indefensible: john gruber

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http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/cameron

asshole

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/green-day-rip-this-joint

yuppie

(PEDANTIC NOTE: House style here at Daring Fireball is to capitalize the second words in “iPod Mini” and “iPod Photo”, on the basis that they’re proper names, despite the fact that Apple’s marketing style is to use lowercase.)

you write a blog

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/08/campus

lol

caek, Thursday, 9 June 2011 09:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

Really beginning to think that Gruber needs his own thread, but I don't want to be the one to start it.

The latest Talk Show podcast, 35-ish minutes in. They're discussing the new iPad cover and he's practically on some kind of nerd interpretation of the old "Magnets? How the fuck do they work?" routine.

So I dare to visit his website today because of his verbal spastic attack, and one of the links is to a news story about the actress from The Wire with his heartfelt and not at all patronisingly semi-racist comment of "That’s a shame, but I’m glad to see her alive."

― James Mitchell, Thursday, March 10, 2011 8:36 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

caek, Thursday, 9 June 2011 09:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/08/campus

he is a champ at this glib commencement speech bullshit

caek, Thursday, 9 June 2011 09:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

arsehole

It's not like we could go to Islam (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 9 June 2011 09:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

The rate card for his weekly sponsorship is now $5,500 -- $286,000 a year if it sells out at full price.

http://www.businessinsider.com/daring-fireball-2011-3#ixzz1OltvorIZ

not bad considering he just lazily throws up links most of the time.

joe, Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

Don't think of iCloud as the new MobileMe; think of iCloud as the new iTunes.
This worked out just as he said.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

It also means iPhone users with iPhone-using friends and family no longer need SMS. I’ll cancel my SMS plan as soon as this ships.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/06/imessage
I don’t think over-the-air backups or media syncing are coming soon. Wireless networking just isn’t fast enough. I’m not talking about Wi-Fi syncing over a local network to iTunes running on your Mac or PC — that may well be coming soon, but it wouldn’t solve the “how can these devices be ‘post-PC’ if they require a PC?” problem. We’re not talking about why the iPad needs a USB cable; we’re talking about why it needs a PC, period.
http://daringfireball.net/2011/04/cutting_that_cord

James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha, i'd forgotten that. glad that there is a place to document gruber's predictions with the same mixture of obsessiveness and gloating that he reserves for everyone else.

joe, Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

"we’re talking about why it needs a PC, period"
What's the profit margins for Apple on iPads and iPhones versus Macbooks and Mac Pros? Suspect this might have something to do with it.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/2005/06/shuffling

The music on FM radio pretty much totally sucks

where did you read that? in a rolling stone you bought at an airport?

caek, Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

I’m biased, insofar as I consider Apple’s strategy more appealing than Google’s. But that’s because my interest lies in having the best possible user experience — the best-looking UIs, the lowest-latency responses, the smoothest animation, the most elegant designs. I share that interest with Apple. Google’s interest is in reaching the largest possible audience. That’s why I chose, at the outset of this paragraph, to say that I find Apple’s strategy “more appealing than”, rather than, say, “superior to”, Google’s. Apple’s strategy is correct for optimizing the quality of the user experience. Google’s strategy is correct for maximizing the number of users for its apps.
http://daringfireball.net/2011/06/its_all_software

James Mitchell, Thursday, 16 June 2011 07:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha liking this thread no matter how redundant it is - keep em coming

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 16 June 2011 07:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Will be interesting to see how this pans out. Not sure what it means if it’s true that their initial target is Mobile Safari specifically, not mobile WebKit in general. My guess is that it’s simply a result of Mobile Safari being so far ahead of the Android WebKit engine.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/16/project-spartan

James Mitchell, Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/17/apple-buy-phone-industry

yes, but it would be illegal under US, UK and EU law, so what's your point?

caek, Friday, 17 June 2011 18:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

Has he always been so mean-spirited? I don't remember him being so spiteful just a few years ago.

lukas, Friday, 17 June 2011 21:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://diveintomark.org/archives/2011/06/17/come-on-gruber-youre-better-than-this

url a bit generous but otherwise, oh snap

caek, Friday, 17 June 2011 22:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Gruber seems to be right about things a lot of the time, though that's easy when the people he disagrees with are prone to willfully ignoring the fact that Apple is making hundreds of millions of dollars doing what it's doing and is preposterously unlikely to make any sudden changes in strategy. Also less of a raging, belligerent asshole than you might expect.

T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Also wrt the "buy whole cell phone industry" post that is sort of following up on an earlier link about how Apple could easily have enough cash in a few years to take itself private. That is, in an industry where firms are frequently assessed by their market cap or their VC funding or what have you, Apple actually has HUMONGOUS FAT STACKS OF CASH.

T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

agreed that this guy is a bit of a dick, he has unsavory triumphalist tendencies, and thinks various middlebrow stuff is the height of human achievement - however as to his core competency, i do believe hes one of the best writers on design out there today

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Chock full of SEO crap: My comment on Marco Arment's comment on John Gruber's comment on David Pogue's comment on Google's Chromebook.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 19 June 2011 08:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

Has anyone read the marco aren't Phish post?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 19 June 2011 09:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

Damn autocorrect: Arment

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 19 June 2011 09:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

however as to his core competency, i do believe hes one of the best writers on design out there today

he doesn't really do this any more though?

caek, Sunday, 19 June 2011 10:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

Got sick of his blog a while ago - but I have to admit his comment on the Chromebook is kinda on point, why does it deserve a "good try!" sentiment?

Nhex, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

Gruber's predictions that don't come true are still reasonable and make sense when you evaluate the facts available at the time. He can't rely on his mysterious inside sources all the time, you see.

You don't have to believe me, just ask Gruber. He's always Gruber. I mean, right.

mh, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

he doesn't really do this any more though?

― caek, Sunday, June 19, 2011 6:18 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah its not most of his posts, but when he does write a long piece i feel like he really gets where design is at re todays technologies

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

also hes a v good clear writer

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

chrisdejabet Chris De Jabet by daringfireball
Just got complimented on my @daringfireball shirt at the Apple Store. Because I'm handsome.
18 hours ago

*stabs twitter in the face*

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

thought it was really out of line when this guy shot mr takagi

little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

i really like gruber

which mac writers do you guys really like? i could use some more feeds in my google reader

markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

Jean-Louis Gassee

lukas, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

totally forgot abt him, thanking u

markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 19:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

feel like this post embodies many of his less good qualities

http://grab.by/cBWF

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

how long till some shill links him this thread and ilx gets ~fireballed~

 summer is coming  (cozen), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

one can dream

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

You are trying to view American McCarver on a shitty browser. Won't work.
http://americanmccarver.com/

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 12:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

Note that the UI screenshots are even set in Helvetica, not Arial. Some of the best evidence of good taste at Google I can ever recall.

duly noted.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/28/google-plus-videos

joe, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

guh arial and helvetica are like exactly the same shit stfu already

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

A friend shared this blog post on Google Reader: http://stu.mp/2011/06/dear-yahoo-hire-me-as-your-next-ceo.html

I’d buy the NYT (for a mere $1.5bn!) and recruit John Gruber to be Editor in Chief of the “Yahoo! News” division.

I cried a little.

mh, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh god, until I read that blog post in full I thought that was a joke, like forcing him to cover stories about Microsoft.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 20:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

Cringely's been half-nuts for years. Now I think he's full-nuts.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/29/joke

James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

well, he's got a point

caek, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

I guess it's not as bad as how he keeps referring to Paul Thurrott as a 'dick' purely because he writes about Microsoft.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

cringelys nutsness is the best part of his shtick, guy is not afraid to think big

ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

I don't think Cringely's being nuts there! Even if Jobs is showing pictures of full server rooms, it's not like he's shown pictures of the entire interior of the facility, and it's completely possible that it's not that densely populated.

mh, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah but thats not some weird conspiracy designed to intimidate rivals, its just building out future capacity

ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

p sure this dood killed caylee http://horace.dediu.usesthis.com

ice cr?m, Thursday, 7 July 2011 03:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/cameron

asshole

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/08/murdoch

"congratulations to the tories"

joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 20:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

wish someone would put this asshole in a room w/paul thurrott and then they can mutually annihilate each other

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

You are trying to view American McCarver on a shitty browser. Won't work.

maybe i've just been developing for legacy browsers too long at this point, but this kills me. laziest shit ever - you run a SPORTS BLOG ffs

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

actually i think i hate sub-gruber wannabe sycophant ux doods even worse than gruber proper - so much hot air about making software "empathetic," so much whining about not getting paid to be a thought leader, so much referring to "marco" by the mononym...

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/e7obs.png

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Read a blog post about grids. Saw a movie about Helvetica. Short. Terse. Sentences.

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

TS: john gruber vs lieutenant gruber from 'allo 'allo

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

Note that the UI screenshots are even set in Helvetica, not Arial. Some of the best evidence of good taste at Google I can ever recall.

RAGE!

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

oops already posted X:

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

it cannot be mocked too often. the star was a nice touch.

joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 22:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

I listened to some of his most recent podcasts during the week and was astounded by his and Dan Benjamin's claim that it gets 800,000 downloads an episode.

Err, what? Maybe it was some kind of belated rip on The Daily's iPad app but I think they were being serious. There's no way it's true, though.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think it's more like 400,000, but i could be wrong

800,000 was either the WWDC or post-WWDC download count iirc, but again, i could be wrong

markers, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's like his amazing high trafficked and revolutionary new sports website, which is actually a fucking tumble blog about baseball where you click on the notes to find less than half a dozen people 'liked' each post and fuck-all anybody reblogged anything, because why the fuck would you.

I'd rather read David Beckham's views on fonts an touch interfaces.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

are you kidding i'd TOTALLY read david beckham's views on fonts and touch interfaces

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Saturday, 9 July 2011 14:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dean Martin’s recipe for hamburgers. Sounds perfect.

nice commentary.

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sounds like... salted meat and a glass of bourbon

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

I give it a C-. Not up to the high standards of open source assholery established by the likes of Linus Torvalds. Canonical example http://lwn.net/Articles/249460/

T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yes, in August, Apple is going to start selling Lion on USB sticks. But I think most of us really will be able to get by without them. That’s why the USB stick installers are going to cost $69, a $40 markup over the App Store download. Apple wants us to go download-only.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 08:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

Rather than try to one-up their selections I’m going to one-down them. Herewith, then, are the Top Ten Worst Westerns. Observations inside.

You can tell he’s right on most of these, from the posters alone.

god what a bore.

caek, Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

dude is like a demigod of suburban consumerism, yelling so loudly about inane bullshit from atop a mountain of 'slightly used' apple products. good links sometimes tho.

shaane, Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/20/scrollvetica

Scrollvetica.

SCROLLVETICA

ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

not to mention scroll reverser has been around since day 1 of the lion betas

ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

does it set yr scrollbars in helvetica

markers, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

Marco Arment is way worse; he's like distilled Gruber shit.

stet, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol i like both of them

markers, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's a beautiful, simple and clean way of moving your fat fingers along the edge of the touchpad.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Elegant" is the term I hate most from the doucherati.

stet, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

helvetigant

ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Thursday, 21 July 2011 18:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

One of my friends followed Marco on Ping for some reason. Marco's musical tastes are something to behold.

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 21 July 2011 18:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

Lotta Phish, I guess.

stet, Thursday, 21 July 2011 18:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

john gruber, newspaper pundit:

Just look at how uncluttered the print edition of The Times is, and how it’s designed to emphasize what is important.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/27/news-site-design

http://www.nytimes.com/images/2011/07/27/nytfrontpage/scan.jpg

so uncluttered.

joe, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 21:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

It would be much more simpler and eleganter if they made an app to display one story at a time and enabled users to three-finger swipe between pages, and they should hand over all their ad revenue to Apple for enabling such simpleness and eleganticity.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 21:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

I am trying to find a way to explain how the print version isn't really cluttered, but it's really the textbook definition of clutter

mh, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 21:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

When you get paid to say things, it's hard to stop saying things.

T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 22:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

typeset nytimes in helvetica

ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 22:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

the essence of good taste

ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 01:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

I dig the nytimes chrome app

flop's son (dayo), Thursday, 28 July 2011 01:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

the one thing that the chrome app and the ipad app do that the website does not is give me a one or two sentence blurb on what the article is about. no need to decipher what an article called 'Skin Deep: Someone Just Like Me Said, ‘Buy It’' is about

flop's son (dayo), Thursday, 28 July 2011 01:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

found it p janky when i tried it a while ago

ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

maybe they dejanked it

flop's son (dayo), Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

ok yeah its def p diff than before, but w/e not enough linx per page, needs more clutter

ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

thats cool all the diff views it gives you tho

ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol @ their names

ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

i prefer 'doric'

ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

youre a doric

ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think ur a doric

flop's son (dayo), Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

'flow' is the best, welcome this new age future of web design

flop's son (dayo), Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

serendipity is more my speed man

ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 03:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

so sad to see one of our own get left behind in the slipstream of now-future web design RIP :(

flop's son (dayo), Thursday, 28 July 2011 03:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://www.milliondollarhomepage.com/

markers, Thursday, 28 July 2011 03:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

past, present, and future rite there imo

markers, Thursday, 28 July 2011 03:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

indefensible: #4a525aholes

ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Friday, 29 July 2011 17:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Outlook", an email program from Microsoft.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/08/04/google-email-preview

Six words and one set of scare quotes, all douchey. Would he say '"Word", a word processing program'? Outlook is one of the most used apps in the world. It's even out for Mac, ffs.

And why "program"? Is his house style now to ape newspapers from 1985? It's either a client or an app, though I suspect the style guide has had a douching to ensure "app" only means something that runs on iOS devices.

stet, Saturday, 6 August 2011 19:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

that one made sense to me - infantilising to highlight how un-revolutionary the new gmail feature is.

sean gramophone, Saturday, 6 August 2011 21:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/08/22/gawker

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 06:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/08/31/vintagezen

Pretty sure the only reason Apple may be getting out of the 100 million unit a year music player market is the fact it's not as profitable as making phones, not this guff about a "simpler product lineup".

James Mitchell, Thursday, 1 September 2011 06:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

"I concur with this logic."

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

It would be kind of a ballsy move. Not many people would choose to carry both a music-only device and a phone if the phone offered the same or better functionality. A phone is the thing everybody needs, and it seems like only 50% of people even really care about music at all. Why be in a market people don't care about, when you could spend your efforts dominating one that EVERYONE cares about.

It's like saying that in order to listen to music now, you have to have an iPhone, but that's what you really want anyway.

fields of salmon, Saturday, 3 September 2011 18:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

Carol Bartz, a Year Ago, on Apple’s iAd: ‘That’s Going to Fall Apart for Them’
Daring Fireball
John Gruber
I said we should check back in a year, and here we are. Bartz may well be proven right eventually — it doesn’t seem like iAd is doing great — but as of today iAd is still here and Bartz is out.

diamonddave85, Thursday, 8 September 2011 18:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

i like him, but i wish he'd stop banging on about google being a ruthless business. SHOCK! WE KNOW

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 8 September 2011 19:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

i like gruber too, but i also didn't like that bartz/iad thing

markers, Thursday, 8 September 2011 19:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

(Via Mike Monteiro, whose Twitter account page background is a painting of a topless Bea Arthur.)

lmbo

markers, Friday, 9 September 2011 20:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

Given that one of the levels involves catching suicide-jumping Foxconn factory workers, it’s more surprising that the game got into the App Store in the first place than that it was removed.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/09/13/phone-story

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 04:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

geez step off that soapbox, marco.

Please withdraw the free-update offer. We will not hold you to it.

Really. Please. [...] Please let us give you more money.

http://www.marco.org/2011/09/27/textmate-2-free-upgrade

jeff tWEEDy (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

Koch Brothers Flout Law With Secret Iran Sales ★
Deep report by Asjylyn Loder and David Evans for Bloomberg on Koch Industries:

A Bloomberg Markets investigation has found that Koch Industries — in addition to being involved in improper payments to win business in Africa, India and the Middle East — has sold millions of dollars of petrochemical equipment to Iran, a country the U.S. identifies as a sponsor of global terrorism.

That’s just the tip of the iceberg. Great investigative reporting.

damn what sort of inside infos u got on koch, better watch yr back grubes baby

ice cr?m, Monday, 3 October 2011 15:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

Scaling at Instagram

Mike Krieger, Instagram co-founder, on their engineering blog:

With more than 25 photos and 90 likes every second, we store a lot of data here at Instagram.

25 photos per second is more than the 24 frames per second of a motion picture.

good eye gruber!!

jeff tWEEDy (diamonddave85), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

maybe instagram is... MAKING A MOVIE

ice cr?m, Monday, 3 October 2011 16:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah that was just mind-bogglingly inane

ilx user 'silby' (silby), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

Uh-oh: Gruber reads ILX - http://americanmccarver.com/post/10741316759/rickey

James Mitchell, Monday, 3 October 2011 17:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

the essence of good taste

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:17 (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

caek, Monday, 3 October 2011 18:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

metafilter's own

stet, Monday, 3 October 2011 18:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol

ilx user 'silby' (silby), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

Gruber's structurally valid Jobs obit:

After the WWDC keynote four months ago, I saw Steve, up close.

He looked old. Not old in a way that could be measured in years or even decades, but impossibly old. Not tired, but weary; not ill or unwell, but rather, somehow, ancient. But not his eyes. His eyes were young and bright, their weapons-grade intensity intact. His sweater was well-worn, his jeans frayed at the cuffs.

But the thing that struck me were his shoes, those famous gray New Balance 991s. They too were well-worn. But also this: fresh bright green grass stains all over the heels.

Those grass stains filled my mind with questions. How did he get them? When? They looked fresh, two, three days old, at the most. Apple keynote preparation is notoriously and unsurprisingly intense. But not so intense, those stains suggested, as to consume the entirety of Jobs’s days. There is no grass in Moscone West.

Surely, my mind raced, surely he has more than one pair of those shoes. He could afford to buy the factory that made them. Why wear this grass-stained pair for the keynote, a rare and immeasurably high-profile public appearance? My guess: he didn’t notice, didn’t care. One of Jobs’s many gifts was that he knew what to give a shit about. He knew how to focus and prioritize his time and attention. Grass stains on his sneakers didn’t make the cut.

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Late last night, long hours after the news broke that he was gone, my thoughts returned to those grass stains on his shoes back in June. I realize only now why they caught my eye. Those grass stained sneakers were the product of limited time, well spent. And so the story I’ve told myself is this:

I like to think that in the run-up to his final keynote, Steve made time for a long, peaceful walk. Somewhere beautiful, where there are no footpaths and the grass grows thick. Hand-in-hand with his wife and family, the sun warm on their backs, smiles on their faces, love in their hearts, at peace with their fate.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 6 October 2011 14:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

His enduring, long-lasting legacy: that Gruber no longer has to pay for an SMS plan.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 6 October 2011 14:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

this blog is a diff color rite now

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 22:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

did he go to dark gray in mourning

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 22:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

hard to read bro

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 22:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

really on a roll with the glib, breathtakingly thick, arrogant posts at the moment! go john!

caek, Thursday, 13 October 2011 14:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

Most revealing line of his 4S review:

I asked for and received a Sprint model from Apple for testing, so that I could compare it against AT&T and Verizon.
Wasn't aware he got his stuff for free, especially when past blog posts lead you to believe he's been paying for upgrades and new phones.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'd assume (hope) that he returned it when done?

avant-garde heterosexuals (mh), Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

I love how Baig, Pogue, and Mossberg get review units before everyone else, and race to publish their reviews. Where by “love” I of course mean “hate”.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/03/31/baig

James Mitchell, Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

I’m not sure why this has erupted into such a little blog publishing world scandal. It’s certainly wrong for someone to accept one of these machines and then write about it without disclosing that it was a gift (or a review unit, or whatever you want to call it), but I don’t get why some people are so up in arms about Microsoft giving them out in the first place.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

tbf i think 'Where by “love” I of course mean “hate”.' is a horribly formed joke about jealousy, rather than him thinking it is wrong in principle to review stuff you haven't bought.

don't get me wrong though, he's still a terrible person.

caek, Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Grubes has stated multiple times that he always returns his review units.

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://twitter.com/AmyJane/status/128319587161882624

James Mitchell, Monday, 24 October 2011 08:33 (six years ago) Permalink

haha

ice cr?m, Monday, 24 October 2011 15:34 (six years ago) Permalink

oh man

Millsner, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 03:44 (six years ago) Permalink

indefensible or not, the more he descends into (unintentional) self-parody, the more entertaining I find him

Millsner, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 03:45 (six years ago) Permalink

October 20th:

The fields aren’t new, but their usefulness for Siri is.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/10/19/phonetic

October 24th:

Yeah, seems like a nice idea to use these fields to aid Siri, but it’s not what they’re there for.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/10/24/siri-phonetic

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 04:47 (six years ago) Permalink

damning, just damning

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 04:51 (six years ago) Permalink

this post i feel like is top level gruber self regard http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/10/26/human-rationality

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:28 (six years ago) Permalink

whoa

i dont even

caek, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:30 (six years ago) Permalink

wait, who actually believes that humans are rational thinking machines...?

dayo, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:34 (six years ago) Permalink

1. economists
2. other people
3. jon gruber (himself only, not the other humans)

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Daniel Kahneman is p interesting, was just looking to see if he was on twitter before i found that gruber post

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Think this is a good thread for these guys:

http://www.marco.org/2011/10/27/double-dipping-ads-in-ipad-magazines
http://brooksreview.net/2011/10/grannell-magazines/

Enjoy your $100 per issue magazine subscriptions, everyone.

James Mitchell, Friday, 28 October 2011 15:32 (six years ago) Permalink

sheesh

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 28 October 2011 16:00 (six years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/11/09/get-to-work

lol

markers, Thursday, 10 November 2011 15:12 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah grubbie's on a roll with this flash news

sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Thursday, 10 November 2011 16:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Nothing further to say on the matter.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:54 (six years ago) Permalink

to be fair, they don't really use quicktime for non-video content anymore!

mh, Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:55 (six years ago) Permalink

http://vimeo.com/31926572

YAY!!!

markers, Sunday, 13 November 2011 20:35 (six years ago) Permalink

. . .

markers, Sunday, 13 November 2011 20:35 (six years ago) Permalink

YAY!!!

markers, Sunday, 13 November 2011 20:35 (six years ago) Permalink

he doesn't know what the word "disinterested" means

caek, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 19:05 (six years ago) Permalink

btw i love john siracusa

markers, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 19:16 (six years ago) Permalink

otm

caek, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 19:23 (six years ago) Permalink

people who do apple podcasts really don't know how to speak, eh

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 20:10 (six years ago) Permalink

which podcasts are you referring to yo

markers, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 00:24 (six years ago) Permalink

http://5by5.tv/hypercritical/42

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 13:48 (six years ago) Permalink

loved that episode and he totally knows how to speak tbh!!!

markers, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Congratulations to the Tories.

sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:25 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

markers, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:26 (six years ago) Permalink

this is the first interesting point i've seen him make in about 6 months http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/11/14/microsoft-admosphere

caek, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:42 (six years ago) Permalink

It's like Roger Ebert posting about how he's just noticed that 20th Century Fox in is competion with Warner Bros.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:51 (six years ago) Permalink

i wasn't being sarcastic, i think it's actually a good observation.

caek, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 15:12 (six years ago) Permalink

May sound funny coming from a typography-obsessive whose website has

lolll armchair typographer gruber is still my favorite

sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Truly funny spoof from College Humor.

caek, Friday, 18 November 2011 22:02 (six years ago) Permalink

It has been approved, it is objectively funny

ice cr?m, Friday, 18 November 2011 22:04 (six years ago) Permalink

hahaha

sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Friday, 18 November 2011 22:15 (six years ago) Permalink

the best part of his keynote video was seeing his Field Notes notebook in the back pocket of his dad jeans

sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Friday, 18 November 2011 22:17 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

http://9to5mac.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/siri-for-android-clones.png?w=657

Nevermind the Siri rip-off, what makes this so very Android is all that junk in the status bar in the screenshots.
Armchair typographer and closet racist Gruber sees Korean text in a screenshot and makes the mental connection that it's "junk".

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 05:38 (six years ago) Permalink

To be fair I think he's referring to all the icons right at the top.

Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 05:42 (six years ago) Permalink

um yeah

caek, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:11 (six years ago) Permalink

— but to me, Roboto is just the new Arial.

never change~~

jung money (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:21 (six years ago) Permalink

rolling in the nuggets

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 10:12 (six years ago) Permalink

john-gruber-closet-reader-of-pbfluids.html

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 10:41 (six years ago) Permalink

http://mattgemmell.com/2012/01/03/comments-still-off/

lol how many more articles about this subject do we need from these clowns

jung money (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 16:08 (six years ago) Permalink

But we’re talking about a personal blog, which isn’t a democracy - and furthermore, which amongst other things is a portfolio and a principal branding opportunity for the author.

*makes a jerking off motion with hand*

jung money (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 16:10 (six years ago) Permalink

http://mattgemmell.com/images/readandtrust/badge1.png

Love all these guys who hang on Gruber's every pithy comment and link to the same shit as him.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 16:59 (six years ago) Permalink

wow. i thought they were just loosely affiliated; didnt know there was a federation. huge lols at this: http://readandtrust.com/newsletter.php


For just $5 each month, you'll get a weekly, long-form article from one of the many talented writers in the Read & Trust Network. Sign up today to make sure you don't miss one bit of exclusive, high-quality content.

Upcoming Monthly Topics:
* Favorite Tech Device
* Favorite Author
* Favorite Service
* Resolutions
* What's on My Bookshelf
* Heroes

jung money (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:17 (six years ago) Permalink

the giveaway for these guys is if they have a page labelled "colophon".

joe, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:18 (six years ago) Permalink

wait for only $5 i get an atrticle on FAV TECH DEVICE omg this is unavailable on the internet anywhere

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:24 (six years ago) Permalink

from the people who brought you "the new yorker is too expensive and shouldn't have ads on ipad": what's on my bookshelf?

joe, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Favorite Tech Device: iphone
Favorite Author: david foster wallace
Favorite Service: instapaper
Resolutions: infinite summer
What's on My Bookshelf: david foster wallace
Heroes: david foster wallace

jung money (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:34 (six years ago) Permalink

some books about stanley kubrick and a beacon, a yardstick

caek, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:35 (six years ago) Permalink

you know kingsley amis categorized misusers of english of english as either berks or wankers. gruber is definitely a wanker.

caek, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:36 (six years ago) Permalink

edward tufte's the visual display of quantitative information, field notes notebook for each month

jung money (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:38 (six years ago) Permalink

lol wut is read & trust idgi

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:43 (six years ago) Permalink

read & trust is committed to gathering together the best independent writers available—the ones recommended by the writers you read and trust.

jung money (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:44 (six years ago) Permalink

I offer the same service, except I prevaricate a little

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:46 (six years ago) Permalink

Like, I gather the best independent writers available - in a giant basket - but I'm not totally committed to it. I might stop, I dunno

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:48 (six years ago) Permalink

id pay like $3 a month for that

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:48 (six years ago) Permalink

Sold

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:49 (six years ago) Permalink

I guess

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:49 (six years ago) Permalink

should i just wait here

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:50 (six years ago) Permalink

vdqi is a legitimately great book, don't let the helvetica fans put you off.

caek, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:57 (six years ago) Permalink

otm. Tufte's sans of choice is the notoriously weird Gill Sans anyway.

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:58 (six years ago) Permalink

totes, i have the one w/the dog on the cover too

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:58 (six years ago) Permalink

the giveaway for these guys is if they have a page labelled "colophon".

― joe

hahahaha

markers, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:43 (six years ago) Permalink

otm

markers, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:43 (six years ago) Permalink

Can we make an ILX "Classic & Dud" readers' network?

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:45 (six years ago) Permalink

you have to pay 51 cents a day to have access 2 it

markers, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:47 (six years ago) Permalink

and you need a colophon

markers, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:47 (six years ago) Permalink

Better title would be "Suggest & Ban".

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:52 (six years ago) Permalink

you need to say "bullshit" at least once per newsletter too

markers, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:53 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe include the phrase "coffee nerd"

markers, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:53 (six years ago) Permalink

sorry to break the lolz momentum but "vdqi"?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:54 (six years ago) Permalink

edward tufte's the visual display of quantitative information, field notes notebook for each month

― jung money (diamonddave85), Wednesday, January 4, 2012 12:38 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:55 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/books_vdqi

markers, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Subscribe now to the Suggest & Ban network for access to a new 90 minute documentary about the classic typography, simple lay-out and beautiful design of the timeless Style2.css.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:57 (six years ago) Permalink

hah

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Join Dan Benjamin for our podcast, where we talk about the previous episode of our podcast!

stet, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Meanwhile:

Installs: 1 - 5

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:00 (six years ago) Permalink

XD

markers, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:05 (six years ago) Permalink

Wonder if Marco's sudden anti-comments stance has anything to do with the shitty, unfriendly beautiful, simple new "blogging platform" he's developed? It doesn't yet support commenting, natch.

It's so beautiful and simple, all you have to do is download it from github, extract it to your server, edit the config.php file, and Zzzzzzz

James Mitchell, Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:04 (six years ago) Permalink

i still haven't read most of siracusa's lion review, but hypercritical owns

markers, Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:27 (six years ago) Permalink

This week’s episode of America’s favorite David Foster Wallace podcast, The Talk Show. Topics include their favorite tech devices, authors and services, new years resolutions, whats on their bookshelves, and heroes. Brought to you by the fine folks at Beacon Yardsticks.

jung money (diamonddave85), Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:29 (six years ago) Permalink

xxp would be funny to fork marco's blog engine to add comment support

jung money (diamonddave85), Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:32 (six years ago) Permalink

There was a good bit on either this week or last week's Talk Show where Gruber claims to have only ever used PayPal once.

http://daringfireball.net/members/

Oh.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:41 (six years ago) Permalink

(bynkii also indefensible, but it's nice to see them all fighting)

stet, Thursday, 5 January 2012 21:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Not sure if bynkii.com is a site I can read & trust.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 5 January 2012 22:12 (six years ago) Permalink

I mean comments on blogs are also more or less indefensible imo so it's just one big indefensible charlie foxtrot

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Thursday, 5 January 2012 22:41 (six years ago) Permalink

A few things about this dialog bothered me, as a developer:

  • The forced use of beacons and yardsticks

James Mitchell, Friday, 6 January 2012 20:27 (six years ago) Permalink

hahaha i have that article open in a tab right now but it's too long :-(

markers, Friday, 6 January 2012 20:52 (six years ago) Permalink

omg

The use of “their” to refer to the singular “publisher”.
^^ English pedants hate this but it's reasonably acceptable according to some style guides

as for the "zip code" versus "ZIP code" thing, I had no idea it was supposed to be an acronym and I don't think common usage is as such anymore? Last I checked, LASER is no longer required to be in all caps either

mh, Friday, 6 January 2012 21:22 (six years ago) Permalink

pretending that there is a universal style guide is disgusting savagery imo

bob loblaw people (dayo), Friday, 6 January 2012 21:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Love how Gruber has taken the @parislemon trend for referring to Google+ as "horseshit" and has brought his expertise and knowledge to the fore left his mark on technology journalism changed "horseshit" to "bullshit".

Truly a beacon, a yardstick for our times.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 12 January 2012 07:32 (six years ago) Permalink

I honestly don’t know what’s worse: if Google is so institutionally delusional that they actually believe this isn’t giving Google Plus a tremendous advantage (fair or unfair) over every other social network in the world, or if Google thinks so poorly of everyone outside the company that they think anyone is actually going to buy this line of bullshit. The best case scenario for Google is that Eric Schmidt, in his new role as chairman, has turned into a loose cannon who should just shut the fuck up.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/01/11/siegler-plus
One idea: Apple could add a “Ping” tab to each of the store-related iOS apps — iTunes, iBooks, and App Store. Another idea: Apple could break Ping out into its own standalone app, and allow this app to make purchases of any sort of iTunes Store content. I like the second idea much better, at a glance. But perhaps it’d make sense to have dedicated Ping tabs in each app — you might want to follow different people for music recommendations than apps and books.
lol

James Mitchell, Thursday, 12 January 2012 07:37 (six years ago) Permalink

ha

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2012 17:33 (six years ago) Permalink

btw gruber, sielger, 65% market share does not constitute monopoly

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2012 17:37 (six years ago) Permalink

The best case scenario for Google is that Eric Schmidt, in his new role as chairman, has turned into a loose cannon who should just shut the fuck up.

this sentence truly serves as a beacon, a yardstick for good and reasoned writing

bob loblaw people (dayo), Thursday, 12 January 2012 18:11 (six years ago) Permalink

speaking of bullshit, i found this quote from sub-gruber read&truster to be particularly terrible writing:

It’s hard to breathe during this 20-minute interview of David Steel, Executive Vice President of Strategy for Samsung North America due to all the bullshit in the air.

pat methamphetamine (diamonddave85), Thursday, 12 January 2012 19:52 (six years ago) Permalink

people who call bullshit on everything all the time are the worst

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2012 22:12 (six years ago) Permalink

They will never be short of work. Ah hurr hurr.

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Friday, 13 January 2012 01:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Don't ever accuse Gruber of not posting bad news about Apple five days after the rest of the internet. He's risking his iPhone 5 review unit and who wouldn't want him to lose out on such a major blogging exclusive?

James Mitchell, Friday, 13 January 2012 10:19 (six years ago) Permalink

@marco's beautiful, simple solution to the iPhone's mute-switch behavior:

The user told the iPhone to make noise by either scheduling an alarm or initiating an obviously noise-playing feature in an app.

The user also told the iPhone to be silent with the switch on the side.

The user has issued conflicting commands, and the iPhone can’t obey both.

It’s a typical design problem: it can’t be heavy and light and big and small. Neither decision will satisfy everyone all the time or cover every edge case: if Apple implemented Mute in Ihnatko’s preferred way, millions of people would be just as irritated when their scheduled alarms didn’t wake them up.

When implementing the Mute switch, Apple had to decide which of a user’s conflicting commands to obey, and they chose the behavior that they believed would make sense to the most people in the most situations.

That’s good design.

An even better way would be for the fucking thing to pop up a prompt saying "Your phone is on mute. Do you still want your alarm to go off at the set time?" for fuck's fucking sake.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 15 January 2012 10:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Nah Gruber is right, that's mish. Most of the time when I switch to mute i'm not even looking at at the screen. An alarm that can be accidentally set to silent mode is stupid.

I'm not sure I believe Mr "my alarm accidentally got set for the middle of the show".

stet, Sunday, 15 January 2012 11:59 (six years ago) Permalink

apparently he had just been given that phone from his work a day before or something? so he probably thought mute meant mute

markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:08 (six years ago) Permalink

which apparently it doesn't on the iphone

markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:09 (six years ago) Permalink

seems dumb to me but i haven't thought it through really

markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:09 (six years ago) Permalink

this is the worst debate in the world and if you have an opinion about it then you are hurting the blogosphere

caek, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:09 (six years ago) Permalink

lol jokes

caek, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:10 (six years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/cameron

caek, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:10 (six years ago) Permalink

oh lord

markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:29 (six years ago) Permalink

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markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:29 (six years ago) Permalink

should've checked to see if i were spelling the word correctly before repeating it a million times, but oh well

markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:30 (six years ago) Permalink

I replaced my colopohon (so 2005) with an Instapaper reading list.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:34 (six years ago) Permalink

rip

markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:48 (six years ago) Permalink

i use the Mute Switch Debate as a yardstick

stet, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:08 (six years ago) Permalink

i use it as a dick beacon

caek, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:30 (six years ago) Permalink

i read u, but i don't know if i trust u

markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:32 (six years ago) Permalink

I leave my phone on mute overnight but set an alarm for the morning to wake up? Seems pretty common.

mh, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:34 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't have an iphone, but i live my phone on all night because i assume if someone's gonna call me really late it's an emergency and if it's not i can just tell them they're a fucking idiot

markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:37 (six years ago) Permalink

You have a phone that's not going to receive push notifications and email all night though, right?

mh, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:41 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah, i have some lg flip phone piece of shit from 2009. i'm sure what i do wouldn't work for everyone, but it works for me. when i get an iphone i'll probably do the same thing i do now, except i'll also shut off most of the push notifications and other annoying shit

markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:49 (six years ago) Permalink

i also shut sms off over two years ago, so i don't really have that to worry about -- no more 3 am text messages from friends who are in a bar in another country! rip

markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:50 (six years ago) Permalink

why did you shut off sms

dayo, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:51 (six years ago) Permalink

imo if you have enough time to post on ilx then you don't really need push notifications enabled

caek, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:51 (six years ago) Permalink

phones are these things you do web browsing on and check apps and send text messages on, and very rarely use the antiquated "voice call" feature

mh, Sunday, 15 January 2012 16:00 (six years ago) Permalink

hahaha

markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 16:04 (six years ago) Permalink

i do own an ipod touch tbh

markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 16:04 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.loopinsight.com/2012/01/22/rim-co-ceos-to-step-down/

markers, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 03:12 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm not sure you understand this thread

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:13 (six years ago) Permalink

http://grab.by/cBWF

caek, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:24 (six years ago) Permalink

beyond parody

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:28 (six years ago) Permalink

In December, however, seven months after the blast that killed Mr. Lai, another iPad factory exploded, this one in Shanghai. Once again, aluminum dust was the cause, according to interviews and Apple’s most recent supplier responsibility report. That blast injured 59 workers, with 23 hospitalized.

“It is gross negligence, after an explosion occurs, not to realize that every factory should be inspected,” said Nicholas Ashford, the occupational safety expert, who is now at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. “If it were terribly difficult to deal with aluminum dust, I would understand. But do you know how easy dust is to control? It’s called ventilation. We solved this problem over a century ago.”

Can't wait to see the back of this NYT claim chowder.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 26 January 2012 14:29 (six years ago) Permalink

4:00 – 4:50 PM: The State of Apple

Macworld’s Jason Snell, Andy Ihnatko, and John Gruber discuss where the new, Tim Cook-led Apple will go in 2012 and beyond.

Might have to @liveblog this live stream #gruber.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 26 January 2012 20:38 (six years ago) Permalink

Macworld? is that like the WWDC but also gay?

☂⋒ﬡᙓ-૪ᗩᖇᖙᔕ - ᙡ ᖺ ᗝ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 26 January 2012 20:49 (six years ago) Permalink

he's on http://www.macworld.com/

markers, Friday, 27 January 2012 00:04 (six years ago) Permalink

p bad so far

markers, Friday, 27 January 2012 00:06 (six years ago) Permalink

Marco disagreed with Ben Brooks the other day. Having read, can I now trust? Why are there no yardsticks for this sort of thing?

stet, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:04 (six years ago) Permalink

the internet is beaconless, rip, so inelegant

lag∞n, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:05 (six years ago) Permalink

I tried searcing Duckduckgo for beacons and yardsticks, and it found nothing.

James Mitchell, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:13 (six years ago) Permalink

lol braces http://brooksreview.net/colophon/

stet, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:16 (six years ago) Permalink

More like the Brooks Brother Review amirite?

"I own stock in UPS, Microsoft, Abercrombie & Fitch, Oracle."

James Mitchell, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:19 (six years ago) Permalink

*Brothers*

James Mitchell, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Great ad on his site too: "This week's sponsor is Déjà Vu - Your visual memory. An iPhone app to snap pictures of things you want to remember."

James Mitchell, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Haha, poor guy couldn't even get the Deck to advertise on his site, had to settle for the cheap knockoff

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Monday, 30 January 2012 15:22 (six years ago) Permalink

I think my 2012 goal is going to be to spend a handful of hours every week trying to understand how others perceive me, so that I may not turn into these guys

mh, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:22 (six years ago) Permalink

http://brooksreview.s3.amazonaws.com/headshot_small.jpeg

charles in charge of our beacons and our yardsticks

lag∞n, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Also his colophon is not even a proper colophon

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Monday, 30 January 2012 15:24 (six years ago) Permalink

needs to be screened for colophon cancer

mh, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:26 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYUOwrPxxlk

markers, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Cool Guys Today

☂⋒ﬡᙓ-૪ᗩᖇᖙᔕ - ᙡ ᖺ ᗝ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Monday, 30 January 2012 15:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Speaking of Ben Brooks, he has a credo.

☂⋒ﬡᙓ-૪ᗩᖇᖙᔕ - ᙡ ᖺ ᗝ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Monday, 30 January 2012 15:34 (six years ago) Permalink

When he says
"Readability is of utmost importance."

do u think he means the concept or the web/app? makes u think

mh, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:37 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXvmSaE0JXA

markers, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:38 (six years ago) Permalink

I can't visit youtube at work, markers :(

mh, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:38 (six years ago) Permalink

it's kesha -- "we r who we r"

markers, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:49 (six years ago) Permalink

first video was 4 of these dudes @ macworld

markers, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:49 (six years ago) Permalink

tbh I'd probably rather watch kesha

mh, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Sweet found a message board this morning full of people hating on me. Two notes though: 1. I don't have braces. 2. A message board? Really?
http://twitter.com/BenjaminBrooks/status/164028711199457281

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:28 (six years ago) Permalink

o wait, the more elegant term is suspenders, right?

stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:34 (six years ago) Permalink

he thought u meant TEETH BRACES lmao

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:35 (six years ago) Permalink

note the use of 'have' not 'wear'

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:35 (six years ago) Permalink

and no link smh

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:36 (six years ago) Permalink

http://i.minus.com/iqAkwkwXNI9Pb.png

caek, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:36 (six years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/#!/BenjaminBrooks/status/164029312759111681

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:37 (six years ago) Permalink

all is forgiven

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:37 (six years ago) Permalink

Can understand why this guy hates Google so much if he keeps checking Analytics to find people like us laughing at him.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:38 (six years ago) Permalink

tbf this is prob the first time anyone has bothered to lol @ him

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Thought he was a leading member of the Point & Lol Network?

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:40 (six years ago) Permalink

idk!

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:42 (six years ago) Permalink

he has a small time vibe to him

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:42 (six years ago) Permalink

2500 twitter followers ehhh

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:43 (six years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/#!/DLin71/status/164040994055127041

markers, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:44 (six years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/#!/hrbrt/status/164029785444597761

markers, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:44 (six years ago) Permalink

ha!

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:45 (six years ago) Permalink

im now referring to his orthodontix

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:46 (six years ago) Permalink

a blog, really? etc

stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:47 (six years ago) Permalink

i bet he has purple rubber bands to match his suspenders

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:47 (six years ago) Permalink

dear blogg bro wut is twtr ty in advance

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:47 (six years ago) Permalink

i checked our analytics; someone said we had a "cobbled-together appearance".

win3.11 4lyfe, hater.

stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:49 (six years ago) Permalink

damn what an unchill criticism

markers, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:50 (six years ago) Permalink

the god gruber would never stoop to our level, this brooks guy needs to heed lessons

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:50 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't even understand who or what this thread is about tbh

you win, mr brooks, whatever you are

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:51 (six years ago) Permalink

^THATS how its done

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:52 (six years ago) Permalink

hey ben brooks if 'Readability is of utmost importance' what the heck is going on here:

http://i.imgur.com/A6bLV.png

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:52 (six years ago) Permalink

this thread is about elegance

stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:52 (six years ago) Permalink

I only found his twitter post randomly on Stellar.io. Dude is stuck in 2011.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:52 (six years ago) Permalink

would dearly love to read criticsm of ilx by internet tech bods tho

xps or elegance, w/e

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:52 (six years ago) Permalink

this thread is about elegance

― stet, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:52 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

5000%

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:53 (six years ago) Permalink

how is this different from hoos' "thread of social media assholes"? bullet points plz

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:55 (six years ago) Permalink

~yardsticks furiously~

caek, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:55 (six years ago) Permalink

  • Nice to see some other major western democracy have an unusual election for once. Congratulations to the Tories.

caek, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:56 (six years ago) Permalink

* 1. - it's more focused on a particular subspecies of social media assholes

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:56 (six years ago) Permalink

These are social media assholes we read & trust.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:57 (six years ago) Permalink

its abt the don 'daring fireball' gruber and his point n click posse

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:57 (six years ago) Permalink

are you in stellar, JM? I had the idea to make sthing like that, so pretty glad Kottke did it and I can go back to not bothering

xp does Hoos's thread have Helvetica?

stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:57 (six years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net
http://readandtrust.com

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:58 (six years ago) Permalink

its abt elegance basically

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:58 (six years ago) Permalink

and helvetica, the most elegant of fonts

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:58 (six years ago) Permalink

a yardstick

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:58 (six years ago) Permalink

a beacon

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:58 (six years ago) Permalink

* I have a serious question. Why spell it fanboi? Is that like fanboy but also gay?

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:58 (six years ago) Permalink

its abt a lot of things

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:59 (six years ago) Permalink

i feel like gruber's fanboi post is too perfect, it has to be a troll

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:59 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIy3n2b7V9k

markers, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:01 (six years ago) Permalink

is that like skater but also 8?

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Can understand why this guy hates Google so much if he keeps checking Analytics to find people like us laughing at him.

― James Mitchell, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:38 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark

you could say... that google analytics... used in this way... is like ... a beacon

*bows head, ponders weightily*

dayo, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Stellar is great, yes. Really needs the ability to find your friends, though. I'm just following a bunch of randoms and it's worrying how often people favorite Gruber's stuff.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:31 (six years ago) Permalink

well they prob just read and then trusted him

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Can I hav an invite? Will pay in trinkets and gewgaws

stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:45 (six years ago) Permalink

jm, what are they favoriting? his tweets?

markers, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:46 (six years ago) Permalink

can you favorite a blog post? idk the internet is complicated

markers, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:46 (six years ago) Permalink

Can send an invite to the email on your user profile. Only got one left, though.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Gruber's page is here: http://stellar.io/gruber/bestof

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:26 (six years ago) Permalink

would also love stellar invite if anyone has any spare left

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Yes please, thx! I will give it back to you when I get some.

stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:28 (six years ago) Permalink

where would i find the invites if i had any on my acct?

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:28 (six years ago) Permalink

http://stellar.io/x/invite/friends ?

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:29 (six years ago) Permalink

i guess i dont have any invites

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:31 (six years ago) Permalink

You don’t see many executives trading up from CEO of one company to senior vice president of another. That Browett is from Europe is a pretty good signal that international expansion is a top priority for Apple retail.
Wish I was rich enough to fly Gruber over for a tour of PC World and Currys stores.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 05:41 (six years ago) Permalink

Gruber's work serves as a lone wolf, a standard bearer, for my own:

Writers like John Gruber and podcasters like Dan Benjamin have gone from being lone wolfs to standard bearers.
John Gruber, Dan Benjamin, Marco Arment, Horace Dediu, all of these people are setting a very high standard for this community, and it’s not just in the level of professionalism they show in their work: it’s also how much they care about what they do and take pride in it. If you read Daring Fireball, listen to Dan’s shows on 5by5, or use Instapaper, there’s no doubt they really love to do what they’re doing.
http://tightwind.net/2012/02/stephen-hacketts-interview-with-shawn-blanc/

James Mitchell, Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:36 (six years ago) Permalink

wolfs?

lukas, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Sit & Browse vs Stand & Purchase.

James Mitchell, Monday, 6 February 2012 09:12 (six years ago) Permalink

In one you have the clean minimalist designs that Apple is long famous for. Whites walls, blonde wood tables all designed to accompany and highlight the brushed aluminum iDevices for sale within.

lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 13:52 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm sitting in a chair rite now

markers, Monday, 6 February 2012 14:09 (six years ago) Permalink

markers, are the walls whites

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Monday, 6 February 2012 14:10 (six years ago) Permalink

one of the terrible things about these gruber accolytes is how it takes them 2000 words to say something that deserves, at most, two tweets.

caek, Monday, 6 February 2012 14:13 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost yes!

markers, Monday, 6 February 2012 14:13 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe microsoft just wants you to be comfortable and apple wants you to buy stuff and gtfo

markers, Monday, 6 February 2012 14:14 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe i'll bring my own chair to the apple store next time i go

markers, Monday, 6 February 2012 14:23 (six years ago) Permalink

All my trendo programmer friends are changing to standing desks, perhaps Apple is just anticipating this trend

mh, Monday, 6 February 2012 14:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Why by the laptop when you can have the surfing for free?

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Monday, 6 February 2012 14:30 (six years ago) Permalink

^ readability

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Monday, 6 February 2012 14:30 (six years ago) Permalink

brodie edited the article

markers, Monday, 6 February 2012 14:34 (six years ago) Permalink

A review from the Prog & Rock Network.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 14:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Progressive rock rose to prominence in the 1960s and 70s as a way of elevating rock music to a new level of artistic merit.

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:41 (six years ago) Permalink

Writing assignment: read all the fucking time you fucking fuck.

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:48 (six years ago) Permalink

I’ve been following the recent articles and reports on Apple and manufacturing in China. I’ve heard some ugly terms thrown about, including “slavery.” If true, it’s shocking and disappointing. But I fear that it is a mix of hyperbole, cultural differences, and yes, some worker abuses. Apple appears to be doing the right things to [...]

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:57 (six years ago) Permalink

lot of these dudes have real sticks up their asses about being "professional writers" eh

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:10 (six years ago) Permalink

its funny because they just have blogs

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:14 (six years ago) Permalink

http://vimeo.com/36051004

markers, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:30 (six years ago) Permalink

``standing here at my standing desk''

radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:37 (six years ago) Permalink

Do workers in Foxconn factories who build products for Apple, Dell, HP, and others, work long hours at tedious tasks? Yes they do. Do they work for a fraction of what a worker in the US, Japan, or even Korea would? Yes they do?

Are they being enslaved? Clearly, they are not.

welp, glad we cleared that up!

scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:07 (six years ago) Permalink

its not slavery guys, keep downloading!

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Since a grandmother at home dealt with child rearing and the household management, the workers didn’t seem stressed by the work requirements or complain.

scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:16 (six years ago) Permalink

keep downloading those iphones guys!

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:25 (six years ago) Permalink

u need to read&trust bro

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:42 (six years ago) Permalink

it is only by completing writing assignments that you can become a beacon, a yardstick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:53 (six years ago) Permalink

"disappointing" is the professional's choice of words to describe slavery

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:59 (six years ago) Permalink

what is this thread even about any more

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:59 (six years ago) Permalink

reading&trusting

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:00 (six years ago) Permalink

bullshit

markers, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:06 (six years ago) Permalink

beacons&yardsticks

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:07 (six years ago) Permalink

kubrick&stones

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:07 (six years ago) Permalink

steve&jobs

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:07 (six years ago) Permalink

fugees&funyons

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:32 (six years ago) Permalink

braces&suspenders

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:32 (six years ago) Permalink

helvetica

caek, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:54 (six years ago) Permalink

colophons!

jerk with enough manpower (shaane), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Marco & Path: not entirely sure what the difference is, except that we all read & trust @marco.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 07:03 (six years ago) Permalink

this is actually real talk:
http://www.marco.org/2012/02/04/fixing-previous-track

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 February 2012 07:05 (six years ago) Permalink

still have a lot of time for marco and his quietly unassuming proggy nerdiness

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 9 February 2012 08:36 (six years ago) Permalink

My favorite iPhone Twitter client is now available for the iPad too. I’ve been using for a few weeks and it’s just terrific. I love it.

every single time there's a big new ios app release, he makes sure to let everyone know that he's already been using it for weeks

radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:29 (six years ago) Permalink

hey guys did you know that I run a popular apple-centric blog, and that application developers find me to be a good target for promotional beta releases? now you do!

valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:31 (six years ago) Permalink

I remember being young and thinking that it'd be cool to be in a position where people would send me unreleased products to review. Then I got old and realized that beta testing other people's shit is horrible.

valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:32 (six years ago) Permalink

I love Tweetbot and iOs for the simplicity and beautifulness of the triple-tap gesture.

I wonder if Gruber is beta testing the version with quadruple-taps.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:39 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

I have two twitter apps on iPhone and I've been swapping between them with no clear fave. tweetbot 2.0 is kinda nice, though

valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:42 (six years ago) Permalink

i caved and got tweetbot when it went on sale and i like it so much more than any other one i've used, it's just like... enjoyable

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:51 (six years ago) Permalink

i just wish the interface was more elegant

stet, Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:56 (six years ago) Permalink

twittelator neue is pretty but is still a lil buggy and feature incomplete

valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:16 (six years ago) Permalink

not empathetic enough

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:17 (six years ago) Permalink

"twittelator neue"

markers, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:19 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:19 (six years ago) Permalink

can't believe you guys aren't using twilvetica!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:20 (six years ago) Permalink

nm it's not out yet

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:20 (six years ago) Permalink

speaking of fonts: http://www.marco.org/2012/01/13/helvetica-kettle

markers, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:20 (six years ago) Permalink

shows disturbing signs of self awareness

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:22 (six years ago) Permalink

How did I miss Gruber posting this on his blog?

Oh, he didn't.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Hear that noise? That’s Violet Blue backpedalling…

radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:31 (six years ago) Permalink

oh jesus

The overreacting/woman-protection racket going on from Gruber's corner, masquerading as being in-touch with feminist concerns or being somehow more sympathetic, is gross. Someone found the name of a woman at the company and he ran with it, which is... what, all women are the same and you found the name of the one woman who worked for them, no way are there two of them?

valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:41 (six years ago) Permalink

There are, after all, too many millions of different models of woman. The development team should take a leaf out of Apple's book and slim down the product line offering to perhaps only two or three designs, each to fulfill the varying functions as needed by the user. This approach could soon see a rapid change in the market, with the adoption rate of women (in my suggested wifi, 8gb and 16gb variations) bringing women to the forefront of the post-PC world.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:53 (six years ago) Permalink

on the contrary, that woman is a beacon, a yardstick for all other women

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:27 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.70decibels.com/thepenaddict/

markers, Friday, 10 February 2012 00:27 (six years ago) Permalink

defensible in concept, jus guys bein nerdy baout pens

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Friday, 10 February 2012 02:59 (six years ago) Permalink

Almost before you could stop throwing up in your mouth at the idea of Michael Arrington accusing a Times journalist of being less than noble, Arrington’s partner at CrunchFund, MG Siegler, weighed in with his own attack in which he basically said Bilton is a nice guy who was either too lazy or too busy to do a good job. From this Siegler leaps off into a long diatribe about how most tech reporting is utter bullshit written by idiots who are all in a hurry to chase page views.

So: Path comes under fire, and straight away, the paid hit men – Arrington and his sidekick, Matty the Angry Chihuahua — spring into action to smear Bilton and try to discredit him.

I’ll give them this much. They’re good at what they do. Siegler especially is a nasty little ankle-biter who has developed some level of expertise in launching ad hominem attacks. He did one on me a while back. Then he did one on Josh Topolsky at The Verge.

Now it’s Nick Bilton’s turn.

http://www.realdanlyons.com/blog/2012/02/13/hit-men-click-whores-and-paid-apologists-welcome-to-the-silicon-cesspool/

Great response here from the man who's not afraid to type the word 'bullshit':

Looks like someone woke up from his nap of the last three years and is hungry. Sadly, I don’t have much food for him. I’ll keep this as brief as possible — and I promise this will be the last thing I ever say about Dan Lyons, as he’s clearly done.

Feel free not to read. Or read Michael Arrington’s post on the matter. He takes a higher road than I’m about to. I’m just sick of Lyons’ bullshit.

http://parislemon.com/post/17587323277/bat-shit-crazy

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 05:41 (six years ago) Permalink

i have lost all ability to discern sarcasm in this thread. That wasn't a great response to me, just point-avoiding ad homs from a corrupt would-be hack.

stet, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 08:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Definitely sarcasm.

Big fan of http://mgsieglermeme.tumblr.com, though.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 08:32 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah anyone who defends siegler or arrington on this should be banned from ilx and thrown into the ocean

max, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:30 (six years ago) Permalink

But she’s not a very good writer in the pure sense of the word. Both she and Lyons rely on cutesy gimmicks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:55 (six years ago) Permalink

m.g. siegler offering a beacon, a yardstick of good tech writing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:56 (six years ago) Permalink

#1 pet peeve: people who read 'on writing well' or some other chestnut and the only thing they take away is that all. of their sentences. must. be. very. short. that's. what good. writing. is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Some WSJ claim chowder.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 13:21 (six years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/zEOaD.png

Times when it's OK to alter your site template: Christmas, Valentine's Day, the death of a multinational CEO.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:26 (six years ago) Permalink

must have ignored her in favor of the ipad 2 for the last time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:27 (six years ago) Permalink

how long did it take him to pick what shade of red to use?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:27 (six years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/02/14/fla

"This is the biggest challenge facing Apple today."

has he actually written anything longer than glib link commentary? guess he's been busy with long form claim chowder : (

caek, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:39 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah anyone who defends siegler or arrington on this anything should be banned from ilx and thrown into the ocean

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 19:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Times when it's OK to alter your site template: Christmas, Valentine's Day, the death of a multinational CEO.

― James Mitchell, Tuesday, February 14, 2012 12:26 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

...

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 20:43 (six years ago) Permalink

I, Too, Love Amy Jane

radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:48 (six years ago) Permalink

fuckin guy lovin his fuckin wife...

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:49 (six years ago) Permalink

i wonder if she checks the site everyday or maybe he had to send her a link

radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:50 (six years ago) Permalink

if she's anything like dh she's an rss/instapaper kinda lady. inbox zero. no time to type in urls

radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:51 (six years ago) Permalink

has he actually written anything longer than glib link commentary? guess he's been busy with long form claim chowder : (

Saving it all up to complain about NeXT not being given its due, it looks like!

carson dial, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 03:34 (six years ago) Permalink

His wife's twitter account is many times more entertaining than his own.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 06:17 (six years ago) Permalink

You can get fired up that way, and see my criticism here as condemning Isaacson’s book as total shit, zero stars. That would be a mistake. Steve Jobs is not literature, but it is a good book, but alas with several holes and egregious errors.
Lacking various beacons and yardsticks also.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 08:01 (six years ago) Permalink

um, that piece is probably the best thing he's written in a year or two.

caek, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 10:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Except his whole premise of "Steve Jobs thought software is more important than hardware" is completely a total shit, zero stars Jobsian-style binary view.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 10:50 (six years ago) Permalink

and "Apple is an experience company" made me boak, versus something like "Apple is a product company" which is the truth

stet, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:19 (six years ago) Permalink

like, made me think of Apple iBalloon Rides With Your Fiancee

stet, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Apple uses experiences to sell products, as any Mad Men watcher could tell you.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:23 (six years ago) Permalink

that's a diff thing from being an experience company, tho

stet, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:24 (six years ago) Permalink

"apple is an experience company" is his turgid writing style, yes.

but i am a good-faith zinger, and that was a good piece.

caek, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:31 (six years ago) Permalink

basically slocki otm

caek, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Agreed. Was def a way better demolition of the Isaacson book than Siracusa managed.

I want to put NextSTEP on my old Thinkpad now, except the guy who installed it for Jobs says it was a total nightmare http://www.nextcomputers.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2209

stet, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:33 (six years ago) Permalink

the siracusa thing was just a long, boring list of tiny errors and a couple of unsupported larger, vague arguments

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:52 (six years ago) Permalink

i recently tried installing OPENSTEP in a VM and couldn't get past the driver selection stuff ):

radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:50 (six years ago) Permalink

lol this guy has a hard time enjoying himself, lil uptight http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/02/15/ios-86

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:43 (six years ago) Permalink

As soon as Schiller told me the name, I silently cursed myself for not having predicted it. Apple is a company of patterns. iPhone 3G, followed by a same-form-factor-but-faster 3GS; iPhone 4 followed by a same-form-factor-but-faster 4S. Leopard followed by Snow Leopard; so, of course: Lion followed by Mountain Lion.
I silently cursed myself for not having the beacons and yardsticks.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 16 February 2012 14:57 (six years ago) Permalink

I wonder immediately about that “now”. I don’t press, because I find the question that immediately sprang to mind uncomfortable. And some things remain unchanged: Apple executives explain what they want to explain, and they explain nothing more.

this guy is v strange

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 February 2012 15:10 (six years ago) Permalink

I’ve been using Mountain Lion for a week, preinstalled on a MacBook Air loaned to me by Apple.

radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:20 (six years ago) Permalink

oh my god

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:24 (six years ago) Permalink

THIS is your FAVORITE FEATURE??

My favorite Mountain Lion feature, though, is one that hardly even has a visible interface. Apple is calling it “Gatekeeper”. It’s a system whereby developers can sign up for free-of-charge Apple developer IDs which they can then use to cryptographically sign their applications. If an app is found to be malware, Apple can revoke that developer’s certificate, rendering the app (along with any others from the same developer) inert on any Mac where it’s been installed. In effect, it offers all the security benefits of the App Store, except for the process of approving apps by Apple. Users have three choices which type of apps can run on Mountain Lion:

* Only those from the App Store
* Only those from the App Store or which are signed by a developer ID
* Any app, whether signed or unsigned

The default for this setting is, I say, exactly right: the one in the middle, disallowing only unsigned apps. This default setting benefits users by increasing practical security, and also benefits developers, preserving the freedom to ship whatever software they want for the Mac, with no approval process.

radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:28 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Sadly, the punning possibilities of 'mac-gruber' have only just now suggested themselves to me, when surely that meme wave was beaten into the ground by now.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:31 (six years ago) Permalink

THIS is your FAVORITE FEATURE??

loool

caek, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:09 (six years ago) Permalink

software signing is actually not a terrible idea; in fact many linux distributions have cryptographically signed packages using keys that are signed by the distributors. And groobs is on point with his hope that package-signing will make it onto iOS as the platform opens up.

All the work I do on my mac is in the terminal or a web browser anyway so new OS X features rarely mean much to me.

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:11 (six years ago) Permalink

me too. the last time i upgraded OS X for some reason other than "it came with the new computer" was 10.4.

caek, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:15 (six years ago) Permalink

And groobs is on point with his hope that package-signing will make it onto iOS as the platform opens up.

I really, really hope that transpires

Wub wub wub wubwubwubwub wub Pzzzzzzz WUBB wubwub (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 February 2012 21:57 (six years ago) Permalink

I knew the Dow was imprecise and rather arbitrary compared to something like the S&P 500, but the more I learn about the Dow the more nonsensical I realize it is.
It's a lousy yardstick for measuring all those billions of imprecisely-sized beacons.

James Mitchell, Monday, 20 February 2012 21:44 (six years ago) Permalink

find a new zing james

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:29 (six years ago) Permalink

found one

https://twitter.com/#!/totallyslutsky/status/171666559666888705

caek, Monday, 20 February 2012 22:50 (six years ago) Permalink

:D

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:54 (six years ago) Permalink

http://twitter.com/#!/jdalrymple/status/170699109177634816

markers, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 02:30 (six years ago) Permalink

http://twitter.com/#!/gruber/status/172054760323690497

markers, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 21:11 (six years ago) Permalink

o dammmn

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 21:28 (six years ago) Permalink

a signpost in life

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 21:29 (six years ago) Permalink

he linked to The Oatmeal today, pretty indefensible imo

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 22:32 (six years ago) Permalink

ppl on the internet hate everything eh

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 22:51 (six years ago) Permalink

If your interested in a deep, thoughtful take on the problems Mac developers are running into with sandboxing...

o _o⃑ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 23:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Don't even get the point of writing that other than as a beacon, a yardstick for the guy's impeccable taste.

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:26 (six years ago) Permalink

/tech-thoughts/

lukas, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:49 (six years ago) Permalink

My Thoughts About Purple Suspenders Over the Years

ಠ﹏ಠ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:01 (six years ago) Permalink

1990-Writing this post: Was I ever capable of dressing myself?

ಠ﹏ಠ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Best part about his site: the "in partnership with mediatemple" graphic. mediatemple hosts a number of tech/design sites for free, and those sites indicate that somewhere, usually in the footer. This guy is paying for their cheapest plan and still has a big old logo conspicuously displayed at the top of the page.

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:43 (six years ago) Permalink

^ actual good zinging

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:14 (six years ago) Permalink

I have to hand it to mediatemple, their sponsorship has paid off so well that the cargo cult thinks they're making the next hot site just by putting the logo on the side, even if they're still paying for that "privilege"

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:38 (six years ago) Permalink

in partnership with angelfire

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:39 (six years ago) Permalink

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzupz2luBf1qafhi5.jpg

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:58 (six years ago) Permalink

loooooool xp

caek, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Incisive, informed content curation.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 05:24 (six years ago) Permalink

http://twitter.com/#!/daringfireball/status/180424385470021632

markers, Thursday, 15 March 2012 22:49 (six years ago) Permalink

i like how he arbitrarily decides to refer to the new ipad as iPad (3)

faces of geth (diamonddave85), Friday, 16 March 2012 00:31 (six years ago) Permalink

ya that's awful

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 03:05 (six years ago) Permalink

Why would he not call it "the 2012 iPad"

Why I ask you

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:29 (six years ago) Permalink

(3)

faces of geth (diamonddave85), Friday, 16 March 2012 14:57 (six years ago) Permalink

srsly that shit has to stop. he doesn't call it the MacBook Air (3) or the iMac (14), does he? ffs. I bet he'd drive a Porsche 911, but he wouldn't call it a 911 (7), either.

stet, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Porsche 911 (Never Forget)

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Get the feeling he'll be eating some serious Mike Daizey claim chowder after this weekend's This American Life.

James Mitchell, Friday, 16 March 2012 23:00 (six years ago) Permalink

we all will be, james. we all will be.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 23:17 (six years ago) Permalink

I guess the iPad (3) is made on a production line of robots and not hand-assembled by poorly-paid Chinese slaves, right?

James Mitchell, Friday, 16 March 2012 23:27 (six years ago) Permalink

i guess all chinese workers are 'slaves,' right?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 23:35 (six years ago) Permalink

john gruber is awful, i mean really just terrible, worse than paedophiles, but i feel like maybe james overdoes it a bit

caek, Friday, 16 March 2012 23:55 (six years ago) Permalink

all im saying.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 23:56 (six years ago) Permalink

what did br00ks do to his favicon

markers, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:07 (six years ago) Permalink

i have hacker news in google reader and the shade of orange they use is fine but whatever shade he picked doesn't look so great

markers, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:08 (six years ago) Permalink

what in the hell is wrong with you?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:08 (six years ago) Permalink

probably should be asking yourself that question

markers, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:11 (six years ago) Permalink

this american life mike daisey retraction transcript, p interesting, warning PDF http://podcast.thisamericanlife.org/special/TAL_460_Retraction_Transcript.pdf

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:14 (six years ago) Permalink

is there a transcript of the original show

flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:18 (six years ago) Permalink

the original show is just excerpts from his stage show and apparently you can download the script of that from his website

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Love how all the Read & Trust bloggers are now flying over to China to investigate Foxconn for themselves.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:27 (six years ago) Permalink

wanted to say something re the tendency to criticize chinese factories as sweatshops, in that its not an accurate characterization of foxconn et al, which is not to say theyre great places to work, just that theyre un great places to work in somewhat different ways than a sweatshop, i found this description from mo tkaciks steve jobs piece compelling

When imagination is off the table, you get coverage like CNN’s Foxconn series, in which CNN interviews a disgruntled Foxconn employee complaining of “dehumanization” and, lacking anything terribly sensational or sordid, asks her if she might be able to quantify that. We learn that the job entails sticking more than 4,000 stickers onto iPads each day.

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/02/22/the-book-of-steve-jobs-apple

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:31 (six years ago) Permalink

kind of amazing this is a guy who makes his living via public speaking and has no idea how poorly hes coming off

Mike Daisey: Yes. And I stand by it as a theatrical work. I stand by how it makes
people see and care about the situation that’s happening there. I stand by it in the
theater. And I regret, deeply, that it was put into this context on your show.

Ira Glass: Are you going to change the way that you label this in the theater, so
that the audience in the theater knows that this isn’t strictly speaking a work of
truth but in fact what they’re seeing really is a work of fiction that has some true
elements in it.

Mike Daisey: Well, I don’t know that I would say in a theatrical context that it
isn’t true. I believe that when I perform it in a theatrical context in the theater that
when people hear the story in those terms that we have different languages for
what the truth means.

Ira Glass: I understand that you believe that but I think you’re kidding yourself in
the way that normal people who go to see a person talk – people take it as a literal
truth. I thought that the story was literally true seeing it in the theater. Brian,
who’s seen other shows of yours, thought all of them were true. I saw your
nuclear show, I thought that was completely true. I thought it was true because
you were on stage saying ‘this happened to me.’ I took you at your word.

Mike Daisey: I think you can trust my word in the context of the theater. And how
people see it -

and these are the things he said after ira grilled him once he had a chance to think abt it then asked to come back again!

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:43 (six years ago) Permalink

third part is p cool where they tell you what they do know abt apple chinese manufactring irl

Ira Glass: One of the most interesting things and one of the newest things, that I
think you pointed out in this series, is that the cost of labor in an iPhone, if it were
made in the United States, would be only about $65 more per phone. I mean
that’s a lot of money if you’re manufacturing stuff, um, but with iPhones selling
with hundreds of dollars of profit in each phone, Apple could still make a profit if 24
it were manufacturing in the U.S., and you have an entire article where you lay
out that is not actually the main reason these are made overseas at this point.

Charles Duhigg: That's exactly right. And, and that $65, that's the high-end
estimate. Some people told us that you could, from a labor perspective you could
build the iPhone in the United States for just ten extra dollars a phone if you're
paying American wages. But wages, labor is such an enormously small part of
any electronic device, right?
Compared to the cost of buying chips or making sure that you have a plant that
can turn out thousands of these things a day or being able to get strengthened
glass cut exactly right within, you know, two days of this thing being due, that's
what's important. Labor is almost insignificant. What is really important are
supply chains and flexibility of factories. You want to be able to be located right
next to the plant that makes the screws so that when you need a small change to
that screw factory, you can go next door and say, "Give it to me in six hours," and
they can say, "Here you go." Because if that factory was in another state or on
another continent, it would take two weeks. It’s the flexibility within the Chinese
manufacturing system, that’s what you can do in Asia that you can’t do in the
United States.

Ira Glass: There's, there's a bunch of incredible stories you tell in that article, and
one of them is you talk about the number of industrial engineers needed to
oversee 200,000 assembly line, line workers. You say there's 8,700 industrial
engineers that you need. And so to get this plant going, to get this particular
operation going that you were writing about—I can't remember which one it is—
you said it would take nine months to find those 8,700 industrial engineers in the
United States, and in China, how long it took?

Charles Duhigg: 15 days. And that 15 day figure? The guy who told me that,
also told that that’s because they kind of drug their heels on it a little bit. They
probably could’ve done it faster.

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:54 (six years ago) Permalink

yah it's not just labor it's the whole supply chain charles dugong wrote a nyt article about it you should check it out

flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:57 (six years ago) Permalink

yah he recommends it at the end of the show too

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:58 (six years ago) Permalink

the story was always pretty unbelievable in that he'd get that much information about that many experiences from that many ppl (especially the dissidents and organizers and whatever) just by essentially hanging around a factory gate.

s.clover, Saturday, 17 March 2012 01:10 (six years ago) Permalink

this is pretty hilarious: "Cathy says she’s never seen a gun in person, only in the movies and on tv, so she’d
remember it."

s.clover, Saturday, 17 March 2012 01:15 (six years ago) Permalink

ha yeah that was an excellent america shaming moment

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 March 2012 01:22 (six years ago) Permalink

his mike daisey scoodenfroody is gross

byan wein (cozen), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:42 (six years ago) Permalink

don't want to get all james mitchell, but gruber really is going in hard on this foxconn/daisey story now that he can talk about journalism, having basically ignored it for the past three months.

caek, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 09:14 (six years ago) Permalink

i bet the daring fireball style guide says don't lie (and capitalize "Internet")

caek, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 09:14 (six years ago) Permalink

still waiting for him to explain how Apple can buy the company from the shareholders using their own money

stet, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 09:41 (six years ago) Permalink

lool

caek, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 10:39 (six years ago) Permalink

still waiting for him to explain how Apple can buy the company from the shareholders using their own money

Seriously?

dandydonweiner, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:31 (six years ago) Permalink

That is a pretty normal thing! Are you wondering how they kept issuing stock to employees as bonuses?

Undiluting Apple stock is pretty hilarious at this point, though

mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Eh? No, wait, i'm not saying they can't do stock buybacks -- what they can't do is take the company private (eg a mgment buyout) using that money. Board members can't use the company's money to buy it from itself.

stet, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:17 (six years ago) Permalink

I thought what they are planning is a buyback?

mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:20 (six years ago) Permalink

you obviously don't read daring fireball

caek, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Apple can’t control its stock price; that’s in the hands of investors. But it can control how much cash it keeps in reserve. If investors sour (or the market crashes) and the stock price dips, Apple could take itself private. I’m very intrigued about what they’re going to announce tomorrow.

caek, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:20 (six years ago) Permalink

I mean, I get what you're saying -- buy back stock with the company's money, then give that stock to executives -- but I think what their strategy is tends to be more in the way of compensating executives or giving them stock incentives if they stick around, tying their monetary interest in the company to long-term goals rather than striving for bonuses at the end of the year and then bailing for another job.

mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:21 (six years ago) Permalink

oh jesus he really said that, I take all back, he's a moron

mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:22 (six years ago) Permalink

ha

caek, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:22 (six years ago) Permalink

There are many good reasons for Apple making this move, but the likelihood of it ever going private is less than zero.

dandydonweiner, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:31 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't get how dude can post stuff like that! I mean, it's one thing to betray a complete lack of financial knowledge, but if you talk that through out loud it doesn't even make any sense.

mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:33 (six years ago) Permalink

he should go back to writing about what he knows best: mac os x 10.2-10.3 and perl

caek, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:37 (six years ago) Permalink

I kind of have doubts about dude's perl chops tbh

Have we addressed the controversy about the meltdown that happened when people confronted him about the fact he was refusing to allow changes to markdown, including bugfixes people submitted a year prior, and wouldn't give up control?

mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:41 (six years ago) Permalink

that was hilar. he wanted to keep it elegant, and keep focus by saying "no" to everything.

stet, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:44 (six years ago) Permalink

He was good at demonstrating his savvy understanding of the programming and web communities.

mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:45 (six years ago) Permalink

like the time he launched the effort to build a new Mail client? It was called Letters or something and was like the king of vaporware

stet, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:49 (six years ago) Permalink

omg I don't remember that, but I bet it is amazing

mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:49 (six years ago) Permalink

The e-mail client will be called Letters, and project contributors voted Daring Fireball's John Gruber as the man to be responsible for getting version 1.0 out the door.

mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:55 (six years ago) Permalink

that stuff about him being the director

caek, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:55 (six years ago) Permalink

oh man

caek, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:55 (six years ago) Permalink

The whole $500 thing is kind of funny in view of the Mac App Store, too. What would that be today -- a $80 app like Aperture?

Meanwhile, Sparrow for iPhone launched and the reviews included "TOO COSTLY FOR A PROGRAM THAT DOESN'T HAVE PUSH" and it's friggin $3

mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Sparrow would be great but no push is deal breaker. And sorry, working with Boxcar just isn't the same. Urban Airship would be a better integration.

Gruber has a lot of good posts, but he gets prickly very easily.

dandydonweiner, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:24 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that wasn't the real issue there... people weren't saying "oh, I need this one feature, I will avoid it due to that"

It was "NOT WORTH $3" when it has a shitload of features!

mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:27 (six years ago) Permalink

I think what people are saying is that that $3 for an app that is missing an essential feature is too costly.

dandydonweiner, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:29 (six years ago) Permalink

And FWIW, if Sparrow was made by Google for Android, Gruber would be shelling that corpse with glee for not having push.

dandydonweiner, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:29 (six years ago) Permalink

(I'm too lazy to go find his post on the release of the standalone Gmail app)

dandydonweiner, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:30 (six years ago) Permalink

(whose push feature was fooked)

dandydonweiner, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:30 (six years ago) Permalink

eh, fair enough.

The entertaining bit is that if you set up a gmail account on an iPhone, it doesn't use gmail's exchange/push server by default so the app currently works with gmail the same way Apple's mail client does, by default. /Gruber

mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I always wonder if that is Apple's middle finger at Google somehow.

dandydonweiner, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:49 (six years ago) Permalink

eh, I think it's more the fact that Google still doesn't show it in their setup directions that clearly! You only get the directions on the mobile site, and there under "Google Sync," not under email setup. I think it's officially supported and non-beta, but maybe that's not what they tell Apple?

mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Imagine how frustrating this situation must be for monologists who do value the truth, who are performing true journalism.

err is journalism + stage performance a thing?

grimes - (the elder scrolls iv:) oblivion (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:20 (six years ago) Permalink

fox news, only they're about as truthy as mike daisey

mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:34 (six years ago) Permalink

imagine how frustrating it must be for fox news

grimes - (the elder scrolls iv:) oblivion (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:08 (six years ago) Permalink

right, it's frustrating for fox news like it is mike daisy.

Same package of entertainment.

dandydonweiner, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:13 (six years ago) Permalink

*points to twitter*

markers, Sunday, 1 April 2012 21:37 (six years ago) Permalink

SUNDAY CRAZINESS

markers, Sunday, 1 April 2012 21:37 (six years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/03/30/readability

markers, Sunday, 1 April 2012 21:39 (six years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/UiU5y.png

diamonddave85, Sunday, 1 April 2012 21:52 (six years ago) Permalink

cf. this link to an article about human beings being abused

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/03/29/fla-foxconn

vs. this lengthy article about journalism

http://daringfireball.net/2012/03/baby_from_the_bath_water

i guess it's to be expected from a guy with a colophon and a house style, and maybe he honestly doesn't have much to add, but the dude is sleeping on the major apple story of a generations. i mean this post has more commentary than his post about the abc story:

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/03/29/bezos

caek, Sunday, 1 April 2012 21:58 (six years ago) Permalink

fwiw I only use Readability when a page is so choked with ads and carousels and other dumb shit that it's actually impossible to read

TURPS-DEFCON1.jpg (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:22 (six years ago) Permalink

i use readability a lot when a page is laid out in such a way that its hard to read, p sweet setup, dont use the whole read later aspect tho, i just keep a lot of tabs open

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:25 (six years ago) Permalink

btw i will now admit that i find it kinda entertaining how gruber gets legitimately outraged and calls people names

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:27 (six years ago) Permalink

oh and in Reeder when the source refuses to provide the full article via rss xxp

TURPS-DEFCON1.jpg (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:28 (six years ago) Permalink

btw gruber must acknowledge that when apple built readability support into safari they became scumbags by extension

TURPS-DEFCON1.jpg (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Readability is awesome and has almost supplanted my use of Instapaper. The linking thing, eh, probably a misstep. The whole "they are taking money given in publishers' names" is completely bullshit afaik because they take money, and offer publishers the opportunity to have some of that money, but they don't say "this money is definitely going to the publishers."

Lots of self-righteous anger going on, imo.

mh, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:40 (six years ago) Permalink

how do u ppl use readability?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:41 (six years ago) Permalink

On longer-form articles I run across either while browsing twitter or just the web or ilx or whatever I'll add them to Readability, then sit at home after work and read the articles while I'm eating lunch or having a beer after work on my iPhone or iPad.

mh, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:43 (six years ago) Permalink

i push the back quote button and it magically reformats a website

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:44 (six years ago) Permalink

all you posters sleeping on my post about the major "indefensible: john gruber" story of a generations

caek, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:46 (six years ago) Permalink

it was a good post

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:47 (six years ago) Permalink

"Badass."

caek, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:48 (six years ago) Permalink

"Filed for future claim chowder."

caek, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:48 (six years ago) Permalink

"Agreed."

caek, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:49 (six years ago) Permalink

"Hilarious."

caek, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:49 (six years ago) Permalink

caek, did you read the transcript of the interview with the FLA president linked from the ABC news article? It kind of twists the light the report is read in, for me, in that he paints the factory in an average-to-positive light for China and there are a number of issues with worker perception where management hasn't communicated either the right regulatory materials or detailed the safety mechanisms already in place.

I think Gruber's dropping it because he's a lazy ass and doesn't really want to contrast how factories operate in multiple countries. Most people don't, but as a beacon he's kind of dropping the ball, sure.

mh, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:53 (six years ago) Permalink

and here I thought that dude looked like a mid-80s stereotype of a "professional" in his picture, it turns out he thinks he's in Ferris Bueller

mh, Monday, 9 April 2012 23:04 (six years ago) Permalink

what is with these people and describing themselves as 'raconteurs'?:

http://i.imgur.com/FKqUv.png

diamonddave85, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 14:40 (six years ago) Permalink

if you took the bio lines and the twitter descriptions of these dudes you're going to find a lot of interesting words like that

to my shame I think I have a social network profile somewhere that probably still says "flâneur." urgh

mh, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 14:49 (six years ago) Permalink

u can tell by his bio line what a great storyteller he is

lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 14:50 (six years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

The Yankees have numerous rivals. The Red Sox (division). The Mets (cross-town). The Dodgers (11 World Series matchups). But these Yankees — this particular squad — have a bigger rival. Father Time.

Father Time??? r u srs

Time’s effects, even against Rivera — the most graceful and elegant ballplayer I’ve ever seen, the closest thing in sports to an ageless wonder — are ignominious. The Yankees often win, but in the end, time always wins — the one opponent against which even the Yankees will forever be underdogs. To struggle against time is to struggle against the inevitable. We all know you can’t beat time, but the joy of these aging Yankees is that sometimes you can get lucky and race ahead of it for a while. But now this.

What the fuck, what is the point of this, why not just post that insipid poem about the One Great Scorer

raw feel vegan (silby), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:23 (six years ago) Permalink

~time always wins ~ thinks abt it

lag∞n, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:42 (six years ago) Permalink

Boom, done.

diamonddave85, Friday, 4 May 2012 22:08 (six years ago) Permalink

"terrific"

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/05/15/joe-smith-paper-towel

caek, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:04 (six years ago) Permalink

lmao after seeing that i was going to start a thread about TED talks that treat you like a fucking child

diamonddave85, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:05 (six years ago) Permalink

see also: How To Tie Your Shoes

diamonddave85, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:05 (six years ago) Permalink

95% of ted stuff is such glib stupid bullshit, but this is like that lifehacker article about "how to hack your mashed potato for one recipe so that it feeds two people"

caek, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:07 (six years ago) Permalink

confession: i was charmed by paper towel dude

stet, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:19 (six years ago) Permalink

if everybody didn't get gas on 05/18/12 think of how big a message we'd send to those oil companies

dayo, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:19 (six years ago) Permalink

TED is crossing the territory into vince shlomo shamwow territory

dayo, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:20 (six years ago) Permalink

you followin me camera guy *dries hands with only one paper towel sheet*

dayo, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:22 (six years ago) Permalink

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3993649

markers, Friday, 18 May 2012 21:26 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't get it. what is this guy's shtick? he's like the internet-era's garrison keillor?

Mordy, Friday, 18 May 2012 21:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Combined with John Dvorak of PC Magazine

mh, Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:34 (six years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/05/25/the-talk-show-002 can someone break down this podcast brouhaha for me?

caek, Friday, 25 May 2012 19:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Web standards are important, and Daring Fireball adheres to them. Specifically, Daring Fireball’s HTML markup should validate as either HTML 5 or XHTML 4.01 Transitional

there is no such thing as XHTML 4.01 Transitional

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:37 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

"Holy crap," I mutter, as he gently taps my area (silby), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:38 (six years ago) Permalink

http://brooksreview.net/2012/05/amazon-nerf/

markers, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 15:52 (six years ago) Permalink

...

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:40 (six years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

http://www.kungfugrippe.com/post/25100349521/melange

markers, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:13 (six years ago) Permalink

i can name six of eight

markers, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:14 (six years ago) Permalink

3

stet, Thursday, 14 June 2012 23:57 (six years ago) Permalink

0

Mordy, Friday, 15 June 2012 00:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Great Cthulhu, I can name four.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 15 June 2012 00:13 (six years ago) Permalink

I only spotted Groobs, o well

"Holy crap," I mutter, as he gently taps my area (silby), Friday, 15 June 2012 00:21 (six years ago) Permalink

what kind of things would i have had to be interested in to know who these people are?

Mordy, Friday, 15 June 2012 00:35 (six years ago) Permalink

yardsticks

caek, Friday, 15 June 2012 00:36 (six years ago) Permalink

oh, they're famous yardstick moguls

Mordy, Friday, 15 June 2012 00:40 (six years ago) Permalink

you guys always forget the beacons

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:06 (six years ago) Permalink

hay guys YARDSTICKS and MUSTACHES and BEACONS right hahahahahahahah

brony ver (s1ocki), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:09 (six years ago) Permalink

notoumas but I still don't get who these ppl are

Mordy, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:31 (six years ago) Permalink

people who write blogs about products mostly I assume

"Holy crap," I mutter, as he gently taps my area (silby), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:34 (six years ago) Permalink

get em, john!

shaane, Monday, 18 June 2012 16:38 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

markers, Monday, 18 June 2012 16:40 (six years ago) Permalink

haha. those apple-community-supporting assholes!

brony ver (s1ocki), Monday, 18 June 2012 17:13 (six years ago) Permalink

man this ipad memo stuff is wearing thin. Even that link he posted, the guy finished the book on a Mac. Yes you can do bits of creation of the iPad. But Macs are way better at most of it. And that should be OK. iBooks: on iPad. iBooks Author: on Mac.

stet, Thursday, 21 June 2012 07:56 (six years ago) Permalink

i guess you didnt get the memo

deadcandace (diamonddave85), Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:17 (six years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/06/20/ellison-island or like feed the hungry idk

lag∞n, Monday, 25 June 2012 00:56 (six years ago) Permalink

there's a reason that fucking tightarse is the sixth richest person in the world

undermikey: bidness (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 25 June 2012 02:06 (six years ago) Permalink

fucking tumblr, no i don't want this guy's wisdom on my dashboard

goole, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 19:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Ben Brooks puts up a paywall LOL

diamonddave85, Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:36 (six years ago) Permalink

damn howm i gonna get my ben brooks fix now

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:41 (six years ago) Permalink

Man that was a lot of words to get across "I think I am worth literally twice as much per year than even John Gruber ever thought he was worth for his RSS feed"

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Thursday, 12 July 2012 03:36 (six years ago) Permalink

NB Gruber now easily makes six figures across his various channels, seems to have no qualms about it.

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Thursday, 12 July 2012 03:37 (six years ago) Permalink

would be weird if he had qualms about it

funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, 12 July 2012 04:13 (six years ago) Permalink

I’ve long suspected that Mayer preferred the iPhone to Android as a user. She was into Instagram while it was iPhone-only. She’s sent multiple tweets — September 2011, June of this year — using Twitter for iPhone. And her husband just tweeted that he’s switching to the iPhone from BlackBerry.I’ve long suspected that Mayer preferred the iPhone to Android as a user. She was into Instagram while it was iPhone-only. She’s sent multiple tweets — September 2011, June of this year — using Twitter for iPhone. And her husband just tweeted that he’s switching to the iPhone from BlackBerry.

kinda crepey level of detail here

diamonddave85, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 04:27 (six years ago) Permalink

lol pasted twice apparently!

diamonddave85, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 04:27 (six years ago) Permalink

grubby's review of mountain lion doesn't even mention gatekeeper (his favorite feature)

diamonddave85, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 15:29 (six years ago) Permalink

did people really wait in line to buy precious releases of os x cause

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 16:11 (six years ago) Permalink

lol precious releases

funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 16:11 (six years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/12/08/happy-10th-birthday-daring-fireball/261061/

It's a blog not just about Apple, but about excellence.

His voice can be muscular and rigorous.

But he maybe best understands excellence as it relates to blogging.

he can still better articulate what's fun and compelling about link-sharing (which he's been doing since before we deemed it curation) than anyone

Apple, Gruber's Beatrice, is engorged as a company

He hasn't written, for a long time, an engaging description of a laptop or an account of an anthropomorphized interface element.

It is a testament, still, to the power and potential of writing on the web, to the blogger as auteur

...

joe, Monday, 13 August 2012 17:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Muscular beacons and rigorous yardsticks

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Monday, 13 August 2012 17:29 (six years ago) Permalink

anyone who calls it curation is a fucking idiot

caek, Monday, 13 August 2012 19:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Daring Fireball: reblogging Jason Kottke since 2002

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Monday, 13 August 2012 19:59 (six years ago) Permalink

But now this. The 15-inch MacBook Pro With Retina display. This is a boom. A revolution in resolution.

hot slag (lukas), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 04:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Muscular beacons and rigorous yardsticks

― "Pffft" --buddha (silby), Monday, August 13, 2012 1:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 05:10 (six years ago) Permalink

That guy in the atlantic twice describes it as gray-green. Are all my monitors fucked? I see no green!

sktsh, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 11:41 (six years ago) Permalink

he compares john gruber to dante. i think we can safely say it's him, not you.

joe, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 12:29 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

sktsh, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 13:11 (six years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

https://twitter.com/joshuatopolsky/status/245199223715409920

stet, Monday, 10 September 2012 23:05 (six years ago) Permalink

Gruber is just the most middlebrow piece of shit.

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Monday, 10 September 2012 23:16 (six years ago) Permalink

i wrote him a "not angry just disappointed" email about how utterly useless he's become, but he didn't reply.

caek, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 14:00 (six years ago) Permalink

really? lol. can we see?

stet, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 14:37 (six years ago) Permalink

according to that bloomberg piece, he's making $500,000 a year off daring fireball now. shit.

joe, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 15:05 (six years ago) Permalink

kudos tbf

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 16:01 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah, it's impressive how he's managed to turn journalism's economics on its head - do nyt columnist even earn that much? - although it's pretty obvious he's a one-off for all sorts of reasons that don't have much to do with his writing.

joe, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 16:20 (six years ago) Permalink

I hope you'll accept this unsolicited criticism in the spirit that it's intended:

Linking to Gizmodo comments is like pointing at someone taking a shit on the sidewalk.[*]

It's your site, and you certainly owe me, an Adblock-running reader, nothing. But you used to do better than this.

[*] zing i think i may have started to overuse, and have certainly used before on ilx

caek, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 16:24 (six years ago) Permalink

Dear Caek,

Thank you for your thoughtful letter. I unfortunately was unable to read it due to my eyes being all clogged up with tons of money.

Yours,
Gruber

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 16:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Sent from my iPhone

stet, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 16:52 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

caek, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 16:58 (six years ago) Permalink

anyone who doesn't delete that stupid default signature moments after getting a new device is a disgusting savage

the physical impossibility of sb in the mind of someone fping (silby), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 18:17 (six years ago) Permalink

i changed my ipad's signature to all caps

SENT FROM MY IPAD.

diamonddave85, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 18:26 (six years ago) Permalink

iphone 5 review from john 'my hands are at least somewhat larger than average' gruber: http://daringfireball.net/2012/09/iphone_5

diamonddave85, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 03:51 (six years ago) Permalink

hah that jumped out at me too, at least, so coy come on tell us just how larger than average your hands are john

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 03:56 (six years ago) Permalink

All his reviews lately have a paragraph like "I didn't like this change at first, but right now I don't really mind, I'm sure the old way will seem weird in a few weeks" which just seems sadly appropriate.

the physical impossibility of sb in the mind of someone fping (silby), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 06:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Yours Truly on Charlie Rose Tonight ★
With David Pogue. No idea what we’re going to talk about.

ew

lag∞n, Friday, 21 September 2012 00:43 (six years ago) Permalink

going to start ending pronouncements with ★

* The "no hands" rule can be compared to socialist tax policies (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 21 September 2012 03:57 (six years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/09/24/postpositive-adjectives

This is more elegant, but it sounds pretentious to my ears. ★

caek, Monday, 24 September 2012 22:02 (six years ago) Permalink

so elegant

lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 22:03 (six years ago) Permalink

stunning

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Monday, 24 September 2012 22:16 (six years ago) Permalink

barthes simpson, Monday, 24 September 2012 22:16 (six years ago) Permalink

passersby with their iphones 5

barthes simpson, Monday, 24 September 2012 22:18 (six years ago) Permalink

enjoying their macbooks pro

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 24 September 2012 22:57 (six years ago) Permalink

"I miss William Safire."

the physical impossibility of sb in the mind of someone fping (silby), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 05:33 (six years ago) Permalink

good luck to the tories

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/british-prime-minister-david-cameron-letterman-373870

caek, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 12:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Sounds like a pile of horseshit from Instagram, considering that the whole reason they gave for replacing their original not-live but aesthetically superior filters with the current crop was that live filters were an important feature. If they bring back the old filters, I’ll say hip-hip-hooray. If they stick with the current meh filters and remove live previewing, I say boo-hiss.

Remember the Gotham filter?

i know being a tech pundit means you have to care a lot abt a lot of inconsequential things but Remember the Gotham filter? is killing me

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 17:58 (six years ago) Permalink

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v162/hughgr/pouring_beer_out.png

schwantz, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 18:11 (six years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Another typographic boner: the Kindle still lacks hyphenation but yet insists upon full-justified text.

indefensible

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:13 (six years ago) Permalink

he's right about the buttons

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:20 (six years ago) Permalink

And the hyphenation

stet, Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:24 (six years ago) Permalink

and the but-
tons

lag∞n, Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:26 (six years ago) Permalink

and the
differe-
nt feel
of rea-
ding o-
n Kind-
le

stet, Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:53 (six years ago) Permalink

 justify my boner

barthes simpson, Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh I mean of course any e-reader would be drastically improved by the TeX line-breaking algorithm, but on the other hand, where the fuck does "but yet" come from?

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Thursday, 11 October 2012 01:06 (six years ago) Permalink

I guess it does seem strange to force justification without hyphenation. They could have made that an option, right?

I wonder why they haven't nabbed TeX's H&Js, like you say. InDesign 1 was doing that in real-time on a 500mhz G3; there's surely enough power and time to do it during a page refresh on kindle. I must be missing something.

stet, Thursday, 11 October 2012 01:18 (six years ago) Permalink

just dont justify, so uptight, be easy kindle

lag∞n, Thursday, 11 October 2012 01:22 (six years ago) Permalink

people who prefer full justification are disgusting savages fyi

barthes simpson, Thursday, 11 October 2012 01:26 (six years ago) Permalink

tbf p much every book in the world is justified

lag∞n, Thursday, 11 October 2012 01:28 (six years ago) Permalink

was gonna say, have you never read a printed book or

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Thursday, 11 October 2012 01:28 (six years ago) Permalink

but at the same time i support fully dayos right to dream

lag∞n, Thursday, 11 October 2012 01:32 (six years ago) Permalink

thats where im a viking

barthes simpson, Thursday, 11 October 2012 01:33 (six years ago) Permalink

books are typeset by professionals. never really seen a kindle, do they do it nice or is it just all computerized?

j., Thursday, 11 October 2012 03:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Books are typeset by professionals. There are good algorithms for doing justified line-breaking with hyphenation. eReaders do not implement them because someone is lazy.

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Thursday, 11 October 2012 03:12 (six years ago) Permalink

basically the Kindle people should be reading this (pdf)

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Thursday, 11 October 2012 04:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Link doesn't work for me but I bet I'd say OTM.

Don't we have a Kindle person on here? /crosses fingers

stet, Thursday, 11 October 2012 07:12 (six years ago) Permalink

tbf p much every book in the world is justified

― lag∞n, Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

was gonna say, have you never read a printed book or

― www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

so I thought maybe I just hated only a certain type of justification but then I read the wikipedia entry and man justification sounds so !complicated, perhaps all the fonts in the world should just be monospaced

乒乓, Thursday, 11 October 2012 12:29 (six years ago) Permalink

even w/monospacing you need hyphenation.

stet, Thursday, 11 October 2012 12:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Link doesn't work for me but I bet I'd say OTM.

Don't we have a Kindle person on here? /crosses fingers

― stet, Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:12 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not any more! Joined a start-up a couple of weeks ago.

The hyphenation thing is hard, but I'm not sure, knowing how crazy-obsessed with typography Jeff B is, why the reader guys have not gotten proper hyphenation into the devices.

schwantz, Thursday, 11 October 2012 16:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Sorry for broken link above.

http://dx.doi.org/10.1002%2Fspe.4380111102

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Thursday, 11 October 2012 16:36 (six years ago) Permalink

OTM

stet, Thursday, 11 October 2012 16:39 (six years ago) Permalink

i really hope they wise up and put page-turning buttons back

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Thursday, 11 October 2012 16:43 (six years ago) Permalink

beautiful buttons that are a delight to press

stet, Thursday, 11 October 2012 16:44 (six years ago) Permalink

LOL @ knuth's paper being fully justified

Anime Mann (diamonddave85), Thursday, 11 October 2012 17:02 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't know why that is lol

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Thursday, 11 October 2012 17:53 (six years ago) Permalink

beautiful buttons that are a delight to press

― stet, Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:44 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes! want

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Thursday, 11 October 2012 18:03 (six years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

Kottke figures that Daring Fireball brings in $650,000 a year: http://kottke.org/12/11/stay-small-or-go-big

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 9 November 2012 23:26 (five years ago) Permalink

* If John Gruber manages the Daring Fireball’s Syndicated Feed Sponsorship he’ll earn $8,500 per week. If 52 sponsorships were available per year, he’d earn $442,000 per year. He’ll also receive $19 per year, per Daring Fireball member.

* Daring Fireball is a member of the Deck ad network. The Deck’s standard rate is $8,600 per ad, per month. However, a “roadblock” ad is available for $8,600 per ad, per day. Revenue is shared between Coudal Partners, Inc. and the Deck’s members.

* John Gruber is an Amazon.com associate. If he’s in Amazon’s top-tier, he receives an 8.5% commission per product shipped or downloaded. He’d also receive an additional commission for qualified categories (e.g. he’d receive an additional 4% per “electronic product” shipped).

* John Gruber is the host of The Talk Show, a podcast on Mule Radio Syndicate (a podcast network managed by Mule Design and Caleb Sexton). Each episode features two sponsors. A sponsorship costs $2,500 per episode. If 104 sponsorships were available per year, The Talk Show would earn $260,000 per year.

Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 10 November 2012 00:37 (five years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

I agree with every single word, including his idea to draw the “wealthy” line at $500,000, not $250,000.

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 22:39 (five years ago) Permalink

lol just came here to post that.

Congratulations to the Tories.

joe, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:52 (five years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/gruber/status/38517352

caek, Saturday, 1 December 2012 14:29 (five years ago) Permalink

oh gruberpaws

whinesplaining 101 (cozen), Saturday, 1 December 2012 14:30 (five years ago) Permalink

via @jwherrman

caek, Saturday, 1 December 2012 14:31 (five years ago) Permalink

of course his twitter background would be 6-month gray ;_;

乒乓, Saturday, 1 December 2012 14:31 (five years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

he linked to The Oatmeal today, pretty indefensible imo

― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:32 PM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha

caek, Friday, 4 January 2013 09:05 (five years ago) Permalink

The app I found that works best is Icon Slate, by Kodian. It costs $5 in the Mac App Store and is worth every penny.

or use free software:

$ convert icon-16.png icon-32.png favicon.ico

big fat dictionary (diamonddave85), Friday, 4 January 2013 22:17 (five years ago) Permalink

lol is he talking abt software for making favicons

lag∞n, Friday, 4 January 2013 22:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Hundreds ★
Clever new iOS puzzle game from the makers of Canabalt. I very much like the visual aesthetic.

lol the visual aesthetic of this game is terrible and the game is terrible, but on the other hand it is helvetica and not free so...

caek, Saturday, 5 January 2013 02:08 (five years ago) Permalink

it's actually an intriguing game tho, gotta admit I paid for it, I will take a $3 flyer on anything

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Saturday, 5 January 2013 04:04 (five years ago) Permalink

diamonddave85 otm tho

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Saturday, 5 January 2013 04:05 (five years ago) Permalink

it is a bad game imo, and way overpriced for the App Store. Seriously think you could sell Gruber a bit of dog dirt as long as you set it in helvetica and charged 49$ for it.

caek, Saturday, 5 January 2013 15:35 (five years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/01/08/tradeshow-tailgating

good grief this guy has appalling taste in writing

i should stop reading him

caek, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 10:56 (five years ago) Permalink

Tech journalist as a half-empty jar of mayonnaise seems somewhat on the nose, although not how the writer intended.

mh, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 14:32 (five years ago) Permalink

tech journalist as deathdr0ne's cigar box

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 17:36 (five years ago) Permalink

credit due this is a good piece http://daringfireball.net/2013/01/the_trend_against_skeuomorphism

lag∞n, Friday, 18 January 2013 22:04 (five years ago) Permalink

I know some iOS apps are definitely this way but claiming iOS is the leading edge for "flatness" is straight-up bullshit when Windows 8 exists

mh, Friday, 18 January 2013 22:28 (five years ago) Permalink

things do look real crisp on nice displays, though

mh, Friday, 18 January 2013 22:28 (five years ago) Permalink

not that i think its a particularly important point but the retina display way predates windows 8

lag∞n, Friday, 18 January 2013 22:34 (five years ago) Permalink

not sure what we're supposed to do if we eliminate all skeumorphism, besides just everything looking like flat squares, who actually wants that

zero dark (s1ocki), Friday, 18 January 2013 22:49 (five years ago) Permalink

Most UIs aren't that skeumorphic! There aren't really that many real life items with drop-down menus and shit.

Windows 8 probably a mediocre reference point here, but I feel like saying creative iOS developers own "flatness" is kind of wrong-headed.

Windows 8 prerelease 1 did come out a month before iPhone 4S, though.

mh, Friday, 18 January 2013 23:03 (five years ago) Permalink

ya I mean 'flat design' has been around forever really and its kinda an imprecise distinction, the thing I found intersting abt the piece is the observation that hi def screens allow for more sophisticated design

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 January 2013 00:01 (five years ago) Permalink

also iirc the iPhone 4 was the 1st one w retina

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 January 2013 00:05 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh, yeah

mh, Saturday, 19 January 2013 00:40 (five years ago) Permalink

His argument is basically "we can have games with helvetica that look like they're printed paper"

mh, Saturday, 19 January 2013 00:42 (five years ago) Permalink

if u can make software that looks like its printed thats a huge difference!

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 January 2013 00:46 (five years ago) Permalink

^^^ the point abt "you don't see high-gloss reflection w/drop shadows and textures in print" is a good one.

stet, Saturday, 19 January 2013 01:38 (five years ago) Permalink

gotta say tho I have decided that Ikea's corporate identity switch to Verdana was an inspired move. Futura was too far on the "aspirational" end of the scale. Verdana may be an odd choice but it's a pretty good one when you're at the store seeing it in context.

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Saturday, 19 January 2013 04:19 (five years ago) Permalink

wank wank remove bookmark from thread u grubers

mh, Saturday, 19 January 2013 06:53 (five years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

this is his worst post

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/02/15/posterous

caek, Saturday, 16 February 2013 04:03 (five years ago) Permalink

ever

caek, Saturday, 16 February 2013 04:03 (five years ago) Permalink

p.s. jh0 otm that skeuomorphism piece was good, although it reminded me of this: indefensible: john gruber

caek, Saturday, 16 February 2013 04:05 (five years ago) Permalink

the first sentence of this interview of marco on the brooks report reads like it was written by a 12 year old:

One thing that has really been on my mind lately is how publishing is changing.

☕ (diamonddave85), Monday, 25 February 2013 22:51 (five years ago) Permalink

In conclusion, publishing is in a time of great change.

my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Monday, 25 February 2013 23:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Ever since the beginning of time, man has wondered about how publishing is changing.

乒乓, Monday, 25 February 2013 23:07 (five years ago) Permalink

Another thing I thought was interesting about publishing was how it is changing.

my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Monday, 25 February 2013 23:08 (five years ago) Permalink

ha. sentence 2:

Many think it is a bit crazy that I went with a paywall, but even more crazy is that I was thinking of shutting down the site as it is and doing a periodical on the iPad instead (cooler heads prevailed).

i think it's crazy you expect people to pay for sentences written like this, yes.

caek, Monday, 25 February 2013 23:09 (five years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

http://www.muleradio.net/newdisruptors/14/

markers, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:13 (five years ago) Permalink

what

zero dark (s1ocki), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:16 (five years ago) Permalink

love that pic

diamonddave85, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:23 (five years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/04/02/finding-dory

congratulations to the tories

caek, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:11 (five years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/gruber/status/319162801564307456

markers, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:36 (five years ago) Permalink

TS: "congratulations to the tories" vs. "is that like fanboy but also gay?"

diamonddave85, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:57 (five years ago) Permalink

god

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 15:00 (five years ago) Permalink

can we try to do something so ben brooks talks about us again

markers, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 15:01 (five years ago) Permalink

haha

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 15:02 (five years ago) Permalink

i love it when that deep vein of conservatism that runs through everything he writes bubbles up

caek, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 15:07 (five years ago) Permalink

ya like when he goes off on how america doesnt need unions anymore smh

zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:04 (five years ago) Permalink

what is the deep vien of conservatism, that he likes the incredibles

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:06 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm down with the kind of conservatism that avoids sequels but that means no iphone 5s, 6 etc...

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:07 (five years ago) Permalink

i mean small c conservatism

caek, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:09 (five years ago) Permalink

http://brooksreview.net/2012/12/unions/

zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:10 (five years ago) Permalink

like i feel his extreme aesthetic conservatism is part of a more general cultural conservatism

caek, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:11 (five years ago) Permalink

jesus fucking christ

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:47 (five years ago) Permalink

p much

i dont know why i ever had that guy in my RSS reader but when i dumped him and some other gruberhead dittoheads (kept the main guy tho) i felt like my life had noticeably improved

zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:06 (five years ago) Permalink

Gruber spends way too much time calling out people who say dumb shit about apple, not enough time rumor-mongering.

my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:44 (five years ago) Permalink

i still read him all the time he is horrible but there are lots of good links on there and he even writes good stuff occasionally and i even like the claim chowder because im into predictions and its fun to see old ones

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 18:53 (five years ago) Permalink

ya thats me basically haha

zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 20:36 (five years ago) Permalink

i only read when he is linked from other places, and it's usually pretty good. who's a less horrible gruber, though, so i can read that instead?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 20:46 (five years ago) Permalink

marco

Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 20:52 (five years ago) Permalink

lol basically

zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 20:59 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah joe otm.

caek, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 21:05 (five years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/garyvee/status/324346308196450305

markers, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 02:20 (five years ago) Permalink

hahahaha

markers, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 02:20 (five years ago) Permalink

how the hell is jon gruber a verified account

乒乓, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 02:31 (five years ago) Permalink

no idea but my guess is that a lot of people at twitter know who he is

markers, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 02:36 (five years ago) Permalink

he's one of the most visible tech writers in the industry

markers, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 02:37 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah groobs is up there with any of the broadsheet guys like Pogue, Ihnatko, Mossberg.

HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 04:17 (five years ago) Permalink

i hate this world

乒乓, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 11:49 (five years ago) Permalink

gruber is occasionally douchey but I still read him.

See also: MG Siegler.

The Great Forgiver (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 11:55 (five years ago) Permalink

siegler is so much worse. particularly since he's a VC and has a vested interest in all the shit he writes about

zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 13:06 (five years ago) Permalink

MG Siegler @parislemon 4m
The stock market is a game. And if you don't realize that, you're sadly in the group being gamed.

lol is he reading this thread

sktsh, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 16:21 (five years ago) Permalink

gary vaynerchuk tweeting "i miss u" at gruber is the only worthwhile thing that ever happened on twitter

markers, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 16:44 (five years ago) Permalink

is it a blink182 refernce? this world of micro online mac celebrities seems completely divorced from the world of micro flesh mac celebrities.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 17:26 (five years ago) Permalink

it could be looked at that way, but gary certainly wasn't thinking of tom delonge

markers, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 17:28 (five years ago) Permalink

that being said, i'm going to take this opportunity on this relatively obscure thread to announce that i'm done with that as a meme/thing and won't be posting it anymore

markers, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 17:29 (five years ago) Permalink

and now that i've said it i guess it's true so there we go

markers, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 17:29 (five years ago) Permalink

i don't know who gary is, so contextually blink182 is all i have to go on. (i also don't know who gruber is either other than he seems to be linked to a lot)

have you guys come across any japanese mac magazines? they look really content-rich. I feel like there's a vast trove of good mac journalism hidden from us at kinokuniya while the english-speaking world has to settle for weird twitter people

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 17:39 (five years ago) Permalink

he's a social media dude or whatever

markers, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 17:45 (five years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net

*points to logo*

markers, Friday, 19 April 2013 18:29 (five years ago) Permalink

he's from Philly

乒乓, Friday, 19 April 2013 18:33 (five years ago) Permalink

used to work around here i think

markers, Friday, 19 April 2013 18:37 (five years ago) Permalink

i think

markers, Friday, 19 April 2013 18:37 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm sure gruber's Yankees fandom has been mentioned as part of his indefensibility itt.

fucking Telstra (silby), Friday, 19 April 2013 18:41 (five years ago) Permalink

you should google gary, lol

The Great Natterer (dandydonweiner), Friday, 19 April 2013 19:47 (five years ago) Permalink

o god grubes u sanctimonious prick get that logo off yr site

lag∞n, Saturday, 20 April 2013 03:07 (five years ago) Permalink

wonder if he had the express written permission of Major League Baseball

fucking Telstra (silby), Saturday, 20 April 2013 03:16 (five years ago) Permalink

lawsuit

markers, Saturday, 20 April 2013 03:18 (five years ago) Permalink

let's make a citizens' arrest

fucking Telstra (silby), Saturday, 20 April 2013 03:19 (five years ago) Permalink

where's gruber?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/adelcambre/8666761437/in/set-72157633287874607/lightbox/

markers, Sunday, 21 April 2013 14:21 (five years ago) Permalink

back right, looking like he could use a benadryl

caek, Sunday, 21 April 2013 14:44 (five years ago) Permalink

you found him! ok now everyone else. http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc6/276914_206566229429_1484857798_q.jpg

markers, Sunday, 21 April 2013 14:45 (five years ago) Permalink

wait, i guess you don't need to find him now that you know where he is.

markers, Sunday, 21 April 2013 14:46 (five years ago) Permalink

ha yeah sorry

caek, Sunday, 21 April 2013 14:46 (five years ago) Permalink

now find the startup ceo with an oversized t shirt, oh wait

we're up all night to eat biscuits (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 21 April 2013 14:47 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost np

markers, Sunday, 21 April 2013 15:44 (five years ago) Permalink

marco on phish

If you’ll permit a pretty rough analogy, imagine a world in which the vast majority of published fiction was in the form of 3,000-word short stories, and most people had never read anything longer. Phish is the one outlier publishing novels, and they’re pretty weird, complex novels. No effort to condense such novels into bite-sized short stories will truly capture the appeal.

diamonddave85, Monday, 22 April 2013 17:51 (five years ago) Permalink

ahahahhahaa oh sure

fucking Telstra (silby), Monday, 22 April 2013 17:53 (five years ago) Permalink

http://www.earwolf.com/show/analyze-phish/

fucking Telstra (silby), Monday, 22 April 2013 17:53 (five years ago) Permalink

marco's Intro to Phish is pretty cringeworthy too: http://www.marco.org/2011/05/26/geek-intro-to-phish

diamonddave85, Monday, 22 April 2013 17:56 (five years ago) Permalink

i enjoy gruber's writing on daring fireball because his insufferability is part of the weird charm. i have great friends i consider insufferable assholes because i enjoy the *style* with which they are insufferable.

gruber should never podcast, because then he's all insufferable and no style. the talk show since the move to mule is awful imo.

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 22 April 2013 18:23 (five years ago) Permalink

but i always thought dan was the best part of the talk show anyway.

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 22 April 2013 18:23 (five years ago) Permalink

are you saying grubes is cool cause man i got news for you, he is not cool

lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 02:44 (five years ago) Permalink

the fact that a phish fan is much, much wealthier than me will gall me to my dying day.

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 14:37 (five years ago) Permalink

haha you can't be an insufferable defender of the biggest company on earth who makes hundreds of thousands a year by linking to other people's writing and complaining about star wars and still qualify as cool, i agree

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 16:22 (five years ago) Permalink

and by the biggest company on earth i mean phish

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 16:22 (five years ago) Permalink

what a strange way to approach music.

sofatruck, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 18:34 (five years ago) Permalink

phish food makes bank dogg

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 19:02 (five years ago) Permalink

i agree that his kind-of-terrible "character" is part of the appeal kinda like marc maron

we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:04 (five years ago) Permalink

RIP Read & Trust

how will we know who to read and trust?

diamonddave85, Monday, 29 April 2013 18:31 (five years ago) Permalink

i am adrift

lag∞n, Monday, 29 April 2013 18:39 (five years ago) Permalink

imagine being the kind of person who actually paid for that shit

markers, Monday, 29 April 2013 18:41 (five years ago) Permalink

lmao @ "I still managed to push almost as much cash into the hands of fantastic writers as the large Readability effort did over the course of its run."

caek, Monday, 29 April 2013 19:25 (five years ago) Permalink

dont know who to read
dont know who to trust

we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, 29 April 2013 22:12 (five years ago) Permalink

lmao @ "I still managed to push almost as much cash into the hands of fantastic writers as the large Readability effort did over the course of its run."

― caek, Monday, April 29, 2013 7:25 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why lmao, idgi

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 29 April 2013 22:23 (five years ago) Permalink

they mailed out cheques for like 8 cents.

caek, Monday, 29 April 2013 22:33 (five years ago) Permalink

not quite gruber but basically the worst thing i've seen all year

http://www.marco.org/2013/05/03/tshirt

great wallogina (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 4 May 2013 01:01 (five years ago) Permalink

45 out of 50 already claimed what the hell

diamonddave85, Saturday, 4 May 2013 01:46 (five years ago) Permalink

wait isn't this the guy you all told me was better than gruber?

Philip Nunez, Saturday, 4 May 2013 01:49 (five years ago) Permalink

'better than gruber' isn't exactly an accomplishment

great wallogina (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 4 May 2013 01:50 (five years ago) Permalink

who is good then? Nobody? Can I become the best apple blogger by simply never having heard phish or crowdsourced a tshirt?

Philip Nunez, Saturday, 4 May 2013 01:57 (five years ago) Permalink

http://hypercritical.co/

markers, Saturday, 4 May 2013 02:07 (five years ago) Permalink

caek would agree with me if he were here right now

markers, Saturday, 4 May 2013 02:07 (five years ago) Permalink

although i like gruber and marco too

markers, Saturday, 4 May 2013 02:07 (five years ago) Permalink

i like all three of them

markers, Saturday, 4 May 2013 02:07 (five years ago) Permalink

Tha

Philip Nunez, Saturday, 4 May 2013 02:24 (five years ago) Permalink

feel so bad for anyone who buys a gruber or marco.org tshirt, god help you

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 May 2013 05:40 (five years ago) Permalink

what about https://twitter.com/hypercritical/status/330534382119034880

markers, Saturday, 4 May 2013 05:40 (five years ago) Permalink

im honestly mystified and horrified

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 May 2013 05:45 (five years ago) Permalink

nerd need to learn to respect their bodies

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 May 2013 05:45 (five years ago) Permalink

just in time for wwdc! http://teespring.com/ilx0r

diamonddave85, Saturday, 4 May 2013 06:06 (five years ago) Permalink

based on the sales estimates on the teespring dashboard, marco's tee will net him at least $385, hypercritical will get at least $2000 jesus

diamonddave85, Saturday, 4 May 2013 06:09 (five years ago) Permalink

the ilx0r tee will get me $992830, let's get this funded!

diamonddave85, Saturday, 4 May 2013 06:10 (five years ago) Permalink

bargin

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 May 2013 06:12 (five years ago) Permalink

8====D~~~

Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 4 May 2013 09:31 (five years ago) Permalink

http://www.marco.org/2013/05/03/ios7-deforestation

Since you haven’t heard enough of my voice yet this week, I also did John Gruber’s The Talk Show

brb killing myself

great wallogina (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 4 May 2013 12:51 (five years ago) Permalink

someday I will need someone to explain to me ilx's near-universal disdain for crowdfunding

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 4 May 2013 20:48 (five years ago) Permalink

I couldn't make myself listen to his drop-by on the Talk Show, but he was really good on Quit! last week.

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 4 May 2013 20:50 (five years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/SnoopDogg/status/331953815983124480

markers, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 02:16 (five years ago) Permalink

apple fanboyism is getting eh

markers, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:41 (five years ago) Permalink

I've been dreading the day when this would happen

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:48 (five years ago) Permalink

apple is getting eh to be fair

umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:49 (five years ago) Permalink

but yes

umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:49 (five years ago) Permalink

i follow a bunch of the usual supects on twitter and just

markers, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:51 (five years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/gruber

markers, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:51 (five years ago) Permalink

to his credit: https://twitter.com/marcoarment/status/334727040433537025

markers, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:51 (five years ago) Permalink

at least some non-partisan stuff

markers, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:51 (five years ago) Permalink

wow actually a lil more of that too: https://twitter.com/chockenberry/status/334733292303699968

markers, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:52 (five years ago) Permalink

but then: https://twitter.com/chockenberry/status/334733606931017729

markers, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:53 (five years ago) Permalink

goooooooogle

resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 22:23 (five years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/TOyW6fr.png

markers, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 22:31 (five years ago) Permalink

ugh

umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 22:47 (five years ago) Permalink

disgusting

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 00:54 (five years ago) Permalink

one second before his face exploded

umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 00:54 (five years ago) Permalink

indefensible: THOSE PHOTOS

umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 00:57 (five years ago) Permalink

really hoping google doesn't release 'google buttplug' at this point

umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 00:58 (five years ago) Permalink

Page joked with him: "Robert, I really didn't appreciate the shower photo." Page was, of course, referring to a picture Scoble posted of himself taking a shower with Google Glass alongside the caption "You thought I was kidding when I said I would never take them off." Well played, Page.

Yes, well played, Page.

caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:01 (five years ago) Permalink

well played

caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:01 (five years ago) Permalink

wtf is wrong with these people

caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:01 (five years ago) Permalink

truly la mot juste

caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:08 (five years ago) Permalink

imagine how much google are regretting giving this guy a pair

caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:13 (five years ago) Permalink

destroy silicon valley

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:15 (five years ago) Permalink

i am enjoying the perfectly timed return of valleywag

caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:15 (five years ago) Permalink

it's not as good as you think it is

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:15 (five years ago) Permalink

destroy silicon valley

― 乒乓, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:15 PM

sure, hand in yr iphone first

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:16 (five years ago) Permalink

and yr laptop

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:16 (five years ago) Permalink

quit twitter, facebook

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:16 (five years ago) Permalink

that scoble shower pic is the new goatse

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:17 (five years ago) Permalink

hahaha

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:17 (five years ago) Permalink

it's not as good as you think it is

― markers, Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:15 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol the kraken awakes

caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:18 (five years ago) Permalink

markers if you told me everybody had to live without computers i don't think that would be so bad tbh. hipster farmers ftw

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:18 (five years ago) Permalink

not everyone, just you and people who say shit like that

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:19 (five years ago) Permalink

destroy silicon valley

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:19 (five years ago) Permalink

cool, fashionable opinion

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:19 (five years ago) Permalink

you don't even believe that

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:20 (five years ago) Permalink

aren't you into this shit?

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:20 (five years ago) Permalink

if you think the non-reporting journalism/nepotism/credulity fest/circle jerk that orbits around y combinator, hacker news and techcrunch should not be treated with basically utter contempt then i don't know what to tell you man

caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:21 (five years ago) Permalink

i assume dy is talking about that, not technology in general

caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:21 (five years ago) Permalink

hm

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:21 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah i doubt he's after the whole thing but still

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:21 (five years ago) Permalink

i used to listen to this week in tech i know what im talking about

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:22 (five years ago) Permalink

don't get us wrong markers. i for one love your enthusiasm for this stuff, and i enjoy yr links!

caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:22 (five years ago) Permalink

people shitting on tech just gets . . . something to me. i'm legitimately interest in this shit and spend plenty of time following it and i get that it's not cool or whatever but

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:22 (five years ago) Permalink

silicon valley is def often pretty gross and frivolous (and occasionally brilliant obvs) but i feel like the appropriate response is more casual distain rather than the gonzo outrage of valleywag which is kinda really buying into the whole thing too much

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:24 (five years ago) Permalink

markers its cool but its also a lot of navel gazing

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:24 (five years ago) Permalink

don't get us wrong markers. i for one love your enthusiasm for this stuff, and i enjoy yr links!

― caek, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:22 PM

hey thank you

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:24 (five years ago) Permalink

it's not that it's not cool. i think the top tier stuff is legitimately very interesting, and sometimes even "cool". it's the hangers on, 90% of the journalists who cover this beat, and the armchair developer/typographer bloggers who are the problem.

caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:25 (five years ago) Permalink

i love technology and the internet and whatnot and think its legitimately important, but i dont think that at all contradicts the obvious observation that like techcrunch is a v stupid publication

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:26 (five years ago) Permalink

true josh.valleywag (i.e. basically just sam biddle, right?) has really gone in at the deep end, but the stench had got so bit strong over the past year or two, and no one was saying anything (except the register, which is still the best, aside from its lack of boots on the ground in CA)

caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:27 (five years ago) Permalink

lol who is "josh". joe.

caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:27 (five years ago) Permalink

a friend of mine goes to stanford and was talking abt how she cant go work at the coffee shop w out overhearing people pitch their terrible startup ideas

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:27 (five years ago) Permalink

i told her she needs to get a tumblr

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:28 (five years ago) Permalink

i dont think that at all contradicts the obvious observation that like techcrunch is a v stupid publication

i used to read it a lot more than i do now

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:28 (five years ago) Permalink

but, like, there's good stuff out there too. look at the verge. those people do wonderful shit. there's good reporting too, like some of jessica lessin's apple shit for the wsj. john siracusa's hypercritical posts abt apple. some of bloomberg businessweek's features.

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:29 (five years ago) Permalink

i mostly just have in mind treating anything mg siegler does as 'news' tbh

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:30 (five years ago) Permalink

also the weird cult that built up around jason kalikanis

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:30 (five years ago) Permalink

he's not worth paying attention to and should be ignored

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:30 (five years ago) Permalink

anyway......... destroy silicon valley

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:32 (five years ago) Permalink

ya i like the verge, the weird thing is a lot of tech news is business reporting abt these companies and theyre generally ont that interesting as businesses, like ohh booble babble raised a b round of venture capital, cwapoole was acquired by cakemix in an acuhire, who could possibly give a shit, writing abt the actual product and technology is obvs a lot harder and often ends in embarrassing situations where clowns like scoble predict google glasses are gonna change the world

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:35 (five years ago) Permalink

the pinboard guy noted in a tweet that that shower photo will likely be the most important thing scoble ever does ;_;

caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:37 (five years ago) Permalink

it is so fn gross, like im not even joking it disgusts me

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:38 (five years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/JVUuZZW.png

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:38 (five years ago) Permalink

lol 'credited'

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:39 (five years ago) Permalink

also the weird cult that built up around jason kalikanis

― 乒乓, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:30 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he's not worth paying attention to and should be ignored

― markers, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:30 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

i guess this points to a larger phenomenon of how much shelf life some of these guys, like kalikanis, scoble, people who should have stopped being relevant 10 years ago, in the fast moving world of tech

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:39 (five years ago) Permalink

there's tons of garbage out there when it comes to tech writing, but when you follow the stuff for long enough it becomes increasingly easier to know whose shit is worth following and whose isn't

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:40 (five years ago) Permalink

Time for a return of F'ed Company's dead pool

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:40 (five years ago) Permalink

like, i can tell you that the only time you need to pay attention to jim dalrymple is when he does one of his "yep" or "nope" posts

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:40 (five years ago) Permalink

because he'll end up being right 100% of the time

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:41 (five years ago) Permalink

also the navelgazing circlejerk of silicon valley is what led to people thinking that foursquare was a good idea, i mean wth, literally w t h

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:41 (five years ago) Permalink

i guess this points to a larger phenomenon of how much shelf life some of these guys, like kalikanis, scoble, people who should have stopped being relevant 10 years ago, in the fast moving world of tech

― 乒乓, Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:39 AM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah in that sense gruber's longevity (10 years?) as basically the top pundit in the game is pretty remarkable

i mean i get the feeling he's not playing to his strengths any more, but still, his impact is much more than just vestigal enormous readership

caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:42 (five years ago) Permalink

also the navelgazing circlejerk of silicon valley is what led to people thinking that foursquare was a good idea

what

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:42 (five years ago) Permalink

markers, there's annoying tech sceptics and then there's this hideous scoble guy

umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:42 (five years ago) Permalink

some social degenerate in his cubicle thinking "maybe the reason people dont hang out with me is because they never know where i am, i know, ill make an app that broadcasts my location 24/7, then the ppl will come" -> 4 square -> millions of dollars in VC funding

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:42 (five years ago) Permalink

yes that's exactly what happened

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:43 (five years ago) Permalink

also the navelgazing circlejerk of silicon valley is what led to people thinking that foursquare was a good idea

foursquare helps me so

umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:43 (five years ago) Permalink

foursquare isn't really that interesting to me

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:43 (five years ago) Permalink

what is the utility of foursquare, why does that service exist, who is the mayor of ILX

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:43 (five years ago) Permalink

true josh.valleywag (i.e. basically just sam biddle, right?) has really gone in at the deep end, but the stench had got so bit strong over the past year or two, and no one was saying anything (except the register, which is still the best, aside from its lack of boots on the ground in CA)

― caek, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:27 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ya i agree and i mostly like what valleywag is doing but maybe just ease off the gas a little --josh

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:43 (five years ago) Permalink

services similar to foursqure will def be really huge at some point, tho it prob wont be actual foursquare

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:44 (five years ago) Permalink

i guess at some point it will become socially acceptable to go somewhere because u see a bunch of people u know 'checking in' there, its fucking creepy right now tho

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:46 (five years ago) Permalink

bro theres a reason u didnt get the invite

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:46 (five years ago) Permalink

what is the utility of foursquare, why does that service exist, who is the mayor of ILX

recommendations of (and specials offered by) places that are like the ones you go to and that your friends go to, data collection, ned raggett

umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:46 (five years ago) Permalink

google appears to be pumping up its foursquareness btw

umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:47 (five years ago) Permalink

idk abt checking in but just like the intersection of location and internet of things is gonna be a big deal

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:47 (five years ago) Permalink

exactly, sometimes you have to see beyond the products to think more about capabilities of the shit that's out there. i've never used foursquare and have no interest in it and wouldn't care if it disappeared tomorrow.

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:48 (five years ago) Permalink

hey guys i saw you all on foursquare checking in here. hey wheres the drinks at. hey where are you all going. hey wait up

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:48 (five years ago) Permalink

乒乓 you know you get to choose what you check into and when, rite

umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:48 (five years ago) Permalink

i dont get why foursquare has to be 'social'

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:50 (five years ago) Permalink

rip paypal?

http://www.google.com/wallet/send-money/

caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:50 (five years ago) Permalink

wish i had foursquare when i lived above a restaurant cause then i so wouldve been the mayor of that shit forever

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:51 (five years ago) Permalink

hahaha

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:52 (five years ago) Permalink

it goes 'your friend checks in here a lot so it's probably your thing' xp to 乒乓

umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:52 (five years ago) Permalink

paypal counters by now accepting bitcoins

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:52 (five years ago) Permalink

it goes 'your friend checks in here a lot so it's probably your thing' xp to 乒乓

― umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:52 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

thats pretty obnoxious i have much better taste than my friends

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:54 (five years ago) Permalink

you can set it so it says 'your friend checks in here a lot so it's probably not your thing'

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:55 (five years ago) Permalink

aaaaaaaahhhh now i understand *installs foursquare on my iPhone 5*

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:56 (five years ago) Permalink

this is sort of random, but for example fucking livejournal was and is super easy to make fun of, but for the second half of my senior year of high school and my first year in college, it was actually a super profound service, because it let my friends and i write shit about our lives that only we'd see (via "friends only" posts), and it sort of enabled us to connect in a weird intimate way as a little group. that doesn't happen on facebook. that doesn't happen on tumblr. or at least not for me, not now. but for the time we were all on there it was something really neat, in retrospect.

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:57 (five years ago) Permalink

not that foursquare enables anything useful, but maybe it does for someone.

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:57 (five years ago) Permalink

it's not something i'm interested in using, personally

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:57 (five years ago) Permalink

livejournal was cool i had a livejournal, in fact still do

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:57 (five years ago) Permalink

lj was completely virtual tho, and anonymous (if u chose it), its the intersection of the virtual world and the real world that is gonna bring up some creepy and perhaps unexpectedly creepy situations and scenarios, a la foursquare

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:59 (five years ago) Permalink

facebook in its early days enabled some crazy shit

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:59 (five years ago) Permalink

how do i get linkedin to stop sending me emails?

caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:59 (five years ago) Permalink

im gonna tape my phone to a drone and check in all over town

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 02:00 (five years ago) Permalink

not that foursquare enables anything useful, but maybe it does for someone.

― markers, Thursday, May 16, 2013 1:57 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I did the autojournal thing, so i use foursquare disconnected from all social media mainly to note in my journal when i go somewhere interesting.

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 16 May 2013 04:41 (five years ago) Permalink

like, i can tell you that the only time you need to pay attention to jim dalrymple is when he does one of his "yep" or "nope" posts

I've never quite been able to put it into words, but I've so nearly posted so many times about how much I hate this guy. He's every bit as bad as grubes.

Those one word yeps come off as so fucking haughty. Like "I will deign to address your rumour, but you shall get naught but one word from me, for I am so very important and my word shall be the final one on the subject." Ugh.

(even more annoying b/c like markers said he's normally right, which builds even more of a weird cult of personality around this dude who is basically a lonely beard just thinking baout angus young)

sktsh, Thursday, 16 May 2013 09:08 (five years ago) Permalink

I am starting to merge all these jokers in my head into one guy w/suspenders frustrated with his suboptimal coffee experience.

The Verge is far and away the best of a terrible lot, but even then the writing isn't a patch on even Wired in its heyday.

stet, Thursday, 16 May 2013 10:13 (five years ago) Permalink

i just totally did something at a place and forgot to check in on foursquare

umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 10:25 (five years ago) Permalink

eugh

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 16 May 2013 11:47 (five years ago) Permalink

http://brooksreview.net/2013/05/fucking-dogs/

markers, Saturday, 18 May 2013 02:44 (five years ago) Permalink

tbh I also don't like dogs, but I don't blog about it on a blog people have to pay for

resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Saturday, 18 May 2013 02:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Gruber and his ilk's smug self-satisfaction and complete lack of self-awareness make me more guilty about using Apple products than basically anything else.

Also, I hope Ben Brooks gets mobbed by dogs everyday for the rest of his life.

avant-sarsgaard (litel), Saturday, 18 May 2013 08:46 (five years ago) Permalink

excited to see gruber cover the tax stuff with the diligence he covered foxconn

caek, Monday, 20 May 2013 22:23 (five years ago) Permalink

You mean "here's Apple's opening statement?"

schwantz, Monday, 20 May 2013 22:52 (five years ago) Permalink

yes, it's "an interesting read"

caek, Monday, 20 May 2013 23:19 (five years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/05/21/senate-hearing

markers, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 17:41 (five years ago) Permalink

ohhhh boy.

caek, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 18:13 (five years ago) Permalink

looooooooool

乒乓, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 18:40 (five years ago) Permalink

oh my

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:10 (five years ago) Permalink

oh jesus

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 21:53 (five years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YQXDQeKDlM

markers, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:22 (five years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/05/21/mccain

markers, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:23 (five years ago) Permalink

us republicans hating change, whodathunk

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:38 (five years ago) Permalink

McCain's joke-writers in fine form

0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:49 (five years ago) Permalink

John Siracusa ‏@siracusa 32m
No cardboard sleeve on the Ponyo blu-ray. Upsetting.

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:57 (five years ago) Permalink

0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:57 (five years ago) Permalink

literally upset that the box his optical media disc came in doesn't have an extra piece of trash on the outside

0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:58 (five years ago) Permalink

upsetting

0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:58 (five years ago) Permalink

like, I dunno, reports of moderately-sized national disasters in distant states, or finding out that someone has been talking shit about you

0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:59 (five years ago) Permalink

sorry but i don't have time for people who dislike him

markers, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:59 (five years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/marcoarment/status/336863716408705024

markers, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:59 (five years ago) Permalink

eh, I've said hyperbolic stuff on twitter too

0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:59 (five years ago) Permalink

siracusa's OS X writeups for Ars Technica obviously all classic, I just wanted to dump some mock rage on the internet

0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 01:00 (five years ago) Permalink

ya siracusa is one of the better tech writers for sure i just thought that tweet was funny

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 01:05 (five years ago) Permalink

sorry but i don't have time for people who dislike him

― markers, Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:59 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i just want to dwell for a moment on what an amazing sentence this is

*dwells* d(-_-)b

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 02:48 (five years ago) Permalink

haha omg his post is awful enough and then you read the fucking nail clipper review

sktsh, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 20:27 (five years ago) Permalink

that's three

markers, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 16:04 (five years ago) Permalink

well, if you include tumblr

markers, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 16:04 (five years ago) Permalink

lol https://twitter.com/GlennF/status/339774183653404672

markers, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 16:04 (five years ago) Permalink

can't wait for Marco's high-end speaker review detailing how awesome Phish sound on a $50k rig.

stet, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 16:11 (five years ago) Permalink

lol he is so awful

caek, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 16:17 (five years ago) Permalink

would you guys rank them: gruber, then marco, then siracusa from worst to best? are there any writers who aren't part of their immediate circle that you would rank higher?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 17:27 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't really consider Siracusa part of that armchair typographer crowd tbh.

caek, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 18:02 (five years ago) Permalink

from worst to best? the opposite tbh. siracusa, marco, grub. when gruber is on he's on imo.

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 18:03 (five years ago) Permalink

haha armchair typographer

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 18:03 (five years ago) Permalink

Siracusa >>>>>> (apart from shit Steve Jobs book review) >>> Grubes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marco >>>>> Trust & verify >>>>> Brooks

stet, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 18:22 (five years ago) Permalink

stet otm

0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 18:32 (five years ago) Permalink

when gruber is on he's on imo.

i agree with this, but he rarely is any more. he hasn't written two articles in a row that weren't embarrassingly bad or worse for like 6 years.

caek, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 19:34 (five years ago) Permalink

marco is basically valueless as a writer though, so year, stet otm.

caek, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 19:35 (five years ago) Permalink

in this post he compares tumblr dude to steve jobs... twice http://www.marco.org/2013/05/20/one-person-product nice way to simultaneously pat yrself on the back for being involved w something so important and backhandedly call yr boss a sociopath - tumblr is a nice website and all but its not exactly an iphone

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 May 2013 00:05 (five years ago) Permalink

i didn't get those same sinister messagings from that article, but i did from the one about phish.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 30 May 2013 00:23 (five years ago) Permalink

Marco's writing is worthless, and so is The Magazine. The true believers in Tumblr are the same breed who jizzed on and on about MySpace until that platform got blown out of the water. I'm sure that soon, we'll be hearing about The Next Wordpress...oh wait, isn't that supposed to be SVBTLE or something?

Stet massively OTM.

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 30 May 2013 01:51 (five years ago) Permalink

http://www.marco.org/2013/05/30/coffee-storage

A reader asked via email:

How do you store your coffee?

I get this question a lot.

oh jesus

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 30 May 2013 23:14 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the true horror comes when these guys link to something that has open comments, and then you see what their comments would be like if only they enabled them.

It's the one awesome think about their schticks that means we're spared page after page of "awesome post, you really hit the nail on the head with your writing as usual, Marco".

stet, Thursday, 30 May 2013 23:16 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the true horror comes when these guys link to something that has open comments, and then you see what their comments would be like if only they enabled them.

ha otm

caek, Thursday, 30 May 2013 23:18 (five years ago) Permalink

do you guys like jeanlouis gasees blog?

Philip Nunez, Friday, 31 May 2013 00:16 (five years ago) Permalink

i don't read it too often tbh

markers, Friday, 31 May 2013 00:16 (five years ago) Permalink

maybe i should

markers, Friday, 31 May 2013 00:16 (five years ago) Permalink

maybe that would BE a good thing

markers, Friday, 31 May 2013 00:16 (five years ago) Permalink

maybe i should write myself a NOTE for MONDAY to do so

markers, Friday, 31 May 2013 00:24 (five years ago) Permalink

does he have RSS feed? If not, he doesn't exist

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Friday, 31 May 2013 03:21 (five years ago) Permalink

He's made an app! http://www.macworld.com/article/2040883/meet-vesper-a-notes-app-with-an-all-star-development-team.html#tk.twt_jsnell

Making iOS software that doesn't sync is ... it's like making a phone where you can only call people in the same room. Or something.

stet, Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:21 (five years ago) Permalink

hmmmm just saw this

markers, Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:23 (five years ago) Permalink

"Q Branch"
"Vesper"
"mediocrely"

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:38 (five years ago) Permalink

lol @ The Incomparable in screenshiot

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 6 June 2013 17:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Am I horrible in hoping some ill befalls this?

Millsner, Thursday, 6 June 2013 17:22 (five years ago) Permalink

No, because apps die a silent death and rarely get an obit.

There's nothing worse than people who think that we can design our way out of every user problem.

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:30 (five years ago) Permalink

"yeah there are already a million apps out there who solve the note taking non-problem on apps, but there's not a UI good enough for our immaculate taste, so we had to design one ourselves. It's by us for us unless you all are willing to raise your standards."

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:32 (five years ago) Permalink

his obsession with james bond might be the dorkiest thing about him

diamonddave85, Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:49 (five years ago) Permalink

who's bought it?

markers, Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:55 (five years ago) Permalink

who would?

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:59 (five years ago) Permalink

the greatest thing about next week would be if Apple would grant a trial-basis for app downloads

most apps do not see engagement beyond 2 weeks. This would clean up the app store a lot.

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:00 (five years ago) Permalink

i haven't bought it yet but i would and might

markers, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:03 (five years ago) Permalink

not that i'd necessarily use it regularly

markers, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:03 (five years ago) Permalink

should be a 99c app

diamonddave85, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:04 (five years ago) Permalink

should be a free evaluation and if it is a solution for me, I would buy it.

this idea that we have to spend a dollar to evaluate everything is stupid

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:15 (five years ago) Permalink

i would have grubes on my app team cause now people will buy it

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:33 (five years ago) Permalink

lol definitely

wait until he links to it

markers, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:34 (five years ago) Permalink

the one guy designs it i code it and grubes he links

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:36 (five years ago) Permalink

ppl let him beta test all kinds of helvetica-heavy shit that he links to

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:45 (five years ago) Permalink

Gruber: Bond’s gadgets have always been at the intersection of utility and elegance. Serve a necessary purpose, reliably, and look good doing it. That’s as good a motto for a software company as any.

yes gruber, you are comparable to bond

fucking james bond

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:19 (five years ago) Permalink

hoping it gets a feature that lets you wedgie gruber's underpants over his head

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:20 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't understand the hate for this dude but likewise don't understand how he can be the number one apple blogger.
What do you guys think about kottke.org? He seems like he's in a similar group of commenter dudes who also make fonts on the side.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:43 (five years ago) Permalink

Gruber is sanctimonious. Kottke just likes linking to neat things and keeps the rest to himself, IME.

Millsner, Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:52 (five years ago) Permalink

marco has posted about this, and now i am really not sure who i hate more

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 June 2013 22:56 (five years ago) Permalink

http://www.marco.org/2013/06/06/vesper

in which he goes on and on about balls

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 June 2013 22:57 (five years ago) Permalink

fucking srs

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 June 2013 23:03 (five years ago) Permalink

wow that is just an unbelievable blog post right there

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 June 2013 23:03 (five years ago) Permalink

Loool at getting linked to by Marco as "resentful" for saying sync is critical when he, eh, says sync is critical. Balls.

stet, Thursday, 6 June 2013 23:33 (five years ago) Permalink

lmfaoooooo

乒乓, Thursday, 6 June 2013 23:34 (five years ago) Permalink

balls

diamonddave85, Friday, 7 June 2013 00:42 (five years ago) Permalink

@gruber 8h
Hacker News hasn’t had a single link to Daring Fireball in months, so I presume DF is blacklisted. But why Vesper?

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 7 June 2013 02:18 (five years ago) Permalink

maybe hacker news just thinks you're a nutsack

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 7 June 2013 02:19 (five years ago) Permalink

thats low

lag∞n, Friday, 7 June 2013 02:23 (five years ago) Permalink

just didnt get enuff upvotes to get to the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5833388

diamonddave85, Friday, 7 June 2013 03:17 (five years ago) Permalink

the one guy designs it i code it and grubes he links

― lag∞n, Thursday, June 6, 2013 7:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

amazing post, so vaudeville

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 7 June 2013 05:03 (five years ago) Permalink

Fuckin helveticunts

sktsh, Friday, 7 June 2013 09:07 (five years ago) Permalink

Dr Drang otm http://www.leancrew.com/all-this/2013/06/form-and-function/

stet, Friday, 7 June 2013 12:10 (five years ago) Permalink

flat design

imo this should basically be the free square in your game of 2013 ux-dude buzzword bingo

scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 7 June 2013 19:34 (five years ago) Permalink

it's pretty debatable whether or not "export" is a "power user feature"

markers, Friday, 7 June 2013 19:46 (five years ago) Permalink

Vesper’s current lack of sync, export, etc. isn’t an oversight; it’s an intentional omission at this time.

hah no matter how hard any of them try they just cant bring themselves to justify it

lag∞n, Friday, 7 June 2013 19:54 (five years ago) Permalink

how is "iPad" a "power user feature"

markers, Friday, 7 June 2013 19:57 (five years ago) Permalink

it's another fucking hardware platform

markers, Friday, 7 June 2013 19:57 (five years ago) Permalink

balls, balls

lag∞n, Friday, 7 June 2013 19:57 (five years ago) Permalink

HOW CAN YOU SHIP THE PLAYBOOK WITHOUT AN EMAIL APP

markers, Friday, 7 June 2013 20:00 (five years ago) Permalink

balls balls balls

lag∞n, Friday, 7 June 2013 20:01 (five years ago) Permalink

http://www.marco.org/2012/01/22/rim-ceos-stepping-down

markers, Friday, 7 June 2013 20:02 (five years ago) Permalink

nailed it

diamonddave85, Friday, 7 June 2013 20:05 (five years ago) Permalink

this has nothing to do with apple but click on it

http://video.pandodaily.com/2fm

markers, Friday, 7 June 2013 20:58 (five years ago) Permalink

"One thing that has really been on my mind lately is the future of media." – Ben Brooks

diamonddave85, Friday, 7 June 2013 21:10 (five years ago) Permalink

http://brooksreview.net/2013/05/fucking-dogs/

markers, Friday, 7 June 2013 21:11 (five years ago) Permalink

What an asshole

waterface, Friday, 7 June 2013 21:12 (five years ago) Permalink

ban these words: media, content

lag∞n, Friday, 7 June 2013 21:14 (five years ago) Permalink

sam biddle was going off on this earlier https://twitter.com/samfbiddle

markers, Friday, 7 June 2013 21:21 (five years ago) Permalink

I am in no way suggesting that summoning Cthulhu to rise out of San Francisco Bay and massacre all of Silicon Valley would be a good thing, but I wouldn't do anything to stop it either.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 7 June 2013 21:39 (five years ago) Permalink

We have a different name because we make a different sandwich. A true Philly hoagie is so much better than a “sub”, it’s not even funny. We’re famous for the cheesesteak, but the Philly hoagie is just as great. (Sarcone’s is the best; Primo’s are excellent too.)

i hate this guy.

Clay, Saturday, 8 June 2013 00:15 (five years ago) Permalink

He quoted all of marco's "balls" post

stet, Saturday, 8 June 2013 00:22 (five years ago) Permalink

have we mentioned that he calls himself the "director" of the app?

we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Sunday, 9 June 2013 17:49 (five years ago) Permalink

So basically Grubes acted like a demanding, irascible client with very specific requirements about the design. Wonder if he paid them their hourly rate during development or if everyone was just in it for equity.

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Sunday, 9 June 2013 17:56 (five years ago) Permalink

taking six months to dev this thing absolutely suggests that an asshole director demanding meaningless iterations. Clients like Gruber are fucking horrible.

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Sunday, 9 June 2013 19:03 (five years ago) Permalink

Clients people

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Sunday, 9 June 2013 19:07 (five years ago) Permalink

We have a different name because we make a different sandwich. A true Philly hoagie is so much better than a “sub”, it’s not even funny. We’re famous for the cheesesteak, but the Philly hoagie is just as great. (Sarcone’s is the best; Primo’s are excellent too.)

as someone from philly, NAH

乒乓, Sunday, 9 June 2013 19:29 (five years ago) Permalink

the pizza in new york is so much better which is why they dont even call it pizza there they call it a different name like how always they change the name for the best stuff cause its better different

lag∞n, Sunday, 9 June 2013 19:34 (five years ago) Permalink

was kinda sad that th olde timey boston names of grinder and tonic for sub and soda didnt even make a blip on those maps rip

lag∞n, Sunday, 9 June 2013 19:35 (five years ago) Permalink

If you pretend to yourself that Arment hates those dudes' guts, his post about Vesper still makes sense

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 June 2013 11:22 (five years ago) Permalink

so has anyone actually tried it?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 10 June 2013 11:37 (five years ago) Permalink

and pay five bucks for a notes app that doesn't sync with anything? no

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 10 June 2013 11:40 (five years ago) Permalink

but but it's so elegant

stet, Monday, 10 June 2013 11:57 (five years ago) Permalink

balls

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 10 June 2013 12:16 (five years ago) Permalink

i think marco actually did this better by taking a shit on a tshirt and selling it for $15

diamonddave85, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:35 (five years ago) Permalink

The original iPhone was designed for a world where smartphones were horrid little button- and scroll-wheel-driven devices, and where proper humane computer interfaces were driven by mouse and trackpad cursors. The iPhone blended the two — the size and cellular networking of the smartphone, the humaneness of Mac-style UI design — and did so by introducing something new. The touchscreen.

The design of the iPhone software was entirely informed by the fact that this was a new experience, it was nothing like using an existing smartphone, nor anything like using a Mac or Windows PC. It needed training wheels, to get people up to speed. Thus, to name one small example, why iOS buttons have tended to look so very button-y. To inform the user, as clearly as possible, that this is a button that can be tapped.

is he capable of writing anything without sounding like a total choad? "humaneness," christ

scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:03 (five years ago) Permalink

tbf "humane" is a term of art in industrial/interface design and typography

caek, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:25 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm aware of that, but it doesn't make it sound any less ridiculous

scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:43 (five years ago) Permalink

not to come off sounding glib - as somebody who does ux for a living i guess i just reserve a lot of ire for people who overuse "humane" and "empathetic" etc

scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:46 (five years ago) Permalink

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7360/9024040494_c2c209f6d0_b.jpg

caek, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 22:57 (five years ago) Permalink

aw it's his wife

markers, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 22:58 (five years ago) Permalink

shirt/tie and jeans

jesus christ

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 22:59 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeugh

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 14 June 2013 01:34 (five years ago) Permalink

SMH

schwantz, Sunday, 16 June 2013 00:03 (five years ago) Permalink

Got away with an expired transfer on Metro Bus, listening to homeless guys argue, reading a free weekly paper. This is me.

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 16 June 2013 04:08 (five years ago) Permalink

you should all spend the next hour and a half or whatever listening to the episode of the talk show that that picture comes from

markers, Sunday, 16 June 2013 05:18 (five years ago) Permalink

apparently he met forstall after the iphone 4 announcement back in 2010

markers, Sunday, 16 June 2013 05:19 (five years ago) Permalink

asked him if he really used a loupe (he did)

markers, Sunday, 16 June 2013 05:19 (five years ago) Permalink

also the episode has a bunch of random people on it like merlin mann, scott simpson, his wife, blah blah

markers, Sunday, 16 June 2013 05:19 (five years ago) Permalink

I actually tried to listen to to it yesterday. I got to the 'comedian' and had to shut it off. Surprised I made it that far.

sofatruck, Sunday, 16 June 2013 16:30 (five years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/07/09/maximum-viable-products

he sure does admire expensive stuff for being expensive

caek, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 21:06 (five years ago) Permalink

i feel like there's this submeme of 'don't price your products too cheaply' going around among entrepreneuer types

乒乓, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 23:52 (five years ago) Permalink

i absolutely get that line of thinking, at least from the point of view developer.

but gruber is not a dev. he's a consumer/critic and he seems to be actively critical of inexpensive stuff simply because it's inexpensive.

i suppose that's fine when you are a cryptoconservative pulling in six figures.

caek, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 23:57 (five years ago) Permalink

dude he wants to pimp the meme of "it's okay to set your prices high" because he IS in the fucking development game. He doesn't want to lose money. And BTW his fucking app is overpriced and wouldn't make a dent in the world if it wasn't him pimping it. It's a classic solution looking for a problem, window dressing looking for a fucking window.

I don't find him conservative at all, at least judging from his overtly political posts.

"maximal apps" are nothing more than vanity projects or, as the fucking moron David Morin says, "bespoke" apps where devs jerk off into code, self-promote it as "disruptive", and then bask in the glory of the five other devs who want to pay $5.99 for five seconds of geek validation.

I would love to see a list of Gruber's paid consulting gigs related to typography.

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 02:54 (five years ago) Permalink

putting this in here

http://www.marco.org/bugshot

markers, Sunday, 14 July 2013 05:13 (five years ago) Permalink

that icon is gross

we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Sunday, 14 July 2013 22:34 (five years ago) Permalink

eh i don't think it's too bad

markers, Sunday, 14 July 2013 23:49 (five years ago) Permalink

charging for it is gross

shaane, Monday, 15 July 2013 02:21 (five years ago) Permalink

icon looks like two chairs doin it

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 15 July 2013 15:08 (five years ago) Permalink

to the sound of phish, no doubt

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, 15 July 2013 15:17 (five years ago) Permalink

maximals, roll out!

Nhex, Monday, 15 July 2013 15:41 (five years ago) Permalink

blasting some Phish and coding real hard here

mh, Monday, 15 July 2013 15:46 (five years ago) Permalink

marco and gruber are repping hard for this stratechery guy.
is he also tainted by their reps, or is he solid dude?

Philip Nunez, Monday, 15 July 2013 16:27 (five years ago) Permalink

jesus

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/07/23/dubai-case

caek, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:37 (five years ago) Permalink

hey I found this one account that contradicts every other account in mainstream news and casts doubt on a woman's story of sexual assault

oh wait, this single article is basically a press release by the government that oppressed her? my bad.

mh, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:40 (five years ago) Permalink

congratulations to the tories

caek, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:43 (five years ago) Permalink

i was just listening to the talk show

markers, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:47 (five years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/gruber/status/360905880075636736

markers, Sunday, 28 July 2013 00:58 (five years ago) Permalink

pvmic

Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 28 July 2013 01:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Washington doesn’t want to see Apple fail; they want Apple to continue making massive profits. They just want a bigger slice of those juicy profits kicked back.

Translation: I am as high as a kite.

i too went to college (silby), Monday, 5 August 2013 00:41 (five years ago) Permalink

that seems ... totally inarguable?

eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 5 August 2013 00:58 (five years ago) Permalink

actually forget it

eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 5 August 2013 00:59 (five years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/yV6VYNP.jpg

markers, Monday, 5 August 2013 01:05 (five years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/RMQmn2I.jpg

markers, Monday, 5 August 2013 01:07 (five years ago) Permalink

there hasn't been a talk show in too long but i guess he was/is on vacation

markers, Monday, 5 August 2013 18:34 (five years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/textlad/7983484366/

markers, Friday, 6 September 2013 05:14 (five years ago) Permalink

seriously the casual polo shirt or hoodie seems much more a valley affectation than just wearing a reasonable shirt eventually

space is deep (mh), Friday, 6 September 2013 05:18 (five years ago) Permalink

forestell always did look a bit radioshack for apple

caek, Friday, 6 September 2013 05:19 (five years ago) Permalink

I think Sir Jony might actually be in his PJs there.

i too went to college (silby), Friday, 6 September 2013 05:21 (five years ago) Permalink

seriously the casual polo shirt or hoodie seems much more a valley affectation than just wearing a reasonable shirt eventually

if you live in SF having a zip-up sweater-type thing is really handy. usually those end up being hoodies. i kinda hate hoodies but i have two.

eris bueller (lukas), Friday, 6 September 2013 05:28 (five years ago) Permalink

lol be serious people that rich can afford knitwear like they do everywhere else the weather is sometimes in the 60s. it has nothing to do with the climate.

caek, Friday, 6 September 2013 05:30 (five years ago) Permalink

you can tell ive's hoody is euro-nice and not googlebus wear

caek, Friday, 6 September 2013 05:31 (five years ago) Permalink

googlebus?

Nhex, Friday, 6 September 2013 05:33 (five years ago) Permalink

the bus google engineers ride to work, presumably

i too went to college (silby), Friday, 6 September 2013 05:33 (five years ago) Permalink

apples famous for wearing jeans cause they so raw

lag∞n, Friday, 6 September 2013 12:18 (five years ago) Permalink

forestell always did look a bit radioshack for apple

good call

oh man, I met up with a friend when I was in SF and since I'd just been wandering around all day I was wearing a hoodie and felt way overdressed since she'd just got off work. In retrospect, it was near the financial district so people probably weren't thinking "ugh, slob" they were probably thinking "ugh, those damn tech people"

space is deep (mh), Friday, 6 September 2013 13:36 (five years ago) Permalink

felt way _underdressed_ that is

space is deep (mh), Friday, 6 September 2013 13:36 (five years ago) Permalink

are you guys seriously mad that rich people arent dressing snootily enough

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 6 September 2013 22:29 (five years ago) Permalink

pat smear and taylor hawkins are dressed like they're ready to do server backups

Philip Nunez, Friday, 6 September 2013 23:57 (five years ago) Permalink

More that the SF clothing aesthetic is to look frumpy even if you're hailed as a paragon of industrial design.

space is deep (mh), Saturday, 7 September 2013 00:08 (five years ago) Permalink

i am furious at these rich people for letting the side down

caek, Saturday, 7 September 2013 02:02 (five years ago) Permalink

lol at the impeccable reading comprehension displayed in part 2 of this http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/09/18/barry-randall.

caek, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 21:04 (five years ago) Permalink

also lol at him implying he understands processor architecture

caek, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 21:04 (five years ago) Permalink

hey he wrote some perl scripts once

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 21:07 (five years ago) Permalink

ok, I looked it up and he apparently has a computer science degree! this actually explains why he knows everything.

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 21:08 (five years ago) Permalink

i have tweets for y'all

markers, Friday, 20 September 2013 02:49 (five years ago) Permalink

few minutes

markers, Friday, 20 September 2013 02:49 (five years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/cdespinosa/status/380762806615670785

markers, Friday, 20 September 2013 02:52 (five years ago) Permalink

he was in college!

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Friday, 20 September 2013 02:58 (five years ago) Permalink

seriously, what a fucking turd

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Friday, 20 September 2013 02:58 (five years ago) Permalink

ha roasted

lag∞n, Friday, 20 September 2013 03:13 (five years ago) Permalink

how often do you think people who work at Apple want to son him but they can't since they still work there

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Friday, 20 September 2013 03:25 (five years ago) Permalink

100% of the time, especially the 5 people assigned as his handlers/designated leakers

i too went to college (silby), Friday, 20 September 2013 06:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Tinker Tailor Soldier Gruber

fields of salmon, Monday, 23 September 2013 20:41 (five years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Trying to describe the difference in usability between the iPad Air and its predecessors is an exercise which puts my wordsmithing skills to the test.

sktsh, Saturday, 16 November 2013 14:22 (four years ago) Permalink

WordPress Adds Built-In Support for Markdown ★
Finally.

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 02:31 (four years ago) Permalink

finally

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 02:31 (four years ago) Permalink

trolled

eris bueller (lukas), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 05:32 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2014/01/15/cook-ftc

This paragraph strikes me as the central thesis of the entire memo. In a nut, it’s a sincere version of “Don’t be evil.”

*barf*

schwantz, Thursday, 16 January 2014 02:00 (four years ago) Permalink

the memo was inside a nut

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 January 2014 02:01 (four years ago) Permalink

thats an autocorrect fail, he meant to say "i'm a nut,"

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 January 2014 02:14 (four years ago) Permalink

jon "the nut" grubers krazy apple computer blog!!

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 January 2014 02:16 (four years ago) Permalink

i nutted on this memo, or as we call it, "grubering"

mh, Thursday, 16 January 2014 02:19 (four years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/6jSeRpH.jpg

markers, Thursday, 16 January 2014 03:04 (four years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

check out the site

markers, Friday, 14 February 2014 19:44 (four years ago) Permalink

"site" rhymes with paul bucheit

markers, Friday, 14 February 2014 19:44 (four years ago) Permalink

who is holding a gun itt

markers, Friday, 14 February 2014 19:44 (four years ago) Permalink

this story simply could not have been told w/o a lot of dots http://daringfireball.net/linked/2014/02/24/thousand-nos-yes

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 05:12 (four years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Some Classic Claim Chowdhry ★
So much to choose from, but here’s a good one from 2009:

Investors should not think the upcoming version of iPhone 3 is going to be as successful as iPhone 2.0 because it will have solid competition from Palm Pre, developed by ex-Apple designer Jon Rubinstein.

Palm Pre has a superior operating system than iPhone. It runs on a better network — Sprint CDMA — versus iPhone which runs on GSM.

I mean, obviously, the original assertion was comical, but dragging up things in 2014 that someone said on the internet in 2009 is a deeply, deeply vindictive and fearful tactic often rooted in deep personal insecurity. If this guy was a co-worker I'd steer around him.

fields of salmon, Thursday, 20 March 2014 19:46 (four years ago) Permalink

he's really mad about that new apple book huh

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 20 March 2014 20:38 (four years ago) Permalink

seek out the 9to5 mac post about jobs throwing a pencil at eddy cue

markers, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 02:04 (four years ago) Permalink

how about u seek it out and link it here

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 03:07 (four years ago) Permalink

throw a pencil at eddy cue yrself, carpe diem

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 17:26 (four years ago) Permalink

http://twitter.com/pschiller/status/447769180977504256

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:32 (four years ago) Permalink

Damn, sick comeback!!

, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:37 (four years ago) Permalink

in general it seems like the book isn't worth it. wish she'd distilled the new info into a solid article or something though.

check out yesterday's wsj piece about the original iphone. i'll see if i can find a link for slock so he odesn't need to take any time away from youtube

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:41 (four years ago) Permalink

click the link at the end of this article http://www.loopinsight.com/2014/03/25/apple-engineer-recalls-the-iphones-birth/

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:42 (four years ago) Permalink

markers, you're sounding disturbingly like one of those dudes who posts to fan sites for anime or w/e who think somebody else is a moron for not remembering which episode of Sailor Moon involved some incident

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:47 (four years ago) Permalink

i love you man, but this is a bad look

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:47 (four years ago) Permalink

how do you get that?

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:48 (four years ago) Permalink

i'll see if i can find a link for slock so he odesn't need to take any time away from youtube

― markers, Thursday, March 27, 2014 9:41 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

Oh shit :0

, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:48 (four years ago) Permalink

i think that was meant to be more about his laziness than anything else?

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:49 (four years ago) Permalink

and the tone was just returning the volley. anyway if i'm being an apple defender here ok but i'm not even sure i am really but who knows

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:49 (four years ago) Permalink

i don't think apple is fucked

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:50 (four years ago) Permalink

assuming that we would know the significance of that post in relation to apple history
that we would know what 9to5 mac is, probably a blog or something?
that we want to go to some other site to read about what is probably a passing anecdote

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:52 (four years ago) Permalink

well the first thing was just in the news, it's not old. i'm surprised you're not aware of the second, at least due to mark gurman's scoops, but i guess i could be super down the rabbit hole here. lastly, you guys do spend a lot of time talking about fedoras and other useless shit, so i'm sorry you wouldn't want to spend two seconds on this

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:54 (four years ago) Permalink

and yes, this also qualifies as useless shit.

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:54 (four years ago) Permalink

anyway, we're friends, lets not fight

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:55 (four years ago) Permalink

I have read a lot of random apple stuff in my day but I have no idea who mark gurman is, as far as data points go

I'd say that crafting a cool post tying that anecdote in would be neat!

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:56 (four years ago) Permalink

he broke the healthbook stuff the other week and has a lot of other apple scoops. sorry, i guess i really *am* down in a rabbit hole here, even in respect to you guys. i should probably spend less time following the minutae on twitter and elsewhere, but for now and the past couple years i really have, at the expense of other interests too

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:58 (four years ago) Permalink

i read gil amelio's memoir last year ffs

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:58 (four years ago) Permalink

all im saying markers is "go look up a blog post" is a bad look, why not just post a link to it if you really think its that interesting

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 27 March 2014 13:25 (four years ago) Permalink

i'm not sure it is, but here you go: http://9to5mac.com/2014/03/19/eddy-cue-throws-a-pen-at-haunted-empires-yukari-kanes-accuracy-says-story-isnt-true/

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:00 (four years ago) Permalink

forgive my mortal transgression of not linking.

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:01 (four years ago) Permalink

now i wish you hadnt

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:02 (four years ago) Permalink

next time i won't

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:03 (four years ago) Permalink

it's good to be back

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:03 (four years ago) Permalink

I skipped that link the first time tbh because I assumed it was about eddy cue and the pencil. But it was not and was interesting

stet, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:21 (four years ago) Permalink

gonna put that picture itt

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:23 (four years ago) Permalink

got distracted for a moment, but

http://i.imgur.com/JCCTJyi.jpg

from macrumors

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:30 (four years ago) Permalink

shit look at that thing

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:30 (four years ago) Permalink

Wait, what's that? Were they working ON IPHONE in G3 days?

stet, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:49 (four years ago) Permalink

no i think it started in 2005. they were trying to mimic the speed of what the phone hardware would be maybe? something like that? it says in the wsj somewhere

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:59 (four years ago) Permalink

for some reason that reminds me of Jobs using OpenStep on a Thinkpad when he returned to Apple because he thought their laptops were garbage

maybe a fierce G4 (G5?) hater was on the iPhone team

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 20:27 (four years ago) Permalink

I still shed a tear for all those children who were laid off from their jobs in the Motorola factory in 2006. You couldn't meet a stauncher group of PowerPC/OS 9 nationalists.

fields of salmon, Thursday, 27 March 2014 21:21 (four years ago) Permalink

good link coming in

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 02:34 (four years ago) Permalink

watch it

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 02:51 (four years ago) Permalink

at least a little

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 02:51 (four years ago) Permalink

so basically they needed an app cloud service. they don't mention any built-in synching merge tools, so presumably they made their own or used some other off-the-shelf library. from the code shown, it seems like there's minimal platform-specific code going on (it looked like javascript from what I watched) so it remains pretty portable.

IMO they're getting a promo deal backed by the video, and if their app gets large enough that they need to reevaluate their needs they could jump to any other cloud platform in a heartbeat

idk if this is apple dropping the ball on iCloud sync (which they have) as much as people not wanting to be locked in, in case they want multiple platforms for their app.

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 03:05 (four years ago) Permalink

i'm not sure why they chose this really. br3nt s1mmons does leave in seattle.

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 03:12 (four years ago) Permalink

he's the one who knew stuff about azure for some reason i think.

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 03:12 (four years ago) Permalink

ugh, if you click that link make sure you manually add the "-" to the end of the url or you won't get the video

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 03:13 (four years ago) Permalink

at least i didn't

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 03:13 (four years ago) Permalink

there are limited app cloud options, really

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 03:34 (four years ago) Permalink

i'm not sure why they chose this really. br3nt s1mmons does leave in seattle.

And is a worthy partner for Gruber. Christ, his dev blog is so painful to read I had to unsubscribe. Endless "do my homework for me", obvious mining of dead-ends, NIH all over the place, unsubstantiated resistance to the right solutions and manic over-engineering. Explains a lot about why NNW performance was so awful, and definitely explains the horrific state of its nib files.

stet, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:28 (four years ago) Permalink

lol

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:29 (four years ago) Permalink

you've brought actual developers with axes to grind in on this now, markers

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:32 (four years ago) Permalink

damn true

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:33 (four years ago) Permalink

as I said to someone recently, no one hates software developers more than other developers. and if you don't, then you're probably part of the problem.

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:34 (four years ago) Permalink

the funny thing about talking about software dev and vesper is that i actually wrote a notes app for the ti 83 plus back in the day

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:37 (four years ago) Permalink

you can store ten strings on it. i stored all the notes as a series of numbers in a matrix instead of storing them in the strings.

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:38 (four years ago) Permalink

you convert each number back to a character, and each character back into a number, to go from what's stored to what's displayed. something like that.

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:39 (four years ago) Permalink

p.s. ticalc.org existed long before the app store did

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:39 (four years ago) Permalink

your notes application was probably better implemented than vesper

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:42 (four years ago) Permalink

too bad you can't make a living off writing shit in ti basic

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:47 (four years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/pschiller/favorites

markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 02:41 (four years ago) Permalink

lol

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 18 April 2014 14:21 (four years ago) Permalink

is it just me or has grubby been a lot more friendly towards micro$hit since his azure coming out video

diamonddave85‌ (diamonddave85), Friday, 18 April 2014 15:17 (four years ago) Permalink

microsoft is pretty clearly doing better work as of late imo

lag∞n, Friday, 18 April 2014 16:35 (four years ago) Permalink

good comp sci for sure

that's always been true

would work at microsoft before google 100%

would never work at apple

caek, Friday, 18 April 2014 16:39 (four years ago) Permalink

Microsoft's got heart, just having fun out there.

the slow death of America's rich pastoral heritage (silby), Friday, 18 April 2014 16:39 (four years ago) Permalink

http://bit.ly/1kJ5hqf

markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 16:59 (four years ago) Permalink

developersdevelopersdevelopersdevelopers
DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS
DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 18 April 2014 17:00 (four years ago) Permalink

i would be friends with steve ballmer

markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 17:01 (four years ago) Permalink

At that point, Mr. Ballmer picked up a chair and threw it across the room hitting a table in his office. Mr. Ballmer then said: “Fucking Eric Schmidt is a fucking pussy. I’m going to fucking bury that guy, I have done it before, and I will do it again. I’m going to fucking kill Google.” ….

http://battellemedia.com/archives/2005/09/ballmer_throws_a_chair_at_fing_google.php

markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 17:02 (four years ago) Permalink

i hope that really happened

markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 17:03 (four years ago) Permalink

fing_google

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 18 April 2014 17:14 (four years ago) Permalink

what the hell that link isn't even working.

markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 17:30 (four years ago) Permalink

i am renaming myself to that hoos

markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 17:31 (four years ago) Permalink

Every picture of Steve Ballmer looks like it was taken a few seconds after or before he threw a chair across the room.

brimstead, Friday, 18 April 2014 18:30 (four years ago) Permalink

http://instagram.com/p/nJuoFMw5Ew/

markers, Friday, 25 April 2014 03:54 (four years ago) Permalink

-happy 18th Birthday, marco's son
-thanks mr gruber. you know I love cake!
*grubes dramatically launches instagram*
-I hope you also love this delicious can of VINTAGE CLAIM CHOWDER!!

sktsh, Friday, 25 April 2014 07:35 (four years ago) Permalink

lol

lag∞n, Friday, 25 April 2014 14:51 (four years ago) Permalink

lol

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 25 April 2014 17:06 (four years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2014/05/16/heathrow-samsung-translation

haha good one

caek, Saturday, 17 May 2014 17:25 (four years ago) Permalink

pass the ginsy winsies

sktsh, Saturday, 17 May 2014 17:32 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Someday, you’re going to want to be able to say, “I’ve been using Vesper since back when it was only for iPhone.”

schwantz, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 15:46 (four years ago) Permalink

lol at UPDATE

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2014/06/16/buckyball

caek, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 15:51 (four years ago) Permalink

lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 15:51 (four years ago) Permalink

-happy 18th Birthday, marco's son
-thanks mr gruber. you know I love cake!
*grubes dramatically launches instagram*
-I hope you also love this delicious can of VINTAGE CLAIM CHOWDER!!

― sktsh, Friday, April 25, 2014 7:35 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think of this post often

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 15:53 (four years ago) Permalink

ha yeah so good

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 16:02 (four years ago) Permalink

<3 <3 <3

sktsh, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 21:46 (four years ago) Permalink

urgh enough with the OTT praise for that stupid Only Apple post

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 09:21 (four years ago) Permalink

its a good post tbf

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:59 (four years ago) Permalink

is it tho

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 13:02 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah i thought it was p good

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 13:08 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

what's with grubby's recent obsession over this chinese knockoff iphone?

joe "scratch" perry (diamonddave85), Friday, 25 July 2014 22:36 (four years ago) Permalink

Jobs loved having enemies so Gubes has to love it too I guess?

ugh (lukas), Friday, 25 July 2014 22:40 (four years ago) Permalink

The Chinese: Good enough to manufacture iPhones, not good enough to compete with the iPhone

, Friday, 25 July 2014 23:04 (four years ago) Permalink

Gruber is probably just salty that Apple so badly misjudged the Chinese market with the 5c

, Friday, 25 July 2014 23:04 (four years ago) Permalink

I think he honestly sees even Samsung's less brazen chasing/copying of iPhone features and aesthetics as some sort of monumental injustice, a crime not against just Apple but against all human creative endeavors.

Forks I'd Clove to Fu (silby), Friday, 25 July 2014 23:06 (four years ago) Permalink

I have noticed that every page that tries to sell you something now has copied Apple's sales roll like

"Catchphrase. Less words. Bad pun."
<tiny paragraph of snappy text >

, Friday, 25 July 2014 23:10 (four years ago) Permalink

remember when he went after mike daisey?

markers, Friday, 25 July 2014 23:40 (four years ago) Permalink

some of the xiaomi stuff is ridic tho

markers, Friday, 25 July 2014 23:40 (four years ago) Permalink

the apple community just had its bacon moment: http://twitter.com/siracusa/status/492789327639113728

markers, Friday, 25 July 2014 23:44 (four years ago) Permalink

click through if u want pics

markers, Friday, 25 July 2014 23:44 (four years ago) Permalink

more like john srirachacusa

socki (s1ocki), Saturday, 26 July 2014 01:01 (four years ago) Permalink

remember when he went after mike daisey?

― markers, Friday, July 25, 2014 4:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbf Mike Daisey is a vacuous troll

Forks I'd Clove to Fu (silby), Saturday, 26 July 2014 16:32 (four years ago) Permalink

i wasn't saying that wasn't deserved, just that he gets on these things from time to time

markers, Saturday, 26 July 2014 16:36 (four years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

did anyone see the incident the other day when he posted something suggesting the iwatches release date and then said he was joking after (i think) the verge and shit picked it up?

markers, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 22:40 (four years ago) Permalink

imagine launching the iphone 6 and the iwatch in the same event? a major revision to the iphone's gotta have its own thing. and the iwatch is a whole new category!

markers, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 22:41 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah that was bonkers, it was all "Gruber confirms iwatch for september" based on a stray joke

gruber presumably has handlers at this point, they probably put him on leak embargo

heck (silby), Tuesday, 12 August 2014 22:42 (four years ago) Permalink

it didn't sound like a joke to me when i read it

markers, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 22:42 (four years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2014/08/14/ford-polite

"Such a lovely piece." --the guy who enjoys calling people he disagrees with jackass

lag∞n, Friday, 15 August 2014 18:16 (four years ago) Permalink

yes but he likes a good martini so

caek, Friday, 15 August 2014 23:49 (four years ago) Permalink

he likes stanley kubrick the rolling stones and the new york yankees

lag∞n, Friday, 15 August 2014 23:52 (four years ago) Permalink

and long, slow, deep, soft, wet, Apple press events that last three days

anonanon, Saturday, 16 August 2014 00:10 (four years ago) Permalink

people who stan that hard for stanley k but never ever mention any other directors make me go hmmm

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 18 August 2014 14:30 (four years ago) Permalink

hes only interested in the very best dont u see

lag∞n, Monday, 18 August 2014 14:33 (four years ago) Permalink

its like the dudes i knew in high school who only listened to movie soundtracks and no other music

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 18 August 2014 14:57 (four years ago) Permalink

lmao that was such a 90s type

lag∞n, Monday, 18 August 2014 15:03 (four years ago) Permalink

"Given these assumptions and the Pythagorean Theorem"

(pythagorean theorem is a wikipedia link)

caek, Saturday, 23 August 2014 14:02 (four years ago) Permalink

lol

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 August 2014 14:03 (four years ago) Permalink

Trust the math.

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 August 2014 14:08 (four years ago) Permalink

I could be wrong on either or both of these conjectured new iPhones. I derived these figures on my own, and I’ll explain my thought process below. No one who is truly “familiar with the situation” has told me a damn thing about either device. I have heard second- and third-hand stories, though, that lead me to think I’m right.

apple told someone and they told him

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 August 2014 14:09 (four years ago) Permalink

no he just figured it out through MATH

socki (s1ocki), Saturday, 23 August 2014 15:09 (four years ago) Permalink

soo much math

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 August 2014 15:14 (four years ago) Permalink

imho pieces like this are where gruber usually shines where theres all design usability technical cultural business etc aspects, but this one cldve def been like 1/3 as long as it was

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 August 2014 15:16 (four years ago) Permalink

tl;dr on marco's twitter beef with the wirecutter?

joe "scratch" perry (diamonddave85), Friday, 29 August 2014 22:47 (four years ago) Permalink

HEADPHONE BEEF

lag∞n, Friday, 29 August 2014 22:48 (four years ago) Permalink

Investigating, Marco apparently inadvertently started something with The Wirecutter people by making a now-edited post calling their process into question, which I think eventually escalated to Marco basically calling them plebs, the Wirecutter people calling him an amateur and then an asshole, and Brian Lam being accused of "race-baiting" by randoms.

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Friday, 29 August 2014 22:59 (four years ago) Permalink

lol

joe "scratch" perry (diamonddave85), Friday, 29 August 2014 23:08 (four years ago) Permalink

he wrote a mea culpa saying he had been an asshole but kinda blaming it on social media and saying he was gonna try to log off more and smell the flowers and when i searched twitter to try to figure out the genesis of the beef i found millions of tweets complimenting him on his profundity

lag∞n, Saturday, 30 August 2014 00:30 (four years ago) Permalink

pffffffffffffffffffffff

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 31 August 2014 23:24 (four years ago) Permalink

a lot of these guys are really bad writers

like this guy has stopped being a developer to become a writer?!

http://mattgemmell.com/confessions-of-an-ex-developer/

if he were american he'd probably be the kind of guy who'd have a copy of strunk and white on this desk (via gruber). but in spite of (because of) that, i feel like i'm having a stroke when i try to parse his writing.

caek, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 13:51 (four years ago) Permalink

My answer is always the same: not really. The actual truth of the matter, as ever, is more nuanced.

*leans in* say more...

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:02 (four years ago) Permalink

he used to insist on calling himself matt legend gemmell

sktsh, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:02 (four years ago) Permalink

My answer is always the same: not really. The actual truth of the matter, as ever, is more nuanced.

My mind still works in a systemic, algorithmic way

no it doesn't

caek, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:03 (four years ago) Permalink

http://www.patreon.com/mattgemmell

he's making $268 american dollars per month!

mh, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:04 (four years ago) Permalink

aw

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:11 (four years ago) Permalink

MATT GEMMELL IS CREATING
WORDS WITH MEANING

oh man he's creating his own words now, how artisanal

mh, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:14 (four years ago) Permalink

I find myself fashioning sentences, and occasionally paragraphs with some meaning, but would never go so far as to create words.

mh, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:17 (four years ago) Permalink

creating words is groapcian exercise imho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:19 (four years ago) Permalink

his favourite band is Dire Straits

stet, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 15:08 (four years ago) Permalink

i hope you know that because you found his four hour spotify mix 'coding with the legend' like i did

sktsh, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 15:15 (four years ago) Permalink

dire straits is good

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 15:58 (four years ago) Permalink

http://www.clickhole.com/blogpost/why-i-stopped-758

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 17:10 (four years ago) Permalink

http://blog.codinghorror.com/standard-flavored-markdown

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:04 (four years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/markdown/status/507341395137658880

markers, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:26 (four years ago) Permalink

lol grube mad

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:30 (four years ago) Permalink

LOOOOL

joe "scratch" perry (diamonddave85), Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:32 (four years ago) Permalink

i wouldn't expect anything less from him

joe "scratch" perry (diamonddave85), Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:32 (four years ago) Permalink

grubington

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:43 (four years ago) Permalink

His entire "ownership" of what is basically a rough text formatting convention and one perl script has been the pissiest show of fake power for years. iirc people tried to submit a few bug fixes to his perl script and he refused to even update that, let alone do anything markdown-related other than say he was the creator (lol) for a decade.

The fact he's trying to claim ownership or exclusivity over the ability to make _underscores_ turn into italics or w/e is so.... nothing.

mh, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:43 (four years ago) Permalink

its kinda like how he writes all day abt usability and his site is not mobile ready

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:49 (four years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/gruber/status/507570887068237824 lool

(OK, I'm hardly one to talk on the benign neglect line but y'know)

stet, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:51 (four years ago) Permalink

its kinda like how he writes all day abt usability and his site is not mobile ready

Yeah but you just know this is also some bullshit principle. iOS Safari is such a magical experience that you don't even need the baby web. See also: apple.com

stet, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:52 (four years ago) Permalink

ha yeah i love to pinch just to read still not big enough text its good

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:53 (four years ago) Permalink

markdown is very good but grube believes himself an artist when hes really a craftsman

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:54 (four years ago) Permalink

he is such a ding dong

mh, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:54 (four years ago) Permalink

what jackass

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:58 (four years ago) Permalink

ive got a heaping cup of claim chowder to server this jackass i swear

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:58 (four years ago) Permalink

server this jackass

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 4 September 2014 17:02 (four years ago) Permalink

damn straight

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 September 2014 17:03 (four years ago) Permalink

Yeah the official Markdown is a Perl script implemented with regexes and tons of undefined edge cases, so thanks for the idea Grubes but the Pandoc guy is the true Markdown king now.

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Thursday, 4 September 2014 17:13 (four years ago) Permalink

also no thanks for the idea. fuck markup. the mac did this better in 1984. ⌘-B >>>>>> "* *"

stet, Thursday, 4 September 2014 17:19 (four years ago) Permalink

Is that a rejected JW user name

, Thursday, 4 September 2014 17:22 (four years ago) Permalink

^_^

⌘-B (mh), Thursday, 4 September 2014 19:42 (four years ago) Permalink

The @horse_markdown parody Twitter account

fields of salmon, Thursday, 4 September 2014 22:38 (four years ago) Permalink

man I don't ordinarily play this card but of Jeff Atwood and John Gruber, one of those people is actually a professional software developer

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Thursday, 4 September 2014 22:59 (four years ago) Permalink

grubers a baby

lag∞n, Friday, 5 September 2014 00:06 (four years ago) Permalink

Marco Arment @marcoarment

Whether Gruber filed a trademark with the USPTO or not has no relevance on whether it’s a dick move to commandeer the name.

lag∞n, Friday, 5 September 2014 00:10 (four years ago) Permalink

it is a commendable dick move imo

⌘-B (mh), Friday, 5 September 2014 00:21 (four years ago) Permalink

John Gruber was also very upset, and I think rightfully so, that the word Markdown was not capitalized throughout the spec.

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 5 September 2014 13:28 (four years ago) Permalink

Atwood is a schmuck too. I love that the specification doesn't include a grammar. WTF? You're making the exact same mistake.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 5 September 2014 14:34 (four years ago) Permalink

I'm also amused it took two years. What were they spending their time on? Another unverifiable reference parser?

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 5 September 2014 14:43 (four years ago) Permalink

Allen (etaeoe)
Posted: September 5, 2014 at 10:34:44 AM
Atwood is a schmuck too.

i love the classic aggressive v passive aggressive face off going on here

lag∞n, Friday, 5 September 2014 14:49 (four years ago) Permalink

dont think arwood can compete w gruber in the schmuck department tho

lag∞n, Friday, 5 September 2014 14:51 (four years ago) Permalink

i love the classic aggressive v passive aggressive face off going on here

Totally. They should take their beef to app.net.

dont think arwood can compete w gruber in the schmuck department tho

No contest.

Aside: has ILX discussed Model View Culture? The Shanley and Atwood drama was entertaining.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 5 September 2014 14:54 (four years ago) Permalink

I love that the specification doesn't include a grammar. WTF?

psssh like these talky web and MS-lovin' dudes know what a grammar is

⌘-B (mh), Friday, 5 September 2014 14:58 (four years ago) Permalink

it's nabisco's blog iirc: http://agrammar.tumblr.com

markers, Friday, 5 September 2014 17:31 (four years ago) Permalink

otm

lag∞n, Friday, 5 September 2014 20:24 (four years ago) Permalink

Jeff Atwood ‏@codinghorror 2m
The Standard / Common Markdown project, in accordance with the wishes of @gruber, has been renamed to http://commonmark.org

lag∞n, Friday, 5 September 2014 23:06 (four years ago) Permalink

Such total twats.

Hey let's move this to Discourse.

stet, Friday, 5 September 2014 23:14 (four years ago) Permalink

congrats gruber you just made yourself even more irrelevant to this than you already are

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Friday, 5 September 2014 23:52 (four years ago) Permalink

(btw presumably the spec is not in the form of a BNF grammar definition b/c markdown isn't even context-free so you couldn't specify or implement it that way, or use a context-free parser generator to parse it. The pandoc guy's implementations generally use Parsing Expression Grammars, an abstraction for describing parses with more power than a CFG.)

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Saturday, 6 September 2014 00:01 (four years ago) Permalink

Jeff Atwood may be a dillweed but jgm (the pandoc guy) is good at actual things.

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Saturday, 6 September 2014 00:03 (four years ago) Permalink

http://commonmark.org

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Saturday, 6 September 2014 00:38 (four years ago) Permalink

Are the Yankees the best team in baseball?
We used to think so.

sofatruck, Saturday, 6 September 2014 03:01 (four years ago) Permalink

It's possible to specify a context sensitive language using a formal grammar. In fact, it's a useful exercise because the grammar emphasizes the ambiguities of the underlying language. It's also possible to reduce a language into a context-free grammar by assuming a modifying lexical analysis pass (e.g. many programming languages, but notably white space sensitive languages like Haskell or Python). Semicolon insertion is a common technique.

Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 6 September 2014 13:08 (four years ago) Permalink

Heh I stand outgunned.

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Saturday, 6 September 2014 15:20 (four years ago) Permalink

can u explain that to someone who like knows jquery

lag∞n, Saturday, 6 September 2014 15:47 (four years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/509410066857201664

caek, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 19:17 (four years ago) Permalink

i love @pinboard

lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 19:18 (four years ago) Permalink

srsly

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 21:14 (four years ago) Permalink

when he clowns the people who bought delicious I giggle

⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 21:34 (four years ago) Permalink

the youtube dudes, right? chad hurley and whoever?

markers, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 23:14 (four years ago) Permalink

idk man but I googled this
http://www.crunchbase.com/organization/delicious

⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 23:32 (four years ago) Permalink

pharrell? xp

lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 23:56 (four years ago) Permalink

i think that's it

markers, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 00:09 (four years ago) Permalink

oh god dude is already talking like he's a watch expert

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 03:11 (four years ago) Permalink

its too bad he didnt have any time to get into watches and now he just has to think the apple watch is the best

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 03:16 (four years ago) Permalink

A few days into testing the new iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, I accidentally left my personal iPhone 5S on a desk next to the iPhone 6 Plus. While my back was turned, the Plus tried to eat my 5S. It’s a monster.

cant tell if serious..

I kid, but only sort of.

oh

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 16:45 (four years ago) Permalink

Only sort of kidding that his demo phone is an actual living breathing monster

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 16:56 (four years ago) Permalink

now im scared, great

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:06 (four years ago) Permalink

It’s been a while since I used a rounded iPhone. It’s nice. With the iPhone 6, I’ve found myself reverting to a habit I formed back in 2007 with the original iPhone: slowly spinning it around in my hand, over and over, side over side, like one of those “worry stones” that were popular back in the 1990s. It just feels nice in your hand. (The 6 Plus is too big for me to do this with.)

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:13 (four years ago) Permalink

Ah, but then there’s The Bulge. Both iPhone 6 models have a camera lens that protrudes from the back of the phone. It’s noticeable, and, let’s face it, a little gross. But this was foreseeable given that the presciently-designed iPod Touch from two years ago had one too. (The iPod Touch is just 6.1mm thick, thinner even than the iPhone 6.) This is a conflict with the laws of physics: image quality improves when the lens is further away from the sensor (which allows for physically larger sensors), but devices feel better in hand and weigh less when they are thinner. Apple’s only options for the iPhone 6:

Use a camera with worse optics that would sit flush with the rest of the case.

Make the entirely device thicker to sit flush with the camera lens.

Allow the camera lens to protrude from the back of the camera.

The first choice is unacceptable. Image quality is too important to allow it to suffer — and Apple certainly couldn’t allow image quality on the iPhone 6 to be worse than on the 5S. So the choice was between #2 and #3, and as a fan of smaller thinner devices, I can’t say I disagree with Apple’s decision to go with #3. It’s reasonable to argue that the iPhone 6 would have been better if Apple had gone with #2 (and filled the additional volume with a slightly thicker battery), but that’s not really Apple-like.

omg why didnt they do this drives me fn nuts mane

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:21 (four years ago) Permalink

they did it to drive you nuts iirc

⌘-B (mh), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:31 (four years ago) Permalink

They could have made the camera thinner if they went super wide angle, and then used post processing to fix the image / crop

, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:33 (four years ago) Permalink

omg why didnt they do this drives me fn nuts mane

― lag∞n, Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:21 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i know!!

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:51 (four years ago) Permalink

They could have made the camera thinner if they went super wide angle, and then used post processing to fix the image / crop

― 龜, Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:33 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jony ive, browsing ilx, facepalms

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:51 (four years ago) Permalink

cropping does not have the same effect as a longer lens tho, iphone lens already way too fn wide imho impossible to take pictures of anything far away

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:55 (four years ago) Permalink

There are probably too many DSLR purist freaks on the design team to ever go for a flat solution tho

, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:59 (four years ago) Permalink

the watch post...

what kind of monster is he?

caek, Thursday, 18 September 2014 10:18 (four years ago) Permalink

I seriously had a dream this morning that he posted something with some vaguely rape-apologist elements and then Jason Kottke called him out on it, so I should probably get better dreams and spend less time thinking about John Gruber.

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:24 (four years ago) Permalink

lmao otm

lag∞n, Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:26 (four years ago) Permalink

that is an incredible internet dream tho

lag∞n, Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:26 (four years ago) Permalink

$80 for a steel watch band is a “hefty price”. That’s adorable.

fuck you, basically

ugh (lukas), Thursday, 18 September 2014 16:21 (four years ago) Permalink

Well, if you're pulling down something like $260k a year mainly posting links and the occasional longform article, $80 is adorable.

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 18 September 2014 16:31 (four years ago) Permalink

lmao

lag∞n, Sunday, 21 September 2014 16:52 (four years ago) Permalink

"thoughts on" is not necessarily a good way to start a title. this is an apple blogger tic, and yes i know abt jobs, obv

markers, Friday, 26 September 2014 00:53 (four years ago) Permalink

also: one word titles like matt gemmell's "portable" or w/e

markers, Friday, 26 September 2014 00:54 (four years ago) Permalink

that "iphones 6" shit is also ridic

markers, Friday, 26 September 2014 00:54 (four years ago) Permalink

if you have to stick with the super simple format, at least go with "iphone 6 and iphone 6 plus" or something

markers, Friday, 26 September 2014 00:54 (four years ago) Permalink

"layer tennis"

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:43 (four years ago) Permalink

hah i was just looking at that

markers, Friday, 26 September 2014 19:48 (four years ago) Permalink

didn't read past the first sentence of what I presume is saccharine nonsense about Derek Jeter

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Sunday, 28 September 2014 19:31 (four years ago) Permalink

i don't know if i finished it, but i didn't think it was bad at all

markers, Monday, 29 September 2014 12:37 (four years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/I2DMUWL.png

sounds very fun

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 00:38 (four years ago) Permalink

http://blog.fawny.org/2014/10/10/gruberbucks/

caek, Friday, 10 October 2014 13:53 (four years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/IdaRhNv.png

, Friday, 10 October 2014 14:25 (four years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2014/10/09/ive-xiaomi

pretty good gruberzing here

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 10 October 2014 14:28 (four years ago) Permalink

I have a coworker with one of those t-shirts :/

⌘-B (mh), Friday, 10 October 2014 14:37 (four years ago) Permalink

when they say something dumb in a meeting and are wearing the shirt you shd tell them youre filing it to claim chowder

lag∞n, Friday, 10 October 2014 14:39 (four years ago) Permalink

hahahaha

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 10 October 2014 14:45 (four years ago) Permalink

lol

or just knock em out with one punch and when someone tries to ask them to explain their comment you can say "UPDATE: fireballed"

sktsh, Friday, 10 October 2014 14:45 (four years ago) Permalink

lol