what do they do about it? Call them witches, burn them, torture them, until every woman is afraid. Afraid of herself... afraid of men... and all for what? Fear of losing their hard-on.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 20:35 (one year ago) link
you don't understand. there is a revolutionary new technique in tanning your balls, since the last one came out. a new study has come out, new research. it all points in the same direction. you must tan your balls
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 20:40 (one year ago) link
it's not normal for them to not be as tanned as say, your tanned, chiseled abs
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfX48CTVUAESWkF?format=jpg&name=small
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link
the fuck is a 'Zaddy'?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 19:19 (one year ago) link
Beardsturbation
https://livebearded.com/
― | (Latham Green), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link
why are male grooming products always some shade of brown/black/grey? why do they all smell like turpentine? do men hate pretty colours and nice smells?
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:12 (one year ago) link
speaking of which, Randy Quaid should be playing Karl Marx these days
https://iv1.lisimg.com/image/24779376/681full-randy-quaid.jpg
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:25 (one year ago) link
xpost have you smelled most men? a lot of them do seem to enjoy smelling like a combination of mildew, mahogany, and onion rings
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:29 (one year ago) link
not most of them, but enough to get the point, yes
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link
personally I'm more attracted to men who smell like flowers
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:37 (one year ago) link
"attracting thirsty cuties in line for organic lemonade" is a scene from my worst nightmare, which would obviously take place at a farmer's market
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link
the only scents i catch lately that are appealing are like really warm herbalish sweet patchoulis, i think i've only encountered women wearing them.
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link
“EPIC FIT” like you’re out slaying grendel in these farmer’s market shorts
― I am what they call a (cat), Thursday, 20 October 2022 07:07 (one year ago) link
Beards. I am growing an AMish beard. What does it do for me? Will it make me feel any different? Does it change me to have a scarglemuff-face?Am I more A MAN with a beard and is that a good thing? (Thank God this is not facebook or that comment would have gotten me in fb jail)
― | (Latham Green), Thursday, 20 October 2022 12:37 (one year ago) link
a pharaoh beard grants immortality iirc
maybe amish beard grants barn raising skillz? pls tell us if you can raise a barn after establishing the full amish.
― I am what they call a (cat), Thursday, 20 October 2022 12:59 (one year ago) link
is the beard the phallus of the face?
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 20 October 2022 13:40 (one year ago) link
Beards are reactionary. Shaving is praxis.
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 20 October 2022 14:26 (one year ago) link
"is the beard the phallus of the face?" Not unless the pubic frump is the beard of the pubic mountain!
― | (Latham Green), Thursday, 20 October 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link
I hate having to shave - not for the way it looks, but the way it feels after 3 days of growth.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 20 October 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link
beards are reactionary *or* revolutionary - bearded moderates are phonies
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 20 October 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link
Halfway, interesting.
I feel like I have been in a 35-year-long cycle of violence with my face. I hate shaving, yes, but I also having itchy scraggly unpleasant facial hair that abrades my wife.
Further, I don't like the way my beard grows. It isn't vigorous or consistent. I get a mustache and goatee and sideburny things pretty quickly, but my cheeks and jawline remain patchy and sparse. Because I don't like the look of the goatee (unflattering, plus possible shady GenX cultural associations), my choices are a Don Johnson-style permastubble, or shaving. It is a cruel trick of fate.
― unawarewolf (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 20 October 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link
but the way it feels after 3 days of growth.
I do it in the shower every morning, never have to suffer with this unless I'm camping/road tripping
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 20 October 2022 16:34 (one year ago) link
i hate having hair perpetually grow on my face. i'm also trapped in a horrible cycle with it. i get fed up, shave it all, and then let it grow for a couple weeks so it's in that really uncomfortable zone where people aren't sure if your life has gone wrong (it has) or if you're just being really lazy (i am) or if you're trying to go for a "beard" (sometimes i am, sort of).
i like the andy the grasshopper method of shaving in the shower every morning, but unfortunately *sad violin begins to play*, unfortunately, i just really love to take afternoon baths
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 20 October 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link
that really uncomfortable zone where people aren't sure
Richard Ford described this facial phase as 'looking like a wretched sex offender'
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 20 October 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link
And I use an electric shaver after trying a straight razor, so shower shaving is out.
I've got dark (now greying) hair but red (now white) facial hair, so even if I could stand to grow it for a few weeks, it would take much longer to look like a beard and make me look like I'm in my 70s anyway.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 20 October 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link
xp i call the top part of it the "teenstache"
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 20 October 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link
No other great apes have to deal with moustache trouble like us. Only beards.
Yet Munkees...https://i.imgur.com/h6VKF.jpg
― | (Latham Green), Thursday, 20 October 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link
DIABEETUS
― blissfully unawarewolf (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 20 October 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgUr-DjXEAItiy1.jpg
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 30 October 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/tQGJHv4.jpg
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 13 November 2023 08:27 (four months ago) link
― flopson, Monday, 13 November 2023 08:30 (four months ago) link
The Gandalf™
there are some anti-abortion billboards around here that say "REAL MEN LOVE BABIES". i have thoughts. lots of them. not sure if i'll be able to get them in writing. too many thoughts.
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 13 November 2023 14:35 (four months ago) link
I didn't see the movies, but I don't remember a Mrs. Gandalf...
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 13 November 2023 15:06 (four months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/8fsN4ff.jpg
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 13 November 2023 15:42 (four months ago) link
https://www.benchmade.com/products/4010-cstm?
Got an ad for this today, I like the new cleaver-y blade trend for chef's knifes but this is so tacticool
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0574/8041/3232/files/STATION_KNIFE_02A_768x.png
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 24 November 2023 10:37 (four months ago) link
Perfect for chopping carrots or doing wetwork with Seal Team 6.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 24 November 2023 10:38 (four months ago) link
so if marketing cooking equipment as extreme tactical military cowboy survival shit gets men to do more cooking - how do we get them to do more cleaning? light saber mops?
― Left, Friday, 24 November 2023 10:57 (four months ago) link
it won't, of course, get men to do more cooking; it'll just get them to buy more shit.
― Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 24 November 2023 15:32 (four months ago) link
Looking at it again I really like that blade shape (and will have to look around for a non-DEVGRU approved option) but the bolster looks all wrong for properly choking up on the knife.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 24 November 2023 22:43 (four months ago) link
Hee https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de-Yylorsow
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2023 23:12 (three months ago) link
....i'll take the whip
what? no, no, i look like a woman but i'm actually (whispers) _transgender_
no i mean a trans _woman_, a transgender _woman_
what? no look "trans woman" doesn't mean i was afab and transitioned to being a man...
AFAB. AY-FAHB. Not ACAB. Assigned female at birth. Although also ACAB.
Let's just say yes. Yes I have a penis. If I tell you I have a penis, can I have that whip?
Look. Just... give me the whip. I'll... I'll give you the idol. You give me the whip. OK?
Um. Idol. Idol. Uh... I have a CD of Rebel Yell. Does that count? It plays fine, I swear. Don't worry about the scratches. And! It comes with an obi!
...sure. That's "Obi" as in "Obi-wan".
― Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 1 December 2023 23:31 (three months ago) link
Here you go, manly man-type men, Christmas is sorted.
https://www.beautifuldeer.com/products/tactical-christmas-stocking-2?variant=113484&fbclid=IwAR3L4OKB9f_DoOE3U_MlRqPQJaznw4f4CI5Vkme2sxeHk1l6jH3saCQxJ3U_aem_AUBkpF_6NnVzu1PMyRtXWZbHjKDUaK6pSoew9w8VgW9VuLPprwH0zbHmuFJ-c7rXOqzL91RSbzdw2yVFmmcA9yWt
― ; Powell (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 4 December 2023 15:06 (three months ago) link
my axe has a smaller, sharper axe hidden in the blade
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 4 December 2023 15:52 (three months ago) link
Axe-ception
― ; Powell (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 4 December 2023 16:45 (three months ago) link