I finally own Carrie!

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This is a thread where you can talk about Carrie, the movie, and how much you love it :P

i got it as a late xmas present

the front is hollogramic!

best damn movie

best damn christmas present too

not sure when i will watch it . . . i do have a friend coming to visit. i made her watch it for the 1st time in college!

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vs

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Not even a contest, Nancy Allen all the way. Had such a crush on her when I was like 10.

Dark horse candidate:

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dirty pillows is one of my favorite euphemisms ever

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http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/guides/parents/carrie_large.jpg

De Palma never got any better than this imho. only misstep in the film is maybe the house sinking into the ground in the end, which is kinda too ridiculous.

ugh nancy allen is hot

How is The Fury? I has a strong inclination to see it b/c psychic powers are awesome.

De Palma never got any better than this imho

Blow Out is better imho

Blowout put me to sleep

altho amy irving's hair was kind of amazing tbh

This is one of my favorite movies EVER! Jesse bought me the deluxe DVD set for some gift giving holiday five or six years ago. No holographic cover, but on the bonus disc we do learn that in the scene where Norma gets it with the fire hose, the water pressure actually burst P.J. Soles's ear drum.

Also:

THEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

was gonna post^^^

It's taking a lot of restraint for me not to just warble "They're all gonna laugh at you!" out loud here at my desk. It's only the fact that I'd have to explain what the hell I was doing to my coworkers that is keeping me quiet.

I can probably slip "Eve was WEAK!" into causal conversation at some point without raising too many eyebrows, though.

A psychotelekenetic bloodbath at the morale boosting potluck lunch might be harder to skate away from though...

THEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

― she is writing about love (Jenny), Thursday, April 1, 2010 4:16 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

was gonna post^^^

― plax (ico),

me too!

xp - If I could set things on fire with my mind, my workplace would have been ashes two years ago.

How is The Fury? I has a strong inclination to see it b/c psychic powers are awesome.

It's one for the De Palma nuts like me, who thinks it's among his best. Everyone else receives it with indifference or worse.

Dark horse candidate:

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I tell this to everyone who will listen: When I was about 10 years old I read Carrie, the one with the pics from the movie. I was immediately OBSESSED and I wanted to be her. I played Carrie by filling an empty gallon Kemps ice cream bucket and dumping it over my head on the porch, then doing this over and over and over:

http://www.best-horror-movies.com/image-files/carrie-blood.jpg

I like The Fury! Haven't seen it in quite a while, but I remember being entertained by it repeatedly when it used to be on HBO all the time.

this movie is so damn amazing

the opening (?) scene where de palma floats through the steamy showers is one of the most beautiful things ever

it really is

it's also funny to consider this as a sort of revenge fantasy for anybody who went through high school gym.

i used to just cut and drink in the bathroom

oops

that prom scene is something else. the plain sadness in her fury is chilling.

Great '70s film--the band that plays at the prom is perfect, and William Katt is like a blueprint for The Virgin Suicides' Trip Fontaine. (Speaking of which, VS's prom--at least in the film--is almost certainly a nod to Carrie's.)

By the way: Kael loved The Fury.

And she was wrong.

Zzzzzzzzzzzz.

I like The Fury, especially Carrie Snodgress's death and the scene with the toy train, but wouldn't put it in De Palma's first tier. Has there been a De Palma poll? For me it goes, 1. Casualties of War, 2. Blow Out, 3. Carrie. Which would probably match Kael's list exactly...oh no, I'm a Paulette!

i wonder if i would like blow out

how much do you like John Travolta

god i don't know. but i do like nancy allen

Blow Out is a neat movie imo.

Blow Out rules. Probably my favorite De Palma.

Hoberman's got some good stuff on Blow Out in The Dream Life. He sees it as the end of a 20-year progression that began with various films dating back to the Kennedy administration.

There is a De Palma poll...zero for Casualties of War! Ouch. Much better news: only two votes for the monumentally silly Scarface.

how scary is this movie? i've never seen it, and watching horror movies is a major commitment for me, because i am a pussy.

eh not very. Piper Laurie is scariest thing in it

Carrie is much more sad and tragic than scary.

yea but the sadness is scary in a disturbed, cold way

Hmm.

Though the original actually seems like a workable or at least bankable idea ahead of its time -- post-Twilight/High School Musical/Glee (hell, that one Buffy episode as well), why not something that puts all the pieces together now?

Then again, given the song in specific that link refers to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D49pGKyt4I

well, replacing half the songs is no fair

Caught the Frasier episode a couple nights ago where Christine Baranski plays the Dr. Laura parody "Dr. Nora" and Piper Laurie shows up at the end as her crazed mother in a seeming Carrie spoof.

now on c4. great xmas day film imo.

this movie is so damn amazing

the opening (?) scene where de palma floats through the steamy showers is one of the most beautiful things ever

― 2 guys 1 jag (J0rdan S.), Thursday, April 1, 2010 7:12 PM (8 months ago)

its really fun to imagine brian dePalma silently levitating through a mass of showering cheerleaders w/ his camera trying not to be noticed

revamped version of the flop stage musical opens in NY next winter.

I have still never seen this, at all.

anyone else think they could.. move shit with their mind if they tried really hard, after seeing this film?
possibly just me.

damn, thought this thread weould be abt. the 1988 hit single by Europe..

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d6/Europe_Carrie_single.jpg

it's nancy allen's birthday

happy birthday nancy allen

I finally own a camel!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vovSKIRf1tQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dz2gdXP6Zs

I'm going to see it, but my expectations are low.

One sometimes-ILXor friend of mine complains that the new Carrie is too fucking ~cuet~ and I agree. That's my biggest hang-up, but also it doesn't look like Julianne Moore is going to hold a candle to Piper Laurie's displays of batshit fervor.

tbf to Julianne Moore I don't know if anybody could hold a candle to Piper Laurie. Her performance was perfectly OTT and has become so iconic that anybody cast in that role is at a significant disadvantage already.

Also Sissy Spacek was cute as hell. She just had freckles.

Not to defend this remake, which should never have been made.

This one looks more like The Rage: Carrie 2, which is, obviously, not good. The Angela Bettis version from 2002 (with Patricia Clarkson as Mrs. White) was pretty solid and took what is probably the best tact: avoid high style because you'll never be DePalma and instead focus on a gritty, handheld realism. I'm kind of surprised I haven't seen more recent reassessment of the 2002 version, given the interest of the new remake.

Surprised King doesn't complain about DePalma as much as he does Kubrick. King's Carrie White was a chubby, pimply loser. I know that movie's never going to get made in Hollywood, but still.

Blatant scale-tipping: 1976's Best Supporting Actress Oscar Nominees

movie polls can always use more meaninglessness

Oh, and even in revamped form, Carrie: The Musical kinda sucks.

the whole 'wink wink, we're in on this too' musical trope is very played at this point.

The new Carrie seems to have latched on to all the wrong things about Carrie and ignored the things that matter the most.

is this essentially just remaking the film, or are they going back to the source novel and just acting as another interpretation of that?

just wondering since the poster said something like "you will know her name" and I remember the end of the book, that was literally true, that everybody knew it was Carrie White due to ESP imprinting (even people that didn't meet or know her), but perhaps I'm being overtly optimistic.

have you seen the trailer? i think that will answer some of your questions.

only a short one. the trailer seemed to indicate they're just revisiting the first movie, but I haven't seen an expanded or more recent trailer.

it's probably going to suck - the lack of advance reviews isn't a good sign.

They're screening it incredibly late in the game. So, yeah, it's probably a disaster, tho I am intrigued that a female director's doing it this time around.

I do like Chloe Moretz though

It would have been interesting to see someone take the journalistic approach of the original novel. God, this is gonna suck.

Also Sissy Spacek was cute as hell. She just had freckles.

Oh sure. I was re-using the word "cute," but what I meant was that Sissy Spacek doesn't look like conventional hottie, and they were able to make her look mousy.

W/ Moretz, they're doing the Hollywood fake-ugly thing e.g., glasses = frumpy nerd, or in this case, shirts buttoned all the way to the neck and overalls + a crucifix. But even those touches only go so far, and the way she plays the role doesn't look like it will be timid and apologetic enough.

Give her a Virginia Woolf nose, maybe.

yeah, there's no way a girl that looks like Chloe gets clowned on that level.

That's why Angela Bettis was good casting. She's just odd enough looking/acting to really believe she'd be ostracized. You wouldn't even need to give her the standard-issue goony glasses.

you are both otm

chloe three names looks like tavi
it's not her fault that she's so freaking cute, but it was a poor casting choice

the way she plays the role doesn't look like it will be timid and apologetic enough

Yes! Very astute. Sissy Spacek was cute as hell but played mousy very convincingly. Plus like Angela Bettis, you could believe that as cute as she was, people would still pick on her because she had something about her that deviated from the accepted beauty standards of the day (red hair and freckles for Sissy, Angela Bettis's face for Angela Bettis*).

*Not to throw shade on Angela Bettis, but if other circumstances were right, I could definitely see her getting picked on for her looks in high school.

There's not enough odd-looking/non-conventionally pretty actors now the way there was in the 70s. Who's today's Shelley Duvall?

Tilda Swinton?

(in that she can be made to look odd easily)

<3 Shelley Duvall <3
I don't think there is a young Shelley Duvall.

no way

there is no modern equivalent to Shelly Duvall come on now

Tilda Swinton is a full grown adult. Young actresses aren't allowed to look that weird.

I genuinely believe you can trace the downfall of modern movies to the fact that there is no equivalent to a young Shelly Duvall working in modern movies.

Tilda also strikes me as one of those preturnaturally British/academically-trained Actors with a capital "A"

Shelly is an American with no training iirc

yeah it was just a shot in the dark rly

Better than my best guess:

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Definitely Swinton and Bettis. I think Lili Taylor had a bit of this quality. Emily Watson could have probably played a good Carrie.

who's that other weirdo, the one who maybe played a mute girl once?
none of them are as versatile as shelly duvall, but i guess they're weird.

Amanda Plummer another unconventionally attractive actress put out to pasture. Judy Greer could play either way, hot or weirdo.

ahhh judy greer. i like her.

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If they remake Carrie again but with a male lead I hope they avoid the obvious "Cary" and go with the more evocative "Carold."

Who's today's Shelley Duvall?

a friend nominates Greta Gerwig. haven't seen her enough to judge (ie, Baghead and Greenberg), she does have a certain awkwardness about her

Huge eye roll. Waaaaaay tooooo prettttty.

that was kind of my reaction

hahahaha

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Shelly did cheesecake too but I agree she's just stranger-looking

Who is the P.J. Soles in this version?

Gerwig can play the PJ part.

lol judy greer is playing the betty buckley role in this

who's billy nolan?

the nice white guy from chronicle

there was a profile of K Peirce in NYT Mag on Sunday... Carrie apparently doesnt kill on purpose in this one. :p

"had an allergic reaction to the pig's blood, looked up, everybody was dead. man teendom is HARD :/"

My other fave Di Palma

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-q5ZOEwjUFc0/UE1waBWGGvI/AAAAAAAAEbk/zHealSN21CI/s1600/Sisters.jpg

Not really a spoiler; the whole thing is the point

Expected this: http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/carrie-2013

Did not expect this: http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2013/10/carrie-2013.html

Honestly, would still be completely willing to shrug this off were it not for this, from the latter:

The irony of it is that DePalma's film shares the view of Carrie as a freak; Peirce's sees her as a little girl lost, eaten alive by the burden of fanaticism, class, beauty, biology. The DePalma is about Sue and Kris, the Peirce is about Carrie herself--and therein lies all the difference.

Plus the boys are cuter in the new one, I guess.

DePalma's film shares the view of Carrie as a freak; Peirce's sees her as a little girl lost, eaten alive by the burden of fanaticism, class, beauty, biology

totally disagree with this

insofar as that's a misreading of DePalma's version, that is

Yeah, I like a lot of what Chaw says, but he's absofuckinglutely nuts if he thinks this version is more about Carrie than the '76 version because, um, SISSY SPACEK!!

BTW, did I mention how totally pointless this new version is?

Billy Nolan is kinda cute, but Tommy Ross ain't really my type.

yeah I dunno how he thinks Spacek is upstaged by the supporting roles (great as they are), that's just bonkers. the focus is always on Carrie's untenable predicament, her endurance of abuse, confusion, etc.

xp

Billy Ross = Chronicle dude, right? Was mostly thinking of him.

Might see this if the opportunity presents itself, which means that it isn't all that likely that I'll see this.

Billy NOLAN. Heh.

Yep. I think he bulked up somewhat since then too.

Urge to see this rising...

(incidentally, how has there never been a Treehouse of Horror spoof with Lisa Simpson as Carrie? Unless of course there has been; I stopped watching these the moment Homer started farting spider webs.)

yeesh good call, provoked by the simpsons season 2 thread but w/ no actual simpsons on hand i watched the simpsons movie and then decided to give this years treehouse of horror a shot and wow, do not recommend. anyhow i watched a few clips from that last carrie remake and thought 'wow, how pointless was this'. i could see an argument that depalma's carrie is more about amy irving's character, w/ her and william katt and betty buckley representing these benign forces whose token gestures at righting a wrong only serve to make a situation worse. the original's on tonight on some channel. haven't read the book since i was a king fan as a preadolescent, remember it being a similar format to stoker's dracula, different formally than anything king really did after. since this is almost definitely the second best king adaptation it is odd that king has neither embraced it nor done his ott complaining about it like he has w/ the best king adaptation. i don't know if that's cuz carrie is a relatively minor work for him (unlike the shining) or if the vision isn't too far from his own, that there's more of him on the screen vs the shining. also now it seems to me this was a gussied up less blatant nerd revenge fantasy rewrite of rage. neverminding the movies and relative fame, the reason carrie is still in print while rage isn't is probably the same reason ppl keep being tempted to remake it - it's a way to make a hack entertainment that plays on columbine, etc. while keeping it sublimated enough to not draw outrage.

many xps
I always thought of Juliette Lewis as a plain Jane type, but she's not in the current crop of young actresses. Laura Dern too, for that matter.

Considering the trailer to this is basically the original film in a minute or two, in order, I was sort of hoping the film would pull a fast one and do something totally different. From reading that Pierce profile, however, it seems pretty mercenary. She needed the work, and probably needed something somewhat close to a hit, if she ever wanted to get funding for a more personal movie ever again. I've got to assume she did the best she could with the material, and she's got a good cast, but man, I don't want to see this.

I'm seeing this tonight. don't have high expectations but lately movies have been zen for me and hey it's a horror flick at least.

the reviews coming in are mostly mixed to negative, but better than I honestly expected.

welp this was pointless

girl that played Sue Snell had maybe 1.5 facial expressions.

Julianne Moore was relegated to doing actress karaoke, left to copy Piper Laurie's performance.

Moretz did a different take on Carrie, but went a little overboard with the apologia towards her mother in the second half.

also major LOLs at following the most intense 30 minutes of the movie with an epilogue that seems straight out of an AMC Family drama.

also Barry Shakaba Henley, gtfo at wasting your time playing an doofusy awkward principal.

Can't say I didn't warn you.

lol this is true

brody is a fan

ws Judy Greer

Seeing a disturbing if predictable trend of critics seizing the opportunity to talk about how De Palma's version was no good.

whether it was or wasn't (I love it), that it was a better film is pretty much inarguable, sooooooo.....

has Armond reviewed this yet?

who cares?

cos it'd probably be more entertaining than the movie was....

In fairness, I used to agree, but I just can't be bothered to read his crap anymore.

Who's today's Shelley Duvall?

Kristen Schaal

so sissy spacek in this movie may be my favourite performance of all time i've decided

Yes!

so fragile... tender... hopeful... horrified... horrifying... it's just magical

those moments at the prom where she's just starting to sort of relax and allow herself to get excited are just devastating

Pretty much every single actress I've ever seen tackle the role fail miserably once the prom scene is over. Only Spacek has managed the impossible task of re-earning audience sympathy.

(fails)

Did nobody else find that Chaw review unreadable? The sentences are tortured, the concepts muddled... basically a whole lot of head-shaking until I got to this and just gave up: "thank God she's 24 because I'd be going to jail". Yeah, I'm done.

i havent seen any of the others, i cant really imagine it even being possible to make a movie that audacious today

"thank God she's 24 because I'd be going to jail".

whoa he had sex with her

spacek so great.

I love Chaw, and his review was strong enough to almost make me wanna see a movie I don't care one bit about, but yeah, he needs to knock that shit off.

This is indeed the version of Carrie for those (like Peirce) who found De Palma's take "campy." Problem is, the lack of pop smirk makes it a lot duller, too. While I've always found the playfulness of De Palma's film problematic, watching this dour version highlights just how much his tricks give the emotional ugliness of the material its punch. I found the movie watchable, but never uncomfortable, and it wasn't until just now that I realized how integral discomfort was to Carrie's effect.

Moretz is a strange case--she seems way more comfortable in the sweet (pre-massacre) prom scenes than in any of the darker stuff, which I guess makes her ill suited for Carrie. Moore didn't register with me at all--Neanderthal's comment upthread about her doing "actress karaoke" pretty much nails it. In fairness, both actresses are in the unenviable positions of having to follow, and evoke, what are by now a couple of pretty iconic performances. The boys fared better for me, but then again a) they're cuter than William Katt and John Travolta, and b) Katt and his stupid hair always seemed to me to be about as far away from "dreamy," by any standards, as one could get.

The film also forces something of a happy ending re: the Sue character. Can't recall if this detail was in the novel or not, though.

I haven't seen this but why they never tapped Clea DuVall to play Carrie when she was younger still mystifies me - she is much more of a Carrie type, and she has great range

kinda too old to play high school now tho :(

#missedopportunities

I still say the only acceptable new version of Carrie would be a Treehouse of Horror spoof with Lisa as Carrie.

Saw it at the Lightbox last night. One of the mid-sized theatres, only half full. My friend had seen Robocop there a few nights ago, and that was sold out. I don't get it.

My single favourite moment: when William Katt, sitting between Betty Buckley and Amy Irving ("We don't care what we look like, do we?") shrugs his shoulders helplessly and giggles. Favourite shot: the high overhead entrance of Carrie and Tommy at the prom, everyone dancing and that excellent, cheesy glam/metal/pop band playing their "Smokin' in the Boys Room" rewrite. Seeing it in a theatre for the first time in a while, some of the chaotic climax seemed a little less convincing--death by malevolent hose for at least a couple of people. (But Betty Buckley's spectacular as always.) Also took more notice of the how sappy the slow-dance prom song is--it's the one piece of music in the film that's weak.

I read the novel for a university essay way back when. My recollection is that it was a fairly ordinary stepping-off point. I'm still amazed at how much invention, humour, and feeling De Palma brought to it. (Spacek gets most of the credit for the feeling.)

it's incredible. i'm watching it for the 100th time now and i'm still scared bc it's perfect and devastating.

if someone is awake and can offer support pls let me know thx

ok i made it thru.

r u ok

it still makes me feel like i've ~lived through something~. i felt such a weird kinship to carrie in the book & spacek just nails that acute betrayal so well, it leaves me reeling & full of tears every time

definitely ok and yes i feel you re: living through something. funnily enough i was just wondering again about the 'live through this' cover connection. it really does look like Chris on the cover.

it does! i always thought of it as a nod

i don't know how sissy could go to that emotional place so well without doing real damage mentally but god love her for putting that on screen

def a nod. apparently Leilani Bishop is actually the girl on the cover and is in a movie with Joan Rivers from 2000 called Intern http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0202989/ (not a lead)

also yes Spacek does that for a few roles, it is baffling.

Halloween, 20 years ago
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!!

awesome

saw this tonight at a local “micro”cinema ie v small rep theater w 25 seats

still so fucking good

the split screen stuff in the prom is so effective, i really like how they used that

ragsdale is so good in the scenes w carrie, all his interactions feel really natural & genuine

nancy allen is such a hottie

also shoutout Edie McClurg as one of the mean girls! aka Ed Rooney’s secretary in Ferris Bueller “he’s a righteous dude”

THEYRE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU

You've got me stumped on ragsdale...Tommy Ross/William Katt?

fuuucking hell talk about a brainfart jezus

KATT

WILLIAM KATT

thx clemenza

i can't with this film, i couldn't then and i can't now

it's too terrifying

but then why do i watch it every other year with rote and rupturus horror

Didn't realize there was a William Ragsdale, or I would have figured that out without asking--I remember that show, Herman's Head. I did discover there are a number of Carrie Ragsdales out there in the world when I searched that.

William Ragsdale ably played the protagonist the original Fright Night movies.

Also, the original novel turned 50 in the last couple weeks (!!)

crazy

i wouldn’t mind rereading the novel again, i havent done that in a while