HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

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Just been picked up for a first season.

I don't know anything about this but the fantasy genre is expensive and so 2k3 really isn't it?

ANTI-SPOILER REQUEST: Oh, and should we throw down some ground rules if people are going to be discussing this week-by-week? i.e. if you've read the books don't discuss anything further than where we are, but discussion of any differences in the TV show and the books from what we've seen is fine. ― Gukbe, Saturday, April 16, 2011 4:51 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

It will for this nerd!

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

fwiw every show HBO has is just for nerds but everyone else watches them anyway

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

this might be dope

carne asada, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

are the books good?

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

YES

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

also: Sean Bean as Eddard Stark

FUCK YES

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

'good if you're a fan of the fantasy genre and are cool with the Dragonlance series' or 'good' in the general sense.

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

GOOD GOOD

The other side of genetic power today (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

HAVE YOU LEARNED NOTHING FROM ILX

The other side of genetic power today (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

did a search for 'Game of Thrones' to see if this show was already mentioned, and saw nothing about it or the books so...no?

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

REALLY GOOD GOOD

this nerd is v v v v excited

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

whoops. just searched 'game of thrones'. i actually wikipediaed this ages ago when the pilot was first announced. it's coming back to me.

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

This will be awesome. I gave up on the books after the first two, but would still like to see it on teevee.

crazy ass between (askance johnson), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Third book is probably the best.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'd agree with that

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

ok so what's going to happen when this show becomes wildly successful and 4 years from now they run out of god damn source material

did you mean: fart blasters? (nickalicious), Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

tbh if they've any sense they'll get to the end of book four about two and a half seasons in

thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

also: 'they will come up with their own ending, more quickly and as validly as george r r martin manages to come up with his'

thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

amazing that its been 4 or 5 years since i was really into these books and the next one's still not out...dude isn't gonna finish the series is he :(

it's definitely good tv series material though if they're willing to run it out long enough and don't try to cram each book into a single season (the 3rd book alone is like as long as the entire lord of the rings iirc)

ciderpress, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

you think they ought to make it longer? u mad

thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

not necessarily make it longer, just not do 1 book = 1 season when the books are of varying length and plot complexity (4th book could be cut down by a ton for example to make room for more stuff from the 3rd book)

ciderpress, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

They could just do more episodes for the season w/ the 3rd book. I don't see how they could split it up though.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 27 March 2010 17:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Gobbled up all the books on the recommendation of ILXors. I'm looking forward to the HBO show, but mostly I just want the new book! And then I guess there are two MORE of these books that he has to write, in-between blogging about the Jets and going to fantasy conventions? Sigh...

schwantz, Saturday, 27 March 2010 21:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

expected to air around this time next year, alongside the second season of Treme.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

Can't wait for the crossover episode.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MophfvUlfI

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

1 book = 1 season makes total sense

they can make that work

delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

also hbo shows arent always 1 season = 1 year

sopranos took long breaks

delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

Never read the books, but pretty keen on watching this.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

what is the point of this if the dude won't even finish the books???? Goddamn stop re-writing them already!!!

ears are wounds, Sunday, 20 June 2010 10:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

also hbo shows arent always 1 season = 1 year

sopranos took long breaks

― delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, June 19, 2010 7:50 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

name one HBO show besides Sopranos that didn't/doesn't do a new season every year

fantast (ico) (some dude), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

actually, I'll name another, Curb Your Enthusiasm, but i think that's it

fantast (ico) (some dude), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Wire had a significant gap between seasons 3 and 4, but that was partly because they weren't sure if they were going to renew it.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

at this point, I am wondering if it might not be better if some talented cable TV writers finished this thing for him. I am losing faith that he has any idea where he is going with these books.

richie aprile (rockapads), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

We should start bitching about the BSG/Lost style finalefail.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

Turns out Tyrion is Jesus.

schwantz, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

big love took a break right?

ian, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

If it hasn't it needs to.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Carcetti is Littlefinger

That character means nothing to me obv.

orakle-krake (Gukbe), Monday, 12 July 2010 23:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

FUCK YEAH THAT IS BRILLIANT!!!!!

hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 July 2010 23:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah, that is good casting

richie aprile (rockapads), Monday, 12 July 2010 23:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

ditto

Really looking forward to this!

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 02:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

more teasing

a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Monday, 13 September 2010 06:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

I hope this starts a trend of classy TV fantasy adaptations. Someone should do Perdido Street Station (though would be fucking expensive). Do these books have monsters and magic and shit, or is it just guys fighting with swords?

rhythm fixated member (chap), Monday, 13 September 2010 15:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

They have dragons and undead.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 13 September 2010 16:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

only in the first and last episodes of this season though, that saves you some money right there

thomp, Monday, 13 September 2010 16:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

perdido street station feels basically like a miniseries already! which is unfortunate in that the other bas-lag stuff wouldn't really work as further series of.

thomp, Monday, 13 September 2010 16:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Exclusive EW pics

Martin has penned the 8th episode.

Also EW On the Set

There's a new language or something that's better than Klingon it says.

Gukbe, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGuIhhyNX-o
Looks nice and wintry

Number None, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 01:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

Wasn't the guy in the first scene of the trailer also in the Lord of the Ring movies? I guess all "serious" fantasy movies/series now have to look kinda murky with muted colours, since LotR did that. Will anyone make a colourful fantasy movie anymore?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 10:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah thats sean bean... ive been reading the first book and im not a fantasy guy at all but its p. good... a lot of the early parts of the story take place in a wintery shithole, which limits your color choices... plus its kind of 'gritty' fantasy and they wanna convey that style/mood...

lotr movies were pretty colorful imo, like that part where they're in elfburg and the dwarf goes AND U HAVE MY AXE... lots of stuff actually... its just the color palette changes depending on context... i mean what do you want dude, rainbows over mount doom..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipr-wS5iBv0 (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 10:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

Well, not necessarily, of course it depends on the story... It's just that every recent live action fantasy seems to have had a similar muted colour palette as LotR, as if gritty fantasy was suddenly the only choice. For example, based on the trailer the Avatar The Las

Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

Well, not necessarily, of course it depends on the story... It's just that every recent live action fantasy seems to have had a similar muted colour palette as LotR, as if gritty fantasy was suddenly the only choice. For example, based on the trailer the Avatar The Last Airbender movie has the same kind of look even though the source material is actually quite colourful and fun.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

have you read the books? if there is one story that needs to look "gritty", it's this one.

get off my lawn (rockapads), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

So is each season going to be one book?

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

God, I hope not. To me the best way to do it would be to break it down and rearrange in a linear timeline. Jump around between characters, like any good television drama with a ton of characters tends to do.

get off my lawn (rockapads), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's just that every recent live action fantasy seems to have had a similar muted colour palette as LotR, as if gritty fantasy was suddenly the only choice.

yes because there have been so, so many live action fantasy movies recently

BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

still lolling at "muted color palette of LotR"

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's not fantasy, it's HBO

A decent little write-up about the 10-minute making of that premiered and also the branding of the show.

Gukbe, Monday, 6 December 2010 05:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

oh, and that Inside of Game of Thrones featurette:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJR3eBfcusM

Gukbe, Monday, 6 December 2010 05:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

This looks so good. I really, really hope it succeeds and gets George off his fat ass to finish the story before they catch up.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 6 December 2010 17:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ5p18wIQEI

April cannot come soon enough.

schwantz, Monday, 17 January 2011 17:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

im still peeved they didnt get tamzin merchant to play daenerys. her replacement doesnt look inbred enough imo. at least they got the iron throne right.

and yes this will be just for nerds.

, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 00:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hopefully it will do for us nerds who haven't read the books as well.

Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 00:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

i have the speakers off, did they cut this trailer to 'power'

this looks so awful. the throne of swords is a pretty stupid idea for a visual and this is not executed in any way that'd serve to redeem that

thomp, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 10:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

I pulled out my old copy to read again before the adaption starts and I'd totally forgotten I have an autographed copy.... lol.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

hi five!

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

also that counts as a humblebrag, right? ;)

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

i'm on storm of swords now. it's good, but i liked the first book best. should be incredibly easy to adapt for cable!

here's some big-ass pics:

http://i.imgur.com/0NlAW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xLJ3Y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vUc0i.jpg

ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

am 3/4 of the way through the first book...freaking love it!

those photos make me p excited for the tv show

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yes, I should have followed that up with #humblebrag

Looking at prices on eBay I'm wondering if I should just sell this thing, or wait a few more years?

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

wait until he's dead, yes

ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

holy crap @ the wall, that is impressive. is the 2nd one supposed to be winterfell? don't remember things well enough to ID the first one, maybe the lannisters' castle? that was by the ocean iirc

i'm real tempted to reread the books now that the 5th one finally has a release date and i don't remember most of the plot details, but that's like...4000 pages of pulp fantasy when i already have a long list of new and probably better things to read, damn. i'll probably do it anyway

ciderpress, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

whatever you do Jon, DON'T TOUCH THE BOOK AT ALL, EVER.

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

Those pics are awesome. I am pretty excited about this show.

ENBB, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

ya first one is king's landing, second is winterfell

ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

the casting is looking pretty good too

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah

ENBB, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Need to re-read but books completely boxed up and unreachable in storage!! ;_;

go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

very excited about hearing my first name spoken repeatedly on tv.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

Viserys?

go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

those pictures look pretty rad. i usually like this kind of stuff better when there are actors and, like, vistas, so that's another reason i'm looking forward to the adaptation, although the books were def A Cut Above.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

"robert"

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

nah theon.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

I've mostly gotten off the endless/knotted/OTT/hyperinvolved fantasy saga train by now for a variety of reasons -- changed foci of interest in life, etc. -- but I think I'll be good with this to watch as it stands. If anything I think I'm glad that it's been adapted rather than trying to imagine dealing with the whole series; if it delivers as good drama that's all I need, really. I have absolutely no doubt that if I was twenty years younger I would long since have memorized all the books backwards and forwards -- but I grew up when I did and I got, well, Dragonlance.

(My dream extended adaptation wouldn't actually be a fantasy series but would be a hell of a blast -- Dorothy Dunnett's Lymond/Niccolo cycles, set in Renaissance/16th century Europe; if you want hyperinvolved plotting across decades and shades of grey characterization, you want to read these ASAP. And she completed it all before she passed so no regrets a la Jordan.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah i'd say Martin is 90% likely to pull a Jordan at this point given his age/health and how slowly he's written the 5th book of supposedly 7 or 8

ciderpress, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm less convinced than everyone else that GRRM's gonna die before finishing. There's only 2 more books and he's only 62. Does he have any known health issues aside from the obesity?

ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

Not sure people are totally convinced he's gonna pop his clogs, it's more of a fatalist thing after what happened with RJ

Number None, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

xpost -- I suspect the only reason everyone's all thinking it might happen now is that people joked about it in re: Jordan for years and then he actually DID die and now people are all "MARTIN WE ARE PARANOID ABOUT YOU AND YOUR HEALTH ARGH"

(Or what Number None just said.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

Don't thing i could stomach another writer finishing these ala WOT though

Number None, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

A Song of Ice and Fire's epic conclusion, by Nicholas Sparks.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

;_;

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think he can definitely write 2 more books if he sticks to his guns, i'm more worried about him stretching the story out into more than 7 books. he's already done this once, it was originally gonna be 6 books and then A Feast for Crows was sandwiched in later, and it seems like each time he gives a new character a voice, even if they were in the storyline already, it just increases the scope of the whole thing.

ciderpress, Friday, 25 March 2011 00:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think i'll feel better about it if some of the separated characters' plotlines start to merge again in the next book, there was just so much fracturing of the plot by the end of book 3 and none of that's been resolved yet iirc

ciderpress, Friday, 25 March 2011 00:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

Must be kind of cool to have hundreds of thousands of people actively willing you to remain alive though. Maybe that's why he doesn't want to finish?

Number None, Friday, 25 March 2011 00:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

where was this filmed? i want to guess the winterfell area is scotland but i have no basis for that

ciderpress, Friday, 25 March 2011 00:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

maybe i'm just mentally linking The Wall with Hadrian's Wall or something

ciderpress, Friday, 25 March 2011 00:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

ireland, scotland and malta iirc

ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Friday, 25 March 2011 00:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

I thought some was in Morocco too but I might be wrong.

ENBB, Friday, 25 March 2011 00:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

I wish I had HBO now. That ice wall looks nice. I cannot even remember half of what I read tho. ;_

I expected big laughs from "Corky Romano" (brownie), Friday, 25 March 2011 00:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

part of the reason im pysched for the series is that it makes rereading at least one of the books unnecessary

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e13/Lendo80/fbgm.gif (Lamp), Friday, 25 March 2011 05:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

Every time I read about 'Sansa' my brain automatically starts chanting 'Sansabelt! Sansabelt! Sansabelt!'

VegemiteGrrl, Saturday, 26 March 2011 06:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

I started re-reading this, and I have to say I am worried that the show will sort of overwrite my own visualization of the various locations, kind of like Lord of the Rings did, despite my best efforts to resist it. May skip the show.

rockapads, Saturday, 26 March 2011 06:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

LOTR overwrote the visualisations from the Bakshi film for me, so an improvement.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Saturday, 26 March 2011 14:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

really dig the king's landing/winterfell contrast in those first two pictures. one of my favorite things in these books is (extremely minor spoiler) how homesick sansa gets for winterfell, and how defensive she is about the way it looks--low and grey and, um, stark, in a way she didn't know she loved when she was there, and didn't know was so much like her, cuz she thought she was all king's-landing-glam.

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 26 March 2011 15:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah my own visualization of winterfell wasn't quite as cloud-city-ish but i really love how it looks there anyway

ciderpress, Saturday, 26 March 2011 17:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

i like how both castles have architectural styles that aren't just plucked straight from the medieval europe cliche of a castle

ciderpress, Saturday, 26 March 2011 17:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

On first impressions, I don't thing it's stark enough? The interiors could win me over but in a general way, isn't constructing round buildings a lot more work and finesse-y than square ones? Doesn't seem in keeping, all the extra labor and attention just to result in some inconveniently round rooms.

go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Saturday, 26 March 2011 17:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

I agree with that. I definitely didn't picture it to be some kind of architectural marvel. it's supposed to be ancient.

rockapads, Saturday, 26 March 2011 18:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

it's been awhile since i've read these i'm pretty sure bran the builder (i swear i had to look him up!) was famous for his building.

dynamicinterface, Saturday, 26 March 2011 21:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

There's nothing particularly fancy about a rounded castle tower, and when they're built that way it's for a reason - they protect against siege weapons differently than a square building would. It's not exactly how I pictured Winterfell either, but it's a valid design decision that doesn't contradict anything we know about the Starks (and yeah, Brandon the Builder gets mentioned a lot... there's supposed to be a great architectural tradition in the North, eg. the Wall)

ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 27 March 2011 04:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

u r the biggest shithead

ENBB, Sunday, 27 March 2011 05:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

also can I just:

"NERRRRRRRD"

VegemiteGrrl, Sunday, 27 March 2011 05:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

tbh this series is probably third only to LOTR and harry potter for fans geeking out over minute details

ciderpress, Sunday, 27 March 2011 06:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

(eep shithead comment on wrong thread btw)

ENBB, Sunday, 27 March 2011 13:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

That's a relief!

ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 27 March 2011 14:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol lol

Godspeed HOOS! Black Steendriver (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 27 March 2011 18:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

tamtam i find it ridiculous that you have read these for some reason

that is some ugly composited architecture, the wall one has two horizons ffs

thomp, Sunday, 27 March 2011 18:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

My "nerd" comment 100% meant for tamtam...I kid bc I love

VegemiteGrrl, Sunday, 27 March 2011 20:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha thom, as i was composing that post i imagined you coming along and registering disgust with me

ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Monday, 28 March 2011 03:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

that is some ugly composited architecture, the wall one has two horizons ffs

Okay, I keep looking but I'm not seeing these two horizons at all.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 4 April 2011 02:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Already watched much of those 15 minutes through teasers, but still nice to see. Especially inside Winterfell. Was hoping to get the show's title sequence, though.

abcfsk, Monday, 4 April 2011 09:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

looked great...looking fwd to the start of this.

Packie Bonner (Local Garda), Monday, 4 April 2011 09:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

Productions values are satisfyingly high anyway

Number None, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

From the mid-season tv thread:

Not going to the Game of Thrones thread(s), but as someone who's never read the books, should I try to get in on the miniseries?

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, April 16, 2011 11:16 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

YES

― VegemiteGrrl, Saturday, April 16, 2011 11:19 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Not going to the Game of Thrones thread(s), but as someone who's never read the books, should I try to get in on the miniseries?

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, April 16, 2011 6:16 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

The thread for the series is spoiler-free I believe.

― Gukbe, Saturday, April 16, 2011 1:03 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i tried reading the book a couple years ago but i hated the writing and never got more than 40 pages in. that said, reviews for the show have been stellar so far and i'm really excited for it.

― Mordy, Saturday, April 16, 2011 1:12 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

stellar? NYT and slate both hated it

― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Saturday, April 16, 2011 1:26 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Both those reviewers seemed to have chips on their shoulders

― Number None, Saturday, April 16, 2011 1:31 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and the Slate review is basically unreadable

― Number None, Saturday, April 16, 2011 1:33 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah, I was reading something someplace that compared it favorably to a D&D The Wire (possibly on Wired.com?).

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, April 16, 2011 1:33 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

From the NYT review:

While I do not doubt that there are women in the world who read books like Mr. Martin’s, I can honestly say that I have never met a single woman who has stood up in indignation at her book club and refused to read the latest from Lorrie Moore unless everyone agreed to “The Hobbit” first.

In other words, I don't think Ginia Bellafante is predisposed to this sort of fare.

― reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Saturday, April 16, 2011 1:36 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ilana-teitelbaum/game-of-thrones-hbo_b_850014.html

― reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Saturday, April 16, 2011 1:41 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, 16 April 2011 20:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

Heather Havrilesky from NYT doesn't dislike it but has some interesting thoughts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Riff-t.html

Sepinwall loved it, VanDerWerff really liked it, but they have the advantage of 6 episodes.

Gukbe, Saturday, 16 April 2011 20:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh, and should we throw down some ground rules if people are going to be discussing this week-by-week? i.e. if you've read the books don't discuss anything further than where we are, but discussion of any differences in the TV show and the books from what we've seen is fine.

Gukbe, Saturday, 16 April 2011 20:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

obv i know but we don't want another Doctor Who thread on our hands.

Gukbe, Saturday, 16 April 2011 20:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

and to breakdown VanDerWerff's thoughts from his podcasts:

He has larger issues with HBO moving away from episodic television, and those issues manifest themselves in GoT. He wasn't too enthused when he'd watch one episode, but when he'd watch two in a row he'd really be into it. Also aside from the nudity of one character, he finds a lot of it to be somewhat gratuitous.

Also, Myles McNutt has a series of posts in the lead-up:

A Televisual Love Letter

A Question of Taste

On Winter's Doorstep

Gukbe, Saturday, 16 April 2011 21:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

and Zoller Seitz has weighed in on the reviews:

Slate, NYT to fantasy buffs: Grow Up

Gukbe, Saturday, 16 April 2011 21:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

that seitz article is good

it's basically getting two kinds of reviews as far as i can tell - good ones, and fantasy-hating dismissive ones (i didn't think there'd be so many of these!)

Oh, and should we throw down some ground rules if people are going to be discussing this week-by-week? i.e. if you've read the books don't discuss anything further than where we are, but discussion of any differences in the TV show and the books from what we've seen is fine.

― Gukbe, Saturday, April 16, 2011 4:51 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

this seems sufficient to me

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 16 April 2011 23:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sepinwall loved it, VanDerWerff really liked it, but they have the advantage of 6 episodes.

― Gukbe, Saturday, April 16, 2011 4:49 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

i think almost every reviewer is working w/the first 6 eps btw

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 16 April 2011 23:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

Fantasy-hating dismissive reviews make me want to take up my sword >:(
jerks

VegemiteGrrl, Sunday, 17 April 2011 00:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Gukbe's ground rules sound good to me too.

ENBB, Sunday, 17 April 2011 00:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

Alan Sepinwall gave it a great review: http://hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/review-hbos-game-of-thrones-an-epic-mature-well-crafted-fantasy-series

Mordy, Sunday, 17 April 2011 01:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

JESUS, this is starting tonight! For some reason I thought it was next fall.

brownie, Sunday, 17 April 2011 16:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

so excited!

Mordy, Sunday, 17 April 2011 16:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

WOOHOOO

the zing cheese incident (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 17 April 2011 20:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

HBO doesn't do itunes season passes do they? may have to break my moratorium on bittorrent to watch these without waiting months

ciderpress, Sunday, 17 April 2011 20:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

yayayayayayaay

VegemiteGrrl, Sunday, 17 April 2011 20:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

I got an invitation from someone who has HBO!!!!!! Pretty excited over here.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Sunday, 17 April 2011 21:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

No HBO. Gonna try to stream or download it.

ENBB, Sunday, 17 April 2011 21:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

lets do this

VegemiteGrrl, Sunday, 17 April 2011 21:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

Started watching but the stream was shut down. So how was it?!

ENBB, Monday, 18 April 2011 02:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

It was good. The story doesn't really start moving along until farther along in the story. This was more just of an introduction. What makes it so good is the characters and what happens to them.

allmypulp, Monday, 18 April 2011 02:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

so that was the queen and her brother at the end there?

Gukbe, Monday, 18 April 2011 02:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah. "the things I do for love"

allmypulp, Monday, 18 April 2011 02:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

Production was second to none. Great look and sound to this. Having read the book I was also pleased with the storytelling. The one gripe I have is at the end of the episode, which diverges from the book as I remember it. But a minor point.

calstars, Monday, 18 April 2011 02:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

The sets look great, as was the dialogue. And I had planned on expecting them to change some things in the story line. There is a lot to the story.

allmypulp, Monday, 18 April 2011 02:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

The one gripe I have is at the end of the episode, which diverges from the book as I remember it. But a minor point.

― calstars, Sunday, April 17, 2011 10:25 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yeah, that was the only change I didn't care for. Otherwise, pretty good.

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, 18 April 2011 03:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

AV Club review claims this is the weakest of the first six eps.

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Monday, 18 April 2011 03:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's a lot of build up and character introduction, mostly. You get to start seeing the viciousness of some of the characters as it goes along.

allmypulp, Monday, 18 April 2011 04:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sooooo sad I missed it this week, had prior engagement to see a good friend place music. But I do think I have a place to watch it squared away in the future (with Laurel!) so that is dope as hell.

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 18 April 2011 04:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

Pretty good! The only thing for me was all the boobage...I mean, it fit with the story and all but it also felt like they were meeting some kind of HBO quota

Love Dinklage as Tyrion, and <3 Sean Bean as Ned Stark, casting is top notch. Danerys and Drago are so spot on it's kind of scary.

One other small thing is that I wished they'd shown Danerys riding the horse Drago gives her, how much she loves it the way they describe in the book... seemed like a missed opportunity to me?

VegemiteGrrl, Monday, 18 April 2011 05:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sean Bean is great in the role. It's unfortunate that in this and lotr he plays such tragic characters.

allmypulp, Monday, 18 April 2011 05:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

He's so good at it though....think that face was pretty much made for it.

It's funny though, every time I see him I sigh a little and say "Oh brave Boromir" lol

VegemiteGrrl, Monday, 18 April 2011 05:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

It is a very solemn face. To a degree Boromir and Ed Stark are similar characters... both trying to save the kingdom.

allmypulp, Monday, 18 April 2011 06:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

sigh swoon noble hero

VegemiteGrrl, Monday, 18 April 2011 06:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

ok just caught up w/ this, really enjoyed it. it seems as if they're gonna write Theon out of the story completely, which makes sense since iirc he doesn't actually do much until the 3rd or 4th book and even then isn't a crucial character. everything else seemed like it was plotted straight from the book, i didn't catch whatever difference you folks were talking about at the end but i haven't read the books in 6 years so maybe my memory's off.

ciderpress, Monday, 18 April 2011 06:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

bran overhears queen and bro talking about their conspiracy, so it's not just that he sees them doing the nasty that gets him pushed out the window, it was that he had knowledge of their plot also

VegemiteGrrl, Monday, 18 April 2011 06:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

i doubt they're writing Theon out, he just doesn't have much to do in book 1 besides smirk a lot.

re: the ending of the episode, in the book when Bran stumbles onto jaime & cersei he listens in on them for a while and hears about a bunch of ~intrigues~ before watching them bone - i can understand why they cut it out, but i missed it all the same

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, 18 April 2011 06:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

xp

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, 18 April 2011 06:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

allmypulp's last two posts seem a little spoilery to me, maybe a mod should edit them? not to be all thread police-y but

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, 18 April 2011 06:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

I won't argue if they are. But you may want to edit some of the reviews that are listed, since they contain spoilers also.

allmypulp, Monday, 18 April 2011 06:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

allmypulp: just understand that there's several people on here watching this who haven't read the books, and this series has a lot of huge out-of-nowhere plot twists so it's particularly prone to spoiler-ruination

ciderpress, Monday, 18 April 2011 06:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

That's a good warning! xp

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, 18 April 2011 06:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

Okay, that's fair. Well I would've liked to more of Theon also. But it is just the first episode which I enjoyed, and am still anticipating the rest.

allmypulp, Monday, 18 April 2011 06:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah i don't remember theon doing anything interesting at least until book 2.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 18 April 2011 06:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

(sadface.)

difficult listening hour, Monday, 18 April 2011 06:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

Peter Dinklage is the best.

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Monday, 18 April 2011 06:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

actually my mistake, it looks like Theon is cast, he just didn't get pointed out yet. wouldn't be surprised if they play down his story anyway though, at least for the first season

ciderpress, Monday, 18 April 2011 07:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

Who is Theon I have read book 1 and don't even know who he is

VegemiteGrrl, Monday, 18 April 2011 07:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

He's Ed Starks ward from an island that rebelled against the king, so he's held as hostage by the Ed Stark under the pretense of being a "ward".

allmypulp, Monday, 18 April 2011 07:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

I really wasn't taken with the sex/nudity aspects of the pilot, but there's definitely some promise here. (I'm not familiar with the books at all.)

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Monday, 18 April 2011 08:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

"it seems as if they're gonna write Theon out of the story completely" -- if they do this i will credit them with a certain amount of nous, i guess? there's like two or three things that you can see would be obvious candidates for streamlining the narrative, and that seems like one of them

likewise glad that it's less clear what bran sees -- that said, i kind of think that even knowing who pushes him out of the window is cack-handed plotting: i mean, it makes the whole arc of the book fairly transparent once you learn (isolated datum which will probably be somewhere in the first six episodes)

re: the slate review - http://www.salon.com/entertainment/tv/feature/2011/04/16/game_of_thrones_review_of_reviewers - someone on tumblr posted a screengrab of that where every single ad on slate was for this show. er

i kind of want to watch the first episode or so of this, i feel like the combination of it being about elves and shit + apparent shitheap of gratuitous nudity = it will be a hard sell for the other half, i think

also i only want to watch it so i can complain about it on the internet? so i shouldn't bother, probably

thomp, Monday, 18 April 2011 09:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

I really wasn't taken with the sex/nudity aspects

phrases you rarely see

standing on the shoulders of pissants (ledge), Monday, 18 April 2011 11:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

from that salon article "Patterson is one of the sharpest, funniest TV reviewers out there"

oh plz.

Mordy, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hating Danaerys as she is cast. That part needs a true Scandanavian ice queen with wisp-fine white-blonde hair and hauteur she can wrap around herself like a cloak to shut out her inside from the outside. Not a cheap bottle job with brown eyebrows and too much blusher.

Everything else otm^10.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 18 April 2011 14:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

wife and i thought the pilot was great btw and we're totally onboard for the time being. so is this supposed to only be six episodes as the opening season (like walking dead) or is it just that reviewers have only seen the first six episode and we're going to have a more 13 episode season. bc it seems that with the cast of characters they've got, and the amount of written content Martin has produced, they could easily write episode after episode of compelling material.

Mordy, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

wikipedia says 10 eps

just sayin, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

I believe the first season is going to be ten episodes.

allmypulp, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ian! We'll review the first ep next week -- maybe we need to ALWAYS re-watch the prev ep before the new one is on? Makes a nice evening with good company even a bit longer.

Plus I want to AWWWWW at the WOLF PUPPIES again.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 18 April 2011 14:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

haven't watched this yet, hope to tonight

did ppl dig it?

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Monday, 18 April 2011 14:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

Loved. Loved.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 18 April 2011 14:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

i kind of want to watch the first episode or so of this, i feel like the combination of it being about elves and shit + apparent shitheap of gratuitous nudity = it will be a hard sell for the other half, i think

I watched this while my wife futzed around with her phone, her comments were something along the line of "every time I look up there are boobs wtf"

thought the eps was disappointing overall. the opening sequence was *really* well done, pretty much the main reason I tuned in after seeing the preview. set design + cinematography + acting were top notch but I don't get all the hurrahs for the script. characters were weakly written. and the danerys + drago sequences came off like some harlequin skinemax weaksauce.

haven't read the books but it seemed like this would only appeal to someone who loved them?

if u see l ron this weekend be sure & tell him THETAN THETAN THETAN (Edward III), Monday, 18 April 2011 14:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's not about elves and shit.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 18 April 2011 14:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

wolves and shit

if u see l ron this weekend be sure & tell him THETAN THETAN THETAN (Edward III), Monday, 18 April 2011 14:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

laurel i've read them, i'm just saying that the look they've gone for with this pretty broadly telegraphs ELVES AND SHIT. 'dragons and shit' would have accomplished the same admittedly

thomp, Monday, 18 April 2011 15:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

And had the advantage of being accurate.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 18 April 2011 15:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

Waiting for Carcetti to arrive

calstars, Monday, 18 April 2011 15:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

haven't read the books but it seemed like this would only appeal to someone who loved them?

i hated what i read. the show has the advantage of not being written in terrible fantasy trope language. (gritty fantasy or not.)

Mordy, Monday, 18 April 2011 16:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

and some of the cgi is so impressive that it's more like LOTR where you don't care that it's a theme you've seen a dozen times. like the guard riding out past that huge wall was OMG impressive.

Mordy, Monday, 18 April 2011 16:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

not being written in terrible fantasy trope language.

Man, if you think GRRM is "terrible fantasy trope language", you better just stay away from the genre completely, because, imho, he's one of the least worrisome offenders for this type of thing.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

I agree with Mordy.

I like fantasy more on screen than on the page, generally.

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

this show seems ok

─►.butt.tko (Lamp), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

I have never read the books and haven't read much fantasy, but I enjoyed this. Some problems that I'll write off as pilot-issues but I'm looking forward to the rest. We'll know in the next 3 or 4 episodes just how much being a fan of the book matters.

Gukbe, Monday, 18 April 2011 16:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

also theon never does anything interesting

─►.butt.tko (Lamp), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

martin's not a great stylist, but i stopped noticing/caring about 1/3 of the way into GoT - that's not really why you read this stuff anyway

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

i had a hard time getting into Book 1 but was looking forward to this. It's great so far but have to agree with this:

"and the danerys + drago sequences came off like some harlequin skinemax weaksauce"

also, drago wedding fight scene was some Star Trek : TOS lolz but with tits and rape.

akm, Monday, 18 April 2011 17:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

the title/credits sequence with the little clockwork gameboard showing all the locales is v. awesome imo. and supposedly it changes from episode to episode depending on where stuff's happening

ciderpress, Monday, 18 April 2011 19:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

really? thats a nice touch!

VegemiteGrrl, Monday, 18 April 2011 19:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

not sure if thats true, i just remember reading it somewhere

ciderpress, Monday, 18 April 2011 19:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

i hope it's true...we'll have to check the next set of credits to see

VegemiteGrrl, Monday, 18 April 2011 19:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

martin's not a great stylist, but i stopped noticing/caring about 1/3 of the way into GoT - that's not really why you read this stuff anyway

― cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, April 18, 2011 11:51 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^word up

the zing cheese incident (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 April 2011 20:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

This is why I don't read much fantasy lit. Wish I could get past it but I can't.

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Monday, 18 April 2011 20:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

martin's prose is functional but he certainly does like to tell you what color people's doublets are.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 18 April 2011 20:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

he likes to say "nearly a man grown"

the zing cheese incident (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 April 2011 20:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

at least westeros' weird seasons thing invalidates the "she had seen barely thirteen summers" sort of thing because you just know he'd be dipping in that well like once per page

difficult listening hour, Monday, 18 April 2011 20:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

dude is a perv tbh

the zing cheese incident (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 April 2011 20:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

I was surprised to learn that he uses the word "fuck" in the books.

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Monday, 18 April 2011 20:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

The robe completes the outfit. and he kind of looks like the playing robert baratheon

allmypulp, Monday, 18 April 2011 20:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

for anyone who's watching this without reading the books and wants to get all the characters/houses/history straight, HBO has a great little viewers' guide that doesn't appear to spoil anything that's not pre-episode-1 backstory:
http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/#!/guide/houses/

ciderpress, Monday, 18 April 2011 21:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

Video podcast with cast interviews and stuff: http://skyatlantic.sky.com/game-of-thrones/thronecast

Walter Galt, Monday, 18 April 2011 21:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

this was terrible. so much hair gel. so many stupid accents. and the horselord wedding reception.

adam, Monday, 18 April 2011 22:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

It was distracting how white Drogo's teeth were.

calstars, Monday, 18 April 2011 22:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

Nah, the third book goes into great detail re: Dothraki dental plan.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 April 2011 22:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

i just watched the 25 minute making of that's on the HBO site (still having not seen the first ep) and I gotta say the guy who plays Drogo seems like a bro in all senses of the word.

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 18 April 2011 22:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

dude is a klingon

akm, Monday, 18 April 2011 22:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dude is also going to play Conan later this year.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 April 2011 22:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

He was in Stargate Atlantis, too. Nerd cred.

Walter Galt, Monday, 18 April 2011 22:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

It was distracting how white Drogo's teeth were.

Someone else I was watching it with said this! What I noticed mostly was that his breasts are bigger than Danaerys'.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 18 April 2011 23:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

Xpost aha that's where I recognize him from!

VegemiteGrrl, Monday, 18 April 2011 23:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

OK watched it - was good! Also posts very much in character but Laurel otm re the wolf pups omg. The end was great too. I didn't have a problem with the nudity/boobage but I was a bit fan of Rome which has tons of that sort of thing so maybe I'm just used to it. I want the next one already! Damn.

ENBB, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 00:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah see I have enjoyed Rome, Deadwood, all the HBO stuff...maybe it was more "boobs in broad daylight" then that was giving me hangups? Dunno.

VegemiteGrrl, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 00:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

Biggest WTF moment - "The Dothraki have no word for thank you"

Number None, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 00:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Wait, why is that wtf? Irish Gaelic doesn't have a word for "no." Sort of. There are workarounds, but there's no direct translation for a flat No.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 01:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm Irish funnily enough. The line wasn't in the book and it just seemed really cheesy.

Number None, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 01:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

Haha ilx being what it is, I wondered right after I said that if I was carrying coals to Newcastle. Haven't read the books in years so I can't remember exactly what was in them.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 01:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

It was just like, really, that's the line you decide to add?

Number None, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 01:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

you know damn well what was in the books--sex, violence and the occasional supernatural threat.

one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 01:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

and richly colored doublets

VegemiteGrrl, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 01:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

YES but not line by line.

Actually watching the first ep reminded me of so many parts of the story that have really long and complex lines to play out. Some things are lengthy but straightforward, you can sort of see the gears turning already, but some things have SO MANY TWISTS TO GO and I'm feeling a slight tedium already because I know they just aren't fruitful lines of hope or progress for the characters.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 01:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

has marc loi filed his review yet

thetan is cheatin (cozen), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 06:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

For those wondering about Theon, he apparently does come into a lot more in the first six episodes. I reckon he'll have an awesome payoff in the books down the line as well.

Number None, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 09:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

@PFTompkins
"Do something, fantasy Denis Leary! That kid saw us incesting each other!" #gameofthroenesonhbo

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 10:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol

ENBB, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/hbo-renews-game-of-thrones

Not great opening numbers, tho. Of course. I can't remember the last time a show I liked got great numbers.

Mordy, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 15:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

The obvious expense of the show made a second season almost inevitable. It would have needed Terrier-like numbers to not get renewed. There's enough promise that I hope it builds an audience and does well. It looks like the kind of story I'd like to see through.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 15:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

It'll do well on home video. All scifi/fantasy stuff does.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 15:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

the tra-la-la-la-la high fantasy stuff was a bit out of control. the stupid dothraki wedding looked like it was dreamed up by a 13-year old with a boner and a bad understanding of sex.

they call him (remy bean), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 15:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm not sure if you can fault the show for that though, it was pretty faithful to the description in the book. I mean, if you are objecting to the way it was shot or whatever, fair play, but I don't get people faulting the show for staying faithful to the source material.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 16:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

"it was like that in the book" isn't an excuse for a film version sucking

there are many ways that scene could've been shot, and the way they decided to go was cheeeeze

if u see l ron this weekend be sure & tell him THETAN THETAN THETAN (Edward III), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 16:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

Thats why I was asking, I was trying to understand why it bugged remy. The concept in general?

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 16:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

conceptually there isn't anything wrong w/ a timid girl getting thrown into the midst of a savage culture, but the execution here was laughable

if u see l ron this weekend be sure & tell him THETAN THETAN THETAN (Edward III), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 16:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

i agree with edward the concept is fine – in the book i'm okay with with the dothraki. in the pilot, there were certain editorial decisions w/r/t importance of various salacious bits that took precedence over what i would value in a good story. i.e. the ... lingering on the sexiness (for the sake of sexiness) rather than as indicative of the power relationships between dany, vis, and drogo. i mean, the whole incesty boob-grab played as soft-focus porny rather than upsetting and manipulative.

they call him (remy bean), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 16:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

i agree with edward that the concept is fine.

they call him (remy bean), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 16:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think the wedding was even worse than the rave in the 2nd matrix movie as far as dionysian nerd fantasies go

adam, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 16:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

get the feeling daenerys wasn't cast based on acting chops either, it's like the director said "you're forlorn eye candy, ACTION"

if u see l ron this weekend be sure & tell him THETAN THETAN THETAN (Edward III), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

^^^^

otm

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

now step into the tub slowly

if u see l ron this weekend be sure & tell him THETAN THETAN THETAN (Edward III), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

It was funny the way the camera panned down at one point specifically so her whole ass would be in the frame.

Number None, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah I know..that whole sequence was weird

VegemiteGrrl, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Guys, guys, that's only 75% ass. The contract specifically calls for a 100 at all times."

Number None, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://oi53.tinypic.com/2ldkuj4.jpg

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 18:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

He is the cutest - those ears!

I think I actually saw "awwwwwwww" out loud at that point.

I want one.

ENBB, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 18:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

err said "awwwwwwwww" not saw "aawwwwwwww"

ENBB, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 18:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

it was like in one of those cartoons when the character hits his head and sees stars, except you were so stricken by the cuteness that you saw awwwws.

Mordy, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

pretty much otm

ENBB, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

When he was climbing the wall I kept wondering why they built the castle for Assassin's Creed specifications.

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

it wasn't great but will watch a few more before damning it completely.

Will.Have.Known (Local Garda), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 00:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

supposedly it gets (even) better

Mordy, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 00:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah like...if you watch six seasons of the sopranos or whatev the first few are always a bit shonky.

Will.Have.Known (Local Garda), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 00:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

idk, sopranos seem like a big exception to that rule. episode one is still a defining thematic episode. that's one thing reviewers have pointed out about the thrones pilot that i think is otm. there's no particular scene that really pulls together the major themes of the show. it's more of a preview/prologue type of episode where all the pieces are put into place. not that that is a particularly bad idea -- the world they're playing with is much much larger than the one of the sopranos.

Mordy, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 00:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yes, but in this case they have the added responsibility of a viewership that already knows the entire contents of this season of planned plot developments. I can understand how that makes a tough balance between keeping the allegiances of the readers and drawing in new HBO viewers. That is not a comfortable seat, all in all.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 01:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

dude is a perv tbh

I agree, but I think he may have more of a pregnancy fetish than anything else. At least that's what I get from the books.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 01:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

That wolf pup is CGI, right?

calstars, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 02:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

NNOOOOOO they used sled-dog puppies.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 02:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

Those ears are 100% REAL, AND THEY ARE GLORIOUS.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 02:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

^^^^^

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 02:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

idk, sopranos seem like a big exception to that rule. episode one is still a defining thematic episode. that's one thing reviewers have pointed out about the thrones pilot that i think is otm. there's no particular scene that really pulls together the major themes of the show. it's more of a preview/prologue type of episode where all the pieces are put into place. not that that is a particularly bad idea -- the world they're playing with is much much larger than the one of the sopranos.

One of the articles linked above talks about the move away from episodic television altogether on HBO. The Sopranos and Deadwood both establish a lot about their central characters in the first episodes, and they're still fairly episodic in nature to give a full story, which GoT doesn't really do except some broad character strokes. Still, those shows took 3 or 4 episodes to really show their stuff ("College" and "Here Was A Man" are the ones usually cited).

I don't think GoT will be nearly as good as either of those, but it looks to be pretty entertaining once it gets going. Also, pretty much everything I've read says the pilot is the worst of the first 6.

Agreed about the nudity, though I think the brother-groping scene is a bit more pervy than you're giving it credit for. Certainly the final scene with her and the new husband is played for violation-by-the-Other discomfort.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 03:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think the wedding was even worse than the rave in the 2nd matrix movie as far as dionysian nerd fantasies go

― adam, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 16:49 (Yesterday)

the angry, grunty dry humping was fucking HILARIOUS.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 03:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

I agree, but I think he may have more of a pregnancy fetish than anything else. At least that's what I get from the books.

so i started re-reading the first book last night and there have already been at like three references to someone's seed quickening in someone else's womb or whatever so you may be on to something.

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 07:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

For those wondering about Theon, he apparently does come into a lot more in the first six episodes. I reckon he'll have an awesome payoff in the books down the line as well.

― Number None, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 09:54 (Yesterday) Bookmark

ha ha ha

idk, sopranos seem like a big exception to that rule. episode one is still a defining thematic episode. that's one thing reviewers have pointed out about the thrones pilot that i think is otm. there's no particular scene that really pulls together the major themes of the show.

― Mordy, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 00:39 (9 hours ago) Bookmark

errrr did they skip the execution? because that's pretty much the whole thing there, I gotta say

thomp, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 10:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

Why the laugh?

Number None, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 10:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

errrr did they skip the execution? because that's pretty much the whole thing there, I gotta say

i think the execution says a lot about that particular family and that particular people living in the north, but didn't really seem to speak to the exiled king or the real party king or any of the other groups. which idk having not read the book i can't comment with any authority.

Mordy, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

= 'these are the sorts of bad decisions that acting honourably leads you to'

thomp, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think there's also the pressure on those who DO act honorably to make even become even more vigilant/observant when standards seem to be loosening all around them -- ex Robert's slack court in the South. The whole world is putting N. Stark in this position, and he's becoming more alone every day.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

(Sorry about the mis-read there, was revising in a hurry.)

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

yo thomp...

Number None, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think it's funny that, at this point, anyone would have any faith in george r.r. martin's ability to plot a novel in a way that would result in any kind of satisfying experience for the reader

thomp, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ah right, you may have a point there.

Number None, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

at this point -- you mean one episode in (and it gets better) or you mean considering the corpus of material he's already written?

Mordy, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

alllll my wolves stay real
stark don't think these political deals
gonna feed your seeds
and pay your bills because they not

(xxp)

c( ☠_ ☠ )ↄ (Lamp), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

George got a little bit of love and thinks's he's hot

Number None, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

mordy, sorry, that was in response to the thing about whether it will turn out in book five, six, or seven that theon has some reason for having been there

thomp, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

hey guess what

http://images.hitfix.com/photos/503754/game-of-thrones-daenerys_article_story_main.jpg

winter is busting a nut all or ya face

dearth of the hipster (Lamp), Thursday, 21 April 2011 00:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

That photo is the wrong color, on the tv her hair is a woolly yellow-blond that looks like someone hid the undyed roots with cornstarch and powder bleach. I'll be delighted, though, when the character gets to a place where she makes that resolute a face ALL the time.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 21 April 2011 01:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

sarah connor IS cersei lannister

calstars, Thursday, 21 April 2011 01:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sky Atlantic fan show (probably not for people who already know the books and stuff, it's pretty beginner-y... might be of interest? It's an iTunes podcast, too):
http://skyatlantic.sky.com/game-of-thrones/

Walter Galt, Thursday, 21 April 2011 20:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

Whoops: http://skyatlantic.sky.com/game-of-thrones/thronecast

Walter Galt, Thursday, 21 April 2011 20:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

ha "thronecast", sounds like they're broadcasting from a toilet

it always seems to have dick smith in it (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 April 2011 21:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

podthrone

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 21 April 2011 21:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

You Shit Or You Die

last name ever, first name gjetost (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 21 April 2011 23:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

Urine is Coming

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 21 April 2011 23:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

Haven't read the books, loved the first episode.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Friday, 22 April 2011 04:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

Already so much shit going down!

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Friday, 22 April 2011 04:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

Finally got to watch the first episode. From the talk of things the wedding scene was going to be some grand cheese ball of central focus, but a few quick flashes to dry humping I can take. I thought the episode was solid -- some stiff dialogue about who is who and what is what was necessary and they got through the exposition fairly effectively here. Some more to come, no doubt, but once we get a few episodes into this I think the characters will make for compelling viewing by themselves. All the actors seemed very well cast. Sansa was perfect.

abcfsk, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

I agree-- this episode had pilot-itis where they have to give you a tidbit of everyone involved but a meal of none. And I do trust the characters will get to stretch out a bit starting in the next coupla.

Agree with reservations about the Daneirys actress-- not so much physically but the tone of her performance-- the somnambulist/frightened rabbit thing. Didn't seem right.

My only outright beef is with the music. Cheap, generic, dull. I understand that they fired their original composer (Stephen Warbeck) vcery late in the game, so that Ramin Djawadi had scant time to do his job, but this just sounds like stuff you'd hear on an electronic RPG or a History Channel special on Vikings. In other words, they need to fire their composer again pronto. All the painstaking, beautiful execution on so many other fronts and they think people won't notice this half-assed crap?

last name ever, first name gjetost (Jon Lewis), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think the frightened rabbit thing is is the right look for her so far.. what was entertaining about the character in the book was how she came off as frightened, unsure, dulled by suppression, but then had moments when provoked where she exploded and found her powers.

abcfsk, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

^^^

I think its totally okay for her to be a frightened rabbit at this point, her future is so unsure and her supposed protector is a creep!

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

OK so maybe frightened rabbit is apt but what about the weird sleepwalker affect?

last name ever, first name gjetost (Jon Lewis), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

To let the camera linger on her ass better, iirc.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

Eh it's predicable "pretty, scared girl" stuff, it's fine, not going to ruin the show for me. But as a young woman who had never known anything else I imagined her being a lot more affect-less, that she would have figured out how to hide her fear by now -- this is how her whole life has been.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

I actually think the sleepwalking thing is the right direction.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

Maybe its because I just finished rereading the book before I watched this, but she comes across as still pretty fearful, at least prior to the wedding and up to her deflowering.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

I defer to anyone who's read the books more recently than about 4 years ago! Damn it.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

There is still some awkwardness about her, thats for sure, but I don't think the fearful thing is the problem just yet. We'll have to see how she evolves over the next few episodes, thats for sure.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Fair enough. Anyone else hate the music as much as me?

last name ever, first name gjetost (Jon Lewis), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

Didn't even notice it, not one second of the music made any impression on me. Will be paying much closer attn this week, though, now that you've mentioned it.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

I really dug the 'spooky' two-note theme during the opening scene

Brakhage, Friday, 22 April 2011 17:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

That's an interesting point, the opening scene was well scored. Increased my bummerz regarding what followed musically. Maybe this composer is better at creepy/textural/semi-ambient scoring than other aspects.

It sounded to me like most of the score was a few acoustic instruments augmented by synths imitating an orchestra, which is always NAGL in my opinion (if you're gonna do a synth score then fucking OWN that fact!)

last name ever, first name gjetost (Jon Lewis), Friday, 22 April 2011 17:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ok so what historical racial analogue are the Klingon guys supposed to be? Because it's pretty clear they're supposed to represent some non-Euro Other, but they still got a white guy to play the bossman.

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Saturday, 23 April 2011 07:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

Mongols, maybe.

abcfsk, Saturday, 23 April 2011 09:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Not everything in fantasy has to have a direct analogue.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Saturday, 23 April 2011 09:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

Anyway, the guy who plays Khal Drogo is Hawaiian. So he is actually a non-Euro.

Number None, Saturday, 23 April 2011 09:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

'Ok so what historical racial analogue are the Klingon guys supposed to be?'

the french

thomp, Saturday, 23 April 2011 13:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

The dry humping raves during Louis XIV were legendary

Brakhage, Saturday, 23 April 2011 15:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

ha ha

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 23 April 2011 15:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's a good point though - I keep seeing historical analogues for everything in the show - the Great Wall, Genghis Khan, Wars of the Roses - distracting. Better that than analogues to some other fantasy material though.

Brakhage, Saturday, 23 April 2011 16:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

daenerys = omar etc

abcfsk, Saturday, 23 April 2011 17:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

omar little?

I'm just shillin, like bob dylan (Edward III), Saturday, 23 April 2011 18:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Anyway, the guy who plays Khal Drogo is Hawaiian. So he is actually a non-Euro.

Stand corrected! (Was thinking he had a really nice tan.)

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Saturday, 23 April 2011 18:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

He is also married to Lisa Bonet as I learned last night. Weird!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Saturday, 23 April 2011 19:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

Throw the kid out the window and whatevs, but force the death of that poor wolf!!! fucking hate the Lannisters.

Totally into this now, btw.

Gukbe, Monday, 25 April 2011 02:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

This one was good. Makes a world of difference spending some time with characters interacting instead of chop-chopping through plot.

abcfsk, Monday, 25 April 2011 09:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

this is some camp-ass crap

thomp, Monday, 25 April 2011 13:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

why is a grown-ass man playing jon snow

why is tyrion still addressing him as though he was a fourteen year old

why can none of these people act

when does carcetti show up

thomp, Monday, 25 April 2011 13:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

He shows up in the next episode but I think it's better for everyone if you just stop watching.

abcfsk, Monday, 25 April 2011 14:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

it's better for you all if you just stop watching imo

thomp, Monday, 25 April 2011 14:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

i can watch it for you and report back via this thread, everyone will by happy

thomp, Monday, 25 April 2011 14:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

That doesn't make sense. I hope you never get to write a script!

abcfsk, Monday, 25 April 2011 14:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol thomp in "omg older people play way younger than they really are on television show" shocker

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 25 April 2011 14:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

I still really hate the Daenerys subplot, maybe even more this week thanks to the laughable addition of the quasi-lesbian sex tutor.

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Monday, 25 April 2011 17:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

I felt the same way about the Daenerys plot when I read the books till later on in the series. I just half-assed my through her stuff in the first book to get back the the much more rich plots.

allmypulp, Monday, 25 April 2011 18:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

Daenerys went from mournful rape victim to believable courtesan in one episode.

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Monday, 25 April 2011 18:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

I smell emmy

don't judge a book by its jpg (Edward III), Monday, 25 April 2011 18:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

xpost don't live in the past

allmypulp, Monday, 25 April 2011 18:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

the wolf jumping on joffrey was lollable. it, like, leapt in the air on a trampoline. i wish z_s could make a .gif of it (pretty please?)

they call him (remy bean), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 02:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

i watched the first episode, i approve and will continue watching this series

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 02:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

i agree with the above about how shitty the wedding scene is. felt like a bad star trek episode. also uhhhhhhhh racially problematic.

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 02:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

2nd ep fucking BRINGS it. So much more involving than the debut.

It'd been long enough since I read the books that I forgot the feeling of sinking horror that arises with the Arya/Butcher's Boy/Sansa/Joffrey fiasco. It's like, hmmm, let me just switch on this infernal machine over here, ah yes that seems to be running nicely.

The Joffrey actor soooo perfect; the mere sight of his face makes me want to throttle him.

last name ever, first name gjetost (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 03:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

also they should really get someone besides dennis leary to play incestbro

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 03:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

He looks like Aaron Eckhart

VegemiteGrrl, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 03:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

POOR PUPPY!!!! D:

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 04:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

I am going to find a dog now so I can hug it.

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 05:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://i54.tinypic.com/2nrg7yx.gif

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 05:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

I would like a gif of one of the wolfpuppies jumping up and tearing someone's throat out.

Alba, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 08:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/a1ZES.gif

She Got the Shakes, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 09:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

He looks like Aaron Eckhart

― VegemiteGrrl, Monday, April 25, 2011 11:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

THANK YOU! SO MUCH LIKE Aaron Eckhart. This was killing me last night because I couldn't remember his name. "He looks exactly like that guy, you know, the one from The Dark Knight. You know which one I mean - that one - the one he looks like dammit!!"

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 13:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

Also did we decide if those wolves are real cause the face on that one that she hugs is just amazing. THOSE EYES! I almost think that it can't possible by real.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 13:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

can I just say I'm still lolling pretty hardcore at the wedding scene 2 weeks later

I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 14:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

Just FYI I'm not reading this thread right now because we didn't see it on Sunday -- will catch up next week!

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 14:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

what laurel, you think something's gonna be spoiled for you?!

one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 14:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

Not taking any chances.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 14:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh I love them. The look he gave her during that hug! I died.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

Apparently the actress who plays Sansa adopted her dog once filming finished so there's kind of a happy ending.

Number None, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

Chiming in to randomly note that the director of the first two episodes, Tim Van Patten, has a hell of a TV director/writer career already -- dude co-wrote "Pine Barrens" among other things -- and that longtime MST3K fans know him from his earlier years:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0lIOaq3oEY

Bootstrapping, always a fine thing! Seriously!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's generally reassuring when you see Van Patten's name in the credits of a show.

Number None, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 18:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

that one dude totally looks like dave navarro in his guyliner

homosexual II, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 18:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

Tim Van Patten is awesome in Class of 1984, that is such a fun/funny movie.

Peyton Flanders (Nicole), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 18:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

omg guys i watched eps 1 & 2 today and i love this show a lot and hope there are dragons soon
and the wolf-dogs i love the wolf-dogs too

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 03:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

hope that little prince gets killed.

shamefully blowable (latebloomer), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 03:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

totally digging this show, btw

i dislike fantasy (with some exceptions) but this is good so far.

shamefully blowable (latebloomer), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 03:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

finally watched Ep 2...after careful consideration I really don't like the Danerys scenes...want to fast forward to where she gets interesting. But otherwise loving it. Arya is pretty great huh? And the wolves were awesome this week : D

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 04:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm willing to put up with the Danerys scenes because uh ahem

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 04:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

yes yes nubile boobs yay etc

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 04:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah i remember when i read the books i didn't find Dany's storyline engaging at all until later in the series. the show hasn't really changed that yet.

ciderpress, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 05:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

see I guess I wasn't thinking about how it would look played out on tv...but I love that storyline, from go she was interesting to me...but I don't know what it is,maybe it's just that her inner life doesn't come through. Also it just becomes the "boobs" portion of the show. I dunno. Maybe it will improve as her arc develops

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 05:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

I like this.

also am I right in that the sex scene witnessed by lil dude was incestuous? still trying to keep the characters straight

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 15:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yep. They're brother/siter which is why the small fry had to fly.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 15:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

sister

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 15:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

surprised to see that in tv tbh! I mean I know it's Hbo but actual depicted incest seems p rare

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 15:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

well evan the actors are not actually brother and sister, and they are not actually having sex

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 15:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

it's kind of fundamental to the series

I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 15:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

it happened in Rome. This is old hat for HBO.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 15:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

As my wife said the other night, "so apparently in this fictional continent they love the doggie style".

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 15:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

warning: if you are married and watch this show u will be mocked

don't judge a book by its jpg (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

wait, what?

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

My wife is totally into this show!

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

I mean, it doesn't hurt that she finds Dany even hotter than I do and she was hoping for more of the "seduction lesson", but, yeah, she is enjoying it so far.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

mine loves it too, and she never read the books

I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah my wife loved the book and loves the show so far.

agreed that episode 2 was far better, really slowed down the pace and let you get to know the characters

joffrey is such a little fuckstick i forgot how much i hate him

rip lady the direwolf :(

would stress to those who haven't read: all the adolescent fantasy sex stuff is straight from the books, they might actually be toning it down.

coo coo khal (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

wives!

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

tbh if my wife was watching this I'd be mocking her

I need to stay out of this thread

don't judge a book by its jpg (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yes, you do. WTF?

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sorry but seriously.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

The Joffrey casting is so perfect, I hated him so much even before the scene with Arya and the butcher boy.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the casting is amazing. That kid's face just looks so awful and snotty. I hate him so much.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

My only (very minor) casting gripe is Caetlyn, I feel like she's a little bit too old. Isn't she still supposed to be like really pretty? Not that the actress playing her is ugly by any means, I just don't get the vibe implied from the book that she is supposed to be really pretty still.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think she's kind of perfect; at this point, she's an anchor of reality in the books and seems to be functioning much the same way here, both in terms of her outlook/reactions and how she looks like a normal, attractive middle-aged woman in this casting pool of ludicrously good-looking people.

Tyrion slapping the shit out of Joffrey was the highlight of my April, and I watched the Doctor Who premiere.

I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

MY wife's big gripes are Caetlyn's age and how bad the wigs are. Otherwise we're enjoying, though they don't really hold even a dim candle to the books.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

That makes sense, I think her casting will make more sense as the series moves forward and she shows her real strength instead of just grieving mom.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hah hah.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

laurel i thought you weren't reading this thread. ;)

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

Couldn't resist. Soooo wishing for Suuunnday.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

would stress to those who haven't read: all the adolescent fantasy sex stuff is straight from the books, they might actually be toning it down.

Disagree with this. The books have their fair share of embarrassing sex scenes but they've definitely ramped up the raunch quotient in the tv show. As far as i remember, Daenerys getting some lessons in love from her handmaid is only alluded to in the first book. They also threw in an scene with Tyrion in the first episode that wasn't in the books seemingly just to get some more boobs on screen.

Number None, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

Here (points to self) is another motherfucker whose wife is at least as into the books/show as he is, if not more.

Re: Dani sex scenes, I actually think the show has made them more rapey than in the book. The first time with Drogo actually has some slight tenderness to it in the book IIRC? Not in ep 1 of the show, though.

last name ever, first name gjetost (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha xpost

last name ever, first name gjetost (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

I guess watching Rome made me a little more immune to the gratuitous sex scenes, they don't seem as surprising really.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

They definitely lezzed up the love lessons scene. I don't really get why this is surprising or upsetting to people at this point. I mean it's HBO, what the hell do you expect? I'm not going to complain because a) big deal and b) Khal Drogo's ass.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

I need to reread but I thought some form of that introduction scene occurred in the books, if not as Tyrion's introduction...? The whole "the gods made up for my body by giving me a massive cock" thing I'm sure was in the books somewhere.

I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

hmmm i remember the love lessons being pretty lezzed up and there's even more scorcery lez in later books

anyway martin always seemed creepy and rapey to me, one of the things i don't really like abt it

the thing about this being on HBO and the fact that Martin has become such a big deal is it makes people wish he wasn't - at heart- just a pulp fantasy novelist. which he is. he's not like literary fantasy, he's just a rainman level high functioning savant pulp novelist

coo coo khal (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

Mr Veg hasnt read the books but is enjoying so far. Yay husbands!

Re: the Wall in the animated map credits he said "Why do they hate Scotland?" irl lols

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

he's not like literary fantasy, he's just a rainman level high functioning savant pulp novelist

Cosign. I've learnt to accept this fact and even view it as a strength, but this is why I put e.g. Robin Hobb on a slightly higher shelf than GRRM. And why I have absolutely no qualms about GoT possibly finding its best expression as a TV series (we'll see if that's how it turns out).

last name ever, first name gjetost (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

Maybe this has already been covered somewhere, but I might have missed it. Do we know how the timing for these seasons are going to work out? I mean, is season 1 going to cover the first book, season 2 book 2, etc? Because man, we're going to be left for a hella cliffhanger when they catch up with GRRM.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

I feel like they're really far into book 1 already after only 2 episodes. But I haven't gone and checked in terms of page count or whatever.

last name ever, first name gjetost (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

Thats what I was thinking too, actually.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

btw i noticed the name in the credits and looked it up! ilyn payne (the tongueless bald dude that is the king's justice) is WILKO JOHNSON of Dr. Feelgood! crazy

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/21000000/Game-of-Thrones-game-of-thrones-21095017-309-633.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rn45_OO9rk&feature=related

coo coo khal (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

I remember reading somewhere that the first season will cover the first book.

allmypulp, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

There's a lot of story to tell, I think they're following the book's pacing pretty closely.

Personally I don't want book three split into two seasons like others.. just make book four half a season and give the other half to the rest of book three.

Seems by his blog that he's just done writing the new book.

abcfsk, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah the first 2 seasons will be the first 2 books, they might stretch it out a bit more after that though since the 3rd book is so long and dense

and yeah new book has a release date in july iirc

ciderpress, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'll believe it when I'm holding it in my hands.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

Robin Hobb

you will not feel this way about Robin Hobb after you've read her Forest Mage books, is my prediction

I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

my wife is a fan of the books and so far the only way i've gotten even a little engaged w/ the show is if i watch it with her and she provides a running commentary track and explains what stuff means and why it will matter later, etc. maybe if i keep it up eventually i will actually care, i dunno though.

so far my favorite parts are Peter Dinklage pimpin' hoes and smacking kids around. i want someone to make a youtube of his first scene in the pilot set to Shawnna's "Gettin' Some Head".

barbaric ya'll (some dude), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

xpost yeah it'll be awhile before i get to that trilogy... and your repeated warnings have been noted.

last name ever, first name gjetost (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dinklage is my favorite thing about the show so far; also Arya.

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

His accent is a bit crap tho. Maybe i'll get used to it.

Number None, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

Out of curiosity: are there any actual fantastical elements to this world? Cuz it mostly seems like gussied up historical fiction? Aside from non-functional dragon eggs and "dire wolfs," there's been no allusions to anything supernatural or magickal or w/e. Not complaining, mind, just curious as to what marks this as fantasy aside from taking place somewhere made up.

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

stay tuned

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

His accent isnt great, but he's fun to watch and it really isn't that much worse than McNultys

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

stay tuned

^__^

answer I was hoping for tbh

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

trust us, shit is legit

I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

there are demons and magic zombies right in the first five minutes iirc.

, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's Dinklage's attitude that nails it. His interactions with Jon Snow about why he reads, beating Joffrey jerkface...100% Tyrion

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

I quite like his accent. Definitely heard far worse Brit accents from yank actors.

curious as to what marks this as fantasy aside from taking place somewhere made up.

That's all you need to make something fantasy really. Plus there was some kind of supernatural shenanigans going on at the very start of E1.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

and an ogre with a talking donkey iirc.

xposts

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

also: Dinklage is my favorite thing about the show so far; also Arya.

OTM; very glad to see they have mirrored the books well enough for my allegiances to transfer over intact (altho I am a little worried about my friend who is still very strongly Team Daenerys)

I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

just to clarify, my point above wasn't "wives don't like this show", more like this is some divisive shit designed to tear families apart, seems like ppl of either sex who are into this are waaay into it and those who aren't are like wtf are you watching but hey look I'm posting itt again when I swore I wouldn't

don't judge a book by its jpg (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

there are demons and magic zombies right in the first five minutes iirc.

I tuned in a little late lol

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

just to clarify, my point above wasn't "wives don't like this show", more like this is some divisive shit designed to tear families apart, seems like ppl of either sex who are into this are waaay into it and those who aren't are like wtf are you watching but hey look I'm posting itt again when I swore I wouldn't

so basically you are wholly talking out of your ass

I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

One of the cool things about the books is the way the more fantastical elements are gradually introduced.

Number None, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

what else is new

xp

don't judge a book by its jpg (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dinklage seems to be channeling Stewie from the Family Guy at times...

schwantz, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

in fairness, so does Tyrion in the books

I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

One of the cool things about the books is the way the more fantastical elements are gradually introduced.

Like the sound of this

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

hey evan the first 15 minutes are still streaming here

http://www.hbo.com/#/game-of-thrones/about/video/exclusive-preview.html/eNrjcmbO0CzLTEnNd8xLzKksyUx2zs8rSa0oUc-PSYEJBSSmp-ol5qYy5zMXsjGyMXIyMrJJJ5aW5BfkJFbalhSVpgIAXbkXOA

obv I'm not into this show but the opening scene is def worth watching in my wholly-talking-out-my-ass opinion

don't judge a book by its jpg (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

imwtomao

don't judge a book by its jpg (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

Everyone seems to be overacting/over-emoting except for the Tyrion (the dwarf) and Arya. Or are they just 'in character?'

calstars, Thursday, 28 April 2011 02:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

esp. Jon Snow

calstars, Thursday, 28 April 2011 02:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

you leave Jon Snow alone

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 28 April 2011 02:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

You know nothing, Jon Snow

calstars, Thursday, 28 April 2011 02:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Out of curiosity: are there any actual fantastical elements to this world? Cuz it mostly seems like gussied up historical fiction? Aside from non-functional dragon eggs and "dire wolfs," there's been no allusions to anything supernatural or magickal or w/e. Not complaining, mind, just curious as to what marks this as fantasy aside from taking place somewhere made up.

supernatural stuff definitely exists in this series, it's just used sparingly instead of being commonplace so it's a bigger deal when it does show up.

ciderpress, Thursday, 28 April 2011 03:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

You know nothing, Jon Snow

This phrase, in the voice of Roy Dotrice, is spoken often in my house.

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 28 April 2011 03:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Caetlyn totally MILFy, I don't get some of you guys.

Curious about the religion -- should I wonder about historical analogues again, or just think of it as anonymous polytheism?

I am continuing to watch this for the promised lezzing. And the doggies.

NoShoutsNoCalls (Leee), Friday, 29 April 2011 00:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

The northerners have a kind of nature worship thing going on. Guess the southern religion is slightly analogous to Ancient Greece? They have a pantheon anyway.

Number None, Friday, 29 April 2011 00:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

Lena Headey burned through her Sarah Connor goodwill awfully quickly!

NoShoutsNoCalls (Leee), Friday, 29 April 2011 03:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

ws cat.

one dis leads to another (ian), Friday, 29 April 2011 03:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://i54.tinypic.com/25j8hao.jpg

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 1 May 2011 16:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

@MKupperman Game of Thrones is so realistic. They muttered very slowly back then.

Ramen Noodles & Ketchup (R Baez), Sunday, 1 May 2011 16:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

Thoughts about tonight's episode:

- Carcetti was quite good as expected

- Too much digital snow?

- Sylvio excellent and provided welcome comic relief

- Scenes too brief in general

calstars, Monday, 2 May 2011 02:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

could watch Peter Dinklage all day, but then any form of lightness and charm is welcome here.

Gukbe, Monday, 2 May 2011 02:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

hard to balance scene length & the necessity of fitting so much into such a short time, but yes, i imagine people not familiar with the characters may be having trouble keeping everyone's connections straight.

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 2 May 2011 05:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

[Amy Poehler and Seth Meyers come over to tell Martin and his wife what huge fans they are of the show.]
Poehler: I like the blondie! [Daenerys]
Martin: She’s straight out of drama school.
Poehler: You can tell. I think she left all her shirts and bras at drama school.

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, 2 May 2011 08:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

fuckin a

thread assessor (latebloomer), Monday, 2 May 2011 08:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

someone loaned me a screener so i got up to episode six, i guess if youve read the books you know this, but some srs shit goes down

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 2 May 2011 12:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

i mean basically everyone just goes ham

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 2 May 2011 12:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

Haha yes, this is why we were all so excited for this show

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Monday, 2 May 2011 12:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah i guess i gotta read these books now huh

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 2 May 2011 12:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

tbh it's been very faithful to the books so far so it might be a bit deja vu

you do get more insight into many of the characters via internal monologue, particularly Daenerys

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Monday, 2 May 2011 12:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

honestly i might just skip up to the part that i havent watched on HBO yet. mostly i just want to know what happens!!

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 2 May 2011 12:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

Read it anyway, you can skim over whole pages but you should get some more richness from it like stuff about the Starks' religion and more.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 2 May 2011 14:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Now that you know what happens, you know how good we're being by not mentioning ANY OF IT.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 2 May 2011 14:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

no totally its all i can do to not go and read wiki summaries of the next five books cause d-d-d-damn

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 2 May 2011 14:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

re: the northern religion: that was something i was curious about, actually. like in episode two when catelyn gathers ppl to tell them she thinks bran was killed it's just AND THEY'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION IN A WOOD, OKAY, THAT IS WHERE THEY ARE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION

thomp, Monday, 2 May 2011 14:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

That would be lame, max. Go get the books.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 2 May 2011 14:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

AND THEY'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION IN A WOOD, OKAY, THAT IS WHERE THEY ARE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION

yeah this is a whole thing where the north practices this old religion that the south thinks is quaint at best and disloyal at worst, and they have these little patches of forests in their towns with "magic" trees and sometimes they pray to these trees. but their use in the story is mostly just as a place to have whispery conversations.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 2 May 2011 14:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

this show's fun btw but peter dinklage's accent is a travesty and almost unlistenable.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 2 May 2011 14:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

I sort of feel that way about Hugh Laurie on House

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Monday, 2 May 2011 14:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

What? That's crazy talk. I think his Laurie's accent is great!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 2 May 2011 14:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

hugh laurie will always be bertie wooster to me and it was hard getting used to him pretending to be american but i thought his accent was pretty good and at least he didn't sound like a weird 9th grader doing shakespeare

difficult listening hour, Monday, 2 May 2011 14:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

n.b. that was not a mean joke about peter dinklage's stature

just his accent

difficult listening hour, Monday, 2 May 2011 14:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

I remember feeling like the Northerners' religion was going to play a part at some point but GRR STOPPED PUBLISHING BOOKS BEFORE I COULD FIND OUT. So it's worth really reading about it.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 2 May 2011 14:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

i just pre-ordered 'a dance with dragons', actually. but there's still at least a month and a half in which i could cancel it.

thomp, Monday, 2 May 2011 14:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

And isn't there some sub-sub-story where Catelyn's own beliefs are different because she's from the South so there's some complicated thing where she's loyal to her husband's religion but also still has her own?

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 2 May 2011 14:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

I guess the show kind of barely whispered that to us when she hung the wreath over Bran's bed but I was distracted by someone in the room with me making fun of the crafted wreath and dolls.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 2 May 2011 14:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think dinklage's accent stands out because the show's sort of avoided the typical posh for lords, cockney for commoners thing you see with fantasy sometimes - i like all the northern accents you get with winterfell, the freakin lord of winterfell is from sheffield. i think dinklage is doing fine at what he's going for even if it's rather broad, and so is hugh laurie - accents dont have much to do w/acting anyway, and the Dink is stealing every scene he's in

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, 2 May 2011 17:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

i like all the northern accents you get with winterfell, the freakin lord of winterfell is from sheffield.

yeah this is great!

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 2 May 2011 17:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

The episodes are getting better and better.

The old lady's scary story was amazing.

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Monday, 2 May 2011 17:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

I remembered that some people in here seemed to like Rome and just saw on FB that you can now watch full eps on HBO GO. Doesn't actually mean much to me since I don't know what HBO GO is but some of you might and thought you may be interested.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 2 May 2011 17:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

already started reading the first book, can't wait a week to find out what happens next

dink's accent is so hammy

cozeny mubarak (cozen), Monday, 2 May 2011 17:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

think the series is p.faithful so far, except the imp is described as being mucb more ghastly in the book. dinklage is too handsome

cozeny mubarak (cozen), Monday, 2 May 2011 17:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

the hound also seems too normal-looking. otoh all the 14-year-olds being 20-plus seems more of a problem.

thomp, Monday, 2 May 2011 17:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah they aged all the kids up by 5+ years for the show so that they could use adult actors for the older ones. probably a good move given some of the content.

ciderpress, Monday, 2 May 2011 18:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

really loving this, tbh

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 2 May 2011 18:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

The old lady's scary story was amazing.

im just about done with this book but this was my favorite part. and there's more in the novel as well.

ryan, Monday, 2 May 2011 18:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

I don't notice the accents at all. Is that because I'm American?

calstars, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 00:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

max later books in the series go ham X infinity

coo coo khal (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 00:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

i went to the bookstore today and they only had got in hardcover. gonna try another bookstore tomorrow

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 00:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

are you finding things understandable as someone who hasn't read the books? cuz i think it moves too fast sometimes

coo coo khal (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 00:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

b/c as ham as everyone has gone by episode 6 in the hbo series i can only see further ham-going from there

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 00:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

xp i mean the basic mechanisms of the plot i can follow, yeah; and the backstory i get the broad strokes of--the mad king and all that--but theres a ton of little stuff w/r/t past alliances and former enemies and that kind of thing that just flies by. not that i mind, its more fun that way i think.

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 00:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

Watching the show has the appeal of stuffing delicious cookies into your mouth YOM YOM AHARHGGYOM-style, paced only by the fact that you get a dozen cookies at once and have to wait a week for the next dozen.

Reading the books is like getting 4x as many cookies but only one at a time and you have to take actual bites.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 00:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

you dont get to actually SEE all the doggy-style sex when you read the books, too

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 00:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

That is a blessing in disguise. If anything, I think characters are coming across as TOO likeable in the shows, because they're over-the-top or funny or sympathetic in some way. Without all the golden hair and wry grins and soulful glances, you can really get your teeth into the hate.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 00:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

but theres a ton of little stuff w/r/t past alliances and former enemies and that kind of thing that just flies by. not that i mind, its more fun that way i think.

― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, May 2, 2011 7:47 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark

agreed that its more fun. i'm all for savoring the atmosphere, but i kinda like how breakneck things are going right now, and am stoked for the madness

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

shit gets pretty raw dude

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

tight

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

I am very much looking forward to all this upcoming ham

Clay, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

that's enough thanks

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

Read the books!

I'm jealous that Max has seen 6 eps. I'm so used to watching stuff on DVD or netflix or whatever that I get impatient having to wait a WHOLE WEEK until the next one. hmpf.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

cosign x1000

i sorta hate weekly shows now because i really prefer to do my serial watching in like 6 hour binges

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

telling us who survives also counts as a spoiler people

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

x-post - Yep.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

the bad thing about the screeners i watched is that they are unfinished cuts w/out a lot of the special effects, there are some hilarious moments where everyone is supposed to be awed by the wall or whatever and the screen just says VFX TK or whatever

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

Whoops! I'll ask a mod to delete my post

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

thx brah

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 02:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

the bad thing about the screeners i watched is that they are unfinished cuts w/out a lot of the special effects, there are some hilarious moments where everyone is supposed to be awed by the wall or whatever and the screen just says VFX TK or whatever

Ok I have seen the wall but no ones even mentioned whatever. cut it out u jerk

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 02:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

Arya's dueling lesson == would watch an hour of.

NoShoutsNoCalls (Leee), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 04:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Like that sword master is like mesmerizing.

NoShoutsNoCalls (Leee), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 04:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

found borat the swordmaster really lame. carcetti's accent is a bit wonky.

liking it in general tho...

Will.Have.Known (Local Garda), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 23:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha the Bob Ross swordmaster scene was my fav... that dude was outta control!!!

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 00:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

carcetti's accent is a bit wonky.

Yeah, him and Dinklage. Americans, huh?

NoShoutsNoCalls (Leee), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 04:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

tbh I have no idea what Gillen really sounds like. is it a heavy Irish accent?

Gukbe, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 04:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

Gillen's Irish accent is also kinda weird. He just talks funny

Number None, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 07:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

I love Dinklage's accent. He sounds like Michael Howard.

Alba, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 07:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

finally watched new ep <3 <3 it's getting exciting already! Leee otm, could watch Arya sword fight all day! She's so great. Hope we get more of Jon and the wall boys, that whole set is just so perfect, makes me reach for my blanket every time.

And I have mad love for Benjin...he's so perfect. Bit Timothy Daltony but still has that poise and mystique.

Carcetti is not nailing the accent at all. May as well drop it and go full Baltimore.

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 5 May 2011 05:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Benjen, oops

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 5 May 2011 05:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

it's not even just the actual accent, it's the way he is speaking, really weird and overpronounced. maybe he's having probs with it and trying hard.

Phelan Nulty (Local Garda), Thursday, 5 May 2011 10:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/uSrbU.jpg

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 5 May 2011 12:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

I am just glad the series is capturing exactly how awesome Arya is; also I am surprised at how much more sympathy I have for Sansa so far on screen as opposed to this point in the books.

I was afraid the actress who plays Cersi was on the verge of veering off into being terrible but it looks like she is really owning the sexy viper inherent in the character; Jamie OTOH has basically been perfect from the get-go.

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Thursday, 5 May 2011 13:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah am feeling Cersei now after her one on one with Joffrey

and Catelyn is pretty great now that I've had time to warm to her; the goodbye bw her and Ned was <3

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 5 May 2011 14:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

I was afraid the actress who plays Cersi was on the verge of veering off into being terrible but it looks like she is really owning the sexy viper inherent in the character

She was Sarah Connor! No way she could be terrible.

NoShoutsNoCalls (Leee), Friday, 6 May 2011 03:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

she kept having the same facial expression for a couple of episodes, i was initially troubled also

VegemiteGrrl, Friday, 6 May 2011 04:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

ahahahah @ p.tamtam's post

otm

smh (cozen), Friday, 6 May 2011 06:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

PS I read that the actress who plays Arya is IRL right-handed but is sword-fighting left-handed. I ought to be resentful of someone who's awesome and one-third my age, but no.

NoShoutsNoCalls (Leee), Saturday, 7 May 2011 06:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

she fights left-handed in the book, too

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Saturday, 7 May 2011 12:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

btw i am 100 pages away from the end of the first book

shit

is

nuts

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Saturday, 7 May 2011 12:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

i am warming to dinklage because of his facial expressions.

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 7 May 2011 13:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

he makes a very good tyrion, i think

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Saturday, 7 May 2011 13:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

did i already post this thing i made

http://i.imgur.com/z8kRE.jpg

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Saturday, 7 May 2011 13:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

btw i am 100 pages away from the end of the first book

:D

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Saturday, 7 May 2011 13:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

ha scones

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Saturday, 7 May 2011 13:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

i spent like 20 minutes on it ok guys

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Saturday, 7 May 2011 13:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

i feel like ppl arent properly appreciating it

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Saturday, 7 May 2011 13:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

it says SCONES

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Saturday, 7 May 2011 13:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

IT'S MAKING ME HUNGRY

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Saturday, 7 May 2011 13:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

the idea and the execution are sublime. i can't believe one person was responsible for both.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 7 May 2011 13:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

thanks bro

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Saturday, 7 May 2011 14:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

i didnt know you did that yourself man, gj

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 7 May 2011 14:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

i just wanted your approval

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Saturday, 7 May 2011 14:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Saturday, 7 May 2011 14:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

anyone got a rough idea of which chapter in the book we're upto in the tv series?

smh (cozen), Saturday, 7 May 2011 15:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

were about a third of the way through, tho i think the danaerys story arc is moving faster in the tv series

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Saturday, 7 May 2011 15:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

my roommate is reading these books now too. shit is intense.

one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 7 May 2011 20:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

I curse my lack of cable and terrible internet connection. How long do these things take to come out on DVD? Please don't tell me that Martin has to oversee the DVD release because he doesn't have have time for this, I say.

brownie, Saturday, 7 May 2011 20:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

btw there is a knight named hosteen in the books, i lol every time

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Saturday, 7 May 2011 20:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

I usually don't get the DTs with tv shows, but dammit next episode l34k already!!!

NoShoutsNoCalls (Leee), Monday, 9 May 2011 00:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

Also, finish the book, George.

NoShoutsNoCalls (Leee), Monday, 9 May 2011 00:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

he did

ignore the man behind the parentheses (remy bean), Monday, 9 May 2011 00:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

Errr, finish the series, HBO.

NoShoutsNoCalls (Leee), Monday, 9 May 2011 00:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

this show is rilly great

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 9 May 2011 17:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Confirmation that even my wife, who has never read a sentence of the books, is hooked: at the final scene she shouted out, "we have to wait another WEEK for the next episode? Fuck you HBO". I lolled heartily, she has no idea what she is in store for.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 9 May 2011 17:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

is this show suspenseful? i can't tell.

raggett doll, livin' in a rovi (some dude), Monday, 9 May 2011 17:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

The ending of this week's was pretty suspenseful, particularly for someone new to the story.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 9 May 2011 17:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

Very fun show.

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Monday, 9 May 2011 17:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

The jousting scene was the BEST!

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Monday, 9 May 2011 17:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

^^^^ totally lived up to my expectation

and Catelyn's ambush in the tavern at the end played out beautifully

Samwell is A+, they cast him well. I love the wall boys so much.

VegemiteGrrl, Monday, 9 May 2011 17:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

welp i just finished the first book

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 9 May 2011 18:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

shit got pretty nuts at the end there

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 9 May 2011 18:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

soooo we're like halfway through the first book, yeah? -ish? should i bother to start reading? it seems long and i don't have ~that~ much free time.

kinda torn between wanting to know NOW exactly how ham it gets and savoring the madness as it unfolds.

btw found the HBO 'guide' to be v helpful in keeping track of who's who

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 9 May 2011 18:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

also kinda dont want to read hundreds of pages of stuff i've just seen

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 9 May 2011 18:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

if ur like me you will end up making free time to read it

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 9 May 2011 18:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

its kinda slow going at first but it really picks up ~200 pages in and its worth it even if youve already seen the tv show

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 9 May 2011 18:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

& its not exactly a "hard read" either, you could finish it over an intense weekend

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 9 May 2011 18:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

hmmmm

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 9 May 2011 18:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

i need a good page-turner

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 9 May 2011 18:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

good thing i live two blocks from a used book store

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 9 May 2011 18:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

DO IT

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Monday, 9 May 2011 19:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

thing is, yer gonna wanna read the second book as soon as the first season of the tv show is over, so you'd better read the first book now so you don't miss anything small..

also, in the book during the jousting scene (from sansa's POV) Sir Hugh is just "some knight from the vale." and his death is less obviously diabolical.

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 9 May 2011 19:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

Didn't strike me as diabolical, but I'm guessing it's cuz the hand went asking questions?

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 9 May 2011 19:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think u mean ser hugh

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 9 May 2011 19:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

Viserys Targaryen is growing on me a bit.

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Monday, 9 May 2011 19:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

I just finished book 1 on sunday...O_O

Found that reading along with the tv show sped me up, because I had a picture of everything, characters etc

VegemiteGrrl, Monday, 9 May 2011 19:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

HODOR

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, 9 May 2011 20:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'd like to claim credit for this one, but actually my girlfriend noticed it(she's a fanatic about the books). If you look at the credits, particularly the animals engraved on the bands around the sun, you'll see that they tell the story of Robert Baratheon's war against the Mad King in Heraldic form... It's a nice geeky touch.

Stone Monkey, Monday, 9 May 2011 20:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

man I think reading might just be worth it to clarify things in the backstory. It took the HBO guide to figure out ~why~ the mad king killed the Starks and why Jaime Lannister wasn't really respected for icing the guy.

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 9 May 2011 20:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

jaime is outright loathed and mocked for killing aerys iirc.

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 9 May 2011 20:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

the books are a little bit more expository but not much--you dont quite get the whole story of the uprising until midway through and even then its partial and in pieces

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 9 May 2011 20:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah they haven't played that up but every man's hand is against Jaime now, because Mad King or no Mad King, Jaime is an oathbreaker.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 9 May 2011 20:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah Jaime's entire fame rests on the fact that he killed his king while he was a sworn member of that king's personal bodyguard. The king in question might have been mad, but that sort of thing is not going to give you a good name with anyone who hears about it. Anything else he does in the future is going to have to be pretty special if he's going to live that down.

Stone Monkey, Monday, 9 May 2011 20:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah. i mean it took me until today to figure out that there WAS a king's guard, and that he was part of it (and why he wore that special armor). normally i'm pretty good about piecing together backstory, but the pace has been pretty quick and it's hard to keep up

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 9 May 2011 21:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

read da books dog. you can always skim the parts you've seen if you get bored.

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 9 May 2011 21:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

evan you wont regret reading the books

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 9 May 2011 21:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

going to the store right now

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 9 May 2011 21:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

I dont think u should read the book gbx

Aerosol, Monday, 9 May 2011 21:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

i do! im canceling ur vote aerosol

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, 9 May 2011 21:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

All those pages? Come on man , just think this through

Aerosol, Monday, 9 May 2011 21:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

not going to read the books now because I like watching the TV show and having no idea what's coming.

I thought the way the king asked the lannister dude how he killed the mad king was pretty telling about the disdain that's felt towards him.

Gukbe, Monday, 9 May 2011 21:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

books are just gay tv programmes

my other username is a finest (cozen), Monday, 9 May 2011 21:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

reading the books has made me even more psyched on watching the tv show

also cozen otm

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 9 May 2011 22:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

thx to cozen bye

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 9 May 2011 22:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

~btw~

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 9 May 2011 22:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

this show has totally made me go back and pick up where i left off amidst book 4

difficult listening hour, Monday, 9 May 2011 23:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

when I first started in with the books I was bored with the endless description of the armor but then i got really into it. i think seeing the "Arms and Armor of the Habsburg Empire" traveling exhibit around the same time raised my interest.

also, the sumptuous meals described made very hungry

brownie, Monday, 9 May 2011 23:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

mark my words gbx, you'll catch yourself saying HODOR for no reason when you're alone

brownie, Monday, 9 May 2011 23:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

truthbomb

VegemiteGrrl, Monday, 9 May 2011 23:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

For all your ASOIAF recipe needs
http://innatthecrossroads.wordpress.com/

Number None, Monday, 9 May 2011 23:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

omg

brownie, Monday, 9 May 2011 23:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

HA!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 9 May 2011 23:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

BTW about to watch this weeks episode - eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 9 May 2011 23:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

week's

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 9 May 2011 23:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

I want max to send me the screeners RIGH NOW

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 02:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

great ep, tho i thought the scene between dany's blonde pervy brother and the concubine chick went on for too long and was really weird. tho i guess they need these expositional scenes to fill in backstory stuff.

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 04:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

You're right, I got a very draggy feeling with that scene too.

VegemiteGrrl, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 04:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

thought last week was better, a whole lot of exposition-dumping this week. About ready to stop meeting new characters and start seeing 'em get into action of some kind (as in the last couple of minutes.)

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 05:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh man that jousting scene was brutal, y'all are bloodthirsty folk. Remind me never to get on your bad sides.

NoShoutsNoCalls (Leee), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 05:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol loving "Why Do They Call You Littlefinger" Arya. Ned Stark is kinda dumb though! Is this the first time we've seen his right-hand man in a speaking capacity?

NoShoutsNoCalls (Leee), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 05:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

Last scene with Lady Cat was some righteousness though.

NoShoutsNoCalls (Leee), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 05:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh man that jousting scene was brutal, y'all are bloodthirsty folk.

Brutal but awsome!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

I kinda couldn't figure out what happened -- was that splinter in the guy's throat from the lance itself, or did it happen when he was falling off the horse?

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

ie: is this a dangerous sport that can lead to your death or is the mountain just a particularly violent and disturbed fighter (as is indicated by Littlefinger's story to Sansa)? Also, why did Littlefinger tell Sansa that story? Was he trying to freak her out?

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

is this a dangerous sport that can lead to your death or is the mountain just a particularly violent and disturbed fighter (as is indicated by Littlefinger's story to Sansa)?

both?

Also, why did Littlefinger tell Sansa that story? Was he trying to freak her out?

to warn her about the cleganes, i think, both the mountain and the hound? in the book the hound tells her the story himself

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

my word, that recipe site

i think i suddenly stopped liking the books the fifth or sixth time someone ate an olive; that, i think, is what did it for me

thomp, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

i. the Mountain's lance slipped under an improperly fastened gorget and impaled him

ii. Littlefinger's motivations for most things he does tend to be rather oblique

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

I got the sense it was more a malfunction than intentional. People seemed pretty horrified and if the Mountain was known for killing his jousting partners presumably they would've known what to expect. Kinda a mirror to the Dothraki festival where they also kill ppl but they're all pretty cool with it. It makes a nice counterpoint that no matter where you are -- among the Dothraki or in the capital city, people are killing other ppl for pretty much no reason. The only difference is the civilized veneer applied in the capital.

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

^ Yeah I thought definite armor malfunction.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sir Hugh was Jon Arryn's squire. Jon Arryn who was Ned Stark suspects was poisoned....

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

how is carcetti?

there are five olive-eating scenes in 'a storm of swords', by the way, and four in 'a feast for crows'; there are additionally four scenes between the two which take place in or proximate to an olive grove, and thirteen situations in which someone's skin is described as 'olive', in four of which it is immediately followed by a reference to the size of their breasts.

thomp, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

olive-eating data for the first two is proving hard to find.

thomp, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

that is an incredibly weird thing to notice. maybe in westeros olives are super plentiful. it's basically forecast: mediterranean in king's landing and south, so presumably they've got a lot of trees or summat.

ignore the man behind the parentheses (remy bean), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

now that i think about it, the real 'reason' littlefinger told that story to sansa is probably that they didnt want to shoot another scene & knew that 'Littlefinger does mysterious shit' would serve in the place of real character motivation - i think it makes way more sense coming from the Hound. in the book he also explains (as a way of mocking Sansa's belief that knights are valorous men whose only interest is in protecting the weak) in that scene that Gregor intentionally tilted at Hugh's weak spot cuz Gregor's just a brutal man who loves to kill

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

it's weird, but the hound is introduced and seems like the most boring notion of a character, & littlefinger seems exactly like what the book needs, but the hound's arc is actually pretty compelling until SPOILER, whereas that of littlefinger quickly reaches the level of 'oh, right, yes, go on then'; hopefully he will get killed off in a really entertaining fashion

bean i think it's an example of the paucity of martin's imagination but i am aware that it's not exactly the silver bullet that's going to convince anyone else -- i just found it incredibly annoying that the books go medieval diet medieval diet medieval diet, & then he decides that westeros is actually the size of a continent, and the books go OLIVES OLIVES OLIVES CHICKPEAS CHICKPEAS

thomp, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

all the olive-eating scenes take place in Dorne dont they? which is basically moorish spain

idk i never noticed the olives as much as, like, salt cod and freakin lemoncakes

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

it's moorish spain if moorish spain was cornwall, yes

thomp, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

i forgot about all those cornish deserts

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

toatlly going to make these: http://innatthecrossroads.wordpress.com/2011/04/11/lemon-cakes-part-2/

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

the tom colicchio game of thrones food truck did lemoncakes too, but the recipe is trickier:

http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/storage/got-lemon-cakes-recipe.pdf

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

dorne is prolly the goofiest the books get w/r/t nineteenth-century-style OMG EXOTIC, although the dothraki put up a good fight

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

like -- what bugs me about the books (apart from the narrative stasis) is that martin wants to have his cake and eat it too as to whether westeros is basically medieval england or whether it's a panopoly of various cultures -- so there's this 70s reader's digest cookbook idea of what people ought to be eating, and the logistics of empire are like the war of the roses when they ought to be like rome, and people in an area the size of south america have been speaking one language for six thousand years, before which there were two languages

ha i don't even think he even had the idea that dorn was going to be full of desert and shit until he was halfway through the second book, though

thomp, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

their foods are spicy... the women spicier!!!

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

reading the books made me realize i'm some kind of marxist after all, because it pisses me off how just totally bored martin is by "the smallfolk" and by any aspect of history that isn't the part where whispery eunuchs poison heirs in the west wing. i read an interview with him where he was like "i'm into history, but lol not the boring parts" and like oh you mean the relevant parts, dickhead

totally having fun watching this though

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

x-post lol

yeah that recipe might be a little too complex for my remedial baking skills - could prob handle the other tho.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

where whispery eunuchs poison heirs in the west wing

this phrase is awesome! i want to embroider it on a sampler

thomp, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

(in the third book there's a bunch of tyrion/littlefinger/whoever stuff involving how much "coin" the "realm" has, and it's really basic and trivial and like someone eating their vegetables: "i guess there should be some administrative intrigue here but ugh why can't people get raped over grain prices")

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

x-post yeah it is

DLH you're a very good writer even on a msgbrd. I can't imagine what you write like elsewhere.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

some friends say not as well!

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think hes more curious about it than you let on dlh - there's an entire POV in AFFC that's dedicated to just showing how devastated the commoners are by the wars being waged by all these narcissistic aristocrats (and from what i can tell the fans hated him for it) - i mean hes definitely more interested in the ~lords & ladies~ type stuff but i will give him credit if he concludes the series (heh) in a way that questions these power structures, because from a certain perspective basically everyone in the books is a villain

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

there's an entire POV in AFFC that's dedicated to just showing how devastated the commoners are by the wars being waged by all these narcissistic aristocrats

was afraid someone would say this cuz i haven't finished this one. but this is cool and makes sense; one of the neat things about him not planning the story from the beginning is his interests/priorities/style can shift.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

i've read it and i don't know which one he means tbh. but the entire plotline with the brotherhood of the thingummy (i hope this is loose enough to not be considered a spoiler) is at least vaguely concerned with all of that, i suppose -- but in the vague-received-idea-of-robin-hood way, not the how-does-robin-hood-actually-function way

thomp, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

reading the books made me realize i'm some kind of marxist after all, because it pisses me off how just totally bored martin is by "the smallfolk" and by any aspect of history that isn't the part where whispery eunuchs poison heirs in the west wing. i read an interview with him where he was like "i'm into history, but lol not the boring parts" and like oh you mean the relevant parts, dickhead

totally having fun watching this though

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, May 10, 2011 11:19 AM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha otm i keep waiting for a collectivist religious movement or something and it never comes.

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

i've read it and i don't know which one he means tbh. but the entire plotline with the brotherhood of the thingummy (i hope this is loose enough to not be considered a spoiler) is at least vaguely concerned with all of that, i suppose -- but in the vague-received-idea-of-robin-hood way, not the how-does-robin-hood-actually-function way

― thomp, Tuesday, May 10, 2011 11:38 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

i will respond to this in the book thread so i can talk spoilers

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah zip it up in this piece guys

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

sort of enjoying this tho it is kinda confusing still, perhaps i am dense (or stultified by having to ffwd the six ad breaks per show that sky atlantic has) but i feel like it keeps mentioning characters and i'm like "who..", i guess this always happens at the start of these shows, i should prob read the character guide...

Phelan Nulty (Local Garda), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 17:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

This may seem like a silly solution but I've found reading Sepinwell + AV Club's reviews of the show has helped with characters + events that confused me the first time through. Might be worth checking them out just to clarify everything you saw in an episode.

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 17:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

I've been watching this with my flatmate who hasn't read the books and he literally doesn't know a single character's name. Don't blame him though.

Number None, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 17:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

HBO has a very handy viewers guide

http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 17:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

boardgame

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/6472/a-game-of-thrones

brownie, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 17:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

"You rolled a 6! Disrobe."

VegemiteGrrl, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 18:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

here is a detailed summary of the books if you are confused. problem is you might end up with spoilers if you unwittingly read too far

http://www.towerofthehand.com/books/guide.html

brownie, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 18:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

"You rolled a 6! Disrobe."

lol

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 18:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

two 1s=you must sleep with your twin sister

Phelan Nulty (Local Garda), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 18:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

"A pair of threes: whore it up"

VegemiteGrrl, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 19:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

i tried playing the ccg based on game of thrones once; it was kind of tedious but intersting. i think once ya got the hang of it/bought enough good cards it could be fun.

one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 20:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

okay, so i watched the first four episodes over the last couple days, never having read any of the books (i did like martin as a pop sci-fi and horror writer back in the 80s). pretty good, though very slow moving, thankfully light on faux-celtic swords & sorcery bullshit.

couple things:

1) i get that the dothraki are wide ranging barbarians who take tribute in the form of slaves from all over, and that their culture is therefore multiracial (to some extent). fine, but why are the people of the seven kingdoms so uniformly white? do the seven kingdoms form a closed society or one that hasn't traded much with the rest of the world? understand why winterfell, as a fortified outpost run by a single family, might be racially/culturally homogeneous, but i expected king's landing to be more cosmopolitan. do the books address this?

2) so, are people so politically moronic the books? i mean, everybody just seems to flat out announce their intentions when they first meet friends and even enemies. i get why ned, a somewhat slow-witted but basically noble soldier, might not get the nuances of political discretion, but the lannisters, supposedly these devious & sophisticated aristocrats, come across as total fucking idiots, never missing an opportunity to warn everybody around them that they're entirely self-centered and hostile towards any perceived competition.

anyway, it's okay so far, if a bit light on the wonder and creativity i go to fantasy for.

always have time for the crystalline entity (contenderizer), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 03:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

but the lannisters, supposedly these devious & sophisticated aristocrats, come across as total fucking idiots

well, the lannisters you've MET. cersei lannister is meant to be paranoid and shortsighted - she sees herself as a schemer, but all her machinations are transparent and predictable. jaime lannister's a career soldier who doesn't care about anything except fighting and banging his sister.

Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 07:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

okay, that helps

always have time for the crystalline entity (contenderizer), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 07:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

I've totally been getting the impression that Jaime has designs on the throne.

Did Kat plan to bump into the Imp and have him arrested, or was it a spur of the moment thing?

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 15:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

just a coincidence

Number None, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 15:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that's what I thought. Despite a few unclear motivations etc I am really really enjoying this, by the way. People are saying it's slow, but I don't think so at all. I've found almost every scene so far to be compelling, and the production values are superb.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 15:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

The time taken to introduce the characters and setup def pays off once the "game" really gets going

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 16:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://i52.tinypic.com/10y2wlk.gif

Number None, Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

I would like Carcetti to suddenly appear at my side to give me advice at times.

allmypulp, Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

and then tell you he's untrustworthy

Brakhage, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

that gif is great!

Aerosol, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

excellent giffage

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

that gif reminds me of the nymag recaps (which have been great) where margaret lyons points out how creepy and rape-tinged almost every scene is

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/05/game_of_thrones_recap_a_newbie_1.html

she also makes one of my favorite character-based analogies, which is sansa:arya::becky:darlene

Princess TamTam, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

wau @ sansa:arya::becky:darlene

Aerosol, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

i love how it looks like he's being rolled into the shot!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

I can't find a clip but imagine I'm posting, here, the scene from Dead and Loving It in which Dracula's diaphanous henchwomen are revealed to be rolled across the floor on a pull-board.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

where are the dragons

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

why was jousting not any different from earth jousting

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

why is it not monster-fighting time yet

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

I do like this show but can't help but compare its pacing to that of Rome (which I loved so much).

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

Rome was awesome

Princess TamTam, Thursday, 12 May 2011 20:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

^^^^ I miss Rome. Especially the hot older Julie Cooper looking lady.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 May 2011 20:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

I wish this had production values a little more like Rome's, but I guess that's kind of a dead-end considering how much Rome cost.

Princess TamTam, Thursday, 12 May 2011 20:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Julii Cooper iirc

xpost

Gukbe, Thursday, 12 May 2011 20:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

totally nicked that from TWoP now that I think about it

Gukbe, Thursday, 12 May 2011 20:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

god i kinda hated rome :( didn't watch anything beyond the first season.

robyn, a large part of game of thrones's appeal lies in that it is not overtly fantastical. so if you want dragons & elves & wizards & shit you might be a bit disappointed, espesh at first.

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 12 May 2011 20:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

why was jousting not any different from earth jousting

― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:55 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark

they should've been riding big-ass dignified birds

Princess TamTam, Thursday, 12 May 2011 20:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

hella joustin on a big ass dignified bird

Princess TamTam, Thursday, 12 May 2011 20:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

sansa:arya::becky:darlene

yesssssssssssss!!!

I hadn't seen that NY Mag stuff - excited to read. Also, Ian otm re the fantastical elements and everyone except Ian otm regarding Rome. I have the boxset but haven't watched it since it aired originally. Keep meaning to.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 12 May 2011 21:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

read 'hella joustin' as a french name first time around.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 12 May 2011 21:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 12 May 2011 21:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah what happened is that I rewatched the first ep w my brother, who hadn't yet watched GoT, and it's so good, and then as eps go on there are so many hints at 'other-worldly' things yet none have really shown themselves. I'd actually be cool w no dragons n stuff if I didn't feel incessantly taunted about there being dragons n stuff one day maybe if yr good.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Friday, 13 May 2011 14:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

I really like this idea of dragons + fantasy stuff being a part of the vernacular but not really present. It gives a sense not just of a world in its post-wonderous age (this kind of moment after all the heroes have died and this is what remains) but also an analogue to our own culture where these fairy tales and stories are always very prevalent tho clearly these things don't exist. And I imagine that in the War of the Roses era that GoT is based off, there was probably this real sense of magic just off in the corners of society (whether it's mermaid icons on seafaring maps or the Church going after benandanti for being witches). Obviously it's more real here in GoT (where there are remnants of these things -- in people's memories, or in the dragon eggs) than IRL, but still I like this sense of it being absent from the day to day politics that actually run shit.

Mordy, Friday, 13 May 2011 14:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

srsly tho if I'd been the author's editor I would have at least wondered openly to him about jousting scene's relative normalcy.
but I do understand that it's tv and needs to be a bit more sustainable than Rome re budget etc.
xp

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Friday, 13 May 2011 14:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

Obviously you're going to have to be very good this year so we can ALL have dragons, rrrobyn.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Friday, 13 May 2011 14:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

I was thinking along a similar line, yes! The half-forgetting or loss of magic is really interesting. maybe the lighting and line delivery just makes the supernatural lore stuff seem like taunting rather than just nostalgia or a yearning for faith or whatever it might be.
xp

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Friday, 13 May 2011 14:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

hahaaa :)

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Friday, 13 May 2011 14:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

finished the 2nd book yesterday, working on the third as we speak

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Friday, 13 May 2011 15:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

damn!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 13 May 2011 15:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

most fucked up thing in series so far happens in book 3. enjoy!

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 13 May 2011 15:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

oh good

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Friday, 13 May 2011 15:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

i can't wait to hear what you think of storm of swords max. its the craziest book!!!

Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 15:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

ya i was supposed to go out tonight with some friends but.... that might not happen

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Friday, 13 May 2011 15:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

i cannot tell you how excited i was when i looked and there were TWO NEW MAPS in the front

TWO NEW MAPS!!

and the old maps had NEW DETAILS

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Friday, 13 May 2011 15:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

ok just laughed out loud at that dude beheading his horse

Gukbe, Monday, 16 May 2011 01:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

was the loras/renly thing hinted at in the books? I don't remember the gay subtext at all. maybe an addition by HBO?

calstars, Monday, 16 May 2011 02:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

shit got real this week

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Monday, 16 May 2011 04:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

the loras/renly romance is hinted at, but there is absolutely no chest shaving in the books.

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 16 May 2011 04:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

don't understand why daenarys' child is a threat because of the dothraki, but going out and killing the dothraki king's son/wife wouldn't cause recriminations.

Gukbe, Monday, 16 May 2011 04:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah that seemed dumb to me as well

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Monday, 16 May 2011 04:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

danerys having a child will tie the dothraki ppl to Viserys's cause (the reclamation of the throne by the Targaeryens.) Don't see how any possible repercussions (by a people who are afraid to crossing the ocean) is any worse than the foreseen 'dothraki coming to burn our towns' scenario.

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 16 May 2011 04:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh man this is getting fantastic, time for tombot bullets

1. King Fat is like the SADDEST GUY I mean seriously between his first and last dialogue scenes in this ep the dude has basically the absolute worst life on the planet, all this motherfucker has for joy is booze and eats, and he's already the king so he can't even dream except of his own kingdom's dissolution, it is laid out, his life SUCKS

2. My main worry about this piece of teevee is that nothing bad happens for Dinklage. Never mind the character, SPOILERS I know his guy outlasts most of the rest END SPOILERS I just want our man in the small costumes to get through the whole series. I mean if I was a betting man Tyrion would be the eventual benevolent dictator and pops to some kinda westeros republic, but to do that right, P.D. needs to survive to be in his fifties, little men are high insurance, anxiety happens.

3. DUDE the monologue about five vs. one is GREAT. Oh shit now it's every man for himself in the seven kingdoms? What? Libertarianism happened and now you have to worry about everyone who's not a libertarian coming after number one with a halberd! This show just got political. LOL RON PAUL, tell me how you would deal with a horde of horse lords.

4. Carcetti is an extraordinarily unboring agent of wordy exposition. I'm excited to see where Prezbo and Marlo show up. There ought to be some room for black Wire alumni in all this, I mean, they did it for Thor.

El Tomboto, Monday, 16 May 2011 05:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

tombot let me just say that it's a pleasure to see you and i'm glad you're on-board for this shit.

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 16 May 2011 05:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

also re point 3, Robert is being fairly practical--of course if there's an invasion he can't have his lords fighting their own wars with one another--his lack of a unified military seems to be a big problem for him, so much that he seems to take it a personal defect.

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 16 May 2011 05:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

to the daenarys/dothraki threat question:

If she bears an heir to the dothraki, that heir means a claim to ALL OF THE SHIT EVERYWHERE

If she is killed with her child, in the usual poisonous fashion, prior to the child's coming of age, then that represents WHOOPS OH WELL, try again with a real horse lady, stick to what you know.

Frankly the fact that she is alive and well overseas means little - the fact that she is bedding down with a high ranking army commander means that she may command terrifying leverage. It's all about risk, like a sixteen year picking up carpool rides versus a sixteen year old piloting a brand new Superleggera.

El Tomboto, Monday, 16 May 2011 05:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah loras/renly threw me for a loop though. nice touch

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 May 2011 05:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

also re point 3, Robert is being fairly practical--of course if there's an invasion he can't have his lords fighting their own wars with one another--his lack of a unified military seems to be a big problem for him, so much that he seems to take it a personal defect.

Oh I don't disagree with his pragmatism. I'm just pointing out that his status and approach is due to the fact that he finds himself in charge of a libertarian wet dream, the "accidental democracy" where he's been put in charge only so far as he's not pissing off anybody else too much, and unification is beyond his imagination.

If he were clever instead of just being depressed all the time, he would encourage the Dothraki threat (maybe even fund it) because a clear and present foe would provide him the opportunity he needs to unify the kingdoms and prove his worth as an emperor.

I realize this is all already said and done in made-up books by a fat dork. Still.

El Tomboto, Monday, 16 May 2011 05:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

I keep forgetting how O_O these books are: the breastfeeding weirdo prince, the horse beheading...

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 May 2011 05:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

breasfeeding Prince Robert is one of the creeeeepiest and most unsettling things to me.

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 16 May 2011 05:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

If he didn't turn that shit up to eleven his books wouldn't be an HBO money pit starring people who have starred in other real stuff

El Tomboto, Monday, 16 May 2011 05:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

well yeah, but I guess getting caught up in the reading of it you forget how freaky-deaky it all is..I honestly dont think of the books like that, but they are

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 May 2011 05:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

and it's pretty much "abandon all hope etc etc" for any horselovers from now on...kinda downhill from here

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 May 2011 05:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

I forgot about the breastfeeding and have been dreading Lysa Arran's appearance since the very first episode where Catelyn reads her letter, but seriously how psychologically scarred is that child actor going to be?

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

Also, those cliffside cells in the Eyrie are WAY too climb-able on the outside. There should be perfectly smooth stone joinery and about 50' more of sheer wall above instead of some nice brick arches and a convenient rooftop.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

i spent the whole episode wondering if that kid was sucking on her real boob or if they made some kind of fake boob

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

i did think the show did a great job of showing how unstable lysa arryn is and how creepy the eyrie/vale are

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

It has to be fake because otherwise hello, is this Child Protective Services?

Also because it's way too...full to be natural.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

they made a fake boob

the fact that the kid had a milk moustache was a... nice touch

public anime #1 (Princess TamTam), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

it was rad that they put the trapdoor on the floor instead of the wall

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

i wonder if HBO has a bunch of prosthetics left over from Tell Me You Love Me

suggest ban the subbest man (some dude), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

says a lot about how ott the whole episode was that nobody's even mentioned the full frontal wang yet

suggest ban the subbest man (some dude), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

I don't know how I feel about the Door of the Moon or whatever it's called. I liked it being in the wall, more of a head-fuck when it turns out to be a door to no-where.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ian, doesn't Renly look an amazing amount like Mike C@mpb3ll from the MNDC?

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXGZcBlLcGE

the guy on the right is Bronn http://i.imgur.com/WKuCI.gif

public anime #1 (Princess TamTam), Monday, 16 May 2011 15:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RgOm_WJKpE

Just found out Alfie Allen is playing Theon Greyjoy on Game of Thrones.. Weed is Coming.
Sky2Hi2Hold 9 hours ago

public anime #1 (Princess TamTam), Monday, 16 May 2011 15:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

have seen fake boob lady cutting about glasgow

taylor, the creator (cozen), Monday, 16 May 2011 19:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

also this show rules

taylor, the creator (cozen), Monday, 16 May 2011 19:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

enjoyed Ned & Jaime swordfight, wish it had been a little longer

kinda bummed they took out the climb up to the Eyrie...I mean, pacing wise I understand, but it added to the weird flavor of that place

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 May 2011 19:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

kinda bummed they took out the climb up to the Eyrie...I mean, pacing wise I understand, but it added to the weird flavor of that place

― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, May 16, 2011 2:51 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah really wanted to see the weird system of elevators

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 May 2011 20:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

this ep was good shit, but i'm not call it ham until someone 'major' dies unexpectedly

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 16 May 2011 23:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

When a horse gets its head chopped off, that's ham to me.

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Monday, 16 May 2011 23:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

if they hew as closely to the books as they have so far, the season finale is going to own so hard

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 16 May 2011 23:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

and it will be all kinds of O_O

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 May 2011 23:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

:D

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 May 2011 23:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

Definitely the best episode so far, quite possibly because it had the most added scenes. Felt a lot less stiff.

Number None, Monday, 16 May 2011 23:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

need more Arya

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 May 2011 23:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

She's probably had as much screen time as anyone!

Number None, Monday, 16 May 2011 23:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

i am greedy, she is my favorite :)

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 May 2011 23:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think part of the reason this ep worked so well was that it pretty much stuck to action in king's landing and the eyrie; brief visit to winterfell, no dothraki stuff, no wall stuff. not that i don't really like the stuff on the wall, but to keep shifting the scene does take some momentum out of each episode.

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 16 May 2011 23:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah i agree. It is a problem in a show with so many characters in disparate locations.

Number None, Monday, 16 May 2011 23:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

every time arya is on screen i think, as if for the first time, "wow, you are a terrible actress"

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

:I

anime hitler, the futanari führer (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

Whaaa? I think she's great!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's interesting that you say that and this is followed up by Treme. Just thinking about how Simon has to force himself to write really tight "anecdote" scenes to pack in all the people and situations he wants to do; Thrones, being all notional period stuff and supposedly needing that much more exposition, has to abbreviate a lot and yet still ends up spending probably far too much time in each set

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

That was to ian, you crossposting fuckers

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

xxpost to rogermexico: cut your throat, traitor! raaaaghhh! (run at you sword aloft)

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

Arya is too pretty. In the book they keep calling her horse-faced.

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 03:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

eh, martin kind of softens it, shes supposed to look like bryanna stark, who is supposed to be beautiful

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 03:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

or whatever neds sister was called

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 03:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

lyanna

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 03:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

the poor horse!!

Phelan Nulty (Local Garda), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 13:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

(does anyone think the horse is ned stark)

Phelan Nulty (Local Garda), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 13:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

When a horse gets its head chopped off, that's ham to me.

― reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Monday, May 16, 2011 7:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

remind me to never have dinner at your house

some dude, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 14:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol

just sayin, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 14:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

most fucked up thing in series so far happens in book 3. enjoy!

― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, May 13, 2011 11:07 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

:(

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 14:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

most fucked up thing in series so far happens in book 3. enjoy!

― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, May 13, 2011 11:07 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this really is pretty brutal

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 14:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

aww that's years away. guess i'll have to read the books.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 14:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah i had to put the book down. i am "processing it."

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 14:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

i guess i'm on board with this now, to the point where i just frustrate my way through the series-prolonging bits of useless exposition by looking forward to the next cool bit of business with tyrion or arya or w/e. that stephen king-style soap opera plotting, where you get a bunch of disparate threads going, and don't really have to advance any of them much, cuz suspense takes over whenever you're away from the most appealing characters. hope this continues long enough to see the current cast and plot threads completely upended.

contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

just finished the third book after marathon reading sesh, goddamn some crazy shit happens

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

^_^ yes, yes it does

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

The prospect of watching the crazy shit happen on the TV show after having read it alraedy and BEING STUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SERIES AS IT IS...it's like I'm hanging on two cliffs at once, and frankly it's exhausting.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

i mean like holy shit. i sort of wonder if the showrunners at hbo are plotting everything out or just taking it one season at a time

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

That said, I re-purchased the trade version of Book 2 yest so I can re-read. lol @ self

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

halfway through book 2
ILX is lucky to make the grade, I may quit life just to read READ READ

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 21:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

1/4 of the way through the fourth book and i am beginning to see why ppl are so frustrated with martin. the iron islands?? who gives a shit about this??? are the dornishmen italian or like turkish or what?? how are they even on the same continent???????

also he loves courtly intrigue but he doesnt really seem to care about actual politics? there are at least 3 major institutions (the citadel, the septons, and the nights watch) in the 7 kingdoms that would irl be big non-aristocratic power bases but instead they are totally apolitical??? chyeah right

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

still this guy can plot an epic fantasy like a m-f'er

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

at this pace he should be done in 10 years, right? its like 5 years between each book?

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

Well, he BETTER be done in, let's see (my guess at the HBO schedule):
1 year for GoT.
1 year for CoK
2 years for SoS
1 year for FFC
2 years for DoD

So he has 5 years (need a year lead-time for production) to get the 2nd to last book done, and then 1 or two years for the last book.

So 5-7 years, I guess.

schwantz, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

theyre gonna need to hurry up some of those seasons if they want to make sure the kids dont age

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

you guys really think HBO will keep this thing going for 7 seasons??

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

I expect some condensation of the story; also I expect that after this season they will just shoot continually to avoid aging issues with the kids

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

The viewership has been climbing every week, so the outlook is pretty good:

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/05/17/game-of-thrones-ratings-climb/

polyphonic, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

although onset of puberty could be a neat explanation for some things later on

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

hope those kids end up being good ass actors, at any rate

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

its funny reading this knowing that its a tv show too -- it kind of makes sense actually, esp. given that martin's background is in tv writing. the last few chapters of every book have a very "hbo season finale" feeling

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

so i think i just figured something out

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

but i won't post it because if i'm right it'll be spoil-y

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

also is it sad that i'm actually like "aw sweet i have years of entertaining television to look forward to"

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

Not sad! You could post your theory in one of the book threads, but then you would get a spoilered...

schwantz, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

also he loves courtly intrigue but he doesnt really seem to care about actual politics? there are at least 3 major institutions (the citadel, the septons, and the nights watch) in the 7 kingdoms that would irl be big non-aristocratic power bases but instead they are totally apolitical??? chyeah right

― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, May 18, 2011 5:19 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

also thinking about this -- during the targaeryns reign there was no other political force besides the targaeryns, because they had dragons, and no one else did. and so the context of the books is sort of "the fall of the house targaeryn," and the scramble for power vacuum to be filled, and martin is obviously on-point w/ the way aristocrats jockey for power. and hes _almost_ there toward books 3 and 4 in terms of showing the political power of the nights watch, not to mention the political power of religion w/r/t the (possible spoiler?) lord of light. but i still feel like hes not really grasping the way these institutions would actually wield power. like lol you think the maesters are really going to spend their lives "serving" for thousands of years? you mean, the only guys on westeros who know how to heal people and read? hmm sure

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think the maesters are a bunch of ineffectual academics/advisors who have advanced as far as capable under a fairly strict caste system.

remy bean, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

also he loves courtly intrigue but he doesnt really seem to care about actual politics? there are at least 3 major institutions (the citadel, the septons, and the nights watch) in the 7 kingdoms that would irl be big non-aristocratic power bases but instead they are totally apolitical??? chyeah right

― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, May 18, 2011 5:19 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark

w/o spoiling anything, the septons & citadel are totally political

we should take this to the feast for crows thread though, which is where all the booktalk seems to congregate:

Anticipating "A Feast For Crows" by George R. R. Martin (Nov. 9)

anime hitler, the futanari führer (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

i havent finished book4 yet tho

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 22:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

I just borrowed GoT from a friend. Apparently I am committing my life to something.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 23:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

You will be able to construct a full set of armor and livery from memory by the tine you're through. It's the McCall's dressmaking pattern book of the middle ages.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 19 May 2011 02:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Time, goddammit

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 19 May 2011 02:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Construct the armor, tine by tine you meant.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 19 May 2011 02:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

sew, construct, et al

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 19 May 2011 03:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

Also forge thineself a fine blade

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 19 May 2011 03:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

1/4 of the way through the fourth book and i am beginning to see why ppl are so frustrated with martin. the iron islands?? who gives a shit about this??? are the dornishmen italian or like turkish or what?? how are they even on the same continent???????

yesssssssssssssssssss

also i have never had Deep Thoughts about the maesters mainly because whenever i see that spelling i want to punch myself in the eyes. how are they pronouncing it in the show?? IMPORTANT PERIOD DETAILS

thomp, Thursday, 19 May 2011 09:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

Aren't the Dornish a different race to the Andals who make up the majority of the population of Westeros?

Number None, Thursday, 19 May 2011 09:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

They're pronouncing maester how it looks

Number None, Thursday, 19 May 2011 09:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

there is no way of doing that in modern english orthography. don't be unhelpful.

thomp, Thursday, 19 May 2011 10:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ok it's mayster then

Number None, Thursday, 19 May 2011 10:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

well that's wrong

thomp, Thursday, 19 May 2011 10:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

and obviously this is the single detail upon which the whole fiction loses its credibility and falls apart

thomp, Thursday, 19 May 2011 10:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

kind of like the obsessive attention to olives?

remy bean, Thursday, 19 May 2011 10:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

i don't see why the rest of you won't recognise the importance of these things

thomp, Thursday, 19 May 2011 10:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

Language is clearly something Martin isn't too bothered about (which is kind of a relief after so many crappy post-Tolkien efforts)

Number None, Thursday, 19 May 2011 10:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

i guess what bothers me about dorne is less the culture or language stuff and more that there is a DESERT there. the place is 1/3 the size of the entire north and it has three distinct land types, each with its own special kind of dornishmen??

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Thursday, 19 May 2011 11:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

they're densely packed, like sardines or pygmys.

remy bean, Thursday, 19 May 2011 11:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

tbh i am sort of "working out" my issues w/ martin w/r/t the fucked up shit that happens in book 3. still kind of mad at him.

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Thursday, 19 May 2011 11:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

i should prob read these huh

i tried once and it didn't take

goole, Thursday, 19 May 2011 16:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

or maybe that was wheel of time, heh

goole, Thursday, 19 May 2011 16:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

got to the bit in the fourth book where it is explained why i should give a shit about the iron islands. i take it back! i love you george!!

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Thursday, 19 May 2011 16:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

Wow, working from home must leave you a lot of time to read. I'm not even though Book 2 and I started it on Monday night.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 19 May 2011 16:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

ha, yeah, plus its been so rainy this week, no reason not to just plow through

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Thursday, 19 May 2011 16:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

when are we all gonna get together and play the boardgame?

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 19 May 2011 16:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

there's a board game...?

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Thursday, 19 May 2011 16:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

game of boards

goole, Thursday, 19 May 2011 16:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

zomg why did I not know about this earlier, we could have shot the pieces with BB guns while drinking malort at jjj's bachelor party

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Thursday, 19 May 2011 16:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3374/3312777505_a59c2c6848.jpg

problem is, everyone's gonna wanna be the starks, right?

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 19 May 2011 17:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

HOLY SHITBALLS

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 19 May 2011 17:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

Lannisters have Tyrion tho

Number None, Thursday, 19 May 2011 17:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

Can I be the Black Watch?

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 19 May 2011 17:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

good question, but i doubt it since they do not interfere in matters of the realm? otoh, it would be cool also be the wildlings.

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 19 May 2011 18:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

I want to be mad king rhaegar, and use the monopoly guy as a token.

remy bean, Thursday, 19 May 2011 18:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

Black Watch protect all the kingly babies from the big bad so they better be in the game >:(

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 19 May 2011 18:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://arrestedwesteros.tumblr.com/

Peyton Flanders (Nicole), Thursday, 19 May 2011 18:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

Not to be a pedant or anything (screw it this is the GOT thread) but they're called the Night's Watch.

Number None, Thursday, 19 May 2011 18:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

sorry I brain farted on the name

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 19 May 2011 18:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

gross

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Thursday, 19 May 2011 18:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

have you never heard of a brain fart before?!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 19 May 2011 18:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

Pretty sure Dan's heard of a brain fart before.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 19 May 2011 18:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol

that was a pitiful attempt of a joke

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Thursday, 19 May 2011 18:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://arrestedwesteros.tumblr.com/

― Peyton Flanders (Nicole), Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:37 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol reading the books for some reason i imagine portia de rossi as cersei

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Thursday, 19 May 2011 18:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

i really had catelyn pictured as robin wright penn

Blink 187um (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 May 2011 02:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

I like that ...she would be good. Am warming to Cat now though.

And I'm growing more fond of Sarah Connor Chronicles not-terminator lady as Cersei...at first it seemed like she had one facial expression and just kept tilting her head from side to side but I'm seeing it a bit more now, the Cersei-ness of her

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 20 May 2011 04:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

that kind of sad conversation she and robert had about their marriage really went a long way to humanizing her

Blink 187um (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 21 May 2011 00:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

definitely

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 May 2011 00:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

psyched for the inevitable videogame of thrones

taylor, the creator (cozen), Saturday, 21 May 2011 10:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

there's a preview of it in the new pc gamer (us)! looks like a paint by numbers RTS

farty f baby (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 21 May 2011 12:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

i like the game of thrones world but not enough to want to play a videogame/card game about it. mostly i just want to know wtf is happening

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Saturday, 21 May 2011 12:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

btw just wanted to announce in this thread that i finished the first four books, anyone who is considering reading these really should, i dont really like high fantasy and thought these were siiiiick

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Saturday, 21 May 2011 12:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

'high' fantasy, bonghits amirite.

one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 21 May 2011 17:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

ian ill thank u to take ur drug humor elsewhere

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Saturday, 21 May 2011 18:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol ian

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 May 2011 20:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

Weed Is Coming

farty f baby (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 21 May 2011 20:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

howland weed

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Saturday, 21 May 2011 20:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

green dreams iirc

one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 21 May 2011 21:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

so i am 2/3 of the way thru the book and i be like damn

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Saturday, 21 May 2011 22:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

Jesus christ do you all just read extremely quickly or . . . ?

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Saturday, 21 May 2011 23:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

I re-read all four in like a week recently. Shit is addictive.

Number None, Saturday, 21 May 2011 23:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

I could see if that if you don't work or do something where you can read on the job but otherwise that just seems nuts. I might just be a slower reader though. idk.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Saturday, 21 May 2011 23:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

i only started reading in earnest a couple days ago, with the biggest chunk getting knocked out today

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Saturday, 21 May 2011 23:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

I don't work lol

Number None, Sunday, 22 May 2011 00:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm still noodling through bk 2...I'm not always in the mood to read all the time but I try to read at lunchtimes & bed, afternoon on the weekend. sometimed I'll go full tilt & do a book in a day or 2, but slower pace is my norm lately

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 May 2011 00:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

evan if u think 2/3 of book 1 is "damn"........

Just u wait son.

Just u wait

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Sunday, 22 May 2011 01:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

stoked

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Sunday, 22 May 2011 02:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

like i look back on the first book and it feels like a totally different series

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Sunday, 22 May 2011 02:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

holy shit

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Sunday, 22 May 2011 21:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

so basically i need a clash of kings for my kindle asap

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Sunday, 22 May 2011 21:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

like i look back on the first book and it feels like a totally different series

Yeah, the first book is a table setter. A SETTING FOR CROWS.

brownie, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

need more Arya

― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, May 16, 2011 4:47 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This. :\

Didn't care much for this episode tbh for which I had to wait a FULL WEEK to watch so the mounting anticipation might've set me up for a letdown. I usually like the political intrigue stuff but everything kind of felt inert to me, perhaps I'll re-watch the episode in lieu of reading the book.

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Monday, 23 May 2011 00:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

ahahahaha

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 23 May 2011 03:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

cersei one is hilar

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 23 May 2011 03:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha that one's my fav too. that lady makes some crazy fuckin faces

farty f baby (Princess TamTam), Monday, 23 May 2011 03:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

man i wish i had hbo

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 23 May 2011 03:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

her faces are nuts - there's something strange about one of her eyes maybe.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 23 May 2011 03:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

lolll at Varys' little...moue. Does that count as a moue? I've always wondered.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 23 May 2011 03:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

Cersei has a slanty face like this :/

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 23 May 2011 03:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah varys' is my second favorite. i just had to google moue but it looks like it qualifies!!

farty f baby (Princess TamTam), Monday, 23 May 2011 03:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Carcetti has excellent eyebrow skills

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 23 May 2011 03:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

So I see some threads are coming together. DAMN.

Dominique Strauss-Kahn, Rebel IMF (Leee), Monday, 23 May 2011 05:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

Was Dany trying to hatch the dragon egg, or making an omelet, or unconsciously trying to see if she was the Dragon?

Dominique Strauss-Kahn, Rebel IMF (Leee), Monday, 23 May 2011 05:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

hatch, iirc.

Viserys scene in the finale was played perfectly, just how I pictured it.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 23 May 2011 05:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think she was just bored and wanted to see what would happen

farty f baby (Princess TamTam), Monday, 23 May 2011 05:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol "making an omelet"

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 23 May 2011 05:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

last time I try to eat whilst watching this (horse-heart sequence...)

Who was the guy who stood up for Tyrion? white dudes in armor all looking the same to me.

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Monday, 23 May 2011 06:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

that was Bronn, the mercenary who kicked ass & cracked jokes w/Tyrion on the trip up to the Eyrie. He wasn't really wearing armor, just leather, which is partly how he beat a slower knight in full plate.

farty f baby (Princess TamTam), Monday, 23 May 2011 06:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

I want to troll this thread every time I open it

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 23 May 2011 06:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha yeah ):

thomp, Monday, 23 May 2011 09:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Bronn's swordfight was pretty great.

I ate hours before and still almost barfed my cookies with that horse heart scene...also with the bloody mouth I kept thinking of King Diamond, lol http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp201/sharonjoy666/12b42c81.jpg

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 23 May 2011 16:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

Gotta say that they've p deftly compressed a lotta stuff without needless exposition

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 23 May 2011 16:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

I haven't watched it yet but now I'm going to make sure I do so before I eat dinner. I'm not very squeamish that sort of "please I'm eating" stuff doesn't generally effect me but this sounds p bad.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 23 May 2011 16:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

I watched next week's episode and now I'm bummed that I have to wait two weeks for a new one. :(

polyphonic, Monday, 23 May 2011 16:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

wait how did you do that

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 23 May 2011 16:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

via HBO Go

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Monday, 23 May 2011 16:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

i dont have

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 23 May 2011 16:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

me neither

download son

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 23 May 2011 16:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

cant find it :(

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 23 May 2011 16:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

emailing you :)

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 23 May 2011 16:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

ty!

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 23 May 2011 16:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

I could see if that if you don't work or do something where you can read on the job but otherwise that just seems nuts. I might just be a slower reader though. idk.

I read the last book in less than a week, but I did have a job where I could sit and read 9-11 hours a day. (I was reading at the rate of 40-50k a day at the time.)

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 23 May 2011 18:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

Just watched it and holy shit. When the guy mentioned a crown of gold I had a feeling they would go the route of that Roman Governor.

Also I have no access to the seventh episode at the moment as I'm overseas and without a computer so if we can keep discussion of it until it airs properly that would be awesome. Or else I can just avoid the thread until next week.

Gukbe, Monday, 23 May 2011 22:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

omg! amazing. gonna watch this 7th ep now!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 23 May 2011 23:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

holy shit!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 01:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

Goddamn. After watching 6 and 7 my doubts as a fan of the books have pretty much disappeared.

Number None, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 02:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

episode 7 was the best one yet imo

farty f baby (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 02:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

I enjoyed Sansa cutting off the Septa just as she was about launch into a story about where she was from. Reckon that was the writers poking a little fun at themselves. Oh and Tyrion's monologue was hilarious.

Number None, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 03:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

Everything about Tyrion is so great. <3 PD so much in this.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 03:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

sansa is such a bitch to the septa, i felt bad :(

one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 03:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah :(

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 03:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

i love when sansa's like "i dont want someone noble and brave, i want joffrey!" and ned and arya both look like they're gonna crack up

farty f baby (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 03:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

pretty sure also that in the books Tyrion never admits to beating off in the turtle soup.

one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 03:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

that was fantastic

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 03:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

he must have stood on the table to reach the stewpot imo.

one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 03:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

FINALLY THAT WHINY BLOND GOT HIS JUST DESERTS

homosexual II, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 05:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

^^^

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 05:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

Joffrey is the only blonde snot i really wanted to see get his "golden crown".

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 13:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

The way HBO is delving into the Knight of Flowers and Renly's relationship, we may see one of them get a "golden crown" too.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 13:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ahhhh just watched #7 and want to say so much!! Gah.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 00:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah I dug up #7 as well. Aiden Gillen is killing this shit.

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 02:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

Aiden Gillen is killing this shit.

i read this and thought HOLY SHIT BUBBLES IS IN THIS? and googled and discovered this was carcetti, and wondered why i'd been so sure that the guy who played bubbles was named aiden gillen, and then realized that this was because i'd gotten the name from the wire's opening credits and i know a guy named adrian who with an earlier haircut looked a lot like bubbles. i'm just posting this because i was proud of getting to the bottom of it so quickly.

also putting on E5 right now

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 02:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

bubbles IS jalabhar xho

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 02:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

that was exactly what i thought for an exciting moment i'd somehow missed

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 02:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah that guy is really good. Someone start third thread for ppl who have seen advance episodes now. Kidding. Sort of.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 02:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

erica. read the books. and then post on the book thread.

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 03:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

I want to post on the book thread but I'm still not done with 2 :(

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 03:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Who was the guy who stood up for Tyrion? white dudes in armor all looking the same to me.

― Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:00 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that was Bronn, the mercenary who kicked ass & cracked jokes w/Tyrion on the trip up to the Eyrie. He wasn't really wearing armor, just leather, which is partly how he beat a slower knight in full plate.

― farty f baby (Princess TamTam),

Yeah, I totally had to read a recap to figure out that he was a mercenary/ronin/whatever that Cat picked up at that tavern, and not part of her retinue (which I'd forgotten consisted only of Awesome-Sideburns Dude).

Dominique Strauss-Kahn, Rebel IMF (Leee), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 03:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

When the Dancing King told Arya that there's only one god, I was dreading more BSG-level nonsense, but then: "Not today"! Love this guy.

Hahaha oh god my friend the interwebs found a copy of the seventh episode. Hurry, interwebs!

Dominique Strauss-Kahn, Rebel IMF (Leee), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 04:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

episode 7 was rad

itp, l-r: me, you http://bit.ly/itplrmy (cozen), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 22:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

totes. admit that I'd be a little lost without having just read it tho

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 23:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

man i love the calisi's assistant girl...

Suggest Banter (Local Garda), Thursday, 26 May 2011 00:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

ronan, its spelled "khaleesi," thanks

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Thursday, 26 May 2011 00:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

i just saw this in the subtitles for tonight...either way, my reasoned point stands.

Suggest Banter (Local Garda), Thursday, 26 May 2011 00:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

PS: If you don't know how to spell key words, may I suggest reading the book?

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 26 May 2011 00:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

laurel don't be mean. khaleesi is not exactly a 'key word' imo.

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 26 May 2011 00:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

it's in another language ffs

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 26 May 2011 00:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm not being mean! I'm very fond of Ronan! And I think he could stand to read the book.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 26 May 2011 00:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

i've watched circa 6 hours, and now someone's mentioned stannis. stannis. who the fuck is stannis.

Suggest Banter (Local Garda), Thursday, 26 May 2011 11:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

^^^ i have a lot of trouble w/ the names... my gf + i were like, have we met stannis? which one was he?

just sayin, Thursday, 26 May 2011 11:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

(yes i know, i should just read the books)

just sayin, Thursday, 26 May 2011 11:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

stannis is king robert baratheon's brother. not renly, the gay one, but the other one. he's stern and tall and got stuck managing an island he doesn't really want. his chief characteristic is that he's not very likeable.

remy bean, Thursday, 26 May 2011 11:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

They haven't even cast Stannis yet as far as i know

Number None, Thursday, 26 May 2011 11:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah i had to google him. episode 7 was great tho. shit is really going down now.

Suggest Banter (Local Garda), Thursday, 26 May 2011 11:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

stannis' chief characteristic is that he owns bones

farty f baby (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 26 May 2011 11:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

stannis is very
http://i51.tinypic.com/rupudi.jpg

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 26 May 2011 14:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

i would cast christopher eccleston as stannis. or maybe ray winstone.

remy bean, Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

eccleston would be perfect. winstone isnt what i imagined but otoh ray winstone can do whatever the hell he wants

farty f baby (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

i was just reading that theyve sent out casting calls for melisandre and brienne, so stannis cant be far away from being cast

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

Stannis is a dick, rah I hate him. Hope they get someone good. Like Thewlis, or older like David Morse

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 May 2011 18:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

thewlis feels too sort of bumbling to play stannis

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Thursday, 26 May 2011 18:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

there's always his evil australian counterpart, david wenham

hes kinda too good looking though

farty f baby (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 26 May 2011 18:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

Wenham might be too young

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 May 2011 18:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

third book is fucking nuts

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Saturday, 28 May 2011 20:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

^^^ like this post

one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 28 May 2011 21:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

omg evan you dont even know

☂ (max), Saturday, 28 May 2011 22:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

it is nuts until the last fuckin page bro

☂ (max), Saturday, 28 May 2011 22:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

grrm should put that on the back dance of dragons--
"it is nuts until the last fuckin page bro -Max, gawker.com"

one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 28 May 2011 22:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

advance praise for dance of dragons: "this shit is going to be wild" -- max

☂ (max), Saturday, 28 May 2011 22:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

One thing I don't get is why rapey young guy is part of the Stark household. Don't want to google it for fear of spoilers.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Saturday, 28 May 2011 22:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Theon is a ward, "won" from Stark's defeat of the Greyjoys

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 May 2011 22:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

Theon (rapey guy) is a hostage in the medieval sense, meaning a family member from a rival house who the Starks are holding onto & treating relatively well to keep the Greyjoys in line.

a thong of ice and fire (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 28 May 2011 23:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

it is nuts until the last fuckin page bro

― ☂ (max), Saturday, May 28, 2011 5:11 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark

yesssss

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Saturday, 28 May 2011 23:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

Thanks! Episode seven was intense, can't wait for the rest of the show if it gets as crazy as everyone's saying. Maybe I'll read the books.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Saturday, 28 May 2011 23:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

Just wanted to thank folks who have seen EP7 but who haven't gone into details in this thread.

Doctoral Who (Leee), Saturday, 28 May 2011 23:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

otm, I cringe in anticipation of spoilers but none yet, so thanks from me also!

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 29 May 2011 00:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

it's funny, I didn't pay a lot of attention to Theon when I was reading Book 1, but since the series started airing I'm actually having a much easier time picturing him in Book 2...I think he was really well cast in this.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 29 May 2011 00:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

theon doesn't really do much at all in the first book iirc, aside from occasionally have a bro sesh with robb. and apparently smangs babes.

one dis leads to another (ian), Sunday, 29 May 2011 01:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

final (non epilogue) scene of third book is so baller

it's almost as if dude wrote these with tv/film staging in mind?

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Sunday, 29 May 2011 15:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

also holy shit these are like crack, I read storm of swords in under 24 hours?

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Sunday, 29 May 2011 15:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

loooool

this you irl http://i.imgur.com/v3kw8.gif (cozen), Sunday, 29 May 2011 16:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

Aw hell I downloaded ep 6 twice!

Doctoral Who (Leee), Monday, 30 May 2011 00:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

#firstworldproblems

Number None, Monday, 30 May 2011 00:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

"star"

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 30 May 2011 02:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

Episode 7 was the best yet--finally made me take the plunge into reading the book(s).

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 30 May 2011 06:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

1. Dany couldn't have been thrilled to hear Drogo promising to rape a bunch of Westeroi.
2. lol @ Samwise, "wizard."
3. Night's Watch are admirably religiously tolerant!
4. Ned is so dumb. :(

Doctoral Who (Leee), Monday, 30 May 2011 06:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

is there an epi 8 on hbo vod?

this you irl http://i.imgur.com/v3kw8.gif (cozen), Monday, 30 May 2011 07:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

nah that was a one-time-thing to promote hbo go

a thong of ice and fire (Princess TamTam), Monday, 30 May 2011 10:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

ha ha!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 30 May 2011 13:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

and yes, Ned is so very dumb.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 30 May 2011 13:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

was the hand uncle benjen's hand? and wait, wasn't that benjen with tyrion last episode? or was that someone else?

akm, Monday, 30 May 2011 14:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

oh it was bronn. so where at benjen been?

akm, Monday, 30 May 2011 14:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

Benjen is apparently lost somewhere beyond the wall as his horse returned without him. No confirmation of the found hand's identity is yet made.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 May 2011 14:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

some of those craggy bearded guys can be easy to mix up. Benjen's missing - that's all we know about him right now.

a thong of ice and fire (Princess TamTam), Monday, 30 May 2011 14:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

in case anyone finds it useful, here's a spoiler-free guide to minor characters i c/p'd from another board:

http://i.imgur.com/W8rh7.jpg
Maester Aemon - A blind old maester who has served in the Night's Watch for most of his life.

http://i.imgur.com/whkUB.jpg
Ser Alliser Thorne - A knighted member of the Night's Watch charged with training new recruits.

http://i.imgur.com/6qrEB.jpg
Ser Barristan Selmy (aka Barristan the Bold) - Lord Commander of the Kingsguard. Ser Barristan served in the Kingsguard under Aerys Targaryen and remained loyal to the Mad King throughout Robert's rebellion. When he became king, Robert pardoned Ser Barristan and promoted him to Lord Commander.

http://i.imgur.com/fCLMw.jpg
Benjen Stark - Younger brother of Ned. Benjen is First Ranger of the Night's Watch.

http://i.imgur.com/vShPv.jpg
Lord Beric Dondarrion - The Lord of Blackhaven, sworn to House Baratheon. Lord Beric was charged by Ned Stark to bring the king's justice to Ser Gregor Clegane.

http://i.imgur.com/ueJxQ.jpg
Bronn - A skilled sellsword who joins Catelyn's trek to the Eyrie for profit. He befriends Tyrion on the way and represents the dwarf as his champion in trial by combat, knowing that a Lannister always pays his debts.

http://i.imgur.com/recKB.jpg
Gendry - Bastard son of King Robert working as a smith's apprentice in King's Landing.

http://i.imgur.com/ObFyc.jpg
Ser Gregor Clegane (aka The Mountain) - A bannerman to House Lannister, sometimes referred to as "Tywin Lannister's mad dog." His younger brother is Sandor Clegane. Ser Gregor was sent by Tywin to ravage the Riverlands in retaliation for Catelyn Stark's capture of Tyrion. Consequently, he was stripped of all lands and titles by Ned Stark and sentenced to death.

http://i.imgur.com/jmptJ.jpg
Grenn - A Night's Watch recruit and friend of Jon Snow.

http://i.imgur.com/Hrz3r.jpg
Hodor - Hodor.

a thong of ice and fire (Princess TamTam), Monday, 30 May 2011 14:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol nevermind. forgot about image limit.

a thong of ice and fire (Princess TamTam), Monday, 30 May 2011 14:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/uKL5y.jpg
Ser Hugh of the Vale - Former squire to Jon Arryn, up-jumped to knighthood shortly after his lord's death. Ser Hugh was killed in a joust against Ser Gregor Clegane.

http://i.imgur.com/DBJtR.jpg
Magister Illyrio Mopatis - A powerful merchant from the free city of Pentos. Illyrio provided sanctuary for the exiled Targaryen siblings and arranged Dany's marriage to Khal Drogo. Arya overhears Illyrio scheming with Varys in the bowels of King's Landing.

http://i.imgur.com/tlaR8.jpg
Ser Ilyn Payne - The King's Justice (re: royal executioner). His tongue was removed by the Mad King Aerys.

http://i.imgur.com/ugQYK.jpg
Janos Slynt - Commander of the City Watch of King's Landing.

http://i.imgur.com/9Dwcn.jpg
Jeor Mormont - Lord Commander of the Night's Watch and father of the exiled Ser Jorah Mormont.

http://i.imgur.com/MbQT9.jpg
Jory Cassel - Head of Ned Stark's household guard and nephew to Ser Rodrik Cassel. Jory was killed by Jaime Lannister in King's Landing.

http://i.imgur.com/9pq0G.jpg
Lancel Lannister - King Robert's squire. Lancel is the son of Kevan Lannister, Tywin's younger brother.

http://i.imgur.com/RgPD8.jpg
Ser Loras Tyrell (aka The Knight of Flowers) - A famed young knight. He is the youngest son of Mace Tyrell, the Lord of Highgarden and Warden of the South. Loras is the secret lover of Renly Baratheon.

http://i.imgur.com/nCyUy.jpg
Lysa Arryn (née Tully) - Younger sister of Catelyn Stark and daughter of Hoster Tully. Lysa was married to Jon Arryn during Robert's rebellion as a symbol of Riverrun's allegiance to the rebels' cause.

http://i.imgur.com/VqLVS.jpg
Maester Luwin - A servant of House Stark, Luwin remained in Winterfell to counsel Robb when Ned left for King's Landing.

a thong of ice and fire (Princess TamTam), Monday, 30 May 2011 14:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/tl8Ap.jpg
Septa Mordane - A servant of House Stark charged with teaching Sansa and Arya about ladyhood. The title "septa" designates her a clergy member of the Faith of the Seven.

http://i.imgur.com/NcuJK.jpg
Grand Maester Pycelle - The highest-ranking maester in the Seven Kingdoms, having served under several kings. Pycelle is a member of the king's small council.

http://i.imgur.com/W4mjb.jpg
Osha - A wildling woman who participated in an attack on Bran in the forests of Winterfell. Her life was spared by Robb.

http://i.imgur.com/FPTSk.jpg
Pyp - A Night's Watch recruit and friend of Jon Snow.

http://i.imgur.com/tZR32.jpg
Rakharo - Bodyguard of Daenerys.

http://i.imgur.com/gk50j.jpg
Rast - A Night's Watch recruit and foe of Jon Snow. Rast was a raper, and chose the Wall over castration.

http://i.imgur.com/fHhqi.jpg
Lord Renly Baratheon - The Lord of Storm's End and youngest of King Robert's two brothers. Renly sits on the king's small council as the Master of Laws.

http://i.imgur.com/qNSLH.jpg
Robin Arryn - The only son of Lysa and Jon Arryn. Robin is a sickly boy who still breastfeeds well beyond a reasonable age. I mean, just look at this fucking kid.

http://i.imgur.com/nWe2m.jpg
Ser Rodrik Cassel - Winterfell's Master-at-Arms and uncle of Jory Cassel. Ser Rodrik accompanies Catelyn Stark to King's Landing and the Eyrie.

http://i.imgur.com/cPjz0.jpg
Samwell Tarly - A Night's Watch recruit and friend of Jon Snow. Sam is the oldest son of Randyll Tarly, the Lord of Horn Hill. He was forced to join the Night's Watch by his father, who was ashamed of his son and didn't want him to inherit his lands and titles.

a thong of ice and fire (Princess TamTam), Monday, 30 May 2011 14:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

cherry on top

http://i.imgur.com/8KbmK.jpg
Yoren - A recruiter for the Night's Watch. Yoren accompanies Tyrion on his trek south from the Wall, and rides hastily to King's Landing to warn Ned about his wife's capture of the imp.

a thong of ice and fire (Princess TamTam), Monday, 30 May 2011 14:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

Thx bro

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 30 May 2011 15:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

These last two episodes confirmed that I do love this show.
(was talking to someone yesterday about Treme and he said give it another try; it's a slow burn but when it gets there it really gets there. And i'm like dude, to me game of thrones is a slow burn, so I don't know...)

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 30 May 2011 15:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

major lols at Robin Arryn, god what a perfect picture.

Didn't realize that Jorah's dad is in the NW, who are supposed to be celibate...?

Ser Smirky McSmirksalot/Alliser Thorne -- is he the Lieut. Commander that Jon is going to steward for?

Doctoral Who (Leee), Monday, 30 May 2011 18:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

some dudes in the nights watch had families before joining

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 30 May 2011 19:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ah, gotcha!

I am going to predict that in episode 8, Ned is imprisoned but Arya, with the help of Bob Ross, is going to bust him out with her mad water dancing skillz.

Doctoral Who (Leee), Monday, 30 May 2011 19:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

hated the scene in littlefinger's pleasure palace.

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 30 May 2011 19:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

found it v hard to concentrate on his speech

just sayin, Monday, 30 May 2011 19:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

I found it very hard to watch since I was wincing so hard I could barely see. That was some made-up "here be explication" shit.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 30 May 2011 19:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

It isn't HBO unless someone is giving backstory while getting a bj.

polyphonic, Monday, 30 May 2011 19:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

BADLITTLEFINGER.

Doctoral Who (Leee), Monday, 30 May 2011 19:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Alas poor Yoren

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 30 May 2011 20:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

"hmm, this littlefinger scene is pretty boring... lets make this naked chick play with the other naked chicks ass"

☂ (max), Monday, 30 May 2011 20:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

Carcetti's diction is very weird... Can't decide if I like it or not.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Monday, 30 May 2011 21:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ser Smirky McSmirksalot/Alliser Thorne -- is he the Lieut. Commander that Jon is going to steward for?

― Doctoral Who (Leee), Monday, May 30, 2011 2:57 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

nah, hes a knight but he just trains recruits. Jeor Mormont, the Lord Commander of the entire night's watch, is who jon's gonna be fluffing pillows for

a thong of ice and fire (Princess TamTam), Monday, 30 May 2011 21:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

littlefinger scene was Very HBO, but i liked the way he said 'play with her arse'

i thought tywin lannister's introduction was gangster as hell. skinning a stag - kinda groanworthy as a premise but in execution it was awesome. nice way to get across how methodical and unflinching he is, and from a staging perspective it was a lot more interesting to watch than just a static conversation.

a thong of ice and fire (Princess TamTam), Monday, 30 May 2011 21:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

i like the sort of classical feel of khal drogo waging war purely because they tried to assassinate the khalisi...thus ensuring they bring about their own worst fears.

Suggest Banter (Local Garda), Monday, 30 May 2011 21:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

holy shit this show. i really think i hate ned stark.

Mordy, Monday, 30 May 2011 21:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

enjoying this ALOT more now than i thought i would after the first episode, would probably enjoy it more if more static expo scenes were filmed w/ field dressing in the foreground rather than some whores. are the books quick/fun reads? ie something i could plausibly pull off this summer? very very very wary of fantasy in general (very happy to leave lotr to watching the movies and that's that). also should i be rooting for the klingons this much? basically am read to see all the white people die and snow zombies isn't really the way i want to see it done, much rather barbarian hordes.

balls, Monday, 30 May 2011 21:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, now that the jackass has had his head melted I'd be totally up for Drogo/Daenrys winning.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Monday, 30 May 2011 21:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

The littlefinger scene was prob the first time I was annoyed by the gratuitous sex/nudity HBOness of it. I really hated that part and Laurel also otm about it earlier.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 30 May 2011 21:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

balls: after some extreme wariness about fantasy writing I have been enjoying the first book quite a bit. Definitely has helped me understand what's going on, but also a good breezy read.

Unlike other people here I am not going to read ahead of the show, though.

polyphonic, Monday, 30 May 2011 21:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

I might read ahead of the show if the cliffhanger is excruciating enough. Might just jump straight in on vol 2 though, sure I'll pick up any extra plot bits and pieces.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Monday, 30 May 2011 22:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

it reminded me of the first three seasons of the wire when they'd throw in a quick sweaty sex scene every now and then out of nowhere. only if instead they'd also had mcnulty thoroughly describe a flowchart of the barksdale organization while banging that waitress. every other week.

balls, Monday, 30 May 2011 22:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

The show is good. The books are better. And i don't see why anyone who's enjoyed the show so far wouldn't enjoy the books even more.

Number None, Monday, 30 May 2011 22:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Because you'd have to periodically look at the internet while reading them to get your lesbian fix.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Monday, 30 May 2011 22:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

books are great! i read all four over about 15 or 20 days, though i have a lot of free time. and yeah, number none otm, if you like the series i cant imagine you wont like the books

☂ (max), Monday, 30 May 2011 22:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

also chap no spoilers but the cliffhanger will be excruciating

☂ (max), Monday, 30 May 2011 22:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

max otm

I'll have done 4books in about a week but I'm sorta crazy like that

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 30 May 2011 22:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

Aww damn, Amazon has a 4-vol. box for $20! http://www.amazon.com/George-Martins-Thrones-4-Book-Boxed/dp/0345529057/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306804364&sr=8-1

Doctoral Who (Leee), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 01:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm not going to ask if I should get, because I just assume everyone is going to say yes.

Doctoral Who (Leee), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 01:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

littlefinger scene was Very HBO, but i liked the way he said 'play with her arse'

i thought tywin lannister's introduction was gangster as hell. skinning a stag - kinda groanworthy as a premise but in execution it was awesome. nice way to get across how methodical and unflinching he is, and from a staging perspective it was a lot more interesting to watch than just a static conversation.

― a thong of ice and fire (Princess TamTam), Monday, May 30, 2011 9:22 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

otm

Unity Tour 2011: 311 and Sublime with Rome (latebloomer), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 01:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

finished the first book last week. damn, what an ending!

Unity Tour 2011: 311 and Sublime with Rome (latebloomer), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 01:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

really psyched to see the hbo-style season finale ending with each story line getting capped off while jeff buckley's hallelujah plays in the background

☂ (max), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 01:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

will be off the chain

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 01:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

I didn't do the HBO GO thing last week so I just saw ep 8, which was bad-ass. Needed more Arya tho.

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 13:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

People who have read the books: where do you side concerning the balance between experiencing the plot cliffhangers for the first time by watching the show versus having already read the books and knowing what the darn is going on.

Doctoral Who (Leee), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 04:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

if you haven't read them yet, I'd wait until the end of this season at this point

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 04:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

btw finished feast for crows and am sorta ~pissed~ I have to wait for the next one

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 04:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

Laurel otm abt Carcetti's pr0n scene...stared at the ceiling til it ws over. Ffs surely there is a better way to deliver exposition. (yes yes boobs n arses is better I know)...he is so fucking crepey I cant stand it. Great, but creepy.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 04:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

it's not that he's gross, it's that there's something gross abt staging an exposition scene (with a long-ass intro before the exposition even starts) around leering shots of prostitutes learning to finger one another. i mean, i hate to use a word like "gratuitous" in this day and age, but come on. at least the skinning in that pther long info-dump served a purpose, developed character in a useful way. we already know that baelish is a sleazebag whoremhonger, we hardly need spend five minutes watching him mong whores to get this point across.

contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 08:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

I wonder if they established that whore from the north over the last couple of episodes just to have her in this scene.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 09:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

roz q. exposition, the whore from the north

☂ (max), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 12:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

sort of hoping she'll show up nude in every lengthy exposition scene

☂ (max), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 12:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

hahaa
i thought this scene was hilarious!

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 13:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

maybe they can have her field dress a deer while nude

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 13:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

also that scene is really going to screw with the TBS edit

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 13:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

Maybe there is some kind of nude quota imposed & they had to make up the quota in a hurry

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 13:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

the thing I took away from that scene is that Littlefinger is going to use Expositho as his pegging specialist

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 13:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

I wonder if they established that whore from the north over the last couple of episodes just to have her in this scene.

― Gukbe, Wednesday, June 1, 2011 4:44 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

wondered the same thing, tbh

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 14:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

five minutes watching him mong whores to get this point across.

Not so much monging as polishing his wares. Even from the pov of pure, gratuitous titillation, the scene was too long and too flat. But like the Tywin scene (mentioned above) it served to underline that we're not supposed to like him. Don't know the books but the show is rather cartoonish though not in an entirely bad way.

For one throb of the (Michael White), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 14:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

he's not particularly trustworthy in the books either from what I remember

my wife spent a good 5 minutes after the episode ranting along the theme of "why would you trust anyone who was in love with your wife? stupid ass"

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 14:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

ned is really, really dumb

☂ (max), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 14:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

one of the things I loved about Martin's story was how he took the archetypal "honorable knight" of fantasy stories and showed how that character just would not work at all if up against anyone who acted even halfway rationally

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 14:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

(this comment is in the context of what's already been shown in the show btw)

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 14:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

SPOILER WARNING

can't wait until we get to see ned and jamie form crazy-haired pop sensation Jeddard

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 15:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

tbh that was where the books jumped the shark for me

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 15:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

im going to wait for dance of dragons to see how that pans out

☂ (max), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 16:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

pissed i have to wait two weeks

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 16:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

must be a role somewhere in the books for paz de la huerta

this you irl http://i.imgur.com/v3kw8.gif (cozen), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 16:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

NO

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 16:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

I checked - nothing for her. Nothing at all.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 16:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

check paz de la hater here

this you irl http://i.imgur.com/v3kw8.gif (cozen), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 16:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 16:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

she could do a fair taena merryweather. looks of hookers to cast too. maybe one of the dornish.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 16:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

she should have played sansa

☂ (max), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 16:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

she could def be a dornish chick. let her be the red vipers girlfriend

☂ (max), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 16:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

biter

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 16:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

biter! i hardly know er

☂ (max), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 16:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

she could be a horse

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 16:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

I don't remember that it was common knowledge at this time in the story that Littlefinger DID love Catelyn Stark! Iirc, you're kept in suspense for a while about whether he loved Catelyn or her sister, in their youths, and he claims at one point to have slept w both of them but you immediately disbelieve that of Catelyn so that just leaves Lysa...it's not early as clear as the show has made it.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 16:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

Maybe there is some kind of nude quota imposed & they had to make up the quota in a hurry

― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, June 1, 2011 9:39 AM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark

thats actually not unlikely - hbo execs are known for strongly 'encouraging' this kind of content - i wouldnt have thought it necessary with this source material, but there you go

( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

I don't remember that it was common knowledge at this time in the story that Littlefinger DID love Catelyn Stark! Iirc, you're kept in suspense for a while about whether he loved Catelyn or her sister, in their youths, and he claims at one point to have slept w both of them but you immediately disbelieve that of Catelyn so that just leaves Lysa...it's not early as clear as the show has made it.

― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, June 1, 2011 12:37 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

I think you're misremembering - we knew from the start that he dueled Brandon Stark for Catelyn's hand, a fight he had no way of winning... that seems to make it clear who he really loved.

( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah i'm pretty sure Catelyn goes into it in some detail

Number None, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

Damn. One thing I'm realizing as I watch/re-read these is that elements that were suspenseful/mysterious stuck with me far more than straightfoward ones. My gut feeling about how long certain things were in flux or were "unknowns" is totally off.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

anyone think episode 6 was by far the worst so far? there were so, so many moments where i sat there saying to myself, "this is what's gonna happen next" (for instance: an arrow's gonna go through that guy any minute"), and then exactly that would happen. extended even to dialogue.

contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 21:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

[brit interloper content]: lol there's a guy called Jon Snow in this

The cast in this is great cos it provides the biggest game of "Wait, That's The Guy From" imaginable, like bearded Roger Allam and the handsome midget who dated Liz Lemon and the Arsenal fan with learning difficulties who gets killed halfway through Eastern Promises and Jerome fuckin Flynn

I like that since the first two minutes of the first episode, the only notable supernatural thing that's happened has been somebody picking up a hot egg without noticeable injury

MPx4A, Friday, 3 June 2011 21:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

fat guy from the tesco advert

this you irl http://i.imgur.com/v3kw8.gif (cozen), Saturday, 4 June 2011 00:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

[brit interloper content]: lol there's a guy called Jon Snow in this

Always raises a smirk. Next season they will hopefully introduce a powerful rival house lord named Huw Edwards.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Saturday, 4 June 2011 02:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

Aw hell, my books came in today!

VagemiteBoi (Leee), Saturday, 4 June 2011 23:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

Looking at a map of Westeros in my book's frontispiece, I'm vastly amused that there's a castle named Riverrun. Is it past Eve and Adam's?

VagemiteBoi (Leee), Sunday, 5 June 2011 19:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

one of the lads in this was in hollyoaks i think...good career move for him.

MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Sunday, 5 June 2011 19:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

my wife spent a good 5 minutes after the episode ranting along the theme of "why would you trust anyone who was in love with your wife? stupid ass"

― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Wednesday, June 1, 2011 10:44 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ned is really, really dumb

― ☂ (max), Wednesday, June 1, 2011 10:44 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

took me a second to realize this wasn't a joke about Perry being married to Raggett

a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Sunday, 5 June 2011 21:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm vastly amused that there's a castle named Riverrun. Is it past Eve and Adam's?

this was all i could think of too.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 6 June 2011 00:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

Fuck not having HBO. :(

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 6 June 2011 01:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'll see it soon enough but I really want to watch now. Hmpf.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 6 June 2011 01:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

soooon.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 6 June 2011 01:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

all quiet?!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 6 June 2011 14:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

stunned into silence by hodor's cock.

▼ Quick Navigation (☆), Monday, 6 June 2011 15:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

he was shockingly pale.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 6 June 2011 15:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

Haven't seen it, we rescheduled for tonight instead!

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 6 June 2011 15:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

how long is the wait for more? stuff had just started happening and now it's over.

MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Monday, 6 June 2011 16:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

you don't mean the 1st season is over do you?!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 6 June 2011 16:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

2 more episodes still to go.

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Monday, 6 June 2011 16:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

shitty cliffhanger imo. rest of the episode was good tho.

Mordy, Monday, 6 June 2011 17:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

enh I think the ended it "quietly" just to set the stage for the madness to come

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 6 June 2011 17:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

the bravosi's fight was spot on; the show catches the tenor of the book v.well I think

this you irl http://i.imgur.com/v3kw8.gif (cozen), Monday, 6 June 2011 17:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

i really hope he survived.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 6 June 2011 17:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

ah cool okay, two more eps, i had it in my mind that it was 8 eps this season.

MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Monday, 6 June 2011 17:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

having not read the book yet, this is the first episode where I felt like they were making huge plot jumps. where did these bravosi people come from? what was up with the guy losing his fingers and being cool with it? stuff felt super condensed.

when will they kill that breastfeeding brat?

akm, Monday, 6 June 2011 18:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

like the way rob is stepping up to the plate.

MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Monday, 6 June 2011 18:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

i assumed the dude who lost his fingers is just supposed to be a bit of a lovable mental case. there's one in all these sort of shows/films. no doubt later on he'll behead someone and chuckle to himself. he's the gimli!

MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Monday, 6 June 2011 18:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

really hope he survived.

Unless they're being deliberately contrary, in pretty much all TV/film ever, if you leave a fight behind before seeing if the good guy dies, it means they didn't.

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Monday, 6 June 2011 18:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

that's what i was figuring.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 6 June 2011 19:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

that was by far the best episode so far. they really put their foot on the gas.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 00:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah i think its just getting better and better. loved the snappy pace.

Princess TamTam, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 00:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol

Princess TamTam, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 02:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

Is THAT Stannis?

Doctoral Who (Leee), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 03:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, another point where it seemed like things were overly condensed. i'm like, "little brother? what?"

akm, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 03:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

have they even referred to Rickon by name on the show yet? he had the camera pan on him for like a second in the first episode and this is the first time he's appeared since then. kind of a fumble on their part, even if he doesnt do anything

ciderpress, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 03:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, having read the books it's kind of easy to take this stuff for granted. Rickon has probably baen mentioned once or twice, maybe even shown in passing in the first episode, but that raise eyebrows for sure. The thing with Lord Umber losing his fingers and then laughing about it--he is kind of a blustery tuff guy, also drunk, but he does respect displays of power to some degree, and while the wolf attack may not have been that intentionally it has a similar effect. xp

one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 03:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

the finger thing is similarly glossed over in the book, but as much as anything its sort of supposed to show what northmen are like, i.e., hard as fucc

☂ (max), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 04:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Bummed that Ser Barristan didnt strip all the way down to his long johns when they dismissed him
from the kings guard like in the book

Also no way is that Rickon. He looks as old as Brann!

Tyrion's merry men SO otm. Shagga is aces.

Otherwise like the way they are moving the story along. Exciiiiting!

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 04:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

i like any line in this show zinging theon (sigh) about being a prisoner.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 04:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

This is so fucking gripping right now.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 07:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah am really mad to see more of it. a week is too long.

anyone else (who hasn't read the books) think those hill vikings getting involved in the battle will be what sparks ned's crazy sister in law to get involved too, since she doesn't want them ending up armed by the lannisters?

MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 08:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

those lannister nuclear warheads could really ruin the vale

MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 08:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

"a lannister always nukes"

MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 08:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

i was thinking that the viking/barbarians would wind up leading a small chunk of the Lannister army to the Vale only to get killed in what i'm to understand is a very easily defensible chunk of land (probably assuming that the soldiers from the vale would be heading south aswell).

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 15:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

THIS POST IS ALL CONJECTURE

My wife hasn't read the books; her current theory re: the story runs as follows:

- The unsympathetic characters can't win, otherwise the books wouldn't be as popular.
- The only sympathetic characters at the moment are the Starks and Daenerys, ergo one of them must win.
- In order for the Starks to win, either Ned has to escape or he has to die so one of his children can avenge him.
- Cersi can't be killed, at least not right away, or else Joffrey would be exposed and there would be no "game of thrones".

Her current theory is that Ned and all of the legitimate Stark children are going to die and Jon Snow is going to sweep through the Lannisters in revenge, ending up as the winner of the "game of thrones" who will have to deal with a returning Daenerys and her child.

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 15:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

and the deadthings.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

zombies. let's face it - they're zombies.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

She kind of forgot about them, lol.

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

The unsympathetic characters can't win, otherwise the books wouldn't be as popular.

huh

thomp, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

Her words, not mine! I was thinking of bringing up Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever as a counterexample except for that I can't think of anyone I know who read those books who actually liked them (lol)

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

i thought those were awesome when i was thirteen

thomp, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

so did my R.E. teacher, for some reason

thomp, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

pretty strong intuiting by JMP imo

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

i thought those were awesome when i was thirteen

I tried to read them around age 16, at the height of my miserable teen period, and my main reaction was "if I think the main character is this much of a whiny dick, how must he come across to people who are actually happy????"

pretty strong intuiting by JMP imo

I think SHE should write a book tbh

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

Mr Veg tried to get me to read Thomas Covenant, I read the first book & declared "this guy's an asshole & you cant make me read any more of these." Too rapey and just, no.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 18:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

mrs Dan needs a book deal stat

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 18:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

Her current theory is that Ned and all of the legitimate Stark children are going to die and Jon Snow is going to sweep through the Lannisters in revenge, ending up as the winner of the "game of thrones" who will have to deal with a returning Daenerys and her child.

Gotta have a Jon/Arya bamf team-up!

More seriously, I'm wondering about the possibility of a Winterfell/Klingon alliance...

Doctoral Who (Leee), Thursday, 9 June 2011 03:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

also I think the Lannisters are cylons

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 June 2011 04:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

also Tyrion is a munckin from Oz secretly trying to get back home, and Littlefinger is really a politician from Baltimore

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 June 2011 04:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

so, episode 8 fekkin rips! my favorite yet by far. have settled into loving the characters i love (arya and her "dance instructor", tyrion, jon snow and sam, catelyn, lord varys, bran), tolerating the rest. am warming to daenerys due to increased kick-assed-ness, though she's still dull as dirt.

best moment: the long, slow upward pan after sam's "i hope the wall's high enough..."

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 05:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, that part was killer.

(.づ☀‿☀)づ ~da post-modernist struggle~ (.づ☀‿☀)づ (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 9 June 2011 05:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

am warming to daenerys due to increased kick-assed-ness, though she's still dull as dirt.

Amazing looking woman also. And Drogo is just supremely badass.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Thursday, 9 June 2011 18:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

I am still trying to figure out why a post containing the conjecture of someone who hasn't read any of the books warranted a reposting of the spoiler rules

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 18:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

am warming to daenerys due to increased kick-assed-ness, though she's still dull as dirt.

God her hair is like quilt batting and she's all fake-tan now -- hate this casting, hate her, hate.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 18:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

Love her

polyphonic, Thursday, 9 June 2011 18:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

I am still trying to figure out why a post containing the conjecture of someone who hasn't read any of the books warranted a reposting of the spoiler rules

Yeah, idgi either. Way to ruin this thread by posting completely wild ass guesses about where the plot may go. If thats now considered a spoiler, can we go back and delete all the posts about "I can't wait to see (X) show up"?

But on a lolzier note:

http://i.imgur.com/IYe0f.jpg

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 June 2011 18:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

this is a spoiler in a vague general way: danerys has plenty of badass still to attain and her procession from scared catatonic incestuous rape victim to actual powerful autonomous queen (in a story whose other queen is a sociopath) is rad and you guys should cut her some slack cuz she's had a hard life. for example, the guy who introduced me to these books called her a slut :(

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

I don't dislike the character ONE SINGLE BIT. Just the casting choice.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

x-post - LOL YEAH!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

oh yeah she's a bit of a drip. hopefully she is just hard-pedaling the character's early drippiness. i like her lips!

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

She is so hot

polyphonic, Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

xxxp And now I'm angry at that guy!

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

That could have pertained to what DHL said too but I actually meant it for The Dink ad.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

DLH your friend sounds like a winner.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

Her lips make up for the awful awful hair.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

THE HAIR IS SO BAD

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

xxp he was 17 so we should probably cut him some slack too although not as much as we cut dany

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

hmpf maybe

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

her assistant is hotter...

MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

Well at least at 17 he still has time to grow up into someone way more awesome than he is now. He should get started on that, imo.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, i object less to the character than the actress. emelia clarke is gorgeous, but the daenerys remains a complete cypher due to the fact that the actress is practically a walking mannikin. i gathered that D was scarred and near-catatonic in the beginning, but it's not like great depths have opened in clarke's performance as the character has blossomed. love the idea of daenerys and can see as how she'd be a great character if portrayed in a more interesting fashion, but so far, she's just a face & body.

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

and some quilt batting

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

eh, dunno about that; Daenerys in this last episode vs Daenerys in the first episode are for all intents and purposes radically different ppl

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

Honestly all the women cast so far bore me except Cat Stark. The others are all coded for "attractiveness" in way that substitutes thousand-yard stares and blow-job mouths for acting.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

I don't know because I don't find Cersei to be attractive at all.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

x-post You really think so? I don't know - that seems a little harsh. I don't think she's awful, I'm just offended by the horrid dye job.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

Cersei is scary looking.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

that gif of cersei upthread ruined any potential attraction

MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

I don't find Cersei attractive either, but she's clearly MEANT to be "attractive", her face and body follow all the rules. Not that Catelyn's don't, but she's the only one who I believe as a character.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

Daenerys in this last episode vs Daenerys in the first episode are for all intents and purposes radically different ppl

oh hell yeah, the character's progressed enormously. my point was that the actress isn't really doing anything to illuminate this. she's just louder, more furrowed, less slack. it's a terribly dull performance.

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

cersei is... brittle, which is probably right.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

C'mon guys, she ate a horse heart

Number None, Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

Cat/Daeny vs Cersei/Lysa is kind of an interesting contrast

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think both arya and (harder!) sansa are doing good jobs, although they're 12 or whatever so maybe they're not what we're talking about here.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

The most convincing part of her eating a horse heart was when she almost vomited and then choked it back down in her determination to complete the ritual. During which, her face was completely hidden from view, and iirc for part of the scene the camera wasn't even ON her, it was on her brother's reaction, and you could hear her gagging and coughing but that was all. And I found the scene way more affecting when she wasn't visually IN it.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

I def agree that Cat is great. Yeah, I also think the girls are both doing very good jobs.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sansa is kind of blowing me away, in the books she's a totally unrelatable non-entity harpy at this point and it's really a credit to the actress that she is portraying starry-eyed teen with such surprising amounts of empathy

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah i can't remember how the horse heart scene was framed in the book -- can't have been quite the same, since all the dany chapters are from dany's POV -- but i thought it was super good at fixing the moment viserys feels a loss of control at the moment dany doesn't puke.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

xp to Dan: Agreed re Sansa! They've softened her way up for the show, I hated her for ages as a reader. I wonder if that will affect how they treat what's up ahead for her, too....

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think the total opposite tbh. In the books you at least know what she's thinking so you can relate a bit. Here she just comes off as whiny

Number None, Thursday, 9 June 2011 19:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

She was always whiny.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha I remember in the books thinking she had to be a bastard child seeing as how completely unlike any of the other Stark children she was; the show iteration still keeps the naive self-involvement but there is also Stark steel in there as well

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

In the books Sansa is 11, so her childish, selfish behavior make sense. The aged-up Sansa has been one of the worst parts of the show to me.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

also the show plays up a connection between Ned and Sansa that I missed in the book (largely due to hoping Sansa would die every time she popped up), namely the infatuation with honor

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sansa has the worst Brit student accent

MPx4A, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

cersei is... brittle, which is probably right.

i think lena heady is kind of great as cersei. she's a straight-up villain, but her human motivations are clearly apparent. we saw the lingering traces of tender affection she bore for her late husband even through the years of betrayal and contempt that hardened her heart against him. we see the cruelty of her manipulations, but also the anxious familial devotion that drives them. i like that, the way she portrays the struggle between cersei's more humane impulses and the ruthless ambition that ultimately overwhelms them.

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

They've aged up a few people and sidestepped a HUGE amount of sexual/sexualized violence and barbarism. That scene where Danaerys saves the captured women, you see a corpse being dropped into a pile of corpses? That's supposed to be a pile of women who have already been RAPED TO DEATH. And so on.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

I mean they aged up Danerys, too, she's supposed to be...fourteen? That would be JUST TOO SHOCKING, I guess, although having two whores finger each other on camera apparently...isn't?

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

episode 8 was the first time i cared for sansa. not just because she stood up for her father, but because we saw and could empathize with her confusion in her situation. she's previously been portrayed simply and lazily as a "brat".

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

cersei is portrayed well imo. i've not read the books but she has a good range of manipulation. the scenes with her and sansa she does this kind of big sister thing, it's quite creepy.

MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

xxp: well in fairness, that's what whores do

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

also the show plays up a connection between Ned and Sansa that I missed in the book (largely due to hoping Sansa would die every time she popped up), namely the infatuation with honor

arya being all cool and swashbuckling like the male starks makes her "fit" the family more than her sister but yeah i think the thing to remember is that from her parents' pov arya is a weird and even slightly alarming anomaly and sansa is the girl who's been successfully brought up to be a princess.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

sort of unsurprising that the sexual initiation and rape of a 14-year-old girl might be more shocking than two (presumably adult) prostitutes getting it on...

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah I was going to say...

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

That scene where Danaerys saves the captured women, you see a corpse being dropped into a pile of corpses? That's supposed to be a pile of women who have already been RAPED TO DEATH. And so on.

― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, June 9, 2011 1:05 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah, i was surprised by how daintily this scene was presented, given its obvious subject: the gang rape of a village's women. you could hardly tell what was going on. show is usually much more brazen abt such stuff.

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

No I know that was just my momentary annoyance at the show defanging the things that are actually supposed to be shocking/show real depravity/create contrast to other or later scenes and people.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

xxxp

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

/cersei is... brittle, which is probably right./

i think lena heady is kind of great as cersei. she's a straight-up villain, but her human motivations are clearly apparent. we saw the lingering traces of tender affection she bore for her late husband even through the years of betrayal and contempt that hardened her heart against him. we see the cruelty of her manipulations, but also the anxious familial devotion that drives them. i like that, the way she portrays the struggle between cersei's more humane impulses and the ruthless ambition that ultimately overwhelms them.

I agree! can't wait to see how she does upcoming cersei

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

i don't really have a problem with them dropping explicit explanations of things like the pile of raped women because (A) i thought they were often kind of callow and leering in the books and (B) the SAVAGE NOMADIC HORSE LORDS are taking settled women as prisoners, what do you think's happening to them

that said if there is ever a brutal extended rape scene i just hope someone talks exposition continuously over the top of it

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, i didn't need to see extended barbarian raep scenes, but it looked more like herding sheep. odd decision, when the point could easily have been made cinematically w/out wallowing in it.

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

in general, though, less rapey is better...

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

My wife knew exactly what they were doing to those women without having it spelled out. She found it pretty noxious as presented.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm not looking for it to be more horrifying, was just expressing irritation with the whole "violence violence, that's totes fine, let's rip out some tongues on camera, guys!" but, like, Sansa and Danaerys have to be aged up and have the sexualized parts of their stories softened/erased because the pretty-much-historical truth of marrying off 14-yr-old girls and what happens to them afterward is too difficult to make titillating.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

too difficult?

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

fair point. can see why they'd shirk away from it tho.

MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

xpost

MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's not stopping me from enjoying the show or anything. Obv.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

I agree with you (Laurel). Also find the gratuitous nudity and violence to be kind of distracting and unnecessary in general. Almost wishing AMC would have made this show in a way. Gotta love HBO's budget, though.

xxxp's

rockapads, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

was just expressing irritation with the whole "violence violence, that's totes fine, let's rip out some tongues on camera, guys!" but, like, Sansa and Danaerys have to be aged up and have the sexualized parts of their stories softened/erased

oh yeah no argument here, welcome to america

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

the tongue ripping was totally o_O

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

Lol as I saw someone say on a comment thread recently, "How do you like America? Have you been here long?"

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think one of the lines this show has been walking (and is not the first to walk it -- we're rewatching the Sopranos recently and it has similar issues) is that on one hand there's this heavy theme of the consequences of noble politics. so you've got the butcher's son being killed, or the woman being raped/killed as consequence of war ("this is what war is") or the other casualties that come about because of the machinations of these nobles. at the same time, tho, there's this very real risk of aestheticizing in a pleasurable way these things we're supposed to find repulsive. in the Sopranos that's getting all hyped up and excited whenever the show shows violence. I think that show handled it by trying to implicate us in our own enjoyment (generally thru these proxy witness figures of Carmella, or Melfi), but it's less convincing when Daeny is horrified partially bc of what ppl are noting (that the full horror is not brought home) but also bc she seems to get it both ways. She gets to stop the horrifying stuff and still become the agent of those actions. I kept waiting for Drogo to put his foot down here, that it's impossible to keep an army running if you undermine their traditions of militancy (OT a little but very interesting article recently about how rape in war creates kinship bonds between soldiers -- http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/05/is-rape-inevitable-in-war/239480/). I'm not particularly upset about this, bc really who wants to see that much gritty realism in a television program? But I think the Sopranos, which is atm a superior show (tho who knows where GoT will end up in a season or two) didn't shy away from those uncomfortable elements.

Mordy, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm not sure I've fully thought this out, but just some ideas...

Mordy, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

tbh if you're waiting for Drogo to put his foot down, you've misread the Drogo/Daenerys relationship

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sansa and Danaerys have to be aged up and have the sexualized parts of their stories softened/erased because the pretty-much-historical truth of marrying off 14-yr-old girls and what happens to them afterward is too difficult to make titillating.

― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, June 9, 2011 1:23 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

well, it wouldn't be difficult to much such stuff titillating, though. it's just that we're extremely uncomfortable w/ that kind of titillation. tbh, given the initial comments itt about the rapeyness of the books, i'm kind of glad that the show has soft-pedaled this aspect.

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

"...it wouldn't be difficult to make such stuff titillating..."

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

Like are Littlefoot's two lesbians comparable to the strippers at the Bada Bing Club? The former seemed designed to titillate the audience and only failed to do so bc of how obvious that attempt was. Compare to the exchange between Ralphie and the stripper in Sopranos where the conditions of violence + depravity they live in practically made it impossible to ever enjoy watching them dance. xp

Maybe not put his foot down but would he really destroy his kingdom bc she asked him too?

Mordy, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

You should imagine my whole last line in the driest tone possible, fyi. Yeah, I don't want to see an HBO-icized 14yo Daenerys get raped in public in front of the entire Dothraki population either, or any number of other horrifying things that are going to happen later in their full appallingness. I think our discomfort at that kind of scene is the GOOD and right thing. I do wonder a bit if it will start to undermine later elements, though.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

Maybe not put his foot down but would he really destroy his kingdom bc she asked him too?

the significance of the "he can dominate everyone, if you dominate him it will drive him wild" conversation seems to have been undersold

basically Daenerys is an embodiment of the "magic punani" trope

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

um, i hope that wasn't spoilerz? sadface. xp

Mordy, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

No, that was already supposed to have happened but the show took it out!

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

what exactly happened in the books + when?

Mordy, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

on one hand there's this heavy theme of the consequences of noble politics. so you've got the butcher's son being killed, or the woman being raped/killed as consequence of war ("this is what war is") or the other casualties that come about because of the machinations of these nobles. at the same time, tho, there's this very real risk of aestheticizing in a pleasurable way these things we're supposed to find repulsive.

i think that in stories like this, we expect demonstrations of outrage at the human consequences of noble politics, but that such demonstrations are often mere pretense, social pleasantries adopted to disguise the fact that we enjoy the carnage, the spectacle and cruelty of power. we wouldn't build so many of our stories around ruthless rulers if we didn't find something fundamentally exciting about them.

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

tbh if you're waiting for Drogo to put his foot down, you've misread the Drogo/Daenerys relationship

― DJP

"Maybe not put his foot down but would he really destroy his kingdom bc she asked him too?"

the significance of the "he can dominate everyone, if you dominate him it will drive him wild" conversation seems to have been undersold

― DJP

uh, spoilers, dan? i haven't read the books, so i dunno, but...

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

stuff that should have already happened

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

Mordy, maybe I made that up/transplanted it from another book??? I'm not finding references to it online now and I haven't read Bk 1 in a long time, but I thought that at some point Drogo had to um well that it had to be in public under the stars, in the manner of the horses that are the Dothraki lifesblood. It DID happen, didn't it??

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

he's whipped. that's all they're saying.
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got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

jeez, I thought ppl were antsy about spoilers on the Doctor Who thread

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

we wouldn't build so many of our stories around ruthless rulers if we didn't find something fundamentally exciting about them.

I actually stopped reading the books because there wasn't anyone in them that I really found admirable, except maybe Arya. (I don't know why I don't find the Night's Watch compelling, but I don't.) Having actual human beings in the roles makes it easier.

lukas, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

If I hadn't read the books I don't know that I would like people to be correcting me, or telling me what actually happened, every time I tried to discuss the show. More fun to discuss when everyone has the same data.

rockapads, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

So yeah I guess we need two threads for this now? One for those who've read the books and one for those who haven't?

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

not having read the books tho, i have no problem being brought up to speed on things the series might have omitted.
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got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

my comment was based entirely on what was presented on the show

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

I mean seriously, what has this board come to if I can't use several cryptic posts to set up a "magic punani" joke

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

Going back to the show ... did anyone else hate the scene with Jon Snow and the undead wight? Didn't work for me.

polyphonic, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

well it didn't bother me...

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magic punani (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

I thought it was OK. What didn't you like about it?

rockapads, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

Laurel - I'm re-reading them now and the Dany & Drogo thing your thinking of is when she decides to ride him instead of being mounted. She takes him out to some soft moss in the middle of camp and they go at it.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

I didn't like how the wight looked and moved at all. It felt like a z-budget horror scene. Like something out of a Mark Borchardt production.

polyphonic, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

had no problem with the zombie scene

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

I mean seriously, what has this board come to if I can't use several cryptic posts to set up a "magic punani" joke

lol. just wanted to make sure you wasn't giving the game away.

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

the wight being such a fat football hooligan made it less scary

MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hm, thanks. I thought that scene was the analog to/sign of her adaptation to her status in contrast to an earlier scene in which he was um the agressor and it was against her will. Must have confused it w another book in the intervening years, tho.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

daeny was clearly raped on the evening of her wedding, right? is that what you're talking about? didn't seem to happen in front of anybody though, at least not on the show.

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

the wight being such a fat football hooligan made it less scary

That might have been part of the problem. He certainly didn't look like a ranger. Was he supposed to be?

polyphonic, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Mordy, maybe I made that up/transplanted it from another book??? I'm not finding references to it online now and I haven't read Bk 1 in a long time, but I thought that at some point Drogo had to um well that it had to be in public under the stars, in the manner of the horses that are the Dothraki lifesblood. It DID happen, didn't it??

― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, June 9, 2011 4:47 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

in the books, during the scene where danaerys introduces drogo to non-doggystyle sex, she drags him out into the middle of the camp. its a power display on the part of danaerys, and not rape (unless were talking a complicated definition of rape)

☂ (max), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

the wedding night sex, in the books, isnt rape either--he like... strokes her? all over? and then (barf) "slips a finger inside her" or something, and she is hrm "very wet" or something

☂ (max), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think its "to HBO's credit" that they have drogo rape her rather than pretend that he was able to seduce her somehow and that it makes it okay

☂ (max), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

It is what you think, laurel. It is the first time she asserts herself and takes command of her situation. Unlike other Dothraki wives, she is not a mare; she has power and will change things.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sorry - couldn't see xposts on the phone.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

No no there must have been this other book that we published that I picked up which also had a horse tribe of warlike people and their king took a wife from another society and their marriage had to be consummated out in the open in "horse" fashion in front of his entire assembled army or w/e and I must have conflated the two. I heartily apologize for this whole digression!!!!!

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

the wedding night sex, in the books, isnt rape either--he like... strokes her? all over? and then (barf)...

yes, barf. in the TV show, though the scene cut early on, it seemed non-consensual. she was weeping, forced down (iirc?), etc.

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

not barf at sex or even at the idea that she might have been attracted to drogo, but barf at lousy descriptions of sex in pulp novels

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://k.min.us/jdixOk.png

☂ (max), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

no

MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

no?

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

new

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgsl0wMTV71qed7ew.gif

☂ (max), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

ned stark is gonna be furious when khal drogo brings the rest of alien ant farm to his iron maiden revival gig

MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

khal drogo's playing conan in shitty-looking new conan movie

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

If the fight scene in this episode is any indication, I may have to watch the Conan film.

polyphonic, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

Not afraid of being typecast then

Number None, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

better to get stuck playing one kind of character than risk not playing any

rockapads, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, casting OTM, can't imagine anyone better-suited to the part. maybe it'll be better than the previews...

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah fair play to him. If i had his brooding good looks and washboard abs i'm sure i'd be doing the same

Number None, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

here's a pretty good (spoiler-free) article that argues that changes to catelyn and dany's character arcs have made them less interesting:

http://www.overthinkingit.com/2011/05/10/game-of-thrones-feminism/

(.づ☀‿☀)づ ~da post-modernist struggle~ (.づ☀‿☀)づ (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 9 June 2011 22:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

She took his hand and moved it down [CENSORED CENSORED NAUGHTY BUSINESS CENSORED]. “Yes,” she whispered as she put [CENSORED CENSORED GEORGE SHE'S THIRTEEN WHAT THE HELL CENSORED CENSORED].

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The damsel in distress has been a stock character in melodrama for as long as melodrama has been around. So has the long-suffering wife who pines for her husband while he’s off grimly doing what needs to be done in the public sphere. There are elements of these stock characters in Daenerys Targaryen and Catelyn Stark. (Dany even took a couple of levels in the “white woman sexually menaced by a swarthy ethnic type” prestige class.) But in the books, this is not all there is to them, not even the main part of what there is to them, and in the series, at least in the pilot episode, it’s all that they are. Why this flattening? Well, both of these stock characters are women who have been damaged by a patriarchal system. This is an aspect of Cat and Dany’s stories, so that’s fine. But in the book, they are also a part of the same system that is grinding them down. They’ve got a role to play in that system, and each of them accepts, excels at, and even to a degree relishes that role. And this is too much complexity for a TV show to stomach, even an aitch-bee-oh TV show. It’s like the writers are afraid that if Daenerys enjoys the sex, the audience will forget that politically expedient quasi-consensual child marriages are a BAD thing. Or perhaps they’re afraid that the audience will think the writers have forgotten it. Whatever the motivation, the televised version of these characters is sadly diminished.

(.づ☀‿☀)づ ~da post-modernist struggle~ (.づ☀‿☀)づ (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 9 June 2011 22:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

even an aitch-bee-oh TV show

Does HBO even trademark their network name to some crazy extent? Or is this just something that belongs in the IA thread? I hate when people do this for no other reason than to be "clever" or "funny".

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 June 2011 22:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, like scare quotes

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 22:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

sorry, that was unnecessarily catty. but i did like the article (sort of) and didn't object to the silly spelling

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 22:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

um, not really equal imho. overuse of scare quotes is, but I think that was a pretty valid use of them.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 June 2011 22:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

Wasn't dismissing the article as a whole, I just find it hard to take people seriously when they take the time to type something out like that when it really serves little purpose.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 June 2011 22:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

its a blog post... who cares...

(.づ☀‿☀)づ ~da post-modernist struggle~ (.づ☀‿☀)づ (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 9 June 2011 22:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

So sensitive. You guys act like I'm the first poster ever on ilx to point out something annoying.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 June 2011 22:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

i just love parity

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 22:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

and in the series, at least in the pilot episode

not to rush to judgments or anything

Gukbe, Friday, 10 June 2011 02:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

It’s like the writers are afraid that if Daenerys enjoys the sex, the audience will forget that politically expedient quasi-consensual child marriages are a BAD thing.

Well, considering the current relationship status between Dany and Drogo, we're still at a point where we might "forget that politically expedient quasi-consensual child marriages are a BAD thing."

Doctoral Who (Leee), Saturday, 11 June 2011 21:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

Also, I hope that the poster who complained about my speculation was just being a hyper-sensitive spoilerphobe (which I consider myself to be one, incidentally) and not someone who read the book and took my speculation as, you know, a spoiler.

Doctoral Who (Leee), Saturday, 11 June 2011 21:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

Btw, I started reading the book, and damn aitch-bee-oh changed a whole lot. For instance, in the book, Bran only caught Jaime and Cersei wrestling!

Doctoral Who (Leee), Sunday, 12 June 2011 20:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

Wasn't the assumption that he was too young to understand what they were doing?

Gukbe, Sunday, 12 June 2011 21:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

or are you joking and I'm looking pretty stupid?

Gukbe, Sunday, 12 June 2011 21:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

The second one. ^_^

E.L. Doctorow Who (Leee), Sunday, 12 June 2011 21:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

this is on tonight?

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Sunday, 12 June 2011 21:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah

Number None, Sunday, 12 June 2011 21:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

just a lil nude wrestling between siblings, lets be cool

☂ (max), Sunday, 12 June 2011 21:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Welcome to TNA Monday Night Incest Wrestling!

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 12 June 2011 22:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

VG, did I ever tell you that I like the way you think?

E.L. Doctorow Who (Leee), Sunday, 12 June 2011 22:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think you just did :)

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 12 June 2011 22:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

did everybody else know that was going to happen but me? like...whut?

Gukbe, Monday, 13 June 2011 02:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

My wife smacked me when it happened, "what the fuck? How could they? ARRGH". In other words, no. :)

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 June 2011 02:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

but he's on the poster! THE POSTER!

Gukbe, Monday, 13 June 2011 02:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

I liked the dude, but in retrospect, i guess he was pretty shit at the Game of Thrones.

Gukbe, Monday, 13 June 2011 02:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

Pretty much what my wife was getting at!

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 June 2011 02:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

Holding that secret has been killing me

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 02:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Me too!!

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 June 2011 02:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

me too!

sigh

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 June 2011 02:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm glad I haven't read the books, and I think I'll give up on reading them. However, I was so sure something was going to turn up to save Ned (a Raven informing them of Jamie's capture was my bet) that I didn't really appreciate the death. I liked the silence as he looked over the crowd though.

Gukbe, Monday, 13 June 2011 02:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, i think the reason its so effective is because it keeps reminding you of ned's plot armor - and then kills him anyway

http://www.blogtv.com/Shows/1982565/date/ZeNDZmVEbWFxbuTtbmZ

skip to about 9:00

(.づ☀‿☀)づ ~da post-modernist struggle~ (.づ☀‿☀)づ (Princess TamTam), Monday, 13 June 2011 03:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh man. I knew what was coming and I *still* bawled.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 June 2011 05:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

Holding that secret has been killing me

― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Sunday, June 12, 2011 10:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Me too!!

― the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, June 12, 2011 10:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

me too!

sigh

― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, June 12, 2011 10:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol now holding the OTHER secrets is killing me

☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 12:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

shh

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 12:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://www.blogtv.com/Shows/1982565/date/ZeNDZmVEbWFxbuTtbmZ

skip to about 9:00

― (.づ☀‿☀)づ ~da post-modernist struggle~ (.づ☀‿☀)づ (Princess TamTam), Sunday, June 12, 2011 11:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha this is how i felt when i read the book

☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 12:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

LOL!

schwantz, Monday, 13 June 2011 17:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

ahahaha

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 17:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol now holding the OTHER secrets is killing me

is this other secret going to be revealed next week?

magic punani (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 13 June 2011 17:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

... depends on the secret

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 17:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

(to max's post)

magic punani (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 13 June 2011 18:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

there are roughly 1m more secrets coming

☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 18:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

the interviews with Sean Bean after the airing of this episode are pretty interesting

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 18:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

Wow, seems like a lot of internet folks are pretty pissed at the ending of this episode

Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 18:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

omg TamTam that video

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

people who haven't read the book? or?

☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

xp

☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah

Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

I've seen comments along the lines of "what's the point in even watching if your favourite characters are just gonna get killed all the time"

Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

My wife is still pissed about it. She sent me an email over lunch that just read "I still can't belive they killed him!".

"what's the point in even watching if your favourite characters are just gonna get killed all the time"

Not fans of The Wire either, eh?

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

that is precisely the point of watching!

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

But, tbh, if Ned Stark was your favorite character, well, you're watching wrong.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

If Arya and Tyrion aren't your favorite characters you're a horrible person.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

like once I realized that offing characters was like "a thing" it made the books even more addictive imo

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's weird. He's a lot more beloved than i thought.

Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

he's a dude

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm sure they'll get over it after next week's tho

Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

I dig the idea of Ned's character, but in reality he's pretty damn boring. You don't have to agree with a character's motivations to find them completely engaging.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

eh i dont really blame them, sean bean is the biggest or second-biggest name in the cast by a very long shot, plus he was the focus of the marketing campaign--if i was watching the show w/out having read the books id be telling myself "no way theyre going to kill off sean bean, itd be like killing off tony soprano/steve buscemi in that other show/jimmy mcnulty"

☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm sure they'll get over it after next week's tho

― Number None, Monday, June 13, 2011 3:08 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm, the end of book 1 is effing nuts, the season finale will be so sick, really hoping they use imogen heaps "hide and seek"

☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

max otm

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

The marketing campaign etc was very well played i think

Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

really hoping they use imogen heaps "hide and seek"

lol

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

otm, the end of book 1 is effing nuts, the season finale will be so sick, really hoping they use imogen heaps "hide and seek"

omg

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah seems like casting Bean as Eddard was super canny---get viewers in the door with a big name actor who's not likely to commit to years of television and hook them on the rest

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

btw is tyrions accent getting worse as the show progresses or is it just me

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

can I just say again that Joffrey is a shit?

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hopefully the money they save on Bean's salary can be spent on some BATTLES. my only minor complaint about this episode.

Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

they cast Joffrey perfectly, I just want to strangle the little shit every time he's onscreen

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hopefully the money they save on Bean's salary can be spent on some BATTLES. my only minor complaint about this episode.

they pretty neatly dodged having to depict anything, didn't they

I sorta don't care about the battles---I'm in it for the ~machinations~

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

I lolled pretty hardcore when Tyrion got trampled by his own men

xxp: the kids on this show are uniformly amazing

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

er or rather xp

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

Nah i know it was done well but i do hope there's a bit more of an epic feel going forward

Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

btw where's the thread where we can talk about the books? I'm on iPhone and can't search for it

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

George R. R. Martin

we could revive this

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hopefully the money they save on Bean's salary can be spent on some BATTLES.

I keep imagining the score being replaced with Mirrored and Gloss Drop

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

the thought did occur to me

Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

this is where we've been talking 'bout the books:

Anticipating A Feast For Crows by George R. R. Martin (Nov. 9)

EZ Snappin, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dug the scene between Catelyn and Robb about marrying one of Lord Frey's daughters. Possibly her most likeable moment - "One was..."

Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hopefully the money they save on Bean's salary can be spent on some BATTLES. my only minor complaint about this episode.

― Number None, Monday, June 13, 2011 3:17 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

iirc martin only really depicts two battles in the books

☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

Doesn't Tyrion actually fight for a bit before getting knocked out in the book though? I'd just like it if the scope of these things was conveyed a little more. I understand that's difficult to do.

Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah tbf this is one of the battles that he DOES depict, i was just thinking that martin doesnt dwell overlong on big army battles. he likes fights though.

☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

Having the POV character miss the battle was much cleverer storytelling than staging a cheapo battle would've been IMO.

If Arya and Tyrion aren't your favorite characters you're a horrible person.

Also Jon Snow.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

I felt they could have shown some kind of skirmish in the woods before Jamie's capture. That seemed to be done a little abruptly.

Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, I didn't really get how that came to be.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

i was wondering that too. if the Lannisters thought they were going to battle why was Jamie milling about somewhere away from the thousands of soldiers etc?!

magic punani (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

They were off to besiege Riverrun, Catelyn's dad's place

Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

oh! i missed that somehow.