Red Sox vs. Yankees this weekend.....

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Ahhhh I love weekends like this. Go Sox!

― Chris, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

There's nothing quite like watching the Red Sox fade in the second half!

― J Blount, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

aaargh.

― Chris, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sox are set up fine - don't listen to him, Chris.

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

There's nothing quite like watching the Red Sox fade in the second half! , well at least we have pure talent and don't need to buy a championship every time Georgie loses.

― Chris, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"pure talent" = Offerman, Nixon, Varitek, Sanchez, Daubach? I think these guys are more lovable pluggers than they are "talented". Of course if you want to talk about our marquee players I won't argue. But they ARE being paid handsomely.

The prospect of Dustin Hermanson finally getting into the rotation leaves me distinctly unexcited. I'm thrilled about Embree though - he could be the tonic that the middle relief needs - and not just against lefties.

Other things: ver Sox have better up-the-middle defense than I can ever remember. I mean, they can turn a double play! *gapes* ... They have actual pitchers: Pedro, Lowe, Embree, Oogie. Remember they had even less pitching the last time they went to the Series (Bruce Hurst played the Derek Lowe part, but was really not at the same level; their relief consisted of Schiraldi and Stanley Steamer). And they have at least 2 guys who can steal a base which, again, I can't remember them ever having. So I'm optimistic. But then, I would be.

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

well, not pure talent with the likes of the bums mentioned, but the marquee players, absolutely! Im worried about the Embree elbow situation even though Dr. Morgan dismissed it as nothing. I still think we need an upgrade at firstbase and Thome would be great, but all is a loss come strike time (if there is one) or season end. They wouldn't resign him and lose Trot and Fossum in the process. So I like the idea of getting a Derrick Lee and Kevin Millar from Florida as well as maybe Paul Byrd from K.C. They won't guarantee a win in the series but its an upgrade from Tony Clark. I mean "bottom of the ninth, bases loaded, one out red sox need the run to win the series...now batting Tony Clark" doesn't exactly thrill me.

― Chris, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

We need Ally in here talking some smack.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought she's a Mets fan. Fuck the Yankees. And the Red Sox!

― Kris, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

We try to keep the New Yorkers at bay.

― Chris, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"bottom of the ninth, bases loaded, one out red sox need the run to win the series" - haha Chris it doesn't matter WHO's at the plate in that situation - there is only one outcome, you know it in your heart - Yaz pops up etc

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

double play.

― Chris, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

although that situation sounds better with Tony Clark thrown in. Insert "Mike Lansing" and I throw up.

― Chris, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mike Lansing was a one-man refutation of the argument that steroids enhance performance.

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

no shit.

― Chris, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

unsurprisingly i am with kris on this one

i wish it was still basketball season

― geeta, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought she's a Mets fan.

I think she uses them as backup.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I really like the idea of Vince Clarke and Alison Moyet hitting into a double-play.

― Dan Perry, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

go giants

― bc, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

*Cue Die Valkerie*

― JM, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

well at least we have pure talent and don't need to buy a championship - yeah the Red Sox farm system really blows the Yanks away.

― J Blount, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I watched Mark Prior at Wrigley today.

― felicity, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

JB - Los Yanquis have the best farm system in baseball - it can't be a coincidence they they also have the most money. Plus, theoretically, the Sox have the best farm system ever since they've managed to trade it all away!

― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"since" = "because"

― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

cry for the poor red sox but then how are they giving manny ramirez 160 million? mike lansing couldn't hit the ball out of coors field even while taking steroids.

― keith, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This series so far: Red Sox 1 game

Yankees 0!

― Chris, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Alfonso Soriano!

― J Blount, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

friday night game in Brooklyn bar, directly following Oogie's last strikeout - "alright sit em down, there ya go!" - the decibel level rises a bit. numbers are discussed. some dude challenges some other dude: "what'd you say about Spencer?" everyone sort of pauses out of the corners of their eyes to see how this interloper's going to respond. "I said he's a good hitter. and he's clutch!" general appeased sounds and grunting over beer. "but he didn't have it tonight, and i'm glad! cause i fuckin HATE the yankees!!"

― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ahhh, good old Wayne Gomes. Godamn it. And when is Nomar going to start hitting again. All tied up folks, todays the money game.

― Chris, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Are there any Red Sox fans out there who can give me a concise history of all I need to know about the game yesterday and the team in general?

I am a complete British ignoramus on this subject, but have a bit of an internet crush on a man in Boston who is a die-hard Red Sox fan and I would like to sound interested/vaguely knowledgeable when I next flirt with him.

p.s. I have just re-read the above and realise that it makes me sound very shallow and silly. I'm not - really. But I am certain that a little Red Sox insider info would help me enormously here.

What do I need to know? Thanks!!!

― C J, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

CJ - the Red Sox are a baseball team. they play on the oldest field in the Major Leagues (the top-tier professional leagues). it's a very cosy park called Fenway Park. every baseball park has a wall. if you hit the ball over the wall you get a "home run", or a free trip around the bases, scoring both you and anyone else who happened to already be on a base at the time. now, Landsdowne St. cuts right behind the Park, and the field couldn't extend beyond this street. a huge extension was added to the wall in front of Landsdowne St. because it was so close that hitters would get the ball over too easily. for awhile it was covered with advertisements but eventually it was just painted green, and now it's called The Green Monster! everybody always says the Park's about to fall over or crumble but it never quite does. see savefenwaypark.com for more details.

Boston's dreaded rivals have always been the New York Yankees - sort of the Manchester United of baseball - so ver Sox are the good guys by definition. to go further here may be too painful however. (in a game typified by failure - the very best hitters don't hit the ball 7 out of 10 times - the Red Sox excel at failing spectacularly. so in that sense they are maybe the essence of baseball)

― Tracer hand, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Thank you Tracer!!! This is just the sort of thing I need to know. You are an absolute star, and I am very very grateful to you indeed for taking the time to reply.

*C J does a happy dance*

― C J, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

but what are you asking us for anyway? ask HIM! ask him about 1986! wait on second thought, don't. don't ask him about 1978 either. as a matter of fact, this flirting methodology might be flawed. instead of noticing your unique charms he could become morbidly depressed.

― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ROFL!!!

Perhaps you are right - although I have already managed to work "green monster" into an IM conversation with him and he is now STUNNED and AMAZED, so the plan to show him that I am Full Of Surprises seems to be working okay at the moment.

;-)

― C J, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hurrah for CJ! He'll be lighting candles to an icon of you next. ;-)

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

CJ, whatever you do, don't mention The Curse! And good luck.

― felicity, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Curse? What is The Curse? You have to tell me Felicity!!!

What if I go and accidentally say something which is misconstrued as something to do with the curse? Heavens! The man hardly talks to me as it is, this could ruin everything!

I somehow think this whole crush thing is doomed before it even starts.

― C J, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Just mention how much you love Bucky Dent and you'll do fine.

― J Blount, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The above is a joke - for God's sake don't mention Bucky Dent. If you want to get in good say "How the hell is Dwight Evans not in the Hall?" and follow-up with "And where's Luis Tiant? What the hell?!!!"

― J Blount, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Try to avoid any trajectory in the conversation that might lead to the combination of the words, "Ruthful babe."

― Leee, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

And I forgot to mention, BEAT LA. Thank you.

― Leee, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

CJ, it wouldn't be right for me to tell you about the Red Sox curse because I would get the details wrong and never hear the end of it from the likes of Chris, Tracer and Raposa. You might try a google search that incorporates "Babe Ruth," "No No Nanette," and "1918" -- for some reason those words are supposed to drive Red Sox Nation into fits of rage (and in Raposa's case, meta-rage).

If you enjoy baseball curses, may I recommend the Chicago Cubs. Ours has a billy goat. :P

― felicity, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ah, now this puts me in mind of 1984, when the Cubs *almost* got to the series...but a certain team from a certain more-or-less hometown of mine put paid to that.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

oh we love the curse, it's the only thing that keeps us going - it's so bad that a Boston man claims to have located a piano, sunk at the bottom of his pond out back, that the Babe supposedly flung there off his porch one night at a party. his working theory is that if he can somehow hoist it out a magic pulley will be triggered in the sky and suddenly the Red Sox will be champions of the World.

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 22 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ned, if I recall correctly, 1984 had little to do with the Padres and everything to do with a &^$**$%# black cat!

― felicity, Monday, 22 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Bucky Dent, I went deep sea fishing with Mr Dent when I was twelve. He was a friend of a client of my father. I almost pushed him overboard, instead I got sea sick and threw up on his shoes. All I have to say is TROT NIXON IS THE SHIT. That was a friggin joke. Bring on Tampa Bay. CJ, do not bring up 1986. He may take your head off...

― Chris, Monday, 22 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Or I may take it off for him...hehe. Tracer is right we love the curse...it gives us an easy out (when we don't win shit). Famous last words for a die hard Red Sox fan CJ...."Wait til next year."

― Chris, Monday, 22 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Jose f*@n Offerman! His swing is HORRIBLE! He looks doped or sleepy or something. His judgement's impaired too - stealing THIRD in a tie game in the 9th??? Subtract Offerman's 3-pitch strikeouts, his dropped foul balls, his HORRIBLE baserunning decisions and we win both games.

6 MILLION A YEAR.

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 22 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You can call them heartbreakers if you want to, but this was one of the most exciting weekends I've ever spent in the game of baseball. I don't know if it's just us being snakebit or them just having some Irish luck. (Grady Little)

Nice thread, btw. I hope to be at Fenway sometime in August. Not quite sure when yet, tho'.

― Jeff W, Monday, 22 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

For some reason, I think the death of #9 will have a positive spin on the curse and we'll win the World Series. But this is most likely a sleep deprived hallucination.

― Chris, Monday, 22 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Chris, maybe you're right but isn't 22 runs going a bit overboard?

― felicity, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Devil Rays have their revenge! Happy Birthday Nomar!

― J Blount, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If "Everyday Shea" had just walked a couple of times it'd be 30. What a bonkers game! Better to be at Fenway for that, I think, enjoying the day. Not much suspense after the third! The second game was far more satisfying, dramatically. If the Red Sox were a character in a play who would they be?

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

One of the barflies in The Iceman Cometh

― J Blount, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Shit this deserves another thread - everybody follow me!

― J Blount, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...

"Delicious" is the word, I believe.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 July 2003 12:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow - for a second there, I thought the above posts were from 2002, and I thought to myself, "Dear God Lansing and Gomes and Offerman?!?!" Oh, those were dire days - thank Ruth for Theo Epstein. Bullpen shenanigans notwithstanding, the hitters he acquired are superhott & recent bullpen acquisitions (Sauerbeck, Jones, that Kim guy - & hey, bring up his "success" against the Yankees one more time asswipes) haven't been too embarrassing. (Dear Red Sox: Plz put Kim in the rotation ASAP. Love, daver.)

Last night's ESPN broadcast featured a cameo appearance from the ESPN Deportes crew & graphical package (which looked like a cable access broadcast, crappy camera work & lack of graphical doodads included). Unfortunately, the feed to the usual SNB shenanigans was restored. Rick Sutcliffe needs to shut the eff up & go sit in the Time Out corner w/ McCarver & Buck for the rest of the season w/ a dirty jock strap sitting on his hair. It's his fault I missed both Varitek's & Damon's homer.

I liked Manny's catch.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 28 July 2003 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

pfft i'm rooting for the phillies these days

― Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 28 July 2003 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

pfft have fun watching them lose the wildcard to a fish or snake or bird or ursine creature (winky)

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 28 July 2003 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

"Thank Ruth," I like that. Anyway, shit, yeah! I've missed both fucking games so far -- Saturday I slept in, and although I didn't sleep through the whole game, I was still waking up slowly enough that I forgot it was on Fox, not NESN; Sunday I was out at dinner having Greek food.

But goddamn, thank God for ESPN and the highlights.

― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 28 July 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

17 to 8? 17 to 8? Bologna!

― Remy (x Jeremy), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:05 (twenty-one years ago)

19-8 at the moment. =)

― lyra (lyra), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)

they went for two? boston/new england still has the best football team.

― keith m (keithmcl), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

one more game till boston tastes ... well, you know what. wait till tomorrow night!!!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:34 (twenty-one years ago)

and i'm not even a NATIVE NEW YAWKUH -- wait'll the REAL new yorkers show up!!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:35 (twenty-one years ago)

**********SOB**********

― Remy (x Jeremy), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

spurs look good to beat portsmouth on monday.....

― darragh.mac (darragh.mac), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoot, 19-8 final!!!

I'm native New Joisey, but not the real deal on a native New Yawkah, sorry. 3rd generation yankee fan though. I made a special trip to Whole Foods today in order to get bagels to eat while watching the game, and since it worked so well, I will have to repeat this for all the next games!

One of my friends at work who grew up in the Bronx & now lives out here is the biggest Yankees fan I know. He was playing up the pissed off Bronx accent when the last game was rained out, which was too too too funny; I almost fell off my chair cracking up at it. I think he was worrying the native seattleites, though. ;-)

― lyra (lyra), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I was intercutting the NY / SOX game, cheap merlot, and 'My Neighbor Totoro' and I'm not sure, in total honesty, to which of these three my tears belong. Also: It is raining in LA!

― Remy (x Jeremy), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:44 (twenty-one years ago)

my real team are the phillies, and over the years i've shed enough tears for THEM to overflow the delaware and the schuylkill and STILL have enough to fill the hudson and the east rivers. so on one hand, i know where sox fans are coming from.

on the other hand, my second team are the yankees. and this is jay-z vs. nas time.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)

19_8

(yanks fill in the blank tomorrow)

― John (jdahlem), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

jay-z vs. nas time. is, in itself, one for teh recordbooks.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

a whole buncha boston-oriented threads are gonna REVIVE ... unless the sox pull a miracle outta their butts the size of pedro's mango tree.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Lots of nice Mosts in this game (from nytimes.com article, so yell at them not me if these are wrong):
* most runs by Yankees in a postseason game
*second most in postseason history; Boston scored 23 against Cleveland in Game 4 of the 1999 division series
* eight doubles = most in a postseason game in 79 years

And they threw in a baseball voodoo paragraph:

Before Saturday, sixty-one times in baseball history, a team has fallen behind by 3-0 in a best-of-seven-game series. All 61 times, that team has lost the series. Nothing in Boston baseball is considered a coincidence, so it may have been bad karma that the Red Sox started a pitcher, Bronson Arroyo, who wears No. 61.

― lyra (lyra), Sunday, 17 October 2004 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Admittedly, the first 5 innings belonged in a Game For The Ages.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Sunday, 17 October 2004 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't get to see too much of the beginning, I was cooking risotto for dinner for my friend. Well, I saw smidges over my shoulder, but not much. Didn't get to pay any attention until right before Sheffield's homer breaking the tie. My risotto didn't even come out all the well in the end...

― lyra (lyra), Sunday, 17 October 2004 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Just remember: bad things happen to teams that beat the Sox. I expect the Yankees to lose the WS again this year and maybe have either Jeter, A-Rod or Rivera suffer some sort of freak injury in the offseason that will render them mediocrities for the '05 season.

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Sunday, 17 October 2004 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

but the yankees will probably sign nomar(he claims he wants to play second base) and beltran in the offseason.

― keith m (keithmcl), Sunday, 17 October 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

and then clement, pedro, and pavano to beef up the rotation. maybe put one of them in the bullpen.

contrary to popular belief, the yankees actually have a limit. according to some, they're operating on the edge of it right now. beltran's a must sign, but so is a very good starting pitcher or two, and they don't shed any weight this offseason. next year they'll likely have to operate at a loss, with bernie as a 12M dollar fourth outfielder. it'll be fun to listen to the press yap about that one.

― John (jdahlem), Sunday, 17 October 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

a whole buncha boston-oriented threads are gonna REVIVE ... unless the sox pull a miracle outta their butts the size of pedro's mango tree.

ill be sure to revive the thread where i tell you it's a small world mofo and you shut up nice and fast.
nahh i wont bother, why go that low?

i was at ministry,thrill kill kult last night. much much better.

― kephm, Sunday, 17 October 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

part of me thinks "poor Red Sox", but mostly I'm hoping they wait to win their World Series until the Cubs win one, because if Boston takes it first, then the curse is all on the North Side.

― Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 17 October 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't watch it. I'm glad about that, in retrospect.

What all the talkers talk about, how no team has ever come back from 3-0 in the postseason, is that plenty of teams have won four games in a row. (The '96 Yankees come to mind.)

And what the curse-mavens forget is that every numerological omen can be flipped: so Bronson was wearing number 61? Doesn't that mean that THIS IS THE YEAR?

xpost: yeah, if Boston won the world series it would necessarily herald the apocalypse, which would almost certainly be in some way connected to a second term for Bush, so.. count yr blessings?

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Sunday, 17 October 2004 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

It's almost impossible to feel sorry for Boston, but it's REALLY REALLY easy to hate the Yankees.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 17 October 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Especially after seeing some baldheaded Billy Corgan on crack (or poss. Billy Corgan himself) hopping around on VH1's "Best Week Ever" squealing "WHOSYOURDADDYWHOSYOURDADDY" like a cockatiel on nitrous

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Monday, 18 October 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

gettin' ready to TASTE IT, bosox fans?!?!?!?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 18 October 2004 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm starting to hate Arod.

I can't believe he could have been on the Red Sox but is on the Yankees.

Start scoring some runs Sox!!! My God!

― Aja (aja), Monday, 18 October 2004 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I need to switch dinner from ravioli to a bagel- Sox just got 3 runs, so they now lead.
:(

― lyra (lyra), Monday, 18 October 2004 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

The communist sanitary hose of the Boston team will throttle New York's capitalism! ARISE!!!

xpost lyra what are you doing.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Chris V's question up there at the top is like it's from another planet.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoot, come back with my bagel SMOOTHERED in cream cheese, we're tied 3-3. ok. Im going to gain 5 pounds from this bagel, it better help us win. :-P

― lyra (lyra), Monday, 18 October 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Watch the Red Sox sweep four, take the Cards/Astros to game 7 and then lose in the 9th inning. 15,000 suicides across New England

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 18 October 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Which question? "Ahhhh I love weekends like this. Go Sox! " isn't a question, unless I've forgotten grammar, which of course be possible...

― lyra (lyra), Monday, 18 October 2004 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

It turned out to be more of a question than I thought.

milo that's very true: in a way this is the least painful option available. Although maybe not in the pride department.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

(resigned whimper)

― Remy (x Jeremy), Monday, 18 October 2004 02:52 (twenty-one years ago)

uh oh ... you may have whimpered too soon ...

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

AAAAAAARRRRRRGGGHHHH.

― lyra (lyra), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

LYRA: THIS BLOOD IS ON YOUR HANDS.

and eisbar you son of a bitch have you no superstition????

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I need another bagel! Next time, I'm picking up extra. :-P

― lyra (lyra), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Bases loaded. Fuck.

― lyra (lyra), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:13 (twenty-one years ago)

If they lose tonight, Cabrera's never coming back to Boston.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:16 (twenty-one years ago)

assuming he makes it out of the stadium

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:16 (twenty-one years ago)

this is gonna be a long night ... at least rivera got out of a bases-loaded jam that he created ...

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Part of me thinks the fans here in New England secretly want the curse to go on, because once it is over, there will be less excitement and mystique surrounding the team. I work a couple of blocks from Fenway Park, and the pregame hysteria (which starts hours before any Red Sox Home Game) always makes for an interesting walk home.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah, this game will definitely be going for a while. As if 4 hours wasn't enough....

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

it'll be over by the end of the next inning.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

no, you are wrong

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

What's the most number of innings in a post-season game?

― lyra (lyra), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

(whimper)

― lyra (lyra), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Austin Powers has entered the game

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

And now he's out. His Mojo wasn't working for sure.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Austin Powers is going up against Godzilla. :-)

― lyra (lyra), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, that was quick...

― lyra (lyra), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Now I hope you are right, John

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, it ate my Austin Powers image. :-P

― lyra (lyra), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think you can do that xpost

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

haha

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Hooray!

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

premature but whatever, you all know i'm right.

― Allyzay, Monday, 18 October 2004 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

AAAAAARRRRRGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

― lyra (lyra), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

oh well, the sox got their ONE WIN.

enjoy it while it lasts ... for tomorrow night shall come hee hee hee ;-)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Well I guess it's a moral victory of some sort. Now the Yankees will just come out and win 75-3 tomorrow and make everyone in Boston forget how great they felt tonight. But whatever.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

enjoy the victory for about 12 hours or so cause later today is when ... BOSTON TASTES NEW YORK'S CAPITALISM HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HO HO

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:32 (twenty-one years ago)

If one Yankee can get Lou Gehrig's disease, why can't they all?

― the lowest I will ever sink in a baseball argument (natepatrin), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

(that was uncalled for but keep in mind I have to work with the world's biggest Yankee dork, plus Yankee fan smugness + emoticons = HULK SMASH reaction)

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:35 (twenty-one years ago)

too about 'bout the twins

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:36 (twenty-one years ago)

too BAD, i mean. too bad about the TWINS ...

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:37 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, too bad they traded David Ortiz, ha ha ha

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:38 (twenty-one years ago)

david ortiz has no neck!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Neither did Puckett (also #34, also kill you w/game-winning homers)

I should really stop taunting Yankee fans. One can never underestimate the irrational fury that can be contained inside the fanboy of a team that lost a World Series to the Florida Marlins.

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:44 (twenty-one years ago)

the yanquis are a team of destiny.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:50 (twenty-one years ago)

(this is really just a continuation of the hijinks from the "boston: classic or dirty water" thread -- y'all realize that, yes?)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:51 (twenty-one years ago)

There are three teams I can't understand rooting for:
the Yanquis
the Miami Hurricanes
the Shaq+Kobe+auction-block-HOFers Lakers
(standard exceptions apply - growing up in the Bronx, LA or attending Miami)

With most teams, fandom says something, has an aesthetic quality (esp. Boston!) - but those three seem to impart no personality, it's just rooting for the presumed winner.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

well you don't have to worry about the Lakers any more.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:54 (twenty-one years ago)

ditto what stence said re the lakers.

and why isn't rooting for the redsox NOT bandwagon-hopping (if said "fan" has no geographic nexus w/ the redsox)? i can see rooting for them (or anyone else) when they play the yankees -- but after that, why if yer not from new england?!?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

And the Yankees do have personality. I'm rooting for the Sox, but the Yankees are way more than just some off-the-shelf franchise. Even their pricey baubles (A-rod, Sheffield) are interesting pricey baubles. Joe Torre's face alone has more personality than some entire teams.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:58 (twenty-one years ago)

well Torre is unique in that as a player he hit into a lot of double plays...

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 18 October 2004 05:00 (twenty-one years ago)

for me it's more simple who to root for, just based on weird likes/dislikes/whathaveyou

Yankees I like:

Mussina
Matsui
Sheffield (sort of)

Yankees I despise:

all the rest (and esp. A-Rod, dude always looks like he's going to cry).

I can't think of that many Red Sox players I actively hate.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 18 October 2004 05:01 (twenty-one years ago)

not even pedro?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 18 October 2004 05:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't hate a man with a jheri curl.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 18 October 2004 05:05 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not (just) about bandwagon hopping - it's the playoffs, everyone's a-hopping. But the Yankees as a cultural force just don't say anything. When they win, none of them do it with style - it's very corporate, clean and all-American.

The Red Sox are tied up in history and pageantry (even down to the stadium - the Green Monster v. what?), they've got some style. Or the Pistons last year - tough, scrappy, underdogs, rejects - support for them had an element of personality (even if that was just contrarianism). The nu-NFL doesn't have any of this thanks to the salary cap, I don't know enough about college football or hockey to think of a team.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 18 October 2004 05:08 (twenty-one years ago)

hmm, I wouldn't claim that Yankee Stadium has no individuality or uniqueness (then again I don't like going to see games there either, but that's more about the fans).

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 18 October 2004 05:10 (twenty-one years ago)

also the best thing about the NFL is the parity - fuck seeing the same team win every year (ie. why I hate the Yankees).

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 18 October 2004 05:11 (twenty-one years ago)

tough, scrappy, underdogs, rejects

then you should love the oakland raiders (though al davis may be an obstacle).

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 18 October 2004 05:12 (twenty-one years ago)

also the best thing about the NFL is the parity - fuck seeing the same team win every year

whatchoo got against the cowboys or the niners?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 18 October 2004 05:13 (twenty-one years ago)

see that's why dynasties had to be stopped, because you thought of those teams first and not the the Packers or the Steelers.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 18 October 2004 05:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Football bores me too much to watch regularly or root for anyone. I pick favorite players based on Madden performance (BEN ROETHLISBERGER YOU MY BOY)

Dynasties are great, I don't begrudge the Yankees any of their wins. Dynasties make sports more interesting (as long as there's enough movement in the league so that some teams aren't just jokes), like having the same players for an entire career on one team. (reconciling that with yay free agency and hating the owners is difficult) Would Ted Williams/Lou Gehrig/Walter Payton/Larry Bird carry the same mystique if they'd played on five teams?

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 18 October 2004 05:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Yankees are just what I grew up with- I can't imagine summer evenings as a kid without watching the games with my dad. Probably helped that he was a little league coach, like my grandpa, and so summer in our house == baseball.

― lyra (lyra), Monday, 18 October 2004 05:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't conceive of anyone liking Mussina, who's more of a tightass crybaby than A-Rod ever will be.

I used to like Posada but somewhere along the line he caught Jeter's po-faced arrogance and now it's part of him.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 08:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Do they really need to prolong the fucking agony? End it for me all ready. Make my birthday a special one and end it!

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Monday, 18 October 2004 09:56 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: "Let's go Yankees" vs. "The Beatles are the greatest rock and roll band of all time"

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Monday, 18 October 2004 10:49 (twenty-one years ago)

they have a championship pedigree.

http://www.netherbrooklyn.com/youse/dogshow.jpg

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 11:05 (twenty-one years ago)

how are yankees players any more "corporate" than any other team (aside from, what, the facial hair)? and even if they are, why is suppression of individualism for the acheivement of a unified goal necesarily a bad thing? isn't there something kind of noble in that, esp. when these guys are being paid millions of dollars to win ballgames (for, depending on how you look at it, george steinbrenner or the least-insipidly-bourgeois-in-baseball fans at YS)?

also, (pretending again for a moment it's true) how are the professional, clean-cut yankees any worse than gimmicky, schtik filled sox? don't you think this forced dichotomy the sox desperately try to set up every year is a little tiresome?

and what is it that really seperates these players? david ortiz could've be a yankee. so could've ramirez. hell, so could pedro, after this year. if they all were, what would that change, other than that the yanks would have some annoying doofuses (who may or may not have conformed to the image) who can also mash the fucking ball and win ballgames?

as far as i can tell, people don't like the yankees because they: i)win, ii)don't have much facial hair.

people don't like the yankees because they win.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 11:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Shilling could have been a Yankee this year too. And obviously A-Rod could have been a Sox.

The Sox defense last night was pitiful, and if the Yanks wouldn't have left a dozen people stranded this series would (finally) be over and we could go back to making fun of Boston again.

It's not the Yankees fault that they have so much money to blow on players--maybe if they weren't worth a $100M+ television contract then we could call the thing unfair. But until MLB (and more importantly, the player's union) decides to further socialize their system, anyone who has money to spare will be competitive. People hate the Yankees not only because they win but because they spend so much doing it.

― don carville weiner, Monday, 18 October 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The Yankees have seemed so inevitable for the past few years, that it's hard to believe that from 1982-1994, they didn't even make it to the playoffs. It would be nice to see a more even playing field for teams, perhaps by increasing the amount of profit-sharing. I don't like salary caps, because that basically helps the owners pad their profits at the expense of the players.

― o. nate (onate), Monday, 18 October 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm a little tired of the Yankees spend too much argument. The Red Sox spend nearly as much and certainly would love to spend more. They're not the Little Engine that Could, they're just as wrapped up in the chase for better players as the Yanks are.

The difference is, the Red Sox don't know how to win, don't have a killer instinct, are tentative, afraid, feel the pressure. When it comes down to it, they aren't professional enough to win. Look at Pudge, look at the Arizona pitchers from a few years ago, these teams had players that transcended the moment and changed the series. The Yanks can get that from anywhere -- they're veterans, they thrive on playoff baseball, they are a well-assembled crew of winners, where self-confidence has given way to arrogance, probably. That is a scary thing and comes off as bully-ish. The Red Sox don't have 'IT' and, yes, Ortiz stepped it up, but it's a little late for that.

The truth is, I'd love to see the Sox come back and start hitting like they've been hitting all season. It's good baseball when both teams are on fire. They're much better than they've been playing. Man, they made Mussina look good that first game by being called out on strikes over and over again. Swing away.

― mcd (mcd), Monday, 18 October 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

yanks'll choke in the world series like always.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 18 October 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Right, like always, except for the other 26 times, or however many it is.

― mcd (mcd), Monday, 18 October 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

like always this century. they'll roll into the series and get knocked aside by an nl team with half the press (half the mileage too) and twice the talent. the cards or the astros will take you guys in six at most.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 18 October 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't believe I'm defending the Yankees. I don't even really like them. Sorry, guys.

― mcd (mcd), Monday, 18 October 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

"We are treated to all sorts of attacks, especially here, on the Red Sox, and the big ideas they had about beating the Yankees in the playoffs the way they did in the regular season. The Red Sox, we are told, don't have the talent to beat the Yankees, the character, the professionalism. They will never beat the Yankees, we hear that, too. This is supposed to be another one of those referendums on Yankee pride and championship pedigree and superiority and all the rest of it. Now that everything has gone right for them in the first two games and everything has gone wrong for the Red Sox.

But let me ask a question: Who in this world would have picked the Red Sox to beat the Yankees if they knew Curt Schilling was hurt as badly as he is?

The answer is that no one in their right mind would have picked the Red Sox. So the idea that the Red Sox can't back up their own big mouths is merely ridiculous, unless you think it's some sort of footnote that they don't have the one guy they thought could make the difference against the Yankees.

Turn it around and take away the Yankees' difference maker, Mariano Rivera. How are the Yankees doing in this series without Rivera, even with Schilling hurt? You think Tom Gordon was a sure thing to get out of that eighth-inning jam, David Ortiz on third and the Game 1 now just 8-7 for the Yankees? I don't. Joe Torre didn't. He called for Rivera. Rivera popped up Kevin Millar to get out of the eighth, then he got Bill Mueller to hit into a double play to end it in the ninth, with two guys on.

Rivera is the weapon nobody else has. Again: That is why his two October failures - against the Indians in 1997, in Game 7 against the Diamondbacks in 2001 - are viewed as epic. Because he is never supposed to fail. He gets the save. Or he gets the win."

- Mike Lupica, NY Daily News

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't get to see many games on TV, but listen to them on radio almost every night. Why can't ESPN pair Jon Miller with Dave Campbell???? Joe Morgan is an idiot who makes observations I could have made when I was 7. UGH.

― tobo (tobo), Monday, 18 October 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Jon Miller is my favorite announcer. What a light touch.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, "commentator." He almost reminds me of Willie Nelson.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

It's funny, I love Jon Miller but he's probably my 3rd favorite Giants announcer.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 October 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

mike lupica is my least favorite hack

but yeah miller's good

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Vin Scully is the best, there's really no argument. Never plays the homer either, which is amazing.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 October 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway about yankee-hating, it's totally understandable but ultimately petty (and would you honestly prefer they conducted themselves like erickson's canes, the 72-74 a's, or the piston's bad boys? didn't think so). but also the crux of the "yankees are good for baseball" argument - if you don't have someone to root for, at least you have someone to root against - so keep on keepin' on guys, in the end, as with all else, it comes back to us.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I cant believe Vin has been the dodgers announcer since they moved from Brooklyn..

― still bevens (bscrubbins), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Meanwhile, yet another 9th-inning showdown...

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

CRIPES

― kephm, Monday, 18 October 2004 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Foulke is so loose. It's incredible. If Rivera is this generation's Rod Carew, Foulke is it's ...

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

IT IS

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

For the uninitiated:

I Love Baseball New Answers

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Can Orlando Cabrera spell choke? YES HE CAN

Two nights in a row.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

and yet another 12th inning showdown...

― joseph pot (STINKOR™), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

wow the red sox love to hit into double plays..

― still bevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Cabrera suXors again. Wonder if they miss Nomah yet?

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

and David Ortiz almost becomes God in Boston.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)

get rid of the "almost"

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

holy shit

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

david FUCKING ortiz ...

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:59 (twenty-one years ago)

ah well, tomorrow night's at YANKEE STADIUM ... THE TEMPLE OF CAPITALISM

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:59 (twenty-one years ago)

haha. eat shit, a-rod and jeter!

― joseph pot (STINKOR™), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

WAHOOFUCKERS!

― Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

(but i'm gonna be in communicado till 9:30 PM tomorrow night, and then on a train from 10:30 PM till 1 AM -- so SOMEONE ELSE is gonna have to be the obnoxious yankee fan should the yankees win tomorrow!)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

More clutch TS - Beltran or Ortiz?

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

obnoxious yankee fan

a bit redundant

― joseph pot (STINKOR™), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

why couldn't terry francona have been this good when he was the phillies' manager?!?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)

WTF?? Arrrrrgggh. Arrgh. Argh. And I made a special run to Whole Foods over lunch to get a nice salt bagel!

Is the next game tomorrow night? After tonight, they're all going to be worn out...

― lyra (lyra), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, it's tomorrow night in NYC, no travel day thanks to rainout on Friday.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

What's with Ortiz's chinstrap beard? A homosexualized San Franciscan wants to know.

― Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

It's to keep the fatness in place. Big Papa got even tubbier during the season!

― Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 04:55 (twenty-one years ago)

oh my fucking god

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)

It looks like tonight's game might be rained out. If so, the teams will get a much needed break.

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, i'm seriously, seriously doubting they play tonight. it's gloomy as shit out there.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

"How long does it have to rain before Schilling gets better?"

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

If Papi doesn't win the MVP this year....

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Then we'll know the universe is functioning normally.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

He deserves it more than Sheffield.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Sheffield? What about Matsui?

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

F-him.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

aight i'm trying to be objective as hell here, cause god damn ortiz has been SO CLUTCH! my roommates are gonna kill me for saying this, but if the yanks do win (NOT EVEN ENTERTAINING THAT THOUGHT RIGHT NOW) matsui should get the mvp. guy has been all over the place, (save for last night really). his batting average even after a sub-par game last night is still sitting at like .532 on the series. the guy is an animal.

― brock (brock), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

the guy is an animal.

he is "GOZIRRA".

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

he is a sox killer. i'll give him that. he can take his haircut and beat it.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

the MVP has already been voted on. The MVP award is based upon the regular season. It does not take into account the playoffs.

Unless, you are referring to a potential World Series MVP award; in which case Matsui or Ortiz would need their respective team to advance to the next round and in all likelihood win the world series, while continuing to play well, in order to be considered for the award.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm talkin mvp of the series. who gives a fuck all about mvp of the seaon right now !

― brock (brock), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Last night notwithstanding, Gozirra is a batting monster.

― Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Two five-RBI games already = if the Yanks win, it's Matsui. Even on his outs he's scalding the ball. If the Sox win, it's Ortiz, just as cut-n-dried.

― briania (briania), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i get off of work around 9:30 which means i'll be right on time for the end of the second inning. 2 dollar cans of Gansett at Decatur in Prov. tonight if anyone wants to join me.

― brock (brock), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i think matsui has topped abreau and giles as one of my fantasy baseball keepers for next season thanks to this series

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

So what's up with the rain? Have they started playing yet?

― lyra (lyra), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, they're playing. Yahoo has the box score going:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=241019110

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

What an incredible series

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:11 (twenty-one years ago)

dude Matsui don't steal enough, keep Abreu!

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Argh. Next game tomorrow night...

― lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:13 (twenty-one years ago)

AMAZING.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:16 (twenty-one years ago)

*beats head against laptop*

My friend called me in the middle of top of the 9th to note that it appeared that riot police were lining the field- I don't have a TV, so no idea what they were doing.

I am really bummed out that I'm flying home (nj home, not seattle home) Thursday, so I'm missing all the crazyness of watching these with my rabid-yankee-fans dad & brother-in-law. My sister says they've been in full yelling at the TV mode since late Sunday.

― lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

The past three games have been like slow torture for Yankee fans. I think the riot police were a bit of an overreaction, because the referees were spooked by rowdy fans throwing balls back on the field. There were balls being thrown back on the field in Boston, but you didn't see any riot police come out there. Anyway, how cool is A-Rod for almost pulling off that flagrant interference at first base?

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

"We just did something that's never been done before. There's no reason we can't do it again tomorrow."

--Curt Schilling

Apparently that pink spot on his right sock was blood.

― Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

My friend called me in the middle of top of the 9th to note that it appeared that riot police were lining the field- I don't have a TV, so no idea what they were doing.

Yankee "fans" threw stuff on the field, twice. I'm guessing that post-Milton Bradley, MLB gave the order to umps to call cops out without hesitation.

Also, A-Rod is a fucking petulant bitch.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

They put the riot police out there so they could see the game better, of course. That's about all it looked like to me.

Francona says Lowe probably will be the likely starter of game 7.

― jim wentworth (wench), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, my friend and I talked about that, trying to figure out how serious they were with the riot gear. That stadium had to be upwards of 80% full of yuppies! I've always through of Fenway as the slightly dangerous stadium- although most likely because the baseball cap I tend to wear to games there...

― lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Boy is also in full taunting mode. Why am I dating a life long Red Sox fan?

― lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think there was ever any fear of being mobbed by yuppies. I think it was more of a fear of getting beaned by a ball being tossed back on the field - so the umps decided to send a message to the fans by sending out the riot cops for half an inning.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I HAVE ALWAYS HATED A-ROD NOW I HATE HIM MORE THAN EVER.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Also the fans should totallly storm the field and reclaim it from the bourgeoisie. PROLETARIAT YUPPIE FIELD STORMERS UNITE. What are the cops gonna do, shoot people live on television? No. STORM THE FIELD STORM THE FIELD I just want to see destruction!

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:34 (twenty-one years ago)

You should move to Seattle, Arod's universally loathed out here.

― lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway, I thought it was stupid that people were getting mad at the umpires anyway. Even though they huddled and reversed themselves on two major calls, in both cases their final decision was obviously visible to be correct in the replays.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)

wakefield is starting tommorrow(today)

Anyway, how cool is A-Rod for almost pulling off that flagrant interference at first base?
are you fucking kidding me? lamest shit in the whole series. he was running like a god damn strawberry shortcake!

― brock (brock), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

EAT SHIT, A-ROD (the nerve of him trying to argue against the call on his pathetic playground bitch-slap)

the riot police was a diversionary tactic, and a weak one at that.

― joseph pot (STINKOR™), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I like how ARod tried to argue that he was just running like he usually does and hit the pitcher by accident. Yeah, if he usually ran like a flop-handed sissy, I'd have believed him.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

A-Rod should spend game 7 running EVERYWHERE like that, to prove a point. And cost the Yankees the game. And thus get fired by Comrade Steinbrenner.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

wakefield is starting tommorrow(today)

Are you sure? Because in the post-game interview, Francona said it would probably be D. Lowe.

are you fucking kidding me?

I am sort of kidding, I guess. I can't really condone such behavior, though it's oddly a bit gratifying to see the clean-cut superstar willing to get his hands a bit dirty in order to win.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

no Francona said it was more likely he'd start Lowe. Which I sort of agree with. I don't think you want your knuckleballer to start the biggest Game 7 of all time.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

If they lose tomorrow, does A-Rod have to commit ritual seppuku in front of Steinbrenner?

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:42 (twenty-one years ago)

in what universe is A-Rod a "clean-cut superstar?" Can't be clean-cut since nobody likes him! At least people like Jeter.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:42 (twenty-one years ago)

milo, no, that's Matsui's job. He's the underrated Japanese one.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeter is an adorable kitty cat with an 18 ft vertical leap. A-Rod is an A-HOLE (see how I did that? YEAAAH).

Seriously, I never wanted him on the Yankees and now I have a reason besides weird irrational hatred! HE HITS LIKE A SISSY.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

but A-Rod's the one getting paid $1.3bln to buy a ring!

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

It would almost be worth the Red Sox losing (ALMOST) to watch the Cardinals/Stros kick some Yankee ass.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know. I think A-Rod gets a bad rap. I think he's a better player than Jeter anyway, and I respect that.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:44 (twenty-one years ago)

A) People who say buy a ring even as a joke lose my respect instantaneously, not that anyone cares.
B) SO WOT HE STILL SUXXX

xpost dude seriously how is he better than Jeter?

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, he's a better hitter, for one thing.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Jeter is a better overall addition to the Yankees than A-Rod, who is basically what has been implied in my mind, a hitter for hire who was wholly unnecessary to the Yankees.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

on the shuttle bus after a braves game this summer were talking to this little boy, about ten years old, and we asked him who his favorite players were. he said 'barry bonds and derek jeter' and this guy behind us piped up 'boy, you sure like assholes huh kid?'. it was pretty funny.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

A-Rod's also a better SS than Jeter but he's still a petulant bitch.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Johnkrukyzay

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeter's qualities for the Yankees, to me, are not necessarily measured purely statistically, if that is a statement that makes any sense. I think that quality is important.

My grandmother calls him "Jeets" or "Jeetsy"

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Do they still show the Jeter/Steinbrenner Visa commercials? Those were brutal.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

no now they're overkilling with the Torre/Steinbrenner Visa commercial.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

If if if if if if if the Sox win game 7. I will not know what to do with myself after I scrape myself off of the ceiling.

― jim wentworth (wench), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Why the fuck are we talking about Jeter right now? Schilling just limped into the pantheon.

― Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Fox's coverage of the series = ridiculously fucking terrible/annoying. Please someone else cover the World Series!

― joseph pot (STINKOR™), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)

It sounded like after the game when he was being interviewed he said he wasn't a real person 7 years ago, and then said something about god. Was I just drunk or did Schilling say something bonkers like that?

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:00 (twenty-one years ago)

My only disappointment is that Ortiz didn't get the GWRBI tonight.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I have to assume Schilling got doped up with some good shit right after he came out. Anything said post-game doesn't count.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:01 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost - pro athlete in thanking god shockah!

― joseph pot (STINKOR™), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:01 (twenty-one years ago)

no more like "pro athlete in claiming he didn't exist 7 years ago shockah", that was more my question about what the hell he was saying actually.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Schilling said something about finding God 7 yrs ago. Then he said in Game 1 it was him pitching, but tonight it was God, or something like that.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)

that's what I thought he said! a-rod shoulda slapped him!

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i only caught the standard "praise god" comment, but i was drunk too so i dunno.

― joseph pot (STINKOR™), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish they were all drunk, that'd be so awesome.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Schilling's comment was cancelled out by that stupid "God is a Yankees fan" sign.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Fox's coverage of the series = ridiculously fucking terrible/annoying

So true. When McCarver trotted out that line about a walk being "exactly" as good a home run in the bottom of the ninth, I thought of Hstencil or whoever it was that was getting really worked up about that statement on ILB last week.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:06 (twenty-one years ago)

TIM: "Ridiculous move on Ortiz' part, hitting that game-winning homer in Game 4."

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:08 (twenty-one years ago)

o. nate I'm not the only ILB poster to get worked up over McCarverisms! Actually most of the time I don't even notice them.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:09 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post - A-Rod would only dare slap someone as young and skinny as Arroyo, cuz he's a beeyatch.

re: Fox - i lost count of how many cutaway shots they had of Schillings ankle (how exciting). what was i supposed to see there? was the tendon disintegrating before our very eyes? it's like they had no praying Boston fans to cutaway to, so they kept going back to his ankle and closeups of his face. how dramatic and entertaining of you FOX!

― joseph pot (STINKOR™), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:10 (twenty-one years ago)

and this guy behind us piped up 'boy, you sure like assholes huh kid?

I had to deal with this when I kept tabs on Ricky Henderson as a kid. I'm sorry, but the man was crazy like Bugs Bunny and I loved it.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:10 (twenty-one years ago)

they cut to the ankle because you could see the blood on the sock.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)

"Rickey is the best basestealer in history!"

"Who you talking to, Rickey?"

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20041020/capt.nyy12510200439.alcs_red_sox_yankees_nyy125.jpg

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)

hahaha hstencil I didn't even see that sign, what the fuck is wrong with people.

xpost that's Jeetsy being totally pissed at A-Rod

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, here's the ankle -
ihttp://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/041020/483/nyy12910200250&e=15&ncid=706

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Perhaps the low point of the FOX coverage was when they flashed up a "Baseball Fact" on the screen about how the Yankees were down 4-0 in the bottom of the fifth, and how they had been down 4-0 in the bottom of the fifth of Game 7 of the ALCS last year, and then at the bottom of the screen in big letters: "Coincidence?"

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

they cut to the ankle because you could see the blood on the sock.

their incessant live coverage of it was still overkill.

― joseph pot (STINKOR™), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:21 (twenty-one years ago)

omg that jeter pic is my wallpaper fer sure now

― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Some asshole threw his cell phone on the field.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

that's retarded on so many levels

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"FUCK U BOSTON Y DON'T U MAKE SOME PHONE CALLS INTERNATIONALLY FUCKERS"

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I was seriously hoping a pretzel cart was gonna roll down the stands like in Potempkin and start a crazy riot. Also -- A-Rod? Fuck you, little petulant cunt-chumper.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

great game, but i fear the redsox pitching tomorrow will crucify them. derek lowe was pretty bad this year, although admittedly okay his last outing. (of course brown/vasquez won't be so great either)

― dave k, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 05:43 (twenty-one years ago)

SUCK ON MY BOSTON KNOB.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 09:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate that Torre/Steinbrenner commercial. If the Red Sox win they should have Ortiz make a guest appearance in the commercial and shove Steinbrenners pen in one of Torre ginormous nostrils. "Thats PENNANT with two T's."

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 09:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh and come to find out, Schilling had stitches in his ankle. Apparently he had the trainer and doctor sew his tendon back on. He rules.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 10:06 (twenty-one years ago)

"strawberry shortcake"!

i don't know if you guys saw this, because it was during a commercial, but on my MLB Intl. internet connection they showed Schill warming up before the first inning, and when he finished with the last warmup pitch he turned around to face center field, reached down into his shirt, pulled out what i assume was a crucifix, and held it up to his mouth for a good 15-20 seconds. he honestly looked as if he had frozen in place. and he looked like he was scared shitless. that guy needs a nice hot dinner, man. i think he's getting gangrene.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

"Pennant with Two T's" what an asshole I am. TWO N's.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 10:53 (twenty-one years ago)

schilling does that every game.

― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)

From the Sportsguy's journal on ESPN page 2 -

"If the Yankees are down by two runs in the ninth inning, and somebody walks -- like Matsui did in Game 6 -- apparently it's as good as a home run. That's how Tim McCarver explained it last night. I'm not sure if just the Yankees are immune to double plays, or if it's everyone in the league. But it's an interesting development."

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

that was a stupid comment (McCarver's)

― The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

28pack of molson for 10bucks at the corner store, i love this game!

― kephm (kephm), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

and shove Steinbrenners pen in one of Torre ginormous nostrils. "Thats PENNANT with two T's."

I thought that this was pretty funny without the correction, Chris.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Enjoy the polling choices

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

You know, I generally could give a shit about baseball but this is just serious entertainment.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

>they cut to the ankle because you could see the blood on the sock.

>>their incessant live coverage of it was still overkill.

ok, truly sorry to beat a horse that's now not only dead but beatified, sainted, sculptured and permeating our mortal pores with the essence of its noble ethereal spirit, but migawd, schilling's suture was so loaded w/ injected anesthetic that they/some blood (or they+some blood) leaked into his sock (it's not like his ankle ruptured people) and fox treats it like it's the fucking stigmata, god how sickening, the only thing i remember from that goddamn game is the slow-roasted-into-my-retina image of a mud-covered cleet, hideous stirrup, and an otherwise pristinely white sock flawed only by a tiny light-red pimple of a bloodstain which so-predictably overshadowed the series, the game, the performance, perhaps ultimately the man himself in the interest of 'enhancement' by crude simplification and contrived idolatry, oh fox, oh sox, oh humanity, how gross!

― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

"Controvirsial homerun," A Rod trying to cheat, bloody "sox", and riot police, no wonder this is America's favorite pass time.

― Aja (aja), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

dude, look at that YahooNews photo I posted - it was way more than a 'pimple of a bloodstain' by the end. And I'm not sure how much they could possibly anaesthetize an internal injury like that.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

this paragraph : red sox victory :: arod's limp slap : arroyo's glove

― experimental grandma (deangulberry), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

"by the end" as in, it was leaking blood in-game??? can anyone prove this cuz i swear i'll shut up if you can (and with that kind of reward i'll know if you can't i'm in the right here). i didn't go nearly as far as i could've there, i was very tempted to just call it "the gaudy sock" and leave it to you guys to work out the implication.

― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)

The NY Daily News today - "The stitches did the job, holding the tendon in place, but apparently they tore at least partially to cause bleeding."

Not to go all Oliver Stone-in-JFK on you, but:

From the third inning (according to the SJ Merc-News)
http://www.mercurynews.com/images/mercurynews/mercurynews/9969/99388356998.jpg

vs.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20041020/capt.nyy12910200250.alcs_red_sox_yankees_nyy129.jpg
near the end of him pitching.

It's definitely gotten more red and creeped a bit higher.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a bit hard to tell there because the earlier photo is more washed out and lacks the contrast and (red) color strength of the later photo.

― experimental grandma (deangulberry), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

There's not that much difference in the red on the stirrups, as far as I can tell. I doubt it was bleeding much), but the only way to rip sutures would be his pitching motion, right?

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I can only say this: Fuck the Yankees. Fuck them in their stupid asses. < /Jay>

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

well it's very possible he just saw it on television in between innings and realized it needed another going over w/ the sharpie.

a very very very tiny part of me wishes the sox would win game 7 just so i can sit back and see if the collective sperm count rises or falls as schilling does this exact same thing 2 more times (not that i don't already know: it's a miracle! it's a miracle!! it's a miracle!!!). but this is all just going to be forgotten history after tonight so i promise to be quiet now. (must exude POSITIVE vibes, john!)

― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Swift Boat Yankees for Truth

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

http://kardev.com/images/abc_bandaid083104.jpg

― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

The Sox are up, 6 - zip!

― jim wentworth (wench), Thursday, 21 October 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy fuck it is a massacre! (middle of 4th, Sox up 8-1)

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 21 October 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah!!!!!!

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 21 October 2004 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.cottageviews.com/album%20covers/Peter%20Frampton%20-%20Frampton%20Comes%20Alive!.jpg

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Thursday, 21 October 2004 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)

hahaha!

hi tracer!

eat shit yankees!

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 21 October 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

no tasting of NYC capitalism by the boston bitches this year, i think.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 21 October 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the Yankees actually died and turned into zombies like 2 innings ago, wtf.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 21 October 2004 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Watching the Yankees get violated is even more delicious than these chocolate-covered peanut butter pretzels, and that's not easy to do.

― Lifted, or, the story is 'neath my ass (kenan), Thursday, 21 October 2004 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"Swift Boat Yankees for Truth"

o, foul finis. i foresaw it, i was helpless against it. you win. you win. you win. you win.

― John (jdahlem), Thursday, 21 October 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i cannot be the only yankee fan here. no one is sad. i would be sad but i am drugged. what do i feel? numb. numbish. that's such a cliche.

it occurred to me after damon's grand slam that this series ran a near-perfect parallel to germany's invasion of the ussr (the yankees [maybe it's my tv, but increasingly so this season to my mind] quasi-fascist unis not doing much to detract from this comparison) (and while this might imply that the yankees = hitler, it also naturally implies that the sox = stalin (which is also pretty appropriate really))

― John (jdahlem), Thursday, 21 October 2004 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

you need more drugs

― A Million Talking Hot Dogs (AaronHz), Thursday, 21 October 2004 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

HI I DON'T EXIST

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 21 October 2004 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)

No, I see it. It's the moustaches. Buncha pot-smoking commies.

Say hey geeta!

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Thursday, 21 October 2004 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm not sure if my post was sarcastic or not now that i think about it.

― Allyzay Yankees Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 21 October 2004 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

ugh not God Bless America again

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 21 October 2004 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm rooting for the Yanks, John, but yeah they blew it. Brown is trash. God, you were so right when you urged caution after game 3 over on the ILB thread.

But I just hope all the newly minted Robin Hoods / baseball fans realize just how much of an underdog they are rooting for.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Thursday, 21 October 2004 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway, go Cardinals!

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Thursday, 21 October 2004 01:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Pedro? Was Lowe out of gas or something?

― jim wentworth (wench), Thursday, 21 October 2004 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, Jesus

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 21 October 2004 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

stitch wtf.

allyzay & roy sorry i didn't realize. : (

but there is good news:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20041020/wl_uk_afp/britain_food_atkins_041020135222

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=738&e=1&u=/ap/20041021/ap_on_hi_te/robots_among_us

― John (jdahlem), Thursday, 21 October 2004 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

9-3!!

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 21 October 2004 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

go bellhorn!

here's a question: how many sox players have mullets? i was just trying to do the math

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 21 October 2004 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

You gotta love that.

― Lifted, or, the story is 'neath my ass (kenan), Thursday, 21 October 2004 02:59 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah!!!!!

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 21 October 2004 02:59 (twenty-one years ago)

FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 21 October 2004 02:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, that was cool.

WHAAAAA - FUCKING OH YEAH - HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good day to wear the Sox cap tomorrow.

These guys were on the mat in the 8th inning in game 4 and they put together THE GREATEST COMEBACK IN BASEBALL HISTORY!!!!!!!!

― jim wentworth (wench), Thursday, 21 October 2004 02:59 (twenty-one years ago)

a-rod's scowl was great

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:00 (twenty-one years ago)

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:00 (twenty-one years ago)

!!!!

INCREDIBLE!

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I heart Johnny Damon, but please don't interview him ever again

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh good god. I was driving home when that grand slam came, and it's a good thing that I was stopped at a traffic light, I was beating my head against the steering wheel. Pain. Too much pain.

― lyra (lyra), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20041021/capt.nyy14810210333.alcs_red_sox_yankees_nyy148.jpg

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:03 (twenty-one years ago)

A-ROD, SMELL THE PAIN

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm so not seeing my Red Sox-loving coworker tomorrow -- or if he does show up, he'll be groggy from drink and lack of sleep but then he'll have this insane sparkle in his eyes too. It'll be an amusing sight.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

On Oct. 2, 1978, I was 9 years old and I cried when Bucky Dent hit his home run.

I'm not crying tonight, Bucky.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:09 (twenty-one years ago)

its 12:13 in binfgo land im drunk, and the red sox won the pennant. its time for nude running around the condo! wherers my wife....!

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:11 (twenty-one years ago)

haha

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i met bucky dent, he was a client of my fathers. fuck the buck!

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:11 (twenty-one years ago)

wooooo! torrre your nostrils are the size of my ding dong!

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:12 (twenty-one years ago)

hahaha!

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:12 (twenty-one years ago)

A-Rod looks so pretty when he's pouting.

So who gets fired? Cashman? Torre? Mariano? Somebody's paying.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)

what was it that GARY SHEFFIELD said a few days ago, when Boston was down 3-0?

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I love me the Bingo. He is in happy land.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Jon Heyman
SPORTS COLUMNIST
Newsday.com

October 17, 2004
BOSTON
Maybe it wasn't Grady Little's fault, after all. And maybe it's not even all Terry Francona's fault, either. Maybe the Yankees are too deep and strong and the Red Sox too weak and jinxed, and maybe it's not ever going to change. Not in our lifetimes, anyway. Maybe the Red Sox will always come up a run or 10 runs short.

Maybe they'll always suffer the wrong injury at the wrong time. Or the wrong bad break. Maybe they'll always have a Dale Sveum sending baserunners home from third to their inevitable demise.

With apologies to Pedro Martinez, whose quotes are even better than his pitches now, maybe the Yankees will always be their daddies.

They are today, that's for sure.

The Olde Towne is a depressed town now. The faithful fans were hoping for a hometown turnaround when the evening began, but Fenway Park was as quiet as a library by the time reality set in. Later, there were boos, followed by sarcastic cheers.

This was supposed to finally be the year of the Red Sox now that they had the best one-two pitching combination in the American League.

But Curt Schilling came down with a bum ankle and Martinez was made to eat his own words.

One positive side effect to the Yankees' 3-0 lead in games is that maybe we can stop hearing about Schilling's ankle sheath and his subluxation. He pitched like hell in Game 1 and now he is done, why not just leave it at that?
Speculation about whether he can pitch Game 7 is about as worthwhile as a Francona news conference today because there's more chance we'll see the return of the unfairly maligned Little to manage here again than a Game 7 in this series. Little may have left Martinez in a batter or two too long in last year's ALCS but Francona set a bad tone by acting panicky and prickly. What's worse?

Over the years, the Yankees have always found some inventive, surprising and heartbreaking ways to torture the Red Sox. This time, it appears they're going with an old staple, the old-fashioned bludgeoning. The Yankees have put themselves within one inevitable victory of their 40th American League title, and after burning Tim Wakefield last night, Francona will use Derek Lowe tonight, which is like placing a filet mignon in Mo Vaughn's locker.

Dead meat.

Every important game and every big deal seems to go the Yankees' way. The Red Sox have been feeling comfortable lately with their inability to acquire Alex Rodriguez last winter since Manny Ramirez posted MVP-worthy stats. But today, they can regret that, too, because all the folks who questioned A-Rod's abilities now know how off-base they were. Rodriguez almost did enough to single-handedly wreck the Red Sox. But he had help, oh man did he ever.

Rodriguez sent one baseball onto Lansdowne Street (which was miraculously tossed all the way back over the Green Monster - the best throw by a Bostonian all night), lined two run-scoring doubles and scored five times, and nearly everyone else did a heap of damage, as well.

Gary Sheffield, who was jumping out of his size-11s to swing, also homered over the Green Monster and hit it twice and added a fourth hit, raising his ALCS batting average to .692. Hideki Matsui raised his series average to .600 with five hits, including two homers and two doubles. Like Rodriguez, Matsui scored five runs. Bernie Williams batted and hit enough to get the career LCS record for everything by the end of the game (well, at least hits, extra-base hits and RBI).

Maybe Boston's smug club president Larry Lucchino will finally regret not going the extra dollar or two for A-Rod today (OK, it was more like $15 mil). And maybe we all overrated the Red Sox. They certainly looked a lot better from afar.

They had every chance in the world to win this game, with cocky young Bronson Arroyo going against an obviously ailing Kevin Brown, who moves like an elderly man nowadays. But though Boston knocked Brown around, it couldn't quite do enough against makeshift reliever Javier Vazquez, who hadn't beaten any team of note since Joe Torre generously selected him for the All-Star team.

Vazquez had a little margin for error as Red Sox pitchers served up an embarrassing array of BP fastballs, nothing curves and hit-me knucklers. The Yankees didn't need luck, a break or anything else intangible. They didn't need the usual heroics from a role player. No Aaron Boone or Bucky Dent.

They didn't need an unfortunate strategical move by Boston or any sort of extra help. Rodriguez, Sheffield and Co. basically beat the reviled Red Sox over the head with their sticks, and maybe Boston's too woozy today to get up off the turf.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)

best night at work ever

― maura (maura), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:23 (twenty-one years ago)

haha where did you find that column!?

― maura (maura), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)

some NY site, newsday.com haha

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

and the one yankee fan here at work departed early in a deep depression

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

There are a bunch of drunken red sox fans out on the roof deck of the building next door screaming at the top of their lungs. :-P

― lyra (lyra), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.simplifiedsigns.org/choke.jpg

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

So who else is pulling for the Astros?

― Lifted, or, the story is 'neath my ass (kenan), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey Yankees, who is your slang term for a paternal parent figure now?!

― joseph pot (STINKOR™), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice double meaning in that image there.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)

(From my outsider perspective I have been quietly amused by The Other 7 Game Series That Nobody I Know Around Here in OC Has Even Slightly Mentioned.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't decide which team is a better matchup but GO SOX anyways. If they win it all, Kerry wins the White House too, I guarantee it.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

okay maybe I shouldn't have posted that but still, go SOX.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

ONE WIN AWAY!
By GEORGE KING
NY Post

BOSTON — When it comes to the 2004 season, the Red Sox are nine innings away from being Three-D. That's morgue talk for stiffs on slabs, and translates into Definitely Done Dancing.

The Yankees fitted the suddenly mute Red Sox for body bags and toe tags last night at Fenway Park, where they bludgeoned the Dead Sox, 19-8, in front of 35,126 bitter customers — put themselves in position to sweep their blood rivals tonight and capture the AL pennant.

The victory gives the Yankees a 3-0 lead in the best-of-seven series going into tonight's Game 4. No team in baseball has flushed such a bulge. That means the Yankees are a lock for their 40th flag, and their second straight World Series appearance — this time, against the Cardinals or Astros.

It will be the seventh time in the last nine seasons the Yankees have advanced to the World Series.

A win tonight and the Yankees can do a pinstriped cha-cha-cha celebration on Fenway's olive lawn that would add more misery to a franchise that bathes in disappointment. And they would have another chance tomorrow night in Game 5 if they don't win tonight.

"I am not worried about that," Derek Jeter said following the 4-hour, 20-minute tilt that set the mark for the longest nine-inning game in postseason history. "I am worried about [tonight]."

Hideki Matsui continued his torrid ALCS hitting, going 5-for-6 with two homers and five RBIs. He is batting .600 (9-for-15) with 10 RBIs in this series. The five hits tie an LCS record.

Alex Rodriguez and Gary Sheffield added homers to lead a 22-hit attack that produced three runs in the first, three in the third, five in the fourth, two in the fifth, four in the seventh and two in the ninth. Sheffield had four hits and four RBIs and A-Rod scored five runs, had three hits and had five RBIs.

The 19 Yankee runs also were an LCS record. A-Rod's and Matsui's five runs scored tied a postseason record.

"I expected this all year, it's just happening now," Sheffield said. "Every time we scored we said, 'Let's score some more.' "

Said Matsui: "I tried to do what I could to win tonight. Even from my perspective it was a good outing."

Since Red Sox manager Terry Francona used Tim Wakefield, his scheduled No. 4 starter, in relief last night, Francona will go with Derek Lowe tonight and possibly start Pedro Martinez if there is a Game 5 tomorrow night.

On a night Yankee starter Kevin Brown gave up four runs (three earned) and five hits in two innings, the Red Sox pitchers were brutal. Starter Bronson Arroyo gave up six runs and six hits in two innings. Ramiro Mendoza gave up a run in one inning. Curtis Leskanic was tagged for three runs in one-third of an inning. Wakefield gave up five runs in 31/3 innings and Alan Embree surrendered two runs in one-third of an inning. Finally, Mike Myers was spanked for two runs in two frames.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Chuck D. said it best when he said FUCK THE NEW YORK POST or something like that.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 21 October 2004 03:58 (twenty-one years ago)

YANKS' BATS DO THEIR BIDDING
Kevin Kernan
New York Post

BOSTON — The biggest bats finally shut up the biggest baseball mouths as the quietest professional, Hideki Matsui, helped lead the Yankees.

The Bronx Bombers annihilated the Red Sox last night at Fenway Park, and believe it, this one was personal. The final score was 19-8, but it was much more impressive than that.

Godzilla homered twice, produced five hits and scored five runs, and is going to be the ALCS MVP with 10 RBI after three games.

The 19 runs were the most ever scored by the Yankees in the postseason. The Yankees buried their undisciplined arch-rivals, putting them in their place and shutting up the Red Sox and the full house of tortured Boston faithful.

"We wanted to make a statement and we did," said Gary Sheffield, who was 4-for-5 with a home run and four RBIs. "We're not here to win a war of words. We're here to win the games."

Said Joe Torre, "Our players have a lot of determination. You saw it. You can't teach that."

No, you can't. Remember, it was Curt Schilling who talked about shutting up 55,000 Yankee fans in Game 1 and barked all year about coming here to break the Curse, but the Curse of the Bambino continues. Exactly one year after Aaron Boone finished off the Red Sox with his 11th-inning home run, the Yankees hammered the 2004 Sawx into submission on this Oct. 16.

This was baseball brutality and when Bernie Williams doubled home Sheffield and Matsui in the seventh off Alan Embree, the fans began to flood the exits. It was Embree who came into the clubhouse chanting "1918" on Thursday. These Sox will never learn to stop mocking the Curse.

At one point the Yankees scored 11 unanswered runs. Five innings into this game, the Yankees produced 10 extra-base hits, behind the bashing of Matsui — who has become the Yankees' Iron Horse — Sheffield and another monster game from Alex Rodriguez.

This wasn't just about the Yankees taking a 3-0 lead in the ALCS and most certainly punching their ticket to their 40th World Series. This was about driving a stake through the heart of Red Sox Nation.

No team has ever come back from a 3-0 deficit. In ALCS history, no team has even won the fourth game after falling behind 3-zip.

All season, the Yankees let their play speak for themselves. The Red Sox talk turned out to be so much bigger than their walk.

Before this series started, Sheffield told friends how much he wanted to take care of business against Boston. He was not alone. The Yankees were tired of hearing comments from the likes of Kevin Millar and Johnny Damon, tired of hearing that the Red Sox were going to run the table this postseason, winning 11 straight.

After their three-game sweep of the ailing and sloppy Anaheim Angels, the Red Sox bravado became even bolder. All along, the Yankees were taking mental notes. The Yankees came into this series looking to make a statement: This is how you play the game and always respect the game.

In the first two games, the Yankees beat Red Sox aces, Schilling and Pedro Martinez, but last night, on a cool New England evening, they just beat the cocky Red Sox silly, starting off by corn-rolling starter Bronson Arroyo, who did not make it out of the third inning.

The Red Sox led 4-3 after three innings, marking their first lead of the series. A-Rod then immediately tied it with a home run as the Yankees kept bashing away, teaching the Red Sox a lesson they will never forget.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:01 (twenty-one years ago)

haha that newsday column is barely in english! 'strategical'?!

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Suggest a caption, folks:

http://www.newsday.com/media/thumbnails/storylink/2004-10/14737591.jpg

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)

"Spencer Chow Grows A Beard"

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

And Heyman's new Newsday piece is up. I suspect Gear will find it entertaining reading.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:06 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost - PWNED. Ally you are #1 even if you want to jump Jeter's bones.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:06 (twenty-one years ago)

A-ROD HOMER GETS SLAUGHTER STARTED
Mike Vaccaro
New York post
Oct 17

BOSTON — This time, the Red Sox didn't even give their fans the familiar tease — the usual angst, suspense, agony.

For the second straight year, the Yankees and the Red Sox began a game on Oct. 16 and ended it on Oct. 17. The last time, it took an Aaron Boone home run at 12:16 in the morning to kill off the Red Sox, to send their Nation off into a quiet, dreadful winter, and if you'd have asked them, they would never believe they could feel an ache worse than that.

Except last night, when Bill Mueller's lazy fly ball settled into Bernie Williams' mitt at exactly 12:30 in the morning, what you saw at Fenway Park was the worst kind of emotion:

Complete capitulation.

They know they are through embracing this team, enjoying it, believing in it. Those who stayed to the bitter end saw one of the worst thumpings in postseason annals, one of the worst bludgeonings in the long, colorful history of Red Sox-Yankees. It ended 19-8, but it felt even worse than that, because at the end of that score was another one.

This one 3-0.

This one spelling the end of this chapter of the greatest feud in all of professional sports. The Red Sox knew it, even if they couldn't say it. The Yankees knew it, even if they wouldn't. Anyway, the empty eyes and vapid stares of the last Fenway stragglers said all anyone needed to hear.

On a night the Sox could still have fought their way back into the series, still kept a grip on this dream season of theirs, they had the misfortune to have the best seats in the house for the hour when the Yankees we'd expected to see all season finally reported for work.

In the earliest version of this Yankee blueprint, there was going to be an endless string of nights like this one, nights when they were going to treat major-league pitchers like Iron Mike machines, denting fences when they weren't clearing them. And conducting the whole thing was going to be Alex Rodriguez, the best player bringing the most dangerous bat to the best lineup.

Somehow, the Yankees won 106 games before we saw this all explode for real.

But win No. 107 was something else, something to see.

"It's hard to describe when it happens like that," Joe Torre said. "You saw it. You almost can't explain it."

Instead, if you are a Yankee fan, you enjoy it. You especially enjoy the moment in the top of the third inning, right after the Red Sox had stormed back from an 0-3 hole to grab their first lead of this series, 4-3. It lasted exactly four pitches. The fourth was a slider from Bronson Arroyo that seemed to screech to a halt in mid-flight, just high enough for A-Rod to belt it over The Wall, over the Monster Seats, over the screen and out onto Lansdowne Street.

With one swat, he'd shaken this game like a snow bubble. He'd filched the Red Sox' lead. And he'd taken a Hoover to all the excitement, all the life, all the energy that had electrified Fenway Park from the moment they'd opened the gates. One swing is all it took.

"The only way an inning you score runs in [as the Red Sox did] is going to be validated is if you can shut down the other club in the following inning," said Torre. "It's like football. You score a touchdown and get the ball right back."

The Red Sox never got the ball back. Rodriguez, the old high-school quarterback, wouldn't let them. The rest of the night was a blur of bad Red Sox pitching and Yankees crossing the plate. But it took A-Rod to make the rest of it happen. One swing is all it took.

One swing, on another Red Sox-Yankees night that would bridge the 16th and 17th days of October, and A-Rod had delivered another death knell to a city that knows the melody all too well. And had already begun accepting their fate.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)

U R JUST TRYING TO GET ME TO POST HOW I THINK JETER LOOKS LIKE A PITIABLE, DEVELOPMENTALLY RETARDED CHILD AND THAT'S WHY I LIKE HIM.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)

that nlcs may just be the greatest unheralded playoff series ever. it can only be followed up by a great game of one-on-one between pujols and beltran, natch

― maura (maura), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I am fascinated, because I personally have no desire to have sex with a retarded child.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Part of me deep down was pulling for the Yanks, some small dark part of me, strictly out of selfishness. If Boston wins the world series, the eye of sauron, so to speak, turns to Wrigley

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:19 (twenty-one years ago)

WHATEVER. Damon is a Neandertal. YANKS FUCKING RULE.

― 57 7th (calstars), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

they rule SITTING AROUND AT HOME WATCHING THE SERIES ON TV (uh sort of like me).

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:21 (twenty-one years ago)

to Wrigley? For what purpose? The Cubs are stinkin' up the joint.

― Lifted, or, the story is 'neath my ass (kenan), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:21 (twenty-one years ago)

think about it.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

if the Yanks ruled they wouldn't have dropped four straight in unprecedented fashion and had a potential big rally killed by the petulant ex-SS the yanks snatched up after Boston failed to get him

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm still in fucking disbelief. :-(

― lyra (lyra), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Listen, I don't want to have sex with a retarded kitten either, I just want to give it a hug and some kitty chow, understand, hstencil?

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:26 (twenty-one years ago)

what do kittens have to do with this?!?!?

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:28 (twenty-one years ago)

it's funny how glum McCarver and Joe Buck and Other Guy were afterwards. they praised the Red Sox for winning, but sure didn't seem very pleased about just witnessing a great moment in sports history like you'd expect of a typical sportscaster. all keeping in line with the 'FOX network=totally biased' motif, of course, so not all that surprising.

Torre is a Troll

― joseph pot (STINKOR™), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:32 (twenty-one years ago)

DEREK JETER JUMPS LIKE A KITTEN! HE'S LIKE A LITTLE, DEVELOPMENTALLY CHALLENGED, BENGAL KITTEN!

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Gear!, I love you & your article posting ways. I want to give you sex in the ass on your couch. If you're interested, give me a call at 1-800-FUK-YEAH.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:36 (twenty-one years ago)

damon is the cutest! omg wtf lol

― maura (maura), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)

if Damon cut his hair and kept the beard he'd look like:

http://www.georgettesworld.com/main/stamp3.jpg

KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:52 (twenty-one years ago)

http://cache.boston.com/sports/galleries/look_alike/damon.jpg

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Damon was one of the greatest Kansas City Royals I ever watched play.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

omg now i totally want a remake of 'head' starring the red sox. WHERE ARE YOU STUDIO EXECS THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN

pedro can take the frank zappa cameo role

― maura (maura), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:58 (twenty-one years ago)

this would be Derek Lowe drinking and smoking a cigar on the mound at Yankee Stadium

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20041021/capt.nyy17910210514.alcs_red_sox_yankees_nyy179.jpg

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 21 October 2004 06:07 (twenty-one years ago)

god DAMMIT

FUCK THE MOTHERFUCKING FUCK RED FUCKSOX.

I WANT TO DIE.

― THE GHOST OF THURMAN MUNSUN, Thursday, 21 October 2004 06:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i hate to mock the dead, but

ha ha

― maura (maura), Thursday, 21 October 2004 07:51 (twenty-one years ago)

WOOO HOOO SORE FUCKING LOSERS! BLOW IT OUT YER OBNOXIOUS NY ASSES.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 21 October 2004 09:52 (twenty-one years ago)

This is the greatest hangover of my life. 2 hours of sleep and 12 beers.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 21 October 2004 09:54 (twenty-one years ago)

In case any fans missed this great commercial after the game.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 21 October 2004 12:15 (twenty-one years ago)

hello from st louis!

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 21 October 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Chris, that's cute.

― Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks, Bingo - I was just watching that promo @ work, w/ the volume down (OBVIOUSLY), & it still gave me happy shivers.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

My theory is that if the Astros win and the Sox have to face off against Clemens - AND THEY BEAT HIM - Boston will never again have to win anything, ever, because it will be the greatest moment in the history of ever.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

As happy as Boston fans will be if they win the World Series, I think in a few years they may come to regret it. After all, the Curse is part of the whole mystique of the Red Sox. Without that Curse, they are just another fairly decent major league team with an unexceptional post-season record. I mean it just doesn't have the same ring to say, "We're the team that's never won a world series since 1918 - oh, except for two years ago." Unless they go on to become a Yankees-style juggernaut, then they will pretty much lose their distinctive identity as a team.

― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

GEE WOULDN'T THAT REALLY SUCK!

IP check on whether or not o.nate is really Tim McCarver, please! ;)

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone who prizes mystique & character for being 1st loser over actually getting the job done should go to a Big Dig site, stand in a ditch, and wait for a concrete mixer to drop some cold wet TRUTH on your lunk heads.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

According to Bill Simmons:

2. One of my ESPN bosses pulled the "This is the year" routine with me on the phone this morning, then asked what would happen to me (and every Red Sox fan) if we won the World Series. You know, the whole "Wouldn't you lose your identity?" thing. I've gotten this from time to time over the years, and I always thought it was so ludicrous that it didn't even warrant its own column. But since people keep bringing it up, I'll explain it to you once and for all:

Red Sox fans don't define themselves by the fact that the team hasn't won the World Series since World War I. We're defined by the fact that the team hasn't won the World Series since World War I. There's a difference. We hate hearing about the (rhymes with "schmurse"), we bristle at every "19*8" reference ... we just want to reach a point where nobody brings this stuff up anymore. It amazes me how many people don't understand that. All we ever wanted was to be "Just Another Team That Won the World Series Recently."

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/041007

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy crap Bill Simmons is OTM!!!!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i came home last night just in time to see damon slam his grand slam, i said to myself "this game is over," did some odd jobs around my pad, and fell to sleep. which means that i'm not the RED SOX HATA (or whatever the fuck his name is) dude who created that "red sox sucks" thread. i've got more important things to do w/ my time than that sorta shit. besides, my jibing was more geared towards BOSTON.

congrats to the red sox -- the best team won last night. red sox fans, have yer fun while it lasts!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 22 October 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Instant sentimentality fix for the Sox folks -- I swear a number of you will be weeping openly as you read all this.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 22 October 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

nineteen years pass...

Someone please explain these new yellow and. Blue Red Sox uniforms

― calstars, Sunday, 28 July 2024 01:53 (one year ago)

City Connect, every team gets a butt ugly alternate jersey for special occasions.

― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 28 July 2024 02:00 (one year ago)

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