http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/cameron
asshole
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/green-day-rip-this-joint
yuppie
(PEDANTIC NOTE: House style here at Daring Fireball is to capitalize the second words in “iPod Mini” and “iPod Photo”, on the basis that they’re proper names, despite the fact that Apple’s marketing style is to use lowercase.)
you write a blog
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/08/campus
lol
― caek, Thursday, 9 June 2011 09:46 (nine years ago) link
Really beginning to think that Gruber needs his own thread, but I don't want to be the one to start it.
The latest Talk Show podcast, 35-ish minutes in. They're discussing the new iPad cover and he's practically on some kind of nerd interpretation of the old "Magnets? How the fuck do they work?" routine.
So I dare to visit his website today because of his verbal spastic attack, and one of the links is to a news story about the actress from The Wire with his heartfelt and not at all patronisingly semi-racist comment of "That’s a shame, but I’m glad to see her alive."
― James Mitchell, Thursday, March 10, 2011 8:36 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― caek, Thursday, 9 June 2011 09:48 (nine years ago) link
he is a champ at this glib commencement speech bullshit
― caek, Thursday, 9 June 2011 09:53 (nine years ago) link
arsehole
― It's not like we could go to Islam (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 9 June 2011 09:53 (nine years ago) link
The rate card for his weekly sponsorship is now $5,500 -- $286,000 a year if it sells out at full price.http://www.businessinsider.com/daring-fireball-2011-3#ixzz1OltvorIZ
http://www.businessinsider.com/daring-fireball-2011-3#ixzz1OltvorIZ
not bad considering he just lazily throws up links most of the time.
― joe, Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:02 (nine years ago) link
Don't think of iCloud as the new MobileMe; think of iCloud as the new iTunes.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:08 (nine years ago) link
It also means iPhone users with iPhone-using friends and family no longer need SMS. I’ll cancel my SMS plan as soon as this ships.
I don’t think over-the-air backups or media syncing are coming soon. Wireless networking just isn’t fast enough. I’m not talking about Wi-Fi syncing over a local network to iTunes running on your Mac or PC — that may well be coming soon, but it wouldn’t solve the “how can these devices be ‘post-PC’ if they require a PC?” problem. We’re not talking about why the iPad needs a USB cable; we’re talking about why it needs a PC, period.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:16 (nine years ago) link
haha, i'd forgotten that. glad that there is a place to document gruber's predictions with the same mixture of obsessiveness and gloating that he reserves for everyone else.
― joe, Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:19 (nine years ago) link
"we’re talking about why it needs a PC, period"
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:23 (nine years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net/2005/06/shuffling
The music on FM radio pretty much totally sucks
where did you read that? in a rolling stone you bought at an airport?
― caek, Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:31 (nine years ago) link
I’m biased, insofar as I consider Apple’s strategy more appealing than Google’s. But that’s because my interest lies in having the best possible user experience — the best-looking UIs, the lowest-latency responses, the smoothest animation, the most elegant designs. I share that interest with Apple. Google’s interest is in reaching the largest possible audience. That’s why I chose, at the outset of this paragraph, to say that I find Apple’s strategy “more appealing than”, rather than, say, “superior to”, Google’s. Apple’s strategy is correct for optimizing the quality of the user experience. Google’s strategy is correct for maximizing the number of users for its apps.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 16 June 2011 07:39 (nine years ago) link
haha liking this thread no matter how redundant it is - keep em coming
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 16 June 2011 07:49 (nine years ago) link
Will be interesting to see how this pans out. Not sure what it means if it’s true that their initial target is Mobile Safari specifically, not mobile WebKit in general. My guess is that it’s simply a result of Mobile Safari being so far ahead of the Android WebKit engine.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:25 (nine years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/17/apple-buy-phone-industry
yes, but it would be illegal under US, UK and EU law, so what's your point?
― caek, Friday, 17 June 2011 18:09 (nine years ago) link
Has he always been so mean-spirited? I don't remember him being so spiteful just a few years ago.
― lukas, Friday, 17 June 2011 21:51 (nine years ago) link
http://diveintomark.org/archives/2011/06/17/come-on-gruber-youre-better-than-this
url a bit generous but otherwise, oh snap
― caek, Friday, 17 June 2011 22:58 (nine years ago) link
Gruber seems to be right about things a lot of the time, though that's easy when the people he disagrees with are prone to willfully ignoring the fact that Apple is making hundreds of millions of dollars doing what it's doing and is preposterously unlikely to make any sudden changes in strategy. Also less of a raging, belligerent asshole than you might expect.
― T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:49 (nine years ago) link
Also wrt the "buy whole cell phone industry" post that is sort of following up on an earlier link about how Apple could easily have enough cash in a few years to take itself private. That is, in an industry where firms are frequently assessed by their market cap or their VC funding or what have you, Apple actually has HUMONGOUS FAT STACKS OF CASH.
― T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:52 (nine years ago) link
agreed that this guy is a bit of a dick, he has unsavory triumphalist tendencies, and thinks various middlebrow stuff is the height of human achievement - however as to his core competency, i do believe hes one of the best writers on design out there today
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:58 (nine years ago) link
Chock full of SEO crap: My comment on Marco Arment's comment on John Gruber's comment on David Pogue's comment on Google's Chromebook.
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 19 June 2011 08:29 (nine years ago) link
Has anyone read the marco aren't Phish post?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 19 June 2011 09:34 (nine years ago) link
Damn autocorrect: Arment
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 19 June 2011 09:35 (nine years ago) link
however as to his core competency, i do believe hes one of the best writers on design out there today
he doesn't really do this any more though?
― caek, Sunday, 19 June 2011 10:18 (nine years ago) link
Got sick of his blog a while ago - but I have to admit his comment on the Chromebook is kinda on point, why does it deserve a "good try!" sentiment?
― Nhex, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:30 (nine years ago) link
Gruber's predictions that don't come true are still reasonable and make sense when you evaluate the facts available at the time. He can't rely on his mysterious inside sources all the time, you see.
You don't have to believe me, just ask Gruber. He's always Gruber. I mean, right.
― mh, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:52 (nine years ago) link
― caek, Sunday, June 19, 2011 6:18 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah its not most of his posts, but when he does write a long piece i feel like he really gets where design is at re todays technologies
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:55 (nine years ago) link
also hes a v good clear writer
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:56 (nine years ago) link
chrisdejabet Chris De Jabet by daringfireballJust got complimented on my @daringfireball shirt at the Apple Store. Because I'm handsome.18 hours ago
*stabs twitter in the face*
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:42 (nine years ago) link
thought it was really out of line when this guy shot mr takagi
― little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:50 (nine years ago) link
i really like gruber
which mac writers do you guys really like? i could use some more feeds in my google reader
― markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:46 (nine years ago) link
Jean-Louis Gassee
― lukas, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:54 (nine years ago) link
totally forgot abt him, thanking u
― markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 19:21 (nine years ago) link
feel like this post embodies many of his less good qualities
http://grab.by/cBWF
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:02 (nine years ago) link
how long till some shill links him this thread and ilx gets ~fireballed~
― summer is coming (cozen), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:04 (nine years ago) link
one can dream
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:05 (nine years ago) link
You are trying to view American McCarver on a shitty browser. Won't work.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 12:37 (nine years ago) link
Note that the UI screenshots are even set in Helvetica, not Arial. Some of the best evidence of good taste at Google I can ever recall.
duly noted.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/28/google-plus-videos
― joe, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:51 (nine years ago) link
guh arial and helvetica are like exactly the same shit stfu already
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:54 (nine years ago) link
A friend shared this blog post on Google Reader: http://stu.mp/2011/06/dear-yahoo-hire-me-as-your-next-ceo.html
I’d buy the NYT (for a mere $1.5bn!) and recruit John Gruber to be Editor in Chief of the “Yahoo! News” division.
I cried a little.
― mh, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:04 (nine years ago) link
Oh god, until I read that blog post in full I thought that was a joke, like forcing him to cover stories about Microsoft.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 20:40 (nine years ago) link
Cringely's been half-nuts for years. Now I think he's full-nuts.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:24 (nine years ago) link
well, he's got a point
― caek, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:26 (nine years ago) link
I guess it's not as bad as how he keeps referring to Paul Thurrott as a 'dick' purely because he writes about Microsoft.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:36 (nine years ago) link
cringelys nutsness is the best part of his shtick, guy is not afraid to think big
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:37 (nine years ago) link
I don't think Cringely's being nuts there! Even if Jobs is showing pictures of full server rooms, it's not like he's shown pictures of the entire interior of the facility, and it's completely possible that it's not that densely populated.
― mh, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:38 (nine years ago) link
yeah but thats not some weird conspiracy designed to intimidate rivals, its just building out future capacity
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:43 (nine years ago) link
p sure this dood killed caylee http://horace.dediu.usesthis.com
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 7 July 2011 03:51 (nine years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/cameronasshole
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/08/murdoch
"congratulations to the tories"
― joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 20:18 (nine years ago) link
wish someone would put this asshole in a room w/paul thurrott and then they can mutually annihilate each other
― Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:22 (nine years ago) link
maybe i've just been developing for legacy browsers too long at this point, but this kills me. laziest shit ever - you run a SPORTS BLOG ffs
― unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:29 (nine years ago) link
actually i think i hate sub-gruber wannabe sycophant ux doods even worse than gruber proper - so much hot air about making software "empathetic," so much whining about not getting paid to be a thought leader, so much referring to "marco" by the mononym...
― unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:33 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/e7obs.png
― laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:39 (nine years ago) link
Read a blog post about grids. Saw a movie about Helvetica. Short. Terse. Sentences.
― laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:41 (nine years ago) link
TS: john gruber vs lieutenant gruber from 'allo 'allo
― Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:42 (nine years ago) link
RAGE!
― laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:47 (nine years ago) link
oops already posted X:
it cannot be mocked too often. the star was a nice touch.
― joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 22:49 (nine years ago) link
I listened to some of his most recent podcasts during the week and was astounded by his and Dan Benjamin's claim that it gets 800,000 downloads an episode.
Err, what? Maybe it was some kind of belated rip on The Daily's iPad app but I think they were being serious. There's no way it's true, though.
― James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:36 (nine years ago) link
i think it's more like 400,000, but i could be wrong
800,000 was either the WWDC or post-WWDC download count iirc, but again, i could be wrong
― markers, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:39 (nine years ago) link
It's like his amazing high trafficked and revolutionary new sports website, which is actually a fucking tumble blog about baseball where you click on the notes to find less than half a dozen people 'liked' each post and fuck-all anybody reblogged anything, because why the fuck would you.
I'd rather read David Beckham's views on fonts an touch interfaces.
― James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:41 (nine years ago) link
are you kidding i'd TOTALLY read david beckham's views on fonts and touch interfaces
― unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Saturday, 9 July 2011 14:02 (nine years ago) link
Dean Martin’s recipe for hamburgers. Sounds perfect. ★
nice commentary.
― laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:32 (nine years ago) link
Sounds like... salted meat and a glass of bourbon
― mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:42 (nine years ago) link
http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/markdown-discuss/2008-March/001163.html
-J.G.
― ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:37 (nine years ago) link
I give it a C-. Not up to the high standards of open source assholery established by the likes of Linus Torvalds. Canonical example http://lwn.net/Articles/249460/
― T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:47 (nine years ago) link
Yes, in August, Apple is going to start selling Lion on USB sticks. But I think most of us really will be able to get by without them. That’s why the USB stick installers are going to cost $69, a $40 markup over the App Store download. Apple wants us to go download-only.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 08:44 (nine years ago) link
Rather than try to one-up their selections I’m going to one-down them. Herewith, then, are the Top Ten Worst Westerns. Observations inside.
You can tell he’s right on most of these, from the posters alone.
god what a bore.
― caek, Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:37 (nine years ago) link
dude is like a demigod of suburban consumerism, yelling so loudly about inane bullshit from atop a mountain of 'slightly used' apple products. good links sometimes tho.
― shaane, Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:24 (nine years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/20/scrollvetica
Scrollvetica.
SCROLLVETICA
― ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:29 (nine years ago) link
not to mention scroll reverser has been around since day 1 of the lion betas
― ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:30 (nine years ago) link
does it set yr scrollbars in helvetica
― markers, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:15 (nine years ago) link
Marco Arment is way worse; he's like distilled Gruber shit.
― stet, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:26 (nine years ago) link
lol i like both of them
― markers, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:27 (nine years ago) link
It's a beautiful, simple and clean way of moving your fat fingers along the edge of the touchpad.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:51 (nine years ago) link
"Elegant" is the term I hate most from the doucherati.
― stet, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:57 (nine years ago) link
helvetigant
― ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Thursday, 21 July 2011 18:04 (nine years ago) link
One of my friends followed Marco on Ping for some reason. Marco's musical tastes are something to behold.
― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 21 July 2011 18:29 (nine years ago) link
Lotta Phish, I guess.
― stet, Thursday, 21 July 2011 18:37 (nine years ago) link
john gruber, newspaper pundit:
Just look at how uncluttered the print edition of The Times is, and how it’s designed to emphasize what is important.http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/27/news-site-design
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/27/news-site-design
http://www.nytimes.com/images/2011/07/27/nytfrontpage/scan.jpg
so uncluttered.
― joe, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 21:19 (nine years ago) link
It would be much more simpler and eleganter if they made an app to display one story at a time and enabled users to three-finger swipe between pages, and they should hand over all their ad revenue to Apple for enabling such simpleness and eleganticity.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 21:22 (nine years ago) link
I am trying to find a way to explain how the print version isn't really cluttered, but it's really the textbook definition of clutter
― mh, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 21:28 (nine years ago) link
When you get paid to say things, it's hard to stop saying things.
― T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 22:06 (nine years ago) link
typeset nytimes in helvetica
― ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 22:10 (nine years ago) link
the essence of good taste
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 01:17 (nine years ago) link
I dig the nytimes chrome app
― flop's son (dayo), Thursday, 28 July 2011 01:51 (nine years ago) link
the one thing that the chrome app and the ipad app do that the website does not is give me a one or two sentence blurb on what the article is about. no need to decipher what an article called 'Skin Deep: Someone Just Like Me Said, ‘Buy It’' is about
― flop's son (dayo), Thursday, 28 July 2011 01:52 (nine years ago) link
found it p janky when i tried it a while ago
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:28 (nine years ago) link
maybe they dejanked it
― flop's son (dayo), Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:30 (nine years ago) link
ok yeah its def p diff than before, but w/e not enough linx per page, needs more clutter
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:33 (nine years ago) link
thats cool all the diff views it gives you tho
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:34 (nine years ago) link
lol @ their names
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:35 (nine years ago) link
i prefer 'doric'
youre a doric
i think ur a doric
― flop's son (dayo), Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:37 (nine years ago) link
'flow' is the best, welcome this new age future of web design
― flop's son (dayo), Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:40 (nine years ago) link
serendipity is more my speed man
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 03:01 (nine years ago) link
so sad to see one of our own get left behind in the slipstream of now-future web design RIP :(
― flop's son (dayo), Thursday, 28 July 2011 03:05 (nine years ago) link
http://www.milliondollarhomepage.com/
― markers, Thursday, 28 July 2011 03:08 (nine years ago) link
past, present, and future rite there imo
indefensible: #4a525aholes
― ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Friday, 29 July 2011 17:34 (nine years ago) link
"Outlook", an email program from Microsoft. http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/08/04/google-email-preview
Six words and one set of scare quotes, all douchey. Would he say '"Word", a word processing program'? Outlook is one of the most used apps in the world. It's even out for Mac, ffs.
And why "program"? Is his house style now to ape newspapers from 1985? It's either a client or an app, though I suspect the style guide has had a douching to ensure "app" only means something that runs on iOS devices.
― stet, Saturday, 6 August 2011 19:54 (nine years ago) link
that one made sense to me - infantilising to highlight how un-revolutionary the new gmail feature is.
― sean gramophone, Saturday, 6 August 2011 21:22 (nine years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/08/22/gawker
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 06:37 (nine years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/08/31/vintagezen
Pretty sure the only reason Apple may be getting out of the 100 million unit a year music player market is the fact it's not as profitable as making phones, not this guff about a "simpler product lineup".
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 1 September 2011 06:58 (nine years ago) link
"I concur with this logic."
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:16 (nine years ago) link
It would be kind of a ballsy move. Not many people would choose to carry both a music-only device and a phone if the phone offered the same or better functionality. A phone is the thing everybody needs, and it seems like only 50% of people even really care about music at all. Why be in a market people don't care about, when you could spend your efforts dominating one that EVERYONE cares about.
It's like saying that in order to listen to music now, you have to have an iPhone, but that's what you really want anyway.
― fields of salmon, Saturday, 3 September 2011 18:23 (nine years ago) link
Carol Bartz, a Year Ago, on Apple’s iAd: ‘That’s Going to Fall Apart for Them’Daring FireballJohn GruberI said we should check back in a year, and here we are. Bartz may well be proven right eventually — it doesn’t seem like iAd is doing great — but as of today iAd is still here and Bartz is out.
― diamonddave85, Thursday, 8 September 2011 18:13 (nine years ago) link
i like him, but i wish he'd stop banging on about google being a ruthless business. SHOCK! WE KNOW
― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 8 September 2011 19:39 (nine years ago) link
i like gruber too, but i also didn't like that bartz/iad thing
― markers, Thursday, 8 September 2011 19:41 (nine years ago) link
(Via Mike Monteiro, whose Twitter account page background is a painting of a topless Bea Arthur.)
lmbo
― markers, Friday, 9 September 2011 20:17 (nine years ago) link
Given that one of the levels involves catching suicide-jumping Foxconn factory workers, it’s more surprising that the game got into the App Store in the first place than that it was removed.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 04:43 (nine years ago) link
geez step off that soapbox, marco.
Please withdraw the free-update offer. We will not hold you to it.Really. Please. [...] Please let us give you more money.
Really. Please. [...] Please let us give you more money.
http://www.marco.org/2011/09/27/textmate-2-free-upgrade
― jeff tWEEDy (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:04 (nine years ago) link
Koch Brothers Flout Law With Secret Iran Sales ★Deep report by Asjylyn Loder and David Evans for Bloomberg on Koch Industries:
A Bloomberg Markets investigation has found that Koch Industries — in addition to being involved in improper payments to win business in Africa, India and the Middle East — has sold millions of dollars of petrochemical equipment to Iran, a country the U.S. identifies as a sponsor of global terrorism.
That’s just the tip of the iceberg. Great investigative reporting.
damn what sort of inside infos u got on koch, better watch yr back grubes baby
― ice cr?m, Monday, 3 October 2011 15:06 (nine years ago) link
Scaling at InstagramMike Krieger, Instagram co-founder, on their engineering blog:With more than 25 photos and 90 likes every second, we store a lot of data here at Instagram.25 photos per second is more than the 24 frames per second of a motion picture.
Mike Krieger, Instagram co-founder, on their engineering blog:
With more than 25 photos and 90 likes every second, we store a lot of data here at Instagram.
25 photos per second is more than the 24 frames per second of a motion picture.
good eye gruber!!
― jeff tWEEDy (diamonddave85), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:51 (nine years ago) link
maybe instagram is... MAKING A MOVIE
― ice cr?m, Monday, 3 October 2011 16:52 (nine years ago) link
Yeah that was just mind-bogglingly inane
― ilx user 'silby' (silby), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:56 (nine years ago) link
Uh-oh: Gruber reads ILX - http://americanmccarver.com/post/10741316759/rickey
― James Mitchell, Monday, 3 October 2011 17:52 (nine years ago) link
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:17 (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― caek, Monday, 3 October 2011 18:03 (nine years ago) link
metafilter's own
― stet, Monday, 3 October 2011 18:11 (nine years ago) link
― ilx user 'silby' (silby), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:08 (nine years ago) link
Gruber's structurally valid Jobs obit:
After the WWDC keynote four months ago, I saw Steve, up close.He looked old. Not old in a way that could be measured in years or even decades, but impossibly old. Not tired, but weary; not ill or unwell, but rather, somehow, ancient. But not his eyes. His eyes were young and bright, their weapons-grade intensity intact. His sweater was well-worn, his jeans frayed at the cuffs.But the thing that struck me were his shoes, those famous gray New Balance 991s. They too were well-worn. But also this: fresh bright green grass stains all over the heels.Those grass stains filled my mind with questions. How did he get them? When? They looked fresh, two, three days old, at the most. Apple keynote preparation is notoriously and unsurprisingly intense. But not so intense, those stains suggested, as to consume the entirety of Jobs’s days. There is no grass in Moscone West.Surely, my mind raced, surely he has more than one pair of those shoes. He could afford to buy the factory that made them. Why wear this grass-stained pair for the keynote, a rare and immeasurably high-profile public appearance? My guess: he didn’t notice, didn’t care. One of Jobs’s many gifts was that he knew what to give a shit about. He knew how to focus and prioritize his time and attention. Grass stains on his sneakers didn’t make the cut. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Late last night, long hours after the news broke that he was gone, my thoughts returned to those grass stains on his shoes back in June. I realize only now why they caught my eye. Those grass stained sneakers were the product of limited time, well spent. And so the story I’ve told myself is this:I like to think that in the run-up to his final keynote, Steve made time for a long, peaceful walk. Somewhere beautiful, where there are no footpaths and the grass grows thick. Hand-in-hand with his wife and family, the sun warm on their backs, smiles on their faces, love in their hearts, at peace with their fate.
He looked old. Not old in a way that could be measured in years or even decades, but impossibly old. Not tired, but weary; not ill or unwell, but rather, somehow, ancient. But not his eyes. His eyes were young and bright, their weapons-grade intensity intact. His sweater was well-worn, his jeans frayed at the cuffs.
But the thing that struck me were his shoes, those famous gray New Balance 991s. They too were well-worn. But also this: fresh bright green grass stains all over the heels.
Those grass stains filled my mind with questions. How did he get them? When? They looked fresh, two, three days old, at the most. Apple keynote preparation is notoriously and unsurprisingly intense. But not so intense, those stains suggested, as to consume the entirety of Jobs’s days. There is no grass in Moscone West.
Surely, my mind raced, surely he has more than one pair of those shoes. He could afford to buy the factory that made them. Why wear this grass-stained pair for the keynote, a rare and immeasurably high-profile public appearance? My guess: he didn’t notice, didn’t care. One of Jobs’s many gifts was that he knew what to give a shit about. He knew how to focus and prioritize his time and attention. Grass stains on his sneakers didn’t make the cut.
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Late last night, long hours after the news broke that he was gone, my thoughts returned to those grass stains on his shoes back in June. I realize only now why they caught my eye. Those grass stained sneakers were the product of limited time, well spent. And so the story I’ve told myself is this:
I like to think that in the run-up to his final keynote, Steve made time for a long, peaceful walk. Somewhere beautiful, where there are no footpaths and the grass grows thick. Hand-in-hand with his wife and family, the sun warm on their backs, smiles on their faces, love in their hearts, at peace with their fate.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 6 October 2011 14:17 (nine years ago) link
His enduring, long-lasting legacy: that Gruber no longer has to pay for an SMS plan.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 6 October 2011 14:18 (nine years ago) link
this blog is a diff color rite now
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 22:47 (nine years ago) link
did he go to dark gray in mourning
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 22:48 (nine years ago) link
hard to read bro
really on a roll with the glib, breathtakingly thick, arrogant posts at the moment! go john!
― caek, Thursday, 13 October 2011 14:59 (nine years ago) link
Most revealing line of his 4S review:
I asked for and received a Sprint model from Apple for testing, so that I could compare it against AT&T and Verizon.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:19 (nine years ago) link
I'd assume (hope) that he returned it when done?
― avant-garde heterosexuals (mh), Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:20 (nine years ago) link
I love how Baig, Pogue, and Mossberg get review units before everyone else, and race to publish their reviews. Where by “love” I of course mean “hate”.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:20 (nine years ago) link
I’m not sure why this has erupted into such a little blog publishing world scandal. It’s certainly wrong for someone to accept one of these machines and then write about it without disclosing that it was a gift (or a review unit, or whatever you want to call it), but I don’t get why some people are so up in arms about Microsoft giving them out in the first place.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:23 (nine years ago) link
tbf i think 'Where by “love” I of course mean “hate”.' is a horribly formed joke about jealousy, rather than him thinking it is wrong in principle to review stuff you haven't bought.
don't get me wrong though, he's still a terrible person.
― caek, Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:24 (nine years ago) link
Grubes has stated multiple times that he always returns his review units.
― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:25 (nine years ago) link
http://twitter.com/AmyJane/status/128319587161882624
― James Mitchell, Monday, 24 October 2011 08:33 (nine years ago) link
haha
― ice cr?m, Monday, 24 October 2011 15:34 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/#!/AmyJane/status/124281963875024896
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Monday, 24 October 2011 15:35 (nine years ago) link
oh man
― Millsner, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 03:44 (nine years ago) link
indefensible or not, the more he descends into (unintentional) self-parody, the more entertaining I find him
― Millsner, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 03:45 (nine years ago) link
October 20th:
The fields aren’t new, but their usefulness for Siri is.
October 24th:
Yeah, seems like a nice idea to use these fields to aid Siri, but it’s not what they’re there for.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 04:47 (nine years ago) link
damning, just damning
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 04:51 (nine years ago) link
this post i feel like is top level gruber self regard http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/10/26/human-rationality
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:28 (nine years ago) link
whoa
i dont even
― caek, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:30 (nine years ago) link
wait, who actually believes that humans are rational thinking machines...?
― dayo, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:34 (nine years ago) link
1. economists2. other people3. jon gruber (himself only, not the other humans)
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:36 (nine years ago) link
Daniel Kahneman is p interesting, was just looking to see if he was on twitter before i found that gruber post
Think this is a good thread for these guys:
http://www.marco.org/2011/10/27/double-dipping-ads-in-ipad-magazineshttp://brooksreview.net/2011/10/grannell-magazines/
Enjoy your $100 per issue magazine subscriptions, everyone.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 28 October 2011 15:32 (nine years ago) link
sheesh
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 28 October 2011 16:00 (nine years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/11/09/get-to-work
― markers, Thursday, 10 November 2011 15:12 (nine years ago) link
yeah grubbie's on a roll with this flash news
― sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Thursday, 10 November 2011 16:56 (nine years ago) link
Nothing further to say on the matter.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:54 (nine years ago) link
to be fair, they don't really use quicktime for non-video content anymore!
― mh, Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:55 (nine years ago) link
http://vimeo.com/31926572
YAY!!!
― markers, Sunday, 13 November 2011 20:35 (nine years ago) link
. . .
he doesn't know what the word "disinterested" means
― caek, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 19:05 (nine years ago) link
btw i love john siracusa
― markers, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 19:16 (nine years ago) link
otm
― caek, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 19:23 (nine years ago) link
people who do apple podcasts really don't know how to speak, eh
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 20:10 (nine years ago) link
which podcasts are you referring to yo
― markers, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 00:24 (nine years ago) link
http://5by5.tv/hypercritical/42
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 13:48 (nine years ago) link
loved that episode and he totally knows how to speak tbh!!!
― markers, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:21 (nine years ago) link
Congratulations to the Tories.
― sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:25 (nine years ago) link
― markers, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:26 (nine years ago) link
this is the first interesting point i've seen him make in about 6 months http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/11/14/microsoft-admosphere
― caek, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:42 (nine years ago) link
It's like Roger Ebert posting about how he's just noticed that 20th Century Fox in is competion with Warner Bros.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:51 (nine years ago) link
i wasn't being sarcastic, i think it's actually a good observation.
― caek, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 15:12 (nine years ago) link
May sound funny coming from a typography-obsessive whose website has
lolll armchair typographer gruber is still my favorite
― sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:33 (nine years ago) link
Truly funny spoof from College Humor.
★
― caek, Friday, 18 November 2011 22:02 (nine years ago) link
It has been approved, it is objectively funny
― ice cr?m, Friday, 18 November 2011 22:04 (nine years ago) link
hahaha
― sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Friday, 18 November 2011 22:15 (nine years ago) link
the best part of his keynote video was seeing his Field Notes notebook in the back pocket of his dad jeans
― sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Friday, 18 November 2011 22:17 (nine years ago) link
http://9to5mac.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/siri-for-android-clones.png?w=657
Nevermind the Siri rip-off, what makes this so very Android is all that junk in the status bar in the screenshots.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 05:38 (nine years ago) link
To be fair I think he's referring to all the icons right at the top.
― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 05:42 (nine years ago) link
um yeah
― caek, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:11 (nine years ago) link
— but to me, Roboto is just the new Arial.
never change~~
― jung money (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:21 (nine years ago) link
rolling in the nuggets
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 10:12 (nine years ago) link
john-gruber-closet-reader-of-pbfluids.html
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 10:41 (nine years ago) link
http://mattgemmell.com/2012/01/03/comments-still-off/
lol how many more articles about this subject do we need from these clowns
― jung money (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 16:08 (nine years ago) link
But we’re talking about a personal blog, which isn’t a democracy - and furthermore, which amongst other things is a portfolio and a principal branding opportunity for the author.
*makes a jerking off motion with hand*
― jung money (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 16:10 (nine years ago) link
http://mattgemmell.com/images/readandtrust/badge1.png
Love all these guys who hang on Gruber's every pithy comment and link to the same shit as him.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 16:59 (nine years ago) link
wow. i thought they were just loosely affiliated; didnt know there was a federation. huge lols at this: http://readandtrust.com/newsletter.php
For just $5 each month, you'll get a weekly, long-form article from one of the many talented writers in the Read & Trust Network. Sign up today to make sure you don't miss one bit of exclusive, high-quality content.Upcoming Monthly Topics:* Favorite Tech Device* Favorite Author* Favorite Service* Resolutions* What's on My Bookshelf* Heroes
Upcoming Monthly Topics:* Favorite Tech Device* Favorite Author* Favorite Service* Resolutions* What's on My Bookshelf* Heroes
― jung money (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:17 (nine years ago) link
the giveaway for these guys is if they have a page labelled "colophon".
― joe, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:18 (nine years ago) link
wait for only $5 i get an atrticle on FAV TECH DEVICE omg this is unavailable on the internet anywhere
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:24 (nine years ago) link
from the people who brought you "the new yorker is too expensive and shouldn't have ads on ipad": what's on my bookshelf?
― joe, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:29 (nine years ago) link
Favorite Tech Device: iphoneFavorite Author: david foster wallaceFavorite Service: instapaperResolutions: infinite summerWhat's on My Bookshelf: david foster wallaceHeroes: david foster wallace
― jung money (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:34 (nine years ago) link
some books about stanley kubrick and a beacon, a yardstick
― caek, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:35 (nine years ago) link
you know kingsley amis categorized misusers of english of english as either berks or wankers. gruber is definitely a wanker.
― caek, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:36 (nine years ago) link
edward tufte's the visual display of quantitative information, field notes notebook for each month
― jung money (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:38 (nine years ago) link
lol wut is read & trust idgi
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:43 (nine years ago) link
read & trust is committed to gathering together the best independent writers available—the ones recommended by the writers you read and trust.
― jung money (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:44 (nine years ago) link
I offer the same service, except I prevaricate a little
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:46 (nine years ago) link
Like, I gather the best independent writers available - in a giant basket - but I'm not totally committed to it. I might stop, I dunno
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:48 (nine years ago) link
id pay like $3 a month for that
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:48 (nine years ago) link
Sold
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:49 (nine years ago) link
I guess
should i just wait here
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:50 (nine years ago) link
vdqi is a legitimately great book, don't let the helvetica fans put you off.
― caek, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:57 (nine years ago) link
otm. Tufte's sans of choice is the notoriously weird Gill Sans anyway.
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:58 (nine years ago) link
totes, i have the one w/the dog on the cover too
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:58 (nine years ago) link
the giveaway for these guys is if they have a page labelled "colophon".― joe
― joe
hahahaha
― markers, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:43 (nine years ago) link
Can we make an ILX "Classic & Dud" readers' network?
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:45 (nine years ago) link
you have to pay 51 cents a day to have access 2 it
― markers, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:47 (nine years ago) link
and you need a colophon
Better title would be "Suggest & Ban".
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:52 (nine years ago) link
you need to say "bullshit" at least once per newsletter too
― markers, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:53 (nine years ago) link
maybe include the phrase "coffee nerd"
sorry to break the lolz momentum but "vdqi"?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:54 (nine years ago) link
― jung money (diamonddave85), Wednesday, January 4, 2012 12:38 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:55 (nine years ago) link
http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/books_vdqi
― markers, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:55 (nine years ago) link
Subscribe now to the Suggest & Ban network for access to a new 90 minute documentary about the classic typography, simple lay-out and beautiful design of the timeless Style2.css.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:57 (nine years ago) link
hah
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:04 (nine years ago) link
Join Dan Benjamin for our podcast, where we talk about the previous episode of our podcast!
― stet, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:25 (nine years ago) link
Meanwhile:
Installs: 1 - 5
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:00 (nine years ago) link
XD
― markers, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:05 (nine years ago) link
Wonder if Marco's sudden anti-comments stance has anything to do with the shitty, unfriendly beautiful, simple new "blogging platform" he's developed? It doesn't yet support commenting, natch.
It's so beautiful and simple, all you have to do is download it from github, extract it to your server, edit the config.php file, and Zzzzzzz
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:04 (nine years ago) link
i still haven't read most of siracusa's lion review, but hypercritical owns
― markers, Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:27 (nine years ago) link
This week’s episode of America’s favorite David Foster Wallace podcast, The Talk Show. Topics include their favorite tech devices, authors and services, new years resolutions, whats on their bookshelves, and heroes. Brought to you by the fine folks at Beacon Yardsticks.
― jung money (diamonddave85), Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:29 (nine years ago) link
xxp would be funny to fork marco's blog engine to add comment support
― jung money (diamonddave85), Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:32 (nine years ago) link
There was a good bit on either this week or last week's Talk Show where Gruber claims to have only ever used PayPal once.
http://daringfireball.net/members/
Oh.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:41 (nine years ago) link
http://www.loopinsight.com/2012/01/05/11-things-rim-did-right-in-2011/
― markers, Thursday, 5 January 2012 21:06 (nine years ago) link
http://www.bynkii.com/archives/2012/01/one_minor_point_on_the_comment.html
― stet, Thursday, 5 January 2012 21:58 (nine years ago) link
(bynkii also indefensible, but it's nice to see them all fighting)
Not sure if bynkii.com is a site I can read & trust.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 5 January 2012 22:12 (nine years ago) link
I mean comments on blogs are also more or less indefensible imo so it's just one big indefensible charlie foxtrot
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Thursday, 5 January 2012 22:41 (nine years ago) link
I care only about quality and control of every single beacon and yardstick.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:57 (nine years ago) link
A few things about this dialog bothered me, as a developer:
― James Mitchell, Friday, 6 January 2012 20:27 (nine years ago) link
hahaha i have that article open in a tab right now but it's too long :-(
― markers, Friday, 6 January 2012 20:52 (nine years ago) link
omg
The use of “their” to refer to the singular “publisher”.^^ English pedants hate this but it's reasonably acceptable according to some style guides
as for the "zip code" versus "ZIP code" thing, I had no idea it was supposed to be an acronym and I don't think common usage is as such anymore? Last I checked, LASER is no longer required to be in all caps either
― mh, Friday, 6 January 2012 21:22 (nine years ago) link
pretending that there is a universal style guide is disgusting savagery imo
― bob loblaw people (dayo), Friday, 6 January 2012 21:32 (nine years ago) link
http://www.loopinsight.com/2012/01/09/definition-of-a-tech-migraine/
― markers, Monday, 9 January 2012 19:23 (nine years ago) link
Love how Gruber has taken the @parislemon trend for referring to Google+ as "horseshit" and has brought his expertise and knowledge to the fore left his mark on technology journalism changed "horseshit" to "bullshit".
Truly a beacon, a yardstick for our times.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 12 January 2012 07:32 (nine years ago) link
I honestly don’t know what’s worse: if Google is so institutionally delusional that they actually believe this isn’t giving Google Plus a tremendous advantage (fair or unfair) over every other social network in the world, or if Google thinks so poorly of everyone outside the company that they think anyone is actually going to buy this line of bullshit. The best case scenario for Google is that Eric Schmidt, in his new role as chairman, has turned into a loose cannon who should just shut the fuck up.
One idea: Apple could add a “Ping” tab to each of the store-related iOS apps — iTunes, iBooks, and App Store. Another idea: Apple could break Ping out into its own standalone app, and allow this app to make purchases of any sort of iTunes Store content. I like the second idea much better, at a glance. But perhaps it’d make sense to have dedicated Ping tabs in each app — you might want to follow different people for music recommendations than apps and books.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 12 January 2012 07:37 (nine years ago) link
ha
― lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2012 17:33 (nine years ago) link
btw gruber, sielger, 65% market share does not constitute monopoly
― lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2012 17:37 (nine years ago) link
The best case scenario for Google is that Eric Schmidt, in his new role as chairman, has turned into a loose cannon who should just shut the fuck up.
this sentence truly serves as a beacon, a yardstick for good and reasoned writing
― bob loblaw people (dayo), Thursday, 12 January 2012 18:11 (nine years ago) link
speaking of bullshit, i found this quote from sub-gruber read&truster to be particularly terrible writing:
It’s hard to breathe during this 20-minute interview of David Steel, Executive Vice President of Strategy for Samsung North America due to all the bullshit in the air.
― pat methamphetamine (diamonddave85), Thursday, 12 January 2012 19:52 (nine years ago) link
people who call bullshit on everything all the time are the worst
― lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2012 22:12 (nine years ago) link
They will never be short of work. Ah hurr hurr.
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Friday, 13 January 2012 01:40 (nine years ago) link
Don't ever accuse Gruber of not posting bad news about Apple five days after the rest of the internet. He's risking his iPhone 5 review unit and who wouldn't want him to lose out on such a major blogging exclusive?
― James Mitchell, Friday, 13 January 2012 10:19 (nine years ago) link
@marco's beautiful, simple solution to the iPhone's mute-switch behavior:
The user told the iPhone to make noise by either scheduling an alarm or initiating an obviously noise-playing feature in an app.The user also told the iPhone to be silent with the switch on the side.The user has issued conflicting commands, and the iPhone can’t obey both.It’s a typical design problem: it can’t be heavy and light and big and small. Neither decision will satisfy everyone all the time or cover every edge case: if Apple implemented Mute in Ihnatko’s preferred way, millions of people would be just as irritated when their scheduled alarms didn’t wake them up.When implementing the Mute switch, Apple had to decide which of a user’s conflicting commands to obey, and they chose the behavior that they believed would make sense to the most people in the most situations.That’s good design.
The user also told the iPhone to be silent with the switch on the side.
The user has issued conflicting commands, and the iPhone can’t obey both.
It’s a typical design problem: it can’t be heavy and light and big and small. Neither decision will satisfy everyone all the time or cover every edge case: if Apple implemented Mute in Ihnatko’s preferred way, millions of people would be just as irritated when their scheduled alarms didn’t wake them up.
When implementing the Mute switch, Apple had to decide which of a user’s conflicting commands to obey, and they chose the behavior that they believed would make sense to the most people in the most situations.
That’s good design.
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 15 January 2012 10:57 (nine years ago) link
Nah Gruber is right, that's mish. Most of the time when I switch to mute i'm not even looking at at the screen. An alarm that can be accidentally set to silent mode is stupid.
I'm not sure I believe Mr "my alarm accidentally got set for the middle of the show".
― stet, Sunday, 15 January 2012 11:59 (nine years ago) link
apparently he had just been given that phone from his work a day before or something? so he probably thought mute meant mute
― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:08 (nine years ago) link
which apparently it doesn't on the iphone
― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:09 (nine years ago) link
seems dumb to me but i haven't thought it through really
this is the worst debate in the world and if you have an opinion about it then you are hurting the blogosphere
― caek, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:09 (nine years ago) link
lol jokes
― caek, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:10 (nine years ago) link
What do you mean? There are pages upon pages of blog posts on iPhone mute behavior to spend hours and hours reading & trusting:
http://www.marco.org/2012/01/14/mutehttp://daringfireball.net/2012/01/iphone_mute_switch_designhttp://52tiger.net/on-the-behavior-of-the-iphone-mute-switch-ringing-vs-tone-alerts-and-overall-iphone-sound-design/http://www.biancolo.com/articles/bad-ui-stops-symphonyhttp://brooksreview.net/2012/01/the-picture-says-it-all/http://ihnatko.com/2012/01/14/daring-fireball-on-the-behavior-of-the-iphone-mute-switch/http://blog.erikphansen.com/mute-switch-madness
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:25 (nine years ago) link
oh lord
― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:29 (nine years ago) link
colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon colopohon
should've checked to see if i were spelling the word correctly before repeating it a million times, but oh well
― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:30 (nine years ago) link
I replaced my colopohon (so 2005) with an Instapaper reading list.
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:34 (nine years ago) link
rip
― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:48 (nine years ago) link
i use the Mute Switch Debate as a yardstick
― stet, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:08 (nine years ago) link
i use it as a dick beacon
― caek, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:30 (nine years ago) link
i read u, but i don't know if i trust u
― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:32 (nine years ago) link
I leave my phone on mute overnight but set an alarm for the morning to wake up? Seems pretty common.
― mh, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:34 (nine years ago) link
i don't have an iphone, but i live my phone on all night because i assume if someone's gonna call me really late it's an emergency and if it's not i can just tell them they're a fucking idiot
― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:37 (nine years ago) link
You have a phone that's not going to receive push notifications and email all night though, right?
― mh, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:41 (nine years ago) link
yeah, i have some lg flip phone piece of shit from 2009. i'm sure what i do wouldn't work for everyone, but it works for me. when i get an iphone i'll probably do the same thing i do now, except i'll also shut off most of the push notifications and other annoying shit
― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:49 (nine years ago) link
i also shut sms off over two years ago, so i don't really have that to worry about -- no more 3 am text messages from friends who are in a bar in another country! rip
― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:50 (nine years ago) link
why did you shut off sms
― dayo, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:51 (nine years ago) link
imo if you have enough time to post on ilx then you don't really need push notifications enabled
― caek, Sunday, 15 January 2012 15:51 (nine years ago) link
phones are these things you do web browsing on and check apps and send text messages on, and very rarely use the antiquated "voice call" feature
― mh, Sunday, 15 January 2012 16:00 (nine years ago) link
― markers, Sunday, 15 January 2012 16:04 (nine years ago) link
i do own an ipod touch tbh
http://www.loopinsight.com/2012/01/22/rim-co-ceos-to-step-down/
― markers, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 03:12 (nine years ago) link
i'm not sure you understand this thread
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:13 (nine years ago) link
― caek, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:24 (nine years ago) link
beyond parody
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:28 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/4C1af.png
― ☂ʊηε✏ƴ@яḓṧ, ẘ♄øк☤ʟʟ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 14:56 (nine years ago) link
In December, however, seven months after the blast that killed Mr. Lai, another iPad factory exploded, this one in Shanghai. Once again, aluminum dust was the cause, according to interviews and Apple’s most recent supplier responsibility report. That blast injured 59 workers, with 23 hospitalized. “It is gross negligence, after an explosion occurs, not to realize that every factory should be inspected,” said Nicholas Ashford, the occupational safety expert, who is now at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. “If it were terribly difficult to deal with aluminum dust, I would understand. But do you know how easy dust is to control? It’s called ventilation. We solved this problem over a century ago.”
“It is gross negligence, after an explosion occurs, not to realize that every factory should be inspected,” said Nicholas Ashford, the occupational safety expert, who is now at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. “If it were terribly difficult to deal with aluminum dust, I would understand. But do you know how easy dust is to control? It’s called ventilation. We solved this problem over a century ago.”
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 26 January 2012 14:29 (nine years ago) link
4:00 – 4:50 PM: The State of AppleMacworld’s Jason Snell, Andy Ihnatko, and John Gruber discuss where the new, Tim Cook-led Apple will go in 2012 and beyond.
Macworld’s Jason Snell, Andy Ihnatko, and John Gruber discuss where the new, Tim Cook-led Apple will go in 2012 and beyond.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 26 January 2012 20:38 (nine years ago) link
Macworld? is that like the WWDC but also gay?
― ☂⋒ﬡᙓ-૪ᗩᖇᖙᔕ - ᙡ ᖺ ᗝ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 26 January 2012 20:49 (nine years ago) link
he's on http://www.macworld.com/
― markers, Friday, 27 January 2012 00:04 (nine years ago) link
p bad so far
― markers, Friday, 27 January 2012 00:06 (nine years ago) link
Think @marco tried explaining this to Siri and his iPhone blew up.
― James Mitchell, Monday, 30 January 2012 14:24 (nine years ago) link
Marco disagreed with Ben Brooks the other day. Having read, can I now trust? Why are there no yardsticks for this sort of thing?
― stet, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:04 (nine years ago) link
the internet is beaconless, rip, so inelegant
― lag∞n, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:05 (nine years ago) link
I tried searcing Duckduckgo for beacons and yardsticks, and it found nothing.
― James Mitchell, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:13 (nine years ago) link
lol braces http://brooksreview.net/colophon/
― stet, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:16 (nine years ago) link
More like the Brooks Brother Review amirite?
"I own stock in UPS, Microsoft, Abercrombie & Fitch, Oracle."
― James Mitchell, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:19 (nine years ago) link
*Brothers*
Great ad on his site too: "This week's sponsor is Déjà Vu - Your visual memory. An iPhone app to snap pictures of things you want to remember."
― James Mitchell, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:20 (nine years ago) link
Haha, poor guy couldn't even get the Deck to advertise on his site, had to settle for the cheap knockoff
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Monday, 30 January 2012 15:22 (nine years ago) link
I think my 2012 goal is going to be to spend a handful of hours every week trying to understand how others perceive me, so that I may not turn into these guys
― mh, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:22 (nine years ago) link
http://brooksreview.s3.amazonaws.com/headshot_small.jpeg
charles in charge of our beacons and our yardsticks
― lag∞n, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:23 (nine years ago) link
Also his colophon is not even a proper colophon
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Monday, 30 January 2012 15:24 (nine years ago) link
needs to be screened for colophon cancer
― mh, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:26 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYUOwrPxxlk
― markers, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:31 (nine years ago) link
Cool Guys Today
― ☂⋒ﬡᙓ-૪ᗩᖇᖙᔕ - ᙡ ᖺ ᗝ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Monday, 30 January 2012 15:33 (nine years ago) link
Speaking of Ben Brooks, he has a credo.
― ☂⋒ﬡᙓ-૪ᗩᖇᖙᔕ - ᙡ ᖺ ᗝ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Monday, 30 January 2012 15:34 (nine years ago) link
When he says"Readability is of utmost importance."
do u think he means the concept or the web/app? makes u think
― mh, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:37 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXvmSaE0JXA
― markers, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:38 (nine years ago) link
I can't visit youtube at work, markers :(
― mh, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:38 (nine years ago) link
it's kesha -- "we r who we r"
― markers, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:49 (nine years ago) link
first video was 4 of these dudes @ macworld
tbh I'd probably rather watch kesha
― mh, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:55 (nine years ago) link
Sweet found a message board this morning full of people hating on me. Two notes though: 1. I don't have braces. 2. A message board? Really?
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:28 (nine years ago) link
o wait, the more elegant term is suspenders, right?
― stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:34 (nine years ago) link
he thought u meant TEETH BRACES lmao
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:35 (nine years ago) link
note the use of 'have' not 'wear'
and no link smh
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:36 (nine years ago) link
http://i.minus.com/iqAkwkwXNI9Pb.png
― caek, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:36 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/#!/BenjaminBrooks/status/164029312759111681
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:37 (nine years ago) link
all is forgiven
Can understand why this guy hates Google so much if he keeps checking Analytics to find people like us laughing at him.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:38 (nine years ago) link
tbf this is prob the first time anyone has bothered to lol @ him
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:39 (nine years ago) link
Thought he was a leading member of the Point & Lol Network?
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:40 (nine years ago) link
idk!
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:42 (nine years ago) link
he has a small time vibe to him
2500 twitter followers ehhh
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:43 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/#!/DLin71/status/164040994055127041
― markers, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:44 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/#!/hrbrt/status/164029785444597761
ha!
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:45 (nine years ago) link
im now referring to his orthodontix
― ≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:46 (nine years ago) link
a blog, really? etc
― stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:47 (nine years ago) link
i bet he has purple rubber bands to match his suspenders
― ≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:47 (nine years ago) link
dear blogg bro wut is twtr ty in advance
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:47 (nine years ago) link
i checked our analytics; someone said we had a "cobbled-together appearance".
win3.11 4lyfe, hater.
― stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:49 (nine years ago) link
damn what an unchill criticism
― markers, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:50 (nine years ago) link
the god gruber would never stoop to our level, this brooks guy needs to heed lessons
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:50 (nine years ago) link
i don't even understand who or what this thread is about tbh
you win, mr brooks, whatever you are
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:51 (nine years ago) link
^THATS how its done
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:52 (nine years ago) link
hey ben brooks if 'Readability is of utmost importance' what the heck is going on here:
http://i.imgur.com/A6bLV.png
― ≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:52 (nine years ago) link
this thread is about elegance
― stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:52 (nine years ago) link
I only found his twitter post randomly on Stellar.io. Dude is stuck in 2011.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:52 (nine years ago) link
would dearly love to read criticsm of ilx by internet tech bods tho
xps or elegance, w/e
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:52 (nine years ago) link
― stet, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:52 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
5000%
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:53 (nine years ago) link
how is this different from hoos' "thread of social media assholes"? bullet points plz
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:55 (nine years ago) link
~yardsticks furiously~
― caek, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:55 (nine years ago) link
― caek, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:56 (nine years ago) link
* 1. - it's more focused on a particular subspecies of social media assholes
― ≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:56 (nine years ago) link
These are social media assholes we read & trust.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:57 (nine years ago) link
its abt the don 'daring fireball' gruber and his point n click posse
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:57 (nine years ago) link
are you in stellar, JM? I had the idea to make sthing like that, so pretty glad Kottke did it and I can go back to not bothering
xp does Hoos's thread have Helvetica?
― stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:57 (nine years ago) link
http://daringfireball.nethttp://readandtrust.com
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:58 (nine years ago) link
its abt elegance basically
and helvetica, the most elegant of fonts
a yardstick
a beacon
* I have a serious question. Why spell it fanboi? Is that like fanboy but also gay?
― ≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:58 (nine years ago) link
its abt a lot of things
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:59 (nine years ago) link
i feel like gruber's fanboi post is too perfect, it has to be a troll
― ≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:59 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIy3n2b7V9k
― markers, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:01 (nine years ago) link
is that like skater but also 8?
― ≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:02 (nine years ago) link
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:38 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark
you could say... that google analytics... used in this way... is like ... a beacon
*bows head, ponders weightily*
― dayo, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:09 (nine years ago) link
Stellar is great, yes. Really needs the ability to find your friends, though. I'm just following a bunch of randoms and it's worrying how often people favorite Gruber's stuff.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:31 (nine years ago) link
well they prob just read and then trusted him
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:33 (nine years ago) link
Can I hav an invite? Will pay in trinkets and gewgaws
― stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:45 (nine years ago) link
jm, what are they favoriting? his tweets?
― markers, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:46 (nine years ago) link
can you favorite a blog post? idk the internet is complicated
Can send an invite to the email on your user profile. Only got one left, though.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:25 (nine years ago) link
Gruber's page is here: http://stellar.io/gruber/bestof
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:26 (nine years ago) link
would also love stellar invite if anyone has any spare left
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:27 (nine years ago) link
Yes please, thx! I will give it back to you when I get some.
― stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:28 (nine years ago) link
where would i find the invites if i had any on my acct?
― ≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:28 (nine years ago) link
http://stellar.io/x/invite/friends ?
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:29 (nine years ago) link
i guess i dont have any invites
― ≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:31 (nine years ago) link
You don’t see many executives trading up from CEO of one company to senior vice president of another. That Browett is from Europe is a pretty good signal that international expansion is a top priority for Apple retail.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 05:41 (nine years ago) link
Gruber's work serves as a lone wolf, a standard bearer, for my own:
Writers like John Gruber and podcasters like Dan Benjamin have gone from being lone wolfs to standard bearers.
John Gruber, Dan Benjamin, Marco Arment, Horace Dediu, all of these people are setting a very high standard for this community, and it’s not just in the level of professionalism they show in their work: it’s also how much they care about what they do and take pride in it. If you read Daring Fireball, listen to Dan’s shows on 5by5, or use Instapaper, there’s no doubt they really love to do what they’re doing.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:36 (nine years ago) link
wolfs?
― lukas, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:02 (nine years ago) link
Sit & Browse vs Stand & Purchase.
― James Mitchell, Monday, 6 February 2012 09:12 (nine years ago) link
In one you have the clean minimalist designs that Apple is long famous for. Whites walls, blonde wood tables all designed to accompany and highlight the brushed aluminum iDevices for sale within.
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 13:52 (nine years ago) link
i'm sitting in a chair rite now
― markers, Monday, 6 February 2012 14:09 (nine years ago) link
markers, are the walls whites
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Monday, 6 February 2012 14:10 (nine years ago) link
one of the terrible things about these gruber accolytes is how it takes them 2000 words to say something that deserves, at most, two tweets.
― caek, Monday, 6 February 2012 14:13 (nine years ago) link
xpost yes!
― markers, Monday, 6 February 2012 14:13 (nine years ago) link
maybe microsoft just wants you to be comfortable and apple wants you to buy stuff and gtfo
― markers, Monday, 6 February 2012 14:14 (nine years ago) link
maybe i'll bring my own chair to the apple store next time i go
― markers, Monday, 6 February 2012 14:23 (nine years ago) link
All my trendo programmer friends are changing to standing desks, perhaps Apple is just anticipating this trend
― mh, Monday, 6 February 2012 14:27 (nine years ago) link
Why by the laptop when you can have the surfing for free?
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Monday, 6 February 2012 14:30 (nine years ago) link
^ readability
brodie edited the article
― markers, Monday, 6 February 2012 14:34 (nine years ago) link
A review from the Prog & Rock Network.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 14:26 (nine years ago) link
Progressive rock rose to prominence in the 1960s and 70s as a way of elevating rock music to a new level of artistic merit.
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:41 (nine years ago) link
http://whowritesforyou.com/category/writing/writingassignment/
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:45 (nine years ago) link
Writing assignment: read all the fucking time you fucking fuck.
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:48 (nine years ago) link
I’ve been following the recent articles and reports on Apple and manufacturing in China. I’ve heard some ugly terms thrown about, including “slavery.” If true, it’s shocking and disappointing. But I fear that it is a mix of hyperbole, cultural differences, and yes, some worker abuses. Apple appears to be doing the right things to [...]
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:57 (nine years ago) link
lot of these dudes have real sticks up their asses about being "professional writers" eh
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:10 (nine years ago) link
its funny because they just have blogs
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:14 (nine years ago) link
http://vimeo.com/36051004
― markers, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:30 (nine years ago) link
``standing here at my standing desk''
― radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:37 (nine years ago) link
Do workers in Foxconn factories who build products for Apple, Dell, HP, and others, work long hours at tedious tasks? Yes they do. Do they work for a fraction of what a worker in the US, Japan, or even Korea would? Yes they do?
Are they being enslaved? Clearly, they are not.
welp, glad we cleared that up!
― scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:07 (nine years ago) link
its not slavery guys, keep downloading!
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:09 (nine years ago) link
Since a grandmother at home dealt with child rearing and the household management, the workers didn’t seem stressed by the work requirements or complain.
― scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:16 (nine years ago) link
keep downloading those iphones guys!
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:25 (nine years ago) link
u need to read&trust bro
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:42 (nine years ago) link
it is only by completing writing assignments that you can become a beacon, a yardstick
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:53 (nine years ago) link
http://twitter.com/#!/Digeratii/status/165324320179109888/photo/1/large
― markers, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:01 (nine years ago) link
"disappointing" is the professional's choice of words to describe slavery
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:59 (nine years ago) link
what is this thread even about any more
reading&trusting
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:00 (nine years ago) link
bullshit
― markers, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:06 (nine years ago) link
beacons&yardsticks
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:07 (nine years ago) link
kubrick&stones
steve&jobs
fugees&funyons
― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:32 (nine years ago) link
braces&suspenders
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:32 (nine years ago) link
helvetica
― caek, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:54 (nine years ago) link
colophons!
― jerk with enough manpower (shaane), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:29 (nine years ago) link
Marco & Path: not entirely sure what the difference is, except that we all read & trust @marco.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 07:03 (nine years ago) link
this is actually real talk:http://www.marco.org/2012/02/04/fixing-previous-track
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 February 2012 07:05 (nine years ago) link
still have a lot of time for marco and his quietly unassuming proggy nerdiness
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 9 February 2012 08:36 (nine years ago) link
My favorite iPhone Twitter client is now available for the iPad too. I’ve been using for a few weeks and it’s just terrific. I love it.
every single time there's a big new ios app release, he makes sure to let everyone know that he's already been using it for weeks
― radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:29 (nine years ago) link
hey guys did you know that I run a popular apple-centric blog, and that application developers find me to be a good target for promotional beta releases? now you do!
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:31 (nine years ago) link
I remember being young and thinking that it'd be cool to be in a position where people would send me unreleased products to review. Then I got old and realized that beta testing other people's shit is horrible.
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:32 (nine years ago) link
I love Tweetbot and iOs for the simplicity and beautifulness of the triple-tap gesture.
I wonder if Gruber is beta testing the version with quadruple-taps.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:39 (nine years ago) link
I have two twitter apps on iPhone and I've been swapping between them with no clear fave. tweetbot 2.0 is kinda nice, though
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:42 (nine years ago) link
i caved and got tweetbot when it went on sale and i like it so much more than any other one i've used, it's just like... enjoyable
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:51 (nine years ago) link
i just wish the interface was more elegant
― stet, Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:56 (nine years ago) link
twittelator neue is pretty but is still a lil buggy and feature incomplete
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:16 (nine years ago) link
not empathetic enough
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:17 (nine years ago) link
"twittelator neue"
― markers, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:19 (nine years ago) link
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:19 (nine years ago) link
can't believe you guys aren't using twilvetica!
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:20 (nine years ago) link
nm it's not out yet
speaking of fonts: http://www.marco.org/2012/01/13/helvetica-kettle
― markers, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:20 (nine years ago) link
shows disturbing signs of self awareness
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:22 (nine years ago) link
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9627011/photos/facepalm.gif
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:24 (nine years ago) link
How did I miss Gruber posting this on his blog?
Oh, he didn't.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:29 (nine years ago) link
Hear that noise? That’s Violet Blue backpedalling… ★
― radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:31 (nine years ago) link
oh jesus
The overreacting/woman-protection racket going on from Gruber's corner, masquerading as being in-touch with feminist concerns or being somehow more sympathetic, is gross. Someone found the name of a woman at the company and he ran with it, which is... what, all women are the same and you found the name of the one woman who worked for them, no way are there two of them?
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:41 (nine years ago) link
There are, after all, too many millions of different models of woman. The development team should take a leaf out of Apple's book and slim down the product line offering to perhaps only two or three designs, each to fulfill the varying functions as needed by the user. This approach could soon see a rapid change in the market, with the adoption rate of women (in my suggested wifi, 8gb and 16gb variations) bringing women to the forefront of the post-PC world.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:53 (nine years ago) link
on the contrary, that woman is a beacon, a yardstick for all other women
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:27 (nine years ago) link
http://www.70decibels.com/thepenaddict/
― markers, Friday, 10 February 2012 00:27 (nine years ago) link
defensible in concept, jus guys bein nerdy baout pens
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Friday, 10 February 2012 02:59 (nine years ago) link
Almost before you could stop throwing up in your mouth at the idea of Michael Arrington accusing a Times journalist of being less than noble, Arrington’s partner at CrunchFund, MG Siegler, weighed in with his own attack in which he basically said Bilton is a nice guy who was either too lazy or too busy to do a good job. From this Siegler leaps off into a long diatribe about how most tech reporting is utter bullshit written by idiots who are all in a hurry to chase page views.So: Path comes under fire, and straight away, the paid hit men – Arrington and his sidekick, Matty the Angry Chihuahua — spring into action to smear Bilton and try to discredit him.I’ll give them this much. They’re good at what they do. Siegler especially is a nasty little ankle-biter who has developed some level of expertise in launching ad hominem attacks. He did one on me a while back. Then he did one on Josh Topolsky at The Verge.Now it’s Nick Bilton’s turn.
So: Path comes under fire, and straight away, the paid hit men – Arrington and his sidekick, Matty the Angry Chihuahua — spring into action to smear Bilton and try to discredit him.
I’ll give them this much. They’re good at what they do. Siegler especially is a nasty little ankle-biter who has developed some level of expertise in launching ad hominem attacks. He did one on me a while back. Then he did one on Josh Topolsky at The Verge.
Now it’s Nick Bilton’s turn.
Great response here from the man who's not afraid to type the word 'bullshit':
Looks like someone woke up from his nap of the last three years and is hungry. Sadly, I don’t have much food for him. I’ll keep this as brief as possible — and I promise this will be the last thing I ever say about Dan Lyons, as he’s clearly done.Feel free not to read. Or read Michael Arrington’s post on the matter. He takes a higher road than I’m about to. I’m just sick of Lyons’ bullshit.
Feel free not to read. Or read Michael Arrington’s post on the matter. He takes a higher road than I’m about to. I’m just sick of Lyons’ bullshit.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 05:41 (nine years ago) link
i have lost all ability to discern sarcasm in this thread. That wasn't a great response to me, just point-avoiding ad homs from a corrupt would-be hack.
― stet, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 08:21 (nine years ago) link
Definitely sarcasm.
Big fan of http://mgsieglermeme.tumblr.com, though.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 08:32 (nine years ago) link
yeah anyone who defends siegler or arrington on this should be banned from ilx and thrown into the ocean
― max, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:30 (nine years ago) link
But she’s not a very good writer in the pure sense of the word. Both she and Lyons rely on cutesy gimmicks.
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:55 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/nXhCV.png
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:56 (nine years ago) link
m.g. siegler offering a beacon, a yardstick of good tech writing
#1 pet peeve: people who read 'on writing well' or some other chestnut and the only thing they take away is that all. of their sentences. must. be. very. short. that's. what good. writing. is.
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:57 (nine years ago) link
Some WSJ claim chowder.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 13:21 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/zEOaD.png
Times when it's OK to alter your site template: Christmas, Valentine's Day, the death of a multinational CEO.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:26 (nine years ago) link
must have ignored her in favor of the ipad 2 for the last time
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:27 (nine years ago) link
how long did it take him to pick what shade of red to use?
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/02/14/fla
"This is the biggest challenge facing Apple today."
has he actually written anything longer than glib link commentary? guess he's been busy with long form claim chowder : (
― caek, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:39 (nine years ago) link
yeah anyone who defends siegler or arrington on this anything should be banned from ilx and thrown into the ocean
― valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 19:02 (nine years ago) link
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, February 14, 2012 12:26 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
...
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 20:43 (nine years ago) link
I, Too, Love Amy Jane
― radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:48 (nine years ago) link
fuckin guy lovin his fuckin wife...
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:49 (nine years ago) link
i wonder if she checks the site everyday or maybe he had to send her a link
― radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:50 (nine years ago) link
if she's anything like dh she's an rss/instapaper kinda lady. inbox zero. no time to type in urls
― radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:51 (nine years ago) link
Saving it all up to complain about NeXT not being given its due, it looks like!
― carson dial, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 03:34 (nine years ago) link
His wife's twitter account is many times more entertaining than his own.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 06:17 (nine years ago) link
You can get fired up that way, and see my criticism here as condemning Isaacson’s book as total shit, zero stars. That would be a mistake. Steve Jobs is not literature, but it is a good book, but alas with several holes and egregious errors.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 08:01 (nine years ago) link
um, that piece is probably the best thing he's written in a year or two.
― caek, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 10:27 (nine years ago) link
Except his whole premise of "Steve Jobs thought software is more important than hardware" is completely a total shit, zero stars Jobsian-style binary view.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 10:50 (nine years ago) link
and "Apple is an experience company" made me boak, versus something like "Apple is a product company" which is the truth
― stet, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:19 (nine years ago) link
like, made me think of Apple iBalloon Rides With Your Fiancee
― stet, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:20 (nine years ago) link
Apple uses experiences to sell products, as any Mad Men watcher could tell you.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:23 (nine years ago) link
that's a diff thing from being an experience company, tho
― stet, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:24 (nine years ago) link
"apple is an experience company" is his turgid writing style, yes.
but i am a good-faith zinger, and that was a good piece.
― caek, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:31 (nine years ago) link
basically slocki otm
Agreed. Was def a way better demolition of the Isaacson book than Siracusa managed.
I want to put NextSTEP on my old Thinkpad now, except the guy who installed it for Jobs says it was a total nightmare http://www.nextcomputers.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2209
― stet, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:33 (nine years ago) link
the siracusa thing was just a long, boring list of tiny errors and a couple of unsupported larger, vague arguments
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:52 (nine years ago) link
i recently tried installing OPENSTEP in a VM and couldn't get past the driver selection stuff ):
― radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:50 (nine years ago) link
lol this guy has a hard time enjoying himself, lil uptight http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/02/15/ios-86
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:43 (nine years ago) link
As soon as Schiller told me the name, I silently cursed myself for not having predicted it. Apple is a company of patterns. iPhone 3G, followed by a same-form-factor-but-faster 3GS; iPhone 4 followed by a same-form-factor-but-faster 4S. Leopard followed by Snow Leopard; so, of course: Lion followed by Mountain Lion.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 16 February 2012 14:57 (nine years ago) link
I wonder immediately about that “now”. I don’t press, because I find the question that immediately sprang to mind uncomfortable. And some things remain unchanged: Apple executives explain what they want to explain, and they explain nothing more.
this guy is v strange
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 February 2012 15:10 (nine years ago) link
I’ve been using Mountain Lion for a week, preinstalled on a MacBook Air loaned to me by Apple.
― radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:20 (nine years ago) link
oh my god
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:24 (nine years ago) link
THIS is your FAVORITE FEATURE??
My favorite Mountain Lion feature, though, is one that hardly even has a visible interface. Apple is calling it “Gatekeeper”. It’s a system whereby developers can sign up for free-of-charge Apple developer IDs which they can then use to cryptographically sign their applications. If an app is found to be malware, Apple can revoke that developer’s certificate, rendering the app (along with any others from the same developer) inert on any Mac where it’s been installed. In effect, it offers all the security benefits of the App Store, except for the process of approving apps by Apple. Users have three choices which type of apps can run on Mountain Lion:* Only those from the App Store* Only those from the App Store or which are signed by a developer ID* Any app, whether signed or unsignedThe default for this setting is, I say, exactly right: the one in the middle, disallowing only unsigned apps. This default setting benefits users by increasing practical security, and also benefits developers, preserving the freedom to ship whatever software they want for the Mac, with no approval process.
* Only those from the App Store* Only those from the App Store or which are signed by a developer ID* Any app, whether signed or unsigned
The default for this setting is, I say, exactly right: the one in the middle, disallowing only unsigned apps. This default setting benefits users by increasing practical security, and also benefits developers, preserving the freedom to ship whatever software they want for the Mac, with no approval process.
― radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:28 (nine years ago) link
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:29 (nine years ago) link
Sadly, the punning possibilities of 'mac-gruber' have only just now suggested themselves to me, when surely that meme wave was beaten into the ground by now.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:31 (nine years ago) link
loool
― caek, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:09 (nine years ago) link
software signing is actually not a terrible idea; in fact many linux distributions have cryptographically signed packages using keys that are signed by the distributors. And groobs is on point with his hope that package-signing will make it onto iOS as the platform opens up.
All the work I do on my mac is in the terminal or a web browser anyway so new OS X features rarely mean much to me.
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:11 (nine years ago) link
me too. the last time i upgraded OS X for some reason other than "it came with the new computer" was 10.4.
― caek, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:15 (nine years ago) link
And groobs is on point with his hope that package-signing will make it onto iOS as the platform opens up.
I really, really hope that transpires
― Wub wub wub wubwubwubwub wub Pzzzzzzz WUBB wubwub (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 February 2012 21:57 (nine years ago) link
I knew the Dow was imprecise and rather arbitrary compared to something like the S&P 500, but the more I learn about the Dow the more nonsensical I realize it is.
― James Mitchell, Monday, 20 February 2012 21:44 (nine years ago) link
find a new zing james
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:29 (nine years ago) link
found one
https://twitter.com/#!/totallyslutsky/status/171666559666888705
― caek, Monday, 20 February 2012 22:50 (nine years ago) link
:D
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:54 (nine years ago) link
http://twitter.com/#!/jdalrymple/status/170699109177634816
― markers, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 02:30 (nine years ago) link
http://twitter.com/#!/gruber/status/172054760323690497
― markers, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 21:11 (nine years ago) link
o dammmn
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 21:28 (nine years ago) link
a signpost in life
― valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 21:29 (nine years ago) link
he linked to The Oatmeal today, pretty indefensible imo
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 22:32 (nine years ago) link
ppl on the internet hate everything eh
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 22:51 (nine years ago) link
If your interested in a deep, thoughtful take on the problems Mac developers are running into with sandboxing...
― o _o⃑ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 23:20 (nine years ago) link
2008-2010: I remember when it was unique to see people using a Mac. I remember when people thought my having an iPhone was unique..
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:19 (nine years ago) link
Don't even get the point of writing that other than as a beacon, a yardstick for the guy's impeccable taste.
― Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:26 (nine years ago) link
/tech-thoughts/
― lukas, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:49 (nine years ago) link
My Thoughts About Purple Suspenders Over the Years
― ಠ﹏ಠ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:01 (nine years ago) link
1990-Writing this post: Was I ever capable of dressing myself?
― ಠ﹏ಠ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:04 (nine years ago) link
Best part about his site: the "in partnership with mediatemple" graphic. mediatemple hosts a number of tech/design sites for free, and those sites indicate that somewhere, usually in the footer. This guy is paying for their cheapest plan and still has a big old logo conspicuously displayed at the top of the page.
― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:43 (nine years ago) link
^ actual good zinging
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:14 (nine years ago) link
I have to hand it to mediatemple, their sponsorship has paid off so well that the cargo cult thinks they're making the next hot site just by putting the logo on the side, even if they're still paying for that "privilege"
― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:38 (nine years ago) link
in partnership with angelfire
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:39 (nine years ago) link
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzupz2luBf1qafhi5.jpg
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:58 (nine years ago) link
loooooool xp
― caek, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:36 (nine years ago) link
Incisive, informed content curation.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 05:24 (nine years ago) link
http://twitter.com/#!/daringfireball/status/180424385470021632
― markers, Thursday, 15 March 2012 22:49 (nine years ago) link
i like how he arbitrarily decides to refer to the new ipad as iPad (3)
― faces of geth (diamonddave85), Friday, 16 March 2012 00:31 (nine years ago) link
ya that's awful
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 03:05 (nine years ago) link
Why would he not call it "the 2012 iPad"
Why I ask you
― Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:29 (nine years ago) link
(3)
― faces of geth (diamonddave85), Friday, 16 March 2012 14:57 (nine years ago) link
srsly that shit has to stop. he doesn't call it the MacBook Air (3) or the iMac (14), does he? ffs. I bet he'd drive a Porsche 911, but he wouldn't call it a 911 (7), either.
― stet, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:26 (nine years ago) link
Porsche 911 (Never Forget)
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:26 (nine years ago) link
Get the feeling he'll be eating some serious Mike Daizey claim chowder after this weekend's This American Life.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 16 March 2012 23:00 (nine years ago) link
we all will be, james. we all will be.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 23:17 (nine years ago) link
I guess the iPad (3) is made on a production line of robots and not hand-assembled by poorly-paid Chinese slaves, right?
― James Mitchell, Friday, 16 March 2012 23:27 (nine years ago) link
i guess all chinese workers are 'slaves,' right?
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 23:35 (nine years ago) link
john gruber is awful, i mean really just terrible, worse than paedophiles, but i feel like maybe james overdoes it a bit
― caek, Friday, 16 March 2012 23:55 (nine years ago) link
all im saying.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 23:56 (nine years ago) link
what did br00ks do to his favicon
― markers, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:07 (nine years ago) link
i have hacker news in google reader and the shade of orange they use is fine but whatever shade he picked doesn't look so great
― markers, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:08 (nine years ago) link
what in the hell is wrong with you?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:08 (nine years ago) link
probably should be asking yourself that question
― markers, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:11 (nine years ago) link
this american life mike daisey retraction transcript, p interesting, warning PDF http://podcast.thisamericanlife.org/special/TAL_460_Retraction_Transcript.pdf
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:14 (nine years ago) link
is there a transcript of the original show
― flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:18 (nine years ago) link
the original show is just excerpts from his stage show and apparently you can download the script of that from his website
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:20 (nine years ago) link
Love how all the Read & Trust bloggers are now flying over to China to investigate Foxconn for themselves.
― James Mitchell, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:27 (nine years ago) link
wanted to say something re the tendency to criticize chinese factories as sweatshops, in that its not an accurate characterization of foxconn et al, which is not to say theyre great places to work, just that theyre un great places to work in somewhat different ways than a sweatshop, i found this description from mo tkaciks steve jobs piece compelling
When imagination is off the table, you get coverage like CNN’s Foxconn series, in which CNN interviews a disgruntled Foxconn employee complaining of “dehumanization” and, lacking anything terribly sensational or sordid, asks her if she might be able to quantify that. We learn that the job entails sticking more than 4,000 stickers onto iPads each day.
http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/02/22/the-book-of-steve-jobs-apple
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:31 (nine years ago) link
kind of amazing this is a guy who makes his living via public speaking and has no idea how poorly hes coming off
Mike Daisey: Yes. And I stand by it as a theatrical work. I stand by how it makes people see and care about the situation that’s happening there. I stand by it in the theater. And I regret, deeply, that it was put into this context on your show.
Ira Glass: Are you going to change the way that you label this in the theater, so that the audience in the theater knows that this isn’t strictly speaking a work of truth but in fact what they’re seeing really is a work of fiction that has some true elements in it.
Mike Daisey: Well, I don’t know that I would say in a theatrical context that it isn’t true. I believe that when I perform it in a theatrical context in the theater that when people hear the story in those terms that we have different languages for what the truth means.
Ira Glass: I understand that you believe that but I think you’re kidding yourself in the way that normal people who go to see a person talk – people take it as a literal truth. I thought that the story was literally true seeing it in the theater. Brian, who’s seen other shows of yours, thought all of them were true. I saw your nuclear show, I thought that was completely true. I thought it was true because you were on stage saying ‘this happened to me.’ I took you at your word.
Mike Daisey: I think you can trust my word in the context of the theater. And how people see it -
and these are the things he said after ira grilled him once he had a chance to think abt it then asked to come back again!
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:43 (nine years ago) link
third part is p cool where they tell you what they do know abt apple chinese manufactring irl
Ira Glass: One of the most interesting things and one of the newest things, that I think you pointed out in this series, is that the cost of labor in an iPhone, if it were made in the United States, would be only about $65 more per phone. I mean that’s a lot of money if you’re manufacturing stuff, um, but with iPhones selling with hundreds of dollars of profit in each phone, Apple could still make a profit if 24it were manufacturing in the U.S., and you have an entire article where you lay out that is not actually the main reason these are made overseas at this point.
Charles Duhigg: That's exactly right. And, and that $65, that's the high-end estimate. Some people told us that you could, from a labor perspective you could build the iPhone in the United States for just ten extra dollars a phone if you're paying American wages. But wages, labor is such an enormously small part of any electronic device, right?Compared to the cost of buying chips or making sure that you have a plant that can turn out thousands of these things a day or being able to get strengthened glass cut exactly right within, you know, two days of this thing being due, that's what's important. Labor is almost insignificant. What is really important are supply chains and flexibility of factories. You want to be able to be located right next to the plant that makes the screws so that when you need a small change to that screw factory, you can go next door and say, "Give it to me in six hours," and they can say, "Here you go." Because if that factory was in another state or on another continent, it would take two weeks. It’s the flexibility within the Chinese manufacturing system, that’s what you can do in Asia that you can’t do in the United States.
Ira Glass: There's, there's a bunch of incredible stories you tell in that article, and one of them is you talk about the number of industrial engineers needed to oversee 200,000 assembly line, line workers. You say there's 8,700 industrial engineers that you need. And so to get this plant going, to get this particular operation going that you were writing about—I can't remember which one it is—you said it would take nine months to find those 8,700 industrial engineers in the United States, and in China, how long it took?
Charles Duhigg: 15 days. And that 15 day figure? The guy who told me that, also told that that’s because they kind of drug their heels on it a little bit. They probably could’ve done it faster.
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:54 (nine years ago) link
yah it's not just labor it's the whole supply chain charles dugong wrote a nyt article about it you should check it out
― flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:57 (nine years ago) link
yah he recommends it at the end of the show too
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:58 (nine years ago) link
the story was always pretty unbelievable in that he'd get that much information about that many experiences from that many ppl (especially the dissidents and organizers and whatever) just by essentially hanging around a factory gate.
― s.clover, Saturday, 17 March 2012 01:10 (nine years ago) link
this is pretty hilarious: "Cathy says she’s never seen a gun in person, only in the movies and on tv, so she’d remember it."
― s.clover, Saturday, 17 March 2012 01:15 (nine years ago) link
ha yeah that was an excellent america shaming moment
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 March 2012 01:22 (nine years ago) link
his mike daisey scoodenfroody is gross
― byan wein (cozen), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:42 (nine years ago) link
don't want to get all james mitchell, but gruber really is going in hard on this foxconn/daisey story now that he can talk about journalism, having basically ignored it for the past three months.
― caek, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 09:14 (nine years ago) link
i bet the daring fireball style guide says don't lie (and capitalize "Internet")
still waiting for him to explain how Apple can buy the company from the shareholders using their own money
― stet, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 09:41 (nine years ago) link
lool
― caek, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 10:39 (nine years ago) link
Seriously?
― dandydonweiner, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:31 (nine years ago) link
That is a pretty normal thing! Are you wondering how they kept issuing stock to employees as bonuses?
Undiluting Apple stock is pretty hilarious at this point, though
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:13 (nine years ago) link
Eh? No, wait, i'm not saying they can't do stock buybacks -- what they can't do is take the company private (eg a mgment buyout) using that money. Board members can't use the company's money to buy it from itself.
― stet, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:17 (nine years ago) link
I thought what they are planning is a buyback?
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:20 (nine years ago) link
you obviously don't read daring fireball
― caek, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:20 (nine years ago) link
Apple can’t control its stock price; that’s in the hands of investors. But it can control how much cash it keeps in reserve. If investors sour (or the market crashes) and the stock price dips, Apple could take itself private. I’m very intrigued about what they’re going to announce tomorrow.
I mean, I get what you're saying -- buy back stock with the company's money, then give that stock to executives -- but I think what their strategy is tends to be more in the way of compensating executives or giving them stock incentives if they stick around, tying their monetary interest in the company to long-term goals rather than striving for bonuses at the end of the year and then bailing for another job.
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:21 (nine years ago) link
oh jesus he really said that, I take all back, he's a moron
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:22 (nine years ago) link
― caek, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:22 (nine years ago) link
There are many good reasons for Apple making this move, but the likelihood of it ever going private is less than zero.
― dandydonweiner, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:31 (nine years ago) link
I don't get how dude can post stuff like that! I mean, it's one thing to betray a complete lack of financial knowledge, but if you talk that through out loud it doesn't even make any sense.
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:33 (nine years ago) link
he should go back to writing about what he knows best: mac os x 10.2-10.3 and perl
― caek, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:37 (nine years ago) link
I kind of have doubts about dude's perl chops tbh
Have we addressed the controversy about the meltdown that happened when people confronted him about the fact he was refusing to allow changes to markdown, including bugfixes people submitted a year prior, and wouldn't give up control?
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:41 (nine years ago) link
that was hilar. he wanted to keep it elegant, and keep focus by saying "no" to everything.
― stet, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:44 (nine years ago) link
He was good at demonstrating his savvy understanding of the programming and web communities.
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:45 (nine years ago) link
like the time he launched the effort to build a new Mail client? It was called Letters or something and was like the king of vaporware
― stet, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:49 (nine years ago) link
omg I don't remember that, but I bet it is amazing
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:49 (nine years ago) link
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/01/rage-against-the-mail-machine-the-genesis-of-letters.ars
http://www.quora.com/John-Gruber-1/What-is-the-status-of-Letters-the-email-client-for-Mac
― stet, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:51 (nine years ago) link
The e-mail client will be called Letters, and project contributors voted Daring Fireball's John Gruber as the man to be responsible for getting version 1.0 out the door.
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:55 (nine years ago) link
that stuff about him being the director
― caek, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:55 (nine years ago) link
The whole $500 thing is kind of funny in view of the Mac App Store, too. What would that be today -- a $80 app like Aperture?
Meanwhile, Sparrow for iPhone launched and the reviews included "TOO COSTLY FOR A PROGRAM THAT DOESN'T HAVE PUSH" and it's friggin $3
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:56 (nine years ago) link
Sparrow would be great but no push is deal breaker. And sorry, working with Boxcar just isn't the same. Urban Airship would be a better integration.
Gruber has a lot of good posts, but he gets prickly very easily.
― dandydonweiner, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:24 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, that wasn't the real issue there... people weren't saying "oh, I need this one feature, I will avoid it due to that"
It was "NOT WORTH $3" when it has a shitload of features!
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:27 (nine years ago) link
I think what people are saying is that that $3 for an app that is missing an essential feature is too costly.
― dandydonweiner, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:29 (nine years ago) link
And FWIW, if Sparrow was made by Google for Android, Gruber would be shelling that corpse with glee for not having push.
(I'm too lazy to go find his post on the release of the standalone Gmail app)
― dandydonweiner, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:30 (nine years ago) link
(whose push feature was fooked)
eh, fair enough.
The entertaining bit is that if you set up a gmail account on an iPhone, it doesn't use gmail's exchange/push server by default so the app currently works with gmail the same way Apple's mail client does, by default. /Gruber
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:39 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I always wonder if that is Apple's middle finger at Google somehow.
― dandydonweiner, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:49 (nine years ago) link
eh, I think it's more the fact that Google still doesn't show it in their setup directions that clearly! You only get the directions on the mobile site, and there under "Google Sync," not under email setup. I think it's officially supported and non-beta, but maybe that's not what they tell Apple?
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:58 (nine years ago) link
Imagine how frustrating this situation must be for monologists who do value the truth, who are performing true journalism.
err is journalism + stage performance a thing?
― grimes - (the elder scrolls iv:) oblivion (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:20 (nine years ago) link
fox news, only they're about as truthy as mike daisey
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:34 (nine years ago) link
imagine how frustrating it must be for fox news
― grimes - (the elder scrolls iv:) oblivion (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:08 (nine years ago) link
right, it's frustrating for fox news like it is mike daisy.
Same package of entertainment.
― dandydonweiner, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:13 (nine years ago) link
*points to twitter*
― markers, Sunday, 1 April 2012 21:37 (nine years ago) link
SUNDAY CRAZINESS
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/03/30/readability
― markers, Sunday, 1 April 2012 21:39 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/UiU5y.png
― diamonddave85, Sunday, 1 April 2012 21:52 (nine years ago) link
cf. this link to an article about human beings being abused
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/03/29/fla-foxconn
vs. this lengthy article about journalism
http://daringfireball.net/2012/03/baby_from_the_bath_water
i guess it's to be expected from a guy with a colophon and a house style, and maybe he honestly doesn't have much to add, but the dude is sleeping on the major apple story of a generations. i mean this post has more commentary than his post about the abc story:
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/03/29/bezos
― caek, Sunday, 1 April 2012 21:58 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/gruber/statuses/186571502550917120
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:08 (nine years ago) link
fwiw I only use Readability when a page is so choked with ads and carousels and other dumb shit that it's actually impossible to read
― TURPS-DEFCON1.jpg (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:22 (nine years ago) link
i use readability a lot when a page is laid out in such a way that its hard to read, p sweet setup, dont use the whole read later aspect tho, i just keep a lot of tabs open
― lag∞n, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:25 (nine years ago) link
btw i will now admit that i find it kinda entertaining how gruber gets legitimately outraged and calls people names
― lag∞n, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:27 (nine years ago) link
oh and in Reeder when the source refuses to provide the full article via rss xxp
― TURPS-DEFCON1.jpg (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:28 (nine years ago) link
btw gruber must acknowledge that when apple built readability support into safari they became scumbags by extension
― TURPS-DEFCON1.jpg (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:30 (nine years ago) link
Readability is awesome and has almost supplanted my use of Instapaper. The linking thing, eh, probably a misstep. The whole "they are taking money given in publishers' names" is completely bullshit afaik because they take money, and offer publishers the opportunity to have some of that money, but they don't say "this money is definitely going to the publishers."
Lots of self-righteous anger going on, imo.
― mh, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:40 (nine years ago) link
how do u ppl use readability?
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:41 (nine years ago) link
On longer-form articles I run across either while browsing twitter or just the web or ilx or whatever I'll add them to Readability, then sit at home after work and read the articles while I'm eating lunch or having a beer after work on my iPhone or iPad.
― mh, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:43 (nine years ago) link
i push the back quote button and it magically reformats a website
― lag∞n, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:44 (nine years ago) link
all you posters sleeping on my post about the major "indefensible: john gruber" story of a generations
― caek, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:46 (nine years ago) link
it was a good post
― lag∞n, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:47 (nine years ago) link
"Badass."
― caek, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:48 (nine years ago) link
"Filed for future claim chowder."
"Agreed."
― caek, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:49 (nine years ago) link
"Hilarious."
caek, did you read the transcript of the interview with the FLA president linked from the ABC news article? It kind of twists the light the report is read in, for me, in that he paints the factory in an average-to-positive light for China and there are a number of issues with worker perception where management hasn't communicated either the right regulatory materials or detailed the safety mechanisms already in place.
I think Gruber's dropping it because he's a lazy ass and doesn't really want to contrast how factories operate in multiple countries. Most people don't, but as a beacon he's kind of dropping the ball, sure.
― mh, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:53 (nine years ago) link
http://twitter.com/#!/BenjaminBrooks/status/189404356888629249
― markers, Monday, 9 April 2012 22:47 (nine years ago) link
and here I thought that dude looked like a mid-80s stereotype of a "professional" in his picture, it turns out he thinks he's in Ferris Bueller
― mh, Monday, 9 April 2012 23:04 (nine years ago) link
what is with these people and describing themselves as 'raconteurs'?:
http://i.imgur.com/FKqUv.png
― diamonddave85, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 14:40 (nine years ago) link
if you took the bio lines and the twitter descriptions of these dudes you're going to find a lot of interesting words like that
to my shame I think I have a social network profile somewhere that probably still says "flâneur." urgh
― mh, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 14:49 (nine years ago) link
u can tell by his bio line what a great storyteller he is
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 14:50 (nine years ago) link
The Yankees have numerous rivals. The Red Sox (division). The Mets (cross-town). The Dodgers (11 World Series matchups). But these Yankees — this particular squad — have a bigger rival. Father Time.
Father Time??? r u srs
Time’s effects, even against Rivera — the most graceful and elegant ballplayer I’ve ever seen, the closest thing in sports to an ageless wonder — are ignominious. The Yankees often win, but in the end, time always wins — the one opponent against which even the Yankees will forever be underdogs. To struggle against time is to struggle against the inevitable. We all know you can’t beat time, but the joy of these aging Yankees is that sometimes you can get lucky and race ahead of it for a while. But now this.
What the fuck, what is the point of this, why not just post that insipid poem about the One Great Scorer
― raw feel vegan (silby), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:23 (eight years ago) link
~time always wins ~ thinks abt it
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:42 (eight years ago) link
Boom, done.
― diamonddave85, Friday, 4 May 2012 22:08 (eight years ago) link
"terrific"
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/05/15/joe-smith-paper-towel
― caek, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:04 (eight years ago) link
lmao after seeing that i was going to start a thread about TED talks that treat you like a fucking child
― diamonddave85, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:05 (eight years ago) link
see also: How To Tie Your Shoes
95% of ted stuff is such glib stupid bullshit, but this is like that lifehacker article about "how to hack your mashed potato for one recipe so that it feeds two people"
― caek, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:07 (eight years ago) link
confession: i was charmed by paper towel dude
― stet, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:19 (eight years ago) link
if everybody didn't get gas on 05/18/12 think of how big a message we'd send to those oil companies
― dayo, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:19 (eight years ago) link
TED is crossing the territory into vince shlomo shamwow territory
― dayo, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:20 (eight years ago) link
you followin me camera guy *dries hands with only one paper towel sheet*
― dayo, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:22 (eight years ago) link
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3993649
― markers, Friday, 18 May 2012 21:26 (eight years ago) link
i don't get it. what is this guy's shtick? he's like the internet-era's garrison keillor?
― Mordy, Friday, 18 May 2012 21:36 (eight years ago) link
Combined with John Dvorak of PC Magazine
― mh, Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:34 (eight years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/05/25/the-talk-show-002 can someone break down this podcast brouhaha for me?
― caek, Friday, 25 May 2012 19:27 (eight years ago) link
Web standards are important, and Daring Fireball adheres to them. Specifically, Daring Fireball’s HTML markup should validate as either HTML 5 or XHTML 4.01 Transitional
there is no such thing as XHTML 4.01 Transitional
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:37 (eight years ago) link
― "Holy crap," I mutter, as he gently taps my area (silby), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:38 (eight years ago) link
http://brooksreview.net/2012/05/amazon-nerf/
― markers, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 15:52 (eight years ago) link
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:40 (eight years ago) link
http://www.kungfugrippe.com/post/25100349521/melange
― markers, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:13 (eight years ago) link
i can name six of eight
― markers, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:14 (eight years ago) link
3
― stet, Thursday, 14 June 2012 23:57 (eight years ago) link
0
― Mordy, Friday, 15 June 2012 00:00 (eight years ago) link
Great Cthulhu, I can name four.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 15 June 2012 00:13 (eight years ago) link
I only spotted Groobs, o well
― "Holy crap," I mutter, as he gently taps my area (silby), Friday, 15 June 2012 00:21 (eight years ago) link
what kind of things would i have had to be interested in to know who these people are?
― Mordy, Friday, 15 June 2012 00:35 (eight years ago) link
yardsticks
― caek, Friday, 15 June 2012 00:36 (eight years ago) link
oh, they're famous yardstick moguls
― Mordy, Friday, 15 June 2012 00:40 (eight years ago) link
http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/underwire/2009/09/surrogates-willis-10shot-670.jpg
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 15 June 2012 11:14 (eight years ago) link
you guys always forget the beacons
― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:06 (eight years ago) link
hay guys YARDSTICKS and MUSTACHES and BEACONS right hahahahahahahah
― brony ver (s1ocki), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:09 (eight years ago) link
notoumas but I still don't get who these ppl are
― Mordy, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:31 (eight years ago) link
people who write blogs about products mostly I assume
― "Holy crap," I mutter, as he gently taps my area (silby), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:34 (eight years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/06/16/whats-that-sound
― markers, Monday, 18 June 2012 15:35 (eight years ago) link
get em, john!
― shaane, Monday, 18 June 2012 16:38 (eight years ago) link
― markers, Monday, 18 June 2012 16:40 (eight years ago) link
haha. those apple-community-supporting assholes!
― brony ver (s1ocki), Monday, 18 June 2012 17:13 (eight years ago) link
man this ipad memo stuff is wearing thin. Even that link he posted, the guy finished the book on a Mac. Yes you can do bits of creation of the iPad. But Macs are way better at most of it. And that should be OK. iBooks: on iPad. iBooks Author: on Mac.
― stet, Thursday, 21 June 2012 07:56 (eight years ago) link
i guess you didnt get the memo
― deadcandace (diamonddave85), Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:17 (eight years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/06/20/ellison-island or like feed the hungry idk
― lag∞n, Monday, 25 June 2012 00:56 (eight years ago) link
there's a reason that fucking tightarse is the sixth richest person in the world
― undermikey: bidness (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 25 June 2012 02:06 (eight years ago) link
fucking tumblr, no i don't want this guy's wisdom on my dashboard
― goole, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 19:58 (eight years ago) link
Ben Brooks puts up a paywall LOL
― diamonddave85, Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:36 (eight years ago) link
damn howm i gonna get my ben brooks fix now
― lag∞n, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:41 (eight years ago) link
Man that was a lot of words to get across "I think I am worth literally twice as much per year than even John Gruber ever thought he was worth for his RSS feed"
― where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Thursday, 12 July 2012 03:36 (eight years ago) link
NB Gruber now easily makes six figures across his various channels, seems to have no qualms about it.
― where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Thursday, 12 July 2012 03:37 (eight years ago) link
would be weird if he had qualms about it
― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, 12 July 2012 04:13 (eight years ago) link
I’ve long suspected that Mayer preferred the iPhone to Android as a user. She was into Instagram while it was iPhone-only. She’s sent multiple tweets — September 2011, June of this year — using Twitter for iPhone. And her husband just tweeted that he’s switching to the iPhone from BlackBerry.I’ve long suspected that Mayer preferred the iPhone to Android as a user. She was into Instagram while it was iPhone-only. She’s sent multiple tweets — September 2011, June of this year — using Twitter for iPhone. And her husband just tweeted that he’s switching to the iPhone from BlackBerry.
kinda crepey level of detail here
― diamonddave85, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 04:27 (eight years ago) link
lol pasted twice apparently!
grubby's review of mountain lion doesn't even mention gatekeeper (his favorite feature)
― diamonddave85, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 15:29 (eight years ago) link
did people really wait in line to buy precious releases of os x cause
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 16:11 (eight years ago) link
lol precious releases
― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 16:11 (eight years ago) link
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/12/08/happy-10th-birthday-daring-fireball/261061/
It's a blog not just about Apple, but about excellence.
His voice can be muscular and rigorous.
But he maybe best understands excellence as it relates to blogging.
he can still better articulate what's fun and compelling about link-sharing (which he's been doing since before we deemed it curation) than anyone
Apple, Gruber's Beatrice, is engorged as a company
He hasn't written, for a long time, an engaging description of a laptop or an account of an anthropomorphized interface element.
It is a testament, still, to the power and potential of writing on the web, to the blogger as auteur
― joe, Monday, 13 August 2012 17:26 (eight years ago) link
Muscular beacons and rigorous yardsticks
― "Pffft" --buddha (silby), Monday, 13 August 2012 17:29 (eight years ago) link
anyone who calls it curation is a fucking idiot
― caek, Monday, 13 August 2012 19:09 (eight years ago) link
Daring Fireball: reblogging Jason Kottke since 2002
― "Pffft" --buddha (silby), Monday, 13 August 2012 19:59 (eight years ago) link
But now this. The 15-inch MacBook Pro With Retina display. This is a boom. A revolution in resolution.
― hot slag (lukas), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 04:27 (eight years ago) link
― "Pffft" --buddha (silby), Monday, August 13, 2012 1:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 05:10 (eight years ago) link
That guy in the atlantic twice describes it as gray-green. Are all my monitors fucked? I see no green!
― sktsh, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 11:41 (eight years ago) link
he compares john gruber to dante. i think we can safely say it's him, not you.
― joe, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 12:29 (eight years ago) link
― sktsh, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 13:11 (eight years ago) link
https://twitter.com/joshuatopolsky/status/245199223715409920
― stet, Monday, 10 September 2012 23:05 (eight years ago) link
Gruber is just the most middlebrow piece of shit.
― "Pffft" --buddha (silby), Monday, 10 September 2012 23:16 (eight years ago) link
i wrote him a "not angry just disappointed" email about how utterly useless he's become, but he didn't reply.
― caek, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 14:00 (eight years ago) link
really? lol. can we see?
― stet, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 14:37 (eight years ago) link
according to that bloomberg piece, he's making $500,000 a year off daring fireball now. shit.
― joe, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 15:05 (eight years ago) link
kudos tbf
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 16:01 (eight years ago) link
yeah, it's impressive how he's managed to turn journalism's economics on its head - do nyt columnist even earn that much? - although it's pretty obvious he's a one-off for all sorts of reasons that don't have much to do with his writing.
― joe, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 16:20 (eight years ago) link
I hope you'll accept this unsolicited criticism in the spirit that it's intended:
Linking to Gizmodo comments is like pointing at someone taking a shit on the sidewalk.[*]
It's your site, and you certainly owe me, an Adblock-running reader, nothing. But you used to do better than this.
[*] zing i think i may have started to overuse, and have certainly used before on ilx
― caek, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 16:24 (eight years ago) link
Dear Caek,
Thank you for your thoughtful letter. I unfortunately was unable to read it due to my eyes being all clogged up with tons of money.
Yours,Gruber
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 16:26 (eight years ago) link
Sent from my iPhone
― stet, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 16:52 (eight years ago) link
― caek, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 16:58 (eight years ago) link
anyone who doesn't delete that stupid default signature moments after getting a new device is a disgusting savage
― the physical impossibility of sb in the mind of someone fping (silby), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 18:17 (eight years ago) link
i changed my ipad's signature to all caps
SENT FROM MY IPAD.
― diamonddave85, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 18:26 (eight years ago) link
iphone 5 review from john 'my hands are at least somewhat larger than average' gruber: http://daringfireball.net/2012/09/iphone_5
― diamonddave85, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 03:51 (eight years ago) link
hah that jumped out at me too, at least, so coy come on tell us just how larger than average your hands are john
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 03:56 (eight years ago) link
All his reviews lately have a paragraph like "I didn't like this change at first, but right now I don't really mind, I'm sure the old way will seem weird in a few weeks" which just seems sadly appropriate.
― the physical impossibility of sb in the mind of someone fping (silby), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 06:34 (eight years ago) link
Yours Truly on Charlie Rose Tonight ★With David Pogue. No idea what we’re going to talk about.
ew
― lag∞n, Friday, 21 September 2012 00:43 (eight years ago) link
going to start ending pronouncements with ★
― * The "no hands" rule can be compared to socialist tax policies (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 21 September 2012 03:57 (eight years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/09/24/postpositive-adjectives
This is more elegant, but it sounds pretentious to my ears. ★
― caek, Monday, 24 September 2012 22:02 (eight years ago) link
so elegant
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 September 2012 22:03 (eight years ago) link
stunning
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Monday, 24 September 2012 22:16 (eight years ago) link
― barthes simpson, Monday, 24 September 2012 22:16 (eight years ago) link
passersby with their iphones 5
― barthes simpson, Monday, 24 September 2012 22:18 (eight years ago) link
enjoying their macbooks pro
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 24 September 2012 22:57 (eight years ago) link
"I miss William Safire."
― the physical impossibility of sb in the mind of someone fping (silby), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 05:33 (eight years ago) link
good luck to the tories
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/british-prime-minister-david-cameron-letterman-373870
― caek, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 12:10 (eight years ago) link
Sounds like a pile of horseshit from Instagram, considering that the whole reason they gave for replacing their original not-live but aesthetically superior filters with the current crop was that live filters were an important feature. If they bring back the old filters, I’ll say hip-hip-hooray. If they stick with the current meh filters and remove live previewing, I say boo-hiss.
Remember the Gotham filter?
i know being a tech pundit means you have to care a lot abt a lot of inconsequential things but Remember the Gotham filter? is killing me
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 17:58 (eight years ago) link
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v162/hughgr/pouring_beer_out.png
― schwantz, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 18:11 (eight years ago) link
Another typographic boner: the Kindle still lacks hyphenation but yet insists upon full-justified text.
indefensible
― www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:13 (eight years ago) link
he's right about the buttons
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:20 (eight years ago) link
And the hyphenation
― stet, Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:24 (eight years ago) link
and the but-tons
― lag∞n, Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:26 (eight years ago) link
and thediffere-nt feel of rea-ding o-n Kind-le
― stet, Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:53 (eight years ago) link
justify my boner
― barthes simpson, Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:58 (eight years ago) link
Oh I mean of course any e-reader would be drastically improved by the TeX line-breaking algorithm, but on the other hand, where the fuck does "but yet" come from?
― www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Thursday, 11 October 2012 01:06 (eight years ago) link
I guess it does seem strange to force justification without hyphenation. They could have made that an option, right?
I wonder why they haven't nabbed TeX's H&Js, like you say. InDesign 1 was doing that in real-time on a 500mhz G3; there's surely enough power and time to do it during a page refresh on kindle. I must be missing something.
― stet, Thursday, 11 October 2012 01:18 (eight years ago) link
just dont justify, so uptight, be easy kindle
― lag∞n, Thursday, 11 October 2012 01:22 (eight years ago) link
people who prefer full justification are disgusting savages fyi
― barthes simpson, Thursday, 11 October 2012 01:26 (eight years ago) link
tbf p much every book in the world is justified
― lag∞n, Thursday, 11 October 2012 01:28 (eight years ago) link
was gonna say, have you never read a printed book or
― www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Thursday, 11 October 2012 01:28 (eight years ago) link
but at the same time i support fully dayos right to dream
― lag∞n, Thursday, 11 October 2012 01:32 (eight years ago) link
thats where im a viking
― barthes simpson, Thursday, 11 October 2012 01:33 (eight years ago) link
books are typeset by professionals. never really seen a kindle, do they do it nice or is it just all computerized?
― j., Thursday, 11 October 2012 03:03 (eight years ago) link
Books are typeset by professionals. There are good algorithms for doing justified line-breaking with hyphenation. eReaders do not implement them because someone is lazy.
― www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Thursday, 11 October 2012 03:12 (eight years ago) link
basically the Kindle people should be reading this (pdf)
― www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Thursday, 11 October 2012 04:26 (eight years ago) link
Link doesn't work for me but I bet I'd say OTM.
Don't we have a Kindle person on here? /crosses fingers
― stet, Thursday, 11 October 2012 07:12 (eight years ago) link
― lag∞n, Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
so I thought maybe I just hated only a certain type of justification but then I read the wikipedia entry and man justification sounds so !complicated, perhaps all the fonts in the world should just be monospaced
― 乒乓, Thursday, 11 October 2012 12:29 (eight years ago) link
even w/monospacing you need hyphenation.
― stet, Thursday, 11 October 2012 12:40 (eight years ago) link
Link doesn't work for me but I bet I'd say OTM.Don't we have a Kindle person on here? /crosses fingers― stet, Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:12 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― stet, Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:12 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Not any more! Joined a start-up a couple of weeks ago.
The hyphenation thing is hard, but I'm not sure, knowing how crazy-obsessed with typography Jeff B is, why the reader guys have not gotten proper hyphenation into the devices.
― schwantz, Thursday, 11 October 2012 16:32 (eight years ago) link
Sorry for broken link above.
http://dx.doi.org/10.1002%2Fspe.4380111102
― www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Thursday, 11 October 2012 16:36 (eight years ago) link
OTM
― stet, Thursday, 11 October 2012 16:39 (eight years ago) link
i really hope they wise up and put page-turning buttons back
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Thursday, 11 October 2012 16:43 (eight years ago) link
beautiful buttons that are a delight to press
― stet, Thursday, 11 October 2012 16:44 (eight years ago) link
LOL @ knuth's paper being fully justified
― Anime Mann (diamonddave85), Thursday, 11 October 2012 17:02 (eight years ago) link
I don't know why that is lol
― www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Thursday, 11 October 2012 17:53 (eight years ago) link
― stet, Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:44 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes! want
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Thursday, 11 October 2012 18:03 (eight years ago) link
Kottke figures that Daring Fireball brings in $650,000 a year: http://kottke.org/12/11/stay-small-or-go-big
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 9 November 2012 23:26 (eight years ago) link
* If John Gruber manages the Daring Fireball’s Syndicated Feed Sponsorship he’ll earn $8,500 per week. If 52 sponsorships were available per year, he’d earn $442,000 per year. He’ll also receive $19 per year, per Daring Fireball member.
* Daring Fireball is a member of the Deck ad network. The Deck’s standard rate is $8,600 per ad, per month. However, a “roadblock” ad is available for $8,600 per ad, per day. Revenue is shared between Coudal Partners, Inc. and the Deck’s members.
* John Gruber is an Amazon.com associate. If he’s in Amazon’s top-tier, he receives an 8.5% commission per product shipped or downloaded. He’d also receive an additional commission for qualified categories (e.g. he’d receive an additional 4% per “electronic product” shipped).
* John Gruber is the host of The Talk Show, a podcast on Mule Radio Syndicate (a podcast network managed by Mule Design and Caleb Sexton). Each episode features two sponsors. A sponsorship costs $2,500 per episode. If 104 sponsorships were available per year, The Talk Show would earn $260,000 per year.
― Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 10 November 2012 00:37 (eight years ago) link
I agree with every single word, including his idea to draw the “wealthy” line at $500,000, not $250,000.
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 22:39 (eight years ago) link
lol just came here to post that.
― joe, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:52 (eight years ago) link
https://twitter.com/gruber/status/38517352
― caek, Saturday, 1 December 2012 14:29 (eight years ago) link
oh gruberpaws
― whinesplaining 101 (cozen), Saturday, 1 December 2012 14:30 (eight years ago) link
https://twitter.com/gruber/status/27491871https://twitter.com/gruber/status/5913161https://twitter.com/gruber/status/3821543
― caek, Saturday, 1 December 2012 14:30 (eight years ago) link
via @jwherrman
― caek, Saturday, 1 December 2012 14:31 (eight years ago) link
of course his twitter background would be 6-month gray ;_;
― 乒乓, Saturday, 1 December 2012 14:31 (eight years ago) link
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:32 PM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― caek, Friday, 4 January 2013 09:05 (eight years ago) link
The app I found that works best is Icon Slate, by Kodian. It costs $5 in the Mac App Store and is worth every penny.
or use free software:
$ convert icon-16.png icon-32.png favicon.ico
― big fat dictionary (diamonddave85), Friday, 4 January 2013 22:17 (eight years ago) link
lol is he talking abt software for making favicons
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 January 2013 22:27 (eight years ago) link
Hundreds ★Clever new iOS puzzle game from the makers of Canabalt. I very much like the visual aesthetic.
lol the visual aesthetic of this game is terrible and the game is terrible, but on the other hand it is helvetica and not free so...
― caek, Saturday, 5 January 2013 02:08 (eight years ago) link
it's actually an intriguing game tho, gotta admit I paid for it, I will take a $3 flyer on anything
― autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Saturday, 5 January 2013 04:04 (eight years ago) link
diamonddave85 otm tho
― autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Saturday, 5 January 2013 04:05 (eight years ago) link
it is a bad game imo, and way overpriced for the App Store. Seriously think you could sell Gruber a bit of dog dirt as long as you set it in helvetica and charged 49$ for it.
― caek, Saturday, 5 January 2013 15:35 (eight years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/01/08/tradeshow-tailgating
good grief this guy has appalling taste in writing
i should stop reading him
― caek, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 10:56 (eight years ago) link
Tech journalist as a half-empty jar of mayonnaise seems somewhat on the nose, although not how the writer intended.
― mh, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 14:32 (eight years ago) link
tech journalist as deathdr0ne's cigar box
― autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 17:36 (eight years ago) link
credit due this is a good piece http://daringfireball.net/2013/01/the_trend_against_skeuomorphism
― lag∞n, Friday, 18 January 2013 22:04 (eight years ago) link
I know some iOS apps are definitely this way but claiming iOS is the leading edge for "flatness" is straight-up bullshit when Windows 8 exists
― mh, Friday, 18 January 2013 22:28 (eight years ago) link
things do look real crisp on nice displays, though
not that i think its a particularly important point but the retina display way predates windows 8
― lag∞n, Friday, 18 January 2013 22:34 (eight years ago) link
not sure what we're supposed to do if we eliminate all skeumorphism, besides just everything looking like flat squares, who actually wants that
― zero dark (s1ocki), Friday, 18 January 2013 22:49 (eight years ago) link
Most UIs aren't that skeumorphic! There aren't really that many real life items with drop-down menus and shit.
Windows 8 probably a mediocre reference point here, but I feel like saying creative iOS developers own "flatness" is kind of wrong-headed.
Windows 8 prerelease 1 did come out a month before iPhone 4S, though.
― mh, Friday, 18 January 2013 23:03 (eight years ago) link
ya I mean 'flat design' has been around forever really and its kinda an imprecise distinction, the thing I found intersting abt the piece is the observation that hi def screens allow for more sophisticated design
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 January 2013 00:01 (eight years ago) link
also iirc the iPhone 4 was the 1st one w retina
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 January 2013 00:05 (eight years ago) link
Oh, yeah
― mh, Saturday, 19 January 2013 00:40 (eight years ago) link
His argument is basically "we can have games with helvetica that look like they're printed paper"
― mh, Saturday, 19 January 2013 00:42 (eight years ago) link
if u can make software that looks like its printed thats a huge difference!
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 January 2013 00:46 (eight years ago) link
^^^ the point abt "you don't see high-gloss reflection w/drop shadows and textures in print" is a good one.
― stet, Saturday, 19 January 2013 01:38 (eight years ago) link
gotta say tho I have decided that Ikea's corporate identity switch to Verdana was an inspired move. Futura was too far on the "aspirational" end of the scale. Verdana may be an odd choice but it's a pretty good one when you're at the store seeing it in context.
― (panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Saturday, 19 January 2013 04:19 (eight years ago) link
wank wank remove bookmark from thread u grubers
― mh, Saturday, 19 January 2013 06:53 (eight years ago) link
this is his worst post
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/02/15/posterous
― caek, Saturday, 16 February 2013 04:03 (eight years ago) link
ever
p.s. jh0 otm that skeuomorphism piece was good, although it reminded me of this: indefensible: john gruber
― caek, Saturday, 16 February 2013 04:05 (eight years ago) link
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kihlbom/8483283129/in/set-72157632789034693/
― markers, Thursday, 21 February 2013 02:36 (eight years ago) link
the first sentence of this interview of marco on the brooks report reads like it was written by a 12 year old:
One thing that has really been on my mind lately is how publishing is changing.
― ☕ (diamonddave85), Monday, 25 February 2013 22:51 (eight years ago) link
In conclusion, publishing is in a time of great change.
― my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Monday, 25 February 2013 23:00 (eight years ago) link
Ever since the beginning of time, man has wondered about how publishing is changing.
― 乒乓, Monday, 25 February 2013 23:07 (eight years ago) link
Another thing I thought was interesting about publishing was how it is changing.
― my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Monday, 25 February 2013 23:08 (eight years ago) link
ha. sentence 2:
Many think it is a bit crazy that I went with a paywall, but even more crazy is that I was thinking of shutting down the site as it is and doing a periodical on the iPad instead (cooler heads prevailed).
i think it's crazy you expect people to pay for sentences written like this, yes.
― caek, Monday, 25 February 2013 23:09 (eight years ago) link
http://www.muleradio.net/newdisruptors/14/
― markers, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:13 (eight years ago) link
what
― zero dark (s1ocki), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:16 (eight years ago) link
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kihlbom/8483283129/in/set-72157632789034693
― markers, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:16 (eight years ago) link
love that pic
― diamonddave85, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:23 (eight years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/04/02/finding-dory
congratulations to the tories
― caek, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:11 (eight years ago) link
https://twitter.com/gruber/status/319162801564307456
― markers, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:36 (eight years ago) link
TS: "congratulations to the tories" vs. "is that like fanboy but also gay?"
― diamonddave85, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:57 (eight years ago) link
god
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 15:00 (eight years ago) link
can we try to do something so ben brooks talks about us again
― markers, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 15:01 (eight years ago) link
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 15:02 (eight years ago) link
i love it when that deep vein of conservatism that runs through everything he writes bubbles up
― caek, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 15:07 (eight years ago) link
ya like when he goes off on how america doesnt need unions anymore smh
― zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:04 (eight years ago) link
what is the deep vien of conservatism, that he likes the incredibles
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:06 (eight years ago) link
i'm down with the kind of conservatism that avoids sequels but that means no iphone 5s, 6 etc...
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:07 (eight years ago) link
i mean small c conservatism
― caek, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:09 (eight years ago) link
http://brooksreview.net/2012/12/unions/
― zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:10 (eight years ago) link
like i feel his extreme aesthetic conservatism is part of a more general cultural conservatism
― caek, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:11 (eight years ago) link
jesus fucking christ
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:47 (eight years ago) link
p much
i dont know why i ever had that guy in my RSS reader but when i dumped him and some other gruberhead dittoheads (kept the main guy tho) i felt like my life had noticeably improved
― zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:06 (eight years ago) link
Gruber spends way too much time calling out people who say dumb shit about apple, not enough time rumor-mongering.
― my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:44 (eight years ago) link
i still read him all the time he is horrible but there are lots of good links on there and he even writes good stuff occasionally and i even like the claim chowder because im into predictions and its fun to see old ones
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 18:53 (eight years ago) link
ya thats me basically haha
― zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 20:36 (eight years ago) link
i only read when he is linked from other places, and it's usually pretty good. who's a less horrible gruber, though, so i can read that instead?
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 20:46 (eight years ago) link
marco
― Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 20:52 (eight years ago) link
lol basically
― zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 20:59 (eight years ago) link
yeah joe otm.
― caek, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 21:05 (eight years ago) link
https://twitter.com/garyvee/status/324346308196450305
― markers, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 02:20 (eight years ago) link
how the hell is jon gruber a verified account
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 02:31 (eight years ago) link
no idea but my guess is that a lot of people at twitter know who he is
― markers, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 02:36 (eight years ago) link
he's one of the most visible tech writers in the industry
― markers, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 02:37 (eight years ago) link
yeah groobs is up there with any of the broadsheet guys like Pogue, Ihnatko, Mossberg.
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 04:17 (eight years ago) link
i hate this world
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 11:49 (eight years ago) link
gruber is occasionally douchey but I still read him.
See also: MG Siegler.
― The Great Forgiver (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 11:55 (eight years ago) link
siegler is so much worse. particularly since he's a VC and has a vested interest in all the shit he writes about
― zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 13:06 (eight years ago) link
MG Siegler @parislemon 4mThe stock market is a game. And if you don't realize that, you're sadly in the group being gamed.
lol is he reading this thread
― sktsh, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 16:21 (eight years ago) link
gary vaynerchuk tweeting "i miss u" at gruber is the only worthwhile thing that ever happened on twitter
― markers, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 16:44 (eight years ago) link
is it a blink182 refernce? this world of micro online mac celebrities seems completely divorced from the world of micro flesh mac celebrities.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 17:26 (eight years ago) link
it could be looked at that way, but gary certainly wasn't thinking of tom delonge
― markers, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 17:28 (eight years ago) link
that being said, i'm going to take this opportunity on this relatively obscure thread to announce that i'm done with that as a meme/thing and won't be posting it anymore
― markers, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 17:29 (eight years ago) link
and now that i've said it i guess it's true so there we go
i don't know who gary is, so contextually blink182 is all i have to go on. (i also don't know who gruber is either other than he seems to be linked to a lot)
have you guys come across any japanese mac magazines? they look really content-rich. I feel like there's a vast trove of good mac journalism hidden from us at kinokuniya while the english-speaking world has to settle for weird twitter people
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 17:39 (eight years ago) link
he's a social media dude or whatever
― markers, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 17:45 (eight years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net
*points to logo*
― markers, Friday, 19 April 2013 18:29 (seven years ago) link
he's from Philly
― 乒乓, Friday, 19 April 2013 18:33 (seven years ago) link
used to work around here i think
― markers, Friday, 19 April 2013 18:37 (seven years ago) link
i think
I'm sure gruber's Yankees fandom has been mentioned as part of his indefensibility itt.
― fucking Telstra (silby), Friday, 19 April 2013 18:41 (seven years ago) link
you should google gary, lol
― The Great Natterer (dandydonweiner), Friday, 19 April 2013 19:47 (seven years ago) link
o god grubes u sanctimonious prick get that logo off yr site
― lag∞n, Saturday, 20 April 2013 03:07 (seven years ago) link
wonder if he had the express written permission of Major League Baseball
― fucking Telstra (silby), Saturday, 20 April 2013 03:16 (seven years ago) link
lawsuit
― markers, Saturday, 20 April 2013 03:18 (seven years ago) link
let's make a citizens' arrest
― fucking Telstra (silby), Saturday, 20 April 2013 03:19 (seven years ago) link
where's gruber?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adelcambre/8666761437/in/set-72157633287874607/lightbox/
― markers, Sunday, 21 April 2013 14:21 (seven years ago) link
back right, looking like he could use a benadryl
― caek, Sunday, 21 April 2013 14:44 (seven years ago) link
you found him! ok now everyone else. http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc6/276914_206566229429_1484857798_q.jpg
― markers, Sunday, 21 April 2013 14:45 (seven years ago) link
wait, i guess you don't need to find him now that you know where he is.
― markers, Sunday, 21 April 2013 14:46 (seven years ago) link
ha yeah sorry
― caek, Sunday, 21 April 2013 14:46 (seven years ago) link
now find the startup ceo with an oversized t shirt, oh wait
― we're up all night to eat biscuits (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 21 April 2013 14:47 (seven years ago) link
xpost np
― markers, Sunday, 21 April 2013 15:44 (seven years ago) link
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adelcambre/8667025960/in/set-72157633287874607/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adelcambre/8667026542/in/set-72157633287874607/
― markers, Sunday, 21 April 2013 15:45 (seven years ago) link
marco on phish
If you’ll permit a pretty rough analogy, imagine a world in which the vast majority of published fiction was in the form of 3,000-word short stories, and most people had never read anything longer. Phish is the one outlier publishing novels, and they’re pretty weird, complex novels. No effort to condense such novels into bite-sized short stories will truly capture the appeal.
― diamonddave85, Monday, 22 April 2013 17:51 (seven years ago) link
ahahahhahaa oh sure
― fucking Telstra (silby), Monday, 22 April 2013 17:53 (seven years ago) link
http://www.earwolf.com/show/analyze-phish/
marco's Intro to Phish is pretty cringeworthy too: http://www.marco.org/2011/05/26/geek-intro-to-phish
― diamonddave85, Monday, 22 April 2013 17:56 (seven years ago) link
i enjoy gruber's writing on daring fireball because his insufferability is part of the weird charm. i have great friends i consider insufferable assholes because i enjoy the *style* with which they are insufferable.
gruber should never podcast, because then he's all insufferable and no style. the talk show since the move to mule is awful imo.
― hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 22 April 2013 18:23 (seven years ago) link
but i always thought dan was the best part of the talk show anyway.
are you saying grubes is cool cause man i got news for you, he is not cool
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 02:44 (seven years ago) link
the fact that a phish fan is much, much wealthier than me will gall me to my dying day.
― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 14:37 (seven years ago) link
haha you can't be an insufferable defender of the biggest company on earth who makes hundreds of thousands a year by linking to other people's writing and complaining about star wars and still qualify as cool, i agree
― hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 16:22 (seven years ago) link
and by the biggest company on earth i mean phish
what a strange way to approach music.
― sofatruck, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 18:34 (seven years ago) link
phish food makes bank dogg
― hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 19:02 (seven years ago) link
i agree that his kind-of-terrible "character" is part of the appeal kinda like marc maron
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:04 (seven years ago) link
RIP Read & Trust
how will we know who to read and trust?
― diamonddave85, Monday, 29 April 2013 18:31 (seven years ago) link
i am adrift
― lag∞n, Monday, 29 April 2013 18:39 (seven years ago) link
imagine being the kind of person who actually paid for that shit
― markers, Monday, 29 April 2013 18:41 (seven years ago) link
lmao @ "I still managed to push almost as much cash into the hands of fantastic writers as the large Readability effort did over the course of its run."
― caek, Monday, 29 April 2013 19:25 (seven years ago) link
dont know who to readdont know who to trust
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, 29 April 2013 22:12 (seven years ago) link
― caek, Monday, April 29, 2013 7:25 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
why lmao, idgi
― hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 29 April 2013 22:23 (seven years ago) link
they mailed out cheques for like 8 cents.
― caek, Monday, 29 April 2013 22:33 (seven years ago) link
not quite gruber but basically the worst thing i've seen all year
http://www.marco.org/2013/05/03/tshirt
― great wallogina (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 4 May 2013 01:01 (seven years ago) link
45 out of 50 already claimed what the hell
― diamonddave85, Saturday, 4 May 2013 01:46 (seven years ago) link
wait isn't this the guy you all told me was better than gruber?
― Philip Nunez, Saturday, 4 May 2013 01:49 (seven years ago) link
'better than gruber' isn't exactly an accomplishment
― great wallogina (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 4 May 2013 01:50 (seven years ago) link
who is good then? Nobody? Can I become the best apple blogger by simply never having heard phish or crowdsourced a tshirt?
― Philip Nunez, Saturday, 4 May 2013 01:57 (seven years ago) link
http://hypercritical.co/
― markers, Saturday, 4 May 2013 02:07 (seven years ago) link
caek would agree with me if he were here right now
although i like gruber and marco too
i like all three of them
http://hypercritical.co/2013/05/03/beauty-truth-and-jony-ive
Tha
― Philip Nunez, Saturday, 4 May 2013 02:24 (seven years ago) link
feel so bad for anyone who buys a gruber or marco.org tshirt, god help you
― lag∞n, Saturday, 4 May 2013 05:40 (seven years ago) link
what about https://twitter.com/hypercritical/status/330534382119034880
― markers, Saturday, 4 May 2013 05:40 (seven years ago) link
im honestly mystified and horrified
― lag∞n, Saturday, 4 May 2013 05:45 (seven years ago) link
nerd need to learn to respect their bodies
just in time for wwdc! http://teespring.com/ilx0r
― diamonddave85, Saturday, 4 May 2013 06:06 (seven years ago) link
based on the sales estimates on the teespring dashboard, marco's tee will net him at least $385, hypercritical will get at least $2000 jesus
― diamonddave85, Saturday, 4 May 2013 06:09 (seven years ago) link
the ilx0r tee will get me $992830, let's get this funded!
― diamonddave85, Saturday, 4 May 2013 06:10 (seven years ago) link
bargin
― lag∞n, Saturday, 4 May 2013 06:12 (seven years ago) link
8====D~~~
― Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 4 May 2013 09:31 (seven years ago) link
http://www.marco.org/2013/05/03/ios7-deforestation
Since you haven’t heard enough of my voice yet this week, I also did John Gruber’s The Talk Show
― great wallogina (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 4 May 2013 12:51 (seven years ago) link
someday I will need someone to explain to me ilx's near-universal disdain for crowdfunding
― hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 4 May 2013 20:48 (seven years ago) link
I couldn't make myself listen to his drop-by on the Talk Show, but he was really good on Quit! last week.
― hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 4 May 2013 20:50 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/SnoopDogg/status/331953815983124480
― markers, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 02:16 (seven years ago) link
apple fanboyism is getting eh
― markers, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:41 (seven years ago) link
I've been dreading the day when this would happen
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:48 (seven years ago) link
apple is getting eh to be fair
― umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:49 (seven years ago) link
but yes
i follow a bunch of the usual supects on twitter and just
― markers, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:51 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/gruber
to his credit: https://twitter.com/marcoarment/status/334727040433537025
at least some non-partisan stuff
wow actually a lil more of that too: https://twitter.com/chockenberry/status/334733292303699968
― markers, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:52 (seven years ago) link
but then: https://twitter.com/chockenberry/status/334733606931017729
― markers, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:53 (seven years ago) link
goooooooogle
― resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 22:23 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/TOyW6fr.png
― markers, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 22:31 (seven years ago) link
ugh
― umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 22:47 (seven years ago) link
disgusting
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 00:54 (seven years ago) link
one second before his face exploded
― umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 00:54 (seven years ago) link
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/15/4333656/larry-page-teases-robert-scoble-for-nude-google-glass-photo
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 00:55 (seven years ago) link
indefensible: THOSE PHOTOS
― umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 00:57 (seven years ago) link
really hoping google doesn't release 'google buttplug' at this point
― umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 00:58 (seven years ago) link
Page joked with him: "Robert, I really didn't appreciate the shower photo." Page was, of course, referring to a picture Scoble posted of himself taking a shower with Google Glass alongside the caption "You thought I was kidding when I said I would never take them off." Well played, Page.
Yes, well played, Page.
― caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:01 (seven years ago) link
well played
wtf is wrong with these people
truly la mot juste
― caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:08 (seven years ago) link
http://24.media.tumblr.com/20d0a18c53e23963d04d933bc25c9cdd/tumblr_mmszynFLFo1spaymdo1_1280.jpg
― caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:13 (seven years ago) link
imagine how much google are regretting giving this guy a pair
destroy silicon valley
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:15 (seven years ago) link
i am enjoying the perfectly timed return of valleywag
― caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:15 (seven years ago) link
it's not as good as you think it is
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:15 (seven years ago) link
destroy silicon valley― 乒乓, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:15 PM
― 乒乓, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:15 PM
sure, hand in yr iphone first
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:16 (seven years ago) link
and yr laptop
quit twitter, facebook
that scoble shower pic is the new goatse
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:17 (seven years ago) link
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:17 (seven years ago) link
― markers, Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:15 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol the kraken awakes
― caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:18 (seven years ago) link
markers if you told me everybody had to live without computers i don't think that would be so bad tbh. hipster farmers ftw
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:18 (seven years ago) link
not everyone, just you and people who say shit like that
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:19 (seven years ago) link
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:19 (seven years ago) link
cool, fashionable opinion
you don't even believe that
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:20 (seven years ago) link
aren't you into this shit?
if you think the non-reporting journalism/nepotism/credulity fest/circle jerk that orbits around y combinator, hacker news and techcrunch should not be treated with basically utter contempt then i don't know what to tell you man
― caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:21 (seven years ago) link
i assume dy is talking about that, not technology in general
hm
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:21 (seven years ago) link
yeah i doubt he's after the whole thing but still
i used to listen to this week in tech i know what im talking about
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:22 (seven years ago) link
don't get us wrong markers. i for one love your enthusiasm for this stuff, and i enjoy yr links!
― caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:22 (seven years ago) link
people shitting on tech just gets . . . something to me. i'm legitimately interest in this shit and spend plenty of time following it and i get that it's not cool or whatever but
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:22 (seven years ago) link
silicon valley is def often pretty gross and frivolous (and occasionally brilliant obvs) but i feel like the appropriate response is more casual distain rather than the gonzo outrage of valleywag which is kinda really buying into the whole thing too much
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:24 (seven years ago) link
markers its cool but its also a lot of navel gazing
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:24 (seven years ago) link
don't get us wrong markers. i for one love your enthusiasm for this stuff, and i enjoy yr links!― caek, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:22 PM
― caek, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:22 PM
hey thank you
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:24 (seven years ago) link
it's not that it's not cool. i think the top tier stuff is legitimately very interesting, and sometimes even "cool". it's the hangers on, 90% of the journalists who cover this beat, and the armchair developer/typographer bloggers who are the problem.
― caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:25 (seven years ago) link
i love technology and the internet and whatnot and think its legitimately important, but i dont think that at all contradicts the obvious observation that like techcrunch is a v stupid publication
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:26 (seven years ago) link
true josh.valleywag (i.e. basically just sam biddle, right?) has really gone in at the deep end, but the stench had got so bit strong over the past year or two, and no one was saying anything (except the register, which is still the best, aside from its lack of boots on the ground in CA)
― caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:27 (seven years ago) link
lol who is "josh". joe.
a friend of mine goes to stanford and was talking abt how she cant go work at the coffee shop w out overhearing people pitch their terrible startup ideas
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:27 (seven years ago) link
i told her she needs to get a tumblr
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:28 (seven years ago) link
i dont think that at all contradicts the obvious observation that like techcrunch is a v stupid publication
i used to read it a lot more than i do now
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:28 (seven years ago) link
but, like, there's good stuff out there too. look at the verge. those people do wonderful shit. there's good reporting too, like some of jessica lessin's apple shit for the wsj. john siracusa's hypercritical posts abt apple. some of bloomberg businessweek's features.
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:29 (seven years ago) link
i mostly just have in mind treating anything mg siegler does as 'news' tbh
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:30 (seven years ago) link
also the weird cult that built up around jason kalikanis
he's not worth paying attention to and should be ignored
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:30 (seven years ago) link
anyway......... destroy silicon valley
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:32 (seven years ago) link
ya i like the verge, the weird thing is a lot of tech news is business reporting abt these companies and theyre generally ont that interesting as businesses, like ohh booble babble raised a b round of venture capital, cwapoole was acquired by cakemix in an acuhire, who could possibly give a shit, writing abt the actual product and technology is obvs a lot harder and often ends in embarrassing situations where clowns like scoble predict google glasses are gonna change the world
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:35 (seven years ago) link
the pinboard guy noted in a tweet that that shower photo will likely be the most important thing scoble ever does ;_;
― caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:37 (seven years ago) link
it is so fn gross, like im not even joking it disgusts me
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:38 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/JVUuZZW.png
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:38 (seven years ago) link
lol 'credited'
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:39 (seven years ago) link
― 乒乓, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:30 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― markers, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:30 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark
i guess this points to a larger phenomenon of how much shelf life some of these guys, like kalikanis, scoble, people who should have stopped being relevant 10 years ago, in the fast moving world of tech
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:39 (seven years ago) link
there's tons of garbage out there when it comes to tech writing, but when you follow the stuff for long enough it becomes increasingly easier to know whose shit is worth following and whose isn't
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:40 (seven years ago) link
Time for a return of F'ed Company's dead pool
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:40 (seven years ago) link
like, i can tell you that the only time you need to pay attention to jim dalrymple is when he does one of his "yep" or "nope" posts
because he'll end up being right 100% of the time
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:41 (seven years ago) link
also the navelgazing circlejerk of silicon valley is what led to people thinking that foursquare was a good idea, i mean wth, literally w t h
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:41 (seven years ago) link
i guess this points to a larger phenomenon of how much shelf life some of these guys, like kalikanis, scoble, people who should have stopped being relevant 10 years ago, in the fast moving world of tech― 乒乓, Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:39 AM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― 乒乓, Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:39 AM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah in that sense gruber's longevity (10 years?) as basically the top pundit in the game is pretty remarkable
i mean i get the feeling he's not playing to his strengths any more, but still, his impact is much more than just vestigal enormous readership
― caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:42 (seven years ago) link
also the navelgazing circlejerk of silicon valley is what led to people thinking that foursquare was a good idea
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:42 (seven years ago) link
markers, there's annoying tech sceptics and then there's this hideous scoble guy
― umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:42 (seven years ago) link
some social degenerate in his cubicle thinking "maybe the reason people dont hang out with me is because they never know where i am, i know, ill make an app that broadcasts my location 24/7, then the ppl will come" -> 4 square -> millions of dollars in VC funding
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:42 (seven years ago) link
yes that's exactly what happened
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:43 (seven years ago) link
foursquare helps me so
― umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:43 (seven years ago) link
foursquare isn't really that interesting to me
what is the utility of foursquare, why does that service exist, who is the mayor of ILX
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:43 (seven years ago) link
― caek, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:27 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ya i agree and i mostly like what valleywag is doing but maybe just ease off the gas a little --josh
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:43 (seven years ago) link
services similar to foursqure will def be really huge at some point, tho it prob wont be actual foursquare
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:44 (seven years ago) link
i guess at some point it will become socially acceptable to go somewhere because u see a bunch of people u know 'checking in' there, its fucking creepy right now tho
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:46 (seven years ago) link
bro theres a reason u didnt get the invite
recommendations of (and specials offered by) places that are like the ones you go to and that your friends go to, data collection, ned raggett
― umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:46 (seven years ago) link
google appears to be pumping up its foursquareness btw
― umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:47 (seven years ago) link
idk abt checking in but just like the intersection of location and internet of things is gonna be a big deal
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:47 (seven years ago) link
exactly, sometimes you have to see beyond the products to think more about capabilities of the shit that's out there. i've never used foursquare and have no interest in it and wouldn't care if it disappeared tomorrow.
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:48 (seven years ago) link
hey guys i saw you all on foursquare checking in here. hey wheres the drinks at. hey where are you all going. hey wait up
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:48 (seven years ago) link
乒乓 you know you get to choose what you check into and when, rite
― umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:48 (seven years ago) link
i dont get why foursquare has to be 'social'
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:50 (seven years ago) link
rip paypal?
http://www.google.com/wallet/send-money/
― caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:50 (seven years ago) link
wish i had foursquare when i lived above a restaurant cause then i so wouldve been the mayor of that shit forever
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:51 (seven years ago) link
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:52 (seven years ago) link
it goes 'your friend checks in here a lot so it's probably your thing' xp to 乒乓
― umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:52 (seven years ago) link
paypal counters by now accepting bitcoins
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:52 (seven years ago) link
― umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:52 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
thats pretty obnoxious i have much better taste than my friends
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:54 (seven years ago) link
you can set it so it says 'your friend checks in here a lot so it's probably not your thing'
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:55 (seven years ago) link
aaaaaaaahhhh now i understand *installs foursquare on my iPhone 5*
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:56 (seven years ago) link
this is sort of random, but for example fucking livejournal was and is super easy to make fun of, but for the second half of my senior year of high school and my first year in college, it was actually a super profound service, because it let my friends and i write shit about our lives that only we'd see (via "friends only" posts), and it sort of enabled us to connect in a weird intimate way as a little group. that doesn't happen on facebook. that doesn't happen on tumblr. or at least not for me, not now. but for the time we were all on there it was something really neat, in retrospect.
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:57 (seven years ago) link
not that foursquare enables anything useful, but maybe it does for someone.
it's not something i'm interested in using, personally
livejournal was cool i had a livejournal, in fact still do
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:57 (seven years ago) link
lj was completely virtual tho, and anonymous (if u chose it), its the intersection of the virtual world and the real world that is gonna bring up some creepy and perhaps unexpectedly creepy situations and scenarios, a la foursquare
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:59 (seven years ago) link
facebook in its early days enabled some crazy shit
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:59 (seven years ago) link
how do i get linkedin to stop sending me emails?
― caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:59 (seven years ago) link
im gonna tape my phone to a drone and check in all over town
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 02:00 (seven years ago) link
― markers, Thursday, May 16, 2013 1:57 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I did the autojournal thing, so i use foursquare disconnected from all social media mainly to note in my journal when i go somewhere interesting.
― hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 16 May 2013 04:41 (seven years ago) link
Those one word yeps come off as so fucking haughty. Like "I will deign to address your rumour, but you shall get naught but one word from me, for I am so very important and my word shall be the final one on the subject." Ugh.
(even more annoying b/c like markers said he's normally right, which builds even more of a weird cult of personality around this dude who is basically a lonely beard just thinking baout angus young)
― sktsh, Thursday, 16 May 2013 09:08 (seven years ago) link
I am starting to merge all these jokers in my head into one guy w/suspenders frustrated with his suboptimal coffee experience.
The Verge is far and away the best of a terrible lot, but even then the writing isn't a patch on even Wired in its heyday.
― stet, Thursday, 16 May 2013 10:13 (seven years ago) link
i just totally did something at a place and forgot to check in on foursquare
― umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 10:25 (seven years ago) link
eugh
― hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 16 May 2013 11:47 (seven years ago) link
http://brooksreview.net/2013/05/fucking-dogs/
― markers, Saturday, 18 May 2013 02:44 (seven years ago) link
tbh I also don't like dogs, but I don't blog about it on a blog people have to pay for
― resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Saturday, 18 May 2013 02:48 (seven years ago) link
Gruber and his ilk's smug self-satisfaction and complete lack of self-awareness make me more guilty about using Apple products than basically anything else.
Also, I hope Ben Brooks gets mobbed by dogs everyday for the rest of his life.
― avant-sarsgaard (litel), Saturday, 18 May 2013 08:46 (seven years ago) link
excited to see gruber cover the tax stuff with the diligence he covered foxconn
― caek, Monday, 20 May 2013 22:23 (seven years ago) link
You mean "here's Apple's opening statement?"
― schwantz, Monday, 20 May 2013 22:52 (seven years ago) link
yes, it's "an interesting read"
― caek, Monday, 20 May 2013 23:19 (seven years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/05/21/senate-hearing
― markers, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 17:41 (seven years ago) link
ohhhh boy.
― caek, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 18:13 (seven years ago) link
looooooooool
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 18:40 (seven years ago) link
oh my
― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:10 (seven years ago) link
― the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 21:53 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YQXDQeKDlM
― markers, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:22 (seven years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/05/21/mccain
― markers, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:23 (seven years ago) link
us republicans hating change, whodathunk
― the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:38 (seven years ago) link
McCain's joke-writers in fine form
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:49 (seven years ago) link
John Siracusa @siracusa 32mNo cardboard sleeve on the Ponyo blu-ray. Upsetting.
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:57 (seven years ago) link
…
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:57 (seven years ago) link
literally upset that the box his optical media disc came in doesn't have an extra piece of trash on the outside
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:58 (seven years ago) link
upsetting
like, I dunno, reports of moderately-sized national disasters in distant states, or finding out that someone has been talking shit about you
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:59 (seven years ago) link
sorry but i don't have time for people who dislike him
― markers, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:59 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/marcoarment/status/336863716408705024
eh, I've said hyperbolic stuff on twitter too
siracusa's OS X writeups for Ars Technica obviously all classic, I just wanted to dump some mock rage on the internet
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 01:00 (seven years ago) link
ya siracusa is one of the better tech writers for sure i just thought that tweet was funny
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 01:05 (seven years ago) link
― markers, Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:59 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i just want to dwell for a moment on what an amazing sentence this is
*dwells* d(-_-)b
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 02:48 (seven years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/05/28/sweethome
― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 20:03 (seven years ago) link
haha omg his post is awful enough and then you read the fucking nail clipper review
― sktsh, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 20:27 (seven years ago) link
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/marco-arment-sells-the-magazine-to-its-editor-glenn-fleishman-209349501.html
― markers, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 16:04 (seven years ago) link
that's three
well, if you include tumblr
lol https://twitter.com/GlennF/status/339774183653404672
can't wait for Marco's high-end speaker review detailing how awesome Phish sound on a $50k rig.
― stet, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 16:11 (seven years ago) link
lol he is so awful
― caek, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 16:17 (seven years ago) link
would you guys rank them: gruber, then marco, then siracusa from worst to best? are there any writers who aren't part of their immediate circle that you would rank higher?
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 17:27 (seven years ago) link
I don't really consider Siracusa part of that armchair typographer crowd tbh.
― caek, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 18:02 (seven years ago) link
from worst to best? the opposite tbh. siracusa, marco, grub. when gruber is on he's on imo.
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 18:03 (seven years ago) link
haha armchair typographer
Siracusa >>>>>> (apart from shit Steve Jobs book review) >>> Grubes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marco >>>>> Trust & verify >>>>> Brooks
― stet, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 18:22 (seven years ago) link
stet otm
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 18:32 (seven years ago) link
when gruber is on he's on imo.
i agree with this, but he rarely is any more. he hasn't written two articles in a row that weren't embarrassingly bad or worse for like 6 years.
― caek, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 19:34 (seven years ago) link
marco is basically valueless as a writer though, so year, stet otm.
― caek, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 19:35 (seven years ago) link
in this post he compares tumblr dude to steve jobs... twice http://www.marco.org/2013/05/20/one-person-product nice way to simultaneously pat yrself on the back for being involved w something so important and backhandedly call yr boss a sociopath - tumblr is a nice website and all but its not exactly an iphone
― lag∞n, Thursday, 30 May 2013 00:05 (seven years ago) link
i didn't get those same sinister messagings from that article, but i did from the one about phish.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 30 May 2013 00:23 (seven years ago) link
Marco's writing is worthless, and so is The Magazine. The true believers in Tumblr are the same breed who jizzed on and on about MySpace until that platform got blown out of the water. I'm sure that soon, we'll be hearing about The Next Wordpress...oh wait, isn't that supposed to be SVBTLE or something?
Stet massively OTM.
― now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 30 May 2013 01:51 (seven years ago) link
http://www.marco.org/2013/05/30/coffee-storage
A reader asked via email:
How do you store your coffee?
I get this question a lot.
― the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 30 May 2013 23:14 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, the true horror comes when these guys link to something that has open comments, and then you see what their comments would be like if only they enabled them.
It's the one awesome think about their schticks that means we're spared page after page of "awesome post, you really hit the nail on the head with your writing as usual, Marco".
― stet, Thursday, 30 May 2013 23:16 (seven years ago) link
ha otm
― caek, Thursday, 30 May 2013 23:18 (seven years ago) link
do you guys like jeanlouis gasees blog?
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 31 May 2013 00:16 (seven years ago) link
i don't read it too often tbh
― markers, Friday, 31 May 2013 00:16 (seven years ago) link
maybe i should
maybe that would BE a good thing
maybe i should write myself a NOTE for MONDAY to do so
― markers, Friday, 31 May 2013 00:24 (seven years ago) link
does he have RSS feed? If not, he doesn't exist
― now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Friday, 31 May 2013 03:21 (seven years ago) link
He's made an app! http://www.macworld.com/article/2040883/meet-vesper-a-notes-app-with-an-all-star-development-team.html#tk.twt_jsnell
Making iOS software that doesn't sync is ... it's like making a phone where you can only call people in the same room. Or something.
― stet, Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:21 (seven years ago) link
hmmmm just saw this
― markers, Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:23 (seven years ago) link
"Q Branch""Vesper""mediocrely"
― Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:38 (seven years ago) link
lol @ The Incomparable in screenshiot
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 6 June 2013 17:18 (seven years ago) link
Am I horrible in hoping some ill befalls this?
― Millsner, Thursday, 6 June 2013 17:22 (seven years ago) link
No, because apps die a silent death and rarely get an obit.
There's nothing worse than people who think that we can design our way out of every user problem.
― now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:30 (seven years ago) link
"yeah there are already a million apps out there who solve the note taking non-problem on apps, but there's not a UI good enough for our immaculate taste, so we had to design one ourselves. It's by us for us unless you all are willing to raise your standards."
― now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:32 (seven years ago) link
his obsession with james bond might be the dorkiest thing about him
― diamonddave85, Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:49 (seven years ago) link
who's bought it?
― markers, Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:55 (seven years ago) link
who would?
― now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:59 (seven years ago) link
the greatest thing about next week would be if Apple would grant a trial-basis for app downloads
most apps do not see engagement beyond 2 weeks. This would clean up the app store a lot.
― now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:00 (seven years ago) link
i haven't bought it yet but i would and might
― markers, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:03 (seven years ago) link
not that i'd necessarily use it regularly
should be a 99c app
― diamonddave85, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:04 (seven years ago) link
should be a free evaluation and if it is a solution for me, I would buy it.
this idea that we have to spend a dollar to evaluate everything is stupid
― now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:15 (seven years ago) link
i would have grubes on my app team cause now people will buy it
― lag∞n, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:33 (seven years ago) link
lol definitely
wait until he links to it
― markers, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:34 (seven years ago) link
the one guy designs it i code it and grubes he links
― lag∞n, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:36 (seven years ago) link
ppl let him beta test all kinds of helvetica-heavy shit that he links to
― Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:45 (seven years ago) link
Gruber: Bond’s gadgets have always been at the intersection of utility and elegance. Serve a necessary purpose, reliably, and look good doing it. That’s as good a motto for a software company as any.
fucking james bond
― the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:19 (seven years ago) link
hoping it gets a feature that lets you wedgie gruber's underpants over his head
― the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:20 (seven years ago) link
I don't understand the hate for this dude but likewise don't understand how he can be the number one apple blogger.What do you guys think about kottke.org? He seems like he's in a similar group of commenter dudes who also make fonts on the side.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:43 (seven years ago) link
Gruber is sanctimonious. Kottke just likes linking to neat things and keeps the rest to himself, IME.
― Millsner, Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:52 (seven years ago) link
marco has posted about this, and now i am really not sure who i hate more
― the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 June 2013 22:56 (seven years ago) link
http://www.marco.org/2013/06/06/vesper
in which he goes on and on about balls
― the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 June 2013 22:57 (seven years ago) link
fucking srs
― lag∞n, Thursday, 6 June 2013 23:03 (seven years ago) link
wow that is just an unbelievable blog post right there
Loool at getting linked to by Marco as "resentful" for saying sync is critical when he, eh, says sync is critical. Balls.
― stet, Thursday, 6 June 2013 23:33 (seven years ago) link
lmfaoooooo
― 乒乓, Thursday, 6 June 2013 23:34 (seven years ago) link
balls
― diamonddave85, Friday, 7 June 2013 00:42 (seven years ago) link
@gruber 8hHacker News hasn’t had a single link to Daring Fireball in months, so I presume DF is blacklisted. But why Vesper?
― the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 7 June 2013 02:18 (seven years ago) link
maybe hacker news just thinks you're a nutsack
― the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 7 June 2013 02:19 (seven years ago) link
thats low
― lag∞n, Friday, 7 June 2013 02:23 (seven years ago) link
just didnt get enuff upvotes to get to the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5833388
― diamonddave85, Friday, 7 June 2013 03:17 (seven years ago) link
― lag∞n, Thursday, June 6, 2013 7:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
amazing post, so vaudeville
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 7 June 2013 05:03 (seven years ago) link
http://www.imore.com/debug-15-simmons-wiskus-gruber-and-vesper
― markers, Friday, 7 June 2013 05:18 (seven years ago) link
Fuckin helveticunts
― sktsh, Friday, 7 June 2013 09:07 (seven years ago) link
Dr Drang otm http://www.leancrew.com/all-this/2013/06/form-and-function/
― stet, Friday, 7 June 2013 12:10 (seven years ago) link
flat design
imo this should basically be the free square in your game of 2013 ux-dude buzzword bingo
― scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 7 June 2013 19:34 (seven years ago) link
http://shawnblanc.net/2013/06/arment-vesper/
yeesh
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Friday, 7 June 2013 19:41 (seven years ago) link
it's pretty debatable whether or not "export" is a "power user feature"
― markers, Friday, 7 June 2013 19:46 (seven years ago) link
Vesper’s current lack of sync, export, etc. isn’t an oversight; it’s an intentional omission at this time.
hah no matter how hard any of them try they just cant bring themselves to justify it
― lag∞n, Friday, 7 June 2013 19:54 (seven years ago) link
how is "iPad" a "power user feature"
― markers, Friday, 7 June 2013 19:57 (seven years ago) link
it's another fucking hardware platform
balls, balls
― lag∞n, Friday, 7 June 2013 19:57 (seven years ago) link
HOW CAN YOU SHIP THE PLAYBOOK WITHOUT AN EMAIL APP
― markers, Friday, 7 June 2013 20:00 (seven years ago) link
balls balls balls
― lag∞n, Friday, 7 June 2013 20:01 (seven years ago) link
http://www.marco.org/2012/01/22/rim-ceos-stepping-down
― markers, Friday, 7 June 2013 20:02 (seven years ago) link
nailed it
― diamonddave85, Friday, 7 June 2013 20:05 (seven years ago) link
this has nothing to do with apple but click on it
http://video.pandodaily.com/2fm
― markers, Friday, 7 June 2013 20:58 (seven years ago) link
"One thing that has really been on my mind lately is the future of media." – Ben Brooks
― diamonddave85, Friday, 7 June 2013 21:10 (seven years ago) link
― markers, Friday, 7 June 2013 21:11 (seven years ago) link
What an asshole
― waterface, Friday, 7 June 2013 21:12 (seven years ago) link
ban these words: media, content
― lag∞n, Friday, 7 June 2013 21:14 (seven years ago) link
sam biddle was going off on this earlier https://twitter.com/samfbiddle
― markers, Friday, 7 June 2013 21:21 (seven years ago) link
I am in no way suggesting that summoning Cthulhu to rise out of San Francisco Bay and massacre all of Silicon Valley would be a good thing, but I wouldn't do anything to stop it either.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 7 June 2013 21:39 (seven years ago) link
We have a different name because we make a different sandwich. A true Philly hoagie is so much better than a “sub”, it’s not even funny. We’re famous for the cheesesteak, but the Philly hoagie is just as great. (Sarcone’s is the best; Primo’s are excellent too.)
i hate this guy.
― Clay, Saturday, 8 June 2013 00:15 (seven years ago) link
He quoted all of marco's "balls" post
― stet, Saturday, 8 June 2013 00:22 (seven years ago) link
have we mentioned that he calls himself the "director" of the app?
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Sunday, 9 June 2013 17:49 (seven years ago) link
So basically Grubes acted like a demanding, irascible client with very specific requirements about the design. Wonder if he paid them their hourly rate during development or if everyone was just in it for equity.
― Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Sunday, 9 June 2013 17:56 (seven years ago) link
taking six months to dev this thing absolutely suggests that an asshole director demanding meaningless iterations. Clients like Gruber are fucking horrible.
― now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Sunday, 9 June 2013 19:03 (seven years ago) link
Clients people
― now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Sunday, 9 June 2013 19:07 (seven years ago) link
as someone from philly, NAH
― 乒乓, Sunday, 9 June 2013 19:29 (seven years ago) link
the pizza in new york is so much better which is why they dont even call it pizza there they call it a different name like how always they change the name for the best stuff cause its better different
― lag∞n, Sunday, 9 June 2013 19:34 (seven years ago) link
was kinda sad that th olde timey boston names of grinder and tonic for sub and soda didnt even make a blip on those maps rip
― lag∞n, Sunday, 9 June 2013 19:35 (seven years ago) link
If you pretend to yourself that Arment hates those dudes' guts, his post about Vesper still makes sense
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 June 2013 11:22 (seven years ago) link
so has anyone actually tried it?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 10 June 2013 11:37 (seven years ago) link
and pay five bucks for a notes app that doesn't sync with anything? no
― the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 10 June 2013 11:40 (seven years ago) link
but but it's so elegant
― stet, Monday, 10 June 2013 11:57 (seven years ago) link
― the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 10 June 2013 12:16 (seven years ago) link
i think marco actually did this better by taking a shit on a tshirt and selling it for $15
― diamonddave85, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:35 (seven years ago) link
The original iPhone was designed for a world where smartphones were horrid little button- and scroll-wheel-driven devices, and where proper humane computer interfaces were driven by mouse and trackpad cursors. The iPhone blended the two — the size and cellular networking of the smartphone, the humaneness of Mac-style UI design — and did so by introducing something new. The touchscreen.The design of the iPhone software was entirely informed by the fact that this was a new experience, it was nothing like using an existing smartphone, nor anything like using a Mac or Windows PC. It needed training wheels, to get people up to speed. Thus, to name one small example, why iOS buttons have tended to look so very button-y. To inform the user, as clearly as possible, that this is a button that can be tapped.
The design of the iPhone software was entirely informed by the fact that this was a new experience, it was nothing like using an existing smartphone, nor anything like using a Mac or Windows PC. It needed training wheels, to get people up to speed. Thus, to name one small example, why iOS buttons have tended to look so very button-y. To inform the user, as clearly as possible, that this is a button that can be tapped.
is he capable of writing anything without sounding like a total choad? "humaneness," christ
― scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:03 (seven years ago) link
tbf "humane" is a term of art in industrial/interface design and typography
― caek, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:25 (seven years ago) link
i'm aware of that, but it doesn't make it sound any less ridiculous
― scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:43 (seven years ago) link
not to come off sounding glib - as somebody who does ux for a living i guess i just reserve a lot of ire for people who overuse "humane" and "empathetic" etc
― scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:46 (seven years ago) link
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7360/9024040494_c2c209f6d0_b.jpg
― caek, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 22:57 (seven years ago) link
aw it's his wife
― markers, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 22:58 (seven years ago) link
shirt/tie and jeans
jesus christ
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 22:59 (seven years ago) link
Yeugh
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 14 June 2013 01:34 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/marcoarment/status/345723357943197696
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Saturday, 15 June 2013 03:51 (seven years ago) link
SMH
― schwantz, Sunday, 16 June 2013 00:03 (seven years ago) link
Got away with an expired transfer on Metro Bus, listening to homeless guys argue, reading a free weekly paper. This is me.
― brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 16 June 2013 04:08 (seven years ago) link
you should all spend the next hour and a half or whatever listening to the episode of the talk show that that picture comes from
― markers, Sunday, 16 June 2013 05:18 (seven years ago) link
apparently he met forstall after the iphone 4 announcement back in 2010
― markers, Sunday, 16 June 2013 05:19 (seven years ago) link
asked him if he really used a loupe (he did)
also the episode has a bunch of random people on it like merlin mann, scott simpson, his wife, blah blah
I actually tried to listen to to it yesterday. I got to the 'comedian' and had to shut it off. Surprised I made it that far.
― sofatruck, Sunday, 16 June 2013 16:30 (seven years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/07/09/maximum-viable-products
he sure does admire expensive stuff for being expensive
― caek, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 21:06 (seven years ago) link
i feel like there's this submeme of 'don't price your products too cheaply' going around among entrepreneuer types
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 23:52 (seven years ago) link
i absolutely get that line of thinking, at least from the point of view developer.
but gruber is not a dev. he's a consumer/critic and he seems to be actively critical of inexpensive stuff simply because it's inexpensive.
i suppose that's fine when you are a cryptoconservative pulling in six figures.
― caek, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 23:57 (seven years ago) link
dude he wants to pimp the meme of "it's okay to set your prices high" because he IS in the fucking development game. He doesn't want to lose money. And BTW his fucking app is overpriced and wouldn't make a dent in the world if it wasn't him pimping it. It's a classic solution looking for a problem, window dressing looking for a fucking window.
I don't find him conservative at all, at least judging from his overtly political posts.
"maximal apps" are nothing more than vanity projects or, as the fucking moron David Morin says, "bespoke" apps where devs jerk off into code, self-promote it as "disruptive", and then bask in the glory of the five other devs who want to pay $5.99 for five seconds of geek validation.
I would love to see a list of Gruber's paid consulting gigs related to typography.
― now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 02:54 (seven years ago) link
putting this in here
http://www.marco.org/bugshot
― markers, Sunday, 14 July 2013 05:13 (seven years ago) link
that icon is gross
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Sunday, 14 July 2013 22:34 (seven years ago) link
eh i don't think it's too bad
― markers, Sunday, 14 July 2013 23:49 (seven years ago) link
charging for it is gross
― shaane, Monday, 15 July 2013 02:21 (seven years ago) link
icon looks like two chairs doin it
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 15 July 2013 15:08 (seven years ago) link
to the sound of phish, no doubt
― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, 15 July 2013 15:17 (seven years ago) link
maximals, roll out!
― Nhex, Monday, 15 July 2013 15:41 (seven years ago) link
blasting some Phish and coding real hard here
― mh, Monday, 15 July 2013 15:46 (seven years ago) link
marco and gruber are repping hard for this stratechery guy. is he also tainted by their reps, or is he solid dude?
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 15 July 2013 16:27 (seven years ago) link
jesus
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/07/23/dubai-case
― caek, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:37 (seven years ago) link
hey I found this one account that contradicts every other account in mainstream news and casts doubt on a woman's story of sexual assault
oh wait, this single article is basically a press release by the government that oppressed her? my bad.
― mh, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:40 (seven years ago) link
― caek, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:43 (seven years ago) link
i was just listening to the talk show
― markers, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:47 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/gruber/status/360905880075636736
― markers, Sunday, 28 July 2013 00:58 (seven years ago) link
pvmic
― Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 28 July 2013 01:27 (seven years ago) link
Washington doesn’t want to see Apple fail; they want Apple to continue making massive profits. They just want a bigger slice of those juicy profits kicked back.
Translation: I am as high as a kite.
― i too went to college (silby), Monday, 5 August 2013 00:41 (seven years ago) link
that seems ... totally inarguable?
― eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 5 August 2013 00:58 (seven years ago) link
actually forget it
― eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 5 August 2013 00:59 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/yV6VYNP.jpg
― markers, Monday, 5 August 2013 01:05 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/RMQmn2I.jpg
― markers, Monday, 5 August 2013 01:07 (seven years ago) link
there hasn't been a talk show in too long but i guess he was/is on vacation
― markers, Monday, 5 August 2013 18:34 (seven years ago) link
http://www.flickr.com/photos/textlad/7983484366/
― markers, Friday, 6 September 2013 05:14 (seven years ago) link
seriously the casual polo shirt or hoodie seems much more a valley affectation than just wearing a reasonable shirt eventually
― space is deep (mh), Friday, 6 September 2013 05:18 (seven years ago) link
forestell always did look a bit radioshack for apple
― caek, Friday, 6 September 2013 05:19 (seven years ago) link
I think Sir Jony might actually be in his PJs there.
― i too went to college (silby), Friday, 6 September 2013 05:21 (seven years ago) link
if you live in SF having a zip-up sweater-type thing is really handy. usually those end up being hoodies. i kinda hate hoodies but i have two.
― eris bueller (lukas), Friday, 6 September 2013 05:28 (seven years ago) link
lol be serious people that rich can afford knitwear like they do everywhere else the weather is sometimes in the 60s. it has nothing to do with the climate.
― caek, Friday, 6 September 2013 05:30 (seven years ago) link
you can tell ive's hoody is euro-nice and not googlebus wear
― caek, Friday, 6 September 2013 05:31 (seven years ago) link
googlebus?
― Nhex, Friday, 6 September 2013 05:33 (seven years ago) link
the bus google engineers ride to work, presumably
― i too went to college (silby), Friday, 6 September 2013 05:33 (seven years ago) link
apples famous for wearing jeans cause they so raw
― lag∞n, Friday, 6 September 2013 12:18 (seven years ago) link
good call
oh man, I met up with a friend when I was in SF and since I'd just been wandering around all day I was wearing a hoodie and felt way overdressed since she'd just got off work. In retrospect, it was near the financial district so people probably weren't thinking "ugh, slob" they were probably thinking "ugh, those damn tech people"
― space is deep (mh), Friday, 6 September 2013 13:36 (seven years ago) link
felt way _underdressed_ that is
are you guys seriously mad that rich people arent dressing snootily enough
― socki (s1ocki), Friday, 6 September 2013 22:29 (seven years ago) link
pat smear and taylor hawkins are dressed like they're ready to do server backups
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 6 September 2013 23:57 (seven years ago) link
More that the SF clothing aesthetic is to look frumpy even if you're hailed as a paragon of industrial design.
― space is deep (mh), Saturday, 7 September 2013 00:08 (seven years ago) link
i am furious at these rich people for letting the side down
― caek, Saturday, 7 September 2013 02:02 (seven years ago) link
lol at the impeccable reading comprehension displayed in part 2 of this http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/09/18/barry-randall.
― caek, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 21:04 (seven years ago) link
also lol at him implying he understands processor architecture
hey he wrote some perl scripts once
― beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 21:07 (seven years ago) link
ok, I looked it up and he apparently has a computer science degree! this actually explains why he knows everything.
― beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 21:08 (seven years ago) link
i have tweets for y'all
― markers, Friday, 20 September 2013 02:49 (seven years ago) link
few minutes
https://twitter.com/cdespinosa/status/380762806615670785
― markers, Friday, 20 September 2013 02:52 (seven years ago) link
he was in college!
― beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Friday, 20 September 2013 02:58 (seven years ago) link
seriously, what a fucking turd
ha roasted
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 September 2013 03:13 (seven years ago) link
how often do you think people who work at Apple want to son him but they can't since they still work there
― beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Friday, 20 September 2013 03:25 (seven years ago) link
100% of the time, especially the 5 people assigned as his handlers/designated leakers
― i too went to college (silby), Friday, 20 September 2013 06:27 (seven years ago) link
Tinker Tailor Soldier Gruber
― fields of salmon, Monday, 23 September 2013 20:41 (seven years ago) link
Trying to describe the difference in usability between the iPad Air and its predecessors is an exercise which puts my wordsmithing skills to the test.
― sktsh, Saturday, 16 November 2013 14:22 (seven years ago) link
WordPress Adds Built-In Support for Markdown ★Finally.
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 02:31 (seven years ago) link
finally
trolled
― eris bueller (lukas), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 05:32 (seven years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2014/01/15/cook-ftc
This paragraph strikes me as the central thesis of the entire memo. In a nut, it’s a sincere version of “Don’t be evil.”
*barf*
― schwantz, Thursday, 16 January 2014 02:00 (seven years ago) link
the memo was inside a nut
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 January 2014 02:01 (seven years ago) link
thats an autocorrect fail, he meant to say "i'm a nut,"
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 January 2014 02:14 (seven years ago) link
jon "the nut" grubers krazy apple computer blog!!
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 January 2014 02:16 (seven years ago) link
i nutted on this memo, or as we call it, "grubering"
― mh, Thursday, 16 January 2014 02:19 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/6jSeRpH.jpg
― markers, Thursday, 16 January 2014 03:04 (seven years ago) link
check out the site
― markers, Friday, 14 February 2014 19:44 (seven years ago) link
"site" rhymes with paul bucheit
who is holding a gun itt
this story simply could not have been told w/o a lot of dots http://daringfireball.net/linked/2014/02/24/thousand-nos-yes
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 05:12 (seven years ago) link
Some Classic Claim Chowdhry ★So much to choose from, but here’s a good one from 2009:
Investors should not think the upcoming version of iPhone 3 is going to be as successful as iPhone 2.0 because it will have solid competition from Palm Pre, developed by ex-Apple designer Jon Rubinstein.
Palm Pre has a superior operating system than iPhone. It runs on a better network — Sprint CDMA — versus iPhone which runs on GSM.
I mean, obviously, the original assertion was comical, but dragging up things in 2014 that someone said on the internet in 2009 is a deeply, deeply vindictive and fearful tactic often rooted in deep personal insecurity. If this guy was a co-worker I'd steer around him.
― fields of salmon, Thursday, 20 March 2014 19:46 (seven years ago) link
he's really mad about that new apple book huh
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 20 March 2014 20:38 (seven years ago) link
seek out the 9to5 mac post about jobs throwing a pencil at eddy cue
― markers, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 02:04 (seven years ago) link
how about u seek it out and link it here
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 03:07 (seven years ago) link
throw a pencil at eddy cue yrself, carpe diem
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 17:26 (seven years ago) link
http://twitter.com/pschiller/status/447769180977504256
― markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:32 (seven years ago) link
Damn, sick comeback!!
― 龜, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:37 (seven years ago) link
in general it seems like the book isn't worth it. wish she'd distilled the new info into a solid article or something though.
check out yesterday's wsj piece about the original iphone. i'll see if i can find a link for slock so he odesn't need to take any time away from youtube
― markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:41 (seven years ago) link
click the link at the end of this article http://www.loopinsight.com/2014/03/25/apple-engineer-recalls-the-iphones-birth/
― markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:42 (seven years ago) link
markers, you're sounding disturbingly like one of those dudes who posts to fan sites for anime or w/e who think somebody else is a moron for not remembering which episode of Sailor Moon involved some incident
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:47 (seven years ago) link
i love you man, but this is a bad look
how do you get that?
― markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:48 (seven years ago) link
i'll see if i can find a link for slock so he odesn't need to take any time away from youtube― markers, Thursday, March 27, 2014 9:41 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
― markers, Thursday, March 27, 2014 9:41 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
Oh shit :0
― 龜, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:48 (seven years ago) link
i think that was meant to be more about his laziness than anything else?
― markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:49 (seven years ago) link
and the tone was just returning the volley. anyway if i'm being an apple defender here ok but i'm not even sure i am really but who knows
i don't think apple is fucked
― markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:50 (seven years ago) link
assuming that we would know the significance of that post in relation to apple historythat we would know what 9to5 mac is, probably a blog or something?that we want to go to some other site to read about what is probably a passing anecdote
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:52 (seven years ago) link
well the first thing was just in the news, it's not old. i'm surprised you're not aware of the second, at least due to mark gurman's scoops, but i guess i could be super down the rabbit hole here. lastly, you guys do spend a lot of time talking about fedoras and other useless shit, so i'm sorry you wouldn't want to spend two seconds on this
― markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:54 (seven years ago) link
and yes, this also qualifies as useless shit.
anyway, we're friends, lets not fight
― markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:55 (seven years ago) link
I have read a lot of random apple stuff in my day but I have no idea who mark gurman is, as far as data points go
I'd say that crafting a cool post tying that anecdote in would be neat!
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:56 (seven years ago) link
he broke the healthbook stuff the other week and has a lot of other apple scoops. sorry, i guess i really *am* down in a rabbit hole here, even in respect to you guys. i should probably spend less time following the minutae on twitter and elsewhere, but for now and the past couple years i really have, at the expense of other interests too
― markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:58 (seven years ago) link
i read gil amelio's memoir last year ffs
all im saying markers is "go look up a blog post" is a bad look, why not just post a link to it if you really think its that interesting
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 27 March 2014 13:25 (seven years ago) link
i'm not sure it is, but here you go: http://9to5mac.com/2014/03/19/eddy-cue-throws-a-pen-at-haunted-empires-yukari-kanes-accuracy-says-story-isnt-true/
― markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:00 (seven years ago) link
forgive my mortal transgression of not linking.
― markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:01 (seven years ago) link
now i wish you hadnt
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:02 (seven years ago) link
next time i won't
― markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:03 (seven years ago) link
it's good to be back
I skipped that link the first time tbh because I assumed it was about eddy cue and the pencil. But it was not and was interesting
― stet, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:21 (seven years ago) link
gonna put that picture itt
― markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:23 (seven years ago) link
got distracted for a moment, but
http://i.imgur.com/JCCTJyi.jpg
from macrumors
― markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:30 (seven years ago) link
shit look at that thing
Wait, what's that? Were they working ON IPHONE in G3 days?
― stet, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:49 (seven years ago) link
no i think it started in 2005. they were trying to mimic the speed of what the phone hardware would be maybe? something like that? it says in the wsj somewhere
― markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:59 (seven years ago) link
for some reason that reminds me of Jobs using OpenStep on a Thinkpad when he returned to Apple because he thought their laptops were garbage
maybe a fierce G4 (G5?) hater was on the iPhone team
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 20:27 (seven years ago) link
I still shed a tear for all those children who were laid off from their jobs in the Motorola factory in 2006. You couldn't meet a stauncher group of PowerPC/OS 9 nationalists.
― fields of salmon, Thursday, 27 March 2014 21:21 (seven years ago) link
good link coming in
― markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 02:34 (seven years ago) link
http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Windows-Azure/Learn-how-Vesper-built-offline-sync-using-Azure-Mobile-Services-
― markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 02:51 (seven years ago) link
watch it
at least a little
so basically they needed an app cloud service. they don't mention any built-in synching merge tools, so presumably they made their own or used some other off-the-shelf library. from the code shown, it seems like there's minimal platform-specific code going on (it looked like javascript from what I watched) so it remains pretty portable.
IMO they're getting a promo deal backed by the video, and if their app gets large enough that they need to reevaluate their needs they could jump to any other cloud platform in a heartbeat
idk if this is apple dropping the ball on iCloud sync (which they have) as much as people not wanting to be locked in, in case they want multiple platforms for their app.
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 03:05 (seven years ago) link
i'm not sure why they chose this really. br3nt s1mmons does leave in seattle.
― markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 03:12 (seven years ago) link
he's the one who knew stuff about azure for some reason i think.
ugh, if you click that link make sure you manually add the "-" to the end of the url or you won't get the video
― markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 03:13 (seven years ago) link
at least i didn't
there are limited app cloud options, really
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 03:34 (seven years ago) link
And is a worthy partner for Gruber. Christ, his dev blog is so painful to read I had to unsubscribe. Endless "do my homework for me", obvious mining of dead-ends, NIH all over the place, unsubstantiated resistance to the right solutions and manic over-engineering. Explains a lot about why NNW performance was so awful, and definitely explains the horrific state of its nib files.
― stet, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:28 (seven years ago) link
― markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:29 (seven years ago) link
you've brought actual developers with axes to grind in on this now, markers
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:32 (seven years ago) link
damn true
― markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:33 (seven years ago) link
as I said to someone recently, no one hates software developers more than other developers. and if you don't, then you're probably part of the problem.
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:34 (seven years ago) link
the funny thing about talking about software dev and vesper is that i actually wrote a notes app for the ti 83 plus back in the day
― markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:37 (seven years ago) link
you can store ten strings on it. i stored all the notes as a series of numbers in a matrix instead of storing them in the strings.
― markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:38 (seven years ago) link
you convert each number back to a character, and each character back into a number, to go from what's stored to what's displayed. something like that.
― markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:39 (seven years ago) link
p.s. ticalc.org existed long before the app store did
your notes application was probably better implemented than vesper
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:42 (seven years ago) link
too bad you can't make a living off writing shit in ti basic
― markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:47 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/pschiller/favorites
― markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 02:41 (six years ago) link
― socki (s1ocki), Friday, 18 April 2014 14:21 (six years ago) link
is it just me or has grubby been a lot more friendly towards micro$hit since his azure coming out video
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Friday, 18 April 2014 15:17 (six years ago) link
microsoft is pretty clearly doing better work as of late imo
― lag∞n, Friday, 18 April 2014 16:35 (six years ago) link
good comp sci for sure
that's always been true
would work at microsoft before google 100%
would never work at apple
― caek, Friday, 18 April 2014 16:39 (six years ago) link
Microsoft's got heart, just having fun out there.
― the slow death of America's rich pastoral heritage (silby), Friday, 18 April 2014 16:39 (six years ago) link
http://bit.ly/1kJ5hqf
― markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 16:59 (six years ago) link
developersdevelopersdevelopersdevelopersDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS
― purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 18 April 2014 17:00 (six years ago) link
i would be friends with steve ballmer
― markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 17:01 (six years ago) link
At that point, Mr. Ballmer picked up a chair and threw it across the room hitting a table in his office. Mr. Ballmer then said: “Fucking Eric Schmidt is a fucking pussy. I’m going to fucking bury that guy, I have done it before, and I will do it again. I’m going to fucking kill Google.” ….
http://battellemedia.com/archives/2005/09/ballmer_throws_a_chair_at_fing_google.php
― markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 17:02 (six years ago) link
i hope that really happened
― markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 17:03 (six years ago) link
fing_google
― purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 18 April 2014 17:14 (six years ago) link
what the hell that link isn't even working.
― markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 17:30 (six years ago) link
i am renaming myself to that hoos
― markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 17:31 (six years ago) link
Every picture of Steve Ballmer looks like it was taken a few seconds after or before he threw a chair across the room.
― brimstead, Friday, 18 April 2014 18:30 (six years ago) link
http://instagram.com/p/nJuoFMw5Ew/
― markers, Friday, 25 April 2014 03:54 (six years ago) link
-happy 18th Birthday, marco's son-thanks mr gruber. you know I love cake!*grubes dramatically launches instagram*-I hope you also love this delicious can of VINTAGE CLAIM CHOWDER!!
― sktsh, Friday, 25 April 2014 07:35 (six years ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 April 2014 14:51 (six years ago) link
― purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 25 April 2014 17:06 (six years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2014/05/16/heathrow-samsung-translation
haha good one
― caek, Saturday, 17 May 2014 17:25 (six years ago) link
pass the ginsy winsies
― sktsh, Saturday, 17 May 2014 17:32 (six years ago) link
Someday, you’re going to want to be able to say, “I’ve been using Vesper since back when it was only for iPhone.”
― schwantz, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 15:46 (six years ago) link
lol at UPDATE
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2014/06/16/buckyball
― caek, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 15:51 (six years ago) link
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 15:51 (six years ago) link
― sktsh, Friday, April 25, 2014 7:35 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think of this post often
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 15:53 (six years ago) link
ha yeah so good
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 16:02