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I'm home, I'm leaning towards bored and there's nothing on TV, so I thought I'd start another of my music quizzes, since I still have loads of questions left. First answer wins the point, 50 questions, and there may be some sort of prize for the winner. I'll start it soon.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

The questions will come from the couple of hundred I put together for a Trivial Pursuit variant with a bunch of friends. Some are easy, some aren't. I'm selecting them at random.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

once i win you can give me the prize in person when we (hopefully), meet this week. fire away!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

If you're the only one watching, Julio, your chances are good!

1. Same name, but two are less famous groups: what did the Shadows, Stranglers and Crickets have in common?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

they'll be tears before bedtime...

blueski, Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

They all had to change their names at one point?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sorry, Dom - I don't think any of the groups to which I refer changed their names.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

this is a stab in the dark...were ceratin members of all three killed on a plane crash?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Afraid not, Julio.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

did all three have a single of theirs banned by radio at one time?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sorry Julio, no again.

Well, no right answers in ten minutes or so. I'll leave it there for a bit, but also fire out...

2. Whose first recordings were as part of a group called The Creations, in the mid-'60s?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ah, another rule I made last time I did this that is worth using again. To stop whoever has the best connection just firing off loads of guesses, I will only take ONE guess from a person, then they are not entitled to another guess until at least one other person has had a stab.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

no idea but...Yardbirds?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

No, I'm after an individual who was a member of The Creations - they weren't a group that changed their name then got famous.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Lou Reed?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Jimmy page?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think Lou's first were as Louis Reed - I have a very cute one called Merry-Go-Round. So, no. I seem to have (randomly) started with two really tough ones.

And no - there is no Yardbirds connection at all.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Eric Clapton

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

another question then

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sorry Dom - the Yardbirds connection has not materialised in the last minute.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Okay, I'll start a third. Questions will expire after 30 minutes, and I'll give the answer. Fortunately this one is easier, I think...

3. Who co-wrote, with Sonny Burke, the songs for Lady And The Tramp?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

you're wrong about the easy part...this quiz must be more indie, I think

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Do you mean that it's not indie enough? It's true, no white rock questions yet, except sort of the first one. Some will turn up as we go, I expect.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

only a joke really...pre-80s and a lot of my knowledge goes to pieces. I'll keep watching for a while (though i'm going home soon).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

watching and trying to answer that is...

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Okay, the answer to Q1 was that all three bands backed Bobby Vee - only the Crickets mentioned were the famous band of that name.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Okay, we'll try another...

4. Who wrote I Write The Songs?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Can only Julio and Dom play? Cause that's Peggy Lee. Remember that from an obit earlier this year.

sj (sinner), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Num. 3, that is.

sj (sinner), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Which question are you answering SJ? And anyone can play. More seriously, that is correct for Q3 - we have the first right answer! Ah, you now tell me it's Q3.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

So we still have a few minutes for Q2 and Q4 was asked recently.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've just recalled that the early leader in the first quiz I did a while back was CJ: now sj is winning. There is some meaning there, surely?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

i guess amg-ing all the answers and getting the prize that way is too shifty, huh? too bad, 'cos it's real easy that way.

mitch lastnamewithheld, Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Okay, Q2 is now withdrawn. The answer was Al Green.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Q4: Hal David?

sj (sinner), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

You shouldn't be able to find every answer that way, mitch, but I can hardly tell if that's what someone is doing. If there's a prize at all, it'll be hardly worth having, so it's only worth joining in if you will have fun doing so, and I don't know if that is a fun way of doing it.

Sorry sj, nope.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

You can still keep trying for 4, but here is the next one...

5. Who wrote the lines "I believe in the web of fate, and I believe I'm going to be late, so I'll be leaving"?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

That'd be the Buzzcocks, Pete Shelley, yes?

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

And Q4 was Barry Manilow, I think.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Correct on Q5, Sean, but not on 4 - he covered it.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Q4 is still available, but here's the next...

6. What is Tom Jones' real surname?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

erm... Something fantastically Welsh. But 'Jones' is Welsh, so I'm at a loss.

sj (sinner), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

sj: Jones was his middle name, oddly.

Okay, Q4 is withdrawn: the answer was Bruce Johnston out of the Beach Boys.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Time for another one (though 6 remains open)...

7. Who were Bob Marley's two partners in the Wailers?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Bunny Wailer and Pete Tosh

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dom is of course correct. Q6 remains open, but we continue:

8. Who wrote Solitaire, a hit for Andy Williams and the Carpenters?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Jimmy Webb?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

We are getting some of the standard good old guesses for songwriters here (Webb and Hal David earlier), but no.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Neil Sedaka. Also a standard guess, but the right one.

sj (sinner), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

sj is right, and leaps into the lead!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

9. Who played keyboards on Space Oddity?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think I saw this on a documentary once... Mr Rick Wakeman?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dom is correct! One of those stupid bits of trivia.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

10. What was Whitney Houston's mum's group?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Q6 = Woodward, by the way. A fairly famous retail chain, too.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh well done Sean - that leaves SJ, Dom and Sean all in joint first with two each. I was about to withdraw Q6 too. That leaves only #10 open.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, her aunt is Dionne Warwick, so... The Shirelles?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm not sure I follow the 'logic' there Dom! Not correct.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

I know the answer but I thought it was something else and looked it up to be sure, so I won't say anything here.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Um, okay Sean. I don't know how you can tell that no one else looks these things up, though.

And Whitney and Dionne are cousins, in fact.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Okay, Q10 stays open, but it's time for another randomly selected question...

11. By what name was Norma Dolores Egstrom better known?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Q10: Does Elvis' backup singers for 1968 Comeback special count?

sj (sinner), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Cissie Houston and the Houstonettes

A real stab in the dark.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Q11. Peggy Lee

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

The finally dead Peggy Lee.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Not fast enough to get Peggy Lee for a SECOND answer.

sj (sinner), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sorry sj - that wasn't really her group, and she has sung backing vocals elsewhere too. Including for the Neville Brothers, with a teenaged Whitney helping out, incidentally. And there was the family band, which I think gave Dionne her start too. I'm after her group that made loads of records - really good ones too.

Billy's guess is wrong too, unsurprisingly, but he gets in first on Q11. As I said, randomly picked by the computer!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

If anyone else was looking this stuff up they'd already have given the answer, because it's really easy to find. Obv. if sj or Dom come up with it now they're cheating, and not just working on sweet inspiration. =)

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

I will give that to Sean - the answer is the Sweet Inspirations, in case the hint is not obvious - and we continue with...

12. By what name is Ian Kilminster better known?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

LEMMY

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sean is lightning fast and spot on!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Martin, I was just joking. It was killing me so I looked it up, felt stupid, got over it.

sj (sinner), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Lemmy of Motorhead (can't do the umlauts)

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

I better get my points in now, because I'm going to be leaving to run some errands soon and will miss out on the fun!

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

I thought you weren't very serious, sj, but I remembered there was the family group, which wasn't what I was after, so used your comment as a hook to point that out.

13. Which TV show theme did the Dickies cover?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Banana Splits

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Na na na nana nana


one banana, two banana....etc

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Billy is correct, though out of tune.

14. Name the two members of Happy Flowers (I don't require their real names).

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mr. Anus and Mr. Horribly Charred Infant.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sean is right - and I'm only guessing that those are not their real names...

15. What was the Pretty Things' revolutionary concept album?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

SF Sorrow

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

This is my cue to skidoo. Hopefully this will still be going when I return. Good luck, everyone else!

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'll ignore the jibe about my singing

for the time being anyway.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Right again, Billy. Ah, Sean is giving others a chance to catch up!

16. By what name is bluesman Peter Chartman better known?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

Having these quizzes without me -- and then you ask the question I don't the answer to! *stumbles off crying*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sorry, Ned - I'm sure you'll know some of them. Obviously this thread is just my attempt to increase my number of posts to your level. I figure another 5,000 questions and I'll be catching you up...

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'd point out that with only 15 questions gone, and the top scorer on 5 (and he's wandered off!), someone could come from nowhere to win.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Then I won't be quite so alone any more. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yes, but if you keep answering me, I won't catch up at all! Actually, take away that first clause - Mark S is the only one who could conceivably catch you.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

Okay, question 16 remains open (move away from rock and the answers slow down!), but here's the next one, which will be got instantly...

17. Which #1 hit single did Big Black cover?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

The model

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

See? Billy is right.

18. Name three of the four members of T.Rex.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Marc Bolan, Steve Took, Mickey Finn

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Can someone tie down Billy? I didn't even get the chance to answer the T. Rex question! ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, I'll take that, though the line-up was really Bolan, Finn, Steve Currie and Bill Legend - I'm not sure that they were ever called T. Rex (rather than Tyrannosaurus Rex) while Took was still there. Still, my pedantry has limits...

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ned, that's an offer I can't refuse!

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Billy is now joint first with Sean, who isn't about.

19. UHF had a minor hit in 1991 with UHF. Who is UHF better known as?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Note that Q16 is still unanswered!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Moby!

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

You lucky man, Billy. ;-) And yes, it was shortened to T. Rex after Took's departure, but hey.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Billy is correct again, and takes the lead!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

20. By what name is Ellas McDaniel better known?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

Bo Diddley.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Answer to number 16, please.

sj (sinner), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

And Ned is off the mark! Note again that Q16 is still unanswered and available for a few more minutes(I'll close it after 30 minutes), but (mentioning again that these are random)...

21. By what name was Mary O'Brien better known?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

The godlike Dusty Springfield

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Goddesslike, surely. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

No, that was Sandie Shaw

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Billy is right. So is Ned, technically, but he doesn't get points for that.

22. For which group did Mike Smith sing lead and play keyboards? (I hope there aren't multiple answers to this! This lot had several big hit records.)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dave Clark Five

sj (sinner), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

SJ is correct.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

23. What star used to be in Deanie Sands And The Javelins?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

Van "The Twat" Morrison

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dom is right, though he may not have been a twat then.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

24. What disco classic did World Domination Enterprises cover?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

He was probably just a little prick then.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Funkytown" (I think...).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

and Q16 is now withdrawn - the answer was Memphis Slim.

Ned is correct.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Deanie Sands

Andrew Thames, Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

25. By what name was Charles Westover better known?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Little Richard

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Chuck Westover

sj (sinner), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm not sure if there was a Deanie Sands, but he certainly was never a star. But welcome aboard Andrew.

No, no, no, Billy.

Good try CJ, but no.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh. I know it was the other one....

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's those pseudonyms, Martin! You're killing us! ;-) Well, part of the time.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Shotgun" Del Shannon

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sorry, Ned - randomly selected by the computer from hundreds of questions.

Dom is correct.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

26. Who recorded Son Of My Father?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Chicory Tip (with Giorgio Moroder)

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Chicory Tip

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Bah, Billy just beat me. Take some sedatives. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Do I get a point for knowing it was the first ever UK #1 with a synth solo in it?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Not "Rock Your Baby"? Oh wait, that was the first with a drum machine...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Billy is right again. Sorry, Dom, no bonuses for random extra facts.

27. Who wrote the novel Beautiful Losers? (Yes, it is a music question.)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh god, I knew this one! Chicory Tip, etcetera. Oh well.

Andrew Thames, Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Lenny Cohen

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Leonard Cohen

Andrew Thames, Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Bah, beaten again.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sounds like it should be Brett Anderson from Suede but I don't know

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Andrew's being unlucky with the speed, but you and Dom are both right. It's a really good novel, too!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Damn this metal body, I wasn't fast enough

Andrew Thames, Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Leonard Cohen?

I need a faster connection.

sj (sinner), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Even with cable I'm getting my butt kicked here. Grr, grr! ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

28. What was Peter Perrett's group before the Only Ones?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

My 33k modem may start to cost me points now...

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

I keep thinking the Wastrels or something... I know where to look it up, but that'd be cheating.

Andrew Thames, Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Velvet Underground

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've not heard of the Wastrels - obviously if you can point me at evidence that he was in such a group, I will correct my reaction (and this applies to any of these questions - I am not the Pope of Music, so I am fallible), but otherwise, not correct.

Billy: no, it just sounds like it...

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

in his dreams that is.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

No shit is it England's Glory?

Andrew Thames, Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yes, Andrew's got it, and is off the mark.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

29. What was America's first posthumous number one?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Richie Valens - La Bamba

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

That's not the answer I have, Billy. Do we have evidence of that? I could be wrong...

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

Wasn't Sam Cooke, was it? Or maybe Otis Redding...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's a total guess Martin. I don't even know if it made #1.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Dock of the Bay"? I have no idea on this one.

Andrew Thames, Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Looking it up, La Bamba was a hit before Valens died, not after.

Mm. Andrew is right. On my one guess then someone else rule, I would only have taken Sam Cooke from Ned, then waited for another to guess before answering his second one, so no half-points or anything like that.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

More than fair, methinks. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm afraid I'm going to have leave now guys. I'm off to see the Guru tonight and I have to freshen up. I'll check in later.

Best of luck y'all.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ned gets the points. He reminded me.

Andrew Thames, Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Bye Billy and thanks for playing - your lead might remain!

30. By what name is Marvin Lee Aday better known?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Rollercoaster" by Buddy Holly?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think Dom should get that one for the hilarity alone. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

No, I'm still giving Andrew the points - Ned took the risk of putting more than one guess there, making his second one fair game!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

me too! I dunno, marvin gaye?

Andrew Thames, Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Marvin Lee Aday is not better known as any kind of Rollercoaster. Marvin Gaye is closer, in that it is a human being, but still wrong.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Meatloaf

sj (sinner), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

And if it's not Rollercoaster" by Buddy Holly, it's Meatloaf

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

chuck berry. I should stop semiguessing.

Andrew Thames, Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dom is right this time!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

And Dom moves into second, and the leader has left the building!

31. Whose poetry was published under the title Warlock Of Love? (An easy guess, if you don't know.)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

Marc Bolan.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

marc bolan?

Andrew Thames, Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ned is of course correct. Didn't think that'd take long.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

donny osmond?

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ooh, unlucky Jel - it could easily have been Donny.

32. Name three of the four covers on the early live EP by Eddie and the Rods.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

damn this metal body, ETC

Andrew Thames, Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ooh, a pause. They seemed important at the time, you know!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Gloria," "Satisfaction," "96 Tears"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well done Ned: the other was Get Out Of Denver, for the record.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

33. What do Phil Spector, Shel Talmy, Herb Albert and Jan & Dean have in common?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hmm...LA natives?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

That's hardly so selective within the music industry - it's something more detailed than that.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

They've all had sex with Dave Grohl?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Not as far as I know, but if you can provide photographic evidence, Dom...

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

All contributed to Brian Wilson going nuts? Okay, so that's just as broad...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

once again, not so selective... this one's hard. jan and dean, hmmmm...

Andrew Thames, Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm not sure Shel Talmy had as much affect on Brian Wilson as quite a lot of other people, Ned.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

They've all sung songs about car crashes?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Heh, true Martin. ;-) This is a very good question, I have to say.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Shel Talmy is a producer rather than a singer, though. Phil Spector has sorta spoken on things, I guess and Herb lets his trumpet do the talking!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Except all of them other than Jan & Dean, Dom?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Let's break this down -- Phil Spector, producer; Shel Talmy, producer; Herb Alpert, musician; Jan and Dean, musicians. Hm...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

i think i have something alpert "produced", or whatever, but I have to sleep. Good luck everyone.

Andrew Thames, Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Okay, I'm leaving that open, as before, but here's another one. There is no chance of my getting a correct answer for one confused with the other...

34. For whom did Serge Gainsbourg write a song about a Harley-Davidson?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Brigitte Bardot.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

Although you could get them confused if she had had one HELL of a party in the sixties... ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ned is correct, and catching up fast!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

I couldn't get the answers confused, because she is not the answer to the previous one - which is still there and available!

35. About which painter did indie group McCarthy sing?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Latest scores, by the way, with Q33 and 35-50 available: Billy on 8, Dom 0n 6, Sean and Ned on 5, SJ on 3, Andrew on 2.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Georg Grosz?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ned is not right this time.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ah well.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hm. No other guesses? On this, or Q33, still awaiting answer? Should I ask another?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Either that or I'm the only person around! Ask a new one!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

OK. Note 33 and 35 are still open, though.

36. By what two names was Pere Ubu's lead singer known?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

David Thomas and Crocus Behemoth

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

(Met him briefly in 1991, actually -- friendly guy, said that Peter Murphy got the cover of "Final Solution" wrong by taking out the solo!)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ned is right.

37. Who was Mungo Jerry's lead singer?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ray Dorset...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Right again. Perhaps we're the only ones still here!

38. Which 'new country' star covered Tammy Wynette's Stand By Your Man?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think we are! Lyle Lovett.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Right again, and you're now in joint first! If no one else is playing, I think you're firm favourite.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

39. With whom did vocalist David Barker score huge hits?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's something! But I'll be leaving here for lunch shortly, so I expect the crown will not be worn forever. The Upsetters?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

No, but you're in the right country, Ned.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hm, I'll have to call myself stumped -- and I have to bow out, at least for now. I'll check back in later to see what all the answers were!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Okay Ned, bye, and thanks for playing.

Is there anyone else out there? Q33 is now closed - all of those people were at the same school, Hollywood High, at about the same time.

Q35 and Q39 are both still open, but here's another (I'm pretty sure my answer is still true):

40. What is the shortest single ever to be a US number 1?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

Lee Scratch Perry?

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 16:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Welcome back, Sean. I assume you don't mean that Perry was a painter McCarthy sang about, nor that he was a short #1 hit, but the answer is no anyway - actually, given that the Upsetters are Perry's band, I'd probably have given that to Ned had it been correct.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 17:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Actually, time to close Q35 - the painter was Franz Hals, of Laughing Cavalier fame.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 17:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hmph. I'm only here for a few minutes anyhow, and I come back with a WRONG ANSWER. I'm tempted to say "Song 2" for shortest #1 hit single, but it's probably a TV theme or something.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 17:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

No, it goes back a long way, back when songs were often pretty short. This one clocks in at 1:58. Was Song 2 a #1 in America?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 17:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Since that fleeting intervention from Sean is the only visit from anyone except Ned and me in ages, and Ned has gone, I'm going to pause this for a while and questions 39 and 40 will remain open for some time while I get some food. I'll check back a little later and revive this if anyone has shown an interest.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 17:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Maurice Williams apparently had a #1 hit single with "Stay", which was just over 1:30, apparently.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 17:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

And with that I leave again for a while.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 17:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Not the answer I have, Sean, but I will now dig out Stay and time it. It did make #1. If it is shorter than 1:58 I'll get out that tune too, and time that.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 17:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

'Stay' by Maurice Williams and the Zodiacs clocks in at about 1:35. The Letter by the Box Tops, which I had as the shortest, clocks 1:48 (not 1:58). So Sean gets a point for proving me wrong!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 17:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Q39 remains open. No more questions at least until I've eaten.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 17:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

Okay, let's try to restart. Q39 will be closed in five minutes, but...

41. Which pop star once changed his name by deed poll to Clark Kent?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 18:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Okay, I think we have a dead thread here. I'll leave those questions standing there and check again some time.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 18:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Back again, at least for a few minutes anyway!

As for Q41 I think it may be Stewart Copeland of the Police.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 August 2002 19:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

The only other person I can find named David Barker that might have conceivably had hits was the one in Fortran 5, but he wasn't the singer was he? As for Stewart Copeland, I thought he was Klark Kent (two Ks) so I don't think that's it.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 19:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

You're right that those aren't right, Sean - indeed, David Barker had his first name in the act name. The act had two top ten hits in the UK (one a #1). And I did spell Clark Kent correctly, as in Superman. The person concerned has had about 15 top ten hits hear, five of them at #1. What I'm pointing out there is that I'm not choosing impossibly obscure people!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 19:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Another clue for David Barker: it is fair to say that he was magnificent.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 19:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hmmmm, suddenly I'm thinking David Lee Roth of Van Halen fame.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 19:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

But of course that doesn't have Dave in it.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 19:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

No, remember: Jamaica. David Barker claimed to be magnificent at the start of their number 1 hit.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 20:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

If you'll allow me to cheat and earn the point through TIRELESS RESEARCH, let's say Dave and Ansell Collins.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 20:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well done, Sean - I expect some of you will now remember his "I am the magnificent" opening?

Let's try to get through the last few. I'll withdraw Q41, which is an obscure nugget about Shakin' Stevens, and move on:

42. What was the Electric Light Orchestra's first single?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 20:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

That'd be 10538 Overture.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 20:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Right again, Sean. It's now a 3-way tie for first! Exceiting, if there were people around to get excited! An easy one:

43. Who is responsible for the music in The Prodigy?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 20:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, moving on anyway, but leaving that easy one available, my suspicion is that there aren't many people looking in, and it's late here, so I'm going to just post the rest, maybe check back once tonight, but otherwise I won't be back for over 18 hours, until 6pm (UK) tomorrow.

44. Whose 'Just Waiting' have the Fall covered?
45. Who is Vincent Van Gogh the baddest painter since?
46. What Cyndi Lauper single was covered by Miles Davis?
47. What soul singer sued Otis Redding for plagiarism over These Arms Of Mine?
48. Who did Johnny Rotten describe as "punk's Perry Como"?
49. Which rock star shares his real name with one of the Monkees?
50. Who wrote the music for 'Annie Get Your Gun'?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 20:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

First right answer for each question gets the point, whenever it is posted. Bear in mind the guessing rule: if you have multiple guesses they will be taken in order, but all beyond the first will be assessed after the next person has a go. If you guess "X, Y", only X gets assessed immediately. If someone else then says "Yes, that's right, Y", they get the point.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 20:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

46. Time after Time, though she wasn't the only one who wrote it.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 20:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

49. was David Bowie.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 20:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Two correct answers, Sean. No, Cyndi didn't write it - that's why I phrased it as her single rather than her song. And Bowie's real name is David Jones.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 20:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh oh oh, and 45 was "God's Jan Vermeer". Just had to remember my Richman, was tempted to say "Pablo Picasso", because of the whole Richman painter thing.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 21:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

44 is Hank Williams

Goddamit, I knew the answer to that McCarthy question. I just woke up a few hours too late

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 25 August 2002 21:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

43 I'm tempted to answer "THASS NOT MUSIC MATE" but instead I'll remember that compilation he put out and say Liam Howlett instead.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 22:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

47: Irma Thomas (for Pain in my Heart)

Am I right or am I wrong?

And I knew about Bruce Johnston out of the Beach Boys and Frans Hals of Laughing Cavalier fame too. Can I have the points? The points are very lonely and they need an owner, they are crying in fact.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 26 August 2002 08:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

I am wrong :-( I am also incapable of reading.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 26 August 2002 11:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

David Bowie = Davy Jones of The Monkees!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 August 2002 14:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hello again. Punk's Perry Como was Billy Idol (fair enough, in a meaningless kind of way), and Irving Berlin wrote the music for Annie Get Your Gun, but it doesn't matter because Sean won by a good margin anyway, with Ned and Bill runners up. Congratulations, Sean!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 26 August 2002 15:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank the Academy, Puff Daddy and ooo ooo oh yeah GOD for the chance and privilege to win this bad boy! (And thanks Martin for the interesting questions!) I know you said the prize was inconsequential...was it a boot in the butt?)

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 26 August 2002 15:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think I said that if there was a prize it wouldn't be worth having. I have since realised that I offered a C90 comp prize last time I did this, and still owe it to the winner. That's pushing two months ago! Aargh! If you'd like to send me your address by email, Sean, maybe having two tapes to send off might get me off my lame arse...

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 26 August 2002 16:56 (twenty-one years ago) link


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