indefensible: john gruber

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http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/cameron

asshole

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/green-day-rip-this-joint

yuppie

(PEDANTIC NOTE: House style here at Daring Fireball is to capitalize the second words in “iPod Mini” and “iPod Photo”, on the basis that they’re proper names, despite the fact that Apple’s marketing style is to use lowercase.)

you write a blog

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/08/campus

lol

― caek, Thursday, 9 June 2011 09:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

Really beginning to think that Gruber needs his own thread, but I don't want to be the one to start it.

The latest Talk Show podcast, 35-ish minutes in. They're discussing the new iPad cover and he's practically on some kind of nerd interpretation of the old "Magnets? How the fuck do they work?" routine.

So I dare to visit his website today because of his verbal spastic attack, and one of the links is to a news story about the actress from The Wire with his heartfelt and not at all patronisingly semi-racist comment of "That’s a shame, but I’m glad to see her alive."

― James Mitchell, Thursday, March 10, 2011 8:36 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

― caek, Thursday, 9 June 2011 09:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/08/campus

he is a champ at this glib commencement speech bullshit

― caek, Thursday, 9 June 2011 09:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

arsehole

― It's not like we could go to Islam (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 9 June 2011 09:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

The rate card for his weekly sponsorship is now $5,500 -- $286,000 a year if it sells out at full price.
http://www.businessinsider.com/daring-fireball-2011-3#ixzz1OltvorIZ

not bad considering he just lazily throws up links most of the time.

― joe, Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

Don't think of iCloud as the new MobileMe; think of iCloud as the new iTunes.

This worked out just as he said.

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

It also means iPhone users with iPhone-using friends and family no longer need SMS. I’ll cancel my SMS plan as soon as this ships.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/06/imessage

I don’t think over-the-air backups or media syncing are coming soon. Wireless networking just isn’t fast enough. I’m not talking about Wi-Fi syncing over a local network to iTunes running on your Mac or PC — that may well be coming soon, but it wouldn’t solve the “how can these devices be ‘post-PC’ if they require a PC?” problem. We’re not talking about why the iPad needs a USB cable; we’re talking about why it needs a PC, period.

http://daringfireball.net/2011/04/cutting_that_cord

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha, i'd forgotten that. glad that there is a place to document gruber's predictions with the same mixture of obsessiveness and gloating that he reserves for everyone else.

― joe, Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

"we’re talking about why it needs a PC, period"

What's the profit margins for Apple on iPads and iPhones versus Macbooks and Mac Pros? Suspect this might have something to do with it.

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/2005/06/shuffling

The music on FM radio pretty much totally sucks

where did you read that? in a rolling stone you bought at an airport?

― caek, Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

I’m biased, insofar as I consider Apple’s strategy more appealing than Google’s. But that’s because my interest lies in having the best possible user experience — the best-looking UIs, the lowest-latency responses, the smoothest animation, the most elegant designs. I share that interest with Apple. Google’s interest is in reaching the largest possible audience. That’s why I chose, at the outset of this paragraph, to say that I find Apple’s strategy “more appealing than”, rather than, say, “superior to”, Google’s. Apple’s strategy is correct for optimizing the quality of the user experience. Google’s strategy is correct for maximizing the number of users for its apps.

http://daringfireball.net/2011/06/its_all_software

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 16 June 2011 07:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha liking this thread no matter how redundant it is - keep em coming

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 16 June 2011 07:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Will be interesting to see how this pans out. Not sure what it means if it’s true that their initial target is Mobile Safari specifically, not mobile WebKit in general. My guess is that it’s simply a result of Mobile Safari being so far ahead of the Android WebKit engine.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/16/project-spartan

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/17/apple-buy-phone-industry

yes, but it would be illegal under US, UK and EU law, so what's your point?

― caek, Friday, 17 June 2011 18:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

Has he always been so mean-spirited? I don't remember him being so spiteful just a few years ago.

― lukas, Friday, 17 June 2011 21:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://diveintomark.org/archives/2011/06/17/come-on-gruber-youre-better-than-this

url a bit generous but otherwise, oh snap

― caek, Friday, 17 June 2011 22:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Gruber seems to be right about things a lot of the time, though that's easy when the people he disagrees with are prone to willfully ignoring the fact that Apple is making hundreds of millions of dollars doing what it's doing and is preposterously unlikely to make any sudden changes in strategy. Also less of a raging, belligerent asshole than you might expect.

― T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Also wrt the "buy whole cell phone industry" post that is sort of following up on an earlier link about how Apple could easily have enough cash in a few years to take itself private. That is, in an industry where firms are frequently assessed by their market cap or their VC funding or what have you, Apple actually has HUMONGOUS FAT STACKS OF CASH.

― T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

agreed that this guy is a bit of a dick, he has unsavory triumphalist tendencies, and thinks various middlebrow stuff is the height of human achievement - however as to his core competency, i do believe hes one of the best writers on design out there today

― ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Chock full of SEO crap: My comment on Marco Arment's comment on John Gruber's comment on David Pogue's comment on Google's Chromebook.

― James Mitchell, Sunday, 19 June 2011 08:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

Has anyone read the marco aren't Phish post?

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 19 June 2011 09:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

Damn autocorrect: Arment

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 19 June 2011 09:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

however as to his core competency, i do believe hes one of the best writers on design out there today

he doesn't really do this any more though?

― caek, Sunday, 19 June 2011 10:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

Got sick of his blog a while ago - but I have to admit his comment on the Chromebook is kinda on point, why does it deserve a "good try!" sentiment?

― Nhex, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

Gruber's predictions that don't come true are still reasonable and make sense when you evaluate the facts available at the time. He can't rely on his mysterious inside sources all the time, you see.

You don't have to believe me, just ask Gruber. He's always Gruber. I mean, right.

― mh, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

he doesn't really do this any more though?

― caek, Sunday, June 19, 2011 6:18 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah its not most of his posts, but when he does write a long piece i feel like he really gets where design is at re todays technologies

― ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

also hes a v good clear writer

― ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

chrisdejabet Chris De Jabet by daringfireball
Just got complimented on my @daringfireball shirt at the Apple Store. Because I'm handsome.
18 hours ago

*stabs twitter in the face*

― ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

thought it was really out of line when this guy shot mr takagi

― little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

i really like gruber

which mac writers do you guys really like? i could use some more feeds in my google reader

― markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

Jean-Louis Gassee

― lukas, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

totally forgot abt him, thanking u

― markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 19:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

feel like this post embodies many of his less good qualities

http://grab.by/cBWF

― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

how long till some shill links him this thread and ilx gets ~fireballed~

―  summer is coming  (cozen), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

one can dream

― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

You are trying to view American McCarver on a shitty browser. Won't work.

http://americanmccarver.com/

― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 12:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

Note that the UI screenshots are even set in Helvetica, not Arial. Some of the best evidence of good taste at Google I can ever recall.

duly noted.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/28/google-plus-videos

― joe, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

guh arial and helvetica are like exactly the same shit stfu already

― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

A friend shared this blog post on Google Reader: http://stu.mp/2011/06/dear-yahoo-hire-me-as-your-next-ceo.html

I’d buy the NYT (for a mere $1.5bn!) and recruit John Gruber to be Editor in Chief of the “Yahoo! News” division.

I cried a little.

― mh, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh god, until I read that blog post in full I thought that was a joke, like forcing him to cover stories about Microsoft.

― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 20:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

Cringely's been half-nuts for years. Now I think he's full-nuts.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/29/joke

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

well, he's got a point

― caek, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

I guess it's not as bad as how he keeps referring to Paul Thurrott as a 'dick' purely because he writes about Microsoft.

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

cringelys nutsness is the best part of his shtick, guy is not afraid to think big

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

I don't think Cringely's being nuts there! Even if Jobs is showing pictures of full server rooms, it's not like he's shown pictures of the entire interior of the facility, and it's completely possible that it's not that densely populated.

― mh, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah but thats not some weird conspiracy designed to intimidate rivals, its just building out future capacity

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

p sure this dood killed caylee http://horace.dediu.usesthis.com

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 7 July 2011 03:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/cameron
asshole

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/08/murdoch

"congratulations to the tories"

― joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 20:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

wish someone would put this asshole in a room w/paul thurrott and then they can mutually annihilate each other

― Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

You are trying to view American McCarver on a shitty browser. Won't work.

maybe i've just been developing for legacy browsers too long at this point, but this kills me. laziest shit ever - you run a SPORTS BLOG ffs

― unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

actually i think i hate sub-gruber wannabe sycophant ux doods even worse than gruber proper - so much hot air about making software "empathetic," so much whining about not getting paid to be a thought leader, so much referring to "marco" by the mononym...

― unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/e7obs.png

― laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Read a blog post about grids. Saw a movie about Helvetica. Short. Terse. Sentences.

― laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

TS: john gruber vs lieutenant gruber from 'allo 'allo

― Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

Note that the UI screenshots are even set in Helvetica, not Arial. Some of the best evidence of good taste at Google I can ever recall.

★

RAGE!

― laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

oops already posted X:

― laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

it cannot be mocked too often. the star was a nice touch.

― joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 22:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

I listened to some of his most recent podcasts during the week and was astounded by his and Dan Benjamin's claim that it gets 800,000 downloads an episode.

Err, what? Maybe it was some kind of belated rip on The Daily's iPad app but I think they were being serious. There's no way it's true, though.

― James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think it's more like 400,000, but i could be wrong

800,000 was either the WWDC or post-WWDC download count iirc, but again, i could be wrong

― markers, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's like his amazing high trafficked and revolutionary new sports website, which is actually a fucking tumble blog about baseball where you click on the notes to find less than half a dozen people 'liked' each post and fuck-all anybody reblogged anything, because why the fuck would you.

I'd rather read David Beckham's views on fonts an touch interfaces.

― James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

are you kidding i'd TOTALLY read david beckham's views on fonts and touch interfaces

― unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Saturday, 9 July 2011 14:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dean Martin’s recipe for hamburgers. Sounds perfect. ★

nice commentary.

― laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sounds like... salted meat and a glass of bourbon

― mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/markdown-discuss/2008-March/001163.html

-J.G.

― ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

I give it a C-. Not up to the high standards of open source assholery established by the likes of Linus Torvalds. Canonical example http://lwn.net/Articles/249460/

― T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yes, in August, Apple is going to start selling Lion on USB sticks. But I think most of us really will be able to get by without them. That’s why the USB stick installers are going to cost $69, a $40 markup over the App Store download. Apple wants us to go download-only.

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 08:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

Rather than try to one-up their selections I’m going to one-down them. Herewith, then, are the Top Ten Worst Westerns. Observations inside.

You can tell he’s right on most of these, from the posters alone.

god what a bore.

― caek, Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

dude is like a demigod of suburban consumerism, yelling so loudly about inane bullshit from atop a mountain of 'slightly used' apple products. good links sometimes tho.

― shaane, Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/20/scrollvetica

Scrollvetica.

SCROLLVETICA

― ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

not to mention scroll reverser has been around since day 1 of the lion betas

― ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

does it set yr scrollbars in helvetica

― markers, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

Marco Arment is way worse; he's like distilled Gruber shit.

― stet, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol i like both of them

― markers, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's a beautiful, simple and clean way of moving your fat fingers along the edge of the touchpad.

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Elegant" is the term I hate most from the doucherati.

― stet, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

helvetigant

― ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Thursday, 21 July 2011 18:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

One of my friends followed Marco on Ping for some reason. Marco's musical tastes are something to behold.

― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 21 July 2011 18:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

Lotta Phish, I guess.

― stet, Thursday, 21 July 2011 18:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

john gruber, newspaper pundit:

Just look at how uncluttered the print edition of The Times is, and how it’s designed to emphasize what is important.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/27/news-site-design

http://www.nytimes.com/images/2011/07/27/nytfrontpage/scan.jpg

so uncluttered.

― joe, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 21:19 (six years ago) Permalink

It would be much more simpler and eleganter if they made an app to display one story at a time and enabled users to three-finger swipe between pages, and they should hand over all their ad revenue to Apple for enabling such simpleness and eleganticity.

― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 21:22 (six years ago) Permalink

I am trying to find a way to explain how the print version isn't really cluttered, but it's really the textbook definition of clutter

― mh, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 21:28 (six years ago) Permalink

When you get paid to say things, it's hard to stop saying things.

― T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 22:06 (six years ago) Permalink

typeset nytimes in helvetica

― ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 22:10 (six years ago) Permalink

the essence of good taste

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 01:17 (six years ago) Permalink

I dig the nytimes chrome app

― flop's son (dayo), Thursday, 28 July 2011 01:51 (six years ago) Permalink

the one thing that the chrome app and the ipad app do that the website does not is give me a one or two sentence blurb on what the article is about. no need to decipher what an article called 'Skin Deep: Someone Just Like Me Said, ‘Buy It’' is about

― flop's son (dayo), Thursday, 28 July 2011 01:52 (six years ago) Permalink

found it p janky when i tried it a while ago

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:28 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe they dejanked it

― flop's son (dayo), Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:30 (six years ago) Permalink

ok yeah its def p diff than before, but w/e not enough linx per page, needs more clutter

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:33 (six years ago) Permalink

thats cool all the diff views it gives you tho

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:34 (six years ago) Permalink

lol @ their names

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:35 (six years ago) Permalink

i prefer 'doric'

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:35 (six years ago) Permalink

youre a doric

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:35 (six years ago) Permalink

i think ur a doric

― flop's son (dayo), Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:37 (six years ago) Permalink

'flow' is the best, welcome this new age future of web design

― flop's son (dayo), Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:40 (six years ago) Permalink

serendipity is more my speed man

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 03:01 (six years ago) Permalink

so sad to see one of our own get left behind in the slipstream of now-future web design RIP :(

― flop's son (dayo), Thursday, 28 July 2011 03:05 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.milliondollarhomepage.com/

― markers, Thursday, 28 July 2011 03:08 (six years ago) Permalink

past, present, and future rite there imo

― markers, Thursday, 28 July 2011 03:08 (six years ago) Permalink

indefensible: #4a525aholes

― ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Friday, 29 July 2011 17:34 (six years ago) Permalink

"Outlook", an email program from Microsoft.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/08/04/google-email-preview

Six words and one set of scare quotes, all douchey. Would he say '"Word", a word processing program'? Outlook is one of the most used apps in the world. It's even out for Mac, ffs.

And why "program"? Is his house style now to ape newspapers from 1985? It's either a client or an app, though I suspect the style guide has had a douching to ensure "app" only means something that runs on iOS devices.

― stet, Saturday, 6 August 2011 19:54 (six years ago) Permalink

that one made sense to me - infantilising to highlight how un-revolutionary the new gmail feature is.

― sean gramophone, Saturday, 6 August 2011 21:22 (six years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/08/22/gawker

― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 06:37 (six years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/08/31/vintagezen

Pretty sure the only reason Apple may be getting out of the 100 million unit a year music player market is the fact it's not as profitable as making phones, not this guff about a "simpler product lineup".

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 1 September 2011 06:58 (six years ago) Permalink

"I concur with this logic."

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:16 (six years ago) Permalink

It would be kind of a ballsy move. Not many people would choose to carry both a music-only device and a phone if the phone offered the same or better functionality. A phone is the thing everybody needs, and it seems like only 50% of people even really care about music at all. Why be in a market people don't care about, when you could spend your efforts dominating one that EVERYONE cares about.

It's like saying that in order to listen to music now, you have to have an iPhone, but that's what you really want anyway.

― fields of salmon, Saturday, 3 September 2011 18:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Carol Bartz, a Year Ago, on Apple’s iAd: ‘That’s Going to Fall Apart for Them’
Daring Fireball
John Gruber
I said we should check back in a year, and here we are. Bartz may well be proven right eventually — it doesn’t seem like iAd is doing great — but as of today iAd is still here and Bartz is out.

― diamonddave85, Thursday, 8 September 2011 18:13 (six years ago) Permalink

i like him, but i wish he'd stop banging on about google being a ruthless business. SHOCK! WE KNOW

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 8 September 2011 19:39 (six years ago) Permalink

i like gruber too, but i also didn't like that bartz/iad thing

― markers, Thursday, 8 September 2011 19:41 (six years ago) Permalink

(Via Mike Monteiro, whose Twitter account page background is a painting of a topless Bea Arthur.)

lmbo

― markers, Friday, 9 September 2011 20:17 (six years ago) Permalink

Given that one of the levels involves catching suicide-jumping Foxconn factory workers, it’s more surprising that the game got into the App Store in the first place than that it was removed.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/09/13/phone-story

― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 04:43 (six years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

geez step off that soapbox, marco.

Please withdraw the free-update offer. We will not hold you to it.
Really. Please. [...] Please let us give you more money.

http://www.marco.org/2011/09/27/textmate-2-free-upgrade

― jeff tＷＥＥＤy (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Koch Brothers Flout Law With Secret Iran Sales ★
Deep report by Asjylyn Loder and David Evans for Bloomberg on Koch Industries:

A Bloomberg Markets investigation has found that Koch Industries — in addition to being involved in improper payments to win business in Africa, India and the Middle East — has sold millions of dollars of petrochemical equipment to Iran, a country the U.S. identifies as a sponsor of global terrorism.

That’s just the tip of the iceberg. Great investigative reporting.

damn what sort of inside infos u got on koch, better watch yr back grubes baby

― ice cr?m, Monday, 3 October 2011 15:06 (six years ago) Permalink

Scaling at Instagram
Mike Krieger, Instagram co-founder, on their engineering blog:
With more than 25 photos and 90 likes every second, we store a lot of data here at Instagram.
25 photos per second is more than the 24 frames per second of a motion picture.

good eye gruber!!

― jeff tＷＥＥＤy (diamonddave85), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:51 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe instagram is... MAKING A MOVIE

― ice cr?m, Monday, 3 October 2011 16:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah that was just mind-bogglingly inane

― ilx user 'silby' (silby), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Uh-oh: Gruber reads ILX - http://americanmccarver.com/post/10741316759/rickey

― James Mitchell, Monday, 3 October 2011 17:52 (six years ago) Permalink

the essence of good taste

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:17 (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

― caek, Monday, 3 October 2011 18:03 (six years ago) Permalink

~~metafilter's~~ own

― stet, Monday, 3 October 2011 18:11 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

― ilx user 'silby' (silby), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:08 (six years ago) Permalink

Gruber's structurally valid Jobs obit:

After the WWDC keynote four months ago, I saw Steve, up close.
He looked old. Not old in a way that could be measured in years or even decades, but impossibly old. Not tired, but weary; not ill or unwell, but rather, somehow, ancient. But not his eyes. His eyes were young and bright, their weapons-grade intensity intact. His sweater was well-worn, his jeans frayed at the cuffs.
But the thing that struck me were his shoes, those famous gray New Balance 991s. They too were well-worn. But also this: fresh bright green grass stains all over the heels.
Those grass stains filled my mind with questions. How did he get them? When? They looked fresh, two, three days old, at the most. Apple keynote preparation is notoriously and unsurprisingly intense. But not so intense, those stains suggested, as to consume the entirety of Jobs’s days. There is no grass in Moscone West.
Surely, my mind raced, surely he has more than one pair of those shoes. He could afford to buy the factory that made them. Why wear this grass-stained pair for the keynote, a rare and immeasurably high-profile public appearance? My guess: he didn’t notice, didn’t care. One of Jobs’s many gifts was that he knew what to give a shit about. He knew how to focus and prioritize his time and attention. Grass stains on his sneakers didn’t make the cut.
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Late last night, long hours after the news broke that he was gone, my thoughts returned to those grass stains on his shoes back in June. I realize only now why they caught my eye. Those grass stained sneakers were the product of limited time, well spent. And so the story I’ve told myself is this:
I like to think that in the run-up to his final keynote, Steve made time for a long, peaceful walk. Somewhere beautiful, where there are no footpaths and the grass grows thick. Hand-in-hand with his wife and family, the sun warm on their backs, smiles on their faces, love in their hearts, at peace with their fate.

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 6 October 2011 14:17 (six years ago) Permalink

His enduring, long-lasting legacy: that Gruber no longer has to pay for an SMS plan.

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 6 October 2011 14:18 (six years ago) Permalink

this blog is a diff color rite now

― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 22:47 (six years ago) Permalink

did he go to dark gray in mourning

― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 22:48 (six years ago) Permalink

hard to read bro

― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 22:48 (six years ago) Permalink

really on a roll with the glib, breathtakingly thick, arrogant posts at the moment! go john!

― caek, Thursday, 13 October 2011 14:59 (six years ago) Permalink

Most revealing line of his 4S review:

I asked for and received a Sprint model from Apple for testing, so that I could compare it against AT&T and Verizon.

Wasn't aware he got his stuff for free, especially when past blog posts lead you to believe he's been paying for upgrades and new phones.

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:19 (six years ago) Permalink

I'd assume (hope) that he returned it when done?

― avant-garde heterosexuals (mh), Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:20 (six years ago) Permalink

I love how Baig, Pogue, and Mossberg get review units before everyone else, and race to publish their reviews. Where by “love” I of course mean “hate”.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/03/31/baig

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:20 (six years ago) Permalink

I’m not sure why this has erupted into such a little blog publishing world scandal. It’s certainly wrong for someone to accept one of these machines and then write about it without disclosing that it was a gift (or a review unit, or whatever you want to call it), but I don’t get why some people are so up in arms about Microsoft giving them out in the first place.

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:23 (six years ago) Permalink

tbf i think 'Where by “love” I of course mean “hate”.' is a horribly formed joke about jealousy, rather than him thinking it is wrong in principle to review stuff you haven't bought.

don't get me wrong though, he's still a terrible person.

― caek, Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:24 (six years ago) Permalink

Grubes has stated multiple times that he always returns his review units.

― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:25 (six years ago) Permalink

http://twitter.com/AmyJane/status/128319587161882624

― James Mitchell, Monday, 24 October 2011 08:33 (six years ago) Permalink

haha

― ice cr?m, Monday, 24 October 2011 15:34 (six years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/#!/AmyJane/status/124281963875024896

― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Monday, 24 October 2011 15:35 (six years ago) Permalink

oh man

― Millsner, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 03:44 (six years ago) Permalink

indefensible or not, the more he descends into (unintentional) self-parody, the more entertaining I find him

― Millsner, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 03:45 (six years ago) Permalink

October 20th:

The fields aren’t new, but their usefulness for Siri is.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/10/19/phonetic

October 24th:

Yeah, seems like a nice idea to use these fields to aid Siri, but it’s not what they’re there for.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/10/24/siri-phonetic

― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 04:47 (six years ago) Permalink

damning, just damning

― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 04:51 (six years ago) Permalink

this post i feel like is top level gruber self regard http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/10/26/human-rationality

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:28 (six years ago) Permalink

whoa

i dont even

― caek, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:30 (six years ago) Permalink

wait, who actually believes that humans are rational thinking machines...?

― dayo, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:34 (six years ago) Permalink

1. economists
2. other people
3. jon gruber (himself only, not the other humans)

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Daniel Kahneman is p interesting, was just looking to see if he was on twitter before i found that gruber post

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Think this is a good thread for these guys:

http://www.marco.org/2011/10/27/double-dipping-ads-in-ipad-magazines
http://brooksreview.net/2011/10/grannell-magazines/

Enjoy your $100 per issue magazine subscriptions, everyone.

― James Mitchell, Friday, 28 October 2011 15:32 (six years ago) Permalink

sheesh

― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 28 October 2011 16:00 (six years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/11/09/get-to-work

lol

― markers, Thursday, 10 November 2011 15:12 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah grubbie's on a roll with this flash news

― sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Thursday, 10 November 2011 16:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Nothing further to say on the matter.

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:54 (six years ago) Permalink

to be fair, they don't really use quicktime for non-video content anymore!

― mh, Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:55 (six years ago) Permalink

http://vimeo.com/31926572

YAY!!!

― markers, Sunday, 13 November 2011 20:35 (six years ago) Permalink

. . .

― markers, Sunday, 13 November 2011 20:35 (six years ago) Permalink

YAY!!!

― markers, Sunday, 13 November 2011 20:35 (six years ago) Permalink

he doesn't know what the word "disinterested" means

― caek, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 19:05 (six years ago) Permalink

btw i love john siracusa

― markers, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 19:16 (six years ago) Permalink

otm

― caek, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 19:23 (six years ago) Permalink

people who do apple podcasts really don't know how to speak, eh

― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 20:10 (six years ago) Permalink

which podcasts are you referring to yo

― markers, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 00:24 (six years ago) Permalink

http://5by5.tv/hypercritical/42

― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 13:48 (six years ago) Permalink

loved that episode and he totally knows how to speak tbh!!!

― markers, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Congratulations to the Tories.

― sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:25 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

― markers, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:26 (six years ago) Permalink

this is the first interesting point i've seen him make in about 6 months http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/11/14/microsoft-admosphere

― caek, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:42 (six years ago) Permalink

It's like Roger Ebert posting about how he's just noticed that 20th Century Fox in is competion with Warner Bros.

― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:51 (six years ago) Permalink

i wasn't being sarcastic, i think it's actually a good observation.

― caek, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 15:12 (six years ago) Permalink

May sound funny coming from a typography-obsessive whose website has

lolll armchair typographer gruber is still my favorite

― sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Truly funny spoof from College Humor.

★

― caek, Friday, 18 November 2011 22:02 (six years ago) Permalink

It has been approved, it is objectively funny

― ice cr?m, Friday, 18 November 2011 22:04 (six years ago) Permalink

hahaha

― sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Friday, 18 November 2011 22:15 (six years ago) Permalink

the best part of his keynote video was seeing his Field Notes notebook in the back pocket of his dad jeans

― sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Friday, 18 November 2011 22:17 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

http://9to5mac.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/siri-for-android-clones.png?w=657

Nevermind the Siri rip-off, what makes this so very Android is all that junk in the status bar in the screenshots.

Armchair typographer and closet racist Gruber sees Korean text in a screenshot and makes the mental connection that it's "junk".

― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 05:38 (six years ago) Permalink

To be fair I think he's referring to all the icons right at the top.

― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 05:42 (six years ago) Permalink

um yeah

― caek, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:11 (six years ago) Permalink

— but to me, Roboto is just the new Arial.

never change~~

― jung money (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:21 (six years ago) Permalink

rolling in the nuggets

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 10:12 (six years ago) Permalink

john-gruber-closet-reader-of-pbfluids.html

― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 10:41 (six years ago) Permalink

http://mattgemmell.com/2012/01/03/comments-still-off/

lol how many more articles about this subject do we need from these clowns

― jung money (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 16:08 (six years ago) Permalink

But we’re talking about a personal blog, which isn’t a democracy - and furthermore, which amongst other things is a portfolio and a principal branding opportunity for the author.

*makes a jerking off motion with hand*

― jung money (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 16:10 (six years ago) Permalink

http://mattgemmell.com/images/readandtrust/badge1.png

Love all these guys who hang on Gruber's every pithy comment and link to the same shit as him.

― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 16:59 (six years ago) Permalink

wow. i thought they were just loosely affiliated; didnt know there was a federation. huge lols at this: http://readandtrust.com/newsletter.php

For just $5 each month, you'll get a weekly, long-form article from one of the many talented writers in the Read & Trust Network. Sign up today to make sure you don't miss one bit of exclusive, high-quality content.
Upcoming Monthly Topics:
* Favorite Tech Device
* Favorite Author
* Favorite Service
* Resolutions
* What's on My Bookshelf
* Heroes

― jung money (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:17 (six years ago) Permalink

the giveaway for these guys is if they have a page labelled "colophon".

― joe, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:18 (six years ago) Permalink

wait for only $5 i get an atrticle on FAV TECH DEVICE omg this is unavailable on the internet anywhere

― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:24 (six years ago) Permalink

from the people who brought you "the new yorker is too expensive and shouldn't have ads on ipad": what's on my bookshelf?

― joe, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Favorite Tech Device: iphone
Favorite Author: david foster wallace
Favorite Service: instapaper
Resolutions: infinite summer
What's on My Bookshelf: david foster wallace
Heroes: david foster wallace

― jung money (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:34 (six years ago) Permalink

some books about stanley kubrick and a beacon, a yardstick

― caek, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:35 (six years ago) Permalink

you know kingsley amis categorized misusers of english of english as either berks or wankers. gruber is definitely a wanker.

― caek, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:36 (six years ago) Permalink

edward tufte's the visual display of quantitative information, field notes notebook for each month

― jung money (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:38 (six years ago) Permalink

lol wut is read & trust idgi

― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:43 (six years ago) Permalink

read & trust is committed to gathering together the best independent writers available—the ones recommended by the writers you read and trust.

― jung money (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:44 (six years ago) Permalink

I offer the same service, except I prevaricate a little

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:46 (six years ago) Permalink

Like, I gather the best independent writers available - in a giant basket - but I'm not totally committed to it. I might stop, I dunno

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:48 (six years ago) Permalink

id pay like $3 a month for that

― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:48 (six years ago) Permalink

Sold

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:49 (six years ago) Permalink

I guess

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:49 (six years ago) Permalink

should i just wait here

― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:50 (six years ago) Permalink

vdqi is a legitimately great book, don't let the helvetica fans put you off.

― caek, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:57 (six years ago) Permalink

otm. Tufte's sans of choice is the notoriously weird Gill Sans anyway.

― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:58 (six years ago) Permalink

totes, i have the one w/the dog on the cover too

― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:58 (six years ago) Permalink

the giveaway for these guys is if they have a page labelled "colophon".
― joe

hahahaha

― markers, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:43 (six years ago) Permalink

otm

― markers, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:43 (six years ago) Permalink

Can we make an ILX "Classic & Dud" readers' network?

― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:45 (six years ago) Permalink

you have to pay 51 cents a day to have access 2 it

― markers, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:47 (six years ago) Permalink

and you need a colophon

― markers, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:47 (six years ago) Permalink

Better title would be "Suggest & Ban".

― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:52 (six years ago) Permalink

you need to say "bullshit" at least once per newsletter too

― markers, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:53 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe include the phrase "coffee nerd"

― markers, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:53 (six years ago) Permalink

sorry to break the lolz momentum but "vdqi"?

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:54 (six years ago) Permalink

edward tufte's the visual display of quantitative information, field notes notebook for each month

― jung money (diamonddave85), Wednesday, January 4, 2012 12:38 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:55 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/books_vdqi

― markers, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Subscribe now to the Suggest & Ban network for access to a new 90 minute documentary about the classic typography, simple lay-out and beautiful design of the timeless Style2.css.

― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:57 (six years ago) Permalink

hah

― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Join Dan Benjamin for our podcast, where we talk about the previous episode of our podcast!

― stet, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Meanwhile:

Installs: 1 - 5

― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:00 (six years ago) Permalink

― markers, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:05 (six years ago) Permalink

Wonder if Marco's sudden anti-comments stance has anything to do with the ~~shitty, unfriendly~~ beautiful, simple new "blogging platform" he's developed? It doesn't yet support commenting, natch.

It's so beautiful and simple, all you have to do is download it from github, extract it to your server, edit the config.php file, and Zzzzzzz

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:04 (six years ago) Permalink

i still haven't read most of siracusa's lion review, but hypercritical owns

― markers, Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:27 (six years ago) Permalink

This week’s episode of America’s favorite David Foster Wallace podcast, The Talk Show. Topics include their favorite tech devices, authors and services, new years resolutions, whats on their bookshelves, and heroes. Brought to you by the fine folks at Beacon Yardsticks.

― jung money (diamonddave85), Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:29 (six years ago) Permalink

xxp would be funny to fork marco's blog engine to add comment support

― jung money (diamonddave85), Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:32 (six years ago) Permalink

There was a good bit on either this week or last week's Talk Show where Gruber claims to have only ever used PayPal once.

http://daringfireball.net/members/

Oh.

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:41 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.loopinsight.com/2012/01/05/11-things-rim-did-right-in-2011/

― markers, Thursday, 5 January 2012 21:06 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.bynkii.com/archives/2012/01/one_minor_point_on_the_comment.html

― stet, Thursday, 5 January 2012 21:58 (six years ago) Permalink

(bynkii also indefensible, but it's nice to see them all fighting)

― stet, Thursday, 5 January 2012 21:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Not sure if bynkii.com is a site I can read & trust.

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 5 January 2012 22:12 (six years ago) Permalink

I mean comments on blogs are also more or less indefensible imo so it's just one big indefensible charlie foxtrot

― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Thursday, 5 January 2012 22:41 (six years ago) Permalink

I care only about quality and control of every single beacon and yardstick.

― James Mitchell, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:57 (six years ago) Permalink

A few things about this dialog bothered me, as a developer:

The forced use of beacons and yardsticks

― James Mitchell, Friday, 6 January 2012 20:27 (six years ago) Permalink

hahaha i have that article open in a tab right now but it's too long :-(

― markers, Friday, 6 January 2012 20:52 (six years ago) Permalink

omg

The use of “their” to refer to the singular “publisher”.
^^ English pedants hate this but it's reasonably acceptable according to some style guides

as for the "zip code" versus "ZIP code" thing, I had no idea it was supposed to be an acronym and I don't think common usage is as such anymore? Last I checked, LASER is no longer required to be in all caps either

― mh, Friday, 6 January 2012 21:22 (six years ago) Permalink

pretending that there is a universal style guide is disgusting savagery imo

― bob loblaw people (dayo), Friday, 6 January 2012 21:32 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.loopinsight.com/2012/01/09/definition-of-a-tech-migraine/

― markers, Monday, 9 January 2012 19:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Love how Gruber has taken the @parislemon trend for referring to Google+ as "horseshit" and has ~~brought his expertise and knowledge to the fore~~ ~~left his mark on technology journalism~~ changed "horseshit" to "bullshit".

Truly a beacon, a yardstick for our times.

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 12 January 2012 07:32 (six years ago) Permalink

I honestly don’t know what’s worse: if Google is so institutionally delusional that they actually believe this isn’t giving Google Plus a tremendous advantage (fair or unfair) over every other social network in the world, or if Google thinks so poorly of everyone outside the company that they think anyone is actually going to buy this line of bullshit. The best case scenario for Google is that Eric Schmidt, in his new role as chairman, has turned into a loose cannon who should just shut the fuck up.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/01/11/siegler-plus

One idea: Apple could add a “Ping” tab to each of the store-related iOS apps — iTunes, iBooks, and App Store. Another idea: Apple could break Ping out into its own standalone app, and allow this app to make purchases of any sort of iTunes Store content. I like the second idea much better, at a glance. But perhaps it’d make sense to have dedicated Ping tabs in each app — you might want to follow different people for music recommendations than apps and books.

lol

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 12 January 2012 07:37 (six years ago) Permalink

― lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2012 17:33 (six years ago) Permalink

btw gruber, sielger, 65% market share does not constitute monopoly

― lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2012 17:37 (six years ago) Permalink

The best case scenario for Google is that Eric Schmidt, in his new role as chairman, has turned into a loose cannon who should just shut the fuck up.

this sentence truly serves as a beacon, a yardstick for good and reasoned writing

― bob loblaw people (dayo), Thursday, 12 January 2012 18:11 (six years ago) Permalink

speaking of bullshit, i found this quote from sub-gruber read&truster to be particularly terrible writing:

It’s hard to breathe during this 20-minute interview of David Steel, Executive Vice President of Strategy for Samsung North America due to all the bullshit in the air.

― pat methamphetamine (diamonddave85), Thursday, 12 January 2012 19:52 (six years ago) Permalink

people who call bullshit on everything all the time are the worst

― lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2012 22:12 (six years ago) Permalink

They will never be short of work. Ah hurr hurr.

― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Friday, 13 January 2012 01:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Don't ever accuse Gruber of not posting bad news about Apple five days after the rest of the internet. He's risking his iPhone 5 review unit and who wouldn't want him to lose out on such a major blogging exclusive?

― James Mitchell, Friday, 13 January 2012 10:19 (six years ago) Permalink

@marco's beautiful, simple solution to the iPhone's mute-switch behavior:

The user told the iPhone to make noise by either scheduling an alarm or initiating an obviously noise-playing feature in an app.
The user also told the iPhone to be silent with the switch on the side.
The user has issued conflicting commands, and the iPhone can’t obey both.
It’s a typical design problem: it can’t be heavy and light and big and small. Neither decision will satisfy everyone all the time or cover every edge case: if Apple implemented Mute in Ihnatko’s preferred way, millions of people would be just as irritated when their scheduled alarms didn’t wake them up.
When implementing the Mute switch, Apple had to decide which of a user’s conflicting commands to obey, and they chose the behavior that they believed would make sense to the most people in the most situations.
That’s good design.

An even better way would be for the fucking thing to pop up a prompt saying "Your phone is on mute. Do you still want your alarm to go off at the set time?" for fuck's fucking sake.

― James Mitchell, Sunday, 15 January 2012 10:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Nah Gruber is right, that's mish. Most of the time when I switch to mute i'm not even looking at at the screen. An alarm that can be accidentally set to silent mode is stupid.

I'm not sure I believe Mr "my alarm accidentally got set for the middle of the show".

― stet, Sunday, 15 January 2012 11:59 (six years ago) Permalink

apparently he had just been given that phone from his work a day before or something? so he probably thought mute meant mute

― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:08 (six years ago) Permalink

which apparently it doesn't on the iphone

― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:09 (six years ago) Permalink

seems dumb to me but i haven't thought it through really

― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:09 (six years ago) Permalink

this is the worst debate in the world and if you have an opinion about it then you are hurting the blogosphere

― caek, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:09 (six years ago) Permalink

lol jokes

― caek, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:10 (six years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/cameron

― caek, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:10 (six years ago) Permalink

this is the worst debate in the world and if you have an opinion about it then you are hurting the blogosphere

What do you mean? There are pages upon pages of blog posts on iPhone mute behavior to spend hours and hours reading & trusting:

http://www.marco.org/2012/01/14/mute
http://daringfireball.net/2012/01/iphone_mute_switch_design
http://52tiger.net/on-the-behavior-of-the-iphone-mute-switch-ringing-vs-tone-alerts-and-overall-iphone-sound-design/
http://www.biancolo.com/articles/bad-ui-stops-symphony
http://brooksreview.net/2012/01/the-picture-says-it-all/
http://ihnatko.com/2012/01/14/daring-fireball-on-the-behavior-of-the-iphone-mute-switch/
http://blog.erikphansen.com/mute-switch-madness

― James Mitchell, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:25 (six years ago) Permalink

oh lord

― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:29 (six years ago) Permalink

colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon

― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:29 (six years ago) Permalink

should've checked to see if i were spelling the word correctly before repeating it a million times, but oh well

― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:30 (six years ago) Permalink

I replaced my colopohon (so 2005) with an Instapaper reading list.

― James Mitchell, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:34 (six years ago) Permalink

rip

― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:48 (six years ago) Permalink

i use the Mute Switch Debate as a yardstick

― stet, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:08 (six years ago) Permalink

i use it as a dick beacon

― caek, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:30 (six years ago) Permalink

i read u, but i don't know if i trust u

― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:32 (six years ago) Permalink

I leave my phone on mute overnight but set an alarm for the morning to wake up? Seems pretty common.

― mh, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:34 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't have an iphone, but i live my phone on all night because i assume if someone's gonna call me really late it's an emergency and if it's not i can just tell them they're a fucking idiot

― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:37 (six years ago) Permalink

You have a phone that's not going to receive push notifications and email all night though, right?

― mh, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:41 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah, i have some lg flip phone piece of shit from 2009. i'm sure what i do wouldn't work for everyone, but it works for me. when i get an iphone i'll probably do the same thing i do now, except i'll also shut off most of the push notifications and other annoying shit

― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:49 (six years ago) Permalink

i also shut sms off over two years ago, so i don't really have that to worry about -- no more 3 am text messages from friends who are in a bar in another country! rip

― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:50 (six years ago) Permalink

why did you shut off sms

― dayo, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:51 (six years ago) Permalink

imo if you have enough time to post on ilx then you don't really need push notifications enabled

― caek, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:51 (six years ago) Permalink

phones are these things you do web browsing on and check apps and send text messages on, and very rarely use the antiquated "voice call" feature

― mh, Sunday, 15 January 2012 16:00 (six years ago) Permalink

hahaha

― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 16:04 (six years ago) Permalink

i do own an ipod touch tbh

― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 16:04 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.loopinsight.com/2012/01/22/rim-co-ceos-to-step-down/

― markers, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 03:12 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm not sure you understand this thread

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:13 (six years ago) Permalink

http://grab.by/cBWF

― caek, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:24 (six years ago) Permalink

beyond parody

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:28 (six years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/4C1af.png

― ☂ʊηε✏ƴ@яḓṧ, ẘ♄øк☤ʟʟ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 14:56 (six years ago) Permalink

In December, however, seven months after the blast that killed Mr. Lai, another iPad factory exploded, this one in Shanghai. Once again, aluminum dust was the cause, according to interviews and Apple’s most recent supplier responsibility report. That blast injured 59 workers, with 23 hospitalized.
“It is gross negligence, after an explosion occurs, not to realize that every factory should be inspected,” said Nicholas Ashford, the occupational safety expert, who is now at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. “If it were terribly difficult to deal with aluminum dust, I would understand. But do you know how easy dust is to control? It’s called ventilation. We solved this problem over a century ago.”

Can't wait to see the back of this NYT claim chowder.

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 26 January 2012 14:29 (six years ago) Permalink

4:00 – 4:50 PM: The State of Apple
Macworld’s Jason Snell, Andy Ihnatko, and John Gruber discuss where the new, Tim Cook-led Apple will go in 2012 and beyond.

Might have to @liveblog this live stream #gruber.

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 26 January 2012 20:38 (six years ago) Permalink

Macworld? is that like the WWDC but also gay?

― ☂⋒ﬡᙓ-૪ᗩᖇᖙᔕ - ᙡ ᖺ ᗝ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 26 January 2012 20:49 (six years ago) Permalink

he's on http://www.macworld.com/

― markers, Friday, 27 January 2012 00:04 (six years ago) Permalink

p bad so far

― markers, Friday, 27 January 2012 00:06 (six years ago) Permalink

Think @marco tried explaining this to Siri and his iPhone blew up.

― James Mitchell, Monday, 30 January 2012 14:24 (six years ago) Permalink

Marco disagreed with Ben Brooks the other day. Having read, can I now trust? Why are there no yardsticks for this sort of thing?

― stet, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:04 (six years ago) Permalink

the internet is beaconless, rip, so inelegant

― lag∞n, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:05 (six years ago) Permalink

I tried searcing Duckduckgo for beacons and yardsticks, and it found nothing.

― James Mitchell, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:13 (six years ago) Permalink

lol braces http://brooksreview.net/colophon/

― stet, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:16 (six years ago) Permalink

More like the Brooks Brother Review amirite?

"I own stock in UPS, Microsoft, Abercrombie & Fitch, Oracle."

― James Mitchell, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:19 (six years ago) Permalink

*Brothers*

― James Mitchell, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Great ad on his site too: "This week's sponsor is Déjà Vu - Your visual memory. An iPhone app to snap pictures of things you want to remember."

― James Mitchell, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Haha, poor guy couldn't even get the Deck to advertise on his site, had to settle for the cheap knockoff

― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Monday, 30 January 2012 15:22 (six years ago) Permalink

I think my 2012 goal is going to be to spend a handful of hours every week trying to understand how others perceive me, so that I may not turn into these guys

― mh, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:22 (six years ago) Permalink

http://brooksreview.s3.amazonaws.com/headshot_small.jpeg

charles in charge of our beacons and our yardsticks

― lag∞n, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Also his colophon is not even a proper colophon

― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Monday, 30 January 2012 15:24 (six years ago) Permalink

needs to be screened for colophon cancer

― mh, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:26 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYUOwrPxxlk

― markers, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Cool Guys Today

― ☂⋒ﬡᙓ-૪ᗩᖇᖙᔕ - ᙡ ᖺ ᗝ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Monday, 30 January 2012 15:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Speaking of Ben Brooks, he has a credo.

― ☂⋒ﬡᙓ-૪ᗩᖇᖙᔕ - ᙡ ᖺ ᗝ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Monday, 30 January 2012 15:34 (six years ago) Permalink

When he says
"Readability is of utmost importance."

do u think he means the concept or the web/app? makes u think

― mh, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:37 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXvmSaE0JXA

― markers, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:38 (six years ago) Permalink

I can't visit youtube at work, markers :(

― mh, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:38 (six years ago) Permalink

it's kesha -- "we r who we r"

― markers, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:49 (six years ago) Permalink

first video was 4 of these dudes @ macworld

― markers, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:49 (six years ago) Permalink

tbh I'd probably rather watch kesha

― mh, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Sweet found a message board this morning full of people hating on me. Two notes though: 1. I don't have braces. 2. A message board? Really?

http://twitter.com/BenjaminBrooks/status/164028711199457281

― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:28 (six years ago) Permalink

o wait, the more elegant term is suspenders, right?

― stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:34 (six years ago) Permalink

he thought u meant TEETH BRACES lmao

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:35 (six years ago) Permalink

note the use of 'have' not 'wear'

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:35 (six years ago) Permalink

and no link smh

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:36 (six years ago) Permalink

http://i.minus.com/iqAkwkwXNI9Pb.png

― caek, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:36 (six years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/#!/BenjaminBrooks/status/164029312759111681

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:37 (six years ago) Permalink

all is forgiven

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:37 (six years ago) Permalink

Can understand why this guy hates Google so much if he keeps checking Analytics to find people like us laughing at him.

― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:38 (six years ago) Permalink

tbf this is prob the first time anyone has bothered to lol @ him

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Thought he was a leading member of the Point & Lol Network?

― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:40 (six years ago) Permalink

idk!

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:42 (six years ago) Permalink

he has a small time vibe to him

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:42 (six years ago) Permalink

2500 twitter followers ehhh

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:43 (six years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/#!/DLin71/status/164040994055127041

― markers, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:44 (six years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/#!/hrbrt/status/164029785444597761

― markers, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:44 (six years ago) Permalink

ha!

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:45 (six years ago) Permalink

im now referring to his orthodontix

― ≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:46 (six years ago) Permalink

a blog, really? etc

― stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:47 (six years ago) Permalink

i bet he has purple rubber bands to match his suspenders

― ≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:47 (six years ago) Permalink

dear blogg bro wut is twtr ty in advance

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:47 (six years ago) Permalink

i checked our analytics; someone said we had a "cobbled-together appearance".

win3.11 4lyfe, hater.

― stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:49 (six years ago) Permalink

damn what an unchill criticism

― markers, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:50 (six years ago) Permalink

the god gruber would never stoop to our level, this brooks guy needs to heed lessons

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:50 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't even understand who or what this thread is about tbh

you win, mr brooks, whatever you are

― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:51 (six years ago) Permalink

^THATS how its done

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:52 (six years ago) Permalink

hey ben brooks if 'Readability is of utmost importance' what the heck is going on here:

http://i.imgur.com/A6bLV.png

― ≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:52 (six years ago) Permalink

this thread is about elegance

― stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:52 (six years ago) Permalink

I only found his twitter post randomly on Stellar.io. Dude is stuck in 2011.

― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:52 (six years ago) Permalink

would dearly love to read criticsm of ilx by internet tech bods tho

xps or elegance, w/e

― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:52 (six years ago) Permalink

this thread is about elegance

― stet, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:52 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

5000%

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:53 (six years ago) Permalink

how is this different from hoos' "thread of social media assholes"? bullet points plz

― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:55 (six years ago) Permalink

~yardsticks furiously~

― caek, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Nice to see some other major western democracy have an unusual election for once. Congratulations to the Tories.

― caek, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:56 (six years ago) Permalink

* 1. - it's more focused on a particular subspecies of social media assholes

― ≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:56 (six years ago) Permalink

These are social media assholes we read & trust.

― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:57 (six years ago) Permalink

its abt the don 'daring fireball' gruber and his point n click posse

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:57 (six years ago) Permalink

are you in stellar, JM? I had the idea to make sthing like that, so pretty glad Kottke did it and I can go back to not bothering

xp does Hoos's thread have Helvetica?

― stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:57 (six years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net
http://readandtrust.com