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seems like we should have a thread on this guy, idk

but with socks instead of football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

Who he?

Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

It's really an anagram of "Nole Skum."

C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

Suk Lemon

Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

ahe's kinda like tony stark, so i gather from ten mins research, but without the weapons and with clean energy and space

but with socks instead of football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

it's kinda surprising he isn't more well known all things considered

iatee, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

seriously. if wiki is even half-accurate shouldn't he be a fixture on Time mag or something?

but with socks instead of football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

His family sound really annoying. Was married to, uh, somebody who was in that St Trinians film, uh, the one with Russell Brand.

Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

You realise that if he was ever to become involved in some sort of scandal and subsequent cover-up, newspapers could use the headline, "Elongate"

Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

if he was caught cheating he'd be THE MUSKRAT

but with socks instead of football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

dude owes his company's survival to gov programs but
says it's no big deal if Romney wins and makes good on his promise
to obliterate them all.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

lots of companies do well out of govt contracts/programs, i'd imagine.

but with socks instead of football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

nine months pass...

so hyperloop huh

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Monday, 12 August 2013 22:40 (ten years ago) link

people on twitter so mad. trying to understand why. i guess it boils down to:

1) shouldn't we fix BART / buses / systems that working class people use before building toys for rich people

2) LA-to-SF only is ridiculous, there's like a whole state in there

3) nobody wants to hear half-baked plans from an arrogant rich dude

still, i mean, it's pretty cool, right?

eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 12 August 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link

1) shouldn't we fix BART / buses / systems that working class people use before building toys for rich people

There are lots of problems everywhere all the time. Can't let it stop technology from moving forward.

2) LA-to-SF only is ridiculous, there's like a whole state in there

There's a whole country, even! LA-to-SF sounds like a perfectly fine beta test.

3) nobody wants to hear half-baked plans from an arrogant rich dude

Not all rich dudes are arrogant. Elon Musk has never struck me as anything close to that.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link

people on twitter so mad.

who do you follow?

markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link

i'm not getting that impression from all the tech ppl i follow

markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link

unveiling this while CA is deep in the hole with it's bullet-train project (something I support wholeheartedly btw) is pretty arrogant

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link

You might be right, Johnny, dunno. I was just trying to figure out why there was this explosion of contempt all over my twitter feed after the announcement.

eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link

markers, here are some of the people that were entertainingly scathing: kalebhorton, quartzcity, tcarmody, mikesonn

eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:24 (ten years ago) link

i do follow tim but i guess whatever he said didn't stick

markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link

cool monorail bro

lag∞n, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:54 (ten years ago) link

lol

markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link

i have a plan for a train that goes from boston to atlanta in 10mins, its called lasertrain and ill give you some cool drawings of it in a couple weeks, its ridiculous no one is building it btw it only costs $10

lag∞n, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:59 (ten years ago) link

im not gonna build it tho cause im kinda busy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link

even i can afford that

markers, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link

unveiling this while CA is deep in the hole with it's bullet-train project (something I support wholeheartedly btw) is pretty arrogant

isn't his point that hyperloop would be fraction of the cost and twice as fast?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link

the douchey thing is that he made a big ol deal abt something thats not at all real

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:07 (ten years ago) link

Which is how 70% of architecture and urban planning works.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:10 (ten years ago) link

sure 70% that sounds totally realistic too

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:10 (ten years ago) link

I meant 94% sorry.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:12 (ten years ago) link

To me, it really sounds like a kickstarter project... but from a billionaire.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:17 (ten years ago) link

i mean who knows maybe its revolutionary technology but its so preliminary its p comical to call a press conference abt it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:18 (ten years ago) link

maybe this is the best way to convince someone else to give it a shot idk

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:25 (ten years ago) link

LOL "elon musk"

the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 03:00 (ten years ago) link

This should keep us occupied for a while: http://www.spacex.com/hyperloop

c21m50nh3x460n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 03:09 (ten years ago) link

markers, here are some of the people that were entertainingly scathing: kalebhorton, quartzcity, tcarmody, mikesonn

I wasn't scathing about Musk (I am about futurism in general) - if anything, he has a good track record on quixotic tech quests. I hope he's successful with this. I also hope there's a state left that can use it.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 04:37 (ten years ago) link

unveiling this while CA is deep in the hole with it's bullet-train project (something I support wholeheartedly btw) is pretty arrogant

Knowing how CA politics works (and the CA rail projects are amazingly political), how would you expect a non-arrogant to even get traction with this?

I have no doubt that Musk will solve the Hyperloop technical issues. I very much have doubts about him navigating Sacramento.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 04:40 (ten years ago) link

I was describing this to my wife today and kept calling it Supertube.

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 05:14 (ten years ago) link

Bad connotations...

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/supertrain-1_7696.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 05:21 (ten years ago) link

lol @ the "open source" pdf proposal. build a section of the thing and then get back to us when you have it working.

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 06:23 (ten years ago) link

Musk says the Hyperloop is best for distances of 900 miles. Beyond 900 miles, he thinks you're better off in a supersonic jet.

Lol

joe sixpac hologram (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:33 (ten years ago) link

I never use my supersonic jet anymore as parking is always a total bitch

joe sixpac hologram (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:35 (ten years ago) link

I have to say I rather like Elon Musk. He's made a massive pile of money and rather than sitting on it or managing it in mundane ways; he's making risky bets on thinks he's passionate about: Cars, Rockets, vacuum tubes.

Hyperloop seems a bit ridiculous to me, vacuum tube powered trains and trains in evacuated tubes are an old chestnut, almost as old as railways themselves. However, he's built a commercially viable private space programme and a car company* in the last ten years so anything is possible.

*Tesla isn't really a car company it's a power train company and if it is still making cars in 5 years I'll be surprised.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link

ya i'm kinda ll for crackpot genius billionaires actually doing interesting stuff, up until they become str8 up supervillains obv

darraghmac, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link

lol @ the "open source" pdf proposal. build a section of the thing and then get back to us when you have it working.

― wk, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:23 AM

he might do this

markers, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link

is this dude one of the crazy silicon valley libertarian types or is he just beloved by them?

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link

iirc he has liberal tendencies mixed in w the libertarianism

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link

xp I heard him speak and he seemed not crazy and to have some kind of social or at least environmental conscience, unlike the usual libertarian types, but maybe he's just better at hiding it

(I like him too fwiw and right now he seems one of the most likely "crackpot genius billionaires" to solve some hard problems which are overdue for solving, so I hope he carries on with that. Also hoping that one day I'll get to see/read his computer game that appeared in some 8-bit micro type-in listings mag in the 80s)

he's not as bad as some of the other silicon valley libtards, I'll give him that.

nonetheless, this is a stupid proposal

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link

do tell

curious to read a critique that amounts to more than 'hyperlol'

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link

I think it's dumb that he's throwing around numbers when he doesn't even have a working prototype. It just seems like he's hoping to derail the other project. I also think the "open source" thing is pretty silly since it's not like code where an individual can make some kind of improvement and test it out to see if it works. I guess an open source design is an interesting idea after the fact if he actually gets it working and other people want to build his design, but it still seems basically irrelevant.

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link

Didn't he make his fortune with Peter thiel?
I don't know if that is "guilt by association" or "looking better by comparison"

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link

It just seems like he's hoping to derail the other project

^^^

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link

A key part of his criticism of the other rail plan is that it's "more expensive to operate (if unsubsidized)." I'd like to see some more detailed numbers on that though. Why would we count the cost of unsubsidized rail against air travel which is heavily subsidized? All that really matters is cost to the traveller, and unlike airlines, I'm assuming the high speed rail system is not going to be run as a for-profit business. He also makes no comparison of the environmental costs of air flight vs. the planned high speed rail system.

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link

markers, here are some of the people that were entertainingly scathing: kalebhorton, quartzcity, tcarmody, mikesonn

― eris bueller (lukas), Monday, August 12, 2013 11:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm generally contemptuous of futurists, primarily because they seem to think energy and climate change problems will just sort themselves out, but a mass transit system that relies on solar power and transports people across one of the busiest stretches of highway in America is a good thing. I looked at the first two feeds you suggested and they seemed to just be saying this is just a toy for rich people, which is afaict completely unsupported by his proposal. He's not suggesting a magic carpet for billionaires; it's mass transit that uses solar power. This is a good thing! Maybe it's completely impossible hogwash, but I'd like to see actual engineering criticism of it instead of casual dismissals based on suspicion of ideas from rich people.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link

the main challenges are not engineering-related, their political

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link

anybody who is over the age of 25, has lived in a city for any length of time, and paid a modicum of attention to the world around them knows that these kinds of massive public works projects tend to be underbid by shady contractors and then they go wildly over the original schedule and budget. so the fact that he's coming in saying he can do it so much cheaper with a totally new and untested technology is a huge red flag. to me it immediately suggests that the whole thing is not serious.

if he honestly thinks this is a feasible plan he should raise some funding and build a private line from LA to Vegas.

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link

It's transparently unserious in that he doesn't want to do it himself and "regrets even mentioning it"

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link

right, that aspect has been p funny

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link

haha, I missed that part

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link

ya seems like he said something offhandedly then realized abt his celebrity

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link

a mass transit system that relies on solar power and transports people across one of the busiest stretches of highway in America is a good thing.

people don't commute the LA to SF corridor though. i have a hard time believing a transit system would fill the role of the 5 freeway. it's mostly trucks anyway.

the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link

You know what would do really well in transportation corridors like that? Plain old freight trains.

I swear, the interstate highway system and the fact it's mostly used for semi truck freight is the biggest money hole in our post-WW2 car-dependent wonderland

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link

there already are freight trains

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link

people don't commute the LA to SF corridor though.

?! they most certainly do. there are these things called commuter flights, they are booked solid all the time.

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link

there are a lot more trucks xp

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link

what exactly are you proposing?

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:20 (ten years ago) link

a solar powered superhighway paved with bitcoins duh

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link

that we subsidize more public transport of freight in addition to passengers? or at least reallocate money away from interstate highways

idk, iatee and his ideas about gas prices to thread

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link

HOOS otm

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link

ah, ok. I thought maybe there was a problem with CA's existing freight lines. I don't really know anything about them but I do see freight trains going up and down the state all the time.

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link

If this thing actually worked the political will would develop pretty quickly. If the Acela line was shipping people 400 miles in 30 minutes every state would want one.

Which is why yeah, he should just fucking build one. I wonder what a good demonstration distance would be.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link

L.A. to S.D.?

cops on horse (WilliamC), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link

what are the possible operating failure modes on one these loops

you're better off in a supersonic jet (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link

giant pillow deployment

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link

halp im stuck in a tube inside of a tube

you're better off in a supersonic jet (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link

*giant sucking sound*

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link

homerloop

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:14 (ten years ago) link

i don't understand why this would be a good alternative to commuter flights

I'd rather see the money spent on suburb-to-city trolley lines

the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link

commuter flights are very carbon-intensive, for one thing

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link

wouldn't even a dependable normal rail line be comparable to commuter flights by the time you figure in airport screening and boarding times and shit?

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link

n/m, I am being way optimistic about rail speeds

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link

there is a rail line that runs the California coast, it's called Amtrak

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link

best described as "leisurely"

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link

kind of forget the massive size of California, from now on I'll think of the distance from LA to SF being about the same as the distance from me to Chicago

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:38 (ten years ago) link

about distance from the border to austin! i didn't realize it was that far.

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:40 (ten years ago) link

now we've got some common terms here

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link

mostly slow because they have to give freight trains the right of way or something like that iirc

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link

yep. it's an enjoyable ride, but not for commuters, it's way too slow. granted I haven't ridden it in 25 years

OH MY GOD HE'S GOOGLY (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link

so the freight lines are pretty congested, you're saying

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link

they're full of hobos

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:44 (ten years ago) link

if planes are carbon intensive why not build solar planes? about as doable as a solar rail vacuum tube

the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link

I agree that the major problems with implementing his proposal are political, but that doesn't mean it's a bad idea!

schwantz, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link

Invent a solar plane that generates as much thrust as burning a bunch of jet fuel and you'll have everything solved. xp

cops on horse (WilliamC), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link

why not build wind powered planes with propellers that are also windmills?

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link

Guys we'll have nuclear fusion by 2025 chillax

darraghmac, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link

i've always lived the idea of giant solar-power helium dirigibles for freight transport

the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link

LOLLLLLL

the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link

I agree that the major problems with implementing his proposal are political, but that doesn't mean it's a bad idea!

uh whut

i think there's the major technical hurdle of building the giant vacuum tube

the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link

stick all of these ideas in a pdf and send them to the cologne tycoon

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link

anybody who is over the age of 25, has lived in a city for any length of time, and paid a modicum of attention to the world around them knows that these kinds of massive public works projects tend to be underbid by shady contractors and then they go wildly over the original schedule and budget. so the fact that he's coming in saying he can do it so much cheaper with a totally new and untested technology is a huge red flag. to me it immediately suggests that the whole thing is not serious.

I can't find the specific economist or businessweek article that talked about this but in the US consultants who put the bid together for the state/county/city are not barred from bidding and often end up on the winning bid team.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link

I'm pretty sure ross perot was trying to warn us about this giant vacuum tube 20 years ago

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:13 (ten years ago) link

what's that giant sucking sound?

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link

This sounds neat. Anyone speculating as to whether it will work or not right now is completely full of shit -- you have nothing to base your opinion on yet.

One thing I do wonder is whether it will have stops along the way or just be a bullet shot from LA to SF -- there's a big difference in the effect and in the target demographic of a train that's just LA to SF vs one that has intermediate suburban stops. True "commuter" transportation is normally built on a suburbs-to-city model, where people can save money on living expenses and/or have more land by living outside the city and use the transit to get to their jobs. The kind of person who would "commute" from LA to SF or vice versa is more likely someone in a high-powered job travelling back and forth for business meetings and the like -- I don't really see a lot of people living in one city and making a daily commute to an office in the other.

HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link

you have nothing to base your opinion on yet

I mean, outside of scientific studies, existing forms of similar transport, use patterns of public transport in that region and regions with high-speed rail, and studies on the efficiency of public project implementation

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link

what I want to know is if they can team this Musk guy up with that Dyson dude so we can make sure this new rail system never loses suction

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:20 (ten years ago) link

i have a plan for affordable teleportation. anyone who says otherwise is basing their opinion on nothing and is therefore full of shit

the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link

you mean buzz bissinger? xp

MAAVENN (Matt P), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link

high powered boozenass

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link

why everybody want use internet why nobody read deh booehk

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link

i think there's the major technical hurdle of building the giant vacuum tube

― the late great, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 1:57 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it doesn't involve a giant vacuum tube, tho, is the thing

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link

I thought we all switched to transistors

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link

no? i thought that's how they got around the air resistance.

the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link

it doesn't need to be airtight though. something to do with fans & pumps

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

I mean, outside of scientific studies, existing forms of similar transport,
― carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:19 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

plz elaborate

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

see: Simpsons s04e12 and Futurama opening titles

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link

yeah, it's a low pressure tube, not a no pressure tube.

you're better off in a supersonic jet (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link

I don't think the majority of our skepticism is in the particular technology, only that this particular technology might have implementation issues, having not been used in this type of situation before, and there are existing high speed trains we can study for the rest -- passenger usage, patterns of usage, etc.

New technologies need to go into effect and their costs may vary, but the costs of implementing for the first time are fairly predictable based on past ramp-up and production of technologies? If that makes any sense.

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link

still some pressure in elon musk's tube

MAAVENN (Matt P), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link

so basically take the costs of a monorail, the costs of a vacuum system to keep it at low pressure, and the fudge factor of it being something new

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link

still some pressure in elon musk's tube

it has to be kept up artificially though from what I hear

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link

I don't think the majority of our skepticism is in the particular technology
― carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:52 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well ok then

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link

so is this supposed to replace driving or flying or both? because even if the cost is somewhat lower than flying it seems like the capacity would not be nearly enough to make any sense at all? like, a detachable quad chairlift moves like 2400 ppl/hr.

maybe la-sf needs a subsonic detachable quad.

you're better off in a supersonic jet (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:13 (ten years ago) link

"The total trip time is approximately half an hour, with capsules departing as often as every 30 seconds from each terminal and carrying 28 people each. This gives a total of 7.4 million people each way that can be transported each year on Hyperloop. ... total of about $20 USD (in current year dollars) plus operating costs per one-way ticket on the passenger Hyperloop."

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link

so is this supposed to replace driving or flying or both? because even if the cost is somewhat lower than flying it seems like the capacity would not be nearly enough to make any sense at all? like, a detachable quad chairlift moves like 2400 ppl/hr.

maybe la-sf needs a subsonic detachable quad.

― you're better off in a supersonic jet (Hunt3r), Tuesday, August 13, 2013 4:13 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wait what

HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link

Will these things have bathrooms?

Jeff, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link

yeah, but don't flush

HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link

the whole experience is like being flushed amirite

you're better off in a supersonic jet (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link

I assume it would primarily replace flying plus some driving and rail. According to my quick googling, 7 mil per year is way more people than make the flight every year.

HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link

if he could actually make a system that would take people between SF & LA in a half hour for only $20, and he's not going to spend all of his energy on that then he's a dick.

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link

yeah, i think the flight figure is ~6.x mil. still, that sounds very inflated. it assumes 840 ppl/hour- 24 hours a day. no downtime? no maintenance time? i have no idea how many ppl drive it/day, and part of the traffic will transfer from there. if it's truly like $50/30 minutes, many more people will start to do it.

but i think it's a cool concept, hope it works someday.

you're better off in a supersonic jet (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link

i mean, the hyperloop capacity sounds inflated.

you're better off in a supersonic jet (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link

you could always build a second parallel tube amirite

HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link

yeah but I think the total flight numbers are only like 1.x million

HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link

there are probably at least a million people each day commuting into LA and SF combined right? an affordable half hour hyperloop trip between the two (not to mention connectors to other less expensive cities) would lead to a lot more commuters.

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link

is there space for segways in it?

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link

driving segways into the hyperloop with my google glasses

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link

I think it's very healthy to be skeptical of all new technologies. The idea is not to shot down anything new for the sake of it, but to remain cautious of the implications and in this specific case, the feasibility of the new technology.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link

there are probably at least a million people each day commuting into LA and SF combined right? an affordable half hour hyperloop trip between the two (not to mention connectors to other less expensive cities) would lead to a lot more commuters.

― wk, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:05 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You mean people actually living in one and working in the other on a daily basis? I doubt it, only because both are such expensive cities, so the main reason to choose living in one and working in the other would be taste. The commuters from the valley etc aren't going to pack up and move to SF just because they can tube to work.

HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link

well it opens up the possibility. the valley is probably way cheaper than anywhere in the bay area, so if somebody there gets a job in San Jose and they can get there in almost the same amount of time it takes to drive downtown, then why not?

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link

HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2)
Posted: August 13, 2013, 7:17:15 PM
This sounds neat. Anyone speculating as to whether it will work or not right now is completely full of shit -- you have nothing to base your opinion on yet.

where as yr opinion is based on the fact that it sounds neat lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link

lasertrain sounds neater, so basically musk can gobble these

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link

i'm not speculating as to whether it will actually work

HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link

there's way neater completely untested ideas out there

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 23:02 (ten years ago) link

having a press conference to present a scifi idea is what people are making fun of

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 23:04 (ten years ago) link

he even pretends to know how much it will cost

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link

i blame snowden

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 23:53 (ten years ago) link

Guys, I have this awesome idea and am pretty sure I can put one in every major airport for like $40-50 tops.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01729/star_1729224c.jpg

Here's the storify, of a lovely ladify (Phil D.), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 00:48 (ten years ago) link

i already made that joek

the late great, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 00:55 (ten years ago) link

HYPERCUBE

failed skirty tropes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 00:56 (ten years ago) link

funny how billionaires always end up in hubris

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 00:58 (ten years ago) link

i've drawn a big elastic band that will be able to shoot people across country at Mach 4 let's do this

failed skirty tropes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 00:59 (ten years ago) link

there's way neater completely untested ideas out there

― lag∞n, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:02 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

like what

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 01:11 (ten years ago) link

who the hell is this Elon Musk guy to estimate the cost of an engineering project

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 01:13 (ten years ago) link

he's no ilxor that's for sure

darraghmac, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 01:14 (ten years ago) link

well i haven't FP'd him yet so

failed skirty tropes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 01:14 (ten years ago) link

oooh i bet he could come up with a better system than fp

darraghmac, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 01:15 (ten years ago) link

like it would only take like 2, 3 tops to ban a fucker

darraghmac, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 01:16 (ten years ago) link

say what you want about this guy, at least he made the hyperloops run on time

failed skirty tropes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 01:17 (ten years ago) link

who the hell is this Elon Musk guy to estimate the cost of an engineering project

admittedly it's impressive that he's had success in software, auto manufacturing, and aerospace, but isn't a massive public works project like this a different thing altogether?

wk, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link

Don't forget solar.

Fetchboy, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 01:24 (ten years ago) link

I think it was entirely reasonable for him to give a cost estimate at this press conference xp

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 01:28 (ten years ago) link

i'm not sure the tesla and space x count as engineering triumphs

the late great, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 01:55 (ten years ago) link

dude is a genius entrepreneur, not a genius engineer

the late great, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 01:57 (ten years ago) link

well i guess space x is pretty cool but not cheaper or better than nasa, the tesla is like 100k

the late great, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 02:01 (ten years ago) link

I think it was entirely reasonable for him to give a cost estimate at this press conference xp

I think it's pretty reasonable to be skeptical of a figure that's almost 1/10th of what's being spent on actual proven existing technology.

wk, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 03:30 (ten years ago) link

Well ya thats why he thinks his idea is better

darraghmac, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 03:31 (ten years ago) link

Cracking up at article that bolstered dudes cred with "Tony stark is partially based on him in the popular im movies!"

you're better off in a supersonic jet (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 03:31 (ten years ago) link

Well ya thats why he thinks his idea is better

yeah, make believe ideas do tend to be better and cheaper than messy reality.

wk, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 03:36 (ten years ago) link

Wwtsd

you're better off in a supersonic jet (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 03:37 (ten years ago) link

wtsiw

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 03:47 (ten years ago) link

well i guess space x is pretty cool but not cheaper or better than nasa, the tesla is like 100k

Actually SpaceX is considerably cheaper than NASA. NASA even agrees: http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/586023main_8-3-11_NAFCOM.pdf

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 04:30 (ten years ago) link

that's because they're organizationally leaner, not because they've invented a cheaper spacecraft

the late great, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link

well sure that's fine for elon

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link

who the hell is this Elon Musk guy to estimate the cost of an engineering project

― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:13 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

estimate

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link

lasertrain will only cost $1 because light is free

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 14:58 (ten years ago) link

lose organizational fat with this one weird trick

MAVEN! (Matt P), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link

i admit the only reason i'm in this thread at all is i love saying Elon Musk in my head after every post

MAVEN! (Matt P), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link

no one's real name sounds more like a cologne

HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link

ELON MUSK...by fabergé

you're better off in a supersonic jet (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link

Two weeks before his Hyperloop announcement, Musk quietly met with the founder of ET3, an even-faster, already patented tube transport system.

Daryl Oster and five people from his company ET3 made the trip to 1 Rocket Road in Hawthorne, California, the headquarters of SpaceX. Its CEO and Chief Designer Elon Musk had invited the engineer and former stockbroker over for a chat. Musk was interested in Oster's idea for an Evacuated Tube Transport (ETT) system that he said would let people travel from New York to L.A. in 45 minutes.

http://www.fastcoexist.com/3015704/futurist-forum/how-much-did-this-hyperloop-lookalike-inspire-elon-musk

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link

dang 45 mins

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link

eat the rich

MAVEN! (Matt P), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Elon Musk ‏@elonmusk 23 Aug
Will post video next week of designing a rocket part with hand gestures & then immediately printing it in titanium

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 03:24 (ten years ago) link

hahaha

Domo Arigato, Demi Lovato (Phil D.), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 14:28 (ten years ago) link

lol

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link

nice

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link

seven months pass...

http://recode.net/2014/04/03/at-hbos-silicon-valley-premiere-elon-musk-is-pissed/

He is REALLY into Burning Man

polyphonic, Friday, 4 April 2014 06:21 (ten years ago) link

“The parties in Silicon Valley are amazing" lol i dont believe u

lag∞n, Friday, 4 April 2014 11:06 (ten years ago) link

I was just having a meeting with my information security team, and they’re great but they’re pretty fucking weird — one used to be a dude, one’s super small

what the actual fuck is this shit

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 4 April 2014 12:13 (ten years ago) link

imagining musk getting continuously blown away by everyday sights

lag∞n, Friday, 4 April 2014 12:28 (ten years ago) link

sounds like he was stoned, like whoa these guys work for me crazy and wow one of them is tiny and another one is pretty radical and were having a meeting this is so weird im kinda freaking out imna text sergey no dont text pay attention what are they talking about shit this is so fucked up

lag∞n, Friday, 4 April 2014 12:30 (ten years ago) link

oh hey lets create a spacefaring civilisation oh look a squirrel

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 4 April 2014 12:48 (ten years ago) link

There's speculation of an interesting horizontal integration aspect to this project - namely, that the hyperloop stores energy in excess of what it needs to operate. The thought is that this energy can be funneled to various spots along the loop where electric car recharge stations would be placed. That helps alleviate one of the chief concerns with another of Mr. Musk's businesses, the relatively short range of electric cars (I.e his Tedla models) to travel highway distances.

art, Friday, 4 April 2014 12:50 (ten years ago) link

That's nice

Yeah actually if he's just wasted it doesn't sound weird at all

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 4 April 2014 12:54 (ten years ago) link

hey man i'm too wasted to be aware that describing transgendered or less-than-average-height people as 'fucking weird' is nagl

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 4 April 2014 12:56 (ten years ago) link

Isn't the story all about how pissed he is?

kinder, Friday, 4 April 2014 13:08 (ten years ago) link

You mean, like, drunk?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 April 2014 13:17 (ten years ago) link

I ws thinking "Holy shit that guy's wearing a HAT, woah" type wasted

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 4 April 2014 13:19 (ten years ago) link

Outside on the street, actor T.J. Miller was having a cigarette. Was he having a good time at the party?

“Yeah, but, and I’m not gonna name names, but if the billionaire power players don’t get the joke, it’s because they’re not comfortable being satirized,” said Miller, who plays a buffoonish character named Erlich, who owns the hacker house. “And they don’t remember that to be a target of humor is an honor — you have to be venerated to be satirized. Like, I’m sorry, but you could tell everything was true. You guys do have bike meetings, motherfucker.”

Burn.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 April 2014 13:50 (ten years ago) link

fwiw the trailer for this made me laugh

ביטקוין‎ (Hurting 2), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:34 (ten years ago) link

I feel like with Martin Starr and Kumail Nanjiani on screen and Mike Judge involved it will probably not be terrible.

ביטקוין‎ (Hurting 2), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:38 (ten years ago) link

I'd watch a Martin Starr one man monologue movie, a la Spalding Gray.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:42 (ten years ago) link

it turns out i know somebody who's just agreed to be, essentially, husk's PA.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:56 (ten years ago) link

i mean musk.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:56 (ten years ago) link

please get them to start a 77 thread for us

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 16:16 (ten years ago) link

also, maybe see if there are extra burning man tix so I can hang with the muskster

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 16:17 (ten years ago) link

As I kind of expected, not amazing overall, but I laughed pretty much every time Nanjiani or Starr opened their mouths. Relied a little too much on obvious/well-worn tech company gags.

ביטקוין‎ (Hurting 2), Saturday, 12 April 2014 02:36 (ten years ago) link

another space x launch later today

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 17:28 (ten years ago) link

it turns out i know somebody who's just agreed to be, essentially, husk's PA.

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, April 4, 2014 3:56 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i mean musk.

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, April 4, 2014 3:56 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Musk Musk

calling him "husk" is p lol

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 17:32 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpCIYlRRw_o

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 14 April 2014 17:34 (ten years ago) link

I keep thinking of Aeon Flux.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 April 2014 17:34 (ten years ago) link

thanks jordan. i have no idea what that is, but thanks.

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 17:39 (ten years ago) link

only 90s kids

a strange man (mh), Monday, 14 April 2014 18:01 (ten years ago) link

i was born in 1987

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 18:04 (ten years ago) link

maybe I should say only 90s teens

a strange man (mh), Monday, 14 April 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

thats... not inside a tube?

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 May 2016 06:15 (seven years ago) link

the cult around this guy is baffling, except for paypal i've yet to use anything he built.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 16 May 2016 01:56 (seven years ago) link

What u haven't been to space lately ur not srs?

Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Monday, 16 May 2016 02:03 (seven years ago) link

my friend works for SolarCity, which he strongly corrects me about. it's not run by Musk, he says. it's Musk's cousin.

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 16 May 2016 02:11 (seven years ago) link

Elton Musk

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 16 May 2016 02:29 (seven years ago) link

I see at least 1 Tesla per day

Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 16 May 2016 02:31 (seven years ago) link

And there's usually only 3 parked at the dealership

Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 16 May 2016 02:32 (seven years ago) link

I don't know what I'm getting at with this

Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 16 May 2016 02:33 (seven years ago) link

idk, the cult of Musk makes a lot more sense than the conventional tech wisdom that the uber dudes are visionaries. i mean, he's trying to get to space and build a train that goes 800mph, the appeal of these things seems obvious even if you don't share it.

intheblanks, Monday, 16 May 2016 02:34 (seven years ago) link

Teslas aren't sold from the dealership. You order one, they build it and deliver it to you.

bothan zulu (El Tomboto), Monday, 16 May 2016 02:37 (seven years ago) link

Elon Musk is a living indictment of our broken economic system

larry appleton, Monday, 16 May 2016 02:53 (seven years ago) link

yeah idk there is no tesla dealership, maybe you saw a place with free charging stations

I think my friend with a Volt has been optimizing his routes to be able to charge his car for free while drinking

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 16 May 2016 03:54 (seven years ago) link

I mean, ducking in for a drink. Probably not a good idea to drive too close to him, just in case

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 16 May 2016 03:55 (seven years ago) link

There's Tesla showrooms in a few places. There's one in a mall near here. On one of the upper floors, no less, which just seems weird.

bothan zulu (El Tomboto), Monday, 16 May 2016 04:20 (seven years ago) link

“As we danced at our wedding reception, Elon told me, ‘I am the alpha in this relationship,’” Justine, who was wed to the mogul from 2000 to 2008, wrote in a Marie Claire article. “I shrugged it off, just as I would later shrug off signing the postnuptial agreement . . . Elon’s judgment overruled mine, and he was constantly remarking on the ways he found me lacking,” she continues, saying he told her, “If you were my employee . . . I would fire you.”

salthigh, Monday, 16 May 2016 04:28 (seven years ago) link

Sort of what I'd expect from a billionnaire called "Elon Musk"

Treeship, Monday, 16 May 2016 04:32 (seven years ago) link

if this isn't technically a dealership, it is at least surrounded by dealerships and occupies a space that was previously a dealership
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Tesla+Motors+Santa+Barbara/@34.4336131,-119.747588,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x80e9151f819505f7:0x4e0b1a589e5a265c!8m2!3d34.4336131!4d-119.7453993

Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 16 May 2016 04:53 (seven years ago) link

but yes, they seemed to only have one of each model type available for test drives or something. which is a bit hilarious because the lot is huge.

Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 16 May 2016 04:54 (seven years ago) link

musks brother has a restaurant empire in colorado and hes a bigtime thought leader

http://i.imgur.com/6bH7YH0.jpg

lag∞n, Monday, 16 May 2016 04:56 (seven years ago) link

tomato signal is strong

Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 16 May 2016 04:59 (seven years ago) link

im against gmos personally

lag∞n, Monday, 16 May 2016 05:00 (seven years ago) link

fwiw i agree that food is def the new internet

Clay, Monday, 16 May 2016 05:03 (seven years ago) link

i just emailed an ice cream sandwich to my face via my hand

lag∞n, Monday, 16 May 2016 05:06 (seven years ago) link

"What time is it? No time to look back. Food is the new internet."
http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/files/2015/08/Byrne.jpg

Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 16 May 2016 05:07 (seven years ago) link

all I do all day is facilitate gmos

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 16 May 2016 13:29 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

www.wired.co.uk/article/hyperloop-hype-machine

just sayin, Monday, 5 September 2016 06:51 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...
three months pass...

the cult around this guy is baffling, except for paypal i've yet to use anything he built.

― Van Horn Street, Sunday, May 15, 2016 9:56 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

didn't even build this - it already existed at another company that his company (X.com) merged with.

Neanderthal, Monday, 24 April 2017 22:52 (seven years ago) link

Toupee-pal more like (he wears a wig or has implants or something)

everything, Monday, 24 April 2017 23:01 (seven years ago) link

nine months pass...

T MINUS TEN MINUTES!

https://www.facebook.com/Floridatoday/videos/10155860010880937/

the late great, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:31 (six years ago) link

or try this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSwFU6tY1c

the late great, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link

pls tell me someone strapped Musk to the nose

Simon H., Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link

isn't there a left wing podcast you should be listening to?

the late great, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:40 (six years ago) link

pls tell me you have better things to do than harsh my buzz, comrade

the late great, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:41 (six years ago) link

idk I think it would be a win-win

Simon H., Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:51 (six years ago) link

okay that was fucking cool

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:00 (six years ago) link

the car + the 'don't panic!' thing was a little gross but w/e

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:00 (six years ago) link

the boosters just coming back home to their own separate landing pads was the best part imo

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:07 (six years ago) link

Welcome back lil guys!

Jeff, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link

yeah the booster landing was amazing, the live footage from the rockets themselves was boss

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:10 (six years ago) link

coworkers were watching this across the row from me.

main comment i heard was "lotta white dudes"

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:17 (six years ago) link

as much as i loath this kind of thing as an early example of advertising/marketing in space, i have to admit this is kind of riveting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBr2kKAHN6M

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:48 (six years ago) link

are we sure spaceX isn't just faking all this footage? when the boosters re-landed, i don't know, looked pretty fake to me

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 22:00 (six years ago) link

that really is something, though, when it happens at about 38:00 into the video the late great posted. that's just fucking amazing.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link

I don’t think the third booster made it? No footage was shown.

Jeff, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 22:03 (six years ago) link

a billionaire putting a car on mars in an age of record inequality is very "Whitey's On The Moon" imo

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link

xp

Yes nothing was heard or seen of it, don't know tbh

In space, pizza sends out for YOU (Ste), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 22:09 (six years ago) link

otm xp

marcos, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 22:13 (six years ago) link

Taking nothing away from the people involved in making this happen, which I'm sure has been mind-bendingly complex, but watching that video I've never before seen so clearly the Kubrickian link between a spaceship and a caveman getting excited over a flying bone

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 22:42 (six years ago) link

you're a flying bone

the late great, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 23:02 (six years ago) link

Tracer OTM. I appreciate the scientific accomplishment here, but it's a douchy thing to do and I'm afraid we'll see way too much of it in the coming years. Sending a car into space huh? What's next, sending a monkey into orbit? (j/k)

Like this fucking guy. It's a very vain way of polluting space.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 23:02 (six years ago) link

ugh I thought LBI's gizmodo link was an Onion article, and I appreciated the effort of setting up an external website, but thought it possibly a little on the nose that they picked a real company name

literally did not realise my mistake until I'd read the entire article and scrolled back to click on the link

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 23:08 (six years ago) link

back to today's launch, twin landings cool, anything to do with the car ugh

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 23:09 (six years ago) link

haha wow, well I can't blame you for mistaking it for the Onion. All too real though, sadly.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 23:12 (six years ago) link

Lost opportunity not to have a small bit of robotics in the car passenger so he could wave and move his head randomly. Looked like a dead guy.

nickn, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 00:07 (six years ago) link

I was wondering that if instead of burning heavy lift on a car, the test could have been used for something useful - like sending a camera and a drill to ‘Oumuamua. it's possible, but the orbital mechanics stink.
https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2017/11/10/project-lyra-sending-a-spacecraft-to-1ioumuamua-formerly-a2017-u1-the-interstellar-asteroid/

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 01:01 (six years ago) link

guys hate to be the bearer of bad new but elon musk fucked the rocket and died rip

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 03:33 (six years ago) link

seems aspirational when you write it like that

mh, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 03:36 (six years ago) link

he died doing what he loved fucking a rocket and dying

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 03:37 (six years ago) link

that flat earth dude wherever, isn't that the thing

afaik that guy wants to die in a halfassed rocket launch and has appealed to flat earth people in order to fund his suicide rocker. good grift really

mh, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 03:49 (six years ago) link

lol check this shit out, what cant elon musk do

The curvature of the Earth got people talking as photos and videos were shared of the SpaceX #FalconHeavy launch. https://t.co/Cod7JFblSI

— Twitter Moments (@TwitterMoments) February 6, 2018

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 03:50 (six years ago) link

thank u elon for finally proving real ppl and not government shills can show the earth curvy

mh, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 03:51 (six years ago) link

real earths have curves

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 04:22 (six years ago) link

Elon and Tesla are doing its best to ensure my work days are never dull. But this is pretty awesome, I’ve had starman gently spinning all day long on my second screen, it’s very relaxing.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 08:31 (six years ago) link

#imwithFET

Wow, lots of activity since last night, as though a) this is the first time anyone pointed a funny lens at the earth, or b) the imagery in any way contradicts modern FET. If it were that simple, who wouldn't already be convinced?

— Flat Earth Today (@FlatEarthToday) February 7, 2018

mark s, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:02 (six years ago) link

What do they regard as a "funny" lens, I wonder? Non-rectilinear? The long focal length lenses folks shoot with from the ISS are rectilinear. I really don't want to go down this rabbit hole (which isn't a hole, it's a disk), but if I shoot a flat horizon at sea level with a 400mm lens and then I shoot with the same lens from 500km up and the horizon is curved, what then? Someone with more patience than me is having this discussion with them right now on Twitter, right?

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:12 (six years ago) link

http://www.in5d.com/images/5d-agharta.jpg

mark s, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:16 (six years ago) link

i assume all is now clear

mark s, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:17 (six years ago) link

Gotcha.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:19 (six years ago) link

like many, many things, that makes me want to reread Against The Day

imago, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:26 (six years ago) link

I get the "putting your car into space" move as tacky, but having spent some time working in a space-centered STEM educational outreach program for kids, I read it a little less cynically.

circa1916, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:39 (six years ago) link

if they asked you "why" what would you say? my son asked me that; i had no answer

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:12 (six years ago) link

I mean they had to deposit some sort of payload out there as part of the test, right? Why not make it something attention grabbing and fun? It’s a striking image and I see it as an easy springboard into deeper topics.

circa1916, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:23 (six years ago) link

(FWIW, even though I worked in the program mentioned above, I am not an educator, this just absolutely came across as something they’d love)

circa1916, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:25 (six years ago) link

yeah i don't see how this is any worse than launching another satellite that will be used by world govts to spy on everyone

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:29 (six years ago) link

i thought it was crass and self-promotional, the opposite of what space exploration should be about

back in the.. 90s i guess? disney had an idea to launch three massive interconnected rings into space, to orbit the moon. they would be packed tightly into a spacecraft and inflate once in orbit, and the reflected light from the moon would illuminate them and create a visible mickey mouse logo. eventually the rings would deflate and crash into the moon. i recall mockery and eyerolling at the time and they finally nixed the idea. (this is of course impossible to google for, but trust me)

anyway, this feels like that, but thankfully smaller scale

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:30 (six years ago) link

I dunno, most of space is kinda empty and dull. Gotta fill it with something wacky hey.

What's the plan for this car then? Is it just going to eventually crash into the sun?

In space, pizza sends out for YOU (Ste), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:43 (six years ago) link

"i thought it was crass and self-promotional"

I mean... it can be more than one thing. Unfortunate side effect of having space exploration headed by a private company.

circa1916, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:45 (six years ago) link

The amount of debris in space may not be a pressing issue yet, but it soon will be. http://stuffin.space/

Shooting disco balls into space because you're a dumbass billionaire doesn't sit well with me at all (but I'll concede it's different from Musks effort here)

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link

disco balls would be better imo

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:01 (six years ago) link

"Musk occasionally performs a ritual called anointing. When the he encounters a new scent, he will lick and bite the source, then form a scented froth in its mouth and paste it on its spines with its tongue. The purpose of this habit is unknown,"

Elon Musk Hedgehog -photoshop experts please produce this!

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:09 (six years ago) link

Sounds like something really weird I used to do with stacks of Doritos in middle school

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:13 (six years ago) link

Where is that quote from?

Simon H., Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:15 (six years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedgehog

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:25 (six years ago) link

Isn't the car going to end up in orbit around Mars? I was thinking if all went right, that's where it would end up.

Got to figure if ends up in a stable orbit and he pulls off some of his schemes, he'd eventually pick it up to complete the stunt.

That disco ball in orbit I guess has ticked off the antenna folk as since its highly reflective if it comes onto the line of site its light reflection is bright.

earlnash, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:50 (six years ago) link

apparently it's 'blasting' star man at top volume which seems like obnoxious and almost like pollution

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:51 (six years ago) link

https://imgur.com/gallery/DWTOb

He migth as well send his dick to mars what a braggart

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:52 (six years ago) link

fuck this guy

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:59 (six years ago) link

xpost luckily there's no sound in space

which reminds me, i really want to know what sound sounds like on the edges of the atmosphere, just before there isn't sound.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:01 (six years ago) link

(apparently it sounds like this: https://www.livescience.com/50721-near-space-sound-recorded.html)
(although that's kind of cheating because the recording "instruments eavesdropped on atmospheric infrasound, or sound waves at frequencies below 20 hertz. Infrasound is below human hearing range, but speeding up the recordings makes them audible.")
(i want to hear the last audible gasps of sound still within the human hearing range. i guess i could just simulate this on my laptop, though)

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:14 (six years ago) link

flat earthers gonna hate!

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:20 (six years ago) link

elon musk go to mars bitch

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:49 (six years ago) link

now if George Clooney was in the spacesuit instead of a mannequin, well all right

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:05 (six years ago) link

He's gagged up in the boot

In space, pizza sends out for YOU (Ste), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:33 (six years ago) link

i want elon musk to move to mars and try to stay positive while it dawns on him how bad it sucks, also i want him to get stuck there

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:37 (six years ago) link

Holy shit, did the flat earthers unionize? pic.twitter.com/hTrQ7bwLqf

— Nora Blake (@NeitherNora) February 7, 2018

Simon H., Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:37 (six years ago) link

mars: also flat, bitches

mark s, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:39 (six years ago) link

day 300: finally weve reached our destination, mars! (and its dick shaped?)

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:42 (six years ago) link

A local politician is found blasted into space in a car atop a heavy lift rocket. Suspicion falls on a South African-born Canadian American business magnate, angry that an unreliable power supply might threaten his plans for world domination of the electric vehicle market.

— Midsomer Murders Bot (@midsomerplots) February 7, 2018

mark s, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:55 (six years ago) link

real earths have curves

― lag∞n, Tuesday, February 6, 2018 10:22 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

gbx, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link

I like my planets fat and not flat

Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:57 (six years ago) link

I love big buttes and I do not lie

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:58 (six years ago) link

I'm in love with my curvy planet

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:59 (six years ago) link

oops

https://i.imgur.com/JX3iSXT.png

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 19:44 (six years ago) link

You realise that if he was ever to become involved in some sort of scandal and subsequent cover-up, newspapers could use the headline, "Elongate"

― Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:50 (five years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Convinced this will happen some day.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link

what a loser, tried to send his car to mars ends up in ASTEROID BELT - dick!

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Thursday, 8 February 2018 13:46 (six years ago) link

actual "frozen yogurt roller coaster" would be legit breakthrough

Entrepreneurial Jism Unshackler (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 9 February 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/12/elon_musk_invents_bus_stop/

just sayin, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 23:21 (six years ago) link

“elite projection” is my favorite term of the day and I’m gonna use that piece in a talk I’m about to give. Thanking u

El Tomboto, Thursday, 15 March 2018 05:48 (six years ago) link

humantransit.org is a gift

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 15 March 2018 09:54 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Can we use this thread to track the impending implosion of Tesla?

He bonds they sold last August are now trading at 88c on the dollar, their debt is rated barely above junk, people are leaving left right and centre.

New car, new production techniques, new factories, it’s starting to get very ugly.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 31 March 2018 03:29 (six years ago) link

But he put fake man in car in space. Going in wrong direction, sure.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 31 March 2018 04:11 (six years ago) link

If the point was making huge profits, then yes, it's failing, but the whole "disrupting the industry" strategy + opening minds to the possibilities of electric cars = success.

StanM, Saturday, 31 March 2018 05:46 (six years ago) link

the famous business strategy

lag∞n, Saturday, 31 March 2018 05:59 (six years ago) link

Who Killed The Self-Driving Car?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 31 March 2018 07:00 (six years ago) link

Dennis Guilder

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 31 March 2018 09:22 (six years ago) link

they are facing another Moody's downgrade very soon iirc

sleeve, Saturday, 31 March 2018 15:07 (six years ago) link

I fear for their poor workers, but I won't be able to deny the schadenfreude if Musk goes down.

Simon H., Saturday, 31 March 2018 15:11 (six years ago) link

it's clearly rich guy on rich guy vengeance, this is what happens when you shut down your corporate facebook accounts

ballistic: musk vs. the zuck

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 April 2018 18:50 (six years ago) link

trying to think what Musk’s businesses’ actual recent successes are and if they’re at all notable

rocket stuff: pretty good? more showboating than innovation
cars: driving tech ahead of most competitors, pushing battery industry forward through demand. actual car production sucks, QA on car assembly is bad

solar company: not any better than any solar company doing the subsidy/home install game. might be a front to sell batteries

mass transport company: they’ve dug some holes in the ground and are selling gimmicks for publicity

branding game: relatively strong

mh, Sunday, 1 April 2018 21:22 (six years ago) link

the real coup de grace was the car company purchasing the struggling indebted solar company imo

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 April 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link

its all pretty funny imo except the mass transpo company which seems just another obvious attempt to undercut public transpo with a car dependent future

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 April 2018 21:30 (six years ago) link

not even sure he even believes he can build his tunnels and suction tubes might be purely an attempt to inject chaos into the public transpo planning process

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 April 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link

stando evil industrialist scheming

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 April 2018 21:32 (six years ago) link

pushing battery industry forward through demand

But not fulfilled with Tesla/Panasonic batteries. Elon makes all the noise but LG and Samsung make all the sales. Even the 120MW big battery in Australia is full of Samsung cells. It keeps my day interesting that he keeps sprinkling the tech but it’s it where the money is going.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 1 April 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link

they’re not doing much research overall, right? they’re an integrator/reseller

mh, Sunday, 1 April 2018 23:00 (six years ago) link

four weeks pass...

heh heres the article https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-tesla-burns-cash

lag∞n, Monday, 30 April 2018 20:06 (five years ago) link

The thing that really annoys me most about Elon is his name. I really want him to be called Elton Musk. Like a seedy jazz saxophonist from the 70s.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 30 April 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link

spending a shitload of money and going massively into debt is a total alpha move

frogbs, Monday, 30 April 2018 20:18 (five years ago) link

will his personal life implode before Tesla does?

Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Monday, 30 April 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link

looking at his twitter is the most annoying thing

he tweets some shitbag stupid ass shit like "I'm going to create an amphibious moped then shoot it into space" and there's a zillion responses from a bunch of dickriding wanna be Pied Piper ass motherfuckers like "OMG you're my hero"

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 30 April 2018 20:25 (five years ago) link

Awesome sauce!

badg, Monday, 30 April 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link

'everything is awesome', enjoyed without irony

Karl Malone, Monday, 30 April 2018 21:44 (five years ago) link

a month ago i thought about buying a share for the first time, risking it on tesla even though i knew there was a high chance of them going bankrupt. now i'm glad i held off.

adam the (abanana), Monday, 30 April 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link

yeah he seems unstable

lag∞n, Sunday, 6 May 2018 00:35 (five years ago) link

"I am super super serious," Musk said of his candy idea. He also tweeted a movie clip from the animated "Trolls," with characters dancing to Justin Timberlake’s song "Can’t Stop The Feeling!" Musk didn’t provide an explanation for the video.

lag∞n, Sunday, 6 May 2018 00:35 (five years ago) link

Thank god he stopped short of saying "super cereal"

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 May 2018 01:47 (five years ago) link

lol

imago, Monday, 7 May 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link

“Elon was researching the idea of joking about Rococo Basilisk, and when he saw Grimes had already joked about it, he reached out to her,” says the insider.

oldest trick in the book

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 7 May 2018 22:22 (five years ago) link

they said roko's basilisk would retroactively punish humanity but they could never foresee how

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 7 May 2018 22:52 (five years ago) link

lmaoooo

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 7 May 2018 23:22 (five years ago) link

You realise that if he was ever to become involved in some sort of scandal and subsequent cover-up, newspapers could use the headline, "Elongate"

― Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:50 (five years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if he was caught cheating he'd be THE MUSKRAT

― but with socks instead of football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:53 (five years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jumping in before nickb gets credit for muskrat an all

gneb farts (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 23:57 (five years ago) link

lolz

Kanye O'er Frae France? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 00:23 (five years ago) link

your rights are my rights are our rights tom get out and march

gneb farts (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 00:38 (five years ago) link

this is how much i never want to hear grimes

https://voices.clickhole.com/i-never-want-to-understand-sand-1825124083

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 01:52 (five years ago) link

grimes is pretty good!

the late great, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 01:53 (five years ago) link

learning of the existence of that clickhole blog jed posted is the best thing to come out of all this

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 03:50 (five years ago) link

my favorite headline of the day: Musk's Stock-Option Tweet May Invite U.S. Labor Board Complaint

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-22/musk-s-stock-option-tweet-may-invite-u-s-labor-board-complaint

Many Silicon Valley companies give employees shares that fully vest over a four-year period, which has made equity in fast-growing companies a critical part of employees’ compensation packages. The National Labor Relations Act forbids employers from threatening employees with loss of jobs or benefits if they join or vote for a union.

“This is an interesting example of an employer using social media for purposes of campaigning and sharing its views with employees before they vote to decide on representation,” Steven Swirsky, a former NLRB attorney who’s represented companies including Volkswagen AG, said in an interview. “I can foresee the union claiming that this is a threat that the company will discontinue this benefit if the workers chose to be represented.”

Musk would have been on safer legal ground, Liebman said, if he had just described collective bargaining as a give-and-take proposition and warned workers that they may lose benefits in the process.

a genius unlike any other

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 03:13 (five years ago) link

wow, there is no elon musk news

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link

Well, he's having quite the day on Twitter there.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 20:30 (five years ago) link

I was just coming over to say, it just keeps going.

Simon H., Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:05 (five years ago) link

PRAVDA

*kisses fingers*

Simon H., Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link

[texting]

GRIMES: 🌞 ¡good morninggg! 👻 xDDDD

MUSK: hello my evropa, my sparkling summer solstice of sweet sherry. no-gods do i love alliteration

GRIMES: what R U doin todayyy 🧠👀

MUSK: methinks at precisely 22:35 on the dot i shall tonguepunch your delectable twatterino ;P

— erica ✌️😉💜 (@babyfacepop) May 22, 2018

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:58 (five years ago) link

Thing I’ll be thinking about all day today: people offering hugs to Elon and buying Tesla stock in response to people roasting Elon Musk about not liking unions pic.twitter.com/G3pRJXu9Jr

— alan (@ActionAlan) May 23, 2018

Number None, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 23:12 (five years ago) link

he’s really owning the Gavin Belsen resemblance

attica attica (sciatica), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 23:22 (five years ago) link

Was his calling it Pravda some weird irony, or is he just stupid?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 24 May 2018 00:12 (five years ago) link

if nothing else, musk deserves the guillotine for further encouraging peter daou

https://i.redditmedia.com/CKxDpPvOIhr-Cz5UZgtp9RIzCi_3DZS2uGtZDX0o_IY.jpg?w=1024&s=1cfc619f2506d689b1b300ffafdf9c92

I'm sure the people who are motivated to evaluate the 'truth' of an article will be untainted, dispassionate defenders of 'verity'.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Thursday, 24 May 2018 13:01 (five years ago) link

that daou tweet made my day, just beautiful stuff

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Thursday, 24 May 2018 14:03 (five years ago) link

so he's just putting the struggle to combat lies and fake news with the pure authorized TruthTM "on hold" to work on a book?

this book will be nothing but lies.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 May 2018 14:05 (five years ago) link

I think he might even be lying about working on a book! Oh my gosh.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 24 May 2018 14:53 (five years ago) link

well well well

May 24 (Reuters) - The United Auto Workers International Union (UAW) has filed a complaint accusing Tesla Inc Chief Executive Elon Musk of illegally threatening to take away benefits from workers who join the union.

The UAW, which is seeking to represent workers at Tesla’s facility in Fremont, California, filed the complaint with the National Labor Relations Board late Wednesday.

Musk in a tweet on Monday said there was nothing stopping Tesla workers from joining a union, but “why pay union dues & give up stock options for nothing?”

https://www.reuters.com/article/tesla-union/union-accuses-tesla-ceo-musk-of-threatening-workers-idUSL2N1SV1DT

F# A# (∞), Thursday, 24 May 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link

That tweet katherine posted above is my least favorite thing I've seen on the internet this year.

how's life, Thursday, 24 May 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link

if I had to see it so do you

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 24 May 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link

(texting)

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:19 (five years ago) link

A great judge of the press.

This analysis is excellent. Applies principles of https://t.co/pLVH45gvOM https://t.co/EfAEPmH454

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 26, 2018


Hey buddy. Don't do this. You're making a terrible mistake. https://t.co/SxqsYh8V1s

— Brock Wilbur (@brockwilbur) May 26, 2018

Simon H., Sunday, 27 May 2018 01:10 (five years ago) link

Uh-oh, Elon Musk has caught a Twitter-specific mental disease. You've seen it before. Someone or some group on here has owned him so bad that he is re-aligning his whole life and worldview to prove them wrong. Happens all the time, but only Musk may blow up a planet as a result

— Vincent Bevins (@Vinncent) May 23, 2018

soref, Sunday, 27 May 2018 01:19 (five years ago) link

Non-trivial part of my timeline alternating between "Elon. Please. Stop Talking." and "only following @spacex now" performative outrage.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 27 May 2018 01:58 (five years ago) link

I think there’s another Twitter user who is actually much more likely to blow up earth as a result

El Tomboto, Sunday, 27 May 2018 02:08 (five years ago) link

Amazon has to ship to every military PO, right? Jeff decides to sneak an explosive in all the packages going to US bases worldwide

No way does the Trumpster have that pull

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Sunday, 27 May 2018 06:15 (five years ago) link

Anyone want to bet he’ll address the absolute flood of antisemites supporting him in the replies here?

Who do you think *owns* the press? Hello.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 27, 2018

Or is he going to be crying about the unfair media covering stuff like this?
http://www.thejournal.ie/tesla-autopilot-crash-4038417-May2018/

gyac, Sunday, 27 May 2018 11:45 (five years ago) link

It don’t take long to get to a pro-Assad anti Semitic Pepe the frog and that was enough.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 27 May 2018 12:14 (five years ago) link

Revolting.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Sunday, 27 May 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

lmao

Marx was a capitalist. He even wrote a book about it.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 15, 2018

sprout god (lag∞n), Saturday, 16 June 2018 00:43 (five years ago) link

Came to post that, hehehe we live in a fictional narrative this world isn’t real

Dan I., Saturday, 16 June 2018 01:11 (five years ago) link

I'm... pretty sure that has to be a joke. Even hating Elon Musk, I'm willing to extend credit that far.

emil.y, Saturday, 16 June 2018 11:54 (five years ago) link

Yeah he’s trying “humour” and it’s coming out exactly as you’d expect

U. K. Le Garage (wins), Saturday, 16 June 2018 11:59 (five years ago) link

he was just researching humour

Number None, Saturday, 16 June 2018 13:14 (five years ago) link

so yeah how many billions has Musk personally siphoned from public coffers?

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Saturday, 16 June 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link

http://money.cnn.com/2018/06/19/technology/tesla-fire-musk-note/index.html

...the Tesla employee had confessed to "quite extensive and damaging sabotage to our operations." The email said the employee made changes to the computer code of the company's manufacturing operating system. The employee also exported large amounts of highly sensitive company data to unknown third parties.

sleeve, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link

wreckers, comrades!

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:45 (five years ago) link

it reflects so badly on the impressive heads down type Stakhanovites who just love nothing less than making rich ppl much richer!

calzino, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:52 (five years ago) link

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/06/elon-musk-lauds-new-temporary-assembly-tent-as-factory-2-0-awaits/

"Not sure we actually need a building. This tent is pretty sweet."

LOLOLOL

calstars, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 23:02 (five years ago) link

the fake saboteur is responsible for that tesla catching fire for sure

mh, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:14 (five years ago) link

also the final mix of realiti

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 04:23 (five years ago) link

"Not sure we actually need an album version"

scopin' VARs (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 05:57 (five years ago) link

charges filed today, but only for stealing date, no sabotage

so basically some employee tried to leak documents about this guy's collapsing house of cards, is what I think

sleeve, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link

braver than the troops

Simon H., Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link

date = data

sleeve, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link

nearly every article about this is picking up on it, but it's worth noting that any time any of Musk's ventures has had a setback he's immediately jumped to the "sabotage!" angle

in 2016 he was convinced someone was firing a laser at his rocket from a neighboring building

mh, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-avaa9a_HU

Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link

Was actually someone else’s drawing of a unicorn on hidden Tesla sketch pad app & we gained no financial benefit. Have asked my team to use a diff example going forward. He can sue for money if he wants, but that’s kinda lame. If anything, this attention increased his mug sales.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 27, 2018

gyac, Thursday, 28 June 2018 08:14 (five years ago) link

this guy sucks

Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 28 June 2018 08:16 (five years ago) link

"Elon Musk has shown up with his mini-submarine and left it at the site, but the rescue chief has said it’s not of any use" #ThailandCaveRescue https://t.co/mxvo3jkYNn

— Claire Phipps (@Claire_Phipps) July 10, 2018

calzino, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 09:00 (five years ago) link

major whitey saviour fail, lol!

calzino, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 09:05 (five years ago) link

Elon Musk in Gazza/Moaty scenario.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 09:15 (five years ago) link

except gazza with his chicken and chips and a fishing rod might actually have been more useful in this case

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 09:28 (five years ago) link

I'm sure American ILXors are dying to contribute to this conversation.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 09:36 (five years ago) link

huh? in what way is Gaza connected with Musky?

calzino, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 09:39 (five years ago) link

moaty spent five days living in an underground sewage pipe iirc, gazza like musk turned up unbidden to offer his unsolicited assitance to the authorites who were trying to get him out

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 09:51 (five years ago) link

Indeed, tragic steroid-deranged wife beater and murderer or some schoolkids stupid enough to climb into a cave, I know where my sympathies lie.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 09:54 (five years ago) link

i was feigning ignorance there, for once!

calzino, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 09:55 (five years ago) link

I thought you were impersonating an American ILXor, though the fact that you didn't start your sentence with, "Excuse me, sir...", threw me a bit.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 09:58 (five years ago) link

in fairness to musk, maybe he'd just misunderstood what subbing players was all about

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 11:37 (five years ago) link

lol i came to this thread to report that i've now seen this identical joke emerge spontaneously/independently at least five times on twitter today -- well done everybody

mark s, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:00 (five years ago) link

so many people praising him for his selflessness "even if it didn't work"

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:02 (five years ago) link

ppl who defend musk in the comments are frickin wild man what a world

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:02 (five years ago) link

"I went to the hospital where a child was having open heart surgery. I brought a bowie knife and a wrench and was asked to leave. But the important thing is...I was there."

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link

"I left the knife and wrench there should they ever need them!!"

Simon H., Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link

yes i've seen that exchange half a dozen times too

"lol elon musk always a twat"
"SO WHAT DID YOU FUCKIN DO TO HELP ASSHOLE"

mark s, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link

not gonna link to hardtimes but I did chuckle at the parody headline "Elon Musk and Bono team up to invent world's first self-praising car"

sleeve, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link

did he also leave a sub captain or instructions?

omar little, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link

you know that a tesla submersible would be an utter fucking death trap too

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link

xp it's self-driving iirc (j/k)

sleeve, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

Gazza is a fucking hero.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

I've done plenty to help asshole

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link

read a blind item on crazy days and nights that was talking about how "unnamed tech ceo" with popstar gf is a huge coke head and a lightbulb appeared above my head. explains so much of his behaviour - firing a car into space and arguing with randos on twitter especially

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link

nm should probably take that to the rimming thread xpost

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link

saw a tweet reply literally all "musk doesnt care about good publicity hes a billionaire" lol

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:08 (five years ago) link

lmao

omar little, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:08 (five years ago) link

also spotted: "musk doesnt need publicity he shot a car into space"

mark s, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:10 (five years ago) link

had dinner w/my friend who works at tesla over the weekend and he's completely a non-cultist and was like "well, I've worked here almost two years, time to start hunting around"

also he admitted that some of the software engineers from his team were asked to come over to help carry parts around in the new tent-based production line

lol

mh, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link

also spotted: "musk doesnt need publicity he shot a car into space"

― mark s, Tuesday, July 10, 2018 1:10 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes the very same person in fact lol

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link

also he admitted that some of the software engineers from his team were asked to come over to help carry parts around in the new tent-based production line

lol

― mh, Tuesday, July 10, 2018 1:12 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

incredible

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link

well the good news is if anyone goes in that cave again and gets stuck there’s an unproven submersible no one knows how to operate made quickly by a man whose cars spontaneously combust ready to rescue them.

omar little, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:14 (five years ago) link

also it's too big to make it up and over a curve in the cave iirc

you can uh ride it halfway in

mh, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:16 (five years ago) link

there will be a video game made about Musk's heroic venture

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link

Doing the classic bum roommate move of leaving his shit behind in case anyone wants to use it huh

badg, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:31 (five years ago) link

i have an otherwise reasonable friend who admires musk and is taking the "at least he's trying to help people" line. "Our infrastructure is in shambles and someone is putting his own money into trying to fix it"

it's frustrating.

supreme court justice samuel lance-ito (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link

people need to understand that hating musk is fun and good

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link

"Our infrastructure is in shambles and someone is putting his own money into trying to fix it"

By sending a submarine to Thailand.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link

acquaintance of mine who snidely said he didn't think 'burger flippers deserved $15 an hour' and regularly posts "Be like Elon" memes that are riddled with factual errors also started a GoFundMe to repair his car after an accident (while not answering the question of why his insurance wouldn't be taking care of it).

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link

Here he is claiming to have helped out in Flint - someone queue up the Simpsons Spock gif

Already have

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 10, 2018

Simon H., Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link

found it

It's crazy to hear that people think he's doing this for the attention, do you honestly think the man that sent a car to space needs attention?

— TreyPenninger (@SSYGrunt) July 9, 2018

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link

incredible

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link

Can't get this out of my head now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOz7OEtaY90

mick signals, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link

His bootlicking cult is SO weird. Has anyone seen the woman who keeps trying to gift him crystals?

A person with any self awareness would feel ashamed about Trump managing to respond more appropriately ffs.

gyac, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link

No, it means I created jobs for 50,000 people directly and, through parts suppliers & supporting professions, ~250,000 people indirectly, thus supporting half a million families. What have you done?

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 10, 2018

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link

tbf abt 95% of the hot stanning is elon himself imo

mark s, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link

yegads

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link

has anyone noticed that all of Elon's adventures line up with stories in this kids' series? pretty sure this latest chapter covers both the time they built a submarine and the time people were lost in a cave

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mad_Scientists%27_Club

mh, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:01 (five years ago) link

LOL what a prat.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:02 (five years ago) link

did Elon just add 50k and 250k and come up with a half million xxp

mh, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link

I think his assumption was that every one of the 250,000 was married with a family, which somehow seems even worse to me

sleeve, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:05 (five years ago) link

wait even that's wrong, lol

sleeve, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:05 (five years ago) link

really cannot wait for whatever accounting scam theyre running over there at tesla to be exposed

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:05 (five years ago) link

otm

sleeve, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link

isn't there a kickstarter or something for the Tesla whistleblower? I oughta throw some $$ at that

Simon H., Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link

I wonder how often Elon would rather be a physics engineer, or lead technical designer instead of having to carry the label of billionaire. Regardless of whether or not the capsule ended up being feasible, the man sprung into action to help people he’s never met. #ThaiCaveResue

— Blake Kistler (@blake_kistler) July 10, 2018

What a burden.

Ironically, the “billionaire” label, when used by media, is almost always meant to devalue & denigrate the subject. I wasn’t called that until my companies got to a certain size, but reality is that I still do the same science & engineering as before. Just the scale has changed.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 10, 2018

gyac, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link

to answer my own question

https://www.gofundme.com/Tripp-vs-Tesla-help-fund-the-fight

Simon H., Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link

can we just shoot Elon Musk into space now plz

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link

I wasn’t called that until my companies got to a certain size,

like... the billion dollar valuation size?

but reality is that I still do the same science & engineering as before.

none, because you're not an engineer or scientist?

mh, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link

I like him for entertainment value.

Jeff, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link

surely his bloated corpse orbiting the moon would be entertaining

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link

"Our infrastructure is in shambles and someone is putting his own money into trying to fix it"

By sending a submarine to Thailand.

― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, July 10, 2018 5:38 PM (thirty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the infrastructure in question is digging a series of tunnels connecting elon's house and workplace and some other places he'd like to visit from time to time without sitting in traffic.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link

excuse me billionaire is a slur. blocked

U. K. Le Garage (wins), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link

if only there were some way to not be a billionaire oh well

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link

Imagine trying to coax one of the kids into that terrifying floating coffin after they've spent two weeks in a cave

Number None, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link

do you think the team working on it had to keep reminding each other not to call it that?

mh, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link

can't believe elon hired that man who put his boy in a balloon to lead his engineering team

scopin' VARs (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link

on the plus side he can repurpose those coffins to re-create The City of Freedom from the Holy Mountain

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_75a2BH0nUlA/SumXdfoFbII/AAAAAAAAANw/xYPyKv1Drzk/s640/mt4.jpg

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 20:47 (five years ago) link

turns out complaining about elon musk on the internet might bring some people in flint some water?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-11/musk-pledges-to-pay-for-clean-water-to-homes-in-flint-michigan

supreme court justice samuel lance-ito (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 22:25 (five years ago) link

so wait, was he actually asked to do this?

This reaction has shaken my opinion of many people. We were asked to create a backup option & worked hard to do so. Checked with dive team many times to confirm it was worthwhile. Now it’s there for anyone who needs it in future. Something’s messed up if this is not a good thing.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 11, 2018

frogbs, Thursday, 12 July 2018 02:49 (five years ago) link

I honestly think he completely made that shit up.

Simon H., Thursday, 12 July 2018 02:50 (five years ago) link

the important thing is that his opinion of many people has been shaken

sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 12 July 2018 03:03 (five years ago) link

One might even say he has been shook

El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 July 2018 03:16 (five years ago) link

ain't no such thing as halfway musks

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 July 2018 03:22 (five years ago) link

Update on @elonmusk’s promise to “fund fixing the water in any house in Flint that has water contamination above FDA levels”.

He now says “most houses in Flint have safe water” and he will “add filters” to the houses he describes as “outliers”.

💦🤔💦

cc: @LittleMissFlint pic.twitter.com/sLtKArGlNf

— Leah McElrath (@leahmcelrath) July 11, 2018

sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 12 July 2018 03:30 (five years ago) link

yeah I mean the trick is, as I have learned, a bunch of older homes have lead supply lines. under normal water flow, with the protectant additives, they don’t leach enough lead to be a problem — under EPA regs

but there’s non-lead (fine), lead that never had corrosive water and had protectants (mostly ok), and those that had corrosive water with no protectants for months but are now back to baseline (flint)

I think the latter is bouncing around EPA acceptable on the bad side and Elon stuck his foot in mouth

honesty I had half my supply line replaced this year and the under-street part is prob lead but not leaching and I am starting to really look into it

mh, Thursday, 12 July 2018 04:22 (five years ago) link

Catching up on this, and now imagining an Ace In The Hole remake centering on a fictionalized Musk in Douglas role.

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 July 2018 07:08 (five years ago) link

feel like when Elon Musk's story is written it'll pinpoint the article calling him the "real life Tony Stark" as the exact moment everything went downhill

frogbs, Thursday, 12 July 2018 14:22 (five years ago) link

I would pay good money to see him try to fly around with rocket boots and no safety harness

mh, Thursday, 12 July 2018 14:33 (five years ago) link

everyone knows the true real-life tony stark is that guy who built a backyard rocket and blasted himself towards the stratosphere so he could prove the earth was flat

still pretty sure he just grifted the flat earthers in order to build his rocket. respectable grift imo

mh, Thursday, 12 July 2018 14:58 (five years ago) link

musk is the rockwell character tbh

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 July 2018 15:09 (five years ago) link

xp

Hughes only recently converted to flat-Eartherism, after struggling for months to raise funds for his follow-up flight over the Mojave.

sleepingsignal, Thursday, 12 July 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link

darragh otm

mh, Thursday, 12 July 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link

Elon Musk revealed as one of the largest donors for a House Republican PAC https://t.co/3bLF6yzTMR

— Salon (@Salon) July 14, 2018



I’m *this* close to deciding elton might not be the green egalitarian new Christ

U. K. Le Garage (wins), Saturday, 14 July 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link

one weird fact about the billionaire environmentalist

sprout god (lag∞n), Saturday, 14 July 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link

Is it possible to put the thinky face emoji in bold type

U. K. Le Garage (wins), Saturday, 14 July 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link

you have to admit that musk is in the ninety-ninth percentile as a self-promoter. he has the knack for making pronouncements just weird enough to get big play in the media, not so weird he loses the faith of the investor class, but which generally hit the sweet spot of "brilliant eccentric"

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 14 July 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link

it's almost as if the media is easily gamed by billionaires

more like Toss, Ow amirite? (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 July 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link

Potentially a positive development if disillusioned groupies start thinking critically re hero worshipping obscenely wealthy entrepreneurs

U. K. Le Garage (wins), Saturday, 14 July 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link

elton johns

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 July 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link

That’s no way to refer to grimus

U. K. Le Garage (wins), Saturday, 14 July 2018 18:49 (five years ago) link

it's almost as if the media is easily gamed by billionaires

― more like Toss, Ow amirite? (Noodle Vague), Saturday, July 14, 2018 2:25 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"these billionaires sure are amazing at media" --the media

sprout god (lag∞n), Saturday, 14 July 2018 19:29 (five years ago) link

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/thai-cave-rescue-elon-musk-mini-submarine-british-driver-tham-luang-vern-unsworth-a8447166.html

“The submarine, I believe, was about five foot six long, rigid, so it wouldn’t have gone round corners or round any obstacles.

“It wouldn’t have made the first 50 metres into the cave from the dive start point. Just a PR stunt.”

The experienced cave explorer said Musk was “asked to leave very quickly” after he turned up at the caverns during the rescue operation on Tuesday.

Brit diver who helped locate the lost party says Musk can 'stick his submarine (which looks like an oversized suppository) where it hurts'

calzino, Sunday, 15 July 2018 08:46 (five years ago) link

guy who helped save kids points out EM’s thing was an unworkable publicity stunt... EM calls the guy a pedophile. we are weeks away from “Enron Musk” headlines https://t.co/WArAW4Gxdb

— Owen Ellickson (@onlxn) July 15, 2018

frogbs, Sunday, 15 July 2018 14:46 (five years ago) link

starting to think this guy might be problematic tbh

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 15 July 2018 14:51 (five years ago) link

Oh no this is gorgeous

Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Sunday, 15 July 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link

His suckage gets more classic on a daily basis

Kinda strange to consider now that only a few weeks ago grimus fans were extremely betrayed that the empress of shitpostcore would deign to date him

Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Sunday, 15 July 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link

Never saw this British expat guy who lives in Thailand (sus) at any point when we were in the caves. Only people in sight were the Thai navy/army guys, who were great. Thai navy seals escorted us in — total opposite of wanting us to leave.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 15, 2018

gbx, Sunday, 15 July 2018 14:57 (five years ago) link

You know what, don’t bother showing the video. We will make one of the mini-sub/pod going all the way to Cave 5 no problemo. Sorry pedo guy, you really did ask for it.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 15, 2018

gbx, Sunday, 15 July 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link

what a scumbag

gbx, Sunday, 15 July 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link

that's gotta be actionable

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:00 (five years ago) link

Yes, have fun suing the insanely rich person.

Simon H., Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:07 (five years ago) link

Slam dunk libel case in the British courts.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:09 (five years ago) link

Which drugs do we think he’s on?

El Tomboto, Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link

mixture of cocaine and grown adults unironically calling him batman/iron man

Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link

Dragonambienergy

shaqiri tip (nashwan), Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:18 (five years ago) link

The thing that really bugs me about Musk is how unspecial he is. Union-fearing dweebs with either a serious coke habit, some freak diet, or both, along with reactionary politics, megalomania, and breathtaking self-regard are nothing special, esp in the tech sector. Really the only difference is his visibility, willingness to say stupid shit in public, and his immense army of extremely online sycophants.

Simon H., Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:19 (five years ago) link

Which drugs do we think he’s on?

― El Tomboto, Sunday, July 15, 2018 11:16 AM (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

adderall, paranoid about getting busted for accounting fraud

sprout god (lag∞n), Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link

his immense army of extremely online sycophants.

― Simon H., Sunday, July 15, 2018 11:19 AM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

suspect many of them may be controlled by a pr firm, theres something uncanny about how they all pop up saying the same shit

sprout god (lag∞n), Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link

he's actually rich enough to have a cocaine habit

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link

He’s definitely petty enough to hire a pr firm to stroke him off on Twitter

frogbs, Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

less stroking off, more stroking out pls elton

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link

elon musk go to mars bitch

sprout god (lag∞n), Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link

That may be so re his Twitter fluffers but the uncritical cult is real, I have encountered them

Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link

yeah hes def actually popular irl but just something about the pattern on twitter makes me suspicious

sprout god (lag∞n), Sunday, 15 July 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link

Elon Musk more like Noel Skum

shaqiri tip (nashwan), Sunday, 15 July 2018 16:06 (five years ago) link

damn

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 15 July 2018 16:07 (five years ago) link

It's comforting to think the lackeys are paid/controlled but no, a lot of people really do just admire him and will defend his honor against fiendish literal hero rescue divers. People say the same shit a lot cause they're dumb and parrot the same shit, no different from people who @ commies and socialists with posts that literally just say "Venezuela"

Simon H., Sunday, 15 July 2018 16:07 (five years ago) link

yeah hes def actually popular irl but just something about the pattern on twitter makes me suspicious

― sprout god (lag∞n), Sunday, July 15, 2018 12:05 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sprout god (lag∞n), Sunday, 15 July 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link

It’s funny when you see on Twitter someone is arguing with some dumb as a bathtub maga chud & then someone else runs their posts thru a bot checker & it’s 90% and they’re like aha! but it’s like... stupid people post like that

Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Sunday, 15 July 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link

(This isn’t arguing against your post lagn, no need to c&p again)

Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Sunday, 15 July 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link

one of the things about musks fans that set off the —alarm— is theyre not generally rude or mad theyre more "wow what have you done to improve humanity like this great man" i mean its def within the realm of possibility that he just has the most boring fans of anyone in the world but i just wldnt be surprised if when this scam all shakes out that theres not a story about payments to a shady pr firm

sprout god (lag∞n), Sunday, 15 July 2018 16:23 (five years ago) link

Elon Musk has definitely jumped the shark lately, no? I'd expect people to jump ship sooner or later, but I'd thought the same about Assange and Greenwald at this point, so what do I know.

Frederik B, Sunday, 15 July 2018 16:30 (five years ago) link

Elon is developing a new kind of shark. What have you done?

Number None, Sunday, 15 July 2018 16:33 (five years ago) link

lol

sprout god (lag∞n), Sunday, 15 July 2018 16:33 (five years ago) link

is he really jumping the shark? clowning on this guy for not being progressive has always been in fashion. look at this thread, it's all about highlighting sycophants and then complaining about their influence. the Elon PWN Cycle is simply compounding at an exponential rate, vis a vis the brain dead ease of Fandom Shaming.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 15 July 2018 17:08 (five years ago) link

Being popular with isolated sociopaths doesn't equal being IRL popular, fuck this protoplasm.

Jules Rimet still leaving (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 July 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link

I think Fred is referring to him calling a random rescue worker a pedo and insisting he will prove his useless mini-sub could have saved the kids that have already been saved

El Tomboto, Sunday, 15 July 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link

he will prove his useless mini-sub could have saved the kids that have already been saved

good. it will keep him occupied and off the streets. unless, of course, he doesn't follow through with his announced plan. but when was that ever true?

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 15 July 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoCze4CNEms

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Sunday, 15 July 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link

Really hope Unsworth takes Musk to the cleaners for that disgusting slur.

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 15 July 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link

lol nice try losers!!!! pic.twitter.com/SFbZ4VSjuJ

— libby watson (@libbycwatson) July 15, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 15 July 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link

I guess you could argue that billionaire cretins function more as torches than sirens

Jules Rimet still leaving (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 July 2018 20:03 (five years ago) link

I think Fred is referring to him calling a random rescue worker a pedo and insisting he will prove his useless mini-sub could have saved the kids that have already been saved

― El Tomboto, 15. juli 2018 19:13 (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well, that and a bunch of other stuff these last few weeks. He seems to spend more and more time shouting at random people on twitter.

Frederik B, Sunday, 15 July 2018 21:34 (five years ago) link

clearly a presidency bid

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 July 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link

tweets all gone now. Liked the comment that he catches fire as fast as one of his cars.

gyac, Sunday, 15 July 2018 22:19 (five years ago) link

Everybody goes so hard on Elon Musk because if you dunk on, like, Cruz or McConnell nothing happens; they don't care. It's like punching the wind. But if you make fun of Elon Musk, there's at least a 93% chance he'll see it and turn beet red and steam will shoot out of his ears

— brans💋n reese (@bransonreese) July 11, 2018

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 15 July 2018 22:44 (five years ago) link

heh

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiLOWZ3W0AAbQp_.jpg

sprout god (lag∞n), Monday, 16 July 2018 00:14 (five years ago) link

OK I was convinced before, but that dude is totally on the payroll.

El Tomboto, Monday, 16 July 2018 00:28 (five years ago) link

Gritty remake of Iron Man where Tony Stark spends all day fighting with random people on Twitter before getting in trouble for making unfounded accusations of pedophilia.

— Murtaza Mohammad Hussain (@MazMHussain) July 16, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 16 July 2018 00:30 (five years ago) link

heh

🖼


and have people considered that when he said “this British expat guy who lives in Thailand (sus)” the sus was short for sustenance (thai food)

estela, Monday, 16 July 2018 00:34 (five years ago) link

Gotta give it up for the musketeers, “Latin for foot” is some “German for the bart the” shit

Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Monday, 16 July 2018 05:58 (five years ago) link

I suspect "pobudz" might be on an ironic tip with that reddit comment fwiw. It is really Poe's Lawish tho.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 16 July 2018 06:17 (five years ago) link

Soon all musk defenders will be doing it ironically

Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Monday, 16 July 2018 06:27 (five years ago) link

musky tears

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 16 July 2018 06:46 (five years ago) link

ew

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 16 July 2018 07:00 (five years ago) link

Keep skipping Grimes tracks when they come on in the car because of this asshole.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 16 July 2018 11:30 (five years ago) link

Really hope Unsworth takes Musk to the cleaners for that disgusting slur.

― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 15 July 2018 19:44 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Reportedly considering this - hope it’s true.

gyac, Monday, 16 July 2018 11:53 (five years ago) link

Elon Musk is the Finchy to his fans' Gareth.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUymt9NCEAALj4z.jpg

Eliza D., Monday, 16 July 2018 12:03 (five years ago) link

i missed that ppl thought he was some beneficent post-Christmas Scrooge

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 July 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link

He should crowdfund his legal fees, should get as much as he needs within half an hour.

Jules Rimet still leaving (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 July 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link

This chrome plugin which replaces 'Elon Musk' with 'Grimes's boyfriend' is making the internet slightly more fun today

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 16 July 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link

typically weaselly words from the Musk rat
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44870303

Neil S, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 08:09 (five years ago) link

I was re-telling this incident to this posh bloke in a pub the other night, and he was absolutely incredulous about the Musky pedo slur - "no no no, he is a very important guy and wouldn't do that". My first encounter with an irl musketeer, no less!

calzino, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 09:06 (five years ago) link

tbf i think a lot of longterm musk hatewatchers were also startled by it

mark s, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 09:12 (five years ago) link

I thought the capacity to be startled by an American billionaire acting like a complete cock might be a bit reduced in recent times!

calzino, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 09:17 (five years ago) link

also, he's apologizing by ... running some kind of cryptocurrency promotion?

I know that sometimes people can get angry and voice an opinion that looks aggressive. Reacting in the way I did was not a good thing. As such I thought of a cool way to make amends with anyone who feels offended.
A way to get yourself free crypto. How does it sound?

Conditions are pretty simple. Just visit:

musk-official-giveaway.com/btc/ - for free BTC

musk-official-giveaway.com/eth/ - for free ETH

P.s. If you send in 3 BTC or 30 ETH, you will get the Grand Prize: a customized Tesla 3 model, delivery included. Limited to one participant! DM me on Twitter if you did that and we will sort everything out.

Thanks,
Elon.

soref, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 09:22 (five years ago) link

sorry, that is from a fake Elon Musk twitter account. this one is from the real Musk, though:

As this well-written article suggests, my words were spoken in anger after Mr. Unsworth said several untruths & suggested I engage in a sexual act with the mini-sub, which had been built as an act of kindness & according to specifications from the dive team leader.

soref, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 09:25 (five years ago) link

i was fully ready to accept the crypto competition as real tbh, seems like exactly the kind of thing he'd do

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 09:28 (five years ago) link

Telling Musk to “stick his sub where it hurts” is not necessarily the same as suggesting he “engage in a sexual act”.

michaellambert, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 09:37 (five years ago) link

It is for this sub-fucking degenerate

Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 09:47 (five years ago) link

And to think he wanted to shove kids in there before fucking it. Shameful

Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 09:47 (five years ago) link

he's sunk to new depths

Neil S, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 09:48 (five years ago) link

TS: sexual acts with submarine vs. sexual acts with children.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 09:51 (five years ago) link

grinding nemo

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 09:56 (five years ago) link

lol!

calzino, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 09:56 (five years ago) link

my words were spoken in anger after Mr. Unsworth said several untruths & suggested I engage in a sexual act with the mini-sub

lmfao

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 09:57 (five years ago) link

gonna be the new kanye stage rant

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 09:57 (five years ago) link

(sex) toy story

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 09:57 (five years ago) link

think i might be detecting some attempt to present an equivalency between submarines and children here, elon sees the sub as his child perhaps

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 09:58 (five years ago) link

seems more like a straightforward sub-dom relaysh to me tbh

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 10:01 (five years ago) link

ayy lol

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 10:02 (five years ago) link

I mean, the whole sub idea does seem like something Musk just pulled out of his arse.

michaellambert, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 10:04 (five years ago) link

Something something up periscope.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 10:06 (five years ago) link

jacque cousteau could never get this low

Clay, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 10:12 (five years ago) link

the life erotic

Vernon Locke, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 10:36 (five years ago) link

yes

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 10:37 (five years ago) link

spelunking
the act of exploring for the missing condom after deep penetration
The next morning, "Oh yeah, we never found it. Better get out the head lamp so we can go spelunking."

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 10:38 (five years ago) link

Lost Johnny's out there.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 10:42 (five years ago) link

Elon should find out what that Jared Fogle fellow is up to these days

Neil S, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 11:08 (five years ago) link

I mean obviously the glaring problem is that it’s a craven, manipulative billionaire weirdo punching wayyyyy down to a literal hero who rescues children from cave death, but if the tables were turned we do have to admit that “this British expat guy who lives in Thailand (sus)” is kind of a good zing

we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 13:19 (five years ago) link

do we tho is my question

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 13:20 (five years ago) link

Twitter as a force of seeing into dark celebrity souls

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 13:23 (five years ago) link

“this British expat guy who lives in Thailand (sus)” is kind of a good zing

― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:19 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

see and if he had just stuck with that he wldve been in the clear but he had to go and spell it out and now hes gonna have to give that guy a million dollars

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 13:28 (five years ago) link

hard to believe this story could get any better but just lmao @ "he suggested I engage in a sexual act with the mini-sub"

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 13:29 (five years ago) link

'he shuggests you fuck your subsh, you shuggest he fucksh kidsh'

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fbplusmovieblog.files.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F03%2Fthe-untouchables-17.png&f=1

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 13:32 (five years ago) link

TORPEDOOOOO MUSSSK!!!!!!!!!

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 13:35 (five years ago) link

what if everyone involved in the rescue operation outside of the thai government actually were pedos

mh, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 13:44 (five years ago) link

if we agree to leave aside "punching down" (and remember we dont) would it even apply to interaction on twitter (not in any way that would leave it meaning anything (and remember it doesnt))

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 13:45 (five years ago) link

xp u joke but it happened the bbc

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 13:45 (five years ago) link

Now that the kids have been rescued he can move on to teh future problem of thai kids stuck on mars

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 14:00 (five years ago) link

how to rescue Whitey on the Moon

Neil S, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link

Good to see Musk learned something from this, oh wait (from his likes!)

Dear Elon Musk: Feel the love, respect, and peace flowing to you from those of us who look up to you and respect you. ❤🙏✌@elonmusk https://t.co/d0b1vFHtwv

— Johnna💎 (@JohnnaSabri) July 17, 2018

gyac, Thursday, 19 July 2018 08:38 (five years ago) link

If you understand this joke I recommend taking a few days off from the internet

i make-a the bitcoin scam yes

— italian elom tusk ☭ (@muslimbanned) July 19, 2018

Simon H., Thursday, 19 July 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-18/musk-enlisted-sierra-club-to-deflect-flak-over-donation-to-gop

wish I'd kept up my tweet about how Musk buys into the "donate money and then they have to do what you say" model because he apparently really did call the Sierra Club and say "I give you money please tell everyone I'm a good guy"

mh, Thursday, 19 July 2018 17:40 (five years ago) link

In keeping with the spirit of the thread, may I present this amazing article about the "solar roof" vaporware

money quotes:

"...the company instructed some employees to avoid fielding Solar Roof inquiries due its limited availability."

and this:

"One user said Tesla has been unable to given even a rough estimate of when their systems will be delivered."

here's the full article:

https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/tesla-solar-and-storage-delays-and-deliveries#gs.L3Kul6s

sleeve, Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link

Theory - Tesla cars will remain the unreachable luxury items never be the next consumer - everyday car

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link

xp I think the red flag there was when SolarCity was supposedly its own thing and "not the same company" but run by Elon's cousin, followed by them giving up and folding it into Tesla

mh, Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

oh totally, I'm just enjoying the ensuing clusterfuck

sleeve, Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link

I never asked my friend about it but the impression I got was that coordinating panel installation as a front for selling the home batteries wasn't working great, and then the actual home batteries aren't a great business either

mh, Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:30 (five years ago) link

the Powerwalls are mostly useless IMO, the LG Chem batteries seamlessly integrate with Solar Edge inverters. LG is now sold out until August/September, indicating that there is high demand for a product that doesn't depend on "authorized dealers"

sleeve, Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:32 (five years ago) link

I would think powerwall would appeal to island dwellers and wilderness buffs only - or rich people who want to be green

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Friday, 20 July 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link

it's useless without the power grid, not designed for off-grid systems

sleeve, Friday, 20 July 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link

The Powerwall 2 is probably the best home battery you can buy today but far from the best there could be and they are not without issues. Price/performance is really good. None of this really matters because they are almost unobtainable.

LGChem comprehensively outsell them in Australia because they have stock available where Tesla don’t. In Germany Sonnen beats Tesla as do a number of other brands partly because germans buy German, are prepared to pay a premium for quality and partly because Sonnen offer a longer performance warranty.

The SolarEdge LG combo is okay, especially if you go DC coupled and need an optimiser solution. It’s somewhat let down by a somewhat elderly control system which doesn’t react particular quickly to changes in load which wastes a bit of energy. The LGChem battery is tricky to site outdoors as it is passive cooled and doesn’t like sunshine, much better in a garage or cellar.

Huawei have an interesting inverter that works with the LGChem packs but I have had a chance to test one yet.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 20 July 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link

great info Ed, thanks!

sleeve, Friday, 20 July 2018 15:37 (five years ago) link

there is talk in my town of replacing a power substation with batteries - I dont know much about such things but I imagine a warehouse of powerwalls to supplement the grid

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Friday, 20 July 2018 16:13 (five years ago) link

Replacing a substation with batteries doesn’t seem credible but using them to defer or displace a capital upgrade, eg. a new transmission line or transformer is credible. Tesla’s powerpack commercial battery is a pretty good piece of engineering. The liquid cooling allows them to creat a flexible, modular system that consists of inverter and battery blocks that are the size of an oversized telephone kiosk.

Most other manufacturers aircool and use computer racking, often mounted in shipping containers to hold racks of batteries like servers, with separate containers for inverters etc.

Whose batteries are better depends on the application, duty cycle and how badly Elon wants to do the project.

Fun fact Tesla uses Samsung cells in powerwalls and power packs when they can’t make enough of their own.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 20 July 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

I think Latham is referring to using storage to decommission natural gas peakers, in Oxnard specifically:

https://www.renewableenergyworld.com/ugc/articles/2018/07/17/declining-battery-storage-costs-raise-questions-about-the-role-of-natural-gas.html

sleeve, Friday, 20 July 2018 23:04 (five years ago) link

probably should take this to the energy thread but w/e

sleeve, Friday, 20 July 2018 23:04 (five years ago) link

I’m seeing a lot of RFPs from public agencies interested in deferring capital investments or decomissioning peaker plants by using some combo of batteries and distributed generation resources. Dunno how viable any of the solutions are but there’s def a big demand for this stuff, and tons of people are rushing to fill it. Ed’s info seems good as far as I understand this stuff.

Οὖτις, Friday, 20 July 2018 23:12 (five years ago) link

extremely good ceo has a normal one

One of Tesla’s biggest anonymous trolls/shorts has been doxxed as an investment manager heavily invested in the oil industry.

He has now deleted his Twitter account, which he used to promote his blog posts about Tesla and attack anyone saying anything that could be perceived as positive on Tesla, after Tesla CEO Elon Musk reportedly called his boss to complain about his behavior.

We are talking about ‘Montana Skeptic’ who has been using Seeking Alpha, a financial blog aggregator, and Twitter to push the bear case on Tesla for the past 3 years.

https://electrek.co/2018/07/24/tesla-troll-short-doxxed-oil-industry-musk-calls-boss/

a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 10:25 (five years ago) link

Highlighted the wrong part imo.

how's life, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 10:29 (five years ago) link

what, the 'heavily involved in the oil industry' part?

a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 10:48 (five years ago) link

Last night I dreamt that Elon Musk was in charge of mitigating, via his supposed technological wizardry, the end of the world, which was occurring via a great flow of lava across the entire earth's surface, but he kept messing it all up with self-aggrandizing schemes akin to the Thai cave rescue submarine fiasco, as humanity gradually succumbed to the molten rock.

brain (krakow), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 11:51 (five years ago) link

'heavily involved in the oil Energon industry'

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/3/3c/EnergonCubesCartoon1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070120063926

how's life, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 12:16 (five years ago) link

extremely good social media company has a normal one

Twitter has implemented a new method for combating cryptocurrency scammers: it now automatically locks unverified accounts that change their display name to Elon Musk. If you have a non-verified account that is not associated with a phone number, changing your display name to that of the SpaceX and Tesla CEO will result in an immediate lock out. Twitter will then ask you to pass a CAPTCHA test, as well as provide a phone number, to regain access.

“As part of our continuing efforts to combat spam and malicious activity on our service, we’re testing new measures to challenge accounts that use terms commonly associated with spam campaigns. We are continually refining these detections based on changes in spammy activity,” a Twitter spokesperson said in a statement given to The Verge. The company declined to comment on whether the measure has been put in place for any other public figure’s Twitter account.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/24/17610348/twitter-elon-musk-display-name-change-lock-account-crypto-scams?utm_campaign=theverge&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 26 July 2018 12:32 (five years ago) link

Everyone with that name is a scammer tbf

jeremy cmbyn (wins), Thursday, 26 July 2018 12:37 (five years ago) link

tru

a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 26 July 2018 12:50 (five years ago) link

twitter-elon-musk-display-name-change-lock-account-crypto-scams?utm_campaign=theverge&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Thursday, 26 July 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link

ok lol, missed this yesterday.

Update 6:13 p.m.: Tesla spokesperson Dave Arnold sent along a statement, seemingly confirming some of the situation and, using Skeptic’s real name, said Skeptic’s employer “is a longtime Tesla supporter and was one of the first to purchase a Model S.”

https://jalopnik.com/get-a-load-of-this-ridiculous-story-about-how-elon-musk-1827842961

how's life, Thursday, 26 July 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link

Just posted a $717 million net quarterly loss.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 20:57 (five years ago) link

how the hell can they be losing money with great ideas like these

If you’re into video game development, consider applying to Tesla. We want to make super fun games that integrate the center touch screen, phone & car irl.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) August 1, 2018

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link

Like Pokemon Go! But with people swerving across motorways....

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 22:16 (five years ago) link

The future is fucking stupid.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 23:16 (five years ago) link

THE STOCK MARKET IS SO RATIONAL!!!

Tesla shares are literally going up and down based on how much of a pissy dickhead and/or phony insincere apologist Elon Musk is on any given day:

Elon Musk makes the ‘most valuable apology of all time’ on Tesla's earnings call

Tesla shares are surging after Elon Musk apologized to Wall Street analysts over his behavior on the company's previous conference call.

Three months earlier, the stock plunged in after-hours trading in response to what Musk called "boring, bonehead questions" from analysts.

This time, Musk showed contrition and Tesla shares surged 8.5 percent in after-hours trading Wednesday, adding about $4.75 billion to the stock's value.

KeyBanc Capital Markets called it "maybe the most valuable apology of all time."

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 August 2018 14:45 (five years ago) link

it's all apologies and the promise of magic beans

companies that actually produce a reasonable number of products or have income are boring

mh, Friday, 3 August 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link

BREAKING: Elon Musk invents device that allows you to play video games instead of speaking to investors

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 August 2018 14:54 (five years ago) link

A fun little breakdown of their current woes.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 3 August 2018 15:01 (five years ago) link

starting to get the impression that Elon is getting bored with the idea of cars. just doesn't seem that into cars anymore

mh, Friday, 3 August 2018 15:14 (five years ago) link

A fun little breakdown of their current woes.

― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, August 3, 2018 10:01 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

good read!

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 August 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link

agreed, thanks

sleeve, Friday, 3 August 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link

need to find a way to convince these vc idiots to give me one billion to flush down the toilet (after giving myself a significant chunk of it)

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 3 August 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link

starting to get the impression that Elon is getting bored with the idea of cars. just doesn't seem that into cars anymore

― mh, Friday, August 3, 2018 11:14 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so elon's midlife crisis is the opposite of normal midlife crises

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 3 August 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link

hmm he's still dating progressively younger women, so it's too early to judge

mh, Friday, 3 August 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link

BUSINESS
Elon Musk’s Twitter Account: ‘Am Considering Taking Tesla Private at $420’
Tesla stock rose 6.3% to $363.56

someone trying to go to jail

@elonmusk
Am considering taking Tesla private at $420. Funding secured.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/elon-musks-twitter-account-am-considering-taking-tesla-private-at-420-1533661152

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link

spose he cld argue he was just super stoned

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link

stock should've risen to 6.9%

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link

There had been reports that Musk met with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman during his recent visit to the U.S.A. but Musk tweeted on May 22nd that he did not in fact meet with Bin Salman https://t.co/SAsvkyYD6C

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) August 7, 2018

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link

wish i knew how to short a stock

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

trading suspended

lol this guy is such a putz

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

wish i knew how to short a stock

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, August 7, 2018 6:26 PM (fourteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

same. I regret not shorting zynga many moons ago. However shorting can blow up in your face if you make the wrong call. gambling lol.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link

did this guy just commit some kind of fraud or is he just an idiot

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link

if the first then the second

mark s, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link

wish i knew how to short a stock
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, August 7, 2018 6:26 PM (fourteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

same. I regret not shorting zynga many moons ago. However shorting can blow up in your face if you make the wrong call. gambling lol.

― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, August 7, 2018 11:28 AM (twenty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah so as i understand it you borrow the stock, then sell it, then buy it and return it when it goes in to the toilet. i guess that if instead the stock blows up then you'd be on the hook for huge sums of money (which I'm obviously not good for) so i guess no one would allow me to do so anyway

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link

Elon is the poo rman's Ray Kurzweil

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link

lmao

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link

Buying puts is probably a better/safer idea than just shorting, but I've never actually done either. As John Maynard Keynes said "The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent."

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 20:07 (five years ago) link

Musk is a fucking idiot

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 20:07 (five years ago) link

so is Kurzweil

not sure which is richer (I would assume Elon but idk)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link

He is a donor to the GOP he can do whatever he wants at this point. The US is but a playground for billionaires, if he wants to wrekt shorters with one illegal troll tweet, he can because they will be damned if the US isn't the land of snake oil vendors.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 20:13 (five years ago) link

which stocks would you short based on idiocy of the CEOs? a buddy thinks the GoPro guy is a doofus.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link

the success of gopro is incredible a camera you strap to yr head lol god bless

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link

which stocks would you short based on idiocy of the CEOs? a buddy thinks the GoPro guy is a doofus.

― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, August 8, 2018 9:19 AM (fifty-three minutes ago)

You're 2-3 years too late, back when that company used to have significant worth/market action... same with Fitbit.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link

many making the case that sonos will be next: https://www.statista.com/chart/14995/stock-performance-of-fitbit-gopro-and-sonos/

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link

price kinda crashed after I posted that :o. Fwiw, i don't think the ceo is an idiot. I think it's a well run shop.

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 9 August 2018 03:48 (five years ago) link

Elon's twitter power extends to his ilx thread

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 9 August 2018 03:49 (five years ago) link

still laughing at "take the stock private at $420" tbh

he really missed the boat by not adding "in 69 days!"

mh, Monday, 13 August 2018 19:24 (five years ago) link

Man pr stunts are so crazy now

F# A# (∞), Monday, 13 August 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link

waiting for grimes

sprout god (lag∞n), Monday, 13 August 2018 23:20 (five years ago) link

BUSINESS
Elon Musk’s Twitter Account: ‘Am Considering Taking Tesla Private at $420’
Tesla stock rose 6.3% to $363.56

someone trying to go to jail

@elonmusk
Am considering taking Tesla private at $420. Funding secured.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/elon-musks-twitter-account-am-considering-taking-tesla-private-at-420-1533661152

― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, August 7, 2018 1:11 PM (six days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

spose he cld argue he was just super stoned

― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, August 7, 2018 1:12 PM (six days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha!

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 01:46 (five years ago) link

Mods please merge this with the grimes thread

faculty w1fe (silby), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 01:49 (five years ago) link

(btw not laughing at the 420 joke so much as the revelation that he was allegedly tripping when he tweeted that)

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 02:01 (five years ago) link

fuck Banks for making fun of down syndrome

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 04:08 (five years ago) link

turns out tweeting is a bad idea

https://www.wired.com/story/tesla-private-elon-musk-sec-investigation

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 01:46 (five years ago) link

Yes. That seems like blatant market manipulation and fraud, even if he was stoned silly when he tweeted it and had not the foggiest clue how serious his misstatement was.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 16 August 2018 03:36 (five years ago) link

Lol

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 16 August 2018 03:54 (five years ago) link

where does the rank on the scale of 420 jokes

Karl Malone, Thursday, 16 August 2018 04:02 (five years ago) link

this

pretty high

Karl Malone, Thursday, 16 August 2018 04:03 (five years ago) link

Sometimes a 420 joke boomerangs back on you

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 16 August 2018 04:03 (five years ago) link

i would say it's more like it blows back up in your face

Karl Malone, Thursday, 16 August 2018 04:04 (five years ago) link

A boy genius billionaire but doesn’t even know when to let go of the carb. Sad

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 16 August 2018 04:12 (five years ago) link

did he fix the water in Flint yet

frogbs, Friday, 17 August 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link

they're going to drink his tears iirc

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 August 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link

it's weird, it's almost like wall street should assign huge valuations to companies that have never even flirted profitability and are run by a weirdo who acts like he's 15 years old

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 August 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

i must admit i'm intrigued by his “from a personal pain standpoint, the worst is yet to come" bit

passive-aggressive method to try to avoid getting dumped?

Karl Malone, Friday, 17 August 2018 19:50 (five years ago) link

I've long ago lost interest in that clown but yeah

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 18 August 2018 00:27 (five years ago) link

haven't the Tesla workers suffered enough already

Neil S, Saturday, 18 August 2018 09:41 (five years ago) link

"There’s a reason for the word ‘stoned.’ You just sit there like a stone on weed.”

- Elon Musk

chinavision!, Saturday, 18 August 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link

Elton musk confirmed crank advocate

jeremy cmbyn (wins), Saturday, 18 August 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link

makes u think

ghost beef (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 18 August 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link

He truly is a real life Robert Downey junior

jeremy cmbyn (wins), Saturday, 18 August 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link

haha

ghost beef (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 18 August 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link

nice

sprout god (lag∞n), Sunday, 19 August 2018 04:17 (five years ago) link

i only just now parsed "you just sit there like a stone on weed" correctly

No organ. (crüt), Sunday, 19 August 2018 05:49 (five years ago) link

Hahah right? I was like "moffe on the skull... no wait"

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 19 August 2018 06:13 (five years ago) link

Top Gear ran a drag race between the new electric Jaguar and a Tesla and the Jaguar won. The Muskovites have arrived in the comments section to the video explaining how the video is clearly faked and if it isn't it doesn't matter and that Jaguar made bad cars in the 70s and that every single problem with the Tesla is a feature you are too dumb to understand. It's fun!

Three Word Username, Sunday, 19 August 2018 09:22 (five years ago) link

Sounds like

El Tomboto, Sunday, 19 August 2018 12:32 (five years ago) link

Yikes

A former Tesla employee, who worked on their IT infrastructure, is posting in a subforum of a subforum, a little-known place for funy computer forgotten by time. His NDA has expired.

He has such sights to show us. Join me and I will be your silent guide into a world of horror. pic.twitter.com/uFDOj0x5Zy

— ato̧̕m̀͡i̴̷̛c̨͝t͝҉͡h̷҉u̵̶m͜͞b͏͝s̀́ (@atomicthumbs) August 24, 2018

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link

wow

sleeve, Friday, 24 August 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link

makes me nostalgic for fuckedcompany

a roomba of one's own (rip van wanko), Friday, 24 August 2018 21:49 (five years ago) link

lol

For the record, my voice cracked once during the NY Times article. That’s it. There were no tears.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) August 28, 2018

Number None, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE65-Z8pOV0

sleeve, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link

and another thing: im not mad. please dont put in the newspaper that i got mad.

— wint (@dril) December 29, 2014

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GwdHe5nQSQ

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 23:43 (five years ago) link

for a guy who was only recently talking about starting up a site to evaluate the trustworthiness of reporters he really seems to have a v loose grip on how the burden of proof works huh

my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 09:34 (five years ago) link

He’s disrupting the paradigm in factual standards.

michaellambert, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 09:43 (five years ago) link

Amazing thread

well I guess I know what I’m doing tonight https://t.co/dxBDC0Zt2M

— erinspace (@erinscafe) August 28, 2018

Eliza D., Wednesday, 29 August 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link

some choice nuggets in there, my favourites being the phrase 'electric skates' and that this pointless vanity project will create precisely zero economic growth

my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link

my favorite part was that spacex employees comprised 15% or more of “the public”

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link

incredible

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link

3 people out of 20, by the looks of it

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link

alissa walker @ curbed is great on this (and all other la planning/transit stuff)

https://la.curbed.com/2018/8/16/17704428/elon-musk-dodger-stadium-tunnel-better-ideas

there is a gondala idea that is kind of wacky but approximately 10000x better than this tunnel thing.

i mean it's even worse than the 3 mile, one way, street car loop that will not have priority over road traffic at intersections and will thus go at approximately walking pace that they want to put downtown

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link

the gondala goes from downtown, and there is perhaps a more acute need to improve connections to the stadium from pretty much exactly the locations this tunnel would serve (among others). so a red line connection sounds good to me in principle! and you can argue that there is value in a proof of concept, and i don't think anyone is seriously suggesting the tunnel would ever make money.

but the city does not need to get involved. and it certainly shouldn't be providing financial support.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 18:02 (five years ago) link

lmao

@elonmusk should check his mail before tweeting. pic.twitter.com/3c9QWtdp25

— Lin Wood (@LLinWood) August 29, 2018

my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

Did that come addled dipshit just delete all of his tweets going back to the 25th or something

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link

Fyac

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link

No really fuck you, autocorrect

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link

Musk kind of seems to me like someone who rides high on the backs of the truly intellectually gifted minions

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link

so high

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link

"If I have seen further, it is because I have stood on th backs of giant reefers"

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 18:57 (five years ago) link

dipped in synthetic novelty psychoactives

also please delete my last 150 tweets thanks

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link

elon not doing great these days

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 23:40 (five years ago) link

there is a gondala idea that is kind of wacky but approximately 10000x better than this tunnel thing.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, August 29, 2018 2:00 PM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ever take the roosevelt island gondola, p cool

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 23:41 (five years ago) link

i support both the los angeles dodgers gondola and the Bosch season about the los angeles dodgers gondola murders

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 30 August 2018 00:00 (five years ago) link

Exclusive: Tesla violated U.S. labor laws when Elon Musk tweeted about employees losing their stock options if they unionized, the NLRB alleges in new complaint. https://t.co/tRqGkmhZ73

— Ryan Felton (@ryanfelton) August 29, 2018

sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 30 August 2018 00:25 (five years ago) link

the NLRB alleges

alleges? uh, that is straight up intimidation and coercion. how can it not be a violation of labor laws?

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 30 August 2018 00:57 (five years ago) link

https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2018/08/teslas-affordable-model-3-costs-a-bundle-to-insure-study-claims/

Last year, AAA said premiums on Tesla vehicles would likely go up 30 percent after reviewing data from the Highway Loss Data Institute. At the time, Tesla said the analysis was “severely flawed and is not reflective of reality.” But the auto club stated the HLDI’s findings matched its own research, as well as numerous other sources.

“Looking at a much broader set of countrywide data, we saw the same patterns observed in our own data, and that gave us the confidence to change rates,” said Anthony Ptasznik, chief actuary of AAA.

The contributing factors to the brand’s above-average insurance rate are twofold. For whatever reason, Tesla models are subject to an abnormally high number of incidents that result in insurance claims, but they’re also more expensive to fix. “Teslas get into a lot of crashes and are costly to repair afterward,” explained Russ Rader, spokesman for the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, which operates as the HLDI’s parent organization. “Consumers will pay for that when they go to insure one.”

For the Model 3, the result is tragically high premiums. A recent study conducted by Gabi Personal Insurance Agency Inc. and posted by Automotive News shows the EV’s average insurance cost across 150 ZIP codes is $2,814 per year. That’s $35 less than the cost of insuring a Porsche 911, using the same metrics.

“In the last month we had more and more people coming in with Model 3, and they were all complaining about high insurance costs,” said Gabi CEO Hanno Fichtner. “We found cheaper deals for them, but not as cheap as we thought they would be. We even had customers tell us they are returning their Model 3 due to the high running costs.”

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 30 August 2018 01:00 (five years ago) link

A friend of mine just picked up his Tesla, which he first ordered in the spring of 2016, this past Saturday. He's so proud.

Eliza D., Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link

Tesla only hope of survival is to be bought by General motors

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Thursday, 30 August 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link

a co worker just got one and sent out a FAQ to the entire department. uguhghghghghh

frogbs, Thursday, 30 August 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link

haaaaaaaa

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 August 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link

When are you getting your Tesla?

I am scheduled to pick it up on September 12th, 2 years and 5 months after putting $1,000 and two months after putting $2500 more down.

Are you excited?

Yes, very much so

Can I have ride?

Sure we can work that out.

Can I drive it?

Unlikely.

Am I afraid it is going to catch on fire?

Internal combustion engine cars are filled with flammable liquid, so no I am much less concerned it going to catch on fire then my Impala.

it goes on and on and on

frogbs, Thursday, 30 August 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link

does he mention the insurance payments? (see link above)

sleeve, Thursday, 30 August 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link

one funny thing is teslas are low quality cars

sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link

which didnt really matter when it was just a second car for status seeking rich ppl but now

sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:27 (five years ago) link

Aspie monty burns will just keep responding to reportage of his latest crime with inane shit like “nope. Try again, gremlin” and all his abject cultists will be like “epic clapback, sir” in their best smithers - this will keep happening and it’s funny but also a nightmare?

jeremy cmbyn (wins), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:53 (five years ago) link

I'll take this nightmare over the one in DC, this one's fucking hilarious and there's no nukes (yet)

Paleo Weltschmerz (El Tomboto), Thursday, 30 August 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link

yeah but if there are nukes then its the greatest story ever told

sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 30 August 2018 23:58 (five years ago) link

Holy hell, the lede on this new WSJ story... 🤯 https://t.co/vzsAZVR30b pic.twitter.com/KlIiNKoDG3

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) August 31, 2018

mookieproof, Friday, 31 August 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link

jfc wow

sprout god (lag∞n), Friday, 31 August 2018 15:27 (five years ago) link

you'd think the guy would be more protective of his hair plugs

my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 31 August 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link

still, 'my ponzi factory isn't maiming workers fast enough!' is a great look for a ceo participating in a tour of his facility

my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 31 August 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link

I was freaked out when the driver seat moved in reverse when I placed the car in reverse. That is a serious glitch. I will only be happy if I get a new Model 3 or a refund now. Please help @elonmusk No one should feel afraid of their car.

— LaLa (@McTweeterific) August 31, 2018

I have a 2010 Charger and apparently there was a minor problem with the airbag that caused some of them to inadvertently deploy. I think there was like 5 instances of this happening among 1.3 million affected cars, with no reported injuries. Dodge apparently tracked down everyone who owned one - somehow they found me, even though I bought it secondhand and moved twice since, I wound up getting a phone call offering to fix it for free, so I figured why not. This is not a cheap repair, by the way. I can only imagine how Tesla might handle a situation like this, given all the random faulty parts and the apparent shoddiness of the car's OS.

frogbs, Friday, 31 August 2018 18:45 (five years ago) link

lol I was drunk last night (shouldn’t have said “aspie” btw, sorry) today I agree this is a very funny nightmare

coetzee.cx (wins), Friday, 31 August 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

You realise that if he was ever to become involved in some sort of scandal and subsequent cover-up, newspapers could use the headline, "Elongate"

― Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, October 31, 2012 12:50 PM (five years ago)

did this ever happen? the first few posts itt are shot through with heart-piercing innocence

rob, Friday, 31 August 2018 19:10 (five years ago) link

So many ppl have made this exact joke over the years it’s kinda wild that now it’s here everyone just calls it “the elton musk toy sub pedo controversy” https://t.co/ek6HLJPpXa

— Tyto Pollens #FBP🌮 (@TytoPollens) July 16, 2018

coetzee.cx (wins), Friday, 31 August 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link

lol yes exactly

rob, Friday, 31 August 2018 19:32 (five years ago) link

Azealia Banks teed this one up perfectly too

rob, Friday, 31 August 2018 19:34 (five years ago) link

There’s some good stuff in that twitter thread mookieproof posted. Cars are incredibly complex and the fact that the auto industry can turn out millions that are (mostly) reliable and safe and without killing and maiming the people building them and doing so at a cost that stilll seems insanely cheap given the complexity. That musk wants to toss out 100 years of accumulated knowledge and best practice is a disappointing as it is unsurprising.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 31 August 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link

Elon Musk sent me an email last week. In it, he accused a British cave rescuer of being "a child rapist" who took a "12-year-old bride." He didn't provide any evidence of those claims.

He also called me a "fucking asshole."https://t.co/EIAjzEJXiY

— Ryan Mac (@RMac18) September 4, 2018

rarely in the course of human history has anyone been So Very Online

mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link

So Very Ondrugs

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link

1) quadrupling down on a bizarre and completely unfounded claim
2) "people are saying" things that no one is actually saying and are demonstrably untrue
3) "attached, see this letter of a person praising me"

hmmmmm

frogbs, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link

Elon's Trumpin'

got the scuba tube blowin' like a snork (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 23:16 (five years ago) link

speaking of underrated aerosmith b-sides

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 23:17 (five years ago) link

I think I might be rooting for his life to be absolutely ruined almost as much as Trump's at this point.

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 23:33 (five years ago) link

IN the comments on that tweet someone points out that in the UK the libel laws mean spreading someone elses libel makes that person liable also, is that true!?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 23:45 (five years ago) link

I hope Tesla survives his mismanagement and solves their production and design problems. Their firmware may be a disaster, but their drive train seems pretty decent. The more all-electric vehicles get into the market, the better.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 23:48 (five years ago) link

Whenever I see Musk he reminds me of a humanoid assembled from meat, or perhaps a shapeshifter holding human form through considerable effort.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 23:49 (five years ago) link

xp - ideally, he somehow loses his stake in Tesla and it goes on to be an enormous success without him as he has to watch by the wayside. Then he blows up in the first SpaceX launch with a human on board.

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 23:55 (five years ago) link

teslas life or death prob not gonna have much impact on the adoption of electric cars

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 00:00 (five years ago) link

I haven't been convinced yet that electric cars are a sufficient strategy for lowering emissions anyway

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link

I have a friend who swore by a weekend Tesla driving experience, to which I responded: who the fuck cares? Luxury cars will always be luxurious. Right now I get John DeLorean vibes from Musk. Let me know when he perfects longterm energy storage and I'll be impressed. As for electric cars, companies like Toyota and VW are going to run with his ideas and make them cheaper, recognizing that the only luxury people really care is massive mileage in a low-cost car. You know, like regular cars.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 00:06 (five years ago) link

Come on - Musk obviously has his faults, but I'd take him over pretty much any other celebrity CEO dickweed. If you think that other companies would be scrambling to build electric cars without Tesla, you are kidding yourselves. And the things that he's chosen to work on (electric cars, solar power, batteries, space travel) are so much more inspiring than the usual Valley gadgetry and eyeball-farming.

DJI, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 00:12 (five years ago) link

Oh, all agreed! I just expect others to take his ideas mainstream and leave him in the dust, charging things.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 00:18 (five years ago) link

lol @ VW mention in your previous post

you do know what that automaker is most recently famous for, right?

Paleo Weltschmerz (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 00:24 (five years ago) link

musk built his business on government vouchers for low/zero emission vehicles, california has mandated that a big % of vehicles sold there be zero emission and so forth, he didnt invent the electric car market there are much larger forces at work, and fuck being inspired by some jerkoff ceo especially one who is actively attempting to undermine public transportation just like every other car building industrialist in the history of the world

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 00:26 (five years ago) link

public transportation aka the thing that actually reduces pollution

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 00:27 (five years ago) link

+hes a huge asshole boss who got mad at one of his employees for attending the birth of their child and has broken laws trying to prevent unionization of his workforce, he sucks and is ridiculous and has some savior complex which manifests as building cars and rockets which is just plain dumb

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 00:32 (five years ago) link

otm. he's an extremely bad person.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 00:52 (five years ago) link

Let's try not to conflate Elon Musk and electric vehicles, ok? Musk is an asshole who abuses his workers and others. Electric vehicles may be marginal when compared to public transportation as a means to reduce overall carbon emissions, but they still provide measurable benefits compared to personal vehicles powered directly by fossil fuels.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 01:25 (five years ago) link

xpost I mentioned VW because, despite their diesel scandal, I thought they were actually still doing pretty well, but mostly they were one of the companies ( I thought) that gave a set date for producing an all-electric fleet (2030?). I think they're doing pretty well in Asia, too. Maybe I was thinking of Volvo? Anyway, pretend I said Volvo. Regardless, as all these much bigger car companies push toward electric, and start producing more, and cheaper, and more efficient entry level electric cars, the novelty of Tesla will fade. All along it's always been about battery and storage, that's where the revolution is, finding ways and places to store all that renewable solar and wind to use at will.

I thought this twitter thread making fun of his bust of a Tesla press conference pitching a hyper loop shuttle to Dodgers stadium was pretty good. Maybe I first saw it on this thread? Anyway, it's good stuff.

well I guess I know what I’m doing tonight https://t.co/dxBDC0Zt2M

— erinspace (@erinscafe) August 28, 2018

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 02:37 (five years ago) link

Come on - Musk obviously has his faults, but I'd take him over pretty much any other celebrity CEO dickweed.

That's like being the least-bad European dictator of the '30s.

louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 04:33 (five years ago) link

I know it's silly of me, but I just keep thinking, what if Musk is right about this guy? We'd never hear the end of it. He might even be right completely by coincidence. But I think the real reason it's nagging at me is because accusing someone of marrying a 12-year-old girl, and doing so based on absolutely no evidence, is so completely insane that my mind recoils at the idea.

JRN, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 05:17 (five years ago) link

IN the comments on that tweet someone points out that in the UK the libel laws mean spreading someone elses libel makes that person liable also, is that true!?

Essentially, yes. One famous case was the wife of the Yorkshire Ripper - one paper printed an allegation that she knew about the murders before he was arrested and a bunch of other papers followed up with reports spreading the claim. She successfully sued the first paper and collected something like twelve out-of-court settlements from the others iirc because they would also have lost had she taken them to court.

Contextualising it as ‘Elon Musk has made defamatory and baseless allegations against X’ is the way outlets would normally report without running as great a risk.

The jurisdiction he chooses to sue in will be interesting. It looks like it will be the US, which is arguably harder to win in but opens the way to larger punitive damages.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 05:58 (five years ago) link

But I think the real reason it's nagging at me is because accusing someone of marrying a 12-year-old girl, and doing so based on absolutely no evidence, is so completely insane that my mind recoils at the idea.

so

the diver is 63 now, and his wife reports her age as 40

Musk has it that the diver lived / travelled to elsewhere in Thailand for 30 to 40 years before moving to paedotown and marrying her, which he must have done 28 years ago, if she was 12

therefore he has been going to Thailand for sex trafficking since he was minus 5 years old


Musk should fire his lawyers and get Giuliani on the case imo

▫◌▫ (sic), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 07:23 (five years ago) link

My prediction: Bought by GM and left to simultaneously twist in the wind and rot on the vine like Saturn. All the IP is used to make electric Buicks for China.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 07:29 (five years ago) link

xpost: Musk described Unsworth as single, so presumably he's not saying that Unsworth married the woman he's with now (who he's not married to) when she was 12.

JRN, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 07:58 (five years ago) link

okay so he’s saying Musk stole someone else’s child bride, and is therefore a homewrecker as well as someone who’s been fucking 12-year-olds since before he was born

story checks out

▫◌▫ (sic), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 08:34 (five years ago) link

I have a friend who swore by a weekend Tesla driving experience, to which I responded: who the fuck cares? Luxury cars will always be luxurious. Right now I get John DeLorean vibes from Musk. Let me know when he perfects longterm energy storage and I'll be impressed. As for electric cars, companies like Toyota and VW are going to run with his ideas and make them cheaper, recognizing that the only luxury people really care is massive mileage in a low-cost car. You know, like regular cars.

This is pretty otm. I know two people with Teslas, they're undoubtedly very cool cars and its hard to drive them without getting the feeling that they're gamechangers. But I know the way the free market works - every legitimately great thing about these cars are going to get co-opted by more experienced and capable automakers in a few years, without the hefty price tag. My brother rented one for a weekend to drive to Ohio - we spent half an hour checking out all the neato features, like the big touch screen and the ability to park it with your phone and the way it detects your presence and shutters up when you're not near. Then like two hours into the trip a tire popped and it wound up costing a grand total of $1200 to get replaced. So, that's pretty much the Tesla experience.

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 11:35 (five years ago) link

$1200! jesus

crüt, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:57 (five years ago) link

No, Tesla

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 13:16 (five years ago) link

o god

Will be on @JoeRogan at 9:30pm Pacific on Thursday

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) September 5, 2018

my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 13:24 (five years ago) link

teslas are hella ugly look like an unfinished nissan, logo looks like it was drawn on a jr high desk

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 13:43 (five years ago) link

also "tesla"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 13:49 (five years ago) link

haha right

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 14:02 (five years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiK6lInU0AADnRf.jpg

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 14:03 (five years ago) link

let's do it and be legends

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 14:04 (five years ago) link

just a tiny black tshirt guy living his best life

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 14:04 (five years ago) link

I find maverick scientists like tesla + faraday quite fascinating, this numpt has just put batteries on wheels as far as I can see!

calzino, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 14:06 (five years ago) link

teslas are hella ugly look like an unfinished nissan, logo looks like it was drawn on a jr high desk

yea I never really notice one until I see the logo. which looks like an IUD. someone should really point that out to Elon.

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link

a funny thing about the tesla worship among this generation of billionaires is theyre all total edisons

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link

oh man. totally.

got the scuba tube blowin' like a snork (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 14:36 (five years ago) link

that's perfect actually.

got the scuba tube blowin' like a snork (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 14:36 (five years ago) link

lol, truth bomb

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 14:37 (five years ago) link

In the last couple of weeks I’ve seen two Teslas in the wild, which is more than I recall having seen before, and yeah, I was struck by how much they look like Nissans.

michaellambert, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 16:46 (five years ago) link

electric cars are great and mass adoption of them will absolutely drive down emissions and it's going to happen regardless of Tesla's ultimate fate in the market why because of regulations + laws in California (and other states/countries like China)

Elon Musk is a moron

these are not mutually exclusive positions

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 16:48 (five years ago) link

(xp) I don't pay enough attention to cars to tell one boring run-of-the-mill generic car from another tbh.

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 16:53 (five years ago) link

the only thing I took away from elon's email is that he knows a lot about which particular neighborhoods you go to for shady stuff

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:01 (five years ago) link

(sus)

coetzee.cx (wins), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

haa

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

you know what would absolutely drive down emissions (and make cities more livable places for humans rather than private property that gets stored in the street): mass adoption of mass transit

literally everything this guy does from when he wakes up to when he goes to bed harms that goal

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:08 (five years ago) link

it drives me nuts that in every article the media is not yelling about how all his tunneling/vacuum tube schemes are blatant ploys to disrupt in process public transpo plans

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:14 (five years ago) link

thankfully none of those schemes are going anywhere, at least as far as I know. his CA vacuum tube proposal was laughed out of town.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:19 (five years ago) link

word. to the extent LA makes any progress on transit and emissions over the next couple of decades it will be in spite of this walking hair plug.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:19 (five years ago) link

xp

his CA vacuum tube proposal was not laughed out of town. it starts with a proof of concept https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/05/elon-musk-talks-proof-of-concept-tunnel-parallel-to-the-405-in-los-angeles/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link

you know what would absolutely drive down emissions (and make cities more livable places for humans rather than private property that gets stored in the street): mass adoption of mass transit

I am all for mass transit, but it's not an either/or proposition. CA is both building a bullet train and investing in EV infrastructure, both are driven by state mandated GHG reductions goals.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link

*takes .25 hits of acid* what if a subway for cars?

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link

The company has buy-in from LA Metro, the city's public transportation provider. In a short, tweeted statement Thursday evening, LA Metro announced: "Metro leadership and CEO Phil Washington had a great meeting today with the talented staff of the @boring_company. They will coordinate with us as they move ahead with their proof of concept tunnel under Sepulveda Boulevard to ensure it doesn't interfere with our Sepulveda Transit Corridor rail project. We'll be partners moving forward."

jfc LA is so stupid. Doesn't help that they have utility that doesn't give a fuck about GHG emissions.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:22 (five years ago) link

it is an either/or proposition if the EV business, to the extent it exists right now, is intentionally (and successfully) doing political and practical harm to harming urban mass transit efforts in southern california.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link

typos, but you get my point (which, for the avoidance of doubt, is that this guy a bad)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link

cars are bad throw them all into outer space

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link

everything this guy does from when he wakes up to when he goes to bed harms that goal

Tesla's customers are among the least likely to embrace public mass transportation for their own use, whether Tesla existed or not.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link

LA metro is an exceedingly dysfunctional organization, but i'm not sure that has to do with LADWP

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link

LADWP is just the worst, they are deliberately dragging their feet on solar storage permits as well

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link

to be absolutely clear, the issue with musk vs. mass transit is not people buying teslas, whether or not they would have otherwise taken transit ---- it's elon musk launching cockamamie faux-transit boondoggles that drain resources, energy, and attention away from projects that would actually transport large numbers of people reliably.

got the scuba tube blowin' like a snork (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link

I am positive you're right about the cockamamie part. As to whether any of these boondoggles have actually drained any significant resources in their direction I am skeptical.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link

I was just complaining about LADWP in general, they are a terrible utility. idk what their relationship to LA Metro is, but other utilities (and public utilities, like SMUD) are way more aggressive with figuring out how to incentivize activities, including those in the transportation sector, to reduce emissions. how that ties in specifically with mass transit can vary, but I know there are programs, that hand out cash to transit agencies to convert their fleets to electric buses or install EV charging stations in their parking lots, for example.

xxp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link

As to whether any of these boondoggles have actually drained any significant resources in their direction I am skeptical.

the LA Metro-approved thing hasn't yet, but if they start handing money to Musk then that's a different story

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link

the drain is hard to measure in most cases. imo we'd have to count e.g. newspaper page space and city council meeting time devoted to considering his transit-sabotaging nonsense instead of getting down to brass tacks on schemes that would actually transport large numbers of people (and take large numbers of cars off the road) and that'd be hard to quantify. but we don't really have to delve that deep: chicago has selected his stupid company to build and operate a line to the airport! please see this article for a quick breakdown of the boondoggle.

got the scuba tube blowin' like a snork (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:36 (five years ago) link

It is vital that everyone keep saying cockamamie and boondoggle

coetzee.cx (wins), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link

American Things.

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link

the main problem i have with tesla is their negative influence on mass transit. it's not just the boondoggles, or god help us actual subsidies (yet). it's that SCAG is making regional planning decisions with significant input from a car manufacturer (one that makes cars that are incrementally, not qualitatively better for the atmosphere, and are no better for the urban environment).

also, i'm realistic about the likelihood of this happening in the US, but there are places in the world where people who can afford (and actually own!) teslas also ride the bus. yes, tesla owners are not the first people you'll see on the current US mass transit system if they made it more reliable. but the reasons why mass transit does effectively serve the wealthy (and politically influential) in this country are more political than practical.

LADWP doesn't have a relationship with LA metro that i know of.

btw i feel like there's an implicit thing here that LA is a dysfunctional basket case and the rest of the united states doesn't need to worry about it, or that it's not predictive of what could happen elsewhere. 1. the socal metro is 20m people and a lot of people are moving there. 2. it's not *that* badly run. like at least they build housing.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:40 (five years ago) link

arglebargle also acceptable

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:41 (five years ago) link

(one that makes cars that are incrementally, not qualitatively better for the atmosphere, and are no better for the urban environment).

see, whether or not they are better qualitatively for the atmosphere depends on where they're drawing their power from on the grid. An EV in Alameda, which is served 100% by renewable power, is definitely reducing emissions, because that's one less car burning gas. But an EV in LA, drawing power from LADWP's bizarre ass mix of out-of-state coal and natural gas and god knows what else, is actually probably *worse* than a gas-powered car.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link

you probably know this

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link

there is also the impact of pursuing policy that envisions a car-oriented urban environment, which A) facilitates the daily use of countless gas-powered vehicles that massively outnumber any electric cars on the road and B) is massively more carbon-intensive just on the sheer quantities of asphalt and concrete involved, even if the cars were all yanked from the road.

got the scuba tube blowin' like a snork (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link

xp

right, LADWP is bad news, and southern california is in many ways an ecological superfund.

which makes the fact that musk concentrates his efforts here even worse!!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link

So you guys are blaming Musk for bad public transportation and coal-burning power plants? You know he runs a solar company, right?

I should probably just keep my mouth shut. He is obviously a jerk with a messiah complex - I get it. But, to me, he still seems like he's trying to change the world in a good way. I don't agree with a lot of things he's done (union-busting, starting dumb-ass fights on twitter, being, by all accounts, a total jerk boss), but I'm still happy that he's making things like electric cars and solar roofing and order-of-magnitude-cheaper rocket launches happen.

DJI, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:01 (five years ago) link

Solar City itself was nothing more than a tax scam, maxing out customer roofs with extra panels they didn't need so the company could rake in that tax credit cash.

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:05 (five years ago) link

and the roofing is a scam too, total vaporware

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:05 (five years ago) link

the fact that he has spent some of his mostly accidental fortune on green tech is just him grabbing onto a trend and trying to capitalize ahead of the rest of the market incumbents. It has absolutely nothing to do with him giving a shit about other people or the world.

Paleo Weltschmerz (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link

yeah SolarCity is a disaster due to mismanagement/overextension (sound familiar?)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link

So you guys are blaming Musk for bad public transportation and coal-burning power plants?

i guess i'm blaming capitalism for creating incentives to make a shitty situation worse.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link

I predict there will be a zipline from the top of the Sears Tower to Midway before there is a $25 hyperloop from the city to O'Hare.

All this dummy does is talk about hypothetical tunnels and tunneling.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link

Tunnels not his strong point. And mini submarines.

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link

we are trapped inside Cars 2

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link

Lightning McQueen is on fire, and there's no driver at the wheel

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link

the pistachio ice cream was wasabi paste and we ate it up

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link

and the roofing is a scam too, total vaporware

― sleeve, Wednesday, September 5, 2018 2:05 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yuup does not actually exist, wed all be better off if the tech media only covered irl products not press releases

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link

e.g. just today. pretty generous of the press to call this a "production vehicle".

this is literally an empty body shell. there's not even a working prototype of this thing yet and people are sharing spec sheets https://t.co/o3NLCPPdR8

— Michael T Sweeney (@mtsw) September 5, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link

lmfao

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 19:10 (five years ago) link

we are trapped inside Cars 2

― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, September 5, 2018 11:31 AM (forty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lightning McQueen is on fire, and there's no driver at the wheel

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, September 5, 2018 11:34 AM (thirty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

really great 1-2 here

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link

windshield sunglasses area: 10,000 sq. inches

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link

my 6 year old cousin has this cool toy where you launch cars through a loop-de-loop and into a garage and all the cars look exactly like that

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 19:21 (five years ago) link

hey man, as long as it's a loop.

how's life, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 19:32 (five years ago) link

relatedly

Pleased my headline/image combo got through pic.twitter.com/T654peazLk

— christhebarker (@christhebarker) September 4, 2018

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 19:34 (five years ago) link

epic burn

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link

scream that headline while holding a thin slice of whole foods deli ham up to the store lights imo

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link

it drives me nuts that in every article the media is not yelling about how all his tunneling/vacuum tube schemes are blatant ploys to disrupt in process public transpo plans

― sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, September 5, 2018 1:14 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

100%

Elon Musk's snake oil being sold so well is an indictment of tech journalism's inability to go beyond 'woah gadgets' and engage with the real world. Not that the real world did better, I remember he was on the Late Show with Colbert's and he talked about nuking the poles of Mars to make it habitable and people were like 'woooh genius' and no one dared asked if it made any sense.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 20:30 (five years ago) link

'the boring company' is a good name, gotta give him that

mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link

I don’t gotta do shit!

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 20:55 (five years ago) link

Even that's not original, lots of companies involved in boring are called some variation on Boring Company. My town used to have the Paisley Boring & Grinding Co - which used to amuse us greatly.

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 21:00 (five years ago) link

my fave company ever was British Bacon Supplies. They used to have a very old fashioned, generic blue letters on white ad hoarding at the football ground for over a decade. Lots of people used to wonder if they actually existed and would stare at it and mediate on carcinogenic processed meat during dull L1 matches. I nearly shit a kilogram of streaky bacon when I started at a new electrical contractors, and their yard was right next to the by now massively legendary British Bacon Supplies building.

calzino, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link

Crosspost to Real England

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 21:30 (five years ago) link

it probably actually belongs on a neo-fascist thread!

calzino, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/6n6Z4VG.jpg

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 21:34 (five years ago) link

fuck

crüt, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link

as a child, I loved bacon. As an adult, my stance is that bacon is kind of bad.

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link

tastes pretty good, smells amazing cooking IMHO

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link

you know what's even better than bacon, though

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 22:30 (five years ago) link

kfc double downing on your libel

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 22:36 (five years ago) link

(xp) Yes, black pudding.

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link

Software update issue with the Model S today. Car is immobile at the moment.

Tesla tech support and roadside assistance have been very helpful - we’re hoping to avoid the tow by forcing a new update to the car. pic.twitter.com/DSverfOkGE

— Ryan Negri (@RyanNegri) September 5, 2018

sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 6 September 2018 03:26 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va0RzNKmbLk

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 6 September 2018 03:30 (five years ago) link

tesla bringing whole new meanings to the shopworn phrase "car crash"

got the scuba tube blowin' like a snork (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 6 September 2018 03:32 (five years ago) link

ayy lol

sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 6 September 2018 03:34 (five years ago) link

he's doing a radio interview right now where he claims "I didn't see any other ideas for improving the traffic [in LA]."

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 7 September 2018 04:50 (five years ago) link

Like these mysterious things called trains, trams and light rail?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 7 September 2018 05:06 (five years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/StiHKiuMtG

— Watergate Speedrun - 0.5X A Presses (Commentated) (@surfbordt) September 7, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 7 September 2018 05:31 (five years ago) link

Live now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycPr5-27vSI

flappy bird, Friday, 7 September 2018 06:01 (five years ago) link

Lmao at every second of this

Post Alone (latebloomer), Friday, 7 September 2018 08:36 (five years ago) link

#420 #blazeit #muskonskunk

Elon Musk’s campaign to persuade investors he is out of his mind continued late Thursday night when he took a hit off a joint during a live podcast https://t.co/IxdUYK4HGn

— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) September 7, 2018

bitch that’s the tubby custard machine (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 7 September 2018 12:51 (five years ago) link

Pre-market shares down 5%.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 7 September 2018 12:58 (five years ago) link

moaning that you work so hard you never see your kids then hanging out with joe rogan for 3 hours

devvvine, Friday, 7 September 2018 13:00 (five years ago) link

god can you imagine spending time with five little elon musks? i'd be choosing to get high af with joe rogan too, it's maybe the best decision musk has made in months

bitch that’s the tubby custard machine (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 7 September 2018 13:10 (five years ago) link

oh god, there's such a specific awkwardness to this

devvvine, Friday, 7 September 2018 13:31 (five years ago) link

not enough abt elon's impressively evil dad in this thread

mark s, Friday, 7 September 2018 13:32 (five years ago) link

oh i suppose you think he's evil just because he was an apartheid-era south african property magnate who dabbled in the diamond industry and, at 72, fathered a child with his 30-year-old stepdaughter, do you

bitch that’s the tubby custard machine (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 7 September 2018 13:38 (five years ago) link

who's the real sick man in this so called society

devvvine, Friday, 7 September 2018 13:45 (five years ago) link

BREAKING: *TESLA SHARES EXTEND LOSSES TO FALL 10%; BIGGEST LOSS IN 2 YEARS https://t.co/lTUIJkAgWZ

— Joe Weisenthal (@TheStalwart) September 7, 2018

https://i.imgur.com/4xMgwkD.png

sprout god (lag∞n), Friday, 7 September 2018 13:48 (five years ago) link

blessed thread

works with anything pic.twitter.com/IYNk7uQS5z

— meth lab for cutie (@AliceAvizandum) September 7, 2018

bitch that’s the tubby custard machine (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 7 September 2018 13:50 (five years ago) link

I've got a good friend who isn't allowed to invest in Tesla who nonetheless was going on and on about visionary this and steve jobs and amazon that and tesla's going to be a 25000 stock and the future and whatever. It all made me wish even more for this whole endeavor to fail just for me to be able to tease him for drinking the electric kool aid.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 September 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link

lmfao u have to inhale it genius

Musk subsequently said that he rarely smokes weed and it doesn’t affect him much. It is certainly the case that he sounded just as high before he smoked as he does now. pic.twitter.com/fWEoYu0OCZ

— Julia Carrie Wong (@juliacarriew) September 7, 2018

sprout god (lag∞n), Friday, 7 September 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link

wait was he wearing an occupy shirt lmao

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 September 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link

“Occupy Mars”

flappy bird, Friday, 7 September 2018 14:40 (five years ago) link

He can have it.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 September 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link

he can take joe rogan while he's at it

bitch that’s the tubby custard machine (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 7 September 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link

if this culminates in Elon Musk dying alone on Mars it will all be worth it

crüt, Friday, 7 September 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link

i'll say one thing for this guy, his hair plugs look great

bitch that’s the tubby custard machine (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 7 September 2018 14:48 (five years ago) link

Impressive that, while this sort of stunt would make many plutocrats seem more likable, it does nothing for Musk.

mick signals, Friday, 7 September 2018 14:53 (five years ago) link

Elon Musk's new revolutionary, radical hyper loop hair plug technology.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 September 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link

it's gonna take more than puffing on granny's glaucoma medicine to turn this ship around

bitch that’s the tubby custard machine (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 7 September 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link

http://imgur.com/tTlrXljl.png

mick signals, Friday, 7 September 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmfGx94WsAUqgBg.jpg

guys what if the hyperloop is just

like

one giant bong

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmfGx-AW4AIN4xK.jpg

bitch that’s the tubby custard machine (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 7 September 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link

Elsewhere, Tesla’s chief accounting officer is quitting after a month on the job, which is fine, it’s fine, don’t worry about it, it’s totally normal and fine:

Dave stated: “Since I joined Tesla on August 6th, the level of public attention placed on the company, as well as the pace within the company, have exceeded my expectations. As a result, this caused me to reconsider my future. I want to be clear that I believe strongly in Tesla, its mission, and its future prospects, and I have no disagreements with Tesla’s leadership or its financial reporting.”

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 7 September 2018 15:17 (five years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmgCtqlWwAAibeT.jpg:small

mookieproof, Friday, 7 September 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link

He looks like some disgruntled shock jock.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 September 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link

He's right about the Guardian at least.

Scottish Country Tweerking (Tom D.), Friday, 7 September 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link

that pic of him toking is gonna be a very good meme

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

agreed, curious as to what karl could do with it (this isn't a formal request karl)

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:23 (five years ago) link

oh, i've already been working on it

i'm doing some really lazy though

Karl Malone, Friday, 7 September 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link

perhaps there is some reason he WANTS the stock to tank

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link

A brewster's bilions situation

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link

Maybe so that he can build a hyper loop tunnel to rescue it?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 September 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link

he's not gonna be able to get it to 420 but 69 is still in play

frogbs, Friday, 7 September 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link

looooooool

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 7 September 2018 19:02 (five years ago) link

so is $4.20

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 7 September 2018 19:06 (five years ago) link

didnt he want to buy the company and make it private? I am uneducated on such things but it seems like if you want to buy somethign its good to make the price be low some how

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Friday, 7 September 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link

there maybe be some legalities there

sprout god (lag∞n), Friday, 7 September 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link

He's going to hyper loop out of there so fast the feds will never catch him. Though it might raise some red flags when he suggests a tunnel from Palo Alto to Fiji.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 September 2018 19:31 (five years ago) link

Apple buys Elon and saves him

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Friday, 7 September 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link

Tesla Stan’s watched a completely diffferent interview to everyone else.

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/09/07/elon-on-joe-rogan-a-tesla-is-not-really-a-car-its-actually-a-thing-to-maximize-enjoyment/

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 7 September 2018 20:53 (five years ago) link

Yeah I caught a bit of the live broadcast last night when he was talking about that, “maximizing enjoyment.” He says there’s an Easter egg in the Teslas that makes them play music and “dance.” Fucking moronic, just make a good car christ.

flappy bird, Friday, 7 September 2018 21:02 (five years ago) link

I mean he's kind of got a point, people aren't buying Teslas because they wanna get to point A to point B

frogbs, Friday, 7 September 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link

Maybe not now, but he’s talking about a future where most ppl drive electric cars (and preferably Teslas). He went into the whole tunnel idea and everything. He realizes that they won’t be a super luxury item forever.

flappy bird, Friday, 7 September 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link

By the way, dude has the most fucked up robotic Wiseauian laugh. “HAH-HAH-HAH.” that’s when I tuned out

flappy bird, Friday, 7 September 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link

I missed the blunt smoking last night. Why is that the big thing the media is running with? Marijuana is legal in California.

flappy bird, Friday, 7 September 2018 21:19 (five years ago) link

It may be legal, but turning up to work high is probably not the best idea for he CEO of a multi-billion dollar company whose judgement and leadership style is already severely questionable.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 7 September 2018 21:30 (five years ago) link

yeah it's not exactly gonna reassure the stockholders who have had a rough week already

sleeve, Friday, 7 September 2018 21:34 (five years ago) link

shareholders? IDGAF

sleeve, Friday, 7 September 2018 21:34 (five years ago) link

how much has the US government given this guy and what have we gotten in return exactly

frogbs, Friday, 7 September 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link

$4.9 billion as of 2015, but hey we've had some good laughs

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html

sleeve, Friday, 7 September 2018 22:01 (five years ago) link

he said weed didnt affect him then he didnt inhale lmfbo he doesnt know how to smoke thats some shit a 12 y/o wld do

sprout god (lag∞n), Friday, 7 September 2018 22:09 (five years ago) link

instead of a partial vacuum underground, sounds like he needs a partial vacuum in HIS LUNGS... to get high

brownie, Friday, 7 September 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link

otm

sprout god (lag∞n), Friday, 7 September 2018 22:28 (five years ago) link

but don't all these guys brag about microdosing LSD at work? and then go to Burning Man and macrodose??

flappy bird, Friday, 7 September 2018 22:38 (five years ago) link

he has to have security clearance in order for spacex to maintain its relationship with the USAF etc.

New – Statement from the @usairforce to @CNBC on the branch looking into Elon Musk's pot smoking:

"We will need time to determine the facts and the appropriate process to handle the situation." https://t.co/57cjiE6tJo

— Michael Sheetz (@thesheetztweetz) September 7, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 7 September 2018 23:03 (five years ago) link

yesterday was such a failure that i ended up working on a dumb morph for an hour before realizing there was video footage of him smoking it, and i didn't have to recreate what it would have looked like based upon two still images posted on a thread. so here is an alternative look at what that scene might have looked like in a world that isn't our own

https://i.imgur.com/veEwo1i.gif

Karl Malone, Saturday, 8 September 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link

lol that's so much better and deserves to become the standard meme underlay for use of this incident imho

got the scuba tube blowin' like a snork (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 8 September 2018 16:41 (five years ago) link

you mighty morphing musk imager

got the scuba tube blowin' like a snork (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 8 September 2018 16:42 (five years ago) link

actually, wait a second, i legit fixed it. hold on

Karl Malone, Saturday, 8 September 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link

That thing his thumb done is incredible! Bravo!

Frederik B, Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link

thanks!

adding a slight zoom helps things a bit, i think

https://i.imgur.com/GaOhhwm.gif

then there's this smiling version which is kind of idiotic but fun

https://i.imgur.com/ZUXBsCS.gif

Karl Malone, Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:14 (five years ago) link

the first one with the zoom is incredible

the late great, Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:15 (five years ago) link

yes, thank you for your service

sleeve, Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:16 (five years ago) link

yeah, i think that's my fave as well. it really captures his spirit

Karl Malone, Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:17 (five years ago) link

a new high for KM

got the scuba tube blowin' like a snork (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link

thread delivers

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link

In ultra progressive California you can smoke weed but there’s no indoor smoking ban in workplaces?

the article don, Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link

karl u are a hero

bitch that’s the tubby custard machine (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 8 September 2018 20:27 (five years ago) link

Yeah! All three of these are incredible.

Frederik B, Sunday, 9 September 2018 01:07 (five years ago) link

I'm high AF right now and just stumbled on those morphs above and jesus christ

akm, Sunday, 9 September 2018 02:04 (five years ago) link

lol
You all should just download a morphing program. They’re easy to use. You’ll be morphing all night!

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 September 2018 02:35 (five years ago) link

it's like, his smile is a puff of smoke that he pulllllls out of his face, taffy-like

got the scuba tube blowin' like a snork (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 9 September 2018 03:20 (five years ago) link

The interview itself is really good! Rogan is a dope but EM goes into trance mode when asked about the future

calstars, Sunday, 9 September 2018 03:40 (five years ago) link

Dudes just listen to the Audio. The visual is frankly unnecessary

calstars, Sunday, 9 September 2018 03:41 (five years ago) link

is A.I. actually a serious threat or does he just love the drama?

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 9 September 2018 03:52 (five years ago) link

i'd literally rather die than use his neuralink software and merge my brain with a machine. not that i think his software will actually work. the interview annoyed me but maybe i just hate the future.

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 9 September 2018 03:55 (five years ago) link

xpost
all of these people seem to think so, but every single of them are dumb and wrong, according to most people i talk to

https://futureoflife.org/ai-open-letter/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Letter_on_Artificial_Intelligence

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 September 2018 03:56 (five years ago) link

*puffs*

calstars, Sunday, 9 September 2018 04:20 (five years ago) link

every single of them, you heard it here

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 September 2018 04:21 (five years ago) link

yeah I mean I'm not a scientist but what he said about tunnels was convincing.

A+ work Karl let's make that shit go viral

flappy bird, Sunday, 9 September 2018 04:58 (five years ago) link

i posted it on imgur and it received a negative score, i posted it on reddit and 40% of the thread downvoted it. i have learned enough to know that the rest of the internet is not ilx, but i have not learned enough to stop trying

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 September 2018 05:06 (five years ago) link

twitter

flappy bird, Sunday, 9 September 2018 05:43 (five years ago) link

Wow I really hope this dingus loses his security clearance

faculty w1fe (silby), Sunday, 9 September 2018 05:55 (five years ago) link

bit harsh on karl just for getting downvotes tbh

bitch that’s the tubby custard machine (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 9 September 2018 07:09 (five years ago) link

Those images have been giving me life in the last couple of days. Best meme since Croatian fascist takes cyanide at his trial. We'll done Elon (and KM!)

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 11:43 (five years ago) link

HACKERS CAN STEAL A TESLA MODEL S IN SECONDS BY CLONING ITS KEY FOB https://www.wired.com/story/hackers-steal-tesla-model-s-seconds-key-fob

sprout god (lag∞n), Monday, 10 September 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

Telsa announces the creation in real life of KITT

(Knight Industries Two Thousand)

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Monday, 10 September 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link

is he fired yet

faculty w1fe (silby), Monday, 10 September 2018 19:06 (five years ago) link

ive fired him effective immediately

sprout god (lag∞n), Monday, 10 September 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link

He will fire himself but after a long discussion with himself, come crawling back to himself and beg for his job back

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Monday, 10 September 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link

Yes, I wonder if he will go on a killing spree. Yes, I track his flights. Yes, I have spoken to some of his overnight friends. Yes, he was out of control at Burning Man. Yes, you should ask @AZEALIABANKSNYC for a quote. Buy some soap first though.

— Enty (@entylawyer) September 10, 2018

sprout god (lag∞n), Monday, 10 September 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link

enty admitted to fabricating his stories, I'd believe Elon over him

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 10 September 2018 20:09 (five years ago) link

well, s/admitted/was proven to have, but nevertheless

https://nypost.com/2012/04/01/how-crazy-days-and-nights-fooled-hollywood/

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 10 September 2018 20:10 (five years ago) link

he had some good stories too tho before ~the msm~

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

ELon once ate with Max Tegmark, that crazy Swede! that must have been one funky night

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link

a have a friend that listened to the whole interview and is now bemoaning that the "so-called news" is only talking about him smoking a blunt and not all his musings on robotics and AI and giant tunnels and all the other things he is constantly and publicly talking about

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link

he's not exactly a modern day tesla more like the Bill Gates of electric cars

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link

he's clive sinclair without the common decency to even produce a zx spectrum

bitch that’s the tubby custard machine (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link

and clive sinlcair was man enough to embrace his baldness

bitch that’s the tubby custard machine (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link

shakey is there a thread where we talk about this?

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2018/8/31/17799094/california-100-percent-clean-energy-target-brown-de-leon

(also i want de leon to run for LA mayor when he loses to feinstein)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link

The Energy Thread

probably best one

sleeve, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link

sometimes I wonder if the electricity used to power electric cars is dirty anyway what is the clean ness there

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link

a have a friend that listened to the whole interview and is now bemoaning that the "so-called news" is only talking about him smoking a blunt and not all his musings on robotics and AI and giant tunnels and all the other things he is constantly and publicly talking about

― frogbs, Tuesday, September 11, 2018 2:08 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The first 100+ comments on the YouTube video itself are basically this. He's not a total idiot, but fuck he's got so many red flags and a clear propensity for childish distractions. What he said about AI and robotics was nothing new.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 23:03 (five years ago) link

I don't understand how people accept that the technology necessary to simulate their human experience many times over is a given or that it would only not happen if the world abruptly ended in the near future.

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 23:17 (five years ago) link

step 1 of his simulation theory fun -- imagine any rate of improvement in computing power, gaming, etc., already seems so naive. why would you assume this shit won't roll off? but maybe I'm missing something.

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 23:23 (five years ago) link

and he describes the neuralink stuff as solving a bandwidth issue at the link between your mind's queries and the internet. but it seems like the speed at which my dumb brain can generate these queries will remain as a serious bottleneck? neuralink will disrupt mavis beacon typing instruction software!

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 23:25 (five years ago) link

he's not exactly a modern day tesla more like the Bill Gates of electric cars

― Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Tuesday, September 11, 2018 2:12 PM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

bill gates was a business genius, musk seems like more of a startup guy + good at media

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 23:26 (five years ago) link

gates obvs more technical than musk too

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 23:26 (five years ago) link

'gates' also a more technical term than 'musk'

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 23:28 (five years ago) link

otm

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 23:32 (five years ago) link

BREAKING: Tesla's VP of Worldwide Finance, Justin McAnear, is leaving the company https://t.co/TGNPdho6Ha pic.twitter.com/jXw7oyHUYb

— TicToc by Bloomberg (@tictoc) September 12, 2018


Tesla's biggest institutional investor says Elon Musk needs psychological helphttps://t.co/lMV9gmgjhL

— Adam Pasick (@Adampasick) September 12, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

things are going great!!!!

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link

I would have Musk pegged as a Timbuk 3 fan, their hit does seem to represent his outlook on the world

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 22:44 (five years ago) link

https://i.redd.it/hjo6ykhn0tl11.jpg

does this mean what I think it does

frogbs, Thursday, 13 September 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link

Wait, so Teslas are usually being ... throttled?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 September 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link

ha, exactly

sleeve, Thursday, 13 September 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link

its like that thing they do with video games now where all the content is on the disc but you have to pay an extra $15 to unlock some of it

frogbs, Thursday, 13 September 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link

'throttling' applies to changing or limiting a rate and not to changing or limiting capacity

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 September 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link

tesla: the ea of car manufacturers

I don't know. there could be warrantied maintenance implications tied to the amount you're allowed to discharge the battery.

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 September 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link

xp fitting tbh. he said in the Rogan interview that they've just installed an Atari emulator in the latest Tesla. god this guy is so LAME

flappy bird, Thursday, 13 September 2018 18:45 (five years ago) link

xp that's a good point, they could just be suspending the warranty for charge/discharge greater than the maximum in the specs

sleeve, Thursday, 13 September 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link

"warranty penalty", sorry

sleeve, Thursday, 13 September 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link

another thing: 'throttling' was really only an issue in that it would favor large internet businesses over the smaller guys with less money. There's always been throttling of internet speeds for the customer based on what that customer would pay.

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 September 2018 19:00 (five years ago) link

GET OFF THE GANJA ELON!!YOU WRECKIN YOR MIND

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Thursday, 13 September 2018 19:06 (five years ago) link

just gonna FP your garbage posts from now on, knock it off

sleeve, Thursday, 13 September 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link

what is FP

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Thursday, 13 September 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link

and I also don't see a problem with charging someone to unlock content that's already on the disc. The game company had to invest some resources to make the non-essential content, and they need to figure out a way to make money on that investment. Otherwise there'd just be less content. You can argue that greed makes them lock more content than they should, but the very idea of not having access to all of the content on a blu-ray you purchased isn't so outrageous. Obviously, it'd be outrageous if you had to buy the additional content to make your original base purchase worthwhile at all. But usually the consumer outrage is based on just wanting everything.

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 September 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link

Oh "flag post" - jeez osrry dude! didn't realize you were taking offinese here :(

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Thursday, 13 September 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link

'throttling' applies to changing or limiting a rate and not to changing or limiting capacity

― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, September 13, 2018 2:41 PM (fifty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes but "free supercharging" -- does this also mean they throttle the speed of electricity transfer? what is this insane world

vote no on ilxit (Will M.), Thursday, 13 September 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link

supercharging is just what happens when you charge at one of those tesla-specific charging stations instead of via a normal outlet. It is faster, but it's faster because the charging hardware is different.

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 September 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link

so I think they're just saying you get free electricity at their charging stations, which are always faster charging than an outlet

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 September 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link

so it's like that other kind of dlc where you pay $5 for the cheat codes

vote no on ilxit (Will M.), Thursday, 13 September 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link

no, it's not. it's a real hardware difference.

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 September 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link

but you pay for it, right? and it lets you access a better power-up than you would have if you did not pay?

vote no on ilxit (Will M.), Thursday, 13 September 2018 20:17 (five years ago) link

it's not a power up. the car needs electrical energy to run. you need to pull that energy out of the grid somehow. and there are real limitations to what you can conceivably do at most homes. Tesla has "supercharging" stations in public places where you can pay to charge with the larger, more expensive hardware that is required without needing to buy, permit, and install your own.

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 September 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link

What about the additional battery capacity component?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 September 2018 20:27 (five years ago) link

I don't know. there could be warrantied maintenance implications tied to the amount you're allowed to discharge the battery.

― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, September 13, 2018 11:44 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

xp that's a good point, they could just be suspending the warranty for charge/discharge greater than the maximum in the specs

― sleeve, Thursday, September 13, 2018 11:50 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"warranty penalty", sorry

― sleeve, Thursday, September 13, 2018 11:50 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't know for sure, but it isn't a given that it's based entirely in arbitrary greed.

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 September 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link

they might have qual and/or failure analysis data that suggests allowing X deeper discharge will cost them Y in warranty repairs. So they could just be covering the calculated cost of this. ant this is also probably about marketing on some level. some other big player could have similar batteries, but claim better engineering based on that one spec (while taking the higher failure rate hit). By having a higher the option at a higher cost, they can win or compete in spec battles while also discouraging widespread adoption of something that will cause more failures and ultimately be a bit more wasteful.

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 September 2018 20:35 (five years ago) link

What about the additional battery capacity component?

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 September 2018 6:27 AM (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Could mean one or other if these

Tesla’s come in a variety of different battery capacity options, think fuel tank sizes. The actual battery’s (cells) aren’t that expensive so somewhere along the way they just started shipping out cars with the full pack, because standardised manufacturing it cheaper, but the customer only gets what they pay for. Tesla can Flick a switch and can upgrade your car.

Alternatively they are extending the depth of discharge. Typically if you want a long lived lithium ion battery you want to use the middle of the charging range, typically not using he top 5% and bottom 10-20%. It’s not that bad to go out of that range a few times so an easy win for tesla to enable this. A few cars will end up not being able to start next day and it may cost a battery pack if a car sits and the bottom of the state of charge range.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 13 September 2018 20:55 (five years ago) link

it's not a power up. the car needs electrical energy to run. you need to pull that energy out of the grid somehow. and there are real limitations to what you can conceivably do at most homes. Tesla has "supercharging" stations in public places where you can pay to charge with the larger, more expensive hardware that is required without needing to buy, permit, and install your own.

― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, September 13, 2018 4:26 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I... I'm comparing it to video game cheat codes. I know how real life works.

vote no on ilxit (Will M.), Thursday, 13 September 2018 20:58 (five years ago) link

you compared two things, I think, to justify reaching a similar conclusion about the two things. I was pointing how the comparison wasn't good, and you shouldn't reach the same conclusion.

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 September 2018 21:04 (five years ago) link

i.e. supercharging, unlike a benefit from a game code, is not built into the already owned hardware. it requires additional hardware.

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 September 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link

goddamn my guy the only conclusion i was trying to reach was a good goof based on a good goof upthread

plus if it were a video game the superchargers would be built into the game's code obviously and access would only be available via dlc unlock but that's beside the point

the point is, tesla is for cardorks with money and i have neither means nor a drivers license so i will take every opportunity to clown this company named after a famous misogynist mustache boy genius

vote no on ilxit (Will M.), Thursday, 13 September 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link

The difference in different Tesla levels is the software that unlocks performance - they don't have different motors or anything. If you buy the 70 you get X performance vs the 85 or the whatever number comes next.
It's like all Dodges coming with the Hellcat motor and they just restrict it to 4 cylinders all the time if you buy the base level.

Owners know that going in, though, TBF.

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 13 September 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link

Even the battery performance is DLC:
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-cuts-price-model-s-60-75-kwh-battery-upgrade-2000/

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 13 September 2018 21:23 (five years ago) link

feels like we're talking about two separate things here

the supercharging thing, I think the idea is that you have to pay some amount of $$$ to supercharge the car at one of those little Tesla charging stations. turning that from a paid to a free service is no big deal since I assume Tesla fronts the cost of that power

the battery thing is something else, what I'm gathering here is that all the models have the 75 kWH battery, but if you didn't get the "upgrade" package then only 60 kWH of this is "unlocked", and the rest can be activated at a whim from Tesla HQ

like Ed said there may be some reasoning behind this. correct me if I'm wrong but isn't a car with a "13 gallon tank" actually more like 13.5 for this very reason? that said it still feels ultra shady and I'm not exactly giving these guys the benefit of the doubt right now

frogbs, Thursday, 13 September 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link

Next step: a micro-transaction every time you use your blinkers (the bougie pigs who drive Teslas won't have to worry about this)

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 13 September 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link

we are talking about two separate things here but they're both included in that Tesla message - they're temporarily unlocking the battery upgrade and giving you free 'gas'

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 13 September 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link

actually I guess that is bogus b/c if they're trying to "protect" the battery on the 60 kWH models then they aren't doing it on the 75 kWH ones

given the quality of their software I wonder how long until some kid figures out how to root the thing and just unlock the max performance/battery mode. for example with the Nintendo Wii someone figured out real quickly how to get all the Virtual Console games for free and I knew people who would charge $20 to do it for you

frogbs, Thursday, 13 September 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link

The supercharging limit is mentioned in the firmware revelations twitter thread linked above that maybe only I read.

pic.twitter.com/jCw9KkynSo

— ato̧̕m̀͡i̴̷̛c̨͝t͝҉͡h̷҉u̵̶m͜͞b͏͝s̀́ (@atomicthumbs) August 24, 2018

mick signals, Thursday, 13 September 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link

goddamn my guy the only conclusion i was trying to reach was a good goof based on a good goof upthread

plus if it were a video game the superchargers would be built into the game's code obviously and access would only be available via dlc unlock but that's beside the point

the point is, tesla is for cardorks with money and i have neither means nor a drivers license so i will take every opportunity to clown this company named after a famous misogynist mustache boy genius

― vote no on ilxit (Will M.), Thursday, September 13, 2018 2:22 PM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this thread already has some great stuff in it. the 'good goofs' just make the thread feel too decadent overall. can a mod please lock the 'good goofs' behind a paywall? noticed some 'good goofs' over on the US politics thread as well, if you're not too busy.

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 September 2018 21:45 (five years ago) link

eh, I am being a dick. and I get why the politics threads are the way they are. I just wonder if we can't clown elon more coherently. maybe focus on the way he hurts the environment instead of stoking misguided consumer outrage that only harms rich tesla owners, anyway. too much ilx today. bye \Morbs

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 September 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link

Do not tell me to focus. I will never focus. ilxor dot com. i live for this

vote no on ilxit (Will M.), Thursday, 13 September 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link

Semper Post, Will M!

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 13 September 2018 23:11 (five years ago) link

Who he?

― Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, November 1, 2012 3:40 AM

Simpler times...

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 13 September 2018 23:13 (five years ago) link

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/8bbfo2/all_it_takes_to_total_a_100000_car_is_a_little/

jfc

so, long story short, a Tesla gets into a minor fender bender, owner finds out that it's not just structural damage but part of the chassis made by aluminum. Tesla does not sell a replacement part, meaning the car is effectively totaled. just lol @ this dumb company

frogbs, Monday, 17 September 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link

NEW: A British diver who was part of the Thailand cave rescue is officially suing Elon Musk for calling him a pedophile https://t.co/tMEcoCPdWO

— BuzzFeed News (@BuzzFeedNews) September 17, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 17 September 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link

This is the final paragraph in the section titled: "Musk's False and Defamatory Accusations" pic.twitter.com/seTVWG4C8i

— kadhim (^ー^)ノ (@kadhimshubber) September 17, 2018

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 17 September 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link

Who he?

― Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, November 1, 2012 3:40 AM

Simpler times...

― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 13 September 2018 23:13 (four days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Indeed, kinda weird to see that every time I open this thread.

Zach Same (Tom D.), Monday, 17 September 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link

"i fucking hope he sues me"

"notice he hasnt sued me yet"

gets sued

sprout god (lag∞n), Monday, 17 September 2018 19:19 (five years ago) link

lol yes

sprout god (lag∞n), Monday, 17 September 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link

So he's sueing him for £57,000?!?!? WTF?

Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 00:16 (five years ago) link

is there some kind of SpaceX press conference going on? part of my FB feed is drooling all over the guy again :(

sleeve, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 01:44 (five years ago) link

a plane full of billionaires exploding will truly be one of the greatest stories ever told

SpaceX says Japanese billionaire Yusaku Maezawa will be first private passenger on a solo rocket trip around the moon. https://t.co/hI4IPMXGeI

— The Associated Press (@AP) September 18, 2018

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 01:53 (five years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/gylpqoC.png

crüt, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 02:18 (five years ago) link

pedo guy shouldda stupped up. £57,000?!?!?

Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 02:20 (five years ago) link

~musk reads

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 02:22 (five years ago) link

is this one of those situations where you sue for costs and the judge adds punitive damages?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 03:23 (five years ago) link

muskreads.jpg

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 03:30 (five years ago) link

Hate to say The Simpsons did it first, but this whole thing makes me think of
"The letter in Krusty's pocket states that a rocket (codenamed Exodus) is being populated with humanity's "best and brightest", and will be launched in order to preserve human civilization on Mars."

StanM, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 08:05 (five years ago) link

(the rocket to the moon thing, obv)

StanM, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 08:05 (five years ago) link

omg trayce

crüt, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 08:27 (five years ago) link

xp except we all end up on the rocket with Pauly Shore, Rosie O'Donnell, Newt Gingrich etc.

Neil S, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 09:14 (five years ago) link

god i would pay so much money to see newt gingrich die on the moon

he would pop nicely

Neil S, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 09:27 (five years ago) link

DOJ seems like a bigger deal than SEC?

BREAKING: Bloomberg News has learned Tesla is under investigation by the DOJ over public statements made by the company and CEO Elon Musk last month on taking Tesla private, according to two people familiar with the matter.

— David Meyers (@davidfmeyers) September 18, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link

def

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:33 (five years ago) link

has anyone seen Grimes in the last few weeks

frogbs, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link

On the moon already?

Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link

dead from shame iirc

Buried on the moon.

Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link

For real though I can't remember where I saw it but it was some insanely detailed conspiracy theory that Elon is holding Grimes hostage or has already killed her or something. This is based solely on her absence from social media, which tbh is a bit strange, since she's become a public figure she's never taken a break from communicating with fans for this long. but good fuck that doesn't mean she's dead

flappy bird, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 19:02 (five years ago) link

or does it

it only took about 3 weeks to make a functional Melania clone

frogbs, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link

in that he's wooden and unconvincing, yes

Neil S, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link

omg trayce
lol i’m glad someone got it.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 12:14 (five years ago) link

http://livingstingy.blogspot.com/2018/09/threshold-of-pain-theory-and-tesla.html

Kind of funny really how the whole appeal of Tesla is "electric car!" but electric cars have been around since 1890

https://www.energy.gov/articles/history-electric-car

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 20 September 2018 14:41 (five years ago) link

oh is that the whole appeal

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 20 September 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link

well, also the sexiness

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 20 September 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link

Nothing sexier than a wood-burning car:

https://assets.goodstatic.com/s3/magazine/assets/557703/original/18n4xo91e8q35jpg.jpg

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 21 September 2018 00:42 (five years ago) link

nothing sexier than a cruck!

| (Latham Green), Friday, 21 September 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link

latham green i think you are elon musk

mark s, Friday, 21 September 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link

all signs point to it

mark s, Friday, 21 September 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link

the ute is on fire

Dan I., Friday, 21 September 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link

He's only a simlation

| (Latham Green), Friday, 21 September 2018 19:18 (five years ago) link

Back when I got to Melbourne, and before I started working with Mr Musks products, someone tried to convince me to join a startup dedicated to reviving the tech behind this 1963 steam powered ford falcon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJq2Hc_mXFI

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 22 September 2018 00:15 (five years ago) link

i am just saying (me yesterday, bloomberg today) pic.twitter.com/iH9tmjqg43

— Matt Levine (@matt_levine) September 27, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 27 September 2018 20:06 (five years ago) link

a further response to the "but he makes solar panels!" defense offered upthread:

https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/yelp-reviews-teslas-residential-solar-business-and-its-not-pretty

sleeve, Thursday, 27 September 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link

woww

MORE: SEC seeks to bar Musk as officer or director of a public company pic.twitter.com/rkZBtcgEdV

— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) September 27, 2018

sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 27 September 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link

hahahaha

this guy can't crash and burn fast enough

Οὖτις, Thursday, 27 September 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link

A banker friend of mine was going hard for this guy a few weeks ago. I told him I thought he was the next DeLorean. So when they get around to rebooting Back to the Future ...

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 September 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link

hell have more time to extremely publicly dedicate himself to being as cool as joe rogan

sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 27 September 2018 20:40 (five years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoIKkauWkAAGj-L.jpg

mookieproof, Thursday, 27 September 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link

p funny tbh

sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 27 September 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45672813 I have no idea what any of this means...

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Thursday, 27 September 2018 20:48 (five years ago) link

I think it means that we have actual cosmic proof of LSD use revealing our true self.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 28 September 2018 00:49 (five years ago) link

hell prob be happier as a podcast host anyway

sprout god (lag∞n), Friday, 28 September 2018 02:20 (five years ago) link

is it against the law to be zany and carefree?

rip van wanko, Friday, 28 September 2018 03:16 (five years ago) link

if your company is on the stock market, yes, it is.

StanM, Friday, 28 September 2018 03:30 (five years ago) link

grimes should just release her new album as an exhibit in the discovery phase of Musk's trial.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 28 September 2018 09:17 (five years ago) link

"your honor, i enter exhibit 16 into the record, this earworm with witchhouse production under a buoyant pop melody, 'IPO'"

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 28 September 2018 09:20 (five years ago) link

lmao assuming Grimes is still alive

frogbs, Friday, 28 September 2018 12:38 (five years ago) link

clown is goin down

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45696150

Visibly Over 25 (snoball), Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link

$40million for a tweet, fair enough but who got even half as busted for anything leading up to the great crash?

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link

he remains as CEO

sleeve, Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:44 (five years ago) link

the only bad publicity is bankrupcty

| (Latham Green), Monday, 1 October 2018 18:45 (five years ago) link

well get there

sprout god (lag∞n), Monday, 1 October 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link

lol matt levine

Musk will purchase $20 million worth of the company’s stock in the next trading opportunity, according to a person familiar with his plans. He’s Tesla’s largest shareholder, with a 20 percent stake.

Musk is paying the SEC a $20 million fine. Tesla is also paying the SEC a $20 million fine. Is what is happening here that Musk feels responsible for Tesla’s $20 million fine, so he’s making it up to Tesla by buying some stock? But he’s not buying it from Tesla? He’s just going out into the stock market and buying some Tesla stock? Does he … think that … if he does that … Tesla gets the money? I feel like the implied message here is “Elon Musk doesn’t really ‘get’ corporate finance, so cut him some slack for tweeting weird stuff about ‘going private.’”

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 1 October 2018 22:27 (five years ago) link

Is it all a cunning plan? Act weird and stupid to devalue stock, buy an extra bunch when price is low, then act smart for a while so value rises... bingo, jackpot!

(nb. I don't 'get' corporate finance.)

brain (krakow), Monday, 1 October 2018 23:29 (five years ago) link

I would be very amused if the SEC came back and did him for insider trading.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 01:15 (five years ago) link

It was all tweeting while intoxicated - twitter shoudl have a bulit i nsensor for alcohol and stop you from drunk tweeting

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link

stupidest timeline klaxon:

TIL (via @inthesedeserts and the latest @trashfuturepod ep) that Elon Musk made his first million by selling his Korn fansite to Korn's then manager, because he discovered that the bassist was ripping off the bass riff from Seinfeld https://t.co/FI7xkjDLHa

— hussein kesvani (@HKesvani) October 3, 2018

mark s, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link

holy fs

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

possibly fake news tbf but I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE

mark s, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link

selling a korn fansite with sweet bass tabs for a million dollars is maybe the most dotcom boom era thing i have ever heard in my entire life

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link

it has to be real, it's on me.me

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link

its real everyone knows

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

that's what i heard

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

nothing is true, everything is permitted

especially elon musk's extremely real korn bass tabs site

shrek and han solo kinda dress the same (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link

ELON MUSK IS TRYING TO MAKE A POINT. THEY CAN'T BREAK HIS CODE OF ENERGY. THAT IS WHAT HE'S TALKIN'ABOUT.

... no, hold on, that was Papa Roach not Korn.

Zach Same (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link

I've never been to me.me

brownie, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 17:16 (five years ago) link

meATme.com is my email address if u have elon musp tips plz send them full confidentiality provided

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 17:17 (five years ago) link

It was all tweeting while intoxicated - twitter shoudl have a bulit i nsensor for alcohol and stop you from drunk tweeting

― | (Latham Green)

dub pilates (rushomancy), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 23:20 (five years ago) link

everyone shd be fined $20m every time they tweet

ps support my gofundme i have to raise $830 billion

mark s, Thursday, 4 October 2018 09:36 (five years ago) link

Musk has started mocking the US securities and exchange commission (days after he was fined millions by them) and not even the die hard supporters are on board for this spiral into defiance pic.twitter.com/rjR3Jy0mjd

— Ketan Joshi (@KetanJ0) October 4, 2018

Number None, Thursday, 4 October 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link

trying to imagine being the kind of person who loves a company so much they shove their "life savings" into a single stock

upsetting!

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Thursday, 4 October 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link

Of course this is the first response:

The stock was at the exact same price 5 days ago. It’s unstable because of shorts and constant manipulation campaigns. That said, buy in the dip because taunts or not, TSLA will still be a trillion valuation in 11 years according to analysts.

— uɐpʇou@ ✸ (@notdan) October 4, 2018

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 4 October 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link

I do love how these flamethrower-totin' free-marketeers get all in a huff about the existence of short positions

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Thursday, 4 October 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link

according to analysts, don't buy futures or options with your life savings

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 4 October 2018 23:30 (five years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DppvLxUWkAgTXsX.jpg:small

mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link

holy shit bruce wayne is real?????

himalayan mountain hole (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:52 (five years ago) link

Tony Stark does not care about solving important problems wtf

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:54 (five years ago) link

if you don’t think defeating ultron is an important problem i dunno what to tell you buddy

himalayan mountain hole (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuG2AVFB-g0

Number None, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:58 (five years ago) link

my tweets are way worse than elon musk's but do i ever come under attack? no i do not, it's a rich man's world yes it is yes it is

mark s, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:58 (five years ago) link

ultron was a problem of his own making iirc? so that's more like just cleaning up after yourself

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link

if i accidentally set my curtains on fire, stopping my house from burning down is still an important problem no matter the source of the flames

himalayan mountain hole (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:07 (five years ago) link

some would say the most urgent problem facing us today

mark s, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link

thisisfine.jpg

himalayan mountain hole (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:12 (five years ago) link

that doesn't make you a hero, it makes you an idiot

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link

An idiot hero

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:49 (five years ago) link

smokey bear collier

himalayan mountain hole (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:52 (five years ago) link

lmao Palmer Luckey is the VR chud who maxed out a donation to literal white supremacist Steve King

who wants to bet that Elon commissioned this piece himself

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:59 (five years ago) link

i actually know one of the writers of that piece; fortunately their bit wasn't terrible

mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link

“If that car was made anywhere else, and Elon wasn’t part of the manufacturing process, they would make a lot of money,”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-17/tearing-apart-teslas-to-find-elon-musk-s-best-and-worst-decisions

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 22 October 2018 23:52 (five years ago) link

Take the steel and aluminum frame at the bottom of the car, a design meant to increase safety. Tesla's battery already sits in the floor and adds stiffness, Munro said, so Tesla made the car heavier and more expensive without getting much benefit.

The aluminum trunk well, meanwhile, is made from multiple pieces held together with rivets and weld points instead of one lighter, cheaper fiberglass trunk preferred by other carmakers. The rear wheel well on the Model 3 also features nine pieces of metal riveted, sealed or welded together. The Chevy Bolt? It has one stamped piece of steel.

haha wow

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 00:12 (five years ago) link

every Tesla is hand-assembled by junior software developers

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 00:14 (five years ago) link

the worst timeline

lmao pic.twitter.com/V80oPmz2xs

— diana thirst (@cocksailor) October 23, 2018

la bébé du nom-nom (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 October 2018 14:39 (five years ago) link

͏͏I'm giving 10 000 Bitсoin (BTС) tо аll co͏mmunity!

͏͏I left the post of ͏director of Tesla, thаn͏k yоu аll for your support!

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— ͏­⁤Е­l͏­оn͏͏͏­ ͏͏͏͏͏͏­­­­­­­Μ͏͏­u­s͏͏͏­k͏͏͏͏­­­­­­ (@PantheonBooks) November 5, 2018

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 November 2018 13:51 (five years ago) link

What? Is "Elon Musk" a sloppy anagram for "Nigerian Prince"?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 November 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link

Musk's first idea to fix LA's traffic was double- or triple-decking the 405, which they worked on for awhile but eventually rejected because the off-ramps would get too crowded with cars. 🤔#NLCLA

— Alissa Walker (@awalkerinLA) November 9, 2018

So the Mayor of Los Angeles just asked Elon Musk if he thinks cities should really be building high-speed rail anymore.

Musk says no, they should not.

To a room full of city leaders who are working on high-speed rail projects. #NLCLA

— Alissa Walker (@awalkerinLA) November 8, 2018

A good heuristic for understanding why high-speed rail is a workable and practical idea and triple-decker freeways over mountains is that many effective high-speed rail networks exist all over the world and there are zero triple decker freeways over mountains.

— Michael T Sweeney (@mtsw) November 9, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 01:31 (five years ago) link

Also, earthquakes

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Friday, 9 November 2018 01:50 (five years ago) link

Musk wants to sell cars so duh

Οὖτις, Friday, 9 November 2018 02:14 (five years ago) link

This fuckin' guy

sleeve, Friday, 9 November 2018 02:25 (five years ago) link

elon musp

lag∞n, Friday, 9 November 2018 02:25 (five years ago) link

elon is his own failson something to think abt

lag∞n, Friday, 9 November 2018 02:29 (five years ago) link

Musk wants to sell cars so duh

― Οὖτις, Thursday, November 8, 2018 9:14 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

good of mayor garcetti to provide him with a platform

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 03:22 (five years ago) link

lol

Exclusive: NASA to launch safety review of SpaceX and Boeing after video of Elon Musk smoking pot rankled agency leaders https://t.co/woWjmEoa4C

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) November 20, 2018

mookieproof, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 19:23 (five years ago) link

i'd never have guessed joe rogan would be the one to destroy elon musk but i'm okay with it tbh

sign up for my waterless urinals webinar (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 19:25 (five years ago) link

damn nasa needs to chill and spark a fatty

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 19:26 (five years ago) link

I dunno, Brooklyn has this cool triple-level roadway, created by proto-Musk Robert Moses, and it's never had any problems.

http://gothamist.com/attachments/nyc_chrisrobbins/92018BQEcantilever.jpg

mick signals, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link

*j/o motion*

Elon Musk’s Boring Company abandons plan for tunnel below Westside. https://t.co/ovqgXI36pw pic.twitter.com/upBHcz6cB3

— Curbed LA (@CurbedLA) November 27, 2018

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 00:07 (five years ago) link

los angeles's worst citizen vs los angeles's worst citizens. tough to pick a side.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 00:34 (five years ago) link

Real sicka this guy

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 00:38 (five years ago) link

Elon Musk says people "must work at least 80 hours a week to make a difference." But research shows long workweeks aren't just bad for your health — they're also counterproductive pic.twitter.com/ROUB3OemGx

— CBS News (@CBSNews) November 27, 2018

he's lost CBS news

j., Saturday, 1 December 2018 03:09 (five years ago) link

what the fuck is wrong with him?

crüt, Saturday, 1 December 2018 03:14 (five years ago) link

he's making a difference what the fuck is wrong with you

j., Saturday, 1 December 2018 03:19 (five years ago) link

how many tunnels are you even digging rn

j., Saturday, 1 December 2018 03:21 (five years ago) link

or even trying to dig

j., Saturday, 1 December 2018 03:21 (five years ago) link

or planning on digging

j., Saturday, 1 December 2018 03:21 (five years ago) link

This guy lived at the end of my street when I was growing up.

He dug a lot of tunnels.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2006/aug/08/communities.uknews

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 1 December 2018 07:54 (five years ago) link

lol 'i just have a big basement'

j., Saturday, 1 December 2018 08:15 (five years ago) link

William h gass larper

Pierrot with a thousand farces (wins), Saturday, 1 December 2018 08:19 (five years ago) link

everything went wrong when the moleman died

mark s, Saturday, 1 December 2018 13:27 (five years ago) link

hot new ceo trend: going on tv and bawling over yr bad tweets

https: //twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1071921788035190784

link intentionally fucked cuz ilx is giving me poxy fule errors instead of embedding tweets again and i just couldn't wait to share this hot #content with everyone here

I saw that
What a freak

The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 December 2018 12:33 (five years ago) link

He's still digging that tunnel to Mars, right?

StanM, Monday, 10 December 2018 12:52 (five years ago) link

@TCofHouseMoore
Weird flex laughing at one of the most successful human being in the world. One who will never know you even exist. Whatever makes you feel good.

mookieproof, Monday, 10 December 2018 15:19 (five years ago) link

elon musk stans are among the worst people on earth, basically

it's so creepy every tweet is just these gross people kissing his ass

No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 December 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link

I wanna reply "he's not gonna venmo you dude" to each and every single one of these

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 10 December 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link

@TCofHouseMoore
Weird flex laughing at one of the most successful human being in the world. One who will never know you even exist. Whatever makes you feel good.

― mookieproof, Monday, December 10, 2018 10:19 AM (forty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

funny thing is laughing at celebrities on twitter is prob the best chance they have at knowing that you exist and are laughing at them

lag∞n, Monday, 10 December 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link

As proven by that Dodger Stadium farce, they're all employees. I bet they clip each defense and submit it with their annual review.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 10 December 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link

lol matt levine

I am not an expert in, like, journalism, but it does seem to me that “look at you” might be the best possible interview question to ask Elon Musk. If Musk is up for it I will happily interview him for Bloomberg and I promise that my questions will consist solely of saying “look at you” repeatedly; I bet it will break a lot of news.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link

Heh, that's funny.

Elon Musk just seems like such a dope. He's like the human version of those months of hype when they were teasing the Segway, which turned out to be nothing more than an updated version of a Rascal scooter.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link

"look at you!" is what Howard Stern always leads with

flappy bird, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link

the correct responce is "hiee"

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link

a well-timed series of air horn blasts always gets the room going

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link

the Segway, which turned out to be nothing more than an updated version of a Rascal scooter.

Rascal scooters have 3-5 wheels and are huge. Kamen's self-balancing device still looks p much like witchcraft.

sans lep (sic), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link

Yeah but the only people I see using them are tourists and traffic cops, which is a pretty lame use of witchcraft.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link

the technology is impressive they look like a total dorkmobile tho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

and are basically useless

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

still makes me laugh that the owner of segway died driving his own product off a cliff

the Weekend at Bernie's reboot will have a "Bernie on a segway" scene

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link

i was just at the fete des lumieres in lyon and instead of information booths they had people stand totally still on segways with big signs that said INFORMATION attached to their heads.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 18:45 (five years ago) link

Lyon? You mean The Future!

I remember the build up to the Segway (aka, It, iirc). Then it's revealed as something that will revolutionize travel from the guy who made a wheelchair that can climb stairs, which is super awesome. And then the Segway comes out, and it's about as awesome as those monkey shoes that show the shape of your toes.

Elon Musk, 99% of what I heard about him is that he wants to build all these hypothetical super-fast hyperloop tunnels or some bullshit. Tunnels to baseball stadiums, to space, to Chicago, to stranded Thai boy scouts. But all he's done is made luxury electric cars, which are like so fucking what? As soon as other car companies start mass-producing much more affordable and equally reliable and efficient electric cars, even more than they are now, in a couple of years, Teslas will be about as radical as Bentleys or some other luxury brand.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link

As soon as other car companies start mass-producing much more affordable and equally reliable and efficient electric cars, even more than they are now, in a couple of years, Teslas will be about as radical as Bentleys or some other luxury brand.

this is otm, they are gonna be outpaced by conventional auto companies *very* quickly

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link

its already happened tbh, tesla still has a glow for some ppl which is funny since theyre pretty shitty cars, making cars is very hard

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link

Yeah and the incumbent automakers also know how to acquire startups just the same as any other enterprise

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link

prob tesla will just end up acquired by one of the big boys after losing 90% of its value and then disappear totally after some corporate restructuring down the line

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link

Yup

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link

I can see a few of Tesla's ideas being legit gamechangers but trying to buck 100 years of auto manufacturing practices in the name of "disruption" is so incredibly stupid that only a galaxy brain like Elon Musk could've come up with it

plus they definitely seem to be committing some sort of obvious accounting fraud. their "profitable" Q3 made no sense whatsoever.

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link

yeah theres no way they havent done a ton of illegal shit in a number of areas

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:18 (five years ago) link

Elon Musk, 99% of what I heard about him is that he wants to build all these hypothetical super-fast hyperloop tunnels or some bullshit. Tunnels to baseball stadiums, to space, to Chicago, to stranded Thai boy scouts. But all he's done is made luxury electric cars, which are like so fucking what? As soon as other car companies start mass-producing much more affordable and equally reliable and efficient electric cars, even more than they are now, in a couple of years, Teslas will be about as radical as Bentleys or some other luxury brand.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, December 11, 2018 10:46 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this sometimes good thread will forever be sunk by self-owning posts such as this one

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:48 (five years ago) link

afaict all the EV nerds who are not musk fans by the jaguar now?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link

like he doesn't even have the luxury market

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link

also looking forward to alleged public "rides" on the hawthorne test boring co thing next week.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link

Trying to figure out how I self owned. Is it because what I reduced his accomplishments to (spurring others to make electric cars?) can be construed a big deal? Like he's some electric car martyr who paved (har) the way for others?

Anyway, let me know when I can take a Tesla train cross country in an hour or whatever and, if any of us are alive then, I'll concede his genius.

I did hear someone talking on NPR this morning about how limited discussion of self-driving vehicles has been (to sort of change the subject). The most novel idea he offered was a self-driving ambulance with a host of automated diagnostic tools that you could call to your house in an emergency. Stuff like that. But nothing about tunnels, so I assume it was not Musk talking.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 21:36 (five years ago) link

you have taken a very "skeptical asshole" posture toward something and then you offered "99% of what (you) heard about" it in a paragraph that was part joking sure but also, I have to assume, a good summary of what you actually know about it.

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:14 (five years ago) link

all he's done is made luxury electric cars, which are like so fucking what?

SpaceX seems like an interesting company with several very impressive engineering feats to its credit. tbh, I doubt that Elon Musk has had much, if any, direct input on how these were achieved. At most he sets lofty objectives and his employees do the real work.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:25 (five years ago) link

they mostly buy scrapped Russian rockets iirc

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:25 (five years ago) link

I'll take Virgin Galactic over SpaceX tbh if only because Branson seems like slightly less of an asshole

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link

lol no

Pierrot with a thousand farces (wins), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link

um

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:54 (five years ago) link

guys they can both just be assholes ok its not an unpopularity contest

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:58 (five years ago) link

so true

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:59 (five years ago) link

I bring up Branson in part to demonstrate that Musk didn't have any uniquely genius ideas, he had p much the same ideas other billionaires had

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:00 (five years ago) link

also VIRGIN GALACTIC just sounds cooler than SpaceX come on

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:00 (five years ago) link

(cues up XTC's "Another Satellite")

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link

maybe if your a galactic virgin lol faced

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link

heh

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:02 (five years ago) link

damn

macropuente (map), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:03 (five years ago) link

coincidentally ive been antagonized by horrible nerds on twitter for the last couple days cause i said going to space is dumb and childish

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:04 (five years ago) link

Hah

Pierrot with a thousand farces (wins), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:04 (five years ago) link

It is tho

Musk yet to do anything as evil as suing the nhs iirc

Pierrot with a thousand farces (wins), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:05 (five years ago) link

attempting to undermine public transpo projects in the pursuit of selling lousy cars is pretty bad

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:06 (five years ago) link

That it is

Pierrot with a thousand farces (wins), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link

full disclosure: I didn't know about the NHS thing

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:11 (five years ago) link

wait is Musk Sir Miles Axlerod or The Underminer. pick a movie.

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:12 (five years ago) link

wtf r u talking about

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:14 (five years ago) link

attempting to undermine public transpo projects in the pursuit of selling lousy cars is pretty bad

― lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 10:06 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

But in the best traditions of the auto Indy which is about the only thing he hasn’t learnt from carmakers.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:19 (five years ago) link

I guess my point, as such, was that the only thing he's really *achieved* has been his line of fancy cars. Everything else has been sort of a pipe dream work in progress that seems more talk than payoff, as of yet. That is to say, I understand that Space x is a thing, but I don't understand what that thing is. To privatize space travel?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:26 (five years ago) link

mostly

(I'm in favor of space travel+research fwiw)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:27 (five years ago) link

lol you guys are such haters.

DJI, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:27 (five years ago) link

Space x’s number one thing is to earn money by putting things into orbit.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:28 (five years ago) link

If he wants to build rockets, that's cool, but it really does seem most directly a guy with money does things for other people with money project, unless one factors in the abstract potential benefits of future space travel. I agree that space travel and research is mostly a good thing, but I'm not sure how good it is in the hands of a select few with the money to do it. For example, who owns the fruit of research financed by Space X?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:30 (five years ago) link

Which is to say, at the rate we're going Elon Musk will mostly be known as the guy that owns the moon.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:32 (five years ago) link

afaik they aren't financing any research, so not to worry!

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:32 (five years ago) link

space travel and research is childish and dumb actually

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:32 (five years ago) link

no more so than sports

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:33 (five years ago) link

you use the garbage we throw into orbit every day. spacex puts more garbage that you use into orbit more cheaply than everyone else by reusing the rockets, which they manage to land back on earth after launch.

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:34 (five years ago) link

sports is way better than space travel

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:34 (five years ago) link

spacex might still be a shit business model. new forbes article about that today. nba is a good business model. not paying college players probably the best business model.

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:35 (five years ago) link

sports is way better than space travel

them's fightin words

also stupid words

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:36 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cLOBHEON20

DJI, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:36 (five years ago) link

them's fightin words

also stupid words

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, December 11, 2018 6:36 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wow try growing up then get back to me

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:38 (five years ago) link

typed out a semi-drunk rant about sports vs Musk but then decided it was just easier to use the FP

I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:39 (five years ago) link

sports is way better than space travel

for mere earthbound clods like us, sure. but sports are also childish and dumb. I mean that in a good way

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:39 (five years ago) link

sports and space travel are both run by tech billionaires

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:39 (five years ago) link

however, steph curry does not believe we've landed on the moon

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:40 (five years ago) link

sports has athletes who can dunk space travel has what some smelly nerds

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:40 (five years ago) link

Space Jam

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:41 (five years ago) link

just going to throw that out there

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:41 (five years ago) link

sounds like someone's never seen a little movie called SPACE JAM

lol xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:42 (five years ago) link

there is a basketball jones and then there is tracy morgan's astronaut jones

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:43 (five years ago) link

umm actually i saw space jam in the theater plz think before u post

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:43 (five years ago) link

you didn't see cars 2 or incredibles 2, though

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:44 (five years ago) link

i saw the incredibles 1

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:45 (five years ago) link

Note that in Space Jam it was the Monstars who were doing the space travel in an attempt to enslave Earth not an argument for the goodness of space travel tbh

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:45 (five years ago) link

anyway space travel and sports are both fun activities by definition, since they are hard to do and there's no reason to do them

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:46 (five years ago) link

humans shdnt go to space its not for us

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:48 (five years ago) link

fine, you can stay behind

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:48 (five years ago) link

if god had meant us to go into space he would've put us in space

I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:48 (five years ago) link

space is cursed just like the new york knicks

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:49 (five years ago) link

the one exception is elon musk shd def go to mars and stay there

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:50 (five years ago) link

hey have you ever thought about how, like, we already *are* in space, man

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:51 (five years ago) link

no JD & The Straight Shot in space. 1 point for space.

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:51 (five years ago) link

no were on earth our home, the trash planet

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:51 (five years ago) link

unlike Sanpaku I believe it's important that all humanity perish on this rock made of garbage

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:52 (five years ago) link

i'm not going as far as all humanity but i have a list

I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:52 (five years ago) link

it's important to determine how far out our tail of garbage might reach

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:53 (five years ago) link

our best garbage (Voyager) will most likely outlast every trace of human civilization on earth

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:59 (five years ago) link

i thought that plastic bag in american beauty was supposed to be our "best garbage"

Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 00:04 (five years ago) link

I would never call Kevin Spacey best anything

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 00:24 (five years ago) link

I would never call Kevin Spacey best anything

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, December 11, 2018 4:24 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 00:28 (five years ago) link

the only good reason to go to space is to kill god

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 00:29 (five years ago) link

is there really a star wars where they ill god dont mess w me

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 00:31 (five years ago) link

shit you not

j., Wednesday, 12 December 2018 01:24 (five years ago) link

ok im sold i will read the wikipedia summary

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 01:28 (five years ago) link

spoilers for Xenoblade Chronicles 2
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Xenoblade Chronicles 2 also ends with going to space to kill god

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 01:31 (five years ago) link

spoilers for ready player 1
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it is bad

Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 01:37 (five years ago) link

but what does god need with a star war

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 05:57 (five years ago) link

So saying he dismissed them; they with speed
Their course through thickest constellations held,
Spreading their bane; the blasted stars looked wan,
And planets, planet-struck, real eclipse
Then suffered. The other way Satan went down
The causey to Hell-gate...

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 06:08 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHfLjsXmwYw

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:25 (five years ago) link

what did he say?

flappy bird, Thursday, 13 December 2018 06:01 (five years ago) link

Good luck, vegeta. Get a basket.

teen heartthrob Pacey Winger (Will M.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link

hahaha look at this thing

Elon Musk's tunneling company unveiled its 1.14-mile tunnel in Los Angeles County tonight, and I rode through it in a Tesla SUV. It was a bumpy ride! More here, check back for updates: https://t.co/JBEy6e8NcZ pic.twitter.com/8sSUGGwDM5

— Laura J. Nelson 🦅 (@laura_nelson) December 19, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 04:41 (five years ago) link

Wait they dug a tunnel just, like, because?

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 04:42 (five years ago) link

Part of the company’s goal, he said, is to create a tunneling process that will be 15 times faster than the “next best” option.

ok man good luck

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 04:48 (five years ago) link

Yeah Hitachi heavy industries or whoever has definitely not spent any time trying to make their tunnel boring machines faster, it’s probably low-hanging fruit

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 04:51 (five years ago) link

Building the 1.14-mile tunnel took about 18 months and cost about $10 million, Musk said. The figure does not include the costs of research, development or equipment, the company said, and it is not clear whether it includes the money spent on property acquisition or labor. The $10 million is still orders of magnitude lower than a typical subway project, Musk said.

its not a subway tunnel............but itd be cool if it was

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 04:54 (five years ago) link

http://www.hitachizosen.co.jp/english/products/products024.html

These are obviously easy to understand and improve on

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 04:54 (five years ago) link

tbh a determined person of wealth cld prob figure out how to build subways cheaper than we do considering the whole freakin rest of the world does

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 04:56 (five years ago) link

just driving underground, red faced, shouting "excellence is a passing grade in this tunnel. cylindrical coordinates are the coordinates in this tunnel."

Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 04:57 (five years ago) link

One of the most annoying things we're going to be subjected to over the next few weeks is fanboys celebrating Elon Musk's invention of Tunnel Boring Machines, a technology that has existed for 150 years.

— Michael T Sweeney (@mtsw) December 15, 2018


Being able to cost-effectively bore underground tunnels is great, and something the USA is not very good at doing, but it's not exactly a high-tech problem with high-tech solutions.

— Michael T Sweeney (@mtsw) December 15, 2018


The Boring Company, I'm fairly certain, is not doing anything innovative! They just bought an off-the-shelf TBM and are... operating it. Fine! Tunnels are neat. But it's like not really anything new or interesting.

— Michael T Sweeney (@mtsw) December 15, 2018

i mean if he makes it cheaper good for him. but the problems in the US are not technical so i'm not optimistic but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

the car skate is stupid though.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 04:58 (five years ago) link

kayne and elon shld link up

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 05:00 (five years ago) link

my boretiful dark tunneled fantasy

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 05:33 (five years ago) link

lots of weird wired anecdotes

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 05:44 (five years ago) link

The figure does not include the costs of research, development or equipment, the company said, and it is not clear whether it includes the money spent on property acquisition or labor.

So...$10m for? Musk's walking around money?

Ned Trifle X, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 10:02 (five years ago) link

One of the things that makes his tunnels faster is that they are too small to put any useful in like a train or a bus.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 10:55 (five years ago) link

isn't the aim that there'll be some kind of car-train in it though?

koogs, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 11:26 (five years ago) link

yes, so he’s building something that doesn’t exist and won’t efficiently move people, but he’s building it faster

sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link

https://la.curbed.com/2018/12/18/18147366/elon-musk-tunnel-tesla-test-opening-grimes

Boring Company estimates noted that 4,000 cars will be able to use a tunnel per hour. Comparatively, on-street transit like light rail or buses traveling in dedicated lanes can move 10,000 to 25,000 people per hour, according to the National Association of City Transportation Officials.

this is so unbelievably stupid.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link

my boretiful dark tunneled fantasy

lmao

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link

New Boring Company documents shared at the event showed not just a network of tunnels connecting Los Angeles destinations, but diagrams of dozens of tunnels stacked three to four levels deep.

It called to mind a phenomenon transportation planners call “induced demand,” where building more capacity, like adding lanes to freeways, ends up creating more congestion.

Musk was skeptical of the idea of induced demand.

“I think it’s a red herring,” he said. “No matter how much demand there is, you can satisfy it with a network of 3D tunnels... If you have 20, 30, 40 tunnels, eventually you run out of people to use them.”

got this response from the GM of LADOT (i.e. not someone irrelevant to this project)

The cost of the tunnel is low because the tunnel is small. You need dozens of tunnels for non-stop A to B trips (and to solve for the “red herring” of induced demand what). At what point does the tunnel of tunnels reach the mines of Moria and the cost point of an actual subway?

— Seleta Reynolds (@seletajewel) December 19, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link

this is dumb as fuck

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link

i want musk to read power broker before he's allowed to talk to garcetti again

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link

elon like fucken rocks hes the real punk rock for our generation

Slappa da basspic.twitter.com/pmTFPmfkNT

— ★★★★☆ (@petel) December 19, 2018

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Duyu5WaUYAIVSHw.jpg

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link

worst ride in Disneyland tbh

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link

Boring Company estimates noted that 4,000 cars will be able to use a tunnel per hour.

If UK Tesla drivers are anything to go by this will be 4,000 dicks going thru the tunnel because they can.

Ned Trifle X, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link

Need to wait for an hour to have the guide wheels bolted on.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link

Whadda douche

DJI, Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link

tax writeoff

sleeve, Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:20 (five years ago) link

Are they made out of clean water

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:21 (five years ago) link

"A $480,350 donation by the Musk Foundation announced in October is now being used to pay for water filtration systems in all 12 Flint school buildings and the administration building.

School board members approved the purchase Wednesday night of water cooler/bottle filler systems from Industry, Calif.-based Murdock Manufacturing for $221,000. The systems include water fountains and water coolers for students.

A request for proposal for water system installation is set to come in early 2019, with installation expected to be completed by February."

DJI, Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:21 (five years ago) link

more tax writeoffs

sleeve, Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:22 (five years ago) link

Do you know what that means?

DJI, Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:24 (five years ago) link

But musk does. And he's the one writing it off.

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:26 (five years ago) link

IDGI Are you guys advocating for repealing the charitable tax deduction?

DJI, Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link

we're saying that your examples are bad, and not persuasive as a testament to his alleged good character

sleeve, Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:30 (five years ago) link

and yeah anyone who makes over a certain threshold should be ineligible for the charitable tax deduction (see: Bill Gates)

sleeve, Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:30 (five years ago) link

I advocate for repealing the charitable tax deduction and replacing it with a charitable 95% tax rate on unearned income

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link

4,000 per hour? How small are these cars?

https://0419308.netsolhost.com/WordPress/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/shriners-parades.jpg

StanM, Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:44 (five years ago) link

oh. sorry caek :(

StanM, Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link

we're saying that your examples are bad, and not persuasive as a testament to his alleged good character

― sleeve, Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:30 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm not sure why I keep defending the guy, but I guess it's just because you guys are so quick to find some kind of evil motive behind everything he does.

When you donate to charity, you get to deduct it from your taxes. So, effectively, you are getting the government to use tax dollars to help fund some charitable cause. You don't get your money back! You don't then get to slip into some lower tax bracket (AFAIK). Not sure how paying for clean water for Flint schoolkids became some kind of diabolical plot in your mind.

DJI, Thursday, 20 December 2018 22:00 (five years ago) link

i think the motive is usually intense stupidity rather than evil.

it's ok to donate money. as with all Big Philaonthropy, it would be better if he used his influence to advocate for a social safety net, better governance, and mass transit though. https://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/plutocrats-at-work-how-big-philanthropy-undermines-democracy

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 20 December 2018 22:23 (five years ago) link

xp a foundation donation is not the same as a personal one - foundations *have* to give a minimum amount away each year or get fined.

sleeve, Thursday, 20 December 2018 22:23 (five years ago) link

Ok...

DJI, Thursday, 20 December 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link

elon musp

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 December 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link

rode in a Tesla yesterday and the driver was very excited to show me an "easter egg" where if you crank the turn signal so many times it turns the road into a rainbow on the screen and plays the "need more cowbell" SNL skit for like 2 minutes

not only is that embarrassing I imagine it's somewhat of a safety risk? I mean if I was driving home at midnight and my car started doing that I'd probably drive right off the road

frogbs, Friday, 21 December 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link

SIGH

lag∞n, Friday, 21 December 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link

the new Teslas can fart

flappy bird, Friday, 21 December 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link

Well, high emissions standards and all that.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 December 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link

Wait, that wasn't a joke!?!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 December 2018 18:45 (five years ago) link

How much bitcoin for a zer0 day that will infect all Teslas and force them to autoplay the theme from Get Smart?

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 22 December 2018 01:20 (five years ago) link

Not a joke

flappy bird, Saturday, 22 December 2018 05:50 (five years ago) link

It is a near certainty that it’s possible to lowjack a Tesla over WiFi and take over the accelerator, it’s just a matter of research

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Saturday, 22 December 2018 05:53 (five years ago) link

Damn

flappy bird, Saturday, 22 December 2018 05:53 (five years ago) link

silby driving cars

lag∞n, Saturday, 22 December 2018 06:01 (five years ago) link

I mean like I have no knowledge of how to go about this it’s just almost certainly possible, because of how computers are

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Saturday, 22 December 2018 06:06 (five years ago) link

Did you know?

Evian, the first bottled water, is naive spelled backwards

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) January 3, 2019

frogbs, Friday, 4 January 2019 19:25 (five years ago) link

They took their cue from Serutan, I guess.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 4 January 2019 19:49 (five years ago) link

elon musk is kum noel spelled backwards

lag∞n, Friday, 4 January 2019 21:57 (five years ago) link

irl lol

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 5 January 2019 01:14 (five years ago) link

I know Twitter is limited to NYC/DC concerns but I can't emphasize enough that this is a *real map* of what El*n M*sk is proposing for Chicago and it literally runs parallel to a train that costs $2.25 and leaves every 7 minutes.

I am not kidding, this is it. 1/3 pic.twitter.com/rWAzYagBVt

— Ed Burmila (@gin_and_tacos) January 8, 2019

Number None, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 14:58 (five years ago) link

my man doesn't even have the decency to propose a route that at least forms the outline of a dick, the numbers 69 or 420 or a pentagram ffs

tacticool spank bank material (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 15:01 (five years ago) link

I was just turning this over in my mind and realized how insanely fucked the perception of public transportation is in this country

mh, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:14 (five years ago) link

i'm all in favor of calling elon's plan "the vroom vroom tube" though

mh, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:18 (five years ago) link

the transformer tube, as it only carries special cars that transform into tube-pods

sans lep (sic), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 17:44 (five years ago) link

Huh, that is real real dumb. Assuming this comes to fruition, I'm super glad I no longer live anywhere near that route.

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 17:53 (five years ago) link

It's difficult to understate just how relatively hassle-free that particular train trip is. Like if I'm going to that part of the city on the CTA, I will sometimes make the seemingly-unintuitive move of first taking a straight shot south to downtown (I live within walking distance from the northern Chicago border) just to take the Blue Line back northwest rather than deal with the many other less convenient travel options available.

Musk u dumb.

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link

i'd written out a post on how that particular route is insanely dumb even from my "visiting chicago" perspective but tbh it is so incredibly-self-evident the post would be worthless

the one thing that'd make this even dumber is just adding (or adding more) loop->o'hare express trains that skip most of the stops. i accidentally (!) got on one on the way to midway once and ended up at the airport so fast

mh, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 18:09 (five years ago) link

somehow I missed this laughably stereotypical awfulness:

A Future with Elon Musk’s Neuralink: His plan for the company is to ‘save the human race’. Elon’s main goal, he explains, is to wire a chip into your skull. This chip would give you the digital intelligence needed to progress beyond the limits of our biological intelligence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuralink

sleeve, Friday, 18 January 2019 03:15 (five years ago) link

lol this guy

lag∞n, Friday, 18 January 2019 03:16 (five years ago) link

Musk said he got partly interested in the idea from a science fiction concept called "neural lace" that is part of the fictional universe in The Culture, a series of novels by Iain M. Banks.

lag∞n, Friday, 18 January 2019 03:17 (five years ago) link

This guy must get baked pretty much on the regular.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 18 January 2019 03:57 (five years ago) link

how come he's gotta wire it into my skull, how could it be so great if his goal isn't to put it in his skull first

j., Friday, 18 January 2019 04:04 (five years ago) link

Gotta say that I'm glad bezos and musk are Culture fans. IMO the best utopian sci-fi.

DJI, Friday, 18 January 2019 04:12 (five years ago) link

You wait until these fuckers have knife missiles, then you'll be sorry.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 18 January 2019 05:00 (five years ago) link

lol this asshole

I just learned that Elon Musk flies in a $70 million private jet. Mostly to commute from LA to the Bay. Sometimes from Van Nuys to LAX -- literally across town.

— Leighton Woodhouse (@lwoodhouse) January 31, 2019

maxwell’s silver hang suite (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 31 January 2019 14:14 (five years ago) link

To be fair he’s not actually on the jet on those intra-LA flights. He’s having someone move it so he doesn’t have as far to go to get to it.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 31 January 2019 15:35 (five years ago) link

remember when people thought this dude was gonna be a pioneer for climate change

frogbs, Thursday, 31 January 2019 15:38 (five years ago) link

i mean he's right at the cutting edge of personally contributing to climate change

maxwell’s silver hang suite (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 31 January 2019 15:49 (five years ago) link

doesn't even have an electric jet project in the works smdh

mh, Thursday, 31 January 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link

just think, if he'd flown that jet 150,000 miles into space he'd be 0.001% of the distance to mars by now

maxwell’s silver hang suite (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 31 January 2019 16:28 (five years ago) link

'The Long View' on Radio 4 is this programme that compares an historical event or figure with one from the present day and seeks to point out how similar they are. This week was isambard kingdom brunel and elon musk, the first 3 mins was some railway fellow giving the background of brunel and what an innovative engineer he was, his background on the railways and the idea of an atmospheric railway and what a pioneer he was etc. Then the presenter lists elon musk's accomplishments paypal etc then goes something like "so isambard kingdom brunel giant of the railways and cutting edge engineer back then and elon musk groundbreaking engineer now" only for the technology contributor also on the program to cut in with "elon musk isn't an engineer, he left after 2 days of classes" lol

oscar bravo, Thursday, 31 January 2019 17:06 (five years ago) link

oh, alllison
my twitter impression = true

(ADVANCE) (320k vbr) (--V2) (aps) (diVX) (2CD) OST - SB (2019) (esby), Saturday, 9 February 2019 01:06 (five years ago) link

Apparently he arrived in Ostend (belgium). An acquaintance's brother is working for Tesla here in Belgium.

nathom, Saturday, 9 February 2019 07:14 (five years ago) link

if you read this thread you probably already read matt levine, but today's is good on musk

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-02-20/elon-musk-can-t-help-himself

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 21:15 (five years ago) link

He’s also claiming (in Wired) that they will have FULL self-driving cars by the end of 2020, where the driver could take a nap while the car drives the whole trip.

DJI, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 22:08 (five years ago) link

elom nusk

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 22:21 (five years ago) link

lol

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 00:46 (five years ago) link

joer ogan

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 February 2019 01:03 (five years ago) link

making outlandish claims that never prove to be correct and fabulous promises he never keeps are almost his entire public relations playbook

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 28 February 2019 01:14 (five years ago) link

Promise kept: https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/28/18245165/tesla-model-3-price-lower-cost-elon-musk-news

DJI, Friday, 1 March 2019 00:34 (five years ago) link

well... i mean the promise hasnt been kept until the cars have actually been delivered. at the moment this is just another announcement.

just sayin, Friday, 1 March 2019 00:47 (five years ago) link

he also accepted pre-orders for the self-driving option... which hasnt happened

just sayin, Friday, 1 March 2019 00:47 (five years ago) link

I can't figure out who does more goalpost-moving, Musk, or the people in this thread.

DJI, Friday, 1 March 2019 00:51 (five years ago) link

your blind uncritical loyalty is far more offensive, you really should just read through this thread again if you're having trouble understanding why so many people hate him

sold out in presale (sleeve), Friday, 1 March 2019 01:00 (five years ago) link

lol "blind uncritical loyalty"

DJI, Friday, 1 March 2019 01:05 (five years ago) link

i hate him cause hes bad but hes also very stupid

lag∞n, Friday, 1 March 2019 02:47 (five years ago) link

DJI you're not exactly uncritical, no. but your posts itt are kinda odd, like you've listed things that should be heinous dealbreakers ("I know he's a union-buster" or whatever) but they then don't... break the deal. like is there nobody else working on solar stuff to champion, instead of the guy where that's like the one tiny crumb of goodness to weigh against all the shit?

i admit tho that partly this is coming from the internet being so full of uncritical musk stans who say a lot of similar things and maybe my radar is extra sensitive, idk

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 1 March 2019 02:52 (five years ago) link

guy literally thinks going to mars is good when it so obviously sucks shit

lag∞n, Friday, 1 March 2019 02:53 (five years ago) link

We can go to mars in like seven hundred years it’ll still be there

moose; squirrel (silby), Friday, 1 March 2019 03:12 (five years ago) link

the guy launched his car into space, like how dumb is that

Clay, Friday, 1 March 2019 03:12 (five years ago) link

He only does dumb things, and does them in the most obnoxious way.

moose; squirrel (silby), Friday, 1 March 2019 03:13 (five years ago) link

confusing science fiction for science is thing that annoys me about nerds

lag∞n, Friday, 1 March 2019 03:14 (five years ago) link

the whole thing of canonizing the underdog tesla too, also while actually behaving like edison

lag∞n, Friday, 1 March 2019 03:16 (five years ago) link

like grow the f up jeez

lag∞n, Friday, 1 March 2019 03:17 (five years ago) link

We can go to mars in like seven hundred years it’ll still be there

we won't, tbf

steven, soda jerk (sic), Friday, 1 March 2019 03:33 (five years ago) link

thinking abt the time he cried on national tv cause the government said he cldnt post lies about him company anymore lmfao incredible

lag∞n, Friday, 1 March 2019 03:34 (five years ago) link

never go to mars mars is bad

lag∞n, Friday, 1 March 2019 03:34 (five years ago) link

my car is in the shop after a dude hit it earlier this week and it’s paid off

should I buy the new tesla so we could have a tesla guy on the thread

mh, Friday, 1 March 2019 04:36 (five years ago) link

when I built a new garage by my house I had it wired so I could put an electric car charger (or arc welder) in it fwiw so my infrastructure is ready

mh, Friday, 1 March 2019 04:38 (five years ago) link

Get an electric car made by a company that knows how to build cars imo

moose; squirrel (silby), Friday, 1 March 2019 05:03 (five years ago) link

pretty sure in current weather my battery life would be faring insanely poorly

mh, Friday, 1 March 2019 05:15 (five years ago) link

when I built a new garage by my house I had it wired so I could put an electric car charger (or arc welder) in it fwiw so my infrastructure is ready

― mh, Friday, March 1, 2019 4:38 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So you could use an electric kettle in your garage?

S-, Friday, 1 March 2019 07:41 (five years ago) link

never go to mars mars is bad

― lag∞n

go to barsoom instead

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Friday, 1 March 2019 14:47 (five years ago) link

go to.....heck

lag∞n, Friday, 1 March 2019 15:02 (five years ago) link

xxp a real european 220v one? maybe!

mh, Friday, 1 March 2019 15:07 (five years ago) link

x-post to JiC

Yeah Josh - you're right. There is enough bad about Musk that I guess he's inexcusable? I guess I'm (somewhat) giving him a pass because I like that he has taken on bigger, more pressing problems than just the typical amass-enough-MAUs-to-get-bought-by-Google "entrepreneurs," or the lazy, rent-seeking behavior of the dinosaur capitalists.

Electric cars, self-driving cars, low-cost space travel, solar tiles - I really like all of these ideas. And while you can debate hype vs. reality, I don't think you can just wave off all that he and his companies have done in those domains. Sure he's almost always late, but after spending a long time in tech, I think that overpromising is often a successful tactic used to get things done as quickly as possible, even if it drives observers (and engineering teams) crazy in the short-term.

DJI, Friday, 1 March 2019 18:13 (five years ago) link

the planet is is dying and suburbia is causing a health crisis in the meantime. and a lot of it is on cars. electric cars and self-driving cars are bad ideas.

they're also not ambitious. they're "what if cars, but electric" or "what if cars, but you don't hold the steering wheel". they're the ideas you come up with if you take the "snakes on a plane" approach to movie ideation and apply it to physical infrastructure.

so just to be clear: i'm not waving off his accomplishments. i'm saying they are bad.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 1 March 2019 19:04 (five years ago) link

driverless cars just equals a whole lot more unemployed truckers and farm workers right?

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 1 March 2019 19:35 (five years ago) link

they're the ideas you come up with if you take the "snakes on a plane" approach to movie ideation and apply it to physical infrastructure.

otm. succinct. witty, too. should be plastered all across the internet.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 1 March 2019 19:42 (five years ago) link

@caek
I hear where you're coming from that you feel that maybe driverless cars and electric cars are "bad" ideas, but I guess I disagree. I mean, they aren't the "best" ideas from a societal standpoint (I guess you'd favor putting more effort into mass transit, or no-transit solutions, which I also agree with), but that doesn't make them bad, imo.

However, to say that his ideas aren't ambitious is ridiculous. I mean, starting a car company when there hasn't been a new successful car company in the US since Jeep? Starting a rocket company? Trying to get cars to drive themselves? Those are ambitious ideas.

And to Dr. C - My end goal for technology/AI/automation is that nobody has to work. THAT is an ambitious idea. Getting to that state without mass disruption is the hard part, but I still think it's the goal.

DJI, Friday, 1 March 2019 20:50 (five years ago) link

that's a cool idea but we need some intermediary steps. the history of automation to date has often been flanked with that hope and in general capital has elected to keep the surplus to itself, with occasional pseudo-exceptions e.g. where very well-organized (and nonradical) unions negotiated final bail-out packages so that existing members would be compensated while their type of work was eliminated.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 1 March 2019 20:56 (five years ago) link

yeah i'm being hyperbolic about the no ambition stuff. but it's easy be ambitious when you're a billionaire so i grant him less credit.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 1 March 2019 21:11 (five years ago) link

"more cars" is ipso facto a bad idea from a societal point of view.

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 1 March 2019 21:14 (five years ago) link

if Elon Musk were ambitious he'd spend his money lobbying to ban cars.

moose; squirrel (silby), Friday, 1 March 2019 21:16 (five years ago) link

driverless cars just equals a whole lot more unemployed truckers and farm workers right?

not to mention they are still a very long away from actually working except in the most idealized conditions, AFAICT

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Friday, 1 March 2019 21:22 (five years ago) link

the most ambitious thing any california billionaire could do is bankroll a ballot measure to repeal proposition 13.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 1 March 2019 21:26 (five years ago) link

Less self driving more self guillotining

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Friday, 1 March 2019 21:28 (five years ago) link

the most ambitious thing any california billionaire could do is bankroll a ballot measure to repeal proposition 13.

Truth.

And I'm fine with tech dudes trying to automate all the jobs away, as long as we can get a 90% marginal income tax rate on their robot-fueled profits.

DJI, Friday, 1 March 2019 21:57 (five years ago) link

I mean getting rid of relatively shitty jobs should be a net good where a better job exists or we have the ability to educate/compensate people, but our societal idiocy about employment means making an autonomous semi truck makes a couple people unemployed. Unless you count the incremental number of road crews we're going to need to maintain interstate highways once unmanned amazon trailer drones are rocketing down them.

mh, Saturday, 2 March 2019 05:04 (five years ago) link

it would be cool for the rich people to support some sort of improves social safety net before they eliminate a ton of jobs

Karl Malone, Saturday, 2 March 2019 05:08 (five years ago) link

it would be cool for the rich people to support some sort of improves social safety net before they eliminate a ton of jobs

― Karl Malone

it would be but man my level of trust for "rich people" as a class is fairly low

if i'm going to take musk seriously, which nobody should because he's a clown, the idea of technological progress driving social progress is not a bad one, and also technological "progress" which brings about actively bad social change - like for instance the cotton gin - don't necessarily make their inventors bad people (elon musk is a bad person for other reasons and promoting electric cars does nothing to mitigate that)

i don't think fully automated gay space communism will become a thing until the technological infrastrucure to support it exists. i don't trust elon musk to effectively put that infrastructure in place.

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Saturday, 2 March 2019 13:59 (five years ago) link

you can choose what to invent and put money into developing. for example, in the wonder woman movie, dr. poison was a scientist working on technological progress and her choices about this made her a bad person.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 2 March 2019 15:10 (five years ago) link

driverless cars just equals a whole lot more unemployed truckers and farm workers right?

This is not just OTM but I've seen folks (possibly in this thread but certainly in interviews and whatnot) note the huge impact driverless cars would have on employment in the US - esp. truck drivers and taxi drivers (I think a lot of farm work has steadily become automated in some sense?). Millions of relatively low-skilled but good paying jobs, poof, gone. We should probably be planning for this, as a society, but of course we're not.

Anyone else ever read The Confidence Trap, about the tendency of people but esp. Americans (historically, per the book) to see a problem coming yet keep putting off the solution until the last minute, then successfully scramble to fix it, because it's worked like that time and again the past, however scary and inefficient? It's a pretty interesting read.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 2 March 2019 15:21 (five years ago) link

you can choose what to invent and put money into developing. for example, in the wonder woman movie, dr. poison was a scientist working on technological progress and her choices about this made her a bad person.

― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino)

i haven't seen "wonder woman" but surely the fictional character "dr. poison" is a bad person because she's called "dr. poison"?

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Saturday, 2 March 2019 15:40 (five years ago) link

poison can be medicine so depending how you look at it shes dr medicine

lag∞n, Saturday, 2 March 2019 15:43 (five years ago) link

it’s actually pronounced poy-sahn, she tried to work for the good of humanity but repeated misunderstandings due to nomenclature soured her outlook

mh, Saturday, 2 March 2019 15:44 (five years ago) link

This is not just OTM but I've seen folks (possibly in this thread but certainly in interviews and whatnot) note the huge impact driverless cars would have on employment in the US - esp. truck drivers and taxi drivers (I think a lot of farm work has steadily become automated in some sense?). Millions of relatively low-skilled but good paying jobs, poof, gone. We should probably be planning for this, as a society, but of course we're not.

― Josh in Chicago

we're not really capable of "planning" for anything as a society because we don't have a functioning society right now imo

if we're talking about making drastic societal changes like, i don't know, getting rid of cars entirely, these are changes that can come about either slowly and steadily, or rapidly and, er, "disruptively", under extreme circumstances. the existence of organized opposition to changing our society to make it sustainable is, ultimately, what will cause those changes to be radical and less-than-fully successful.

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Saturday, 2 March 2019 15:44 (five years ago) link

poison can be medicine so depending how you look at it shes dr medicine

― lag∞n

turned evil because the insurance companies wouldn't cover her cosmetic botox procedures

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Saturday, 2 March 2019 15:45 (five years ago) link

object to neowhig characterizations of history as involving "seeing" "problems" and "deciding" to "fix" them, like we're one guy behind one wheel interested in going one place. if you think of things that way of course you'll always be shocked by our driving (and by the water level)

i haven't seen "wonder woman" but surely the fictional character "dr. poison" is a bad person because she's called "dr. poison"?

which returns us neatly to "elon musk"

however i am gung-ho pro-automation; as others have already said you just have to seize and equitably distribute the value it creates. just that, lol

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 2 March 2019 15:48 (five years ago) link

It’s a tough job when you’ve got a government contract to send a mannequin smoking a huge doobie to space but somebody’s gotta do it

calstars, Saturday, 2 March 2019 16:02 (five years ago) link

Now I want a high tech Zero-G Indicator, $35 when in stock.

moistly harmless (Sanpaku), Sunday, 3 March 2019 16:48 (five years ago) link

Really looking forward to Tesla's "painful but necessary" cuts to referral program payouts... sorry, no more free $250k Roadsters!

Just kidding, that'll never happen. The shills getting six-figure payouts for their daily online PR aren't expendable. Perception is the entire game

— E.W. "Linear Thinker" Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) March 3, 2019

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 March 2019 18:38 (five years ago) link

https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-faces-legal-trouble-financial-issues-in-2019-2019-2

The beginning of the year was consumed by delays in the production of the Model 3, the upscale company's more affordable sedan. There was "production hell" to make the cars, and then "logistics hell" to deliver the cars. There was a ramp up that CEO Elon Musk said took the company "near death."

Then, of course, there was the $20 million fine Musk had to pay for misleading the public about plans to take the company private — as funding was in fact not "secured"— and the $20 million fine Tesla had to pay for the same infraction. Meanwhile, all year in a still seemingly never-ending line, executives and engineers and VPs left the company. There were layoffs and leaks and of course there was that time Musk called a diver who helped rescue a children's soccer team a "pedo." It was quite a year.

But now it's 2019. This year was supposed to be different for Tesla. Musk said there would no longer be any need to take big risks and "bet the company." In Q3 of last year it turned a profit, and then it did so again in Q4, Tesla's first consecutive quarters of profitability ever. Musk told investors on a conference call that the company would be profitable going forward. It would be a new day at Tesla Motors.

Recent events have called this turnabout into question. In violation of his SEC settlement, Musk is still tweeting material financial information that contradicts company forecasts. The SEC has given him until March 11 to show how he is not in contempt of the court ruling that followed his "funding secured" debacle.

Both the company's CFO and General Counsel announced their exits. And analysts still worry that the Tesla isn't holding enough cash to finance its ambitious growth plans.

And in stark contrast to Musk's statements about Tesla's profitability going forward, on Thursday Musk told a closed call with select reporters that the company would not be profitable in Q1, maybe Q2. This accompanied the announcement that the company's long awaited standard Model 3 (at around $35,000) would be available to order — a feat Musk said would require the closing of the lion's share of its retail stores and Tesla's third round of layoffs in the last 12 months.

Wall Street, for its part, sounds exhausted.

"Last year featured a number of idiosyncratic events that shaped the Tesla narrative and, just 2 months into 2019, it seems to be another year of significant volatility, driven by both economic factors and company-specific factors," Morgan Stanley analysts wrote in a note to clients on Friday.

Welcome to a new year.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 4 March 2019 19:34 (five years ago) link

isn't it pretty widely accepted that there's massive accounting fraud going on here

frogbs, Monday, 4 March 2019 19:35 (five years ago) link

no but its not a bad theory imho

lag∞n, Monday, 4 March 2019 19:36 (five years ago) link

have we heard any more about the giant parking lots full of reject cars lately

mh, Monday, 4 March 2019 19:46 (five years ago) link

Tesla has a long history of using diesel generators to recharge vehicles. Back in 2015, I found Tesla using them to power backup Superchargers at Harris Ranch, while its supposedly open battery swap station sat unused. https://t.co/OxtOCjhNuj https://t.co/IxaT4iowvk

— E.W. "Linear Thinker" Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) March 7, 2019

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:26 (five years ago) link

Now, a real visionary would figure out a clever way to install a diesel generator under the hood of a vehicle, so it could power the engine directly. You'd need a nationwide network of pumping stations though so you could refill the car's onboard liquid fuel tank when necessary.

mick signals, Thursday, 7 March 2019 21:03 (five years ago) link

I wonder how much it'd take to set up the power infrastructure to run a dozen charging rigs off the local electrical grid at each dealership or w/e

it's as if they're assuming the dealership is a pop-up shop and it's not going to last long enough to actually equip the location with real charging stations. hmmm.

mh, Thursday, 7 March 2019 21:08 (five years ago) link

I’m building a supercharging network right now (not for Tesla) and it’s actually quite challenging. The power draw on each charge head (140kW in the case of Tesla, soon to be 250kW) can be quite challenging for the grid in rural areas without a lot of power and urban areas with grid congestion. There’s also a pretty long lead time on things like transformers and MV switchgear and even longer lead times on getting the utility to uprate the grid if that is needed. You need to have charging stations at the right intervals so a diesel generator powered site will be (expensively: power at 4-5x the cost of grid) filling a gap whilst other infrastructure is getting sorted.

I’ve also never heard of Tesla battery swapping. No one has seriously considered battery swapping as ‘refuelling’ since Better Place folded nearly ten years ago.

I’m no Musk. Stand but my that is a very poorly written and researched article.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 7 March 2019 21:20 (five years ago) link

the tendency of people but esp. Americans (historically, per the book) to see a problem coming yet keep putting off the solution until the last minute, then successfully scramble to fix it, because it's worked like that time and again the past, however scary and inefficient?

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, March 2, 2019 10:21 AM (five days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

(looks at march workload) nothing has been more @ me next time

theorizing your yells (katherine), Thursday, 7 March 2019 21:23 (five years ago) link

Ed dropping the knowledge

mh, Thursday, 7 March 2019 22:43 (five years ago) link

imo a smart thing to do if you're into real estate investment would be to figure out the prime overlap between underutilized or at least well built-out power grids and prime commercial space for vehicle sales and grab some property to sell/lease to future electric car vendors

mh, Thursday, 7 March 2019 22:45 (five years ago) link

mine bitcoin while you're waiting

moose; squirrel (silby), Thursday, 7 March 2019 22:54 (five years ago) link

xpost

There's plenty of stuff to criticise Tesla on, many as well do it with actual facts. If you want to criticise the supercharger network you could start with the fact that Tesla chose a non-standard plug design which means non- Tesla vehicles can't use it (and Tesla's can't use off network chargers without an adaptor), leading to unnecessary duplicating of networks. This somewhat shows up Elon's line on wanting to stimulate the electric car uptake in general. (they are backing away from this in Europe, but only because the EU is moving towards a mandatory plug standard anyway).

If you've got land and a bit of under-utilised power grid then build solar or a wind farm, it'll pay off much better than EV charging will.

Please don't mine bitcoin

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 7 March 2019 23:01 (five years ago) link

Although by all means build an EV charger as well.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 7 March 2019 23:01 (five years ago) link

I wonder how much it'd take to set up the power infrastructure to run a dozen charging rigs off the local electrical grid at each dealership or w/e

it's as if they're assuming the dealership is a pop-up shop and it's not going to last long enough to actually equip the location with real charging stations. hmmm.

― mh, Thursday, March 7, 2019 4:08 PM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you saw they quietly announced last week that they're closing all their dealerships, right?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 8 March 2019 02:27 (five years ago) link

If I had to guess they’ll probably sell off the charging network at some point. It’s a good asset and will continue to benefit tesla customers even if they don’t own it.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 8 March 2019 02:46 (five years ago) link

xp I either missed that or forgot about it! But yes, that explains why they had no interest in setting up dedicated infrastructure -- the whole thing was a trial balloon/pop-up shop thing

mh, Friday, 8 March 2019 14:49 (five years ago) link

my cynical view for quite a while has been that Tesla isn't really an attempt to establish a long-running car company, it's a test platform for a handful of technologies that could be licensed or sold off to existing automobile manufacturers

that's at least partially shared by the companies that have established a competitor interest and hold Tesla shares. there's already plenty of collaboration and cross-licensing and production out there

mh, Friday, 8 March 2019 14:52 (five years ago) link

SpaceX Dragon demo capsule returns to Earth

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-47477617

koogs, Friday, 8 March 2019 15:03 (five years ago) link

🚶🏻‍♂️

Ooof, what the hell are they doing? https://t.co/Qa9FBcRd5x pic.twitter.com/c8jS25kkhX

— Michael T Sweeney (@mtsw) March 8, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 9 March 2019 00:09 (five years ago) link

glad someone's following up on that Tripp dude

when the initial articles about the battery factory shenanigans came out my friend and I started joking with a guy we know who got a tesla

"so did they stab holes in the lithium battery before it left the factory, or just throw it around a little? get the patch that causes spontaneous bursts of flame yet?"

mh, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 20:43 (five years ago) link

Elon Musk but with Elizabeth Holmes' eyes pic.twitter.com/wpaJFTW6Zm

— Rob Beschizza (@Beschizza) March 22, 2019

mookieproof, Saturday, 23 March 2019 06:19 (five years ago) link

laughing out loud at these Virginia transportation officials trying their best not to say "what the fuck was that" re: Elon Musk's car tube pic.twitter.com/V6En63P2fu

— snarkifesto (@lib_crusher) March 22, 2019

lag∞n, Sunday, 24 March 2019 03:57 (five years ago) link

It’s a tough job when you’ve got a government contract to send a mannequin smoking a huge doobie to space but somebody’s gotta do it

― calstars, Saturday, March 2, 2019 11:02 AM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I know I'm a month late but new board description please

flappy bird, Thursday, 28 March 2019 05:00 (five years ago) link

I have a major deadline on April 1 so it is very concerning to find out it already arrived

https://www.thefader.com/2019/03/31/elon-musk-soundcloud-rapper-rip-harambe

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Sunday, 31 March 2019 18:24 (five years ago) link

this is the most epic moment in Martin Shrekli's life and he's in jail for it

frogbs, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:51 (five years ago) link

are we to assume that musk's recent personal and professional meltdowns are because he spent the better part of the last three years devoted all his time and energy to a two-minute ode to a meme

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:59 (five years ago) link

lmao that Elon is reliving his teen shitposting years that were taken away from him, Michael Jackson style

frogbs, Monday, 1 April 2019 14:01 (five years ago) link

Promise kept: https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/28/18245165/tesla-model-3-price-lower-cost-elon-musk-news

― DJI, Friday, 1 March 2019 00:34 (one month ago) Permalink

well... i mean the promise hasnt been kept until the cars have actually been delivered. at the moment this is just another announcement.

― just sayin, Friday, 1 March 2019 00:47 (one month ago) Permalink

he also accepted pre-orders for the self-driving option... which hasnt happened

― just sayin, Friday, 1 March 2019 00:47 (one month ago) Permalink

I can't figure out who does more goalpost-moving, Musk, or the people in this thread.

― DJI, Friday, 1 March 2019 00:51 (one month ago) Permalink

https://electrek.co/2019/04/04/tesla-model-3-base-doesnt-exist/

just sayin, Sunday, 7 April 2019 22:26 (five years ago) link

Entertaining, insightful @latimes story on Elon Musk’s army of short-sellers, who are convinced he’s a fraud and Tesla is a house of cards — and aren’t afraid to tweet about it. https://t.co/YzpE31sU0x $TslaQ

— Laura J. Nelson 🦅 (@laura_nelson) April 8, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 8 April 2019 15:29 (five years ago) link

there will never be a $35k tesla.

https://www.tesla.com/blog/update-our-vehicle-lineup

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 12 April 2019 03:29 (five years ago) link

Sounds like you can have one but only if you go on a quest to a Tesla store and do battle with the Tesla sales team who will do eevrything they can to talk you out of making them take a loss on it.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 12 April 2019 04:03 (five years ago) link

A software-limited car model is an absurdity, who is that for

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Friday, 12 April 2019 04:14 (five years ago) link

if you think about it, the software in a lot of cars could do a lot more things, just not very well or safely

mh, Friday, 12 April 2019 12:43 (five years ago) link

you get heated seats if you preorder at GameStop

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 April 2019 12:59 (five years ago) link

omg lol

mh, Friday, 12 April 2019 13:01 (five years ago) link

unlock a classic aftermarket pioneer stereo skin for your display if you die during autopilot

Fictitious Business Name: (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 12 April 2019 16:37 (five years ago) link

A software-limited car model is an absurdity, who is that for

I’m mildly terrified whenever I’m in a car with software

blokes you can't rust (sic), Friday, 12 April 2019 17:23 (five years ago) link

I've got bad news for you

mh, Friday, 12 April 2019 18:09 (five years ago) link

my last car was made in 1994 and I walk a lot

blokes you can't rust (sic), Friday, 12 April 2019 18:31 (five years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Friday, 12 April 2019 20:14 (five years ago) link

i’m no pedant, sure, that works

mh, Friday, 12 April 2019 22:58 (five years ago) link

I'm with sic here. Our car barely has an engine, let alone software.

even the odometer was still mechanical in mine, though I’ll admit I did get into it with a mobile phone in my bag

blokes you can't rust (sic), Saturday, 13 April 2019 02:09 (five years ago) link

Lol what a cunt

So the Boring company loop can take as many passengers in A DAY as ONE Victoria Line tube train can take every 100 seconds

Please stop Elon Musk - take away his weed. Please. https://t.co/5Pmmrjln7r

— marcus (@marcusjdl) April 18, 2019

gyac, Thursday, 18 April 2019 18:54 (five years ago) link

not his weed that needs taken away from him. this is coke hubris with a budget

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 April 2019 18:56 (five years ago) link

its his life that shd be taken away, the movement starts here to execute elon musk #executeelonmusk

lag∞n, Thursday, 18 April 2019 18:58 (five years ago) link

trisect him midair, each part landing squarely on a target below

Fictitious Business Name: (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:42 (five years ago) link

tie him up in a tesla. turn on autopilot. direct the tesla toward the super aggro crag. mike o malley commentary throughout.

Fictitious Business Name: (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:45 (five years ago) link

pay ricky for a "service" on paypal.

Fictitious Business Name: (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:46 (five years ago) link

(the service is the execution)

Fictitious Business Name: (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:46 (five years ago) link

caught his press conference on autotaxis (don't ask why) and its the first time I've ever heard him speak...he is a remarkably poor public speaker, coming off like someone who's been awake for 72 hours

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 18:02 (five years ago) link

the hatred of lidar is interesting. the dismissal seems too convenient, but I don't know enough to say it's certainly wrong?

dreamcoat (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 18:42 (five years ago) link

he... probably has been awake for 72 hours.
I wonder how much short selling is predicated on his behavior raising the probability he is going to die soon.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 18:54 (five years ago) link

We should be so lucky

milkshake chuk (wins), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 18:56 (five years ago) link

if he dies Tesla stock would probably shoot way up

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 19:03 (five years ago) link

I don't think that's true? The whole company's a cult of personality thing

just sayin, Thursday, 25 April 2019 01:54 (five years ago) link

the hatred of lidar is interesting. the dismissal seems too convenient, but I don't know enough to say it's certainly wrong?

― dreamcoat (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, April 24, 2019 2:42 PM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm not familiar with musk's angle on lidar, but in general everyone who says they can do it without lidar has changed their mind (and moved their money) after trying

🚘🚖 Scoop(s): Layoffs at $INTL self-driving vehicle unit. Also, @Mobileye, once an anti-lidar firm, quietly bought a lidar-related company. https://t.co/ldZA2CIN0Q by @aatilley

— Amir Efrati (@amir) April 25, 2019

see https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/05/intels-mobileye-wants-to-dominate-driverless-cars-but-theres-a-problem/ for more on that

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 25 April 2019 03:24 (five years ago) link

i've kinda only been skimming the thread lately and when i saw "the hatred of lidar" i assumed that "Lidar" had to be the name of some rival monstrous tech personality

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 25 April 2019 03:33 (five years ago) link

Try to spot the two quarters where the entire legal and accounting teams resigned. $TSLA pic.twitter.com/vwZXWV69X0

— "Elon Says" (@ElonBachman) April 24, 2019

just sayin, Thursday, 25 April 2019 04:26 (five years ago) link

Elon's evil cousin who keeps trying to sabotage him, Lidar Musk

mh, Thursday, 25 April 2019 13:56 (five years ago) link

losing 800 dollars a month isn't really a lot though.

koogs, Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:05 (five years ago) link

Ha.

Though I do like the idea of Tesla profits scaled down for, say, Elon's Lawn Service.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:11 (five years ago) link

"Episode X: The Hatred of Lidar"

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:36 (five years ago) link

in star wars, they'd use fodar

dreamcoat (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 25 April 2019 16:30 (five years ago) link

kylo and rey have a thing they call fodar love

dreamcoat (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 25 April 2019 16:39 (five years ago) link

I finally got short a little bit of TSLA today (through a put, the shares aren’t possible to borrow) just for shits and giggles.

o. nate, Friday, 26 April 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link

hope you got in at the open!

camp pendleton subway yelp review (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 26 April 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link

or not since i don't think puts work that way

camp pendleton subway yelp review (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 26 April 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link

i suppose the strike price you can get changes somewhat in real time, so it does make some sense? i've never bought anything but shares (of other stocks. TSLA scares me).

camp pendleton subway yelp review (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 26 April 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link

anway, lidar help you if elon tweets 420 right before expiration

camp pendleton subway yelp review (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 26 April 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link

I didn’t get in at the open but still made a small profit. I’ve already closed it out. I’ll feel dumb if the stock craters on Monday.

o. nate, Friday, 26 April 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

holy shit

Parent's worse nightmare lived.

A mother retrieving her toddler son from a $TSLA parked in her garage instead has the car suddenly accelerate, slamming her against the wall.

The car wouldn't stop, breaking several bones & causing premature delivery of 2nd child.

Harcourt pic.twitter.com/7Nqp8gGJBh

— luis carruthers (@orthereaboot) May 28, 2019

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link

of course people are saying "the toddler did it could happen in any car" in the comments despite the fact that the key was in the woman's possession and no a toddler cannot start a car that's in park and put it in drive and accelerate without a key in the ignition in any other car that exists

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link

every new parent worries that they could be run over by their absurdly expensive smart car with Falcon Wing doors. few are forced to live this parent's "worse" nightmare.

i got bag sauce in my bag (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link

Maybe the child used telekinesis.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link

it appears Tesla is.....blaming the toddler

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

has Elon called the woman a pedophile for having a toddler in the car

mh, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link

will call the toddler a pedalphile instead

i got bag sauce in my bag (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link

thumbs up

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

from the description in the full court document, it looks like she left all of the doors open except for the front passenger door with the key inside? and her son got into the driver's seat and accelerated the car by pressing the pedals. so the case is that other nice cars have additional safety features. my partner's car engages the parking brake if you start it with any door open. my car doesn't care. teslas are such a weird combination of impressive and crappy.

i got bag sauce in my bag (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link

also seems like maybe the doors just close automatically if you start using the car?

i got bag sauce in my bag (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link

in retrospect maybe tesla’s inclusion of those insane / ludicrous / matricide modes was ill-judged

a promiscuous, flighty art student looking for love (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link

did it make a fart sound while it accelerated?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

would’ve been epic if it did tbf

flappy bird, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

starting to think this guy is sort of an idiot asshole

Ok Elon is no longer a man of culture. pic.twitter.com/QTdoGKL3WW

— Miraculous Maku (Tifa fanboy) (@RedMakuzawa) June 16, 2019

frogbs, Monday, 17 June 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link

thinking that every time elon musk trends on here it's because he invented cold fusion, not because he publicly called someone an "Ass Hat"

— wint (@dril) June 16, 2019

frogbs, Monday, 17 June 2019 14:18 (four years ago) link

I don't know where these tweets are coming from because he very obviously deleted his twitter account

Just deleted my Twitter account

— Daddy DotCom (@elonmusk) June 17, 2019

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, 17 June 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link

something not quite right w this guy

lag∞n, Monday, 17 June 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link

just posting bad memes with my friends

mh, Monday, 17 June 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link

kind of heartbreaking that dude has so much and he’s trying hard to get accepted as an ironic meme guy

mh, Monday, 17 June 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link

"credit the artist"
"no"

lmao

good tweet

lumen (esby), Monday, 17 June 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link

lmao that Elon is reliving his teen shitposting years that were taken away from him, Michael Jackson style

― frogbs, Monday, April 1, 2019 9:01 AM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

frogbs, Monday, 17 June 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link

Michael Jackson style (sus)

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Monday, 17 June 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link

i attended a mandatory jb straubel talk. he came across mostly as a gentle battery powered car hobbyist w/ one hundred million dollars and a crazy buddy named elon.

Cecil replies to your e-mails (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 27 June 2019 17:46 (four years ago) link

every once in awhile, he'd complain about how NHSTA doesn't get it: sideview mirrors shouldn't be required, recall letters shouldn't be required for software updates pushed over the air, etc. and i thought of you guys.

Cecil replies to your e-mails (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 27 June 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link

if somebody was critical of something about automobiles in general, he'd point out how tesla is such a small fraction of the automobile total. this point kind of worked against the idea that they were affecting substantial change in the industry.

Cecil replies to your e-mails (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 27 June 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

lol

Ambient Police (sleeve), Thursday, 27 June 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

t/s: elon musk vs the escobar family

Remember Elon Musk’s “Not a Flamethrower” from last year? Pablo Escobar’s brother Roberto recently launched his own eerily similar product, a device he said looks almost identical because Musk stole the idea from him and then beat him to market.

He told Digital Trends that he expects Musk to pay him $100 million for the idea or else he’ll take Musk to court.

Escobar, brother and former accountant of the infamous drug lord, told us that he made a deal with the Tesla and SpaceX CEO to launch the device under the Tesla umbrella. In exchange, Escobar said Musk was supposed to pay him 20% of the profits.

“Then he changed the name to ‘Not a Flamethrower’ to avoid any type of deal we had,” Escobar, who is also the founder of Escobar Inc., said. Last February, Musk said he changed the name because many customs agencies would not allow him to ship anything labeled “flamethrower.”

“It is very clear that Mr. Musk has done wrong here, we are assuming that he will settle with us at any moment now. Our flamethrower is a far superior product as evidenced by videos that are now going viral, his is simply not cutting it,” Daniel Reitberg, COO of Escobar Inc., told Digital Trends. “That is what happens when you try to copy someone. It looks good, but the functionality is just not there. Some people may think that is small, but imagine what else Mr. Musk may be doing behind the whole world’s back?”

Escobar added that thing Musk isn’t doing is running Tesla well — and he has some business insights to share from Colombia.

“Nobody is using Tesla here,” Escobar said.

“I heard some people in Mexico use it to transport drugs with autopilot,” he added, though he didn’t provide any evidence.

As for what Musk should do about it, “I think Elon needs to clear all of his business issues and take Tesla and his life more seriously,” said Escobar. “But start with sending me $100 million.”

Escobar didn’t provide us with any proof of the deal, but if Musk doesn’t pay up, he’s prepared to take the issue to the courts.

“That 20% is now worth about $2 million,” Escobar said. “However due to his slander, and due to his non-payment, we are requesting $100 million.”

“I do not mind [becoming] the new CEO of Tesla if we win a judgment in the courts,” said Escobar. “I am sure that I could run Tesla into profits.”[/q]

dammit tesla hackers have broken my bbcode :(

that guy is also a crypto currency scammer lol

lag∞n, Friday, 12 July 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link

love the casual introduction of a drug-running conspiracy theory

untuned mass damper (mh), Friday, 12 July 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link

Yeah, that line is Trump-worthy.

nickn, Friday, 12 July 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link

Musk to unveil his neuralink startup next week.

https://www.inverse.com/amp/article/57607-neuralink-elon-musk-s-elusive-brain-computer-firm-just-made-a-big-reveal

DJI, Friday, 12 July 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link

definitely a real thing that will absolutely work

Bring on The Culture!

DJI, Friday, 12 July 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link

Good morning, East Coast! I went to Elon Musk's big Neuralink presentation last night, and it was completely bananas.
Read the startup's white paper (https://t.co/nfNUfinLfm) and my story:https://t.co/wMbRvNqHda

— Rebecca Robbins (@RebeccaDRobbins) July 17, 2019

Number None, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:07 (four years ago) link

he shd test them on himself........in space

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

omg the robot

This is straight-up Bond villainy

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:50 (four years ago) link

OMG THE RAT

what is happening

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:52 (four years ago) link

“Because as I just articulated the primary challenge is how do you tunnel effectively, especially how do you put in the reinforcing segments and get the dirt out effectively – it’s harder than it seems." - elon musk. what a fuckup

— Crewman Number Guy (@Atrios) July 22, 2019


the problem with tunneling, you see, is the tunneling part

— Crewman Number Guy (@Atrios) July 22, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

lol I have literally never heard of this happening with a PV system, that is some shitty electrical contractors they must have been using

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link

not sure who to root for in this one

frogbs, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link

Walmart. There are lots of shitty things about them as a company but they have been pretty ahead-of-the-curve when it comes to sustainability

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

ime they had energy efficiency + renewable generation targets, climate action plans, etc. way before a lot of other similarly-sized companies

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

they’re a relentless machine for tackling optimization problems, regardless of ideological or ethical trappings

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link

In Australia we had a spate of residential PV fires caused by poor quality and poorly installed DC isolators. Water would get in they would short, heat up and catch fire. I’d put a small amount of money on this being the installation contractors fault not the fault of Tesla.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link

if their business proposition is anything like solarcity’s residential one, they *are* the installers or coordinate the installation work

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link

unbelievable

Amazon fire claims add to Tesla’s troubles with PV installs

sleeve, Thursday, 29 August 2019 15:21 (four years ago) link

Rad! Under $10k is more like it.

DJI, Monday, 9 September 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link

100% electric does not solve our problems, but yeah, cars for rich people (currently subsidized in many US states by a wealth transfer to rich people) _definitely_ doesn't solve our problems.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 9 September 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link

My impression is that having as much of the global economy's energy needs supplied by electricity as possible is the most viable path to weaning us off fossil fuels. Personal vehicles as a method of transportation are terrible at efficiency, but getting people to stop loving their cars is going to be massively difficult. By comparison, getting them to adopt EVs will be child's play.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 9 September 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link

getting them to adopt EVs will be child's play.

this is going to happen v fast, with any luck. Given that the average lifespan of a car is 10 years, it's conceivable we see a massive shift within a decade.

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 September 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link

This is pretty good news on that front: https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2019/09/09/teslas-lab-secrets-talking-about-20-year-lithium-ion-battery/

DJI, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 00:09 (four years ago) link

Interesting they mention Sl_lSI partners in that. I’ve met them and they know a lot about finance and a a lot about wishful thinking but stuff all about battery chemistry. Basically they will invest in battery projects that meet their IRR requirements, preferably where someone else is holding the risk.

There are 20 year lithium batteries today. Toshiba Lithium Titanate cells should get you there at a (very high) price. It all comes down to whether the Tesla team can scale that chemistry and electrode structure in a cost effective way. This is probably a when, not if, but when is a long time where battery tech is concerned.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:47 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEmQEKcVAAE3IRl?format=jpg&name=small

mookieproof, Monday, 16 September 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

what a defense!

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 16 September 2019 16:08 (four years ago) link

You don't understand, "Mr Unsworth is a pedo guy" is the name of my dog!

nickn, Monday, 16 September 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link

just some guys he does pranks with

Mitch C. Palace (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 16 September 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link

I see what u did there

Οὖτις, Monday, 16 September 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link

In determining my guilt or innocence the court must consider my frame of reference, which is whatever I say it is, because there is no way to corroborate my assertions.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 16 September 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link

Any Major Afrikaner Will Tell You

... (Eazy), Monday, 16 September 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/elon-musk-unsworth-pedo-guy-deposition-private-investigator

let it be clear that "pedo guy" is a known insult among south african youth and not meant to be taken literally

also, Elon hired some scammer out of the UK who randomly offered to dig up dirt on pedo guy for $50K. he will, unfortunately, not be continuing the investigation as our prospective detective is currently in prison

mh, Friday, 4 October 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link

Elon Musk's deposition in the "pedo guy" defamation lawsuit is one of the most revealing windows into the way Elon Musk's brain works. I don't necessarily encourage you to dive in, but here are some highlights if you're curious: https://t.co/I12CnQWndG

— Aaron W. Gordon (@A_W_Gordon) October 8, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link

He seemed suspicious.

mookieproof, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link

hope musks heart explodes from all the ching some day soon

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link

Here's a great idea! Instead of thoroughly testing this feature, which would probably delay its release for months, if not a year or two, let's just release it and let our customers play around with it using their own vehicles. They'll tell us where are the problems are, then we can fix them!

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 14 October 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link

move fast and dent things

El Tomboto, Monday, 14 October 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link

some of these people just lack the MP

Tart Prepper (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 00:28 (four years ago) link

https://imgur.com/gallery/90y488u

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 06:07 (four years ago) link

nooooooooo

NEWS Giant penis frog didn’t have a giant penis after all (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 06:19 (four years ago) link

that is not safe for life

flappy bird, Thursday, 17 October 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Thousands of pages of internal documents and testimony show that the CEO’s promises about SolarCity were misleading or false.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-13/elon-musk-s-solar-deal-has-become-top-threat-to-tesla-s-future

mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 21:31 (four years ago) link

that shit was obvs so shady

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 November 2019 03:14 (four years ago) link

like hey lets buy this debt ridden other company i own its a great deal weve got uh fuckin solar roof tiles

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 November 2019 03:15 (four years ago) link

dude he shot a car into space

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 November 2019 03:28 (four years ago) link

lol the dude I know who worked at SC and now works at Tesla explained that the SolarCity internal messaging was *very clear* that it wasn't an Elon Musk company, it was a completely unique and independent venture run by his cousin

then Tesla did that shit and the curtain was pulled back

mh, Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link

So far, though, Musk has mostly adopted a defiant (if not irritated) tone at his two depositions. In a back-and-forth with the plaintiffs’ lawyer, whom Musk called “dude,”

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link

When pressed for details on the challenges with the acquisition, Musk called the lawyer “shameful” and a “very, very bad person” for scrutinizing a company that’s trying to change the world for the better.

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link

a ver bad dude

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link

everyone sounding like Trump

mh, Thursday, 14 November 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

destroying astronomy, the night sky now

https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-starlink-satellites-risks-astronomy-space-junk-2019-11

The Pingularity (ledge), Monday, 18 November 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

The world needs fewer big stupid pickups rather than more but this might be the first tesla to actually look interesting.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 22 November 2019 05:05 (four years ago) link

Destroying science so that Musk can call anyone a pedophile anywhere on the globe.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 22 November 2019 05:18 (four years ago) link

whoops

Elon Musk’s glitzy unveiling of the first Tesla “cybertruck” descended into farce when a PR stunt testing the “bulletproof” body strength of the electric vehicle resulted in smashed windows.

The Blade Runner-meets-cyberpunk themed launch of the $39,900 (£30,000) futuristic armoured vehicle was meant to take aim at the traditional Detroit carmakers, proving that Tesla could make a credible electric version of America’s favourite vehicle, the pickup truck.

In a theatrical series of demonstrations hosted by Musk, black-clad Tesla staff attempted to demonstrate the vehicle’s durability with tests involving sledgehammers, a simulation of a 9mm bullet strike and hefty metal balls.

Franz von Holzhausen, Tesla’s chief designer, asked Musk if he could lob a metal ball at the window of the vehicle. “Really?” said Musk. The window smashed. “Oh my fucking God,” said Musk. “Maybe that was a little hard.”

Showing confidence in the vehicle, Von Holzhausen then suggested he should lob it at a second window. “Try that one? Really?” asked Musk moments before the rear window was also smashed. “It didn’t go through, that’s the plus side,” a stunned Musk said.

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/71fe1c4ee2c7b2481a269e7334821449c8ab7ef6/156_54_515_309/master/515.jpg?width=620&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=f1961a5d107b0e958879556d157a05b5

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 22 November 2019 11:19 (four years ago) link

hefty metal balls

mark s, Friday, 22 November 2019 13:41 (four years ago) link

a rival weighs in:

Nobody *expected* the Land Shark either mate and it’s completely bollocks https://t.co/n0sY49WZa9 pic.twitter.com/DMUSf8LUlf

— GrumpySkeletor (@GrumpySkeletor) November 22, 2019

mark s, Friday, 22 November 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link

This is incredible.

Matt DC, Friday, 22 November 2019 13:51 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/y8tWsr4.jpg

frogbs, Friday, 22 November 2019 15:21 (four years ago) link

Whatever its flaws, I love the design of this thing and hope they make it work eventually.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 22 November 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link

that's a deformed Honda Element right there

mh, Friday, 22 November 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link

the haters are dead wrong, you're just not ready for it yet, it's beautiful

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 22 November 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link

I'm into it. idk. Normal pickup trucks are the dumbest looking things on earth. At least this looks like a dumb sci-fi thing. I don't specifically care if you can throw a rock through the window.

☮ (peace, man), Friday, 22 November 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link

I'm into it. idk. Normal pickup trucks are the dumbest looking things on earth. At least this looks like a dumb sci-fi thing. I don't specifically care if you can throw a rock through the window.

― ☮ (peace, man)

look, i try really hard to be a law-abiding citizen, but if i saw one of those things on the street i'd have a hard time _not_ throwing a rock at it

Agnes Motörhead (rushomancy), Friday, 22 November 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link

can we stop acting like this dude is a genius now

frogbs, Friday, 22 November 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link

as my dad would say, "Who's 'we', Gunga Din?"

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 22 November 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link

i mean

did this guy just commit some kind of fraud or is he just an idiot

― frogbs, Tuesday, August 7, 2018 7:46 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

if the first then the second

― mark s, Tuesday, August 7, 2018 7:50 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

mark s, Friday, 22 November 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link

some thoughts:

  • Musk looked like a David Hasslehoff impersonator in that all black outfit
  • the truck looks like a DeLorean draw by a four year old with a set square
  • what happens if you're a pedestrian and you get hit by it?
  • well at least BMW and Lexus SUV drivers won't be the biggest d-bags on the road now

just another country (snoball), Friday, 22 November 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link

I'd love to be somewhere where the BMW and Lexus SUVs are the worst

somehow the worst drivers here are driving suburbans or the fuck-off cadillac version of the same, still

mh, Friday, 22 November 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

ford raptors and their ilk easily the worst

gbx, Friday, 22 November 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link

The proper comparison is the APC from "Aliens:"

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f3/b7/09/f3b709697adb5fce00256d73d0451b2b.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 November 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

xp oh god they made the "badass" pickup not just with a huge engine but giant off-road shit too?

I think I've seen a couple. very bad, never used for practical cargo or tasks

mh, Friday, 22 November 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

lol I looked upthread and briefly thought the Muskrat (that's what it's called, right?) had a built in pool table.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 November 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link

got a sudden urge to play PS1 games

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 November 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

He should do the RoboCop 6000 SUX next.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 November 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link

musk is just so not "a car guy"

lag∞n, Friday, 22 November 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link

A Florida dog put a car into reverse and drove it in circles for nearly an hour https://t.co/UrmKTDZCOh pic.twitter.com/MBWx4rXmLD

— CNN (@CNN) November 22, 2019

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 November 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link

honestly that truck looks cool

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 22 November 2019 19:40 (four years ago) link

yeah, it looks cool

i continue to 1) think elon musk is a sign of everything that is wrong with the world, and 2) hope that he succeeds in making people replace their vehicles with low-poly flatshaded electric vehicles with solar panels on the top

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Friday, 22 November 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link

At best he's going to succeed in getting Trump to go all-in on a Musk military contract.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 November 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link

can't wait to see one of these ugly pieces of shit outfitted with a Punisher and Blue Lives Matter stickers, aggressively tailgating ppl on the freeway

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 November 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link

Cybertruck Nuts.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 November 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link

How are you supposed to roll coal in an electruck tho

El Tomboto, Friday, 22 November 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link

there's a button for that, but instead of undercombusted diesel fuel it spouts vape smoke

mh, Friday, 22 November 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link

xp yeah I also think Musk is a tool and a freak but I also appreciate that he's behind the only US automaker that doesn't seem completely mired in the groupthink stupidity of the US auto industry, both in terms of fuel and just in having to make everything look and seem exactly the same as every other car.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 22 November 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link

tbf that's not just the US auto industry! worldwide, most vehicles look very similar

mh, Friday, 22 November 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link

vehcicle designs are boring as fuck. we've been stuck in the 1980s for my entire fucking life

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Friday, 22 November 2019 20:23 (four years ago) link

making distinction between "US" auto industry and other countries is increasingly meaningless

trucks have been getting more militaristic, this is just an extension of that, like the Ford F150 Black Ops

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 November 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link

his cars suck tho so basically u guys r just applauding dumbass startup thinking

lag∞n, Friday, 22 November 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link

I think Teslas are awesome. Most of them are too expensive for my taste but they're still great cars.

DJI, Friday, 22 November 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link

theyre really not, just completely unrigorous from both a quality and design stand point right down to that amateur logo

lag∞n, Friday, 22 November 2019 21:07 (four years ago) link

yeah tesla and musk suck, i just think this truck looks cool. looks like master chief would drive around in this thing

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 22 November 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link

lol yeah that about the level of thinking that looks like went into it

lag∞n, Friday, 22 November 2019 21:10 (four years ago) link

dang is that a DJ booth opened up on the right side of that Tesla camper.

steve harvey oswald (brownie), Friday, 22 November 2019 21:16 (four years ago) link

i like it better than the other electric trucks proposals though

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Friday, 22 November 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link

who on ilx actually owns a Tesla car or rides in one regularly, please speak up

mh, Friday, 22 November 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link

I used to have a Dyson vacuum, is that close enough?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 November 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link

ditched it when the suction was inferior to your own sucking

mh, Friday, 22 November 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/JSGfODjdev

— LGR (@lazygamereviews) November 22, 2019

just another country (snoball), Friday, 22 November 2019 22:10 (four years ago) link

The Dyson vacuum worked pretty well, actually! It was actually a plastic part that broke, not the vacuum function itself. There seem to be a lot of vacuums that have mimicked it, though, which is ... what will happen with the best Musk advances.

Elon Musk should introduce a personal fragrance. Musk by Elon, maybe.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 November 2019 23:54 (four years ago) link

vehcicle designs are boring as fuck. we've been stuck in the 1980s for my entire fucking life

Well, congrats to Elon Musk for designing a vehicle that literally looks like a prop from Metalstorm: The Destruction Of Jared-Syn (Universal, 1983).

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 23 November 2019 00:07 (four years ago) link

lol this is the ugliest fucking thing

j., Saturday, 23 November 2019 03:06 (four years ago) link

• No room for the gun rack

• All that ramp is is a glorified man-step.

• Put a hi-beam button under my left foot and I'll take two.

pplains, Saturday, 23 November 2019 03:29 (four years ago) link

whoops

Thursday’s unveiling of Tesla’s latest electric vehicle hit a snag when the company’s chief designer smashed the vehicle’s windows while attempting to demonstrate their durability. Tesla’s share price subsequently plummeted 6%, bringing Musk’s personal net worth down by $768m in a single day, according to Forbes.

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 23 November 2019 08:59 (four years ago) link

lol this is the ugliest fucking thing

Nah, that would be the Model X.

One passed me on the road the other day and it was shocking how ugly it was in person.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 23 November 2019 09:07 (four years ago) link

we need ilx’ s resident former Pontiac Aztec owner to weigh in imo

mh, Saturday, 23 November 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link

Looks like it’s designed with the explicit goal of killing pedestrians.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 23 November 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link

My brother has a Tesla. They are kinda cool if you’re the one driving it. Riding in one for 3 hours is incredibly uncomfortable, the interior is just hilariously underthought. They’re stupidly fast though, in a way that makes you a little sick sometimes. I always feel like I’m getting off a roller coaster.

frogbs, Saturday, 23 November 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link

I thought this was a good dissection of the numerous reasons the cybertruck is dumb

https://jalopnik.com/a-deep-look-at-the-design-of-tesla-s-cybertruck-1839993654

El Tomboto, Saturday, 23 November 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

I wonder what John McAfee thinks of this?

just another country (snoball), Saturday, 23 November 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link

The truth of "Dank Minge": pic.twitter.com/L4OMh5mAsB

— John McAfee (@officialmcafee) November 21, 2019

mark s, Saturday, 23 November 2019 16:54 (four years ago) link

He's ordered two already, right?

just another country (snoball), Saturday, 23 November 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link

dank minge was the best star wars extended universe sith lord imo

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 23 November 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link

I kinda welcome more weird ass takes in the horrifically boring and homogenous world of car design, but I can’t imagine driving this thing and not feel like I’m cosplaying.

The full aesthetic error is nailed down by the fact that it’s called the fucking CYBERTRUCK. Jesus.

circa1916, Saturday, 23 November 2019 17:03 (four years ago) link

the thing about design and life is its really all about the details, cars are pretty interesting design objects in that they have a million pieces have to do complex difficult tasks without breaking and have to appeal to as wide an audience as possible, while there are certainly obvious industry trends sitting in a bmw crossover doesnt feel like sitting in a toyota crossover, driving one certainly doesnt, and really while having the same basic shape they look pretty different, and certainly if you owned one youd slowly become deeply personally acquainted w its particular details over time

calling car design homogenous or not changing since the 1980s is prob just due to a lack of interest which then makes observing the details a non starter, which is fine cars a pretty awful in a lot of ways and prob should be banned, but i am pretty skeptical of ppl itt being all wow square truck

the funny thing is elon musk is also all wow square truck, he has no appreciation for the details, hes out there trying to disrupt a huge mature industry containing deep institutional knowledge like hes making an app and it shows

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 November 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link

calling car design homogenous or not changing since the 1980s is prob just due to a lack of interest which then makes observing the details a non starter

true

i made a decision a while back to just start commenting on everything, sometimes it backfires

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 November 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

lmao the commenters code

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 November 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link

my personal least fave current car trend (besides wagons being replaced by shoe looking crossovers!) is angry eye headlights, car looks like its mad at u, it fn ruined the once pleasantly neutral northern euro audi aesthetic

https://d3lp4xedbqa8a5.cloudfront.net/imagegen/max/ccr/860/-/s3/digital-cougar-assets/traderspecs/2019/02/04/Misc/Audi-A4-Wagon-2019-1.jpg

https://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/audi/allroad-quattro/2005/oem/2005_audi_allroad-quattro_wagon_base_fq_oem_1_500.jpg

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 November 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link

on the plus side i am openminded person and will be ready to openly embrace the forthcoming triangle car because i believe it will ultimately lead to the line car, and then finally the point car. or the circle car. maybe one of the consequences of spiraling complexity in the world is the appearance of simplicity (the more points that an equilateral shape has, the more it resembles a circle).

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 November 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link

fwiw there are prob more left field designs on the market now than there have been in a while, everyone just wants a crossover tho

https://s.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/640x400/quality/80/https://s.aolcdn.com/commerce/autodata/images/90TOGES1.jpg

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 November 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

^^ ooh, i like that one! a few too many polys but it's getting there

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 November 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link

https://miro.medium.com/max/2652/1*uEe9rvbQB8XM6uYWT_6vng.jpeg

tbf it is hard to argue w the utility of these things, drives/etc like a car while being halfway to the interior/head/storage space of a truck

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 November 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link

a tall friend of my w bad knees who drives a crossover told me hes never hunkering down to get into a car again which is fair

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 November 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link

think i like the mercedes vers out of all of those, lil more boxy like a truck, doesnt have a weird elongated front end

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 November 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

mods, lagoon just posted 23 of the same image, pls fix or replace w/ cybertrucks

imago, Saturday, 23 November 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

The Dyson vacuum worked pretty well, actually! It was actually a plastic part that broke, not the vacuum function itself. There seem to be a lot of vacuums that have mimicked it, though, which is ... what will happen with the best Musk advances.

Dyson is another dick - what a suprise, eh? Pro-Brexit wanker.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 November 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

the volvo is so weirdly slanted i dont like it (tho i did drive one and it fucking shredded and was huge inside so the experience was actually pretty great even if it looks like its about to pounce on you)

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 November 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link

mods, lagoon just posted 23 of the same image

would be a good poll, although one is clearly superior to the rest

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 November 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link

pretty obvious if you take a few seconds to examine each one

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 November 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link

Oh no pic.twitter.com/RLDfmAxMUe

— Jon Christian.info (@Jon_Christian) November 22, 2019

mark s, Saturday, 23 November 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 November 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link

lol

pomenitul, Saturday, 23 November 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link

feel like the volvo s90 is a good example of a car that cld be easy to criticize as samey but is really low key pretty original, the fancy picture doesnt do justice to how monstrous it is, i saw one covered in dust in a parking lot off a dirt road and it was huge and scary, its basically a euro muscle car

https://i.imgur.com/uGYPAFl.png

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 November 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link

also the way the rear end is styled almost like a hatchback is pretty unusual

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 November 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

shd be noted too that new cars are so good from an experience pov driving/comfort/safety etc, my dad has a new tundra and i drove it around the icy backroads of vermont and it was so good, for you city slickers icy dirt roads are by far the most challenging on road driving configuration there is, anyway the tundra just breezed along handles like a car but w the power of a truck, plus its got all the fancy lil features like auto dimming brights, it sees cars coming toward you from very far away and dims your headlights relieving you of a very annoying job, i want that car even if the grill looks dumb

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 November 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link

lagoon doing good work itt, appreciating it

circa1916, Saturday, 23 November 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

courtesy flashing of the brights to u

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 November 2019 18:58 (four years ago) link

hes out there trying to disrupt a huge mature industry containing deep institutional knowledge like hes making an app and it shows

― lag∞n, Saturday, November 23, 2019 10:33 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm

anyway i want a tacoma because i am a boring stereotype thx

gbx, Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link

they do rule as vehicles tbf

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link

its true

gbx, Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link

This is stunning stuff. TESLA tried to have a whistleblower SWATTED, arrested & placed on a mental health hold in retaliation for him going to journalists with safety violations. Bravo to this police officer for documenting the entire interaction in writing https://t.co/OOsBdBRN6s

— Ali Winston (@awinston) November 23, 2019

mark s, Saturday, 23 November 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link

corporate scum

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 November 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link

that station wagons with rear-facing seats in the back are a thing of the past is yet another sign of how corrupted our culture is

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Saturday, 23 November 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link

seriously

how do kids today tie action figures onto a spool of fishing line and let them drag far behind on the highway, occasionally reeling them back in to see how warped and deformed they are?

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 23 November 2019 22:27 (four years ago) link

^for some reason my parents were cool with this

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 23 November 2019 22:27 (four years ago) link

lagoon doing good work itt, appreciating it


x2ed

This thread is reminding me of why I take solace in Jalopnik almost every day, despite generally caring very little about cars and motorsport. I’ve got to tead something that doesn’t make me angry or sad and cars and trucks often fit that bill perfectly

El Tomboto, Sunday, 24 November 2019 00:22 (four years ago) link

We lease a Chevy Bolt EV and we love how peppy and quiet and easy to park it is. I think once major car manufacturers start responding to the demand signal for EVs, Tesla could very well be toast.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 24 November 2019 00:28 (four years ago) link

(the chevy dealerships in the DC/MD/VA area can’t keep Bolts on the lot - EVs are incredibly desirable cars, it’s just a matter of manufacturing capacity and charging infrastructure being brought into line with how much people want them)

El Tomboto, Sunday, 24 November 2019 00:31 (four years ago) link

electric cars are neato

elon musk needs to evade this threadjack and invent a glider imo

imago, Sunday, 24 November 2019 00:32 (four years ago) link

re: crossovers, I got my mom into a Kia Soul to ditch her shitty Chevy something lease deal and it's kind of the perfect car (aside from having to get used to the nature of a dual clutch transmission moving from idle). Enthusiasts bemoan their downsides over car-cars but how many people are driving in such a way that they notice any added body roll?

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Sunday, 24 November 2019 00:46 (four years ago) link

I think once major car manufacturers start responding to the demand signal for EVs, Tesla could very well be toast.

― El Tomboto, Saturday, November 23, 2019 7:28 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm

lag∞n, Sunday, 24 November 2019 03:03 (four years ago) link

^^^ a friend had a Renault Zoe as a loan car for a couple of weeks. First EV I've seen that was basically a regular car, also although it was expensive, the price was "only" a few thousand more than a high end Clio.

just another country (snoball), Sunday, 24 November 2019 11:21 (four years ago) link

My last couple of cars have been leased, the lease is about to end on my (diesel) Ford Fiesta and I've been seriously considering an EV, though as I rely on on-street parking I'm not convinced I'll be able to keep it charged (I do about 300 miles a week). Would get a PHEV but that'd need even more regular access to a charging point, so I may cop out and go for a "self charging" hybrid.

michaellambert, Sunday, 24 November 2019 11:56 (four years ago) link

my friend who covers FormulaE for a living and can bore for the olympics on recent breakthroughs in battery and recharge development (paradoxically given its frivolous rich-kid ambience it's where a lot of the current high-end EV R&D is happening) is *enormously* scornful of TESLA in general and musk in particular

mark s, Sunday, 24 November 2019 12:22 (four years ago) link

There's a certain weird mix of insecurity and arrogant d-baggery in some Tesla drivers. Your faithful correspondent snoball was walking about the town earlier, when I happened to see a Tesla come out of a junction on to a main road. It appeared to 'stall' (do Teslas even stall?), and in a show of defiant overcompensation, the driver engaged Super Pursuit Mode or whatever it's called and roared off along the street. Or rather whined off down the street because no exhaust note.

just another country (snoball), Sunday, 24 November 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link

Saw this just last week.

Don't get me wrong – the Subaru driver was at fault and "lost the fight" as soon as he went aggro. But.

The Tesla driver did jump into that middle lane PDQ without so much as a turn signal. And how that first sub-head is "Don’t these guys learn Teslas have TeslaCam?" does lend itself that the arrogant stereotype does have some basis.

pplains, Sunday, 24 November 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link

The twitter thread above about the whistleblower is scary. Also is it coincidental that the truck press conference on the same day buried this news coming out?

I am using your worlds, Sunday, 24 November 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link

hahaha how did I miss this

SpaceX Starship blows its top at Boca Chica

Book Doula (sleeve), Monday, 25 November 2019 00:27 (four years ago) link

though as I rely on on-street parking I'm not convinced I'll be able to keep it charged

i had a teacher once who was a fairly early EV adopter, well before there were ever charging stations around and before there was much in the way of norms around charging, and i think he got into low-stakes criminal jeopardy by cadging charge from some city power source or something

j., Monday, 25 November 2019 00:34 (four years ago) link

that swatting story is nuts, even more nuts that no one's gonna be charged for it

frogbs, Monday, 25 November 2019 04:05 (four years ago) link

I think the plan to install charging stations at my workplace was cancelled :/

I did have the right electrical service run to my newly-built garage a few years back just in case, though

So what's the over-under on Elon himself being the one behind the swatting?

mh, Monday, 25 November 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link

my be informative to see the square truck w some actual paint on it

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKOIbAPXkAg0Stl?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Monday, 25 November 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link

haha

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 25 November 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link

a visual metaphor of grimes

$1,000,000 or 1 bag of honeycrisp apples (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 25 November 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link

honda e

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKIzSNxW4AIxXfz?format=jpg&name=medium

not sure why the companies feel the need to make their e cars look electric but its kinda cute i guess

lag∞n, Monday, 25 November 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link

the bmw i3 goes to far in this regard imho, i dont think id want to drive around in this thing

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71RJhz0+kYL._UY560_.jpg

lag∞n, Monday, 25 November 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link

audi a3 plugin hybrid is nice and looks like a normal car

https://images.hgmsites.net/hug/audi-a3_100551445_h.jpg

if i were getting a new car i might like one of these except that its too short to sleep in so idk

lag∞n, Monday, 25 November 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link

in the future, it will be coolest for your e car to look like the ford explorer eddie bauer edition

$1,000,000 or 1 bag of honeycrisp apples (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 25 November 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link

more apparel companies shd do editions its fun imo

lag∞n, Monday, 25 November 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

mazda 3n, geoffrey beene

$1,000,000 or 1 bag of honeycrisp apples (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 25 November 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link

j. crew saturn VUE

$1,000,000 or 1 bag of honeycrisp apples (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 25 November 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link

i kinda love the look of the honda e -- shame we won't be getting it in the US

gbx, Monday, 25 November 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link

just noticed it has a camera instead of a side mirror

lag∞n, Monday, 25 November 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link

Straubel said it couldn't be done. or maybe they've changed the laws.

$1,000,000 or 1 bag of honeycrisp apples (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 25 November 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

aren't vehicles designed to crumple for crash safety? will this crumple? I don't get designing a truck around being damage-resistant.

wasdnuos (abanana), Monday, 25 November 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

that truck is never getting released my guess

lag∞n, Monday, 25 November 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link

looks prefolded to me

mark s, Monday, 25 November 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link

the whole "this can withstand a sledge hammer" angle is so incredibly dumb, how is that a legit concern for anyone who isn't living in a crazy fantasy world

frogbs, Monday, 25 November 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

a crazy fantasy world where cars bang into hard objects or even each other

$1,000,000 or 1 bag of honeycrisp apples (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 25 November 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link

but this is Tesla we're talking, any small dent to the frame is gonna cause the entire thing to be totaled anyway

frogbs, Monday, 25 November 2019 19:33 (four years ago) link

I've been a passenger in a BMW i3. The interior isn't as far out as the exterior, but it is very basic for such an expensive car. Also look at how narrow the wheels are.

just another country (snoball), Monday, 25 November 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link

how is that a legit concern for anyone who isn't living in a crazy fantasy world

They could make the bodyshell lighter, then it'd have more range and a better power:weight ratio through not having to heft all that unnecessary weight around.
Although try GISing 'Tornado Intercept Vehicle'. Maybe someone could convince Elon Musk and John McAfee that the ultimate macho totally-in-no-way-overcompensating-for-something-no-sir stunt would be to drive a Cybertruck into a tornado while blasting Kenny Loggins' 'Danger Zone'.

just another country (snoball), Monday, 25 November 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link

aren't vehicles designed to crumple for crash safety? will this crumple? I don't get designing a truck around being damage-resistant.

― wasdnuos (abanana), Tuesday, November 26, 2019 5:59 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is classified as a light truck so doesn’t have the same crash safety requirements as a car.

As for electric cars is general - I had a Hyundai ioniq for work last week and this is potentially the Tesla killer. Nothing remarkable about it really it’s a family hatch back but it’s Au$15k less than the cheapest Tesla, much better put together from what I’ve seen, is quick like any electric and will pretty much drive itself when you turn on cruise control, following the lane and the car in front.

Whatever else you think about Hyundai they really know how to build a good quality car to a price. Part of this is having electric, hybrid and petrol versions of the same car to drive scale economies on everything that isn’t the electric drive train.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 25 November 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link

of course that Audi A3 hatchback hybrid isn't in the US

stop denying the USA the hatchbacks, car companies! we don't all want crossovers wtf

mh, Monday, 25 November 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link

and yes I am a nerd with a hybrid hatchback even if it is a jumped-up lexus-branded prius

mh, Monday, 25 November 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

Some ways, we're lucky that Zuckerberg isn't charismatic and that the president is a dumb ass and Elon Musk has all the subtlety of his silly cybertruck when it comes to swatting somebody.

But that's three guys. It's the dudes you don't hear about that scare me.

pplains, Monday, 25 November 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link

Larry Ellison, now that guy is a complete shithead and probably richer

mh, Monday, 25 November 2019 20:43 (four years ago) link

The other thing about this Hyundai is that it happily trundled around, in 35 degree heat and the AC on high)all day at between 11 and 12kWh/100km. Tesla’s are very heavy cars and can’t get close . Model 3 is around 16kWh/100km and the X and the S are in the 20s.

That big battery with all that range you need once in a blue moon costs energy and money to haul around. The Hyundai gets way more range out of a smaller battery and costs a lot less to run. Hyundai are, very quietly, getting really good at this electric car game.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 25 November 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

of course that Audi A3 hatchback hybrid isn't in the US

stop denying the USA the hatchbacks, car companies! we don't all want crossovers wtf

I drove an A3 hatchback in Italy this summer. I loved it and would consider buying one if they still made them here.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Monday, 25 November 2019 22:07 (four years ago) link

Let’s do this


Just got to the courthouse for the first day of the Elon Musk defamation trial. He’s expected to take the stand today for the first time ever to defend himself against a British man he called a “pedo guy” on Twitter. Here are the cameras waiting for him.

This is my day 1 thread. pic.twitter.com/07y4Hlg6Ba

— Ryan Mac 🙃 (@RMac18) December 3, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link

whyyy didnt he settle this guy is so dumb and crazed

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link

he doesnt get enough attention??

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link

for people who need attention there's never enough attention

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link

there's not a maximum amount of attention you can have, at any time there's a risk someone isn't aware of you

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link

people who are willing to settle for extremely negative attention kinda blow my mind

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link

Oh to be the person who could go up to Elon Musk and genuinely say "So, what do you do for a living?"

just another country (snoball), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link

I hope he defends himself and his first question to the guy on the stand is "So how long have you not been a pedo?"

pplains, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

Looks like he won his court case.

The guy he libelled was a moron to sue in the US, even if the potential damages were higher.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Friday, 6 December 2019 22:51 (four years ago) link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50695593

Billionaire Mr Musk told the court this week the phrase "pedo guy" was common in South Africa, where he grew up.

just another country (snoball), Friday, 6 December 2019 23:01 (four years ago) link

lol christ. juries amirite pic.twitter.com/pSjL5ak7wh

— flglmn (@flglmn) December 6, 2019

Amazing.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Friday, 6 December 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link

Elon Musk Hits Traffic Pylon With New Cybertruck After Dinner in Malibu.

https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-hits-traffic-pylon-with-new-cybertruck-after-1840307783

nickn, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 02:17 (four years ago) link

The Cybertruck doesn’t appear to have basic safety features yet like side mirrors and window wipers


Cool! Glad to know it’s out there cruising around!

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 03:09 (four years ago) link

the “pylon” is a no right turn sign that he runs over while making a left turn

insecurity bear (sic), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 03:16 (four years ago) link

“left on red” is a legal turn in California if your net worth is over $1b

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 03:22 (four years ago) link

Jobs never registered his cars

$1,000,000 or 1 bag of honeycrisp apples (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 03:48 (four years ago) link

meanwhile

https://i.imgur.com/hnseSSD.png?1

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Saturday, 21 December 2019 03:51 (four years ago) link

The stock market is more fake than ever

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Saturday, 21 December 2019 05:51 (four years ago) link

big grain of salt because ars technica seems to worship tesla

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2019/12/tesla-stock-just-hit-a-new-record-of-400-heres-one-reason-why/

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Saturday, 21 December 2019 05:53 (four years ago) link

Tesla has also refined its motors over time to squeeze out a bit more power and range from a given amount of battery power. Those innovations may not be easy for rivals to replicate.

This is utter horseshit. I’ve driven a lot of electric cars in the last 6 month and the Teslas are the absolute worst from an efficiency perspective. Too bloody heavy. Hyundai is really good at this.

Driving an ioniq around in high heat and the aircon on high I can easily get 12kWh/100km it’s hard to get the Model 3 under 18kWh/100km. The teslas are too heavy and arguably the batteries are too big for what is really needed.

Tesla will do well though, especially next year, especially in the us, all the other manufacturers will be diverting their electric cars to Europe so they can meet emissions standards. A lot of that free cash will come from tesla selling emissions credits to other manufacturers.

Good article in the FT on that.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 21 December 2019 09:07 (four years ago) link

As expected, 69% want car tunnels! Stop whining, subway Stalinists, the people have spoken … pic.twitter.com/g8GBvjDdvK

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 28, 2019

mookieproof, Saturday, 28 December 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

dis guy sux

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link

I’m a subway Stalinist

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Saturday, 28 December 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link

amazing that this complete dimwit managed to convince so many people that he’s smart

hot nuts (small) (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 28 December 2019 18:26 (four years ago) link

*tips hat*

subway Stalinist (sleeve), Saturday, 28 December 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

He is a dangerously stupid man


Induced demand is one of the most irrational theories I’ve ever heard. Correlation is not causation. If the transport system exceeds public travel needs, there will be very little traffic. I support anything that improves traffic, as this negatively affects almost everyone.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 29, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 29 December 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link

manufacture an electric bus, Elon!

babu frik fan account (mh), Sunday, 29 December 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

Electric buses present a range of engineering challenges, some unsolved (such as ascending steep hills) so it’s not really in Musk’s wheelhouse.

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Sunday, 29 December 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link

I don't even want to know what kind of little ambient tones he'd add on to them anyway.

pplains, Sunday, 29 December 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link

*Synthesizer fart noises from ''Ferris Bueller's Day Off''*

"Oh good. My airport shuttle is here."

pplains, Sunday, 29 December 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2ap8k_Xjks

lag∞n, Sunday, 29 December 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

^^ Where I was going with that.

pplains, Sunday, 29 December 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link

the organisms wouldn't spread to the entire planet would they? can't imagine they would be able to go that far on Mars.

💠 (crüt), Thursday, 2 January 2020 14:38 (four years ago) link

If an organism can survive on an unpopulated (ie no predators) planet at all then they would likely spread vey quickly.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 January 2020 14:56 (four years ago) link

can they thrive at temperatures averaging -60°C tho

💠 (crüt), Thursday, 2 January 2020 15:02 (four years ago) link

i don't know much about microbiology i'm just curious

💠 (crüt), Thursday, 2 January 2020 15:03 (four years ago) link

well I imagine if they could survive a trip through space then Mars would be a doddle...

Number None, Thursday, 2 January 2020 15:31 (four years ago) link

curt, my point is they either spread very quickly (in geological terms) in a predator-free environment, or they immediately cease to exist because the environment is otherwise inhospitable. there's not a middle ground where only a bit of mars is only a bit contaminated. which is why being very, very careful is appropriate.

btw there's some theories about how life or its ingredients might get between planets that are on the more speculative end of microbiology, but they're not completely out of the question https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 January 2020 18:33 (four years ago) link

sorry mars is already infected with earth micro organisms from when i took a shit in space

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 January 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link

btw theres a good hippie drug theory that psychedelic shroom spores were sent through space as a message from aliens

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 January 2020 18:38 (four years ago) link

well, yeah

terence mckenna otm about both that and also the apocalypse on december 21 2012

hot nuts (small) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 January 2020 18:42 (four years ago) link

machine elves of the 4th dimension bro

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 January 2020 18:49 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuKnxueWwwM

mark s, Thursday, 2 January 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Grimes has created social media accounts for her unborn baby with Elon Musk under the handle @WarNymph. What's more, the accounts include a clip of the 3D baby speaking directly into the camera about the impending apocalypse: https://t.co/gauUvCtMJj #WarNymph #Grimes pic.twitter.com/uVuytvQtte

— Consequence of Sound (@consequence) January 22, 2020

mark s, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 18:24 (four years ago) link

WAR NYMPH

mark s, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 18:24 (four years ago) link

yeah think I might be done thinking about either of these people

Clay, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 18:25 (four years ago) link

need to know the precise multi drug cocktail these ppl are into

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 18:27 (four years ago) link

end times, shaken, served up with a dash of messiah

The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 18:28 (four years ago) link

i think i like the idea of what she's doing, if it were done in a simulated world. the problem is that we're still here on earth

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 18:44 (four years ago) link

its been done

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fVQtmMN_ao

frogbs, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 18:45 (four years ago) link

I mean yiiit's been

frogbs, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 18:45 (four years ago) link

woww

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 18:52 (four years ago) link

ok I thought this thing was a money incinerator why has the stock price tripled

frogbs, Thursday, 30 January 2020 00:12 (four years ago) link

investors are dumb idk

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 January 2020 00:15 (four years ago) link

well over 600 now, sheesh guys

frogbs, Thursday, 30 January 2020 15:05 (four years ago) link

Q4 report looks pretty strong to me. They had a string of stumbles in the first half of 2019, but seem to have righted the ship.

o. nate, Thursday, 30 January 2020 15:33 (four years ago) link

no strong quarter justifies pricing tesla like volkswagen

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 January 2020 16:08 (four years ago) link

not even thinking tesla is the next volkswagen justifies it lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 January 2020 16:09 (four years ago) link

When you include debt VW is worth more than 2 times Tesla. I agree with your point though.

o. nate, Thursday, 30 January 2020 16:27 (four years ago) link

tbf they could be the next VW

I mean, the somewhat recent VW that was faking test results and got slapped down hard for it

babu frik fan account (mh), Thursday, 30 January 2020 16:32 (four years ago) link

This thread is full of people who doubt Elon's vibe.

https://soundcloud.com/user-209448905/dont-doubt-ur-vibe

I wrote the lyrics & performed the vocals!!

— E “D” M (@elonmusk) January 31, 2020

☮️ (peace, man), Friday, 31 January 2020 14:01 (four years ago) link

10 seconds in all I can think of is this

https://soundcloud.com/timheidecker/drk-mt-btl-20

frogbs, Friday, 31 January 2020 14:22 (four years ago) link

just gonna leave this here

https://i.imgur.com/PwzIyks.png

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 31 January 2020 15:50 (four years ago) link

I glanced at my phone at the moment a comment marker saying "This song is terrible" scrolled by lol

babu frik fan account (mh), Friday, 31 January 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link

was kind of doubting my vibe this morning tbh but now i have decided not to doubt my vibe.

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Friday, 31 January 2020 16:18 (four years ago) link

dont doubt u r vibe

lag∞n, Friday, 31 January 2020 16:28 (four years ago) link

mods pls move this thread to ILM

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Friday, 31 January 2020 17:05 (four years ago) link

sorry, this is my fault, literally six hours beforehand I posted in a group chat about the existence of elon musk's "rip harambe" so clearly I jinxed the universe

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 31 January 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link

Well I guess I am finally changing my dn

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Saturday, 1 February 2020 02:03 (four years ago) link

mods pls move this thread to ILM

― warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open)

Lmao shit I didn't see this when I posted

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Saturday, 1 February 2020 02:03 (four years ago) link

TSLA blowing up.

o. nate, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 15:51 (four years ago) link

inverse ilx fund would do well

zuck zuck lucify (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 16:36 (four years ago) link

200 to 1000 on no news. Cool.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:55 (four years ago) link

Far out!

What if there was an AI programmed to want to pick as many strawberries as possible, and so it cultivated nothing but strawberries on all of Earth’s land? Then it would be Strawberry Fields Forever!

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 6, 2020

Alba, Thursday, 6 February 2020 11:35 (four years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/XgyGXUEnnH

— Cynic Metalhead🛡 (@GrumpyAmb) February 6, 2020

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 6 February 2020 11:41 (four years ago) link

reading his tweets = microdosing stupidity

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 6 February 2020 11:43 (four years ago) link

200 to 1000 on no news. Cool.

and now down to 700. the fact that this is acting less like a stock and more like bitcoin seems like not the best sign

frogbs, Thursday, 6 February 2020 20:23 (four years ago) link

well yeah

$btc 2017 vs TSLA. Wow. pic.twitter.com/beehVilkrv

— Michael Novogratz (@novogratz) February 3, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 6 February 2020 20:58 (four years ago) link

hahaha

let's talk about gecs baby (sleeve), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:01 (four years ago) link

bubbles be bubblin'

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link

yeah, stocks did this long before bitcoin, which is basically a crime ETF

zuck zuck lucify (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:47 (four years ago) link

that chart is apparently not very different to amazon in 1999, and well, it was a bubble but it was also a good investment. the trick is spotting the difference i guess.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:57 (four years ago) link

wish someone could teach me that trick. also the trick where your amazon stock makes 15% and you somehow don't sell it immediately.

zuck zuck lucify (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:59 (four years ago) link

i will teach you for $99

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 6 February 2020 22:03 (four years ago) link

is there a guy that tries to sell you classes about making money with bitcoin that wears a suit with bitcoin symbols on it yet?

zuck zuck lucify (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 6 February 2020 22:08 (four years ago) link

that's a poorly formed sentence, but i'm talking about a bitcoin matthew lesko.

zuck zuck lucify (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 6 February 2020 22:10 (four years ago) link

pretty sure matthew lesko has an ilx connection but i can't remember what it is

mookieproof, Thursday, 6 February 2020 22:20 (four years ago) link

Company is full of jerks

https://jalopnik.com/tesla-remotely-removes-autopilot-features-from-customer-1841472617

El Tomboto, Friday, 7 February 2020 13:22 (four years ago) link

that chart is apparently not very different to amazon in 1999, and well, it was a bubble but it was also a good investment. the trick is spotting the difference i guess.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek)

the trick is convincing yourself there is a difference that can be perceived by sufficiently informed people, and that you're genuinely smarter than those other investors and not just fucking lucky

you know my name, look up the number of the beast (rushomancy), Friday, 7 February 2020 13:44 (four years ago) link

four weeks pass...

yessssss

The coronavirus panic is dumb

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 6, 2020

mookieproof, Friday, 6 March 2020 21:09 (four years ago) link

michael_jackson_popcorn.gif

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:20 (four years ago) link

I hate this asshole

college bong rip guy (silby), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:27 (four years ago) link

We will make ventilators if there is a shortage

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 19, 2020

Anyone wanna bet he’s not gonna make any ventilators

frogbs, Thursday, 19 March 2020 04:06 (four years ago) link

maybe get a start on that now bud, before the shortage hits hmm

Clay, Thursday, 19 March 2020 04:13 (four years ago) link

Seriously getting upset at the thought of this asshole trying to inject himself into the narrative

frogbs, Thursday, 19 March 2020 04:14 (four years ago) link

Elon Musk has never met the process for getting FDA approval of medical devices.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 19 March 2020 04:15 (four years ago) link

he will send boxes of short shorts to hospitals with a note that says "i heard there is a shortage"

latin hypercube in shitspace (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 19 March 2020 04:26 (four years ago) link

He will make 2 ventilator prototypes and claim a promise has been fulfilled

Karl Malone, Thursday, 19 March 2020 04:26 (four years ago) link

You doubters. Bet he's adding vents to the sides of all his submarines as we speak.

pplains, Thursday, 19 March 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link

guessing these ventilators are going to wind up killing the patients as soon as the cell service goes off

frogbs, Thursday, 19 March 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link

Must be hard for him to realise he’s not needed. Again. Though ironically his one car per mile tunnel might be the solution needed.

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Thursday, 19 March 2020 17:11 (four years ago) link

sounds like our hero picked up some cpap machines wholesale

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 April 2020 01:55 (four years ago) link

if you slap a Tesla sticker on, cpap becomes a ventilator? blah

mh, Thursday, 2 April 2020 04:00 (four years ago) link

at least elon isn't 'known for his signature cowboy hat' i guess

At Kimbal Musk's restaurants workers were told community mattered, that they were family. They contributed money out of their paychecks to an emergency fund for workers. Then COVID happened, and the family fund was suddenly unavailable. Read: https://t.co/YTyQdTX7Mi

— Emily Peck (@EmilyRPeck) April 7, 2020

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 21:44 (four years ago) link

This fuckin guy

Fetchboy, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 04:30 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

getting nervous that this prediction may not in fact turn out to be true

Based on current trends, probably close to zero new cases in US too by end of April

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 19, 2020

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link

FREE AMERICA NOW

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) April 29, 2020

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link

jesus this relentless dullard

mark s, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link

FREE BTC NOW. TO PARTICIPATE SEND 1 BTC TO ELOONMU✧✧✧@A✧✧.C✧✧.

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link

FREE GRIMES N...EVERMIND, YOU CAN HAVE HER

🔫 (peace, man), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link

AM CONSIDERING FREEING AMERICA NOW. FUNDING SECURED.

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

$420 per american

silby, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link

My gf @Grimezsz is mad at me

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 1, 2020

Number None, Friday, 1 May 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

My gf @Grimezsz is mad at me

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 1, 2020

Number None, Friday, 1 May 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

gah, that was meant to be this tweet

I am selling almost all physical possessions. Will own no house.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 1, 2020

anyway, he's on one

Number None, Friday, 1 May 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

i wonder if his gf grimezsz got mad at him before or after he decided to sell almost all of his physical possessions and own no house

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 May 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link

I would like to see a Musk-less Tesla in the same way we now have a Charney-less American Apparel. I realize that they aren't the same kind of awful, but still.

🔫 (peace, man), Friday, 1 May 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link

a Musk-less Tesla would probably still not be very good at manufacturing cars tho nu?

silby, Friday, 1 May 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

oh I see he's a corona skeptic.

to be fair to him he's clearly high on uppers all the time and probably doesn't get much sleep so that can't be that great for cognition

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Friday, 1 May 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link

Also clearly a born dipshit tbfttl

Microbes oft teem (wins), Friday, 1 May 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link

I furiously judge anyone who ever liked this guy

fuck it (Left), Friday, 1 May 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

would probably still not be very good at manufacturing cars tho

I don't know about this. I've been pretty impressed by the Tesla when I've been in one as a passenger.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 1 May 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link

i've never liked this fuckhole

genital giant (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 May 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

yea Teslas are pretty impressive though they're annoying for a lot of reasons and the interior design is pretty fucking awful

worth mentioning that Tesla existed before Elon bought it (and erased the real founder from memory) and almost certainly would be delivering a higher quality product without him

frogbs, Friday, 1 May 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link

Musk brought in silicon valley principles like "not trying very hard"

silby, Friday, 1 May 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

from building a useless contraption that provided no benefit to saving those people trapped in the mine, bragging about it and saying "what have you done?" to some internet rando, to this, to his weird sporadic Twitter meltdowns....

genital giant (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 May 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link

I'm assuming he came through with flying colors on his ventilator promise though, yes?

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Friday, 1 May 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

I would like to see a Musk-less Tesla in the same way we now have a Charney-less American Apparel. I realize that they aren't the same kind of awful, but still.

― 🔫 (peace, man), Friday, May 1, 2020 1:11 PM (fifty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

gotta think well see this eventually one way or another guys like him tend not to stick around, unless he manages to just totally drive the whole business under, but even then youd think one of the big companies wld want to scoop tesla up

lag∞n, Friday, 1 May 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link

I'm old enough to remember when market manipulation like this would earn you a perp-walk into federal custody.

Tesla stock price is too high imo

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 1, 2020

ref: https://www.sec.gov/fast-answers/answerstmanipulhtm.html

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 1 May 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

the last time he tried this, he only had write a check for $20M and step down as chairman of TSLA:

https://money.cnn.com/2018/09/29/technology/business/elon-musk-tesla-sec-settlement/index.html

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 1 May 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link

I don't know about this. I've been pretty impressed by the Tesla when I've been in one as a passenger.

― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, May 1, 2020 1:24 PM (forty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the big issue with them is they have a lot of defects and build quality issues, which is something you wld expect from a young quick growing company, where the big boys are mature and put a ton of effort into limiting stuff like a glove compartment handle snapping off on a six month old car, and tesla has of course been accused of juicing their stats on this sort of stuff

theyre in an interesting spot as theyve produced expensive novelty second cars for rich people their entire existence and are now trying to switch to making cars that people who only own one car can buy, its a huge lift and its gonna be hard for them to get it right all the manufacturing stuff theyve been fucking up on both quality and efficiency levels will just be amplified by trying to make more cars and selling them to people who are really depending on them

lag∞n, Friday, 1 May 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

Nothing to see here just Elon Musk embracing the support of a climate change-denying Infowars loon as well as noted shit peddler James O’Keefe pic.twitter.com/VUDulpo0FO

— Sean O'Kane (@sokane1) May 1, 2020

mookieproof, Friday, 1 May 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

the biggest thing id give tesla credit for is recognizing the performances advantages that electric vehicles have and leaning into that, because an electric engine immediately delivers max torque the model 3 can accelerate like a nice bmw for half the cost, where the rest of the industry has been making dinky nerd electric cars even bmw lol, undoubtably that tech will change the performance segment of the whole damn industry before too long, theyre also way out in front as far as how they do the computery stuff always pushing new features in updates, and that youd think will also become industry standard too

so they def have innovated meaningfully but i but i have a hard time seeing them being logistically sound enough to really scale up, getting bought out by a company who already knows how to make cars good seems like the most likely path forward

lag∞n, Friday, 1 May 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link

or those companies could just make tesla like cars tho they dont seem to really want to prob cause it represents such a small % of the industry, but on the other hand theres not a car company on earth that hasnt given lip service to electric being the future, mercedes even said theyre going to stop doing r&d on gas engines which is pretty wild

lag∞n, Friday, 1 May 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

porsche the drivers car of drivers cars even has an ev now that everyone hates

lag∞n, Friday, 1 May 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

so tesla might have to actually compete at some point...

lag∞n, Friday, 1 May 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

but sales of evs just havent gotten to the point thats forcing the big players to actually take them very seriously

lag∞n, Friday, 1 May 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link

if he weren't evil scum I might find it sympathetic and relatable that he appears to fully lose his mind once every few months

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 1 May 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link

lol true

lag∞n, Friday, 1 May 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link

gotta think well see this eventually one way or another guys like him tend not to stick around, unless he manages to just totally drive the whole business under, but even then youd think one of the big companies wld want to scoop tesla up


Which one? Isn’t Tesla’s (insane) market cap bigger than all the US manufacturers?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 1 May 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

for now

silby, Friday, 1 May 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link

if they manage to maintain that condition i will respectfully doff me cap to mr elon

lag∞n, Friday, 1 May 2020 19:00 (three years ago) link

Need all roads converted to giant Qi charging pads before electric becomes adoptable by renters and people in apartments

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 1 May 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

yeah

lag∞n, Friday, 1 May 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link

is tesla stock gets to the point where a car manufacturer could afford to acquire the company, that will be because it's going out of business.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 1 May 2020 21:48 (three years ago) link

damn, wonder if anyone's considered shorting it?

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 1 May 2020 21:51 (three years ago) link

Need all roads converted to giant Qi charging pads before electric becomes adoptable by renters and people in apartments

― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 2 May 2020 5:19 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I’m building a DC fast charging network at the moment and this isn’t true. It’s like going to the petrol station except you plug it in for 20 minutes and go and have a coffee or buy some groceries or whatever you want to do while it charges.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 1 May 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link

lol at Elon twitter stans being torn pretty evenly between "clearly he's been hacked" and "idiots don't get his jokes"

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 1 May 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link

we need a lottery ticket that takes 20 minutes to scratch

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 1 May 2020 21:56 (three years ago) link

his stans also think he *invented* Paypal from scratch

genital giant (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 May 2020 22:05 (three years ago) link

PayPal also sucked and was (is I guess, thankfully I never have to use it anymore when paying online) bad.

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Friday, 1 May 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link

I go to a gas station once a week at most for 5 minutes, I don’t think it’s feasible for people to put in 20 minutes several times a week in terms of adopting electric.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 1 May 2020 22:33 (three years ago) link

If you can’t charge in the place where you park every night I don’t think most people would buy an electric.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 1 May 2020 22:34 (three years ago) link

we have a lot of charging stations here but that wasn't the case 5 years ago.

genital giant (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 May 2020 22:34 (three years ago) link

People are notorious for letting their car get down to fumes because that five minutes at a gas station, which can be found everywhere, is a hassle.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 1 May 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link

lagoon turning into a car guy has been a good low key ilx subplot

lol it's true

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 May 2020 22:50 (three years ago) link

The point is with DC fast charging is it won’t necessarily be at petrol stations it will be at stores and restaurants and you’ll get enough charge for the week in minutes not hours whilst you do what you do.

The first generation of AC was pretty useless when installed at grocery stores because you can’t get a meaningful charge in the time it takes to do your shop. With DC you’ll be full by the time you come out. And full will be several hundred kilometres.

Interestingly we have some data from a municipal DC fast charge network in California and by far the most used charger is the one in the food coop parking lot and the session data looks a lot like people dropping in for a weekly shop and a weekly charge (along with some ride-share drivers dropping in daily).

It’s obviously super convenient if you can charge at home but in large parts of the world it’s not necessary.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 1 May 2020 22:58 (three years ago) link

Yea charging stations I've seen are usually in parking lots

genital giant (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 May 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link

is tesla stock gets to the point where a car manufacturer could afford to acquire the company, that will be because it's going out of business.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, May 1, 2020 5:48 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

thats what i said! tho also the stock price cld just come down to earth

lag∞n, Saturday, 2 May 2020 00:04 (three years ago) link

I get the sense Tesla stock is probably more like Bitcoin than a traditional stock

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 2 May 2020 00:11 (three years ago) link

Muskcoin

genital giant (Neanderthal), Saturday, 2 May 2020 00:12 (three years ago) link

the stock market just went up by 13% in a month when 30 million people filed for unemployment, the whole market is like dicecoin

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Saturday, 2 May 2020 00:16 (three years ago) link

lmaoooo

wow, May Day fucking rules this year pic.twitter.com/263oQ6OgHv

— Janus Rose, Post-Apocalyptic Delivery Dyke (@zenalbatross) May 1, 2020

frogbs, Saturday, 2 May 2020 00:23 (three years ago) link

How much for some anime Bitcoin? pic.twitter.com/itqRslFNcb

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 1, 2020

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 2 May 2020 00:25 (three years ago) link

nuke the internet imo

genital giant (Neanderthal), Saturday, 2 May 2020 01:03 (three years ago) link

second head in the basket

mookieproof, Saturday, 2 May 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

the baby is due today lol https://t.co/GMCXRO5hXZ

— Silvia Killingsworth (@silviakillings) May 4, 2020

lag∞n, Monday, 4 May 2020 15:40 (three years ago) link

sick of grimes gold digging

lag∞n, Monday, 4 May 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link

listened to the new record and he heard a single

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 May 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link

The future was wide open.

🔫 (peace, man), Monday, 4 May 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link

His tesla chassis had loose parts that would jingle

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 May 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

maybe we should look back at what he was doing the last few times he had children. as in, lots of children per pregnancy, iirc

mh, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 01:30 (three years ago) link

IVF tho

Elon's musk (sic), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 04:01 (three years ago) link

i don't wanna think of Elon cumming thx

genital giant (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 04:03 (three years ago) link

which naturally he was probably doing to a .jpg of himself

genital giant (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 04:03 (three years ago) link

I meant maybe he’s gone bonkers for a while each time he‘a become a dad

maybe the effect is cumulative

mh, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link

im crying pic.twitter.com/YRIdEmpiuw

— allie (@juulgod50) May 5, 2020

Number None, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 08:23 (three years ago) link

That exchange sure doesn’t bode well for them. They should have just named the kid Shared Custody.

Kim, Friday, 8 May 2020 12:25 (three years ago) link

Tesla is actually a meatpacking plant.

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Sunday, 10 May 2020 00:37 (three years ago) link

Nobody's mentioned the kids name, which is just going to mean a lifetime of getting red * next to text input boxes.

koogs, Sunday, 10 May 2020 03:39 (three years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/5VTE2qrnCa

— Seth Simons (@sasimons) May 10, 2020

Elon's musk (sic), Sunday, 10 May 2020 08:14 (three years ago) link

lmao what the fuck is this guy's problem

Tesla is restarting production today against Alameda County rules. I will be on the line with everyone else. If anyone is arrested, I ask that it only be me.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 11, 2020

frogbs, Monday, 11 May 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link

that's not how solidarity works, elon

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 May 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link

less than a week at home with the baby and he just wants to go back to work

mh, Monday, 11 May 2020 21:31 (three years ago) link

please god, let me get away from my newborn for just a day so i can get coronavirus and spread it

porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 May 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

Tesla worker to me just now: "he NEVER works the line, he stares awkwardly at someone doing their job until they are very uncomfortable, then he walks away.”

From another: "When he says on the line he just means walking around every so often to make sure everyone sees him.”

— Sean O'Kane (@sokane1) May 11, 2020

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 11 May 2020 21:35 (three years ago) link

never met a PR stunt he didn't like.

genital giant (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 May 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link

didn't catch that he changed the newborn's name to "a PR stunt he didn't like" but at least it's more honest

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 11 May 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link

I hope a pallet of Tesla batteries falls on this fuck and slowly crushes him in front of his employees, while they golf clap him into the afterlife.

Pissed Jeans Genie C. Riley (PBKR), Monday, 11 May 2020 22:16 (three years ago) link

he's like The Wolf of Wall Street, except more like the Pissant of Palo Alto

genital giant (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 May 2020 22:18 (three years ago) link

“If anyone is arrested, I ask that it only be me,”

Yes please I would like to support elon in this request

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 01:29 (three years ago) link

Really trying to get out of childcare duties

silby, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 03:11 (three years ago) link

if i must lose custody of my newborn in the name of the continuation of capitalist activities at any human cost, so be it

porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 03:19 (three years ago) link

Arrest Elon. Send everyone else home. Set the fine at the maximum amount. Jail him for second offense. Deny bail at the third offense.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 04:31 (three years ago) link

fun thread:

i mention this a lot, but the tweets always seem to mysteriously get buried. a reminder elon musk is *not* the founder of tesla nor of its technologies. he bought his way in & forced the founders to sign contracts to name him a co-founder, then proceeded to kick them out. https://t.co/dxpigQq7RW

— se asian oakland enby || balance: very limited (@WellsLucasSanto) May 11, 2020

Elon's musk (sic), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 11:38 (three years ago) link

Is this the pedo guy? That just what we call guys like this growing up where I did— “pedo guys”.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 11:49 (three years ago) link

https://sethsimons.substack.com/p/this-is-not-a-practice-run

this is a good response to musk's ignorance about coronavirus. he really is a moron and rogan is dangerously credulous.

can any engineers of ilx speak to his engineering chops? is he just a business guy cosplaying as a science guy?

treeship., Tuesday, 12 May 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

lol

Musk was ousted in October 2000 from his role as CEO (although he remained on the board) due to disagreements with other company executives over his desire to move PayPal's Unix-based infrastructure to Microsoft Windows

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link

i found that looking at his wiki trying to figure out if he can engineer, he studied business and physics at penn then started an internet company, if i had to guess hes a business guy who has a technical style brain and a science education, which would mean hes prob able to understand the technical side of the business conceptually but couldnt really do the actual specialized work of calculating how a car crumples and so forth, thats my guess, welcome to my guess

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link

did he ever in his internet startup days write code? idk

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link

im sure he could figure out how to write a lil code if he needed to, is he an expert programmer? almost certainly not, hes a business guy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link

that's my impression too. but rogan et al seem to think he is designing the tesla batteries and working out the technical challenges in colonizing mars lol

treeship., Tuesday, 12 May 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link

thanks for doing some research lagoon

treeship., Tuesday, 12 May 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link

love ta wiki baby

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 13:53 (three years ago) link

its funny ppl want him to be some genius engineer he already has a job they watchin too much ironman movie

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link

'The Long View' on Radio 4 is this programme that compares an historical event or figure with one from the present day and seeks to point out how similar they are. This week was isambard kingdom brunel and elon musk, the first 3 mins was some railway fellow giving the background of brunel and what an innovative engineer he was, his background on the railways and the idea of an atmospheric railway and what a pioneer he was etc. Then the presenter lists elon musk's accomplishments paypal etc then goes something like "so isambard kingdom brunel giant of the railways and cutting edge engineer back then and elon musk groundbreaking engineer now" only for the technology contributor also on the program to cut in with "elon musk isn't an engineer, he left after 2 days of classes" lol

― oscar bravo, Thursday, 31 January 2019 17:06 (one year ago) link

oscar bravo, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:00 (three years ago) link

yeah, i mean, i knew that his reputation as an engineer was inflated. i just wanted to know if there was any truth to it at all -- he describes himself as an "engineer"

treeship., Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link

yeah hes not an engineer

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:04 (three years ago) link

In 1995, Musk commenced a PhD in energy physics/materials science at Stanford University in California. Eager to pursue opportunities in the Internet boom, however, he dropped out after just two days to launch his first company, Zip2 Corporation.

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:05 (three years ago) link

and as for his reputation as a maverick libertarian his entire business is built on government subsidies

Elon Musk needs the government. https://t.co/GXnfgsqCQi pic.twitter.com/63GAv8iqE1

— Matt Pearce 🦅 (@mattdpearce) May 12, 2020

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

thats not the only one thats helped him theres also tax rebates that electric car buyers get and im sure some other programs too

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link

Elon dropping out of a Stanford PhD program after 2 days doesn't really indicate anything.

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link

Here’s an email Musk sent to Tesla factory workers at 12:55 AM highlighting the “extremely honorable” task of making electric cars during the county’s shelter in place order. Email has been confirmed by two sources. pic.twitter.com/K1MmUmim6g

— Ryan Mac 🙃 (@RMac18) May 12, 2020

mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link

i found that looking at his wiki trying to figure out if he can engineer, he studied business and physics at penn then started an internet company, if i had to guess hes a business guy who has a technical style brain and a science education, which would mean hes prob able to understand the technical side of the business conceptually but couldnt really do the actual specialized work of calculating how a car crumples and so forth, thats my guess, welcome to my guess

Based on current trends, probably close to zero new cases in US too by end of April

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 19, 2020

porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link

lmaooo at the last sentence of that email

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link

i'm on record in this thread, i think, saying that i think elon musk is a smart man. just want to say that in the spirit of honest re-evaluation

porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:54 (three years ago) link

California should let Tesla & @elonmusk open the plant, NOW. It can be done Fast & Safely!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 12, 2020

lmaooo

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link

and as for his reputation as a maverick libertarian his entire business is built on government subsidies

But don't let Musk's annoying persona make you forget those subsidies were good and should be continued and if anything enlarged!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link

i mean theyre good but its still cars

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

says the low-key car guy

mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

i like cars but recognize that they are bad policy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

What car u got lagoon?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link

i dont even have any car rn

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

i want an audi s3 thoooooooo

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

lagoon are you gonna miss camp this summer? ;_;

silby, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

Elon dropping out of a Stanford PhD program after 2 days doesn't really indicate anything.

― Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:48 AM (one hour ago)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't it indicate he lacks the professional certification of being an engineer? e.g., his membership in IEEE is honorary

dip to dup (rob), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

prob gonna miss everything this summer world done closed

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link

We have a lease that ends in about 18 months lb got the lease (rather than owning) in the hope mainstream EVs would be ready around then. You couldn’t pay me to drive a Tesla. Looking at the Kia Niro and soul tbh https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a26144426/2019-kia-niro-ev-driven/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/05/another-competent-korean-car-the-kia-niro-ev-reviewed/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link

Wait what are you leasing caek? My teenager desperately wants us to get a Tesla and I am keen on an EV but don't know the landscape.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link

I'll admit that you had to have some follow-through and good business skills to get the clients going, but his first venture was pretty low-hanging fruit as far as early web companies go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip2
he probably hustled his ass off! then his second venture in payments was a more complicated thing as far as liability and infrastructure goes, but before they go too big the payments company merged with paypal

I sometimes shake my head and wonder why I didn't jump into that type of thing at the time, but the answer is pretty much that I was in my late teens and incredibly risk-adverse and anxious. so pretty much like the 3/4ths of my peers that were really internet-savvy but not doing this stuff

fwiw I am completely unqualified to run Tesla having run no businesses, but just as qualified as Elon when it comes to weighing in on a number of things

mh, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link

I rented a Kia Soul once and it was a completely acceptable car, not overdesigned and just did what cars should. It was the base model and had surprisingly bad fuel mileage and was kind of noisy, though

mh, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link

Elon dropping out of a Stanford PhD program after 2 days doesn't really indicate anything.

― Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:48 AM (one hour ago)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't it indicate he lacks the professional certification of being an engineer? e.g., his membership in IEEE is honorary

― dip to dup (rob), Tuesday, May 12, 2020 9:29 AM (forty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink


not many engineers get a certification such as a PE, unless they are going to work on civil projects. he certainly could have been hired as an engineer with his BS in physics. I like the IEEE but wouldn't put much stock in someone's membership, i.e. from their website:

Professional membership is open to individuals who by experience give evidence of competence in an IEEE designated field. The designated fields are: Engineering, Computer Sciences and Information Technology, Physical Sciences, Biological and Medical Sciences, Mathematics, Technical Communications, Education, Management, and Law and Policy.

so I think he qualifies. IEEE membership is a bit like a museum membership. It generally just gives you access to some resources for learning or networking within the field.

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

they also relentlessly mail shit to you, physically and electronically, until you die and probably after you die as well

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

can any engineers of ilx speak to his engineering chops? is he just a business guy cosplaying as a science guy?

“I’m naturally good at engineering that’s because I inherited it from my father,” Musk says. “What’s very difficult for others is easy for me. For a while, I thought things were so obvious that everyone must know this.”

Like what kinds of things?

“Well, like how the wiring in a house works. And a circuit breaker, and alternating current and direct current, what amps and volts were, how to mix a fuel and oxidizers to create an explosive. I thought everyone knew this.”

(Rolling Stone)

pplains, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

thanks, Sufjan, I was probably overly influenced by my father-in-law being a civil engineer and assumed other fields were similarly strict

dip to dup (rob), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link

Musk will likely be remembered as one of the most seminal figures of this millennium

it's true, he does have 7 kids

dip to dup (rob), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

I assume this RS profile is discussed upthread because it is hilariously overwrought

dip to dup (rob), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

the "inherited" bit is dumb, but there was a group of kids in engineering/physics undergrad with "did projects with a technically skilled parent" chops. they generally did very well in school. comfort and familiarity with ideas and concepts is a huge boost to understanding, as is the confidence that comes along with that head start. it usually came with a privileged background. Elon likely doing some myth building in that quote. anyway, nobody can be so broadly qualified to justify his tony stark routine. I'm sure his chops won't live up to the myth he sells to the public and investors.

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

sticking with the PhD probably would have humbled him!

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

the content machine needs ppl like musk and steve job then people read the content and buy the stock

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link

it also helps with recruiting. people think working for elon musk means something because they know of his asshole antics.

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link

I wonder if Elon Musk knows how a toilet works.

pplains, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

I can answer that for you: it comes very easy to him. he inherited knowledge of the toilet from his dad. valves. seal rings. floats. he thought other people knew this stuff? now will you please write the 60 million dollar check for his brain cable company?

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link

He engineered an alternative way to remove waste from his body

genital giant (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

he founded twitter?

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

courted grimes?

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

which punchline are we searching for here?

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

He's starting a Mars COLONy

dip to dup (rob), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

The punchline is the queue of Americans waiting to bank the motherfucker in the jaw

genital giant (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

Wait what are you leasing caek? My teenager desperately wants us to get a Tesla and I am keen on an EV but don't know the landscape.


We’re leasing a forester. Car seats were destroying my lower back so I wanted an suv, and they weren’t any electric ones when we were on the market, so I figured renting a car for three years wasn’t crazy in that situation.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link

it also helps with recruiting. people think working for elon musk means something because they know of his asshole antics.


I’ve been approached by spacex recruiters. Working for his companies is notoriously one of the worst jobs in tech. Terrible work/life, not great pay, abusive management, etc. It’s like working for amazon as an engineer but the pay is worse.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link

yes, I don't see many engineers with previous work experience falling for it. But I imagine it's big for the poor lads that do work there.

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link

I think my friend is still in software development at one of these places and should check in

I think he was doing some internal apps last I checked and nothing production specific so it was less drama overall

mh, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

hey caek: we got a Kia Soul last fall (they had just started rolling out the 2020s), base model, and love it. Part of it might be that it’s our first new car, but really it’s a charming and useful machine in many ways.

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 01:22 (three years ago) link

why don’t you drive an EV?

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link

drama in the musksphere today

I wrote something on @ElectrekCo that is sure to be controversial but that's not the goal. I truly think that @elonmusk's feedback loop has been corrupted - resulting in some questionable actions. You can disagree but my criticism comes from place of love https://t.co/H8pOXsZzZ1

— Fred Lambert (@FredericLambert) May 12, 2020

background

In light of the ongoing Tesla Fandom circular firing squad, I thought I would share this story again and add that in spite of all this I actually prefer Fred and Electrek to the up-and-comers who are helping bring his adventure to its inevitable conclusion https://t.co/1dbc09XSvW

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) May 13, 2020

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link

who are the musk superfans

engineers, libertarians, SETI users, apartheid fans, environmentalists, incels, vc's, pedo guys?

mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:07 (three years ago) link

forgot 'guys who have a john galt reference on their license plates'

mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:08 (three years ago) link

space colonizers, grimes superfans

porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:13 (three years ago) link

people who think elon musk builds the cars

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:15 (three years ago) link

apple superfans in search of a new home

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:15 (three years ago) link

reddit posters

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link

that guy freds writing def has the weird manic superfan tone, its wild people wld willingly read that shit

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:18 (three years ago) link

a lot of idiots who are like "oh that guy seems smart"

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:18 (three years ago) link

feel like dudes who make things in their garage that they don't really need to make are at least musk-curious

Clay, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:52 (three years ago) link

I kinda feel like painting the entire www.instructables.com community as musky is casting too wide a net.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:58 (three years ago) link

think it's mostly teenagers

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 03:00 (three years ago) link

Older dudes who like to tinker and have a rain gauge in their backyard.

pplains, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 03:07 (three years ago) link

Richard Heene

genital giant (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 03:08 (three years ago) link

My son is a teenager and finds Musk intriguing. It’s kind of heartbreaking and I don’t have it in me to tell him what I think.

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 03:10 (three years ago) link

lmaoo

My legacy is probably going to be carpal tunnel in my right arm from doing the jerk-off motion for 12 consecutive hours while weirdos with "Entrepreneur / crypto" in their bios pile into my replies to gush about Elon Musk. https://t.co/AopXgiVmPe

— Ken Jennings (@KenJennings) May 12, 2020

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 03:46 (three years ago) link

King

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 03:50 (three years ago) link

local hero Ken Jennings

silby, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 03:59 (three years ago) link

he's more likely to get tennis elbow from that tho

silby, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 03:59 (three years ago) link

depends on how you learned to do it

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 04:29 (three years ago) link

or how you inherited said knowledge from your dad.

pplains, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link

Looks like Tesla is being sued over early touchscreen failure in Model S and X. This might be a good time to revisit my story about those screens, some of the reasons they fail, and why no other automaker has 17 inch screens in their vehicles https://t.co/ZnaN8mRQ9o https://t.co/e8SCZLakhP

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) May 14, 2020

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 May 2020 00:52 (three years ago) link

I will never ever stop laughing about Elon Musk stealing an image from Buca de Beppo so he could fake eating out during a pandemic while he has a newborn at home pic.twitter.com/jWDoiGYzX5

— Molly Shah (@MollyOShah) May 13, 2020

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 May 2020 01:16 (three years ago) link

lmao

call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 May 2020 01:20 (three years ago) link

this is the guy many people think is the worlds #1 genius lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 May 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link

his defenders are saying he didn't literally meant he went to Buca to eat that Sunday even though he p clearly implies that in his follow-up posts.

genital giant (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 May 2020 01:33 (three years ago) link

see i wldve gone with he was just havin a laugh

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 May 2020 01:34 (three years ago) link

there is a massive closed and abandoned buca de beppo in my town which everyone hates b/c no one is taking care of the building so it has an extra layer for me

call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 May 2020 01:39 (three years ago) link

this is hilarious

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 14 May 2020 02:37 (three years ago) link

I thought he was referencing jail and scorsese

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 14 May 2020 02:56 (three years ago) link

Listening to neon neon and tried to explain delorean as like musk, thought i was being all crazy insightful lol, but thread was on it. years ago. btw that album is still fun.

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Thursday, 14 May 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link

delorean actually was very good at making cars to begin with tho, no? just not when he branched out alone

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 14 May 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link

i told my kid that my recall was that he was trying some different design stuff (didnt the car have different sized wheels or something?) not to mention facilities location. You’re right tho he was at least a car guy making cars.

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Thursday, 14 May 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link

first you monsters deny elon the title of 'engineer'. now you would take away 'car guy'? And after previously awarding that title to a poster that admits to not even owning a car!

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 14 May 2020 21:10 (three years ago) link

Well said! Please run for office. The politicians & unelected bureaucrats who stole our liberty should be tarred, feathered & thrown out of town!

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 15, 2020

so I had a short stint at a small stealth-mode cybersecurity startup once. my boss told me he had heard from one of the Y Combinator founders at a party that Elon Musk believed in Bostrom's simulation argument, but with one small amendment: that he, Elon Musk, was Real

— biz malarkey🌹 (@uhshanti) May 7, 2018

mookieproof, Friday, 15 May 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link

there is a massive closed and abandoned buca de beppo in my town which everyone hates b/c no one is taking care of the building so it has an extra layer for me

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, May 13, 2020 8:39 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

You probably ought to check whether Elon Musk is hiding out in there

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 15 May 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link

oh good pic.twitter.com/CBigbC8ffE

— Cynical Bathtub (@cynical_bathtub) May 17, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link

I love that these conspiracy nuts still overwhelmingly like to adopt the hip lingo of a 20+ year old movie and haven't found anything else to latch onto in recent years

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Sunday, 17 May 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link

nothing else has utilized the duster as effectively

lag∞n, Sunday, 17 May 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link

funny thing is if there was ever a pill you could take to go under and live in a dream world and have lots of money and sex these would be the first people to sign up for that shit

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Sunday, 17 May 2020 19:07 (three years ago) link

*morpheus voice* in a sense thats what theyre doing

lag∞n, Sunday, 17 May 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link

delorean actually was very good at making cars to begin with tho, no? just not when he branched out alone

Yeah, because he was an idea guy at Pontiac, which was GM's 'engineering' division where a lot of concepts got tried out first (mid-size performance cars, rubber bumpers, hidden wipers, optic cable radio antennas inside windshields etc.), and things started downhill for when he was promoted to the more conservative Chevrolet.

After he broke loose, his own company had a lot of problems getting started (among other things, coming along after a number of similar other failed 'performance/safety car' startups littered throughout the 70s didn't help), and when production finally began, they made the mistake of using underpowered Renault engines.

And then, yeah, cocaine...

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 17 May 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

Fuck both of you

— Lilly Wachowski (@lilly_wachowski) May 17, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 17 May 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link

nice

lag∞n, Sunday, 17 May 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link

<3

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Sunday, 17 May 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link

This is Grimes' mom. Thanksgiving is going to be fun. pic.twitter.com/7i3oLnzvrO

— Ryan Mac 🙃 (@RMac18) May 17, 2020

peace, man, Monday, 18 May 2020 01:46 (three years ago) link

everything seems normal

lag∞n, Monday, 18 May 2020 01:48 (three years ago) link

still don’t understand why he included the rose emoji with that post

Dan S, Monday, 18 May 2020 01:53 (three years ago) link

He self identifies as Tuxedo Mask

Fetchboy, Monday, 18 May 2020 05:48 (three years ago) link

the red pill is actually democratic socialism

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 May 2020 07:50 (three years ago) link

Funny thing about Grimes's mom is that she was a Tesla-owning Elon Musk fangirl well before her daughter started dating him.

jaymc, Monday, 18 May 2020 12:59 (three years ago) link

sounds like she has been red pilled since then.. about elon musk

mh, Monday, 18 May 2020 13:40 (three years ago) link

its sad when your enthusiasm for a luxury electric vehicle brand is marred by your daughter having the child of its psycho ceo

lag∞n, Monday, 18 May 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link

the classic tragedy

DJP, Monday, 18 May 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

elonmusk @ coronavirus

imago, Monday, 18 May 2020 14:25 (three years ago) link

and its more famous prequel, elonmusk space x

imago, Monday, 18 May 2020 14:25 (three years ago) link

This is a thread about what it’s like to be Elon Musk’s neighbor.

— Rachel Monroe (@rachmonroe) May 21, 2020

Bleeqwot (sic), Friday, 22 May 2020 07:48 (three years ago) link

brutal

lag∞n, Friday, 22 May 2020 13:16 (three years ago) link

these fucking people

So do you want him to personally apologize for being the only person really making strides to make the world a better place? And actually executing ideas? Cool keep up the good work

— Noya (@NoyaOfficial) May 21, 2020

Saving hmanity is worth the inconvenience.

— Jub 🖖🧢 ☂️ (@hjub) May 22, 2020

mookieproof, Friday, 22 May 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link

the cartoon in that string ha

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 May 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link

Musk said that he told Behnken and Hurley's kids: "We've done everything we can to make sure your dads come back."

— Miriam Kramer (@mirikramer) May 27, 2020

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link

as trump told the widow of a dead special forces soldier, 'he knew what he signed up for'

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

"we'll see what happens"

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

"there's always the AZ-5"

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link

Saved by the weather, lucky bastards

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link

Musk looks like a face transplant recipient. I don't know if it's the Michael Jackson stubble or what.

Sam Weller, Thursday, 28 May 2020 08:22 (three years ago) link

he and zuck def rolled straight outta the uncanny valley

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:34 (three years ago) link

^ yes. They look like video game representations of themselves.

calstars, Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link

idk what Zuck's excuse is but Elon's definitely had a ton of implants put into his face so that he can look good from precisely one angle

frogbs, Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:41 (three years ago) link

Uncanny Valley, CA
Pop. 2

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

zuckerberg clearly some sort of not quite human inter dimensional traveler

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link

boom

The SpaceX Starship rocket prototype SN4 exploded after an engine test this afternoon in Texas.

Credit: @LabPadre livestream https://t.co/aPJknKdl6M pic.twitter.com/gXKWTH0VLn

— Michael Sheetz (@thesheetztweetz) May 29, 2020

lag∞n, Friday, 29 May 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link

imagine being the astronauts waiting on their rescheduled launch

frogbs, Friday, 29 May 2020 20:03 (three years ago) link

meteors did it

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 May 2020 20:03 (three years ago) link

Seems sad and wrong this is like the only thread mentioning NASA sending astronauts into space. But not as sad as the FB correspondent rocking the weird NASA Members Only jacket complete with mock epaulets in front of all the wood grain top “engineering desks.” This is not the spaceage timeline i hoped for.

stay safe and whole astronauts.

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Saturday, 30 May 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link

i guess there's this somewhat arcanely named thread also: DSKY-DSKY Him Sad: Official ILB Thread For The Heroic Age of Manned Spaceflight

mark s, Saturday, 30 May 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link

Shh!

Ernani and the Professor (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 May 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

Congratulations to the Astronauts that left Earth today. Good choice

— Andy Milonakis (@andymilonakis) May 30, 2020

Ste, Sunday, 31 May 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/CgiuE9aL52

— No Context Russia (@Russia_NC) June 1, 2020

lag∞n, Monday, 1 June 2020 10:37 (three years ago) link

congratulations elon musk on catching up w soviet russia 60 years ago

plax (ico), Monday, 1 June 2020 11:13 (three years ago) link

Good luck finding a charging outlet in the middle of the ocean, genius.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 June 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link

jesus what is the pitch and roll on that drone boat, that sea looks pretty busy. i'm kinda like, 'is that real?'

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Monday, 1 June 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

but let's compare with the video of soviet russia doing it 60 years ago.

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 1 June 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

oops

🚨🚨🚨
Tesla Model 3 plows info overturned truck on highway. I’m sure the driver was paying complete attention to the road and wasn’t relying on autopilot because he was told the car could drive itself....$TSLAQ pic.twitter.com/cHjueqH0j4

— hand washing rooster 🐓 (@jsin86524368) June 1, 2020

lag∞n, Monday, 1 June 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link

did he died

||||||||, Monday, 1 June 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link

every human being in that video seems like a bad driver

Karl Malone, Monday, 1 June 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

not even injured xp https://insideevs.com/news/426312/video-tesla-crash-stopped-truck

lag∞n, Monday, 1 June 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

good cars confirmed

||||||||, Monday, 1 June 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

it seems the Autopilot system has some issues in detecting stationary objects

details, details

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 1 June 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link

All cars are bad

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 June 2020 20:02 (three years ago) link

On the plus side, there was no gas tank to burst into flames.

nickn, Monday, 1 June 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link

the autopilot knew he'd survive and learn something important about trusting autopilot -- a lesson that could save his life someday.

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 1 June 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link

or perhaps the autopilot ai takes twitter input and made a different optimization that failed

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 1 June 2020 21:56 (three years ago) link

i’m so thoroughly pissed at this reality and the “i’m sure x” OP, and also aware of the difference, that i wanna throw up my hands and answer “i hope it happens to you.” to be sure i really don’t, but ftw.

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Monday, 1 June 2020 22:51 (three years ago) link

and by OP i mean the twunt, not lagoon tbc.

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Monday, 1 June 2020 22:52 (three years ago) link

it wld never happen to me the autopilot looks out for me

lag∞n, Monday, 1 June 2020 23:13 (three years ago) link

a visionary:

This will probably get me into trouble, but I feel I have to say it

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 6, 2020

dip to dup (rob), Saturday, 6 June 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

what a brave stance

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 6 June 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

a man of real genius

mookieproof, Saturday, 6 June 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link

Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave

fatuous salad (symsymsym), Saturday, 6 June 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link

who knows but im saluting like crazy

lag∞n, Saturday, 6 June 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

i know we've already done this tweet but honestly

https://t.co/PHzxi55xuE https://t.co/Xq5bsUxLPx pic.twitter.com/rSY2aGqWoI

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) July 2, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 July 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link

Talk about ahead of the curve...

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 July 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link

at least richard epstein has stopped running his mouth on twitter

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 July 2020 21:03 (three years ago) link

I remember thinking to myself the first time one of youse posted the article about people stocking up on supplies that "come on, we're just prepping for the worst, it won't be anywhere near as bad as we fear".

this is one of those rare times where it exceeded our imaginations.

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 July 2020 03:06 (three years ago) link

at least richard epstein doesn't have fanboys harassing anyone who questions his idiocy

mookieproof, Friday, 3 July 2020 03:11 (three years ago) link

Well there’s still plenty of stuff to buy is the good news.

all cats are beautiful (silby), Friday, 3 July 2020 03:19 (three years ago) link

Good replies to this tweet from the “pedo guy” guy

Please take a moment to report accounts clearly engaged in harassment. It is the only way to maintain public discourse.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 4, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 4 July 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

Fair play that’s a high stock price

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 13 July 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link

what the fuck how did it quadruple since the start of the pandemic

frogbs, Monday, 13 July 2020 15:46 (three years ago) link

he tells the stock market what he thinks their price should be and they comply and this is somehow ok

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 July 2020 15:50 (three years ago) link

a major tesla accounting scandal seems very much in play

lag∞n, Monday, 13 July 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link

i honestly think it's just robinhood/reddit/andrew yang people who are bored because there's no sports to bet on

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 13 July 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

Almost 40,000 Robinhood users added Tesla to their accounts over a four-hour span on Monday https://t.co/cfGHBQjAzL

— Bloomberg (@business) July 14, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 02:57 (three years ago) link

gonna need yerac to talk me down from opening a margin account to bet against these guys

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 05:00 (three years ago) link

gambling’s dumb

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 05:05 (three years ago) link

No doubt

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 05:07 (three years ago) link

it will happen, but you don't know when

the warm seafood salad that exists (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 05:10 (three years ago) link

gambling is especially dumb when the other side is powered by hubris not reality.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 05:37 (three years ago) link

hard to bet into a guy who doesn't even know he's bluffing

Clay, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 05:46 (three years ago) link

silby i think u shd do it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

(keeping in mind that u can losing infinite money shorting)

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

robinhood stores your money is stored in a signed 16 bit int so it actually goes positive after a while

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

Oh nice

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link

I did try to short Tesla once, but you couldn't borrow the shares, so I bought a put instead. It took a little dip and I got nervous and sold it for a small profit. Then it dipped more and I felt dumb. Then it bounced higher again and I felt lucky. The nice thing about buying a put is your downside is limited, but unlike shorting, there's a time limit on the bet.

o. nate, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 01:11 (three years ago) link

the stock market in general seems to have not absorbed the info that were in the early stages of the worst economic crisis ever

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link

tbf neither has pretty much anyone else. even before the pandemic we'd reached a crisis of capital where too many goods were chasing too few dollars, searching the globe for investment opportunities and just inventing them from whole cloth if necessary, and now demand has dropped off a cliff. millions of jobs aren't coming back. we're still running on a short-term stimulus package and furlough supports that will all go away really soon, and the same is true for most of the world. it's a zombie economy and i'm not sure it's too dramatic to say it's a zombie society

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link

it is absolutely a zombie society

carin' (map), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link

the zombie apocalypse is us

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

lol

Population collapse is 2nd biggest danger to civilization after AI imo

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 15, 2020

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link

now he's Anti-Spielberg?

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link

I added a friend of friends who recently joined a zoom game night call on facebook only to find out she’s a Tesla cheerleader :(

solo scampito (mh), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

T-E-S-L-A
YOU DON'T NEED NO GAS TODAY
YOU 'LECTRIC

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 15:40 (three years ago) link

That's why he's got seven kids so far? Or is this how he announces number 8?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link

Elon approaching tech bro Jack Handy

circa1916, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:01 (three years ago) link

wait back up he has seven kids?

sleeve, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:44 (three years ago) link

that he knows of ;)

bat ain't Thad (sic), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link

7 is the solution to his last kid

lumen (esby), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 23:14 (three years ago) link

Well, six. His first one died as a baby, then he had twins and triplets with his first wife. So his baby with Grimes is his seventh kid, though six survive.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

death of his child is hes said what inspired him to save the world... by making cars

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 July 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link

ah yes cars, that thing we need more of

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link

More cars or more babies is kind of a toss-up.

pplains, Thursday, 16 July 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link

just like in olden times, he had a lot of kids so they could help him work on the electric car farm

contorted filbert (harbl), Thursday, 16 July 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link

big fan of noted shitposter @caltrain

Coming soon, with far greater throughput per hour https://t.co/dAu94bw5ip pic.twitter.com/CTi4x8TzfI

— Caltrain (@Caltrain) July 22, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link

17 30-second images of the comet added up by @cielodecanarias, completely photobombed by @elonmusk's #Starlink satellites. It's a few hundreds of them right now,there will be a few thousands in the near future. @SpaceX is committed to coating orienting them better but still.... pic.twitter.com/TYtTf5xwhc

— Julien Girard (@djulik) July 22, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 23 July 2020 16:12 (three years ago) link

in some ways, the worst thing he's doing

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 23 July 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link

Do they do anything

How many satellites do we even need

all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 23 July 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

what laws/jurisdiction pertain if someone just decided to start shooting them down?

mookieproof, Thursday, 23 July 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link

Enraging

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 23 July 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

this man really makes me want to move to a ted shed

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 23 July 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link

okay man

https://i.imgur.com/2yegWhU.png

lag∞n, Friday, 24 July 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

Why are so many people using these shit blunt/sharp tool metaphors

a morley steve vai bad horsie what? (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 24 July 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link

"I needed a scimitar. But I've only the hammer of this tip line to show my gratitude for your service. I know that other, possibly less deserving, staff may benefit."

a morley steve vai bad horsie what? (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 24 July 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

this guy is a genius

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 24 July 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link

UBI would, of course, not require legislation. It would just be commanded to be

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 July 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link

Every Musk fanboi

I guess space faring would be a better term I personally think a Dyson swarms of O'Neil cylinders makes more sense for most people who opt to keep a physical body. Could fit a quadrillion people easily in comfort with a huge variety of landscapes.

— Chris Hawkins (@mchrishawkins) July 23, 2020

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 24 July 2020 22:50 (three years ago) link

We will coup whoever we want! Deal with it.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 25, 2020

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 July 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link

pronouns suck says elon musk

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 25 July 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link

anyone who stans this guy in 2020 is an automatic get the fuck away from me

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, 25 July 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link

why did lefties used to like this guy so much? cos of his car being eco-friendly or something?

glad most have become wise to his toxicity

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link

had to have been the cars. then it seemed like he was sort of the epic bacon guy for normies who Fucking Love Science for a nice long while. feel like he’ll be full mask-off fash before the new year

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:12 (three years ago) link

Tesla shuts off in mid-drive if you put on NPR or any liberal music

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link

secret "self-crashing" feature if u like tweets criticizing him

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

Anyone who ever stanned a fucking ceo in any year is an abject rube with zero self respect

Rishi don’t lose my voucher (wins), Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link

i read grimes' response tweet and it just broke my fucking heart.

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

why did lefties used to like this guy so much?

citation fuckin needed

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

Just about half my social circle was on his dick prior to like...last year

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

One of whom shared a Be Like Elon meme

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

xp she had a response tweet? i've been trying to find it for a few minutes (why? i don't know) and don't see one

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link

Not to be all no true Scotsman but I’d question whether these were “lefties”

Rishi don’t lose my voucher (wins), Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

the only person i've ever met who was pro Elon was a complete Tory creep who kept winking at me when I was chatting to his wife, and he was completely incredulous that he'd called that diver a pedo and was blithering on about some top-notch ted-talk he did. but "lefties" not a bloody chance, not even the so-called soft left i don't think.

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link

xp she had a response tweet? i've been trying to find it for a few minutes (why? i don't know) and don't see one

― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone)

maybe she deleted it. doesn't matter, it's still being shared all around discord. it was raw, emotional, and intensely personal.

i'm thinking of calling my next vaporwave project Cis Men in Acute Emotional Crisis. and it's real vaporwave, by which i mean it won't even exist.

look, i know this is a pvmic but it pains me on an ongoing basis to see cis men who are obviously not doing well lash out with anger and hatred and rage, to get into this particular spiral. it deeply saddens me the pattern playing out here, where Elon Musk's Girlfriend who is a brilliant and creative and accomplished woman tries to take care of him because he doesn't fucking know how to take care of himself, because he doesn't know how to hurt without hurting other people, and then when she does, everybody points at her, everybody _blames_ her, it's her fault for having the temerity to love a man.

there are a lot of women who love men, and it is hard, it is really fucking hard for the women i know. men have no idea how fucking hard it is.

elon musk is in emotional crisis, and he is handling it the same way goddamn near every other cis man handles emotional crisis, the way i used to handle emotional crisis before i transitioned and started to learn how to have fucking emotional boundaries - by lashing out like a wounded animal.

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link

as to whether the "left" likes musk, i mean, half the women on trans discord still get really bubbly whenever there's a spacex launch. if you want to say trans women aren't really "lefties", i just don't know how much of a useful judgement that is.

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

.@elonmusk continues his effort to spend lots of money to transport tiny numbers of people. Inefficiency is inequality! https://t.co/7vsFaPdUgp

— Jarrett Walker (@humantransit) July 24, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

I might unbookmark this thread bc now that I think about it it’s the only reason I am at all aware of Elon Musk’s shenanigans and dealings

all cats are beautiful (silby), Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link

out of all his shit trying to undermine pubic transpo is the worst and most revealing of who he really is, an industrialist duh

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link

“worshipping the ceo of Tesla(/whatever other billionaire)” seems like it should be disqualifying but “leftie” is a broad enough church to include tories now I guess

Rishi don’t lose my voucher (wins), Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link

someone on twitter was saying they had leftie in their tinder profile and a date thought it meant left handed lol

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link

Oh yeah sorry for other kind of lefty erasure

Rishi don’t lose my voucher (wins), Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link

I like to be flexible and nnon-judgemental as far as I can be, but stanning for some old money plutocrat industrialist whose family fled s africa with a load of dosh after the end of apartheid, well that means your politics are about as left wing as Margaret Thatcher.

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link

I like to be flexible and nnon-judgemental as far as I can be, but stanning for some old money plutocrat industrialist whose family fled s africa with a load of dosh after the end of apartheid, well that means your politics are about as left wing as Margaret Thatcher.

― calzino

you're not wrong. maybe i'm too much of a softie, maybe i go about things too slow, but my guess is that a lot of the folks i mentioned up thread may have a significantly different reaction to the next spacex launch. it's mostly a tactical difference, i think.

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

Tesla was cool before this shithead bought them, is my view

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

the og Tesla was the coolest, he invented alternating current and lived in a hotel room full of pigeons and wild birds!

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link

good thing he never got on twitter

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link

he probably liked Hitler's fave book I'm guessing?

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

and he was a eugenics stan. erm .. I meant Micheal Faraday!

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link

Apparently, he had more than enough tweets.

pplains, Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link

lol!

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link

i'm thinking of calling my next vaporwave project Cis Men in Acute Emotional Crisis.

damn why you gotta appropriate my culture

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Saturday, 25 July 2020 18:08 (three years ago) link

lmao

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 25 July 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link

damn why you gotta appropriate my culture

― trapped out the barndo (crüt)

"karen" was already taken as a bandname

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 25 July 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

I like to be flexible and nnon-judgemental as far as I can be

― calzino, Saturday, July 25, 2020 1:16 PM (one hour ago)

lmao

mookieproof, Saturday, 25 July 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

lol crut

sleeve, Saturday, 25 July 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link

What an enormous piece of shit.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 26 July 2020 08:41 (three years ago) link

We will coup whoever we want! Deal with it.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 25, 2020

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 26 July 2020 08:42 (three years ago) link

I think I hate him more than Bezos.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 26 July 2020 08:42 (three years ago) link

Quite a bit of regression in 2020.28 auto wipers for some reason.

Now it tends to see rain when there is none. But not always.

The only way to stop is to turn off wipers completely for some time. pic.twitter.com/d9l9yBqFWa

— green (@greentheonly) July 26, 2020

lag∞n, Sunday, 26 July 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link

i'm reminded of my first car, 1996 pontiac grand am, which used to completely shut off (like i ran out of gas, no power steering, slowly coming to a crawl) every time i hit a moderate bump in a road

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 27 July 2020 05:05 (three years ago) link

shitposter ceo is such a blatantly awful idea that i kinda respect it

Das Kapital in a nutshell pic.twitter.com/mG44mMkitx

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 27, 2020

lag∞n, Monday, 27 July 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

Uh, is that meme written in a clumsy imitation of AAVE? In which case, really fucking racist, fuck you Musk.

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 27 July 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link

I think I hate him more than Bezos.
Bezos is more successfully evil partially because he's smart enough not to, for example, develop this sort of extremely online persona

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Monday, 27 July 2020 21:03 (three years ago) link

wonder how much free government money this guy got

frogbs, Monday, 27 July 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link

Bezos is more successfully evil partially because he's smart enough not to, for example, develop this sort of extremely online persona

― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Monday, July 27, 2020 5:03 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

assuming you only want 10 billion dollars and not 100 billion dollars, i think musk is successful on those terms precisely because of his extremely online persona. without that, there is no way the stock price (and therefore his personal fortune) would be where it is.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 27 July 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link

he can't get to bezos's level by shitposting, but he is the most successful shitposter of all time.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 27 July 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link

imagine if bezos had musk's fanboy army

he'd get them doing mechanical turk shit for free

mookieproof, Monday, 27 July 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link

Bezos at least created a successful business

frogbs, Monday, 27 July 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link

musk had alltime great pr before the shit posting, its hurt him, if not in the stock price... yet

lag∞n, Monday, 27 July 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link

i mean seeming very publicly unstable is not something the big money tends to like, they wont complain as long as theyre making money but once theyre not

lag∞n, Monday, 27 July 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link

i think going nuts was his best option

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 27 July 2020 21:35 (three years ago) link

im willing to listen to your thesis

lag∞n, Monday, 27 July 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

What Dorothy illustrates is that you can put in the Neuralink, remove it, and be healthy, happy and indistinguishable from a normal pig.

Meaning no disrespect to the pig community but this doesn't sound like a necessarily desirable outcome if you weren't a pig going in to the experiment.

grebo shot first (Noel Emits), Saturday, 29 August 2020 12:43 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/5RQrshg.jpg

pplains, Saturday, 29 August 2020 13:45 (three years ago) link

Why can't this guy drop dead?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 29 August 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link

penny ass stock

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 01:11 (three years ago) link

-Fishbone

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 01:11 (three years ago) link

I have a friend who I think bought a Tesla yesterday. The day before his trip to the dealer I made fun of him for supporting Elon Musk, con man and neo-libretarian asshat, and my friend had no idea what I was talking about.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 13:20 (three years ago) link

(libertarian, not librarian, or whatever got posted))

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 13:20 (three years ago) link

neo-librarian

lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 13:32 (three years ago) link

Musk does seem the sort to collect a bunch of books he didn't read just to look good in his office.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 13:35 (three years ago) link

Just because i dig living on mars, ruining astronomy, and converting public wealth into private profits does not make me neo-librarian does it? am i the baddies?

retail rage is for suckers (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link

I learned today that a big chunk of Tesla's revenues ($428 million in the most recent quarter), the difference between them being profitable and not, comes from selling emissions credits to other auto manufacturers, for various jurisdictions around the world.

o. nate, Thursday, 10 September 2020 00:54 (three years ago) link

thanking u in advance, I will be sure to use that the next time I have to discuss this clown (which is way too often)

sleeve, Thursday, 10 September 2020 01:00 (three years ago) link

disappointed that elon has yet to bring a firefighting robot or covid antibody drone into service yet

mookieproof, Thursday, 10 September 2020 02:00 (three years ago) link

firefighting sub

lag∞n, Thursday, 10 September 2020 02:17 (three years ago) link

Firefighting submarine seems more his speed.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 September 2020 02:51 (three years ago) link

Wow

New From Us: Nikola—How to Parlay An Ocean of Lies Into a Partnership With the Largest Auto OEM in Americahttps://t.co/GHf6kvUgo0 $NKLA

(1/x)

— Hindenburg Research (@HindenburgRes) September 10, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 10 September 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link

So ... Nikola partners with GM, which sends Tesla shares down, then this other short seller party publishes research and fraud accusations against Nikola and *Nikola* shares do down, all over the course of a couple of days ... if I didn't know better I'd say something fishy is going on.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 September 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

lol

Our investigation of the site and text messages from a former employee reveal that the video was an elaborate ruse— $NKLA had the truck towed to the top of a hill on a remote stretch of road and simply filmed it rolling down the hill. pic.twitter.com/n2NLDGInzR

— Hindenburg Research (@HindenburgRes) September 10, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 10 September 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

absolute cesspool of an industry

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 10 September 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

the 'rolling downhill in neutral' industry is gaining momentum at exponential rates, though

Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 September 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Thursday, 10 September 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link

Be right back, founding a company called Sisyphus that specializes in pushing electric cars to the top of hills *and* rolling them down.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 September 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link

who does this guy think he is, elizabeth holmes?

contorted filbert (harbl), Thursday, 10 September 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

...its all connected

Tesla stock TSLA chart resembles Bitcoin bubble in 2017, says analyst https://t.co/yvuuLmIcab #bitcoin pic.twitter.com/U1RbV1OexK

— The Bitcoin Street Journal (@BTCstJournal) September 11, 2020

lag∞n, Friday, 11 September 2020 14:52 (three years ago) link

lol that analyst

Karl Malone, Friday, 11 September 2020 14:54 (three years ago) link

it's all about charts

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 11 September 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

and golden ratios

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 11 September 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

pepsi cola

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 11 September 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

tbf tesla makes real cars that go, afaict. there seems to be some light financial crimes, but they do make cars. the nikola thing is theranos.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 11 September 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

i'd say $TSLA chart is shaping up into a classic triple-charge summit - you can see the first "base camp" in March as the line consolidates gains and redistributes them to the previous baseline. the first real climb goes from march to late june, interrupted by an overnight "pause for breath", followed by a dawn ascent to Bravo camp in early August. all of that was clear enough, but not everyone agrees on the meaning of the heights of late August. was that the summit? it was cloudy, everyone was relying on their instrumental readings rather than sight, and no one on the trip had been above 20,000 ft before. we can only see that musk quickly retreated back down. did he fall or was he pushed? or is he just redistributing the gains and insights to Bravo camp?

Karl Malone, Friday, 11 September 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

could just be head and shoulders too

Karl Malone, Friday, 11 September 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

tbf tesla makes real cars that go, afaict. there seems to be some light financial crimes, but they do make cars.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, September 11, 2020 12:18 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

even money theyre doing major accounting fraud, tho maybe that qualifies for light these day

lag∞n, Friday, 11 September 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

yeah i mean "light" as in "light treason"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 11 September 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link

Light as in permanently removed from CEO office, permanently barred from ever serving officer or director of a publicly trading company ever again, as well as multiple $20M fines.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 11 September 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link

i mean the eron guys went to prison

lag∞n, Friday, 11 September 2020 19:00 (three years ago) link

The Hobart Mercury reported on the opening of an EV charging station in Hobart, Tasmania today. It has nothing to do with Tesla or Elon Musk but they thought this was the best image to illustrate the piece with.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lgd90g2grkrc5f2/elon.png?raw=1

Belongs on the claustrophobic movie posters thread.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Monday, 14 September 2020 05:59 (three years ago) link

For sure, it's like a cross between Back to the Future and Big Trouble in Little China. (Both by Drew Struzen.)

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 September 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link

and santorum.jpg

Doctor Casino, Monday, 14 September 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link

Muskophobic.

nickn, Monday, 14 September 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link

Tunnels are the solution to traffic. You can have as many levels as you want. Usable tunnel depth far exceeds tallest buildings, so would work even for New York or Beijing.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) September 15, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link

cool start workin

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link

What does the height of buildings have to do with anything??

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 23:17 (three years ago) link

He is saying if we lower New York completely to the depths of its highest building all the original streets become low level tunnels that we can build upon without needing flying Teslas.

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

Elon's tweets work better in the context of imagining he just took a massive bongrip prior to posting.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 23:31 (three years ago) link

"imagining" the "take stock private at 420" guy taking a bong rip

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/Vf3Hw8r.gif

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 23:55 (three years ago) link

the height of buildings matters because the only other viable alternative - flying cars - would be obstructed by them.

how you gonna get down to these tunnels? 600 laps down a corkscrew ramp? car lifts?

koogs, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 07:51 (three years ago) link

if only there were some preexisting system for transiting rapidly through cities, in tunnels

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 12:00 (three years ago) link

Yeah, but that approach is so modest. They should just scoop out the rest of the rock and dirt and make one *big* tunnel. Big problems deserve big solutions!

Did he ever finish his submarine? That, for those who don't know, is a machine that tunnels through *water.*

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 12:19 (three years ago) link

Can't wait to use the tunnels in New Orleans and Miami.

pplains, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 12:37 (three years ago) link

he just skip the prologue and just get straight to his tunnel from NYC - Shanghai project

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link

just drop people in, fast commute!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:11 (three years ago) link

what about a pneumatic tunnel that shoots people around without a vehicle

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

Or better yet, shoot people out to space!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link

shoot them to mars

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:22 (three years ago) link

seems like all of this could be done more easily with rope and elbow grease

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link

a sling shot

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:24 (three years ago) link

I was thinking a rope and pulley system, but that could probably be enhanced with sling shot modules

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link

a paternoster lift, but for cars

koogs, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

(i didn't mean paternoster, did i. what's the one where you step on and off every floor?)

koogs, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

That’s just a standard pre-bedtime routine to ward off spirits, I think

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

a paternoster lift, but for cars

― koogs, Wednesday, September 16, 2020 9:14 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

(i didn't mean paternoster, did i. what's the one where you step on and off every floor?)

― koogs, Wednesday, September 16, 2020 9:19 AM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

that's a paternoster

rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link

i called him a dumb fuck yesterday and it kinda blew up, had to mute the convo before the stans got there

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

Elon Musk-rats are some weird fucks

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

Kinda wish he'd get hit by a truck and have Guy Fieri bake him into some new Flavortown concoction

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link

i called him a dumb fuck yesterday and it kinda blew up, had to mute the convo before the stans got there

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, September 16, 2020 12:35 PM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

You’re not going to solve the problem by insisting that people use a form of transportation that is objectively less convenient than cars.

— Regyptian Slut (@RegyptianStrut) September 16, 2020

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link

markets determine correctness; if there are enough rich people who want to drive, they should be allowed to turn the city into a honking traffic sewer for everybody else, there are no other options

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link

The car is so convenient there must be tunnels under other tunnels to conduct them.

nashwan, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link

(a cursory glance at google was giving me a doorless lift that moved in a continuous loop and went over the top as a paternoster. not what i was after. which they used in mines...)

koogs, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

fuck cars. yeah, now and then I like going for a drive, but one of the things I love about visiting NYC is that I don't gotta rent one, the subways are easy to navigate, cheap, and hey, it's part of the experience.

all we have in Florida is the terrible Lynx bus system and the very limited SunRail. I wish I didn't have to drive.

but it's more important to get somewhere at 1:18 pm than a subway getting you there at 1:25 pm

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

lmao i love the idea that we can tackle climate change without any sacrifice convenience

clearly the best way to combat climate change it to keep pumping out $80,000 luxury sedans

serious question: is Tesla as a company even carbon neutral??

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link

the car is so convenient, all it asks of us is the melting of the polar ice caps by its byproducts, decades of murderous imperialist policy to provide its fuel, the complete transformation of landscapes at a continental scale to create markets for it, and ongoing mass death caused by its operation by barely-trained amateurs. until you can answer to that unprecedented level of convenience, then *shrug* i guess there's a reason they call elon a genius and YOU'RE a nobody!!

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link

I really believe that people who think “cars are convenient” have literally never had the chance to live anywhere that’s walkable, with limited parking and decent public transportation. Cars are astoundingly inconvenient and expensive to boot.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link

cars are in almost every way a huge pain in the ass

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

Cars are fun to drive, that’s about it

brimstead, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link

most of the time theyre not even fun youre just trying to get somewhere in a deadly machine that you control and theres a ton more deadly machines around too, and dont even get me started on parking!!

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

I own a car I bought before moving to a city, and when I even remember that it exists I mostly hope someone steals it

rob, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

h8 cars so fkin much
h8 car culture
h8 how everyone in a car culture intense place talks about cars

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

h8 old cars, new cars
h8 car shows
also driving is so painful and hard on your body

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link

last point so otm, I used to love driving when I was young and supple.

I would gladly sit on a bus for 30mins extra just to not have to deal with the sustained adrenaline-pumping stress of urban driving; hell even taking a cab/car can be terrifying

rob, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link

i have a hooptie right now so that probably has something to do with it but i swear more people drive like maniacs now than ever. feels like constantly dodging bullets out there!

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:07 (three years ago) link

what we absolutely need is dark tunnels full of computer controlled cars with nothing to anchor perspective, definitely the way forward

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link

working from home has been such an unexpected joy, and a big part of that is no longer wasting 30 minutes a day on a highway, and saving $80 a month (at least) in gas.

sleeve, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link

save on wear n tear too

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

NB I still read Jalopnik and can’t wait for The Grand Tour to come out with more episodes. I hate cars too but I’m drawn to single-minded enthusiasts of all stripes (also see: me still reading The Ringer despite having stopped following any sports)

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

Lagoon I thought you liked cars these days?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 21:08 (three years ago) link

i like cars... in some ways

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 21:24 (three years ago) link

map just described the shitty climax of the shitty fourth Fast & Furious movie, maybe we just need to get Musk to watch some of the other ones and we can look forward to new Teslas tuned up for "drifting"

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 17 September 2020 01:52 (three years ago) link

it's called Fast & Fourious, you're welcome

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Thursday, 17 September 2020 02:08 (three years ago) link

i also hate cars and cannot drive. but i've spent lockdown watching literally hindreds of episodes of Wheeler Dealers, Fantomworks, Fast and Loud, Misfit Garage etc.

koogs, Thursday, 17 September 2020 12:18 (three years ago) link

Left lagoon, right me

added a couple updates in response to feedback pic.twitter.com/YKMUqQpttC

— Michael Tae Sweeney (@mtsw) September 17, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 September 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

left caek right me

https://i.imgur.com/JTEx4x6.png

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 September 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link

lmao I can't get this out of my head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvSJORwb134

frogbs, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 01:33 (three years ago) link

four weeks pass...

I saw the Starlink for the first time last week on a clear sky, and it must have been the big one because this thing stretched *far* across the sky. Looked like an armada of spaceships invading, quite something, wasn't expecting the satellites to be so close together.

Two Meter Peter (Ste), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 08:54 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

@BoringPrufrock @BoringLoopLV @boringcompany this scenario shows 12pax AEV arriving every 6 seconds at a station with 5mph speed and 40s average dwell time per bay. Its a bit chaotic but the whole LVCC Loop system does end up moving 21,600 people per hour. pic.twitter.com/4dZUESsrXL

— Phil Harrison (@phlhr) November 14, 2020

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Monday, 30 November 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link

Comments have been counting the number of people run over in this simulation.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 30 November 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

what if I got in on the wrong side of the car when I was picked up - do I have to scoot across the seat to get out, or get murdered by the next car in line?

now, what if all the cars were connected, and moved in sync between some sort of "station" built for unloading them? just a thought.

vcrash, Monday, 30 November 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link

Why not just invent teleporting pods instead of wasting time with these cars.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 30 November 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link

lol nice simulation good work

lag∞n, Monday, 30 November 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link

my friend has a Tesla and he took me inside.

i was converted into digital data.

fuck

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 November 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

at the end of this the bottom car disgorges like 20 people

a certain derecho (brownie), Monday, 30 November 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

feel like musk could stand to read this guy's book https://www.ft.com/content/b0c29ff7-e35e-397d-bea4-a7ca36e0ea15

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 30 November 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

The teslas should be able to fling and capture passengers via coupling through large passenger windows.

foopin posts and pissin shits (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 30 November 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link

i always hear about lyft's end goal being self driving cars and, having driven lyft, it's fucking mystifying to me, like do they know how fucking chaotic people are? especially at bar time?

like picking someone up a club downtown, fucking drunk people tottering all over, crossing in the middle of the street, cops on horseback walking around, oh wait we're not on that side of the block we're by this other place oh wait one of our group is missing oh hey i know we said to drop off at my apartment but chelsea needs to be dropped off at her apartment can we swing by there too? wait don't go that way i know a better way

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 30 November 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link

thats why you just run them over

lag∞n, Monday, 30 November 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link

Dead people can't give you a bad rating

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 30 November 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link

My city refuses to even consider buses so we have 12-16 passenger van city-sponsored rideshare bullshit instead. It's the worst of all worlds - small and inconvenient without regular stopping points, drivers who aren't professionals at moving people around. I get passed by the vans doing 15-20 over on semi-residential streets regularly.

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Monday, 30 November 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

wait don't go that way i know a better way

I mean as a passenger I have certainly been in Lyfts that took a very bad route because the algo instructed them to, presumably the auto-driven cars would do this as well

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 30 November 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link

yeah I mean you what the app tells you to, I've also had people who insisted on a different route that was an absolute clusterfuck

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 30 November 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link

at the end of this the bottom car disgorges like 20 people

lol yeah theres like no rhyme or reason to the #s of people exiting those cars, 15+ passengers exit at least 3 times by my count

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 30 November 2020 20:49 (three years ago) link

inching closer to mass transit imo - sounds like a dead end project!

a certain derecho (brownie), Monday, 30 November 2020 21:11 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

SpaceX Mars prototype blew up during a test flight today. This is considered a success, due to Musk's policy to "embrace mishaps during the early stages of new spacefaring technology development."

huge rant (sic), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 08:50 (three years ago) link

EGG on Musk

nashwan, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 09:30 (three years ago) link

would actually pay for an Elon-breaking machine

calzino, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 09:34 (three years ago) link

Has this guy invented a space bus that runs on earth highways yet? How about terrestrial boats that drive (on wheels!) through tunnels *under* the water's surface rather than float over the top?

Sad to say that Elon probably missed his opportunity on this, though
https://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/GUEST_3bb6e264-6eb6-4e8b-8723-64334ea568a5?wid=325&hei=325&qlt=80&fmt=pjpeg

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

musk's genius brain coming at us with SpaceMall

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link

Yes Virginia, there really is a (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link

Wait was there another crash today? I know there was this crash 6 days ago:

Belly flop, engine restart, flip, and boom.

SpaceX’s Starship SN8 rocket spectacularly guided itself back to a landing pad in South Texas after a high-altitude test flight Wednesday, but it couldn’t nail the touchdown.

See our video of the entire flight: https://t.co/fUlhxwYevv pic.twitter.com/1odZgAS3R1

— Spaceflight Now (@SpaceflightNow) December 10, 2020

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link

trying to observe that from the perspective a future archivist/researcher.

the people of earth...are cheering for the test of a self-landing reusable rocket...they cheer for it as it deploys its automated systems and seems to be landing correctly...and then when it crashes and explodes...they cheer with even more enthusiasm

...unclear what 2020 people want or think

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link

I think multi-billion dollar space ship crashing to earth pretty much sums 2020 up.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link

I love that this billionaire dumbass with unlimited resources keeps trying and failing to do something NASA did in the 80s

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link

i believe nasa had some crashes back in the day as well, though! rocket science is probably pretty hard

and i think the idea is to continue the idea of reusable components that nasa had partially accomplished (the space shuttles)

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link

karl, this thread is for posting stuff like "can this guy even wipe himself?" after somebody links a tweet

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

Wait was there another crash today? I know there was this crash 6 days ago

this was almost certainly me misreading something late and tired, ty for video

huge rant (sic), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link

Has Elon Musk thought about radically disrupting the personal fragrance industry? Because that really seems like what he was born to do.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 20:44 (three years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/qbNT1dUsED

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 14, 2020

in the thread's defense, it is p hard to believe this guy can wipe himself

loose Orwellian mobs (rob), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 21:08 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

richest person in the world as of today

rob, Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:05 (three years ago) link

i find that bizarre

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:06 (three years ago) link

and sickening, obv

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:07 (three years ago) link

both are valid responses

rob, Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:08 (three years ago) link

I don't see why we call a person "rich" when all it means is that some object he holds claim to has been arbitrarily assigned a larger number, it's not like he's going to sell it. If somebody lives in a house that shoots up in value, they're not a millionaire unless they sell it, and if the house goes back down in value, they never were.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link

I mean I'm not saying Musk isn't rich, I'm just saying the temptation to declare that "the current price speculators are paying for a thing" represents its actual value is to be resisted.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:21 (three years ago) link

Pretend value behaves like real value, I suppose.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:22 (three years ago) link

I mean I'm not saying Musk isn't rich, I'm just saying the temptation to declare that "the current price speculators are paying for a thing" represents its actual value is to be resisted.

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, January 7, 2021 5:21 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is literally the definition of value

dean bad (map), Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:25 (three years ago) link

what is to be resisted, imo, is "rich people aren't that rich because they don't have a bunker full of cash"

dean bad (map), Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

all that is solid kills versus maims

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

listen, i know you're saying this ps5 is $400, but that's just speculation

Karl Malone, Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link

this is literally the definition of value

it is a very bad way to think about value imo, but i recognize it is popular

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:28 (three years ago) link

The problem is mostly that the bunker full of cash has disappeared into an asset that will provide nothing to no one, except Musk, for the foreseeable future.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link

what is to be resisted, imo, is "rich people aren't that rich because they don't have a bunker full of cash"

― dean bad (map), Thursday, January 7, 2021 12:26 PM (four minutes ago)

otm. cash also fluctuates in value iirc

rob, Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link

'Tesla cranked out about 500,000 cars last year, about as many as General Motors makes in a month. But despite that, Tesla is worth more than Ford, Honda, BMW, General Motors, Daimler, Volkswagen and Toyota put together.’ From CBC.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link

I don't see why we call a person "rich" when all it means is that some object he holds claim to has been arbitrarily assigned a larger number, it's not like he's going to sell it. If somebody lives in a house that shoots up in value, they're not a millionaire unless they sell it, and if the house goes back down in value, they never were.

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, January 7, 2021 9:20 AM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

you know that money changes in value as well? if someone has 10 million dollars are they not rich because hyperinflation could happen and their 10 million may not be enough to buy a a 1990 subaru forester then?

Fenners' Pen (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:34 (three years ago) link

Musk's wealth also feels a lot more.. tenuous than Bezos. I mean, Tesla still seems constantly on the edge of losing their market share and SpaceX is probably a couple exploded rockets away from falling apart.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link

1st gen Teslas are exploding so there's that...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link

Also afaict Bezos has yet to tweet something out that manipulates his stock price.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:47 (three years ago) link

It's just a bubble.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link

i was under the impression that spacex was doing really well and that they are maybe NASA's biggest contractor? or is it Boeing, still? plus, beyond delivering payloads to space stations and making the re-usable crafts for NASA, i'd assume that there will be a neverending series of rich people who are willing to pay $500K to fly in low-orbit space for a few hours

Karl Malone, Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:49 (three years ago) link

Most of Musk's wealth is tied in Tesla, SpaceX moves the needle by 5% of his total worth.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link

it is a very bad way to think about value imo, but i recognize it is popular

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, January 7, 2021 12:28 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

How do you define value?

Because if people are willing to spend 5% of their savings on one stock, that's value to them, and Musk's worth (mostly) is an addition of all those investments.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link

if he tried to wield power consistent with his paper wealth, other rich people and nations etc. would laugh at him.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 7 January 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link

also tesla stock isn't bitcoin, but it's not like he can sell it and get dollars equal to the number of shares * current price. obviously this is true of anyone paid in stock, but it's particularly true of tesla.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 7 January 2021 18:26 (three years ago) link

The amount power he yields is not inconsequential in that millions of people now have money tied to his fortunes. He can also use Tesla's cash flow to buy whatever he wants for a long time now.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 7 January 2021 18:44 (three years ago) link

i'm not saying he's not rich and powerful!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 7 January 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link

starting to think the rocket nonce may be dud

marg bar āmrikā (||||||||), Thursday, 7 January 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link

I guess I am just resistant to a rigid definition that says e.g. the "value" of a person's labor, if they don't have much power, is the pittance they can be forced to accept in exchange for it

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 7 January 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link

I know there are 10000 theoretical books about this I haven't read so I can just excuse myself

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 7 January 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

having a lot of tesla stock is like having a lot of beanie babies, if you think about it

superdeep borehole (harbl), Thursday, 7 January 2021 21:10 (three years ago) link

a cry for help?

rob, Thursday, 7 January 2021 21:32 (three years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/DBcwLMbV5G

— Mexie (@mexieYT) January 9, 2021

Karl Malone, Sunday, 10 January 2021 03:53 (three years ago) link

lmao

tesla built their car stereos to increment a counter every time you start it, and when it you've done it enough times the entire dashboard breaks. excellent https://t.co/EZB5RUuhBz

— kyle (@knives_are_cool) January 15, 2021

lag∞n, Sunday, 17 January 2021 03:14 (three years ago) link

intersting

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Er9BntdU0AAG8ih?format=jpg&name=900x900

mookieproof, Sunday, 17 January 2021 18:41 (three years ago) link

shoulda jsut given her emale

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Sunday, 17 January 2021 20:31 (three years ago) link

This car sounds like garbage.

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 17 January 2021 22:01 (three years ago) link

This is the new Tesla Model S and Model X interior. Mostly it's a big improvement, but...

I'm sorry, having only half a steering wheel is a dealbreaker.

https://images2.markets.businessinsider.com/6011ef0e6dfbe10018e00622

Lee626, Thursday, 28 January 2021 02:58 (three years ago) link

It's like flying a plane, man!

nickn, Thursday, 28 January 2021 03:41 (three years ago) link

lol that is... not functional

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 January 2021 03:44 (three years ago) link

boring opinion but im still amazed that it can be legal to just have a streaming-equipped TV screen that faces the driver. like 20 years ago i once got a ticket for obstructed view for having a dancing hula lady toy on my dashboard, and now you can literally just watch TV while you drive

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 28 January 2021 03:49 (three years ago) link

Every time I see a Model X in person I'm shocked again at how ugly it is.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Thursday, 28 January 2021 03:57 (three years ago) link

no shit when I started driving the cool thing to have were those CD/DVD players with a 7" screen precisely because they were illegal

frogbs, Thursday, 28 January 2021 03:59 (three years ago) link

i doubt that steering wheel is even legal in most of the world

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 28 January 2021 04:07 (three years ago) link

self-clowning car

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 January 2021 04:09 (three years ago) link

lol I bet three dozen people told him that only for him to reply "yeah ok eeet will be fine"

frogbs, Thursday, 28 January 2021 04:10 (three years ago) link

that car looks like it might be cool once they add some more polygons

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Thursday, 28 January 2021 04:12 (three years ago) link

it's the N64 of cars

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 January 2021 04:14 (three years ago) link

car does the driving, you don't need a steering wheel while you watch Tenet picture-in-picture with a baseball game

shivers me timber (sic), Thursday, 28 January 2021 05:01 (three years ago) link

the streaming video functions of tesla theater turn off when the car is in motion iirc

there will be more demand for video in cars that require charging - drivers will be sitting there with nothing to do

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 January 2021 09:09 (three years ago) link

they should add a glovebox or a back seat so ppl have somewhere to keep a book

shivers me timber (sic), Thursday, 28 January 2021 10:29 (three years ago) link

a what?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 January 2021 12:54 (three years ago) link

lol sic, you'll never make it in today's market thinking that way

k3vin k., Thursday, 28 January 2021 13:07 (three years ago) link

just...

Tesla unveiled the 2021 Model S and Model X vehicles on Wednesday night with images showing no stalks on the steering wheel or any other visible way to manually shift gears.

CEO Elon Musk tweeted today, when asked how this will work, that the car will guess which way the driver wants to go.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a35344029/tesla-model-s-x-shifter-explained/

Lee626, Friday, 29 January 2021 09:32 (three years ago) link

It’ll likely require training to learn your routine and parking spaces, and it's sure to make a few mistakes
luckily mistakes are fine to make when you're driving a car

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Friday, 29 January 2021 11:21 (three years ago) link

i'd say lol but they obviously knew this would happen and wanted it too because everything is shitposting for engagement

"At this time, NHTSA cannot determine if the steering wheel meets Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards. We will be reaching out to the automaker for more information." https://t.co/MZJoLkKR1w

— Josh Eidelson (@josheidelson) January 29, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 29 January 2021 23:29 (three years ago) link

sir this rendering is not a real car it is unlawful to play the witcher while driving

lag∞n, Saturday, 30 January 2021 01:13 (three years ago) link

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/elon-musk-says-he-has-wired-up-a-monkeys-brain-to-play-video-games-with-its-mind-12205374

Elon Musk says he has wired up a monkey's brain to play video games with its mind
"He's a happy monkey," claimed the billionaire.

The Man, DeLorean (onimo), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:08 (three years ago) link

Elon Musk says he has wired up a monkeys brain to be his only friend. "He's my best friend," claimed the billionaire.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:25 (three years ago) link

Elon Musk says he has wired up a monkeys brain to consume memes. "He's a epic monkey," claimed the billionaire.

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 18:34 (three years ago) link

Elon Musk says he has wired up a monkey's brain to wire up other monkeys' brains to kill. "The end is nigh," claimed the billionaire.

Florida Man vs. California Bill (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 18:49 (three years ago) link

Thought this was actually ... good?

https://jalopnik.com/in-epically-nerdy-interview-elon-musk-discusses-build-1846181756

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 23:59 (three years ago) link

Bro @NHTSAgov how is this even legal? One heavy breaking and their neck and face will go bye bye $TSLAQ $TSLA pic.twitter.com/vqrRVnDQLd

— Tess Laqué (@laque_tess) February 12, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 12 February 2021 23:54 (three years ago) link

hmm, that's kind of sensationalistic, you wouldn't be driving with the trunk open. absolutely impractical backseats that no one that isn't tiny could possible ever fit in is a pretty common thing in cars - i remember being almost too big to fit in the back of my uncle's porsche when i was 8

Dusty Benelux (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:00 (three years ago) link

porsche has a famously pretend back seat but ive never seen a regular car with that little head room

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:01 (three years ago) link

you wouldn't be driving with the trunk open

right but it doesn't matter if the trunk is open or not. there's a metal bar 12 inches in front of their face.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:13 (three years ago) link

btw these still sell the prius wagon in australia, where it is a seven seater! https://www.toyota.com.au/prius-v

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:15 (three years ago) link

you wouldn't be driving with the trunk open
right but it doesn't matter if the trunk is open or not. there's a metal bar 12 inches in front of their face.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, February 12, 2021 4:13 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh i assumed it would be flush when closed. doesn't look that way from this photo in the replies

Girls = 5,6' (170cm)
Guys = 6' (180cm) pic.twitter.com/mmt8FCAJG2

— Tess Laqué (@laque_tess) February 12, 2021

Dusty Benelux (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:17 (three years ago) link

literally loling at prius wagon their own marketing materials show zero leg room for the back row

https://i.imgur.com/6okNlN9.png

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:18 (three years ago) link

you can see them at 3:20 ish here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVJhTcyLkvE

i want a prius v, but not the seven seater. they look fine for kids, apart from the lack of oxygen in the car.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:21 (three years ago) link

my god

https://i.imgur.com/JFhQJxu.png

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:21 (three years ago) link

you see a lot of those as taxis in california, and without the third row they feel insanely spacious. i wish they still sold them in the US but we all want suvs now apparently.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:23 (three years ago) link

yeah its hard to find a non suv these days, tho as they keep making more compact ones maybe they will reinvent station wagons and hatchbacks

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:25 (three years ago) link

ive driven a couple prius didnt really care for them tbh very tin can feeling

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:26 (three years ago) link

tho its been a while maybe the new ones are better

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:26 (three years ago) link

im sorry but you must drive a "crossover". or a truck

Dusty Benelux (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:28 (three years ago) link

yeah they are. my in laws have a 2011 and a 2018 prius and fit and finish is waaaay better.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:28 (three years ago) link

nice

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:29 (three years ago) link

our 3 year forester lease is ending this year. i leased on the basis that there would be good EV options for us around now, but it's still slim pickings and i am struggling to win the prius v argument, so we'll probably end up leasing again :(

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:29 (three years ago) link

i think my wife is worried about how many people will want to do it with me if i'm driving a prius wagon tbh.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:30 (three years ago) link

it is a very magnetic car

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:32 (three years ago) link

bitcoin and tesla both down

lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 15:24 (three years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/lOQU3N3SBl

— Justin Gaynor (@justingaynor) March 4, 2021

grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Friday, 5 March 2021 10:24 (three years ago) link

lmao

frogbs, Friday, 5 March 2021 14:14 (three years ago) link

58 days and still no answer. I have had enough, i STILL believe Tesla makes great cars but their customer service is truly horrendous. Fifty-eight days since my car caught fire sitting in the drive, and Tesla doesn’t seem to care at all. ANSWER ME!! @Tesla @elonmusk pic.twitter.com/xZDr8mHQT7

— :( thor (@GUNMTLM3) March 4, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 5 March 2021 14:44 (three years ago) link

lol owned

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 5 March 2021 15:26 (three years ago) link

Jesus these Elon fanboys are absolutely brainwashed.

"Here's a photo of the burned husk of my car that randomly caught fire two months but I still believe Tesla makes great cars, it's just the bad customer service that needs work."

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 March 2021 15:31 (three years ago) link

don't worry lads, this reply guy has solved the case

Looks like sabotage. Teslas don’t spontaneously catch.

— Tesla STONK 💎🙌: Crypto ORACLE of OC: (@JosephVVallace) March 4, 2021

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 March 2021 15:36 (three years ago) link

this reminds me of those losers who spend hundreds of dollars on vinyl with ratings like "Very Good Plus" and pretend the surface noise and inner groove distortion actually makes it sound better, heh heh heh you dorks

frogbs, Friday, 5 March 2021 15:42 (three years ago) link

so the Tesla was a "hot stamper"?

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Friday, 5 March 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link

damnit i wanted to see footage of car go boom

map ca. 1890 (map), Friday, 5 March 2021 21:01 (three years ago) link

we like those

honkin' on bobo, honkin' with my feet ten feet off of beale (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 6 March 2021 01:20 (three years ago) link

Profoundly depressing that the guy has to lead with “I still think Tesla is the best I promise.”

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 6 March 2021 01:23 (three years ago) link

we're Tesla and Bunny

armoured van, Holden (sic), Saturday, 6 March 2021 02:21 (three years ago) link

$tslaq
I have a theory and before I just started throwing out accusations of total fraud I did a complete exhaustive examination of the ZEV (and then non ZEV) credit transfers. Teslas rev/ profit center.

— Mindful Capitalist (@HappiestYogi) March 11, 2021

lag∞n, Thursday, 11 March 2021 14:00 (three years ago) link

I still think about this tweet every time someone mentions Elon Musk (which is like every day). It feels like it was from way longer ago that 2018.

Elon Musk

peace, man, Thursday, 11 March 2021 14:38 (three years ago) link

link is just looping me back to the bottom of the thread

this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 March 2021 18:40 (three years ago) link

maybe for the best, that tweet is both funny and too cursed to bear

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 March 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link

link works on desktop, not on zing

armoured van, Holden (sic), Thursday, 11 March 2021 20:51 (three years ago) link

aha, i'm on flagging

this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 March 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link

Tesla has officially listed founder Elon Musk as its 'Technoking' in a regulatory filing, while the firm's financial chief is named 'Master of Coin' https://t.co/ZyfOWyHTef pic.twitter.com/sQT3j2SsOM

— Reuters (@Reuters) March 15, 2021

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 04:54 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/smxu0hn.png

i don't follow any of this shit closely, but here are the scenarios they used for that. it seems like they're like 50% sure the robotaxis will be a thing by then

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 19:12 (three years ago) link

(and because that's kind of a confusing graphic probably, by "50%" i didn't mean anything specific, i just meant that in about half of simulations, they ended up assuming robotaxis were a thing)

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 19:13 (three years ago) link

I know this is off topic but it fucking drives me up the wall to see hundreds of idiots on Twitter defend this guy by saying "yeah he's a billionaire but he's literally trying to save the world and advance civilization by bringing about a techno utopia" when he SWATs his own workers for even suggesting they unionize

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 19:17 (three years ago) link

Within 2 years he will convert his $TSLA holdings into BTC and bounce.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link

I recall reading an analysis of how the conversion of taxis and trucks to self-driving vehicles could put millions of people with relatively strong jobs that require few hurdles for entry out of work. Something like 3.5 million people drive trucks alone.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 20:46 (three years ago) link

yeah, but those same truck drivers will help spur innovation and growth in the video poker sector

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 21:05 (three years ago) link

They just need to pivot to video, simple.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 21:10 (three years ago) link

Well, someone's got to plug those video poker machines in. That's millions of jobs gained right there alone!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 21:11 (three years ago) link

I recall reading an analysis of how the conversion of taxis and trucks to self-driving vehicles could put millions of people with relatively strong jobs that require few hurdles for entry out of work. Something like 3.5 million people drive trucks alone.


Luckily for them the technology doesn’t work

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 21:55 (three years ago) link

It works perfectly well, for the first few hundred feet before it hits another car or runs someone over. But that's theirs problem for not being automated, losers.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 21:58 (three years ago) link

something like the tusimple approach should be possible, since you can invest more money into the sensors for semis. you probably also have a better view of things with the sensor placement. and it looks like they have set shipping routes that will be well-trained. there will still be a driver in the cockpit.

intrusive dobro, shoeless guest (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 22:31 (three years ago) link

I know this is off topic but it fucking drives me up the wall to see hundreds of idiots on Twitter defend this guy by saying "yeah he's a billionaire but he's literally trying to save the world and advance civilization by bringing about a techno utopia" when he SWATs his own workers for even suggesting they unionize

― frogbs, Wednesday, March 24, 2021 3:17 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is because Americans don’t trust one another and are more comfortable with an idea of one “great man” changing things than they are with collective action. There is no solidarity here, people just want to make sure their neighbor doesn’t have more than they do. This is a bitter, self loathing country that worships its worst citizens.

treeship., Thursday, 25 March 2021 00:51 (three years ago) link

https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/25/22351157/tesla-elon-musk-delete-anti-union-tweet-national-labor-relations-board
No question that Tesla and Musk have engaged in many illegal shenanigans to pre-emptively bust a union, but what is "technically" the offense in this tweet? The giving up stock options thing?

Nhex, Friday, 26 March 2021 14:02 (three years ago) link

yes. page 51 of the ruling starts going into the rationale. IANAL but basically it is illegal to tell employees that if you vote to unionize, we will take away a benefit you currently have - it's a form of intimidation. the NLRB finds that this is the most logical/likely interpretation of the tweet.

bear in mind also that, threatened in advance or not, if employees chose Union Yes, employers are barred from making unliateral changes to things that are subjects of bargaining, even before a contract is ratified. (they may try anyway, but they can be challenged for doing something illegal.) so tesla also could not legally do this stock options thing that he was implying/threatening would happen.

basically a more sophisticated sleazy employer would have listened to his sleazy anti union lawyers, who would have told him "you have to phrase it like you're deeply concerned that a possible outcome *of collective bargaining* would be a contract where for some reason the union's representation agrees to give up this benefit and everybody loses out, bizarre though that might be." employers use this schtick all the time - for example fretting that somehow a union would ratify a contract where workers lose more by paying dues than they gain in take-home pay. never mind that this will never ever happen, because what bargaining unit would vote yes to ratify such a contract? the employer can legally speculate that gosh, it's *possible*! watch out guys! musk didn't bother with that, so it seems like he's just saying "an outcome of you voting yes is i will punish you," which is not allowed.

this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 March 2021 14:34 (three years ago) link

gotcha. ty!

Nhex, Friday, 26 March 2021 14:36 (three years ago) link

'Investors are pouring money into unprofitable companies more than any time since the dot-com bubble.' https://t.co/myvYqbQYR7 pic.twitter.com/EOuevP70ZU

— Jesse Felder (@jessefelder) March 26, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 26 March 2021 15:29 (three years ago) link

what could go wrong

sean gramophone, Friday, 26 March 2021 15:34 (three years ago) link

no future no past

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 26 March 2021 16:19 (three years ago) link

Elon Musk, Texas: Apartheid. https://t.co/xzOglJuRyV pic.twitter.com/SSlqHlD3sM

— The Onion (@TheOnion) March 25, 2021

can't believe this dumb herb actually replied

rob, Friday, 26 March 2021 19:59 (three years ago) link

this guy

lag∞n, Friday, 26 March 2021 21:02 (three years ago) link

apparently bitch-ass-ness is as unlimited as income growth for the wealthy these days

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Friday, 26 March 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link

this dude sucks

Clay, Friday, 26 March 2021 21:22 (three years ago) link

I have been told of this creep's genius mind for almost ten years now and I have yet to use any of his products, and most of the people around me can say the same. Dude is the ultimate snake oil vendor and I hope unionization drives his ideas out of the highway and into the precipice.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 27 March 2021 00:38 (three years ago) link

Lmao the Babylon Bee fucking suuuucks

frogbs, Saturday, 27 March 2021 00:45 (three years ago) link

on the upside there's a lot of gold in that Onion slideshow

rob, Saturday, 27 March 2021 01:01 (three years ago) link

I found a video about Tesla's autopilot in Vietnam.
That poor system just gave up. pic.twitter.com/9J3FlL2tsw

— Tu Minh (@TuhmSG) March 30, 2021

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 19:44 (three years ago) link

Lol

lots of FSD failure vids going on right now. Clearly not close to ready.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 21:13 (three years ago) link

Lol I didn't realize anyone owned a Tesla here in Vietnam. I have often thought when driving here that this might be the toughest challenge on Earth for their autopilot

Vinnie, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 23:32 (three years ago) link

Athens, Greece is also pretty nuts with all the motorbikes.

DJI, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 23:49 (three years ago) link

It’s fine SpaceX. I’ll just reschedule my field work until next year again because I can’t drive down a state Highway or state beach. It’s only public land and critical habitats you just showered with rocket parts. pic.twitter.com/gTj9l5SXrV

— Ross Winton (@rosscwinton) March 31, 2021

armoured van, Holden (sic), Thursday, 1 April 2021 01:03 (three years ago) link

Technoking indeed

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 1 April 2021 02:55 (three years ago) link

The explosion of yet another (3rd so far this year) SpaceX rocket prototype yesterday showered metal and potentially toxic debris far into the sensitive tidal flats of the South Bay Coastal Preserve, Boca Chica State Park and the Lower Rio Grande Valley National Wildlife Refuge. On the right side of the highway is the SpaceX fenceline, and on the left is what has historically been one of the single most important sites for wintering Piping Plovers and thousands of other shorebirds. Since SpaceX gets County orders to close the highway and beach most weekdays we have had to cut back extensively on our monitoring there. Sadly, most news stories about these explosions neglect to mention the extensive damage being done to these highly unique coastal public lands.

https://www.facebook.com/CBBEPCoastalBirds/photos/a.1410276219230980/2985174601741126/

I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Friday, 2 April 2021 00:09 (three years ago) link

Lmaoooooooo pic.twitter.com/DXU5e3dGJ7

— logo, uncool zoned dad (@logophobe) April 5, 2021

lag∞n, Monday, 5 April 2021 15:05 (three years ago) link

this is really something!

Footage of what it looks like when a @Tesla is traveling through the @boringcompany’s Convention Center Loop. #vegas #boringcompany pic.twitter.com/ph1DJoTYBi

— Mick Akers (@mickakers) April 9, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 9 April 2021 15:19 (three years ago) link

remarkable! maybe they can build a scale model of london in the parking area and play the peter pan title music.

microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 9 April 2021 15:52 (three years ago) link

Apartheid guy is an arsonist

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 April 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link

Lol fair

behold: the las vegas tradition of using light design to distract you from what a bad time you're having https://t.co/Yaot4SRTPJ

— Scott Frazier (@safrazie) April 9, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 April 2021 18:02 (three years ago) link

can you carry open bottles in the tunnel, though

microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 9 April 2021 18:09 (three years ago) link

My neighbor just bailed on getting a Tesla solar roof installed after like 8 months of runaround from the company.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 9 April 2021 18:27 (three years ago) link

Actual footage of Elon's Tesla submarine attacking a competitor's loop prototype:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5e/23/9b/5e239b8a83739df81702fdd2e80af52d.gif

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 April 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link

In more serious/interesting news, I did hear a good Freakanomics episode that addressed the challenges self-driving cars face with roundabouts:

https://freakonomics.com/podcast/roundabouts/

When a human driver enters a roundabout, Cameron explains:
CAMERON: What you’re doing is having to do this intricate dance almost, with all of these other people. You’re basically taking social cues from all of these different vehicles and you’re doing that visually.

As we’ve been hearing, learning this roundabout dance can be a challenge for human drivers.

CAMERON: In a robo-taxi, that same challenge is present. You have to be able to perceive these objects early.

Objects including not just other vehicles but pedestrians, cyclists, dogs.

CAMERON: You have to be able to understand their intent, understand their direction, their speed. And all of these things make for a particularly interesting challenge. And a robo-taxi is not quite as aggressive as a human driver. So it’s very conservative.

And in some circumstances:

CAMERON: You cannot be conservative. It just doesn’t work. You’d be stuck there at the entrance to a roundabout forever.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 April 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link

"Hey, kids --- Big Ben! Parliament!"

sgt. pepper's one-and-only bobo honkin' band (Doctor Casino), Friday, 9 April 2021 19:14 (three years ago) link

lol that's in the episode!

BERESFORD: It was that Lampoon with Chevy Chase — that’s so much stuck in the psychology of the Americans, that you’re just going to go ’round and ’round forever on a roundabout.
You may remember this scene:
Chevy CHASE: I guess what we do is just drive around the circle here.
It’s from the 1985 film National Lampoon’s European Vacation. Chevy Chase plays the American dad Clark Griswold, driving around a London roundabout with his family.
CHASE: Hey look, kids! There’s Big Ben and there’s Parliament!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 April 2021 19:16 (three years ago) link

hahahahhaa

sgt. pepper's one-and-only bobo honkin' band (Doctor Casino), Friday, 9 April 2021 19:23 (three years ago) link

Stephenson's Rocket, a fucking oak barrel on wheels, went faster than the Las Vegas Loop in 1829 and hauled more people pic.twitter.com/X90A3uWZfe

— 🌈Wings & Strings (@TomColetti) April 9, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 April 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link

Elon would go faster if he sealed himself in a barrel and got thrown over Niagara falls.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 April 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link

I like subways.

Why would you replace subways?

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 10 April 2021 02:32 (three years ago) link

because theyre competition for your car business

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 April 2021 02:33 (three years ago) link

Seems very unsafe, also.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 10 April 2021 02:47 (three years ago) link

Kylie Jenner drives through Deathtrap Tunnel

Kylie Jenner showing off The Boring Company tunnel in Las Vegas 👀

🔥 @elonmusk pic.twitter.com/wwN0yc9zIx

— SAINT (@saint) April 14, 2021



how long before someone crashes their car in here and they can't get it out? like, a week?

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 16 April 2021 13:49 (three years ago) link

the cars must be on self driving mode in the tunnel no

lag∞n, Friday, 16 April 2021 13:52 (three years ago) link

makes sense, but doesn't look like it from that video.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 16 April 2021 13:55 (three years ago) link

good, because Jenners don't have a good track record when driving their own vehicles

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 April 2021 13:56 (three years ago) link

thankfully there have been no incidents to date of accidents involving self-driving cars

sgt. pepper's one-and-only bobo honkin' band (Doctor Casino), Friday, 16 April 2021 13:56 (three years ago) link

That's what the 🔥 emoji represents

— G (@grova) April 15, 2021

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 16 April 2021 13:59 (three years ago) link

feels like an admission that their self-driving tech is at the single lane tunnel level.

microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 April 2021 14:00 (three years ago) link

how long before someone crashes their car in here and they can't get it out? like, a week?

That's the whole plan: a car will get stuck, and Elon will announce a new Land Submarine that will drill down and rescue it.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 April 2021 14:05 (three years ago) link

until he is then stepped on by a Kaiju

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 April 2021 14:10 (three years ago) link

feels like an admission that their self-driving tech is at the single lane tunnel level.

― microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, April 16, 2021 10:00 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

at 35mph max lol

lag∞n, Friday, 16 April 2021 14:23 (three years ago) link

I'm more confused by the fact that Tesla actively chose to release videos of it than I am at how much it sucks.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 16 April 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link

i feel like a lot of the excitement & novelty theyre feeling in that vid has got to be down to the fact that ppl that wealthy are never actually in the front seat of a moving vehicle seeing the road through the windshield

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 16 April 2021 14:32 (three years ago) link

the indescribable thrill of crushing claustrophobia

rob, Friday, 16 April 2021 14:48 (three years ago) link

going to redub the clip with the tunnel scene from willy wonka

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 16 April 2021 14:51 (three years ago) link

Just wait until these dorks see the United terminal at O'Hare:
https://vinepair.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/ohaire-internal.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 April 2021 15:09 (three years ago) link

Or that shitty ride at Epcot:

https://www.themeparktourist.com/files/Journey%2520into%2520Imagination.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 April 2021 15:11 (three years ago) link

is that elon on the right?

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 16 April 2021 15:12 (three years ago) link

This is the man who will own Mars

| (Latham Green), Friday, 16 April 2021 15:45 (three years ago) link

He can have it, imo, but only if he moves there.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 April 2021 15:58 (three years ago) link

he has....two weeks

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 April 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link

l-r: elon musk, grimes

peace, man, Friday, 16 April 2021 16:12 (three years ago) link

^not even funny anymore at this point, tbh.

peace, man, Friday, 16 April 2021 16:13 (three years ago) link

Well a lot of Tesla's concepts are a figment of his imagination

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 16 April 2021 16:14 (three years ago) link

Lol I could write code for self driving cars in a single lane tunnel

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 16 April 2021 16:19 (three years ago) link

could do this with two, possibly one lego mindstorms reflectometer

microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 April 2021 16:44 (three years ago) link

"lidar is a crutch"
*builds tunnel underground for self-driving cars without lidar*

microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 April 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

i tuned out the whole boring story - is the idea that there will be endless lines of cars moving on these things? like a pullover lane where the passenger steps in, and then the boring car automatically moves onto the main 35mph track alongside it and whooshes to the destination?

i mean, i guess

jfc

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 April 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link

i think the best way to understand the boring company is its anti public transportation propaganda in service of selling more cars

lag∞n, Friday, 16 April 2021 17:00 (three years ago) link

what if we take all the existing cars and then pay elon musk to reconfigure them to work on his boring lanes

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 April 2021 17:01 (three years ago) link

what if we connect all the existing cars together, in a loop, and then put that loop around the moon. then everyone would just hop in their cars, twist the loop, and you're on the moon

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 April 2021 17:02 (three years ago) link

like it doesnt have to be successful at transporting people to accomplish its goal which is to undermine public transportation via introducing chaos into the process of doing public transpo xp self

lag∞n, Friday, 16 April 2021 17:02 (three years ago) link

heh, you might be right. you think it's kind of like a loss-leader, worth the billions of losses because it opens up other ways that he can make $ in a non-boring fashion?

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 April 2021 17:04 (three years ago) link

theres that and also hes not a totally rational actor who has made it clear he just hates public transportation on its on merits and he prob also believes his own bs so i mean why not dig some tunnels and make ridiculous claims

lag∞n, Friday, 16 April 2021 17:07 (three years ago) link

whatever you think of bezos, he is clearly a good executive and logistics is the original hard operational problem. musk just seems insane, maybe 0.5% of the world (i.e. US men aged 20-30) find his shtick compelling, and the fact that he is the world's second richest man is proof that nothing matters.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 16 April 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link

i get a panic attack just thinking about riding in that thing

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 April 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link

it looks too narrow to open the doors (which probably don't work unless you turn the engine off and on again)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 16 April 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link

half-kidding but: Elon as a public figure makes me regret that Freudianism has fallen so out of favor

rob, Friday, 16 April 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link

Engineer who worked on this tunnel for a bit before quitting messaged me other day and said “basically all the engineers did was work to make sure that the fancy lights looked cool” and that people trashing the tunnel - bc cars are slow, etc - are way more right than they realize https://t.co/arWokSQxdR

— Ryan Deto (@RyanDeto) April 16, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 16 April 2021 17:29 (three years ago) link

I don’t think it’s possible to be any more right about Musk than I think I am

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 16 April 2021 18:04 (three years ago) link

I swear this whole project is a death trap.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 16 April 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link

finally...mankind will touch the surface of the moon

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 April 2021 19:13 (three years ago) link

i have to admit it would be kind of funny if we found out that elon musk faked his moon landing

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 April 2021 19:18 (three years ago) link

I see Musky as this guy who controls/pays lots of really smart people then steals all the credit

| (Latham Green), Friday, 16 April 2021 19:48 (three years ago) link

He is the Thomas Kinkade of tech.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 April 2021 20:07 (three years ago) link

controls/pays lots of really smart people

to do what

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 16 April 2021 21:13 (three years ago) link

stuff that he steals the credit for

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Friday, 16 April 2021 21:51 (three years ago) link

tbf space exploration feels like a major grift

> Acting NASA administrator Steve Jurczyk said Friday that under President Biden’s budget request, the agency’s Artemis mission has a new goal: in addition to landing the first woman on the Moon, it will also send the first person of color to the lunar surface. So far, the only Earthlings to touch the Moon’s surface have been white men.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/9/22375899/nasa-first-person-of-color-artemis-mission-moon-woman

I hope this prevents cops from shooting black kids.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 16 April 2021 22:00 (three years ago) link

i think it makes a lot of sense that his market worth is so huge because he's basically an avatar for the continued dominance of car culture. it's certainly not because he's competent in any way. he's kind of a similar figure to trump in the sense of being a stand-in for the relevance of a huge reactionary industry where his incompetence is a feature. like his real asset is just the fact that he's a stupid blowhard true believer.

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Friday, 16 April 2021 22:02 (three years ago) link

stuff that he steals the credit for

all they do is make robot cars that murder people, spaceships that explode on the ground, and imaginary submarines that get too mad at invisible paedophiles to get around to existing

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 16 April 2021 22:58 (three years ago) link

eh if you're into space stuff than SpaceX making launches way way cheaper is a big deal. and jump-starting the electric vehicle market (sorry too lazy to change bad metaphor) was a big deal.

but yes, launching a suicidal self-driving feature was bad. the tunnel under Las Vegas seems like the dumbest so far (someone pointed out that they're too small for people to open their doors, so no escape in an emergency ... AND you can't get help because they're too small for emergency vehicles. and it was an awful idea anyway. trains! just make trains!)

lukas, Friday, 16 April 2021 23:06 (three years ago) link

what good is SpaceX going to go for anything?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 April 2021 23:56 (three years ago) link

Ruining the night sky with orbiting trash and satellites.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 16 April 2021 23:58 (three years ago) link

I feel like the only real motivation is some pathetic billionaire sci fi escape fantasy of escaping a dying Earth and living on a space station

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 17 April 2021 00:00 (three years ago) link

yeah I'm not into space stuff either but I know smart devoted geeks who worship SpaceX so ... like so many things ... it might be useless, but the engineering was good.

lukas, Saturday, 17 April 2021 00:04 (three years ago) link

I’ll give Tesla some credit for making a fully electric EV seem like a luxury vehicle - there are a lot of legitimately cool and impressive things about them. This has almost nothing to do with Musk himself, however - in fact, the more I read about this company the more I’ve come to the conclusion that his contribution to the company is generally limited to stupid, gimmicky features and bad QC as a result of making dumb promises. That said he does appeal to a certain type of mega online dork and that alone has probably sold thousands of cars.

frogbs, Saturday, 17 April 2021 00:19 (three years ago) link

I’ll give Tesla some credit for making a fully electric EV seem like a luxury vehicle

this is terrible, not good

it might be useless, but the engineering was good.

The explosion of yet another (3rd so far this year) SpaceX rocket prototype yesterday showered metal and potentially toxic debris far into the sensitive tidal flats of the South Bay Coastal Preserve, Boca Chica State Park and the Lower Rio Grande Valley National Wildlife Refuge. On the right side of the highway is the SpaceX fenceline, and on the left is what has historically been one of the single most important sites for wintering Piping Plovers and thousands of other shorebirds. Since SpaceX gets County orders to close the highway and beach most weekdays we have had to cut back extensively on our monitoring there. Sadly, most news stories about these explosions neglect to mention the extensive damage being done to these highly unique coastal public lands.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 17 April 2021 00:29 (three years ago) link

prototypes do blow up sometimes, that's sort of the point of the testing.

if my comment didn't make it sufficiently clear, I'm a HUGE fan of blanketing wildlife refuges with rocket debris. I hope they explode a thousand more rockets. muhahahaha

lukas, Saturday, 17 April 2021 00:34 (three years ago) link

this is terrible, not good

maybe I should rephrase. Tesla made EVs cool. a total 180 from the way that say, hybrids were portrayed.

frogbs, Saturday, 17 April 2021 02:12 (three years ago) link

I definitely think Tesla make the big manufacturers move to EV more quickly

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 17 April 2021 02:16 (three years ago) link

hence why I'll never own one, every good idea Tesla has is gonna get stolen by the big car companies, improved upon, and made cheaper

frogbs, Saturday, 17 April 2021 02:22 (three years ago) link

the big car companies have spent a century refining the process of manufacturing motor vehicles. they are familiar with failures and what recalls cost. tesla is like oops, sorry, let's roll out the latest nightly beta, that'll probably fix it

mookieproof, Saturday, 17 April 2021 03:03 (three years ago) link

if a car explodes but nobody is driving it, was it really a car

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 April 2021 03:06 (three years ago) link

the problem with the idea that tesla popularized electric vehicles is that a. it was all built on government subsidies without which tesla would not exist, literally the popularization of electric vehicles is a government program that elon musk was just a willing partisipant in, and more importantly b. electric vehicles just arent popular, any of the big automakers would happily sell them if people were buying, theyve certainly put a lot of time and effort into developing and marketing them and theyve made some decent cars but so far they are not in high demand, even with the government trying to push them, one would assume that will change some day but as of now in the usa at least electrics are not in high demand

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 April 2021 03:09 (three years ago) link

the back of the envelope math people are doing to justify teslas insane stock price that assumes domination of a huge market of which electric cars are just part is especially weird considering in the countries where electric vehicles are more popular people are just buying the same volkswagens and toyotas they always have, there doesnt seem to be any sort of big first mover advantage there

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 April 2021 03:17 (three years ago) link

brand loyalty is more and more a thing of the past but it still exists in the auto industry

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 17 April 2021 03:23 (three years ago) link

The automotive industry and oil industry just failed to move on quickly enough to ensure... human survival. It's not Musk's accomplishment, it's a societal massive failure.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 17 April 2021 03:28 (three years ago) link

I agree their stock price is silly but even with subsidies, people were arguing that nobody was going to buy EVs ... then it was that Tesla wouldn't be able to scale manufacturing to meet preorders ... now it's "well 2% of the market is tiny" which is fair, but ... I mean, I detest Elon Musk, but I just don't get it. Selling electric cars is a good thing! Nobody else was making it a priority! They're an incredibly irresponsible company but it's not a scam and I don't understand the hate.

lukas, Saturday, 17 April 2021 03:29 (three years ago) link

I think people are tired of cars.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 17 April 2021 03:32 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/GFOrXUI.png

https://i.imgur.com/yXSfm5m.png

https://i.imgur.com/N9NfQSe.png

being in 6th place in norway is pretty amazing if they could have nearly that success in rich countries world wide it would be huge, but it prob still wouldn't justify their stock price lol, then if we look at sweden theyre not even on the list, not sure whats going with there

https://i.imgur.com/kuGZtOn.png

then theres the usa, being up there with bmw and benz isnt nothing but its also not everything

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 April 2021 03:32 (three years ago) link

Selling electric cars is a good thing! Nobody else was making it a priority! They're an incredibly irresponsible company but it's not a scam and I don't understand the hate.

― lukas, Friday, April 16, 2021 11:29 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

not sure if any of these statements are true tbh

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 April 2021 03:33 (three years ago) link

When I envision an utopian future, there is no cars.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 17 April 2021 03:34 (three years ago) link

However bad you think the future is going to be, it'll be worse without electric cars, cuz we're definitely not going to restructure society around mass transit in my lifetime.

lukas, Saturday, 17 April 2021 03:39 (three years ago) link

welp then theres prob no point in doing electric cars

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 April 2021 03:41 (three years ago) link

why?

lukas, Saturday, 17 April 2021 03:41 (three years ago) link

if you dont think doing the major surgeries needed to forestall catastrophe are possible then theres really no point in applying the bandaids like electric cars

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 April 2021 03:45 (three years ago) link

transportation, mostly cars and trucks, is the single greatest source of greenhouse gases? am I missing something????

lukas, Saturday, 17 April 2021 03:48 (three years ago) link

electric cars produce greenhouse gasses, i mean theyre better than fuel burning cars but its marginal, where public transpo is orders of magnitudes better

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 April 2021 03:49 (three years ago) link

and just on a philosophical level the sort of fatalist incrementalism of contemporary liberalism where building public transportation, something that has been done before and in fact continues to be done, is impossible but electric cars are going to save us is well its just... uhh not great

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 April 2021 03:54 (three years ago) link

eh even with the electricity generation and the battery manufacturing, it's a 2-3x reduction. and as we decarbonize electricity generation that number will get better and better.

i'll be overjoyed to be proven wrong here, but we don't just have to build public transportation, we have to build housing stock in saner places where transit makes sense ... we can't even build houses to solve homelessness. i'm not saying we'll get nothing done here, but thinking electric vehicles don't have an important role to play in this transition is ... it's bad, lagoon. bad.

lukas, Saturday, 17 April 2021 04:00 (three years ago) link

i generally agree. electric cars are a good thing. they're not the answer, but nothing is. do it all.

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Saturday, 17 April 2021 04:02 (three years ago) link

you are of course misrepresenting what i said because youre mad but something to think about cars now are well more than 2x3 times less polluting than they were 30 years ago and yet here we are xp

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 April 2021 04:07 (three years ago) link

was thinking the other day about how every person i know irl who ever brings up elon musk thinks he rules and is explicitly going to save humanity and they love him very much which i of course think is insane and bad but what can you do

Clay, Saturday, 17 April 2021 04:11 (three years ago) link

i will happily say definitively electric are not a good thing, they are quite obviously a less bad thing, and obvs were never going to get rid of cars totally so yeah they should be electric cars and in fact i feel quite confident the world is moving in that direction

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 April 2021 04:12 (three years ago) link

A part of the hate is that you can't on one hand claim to be saving the world with electric cars and on the other lobby against mass public transit when obviously the latter is key in fighting climate change. In a better world this is not a zero sum game and both will coexist but Elon Musk seems to insist that it can't (what else is that ridiculous tunnel?) and couch that rhetoric with heavy classism.

Also I have no idea who the CEO of Honda or VW are but Elon Musk I do and he is jerk and that can't help the branding.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 17 April 2021 04:12 (three years ago) link

and "do it all" is good if all of the things includes big transformative projects, but if its just cover for thinking that a grab bag of corporate friendly incremental solutions is going to forestall environmental catastrophe maybe its better to not do it all

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 April 2021 04:17 (three years ago) link

xpost

also promoting bitcoin which will cancel out any possible gains from evs

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 17 April 2021 04:18 (three years ago) link

^ in months prob

mining the metal to make a new car still pollutes more than the car will do over the rest of its life afaik

The automotive industry and oil industry just failed to move on quickly enough to ensure... human survival.

damn, and they tried so hard to do so :(

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 17 April 2021 04:19 (three years ago) link

i know the US is currently the major carbon emitter here, but this discussion ignores that it doesn't have most of the cars, and there are a bunch of countries culturally/economically/geographically well suited to transit, and pushing electrification of private vehicles in those countries is climate arson.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 17 April 2021 04:19 (three years ago) link

electrification of private vehicles not just incrementalism, it's a local minimum that will trap us (like a lot of mainstream liberal policies in the US, btw.)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 17 April 2021 04:20 (three years ago) link

i mean, in the next 10-20 years we'll start to see mass population migration in the US, so I guess we've got a chance to resettle people into dense urban environments.

lukas, Saturday, 17 April 2021 04:23 (three years ago) link

people already want to live those places thats why theyre so expensive we just need to build more

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 April 2021 04:27 (three years ago) link

electrification of private vehicles not just incrementalism, it's a local minimum that will trap us (like a lot of mainstream liberal policies in the US, btw.)

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, April 17, 2021 12:20 AM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

year cars really are just a disaster on so many levels

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 April 2021 04:27 (three years ago) link

people already want to live those places thats why theyre so expensive we just need to build more

I do see some movement in my state to make that happen. I wish it would happen faster. I'm pitching in where I can in my city, although as my debating style here indicates I'm probably more of a liability in public forums. I dunno, I'm pessimistic.

lukas, Saturday, 17 April 2021 04:31 (three years ago) link

history is full of way more lost causes that won out keep giving em hell

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 April 2021 04:34 (three years ago) link

if your state is california then i think you are right to be pessimistic about changes in land use. it's just not in anyone important's short term financial interest.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 17 April 2021 04:43 (three years ago) link

still, i do see a lot of teslas here in america's least affordable city!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 17 April 2021 04:43 (three years ago) link

If Elon Musk gets lost in space will TESLA still go on??

Or is it a pharaoh company that depends on a magical leader

| (Latham Green), Sunday, 18 April 2021 11:45 (three years ago) link

‘No one was driving the car’: 2 men dead after fiery Tesla crash in Spring, officials say

Herman said authorities believe no one else was in the car and that it burst into flames immediately. He said it he believes it wasn’t being driven by a human.

Harris County Constable Precinct 4 deputies said the vehicle was traveling at a high speed when it failed to negotiate a cul-de-sac turn, ran off the road and hit the tree.

KPRC 2 reporter Deven Clarke spoke to one man’s brother-in-law who said he was taking the car out for a spin with his best friend, so there were just two in the vehicle.

The owner, he said, backed out of the driveway, and then may have hopped in the back seat only to crash a few hundred yards down the road. He said the owner was found in the back seat upright.

The brother-in-law of one of the victims said relatives watched the car burn for four hours as authorities tried to tap out the flames.

Authorities said they used 32,000 gallons of water to extinguish the flames because the vehicle’s batteries kept reigniting. At one point, Herman said, deputies had to call Tesla to ask them how to put out the fire in the battery.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 19 April 2021 05:34 (three years ago) link

elon stays winning

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Monday, 19 April 2021 05:55 (three years ago) link

deputies had to call Tesla to ask them how to put out the fire in the battery.

Operators are standing by.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 April 2021 12:47 (three years ago) link

we didn't start the fire. It's been always burnin since the teslas aren't turnin.

microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 19 April 2021 13:35 (three years ago) link

"I talked to my supervisor and he says you guys are pedophiles"

frogbs, Monday, 19 April 2021 13:38 (three years ago) link

the car's on fire, and there's no driver at the wheel

mookieproof, Monday, 19 April 2021 13:41 (three years ago) link

The brother-in-law of one of the victims said relatives watched the car burn for four hours as authorities tried to tap out the flames.

they watched their relatives burn to death? eesh

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Monday, 19 April 2021 14:09 (three years ago) link

if Elon gets stoned today, 60% chance he tweets about how Teslas are great value because they save you the cost of a crematory

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 19 April 2021 20:21 (three years ago) link

deputies had to call Tesla to ask them how to put out the fire in the battery.

The advice is “you don’t.” Look at the firefighting section in the manual:

https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/downloads/2016_Model_S_Emergency_Response_Guide_en.pdf

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 00:15 (three years ago) link

idgi?

FIREFIGHTING

USE WATER TO FIGHT A HIGH VOLTAGE BATTERY FIRE. If the battery catches fire, is exposed to high heat, or is generating heat orgases, use large amounts of water to cool the battery. It can take approximately 3,000 gallons (11,356 liters) of water, applied directly to the battery, to fully extinguish and cool down a battery fire; always establish or request an additional water supply. If water is not immediately available, use dry chemicals, CO2, foam, or another typical fire-extinguishing agent to fight the fire until water is available.Apply water directly to the battery. If safety permits, lift or tilt the vehicle for more direct access to the battery. Apply water inside the battery ONLY if a natural opening (such as a vent or opening from a collision) already exists. Do not open the battery for the purpose of cooling it.

Extinguish small fires that do not involve the high voltage battery using typical vehicle firefighting procedures

Authorities said they used 32,000 gallons of water to extinguish the flames because the vehicle’s batteries kept reigniting.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 01:42 (three years ago) link

seems like it wouldnt be great if one of these caught fire inside some sort of structure

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 01:43 (three years ago) link

three car fires = Armageddon for the globe's water supply

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 01:58 (three years ago) link

Honestly shocked that li-ion fires haven't already caused devastating problems. But now we have huge concentrations of them moving around at high speed.

fajita seas, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 02:01 (three years ago) link

clearly the solution is to push every accident victim and their vehicle to the bottom of the ocean

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 02:16 (three years ago) link

xp most RVs use the LiFePo4 formula without cobalt, which is much safer

"Gaspar? No way." (sleeve), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 03:25 (three years ago) link

had to share this, how is this thing legal?

lotta people asking about the loop "how do you get out of the tesla in an emergency when the tunnel is so narrow" without understanding that it's actually impossible to leave the backseat of a tesla in an emergency even on a regular road pic.twitter.com/1kS13oeg1I

— Well There's Your Problem Podcast (@wtyppod) April 20, 2021

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 23 April 2021 08:21 (three years ago) link

The War on Cars podcast did a blow-by-blow breakdown of that terrible gushing news segment on the tunnel. While Twitter might offer better zings, it was still good for a deep dive on exactly how dumb and overhyped this thing is.

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Friday, 23 April 2021 12:46 (three years ago) link

He should dig an emergency failsafe tunnel that runs parallel to the first one. And then a third one as well, just to be safe. And then more and more until he's hollowed out the earth and we get a giant one of these:

https://i.gifer.com/Q6ao.gif

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 April 2021 12:56 (three years ago) link

dude the earth is already hollow

lag∞n, Friday, 23 April 2021 14:25 (three years ago) link

the earth is thicc

Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 April 2021 14:28 (three years ago) link

So, yeah, he's hosting SNL.

o. nate, Monday, 26 April 2021 20:03 (two years ago) link

People on here hate Elon Musk because he has unbundled decarbonization from pious attitudes about decarbonization. https://t.co/fHrmENSHZe

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) April 25, 2021

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Monday, 26 April 2021 20:50 (two years ago) link

a tweet that will make you want to throw your device out the window.

musk seems to be a true bipartisan hit. lots of libs that love him because of technocracy and internet-nerd-right think he's epic

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Monday, 26 April 2021 20:53 (two years ago) link

People who are mad about Elon Musk hosting SNL need to understand that hosting SNL is *not* an endorsement, for example Adolf Hitler hosted SNL in 1938

— pixelatedboat aka “mr tweets” (@pixelatedboat) April 24, 2021

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Monday, 26 April 2021 20:53 (two years ago) link

It is actually not hard to think that the success of Tesla (which has to do with a lot of people not named Elon Musk in addition to Elon Musk) is a very good thing for the environment and the future while also think that Elon Musk, the person himself, seems like a big asshole, I don't see why this is supposed to set up some kind of Captain-Kirk-destroying-the-computer logical doom loop

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 26 April 2021 20:57 (two years ago) link

It is actually not hard to think that the success of Tesla (which has to do with a lot of people not named Elon Musk in addition to Elon Musk) is a very good thing for the environment and the future

it's also not hard to not think this at all

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 26 April 2021 20:59 (two years ago) link

I still find it incredible that apparently a Tesla's back doors can't be easily opened if the power is cut off. Or, one presumes, if the power is off and the car is on fire.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 April 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link

It is actually not hard to think that the success of Tesla (which has to do with a lot of people not named Elon Musk in addition to Elon Musk) is a very good thing for the environment and the future

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, April 26, 2021 4:57 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol yeah it is easy to think that, prob why so many people do

lag∞n, Monday, 26 April 2021 21:10 (two years ago) link

xp woah, let's not write the snl sketches for them

devil sticks in trench coat (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 26 April 2021 21:13 (two years ago) link

whoa

devil sticks in trench coat (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 26 April 2021 21:13 (two years ago) link

Elon Musk is one of the biggest obstacles to the acceptance of a post-personal-car world, which is what we really need more than anything. Don't think he gives a shit about climate change, electric cars are just the new thing, if this were the 30s he'd be selling asbestos and CFCs.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Monday, 26 April 2021 21:15 (two years ago) link

ive seen "elon musk's brother looks like ted bundy" online

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Monday, 26 April 2021 21:46 (two years ago) link

food is the new internet

lag∞n, Monday, 26 April 2021 21:46 (two years ago) link

elon musk's brother is a minor character on dallas

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 April 2021 21:48 (two years ago) link

Don't think he gives a shit about climate change

Who gives a shit about what he gives a shit about?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 26 April 2021 22:06 (two years ago) link

double Weingarten, maximum damage

Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 April 2021 22:07 (two years ago) link

Don't think he gives a shit about climate change

Who gives a shit about what he gives a shit about?

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, April 26, 2021 3:06 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

he is an extremely rich and powerful person so ...

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Monday, 26 April 2021 22:08 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/VK6kgV1.gif

BrianB, Monday, 26 April 2021 22:08 (two years ago) link

If Elon and his brother had a baby (get working on that tech, Elon), he might look like Dwight Yoakam:

http://www.latimes.com/includes/projects/hollywood/portraits/dwight_yoakam.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 April 2021 22:09 (two years ago) link

double Weingarten, maximum damage

― Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Monday, April 26, 2021 6:07 PM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol

lag∞n, Monday, 26 April 2021 22:20 (two years ago) link

It is actually not hard to think that the success of Tesla (which has to do with a lot of people not named Elon Musk in addition to Elon Musk) is a very good thing for the environment

hahahaha no

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 26 April 2021 22:34 (two years ago) link

Space X has pulled off some pretty wild shit but Musk comes off like a total choad. I kind of hope they get the rockets to Mars working as there is a bunch of mf'ers I would like to get sent off the Earth as soon as possible.

earlnash, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 01:27 (two years ago) link

go to mars bitch

— br◎seph (@on3ness) June 24, 2019

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 01:30 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/dfzbMN1.jpeg

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 02:51 (two years ago) link

wrong thread but it probably works anywhere

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 02:52 (two years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 03:32 (two years ago) link

Musk is really the Platonic ideal of a choad, for me.

assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 03:36 (two years ago) link

Don't think he gives a shit about climate change

Who gives a shit about what he gives a shit about?

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, April 26, 2021 11:06 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

people who say he's doing good things for the environment

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 14:15 (two years ago) link

https://www.wsj.com/articles/tesla-makes-more-money-trading-bitcoin-than-selling-cars-11619517615

$101mn in Bitcoin trading, $500mn in selling emissions credits and -$77mn in actually selling cars.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 28 April 2021 15:49 (two years ago) link

idk what this guy is talking about all the time its a little bit inside baseball but he seems to be alleging that theres no evidence that tesla has actually sold all those credits

After some looking into China NEV program. Since there is speculation $tsla got paid by VW in China to the tune of 100s of millions in Q1.

Again, there are no receipts and all bound by confidentiality agreement. There was reuters report but no comment by either.
Let's look.

— Mindful Capitalist (aka socialist) (@HappiestYogi) April 28, 2021

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 April 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link

Where tesla has been making a packet in credits is Europe, they sell them to other car makers who can’t make their emissions targets, whatever else you say about tesla, getting your competitors to subsidise your products is a pretty good trick whilst it lasts.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Thursday, 29 April 2021 04:14 (two years ago) link

people who say he's doing good things for the environment

🤣🤣

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) April 29, 2021

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 1 May 2021 08:52 (two years ago) link

in that thread, the same moronic argument I've seen used to justify NFTs, it must have gone out in a crypto newsletter or something

Before you get triggered, educate yourself on the basics of Bitcoin mining and how it consumes magnitudes less energy than the existing financial system👇https://t.co/Qh4ATx4x5m

— Dan Held (@danheld) April 29, 2021

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 1 May 2021 08:57 (two years ago) link

ahh

lag∞n, Sunday, 2 May 2021 15:48 (two years ago) link

also please tell me that Elon isn't writing his own skits

Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Sunday, 2 May 2021 15:49 (two years ago) link

they should let him tho

lag∞n, Sunday, 2 May 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link

world's first 2 hour Dogecoin sketch

Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Sunday, 2 May 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link

looked at the thread and he's enthusiastically approving and ineptly yes-anding people's dogecoin suggestions

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 2 May 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link

he's gonna pump the price and then sell all of his Doge live on tv and lead to a massive selloff

the SEC will be too busy laughing to care

Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Sunday, 2 May 2021 18:26 (two years ago) link

I hope they let him do his doge coin skit, and it becomes his adrian brody snl moment

If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 2 May 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link

looked that up: yikes and loool

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 2 May 2021 19:24 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/5SsglPc.jpg

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 8 May 2021 07:33 (two years ago) link

dog coin is down 25% already

frogbs, Sunday, 9 May 2021 03:54 (two years ago) link

he has got to be the most boring and awkward man on the planet. even Prince Phillip has more charisma than this guy. and I don't mean Prince Phillip last month

frogbs, Sunday, 9 May 2021 04:28 (two years ago) link

this is some exquisite torture

cerebral halsey (rip van wanko), Sunday, 9 May 2021 04:35 (two years ago) link

has Aykroyd really never hosted? I guess it wasn't ~expected~ of breakout stars to come back and bless the show in his day

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 9 May 2021 12:11 (two years ago) link

I dunno, Chevy Chase came back. if he never did I bet there's a story there.

Ackroyd hosted in 2003.

Musk was painfully bad but Ill attribute his mannerisms to Aspergers which I honestly didn't know he had (not that it makes me like him any more; actually I don't hate him as much as everyone else, he's a billionaire fool who has some good tech and whose company would likely do better without him). I turned off after that Mario bit, wtf was that.

akm, Sunday, 9 May 2021 15:15 (two years ago) link

awesome to be one of the most powerful people in the world and never mention that youre autistic or try to improve the lives of autistic people in any way then bring it up to deflect the fact that youre going to suck on tv lol

lag∞n, Sunday, 9 May 2021 15:44 (two years ago) link

one of my best friends guessed a month ago he figured Elon had Aspergers (he has two autistic grown children, so he's very familiar).

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Sunday, 9 May 2021 15:54 (two years ago) link

I thought Asperger's was no longer an existing diagnosis

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 9 May 2021 16:40 (two years ago) link

Also, I've never heard this guy talk before, does he have a South African accent or does he not? He seemed to at first and then it went away?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 9 May 2021 16:46 (two years ago) link

seems likely this is a self diagnosis cause neither he nor anyone associated with him, a man who has multiple books and countless articles written about him, has ever mentioned it before, it wouldnt be a recent thing since its been defunct as an official diagnosis for the better part of a decade

lag∞n, Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:19 (two years ago) link

he could just be lying for personal gain

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link

yep

lag∞n, Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link

jfc

The defense calls Wario. pic.twitter.com/D2ANjRmbMO

— Saturday Night Live - SNL (@nbcsnl) May 9, 2021

lag∞n, Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:27 (two years ago) link

Could be real, could be a way to shield himself from criticism for just being a walking cringe factory

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link

some pretty bad tesla news recently that hasnt quite coalesced in popular perception, cld easily be more to come too

lag∞n, Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link

Babylon Bee should pivot to video and let Elon be their Tosh just to really put the nail in his cultural capital coffin

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link

elon musk should become the editor of https://www.houstonchronicle.com/

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:38 (two years ago) link

not for any particular reason, it's just a really mediocre landing spot

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:38 (two years ago) link

this to me is the big one

Here's something I always like to share randomly at 11:30pm ET/8:30pm PT on a Saturday night — Elon Musk lied about Tesla's self-driving capabilities which artificially inflated the company's stock valuation and caused the deaths of several human drivers https://t.co/nF47ZnVZpI

— Alissa Walker (@awalkerinLA) May 9, 2021

lag∞n, Sunday, 9 May 2021 18:04 (two years ago) link

lol wait is this what saturday night live is like?

plax (ico), Sunday, 9 May 2021 18:04 (two years ago) link

yeah, every time i see a SNL clip i'm dumbfounded. maybe if they went every other week the writers would have time to come up with anything at all that is funny

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 9 May 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link

the story thats been told around teslas insane valuation hinges on self driving, becoming new kind of company not just a one that sells cars to consumers, its been common knowledge amongst people who really follow this stuff that a. full self driving is an insanely hard problem thats not close to being solved and b. teslas approach to it is inferior to its competitors, but meanwhile elons been out there saying FSD is just around the corner for years, these documents surfacing right when there are deadly crashes in the news thatre probably self driving related... idk feel like there has to be a reckoning about this stuff at some point

lag∞n, Sunday, 9 May 2021 18:12 (two years ago) link

tesla/musk just seems so shady idk! musk preparing to claim aspergers did it when a major scandal hits??

lag∞n, Sunday, 9 May 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link

you have to understand accounting fraud is my special interest

lag∞n, Sunday, 9 May 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/kAV0ET0bMK

— oatmeal influencer (@acechhh) May 9, 2021

lag∞n, Sunday, 9 May 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link

Might be cynical of me, but the Aspergers thing felt too much like a PR move to shift blame from his most controversial tweets and statements, or to excuse his generally narcissistic behavior.

Now whenever he is acting like an asshole he can just say “sorry, it’s my aspergers”.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 9 May 2021 18:26 (two years ago) link

Getting backlash from the r/autisticpride subreddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AutisticPride/comments/n897kw/just_a_reminder_since_elon_announced_he_has/

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 9 May 2021 18:29 (two years ago) link

He actively campaigns against labour unions. How evil can a person be without people excusing or vouching for him?

braised cod, Sunday, 9 May 2021 18:42 (two years ago) link

yeah, every time i see a SNL clip i'm dumbfounded. maybe if they went every other week the writers would have time to come up with anything at all that is funny

It had been four weeks since they did an episode.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 9 May 2021 18:51 (two years ago) link

so glad he wasn’t born here or he’d probably end up running for president

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 9 May 2021 18:52 (two years ago) link

running

*being*

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 9 May 2021 18:53 (two years ago) link

once again elon musk showed his uncanny ability to wriggle himself into a highly coveted position for which he has no demonstrated talent

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Sunday, 9 May 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link

It’s a real question whether or not he’d be the best Texas governor since Ann Richards if he ran for that.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 9 May 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

looool fuck

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 9 May 2021 19:19 (two years ago) link

but yeah true

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 9 May 2021 19:19 (two years ago) link

Elton musk sucks and so does snl, never gonna watch the clip that confirms these two known facts

Pinefox reviews Reviews (wins), Sunday, 9 May 2021 19:19 (two years ago) link

Elton Musk - Goodbye Yellow Doge Coin

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Sunday, 9 May 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link

I just saw the skit where they rebranded AAVE as "Gen Z-speak" so they could make fun of it and I'm extremely tired

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Sunday, 9 May 2021 19:29 (two years ago) link

GOP gotta be hoping they can become the party of Joe Rogan and Elon Musk and their online standom, and not just one for Lin Wood and Lou Dobs and Marjorie Tay Tay Green.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 9 May 2021 19:30 (two years ago) link

Or shit maybe not. Or maybe both. Big Tentin’

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 9 May 2021 19:30 (two years ago) link

Elon Musk is one of the biggest obstacles to the acceptance of a post-personal-car world, which is what we really need more than anything. Don't think he gives a shit about climate change, electric cars are just the new thing, if this were the 30s he'd be selling asbestos and CFCs.

― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Monday, April 26, 2021 4:15 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is not me defending EM or cars. BUT

i think if you have to significantly reduce emissions in the next 10 years or else bad shit 4ever, theres a more realistic pathway in the US to doing this in that timeframe by electrifying as many vehicles as possible than focusing limited political capital on (and waiting on the completion of) absolutely necessary massive public transportation infrastructure. but then once that phase is done its back to banning cars.

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 10 May 2021 04:23 (two years ago) link

wow sounds like someone who just bought an electric car.... very interesting

lag∞n, Monday, 10 May 2021 04:25 (two years ago) link

lol i did

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 10 May 2021 04:26 (two years ago) link

bc my dumbass city will never build trains without helicopters full of federal money

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 10 May 2021 04:26 (two years ago) link

the thing about musk FWIW is that hes actively advocating against public transpo and in fact trying to undermine it via the boring company and also the dumb vacuum tube idea (not sure if those are the same thing)

if he was just a simple electric car maker dont think people would be giving him shit in this case, but as usual with the ultra wealthy they got to be monkeying around where they dont belong

lag∞n, Monday, 10 May 2021 04:32 (two years ago) link

right. electrification of private cars (i.e. the short term fix) is happening without tesla in most of the world. if can happen without tesla here too.

AND

they are literally fighting the things that really will save us in the long term.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 10 May 2021 04:44 (two years ago) link

to clarify my position: fuck EM (and by extension tesla)

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 10 May 2021 04:48 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgDVdwxBgwY

i hope tesla stops lying about it and i hope they figure out how to do it soon. that guy actually driving a vehicle may be even more dangerous

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 10 May 2021 05:22 (two years ago) link

...
And that brings us back to our back seat Berkeley driver. One of the people who recorded one of his dangerous stunts attempted to contact either the California Highway Patrol or Tesla proper to hold the driver accountable—and was hugely disappointed. From SF Gate:

He purportedly provided the info to Tesla’s customer service, who told him to contact CHP’s Oakland branch. CHP allegedly told him that there was nothing they could do, and to contact 911.

He called CHP’s main complaint line, and the representative allegedly suggested filing a report in-person, with the caveat that it wouldn’t punish the driver. All it would do, he explained, is hit him with a proverbial slap on the wrist — a warning letter to not do it again.

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 10 May 2021 05:24 (two years ago) link

'Back Seat Berkeley Driver' an underrated 69 Love Songs track

If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 10 May 2021 06:52 (two years ago) link

he runs some really great companies:

https://gizmodo.com/elon-musks-spacex-is-reportedly-trying-to-gobble-up-thi-1846850735

there's an even better WSJ article about this, but it is paywalled.

Roughly 14 people not connected to SpaceX currently live in Boca Chica Village and the surrounding area, according to the Journal. One local, Celia Johnson, told the outlet she started having issues with SpaceX employees after rejecting the company’s offer to purchase her two properties located near the launch facility. One of her homes, a rental property, had a 1,600-gallon water tank suddenly vanish in 2019. A few months later, she arrived to find its window shattered by a brick and evidence suggesting that someone had been sleeping there. When she and her neighbors accused SpaceX workers of being the culprits, the company denied responsibility but reimbursed her in both cases.

However, in the meantime, Boca Chica Village residents are apparently getting screwed. Explosions from failed rocket tests have broken home windows, rained down debris, and started brush fires, according to residents who spoke with the Journal. Leading up to launches, locals say SpaceX workers leave them fliers advising them to vacate their homes in case of a potential malfunction. The company has even offered to put them up in a hotel during launches, albeit one 40 miles away (gas and food expenses not included).

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 10 May 2021 14:46 (two years ago) link

Elon Musk sounds like a shitty cologne scent you get in a dollar store

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 May 2021 14:50 (two years ago) link

That SNL skit is execrable. Why is that show still so popular?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 01:00 (two years ago) link

Inertia. Also most popular shows are pretty bad.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 01:38 (two years ago) link

yeah kind of hard to judge the Elon stuff. maybe the show is just that fucking bad now. at least they didn't do "Woke James Bond"

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 01:41 (two years ago) link

Here’s some good SNL discussion

Brilliant: he was invited on air to talk about Elon Musk and instead called out Newsmax for its election lies.

“Newsmax lied to its own viewers and had to settle that lawsuit...Are you still telling that lie or are you telling new lies?”
pic.twitter.com/dIE3uOttrD

— Jan Wolfe (@JanNWolfe) May 10, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 01:43 (two years ago) link

theres no way all of snl can be as bad as that wario sketch

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 01:48 (two years ago) link

The show is really, truly, deeply, almost unremittingly bad.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 02:11 (two years ago) link

everything was fine until g.e. smith left and the saxophone guy took over

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 02:15 (two years ago) link

It was all over when Chevy left.

Van Halen dot Senate dot flashlight (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 02:21 (two years ago) link

I sometimes wonder if I've missed out on anything after I stopped watching when president dumbfuck hosted but I never wonder for very long.

Slime Goobody (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 02:25 (two years ago) link

feels like this current shitty era has far outlasted the dark ages of the early 80s. I basically started avoiding it oh idk some time in 2016 and can’t say I’ve missed it a bit.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 02:37 (two years ago) link

Just read in the Washington Post how NBC was happy with how well the show did in digital media, including social media. Which is funny, since the Post always puts a goddamm recap of every episode with Youtube clips on its front page every Sunday morning.

I don't even click on the twitter links anymore. I see that Wario screencap and think, yeah, I'm pretty sure I can grab the gist of this.

pplains, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 02:40 (two years ago) link

you should watch it its shockingly bad!

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 02:42 (two years ago) link

couldn't bring myself to watch that one but I saw two minutes of "Gen Z Hospital" and it was straight up the worst sketch I've ever seen and I've watched a dozen episodes of Mad TV

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 02:46 (two years ago) link

like it sucked so bad it that wound up becoming racist

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 02:47 (two years ago) link

"Here, smell this milk! I think it's gone bad!"

pplains, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 02:56 (two years ago) link

you should watch it its shockingly bad!

i don't think it's more shockingly bad than a recent simpsons episode to someone who stopped watching around season 10. the idea that SNL was ever good seems to be what the newspapers here call a "falsehood".

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 02:58 (two years ago) link

im not an snl fan or as you say it across the pond supporter but that wario sketch is like barely even recognizable as tv

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 03:01 (two years ago) link

*i do like the sketch "the californians" lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 03:02 (two years ago) link

I've heard of warioware, but wario wear?!

If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 03:08 (two years ago) link

everything was fine until g.e. smith left and the saxophone guy took over

easily the highlight of the dylan show i saw in 1989 despite having fixed leering ghoul visage

mookieproof, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 03:10 (two years ago) link

i don't think it's more shockingly bad than a recent simpsons episode to someone who stopped watching around season 10. the idea that SNL was ever good seems to be what the newspapers here call a "falsehood".

right but the Simpsons is like....an actual TV show. it's not easy to wring humor out of the same sitcom characters for over a decade. SNL turns over half its cast/writers every few years and they can do pretty much anything. you'd think they'd luck into a few funny shows here and there. Key & Peele was watched by fewer people and has had like 10x the amount of viral sketches as SNL during the entire internet era. it's weird how aggressively unfunny it consistently is.

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 03:12 (two years ago) link

the other thing is that it's just a really bad format for a sketch show. like "lets have an extremely competitive cast cobble together a sketch show based on some random celebrity, but all the shows have to be written in a week and must be performed live?" it's as if its designed from the ground up to prevent funny things from happening. I think a lot about "Roundball Rock", which is legitimately very funny (it's one of the Tim Robinson sketches), but like...I can't even make it to the second half. the joke is revealed but there's 6 minutes to go before commercial so there's nothing for the characters to do but just start throwing shit around. if it was an ITYSL sketch it would be 2 minutes

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 03:20 (two years ago) link

lorne michaels hates comedy

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 03:51 (two years ago) link

and so does elon musk

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 03:51 (two years ago) link

haterday night live

class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 03:52 (two years ago) link

im not an snl fan or as you say it across the pond supporter but that wario sketch is like barely even recognizable as tv

I remember when Something Awful would have people do readings of really bizarre fanfics and that's what this sketch resembled to me more than anything (granted this is based on the first 2 minutes that I just watched, I had to tap out after that)

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 04:03 (two years ago) link

Ego Nwodim as the "Woman in a dark place in her life" during Weekend Update made me laugh. So, it was not a complete waste of time.

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 04:10 (two years ago) link

the idea that SNL was ever good seems to be what the newspapers here call a "falsehood".

What Up With That is a thing of pure joy.

SNL turns over half its cast/writers every few years and they can do pretty much anything.

Pretty much anything that Lorne Michaels specifically approves of.

Jost graduated college in 2004, started writing at SNL in 2005, and became co-head-writer in 2012.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 04:28 (two years ago) link

I bought a DVD of Phil Hartman's SNL bits and even that - even him - even their peak - still had some really cringey limp moments. Maybe I just dont get that certain kinda US comedy I dont know.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 05:12 (two years ago) link

this is the only good SNL bit in living memory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVhlJNJopOQ

Number None, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 06:11 (two years ago) link

the show's spirit was broken when lorne put on andrew dice clay over jan hooks and nora dunn imo

dunn did a great, honest intervew a few years ago - https://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/nora_dunn_snl_is_a_traumatic_experience_it’s_something_you_have_to_survive/

where she basically says SNL wasn't a smart enough show to deal with a guy like clay, and it's true. not sure it ever was. but she also says it was the first cast that made it iconic, and everything else since has ridden on though, no matter how talented everyone was. 'the outsiders who became insiders' is a good way of putting it.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 09:28 (two years ago) link

We were lucky because we had a really stable cast. And I think as maybe three seasons went on, Lorne added a couple people, but we weren’t introduced to those people as new cast members. It was very strange. Suddenly there was just another person there. And I think it was very hard for those people. Like, Who are you? What are you doing here? Are you a visitor? Or are you in the cast? Then we got Adam Sandler, and he was pretty much just doing his own thing. A lot of these people came on and just did their standup routines on News Update. We had been an ensemble-type cast, and I think we were at our best when we were working together, and the show started to become solo performances and I started losing interest.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 09:31 (two years ago) link

My theory has long been that SNL’s appeal was that it was the only show comedy fans could follow like a sports team, due to its weird format and wholesale cast changes. Lorne is basically like the team owner. It had its good eras and bad eras – the good eras usually looking better than they felt at the time through the benefit of nostalgia – and people could argue about which cast (team) was the best. But even at its most dire you could still check in from time to time to look for signs of improvement. Somewhere along the way – the run-up to the 2016 election, I think – it’s like they forgot how to scout for talent or the weight of the show’s history and weird cultural role started crushing them and it became unrecognizable to me as comedy. It seems like a celebrity cameo farm with a bunch of theater kids running around. It’s like they’re playing a different sport.

Chris L, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 10:57 (two years ago) link

it’s like they forgot how to scout for talent

There are funny people in the cast who are not typically funny on the show.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 11:00 (two years ago) link

I would agree with that in the case of some of the people who have been on the longest; not Kate McKinnon though, who along with Colin Jost embodies their whole problem.

Chris L, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 11:05 (two years ago) link

Chris L otm, I've never been a sports person but yeah SNL was basically my sports team for most of my life.

Is it possible to use the strikethrough tags on the thread title and just make this another SNL thread, y/n

Slime Goobody (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 11:53 (two years ago) link

It's not a coincidence that the best bits are almost always the pre-recorded bits, which implies the problem is not necessarily the cast or even the writing but what to do with either in the context of a "live" show, with no second takes, no refining, etc. "Murder Durder," for example, was really funny and silly this week (it's the only "skit" I saw) but I don't know if it would have worked live. It needed the look of "Mare" to seal the deal. So yeah, what sic said: there are funny people in the cast who are not typically funny on the show. The question is why? At least Keenan always seems to acknowledge the half-assed absurdity of what he's asked to do. Yang, too, imo. But most of the other people aren't being funny, they're *acting* like they're supposed to be funny, which makes the whole thing feel sort of off balance. Che and Jost are not my faves, but there's a looseness to Weekend Update that often contrasts with the rest of the show's rote parade of fake game-shows or whatever. Maybe that's always been the case, but it seems pretty stark lately.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 12:18 (two years ago) link

I watched like a minute of that Gen Z Hospital shit and, honestly, Musk wasn't much more wooden than any of the cast members featured in that sketch. It was like I was watching some small town's community theater comedy showcase.

Slime Goobody (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 12:23 (two years ago) link

That's a good example of what I was talking about. I have no idea if that skit (which I saw part of over my wife's shoulder, while she was playing it for our Gen Z kid) done well would be funny, but everything is delivered in a stiff and ironic soap opera tone. Which might have been funny in a pre-recorded bit that can rely on the timing of music cues, and edits, a soapy look and melodramatic voiceover, but live was just ... people stiffly saying bro over and over.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 12:28 (two years ago) link

I will go to bat for "Liza Minelli Tries To Turn Off A Lamp"

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 13:42 (two years ago) link

Eh, virtually all long-running sketch shows have an abysmal hit rate. But you will find great sketches and performers in every era. Maybe I'm just an optimist, but I also believe in that "SNL was the best when you were 9 years old!" maxim.

Nhex, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 14:06 (two years ago) link

Most of the time, SNL is fine; not amazing, not terrible, but amusing. Sometimes it's hilarious. Sometimes it's total horseshit (see: this past week).

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 14:12 (two years ago) link

For at least the last 20 years, probably even longer (my warm memories of the early '90s cast from when I was 12-14 clouds my judgment a little) SNL has been 35% absolutely terrible, 55% boring and 10% hilarious. I still think this is the case, it just happens that sometimes the 10% hilarious completely misses an episode or two.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 14:14 (two years ago) link

pretty sure i've written this exact post elsewhere on the board, but i fell in love with early '90s snl via reruns on comedy central and did not realize that i was watching edited-down versions of the show, which i think accounts for at least half of why, when i tuned into snl in 2000 just to see radiohead perform, i was shocked at how... terrible the show was/is

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 14:19 (two years ago) link

i've only caught the odd episode since but it does seem even worse now

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 14:19 (two years ago) link

I feel like "Please laugh" should be their tagline

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 14:22 (two years ago) link

A funny character still needs to be funny.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 14:30 (two years ago) link

fell in love with early '90s snl via reruns on comedy central and did not realize that i was watching edited-down versions of the show

very same here lol

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 14:41 (two years ago) link

For at least the last 20 years, probably even longer (my warm memories of the early '90s cast from when I was 12-14 clouds my judgment a little) SNL has been 35% absolutely terrible, 55% boring and 10% hilarious. I still think this is the case, it just happens that sometimes the 10% hilarious completely misses an episode or two.

otm

And this one keeps me laughing every time I watch it. Nieces and Pets!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb7b5-31LFY

DJI, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 15:32 (two years ago) link

Huh, Grimes was Princess Peach in the Wario skit.

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:04 (two years ago) link

Mario and Wario are not Japanese (although that was the only mildly funny part of the sketch) but Italian immigrants that live in New York (well Mario at least, Wario is italian but there’s no confirmation he also lives in NYC). Princess Peach is definitely not Italian she’s from the Mushroom Kingdom no idea why the Italian accent on her.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:32 (two years ago) link

because Italian bippity boopity amirite

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:33 (two years ago) link

wario is german

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:34 (two years ago) link

so then it's pronounced "var-io"

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:34 (two years ago) link

"Murder Durder," for example, was really funny and silly this week

It wasn’t really funny, it just had an identifiable joke, unlike the rest of the parts I saw. Unfortunately, that joke was 30 Rock’s The Rural Juror.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:35 (two years ago) link

And it was funny for the exact same reason, just hearing them say "murder durder durder murder" over and over again. If it were live it would have been funnier for them breaking.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:37 (two years ago) link

some of their sketches remind me of the dreck that I used to read when I was a judge for a local Playwright Round Table that specialized in short, ten minute plays.

I eventually quit because I couldn't read any more shit sketch writing.

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:38 (two years ago) link

It was initially conceived as a german character with a german accent and words but nintendo changed him to have the same Italian accent Mario has in subsequent games:

https://www.siliconera.com/voice-actor-says-wario-originally-intended-german-character/

Wario Was German:

Wario originally spoke German in Mario Kart 64 -- his voice actor says it's because Nintendo told him Wario was German. But Wario's voice was later re-recorded with an Italian accent, and he's remained Italian ever since.

Full story: https://t.co/Gue1ge4Prj pic.twitter.com/qNSfpVxd7A

— Reggie-800's Nintendo Secrets (@reggie_800) August 26, 2020

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:46 (two years ago) link

that's what baffles me about SNL, no matter what they're lampooning they come off like it's something they just found out about yesterday. like with Donald Trump they were just like "so this guy's like Dan Quayle right? he misspells words and has weird hair? also there's something with him and Russia, can we do something with that?"

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:47 (two years ago) link

Waluigi is half Lithuanian half Tongan iirc

Slime Goobody (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:49 (two years ago) link

xpost - I don't think it's a lack of current, timely news that is the problem, it's figuring out a funny, original take on it that seems to be a challenge

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:53 (two years ago) link

As the review/essay and its citations argue, a big part of that is because every take has to be filtered through the perspective of an extremely rich, petty, fameo-loving man with multiple servants. Plenty of other humans are able to come up with funnier, deeper takes in a shorter timeframe.

As for non-news-based material, Bob Odenkirk argued in the '80s that writing every sketch in three days while sleep-deprived - then throwing away anything that didn't get approved first time - was a bad way of developing material, and proved it by rewriting and developing rejected sketches into an admired show with a better hitrate in the 1990s. Tim Robinson rarely got material onto SNL at all after being demoted from cast member to writer, but five years after that was able to use his rejected material in the most acclaimed sketch show of the last, oh, five years. For the last three years, John Mulaney's guest-hosted episodes of SNL have been widely noted as the best, and in each of those he has used his position to mount sketches that had been rejected during his five years on the show, five years earlier.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 19:46 (two years ago) link

Norm's monologue summarizes it pretty well. "See, they fired me because they said I wasn't funny. But now, this is the weird part, it's only a year and a half later, and now they ask me to host the show! So how did I go, in a year and a half, to not even being allowed in the building, to being so funny, that I'm now hosting the show? Then it occurred to me: I haven't gotten funnier, the show has gotten really bad! So yeah, I'm funny, compared to...well you know, you'll see later"

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 20:02 (two years ago) link

xpost - it's almost as if Lorne's gut reactions to draft skits are uniformly terrible

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link

ok folks lets get back on topic

pls stop the future i want to get off this ride pic.twitter.com/AO4XeMCGe1

— Charlie Warzel (@cwarzel) May 8, 2021

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link

well another thing is SNL skits last like 6-8 minutes, once the joke is revealed there's little for the characters to do but just yell at each other and start throwing shit. last time I watched a full episode there were a couple where I thought "did this end 2 minutes ago and they're just improvising to fill time?"

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 20:10 (two years ago) link

there must be an snl thread

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 20:14 (two years ago) link

there is but fuck Elon Musk, we can discuss anything that sucks in here

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 20:16 (two years ago) link

michael o'donoghue would've told musk what's what!

If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 20:28 (two years ago) link

i love elon musk erasure

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 20:49 (two years ago) link

always, don't wanna be with him

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 20:53 (two years ago) link

muskerasure love

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 20:53 (two years ago) link

who is Elon Musk

Clay, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 20:53 (two years ago) link

I believe he's a wacky one-note Jon Lovitz character who quickly outwore his welcome, like Master Thespian

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 21:02 (two years ago) link

Loads of wasted hate on SNL that would be better used directed at Elon Musk.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 02:15 (two years ago) link

We have plenty of hate to dispense like Pez

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 02:21 (two years ago) link

Elon Musk......you look marvelous

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 02:52 (two years ago) link

*abandons failed autonomous-driving program*

"I HATE when I do that!"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 02:55 (two years ago) link

turns out the autopilot may not have been to blame in the recent crash. instead it seems like a terrifying design flaw that seems related to the fact that ... you can't open the rear doors when the car is one fire because they require power?

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/05/ntsb-finds-no-reason-to-suspect-autopilot-in-fatal-tesla-crash/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 03:25 (two years ago) link

As for why the driver was not found in his seat, one troubling possibility is that the front door was inoperable or obstructed and the driver died while trying to escape from the rear of the Model S. Unlike most cars, Tesla uses IP-based electronic door locks that fail if the car loses power (as it would have in this crash). Although the front door handles will continue to work in an emergency that cuts power to the car, under such conditions the rear doors of a Model S can only be opened using a plastic tab found in the rear footwell.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 03:25 (two years ago) link

But it's ok the autopilot works

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 03:31 (two years ago) link

yes, let's trap those in seats typically reserved for the most vulnerable passengers

If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link

gets lost in all the hubbub that teslas are poorly made cars

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 15:49 (two years ago) link

like tesla wanted huge dashboard screens but there was nothing that big available in automotive quality so they just used regular screens and now they break at an insane rate, tons of stuff like that thats the result of doing startup culture to a car company

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 15:53 (two years ago) link

im sure ive said this before but a lot of its been papered over by the fact that teslas have always been expensive toys sold to rich people who own more than one car, but now theyre selling ~$30k cars that people need to drive every day

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link

When I think about Tesla engineering I remember Chris Lattner left after just six months:

https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/20/15844280/tesla-autopilot-software-chris-lattner-ai-quit

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link

“Turns out that Tesla isn't a good fit for me after all,” lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link

Tesla reporting is a useful reminder that the technology press has no relationship with technologists.

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 16:43 (two years ago) link

yeah its pretty much just straight business or consumer reporting

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 16:50 (two years ago) link

elon is unstable

Tesla & Bitcoin pic.twitter.com/YSswJmVZhP

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 12, 2021

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 22:15 (two years ago) link

hahahahahaha omg

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 22:16 (two years ago) link

haha

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 22:17 (two years ago) link

🧐

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 22:18 (two years ago) link

lol he really is just joker mode and fucking with the world

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 22:19 (two years ago) link

hey good for them but uh I suspect there's a more uh...legal reason for this decision

frogbs, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 22:19 (two years ago) link

lmao that one tweet wiped out like $10 billion in value

frogbs, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 22:24 (two years ago) link

haa

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 22:27 (two years ago) link

maybe it was a big mistake to base an entire financial system on this man's ramblings

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 22:28 (two years ago) link

maybe not, though!

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 22:28 (two years ago) link

hey good for them but uh I suspect there's a more uh...legal reason for this decision

And that alone is deeply amusing.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 22:30 (two years ago) link

buy the dip!

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 22:35 (two years ago) link

i think levine is right about what he's up to here

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-04-28/elon-musk-made-tesla-some-money-on-bitcoin

I think that, if you can reliably do that — if you are Elon Musk and you can make Bitcoin go up by tweeting about it — you almost have an obligation to do it? Perhaps a fiduciary obligation to your shareholders, but at least a sort of aesthetic obligation to comedy. If Bitcoin wants Musk to manipulate it, Musk really ought to manipulate it...

Musk is in the nice position of being able to spend billions of dollars buying assets in liquid anonymous markets, and then make those assets go up just by tweeting about them. If you can do that, you should! If you can buy a thing secretly, announce “I own the thing,” reliably cause the thing’s price to go up a lot, and then — if you want — sell the thing secretly, then that’s a great business right there. Talk about clean energy; that’s a perpetual motion machine.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 22:36 (two years ago) link

except that he seems to have opted out of the rinse and repeat cycle of it, tho you never know with old elon, also some ppl seems to think there may be be regulator issues at play but idk what those would be

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 22:42 (two years ago) link

theres also this theory

People make the faulty assumption that @elonmusk is not trying to blow up the system and there are too many absolutely fucking insane people and they are not allowing him to do it.

— Mindful Capitalist (aka socialist) (@HappiestYogi) May 9, 2021

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 22:43 (two years ago) link

ethereum dudes are in heaven right now

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 22:57 (two years ago) link

Bitcoin Plunge Reveals Possible Vulnerabilities In Crazy Imaginary Internet Money https://t.co/Nrz4jFO0op pic.twitter.com/0oDDbL8VgQ

— The Onion (@TheOnion) May 12, 2021

frogbs, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 22:59 (two years ago) link

ethereum dudes are in heaven right now

this pains me

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 23:01 (two years ago) link

we really should bring out the guillotines just to shut these guys up

We at https://t.co/VUydpLFzGh will continue to accept BTC/Eth/Doge because we know that replacing Gold as a store of value will help the environment https://t.co/bs7NvnJY8A and https://t.co/ELhbuLOBRV shrinking big bank and coin usage will benefit society and the environment https://t.co/zu08F0STEQ

— Mark Cuban (@mcuban) May 12, 2021

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 23:08 (two years ago) link

love when all the crazed rich guys are competing to see who can be the most jokered

Clay, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 23:20 (two years ago) link

I think it's good to have a currency system fluctuates based on how good Saturday Night Live is

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 23:21 (two years ago) link

definitely a good sign that literally nobody believes this has a thing to do with the environment

frogbs, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 23:23 (two years ago) link

Just guessing, but the real reason is probably something like: BTC is impractical as a form of payment, the expected boost to sales from people wanting to pay with BTC never happened, and the operational risks of dealing with BTC were too high to justify continuing the policy for the tiny number of sales happening.

o. nate, Thursday, 13 May 2021 13:21 (two years ago) link

It does seem like a pain in the ass merely from an accounting perspective

rob, Thursday, 13 May 2021 13:23 (two years ago) link

yeah its not —frictionless— to cash out and its highly volatile so you might think youre selling a car for 70k but really you sold it for 69 (nice), also elon is prob manipulating the market, i mean hes definitely manipulating the market and this is probably part of that

lag∞n, Thursday, 13 May 2021 13:44 (two years ago) link

it happens a lot with cashouts on the poker site I'm on. you can only cash out in Bitcorn now, and sometimes your withdrawal won't be processed until like 3 in the morning, so when you wake up your $1000 is somewhere between $900-$1100. I was actually planning to cash out some this week, glad I held off now lol

frogbs, Thursday, 13 May 2021 13:56 (two years ago) link

great “currency”, seems really useful

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 May 2021 13:59 (two years ago) link

when I was offshore betting on sports a few years ago, it was the same thing. paying in Bitcoin.

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 May 2021 14:02 (two years ago) link

As every that has read my $TSLAQ posts about Emissions Credits being made up revenues, I focused on what seemed like impossible numbers in 2018-2019.
I decided to look how far back this goes.

— Mindful Capitalist (aka socialist) (@HappiestYogi) May 1, 2021

lag∞n, Thursday, 13 May 2021 14:27 (two years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAhXpYyXkAAe_I8.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 May 2021 15:19 (two years ago) link

Everyone thinks overnight ACH was a byproduct of startups like Venmo. In fact, the Fed opened up overnight ACH and nobody used it. It wasn’t until regulators stopped banks from holding onto funds to earn the maximum amount of interest possible that they became “consumer friendly.”

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 13 May 2021 15:43 (two years ago) link

They were doing this when it earned fractions of a cent from interest. Now imagine a situation where the “currency” fluctuates by 10% hourly.

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 13 May 2021 15:45 (two years ago) link

replacing Gold as a store of value

This happened last century. He must have blinked.

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Thursday, 13 May 2021 18:19 (two years ago) link

hes back baby

Working with Doge devs to improve system transaction efficiency. Potentially promising.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 13, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 14 May 2021 14:58 (two years ago) link

Cool system that this dude can just tweet and manipulate the market every couple of days.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 14 May 2021 14:59 (two years ago) link

its pretty incredible

lag∞n, Friday, 14 May 2021 14:59 (two years ago) link

youd think at some point hed wear out his welcome but really who knows

lag∞n, Friday, 14 May 2021 15:00 (two years ago) link

god I wish this was at least a little funnier

rob, Friday, 14 May 2021 16:45 (two years ago) link

one of those things thats very funny but its drowned out by the profound horror of it

lag∞n, Friday, 14 May 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link

jack mad

#bitcoin changes *everything*…for the better.

And we will forever work to make bitcoin better. https://t.co/wssrF2U0P0

— jack (@jack) May 14, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 14 May 2021 21:16 (two years ago) link

what does it make better??

they always say shit like that then never say why

frees you from big fiat obvs

lag∞n, Friday, 14 May 2021 21:19 (two years ago) link

I've started to incorporate it in my lovemaking

frogbs, Friday, 14 May 2021 21:35 (two years ago) link

come on, it's simple. bitcoin is good because it makes tech people money. tech people having more money = better world, it's science.

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 May 2021 21:41 (two years ago) link

its true it is science

plax (ico), Friday, 14 May 2021 23:11 (two years ago) link

it also provides a convenient method of money laundering for criminal enterprises. the dece money tech people are making from it is something like the big tip left for restaurant staff.

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Saturday, 15 May 2021 00:09 (two years ago) link

musk is always up to something

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 May 2021 12:03 (two years ago) link

amazing that he managed to become the richest man of all time off the back of some ropey and transparent scams

plax (ico), Saturday, 15 May 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link

Ideally, Doge speeds up block time 10X, increases block size 10X & drops fee 100X. Then it wins hands down.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 16, 2021

lag∞n, Sunday, 16 May 2021 01:52 (two years ago) link

And a free toaster for first time customers opening an account!

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Sunday, 16 May 2021 01:54 (two years ago) link

later: dumping doge because of enviromental problems he always cared about

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 16 May 2021 01:58 (two years ago) link

but i would also say that if cadillac speeds up production by 10x, increases sales by 10x, and drops fee 100x, they will also win hands down.

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 16 May 2021 01:59 (two years ago) link

what a visionary

eisimpleir (crüt), Sunday, 16 May 2021 02:05 (two years ago) link

Ideally,

Clay, Sunday, 16 May 2021 02:05 (two years ago) link

ideally elon would give me one million dollars ten million dollars and a billion dollars, if he did that i would be rich hands down

lag∞n, Sunday, 16 May 2021 02:13 (two years ago) link

It is once again hard to argue with the science

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 16 May 2021 02:14 (two years ago) link

ideally,

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 16 May 2021 02:21 (two years ago) link

wait... what if they sped up block time 100X??

eisimpleir (crüt), Sunday, 16 May 2021 02:24 (two years ago) link

that would be a 10X win

lag∞n, Sunday, 16 May 2021 02:27 (two years ago) link

what's crazy is, what if they sped up block time 110X? you see where i'm going with this

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 16 May 2021 02:33 (two years ago) link

it's exponential

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 16 May 2021 02:33 (two years ago) link

amazing that he managed to become the richest man of all time

Investopedia (updated May 2021) begs to differ:

1: Jeff Bezos... an estimated net worth of $197 billion, he is the richest man in the world

2: Elon Musk... estimated net worth is $152 billion.

3: Bernard Arnault... estimated net worth is $150 billion.

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Sunday, 16 May 2021 03:26 (two years ago) link

Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, !!!!
Accum-u-LATE, Accum-u-LATE, Accum-u-LATE, Accum-u-LATE, Accum-u-LATE, Accum-u-LATE, !!!!

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 16 May 2021 03:48 (two years ago) link

i think we can all agree that all these guys should have more money

Clay, Sunday, 16 May 2021 04:52 (two years ago) link

Bezos sits inside the service yacht, aboard the main yacht, reading the coverage of the yacht on his yacht

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 16 May 2021 05:03 (two years ago) link

the idea that these people have all this money is always so hilarious to me. they kindof dont really. what are they going to do, take 50billion out of the atm? all you can do with it after a certain point really is buy some worthless app company called Ploom or Burdl (expected IPO value 12bn.) so whats the difference between having like 50bn or 100bn or like 200tn? its the same.

plax (ico), Sunday, 16 May 2021 07:44 (two years ago) link

Billionaires shouldn't exist. The rich cause society to be twisted to server their wants rather than the needs of everyone else.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Sunday, 16 May 2021 09:40 (two years ago) link

whats the difference between having like 50bn or 100bn or like 200tn? its the same.

it has nothing to do with purchasing anything you want or need for yourself or for any of your 1000 closest family and friends (most of these billionaires barely have family and have no friends). it has everything to do with having enough personal power to shape the present society and its future, through corporations and foundations that will bear your name and vision in perpetuity. basically, it feeds their megalomania.

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Sunday, 16 May 2021 19:27 (two years ago) link

Kind of hilarious how pissed Bitcoin twitter is with Elon right now.

o. nate, Monday, 17 May 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link

How confidence looks like ❤️ pic.twitter.com/CbMN5F6Csw

— Alex (@alex_avoigt) May 17, 2021

lag∞n, Monday, 17 May 2021 21:50 (two years ago) link

A Tesla in autopilot mode crashed into a deputy's patrol car in Washington, causing significant damage.https://t.co/3mK37E6j9G

— KATU News (@KATUNews) May 17, 2021

Joe Bombin (milo z), Monday, 17 May 2021 22:55 (two years ago) link

comrade autopilot thank u 4 ur service

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 17 May 2021 22:56 (two years ago) link

tesla is good now

lag∞n, Monday, 17 May 2021 23:02 (two years ago) link

lol

sleeve, Monday, 17 May 2021 23:25 (two years ago) link

Serious question cos I have no freaking idea how any of this works - is it likely Musk is manipulating the markets on purpose and then buying cheap stock in the dip? Isnt that trackable and illegal?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 00:06 (two years ago) link

Bitcoin and Ethereum aren't publicly traded. Maybe some sort of related company though.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 00:09 (two years ago) link

Economist Nouriel Roubini is accusing Elon Musk of market manipulation and stating that the SEC (U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission) should investigate.

The basis of Roubini's accusations stems from Elon Musk's tweets. Roubini accuses Elon of using his Twitter platform to pump up the price.

"For somebody like Elon Musk, who knows he has the market impact to manipulate, first take an individual position in Bitcoin, pump the price up, and then say that Tesla has invested."

"And Tesla doesn't make any money yet, it's also irresponsible, and it's market manipulation. The SEC should be looking into people that have a market impact, and that manipulate the price of assets. That's also criminal behavior"

Commenting on @Tesla's $1.5 billion bitcoin buy on #CDTV First Mover this morning, @Nouriel said it's "criminal behavior" for Elon Musk to take an individual stance on bitcoin to pump up the price before announcing Tesla's investment.

"Talk about a criminal enterprise." pic.twitter.com/aSHPX5ayHM

— CoinDesk (@CoinDesk) February 10, 2021

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 00:20 (two years ago) link

unlikely hes manipulating tesla stock but hes very obviously manipulating crypto

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 00:21 (two years ago) link

xps buying cheap stock in the dip?

here's what I understand about it. first, cryptocurrency markets are not regulated afaik and there are no cryptocurrency stocks to directly speculate in, just the currency itself. however, i've seen that tesla's reported profits have been strongly tied to their acceptance of cryptocurrency in sales transactions. tesla can then choose when and how they liquidate their crypto holdings into dollars in those unregulated markets, so if they (through musk) are manipulating those markets, they could easily maximize their resulting profits. seems like speculators could also be using tesla stock as a proxy to speculate in what amounts to a rigged cryptocurrency market.

I think the SEC can't do a thing about it, as long as tesla accurately discloses its reliance on cryptocurrency as part of their source of profits.

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 00:26 (two years ago) link

tesla bought a bunch of bitcoin, and musk has been personally messing with doge, kinda doubt too much of their sales are in bitcoin

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 00:28 (two years ago) link

so tesla's directly speculating in an unregulated market. cool.

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 00:29 (two years ago) link

im no big city lawyer, i dont really know what meets the criteria of market manipulation, but def seems like theres some fishy stuff going on

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 00:31 (two years ago) link

Did I post this or did I dream that I did? Anyway it’s good

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/17/michael-burry-of-the-big-short-reveals-a-530-million-bet-against-tesla.html

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 01:45 (two years ago) link

Yeah sorry stock was the wrong word, its currency trading. I dont think I actually realised it wasnt public trading, either.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 01:58 (two years ago) link

thats a lotta puts baby xp

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 02:06 (two years ago) link

*pushes up glasses* it's actually $500m NOTIONAL value. He didn't put up $500m.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 02:09 (two years ago) link

Also afaict there is little if any regulatory/legal mechanism to prevent crypto manipulation.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 02:12 (two years ago) link

Yeah, that's the point, it's outside those stuffy things like LAWS, maaaaaaan

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 08:41 (two years ago) link

guys cmon be serious just because something is a crypto currency doesnt mean its outside the reach of long arm of the law, they dont have to like formally add each new asset class that comes along to the law books lol, the sec and other government agencies are happy to regulate anything people buy and sell, for instance theres been tons of investigations and prosecution/fining of crypto companies going on the whole time, now that doesnt mean that the crypto ecosystem isnt difficult to regulate due to its lack of transparency and surfeit of scammers at every level cause obvs it is, but my understanding is the government a while ago decided to treat crypto like securities and proceeded accordingly

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 10:25 (two years ago) link

and of course they could bring new laws/resources online to deal with the specifics of crypto which its kind of surprising they havent already, special new crime tools been out there for years lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 10:28 (two years ago) link

not quite as easy to move as the price of doge coin

Giga Berlin suppliers please accelerate!

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 18, 2021

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 11:53 (two years ago) link

I mean yeah you can't like hide all your assets in bitcorn while you're going through a divorce and it's still illegal to scam people but I don't think market manipulation stuff is against the law, it's kind of the one thing bitcoins are really good for

frogbs, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 13:10 (two years ago) link

it most certainly is against the law to manipulate the markets... whatever that means

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 13:15 (two years ago) link

Tell that to the farmers in my town! Every third Saturday, what the hell is that?

pplains, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 13:42 (two years ago) link

i will tell them

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 14:23 (two years ago) link

Thanks to @YIMBY_Princeton for inspiring me to check in on the Tesla forums, this Model Y trim discoloration (apparently caused by touchless car washes) is another classic. https://t.co/HhAaqK4U8l pic.twitter.com/zHbN7eij3k

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) May 18, 2021

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 15:06 (two years ago) link

$TSLA - @elonmusk, you need to get to precision within inches first before you even attempt centimeters.#bitcoin #BTC https://t.co/duPnkKBeqs pic.twitter.com/WZyHzO6dHC

— phoenix10 (smartish) (@phoennix10) May 18, 2021

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 15:08 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/Hn04JBH.png

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link

how many other value analysts do you think there are?

plax (ico), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 11:38 (two years ago) link

I already answered your question.

Neil S, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:16 (two years ago) link

The author posted this video in the comments. It's a truck full of traffic lights. pic.twitter.com/h2LwyL65ck

— FSD in 6 months (@FSD_in_6m) June 2, 2021

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 June 2021 20:08 (two years ago) link

"President Musk says his invasion of Iran is justified, as their leader is hiding a secret program to develop trucks full of traffic lights"

bogo jumbo junbi boba (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 3 June 2021 20:38 (two years ago) link

At least they weren't driving behind this dude:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/be/80/ab/be80ab95c0cfe1630be6c520ccaadf67.png

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 June 2021 20:51 (two years ago) link

Karl please replace the stoplights in that video with little icons of Doof Warriors.

DJI, Thursday, 3 June 2021 21:00 (two years ago) link

I have to say, there's an amazingly huge difference between how these cars look when they drive by you (sleek, great!) and how they look/feel when you sit in them (plasticky, cheap)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 3 June 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link

i think lag000n comparing the model 3 to a nissan was about right.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 3 June 2021 21:15 (two years ago) link

I actually had a long conversation with a Tesla-owning acquaintance over the weekend, and he loves his car. If there's any real criticism he has, or at least conceded, it's that the car components are indeed pretty cheap compared to similarly priced luxury cars. There were one or two other little things that bugged him, too, but he was otherwise really positive about the last year and a half of Tesla ownership. I still think that the biggest game changers are not the design/car, per se, but features that could be implemented by competitors for a lower price some time in the near future. He said he felt comfortable being part of what he considers an experiment. He professed not to be a Musk sycophant, fwiw, but he thinks the guy is a Jobs like genius. Which I guess tracks, as Jobs was an asshole weirdo, too.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 June 2021 21:20 (two years ago) link

please don't mock my former upstairs neighbour

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 3 June 2021 21:23 (two years ago) link

dang xpost, Steve Jobs did not live above me

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 3 June 2021 21:24 (two years ago) link

Now into CumRocket coins

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 14:43 (two years ago) link

He professed not to be a Musk sycophant, fwiw, but he thinks the guy is a Jobs like genius

hopefully musk has similar thoughts on personal health care

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Saturday, 5 June 2021 14:58 (two years ago) link

Now we have No Jobs, No Hope, and No Musk

eisimpleir (crüt), Saturday, 5 June 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link

Don't get me wrong, I could easily see myself buying a car from Tesla, and I don't think Elon Musk is some kind of genius, I just think the engineers who designed the car are by most accounts good at designing functional cars and it has features that appeal to me enough that the "look and feel" deficits don't bother me too much (if they did, I wouldn't be driving a beater now)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 7 June 2021 20:18 (two years ago) link

what about being locked inside a burning car because the locks stop working? that seems like kind of a dealbreaker to me idk

sleeve, Monday, 7 June 2021 20:22 (two years ago) link

tbf, you could accomplish this in any car by engaging child safety locks, getting in the front and starting the car, putting a brick on the gas pedal, and hopping in the back

butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 7 June 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link

maybe you can't even open a tesla's rear doors by opening the window and using the exterior handle, though

butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 7 June 2021 20:28 (two years ago) link

yeah I think Teslas are for the most part good cars, but I'm not sure what if anything Elon has to do with that, virtually every idea he's ever had for Tesla has either never came to fruition or has been incredibly dumb

frogbs, Monday, 7 June 2021 20:35 (two years ago) link

He once had an idea that Tesla's stock price should be higher -- that sure came to fruition.

butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 7 June 2021 20:52 (two years ago) link

what about being locked inside a burning car because the locks stop working? that seems like kind of a dealbreaker to me idk

I used to have this same issue about cars with no manual window handles -- what if my car went underwater and the electricity shorted out and I couldn't get out? I dunno, I have come to feel that things like my car catching fire or plunging into a lake are highly highly highly unlikely, much more so than other accidental deaths I might suffer, and if that's the way I go, that's the way I go, it's just not a big enough sliver of probability to affect my car purchase.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 7 June 2021 21:03 (two years ago) link

I just think the engineers who designed the car are by most accounts good at designing functional cars

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, June 7, 2021 4:18 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

they are by the measure of average number of defects exceptionally bad cars fwiw, idk if thats the engineers fault tho

lag∞n, Monday, 7 June 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link

Guayaquil (eephus!) at 4:03 7 Jun 21

what about being locked inside a burning car because the locks stop working? that seems like kind of a dealbreaker to me idk

I used to have this same issue about cars with no manual window handles -- what if my car went underwater and the electricity shorted out and I couldn't get out? I dunno, I have come to feel that things like my car catching fire or plunging into a lake are highly highly highly unlikely, much more so than other accidental deaths I might suffer, and if that's the way I go, that's the way I go, it's just not a big enough sliver of probability to affect my car purchase.


probably worth noting that Teslas catching on fire is incredibly common compared to other vehicles

probably worth noting that Teslas catching on fire is incredibly common compared to other vehicles

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, June 7, 2021 2:36 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this isn't backed up by any data I've seen

butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 7 June 2021 21:49 (two years ago) link

yeah tbf i don't think that's true. they share the same danger as all EVs: if a fire starts it's incredibly hard to put out.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 7 June 2021 21:52 (two years ago) link

key difference seems to be how hard it is to *get* out

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Monday, 7 June 2021 22:14 (two years ago) link

^^^

sleeve, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 03:31 (two years ago) link

also:

they are by the measure of average number of defects exceptionally bad cars fwiw, idk if thats the engineers fault tho

― lag∞n, Monday, June 7, 2021 2:27 PM (six hours ago)

sleeve, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 03:33 (two years ago) link

oh of course. if they catch fire you definitely die a terrifying death, a death that doesn't happen in other cars, and the software is buggy. but tbf they don't catch fire more than other cars.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 03:55 (two years ago) link

Hopefully it is possible to improve upon the baseline of 30-50k traffic deaths per year in the US

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 04:35 (two years ago) link

https://fortune.com/2021/06/18/a-new-report-highlights-the-incredibly-high-environmental-cost-of-teslas-bitcoin-investment/

In 2020, Tesla delivered 181,000 vehicles. You could argue that its romance with Bitcoin erased the environmental benefits from more than 7,000 of those EVs. De Vries says that if a buyer purchases a Tesla by making payments over 48 months in Bitcoin, the carbon footprint of the Bitcoin transactions would exceed the total lifetime emissions savings from driving an EV instead of a gasoline-powered car.

They note that Bitcoin mining consumes almost as much energy as all the the world's data centers combined, and produces CO2 emissions that match the carbon footprint for the city of London. The paper estimates that Bitcoin generates 90.2 million metric tons of carbon gases per year. That volume exceeds by almost two times the total annual reductions achieved by the replacement of gasoline-burning cars by electric vehicles, as calculated by the International Energy Agency.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 20 June 2021 23:37 (two years ago) link

jfc. if true, the inventors of bitcoin should be taken before the Hague. like essentially we're talking Captain Planet villain level "I've built the world's greatest POLLUTION MACHINE" level accomplishments.

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Monday, 21 June 2021 01:17 (two years ago) link

at least Bitcoin is the only cryptocurrency that has any environmental impact, and the rest are all green

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 21 June 2021 02:51 (two years ago) link

If you were me and I were you, I'd tell you how not all currency is green.

pplains, Monday, 21 June 2021 03:00 (two years ago) link

It's not easy being me or green

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 21 June 2021 03:38 (two years ago) link

Ugh, libertarian bitcoin bros are all over Twitter (as well as Reddit etc). Basically the dudes who used to desperately argue that tort law would save the planet, now they've just settled on making hollow claims that their pet ponzi scheme isn't "technically" an environmental catastrophe.

For me Musk pulling Tesla plants out of CA and moving them to TX would be a deal-breaker but apparently that's not enough for my brother. I am seriously thinking it's getting close to the time when we should boycott entire states.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 21 June 2021 06:05 (two years ago) link

what if my car went underwater and the electricity shorted out and I couldn't get out? I dunno, I have come to feel that things like my car catching fire or plunging into a lake are highly highly highly unlikely, much more so than other accidental deaths I might suffer, and if that's the way I go, that's the way I go

FWIW, there was a case a few years back where I live, where an Audi SUV slipped into water and the controls for the doors and windows shorted out. The vehicle took a few minutes to sink and the four people trapped inside drowned, slowly. Two of them were kids. It really brought home to me that that's not the way I want to go.

I Advance Masked (Vast Halo), Monday, 21 June 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link

if you drive a newish car (i.e. a shitty IOT gadget on wheels) then i recommend putting these in glovebox/armest/keyring https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0042VTYXM

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 21 June 2021 17:49 (two years ago) link

Ugh, libertarian bitcoin bros are all over Twitter (as well as Reddit etc). Basically the dudes who used to desperately argue that tort law would save the planet, now they've just settled on making hollow claims that their pet ponzi scheme isn't "technically" an environmental catastrophe.

These dudes (I mean, c'mon, that's 99% of the ones I've seen) are everywhere. The latest twist seems to be arguing that we are constantly on the verge of the tipping point where somehow all of the energy used to mine bitcoins is going to magically disappear because of.... something. This is the part where their tweets consistently become more vague.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 21 June 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link

what's an IOT gadget?

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 21 June 2021 18:35 (two years ago) link

internet of things, see https://twitter.com/internetofshit

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 21 June 2021 18:36 (two years ago) link

The latest twist seems to be arguing that we are constantly on the verge of the tipping point where somehow all of the energy used to mine bitcoins is going to magically disappear because of.... something.

proof of stake. as opposed to "proof of work", which is how many cryptocurrencies work now. "proof of work" means rising energy use dedicated to solving complicated math problems. proof of stake is the magical thing that everyone working with etherium swears they very much care about and have definitely been focused on from the beginning.

proof of stake will apparently save everything because it will be a way to validate the blockchain more efficiently. how does it work?


HOW DOES ETHEREUM'S PROOF-OF-STAKE WORK?
Unlike proof-of-work, validators don't need to use significant amounts of computational power because they're selected at random and aren't competing. They don't need to mine blocks; they just need to create blocks when chosen and validate proposed blocks when they're not. This validation is known as attesting. You can think of attesting as saying "this block looks good to me." Validators get rewards for proposing new blocks and for attesting to ones they've seen.

If you attest to malicious blocks, you lose your stake.

PROS
Staking makes it easier for you to run a node. It doesn't require huge investments in hardware or energy, and if you don't have enough ETH to stake, you can join staking pools. It allows for increased participation, and more nodes doesn't mean increased % returns, like with mining.
Staking allows for secure sharding. Shard chains allow Ethereum to create multiple blocks at the same time, increasing transaction throughput. Sharding the network in a proof-of-work system would simply lower the power needed to compromise a portion of the network.

CONS
Proof-of-stake is still in its infancy, and less battle-tested, compared to proof-of-work. Staking is more decentralized.


https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/consensus-mechanisms/pos/

the only con is that it doesn't work yet and that the vast majority of cryptofucks don't give a shit about the efficiency and never will. that's Proof of Stake

Karl Malone, Monday, 21 June 2021 18:52 (two years ago) link

yeah, they're going to build up a crypto-ecosystem based on millions of pieces of shit buying expensive mining equipment and dedicating themselves to this task and community for about a decade, and then suddenly they're going to shift away from that and calmly explain to the very worst people on earth that their mining equipment no longer works for ethereum (which will probably cause them to repurpose the expensive pointless electricity hogs for some other similar person, or throw it in a gas station trash can rather than recycling it)

Karl Malone, Monday, 21 June 2021 18:54 (two years ago) link

listen, you may have bought an old factory in Nigeria and filled it up with mining equipment because they had cheapest electricity in the world, but it turns out that we in the cryptocommunity you belong to actually really care about the environment.

maybe they'll eventually introduce PoS and everyone will adopt it. maybe not. but either way, anyone participating in it now just doesn't give a fuck, it's obvious. i wish people would just say "i don't care about energy and the environment and never will". it's the pretending that they actually do that drives me nuts

Karl Malone, Monday, 21 June 2021 18:58 (two years ago) link

Genuine thanks for that KM, that's definitely a better explanation than I've seen on twitter yet even though it still sounds like so much wishful thinking smoke and mirrors.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 21 June 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link

Staking allows for secure sharding. Shard chains allow Ethereum to create multiple blocks at the same time, increasing transaction throughput. Sharding the network in a proof-of-work system would simply lower the power needed to compromise a portion of the network.

ilx ideas: autoreplace "sharding" with "sharting" on this website

Karl Malone, Monday, 21 June 2021 19:12 (two years ago) link

the cryptocommunity

CHINA CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING EQUIPMENT IS MOVING TO THE USA IN BULK!

The USA is about to become the crypto hub of the world and #Dogecoin/#Bitcoin will rise again. MASSIVELY.

— Matt Wallace ⚠️ (@MattWallace888) June 21, 2021

Karl Malone, Monday, 21 June 2021 21:38 (two years ago) link

5000 likes, lmao. Just any old bullshit will do really.

But yeah thanks for clearing up proof of stake, much appreciated.

i wish people would just say "i don't care about energy and the environment and never will". it's the pretending that they actually do that drives me nuts

I think the half of them who aren't just flatly acting in bad faith probably think they do care, they're just stuck in the conceptual leap from tort law saving the planet they all bought into ten years ago.

No doubt it also gets into Silicon Valley technophilia, many dudes deeply invested in the notion that all it will take it is one good hack to sort everything out.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Tuesday, 22 June 2021 23:39 (two years ago) link

thanks for clearing up proof of stake, much appreciated.

you and jon both said this, and thank you and i appreciate it back!, but i don't know much about the entire thing. i have made numerous basic errors in yelling at people about cryptocurrency over the last couple months. and there are definitely crypto/PoS advocates that make a strong case for what's possible. HOWEVER, my thing with those cool advocates who I really do believe have their hearts in the right places is that it doesn't fucking matter, because they're embedded within a community of people who are obsessed with value, ie, there is no soul in there

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 June 2021 23:54 (two years ago) link

imagine a bizarre 1880s argument where people are talking about the environmental consequences of fossil fuels, particularly oil and coal. (just fucking imagine ok!) and then someone is like "but there are clean energy sources that are already proven, like wind and solar and hydro, and they'll eventually dominate the industry so it will be ok, and holy shit it's 1886 and i'm saying this hahaha!". that's how i feel about the crypto/Proof of Stake people with their hearts in the right place.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 June 2021 23:57 (two years ago) link

it's like, yeah, you'll win the day eventually, after all these fucking turds you said Yes to have their way with it

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 June 2021 23:57 (two years ago) link

#onethread

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 June 2021 23:59 (two years ago) link

if you compare fossil fuels and the alternatives, fossil fuels have a clear advantage in storage and transportation. On top of this you have the inertia created by decades of infrastructure investment for mining, storage, and transportation. It seems like proof of work was easier to code and get running than proof of stake, so perhaps there's a similar issue there. Is there a large investment in coders to pivot to something better? It doesn't feel like it'd be on the same scale. I'm more worried that people making large investments in hardware or cheap and dirty power would be reluctant to switch and lose their investment into an advantage. So I agree with The Mailman, but I also don't know enough about it to say if a fast pivot to a more efficient algorithm is really so analogous to a pivot from fossil fuels.

butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 04:33 (two years ago) link

Staking allows for secure sharding.

ive been saying this

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 13:57 (two years ago) link

thank you for clearing this up

butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 14:22 (two years ago) link

your welcome

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 14:39 (two years ago) link

1/ A thread on the stunning deposition by Kimbal Musk in the SolarCity lawsuit. Find it here thanks to @PlainSite:https://t.co/Vggtqc7l79

It is document 328, attachment 2, starting on page 336 (exhibit 10). You really should read it for yourself. It is amazing. $TLSAQ

— TC (@TESLAcharts) October 29, 2019

lag∞n, Saturday, 26 June 2021 23:59 (two years ago) link

if i had a car company i'd prob make it so the cars didn't just catch fire but idk i prob won't ever have a car company

Clay, Friday, 2 July 2021 00:45 (two years ago) link

is it good for the environment when cars explode and burn for several hours? i heard that guy elon musk cares about the environment so i'm thinking this might be the reason for his cars catching fire.

superdeep borehole (harbl), Friday, 2 July 2021 00:47 (two years ago) link

is there some definition of 'plaid' that i'm unaware of

mookieproof, Friday, 2 July 2021 00:54 (two years ago) link

'Something that Elon Musk thought it would be funny to call a car line' seems to be the operative one here.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 2 July 2021 06:02 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk7VWcuVOf0

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 2 July 2021 06:10 (two years ago) link

good news, Florida

The city of Fort Lauderdale has accepted an unsolicited bid from Elon Musk’s Boring Company to build an underground transportation system under Las Olas Boulevard from its downtown Brightline Station to Las Olas Oceanside Park. https://t.co/JYcEoT5jGS

— Miami Herald (@MiamiHerald) July 7, 2021

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 8 July 2021 08:07 (two years ago) link

If only someone would dig a big hole in the ground for us to throw all these public funds down.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Thursday, 8 July 2021 09:04 (two years ago) link

That seems like the worst ever idea.

peace, man, Thursday, 8 July 2021 10:53 (two years ago) link

It’ll be full of water by its second week of operation and the Tesla’s will short out and the windows won’t open.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 8 July 2021 12:59 (two years ago) link

It’ll prevent CO2 emissions from the equivalent of one Florida citizen who will now “take the hole to work”

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 8 July 2021 14:43 (two years ago) link

on the other hand, if you could water slide for a couple miles to work, that would be pretty fun.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 July 2021 14:44 (two years ago) link

That would be incredible fun. Is ft lauderdale on the coast? I’m not sure if that’s advantageous for forts or not in 2021. But is it is you could just ride the hole all th way to the beach after work

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 8 July 2021 14:47 (two years ago) link

wow this is a completely insane and stupid idea, please pass the popcorn

sleeve, Friday, 9 July 2021 06:15 (two years ago) link

new hobby for disaffected FL youth: throwing bottlerockets down into that hole over there

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 9 July 2021 16:25 (two years ago) link

Ft. L story is even worse than it seemed: https://www.businessinsider.com/emails-how-elon-musk-boring-company-got-fort-lauderdale-loop-2021-7

rob, Thursday, 15 July 2021 13:24 (two years ago) link

One of the founders of dogecoin had a good thread yesterday

Cryptocurrency is like taking the worst parts of today's capitalist system (eg. corruption, fraud, inequality) and using software to technically limit the use of interventions (eg. audits, regulation, taxation) which serve as protections or safety nets for the average person.

— Jackson Palmer (@ummjackson) July 14, 2021

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 July 2021 13:57 (two years ago) link

Reminder: Elon Musk's conflict with Tesla's founders started over publicity. Not engineering, strategy, or product design, but the credit Elon got (or didn't) in a New York Times story. Just a few weeks after sending these emails he began a PR offensive that has never ended. pic.twitter.com/XKrWn1hMKR

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) July 14, 2021

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 July 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

We have almost all the pieces needed for humanoid robots, since we already make robots with wheels

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) August 20, 2021

THIS JUST HAPPENED I’M NOT KIDDING$TSLAQ pic.twitter.com/Ayc9KemaUI

— TC (poorly dancing robot) (@TESLAcharts) August 20, 2021

Imagine just putting a guy in spandex and suddenly 200 tech reporters have to write about how you're building a robot pic.twitter.com/y6hkRC0sO3

— Ashley Feinberg (@ashleyfeinberg) August 20, 2021

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 20 August 2021 05:42 (two years ago) link

it's real if we think it's real

professional anti- (Karl Malone), Friday, 20 August 2021 11:34 (two years ago) link

blood diamond showerthoughts techbro twat

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 20 August 2021 12:07 (two years ago) link

Amazon just released its own robot demo in response:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad65spfln8w

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 August 2021 12:13 (two years ago) link

can't believe this guy finally did something legit funny

rob, Friday, 20 August 2021 13:43 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI3BIrpxu5k

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 20 August 2021 14:36 (two years ago) link

blood diamond showerthoughts techbro twat


My favorite Red Hot Chili Peppers album.

Bach on harmonica! (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 20 August 2021 15:05 (two years ago) link

I’ve decided that Elon’s grift is now funny to me

he also should probably be in jail for misleading his fans into thinking they don’t have to steer their cars

contradictory, but such is life

mh, Friday, 20 August 2021 15:08 (two years ago) link

that clip is something straight out of one of the On Cinema Oscar Specials

frogbs, Friday, 20 August 2021 15:11 (two years ago) link

That's grimes

, Friday, 20 August 2021 15:29 (two years ago) link

Embarrassingly bad.

Believe me, grow a lemon tree. (ledge), Sunday, 29 August 2021 16:00 (two years ago) link

"He's a bad boss? Yeah so he's a dick, aren't we all, and you knew when you applied and stop being so woke" - good job sticking up for the microserfs there doug.

Believe me, grow a lemon tree. (ledge), Sunday, 29 August 2021 16:08 (two years ago) link

feel like it's time for us as a society to challenge the idea that this guy is some kind of hypergenius when everything he does and says makes him sound dumb as shit

frogbs, Sunday, 29 August 2021 16:11 (two years ago) link

Not really - Teslas are fucking fantastic cars.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Sunday, 29 August 2021 16:13 (two years ago) link

did he build them

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 29 August 2021 16:14 (two years ago) link

He brings them to market, as you know.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Sunday, 29 August 2021 16:16 (two years ago) link

lol

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 29 August 2021 16:18 (two years ago) link

Douglas coupland? Sheesh

brimstead, Sunday, 29 August 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link

for sure, some of the best engineers on the planet are probably working for Tesla and SpaceX, Elon himself on the other hand seems to have no good car ideas at all. maybe I'm wrong!!

here's a fun story, my little brother owns a Tesla and something got messed up with the security system, idk if he hit the wrong button or something but the car just started freaking out, like honking and flashing lights and all that. apparently when it thinks its getting "broken into" the stereo system also starts playing Trans-Siberian Orchestra at max volume, which you can't turn off. the problem was my brother's wife and his 1-year old son were trapped in the car, and now there's this deafening music playing while my brother literally has to Google how to turn the shit off, and you just know fucking Elon Musk brought that up at some meeting, "ha ha, here is funny idea, also very smart because it disorient the thief, ha ha" and everyone around him is afraid to tell him no so they just start working 90 hour weeks instead of 80 to make it happen, and now my nephew might have hearing damage

frogbs, Sunday, 29 August 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link

Teslas are fucking fantastic cars.

this is objectively false, regardless of what metrics you apply, lagoon has gone into this in great detail upthread

sleeve, Sunday, 29 August 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link

xp apparently this is a holiday light show easter egg? ffs.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 29 August 2021 17:52 (two years ago) link

think we need to find out why the little frog was trying to steal his own car.

shitbird in prospect (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

Crap, I pre ordered the new Douglas Coupland last week. Wonder if I can cancel

I am using your worlds, Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link

lmao car software having easter eggs is really powerfully dumb shit

Clay, Monday, 30 August 2021 00:57 (two years ago) link

it's a CAR, elon

Clay, Monday, 30 August 2021 00:57 (two years ago) link

its probably been mentioned before but one of the absolute dumbest things about the Tesla is that it has its own Mario Kart spin-off game in the center console controlled by the steering wheel...okay, cool novelty, something to do while at a charging station, the idiotic part is when you play it ACTUALLY TURNS THE WHEELS which I am 100% sure was one of Elon's dumbass ideas, like he must've loved the idea of people seeing the tires turn so they could say "Look! He's playing video games!" never once thinking about how 15 minutes of that will create a bald spot on your $600 tire

frogbs, Monday, 30 August 2021 01:11 (two years ago) link

I was in a used bookstore last month that had 15 copies of Generation X, I wondered when was the last time it had been read for any reason aside from maybe a college class.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 30 August 2021 01:19 (two years ago) link

Douglas Coupland, Claire Boucher....how many others will fall for this fraud?

Meanwhile, my norcal roads are choked with chodes driving with Autopilot turned on. Hope me and mine don't end up as Tesla ML training data.

fajita seas, Monday, 30 August 2021 02:30 (two years ago) link

two questions:

1. Is Douglas Coupland widely known as a dumbass?
2. Is this the worst thing Guardian ever published?

g simmel, Monday, 30 August 2021 08:21 (two years ago) link

Ha, just read that Douglas Coupland article, has he always been such an abysmal writer? has he always been so profoundly thick while imagining he's very clever indeed?

fc_TEFH28mo (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 30 August 2021 08:35 (two years ago) link

Never read any of his famous novels, they must be better than this.

fc_TEFH28mo (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 30 August 2021 08:36 (two years ago) link

sort of wish someone musters up the strength to answer this screed point by point.

g simmel, Monday, 30 August 2021 08:38 (two years ago) link

ack I confused Douglas Coupland with Douglas Rushkoff

brimstead, Monday, 30 August 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link

his novels aren't much better...

symsymsym, Monday, 30 August 2021 15:13 (two years ago) link

Is this still the article from 2013 we’re talking about?

professional anti- (Karl Malone), Monday, 30 August 2021 15:14 (two years ago) link

No, I think it was just published this weekend?

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 August 2021 15:15 (two years ago) link

Oh god! I clicked the link the other day, saw “Elon musk, 2013” and thought it was the date of the article, rather than the photo credit. My media literacy is declining

professional anti- (Karl Malone), Monday, 30 August 2021 15:17 (two years ago) link

Coupland's grift for the past few years has been selling public artworks to developers in Vancouver. The developers get generous zoning exemptions or relief on development fees for including the artworks in their developments and Coupland gets a massive payday. Here's his latest. And here's the background to how the entire building was evicted last year to facilitate this renovation. Some tenants had lived there for almost 30 years.

everything, Monday, 30 August 2021 20:43 (two years ago) link

if that Musk article didn't already convince me was a piece of shit...

Nhex, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 00:38 (two years ago) link

I accepted delivery of the Model Y. It’s not without its QC issues but it’s one of the better ones I’ve seen so I accepted delivery.

Panel alignment all around is pretty poor. I have a droopy drivers door, the lift gate isn’t centered, and the panel gaps on it are huge/uneven. pic.twitter.com/dwEg9xWu7U

— Quinn Nelson (@SnazzyQ) September 6, 2021

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 14:46 (two years ago) link

Also, to those that mocked me for my mismatched aftermarket bumper color on my Model 3, this is on a brand new car straight from Tesla…. pic.twitter.com/nQed4cYqv4

— Quinn Nelson (@SnazzyQ) September 6, 2021

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link

"one of the better ones" jfc people set such a low bar

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 14:50 (two years ago) link

ya car worse than a hyundai

Last tweet: @meghanntate’s Genesis GV80 puts the interior of the Model Y to shame. Everything is SUBSTANTIALLY nicer. Like, you’d never guess these cars are even remotely the same price point. That said, her power train is not even remotely responsive/fast. pic.twitter.com/cfkL7i221a

— Quinn Nelson (@SnazzyQ) September 6, 2021

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 14:53 (two years ago) link

the thing about power is past a certain point you cant actually use it, unless you go to the racetrack and most people do not do that, and cars are generally so powerful these days, so if you want to spend a bunch of money on a car why not get one thats actually nice, one from germany

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 15:01 (two years ago) link

i mean if you think that genesis interior is nice you should check out a mercedes

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 15:02 (two years ago) link

because it is about their identity as a specific type of cool guy, not just showing how rich they are

criminally negligible (harbl), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 15:08 (two years ago) link

saw a post about a guy who got rear-ended and they totaled the new, still not paid-for tesla because a lot of it is made of aluminum? and the poster was still a big tesla fan? but i lost it

criminally negligible (harbl), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 15:09 (two years ago) link

because it is about their identity as a specific type of cool guy, not just showing how rich they are

― criminally negligible (harbl), Tuesday, September 7, 2021 11:08 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah true, its sad they dont want a german car cause its too ostentatious, but people who actually like cars like german cars, because theyre good cars, turns out the tesla guys are more concerned with image, weird...

*obvs most german car buyers are also very concerned with image but the germans do go to great lengths to make "drivers cars" that are good

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 15:16 (two years ago) link

I drove a V8 for a while and the power was kinda fun to have but it turns out when you get rid of it and start driving a Ford Fusion you don't really miss it

I'll give Tesla that, they're stupidly fast and perform pretty well on the racetrack. That said they move like a rollercoaster and if the driver is being an asshole you can get pretty queasy when they stomp on the gas. idk what I'd ever use that for these days other than to impress some rude teens at a stoplight

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link

tesla has an insane amount of power but its a cheat cause electric motors deliver 100% torque immediately where gas engines have to rev up, its not some brilliant engineering on their part its just a fact of the technology they use, and theres so much more to performance than just raw power, steering weight distribution breaking etc, a company like tesla just isnt going to be able to get those things as right as ones who know things about making cars, same goes for all the luxury design and build stuff too

some of that is demonstrated in this video, apologies for posting lame car guys lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pu9046wX9g

if you dont feel like watching they liked the tesla but the handling was kind of off for a performance car, and the bmw which is slowest in a straight line of the 3 cars had the fastest track time because its just a good car, the audi is a very nice fast car but is just not as drivey as the bmw, the rs3 is kind of silly cause youre making a car that has track speed but is too fwd heavy to have track handling, better off just getting the s3 for zipping around town, someone buy me an s3 thanks

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 15:58 (two years ago) link

with those 3 cars next to each other the tesla design looks so unfinished, looks like a clay model! theres no detail, a sick parody of minimalism

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 16:09 (two years ago) link

The interior is garbage too, every time I get in one I feel like I’m inside a model car. Even my old Ford Escort was more comfortable than this

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 16:35 (two years ago) link

they are just not good at making cars, and the ultimate offense... they are not car guys

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 16:36 (two years ago) link

lagººn when did you start being a car guy? i am interested in this heel turn.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link

like many horrible developments i think youtube was mostly to blame, tho i have always had a soft spot for nice cars, like i owned a couple german cars before i really was interested in cars, which is ironic because now that i am a car guy i drive a subaru outback, and to be clear objectively cars are terrible things

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link

they are pretty compelling as design/engineering/cultural objects thooo

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 17:01 (two years ago) link

driving a nice car is nice too

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 17:05 (two years ago) link

if i ever become a big city/good job man again i will buy myself an s3 as a a treat

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 17:12 (two years ago) link

more like lagOOOOn

shitbird in prospect (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link

dont want a german car cause its too ostentatious, but people who actually like cars like german cars, because theyre good cars

I drive a Mercedes now, bought used from a guy who was younger than the car.

Always hated the stereotypical German car driver too, but man. There is some weight to the hype. They're really good cars!

My favorite part is that I can say out loud "Open Butthole" and nothing happens.

(And I usually say that out loud when a BMW driver won't let me in. Now those guys are the real enemies.)

pplains, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link

you get it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link

will be interesting to see what happens to tesla as more direct competitors from real car companies come online, interesting volvo launched a whole new brand maybe trying to avoid ecar buyers aforementioned hangups about luxury cars, still think the most likely trajectory for tesla is a major accounting scandal followed by being absorbed by a big company

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P75LSbn4ocw

btw did not know teslas dont have a driver side gage cluster, everything is on the center screen, you have to look over to see your speed! just awful

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

You don't need to know your speed when the car is doing the driving!

nickn, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 17:43 (two years ago) link

lol, btw thought this was correct re level 2 self driving https://jalopnik.com/lots-of-people-seem-to-completely-misunderstand-the-aut-1847541014

it makes a lot more sense for a computer to be a back safety mechanism for a human than the other way around

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link

I remember the urban tales of people thinking cruise-control meant auto-pilot and crashing their RV while stepping into the back for a second.

pplains, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 18:13 (two years ago) link

that happened in anchorman 2 iirc

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 18:44 (two years ago) link

I didn't see Anchorman 2. I drive a Mercedes.

pplains, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 18:46 (two years ago) link

people who know how to live

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 18:47 (two years ago) link

more like lagOOOOn

― shitbird in prospect (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, September 7, 2021 1:32 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

🙏🙏🙏🙏

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 18:47 (two years ago) link

my old boss had a series of A4s (had an old one when i started, got a new one, then a few years later she ran over something and totaled it, got another new one) and tbh i did love riding with her in spite of myself. still driving my corolla until at least 2030 though :)

criminally negligible (harbl), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 19:51 (two years ago) link

a4 wagon is so classic, my dad crashed mine ffs, only available in the allroad configuration now in this god forsaken country

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 21:07 (two years ago) link

forced by logic to buy our forester at the end of the lease (worth 8k!!! more used if we sell it than the lease buyout price) but i still want that sweet prius wagon.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 21:15 (two years ago) link

station wagons rule, but they have been supplanted by those prettified light trucks aka suvs.

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link

volvo launched a whole new brand maybe trying to avoid ecar buyers aforementioned hangups about luxury cars
Unfortunately, Volvo's "Polestar" (named after their performance division) cars are way overpriced even compared to their existing lineup.

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 22:16 (two years ago) link

station wagons rule, but they have been supplanted by those prettified light trucks aka suvs.

― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Tuesday, September 7, 2021 5:27 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

crossovers aka tall cars are a plague

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 23:26 (two years ago) link

real truck suvs are cool tho, if you like that sort of thing

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 23:27 (two years ago) link

xp iirc they are a way for manufacturers to evade MPG requirements, nothing more

sleeve, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 23:28 (two years ago) link

forced by logic to buy our forester at the end of the lease (worth 8k!!! more used if we sell it than the lease buyout price) but i still want that sweet prius wagon.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, September 7, 2021 5:15 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

well you could sell it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 23:28 (two years ago) link

buy its freedom and set it free in the Skyforest of San Bernardino

shitbird in prospect (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 23:35 (two years ago) link

xp iirc they are a way for manufacturers to evade MPG requirements, nothing more

― sleeve, Tuesday, September 7, 2021 7:28 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

well people really like them too drives like a car but you sit high have awd space to put stuff etc

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 23:36 (two years ago) link

I got a used Honda CR-V a year ago and it's the best, most practical vehicle I've ever had by some margin

It's just useful, I don't understand what's bad about small SUVs

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 23:49 (two years ago) link

Like do you guys really give a shit about this stuff or is it just ilx pretend care type stuff

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 23:52 (two years ago) link

i personally just dont like how they look or drive or their whole vibe really something very no there there about them, but im in the minority crossovers are the most popular vehicles in this country by far

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 23:54 (two years ago) link

an outback really toes the line between a wagon and an suv

micah, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 23:56 (two years ago) link

my outback is so big and rides so high its a borderline crossover tbh, the difference between it and the forester isnt much, all cars are getting so big now, i parked next to a previous gen outback the other day and it was so much smaller and lower

ha xp

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 23:57 (two years ago) link

The Outback is not considered a wagon, at least the use of the word wagon is not generally allowed in any Subaru marketing

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 23:59 (two years ago) link

(I work for Subaru's ad/marketing/digital agency)

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 23:59 (two years ago) link

ha inside info nice, its some sort of car in the shape of a station wagon

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 00:01 (two years ago) link

kinda reminiscent of this bad boy

https://i.imgur.com/udAiUpH.png

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 00:02 (two years ago) link

They call it an SUV now so basically everything is an SUV except the sports cars and the Legacy and Impreza sedan. Crosstrek is just a jacked up Impreza as crossover and has been a huge home run

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 00:03 (two years ago) link

the liberty (rip) was the wagon variant.

the levorg sounds like the goods now. shame you cant get it in the states (i think?)

micah, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 00:03 (two years ago) link

crosstrek is pretty sick tho i find the styling to be a lil over the top, i was looking at those too but the low milage used ones cost basically as much as new so i went w the outback, and tbh i like having the interior space have slept in it a few times and so forth, crosstrek is pretty small

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 00:05 (two years ago) link

you can call it what you want but to me this is clearly a wagon (with suv characteristics)

https://i.imgur.com/xFr8DXv.png

and if you go all the way back to the first gen its just a wagon

https://i.imgur.com/Ho3lZZ3.png

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 00:16 (two years ago) link

as a car driver a really hate not being able to see as well in front of the tall crossover things,
I’ll probabably just get one of the damn things eventually in an arms race capitulation kind of way

brimstead, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 00:19 (two years ago) link

soon you wont be able to even buy a goddamn normal car! ford currently has one model in their "cars" category, the famous mustang

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 00:21 (two years ago) link

god I love the amc eagle

Clay, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 00:26 (two years ago) link

it rules

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 00:28 (two years ago) link

i like my outback more now that i have had the thought that they are the same type of car

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 00:28 (two years ago) link

mb i can get some sort of wood panel wrap

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 00:28 (two years ago) link

i drove an 03 forester for years and it was basically just a normal sized sedan that was smushed to look like an SUV, i loved that car

, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 01:24 (two years ago) link

I got a used Honda CR-V a year ago and it's the best, most practical vehicle I've ever had by some margin

We bought our CRV new, and 14 years later, it's still running great. Kinda wild that the oldest kid could possibly go from a baby seat to driving the damn thing.

I should get a bumper sticker for the Benz that says "My Other Car Is A Honda CR-V"

pplains, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 01:32 (two years ago) link

my mom drove an amc hornet when I was a kid. my partner and I bought a new forester last year, the first new car i’ve ever driven. maybe there’s a through line somewhere based on these recent posts

sknybrg, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 01:44 (two years ago) link

well people really like them too drives like a car but you sit high have awd space to put stuff etc

― lag∞n, Tuesday, September 7, 2021 7:36 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

our most recent car is a honda hr-v and it's not exciting at all but AWD and space to put stuff were basically the top priorities so it works. love my civic but i was sick of going to home depot and doing gyrations about where to put stuff. also had a few experiences with vermont hills in the winter that made me rethink some things.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 02:09 (two years ago) link

there is a reason every car in vt is a subaru or a truck

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 02:11 (two years ago) link

they know what they're doing up there

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 02:14 (two years ago) link

i bought a barely used subaru legacy a couple years ago and it is basically a very fast tank it rules

Clay, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 02:29 (two years ago) link

well you could sell it

― lag∞n, Tuesday, September 7, 2021 7:28 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol please tell this to my wife

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 02:36 (two years ago) link

this is me and my wife btw

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESNxmyrW4AIG9eY.jpg

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 02:37 (two years ago) link

please send her this message for me "sell the subaru and buy the large prius"

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 02:38 (two years ago) link

I think part of the crossover thing is because getting in and out of a car that’s at standing human height is easier for people, especially if you’re loading/unloading children and groceries, or are old enough to make the “unngh” noise when getting in or out of a car or recliner

mh, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:41 (two years ago) link

yeah def true

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:42 (two years ago) link

I remember being a kid and thinking the little handle over the door was just kind of a novelty in cars, then I become an adult and everyone’s using it to climb in and out of my car.

america’s knees are not doing well

mh, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:43 (two years ago) link

a tall friend of mine upon acquiring his first crossover was like fuck that shit im never getting into a low car again

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:50 (two years ago) link

ffs

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/6/60/Very_Tall_Man.jpg

sleeve, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 18:20 (two years ago) link

crossover is much easier on the back if you're loading kids in and out and you're in the US where the sidewalk is like 18 inches about the street.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link

I’m currently driving an ‘06 Pontiac Vibe that I bought for like $4K over 6 years ago, and it still runs like brand new at over 200k miles. Don’t know if I got especially lucky, but I have heard from car nerds (of the super practical strain) that those were some weirdly good cars in spite of the Pontiac brand mostly being a punchline by the 90s

caddy lac brougham? (will), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 19:40 (two years ago) link

these ppl seem also v bullish on early-mid 00s CRVs (if you’re looking for stupid cheap but reliable)

caddy lac brougham? (will), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 19:41 (two years ago) link

i believe the vibe is just a rebranded toyota matrix which explains all that

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 19:41 (two years ago) link

^yep this is true

caddy lac brougham? (will), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 19:53 (two years ago) link

it did seem like at the time I was in the market for a ridic cheap car the Toyota’s had retained more of their resale value (naturally)

caddy lac brougham? (will), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 19:56 (two years ago) link

i bought a used car a while back and was looking at that model, was not uncommon to see the matrix of similar year/mileage be 2k more than the vibe

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link

the Geo Prizm was a rebrand of a Toyota too

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link

widely known as the toyota tax

micah, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 23:24 (two years ago) link

Friend’s Vibe just crossed 300k miles

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 23:38 (two years ago) link

they're called kilometres

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 9 September 2021 03:19 (two years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-1xUr0XEAMR9Ga?format=png&name=900x900

calzino, Thursday, 9 September 2021 11:50 (two years ago) link

lol

Don't let anybody tell you that the Tesla yoke is a good idea https://t.co/f1SkdDmRhI pic.twitter.com/WpCKb2Mt2D

— Edmunds (@edmunds) September 7, 2021

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 September 2021 15:48 (two years ago) link

I kinda think the SpaceX space suits look pretty dorky.

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/qs5VnkS6doevtfKhD2D7AK-1024-80.jpg.webp

earlnash, Friday, 10 September 2021 08:03 (two years ago) link

They look like they should come with a pack of markers so that you can decorate them yourself, like a plain paper placemat at a restaurant when you order the kids menu.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 September 2021 12:39 (two years ago) link

combination Storm Trooper/Interstellar wannabe spacesuit design, issued only in two-sizes-too-big form.

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Friday, 10 September 2021 13:01 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/UQ2ovzU.jpg

ledge, Friday, 10 September 2021 13:01 (two years ago) link

It looks like what you wear to the gym in space. That helmet screams recumbent bicycle too.

earlnash, Friday, 10 September 2021 14:42 (two years ago) link

Hoping Ledge just happened to have a blank template of Gordon laying around.

pplains, Friday, 10 September 2021 14:51 (two years ago) link

fortunately there are some just lying around on the internet for anyone to pick up.

ledge, Friday, 10 September 2021 15:03 (two years ago) link

this is me on page 9 (of my gis results)

shitbird in prospect (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 10 September 2021 15:15 (two years ago) link

Damn! pic.twitter.com/4Fr828loCQ

— Taylor Ogan (@TaylorOgan) September 15, 2021

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 21:04 (two years ago) link

JUST DRIVE YOUR OWN CAR.

pplains, Thursday, 16 September 2021 02:27 (two years ago) link

Disappointing that it didn’t slam into a pylon.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 16 September 2021 02:29 (two years ago) link

oooOooof

BREAKING: Elon Musk Rushes To Aid Of Overturned Tesla Pinned On Top Of Child https://t.co/azxHMq4Wta pic.twitter.com/nHea9mXPhm

— The Onion (@TheOnion) September 17, 2021

frogbs, Friday, 17 September 2021 18:54 (two years ago) link

My friend's Tesla just had to be in the shop for three weeks, thanks to supply/equipment shortages. This is not its first prolonged service visit, either. His wife jokes that it's been in the shop more than it's been in the carport.

Oh, I was telling him about some of those videos upthread, especially the Edmunds guy who got car sick with the model Plaid (or whatever it's called) and he conceded that his Tesla sometimes makes him a little ill, too. I wonder if there is something to that, psychologically, with all electric cars, where for some people the near silence throws off your body/brain connection? Like the way some people need to be behind the wheel to avoid car sickness, or at the least how looking ahead where you're going is key to avoiding nausea. Maybe some people have been conditioned to need the sound of a motor or acceleration? That's a feature some EV et al. cars have, right? To *add* some engine noise?

Anyway, my buddy is literally the first and only Tesla owner I've met that is willing to say bad things about the car and its performance. I'll be curious if he sticks with it when his lease is up.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 September 2021 14:33 (two years ago) link

I wonder if there is something to that, psychologically, with all electric cars, where for some people the near silence throws off your body/brain connection?

lol buddy WHATTTT

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 18 September 2021 16:29 (two years ago) link

Is that so far fetched? I don't mean it as something wrong with EVs, just something wrong with our brains. Like the way Teslas et al. offered the update back at launch that made cars creep forward a little with your foot off the "gas," or the way some cars offer the option of piping the sound of acceleration *into* the interior, through the speakers. Just like being on a big boat, where you might not actually see it or feel it moving or rocking but your brain certainly recognizes it, which can lead to sea sickness. Isn't that what the tester in the Edmunds video (is that upthread?) hypothesized after the Plaid made him motion sick in a way that even being in the backseat of a Formula 1 car did not?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 September 2021 16:59 (two years ago) link

ppl seem to think the regen breaking is the main culprit, can be too herky jerky, tho im sure the insane acceleration cld do it too

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 September 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link

A little bookmark for anyone following the progress of western civilization 😂😂 pic.twitter.com/QCSK8walTC

— stricture (@bog_beef) September 18, 2021

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 September 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link

But the real issue here is psychological: Musk has learned, again and again, that the secret to winning is to play chicken and never flinch. Whatever issue finally wrecks Tesla, and there's a good chance it's driving automation, Musk will drive directly into it at top speed.

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) September 20, 2021

lag∞n, Monday, 20 September 2021 17:27 (two years ago) link

Coupla blind squirrels here

“Musk thinks Peter is a sociopath, and Peter thinks Musk is a fraud and a braggart.” https://t.co/40tK77p8KA

— Matthew Zeitlin (@MattZeitlin) September 20, 2021

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 20 September 2021 23:12 (two years ago) link

i burst out laughing at that

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Monday, 20 September 2021 23:14 (two years ago) link

spidermen pointing at each other

class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 01:52 (two years ago) link

https://t.co/7KXV29jrAk pic.twitter.com/J7JHA01thx

— Sandy Johnston 🚰 (@sandypsj) September 20, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 04:01 (two years ago) link

No need to listen to this podcast episode honestly but god this clip from Rogan & Musk slayed me

The world’s most popular podcaster and the world’s richest man have the world’s stupidest conversation. This week on Double Threat @scharpling @julieklausner pic.twitter.com/IspE1cTYPJ

— DOUBLE THREAT (@DoubleThreatPod) September 20, 2021

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 05:17 (two years ago) link

using a race car steering wheel but not knowing that in race cars they have a much higher turning ratio, just musk stuff

Tried it and... the yoke, as implemented, is one of the dumbest things Tesla has ever done.

There I said it.

It'd be different if lock-to-lock was < ~120 degrees or so (you know, the point of a yoke normally), but on a standard steering rack this is just flat out stupid.

— Jason Hughes (@wk057) September 20, 2021

lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 15:29 (two years ago) link

Consumer Reports paints a particularly forehead-slapping picture of this stupid thing: https://www.consumerreports.org/cars-driving/tesla-steering-yoke-little-benefit-potential-safety-pitfalls-a1034204120/

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 16:24 (two years ago) link

the steering wheel is a crutch inhibiting full self-driving roulette

balance transfer eligible (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link

Tesla swapped the tried-and-true round steering wheel for a flat-bottomed, rectangular yoke reminiscent of what pilots use to steer an airplane.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but pilots never do a hand-over-hand-over-hand turn, do they?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link

Clip from China of a $TSLA Model 3, evidently equipped with the latest and greatest safety technology. My guess is the 4D dojo supercomputer recognizes that the pedestrian dummy is not a human and therefore sees no reason to perform evasive maneuvers. pic.twitter.com/R1mQqbxIy9

— degen (@finance_degen) September 20, 2020

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link

if your computer can't suss out the dummies, you'll be vulnerable to wagon train robbery

balance transfer eligible (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 19:12 (two years ago) link

it appears the pedestrian-recognition neural net core is actually just a copy of freeware classic Truck Dismount.

tbf it let them shrink the size of the chip dramatically, leaving room for the forthcoming bong-holder add-on.

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link

Maybe the dummy just needs its own chip.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 21:44 (two years ago) link

poor robot Beatle

koogs, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 01:28 (two years ago) link

hate to say it, but Elon Musk stealing a bit of Thiel’s playbook and parlaying it to stock market success is funny in the context of their rivalry. absolutely both megalomaniacal dorks, but Musk’s grift is barely opaque after a quick look and Thiel thinks he’s truly subversive while being such a caustic shithead

mh, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 02:02 (two years ago) link

I saw peter thiel in a park in Beverly Hills a couple of weeks back. He seemed to have joined a friend who had kids. He stood next to my while I pushed my kid on the swings and was confused about whether there was a correct way to face the kid on the swing. Not a joke.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 02:33 (two years ago) link

that was a cusp that affected the future of humankind

mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 02:36 (two years ago) link

You should have had your kid kick that Elizabeth Bathory motherfucker in the head.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 10:55 (two years ago) link

max said broadly the same thing haha

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 23 September 2021 16:07 (two years ago) link

The joys of living on the bleeding edge- a thread:

On the way to dinner tonight my @Tesla literally locked up IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HIGHWAY! A message Ive never seen before popped up saying "Vehicle May Not Restart: Service required"

Well thats no good I think... pic.twitter.com/Q4Dm492y4Z

— Pooch @Repkord (@repkord) September 23, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 23 September 2021 16:08 (two years ago) link

oops

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 September 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link

Just unplug it, wait 30 seconds, then plug it in again.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 September 2021 16:26 (two years ago) link

Zap the PRAM

DJI, Thursday, 23 September 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link

There are other EVs out there and more to come. Eventually Tesla will run out of fools.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 23 September 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/hlLtyraCF5 https://t.co/BXefM0tEci

— literally a grrl ghost 🎃 (@GrrlGhost) September 24, 2021

certified juice therapist (harbl), Friday, 24 September 2021 15:36 (two years ago) link

the prophecy is fulfilled https://t.co/Rg6xLSi6Z8 pic.twitter.com/ULDi9suDAy

— Scott Chegg (@buckfastbadlad) September 24, 2021

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 24 September 2021 15:52 (two years ago) link

😭😭not apartheid Clyde pic.twitter.com/HxfRXfqfAk

— Edward Ongweso Jr (@bigblackjacobin) September 24, 2021

apartheid clyde

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 24 September 2021 16:18 (two years ago) link

I'm curious to what the azealiabanks account actually said now, because it appears to have gotten it suspended.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 24 September 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link

TOWSON 1-2 N CHARLES ST & W TOWSONTOWN BL - VEHICLE FIRE. TESLA ON FIRE. REQUEST LARGE CAPACITY WATER TANKER, HAZMAT UNIT, AND FOAM UNIT DUE TO ELECTRIC VEHICLE ON FIRE. ROAD IS BLOCKED #BCOTRAFFIC @LVFC30 @ProvidenceVFC29 @BaltCoFire pic.twitter.com/hJfPyTcwfx

— Baltimore Co. Volunteer Firefighter’s Association (@BaltCoVolFire) October 1, 2021

certified juice therapist (harbl), Friday, 1 October 2021 12:10 (two years ago) link

hmmm

https://i.imgur.com/I3RHZ0x.png

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 October 2021 13:59 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Guy wearing a spacex shirt walked in to loudly observe “it’s like if you pressed pause during a scene in a play” pic.twitter.com/4N06zmkFBb

— ethnic steve (@EthnicSteve) October 17, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 17 October 2021 22:41 (two years ago) link

HAs S HE HAD PLASTIC S

| (Latham Green), Monday, 18 October 2021 13:15 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

https://elonmusk.today/

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 18 November 2021 20:40 (two years ago) link

The new Tesla is great except it randomly, strongly and inexplicably brakes when it definitely shouldn't between one and five times an hour.https://t.co/3ZcrvD6HIx pic.twitter.com/X1gNGs2Rtb

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) November 26, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 26 November 2021 18:00 (two years ago) link

my boyfriend is great but he randomly, strongly and inexplicably cheats on me when he definitely shouldn't between one and five times an hour.

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Friday, 26 November 2021 18:17 (two years ago) link

tbf that tweet makes it seem like the review understates major problems when really its pretty negative and recommends against buying

And, dear reader, I'm sorry to say, this first one will not be good. The Model Y is a phenomenal achievement in many ways, a great blend of range and practicality and even performance mixed with a suite of unique features that are as useful as they are distinct. But, as it stands, you absolutely should not buy one. Let me elaborate on the why.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/reviews/2021-tesla-model-y-review/

lag∞n, Friday, 26 November 2021 18:31 (two years ago) link

rode in a friends tesla on a 5hr road trip a few months ago (i dont remember what model they have), and the constant sudden braking was infuriating. it was a lot of 55mph rural roads, and the brakes would automatically activate any time the car passed anywhere near any stop sign, incl ones on intersecting secondary roads we passed, as well as lots of other times on the open road for seemingly no reason. it was really annoying.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 26 November 2021 18:56 (two years ago) link

jesus

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Friday, 26 November 2021 19:09 (two years ago) link

wouldn't even buy a self-driving sack cart off this cunt.

calzino, Friday, 26 November 2021 20:41 (two years ago) link

"There is no way to sugarcoat this."https://t.co/jRxERoK8AI

— Futurism (@futurism) November 30, 2021



Musk continued to make his frustrations loud and clear in the email, while also stressing the severity of the situation. He even went as far as demanding his employees return to work despite it being a holiday weekend.
“Unless you have critical family matters or cannot physically return to Hawthorne, we will need all hands on deck to recover from what is, quite frankly, a disaster,” he wrote.
Musk added that even though he had planned to take the weekend off, he would “be on the Raptor line all night and through the weekend.”

mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 18:36 (two years ago) link

prelude to telsa buying space x i guess

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 18:48 (two years ago) link

Heltsley to Elon: "I learned it by watching you!"

Oxnard Jeweler (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link

In email leaked by Elon musk Elon musk claims spacex facing bankruptcy

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 00:06 (two years ago) link

might be an attempt at imitating jim bakker and expecting the money to flow in

adam t. (abanana), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 00:08 (two years ago) link

space ain't cheap

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 00:22 (two years ago) link

looks like a cupcake

https://i.postimg.cc/nzd0QGv5/image.png

, Friday, 3 December 2021 01:24 (two years ago) link

darth vader with the mask off lookin ass

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 3 December 2021 01:27 (two years ago) link

lmao crust punk finally mainstreamed

lag∞n, Friday, 3 December 2021 01:27 (two years ago) link

omg lol

mh, Friday, 3 December 2021 01:47 (two years ago) link

is he afrikaner? just wondering the origin story

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 December 2021 01:51 (two years ago) link

have you heard him speak, and not just in the last few years where his accent is just weird

mh, Friday, 3 December 2021 04:18 (two years ago) link

Time magazine has devolved into something very bad.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 13 December 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link

they’ve captured the 2021 zeitgeist pretty well there

mh, Monday, 13 December 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link

And they expect people will pay them to read/look at that?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 13 December 2021 19:46 (two years ago) link

I just saw the incredible documentary about the Thai cave rescue, I was so afraid that he was going to pop up at any point, even as a punchline, but thankfully it completely ignores 100% of his bullshit.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 December 2021 19:51 (two years ago) link

I'm ok with that choice. he is an exemplar of the bullshit americans eat up. now that trump is out of the spotlight musk's the biggest one still going.

adam t. (abanana), Monday, 13 December 2021 20:08 (two years ago) link

as best i can tell, musk has very little actual real-world impact?

he's just a fantastically rich memelord, which honestly makes him a perfect selection

mookieproof, Monday, 13 December 2021 20:16 (two years ago) link

all those stupid fake satellites have a real world effect bcz you can;t see the stars properly any more :(

also pareene's argument here (tho tbf this has not yet manifested in the real world): https://theap.substack.com/p/losing-a-street-fight-to-elon-musk

mark s, Monday, 13 December 2021 20:20 (two years ago) link

ps time was always shit and made hitler person of the year in 1938

mark s, Monday, 13 December 2021 20:21 (two years ago) link

hitler did have quite an effect in 1938

mh, Monday, 13 December 2021 20:23 (two years ago) link

oy that pareene piece makes horrible sense.

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Monday, 13 December 2021 20:28 (two years ago) link

lol i just realised that "man of the year" was time magazine pioneering shitposting

backwards walked sentences until banned the zoo

mark s, Monday, 13 December 2021 20:28 (two years ago) link

Remember when

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0f/Time_youcover01.jpg/220px-Time_youcover01.jpg

Someone got paid for that. Perhaps even a number of someones.

Rep. Cobra Commander (R-TX) (Old Lunch), Monday, 13 December 2021 20:48 (two years ago) link

fuck off old lunch i was the person of the year in 2007 you cant take that away from me

mark s, Monday, 13 December 2021 20:49 (two years ago) link

i'm enjoying my control of the information age

towards fungal computer (harbl), Monday, 13 December 2021 20:52 (two years ago) link

One time Spin named my hard drive album of the year.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 December 2021 20:58 (two years ago) link

i felt so welcomed into my world in 2007

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Monday, 13 December 2021 21:24 (two years ago) link

this guy could be a good alternate for Time

Former US Senate candidate and first Maine resident to catch COVID Max Linn found dead in hot tub after being sued for pulling gun on former aide during cryptocurrency disagreement https://t.co/Q238V2UFwU

— Nathan Bernard (@nathanTbernard) December 13, 2021

mh, Monday, 13 December 2021 21:24 (two years ago) link

should have used this for the cover instead of a picture of a guy with plugs

Based on current trends, probably close to zero new cases in US too by end of April

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 19, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 13 December 2021 21:38 (two years ago) link

plug this payment interface into your website. plug your car into the wall. plug this hair into my skull. plug this cable into your brain. plug up space with this garbage. man of the year. plugger of the century.

accordion folder full of Zoobooks (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 13 December 2021 22:31 (two years ago) link

Should have just named "Plugs" as whatever of the year.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 December 2021 22:50 (two years ago) link

when you're a plugger, every problem looks like a receptacle

accordion folder full of Zoobooks (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 13 December 2021 22:56 (two years ago) link

This magazine cover looks like a prop on the office wall of the next Bond villain.

Rep. Cobra Commander (R-TX) (Old Lunch), Monday, 13 December 2021 23:00 (two years ago) link

it is only natural that the villain of Bond would be Plug

accordion folder full of Zoobooks (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 13 December 2021 23:08 (two years ago) link

I'm old enough to remember when Adam Schefter was Time's Man of the Year

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 December 2021 23:13 (two years ago) link

(Ha ha)

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 13 December 2021 23:46 (two years ago) link

I love the way Time gave it to Nixon in '71 and then a joint award to Nixon/Kissinger the year after 👏👏👏 quality work lads 👏👏👏

calzino, Monday, 13 December 2021 23:57 (two years ago) link

kissinger got the peace prize in 73. they pulled the trigger too early

mh, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 04:05 (two years ago) link

well, yeah

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGf91ymXMAE9niU?format=jpg&name=small

mookieproof, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 04:48 (two years ago) link

Yeah just a little off the top and then lets go with a full undercut to make sure the hair transplant scars are visible in the profile pic.twitter.com/bwq6FqxOtd

— warrior cop (@wyatt_privilege) December 14, 2021

towards fungal computer (harbl), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 13:43 (two years ago) link

https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-11-2016/o9USOS.gif

mark s, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 16:18 (two years ago) link

is that gromes on the left

rob, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link

@chadkirchner What do you know about Tesla apparently using 2017 packs in brand new cars? I’ve never heard about this before. pic.twitter.com/EHa1X05CG7

— William (@willzlife) December 19, 2021

lag∞n, Monday, 20 December 2021 02:07 (two years ago) link

one of the design "quriks" on Teslas is that they have no consistency whatsoever. I remember an article about some mechanic who disassembled 10+ of them and found that no two were built alike; most of them were missing bolts or clamps somewhere. that was a couple years ago...I doubt anything's changed since

frogbs, Monday, 20 December 2021 02:56 (two years ago) link

yeah their qc is famously awful

lag∞n, Monday, 20 December 2021 03:02 (two years ago) link

my little brother bought one and it wound up bricking within 100 miles. randomly shut off and wouldn't start back up. spent hours on the phone and they even sent a tech out there but they couldn't get it working so they had to tow it away. now to their credit they did give him a full refund but they also banned him from buying a new Tesla for a year (??)

frogbs, Monday, 20 December 2021 03:09 (two years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Monday, 20 December 2021 03:10 (two years ago) link

Did your brother ask if they could extend the ban

Vinnie, Monday, 20 December 2021 03:15 (two years ago) link

lmao thats fantastic

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 20 December 2021 03:21 (two years ago) link

do you have games on your phone pic.twitter.com/p5tOJ5Am3y

— br◎seph (@on3ness) December 20, 2021

lag∞n, Monday, 20 December 2021 04:06 (two years ago) link

oh no

mookieproof, Monday, 20 December 2021 04:23 (two years ago) link

Musk has a honky Kim Jong-un vibe.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 20 December 2021 05:12 (two years ago) link

How long until Kanye designs a car.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 December 2021 12:08 (two years ago) link

That remote ignition killswitch in subprime cars? It's now in Teslas. https://t.co/r2TbiNdIr2

— Cory Doctorow MOSTLY AFK (@doctorow) December 20, 2021

lag∞n, Monday, 20 December 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link

what could go wrong?

US probes potential of drivers playing video games in Teslas

ATHENS, Ohio (AP) — The U.S. has opened a formal investigation into the potential for Tesla drivers to play video games on a center touch screen while the vehicle is in motion.

In a document posted Wednesday on its website, the agency says the feature, called “Passenger Play,” may distract the driver and increase the risk of a crash...

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 22 December 2021 23:10 (two years ago) link

we heard you liked tetris so we put tetris in your tesla and also we want you to die

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 December 2021 03:30 (two years ago) link

one of the design "quriks" on Teslas is that they have no consistency whatsoever.

I live in a Tesla-heavy town and can confirm this. Start looking at basic defects like doors and trunk lids that don't quite line-up correctly and once you see enough differences among different Teslas it gets pretty obvious.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 23 December 2021 07:44 (two years ago) link

👀 https://t.co/oZ8yvZgjZ9

— The Urbanist (@UrbanistOrg) December 30, 2021

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 December 2021 18:35 (two years ago) link

You realise that if he was ever to become involved in some sort of scandal and subsequent cover-up, newspapers could use the headline, "Elongate"
― Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, October 31, 2012 4:50 PM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Is it finally time to use this?

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 30 December 2021 18:38 (two years ago) link

Lol their stock price is actually up today, what a joke

frogbs, Thursday, 30 December 2021 18:42 (two years ago) link

iyo did Elon musk ruin the internet

concentrating on Rationality (the book) (will), Thursday, 30 December 2021 20:19 (two years ago) link

don’t cars have minor recall/maintenance things all the time? i’m looking for every opportunity to take shots at elon but meh

tbf every tesla probably has a dozen reasons for recall though

mh, Thursday, 30 December 2021 22:37 (two years ago) link

This is like half the Teslas ever sold though

frogbs, Thursday, 30 December 2021 23:49 (two years ago) link

they couldn’t admit that they aren’t sure which ones actually need a recall because there was no manual on how to run the camera wires and one team just stapled them to the trunk

mh, Friday, 31 December 2021 00:19 (two years ago) link

i'm a little confused by how this is reported, in part because i'm not sure how unusual it is to not know based on model whether the vehicle will have a defect. i do remember hearing/reading about tesla's lack of standards for components/assembly. the article says 1% of the model 3s in the recall are actually affected. i guess they would normally be able to limit it to a range of VINs.

towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 31 December 2021 01:42 (two years ago) link

one would think!

mh, Friday, 31 December 2021 05:06 (two years ago) link

"Don't worry. We can always fix it in the software."

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 31 December 2021 05:08 (two years ago) link

TESLA MOTORS - "Move fast and break things, literally."

earlnash, Friday, 31 December 2021 13:40 (two years ago) link

can't wait

Boring company's "traffic-jam-solving-tunnel" has traffic jams lol.

Cue everyone telling me that car tubes are more sustainable than an actual functioning public transit network 😉 pic.twitter.com/jLZ6YEhr20

— Matt Lowne (@Matt_Lowne) January 6, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 6 January 2022 17:46 (two years ago) link

Just wait until a car is disabled.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 January 2022 17:51 (two years ago) link

god the Elon stans are fucking exhausting:

Please explain how "public transit" which has been tried and rejected by the American people is suddenly just gonna start working?

— Kitsune Streaming Co (@co_kitsune) January 6, 2022

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 January 2022 18:10 (two years ago) link

please explain how "geometry" which has been tried and rejected by the american automobile is suddenly just going to start working.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 6 January 2022 18:20 (two years ago) link

love to reject something that exists in only the absolutely most desirable places to live

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 January 2022 18:21 (two years ago) link

Imagine all those rejected A line cars shuttling back and forth, empty and forlorn, never to start working.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 January 2022 18:26 (two years ago) link

Just wait until a terrorist puts bombs in self-driving cars at each end of a tunnel.

adam t. (abanana), Thursday, 6 January 2022 19:20 (two years ago) link

It's impossible to imagine such a thing, even though you have just imagined it and it would be amazingly simple and effective, if it were even possible to imagine it.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 6 January 2022 19:24 (two years ago) link

'welp, we tried subways, buses and ferries, they don't work so I guess it's just luxury cars from here on out!'

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 6 January 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link

love to reject something that exists in only the absolutely most desirable places to live

― lag∞n, Thursday, January 6, 2022 1:21 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is a good post

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 6 January 2022 19:34 (two years ago) link

I get that driving an automobile can be cool and was really novel in like the 1930s but the complete lack of historical perspective from these people kind of blows my mind

Not that I live a block from where a trolley track used to run and it would have taken directly me to the bar and grocery store that's just over a mile away or anything

mh, Thursday, 6 January 2022 20:35 (two years ago) link

*wistfully gazing at the spot where the trolley was*

mh, Thursday, 6 January 2022 20:35 (two years ago) link

I can't believe the single lane tunnel thing actually exists. What if a car bricks or randomly starts on fire or experiences any of the other weird issues that Teslas seem to have? How would people get out?

frogbs, Thursday, 6 January 2022 20:43 (two years ago) link

Or is this like the dream scenario for the Bazingas? Is there a nobler death...?

frogbs, Thursday, 6 January 2022 20:44 (two years ago) link

tunnel valhalla

mh, Thursday, 6 January 2022 20:45 (two years ago) link

Strong "'No Way To Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens" energy in that tweet above.

two sleeps till brooklyn (ledge), Thursday, 6 January 2022 20:58 (two years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/uiHoMrpifZ

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) January 9, 2022

Alba, Sunday, 9 January 2022 08:40 (two years ago) link

These death tunnels are fun and cool bc no matter how dumb the general population understands that they are, the ppl in charge are just going to do it anyway ☺️

concentrating on Rationality (the book) (will), Sunday, 9 January 2022 16:12 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZaRfNjTPx8

mh, Sunday, 9 January 2022 19:05 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpempCSp2-w

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 9 January 2022 20:00 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

this fuckwad

Canadian truckers rule

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) January 27, 2022

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Sunday, 30 January 2022 17:53 (two years ago) link

is that why he's going to replace them with self driving trucks?

StanM, Sunday, 30 January 2022 20:49 (two years ago) link

he just means truckers are the new government of canada which is technically correct

lag∞n, Sunday, 30 January 2022 20:57 (two years ago) link

lmao we programmed cars to break the law, what's the big deal??

He’s actually a lobbyist, not a journalist. There are many who pose as the latter while behaving like the former. No integrity.

Indeed, there were no safety issues. The car simply slowed to ~2 mph & continued forward if clear view with no cars or pedestrians.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 1, 2022

rob, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 13:58 (two years ago) link

this guy is such a piece of shit

lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 14:09 (two years ago) link

sad lol at essentially programming in a rolling stop. Self-driving cars: they're just like us!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 14:25 (two years ago) link

new Teslas come with deepfaked footage of you drinking "just one beer with dinner"

rob, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 14:27 (two years ago) link

i programmed my exploding car to run stop signs slowly in violation of every state's traffic laws

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 14:30 (two years ago) link

i know no one who is likely to be pulled over can afford this car lol

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 14:31 (two years ago) link

For that you have to shell out for the self-buying car, which is a bargain.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 14:39 (two years ago) link

i'm not going to research this right now but i think nhtsa may frown upon the ceo of a car company publicly saying something is not a safety issue at the same time they are announcing a recall for a safety issue

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 14:41 (two years ago) link

I have absolutely gotten pulled over for doing this lol

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 14:49 (two years ago) link

we’ll just have to write new traffic laws to accommodate a weird billionaire pissbaby. I don’t think it will be hard.

concentrating on Rationality (the book) (will), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 14:58 (two years ago) link

xpost But what if *you* didn't roll through the stop, what if it was the car?
https://video-images.vice.com/articles/60c09917f74527009a124228/lede/1623235200851-christine-car-on-fire.jpeg?crop=1xw%3A1xh%3Bcenter%2Ccenter&resize=2000%3A*

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 15:04 (two years ago) link

xpost - I have a feeling Tesla's legal team is also having a rough morning when seeing their CEO tweet out that the cars are programmed to directly break the law in, afaiui, every state.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 15:04 (two years ago) link

"lobbyist" is the new "narc"

rob, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 15:11 (two years ago) link

well they know that because this is the reason for yet another recall xp

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 15:37 (two years ago) link

Just saying that the tweeting of it out as "no safety issue" is probably not helpful.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 15:45 (two years ago) link

its only recently that tesla has been issuing recalls for software problems, which they were supposed to be doing all along

lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 15:46 (two years ago) link

elon is lying in his tweet there the cars were programmed to roll though at up to 5+ mph, just a reflexively dishonest person

lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 15:47 (two years ago) link

Does Elon's statement about the journalist amount to libel?

peace, man, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 15:49 (two years ago) link

I know nothing about law, just think that it would be cool if it did.

peace, man, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 15:50 (two years ago) link

I forget, what happened to the libel case of the guy he called a pedophile?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 16:03 (two years ago) link

Musk won

One of the smartest moves by Elon Musk's defence was in introducing the concept of "JDart", an acronym to describe their client's conduct on Twitter in relation to the infamous "pedo guy" tweet.

A JDart, lawyer Alex Spiro explained, meant: a Joke that was badly received, therefore Deleted, with an Apology and then Responsive Tweets to move on from the matter. JDart.

It's clumsy, for sure, but it meant Mr Spiro could offer the jury here a degree of structure around what before seemed senseless: Mr Musk may have acted foolishly with the J, but he soon "darted", which is how you know he wasn't being serious about the allegation.

Expect the JDart "standard" to be applied again and again, not just in libel trials, but in any arena where social media behaviour is under scrutiny - a parachute for anyone who, in the heat of the moment, says something idiotic online.

peace, man, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 16:15 (two years ago) link

Of course he won, he's a billionaire. He can do whatever the fuck he wants, including goosing the stocks of his own companies via tweets whenever its convenient.

Unless you are poor or marginalized, the age of consequences is over.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 16:18 (two years ago) link

I had this dream or Elon Musk made it with a woman appeared as a golden shower and her babies were alien babies. This was either a dream or just something I thought about

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 17:22 (two years ago) link

Pretty sure that was his relationship with Grimes right there

Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 17:59 (two years ago) link

A JDart, lawyer Alex Spiro explained, meant: a Joke that was badly received, therefore Deleted, with an Apology and then Responsive Tweets to move on from the matter.

Smart lawyer, stupid jury. A sensational lie will always outrun a lame apology. As for 'responsive tweets', they may as well be dropped into the Mariana Trench.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 18:52 (two years ago) link

Yeah grimes alien 👽

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 22:27 (two years ago) link

your honor when I publicly admitted the cars were programmed to break the law I was just being "based"

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 22:37 (two years ago) link

the car learned it from you, dad!

Vinnie, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 23:52 (two years ago) link

SpaceX loses 40 satellites to geomagnetic storm a day after launch

SpaceX has lost dozens of satellites after they were hit by a geomagnetic storm a day after launch, causing them to fall from orbit and burn up...

Musk vs. The Sun, a battle royale

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 18:56 (two years ago) link

If I've learned anything from the film Geostorm, the only solution is to send Musk himself into space to repair the satellites, before he takes the fight to the sun itself.

The creator of Ultra Games, for Nintendo (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:26 (two years ago) link

He can definitely launch a private sun... competition breeds innovation

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:31 (two years ago) link

Neuralink trials going well

some elon musk reply guy is about to make "flowers for algernon" look like a success story pic.twitter.com/2YsRvc3EMj

— a non-suspicious guy you aren't worried about 😏 (@ChrisCaesar) February 10, 2022

frogbs, Friday, 11 February 2022 02:03 (two years ago) link

Oh and

California is suing Elon Musk's Tesla, alleging it runs a "racially segregated" workplace and discriminates against Black employees.

Black workers report being concentrated in parts of its factory (one called "the plantation" by other workers) and hearing slurs up to 100x daily. pic.twitter.com/2vmD3oo13G

— AJ+ (@ajplus) February 10, 2022

frogbs, Friday, 11 February 2022 02:07 (two years ago) link

why would a guy who grew in the apartheid ruling class do this

lag∞n, Friday, 11 February 2022 02:31 (two years ago) link

JFC @ that neuralink story. (Sadly?) I'm sure he could fill up some trials with his fanboys.

DJI, Friday, 11 February 2022 03:10 (two years ago) link

yeah the self-mutilating monkey is uh fucking wild

frogbs, Friday, 11 February 2022 03:11 (two years ago) link

I hate this evil psychopath so much.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 11 February 2022 11:08 (two years ago) link

Yeah this is next level horrifying. Where’s PETA when you need them?

Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 11 February 2022 14:22 (two years ago) link

So whether the chip was supposed to kill them or not, it still doesn’t really work. https://t.co/GjPnqxo6uS

— Noah Garfinkel (@NoahGarfinkel) February 12, 2022

chihuahuau, Saturday, 12 February 2022 12:34 (two years ago) link

Musk removes mask and reveals reptilian face a la "V" miniseries

| (Latham Green), Monday, 14 February 2022 13:43 (two years ago) link

Then swallows a monkey whole.

nickn, Monday, 14 February 2022 18:14 (two years ago) link

he'd obv rather test on humans but the FDA can be so fickle

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 14 February 2022 18:39 (two years ago) link

https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1946074-elon-musk

o. nate, Monday, 14 February 2022 18:45 (two years ago) link

ELON has too much power. I miss pre-elon times

| (Latham Green), Saturday, 19 February 2022 23:31 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

there is nothing this dude loves more than having eight zillion children and tweeting his way through it

mh, Friday, 11 March 2022 14:06 (two years ago) link

hectic week for everyone:

Grimes is dating leaker Chelsea Manning after Elon Musk breakup https://t.co/l0PmWDPskN pic.twitter.com/7a5TgyG02i

— Page Six (@PageSix) March 11, 2022

mark s, Friday, 11 March 2022 18:04 (two years ago) link

what in the hell

lag∞n, Friday, 11 March 2022 18:44 (two years ago) link

wow

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 11 March 2022 18:47 (two years ago) link

A union built to last!

extra dark sideræl rusk (Matt #2), Friday, 11 March 2022 19:51 (two years ago) link

had never realized how much they look like each other.

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 12 March 2022 05:46 (two years ago) link

edgy

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNz7FYdXIAYMxHN?format=jpg&name=small

mookieproof, Monday, 14 March 2022 13:45 (two years ago) link

What happened in 10 days? pic.twitter.com/1ePAo0w0nG

— David Weigel (@daveweigel) March 14, 2022

symsymsym, Monday, 14 March 2022 15:03 (two years ago) link

Too many politicians/corporations/media figures came out in support of Ukraine I guess

frogbs, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:21 (two years ago) link

Like what the fuck is this. Dude is 50 years old

pic.twitter.com/Gw6xaw1u0N

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 14, 2022

frogbs, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:25 (two years ago) link

lmao that is extremely pathetic if the Chelsea Manning rumor is true

rob, Monday, 14 March 2022 17:54 (two years ago) link

haha that’s it

"What I desperately, desperately need is for you to think that I’m cool and funny. I need this. Please give me that satisfaction." — @elonmusk https://t.co/otpfnBSMrj pic.twitter.com/O5Tg5ht5yZ

— The Onion (@TheOnion) March 24, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 26 March 2022 21:03 (two years ago) link

translation: he got rejected from Berghain, life is alright sometimes

They wrote PEACE on the wall at Berghain! I refused enter.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) April 3, 2022

Murgatroid, Sunday, 3 April 2022 19:49 (two years ago) link

he’s so silly. I guess you’d call it “cringe” now but there needs to be something stronger than cringe. everything’s cringe

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Sunday, 3 April 2022 22:46 (two years ago) link

Terrible disappointment for the Berghain pee guy I'm sure.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 3 April 2022 23:11 (two years ago) link

I do not know what that means but if his plan was to pee on Elon then I suppose so. honestly I’m disappointed too

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Sunday, 3 April 2022 23:27 (two years ago) link

Well well.

https://www.ft.com/content/29b9c884-02d7-4d1c-a4ab-c862242fa76e

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 April 2022 11:47 (two years ago) link

Now he'll be able to say anything he wants!

nashwan, Monday, 4 April 2022 12:00 (two years ago) link

hi

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 4 April 2022 16:09 (two years ago) link

ask him for a free tesla model x plaid 0-60 2.3 seconds

lag∞n, Monday, 4 April 2022 16:14 (two years ago) link

gonna ask him to stop doing a culture of racism in the workplace

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 4 April 2022 18:54 (two years ago) link

i mean thats fine too

lag∞n, Monday, 4 April 2022 19:56 (two years ago) link

The worst people seem to become politicians and billionaires

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 4 April 2022 20:11 (two years ago) link

he just bought a big chunk of Twitter

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 4 April 2022 20:22 (two years ago) link

Not cynical/sinister at all

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 4 April 2022 20:22 (two years ago) link

he also has a convertible floating through space

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 4 April 2022 20:28 (two years ago) link

the tesla floating in space, courtesy of space-x, is a good example of corporate synergy, where the energies brought into alignment are the dumb ideas elon has when stoned

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 4 April 2022 20:43 (two years ago) link

stoned on cocaine maybe

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Monday, 4 April 2022 22:14 (two years ago) link

I couldn't write this script if I tried. pic.twitter.com/vRQN9wpzqg

— Jillian C. York (@jilliancyork) April 5, 2022

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 01:29 (two years ago) link

abysmal real names

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 01:52 (two years ago) link

xp don’t do this at me

mh, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 04:51 (two years ago) link

It seems the Starlinks he sent to Ukraine are really making a difference:

https://www.pcmag.com/news/ukraine-now-using-over-10000-starlink-units-to-keep-country-online

o. nate, Thursday, 7 April 2022 19:29 (two years ago) link

This woman was brought to tears over the mere sight of Elon Musk. Psychotic. pic.twitter.com/WqMMbVHEGx

— Matt Saincome (@MattSaincome) April 8, 2022

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 8 April 2022 18:10 (two years ago) link

he's the fifth Beatle

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 8 April 2022 18:46 (two years ago) link

more like the filth butthole

Toxoplasmosis Jones (cat), Friday, 8 April 2022 21:24 (two years ago) link

Whoops!

Elon has decided not to join our board. I sent a brief note to the company, sharing with you all here. pic.twitter.com/lfrXACavvk

— Parag Agrawal (@paraga) April 11, 2022

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 April 2022 03:27 (two years ago) link

Is this the reason pic.twitter.com/xwlDhTv1Rf

— Ryan Mac 🙃 (@RMac18) April 11, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 11 April 2022 04:25 (two years ago) link

https://s3-prod.autonews.com/s3fs-public/MUSK_TEXAS-MAIN_i.jpg

"ARE YOU READY FOR FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE?!?!"

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 11 April 2022 04:51 (two years ago) link

he looks stoned

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 11 April 2022 04:52 (two years ago) link

He looks like he's wearing a human suit.

peace, man, Monday, 11 April 2022 10:26 (two years ago) link

we tried to have him join the board where he would have legal obligations to act in the best interests of the company and all its shareholders but strangely he chose the option to remain a chaos agent

— Mister Zingers (@allahliker) April 11, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 11 April 2022 12:31 (two years ago) link

He is now offering to buy the company outright.

peace, man, Thursday, 14 April 2022 11:23 (two years ago) link

Who controls the memes,
controls the Universe

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 26, 2020

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 April 2022 11:48 (two years ago) link

king shit

Karl Malone, Thursday, 14 April 2022 15:40 (two years ago) link

i meant that in a bad way, haha

whatta world

Karl Malone, Thursday, 14 April 2022 15:41 (two years ago) link

dude really has become the real-life Mr Burns

frogbs, Thursday, 14 April 2022 15:46 (two years ago) link

if he offers to buy ILX for more than $10 billion, though, i suggest we take it

Karl Malone, Thursday, 14 April 2022 15:49 (two years ago) link

"Trending in the UK: Mastodon"

koogs, Thursday, 14 April 2022 16:14 (two years ago) link

It’s weird when someone uses a platform to break federal securities law and then later buys the platform.

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) April 14, 2022

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 14 April 2022 16:18 (two years ago) link

god, i bet he's going to somehow introduce crypto into twitter, too

Karl Malone, Thursday, 14 April 2022 16:22 (two years ago) link

man, Batman (1989) fucking NAILED our current era

Karl Malone, Thursday, 14 April 2022 16:22 (two years ago) link

it's uncanny how much back to the future 2 and batman both featured the cartoon supervillains, one a total idiot and bitter, the other a maniacal troll who is bitter

Karl Malone, Thursday, 14 April 2022 16:24 (two years ago) link

tomorrow's news today

https://i.imgur.com/fPkRVJ9.gif

Karl Malone, Thursday, 14 April 2022 16:26 (two years ago) link

He bid $54.20 per share

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 14 April 2022 19:06 (two years ago) link

Trump will get back his twitter account.

This will be Elon's legacy.

— John_Hempton (@John_Hempton) April 14, 2022

o. nate, Thursday, 14 April 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link

forums lawsuithttps://t.co/NxuVxcFoRShttps://t.co/w09DnLypDB pic.twitter.com/fV7lVH84ud

— Goons_TXT (@Goons_TXT) April 14, 2022

, Thursday, 14 April 2022 19:42 (two years ago) link

phew close one

Journalists breath a sign of relief as Musk is blocked from buying Twitter by *adjusts glasses* Mohammed bin Salman. pic.twitter.com/Ic5b8xi1Mv

— Pessimists Archive (@PessimistsArc) April 14, 2022

nashwan, Thursday, 14 April 2022 22:09 (two years ago) link

Underground tunnels are immune to surface weather conditions (subways are a good example), so it wouldn’t matter to Hyperloop if a hurricane was raging on the surface. You wouldn’t even notice.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) April 24, 2022

mookieproof, Monday, 25 April 2022 02:08 (two years ago) link

does this guy actually believe his stupid tunnels are a good idea or is all just part of his pr scam

lag∞n, Monday, 25 April 2022 02:28 (two years ago) link

there is no difference in his own mind, that's the cool thing about post-Trump America

frogbs, Monday, 25 April 2022 02:29 (two years ago) link

https://t.co/iWDzIqnMDz pic.twitter.com/5x7NMAunxN

— Rob (@robrousseau) April 25, 2022

frogbs, Monday, 25 April 2022 03:00 (two years ago) link

NY Times is saying the Musk and the Twitter board may announce a deal as soon as today.

o. nate, Monday, 25 April 2022 14:13 (two years ago) link

wonder what hes up to with all this, for a guy who relies so heavily on a a fawning media becoming admin of the media message board seems like a pretty dicey proposition, lot of potential negative exposure there with im not sure what the upside is

lag∞n, Monday, 25 April 2022 14:18 (two years ago) link

maybe its all a pump and dump to keep whatever major account fraud hes running at tesla going

lag∞n, Monday, 25 April 2022 14:19 (two years ago) link

man, if Musk buys Twitter it's going to full of guys making claims they can't back up

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 25 April 2022 14:20 (two years ago) link

Nazis running amok.

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 25 April 2022 14:23 (two years ago) link

Seems like he wants to make it more like Telegram, ie. less interference in people posting whatever they want?

o. nate, Monday, 25 April 2022 14:26 (two years ago) link

maybe its all a pump and dump to keep whatever major account fraud hes running at tesla going

I guess it's pump and dump that he's got planned to keep tunnels open during a hurricane.

pplains, Monday, 25 April 2022 14:27 (two years ago) link

Seems like he wants to make it more like Telegram, ie. less interference in people posting whatever they want?

― o. nate, Monday, April 25, 2022 10:26 AM (thirty-seven seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

i mean you couldnt come up with a better way to get bad press, is he going to reinstate trump whats going on here, this man is supposed to be selling cars

lag∞n, Monday, 25 April 2022 14:29 (two years ago) link

twitter would become unusable and worth nothing overnight if they really went "free speech", even if they just do some minor tinkering around the edges its gonna be a media firestorm, maybe he really thinks he can ride with his meme stock people to... somewhere? idk

lag∞n, Monday, 25 April 2022 14:33 (two years ago) link

my assumption was that it was a pump and dump, no one would actually let him buy it, and he’d unload all the shares he bought as soon as that became clear to him but before the public caught on

we already know the SEC barely slaps him on the wrist, it’d be just slightly more blatant than his last few grifts

mh, Monday, 25 April 2022 14:37 (two years ago) link

yeah thats what i was thinking too but it seems like hes going through with it

lag∞n, Monday, 25 April 2022 14:38 (two years ago) link

not like he’ll be out any cash either way, it’s all borrowing against his tesla shares

mh, Monday, 25 April 2022 14:44 (two years ago) link

there are also policies & laws restricting speech in countries outside the US (I think the EU just announced more today?) that a Musk-owned twitter can't just ignore, so it seems like pure vanity right now

rob, Monday, 25 April 2022 14:44 (two years ago) link

Apparently he has some other ideas too: A crack-down on bots (supposedly this is easier to do as a private company because it will initially impact user-engagement metrics in a negative way, which would cause stock volatility), an option to pay a nominal fee for a blue-check, more transparency around the algorithms. At least you can say one thing for Musk as an owner, he is also a customer, and he seems to have some strong opinions on ways Twitter could be improved. Like those old TV ads: I liked this shaver so much I bought the company!

o. nate, Monday, 25 April 2022 15:04 (two years ago) link

wld be funny if he came in and just improved the user experience i guess

lag∞n, Monday, 25 April 2022 15:05 (two years ago) link

and yeah its true that sort of stuff is much easier when you dont have to watch the stock price

lag∞n, Monday, 25 April 2022 15:06 (two years ago) link

however! the concerns of a user with 83m followers are not those of the average poster

lag∞n, Monday, 25 April 2022 15:10 (two years ago) link

i would like a big heart button, bigger than the current small heart

Karl Malone, Monday, 25 April 2022 15:16 (two years ago) link

Will be cool when twitter has lots of pricing tiers. Sovereign Individual level the highest, of course.

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 25 April 2022 15:30 (two years ago) link

is he going to reinstate trump

I assume this would be one of his first acts. I'm not sure it will be quite the seismic event people seem to think though, I think it's possible Trump has benefited from not being out there looking like a complete idiot every day.

Beyond thinking nobody should have as much money as Musk has, with the ability to singlehandedly purchase powerful media platforms, I have a hard time getting too worked up about him and Twitter specifically. Twitter already sucks, he'll still have to do a fair amount of moderation just to keep the most obviously noxious stuff off. I guess he'll let people post unlimited anti-vaxx shit, but I feel like that ship has sailed anyway.

I'm kind of secretly hoping he ruins twitter just so I spend less time there

silverfish, Monday, 25 April 2022 15:44 (two years ago) link

also it would be funny

lag∞n, Monday, 25 April 2022 15:45 (two years ago) link

I guess when you're as rich as Musk there's not much left that you can spend money on that will put any appreciable dent in your net worth. The only things one can buy with a price tag that runs into the tens of billions is a successful company or maybe a top-tier prestige sports team. He already runs a rocket-ship company, so that rules out another popular vanity billionaire project.

o. nate, Monday, 25 April 2022 15:58 (two years ago) link

lets not forget the ape murdering brain implant company

lag∞n, Monday, 25 April 2022 16:01 (two years ago) link

Someone tell him about Chelsea

greyfriars boaby (Matt #2), Monday, 25 April 2022 16:02 (two years ago) link

remember when our parasitic capitalist overlords used to at least feel compelled to assuage their unadmitted guilt by endowing scholarships, research laboratories, local libraries, orchestras and opera companies, etc.? not that i really want to line up for tickets at the Elon Musk Theater, mind you. but still.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 25 April 2022 16:02 (two years ago) link

elon musk is not a good role model

Karl Malone, Monday, 25 April 2022 16:03 (two years ago) link

I guess it was inevitable the world would be run by Heinlein characters

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 25 April 2022 16:07 (two years ago) link

twitter is so bad already, and the people i know who use it the most are often the ones who complain loudest & most frequently about how terrible it is, its hard to for me to imagine how Elon could ruin it in such a way that a substantial number of people actually stop using it, short of intentionally removing the addictive elements of the design

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 25 April 2022 16:15 (two years ago) link

hmm. Well, if blues checks are for sale, conservative billionaires will buy them for every idiot troll, rendering them meaningless. Not too bad.

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 25 April 2022 16:18 (two years ago) link

I guess there's a chance Trump wouldn't come back even if invited. It would pretty much mean acknowledging defeat for his Truth Social app, although OTOH it could be a face-saving off-ramp for him to shut it down.

o. nate, Monday, 25 April 2022 16:20 (two years ago) link

not that i really want to line up for tickets at the Elon Musk Theater, mind you. but still.


It would just be Rick and Morty reruns

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 25 April 2022 16:26 (two years ago) link

im persuaded

mark s, Monday, 25 April 2022 16:28 (two years ago) link

stoked for the madness tbh

Number One shlong in Devon (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 April 2022 18:55 (two years ago) link

When's he gonna buy ilxor.com?

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 25 April 2022 19:05 (two years ago) link

As soon as he meets our asking price of $60,000

Karl Malone, Monday, 25 April 2022 19:06 (two years ago) link

you sell us short karl

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 25 April 2022 19:13 (two years ago) link

think of all the CONTENT he'd have control over! 14,786,235 messages and counting! including thousands of posts by celebrities like ned and nabisco

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 25 April 2022 19:15 (two years ago) link

getting ready to post hourly photos of him photoshopped eating poop

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 April 2022 19:23 (two years ago) link

Another possible motivation is that this gives Musk a good excuse to diversify $20B or so out of wildly expensive TSLA stock.

o. nate, Monday, 25 April 2022 19:56 (two years ago) link

Thanks Dave.

This exchange continues to haunt me pic.twitter.com/W06oSqx0MR

— Dave Smith (@redletterdave) April 25, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 25 April 2022 20:09 (two years ago) link

he should have married it instead

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 25 April 2022 20:46 (two years ago) link

well.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 25 April 2022 21:02 (two years ago) link

the "free speech absolutist" thing is so incredibly stupid. I remember an era where there really was "free speech" online and it fucking sucked. you couldn't look at anything in a public setting because people would spam goatse everywhere. decent message boards would get brigaded and become unusable. like, look at the YouTube live comment boxes whenever there's a political event going on (at least, back when there actually was live chat) - just an endless parade of racial slurs and swastikas. Elon himself has been known to retaliate against anyone who speaks up against him so it's blindingly obvious that his "free speech" charge is just replacing one type of moderation with another. idk how this is gonna work out for him but I can't imagine it will be good!!

frogbs, Monday, 25 April 2022 21:03 (two years ago) link

It would kinda dope if Musk bought Twitter and just shut it off…. Lol

— ICE T (@FINALLEVEL) April 25, 2022

mh, Monday, 25 April 2022 21:06 (two years ago) link

didn't he promise an edit button for twitter? can't wait for an endless parade of people getting 100K retweets on "jack in the box hit different at 1AM" and editing it to say something like "hitler was cool and the age of consent should be 9"

JoeStork, Monday, 25 April 2022 21:08 (two years ago) link

frogbs otm

Tracer Hand, Monday, 25 April 2022 21:09 (two years ago) link

and joestork

and ice-t tbh

Tracer Hand, Monday, 25 April 2022 21:10 (two years ago) link

Maybe Pierre Omidyar could buy Truth Social

JoeStork, Monday, 25 April 2022 21:12 (two years ago) link

Making Twitter not suck is a simple matter of curating one's feed. I have the former president's name muted, I have Kanye West's name muted, and I don't follow any political accounts unless they have something else to offer, so basically my Twitter feed is a stream of people talking about jazz and metal and art (and pro wrestling, but whaddya gonna do).

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 25 April 2022 21:32 (two years ago) link

So proud to be supporting an African owned business✊

— Liam Bright (@lastpositivist) April 25, 2022

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 25 April 2022 21:37 (two years ago) link

yup the conservatives have finally learned a second joke

frogbs, Monday, 25 April 2022 21:41 (two years ago) link

reddit was seriously ideologically committed to free speech absolutism for many years and they eventually had to abandon it after it proved to be totally unworkable, expecting this to basically play out the same way except stupider. problems included totally unchecked harassment (already a problem on twitter as is), borderline child porn, creep shots of women, and the obvious nazis.

musk really should have bought reddit though, it's still the most elon musk social media site.

ufo, Monday, 25 April 2022 22:10 (two years ago) link

Making Twitter not suck is a simple matter of curating one's feed.

No. That's only making one's feed not suck. Twitter would still be a cesspool.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 25 April 2022 22:15 (two years ago) link

also can I say it fucking sucks that "free speech", which is legitimately under attack right now from a political party that is trying to sanitize American history, determine what can and can't be taught to kids, and is now punishing companies for not discriminating against certain employees, is instead used to mean "you have to engage with my shitty, bad faith arguments". drives me up the fucking wall that the right wing is always complaining about "big tech censorship" when the objective reality is that most social media platforms have been bending over backwards to appease them!!

frogbs, Monday, 25 April 2022 22:42 (two years ago) link

OTFM

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 25 April 2022 22:44 (two years ago) link

I found a weirdo on there who is a Dunning-Kruger candidate that claims to be THE source on COVID, even though he's not a virologist or immunologist or epidemiologist or doctor and won't give his credentials other "I'm a social scientist" or "I wrote this substack". and dude is followed and given actual words of support by tons of legitimate experts, people like Dr Kim Prather, who is an aerosol specialist who actually gets interviewed and quoted in major COVID stories.

kooks wind up in your feed even if you follow reputable people, cos they get retweeted by people you do follow

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 April 2022 22:48 (two years ago) link

frogbs otm and i'm legit depressed living in FL atm

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 April 2022 22:48 (two years ago) link

I wonder if he’ll just more or less leave it as is, at least for a while. too many (undoubtedly dumb) changes in the interest of making it too epic or owning his detractors via TOS or what have you, and I’d suspect lots of people will just bounce.

or are there some platforms (eg Facebook??) that are just Too Big to Fail?

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Monday, 25 April 2022 23:53 (two years ago) link

He's pretty likely to leave it as is I think. There'll be PR stuff around free speech and whatnot, but in terms of actually changes that seems a lot less likely

anvil, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 11:16 (one year ago) link

I feel uncomfortable with this latest Twitter purchase antic

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 12:12 (one year ago) link

what would be the point of buying it if hes not going to change it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 12:39 (one year ago) link

He’ll waltz in and try to make it more epic but will break it badly and piss off employees because he has no idea what he’s doing, then dump it when it becomes too much of a hassle.

Chris L, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 13:13 (one year ago) link

i suspect hes got some sort of business idea to make it worth more, not saying its going to work or that its really substantial but kinda doubt hes just doing this for the lolz or whatever

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 13:18 (one year ago) link

one thing going in his favor is his demonstrated ability get weird money losing business overvalued

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 13:19 (one year ago) link

on the other hand there is a non zero chance he is just actually going crazy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 13:20 (one year ago) link

one interesting thing that could happen during this process is teslas stock price coming back to earth

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link

my guess is that he's the impulsive pea-brain flibbertigibbet front-puppet for a crew of way more sinister and hardheaded forces (thiel obv but not just thiel) who are happy to let him blunder hither and yon breaking things while they corral the culture-war responses to the elements unleashed

they allow him to think he is doing one thing (w/his vast cloud of dimwit simps n minions shrieking in excitement at every development) while quietly firming up their own stuff

do these dark forces have a high opinion of him? no of course not -- they despise him more than we do lol, he is just their dullard princeling wound up and pointed at stuff they wanted knocked over

at outside worst (for them) (and best for us) all his crypto-currency will be rugged at some point soon 👍🏽

mark s, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link

hair plugs, dumb cars, 2nd (3rd?) divorce. he’s probably having the richest man on earth’s rarefied version of a midlife crisis.

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 13:46 (one year ago) link

No. That's only making one's feed not suck. Twitter would still be a cesspool.

― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 25 April 2022 bookmarkflaglink

How would you know?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link

I know all kinds of twitter bullshit that no one I follow engages in

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 14:42 (one year ago) link

i logged off forever and yet am still exposed to Horrible Tweets basically every day

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link

literally every time this comes up some super users are like "you just gotta rigorously customize your feed, it's so easy" and personally i think you're all sociopaths

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 14:49 (one year ago) link

i suspect hes got some sort of business idea to make it worth more, not saying its going to work or that its really substantial but kinda doubt hes just doing this for the lolz or whatever

I don't think hes buying it for the lols, and he may or may not have certain plans for it, but what does that look like in practice? If its to make it into a 'free speech haven' or something, I don't see how thats possible, all those free speech alternatives that keep springing up are moderated to the hilt

anvil, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link

I know all kinds of twitter bullshit that no one I follow engages in

― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 bookmarkflaglink

But you've got an account, that's usually enough.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link

also the degree to which everyone is performing for the likes undermines it as a useful transmitter of ... information, criticism, *jack voice* consciousness. i should be posting this in the twitter thread

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link

this is why i'm glad ilx has no likes system, you can only tell if your posts are good if everyone says "otm" afterwards

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link

Musk is taking on $25 billion in debt financing to acquire Twitter, at an avg interest rate of between 4.5-5%. That means Twitter's going to have to pay $1.15-$1.3 billion a year in interest alone, which is more than it made before interest and taxes last year.

— James Surowiecki (@JamesSurowiecki) April 26, 2022

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link

good at business

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link

xxpost I kind of like the "tough room" aspect of ilx. Who cares if a bunch of dum dums like my tweet? I'd rather get a "heh" from a jaded Replacements fan.

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link

literally every time this comes up some super users are like "you just gotta rigorously customize your feed, it's so easy" and personally i think you're all sociopaths

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, April 26, 2022 9:49 AM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is 100% right, but I'm also an old cranky twitter user who just uses tweetbot on my phone 99% of the time. it's just people I follow, all chronological

mh, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link

I also stopped replying to comments on tweets that are dumb and just block people who make egregious replies to people I follow instead of replying, because the urge to reply to bad twets gives me bad brain

mh, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link

i like looking straight into the vortex of chaos like those dudes in CHERNOBYL (2019) who opened a door and there was the naked reactor glowing spookily back at them

mark s, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

apparently the terms of the loan Elon took out against his tesla shares are really funny

if he can't pay back the loan -- which he probably never will have to, all these guys do is just chain loans forever -- he'll have to forfeit five times the number of tesla shares compared to its current valuation

mh, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:06 (one year ago) link

related: he mainly wants to play pump-yr-crypto, including w/the algs

mark s, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:07 (one year ago) link

people really don't get the "stock rich, cash poor" thing. saw a few tweets about how he could have given every person in the world X amount of dollars instead of buying twitter, etc

there's no cash! if a stock-rich guy wants to buy anything more expensive than a hamburger they just take out a loan against their stock assets

mh, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link

I think ppl saying this is going to fail massively overrate the degree to which insanely rich people fail at anything. At some point, being rich is self-fulfilling.

we only steal from the greatest books (PBKR), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link

Expecting capitalism or market forces or whatever to punish the richest person on earth seems to be missing the point.

we only steal from the greatest books (PBKR), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link

Mh otm. Afaict, claims the financing is dumb book down the same idea as “the government should run its checking account like a family”

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

*boil

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

Elon now on first name basis with EU

Brussels has warned Elon Musk that Twitter must comply with the EU’s new digital rules under his ownership or risk hefty fines or even a ban, setting the stage for a global regulatory battle over the future of the social media platform.

Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner for the internal market, told the Financial Times that Elon Musk must follow rules on moderating illegal and harmful content online after Twitter accepted the billionaire’s $44 billion takeover offer.

Breton said: “We welcome everyone. We are open but on our conditions. At least we know what to tell him: ‘Elon, there are rules. You are welcome but these are our rules. It’s not your rules which will apply here.’”

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/04/eu-warns-elon-musk-over-twitter-moderation-plans/

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link

I don't think hes buying it for the lols, and he may or may not have certain plans for it, but what does that look like in practice? If its to make it into a 'free speech haven' or something, I don't see how thats possible, all those free speech alternatives that keep springing up are moderated to the hilt

― anvil, Tuesday, April 26, 2022 10:51 AM (thirty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i mean obvs i dont know what hes planning but i suspect the free speech thing is just marketing because as everyone knows any internet place with actual free speech will immediately fill with nazis and kiddie porn so i suspect hell make minor "free speech" changes and call it a victory for freedom

as far as predicting what hell do i guess we can look at what hes done with his other businesses which is some sort of mix of extravagant lying in the media and shady accounting, to his credit hes been insanely successful with that approach tho i do think twitter might be difficult to accomplish the same stuff with because its a more mature business and it has an extremely high level of visibility and scrutiny

i could see him spending a bunch of money to juice the stats and then take it public again in a couple years with all his meme stock fans jumping on board, hell prob make some ux changes maybe try to get the newsletter business off the ground which he could then point to as an area of growth, maybe make twitter blue the twitter you pay for worth peoples while

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link

it does seem like he’s taking a massive risk that might tank his cash cow of a car company for no apparent gain, but idk maybe he’s a business genius

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

not in response to you lagoon, all of that does seem plausible

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link

i think he'll integrate crypto into it somehow, anyhow

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link

hes def some sort of business/media genius, its not nothing to become the richest man in the world, but who knows if his approach is viable long term, i personally wouldnt be surprised if his story ended with a major accounting fraud scandal

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link

maybe that’s the identity verification bit

twitter ids will be blockchain lol

mh, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:41 (one year ago) link

the richest man in the world

It's funny how people repeat this in the very same sentence where they talk about how he has no cash and it's all about grotesquely overvalued (and massively leveraged) Tesla stock. Like, if your "wealth" is entirely based on the collective delusion of speculators, sycophants, and other rich scumbags who don't want to see the balloon pop during their lifetimes, are you really rich? Or does it just look that way on paper?

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link

its paper all the way down, but yeah musk is prob in some ways less rich than the other super rich guys, bill gates still owns a ton of microsoft but at least microsoft is a mature profitable business

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:49 (one year ago) link

when you really think about it the true riches are… friendship

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link

twitter ids will be blockchain lol

― mh, Tuesday, April 26, 2022 11:41 AM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i need to see this attempted, as a fan of engineering disasters

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link

as far as predicting what hell do i guess we can look at what hes done with his other businesses which is some sort of mix of extravagant lying in the media and shady accounting, to his credit hes been insanely successful with that approach

I mean yeah, he's successful in the same sense Trump is. which is a sense that's divorced from what we might think of *real* markers of success like, you know, doing things that are innovative or smart disruptive or actually delivering on any of your promises at all. I mean it's the same with crypto, you can make all the arguments and two-hour long videos you want explaining about how the stuff is idiotic & completely useless, but that only matters if "value" is a tangible thing, and in 2022 what's "valuable" is convincing people who spend 80% of their waking hours on social media that they're cool and smart and that everyone else sucks

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link

Eventually, the house of cards comes down.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link

yeah i'm not doubting that he has a certain kind of genius, but buying twitter and putting up your car company as collateral is a dumb risk, even if it winds up working out.

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link

I feel like we’re ramping up to the second Brosnan Bond flick, folks, the one with Michelle Yeoh

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link

tbf tesla does make and sell actual cars which differentiates it from crypto which is just nothing, but yeah their certainly is a lot of hot air around both

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:58 (one year ago) link

yeah i'm not doubting that he has a certain kind of genius, but buying twitter and putting up your car company as collateral is a dumb risk, even if it winds up working out.

― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, April 26, 2022 11:54 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

saw someone who knows things about him call him the most risk tolerant person theyd ever encountered, which yeah thats prob not going to end well

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

just going to put this here...

"What is more, Musk has agreed to take out a risky $12.5 billion margin loan, secured against his stock of Tesla Inc (TSLA.O), the electric-car maker that he leads, to pay for some of the $33.5 billion equity check. Were Tesla's stock to drop by 40%, he would have to repay that loan, a regulatory filing shows."

and then note that tesla is down 10.2% so far today.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

i mean he doesn't actually repay the loan. he just takes out another loan if that happens. but he's stretched!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

i do think twitter might be difficult to accomplish the same stuff with because its a more mature business and it has an extremely high level of visibility and scrutiny

true for the content more or less, but their revenue is nearly entirely from the quasi-invisible and underscrutinized world of digital ads

rob, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

And monetization of user data.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link

Melty but authoritative tech journo I know says ‘wait, he still has to pass due diligence and a shareholder vote, not so fast’ but OTOH was like, ‘he’s not buying it’ seconds before the announcement. 🤷🏻‍♀️

the thin blue lying (suzy), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

xp
yeah it's 89% ads, 11% data licensing

rob, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link

tesla is down 10.2% so far today.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, April 26, 2022 12:10 PM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQzMUM7WUAMly1w?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

back of the envelope calculation, only googled quick facts that might not be accurate today
Elon has 17% of Tesla, at today's valuation, that's roughly $176 billion
twitter deal is for roughly $44 billion

margin loan is for $12.5 billion

if the payback is really 5x if he fails to pay it off... he's out $62.5 billion (probably off, considering he inked the margin deal at +10% stock price)

so he'd lose 35% of his Tesla stock

mh, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link

idk that still seems like a drop in the bucket

mh, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link

losing that much tesla stock makes him likely to lose even more wealth if the price drops

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link

Each quarter, if Tesla meets certain revenue, earnings and stock price goals, Musk can earn up to two tranches of Tesla options from this award. The $70.01 per share Musk will have to pay to exercise these Tesla options is less than 10% of the company's closing stock price of $977.20 per share on Wednesday.

Nope, as long as Tesla makes money, which they seem to finally be doing, he gets stock at $70 and the current price is still hovering around $900

mh, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link

good work if you can get it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link

succession clip logan roy asks son kendall roy “is that why you’re paying a billion dollars for a gay little website?” pic.twitter.com/VzsaQmZhdt

— succession clips and reaction videos (@successionreact) April 26, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

Was wondering when the Succession refs were gonna start

Wait until X Æ A-Xii grows up

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link

"I think people are recognizing that Elon Musk has created a lot of value for his companies by being unhinged on Twitter." @matt_levine got Chotiner'd but not in a bad way!!!! https://t.co/lZv0mzISj0

— Silvia Killingsworth (@silviakillings) April 26, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link

max's take seems about right to me

https://maxread.substack.com/p/elon-musk-wont-fix-twitter-but-he

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link

Agree. Max's key point:

"Elon Musk's experience with Twitter is that he tweets, and then, whatever he said, whatever the context, he becomes richer. Why would he do anything to change that?"

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

idk i dont think elon is buying twitter to keep it the same is a real strong theory

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

like he might not be buying it to change it but hes buying it for some reason

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

is max gonna come back too

imago, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link

he def thinks he can optimize it at the very least, which is change anyway even if its motivated admiration rather than distaste

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:35 (one year ago) link

i heard elon musk just bought gawker

imago, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link

"Granted, one reason that many commentators believe Musk is buying Twitter to "fix" its commitment to "free speech" is that he has said more or less that. What I am proposing here is that he is full of shit."

this is sound. the idea that he's buying it not to change it is a shakier leap but seems entirely plausible.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

as in he's deliberately lying about making any "free speech" related changes or more that he'll merely announce some essentially meaningless tweaks to moderation policies and call it a day once he realizes what he's stepped in?

rob, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

well, i think more that he is known to lie all the time about his plans and there's no reason to pay any attention to what he claims his plans are.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link

lol fair

rob, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

why would he buy it to keep it the same does he think its gonna change so much that he wont be able to post, credit to max where its due twitter works good for musk and hes not going to do things to threaten that, but still his motivation for the buying it remains mysterious, maybe he just likes twitter so much he wants to have it hold it in his hands idk, i do suspect hes got some more businessy plan too tho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

the free speech thing is transparently at least mostly bs tho i bet he does change the rules some maybe back to where they were a while ago when you were allowed to make death threats

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

but hes buying it for some reason


oh def. and I’d guess regarding the longer term he’s likely got something really shitty planned for it (and for all of us, tbh). my own thought was that, at least initially, he probably wouldn’t want to spook the ecosystem too much by, say, immediately banning pics of him hanging out with child traffickers or users who think the marginal tax rate on billionaires is too low, all while simultaneously letting it become the newest MAGA/8-Chan freeezepeach zone. gotta boil these frogs

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link

idk if you were actually formally allowed to make death threats but you at least could do it without censure

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link

if i had to guess at his business ambitions for twitter id guess they lay at the nexus of thinking he can make it better and thinking he can pump and dump it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link

he’s doing it so he can slide into the dms of women not following him

mh, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

xp problem is there's only one rich idiot willing to buy Twitter

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

xp self tho matt levine suggested a third use in that nyer interview i posted upthread which is using it to pump and dump other things, which of course is something elon has already done extensively but could do even more if he controlled the platform and had access to all its data

He might say, “Look, I get so much value out of this direct access to the public.” Owning that direct access to the public—owning that thing that creates so much value for Elon Musk and Tesla—it has to be valuable somehow, whether it’s by increasing the value that it creates for Tesla, or whether it’s by finding a way to monetize the value that it creates for sports stars and celebrities and Donald Trump and lots of other people. You know, Donald Trump’s tweets back when he was on Twitter could create billions or trillions of dollars’ worth of market moves, right? And Twitter never made a lot of money off of that. It’s not obvious how the company would, but if you’re sitting on top of a thing that can create that much value, surely, if you’re really smart then you can extract some value out of it.

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

problem is there's only one rich idiot willing to buy Twitter

― frogbs, Tuesday, April 26, 2022 3:55 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he could take it public again and rely on his arm of fans to buy it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

he is actually on the record now about what he means by "free speech", and his definition is not maximally bad fwiw.

By “free speech”, I simply mean that which matches the law.

I am against censorship that goes far beyond the law.

If people want less free speech, they will ask government to pass laws to that effect.

Therefore, going beyond the law is contrary to the will of the people.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) April 26, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

he definition seems idiotic, but it's not "twitter is now international waters"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

twitter is maritime law

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link

flying under the "I LOVE CRICKET: THE CHINATOWN OF ILX" flag of convenience

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link

of course

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link

reasonable point

"Far" is the (welcome! and valuable!) giveaway that this is essentially bullshit https://t.co/OBvRQsW1as

— Tom Scocca (@tomscocca) April 26, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

eh, if musk were a careful writer i would agree, but i don't think a precise, word-level reading of musk tweets is a good use of scocca's time.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link

but yeah, that tweet seems ... not inconsistent with max's thesis

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link

It's utter gobbledygook.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:28 (one year ago) link

i don't know about you all, but i'm still on @jack's enlightened path. i am following the thin clear light, not the thick smoky red and yellow lights

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

So $1bn/year in debt service on Twitter itself and almost that on his personal loans?

Twitter getting Toys R Us-ed would be pretty cool.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:39 (one year ago) link

Levine mentioned bringing in equity for his personal stake - Musktokens sold to his most rabid fanboys to help him live the dream?

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link

nice circular reasoning there you dumb idiot

towards fungal computer (harbl), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 21:12 (one year ago) link

I wonder how he will react to endless bot creation of accounts that constantly put him down

attack of the Anti_muskbots

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link

does his purchase include the title of 'twitter founder'

mookieproof, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 23:07 (one year ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 23:07 (one year ago) link

when will the $54.20 tweet be sold as a NFT?

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 01:07 (one year ago) link

The stock market does not really make all that much sense to me. I just don't see why businesses like Tesla and Twitter are hyped as being worth THAT much f'n money based on their actual sales. I get that they have unique technology and could grow into their big boy pants, but I can't get why they are worth like 8 times more than a company that sells 6-7 times more dollars worth of the same stuff. It just just doesn't seem to me that Microsoft or Oracle or any of the tech now true "bluebloods" were that out of whack in the days of 90s stock market hard on yore.

I got to go back to reading comics or listening to rock or playing guitar as if I start focusing on this stuff I wish the sun would go nova and wipe this planet out of the heavens.

earlnash, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 01:22 (one year ago) link

It is pretty fucked up that for 99.9% of the planet money is a tangible thing that you only earn so much of each month but for certain ultra rich people it’s more of an idea which has nothing to do with your actual value or work ethic and is based on all sorts of imaginary concepts like speculation and leverage, plus can be manipulated in all sorts of (illegal) ways to ensure that the only people who will be affected by your shitty decisions are those who can afford it least

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 01:32 (one year ago) link

lol did not see the first part of that tweet

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRUGxSMWYAAigeA?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 01:38 (one year ago) link

If I got from one of the tweets I read, basically Twitters total sales is like Olive Garden...which would not have sold for 43Billion dollars. Is this correct or am I misunderstanding the situation?

earlnash, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 01:53 (one year ago) link

"Free speech is the law, man"

https://thegatewayonline.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Elon-musk-blunt.jpg

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 01:58 (one year ago) link

If I got from one of the tweets I read, basically Twitters total sales is like Olive Garden...which would not have sold for 43Billion dollars. Is this correct or am I misunderstanding the situation?

to be fair the electric car market is due to undergo significantly more expansion than the family friendly italian chain restaurant market.

ledge, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 12:03 (one year ago) link

hospitaliano has always been undervalued by wall street

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 12:06 (one year ago) link

eyyy I make-a the sauce

mh, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link

I wish Italian Elon Musk bought Twitter instead.

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 13:34 (one year ago) link

Oh wait you said twitter not tesla... nah i got nothing.

ledge, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 13:37 (one year ago) link

No refundo

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 13:44 (one year ago) link

like Olive Garden, Twitter offers unlimited sadness and fuckwits

rob, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 13:48 (one year ago) link

i went to Olive Garden once and the busboy who walked by saw my shirt and said "Iron Maiden? (giggle) wow!"

you will find him buried under Tropicana Field

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 13:50 (one year ago) link

ah well nevertheless

It’s looking increasingly likely that Elon Musk will withdraw his $44 billion takeover offer for Twitter. https://t.co/Mcf7PbiC0a

— Ian Fraser (@Ian_Fraser) April 27, 2022

(nothing definitive in the article just speculation fwiw)

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link

There are good reasons for him to get cold feet. The biggest is Tesla. The electric-vehicle maker’s stock has fallen around a fifth since Musk first revealed his stake in Twitter, partly because Musk may sell shares to fund his new adventure. If Tesla’s stock bounces back – likely if the Twitter deal falls away – the $40 billion of recouped wealth would more than make up for the break fee.

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link

the homonculi in my brain in my brain rn

https://i.imgur.com/2AYRAjc.png

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link

announcing he's going to buy Twitter, posting a shitload about how he's going to "fix" it, then not actually buying it would be so incredibly in character

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 21:51 (one year ago) link

lmao i wish i could get my opinions posted on reuters.com

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link

just get a job as an opinion writer for reuters.com

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 22:11 (one year ago) link

*takes notes*

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 22:12 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/1CE7rjBrNH

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) April 27, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 23:34 (one year ago) link

The agreement also stated Musk would have to pay Twitter $1bn if he walks away from the deal.

That might make twitter actually profitable for a week or two

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link

fucking timcast

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link

DeBear quite pointedly speaks only in terms of "ideas" and "communication", which are nice neutral terms, he does mention "extremism" in passing, but he carefully doesn't mention that genocide, violent white supremacy, death threats, doxxing, and purposeful campaigns of lies or slander directed at groups or individuals all fall neatly under those innocuous headings "ideas" and "communication". He argues that nothing effective can be done to end these things, so nothing should be attempted.

I can't wait until he's the target of such "ideas" and "communication" to see how he likes the sit-on-your-hands approach.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 28 April 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link

Gee Elon I wonder why Twitter seems biased against the party whose core platform is hate speech and misinformation

frogbs, Thursday, 28 April 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link

I will never be tricked into clicking on a freddie dB link

mh, Thursday, 28 April 2022 00:46 (one year ago) link

freddie is the ultimate making a guy up to get mad at guy

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 April 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

with age comes wisdom

(hb mh)

xp

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 28 April 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

xp otm

mh, Thursday, 28 April 2022 00:57 (one year ago) link

I thought he had disappeared off the face of the planet tbh.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 28 April 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

So he's basically the poor man's GG now?

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 28 April 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

I can't wait until he's the target of such "ideas" and "communication" to see how he likes the sit-on-your-hands approach.

He's more of a fan of the "falsely accuse someone you disagree with of rape" approach. Fuck that dude.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 28 April 2022 01:07 (one year ago) link

Hear hear

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 April 2022 01:09 (one year ago) link

"Why won't you debate me?"

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 April 2022 01:14 (one year ago) link

So he's basically the poor man's GG now?


For a second I thought you mean Allin.

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 28 April 2022 01:37 (one year ago) link

Tweeting on my piss

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 April 2022 01:54 (one year ago) link

Next I’m buying Coca-Cola to put the cocaine back in

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) April 28, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 April 2022 02:12 (one year ago) link

Starting to think I might reply to some recruiters tomorrow.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 28 April 2022 02:14 (one year ago) link

things seem to be escalating

Karl Malone, Thursday, 28 April 2022 02:18 (one year ago) link

he should def keep posting

Clay, Thursday, 28 April 2022 02:21 (one year ago) link

it's not the side effects of the cocaine
I'm thinking that it must be love

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 April 2022 02:21 (one year ago) link

Musk's version of being a billionaire (trolling, lulz, financial crimes, drugs, $43bn toys) is far more comprehensible than, say, Warren Buffett's life.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 28 April 2022 02:23 (one year ago) link

it is pretty funny to just be like hey ill buy this website why not, wld be better if he werent such a shithead tho

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 April 2022 02:24 (one year ago) link

if i were a billionaire i would also buy cool fun stuff like websites

Clay, Thursday, 28 April 2022 02:29 (one year ago) link

is there a name for the phenomenon where rich people do objectively stupid things yet are still honored as titanic visionaries?

i mean, besides fascism

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 April 2022 02:34 (one year ago) link

sycophancy

🐦[Next I’m buying Coca-Cola to put the cocaine back in
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) April 28, 2022🕸]🐦


he’s buying twitter to put the wit back in

estela, Thursday, 28 April 2022 03:07 (one year ago) link

what a twit

Pre-Raphaelite Brah (King Boy Pato), Thursday, 28 April 2022 03:18 (one year ago) link

Is all this just stock market manipulation like all his other bollocks has been?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 28 April 2022 04:03 (one year ago) link

#DeleteTwitter

DT, Thursday, 28 April 2022 05:21 (one year ago) link

let go

― RJG (RJG), Saturday, January 6, 2007 7:43 AM (fifteen years ago)

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 April 2022 05:38 (one year ago) link

will tesla be able to bounce back

Karl Malone, Thursday, 28 April 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link

they don't bounce, they have collision detection

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 April 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

*manical 1989 Joker laughing*

Karl Malone, Thursday, 28 April 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link

alert the UN

beepy fridges (sic), Thursday, 28 April 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

i do think the chances of elon musk consolidating a bunch of "essential services" (aka, everyone who agrees with him that twitter is THE digital "public square") and then doing a rug pull and flying off into space with a quadrillion stolen US dollars is > 2.5%

Karl Malone, Thursday, 28 April 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link

even those that got especially burned would just be like "well we always knew elon was a trickster at heart"

Karl Malone, Thursday, 28 April 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link

he has the technology to colonise mars he should go do it NOW and take his fanboys with him as space-minions, i wd applaud that

mark s, Thursday, 28 April 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/7eV7te6.png

Karl Malone, Thursday, 28 April 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

we really are just fulfilling versions of the future that were delivered in the form of popular films from the 1980s, including spaceballs ('87), batman (1989), and back to the future 2 (1989)

Karl Malone, Thursday, 28 April 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

what the fuck is this

pic.twitter.com/Q9OjlJhi7f

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) April 28, 2022

I don't really see how "the left has moved further left" outside of demanding more action on issues which have only gotten progressively worse since 2008. as I recall the right literally tried to overthrow the government just 15 months ago and are currently booting out anyone who doesn't believe the election was stolen. this fucking guy.

frogbs, Thursday, 28 April 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

he's such a scientist

towards fungal computer (harbl), Thursday, 28 April 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

its the standard way to justify going fash

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 April 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

Does he have people creating these tweets for him? He must.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 April 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link

Yeah, for instance I was screaming for marriage equality since basically I was of voting age, and back then, it was a conversation that never went beyond the hypothetical because it seemed like it was forever away.

I and other like-minded screamed louder about it when it started to gain momentum on a state and national level. Yeah I'm sure there were plenty of center-lefts who were either "pro-civil union" or anti-gay marriage that eventually gravitated towards the position, but there were a large chunk of people who were merely expressing what they always believed.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 April 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link

i'm a little confused because they are all at different scales?

towards fungal computer (harbl), Thursday, 28 April 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link

i mean democrats have def moved left as a group but thats not really the point of the drawing

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 April 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

I'm embarrassed that it only just occurred to me that he's going to make a run in 2024.

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 April 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

I think the idea that you'd be center-left in 2008, change none of your stances, and now be center-right is what people on the online left would call a "shitlib?"

basically, you are progressive about some issues but don't really reevaluate your stances over time, so your snapshot of what the world is like fossilizes when you reach some level of disconnect in life and anyone who challenges the status quo in a progressive way after that just seems too far left

why would you want anything to change when your world is great? maybe things have gone too far!!

mh, Thursday, 28 April 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

I'm embarrassed that it only just occurred to me that he's going to make a run in 2024.

A run for what? He's ineligible to run for president.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 April 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link

Shh, let him try and waste his money.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 28 April 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link

also it's not really *his* money, it mostly belongs to banks and such

mark s, Thursday, 28 April 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

not that that stopped trump

mark s, Thursday, 28 April 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

that he's going to make a run in 2024

He'll have to buy the nation and change the constitution, but that ain't no big thang

Love how 'woke' is now considered some kind of insult in the right-o-sphere, like 'snowflake' was a few years back

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 28 April 2022 20:07 (one year ago) link

Does he have people creating these tweets for him? He must.

He generally just steals other people's tweets and uses them without attribution. Someone named Colin Wright tweeted this cartoon. Its at least several months old.

o. nate, Thursday, 28 April 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link

Rules mean nothing. He will run.

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 April 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

i'm a little confused because they are all at different scales?

― towards fungal computer (harbl), Thursday, April 28, 2022 3:53 PM bookmarkflaglink

lol yes i enjoyed that aspect of his shitty comic as well

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 April 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link

He generally just steals other people's tweets and uses them without attribution. Someone named Colin Wright tweeted this cartoon. Its at least several months old.

― o. nate, Thursday, April 28, 2022 3:10 PM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

iirc he made a big deal out of this a couple years ago, he stole someone's meme and got a ton of likes on it and when the original artist asked to be credited he threw a tantrum over it, like "this is ruining the internet" type bullshit

frogbs, Thursday, 28 April 2022 20:33 (one year ago) link

im tired of this guy lets release him into space

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 April 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/szO8Aru.png

Karl Malone, Thursday, 28 April 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link

one small step for him

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 April 2022 20:58 (one year ago) link

It’s pretty clearly an egocentric illustration, where he is the unchanging center of the universe, and the only way he can explain away his rightward lurch is to claim the left is going further left. Which is complete fucking bullshit, it’s plain as day that the right is going far right and trying to shift the center further to the right. Elon has shifted right as his wealth skyrockets and he stops wanting to use his wealth for the greater good. Maybe he likes to think of his stance as unchanging, but he is deluded.

epistantophus, Thursday, 28 April 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link

well yeah as soon as I saw that tweet I thought "I bet this was actually researched and he's completely wrong"

frogbs, Thursday, 28 April 2022 21:48 (one year ago) link

Anyone not caught trying to bring a loaded pistol onto a plane is now a bleeding heart RINO

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 28 April 2022 21:56 (one year ago) link

The hundreds of people trying to correct Musk on Twitter were really missing the point.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 28 April 2022 22:46 (one year ago) link

Yeah you can argue with him all you want, he's telling you where he is: on the right. (Not that this is some big revelation obv)

Love how 'woke' is now considered some kind of insult in the right-o-sphere

Y'know what would really throw them? If the left claimed "born again" as its jargon term for having arrived at a deeper personal understanding of structural racism, class warfare and the marginalization of vulnerable people... and then doggedly stuck with it in the face of the aghast outcry from the white evangelicals. I don't think the Black church be all that bothered.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 29 April 2022 00:55 (one year ago) link

I strongly supported Obama for President, but today’s Democratic Party has been hijacked by extremists

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) April 29, 2022

I'd rather have Frank Zappa move into my house than spend a single minute around this guy

frogbs, Friday, 29 April 2022 02:26 (one year ago) link

this is very much “name one elected official and what they’ve done you dislike”

several said mean things about Elon, I guess

mh, Friday, 29 April 2022 02:46 (one year ago) link

His assimilation won't be complete until he starts saying Democrat Party instead of Democratic.

Oh cool, all cool then...

But I’m no fan of the far right either.

Let’s have less hate and more love.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) April 29, 2022

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Friday, 29 April 2022 12:47 (one year ago) link

- Bob Marley, famous center-right musician

Tracer Hand, Friday, 29 April 2022 13:15 (one year ago) link

get up stand up
stand up for the (center)-right

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 April 2022 13:26 (one year ago) link

this guy's just like every other "socially liberal, fiscally conservative" george w bush, backward-baseball-hat, co-ed naked lacross, marquette attending, son of a property developer, douchebag stoner bro motherfucker out there, absolutely nothing special about him much less his tweets

Tracer Hand, Friday, 29 April 2022 13:48 (one year ago) link

Oh, I see, “strongly” supported. You supported him very strongly. Who have you been talking to lately?

epistantophus, Friday, 29 April 2022 13:50 (one year ago) link

Isn't it weird that Musk perceives the left as becoming more radical at roughly the pace that more people have discovered he's a giant shithead.

Chris L, Friday, 29 April 2022 13:52 (one year ago) link

🤔

Tracer Hand, Friday, 29 April 2022 13:54 (one year ago) link

I wonder where he puts cryptofucks on his political line. Probably just where he places himself - the happy face in the middle

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 April 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link

The thing that I'm losing my mind over is the simplistic idea that the ideological spectrum is a line where specific views and positions are objectively fixed in place as "center," "left," "far-left," etc., as though those classifications aren't constantly being shaped by political actors and institutions.

jaymc, Friday, 29 April 2022 14:50 (one year ago) link

this guy's just like every other "socially liberal, fiscally conservative" george w bush, backward-baseball-hat, co-ed naked lacross, marquette attending, son of a property developer, douchebag stoner bro motherfucker out there, absolutely nothing special about him much less his tweets

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 29 April 2022 13:48 (one hour ago) link

except he definitely doesn't lift

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Friday, 29 April 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link

i feel like there's a whiff of old money to him too but yeah the way to the top in the u.s. is to fully become its bourgeoisie.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Friday, 29 April 2022 15:04 (one year ago) link

His assimilation won't be complete until he starts saying Democrat Party instead of Democratic.

which is just a logical hop/skip/jump to Demon-crat

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 29 April 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link

Yeah this is just standard ‘abused centrist’ bullshit, I wouldn’t be in the least surprised if Elon forms most of his opinions by using a sockpuppet to circlejerk in the most techbro corners of Reddit. This abused centrist mindset seems to be a reaction against having one’s biases called out publicly.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 29 April 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link

i'm a little confused because they are all at different scales?

― towards fungal computer (harbl), Thursday, April 28, 2022 2:53 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

yeah, if you make the "center" the zero / index point, he seems to be saying that both "woke" democrats and "lol" republicans have moved further away from the center, are both at the very edge, and that he himself used to be left of center but has now moved to the right?

https://i.imgur.com/a2NB0ag.png

damn, he IS a scientist

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 April 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link

It says the view of "center" and "right" are skewed by the "left" moving further left. It's a coherent lie.

Michael Flatley's (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 29 April 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link

better to focus on how it is embarrassing that he posted it

Michael Flatley's (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 29 April 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link

oh, i know what he was intending. i'm just saying, he did such a bad job with the chart that it doesn't actually show what he's implying.

want to see the worst annotated visualization of all time?

https://i.imgur.com/cEohjb1.png

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 April 2022 22:47 (one year ago) link

loooool

imago, Friday, 29 April 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link

So frustrating and dumb.

uh the Overton window has moved right.

We were asking for universal health care, unions and racial equality in 2008. As the crazies get crazier, the left just seems that further left when you move right.

octobeard, Friday, 29 April 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link

xxp In the visualization, only the "left" guy is moving (dust cloud). The rest is supposed to indicate perception only. So it doesn't matter that "right" guy is more right in the end. Or same for "center" guy. The point is that only "left" guy moved.

Michael Flatley's (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 30 April 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link

It is a dumb lie, but it isn't failing so hard at it's intended meaning.

Michael Flatley's (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 30 April 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link

I am failing so hard at using correct "its"

Michael Flatley's (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 30 April 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link

you make an interesting observation. none of us had considered the doppler effect and consequent distortion of perception. red shift indeed

imago, Saturday, 30 April 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

One thing to note is that the conservative always seems smugly pleased with his stubborn stasis

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 30 April 2022 00:17 (one year ago) link

i'm going to need to annotate my annotation

Karl Malone, Saturday, 30 April 2022 00:17 (one year ago) link

truly we have found the santorum.jpg of our age

imago, Saturday, 30 April 2022 00:19 (one year ago) link

i recently updated wallogina and it was received with incredibly bad reviews. some things are just best left as they were

Karl Malone, Saturday, 30 April 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

Van Halen put "update wallogina" at the end of their tour rider. If the manager found the same old wallogina in the dressing room, the band wouldn't show.

Michael Flatley's (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 30 April 2022 00:32 (one year ago) link

that's showbiz

Karl Malone, Saturday, 30 April 2022 00:37 (one year ago) link

i updated it, i added new frames of animation, i zoomed in. it was made for 2022. and yet, things had changed. some said that it would have been better if wallogina had never existed at all, but the following day they were on the same page as everyone else - wallogina needed to stay where it was. it didn't need to move like that

Karl Malone, Saturday, 30 April 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link

"What's he updaaaating in there?" -Tom Waits

Michael Flatley's (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 30 April 2022 00:55 (one year ago) link

I'll tell you one thing: he's not building a playhouse for the children.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 30 April 2022 00:58 (one year ago) link

or even updating a playhouse for the children...

Michael Flatley's (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 30 April 2022 01:38 (one year ago) link

no new laminate plank floors for the children.

Michael Flatley's (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 30 April 2022 01:40 (one year ago) link

ELON QUIT F'ING AROUND GET BACK TO YER ROCKETS SO YOU CHOADS CAN GET THE HELL OFF THIS PLANET.

earlnash, Saturday, 30 April 2022 01:41 (one year ago) link

now we're on nextdoor

Michael Flatley's (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 30 April 2022 01:41 (one year ago) link

I suppose most of this thread has reached this conclusion long ago, but is it possible this guy is just not good at anything? I'd always believed that if nothing else he was a tireless worker who knew some technical things but I'm starting to suspect he doesn't know jack shit about anything. His public statements are starting to sound like Trump any time he brings up windmills. Like remember how a lot of people were like "Trump isn't that dumb, he just knows how to provoke" and then it turns out he absolutely IS that dumb? Not only that but he's so fucking online in a way that suggests he's spending a shitload of time on Twitter/Reddit/4chan, plus he also seems to be way into several anime series with 7000 episodes, so where does he find the time to actually do like, CEO stuff? Is there any evidence of him being a better engineer than say, any random undergrad?

frogbs, Monday, 2 May 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link

one could almost take the next step and realize meritocracy isn't real

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 2 May 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

It's real, but it's a meritocracy of who can amass the best pile of bullshit.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 2 May 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link

a meritocra-do-u-c

Michael Flatley's (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 2 May 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

i’d like to think that, jimbeaux, but i don’t see the evidence

Tracer Hand, Monday, 2 May 2022 18:39 (one year ago) link

Yes, he's an asshole/troll, BUT so far..he has:
* Built up a very successful electric car company (which has so far paved the way for other companies to produce & market electric vehicles)
* Launched one of those cars with a spaceman dummy into outer space like some MTV ad from 1985

So that's not nothing

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 2 May 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link

Gotta hand it to him, Space X is pretty good at what it does. Of course, that's thanks to a ton of talented people.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 2 May 2022 19:00 (one year ago) link

February 10:

Elon Musk’s Starlink operation lost 40 out of 49 satellites it launched into the Earth’s upper atmosphere on Wednesday, as a geomagnetic storm knocked out the majority of the fleet.

Yul Brynner film festival on Channel 48... (sic), Monday, 2 May 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

mmm. i hate him and i'm skeptical he deserves any credit for this, but spaceflight is hard and spacex is objectively very good at spaceflight.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 May 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

yes but like, what has Elon actually done to facilitate sany of those things? Tesla existed before Elon Musk paid to be listed as "founder" and I am pretty sure a lot of their signature technology had already been developed. SpaceX has done some impressive things but the dude gets government grants which he uses to hire some of the smartest people in the country. Maybe I'm wrong but does Elon actually have anything to do with this? The impression I get is that all his companies would be much better run without him. You could argue that being a very visible troll online kickstarted Tesla's success and made them a household name, which I think speaks to jimbeaux's point. from what I see from ex-Tesla employees Musk is a Trump-like figure where half the challenge in working for him is figuring out how to appease all the dumb & unworkable ideas he brings to the table. with guys like Bezos, Gates, Buffet, etc. you at least get the impression that they know things and can get into the weeds on technical details, whereas with Musk I don't think I've ever seen a clip of him that made him look smart.

frogbs, Monday, 2 May 2022 19:08 (one year ago) link

eh, all granted, but right now i think he's smarter than the twitter board.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 May 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link

The impression I get is that all his companies would be much better run without him.

I'd give the guy some credit for keeping things rolling. He's absolutely a stock price manipulator with his whole online presence, but he pulled the same shenanigans playing investors and the government against the reality of what he was actually able to produce for years. A bunch of electric car companies have failed in the meantime, and on the SpaceX front, he was able to pull together the right group of people and realize launching crap into space was a market that was under-served and comparatively overpriced.

I spend 90% of my time eye-rolling when he comes up, but there's some huckster thing he's actually been able to do that's got him here.

mh, Monday, 2 May 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link

in other news, my tesla-owning friend is about to acquire his third (!) after minor collisions absolutely wrecked the aluminum frames of the first two

presumably he was hit both times and not at fault, but having been a passenger of his in the past, I can absolutely state he drives in a way that makes it more likely people would hit you

mh, Monday, 2 May 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

A bunch of electric car companies have failed in the meantime

his third (!) after minor collisions absolutely wrecked the aluminum frames of the first two

lmao, thank god elon is here to save the planet

rob, Monday, 2 May 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link

lol, yes

mh, Monday, 2 May 2022 20:25 (one year ago) link

i don't want a thread on "waht does elon actually do?" but even knowing his decision points and his decisions would help i guess.

The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Monday, 2 May 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link

I've heard anecdotally that, like snowflakes, no two Tesla vehicles are the same... super erratic in construction and parts

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 2 May 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link

some car magazine did a feature on it - there was no consistency in the bolt patterns and they deemed some of the vehicles super unsafe. virtually everyone I know who has one has had some weird "never seen this before in another vehicle" type of issue. to Tesla's credit they do tend to fix these free of charge (though it often takes weeks to get your car back), though my brother actually was banned from buying another one because the one he bought bricked within 100 miles

I am guessing that answers the question of "what does Elon do", since the demands to forgeo QC to pump out more units than they can handle probably came directly from him and it did wind up being good for their stock price

frogbs, Monday, 2 May 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

I think a large portion of it was his brave experiment to reinvent the idea of the assembly line from first principles and change up designs on the fly
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/30/business/tesla-factory-musk.html

Established car companies master the process with assembly-line workers, and then find ways for machines to take over some of the work. Tesla did the opposite. It designed a highly automated production line populated by more than a thousand robots and other assembly machines.

In a very tangible sense, Tesla views its production line as a laboratory for untested techniques. In recent weeks, company executives concluded they could produce Model 3 underbodies with fewer spot welds than they had been using. The car is still held together by about 5,000 welds, but engineers concluded that some 300 were unnecessary and reprogrammed robots to assemble the steel underbody without them.

tl;dr from multiple articles -- Tesla started out doing things the opposite way other automakers do, by attempting to do as much possible with robots and pumping out inconsistent product instead of starting a mostly-manual labor assembly line, ensuring it produced consistent cars, and then ramping up automation and production levels

supposedly the results of this big experiment will be clear once the Austin assembly line, which takes all of the things they're learned into account, ramps up production. that's assuming that all of the bespoke hacks and workarounds in their crowded Fremont facility they did to keep things going are actually documented and can be implemented in a structured way, though?

mh, Monday, 2 May 2022 21:10 (one year ago) link

love 2 experiment with 300 fewer welds in the chassis

as long as someone else is driving it

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 09:07 (one year ago) link

I already posted this in the quitting twitter thread, but icymi: https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-03-25/black-tesla-employees-fremont-plant-racism-california-lawsuit

I guess some things don't need reinventing

rob, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 13:12 (one year ago) link

totally man

Quintuple revenue to $26.4 billion by 2028.
In his pitch deck, Mr. Musk claimed he would increase Twitter’s annual revenue to $26.4 billion by 2028, up from $5 billion last year.

Cut Twitter’s reliance on advertising to less than 50 percent of revenue.
Under Mr. Musk, advertising would fall to 45 percent of total revenue, down from around 90 percent in 2020. In 2028, advertising would generate $12 billion in revenue and subscriptions nearly $10 billion, according to the document. Other revenue would come from businesses such as data licensing.

Add $69 million in subscription revenue from Twitter Blue.
Mr. Musk plans to boost Twitter’s subscription revenue with services such as Twitter Blue, for which users pay $3 a month to customize their experience on the app. According to the pitch deck, Mr. Musk expects $69 million in revenue from Twitter Blue by 2025.

Elon Musk’s vision for twitter includes *very* aggressive growth over the next three years — we got ahold of his pitch deck to investors

here’s a breakdown of the numbers

w/ @LaurenSHirsch @PreetaTweets https://t.co/yG4McSTffx

— rat king (@MikeIsaac) May 6, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 6 May 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link

lmao wow

rob, Friday, 6 May 2022 22:44 (one year ago) link

I feel like "got high on his own supply" might be the solution to the mystery of ~why elon bought twitter~

like sure the richest man alive might pay $3 a month for twitter lol

rob, Friday, 6 May 2022 22:52 (one year ago) link

69 million users huh

towards fungal computer (harbl), Saturday, 7 May 2022 01:22 (one year ago) link

There's definitely a market for people who'd pay $10/mo to tweet without seeing people post the pig poop balls image in response but I don't know if a billion people work in the media.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 7 May 2022 01:31 (one year ago) link

damn hardcore software engineering wow

If Twitter acquisition completes, company will be super focused on hardcore software engineering, design, infosec & server hardware https://t.co/m2HseK0TXl

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 6, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 8 May 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

Deal still hasn’t closed and he’s qualifying with “If.”

Chris L, Sunday, 8 May 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

*buys grocery store* we are getting to work on selling food

towards fungal computer (harbl), Sunday, 8 May 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link

You could argue that being a very visible troll online kickstarted Tesla's success and made them a household name, which I think speaks to jimbeaux's point.

If anything, I think that taking on both the National Automobile Dealers Association and the United Launch Alliance monopolies needed a colossal troll - succeeding at it may be more of an accomplishment than actually building electric cars and reusable rockets.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 8 May 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link

super focused on hardcore food sales

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Sunday, 8 May 2022 01:04 (one year ago) link

hardcore software engineering: creating an alternative to OnlyFans

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 8 May 2022 01:42 (one year ago) link

This is one of the worst worlds

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Sunday, 8 May 2022 06:55 (one year ago) link

Earth 666

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 May 2022 03:54 (one year ago) link

Say what you will, but even after the pummeling we've given it, the toxins we've poured into the air, water and sky, the sixth mass extinction we've instigated, and the evil we do to one another, our earth is a fucking paradise, a garden of Eden, a staggering miracle of breathtaking magnitude, and a sacred vessel of life worthy of our worship unto our dying breath.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 9 May 2022 05:17 (one year ago) link

and elon musk can eat a bag of dicks

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 9 May 2022 05:18 (one year ago) link

Hear hear! Why just this morning I fondly observed the mating ritual of a couple of fruit flies.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 9 May 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

(If anyone happens to be wondering, I don’t even know if I’m being sarcastic any more. Irony is dead.)

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 9 May 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

If you can show me a more habitable planet anywhere in the universe, I'll buy it for you. I'm willing to pay up to $10,000 more than we paid for this one.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 9 May 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link

switching my focus to hardcore terraforming

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 9 May 2022 23:36 (one year ago) link

Who could've thunk this would be on the list?

BREAKING: Elon Musk said on Tuesday that he would allow former President Donald Trump back on Twitter if the Tesla CEO follows through with his plan to buy the social media company. https://t.co/JLwe00ztzE

— CBS News (@CBSNews) May 10, 2022

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

In an exclusive interview with Financial Times at Future of the Car conference on Tuesday, Musk was asked about Trump's potential return to Twitter. Rather than immediately answering directly, Musk said that he believes permanent bans on Twitter should be "extremely rare" and reserved for "bots, or spam/scam accounts."

weird, who would have guessed that elon musk's solution to moderation would be have no moderation?!

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

you know what would make the global town square better? let's write to all of those skinheads and let them know they're invited to the fall social!!!

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

"I do think that it was not correct to ban Donald Trump," Musk said. "I think that was a mistake because it alienated a large part of the country and did not ultimately result in Donald Trump not having a voice."

i'm sorry, so, if i read that correctly, if it DID ultimately result in Donald Trump not having a voice, that would have made it correct?

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

twitter's not even in the top 10 of social media platforms

That's why Musk is using other people's money to buy it

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

Right. No way he could buy Google or Facebook etc. Twitter was the only one that was affordable & available.

everything, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link

Right. No way he could buy Google or Facebook etc. Twitter was the only one that was affordable & available.

everything, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 21:56 (one year ago) link

Twitter subscriptions will either be $5 a month to not see Trump's tweets or $15 a month to see all of them.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 22:57 (one year ago) link

the thing about twitter is its not like the other social networks it has lots of famous people experts media people and so forth people make news on it musk has himself many times it has way more reach than its bottom line numbers would imply, thats why he wants it, and he prob thinks he can monetize that reach somehow, but he cant

lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 23:33 (one year ago) link

it is also interestingly the media place where hes gotten by far the most criticism

lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 23:34 (one year ago) link

can't blame a guy for wanting to be the ultimate mod but heavy is the head

Clay, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

yeah it seems like a pretty bad idea to me but what do i know i dont have buy twitter money just lying around

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link

pretty crazy that tesla stock is down 20% since he decided he was gonna do this, tbf market is down altogether but not that much

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 00:03 (one year ago) link

considering that stock is what hes putting up you gotta think that if it keeps falling the deal will stop making sense to him at some point

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 00:04 (one year ago) link

idk man the guy loves twitter and i'm pretty sure he thinks if he owns it he's king of the world

Clay, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 00:37 (one year ago) link

if you own twitter you can add likes to your posts and no one will know

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 01:12 (one year ago) link

whatever makes him happy

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 01:24 (one year ago) link

what are all these free speech, centrism etc claims supposed to amount to you can already go on there and post pretty much whatever you want

'"I think Twitter needs to be much more evenhanded. It currently has a strong left bias because it's based in San Francisco...from their perspective, it seems moderate, but they're just coming...from an environment that is very far left."' @elonmusk https://t.co/LketxgQeaq

— Nick Gillespie (@nickgillespie) May 10, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 01:27 (one year ago) link

hell reinstate trump and a handful of awful right wing account thatve been banned i guess

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 01:31 (one year ago) link

there are also places where twitter will get dragged by the courts for being a publisher of defamatory content etc. you cant just disable moderation and go on your merry way

micah, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 01:34 (one year ago) link

yeah doubt he does any sort of serious moderation changed theres just too much downside, its all for show, but i can certainly see why tesla shareholders wouldnt be psyched about the show you dont really want your media darling ceo getting super political

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 01:43 (one year ago) link

you cant just disable moderation and go on your merry way

why not? i'm thinking, here, of the millions pg places i've seen with shitty to nonexistent moderation that publish content and go along their merry way

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link

millions pg places

fingers punched to the right by a small animal for the middle word

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link

for instance if someone was posting revenge porn and twitter knew about it and did nothing or were just totally negligent they could get in some sort of trouble, which is not to say there arent tons of places online that dont break laws all the time but most dont have the profile of twitter, tbh the bigger threat if they stopped moderating is just the place going to hell and people stop using it, like if you ever check out those twitter clones for right wing psychos they are not places almost anyone would want to go

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 01:51 (one year ago) link

but seriously this guy is supposed to be selling cars and instead hes in the press with his name attached to the single most polarizing political figure in the world this is insane behavior

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 01:54 (one year ago) link

yeah its really hard to see the upside. musk/tesla already has insane brand recognition and reach and owning buying twitter won't do much from a pr perspective.

if anything twitter is currently perceived as a fairly liberal space for ideas etc so people supporting musk on twitter can be reported on as a reliable indication of reality. the minute musk takes ownership all news of twitter goings on will be noted as "musks social media network, twitter" and it will lose trustworthiness for those who follow stocks

micah, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 02:15 (one year ago) link

"I think Twitter needs to be much more evenhanded. It currently has a strong left bias because it's based in San Francisco...from their perspective, it seems moderate, but they're just coming...from an environment that is very far left."

that is preposterous, this city is not far left, but it's clear you don't want to be here so just buy it and move the company to Florida or Texas, good riddance

Dan S, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 02:20 (one year ago) link

I'm dubious of most media "don't look here, look over here" misdirections, but it's worth noting that Musk's "I'd let Trump back on Twitter" announcement occurred the same day/time as Tesla recalls 130,000 vehicles to fix touchscreen issues caused by an overheating CPUs.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 22:57 (one year ago) link

Yeah especially as up til last week he said trump wont come back to twitter, so hes changed his tune?

The guy is a fucking troll, manipulating media and stock markets to his whim. How is this allowed?!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link

i’m guessing it’s the decades of supine fealty to capital and its bosses

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 23:06 (one year ago) link

lol

Twitter deal temporarily on hold pending details supporting calculation that spam/fake accounts do indeed represent less than 5% of usershttps://t.co/Y2t0QMuuyn

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 13, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 11:44 (one year ago) link

bro its twitter cmon you knew what you were getting

lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 11:44 (one year ago) link

Is this him backing out? 🙏🏻

gyac, Friday, 13 May 2022 11:48 (one year ago) link

that or renegotiating, hes also trying to find investors rather than borrow against tesla stock

Tesla's share price has plunged about 32% over the last few weeks. Musk is now trying to raise enough money from others so he doesn't have to borrow against his sagging Tesla shares to fund a Twitter takeover. https://t.co/yq5qEvasCN

— Tim O'Brien (@TimOBrien) May 12, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 11:58 (one year ago) link

very smart guy

Tracer Hand, Friday, 13 May 2022 12:00 (one year ago) link

smartest man in the last thousand years

lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 12:00 (one year ago) link

point counterpoint

Here's the thing: There are not a ton of spam bots on this website. That's because of moderation.

But of that small amount, there are a ton pretending to be... Elon Musk.

Another sign pointing towards "I want it because it's bad for me, personally."https://t.co/TeWaGOhk9c

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) May 13, 2022

If Musk backs out of the Twitter deal ostensibly over bots they should provide insight into the bots he ran to pump Tesla’s stock.

— Matt Novak (@paleofuture) May 13, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 12:51 (one year ago) link

Told @ElonMusk's tunnel from Convention Center to Resorts World is ready, awaiting final approval. Unlike the existing tunnels, this route has one tunnel (for now)—cars will go one way or the other, waiting for the tunnel to clear before drivers can go in the opposite direction.

— Vital Vegas (@VitalVegas) May 13, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 13:05 (one year ago) link

is there a guy in a yellow suit holding one of those signs that says STOP on one side and SLOW on the other

towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 13 May 2022 13:14 (one year ago) link

lmao

rob, Friday, 13 May 2022 13:33 (one year ago) link

It’s happening

Musk is just pretending to buy Twitter to unload more Tesla shares and will find some dumb reason why he “can’t do it”

— Bucco “Buyback” Capital (@buccocapital) April 29, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 13 May 2022 13:34 (one year ago) link

thats one of my theories

lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 13:44 (one year ago) link

my many theories

lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 13:44 (one year ago) link

about the rich man i hate

lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 13:44 (one year ago) link

wonder if the bot excuse is calculated to avoid paying the $1b backout fee, claiming they gave him bunk info

lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 13:48 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk logic is literally: I'm going to buy Twitter to fix the bot problem, but I am actually going to wait for a further analysis of Twitter's bot problem.

— William Turton (@WilliamTurton) May 13, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 14:26 (one year ago) link

iirc musk specifically waived the diligence out (it's common for buyers to require a diligence out that allows them to break the deal if they find something bad during diligence), so i don't think he's trying to do that. it's also stupid because the bot thing was literally in twitter's public disclosures well before the deal was signed.

orchestrating this to sell tesla stock strikes me as unlikely too given the $1B breakup fee, that's really expensive and he hasn't sold (or was planning to sell) that much anyway... fwiw he sold way more in 2021 https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/14/elon-musks-stock-sales-could-total-18-billion-by-the-end-of-year-.html

, Friday, 13 May 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link

I have no facts or reasoning to back this up, but my heart tells me that the big rich guy is going to win, and that it’s going to involve the other rich people also winning, somehow

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 May 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link

Then some people will get pissed and it’ll be like “well there’s going to be a lawsuit over that one, you better believe that!”

Then 3-5 years from now on page A19 there will be some news on the progress of the settlement, and he’ll still be incredible rich, and will probably own google or some dumb shit as well

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 May 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link

I finally realize the basic reality which is that to rich people, settlements are the costs of doing business, and that the small cluster of legal teams who know how to negotiate those settlements are doing it not to deter or punish or redistribute the money back to normal people, but instead just to get their slice of the pie. There is no one involved that is a good person, it’s just them getting theirs and then selling it to everyone else as the law in action or whatever we say these days.

Reminds me of how I have to pay $8/month on a mandatory “concierge” service for my shitty apartment. It’s supposed to help me and lead to them doing cool stuff like repairing things. In real life, they just don’t respond, not for me and not for the other neighbors with the same mandatory concierge. We all just laugh (actually, I do - they tend to just complain about it literally every time I see them, to the point where I am now actively avoiding them because I cannot hear about this concierge debacle one more time unless I’m the one writing about it on an Elon Musk thread) because what are you going to do? It’s a total scam, everyone knows it, the concierge gets to pick up free money and they obviously are friends with whoever owns the apartments.

I’m sure after these kinds of giant transactions are over, everyone gathers around a flame and worships Baal while cutting themselves with the edges of $100 bills

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link

i know I have a tendency to be a little Pollyanna-ish about these things but I think obscenely rich people scamming each other but mostly scamming poorer people who will be forced by but to sit there and endure the scam will be like 97% of the global economy before the end of decade

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link

*forced by law

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link

i believe it will be more like 98% in some places, less so than others, unevenly distributed. but the trend of money is toward total, complete bullshit while people can't afford healthcare or housing

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link

the only one single idea that elon musk has about that is to make people indentured slaves on his shitty new mining planets

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:49 (one year ago) link

龜 what do you think he's doing then? occam's razor (which would apply if he was like carl icahn rather than a zany narcissist dweeb) is he's just trying to drive the price down, which is fair enough i guess.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 13 May 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link

that’s what we’ll have to call innovation xp

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Friday, 13 May 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

this guy makes trump look like charles foster kane

difficult listening hour, Friday, 13 May 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

龜 what do you think he's doing then? occam's razor (which would apply if he was like carl icahn rather than a zany narcissist dweeb) is he's just trying to drive the price down, which is fair enough i guess.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, May 13, 2022 12:08 PM (thirty-six minutes ago)

i think that's probably the most likely scenario, the deal got better every day for twitter from the day he signed the contract via the stock market continuing to crash. the best outcome imo would be for musk to get twitter back to the bargaining table but just as they sit down the market recovers to where it was when they signed and musk still has to buy at 54.20.

, Friday, 13 May 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

probably the calculus from musk's perspective is that musk would rather pay $1 billion in a breakup fee and dare twitter to sue him for specific performance (and all the very public pr and morale damage that would cause) rather than overpay by $5-10 billion (or whatever he think's twitter's valuation is now against this market backdrop. there is the other calculus of everybody on twitter laughing at him if he pulls out, i think he probably still smarts from the whole funding secured thing. who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

, Friday, 13 May 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

what is trump's "rosebud" because i bet it's either gross or cruel xp and sorry

The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Friday, 13 May 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link

Trump's "Rosebud" is the old mayonnaise jar he used to kill caterpillars before they could become something beautiful

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 13 May 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

jarful of eyeballs from kids he had his juvenile pa's/droogs beat unconscious.

The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Friday, 13 May 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

His asshole

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 13 May 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

Jerkoff sock he lost behind his bed in 1964.

daBobo (PBKR), Friday, 13 May 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

sorry all

difficult listening hour, Friday, 13 May 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

lol cmon man

To find out, my team will do a random sample of 100 followers of @twitter.

I invite others to repeat the same process and see what they discover …

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 14, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 May 2022 02:43 (one year ago) link

100 followers! you can tell this man is serious

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 14 May 2022 03:06 (one year ago) link

Truly wish this guy would just blast himself into pieces on one of his rockets

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 14 May 2022 12:31 (one year ago) link

The question now is, has Musk invented a set of underground tunnels for transportation, like London already had 150 years ago, or given the narrow clearance and the fire risk has he invented a set of underground tunnels for interring bodies, like Rome already had 2000 years ago.

— Warren Terra (@warren__terra) May 14, 2022

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 14 May 2022 12:58 (one year ago) link

so it turns out the testing 100 followers tweet was a tease towards violating an NDA. great job, idiot.

adam t. (abanana), Sunday, 15 May 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link

no one thinks he will pay $54.20 per share for twtr. no one.

Yerac, Sunday, 15 May 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link

Remember, this is the guy who tweeted he was going to heroically take over the rescue mission for that group stuck in the underwater cave a couple of years ago and all that came of it was a lawsuit for slandering someone who was actually useful as a pedo on twitter.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 15 May 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

no, he's just not stupid enough to overpay that much for TWTR.

Yerac, Sunday, 15 May 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

He was! He literally bought it Twitter at the top of the market. He’s trying to get out or negotiate the price down because his friends are laughing at him and he can no longer afford it.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 May 2022 20:17 (one year ago) link

it wasn't the top of the market, but it makes no sense to try to figure out his intention at the time, whether he misjudged the market or was on some type of bender. he obviously finally figured it out when his btc position went underwater and tsls and twtr were tanking. everyone has been shorting every pop on twtr and tsla for weeks.

Yerac, Sunday, 15 May 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link

Eh, “he’s not stupid enough to overpay that much” doesn’t hold water. He quite clearly was. All that’s changed is what he can afford.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 May 2022 20:24 (one year ago) link

ok, you are reading too much into that. I am speaking about the present.

Yerac, Sunday, 15 May 2022 20:25 (one year ago) link

I mean I agree that he’s not so very stupid that he thinks 54.20 is a fair price.

I’m just pointing out that he was the one who offered that price, so he must be stupid.

I guess we can conclude he’s stupid, but not very stupid.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 May 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link

i think it's a useless thing to argue if you are not doing anything with the information. anyway he has enough institutional and saudi backers now that his tsla shares aren't as much on the line. but if he had just waited a little longer he could have gotten twtr shares at $27-$30.

Yerac, Sunday, 15 May 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

If ilx is not for arguing claims on whose truthfulness you are not going to act then I don’t know what it’s for any more.

But fwiw I work at Twitter for now so I do have some skin in the game and what I think about musk does matter for what I do next.

Anyway I think my objection is the consensus in his replies that we are dealing with someone very smart because he is negotiating down the price. He offered the original price! He’s obviously an idiot!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 May 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link

lol, it's good i didn't post my original target for twtr shares if the elon deal doesn't go through. but he has until oct.

Yerac, Sunday, 15 May 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

Ha if the deal collapses it’s headed for the teens. I am under no illusions.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 May 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link

pretty clear that elon is in some way unstable but has been able to ride it to the point where he may be too big to fail

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 May 2022 23:05 (one year ago) link

read a pretty convincing twitter thread from a lawyer with expertise in such matters that twitter has good case to make him go through with the deal at the agreed upon price

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 May 2022 23:06 (one year ago) link

yeah matt levine wrote about this in his column.... seemed to come to the conclusion that while twitter legally could do that, he wasnt sure if it would be worth the hassle for them?

just sayin, Sunday, 15 May 2022 23:16 (one year ago) link

idk its looking like a good price

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 May 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link

true. his reasoning was -

On the other hand, what if he does it anyway? What if he just says “no, I’d rather not close”? What is Twitter going to do? Sue him? It is easy for me, sitting here and looking at the contract, to say that Twitter would win that lawsuit and a court would order Musk to pay the money and close the deal. I do think that![3] But actually making that happen requires filing a lawsuit and going to court and asking a judge to make him pay billions of dollars to buy a company he doesn’t want. It requires his banks to fund $13 billion of debt for a risky leveraged buyout whose whimsical buyer is no longer interested.

Contractually this is all pretty buttoned-up, and I think a Delaware court would have a ton of sympathy for Twitter and none at all for Musk, who is acting in the most transparent and smirking bad faith. But there is a lot that could still go wrong. Suing would take time, and would cause bad publicity, and would create uncertainty among employees and users and advertisers. Letting him walk, focusing on the business, and taking the $1 billion — or negotiating a slightly higher breakup fee to save face — might be a better, though terrible, outcome for Twitter.

just sayin, Sunday, 15 May 2022 23:43 (one year ago) link

"uncertainty among employees" is one way of putting it. lmao at their reaction to the news the board is suing someone who doesn't want to be their boss to make him be their boss.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 May 2022 23:47 (one year ago) link

It requires his banks to fund $13 billion of debt for a risky leveraged buyout whose whimsical buyer is no longer interested.

this part is wrong tho regardless what the bank does musk by virtue of being ~the richest man in the world~ has no argument that he cant get the money

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 May 2022 23:48 (one year ago) link

and i suspect the board might be more worried about sharholder value than employee/product uncertainty particularly in the context of a tanking market

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 May 2022 23:52 (one year ago) link

at the very least they cld prob get him to cough up another billion or two

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 May 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link

also, chalk up statistics as another thing musk is bad at. sample size is much more important than population. 100 is pretty good! sure, 200 or 300 would be better, but if they only found 1 or 2 spam accounts in the 100 then less than 5% is a good estimate.

adam t. (abanana), Monday, 16 May 2022 00:08 (one year ago) link

and i suspect the board might be more worried about sharholder value than employee/product uncertainty particularly in the context of a tanking market


totally, as they should be. But when you’re dealing with someone who appears to willing to abandon the deal you should consider what public company is left if he walks away.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not naive enough to think the board cares if a bunch of leftist engineers quit. I also think the board’s main goal, fiduciary duty’s notwithstanding, is to stop being the board. They hate their job, as does everyone who has ever been on the Twitter board.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 16 May 2022 04:17 (one year ago) link

i think it's a useless thing to argue if you are not doing anything with the information. anyway he has enough institutional and saudi backers now that his tsla shares aren't as much on the line. but if he had just waited a little longer he could have gotten twtr shares at $27-$30.

― Yerac, Sunday, May 15, 2022 4:34 PM (yesterday)

he's apparently got enough to take his margin loan down from $13B to $6-7B, but he also committed to provide $21B of his own money, which is pretty lol at the price of $54.20 - if he can negotiate a price at half of what he committed to, he saves $10B of his own cash, it's a good incentive.

it's also funny how he own goaled his tsla shares, he revealed his financing plans on 4/20 and tsla shares are down 25% since then.

, Monday, 16 May 2022 14:06 (one year ago) link

read a pretty convincing twitter thread from a lawyer with expertise in such matters that twitter has good case to make him go through with the deal at the agreed upon price

― lag∞n, Sunday, May 15, 2022 7:06 PM (yesterday)

i pointed this out on friday itt ;)

but yeah i think the funniest/most hilarious outcome would be for twitter to sue him for specific performance and force him to fund and close, and for twtr then to take elon down in a death spiral as advertisers flee and twtr defaults on its debt. (obv maybe not funny for caek, at least in the short term :( )

i don't think enough has been made about how elon is leveraging twtr to the hilt with these very public loans that all of twtr's advertisers know about and can see, i'm sure these guys are salivating at the thought of renegotiating their deals with additional leverage. he also has to find money to fund the equity comp that twtr's employees are no longer getting, i think i read a figure that it' about $900MM a year. any significant move by advertisers away from twtr and elon will have to pony up significant additional $$$ each year just to keep twtr from declaring bankruptcy (he already has to pay $$$ per year on his personal margin loan, not withstanding the additional equity commitments).

, Monday, 16 May 2022 14:16 (one year ago) link

Don’t worry about me. I’ll be working at a differently widely loathed tech company by then.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 16 May 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link

i pointed this out on friday itt ;)

― 龜, Monday, May 16, 2022 10:16 AM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

apologies for not recognizing the aforementioned opinion at said date my expertise is mostly in bird law

lag∞n, Monday, 16 May 2022 14:37 (one year ago) link

Per https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/06/technology/elon-musk-twitter-pitch-deck.html “Stock-based compensation costs are also expected to rise to just over $3 billion by 2028, from $914 million in 2022.”

They’ve announced pending stock grants will be paid as cash based on the stock purchase price, so if cash is a problem then negotiating the purchase price down helps not just with how much he needs upfront but also the carrying costs.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 16 May 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link

that deck is completely insane

, Monday, 16 May 2022 14:46 (one year ago) link

that thread i mentioned said that negotiated price reductions to avoid litigation over specific performance in other deals had been small like <%5

lag∞n, Monday, 16 May 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link

i do wonder if twtr employees will be given an option to roll over their equity comp into the private co, i think i read somewhere that musk may have been pitching privately that he'd re-ipo the company in 3-4 years a la private equity...

that deck is still certifiably insane tho, he's lucky he's taking the company private away from plaintiff's lawyers (but maybe one of his equity investors will feel so burned they'll sue him anyway if twtr crashes and burns as a private co)

, Monday, 16 May 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link

First, let me state the obvious: spam harms the experience for real people on Twitter, and therefore can harm our business. As such, we are strongly incentivized to detect and remove as much spam as we possibly can, every single day. Anyone who suggests otherwise is just wrong.

— Parag Agrawal (@paraga) May 16, 2022

insane that musk's diligence expedition is taking place in public view with the CEO but i guess that's just elon for ya

, Monday, 16 May 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link

the musk show

lag∞n, Monday, 16 May 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link

oh great now i have to explain to people that yes i understand that spam is bad

towards fungal computer (harbl), Monday, 16 May 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

i do wonder if twtr employees will be given an option to roll over their equity comp into the private co, i think i read somewhere that musk may have been pitching privately that he'd re-ipo the company in 3-4 years a la private equity...

current stated existing RSU grants will vest on the original as cash @ $54.20, and purchase agreement promises (ha!) no further comp changes for 12 months after the deal closes. after that they're going to need to do something stock refresher like (i.e. additional perf related cash grants, or something like the weird "stock" thing they do at tesla), otherwise the $-focused people will leave and get paid market rate (i.e. lots more).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 16 May 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

current stated plan*

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 16 May 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

i "get" what musk fans think they are doing when they troll twitter employees saying "you are such spoiled babies with your wellness grants and your standing desks, get ready for the real world". they're right. i am a spoiled baby. but i am not getting ready for the real world. i don't have to! there's a hiring market!

i know people here who don't hate musk, but i don't know *anyone* here who wants to work at a private company owned by someone who is known to pay badly and has opaque compensation plans after 12 months.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 16 May 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

getting cashed out at $54.20 is not bad in this market tbh.

i imagine the lure of other tech companies must be strong ("our shares have fallen 50-70% true, but if you join now your equity is going to be vesting at a relatively low price and you'll make bank when markets recover...)

headhunters must be furiously targeting anybody with 'twitter' in their linkedin

, Monday, 16 May 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link

my response to every one of your paragraphs is "yes, precisely".

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 16 May 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/j6pCLji.png

lag∞n, Monday, 16 May 2022 20:25 (one year ago) link

hey elon.... it's okay not to post

Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 May 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link

twitter shd ban him

mark s, Monday, 16 May 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link

as a bot

mark s, Monday, 16 May 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link

no no no. pleas, elon. keep tweeting.

Yerac, Monday, 16 May 2022 23:24 (one year ago) link

Agreed, nothing wrong with posting.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 07:00 (one year ago) link

column is incorrect. he should post even more https://t.co/aXDI2IsnBS

— Alex Press (@alexnpress) May 16, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 07:21 (one year ago) link

always clapemoji be clapemoji posting clapemoji

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 07:38 (one year ago) link

20% fake/spam accounts, while 4 times what Twitter claims, could be *much* higher.

My offer was based on Twitter’s SEC filings being accurate.

Yesterday, Twitter’s CEO publicly refused to show proof of <5%.

This deal cannot move forward until he does.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 17, 2022

unfortunately, the legal agreement he said does not provide that for that - any misrepresentation in twitter's public filings must rise to the level of a material adverse effect, and Delaware courts have traditionally found that to be a *very* high standard (sort of the equivalent of, idk, a nuke going off). if twitter litigates this, the courts will not be sympathetic to elon!

, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 14:00 (one year ago) link

lmao dis guy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 14:05 (one year ago) link

Have we though about DMing all the Twitter accounts with a quick “are you real?”

Would only take a couple days tops

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link

are you even a person bro

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link

hey now ho now inactive/abandoned accounts would be bigger numbers still

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/0001418091/000119312522152250/d283119dprem14a.htm

Still later on April 25, 2022, following the meeting of the Twitter Board, the applicable parties executed the merger agreement and the limited guarantee and Parent delivered to Twitter fully executed revised versions of the debt commitment letter, margin loan commitment letter and equity commitment letter. Promptly following execution of the merger agreement, Twitter and Mr. Musk publicly announced the merger agreement and the merger.

when elon filed his commitment papers they were not countersigned by elon. now presumably they are - he is legally obligated to fund!

also classic lawyer statement:

Elon Musk is an active user of the Twitter platform.

, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 14:24 (one year ago) link

It is completely normal to conduct due diligence for $xB deal through social media.

Why are you even caring at this point, this guy never intended to buy Twitter in the first place. It would be news if he actually goes through with it.

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

Elon's squirming for an exit strategy... let's watch him squirm

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link

eh, let's try not to. watching elon musk do anything is like watching someone take a shit on the sidewalk. you get further from the light and he likes it. (same with piers morgan.)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link

Hello @SECGov, anyone home?

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 17, 2022

as far as trolling go, this isn't quite doing it for me - too obvious

, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 01:17 (one year ago) link

i want to be a judge chancellor on the to be on the delaware court of chancery

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 02:24 (one year ago) link

oops sorry for typos

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 02:24 (one year ago) link

do you need to know how to write a sentence to work there? also how long do you need to live in delaware before being appointed

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 02:26 (one year ago) link

its cool just come in on monday

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 02:27 (one year ago) link

they shouldn't be required to live in delaware, none of the corporations do lol

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 02:28 (one year ago) link

also delaware sucks iirc???

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 02:29 (one year ago) link

certainly no one should be required to live in delaware

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 02:30 (one year ago) link

do you need to know how to write a sentence to work there?

let's face it, you don't really need to know how to write a sentence to work anywhere. i'm sure there are certain presidential memos that are like "rrrigggim slaggim!"

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 04:38 (one year ago) link

and then the aide is like "hmm...let's arrange a briefing on pasta sauce options" as the president licks their lips

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 04:39 (one year ago) link

*aide prints the relevant ilx poll thread*

Michael Flatley's (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 05:56 (one year ago) link

watching elon musk do anything is like watching someone take a shit on the sidewalk

perfect

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 06:25 (one year ago) link

I pity the lawyer that has to explain how a poop emoji constitutes a disparaging remark and a violation of the acquisition deal in this context. Oh wait, that's me. pic.twitter.com/PiyQlUb6mW

— Alejandra Caraballo 🏳️‍⚧️🇵🇷 (@Esqueer_) May 16, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 09:33 (one year ago) link

also delaware sucks iirc???


New Castle is cute!

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 11:29 (one year ago) link

The beaches are lovely

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 11:50 (one year ago) link

No Rehoboth fans?

Chris L, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 11:50 (one year ago) link

jinx

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 11:53 (one year ago) link

Tax free shopping. Dogfish Head. Thrasher’s French Fries. Scrapple. The screen door factory.

Jeff, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 12:13 (one year ago) link

We are Delaware of the charms of the First State.

Blackhawk Down 2: Electric Boogaloo (PBKR), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 12:39 (one year ago) link

Briefly the home of Bob Marley.

peace, man, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 12:42 (one year ago) link

i am sorry i insulted delaware. i will try to do better in the future.

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 12:44 (one year ago) link

jupiter records is a great lil record shop

, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 12:51 (one year ago) link

i dont know anything about that state barely even delaware it is

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 13:03 (one year ago) link

Delaware's worth was debated on this important thread

Delaware vs. Rhode Island

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link

Look at me, talking about Delaware 16 years ago in that thread. Anyway, back to your musking.

Jeff, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link

While musking is no longer mandated, musking is still recommended.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link

this shouldn’t be read as indictment of the entire state but I spent the weeks between Thanksgiving and Christmas in Wilmington a few years ago and would not recommend

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link

"Was really looking forward to this deal, but hey the SEC srsly dropped the ball, anyway check out this hydrogen powered rideshare unicycle right over here!"

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link

It would be great if this fuckup finally destroyed his cult, but it won't.

adam t. (abanana), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link

i am sorry i insulted delaware. i will try to do better in the future.

lol. A+. very sly ambiguity there.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

he's essentially the next Trump, or maybe he has been for a while, seems obvious at this point that his whole thing is doing/saying dumb shit & failing to deliver on anything but never experiencing any consequences as a result. ahhh, to be a rich shitposter

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:18 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/rn3fxcu.png

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link

really cant imagine wanting to go from a universally lauded super rich celebrity to a loathed by half the people politicized super rich celebrity

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link

guess he thinks his magic touch with business/celebrity media will carry over to stuff people actually care about good luck buddy

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link

thank goodness he's disqualified for the presidency by virtue of his birthplace

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link

nonzero chance that he runs anyway and everyone on the right, including all the Trump-picked judges, just ignore that rule entirely

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

doing what trump did isnt easy i doubt elon has the ability to serve the red meat but it is nice to not really have to worry about it

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

NEW: Elon Musk says he’ll vote for Republicans this year because “the Democratic Party is overly controlled by the unions and…class-action lawyers.”

Musk is a notorious union-buster & was hit with a class-action lawsuit from 1k Black workers who alleged rampant racism at Tesla. pic.twitter.com/2SEUBTgDXm

— More Perfect Union (@MorePerfectUS) May 18, 2022

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

hahaha this guy is so shook. fuckin guy

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link

you crying about unions now you big kingpin? boo hoo hoo

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link

guy only likes playing monopoly if he starts with more money than everybody else otherwise he cries about it

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

"unions are just another form of monopoly" lol

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

If only the Democratic Party were controlled by unions.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

i should be allowed to throw this guy in the ocean its fair

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

Bringing up reactionary greatest hits with 'class-action lawyers' - he's going to start making tort reform memes.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

Put him in a bag first and let people whack it with sticks.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/03/cars/tesla-buyer-politics/index.html

unfortunate that Tesla buyer demographics aren't worse for him going down this path

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

Tesla owners are more Republican than you'd think

CNN does not know what i think clearly

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:01 (one year ago) link

though my neighbors down the street have a tesla which they build a special parking spot for and they love kamala harris a lot. so two strikes against them i guess.

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

afaict tesla owners are all nimbys regardless of party affiliation

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

^ seems about right

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link

saw someone on twitter theorizing his rightward trend was to attract conservative car buyers since hed already burned through dem environmental types via building the worlds shittiest cars, dont think its true but its a cute theory

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

xpost

My brother is a Tesla owner and literally helps run a YIMBY group. He was an early adopter tho, I haven’t checked with him lately for buyer’s remorse.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

Tesla does seem to have eclipsed the BMW as the car of choice for douchebags.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

will be interesting to see how tesla holds up with one million different electric cars about to hit the market

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link

(My stepsister is a complete Elon stan. She’s also a recovering environmental scientist like myself and she has recently self-diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome. At this point I think she’s just trying to keep her head above water, she was delivering for Amazon and got laid off so can’t comment on her Y/NIMBY status. If any of this seems like it’s violating her confidence someone please delete it, I don’t think there’s any crossover between the audience here and her social circle but just in case.)

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link

Xxp

Thanks jimbeaux I’ll relay your regards to my bro.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

that guy I know who keeps wrecking his teslas (lol) had to wait for a new tesla and his interim used car he bought? a bmw

he has absolutely bizarre choices in motor vehicles, though. he previously went (iirc) from one of the early hyundai hybrids to a hummer to a chevy volt

mh, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

(Final follow-up on my fam Tesla history: to be clear the stepsister’s stepdad is a famous basketball coach, that’s the only way she could afford a Tesla.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

Probably putting her solidly on the NIMBY squad.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

which coach

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link

YIMBYs have their own set of problems. that's why i'm an OKIMBY.

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link

I’m a Bothsidesimby

(I think I’ve done enough to ID my stepsister already sorry.)

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

im a YIMBYBAKLL (yes in my backyard but also kill landlords)

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:37 (one year ago) link

OTMIMBY

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:37 (one year ago) link

(Ok so I doubt anyone here has followed the plot but at one point here I did basically come out with the fact that Nancy Mace, GOP Trump gadfly, is like my 3rd cousin too. My family is a piece of work.)

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

KIMBY is Elon's brother, right?

peace, man, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

the Tesla owners at my workplace have to be some of the most arrogant “I’m smarter than you” type asshats I’ve ever met in my lifetime.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

saw someone on twitter theorizing his rightward trend was to attract conservative car buyers since hed already burned through dem environmental types via building the worlds shittiest cars, dont think its true but its a cute theory


loool yeah it’s prob not true but damned if a few of us were drunkenly musing about this last weekend. ie if a loathsome dipshit like trump can get elected president by ‘owning the libs’ then Elon can surely get the erstwhile Limbaugh listener who owns every Rally’s in the tri-county area to buy his dumb car in order to own the libs. Musk almost certainly is not the whiz kid engineer that the msm spent the last decade+ assuring us he was, but even he can clock that cultural grievances can be a huge drivers in consumer choice. he’s an updated, v annoying v online version of Barnum.

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link

xxp

Not to say that all Tesla drivers are douchebags, viborg, just that a plurality of douchebags are Tesla drivers.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link

yeah the flaw in the plan is that youre alienating other prospective buyers, but who knows elon is always doing weird short term plays, makes me wonder whats really going on over at tesla, i have speculated about major account fraud itt, just a lot of weird shit idk, maybe its worth it to him for whatever reason to boost teslas sales short term by owning the libs

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

One trend I can definitely do without is right wingers calling Musk "the country's most successful African-American."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

its such a lame joke but on the other hand at least they got a new joke

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link

he needs to emphasize how environmentally destructive the Tesla is, or maybe make them artificially even more so. like add a fake tailpipe that emits a stench and benzene or something.

The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

All Teslas now come standard with truck nuts and exhaust pipe that emits fart noises whenever a Bernie sticker is picked up within twenty yards.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

self drives to nearest steak house for a huge fucking rare rib eye some kick ass bacon and a nice stiff burbon

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 19:32 (one year ago) link

at work we have a Tesla guy and he makes it the core of his entire personality. he wears nothing but Tesla polos, set his desktop & phone backgrounds to photos of his car, once sent the department a "Tesla FAQ" including lines like "Q: Can I drive it? A: No! Q: Can you take me for a ride? A: Sure!!"

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 19:43 (one year ago) link

fuckin bleak

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

Xxpost. The Tesla's horn actually can be set to emit fart noises.

everything, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:00 (one year ago) link

There is a whole fart app. Lots of different fart noises which you can direct outside or to one or several of the internal speakers.

everything, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

I’m going to assume that’s actually the one Innovation that Musk personally shepherded from idea to implementation

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

"Not juicy enough, too dry. Back to work."

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

I've told this story in here before but there's a feature where, if the car detects its being broken into, it'll lock all the doors and play Trans-Siberian Orchestra at max volume. I know this because it erroneously went off on my brother's car with his wife and 1 year old inside. She thought it was loud enough to potentially cause hearing damage. I'm guessing that is another one of Elon's ideas that nobody could say no to.

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:17 (one year ago) link

and ppl really want to question this man’s genious

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

i am pretty sure it's illegal to have a horn that is permanently modified to make non-horn sounds and i understand the app is not that, but it should also be illegal to have the option to do it temporarily because we cannot trust tesla owners to understand that horns are safety devices and that it is hazardous to confuse other drivers on the road with farts

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:28 (one year ago) link

to be safe teslas should just brick themselves

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link

well, they do, but it's on highways in the travel lane which is not safe

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link

what happens when lame internet humor from 15 years ago gets weaponized by the world's richest man

, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:35 (one year ago) link

to be fair, it used to be legal (maybe?) to install flamethrowers in cars as anti-theft devices in south africa

, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

I’m sure Elon would want to bring back some other things that used to be legal in South Africa, too

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link

I'm surprised Teslas don't allow you to force drop old Something Awful memes to the screens of other Teslas.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:52 (one year ago) link

Jimbeaux, no worries. It was just the timing really.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link

This article assumes that he's actually not trying to weasel out of the deal, but is just doing some hardball negotiations:

https://www.grid.news/story/technology/2022/05/13/why-elon-musk-cant-just-walk-away-from-the-twitter-deal/

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link

at work we have a Tesla guy and he makes it the core of his entire personality. he wears nothing but Tesla polos, set his desktop & phone backgrounds to photos of his car, once sent the department a "Tesla FAQ" including lines like "Q: Can I drive it? A: No! Q: Can you take me for a ride? A: Sure!!"

― frogbs, Wednesday, May 18, 2022 3:43 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

*brushes up resume*

Hillary Queenton (PBKR), Thursday, 19 May 2022 00:08 (one year ago) link

that faq thing is blowing my mind

mh, Thursday, 19 May 2022 00:17 (one year ago) link

same here tbh.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Thursday, 19 May 2022 01:07 (one year ago) link

Wow.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 19 May 2022 01:26 (one year ago) link

At a Twitter all-hands right now, execs told employees that they are not open to renegotiating the purchase price with Elon Musk.

I’m told that champagne was popped in the New York office.

— Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton) May 19, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

yeah but they're always drinking heavily in that office

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

Meanwhile in Slack, one employee changed their screen name to “The Algorithm” and is encouraging everyone to drink whenever an executive says “fiduciary”

— Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton) May 19, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

It’s true

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

It was a good all hands I’m told

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

no elon just vibes

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

"Q: Can I drive it? A: No! Q: Can you take me for a ride? A: Sure!!"

I'm fucking dying

jmm, Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

I know "The Algorithm" - I think he did that a while ago though…

carson dial, Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

many are taking the above tweets to mean the deal is off but not everyone

they’re all twitter shareholders and they’re getting (maybe!) a windfall from the world’s richest man who’s been taunting them for weeks, it’s gotta feel like catharsis

— farhad manjoo (@fmanjoo) May 19, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

fight for what

Champagne was popped because they want the deal to go through or because they think he'll back out?

— Jason Schreier (@jasonschreier) May 19, 2022

i think it’s a ‘we are not going down without a fight’ type of thing

— Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton) May 19, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

if anyone has any insight but would prefer not to post here feel free to dm me on twitter dont com

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

haha that's insider trading no thank u!

it's all in those tweets though. and in any case, leadership/the board are not going to share anything non-public with rank-and-file employees (they can't without out also making it public).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

im not going to buy any stock i want to own the secrets

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

haha yes

Elon's campaign to publicly troll and preemptively alienate the entire workforce of the company he's trying to buy was a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him. https://t.co/gugU6rV8cN

— Will Oremus (@WillOremus) May 19, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

(i mean we're still fucked, dont get me wrong)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

fight for what

presumably the original terms of the deal, which elon is now claiming is void because he was relying on what he says is incorrect information supplied by twitter and twitter claims is correct

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link

i think there's a "we want whatever he doesn't want" element to it, and clearly he doesn't want to pay 54.20.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

elon paying way above market for a company where all the employees hate him would be something

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

ofc he doesn't want to pay $54.20. but he can still back out entirely by paying the indemnification, which I heard was $1bn.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

apparently they can make him go through with the deal if they want we talked about it upthread

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 May 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

Lmao aimless thank you as ever for your insight.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 19 May 2022 18:01 (one year ago) link

how would you answer the q: "fight for what?"

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 19 May 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link

he's so fucking stupid

Unless it is stopped, the woke mind virus will destroy civilization and humanity will never reached Mars

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 19, 2022

frogbs, Thursday, 19 May 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

he's really gunning for best poster right now. twitter should ban him for the lulz

rob, Thursday, 19 May 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

Yang and Amash showing up in replies to his "we need a moderate party" tweet like "yes sir, reporting for duty sir"...is there a word for when you're both a con artist and a mark?

rob, Thursday, 19 May 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link

pathetic thing about this country is a "moderate" party would probably be left of where the Dems currently stand

frogbs, Thursday, 19 May 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

Yang and Amash showing up in replies to his "we need a moderate party" tweet like "yes sir, reporting for duty sir"...is there a word for when you're both a con artist and a mark?

― rob

smark

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 19 May 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

twitter abhors a main character vacuum and once trump got the boot it was inevitable someone would take his place as the ultimate main character

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 19 May 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

otm but what grates is he's doing it so deliberately. trump wouldn't have a clue what "the main character on twitter" means to his credit

I like "smark" lol

rob, Thursday, 19 May 2022 20:00 (one year ago) link

I will never forgive the media for trying to make this guy look like some kind of brilliant visionary like Thomas Edison

frogbs, Thursday, 19 May 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

btw if you were wondering what the "woke mind virus" is, it's unions and the people who sue Elon Musk for being a gigantic racist:

NEW: Elon Musk says he’ll vote for Republicans this year because “the Democratic Party is overly controlled by the unions and…class-action lawyers.”

Musk is a notorious union-buster & was hit with a class-action lawsuit from 1k Black workers who alleged rampant racism at Tesla. pic.twitter.com/2SEUBTgDXm

— More Perfect Union (@MorePerfectUS) May 18, 2022

rob, Thursday, 19 May 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

is there a home rapid test for the woke mind virus? i dont want to needlessly expose anyone and be the reason we dont get to mars

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 19 May 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

fortunately, there is. all true conservative patriots are encouraged to take the test to ensure that they 100% non-woke mind virus. it involves ball tanning

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 19 May 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

I will never forgive the media for trying to make this guy look like some kind of brilliant visionary like Thomas Edison

― frogbs, Thursday, May 19, 2022 3:01 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

thomas edison was a far more ruthless operator than even musk! but at least "his" inventions were useful

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 19 May 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link

You say that but I’ve never heard an incandescent lightbulb fart

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Thursday, 19 May 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

Twitter execs reassured workers in a meeting today the sale to Elon Musk is going through unchanged -- there are provisions in the contract that can be enforced to ensure this outcome. Immediately after, Musk memes about Twitter being 'all bots'https://t.co/hwsmDett9o

— Kali Hays (@HaysKali) May 19, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 May 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link

Just received verbal govt approval for The Boring Company to build an underground NY-Phil-Balt-DC Hyperloop. NY-DC in 29 mins.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 20, 2017

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 May 2022 21:10 (one year ago) link

"verbal govt approval" = he was jabbering about it to a member of Congress at a coke orgy and the guy said "sure, sure, sounds awesome, keep me posted"

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 19 May 2022 21:21 (one year ago) link

And there's nothing those states & DC can do about it

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 19 May 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link

A SpaceX flight attendant said Elon Musk exposed himself and propositioned her for sex, documents show. The company paid $250,000 for her silence. https://t.co/5plOiNJOW5 via @businessinsider

— Nicholas Carlson (@nichcarlson) May 19, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 19 May 2022 22:27 (one year ago) link

gee now we know what this was about

In the past I voted Democrat, because they were (mostly) the kindness party.

But they have become the party of division & hate, so I can no longer support them and will vote Republican.

Now, watch their dirty tricks campaign against me unfold … 🍿

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 18, 2022

frogbs, Thursday, 19 May 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link

After Insider contacted Musk for comment, he emailed to ask for more time to respond and said there is "a lot more to this story."

"If I were inclined to engage in sexual harassment, this is unlikely to be the first time in my entire 30-year career that it comes to light," he wrote, calling the story is a "politically motivated hit piece."

, Thursday, 19 May 2022 22:32 (one year ago) link

"please don't dig any further into my 30-year career," added musk

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 19 May 2022 22:33 (one year ago) link

this guy is gonna make this all so much worse isn't he

frogbs, Thursday, 19 May 2022 22:38 (one year ago) link

For those interested, we reached out to the principals for comment regarding this story at ~9 a.m. eastern yesterday (Wednesday May 18).

— John Cook (@johnjcook) May 19, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 May 2022 22:52 (one year ago) link

FYI - Twitter is currently at $36 per share, if he’s forced to pay 150% of its value for being a giant dumbass it would be the first time he actually made me laugh

frogbs, Thursday, 19 May 2022 23:33 (one year ago) link

I laughed when Azealia Banks called him Apartheid Clyde.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 19 May 2022 23:35 (one year ago) link

"politically motivated hit piece"

But you're not a politician... are you??

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 20 May 2022 00:48 (one year ago) link

“But actually” and “your” feel very trumpy.

To be clear, I’m spending <5% (but actually) of my time on the Twitter acquisition. It ain’t rocket science!

Yesterday was Giga Texas, today is Starbase. Tesla is on my mind 24/7.

So may seem like below, but not true. pic.twitter.com/CXfWiLD2f8

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 19, 2022



The attacks against me should be viewed through a political lens – this is their standard (despicable) playbook – but nothing will deter me from fighting for a good future and your right to free speech

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 20, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 20 May 2022 05:59 (one year ago) link

what a snake

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 12:04 (one year ago) link

musk is a derivative poster, simple as that

, Friday, 20 May 2022 12:24 (one year ago) link

Elonald Skump

nashwan, Friday, 20 May 2022 12:47 (one year ago) link

what a hero!

Tracer Hand, Friday, 20 May 2022 13:15 (one year ago) link

i need an Elon
I'm holding out for an Elon til the end of the night

mookie wilson shaggin balls (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 May 2022 13:29 (one year ago) link

oh you've been sexually harassed by me? name 5 fucked up things about my dick pic.twitter.com/Utptrh88pF

— Crowsa Luxemburg (@quendergeer) May 20, 2022

nashwan, Friday, 20 May 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link

rotting conjoined twin corpse on groin?

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 20 May 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link

I was trying to come up with something but I don't think I can top that

Ste, Friday, 20 May 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link

I see this and…

And there it is: Musk can now be sued for defamation by the woman he has just publicly called a liar—after paying her to not sue him. It would appear he has broken his non-disparagement agreement.

I think this story is going to get very, very interesting over the next few weeks. pic.twitter.com/PQkKse4P49

— Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) May 20, 2022



Really? Why would you ever sue if you were this woman? The absolute hell her life would be, for what gain? Especially after he won this case.

gyac, Friday, 20 May 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link

i was JUST wondering if the agreement had a clause like that but does seth abramson know?

towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 20 May 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link

No idea, I assumed he was referring to the nda, am guessing Musk is also prohibited from discussing her as she is him? But I know nearly nothing about how they work.

gyac, Friday, 20 May 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

if she does choose to sue she shd definitely avoid hiring lin wood, "attorney and conspiracy theorist": unsworth deciding on wood to represent him was a bad move

mark s, Friday, 20 May 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link

seth abramson is a legendary idiot so may very well be wrong abt this but i have seen others saying musk has broken the terms of the nda

mark s, Friday, 20 May 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

I would imagine any court would invalidate an NDA based on the party who asked for it publicly calling the other party a liar?

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 20 May 2022 16:05 (one year ago) link

Even if Musk did break the NDA it would be suicidal for the victim to press forward here so it seems highly irrelevant. Just a grifter trying to keep his tweets in the trending box.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 20 May 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link

feel like we’re about to see an avalanche of “no way ol Lonnie Musk wriggles his way out of this one” takes

anyway, heaven help that port walk an when her name gets out

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Friday, 20 May 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link

*help that poor woman

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Friday, 20 May 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

again haven't looked into it but he's talking about non-disparagement not NDA (non-disclosure)

towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 20 May 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link

if there is one she might not need to sue, sometimes they include what the damages would be in the event of a breach. maybe seth abramson can fill us in since he is allegedly a lawyer but he doesn't appear to understand that this is different from suing for defamation. which would be independent of there being a pre-existing non-disparagement clause.

towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 20 May 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link

she was a Space X flight attendant, so maybe signed an NDA on day 1? Like "Elon's probably gonna show you his little rocket at some point, so please sign right here!"

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 20 May 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

tesla down another 10% today

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 20 May 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

In 2015 I decided on a whim to check out Tesla's battery swap station that was earning the company 9 figures in California ZEV credits, and found it wasn't real. Instead Tesla was using diesel generators to charge cars. Here's how this changed my life 🧵

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) May 20, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

"And that's okay"

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 20 May 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link

i have been wondering about this. seems to mean tesla is not reporting safety issues to NHTSA, which is very legal and very cool.

A year later I found another big cockroach: Tesla was hiding defects by requiring customers sign NDAs in exchange for free repairs. This cut off the auto safety regulator's only independent source of information about defects. This led to a couple of important lessons...

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) May 20, 2022

towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 20 May 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link

yeah teslas habitual rule breakers but the fines are such mickey mouse shit that they dont care, guys seems to be saying that musk is more vulnerable personally

hes been covering tesla for years from the business/tech perspective but is now for the first time at least since ive been following him saying that musks got plenty of skeletons in his closet that shouldnt be too hard to expose, and that hes particularly vulnerable since none of his companies are actually profitable, his success is based on a cult of personality, its a celebrity story, jeff bezos for instance is a lot more protected since amazons success is based on actually making a ton of money

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

not sure they've had to pay any fines for it though, will investigate later

towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 20 May 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

yeah not sure about for that issue, they have been fined a bunch for various things at a rate much higher than a typical car company iirc

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/mgOXvltU28

— helen (@helen) May 20, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 May 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link

I quite literally cannot believe how many people think this guy is some sort of genius. It’s almost more disturbing than the Trump cult.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, 20 May 2022 22:52 (one year ago) link

I've gone through the same 4 stages with him that I did with Trump

1) This guy seems like kind of a clown, but he's had a lot of success so I guess he knows what he's doing
2) Alright, getting pretty weird now, but I am pretty sure he's just trolling/playing the media
3) No, he really is that much of a dipshit
4) He sucks at everything, what kind of fucking country lets this asshole be successful

frogbs, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link

crazy thing about musk is he has absolutely no personal charisma its just the idea of a visionary billionaire engineer that horrible nerds like

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:04 (one year ago) link

Like Steve Jobs, are there any charities or philanthropic causes that Musk contributes to?

Jobs believe his greatest gift to the world were the products that you bought from him at full price

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link

IDK, maybe he supports the indigent Afrikaners back home

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:10 (one year ago) link

crazy thing about musk is he has absolutely no personal charisma its just the idea of a visionary billionaire engineer that horrible nerds like

yea this is a big deal and why I don't think he's gonna have much success trying to walk in Trump's footsteps. he appears kind of witty on Twitter because he's just ripping off memes he saw and stealing replies he thinks are funny. as a speaker he's fucking awful. every time I hear him talk my first thought is "has he not slept in the last 48 hours?"

frogbs, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:12 (one year ago) link

all these guys think they can be trump but none of them ever had a hit tv show is how i break it down

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link

I don't think that bar is going to matter much longer. More dopes like Trump are coming.

PBKR, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:21 (one year ago) link

im saying trump has a talent its not that easy

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link

I don't think that bar is going to matter much longer.

PBKR, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

public attention is limited and highly sought after resource

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:27 (one year ago) link

you can't really teach charm

Clay, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link

afaics, Musk is only engaged with politics insofar as he can use it to amplify his wealth and power. I greatly doubt he will run for office, because, like Trump, he would have no interest any position but the top job and he's barred from it.

He does like having a big fan club of adulators, so he spends a lot of time feeding and grooming them. Plus, they come in handy for all sorts of things that increase his influence. They are the sole reason why he got to host SNL, f'rinstance.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 20 May 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link

I agree Trump has some animal cunning/sociopathic skill. I'm just not sure we aren't going to see more of that in politics.

PBKR, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:30 (one year ago) link

musk has been really successful from a pr perspective, getting the media to tell the story he wants, but hes never had to actually perform, and now hes contradicting the story he told by getting political fucking up the twitter deal and so forth, and now the bad news is starting

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link

Trump has been really successful from a pr perspective, getting the media to tell the story he wants, but hes never had to actually perform, and now hes contradicting the story he told by getting political fucking up his casinos and so forth, and now the bad news is starting

PBKR, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link

lol nah man trumps been happily on screen every chance he can get for 40 years see aforementioned #1 tv show

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:39 (one year ago) link

I am in no way saying Musk = Trump, I'm must saying don't dismiss him from whatever because he's not actually successful, an obvious moron, etc. etc. etc. He has resources (more than Trump). Like Trump he just keeps his name in the media on end and appeals to a certain demographic.

PBKR, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link

must = just

PBKR, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link

not really sure what were talking about now but i stand by my statement that he has no personal charisma, and furthermore hes currently in a tough spot

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:54 (one year ago) link

Yeah the obsession w/ the media is a big similarity, iirc there was a story a couple years ago detailing just how hard he works at keeping any negative stories out of the press. Like he would personally hound and threaten reporters who had anything negative to say about him or Tesla, nearly everyone who works for him claimed they have to sign crazy NDAs, etc.

frogbs, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:55 (one year ago) link

Anyway he’s now trying to crowdsource a legal team through Twitter which I am guessing means a bunch more stories are about to drop

frogbs, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:56 (one year ago) link

That would be great.

PBKR, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:03 (one year ago) link

thing about musks media success is basically him and the business media were made for each other theres nothing they love more than the idea that enterprise will save the world, that was his sweet spot, he fucked up when he went full celebrity cause the celebrity media will eventually turn on you thats part of their practice, now this political shift is just very dicey, i mean unless he just wants to become some shitty right wing figure, but its not going to help with selling cars, theres a reason ceos usually dont do shit like this, theyre not trying to alienate half their customers

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:06 (one year ago) link

Tesla is building a hardcore litigation department where we directly initiate & execute lawsuits. The team will report directly to me.

Please send 3 to 5 bullet points describing evidence of exceptional ability.

just✧✧✧@te✧✧✧.c✧✧

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 20, 2022

towards fungal computer (harbl), Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:07 (one year ago) link

weird dude clearly pretty unstable

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:07 (one year ago) link

he doesn't know how anything works and is tired of lawyers telling him things are illegal

towards fungal computer (harbl), Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:08 (one year ago) link

wtf is he doing pretty sure he already has lawyers does he think someones going to read that and be all oh i better not fuck with him hes putting together a hardcore litigation team

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:08 (one year ago) link

he is planning to sue all of us for this thread

towards fungal computer (harbl), Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link

i welcome his cleansing lawsuit

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

damn elon is making litigation hardcore now? this is getting wild but what a visionary

Clay, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:17 (one year ago) link

i've been watching succession season 3 this week and i can't help but think of kendall. *kendall gets owned* kendall: ok. ok, let's play offense. we need to dominate the conversation space, we're not even talking.

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:17 (one year ago) link

lmao kendall is so lame, incredible portrayal of a weird useless rich kid

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:19 (one year ago) link

This is an On Cinema bit

frogbs, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

read a piece lil while ago about the resonance between succession and on cinema

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link

which made sense to me as those are two of the only shows i watch so im always like yeah im getting [only other show i watch] vibes from this

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:26 (one year ago) link

read a piece lil while ago about the resonance between succession and on cinema

is this the piece? https://www.polygon.com/22832955/succession-and-on-cinema-media

for some reason, i am a regular polygon checker, i'm not sure how i missed that

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

i dont remember but i cant imagine theres more than one of them

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:30 (one year ago) link

With subscriptions funded by the HEI Network, and supported by his loving wife Toni, Heidecker unveiled one tremendous plan after another — there were Hei Points, which Heidecker described as “the U.S. dollar 2.0”; Hei-lot Season, in which his various friends make pilots to run on the network; and perhaps most grandiose of all, the Hei Ranch, which at the moment is 25 acres of sand but will, after a 10-year plan, be a fully functioning society.

even just reading on cinema summaries is almost as good as the real thing. if only elon could be more like this, rather than like kendall

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:31 (one year ago) link

you both should watch more shows

Dan S, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:34 (one year ago) link

Somebody's on another meth binge.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:34 (one year ago) link

i dont like shows theres too many shows too many episodes theyre mostly pretty bad too i cant be involved in all that

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:37 (one year ago) link

lol

Dan S, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link

shows, episodes, things of that nature

mookieproof, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:41 (one year ago) link

you both should watch more shows

maybe you should watch less shows, ayoo

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link

FEWER

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link

:)

Dan S, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:58 (one year ago) link

i take the stage. my red penis tip sticks out of my waistband; little bit of piss coming out. "I will end all politics-based attacks of me."

— wint (@dril) May 21, 2022

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 May 2022 05:48 (one year ago) link

weird dude clearly pretty unstable

kicking in chairs and knocking down tables

Yul Brynner film festival on Channel 48... (sic), Saturday, 21 May 2022 07:42 (one year ago) link

How hardcore are you, bro?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 21 May 2022 13:18 (one year ago) link

kind of tired of people thinking individual elon statements mean something as if they’re not just part of him doing an ongoing bit

mh, Saturday, 21 May 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link

Tesla stock down another 8% today, lol

frogbs, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link

~$25 shy of where it was a year ago

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link

which is to say its down almost 50% since november

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 20:07 (one year ago) link

is he still the wealthiest man in the world?

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 21:19 (one year ago) link

not that he ever *really* was

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 21:19 (one year ago) link

just googled it and seems like yes

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 21:32 (one year ago) link

what none of you know is that there is this one really rich guy who has been waiting for his moment

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link

its me i sold magic beans to jeff bezos

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 21:36 (one year ago) link

...but who is the wealthiest man in the metaverse ?

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link

I'm talkin with the man in the meta
I'm asking him to change his ways

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 22:38 (one year ago) link

lol

Elon Musk on remote work

May 31, 2022 pic.twitter.com/gTw1Bdh18h

— Internal Tech Emails (@TechEmails) June 1, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 13:57 (one year ago) link

When was the last time Tesla shipped a great new product?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 14:11 (one year ago) link

I mean, I like Tesla! But -- they came up with a thing a while ago, they've been doing the thing. I guess maybe there's going to be a truck but it keeps getting delayed?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 14:12 (one year ago) link

theres not going to be a truck, at least not that "cyber" truck

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link

wonder if tesla had an intervention to convince him no one wants his weird childs drawing truck

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link

Must make exciting products to cover my overpay

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link

Hey, i liked cyber truk

But only because it didn’t look like a vehicle.

In retrospect that was one of my least popular opinions, haha

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link

more of a folk art vibe

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link

i liked it because it looks like something you would drive in a dystopia

rob, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link

was certain this bump would be about this absolute asshole shitting on marginalized people again

pic.twitter.com/G83vCrHHJf

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 31, 2022

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 14:25 (one year ago) link

I don't even get what that means

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 14:27 (one year ago) link

(yes, there is an argument about the fake facade of big corporations changing their social media avatars for one month but otherwise not giving a shit about marginalized people, but this fuckin' guy has not earned my belief that this is what he's trying to say with this shitposting)

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 14:28 (one year ago) link

xp Is it an angry white man about to be pummelled by a sandstorm of pride-endorsing corporations, or is the sandstorm sweeping away the pride-endorsing corporations?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 14:28 (one year ago) link

and why is there only half a white man?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 14:28 (one year ago) link

it's pretty clear at this point that shitting on marginalized people is this asshole's main deal

rob, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

idk id say its more of a side hustle

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 14:37 (one year ago) link

need to check where that friend of mine who was working at tesla (thought he still was?!) is at, because as far as I know, he was cleared for 100% remote work a couple months back. maybe elon's just... making shit up?

mh, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 14:44 (one year ago) link

xp could go either way I think

rob, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk on remote work

“omg the future is going to be sooo sick *squeeee*”

-musk stans, probably

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link

I really wish this guy would just die in one of his fucking rockets already

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link

need to check where that friend of mine who was working at tesla (thought he still was?!) is at, because as far as I know, he was cleared for 100% remote work a couple months back. maybe elon's just... making shit up?

people are freaking out on blind fwiw

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

lol

🐦[Elon Musk on remote work

May 31, 2022 pic.twitter.com/gTw1Bdh18h🕸
— Internal Tech Emails (@TechEmails) June 1, 2022🕸]🐦


This worked well for Marissa Meyer

gyac, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

yeah seems pretty clear at this point that companies are going to have to get on board with wfh or lose their people to ones that are

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

I'm also just going to say: fuck Teslas.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link

yeah seems pretty clear at this point that companies are going to have to get on board with wfh or lose their people to ones that are

meta mandated a return to work a month or two back and ... nobody came in. i am like the only person on my floor. it's spooky but super productive!

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link

yeah seems pretty clear at this point that companies are going to have to get on board with wfh or lose their people to ones that are

I still think this might largely be the case, but it seems less so with each passing month. I keep hearing from friends that their wfh/remote options are either being rescinded entirely or severely reduced. In lots of markets it seems like the landlords and business park owners are whining about lost income in the right ears or something.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link

I have a buddy that works for Apple and he reports that their mandated return to work is really, really unpopular

And they're losing prospective staff to companies that are more flexible

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

theyre def trying i just think mid-long term that offering wfh will be such an advantage that eventually everyone will get on board, not to mention that theyll save on office space, rn theyre all locked in to leases but eventually thatll play out, who knows maybe some of that office space can be converted to housing

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

maybe we can all move into apples zillion dollar new headquarters

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link

lmao @ "Tesla's success is due to me sleeping on the floor" in the wake of all these "Elon was a shitty programmer and everything he did had to be redone" stories

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

He didn't make any coding mistakes when he was sleeping, though.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link

i didnt know he even claimed to be a programmer thought it was more mechanical engineer, just saw a guy on twitter say elon asked him how to run a python script lol which i mean he couldve easily googled it

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

i think his BS degree isn't doesn't stand for Bachelor's in Science

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link

huh just physics and economics i guess

Two years later, he transferred to the University of Pennsylvania, where he graduated in 1997 with a Bachelor of Arts degree in physics and a Bachelor of Science degree in economics from the Wharton School.

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk: Sleep that’s where I’m a programmer.

life is a highway to the danger zone (PBKR), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link

meaning he is a robot who nightly executes a script to set himself to low power mode

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

yeah idk why people represent him as an engineer or having present-day programming knowledge, he was in the web 1.0 years with a group making online yellow pages type of crap and selling those off for a couple years before starting one of the paypal predecessors, and by that point he was already the financial backer

mh, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 19:36 (one year ago) link

https://t.co/EHkHs1U75X pic.twitter.com/GMt2XYBt6s

— Elvis The Alien (@ElvisTheAlienTV) May 31, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 22:37 (one year ago) link

I imagine that there are some percentage of competent, rational people in positions of authority at Tesla, and they are doing their damnedest to run things normally despite having a despotic CEO operating by whim. I see the WFH thing same as the Pride thing, you maintain sane policies and just sort of cross your fingers and hope he moves on to another shiny object before he actually take any actions behind his pronouncements and tweets. All that being said, the cultishness and sketchiness of Tesla probably mean that the ratio of competence and rationality is lower than in other comparable companies.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 22:48 (one year ago) link

isn't this the guy who wants to work remotely from mars

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 23:03 (one year ago) link

two weeks

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 23:05 (one year ago) link

Musks are the reason oligarchs need a Putin. Don’t worry, we’re making one now, but he is still currently a low-level (fascist) bureaucrat/officer right now.

For all of Trump’s bullshit, he cannot Putin, he’s yeltsin and will need an out/rescue.

The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Thursday, 2 June 2022 02:21 (one year ago) link

dud

the life of a rebo band is always intense (emsworth), Thursday, 2 June 2022 03:24 (one year ago) link

self parody

Elon Musk says the humanoid robot known as Optimus or Tesla Bot may be up and running within months https://t.co/HLBhM5bxtz

— Bloomberg (@business) June 3, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 3 June 2022 12:11 (one year ago) link

ELIMINATES DANGEROUS, REPETITIVE, BORING TASKSHUMANS

life is a highway to the danger zone (PBKR), Friday, 3 June 2022 12:13 (one year ago) link

Is there any doubt he already has his own sexbot?

it may be up and running

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 3 June 2022 12:55 (one year ago) link

"Super bad"

Musk feels 'super bad' about economy, needs to cut 10% of Tesla jobs

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 3 June 2022 13:15 (one year ago) link

But but the humanoid robot rollout is only months away!!!!! He should be hiring!!

THE VEIVET UIUERABOUIU (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 3 June 2022 13:35 (one year ago) link

can I make a prediction right now that none of us will ever see this thing in our lifetimes

frogbs, Friday, 3 June 2022 13:49 (one year ago) link

lol in your face
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/716BidTlurL._AC_SL1400_.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 June 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link

I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords

The message, sent on Thursday and titled "pause all hiring worldwide", came two days after the billionaire told staff to return to the workplace or leave

Just leave already, the robots will build each other and work 150 hours a week and they don't even care if the plant is racist

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 June 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

can I make a prediction right now that none of us will ever see this thing in our lifetimes

Lies. I just updated mine while driving my Cybertruck through The Boring Company tunnel to the airport this morning!

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 June 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link

(should we be worried that the MiBro Supabad is a 'choking hazard'?)

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 June 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link

im McLovin it

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 June 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link

choking hazard in the sense that it may decide to start choking you

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 3 June 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link

that's what I mean!! it has claws

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 June 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link

can I make a prediction right now that none of us will ever see this thing in our lifetimes

― frogbs, Friday, June 3, 2022 9:49 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

id bet theyre not even actually working on it its just end stage musk hype, hes run out of things to hype up, you can only say full self driving is two years away for so long before people lose interest

lag∞n, Friday, 3 June 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link

yeah he's like an inexplicably popular hacky af sci-fi author now

rob, Friday, 3 June 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link

Wish these creepy, terminally online Musk stans got into like, Asimov, instead.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 June 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

saw a thread on twitter where someone posted screens of musk critical threads on various nerd sites reddit etc they said the stans are still around but the tide seems to have turned against him

lag∞n, Friday, 3 June 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link

well he's dicking around with twitter instead of space stations, of course they're gonna start drifting away

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 June 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link

def a bad sign when Biden is landing zings

rob, Friday, 3 June 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link

suspect also the hard right political turn prob didnt sit that well with a lot of people xp

lag∞n, Friday, 3 June 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

his name was brought up at the record store the other day and the responses were "I am so fucking sick of hearing about that whiny idiot" and "I hope his rocket blows up with him inside" which is uh not how people were talking about him a couple years ago

frogbs, Friday, 3 June 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

xp
yeah I imagine a lot of his core stans are the kind of people who bristle at everything being "political"

rob, Friday, 3 June 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

he shouldve stayed in his lane, how unfortunate

lag∞n, Friday, 3 June 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link

also you can only promise the moon and not deliver so many times before people get fed up

frogbs, Friday, 3 June 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link

yeah scamming is fundamentally unsustainable, feel like he couldve or maybe still can thread the needle where he scams to keep the tesla stock price high long enough to reap the benefits but then at some point it becomes a normal profitable company with a normal stock price, but idk its prob not in his nature

lag∞n, Friday, 3 June 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link

Wish these creepy, terminally online Musk stans got into like, Asimov, instead.

― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, June 3, 2022 12:25 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I love Asimov but I'll bet he'd be the most annoying man on centenarian Twitter if he were alive today

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 3 June 2022 18:01 (one year ago) link

Skip ahead to 6 minutes and you can see how that would have played out in full

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzYMYPTNV8A

Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 June 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link

holy shit this is comedy that could not be more narrowcast directly at me, thank you

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 3 June 2022 18:28 (one year ago) link

Asimov would be too busy picking apart the atrocities in the Foundation adaptation

lmao that is so good

frogbs, Friday, 3 June 2022 18:33 (one year ago) link

I love Asimov but I'll bet he'd be the most annoying man on centenarian Twitter if he were alive today

This is absolutely true.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 June 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link

After reading Alec Nevala-Lee's Astounding I'd be happy if Asimov just stayed dead and buried.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 4 June 2022 00:58 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk’s father, Errol, says that Elon had to be hospitalized after he mocked the suicide of a schoolmate’s father and he pushed Musk down a flight of stairs pic.twitter.com/GCae5JlPj3

— Michael Ballaban (@Ballaban) June 4, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 June 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link

Awesome writing — I thought Elon’s dad pushed him down the stairs

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Sunday, 5 June 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

We should all get to push him down the stairs.

sleep, that's where I'm the cousin of death (PBKR), Sunday, 5 June 2022 19:00 (one year ago) link

hush! hush! whisper who dares!
elon musk has just fallen downstairs

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 5 June 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link

Self-pushing stairs should be with us in a couple of months

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 5 June 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link

this guy i swear

lag∞n, Monday, 6 June 2022 13:52 (one year ago) link

Alex Spiro! A Boston sports legend. Defended both Aaron Hernandez and Robert Kraft!

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 6 June 2022 13:54 (one year ago) link

i'm very glad I'm not an employee of twitter, this shit must be excruciating

akm, Monday, 6 June 2022 14:02 (one year ago) link

dude is turning into a fine Trump-ian businessman

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 June 2022 14:08 (one year ago) link

This is just the billionare equivalent of drunk-buying (or in Elon's case, on a coke binge) something online and regretting it.

THE VEIVET UIUERABOUIU (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 6 June 2022 14:28 (one year ago) link

he's just playing the (E)long game

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 June 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link

As noted in our previous correspondence, Mr. Musk will of course comply with the restrictions provided under Section 6.4, including by ensuring that anyone reviewing the data is bound by a non-disclosure agreement....

narrator: no he won't

towards fungal computer (harbl), Monday, 6 June 2022 14:32 (one year ago) link

It's going to turn out that the kid of pushed Musk down the stairs was actually a time traveler from the future

it was older Elon Musk

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 June 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link

his son with grimes

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 6 June 2022 15:56 (one year ago) link

The Tesla CEO now believes Twitter is "transparently refusing to comply" with the terms they agreed to, "which is causing further suspicion that the company is withholding the requested data due to concern for what Mr. Musk's own analysis of that data will uncover."

The move adds to speculation that Musk is trying to wriggle free of the agreement, which comes with a $1 billion breakup fee, though his past tweets suggest he may try to get around that cost.

I didn't order anchovies, no way I'm paying for this pie

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 6 June 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

(after eating the pie)

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 June 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link

Today I’m investigating Twitter for potentially misleading Texans on the number of its “bot” users. I have a duty to protect Texans if Twitter is misrepresenting how many accounts are fake to drive up their revenue.https://t.co/OZbwdV3pnY

— Texas Attorney General (@TXAG) June 6, 2022

lmao

, Monday, 6 June 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

it's like an AI bot wrote it

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 June 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

The lawyers are happy.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 6 June 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

the state of texas enabling elon is funny, to me

mh, Monday, 6 June 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link

Texas will do anything for their newest Texan

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 6 June 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link

i thought they were in favor of letting social media platform users post whatever they want at all times

towards fungal computer (harbl), Monday, 6 June 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

"I have a duty to protect Texans" seems especially specious at this particular juncture

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 6 June 2022 20:09 (one year ago) link

These people are not bots. They just all live in their parent's basement. Their parent is named The Alamo.

pic.twitter.com/wmhUErnqaG

— Crazy Frog (@TrueCrazyFrog) June 6, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 02:28 (one year ago) link

possibly the wildest tweet i've ever seen

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 03:30 (one year ago) link

Good pod discussion on why tech media outlets can’t change how they boost psychopaths

https://www.buzzsprout.com/1004689/10722966-tech-media-needs-to-do-better-on-crypto-and-elon-musk-w-ed-zitron

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 07:11 (one year ago) link

Does Elon know who Baudrillard is?

treeship., Tuesday, 7 June 2022 11:47 (one year ago) link

I'd like to see ol' lonny musk wriggle his way out of *this* jam

Coast to coast, LA to Chicago, Western Mail (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 12:16 (one year ago) link

this thing looks like total shit

Some more beautiful photos of the Cybertruck from yesterday. @elonmusk

Photos shared by Nattanan here: https://t.co/FLuSILXQ7R pic.twitter.com/mOiBnxYR01

— Sawyer Merritt 📈🚀 (@SawyerMerritt) June 7, 2022

look at the warping in the side panels and the absolutely shitty join at the front end

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 20:33 (one year ago) link

happy meal toy

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link

Design cues from the Damnation Alley vehicle.

nickn, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 20:49 (one year ago) link

why it have no headlights

they should google "how to make cars"

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link

people used to laugh at the Pontiac Aztek, who's laughing now

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link

First comment: "Thing looks like a curbside fridge with a “FREE” sign taped to it."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

Or a pile of leftover ducting from an A/C installation.

nickn, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link

He just keeps winning and getting more money you guys are just envious of his genius. Look at that truck LOOK AT IT!

Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 00:08 (one year ago) link

admittedly they do look pretty striking & neat right out of the factory, the problem is I bet they'll all look like dogshit after 15,000 miles, not to mention all the "this is why nobody designs cars like this" problems that'll be discovered along the way

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link

lmao that thing is so offensive imagine being a designer at tesla youve devoted your professional life to developing some sort of expertise and the lamest man in the world hands you a drawing on a napkin, its called the "cyber truck"

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 14:04 (one year ago) link

saw someone speculating it looks that way cause they used very strong aerospace aluminum which makes is super durable but you also just cant shape it the way you really need to for a car

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 14:14 (one year ago) link

It looks like a shop class welding project where you only get a passing grade if your welded box can hold water. (I speak from experience.)

Also, how is this a truck?? I don't see a picture of cargo capacity so wtf is it even for?

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link

cyber tronk

mh, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link

You carry your groceries in the cloud

Also, how is this a truck?? I don't see a picture of cargo capacity so wtf is it even for?

― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, June 8, 2022 10:15 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

it has a bed in the back, also 4wd etc offroad stuff, tho its supposedly not body on frame which is maybe the prime truck thing they say it has "an exoskeleton" whatever that means https://www.repairerdrivennews.com/2019/11/22/tesla-cybertruck-uses-stainless-steel-exoskeleton-rather-than-traditional-body-on-frame/

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link

i was looking at a 1990, boxy looking Volvo. These straight lines are seen in the Cyber truck. Its interesting to see the reaction of this stainless steel truck hauling freight with its 8 camera security. It sets a new standard for tough.

— Grant Hendricks (@GrantHe62069356) June 7, 2022

the entire "look, it won't dent" thing is kind of dumb because if you're actually using a truck for work, nobody cares if the vehicle gets dinged up. the worst risk is enough paint gets scraped off that you end up with rust and corrosion

now, if you're worried about people throwing bricks and rocks at your fancy rolling fortress for... reasons.. then having a dent-proof exterior makes sense

mh, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 14:25 (one year ago) link

why dont they just made the whole car out of the plastic cladding

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 14:26 (one year ago) link

lmao the volvo comparers tweet has zero likes but someone telling him to stfu has hundreds

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 14:27 (one year ago) link

Lol mh xpost

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link

My dad designed and made a couple of recumbent bikes in the late '80s that used 100% riveted structural sheet metal instead of a welded frame. Apparently he was 30 years ahead of the (nonexistent) curve.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link

modern cars are designed to crumple in a crash so that the people inside them don't die

adam t. (abanana), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 16:59 (one year ago) link

yeah good point wonder if this thing would pass a crash test, not that theyre ever going to release it anyway

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link

this stainless steel truck hauling freight

Freight? You mean a sack of potting soil and a couple grocery bags from Costco, right?

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

cars should be made of NERF

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link

We know a place where Floam cars go

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

Musk stans are my least favorite stans of all

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

For all you haters mocking Musk's future-tank, well, I'll have you know that Ignaz Semmelweis was the first to discover the importance of hand washing to maintaining basic hygiene, and he was mocked, too. In the future *all* cars will look like vintage 16-bit video game vehicles, and Musk will be counting money. Until he dies from a communicable disease easily avoided by hand washing.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

vintage 16-bit video game vehicle

It does have some Battlezone lines going on there

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 18:28 (one year ago) link

i am a very very function over form guy and can def be won by proving the former. But that looks like shit, and surface deformations like that usually don’t mean good things at all wrt design or production competence.
wrt layout design, there seems a small market for a truck that is functionally truck with also uh, another thing (hello Ridgelines which i love). but here the skyhigh bedwall and… it’s all 100% wtf to this amateur.
in a world where hummers became dick extensions i dunno.

Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

I still think about the moment he introduced this monstrosity to the world and demoed its "indestructability" by throwing a giant metal ball at the window, which shattered instantly. Then tried it again and shattered the back window too. That was such a funny moment that I almost can't hate the guy completely. Few people get to be a part of such a widely broadcast, pure comedic moment like that.

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

It looks like there's a smaller car inside of it and someone stuck a whole bunch of protective sheets of metal on in, post-apocalypse style. Like Dead Reckoning from "Land of the Dead:"

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/zombie/images/4/42/Dead_Reckoning.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/300?cb=20171207033908

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

lol I pulled a Musk
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/8e/b5/e4/8eb5e493f9a86ab751eb6a15196cddff.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 18:39 (one year ago) link

I'm getting a broken image on that which coincidentally also resembles the Cybertruck

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

Let me know when Musk makes this one and I'll sign the check
https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/amv-prod-cad-assets/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/MMFR_PlymouthRock.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

brb designing and market planning an aftermarket 3 ft tall android doof warrior

Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

Ran across this gem in the twitter roasting:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUrXjMgaAAAJMca?format=png&name=small

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link

lol, that's fantastic

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link

frogbs otm, one of the great self-owns by a blowhard. on a par with geraldo and the empty vault. you’ll be able to judge the quality of the obituary by whether or not it includes that moment.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

not that I should expect any differently but it’s weird that that moment didn’t really dim his star any among the stans (not surprising) or tech and mainstream media (a little more surprising)

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link

shit, it looks like they've added a windshield wiper! This thing ain't no joke:

https://electrek.co/2022/06/07/tesla-cybertruck-updated-interior-and-windshield-wiper/

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 21:51 (one year ago) link

https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/12/Tesla-Cybertruck-tailgate-open.jpg

Bed looks good for a hefty load of laundry and a labradoodle puppy

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link

They really cheapened scaled down the tires from those first renderings, huh?

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 21:56 (one year ago) link

They prefer the term "value engineering."

nickn, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 22:09 (one year ago) link

The richest person alive doesn't have an ad block or YouTube premium. https://t.co/XrK1WoxMEt

— Whack, with a silent 'H' (@WhackNicholson) June 7, 2022

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 22:10 (one year ago) link

i haven't seen a youtube ad in like a decade, no idea what he's talking about

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 22:11 (one year ago) link

also sounds like the ad algorithm has pegged him as a guy who might fall for scams

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 22:12 (one year ago) link

I wonder what he watches on youtube

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link

lol

This company I found is giving away these planet bracelets to spread awareness about climate
change, just cover shipping! grab one before theyre gone #Savetheplanethttps://t.co/3Arhhwgz1J pic.twitter.com/zNLf5bluf3

— Whack, with a silent 'H' (@WhackNicholson) June 8, 2022

Also, don't forget to to check out these awesome Yoga Mats which have different yoga positions printed over them. Get one while they're on SALE and FREE SHIPPING at https://t.co/3Arhhwgz1J pic.twitter.com/QWjs02CZ8x

— Whack, with a silent 'H' (@WhackNicholson) June 8, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link

I have a hunch Musk saw this show at a formative point in his youth and has spent his life trying to match its promise:

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BM2QxOTk4NzctYmFmYS00M2ZiLTgzYmItM2YyOGM5ZGZlYTgxXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNzMzMjU5NDY@._V1_.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 23:58 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J98Kb55ZWLM

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 23:59 (one year ago) link

You pay more for red.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 June 2022 00:28 (one year ago) link

offered in support of? it may happen again.at least john delorean had big coke deals. because he was not a billionaire i spose. bring back scrappy coke dealers making stainless steel cars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt924g5lZ7w

Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Thursday, 9 June 2022 02:03 (one year ago) link

Ha the first two sentences are residual from prev non post

Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Thursday, 9 June 2022 02:04 (one year ago) link

third one was def a con

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 June 2022 02:08 (one year ago) link

Can you imagine hitting your head or your elbow on one of the sharp seams / corners?
How will this vehicle pass pedestrian impact safety standards? or are all the guys at Tesla holding their breath so nobody tells Elon?
edit: turns out that the USA is almost the only place that doesn't give a fuck about anyone except the driver.
https://www.governing.com/now/can-american-cars-be-made-safer-for-pedestrians

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 9 June 2022 06:10 (one year ago) link

haha i know about that situation in the article with the flex posts, i live pretty close to there. according to my nearby nextdoor posters, flexposts cause accidents because cars will slow down (???) and they are ugly and you should just drive over them. any improvement for pedestrian safety makes people SO mad.

towards fungal computer (harbl), Thursday, 9 June 2022 12:53 (one year ago) link

driving makes people psychotic, the famous car is one of the worst things

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 June 2022 12:57 (one year ago) link

Yeah more than 20 years ago idiots in Charlottesville, VA were complaining that traffic calming to slow traffic down will “cause accidents”.

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 9 June 2022 13:26 (one year ago) link

driving makes people psychotic

this is a truth bomb. I'd add that driving only a few times a year makes you realize that the act of driving a car is fucking insane, just a lunatic idea that mega-distracted dummies like me are all tooling around in these heavy death machines while having feelings

rob, Thursday, 9 June 2022 13:34 (one year ago) link

Cars dehumanize the drivers in everyone's eyes. I had a premonition that you could get widespread support for any kind of mass extermination as long as the victims are behind the wheels of cars.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 9 June 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link

How will this vehicle pass pedestrian impact safety standards? or are all the guys at Tesla holding their breath so nobody tells Elon?

feel like Elon has not given so much as a passing thought to this

frogbs, Thursday, 9 June 2022 15:04 (one year ago) link

its not a real car its a shiny object for the media

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 June 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link

How will this vehicle pass pedestrian impact safety standards? or are all the guys at Tesla holding their breath so nobody tells Elon?

feel like Elon has not given so much as a passing thought to this

― frogbs, Thursday, June 9, 2022 11:04 AM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Elon: Pedestrians? more like pedo-strians

I don't blame anyone for being cynical about this after a decade of functional impunity for Tesla, but I'm telling you: NHTSA is coming for Autopilot/FSD. https://t.co/s94HgKUZsX

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) June 9, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 June 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link

driving makes people psychotic

my last car had a broken horn, and I always asked for it not to be repaired when I got my rego servicing, as I’d found not even being able to honk made me incredibly calmer, more aware, and zen-like behind the wheel.

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Thursday, 9 June 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

Drivers do emo-aggro things they would never do out on the sidewalk... the protective steel frame of the vehicle brings out the worst

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 9 June 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link

my last car had a broken horn, and I always asked for it not to be repaired when I got my rego servicing, as I’d found not even being able to honk made me incredibly calmer, more aware, and zen-like behind the wheel.

There's a relatively well known bumper sticker that reads "HORN BROKEN - WATCH FOR FINGER".

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 9 June 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link

i think i've used my horn about 10 times, total, in my life. i used it this morning, by chance. i was just driving down the middle lane, minding my own, when i noticed a line of cars in the turn lane, waiting behind someone snoozing at a red light. most people here are too polite to honk, but in the last few places i've lived people would have performing an improvised 4 to 5 car "honk symphony" in this situation. it would be enough to completely annihilate someone's day - "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING!!?! IT'S GREEN!!! THERE'S A LINE BEHIND YOU, COME ON!! HOOOOOOOOOOOOONK!! HYOOOONK!!". it was nice and quiet in the streets of st. louis. so as i passed by this non-situation, i gave the lightest lil' honda fit "toot toot", and was pleased to see in my rear-view mirror that the sleepy driver finally made the turn and the rest of the line was moving up, not just in this lane, but in life

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 June 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link

^^Lyrics to Bruce Springbean - "Lil' Honda Toot-toot".

willem, Thursday, 9 June 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

lol, fucked up your artist name

willem, Thursday, 9 June 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link

Springbean I can deal with. It's when people call me Springsteen that really irritates me!

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 June 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link

it’s really satisfying to do the rapid staccato “beep beep beep beep beep beep”, not as much a fan of the standard honk or (the worst) leaning on the horn in a hot rage

brimstead, Thursday, 9 June 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link

lol Karl that is a very accurate description of driving in Chicago. I swear you could get honked at there if you weren't already moving when the light turned green if they didn't just try to pass you instead

rob, Thursday, 9 June 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link

it's basically like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2vejhdm8lo

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 June 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

I barely register horns as a sign of danger anymore, since drivers seem to use them primarily to express annoyance.

blatherskite, Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:01 (one year ago) link

i get irrationally embarrassed any time horns are involved even when theyre necessary. i've taken to flashing my brights whenever someone ahead of me is sleeping on a red light. which almost certainly does nothing, partic in the daytime

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

you just gotta give em a lil toot toot nbd

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

i fuckin hate cars and traffic and as i've aged i'm constantly freaked out about how unnatural it is for humans to be hurtling through space in these death machines at speeds (and i'm talking as low as 30 mph here) that we just shouldnt be doing. now that i'm essentially a daily microdoser (abuser) of delta 8 mommy weed my patience behind the wheel has increased, but my phear of being murdered by another driver--whether via impact or a road rage incident involving a freeedom tool--has as well. luckily thanks to the nature of my work, proximity to our meager public transit and my bike i've cut my time in a car down to levels i would have never thought possible.

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link

i want to revise my earlier post. i said "i noticed a line of cars in the turn lane, waiting behind someone snoozing at a red light." it was hopefully clear from the context of the rest of my traffic report (in the Elon Musk thread), but this car that i lightly honked at was snoozing at a _green light_. it wasn't just that they could make a right on a red and that they weren't doing it -- this light was green.

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

also p embarrassed by how aggro I was behind the wheel in my 20s-early 30s. which tbf compared to Atl traffic ca 2022 was fairly negligible. even so it’s kind of amazing there aren’t more murders by car every day

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

crazy thing about cars is their immediate danger and warping of human psychology isnt even the worst part about them compared to the societal and environmental impacts of pollution global warming suburbanization alienation increased policing and so forth

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

lol yes same. I typed red but meant green

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

cars and drivers are like warped human minds wrapped in a mysterious passenger cabin inside a beautiful, best in class exterior

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link

i always say that

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

someone needs to make a magazine for these cars and their driver, asking them both where are they going

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:37 (one year ago) link

this is like low-tier friedman now, where you just yell at passing cars and ask their drivers where they are going

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

where are you going oh to work ok haha yeah me too man my job is having opinions

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:39 (one year ago) link

in a flat world, we all have opinions, it's just that some of them are worth more than others. i spoke with one local driver to find out why:

"where are you going?!?"
"whaaat? i had my window up!"
"where is your car going?" i asked
"no, i don't have any money!" he said as his window smoothly closed.

call them Distributed Opinion Dollars!

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

that's joe biden's economy for you

rob, Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link

someone needs to make a magazine for these cars and their driver, asking them both where are they going

― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, June 9, 2022 2:37 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Omg, this is bringing back memories of my dad writing joke letters into Car and Driver magazine in the early 80s, which apparently was a common thing for the readership then. My Dad signed one as “Ralph Nader” and my recollection is it claimed he bought his suits at Kmart and liked their chili dogs. It got printed in the magazine and Nader threatened the magazine with libel so they had to print a retraction that it was not in fact Ralph Nader.

sleep, that's where I'm the cousin of death (PBKR), Thursday, 9 June 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 June 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link

It was too late though, the Kmart suit + chili dog rumor had already spread far beyond the Car and Driver readership

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 June 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link

He was a dad and so were his jokes.

sleep, that's where I'm the cousin of death (PBKR), Thursday, 9 June 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

PBKR that is amazing

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 June 2022 19:35 (one year ago) link

Important Correction: It was corn dogs, not chili dogs.

sleep, that's where I'm the cousin of death (PBKR), Thursday, 9 June 2022 22:27 (one year ago) link

Lol yeah that's hilarious.

Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 9 June 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link

designing the autopilot program to shut off less than a second before impact so your company can deny it was the cause of the impact is simply epic pic.twitter.com/Ur4OXHmMXU

— jeff dirt (@muttgomery) June 10, 2022

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 10 June 2022 22:10 (one year ago) link

“your honour when i said full self-driving i had my fingers crossed so it didn’t count”

Tracer Hand, Friday, 10 June 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

a self driving Tesla is going to have to literally kill a conservative justice before anything happens to this doofus

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Saturday, 11 June 2022 00:24 (one year ago) link

lmao all hands with elon musk this week

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 13 June 2022 22:20 (one year ago) link

elon doesn’t understand the difference between gender and sex, so let me explain:

gender is a person’s internal perception of themselves, whereas sex is what a trans woman is having with his wife right now https://t.co/04IMgTI4Th

— ellie (@misandryinc) June 12, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 13 June 2022 23:41 (one year ago) link

wow lol

lag∞n, Monday, 13 June 2022 23:42 (one year ago) link

its weird that the entire right is using "what is a woman?" as some sort of gotcha question when it's like...clearly a made up concept. you don't have woman birds or man birds. lady birds perhaps. but a "woman" is strictly a human thing! we know about the whole gender spectrum in part because it exists in other mammals!!

frogbs, Monday, 13 June 2022 23:58 (one year ago) link

dogs are boys and cats are girls iirc

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 00:04 (one year ago) link

a lady condor just had a baby without a man condor, they're not needed anymore

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 00:05 (one year ago) link

someone from venus

mookieproof, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 00:06 (one year ago) link

Boys come from Jupiter to get more stupider

"what is a woman?"

that paragon of masculinity matt walsh (rw idiot troll, NOT hilarious guy from Veep) really getting some mileage out of this

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link

The question is as about as meaningful as "What is a bro?"

mommy what is a funkadelic

made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk comes to defense of 'Libs of TikTok' over Twitter death threats https://t.co/MZjHnysXjE pic.twitter.com/ogLBGkKsfw

— New York Post (@nypost) June 14, 2022

These people are such fucking marks

the "radical leftist" who supposedly DM'd Libs of TikTok to threaten her was actually a right wing fan of hers who thought she would get his sarcasm and enjoy his joke pic.twitter.com/o5DijIsgE0

— Matt Binder (@MattBinder) June 14, 2022

Launched into the sun

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

My favorite Velvet Underground outtake.

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 02:04 (one year ago) link

lag00n iirc this is your pet theory

We obtained internal $TSLA documents from a number of whistleblowers that prove that Tesla and Elon Musk have been defrauding investors for years in a variety of different ways. But the most important is that Tesla has been lying about how many cars it sells.

— PlainSite (@PlainSite) June 15, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link

wasn't this all well-known for years? didn't someone actually spot a parking lot full of "sold" Teslas in Arizona or something?

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

is this going to be like when college professors make their students buy their crappy book

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

to drive up "sales", i mean

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

that was a common trick with Scientologists, to keep Hubbard's shitty books on the NYTimes bestseller list

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

L. Ron and Elon seem to share some personality traits

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

I'm not going to read that tweet thread or do any actual research on my own, but when every single fucking car on the road is already a Tesla, why would they want to lie about how many they sell?

peace, man, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

to get into the s&p500 to boost their stock price?

to have a market cap 5 times ford and toyota combined?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

when every single fucking car on the road is already a Tesla

i see a lot of teslas these days too. the other day a tesla parked next to me as i was walking downtown and three people got out of it and actually irl right there on the sidewalk in front of me started shouting at each other about whose fault it was the door locks weren't working. they wanted to leave their tesla, skirt their way around the homeless, and patronize one of our many fine downtown boutiques; but they couldn't because the door locks weren't working, and they blamed each other. they opened and closed doors and tugged on handles and fumed and barked "try it now" and "no stop just stop!" it was so pornographic i thought it had to be a dream, but it wasn't.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

lol

peace, man, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link

lmaooooooo

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SbEss4svXk

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 18:37 (one year ago) link

wow!

i was just watching a recommended facebook video about ancient egyptian locks, earlier this morning. the basic mechanics of them have barely changed in thousands of years, it's amazing

and yet here we are

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

gemstones scene much better because less on-the-nose. my story is true but hacky

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 18:41 (one year ago) link

is this going to be like when college professors make their students buy their crappy book

― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, June 15, 2022 10:45 AM (fifty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah, except many of those professors don't make dick, and Musk makes enough in one minute to support you and me for a year if not more. Lay off the easy targets.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

One day, probably in my lifetime, the only thing the US government will be able to actually do is fund cops & military, and force you to buy a Tesla

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link

lag00n iirc this is your pet theory

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, June 15, 2022 1:35 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

very interesting

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link

I genuinely don't know if I've ever seen a Tesla in real life. I'm sure there are some in my state, but my city doesn't really attract the kind of d-bags who would buy them.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

will be interesting to see if/when owning one starts to communicate "i am a republican"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link

not many teslas in vermont tho i do see more than the previous none

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link

what if instead of database just jira

How do we know? $TSLA revolves around a product called JIRA, a bug database commonly used at software companies. At Tesla, JIRA tracks more than just software—it tracks *everything*. Weird A/C smell? JIRA ticket. Console glitch? JIRA ticket. Car catch on fire? JIRA ticket.

— PlainSite (@PlainSite) June 15, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link

so... what's the delta? by how many cars is TSLA over-reporting by?

, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

I think a lot of normies own them but Musk really seems to be chasing the d-baggiest sector of the market there is

if he can get the bros who’ve heretofore purchased $80k trucks as status symbols/personality replacements/to own the libs to switch to his farting car then that proves he’s smart

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

A journalist just asked me if I wanted to send them a recording of the all hands with musk tomorrow “off the record”.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

in hilo i now see multiple teslas literally every time i leave the house. may have been a "libertarian" influx lately (guys in search of compound space etc) but probably most of these are driven by well-off liberals who wanted something cooler than a leaf. (the one person i actually know with one is a retired public schoolteacher, so i can't rly be less than nice about it.)

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

Both of the two coworkers I know that have recently bought Teslas are blue lives matter cops' kids who constantly harp on "Biden's gas prices". Insignificant sample size sure, but hard to imagine these would be the Tesla buying types even three years ago.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

I see a couple of Teslas every day, one of them is the Model X SUV that remains the ugliest vehicle on the road and another is a regular S with CRYPTO vanity plates. Haven't seen that one in a couple of weeks so it might be getting repoed.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 19:34 (one year ago) link

I’ve never seen one either. Maybe I’d know if one hit me.

Jeff, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link

Along with the Range Rovers, they are the bane of the carpool line at my son's school.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 19:38 (one year ago) link

they definitely have the highest percentage of vanity plates of any vehicle make

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

pour one out for the Teslas silently driving themselves back to the dealership in the wake of crypto crashing

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

A journalist just asked me if I wanted to send them a recording of the all hands with musk tomorrow “off the record”.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, June 15, 2022 3:27 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

cant believe max would do that

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

I see many more of them now, and the racial makeup of those driving them is pretty even in my majority minority city.

Like any very expensive thing, they are a status symbol, little more.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

I will say that the first time I saw one, though, I was living in Chico, CA, and some asshole Tesla owner parked ACROSS TWO SPACES at the local grocery store that was always packed because it had the best quality/price ratio. I left a note on it that said, "LEARN HOW TO PARK YOUR FANCY CAR."

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

figure it’s just a matter of time til I see one modded out to roll coal

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link

guys, the libertarians owning teslas have been there the whole time. utopian tech nerd overlap

mh, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link

The first Tesla I saw was parked in a friend's neighbor's driveway in Berkeley and had a bumper sticker that said "this car runs on coal"

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

3% of California's power comes from coal, but ok.

bulb after bulb, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link

I don't know, if these people are the jackasses that would normally buy a giant land rover, and instead are buying an electric car? I guess that's a good thing overall

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link

plus they're more likely to burn to death in a Tesla because they can't open the door

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 20:28 (one year ago) link

guys, the libertarians owning teslas have been there the whole time. utopian tech nerd overlap

― mh, Wednesday, June 15, 2022 3:56 PM (thirty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

they were the first buyers, sure, but it's like an expensive prius now in california, i.e. totally mainstream family car.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link

pour one out for the Teslas silently driving themselves back to the dealership in the wake of crypto crashing


this is v funny will

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link

:)

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 20:40 (one year ago) link

A single tear coming from a headlight.

nickn, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link

libertarian Wall -E

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link

I wear headphones when walking so I have no way of even suspecting if a car is a tesla

very much enjoyed dlh’s little sketch tho

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 21:17 (one year ago) link

They are one of the most popular cars here in Vancouver. A lot of older guys mostly I think. My friend bought one when he retired and theres like 5 on his block. First time I was in it he wanted to demonstrate the self-drive thing, although we were screaming at him not to. The car immediately sped up to 20km over the speed limit (this was in a place where deer regularly leap out onto the road). When we got to our destination his seat automatically started tipping him out the door, which had the effect of crushing my foot, because I was jammed in the cramped back seat. I actually thought it was going to break bones but in the end it was ok probably only because I had boots on.
More seriously, he couldn't even find the proper version of Daddy Cool by Boney M on the special Tesla streaming radio thing. Only a 2000s remix. Crap car.

everything, Thursday, 16 June 2022 01:53 (one year ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 01:55 (one year ago) link

xxp they’re the ones that accelerate toward you when you’re using a crosswalk

mh, Thursday, 16 June 2022 13:21 (one year ago) link

the guy I’m acquainted with who has a Tesla used to have an override installed on the a/v console in the middle of the dashboard in a prior car that’d allow it to play video while the car was moving

we used to joke that some day he’d end up flying off the interstate while watching dave matthews live at the gorge

mh, Thursday, 16 June 2022 13:25 (one year ago) link

Musk bearish on Twitter.

Tesla founder Elon Musk said the key to his electric automaker's value is whether it can achieve self-driving technology, adding that the firm would be "worth basically zero" without it. pic.twitter.com/PAxBAHPv3k

— modest proposal (@modestproposal1) June 16, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 June 2022 14:24 (one year ago) link

they really did miss the window where they could have just licensed/sold all the baseline electric car stuff they were ahead on by now, huh?

mh, Thursday, 16 June 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link

idk there a bunch of companies that do that sort of thing, teslas trying to make cars, take on the big guys

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link

das alotta sauce baby

I'm so old, I can remember when Tesla's pitch for the $100k Roadster was that it would fund a Model S that started at $50k, which in turn would fund a Model 3 that started at $35k.

The cheapest Tesla you can buy today is $48,490 out the door.
https://t.co/pKV0WvkDNv

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) June 16, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link

imagine having 100k to spend on a car and thinking "im going to buy a tesla" absolutely freakin psychotic

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link

I got to ride in a Rivian last week, an electric truck which has a lot of the same cool features the Tesla has but with a much better interior & a way more intuitive center console. it's also free of all the glitches and quirks that Teslas have. it occurred to me that Tesla is in the Sega Dreamcast phase, I don't know how they'll compete with the big boys when all that technology starts coming standard. they kinda suck at making cars.

frogbs, Thursday, 16 June 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link

yep

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link

https://www.tesla.com/blog/secret-tesla-motors-master-plan-just-between-you-and-me

written in 2006

$35,000 in 2006 is worth $50,745 today

i don't follow elon's predictions too closely but it seems like he was saying similar stuff in 2008:

.@elonmusk discussing electric vehicles in 2008 as tesla was nearly out of cash.
pic.twitter.com/q41Tw9bfx9

— Tesla Owners Silicon Valley (@teslaownersSV) October 26, 2021

35K in 2008 is $47.5 today

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 June 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link

Our Tesla owning neighbor recently added an electric Porsche to his fleet. He's still got the Tesla, but honestly, if you can afford a car that *starts* at $50k, let alone higher (the Porsche is iirc something like $90k), then I don't see *why* you would go Tesla when you could go with any other luxury car. Like, two or three times this week I've seen one of the new electric Mustangs. Looks like they start at around $43k. A few months ago I saw an Aston Martin SUV (base is $176,000). Those who want something more modest seem to be leaning Nissan Leaf or Chevy Bolt, which are in the ... $30k+ range?

One of the most fervent Tesla proselytizers I've talked with stressed the pioneering, market penetrating power of the Tesla *brand*, which he likened to Apple. But what Musk seems to be doing, as far as this armchair hater can tell, is working overtime to harm the brand while failing to scale up the quality or affordability of the cars themselves. That seems like a poor strategy. Like, what was that comedian's hot off the presses take on Dave Chappelle? "Chappelle, do you know what comes up when you Google your name, bro? That’s the legacy?" It's getting to the point where the last thing anyone thinks of when they hear the name Tesla is the car, and the first is Elon Musk, and what a douchebag clown he is.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 June 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link

funny detail that a lot of the tech that tesla and now other electric car makers are putting in their cars is stuff that people actively dont want and/or is just dangerous

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link

The only way to know for sure is to make fart noises an optional feature on every car and see how many people bite.

Musk should announce hologram truck nuts.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link

waiting for the reveal that the entire Musk/Tesla empire has been a long con operation by the Big Three, hoping to ruin the reputation of electric cars by association with bad build quality, self-crashing autopilot, and an omnipresent douchebag

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link

35K in 2008 is $47.5 today

― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, June 16, 2022 11:57 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah he was still saying it would cost 35k when they launched it five years ago tho, iirc they did sell a handful of them at that price but quickly raised it

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link

bad build quality, self-crashing autopilot, and an omnipresent douchebag

lol these clauses can both be describing Musk!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:05 (one year ago) link

the fact that screens have become such a lux symbol in cars just sucks dont we get enough of these things

https://i0.wp.com/evtak.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/motor1-1.jpg

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link

saw a study the other day that a driver fucking with the car screen has a way slower reaction time than a drunk

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link

still buttons on the steering wheel why isnt there a screen wtf

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link

should make just the entire interior a big continuous screen

towards fungal computer (harbl), Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:13 (one year ago) link

instead of buying a car just look at computer

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

those seats look really comfortable though and with the blue lights if i took a long drive in it i would probably fall asleep

towards fungal computer (harbl), Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link

You guys are actually making me want to buy a car.

Jeff, Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link

play a soothing youtube on all my mercedes eqs screens falling asleep and driving into the ocean

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link

"Wave of Mutilation" was predicting the future

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link

Trying to navigate Atlanta rush hour traffic looking like Tom Cruise in Minority Report

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link

oh my god. this all hands.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link

Idk I drove a car w a big screen on a road trip a couple of years ago and I liked it a lot for map/navigation, large format music/audio display, and making calls on the road. Bigger text in the display means having to peer at it less, taking your eyes off the road. Plus you need one screen that is the control for multiple systems as opposed to your dash having a lot of control panels.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link

liveblog it!

, Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link

Not gonna lie, the wireless nonskid device charging pad was nice too.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

PS it was not a Tesla but I can't wait to find out what kind of meeting caek is being subjected to.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:49 (one year ago) link

you need one screen that is the control for multiple systems as opposed to your dash having a lot of control panels.

― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, June 16, 2022 12:47 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

physical buttons >>>

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link

afaict it's being liveblogged generally accurately in the NYT and bloomberg and verge.

those writers are doing a lot of work to make him sound like he's got a three figure IQ and is experienced in talking to humans using the english language. so just imagine the liveblog but stupid.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link

xp Make your case but I disagree. Maybe I haven't been in a really well-designed car for a while but dashboards are dark, buttons are dark, print is small, and everything below chest-level is too low to see without leaning over (I am old).

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link

I have a 2005 Outback with 190k on it— it is the barebones model, absolutely nothing fancy except a slightly nicer after-market stereo that it came with (I bought it used).

The 2016 Outback that my dad drives feels like a different universe— I can skip a song and change the volume using the steering wheel, ditto climate control, the car has enough sensors and stuff to essentially feel like it is "self-driving" when it's in cruise control, and so on. I don't care for navigation stuff or a lot of other "bells and whistles" of the car, but a lot of it is quite useful if you know how to use it without allowing it to distract.

I had saved up enough to buy it from him last year for a decent price (it has a few minor problems), but he backed out of it because the demand for new cars was such that he couldn't get himself a new one until 2023. Praying that my Outback lasts until then.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:05 (one year ago) link

if you own a car you learn where the buttons are and can use them without even looking, which is a pretty big contrast to navigating computer menus, screens have their uses not everything can have a button, but putting the most commonly used things like climate control volume etc are hate crimes against drivers

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

some cars are putting air vents controls in the screen, the thing you used to just be able to reach out and manipulate now requires operating a computer, absolute madness

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

aw hell yeah lol

Musk is musing to Twitter employees about aliens.

"I have not seen actual evidence of aliens"

— Sheila Dang (@Sheila_Dang) June 16, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

lagoon massively otm about buttons. same reason i'm extremely vexed about the near-complete death of phones with physical qwerty keyboards. they're way, way, way faster and more reliable, and i don't have to look at the screen!

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link

re: buttons vs. touch screens, I could have sworn I read that some very basic functions on the Tesla, and possibly many new cars with touch screens, take several on-screen navigations to get to what you need. Things like climate control. Defenders say "well, use voice control," but anyone with a phone (or who regularly uses voice to text) knows what a mess that can be.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link

i have sad news the physical buttons are not coming back any time soon. screens everywhere, screens on the floor, screens in the headrest, you won't be able to move for the fucking screens they're going to be encasing you in

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

I liked having the map, my time to destination, my directions, etc in clear view on a large screen (to be fair I was traveling across the country and needed those things more than in everyday life).

I will allow physical controls for ventilation I guess.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link

suspect the car makers like putting everything in the screens cause its cheaper easier and completely modifiable, but mostly people really dont like it so i guess well see how it plays out, bet the most used buttons will end up staying, even the lucid air prob the craziest ev on the market has some buttons

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

I hope caek is having fun.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

some new cars have screens or sections with a permanent spot for climate controls but even that isnt has good since you cant feel them

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link

none of that even touches on distraction tho, screens are genuinely dangerous for drivers to use

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

if you own a car you learn where the buttons are and can use them without even looking, which is a pretty big contrast to navigating computer menus, screens have their uses not everything can have a button, but putting the most commonly used things like climate control volume etc are hate crimes against drivers

― lag∞n, Thursday, June 16, 2022 12:06 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

true but there has to be some kind of intuitive element to it. the reason why so many devices are similar these days is because the designers understand that the human brain has certain expectations, and that is massively important when designing a car, in which the driver is expected to operate everything without really thinking, since they're focusing on the road. this is why it's so boneheaded for Tesla to be putting various controls in its own clever space, if you drive multiple cars you really don't wanna have to stop and think where the A/C or windshield wipers are. I know someone who's driven them for years and still gets irritated by the turn signal buttons on the wheel. he says it still breaks his concentration to signal that way.

frogbs, Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

I have a 2005 Outback with 190k on it— it is the barebones model, absolutely nothing fancy except a slightly nicer after-market stereo that it came with (I bought it used).

The 2016 Outback that my dad drives feels like a different universe

Counterpoint: I drive a twenty-year old Outback and I have never driven a rental car and felt "wow this is a really different experience from driving my car at home" -- I think in many ways the technology matured some time ago

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link

Then again I never use cruise control (which I believe my current car does have some version of)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

wrote a novel on my blackberry, could feel the keys press beneath my fingers, very few typos. now roughly 20% of key presses are wrong on this samsung. nobody is catering for me and my fat arthritic fingers.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

And obviously a completely different powering mechanism like an electric motor is an authentically big difference even if it doesn't affect the driving experience!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

I liked having the map, my time to destination, my directions, etc in clear view on a large screen.

― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, June 16, 2022 1:35 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah theyre good for navigation, prob best setup is to have a voice controlled map on the drivers screen where the speedometer is, crazy that the tesla x has absolutely nothing in that spot you have to look down and over to even see your speed

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

the human brain has certain expectations, and that is massively important when designing a car, in which the driver is expected to operate everything without really thinking,

Exactly -- I can rent a car and I don't have to learn how it works, every control is just where it's supposed to be, it works the way a car works; I think this is critical for safety

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

I hope caek is having fun.

― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, June 16, 2022 1:36 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

haha if you think surfing linkedin on company time is fun then yes!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

those writers are doing a lot of work to make him sound like he's got a three figure IQ and is experienced in talking to humans using the english language. so just imagine the liveblog but stupid.

we don't want to imagine it, caek, we want to live it through you

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

Counterpoint: I drive a twenty-year old Outback and I have never driven a rental car and felt "wow this is a really different experience from driving my car at home" -- I think in many ways the technology matured some time ago

Then again I never use cruise control (which I believe my current car does have some version of)

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, June 16, 2022 1:42 PM (fifty-nine seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

i use cruise control basically every time i get on the highway hate having to keep track of whether im speeding, would love to have some of the newer smart cruise control features as well as the new safety stuff auto breaking lane assist etc which imo does represent a significant move forward in driving tech, also if you care about such things new cars drive really well its kind of crazy how much better they are, one minor piece of new car tech i really like is the led headlights that will dim just the part of the beam thats pointed at an oncoming car, i want that lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

none of that even touches on distraction tho, screens are genuinely dangerous for drivers to use

I don't understand why screens are more distracting than having to look at a tiny LCD screen that's almost at stomach-level to see which of the 5 different ventilation modes you're currently in based on pushing a "MODE" button??? (Thanks, Subaru.) All the controls should be where you can peripherally see them while still looking at the road imo.

Hate. Haaaaaaate the lane assist and automatic braking.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

those are both screens?

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

also if you care about such things new cars drive really well its kind of crazy how much better they are

yeah I think it must be the case that I don't care about such things because the difference is really not perceptible to me, I'm not sure I even know what it means to "drive well" (my car goes the direction I point it at the speed I ask of it, so I guess it's more than just that)

I don't understand why screens are more distracting than having to look at a tiny LCD screen that's almost at stomach-level to see which of the 5 different ventilation modes you're currently in based on pushing a "MODE" button??? (Thanks, Subaru.) All the controls should be where you can peripherally see them while still looking at the road imo.

On a well-designed car the ventilation mode is controlled by a five-way switch which clicks as you turn it to each position so you can just feel where it is with your hand! Having to look at a screen for this would be like having to look at a screen to change gears.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

i hate, hate, hate using the touchscreen when i'm driving. it's at an awkward angle, it's not particularly responsive, and it take even longer to look at than glancing down at my phone

call all destroyer, Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

the whole screen situation in my 2015 outback is so bad slow poorly designed etc but luckily its just for music i dont have the nav subscription def easier to use my phone

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link

fp'ing tabes' dad and eephus for cultural appropriation

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:13 (one year ago) link

g∞n t∞!

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

oi m8!

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

those are both screens?

Sorry yes that was unclear. They're both screens but the difference is between a larger, high-contract color screen that's high on the dash, versus a small black-on-grey LCD screen on the center console at the height of my lowest rib, but this is a design problem more than anything. So maybe my point is that I would like a large screen that allows all the controls to be at the best, most convenient level with the best visibility, instead of them competing for space. But I do not have a car.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

* hi-contrast

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

not having a car is the best solution of all

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

some of the safety/assist features seem nice and I'd like them on a new car but Tesla cheaped out and dropped lidar on most of their models, right? so they don't have a premium there unless you really believe their visual-only system works

mh, Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

i dont think any new cars use lidar its too expensive which is why tesla doesnt either, the difference being that musk just went on promising full self driving was right around the corner anyway

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link

As of January, according to the latest tally from BloombergNEF, 17 automakers globally have announced a total of 21 lidar-equipped passenger car models, either in production or coming soon. This number will increase as systems like GM's lidar-based Ultra Cruise are added to specific models.

https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/musk-looks-isolated-rivals-embrace-lidar

mh, Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

"announced"

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

also if you care about such things new cars drive really well its kind of crazy how much better they are

right and this is why I'm skeptical of the whole "self-driving" thing being a gamechanger, like what are we supposed to do just sit behind the wheel and nervously hope the autopilot doesn't drive into a playground? I like driving!! my car has a backup cam, radar cruise, and a blind spot detector. most of the annoying aspects of driving have already been made much easier.

frogbs, Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:28 (one year ago) link

if there was real safe level 5 driving that would be a pretty amazing advance, i mean ~40k people die every year on our roads

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

If self-driving tech was actually good, fuck yeah I’d use it. No amount of making a car nicer improves bumper to bumper traffic short of me having the ability to nod off.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

we could use any kind of help to fix driving in FL. one person died recently when their vehicle plunged off of Toll Road 408 and landed on Interstate 4 below.

Slowzy LOLtidore (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

Sounds like driving is doing WAY too much. People need wages that allow them to work fewer hours and better social support systems so they're not constantly exhausted from trying to handle 3 people's worth of responsibilities and falling asleep at the wheel. And public transit options that replace bumper to bumper traffic, and affordable housing near transit with walkable commercial zones so we don't have to drive so far and so much.

Oh, we don't care about any of those things? Cool, definitely self driving cars then.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

lots of people do care about those things, there may be some powerful interests arrayed against them tho

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

Here's Jim Chanos on why he considers $TSLA to still be the quintessential stock of this market, and why he's still betting against it, and how it's to this market cycle as $CSCO was to the dotcom bubble. https://t.co/mSMtHh7SXx pic.twitter.com/51Mlm9u7ek

— Joe Weisenthal (@TheStalwart) June 16, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

I would like a cruise control that keeps a maximum speed too, so you don't forget to brake enough going down a mountain and scare your passengers

not that I did this to lag∞n or anything hehe

mh, Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link

the idea that tesla is some sort of zeitgeist future-looking stock makes sense, people just don't have a lot to pin their enthusiasm for a future on outside of riding notions and the stock roller coaster

mh, Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link

what's weird is that when it comes to driving I'm like "cruise control, no way, I want to have my attention constantly on anticipating what's ahead and exert direct control of what I'm doing, no automated BS for me" but when it comes to investing I'm like "eww, who would buy individual stocks, just buy an index and let the market do the work"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 16 June 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

the market can be modeled by a random walk with a forcing term, so "follow the market" works. if you model driving with a random walk you die.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 June 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

the cars i drive were made in the late 80s and early 90s and have very manual controls. they also dont have air bags!

, Thursday, 16 June 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

crossing my fingers that my 2006 hatchback w 210k miles makes it to 300k. the idea of car shopping in the modern era gives me hella anxiety

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Thursday, 16 June 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

I love cruise control for long trips— it’s absolutely an energy saver, at least for the way I drive.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Thursday, 16 June 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

honestly would prefer to move somewhere that a car just isn’t necessary before it’s time to buy again

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Thursday, 16 June 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link

“i use cruise control basically every time i get on the highway hate having to keep track of whether im speeding”

can confirm the subie eyesight shit makes hiway driving much nicer. you still have to be 100% in control ime, it just means you don’t have to take your eyes off the road for speedo or wonder about how fast you’re going. you wont go over x mph, if the cars afore you slow down, so do you, and if they speed up, so will you, but not over x mph. You can just steer and navigate traffic and brake when you need to do. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I don’t like the steering thing that bumps you inside the road lines so i turn that off.

Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Thursday, 16 June 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link

We rented a Mazda CX-5 thing last year - sort of a crossover small SUV - to drive out to Zion

At one point on the drive home, we locked in with two other CX-5's, using the radar-guided cruise control.. so when the first car was able to speed up, the others did as well.. it was really fucking weird but kinda cool

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 June 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

the last trip on the interstate that I didn't use cruise control on was when I was being shady, shadowed a semi trailer in my circa 2010ish hybrid car, and managed to eke out an extra 10mpg

mh, Thursday, 16 June 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

Hunt3r, what you describe is exactly what I’m talking about— it makes highway driving, particularly for long stretches with little congestion, an absolutely different and I think less physically taxing activity. You still have to be alert mentally and have your eyes on the road, obviously.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Thursday, 16 June 2022 21:08 (one year ago) link

to divert away from cartalk for a while

Elon Musk, SpaceX and Tesla are being sued for $258 billion over claims they are part of a racketeering scheme to back the cryptocurrency Dogecoin https://t.co/HgvMaYpV7F

— Bloomberg (@business) June 16, 2022

feel like yeah, he absolutely was manipulating the price of Dogecoin for personal gain, but idk if that's technically a crime

frogbs, Thursday, 16 June 2022 21:51 (one year ago) link

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pump_and_dump

, Thursday, 16 June 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link

webistics

towards fungal computer (harbl), Thursday, 16 June 2022 22:18 (one year ago) link

Pump and dump chump

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 16 June 2022 22:25 (one year ago) link

musks doge situation def seemed very shady at the time

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

Everything this motherfucker touches seems shady.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 16 June 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link

im just a simple poster idk what this case needs to go forward but could be pretty interesting if it does

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link

*to the tune of Pumps and a Bump*

Pump an-a dump/ pump an-a dump/ elon musk finna pump an-a dump

All I wanna do is zoom-a-zoom-zoom-zoom
And a poom-poom, just pump and dump

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 June 2022 23:20 (one year ago) link

Teslas Running Autopilot Involved in at Least 273 Crashes in Past Year

The new data set stems from a federal order last summer requiring automakers to report crashes involving driver assistance to assess whether the technology presented safety risks. Tesla‘s vehicles have been found to shut off the advanced driver-assistance system, Autopilot, around one second before impact, according to the regulators.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 16 June 2022 23:35 (one year ago) link

Pump-de-Dump doop bodu
Dump-de-Pump doop bop

peace, man, Thursday, 16 June 2022 23:36 (one year ago) link

Interesting to see even the hacker news set worrying that people will think they like musk if they drive a Tesla https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31771367

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 June 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link

elon really fucked up lol

lag∞n, Friday, 17 June 2022 00:44 (one year ago) link

Smog's "I Was a Stranger" about Elon's arrival on Mars

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 17 June 2022 04:33 (one year ago) link

Kind of wonder if Tesla is in too big to fail territory no matter what Elon does or how much of a scam Tesla is finally revealed to be. How many pension funds and 401ks are invested in it at this point?

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 17 June 2022 05:10 (one year ago) link

Might as well confess at this point that my wife owns and drives a Tesla, and we both love it. I'm probably the only person on this thread who likes them, although I agree that Musk is an idiot.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Friday, 17 June 2022 07:29 (one year ago) link

friend of mine recently bought one

as insufferable as Elon is, it was a pleasure to drive in

the roof is made of glass!

corrs unplugged, Friday, 17 June 2022 10:19 (one year ago) link

Kind of wonder if Tesla is in too big to fail territory no matter what Elon does or how much of a scam Tesla is finally revealed to be. How many pension funds and 401ks are invested in it at this point?

― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, June 17, 2022 1:10 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

This was my point a couple of weeks ago. It would have to be something criminal and even then I'm just not sure our system is going to punish a rich guy like Musk. I would love to see it though, I hate this guy :(

Cabernet Frank (PBKR), Friday, 17 June 2022 11:08 (one year ago) link

too big to fail is not the same as too rich to be prosecuted. you need to be close to a monopoly to be too big to fail, and tesla have a lot of competitors (who are rapidly catching up). tesla stock could absolutely crash in a bad way, or at least back to a realistic valuation

elon musk will never suffer because of the judicial system tho

micah, Friday, 17 June 2022 11:12 (one year ago) link

yeah companies like tesla do from time to time fail

lag∞n, Friday, 17 June 2022 11:39 (one year ago) link

I hope Tesla fails. I hate the way their cars look, I hate the way their owners act, and I hate Elon Musk and his racist apartheid company.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Friday, 17 June 2022 12:09 (one year ago) link

x-post to anagram, just curious: I think I've mentioned before this strange Tesla owner thing I've noticed, where they all (the three or four I know) love their car while simultaneously admitting it's nowhere near as nice or reliable or well-made as comparable/previous luxury cars. Was this at all your experience?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 June 2022 12:14 (one year ago) link

Well we've never had a comparable size/price car before so I have nothing to compare it to really. My wife is the driver, I'm just a passenger/navigator and I just like the look & feel of it. With petrol prices going through the roof I think we did the right thing in buying it when we did. Obviously there are other EVs out there but the Tesla just seemed like the right choice for us idk. We also test drove a Volvo EV but it was kind of a boring experience compared to the Tesla.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Friday, 17 June 2022 12:58 (one year ago) link

No farting.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 June 2022 13:50 (one year ago) link

driving a car should be a boring experience in my humble opinion

towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 17 June 2022 13:59 (one year ago) link

Pontiac - “Real Driving Excitement” begs to differ

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 17 June 2022 14:01 (one year ago) link

Driving excitement is meant to replace our early human excitements, like chasing wild game across dangerous fields and bravely growing wheat, or making cave paintings

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 17 June 2022 14:03 (one year ago) link

Only now the excitement is more about how to connect Bluetooth

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 17 June 2022 14:03 (one year ago) link

well i hope that tesla meets the same fate as pontiac

towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 17 June 2022 14:08 (one year ago) link

Does Tesla have a good slogan? Maybe they could use a good slogan to turn things around

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 17 June 2022 14:26 (one year ago) link

"Build Tough. Fart Tough"

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Friday, 17 June 2022 14:42 (one year ago) link

"ride free" is their motto! that's even better

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 17 June 2022 14:47 (one year ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/17/technology/spacex-employees-fired-musk-letter.html

“The letter, solicitations and general process made employees feel uncomfortable, intimidated and bullied, and/or angry because the letter pressured them to sign onto something that did not reflect their views,” Ms. Shotwell wrote. “We have too much critical work to accomplish and no need for this kind of overreaching activism.”

i thought this guy was all about free speech :\

, Friday, 17 June 2022 14:47 (one year ago) link

indeed who has time for overreaching activism when you are engaged in the important work of frivolous space travel

towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 17 June 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link

"ride free by becoming an indentured servant on mars with a competitive interest rate"

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 17 June 2022 15:07 (one year ago) link

Pontiac - “Real Driving Excitement” begs to differ


ngl I get some real driving excitement every time the odometer on my Vibe crosses another 10k mark. pretty incredible that the worst(?) division of a not exactly great American auto maker was able to produce a car that has lasted this long. GM shouldn’t have discontinued them. should have just transitioned to: Pontiac - “uh we just make these dumb Vibes now”

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Friday, 17 June 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link

or rather: we just slap our logo on Toyota Matrixes now lol

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Friday, 17 June 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link

vibe twins, yeah! greatest fricking car ever made, reliability of a toyota with the lol factor/cheapness/no one will ever bother jacking this steez of a pontiac 💟

bule bulak oying (cat), Friday, 17 June 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link

oh right teslas. yeah, my hippie college techbro town is crawling with them. aiui one of the lesser musks lives here, i reckon he gets a family discount and hands them out to people so they'll be friends with him.

bule bulak oying (cat), Friday, 17 June 2022 16:49 (one year ago) link

Lesser Musks sounds like a seldom visited archipelago.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 June 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

someone leaked screenshots from our slack, and now people are getting harassed by qanon types, great stuff.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 June 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

(because

I voted for Mayra Flores – first time I ever voted Republican.

Massive red wave in 2022.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 15, 2022

)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 June 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

not that it matters but I’d bet he didn’t vote

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Friday, 17 June 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

Yup

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 June 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

x-post to anagram, just curious: I think I've mentioned before this strange Tesla owner thing I've noticed, where they all (the three or four I know) love their car while simultaneously admitting it's nowhere near as nice or reliable or well-made as comparable/previous luxury cars. Was this at all your experience?

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, June 17, 2022 8:14 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Well we've never had a comparable size/price car before so I have nothing to compare it to really.

― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Friday, June 17, 2022 8:58 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

seems like this is pretty common ppl who were not previously lux car buyers drawn to tesla because they wanted an ev and then being like hey this is really nice, next might want to *whispering* check out a bmw

lag∞n, Friday, 17 June 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link

Yeah, fwiw the dudes I know with Teslas mostly came *from* German luxury cars *to* Tesla.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 June 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

thats crazy to me taking a step down things of that nature

lag∞n, Friday, 17 June 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

I imagine it's because Tesla, for a minute, was the future. And now that the future is here, or closer, Audi, Mercedes, BWM, VW, Porsche et al., they all have their own EVs. I wonder, given the starting price, if some folks gravitate (or gravitated?) to Tesla not for its environmental benefits but as a luxury brand, back when they were more scarce. And now that they're becoming more common (in every sense) they lose that cachet while offering little on the tech front that every other car won't soon offer, too.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 June 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

I am not sure German cars are what they used to be. My oldest, who drives a tow truck and sees all kinds of automotive disasters, is not a fan.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 17 June 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link

farts tho

bule bulak oying (cat), Friday, 17 June 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link

german cars are as they have always been subject to disaster

lag∞n, Friday, 17 June 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

if anything theyre much more reliable than they used to be which is true industrywide

lag∞n, Friday, 17 June 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

The newer BMWs aren’t as nice inside as like a Mazda CX-5 until you’re really climbing up the price list.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 17 June 2022 18:28 (one year ago) link

I've almost never even been *driven* in a luxury car, let alone driven one, but a friend of mine has a Porsche SUV, and even as a passenger I could tell it drove so much better than our Nissan. Of course, $$$, including maintenance, gas, etc.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 June 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

The CX-5 is on my wish list.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 17 June 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

if anything theyre much more reliable than they used to be which is true industrywide

I don't think it's reliability as much as safety and durability.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 17 June 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

i think the biggest criticism of new german cars which is also true of cars in general is theres just too much stuff too many features too fussy too many little things that can break to much computer shit mediating the driving experience

lag∞n, Friday, 17 June 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

The newer BMWs aren’t as nice inside as like a Mazda CX-5 until you’re really climbing up the price list.

― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, June 17, 2022 2:28 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is crazy talk

lag∞n, Friday, 17 June 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

I got a CX-5 in 2014 and love it as much today as I did in the first year. I think my enthusiasm on ILX was one of the reasons tipsy mothra got one a few years later.

WmC, Friday, 17 June 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

Whenever I read any cars reviews (infrequent) they always bring up all sorts of shit I never considered. Engine noise, road noise, how smooth it shifts, etc. I'm so used to just driving utilitarian cars.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 June 2022 18:33 (one year ago) link

Two of my siblings got violently T-boned in a Volvo 700 series sedan in the '90s, and the state transportation safety board sent investigators to look at the wreck to see how it was possible that anyone survived it completely uninjured. Idk about these days, I haven't kept up.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Friday, 17 June 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

Volvo used to have an unparalleled reputation for safety, right?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 June 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link

basically all cars are safer at least in construction than the best volvo of the 1990s, they way in which theyre not safer is theyre all huge and fast now

lag∞n, Friday, 17 June 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

the tesla interior, minus the dash screens, reminded me of a Saturn lol

mh, Friday, 17 June 2022 18:37 (one year ago) link

interesting blog post https://danluu.com/car-safety/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 June 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

i saw someone online say they rode in one recently and were shocked by how theres just nothing in it, said it reminded them of a bachelor apartment with no art on the walls, which makes sense considering their fan base lol

lag∞n, Friday, 17 June 2022 18:39 (one year ago) link

That's def. one of the things one of my Tesla friends likes about it, the cleanness of it all (which somewhat mitigates the cheapness of it all). Which is all moot, because it's only a matter of time before Musk starts selling targeted ads for their touch screens.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 June 2022 18:41 (one year ago) link

"For just $5 a month extra, you can use your touch screen ad-free!"

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 June 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

ive heard them called minimalist which is such an insult to minimalism

lag∞n, Friday, 17 June 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

Volvo used to have an unparalleled reputation for safety, right?

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, June 17, 2022 6:35 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

That's why we had a couple and my sister drives one now. It did get bigger, as caek said--now she has some kind of SUV. But she also has 3 kids, 2 in carseats, which wouldn't have fit in the 740.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Friday, 17 June 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

I suppose no passenger car is going to save you when you rear-end a tractor-trailer at high speed.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 17 June 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/1ZEfjXP.png

crazy thing is the usa had been making steady long term gains in driving safety until it just wasnt, a lot of the recent flattening is prob due to increasing car size, but that last lil upward blip might be because the pandemic drove people crazy

lag∞n, Friday, 17 June 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link

can confirm that, I was out driving around town last weekend and thought I was driving bad, then I saw two separate incidents of cars blowing through red lights on the way home

mh, Friday, 17 June 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

yeah also the police have been on strike

lag∞n, Friday, 17 June 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

also the gains stop when smartphones were introduced.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 June 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link

yeah good call

lag∞n, Friday, 17 June 2022 19:32 (one year ago) link

i don't know how to reveal this to humanity, because it is incredibly bad news, but i dumped all the car fatality data into Numbers and ran a 6th order polynomial trendline on it, and ...we're all going to die next year

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 17 June 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

ah well it could be worse

lag∞n, Friday, 17 June 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

idk I think the fact there's nothing on the dashboard except the screen is kinda cool

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Friday, 17 June 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

until the screen goes dark for some unknown reason

thinkmanship (sleeve), Friday, 17 June 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

Whenever I read any cars reviews (infrequent) they always bring up all sorts of shit I never considered. Engine noise, road noise, how smooth it shifts, etc. I'm so used to just driving utilitarian cars.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, June 17, 2022 2:33 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

The one time I was actively shopping for a car, I remember rapidly realizing that reading any kind of professional car review was completely pointless because they are all written by car fetishists. Would have loved to find some resource for people who need to buy a car because they need to buy a car and just for people who are really into cars.

silverfish, Friday, 17 June 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

Hasn't happened to us yet! xp

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Friday, 17 June 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

xp. they're often reviewed like this guy reviews tools, i.e. without telling you what it is like to own and use them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GTJMhJuL68

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 June 2022 20:19 (one year ago) link

Road noise is legit, though. I drove my ex-roomie's Wrangler when I helped her move four hours away and even with a hard top the ambient noise was giving me a headache - and I was driving a utilitarian work pickup at the time.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 17 June 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

Volvo used to have an unparalleled reputation for safety, right?

I think Saab actually tested better, but Volvo was more than happy to have people circulate this idea

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 17 June 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link

(I've always had a weird, unjustified love for Saabs, which I'm sure would be dashed if I actually owned one)

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 17 June 2022 20:58 (one year ago) link

Saabs are forever associated with the Clickhole "Garbage Sons" article for me now.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 17 June 2022 21:23 (one year ago) link

https://www.classicargarage.com/assets/images/f/saab-sonett-2-1967-two-stroke-red-rouge-rot-rood-02-3162057f.jpg

A 2-stroke 3 cylinder motor? gimme a break, of course I'm in love

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 17 June 2022 21:28 (one year ago) link

not drive my car? xp

, Friday, 17 June 2022 21:31 (one year ago) link

No, "I don't cry. I Saab"

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 17 June 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link

"FIAT" stands for "Fix It Again, Tony"

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 17 June 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link

Found On Road Dead

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 17 June 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link

Terrifying Electric Shitty Loser Asshole

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 17 June 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link

The ignition on the floor novelty of slaabs would be lost in an age of fobs what wld they do to bring back the mystique

Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Saturday, 18 June 2022 02:08 (one year ago) link

I admire Elon Musk, but the real People of the Year are the doctors, nurses, first responders, and scientists who have worked so gallantly—there is no other word—to fight this deadly, constantly transforming virus.

— Stephen King (@StephenKing) December 21, 2021

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 18 June 2022 19:34 (one year ago) link

Lost me at "admire".

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 18 June 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

So how much money has Tesla lost from Musk's Bitcoin investment now?

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 18 June 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link

~$600m

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 June 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/elon-musk-son-files-change-201451698.html

Happy Father’s Day Elon

frogbs, Monday, 20 June 2022 23:06 (one year ago) link

the fact he has a trans kid puts an even more dire context on all his bullshit

congrats, not your kid anymore. hope she’s doing great and no one bothers her about the shithead birth father

mh, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 01:26 (one year ago) link

4 things that deserve each other
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/sgifcv/elon_musk_jordan_peterson_joe_rogan_and_the/

adam t. (abanana), Thursday, 30 June 2022 05:14 (one year ago) link

nightmare blunt rotation

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 30 June 2022 05:18 (one year ago) link

he hasn't tweeted for over a week. hope he's ok.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 30 June 2022 05:34 (one year ago) link

if by "ok" you mean "being eaten slowly by very lazy but hungry feral hogs"

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 June 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link

he's probably taking a sex tourism trip somewhere with a couple of big GOP donors/game hunters while he waits for a fresh hair transplant to heal.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 June 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link

in other words "self care"

F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Thursday, 30 June 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

I'm referring to him as Buck ROdgers from now on

| (Latham Green), Friday, 1 July 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

Strong "I did it 35 minutes ago" energy

Without a common goal,
humanity will fight itself

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 6, 2022

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link

ah grasshopper.. you have learned well

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link

Musk deserves a boot to the head.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 17:00 (one year ago) link

That's just a "Gabbo!!" tweet where the Big Reveal is "SpaceX!!"

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

“and that ‘common goal’, funnily enough, is making me and people like me richer and more powerful. yeah I know, seems crazy, but that’s just like, how it is man”

no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

he hasn't tweeted for over a week. hope he's ok.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, June 30, 2022 1:34 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

If Musk is the Howard Hughes of our time, could he be having a storing-urine-in-bottles phase?

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

okay!

this mf loves having kids https://t.co/CcyI1bP21H

— jordan (@JordanUhl) July 6, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 22:37 (one year ago) link

lmao i've met her. chriiiist.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 22:42 (one year ago) link

Musk, who has been an outspoken advocate of bringing more babies into the world, now has nine known children.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 22:42 (one year ago) link

https://bsmedia.business-standard.com/_media/bs/img/article/2022-04/08/full/1649401646-6642.jpg

"Who wants to get pregnant!?!

Seriously, I'm ready to go. This cowboy hat just _does it_ for me."

more begats than Genesis

WmC, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 22:48 (one year ago) link

Page Six exclusively reported in September 2021 that Musk and Grimes had broken up.

yeah well having twins with an employee can definitely strain a relationship

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link

Pffft! At this rate he'll never catch up with Genghis Khan.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 23:07 (one year ago) link

xp
Ha, I googled the same thing but didn't post because I figured it was common knowledge.

nickn, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 23:19 (one year ago) link

“Known children” is a red flag imo

Yeah, it's probably pretty doubtful he knows them.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 23:39 (one year ago) link

The story specifically cites him as saying he doesn’t really have anything to do with his young children, that’s the mother’s job, but he expects that when they’re in their teens he’ll take them to (eg) look at the Great Wall and terracotta warriors if he has business meetings in China.

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Thursday, 7 July 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link

that sounds really, really, really bad for the kids.

ian, Thursday, 7 July 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

Probably better than being around him lots, tbf.

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Thursday, 7 July 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link

Imagine the sounds he makes when he cums.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 7 July 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

“That was epic”

frogbs, Thursday, 7 July 2022 00:42 (one year ago) link

I don’t get it… does Tesla manufacture his condoms too?

— Extra Sauce Queen Li’l 🌳 (@karengeier) July 6, 2022

frogbs, Thursday, 7 July 2022 00:44 (one year ago) link

zing!

thinkmanship (sleeve), Thursday, 7 July 2022 00:55 (one year ago) link

Man I just do not like the new MST.

“That was epic”


“All your base are belong to us!”

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 7 July 2022 01:00 (one year ago) link

Ugh I always get stray abandoned sentences in there

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 7 July 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

he's had a... more than normal number of these kids via IVF/surrogacy considering a few factors

not saying that's the case with this newly-discovered mother, but the fact she had twins takes on some weirdness given everything else

mh, Thursday, 7 July 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link

yeah was thinking the same

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 July 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link

there really is a thing with rich weirdos and having a load of kids via surrogates, my wife was just telling me about a Chinese billionaire who just had 100 babies via surrogates, all eggs from white American women, all kids to be raised in the USA

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 7 July 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

twins are more common when conceived in zero G

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 7 July 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link

The ego and sociopathy of your average billionaire resulting in a desire to spread their glorious seed as far and wide as possible is... unsurprising.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 7 July 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link

No shit!

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 7 July 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link

as matt levine notes musk already agreed to buy the company, so he kinda has to buy it

the reason that elon musk can't get out of the deal over the bots thing is not that he "waived due diligence." it's that he SIGNED A BINDING AGREEMENT TO BUY TWITTER, and that agreement does not have any outs for "i think there are too many bots."

— Matt Levine (@matt_levine) July 7, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 July 2022 21:16 (one year ago) link

which does he have more of now, children he neglects or companies he neglects

Vinnie, Thursday, 7 July 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

what about that poor spaceman he launched in a tesla a couple years back? the most neglected of all

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 7 July 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link

Grimes's mom today:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When did the idea of manhood descend to being the most infantile & obnoxious person in the room?</p>— Sandy Garossino 🇨🇦🌻 (@Garossino) <a href="

When did the idea of manhood descend to being the most infantile & obnoxious person in the room?

— Sandy Garossino 🇨🇦🌻 (@Garossino) July 8, 2022

;>July 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js"; charset="utf-8"></script>

everything, Friday, 8 July 2022 05:23 (one year ago) link

where were the warning signs?

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 8 July 2022 05:31 (one year ago) link

That's just the free market deciding what the idea of manhood should be

Vinnie, Friday, 8 July 2022 06:34 (one year ago) link

ok

BREAKING: Elon Musk says he is terminating his $44 billion Twitter deal https://t.co/X1qiGld4bM pic.twitter.com/6gTTyn6yFV

— Reuters (@Reuters) July 8, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 8 July 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link

see he does know how to pull out

frogbs, Friday, 8 July 2022 21:36 (one year ago) link

Ahhh, so Elon does know how to pull out after all

— MisterZofter (@Zoftwarz) July 8, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 8 July 2022 21:36 (one year ago) link

ha! he still has to pay them a billion to weasel out, right? Twitter might actually turn a modest profit in July

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 8 July 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link

Pouring one out for all the fascists who were waiting to get unbanned

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Friday, 8 July 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link

He has to pay them $1 billion 10 years from now after everything is tied up in lawsuits in the meantime.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 8 July 2022 21:42 (one year ago) link

ha! he still has to pay them a billion to weasel out, right? Twitter might actually turn a modest profit in July

― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, July 8, 2022 5:39 PM (four seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

according to the contract he still has to pay the entire cost and in fact buy the company, the billion termination fee is for if somehow he couldnt get the deal done his financing fell through or whatever, but of course hes the richest man in the world so he can just buy twitter out of pocket which he has agreed to do

lag∞n, Friday, 8 July 2022 21:42 (one year ago) link

Be funny if they banned him

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Friday, 8 July 2022 21:43 (one year ago) link

he can go to court maybe twitter will get sick of him and say fuck it but it seems like people who know what theyre talking about are saying this is a very open and shut case, he has agreed to buy the company

lag∞n, Friday, 8 July 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link

Here’s the letter

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Friday, 8 July 2022 21:53 (one year ago) link

Oh, the billable hours.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 July 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link

This will free up funds for his hostile takeover of ILXor, we're all in for a big payout

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 8 July 2022 22:13 (one year ago) link

doesn't sound very hostile

mark s, Friday, 8 July 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link

would he even be the worst poster?

mark s, Friday, 8 July 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link

would he even be the worst poster?


Take that to the complaints thread, bub

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Friday, 8 July 2022 22:40 (one year ago) link

see you in the court of chancery bitch

The Twitter Board is committed to closing the transaction on the price and terms agreed upon with Mr. Musk and plans to pursue legal action to enforce the merger agreement. We are confident we will prevail in the Delaware Court of Chancery.

— Bret Taylor (@btaylor) July 8, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 9 July 2022 02:01 (one year ago) link

Banning him would be bad for business and probably bad for their soon to be lawsuit somehow but god would it be funny.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 9 July 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link

ok it is pretty funny that all of Trumpland is mad at him now too

frogbs, Saturday, 9 July 2022 03:09 (one year ago) link

He should pour billions of dollars into the Libertarians.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 9 July 2022 04:41 (one year ago) link

But for an accident of birth we could have a Musk/Yang '24 campaign.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 9 July 2022 04:42 (one year ago) link

remember when everyone was excited about Kanye running in 2020 cuz it might peel off some of the Trump votes

I think Elon could actually do it

frogbs, Saturday, 9 July 2022 04:50 (one year ago) link

we'll never get to find out

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 9 July 2022 04:59 (one year ago) link

jarndyce & jarndyce concludes when the money at issue is finally entirely eaten up by court costs

this might be a way down the road -- and it also might not be as far down as musk fronts it -- but it would be an amusing conclusion: EM fully beggars himself with years of litigation lol 🤞🏽

mark s, Saturday, 9 July 2022 09:43 (one year ago) link

smartest businessman in the world spends billions on not buying something

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 July 2022 12:46 (one year ago) link

It’s notes you don’t play

F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Saturday, 9 July 2022 13:33 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk: “I’m terminating my deal to buy Twitter.”

Twitter to @eIonmusk pic.twitter.com/TcMLs7WcrO

— High Yield Harry (@HighyieldHarry) July 9, 2022

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 9 July 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link

haa

lag∞n, Saturday, 9 July 2022 15:17 (one year ago) link

Don’t see that happening

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 9 July 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link

eion musk

lag∞n, Saturday, 9 July 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

Well you got me, well done

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 9 July 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link

I never recommend Twitter but today I do. Simply for reading the Elon Stan's who r insisting Twitter execs are going to jail for fraud lmao

emergency edition of levine: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-07-09/elon-s-out

mookieproof, Saturday, 9 July 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link

This is a brilliant move by Elon Musk. First he made an offer Twitter couldn't refuse, with the caveat of Twitter cooperating with due diligence. Unsatisfied, Musk backs out. If Twitter sues, the discovery process will sink Twitter as sure as an iceberg sank the Titanic.

— trpdo (@trpdo) July 9, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 9 July 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link

god i wish somebody blindly loved me like that

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 July 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

something weirdly touching in their faith that he became the richest man in the world through being some sort of genius instead of incredible luck of birth & government subsidies.

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 9 July 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

To be fair he did put the board in an impossible position and has done damage that will take years to fix. Doesn’t really matter if that was his intent.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 9 July 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

trpdo_guy

Vast Halo, Saturday, 9 July 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

The only self-proclaimed genius that lives up to the billing is GZA

No love for Kwame, the Boy Genius?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS7K2mybKBw

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 9 July 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

Yiiikes

I'm sure there are legal/fiduciary reasons you have to say that, Bret. But if I was still on the board, I'd be asking if we can just let this whole ugly episode blow over. Hopefully that's the plan and this is ceremony.

— Ev (@ev) July 9, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 9 July 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Saturday, 9 July 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

Trump attacks Elon Musk at his rally in Alaska: "He's another bullshit artist."

— Zachary Petrizzo (@ZTPetrizzo) July 10, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 10 July 2022 02:03 (one year ago) link

game recognize game

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 10 July 2022 02:03 (one year ago) link

They certainly both have their stans who are convinced every blunder is a 6d parcheesi move

Vinnie, Sunday, 10 July 2022 06:25 (one year ago) link

the matter will be adjudicated by twitter poll

pic.twitter.com/JcLMee61wj

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 11, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 11 July 2022 12:23 (one year ago) link

man he keeps owning the libs

vaguely wondering if musk timed his termination of the acquisition to draw attention away from the twins story

, Monday, 11 July 2022 13:49 (one year ago) link

"Another" bullshit artist? A rare moment of self-awareness from TFG.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 11 July 2022 13:50 (one year ago) link

xp not to draw comparisons to any political figures of late, but I feel like Elon's definitely leaned into the strategy of constantly doing some new bullshit to draw attention, and I don't think it's a calculated "don't look at that, look at this!" thing. just a never-ending stream of bullshit

mh, Monday, 11 July 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link

tesla q2 results next week which he's been expectation managing about for a while now

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 11 July 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link

vaguely wondering if musk timed his termination of the acquisition to draw attention away from the twins story

― 龜, Monday, July 11, 2022 8:49 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

nah having a ton of kids with a bunch of different women is something he's very much proud of and I think he gets off on the fact that pictures of the women he's sleeping with are going around

that said he definitely has that need to make every news cycle revolve around him at all times, each new controversy is a new opportunity to defend yourself and piss off the haters, plus (like Trump) there's probably something to be said for his shitposting being the reason for at least some of his success

frogbs, Monday, 11 July 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

If you give a narcissist some nookie

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 11 July 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link

I feel like Elon's definitely leaned into the strategy of constantly doing some new bullshit to draw attention, and I don't think it's a calculated "don't look at that, look at this!" thing. just a never-ending stream of bullshit

― mh, Monday, July 11, 2022 10:18 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah now were into conversiongate

For improved quality of sleep, raise head of your bed by about 3” or 5cm and don’t eat 3 hours before bedtime

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 11, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 11 July 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk’s spaceship blew up today. pic.twitter.com/dVfNtqdIGq

— Brianna Wu (@BriannaWu) July 12, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 03:23 (one year ago) link

Responding to the video on Twitter, Musk said: “Yeah, actually not good. Team is assessing damage”.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 03:24 (one year ago) link

vaguely wondering if musk timed his termination of the acquisition to draw attention away from the twins story

It's the money. It's always the money. It's never not the money.

entire thing was clever ruse to

SELL + LIQUIDATE $8.5 BILLION of TESLA STOCK
(w/plausible excuse for doing it)

80% odds Elon pays $1B breakup fee
+ walks away with $7.5B liquidated
20% spends $100M fighting litigation

honestly think he can “land rockets”
but can’t fix ‘bots’? https://t.co/HTyOM3V36B

— Josh Wolfe (@wolfejosh) July 8, 2022

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 03:31 (one year ago) link

Uh oh

NEW: Elon Musk just said “it’s time for Trump to hang up his hat and sail into the sunset” after Trump called Musk “another bullshit artist.”

— No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen (@NoLieWithBTC) July 12, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 03:40 (one year ago) link

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papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 03:51 (one year ago) link

the thing about not eating 3hrs before bedtime is actually pretty reasonable advice imo

(sorry)

the life of a rebo band is always intense (emsworth), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 03:53 (one year ago) link

So is raising the head of the bed if you find it difficult to breathe lying down. It improved my sleep quite a bit. Maybe he should stick to lifehacks

Vinnie, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 03:56 (one year ago) link

you can just have a good pillow. good advice for his twitter followers using a towel stuffed in a pillowcase

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 05:17 (one year ago) link

Much like the memes he posts, Musk just repeated good advice from others.

Chris L, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 06:26 (one year ago) link

I don't know how you could engineer a worse "fuck off Trump" tweet but I guess he has a team working on it

I don’t hate the man, but it’s time for Trump to hang up his hat & sail into the sunset.

Dems should also call off the attack – don’t make it so that Trump’s only way to survive is to regain the Presidency.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 12, 2022

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 07:51 (one year ago) link

the thing about not eating 3hrs before bedtime is actually pretty reasonable advice imo

Why 3” or 5cm though?

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 09:23 (one year ago) link

3" is not the same as 5cm!

micah, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 13:02 (one year ago) link

also no actual engineer would use cm as a unit of measurement. yuck

micah, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 13:02 (one year ago) link

Depends how big your head is, I guess. If you're a normal human, 5 cm. If you're the Elephant Man, 3".

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 13:03 (one year ago) link

“sail into the sunset”

have i ever got cruise ideas for you two

Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 13:36 (one year ago) link

Be launched into the sun

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link

finally a practical use for those rockets!

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 13:40 (one year ago) link

3" is not the same as 5cm!

― micah, Tuesday, July 12, 2022 8:02 AM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this explains the paneling in Teslas

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link

It's the money. It's always the money. It's never not the money.

― Elvis Telecom, Monday, July 11, 2022 11:31 PM (yesterday)

eh, as i have pointed out itt musk sold more than $8.5B in 2021 https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/10/elon-musk-sells-another-963-million-of-tesla-stock.html

selling $8.5B and having to maybe pay $1B (post-tax) of that as damages? doesn't make sense

, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link

he prob just wanted to buy twitter for a minute

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

as long as tesla keeps making certain milestones, or he's able to juice the numbers to make it look like they have, he gets to buy tesla shares at $70

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

he prob just wanted to buy twitter for a minute

― lag∞n, Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:27 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this seems like it tbh

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

he wanted, for one minute, to buy Twitter, or wanted to own Twitter for just one minute, but what a minute.

Who doesn't want a bright shiny toy for a tiny portion of their net worth? It's like one of us looking at getting a new 4K TV.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link

its like one of us looking at getting a new 4K TV, and we get a lot of attention for it (which is something we like)

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 20:31 (one year ago) link

obviously the poop emoji made it into the complaint pic.twitter.com/kPgRONZFo7

— Matt Levine (@matt_levine) July 12, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link

Twitter notes that Elon isn’t allowed to terminate the contract if he himself has breached his own obligations under the deal. And then lists six ways that he breached those obligations pic.twitter.com/rYEMQ5qj4C

— Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton) July 12, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link

yeah that seems like the ball game tbh

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:20 (one year ago) link

No Twitter execs are going to jail when the court learns about da botz

Hes still got it pic.twitter.com/DJLIUIlIq1

— Fentanyl Toucher (@lib_crusher) July 12, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:04 (one year ago) link

lmao trump piling on

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk Tries To Back Out Of Twitter Deal By Deleting App From Phone https://t.co/3Y6IJqxxn8 pic.twitter.com/WYL5yicKzJ

— The Onion (@TheOnion) July 12, 2022

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link

Trump fanfic

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:19 (one year ago) link

trump gonna sire twins on a mar-a-lago functionary to own musk, calling this now

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

This is like the best reverse poison pill. Musk attempts an aggressive, obnoxious hostile takeover of Twitter, for no good reason, Twitter half calls the bluff and agrees to a high price, Musk agrees then compulsively fucks it up so, eventually, tries to back out of the deal, but Twitter is more or less forced to sue to ensure the sale goes through. End result: Twitter, which probably didn't want to be sold, sues a guy, who probably didn't really want to buy it, for deciding not to buy it. Twitter remains as is, Musk loses several billion/face. And now he's also made an enemy of Asshole, who doesn't let things slide, ever.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:26 (one year ago) link

he's also made an enemy of Asshole, who doesn't let things slide, ever.

Oh, I disagree, you are always welcome back in the fold if you ritually debase yourself, see Cruz, Ted

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link

I'd be the shadow of your dog
Just to keep you by my siiiiide

Yeah, but if you debase yourself to get back in his good graces you've already lost, and besides, Asshole keeps the receipts and is ready to revert at a moment's notice. But it's a win-win for spectators, that's for sure.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link

yeah that seems like the ball game tbh

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, July 12, 2022 6:20 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i don't think that's right. it says he can't *terminate* for a breach if he's currently breaching. but he can just sit around and not close and eventually the deal terminates on the drop-dead date.

— Matt Levine (@matt_levine) July 13, 2022

ah well nevertheless

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link

as noted in the comments to that post:

if the Merger shall not have been consummated on or before 5:00 p.m. (Pacific Time) on October 24, 2022 (as such date may be extended pursuant to the terms hereof, the “Termination Date”); provided, however, that (x) the right to terminate this Agreement pursuant to this Section 8.1(b)(i) shall not be available to any party if the failure of such party to perform or comply with any of its obligations under this Agreement has been the principal cause of or resulted in the failure of the Closing to have occurred on or before such date...

bulb after bulb, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 02:49 (one year ago) link

We have accumulated a significant long position in shares of Twitter.

Twitter’s complaint poses a credible threat to Musk’s empire.

— Hindenburg Research (@HindenburgRes) July 13, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 15:58 (one year ago) link

previously

NEW FROM US: We Are Short Twitter

Musk Holds All The Cards. We See a Significant Risk That The Twitter Deal Gets Repriced Lowerhttps://t.co/sHzwFfoXic $TWTR

— Hindenburg Research (@HindenburgRes) May 9, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link

The only plausible outcome here is he settles somewhere north of the billion termination fee but way south of the $45 million merger price, right? And I have no idea how one would value that. Maybe something along the line of an option price?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link

levine's idea was ... well, this guy owns 10% of the company, so how about the break up fee is that?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

Specific performance is such a hard to fathom remedy when you have a 45 billion dollar company, yet it seems pretty likely that the Chancery Court has the legal power to do it. What would happen if they did and then Elon just didn't have the financing and literally couldn't comply?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

In that sense they really have him over a barrel. And the dumb motherfucker put himself there. It's kind of amazing actually, he acted like he was playing them and then he played himself.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

Def a self-inflicted wound... and his puported specialty is not social media software, it's somewhat old-fashioned hardware like rockets, cars and pneumatic tubes

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link

It's possible that Twitter settles for the previous merger price minus predicted court costs. I don't see it going lower than that.

adam t. (abanana), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link

this is a tough one because I really don't want Elon Musk to own Twitter but I kinda do want him to be forced to buy it

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:23 (one year ago) link

It's possible that Twitter settles for the previous merger price minus predicted court costs. I don't see it going lower than that.

― adam t. (abanana), Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:19 AM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

There's no way.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

Twitter will settle for less because they won't actually be able to get him to pay that much. He doesn't have $40+ billion sitting in bank accounts, and he doesn't have financing. And it's not that easy to just dump billions of dollars worth of Tesla stock in a short period of time.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

he already has the financing in place, and even if he didnt hes the richest man in the world, he absolutely has the resources to get the money

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

the thing about twitter settling if its any substantial discount the shareholders might not like it and they have legal remedies available to them too

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

I would like for the courtroom feed to be put on the television please

no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

I don't think he had financing for the majority of it, and even what he has seems like it might be shaky
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/07/musks-twitter-deal-threats-put-new-financing-on-ice-sources-say.html

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link

that article kind seems like whatever but it really doesnt matter, theres no argument that he cant get the money

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

i mean he might not be able to get the money in a way thats nice for him but he did agree to buy twitter so

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link

Levine's latest newsletter:

Money Stuff: Twitter Still Wants Musk’s Money

Bloomberg

Programming note: Lol.

Oh Elon
Yesterday Twitter Inc. sued Elon Musk in Delaware to hold him to his agreement to buy Twitter for $54.20 per share. Twitter’s lawyers are hoping for a quick trial in September, so that the deal can close on schedule in October.[1] You can read Twitter’s complaint here. Here’s the gist of it:

Having mounted a public spectacle to put Twitter in play, and having proposed and then signed a seller-friendly merger agreement, Musk apparently believes that he — unlike every other party subject to Delaware contract law — is free to change his mind, trash the company, disrupt its operations, destroy stockholder value, and walk away. This repudiation follows a long list of material contractual breaches by Musk that have cast a pall over Twitter and its business. Twitter brings this action to enjoin Musk from further breaches, to compel Musk to fulfill his legal obligations, and to compel consummation of the merger upon satisfaction of the few outstanding conditions.

If you have been following the Musk/Twitter fight, here at Money Stuff or otherwise, nothing in this complaint will be a huge surprise to you. On the other hand if you have been following the Musk/Twitter fight, it is probably because you are interested in that fight, and if you are interested in that fight then Twitter’s lawsuit against Musk will probably be of interest to you. So I guess we should go through the complaint.

The basic narrative beats will be familiar. Musk secretly bought a 9.1% stake in Twitter, violating securities laws in the process, then announced that stake and agitated to join Twitter’s board:

Starting in January 2022, Musk began purchasing Twitter stock. By March 14, 2022, he had secretly accumulated a substantial position — about 5% of the company’s outstanding shares. SEC regulations required that he disclose that position no later than March 24, 2022. Musk failed to disclose, and instead kept amassing Twitter stock with the market none the wiser. By April 1, 2022, Musk had accumulated about 9.1% of the company’s outstanding shares, still in secret. ...

Meanwhile, on March 26, 2022, Musk spoke with two Twitter directors, Jack Dorsey and Egon Durban, about the future of social media and the prospect of Musk’s joining the Twitter board. Soon after, Musk told Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal and Twitter board chair Bret Taylor that he had in mind three options relative to Twitter: join its board, take the company private, or start a competitor.

So he signed an agreement to join Twitter’s board, then changed his mind and backed out of the agreement. Instead, he sent Twitter a take-it-or-leave-it unsolicited offer to buy the company for $54.20 per share in cash, and tweeted some cryptic threats to launch a tender offer if Twitter’s board didn’t sell. He also lined up committed financing from banks. So Twitter’s board negotiated a merger agreement with Musk, and they signed it on April 25.

Then the stock market went down:

The risk of market decline, which was Musk’s alone to bear under the merger agreement, materialized. Soon after signing, the U.S. capital markets took a turn for the worse. Within a week after April 25, 2022, the date the merger agreement was executed, Musk elected to sell 9.8 million Tesla shares to finance the merger at prices as low as $822.68 per share, substantially below their pre-Twitter-signing price of $1,005 per share.

So Musk tried to find some pretext to get out of the deal:

Musk wanted an escape. But the merger agreement left him little room. With no financing contingency or diligence condition, the agreement gave Musk no out absent a Company Material Adverse Effect or a material covenant breach by Twitter. Musk had to try to conjure one of those.

And because he is Elon Musk, he chose the most ridiculous imaginable pretext:

What Musk alighted upon first was a representation in Twitter’s quarterly SEC filings over many consecutive years that based on its internal processes the company estimated “the average of false or spam accounts” on its platform “represented fewer than 5% of our mDAU during the quarter.” “Monetizable Daily Active Usage or Users,” or mDAU, is a non-GAAP metric Twitter employs to measure the number of people or organizations that use the Twitter platform. …

Twitter’s SEC disclosures regarding that process and its findings are heavily qualified. As described in the “Note Regarding Key Metrics” section of its filings, Twitter’s “calculation of mDAU is not based on any standardized industry methodology,” “may differ from estimates published by third parties or from similarly-titled metrics of our competitors,” and “may not accurately reflect the actual number of people or organizations using our platform.” As for the estimate of spam or false accounts as a percentage of mDAU, Twitter explains that it is based on “an internal review of a sample of accounts,” involves “significant judgment,” “may not accurately represent the actual number of [ false or spam] accounts,” and could be too low. Twitter has published the same qualified estimate — that fewer than 5% of mDAU are spam or false — for the last three years, and published similar estimates for five years preceding that.

Musk was well aware when he signed the merger agreement that spam accounted for some portion of Twitter’s mDAU, and well aware of Twitter’s qualified disclosures. Spam was one of the main reasons Musk cited, publicly and privately, for wanting to buy the company. On April 9, 2022, the day Musk said he wanted to buy Twitter rather than join its board, he texted Taylor that “purging fake users” from the platform had to be done in the context of a private company because he believed it would “make the numbers look terrible.” At a public event on April 14, Musk said eliminating spam bots would be a “top priority” for him in running Twitter. On April 21, days before the deal was inked, he declared: “If our twitter bid succeeds, we will defeat the spam bots or die trying!” Musk echoed that same sentiment in the press release announcing the merger on April 25, stating that upon acquiring Twitter he would prioritize “defeating the spam bots, and authenticating all humans.”

Yet Musk made his offer without seeking any representation from Twitter regarding its estimates of spam or false accounts. He even sweetened his offer to the Twitter board by expressly withdrawing his prior diligence condition.

On May 5, 2022, Musk announced that he had raised an additional $7.1 billion of equity commitments for the deal from 19 investors — including $1 billion from Oracle chairman Larry Ellison, $800 million from Sequoia Capital, $400 million from Andreessen Horowitz, and $375 million from a subsidiary of the Qatari sovereign wealth fund. Musk’s investors, all sophisticated market participants, made these commitments in the face of Musk’s public statements regarding spam accounts, and knowing he had forsworn diligence. Musk made his plans to address spam a key part of his pitch: As Andreessen Horowitz’s co-CEO stated in publicly announcing the investment, the firm thought Musk was “perhaps the only person in the world” who could “fix” Twitter’s alleged “difficult issue[ ]” with “bots.”

Musk announced that he wanted to buy Twitter because he thought there were too many spam bots. He sent in an unsolicited offer to buy Twitter, did no due diligence at all about spam bots, and asked Twitter for no representations about spam bots. He imagined that there were lots of spam bots, and he was eager to “defeat” them. And then the stock market went down, so now he is pretending that he was tricked into buying Twitter because they went around lying to him about how few spam bots there were. This pretext is bad:

Musk’s exit strategy is a model of hypocrisy. One of the chief reasons Musk cited on March 31, 2022 for wanting to buy Twitter was to rid it of the “[ c ]rypto spam” he viewed as a “major blight on the user experience.” Musk said he needed to take the company private because, according to him, purging spam would otherwise be commercially impractical. In his press release announcing the deal on April 25, 2022, Musk raised a clarion call to “defeat[ ] the spam bots.” But when the market declined and the fixed-price deal became less attractive, Musk shifted his narrative, suddenly demanding “verification” that spam was not a serious problem on Twitter’s platform, and claiming a burning need to conduct “diligence” he had expressly forsworn.

But it’s the pretext he chose, and he started tweeting about the deal being “on hold” because of the spam bot issue. He tweeted this “without any advance notice to the company.” Twitter’s executives found out the deal was on hold the same way we did, by reading Twitter, if in fact any of them read Twitter.

Twitter’s chief executive officer, Parag Agrawal, then tweeted an explanation of how Twitter estimates its bot numbers, and Musk replied with a poop emoji. You had better believe that poop emoji is in Twitter’s complaint:

If this case does not settle and ends in a landmark Delaware Chancery Court decision, that poop emoji had better be in the opinion. All the corporate law casebooks had better have that poop emoji.

In addition to being in obvious bad faith, this pretext is just completely false. In weeks of complaining about bots, Musk has never produced the tiniest sliver of evidence that Twitter’s estimates are wrong in any way:

Nor can defendants show that Twitter has made any representation or collection of representations the inaccuracy of which is “reasonably likely to result in” a Company Material Adverse Effect. They do not even try. Notwithstanding that defendants have received mountains of information regarding Twitter’s processes, far beyond what they are entitled to under the merger agreement, their termination notice asserts only that “ [ p]reliminary analysis by Mr. Musk’s advisors” of the vast data set Twitter provided to Musk after signing “causes Mr. Musk to strongly believe” Twitter’s reported estimates have been inaccurate. Ex. 3 at 6. Musk’s claimed “belie[ f]” is of course no proof of misrepresentation, much less of a Company Material Adverse Effect — which can be established only by clearing an extraordinarily high bar that is nowhere in sight here.

Meanwhile Musk’s lawyers hit on a slightly better pretext for getting out of the deal: In the merger agreement, Twitter agreed to provide information to Musk that he reasonably requests “for any reasonable business purpose related to the consummation of the” merger. So Musk’s team just sent in more and more ridiculous requests for information about spam bots:

On May 21, 2022, Twitter hosted a third diligence session with Musk’s team and yet again discussed Twitter’s processes for calculating mDAU and estimates of spam or false accounts. Twitter also provided a detailed summary document describing the process the company uses to estimate spam as a percentage of mDAU.

Defendants responded with increasingly invasive and unreasonable requests. And rather than use “reasonable best efforts to minimize any disruption to the respective business of the Company and its Subsidiaries that may result from requests for access,” Ex. 1 § 6.4, defendants repeatedly demanded immediate responses to their access requests. The scope of the requests and the deadlines defendants imposed on their satisfaction were unreasonable, disruptive to the business, and far outside the bounds of Section 6.4.

Twitter nonetheless continued to work with Musk to try to respond to the requests. It extended an ongoing offer to engage with Musk and his representatives regarding its calculation of mDAU, and held several more diligence sessions through the end of May. It also provided detailed written responses, including custom reporting, to his escalating requests for information. …

The June 17 letter further contained a litigation-style discovery demand for information Musk asserted was needed to investigate “the truthfulness of Twitter’s representations to date regarding its active user base, and the veracity of its methodologies for determining that user base.” It broadly demanded board materials relating to mDAU and spam, as well as emails, text messages, and other communications about those topics — highly unusual requests in the context of good faith efforts toward completion of any merger transaction, and absurd in the context of this one, which has no diligence condition. Musk propounded these unreasonable requests and touted his contrived narrative about Twitter’s methodologies, all without ever identifying a basis for questioning the veracity of Twitter’s methodologies or the accuracy of its SEC disclosures.

The purpose of these requests was certainly not to work toward closing of the merger, which was the only reason that Musk was allowed to demand information. It wasn’t even really to understand how many spam bots Twitter has. The purpose of these requests was to be so unreasonable — to ask for so much information, and for sensitive competitive and user information that Twitter couldn’t give Musk[2] — that Twitter would say no, and then Musk could say “aha, you didn’t give me the information I asked for, I can walk away.” You can tell because Musk ignored the information that Twitter did give him:

Agrawal and Twitter CFO Ned Segal had been trying to set up a meeting with Musk to discuss the company’s process in estimating the prevalence of spam or false accounts. On June 17, 2022, Segal proposed a discussion with Musk and his team to “cover spam as a % of DAU.” Musk responded that he had a conflict at the proposed time. When Agrawal sought to reengage on the matter, Musk agreed to a time on June 21, but then bowed out and asked Agrawal and Segal to speak with his team not about the spam estimation process but “the pro forma financials for the debt.” …

Musk exhibited little interest in understanding Twitter’s process for estimating spam accounts that went into the company’s disclosures. Indeed, in a June 30 conversation with Segal, Musk acknowledged he had not read the detailed summary of Twitter’s sampling process provided back in May. Once again, Segal offered to spend time with Musk and review the detailed summary of Twitter’s sampling process as the Twitter team had done with Musk’s advisors. That meeting never occurred despite multiple attempts by Twitter.

Musk simply doesn’t care how many spam bots Twitter has, or how it estimates that number; he just wants to get out of the deal, and endlessly asking for more information is a way to manufacture an excuse to get out of the deal. Twitter argues that that can’t possibly work:

Twitter has provided defendants far more information than they are entitled to under the merger agreement. Section 6.4 serves the narrow purpose of giving Parent reasonable access to information necessary to close the merger. It does not give defendants a broad right to conduct post-signing due diligence of a kind they specifically forswore pre-signing. Much less does it give Musk the right to hunt for evidence supporting a bogus misrepresentation theory developed to try to torpedo the deal.

Musk has one more pretext for terminating the deal, which is that Twitter supposedly did not ask him for permission to fire a couple of senior employees and freeze hiring. One problem with this pretext is that it’s not true:

While erring on the side of seeking consent, Twitter has continued to operate in the ordinary course respecting routine management decisions, including decisions concerning termination and hiring of individual employees. In early May, Twitter let go of two executives and announced it would be “pausing most hiring and backfills” as positions became vacant. Musk’s counsel was notified of those decisions at the time and raised no objection.

Another problem is that the contract allowed Twitter to fire people without Musk’s consent[3]:

Twitter specifically negotiated for the right to terminate employees, including executives, without first having to obtain Musk’s consent. Musk had notice back in early May of many of the actions about which he now complains for the first time. He did not object then or at any point prior to his purported termination notice on July 8, because there was no violation.

A third problem is that it’s what Musk wanted:

These decisions aligned with Musk’s own stated priorities. Days after signing, on April 28, 2022, Musk texted Twitter’s board chair to say his “biggest concern is headcount and expense growth.” In a meeting with Twitter management on May 6, 2022, Musk again asserted that the company’s headcount was high and encouraged management to consider ways to cut costs. Musk repeated these themes in conversations with Agrawal and Segal throughout May and June. On June 16, Musk held a virtual meeting with Twitter employees. Asked what he was “thinking about layoffs at Twitter,” Musk responded that “costs exceed the revenue,” “so there would have to be some rationalization of headcount and expenses.” In his final conversation with Segal before purporting to terminate, Musk expressed his concern about Twitter’s expenses and asked why Twitter was not considering more aggressive cost cutting. And, as noted, Musk has refused to approve — or even discuss — Twitter’s proposed retention programs for key employees.

Twitter’s lawyers also point out that Musk himself constantly violates his obligations under the merger agreement. The merger agreement says that Musk can tweet about the deal, “so long as such Tweets do not disparage the Company or any of its Representatives,” but of course “since signing the merger agreement, Musk has repeatedly disparaged Twitter and the deal, creating business risk for Twitter and downward pressure on its share price.” After a due diligence meeting in May where Twitter “explained, among other things, that its spam estimation process entails daily sampling for a total set of approximately 9,000 accounts per quarter that are manually reviewed,” “Musk Tweeted publicly a misrepresentation that Twitter’s sample size for spam estimates was just 100.”[4] And then:

The narrow point of this argument is that “the merger agreement provides that if defendants are in material breach of their own obligations under the merger agreement, they cannot exercise any termination right they might otherwise have.” (See section 8.1(d).) So when Musk sent a letter terminating the merger agreement, it didn’t work, because he was breaching his own agreements right and left. So the agreement is un-terminated and he has to keep working to close the deal.

But there is also a broader point to this argument. Ultimately what Twitter wants here is a judgment of specific performance, “ordering defendants to specifically perform their obligations under the merger agreement and consummate the closing in accordance with the terms of the merger agreement.” The merger agreement says Twitter can get that judgment, but it’s not up to the merger agreement, it’s up to the judge. And it is a somewhat drastic remedy, forcing an unwilling buyer to pay $44 billion for a company that he doesn’t want. It is an “equitable” remedy, and a court will not order it unless “the balance of equities tips in favor of the party seeking performance.” If it feels unfair to a judge to order Musk to close, she’s not going to order him to close.

The fact that Musk has been acting in transparently bad faith all along — that he started this process by violating SEC disclosure rules, that he agreed to join Twitter’s board and then backed out of that agreement, that “bots” were the reason he wanted to buy Twitter before they became his excuse for getting out of the deal, that he has disparaged Twitter and its executives from the time he signed the deal, that he violated his nondisclosure obligations and then boasted about it on Twitter — these things are not all relevant as a legal matter (some of them are), but they are as an equitable matter. They make it clear that Musk does not care about contracts, that he ignores the law, that he will not live up to his word. The point is to make the judge angry at him, so that she will make him do what he promised to do.

I joked above about this case turning into a landmark Delaware Chancery Court decision, but honestly I don’t see it? We have not yet seen Musk’s reply, and perhaps I am missing something, but so far this case seems very simple to me. We talked yesterday about the DecoPac Holdings Inc. case, decided last year by Delaware Chancellor Kathaleen McCormick. A private equity buyer agreed to buy a company, the market went down, the buyer manufactured pretexts to get out of the deal and blow up its financing, and the target sued for specific performance. The buyer’s pretexts there were not as laughable as Musk’s here, and the buyer there did not go around tweeting about how gleefully it was violating the terms of the merger agreement, but the judge ordered it to close anyway. “This court has not hesitated to order specific performance in cases of this nature,” she wrote, and she didn’t.

But that case was a private equity firm buying a cake-decorating company from another private equity firm. The seller was economically motivated, and the buyer was economically motivated, and the market went down and they fought over who had to eat the loss. The buyer lost and had to close the deal, so now it owns the cake-decorating company. And presumably it will run it as well as it can, so that it can make as much money as possible decorating cakes. The buyer, a private equity firm, is not mad at the cakes; it is not going to smash them all out of pique. It’s just business.

This case is a little different. Musk did want to buy Twitter for some reason? I think?[5] It is possible that his reason was to make a lot of money, but he specifically disclaimed that, and his plans to make a lot of money seemed pretty half-baked. Instead his reasons for wanting to own Twitter were like … pique? Politics? Free speech? Getting more publicity for himself? Making the experience of using Twitter more pleasant for him personally? Fighting bots? Adding an edit button? Diversifying his meme-lord portfolio? Improving the fate of humanity?

Meanwhile Twitter’s board quickly agreed to sell because it wanted the money for shareholders. Back in the simpler times of earlier May, I was critical of this decision. I wrote:

A lot of people think of Twitter as a public utility, a public trust, “the town square,” a company with an important social mission that many of its users and employees and Elon Musk care about deeply. And its CEO and board of directors essentially can’t bring themselves to talk about it. When employees asked him about what was best for the company, Agrawal could talk only about the shareholders. Elon Musk is not at all embarrassed to say that Twitter has an important public mission, which is why he’s buying it. But its current management can’t say that, which is why they’re selling it.

I want to be clear here that I am not saying that it was a bad decision, for Twitter’s product or users, to sell to Elon Musk. I have no idea; that’s not the point. The point is that the board seems to have put almost no weight on these questions. (Except Jack Dorsey, who does seem to have thought that Musk would run Twitter better than he did, and who seems happy about the sale.) I have written this before, but the basic problem with Twitter’s management and board of directors seems to be that they do not care about Twitter, as a company or as a product, so they are left to care about shareholders. This seems bad for everyone, including shareholders.

Well but it’s worse now isn’t it? Back in May, at least some people thought that Elon Musk would be good for Twitter as a product, a company, a town square. Now he is on a very public mission to destroy Twitter, get rid of employees, drive away advertisers and spark regulatory investigations. He wants to “trash the company” and “disrupt its operations,” as Twitter’s own lawyers say, as they demand that he buy the company. Seems like a bad guy to own the company!

As a matter of shareholder value, Twitter’s efforts here are unassailable: If Musk is hellbent on destroying Twitter, he should really pay its current shareholders $54.20 per share in cash first. But if you think of Twitter as something other than a pot of cash for shareholders — if you care about its employees or its users or its public mission — then the last thing you would want would be for this guy to own it.

One can sympathize with Twitter co-founder Ev Williams. “I’m sure there are legal/fiduciary reasons” that the board has to push Musk to close, he tweeted. “But if I was still on the board, I’d be asking if we can just let this whole ugly episode blow over. Hopefully that’s the plan and this is ceremony.” I mean, no: The shareholders definitely want their $54.20 rather than nothing, and the board really does have to try hard to get it for them. Also it is bad to let Musk go around destroying public companies on a whim without any consequences; Twitter’s board has sort of a public-service obligation to try to make him pay. Still, Williams has a point. He co-founded Twitter, presumably he likes Twitter, and now Elon Musk is trying to destroy it, and Twitter’s board is trying to force him to follow through. What is the good outcome here?

You could imagine a fantasy solution. A judge orders Musk to close on the deal but put Twitter in a public trust where he can’t meddle with it (or tweet). A judge says “never mind the damages cap in the merger agreement, I’m awarding $40 billion of punitive damages.” Other dumb stuff. We talked on Monday about the realistic outcomes: The judge will let Musk off the hook for $1 billion (or less), or the judge will order him to close the deal and buy Twitter, or Musk and Twitter will settle for him buying Twitter at a lower price, or they’ll settle for him walking away at a higher price. The last of these seems the best to me — Twitter’s shareholders are compensated, Musk is held to his word, he doesn’t actually own Twitter — but it requires Musk to agree to settle. And to get him to settle, I do think Twitter needs to convince him that they will otherwise get specific performance and make him close the deal. Nobody wants that, I don’t think (I hope!), but they have to fight for it anyway.

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[1] Disclosure: Twitter’s lawyers include Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz. I worked there, uh, 15 years ago now. I suppose this creates an appearance of bias, but in my defense I have taken a pretty consistent line on the Musk/Twitter deal for months now, and they hired Wachtell on Friday.

[2] In particular, the merger agreement says that Twitter does not have to give Musk any information that would, in its “reasonable judgment,” “cause significant competitive harm to the Company or its Subsidiaries if the transactions contemplated by this Agreement are not consummated.” As Twitter’s lawyers point out: ”On May 27, 2022, Twitter responded by noting its weeks-long active engagement with Musk’s team and explaining that some of defendants’ requests sought disclosure of highly sensitive information and data that would be difficult to furnish and would expose Twitter to competitive harm if shared. After all, Musk had said he would do one of three things with Twitter: sit on its board, buy it, or build a competitor. He had already accepted and then rejected the first option, and was plotting a pretextual escape from the second. Musk’s third option — building a competitor to Twitter — remained.” It will be pretty insane if Musk gets out of his deal to buy Twitter and then builds a Twitter competitor.

[3] Technically what happened here is that the original draft of the merger agreement that Musk’s lawyers sent to Twitter “would have deemed the hiring and firing of an employee at the level of vice president or above a presumptive violation of the ordinary course covenant absent Musk’s consent,” Twitter’s lawyers crossed that out, and Musk agreed to the revised version. This is not *definitive proof* that Twitter was allowed to fire senior employees without his consent — Musk can still argue that firing these employees was not “in the ordinary course of business” — but it is helpful for Twitter that it was specifically negotiated.

[4] Hmm. A “misrepresentation”? A quarter is like 90 days, so daily sampling for 9,000 accounts per quarter would seem to be about 100 accounts per day. I can see his point here. Their point, though, is that he’s not supposed to disclose what they tell him publicly, and he’s especially not supposed to brag about breaching his confidentiality agreement.

[5] Maybe his plan all along was to pretend to buy Twitter, ruin its business and run away? That seems pretty far-fetched, but on the other hand Musk keeps tweeting memes suggesting that it’s true? That this was all a galaxy-brain plan to expose Twitter’s bot problem? Okay.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link

Weird that TSLA shares are up, you'd think the market would be concerned about him having to sell more shares

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link

Twitter will settle for less because they won't actually be able to get him to pay that much. He doesn't have $40+ billion sitting in bank accounts, and he doesn't have financing. And it's not that easy to just dump billions of dollars worth of Tesla stock in a short period of time.

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, July 13, 2022 12:33 PM (forty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

right. this seems like one of those "if you owe the bank $1000 you have a problem, if you owe the bank $100m then the bank has a problem" situations.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

i mean maybe the judge will let him off because hes a special rich person but the idea that he cannot pay is ludicrous

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

it’s funny that he wanted to buy twitter to fix its bot problem and now he says he won’t buy twitter because it has a bot problem ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link

He wanted to buy Twitter because he's a pampered rich-boy dickhead who's about 1/8 as smart as he and his cultists think he is, with an ego bigger than one of his rockets. And I must return to the idea that he's only "The Richest Man In The World!!!"(TM) on paper, because Tesla is grotesquely overvalued by Musk sycophants and "the market." If that balloon ever really pops, he'll be about as liquid as me.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link

ummm...what

Elon Musk's dad, 76, confirms secret second child — with his stepdaughter https://t.co/0ml4OmBPTD pic.twitter.com/sH0A4Hz6Hv

— Page Six (@PageSix) July 14, 2022

frogbs, Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:31 (one year ago) link

actually you know what mods just delete that post

frogbs, Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:31 (one year ago) link

The Musk patriarch, 76, welcomed the baby girl with Jana, 35, back in 2019 — but only confirmed the news on Wednesday, bragging to the Sun: “The only thing we are on Earth for is to reproduce.”

sounds like someone

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:32 (one year ago) link

xpost no, just delete Elon. t hx.

https://nighthawknews.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/john-huston-chinatown.jpg
"The Musk patriarch, 76 ..."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:36 (one year ago) link

It led to a bitter falling out between Errol and Elon, with the Tesla CEO furious that his father had impregnated his stepsister.

Ahh, so he does have some boundaries

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:36 (one year ago) link

Seems like the most likely explanation is just that he wanted to buy it but then the market turned and he felt like he was way overpaying so he backed out and looked for any excuse, one of them being the bot thing.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 14 July 2022 21:17 (one year ago) link

xp

Also that's fucking gross

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 14 July 2022 21:17 (one year ago) link

It led to a bitter falling out between Errol and Elon, with the Tesla CEO furious that his father had impregnated his stepsister.

So... Woody Elon

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 14 July 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link

ha!

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 14 July 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link

elon musk woody allen

About 1,270,000 results (0.49 seconds)

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 July 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link

I mean that's a little of an unfair joke, Elon is pretty clearly taking the anti-impregnating-your-stepdaughter side here

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 14 July 2022 22:08 (one year ago) link

I mean that's a little of an unfair joke, Elon is pretty clearly taking the anti-impregnating-your-stepdaughter side here

Only because he had likely been led to understand that she was off the table.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 14 July 2022 22:33 (one year ago) link

he has zero stepdaughters last I’ve checked, don’t know how we can ascertain his true stance

mh, Friday, 15 July 2022 04:53 (one year ago) link

Looking mighty vat-grown...

ayo fanboys, come pick up your mans pic.twitter.com/8tDeytQ8ln

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) July 18, 2022

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 18 July 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link

bodyshaming sucks

sean gramophone, Monday, 18 July 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

otm

Doctor Casino, Monday, 18 July 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link

Allergic Reaction - The FSAI announced the recall of a batch of Dunnes Stores White Sub Rolls because it was mispacked with Dunnes Stores Floury White Baps. The bap product contains milk and eggs which... Food Poisoning https://t.co/DpKDmRaGYp #allergicreaction pic.twitter.com/mX8rKGM9rJ

— Iwaspoisoned.com (@iwaspoisoned_) July 18, 2022

mh, Monday, 18 July 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link

lol the guy hosing him down

lag∞n, Monday, 18 July 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

good work if you can get it

Clay, Monday, 18 July 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link

"Moisten the front"

rob, Monday, 18 July 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

Fwiw the tweeter did say that it isn't okay to body shame people, but that for Elon Musk it is okay. And tbh, I agree.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Monday, 18 July 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link

Something about his shape in profile reminded me of something, and then I realized it was the disproportioned protagonist from Altered Beast:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/screen/full/7/1/6/160716.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 July 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

whiter shade of pale

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 18 July 2022 22:13 (one year ago) link

That's the part that amazed me. Not that he's fat — of course he's fat, he's a 52-year-old pothead. But he looks like he lives in a damp, lightless underground cave! I mean, does he dig the tunnels for the Boring Company himself?

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 18 July 2022 22:27 (one year ago) link

50% of my genes come from Scotland, 25% from Wales and 25% from wherever Russian Mennonites started out in Germany but even I'm not that pale.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 18 July 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link

kinda wish i had not a single follicle of body hair

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 18 July 2022 22:33 (one year ago) link

"A larval Baron Harkonnen" LOL

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 18 July 2022 22:36 (one year ago) link

grimes had sex multiple times with this person, quite alarming

— Hard Drum Will Never Die, But You Will (@caostrofia) July 18, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 18 July 2022 22:48 (one year ago) link

lol the guy hosing him down

― lag∞n, Monday, July 18, 2022 3:51 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ari Emmanuel!

jaymc, Monday, 18 July 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link

o shit lol

lag∞n, Monday, 18 July 2022 23:51 (one year ago) link

truly depraved people

lag∞n, Monday, 18 July 2022 23:51 (one year ago) link

oh god

mh, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 00:32 (one year ago) link

_lol the guy hosing him down

― lag∞n, Monday, July 18, 2022 3:51 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink_


Ari Emmanuel!


Don’t kink shame

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 00:48 (one year ago) link

based on those photos I'd say that Musk is definitely more than 5% butt

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 16:05 (one year ago) link

I'd say buy at 5%, because he's always going to be a bigger ass.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link

don't threaten me with a good time, business insider

Please. Please. I am begging God. pic.twitter.com/c4C2XR8NNG

— Zombie That Only Eats Cops (@MaxKnightley) July 19, 2022

built like a kit malthouse (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 09:50 (one year ago) link

they cant touch him he has studied the teachings of JOHN McAFEE

mark s, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 09:59 (one year ago) link

Someone said his torso looks like the result of taking steroids without doing any lifting.

Chris L, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 10:19 (one year ago) link

(The Twitter uptick is at least in part because the judge decided on a trial in October. Twitter had asked for September, Musk for February I think - both to set the framing that this a complicated matter requiring a lot of experts and discovery to determine an accurate bot count, and because his financing runs out in April)

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 10:59 (one year ago) link

The market clearly thinks he's going to pay more than the billion fee to get out of this, which I also think.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link

yeah the fact that the judge set the trial date early implies that his marketing powers do not extend to the delaware court of chancery

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link

Chancery does not fuck around with mergers, they move fast

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link

what is the over/under on how many times Elon shouts out "OBJECTION!" from his seat in the court room, like he's on Law and Order in a criminal trial

as a client he'd be stopped after the first in favour of counsel, please please PLEASE let him be representing himself lol

mark s, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

wont even be there too busy getting hosed down

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 17:00 (one year ago) link

yeah, might be the first case of a party testifying from low earth orbit

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

you know what the Cybertruck's shape makes sense to me now

frogbs, Thursday, 21 July 2022 02:59 (one year ago) link

lol

The amount of attention on me has gone supernova, which super sucks. Unfortunately, even trivial articles about me generate a lot of clicks :(

Will try my best to be heads down focused on doing useful things for civilization.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 25, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 25 July 2022 23:13 (one year ago) link

...like shutting up?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 July 2022 23:19 (one year ago) link

Only time he’s heads down focused is when he’s sucking his own dick.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 25 July 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

super sucking

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 00:35 (one year ago) link

The fucking frowny face what a dipshit loser this guy is

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 00:46 (one year ago) link

Like you’re the richest man on the planet with an army of sycophants who will defend literally everything you do and instead you’re crying on Twitter like a 9th grader who farted in class and got caught

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 00:48 (one year ago) link

Awwww poor widdle baby

Haven’t even had sex in ages (sigh)

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 25, 2022

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 00:55 (one year ago) link

Yeah but when Elon farts it creates so many clicks, it’s not like the other boys :(

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 00:56 (one year ago) link

"what if you gave an 18-year old incel $200 billion" is the worst episode of Black Mirror.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 00:59 (one year ago) link

An incel with kids all over town

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 01:54 (one year ago) link

that "boo-hoo everyone's paying attention to me and i hate it" bs is such transparent reverse psych/br'er rabbit dickery and i am much too clever to take the bait

CYANIDE MUKBANG (cat), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 21:52 (one year ago) link

o no! well at least the bait had the delicious flavor of empty schadenfreude

CYANIDE MUKBANG (cat), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link

the evil capitalist from 100 years ago with the top hat and cigar - at least that guy had some dignity. being ruled by a redditor is just fucking humiliating

Left, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link

"Haven't impregnated an subordinate in ages (sigh)"

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 22:33 (one year ago) link

He's bitching about the attention he's getting for having an affair with Nicole Shanahan, the wife of Sergei Brin.

In other words, this is all so much humblebragging. I hope his dick falls off.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 22:38 (one year ago) link

while he is obvs a huge attention whore i dont doubt he has regrets about some of his recent press, his q score has suffered

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 22:40 (one year ago) link

His p score remains on pin though (heyo)

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 23:24 (one year ago) link

lol that was supposed to be “point” that’s what I get for trying to be a smart ass while tipsy

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 23:24 (one year ago) link

I was joking at work yesterday that in this workplace, we don't talk about two things: Tesla stock, and how many children Elon Musk has at this point in time

both are just arbitrary numbers tbh

mh, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link

many people are following this

https://twitter.com/chancery_daily

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 28 July 2022 00:21 (one year ago) link

lmao compelling him to buy twitter would be a violation of his rights under the 13th amendment https://www.barrons.com/articles/twitter-musk-specific-performance-thirteenth-amendment-51659101363

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 29 July 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link

smh body shaming

Elon Musk's disdain for his dad probably just intensified, after the 76-year-old Musk patriarch essentially called his son fat and said he's not proud of him. https://t.co/VIuzOC5i7w

— TMZ (@TMZ) August 1, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 1 August 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link

finalFINAL202207311829.jpg pic.twitter.com/uV2Lc4XUoQ

— The Chancery Daily (@chancery_daily) July 31, 2022

mh, Monday, 1 August 2022 23:36 (one year ago) link

G’day @elonmusk, I’m a reporter at @abcnews that’s been covering the discovery of @SpaceX debris in Australia. Just wondering, is anyone from your team coming to collect it?
Here’s a pic of one of the pieces👇 pic.twitter.com/NcJeuigQzx

— Adriane Reardon (@adrianereardon) August 3, 2022



NOPE (2022)

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link

"Clearly this is not going to turn into a horrible diplomatic event”

sad crowd: “awwwww.”

Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 18:41 (one year ago) link

truly the billionaire we deserve

I hereby challenge @paraga to a public debate about the Twitter bot percentage.

Let him prove to the public that Twitter has <5% fake or spam daily users!

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) August 6, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 6 August 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link

i was just down at the gas station and overheard two guys (pickup truck owners) discussing twitters bot percentage, they both agreed it was probably more than five percent

lag∞n, Saturday, 6 August 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link

I hereby challenge Elon Musk to a debate that Tesla should accept Dogecoin for cars! :)

— Matt Wallace (@MattWallace888) August 6, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 6 August 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

how good are teslas pic.twitter.com/nPDUK9ZHik

— matt (@mattDCLXVI) August 5, 2022

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 6 August 2022 23:30 (one year ago) link

oop

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 August 2022 03:03 (one year ago) link

BREAKING: Elon Musk sells 3.3 million Tesla shares, worth over $4.3 billion.

— The Spectator Index (@spectatorindex) August 10, 2022

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 01:42 (one year ago) link

"worth"

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 01:43 (one year ago) link

*MUSK SELLS AT LEAST 7.92M TESLA SHARES WORTH $6.89B: FILINGS

(yes it is Tuesday)

— Sean O'Kane (@sokane1) August 10, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 02:20 (one year ago) link

It’s 2022, and Teslas still aren’t stopping for children. pic.twitter.com/GGBh6sAYZS

— Taylor Ogan (@TaylorOgan) August 9, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 02:43 (one year ago) link

This looks like it's worth a read

“Elon Musk admitted to his biographer that the reason the Hyperloop was announced—even tho he had no intention of pursuing it—was to try to disrupt the California high-speed rail project to get in the way of that actually succeeding.” — @ParisMarx @Gizmodo https://t.co/qj5WyO4oGR

— Brent Toderian (@BrentToderian) August 10, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 09:17 (one year ago) link

the guy who will save the environment

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 12:20 (one year ago) link

Is there anyone in the Bay Area with a child who can run in front of my car on Full Self-Driving Beta to make a point? I promise I won't run them over... (will disengage if needed)

(this is a serious request)

— Whole Mars Catalog (@WholeMarsBlog) August 9, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

Lmao

Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

Narrator: He did not make a point.

President Keyes, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

Parody so good you can't tell it's parody

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

2016: the revolutionary $35,000 Tesla Model 3 is going to bring EV ownership within reach of the mass market, making zero-emission mobility truly affordable.

2022: the average Tesla costs over $13k more than the average Lexus, and roughly the same amount as a Mercedes or BMW. pic.twitter.com/U2osrEoAoA

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) August 16, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

Grimes Announces Plans To Get Vampire Teeth, Elf Ears

https://www.stereogum.com/2196423/grimes-announces-plans-to-get-vampire-teeth-elf-ears/news/

exciting time to be alive

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link

elon: hark my elf my little nightwalker
grimes: hello

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

She doesn’t have them already?

President Keyes, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 00:42 (one year ago) link

Guess i should have read the first sentence

President Keyes, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link

Grimes X Mortiis collab when

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 17 August 2022 00:46 (one year ago) link

Lmao man utd truly the Twitter of football, he has a type

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 17 August 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

Congrats to the five people in the purple circle—which I believe is empty by 2020. You have the support of Elon Musk.

Should be really good for fundraising purposes! Not a lot of competition.

(Map is ideological overlap in Congress from here: https://t.co/UXPWTwcx7z) https://t.co/6y4w3cN3zZ pic.twitter.com/C1gSUyY8Se

— John Pfaff (@JohnFPfaff) August 17, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link

Also, I’m buying Manchester United ur welcome

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) August 17, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link

wait what

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 17 August 2022 01:14 (one year ago) link

^^^^

thinkmanship (sleeve), Wednesday, 17 August 2022 01:15 (one year ago) link

you gotta tip your cap lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 01:24 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk has (jokingly?) said he is buying Manchester United.

But $MANU is traded. Here's where it gets weird.$MANU gets 0 options activity. Two days ago, someone did 450k, sustained volume, in $14 calls expiring 31 days, 3500% increase in volume.

Planned joke on markets? pic.twitter.com/oYX4iLRyaq

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) August 17, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 02:00 (one year ago) link

elon musk: what the heck is goin on

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 17 August 2022 02:05 (one year ago) link

as usual I suspect the answer is "too much coke"

thinkmanship (sleeve), Wednesday, 17 August 2022 02:44 (one year ago) link

lmao did he just hype up a pump and dump again

mh, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 12:40 (one year ago) link

This is what he's reduced to when the drugs don't work anymore.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 18 August 2022 21:31 (one year ago) link

Alternately: this is basically drugs when yr a billionaire

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 August 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link

why go to mars when you could buy your own offshore research pharmaceutical lab to cook up something that makes you think you've reached mars, is my take

mh, Thursday, 18 August 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link

That is kind of the plot of a couple of PK Dick stories.

earlnash, Friday, 19 August 2022 01:07 (one year ago) link

otm

mh, Friday, 19 August 2022 03:26 (one year ago) link

if PDK were around today I bet twitter would hate him

President Keyes, Friday, 19 August 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link

Philip D Kick

symsymsym, Friday, 19 August 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link

Many A+ comments

Cybertruck is truly mind blowing in person. This will be the best product by Tesla so far. @elonmusk pic.twitter.com/f4BCTuJa4W

— Tesla Owners Silicon Valley (@teslaownersSV) August 21, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 August 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link

in the spirit of 2022, the era of just being dumb, i am doubling down and slightly distorting my previous approval of the cybertruk concept and now say that yes, sometimes things can be so bad that they are good, and that's what i meant all along

Karl Malone, Monday, 22 August 2022 00:51 (one year ago) link

That’s what I don’t understand. When I see an H1 go down the road I don’t think OMG that car is SO SEXY and BEAUTIFUL!

It’s not a girls car…

When I see an H1 or the CT I think wow that’s badass!!! 🔥🔥🔥

What’s with dudes trying to make there trucks look pretty?

— Jason Bridges (@Jason_lloydd) August 21, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 22 August 2022 01:17 (one year ago) link

there’s a guy with a healthy collection of truck nuts

packed plastic baskets (cat), Monday, 22 August 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link

only fifteen thousand us dollars to unlock the feature that lets you chill out while yr tesla autonomously mows down children, cyclists, animals and more

Elon Musk is jacking up the price of Tesla’s unfinished autonomous vehicle software yet again, an added feature that itself is starting to approach the cost of a typical small hatchback. https://t.co/xI8kRRlhh4

— FORTUNE (@FortuneMagazine) August 22, 2022

manic pixie dream shatner (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 August 2022 13:45 (one year ago) link

guy is absolutely relentless in fleecing his marks, such distain

lag∞n, Monday, 22 August 2022 13:49 (one year ago) link

That photo there makes him look like a Bond villain.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 22 August 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link

and rightly so

manic pixie dream shatner (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 August 2022 14:07 (one year ago) link

Bond villain or, I dunno, asshole conductor who stopped the performance because someone was talking.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 August 2022 14:12 (one year ago) link

A conductor who is legendary for his temper tantrums but can't conduct his way out of a paper bag.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 22 August 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link

careful or you might ink a show deal with amazon

look like Farley smoke like Marley (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 22 August 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link

Would watch. Unless you are actually describing the premise of "Mozart in the Jungle," in which case, did not watch.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 August 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link

(still laughing at this one)

When the Moon Patrol buggy fucked the Peavey logo. https://t.co/Peyjx6v43i

— steve albini (@electricalWSOP) August 22, 2022

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 22 August 2022 20:22 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/qECQXkl5TE

— blaine capatch (@blainecapatch) August 22, 2022

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 22 August 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link

I think these two might buy it pic.twitter.com/Muf6bAbPd5

— Tin Foil Awards (@TinFoilAwards) August 21, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 August 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

I guess I've always labored under the misapprehension that vehicles in post-apocalyptic cinema looked that way out of practical necessity (limited materials available, must be able to cross the wastelands without being hopelessly ravaged by mutants, etc.) when I guess everyone just looted the warehouses upon warehouses filled with unsold Cybertrucks.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 August 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link

Tesla Steering Yokes Are Disintegrating Before 30,000 Miles

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 25 August 2022 01:04 (one year ago) link

probably just the Andromeda Strain mutating again, def nothing wrong with Tesla's scientific and product engineering genius

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 25 August 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link

we made the shittiest possible steering wheel but dont worry its broken

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 August 2022 01:08 (one year ago) link

Still not sure how the yoke complies with regulations

Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 25 August 2022 01:39 (one year ago) link

JFC

A variety of theories have been put forth by the Twitter community to explain the issue. Many posters quickly turned on the owners, accusing them of causing the problems through their personal vices.

Meet Kevin was facetiously accused of spilling beer in the interior, with a Twitter user hunting down a mugshot from his DUI arrest. Posters scrutinized images and criticized jf.okay in particular for excessive fingernail pressure on the yoke. Others spuriously asserted that excessive alcohol consumption could cause the problem via ethanol leaching out of the skin. Less cutting theories put the blame on hand sanitizers or lotions degrading the coating on the yoke.

sleeve, Thursday, 25 August 2022 02:47 (one year ago) link

I forgot that Teslas have a fucking YOKE steering apparatus. I feel like that’s a tidy micro summary of everything that’s wrong with this dude’s hubristic “engineering genius”.

circa1916, Thursday, 25 August 2022 04:20 (one year ago) link

More like Yeet steering, am I right?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 August 2022 12:29 (one year ago) link

excessive alcohol consumption could cause the problem via ethanol leaching out of the skin

lol these fuckin' nerds and the mental gymnastics to defend their god king Musk

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 August 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link

Imagine being so drunk all the time that you can literally dissolve plastics with your hands.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 August 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

I just call that "Friday"

sleeve, Thursday, 25 August 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link

I have had a tendency to wear down car trim just by my touch.

In the first case, it was the passenger "oh shit bar" on an ex-girlfriend's brand-new Subaru, which I had caused noticeable erosion on after just a few months of being her only semi-regular passenger.

In my own car, I wore down the steering wheel padding all the way down to the base plastic. This took several years of use as a daily driver. It took me a while before I noticed it was visibly wearing away, so I'm not sure when it started.

Also, I may have been more drunk than not during the time periods of greatest wear. Unknown if this is relevant.

Anyone else notice this in your non-Tesla cars? Not to apologize for Musk or anything.

peace, man, Thursday, 25 August 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link

I mean, there is some noticeable wear marks on the steering wheel and arm rest on the car I've driven for 10 years, but absolutely nothing I would consider actual "erosion".

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 August 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

the humorous minutiae people pretend to give a fuck about when defending their cult leader.

i bet that nerd had never even thought the words "fingernail pressure" in the same sentence before until his tweet.

Toonie Orlando (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 August 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

wouldn't be talking about other people "squeezing too hard" bro

You must be squeezing too hard. Slow down and you won't have this issue. 😉

— kobiyashi.eth 🥷🍔🔺🐵 (@kobiyashi_eth) August 23, 2022

Toonie Orlando (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 August 2022 19:31 (one year ago) link

This is being nit picky.

— Brent Ericson 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 (@brent_ericson) August 24, 2022

Toonie Orlando (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 August 2022 19:34 (one year ago) link

spinaltap.jpg

Toonie Orlando (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 August 2022 19:35 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbBNet6UUAED5oE?format=jpg&name=large

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 August 2022 21:42 (one year ago) link

lol the guy who says "that happens to all cars" is a suspended account now

and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 August 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link

Here, you take the wheel.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 25 August 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link

some dumbass in that (two year old) thread also posted articles of other cars recalled for steering wheel "coming off" issues to point out that it happens to other cars, but it's like, no, you moron, THOSE CALLS WERE RECALLED, Tesla wasn't!

and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 August 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link

*cars

and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 August 2022 21:49 (one year ago) link

There is a Permanently Attached luxury steering wheel option, just add $4400 to the MSRP

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 August 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link

This just gets better... Teslas Can Be Tricked Into Stopping Too Early by Bigger Stop Signs

Twitter user Cowcumber discovered this when their Tesla came to a stop significantly shorter than it should have, but only on particular exit ramps. After pondering the problem, Cowcumber noticed that stop signs on exit ramps appeared to be larger than signs in their neighborhood, so they broke out a tape measure to confirm.

As they suspected, the stop sign on the exit ramp is, in fact, significantly larger. Many of these signs measure just over 48 inches tall, which is around 60 percent larger than the 30-inch signs in their neighborhood.

"60 percent larger to the camera gets interpreted as 60 percent closer?" asks the Tesla owner on Twitter. "I still have the slow creep problem here [...] and it'll come to a complete stop while sitting in the near lanes even if no cars are around!"

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 27 August 2022 02:22 (one year ago) link

It's Friday, so .. more #TeslaFireIssues updates in this ongoing Tesla 'safety' thread

Example no. 346: a controlled test, at low speed

Remember what I said about a Tesla scraping the sides or bottom. And your Tesla is .. (well, you know, 20x or 30x more often than other EV's) pic.twitter.com/mwNHn4OEYE

— Ton Aarts (@ton_aarts) August 26, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 28 August 2022 12:33 (one year ago) link

Controlled test ... did they set off the explosion/fire, too?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 August 2022 12:52 (one year ago) link

youll just have to "do your own research"

lag∞n, Sunday, 28 August 2022 12:56 (one year ago) link

I guess it looks like it just blew up, then. Sounds about right.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 August 2022 13:49 (one year ago) link

you can read the thread if you want

lag∞n, Sunday, 28 August 2022 14:08 (one year ago) link

i talked to the village tesla doctor, and they told me that if the car catches on fire when it's upside down, stop making it go upside down

i proceeded to tell some ruffians around the corner to kick this doctor's ass for me

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 August 2022 14:11 (one year ago) link

you dont understand teslas only catch on fire when theyre very upset

lag∞n, Sunday, 28 August 2022 14:14 (one year ago) link

"tesla, take me downtown"
"ok, i'll take you upside-down"

*immediate fire death*

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 August 2022 14:16 (one year ago) link

me: ok i will just open the door and get out
tesla: no lol

lag∞n, Sunday, 28 August 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link

tesla, i don't want to die
ok, you're gonna die though

*doors lock*

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 August 2022 14:19 (one year ago) link

telsa please let me out
im kind of busy right now (being on fire)

lag∞n, Sunday, 28 August 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I did read the thread. At first I thought they were *trying* to make it blow up, to show how easy it was. Instead I guess they were mostly trying to make it go upside down and get scratched, which in turn showed how easy it was to blow up.

Had a conversation with a friend the other day who is convinced self-driving cars are absolutely happening. He's not a Tesla/Musk stan, he just thinks it's inevitable. My counter was that it couldn't happen on a mass scale because there are just too many uncontrollable variables to account for, and as a counter tried to think of a single autonomous, untethered, easily lethal machine we regularly encounter and I came up with nada. Elevators could kill you, but they're on a track. Same with trains. But self-driving cars everywhere would be like swimming with sharks. You just never know which one is going to get you. Especially if you dress as a tiny stop sign and it thinks you are farther away than you really are.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 August 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link

basically no one who works on autonomous vehicle tech thinks that full autonomy is happening any time soon if at all, and these are mostly people who thought they were close ten years ago, there has however been a lot of progress made in autonomous safety features lane assist auto breaking adaptive cruise control and so forth, of course when you take that stuff and market it as self driving it becomes not safe

lag∞n, Sunday, 28 August 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link

Oh, wait, looking a bit more I guess the fire was faked/triggered? Can't vouch, but I found some translated German article:

"For safety reasons, it was not possible to ignite a real battery fire at an event with around 500 people, which is why a fire with pyrotechnics was staged," said the Axa press office in Cologne at the request of 24auto.de: "We wanted to use the fire the accident researchers: on the one hand point out the danger of a cell fire, which can result from damage to the underside of the electric car, and on the other hand point out the problems with fires in electric vehicles."

Anyway, looks like the Tesla has eclipsed the Pinto for number of people dying in fires. Interesting, found a couple of random articles comparing the two cars almost a decade ago!

https://qz.com/146604/why-tesla-doesnt-have-a-pinto-problem-with-its-car-fires-yet/

https://greenerideal.com/news/vehicles/0331-whats-difference-ford-pinto-tesla-s-much-really/

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 August 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link

thats dumb just have the 500 people stand back a bit whats the big deal

lag∞n, Sunday, 28 August 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link

"Goggles on, everyone!"

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 August 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

a safety issue with evs in general is fast acceleration of a very heavy car is not a great combo

lag∞n, Sunday, 28 August 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link

saw a review of a hyundai ioniq where the guy was just lighting up its tires and giggling about it, they basically built a volkswagen tiguan with the power of a porsche macan

lag∞n, Sunday, 28 August 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link

even something like the tesla plaid x which is more designed to be a performance car im sure you could absolutely destroy its suspension and what not if you consistently floored it

lag∞n, Sunday, 28 August 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link

the instant torque of evs is a perfect just because you can doesnt mean you should situation, and then considering the weight of the batteries you probably just shouldnt, most people dont even care about that stuff, let them buy performance cars if they do

lag∞n, Sunday, 28 August 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link

lol I didn't even know this existed:

https://shop.tesla.com/product/cyberquad-for-kids

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 August 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link

thats very silly

lag∞n, Sunday, 28 August 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link

me: tesla, we've not been to the dairy bar in a while and...
tesla: There's nothing. I know. Have a good journey, Mr. Weyland.

look like Farley smoke like Marley (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 28 August 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link

lmao

So, this is how well things are going in Norway for Tesla Owners...https://t.co/3rM9EBPovu

— CommonSenseSkeptic (@C_S_Skeptic) August 29, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

The car won't start in cold weather

Intense squeaking noise

Car won't start in warm weather

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

the three bullet separation between cold weather and warm weather is killing me

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

You have to wait on the phone for a long time before Tesla answers

Oh come on. Ever called, like, anyone? Join the club, Norwegians.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

lol I didn't even know this existed:

https://shop.tesla.com/product/cyberquad-for-kids

― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, August 28, 2022 10:37 AM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

my brother got a Model 3 one for my son which Tesla gave him as a “gift” for buying 2 real ones. It hasn’t started on fire yet but it did have a lot of weird issues with the electrical components and the steering wheel popped off. It also gets stuck on anything that’s not concrete, which sucks because kids love to off road these things. After a year (which ain’t much because in Wisconsin you can only really use the thing for 6 months max) one of the axles broke. The only good thing I can say is it was pretty fast (6 mph) but even that is obnoxious because the parents have to follow along.

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

followed the link. "This item is out of stock"

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

i don't mind stealing bread
from the mouths of Pretorians

and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 22:29 (one year ago) link

Mojave Desert to Tesla drivers: "send more cars!"

slightly worried this Tesla seems to have had BeamNG installed https://t.co/eLFpvMy2eT

— Hazel Southwell (@HSouthwellFE) August 29, 2022

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 23:30 (one year ago) link

the desert attempting to reclaim its lithium

mh, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

Another problem with steering non-wheels that can only be held in one exact place:

https://www.thedrive.com/news/tesla-steering-yokes-are-disintegrating-before-30000-miles

...and of removing all buttons, knobs, and levers for the driver to use:

https://cleantechnica.com/2022/08/31/the-danger-of-removing-all-buttons-knobs-levers/

Lee626, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link

this seems like the ball game?

Twitter:

May 8th, Musk to Morgan Stanley: "let's slow down just a few days ... it won't make sense to buy Twitter if we are heading into World War 3"

177/

— The Chancery Daily (@chancery_daily) September 6, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 21:21 (one year ago) link

whats he talking about re ww3

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link

Bad idea: "Let's go race our Tesla at 100mph+ in the middle of the night on the Bonneville Salt Flats" https://t.co/PvpANPqCge

— AI6YR (@ai6yrham) September 6, 2022

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link

xp withdrawing from the deal for a reason unrelated to his claimed reason for backing out and certainly unrelated to the scope merger agreement

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link

what does he mean by ww3 tho like actual world war three

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 23:34 (one year ago) link

Ukraine, I’m guessing

You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link

Lol that was a text from Musk to Mr. Grimes

You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link

Oh, I belime

look like Farley smoke like Marley (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 00:54 (one year ago) link

Ukraine, I’m guessing

― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:39 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

thought the same but musks initial offer to buy twitter came after the war started, which is not to say he couldnt have just gotten the idea at some point that now its going to be ww3, but also he could just be talking about something else

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 01:04 (one year ago) link

some sort of figurative world war three, or maybe a secret world war three, idk

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 01:05 (one year ago) link

The text before the WWIII one said, “Putin is speaking tomorrow”

You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 01:33 (one year ago) link

putin is going to announce ww3 tomorrow better not buy twitter, a thing we all think from time to time

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 02:13 (one year ago) link

I’m pretty sure idiots going fast in the desert after dark has caused a lot of casualties really re: salt flats

mh, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 04:31 (one year ago) link

Nah, normal cars are invincible in desert conditions

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 13:34 (one year ago) link

i took my 2002 audi a4 avant on there but it was kind of wet and gummy did not reach max speed had to hose it down after for sure, that was during the day tho

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 13:51 (one year ago) link

I know nothing about the salt flats but How much salt is in the dust i should think that would be corrosive as fuck without super washout and cleaning

i'm intentionally vague, intending to front multitudes (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

driving out onto the salt flats is fun. best to be careful about where though, some areas are wetter than others and blocked by embankments. the north side between mm 15 and 20, west of the "tree of life" is generally ok, although i see after having driven out that way yesterday that they have put up little fences on the side of the freeway in that section.

(grim) pump track (wales) (map), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 20:24 (one year ago) link

I think they steam treat certain tracks when they're trying for a speed record... as noted earlier, they can be pretty slushy, like walking on rock salt

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link

lol

Not only has Tesla's strict return-to-office policy damaged morale but the company lacks resources to house everyone: shortage of chairs, desk space, parking spots, dongles, charging cords, phone booths and conference rooms. https://t.co/zvgY86QIqM

— Amy Diehl, Ph.D. (@amydiehl) September 15, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 September 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link

Musk is more than enough dongle for the whole place.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 September 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

Musk himself is a dingle

i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 September 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

Elon's college girlfriend from Penn just auctioned off a bunch of old photos of him, a birthday card, and a necklace he gave her:

https://www.rrauction.com/search/results/?lot=&str=elon%20musk&exclude=&cat=0&sort=time&auctions=0&view=gallery&page=1&itemQty=96&catalogLotNumber=&cp=past-auctions&searchType=title

o. nate, Thursday, 15 September 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

im goin g to buy them

mark s, Thursday, 15 September 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link

i dont understand why someone would pay thousands of dollars for these snapshots, is there a businessman collectables market

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 September 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

Here's a handkerchief that Elon blew into and never washed. I'll start the bidding at 50,000

i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 September 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link

Yeah, it's baffling. Almost makes me wonder if Elon bought them himself. xp

o. nate, Thursday, 15 September 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link

get his dna, clone him, set up permanent dunk tank, PROFIT

DPRK in Cincinnati (WmC), Thursday, 15 September 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

good for her

mh, Friday, 16 September 2022 03:17 (one year ago) link

it make a pinch

Tesla is recalling nearly 1.1 million vehicles in the U.S. because the windows can pinch a person's fingers when being rolled up. https://t.co/PBT06Hrh6Q

— The Associated Press (@AP) September 22, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 September 2022 12:56 (one year ago) link

haven't worked out the kinks in the self-rolling windows

i need to put some clouds behind the reaper (PBKR), Thursday, 22 September 2022 13:22 (one year ago) link

I'm sure it's fine

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 22 September 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link

lmao

This is the third time my Tesla is getting recalled in just the last year. Getting sick of this shit. I'm sorry @Tesla your cars are amazing but this is not acceptable. If this happens 3 more times I will have to consider trading it in for a different Tesla model

— Wild Geerters (@steinkobbe) September 22, 2022

frogbs, Thursday, 22 September 2022 13:28 (one year ago) link

this is your fourth-to-last chance tesla

rob, Thursday, 22 September 2022 13:29 (one year ago) link

Is the pinch really more of a priority than the exploding thing? I’m not a driver so maybe one of you can explain idk

barry sito (gyac), Thursday, 22 September 2022 13:33 (one year ago) link

Surprised Musk didn't make them add a cartoon noise when your finger gets caught in the window. "Booiiiiinnnng!" or whatever.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 September 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link

Seems to suggest that at least one person has actually had their fingers cut off.

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 22 September 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link

Is the pinch really more of a priority than the exploding thing? I’m not a driver so maybe one of you can explain idk

― barry sito (gyac), Thursday, September 22, 2022 9:33 AM (sixteen minutes ago)

everyone who buys tesla does so to satisfy the death drive, mere pinches don't go far enough, is how I break it down

rob, Thursday, 22 September 2022 13:50 (one year ago) link

Maybe the windows of other cars just don't pinch enough.

i need to put some clouds behind the reaper (PBKR), Thursday, 22 September 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link

been seeing articles about techbros that "want to grow inches" and it's naturally going to take some pinches

put their faith in a god-fearing man selling them tiny homes (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 22 September 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link

Lol what pic.twitter.com/ARiJIZty0i

— Carboniferous Rainforest Collapse Party (@weathergoose1) September 23, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 23 September 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

Thought car windows had been figured out long ago, but I guess we gotta disrupt everything nowadays

Vinnie, Friday, 23 September 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link

this man loves to lie

Cybertruck will be waterproof enough to serve briefly as a boat, so it can cross rivers, lakes & even seas that aren’t too choppy

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) September 29, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 29 September 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

love that "briefly" followed a few words later by it crossing "seas"

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 29 September 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

All cars can serve briefly as boats. Very briefly.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 September 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

!! pic.twitter.com/y6QX5JyAds

— Udit Kumar (@itzme_udit) September 29, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 September 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

*dies at sea in a car*

tesla boys: that sea was too choppy

Karl Malone, Thursday, 29 September 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/A2BLNdW.png

Karl Malone, Thursday, 29 September 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

you make fun of him but this seems like a brilliant solution to the "car keeps lighting on fire" problem

frogbs, Thursday, 29 September 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link

Cybertruck will be waterproof enough to serve briefly as a boat, and also fireproof, if it serves briefly as a boat.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 September 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

announcing the new CyberTorus

https://i.imgur.com/D29CydT.png

it can bounce along most rivers and water passageways and holds 2 insecure barfing passengers

Karl Malone, Thursday, 29 September 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

What is there to protect your ass from rocks?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 September 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

the idea is that what the torus shape lacks in specificity of function, it overcomes in adaptability and resilience.

https://i.imgur.com/DXLhmyI.png

this group of barges is in a severe river traffic jam. months of FTEs will be wasted on this single problem during intense meetings and intrafleet negotiations.

meanwhile, the tori float on in an unstoppable horde, bouncing off of the bureaucratic red tape and winning the industrial race together

Karl Malone, Thursday, 29 September 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

xp josh according to leaked concept footage, the passengers ride inside of the cybertorus. for safety, there are no windows so you can't see them from outside. but they're in there, two of them in each, strapped in.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 29 September 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

Ah, that makes sense. I initially confused them for Innertubes (TM).

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 September 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

an innertube commuting corridor is not actually a terrible idea. luckily climate change will make it inevitable

rob, Thursday, 29 September 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link

announcing the new CyberTorus

Ford just announced the CyberTaurus

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 September 2022 19:08 (one year ago) link

Our derelict vessel crews are begging you to understand that anything that “serves briefly as a boat” should not be used as a boat https://t.co/lcrunbf1DJ pic.twitter.com/j2eL5tGcJZ

— Washington State Dept. of Natural Resources (@waDNR) September 29, 2022

lol

o. nate, Friday, 30 September 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link

when we stop economy-crippling regulatory agencies from fucking with our freedoms we can have truck boats, libs.

i'm intentionally vague, intending to front multitudes (Hunt3r), Friday, 30 September 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link

sorry ass shit

who shows up in Musk's texts is interesting (right wingers, reactionaries, tech & media billionaires, etc.). their eagerness to get in on a deal that would generate money & influence makes sense. but it was surprising seeing so many of them grovelhttps://t.co/zAHMhE9J5P

— Edward Ongweso Jr (@bigblackjacobin) September 30, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 30 September 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link

pretty funny that a couple dudes who always sound like little worms actually are little worms

mh, Friday, 30 September 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

living that worm life

lag∞n, Friday, 30 September 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link

that Calac4nis dude, damn

mh, Friday, 30 September 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link

lol, the sloppy copy editing of this Vice piece means that that dude's name is spelled like 3 different ways throughout the article, too.

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Friday, 30 September 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link

You have my sword

circa1916, Friday, 30 September 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

The body language of the actual Tesla team while Musk makes astronomical promises will never not be funny. https://t.co/WaRuC5tr7U

— Justin Pierce (@justinpie) September 29, 2022

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 30 September 2022 23:24 (one year ago) link

very neat

JUST IN: Tesla, $TSLA officially unveils AI bot 'Optimus'

pic.twitter.com/OTyryDdkwQ

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) October 1, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 1 October 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

sorry ass shit

🐦[who shows up in Musk’s texts is interesting (right wingers, reactionaries, tech & media billionaires, etc.). their eagerness to get in on a deal that would generate money & influence makes sense. but it was surprising seeing so many of them grovelhttps://t.co/zAHMhE9J5P🕸
— Edward Ongweso Jr (@bigblackjacobin) September 30, 2022🕸]🐦


His brother lolllll 🤠

barry sito (gyac), Saturday, 1 October 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link

In some ways, Musk could not have chosen a better name for his company. How long before they announce a "Peace Ray"?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 1 October 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

Really despise Jack Dorsey as ever, always great to see evidence he’s a fucking idiot. That text about how freedom of speech on Twitter is important to humanity - k.

barry sito (gyac), Saturday, 1 October 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

Just another douchebag techbro.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 1 October 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

people at twitter hate jack more than elon musk. just total contempt.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 1 October 2022 22:22 (one year ago) link

Where's Sarah Connor when you need her?

i need to put some clouds behind the reaper (PBKR), Saturday, 1 October 2022 22:27 (one year ago) link

Is he unaware that there is already a very famous robot named "Optimus"? This will have to be Optimus Secundus.

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Sunday, 2 October 2022 05:13 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/eGxU1jR.png

lag∞n, Monday, 3 October 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

Which @elonmusk do you like more?

— Володимир Зеленський (@ZelenskyyUa) October 3, 2022

what is going on

death generator (lukas), Monday, 3 October 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

ha the no vote is up to 60%+ and now hes putting out new polls

Let’s try this then: the will of the people who live in the Donbas & Crimea should decide whether they’re part of Russia or Ukraine

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 3, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 3 October 2022 19:31 (one year ago) link

Engineers know the value of a well-designed poll

Karl Malone, Monday, 3 October 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

Is he trying to get Russian oligarchs to buy Teslas instead of armored G-wagons?

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 3 October 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

i think he resents the disruption being caused to his businesses and would like the war to stop asap on those grounds regardless of the goals of the combatants

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 3 October 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link

lmao, sure does seem like he wants his politics to be a thing people think about.

Ukraine's ambassador lashes out at Elon Musk's peace proposal, telling him to "fuck off" and saying no Ukrainian will buy his "Tesla crap" pic.twitter.com/egrhbA3rEA

— BNO News (@BNONews) October 3, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 3 October 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link

elon could spend his every waking hour having his dumb half ass ideas feted if he would simply stay off twitter, but he just will not

lag∞n, Monday, 3 October 2022 21:08 (one year ago) link

just keeps picking incredibly divisive issues to associate his implausibly successful businesses with

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 3 October 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link

what could go wrong

lag∞n, Monday, 3 October 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link

he could have a group chat with titans of industry and various hangers on where they just confirm the hell out of each other

lag∞n, Monday, 3 October 2022 21:14 (one year ago) link

im sure andrew ross sorkin would be happy to tell him hes good at geopolitics

lag∞n, Monday, 3 October 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

I’m trying to imagine the alt universe where Henry Ford tweets bad takes on how to settle peace Europe, and is subtweeted by de Gaulle (with a poll) and members of Hitler’s government (with snark).

— Heather Adkins - Ꜻ - Spes consilium non est (@argvee) October 4, 2022

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 06:47 (one year ago) link

TRADING HALT: TWTR (NYSE)-NEWS PENDING

— Tom Hearden (@followtheh) October 4, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link

lol?

BREAKING: Elon Musk is expected to propose that the Twitter deal proceed at the original $54.20 per share price $TWTR

— Kurt Wagner (@KurtWagner8) October 4, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link

a truly avant garde business process

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link

agree to buy a company for more than its worth then proceed to damage it as much as you can before closing, simply beyond the ability of normal minds to comprehend

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

he needs to clear this twitter deal so that he can concentrate on peace in ukraine

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

simply flood the war zone with verified posters

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

This guy is so ridiculous I bet he builds a giant warehouse of his stupid janky humanoid robots dedicated to sitting at terminals and posting to twitter, just to stick it to ... someone. For the dank lols (or whatever people say).

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

maybe he got some of his boys on the text chain in on the deal. want to join the game? 5B would be a decent buy-in. 10B would be better, should be fun

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

easy monetization opportunity $5 subscription a button appears on each tweet that lets you kill the poster

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link

turns out Agrawal has been clicking "I'll do it later" for months on the daily "delete all bots now?" pop-up

rob, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link

I'll believe this when I see it

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

I'm guessing the Delaware chancery court decision is nearing its release.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link

the trial hasnt even started yet lol, what happened was elon decided he wanted to buy twitter again, for whatever reason

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

the Tesla robot leaned over the other day and whispered “hey man you gotta buy twitter”

Clay, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

He wants to give Ukraine a good kicking.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 18:41 (one year ago) link

Or maybe he wanted to buy it all along but just threatened to back out in order to get a lower price. When the bluff was called he folded.

o. nate, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

i think he wanted to buy it then he didnt now he does again, or at least he wants to buy it more than he wants his other options, worth noting that all those embarrassing texts were just released and there was prob a bunch more embarrassing info to come if the trial went forward

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

this is a bad deal for him and really the whole world, with the possible exception of twitter shareholders

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link

contingent on trial being adjourned

he's dropping $48b not to have more DMs read out lol

mark s, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

i wonder if the relative slaps on the wrist and unenforceable SEC settlements musk has received so far makes him think he’s untouchable legally

🐦[Argentinian TV cracking open the bubbly live on air has done me in pic.twitter.com/KzpCVTJbYr🕸
— oli (@olicoulsxn) September 8, 2022🕸]🐦
the trial hasnt even started yet lol, what happened was elon decided he wanted to buy twitter again, for whatever reason


its because he’s getting close to trial where he knows he’ll lose… giant game of chicken and elon blinked first (because he’s weak)

, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

also dumb

mark s, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:08 (one year ago) link

idk maybe seeing all those texts resurface reminded him of how uh..."fun" it would be to own Twitter

frogbs, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link

feel like theres a non zero chance that offering to buy the company again is also some insane ploy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

also dumb

― mark s, Tuesday, October 4, 2022 4:08 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

and ugly, smells bad, wears dumb leather jackets trying to be cool

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

correct

mark s, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

whoa there was a bunch of stuff in my post that i had typed up but never posted from a few months ago, guess zing just saved it…

, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link

thats evidence now

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link

he is simply creating x

Buying Twitter is an accelerant to creating X, the everything app

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 4, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link

I love it

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 23:31 (one year ago) link

i think a lot of us love it

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 23:31 (one year ago) link

what's up with me? oh not a lot, just creating X

Clay, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link

its great

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link

i love x

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 23:35 (one year ago) link

wait

if we can get the tesla fans to start thinking 'I love X", ILX, etc, let that simmer for a few years...THEN we reveal ilxor.com and go premium/public

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 23:35 (one year ago) link

one of the big selling points of this ilxor/tesla merge would be that we have proven systems to moderate troubling content

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link

How is he going to make Xbook even more Nazi-friendly than Facebook?

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link

It's too bad Zuck didn't buy Twitter so you could only experience tweets via VR.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link

time to put on my tweet helmet and yell at a harvard economist

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 23:40 (one year ago) link

how long until the app that tells you what to do in all respects of your life and rewards you in store credit for doing what it recommends

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link

X will do that. because X will do everything. and while it's at it, it will revolutionize everything. just for good measure. first they have just a few more tiny bugs to iron out of it. but once they do, it's look out world!**

**warning: X may murder small children and cause genital warts.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link

Never needs ironing

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 00:10 (one year ago) link

its cool hes building x

some dumb math:

Meta and Snap down on average of 67% this year. Implies standalone Twitter price of $14.00/share ($11bn market cap), based on where Twitter was on 12/31.

Implied premium on $54.20 deal price is like 287% (oh and $13bn new debt package immediately underwater). pic.twitter.com/C2nA6neeqH

— Sujeet Indap (@sindap) October 4, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

blocking all posters here until X is released and then unblocking so i can read your heartfelt apologies

Clay, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link

free x

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

its easy to be a critic but how many of you are building x

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link

sorry, g∞n, but my nda with the nsa forbids me...

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 00:28 (one year ago) link

We should sue him, we're X! ILX! Fuk u elon.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 00:38 (one year ago) link

I made a couple hundred bucks today after seeing the $54 thing lol

mh, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 04:28 (one year ago) link

My last day was Monday. So sad I wasn’t around for the three hour company 2023 strategy meeting yesterday that was interrupted after 15 mins by news the stock had been suspended.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link

good times at blue bird industries

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link

"i made ten Gs today"

"yeah you made it in a sleazy way, selling Doge to the kids"

"I gotta buy Twitter"

well hey

stank viola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

Random Musk thoughts, posted on a discord server and copied here:

I think Brandon Sutton or someone adjacent to him pointed out that figures like Musk and Bill Gates/Steve Jobs(in earlier decades) represent some sorta human instantiation of Progress.

Elon Musk is doing big things which means that technology is advancing thus the American People and/or Progress is advancing. Anything that could possibly endanger that conception must be vehemently attacked. It kinda explains why online creatures freak out to defend their hero.

It’s effectively just a degraded, dumber version of Great Man of History belief, where the only thing that advances Civilization are the mighty strides of titans of tech industry, since every possible Avenue of social change has been forcibly squeezed out or discredited

The fact that Musk doesn’t and can’t deliver jack shit doesn’t mean anything, at least not for the moment, since his importance to this crowd seems just to exist as vessel to receive desperate hopes and dreams that Things Are Getting Better.

Eventually his importance will probably fade(or blow up) and some other character will come along, at least as long as we have our current social formation where there’s a need for large figures in the form of tech CEOs like this.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 20:00 (one year ago) link

there's definitely something Trumpy about it, the way he tries to take complex, age-old problems and reduce them to very simple solutions that you can fit in a single tweet. it's convincing to some people because he's got that visionary quality to it, like maybe he doesn't know everything but he knows "what's important", blah blah blah. much like Trump there's this sense of "well if he's not brilliant why has he been so successful?" and as time goes on and more reporting gets done it starts becoming clear that this is just how America works. of course both of them push back against all those narratives and insist all the news is fake, and I guess if you're already hypnotized by them you believe it. I think Tesla bought him a lot of goodwill, even if in retrospect, it's not quite clear what exactly he added to that company. as far as I can tell he's mostly responsible for the bad/fraudulent stuff they have going on, but I guess in the meantime he did put them on the map by being an annoying piece of human garbage. so there's that.

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link

better boat than the cybertruck (dome means u wont drown)

mark s, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link

App X is how Space X shares its joys, worries

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 21:12 (one year ago) link

what is going on here

NEW YORK (AP) — Musk lawyers say Twitter won't accept renewed $44 billion bid for the company, ask Delaware court to halt upcoming trial.

— Jonathan Lemire (@JonLemire) October 6, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

bad news: my car battery was dead this morning
good news: the CAA dude who came to boost my battery spent the 10 minutes of waiting for it to charge telling me how much Musk sucks lol

rob, Thursday, 6 October 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

"Twitter will not take yes for an answer," said the court filing signed by Musk attorney Edward Micheletti. "Astonishingly, they have insisted on proceeding with this litigation, recklessly putting the deal at risk and gambling with their stockholders’ interests."

Whole thing is super fishy

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 6 October 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link

seems like musk wants the trial called off before he gives twitter the money and twitter wants to be given the money first

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link

xps more maneuvers and market manipulations methinks

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 6 October 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link

Makes clear Musk is not doing what is necessary to obtain financing. https://t.co/F3ngBEAJ3r

— Ann "No Relation" Lipton (@AnnMLipton) October 6, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 6 October 2022 20:58 (one year ago) link

That is a pretty spicy filing from Twitter.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 6 October 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link

this fuckin guy

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

'further mischief and delay'

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link

Just this morning, a corporate representative for one of the lending banks testified that Mr. Musk has yet to send them a borrowing notice and has not otherwise communicated to them that he intends to close the transaction, let alone on any particular timeline. The bank further testified that the main task necessary to close the deal—memorializing the debt financing—could have happened in July but didn’t because Mr. Musk purported to terminate the deal.

it really was just a ploy my god what a lunatic

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:04 (one year ago) link

lmao

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

he needs that money to occupy mars

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

judge listen the money is on mars, its mars emeralds

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:09 (one year ago) link

ohhhhhhhh you guys

I just figured it out

this is about the Tesla selling window, innit?

16/ pic.twitter.com/H8eoq88mQV

— The Chancery Daily (@chancery_daily) October 6, 2022

seems plausible that he's buying time to sell tsla stock

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link

if thats the case why doesnt he just tell them that

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

banter heuristic

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:16 (one year ago) link

Musk asks the Court to stay trial while he tries to close the deal.

Twitter won't agree. You can have trial going on and Musk can continue to close if he wants. No problem! Why should they give up the hammer of the trial when dealing with an untrustworthy partner? https://t.co/sfA55sEecc

— Raffi Melkonian (@RMFifthCircuit) October 6, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link

It all has a distinct feel of Musk's lawyers flailing their arms in an effort to cause delay in the hope of concessions from Twitter. iow, it looks desperate, but the hours are billable and Musk is permitting them to flail away, so why not?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 6 October 2022 22:03 (one year ago) link

I am just imagining the billing that was going on at these firms getting ready for this trial on this time frame.

sometimes you have to drink to kill the paranoia (PBKR), Thursday, 6 October 2022 22:40 (one year ago) link

i mean justice delayed is justice denied innit homie

i'm intentionally vague, intending to front multitudes (Hunt3r), Thursday, 6 October 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

this is how the world ends
not with a merger but with billable hours

Bulk billing dream.

sometimes you have to drink to kill the paranoia (PBKR), Saturday, 8 October 2022 01:09 (one year ago) link

ok man

Elon Musk says his teenage daughter doesn't want to be associated with him because of what he calls 'full-on communism' taught in schools and widespread hatred of the wealthy https://t.co/MNZPabKPbD

— Business Insider Tech (@BITech) October 7, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 October 2022 01:19 (one year ago) link

gee Elon, maybe you should have been a more positive presence in her life and she would have learned from you how wonderful wealthy people really are.

uh, you have met her by now, rite?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 8 October 2022 01:56 (one year ago) link

"Can't win them all."

Parenting isn't about winning, you miserable troll.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 8 October 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

tbf, who among us doesn't have at least one child that loathes us

it’s tough out here for a g

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 8 October 2022 23:49 (one year ago) link

if you think about it, wealthy people are the real victims in this unfair world

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 8 October 2022 23:50 (one year ago) link

iirc, Twitter should meet Elon Po Po's trick with their own involving the promise of magical ginkgo nuts

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 10 October 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

I understand they've been lost in the ocean of other stupid things he's said & done, but just wanted to note that his comments about Taiwan are stupid craven bullshit.

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 10 October 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

lot of ppl are thinking he said it to cozy up to china but i think its prob just cause he likes to talk

lag∞n, Monday, 10 October 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link

he said basically the same thing about russia and ukraine and whats the angle there if anything hes hurting his business by airing an unpopular opinion but he does care he just wants to talk about his dumbass theories

lag∞n, Monday, 10 October 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

I'm sure there's a lot of truth to that. Everything he says creates an uproar.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 10 October 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk is as fucked up as Henry Ford and that's a difficult feat.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 10 October 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

he's going to mobilise his stans into an anti-left anti-woke anti-union death squad if we're not careful

your original display name is still visible (Left), Monday, 10 October 2022 18:33 (one year ago) link

you can only tip you cap really

lag∞n, Monday, 10 October 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

worth noting that a good chunk of the most fervent musk enthusiasts you see online are being paid to do that and or have some other relevant financial interest in the situation

lag∞n, Monday, 10 October 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

it's just interesting that a lot of Elon's fanbase came from leftists, in the early-going, defending some of his more boorish behavior as his "being an asshole now and then", and right wingers became his fanbase the moment they saw that leftists didn't like him anymore.

one of my best friends is a liberal New York democrat, who hates conservatives and loathed Trump. he's a feminist, he has a transgender child, has created one of the safest spaces in town for autistic children with his c@t c@fe (and both his kid are on the spectrum), and despite all this, he loves Elon Musk, and gets in angry, almost conservative-ish defenses of Elon. and he does this for no one else!

stank viola (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 October 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

s/interesting/not interesting at fucking all

stank viola (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 October 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/JasHcRW.png

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

He didn’t realize murderous antisemitism was bad. Now he does.

treeship., Tuesday, 11 October 2022 01:10 (one year ago) link

A win for the discourse.

treeship., Tuesday, 11 October 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link

glad elon solved antisemitism

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 01:15 (one year ago) link

"you just gotta keep your feelings about the Jews, which are correct, to yourself, Kanye, or else you'll be cancelled! that's the real lesson here"

stank viola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 02:35 (one year ago) link

the really grating longtermism crap aside, the idea that Musk's involved in things that seem genuinely interesting and his ability to hype up the idea that there is a future where smart electric cars, ubiquitous internet access via satellite, functioning space transit, etc. exist appeals in an uncynical way to people that many other things do not

I think his deployment of these things is cynical

mh, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link

he just goes around saying shit

your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link

lol he got rolled

Think (in ridiculous fashion) this is the first indication of what Putin's red line for nuclear use is:

'Musk said Putin told him these goals would be accomplished “no matter what,” including the potential of a nuclear strike if Ukraine invaded Crimea'https://t.co/7aTlTEb0Pt

— max seddon (@maxseddon) October 11, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

big day for musk news hes also been trying to befriend nathan fielder

I knew it. The Musk Twitter bid is season 2 of The Rehearsal.https://t.co/NELTFd29zH pic.twitter.com/1yETJPmHY7

— Ryan Mac 🙃 (@RMac18) October 11, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 16:23 (one year ago) link

Elon For You

stank viola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link

isn't there some law (lol) preventing citizens from dealing with or lobbying on behalf of heads of state?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link

laws no longer exist, we're only alive cos people don't all know yet

stank viola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link

This is how Elon Musk invents things https://t.co/q8rAL7t597

— Laurie Charles (🚫🏌️‍♀️) (@thestuffofmemes) October 13, 2022

frogbs, Thursday, 13 October 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link

BREAKING: CNN reports that Elon Musk's SpaceX has told the US government it can no longer fund Starlink service in Ukraine

— The Spectator Index (@spectatorindex) October 13, 2022

barry sito (gyac), Thursday, 13 October 2022 23:59 (one year ago) link

trial subscription now over

lag∞n, Friday, 14 October 2022 00:02 (one year ago) link

It wld be a shame if anything happened to starlink man.

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Friday, 14 October 2022 00:30 (one year ago) link

ah

Breaking @TheTerminal - $TWTR claims in a court filing that @elonmusk is presently under investigation by federal authorities for his conduct in connection with the acquisition of Twitter

— Ed Ludlow (@EdLudlow) October 13, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 14 October 2022 01:37 (one year ago) link

Not sure that's quite news — the SEC has been looking at his Twitter actions since the spring. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/14/technology/twitter-elon-musk-sec.html

We’re just following his recommendation 🤷‍♂️

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 14, 2022

God I hate this fucking guy.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 14 October 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link

the tweet he was responding to:

Elon Musk’s Starlink says it can no longer afford to give Ukraine 🇺🇦 free service and asks the Pentagon 🇺🇸 to pay for it. Starlink had been a game changer in the war.

This comes days after Ukrainian Ambassador @MelnykAndrij told Musk to “fuck off.”

— Jason Jay Smart (@officejjsmart) October 14, 2022

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 14 October 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link

download our twitter archive before Musk Ox takes over

| (Latham Green), Sunday, 16 October 2022 14:12 (one year ago) link

Also Musk is probably building SPaceX mukes to taunt Puti n

| (Latham Green), Sunday, 16 October 2022 14:14 (one year ago) link

i must preserve my 2017 tweet "love too stick a qtip in my ear"

lag∞n, Sunday, 16 October 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link

HEARTHEART!!

| (Latham Green), Sunday, 16 October 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link

its weird how he keeps not caring about kanye being a huge racist pos

Musk posted this and deleted lol pic.twitter.com/JwHJ6FMcGJ

— Goat Capital (@TradesalotSir) October 17, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 17 October 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link

Game recognises game

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:08 (one year ago) link

Apartheid Clyde and Klanye

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/hFkVb4J.png

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link

If X takes off we are seriously going to need a rebrand here

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

wtf is X

your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

imagine willingly positioning yourself with any of those ding dongs

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link

his meme sensibility is so early 2010s reddit and he doesn't even have the excuse of being a kid when that kind of shit was considered acceptable

your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 15:58 (one year ago) link

wtf is X

― your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, October 18, 2022 11:45 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the everything app

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

sounds like bs

your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

buying twitter is an accelerant to creating x

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link

X currently only works in the hyperloop, but will soon be available on Mars as well

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 16:49 (one year ago) link

X.com was a company Elon Musk ran in 1999, a precursor to PayPal (which came about after X.com and Confinity merged).

of course he'd use it again

stank viola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link

Parler has a tiny user base, and it gets tinier every day.. I'm sure they be relieved to cash out and move on, i.e. Ye Olde Exit Strategy

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link

kanye actually buying parler seems like one of those things that wont really happen

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

bcz bots maybe

mark s, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link

i was very excited by the WaPo story abt the (apparently) hilarious internal beef at truth but try as i might the paywall stopped me reading abt it

i even have a dedicated plug-in for stealing content from the other side of newspaper paywalls but BEZOS has defeated me, must be feeling the pinch after all that rings money >:(

in conclusion i love x

mark s, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link

bots in the brain

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link

his meme sensibility is so early 2010s reddit and he doesn't even have the excuse of being a kid when that kind of shit was considered acceptable

― your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, October 18, 2022 10:58 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

there's gotta be some Michael Jackson thing going on here, he spent his prime shitposting years investing his Apartheid money so he's now spending his life trying to recapture them

frogbs, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link

i was very excited by the WaPo story abt the (apparently) hilarious internal beef at truth but try as i might the paywall stopped me reading abt it

― mark s, Tuesday, October 18, 2022 1:26 PM (fourteen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

enjoy https://justpaste.it/2adko

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

will be pretty funny if elon if elon kills twitter by adding payments and calling an uber to it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link

if he really opens up the platform to developers i swear to you here and now i will make the most deranged app that i know how

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link

lol thx for that lag∞n

i like that, just as a mastodon tweet is called a "toot", a truth too is simply called a "truth"

my favourite bit of the WaPo piece is where don jr simply wanders in and "asks to be paid"

(he does nothing and had no role in setting up or financing the platform) (you will be startled to learn)

mark s, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

anyway back to elon

mark s, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 18:39 (one year ago) link

Isn't one of his kids named X?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

who the hell uses Signal

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link

work teams with extremely security conscious bosses.

ledge, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

God, that WaPo piece... looking more like Trump Media will go the way of the USFL, but maybe burn up faster

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

ETTD

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

who the hell uses Signal


leftists who care about security culture

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 20:31 (one year ago) link

who the hell uses Signal


People with friends who won’t use WhatsApp

barry sito (gyac), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link

A LOT more people should probably use Signal

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link

judging from how many people in my address book are on signal many people use it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:07 (one year ago) link

white nationalists also used it during Unite the Right.

so yeah, lots of people, some good, some bad, some in-between, but lots of people use it.

stank viola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

both sides now

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

^never liked that recut version of the Free song

stank viola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:19 (one year ago) link

I use Signal, ama

rob, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:38 (one year ago) link

my favourite bit of the WaPo piece is where don jr simply wanders in and "asks to be paid"

― mark s, Tuesday, October 18, 2022 2:36 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

and then cries to his dad about it who then yells at the founders lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link

afaict, signal is popular among people who have reason to worry about opsec (obviously), and in countries where people don't use whatapp/wechat/ktalk, etc. so don't have an obvious option for cross platform messaging (i.e. america).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link

i use signal to chat with one friend, it’s very good and better than imessage

, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 01:16 (one year ago) link

imessage is a demon that comes bundled with apple products

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 01:20 (one year ago) link

Signal is good for buying certain things

https://www.theverge.com/23409716/signal-encryption-messaging-sms-meredith-whittaker-imessage-whatsapp-china

Maybe the Democrats should use signal

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link

I use Signal too. My sister and most/all of her NGO and world traveller friends all use it.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 06:45 (one year ago) link

also on Signal. I send them money sometimes.

beard papa, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 07:16 (one year ago) link

I only use iMessage with people who don’t use Signal

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 10:54 (one year ago) link

I like the UX for WhatsApp way better than Signal.

death generator (lukas), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link

whatsapp has the funniest name

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 15:56 (one year ago) link

Whaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssaaaaaaapp

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link

But do other people have to be using signal on the other end? Like you have to get people you know to install it to use it?

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 16:23 (one year ago) link

I'm glad to have no need for privacy for the most part - cant imagine someone caring what I am messaging people about -0-__ maybe good for CIA agents or something?

Also if you use things like signal isn't it kindof just saying to the NSA - "hey I am hiding something"

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/fbu6WgI.png

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link

Can't imagine the NSA spends their days going - "holy shit, Stanley Coppersmith opened a Signal account", they're too busy spying on civilians listening to private phone calls

stank viola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link

Latham, what app do you use? I don't understand your pov, because to do things like group chats at some point you all have to pick some platform to use

rob, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 17:00 (one year ago) link

and I assume people are just kidding w/stuff like "white nationalists use it" cuz that's like objecting to sending packages in the mail because of the unabomber

rob, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

that's not a great analogy

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

yeah the unabomber is good and white nationalists are bad

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link

lmao

assuming that isn't what Andy meant, ignore the analogy and tell me what's bad about Signal

rob, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

Using Signal is like having a Protonmail account; it just tells me that you take yourself way too seriously.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link

white nationalists also used it during Unite the Right.

― stank viola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, October 18, 2022 5:15 PM (yesterday)

btw, this was actually Discord

rob, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link

Using Signal is like having a Protonmail account; it just tells me that you take yourself way too seriously.

Tell me you don’t live in a red state without telling me don’t live in a red state.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

I don't particularly care for Signal (it's a pretty bare-bones messaging app) but certain people in my life won't use anything but so I'm stuck if I wanna communicate with them

frogbs, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

Anyway I thought Telegram was the most active messaging app for right wing extremists. I’ve never tried that one.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

and I assume people are just kidding w/stuff like "white nationalists use it" cuz that's like objecting to sending packages in the mail because of the unabomber

― rob, Wednesday, October 19, 2022 1:06 PM bookmarkflaglink

I wasn't saying that as an objection, just pointing out it does have a wide reach. might even tell my team to move to it, but i haven't tried it yet.

stank viola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link

I just use the regular text messaging app for group chats

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link

xp
yeah I mean I first heard about it from (leftist) activists, so it definitely has a rep as a political tool. I'm just confused why people bring up the (possibly false) far-right association but no one seems to mention, e.g., Whatsapp being implicated in actual genocide

I do sympathize with being compelled to use a partic app just to chat, as I have friends who only contact me through Instagram DMs and I hate it

rob, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link

i mean i'd be a massive hypocrite to call out Signal for that when I use FB of all things, lol.

WhatsApp has also been used to share larger vids w/ me. friends sent me a vid showing me how to give their cat insulin injections

didn't stop the cat from scratching me anyway I blame Whatsapp for that

stank viola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link

there's a subreddit for that? r/catscratchinsulinvideos (not really)!

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

All of these apps will be subsumed into X.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

there's a subreddit for that? r/catscratchinsulinvideos (not really)!

― | (Latham Green), Wednesday, October 19, 2022 6:07 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Worst social media platform thread is over there >>>>>> (((to the FAR RIGHT)))

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link

Actually the worst is the nasty dysfunctional feedback loop of Reddit and Youtube.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

Honestly, Signal is barebones and I don’t understand why anyone would need anything else from a text messaging app— that I cannot make Signal the default messaging app on my phone is the thing about my phone that pisses me off the most. I hate the way iMessage or whatever looks

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link

I think if everybody you know is using Apple stuff, "Messages" is about as good as Signal: It's supposedly end-to-end encrypted. I've used a chat program to talk to friends going back to ICQ (followed by AIM -> Yahoo messenger -> Facebook messenger -> messages/SMS -> Google Hangouts/Talk -> Signal. Out of all of those apps, Signal and Messages made me feel the most confident that my conversations were private. I do not "have anything to hide" or do anything illegal, but I don't like the feeling of wondering if I should self-censor in a supposedly private conversation - whether it's from a fear of a joke being misconstrued or Google's machine learning picking up keywords to sell to marketers for targeted advertising, I like my conversations private and I'm happy to pay for that service.

beard papa, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 23:14 (one year ago) link

Like is the prez has to have some one send him the nuclear codes he should not use whatsapp

It seems like human bahavior is already the bigger problem - leave it to IT people think better software fixes everything -
https://blog.avast.com/uber-hack

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 20 October 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link

Messages is great if everyone is on iPhone and not everyone is already on WhatsApp or local equivalent. The only social groups where that’s true are in the upper end of the income distribution in North America. It’s just not a situation that happens much outside that.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 20 October 2022 00:26 (one year ago) link

I have only known one person in my life to use WHatsApp - it reminds me of the ORkut situation - only a Brazilian station?
https://applemagazine.com/is-the-long-extinct-social-network-orkut-on-the-verge-of-a-comeback/52177

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 20 October 2022 12:39 (one year ago) link

caek otm

o. nate, Thursday, 20 October 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link

WhatsApp is cheaper for people than regular texting in a lot of places where you pay per text. Also cheaper if you text people with international numbers.

Position Position, Thursday, 20 October 2022 13:36 (one year ago) link

WhatsApp is the de facto choice pretty much everywhere other than the US (and maybe Canada?) afaict

mh, Thursday, 20 October 2022 14:23 (one year ago) link

world where I'm forced to get a fucking iPhone to communicate with friends and family sounds just great, fantastic idea there

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 20 October 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link

only commies use whatsapp - USA Boldbloods use one of teh three Musk-eteers apps ! This is Reagan's future

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 20 October 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link

"world where I'm forced to get a fucking iPhone to communicate with friends and family sounds just great, fantastic idea there"

iPhone really gouges people on price if you ask me - but isnt it odd that Beyonce and me could use the same phone - were is the million-dollar Ferrari phone

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 20 October 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link

WhatsApp is the de facto choice pretty much everywhere other than the US (and maybe Canada?) afaict

― mh, Thursday, October 20, 2022 10:23 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah in india there are cheap phone plans that just have whatsapp instead of data, for some people it is the internet

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 October 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link

^ brazil's the same

fpsa, Thursday, 20 October 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

I had to use it to coordinate my pickups and dropoffs during my office visit in the Philippines.

stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 October 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link

coke?

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 20 October 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link

lol no rides to and from the office

stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 October 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

WhatsApp is the de facto choice pretty much everywhere other than the US (and maybe Canada?) afaict

― mh, Thursday, October 20, 2022 10:23 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

not korea (kakao https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/19/world/asia/korea-kakao-ceo.html is wild), japan (line), eastern europe and one girl from park slope i went on a tinder date with in 2013 (viber) and china (wechat).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 20 October 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link

It figures that an Elon Musk thread has turned into a discussion of messaging apps.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 20 October 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

it's all leading towards X, everything leads towards X

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 20 October 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

It's not a crossroads, it's a singularity.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 20 October 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link

He should buy goatse.cx

stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 October 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link

just two edgelords living in the moment pic.twitter.com/iouBxhGnkI

— Kevin Rothrock (@KevinRothrock) October 20, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 October 2022 22:47 (one year ago) link

he pay too much lol

Social media market caps (2021 peak to today)

Snap $131B → $14B
Meta $1.07T→ $353B
Twitter $61B → $40B
Pinterest $56B → $15B

— Troy Osinoff 🕺 (@yo) October 20, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 21 October 2022 12:35 (one year ago) link

I saw someone say it's like announcing you want to buy a car, changing your mind, changing your mind again, then crashing the car, then saying you still want to buy it.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 October 2022 13:18 (one year ago) link

aside from whatever damage he mightve done to the company his timing was just terrible, making an offer right in the middle of a gigantic crash of the sector, twitter would prob be trading at a third of what hes paying

lag∞n, Friday, 21 October 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link

Seems like his only hope now is to make enough Putin-friendly noises on Twitter to provoke a national security review that will bar him from going through with the purchase.

o. nate, Friday, 21 October 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/fMQcZDW.png

| (Latham Green), Friday, 21 October 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link

post article said the deal is prob closing next week xp

lag∞n, Friday, 21 October 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

SAN FRANCISCO - Elon Musk plans to lay off most of Twitter’s workforce if and when he becomes owner of the social media company, according to a report Thursday by The Washington Post.

Musk has told prospective investors in his Twitter purchase that he plans to cut nearly 75% of Twitter’s employee base of 7,500 workers, leaving the company with a skeleton crew, according to the report...

Gonna be awful lonely in the cafeteria.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 21 October 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

I hope the actual citizens of the TL rise up and takes the building, that's what Musk and Twitter deserve afaic.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Friday, 21 October 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

Who will be the last person to tweet, and what conspiracy theory will they be pushing?

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 21 October 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link

and who will own the NFT for that tweet?

| (Latham Green), Friday, 21 October 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link

who taught him to talk like this

“Government is simply the biggest corporation, with the sole monopoly on violence.” — @elonmusk pic.twitter.com/1SqS8qMs3F

— Pranay Pathole (@PPathole) October 15, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 23 October 2022 14:04 (one year ago) link

the state's monopoly on violence should rightfully be his because he could discipline & extract value from workers more effectively without government regulation, better than a government itself can? (capital allocation as the financial abstraction of this?)

Left, Sunday, 23 October 2022 14:19 (one year ago) link

the antistatism is of course totally opportunistic and hypocritical and feels like something between a pose and a threat

Left, Sunday, 23 October 2022 14:26 (one year ago) link

feel like this might be evidence of exposure to anarcho capitalism, which which would stand to reason i guess what with being into crypto

lag∞n, Sunday, 23 October 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link

feel like thiel and andreessen probably also often talk this way, and with a somewhat firmer intellectual grounding?

i mean i don't think they're advanced political thinkers or anything but musk by comparison is a mid stoner dunce with far too much time and money on his hands

mark s, Sunday, 23 October 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link

sub-mid in fact

^^^speaking truth to power here

mark s, Sunday, 23 October 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link

how long until the helicopter memes or has he gone there already

your original display name is still visible (Left), Sunday, 23 October 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link

feel like Twitter would be better if in addition to followers, it gave a complete list of people that also hate you. but that would probably just egg Elon Musk on.

this feels more like him intentionally trying to say something that winds up being a decades-enduring quote and failing miserably.

stank viola (Neanderthal), Sunday, 23 October 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link

given how much govt capital Musk has gotten, I have to agree with him here

rob, Sunday, 23 October 2022 15:17 (one year ago) link

he is prime ancap material - born into money, sexually predatory, racist, utterly convinced of own brilliance, resentful of meagre protections his workers have won from the state and jealous of the violent forces the state is able to marshall (partly) independent of his whims (for now)... but he's not fussy - he also called himself an anarcho-syndicalist once didn't he? although I suspect was thinking of something more like fascist corporatism, if he was thinking

your original display name is still visible (Left), Sunday, 23 October 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

No private citizen should be so powerful in a governed society. Bu there he is with his money and power and toys like a super villian

| (Latham Green), Sunday, 23 October 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link

ancap is the most ridiculous name, what if we combined these two oppositional ideas to form... libertarianism?

lag∞n, Sunday, 23 October 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link

capitalists and fascists stole libertarian from the left and are in the process of stealing anarchist too (thanks hbo)

your original display name is still visible (Left), Sunday, 23 October 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

lol remember the story from a few years ago where an american ancap reddit user was visiting greece and decided to check out an anarchist squat and they ended up beating him up

lag∞n, Sunday, 23 October 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link

god that fuckin rules

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 23 October 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link

musk by comparison is a mid stoner dunce

― mark s, Sunday, October 23, 2022 11:12 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

the saddest part about this is its a new affectation, he was just a square before, he got into dorm room philosophy as a midlife crisis

lag∞n, Sunday, 23 October 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

lol remember the story from a few years ago where an american ancap reddit user was visiting greece and decided to check out an anarchist squat and they ended up beating him up


Bless the comrades of Exarcheia

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Sunday, 23 October 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

it's still up I hope it's real

https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/3ucp8y/i_was_beat_up_by_left_anarchists_in_greece/

I remember yelling "you're breaking the NAP" and things like that. "Stop initiating force against me."

your original display name is still visible (Left), Sunday, 23 October 2022 17:05 (one year ago) link

tfw force is initiated

mh, Sunday, 23 October 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

Hate when someone disturbs my NAP

jmm, Sunday, 23 October 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

such as a basic douche, such a basic play, so depressing.

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Sunday, 23 October 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

not to assume the veracity of the story but

“I’m just taking pictures of an anti-authoritarian group’s headquarters, why would they be mad?” is really something

mh, Sunday, 23 October 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

elon said something true then compensated by following up with the most reddit thing anyone has ever said pic.twitter.com/lwB6MEE5Yo

— Lena (@banalplay) October 24, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 24 October 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

"polytopia addresses these limitations"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 24 October 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

perfect post

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 24 October 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

lmao I assumed polytopia was some weird philosophy thing but it turns out it's just a mobile game for kids

frogbs, Monday, 24 October 2022 21:07 (one year ago) link

it's literally a version of civ that has been simplified for mobile play and has brightly colored graphics. it's pretty good?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 24 October 2022 21:09 (one year ago) link

he talks like a deep fake of himself

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 24 October 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link

xp maybe a friend of his owns the game

Karl Malone, Monday, 24 October 2022 21:14 (one year ago) link

(that is rampant speculation, sorry. but at any rate, i'm glad the limitations of chess have been addressed

Karl Malone, Monday, 24 October 2022 21:16 (one year ago) link

lol I was briefly obsessed with Polytopia a few years back; caek's right, it's a simplified Civilization with cute icons, pretty addictive ime. I definitely liked it more than chess, but that's because it's much easier

rob, Monday, 24 October 2022 21:20 (one year ago) link

one game lasted exactly as long as my commute when i lived in munich.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 24 October 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link

yeah that's an ideal use case

rob, Monday, 24 October 2022 21:27 (one year ago) link

one of the limitations of chess is that it doesn't last as long as a hungover person's commute, and polytopia addresses this.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 24 October 2022 21:28 (one year ago) link

The design of Polytopia does look neat

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

Tetris addresses these limitations as well.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

it's a great iphone game!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

three more days until it becomes musk brand twitter

It's all (????) happening (????) https://t.co/TndbF00O6C

— Silvia Killingsworth (@silviakillings) October 25, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

lmao stock still stuck at $53. he's obviously going through with it and still nobody trusts this guy.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link

No idea why they wouldn't.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link

it would be nice if he tried one last minute gambit

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

he's gonna demand they split the stock on Friday morning, before he signs the check

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

I kinda agree with some less-panicked commentary I’ve heard that there’s not much he can do to change the platform and retain the particular userbase that makes it relevant. There’s a lot of professional media person panic about this kinda thing that might just skew their perception just a lil’

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 18:37 (one year ago) link

the professional media person demo is absoulutely essential to the product's value though

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link

they're addicted, so i doubt they leave, but if they ever do then it's over.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link

yeah twitter is really more a broadcast system than a social network, and the high profile users are what makes it work

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link

entire communities exist now because they've found each other being haters in the replies of high profile accounts

mh, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link

one thing a technical person said on twitter the other day is that twitter is somewhat protected from someone stealing their users by the fact that twitter is hard to build, which i think is somewhat true, like you cant just build a twitter clone and be like everyone come over here unless you have a lot of money and expertise at your disposal, you could have some new thing that slowly attracts users tho, and then eventual the media people come over

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link

Its like Facebook - try getting everyone you know of Facebook to move over to slack or something - it will never happen unless they are young rebels

Facebook won the social media race - like Microsoft won the OS wars - even though both are obvious shit

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link

facebook is dying tho, social networks altogether might be dying

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:19 (one year ago) link

praise be

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link

I hate the reels in Instagram! How obnoxious for them to just say "hey we are like tiktok now here are some vids from people you dont even follow"

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link

yeah thats an indication that these platforms are moving away from the social model towards the broadcast model

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link

I cant get anyone I know to use tiktok - the model seems to be "watch videos" but a lot of people dont want to make vidoes just watch them - so I see what you are saying.
Of course 18 year olds sit there all day making selfie videos so maybe its a generational thing
people who want an audience - how human - "Human, All Too Human" Nietzsche would have loved tiktok

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

someone I was talking to hypothesized a trickle-down where tiktok stuff gets reposted to instagram gets pulled into facebook

the minionization of video clips

mh, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

the social type stuff following liking commenting etc will prob stay around but the truest presentation of social media the chronological friend feed is already dead, people thought facebook was the future but really it was youtube, facebook was unpleasant actually lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

lmao

Yikes lol pic.twitter.com/pc6SXl0Ulc

— Paul E Williams (@PEWilliams_) October 25, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link

I mean that's true, people don't tweet all that much

mh, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link

the idea of a comment is pretty funny, you have an initial post then it has some baby posts parented by randos which are almost always bad, everyone hates the comments lol they were bad on blogs, theyre still bad, youtubers complain about their commenters all the time, commenters are causing genuine harm on twitter, this is of course a central feature of social media

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link

I have seen a lot of tiktok videos on youtube so that is another trickle

you canupload someone else's video to your tiktok and get a thousand views and no one cares about copyright at all or credit

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link

I was talking about this with my husband last night— "the dark forest is growing."

https://onezero.medium.com/the-dark-forest-theory-of-the-internet-7dc3e68a7cb1

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:36 (one year ago) link

I certainly post more on a private Discord server than I do anywhere else except ILX— I am tired of being perceived and "creating content"

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link

yeah thats the other part of social media dying the conversation aspects are moving to more chat type platforms

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

turns out talking to everyone all at once was not the best way to talk

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

what about flipping the paradigm -- everybody talks to one

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

I have found Facebook to be a great place to get an audience for paintings and photography. That's the motivation-rewards loop - brief hit

Internet has such great potential for non-profit betterment of life - hopefully the dark forest will include such cozy cottages

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

and the "one" switches all the time, like kiss cam

xp

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

"what about flipping the paradigm -- everybody talks to one"
I like it - TalktoMebook

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

thats called the main character of the day, everyone tells them they should go to jail

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

yeah but what if tomorrow it was the shift manager at office depot

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:43 (one year ago) link

and suddenly everyone is talking to him

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

and suddenly everyone is talking to him

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

only if they say something bad online

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

i don't know, could be fun, i'm just saying let's flip the paradigm here

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

just saw some stats that over-50's make 80% of the political comments on social media... the younger folks generally avoid the subject

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link

xp and let's face it, you absolutely know the shift manager at office depot said something bad online

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link

the perfect post for a office depot manager to get man charactered for is bragging about over charging a homeless person for making copies of a job application

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

just saw some stats that over-50's make 80% of the political comments on social media...

― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, October 25, 2022 3:45 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah but thats just cause theyre replying "trump more like dump" to home depot ads 50 times a day

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

the perfect post for a office depot manager to get man charactered for is bragging about over charging a homeless person for making copies of a job application

https://i.imgur.com/abEt6zB.png

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link

thats right

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link

now you understand the potential of everyone talks to one

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link

i should get one of those hats

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

you know what kudos to the truman show for nailing the headset mic visionary before he was a wildly known type of guy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

Fwiw I see at least as many screenshots of tweets on TikTok as I see TikTok videos on Twitter

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link

i wonder if tiktok just figured out you like tweets

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link

Twitter's research also examined what topics are of interest to their most active users. It is increasingly NSFW and crypto content and these users are actually losing interest in world news, sports, fashion and entertainment

— Sheila Dang (@Sheila_Dang) October 25, 2022

lol circling the drain

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

there is a surprising amount of nsfw like a video of some girl just screaming "DO YOU WANT TO &*%& ME" - like do the TIKTOK makers realize Americans find that kind of thing supriosing

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:08 (one year ago) link

twitter: pornhub for shills

rob, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:09 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/qtNx8s0.jpg

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

I installed TikTok for one person and when you load the app random videos start playing. they are all so astonishingly horny. like 4 minutes of "when your best friend's sister comes over!!! and starts saying a lot of suggestive things that make you want to fuck her!!!"

frogbs, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:17 (one year ago) link

haa good stuff

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:19 (one year ago) link

is the beret some reference to Erich von Stroheim or Ingmar Bergman? Should really have a monocle as well, the headset mic is the equivalent of the old bullhorn

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link

this thread inspired my to download tiktok and upon opening it i got 3 horny vids and then one of those silly cooking vids

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:25 (one year ago) link

i do like the ones of chinese people making big soup in the countryside

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link

youtube started a very wack TT ripoff feature and it is super horny too

rob, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:37 (one year ago) link

yeah those are cool

there is definitely some funny/informative stuff on Tiktok but a lot of it gets filtered through Twitter so I just watch it there. unfortunately the majority of it is either softcore porn or "True facts that will DEMOLISH your perception of time Part 97" featuring a dude making the most unnatural voiceover you've ever heard

frogbs, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:37 (one year ago) link

when I go onto youtube to look at Deep Purple videos or whatever, it's interesting to see what's 'trending': 'OMG, watch what happen when the bridegroom finally opens to the pantry door!' or whatever.. who watches this shit? And it'll have like 750 million views

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link

or whatever

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link

I want to add that the good dancing videos are so good that they fill me with relief.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

when I go onto youtube to look at Deep Purple videos or whatever, it's interesting to see what's 'trending': 'OMG, watch what happen when the bridegroom finally opens to the pantry door!' or whatever.. who watches this shit? And it'll have like 750 million views

― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, October 25, 2022 1:43 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

One of the things that the internet has made certain: most people are incredibly simple, passive creatures.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link

the worst part about the youtube algo is how it feeds you conspiracy versions of your interests like hey noticed you watched an archaeology video on gobekli tepe would you perhaps like to watch this one about how atlantis was real

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

totally - I was looking for info about my old .22 rifle (xmas present when I was 12) and started getting survivalist suggestions, for when the Coming Storm arrives

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link

i wonder if it's because the algorithm gives bonus points for having some sort of business angle or a product for sale, biased not necessarily toward "grift" itself but toward "commerce", which is a ton of grift and conspiracy

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link

if you start a new account it really is astonishing how fast it leads you down the Joe Rogan/Ben Shapiro rabbit hole

frogbs, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

as in, search for art and you'll find artists and galleries, search for music and you'll get pushed toward the things they're selling, celebrities have a tv show or a movie or whatever. but search for something that doesn't have a clear commercial connection, like "i am always lonely", and it still searches for some sort of commercial connection

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link

i have my finger on the pulse of the nation - they're all searching "i am always lonely" on tiktok

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link

if you start a new account it really is astonishing how fast it leads you down the Joe Rogan/Ben Shapiro rabbit hole

― frogbs, Tuesday, October 25, 2022 4:55 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

it still tries to serve me joe rogan videos occasionally even tho ive done nothing to deserve it except maybe watching boxing documentaries

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

i wonder if it's because the algorithm gives bonus points for having some sort of business angle or a product for sale, biased not necessarily toward "grift" itself but toward "commerce", which is a ton of grift and conspiracy

― Karl Malone, Tuesday, October 25, 2022 4:54 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

maybe who knows whats going on in there, but i think they also just consider conspiracy videos to be videos that belong to whatever category that legit ones do, its all just videos to them

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link

yeah plus I would bet consp videos have really strong time-on-site numbers compared to less nuts content

rob, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 21:04 (one year ago) link

you'll get pushed toward the things they're selling

Isn't this just Google in a nutshell?

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 21:10 (one year ago) link

It's all content

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 21:21 (one year ago) link

Matt Levine a few days ago pointing out that the funniest outcome here is that Musk doesn't come up with an angle and buys Twitter at $54.20 and at 5.01 Joe Biden rings him and says we've decided you are too close to China and Russia and he has to sell it at $10.00.

I mean, the best option is this destroys Musk and Twitter, and I'm still holding out hope.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 21:23 (one year ago) link

oh i know that matt

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link

https://www.garbageday.email/p/websites-are-just-places-to-talk

In fact, according to Know Your Meme, about 60% of the memes we’ve seen in 2022 were created by Twitter or TikTok. And the three biggest apps behind those two —YouTube, Reddit, and Instagram — all trail far behind, contributing around 10% each. And if these current trends continue, it’s likely that by next year TikTok will outpace Twitter. In fact, we’ve entered a new interesting moment where it’s usually unclear whether people on Twitter are talking about something because it’s on TikTok or if people on TikTok are talking about something because it’s on Twitter. Soon it won’t be. Very shortly, every platform on the internet will be completely downstream of TikTok.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link

But for people who do not closely follow TikTok — of which there are still many — culture will continue to feel more and more random and confusing. You can see this in the way TikTok “algospeak” has spread to other platforms, with words like “Unalive” becoming a now very common thing to see within particularly twee pockets of the internet. And readers ask me about inscrutable TikTok trends all the time. Most recently, a reader named George sent me an email last week about a weird and confusing TikTok trend where people were posting videos of “fastest workers”. Here’s a supercut from 2020. I also suspect this is contributing to the death of the influencer, as recently noted by Embedded, and the rise of the influencer-worker. It’s not particularly interesting to just be an influencer on TikTok, but it is interesting to follow someone who does something. Perhaps this is also connected to the “faster workers” trend.

But this creeping feeling that to not “be on TikTok” is to somehow not understand what’s going on anymore is spreading. In fact, I came across a Tumblr post that I thought articulated this idea pretty perfectly.

“Frequently, I’ll see a post here that’s like ‘as a society, we all need to stop engaging in the very common [activity/ behavior/ perspective that I have never once heard about in my life]’ and I’ll feel confused at first because this post will be treating this extremely niche unheard-of topic like it’s universal,” Tumblr user keplercryptids wrote. “And then I remember that I am not on TikTok. So many takes on this site are direct responses to what’s popular on TikTok and I am so happy to live in ignorance tbh.”

The question is, how long will you be able to live in ignorance as more and more of the machinery of our culture becomes branches for TikTok to analyze and optimize around?

memes as culture. i don't know what to do with that. memes are an episode of america's funniest home videos. but maybe it's true. maybe that's what our culture is

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

"Vine" lol

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link

how long will you be able to live in ignorance as more and more of the machinery of our culture becomes branches for TikTok to analyze and optimize around?

Ehh - 'the machinery of our culture'? this is depressing

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 22:10 (one year ago) link

I’d rather be an old fartsack with my musty old books than have anything to do with TikTok. I did a deepdive the other week on skinny shaming and fatphobia on the platform, and both sides were completely unhinged and without a shred of nuance or understanding

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 22:19 (one year ago) link

the ultimate meme is the project to convince us memes are important

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

I still think the dancing baby on Ally McBeal is the ultimate meme

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 22:29 (one year ago) link

ha that baby could really get down!

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link

hey it seems they're creating jobs in meme counting XXP

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link

Not all rich dudes are arrogant. Elon Musk has never struck me as anything close to that.

― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, August 12, 2013 6:13 PM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Lmao some of the posts up thread are crazy

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 22:32 (one year ago) link

i defended elon musk for a long time because i thought it would be a good thing for humanity, overall, to move to electric vehicles

good lord though, at what cost, AT WHAT COST

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 22:37 (one year ago) link

I think it's dumb that he's throwing around numbers when he doesn't even have a working prototype. It just seems like he's hoping to derail the other project.

― wk, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:15 PM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

re hyperloop derailing sf > la high speed rail, he did years later admit to this

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 22:38 (one year ago) link

tiktok is fine if you want to laugh _at_ people, but other than that it's either vile or extremely stupid.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

i like twitter and will be sad when the guy in the thread title destroys it.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

i do think it would be kind of funny if he destroyed it not by turning it into a right wing hell hole or gutting its workforce but by trying to turn it into x, the everything app

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link

kinda think hes not going to do all that much, tho just letting trump back on would be bad for the world

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link

I like my part of twitter and Elon Musk can fuck off and die in a hole full of raw sewage.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link

he will change it like 3%, not noticeable to norms, annoying to some journos but THE EXPOSURE. dems will flap their arms without impact. 60% of any remaining left presence that even still plays with it will go someplace else, and GOP/authoritarian majority will become permanent.

jk jk, i feel better now. (gets out tracking sheet for future accuracy evals).

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 23:44 (one year ago) link

The question is, how long will you be able to live in ignorance as more and more of the machinery of our culture becomes branches for TikTok

A real culture doesn't shift at the speed at which TikTok memes emerge and are replaced.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 04:15 (one year ago) link

Wont kids get bored with TikTok in 5 years and move onto something else like they did with Myspace and Facebook and Livejournal all of which were huge at their peaks? Let em all rot.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 04:17 (one year ago) link

Yep, that think piece just panders to FOMO.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 04:24 (one year ago) link

I saw an interesting article (on Twitter, lol) claiming that no social media site has yet been able to pull themselves out once they start declining. So good luck Facebook, Twitter, etc.

frogbs, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 14:03 (one year ago) link

ive seen some big journalist accounts saying twitter got too aggressive for them, wonder if that was due to the maga influx, not the best people to have around

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 14:08 (one year ago) link

Kids do use groups chats in regular text messaging a lot I think

the ultimate private social media I suppose

One of these days some rebellious kids are going to want to actually meet irl and hang out

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 14:23 (one year ago) link

My 14 yo daughter and her friends almost exclusively use Snapchat for messaging.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link

my daughter (12) uses gchat

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 15:07 (one year ago) link

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/09/11/snapchat-layoffs-apple-tiktok/

Snapchat’s active user base surged to 350 million people per day, more than Twitter, Pinterest and Reddit. By 2022 it was the fifth-largest U.S.-based social media platform by active users, behind only Meta’s Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp and Google’s YouTube. An April survey by Pew Research found that 59 percent of American teens use Snapchat, while 15 percent said they use it “almost constantly.”

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link

thats crazy considering snapchats stock is down more than anyones

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link

i guess the problem is teens are poor and they grow up into tiktok users.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 15:58 (one year ago) link

what the hell is Snapchat good for that the other apps aren't? blows my mind that that's the one which took off. I remember when it was introduced the founders would do interviews and be unable to explain why exactly disappearing messages were good. outside of **that reason**

frogbs, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link

product design is like that its mysterious you have to be steve jobs to understand

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

60% of any remaining left presence that even still plays with it will go someplace else

Can't count the number of thoughtful memorials to Mike Davis I've seen on Twitter today. I don't know if this is regional thing maybe, or we're using different interpretations of "left", or possibly the issue is with the specific content of your feed?

That article quoted about TikTok is just the stupidest. I don't think there's ever been a "cultural" phenomenon so thoroughly manufactured by international neoliberalism, what a myopic and shallow understanding they present there.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link

yeah left twitter still seems pretty strong havent noticed any mass disappearances, twitters a good place for angry people lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

ha, yeah i think current defs of leftiness are vague in usa after the last 50 yrs, esp in my old age bracket. there i simply meant left-of-lib and strong anti-capitalism. xp

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 16:23 (one year ago) link

snapchat - the appeal of using a social media app yoru parents are not on

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link

also, one they can't pry into to see what you posted last week

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

Snapchat’s active user base surged to 350 million people per day, more than Twitter, Pinterest and Reddit.

Pinterest?
What does anyone do on Pinterest? Collect photos and 'pin' them to your wall? Gimme a break.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link

people, women mostly, seem to use it for shopping reminders/inspo, ask the women in you life if they have a desk/dress/yarn board its a whole hidden world

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link

Their 'sign in NOW!' wall is so fierce that I've never had a chance to peruse it

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link

yeah i always felt like it was more just a centralized bookmarking tool for mood boards than a social network but maybe people use it socially

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

i think yes but also you look at other peoples boards to find stuff for your boards

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgAtFMhXwAAF7lE?format=png&name=small

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

some of you are really telling on yourself in this thread

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

What’s a computer?

(Eat y’self fitter)

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

who uses

https://pinboard.in/

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

That is one I actually do use. I started using it after the previous bookmarking service shut down.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

i used to follow him on twitter when he was just making fun of silicon valley, then he got super into dem politics, an arrogant man

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

its cool how he just runs that site himself and keeps everything on a couple servers tho, living the dream

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

i've met him. he's nice! he's terrible on twitter though.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

iirc he's taking the year off. maybe he'll be better when he comes back, or maybe he won't come back.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

true old schoolers like to write down their favorite websites and keep the list in the top drawer

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link

"the web drawer"

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link

The site works great. I've been keeping bookmarks there since 2005.

I can't remember what the prior one was called.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link

delicious

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link

Yes! del.icio.us

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link

jfc

Entering Twitter HQ – let that sink in! pic.twitter.com/D68z4K2wq7

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 26, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link

"How's it going, everybody? You're all fired! OK, not all of you. You, you, you, not you. You, you, you, not you."

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

sounds like it's done. "you'll all hear directly from elon on friday" from current leadership to staff.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

have fun making $1.2 billion a year in interest payments

, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

i will fine

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link

no one thinks he will pay $54.20 per share for twtr. no one.

― Yerac, Sunday, May 15, 2022 1:16 PM (five months ago) bookmarkflaglink

no, he's just not stupid enough to overpay that much for TWTR.

― Yerac, Sunday, May 15, 2022 4:01 PM (five months ago) bookmarkflaglink

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link

shades of George Constanza's house in the Hamptons.. he's gonna ride this out as long as possible: "So, eh, where would my office be if I did go through with the deal?"

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link

xp what’s the point of this

barry sito (gyac), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link

That he is stupid enough?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link

everyone thought he was gonna be able to wriggle his way out of this one lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link

its cool how he just runs that site himself and keeps everything on a couple servers tho, living the dream

― lag∞n, Wednesday, October 26, 2022 1:42 PM (thirty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

there was some point in recent times when he emailed all the early pinboard users saying "hey, I know you paid a small amount way back to get a lifetime subscription to this site but hosting it's gotten kind of pricey could I get a few more bucks"

I was like, should have asked before you got super obnoxious on twitter about politics sorry buddy

mh, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link

haa

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link

everyone thought he was gonna be able to wriggle his way out of this one lol


Yeah i know, whole thread is echoes of the same sentiment. That’s why I’m asking.

barry sito (gyac), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link

i must admit i don't really understand the focus on the share price and how much extra money he has to pay compared to what twitter is worth. if there's a chance he's going to go bankrupt or something, i guess i'm interested. but am i wrong to see buying twitter as not an investment but control of a global loudhorn for someone who is obsessed with his own celebrity? i'm always hearing that these super wealthy people are about to finally eat shit but no, i don't think he will. paying an extra 20 billion for twitter, when you have $200B+ and you also have tesla (i know) and spacex (i know)?

however i'm not a finance guy and so maybe the main takeaway here is that it's bad for twitter investors or whatever

xposts

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

are we really ready for an all-electric twitter?

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link

I think there is a certain delight in seeing supposed geniuses, especially obnoxious ones like Elon, fail spectacularly.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

I think its not just that he's wildly overpaying but also that the writing seems to be on the wall for Twitter so he's gonna left holding the bag when everything goes South. who knows though he'll probably convince the US government to spend $5 billion bailing him out so long as he promises to unban all the Nazis

frogbs, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:32 (one year ago) link

i guess i see it like when jeff bezos bought the washington post. i don't know how much he paid for it. let's say he overpaid by like 2x, just a ridiculous overpay, like the twitter thing.

but who cares? newspapers don't make money. twitter doesn't make money. bezos and musk could both just subsidize the total financial failure of both companies, out of pocket, or by getting donations from their friends. "you in for $5B to float twitter for another 5 years? should be fun -- elon"

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link

didn't mean to pick on yerac in particular, other than in her capacity as an actual finance expert. a lot of people have been comically wrong about what would happen. that was my point.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link

he agreed the price at twitter's absolute top of its value, and it's near zenith of cultural relevance.

total fuck up. he can't fix it. (someone paste this when he fixes it.)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:35 (one year ago) link

You edited out a few posts in the middle, so yeah, it came across exactly how it did. I would be less fast to point out someone else’s wrongness - not their singular wrongness, given people have assumed the same- if I had posted this in the past month but you know.

just curious why anyone in the uk gives a shit about interest rates given how the mortgage market there works.

barry sito (gyac), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link

xp to Karl

Bezos paid $250 million in cash for the Post. Since he made it private, it's impossible to tell if that was a good financial decision (and as you said, he clearly did not buy it as a pure investment)

rob, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

twitter does make money, but now it likely won't (at least under GAAP accounting), because of the interest it has to pay, xp to karl

, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

I mean yeah I think people constantly underestimate just how stacked the deck is in favor of people like this. they can't fuck up no matter how hard they try. Donald Trump committed like 57 different crimes in office that would get a person like me the death penalty in 57 different ways and yet he just walks around his golf club all day. this Twitter deal looks like one of the stupidest rich guy decisions in history but I have no doubt his finance guys will find a way to make money while completely torpedoing the company. thats America, baby!

frogbs, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

I always hope for the big social platforms to die, so hoping for this outcome atm

barry sito (gyac), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

Newspapers are profitable. They’re just not profitable ENOUGH to keep Wall Street scumbags happy, so they get bought and sold back and forth among the vulture class.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

he agreed the price at twitter's absolute top of its value

not quite true - twtr was a lot higher in 2021. if he'd made an offer in 2021 when twtr was trading in the $70s, the offer would probably have been $142.069. relative to that, he thought he was getting a bargain at just $54.20, but failed to account for the fed!

, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:43 (one year ago) link

xp to rob $250M in cash! the brinks delivery people must have felt like badasses on that day!

but still, that entire investment is a rounding error to Bezos. less than 1% of his net worth, in fact far less than that (.0017)

to compare, i have in the neighborhood of $10K left to live on. a "Washington Post" to me is $17. Less than a twenty dollar bill. I could take a 20 dollar bill and light it on fire and it would be like buying the post and burning it to the ground, on Bezos terms

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:43 (one year ago) link

Twitter was much more expensive, on relative terms, of course ($50 billion to musk's ~$200B). i realize that's still a lot of money, even to musk

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link

Oh hey

On the @Reuters wire: EXCLUSIVE-TESLA FACES U.S. CRIMINAL PROBE OVER ITS AUTOPILOT TECHNOLOGY-SOURCES

— Dan Levine (@FedcourtJunkie) October 26, 2022

barry sito (gyac), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

we just need something bad to happen to tesla now

lol xp

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link

hell yeah! finally i'm starting to understand this whole "thoughts and prayers" obsession, it really works!

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

relative to that, he thought he was getting a bargain at just $54.20, but failed to account for the fed!

― 龜, Wednesday, October 26, 2022 3:43 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he failed to account for a lot!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link

he should have hired an accountant

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link

it's true

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link

They usually take things into account.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

good calls

We have closed our long position in Twitter. pic.twitter.com/wsmbhxtyz9

— Hindenburg Research (@HindenburgRes) October 4, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

not a finance expert caek. I don't remember the context five months ago on this one messageboard but it did drop back down into the 30s for quite some time after. People made money both ways. I don't work there and i don't like the company or even the stock but it made a lot of people money on the news cycles. But most people who were trading it are glad it's over this week.

Yerac, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

lmao he's in the building the stock price is still only $53.40. seems like trust in him is shot to the extent that next time he tries to buy a public company a board will be able to reject a strong $ offer on fiduciary grounds just because he's such a liar.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:00 (one year ago) link

This always happens. Look at ATVI. People play arbitrage but it's dead money. Who wants that tied up when the difference is so little.

Yerac, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

i went through an public-private with a company at $16. the stock price was $15.85-$15.95 for four months. a dollar seems like a pretty big implied risk.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link

and xxp didn't mean to pick on you in particular. everyone was very confident about what would happen. most of us were wrong. just struck me as a particularly unequivocal claim about what people think, from someone who would be in a position to know what smart people would think (or what conventional wisdom was). enough that i remembered it 6 months later, which is more than i can say about my own posts.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link

I probably do not understand what you are trying to say then.

Yerac, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link

"Hindenburg" is a rather ominous name for a company that is supposed to be about the future.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

he literally tried every conceivable way to get out of the deal. It is a terrible deal. Everyone realizes this.

Yerac, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

xp
I was thinking the same thing, so went to their web site and learned they picked that name intentionally, because they focus on finding companies that are close to self-destruction.

nickn, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:09 (one year ago) link

Oh, the humanity

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link

they publish short reports. they were shorting twtr like everyone else in the world when elon was trying to get out of it and then they went long when it looked like he was stuck.

Yerac, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

xxp oh for sure. but "no one thinks he will pay $54.20 per share for twtr. no one." is a statement that conventional wisdom was that he would succeed in getting out of the deal. which it was!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

again, i probably have no clue what you are trying to say. well done. look at the big dick on caek.

Yerac, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

my point is not that you were wrong. if you want me to try to explain more clearly then lmk, but if you don't care that's fine.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:15 (one year ago) link

i am good, i kind of have a memory about you working at twtr? but it's ok.

Yerac, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

it's never a good idea to make general points by quoting a specific poster. for some reason they take it personally.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:17 (one year ago) link

Like, literally I got pings that someone was being a dick about me when i haven't posted here in months and months.

Yerac, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:19 (one year ago) link

aimless, that's fair. yerac, sorry for doing that.

xxp yes i worked there until last month. it was weird. i wouldn't pay $46bn for it.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

so wait - carrying the sink into the lobby was just so he could tweet a pun? What is he, 14 years old?

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

That reeks of "Steve Jobs making his assistant get him a dress shirt five minutes before his McIntosh demo just so he could show that its floppy disks fit in a breast pocket" energy, except with less of a point

stank viola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

doing stupid stuff for the sake of a bad pun is good imo

micah, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link

Ehh, when you've publicly stated that you plan to lay off most of the workforce? Not necessarily a way to ingratiate yourself into the new digs

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link

I brought these leis for you from Hawaii.

Now I want you to count off from 1-10, and everyone with numbers 1-7, take them off

stank viola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

lol i finally got a chance to read the _dark forest_ thingy and saw the author and just lolled irl, it's been a long time since i thought about him. good enough piece though.

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 23:54 (one year ago) link

“elon musk will never actually buy twitter” is kind of the “no way donald trump would win a presidential election let alone be a serious candidate” of 2022 and ok, yeah, still doesn’t make a lot of sense

mh, Thursday, 27 October 2022 01:25 (one year ago) link

The difference is Trump wasn’t desperately trying to get out of being President

frogbs, Thursday, 27 October 2022 01:37 (one year ago) link

since this is the platform thread, is this good

Meta has lost almost 20 percent of its value since the stock market closed three hours ago. pic.twitter.com/P3N6ikcgYw

— Ernie Smith (@ShortFormErnie) October 26, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 October 2022 01:43 (one year ago) link

context is zuck had an earning call in which he announced their profits were way down and he planned to waste even more money on the metaverse

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 October 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link

If we allocate more to metaverse I think it might get some legs

Karl Malone, Thursday, 27 October 2022 01:58 (one year ago) link

Musk should buy Facebook, too.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 October 2022 02:05 (one year ago) link

then we'd have Facebook for celebrities/Facebook for everyone els e

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 27 October 2022 02:32 (one year ago) link

Zuck revealed a colosseum in the metaverse where David Fincher and Aaron Sorkin are forced to fight his programs

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 27 October 2022 03:22 (one year ago) link

The difference is Trump wasn’t desperately trying to get out of being President

― frogbs, Wednesday, October 26, 2022 8:37 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

There was a brief period during the primaries where it seemed like he was! That was an actual rumor, that he was trying to run but not win in order to boost his profile. I think a lot of the erratic behavior and what looked like self-sabotage wasn't him trying to get out of the job, though, it was just normal Trump (as we later figured out)

mh, Thursday, 27 October 2022 15:21 (one year ago) link

"Surely his promise to prevent all Muslims from entering the country will sink his candidacy."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 October 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link

i feel like trump taught people to be incredibly cynical about the rule of law, and mostly that was the right lesson, but it didn't apply here. wonder if delaware can run things for a while.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 27 October 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

so elon’s gonna re-platform trump, which will probably lead to facebook re-platforming trump because they don’t want to miss out on the ad dollars and engagement, right? which leads to trump 2024?

, Thursday, 27 October 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

Democracy will be strong enough to take it now that Biden has done so much for the American people.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 October 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/10/musk-visits-twitter-hq-promises-staff-he-wont-fire-75-of-them/

Musk has an October 28 deadline to complete the $44 billion Twitter purchase, stemming from an order by Delaware Court of Chancery Judge Kathaleen McCormick. Twitter sued Musk after he tried to break their merger agreement, and a trial was originally scheduled for October 17. McCormick's order delaying the trial said it will be rescheduled for November if the merger isn't completed by 5 pm tomorrow.

Twitter shares are due to be suspended from trading on Friday in anticipation of the closing. The stock price has been rising since Musk reversed course in early October in order to avoid a trial and is now close to the $54.20 per-share price that Musk agreed to pay.

also

Today, Musk posted a message for advertisers. "The reason I acquired Twitter is because it is important to the future of civilization to have a common digital town square, where a wide range of beliefs can be debated in a healthy manner, without resorting to violence. There is currently great danger that social media will splinter into far right wing and far left wing echo chambers that generate more hate and divide our society," he wrote.

After spending months trying to get out of the merger deal, Musk told advertisers he is buying Twitter "to try to help humanity, whom I love." Attempting to convince companies that they should buy ads on the platform, he wrote that "Twitter obviously cannot become a free-for-all hellscape, where anything can be said with no consequences! In addition to adhering to the laws of the land, our platform must be warm and welcoming to all, where you can choose your desired experience according to your preferences, just as you can choose, for example, to see movies or play video games ranging from all ages to mature."

He went on to say that Twitter must show users "advertising that is as relevant as possible to their needs. Low relevancy ads are spam, but highly relevant ads are actually content! Fundamentally, Twitter aspires to be the most respected advertising platform in the world that strengthens your brand and grows your enterprise."

Karl Malone, Thursday, 27 October 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link

sounds like everything's gonna be fine then

highly relevant ads are actually content! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 27 October 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link

So glad I don’t use Twitter and have no stakes in this except wanting it to fucking fail and wanting Musk embarrassed and preferably dead

poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Thursday, 27 October 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

but highly relevant ads are actually content!

gag me with the proverbial spoon.. I've been hearing versions of this for a few years now, trying to convince us that we'll come tolike ads if we only get to see the right ones for us. This is some Phillip K Dick bullshit

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 27 October 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

If ads are the new content they should pay me to read sites.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 October 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

which is the far left echo chamber network and how do I sign up

rob, Thursday, 27 October 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

lmao

Jim Cramer is tearing up over $META

Generational bottom in process pic.twitter.com/3tICGm6qoi

— Inverse Cramer ETF (Not Jim Cramer) (@CramerTracker) October 27, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 October 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

xp you're posting on it right now :)

frogbs, Thursday, 27 October 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

haha "inverse cramer etf"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 27 October 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link

"Musk said his primary motivation for buying the company is to ensure the “future of civilization.” He said the goal is to preserve a “common digital town square,” where people with wide-ranging beliefs can debate their views without resorting to violence, rather than splintering into “far right-wing and far left-wing echo chambers.”

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 27, 2022"

This guy really has a savior complex

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 27 October 2022 19:35 (one year ago) link

he sure is into the idea that the main purpose of town squares is the holding of debates.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 27 October 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link

for everyone looking to move to mastodon now that twitter's dying, i have some news for you: Evidence Of Ancient Giants Unearthed In Vietnam

— big baby (wailing) (@dec_in_stone) October 27, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 October 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

Very soon, Elon will be Twitter's only employee, circling the earth high above us in a Space X pod, saving civilization one unmoderated tweet at a time... Silent Running on social media

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 27 October 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

The $TSLA Cyberquad for kids has been recalled for not meeting safety standards https://t.co/UhZPHV2O9w via @verge

— BertelSchmitt™ 🇺🇦💉💉💉💉🎩🎩🎩🎩🎩 (@BertelSchmitt) October 27, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 October 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

As one of his first moves, he fired several top Twitter executives, according to three people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters. One of those confirmed the deal had closed.

CEO Parag Agrawal, chief financial officer Ned Segal, and Vijaya Gadde, head of legal policy, trust, and safety, were all fired, according to the people. Sean Edgett , the company’s general counsel, was also pushed out, one of the people said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/10/27/twitter-elon-musk

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 02:38 (one year ago) link

Previously reported to have declared that he will fire 75% of employees, which does not bode well for security, also he's been quite the troll on there from time to time, and the public square is already starting to smell strange. It's been fun, but I'm gone.

dow, Friday, 28 October 2022 02:59 (one year ago) link

deactivated deleted. my account sucked anyway, because idngaf about twitter, but it would be a shame if something really terrible happened to it or musk.

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Friday, 28 October 2022 04:59 (one year ago) link

you're leaving twitter? henry kissinger is still alive, and you're leaving twitter?

— Bobby Lewis (@revrrlewis) October 28, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 October 2022 07:00 (one year ago) link

the important thing about Elon buying twitter is we all have to act like Tumblr after Yahoo bought it. devalue this platform. make it much worse. stop "driving engagement" and start depression posting. block every promoted tweet. we can do this.

— Hazel Southwell (@HSouthwellFE) October 28, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 October 2022 09:39 (one year ago) link

I instinctively block promoted tweets (they make it easier than any other platform) and for a while 99% of my ads were for HIV/PREP drugs and then that transitioned to ads aimed at doctors trying to get people to take them.

(the old story about Target predicting a teenager's pregnancy based on the algorithm had me worried for about a minute when the first HIV ad popped up.)

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 28 October 2022 09:45 (one year ago) link

People saying they are going to leave because more bad ppl are going to come back assumes there aren't enough bad people posting today. Or that the situation was improving purely because a few accounts (Trump's) was finally put to rest. This is really, really not the case.

But if it becomes markedly worse at aggregation of opinion/news then it will be diminished.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 October 2022 10:18 (one year ago) link

Blue check marks for every scanner crimewatch account

Eric H., Friday, 28 October 2022 10:28 (one year ago) link

Lol at this discussion

Am I the only person who thinks you would lose something if we all retreated into our little soc media walled gardens?

— Tom Munday (@tommundaycs) October 28, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 October 2022 10:56 (one year ago) link

I've deactivated my barely used account. So you can look forward to a...slight reduction in embedded tweets on the uk pol thread.

nashwan, Friday, 28 October 2022 11:10 (one year ago) link

All of the “free speech” platforms are unusable right wing cesspools due to the lack of moderation. If Musk wants to turn Twitter into that, good for him, it will lose all of its value to advertisers.

treeship., Friday, 28 October 2022 11:30 (one year ago) link

Twitter already does a bad job rooting out the troll accounts, the frog picture people and whatever. What they do right now is ban the big accounts that violate their policies, like Trump. With those people back on it will make the site shittier though as the trolls will feel like it is “their” space, they’ll have more big tweets to congregate around.

treeship., Friday, 28 October 2022 11:37 (one year ago) link

musk already told advertisers that hes not going to make it a right wing free for all, who knows what hell actually do, but theres really no angle to making it a total shithole, theres no point in owning it if people stop using it, which is happening anyway lol

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 13:02 (one year ago) link

thanks, bro!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 October 2022 13:18 (one year ago) link

absolute power currupts tweets

| (Latham Green), Friday, 28 October 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgflip.com/1ibkfp.jpg

Musk about to let all the baddies back out.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 October 2022 13:44 (one year ago) link

the funny and likely thing that could happen here is musk making twitter more "free speech' causing advertisers and users to leave causing musk to roll back the free speech causing his loony fans to hate him

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link

hopefully its value drops to the point where it can one day join the ilx family of apps

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 14:23 (one year ago) link

lol Josh - "it's true, this man has no dick"

| (Latham Green), Friday, 28 October 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link

I love people who are posting things like, "Now that we have free speech on Twitter, I can say ..." and then proceed to post dumb shit that was already on Twitter all the time.

I still think the best analogy to this is rich guys buying newspapers, which was also traditionally much more for clout and bragging rights than as a business proposition. But also, those rich guys almost always end up getting antsy when it turns out it's hard to actually make money running a media company, and one thing most rich guys really don't like is losing money. It's inconceivable to me that even as big a troll as Elon will not want return on $44 billion. And the reality is, there are only a few ways to make money from a media platform, no matter how large — basically some combination of advertising and subscriptions. Musk is apparently banking heavily on the latter, which seems like a reach to me, but who knows. People pay for all kinds of things I guess.

I remember the big deal when Sam Zell bought Tribune...then unceremoniously dumped it.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 October 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link

Anyone who is willing to pay for access to tweets doesn't deserve respect of any kind.

poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Friday, 28 October 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

Like, a substack or a Patreon, I get it— oftentimes people are paying for long-form thinkpieces, or mixes, and they get something special out of supporting someone who isn't part of the regular media environment. Foxy Digitalis' return is a good example of this, at least in the music world.

But seriously— paying for some media asshole's tweets? Paying to access 280 character sharts? Please, only an absolute fucking dummy would do that.

poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Friday, 28 October 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link

I was thinking ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/14/technology/elon-musk-is-a-digital-citizen-kane.html

"But imagine that Musk eventually buys Twitter from the stockholders who own it today. The closest comparison to this might be the 19th-century newspaper barons like William Randolph Hearst, Joseph Pulitzer and the fictional Charles Foster Kane, who used their papers to pursue their personal agendas, sensationalize world events and harass their enemies."

| (Latham Green), Friday, 28 October 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link

Yep, but the difference is that at that point newspapers were pretty good business propositions.

Sam Zell destroyed the Tribune, and the assholes he hired there were like a preview of the Trump administration.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 October 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link

subscriptions will never work for twitter. it will fail just like ilx premium did.

treeship., Friday, 28 October 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

Maybe Twitter needs a 77 board

x post what if you had to pay to cancel?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 October 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link

Not surprisingly, as a long-time poster on a tiny niche message board, I kind of feel like all the big social media platforms are lame and the internet was better when it was made up mostly of small niche blogs and boards. So its hard for me to get too worked up about what will happen to Twitter.

o. nate, Friday, 28 October 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

Yeah I don't want to downplay its significance (e.g. Trump), but people on Twitter vastly overrate Twitter's actual importance.

"LIMITED OFFER: Get a FREE Twitter account when you buy any dozen at participating Krispy Kreme™ Doughnuts! Open your account today!"

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 28 October 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link

A lot of the freakout over the acquisition of Twitter seems to be the particular kind of upper-middle-class ladder-climbing liberal media professional just manifesting anxieties that there are massive structural disincentives in place to prevent. That Verge piece linked about goes into it well.

Musk can’t do all the nightmare horde unleashing that media types fret about and dumbass online rightwing trolls slather over because it would make the userbase flee in droves, and that userbase is the thing that gives the platform its relevancy Musk do desperately wants.

From that Verge post:

Here are some examples: you can write as many polite letters to advertisers as you want, but you cannot reasonably expect to collect any meaningful advertising revenue if you do not promise those advertisers “brand safety.” That means you have to ban racism, sexism, transphobia, and all kinds of other speech that is totally legal in the United States but reveals people to be total assholes. So you can make all the promises about “free speech” you want, but the dull reality is that you still have to ban a bunch of legal speech if you want to make money. And when you start doing that, your creepy new right-wing fanboys are going to viciously turn on you, just like they turn on every other social network that realizes the same essential truth.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 28 October 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

Yeah I don't want to downplay its significance (e.g. Trump), but people on Twitter vastly overrate Twitter's actual importance.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, October 28, 2022 12:41 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

would say its importance is generally underrated eg the famous expression twitter is not real life, it has reach way beyond the platform, watch any cable news show and like half of it is them reading tweets, trump obvs the ultimate example he prob wouldnt have won without it, having said that i do think it peaked a while ago and will be fairly irrelevant before long, for instance athletes are way more likely to post on instagram these days than twitter where a few years ago if you watched espn it was full of tweets

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

I don't know, if it's all about the grift then can't he just charge right wing advertisers and cons political players and the like a lot of money, a la Trump overcharging people to stay in his hotel?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 October 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link

Yeah I don't want to downplay its significance (e.g. Trump), but people on Twitter vastly overrate Twitter's actual importance

Definitely, and I think it works from the ego entanglement and self-identification and self-branding that the particular kind of user who needs social media to exist as a promotional tool. The network they identify with just simply must be important because they view themselves as very important people.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 28 October 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link

that sounds weirdly like an argument for its importance

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link

every sentence in that verge piece makes sense, but i think this is the correct take on it

imagine going up to elon of all people and being like Sir you have to take your job seriously

— stephanie (@isosteph) October 28, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 28 October 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link

also this is terrible

You fucked up real good, kiddo.

Twitter is a disaster clown car company that is successful despite itself,

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link

Here are some examples: you can write as many polite letters to advertisers as you want, but you cannot reasonably expect to collect any meaningful advertising revenue if you do not promise those advertisers “brand safety.” That means you have to ban racism, sexism, transphobia, and all kinds of other speech that is totally legal in the United States but reveals people to be total assholes. So you can make all the promises about “free speech” you want, but the dull reality is that you still have to ban a bunch of legal speech if you want to make money. And when you start doing that, your creepy new right-wing fanboys are going to viciously turn on you, just like they turn on every other social network that realizes the same essential truth.

I'd like for this to be true, I hope it's true, but I'll believe it when I see it.

DPRK in Cincinnati (WmC), Friday, 28 October 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link

I don't know, if it's all about the grift then can't he just charge right wing advertisers and cons political players and the like a lot of money, a la Trump overcharging people to stay in his hotel?

Not enough advertisers in that market niche, but more importantly, doing that kills all the cache Musk compulsively needs.

So much of what Musk does can be seen as just a dumb rich guy/con man who so desperately wants social legitimacy from a certain cadre of the cultural establishment. (Kinda like Trump and Vince McMahon in the 80s, come to think of it.) There’s a reason he went on SNL.

The other half is just hype shit up to keep the government contracts coming, and to kill any project like high-speed rail in California or elsewhere that might encroach on the shitty car company he bought.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 28 October 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link

people on Twitter vastly overrate Twitter's actual importance

Ha.. In MAU's (monthly active users), it's below platforms I've never even heard of.. it's even below Pinterest!

1. Facebook — 2.9 billion MAUs
2. YouTube — 2.2 billion MAUs
3. WhatsApp — 2 billion MAUs
4. Instagram — 2 billion MAUs
5. Facebook Messenger — 1.3 billion MAUs
6. WeChat — 1.26 billion MAUs
7. TikTok — 1 billion MAUs
8. Sina Weibo — 573 million MAUs
9. QQ — 538.91 million MAUs
10. Telegram — 550 million MAUs
11. Snapchat — 538 million MAUs
12. Kuaishou — 519.8 million MAUs
13. Qzone — 517 million MAUs
14. Pinterest — 444 million MAUs
15. Twitter — 436 million MAUs

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 28 October 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link

people who work in media use it so it has an outsized influence on the culture

treeship., Friday, 28 October 2022 17:00 (one year ago) link

it is where consent is manufactured

treeship., Friday, 28 October 2022 17:00 (one year ago) link

one of the problems with twitter as a business is that its niche as a broadcast platform for powerful, famous, and various other power users way outclasses the baseline numbers that advertisers care about

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link

I'd like for this to be true, I hope it's true, but I'll believe it when I see it.

― DPRK in Cincinnati (WmC), Friday, October 28, 2022 12:57 PM (nine seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

it is true advertisers are very picky about this stuff

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link

also, it’s a private company without any meaningful regulatory comms framework? (such as might be produced by the FCC or Ofcom). why would anyone/Musk care apart from a revenue/profitability pov?

overreliance on a non-publicly regulated or owned company for communications strategy is a problem, right?!

What *are* the US regulatory frameworks that cover twitter?

Fizzles, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

the outsized nature of it as a platform for pols, companies and media definitely has an impact.

Fizzles, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

you dont see your uncles facebook posts complaining about masks or whatever slapped up on cnn too much

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

xp the FTC. it's under a consent decree right now. none of that changes with it going private. https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2022/05/twitter-pay-150-million-penalty-allegedly-breaking-its-privacy-promises-again

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 28 October 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

yeah "importance" is too ambiguous a term really, but lagoon is otm

rob, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

there's also the infamous https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230

rob, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:05 (one year ago) link

it's the only social network that gets mentioned regularly on TV news. seems like denial to say it's not "important". it's probably becoming less important.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 28 October 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

will be interesting to see how the "repeal 230" right respond to this change of ownership. seems like its repeal would be a danger to musk personally now haha.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 28 October 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

that’s interesting caek, thanks. makes sense it’s on the data management side.

Fizzles, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

wonder what happens after twitter, notice a lot of non american journalists celebrities and whatnot have channels on messaging apps telegram wechat etc that people can subscribe to, americans have never really gotten into those mega chat apps tho, maybe someone should create x

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

it's the only social network that gets mentioned regularly on TV news. seems like denial to say it's not "important". it's probably becoming less important.

How important is TV news?

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 28 October 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

definitely important, for all the reasons stated. it’s interesting it has such importance with so little regulation. in other areas i’d say regulation was slow in catching up, on the comms (not the data) side im not so sure. feels like the publisher/platform difficulty is a genuinely problematic area.

Fizzles, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

that was an xpost rather than a response to the tv news point!

Fizzles, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

it's subject to local laws too. i don't know much about DSA but it seems like it should be on his radar.

👋 @elonmusk

In Europe, the bird will fly by our 🇪🇺 rules.#DSA https://t.co/95W3qzYsal

— Thierry Breton (@ThierryBreton) October 28, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 28 October 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link

my instinct rn is that unless musk rly fucks up the high profile users and many others won’t go anywhere.

Fizzles, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link

yeah europe def has the capacity to hamstring the business model - just look at GDPR.

Fizzles, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

seems like section 230 tbh (but unlikely to be repealed, unlike 230) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Services_Act#New_obligations_on_platform_companies

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 28 October 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

maybe they start making subtwitters to cater to niches - ie. /garfield

| (Latham Green), Friday, 28 October 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

yeah europe def has the capacity to hamstring the business model - just look at GDPR.


Germany has all those content regulations as well.
my instinct rn is that unless musk rly fucks up the high profile users and many others won’t go anywhere.


Idk people always say this about social platforms. I remember spending most of my time on livejournal circa 2008-2012 or so and you could never have told me I’d permanently delete my account I’d had on there since 2004 only a year or two later. When platforms go to shit, it happens fast.

barry sito (gyac), Friday, 28 October 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link

Twitter has largely replaced PR firm press releases... I remember Whoopie Goldberg eulogizing Lou Reed on twitter (!) rather than quietly sending flowers to his widow.. in that respect, it's dirt cheap and purely performative

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link

Oh lol at my half thought fucking up the quote anyway YOU GET WHAT I MEAN

barry sito (gyac), Friday, 28 October 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link

i do and it’s absolutely right. things don’t change v much until they do very rapidly.

Fizzles, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:18 (one year ago) link

Twitter has largely replaced PR firm press releases... I remember Whoopie Goldberg eulogizing Lou Reed on twitter (!) rather than quietly sending flowers to his widow.. in that respect, it's dirt cheap and purely performative


and i don’t know whether it’s this way elsewhere but in the UK the best way to ensure a corporate response - as a standard helpdesk way of working rather than going full karen - is via twitter. theres business models have got rid of comms channels other than twitter to convey up to date info.

Fizzles, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link

lol i have been trying all day to get hold of a large publisher's publicity dept (via phone, via email and via twitter) and none of these avenues work

i blame elon musk

mark s, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

lol ok maybe just add twitter to the ways people won’t respond to you.

Fizzles, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link

:(

mark s, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link

no not that face! not you personally! i just mean channels of non-communication from businesses and people.

Fizzles, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

it is true advertisers are very picky about this stuff

― lag∞n, Friday, October 28, 2022 12:01 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

how many advertisers still run ads on Tucker's show? its the most watched thing on cable news but I know for a while it was nothing but ads for reverse mortgages and My Pillow

frogbs, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link

yeah the ads across fox news are all over priced gold coins and reverse mortgages lol

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link

fwiw even with the efforts of the previous regime twitter still made less money per user than the other comparable sites because of the problem of being a bit of a hell hole

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link

That Verge piece linked about goes into it well.

otm. once I found time to read it, it felt like the author accurately puts his finger upon the many constraints Twitter faces and how little Musk can do about them without ruining Twitter even worse and fucking himself out of billions of dollars. def worth a read.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 28 October 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

the most muskian playbook here, considering his history with tesla, would be to manipulate the media into inflating twitters valuation, gonna be a lot harder than just saying full self driving is a year away every year tho

cut costs introduce some new features juice the numbers then take it public with the hope that the fanboys will buy it up

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

what happens when twitter bursts into flames

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 28 October 2022 18:39 (one year ago) link

🙏🙏🙏

Congratulations to @elonmusk Maybe now I can get @verified pic.twitter.com/nlij2dPnnr

— O.J. Simpson (@TheRealOJ32) October 28, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 October 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

what a lovely welcome

Evidence suggests that bad actors are trying to test the limits on @Twitter. Several posts on 4chan encourage users to amplify derogatory slurs.

For example, over the last 12 hours, the use of the n-word has increased nearly 500% from the previous average. pic.twitter.com/mEqziaWuMF

— Network Contagion Research Institute (@ncri_io) October 28, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

I reported someone for the usual shit and had a message saying they’d nuked the account within about an hour, which is as good as unheard of. They’ve obvs been ready for such an onslaught.

piscesx, Friday, 28 October 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

Dropping mad N-words to welcome Trump back into the fold

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 28 October 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link

Hey @elonmusk - you now have the power to bring back Vine. Seriously. Vine ruled AND it'll be a TikTok killer. #BringBackVine

— Noam Blum (@neontaster) October 28, 2022

I had forgotten Twitter was the company that bought and shut down Vine.

o. nate, Friday, 28 October 2022 19:38 (one year ago) link

Vines problem was the videos were too short for the brain to comprehend imo

but many vines live on - on tiktok
sweet vine of grapes

| (Latham Green), Friday, 28 October 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

vine was too good for this world

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Elon Musk says no banned Twitter accounts will be restored before a review by new "content moderation council."

— philip lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) October 28, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

I reported someone for the usual shit and had a message saying they’d nuked the account within about an hour, which is as good as unheard of. They’ve obvs been ready for such an onslaught.

― piscesx, Friday, October 28, 2022 3:26 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

their policies and their implementation of those policies is not perfect, but it's pretty good, and a lot better than it was 3-4 years ago. unfortunately the person responsible for that was fired yesterday.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 28 October 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk says no banned Twitter accounts will be restored before a review by new "content moderation council."

https://cinema1544.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/bill-and-ted-future-dudes.jpg?w=1020&h=446

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 October 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

I have noticed that every trending topic I've seen today is some right wing bullshit. I'm assuming it's conservatives feeling themselves about now.

i find this facebook tankie extremely annoying, but this seems obviously true?

I think @elonmusk has made a huge mistake, making himself the global face of content moderation at a critical moment of struggle with governments, while maintaining massive personal exposure to challenging countries.

— Alex Stamos (@alexstamos) October 28, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 28 October 2022 21:31 (one year ago) link

I guess General Motors has already begun cancelling advertising..?

I know another car company that can take up the slack!

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 28 October 2022 22:20 (one year ago) link

_people on Twitter vastly overrate Twitter's actual importance_

Ha.. In MAU's (monthly active users), it's below platforms I've never even heard of.. it's even below Pinterest!

1. Facebook — 2.9 billion MAUs
2. YouTube — 2.2 billion MAUs
3. WhatsApp — 2 billion MAUs
4. Instagram — 2 billion MAUs
5. Facebook Messenger — 1.3 billion MAUs
6. WeChat — 1.26 billion MAUs
7. TikTok — 1 billion MAUs
8. Sina Weibo — 573 million MAUs
9. QQ — 538.91 million MAUs
10. Telegram — 550 million MAUs
11. Snapchat — 538 million MAUs
12. Kuaishou — 519.8 million MAUs
13. Qzone — 517 million MAUs
14. Pinterest — 444 million MAUs
15. Twitter — 436 million MAUs


if the ones you haven’t heard of are any of the following: Sina Weibo, QQ, Kuaishou and Qzone - these are all Chinese platforms (as is WeChat)

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 28 October 2022 23:11 (one year ago) link

my suggested topics are always useless garbage - oh you follow AOC and Ilhan Omar, you definitely want to see every attempt at a fascist hashtag!

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 28 October 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link

Ed Zitron:

In short, Musk bought a company with a product that’s somewhat difficult to describe for reasons he has had a great deal of trouble elucidating. He didn’t want Twitter, he wanted to prove he could buy it, and he wanted everybody to think it was cool, which they did not. He has spent $44 billion in an attempt to make people love him only to be left with a very expensive way to make people angry at him every single day for the rest of his life.

https://ez.substack.com/p/the-death-of-the-boy-genius

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Saturday, 29 October 2022 00:19 (one year ago) link

what a fn dickhole

Here it is: Twitter engineers were told today to *print out* their last 30 to 60 days of code, so they could show it to Elon Musk himself.

Then they were told wait, no, actually, please shred all that code you just printed out.

Subscribe to read ➡️https://t.co/ad9XTdVQhJ pic.twitter.com/sbO8tD8hGN

— Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton) October 28, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 29 October 2022 00:31 (one year ago) link

learn to shred

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 29 October 2022 00:36 (one year ago) link

Here are some examples: you can write as many polite letters to advertisers as you want, but you cannot reasonably expect to collect any meaningful advertising revenue if you do not promise those advertisers “brand safety.” That means you have to ban racism, sexism, transphobia, and all kinds of other speech that is totally legal in the United States but reveals people to be total assholes. So you can make all the promises about “free speech” you want, but the dull reality is that you still have to ban a bunch of legal speech if you want to make money. And when you start doing that, your creepy new right-wing fanboys are going to viciously turn on you, just like they turn on every other social network that realizes the same essential truth.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/28/23428132/elon-musk-twitter-acquisition-problems-speech-moderation

death generator (lukas), Saturday, 29 October 2022 00:53 (one year ago) link

This isn’t the worst strategy to find terrible engineering managers and Twitter is supposedly filled with terrible engineering managers.

Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 29 October 2022 02:34 (one year ago) link

Without personal knowledge of Twitter infrastructure, I’d bet Musk is right that it’s a mess and over-staffed. Do I think he can fix that? Nope!

Wiki Foundation, for reference, spends about 100m annually.

Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 29 October 2022 02:37 (one year ago) link

Musk doesn’t even know how to read code, as has been shown repeatedly.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 29 October 2022 02:47 (one year ago) link

Like, he’s had to have people walk him through installing and running stuff off GitHub.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 29 October 2022 02:48 (one year ago) link

some sort of stunt to keep the troops on their toes type of thing youd see in a movie im sure it went over well in real life and the workers arent say brazenly posting your code to twitter cause they dont give a shit

Happy Friday all. pic.twitter.com/Rk9m1v1hmu

— Leah Culver (@leahculver) October 28, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 29 October 2022 02:51 (one year ago) link

a social network with constantly shifting functionality would be cool, you always have to figure out whats going on like a game, of course no one would use it and it would fail

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgPXv2mXgAAIlky?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Saturday, 29 October 2022 13:30 (one year ago) link

isnt it already this?

i mean it already fails lol but assuming we're not talking the kinds of multiple outage-dysfunction that accelerated livejournal's shift into the twilight

mark s, Saturday, 29 October 2022 13:39 (one year ago) link

just had a vision of the revenant failwhale as moorcock's GHANH (aka the key denizen of a sharknado) returned from the chamber of the dead by corum's hideous jewelled eye

mark s, Saturday, 29 October 2022 13:40 (one year ago) link

elric musk 😔

mark s, Saturday, 29 October 2022 13:41 (one year ago) link

Can't believe @elonmusk bought Teletext. pic.twitter.com/HPE6EDBY3F

— Mr Biffo (@mrbiffo) October 28, 2022

calzino, Saturday, 29 October 2022 13:42 (one year ago) link

isnt it already this?

― mark s, Saturday, October 29, 2022 9:39 AM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

to an extent, but change is too slow and iterative, ai will solve this

lag∞n, Saturday, 29 October 2022 13:54 (one year ago) link

or blockchain will solve this

Twitter founder Jack Dorsey's new Bluesky Social app is now accepting users for beta testing, and is set to launch "soon". https://t.co/e6LUiprjQV

— RELENTLESSLY Gay (@queertardo) October 28, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 29 October 2022 13:55 (one year ago) link

til jack dorsey was an ilxor viz poster blueski

mark s, Saturday, 29 October 2022 14:03 (one year ago) link

🐦[Can’t believe @elonmusk🕸 bought Teletext. pic.twitter.com/HPE6EDBY3F🕸
— Mr Biffo (@mrbiffo) October 28, 2022🕸]🐦


Quality work here, can’t believe Bamber Boozler died for this

barry sito (gyac), Saturday, 29 October 2022 14:05 (one year ago) link

Is Elon Musk that much worse than Jack Dorsey? I mean they are both the same ballpark of absolute cunts.

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 29 October 2022 14:11 (one year ago) link

richer = worse is how i break it down to an extent

mark s, Saturday, 29 October 2022 14:12 (one year ago) link

Is Elon Musk that much worse than Jack Dorsey? I mean they are both the same ballpark of absolute cunts.

― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, October 29, 2022 10:11 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

they seem pretty similar even beyond being horrible rich guys tbh, tho musk personally owning twitter is a pretty different set up than jack running it as ceo of a public company, guess well see how it plays out

lag∞n, Saturday, 29 October 2022 14:24 (one year ago) link

Musk is imo worse because he's a troll.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 October 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link

musk doesn't seem like a genius and the fact that he's operating in bad faith makes him worse/more dangerous than jack. but but jack dorsey is an actual moron. he reminds me of peter sellers in being there.

This isn’t the worst strategy to find terrible engineering managers and Twitter is supposedly filled with terrible engineering managers.

― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, October 28, 2022 10:34 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

i don't think this is true. the average manager of ICs or manager of managers at twitter is not unusually bad. the problem is 1) there are too many of them. the average number of reports for a line manager is low relative to the industry. you could fire half of them and not make much operational difference. 2) there's a culture of incompetence and extreme slowness among *their* managers, right the way to the top. can't imagine where that came from. (it came from jack.)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 29 October 2022 20:31 (one year ago) link

how do i become this clever?

Ok. It’s hitting me like a rock. Twitter is the social operating system for tesla. Hence tesla engineers already working with the code. It’s the software that can run communication and commerce through the tesla. Ok wow. $twtr $tsla

— Ross Gerber (@GerberKawasaki) October 29, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 29 October 2022 21:04 (one year ago) link

get hit with a rock?

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Saturday, 29 October 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link

Nah, it's gonna take at least a falling air conditioner.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 29 October 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link

it's hard for a disruptive technology, the system is stifling it. it has stuffed this one with middle management and ~feelings~ and shit.

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Saturday, 29 October 2022 22:38 (one year ago) link

What a guy. @elonmusk is making sure to fire people at Twitter before part of their year-end compensation *kicks in on Tuesday.* https://t.co/sEclZozKV5 pic.twitter.com/inw3vF0kIL

— Eric Umansky (@ericuman) October 29, 2022

, Sunday, 30 October 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link

Not surprising! I personally and anecdotally know of a ton of companies at the very least dropping contract employees right before a fiscal reporting deadline. Dropping off all contractors in software at the end of Q3 to pump up Q4 numbers, etc

might result in a big hiring spree Jan1, maybe not

mh, Sunday, 30 October 2022 02:41 (one year ago) link

he's also apparently firing senior staff for cause so he doesn't have to pay their golden parachutes. congratulations to the lawyers.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 30 October 2022 05:02 (one year ago) link

sounds like he really is going to try to fire ~50% of people before tuesday. absolutely nuts, almost certainly in violation of the WARN act.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 30 October 2022 06:07 (one year ago) link

When’s he ever had to suffer consequences for breaking the law before?

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, 30 October 2022 11:45 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk is now sharing conspiracy theory blog posts about the attack on Paul Pelosi. pic.twitter.com/XKolS7ogYd

— Matt Novak (@paleofuture) October 30, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 30 October 2022 12:28 (one year ago) link

They should ban him from ... oh.

Dumb question: He owns Twitter now, which is a private company, so if he fails to foster a safe workspace, or actively does stuff to make it unsafe by promoting, I dunno, homophobic conspiracy theories or whatever, are there any legal ramifications, or is he just free to fuck around all he wants? Does a worker have any recourse besides quitting? (Assuming any workers will be left.)

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 October 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link

no lawyer but does seem like someone could have a claim

lag∞n, Sunday, 30 October 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link

When’s he ever had to suffer consequences for breaking the law before?

I know the last 5–10 years have made people extremely cynical about the law but this guy was forced to buy twitter against his will by the courts.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 30 October 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link

Will be interesting to see if advertisers still want to spend money on a site whose owner uses it to post homophobic conspiracy theories in Hilary Clinton’s mentions.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 30 October 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

IANAL but i believe that it could very easily constitute creating a "hostile work environment" under civil rights and workplace harassment law. there must be a lot of case law by now where awful stuff the boss posted/shared on social media, right? i don't know, but you'd usually think someone with Musk's familiarity with right-wing online awfulness would focus very much on staying obnoxiously, trollishly on JUST the 'legal' side of things. (perhaps he will make the attempt, but totally fail because he is an egomaniacal moron, as this week has reminded everyone but his two million most sycophantic worldwide followers.)

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 30 October 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

anyone who's spent time reading abt the great fraudsters (bottomley, ponzi, madoff etc)* will discover that for all the time they spend as outrageous scofflaws getting away with everything all the time they are often very active under the surface (like a swans feet) compounding the fraud more and more incoherently to support the earlier fast-toppling stages = they get away with it until suddenly they don't, the very epitome of "how do you go bankrupt? first slowly, then quickly"

musk is extremely streeeeeeetched right now and increasingly hemmed in legally -- and maybe he'll get away with it! he's nominally (if not actually) the richest man in the world and has a tone of ppl who will still shill for him at any price, but he's also a massively dumb ecogmaniac who no one ever says no to

*(obviously the ones who quietly got away with much worse are nowhere listed as "great fraudsters")

mark s, Sunday, 30 October 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link

is this something: black swans feet

mark s, Sunday, 30 October 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link

musk Trump is extremely streeeeeeetched right now and increasingly hemmed in legally -- and maybe he'll get away with it! he's nominally (if not actually) the richest man in the world and has a tone of ppl who will still shill for him at any price, but he's also a massively dumb ecogmaniac who no one ever says no to

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 October 2022 15:56 (one year ago) link

trump deep in the brain stem

lag∞n, Sunday, 30 October 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

re elon as fraudster have wondered for a while if there isnt major accounting fraud somewhere in his business

lag∞n, Sunday, 30 October 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

Pretty sure some business columnists have tried to hint that without making outright accusations. His reliance on government subsidies and possible misuse of them, for example.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 30 October 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link

re elon as fraudster have wondered for a while if there isnt major accounting fraud somewhere in his business


this is one of the central tenets of #TSLAQ theory

, Sunday, 30 October 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link

I'm sure they'll charge him ... in 25 years.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 October 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

Mike, what’s Twitter’s Blind look like right now?

Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 30 October 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

In re: Josh. Even private companies legally have to respect a variety of worker's rights, as laid down in state and federal law. It's just that the worker usually must go to the trouble of hiring a lawyer and filing a complaint. obv, the top management people he fired can easily afford going down this avenue. lesser & non-unionized employees have a harder time drawing attention to their grievances, but the amount of publicity around this buyout and mass firing will assist them in that.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 30 October 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

everything going perfectly

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgVx2fZWIAAG6hY?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Sunday, 30 October 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

Mike, what’s Twitter’s Blind look like right now?

― Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, October 30, 2022 1:57 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

dunno right now. i got banned from blind this morning for calling musk a messy bitch.

but the last couple days have been intense. the 75% story was i think the first time a lot of people realized it was more likely than not they would lose their job. and then the story about the c-suite getting shitcanned without severance yesterday and the apparent rush to get stuff done before nov 1 finally made people realise not only are they losing their job: he's not going to honor any aspect of the unenforceable gentleman's agreement about comp/severance/benefits. the code review thing is the icing on the cake.

there was a great "i was excited about musk getting rid of the libs but now i'm shocked to see him firing the very people who can help him" post this morning. real never though leopards would eat my face stuff.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 30 October 2022 21:09 (one year ago) link

i got banned from blind this morning for calling musk a messy bitch.

damn no free speech on blind

lag∞n, Sunday, 30 October 2022 22:36 (one year ago) link

you saw how he eats spaghetti?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 October 2022 22:38 (one year ago) link

jfc

NEW: Twitter is planning to start charging $20 a month for verification. It’s Elon Musk’s first big project.

Oh, and the team building it was told they will all be fired if they don’t meet a launch deadline of November 7th. https://t.co/Kk8IVynhzw

— Alex Heath (@alexeheath) October 31, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 01:20 (one year ago) link

^ fodder for the work faster you fuckers thread

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 31 October 2022 01:22 (one year ago) link

i'm starting to think that the starting point for understanding elon's agenda is recognizing that he is really fucking stupid

— jason wilson (@jason_a_w) October 30, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 31 October 2022 01:36 (one year ago) link

Lol this defeats the purpose of the blue checkmark. Enough notable ppl will decline to pay that no one will look for it as a credential anymore.

treeship., Monday, 31 October 2022 01:37 (one year ago) link

There are apparently 300k verified users so this would bring in like 70m a year if they all cough up.

It’s going to be a badge that says “I pay for this treatment and I like Elon musk”. What is the market for that?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 31 October 2022 01:40 (one year ago) link

yeah thats such a fundamental misunderstanding of what the blue checkmark is for and also a perfect encapsulation of what Elon thinks Twitter actually is. can't wait for a ton of people who decline (or just let their accounts go inactive) to get impersonated by trolls which will no doubt fool some high profile political or media figures

frogbs, Monday, 31 October 2022 01:42 (one year ago) link

It's so dumb that it seems like the real point must be to basically eliminate them — most people won't pay, and you probably shouldn't trust the ones who do. I keep waiting for this to not seem like a giant trolling exercise, but at the moment that still feels like the main motivation.

he may think he can squeeze some money out of big orgs willing to pay, but even if it works its gonna be a drop in the bucket for a company that paying a billion dollars a year to service its debt

the checkmark is not important for most people and ill happily lose it, but if there's no exception for journalists, this amounts to asking the NYT, say, for hundreds of thousands of dollars so that trolls can't impersonate their people to cause trouble https://t.co/KfN8h5ayjf

— Christopher Hooks (@cd_hooks) October 31, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 01:47 (one year ago) link

whether or not it's a good idea i expect most bluechecks will pay the $20 to stay verified

flopson, Monday, 31 October 2022 01:49 (one year ago) link

Yeah it’s extortion sort of.

treeship., Monday, 31 October 2022 01:50 (one year ago) link

Remember: The reason Twitter has "Verified Accounts" in the first place is because baseball manager Tony La Russa sued Twitter over an impersonator account: https://t.co/dXLuQiCzNq

— David H. Montgomery (@dhmontgomery) October 31, 2022

It’s not very good extortion, historically.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 31 October 2022 01:51 (one year ago) link

suspect someone who worked at buzzfeed five years ago or whatever prob doesnt care enough to give twitter hundreds of dollars a year

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 01:51 (one year ago) link

I bet it doesn't actually end up being $20 a month. $20 a year I could believe.

Another site (platformer) is reporting $5/month fwiw

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 31 October 2022 01:55 (one year ago) link

so basically you pay for twitter blue and they give you a check mark as part of the package guess i could see that

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 01:56 (one year ago) link

The real money will be in every wannabe influencer/scammer/grifter paying for verification for a few years until it's completely devalued.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 31 October 2022 01:58 (one year ago) link

Another site (platformer) is reporting $5/month fwiw

I believe that was something they were thinking about pre-Musk, and now that he's there he's gonna try and squeeze as much money out of his expensive new toy as quickly as possible, because he's dumb as shit and has no idea what the actual value of his expensive new toy is. Twitter is going to death-spiral incredibly fast; I'll be surprised if it still exists a year from now.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 31 October 2022 01:58 (one year ago) link

yeah if its $5/month I guess a lot of people will just do it. if it's $20 I suspect the blue check mark is gonna be the next NFT profile picture, having one will get you mocked relentlessly

frogbs, Monday, 31 October 2022 01:58 (one year ago) link

the check mark would be nice for people doing literal fraud on there

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 01:59 (one year ago) link

ah now hes looking through internal coms and tweeting stuff out

Wachtell & Twitter board deliberately hid this evidence from the court. Stay tuned, more to come … pic.twitter.com/CifaNvtRtt

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 31, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 01:59 (one year ago) link

ahahaha of course the first thing he'd do is review all the internal docs for messy drama

frogbs, Monday, 31 October 2022 02:03 (one year ago) link

as business strategy it makes no sense to take a company private and immediately jack up prices, something you'd do to juice revenues to placate impatient shareholders. whole point of going private is to free you from those short-termist incentives and let you experiment with risky investments with potential long-run upside

flopson, Monday, 31 October 2022 02:04 (one year ago) link

same with all the firings

flopson, Monday, 31 October 2022 02:05 (one year ago) link

Fun fact: because Twitter is under an ftc consent decree its slack is set up such that you can’t delete or edit a comment after 5 minutes. The sheer amount of shit that was talked about him on there is staggering.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 31 October 2022 02:05 (one year ago) link

lol

flopson, Monday, 31 October 2022 02:08 (one year ago) link

And unlike the previous ceo, who I never once saw on slack, I hear he actually spent the entire weekend logged in. Apparently his username is ermt. Feel free to email him @twitter.com.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 31 October 2022 02:22 (one year ago) link

terminal posting disease, good god rich ppl used to have standards

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Monday, 31 October 2022 02:24 (one year ago) link

The idea of forcing people to pay for blue checks gets Twitter’s value proposition totally backward.

For Twitter to have value, it needs to provide valid information from legitimate sources. If anyone can pay for the appearance of validity, the site losses all value.

— Max Berger (@maxberger) October 31, 2022

mookieproof, Monday, 31 October 2022 02:39 (one year ago) link

I mean yeah that's kind of what the whole appeal of Twitter was, you could hear from celebrities, athletes, and journalists all at once. like 90% of their users joined because a specific person was on it. maybe that's not the case anymore but still this sounds like a remarkably idiotic idea

frogbs, Monday, 31 October 2022 02:49 (one year ago) link

I don't understand why somebody wants or needs a blue check unless they're actually famous enough for someone to want to impersonate them

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 31 October 2022 02:53 (one year ago) link

I mean it's a cool status symbol I guess. especially if you're a pretty niche writer/artist/musician or whatever

frogbs, Monday, 31 October 2022 03:01 (one year ago) link

But isn't having the followers the status symbol? Is it high status to have a blue check and, like, 1000 people following you?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 31 October 2022 03:11 (one year ago) link

seems easier to get followers if you have the check though

frogbs, Monday, 31 October 2022 03:13 (one year ago) link

wow lol

so my understanding is at twitter HQ, the folks running things in the “war room” are Musk, David Sacks, Jason Calacanis (VCs/Elon pals) Sriram Krishnan (exTwitter/current a16z), Elon’s legal and finance head guys (Spiro, Birchall) and a fleet of Tesla/BoringCo engineers

— rat king (@MikeIsaac) October 30, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 03:35 (one year ago) link

Jason c is a podcast content grifter with a get rich quick intro to angel investing book and literally zero management experience. Krishnan is ex Twitter for a reason.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 31 October 2022 03:38 (one year ago) link

everyone made fun of jason for pledging his sword to elon but whos in the war room now

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 03:44 (one year ago) link

First task: Get rid of all the spam!
Second task: Get companies to pay to spam your DMs!

Guys. pic.twitter.com/e3G9m4TSLb

— Mike Masnick (@mmasnick) October 31, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 03:45 (one year ago) link

twitter only needs one person to pay $20/month. that's enough to buy four tomato plants. after 6 months that's 100 tomatoes. plant them. 6 more months that's 2500 plants. plant them. 6 months it becomes 62,500 plants. 12 months later that's 39MM tomatoes. sell them for $1 each

— leon (@leyawn) October 31, 2022

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Monday, 31 October 2022 03:57 (one year ago) link

lmaooo that's a deep cut

frogbs, Monday, 31 October 2022 03:58 (one year ago) link

interesting

Clay, Monday, 31 October 2022 04:13 (one year ago) link

Welp, I just got fired from this bird app ya’ll. It’s been grand.

— ttl.eth (@taylorleese) October 31, 2022


The ongoing layoff process is a complete farce and an embarrassment. It’s a bunch of Tesla goons making decisions about people they know nothing about other that number of code commits. It’s complete absurdity.

— ttl.eth (@taylorleese) October 31, 2022

senior managers getting canned for not writing code on a sunday night

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 31 October 2022 04:49 (one year ago) link

I'm sure Elon's goons are goonier than usual, but that also sounds like any number of M&A bloodbaths.

Twitter crashing and burning is probably a good thing, depending on what comes next

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 31 October 2022 06:13 (one year ago) link

xp Firing middle managers for cost efficiencies is expected. Firing middle managers *because* they’ve being doing their job (management) rather than a different job (writing code) is bizarre.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 31 October 2022 06:40 (one year ago) link

In retrospect, there was no way a little blue checkmark was not going to evolve from a fraud prevention tool into the online equivalent of The Star-belly Sneetches in the minds of these cringe-y losers.

Chris L, Monday, 31 October 2022 09:00 (one year ago) link

anyone with .eth in their username probably deserves to be fired tbh

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 31 October 2022 09:04 (one year ago) link

Twitter crashing and burning is probably a good thing, depending on what comes next


I hope it crashes and burns. While I hope all it’s workers will be okay, it’s also simply been a net negative in the world under any objective measure. All social media has been, but Twitter among the worst.

poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Monday, 31 October 2022 10:56 (one year ago) link

That's just nonsense. So many marginalised voices have been amplified on the platform. I've learnt a lot from them.

People quitting bcz of Musk are silly. Did you not know the weird people who owned the platform before he came along? Not to defend the cunt but the previous ppl had a contempt for the product and hardly ever tweeted. At least he uses it.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 31 October 2022 11:26 (one year ago) link

That's just nonsense. So many marginalised voices have been amplified on the platform. I've learnt a lot from them.

This is exactly right. If you think the cumulative cultural impact of the right-wing knuckle-walkers outweighs the cumulative cultural impact of Black Twitter, to pick just one, well, that's on you. It's certainly not my experience.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 31 October 2022 12:03 (one year ago) link

ive got multiple paul pelosi conspiracies in my trends this morning

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 12:31 (one year ago) link

a multiplicity of paul pelosis

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 31 October 2022 12:41 (one year ago) link

it’s also simply been a net negative in the world under any objective measure

Would like you to print out the data on this and bring it by my office in 30 minutes.

It's OK to quit sonething because you hate the person in charge of it.

It's OK to hate them more than the previous person in charge of it (esp.given how they behave on it themselves).

I mean these whataboutery complaints about this are pretty weird to me.

nashwan, Monday, 31 October 2022 13:04 (one year ago) link

In any case I think the vast majority of ppl quitting now are doing so with Musk being the last straw rather than a single reason.

nashwan, Monday, 31 October 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link

I am querying this guy buying it as being the last straw. Really?

Big portions of the world are carved out for other people's profit (whether that's monetary or cultural). I don't think you escape that by deleting an app.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 31 October 2022 13:14 (one year ago) link

But you can certainly reduce their ability to rub it in your face.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 31 October 2022 13:17 (one year ago) link

I mean it does sound like Musk buying was the last straw. Lots of ppl talking about quitting and alternatives.

Funnily enough a couple of Black/Asian posters I saw were like 'it's always been hell it will always be hell', or 'at least I can swear at a dumb blue tick again without getting banned' lol xp = sure, if you think so.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 31 October 2022 13:21 (one year ago) link

Did you not know the weird people who owned the platform before he came along?

sure but Dorsey seems like your standard issue libertarian techbro while Elon is more of a Trumpy figure whose ultimate goal is to make every single thing on Twitter about him. the idea of him moderating a giant online forum gives me Lowtax vibes...hopefully it ends the same way

frogbs, Monday, 31 October 2022 13:22 (one year ago) link

ive got multiple paul pelosi conspiracies in my trends this morning

― lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 bookmarkflaglink

Musk himself is pushing some of them lol.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 31 October 2022 13:30 (one year ago) link

fwiw Dorsey didn't own Twitter the way Musk does now (public v. private)

for my part it was the combination of already waning enthusiasm/enjoyment/utility plus now having to hear about twitter+musk constantly everywhere else on the internet. Also quitting social media platforms feels really good, I recommend it

rob, Monday, 31 October 2022 13:35 (one year ago) link

ive never consciously quit a social media but twitter is the only one i still use

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 13:36 (one year ago) link

something that's occurred to me is that we're kind of past the era where people who were rich and/or had power had to be serious people; as in, they at least had decent instincts or knew how to listen to people who did. thanks to the way the media works, plus the general entropy of wealth, where random kids are inheriting vast sums of money, or investing in the right startup, or getting big into crypto at a lucky time, you now have a lot of unserious people with a lot of power. the whole appeal of Elon Musk is that he is that "if I had a billion dollars, I'd [something which sounds nice but is obviously stupid and impossible]" guy. very much an extension of the Trumpy "everything is actually easy" mentality. kinda scary but hey if a guy like that is gonna blow his fortune on something a dying social network is a pretty funny way to go

frogbs, Monday, 31 October 2022 13:48 (one year ago) link

fwiw Dorsey didn't own Twitter the way Musk does now (public v. private)

for my part it was the combination of already waning enthusiasm/enjoyment/utility plus now having to hear about twitter+musk constantly everywhere else on the internet. Also quitting social media platforms feels really good, I recommend it


You must love ilx where there are multiple threads talking about this guy atm

barry sito (gyac), Monday, 31 October 2022 13:49 (one year ago) link

oh yeah another reason to quit is how funny it would be if this fails quickly

lol gyac, I am of course part of my own problem there, so maybe it's like cutting out wine while continuing to drink beer & liquor

rob, Monday, 31 October 2022 13:52 (one year ago) link

I drink whiskey but not wine or beer, I see no problem with this.

barry sito (gyac), Monday, 31 October 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link

me neither! that analogy was inspired by true events

rob, Monday, 31 October 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link

oh yeah another reason to quit is how funny it would be if this fails quickly

― rob, Monday, October 31, 2022 9:52 AM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

quitting works but prob the best thing to contribute to musk twitter failing is for a lot of people to use any new freedom from moderation to to post wildly advertiser unfriendly things, also could be funny

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 14:03 (one year ago) link

chaotic evil is fun because lawful evil is so consistently against me.

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Monday, 31 October 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link

Years back a friend of mine verified me as a prank. You could disable the verification in the settings. Maybe it’s no longer possible (e.g., I lost my verified status, rightfully, when Twitter did an audit of verified users back in 2016). But, assuming that option still exists, it’s funny to me when verified users complain about being verified.

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 31 October 2022 14:25 (one year ago) link

I still think centralized verification is dumb and I think we’d be in a far better situation if, for individuals, publicly verifiable identity proofs were used. It’s embarrassing Reddit’s AMA subreddit does this better than Meta or Twitter! But I also understand this isn’t a mistake. Twitter doesn’t want to provide links to Meta services. Meta services don’t want to provide links to Twitter. Everyone knows but won’t admit that this shit is (or is potentially) valuable.

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 31 October 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

I apologize for the barrage of posts, but this story is enraging for so many reasons. Last point, Jack, whatever you think about him, is likely right about the need for decentralized authentication and authorization. Do I trust him or his proposed implementation? I haven’t looked at it closely but I’m obviously skeptical because of the source. Nevertheless, it’s an idea that I truly believe would make the web a little safer and nicer.

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 31 October 2022 14:34 (one year ago) link

tangential since this is more about the mechanism of sign-in authentication and not authentication of real life identity:

lol remember when oauth was going to be the end-all, where people could bring their own auth wherever they wanted, only to be followed by oauth2 being kind of a corporate-led mess, to the extent one of the oauth creators quit the project after its release and spent the next year doing talks at conferences explaining how bad oauth2 is?

I remember a handful of sites very briefly allowing either a handful of providers or, kind of insanely, allowing you to plug in your own provider
the only vestige that remains is "sign in with google/facebook/twitter" which basically get dumped as soon as a service gets large enough they realize they're missing out on some data by not making people use their own auth

mh, Monday, 31 October 2022 14:44 (one year ago) link

that isn't to say the two couldn't be linked, obviously. if you signed in with an identity provider explicitly linked to your organization (maybe something like the ACME mechanism LetsEncrypt uses to verify domain ownership) and that was flagged as legit by twitter, then verification of identity linked to that org could be streamlined

mh, Monday, 31 October 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link

quitting works but prob the best thing to contribute to musk twitter failing is for a lot of people to use any new freedom from moderation to to post wildly advertiser unfriendly things, also could be funny

I don’t he has this one covered tbh

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 31 October 2022 14:49 (one year ago) link

Jack, whatever you think about him, is likely right about the need for decentralized authentication and authorization. Do I trust him or his proposed implementation? I haven’t looked at it closely but I’m obviously skeptical because of the source. Nevertheless, it’s an idea that I truly believe would make the web a little safer and nicer.

― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, October 31, 2022 10:34 AM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i found the developer page

https://atproto.com/guides/overview

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link

I wonder how many fake accounts there are

Also its funny he wants to charge 20$ a month to be verified - so like if Beyonce doesn't pay she is going to lose her blue logo?

Why not make it more first of all or base the fee on how many followers you have

| (Latham Green), Monday, 31 October 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link

xp oh yeah I was looking at that last week but forgot it had anything to do with Dorsey

seems decent, probably won't get any traction

mh, Monday, 31 October 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link

yeah

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 14:56 (one year ago) link

https://jaygraber.medium.com/web3-is-self-certifying-9dad77fd8d81

Then there is this type of thinking

| (Latham Green), Monday, 31 October 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link

the blockchain will solve this

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link

lol blockchain

Seems like online identity verification is something the government could provide pretty easily. They verify people's identities all the time. (It would have the added advantage of right-wingers boycotting it becz govt). But like the digital equivalent of a passport, which could live in a secure place but you could link to from your social media bio or whatever.

phone number seems to be more important than physical address lately

| (Latham Green), Monday, 31 October 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link

Estonian solved this

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 31 October 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link

Estonia*

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 31 October 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link

estonianchain

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link

I hate reading articles about blockchain because I am worried I am not understanding it
but then I wonder if there is actually anything worth understanding

| (Latham Green), Monday, 31 October 2022 15:06 (one year ago) link

funny I remember reading a story about Tesla where Elon would fire anyone who was discovered to have a second job or side hustle because he wanted their attention focused solely on their job at Tesla. well now Elon is the CEO of 3 separate, very different companies, plus he apparently has the time to shitpost & play video games all day, not to mention impregnating one of his subordinates every few months. is his involvement with these companies just "do this dumb idea or you're fired"??

frogbs, Monday, 31 October 2022 15:07 (one year ago) link

I hate reading articles about blockchain because I am worried I am not understanding it
but then I wonder if there is actually anything worth understanding

― | (Latham Green), Monday, October 31, 2022 10:06 AM (forty-seven seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

I dont think blockchain is that complex, it's just a large linked list which everyone on the network needs to have a copy of to verify new entries. or something like that anyway. I think there is an actual plausible use case involving authentication tokens that could in theory be used across multiple networks but, as always with blockchain stuff, there's already a much quicker and easier way to do it out there

frogbs, Monday, 31 October 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link

heres a brief primer that pretty much covers it https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2022-the-crypto-story/

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 15:17 (one year ago) link

we're kind of past the era where people who were rich and/or had power had to be serious people;

I think you should probably look up the Habsburgs (or really any monarchy past a certain point)

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 31 October 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link

Yeah I feel like ruling/elite classes have always been rife with buffoons, dunces, crooks and dipshits.

Didn't know about the Estonian system, it does seem like a good solution.

https://e-estonia.com/solutions/e-identity/id-card/

social media has exposed the fact that rich people arent serious, did away with the pr and professional media intermediaries

the only problem is that many of them love it and are thriving eg elon trump

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link

I was reading something about using blockchain as "providence" (who owns or sold a work of art and who owned it before etc) but it seemed like it was full of pitfalls.

Seems like the whol blockchain idea is "we don't need governments anymore" like anarchy or something - like the programmers will solve everything but they dont know about how the world really works they just know how software works

| (Latham Green), Monday, 31 October 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

amazing to watch genius in real time

Fun watching these complete dumbasses reply to mostly bad ideas from random accounts for how Twitter should now change. It really does show they have no clue what they’re doing. pic.twitter.com/3UJ485rEam

— Paris Marx (@parismarx) October 31, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link

good lord

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 31 October 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link

Longtime Musk associates David Sacks and Jason Calacanis appeared in a company directory over the weekend, according to photos obtained by The Washington Post. Both had official company emails and their titles were “staff software engineer.”

hahaha

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 31 October 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link

love too c0de

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link

If there's a silver lining to this debacle it's that Musk will be allowed to fail and make a fool of himself again and again, in public, for everyone to see. Unlike most CEOs, who tend to do this stuff in private.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 31 October 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link

these people are freaks (the bad kind)

mh, Monday, 31 October 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link

Scary monsters (and super creeps).

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 31 October 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link

I read an overheated/overstuffed piece about Sacks the other day: https://newrepublic.com/article/168125/david-sacks-elon-musk-peter-thiel

not sure there's much of a thesis in there, but his politics are bad (as in Desantis donor bad) in case you were wondering

rob, Monday, 31 October 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-fired-twitter-execs-for-cause-avoid-severance-report-2022-10

this is deranged and will 100% lead to lawsuits

also, popcorn.gif at this coming up in november: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-26/musk-defends-50-billion-pay-deal-as-justified-by-tesla-s-surge i don't have a view on the outcome but hope it will lead to lols.

, Monday, 31 October 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

interesting considering theyve owned a piece since the startup days iirc

Today I am requesting the Committee on Foreign Investment — which reviews acquisitions of U.S. businesses by foreign buyers — to conduct an investigation into the national security implications of Saudi Arabia's purchase of Twitter.https://t.co/IDwnKGaxt7

— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) October 31, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link

articles a couple weeks old but first ive heard

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

do ya think that maybe he did this just to read Grimes' DMs?

frogbs, Monday, 31 October 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link

it's not so much that Alwaleed bin Talal owns a piece of Twitter, it's now that Elon Musk owns Twitter and not the public, ergo Alwaleed bin Talal has leverage over Elon, also elon is a right-wing conspiracist now so more likely to promote pro-SA stuff. iirc Alwaleed bin Talal increased his ownership % as part of the deal.

there was a popular theory going around a month or two ago that Elon was tweeting pro-putin and pro-xi propaganda to try and draw biden's attention to the deal so he could stop it. obviously that did not work and but chris murphy is still trying to score political points off it? the deal is done and it would be a huge clusterfuck for CFIUS to come in now and force the deal to be unwound.

, Monday, 31 October 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

that theory actually seemed kinda plausible except for the fact that Elon does not seem smart enough to pull something like that off. he's clearly very deep into far-right conspiracy bullshit, can't imagine it goes any deeper than that

frogbs, Monday, 31 October 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link

this is the guy i mentioned who left twitter for a reason, and is now part of the transition brains trust

https://www.garbageday.email/p/anti-crypto-media-personality

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 31 October 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

good luck elon

Scoop w/ @sarafischer: Twitter engineers have been instructed to look at the old Vine code, with hopes that Vine could be revived by year-end. https://t.co/XL6kdZFhEw

— Dan Primack (@danprimack) October 31, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

bit of history re vine

Man, if you want to know anything about the essential nature of social media platforms, just check out what happened to Vine when the people on the service suddenly saw themselves as workers instead of users.

From “Kids These Days”: pic.twitter.com/zfrTzjk0Kx

— Matt Pearce 🦅 (@mattdpearce) April 5, 2019

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link

Is convincing Musk into relaunching Vine going to be like meme people tricking Sony into re-releasing "Morbius"?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 31 October 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link

platforms are ephemeral like nightclubs but refusing to negotiate with labor is the bedrock of the capital/silicon valley marriage

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 31 October 2022 19:35 (one year ago) link

otm

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 19:43 (one year ago) link

tho it is interesting that give big(ish) accounts a cut of ad revenue has since become the model, at least on some sites, but not twitter lol

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

tbf it takes no effort to make a tweet

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

"relaunch vine" is a joke meme inside twitter, used to openly mock pre-musk leadership on slack.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 31 October 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link

has this account been posted yet?
https://twitter.com/ElonJet

mh, Monday, 31 October 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link

elon tried to pay the kid $50k to take it down and he said no lmao

, Monday, 31 October 2022 22:08 (one year ago) link

seems fun for him

Mark Finchem, AZ secretary of state candidate, is apparently locked out of his Twitter account and is accusing Elon Musk of banning him pic.twitter.com/dDQ6Eerak4

— Sam Brodey (@sambrodey) October 31, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 31 October 2022 22:27 (one year ago) link

everything that happens on twitter is just musk now

lag∞n, Monday, 31 October 2022 23:03 (one year ago) link

elon tried to pay the kid $50k to take it down and he said no lmao

― 龜, Monday, October 31, 2022 5:08 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol I was going to say how awesome that is but in this economy that kid’s going to do something terrible asap

mh, Monday, 31 October 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link

who will fill the soros role in american politics when soros himself dies?

kind of a dread globalist roberts situation

mookieproof, Monday, 31 October 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link

It's weird that Soros is a villain, he's extremely generous with his wealth unlike some bizillionaires who shall remain nameless

but hey, that's anti-semitism for you!

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 31 October 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link

you could legitimately criticize Soros for many of the same reasons you’d criticize the Koch family or other rich stock market investors but a lot of people who really hate him don’t mind those things

mh, Monday, 31 October 2022 23:52 (one year ago) link

im sorry its a lil too on the nose for him to bring the guys from the project that famously doesnt work

Elon Musk has pulled more than 50 Tesla employees into his Twitter takeover, most of them Autopilot engineers https://t.co/ogt21X90Dh <--- At Tesla, Python is a preferred scripting language, and at Twitter programmers use Scala extensively.<--culture clash, code review challenge

— Lora Kolodny (@lorakolodny) October 31, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 03:18 (one year ago) link

jfc *i* can code python pretty well, no wonder autopilot frickin sucks

Clay, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 03:30 (one year ago) link

was going to say, if they're coding a realtime safety-critical system in python that would explain some things.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 03:36 (one year ago) link

lol

Twitter's ongoing verification chaos is now a cybersecurity problem. It looks like some people (including in our newsroom) are getting crude phishing emails trying to trick people into turning over their Twitter credentials. pic.twitter.com/Nig4nhoXWF

— Zack Whittaker (@zackwhittaker) October 31, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 03:57 (one year ago) link

Lol indeed. Though I think getting blue ticks to pay isn't a bad idea. They are moaning about it but most will pay up.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 11:16 (one year ago) link

Musk now trying to negotiate with Stephen King to get him to pay for his blue tick.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 11:28 (one year ago) link

this is literally pathetic lol pic.twitter.com/jkMe7voVwx

— cait (@punished_cait) November 1, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 12:10 (one year ago) link

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/022/017/thumb.jpg

, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 12:39 (one year ago) link

https://www.dw.com/en/elon-musk-dissolves-twitter-board-becomes-new-ceo/a-63612360

"Grand Moff Tarkin : The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I've just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away."

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 12:42 (one year ago) link

ive noticed that these online right bitcoin etc weirdos are not only status obsessed often about the most inane things like a blue check or an ape drawing and they also assume everyone else must be too, but all of that is kind of whatever the odd thing is that they just talk about it openly like i saw a pic of some bitcoin millionaire eating the stupidly overpriced gold leaf covered steak at salt bae restaurant and when people made fun of him he defended himself like this is good i am demonstrating my status as a high net worth individual and then a bunch people jumped in to defend him like yes this is good this is how you do it lol, but thats not how you do it youre supposed be like i drive the s class because its the best vehicle on the market i couldnt care less what people think, even some conspicuous consumption like a rapper throwing money around or whatever has a sense of fun to it but these guys are just like *completely flat affect* must business the status and level up

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 12:55 (one year ago) link

Halloween with my Mom pic.twitter.com/xOAgNeeiNN

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 1, 2022

nashwan, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 13:21 (one year ago) link

lmao that he's getting negotiated from $20 to $8 (from a guy who is not gonna pay a cent) and then openly admits Twitter is losing money. shit's gonna crash and burn even harder than I thought

frogbs, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 13:26 (one year ago) link

he is just all about the self-own

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 13:26 (one year ago) link

xps to lagoon it’s just so joyless in a completely gamed way, none of these people are enjoying their money! What’s the point!

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 13:32 (one year ago) link

yeah its super lame but even lamer are the guys who aspire to be that and spend their time larping it online

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 13:37 (one year ago) link

it's a bunch of guys who have spent their entire lives heretofore min/maxing their video game characters and obsessing over rare loot drops generated by a random number generator applying that logic to real life now that they're paper millionaires via crypto. all you really need to know is that the inventor of ethereum invented it because he was made that blizzard nerfed his char in WoW.

, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 13:39 (one year ago) link

So far at least two of the very small handful of people I follow on twitter have either deactivated their accounts or announced a break.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 13:40 (one year ago) link

Elon's two moms are Moira Rose?

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 13:49 (one year ago) link

yea I remember this stuff during the online poker boom, a certain subset of young folks got really rich and all they could think to do was buy stupid cars and get mad online. I mean if you play poker for a living there's always something to be angry about. but it did occur to me that these people were just not enjoying their money at all. one of them even used it to make a fictional series about his life that he was gonna shop out to various networks. it was hilarious and not in an intentional way. if these folks just got offline and invested in original pressings of obscure German records they'd be a lot happier.

frogbs, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link

all you really need to know is that the inventor of ethereum invented it because he was made that blizzard nerfed his char in WoW.

― 龜, Tuesday, November 1, 2022 9:39 AM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol had not heard that, checks out

omfg… etherium was created as a cope for a world of warcraft nerf?? im losing my fucking mind. imagine being so mad you… what the fuck https://t.co/BX3rrWAtKk pic.twitter.com/4QXuWt6644

— 🌦 (@zemnmez) October 1, 2021

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link

I remember somewhere around peak Google when I read some profile of at least one of the Google dudes and he was driving one of those stupid looking high six figure sports car that looked like Sammy Hagar in vehicle form. I could be worth untold billions and I would literally never buy some yellow spandex jumpsuit with wheels. I can't tell if they're bored, have bad taste, get bad advice ... probably all three. Like, they probably watch "Entourage" for ideas.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link

yeah theyre just like i should consume the things for rich suckers now

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:01 (one year ago) link

you guys really hate lambos eh

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:04 (one year ago) link

I paid stet a few hundred bucks to get an emoji on my name and he never delivered

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:05 (one year ago) link

ilx rug pull

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:06 (one year ago) link

lol

(We're Not) The Experimental Jet Set (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:12 (one year ago) link

thinking about this pay-to-verify thing, the intent is to also open it up to normie, currently non-verified users too right? so elon thinks it's not just extorting current blue checks for money, it's a whole new revenue stream. but that obviously dilutes the value of a blue check if anybody can buy it for $8. altho it's already pretty diluted as-is, so many alt-right nutjobs have one via running conspiracy theorist fake news sites.

, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:12 (one year ago) link

a pic of some bitcoin millionaire eating the stupidly overpriced gold leaf covered steak at salt bae restaurant

imagine trying to parse this sentence in 2002

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:14 (one year ago) link

Oreos should buy Twitter

How about Blue Check for important people and orange check for nobodys that want to send Twiotter thier social security number

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link

you guys really hate lambos eh

― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, November 1, 2022 10:04 AM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lambos are sick dont get me wrong, they are 100% for rich suckers tho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:25 (one year ago) link

i guess if you want to split hairs theyre also for insane rich people, thats really more their image, but most of their sales you have to think come from the suckers

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:26 (one year ago) link

lol just recalled someone telling me about their bitcoin rich cousin who bought a lambo

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:27 (one year ago) link

xxp if it turns into that I can't imagine it'll go any better than the NFT profile picture thing, any rando with a blue check is just gonna get dunked on constantly. unless half the userbase leaves and it turns into 44000000000chan

even if every verified user ponies up the $20/month it's still only enough revenue to cover 10% of Elon's yearly interest cost. absolutely stunning that he's workshopping ideas on how to monetize Twitter AFTER vastly overpaying for it

frogbs, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

lambos are a perfect match for crpyto bros because anybody can buy one - perfect nouveaux riche status symbol. ferraris, on the other hand, you have to do insane shit like go to ferrari events, make under the table payments to your local ferrari dealer, get a 'starter' used ferrari to demonstrate you're a true tifosi, all so you can just buy the current model year - perfect old guard / landed gentry elite exclusivity bullshit

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/heres-why-ferrari-wont-sell-you-new-model/

, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:34 (one year ago) link

Theory - Musk is actually an idiot who got money out of sheer luck

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:36 (one year ago) link

i think musk is prob good at business, which doesnt mean hes not lucky and privileged, or that he cant make very big mistakes like buying twitter

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link

the farrari lambo dynamic is so funny farrari is in denial lambo openly admits what its all about

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link

xp - I knew the bit about getting them only serviced with Ferrari and the bit about trying to resell one, but had no idea about the rest of it. Def helps me understand why Lambos are the go-to car for the newly rich.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link

which dates all the way back to their founding when enzo ferrari snubbed the then tractor manufacturer ferruccio lamborghini inspiring him to build his own cars

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link

i mean if you want a ferrari you can always just buy a used one, tho ferrari does try to meddle with that too

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link

I'd already knew about the lamborghini origin story, had no idea this was still going on. Crazy, but I guess it works out pretty well for both Ferrari and Lamborghini?

silverfish, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link

lolz pic.twitter.com/qwffiIQHgJ

— Rachel Cohen (@rmc031) November 1, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link

Seriously, though, if status and celebrity is important to Musk, he *should* pay people like Stephen King!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link

the 'charge for verified' thing would probably work if you restricted it to just brands who are using Twitter to advertise

frogbs, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link

brands might just fuck off at some point, not because $20 is a lot to them, but because twitter is a bad place for them

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link

He has some idea that doing this will “solve bots and spam” so I think he doesn’t actually care about the price, and he thinks $20 is low.

But if he’s doing this for the revenue then there is no model of charging advertisers or celebrities for use that gets you to 1bn/year.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

My wife works in advertising and that is her take on this. It's also brought up in that Verge piece. Twitter's value as an advertising vector is entirely linked to its reputation as a site safe for advertisers.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:04 (one year ago) link

what does this have to do with bots and spam? I would guess those accounts are not verified, so, uh...I don't get it

the fact that he's trying to negotiate Stephen King down from $20 to $8 is pretty strong evidence that he's not really serious about this and that this is in fact one of those "new boss" moves like Trump's awful Foxconn deal which is intended to show investors and the public that you're willing to make big splashy decisions. I kinda suspect that it wont happen at all.

frogbs, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link

this guy clearly been reading my posts on the state of social media

Last week I had a lot of conversations about whether social media was dying or not. I don't think it is but it did make me think about shifts away from text and how Twitter is Geriatric Social Media https://t.co/UEvhKVGVJe pic.twitter.com/8jEAxbQx3P

— Charlie Warzel (@cwarzel) November 1, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link

what does this have to do with bots and spam? I would guess those accounts are not verified, so, uh...I don't get it

yeah this makes little to zero sense, since said botnet owners and spam accounts might be willing to pay $240 per year for the appearance of legitimacy

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link

🤷🏻‍♂️

I will explain the rationale in longer form before this is implemented. It is the only way to defeat the bots & trolls.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 1, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

this is already dumber than i anticipated

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link

yeah feel silly for thinking he might play it straight lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

The way to defeat bots & trolls obviously would be to offer free-but-rigorous verification for anyone who wants it. He's doing the opposite, so he's either dumb or disingenuous (or both obviously).

also lmao @ him seeing Stephen King telling him to fuck off and going "uh, would you pay $8?" such a beta move

frogbs, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link

I wonder if businesses can actually tie data that shows Twitter adverts actually caused sales

I see businesses to be more keen to advertise places like Paramount+ - as more studios rip their stuff out of netflix

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link

have they considered adding different pieces of flair for different types of accounts in addition to the verified badge?

for people with ".eth" in their username they could add a badge for that instead. those people would pay

maybe a badge to indicate interest groups, like verifying someone is a twitch streamer with a number of subscribers over a threshold

mh, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

a badge to indicate your account has been active over a decade without getting permabanned

mh, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

NFT owners could put an octagon border around their NFT profile pics. did you know? no? worked out well!

, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:41 (one year ago) link

make them pay

mh, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

I knew that, even if only because these people get ruthlessly mocked the instant they step outside their cryptobubbles

frogbs, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link

ten years later, haggling with Steven King about paying money to post on the bird sitehttps://t.co/7H37to05mc

— /📷 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐩𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐚𝐱 𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐰 📷/ (@HongPong) November 1, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

otoh he did put hairs on a man

rob, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:00 (one year ago) link

I wonder if businesses can actually tie data that shows Twitter adverts actually caused sales

given how much money gets spent on Twitter ads I'm sure they have this data but yeah I'd be curious how much that's changed over the last few years. and how much it's going to change now that a right-wing birdbrain has decided to make himself the very public face of the platform.

frogbs, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

Lol we're fucked https://t.co/obO3GvojLy pic.twitter.com/pvyYhutBiT

— Jason Schreier (@jasonschreier) November 1, 2022

starting to understand why ol' Musky was so desperate to get out of this deal

frogbs, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

The banks that lent Elon money to take over Twitter are admitting that they're in for a "huge" haircut https://t.co/CesZzGUGVF pic.twitter.com/c9aVxUOzLf

— Henry Farrell (@henryfarrell) November 1, 2022

Shit like this bolsters my belief that Elon will be fine, even as Twitter goes down in flames.

Chris L, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link

wonder how much he ends up selling twitter to some private equity fund for, $5b maybe, less or maybe much less, 0 + liabilities perhaps

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link

looking forward to hearing the news in a few years that twitter is now owned by macedonian online gambling company or w/e

rob, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

" I owe the bank $100,000, that's my problem. If I owe the bank $1,000,000,000, that's their problem."

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

eventual musk take: inadvertently destroying the rats nest that is twitter to clear the way for whatever comes next was my greatest accomplishment

i guess if you want to split hairs theyre also for insane rich people, thats really more their image, but most of their sales you have to think come from the suckers

I like thinking about this stuff because I know some car guys but I only know one with a lambo. he has bonkers amounts of money and never feels validated by the world and the car is so clearly "well, fuck you, I get THIS," but at the same time, fuck those are sick ass cars

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

I mean, he's making X the Everything App, think about how much everything generates in sales per year

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

i rode in a lambo once it was nuts barely a car more like a jet

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link

automakers that cater to the "carriage trade"

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link

btw from a business standpoint and I would guess this is something that will very shortly annoy the shit out of musk, Twitter's reach & effectiveness is not jack shit compared to FB or IG. or probably TikTok, I don't keep up on that front. FB has twice the users to begin with, a suite of really useful stats & business tools, and is very responsive to business clients. twitter has "well...we'll verify you and you can promote your tweet if you want idk???" its function for business is brand-building mainly

xp I have not ridden in a lambo and am jealous

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

Twitter will become like Yahoo, being bounced around between unenthusiastic telecom conglomerates for years to come, a shadow of its former glory

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

I have not ridden in a lambo and am jealous

― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, November 1, 2022 1:42 PM (thirty-four seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

it was cool but what i really wanted to do was drive it, i did ask lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

some of the 70s Lamborghinis are really elegant cars, nothing like the Transformers they are today

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

looooooool

You will also get:
- Priority in replies, mentions & search, which is essential to defeat spam/scam
- Ability to post long video & audio
- Half as many ads

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 1, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link

lmao half as many ads how generous

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

some of the 70s Lamborghinis are really elegant cars, nothing like the Transformers they are today

― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, November 1, 2022 1:45 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

it is true they are beautiful but lambo is kinda all about being a ludicrous transformer

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

Also you will get a free iron-on transfer and a tote bag - while supplies last

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

this is a pretty reasonable conclusion tbh, still dont know if anyone will want it, also actually verifying people is a big job, if the check becomes unreliable and scammers get them its counterproductive

Twitter’s current lords & peasants system for who has or doesn’t have a blue checkmark is bullshit.

Power to the people! Blue for $8/month.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 1, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link

he's just making this shit up as he goes along

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

happy to remain a peasant

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

And that's all you'll ever be to him

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link

"What do you mean essential oils won't cure my cancer? I got this information from a blue check doctor on Twitter?"

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

This seems like a stupid plan.

- pay to prevent your replies being hidden
- but you still get ads
- this will prevent spam and scammers
- wait can’t they pay that every month as well
???
- profit

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

this thread reminded me of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-T1MYyt-Dw

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

sure man ok

Price adjusted by country proportionate to purchasing power parity

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 1, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

using a VPN to connect to india to pay for twitter blue and nba league pass for cheap

, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link

scammers get them

What if - and hear me out - the scammer *runs the company*?

I asked my wife, and she said that Twitter ads have a high conversion level, which means people do click, buy, sign up, etc. She said that in this regard Twitter is much better than FB, but right now TikTok is way better than everyone.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link

i guess twitter underperforms as an ad platform not because it doesnt work but because companies just dont want to be associated with the kind of shit thats on there

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

Price adjusted by country proportionate to purchasing power parity. But how many pickles did Peter Piper pick if Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

using a VPN to connect to india to pay for twitter blue and nba league pass for cheap

― 龜, Tuesday, November 1, 2022 2:03 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

becoming an indian influencer, moving to india, living a nice life

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

Apparently "the click through rate on Twitter is much better than FB or IG." So, at least right now:

ads on TikTok>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Twitter>>>>FB/IG.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

I quit ages ago but if they make it a paid service I might have to join just to do the bit where someone posts something bad and I qt “this website isn’t free”

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

wonder if that tiktok conversion rate has to do with that tiktok is already really good at serving people stuff they want to see

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

Or maybe, since we're talking advertising, TikTok is even better at serving stuff people don't want to see but that they stick around for and watch anyway.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:13 (one year ago) link

having a more passive tv like experience might make people more willing to sit through them, how does youtube compare

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

I'm surprised that he accepted scaling Twitter Blue as the solution to what he originally proposed. TBH it is not a terrible idea from a business perspective. He is correct that Twitter should really think how it is going to keep revenue flowing; online ad spend is getting clobbered due to new privacy restrictions on mobile devices anyway.

akm, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

pay me to post bitch

This will also give Twitter a revenue stream to reward content creators

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 1, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

having a more passive tv like experience might make people more willing to sit through them, how does youtube compare

Supposedly, youtube is "more like highly targeted TV, so more for branding, less for asking people to take an action."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link

twitter ads are like tv ads in that their goal is usually to elevate the brand rather than say "hey you, specific person, check out this specific service we think you specifically would like". this is true of lots of social media but it's especially true of twitter because they have relatively little information because most people users don't post much and follow accounts that don't have obvious implications for their interests. this means there's only so much "getting better at AI" (or whatever musk things he's going to do) can help, but ironically this has protected them a little from the problems the ad tracking changes introduced in iOS 14.5 (cf facebook, which is fucked, even though they are very good at ad targeting).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link

charging power (and eventually real) users was a good idea 5 years ago. it's a bad idea when the number of power users and the amount they post peaked 2 years ago and is declining.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link

wait, why should money for content creators come out of the twitter blue pot rather than the ad dollars pot?

they could just pay content creators out of the ad dollars pot like youtube does

, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link

its just you know some shit or whatever

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

Looking forward to the future on Thursday. Resigned on Friday. pic.twitter.com/eDsf8WtzoF

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) November 1, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

This will also give Twitter a revenue stream to reward content creators

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 1, 2022

fuck OFF pic.twitter.com/10jsHS8Eha

— Dan Douglas (@dandouglas) October 12, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

That "lords & peasants" framing is such an Extremely Online Bro take. I think even most Twitter users don't give much of a shit about blue checks.

many people on twitter really get worked up about it which always seemed weird to me, ive seen people with like 800 followers who have a blue check cause they worked at a website when twitter was giving them out like candy who cares

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

however if more people want to get verified thats whatever, they would be wise to keep giving them for free to big accounts/those who have a good reason to need verification eg gov brands etc

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

Yeah that would be a smarter play — free blue checks to anyone with 50k followers or more (or whatever), peons can pay for them. Tho also that would be another "lords and peasants" system. Which I have a feeling he does not actually care about.

heh

SCOOP: IPG is recommending client "temporary pause" all current media on Twitter, according to multiple sources.

— Ryan Barwick☕️ (@Ryanbarwick) November 1, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

this asshole could be working on a fucking zero gravity machine right now, instead he's pleading like a sad sack used car salesman

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link

rich ppl needing to buy the things theyre into is so funny and self defeating, you bought the local football team congratulations millions of people who had no idea you existed now hate you

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

advertisers who are smart know that twitter has to make $1.2 billion a year in interest payments, it's a prime time to renegotiate their deals with twitter (and if they're smart they probably had change of control provisions in their contracts that let them do exactly that). i'm not a commercial contracts lawyer but i'd be willing to bet advertisers have twitter over a barrel and not the other way around.

, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

xp It's really adolescent wish fulfillment.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

just get a yacht like a normal bozo, at least you can ride around on it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link

just because you CAN fire off stream-of-conciousness random missives all day doesn't mean you should

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link

would say theres no way theyre going to do it but after the microchip sanctions who knows

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link

IPG’s recommendation on pausing spending on Twitter follows an announcement from General Motors, which last week said it was temporarily suspending its advertising on Twitter. G.M. is a competitor of Mr. Musk’s electric vehicle company, Tesla.

twitter now has the same problem as AWS, i.e. competitors of the parent entity are going to refuse to do business with it.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

In the long run I feel like a raging coke habit would have been a better, less expensive investment for Musk than Twitter. (Not saying he might not have one of those too.)

its so funny that he doesn't seem to realize that bots/spam are very specifically an Elon Musk problem because his followers are the dumbest rubes on the planet. most famous people aren't constantly hounded by them but as soon as you start pushing crypto shit and dumb conspiracy theories you start attracting them like flies.

frogbs, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link

yup lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link

imo hes prob mostly on adderall maybe some other pharmaceutical in the mix too xp

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link

Azealia Banks claimed meth didn't she

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 19:31 (one year ago) link

many people on twitter really get worked up about it which always seemed weird to me, ive seen people with like 800 followers who have a blue check cause they worked at a website when twitter was giving them out like candy who cares

― lag∞n, Tuesday, November 1, 2022 1:34 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I was verified with like 350 followers early on for that reason, there was actually a contact at Twitter you went to to get people verified, one person I worked with got the whole mag/website stadf verified at once

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 19:38 (one year ago) link

we should verify posters on ilxor

stank viola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

i'm me, i promise

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 20:09 (one year ago) link

I forget who I am

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link

I’m the problem, it’s me

Twitter engenders a certain kind of psychosis that other platforms don’t, tho all platforms have a probably deleterious effect on their users

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link

Social media being an institution-revealing thing at the same time that a great many institutions are crumbling in real-time is some real serendipitous if cursed timing.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link

"PROMOTED" pic.twitter.com/QO06EMRMrx

— Majority Report (@majorityfm) November 1, 2022

ten year anniversary pic.twitter.com/Kk4i0Fv65D

— gryphoneer (@OneRadChee) November 1, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 13:47 (one year ago) link

a year on Mars takes twice as long. so he's still got time

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link

spent 44 billion to be lectured to by catturd2 https://t.co/OUNAfZ6s9N

— raandy (@randygdub) November 2, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link

its too good

Censorship-obsessed conservatives hard pivot to anti-Elon zealotry despite Chief Twit’s obsessive right-wing pandering pic.twitter.com/GA92kpVh4A

— Nathan Bernard (@nathanTbernard) November 2, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

One of the big takeaways from time on twitter is seeing scores of millionaires, academics and people you would think are smart generally make fools of themselves.

This might be twitter's finest hour.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/XDP8PzgzBr

— naomi (@badnaomibad) November 2, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

Being attacked by both right & left simultaneously is a good sign

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 2, 2022

my man's really chugging the victory wine right now

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

Made from his own tears

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

Elon’s on board with my gamer tags

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1587866548655505417

mh, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link

If a new thread is warranted I suggest the name
Elon Musk : god-Emperor of Twitter

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 19:38 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/kGncG7Hs3M

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 2, 2022

as a guy who cut his teeth on the SA forums back in the day I very much recognize this strain of posting disease

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 20:07 (one year ago) link

always a great sign when your new CEO can't explain why anyone should pay for his company's service and instead resorts to antagonizing his own customer base after just 4 days on the job

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 20:08 (one year ago) link

This piece is a pretty good variation on the "wow, has this supposedly smart guy fucked himself" pieces going around.

Now that we’re several days into the Elon Musk era of Twitter, some additional musings on how we got here and where we’re going. In no particular order:

1. Elon Musk did this to himself. There’s an old quip about how to make a small fortune in publishing: Start with a large fortune. Well, certainly Musk has a large fortune — the largest in the world, if we’re talking valuation rather than actual liquidity — and he’s about to make it smaller, because Twitter is worth nowhere near the $44 billion or so that he paid for it. Certainly Musk realized that almost immediately, which is why he tried to back out of the deal as soon as he made it.

The (former) board and shareholders realized it, too, which is why they absolutely, positively would not let him back out. From their point of view, Musk was their patsy, their stooge, their pigeon in a confidence game that let them cash out while Musk was left holding the bag. Twitter hardly ever made money as it was; now with the debt Musk has to service on an annual basis, it’ll probably be underwater for a long, long time.

But, look, no one made Musk do this. No one made him decide to become Twitter’s largest stockholder, no one made him make a ridiculous offer for the service, no one made him make that offer at what was basically a locked-in high price with little to no way of backing out gracefully if the financials did not add up. Musk, high on his own presumed genius and fashy-flirting worldview (and possibly also just high, period), was playing to his right-wing cheering squad of simpering fanboys when he decided to buy the place, and didn’t think through the consequences. So now he’s got himself a social media service and no clue what to do with it. Which is actually a thing we should underscore:

2. Elon Musk has no idea what he’s doing with Twitter. Both Musk’s frothy bootlickers and ardent haters think the dude has some sort of master plan for the service and that he’s bought the place to turn it into a fascist-friendly sinkhole that he can push democracy into (this being a bug or feature, depending on one’s own tendencies). And maybe, left to his own rich-white-dude-libertarian tendencies, he would have done. But the thing is, there’s no money in social media that way. Elon Musk may be an authoritarian-frotteuring bore, but the majority of the heavy users of Twitter (i.e., the ones generating content) are vaguely-to-solidly lefty, and the companies who advertise on the service don’t want to have their ads served next to an orgy of bigoted utterances by shitty people. Musk’s deal for the service has left him with something like a billion dollars in debt to service on an annual basis. He’s not going to do that with an exodus of high-profile users and no ads.

And this is before the various governments all over the world weigh in on what’s acceptable content on social media platforms. The EU has already made it clear to Musk they will take a dim view of him turning the service into a Nazi clubhouse, US politicians are looking to revisit Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act (which largely immunizes platforms from the legal repercussions of the speech of their users), and other countries will have their own bones to pick on this score. Thanks to Musk owning other companies that are vulnerable to government pressure and punishment (Tesla, SpaceX and Starlink among them), anything he does with Twitter that displeases governments can also have an effect on his other businesses.

Remember what I said earlier about Musk being left holding the bag? This is the bag! He’s got to find a way to make incredibly disparate constituencies — users, advertisers, governments — happy, and still make enough annually to service his debt. Doing all this was hard enough for the previous Twitter regime, and they didn’t have either the amount of debt servicing Musk has, or the additional business vulnerabilities he does.

How will Musk do this all? He doesn’t know! Neither does anyone else! But of course it’s no one else’s problem, now; he’s the sole director of the place. At the moment, he’s trying to suggest that raising the price of the Twitter Blue subscription scheme and tying verification to that is going to do something useful for him, which it probably won’t, since tying verification to payment is not a great idea, and Twitter Blue is — and I can say this as a subscriber — a benefit for a niche audience at best. He’s also going to lay off staff, which will save some money but is likely to make the service worse. Which brings us to the next point:

3. No matter what Musk does, he’ll probably make the service worse in the short run. Minimizing moderation on the site, allowing creeps and trolls more latitude, will make the service worse. Fiddling with how verification works and opening it up without an actual plan other than to have it as a bonus for subscribing to Twitter Blue, will make the service worse. Cutting staff hastily on sketchy criteria, will make the service worse. And making the service worse is bad for Musk, because everyone is watching him, and these first few days and weeks are very likely to seal the service’s overall fate.

Celebrities and other heavy users are already leaving or making plans to leave or curtail their use of the service. Advertisers can go elsewhere. What and who is left will not necessarily be inclined to participate in a subscription scheme. The snowball of collapse is likely to start rolling downhill, picking up momentum as it goes, hurtling toward the cliff.

Mind you, it doesn’t have to go this way — Musk could just say, hey, in the short term, I’m going to keep things as they are while I and my crew figure this thing out. But he won’t, because that’s not who he is. He’s the sort of guy who decides to buy a social media service in a fit of pique, and then panic when he realize he’s overpaid and is now in charge of a money pit. So he’s going to do things, and just doing things quickly isn’t going to be great. Beyond this:

4. Musk picked a really bad time to jump into social media. Aside from Twitter’s already-existing money and user woes — it is the smallest of the major social media outlets, by a considerable margin — all the social media giants seem to be doing a faceplant these days. Meta/Facebook is has seen its value slash by hundreds of billions of dollars as Zuckerberg frantically tries to make VR happen; the formerly trillion-dollar company was famously recently valuated less than Home Depot. TikTok really does seem to be Chinese government spyware, and an FCC commissioner thinks it should be banned. More widely, Google is thinking about layoffs, and even Amazon’s valuation dropped below a trillion for the first time in a couple of years. Just about the only major social media that doesn’t seem to be about to implode is LinkedIn, i.e., PleaseHireMeIJustGotLaidOffFromTwitter.com.

The best time for Musk to have bought Twitter was never, but last Friday was definitely not the second-best time. The whole concept of what social media is seems to be undergoing scrutiny, and not just on an existential basis. It would not entirely surprise me to see the social media giants of today sold at fire sale prices tomorrow. It’s happened before! Which, hey, dovetails right into this:

5. I don’t expect Musk to keep Twitter for long. Or at the very least I don’t expect him to have it be his focus for very long. Right now Musk is in the “oh, shit, how do I make money from this” phase of things, and once he figures out he can’t (or alternately, realizes what he’s doing will just make things worse), I think his attention will drift to the other companies of his that actually do make money and will need his attention. At which point he’ll either foist the service off to someone at a substantially reduced price (Google could take it on and happily mine it for all the ad data it’s worth), or hire a caretaker CEO, whose job is to keep the bleeding to a minimum as the service deflates like a sad balloon, and then go back to his previous role on Twitter, which is stoned billionaire iconoclast occasionally posting an outrageous opinion for lulz.

Which is to say: Musk is gonna lose money on this! Like, a lot! But it’s his money to lose, and also, he has the money to lose. If the other parts of his empire do well (and they might!), he might not even miss that money as his overall net worth continues to expand.

Of course, I could be wrong about all of this. It’s possible that Musk will unlock heretofore-unrealized value from the service, shepherd it to wild profitability, and make all the services’ constituencies happy. In which case: Swell. I’ve liked Twitter, a lot, and would be happy for it to survive and thrive. Prove me wrong, Elon Musk! I will be happy to be wrong!

I don’t suspect I will be wrong, however. Musk overpaid, there’s not that much value to unlock, and he’s gonna take a bath on this purchase before he gives up the ghost and cuts his losses. Musk will survive his Twitter foolishness. We’ll see if Twitter survives it as well.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 20:08 (one year ago) link

Musk is like a guy taking over Spotify and saying, "You now have to pay $15.99 to stream an album. You're welcome."

M.U.S.K Man (with torture intro)

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

lmao it owns that he's having a public meltdown at the same time advertisers are trying to figure out whether to continue running ads on his platform

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

I think one of the biggest mistakes this dummy made is confusing Twitter for something significantly more than a source of entertainment, which I think is largely the role it plays for a lot of people, its various sub utilities aside. If Twitter stopped today the world would not fundamentally change the way the end of Google or Amazon would change things. Imo, the end of Twitter would be more like the end of a modestly successful sitcom. No one would pay a penny, let alone a monthly fee, for the return of Two and a Half Men.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

Hey not so fast..

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link

would be hilarious if Elon musk personally relaunched Two and a half Men.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link

well, the way he's currently windmill jousting, that could happen

Publicly allege (on twitter) he doesn't have the cojones to bring back 2 1/2 Men and I bet he'd take the bait

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 21:07 (one year ago) link

"Go to Mars? What about Everybody Loves Raymond, man!"

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 21:08 (one year ago) link

All these kids with Friends t-shirts show there is a market for 90s sitcoms, he should relaunch them all. A lot cheaper than buying Twitter.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 21:12 (one year ago) link

the thing that would really pique interest in twitter is if he created accounts for the characters from two and a half men!

lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 21:16 (one year ago) link

#winning

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 21:20 (one year ago) link

The Elon thing is like watching someone who wished to become a genie (because nobody is more powerful than a genie) realize what being a genie entails. pic.twitter.com/2uSqW1gQXZ

— Robinson Meyer (@robinsonmeyer) November 2, 2022

borrowed Ostalgia for the unremembered 80s (MoominTrollin), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 22:40 (one year ago) link

something something genitals

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 22:41 (one year ago) link

so it's like watching the end of the famous movie Aladin?

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link

Genie entrails

realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 23:27 (one year ago) link

firing half a company in one day, there must be some reason why no one ever does that

Here it is: Elon Musk is planning to absolutely gut Twitter.

~3,700 people will lose their jobs on Friday, which is about half the company. Musk also plans to end Twitter’s remote work policy, forcing employees back to the office. https://t.co/tMcilbzUQg

— Paris Marx (@parismarx) November 3, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 November 2022 00:36 (one year ago) link

Screenshots from a Slack channel since made private put the number at 3,738 — we assume full-time Twitter employees.

A ‘RIF review’ meeting with Musk and his team is scheduled to be taking place right now. https://t.co/KokN5sul3A

— Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton) November 3, 2022

This roughly covers the interest payment

Apparently they accidentally posted the list in a public slack channel then made the channel private. None of the people managing this have ever had a real job.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 3 November 2022 00:37 (one year ago) link

jfc

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 November 2022 00:38 (one year ago) link

prob fire the people actually keeping the site up cause he had tesla guys out there counting commits

“Layoff lists were drawn up and ranked based on individuals’ contributions to Twitter’s code during their time at the company … The assessment was made by both Tesla personnel and Twitter managers.” https://t.co/tMcilbzUQg

— Paris Marx (@parismarx) November 3, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 November 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link

How confident is everyone in Tesla personnel and Twitter managers and their ability to identify who is keeping the website running?

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 3 November 2022 01:03 (one year ago) link

You have to imagine that many capable people are running for the Apple, Microsoft, and Google lifeboats is they haven’t left already. Meta on-boarded a handful of E6s this week. All from Twitter and during a “hiring freeze.”

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 3 November 2022 01:05 (one year ago) link

Everyone also needs to be quiet about the interest. It’s a non-issue. Even the most chaste of the lenders have said as much in the past two days. It’s not a pressing issue. Musk doesn’t care about it and he shouldn’t. He’s just this dumb.

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 3 November 2022 01:08 (one year ago) link

Apparently remote people (which is most people) are going to get fired for cause to avoid severance.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 3 November 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link

Everyone also needs to be quiet about the interest.

My point was order of magnitude this saves real money (in the short term), while charging a small number of people $8 does not.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 3 November 2022 01:12 (one year ago) link

Shitcanning trust and safety before pivoting to paywalled videos also seems like it might be a bad idea.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 3 November 2022 01:14 (one year ago) link

Everyone also needs to be quiet about the interest. It’s a non-issue. Even the most chaste of the lenders have said as much in the past two days. It’s not a pressing issue. Musk doesn’t care about it and he shouldn’t. He’s just this dumb.


issue isn’t the lenders, it’s about not throwing good money after bad!

and clearly he does care about it, given the layoffs!

, Thursday, 3 November 2022 01:15 (one year ago) link

My point was order of magnitude this saves real money (in the short term), while charging a small number of people $8 does not.

My bad! That comment wasn’t directed at you! It was more of a comment about everyone on Twitter or Hacker News talking about this as being an important issue rather than the obvious important issue: Musk is a moron.

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 3 November 2022 01:17 (one year ago) link

issue isn’t the lenders, it’s about not throwing good money after bad!

and clearly he does care about it, given the layoffs!

Welcome to Silicon Valley. You over-hire but reminiscence about the “startup days” and will always, without fail, throw good money after bad.

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 3 November 2022 01:18 (one year ago) link

Xp got you.

Do you know if the Facebook joiners on ml infra or modelling? Or are they regular swes?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 3 November 2022 01:23 (one year ago) link

no, you throw fidelity money after a16z money in silicon valley.

if twitter can’t pay its interest with the cash generated from its operations, sooner or later elon will have to contribute even more of his own money to avoid defaulting on the debt. elon is not very liquid - all his wealth is in tesla stock. he’d rather not have to sell even more tesla stock while the price is at a recent low. that’s what i mean about throwing good money after bad!

xp

, Thursday, 3 November 2022 01:24 (one year ago) link

I feel like Elon is giving us a good real world sense of what Galt's Gulch would be like. Nobody would actually know how to do a single useful thing.

Do you know if the Facebook joiners on ml infra or modelling? Or are they regular swes?

hey appeared to be infrastructure people. Because I’m a creep I looked at one’s Twitter profile and his posts read like he hasn’t quit Twitter! I hope this is a “quiet quitting” situation. If so, I applaud him.

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 3 November 2022 01:27 (one year ago) link

Hero.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 3 November 2022 01:30 (one year ago) link

Reply to your dms btw

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 3 November 2022 01:30 (one year ago) link

Advertisers should support:

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 2, 2022

normal

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 November 2022 02:08 (one year ago) link

SCOOP: L’Oréal has become the latest big company to suspend advertising spending on Twitter, as major brands grow nervous of Musk's chaotic rein

Others are quietly reviewing their exposure. “There’s some quiet quitting going on,” said one ad executivehttps://t.co/o8hD5uAcnw

— Hannah Murphy (@MsHannahMurphy) November 2, 2022

they're gonna hemorrhage advertisers, meanwhile the CEO is trying to feud with AOC on his own platform

frogbs, Thursday, 3 November 2022 02:30 (one year ago) link

let's say you could...how much would you pay?

— Danny Singh (@Mr_DannySingh) November 2, 2022

fucking yikes (assuming this dude actually does work there)

frogbs, Thursday, 3 November 2022 02:36 (one year ago) link

he does

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 3 November 2022 02:47 (one year ago) link

twitter but make it reverse cameo + onlyfans

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 November 2022 02:53 (one year ago) link

pay 2 harass

what about the reverse, John? have you ever had a time you wanted to chat with another twitter customer but they never responded?

— Danny Singh (@Mr_DannySingh) November 2, 2022

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Thursday, 3 November 2022 03:23 (one year ago) link

This is hilarious and embarrassing. They really don't understand what people use Twitter for or how.

“no wrong answers: what if you could buy a stake in a twitter account & effectively own them? any experiences with owning folx? painpoints?”

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 November 2022 03:31 (one year ago) link

I feel a dril/Elon Musk showdown coming

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 November 2022 03:35 (one year ago) link

this is so wild. I honestly thought given the money he paid and his eagerness to get out of the deal that he'd keep things mostly as-is but the dude is firing half his staff and crowdsourcing terrible ideas in order to generate revenue (which he won't have anyone to work on!) while simultaneously having an online meltdown which has led to him straight up antagonizing his entire userbase, all the while advertisers are jumping ship in anticipation of him turning it into a right-wing hate speech cesspool. and it hasn't even been a full week!!!

frogbs, Thursday, 3 November 2022 03:37 (one year ago) link

The Liz Truss of the social media world

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 3 November 2022 03:39 (one year ago) link

I feel like our current reality is just hastening a real life Coupon: The Movie

stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 03:41 (one year ago) link

you know how it's generally accepted that Kanye's mother dying is what turned him from an eccentric but successful weirdo into a full-on psychotic fascist? I think Elon's moment may have been everyone dunking on him for that stupid cave submarine

frogbs, Thursday, 3 November 2022 03:58 (one year ago) link

we should have let him take it in there and sealed it shut

stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 04:15 (one year ago) link

wait he was going to drive the submarine?

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 3 November 2022 04:37 (one year ago) link

The Liz Truss of the social media world

― Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 3 November 2022 bookmarkflaglink

A least it's only social media.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 November 2022 09:48 (one year ago) link

It's just logic.

"Changpeng Zhao, the chief executive and founder of Binance, said “a slimmer workforce would make more sense” at the social media platform. The cryptocurrency exchange has invested $500m (£441m) in Twitter as part of Musk’s $44bn takeover, which completed last week and has been followed by a stream of changes and mooted overhauls of the company ever since."

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/03/twitter-may-axe-half-its-workforce-as-key-investor-backs-job-cuts-elon-musk

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 November 2022 11:04 (one year ago) link

“I trust him by reputation “ lmfao

poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Thursday, 3 November 2022 11:09 (one year ago) link

When your team is pushing round the clock to make deadlines sometimes you #SleepWhereYouWork https://t.co/UBGKYPilbD

— Esther Crawford ✨ (@esthercrawford) November 2, 2022

, Thursday, 3 November 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link

!remind one week

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 3 November 2022 13:14 (one year ago) link

hah

https://i.imgur.com/rQyJQyg.jpg

frogbs, Thursday, 3 November 2022 13:31 (one year ago) link

Reply to your dms btw

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 3 November 2022 01:30 (twelve hours ago) link

I only get DMs from Twitter Blue members.

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:08 (one year ago) link

reddit brain

Elon Musk Told Twitter Advertisers He Plans to Offer Tiers of Content Moderation Similar to Movie Age Ratings https://t.co/gPp0fhuygT

— Matt Navarra (@MattNavarra) November 3, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

Hey, white supremacists! Have we got a deal for you! Hang out with all your friends in a warm, welcoming space tailor made for you. All for a low, low introductory price.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

G = Fascist-free
PG = Mild Fascism
R = Full Mussolini

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:45 (one year ago) link

It'll be like the MPAA - the hard r pushes you to the top tier, but they'll let a little softcore racism slip through for the kids, as a treat.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link

Just waiting for Muskcoin and the "buy an NFT to keep yoru blue check" nightmare

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:18 (one year ago) link

I would like to catfish Elon

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

Just stunning how this is playing out in full public view: 'We don't know what the fuck we're doing, what would you do smart ass??'

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

Meaning I'd like to fry him and have five to ten people eat him

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

My meemaw has a great recipe hold on a sec

poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

When it's going great

Since taking over a week ago, Musk has not even officially told his new staff that he is in charge. Or that he fired their CEO and other top leaders. Staff have to follow his tweets to learn about major changes in company direction. "We're all working for the Trump White House." pic.twitter.com/Mmq3dASoXF

— Will Oremus (@WillOremus) November 3, 2022

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

it makes sense tho because the company is twitter

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

At Twitter, Twitter is Microsoft Teams.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link

I think it would be a great idea to have a Twitter tier just for militias and domestic terrorists and folks like that. Elon, hit me up at @Christopher Wray

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link

"Why is this not done? I tweeted about it three days ago."

"Oh, I didn't know boss. I've got you blocked."

Yeah, funny enough I was trying to figure out why my modest feed was not stuffed with Musk shit, and then I remembered that I blocked or muted him long ago.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link

How long until he removes the block or mute features

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

he just fired the guy that knows how to do that

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

Twitter's new staff being shown around the place:

https://www.siasat.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/robort-scaled.jpg

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link

"Elon Musk: Business Pioneer or Huckleberry Finn's Duke and Dauphin?"

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-musk-business-pionee_b_12353902

https://www.huckfinnsrestaurant.com/menu/

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 3 November 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link

not only does this idea seem horrible but I'm pretty sure that Reddit already tried this and pulled the plug within 2 weeks

Elon Musk Told Twitter Advertisers He Plans to Offer Tiers of Content Moderation Similar to Movie Age Ratings https://t.co/gPp0fhuygT

— Matt Navarra (@MattNavarra) November 3, 2022

frogbs, Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

apparently he's laying off 90% of the machine learning org.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 3 November 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link

giving an individual content rating for every tweet seems pretty easy to do, why waste the money on staff?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 November 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link

Wait wait Elon’s big pitch is that if I DON’T pay money he will STOP amplifying my tweets to people outside my usual circle???

SIGN ME UP FOR THE $0 PLAN

— Courtney Milan 🦖 (@courtneymilan) November 1, 2022

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 3 November 2022 22:19 (one year ago) link

Actually,

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 3 November 2022 22:27 (one year ago) link

this is all so crazy there are ways to reduce headcount that dont get strip clubs talking about it lol

PSA from Las Vegas: pic.twitter.com/gFwlzsROtY

— dev 🫧 (@bummermaid) November 3, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 November 2022 22:32 (one year ago) link

caek quit too early

mh, Thursday, 3 November 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link

its a different kind of amazon right fellas

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 November 2022 22:45 (one year ago) link

Seems weird how chaotic our society is.

treeship., Thursday, 3 November 2022 22:50 (one year ago) link

the last bigco without a hiring freeze announced a hiring freeze this morning, so i think i quit just right tyvm.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 3 November 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link

its nice how the fed and big business are working together on this recession

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 November 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link

Riding giantess

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 3 November 2022 22:54 (one year ago) link

Time for ILX to hire

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 November 2022 22:54 (one year ago) link

Twitter is basically the main platform used by corporations, media organizations, prominent individuals, and even nation states to communicate directly with the public. About half of what people talk about on cable news are responses to tweets. Should be treated like a utility.

treeship., Thursday, 3 November 2022 22:54 (one year ago) link

no authentication! he really thinks people just want the check

We saw internal docs with more insight into the new Twitter Blue:

-Launch on Nov. 7 but only in current markets (US, CA, Aus, NZ)
-Check marks for subscribers, no current ID authentication
-Some features announced by Musk won't be ready
-Euro launch soonhttps://t.co/K646aQrThi pic.twitter.com/1jToHytXfi

— Ryan Mac 🙃 (@RMac18) November 3, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 November 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link

Some features announced by Musk won't be ready

but
the team
slept
in
the office

nashwan, Thursday, 3 November 2022 23:05 (one year ago) link

The "pay money to DM" thing is presumably opt-in (like a low rent Cameo) but god what a beautiful scam - you know that when Trump is back his DMs will be open and every guy with Oakleys and a CCW will be spending $8 a pop to send him a DM that will be immediately deleted by Eric Trump.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 3 November 2022 23:24 (one year ago) link

lebron james cannot wait to pay $96 a year so twitter can make money letting total freaks racially harass him in the dm’s https://t.co/1Tp5Vk27b0

— kilgore trout, death to putiner (@KT_So_It_Goes) November 3, 2022

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 November 2022 23:33 (one year ago) link

Finally get to tell Emo Philips what I think about his so-called 'haircut' hrummphh

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 3 November 2022 23:48 (one year ago) link

Should be treated like a utility.

Utilities are regulated, but in return they are usually guaranteed a profit of maybe 7% or 8%. This would be like Elon finding a gold mine while picking his nose.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 3 November 2022 23:52 (one year ago) link

das a lotta servers baby

BREAKING: Elon Musk has directed Twitter’s teams to find over $1 billion in annual infrastructure cost savings by cutting cloud services and extra server space, per Reuters.

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) November 3, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link

Being down three days a month should be a boon for revenue

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 4 November 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link

I'll say this much, at this point the reason I haven't left Twitter yet could very well be Elon Musk.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link

his thinking is prob something like i can cut all the stuff that not twitters core functionality various expensive in salary and computation stuff like machine learning moderation and whatnot then those savings + revenue from my new subscription stuff will look good if i can sell twitter before it collapses

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

Lol that is definitely what he is doing. Pretty funny he was forced to buy it.

treeship., Friday, 4 November 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link

couple issues with that is hes doing it in an extremely messy public way that turns users and advertisers off, and if youre trying to sell to private equity or whatever you already did the thing that they like to do ie gut the companies and saddle them with debt so its less interesting to them

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:16 (one year ago) link

Twitter is basically the main platform used by corporations, media organizations, prominent individuals, and even nation states to communicate directly with the public. About half of what people talk about on cable news are responses to tweets. Should be treated like a utility.


Sorry this is laughable

poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Friday, 4 November 2022 00:17 (one year ago) link

its kinda true but also if twitter ceased to exist everything would be ok

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link

I see it now.. this is The Producers of social media

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link

I think it's quite possible that the only thing on Musk's mind right now is finding a way to make his money back, future of Twitter be damned, like a one-man private equity group.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link

contrast elon trying to deny people their severance with how stripe is handling its layoffs https://stripe.com/en-gb-nl/newsroom/news/ceo-patrick-collisons-email-to-stripe-employees

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:21 (one year ago) link

There are roughly 75 million cable subscribers in the US, which is about equal to the numbers of supposed US Twitter users. The argument that something like that should be treated as a utility is absurd.

poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Friday, 4 November 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link

we can treat it as a utility if we want

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link

It’s not about the direct users though, it’s about how many things start there and spread to conventional media. Its influence surpasses its popularity and makes it problematic to have in the hands of a single person.

treeship., Friday, 4 November 2022 00:24 (one year ago) link

I mean it seems like he is mostly going to wreck it, which would be fine, but in principle

treeship., Friday, 4 November 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link

“this mind rot is so influential on the other mind rot, surely we must make it a public utility “

poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Friday, 4 November 2022 00:26 (one year ago) link

its a reasonable argument

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

however i do think twitter was kinda toast before musk ever got ahold of it and now its really toast

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:35 (one year ago) link

He's going to turn it into some kind of unusable myspace junk and then sell it off for like $15 million or something. He's probably the only person in the world who could afford to burn through $44 billion, and he's going to do it.

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:36 (one year ago) link

thats my guess too

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:37 (one year ago) link

I wonder if that will deflate the cult of musk that has emerged on the right. Some ppl are very worshipful in how they talk about this guy

treeship., Friday, 4 November 2022 00:38 (one year ago) link

what could really deflate it is if he doesnt let them organize murders on his site

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link

Well the oath keepers and such, yes. But even your average rogan listener sees him as a brilliant visionary

treeship., Friday, 4 November 2022 00:41 (one year ago) link

If the Cult of Trump is any indication, every failure will only boost his standing among the faithful.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 4 November 2022 00:42 (one year ago) link

Kanye seems to have actually lost his fans though.

treeship., Friday, 4 November 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link

It’s very hard to say how these things shake out.

treeship., Friday, 4 November 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link

i mean joe rogan spread the litter boxes in classrooms conspiracy the other day, this shit is way off the rails

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link

Would replacing toilets with litter boxes at twitter save money on water? Could be a good idea

treeship., Friday, 4 November 2022 00:46 (one year ago) link

But yeah i get your point. The whole right wing and alt media space in america is extremely radical and irresponsible. These are the people who seem to love elon, even though i don’t think right wingers drive electric cars…

treeship., Friday, 4 November 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

theres another problem for him

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:52 (one year ago) link

there's definitely a right wing type that drives teslas, i know a guy through work who is exactly that

call all destroyer, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:53 (one year ago) link

The fail whale! Hahah this whole situ gets more fkn hilarious every 12 hours or so. Except the staff layoffs part, that isn't funny.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 4 November 2022 00:54 (one year ago) link

there is def a conservative ev driver but i wouldnt say its the most common guy

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:59 (one year ago) link

Lmao at charging $8 for a check mark with no authentication the day before the us elections. What could go wrong.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 November 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

they're free market libertarian types who think elon is a genius and are also getting socially conservative as they age

call all destroyer, Friday, 4 November 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

i know ive said it before itt but elon used to have a just perfect public image and he threw it in the trash for what to post some memes

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 01:03 (one year ago) link

one theory i heard was that elon went right in order to court that demo to buy teslas cause he used up all the liberals by selling them shitty cars, i do not think thats true but its a nice theory anyway

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 01:05 (one year ago) link

True

once upon a time only a different set of weird nerds understood this meme now everybody does. pic.twitter.com/AoR763T1oB

— Atrios (@Atrios) November 3, 2022

What's strange is that there are a lot fewer weird nerds in my mentions when I criticize Musk than there were before he bought Twitter.

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) November 3, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 November 2022 01:07 (one year ago) link

one theory i heard was that elon went right in order to court that demo to buy teslas cause he used up all the liberals by selling them shitty cars, i do not think thats true but its a nice theory anyway

― lag∞n, Thursday, November 3, 2022 9:05 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah this strategy is too coherent for elon

call all destroyer, Friday, 4 November 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link

i don’t think right wingers drive electric cars…

The Trumpy neighbor across the alley from me drives a plug-in hybrid and just got solar.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 November 2022 01:21 (one year ago) link

sales are already pretty even (you have to be rich enough to buy a Tesla in the first place and thus...) but Elon's not hurting Tesla as a brand with conservatives
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/03/cars/tesla-buyer-politics/index.html

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 4 November 2022 01:27 (one year ago) link

Lol pic.twitter.com/fIpbLlis0k

— Citizen Shane (@ShaneSheehy) November 1, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 02:11 (one year ago) link

repost this one Elon

https://i.imgur.com/4o87E2W.jpg

frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 02:21 (one year ago) link

Employees in Twitter just got an email from their bosses saying layoffs are coming tomorrow.

Those who are staying will get a note tomorrow in their work email. Those who are let go will get an email sent to their personal address.

Slot machine-style layoffs.

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) November 4, 2022

Lol Twitter offices closed to ensure safety. This is like being ghosted by your job.

holy shit they're firing coders based on how many lines of code they wrote

an idiot like me wouldve stayed on for sure lmao

frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 02:26 (one year ago) link

has any big company ever fired half its workers WITHOUT immediately going into a death spiral? like within the last 40 years

frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 02:31 (one year ago) link

Why do people think Twitter isn’t worth 45 billion? Recall, Microsoft is currently acquiring Blizzard for 68.7 billion! A handful of companies could and would make that deal. The trickiest bit is getting regulatory approval but I feel like that becomes a lot easier if regulators perceive Musk as sinking the ship.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 4 November 2022 02:42 (one year ago) link

Blizzard makes a lot of money though don't they

frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 02:44 (one year ago) link

I don't really know anything about coding, but that doesn't seem like the best performance metric?

2021 Twitter revenue was 5 billion. 2021 Blizzard revenue was 8 billion. They both make a lot of money!

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 4 November 2022 03:01 (one year ago) link

microsoft only bought blizzard because they love video games

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 03:14 (one year ago) link

I kind of think the opposite — people love believing that rich people they have political disagreements with are secretly unimpressive morons, but even if Musk’s Twitter investment goes to $0 he’s still had a tremendous world-changing career with impressive achievements. https://t.co/Jf08I17my7

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) November 4, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 4 November 2022 03:56 (one year ago) link

Ah see, Mr. Yglesias proves himself thoroughly wrong by being an openly unimpressive moron.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 November 2022 03:57 (one year ago) link

If cost monitoring (or lack thereof) is what I think it’s like, laying off even half a data science department is going to stop hundreds of thousands of dollars a month in random, non-intersecting experiments in figuring out user stats of whatever per month

I haven’t found a company yet who has figured out how to do this intelligently at scale it’s all “gpu machine go brrrrrr”

mh, Friday, 4 November 2022 04:41 (one year ago) link

Why do people think Twitter isn’t worth 45 billion? Recall, Microsoft is currently acquiring Blizzard for 68.7 billion! A handful of companies could and would make that deal. The trickiest bit is getting regulatory approval but I feel like that becomes a lot easier if regulators perceive Musk as sinking the ship.

― Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, November 3, 2022 10:42 PM (yesterday)

twitter's peer companies (meta, snap, goog (via youtube)) are down ~50-80% since april, when elon made his offer. what's sort of neat is that because of musk's lawsuit, you can see what the market thought twitter was worth when they thought the deal would be renegotiated or wouldn't close entirely - and that number wasn't 44 billion! now, noone's saying it won't be worth 44 billion someday in the future, but my personal take is that if that ever happens, it will be due to some rising-tide-floats-all-boats forces such as a return to a ZIRP environment and the exuberance/frothiness of 2020/2021... and that's only if musk hasn't run it into the ground by then!

fyi, activision posted $2.7 billion in profits for 2021, while twitter posted $221 million in losses. so there's part of your answer? also, activision is the one that faces regulatory scrutiny here (via microsoft already being heavy in the gaming business / needing antitrust approval globally), not musk (twitter is not synergistic with electric vehicles nor is it synergistic with launch rockets, although maybe musk thinks one day it could be?). also, the deal already closed so there's not really any more regulatory risk!

, Friday, 4 November 2022 12:12 (one year ago) link

Wait so there’s no verification of who is paying for a blue check? Isn’t the entire value of having a blue check is that the person behind it is verified? So if anyone can pay for it, and it no longer means you are verified, what is the value? Why would anyone get a blue check? Just hoping that some dumb people who somehow hadn’t heard about the new blue check policy will think you are the real Joe Biden or something?

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 4 November 2022 12:56 (one year ago) link

musk et al seem to have bought into the idea that a blue check is a status symbol which was never true and if it was then you are of course destroying that value by making this change

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 13:00 (one year ago) link

its weird cause authentication does have value thats something you could reasonably sell, where as now the blue check is looking more like.......a scarlet letter

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 13:02 (one year ago) link

idk maybe they arent capable of authenticating people right now because they fired that department

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 13:03 (one year ago) link

there may be some utility to scammers over the short term until people figure out you can just buy one

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 13:03 (one year ago) link

But scammers would NEVER pay a small amount for potential greater rewards!!!

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 4 November 2022 13:10 (one year ago) link

I become more and more convinced every day that there are androids among us who don’t understand human behavior at all.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 4 November 2022 13:12 (one year ago) link

My impression is that nearly all of us are saying it won't be worth $44 billion one day?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 4 November 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link

iirc a big part of the rollout of the blue checkmark back in the day was kind of soft-bullying celebs into joining twitter. like "we cant shut down these 9 imposter accounts unless you join so we can verify you". I remember celeb twitter accounts from back then that just had one pass-ag tweet like "i only joined to get them to delete other accounts, please visit my website"

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 4 November 2022 13:41 (one year ago) link

Elon musk is what happens when the ghosts of a 16 year old edgelord and an 18th century coal baron struggle to control the same body

— Mahogany (@Mahoganytooth) November 4, 2022

frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 13:47 (one year ago) link

The blue check mark was a status symbol tho! Esp for my friends in weird bands who didn’t “deserve” it. Many xxxxxxps

but like just for fun right

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 14:29 (one year ago) link

well it was funNY that's for sure

i mean there is evidence that people do take them seriously but i dont think its that popular of an idea

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link

things got weird when people assigned value other than "yes this is the person they're claiming to be"

twitter is partially to blame because they don't make you lock your username or (iirc) twitter handle (@) when you're verified. they then tend to revoke your verified status if you abuse it (see: italian elon musk, etc)

mh, Friday, 4 November 2022 14:49 (one year ago) link

Twitter has had a massive drop in revenue, due to activist groups pressuring advertisers, even though nothing has changed with content moderation and we did everything we could to appease the activists.

Extremely messed up! They’re trying to destroy free speech in America.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 4, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 November 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link

lmao

mh, Friday, 4 November 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link

we tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!!

frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link

damn

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link

lmao @ him saying "nothing has changed with content moderation and we did everything we could to appease the activists" the same day he fired literally half the staff

frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/KdiuHd6gaC

— Elon Musk (@ChrisWarcraft) November 4, 2022

gotta admit this is tremendous content

frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:06 (one year ago) link

lol former Viking Chris Kluwe! good dude

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 November 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link

Whoa https://t.co/J0Xpq6G86T

— Keanu Reeves (@abnerpastoll) November 4, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link

everyone's doing it now that verification is disappearing lol

mh, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

I did not expect it to take less than two weeks for it to get this bad. Well done Elon!

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 November 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link

it's cool that free speech in America is entirely dependent on advertisers

rob, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:19 (one year ago) link

he loves posting and loves the reaction he’s getting.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 November 2022 15:21 (one year ago) link

not to do the Trumpy "here's what he's REALLY doing" thing for a guy who probably hasn't slept in 4 days but is there a chance he's saying this as a way to justify the massive layoffs without getting sued? I mean legally I'm sure this won't work but Musk seems like one of those "they have to tell you if they're a cop, man" guys

frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

firing 50% of the workforce will be so good for morale - imagine losing that many of your co workers in a day

"Musk plans to eliminate half of Twitter’s workforce to slash costs at the social media platform he acquired for $44 billion last month, people with knowledge of the matter have said. The company must also find ways to cope with interest costs on a massive debt pile."

https://www.pressherald.com/2022/11/04/layoffs-lawsuits-begin-after-musk-takes-twitter-helm/

| (Latham Green), Friday, 4 November 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link

looks like he's following the letter of the warn act

Latest: “It looks like employees are getting their notices and at least some will be paid until January 4,” says the attorney who sued Twitter under WARN Act. “I am pleased that Elon Musk learned something from the lawsuit we brought against him at Tesla" https://t.co/OMwAAFzLlE

— Josh Eidelson (@josheidelson) November 4, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 November 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link

(accidentaly fires entire ar15 magazine into my foot & leg with 100% accuracy rate) alright. thats fine. heres what i think happened, [1/82]

— wint (@dril) June 9, 2017

frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link

Wonder what percentage of the team that suspends misbehaving verified accounts is getting the axe.

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 4 November 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link

For some reason I read ar15 as art15 which must be a cool art zine

| (Latham Green), Friday, 4 November 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link

it’s funny cause looking at the most recent results of every social media company, ad buying on a whole is way down and projected to keep on going down as advertisers braces for the recession. in this environment, twitter’s implosion / elon’s own goaling must look like a freakin gift, easiest spending cut to justify ever if you’re an advertiser.

, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

everythings fine

Having a nightly standup is bad enough, but imagine holding one while everyone around you is being unceremoniously fired pic.twitter.com/aumYS2LW1V

— Shantini Vyas (@shantinix) November 4, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link

On Wednesday, if you would’ve asked, I would’ve said that product designers who can’t program but work on software is bad for software and the entire field of “AI ethics and responsibility” is quackery. Yet, after seeing all these people laid off, I feel terrible for thinking this.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 4 November 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link


The blue check mark was a status symbol tho! Esp for my friends in weird bands who didn’t “deserve” it. Many xxxxxxps
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, November 4, 2022 9:49 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

It’s also very popular in science where people are paid in prestige.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link

Sure pic.twitter.com/9Zbxcmt5Kj

— Katrina McKinney (@catincoggnito) November 4, 2022

firm foundation of unyielding despair (Sanpaku), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link

Esther Crawford is one example of why I believe product designers who can’t program make terrible software.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

twitter's peer companies (meta, snap, goog (via youtube)) are down ~50-80% since april, when elon made his offer. what's sort of neat is that because of musk's lawsuit, you can see what the market thought twitter was worth when they thought the deal would be renegotiated or wouldn't close entirely - and that number wasn't 44 billion! now, noone's saying it won't be worth 44 billion someday in the future, but my personal take is that if that ever happens, it will be due to some rising-tide-floats-all-boats forces such as a return to a ZIRP environment and the exuberance/frothiness of 2020/2021... and that's only if musk hasn't run it into the ground by then!

fwiw I agree, I just think that’ll happened. The “correction” went way beyond reasonable correction. I believe all of these companies are presently undervalued. Including my current employer who can’t even ship avatar legs.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link

idk programmers who design also make terrible software, its pretty hard to be good at both, and also hard to do both

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link

idk programmers who design also make terrible software, its pretty hard to be good at both, and also hard to do both

― lag∞n, Friday, November 4, 2022 12:06 PM (twenty-six seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol fair!

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

software is hard is how i break it down to an extent

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

software is hard is how i break it down to an extent

― lag∞n, Friday, November 4, 2022 12:07 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

My point is really that product designers who can’t program struggle to iterate. They can make the design process feel glacial and cumbersome. If you can program, it’s possible to brute-force a solution and retain some creative momentum. I guess this is probably a better discussion for a different thread!

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link

And, truthfully, there’s nothing worse than a non-creative product engineer. You can usually spot them by their vocal love for Haskell.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

I’ve written this elsewhere in this thread, but I was thinking about it this morning. I have friends at both Tesla and SpaceX and they all seem satisfied by their jobs. They all say Musk can be a great CEO because his ADHD is so intense that, in practice, he leaves everyone alone to do their work relatively unmanaged because he’s so frequently distracted by unimportant nonsense. Zuck still commits code and it’s annoying. sund4r frequently attends design meetings and I imagine that’s annoying too. I wonder what they think of Musk making all these product changes at Twitter, making people work 80 hour works to ship his pet features, running Twitter polls, etc.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link

xps re nightly standup

I love my family and I’m grateful they understand that there are times where I need to go into overdrive to grind and push in order to deliver. Building new things at Twitter's scale is very hard to do. I'm lucky to be doing this work alongside some of the best people in tech. 💙

— Esther Crawford ✨ (@esthercrawford) November 2, 2022

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

And, truthfully, there’s nothing worse than a non-creative product engineer. You can usually spot them by their vocal love for Haskell.

― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, November 4, 2022 12:10 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

cmon u know you want to work at a place where you can just write weird haskell programs all day and never have to talk to another designer/marketer/bizdev guy, thats the dream

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

man’s got Your Da energy no matter how many emojis he uses

The hilarious tragedy of Elon Musk is he really wants to post but he can’t. The man can’t post. It’s not in his blood and it never will be. He can spend all the money in the world and he’ll never be a poster. The real ones know exactly what I mean.

— gaming on an ultrawide (toilet) (@Arr) November 3, 2022

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

xp - goddamn the responses to that tweet are bleak as fuck.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

My point is really that product designers who can’t program struggle to iterate. They can make the design process feel glacial and cumbersome. If you can program, it’s possible to brute-force a solution and retain some creative momentum. I guess this is probably a better discussion for a different thread!

― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, November 4, 2022 12:09 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i would like to hear more about this tbh mb in here

Programming as a career

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link

xp LinkedIn brain

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link

Sorry, honey (shhh, don't cry now). Mommy has to sleep on the floor tonight because the rocket boy that memes all day bought all the tweets and he's making us work round the clock so we can charge $8 to suckers for a blue checkmark. Very important work.

— curbanski (@ChrisUrbanski) November 2, 2022

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link

Actually even worse than that

To those commenting on our family: our 3 children are watching Esther model what it looks like to give your all to something that matters to you, and watching me model what it looks like to support a loved one 100% #RideOrDie. The kids are alright. 😀

— Bob CowhΞrd | cowherd.eth (@bobcowherd) November 2, 2022

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

guys, it’s fucking Twitter, you’re not working on a vaccine.

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

i dunno I'm becoming pretty immune to social media rn

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

We are #OneTeam and we use the hashtag #LoveWhereYouWork to show it, which is why I retweeted with #SleepWhereYouWork -- a cheeky nod to fellow Tweeps. We've been in the midst of a crazy public acquisition for months but we keep going & I'm so proud of our strength & resilience.

— Esther Crawford ✨ (@esthercrawford) November 2, 2022

Delivering this speech into a blurry Hi-8 camcorder while a masked man with a South African accent holds a gun to my beagle’s head.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

Bob Cowherd is a crypto huckster. I think Esther Crawford is too.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link

Both pathetic.

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link



fwiw I agree, I just think that’ll happened. The “correction” went way beyond reasonable correction. I believe all of these companies are presently undervalued. Including my current employer who can’t even ship avatar legs.


i realize you have a vested interest in this (pun intended) but there are plenty of folks who believe that 2020/2021 is the anomaly, that we won’t see such exuberance again for a long time.

of course the natural direction of the stock market is up, so it’s possible tech stocks will return to their 2020/2021 highs, but it may take years and years for these companies to grow into those valuations. also possible that may never happen! the market is a strange mistress. 🤷🏻‍♂️

, Friday, 4 November 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

anecdotally, it seems like he's gone out of his way to fire people on maternity/paternity leave, and people who are expecting.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:34 (one year ago) link

yeah the correction was multiple things: the market being overvalued in general, those companies being overvalued in particular, and those companies starting to not look like rocketships anymore, facebook had seen nothing but massive growth up til then and now all of a sudden thats looking pretty shaky, obvs not a thing the market loves, thats why zuck did the metaverse he needs a new opportunity, but people arent buying lol

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

iiuc esther crawford is a social listening (i.e. marketing) huckster, but she got moved onto "moonshot" stuff when she joined via an acquistion, and moonshot == crypto under jack.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

it's happening

The site continues to display signs of all kinds of incidents.

Loading tweets has had < 1 9 SR for me since my first tweet and I keep running into weird bugs I've never seen before, like the desktop site redirecting me to the mobile site login page and then failing; pic.twitter.com/wlIKO4uJ75

— Dan Luu (@altluu) November 4, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link

I wonder if its Musk vs. the Algorithms like Attack of teh CLones?

| (Latham Green), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link

(xp, he's ex-twitter infra)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link

lol the site is already breaking, impressive

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

i wonder why elon decided to do it this way, he easily couldve done a more normal amount of layoffs like 15% in a normal way, then had buyouts and a hiring freeze then another round of layoffs in six months and accomplished the same thing without precipitating a huge pr crisis and probably a technical crisis too and a morale crisis as well maybe some other crises idk, such bad choices hes just unstable seems like

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 16:45 (one year ago) link

Guys, I'm starting to think this Elon Musk guy isn't actually very smart and is terrible at running businesses.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link

he did amazingly well with tesla tbf, tho in a very scammy high risk way, he seems to have lost all discipline, maybe he just cant work without huge government subsidies

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

he easily couldve done a more normal amount of layoffs like 15% in a normal way, then had buyouts and a hiring freeze then another round of layoffs in six months and accomplished the same thing without precipitating a huge pr crisis

The PR crisis is the point. Disruption is the point. Cruelty is the point. What is confusing about this?

If Trump still had competent lawyers willing to work for him (lol) they would be suing Musk for copyright infringement and/or biting the Trumpian steez

Seriously it is like the most massively telegraphed heel turn in history, why is anyone acting surprised? Shitty person acts shitty, film at eleven

blissfully unawarewolf (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link

i mean yeah except he also does seem to think that it should have worked out better for him, these are still not the outcomes he wants

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link

user @maplecocaine: each day on twitter there is one main character. the goal is to never be it
user @elonmusk: i could be it for SO many months dude just watch

he's like when the villain plugs their brain directly into the central mainframe flow

https://media.tenor.com/GNQ_kULIvKMAAAAd/irina-spalko-indiana-jones.gif

mark s, Friday, 4 November 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

it's cool that free speech in America is entirely dependent on advertisers

there are days when I think that no one in the USA understands what "free speech" really means. instead, every day millions upon millions of people in the USA loudly, openly and incessantly complain that it's being denied them. after which they freely go about their lives and that's free speech in a nutshell.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 4 November 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgvHjn0XgAIRAE5?format=jpg&name=medium

frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link

The PR crisis is the point. Disruption is the point. Cruelty is the point. What is confusing about this?

I thought the point was to make money

frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

the point was to make a weird impulsive decision to buy the company then get forced to buy it when you tried to wriggle out out of the deal

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

then plug brain directly into central mainframe flow

mark s, Friday, 4 November 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link

it's like literally everything he does is the most opposite possible to touching grass

mark s, Friday, 4 November 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

very funny to develop terminal posting brain so late in life

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

I mean he's got the same brain disease that every conservative has, this weird belief that every complex issue is actually simple but can't be dealt with that way because the woke left hates free speech and will throw you in solitary the instant you use the wrong pronoun or whatever. but unlike those conservatives he actually has the ability to fuck around and find out, and is so mind bogglingly stupid that he actually went ahead and did it

frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

Be extremely funny if he tanked Tesla so much he got forced out

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Friday, 4 November 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

def on the table

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

i know it’s already been said but god it’s just Trump on twitter 2.0 -corporate version
Elon running company through tweets & getting good grace from stans bc he “is a successful businessman”

bleh

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 November 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

trump and elon also similar in that their "business success" is very tied in to their ability to manipulate the media

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

I mean he's got the same brain disease that every conservative has, this weird belief that every complex issue is actually simple but can't be dealt with that way because the woke left hates free speech and will throw you in solitary the instant you use the wrong pronoun or whatever. but unlike those conservatives he actually has the ability to fuck around and find out, and is so mind bogglingly stupid that he actually went ahead and did it


Also has come from money and has had a safety net against risky behaviour that existed almost his entire life, I imagine.

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Friday, 4 November 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

i know it’s already been said but god it’s just Trump on twitter 2.0 -corporate version
Elon running company through tweets & getting good grace from stans bc he “is a successful businessman”

corporate Trump is the worst Trump to be, dude lost money on practically everything he did that didn't directly involve fraud

frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link

the tesla analysts i follow all have mentions full of $TSLA investors saying "ok this was funny elon but let's get back to the real stuff now, stop fucking around"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 November 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link

xp didn't Trump go bankrupt dealing real estate in NYC in the 80s? (ie during a real estate boom in one of the most lucrative real estate markets in the world)

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 4 November 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link

According to Business Insider, he told an audience on Friday: "I tried to get out of the deal, it was like that scene from The Godfather.

"I mean I think most people would say, given how market has evolved this year, the price is on the high side."

We're not sure what scene he is referring to in The Godfather, the classic film about the Mafia. Hopefully not the one involving a horse's head.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 4 November 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

This scene springs to mind -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UneS2Uwc6xw

MaresNest, Friday, 4 November 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link

Max:

I’ve been thinking about this divide because, since Musk bought Twitter, most of his public statements have suggested he holds the first view of Twitter: It’s a “a common digital town square, where a wide range of beliefs can be debated in a healthy manner,” as he said in a statement to advertisers this week. But charging money for blue-badged check marks -- check marks that won’t even be nominally connected to a real “verification” process -- suggests a deeper understanding of Twitter as something much closer to the second view: a place to establish and enjoy your social dominance as a “prominent” person.

The truth is I can’t really tell what Musk thinks Twitter is -- if he actually does imagine it as a “common digital town square” dependent on transparency and authenticity, or if he agrees with the resentful Silicon Valley freaks he’s surrounded himself with that it’s a game of hierarchical social positioning, or if he thinks of it as both or either depending on the last person he talked to. Over the past week he hasn’t acted like a person with a real plan, let alone a clear concept or theory of balancing the tensions of an advertising-funded social-media platform. Instead he’s made impulsive and contradictory decisions, acted out for attention and approval, and attempted to appease varying intransigent groups of users before lashing out when praise wasn’t forthcoming, all the while complaining and posting vaguely resentful memes. He’s been acting, in other words, like a message-board moderator.

jaymc, Friday, 4 November 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

He's going to make a print version of Twitter delivered to every subscriber's doorstep

| (Latham Green), Friday, 4 November 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

lol wut? (xp)

mod (wmc), Friday, 4 November 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link

they are tweets printed on concrete blocks and thrown through the window

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 4 November 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

it's like literally everything he does is the most opposite possible to touching grass

― mark s, Friday, November 4, 2022 1:33 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglin

This is good i am going to steal it to describe so many people

that's a good article jaymc, I really do think the most simple explanation for this is that's he's basically apartheid Lowtax

frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link

something something radium

mh, Friday, 4 November 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link

lmao when you fire 50% of people with a coin toss things like this happen

Just to be clear, he fired the team working on this. https://t.co/56I1uyBIIR

— sillyrobin is a fmr Tweep (@SillyRobin) November 4, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 November 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

lol

that was the only other twitter blue thing that seemed possibly worthwhile, maybe an Apple News alternative or something that'd be more relevant if you get most of your headlines via tweet

mh, Friday, 4 November 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

a lot of companies have undergone layoffs or a major change in methodology or structure but those things often take **years** to work out. I don't think I've ever seen one try to do it this quickly without immediately going under. I'm curious what the next few weeks are gonna look like. obviously with half (!!) their staff getting the axe and (presumably) many more actively looking for new work it's only a matter of time before the company starts to experience some major issues, either a lengthy downtime or big accounts getting hacked or the whole thing just devolving into an unmoderated cesspool overnight. kinda get the feeling that if Twitter becomes unusable for like 2 weeks the vast majority of their users just won't come back. maybe it won't even be that long.

frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link

Fail whale being hastily sorted out for the app as we speak

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Friday, 4 November 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link

lmao keep posting dude

You tweeted a conspiracy theory from a website less credible than the National Enquirer like four days ago. We all need to look inward as well as outward.

— Hank Green 🧦 (@hankgreen) November 4, 2022

And therefore Twitter should die?

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 4, 2022

frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link

got that real Big Don energy with that reply

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 November 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link

thank god he can't run for President

Elon, face it: As long as you are not perfect in every way, you are to blame for everything that goes wrong. Because everyone else who criticizes you is perfect in every way and therefore has the right to blame you for everything.

— Maren Kahnert 🦊⚔❤ (@marenkahnert) November 4, 2022

🤣💯

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 4, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 4 November 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link

This really is like if Michael Scott was the world's richest man.

Chris L, Friday, 4 November 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link

An illuminating exchange:

one of those stories in three tweets pic.twitter.com/Attc0TUWPs

— Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) November 4, 2022

I know little about marketing, but Paskalis' MMA Global seems to have just about every big brand as a member.

firm foundation of unyielding despair (Sanpaku), Friday, 4 November 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link

coincidentally he seems to be currently celebrating brand safety week

Post Brand Safety week speakers dinner recap with two great friends. pic.twitter.com/ShKT21g1kw

— Lou Paskalis 🇺🇸 (@LouPas) November 3, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 21:21 (one year ago) link

Some Jack Torrance energy there in that photo

MaresNest, Friday, 4 November 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link

the kubrick stare, brand safety week edition

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 21:26 (one year ago) link

As a former SRE, I'd just like to say:
This site isn't going to burn down. That's way too calm and organized a death for a site this big which apparently just fired most of the on-call staff.

— foone🏳️‍⚧️ (@Foone) November 4, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 21:33 (one year ago) link

Right now a disk is filling up on a server somewhere in some data center that a person who has just been laid off has been manually clearing every few days and when that disk fills up Twitter will go down.

— @✧✧✧@i✧✧.excha✧✧✧ (@craigcalef) November 4, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 21:33 (one year ago) link

xp i think that thread is a bit rich, but i keep getting surprised about how fast things are going, and who knows

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 November 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link

this is not wrong

Part of me is morbidly curious to know what happens when you try to take infra spend from $1.8bn to $0.8bn after firing 80% of your infra staff and with 100% of those remaining looking to be somewhere else as soon as possible.

— Mark Dennehy (@MarkDennehy) November 4, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 November 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link

its an interesting experiment lol

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link

Evidence that Twitter is falling apart: I've been receiving multiple DMs from people who joined in December 1969. Anyone familiar with the Unix Epoch will recognize that date and that it indicates timestamp failures. pic.twitter.com/B4Cbs0GeXM

— Ken Shirriff (@kenshirriff) November 4, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 21:48 (one year ago) link

someone should look into why computers dont work better

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 21:51 (one year ago) link

I can't speak to halving the infrastructure support but I know what it looks like when you outsource over half of your infrastructure support and the outsourced support is nearly worthless. It's not good!

mh, Friday, 4 November 2022 22:06 (one year ago) link

I wonder how long an outage or outages would need to be to kill Twitter off?

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Friday, 4 November 2022 22:10 (one year ago) link

This new Facebook sliding pay scale based on popularity to message people is bullcrap. $5 to message Josh Groban? pic.twitter.com/SH5VZfZHwo

— Katie Notopoulos (@katienotopoulos) April 24, 2013

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 22:10 (one year ago) link

katie n’s account reminds me i’d pay for twitter blue if it let me have an animated gif as my profile pic

, Friday, 4 November 2022 22:18 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/joQLyGFwRa

— Bullwark (@MattOben) November 4, 2022

mh, Friday, 4 November 2022 22:29 (one year ago) link

assuming they pulled source control stats I wonder if it was lines written or lines changed

it’d be funny if the top ranked dev was some pedant that kept running some code formatting tool

mh, Friday, 4 November 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link

lol this whole thing is so wild, also he had tesla guys making the decisions so there was no one to say like hey this person does have a ton of commits but they take care of this critical thing

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 22:43 (one year ago) link

why are you speed running firing half a company treat yourself take a few weeks to figure it out

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 22:44 (one year ago) link

^this

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 November 2022 22:47 (one year ago) link

it’s the old “move fast and break things” style of techbrodom

poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Friday, 4 November 2022 22:50 (one year ago) link

it’s not so much “build a plane in midair”
as
“buy a plane while it’s flying, kick half the crew out, and find out how passengers feel re zeppelins vs planes and maybe start dismantling and do a zeppelin type thing instead but yknow cooler”

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 November 2022 22:52 (one year ago) link

he obvs just thinks its all bullshit engineers are always whining about something but if you just stick to your business guy instincts everything works out *cell phone video of tesla burning on a desolate highway*

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link

The thing I can't quite understand about paid DMs is that one of the appeals of Twitter has always been that you could conceivably catch the attention of a famous person *without* needing to pay for the privilege. You can just tag them! I guess a DM would make it more likely that the famous person would see the message, but unless Twitter is paying them to respond, I don't know why they wouldn't just ignore it.

jaymc, Friday, 4 November 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link

could do an opt in thing where the celebrity sets the price and gets a cut but only gets paid upon reply

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

Thank god for the thumbs up emoji

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 4 November 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link

ikr

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link

I absolutely love lagoon’s dedication to being on this guy’s case, if Twitter goes down I will come straight here for live reaction

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Friday, 4 November 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link

lol thank you, this thread has been a good outlet so that i dont tweet about him all day

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 23:04 (one year ago) link

it’s the old “move fast and break things” style of techbrodom

this, very much this. like a nathaniel west novel for the tech age

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 4 November 2022 23:06 (one year ago) link

The fun thing is going to be when his actions really impact everyone negatively and his fans blame it on anyone other than him.

death generator (lukas), Friday, 4 November 2022 23:10 (one year ago) link

the impersonations when blue check goes money = lots of people gonna be trying to get Josh Groban arrested by posting in first person about crimes he committed

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 4 November 2022 23:10 (one year ago) link

xpost my friend the otherwise-liberal Elon defender, I thought for sure this would be it, and he wrote a three paragraph essay and told everyone they were not welcome to disagree w/ him on the topic in his thread

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 4 November 2022 23:10 (one year ago) link

fuck this whole blue-check thing

because fuck anyone not running dark mode

mookieproof, Friday, 4 November 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link

So many dudes gonna be sending their life savings to fake sex worker accounts (already a problem but infinitely worse with paid checkmarks) and inevitably taking it out on the real person.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 4 November 2022 23:26 (one year ago) link

xp I’ve never used dark mode anywhere

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Friday, 4 November 2022 23:33 (one year ago) link

white text on a black background hurts my eyes

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 4 November 2022 23:44 (one year ago) link

is there some kind of Brewsters Millions situation going on here

Thank you.

A thermonuclear name & shame is exactly what will happen if this continues.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 4, 2022

frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 23:50 (one year ago) link

threatening advertisers should work out

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 23:56 (one year ago) link

lol @ his followers suggesting he should sue them for not advertising anymore

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 4 November 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

im sorry its a lil too on the nose for him to bring the guys from the project that famously doesnt work

Elon Musk has pulled more than 50 Tesla employees into his Twitter takeover, most of them Autopilot engineers https://t.co/ogt21X90Dh <--- At Tesla, Python is a preferred scripting language, and at Twitter programmers use Scala extensively.<--culture clash, code review challenge

— Lora Kolodny (@lorakolodny) October 31, 2022
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 03:18 (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

slow update from me, but one thing that a *good* Scala dev can do (note: I am not one) is write a program in a single line of code; what a bad Scala dev does is write extremely verbose Java

TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Friday, 4 November 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

you've got to admit it would be interesting to know which companies he means I mean there is no other way to have that information none

nashwan, Friday, 4 November 2022 23:58 (one year ago) link

its amazing within a week of owning Twitter he's antagonized their main source of revenue AND nearly all their users while also firing half the company

frogbs, Saturday, 5 November 2022 00:06 (one year ago) link

Too bad the entertainment is peaking so early, he's not going to be able to sustain this for long.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 5 November 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link

if I do decide to go out, it’ll be like this pic.twitter.com/WVC8kbJ8yd

— Tendentiousness (@tarintowers) November 5, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 5 November 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link

Weird… reading this thread on the official Twitter desktop app (v12) wondering what might break 1st… then noticing that every tweet in the thread (about how twitter will break) is already broken… showing as [user] and [user] plus double avatar. Sign of things to come?!? pic.twitter.com/PNsUav5k9u

— emmanuel momoh (@emomoh) November 4, 2022

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 5 November 2022 00:24 (one year ago) link

white text on a black background hurts my eyes

― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, November 4, 2022

for me too.

Dan S, Saturday, 5 November 2022 00:46 (one year ago) link

I'm worried that twitter imploding just as the election is happening will be bad

Dan S, Saturday, 5 November 2022 00:46 (one year ago) link

lmao matt

lag∞n, Saturday, 5 November 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link

White text/black background much easier on my eyes than the reverse, especially in the dark/low light.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 5 November 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link

The guy from Nvidia who tweeted that they should replace all the scala with python deleted the tweet and quit his job haha

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 5 November 2022 00:48 (one year ago) link

Threatening advertisers seems bad for your relationship with current advertisers but also seems like a guaranteed way to never get any new advertisers.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 5 November 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

Matt you are a hero

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 5 November 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

Apparently, free speech does not extend to making fun of the king.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 5 November 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link

idk why people think these old photos of him are embarrassing, he looks way more embarrassing now

plax (ico), Saturday, 5 November 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link

He doesn’t think that though

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Saturday, 5 November 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link

matt i'm dying

call all destroyer, Saturday, 5 November 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk as crying clown - I meant actually crying but whatever
https://i.imgur.com/E81zyxq.png

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 5 November 2022 01:16 (one year ago) link

Twitch streamers should be covering this. I want to consume this trash even more passively than refreshing ilx

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 5 November 2022 01:27 (one year ago) link

holy cow this thread

1/ There is some pretty substantial context about Twitter's 2023 revenue and advertisers that I think partly help explains why Musk is really losing it...

And it involves upfront ad sales. Let me explain...

— Angelo Carusone (@GoAngelo) November 5, 2022

frogbs, Saturday, 5 November 2022 01:40 (one year ago) link

That whole context about the way those big ad deals are booked is interesting. Totally makes sense people wouldn't want to commit to Twitter in the middle of the drama. So Elon kind of fucked the financials well before he actually bought it, just by being his mercurial maverick dipshit self.

LOL @ Matt that was heroic.

idk why people think these old photos of him are embarrassing, he looks way more embarrassing now

Right? He's all lumpy now. He looks like a celeriac with hair.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 5 November 2022 04:00 (one year ago) link

this is good https://maxread.substack.com/p/what-does-elon-musk-think-twitter

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 5 November 2022 04:06 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/6JVRAe0.png

frogbs, Saturday, 5 November 2022 05:44 (one year ago) link

More Ed Zitron fun:

https://ez.substack.com/p/billionaire-brain-damage

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Saturday, 5 November 2022 09:30 (one year ago) link

so are the mass layoffs and abuse of remaining labour particularly bad because he fucked up the ad sales with his antics or is it just what he would always do anyway?

your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 5 November 2022 10:06 (one year ago) link

I think he wants to straight-up punish them because he doesn’t respect them. It reminds me of something that Steve Jobs would do only Steve wouldn’t shitpost about it first.

SpaceX runs well because Gwynne Shotwell, despite being 100% Team Musk keeps the place running efficiently. I applied for job there once and got as far as a skype interview but hfs the pressure that everyone there joyfully works under.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 5 November 2022 10:53 (one year ago) link

this is a super-dumb question from someone whose grasp of coding is not much more advanced than GOTO10 DUBDOBDEE IS SKILL but what is this code that everyone is writing all the time: by which i mean i guess is it speculative new projects, greenlit projects, new better faster solutions to old problems, frantic patches to looming disasters, other?

i guess i just find it odd (as someone who works in the CONTENT-O-SPHERE where the endpoint of the work is that the public see the work) that so many ppl are just off in rooms tasked all day with "writing lines of code"

mark s, Saturday, 5 November 2022 11:03 (one year ago) link

10 MODE 2
20 COLOUR RND(15)
30 PRINT "snoball IS SKILL ";
40 GOTO 20

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 5 November 2022 11:07 (one year ago) link

(except mostly in Scala apparently)

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 5 November 2022 11:08 (one year ago) link

> what is this code that everyone is writing all the time

i spent the last week improving user experience and fixing errors in code written in 2017. and reviewing other people's attempts at same. i didn't do any new features this week but there's often that too. there are also times when you are forced to update things due to infrastructure changes or increasingly obsolete hardware.

koogs, Saturday, 5 November 2022 11:34 (one year ago) link

yes mark imagine if you will writing a book that can never be finished

nashwan, Saturday, 5 November 2022 11:47 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fgyz77QX0AAkR1J?format=jpg&name=medium

calzino, Saturday, 5 November 2022 11:58 (one year ago) link

This is basically Cartmanland in reverse

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 5 November 2022 12:06 (one year ago) link

yes mark imagine if you will writing a book that can never be finished

― nashwan, Saturday, 5 November 2022 11:47 (fifty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

rip me

mark s, Saturday, 5 November 2022 12:45 (one year ago) link

i know something about programming and i do wonder what everyones doing at some of these companies, google has according to googling 27k engineers! who knows what theyre all up to all day, on some level google is probably just collecting them because they can

lag∞n, Saturday, 5 November 2022 13:08 (one year ago) link

They're probably just sitting there googling things.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 November 2022 13:11 (one year ago) link

that is how you do programming tbf, you google why doesnt my code work, where did i go wrong in life

lag∞n, Saturday, 5 November 2022 13:15 (one year ago) link

google has a lot of products some of the most used products in the world, they have prob the most extensive infrastructure in the world or at least top two, they have researchers, they make their own programming languages, theyve got frameworks (of course), they do artificial intelligence (not a real thing), theyve prob got some guys who just do math (not programming), idk, my point i dont what they all get up to over there, someone is in charge of the google doodle, maybe a whole team

lag∞n, Saturday, 5 November 2022 13:15 (one year ago) link

That seems like a fun, low pressure programming gig, but idk, maybe after a few years the pressure of coming up with new doodles is intense.

sometimes you have to drink to kill the paranoia (PBKR), Saturday, 5 November 2022 13:33 (one year ago) link

The most recent doodle was about jollof rice, so I guess if you run out of ideas you could just do your lunch.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 5 November 2022 13:42 (one year ago) link

there was an article a while ago about people whos companies had been acquired by google and as part of the deal they have to work for google for a while but then google ends up not really having anything for them to do so they come to work and just like hang out at googles cafes all day

lag∞n, Saturday, 5 November 2022 14:09 (one year ago) link

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Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 5 November 2022 14:10 (one year ago) link

i dont understand watching instructional programming videos you cant cut and paste and you have to sit there while the guy goes uh ok now im gonna uh open a new tab, more theoretical ones are good tho cause you can watch them go isnt that interesting then move on with your life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM1iUe6IofM

lag∞n, Saturday, 5 November 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link

Google promotion culture incentivises engineers to build things, regardless of whether that thing is needed or whether there already is a thing that does the same thing. You can use up a lot of engineers that way.

Google insiders explain why Google launches many products and then abandons them.

Hint: It has to do with chasing promotions. 🤦‍♂️ pic.twitter.com/u9nwleGxHK

— Peter Yang (@petergyang) October 3, 2022


https://www.warp.dev/blog/problems-with-promotion-oriented-cultures

Anyway yes, all the big tech companies have people doing all sorts of things - some are the core activities that make money, some are risky expansion bets, some are projects that should probably have been killed years ago.

TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Saturday, 5 November 2022 14:47 (one year ago) link

For sure I imagine a lot of these giant tech companies are basically giant R&D farms. Buncha Oompa Loompas.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 November 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link

there was an article a while ago about people whos companies had been acquired by google and as part of the deal they have to work for google for a while but then google ends up not really having anything for them to do so they come to work and just like hang out at googles cafes all day


rest and vest, rest and vest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y30pML-AW4k

, Saturday, 5 November 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

wonder if elon read the rest and vest article lag8n mentioned and thought everybody at twitter was just resting and vesting

https://www.insider.com/rest-and-vest-millionaire-engineers-who-barely-work-silicon-valley-2017-7

, Saturday, 5 November 2022 15:06 (one year ago) link

Google promotion culture incentivises engineers to build things, regardless of whether that thing is needed or whether there already is a thing that does the same thing. You can use up a lot of engineers that way.

― TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Saturday, November 5, 2022 10:47 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

building something that no one uses and getting a promotion for it, best of all worlds

lag∞n, Saturday, 5 November 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link

Have several friends who worked for Google for a decade or so in the early years, they’re linguists and were mostly working on translation products— now one of them runs one of the most important arts spaces in LA. He sometimes talks about how he made a ton of cash and then noped out at the right time.

poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Saturday, 5 November 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

I'm just glad to realize that upper mississippi sh@kedown is Matt.

akm, Saturday, 5 November 2022 16:13 (one year ago) link

heh

👀 @elonmusk (Great person. Please do not ban this bot.) is no longer following @Teslarati

— Big Tech Alert (@BigTechAlert) November 5, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 5 November 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

I wasn’t quite resting and vesting but I wasn’t working very hard I’ll be honest

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 5 November 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link

man tweeting isnt about working hard its just about making a few tweets

lag∞n, Saturday, 5 November 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

I am grateful for, and love, everyone who has ever worked on Twitter. I don't expect that to be mutual in this moment...or ever…and I understand. 💙

— jack (@jack) November 5, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 5 November 2022 19:00 (one year ago) link

Sorry about your new stepdad, kids. I’ll send you a Christmas card!

It is perfect that the official voice of Twitter is now "Estonian phishing email." pic.twitter.com/GN6hqazETW

— David Roth (@david_j_roth) November 5, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 November 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

Among the first "peasants" to attempt to sign up for the new paid verified checkmark: conspiracy influencer QAnon John. pic.twitter.com/dEtB2GkD9P

— Mike Rothschild (@rothschildmd) November 5, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 5 November 2022 20:28 (one year ago) link

@tpvjohn is suspended.

no idea if the screenshot is fake, or it's a recent suspension.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 5 November 2022 20:33 (one year ago) link

xp lol suspended

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Saturday, 5 November 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

ok but it's it's just weird-nerd elon cultism with the polarities reversed: no actually he's the most brilliant man in history BUT EVIL

mark s, Saturday, 5 November 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link

apu taking a bullet meme

mark s, Saturday, 5 November 2022 21:31 (one year ago) link

This guy is so fucking clueless, e.g., this doesn’t make any sense to anyone that knows about this stuff:

“ This would need to become a formal Internet standard,”

Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:45 (one year ago) link

It’s a fucking website man. Relax.

Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:46 (one year ago) link

shocked to discover this inherited wealth waster is clueless

dogdick solanke (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:47 (one year ago) link

i didn't even mean to be mean, i've had a couple, this whole thread should be one post that says USELESS CUNT

dogdick solanke (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:48 (one year ago) link

To be fair, if you’d told 1980s anti-apartheid teenage nephew that in 40 years the richest man in the world would be a white South African asshole, it wouldn’t have terribly surprised me.

Nephew? That said “teenage me” when I typed it. Oh well.

lol i like the idea of referring to oneself as nephew

lag∞n, Saturday, 5 November 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link

lol i like the idea of referring to oneself as nephew

lag∞n, Saturday, 5 November 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link

damn is this place breaking too

lag∞n, Saturday, 5 November 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link

Who he?

― Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, November 1, 2012 3:40 AM (ten years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Oh happy days...

Zelda Zonk, Saturday, 5 November 2022 23:04 (one year ago) link

oh that dave troy guy is a far gone conspiracy nut. I read a very long thing he wrote about putin and some spiritual shit and it was like ... ok, I liked robert anton wilson too, but give it a rest.

akm, Saturday, 5 November 2022 23:04 (one year ago) link

also, bluesky is in fact interesting, but I'm not entirely certain how it's different from mastadon.

akm, Saturday, 5 November 2022 23:06 (one year ago) link

damn is this place breaking too

Twitter will have an edit button before ilx does.

Oh dear

Multiple sources and Twitter Blind chats now saying that the company has begun to reach out to some people it laid off yesterday asking them to come back. Whoops! 🥴

— Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton) November 6, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 6 November 2022 02:21 (one year ago) link

how did he know

i truly believe that i will usher in a new era of peace and prosperity when i get every single post on hthis fucking website deleted by 2022

— wint (@dril) August 24, 2017

frogbs, Sunday, 6 November 2022 02:42 (one year ago) link

I think it's dumb that he's throwing around numbers when he doesn't even have a working prototype. It just seems like he's hoping to derail the other project. .

― wk, Wednesday, August 14, 2013 2:15 AM (nine years ago)

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Sunday, 6 November 2022 03:02 (one year ago) link

More from former tweep: They fired EVERYBODY on two of the teams that were working on things they want to launch. https://t.co/C2JtityJHV pic.twitter.com/ZfrIZNAe9n

— Kara Swisher (@karaswisher) November 6, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 6 November 2022 03:34 (one year ago) link

So close. There are actually about eight of those tiny little pieces holding everything up, and yes, all those teams got slashed. https://t.co/vWhjNn5bpY

— Jim Redmond (@jredmond) November 4, 2022

, Sunday, 6 November 2022 10:50 (one year ago) link

Oh dear

Multiple sources and Twitter Blind chats now saying that the company has begun to reach out to some people it laid off yesterday asking them to come back. Whoops! 🥴

— Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton) November 6, 2022

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, November 5, 2022 10:21 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

lmao good work everyone

lag∞n, Sunday, 6 November 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link

always good to demonstarte a new hellish workplace culture and give someone their salary for 3 months before renegotiating their pay.

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 6 November 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link

if I were one of those people I would have to be highly financially incentivised to come back and do a single thing. Hopefully they don't have some clause in their termination contracts (which dictate their last day is actually 60 days from now) that compels them to.

akm, Sunday, 6 November 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

Scoop: all of Musk’s companies use MS Teams for comms, where new channels are private by default.

When software engineers from Tesla, Boring and SpaceX came in to Twitter a week ago, they created Slack channels to communicate amongst themselves.

Several channels were public.

— Gergely Orosz (@GergelyOrosz) November 5, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 6 November 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

Twitter just sent me this tweet as a recommendation via iPhone notification

this is how it appears lol https://t.co/BExIVxHL6x pic.twitter.com/p7BIWpMlGi

— Matt Binder (@MattBinder) November 6, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 6 November 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

Full-scale Hyperloop Testing has begun pic.twitter.com/cDUD1PEfkD

— The Boring Company (@boringcompany) November 5, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 6 November 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link

So we're right on track for the first full-scale failure

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 6 November 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link

someone speeding through a tunnel in a Tesla, checking Twitter on their phone and then crashing and bursting into flames?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 November 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

From Twitter Slack: “sorry to @- everybody on the weekend but I wanted to pass along that we have the opportunity to ask folks that were left off if they will come back. I need to put together names and rationales by 4PM PST Sunday.

— Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton) November 6, 2022

, Sunday, 6 November 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

Is he pulling a reverse Costanza???

frogbs, Sunday, 6 November 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link

He wasn't in the pool

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 November 2022 21:32 (one year ago) link

Just to be clear, he fired the team working on this. https://t.co/56I1uyBIIR

— sillyrobin is a fmr Tweep (@SillyRobin) November 4, 2022


Just to be clear, he *also* fired the team who *built* and *shipped* this. https://t.co/chX1FNdNVV

— sillyrobin is a fmr Tweep (@SillyRobin) November 5, 2022


Just to be clear, he also fired nearly the entire TweetDeck team 🙃 #hattrick https://t.co/v6ByA5o3ct

— sillyrobin is a fmr Tweep (@SillyRobin) November 6, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 6 November 2022 22:02 (one year ago) link

Musk and Twitter reminds of the scene in "Lost in America" where Albert Brooks tries to convince Garry Marshall/the casino to give him his money back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf2q0HemaFs

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 November 2022 22:11 (one year ago) link

It really makes you wonder what Musky's motives are other than "I am messiah"

| (Latham Green), Sunday, 6 November 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link

Messiahs can never fail, they can only be failed.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 6 November 2022 23:14 (one year ago) link

That was a fun week pic.twitter.com/VxfwkwCK0E

— Jacob Rubashkin (@JacobRubashkin) November 6, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 6 November 2022 23:15 (one year ago) link

Lol what a bitch

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 6 November 2022 23:50 (one year ago) link

I'm almost surprised he didn't accidentally sack himself

StanM, Monday, 7 November 2022 00:10 (one year ago) link

Twitter will soon add ability to attach long-form text to tweets, ending absurdity of notepad screenshots

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 5, 2022

what is the point of Twitter if it's not "micro"-blogging?

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 7 November 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link

Apparently this feature was already finished but I’m sure Elon will take credit for it

frogbs, Monday, 7 November 2022 00:33 (one year ago) link

we should all go back to wens

lag∞n, Monday, 7 November 2022 00:35 (one year ago) link

I’m on mastodon now and it’s mostly fine if a bit “GNU/Linux” vibes but the absolute worst thing about it is that you can write 500 characters. I’m not reading that, get serious.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 7 November 2022 00:36 (one year ago) link

there should be a im happy for you or sorry about that button

lag∞n, Monday, 7 November 2022 00:37 (one year ago) link

this is really interesting. food for thought. thanks!

ꙮ (map), Monday, 7 November 2022 00:50 (one year ago) link

Tweets should be limited to 20 characters

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, 7 November 2022 01:33 (one year ago) link

test

— Elon Musk (parody) (@davidmackau) November 7, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 November 2022 01:52 (one year ago) link

teslas when they see a little kid crossing the street: pic.twitter.com/Ssovj7dVuf

— john 🎾 🗸 (@mexicanwilddog) November 7, 2022

, Monday, 7 November 2022 01:55 (one year ago) link

loool

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 7 November 2022 02:01 (one year ago) link

Ahahahaha damn

frogbs, Monday, 7 November 2022 02:27 (one year ago) link

philosophy time

https://i.imgur.com/vFsZTZa.png

lag∞n, Monday, 7 November 2022 03:08 (one year ago) link

jacks mad

these tracking additions when sharing a tweet are a step backwards

nothing needed after the ? pic.twitter.com/v7eCFaAT99

— jack (@jack) November 7, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 7 November 2022 03:11 (one year ago) link

he's on another posting spree right now and its kinda makin me feel like the advertisers aren't gonna come back

frogbs, Monday, 7 November 2022 03:15 (one year ago) link

i will annihilate all spoofs of me . i will take anyone who does spoofs of me or my beloved content to the court of criminal law.

— wint (@dril) March 4, 2014

frogbs, Monday, 7 November 2022 03:24 (one year ago) link

Hi. I’m @elonmusk (THIS IS PARODY) and I’m going to suspend Kathy Griffin for a joke the same day I reinstate Kanye West because I’m an antisemitic, homophobic, broken, un-loved prick (NOT parody).

— Richard Marx (@richardmarx) November 7, 2022

groovypanda, Monday, 7 November 2022 07:29 (one year ago) link

otmarx

Vinnie, Monday, 7 November 2022 08:23 (one year ago) link

why anybody would want to leave during this golden era of comedy is beyond me

dogdick solanke (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 November 2022 09:24 (one year ago) link

We got this one right?

My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 7, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 7 November 2022 11:44 (one year ago) link

(Elon opens the door) Welcome to my house, better than all the other houses, unlike those other houses where you can't fill your hands with shit and throw it. Here you can throw shit wherever you want, because we believe in freedom here. (shit hits his face) Get out of my house.

— A.R. Moxon, Ṽerífíed Duck 🦆 (@JuliusGoat) October 28, 2022

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 7 November 2022 12:53 (one year ago) link

I’ve heard rumors of elon unblocking himself from accounts and its true! I’ve had him blocked and muted for 5 years and now he’s just muted 🥴world’s most cartoonishly pathetic billionaire

— shan horan 🎷 🐛 (@shanhorandraws) November 7, 2022

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Monday, 7 November 2022 12:53 (one year ago) link

Funny how twitter is going to end in a msg board fashion where the mod is like on this mad rampage.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 7 November 2022 13:28 (one year ago) link

this is so funny

lag∞n, Monday, 7 November 2022 13:35 (one year ago) link

its the lowtax way

mark s, Monday, 7 November 2022 13:40 (one year ago) link

obvIously i'm like the trillionth person to make that connection

mark s, Monday, 7 November 2022 13:41 (one year ago) link

lets just say i like the ending

mark s, Monday, 7 November 2022 13:44 (one year ago) link

😭 pic.twitter.com/S04RBdzBs4

— dell cameron (@dellcam) November 6, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 7 November 2022 14:00 (one year ago) link

memes that are also monopoles

mark s, Monday, 7 November 2022 14:11 (one year ago) link

FUD'er? What the fuck is a FUD? Off to google.

Autocomplete says...

Fuddruckers
Fudge
Fud meaning
Fudge recipe
fud in crypto

A-HA!

peace, man, Monday, 7 November 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link

turns out you don't need to build your own bot army when there's already abundant sad nerd resources out there

dogdick solanke (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 November 2022 15:07 (one year ago) link

I love the idea of this idiot burning time and resources just playing whac-a-mole with all the parody accounts that he personally prompted with his stupid policy changes.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 November 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link

sad nerds are only one part of his online army the rest and prob more significant part are people who have a financial interest in his success, theres obvs those who own stock or whatever in tesla or whatever, and then probably there are people who are paid to post as elon fans probably via pr firms that offer that service, i only say probably cause i dont really remember the details but i think theyve been pretty conclusively tracked down

lag∞n, Monday, 7 November 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link

whole thing starts to make more sense if hes got reddit mods and so forth on the payroll, and it worked so well for a long time, the msm obvs loves the story of a genius titan whos trying to save the world, then he was seduced by the posters life, a genuine tragedy

lag∞n, Monday, 7 November 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

citizen kane but he says “pwned bud”

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Monday, 7 November 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Monday, 7 November 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link

lol pic.twitter.com/GJX06GwdcV

— Elon Musk Fondles Dogs (@chaser) November 7, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 7 November 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link

Look, it feels like even posting this is a trap, but yes, this is a picture of a nazi soldier and his carrier pigeons from WWII.https://t.co/yWub0APlFl pic.twitter.com/UPSofU04Jl

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) November 7, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 7 November 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link

My parents can take screenshots and this guy can’t?

If you don’t like Twitter anymore, there is awesome site called Masterbatedone pic.twitter.com/Jl7lpC5oEu

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 7, 2022

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Monday, 7 November 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link

why doesnt he just hire people to write posts for him, masterbatedone is very poorly formed, why does it have an e on the end is he trying to write masturbate(sp) done, masturbatedon while still pretty lame would at lest be recognizable as a joke

lag∞n, Monday, 7 November 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link

Trying to be funny in a foreign language.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 November 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link

the foreign language is being funny

mark s, Monday, 7 November 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

I'm glad he had clothes on in that reflection

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, 7 November 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

Tesla stock still falling btw

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Monday, 7 November 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

down about 50% from its peak which was about a year ago

lag∞n, Monday, 7 November 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

down 5% so far today lol

lag∞n, Monday, 7 November 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

HODL

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, 7 November 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link

Advertisers flocking back for this top level content

What do you call someone who is a master at baiting?

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 7, 2022

groovypanda, Monday, 7 November 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

jfc this just gets more and more dumb with every passing hour

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 November 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

This is why he earns the big bucks

dogdick solanke (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 November 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link

forget 92 hours, he hasn't slept for ten days

mark s, Monday, 7 November 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link

elon's 4D chess is that "Masturbatedon" or "Masterbatedon" might be read as "masturbate don" i.e. elon wants to stroke donald trump... he's heading off that insult before it can even begin! :-)

, Monday, 7 November 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link

he could really plumb some new depths if he came out as kinky and poly

lag∞n, Monday, 7 November 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link

Another fun thing: for years, he was a reply guy in The Onion's mentions.

And then they made fun of him a couple times. And he responded by pivoting to the right-wing satire site that publishes "Elon in a mech suit" fanfic. Watch the shift: pic.twitter.com/UqfkpM7oFW

— Parker Molloy - Subscribe at ReadTPA.com (@ParkerMolloy) November 7, 2022

But yeah, this is what he thinks is the height of comedy: fan-fiction about how cool he is pic.twitter.com/zEdHGQ3PAx

— Parker Molloy - Subscribe at ReadTPA.com (@ParkerMolloy) November 7, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 7 November 2022 17:00 (one year ago) link

He deleted the dirty screen tweet and retweeted a couple of Tesla tweets lol

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Monday, 7 November 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link

cool cool cool

To independent-minded voters:

Shared power curbs the worst excesses of both parties, therefore I recommend voting for a Republican Congress, given that the Presidency is Democratic.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 7, 2022

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 November 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

so Twitter is now officially a mouthpiece for the Republican party?

frogbs, Monday, 7 November 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

It’s a mouthpiece for someone that’s doesn’t treat his bipolar disorder.

It’s interesting. Jack was semi-public about his struggle with manic depression. Ev too. I don’t think Musk has ever spoken publicly about his clear issues.

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 7 November 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

He has! https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/business/elon-musk-tesla-board.html

It’d feel more like a win for the bipolar community if there wasn’t so much … uh, baggage.

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 7 November 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

I'm just trying to picture the absolute uproar if, say, Zuckerberg flat out said everyone should vote for Democrats. All hell would break loose.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 November 2022 17:18 (one year ago) link

Meant to qualify that with if he used his official Facebook platform to do so.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 November 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

“therefore I recommend” is just absolutely killing me

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 7 November 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link

the classic "guy who cannot take an L or log off"

ciderpress, Monday, 7 November 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link

There’s a whole account for this stuff

Elon Musk liked a tweet from Eva Fox 🦊Claudius Nero’s Legion 🐺 https://t.co/oDBwElNolN

— ELON ALERTS (@elon_alerts) November 7, 2022



Literally all the aged memes he tweets are just stuff people tweet at him for attention

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Monday, 7 November 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

This feels like watching Trump's first week in office if he misplaced the keys to the White House and spent three hours on camera looking for them

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, 7 November 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link

He's tanking the site, he's drowning in debt, he's a huge fucking baby, and he reads his mentions.

— Jacob Silverman (@SilvermanJacob) November 7, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 7 November 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

cool cool cool

🐦[To independent-minded voters:

Shared power curbs the worst excesses of both parties, therefore I recommend voting for a Republican Congress, given that the Presidency is Democratic.
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 7, 2022🕸]🐦


I knew he was dumb, but I never thought he could descend even further to “centrist pundit” levels of idiocy.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 7 November 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

lmao he's fucked https://t.co/MEL9lYlqQW

— Ashley Feinberg (@ashleyfeinberg) November 7, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 November 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

someone that’s doesn’t treat his bipolar disorder

certainly has all the earmarks of someone riding their mania straight at a fiery crash into the mountain

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 7 November 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link

maybe he'll make Kanye Chief Product Officer

akm, Monday, 7 November 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link

interesting

re the yang tweet

https://t.co/zUkuY3rsNq pic.twitter.com/JaTJo2CzyE

— Jesse (@RequiemArm) November 7, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 7 November 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link

Oh no, they suspended @danielradcliffe's Twitter account! Wasn't it obvious he was doing a PARODY???

— Al Yankovic (@alyankovic) November 7, 2022

He's such a dummy. By going full goblin and imposing such a strict my way or the highway binary, he's pretty much whittling down the number of people that would pay to associate with him and in turn prop up his ego/clout. He is indeed going to end up in a the same sort of parallel universe as Trump, surrounded by yes men, Scott Baio and Three Doors Down.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 November 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

hatchi matchi

Bullied Loner Plans Office Shooting https://t.co/vi1zjXxjB3 pic.twitter.com/uLVy73blc1

— The Onion (@TheOnion) November 7, 2022

frogbs, Monday, 7 November 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link

They should stick him in the middle with a big flag when the fabled "both sides" he loves so much start unloading on each other.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 November 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

WAIT! Don't go!

Tech insider Casey Newton tweeted Saturday that some Twitter employees are getting called back in after getting sacked Friday. Those who are being asked to return, according to Insider, were key to Twitter’s operations; it's unclear why these individuals were chosen to be laid off in the first place.

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 7 November 2022 20:19 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk is basically what you get if you take Steve Jobs and drain his genius for design, commitment to excellence and ability to bring out the best in people, even better than they themselves thought possible. What you're left with is a destructive, selfish narcissist promoting vaporware.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 7 November 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link

just rebrand it Shitter already

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, 7 November 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link

I mean, it's already in the toilet.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 November 2022 20:39 (one year ago) link

lol there are people suggesting that Elon should fire these people if they refuse to come back. THEY'RE ALREADY FIRED.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, 7 November 2022 20:40 (one year ago) link

xp

Hey, he has been fishing for additional revenue streams and Wacky Packages-style re-skins aren't as dumb as some of the ideas they've been throwing out.

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Monday, 7 November 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link

"it's unclear why these individuals were chosen to be laid off in the first place" yeah duh, because this appears to have been so massive no actual thought was put behind what they were doing.

akm, Monday, 7 November 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

RIFs are often poorly thought through/done without regard to operability even at my company, to the point where they literally laid off half of our project team prior to a live date, which basically made the entire project a big disaster. at a company like Twitter that's run by the equivalent of a gardener whose head was run over by a lawn mower, well...y'know.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, 7 November 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

for SWEs it really does seem to have been lines of code in the last 30-60 days combined with tenure.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 7 November 2022 22:22 (one year ago) link

that's the reporting, and at least in my former org it matches what actually happened.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 7 November 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link

Amazing

Could use a community manager who has grown an amazing online message board, subreddit, or online forum…

work from home, anywhere in the world, as long as you’ve done it before and you have a playbook I can learn from.

Email Ja✧✧✧@calaca✧✧✧.c✧✧ explaining your experience

— @jason (@Jason) November 8, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 02:49 (one year ago) link

haaaaa

lag∞n, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 02:50 (one year ago) link

nominate e.mily

mookieproof, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 02:52 (one year ago) link

Is Philip Greenspun still alive?

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 04:08 (one year ago) link

invocation of greenspun is always my line for OG SHIT. i was as ignorant then as i am now and could never figure out the board's connection to this greenspun, like, is this on some usenet bullshit, what is this? mr. greenspun (didn't know there was one) should definitely end twitter, is what i'm getting to here

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 04:13 (one year ago) link

Philip Greenspun. Born September 28, 1963 (age 59)

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 04:50 (one year ago) link

(post for my) green spun philster

sloop johnnin' skater (geoffreyess), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 05:03 (one year ago) link

Having seen WeChat work in China, this scenario actually makes sense:

There you go. Musk’s plan for Twitter is to copy WeChat. https://t.co/wgcjUc2fOT

— Robert Young Pelton (@RYP__) November 8, 2022

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 12:51 (one year ago) link

legendary greenspun hours: when his dog* had like peed on the server out in the garage that ilx and the all other boards** were housed on, and we had couple of days outage till it dried out or whatever

*(probably no longer with us RIP)
**eg there were two Y2K boards on greenspun bcz there'd been a massive flameward schism over how to interpret the non-arrival of the Y2K end-times, also ask a drunk and iirc de subjectivisten 👋🏼

mark s, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 12:58 (one year ago) link

copy wechat (create x the everything app) except start by paying $4b for the legacy code base of a site for journalists to yell at each other

lag∞n, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link

I feel like a problem with this model is Elon himself. Most people have gotten comfortable with online payment systems, but those are generally controlled by big faceless corporations. We may not like them, but like the banks, we have some level of trust in their institutional competence and stability. But to the degree that Elon is just making Twitter all about him, I think there might be some well-founded reluctance to give This Guy your credit card info and purchase history.

if you use paypal* you already did!

*used paypal 20 years ago

, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 13:40 (one year ago) link

It boggles the mind, but the need for these dudes to broadcast their assholism rather than quietly go about business as secret assholes or rumored assholes is incredible. It's like the all attention is good attention mentality of small children turned up to 11.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 13:41 (one year ago) link

people be wanting attention is how i break it down to an extent

lag∞n, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 13:46 (one year ago) link

the ones who can keep it quiet are the ones i fear more tbh (they're like the fraudsters who never get caught)

the internet tells me there are 3,311 billionaires btw (maybe there's a page somewhere with a number that clicks up or down)

mark s, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 13:48 (one year ago) link

results for billionaires vs results for "real billionaires"

nashwan, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 14:00 (one year ago) link

Tesla dropping another 5% today is it? Down to a new 52 week low?

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link

Giant Tesla recall just announced — 40,000 cars with power steering issues, apparently.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link

all tesla OSs will be upgraded to display twitter as their homepage, car self destructs unless you pay an extra $8 per month

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link

What was Musk's role in PayPal? Was he instrumental in it development or is it more of a Tesla thing where he glommed on to someone else's stuff?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link

the latter iirc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PayPal_Mafia

, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

shouldn't be a surprise but Elon was a notoriously poor developer - a lot of his ex-employees remarked that virtually all the code he wrote had to be rewritten

frogbs, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link

Yeah, but the *ideas* in that code, man, the *ideas*." He's a visionary, not a secretary.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link

Like, check out my code:

$htmrr----
jheeeeeee*#&>>>
exe:--SELF-DRIVING CAR
Kooo>>>2112
******
AV-??/://EXE

Clean that up and you're practically minting money.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

shouldn't be a surprise but Elon was a notoriously poor developer - a lot of his ex-employees remarked that virtually all the code he wrote had to be rewritten

― frogbs, Tuesday, November 8, 2022 10:39 AM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

tbf this is pretty standard you build something that works and eventually if it catches on you hire people who are better than you and also have more time to do a good job

lag∞n, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link

Paying 44 billion to become a mid.

Incredible how small time he is. This is the world's richest person (for now) and he's got such severe poster's brain that he's doing this. https://t.co/iBWX0m4EBW

— Sinan Kose (@TheSinanKose) November 7, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link

Mid range mod

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

Funnily enough LinkedIn might be the only old-ish social media that isn't on fire?

Why couldn’t he buy LinkedIn?

— Prof Jo Barraket 💉💉💉💉💉 (@JBarraket) November 7, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

LinkedIn brain impervious to worms though

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

linkedin is perfect because it can't pretend to be anything other than a corporate shill site you only visit because you have to or because you're psychotic

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

I actually went on there for the first time after signing up like 15 years ago and looked around and, blech.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link

Lol so many bad takes earlier on this thread and people who were buying into his snake oil.

Happy to see how the tide has turned and everyone - except for tsla cult bagholders - can see the emperor has no clothes on.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 17:18 (one year ago) link

i find linkedin incredibly soothing. like porridge.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

linkedin help me break my addiction to twitter - after i limited my twitter usage any time i feel the need to plug in to a stream of updates i'll go to linkedin, read a few posts, and then close the tab (easily, without friction)

linkedin is kinda like methadone for social media

, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

LinkedIn has a particularly deranged vibe, as not only is your boss on there, but everybody who could possibly be your boss and all the batshit influencer/grifter/striver they pay attention to all in the same ecosystem.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

linkedin incredibly depressing to me as I need to use it to look for jobs; but the feed is just post after post of layoffs at the moment.

akm, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

linkedin help me break my addiction to twitter - after i limited my twitter usage any time i feel the need to plug in to a stream of updates i'll go to linkedin, read a few posts, and then close the tab (easily, without friction)

same same

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

i find linkedin incredibly soothing. like porridge.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, November 8, 2022 12:40 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

linkedin help me break my addiction to twitter - after i limited my twitter usage any time i feel the need to plug in to a stream of updates i'll go to linkedin, read a few posts, and then close the tab (easily, without friction)

linkedin is kinda like methadone for social media

― 龜, Tuesday, November 8, 2022 12:47 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lmao gotta check it out

lag∞n, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

i figured most people were like me - on linkedin constantly when job searching and barely ever on it when not

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

this is like i'm reading some strange foreign or alien philosophy. i've not been there since 2014, doubt the time would change my opinion. i was quite actually a diff person then tho, hmmm, do i dare?

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

It's like the all attention is good attention mentality of small children turned up to 11.

Narcissism is a normal stage of development if you’re say 3 years old. Some people never mature emotionally beyond that.

In Elmo’s case it seems to be mixed with the terminally online techbro’s need to be perennially correct on technicalities. Like Trump is a narcissist who can pass as sort of normal if he really has to. I don’t think Elmo can.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

Trump is a narcissist who can pass as sort of normal if he really has to. I

citation needed

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

LinkedIn has become infested with right-wing political posters. Many of them have probably been kicked off other sites.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

LinkedIn will have like, a head of DEI at Google post something innocuous and 1/3 of the replies will be from old white dudes who are like heating repairmen in Nebraska deriding them for being woke.

akm, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

or, someone will post something LGBTQ+ (hey I got married, hey here's my kid) and they'll be blasted to hell by both the previous posters and non-US based software devs (eastern european, middle eastern, south asian) jeering at them or saying "this is in appropriate for a careers website, no one cares about your personal life"

akm, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:33 (one year ago) link

They said I was too socially conscious , so I beat em unconscious

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

at least people stopped sharing shit from Dan Price

akm, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

The problem with his vision of being WeChat America is that we already have a range of entrenched payment portals and Twitter wasn’t popular enough before he made it stupider.

If peak Facebook couldn’t make sending money to people a serious part of their business, Twitter has no chance.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

Wait, people post personal non-work related stuff on LinkedIn? My impression - from the email notifications I get, not from, you know, actually logging in to the site - was that people just posted when they changed jobs or companies or did a training course. Actually all the notifications I've got in the last couple of years have been 'hey do you want to connect with this person you don't know who works at the same company as this person you used to work with several years ago?'. Er, no...

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

I never post. I just like that the timeline is lobotomy level content.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link

This feels like admitting to meeting a partner via online dating when it was still weird, but I actually got my current job via (very well targeted the) recruiter spam on LinkedIn too haha.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link

Trump is a narcissist who can pass as sort of normal if he really has to.

citation needed

I’m not expressing any love for Trump but he seems to have some ability at social manipulation that Elmo lacks. Trump could shitpost effectively on Twitter. Elmo cannot. Trump is a guy bikers could have a beer with. Elmo is not.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link

You're talking about ex-president, Donald J Trump, correct?

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link

Wait, people post personal non-work related stuff on LinkedIn?

yes, some people do. and when that started I admit it was a bit jarring, but I see the point of it, generally speaking, particularly when it's race / gender related. There was also, for a while, quite a spike in posting about personal mental health struggles, perhaps spurred by the pandemic; those seemed to get less of a pushback.

akm, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

Trump telling the Phoenix Hells Angels about his favorite Andrew Lloyd Webber nber would be a sight.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link

all while wiping down counters over and over and refusing to drink a (1) beer

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

Donald could kid some bikers along for a while using his tiny bag of 'regular guy' tricks, but they'd be sick of him in about half an hour.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

xp

Substitute Big Mac for beer. I know there’s plenty of reflexive Trump hate but he was effective at messaging and he has some kind of evil narcissist charisma. Elon is completely without any social appeal that I can see. What’s lefts of his fanbase is entirely maladjusted and overprivileged nerds.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link

xpost They would give him an honorary membership jacket and he would pose on a bike. Then he would claim to be president of the club.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link

And yeah I guess Trump’s handlers were usually wise enough to wheel him off before his 30 minute socially acceptable shelf life is expired.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link

honestly one of the funniest things about Trump is him doing these rallies where people will spend hours listening to the MyPillow guy and some drunk lunatic on the county board, Trump will show up an hour late, and then 30 minutes into his speech people say "fuck it" and start leaving

there was a good John Oliver episode about Infowars, where he talked about the stuff that doesn't go viral - the other 3 hours and 55 minutes of the broadcast, and how incredibly strange and desperate it all was. I wonder if Trump rallies are the same way. there's always one truly insane clip but I have to assume the majority of these 2 hour speeches are just him rambling about random things out of context

frogbs, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link

Trump was so much better at Twitter than Musk is, not close

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:16 (one year ago) link

elon is not a poster and never will be

, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link

yea as a number of people have observed, Trump is a poster, Elon is a reply guy. I hate his guts but Trump can be funny. Elon seems to be incapable of having an original thought. all the stupid memes he's posting are just things he finds when he namesearches himself. he's that kid in middle school who tries to emulate what the popular kids are doing and then gets pissed that nobody gets his anime references.

frogbs, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

Trump's narcissism has a definite goal of self-aggrandizement, enrichment and punishing his enemies. Elon's narcissism is less insecure so his goal is just to exhibit his wonderfulness to the world for its edification and to garner the adulation he deserves.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

Elon would never tweet something as funny as the Diet Coke thing or even a lesser-ranking classic like this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIY2Xh2WYAEmbbg?format=jpg&name=medium

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

otm

frogs is right about Trump, though. reporters looking for particular points to publish as interesting or controversial have finally started saying that he rambled for two hours about not much at all before dropping a couple pointed barbs at whoever

really they should stop that and just say "he spoke and just rambled and a handful of old people fell asleep or left"

Elon's realizing that people are publishing the stupid shit since you can just embed tweets or screenshot them. you can't ramble or post about master baiting or whatever and rely on other people to figure out which posts are the bangers (he posts no bangers)

mh, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:32 (one year ago) link

Aside from the "haters and losers" tweet (maybe the best Tweet ever), Trump's relationship advice to Robert Pattinson was his peak IMO.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link

There was that New Yorker article a few years back that (correctly) likened Trump to a stand-up comic.

Like that of any stadium comic, Trump’s brand was control. He was superficially loose, the wild man who might say anything, yet his off-the-cuff monologues were always being tweaked as he tested catchphrases (“Lock her up!”; “Build the wall!”) for crowd response. On TV and on Twitter, his jokes let him say the unspeakable and get away with it. “I will tell you this, Russia, if you’re listening—I hope you’re able to find the thirty thousand e-mails that are missing,” he told reporters in July, at the last press conference he gave before he was elected. Then he swept his fat palm back and forth, adding a kicker: “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

It was a classically structured joke. There was a rumor at the time that Russia had hacked the D.N.C. At the same time, Hillary Clinton’s e-mails from when she was Secretary of State—which were stored on a private server—were under scrutiny. Take two stories, then combine them: as any late-night writer knows, that’s the go-to algorithm when you’re on deadline. When asked about the remark, on Fox News, Trump said that he was being “sarcastic,” which didn’t make sense. His delivery was deadpan, maybe, but not precisely sarcastic.

...

The Big Lie is a propaganda technique: state false facts so outlandish that they must be true, because who would make up something so crazy? (“I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down.”) But a joke can be another kind of Big Lie, shrunk to look like a toy. It’s the thrill of hyperbole, of treating the extreme as normal, the shock (and the joy) of seeing the normal get violated, fast. “Buh-leeve me, buh-leeve me!” Trump said in his act, again and again. Lying about telling the truth is part of the joke. Saying “This really happened!” creates trust, even if what the audience trusts you to do is to keep on tricking them, like a magician reassuring you that while his other jokes are tricks, this one is magic.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/23/how-jokes-won-the-election

Elon is like a bad aspiring comic at open mic night, who has been told he's funny but who is most certainly not.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

who was that right-wing "meme warrior" who gave a TED talk where he just showed a bunch of really cringey memes? that's what Elon would be like

still think about that ILX post that said something like "Biden telling Trump to shut up on live TV is probably gonna win him the election"

frogbs, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

Rupert Pupkin, ladies and gentlemen.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

LinkedIn has become infested with right-wing political posters. Many of them have probably been kicked off other sites.

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 bookmarkflaglink

From the little I see a lot of the Indian IT guys on LinkedIn are Hindutva. See more of that on there than Indian twitter but I'm sure that's fucked too.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

still think about that ILX post that said something like "Biden telling Trump to shut up on live TV is probably gonna win him the election"

was actually talking about that moment a few days ago, good stuff

sleeve, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/08/elon-musk-sells-at-least-3point95-billion-worth-of-tesla-shares.html

TSLA bagholders are in shambles. I should feel sorry for them but honestly fuck them.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 02:27 (one year ago) link

August 9th lmao

Yes.

In the (hopefully unlikely) event that Twitter forces this deal to close *and* some equity partners don’t come through, it is important to avoid an emergency sale of Tesla stock.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) August 10, 2022

frogbs, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 03:45 (one year ago) link

https://i.ibb.co/X5d1B39/image.png

it's starting

, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link

https://www.theinformation.com/articles/to-succeed-in-musks-twitter-embrace-the-chaos

paywall'd but the lede suggests that crawford is a "the chinese word for 'crisis'" kind of person

, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

tbf if half your company is getting fired there is no doubt room for advancement for people who are willing to be dogs for the new management

lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link

for sure

the most brazen are the "I'm the thought leader now!" type she seems to be aspiring to

the funnier one is "well, you can't _completely_ dispense with managers" and they end up managing something like 30 people after the organization is flattened

mh, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

Seeing quite a few folks in my timeline specifically deleting their accounts today. Is this just because of the new verification thing going live?

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link

who even knows? the migration urge or decision to stop using twitter seems like it's gotten more momentum and it's maybe incrementally building

mh, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link

Didn’t take long for the first blue tick scam to appear. Almost 27,000 retweets on this one. pic.twitter.com/RqLyQ2cPqC

— Angus Duncan (@Angus_Duncan) November 9, 2022

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link

cant believe people are leaving right in the middle of the biggest ever board mod drama lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link

Please note that Twitter will do lots of dumb things in coming months.

We will keep what works & change what doesn’t.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 9, 2022

mh, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

tbf that's pretty much how twitter worked for years, so maybe the glory days are back

there were a bit fewer users then, though lol

mh, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

Did he get rid of “official” the day it launched?

I just killed it

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 9, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

Can’t tell if he’s talking about that one account or the entire feature.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

check around a bit, it's gone

mh, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

amazing, poor Esther

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

I think you can still buy yourself a blue check, right? idk

mh, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link

Tesla shares still falling

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

down down down

mark s, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

the stock is down because Elon is unloading a chunk into the market

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/08/elon-musk-sells-at-least-3point95-billion-worth-of-tesla-shares.html

, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:00 (one year ago) link

is that bad

mark s, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link

Didn’t that happen a week and a half ago?

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link

i also unloaded 3.95 billion worth… of poop

lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:08 (one year ago) link

if you want to short tesla then this is one way to do it

I'm sorry, some clown launched an ETF that was just 7 different short TSLA positions? Short equity, long bear put spreads, short QQQ, long an inverse QQQ ETF, QQQ puts, short ARKK, long an inverse ARK ETF? https://t.co/IOTFSBqQtX

— Quantian (@quantian1) October 31, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link

i like how little sleep he's getting

mark s, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

Source for that, sorry

coming to a realization pic.twitter.com/s6eSJheWpC

— MJ (@amorgus_) November 8, 2022

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

lmao

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

I just listened to Elon Musk on a Twitter Space that was intended for advertising partners. This is what he said at the outset. It's hard to come to any other conclusion that he has little understanding of human communication, or indeed behavior on the platform he owns. pic.twitter.com/ZiYtLNLd0a

— Justin Hendrix (@justinhendrix) November 9, 2022

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:32 (one year ago) link

he really is doing a lowtax

Elon in a Twitter space right now: "If someone tries to impersonate a brand, we will get rid of them and we will keep their $8. And they can keep doing that and we will do it again."

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) November 9, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:35 (one year ago) link

xp

“Now truth can be a somewhat nebulous concept”…it’s like trying to discuss science on ILX, ha!

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:36 (one year ago) link

Dude would be a much more convincing idealist if he weren't such an aggressively shit-posting asshole.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:38 (one year ago) link

I wonder how many people would believe Chairman Mao quotes attributed to Buddha

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link

He’s out of his mind

https://t.co/VWo3MvENej pic.twitter.com/sAvE1DlTrO

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) November 9, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

Lol I ain't giving Twitter access to anything but my shitposts

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link

oh yes please, let me link my bank account to this flaming pile of dog shit that is soon to be even more rampant with grifters and crypto hackers

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

Didn’t that happen a week and a half ago?

― after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, November 9, 2022 2:07 PM (one hour ago)

well if it did, elon would be in violation for not timely reporting it to the SEC (he's been in trouble with the SEC before but not for that)

, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

Musk right now casually walking through his grand payments vision for Twitter:

Users could link their online bank account to Twitter, he says. Then the company will offer "extremely compelling money market account to get extremely high yield on your balance". Add debit cards etc

— Hannah Murphy (@MsHannahMurphy) November 9, 2022

Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?

frogbs, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 20:33 (one year ago) link

would be cool if elon announced twitter was getting into crypto like facebook/libra lol

, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link

The fanboys acting like this is some cunning plan... he didn't need to spend $44bn on Twitter to turn it into Venmobook.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link

he's re-founding Paypal

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link

Elon is unloading a chunk

gross

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 20:58 (one year ago) link

uh oh

Reporter: Do you think Elon Musk is a national security threat and should be investigated?

Biden: [long pause] "I think that Elon Musk’s cooperation and/or technical relationships with other countries is worthy of being looked at..." pic.twitter.com/OTnlsi4GON

— Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) November 9, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 22:10 (one year ago) link

8 is a lucky number in China. And his thing cost $8. DO U SEE.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 23:15 (one year ago) link

lmao at him only knowing PayPal and seeing WeChat as something successful that maybe he could do

mh, Thursday, 10 November 2022 00:26 (one year ago) link

Biden trolling Glenn Greenwald

Twitter is now blocking new accounts from its $8 Twitter Blue verified tier

The rule change is to tackle issue of new accounts being made which are then getting verified and used to impersonate high profile accounts

FIREFIGHTING! 🔥😆https://t.co/3rGkY41wZH pic.twitter.com/cbACpfmhX7

— Matt Navarra (@MattNavarra) November 10, 2022

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Thursday, 10 November 2022 14:06 (one year ago) link

They should really look into why this is happening.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 November 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link

This reminds me of the Web 2.0 days when, breaking from the precedent established by Apple of masking the employees who work on products, companies would let individual designers and engineers, rather than the company, market new features. Essentially Esther is cooked and she doesn’t know it yet.

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 10 November 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link

moving fast breaking shit. if youre a billionaire they let you do it. jk, i just don't have to give a fuck.

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Thursday, 10 November 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link

it does make me hope for the old "gradually, then suddenly" thing

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Thursday, 10 November 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link

According to messages shared in Twitter Slack, Twitter’s CISO, chief privacy office, and chief compliance officer all resigned last night.

An employee says it will be up to engineers to “self-certify compliance with FTC requirements and other laws.”

— Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton) November 10, 2022

groovypanda, Thursday, 10 November 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

In the same message, the employee said Twitter’s current head of Legal, Alex Spiro, said “Elon is willing to take on a huge amount of risk in relation to his company and its users, because ‘Elon puts rockets into space, he’s not afraid of the FTC.’”

peace, man, Thursday, 10 November 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link

was probably heard shouting "so long shitshow!"

https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/10/twitter-lea-kissner-departs/

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 10 November 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link

why tie bank accounts to Twitter instead of just having everyone convert their life savings to dogecoin

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 10 November 2022 16:49 (one year ago) link

Xxp - As I posted in the Twitter thread, Alex Spiro was the defense attorney for Aaron Hernandez.

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Thursday, 10 November 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link

This is the most pathetic man in the world pic.twitter.com/3knHxE6ejQ

— isi baehr-breen (its pronounced ‘izzy’) (@isaiah_bb) November 10, 2022

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link

I imagine the financiers who helped Musk bankroll this by loaning him tens of billions of dollars are feeling sick to their stomachs every single day.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link

the lenders will be bloodied but probably fine. it's musk's buddies who bought equity that are probably nervously tugging their collars.

, Thursday, 10 November 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link

From: Elon Musk [email removed]

Date: Nov 9, 2022 [time stamp removed]

To: Team

Sorry that this is my first email to the whole company but there is no way to sugarcoat the message.

Frankly, the economic picture ahead is dire especially for a company like ours that is so dependent on advertising in a challenging economic climate. Moreover, 70% of our advertising is brand, rather than specific performance, which makes us doubly vulnerable!

That is why the priority over the past ten days has been to develop and launch Twitter Blue Verified subscriptions (huge props to the team!).

Without significant subscription revenue, there is a good chance Twitter will not survive the upcoming economic downturn. We need roughly half of our revenue to be subscription.

Of course, we will still then be significantly reliant on advertising, so I am spending time with our sales & partnerships teams to ensure that Twitter continues to be appealing to advertisers.

This is the Spaces discussion that Robin, Yoel and I hosted today: [Link to Elon Q&A: Advertising & the Future removed]

The road ahead is arduous and will require intense work to succeed. We are also changing Twitter policy such that remote work is no longer allowed unless you have a specific exception. Managers will send the exception lists to me for review and approval.

Starting tomorrow (Thursday), everyone is required to be in the office for a minimum of 40 hours per week. Obviously, if you are physically unable to travel to an office or have a critical personal obligation, then your absence is understandable.

I look forward to working with you to take Twitter to a whole new level. The potential is truly incredible!

Thanks,

Elon

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/10/read-elon-musks-first-email-to-all-twitter-employees.html

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 10 November 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link

Spokesperson for pharmaceutical giant Eli Lilly says they're in communication with Twitter to address the fake-but-verified Eli Lilly tweet that has been up for three hours and has 1,500 retweets and 10,000 likes https://t.co/Ai3lq50YRh pic.twitter.com/zIWDsd8c0B

— Drew Harwell (@drewharwell) November 10, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 10 November 2022 23:26 (one year ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Thursday, 10 November 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link

truly amazing

sleeve, Thursday, 10 November 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link

Seems bad pic.twitter.com/Yw73QtGVMS

— will scarlett (@willscarlett) November 10, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 10 November 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link

I fully expected him to shit the bed. I did not expect him to shit the bed, trip down the stairs while running the soiled sheets to the washing machine only to shit all over the stairs causing him to slip and fall ass first into the furnace where the pilot light ignites an explosion that showers the entire Bay Area in a gigantic shit-storm.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 November 2022 23:36 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhPVhlIWAAAlspE?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Thursday, 10 November 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link

like a thousand onions exploding in the sky at once

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 10 November 2022 23:42 (one year ago) link

How is that Tesla account still up lol

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Thursday, 10 November 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link

I applied one of my accounts for reinstatement cos "Elon's in charge"

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 November 2022 23:49 (one year ago) link

Only cos I wanna impersonate people

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 November 2022 23:50 (one year ago) link

lol map

sleeve, Friday, 11 November 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link

I love how when ppl impersonate Musk they get canned immediately but other peple being maliciously impersonated (like Mueller She Wrote) get no traction at all. Go team.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 11 November 2022 00:02 (one year ago) link

less than two weeks ago

Watching @elonmusk + Co take over Twitter is like watching a business school case study on how to make money on the internet. Amazing that at some level it is so basic. Lesson one: charge your power users what they are willing to pay. 1/3

— Jessica Lessin (@Jessicalessin) October 31, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 11 November 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link

I love how when ppl impersonate Musk they get canned immediately but other peple being maliciously impersonated (like Mueller She Wrote) get no traction at all.

Elon is such a troll himself, he'd be loving this shit if the joke wasn't on him. Doesn't surprise me if they make other people being impersonated a low priority

Vinnie, Friday, 11 November 2022 00:24 (one year ago) link

Mods please rename the thread board "Elon Q&A: Advertising & the Future removed"

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 11 November 2022 01:09 (one year ago) link

We ❤️ apartheid

— AIPAC (@AIPAC_USA) November 11, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 11 November 2022 01:27 (one year ago) link

Elon is such a troll himself, he'd be loving this shit if the joke wasn't on him.

Seems like he is when it isn't!

https://i.imgur.com/d5nGn3b.png

jaymc, Friday, 11 November 2022 01:33 (one year ago) link

can someone just uh make youtube

Musk wants Twitter to take on YouTube. He is tasking employees with making a program to pay creators to post video on Twitter and somehow earn rev share. (Will likely add to his already deep expenses — Musk said the company could have negative cash flow in the billions next year)

— Alex Heath (@alexeheath) November 11, 2022

do it fast

A quote: “I’m a big believer in having just a maniacal sense of urgency. So if you can do it after this meeting, I would do it after this meeting. Just a maniacal sense of urgency. Like, if you want to get stuff done, maniacal sense of urgency. Just go ‘aahh!’ Hardcore!”

— Alex Heath (@alexeheath) November 11, 2022

and make a sharper image too

“I’d love to see ads for gizmos…Even if they’re not that great, I’ll still buy gizmos. I love technology. I’ll see content for gizmos but not an ad or an ability to actually buy the gizmo. So then I have to send it to my assistant like, ‘Please buy this gizmo.’”

— Alex Heath (@alexeheath) November 11, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 11 November 2022 01:36 (one year ago) link

🐦[We ❤️ apartheid
— AIPAC (@AIPAC_USA) November 11, 2022🕸]🐦


dyyyyyyiiiing lmfao

poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Friday, 11 November 2022 01:37 (one year ago) link

Going forward, accounts engaged in parody must include “parody” in their name, not just in bio

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 11, 2022

lol

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 November 2022 02:24 (one year ago) link

“I’m not owned!”

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 11 November 2022 02:28 (one year ago) link

Meanwhile, I just got an alert with a Log4j error … in the iOS app. Everything is fine.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 11 November 2022 02:30 (one year ago) link

is he on coke or did he always talk like this

your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 11 November 2022 02:53 (one year ago) link

his vanity project simpsons episode where they get lisa to call him the world's greatest inventor has aged about as well as south park episodes about global warming

your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 11 November 2022 02:57 (one year ago) link

Star Trek needs to go back and edit out references to him

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 11 November 2022 03:00 (one year ago) link

lol at whenever people bring up "creators"

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 11 November 2022 04:21 (one year ago) link

I wanna joke about this but holy fuck this is all so surreal and deeply fucking hilarious

frogbs, Friday, 11 November 2022 04:33 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/9XGgBxR.jpeg

StanM, Friday, 11 November 2022 04:40 (one year ago) link

BREAKING: A second Tesla has hit the World Trade Center

— Tesla (@TesIaReal) November 10, 2022

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 11 November 2022 05:40 (one year ago) link

italian musk has me in tears xD

corrs unplugged, Friday, 11 November 2022 07:52 (one year ago) link

man sounds so thick when you hear him speak

conrad, Friday, 11 November 2022 10:12 (one year ago) link

This was at the end of another piece I read this morning too.

what a sentence pic.twitter.com/AHeoseVX63

— ian bremmer (@ianbremmer) November 10, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 November 2022 10:13 (one year ago) link

This is the most pathetic man in the world pic.twitter.com/3knHxE6ejQ

— isi baehr-breen (its pronounced ‘izzy’) (@isaiah_bb) November 10, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 November 2022 10:15 (one year ago) link

This is wild.

Musk has learned nothing since he was fired from PayPal. https://t.co/lhvFpGZfR7 pic.twitter.com/5QaF4X7UaU

— Asher Langton (@AsherLangton) November 11, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 November 2022 10:29 (one year ago) link

and then you go to mars

lag∞n, Friday, 11 November 2022 12:24 (one year ago) link

Sailors
Fighting in the dancehalls

Me and the Major on the Moon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 November 2022 12:27 (one year ago) link

still leaning hard on the "elon musk is a standard-issue fraudster" lever here

he's not very bright? lots of fraudsters are wildly dim, ponzi and madoff and the FTX guy all got caught bcz one bad day the money wasn't where they said (or anywhere else), they had no plan B

the smart fraudsters are the ones whose names we never learn

mark s, Friday, 11 November 2022 13:25 (one year ago) link

you keep repeating that line and frankly it's a little suspicious

rob, Friday, 11 November 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link

👀

mark s, Friday, 11 November 2022 14:24 (one year ago) link

Not sure what it would mean for Musk to be a fraudster a la Madoff. Do you mean there's some big accounting fraud lurking inside one or all of his companies?

o. nate, Friday, 11 November 2022 14:26 (one year ago) link

The most amusing thought to me is how Elon Musk made a social media network an overnight success but its Mastodon

| (Latham Green), Friday, 11 November 2022 14:28 (one year ago) link

that has been the #TSLAQ hypothesis for years and years running now xp

, Friday, 11 November 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link

he's only like madoff in that neither of them are very bright, i wasn't arguing that their schemes were similar, #TSLAQ notwithstanding

EM's -- or at least this is what i was responding to -- is the paypal card twitter bank scheme, which he hasn't yet succeeded in setting up

mark s, Friday, 11 November 2022 14:37 (one year ago) link

Many successful companies have turned out to be harboring major accounting fraud. However, the last big wave of accounting scandals was in the early 2000s, and since then regulation has gotten more stringent (e.g. Sarbanes-Oxley). But who knows, maybe we're about due for another wave.

o. nate, Friday, 11 November 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link

crypto has much less stringent regulation plus an on-going series of, well, revelations and disappopintment shall we say

mark s, Friday, 11 November 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link

Well, yes. But despite his occasional boosterism for Dogecoin, Musk doesn't have much to do with crypto, AFAIK.

o. nate, Friday, 11 November 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link

*crowd watching a horrific car crash* everyone loves this car

Usage of Twitter continues to rise. One thing is for sure: it isn’t boring!

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 10, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 11 November 2022 15:41 (one year ago) link

we had a big all company meeting to introduce new ppl and the new head of comms for the agency mentioned in her even her intro speech she found time to mention they are "re-evaluating" the overall twitter strategy

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 November 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link

Closest I can think of is when Czar Alexander II's train derailed in 1888 and killed 23 people, because Alexander was drunkenly demanding the engineer go faster and when the guy explained that's not how trains work Alexander accused him of being a Jewhttps://t.co/ywfMQG95no

— Zack Budryk (@BudrykZack) November 11, 2022

manic pixie dream shatner (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 11 November 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link

Henry Ford attempting to stop World War I with The Peace Ship. He thought he'd travel w celebrities from New York to Europe, meet with heads of state, resolve the conflict.

The mission was based on false documents, no celebrities showed up, and there was an influenza outbreak https://t.co/UN5iPXDntb

— David Grossman (@davidgross_man) November 10, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 11 November 2022 15:56 (one year ago) link

twitters haunted

The rate at which we are finding out incredibly stupid things about this man is unsustainable https://t.co/lOeXmxCQTT pic.twitter.com/VThFpBAKDr

— lauren (@NotABigJerk) November 11, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 11 November 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

spooky stuff

That evening, Twitter hosted a Halloween party called “Trick or Tweet” for employees and their families. Some workers dressed in costume and tried to keep the mood festive. Others cried and hugged one another.

lag∞n, Friday, 11 November 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link

Ghost employees don't need health insurance Elon

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 November 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

the payments stuff with Elon is giving me fucking flashbacks to working for a legal tech company (I was director of engineering for 4 years) and our way overly involved founder/CEO got a whiff of blockchain, which, at the time, I thought had some legitimate uses for building smart contracts and overlap with esign and legal documents, so worth looking into. But he got completely hung up on the cryptocurrency aspect and that became all it was about, to my dismay (this project wound up going nowhere). In the end, every single one of these founding fuckers seem to want to be bankers.

Here's an interesting post along these lines: https://strangematters.coop/web3-vs-fediverse-decentralized-internet/

akm, Friday, 11 November 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link

tbf it is free money

lag∞n, Friday, 11 November 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

but on the other hand some random software company thinking theyre going to be the ones to grab it is very silly

lag∞n, Friday, 11 November 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link

the technology itself is interesting and compelling. the incentivizing aspect of it, which is all anyone cares about, to me, is fraudulent nonsense.

akm, Friday, 11 November 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link

I didnt' upgrade medium so I can't read the Cory Doctrow article on this but this summary is enough: "They recognize, with startling clarity, what Cory Doctorow unpacked earlier this year: whatever the particular web3 project’s service is, it is there to generate a need for a specific crypto-asset in order to drive up its price, and to ensure pay-off for those who invested early."

akm, Friday, 11 November 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

and that, to me, is the shit part of this (and everything related to tech)

akm, Friday, 11 November 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

i guess I'm just saying capitalism is shitty, on reflection

akm, Friday, 11 November 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

you're saying you're not a fan of ponzis?

, Friday, 11 November 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

The most amusing thought to me is how Elon Musk made a social media network an overnight success but its Mastodon

― | (Latham Green), Friday, November 11, 2022 9:28 AM bookmarkflaglink

seems like another case of corporate takeover advice received from the Oracle at Delphi. a teachable case for Business 101.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 11 November 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link

i must admit when i found out you could run computer programs on ethereum i was like thats pretty cool, but ultimately none of this stuff has any real world uses because its too expensive and a huge target for malicious actors and subject to catastrophic bugs that might as well be malicious actors and im sure some other reasons im not thinking of

lag∞n, Friday, 11 November 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link

its more interesting for its not understanding how the world works underlying philosophy, the search for trustless relationships is futile

lag∞n, Friday, 11 November 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

could all have this been avoided by one really meaningful pinky swear

Karl Malone, Friday, 11 November 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

im sure some other reasons im not thinking of

it's hella tacky

rob, Friday, 11 November 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

there is that

lag∞n, Friday, 11 November 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

Talking about schemes..

What a dark, dark, dark day. I'm utterly devastated to report that, with FTX Future Fund folding, the probability of 10^45 digital people coming to exist within the Milky Way galaxy may have just fallen by 0.001%. However bad you think climate change is, THIS IS WAY WORSE. https://t.co/rlGJ8njcgu

— Émile P. Torres 🏳️‍⚧️ (@xriskology) November 11, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 November 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/6tc66ZvIEx

— Wild Geerters (@steinkobbe) November 11, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 November 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

As Twitter pursues the goal of elevating citizen journalism, media elite will try everything to stop that from happening

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 11, 2022

groovypanda, Friday, 11 November 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link

he shouldve bought huffpost

lag∞n, Friday, 11 November 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk will be publicly blaming twitter’s situation on Jews and globalists within days

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 11 November 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

wait. the media elite fired half the staff?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 11 November 2022 18:13 (one year ago) link

I fired ten people

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 November 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

Lmao, looks like the parody greenwald account got the real greenwald account suspended for being an impostor.

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 11 November 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

xps if there is one person it's exhilarating to see burned by nu-Twitter it's Glem Grunwald. Nobody deserves it more.

Liz D. (Eliza D.), Friday, 11 November 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

Scratch that, there are multiple parodies going around and one of them got axed

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 11 November 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

listen - no one got laid off except the ghosts who worked at twitter

On Oct. 30, Mr. Musk received word that the rapid approach could cost millions of dollars more than laying people off with their scheduled bonuses. He agreed to delay, four people said.

But he had a condition. Before paying the bonuses, Mr. Musk insisted on a payroll audit to confirm that Twitter’s employees were “real humans.” He voiced concerns that “ghost employees” who should not receive the money lingered in Twitter’s systems.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 November 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

stupidest possible move theyre just going to haunt you forever now

lag∞n, Friday, 11 November 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link

I think I very rapidly want to improve every aspect of Twitter. Search I know we can improve immediately and in a number of ways. I mean, just this morning, I actually was just looking for Jack [Dorsey] actually. And I typed Jack into the search engine, and “@jack” was not the number one thing. But that should be the number one thing. So then I just had to type “@jack” in directly. If you type j-a-c-k, your number one thing should be Jack Dorsey. I mean, that’s probably what you’re looking for, you know? So I think anything we do to improve any aspect of the system, let’s do it right away.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 11 November 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

sounds like there needs to be a big jack off to determine who's the first result

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 November 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

Mr. Kaiden asked managers to verify that they knew certain employees and could confirm that they were human, according to three people and an internal document seen by The Times.

TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Friday, 11 November 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link

he seems to have implemented a lot of new systems that involve double-verification

Karl Malone, Friday, 11 November 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link

Double-verification is good.

Triples is best.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 November 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

trust, but verify. and verify. and then verify one more time.

Karl Malone, Friday, 11 November 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

can you get so verified that you dont even know who you are anymore (verification horseshoe theory)

lag∞n, Friday, 11 November 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

this has to be intentional, right? there's no way this is well-meaning or some sort of radical business galaxy brain shit; he must be intending to tank the company, though i don't know or care enough to try to discern why.

at the $14.99/month level, yes you can
xp

Karl Malone, Friday, 11 November 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link

need to get some of that 14.99 great price cheap

lag∞n, Friday, 11 November 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

forks he’s just a dumb guy, no galaxy brain about it

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 11 November 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

lag∞n
Posted: November 11, 2022 at 11:24:01 AM
stupidest possible move theyre just going to haunt you forever now


xp i’m just recognizing excellence

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Friday, 11 November 2022 20:17 (one year ago) link

i'm not arguing musk is not dumb, just that this level of dumb seems theatrical to the point of disingenuousness

that feeling is so strong to me, that he’s either incredibly incredibly high or he’s so beyond billion $ that NOTHING MATTERS in a beyond normal rationality level. nobody could be this nonsensically dense

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Friday, 11 November 2022 20:22 (one year ago) link

i have no idea about his drug habits and stuff but the coke thing seems very plausible. especially when he was advising his employees to get more intense and just fire themselves up to work nonstop and embrace the intensity, i mean, lol

Karl Malone, Friday, 11 November 2022 20:24 (one year ago) link

hes def not doing it on purpose but there is some sort of pathological sabotage happening, he wanted to buy twitter because hes obsessed with it, but its a love/hate relationship, its the place where hes most criticized which also makes it the place he most wants to be accepted, he tries desperately to fit in by posting memes and receives more grief in return, he thinks if i just owned this thing i could fix it so it doesnt bother me anymore, so going in he already has an urge to destroy at least some aspect of it, and his emotional neediness is overwhelming any sort of business rationality

lag∞n, Friday, 11 November 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link

i'm just glad this is happening with something essentially useless and he didn't somehow buy five major airlines and now no one can fly anymore

xp ^too long for a tweet. you shld email him

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 11 November 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link

i dont think hes on coke but would be very surprised if hes not a long time abuser of adderall or the like, then once youre on that never sleeping and so forth youre prob gonna need some benzos to deal with the anxiety and even you out a little

lag∞n, Friday, 11 November 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link

said cocktail is not great for impulse control

lag∞n, Friday, 11 November 2022 20:33 (one year ago) link

Mr. Kaiden asked managers to verify that they knew certain employees and could confirm that they were human, according to three people and an internal document seen by The Times.

https://cdn3.whatculture.com/images/2014/09/Blade-Runner-Test.jpg

Lol: Twitter sent an HR email to every laid off employee acknowledging it's late getting people their separation agreements and release of claims. But the company messed up the BCC and it has become a reply-all catastrophe.

— Zoë Schiffer (@ZoeSchiffer) November 11, 2022

(some of the sabotage is probably coming from inside the building but outside his head)

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 11 November 2022 21:20 (one year ago) link

xp Mmmm, boiled dog

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 11 November 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link

If you type j-a-c-k, your number one thing should be Jack Dorsey. I mean, that’s probably what you’re looking for, you know?

He's clearly unaware of film Twitter's "top 5 Nicholson performances"

The self-titled drags (Eazy), Friday, 11 November 2022 21:27 (one year ago) link

xp

Agree that Elon being on the ole Adderall train makes sense. A lot of Trump in him, who also clearly pops (some 80s version of) prescription speed. Have known folks who fuck with it and I think long term abuse def has some brain rotting potential. Most likely because you’re sleeping 3 hours a night.

But, y’know, that’s just one of his problems.

circa1916, Friday, 11 November 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link

xpost Sounds like someone turned the algorithm they had for "jack" off.

StanM, Friday, 11 November 2022 21:37 (one year ago) link

(that works better said out loud btw)

StanM, Friday, 11 November 2022 21:38 (one year ago) link

"The algorithm doesn't have jack" is a bit more straightforward.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 11 November 2022 21:42 (one year ago) link

it is! thx :-)

StanM, Friday, 11 November 2022 21:51 (one year ago) link

xp not really gonna speculate w/r/t uppers other than to observe that twitter really does suddenly seem to have disturbingly strong "working in a restaurant" energy.

New York Review of Wooks (swim), Friday, 11 November 2022 21:52 (one year ago) link

this has to be intentional, right? there's no way this is well-meaning or some sort of radical business galaxy brain shit; he must be intending to tank the company, though i don't know or care enough to try to discern why.

― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Friday, November 11, 2022 3:13 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I had the same moment yesterday! I just can't tell if he's a lord of chaos cackling from his evil lair about destroying a company or if he's some 15-year-old burnout mumbling "yo, what the fuuuuuck" as the consequences of his braindead decisions compound.

peace, man, Saturday, 12 November 2022 11:28 (one year ago) link

lag∞n's expanation is occam's razor on this one: EM enjoys what twitter does when it roasts others, he wanted to tweak it so it didn't also do this to him, so far it has tweaked him, on a raft of pills and no sleeo he is breaking it as he looks for the magic off-switch for the elon-tweaking

to the evident extent he disdains own 1 x trillion reply guys as not the acclaim he deserves as a poaster he does in fact sorta kinda "understand" twitter, reply guys are not it (and he's not a poaster)

mark s, Saturday, 12 November 2022 11:36 (one year ago) link

🤣

mark s, Saturday, 12 November 2022 11:38 (one year ago) link

https://t.co/5vciyaXCwo pic.twitter.com/uU0axDu9BJ

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) November 11, 2022

mark s, Saturday, 12 November 2022 11:42 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/yTgbBWO.png

mark s, Saturday, 12 November 2022 11:42 (one year ago) link

It's a pretty unique situation. Warren Buffett would, I'm guessing, keep a distance from all he invests in.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 12 November 2022 11:42 (one year ago) link

Everyone who left twitter: it's your loss. I'm having a great time.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 12 November 2022 11:43 (one year ago) link

*twittermigration increases*

mark s, Saturday, 12 November 2022 11:50 (one year ago) link

https://maxread.substack.com/p/whats-going-to-happen-to-twitter

, Saturday, 12 November 2022 13:28 (one year ago) link

Max always gets it.

Journalists are overall happier, but the quality of their work is worse because they’re no longer afraid of anonymous accounts spoonerizing their names.

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Saturday, 12 November 2022 13:54 (one year ago) link

rax mead

ciderpress, Saturday, 12 November 2022 13:59 (one year ago) link

The other option is this carries on till Elon Musk collapses of a heart attack.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 12 November 2022 14:01 (one year ago) link

He'll be the first recipient of the Tesla heart implant

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 November 2022 14:05 (one year ago) link

https://media.tenor.com/IQBhkaosCYEAAAAM/heart-fire.gif

mark s, Saturday, 12 November 2022 14:12 (one year ago) link

it's also compatible with yr Tesla vehicle's engine

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 November 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link

Starting to wonder if the financiers of this deal are gonna have a legal case against him for all this

frogbs, Saturday, 12 November 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

prob not worth the trouble theyll just cut their losses and move on

lag∞n, Saturday, 12 November 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

The heart also makes a fart noise when you have an infarction.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 12 November 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link

this fuckin guy

Huh, so @elonmusk was wise to Elizabeth Holmes before @JohnCarreyrou?

That's an interesting claim, given that Musk appeared with Holmes at the McCain Institute in April 2015, just six months before the WSJ's first bombshell story. https://t.co/07SX41xI1w

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) November 12, 2022

Receipts: https://t.co/BjZPFPnoS8https://t.co/PBQe1PrDu2

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) November 12, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 12 November 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link

hes going down posting

Very smart to antagonize a U.S. senator with jurisdiction over your industry the day after his party just secured a majority in his chamber. pic.twitter.com/zP7XrAYZdd

— isi baehr-breen (its pronounced ‘izzy’) (@isaiah_bb) November 13, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 13 November 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link

Lol! keep digging, buddy

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Sunday, 13 November 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

And why does your pp have a mask!?

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 13, 2022

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Sunday, 13 November 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

For a second I thought that was another childish dick joke.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 November 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

Elon gives me very “low information voter” vibe.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 13 November 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link

It’s too perfect pic.twitter.com/9KemlikwTG

— Hannah Rose Woods (@hannahrosewoods) November 13, 2022

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 November 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

i will stop being mean to Elon for $5 million, let's negotiate

Burnt Norton 360 (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 November 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link

elon's mom also told me that

ꙮ (map), Sunday, 13 November 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

cant be bothered to calculate which of her sons this makes elon

(it's igner)

mark s, Sunday, 13 November 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

reminder that Elon Musk and his ex-wife Talulah Riley texted back-and-forth about buying Twitter (before he publicly offered to)...because Babylon Bee got suspended lolhttps://t.co/4Mv3zvqTK7 pic.twitter.com/LKCwCecn1s

— Matt Binder (@MattBinder) November 13, 2022

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Sunday, 13 November 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

"Please do do something to fight woke-ism"

electric wheels spin frantically in elon's head, then burst into flame

cephalopod conflict resolution (cat), Sunday, 13 November 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

Just putting Markey's answer here.

One of your companies is under an FTC consent decree. Auto safety watchdog NHTSA is investigating another for killing people. And you’re spending your time picking fights online. Fix your companies. Or Congress will. https://t.co/lE178gPRoM

— Ed Markey (@SenMarkey) November 13, 2022

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 November 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link

This is gibberish. Someone played a trick on him to get him to tweet this.

Btw, I’d like to apologize for Twitter being super slow in many countries. App is doing >1000 poorly batched RPCs just to render a home timeline!

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 13, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 13 November 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

lol

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Sunday, 13 November 2022 21:25 (one year ago) link

be a real tragedy if SpaceX lost some government contracts

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 13 November 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link

try again:

https://i.imgur.com/EBfsFTT.png

, Monday, 14 November 2022 00:17 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fhe9S5aVUAAIZAg?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 00:48 (one year ago) link

the number of current twitter employees calling their boss out on the companies app sure is something, might say ive never seen anything like it before

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link

Nobody remotely sane would ever work for this guy

frogbs, Monday, 14 November 2022 01:12 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I’d really appreciate it if some clown who has no idea what he’s talking about kicked in the door of my business, threw a wrench into the machinery, and then publicly shat on the work I’ve been doing on it for 6 years. What an asshole.

Also xxxp’s Elon’s love of Babylon Bee says so much about him. That is some of the most inept “humor” writing I’ve ever encountered.

circa1916, Monday, 14 November 2022 01:16 (one year ago) link

Ya it has nothing to do with their politics either they just don’t understand the basic mechanics of humor

frogbs, Monday, 14 November 2022 01:34 (one year ago) link

theres a tweet upthread i think detailing how he was a onion reply guy until they started writing mean things about him and babylon bee was publishing pieces like elon musk builds real life iron man suit

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 01:39 (one year ago) link

The Babylon Bee is a prime example of how conservatives have been determined to incorporate satire into their repertoire the last few years without ever having figured out how it works. It's not just that they're not funny, they're incapable of understanding anyone unlike themselves and thus can't competently poke fun at their enemies.

Chris L, Monday, 14 November 2022 02:40 (one year ago) link

SpaceX just bought a big ad campaign on Twitter for Starlink https://t.co/5xXKoZUE1Z

— CNBC (@CNBC) November 14, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 14 November 2022 02:54 (one year ago) link

xp

Conservatives obv notoriously bad at humor, but wow like REALLY bad at satire. Throw an evangelical bent into the mix and you’re in truly dire territory.

circa1916, Monday, 14 November 2022 02:56 (one year ago) link

uhhh isn't SpaceX massively subsidized by the US government? seems very much not legal to do this

frogbs, Monday, 14 November 2022 02:57 (one year ago) link

elon getting dunked on (proportionately) by the NYT's comedy writer was not an article i expected at the start of 2022
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/11/arts/elon-musk-twitter-parody.html

He’s Michael Scott from “The Office,” whose terrible jokes everyone must if not laugh at, at least put up with. One reason Musk might think he’s hilarious is that every joke he makes gets a glowing response from his vast population of followers. Why? Comedy is subjective. But I bet a few just admire him and want his attention. This can be its own form of cringe humor and mocking it can really bring people together.

But Michael Scott is ultimately well-meaning. And when Musk spreads cruel disinformation about the assaulted husband of Nancy Pelosi, Musk seems less like Scott than the omnipotent kid from “The Twilight Zone” who insists on watching cartoons all day and forces the adults to do the same. Of course, unlike them, we can leave.

jfc

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhiF2koXEAE_d-r?format=png&name=900x900

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link

it's a full time job keeping up with Kyle Rittenhouse's fanmail, but Elon Musk is a devoted CEO

Doctor Casino, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link

lemme ask you guys: is there really nothing to this guy? is it that everything the two companies he founded had accomplished has been in fact the work of underlings that he took credit for and he's just another rich guy whose bluster obscures his stupidity? Or is it that obeisance he has received from mainstream culture, combined with the brain rot that twitter has self-evidently rendered upon him, has slowly and steadily destroyed his ability to focus? It is really really annoying that NYT business section refers to him as the world's riches man at least once in every piece, as if any reader whatsoever at this point doesn't know who he is… the way they use that phrase almost seems like they're about to come every time it's employed…

veronica moser, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I’d really appreciate it if some clown who has no idea what he’s talking about kicked in the door of my business, threw a wrench into the machinery, and then publicly shat on the work I’ve been doing on it for 6 years. What an asshole.

I quit a job several years ago when the CEO forced a CTO on us who did exactly this. It was unbearable. He fired people out from under me, and that was the final straw. He then went on to fire 80% of the engineering team without replacing them, then quit. Stellar six month tenure. It took the company three years to recover.

akm, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

He didn't found Tesla

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 14 November 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

Well he's definitely not a good engineer, and 95% of his ideas are fucking idiotic, and that dates back to the PayPal days. I too am curious what exactly this guy has managed to accomplish that shows him as more than just a loud & incredibly lucky rich guy. I'm not saying this as a hater, though I am a hater. He has such a bad track record when it comes to promising stuff and this stuff has real consequences; see all those poor saps who paid for full self driving 5 years ago. He's got the Trumpy skills - good at drawing attention, throws huge tantrums that make national news, manages to drive an army of simps because he's just as insecure and petty as they are. Everyone seems to be saying "if I had that kind of money I'd just fuck off forever"...well, if he was capable of doing that, he wouldn't be the lightning rod that's attracting everyone's attention right now.

frogbs, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link

He's benefitted a lot from being in the right place at the right time, and also at least projecting the illusion that he is one step ahead of everyone else, a visionary, thus duping people into deferring to his presumed genius. It reminds me of the early '80s, when all these virtuoso keyboard players, like Herbie Hancock or Greg Phillinganes or Jann Hammer or Hans Zimmer or Harold Faltermeyer, started popping up everywhere, playing this rinky-dink synth stuff way below their pay grade, I assume because no one else even knew how to turn the things on so just threw money at them. Like, Foreigner's "Waiting for a Girl Like You" features Thomas Dolby on it, as if no one else could come up with such rudimentary little synth wiggles. Or "Axel F" or hell, "Rockit." Herbie Hancock actually *is* a musical genius, and that song is fun, but it's not exactly a showcase of his abilities.

Anyway, the people that give Musk long-leash support are like the labels throwing money at some '80s synth guy.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link

that was not a direction i expected on this thread

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 14 November 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

i think hes good at business, in that particular move fast a break things way, he didnt found tesla but he was with them early and for sure had a vision for the company that has panned out, tho tbf the core of that vision was the work of the actual founders which is make a cool high performance electric car, until then they had been lil nerdy efficiency vehicles, doing a car startup was considered impossible at the time and succeeding at it was no mean feat, he did a lot of shady scammy stuff along the way for sure and tbf a more honest operator mightve failed, there still might be some very shady stuff going on at telsa who know their success could illusory

he was also very good at doing the media he really understood how to tell a story that would rev them up so to speak haha and also really understood the value in that, he put a lot of work into building his image and it paid off hugely, i doubt telsa wouldve made it without millions of articles calling him tony stark

which! makes this whole twitter situation and just his weirdo persona for the last few years so mystifying, he threw all that hard won good will away, maybe he got over confident or just tired of the whole thing, idk hes def a bit unstable its part of the mix for sure

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link

doing a car startup was considered impossible at the time and succeeding at it was no mean feat, he did a lot of shady scammy stuff along the way for sure and tbf a more honest operator mightve failed, there still might be some very shady stuff going on at telsa who know their success could illusory

it seems to be widely accepted in certain circles that there is, so again it's the whole Trump thing, he's willing to break the law and commit fraud to make it look like everything is constantly going up uP UP. I mean Trump was notoriously one of the worst businessmen in the history of America and he wound up becoming President, so I guess being a scumbag pays off. I mean you can't really talk about Elon's business success without mentioning the billions of dollars the US government gave him, much of which seems to have gone right into his own pocket

frogbs, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

yeah american business is incredibly corrupt, def some parallels with trump, except that musk was actually successful at business, trump did get to be president tho which is pretty nice too

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link

and yeah elon has done well to position himself in front of the government subsidies spigot

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link

free money baby who doesnt like free money

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link

shit like this should really be a jail type situation

In 2015 I decided on a whim to check out Tesla's battery swap station that was earning the company 9 figures in California ZEV credits, and found it wasn't real. Instead Tesla was using diesel generators to charge cars. Here's how this changed my life 🧵

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) May 20, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link

I mean

Part of today will be turning off the “microservices” bloatware. Less than 20% are actually needed for Twitter to work!

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 14, 2022

very much the "nearly all government spending is wasteful, we can easily do away with 90% of it" mentality that idiots like Ted Cruz have

frogbs, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

they should 100% go back to rails, break out the fail whale, lets do this

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link

lol excited for him to just turn off services at random until the site breaks

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 14 November 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link

my friend who is a fast cars and electric engines nerd -- like she can literally talk abt types of battery for hours at a stretch -- says she will never climb into a tesla and that they are ludicrously and unimagineably dangerous. she DETESTS musk since long before all this

stripping out the resilience then outsourcing the risk -- i mean the risk at twitter is that i have to look elsewhere for my "cats with jobs" needs but he is running it the exact same way

mark s, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link

someone should rig him up a board with a bunch of switches he can throw xp

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link

NEW: Twitter has lockdown it’s code base, freezing production changes to Twitter systems until further notice. Exceptions made if Elon explicitly says so, according to an internal email. 1/

— Zoë Schiffer (@ZoeSchiffer) November 14, 2022

lmao it might not last the end of the day

frogbs, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

also idk if it's been mentioned itt but the site nearly broke during every World Cup goal 4 years ago and the 2022 one starts next week so good luck Twitter

frogbs, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link

this is it its happening

https://static1.colliderimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Untitled(1).jpg

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link

what if twitter and crypto fail on the same day does that mean none of it counts, we all just wake up from a dream

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

i feel bad for twitter workers but this is tremendous content

he absolutely had some of his tesla sycophants have some very brief chats with people about stuff they barely understand, who then explained it to him and now he's micro-managing the infra pic.twitter.com/IlDrkPdBvn

— wint32 (@mountain_ghosts) November 14, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link

If I worked there I would be so mad if I were one of the ones that didn’t get laid off

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 14 November 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

btw no one uses the term rpc right, hes just trying to say request

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

Yeah he means requests probably

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 14 November 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link

and the reason he thinks theres a thousand requests for a page load is because he doesnt understand what graphql is doing

i just looked up rpc and based on ten seconds of scanning it seems like its a situation where you make a request that could be fulfilled locally or remotely, which would describe how graphql works

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:23 (one year ago) link

or he does understand how it works he just decided he doesnt like the batching

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

and hes trying make the situation sound much worse than it is to give him an excuse to break twitter, idk lol

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

i mean some of the requests are rpcs as an implementation detail. no one talks like that though.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 14 November 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link

someone told him the word and he loved it

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link

someone told him it was more hardcore than REST

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 14 November 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

tbf rest is not very hardcore, just taking it easy, thats the life

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

Anyway, the people that give Musk long-leash support are like the labels throwing money at some '80s synth guy.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 November 2022 bookmarkflaglink

What

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link

I love his energy

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 14 November 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link

He’s fired

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 14, 2022

, Monday, 14 November 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

what a pos

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/6GykHxlH5r

— Josh Mankiewicz (@JoshMankiewicz) November 13, 2022

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 November 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

tweeting a screenshot of a tumblr post…nature is healing

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 14 November 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

xpost - I 100% buy that Elon had no intention of firing that guy until he saw the tweets suggesting he do so

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 November 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

lol otm

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 14 November 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

oof the replies to his tweets are a new level of dismal

rob, Monday, 14 November 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link

Found another one, Elon! https://t.co/0HjqXZpyr1

— ✨Chicago✨ (@chicago_glenn) November 14, 2022

need a new snigglet for combo of snitch and stan

"team freedom of speech"

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 November 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

He can name her to his new Katch All Rogue Employees Now Squad.

lol

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 November 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

however degraded musk is people rooting for firings in his comments are somehow lower

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link

note the meme signature

@elonmusk pic.twitter.com/qPSBr3PK8j

— Tesla DMV -Washington DC, Maryland, Virginia (@FSDbetaa) November 14, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link

oof

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 November 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

come on, evil young children. turning point usa is where you want to work, not this flameout twitter stuff

Karl Malone, Monday, 14 November 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

Part of today will be turning off the “microservices” bloatware. Less than 20% are actually needed for Twitter to work!

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 14, 2022

this could go extraordinarily poorly

akm, Monday, 14 November 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

seems less funny now.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 14 November 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

Just imagine how much money he would save if he fired everyone, turned it off, and quit. Twitter would go from losing billions to losing nothing.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 November 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link

ah very nice slam dunk

apparently they didnt turn off 2-factor authentication but they DID turn off the service that sends you the 2-factor authentication code. so if you log out and try to log in with an authentication code you simply wont receive one. lol. lmao https://t.co/CoTqonsagG

— zach silberberg (@zachsilberberg) November 14, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

oh, details

“Only 1 factor is necessary, 2 is waste of RPCs and compute”

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 14 November 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

musk stans (god I hate that term) are terrifying, these interactions with twitter engineers who are speaking up are insane. their craven need for a strong authoritarian daddy figure whom you never disagree with is just off the rails.

akm, Monday, 14 November 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

Elon is just demanding random people on his website tell him how it works now pic.twitter.com/k3jEG9DVZz

— worms cited (@christapeterso) November 14, 2022

he's confused about requests again

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 14 November 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 22:43 (one year ago) link

what a maroon

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 14 November 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

Please don't call posting work.

Elon Musk complains about his brutal work schedule: 'I torture myself' https://t.co/z5oBy6thQt pic.twitter.com/7wr0u5Aa7L

— New York Post (@nypost) November 14, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 November 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

c'mon bro, posting is not work, it's what you do when you are procrastinating work

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 November 2022 22:58 (one year ago) link

like I am right now

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 14 November 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link

elon should consider running fewer companies idk

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 23:13 (one year ago) link

Gave Kyle Rittenhouse a reply today…

The self-titled drags (Eazy), Monday, 14 November 2022 23:48 (one year ago) link

Was just coming here to post that

In the mentions of a verified murderer cool pic.twitter.com/e2c1Ohb0D1

— Aaron Stewart-Ahn (@somebadideas) November 14, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 November 2022 23:54 (one year ago) link

I am learning about all the other crap that goes on in social media too

this is actually a really valuable tool that can be used, for instance, to determine whether a tweet was made using a commercial social media management tool or by an individual using the app on their phone. https://t.co/FwCeSZIJEu

— molly conger (@socialistdogmom) November 14, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 November 2022 23:55 (one year ago) link

I'm great at detecting when a tweet was composed by a tool

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 14 November 2022 23:59 (one year ago) link

ayy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

he paid $44bn to be the annoying dumb guy on the message board everyone can't help roasting 24/7

— Jess Harvell (@cheaptrickrules) November 14, 2022

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 01:14 (one year ago) link

someone needs to start a ban elon thread

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 01:17 (one year ago) link

why were any banks willing to loan elon money for this?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 01:39 (one year ago) link

hes one of the richest ppl in the world, they want his business, they didnt realize how bad hed fuck it up

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 01:43 (one year ago) link

waste (of compute) man

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 01:46 (one year ago) link

xp true but expecting any company to pay $1b a year simply to service its debt doesn't seem like a recipe for getting one's money back

that banks are already, after two weeks, floating the idea of selling off that debt at 60 cents on the dollar doesn't speak well of them

mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 01:56 (one year ago) link

They did a big ol whoopsie doodle

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 01:57 (one year ago) link

is there a good podcast episode that gives a rundown of all that has happened? want to drift off to sleep learning about the chaos.

treeship., Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:02 (one year ago) link

i think most large banks have a line item called "fucking around" where anything goes, worth billions

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:38 (one year ago) link

no that's the Finding Out line item

sleeve, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 03:32 (one year ago) link

so when do we start calling these events Elon-gate?

StanM, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 06:11 (one year ago) link

If there’s ever a scandal about me, *please* call it Elongate

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 25, 2021

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 08:07 (one year ago) link

aha, ok, too predictable, got it.

StanM, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 08:17 (one year ago) link

Why did he move so quickly to change things before understanding the company?

treeship., Tuesday, 15 November 2022 12:39 (one year ago) link

idk its genuinely bizarre

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 12:47 (one year ago) link

exact same as when liz truss became prime minister and completely tanked the pound within the first month

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 12:50 (one year ago) link

he's surrounded by yesmen so dense-packed they cause a two-way event horizon

mark s, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 12:56 (one year ago) link

had missed this exchange from the texts via the court case

i don’t think this website will thrive :( pic.twitter.com/RoHU6Vuxq7

— worms cited (@christapeterso) November 15, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 13:02 (one year ago) link

xpost
Or when Trump promised a quick fix to two 70-year old crisis in exchange for a Nobel peace prize
Apparently to the megalomaniac, genius consists in proving that everything is in fact simple, everybody else being dumb and faking it. I also have a hard time understanding the fascination this kind of psychology exerts on the people who want to believe in them (in the megalomaniac). Maybe they're the same at heart ?

Nabozo, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 13:09 (one year ago) link

At least Musk face-planting has only modest repercussions.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 13:20 (one year ago) link

NEW: Employees who have criticized Elon Musk in Twitter’s Slack channels were fired overnight over email.

“We regret to inform you that your employment is terminated immediately,” they’re being told over email. “Your recent behavior has violated company policy.”

— Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton) November 15, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link

Who Said It: Elon Musk or Mr. Burns?

I got 75%

silverfish, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link

67%

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

Employees say it appears that around 20 people have been fired so far for their Slack posts.

— Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton) November 15, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

What a prick

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link

just an absolute shithead

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link

i shd also be fired for my slack posts tbf, luckily i am self-employed

mark s, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtyN1s2XMAATJb6?format=jpg&name=large

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link

tinpot dictator

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link

me: I need the most obscene executive compensation package ever, tied almost entirely to stock price rather than core business metrics, because *checks notes* I am called by prophecy to storm heaven and overthrow God

chair of the board of directors: makes sense, where do I sign? https://t.co/iv9cWqOK2w

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) November 15, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/w3DH2sA.png

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

dammit, i meant that for the twitter thread. it makes no sense here, on the elon musk thread

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

Mr Musk, uninformed all around,
Helmed Twitter & ran it aground.
The tweeting however
Was better than ever
For daily this man was beclowned

— Limericking (@Limericking) November 15, 2022

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

weird how he always seems to be replying to the most vile right wing accounts

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fhn-xM_UUAA2sHR?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

I am blocked by a man named CatTurd2 on the internet, making it considerably harder for me to figure out the business strategy of the richest man in the world. pic.twitter.com/yA7Z8KgUmp

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) November 15, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 18:33 (one year ago) link

sad all the musk fans gloating over these firings when obviously the people knew they were likely to be fired and did not care

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

god it's just full mask off with these people. one day they're celebrating because "free speech is legal again!" and the next they're cheering on the richest man in the world as he fires anyone who dares to correct him

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

stone cold losers

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 18:39 (one year ago) link

Just the same fantasy over and over of the big strong man who will grind their enemies under his boots.

xxxp seriously. lots of tweets from current employees saying how jealous they are of people who got severance. it's free money and a badge on your resume that is neutral to positive.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 18:41 (one year ago) link

Didn't realize so many people watched The Simpsons to empathize with the heroic main character, Mr. Burns.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

weird how he always seems to be replying to the most vile right wing accounts

― lag∞n, Tuesday, November 15, 2022 1:32 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

compendium

If you've been paying attention, you might've noticed that over the past two weeks, Elon Musk basically only fields suggestions and complaints about Twitter from one side of the political spectrum. And a lot of them like spreading rumors of election fraud. https://t.co/dcV0SlQ7Tn

— miley 🐡 (@MilesKlee) November 14, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

That photo of Elon in the cowboy hat is ending me. I am ended. He looks like a cowboy Big and Rich rode to save the horse.

The Bankruptcy of the Planet of the Apes (PBKR), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

Does he still live in a U-Haul storage unit in Texas or whatever?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link

Big and Rich fundamentalism

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link

charlie warzel at the atlantic (of all places lol) is covering this story p well. this (from april) seems prescient

mark s, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link

Welcoming back Ligma & Johnson! pic.twitter.com/LEhXV95Njj

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 15, 2022

groovypanda, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 11:01 (one year ago) link

28th October:

Ligma Johnson had it coming 🍆 💦 pic.twitter.com/CgjrOV5eM2

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 28, 2022

groovypanda, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 11:02 (one year ago) link

Lots of Elon stans claiming this is top level trolling by Musk (re Ligma meme) and that the two were never employees ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Good to see he's got time for this whilst Twitter literally falls apart around him

groovypanda, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 11:32 (one year ago) link

Why has he emojied an ejaculation there?

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 11:36 (one year ago) link

It does track that he shows more interest in annoying fake employees than real ones.

Chris L, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 12:14 (one year ago) link

wld be funny if he had a heart attack and died

Elon Musk has given Twitter staff 2 days to commit to ‘extremely hardcore’ work culture or lose their jobs

‘extremely hardcore’ = ‘long hours at high intensity’

People need to click "yes" in online form by 5pm ET today or leave https://t.co/PTTj2JRHKc

— Matt Navarra (@MattNavarra) November 16, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 12:23 (one year ago) link

what a complete fucking spoon

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 12:25 (one year ago) link

screencapping storing here

https://i.imgur.com/OF8a1nt.png

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 13:01 (one year ago) link

if u click anything at all u end up downloading malware tho it's how he get u xp

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 13:03 (one year ago) link

i do like mark s's link above, the management-style summary seems to slide things together pretty well.

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 13:32 (one year ago) link

irl lol at coinbase's “'rate your coworker' real-time feedback system." i mean, if i rated my co-workers (whom i generally like!) in real-time

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 13:37 (one year ago) link

Here’s the text of the email Musk sent to Twitter staff overnight.

Those who don’t commit to being “extremely hardcore” by 5pm ET today must leave the company. ‼️

Story: https://t.co/expt0d63dH pic.twitter.com/C8VDjRBvk1

— Donie O'Sullivan (@donie) November 16, 2022

, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link

He fundamentally doesn't understand what the company is

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk should just go extra super extremely hardcore himself to make up for all the slackers. Get that guy in a room with a computer, lock the door, and wait for the magic to happen.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 13:55 (one year ago) link

He fundamentally doesn't understand what the a company is

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 13:55 (one year ago) link

l' affaire c'est moi

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link

OnlySycophants

jaymc, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 14:02 (one year ago) link

I'm addicted to the rubber-necking but man, I'm so tired of seeing his big stupid head, is there even *one* pic on the whole net where he looks normal, he's like some sort of man-fish hybrid. I expect to see terrible gasping, slobbering gills all down his neck.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link

I cannot imagine (particularly in this job market) a job that I valued so much but had no actual stake in where I receive that message and say anything other than 'thanx 4 the three months severance bruh'

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link

there are people for whom its harder to quit for instance those on work visas, and theres those who see this as an opportunity for advancement which it certainly is, but yeah all things being equal id be so out of there

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link

Twitter data suggests most of the people buying Twitter Blue are promoting three things: right wing politics, cryptocurrency, and porn. https://t.co/yiXnqX1gw8

— Adam Smith (@adamndsmith) November 16, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 14:46 (one year ago) link

he also made some vague promise about huge stock grants for high performers for whatever thats worth

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 14:46 (one year ago) link

I'll be really disappointed in him if he doesn't bring a giant fork prop into the Twitter lobby today.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 14:50 (one year ago) link

but anyway tech workers and all workers should unionize

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link

he also made some vague promise about huge stock grants for high performers for whatever thats worth

Yeah, that's what I want — stock in Twitter. (Or Tesla, for that matter.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link

what twitter data? from ppl txting the phone# in yr bio? this is a wrd data tecnik

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link

as someone currently unemployed in the tech industry in the bay area, proclamations like Musks kind of terrify me because I hate to think of other companies following suit, even in small ways; after the blunted attempts at compassion and empathy in the workplace during COVID (which IME weren't even followed very well, at least not where I worked), I can see more companies saying 'fuck it.' that said, this turn is basically setting himself up for a raft of discrimination lawsuits in CA so I expect him to cut costs by shifting all engineering to someplace with zero worker protections. Maybe Dubai.

akm, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link

but anyway tech workers and all workers should unionize

― lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 bookmarkflaglink

Wonder what wildcat strike actions would look like here.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link

he also made some vague promise about huge stock grants for high performers for whatever thats worth


feels like the tesla playbook, except tesla was real greenfield territory, first successful EV maker, here you really think you’re gonna eat tiktok’s lunch b/c you put in a payments processor?

, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

'he also made some vague promise about huge stock grants for high performers for whatever thats worth'

it's a private company, there is no stock

akm, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 15:04 (one year ago) link

sure there is

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link

there is the potential for there to be stock, you just won’t be able to do anything with it until elon takes twitter public again.

, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link

Private companies, if they are corporations, do issue stock. It's just not traded on a public exchange.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link

sometimes you can sell private stock or whatever its called

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

Sure, you can sell it unless a shareholder agreement restricts its sale, and if you can find a buyer. Or, you can cash in when the company sells or goes public.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link

if i had twitter stock i would give some to everyone who liked my tweets, there should be a button for that

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link

the rule around this is complicated but basically you can’t sell it for a year after you get it and if you can find a buyer they will be under similar restrictions. there is a pretty big “liquidity discount” vis a vid public stock.

but there are services that will try to match you with a buyer if you own private stock. https://forgeglobal.com/buying-or-selling-private-company-shares/

, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link

musk took down that elephant thing hardcore

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 15:19 (one year ago) link

Good thread on what capitalists like Musk could be attempting in the tech workplace

It's...funny? I guess? to see a capitalist bullish enough to do to tech infrastructure what they've already done to every other kind of infrastructure. For a while the techies had the clout and mystique to hold off the barbarians, but looks like here they fucking come https://t.co/wDRldPh4jO

— a furred tail upon nothingness (@dynamic_proxy) November 14, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

The worry that this is part of a new approach that will spread across the tech industry seems misplaced because it is clear he doesn't know what he's doing, and the result will be wrecking a popular brand and losing lots of money. Not really sure what the argument would be to copy this disaster.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

i feel like twitter itself has to stay up in some useable form for it to function as both model and platform on which the model is being successfully pushed

but i am not a coder(which a furred tail very much is)

xyz, do you have any thoughts from within yr own experience and world (less as twitter's biggest fan and as more bulletins from the class-war front in yr own territory)

mark s, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link

idk I feel like that vulture capitalist approach only really works with companies or sectors in decline, where underlying infrastructure (real estate, supply networks, even just the value of the brand name) is worth more than the business itself. That's mostly not true in tech, which — all the vaporware and starry-eyed bullshit aside — is still full of very profitable companies that make money by making and selling actual goods, either hardware or software.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link

it hadn't actually struck me until @dynamic_proxy said it out loud but of course (some of) the spiteful glee at twtr ppl being fired is rage against what he calls the "tech-professional class" from other professional layers as technies lose their formerly unbiddable heft

mark s, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link

I mean unbiddability survives layoffs, I would jump at the chance to get fired by Twitter or Facebook rn

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link

Sadly I work in the public sector

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link

Elon is currently testifying against a lawsuit that he took way too large a compensation package, this is a long thread but this may even be funnier than the Alex Jones one

Elon: "The consent decree was made under duress. An agreement made under duress, is not valid, as a foundation of law."

"Are you trained as a lawyer?"

"I have some familiarity with the legal system. If you're in enough law suits, you pick up a few things along the way."

/50

— The Chancery Daily (@chancery_daily) November 16, 2022

frogbs, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link

The worry that this is part of a new approach that will spread across the tech industry seems misplaced because it is clear he doesn't know what he's doing, and the result will be wrecking a popular brand and losing lots of money. Not really sure what the argument would be to copy this disaster.

agree, but, I'll be transparent here: I just left a company that hit a financial bump in the road, and the response was that the board ousted the (well liked) CEO, brought back a CEO that had left in disgrace over sexual harassment allegations, and he promptly gutted the company and appears to be positioning it for acquisition at a bargain price over it's struggling competitor, rather than buckle down and fix the issuess that needed fixing. the company was cash flow positive. CEO is a Musk simp, incessantly replying to Musk on twitter. So, I just saw this happen. It made zero sense to me from a financial standpoint, unless they were being dishonest about the finances (which is entirely possible).

akm, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link

I mean unbiddability survives layoffs

for sure and it likely (?) will in this instance also: @dynamic_proxy's argt is that musk's full-on assault on it -- all too familiar to many other "indispensible" layers in plenty of other industries -- is new in this instance, and also as public as it possibly could be really. what (given that it's only a new model in this specific instance) are the conditions for general contagion?

does musk have to succeed at twtr, for example?

mark s, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link

xyz, do you have any thoughts from within yr own experience and world (less as twitter's biggest fan and as more bulletins from the class-war front in yr own territory)

― mark s, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 bookmarkflaglink

There is just a lot of resentment toward a well paid class of people, and I see someone like Musk tapping into that and just hacking at it. IT is said to be a 'career', politicians tell people in deindustrialised areas to 'learn to code'. My feeling is that at some point, this just has to be stopped. Jobs have to suck.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link

I mean coding absolutely does suck and is stupid as hell but it pays very well and it’s impossible to evaluate anyone’s performance

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

When Musk says “high performers” he means “people who cup my balls the way I like when they’re sucking my cock”

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link

coding is fun its the results of coding that suck

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link

A lot of the guys fired publicly by Musk will walk into other jobs no problem. As an industry people are well paid and pretty secure once they are in it. They don't have to perform amazing either, just get a pay rise by going somewhere else.

Musk is only saying/doing what all bosses are thinking.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

the technical people should be good tho its maybe not the best job market right now, if youre a random bizdev guy i dont think youre necessarily just laughing your way to the next job

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link

Musk is only saying/doing what all bosses are thinking

this is key point i think: magazineland passed through this beginning like two decades ago, when VCs started eating up titles -- a similar downgrading of expertise, first slow then quick

it unfolded over a fairly long period -- the voice was bought up by new times media in 2005 after all but the torque supplied by "pivot to video" wasn't until 2015, a notorious complete lie fromfacebook that just stripped the authority of experience out from under those few editors still stubborn enough to back-talk their owners. deadpin's wrecker jim spanfeller is held in justified contempt by a layer of magazine workers who know what they're doing (and defector still seems to thrive) but it's not like he's shunned within the industry at large

mark s, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

yeah I love coding what I don't love is having to say analyze a dozen different microservice I'm unfamiliar with to figure out why X is doing Y

frogbs, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link

love to produce bugs (sowing) hate to debug (reaping)

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link

Pretty much

frogbs, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:00 (one year ago) link

I’d rather be a secretary

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link

But I like money too much at this point

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link

it’s impossible to evaluate anyone’s performance

this is categorically false, cmon.

akm, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

Well, impossible for nontechnical managers, which is the only kind I have

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

If I talk enough I think everyone assumes I’m doing a good job

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

i see, well then, you have a bad org structure, on the other hand, that might work in your favor

akm, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link

you're telling me!

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link

i'm out of work and need a job, hire me as your technical boss, I promise I won't evaluate you on lines of code committed

akm, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

Sadly I lack this authority

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

BREAKING: @elonmusk says he plans to find someone to replace him as acting CEO of Twitter

— Stock Talk Weekly (@stocktalkweekly) November 16, 2022

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link

some personal news:

mark s, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

ehhh not quite so BREAKING really: https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/16/23462668/elon-musk-trial-testimony-twitter-tesla-ceo-technoking

rob, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link

stock comp at private twitter is a solved problem at spacex. they organize private sales twice a year iirc.

the problem from the recipients pov is: it's difficult to value the stock, and even if you assign a high value to it they pay extremely poorly relative to the public tech industry.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

and yes, the least experienced people he's firing earn 300k/year, and the managers and senior staff ics are closer to $1m, and they will get a 20% bump by moving employers, and they will also get severance if they click no. i think he fundamentally misunderstands his bargaining position.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

found out this morning that they hired back literally the worst engineer i worked with at twitter. he wasn't an asshole. just he was incredibly slow and needed constant prodding to do anything, and this was well documented in his perf reviews, which they would have access to. this is what they've been reduced to.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

tip o the cap to genius management

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

first time he's ever been funny and i dont think he meant to be pic.twitter.com/5vYdvePtLo

— barbarism critic (@SxarletRed) November 16, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

I posted this when i herd Elon musk was acquiring twitter wishing him all the best i dont think there is anything to be afraid of cheers pic.twitter.com/t4MVrpi9mz

— gerald stratford (@geraldstratfor3) November 16, 2022

calzino, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 23:36 (one year ago) link

does musk have to succeed at twtr, for example?

Well, he has to pay a billion a year in interest until he does...

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 17 November 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link

does he have more billions than he has years of life expectancy though? it's like citizen Kane

“You’re right. I did lose a million dollars last year. I expect to lose a million dollars this year. I expect to lose a million dollars next year. You know, Mr Thatcher, at the rate of a million dollars a year, I’ll have to close this place in 60 years.”

koogs, Thursday, 17 November 2022 02:27 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk could be chilling in a $100,000,000 mansion right now, getting massaged by 100 women, as a team of private chefs prepares him a 5-star meal! Instead @elonmusk is literally sleeping at Twitter HQ and working his butt off daily to improve the world.

— Matt Wallace (@MattWallace888) November 16, 2022

groovypanda, Thursday, 17 November 2022 07:49 (one year ago) link

Genuinely interested to know how you get massaged by 100 women

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 17 November 2022 07:57 (one year ago) link

This tweet tells a story in fewer words than "For sale: baby shoes. Never worn."

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— Matt Wallace (@MattWallace888) November 17, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 17 November 2022 08:02 (one year ago) link

Metaverse

Genuinely interested to know how you get massaged by 100 women

shifts

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Thursday, 17 November 2022 08:47 (one year ago) link

the issue was does elon have to "succeed at twtr" for his break-it-by-smashing-the-tech-layer model to look better than it looks risky -- and i think "succeed" has a much lower bar in that question (tho he may yet not clear it)

mark s, Thursday, 17 November 2022 10:46 (one year ago) link

Wonder if Musk will eventually end up like this guy, who existence I only heard about last week.

What on earth did I just read.https://t.co/Nar5R0HiMJ

— New Left EViews (@NewLeftEViews) November 16, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 November 2022 13:17 (one year ago) link

SBF seems both smarter and more borked, by his own delusions and by the world catching up with them (slowly then quickly)

i want elon to crash and burn since his japes already have a bodycount but i can also see him wobbling thru to the other end in effect unscathed and never really confronted with a reckoning he understands as being a reckoning

mark s, Thursday, 17 November 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link

Musk's folly here feels a little like say someone obscenely rich who doesn't know anything about coffee bought Starbucks and poured all of their coffee in the street and then told all of the Starbucks employees to double time it on inventing something sorta like coffee (optionally beverage-centric even) but better (maybe a product where, whenever the new owner of Starbucks isn't around, all the consumers of nu-Starbucks should be asking 'where's Poochie?') or they're out on their asses, is what it feels a little like. Just why. What is money when the person with the most of it decides to use his to put himself in the center of a third-rate Marx Brothers rip-off that ends with a static shot of the Groucho stand-in pissing into his own face for twelve solid minutes.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 November 2022 14:06 (one year ago) link

i have to say this post lost me

plax (ico), Thursday, 17 November 2022 14:12 (one year ago) link

Agreed.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 November 2022 14:23 (one year ago) link

that Matt Wallace tweet is so deranged, not just in the implication that women are falling over themselves to get a piece of this freak but also in the idea that people like this are driven by hedonism and not spite. dude is just like Trump, he needs people to tell him what a good little boy he is 24/7

frogbs, Thursday, 17 November 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link

but also that he's cool like poochie

mark s, Thursday, 17 November 2022 14:56 (one year ago) link

which is not actually a trump failing (in new low bar news)

mark s, Thursday, 17 November 2022 14:56 (one year ago) link

where is Poochie tho

49 Percent Jesus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link

Also Musk should be louder, angrier and have access to a time machine

49 Percent Jesus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:17 (one year ago) link

Then again, there must be someone willing to take $300k for being the least experienced. Probably easier to find if they can wfh and live outside the Bay Area, though.

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

Genuinely interested to know how you get massaged by 100 women

shifts

first you need 100 of these

Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/izJW0Vt.png

Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

You might have regrets, but at least you’ll never have this guy’s regrets pic.twitter.com/wh1b3uJohm

— Read Jackson Rising by @CooperationJXN (@JoshuaPHilll) November 16, 2022

manic pixie dream shatner (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 November 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/17/23464351/whatsapp-business-directory-brazil-mexico-indonesia-uk

lol whatsapp is launching a feature that's similar to offering from the one company Elon actually started in the 90s

mh, Thursday, 17 November 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

Can't believe I'm saying this, but if your account got locked in the last hour for retweeting my post about Elon Musk, DM me. (Others have DM'd me directly.) pic.twitter.com/pK4wGyRCpV

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) November 17, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 November 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link

Scoop: I am hearing far fewer than expected devs hit "yes".

Elon sent out an email relaxing remote working from the former draconian policy.

I'm hearing he is having meetings w top engineers to convince them to stay.

Sounds like playing hardball does not work. Ofc it doesn't. https://t.co/VrPEn4IwBG

— Gergely Orosz (@GergelyOrosz) November 17, 2022



Hahahahahahahaha

death generator (lukas), Thursday, 17 November 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link

Maybe the collective outrage over Ticketmaster cancelling the public ticket sales for the Taylor Swift tour will give enough of a pre-World Cup stress test.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 17 November 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link

how can he be so bad at this is so much worse than should be possible

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 November 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link

"From my larger group of 50 people, 10 are staying, 40 are taking the severance. Elon set up meetings with a few who plan to quit."

I don't blame people quitting. They've been offered intimidation, ever-changing policies the last minute, long hours, and an ultimatum.

— Gergely Orosz (@GergelyOrosz) November 17, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 November 2022 20:58 (one year ago) link

Who could have predicted this?

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 17 November 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link

The richest man in the world now has to beg blue-haired nerds to keep submitting pull requests. And they’re just going to be like “you know I’ve been meaning to take a pottery class, it’s time.” Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

death generator (lukas), Thursday, 17 November 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link

crazy that people didnt jump at the chance to take a much worse job than they can get anywhere else

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 November 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link

It's nice to see pampered, overpaid programmers getting to play the victim in a media narrative for once.

o. nate, Thursday, 17 November 2022 21:07 (one year ago) link

Maybe it's just me but it feels like implicitly whittling your workforce down to employees motivated by punishments from daddy isn't the most efficient way to run a company.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 November 2022 21:09 (one year ago) link

And I've got to assume those staying, every last one of them, is readying a resume and looking for other opportunities, because they would be more reckless than Musk not to.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 November 2022 21:09 (one year ago) link

xpost You probably have to create a whole new division to delegate some of those spanking duties to, for a start.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 November 2022 21:10 (one year ago) link

I assume the majority of people who don’t quit will be those with visas

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 17 November 2022 21:12 (one year ago) link

Also may be gambling that a lot of people will get promotions to fill positions left by people who quit. If you're kind of low-level, it could work out well. (Not that I have any idea how the hierarchy of Twitter departments is set up.)

No use getting promoted to be the boss of nobody

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 17 November 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link

idk that sounds pretty good

nashwan, Thursday, 17 November 2022 21:37 (one year ago) link

Well, fair

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 17 November 2022 21:38 (one year ago) link

My whole career game plan has been, and hopefully always will be, to get promoted and compensated as much as is possible without being to boss of anybody.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 17 November 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link

"I fear that in this world one is reduced to being either hammer or anvil; lucky the man who escapes these alternatives!"

death generator (lukas), Thursday, 17 November 2022 21:49 (one year ago) link

Also may be gambling that a lot of people will get promotions to fill positions left by people who quit. If you're kind of low-level, it could work out well. (Not that I have any idea how the hierarchy of Twitter departments is set up.)

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, November 17, 2022 4:23 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

IC engineers don't get promoted just because someone more senior than them gets fired. managers sometimes do, and i know a couple of managers who stuck around hoping for exactly that. they both got fired in the first wave though haha.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 November 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link

I assume the majority of people who don’t quit will be those with visas

― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, November 17, 2022 4:12 PM (forty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i know four people still on the payroll. three are on visas and one is on paternity leave.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 November 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link

It's nice to see pampered, overpaid programmers getting to play the victim in a media narrative for once.

― o. nate, Thursday, November 17, 2022 4:07 PM (forty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

its pretty funny that musk thought he could do some drill sergeant routine, pure delusion, pampered people are very resistant to not being pampered anymore

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 November 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link

i dont particularly know what goes on as far as management in musks other companies but purely speculating both cars and rockets seem like industries that people might have a particular interest in working in, like video games or movies, and therefore are willing to work more hardcore, but making a app its cool people are interested in and may even be passionate about the technology aspect but no ones like its just so amazing to be around websites you know

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:02 (one year ago) link

up until recently, if you wanted to work on rockets or greenfield EV car design, there were relatively few places to go

but if you're a software engineer in silicon valley, there are and have been literally a million places to go?

(i think i saw this point being made itt but can't find it, apologies for plagiarizing)

, Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:13 (one year ago) link

i think its amazing to be around websites. but im not an engineer

ciderpress, Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:14 (one year ago) link

posters love to be around websites

ciderpress, Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link

xp to myself - meant to say 'clean sheet' not 'greenfield'

, Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:20 (one year ago) link

i know four people still on the payroll. three are on visas and one is on paternity leave.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, November 17, 2022 4:58 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lmao one of them quit today.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:22 (one year ago) link

for a while people were genuinely interested in apps, telling you their app ideas, asking if you know how to build that

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link

never know, the next one could be a million dollar idea

mh, Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

i dont particularly know what goes on as far as management in musks other companies but purely speculating both cars and rockets seem like industries that people might have a particular interest in working in, like video games or movies, and therefore are willing to work more hardcore, but making a app its cool people are interested in and may even be passionate about the technology aspect but no ones like its just so amazing to be around websites you know

― lag∞n, Thursday, November 17, 2022 5:02 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think ironically twitter actually is a place where certain kinds of engineers go. it has a rep as being cushy of course but i'm not talking about that. it also has a really strong track record of being a place you can do foundational and extremely influential stuff, without needing to put up with organizational complexity on the scale of google/facebook. they don't care about twitter.com per se, but twitter.com has more interesting engineering problems than like doordash or even uber.

good thread of examples of this

One of the things that I think is sad about the decimation of Twitter eng is that Twitter was doing a lot of interesting (and high ROI) engineering work that, at younger companies, is mostly outsourced to "the cloud" or open source projects

A few examples off the top of my head: https://t.co/zAMF3oW5rL

— Dan Luu (@danluu) November 16, 2022

.

these people actually like the idea of "hardcore" (not in those words, they're adults) and should be his constituency. but it turns out that spending a month shitting on everything they've ever done (while being factually wrong about literally every detail) is not a winning strategy.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:27 (one year ago) link

You can be a software engineer essentially anywhere including like banks, grocery stores, universities, companies you haven’t heard of that make ERP systems for hyperspecific sectors…

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:29 (one year ago) link

Personally I think scratching layers off of legacy code and fixing up bad databases and solving business logic problems for your colleagues is interesting

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link

their idea of hardcore (solving difficult problems) is prob different than musks (sleeping at the office) xp

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:31 (one year ago) link

I feel like a lot of the foundational things Uber, etc. had to do are now almost boilerplate. I was at a conference talk where "here's how you'd use this backend system to query the nearest ten cars from a geospatial point" was a low-code example. The backends caught up and have absorbed a lot of the system load that Uber would have had to design around

imo Uber/Lyft still had some things to work on some years ago, but their grasp exceeded their reach and they started building systems to detect cops and feds attempting to illegally use their cars and started building shit to explicitly flaunt regulations, etc. that would have been a waste of time if their basics weren't already there

mh, Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:32 (one year ago) link

twitter is just endless "what should we show users and get them to click on ads and also stay on the site" followed by a zillion thought experiments and re-engineering, but caek probably can speak to that

mh, Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:33 (one year ago) link

the problem is Uber and Lyft cannot make money because their business model was using VC cash to subsidize cab rides and bribe city councils to exempt them from regulations, so the engineering problems aren't really relevant

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:33 (one year ago) link

anyway it sounds like essentially everyone is quitting

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link

xxxp i know nothing about how they build the product tbh.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link

xxp unravelling patterns of human interest to keep them scrolling and posting, not just getting someone a ride

mh, Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link

xp you were the thought experiment department I thought

mh, Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link

if you're a serious infra person and you like things like fixing bugs in the kernel networking stack and improving the throughput of a very large system then you can see how twitter (along with relatively few other places) might be one of your only options. i guess the difference is you have like 5 options and 4 of them aren't run by a maniac and pay better, but if you like space stuff you have 2 options and they're both run by a maniac.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:35 (one year ago) link

i dont particularly know what goes on as far as management in musks other companies but purely speculating both cars and rockets seem like industries that people might have a particular interest in working in, like video games or movies, and therefore are willing to work more hardcore, but making a app its cool people are interested in and may even be passionate about the technology aspect but no ones like its just so amazing to be around websites you know

― lag∞n, Thursday, November 17, 2022 4:02 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

one of my biggest regrets professionally is that i didn't really see how incredibly fucked up labor issues were in the game industry, we were working our own crunch on the latest issue and website updates constantly and everything was so centered around that being the natural state of things. i was just ignorant as anyone and the culture and discourse has (thankfully) gotten much more critical of the game industry in the past 5 or so years. we definitely failed on every level back then.

all that is to say that i met so many dictatorial nutcases who ran studios and everything about elon musk reminds me of them

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:35 (one year ago) link

on the bright side, I don't think any huge open source projects that are in wide use have twitter as the primary contributor so we won't end up with software forks

mh, Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:41 (one year ago) link

reading the twitter kernel guys thread talking about how newer companies are all cloud bois was left wondering once you get big isnt that just so expensive, wouldnt it be worth it to roll yr own at some point

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:49 (one year ago) link

oh yeah, but even then you need someone else's cloud for some stuff even if it's just image caches

mh, Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:52 (one year ago) link

You can be a software engineer essentially anywhere including like banks, grocery stores, universities, companies you haven’t heard of that make ERP systems for hyperspecific sectors…

HI DERE. Perfectly happy to live and work in the software suburbs.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:52 (one year ago) link

I am going to miss this place. We built something special here, and I do not expect to see its like ever again. I have worked here at Twitter for over 11 years. Back in July, I was the 27th most tenured employee at the company. Now I'm the 15th. I am not going to click "yes" pic.twitter.com/IqVrFrUiaB

— THISWILLWORK (@THISWILLWORK) November 17, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 November 2022 23:15 (one year ago) link

wouldnt it be worth it to roll yr own at some point

That's exactly what Basecamp (the inventors of Rails) have decided to do.

Vast Halo, Thursday, 17 November 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link

Twitter’s Slack currently has hundreds of employees giving the 🫡 emoji, meaning they decided to not stay for Musk’s “Twitter 2.0” cultural reset. The company had just under 3,000 employees remaining before the deadline to say “yes” or not hit 20 min ago.

— Alex Heath (@alexeheath) November 17, 2022

he shouldve bought the company before the salute emoji was introduced

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 November 2022 23:21 (one year ago) link

there were 7000 when he took over fwiw.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 November 2022 23:23 (one year ago) link

fn crazy

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 November 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

reading the twitter kernel guys thread talking about how newer companies are all cloud bois was left wondering once you get big isnt that just so expensive, wouldnt it be worth it to roll yr own at some point

― lag∞n, Thursday, November 17, 2022 5:49 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

almost all of twitter is in private datacenters for this reason among others. ml experimentation (not serving) and data science stuff is the big (and expensive exception).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 November 2022 23:26 (one year ago) link

even tho twitter workers are for the most part still in good shape compared to most people that does just suck to have a job that you like and some billionaire freak comes along and ruins it

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 November 2022 23:30 (one year ago) link

it does.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 November 2022 23:33 (one year ago) link

someone shd send that mfr to mars

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 November 2022 23:34 (one year ago) link

didn’t half of basecamp quit bc the founder was like no politics allowed

, Thursday, 17 November 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link

yeah lol that was a good scandal that dude had been acting like his shit didnt stink for literally ever

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 November 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link

It sucks to have someone devalue your work and piss all over a place you've invested time and energy in whether you're a line cook or tweep (or an alt-weekly editor, let's say). Even if you have good prospects, leaving a job is always disruptive and when it's accompanied by feeling like your own work and the whole enterprise you were part of is being treated like shit, it's even worse.

the good work continues

NEW: Twitter just alerted employees that effective immediately, all office buildings are temporarily closed and badge access is suspended. No details given as to why.

— Zoë Schiffer (@ZoeSchiffer) November 17, 2022

We're hearing this is because Elon Musk and his team are terrified employees are going to sabotage the company. Also, they're still trying to figure out which Twitter workers they need to cut access for.

— Zoë Schiffer (@ZoeSchiffer) November 17, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 November 2022 23:55 (one year ago) link

the emperor temporarily realizes he has no clothes

Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 November 2022 23:56 (one year ago) link

the nice thing is, elon doesn't need to hire anyone to replace the engineers and devs, he can continue to rely on free unsolicited advice from his friends on twitter!

Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 November 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

lol they dont even know who works there anymore

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link

does this mean nobody is actually running the site right now?

mods are asleep change yr dn to elon sucks

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link

elon already entering his howard hughes phase

, Friday, 18 November 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link

he has truly disrupted the social media industry

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 November 2022 00:05 (one year ago) link

Hey how much to acquire ILX by the way

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 18 November 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link

Pack of chewing gum for a start.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 November 2022 00:19 (one year ago) link

next communication from twitter: as a favor, please do not watch or post about world cup

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 November 2022 00:21 (one year ago) link

this is all a bit on the nose tbqh

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 18 November 2022 00:21 (one year ago) link

I feel bad saying this but honestly this is the funniest thing to ever happen

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 18 November 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

richest guy in the world spent tens of billions of dollars to just get mercilessly bullied on his favorite website before destroying it within weeks

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 18 November 2022 00:24 (one year ago) link

its incredible content

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 00:24 (one year ago) link

This all happening at the same time as FTX and John Fetterman going to the senate is just too much

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 18 November 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link

!!! “I know of six critical systems (like ‘serving tweets’ levels of critical) which no longer have any engineers," "There is no longer even a skeleton crew manning the system. It will continue to coast until it runs into something, and then it will stop.”https://t.co/5lmWQHX2ft

— Nitasha Tiku (@nitashatiku) November 18, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 18 November 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link

Legitimately stunned this is happening so fast

frogbs, Friday, 18 November 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link

xxyyzz mentioned a wildcat strike and i guess this is that, but the strikers get three months pay in advance?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 18 November 2022 00:28 (one year ago) link

As we’re all very aware, folks on visas are stuck, so thats who makes up most of the roughly 25% (or less than 1,000….) expected to stay. The actual impact is not yet known — there have been no internal comms about what comes next. We’re nearly 2 hours post deadline.

— Kylie Robison (@kyliebytes) November 17, 2022

doesn't seem like enough people tbqh

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 18 November 2022 00:44 (one year ago) link

sorry wrong tweet in the thread, meant this one

What I’m hearing from Twitter employees; It looks like roughly 75% of the remaining 3,700ish Twitter employees have not opted to stay after the “hardcore” email.

Even though the deadline has passed, everyone still has access to their systems.

— Kylie Robison (@kyliebytes) November 17, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 18 November 2022 00:44 (one year ago) link

first goal in the world cup is when it ends

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 18 November 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link

The most abominable villain in this story is the US immigration system, in the end

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 18 November 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

i kind of want to know how Ligma & Johnson are doing. rooting for those two

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 November 2022 00:52 (one year ago) link

if twitter dies what's Elon gonna post on

symsymsym, Friday, 18 November 2022 00:57 (one year ago) link

Good question

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 18 November 2022 01:00 (one year ago) link

Post it notes on the toilet

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 November 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link

he could buy truth social and try again

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 November 2022 01:04 (one year ago) link

first goal in the world cup is when it ends

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, November 17, 2022 7:47 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

beautiful

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 01:10 (one year ago) link

I haven’t seen an update on the sale of the debt in a couple days I wonder how that’s going

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 18 November 2022 01:15 (one year ago) link

I was laid off from Twitter this afternoon. I was in charge of managing badge access to Twitter offices.

Elon just called me and asked if I could come back to help them regain access to HQ as they shut off all badges and accidentally locked themselves out.

— Alex Cohen (@anothercohen) November 18, 2022

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 18 November 2022 02:34 (one year ago) link

There's like 50 people stuck in a Twitter parking garage in Sunnyvale right now - the barrier arm won't go up because their badges are disabled. Someone in facilities management is supposedly bringing them a sawzall.

— Specifically Performing Steiner (@TweetOfSteiner) November 18, 2022

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 18 November 2022 02:35 (one year ago) link

Probably faje

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 18 November 2022 02:41 (one year ago) link

Fake

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 18 November 2022 02:41 (one year ago) link

The Alex Cohen one definitely is, but dude can pick his targets.

I was let go by FTX today. I was in charge of all of Sam's personal finances. This was my first job in finance and living in the Bahamas.

I'm sad but excited to share that come January, I will be starting a new role at ARK Invest, leading our early stage web3 investments!

— Alex Cohen (@anothercohen) November 10, 2022

People on Twitter spreading fake news about Twitter's collapse and Twitter can't do anything about it because of Twitter's collapse.

> first goal in the world cup is when it ends

first game is qatar vs ecuador on Sunday. I'm not sure that'll have enough weight tbh

koogs, Friday, 18 November 2022 02:56 (one year ago) link

I feel bad saying this but honestly this is the funniest thing to ever happen

― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, November 17, 2022 7:23 PM bookmarkflaglink

richest guy in the world spent tens of billions of dollars to just get mercilessly bullied on his favorite website before destroying it within weeks

― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, November 17, 2022 7:24 PM bookmarkflaglink

lmao @ these posts

Doctor Casino, Friday, 18 November 2022 03:03 (one year ago) link

I (and probably thousands of other people) already made this joke weeks ago, Elon.

How do you make a small fortune in social media?

Start out with a large one.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 18, 2022

i'm not owned

ciderpress, Friday, 18 November 2022 03:32 (one year ago) link

Actual footage of Elon arriving for the final moments of Twitter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSJGEn4FDys

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 November 2022 03:36 (one year ago) link

GLADLY accepting my severance deal from twitter today. I seriously can’t take working like this anymore pic.twitter.com/BwvlBRXCAL

— neopet sematary (@glitchdagger) November 16, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 November 2022 08:45 (one year ago) link

Lol

Elon really just tweeted this. Jesus pic.twitter.com/jOHrA2NLLs

— Read Jackson Rising by @CooperationJXN (@JoshuaPHilll) November 18, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 November 2022 10:30 (one year ago) link

More lolz

listen, if we want cars that catch fire and run over children we have to just live with the catastrophic mismanagement of a social media platform https://t.co/wEmFeHH9OV

— b-boy bouiebaisse (@jbouie) November 17, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 November 2022 10:53 (one year ago) link

The greatest emoji ever.

A bunch of Twitter engineers who were still at the company as of this morning, people I've known and respected for years, just called Elon's bluff, took the offer of severance, and said 🫡

— Chad Loder - @chadlo✧✧✧@kolekt✧✧✧.soc✧✧✧ (@chadloder) November 17, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 November 2022 11:05 (one year ago) link

Salute emoji suggests to me 'yes sir, right away sir' rather than 'fuck of Musk' as it seems to be being used

49 Percent Jesus (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 18 November 2022 11:13 (one year ago) link

off

49 Percent Jesus (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 18 November 2022 11:13 (one year ago) link

Fuck of Musk and Eye of Toad

49 Percent Jesus (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 18 November 2022 11:13 (one year ago) link

Or someone standing at 90 degrees to a nazi salute lol

49 Percent Jesus (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 18 November 2022 11:14 (one year ago) link

salut

calzino, Friday, 18 November 2022 11:15 (one year ago) link

It's used as a fuck off emoji whenever I've seen it.

It's a way of saying fuck off to people you cannot say fuck off to, is how I see it.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 November 2022 11:21 (one year ago) link

that puts it in a much better light, never seen it before

calzino, Friday, 18 November 2022 11:30 (one year ago) link

oh my god pic.twitter.com/F9S62VEuJP

— cait (@punished_cait) November 18, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 November 2022 11:32 (one year ago) link

Twitter's San Francisco headquarters has gone hardcore tonight. #TwitterTakeover pic.twitter.com/DoG5pDD4AD

— Muskrat McRatfu*ker needs to resign as CEO  (@christoq) November 18, 2022

groovypanda, Friday, 18 November 2022 13:30 (one year ago) link

put this on Elon's gravestone

https://i.imgur.com/X4lIrq2.png

frogbs, Friday, 18 November 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

Just had a look at this article on the FTX founder and the drugs he might've been taking...

https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/the-psychopharmacology-of-the-ftx?utm_source=post-email-title

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 November 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link

He has lost it pic.twitter.com/YPyxj5Ep6b

— Men's Rea (@InternetHippo) November 18, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

"In case there's anyone left who doesn't hate me ..."

it must be really frustrating to still be working there, in the middle of a work crisis, after clicking a button that indicated that you were hardcore and that Outstanding was the only acceptable performance, minimum of 96/7 work hours, and then you see elon replying to ticketmaster about taylor swift

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

I rode in a friend's tesla recently and it felt weirdly already dated, very car of the future of the past.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 18 November 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

I was in the back of my coworker's yesterday and, having moved his kid's car seat, I ended up sitting in a pile of cheez-its

mh, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

its so funny how he keeps doing that thing where you use jargon to make yourself sound more serious but youre obviously just a poser and everyone hates you

NEW: Email from Elon to the engineering team: "Anyone who can actually write software, please report to the 10th floor at 2pm today. Before doing so, please email me a bullet point summary of what your code commits have achieved in the past 6 months" 1/

— Zoë Schiffer (@ZoeSchiffer) November 18, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

lol that’s so deranged what a fucking dumbass

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 18 November 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

and then he asks for screenshots lmao if youre going to go out of your way to mention the implementation detail of committing you should at least commit yourself to using that system to track the code youre interested in which not coincidentally is the thing its for

Elon Musk is also asking for up 10 screenshots of the "most salient lines of code" from Twitter engineers 2/

— Zoë Schiffer (@ZoeSchiffer) November 18, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

please fax me a drawing of the best code you have ever written

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link

Imagine having to interview for your job every day

someone in the thread pointed out these emails are just a way of him trying to find out who leaks things to the press. weird but maybe possible?

also, new tweets seem to be loading way slower than before. 5s or more

fpsa, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

he seems to make a habit of making people around him repeatedly justify their qualifications for being there, which miiiiight be a bit of projection on his part, maybe something that a forbidden recess of his mind keeps trying to bring up

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

if i were him and committed to fake cinematic boss bullshit i would at least ask like what ideas of yours have made twitter a million dollars or more, thats actually an interesting thought experiment, and peoples answers would probably at least give you some insight into how they work and think, but some screenshots of code who gives a shit its totally meaningless, ask them how much code theyve deleted its a much more useful activity

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link

"Space Karen" on that streaming projection thing is killing me

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

^ otm deleting code is the most critical software engineering function

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 18 November 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

The best code is no code at all.

Meet Me in the Z'Ha'Dum (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 November 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

Are we sure the plaintiff in the Tesla lawsuit case, Richard Tornetta, is not: ㄥ7ㄥ7ㄥ7 Tonetta777 ㄥㄥㄥɐʇʇǝuoʇ Tonetta777 ㄥㄥㄥɐʇʇǝuoʇ Tonetta777 ㄥㄥㄥɐʇʇǝuoʇ Tonetta777 ㄥㄥㄥɐʇʇǝuoʇ Tonetta 777 ㄥ7ㄥ7ㄥ7

Position Position, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

lol space karen was good, cant believe they didnt include apartheid clyde tho, makes u wonder if they actually use the product twitter

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link

I was space Karen first, dammit. pic.twitter.com/UvNw3UyhbW

— Dr. Karen James (@kejames) November 18, 2022

lmao

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

"Space Karen" sounds like a lost David Bowie/Robert Forster collabo.

Meet Me in the Z'Ha'Dum (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 November 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk is also asking for up 10 screenshots of the "most salient lines of code" from Twitter engineers

I had a low opinion of Elon, but I didn't think he was this stupid about software. (assuming this isn't a leak detector)

death generator (lukas), Friday, 18 November 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

its not about leaks hes been doing this the whole time number of lines committed was one of the things they looked at when deciding who to fire

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

Of course he’s this stupid he’s an emerald mine heir that’s not a background that makes you smart

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 18 November 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

What should Twitter do next?

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 18, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

"Word puzzles? Internet dating? Pokemon? What do you guys want?"

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

Heh

Meet Me in the Z'Ha'Dum (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 November 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

word puzzles def

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 18 November 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

Twitter should allow users to trade cryptocurrencies directly on the platform.

— Marc (@MarcTheBulll) November 18, 2022

this seems inevitable, or at least some sort of option to buy crypto or showcase your awesome nft artwork

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

this seems inevitable, or at least some sort of option to buy crypto or showcase your awesome nft artwork

― Karl Malone, Friday, November 18, 2022 12:48 PM (thirty-five seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

and crypto will have its ultimate crash months before they launch

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

they already have (had?) a thing for nft avs fwiw, it was a hexagon instead of a circle lol

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link

its not about leaks hes been doing this the whole time number of lines committed was one of the things they looked at when deciding who to fire

― lag∞n, Friday, November 18, 2022 9:42 AM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Of course he’s this stupid he’s an emerald mine heir that’s not a background that makes you smart

― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, November 18, 2022 9:44 AM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah but what is a "salient line of code"??? does he think there's going to be like one line of code that's brilliant and impactful in isolation?

"yeah this line is the differential equation that figures out how to align memory allocation to page boundaries, taking into account virtualization and cache latency"

actually ... brb about to go raise $10M of dumb money

death generator (lukas), Friday, 18 November 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link

but can you directly buy, sell or trade those nft avatars, on twitter? because wow, when they do that it's going to bring a lot of attention to the amazing auto-generated nft images that are out there and drive up the value. there are some really, really good images out there, people are spending a ton of time looking at them and enjoying them

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

maybe knowing things would actually in some way impair the pathological lack of self-doubt that has enabled his rise

death generator (lukas), Friday, 18 November 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link

actually ... brb about to go raise $10M of dumb money

― death generator (lukas), Friday, November 18, 2022 12:54 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the correct reaction lol

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

I thought all the dumb money was sitting tight right now b/c of the economic climate

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 18 November 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link

I got the impression Musk has no non-superficial nor real interest in code or even productivity necessarily (CEOs have earned a lot of time to 'use their own product' all day sure sure) and this is just a way of filtering out the insubordinates.

nashwan, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link

theyll get tired of that in like a week, and this whole thing of the big companies firing people is such a charade its not in their nature, just as vcs are built to throw money around big tech companies a built to hoard computer science phds xp

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:01 (one year ago) link

sounds right

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 18 November 2022 18:01 (one year ago) link

the fed is built to inflate bubbles and so forth

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link

I got the impression Musk has no non-superficial nor real interest in code or even productivity necessarily (CEOs have earned a lot of time to 'use their own product' all day sure sure) and this is just a way of filtering out the insubordinates.

― nashwan, Friday, November 18, 2022 12:59 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think he does in some way believe in the c0de, he recently described himself as having been involved in hardcore coding for 20 years

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link

hes trying to bring down the whole damn thing!

The Twitter shitshow is so bad that it's hurting productivity throughout the industry. People just can't look away

— Johnathan Norman (@spoofyroot) November 18, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

some SRE comes in with a line of perl that is 100% punctuation

death generator (lukas), Friday, 18 November 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link

just thinking of what my "10 most brilliant lines of code" would be and I'll be damned if they aren't the exact same ones I get those "why on earth did you do it this way" emails about

frogbs, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

He should put all of his resources into developing AI that allows cars to tweet at other cars while they're driving. That would be the best use of his time.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

It would be like the end of "Holy Motors."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

haa

Lol pathetic

H/T @Tweetermeyer https://t.co/oJo4hBim4U pic.twitter.com/Kg0LBSFNxV

— JabroniCoin.USD (@TheBenSchmark) November 18, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

For a 2p meeting announced at like 8:30a https://t.co/MUuNHYF0ry

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) November 18, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

lmao

I am having a difficult time believing this is real and I am looking at the emails.

— Zoë Schiffer (@ZoeSchiffer) November 18, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 18 November 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

nothing to add but cant believe how bored of slash obsessed with this story i am even though i hate computers

plax (ico), Friday, 18 November 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I know nothing about coding and I'm still amused at how bad Elon is at coding

jmm, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

have we considered the possibility this guy is in a manic episode and the last week or so is not normal behavior even for him?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 18 November 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

New Twitter policy is freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach.

Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted & demonetized, so no ads or other revenue to Twitter.

You won’t find the tweet unless you specifically seek it out, which is no different from rest of Internet.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 18, 2022

, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

so, hellbanning

, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:39 (one year ago) link

have we considered the possibility this guy is in a manic episode and the last week or so is not normal behavior even for him?

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, November 18, 2022 1:38 PM (fifty-eight seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah some sort of combo of that, total arrogance, and not understanding the difficulty of transplanting a work culture from one place to another

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:41 (one year ago) link

Max Deboosted

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 18 November 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

i can't get over the "lines of code" thing. i know next to nothing about code but for yuks i thought i would open up the Zork-type adventure game program i wrote in C++ in AP Computer Science, completed 23 years ago this Wednesday. despite my surprisingly diligent annotation, the code is basically impenetrable to me now, but also, despite my very proud feeling that i'd arrived at a really brilliant, elegant, efficient solution to the basic problems at hand, there is (believe it or not) no one masterstroke line of code that attests to this.

so even for my dorky 12th grade magnum opus, asking for the best line of code is like asking an automotive designer for the best single piece of metal in the engine. "come on, you know what i mean, the one that makes the car go fast!"

Doctor Casino, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

'Max Deboosted' is a fun new character you'll encounter on the platform, like the MS Paperclip guy... Max will help keep you abreast of Tweets that may be of interest to you

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

MAX DEBOOSTED

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 18 November 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

lol wasnt shadowbanning one of the things he vowed to get rid of

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

He was always like this. Like to think he is undergoing some sort of breakdown. Maybe if he jumps out of a building we'll know for sure xps to caek

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

my view of where twitter ends up is it's gonna be tumblr, dedicated fringe userbase but unmonetizable

, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

hes def always been unstable and impulsive but this is over the top

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

Twitter is great but it has done harm to a lot of people when they are main character and pile-ons occur. This is possibly the ultimate instance of that.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link

bean dad deserved it 100%

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

Leaker should deliberately leak their personal copy, and it should be the music video plot for Swift's "Mastermind"

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 18 November 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

my view of where twitter ends up is it's gonna be tumblr, dedicated fringe userbase but unmonetizable

― 龜, Friday, November 18, 2022 10:46 AM (four minutes ago)

tumblr was pretty slow yesterday, lotta ppl bailing on Twitter to check it out. Also Tumblr was selling Important Internet Checkmarks at 2/$8 last week

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 18 November 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link

that was a good bit apparently you could gift them too one account had like 20

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

it's perfectly possible to monetize a dedicated fringe userbase and build a sustainable business if you aren't inflated by VC money, you sell them profile trinkets for $8, it works very well

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 18 November 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link

There is some serious brain stuff happening over on r/elonmusk pic.twitter.com/eUp1tWEVsS

— rustbeltjacobin 🌹 (@rustbeltjacobin) November 18, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 18 November 2022 19:34 (one year ago) link

The mental gymnastics it takes to not acknowledge that he just sucks

— Peter 'Elon Musk (Parody)' Bajurny 🔰🐈🚰💉💉💉💉 (@fishmanpet) November 18, 2022

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 18 November 2022 19:38 (one year ago) link

Big Q Anon "Trump is actually working with the FBI to catch Hillary" vibes there

r/elonmusk fan theory makes sense, it's like that time I bought a used Audi that I suspected might have something wrong with it and turns out there was totally a cigarette burn on one of the floor mats so I plowed that fucker into the river and showed up soaking wet on the seller's doorstep asking for my money back. He told me to go fuck myself but I was like 'too late, pal, too late'

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 18 November 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

Need a new display name, thanking u elon

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 November 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link

Is that armor he's wearing in his profile pic?

Never a good sign.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 18 November 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

ok here's an even worse theory

Mind Masters: Knights of Thought pic.twitter.com/e8XDE37DvZ

— Ed Zitron (@edzitron) November 18, 2022

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 18 November 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

this is just the plot to Westworld

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 18 November 2022 20:22 (one year ago) link

lol twitter will sell you access to its data for way less than $44b

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

who'd have thought 'leaf reviews' would spout a bunch of stoned nonsense

akm, Friday, 18 November 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link

almost impressed by someone hearing "generative adversarial network" and being like "oh I get, like in a debate" and just running with it

rob, Friday, 18 November 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link

haa true

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

We’re all discriminators on Twitter.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 18 November 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

reading various reporting seems like since elon took over three week ago twitters workforce both regular and contract has shrunk by about 80%, thats fn crazy lol

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link

wasn't that the plan all along?

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 18 November 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link

prob quite a bit more than the plan but crazy regardless

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 21:37 (one year ago) link

I expect by New Years there will be raccoons and pigeons living in the HQ building

It's gonna look like the final fight scene in Blade Runner

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 18 November 2022 21:37 (one year ago) link

lol yeah last week I was asking if any company ever managed to survive after laying off half its workforce, I guess I kind of assumed that business genius Elon Musk might realize he fucked up and get people to return and he antagonized most of the rest into leaving instead

frogbs, Friday, 18 November 2022 21:43 (one year ago) link

Someone has to say it: Elon Musk has lied for 27 years about his credentials. He does not have a BS in Physics, or any technical field. Did not get into a PhD program. Dropped out in 1995 & was illegal. Later, investors quietly arranged a diploma - but not in science. 🧵1/ pic.twitter.com/ziuOMblwLJ

— capitolhunters (@capitolhunters) November 17, 2022

Fun long thread about how Elon has lied about his degrees for nearly 30 years and how this affects everything from his purchase of Twitter to US national security, from the account that hunted Jan. 6th Capitol rioters no less.

octobeard, Friday, 18 November 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

Since the security badges don't work any more, I have half a mind to head over to Twitter HQ and impersonate a high-level engineer for this meeting tonight

Pretty I'm sure I can just walk right in

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 18 November 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link

you actually need to submit a list of your best lines of code beforehand

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 November 2022 23:40 (one year ago) link

can I borrow yours?

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 18 November 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link

the sad truth is that i might be the one person in the world who could plausibly point to individual lines of code which are outstanding. when i was first putting conferencecall.biz together it was barely working at all and the code was a sprawling mess. then ilx legend allen g stepped in and it was, from my perspective, a magical transformation of it into something that was much tighter and suddenly worked flawlessly and reliably! so i guess if i had to fake being being a software developer for elon i'd just send him those lines and then email allen to let him know i might need a bunch more help again from him soon :p

Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 November 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link

lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fh4zFjPWIAAaTZz?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 November 2022 00:48 (one year ago) link

So he has at least the one brain cell

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 19 November 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/gJCouv9.png

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 November 2022 01:03 (one year ago) link

Starting to think 2022 is The Year of Those Who Fucked Around and Found Out.

octobeard, Saturday, 19 November 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link

Found out that there are no effective consequences to anything you do if you have billions of dollars at your disposal? If so, then yes.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Saturday, 19 November 2022 02:10 (one year ago) link

thread

Look. The site is gonna stay up but the spell is broken. He'll let Trump back in then he'll kick him off and the NYT will cover it in all caps. There'll be another private jet handjob horse bribe incident. He'll make Calacanis CEO and fire him. &c. Everyone will care less daily.

— Paul Ford (@ftrain) November 19, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 November 2022 02:13 (one year ago) link

Sorry, no effective consequences to the wielder of those billions, obvs. Like 'Musk tanks the fuck out of Twitter > Musk flies to Thailand with Bankman-Fried and lives off of cocaine and milk for four months' is a totally feasible progression.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Saturday, 19 November 2022 02:14 (one year ago) link

Confidence that the site will stay up seems unwarranted but the spell being broken is about right

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 19 November 2022 02:20 (one year ago) link

xxp - that is sort of how I see it falling apart for Twitter as well. the site may or may not have the sort of cascading failure that a lot of the engineers are predicting but it's gonna start to lose it's appeal. it's already starting, with a lot of accounts I really liked quitting, or getting banned for making fun of Elon Musk. it's gonna get a lot more fashy, will almost certainly have regular technical problems, and may wind up full of so much NSFW stuff you can't open it in public. little by little it'll become less appealing and I think eventually you just say fuck it. Facebook is kinda in the middle of its own problem like this. I can see Twitter being like Myspace, maybe in 5 years you'll be like "ohh I still have an account there!" and log in to find it totally revamped with a really complex layout and a bunch of weird new features you don't like. half the posts will be spam. it's really hard to do anything because they had to disable so much shit to keep from getting sued. but it'll still be around.

frogbs, Saturday, 19 November 2022 03:34 (one year ago) link

prepare to show me your objects

New email from Elon Musk to engineers: “please be prepared to do brief code reviews as I’m walking around the office.”

That’s it — that’s the whole email.

— Zoë Schiffer (@ZoeSchiffer) November 19, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 November 2022 03:53 (one year ago) link

ok that is incredibly funny

frogbs, Saturday, 19 November 2022 04:28 (one year ago) link

I know it's a little uncouth to make these kinds of assumptions but I think this dude is 100% on something right now. his behavior right now really feels like the dudes I know who were rapidly approaching a major inflection point. like, this is what the guys I knew who were on meth started acting like.

frogbs, Saturday, 19 November 2022 04:35 (one year ago) link

he has implied that hes bipolar fwiw

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 November 2022 04:40 (one year ago) link

right I mean one of the people I know is too and when he got all hopped up during a manic episode he said shit so bizarre that it was almost scary to hear. like the dude bought this company for $44,000,000,000, immediately started posting conspiracy theories, antagonized all his advertisers until they pulled out, lost 80% of his workforce within 2 weeks, and is now demanding everyone fly in to see him in person on 6 hours notice so he can tell them he's going to stalk the aisles of the workplace and do impromptu code reviews of a programming language he won't understand for an app he apparently knows absolutely nothing about (from the technical side, at least). he went from "all our unbannings will be reviewed by a diverse council that considers all viewpoints" to "should I fukkin do it!?! y/n" within a week. it's literally insane shit. like he thinks he's lucid dreaming or something.

frogbs, Saturday, 19 November 2022 04:47 (one year ago) link

Reinstate former President Trump

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 19, 2022

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Saturday, 19 November 2022 09:23 (one year ago) link

Gross, but entirely predictable, that you would hold an open-to-abuse poll to justify a totally reprehensible outcome that you have already decided upon but don’t have the guts to take personal responsibility for.

— Matt Carr (@MattCarr55) November 19, 2022

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 19 November 2022 09:58 (one year ago) link

inevitable he would poll it

what's the split?

nashwan, Saturday, 19 November 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link

currently it's the cursed 52-48

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 19 November 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link

Just leaving Twitter HQ code review pic.twitter.com/pYcXRTJm14

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 19, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 November 2022 15:04 (one year ago) link

think ive discovered the problem, too many mixers, twitter is all mixed up!

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 November 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link

Just lol at clicking on the embed of a proud Elon tweet about Twitter's awesome code and getting 'this tweet is not available' on the actual website (as has been the case with about half of the Twitter links I've clicked this week).

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Saturday, 19 November 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

love that the “code review” was apparently doing up a quickie logical architecture of the type that i have drawn, or watched others draw, countless times over my years in IT

call all destroyer, Saturday, 19 November 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link

yeah if youre curious about how a computer program works thats really the place to start not looking at code

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 November 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link

Don't bump the table
I'm trying to code

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 November 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link

it’s actually pretty interesting to see it done for twitter!

call all destroyer, Saturday, 19 November 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link

i like this part

https://i.imgur.com/nBEBLSg.png

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 November 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link

👍

Meet Me in the Z'Ha'Dum (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 November 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link

👍

Meet Me in the Z'Ha'Dum (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 November 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link

👍

Meet Me in the Z'Ha'Dum (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 November 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link

WT..?

Meet Me in the Z'Ha'Dum (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 November 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link

hahhaha the dreaded bottom corner where we put the stuff that doesn’t exist yet

call all destroyer, Saturday, 19 November 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link

more twitter infrastructure research

for people blathering about “just put twitter in the cloud” we tried that. i was there. so just to put some numbers out there, let’s assume aws gave you a 60% discount. now you’re talking approximately 500,000 m6gd.12xlarge systems (new hw was bigger). that’s $300MM monthly

— ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆ but can’t dance off it (@petrillic) November 18, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 November 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

TBF that's what I would expect an arch diagram to look like. also I'm a bit surprised he put that on twitter for the entire world to see

akm, Saturday, 19 November 2022 22:20 (one year ago) link

also re: cloud that is a good point. cloud hosting is great if you have predictable traffic levels, less good if it fluctuates wildly and you're paying bandwidth costs.

akm, Saturday, 19 November 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link

The people have spoken.

Trump will be reinstated.

Vox Populi, Vox Dei. https://t.co/jmkhFuyfkv

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 20, 2022

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 20 November 2022 01:05 (one year ago) link

lol this asshole

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Sunday, 20 November 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link

Let ‘em eat caek.

Meet Me in the Z'Ha'Dum (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 20 November 2022 01:18 (one year ago) link

The Coca Cola company is not happy with me--that's okay, I'll still keep drinking that garbage.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 16, 2012

lag∞n, Sunday, 20 November 2022 01:31 (one year ago) link

he claims hes not coming back

TRUMP JUST RESPONDED TO ELON’S POLL AND SAID “NO THANKS” LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO pic.twitter.com/CXGr9GY5vE

— Best of Dying Twiter (@bestofdyingtwit) November 19, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 20 November 2022 01:37 (one year ago) link

xp to infrastructure post

1000 node presto cluster is not “keeping twitter running” that is probably some analytical junk and if the last two years have taught me anything, it is that you really need to segment “this is what keeps people doing things” and “this is how we determine what people are doing and modify that experience”

the latter is where potential exists but if it’s a zillion times larger than the former then you’re taking crazy pils

mh, Sunday, 20 November 2022 01:39 (one year ago) link

hahhaha the dreaded bottom corner where we put the stuff that doesn’t exist yet

Here be daemons.

Meet Me in the Z'Ha'Dum (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 20 November 2022 02:45 (one year ago) link

putting money on trump making "the best deal ever" and coming back after "winning."

but i should probly read/watch/listen to trumps actual reply, which i have not.

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Sunday, 20 November 2022 05:02 (one year ago) link

you should never read/watch/listen to that guy

ciderpress, Sunday, 20 November 2022 05:10 (one year ago) link

When you spend $44b on a ring and he says no

— James Millar (@JDMillar1) November 19, 2022

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 20 November 2022 10:19 (one year ago) link

This is what Zuckerberg is up to btw.

pic.twitter.com/wDF9tRA2qX

— Gavin Mueller (@gavinmuellerphd) November 20, 2022

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 20 November 2022 13:14 (one year ago) link

Tesla is recalling more than 321,000 vehicles in the U.S. because tail lights may intermittently fail to illuminate, the company says. https://t.co/BlEmQTLkz2

— NBC News (@NBCNews) November 19, 2022

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Sunday, 20 November 2022 13:39 (one year ago) link

its very funny (and good) that regulations classify bug fix updates that can be done "over the air" as recalls, it must make him so mad

lag∞n, Sunday, 20 November 2022 14:06 (one year ago) link

tesla bring software industry practices of frequently pushing new updates to their cars is unsafe, cars need to behave in consistent predictable ways and if youre always changing the software thats not happening, even worse other companies are doing it now too

lag∞n, Sunday, 20 November 2022 14:08 (one year ago) link

Elon is merely acting as transgressor, exploring how fast others can degrade their service.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 20 November 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link

I saw someone on Twitter make the point that Trump's deal with Truth Social (i.e. whoever actually put money into that thing, because obviously it wasn't him) require that all of his posts appear there for at least 6 hours before appearing anywhere else. Assuming that's something Trump could wriggle out of if he wanted to, it's still a useful leverage point for him to do something — like, insist Musk buy the company or something.

Trump famously loves obeying contracts.

Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 20 November 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

he knows it would be a beta move to come back under these circumstances.

beard papa, Sunday, 20 November 2022 21:19 (one year ago) link

i dont think he can stay away hes going to make up an excuse to save face

lag∞n, Sunday, 20 November 2022 21:21 (one year ago) link

maybe well get partial posts with a link to the truth social original or something

lag∞n, Sunday, 20 November 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link

and he does need twitter right now with fox et al trying to shut him out he needs that megaphone

lag∞n, Sunday, 20 November 2022 21:23 (one year ago) link

Hey @Tesla, pay the man. Assholes. pic.twitter.com/FHpPU2Ir1R

— 𝓡𝓲𝓭𝓮𝓼 𝓣𝓱𝓪𝓽’𝓵𝓵 𝓑𝓮𝓪𝓽 𝓨𝓸𝓾𝓻 𝓐𝓼𝓼 (@hardestrides) October 10, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 20 November 2022 21:26 (one year ago) link

Imagine if Mussk could do for Tesla what he did for twitter - junkyards full o' telsas

| (Latham Green), Sunday, 20 November 2022 22:18 (one year ago) link

Someone in that twitter thread points out that video is from 2019 and since "resolved", no idea how true that is as they dont back the claim up.

But I'm getting wary (and weary) of a lot of disinfo and "comedy" crap flying around now.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 20 November 2022 23:20 (one year ago) link

ok!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiDP2jHVEAE-5JO?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2022 01:51 (one year ago) link

very good point

at some point elon is going to log into the account and post from it

— orinoco hockey flow (@sponcondereplay) November 21, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2022 01:53 (one year ago) link

This just took the lead in the Cringiest Fucking Thing I've Ever Seen in Austin Contest, which is really saying something pic.twitter.com/rViskmVi20

— Evil MoPac (@EvilMopacATX) November 21, 2022

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 21 November 2022 02:00 (one year ago) link

uhh what is he doing right now

And lead us not into temptation … pic.twitter.com/8qNOXzwXS9

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 21, 2022

frogbs, Monday, 21 November 2022 02:30 (one year ago) link

Winning, something something tiger blood

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Monday, 21 November 2022 02:51 (one year ago) link

gross and weird, just like the man himself

treeship., Monday, 21 November 2022 03:25 (one year ago) link

Also reinstated Project Veritas. So what if — either because it was always the goal or it has evolved apace — the model is to turn it into a global disinformation network for the international alliance of kleptocrats and religious fundamentalists? (Yes, I have been watching The Peripheral, why do you ask.) Authoritarian populism gets its own giant megaphone, which they can't build themselves because they've tried, but they can take control of one that already has the infrastructure in place. With costs covered by the League of Evil Billionaires. Still open to anyone, but with the trolls and fake accounts encouraged rather than restrained.

there have been numerous sites which encourage trolls and fake accounts and there ain't a single normal person on any of them

frogbs, Monday, 21 November 2022 04:03 (one year ago) link

Yeah, and that would probably be the result here. But they're starting at a scale where there are already a lot of "normal" non-chan people. Maybe you figure some of them stay because they don't really care about politics, they care about sports or TV shows or whatever. I don't know. I don't really think there's some masterplan or conspiracy here, it's all way too half-assed. But after some initial noises about caring about moderation, Musk is on a totally different tack. Maybe that's just his natural instinct, but god knows who all he's hearing from or what kind of money is being bandied around.

yeah, given the size of the platform, it will take more than individual users deciding "enough's enough" for it to lose its hold on all kinds of not-paying-close-attention people. assuming for a moment that the platform continues to function on the technical and financial levels... it's gonna probably require organized boycotting and noise-making, social pressure that gets people to equate having and using a Twitter account to, like, having and using a Fox News premium subscription or something like that. it has to be WIDELY understood as a right-wing scumbag edgelord disinformation site... not just amongst politically-informed types who've been carefully following all the Trump/Musk stuff and Musk's continued descent into obnoxious fashy jerkwad trollery.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 21 November 2022 04:58 (one year ago) link

do normal people use twitter though? i thought it was just

a, celebs & journalists posting
b, plebs quietly following a
c, nutjobs

micah, Monday, 21 November 2022 05:41 (one year ago) link

that weird fucking post is a milo manara lift btw

are ilx0rs normal people or c

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Monday, 21 November 2022 06:54 (one year ago) link

if you need to ask

micah, Monday, 21 November 2022 07:19 (one year ago) link

d, bots

koogs, Monday, 21 November 2022 07:23 (one year ago) link

e struggling comedians

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 21 November 2022 11:38 (one year ago) link

the problem with turning twitter into a right wing hellhole is not only that users will leave but that advertisers will too, however normal twitter has already been a big amplifier of right wing propaganda enabling trumps presidency hosting the vile libs of titok and so forth, so if i were them id basically keep it how it was maybe let a few big accounts back on

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2022 12:37 (one year ago) link

tbh I don't really know how the math changes when it comes to social networks, because people join because people they like are on it, and when some of those people start leaving they may start leaving as well. even though Twitter is addictive and has a stranglehold on those little pockets of free time people have I also think it doesn't take much for that addiction to break. the clowning on Elon is fun and I'm all for messy forums drama but is it really gonna be fun a month from now? I'm already noticing some of the good people have left and that a lot of right-wing trolls are starting to take over.

the whole idea Elon has - that Twitter should be a "town square" or "marketplace of ideas" - is exclusively a right wing thing, for reasons the left figured out long ago. free speech absolutism always just leads to stuff like "maybe Paul Pelosi had a gay lover and staged a false flag attack to help Dems in the midterms" which I think most smart people figured out you just don't engage with. you can't change anyone's mind and quite frankly who wants to spend their time that way? ILX is an echo chamber too and that's why I like it. you don't seek out contrarian assholes to hang out with in real life so why would you wanna do that online?

frogbs, Monday, 21 November 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link

yeah the elon pile on seems like its already over as far as something thats fun im sure it will continue forever in some form, but yeah hes prob gonna ruin the site seems like rip

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link

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paulcarrigan@proton.me, Monday, 21 November 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link

whoa we've entered the wormhole

frogbs, Monday, 21 November 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link

did that just happen? I think it did!

mh, Monday, 21 November 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

Dang, I assume that was (inept) spam. Banned.

DPRK in Cincinnati (WmC), Monday, 21 November 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

I am interested in new ideas, maybe give paul a chance

mh, Monday, 21 November 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

we’re through the looking glass here people

Tracer Hand, Monday, 21 November 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

what do you guys think the probability is that Elon has seen this thread? probably non-zero!

mh, Monday, 21 November 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

I mean, Paul there has a very interesting filmography over on imdb.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 21 November 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link

"quality is something you definitely cannot afford to compromise"

New board description?

guess papers best prices

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

i've never had quality, are u willing to accept any of the rest of my shit for a deal, world

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Monday, 21 November 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link

Tesla price just keeps dropping. Saw Elon was being rounded on by right wing Twitter for his refusal to unban Alex Jones.

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Monday, 21 November 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link

wonder what it would take for him to get fired from tesla

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

hope i can get a tesla for five bucks soon and enter it into a demolition derby

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, 21 November 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

A consummation devoutly to be wished

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 21 November 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

Xp

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 21 November 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

crash the tesla once it combusts and burns for five days

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

Teslakuh

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, 21 November 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link

Grandpa? Why do we celebrate the holiday?

Sit on my lap son & let grandpa tell you the story of this day

You see, twitter only had enough engineers remaining to keep it running for one more night, but it miraculously kept working for eight nights

We burn a Tesla in remembrance

— Elder Rubber Asylum (@Rubberasylum) November 18, 2022

sleeve, Monday, 21 November 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link

wow it still works!

sleeve, Monday, 21 November 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link

haha

ꙮ (map), Monday, 21 November 2022 16:45 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiH_jo3XkAA8ux4?format=jpg&name=large

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 00:41 (one year ago) link

What are the words “Taylor Swift” doing there?

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 00:42 (one year ago) link

Why is israel engaging with Kanye for clout

treeship., Tuesday, 22 November 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

Anyone else feel like they're getting weirder/sketchier/more random suggested tweets? Just anecdotal, but the timeline feels more cluttered.

Oops I guess that should have gone on the Twitter thread. I forget which one I'm on.

Hey tipsy, I see you’re feeling lonely, alienated, like no one understands. Click here to learn how you can take back your manhood and take back America.

treeship., Tuesday, 22 November 2022 00:53 (one year ago) link

What are the words “Taylor Swift” doing there?

― Tracer Hand, Monday, November 21, 2022 7:42 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i have done some research and the country of israel tagged taylor swift in their post as a reference to:

Taylor Swift: “I Would Very Much Like To Be Excluded From This Narrative”
Swift wrote a note on Instagram in response to the video Kim Kardashian posted of Swift’s phone conversation with Kanye West.

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 00:56 (one year ago) link

xp lol

who could have predicted this

Twitter won’t restart paid verification until ‘significant impersonations’ stop, Elon Musk tells employees https://t.co/htpnMtov4m pic.twitter.com/a4GYMd5YI6

— The Verge (@verge) November 22, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 01:19 (one year ago) link

He is running this site in a dumber way than I ever would have predicted

treeship., Tuesday, 22 November 2022 01:22 (one year ago) link

Staggering. The dumbness. I’m dumbstruck

treeship., Tuesday, 22 November 2022 01:23 (one year ago) link

its really something

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 01:23 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiIJEl_XEAEoDmY?format=jpg&name=large

lmao

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 01:32 (one year ago) link

idc if real or fake

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 01:33 (one year ago) link

i did search and its in a bunch of tweets at least, good enough for me lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 01:37 (one year ago) link

Are there "ratings" for social media platforms, or is he just incapable of thinking of things in any terms other than those of 1980s television?

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 01:38 (one year ago) link

app stores have ratings prob what hes talking about

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 01:38 (one year ago) link

crazy truth social doesnt have a web interface you cant just go look at trumps truth tweets

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 01:40 (one year ago) link

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump

test test

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 01:45 (one year ago) link

oh there u go hey

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 01:47 (one year ago) link

i guess that post was fake, sowwy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 01:48 (one year ago) link

either that was fake or it got untruthed

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 01:49 (one year ago) link

Like I said I don’t care if it’s fake

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 01:49 (one year ago) link

+1 silbytruthed

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 01:50 (one year ago) link

its real in that its true its super truth social

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 01:50 (one year ago) link

lmao i would be so chatty tell him about my week

Going forward, all Twitter employees are now required to send an email every Friday updating Elon Musk with what they are working on and “code samples” if they are engineers, per internal memo sent out. Hardcore! https://t.co/Vx5TH5yU7X

— Alex Heath (@alexeheath) November 22, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 01:53 (one year ago) link

The man must be made of pure cocaine at this point.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 02:20 (one year ago) link

Maybe direct access to uncut shit was the Bolivia coup motivation rather than lithium.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 02:21 (one year ago) link

once he's down to like <30 employees this is v manageable. check back next week

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 03:30 (one year ago) link

How is he so bad at understanding how humans operate, what humans like and don't like, the kinds of humans other humans do and do not enjoy working for, etc. Oh right sociopathy, nm.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 04:03 (one year ago) link

Plus the privilege of never having to care what other people think or learn how to connect with them. See also DJT obv.

is he doing this like "twitter employees, justify your existence" ?

StanM, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 06:14 (one year ago) link

imagining a scene where X AE A-XII and Exa Dark Sideræl are clamoring for their dad's attention during a weekend. "not now! daddy's reviewing code samples!"

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 06:32 (one year ago) link

trent "nine inch nails" reznor pic.twitter.com/d0ZgPNWtVb

— Cody Johnston (@drmistercody) November 22, 2022

anyone with a passing familiarity with nine inch nails already knows he's massive crybaby. "I just want something I can never have boo hoo"

ledge, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 08:40 (one year ago) link

"maybe Etsy is more is style"

-Elon "Hardcore" Musk

circa1916, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 13:02 (one year ago) link

hehe nine inch nails more like eight inch nails

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 14:02 (one year ago) link

https://archive.ph/7iyY6

, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link

i wanna Thiel you from the inside

frogbs, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiHe0VnVEAA101Z?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link

lmao

mh, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

he tried to spin it like all the bands sound the same to him.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

i am going to send Brandon an email that just says "bootlicker" every day for a month. just sent the first one.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

Chasing clout by cribbing a Nate Silver tweet, the man is truly the wackest poster ever to touch a keyboard pic.twitter.com/Z94fz3Vjnn

— Tom Scocca (@tomscocca) November 21, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

https://twitter.com/edzitron/status/1595105866977419264/photo/1

pretty funny that that feature is still working

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiL0VQjUAAA7d_v?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

Carl "Dune" Jung

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

Elon's quote neither Dune nor Jung, but Dung.

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

Weird that he would talk shit about his reply guys like that

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

I don't want reply guys, I just want a shy guy

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtTR-_Klcq8

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

Things that definitely happened

Ummmmmmmmm wut? pic.twitter.com/2hULyXctig

— Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) November 22, 2022

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link

the very idea of left-of-center "social/political activist groups" forming "a large coalition" around any proposal in less than 18 months, let alone the idea that in a few weeks such groups could strong arm Twitter's advertisers into something they didn't already want to do, seems like a fever dream. where do I sign up for these super-powerful and ultra-effective activist groups?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 00:52 (one year ago) link

seriously. can't believe the people i just made up would go back on the deal i assure you we made.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 01:14 (one year ago) link

ah haaa

wait, what ??? Elon Musk has been going around saying "I saw the red flags and didn't invest with SBF in Twitter...." and actually he *did* and FTX owns some Twitter???? https://t.co/y5BEIuX1zq

— Kelsey Piper (@KelseyTuoc) November 22, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 02:41 (one year ago) link

game recognize game

Clay, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 02:44 (one year ago) link

YES!!! The crossover episode!!!!

death generator (lukas), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 02:47 (one year ago) link

lolz

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 02:56 (one year ago) link

Good news, Elon is secretly fighting the pedophile elites:

lol published right as I tweeted pic.twitter.com/Mkbryq6TTU

— spoonie for qatar 🇶🇦 (@lib_crusher) November 22, 2022

thread becomes more bizarre as it goes on, apparently Eliza Bleu is well known under other names in the My Chemical Romance fandom and was once engaged to Gerard Way.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 05:50 (one year ago) link

Effected

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 06:03 (one year ago) link

no way to vouch for this as evidence except to say "makes total sense" (the best kind of evidence)

This is *exactly* as I imagined, and provides the most straightforward explanation for anyone still trying to grasp at complicated theories on how the "SpaceX genius" could possibly be so bad at this. https://t.co/gRAgBgCPo7 pic.twitter.com/b2PGwhQmH7

— Rob Sheridan (Parody) (@rob_sheridan) November 23, 2022

mark s, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 12:15 (one year ago) link

Looolll. IRL Gavin Belson

SpaceX employees re-coloring a giant dong cake and giving it to their oblivious child-king Elon for his birthday as a "rocket" cake is *chef's kiss* pic.twitter.com/bngMr4E8Vx

— Rob Sheridan (Parody) (@rob_sheridan) November 23, 2022

groovypanda, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 12:26 (one year ago) link

thats pretty funny, might be real or might not, but it is true

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 12:54 (one year ago) link

elon is a paypig for space exploration

, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 12:59 (one year ago) link

everyone working for spacex deserves it, we do not belong in space, its not for us

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 13:00 (one year ago) link

same thing with microblogging

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 13:01 (one year ago) link

L’espace c’est moi.

Meet Me in the Z'Ha'Dum (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 13:05 (one year ago) link

he deleted this but jesus christ dude

https://archive.ph/kSncC

frogbs, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 14:04 (one year ago) link

lol linking to the doj report what a goober

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 14:06 (one year ago) link

where is this going?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 14:50 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk has said he's about context on tweets, so here's context for these shirts: They came from Twitter's Black employee resource group and were popularized by @jack, who wore a version around to conferences to support the group (and was sometimes ridiculed for it). pic.twitter.com/Lw7aXJSBke

— Ryan Mac 🙃 (@RMac18) November 23, 2022

jaymc, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link

apartheid clyde

, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link

I already posted this in the quitting twitter thread, but icymi: https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-03-25/black-tesla-employees-fremont-plant-racism-california-lawsuit

I guess some things don't need reinventing

― rob, Tuesday, May 3, 2022 9:12 AM (six months ago)

Musk's overt anti-Black racism, especially as a manager of Black workers, is well established. It's a real failure that this has been basically shrugged off or subsumed under a "Musk is a troll lol" narrative that makes it seem clownish

rob, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

There was a long segment on NPR yesterday, interviewing some people about the Twitter situation. A former employee (a contractor free to talk, as opposed to former employees silenced by NDAs), that reporter from the Verge, and this VC investor Musk bootlicker with fingers in both Twitter and Tesla who was downright embarrassing to listen to. After defending Musk and his methods and stressing, Twitter aside, how well Tesla is run, the host had to point out that, well, no, point of fact, Tesla has gotten more than its share of complaints, specifically about work culture and racism.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

god he really is the world's worst poster. just absolute cringe

https://i.imgur.com/cxbfkcM.png

frogbs, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 20:24 (one year ago) link

also note the times on those, Stephen didn't bite so he posted again like 12 hours later

frogbs, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

King I’m sure has him on mute.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link

Sorry, who did this? 😂 pic.twitter.com/uhP0moZJqQ

— tyler hogge (@thogge) November 23, 2022

, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link

Elon's mom reposted that which is really gross considering that he's almost certainly sockpuppeting her account

frogbs, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 21:52 (one year ago) link

I somehow missed that Musk stole a dril tweet and cropped out his name...the guy is so lame. https://t.co/ZIpKdbhf2x

— Aryeh Cohen-Wade (@AryehCW) November 23, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 21:52 (one year ago) link

You come at the king, you best not miss

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link

you can hardly blame him look what happens when he tries to make his own jokes

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiRiYJJVEAAARvw?format=jpg&name=large

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

only able to shoot himself with this musketry

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link

God so cringe. Elon should learn to stay in his lane, no matter what pedestrian trolling is thrown at him

Vinnie, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 23:15 (one year ago) link

tbf his lane is being a lame who is also promoting the murder of queer people

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link

TBH I paid approximately zero attention to this dude before the past couple of weeks and hadn't formed an opinion about him one way or another (aside from a general 'billionaires = douchenozzles') but I am definitely forming a very strong opinion about him now and it isn't a favorable opinion and I have a feeling there are lots and lots of people in shoes similar to the ones I'm wearing. Is this a 'any publicity is good publicity' thing? Because I'm not sure that's always actually a thing.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Thursday, 24 November 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link

Same.

piscesx, Thursday, 24 November 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link

Good point lag∞n, but I was only trying to set someone else up for a Tesla joke

Vinnie, Thursday, 24 November 2022 00:37 (one year ago) link

ha cant believe i missed that, too mad @musk lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 24 November 2022 00:38 (one year ago) link

Even Reddit seems to be turning on him

frogbs, Thursday, 24 November 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link

geeeeeez it always gets worse

New: Here's the text message from @elonmusk telling SBF he's "welcome" to roll his public shares into Musk's twitter, as Liz reported https://t.co/7yS5166PtP pic.twitter.com/UpjC4GfBBW

— Ben Smith (@semaforben) November 23, 2022

frogbs, Thursday, 24 November 2022 03:39 (one year ago) link

I don’t believe that Elon did not know who was texting him. I think he was negging him because SBF wasn’t putting up more money. This is the dorkiest soap opera ever.

fwiw "So long as I don't have to have a laborious blockchain debate" is the only likeable thing musk has ever written, and it was in ref to a meeting with SBF. https://danluu.com/elon-twitter-texts/#62

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 24 November 2022 07:53 (one year ago) link

hahah of course michael grimes is the SBF connect

, Thursday, 24 November 2022 12:14 (one year ago) link

the hilarious part is that Musk got so unbelievably triggered by that exchange that he went back to it over 3 years later and replied. talk about rent-free pic.twitter.com/oznRQZwcJi

— ☀️👀 (@zei_squirrel) November 24, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 24 November 2022 21:36 (one year ago) link

claims hes gonna unban all banned accounts, should be interesting

The people have spoken.

Amnesty begins next week.

Vox Populi, Vox Dei.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 24, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 25 November 2022 14:08 (one year ago) link

app stores have in the past removed social apps that didnt do enough moderation

lag∞n, Friday, 25 November 2022 14:09 (one year ago) link

There was a once famous political formation that styled itself as neither right nor left while worrying about civilizational suicide. https://t.co/npQvtEdETQ

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) November 25, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 25 November 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link

Re app stores, I feel like the only actually good thing that could come out of that is a coked up litigious billionaire taking on apple re its App Store policies.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 25 November 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

Re app stores, I feel like the only actually good thing that could come out of that is a coked up litigious billionaire taking on apple re its App Store policies.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 25 November 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

epic tried and lost (dont know if they were on coke)

lag∞n, Friday, 25 November 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

Congrats to Tesla Autopilot/AI team on achieving a major milestone! pic.twitter.com/gQ8rI3slCX

— would you like to know how i got these SARS (@tompettyflacko) November 25, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 25 November 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

i have to admit having some sympathy for Apple's dictatorial control over its app store because i see it as a kind of content moderation and i'm pretty convinced that the only content moderation that works is total dictatorship

Tracer Hand, Friday, 25 November 2022 22:10 (one year ago) link

sure but it does not work in the case of apple. the app store is full of literal scams and gambling adverts.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 25 November 2022 22:40 (one year ago) link

lmao

If Apple & Google boot Twitter from their app stores, @elonmusk should produce his own smartphone. Half the country would happily ditch the biased, snooping iPhone & Android. The man builds rockets to Mars, a silly little smartphone should be easy, right?

— Liz Wheeler (@Liz_Wheeler) November 25, 2022


I certainly hope it does not come to that, but, yes, if there is no other choice, I will make an alternative phone

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 25, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 25 November 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link

sickos_yes_hahaha_yes.jpg

Tracer Hand, Friday, 25 November 2022 23:07 (one year ago) link

looking forward to some more exploding phones

ciderpress, Friday, 25 November 2022 23:07 (one year ago) link

muskphone

lag∞n, Friday, 25 November 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link

fully self-posting

Clay, Friday, 25 November 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link

Space phones!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 November 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link

I’m posting from mine right now 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Friday, 25 November 2022 23:59 (one year ago) link

you can call anyone except your own kids

nashwan, Saturday, 26 November 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

The Batphone

| (Latham Green), Saturday, 26 November 2022 00:38 (one year ago) link

a tephelone

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 26 November 2022 01:10 (one year ago) link

lol

“We surveyed 442 Twitter employees remaining at the company, and asked them: Do you believe Twitter will succeed under Elon Musk’s management? Eighty-nine percent said ‘no’ https://t.co/qpRo1ffMCI

— Rest of World (@restofworld) November 26, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 26 November 2022 02:04 (one year ago) link

This was the plot of a “W/ Bob and David” skit!

You have to have a Twitter email address to get on the Twitter blind, but you don’t have to keep it to stay in. Given most employees have quit or been fired, I assume most of this 400 people don’t work at Twitter any more.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 26 November 2022 03:51 (one year ago) link

Elon's child died in his arms, the same way he "founded" Paypal pic.twitter.com/IBcufwwR9f

— TERFs are not women (@Saeko_Cut) November 25, 2022

Chris L, Saturday, 26 November 2022 11:24 (one year ago) link

Really disgusting.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 26 November 2022 12:01 (one year ago) link

Ouch

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 26 November 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link

hes been using his dead child for marketing purposes for years

lag∞n, Saturday, 26 November 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link

“Seriously, you think $50K is enough and he won’t call?” pic.twitter.com/WCnLbTJ3zd

— modest proposal (@modestproposal1) November 26, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 26 November 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

link https://archive.ph/pzLu5

lag∞n, Saturday, 26 November 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

credit where its due to musk for knowing how to annoy these guys into spending something lol

lag∞n, Saturday, 26 November 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link

there's so much legitimate stuff to castigate this guy for, how on earth are people choosing to go with 'fact-checking his account of his infant son's death' (in the context of explaining why he won't let Alex Jones back on twitter ffs)

soref, Saturday, 26 November 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link

youre giving him too much credit

lag∞n, Saturday, 26 November 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link

annoy more like threaten to destroy trumpily

nashwan, Saturday, 26 November 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

i doubt theyre too afraid but on the other had why risk it

lag∞n, Saturday, 26 November 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link

His first wife has told that story before. Article very interesting reading.

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Saturday, 26 November 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

I mean if the result of the fact checking shows he is clearly lying in his account it feels p valid tbh that’s a fucked up thing to do

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Saturday, 26 November 2022 19:16 (one year ago) link

it's one thing for his ex-wife to respond with her own account, but for hundreds of random twitter users who weren't there and don't know any of these people to jump in feels ghoulish to me. something specifically horrible about twitter as well, flattening out everything from the most to the least trivial thing imaginable into an opportunity for owns and receipts and quote-dunks

soref, Saturday, 26 November 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link

hes also used the death of his child as the origin story of why he wants to save humanity via his companies, which of course is not something he actually wants to do, so its worthy of criticism

lag∞n, Saturday, 26 November 2022 19:19 (one year ago) link

It’ll be funny if they manage to fire him from Tesla for spending too much time on Twitter

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 26 November 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link

(xp)
We already knew this guys sucks, it’s just nice to be able boil it all down to one catchy soundbite that everyone can relate to.

The Dark End of the Tweet (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 November 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link

Since Elon paid 44 billion to make himself the permanent main character of Twitter, Twitter users are naturally going to be interested in his grotesque lies.

Chris L, Saturday, 26 November 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

for sure will be interesting to see what happens to his unprofitable companies stock prices thatre propped up by his reputation as a genius if his reputation continues to tank

lag∞n, Saturday, 26 November 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

+his estate is comprised almost entirely of stock in said companies

lag∞n, Saturday, 26 November 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

“permanent main character” is a pretty good summation of why i find his personality so loathsome

the late great, Saturday, 26 November 2022 19:32 (one year ago) link

Elon fanboys are going apeshit for a product that does not and never will exist pic.twitter.com/Yjn1v0mEeg

— Wild Geerters (@steinkobbe) November 26, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 26 November 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link

credit where its due to musk for knowing how to annoy these guys into spending something lol


I don’t think it’s credit it’s just that people like Musk know that if they whine long enough they win.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 26 November 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk on SEX without procreation pic.twitter.com/UnDiRKt3yu

— Shannen Michaela 🍉 (@ShannenJPEG) November 25, 2022

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 26 November 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link

Waiting for him to unzip the human suit he's wearing.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 26 November 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link

I guess doing anything in this life that isn't bending over to your employer is a waste of time? I bet Musk finds eating for pleasure to be nonsensical too. He's either parroting talking points being fed to him (some kompromat involved maybe?) or is actively in full 100% troll mode 24/7. I think it's both.

octobeard, Saturday, 26 November 2022 22:50 (one year ago) link

bro there is no way pic.twitter.com/NsrmuRDHpJ

— Hurt CoPain (@SaeedDiCaprio) November 26, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 27 November 2022 02:05 (one year ago) link

Feel nauseated after learning he lied about the circumstances of the death of his son. I’m really sick of narcissists in public life.

treeship., Sunday, 27 November 2022 02:25 (one year ago) link

More sickened by dick riders posting shit like "as a hospice nurse how dare I question Elon's recollection of events"

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 27 November 2022 02:36 (one year ago) link

*you

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 27 November 2022 02:36 (one year ago) link

Pointing out someone is bald is the real racism.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 27 November 2022 02:36 (one year ago) link

As an apartheid-supportimg emerald mine owner in South Africa, here's why Elon haters miss the mark...

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 27 November 2022 02:38 (one year ago) link

Now waiting for an opportunity to say: “Well then, that’s a horse of a different color.”

The Dark End of the Tweet (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 November 2022 02:53 (one year ago) link

the dead son thing is super gross, not just because he lied about it but because he's using him as a scapegoat for why he can't unban Alex Jones, which is obviously because he doesn't want to touch the dude who just got sued for a bazillion dollars for spreading misinformation

frogbs, Sunday, 27 November 2022 03:06 (one year ago) link

i did not invent this but just heard "Phony Stark" and had to tip my hat

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 27 November 2022 12:43 (one year ago) link

guns, diet coke, buddhist ritual implements, normal stuff

My bedside table pic.twitter.com/sIdRYJcLTK

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 28, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 15:41 (one year ago) link

what a freak

call all destroyer, Monday, 28 November 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link

lol this mfr is drinking caffeine free diet coke

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link

is that gun loaded?

treeship., Monday, 28 November 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

hope his children weren't running around the house with that thing on the table. so grotesque.

treeship., Monday, 28 November 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

hope his children weren't running around the house with that thing on the table. so grotesque.

treeship., Monday, 28 November 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

Think Different

Clay, Monday, 28 November 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

night full of thrusting and diet coke burps

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 November 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link

gun means he's getting closer to completing the lowtax speedrun

, Monday, 28 November 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link

I’m sure there’s a well-thumbed copy of Middlemarch just out of frame

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, 28 November 2022 15:56 (one year ago) link

i'm assuming that revolver is a prop from some sci-fi/cyberpunk thing? very cool and hardcore either way.

circa1916, Monday, 28 November 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link

I got permanently suspended again, so MUCH FOR FREE SPEECH ELON

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, 28 November 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link

what did you do

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link

hope his children weren't running around the house with that thing on the table. so grotesque.

― treeship., Monday, November 28, 2022 10:44 AM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he doesnt live with his kids cmon be serious

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 15:58 (one year ago) link

xpost I wrote "god is a cunt"

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, 28 November 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link

Elon is probably the shittiest father

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, 28 November 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link

whaat xp

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link

Having an extended psychotic break in public

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 28 November 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link

gonna be hard to fire that revolver with no trigger

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Monday, 28 November 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

NEW: Elon Musk has sent another email to Twitter engineers warning them about code reviews. “All managers are expected to write a meaningful amount of software themselves. Being unable to do so is like a cavalry captain who can’t ride a horse.”

— Zoë Schiffer (@ZoeSchiffer) November 28, 2022

i guess this means the CEO should be expected to do most of the coding right

frogbs, Monday, 28 November 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link

Can’t imagine being the world’s richest person & painstakingly lining that display up like it’s a get ready with me video for tiktok

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Monday, 28 November 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

gonna be hard to fire that revolver with no trigger

― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Monday, November 28, 2022 11:07 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah dont think either of those are real guns, much like caffeine free diet coke is not real diet coke

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link

this is insane, I cannot imagine working there right now, and I can't understand what he thinks is going to eventually happen; he's going to totally drain his engineering team. how is that a strategy?

akm, Monday, 28 November 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link

Saw someone say that the gun on the table is a replica from deus ex, even worse if true

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Monday, 28 November 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link

hey Twitter's still running though lmao

frogbs, Monday, 28 November 2022 16:13 (one year ago) link

lmao making managers code is a very well known bad practice, they have a job its called managing

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

Elon, can you stop this? pic.twitter.com/pYyCQbKl24

— Bim (@bimsalabem) November 28, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

He seems to have absolute disdain for this institution he paid a lot of money to be in charge of. Reminds me of that guy who used to be president.

treeship., Monday, 28 November 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

i was skeptical of the idea that twitter would break completely but if he keeps up this all out assault on the engineering dept it will eventually

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

hopefully it'll be like Children of Men, where it's 2040, the last tweet was successfully tweeted 18 years ago before Twitter broke, but rumors appear that a new tweet is going to post soon

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, 28 November 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link

much like cia doing crack cocaine, i'm starting to wonder if cia did elon buying twitter. though it would have been a much more complicated op. idk it's probably just "hugely fortunate accident benefiting global hegemony" tbr.

idly wonder if "disaster leadership" is overall an effective way to retrench/accelerate the status quo in the same way that disaster capitalism is.

ꙮ (map), Monday, 28 November 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

It's worked too well to be a CIA plot tbh.

today i learned that there's a caffeine free regular coke, which seems like a pervert's drink

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71mLKuq2IUL.jpg

, Monday, 28 November 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link

caffeine-free regular coke is fucking amazing, I will not hear a word against it

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 28 November 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link

once i had a budding awareness that the corn syrup in coke is better than the caffeine but i extinguished it

ꙮ (map), Monday, 28 November 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link

imo caffeine free diet coke is more deranged than the normal coke version, diet coke is exactly a caffeine delivery system, its only reason to exist

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

cfdc is very twisted. perverted even. perfect villain signifier.

ꙮ (map), Monday, 28 November 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

sometimes you want a coke with dinner but it's too late in the day for caffeine

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 28 November 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

my parents used to make my sister and I drink caffeine free regular coke when we wanted coke at home. I probably drank more coke growing up, overall, than one should, but less than other people. Now I have it sparingly because black coffee is better and better for you

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 28 November 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

anyway Twitter is still "up" but it is grinding inexorably towards collapse

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 28 November 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

There is no need for caffeine-free Coke as long as root beer exists.

o. nate, Monday, 28 November 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link

good ole root beer

ꙮ (map), Monday, 28 November 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link

the beer of the ground

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

root beer is only good by itself or with ice cream, not food

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 28 November 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link

Barq's root beer has caffeine and is yummy

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 28 November 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link

Yeah I also grew up on caffeine free regular coke, the low threshold for caffeine that resulted meant that when I first got into coffee as an adult it felt like I had been plugged directly into gods brain.

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, 28 November 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

Caffeine free diet coke is for people who had a diet coke habit and are now trying to cut down on caffeine. People who drink diet coke drink a lot if it.

treeship., Monday, 28 November 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link

The taste is likely comforting to the addict even if it lacks that sweet caffeine

treeship., Monday, 28 November 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link

sometimes you want a coke with dinner but it's too late in the day for caffeine

Pfft. I drink a 16 ounce glass of unsweetened iced tea at 10 PM for that last burst of writing energy before bedtime.

Also, Diet Coke is what you drink when there's no Coke Zero in the house.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 28 November 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link

I imagine caffeine-free Coke sales are higher in Utah.

o. nate, Monday, 28 November 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

I remember being in the back of the family car when caffeine-free Coke was new and my dad was talking about it with a friend of his in the front seat. The friend said, "First the cocaine, now this!" It was the first time young me learned what the Coca stood for.

Also, Diet Coke is what you drink when there's no Coke Zero in the house.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, November 28, 2022 12:27 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

coke zero the diet coke for mans (less caffeine)

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link

I don't drink soda except I have a healthy seltzer addiction, I have a whole carbonation (NOT SODASTREAM) setup and everything lmfao.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 28 November 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link

I drank a lot of soda as a kid, tho— probably enough for a lifetime.

One of my writing mentors was addicted to Tab, and so whenever I come across one— a deep rarity, but an occasional occurrence— I drink one in his memory.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 28 November 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

wonder if elon is drinking caffeine free diet coke because he’s on too many uppers generally (as has been speculated itt)

, Monday, 28 November 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link

oops

SCOOP: Twitter didn't pay its current and former employees on time in the UK and Germany today. “It has come to our attention that some of you may not have received your November 2022 salary yet in your bank account,” an email sent this morning says.

— Chris Stokel-Walker ~ @sto✧✧✧@info✧✧✧.excha✧✧✧ (@stokel) November 28, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link

Truly strange situations going on next to the beds of Elon Musk fans pic.twitter.com/qqiXUejEEf

— Ed Zitron (@edzitron) November 28, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

Caffeine free diet coke is for people who had a diet coke habit and are now trying to cut down on caffeine. People who drink diet coke drink a lot if it.

― treeship., Monday, 28 November 2022 17:23 (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink


Guilty as charged! It’s been two years since I ditched the caffeine, now just need to get rid of the aspartame.

hamicle, Monday, 28 November 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link

ooh i have one of those pink rock-salt lamps (first pic)

it's not by my bed tho (it sheds salt everywhere and is not long for this world i think)

i have none of the other things

mark s, Monday, 28 November 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link

i keep an anton chigurh gun next to my bed

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

I am reluctant to defend this dum dum, and I think Musk is a bad troll, but the bedside table photo is likely a pun akin to "let that sink in." That is, his bedside table is cluttered with guns and coke. Get it, har har?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 November 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link

crystal lamps are entirely respectable and have no business being on that guy's bedstand. i bet a girlfriend is responsible for them.

ꙮ (map), Monday, 28 November 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

Apple has mostly stopped advertising on Twitter. Do they hate free speech in America?

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 28, 2022

and another thing: im not mad. please dont put in the newspaper that i got mad.

— wint (@dril) December 29, 2014

frogbs, Monday, 28 November 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link

Apple doesn't hate free speech, it hates anything free.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 November 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

trying to bully the biggest company in the world should go well

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link

I'm beginning to feel like Musk is stealing Trump's thunder among the absolutely fucking broken and worthless dickhole quotient of America who like their celebrities to be toxic, racist and awful.

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Monday, 28 November 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

Probably a good thing he can't run for president.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 28 November 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

People still talking about the Tesla phone like it’s real 😭

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Monday, 28 November 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

hes def trying but like most trump imitators hes just got no game

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0csRUZ_l41Y

https://flux.community/matthew-sheffield/2022/11/elon-musk-ideology-libertarian-effective-altruism-far-right/

Relevant MuskChat on Silicon Valley, dumbass infantile libertarianism, and Twitter culture scolds who couldn’t exist were it not for all the users they claim to hate on the network they claim to hate

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 28 November 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

Barq's root beer has caffeine

o fuk

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 28 November 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

at least with Trump there was some strange sort of charisma there, like he was a WWE heel. Elon is not only pathetic he's also incredibly boring

frogbs, Monday, 28 November 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

yeah doing a trump isnt that easy elon thinks he has the juice cause he was the beneficiary of a well executed pr campaign, but this is a whole other thing

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

xxpost Yeah, "Barq's has Bite."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 November 2022 18:37 (one year ago) link

Trump legitimately funny though. No try-hard photos for this king

The Coca Cola company is not happy with me--that's okay, I'll still keep drinking that garbage.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 16, 2012

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Monday, 28 November 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

That's, like, Trump Classic though. The old formula.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 November 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

Musk tells a colleague of mine that Apple is threatening Twitter’s standing in the App Store. Explains his string of tweets just now critiquing Apple. https://t.co/8FsbZENYRL

— Alex Heath (@alexeheath) November 28, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link

Apple has also threatened to withhold Twitter from its App Store, but won’t tell us why

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 28, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link

re: failure to make payroll, they have employees in like 30 countries and no meaningful payroll department https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-payroll-finance-department-resigns-en-masse-under-elon-musk-2022-11.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 28 November 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link

they should just put a big bowl of cash by the door and you take some when you leave every day

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

Time to invent that phone!

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Monday, 28 November 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

he’s gotta put a camera in a hammer before that, sorry first come first served

Clay, Monday, 28 November 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

this man is very silly, who knows if apple has actually threatened twitter with removal from the app store but if they did they did they certainly said why

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

they should just put a big bowl of cash by the door and you take some when you leave every day

http://www.alphabettes.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/takeapenny_bakery.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 November 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

Negotiating in public, always a good tactic. He doesn't seem to fully understand that nobody has to be on Twitter.

xp eh, it wouldn't be the first time. apple has history of either giving inscrutable reasons, or refusing to give reasons for rejections.

ironically prte-musk twitter did a much better job of designing an enforcable moderation policy and enacting it in a way that people understood than apple has ever done.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 28 November 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

they didnt reject twitter tho, musks story is they called him up and threatened to do it and when he asked why they laughed and hung up, doesnt make much sense the whole point of a threat is to extract a concession

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link

musk's story is a couple of engagement bait tweets that ask more questions than they answer

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 28 November 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link

theyre nonsense

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 19:08 (one year ago) link

I kind of love the idea of some Apple execs calling him on speakerphone and being like "Nyaaaah, we're gonna kick you out of our app store! How you like THEM Apples? Hahahahaha!"

*muffled speakerphone laughter, fumbled hangup*

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

I mean Tim Apple just took a hatchet to Facebook’s entire bottom line and crying foul didn’t really change the outcome. But sure let’s try to fuck around and find out.

— Jason Goldman (@goldman) November 28, 2022

it’s good to be reminded of how funny this was and is

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Monday, 28 November 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

lol otm

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link

based on the timeline what id guess happened is musk starts bitching about apple cutting back on advertising, someone asks him if apple has threatened twitters spot in the app store, they have not but it seems like a good thing to bitch about so musk says yes and then proceeded to bitch about it

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

which doesnt mean apple couldnt reach the conclusion that twitter is under moderated at some point, but seems unlikely that were there yet

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 19:16 (one year ago) link

nothing brings back the day to day numbing banal dumbness of the trump years harder than "tim apple"

Clay, Monday, 28 November 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link

Next version of iOS blocks all advertising on the Twitter app regardless of whether you use it or not

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Monday, 28 November 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link

So getting kicked off the App Store probably would actually be a MAE under the merger agreement? Lol. Lmao.

— Quantian (@quantian1) November 28, 2022


Now we get to see if the bond indentures were drafted as carefully as Twitter’s contracts were.

— Quantian (@quantian1) November 28, 2022

iiuc this is saying twitter's loans could be contingent on not doing something like "getting kicked out of the app store"? that would be funny.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 28 November 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

nothing brings back the day to day numbing banal dumbness of the trump years harder than "tim apple"

― Clay, Monday, November 28, 2022 2:20 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lmao tim apple goes in the greatest hits for sure

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link

"All Boring had to do was bring its machine (named Godot) and start digging, former Maryland officials said. But months, and then years, passed. Maryland was waiting for Godot." pic.twitter.com/XOGQqeY9AS

— Eliot Brown (@eliotwb) November 28, 2022

This is what’s so infuriating about Mr. Epic Reddit Man. He all but announces he’s ripping people off by naming it “Godot” — you can just see him tittering to himself — and still people are too dense to catch on because they’re content to simply bask in his imaginary glow.

Chris L, Monday, 28 November 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

And Marilyn LockHEED

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 28 November 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

Did you know Apple puts a secret 30% tax on everything you buy through their App Store? https://t.co/LGkPZ4EYcz

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 28, 2022

did Elon seriously pay $44,000,000,000 for Twitter without knowing this

frogbs, Monday, 28 November 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

shh its a secret

lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link

this might be giving him too much credit, but 1) of course he knows 2) that is a tweet designed to go viral with the help of people who think he's stupid. trump was good at that.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 28 November 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

He will be talking himself into pulling the iOS app entirely by the end of the day

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 28 November 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

ALL HANDS ON DECK MEMO:

ALL TEAMS IMMEDIATELY REQUIRED TO DESIGN NEW OPERATING SYSTEM AND APP STORE, TO LAUNCH FOR CHRISTMAS ROLLOUT. APP STORE MUST BE EXTRA BASED, WAY COOLER THAN APPLE'S. BY THE TIME YOU FINISH READIN THIS YOU HAVE 15 MINUTES TO SEND ME SOME CODE.

lol yes

sleeve, Monday, 28 November 2022 20:00 (one year ago) link

The dangerous thing about this guy is he thinks there is nothing that can happen to him he can't bully/buy his way out of, and so far he hasn't really been proven wrong.

Chris L, Monday, 28 November 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link

He was notably unable to bully his way out of spending way too much money to acquire Twitter, Inc!

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 28 November 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link

Yes, but he's pivoted to simply breaking it (because who cares, "X" will be the everything app), firing thousands of people, not paying whole countries' worth of other employees, and upending scores of other peoples' ability to promote their work. Didn't exactly learn his lesson.

Chris L, Monday, 28 November 2022 20:15 (one year ago) link

It would be funny if Tim Cook replied to that Elon Musk tweet with something like "Sure, Elon, whatever. Now pay the $8, er I mean 30%"

o. nate, Monday, 28 November 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

this might be giving him too much credit, but 1) of course he knows 2) that is a tweet designed to go viral with the help of people who think he's stupid. trump was good at that.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, November 28, 2022 1:54 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

normally I'd say yeah but everything he's done since buying Twitter implies he really is that dumb

frogbs, Monday, 28 November 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

All these rich people know one another right? Are they laughing at him? Are they ignoring him?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 November 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link

NEW: Documents show why Apple pulling its Twitter ads is devastating for Elon Musk: In the first quarter of 2022, Apple was Twitter's top advertiser, accounting for nearly $50M in revenuehttps://t.co/h9TWjdwFoH

— Faiz Siddiqui (@faizsays) November 28, 2022

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Monday, 28 November 2022 22:01 (one year ago) link

Ruh-roh

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 28 November 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link

no pocky for kitty

Tracer Hand, Monday, 28 November 2022 22:06 (one year ago) link

meanwhile back in the streets:

A man and his son are in a car accident. The man is killed instantly. His son is rushed to the hospital. The surgeon says “I can’t operate on this patient, he is my son”. The car then crashes through the wall of the operating room, killing everyone. How is this possible? (Tesla)

— RiderToast, scab resident destroyer (@RiderToast) November 28, 2022

mark s, Monday, 28 November 2022 22:14 (one year ago) link

iiuc this is saying twitter's loans could be contingent on not doing something like "getting kicked out of the app store"? that would be funny.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, November 28, 2022 2:24 PM (four hours ago)

nah, bonds/loans are completely different from merger agreements. even under the merger agreement, apple kicking twitter off the app store now would be a muddled set of facts for an MAE - arguably elon's actions leading to all of twitter's major advertisers cutting spending would have been the MAE since that actually impacted revenue, an apple ban would be a bit late to the show. but those provisions of the merger agreement ceased to matter on october 28th. the bond indenture is concerned with a different purpose - it's designed not so much to make sure twitter operates in a business as usual way, as the merger agreement, but to preserve twitter's lenders position in the capital structure / claims on twitter's assets in case of insolvency, which elon tanking twitter's revenue doesn't really touch.

, Monday, 28 November 2022 23:41 (one year ago) link

are loans like that contingent on *anything*?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 28 November 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link

i get that they're not contingent on the literal terms of the merger agreement, but are they likely to be contingent on terms like "self-inflicted MAE" or key man risk or whatever?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 28 November 2022 23:54 (one year ago) link

If a loan agreement is based on using stock as collateral it would certainly include provisions that cover what happens if the stock plummets in value.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link

contingent is maybe the wrong word, since musk already got the money. to answer your question though, loans like the ones twitter allow lenders to call an event of default (and demand their money back) if twitter does things that imperil the lenders claims on twitter's assets. for example, taking out more debt (which allows new lenders who are not the current lenders to have a claim), selling/transferring away assets (reduces the size of the asset pool available to satisfy the debt), sending money upstream to musk (reduces amount of money available to satisfy the debt).

in other words, the loans are about keeping money/assets from leaving out the door, but aren't concerned at all with making sure the company keeps money coming in the door. this allows the company to continue business as usual, in 99% of cases and which is what rational companies are interested in doing, but also allows for seppuku in public, which appears to be elon's strategy?

, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link

If a loan agreement is based on using stock as collateral it would certainly include provisions that cover what happens if the stock plummets in value.

― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, November 28, 2022 7:01 PM (twelve minutes ago)

a loan that uses stock as collateral, or a margin loan, is not available to companies generally, but usually is available to individual lenders. elon was originally penciled in for a margin loan to buy tesla, but was able to drop that part of the financing package after convincing his buddies to chip in. if he had taken out a margin loan on his tesla shares as originally contemplated, this thread would be about 3x more fun, given where tesla's stock price has traded since oct. 28th.

, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link

Wonder if some banks are going to consider defining key, knowledgeable employees as assets for loan collateral purposes

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link

like if Elon Musk had borrowed $13 billion to buy, say, a mining concern, based in part on a business case for future cashflows from the mine, and then after closing decided to detonate a dirty bomb inside the mine, a lender might reasonably default, right?

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

*declare him in default

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 00:24 (one year ago) link

also, re: MAC, a MAC is notoriously hard to establish in delaware. there has only been MAC in history, and it was big:

Then, during the post-signing period, Akorn experienced consecutive year-over-year declines in quarterly revenue. Akorn’s operating income was down 84, 89, 292, and 134 percent, respectively, in the four quarters after it signed the merger agreement. Akorn’s revenue was down 29, 29, 34, and 27 percent, and earnings per share were down 96, 105, 300, and 170 percent. Akorn’s stock price dropped from $32.13 per share before signing to between $5.00 and $12.00 per share after signing. Commenting on Akorn’s financial decline, Chancellor Stine remarked:

Akorn’s dramatic downturn in performance is durationally significant. It has already persisted for a full year and shows no sign of abating. More importantly, Akorn’s management team has provided reasons for the decline that can reasonably be expected to have durationally significant effects.

Not only had Akorn’s financial situation “dropped off a cliff,” Fresnius soon also learned of serious deficiencies in Akorn’s data integrity processes. Dramatically, these issues were first identified in an anonymous whistleblower letter. Upon review of the letter, Fresnius performed its own investigation. Fresnius discovered that Akorn was “in persistent, serious violation of FDA requirements” and had “a disastrous culture of noncompliance.” The investigation by Fresenius also uncovered the possible use of fabricated data in Akorn’s FDA submissions. Additionally, as soon as the parties signed the merger agreement, Akorn had canceled regular audits, assessments, and inspections of known problems.

Upon these findings, Fresnius attempted to terminate the merger agreement. Akorn argued that the merger agreement should be specifically enforced. Fresnius counterclaimed, seeking a ruling that it properly terminated the merger agreement. The rest, as they say, is history.

The court determined that the unexpected and nonstop drop in Akorn’s business performance constituted a “general MAE” (that is, the company itself had suffered an MAE), and that because Akorn’s representations of regulatory compliance were not true and correct, the deviation between the as-represented condition and its actual condition would also result in an MAE.

so far nobody's leaked how much revenue twitter has lost so far, but i bet it'd give the above a run for the money. after all, twitter did $5B in revenue in 2021, $4.5B of which was from advertising. unfortunately, musk's own goals are happening after musk actually closed the deal, when the MAC stopped mattering. twitter did a pretty good job of making sure money kept on coming in the door while it was waiting for musk to close the deal so it avoided the MAC!

, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 00:24 (one year ago) link

Wonder if some banks are going to consider defining key, knowledgeable employees as assets for loan collateral purposes

― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, November 28, 2022 7:22 PM (two minutes ago)

the problem is, you can't really sell an employee in the bankruptcy auction process for cash to settle a debt... not yet anyway. maybe a bank will find a way?

, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 00:28 (one year ago) link

we already call them human capital!

rob, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 00:30 (one year ago) link

Yeah I guess calling an employee a bankruptcy asset is less relevant than proposing that Elon has in fact caused damage to Twitter's primary asset (Twitter) by firing over half of the people who made it work and making 1/3 of the rest quit

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 00:33 (one year ago) link

hence the dirty bomb analogy

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 00:33 (one year ago) link

idk if I were lending money to someone to buy a software company I would make them covenant to offer experienced technical staff sizable retention incentives

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 00:34 (one year ago) link

This is what’s so infuriating about Mr. Epic Reddit Man. He all but announces he’s ripping people off by naming it “Godot” — you can just see him tittering to himself — and still people are too dense to catch on because they’re content to simply bask in his imaginary glow.
― Chris L, Monday, November 28, 2022 2:26 PM (five hours ago)

i mean, this literally is

https://i.ibb.co/M27DZ8t/image.png

, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link

also didn't musk admit that the hyperloop was lobbed over the wall for the express purpose of defeating california's high speed rail proposal? seems like the boring company is the same stratagem. the playbook is old - see ford/gm convincing cities to pave over light rail and train in the 40s/50s in favor of the auto-mobile and a car for every family. the car needs to be destroyed!

, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 00:41 (one year ago) link

agree

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 00:53 (one year ago) link

idk if I were lending money to someone to buy a software company I would make them covenant to offer experienced technical staff sizable retention incentives

― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, November 28, 2022 7:34 PM (seventeen minutes ago)

it's often the case that companies get bought so the buyer can fire staff and pocket more money for themselves, and that's the whole incentive for buying the company. it's the private equity leveraged buyout playbook. that usually takes course over several months/years though, a controlled burn with plenty of backstops, not in just a few weeks like here!

, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 00:54 (one year ago) link

Do the banks actually get paid in the end tho when your Guitar Centers or Toys R Uses finally go under

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 00:55 (one year ago) link

i'm not an expert there but my understanding is that by the time a company is finally circling the drain, a lot of its debt will have been sold and resold until it ends up in the hands of distressed debt investors, who chiefly specialize in bringing guns to a knife fight.

the fact that elon's underwriting banks here still hold the debt is extremely unusual and is more a factor of how drastically the macro debt markets have deteriorated since the deal was struck back in march rather than anything elon did. but of course, elon's actions haven't helped matters at all.

, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link

Oh yeah good point I forgot that part of this colossal fuck-up

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link

Guitar Center has been "circling the drain" for going on 20 years now

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 02:48 (one year ago) link

Elon fanfic is hilarious

It would be insane if it turns out @elonmusk had a long game of buying Twitter- knowing apple & Android would drop him- to launch a secret phone he had made two years ago, making his $44B Twitter investment into a $300B phone company..

— Jason “Storm Chaser” Nelson (@Storm4Congress) November 28, 2022

lol wtf, how would massively overpaying for twitter have any relevance to building a phone?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

4d chess, maaaaaan

sleeve, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link

44b chess

lag∞n, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link

fanboys should just write a horny Miami bass paean to Musk at this point, cos that's about the level of their obsession atm

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 15:41 (one year ago) link

"we like the cars that go boom"

sleeve, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link

A lot of people were like that with Trump too. I seem to recall Mr. Dilbert saying all the Putin stuff was just to earn his trust so he could stab him in the back later

frogbs, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link

lol sleeve

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link

Same energy as Elon and Tesla

“I will not accept that it’s a highly dangerous road”
From ITN archives. pic.twitter.com/snILgnwvPi

— Stephen R Jones 🇺🇦 (@Meliden) November 28, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

Hmmmmmmmmhttps://t.co/6ELisTqFcq pic.twitter.com/mDIP31Y0Eg

— Ryan Mac 🙃 (@RMac18) November 29, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link

ok!

Elon Musk said that Twitter will unveil three verification badge colors: blue, gold, and gray. Blue will be reserved for individuals (both those paying for Twitter Blue and verified individuals of interest), gold for companies, and gray for government. https://t.co/LxlVrq9IPm pic.twitter.com/xBMDA3rR64

— IGN (@IGN) November 29, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

where's the brown badge

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

I expect to be assigned a yellow six-pointed star

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link

Sorry meant to post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LmvAUmvLA4

The Dark End of the Tweet (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

Musk also said that all verified accounts will be "manually authenticated" before the check appears on the profile.

hows he planning to do this since he fired everyone

lag∞n, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link

he didn't say how long it would take

6-7 month wait time

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link

you tweet at him and ask for verification and he runs it past catturd2

mh, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:59 (one year ago) link

NEW: Email from Elon to Twitter engineers and designers: "Anyone writing software or doing design should be on the 10th floor of SF HQ. It is intended to be dense and intense. Thanks, Elon."

— Zoë Schiffer (@ZoeSchiffer) November 29, 2022

dense and intense famously the friends of computer programming

lag∞n, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link

i am dense and intense

ciderpress, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link

get to the 10th floor asap

lag∞n, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

lol just go have a lan party in whatever stupid house you have Elon

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link

It smells funny in there

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link

https://thenerdstash.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/duct2.jpg

, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link

How much will it cost to get one of those awesome Herschel Walker badges? #onethread

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link

Starting to think Elon paid 44m for Twitter NFT

“dense and intense” is also how ppl describe Elon

castanuts (DJP), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 03:20 (one year ago) link

https://i.ibb.co/hLSfFZF/Fis-N0-Zv-VUAAAq-Bx.jpg

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 04:14 (one year ago) link

I doubt Buddah would think Musk is correct

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

underrated weird thing about that photo is the mirror behind the table just reflecting the lamp and whatnot

lag∞n, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

seems fine

Breaking news: The EU has warned Elon Musk that Twitter could be banned in Europe unless the billionaire abides by its strict rules on content moderationhttps://t.co/lbFJfnvrwb pic.twitter.com/w6r3bQmJwv

— Financial Times (@FinancialTimes) November 30, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link

Stop being Woke, Europe!

Lol saw one of his fanboys say "WELL TWITTER IS BASED IN US SO EUROPEAN LAW DON'T MATTER".

Be amazed if he doesn't adopt that hilarious legal reasoning only to dirty delete tweet after his lawyers msg him

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

Are you serious?! pic.twitter.com/7QPkHXhT4E

— Eli Erlick (@EliErlick) November 30, 2022

, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link

thats bigotry against high net worth individuals

lag∞n, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 22:32 (one year ago) link

Money is speech, therefore taxes are censorship. And you can't advocate for censorship on Elon's Free Speech Bazaar.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link

(how does he tweet with a locked account?)

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

in many cases theyll unlock you once you delete the naughty tweet

lag∞n, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link

you can see at the bottom there it says proceed to twitter to fix the issue with your account

lag∞n, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link

ha wow weird

Good conversation. Among other things, we resolved the misunderstanding about Twitter potentially being removed from the App Store. Tim was clear that Apple never considered doing so.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 30, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link

uh, whose misunderstanding, now?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 23:40 (one year ago) link

WHO is Elon musk?

In geography, My World

In reality, My Life

In history, My King

In mathematics, My Solution

In mythology, My god

In astronomy, My Universe

If I'm Blind, He's Light

If I'm Hungry, He's Food

If I'm sick, He's Medicine

For Me, He's Everything

— Wikram (@Vikram_RMFC) November 27, 2022

, Thursday, 1 December 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link

He's Food

ciderpress, Thursday, 1 December 2022 00:40 (one year ago) link

lol that Tweet means nothing and Apple is not fond of conversations being made public even meaningless ones

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 1 December 2022 00:44 (one year ago) link

if musk and apple do get in a fight about the 30% thing it's going to be a lot of

https://clickhole.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/dnmtn4ksijwyep0xmljk.jpg

but it will be worse than that because he'll make the points in such a divisive and ineffective way that he'll strengthen apple's position.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 1 December 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link

If I'm Hungry, He's Food

Toast?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 1 December 2022 21:28 (one year ago) link

https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2018/03/cook-muskrat-wild-dishes-1938/

rob, Thursday, 1 December 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link

wow ^

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 1 December 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link

I didn't actually read that at all, hope that wasn't a mistake...

rob, Thursday, 1 December 2022 22:08 (one year ago) link

I don't know the ins and outs of the severance agreements, but this is a good letter.

So here's the thing. You can only violate people's legal rights and your own word so far before they lawyer up and come after you.

I really do hope Musk changes his mind and does the right thing - the employees deserve that. But it'll be fun as hell if he doesn't. pic.twitter.com/VA04hFDVBX

— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) December 2, 2022

assuming there is some kind of standing for the employees to enforce an agreement they weren't party to (which it seems like there is from the letter?) then the fact that this can be litigated by dozens of arbitration cases rather than in court(s) or class actions should be pretty lol.

that said, the specific things he's accused of not doing are not going to cost him very much (it's little things like 401k match), so he'll probably just do them and settle.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 2 December 2022 03:58 (one year ago) link

He’s so, so dumb tho

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 2 December 2022 04:12 (one year ago) link

RSU vest acceleration at $54 per share sounds expensive

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 2 December 2022 04:55 (one year ago) link

that could be 15% of someone's salary or 500%

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 2 December 2022 04:57 (one year ago) link

for engineers 50/50 cash/stock is the mean average, and the mean average cash pay is about 200k/year = 50k/quarter.

so if he owes 3000 engineers a quarter of stock, that's ballpark low hundred millions. they're not all engineers though, so it's probably less than that, maybe high tens of millions. not nothing but not going to be his downfall.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 2 December 2022 06:21 (one year ago) link

sure, but that is more than 401k match. And is the 50/50 mean at $54 or a lower price?

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 2 December 2022 06:43 (one year ago) link

Also kinda depends on what his net worth is by the time the case settles

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 2 December 2022 06:50 (one year ago) link

Who is spraying Musk in Kanye's photo? Is it Epstein?

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Friday, 2 December 2022 08:30 (one year ago) link

$54 is the merger price (i.e. the price elon paid for all of twitter's shares) so it makes sense.

imagine the 50/50 split is the average for hires since twitter was a public company, but if you were employee #15 or whatever, you are probably a millionaire many times over, even before the acquisition - same if you were early in the door at any other bigtech company

, Friday, 2 December 2022 11:55 (one year ago) link

assuming there is some kind of standing for the employees to enforce an agreement they weren't party to (which it seems like there is from the letter?) then the fact that this can be litigated by dozens of arbitration cases rather than in court(s) or class actions should be pretty lol.

that said, the specific things he's accused of not doing are not going to cost him very much (it's little things like 401k match), so he'll probably just do them and settle.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, December 1, 2022 10:58 PM (yesterday)

this is the heart of it - the merger agreement specifically disclaims any twitter employee from enforcing the provisions of 6.9 (nice) via 6.9(e) (and 9.7), but the delaware court of chancery is a court of equity, not a court of law, where famously "he who comes into equity must come with clean hands", etc. etc.

is it a winning argument? i have no clue, maybe it feels a little odd that just a month ago the court of chancery was being lauded for holding elon to the letter of the law of the contract but would now be expected to look past the letter of the law of the contract (granted to enforce other parts of the contract that elon is breaching), but in both cases you have a breaching musk, so maybe it's not that weird

, Friday, 2 December 2022 12:25 (one year ago) link

addendum: i forgot that this guy on twitter is going to arbitrate these claims, so it's likely not going to end up in the delaware court of chancery. but i'm assuming the arbitrators will be asked to apply delaware law. who knows! i am out of my depth here.

, Friday, 2 December 2022 12:33 (one year ago) link

Who is spraying Musk in Kanye's photo? Is it Epstein?

― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Friday, December 2, 2022 3:30 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

ari emanuel, dont think kanye was intending it to be incriminating or anything just clowning elon, account got suspended lol

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 12:38 (one year ago) link

I opted out of binding arbitration fwiw (always do) but afaik of the 3000+ people he fired on nov 4 they couldn’t find anyone who did.

sure, but that is more than 401k match.

This is true. I don’t think they’ll get much more than 401k match if this actually ends up in arbitration though.

And is the 50/50 mean at $54 or a lower price?

At the time of joining. 54 is probably pretty close to the average joining price weighted by employee though. It was nearly 80 in 2001 when Twitter added like 2000 employees.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 2 December 2022 12:48 (one year ago) link

Big Lincoln project energy from that lawyer though. Hope he’s pro bono.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 2 December 2022 12:51 (one year ago) link

wow so much for free speech

Kanye West was suspended from Twitter after he tweeted an image of a swastika inside the Star of David. Elon Musk said the post violated the platform's rule against inciting violence. The tweet was deleted shortly before West's account was shut down. https://t.co/Fq5ADz5YAE

— The New York Times (@nytimes) December 2, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 12:54 (one year ago) link

but in both cases you have a breaching musk

thx I will be haunted now by images of a breaching Musk.

Demand letters can be fun especially when recited as holden caulfield. let a zillion jams arbs be fruitful and multiply lol xp

breaching musk lol

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Friday, 2 December 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link

are the brands coming back yet pic.twitter.com/QXYv97HTjc

— Peter Adams (@PatchAdams03) December 2, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link

are ye winnin' 'lon

nashwan, Friday, 2 December 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link

So, so disruptive.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 December 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link

Going according to plan, making sure Nazism is normalized before the 2024 elections really ramp up.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 2 December 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link

tbf i dont think putting nazism front and center is really what you want, nazis have a pretty bad rep, dont see the upside there

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

One would think, but the modern day GOP doesn't exactly seem to be rushing to distance themselves from it, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 2 December 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

fwiw many of them are mcconnell just gave a very critical speech alluding to trump meeting with those anti semites, and even for those who arent it doesnt mean its a politically winning proposition it just means that they are either a. themselves fully radicalized or b. have been put in a tough spot where they dont want to alienate their more radical supporters but also have to worry about people who still think nazis are bad getting turned off

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link

Push back from McConnell et al. boils down to "please don't make me support these Nazis."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 December 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

They want you to dog whistle Nazi/Hitler support, not full-throated yell it

Nazis have spent the last two decades trying to rebrand themselves as not actually Nazis while still being Nazis

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 December 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

even from the pov of the radical right wing project which prob has less of a electoral focus than say the republican party embracing nazism just seems a bridge too far, theres no reason to be specifically a nazi when you can just be a non denominational racist piece of shit, tho its prob an unavoidable byproduct of mainstreaming antisemitism generally

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link

ari emanuel, dont think kanye was intending it to be incriminating or anything just clowning elon, account got suspended lol

― lag∞n, Friday, December 2, 2022 6:38 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Well, he might have been intending it to be incriminating. Ari Emanuel recently wrote an op-ed headlined "Business silence on Kanye West’s anti-Semitism is not an option," and Kanye called him out on InfoWars.

jaymc, Friday, 2 December 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

ah ok in retrospect i shouldve reflected upon aris jewishness

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link

#protip

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 2 December 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

yeah hes been mentioning ari emanuel in a lot of his rants lately, no question he knows its him imo

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Friday, 2 December 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link

You know Twitter is being fair when extremists on far right and far left are simultaneously upset!

Twitter aims to serve center 80% of people, who wish to learn, laugh & engage in reasoned debate. ❤️

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 2, 2022

Twitter is best when both Nazis and Jews are upset

frogbs, Friday, 2 December 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

both people who want to kill and people who dont want to be killed are mad at me

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

eat, pray, learn, laugh & engage

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Friday, 2 December 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link

Just listened to Elon Musk speak for about 2.5 hours on a Twitter space and this is probably the biggest takeaway: https://t.co/fti9al3618

— Ryan Mac 🙃 (@RMac18) December 4, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 4 December 2022 00:55 (one year ago) link

oh my god, he brought in weiss

Elon Musk is speaking on a Twitter Space right now about the opening up of the so-called "Twitter Files." He claims he gave unfettered access to emails and documents to Matt Taibbi, Bari Weiss and at least one other person.

— Ryan Mac 🙃 (@RMac18) December 3, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 4 December 2022 00:57 (one year ago) link

funny to get opinion writers to make sense of a huge document cache

lag∞n, Sunday, 4 December 2022 01:00 (one year ago) link

one of my favorite new searches is tesla investors replying to elon's tweets and begging him to shut up pic.twitter.com/MYh5WmFoDv

— Ashley Feinberg (@ashleyfeinberg) December 4, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 4 December 2022 01:27 (one year ago) link

lmao bari

mh, Monday, 5 December 2022 04:21 (one year ago) link

at least one other person!!!

mh, Monday, 5 December 2022 04:22 (one year ago) link

his comment on Assange the other day reminded me he has no attention span, isn’t really tuned into politics, and may think Julian is the name of the trans person living with his ex

mh, Monday, 5 December 2022 04:24 (one year ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2022 04:25 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk claims risk of his assassination is 'quite significant' https://t.co/chc44A0acp pic.twitter.com/9zzz2DgCGn

— New York Post (@nypost) December 4, 2022

, Monday, 5 December 2022 11:50 (one year ago) link

lol lets go

lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2022 12:45 (one year ago) link

Don't worry this is just a simulation.

nashwan, Monday, 5 December 2022 13:13 (one year ago) link

Maybe it's just me but things are starting to feel a little
https://theultimaterabbit.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/boogie-nights-thomas-jane-photo.jpg
at this point

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 December 2022 13:39 (one year ago) link

Get some sleep Elon.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 5 December 2022 13:48 (one year ago) link

the risk of elon musk's assassination is not significant enough imo

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 December 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link

otm

lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2022 15:17 (one year ago) link

the super rich should be made to think at least a little bit

lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link

twitter playing the yoko role in the minds of tesla fanatics

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 5 December 2022 15:21 (one year ago) link

https://toyanimal.info/wiki/Pink_flabby_whalefish

| (Latham Green), Monday, 5 December 2022 16:05 (one year ago) link

Tesla stock having yet another bad day I see? Lovely.

bit high, bitch (gyac), Monday, 5 December 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link

it had a lil rally a few days ago and is now giving it back ah well

lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link

crazy that ~3 years ago it was at $15

lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link

and https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-cuts-dec-model-y-output-shanghai-plant-by-over-20-versus-nov-sources-2022-12-05/

the tesla response (they don't have a PR deparment lol) was "this is false news".

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 5 December 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

but I thought the advertisers were coming back to Twitter!! I know that has fuck all to do with Tesla but neither does anything related to their stock price.

frogbs, Monday, 5 December 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

that article doesnt mention it but apparently theres been a lot of bad press re tesla quality and safety in china

lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

Mon
Take Apple to task

Tue
Test Starship's Raptor 2 engines

Wed
Announce machine/brain interface human trials in <1 year

Thu
Deliver first 500-mile range $TSLA Semis

Fri
Reveal how politicians control MSM & social media

That's *some of* @elonmusk 's week.

What did you do?

— James Stephenson (@ICannot_Enough) December 2, 2022

Kings of yore had to pay their obsequious hangers on at least.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 5 December 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link

that guy would pay extra for twitter blue

mh, Monday, 5 December 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

Monday, take apple to task
Tuesday, rocketship go fast
Wednesday, a keyboardless bash
It's friday, make a kid

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 5 December 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

this happened in China. there was some discussion about whether this video was completely on the up and up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kf3I_OyDlI

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 5 December 2022 20:00 (one year ago) link

lol Sufjan

castanuts (DJP), Monday, 5 December 2022 20:07 (one year ago) link

That large penises are seen as desirable is just another symptom of western degeneration. Large penises are a sign of low intelligence and savage genetics. Small penises indicate high intelligence and aristocratic blood. pic.twitter.com/J0KKyGjFWj

— The Hellenist ☀️ (@The_Hellenist) December 5, 2022

AHHHHHH WHAT pic.twitter.com/H4nEqQnkJR

— Cosmic Jenny ~ ✨ (@jenny_b_3) December 5, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 5 December 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

"savage genetics" huh

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 December 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link

I that guy would pay extra for twitter blue

He can afford it, he makes at least $785.40 a month from his Tesla fan blog

more crankable (sic), Monday, 5 December 2022 21:16 (one year ago) link

20+ Neuralink workers came forward to expose Elon Musk mishandling & abuse, leading to federal investigations with a long lists of his completely stupid and dangerous decisions.

"The company has killed about 1,500 animals" thanks to Elon's lack of skill.https://t.co/0QFS71qU8V

— Rafael Shimunov is on Mastodon (@rafaelshimunov) December 6, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 04:03 (one year ago) link

one presumes that if he were more skilled, there would be a lot more dead animals

It just made me think of this:

https://morbotron.com/video/S07E10/_HfuFe_Nz77iB0f23i5L7mr3puM=.gif

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 05:32 (one year ago) link

Killing dogs might be the only way to get people to turn on him en masse.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 05:53 (one year ago) link

BTW I did work experience at a medical research lab and yeah they do not treat animals all that great, its kind of gross.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 05:59 (one year ago) link

all the small penis trolling from Grimes is kind of ironic if you believe any of what Azealia Banks wrote about her experience "collaborating" with Grimes

i mean all those ppl are kind of terrible but banks can also be (meanly) funny

mark s, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link

as soon as you hear that grimes smells like a roll of quarters you know its true

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link

living my life specifically in a way that azealia will not cross my path and have the opportunity to roast me

mh, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 16:23 (one year ago) link

feels like some law's gotta be broken here

Elon Musk has converted some rooms at Twitter HQ into bedrooms for employees as part of the "extremely hardcore" Twitter 2.0. They look like sad hotel rooms, per a photo shared with @Forbes. From me & @cfarivar https://t.co/G61HTgzFxg

— Katharine Schwab (@SchwabKatharine) December 6, 2022

UPDATE: Elon Musk terminated the contract employing the striking janitors.

"We have about 48 families out of work. And it just so happens that it’s three weeks before Christmas,” their union president said. https://t.co/RAzWmHMTPA

— More Perfect Union (@MorePerfectUS) December 6, 2022

frogbs, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

reading replies is broken for some users (not for me)

https://downdetector.com/status/twitter/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

intermittently broken for me

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link

it's happening! free us! pic.twitter.com/TZLbr2dTAL

— Atrios (@Atrios) December 6, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link

funny that i just got an error that the tweet wouldn't load when i clicked on it to go over to twitter

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

User reports indicate possible problems at Twitter

Yeah, no shit.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

Very broken for me today in terms of retrieving replies. Thought I had been "shadow suspended" at first

dell (del), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

the api is just returning a 403 and a file called error_log.json that's empty

frogbs, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

haa

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

my bots are still tweeting fwiw

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

downdetector says whatever happened is over :-(

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

start a hot news rumor on Twitter, get it going again

like a celebrity death or something

Blake Lively, Blake Lively died....that'll generate traffic and overload servers

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

I mean if the World Cup hasn't done it...

frogbs, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link

xxxp random restaurant is one of the accounts I liked best on twitter.

peace, man, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

thank u kindly

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

make a website for it

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link

i could i guess

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link

i also told someone i would put it on mastadon lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link

apparently theres one for bots not sure how that works

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

it does sounds good tho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

mastodon is a janky twitter clone attached to badly-designed protocols in 2023 websites are coming back

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 20:15 (one year ago) link

i wish i was better at computers i would build a twitter rival that uses ai to constantly change its ui based on usage patterns, it would be the worst thing ever

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

yeah that sounds horrible

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

just let the computer do whatever it wants, its computer time now

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

mastodon needs more good bots

mark s, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link

lol I was dreaming of a Twitter rip-off last night which just squashes it into a random sort of classic Winamp skins on each refresh

nashwan, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 20:25 (one year ago) link

eq sliders as a means of rating each tweet

nashwan, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link

ha nice yeah we need to bring that

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link

Ah yes

Elon Musk's business confidants are sleeping in new bedrooms at Twitter HQ that have been converted from unused offices. Musk is having one made for him. https://t.co/Y3rq9WWEtC

— Business Insider (@BusinessInsider) December 6, 2022

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link

tired: work from home
wired: home at work

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

next hot trend: indentured servitude, but with an attractive salary

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

Plus handy for a CEO with a history of sexual harassment.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 00:52 (one year ago) link

i'm finding that tweet clickthrus from newsletters (and on ilx) are breaking in chrome/mac, started during the elon era

so this latest "Twitter files" thing is, uh...they hired a lawyer to review documents before sending them to Elon. who he just fired, lmao

really amazing how these guys keep going "oh god oh FUCK oh holy shit man you. will. not. believe this shit right here, it's even more corrupt than I could've possibly imagined" before revealing something like "Twitter paid BILLIONS in federal taxes!". its real cartoon shit

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 02:53 (one year ago) link

He worked for the FBI so, you know, DEEP STATE

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 02:59 (one year ago) link

Matt Taibbi has probably never had a real job and doesn’t know what they’re like

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 03:00 (one year ago) link

NEW: Ads from roughly 40 brands, including Amazon, Uber and Snap, are appearing on white nationalist pages after Elon Musk granted amnesty to previously suspended Twitter accounts. The inadvertant placement of brand ads is fallout from new amnesty policy. https://t.co/2wAqZAkl9h

— Faiz Siddiqui (@faizsays) December 7, 2022

hahahah what you up to WaPo

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 03:06 (one year ago) link

let them fight

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 03:11 (one year ago) link

the Twitter Files stuff feels like russiagate for elon musk fans. the breathless threads, all totally incomprehensible, with the assumed shared understanding of why the latest revelation is HUGE https://t.co/SViwm3tQhY

— libby watson (@libbycwatson) December 7, 2022

lol exactly looking at taibbis replies and its all people posting popcorn gif, but i doubt any of them could explain what the scandal is

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 03:19 (one year ago) link

"Jim Baker - the Reagan guy or the televangelist? They're still alive? Why was a televangelist working for Twitter?"

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 03:23 (one year ago) link

no one should be able to work for reagan god and twitter at the same time

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 03:26 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjWDpyHXoAAl99i?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 03:27 (one year ago) link

I love the “the Deep stateness is coming from inside the building!” twist

WaPo ads are literally the only ones I now see (haven't blocked them, as I do every other advertiser, as it also blocks news stories from them)

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 04:53 (one year ago) link

Great, so does this mean Elon is going to start digging for Fauci dick pics now, too?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 12:46 (one year ago) link

Anyone else really losing track of the plotlines? This show was better in season 1.

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 13:25 (one year ago) link

i still read the recaps tho

a (waterface), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 13:31 (one year ago) link

I just gave the Open AI beta the prompt "Write a screenplay about Elon Musk and the fall of twitter"

FADE IN

EXT. CITY STREET - DAY

We open on a typical city street. The sun is shining, people walking by, buses and cars on the street.

EXT. ELON MUSK'S OFFICE - DAY

We then cut to the office of Elon Musk. He is sitting in his chair, looking out the window. He looks tired and stressed.

ELON MUSK

It's been a long few weeks.

INT. ELON MUSK'S OFFICE - DAY

He is looking at his computer, deep in thought. He takes a deep breath and then turns to his assistant.

ELON MUSK

What's the latest on Twitter?

ELON'S ASSISTANT

It doesn't look good. The stock has been falling for weeks. People are losing faith in the company.

ELON MUSK

I need to do something. I can't let this happen.

EXT. STREET - DAY

We see Elon walking down the street, making phone calls and sending emails. He looks determined.

EXT. TWITTER HEADQUARTERS - DAY

We then cut to the headquarters of Twitter. Elon is walking in, flanked by his team. He looks around and takes a deep breath.

ELON MUSK

Let's get to work.

INT. TWITTER HEADQUARTERS - DAY

We see Elon and his team working on strategies to turn the company around. They are discussing different ideas and ways to improve the company. After a few hours, they come up with a plan.

EXT. TWITTER HEADQUARTERS - DAY

We then see Elon and his team walking out of the building. Elon looks determined.

ELON MUSK

We can do this. We can turn this around.

EXT. CITY STREET - DAY

We see Elon walking down the street, with a new purpose and energy. He looks confident and determined.

FADE OUT.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link

"Write a screenplay about Elon Musk, twitter and hunter biden's penis"

FADE IN

EXT. ELON MUSK'S OFFICE - DAY

We see Elon Musk at his desk, typing on his laptop. The camera pans to a large TV screen next to him.

ELON

Ah, this is the life.

Suddenly, a tweet appears on the TV screen. It reads:

"Look at Hunter Biden's penis!"

Elon looks up from his laptop, shocked. He takes a deep breath and looks around the room, unsure of what to do. He shakes his head and then looks back at the TV screen.

INT. ELON'S OFFICE - LATER

Elon is sitting at his desk, now surrounded by several people. He is furiously typing on his laptop.

ELON

Okay, let's do this.

The people around him nod in agreement.

ELON

First, I'm going to tweet out a link to an article about Hunter Biden's penis.

The group nods in agreement again.

ELON

Then, I'm going to tweet out a link to a video of Hunter Biden's penis.

The group looks at each other with a mix of shock and disgust.

ELON

Then, I'm going to tweet out an opinion piece on why Hunter Biden's penis should be discussed in the public sphere.

The group slowly nods in agreement.

ELON

And finally, I'm going to tweet out a link to a petition to get Hunter Biden's penis removed from Twitter.

The group stares at Elon, unsure of what to do. Elon looks around the room and then back at the TV screen.

ELON

Let's do this.

Everyone in the room nods in agreement.

FADE OUT

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:00 (one year ago) link

"Musk has told employees to imagine they had a bomb strapped to their heads in an effort to get them to move faster"https://t.co/NDZsj8WgcQ

— Jacob Silverman (@SilvermanJacob) December 7, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:12 (one year ago) link

I'm not going to put that into the AI, but I can already imagine the results.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:16 (one year ago) link

Anyone else really losing track of the plotlines? This show was better in season 1.

― maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, December 7, 2022 7:25 AM (forty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this whole thing reminds me of that adage that books & radio are often more thrilling than film because you have to use your imagination to come up with things that you find scary or exciting. all Republican politics is based off these giant MacGuffins, like there's always some bombshell on the email server (that Hillary destroyed with bleach!), or there's something explosive in the laptop (otherwise why would BIG TECH want to censor it?!?), or there are all these secret underground pizza meetings that they can't produce any actual evidence of which in itself is evidence of how good they are at covering their tracks!! but they know the truth!! which I think is why this whole thing is a massive dude, not only is there no smoking gun here but it seems obvious now that all Twitter did was remove someone's nudes at the request of the Biden campaign (which is reasonable!) and had a lot of internal debate given the politically charged nature of it (also reasonable!) it ruins the illusion that there was something more sinister and overtly political going on here which of course is why they're going to quadruple down on it from now until 2032

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link

"Musk has told employees to imagine they had a bomb strapped to their heads in an effort to get them to move faster"https://t.co/NDZsj8WgcQ
— Jacob Silverman (@SilvermanJacob) December 7, 2022

or worse...imagine you're inside a Tesla

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:19 (one year ago) link

we all know he's a massive dude

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:19 (one year ago) link

If I had a bomb strapped to my head and Apartheid Manbaby was my boss I would simply E Honda myself into his midsection as violently as possible

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:27 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjYcHvwWQA8WuS0?format=jpg&name=large

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link

If Musk really wanted to make bank he would rent all those rooms at SF rates.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

who is this fucking guy's lawyer? pretty sure when you're accused of a crime the last thing you want to say is "well yeah but what about this other thing???"

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

idk if zoning code violation really rises to the level of crime

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link

well don't admit to the zoning violation

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link

he has a point though: building inspectors should be tackling the child fentanyl problem

rob, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link

have we considered zoning schools as "no fenantyl"

rob, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:56 (one year ago) link

pretty sure he fired all the lawyers, as if he'd listen to them when the other option on the table was ceaselessly shitposting

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link

i believe that in SF, as in many places, code violations (if determined to have occurred, etc.) are deemed misdemeanors. sarahell, are you lurking in this thread and can you help us?

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

regardless elon can admit to making offices into bedrooms it wont affect him, other than the city is going write him a ticket and make him turn them back into offices

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link

TBH I do think this is an overreaction, it sounds like he put beds in some conference rooms; that is weird, but he didn't do construction and turn the place into residences without permits (I don't think). and yes SF has more important things to worry about. god I hate that I just defended musk but on the list of terrible things he is responsible for, this is down there pretty far.

WaPo's statement that ads are showing up 'on white nationalist pages' or 'accounts' is weird to me. Do they mean that if you peruse the account of one of these people, you will see ads sprinkled in with their posts in their own feed? I've never seen this happen before. Do they just mean the ads are showing up adjacent to these posts in people's general feeds?

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link

idk read the article

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

who is this fucking guy's lawyer? pretty sure when you're accused of a crime the last thing you want to say is "well yeah but what about this other thing???"


He’s clearly hanging out on some interesting discords

bit high, bitch (gyac), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link

Rich people refusing to listen to legal advice seems to be a big post-Trump trend (see also: the FTX guy).

Chris L, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link

tbf elon has been doing blatantly illegal stuff his whole career and all its gotten him is the biggest pile of money in the world

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link

Musk would spend millions to get out of a fine of a few thousand. Just to make a point.

Josh those ChatGPT results are excellent. Starting to think McSweeney's Internet Tendency is probably obsolete now

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-elon-musk-could-use-tesla-money-prop-up-twitter-2022-12

i enjoyed this piece and it has some seemingly solid financial analysis behind it. but then again the whole #TSLAQ movement has been focused on pointing out how tesla's financial fundamentals are beyond shitty, but still getting carried out on a stretcher - a strong sense of "ah well, nevertheless" about it all.

still, maybe this time it'll be different? 🤞

, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 19:31 (one year ago) link

shouldve put his other companies on the plates, just my opinion

https://i.insider.com/6376b4df8faef80019a75c9b?width=1300&format=jpeg&auto=webp&quality=100,100

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 19:34 (one year ago) link

expecting the twitter cafeteria to start serving up neurolink test animals any day now

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

https://archive.ph/LM2zD

Elon Musk’s bankers are considering providing the billionaire with new margin loans backed by Tesla Inc. stock to replace some of the high-interest debt he layered on Twitter Inc., according to people with knowledge of the matter.
The margin loans are one of several options the Morgan Stanley-led bank group and Musk’s advisers have discussed to soften the burden of the $13 billion of debt Twitter took on as part of Musk’s $44 billion acquisition, said the people, who asked not to be identified because the discussions are confidential.

hah hah hah

, Thursday, 8 December 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link

how does a margin loan work?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 December 2022 14:25 (one year ago) link

Basically just borrowing against the value of existing equities, in this case Tesla stock. It gives you lower interest rates because the loan is at least partly backed by the collateral value of the assets, meaning it’s lower risk for the lender.

meaning that if musk defaults on his payments the bankers get to own his stock and ultimately tesla (and thus to pwn him)

mark s, Thursday, 8 December 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link

Interesting, thanks

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 December 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link

a margin loan was originally on the table back in april but he snookered his rich friends to pick up some of the tab so he was able to remove it from his financing package

it's riskier for him personally since his own assets are on the hook, but can be cheaper overall (esp. if he needs to inject cash into twitter to keep it afloat)

, Thursday, 8 December 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link

Does him tanking Tesla stock change anything about a margin loan?

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 December 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link

I presume it gives him less leverage in general. Blood in the water and all that.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 December 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

he needs to put up a lot more of it for the same $$$ amount since it’s worth less now

, Thursday, 8 December 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link

and if the value of the tesla stock drops below a certain agreed upon number then he has to put up more collateral, the famous margin call

lag∞n, Thursday, 8 December 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

would it be crazy to imagine that if Elon margins a bunch of his Tesla shares to prop up twitter his fanvestors might get disgruntled and sell out which would drive down the price which would get him a margin call which etc

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 8 December 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

anyway I hope Morgan Stanley ends up owning 40% of Tesla

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 8 December 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

and Twitter

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 8 December 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

teslas stock price is entirely predicated on the idea that musk is a world beating genius whos going to turn tesla into something bigger than the biggest car company in the world, the battery power company for everything, and since hes very publicly challenging the whole genius idea it seems pretty possible that telsa stock will return to a price more befitting a company of its size and profitability, say the $15 it was three years ago rather than the $400 it was a year ago or the $175 it is today

lag∞n, Thursday, 8 December 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

or maybe zero zero is in play

lag∞n, Thursday, 8 December 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk’s bankers are considering providing the billionaire with new margin loans backed by Tesla Inc. stock to replace some of the high-interest debt he layered on Twitter Inc., according to people with knowledge of the matter.

short squeeze short squeeze short squeeze

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 8 December 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

you actually want the opposite of a short squeeze if elon is borrowing on margin (short squeeze causes the stock to go up)

, Thursday, 8 December 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

i support elon

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 8 December 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

I imagine the idea of shorting Tesla has occurred to a lot of investors, both small and large, in the past six months. That space is probably overcrowded rn.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 8 December 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link

not just the past six months

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TSLAQ

, Thursday, 8 December 2022 19:08 (one year ago) link

also

Also notable is just how many dif ways $NOPE is short $TSLA via straight shorts, puts, $SARK, $QQQ. pic.twitter.com/xg8myM51La

— Eric Balchunas (@EricBalchunas) October 31, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 8 December 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

looooool

"Now, Weiss has been given access to Twitter's employee systems, added to its Slack, and given a company laptop, two people familiar with her presence said.

The level of access to Twitter systems given to Weiss is typically given only to employees..."https://t.co/3zBi3eDGJP

— Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) December 8, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 8 December 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

this is going to end with some random twit getting put on blast for joking around about working for the deep state on slack

lag∞n, Thursday, 8 December 2022 21:09 (one year ago) link

there are literally thousands of posts in there that could be the basis for a project veritas/fox news hit.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 8 December 2022 21:12 (one year ago) link

utterly insane that elon is doing this to a company he owns

lag∞n, Thursday, 8 December 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

Is it possible that he's absolutely off his fucking nut on drugs?

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Thursday, 8 December 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link

yeah

lag∞n, Thursday, 8 December 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link

it's extremely funny that The Boring Company has gone from "revolutionizing modern transportation" to "getting Elon some coffee" pic.twitter.com/U1GnoV23AH

— David Grossman (@davidgross_man) December 8, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 8 December 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link

every man woman and child who's ever used simulants thinks he's on a shitload of them

frogbs, Thursday, 8 December 2022 21:19 (one year ago) link

having to hang around and run errands for Elon is the very definition of "boring company"

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 8 December 2022 21:27 (one year ago) link

We were always being boring

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 December 2022 21:38 (one year ago) link

speaking of do you think Elon listens to music? I remember the Dilbert guy being asked this once and he was almost offended at the question. like "uhhh no I have better things to do music is such a waste of mental energy". Elon strikes me as the same sort of person. either that or he's listening to the same 3 Nightcore songs on repeat while chugging Caffeine-Free DCs until 3 AM

frogbs, Thursday, 8 December 2022 21:43 (one year ago) link

he doesnt even listen to grimes

, Thursday, 8 December 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link

I refer you to the post upthread in which Elon professes not to understand sex for purposes other than procreation.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 8 December 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link

Don't you guys remember when he wrote a song about Harambe? Obviously he has no idea what music is.

ian, Thursday, 8 December 2022 21:52 (one year ago) link

He probably likes Weezer.

Chris L, Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:01 (one year ago) link

Dubstep

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:04 (one year ago) link

he likes Captain and Tenille for obvious reasons

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link

None of these guys like anything that distracts from thinking about themselves. If he listens to anything it’s video game soundtracks, and he imagines he’s the cool hero in the game

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link

In a Guest DJ Project first, we took a field trip to the SpaceX headquarters to visit with CEO Elon Musk as the company prepares to launch an unmanned capsule to the International Space Station in 2012. Elon shares his favorite song to whistle, the Andrea Bocelli track that reminds him the world is a beautiful place and shows his sense of humor with a pick by Monty Python. Elon is also the CEO of Tesla Motors and one of the creators of Pay Pal.

Tracks
Fly Me To the Moon - Frank Sinatra
Always Look on the Bright Side of Life - Monty Python
America., expletive Yeah! -Team America World Police
Con Te Partiro - Andrea Bocelli
Santa Claus is Coming to Town

https://www.kcrw.com/music/shows/guest-dj-project/elon-musk

lag∞n, Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link

if I didn't already think he was a sociopath

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:24 (one year ago) link

ok yeah that is not a person who ever listens to music

frogbs, Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:25 (one year ago) link

one of the creators of Paypal

ugh, such bullshit that they keep repeating that line. the Paypal service already existed in the company (Confinity) that merged with X.com. he didn't create shit, he acquired it and made it the primary focus of the company

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:27 (one year ago) link

LOL

That playlist has a "How do you do, fellow kids" vibe.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link

lmao two comedy songs a christmas carol and a reference to his rocket company, not sure about the last one

lag∞n, Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:37 (one year ago) link

That playlist has a 'cthulhoid entity wearing an entirely unconvincing human mask' vibe imo. It makes me deeply uncomfortable.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:37 (one year ago) link

he wishes he were that cool

mark s, Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:37 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk: Thanks for having me on the show.

RC: “Fly Me To The Moon”…

EM: (Laughter) That’s the obvious one.

RC: (Laughs) The obvious one. Explain a little bit, why Frank Sinatra?

EM: I like the sense of possibility and it’s really inspiring. And I’d really like to fly to the moon. (Laughter)

RC: Well, I’m sure that’s going to happen pretty soon!

EM: Yeah, absolutely. You know, obviously I own a space company, I’m going to tend to like something that involves flying to the moon. You hear this song and it sounds like it’s really going to happen.

lag∞n, Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:38 (one year ago) link

whoever it was called the hosing-down pic his "glistening larval form" earned a thumbs up

mark s, Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:39 (one year ago) link

What’s the next one we are going to check out?

EM: It’s “Always Look on the Bright side of life.” And it’s from (the Monty Python film) “Life of Brian” and obviously it’s a pretty funny song because (the characters) are being crucified at the time. (Laughter) But I think it is a good reminder not to get focused on the negative things in life. And my personal philosophy is I’d rather be optimistic and wrong rather than pessimistic and right.

lag∞n, Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:40 (one year ago) link

EM: This is, “America, Blank, Yeah” (Laughter)

RC: And we should say that the “blank” starts with an ‘F’ (Laughs)

Song: “America., expletive Yeah!” – Team America World Police Theme

EM: (Laughs) Yeah, right.
That is from the movie, “Team America”. I’m a big fan of “South Park.” The shows that I watch – “South Park,” “Daily Show,” and “Colbert Report,” – those are sort of my main three ones -- they just capture a little bit of essence of America in both a good and a bad way.

RC: You can say that a little bit. (Laughter)

EM: I think it’s funny and inspiring in a weird way – a song that just kind of gets you fired up. (Laughs) It’s just cool. I like it.

lag∞n, Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:42 (one year ago) link

like a lot of Elon it has a "nerd who incessantly laughs at their own jokes" vibe

rob, Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:42 (one year ago) link

this is all very much like when Golf Magazine interviewed Trent Dilfer

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:44 (one year ago) link

I don't think he's actually heard Fly Me to the Moon

frogbs, Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:45 (one year ago) link

EM: Right. I think “Con Te Partiro” is an incredibly beautiful song.

Song: “Con Te Partiro,” – Andrea Bocelli

EM: It’s really calming. And, it’s just a really beautiful song. And obviously Andrea Bocelli is just an incredible singer.

RC: Well, when you need to be in that kind of relaxed mode or to put you in a mellow environment, is this something that you go to?

EM: Yeah, it is actually. I think that song is kind of a reminder that the world is a beautiful place. It’s an incredibly beautiful song, sung really beautifully so I think that’s why it makes me feel that way about the world.

lag∞n, Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:46 (one year ago) link

this mfr walking around the office obliviously whistling santa claus is coming to town

EM: “Santa Claus is Coming to Town.”
I personally don’t understand it, but it’s the song that I whistle the most. I don’t even realize I’m whistling it. I just go into auto-whistle and this one comes up more than any other so I must like it at a subconcious level, but I’m not entirely sure why. I could guess. It’s sort of a positive song. I mean, who doesn’t like Santa Claus? I guess it’s good to have him come to town. (Laughter)

lag∞n, Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:48 (one year ago) link

yes, I know that you are with me;
you, my moon, are here with me

Con Te Partiro is abt wanting to fuck the moon but the moon said no

mark s, Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:58 (one year ago) link

I'd believe you if you told me ChatGPT generated this conversation

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 8 December 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link

its pretty uncanny

lag∞n, Thursday, 8 December 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link

(Verse 1)
I'm Elon Musk, the man with the plan
I'm known for my cars and my rockets, I'm a self-made man
But now I'm turning my attention to the world of social media
I'm buying Twitter, and I'm gonna be the boss of ya

(Chorus)
I'm buying Twitter, it's a game changer
I'm gonna make it better, no more haters
I'm gonna tweet my thoughts and share my vision
I'm the new owner, you better listen

(Verse 2)
I'm not afraid to speak my mind, I always tell it like it is
I've got some big plans for Twitter, you just wait and see
I'm gonna make it faster, easier, and more user-friendly
I'm gonna give the people what they want, and make it shine brightly

(Chorus)
I'm buying Twitter, it's a game changer
I'm gonna make it better, no more haters
I'm gonna tweet my thoughts and share my vision
I'm the new owner, you better listen

(Verse 3)
I'm not just buying Twitter for myself, I'm doing it for you
I want to give you a platform to share your voice and be heard
I want to make Twitter a place where ideas can flourish and grow
I'm investing in the future, and I want you to come along for the ride

(Chorus)
I'm buying Twitter, it's a game changer
I'm gonna make it better, no more haters
I'm gonna tweet my thoughts and share my vision
I'm the new owner, you better listen

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 December 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link

^actual ChatGPT

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 December 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link

nice

sleeve, Thursday, 8 December 2022 23:12 (one year ago) link

i don't think the playlist is that weird, tbh. back in the day when everybody had an actual itunes library, you'd go visit your friend across the quad and their dormmate's laptop would be open and the playlist would be something like this, scrounged off of kazaa just like they got an earworm and did the bare minimum to acquire the song but didn't have any interest in pulling on the thread. track #6 on elon's playlist is probably 'star wars gangsta rap' and #7 is a weird al song (mislabeled).

, Thursday, 8 December 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link

I personally don’t understand it, but it’s the song that I whistle the most. I don’t even realize I’m whistling it. I just go into auto-whistle and this one comes up more than any other so I must like it at a subconcious level, but I’m not entirely sure why.

https://i.imgur.com/GHKbfEZ.jpg

difficult listening hour, Friday, 9 December 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link

Lol

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Friday, 9 December 2022 00:50 (one year ago) link

god i know why, if there ever was a paranoid sadistic christmas song it's that one

ꙮ (map), Friday, 9 December 2022 00:53 (one year ago) link

{movie trailer voice}

Hang your stockings

Say your prayers

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 9 December 2022 00:54 (one year ago) link

I like Neil Diamond's version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG_nqUHmEmA

peace, man, Friday, 9 December 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link

that's pretty much Violent Night

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 December 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link

i don't think the playlist is that weird, tbh. back in the day when everybody had an actual itunes library, you'd go visit your friend across the quad and their dormmate's laptop would be open and the playlist would be something like this, scrounged off of kazaa just like they got an earworm and did the bare minimum to acquire the song but didn't have any interest in pulling on the thread. track #6 on elon's playlist is probably 'star wars gangsta rap' and #7 is a weird al song (mislabeled).

ok but what were your friend across the quad's dormmate's reasons for choosing those songs when they were interviewed on KCRW about them

more crankable (sic), Friday, 9 December 2022 02:50 (one year ago) link

It’s weird to anyone who cares about music, art, or culture, in other words.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 9 December 2022 12:27 (one year ago) link

i think it's safe to say he doesn't care about any of that (other than the works of stephen king)

, Friday, 9 December 2022 12:57 (one year ago) link

he cares about tweets and in some way isnt that the ultimate art

lag∞n, Friday, 9 December 2022 13:00 (one year ago) link

YALL I AM SCREAMING I really don’t know which one he’s talking about pic.twitter.com/5CNQkpp1Z7

— 🕺🏾🪩 (@shOoObz) December 7, 2022

mark s, Friday, 9 December 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

Amazing, new head of Twitter Trust and Safety already having to battle Andy Ngo misinformation campaign against one of her own employees

Let's see if Elon chooses his actual paid professional T&S or his right wing ego fluffer pic.twitter.com/LVwWB9MXbt

— z3dster𝅸𝅸𝅸𝅸𝅸𝅸𝅸𝅸𝅸𝅸𝅸𝅸𝅸𝅸𝅸𝅸𝅸𝅸𝅸𝅸𝅸 (@z3dster) December 9, 2022

funny that elon thinks he can befriend these people

lag∞n, Friday, 9 December 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

there are few people I hate more than Andy Ngo, who earlier this year, basically called an eyeball witness to a driver intentionally hitting pedestrians during a protest a liar and incited his minions to attack her

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 December 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link

there are few people I hate more than Andy Ngo, who earlier this year, basically called an eyeball witness to a driver intentionally hitting pedestrians during a protest a liar and incited his minions to attack her

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 December 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link

this couldn't possibly be new twitter head of trust and safety Ella Irwin (@ellagirwin) letting Bari Weiss rifle around in a backend tool that clearly says "Direct Messages" in the sidebar could it? 🤔 https://t.co/qqfoKuvs30

— tom mckay (@thetomzone) December 9, 2022

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 December 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link

Three of us resigned from Twitter’s Trust & Safety Council today: @eirliani @podesta_lesley and me. Here’s why https://t.co/h05TblfGIO pic.twitter.com/iqcHvhbgms

— annecollier (@annecollier) December 8, 2022

| (Latham Green), Friday, 9 December 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link

Correct. For security purposes, the screenshots requested came from me so we could ensure no PII was exposed. We did not give this access to reporters and no, reporters were not accessing user DMs.

— Ella Irwin (@ellagirwin) December 9, 2022

How did this work, though, @ellagirwin? If reporters didn't have access to DMs, what was the process?

Did they give Twitter officials search queries to run on the DMs, and have you retrieve relevant ones?

Did Twitter officials pick out the DMs yourselves to give reporters?

— Tom Scocca (@tomscocca) December 9, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 9 December 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link

so glad I never used my gov name on Twitter.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 December 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

good chance theyve got you linked to it in their data anyway

lag∞n, Friday, 9 December 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link

google for "buttface-mcgee" and find Neanderthal

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 December 2022 16:59 (one year ago) link

pt 3 of THE TWITTER FILES is entirely dedicated to the output of ilxor neanderthal 👍🏽

mark s, Friday, 9 December 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link

greenwald already firing up the outrage machine

mark s, Friday, 9 December 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

theyre so lazy they need to do better

lag∞n, Friday, 9 December 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link

Most people's disinterest in this is enraging these guys

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Friday, 9 December 2022 18:01 (one year ago) link

cool

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 9 December 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link

hope they rage-stroke out, every last one of them

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 9 December 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

Dream of Twitter one day being broken to the point where everyone can only see their own Tweets and all recreate I Am Legend

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 December 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link

much-followed accounts that follow no one: mel brooks 👈🏽

mark s, Friday, 9 December 2022 18:33 (one year ago) link

Please stay on strike if you’re going to leave Top Gun Maverick off this list @aoscott

seriously how many of these films have you seen / heard of… for me it’s 0 / 2 ! pic.twitter.com/UxW6tJJOO9

— @jason (@Jason) December 9, 2022

Top Gun Maverick was great!

NYTimes has gone “full woke”.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 9, 2022

on cinema at the cinema twitter crossover event

lag∞n, Friday, 9 December 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link

Not only did the NYT fail to list Top Gun Maverick. It doesn't even have a comics page!

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 9 December 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link

Has anyone counted how many times this guy tweets a day?

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 9 December 2022 19:00 (one year ago) link

I love that we’ve now reached the Star Wars nerd state of “Not liking my favourite film is oppression” in record time. I’d settle for that level of bedshitting

bit high, bitch (gyac), Friday, 9 December 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link

idek who would want to be a critic anymore. a local theatre review here generated a 7 paragraph essay from someone in the production, that was reposted by like 15 other people, who had a list of demands of things the critic 'needed' to include next time and ongoing in all reviews (even though dude is on an oppressively small word count). Like they think the critic is their publicist.

and then the example above, butthurt IP fanboys hershey squirting their keyboards because AO Scott didn't think the newest Jackass should be film of the century (no shade on that franchise tho which I love).

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 December 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link

I think the thing you have to understand about twitter is there is an entire heavily monetized ecosystem that has kept itself fueled up for years on the self-fulfilling prophesy that they’re perpetually victimized by every conceivable entity in the world, and that’s elon’s market

— kilgore trout, death to putiner (@KT_So_It_Goes) December 9, 2022

borrowed Ostalgia for the unremembered 80s (MoominTrollin), Friday, 9 December 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link

J4ckass will be on my 2022 ballot (and was my first Jackass anything)

more crankable (sic), Friday, 9 December 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

Wow, you've got a lot of awesome Jackass movies (and TV shows) to catch up with!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 December 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link

I still need to see it. have loved the other films in the series. nothing makes me laugh more than Johnny Knoxville flipping a golf cart in whichever one that was.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 December 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link

That was #1

Filmed at my hometown mini golf course!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 December 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link

I really expected him to lose interest by now, and set his sights on Martian moss farming or whatever.. but if this is a manic episode, it's a sustained one. He even lives in the building now

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 December 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link

It's his new toy. He'll play with it until it's so broken it's no fun any more.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 9 December 2022 22:11 (one year ago) link

Elon is now replying in agreement to Lara Logan, who was recently banned from Newsmax for spreading conspiracies about a “global cabal” of UN officials who “dine on the blood of children”: https://t.co/6DX1xNZ2lx pic.twitter.com/jTqLhhYzUl

— Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) December 9, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 9 December 2022 23:58 (one year ago) link

It really can't be overstated just how much of a shameless liar Elon is pic.twitter.com/cpEa0Rcndl

— Wild Geerters (@steinkobbe) December 9, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 9 December 2022 23:59 (one year ago) link

Taibbi's rolling out Part 3, fwiw. All about events leading up to Trump's account being suspended. As before, all the selective screenshots are supposed to look like some big anti-Trump collusion, but clearly they just show people trying to do a kind of impossible job (monitoring election disinformation) in a crazy environment.

I don't know a single person, even Elon fellator, who gives a fuck about that tonight, lol.

they really gotta work on theatrics more

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 December 2022 01:31 (one year ago) link

the effort is very low all around

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 December 2022 01:32 (one year ago) link

why do they keep doing this on friday nights lol

Clay, Saturday, 10 December 2022 01:34 (one year ago) link

idk I used to spend my late 20s grabbing a bottle of Jamesson, inviting friends over, renting a projector, and reading Tweet threads together

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 December 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link

this is so dumb

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjlO_M-XEAI5JXZ?format=jpg&name=large

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 December 2022 02:08 (one year ago) link

FIFTY-TWO

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 December 2022 02:12 (one year ago) link

jesus fucking christ, if only there was a non-Twitter medium in which lengthier stories could be published. alas, Twitter is our only option

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 December 2022 02:12 (one year ago) link

Twitter is the perfect publishing platform to pretend to do journalism but never provide actual context or details. It's just headline after headline.

this is the JFK for this generation

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 December 2022 02:20 (one year ago) link

my head is spinning as i countenance the dense tangle of orwellian unwords like "bounce"

Clay, Saturday, 10 December 2022 02:26 (one year ago) link

Companies use internal jargon, news at 11

jaymc, Saturday, 10 December 2022 02:36 (one year ago) link

pretty easy to grift readers if they hang onto your every word, just say a company is doing something mundane and then act as if it's never been done before

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 December 2022 02:39 (one year ago) link

at least a bounced account wasn't 86'ed

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 10 December 2022 02:40 (one year ago) link

Damn, Taibbi 51'd everyone, overbearing mod behavior imo

DPRK in Cincinnati (WmC), Saturday, 10 December 2022 02:49 (one year ago) link

Elon is basically just outright making Twitter part of the right-wing media ecosystem — allowing people to say what they want, for now, but he guides the narrative. Or at least that seems to be the idea. But he can't really do that and have Twitter be any semblance of its former self. It still seems like this just ends up with a Twitter no one wants.

he'll probably die in a strange way.

hopefully at least

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 December 2022 02:59 (one year ago) link

like ironically in one of his own Teslas, hopefully

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 December 2022 02:59 (one year ago) link

Spoiler

At the end of Twitter Files 3 Mulder and Scully find Taibbi’s body crammed into a duct that smells suspiciously of Morley cigarettes

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Saturday, 10 December 2022 03:04 (one year ago) link

is he going to sue himself

NEW: Elon Musk is threatening to sue Twitter employees who leak confidential information to the press. He's asking staffers to sign a pledge indicating they've understood. Here's the email:

— Zoë Schiffer (@ZoeSchiffer) December 10, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 December 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

Shame on those acting in a manner contrary to the company's interests. Only your boss has that privilege.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Saturday, 10 December 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link

It still seems like this just ends up with a Twitter no one wants.

Going the way of Gab, Parler, et al.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 10 December 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link

yeah i'm not sure you get to be the anti-leak guy once you go full assange on your own company

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 11 December 2022 00:42 (one year ago) link

twitter blue now $11 on iphones, and three out of four features are labeled "coming soon" this is so goddamn funny https://t.co/GCJucSKEHe

— Rob DenBleyker (@RobDenBleyker) December 10, 2022

bit high, bitch (gyac), Sunday, 11 December 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link

Twitter Blue Balls

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 11 December 2022 03:00 (one year ago) link

11 dollars on ios, not iPhones, 8 dollars on web. that's just passing on the 30% Apple tax to the buyer.

koogs, Sunday, 11 December 2022 03:41 (one year ago) link

hes on one

can he say this??? pic.twitter.com/6CEXmIQ6dH

— pudding person (@JUNlPER) December 11, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 11 December 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/yhEOieaGER

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 11, 2022

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 11 December 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link

thank god we can't hear these tweets at least

rob, Sunday, 11 December 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link

So his business model is basically just ... trolling?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 December 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link

man despite how much he's always sucked, this guy has turned out to be so much worse and more obnoxious than i ever would have guessed

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 11 December 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

its something lol

lag∞n, Sunday, 11 December 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

It’s kind of amazing how not funny or clever this guy is. Just a black hole of cringe and total suck. The most pitiable edgelord.

circa1916, Sunday, 11 December 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link

He's a cross between one of those assholes that says something offensive, then slaps you hard on the back and says "come on, I'm just kidding, lighten up" and one of those other assholes that says something so stupid and not funny that you have to reply, and like a child they take that negative attention as affirmation.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 December 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link

Hope he slips and falls and hits his head and goes into a coma and nobody knows and hackers get into his account and ruin his legacy with fake tweets

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 11 December 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

That scenario would more plausibly explain what is currently transpiring than 'manic billionaire actively trying to destroy company he just spent millions acquiring'

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Sunday, 11 December 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

*billions

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Sunday, 11 December 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

Next episode of the "Twitter Files" is up, from asshole Michael Shellenberger. Same as before, shows Twitter employees having serious conversations about how to handle Trump and his threats to public order. Right-wing Twitter is reacting as usual (everyone involved should be locked up, shot, etc).

This whole thing where we're all subjected to Elon Musk's jokes as a condition of being on Twitter has strong overtones of the Vogon poetry plotline from Hitchhiker's Guide.

— Sandra Newman (@sannewman) December 11, 2022

BlackIronPrison, Sunday, 11 December 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link

haha

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 11 December 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link

lol

With the "prosecute Fauci" turn seems like he might be a couple of 8-balls away from going full Kanye and tweeting out the Protocols of the Elders of Zion 280 characters at a time.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 12 December 2022 03:33 (one year ago) link

*4000

frogbs, Monday, 12 December 2022 03:41 (one year ago) link

ya i'm kinda ll for crackpot genius billionaires actually doing interesting stuff, up until they become str8 up supervillains obv

― darraghmac, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:23 AM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

omar little, Monday, 12 December 2022 03:57 (one year ago) link

yeah like Trump there's something spooky about his straight up nihilism. like trying to fan the flames of the nonsense pedophilia accusations against Yoel Roth, a guy who was working for him until recently. or just blatantly lying about shit like "ah yes when I took over Twitter I was laser focused on taking down child porn, quite frankly it's disgusting how long they let this slide". the difference is Musk has this pathological need to be seen as funny and smart which makes him such a pathetic villain. there's none of that weird charisma that Trump has. he couldn't have an original or clever thought to save his life. he's such a completely unappealing person. even the late night shows can't find anything funny about him.

frogbs, Monday, 12 December 2022 04:31 (one year ago) link

even the late night shows can't find anything funny about him.

This part says more about the late night shows than Musk tbh.

Chris L, Monday, 12 December 2022 08:10 (one year ago) link

fuck both of these guys, obv, but lmao nonetheless

Was at the Dave Chapelle show at SF tonight and who comes on but Elon Musk!

A good 80% of the stadium boos. 18k people. and he withers. Like absolutely turns into a corncob.

“What should I say??” He says

Dave tries to salvage the situation but to no avail

— james yu (@jamesjyu) December 12, 2022

Dave chappelle brought up Elon musk up on stage at the chase center. Had to pry the yonder for this ahaha pt 1 pic.twitter.com/zCYNUf3Hhz

— Cleo PatrA (@CleoPat48937885) December 12, 2022

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 December 2022 10:04 (one year ago) link

second account there seems to have been blasted, is musk trying to wipe the footage?

devvvine, Monday, 12 December 2022 11:30 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdBga225HBk

peace, man, Monday, 12 December 2022 12:00 (one year ago) link

second account there seems to have been blasted, is musk trying to wipe the footage?

I really hope so, that always goes well

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 12 December 2022 12:37 (one year ago) link

Genuinely surprised that Chapelle’s current fans don’t like Musk. Not surprised at all that Chapelle himself likes Musk.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 12 December 2022 13:01 (one year ago) link

Did he think he would be hailed the conquering hero? This is what happens when a comedian brings up a drunk heckler and gives them the mic, don't know how Chappelle thought this was going to go.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 December 2022 13:21 (one year ago) link

Followed by frankly scary tweets along these lines:

Many battles remain, but, yes, the tide is starting to turn on the mortal threat to civilization that is the woke mind virus

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 12, 2022

The self-titled drags (Eazy), Monday, 12 December 2022 13:39 (one year ago) link

brb, got to go stock my woke bunker.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 December 2022 13:57 (one year ago) link

Imagine saying the words “ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for the richest man in the world!” and expecting not-boos

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, 12 December 2022 14:00 (one year ago) link

the guy's tax rate should be a million percent

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 12 December 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link

*entire audience boos me because they hate me*

it was the woke mind virus

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 12 December 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link

kinda ironic that Twitter's algorithm, even before he took over, was designed specifically to make guys like Elon feel like the most popular people on the planet and that concerns like "the woke mind virus" and panicking over pronouns were real things that people actually cared about

frogbs, Monday, 12 December 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link

if one were to go solely off of the Elon tweets itt, it would appear that the only people still on Twitter are creeps, conspiracy theorists, bullies and, basically, right-wing trolls.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 12 December 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link

Technically, it was 90% cheers & 10% boos (except during quiet periods), but, still, that’s a lot of boos, which is a first for me in real life (frequent on Twitter).

It’s almost as if I’ve offended SF’s unhinged leftists … but nahhh.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 12, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 14:49 (one year ago) link

Technically Dave did not specify what noise he wanted the ladies and gentlemen to make

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, 12 December 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link

I suppose he's right that SF "leftists" at a Chappelle show are, indeed, probably pretty unhinged.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 December 2022 14:56 (one year ago) link

they weren't booing, they were asking for jobs at Booooo-ring

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Monday, 12 December 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link

even chappelle was booing

mark s, Monday, 12 December 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link

Man goes to doctor, says woke mind virus must be defeated. Doctor says treatment is simple, great clown Dave Chappelle is in town tonight, go and see him. Man bursts into tears, says, but doctor, I am elon musk

— Dave Itzkoff (@ditzkoff) December 12, 2022

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Monday, 12 December 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link

Hey Elon, if it was 90% cheers then why did you stand there like an ass, helpless, until you walked off the stage humiliated?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 December 2022 15:07 (one year ago) link

Reminds of the time we opened for papa roach and limp bizkit

— eve6 (@Eve6) December 12, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 December 2022 15:07 (one year ago) link

genuinely funny that Musk genuinely did not anticipate getting booed like that and therefore had no response to it. just letting the boos win

frogbs, Monday, 12 December 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link

also funny that they're nuking the accounts posting the videos which makes it abundantly clear to people that Elon is embarrassed by this before they've even seen the videos

frogbs, Monday, 12 December 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link

Fake boos!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 December 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link

hes over confident from the media cupping his ball ten years straight and becoming the richest man in the world, thinks he can do no wrong, as evidenced by all of his recent behavior

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link

yeah it's insane that this dude's PR team was able to actually successfully frame him in the media as the one selfless billionaire doing cool new stuff and he threw it all away to be Ian Miles Cheong's top reply guy (along with 44 billion dollars lmao)

frogbs, Monday, 12 December 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link

"this tweet contains potentially sensitive content" jesus christ just take the L man

put this in a gold frame in a gallery https://t.co/hU4DIhbvLc pic.twitter.com/yRYFkO91nH

— Donna Respirator (@AliceAvizandum) December 12, 2022

frogbs, Monday, 12 December 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

Twitter Files Part 56231: The Elon Booing Event Decision

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Monday, 12 December 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link

"Internal communications show Twitter employees worried that their boss would become emotional and 'fire everyone' if the video was not suppressed."

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Monday, 12 December 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

yeah it's insane that this dude's PR team was able to actually successfully frame him in the media as the one selfless billionaire doing cool new stuff and he threw it all away to be Ian Miles Cheong's top reply guy (along with 44 billion dollars lmao)

― frogbs, Monday, December 12, 2022 10:15 AM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

notable that he was pitched as saving humanity via electric cars and rocket ships and now hes saving humanity by combating the woke mind virus, his whole schtick is so superficial, and it worked beautifully, when primarily directed at the business press lol

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link

Chappelle should pivot to working corporate events exclusively

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Monday, 12 December 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link

chapelle in his prime wouldve absolutely cooked musk if given the opportunity now hes like hey the richest man in the world my friend, sad

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link

(not to say he had perfect politics before just that hed see musk for the nerd he is)

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

"Are you ready for some COMEDY?! Because I have a surprise for YOU!"

*brings out the unfunniest dork you've ever seen*

— Cohl! Face! Killah! (@RuckCohlchez) December 12, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link

Going absolutely crazy when the stand-up comic I paid to see brings out a weird twitchy rich guy in a leather jacket and has him walk around for a while. The whole crowd chanting "more of this" at deafening volumes.

— David Roth (@david_j_roth) December 12, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link

pry the yonder?

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Monday, 12 December 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link

Mostly sad to see Chappelle not going with the energy of the crowd and turning it into an Elon roast. 'It's mostly the poors up in the cheap seats, sir.'

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Monday, 12 December 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk shouting "I'm rich, bitch," while the sound people at Chappelle's show honk a horn to drown out the boos from the crowd is one of the saddest videos I've ever seen. https://t.co/tJHFRhKU3w pic.twitter.com/SeeLSZG93h

— Matt Novak (@paleofuture) December 12, 2022

more crankable (sic), Monday, 12 December 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

this is elon's corncob moment

, Monday, 12 December 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

i think dave was conflicted cause he kept bringing up the booing which he knows will result in more booing, on an instinctive level he wanted more booing while his conscious mind wanted it to stop, old dave and young dave fight within him

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link

pry the yonder?

open the bag that their phone was locked in, to prevent them from filming and posting part of the performance

more crankable (sic), Monday, 12 December 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link

Taibbi and Greenwald are soon going to be posting about the scourge of people illegally filming comedy performances

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Monday, 12 December 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link

the musque of cred death

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 12 December 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link

Slowsquatch - https://www.overyondr.com/howitworks

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 December 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link

how it doesnt work haha

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

XPost, missed the chance to say:

“I was saying Boo-lon!”

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 12 December 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link

I was saying "Booo-ring company"

frogbs, Monday, 12 December 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

I just have to wonder, like...is any of this ongoing manic episode a net positive for him? He may be solidifying support among his most ardent fanboys and maybe attracting a little bit more human slime to his side, but otherwise he just seems to be intensely broadcasting his unpleasantness to the world and actively repelling a lot of people who previously had little-to-no opinion of him whatsoever. It basically just doesn't make sense on any human level. But that applies to an awful lot of human behavior from the past half decade+ so what the hell do I even know about anything anymore.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Monday, 12 December 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link

kind of nice we can stop humoring people who claim Chappelle is anything more than a rich bigoted asshole

rob, Monday, 12 December 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link

he's getting more and more people talking about him, which is what he really wants, even if he won't admit it

it's clear that what these dudes want is to feel important, and elon's way of doing that (everyone is talking about elon!) is probably less harmful than his peers who think they're influencing the tilt of the world by doing shadowy garbage behind the scenes

mh, Monday, 12 December 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link

Elon, that is. Dave's just a lost cause at this point

mh, Monday, 12 December 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link

Chappelle's fans understand the concept of "punching up" better than he does

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Monday, 12 December 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

Maybe Elon paid him to let him come out on stage.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 December 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link

Chris Rock came out too apparently. Weird, wild stuff.

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Monday, 12 December 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

I think Rock and Chappelle are touring together?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 December 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link

Thanks all... I clearly haven't been to a big show in a while...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Monday, 12 December 2022 16:34 (one year ago) link

lolll

Out at the comedy show having the time of my life with the 90% of the crowd cheering. They're all just out of frame, not booing pic.twitter.com/yGjqQOCTgJ

— ((Grumpy)) 🌹🇵🇸✡️ (@GolemBundist) December 12, 2022

groovypanda, Monday, 12 December 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

Where's Whiney?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 December 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

Yeah I was gonna say i am expecting Whiney to pop in to remind us that Chapelle has been bringing publicity-hounding robber barons on stage to flatter their vanity since the 80s and why are we freaking out about it now

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 12 December 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

I'm so, so, so tired of this man

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 December 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

Now he's tweeting that he must have upset the "Branch Covidians," either not knowing or caring that that phrase was invented to refer to anti-mask anti-vax invermectin cultists. But typical of Musk in taking somebody else's wordplay and getting it wrong at the same time.

ivermectin, sorry. Invermectin is a small Scottish town.

no one batted an eye when Chappelle had "Chainsaw" Al Dunlap open for him in the 80s

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 12 December 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

Where's Whiney?

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, December 12, 2022 12:13 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Boooooooooooooooooooo

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 12 December 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

3) Twitter related concern #2: Brand. The $TSLA brand is suffering from the current news flow, but the impact on the net favorability score is minimal, likely temporary (remember Uber in 2017), unlikely to affect hardcore fan who are most of the buyers in the market today. pic.twitter.com/lkvhJ6YK6t

— Pierre Ferragu (@p_ferragu) December 9, 2022

this is a slide from one of his investing simps so ignore the commentary, but is a clear drop in the approval rating of tesla among the group most likely to buy teslas in the US, and i assume that will continue to get worse.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 12 December 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

ya I read recently that his net favorability improved somewhat with conservatives (who still don't like him a whole lot) but it absolutely has cratered among liberals (the ones actually buying his shitty cars). sure glad the US government poured billions of dollars into this moron

frogbs, Monday, 12 December 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

yeah this is a total failure to know your consumer base

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Monday, 12 December 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

this is a slide from one of his investing simps so ignore the commentary

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, December 12, 2022 1:44 PM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol saying its ok you only need the hardcore fans for a company thats priced like its supposed to become the biggest car maker in the world and more

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

Tesla Patreon clearing $8 billion a year easy

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 12 December 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link

xp "However, the arrival of the Cybertruck might significantly change its ranking."

normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Monday, 12 December 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link

its funny ppl still think the cybertuck a vehicle flagrantly in violation of crash safety regulations will ever come out

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

i mean theyll prob put a truck out eventually but the public prototypes to date are absolute fantasy

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

how much car safety regulation in the US is at the state level? this feels like it could be another front in interstate culture wars.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 12 December 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

think that stuff is all federal

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 19:16 (one year ago) link

meanwhile theres three electric pickups that people are extremely stoked on already out with a bunch more coming

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 19:16 (one year ago) link

don't worry, they're going to switch to making semis for truckers!

the reviews of the semi so far are pretty bad

mh, Monday, 12 December 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link

funny thing about the semi reveal is they made absolutely no claims about full self driving cause they know the professional buyers wouldnt be falling for it

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link

Iirc they've been boasting about how much it can haul without revealing how much the fucking empty truck itself actually weighs, which will have a huge effect on capacity, road damage, etc.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 December 2022 19:19 (one year ago) link

xp huh, yeah i hadn't bothered to think about the age of their product lines as a thing but that is a weird huge unimaginable failure to understand their market space it seems to me. so much about cars (and many many things) is getting the new new.

normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Monday, 12 December 2022 19:19 (one year ago) link

I am watching a movie clips about @elonmusk's Tesla Semi - remember, the truck that was to revolutionize the transport industry when it entered the market 4 years ago 🤡

And I am going to tell you'all why it is a completely stupid vehicle. And I won't even want to talk about (1)

— Tomasz Oryński (@TOrynski) December 8, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 12 December 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link

he really said "I'm Rick, bitch"

frogbs, Monday, 12 December 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link

cars are designed to DOT standards first, i think, which are federal (hence why cars have gotten bigger in last 10 years as has been discussed on ilove cars, the need to implement crumple zones and such).

california as a state has a lot of power here though since they're a huge market and are able to hold automakers to higher standards than federal through their state standards - if a car can be sold in california, it can be sold anywhere.

, Monday, 12 December 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link

the level of competition and improvement on fit and finish/interiors etc in cars currently is crazy too, like you never want to have an old lineup but thats particularly rough now, especially when your quality lagged behind in the first place

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link

ha this thread is amazing seems like they didnt consult a single trucker or anyone who knows about them

i). Drivers sits in the middle. This makes overtaking or looking ahead more difficult. But also makes it impossible to reach out of the window to pass the paperwork or to talk with the guy in the gatehouse when you enter a port or a factory or, say, a tollbooth. (4) pic.twitter.com/5vLmgHNhP0

— Tomasz Oryński (@TOrynski) December 8, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link

A few weeks ago someone said that Elon is terrified of reliving the fall of apartheid, and it’s totally changed the way I see his posts pic.twitter.com/ENU9lY6WbI

— DEI coordinator for sinaloa cartel (@Forever_Wario) December 12, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

lol I do make a point of repeating the phrase "white South African billionaire" a lot. It helps to remember who we're dealing with.

emerald mine heir etc

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

Elon basically IS the villain demographic from movies and TV shows in the late Reagan/Poppy Bush era, when Russians got less fashionable as bad guys but everyone could agree rich white South Africans were terrible.

they have such gross accents too

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

california as a state has a lot of power here though since they're a huge market and are able to hold automakers to higher standards than federal through their state standards - if a car can be sold in california, it can be sold anywhere.

― 龜, Monday, December 12, 2022 2:22 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

also 🇪🇺. lol at anything like the cybertruck ever being sold there.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 12 December 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

Popular image of white South Africans in the 80s =

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9dmoT9AfoI

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Monday, 12 December 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

yeah feel like cali/eu tagteaming must be pretty common - like it was big news here when cali announced they were gonna ban ice engines by 2035 but really they were just aligning with the eu's decision to do the same a few months before xp

, Monday, 12 December 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link

I rode in my first Tesla this week (Uber) and the interior looked like a 30 yo Star Trek: TNG set. All the controls and instruments are in what looks like an offbrand Surface Pro strapped to the very center of the dash. So many unnecessary changes to basic car controls/functions just for the sake of reinforcing that the car was special. Needed instructions to open the door from the outside and the inside. Interesting design choice to force the driver to take their hands off the wheel to scroll through several levels of screens for basic controls (radio, comfort, wipers?) that nearly every other car company now puts on the steering column or wheel.

The Bankruptcy of the Planet of the Apes (PBKR), Monday, 12 December 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

Popular image of white South Africans in the 80s =

https://media.tenor.com/Xe2unUKcr0MAAAAC/diplomatic-immunity-diplomat.gif

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 December 2022 20:19 (one year ago) link

"The demn blex"

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 12 December 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link

xxp next gen will be dope though, octagonal wheels and “knights who say ni” when you honk the horn.

circa1916, Monday, 12 December 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link

Does Tesla have any actual automotive engineers on staff? Who thought it was a good idea to put the driver in the center?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 12 December 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link

prob elon

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link

he is a centrist, you know

rob, Monday, 12 December 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

The average Tesla driver could have their seatbelt break, get lodged in the windshield of their car, and will still go on Twitter while in the windshield and post

"hi Elon, love your cars, had a small issue with the belt today but it allowed me to have a once in a life time experience today"

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 December 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link

yeah feel like cali/eu tagteaming must be pretty common - like it was big news here when cali announced they were gonna ban ice engines by 2035 but really they were just aligning with the eu's decision to do the same a few months before xp

― 龜, Monday, December 12, 2022 3:04 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

right also the CCPA is not a million miles from the GDPR IIUC.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 12 December 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link

Does Tesla have any actual automotive engineers on staff?

"tesla engineers poached" = About 862,000 results (0.69 seconds)

All through 2017-2020 Apple, Rivian, and Ford were hiring Tesla engineers. Alan Clarke (who was Tesla's manager of new programs engineering and had been there for 12 years) split for Ford in February.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 12 December 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

my coworker has an older tesla (although maybe not old, because they never come out with new models!) and any time I ride in the back seat I have to be reminded of how to open the damn door

the design decision where holding the "door open" button rolls the window down a little bit so it can clear the frame, because the top of the window goes into the roof and not into a slot in the top of the door, is just weird

mh, Monday, 12 December 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link

Does Tesla have any actual automotive engineers on staff? Who thought it was a good idea to put the driver in the center?

"It looked cool in the McLaren F1 so it will look cool here too."

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 12 December 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

It's the logic of a 12-year old drawing their ideal Ferrari-Lambo-Space Shuttle.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 12 December 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link

the design decision where holding the "door open" button rolls the window down a little bit so it can clear the frame, because the top of the window goes into the roof and not into a slot in the top of the door, is just weird

― mh, Monday, December 12, 2022 3:46 PM (twenty-nine seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

lmao had not heard about that, think saw something similar on a review of an old lamborghini back from when they were designed by literal insane people

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 20:49 (one year ago) link

everyone's first reaction is "oh, I must have hit the window button and not the door open button" because it's unintuitive and they're not labeled. and then you end up rolling down the window on your second try

mh, Monday, 12 December 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

"tesla engineers poached" = About 862,000 results (0.69 seconds)

All through 2017-2020 Apple, Rivian, and Ford were hiring Tesla engineers. Alan Clarke (who was Tesla's manager of new programs engineering and had been there for 12 years) split for Ford in February.

I was mostly being tongue in cheek, but honestly that design choice seems to be one made by someone who knows virtually nothing about automotive design . . . or driving, for that matter.

If your point is that Tesla's best engineers have been poached, that makes sense.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 12 December 2022 20:52 (one year ago) link

someone should tell them to check out door handles xp

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link

for some reason i thought the car homer designed in the simpsons had the driver at the center, but even homer had the sense to keep the driver on the left hand side

https://media.wired.com/photos/593252a1edfced5820d0fa07/master/w_2560%2Cc_limit/the-homer-inline4.jpg

, Monday, 12 December 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link

xpost I had the darndest time closing the door in my friends Tesla. I was sure it was still open a tiny little bit, not fully closed, but I cannot figure out how to do it without him pulling the car over and showing me.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 December 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link

that called innovation baby

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link

Disruption

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 12 December 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

$TSLA hit a new 12-month low by a couple of pennies today, i think. the rally is over!

, Monday, 12 December 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

I do wonder how Tesla owners are currently feeling about the fact that they’re driving around automotive MAGA hats these days.

circa1916, Monday, 12 December 2022 21:09 (one year ago) link

Anecdotally, I don't think they care. Though I bet it puts a dent in future purchases, especially once you factor in all the alternatives out there.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 December 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link

I am seeing a lot of the EV Kias and Mustangs lately, as well as a lot of Volvos and VWs.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 December 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link

yeah theres starting to be a shit ton of evs to choose from, at least model wise not sure if a shit ton of actual cars exist yet

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link

glenn, thank you

The same worthless media liberals who never break stories, who never do any reporting, who just sit around mimicking each other every day - speaking only to and for one another in servitude to Dems - all write the same articles because they're all hive-minded empty herd animals. https://t.co/CK74mXWPJN

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) December 12, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 21:14 (one year ago) link

True

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 12, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 12 December 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

i don't think warzel claims he's a reporter?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 12 December 2022 21:16 (one year ago) link

when was the last time glem actually reported on anything

mh, Monday, 12 December 2022 21:21 (one year ago) link

the lula-jailed-by-a-corrupt-judge story -- which he was largely fed but did amplify

mark s, Monday, 12 December 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link

when he was still at the intercept lol

mark s, Monday, 12 December 2022 21:25 (one year ago) link

I do wonder how Tesla owners are currently feeling about the fact that they’re driving around automotive MAGA hats these days.

I see a Tesla with CRYPTO vanity plates every so often. I assume he loves this direction.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 12 December 2022 21:26 (one year ago) link

xp then i guess he tried to report on hunter's laptop but the intercept nixed that lol lol

mark s, Monday, 12 December 2022 21:26 (one year ago) link

We need more of that substantial conservative reporting, like the big story about schools having litter boxes in classrooms for kids who identify as cats.

circa1916, Monday, 12 December 2022 21:27 (one year ago) link

the two guys i know who own teslas are liberal guys who work in tech and were early adopters invested in musk as a tech genius. i see a ton of teslas around my area of chicago, which is mostly upper-middle-class but also generally liberal. my guess is a lot of tesla owners bought before he made his political leanings obvious and are now kind of embarrassed about it, or are oblivious of his right-wingery.

na (NA), Monday, 12 December 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link

That's the vibe I get around here, more or less the same people that might otherwise (or previously) have been driving a luxury hybrid.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 December 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link

my little bro used to be a big Tesla guy and the thing that turned him off it (besides Elon becoming a garden variety chud) is them fucking around with the turn signals. he said he could never get used to it and sold the car. I'm glad he did because I fucking hated that thing. not only did it make me feel sick every time I rode in it, it's also incredibly uncomfortable. the entire interior is made out of the same shit you see at WG&R furniture when they're trying to stage a fake bedroom.

frogbs, Monday, 12 December 2022 21:38 (one year ago) link

xp - same vibe in my (increasingly upper-middle class) neighborhood. the 'zero emissions / good for the climate' aspect is the initial motivator, but the 'look at me in my next-gen luxury car' vibe closes the deal.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 12 December 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link

the couple people I know who have had them are gadget nerds who also like futuristic junk

like, the idea of it not working quite right and being idiosyncratic is part of the appeal

this is not what normal people want from an automobile

mh, Monday, 12 December 2022 21:53 (one year ago) link

max's Read Max newsletter had a gadget review that reminded me of that type of interest, and I think this kind of sums it up
https://maxread.substack.com/p/the-worlds-stupidest-smallest-smartphone

When you use this phone in public, people will want to talk to you about it. The most common question is “what is that” or “is that, like, a real phone” or, in the case of my immediate friends and family, “Dan … why.” But I’ve handed the Jelly 2 to people and after they mess with it a little, they’re also taken in by how charming and teensy it is. They’re sometimes impressed with it, too, though I don’t get the sense that very many would consider actually buying one.

This phone is shockingly non-shitty. It is clear when using this phone that Unihertz is a very, very powerful company, filled with engineers with powerful brains; I don’t know if Apple or Samsung or Google could have made this thing. What it also means is that Unihertz is absolutely capable of making an extremely good normal phone, and that they have chosen instead to make Stupid Phone. I admire this.

mh, Monday, 12 December 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link

I think the newer ones are maybe better but the Tesla is the Stupid Car that does technologically interesting things. You're elated when it does something particularly cool. When the bumper falls off or you have to explain to a passenger for the fiftieth time how to open the doors, you shrug it off

mh, Monday, 12 December 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

Teslas are everywhere here, clearly the new BMW in terms of frequently being an easy signifier for the most despicable driver in close proximity. I don’t think a lot of not extremely online people care about what Elon musk says any more than they care the Nazis drove around in mercedes.

omar little, Monday, 12 December 2022 22:13 (one year ago) link

I forgot my neighbors who seem nice and retired-ish that have the crossover-looking one. I think they're kindly liberal types

mh, Monday, 12 December 2022 22:16 (one year ago) link

Rode in a Hyundai Ioniq recently and it felt head and shoulders more luxurious than the Teslas I'd been in.

One of my colleagues bought a Tesla a few months back and immediately had issues with his windows opening, and his killer feature was being able to have his turn signal turn into fart sounds to amuse his kid. I thought to myself "you paid $65k for this?"

$TSLA will be $30 before the end 2023

octobeard, Monday, 12 December 2022 22:19 (one year ago) link

There was a Tesla driver who would cruise past every night on the way home with their car set on the ice cream truck sound.

omar little, Monday, 12 December 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link

I was mostly being tongue in cheek, but honestly that design choice seems to be one made by someone who knows virtually nothing about automotive design . . . or driving, for that matter.

Guess who ultimately makes the design choices for Tesla?

The more autonomous a car is, the less dash info you need. How often do you look at the instrument panel when being driven in a taxi?

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 24, 2017

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 12 December 2022 22:25 (one year ago) link

xp well, that's not creepy at all

mh, Monday, 12 December 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

Rode in a Hyundai Ioniq recently and it felt head and shoulders more luxurious than the Teslas I'd been in.

This is more for why don’t you drive an EV? but if I hadn't gone with the Mach-E, the Ioniq 5 would have been the runner up.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 12 December 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link

what wld have been yr selection?

normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Monday, 12 December 2022 22:29 (one year ago) link

Greenwald is just a toxic person now. Pretends to still be a leftist that hates Democrats, doesn't mind that now a good portion of his followers just so coincidentally happen to be pronoun-mocking homophobes.

Which of course he'll hide behind "I can't hide behind who likes me" as if he isn't intentionally courting that crowd cos fuck it, getting a handjob from your readers is all that matters

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 December 2022 22:43 (one year ago) link

what wld have been yr selection?

I ordered a Mach-E GT last December and took delivery in April.

I really want to avoid general "best car I've owned" statements because I live in an area with an above-average charging network, but still I'm 100% satisfied.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 12 December 2022 22:49 (one year ago) link

I do wonder how Tesla owners are currently feeling about the fact that they’re driving around automotive MAGA hats these days.

the father of one of my best friends, as old and liberal and jewish as they come, is pissed off beyond belief. he was a musk fan until fairly recently (obv he was turning a blind eye to some bullshit along the way).

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 12 December 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

Never thought "is the owner of the company that makes my car a white supremacist?" was something I'd have to consider

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/8sV1pVk.png

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 00:03 (one year ago) link

My neighbour has one and looks incresingly embarrassed to be seen in it. It is probably not helped by the fact that it has been repeatedly keyed in recent weeks. It wasn't me, honest.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link

Never thought "is the owner of the company that makes my car a white supremacist?" was something I'd have to consider

― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, December 12, 2022 7:01 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

one would ordinarily just assume

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link

Karl Malone, chef's kiss on that little pun

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

I’ve always been a little wary since that Henry Ford character tbh

mh, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 00:33 (one year ago) link

lol yes that was perfect KM

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 03:28 (one year ago) link

Haha totally. High quality bots are fine!

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 12, 2022

more crankable (sic), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 04:15 (one year ago) link

Ok I think ChatGPT has peaked for me pic.twitter.com/zp55sDmiss

— Tim Clare (@TimClarePoet) December 12, 2022

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 07:23 (one year ago) link

Tesla down another 6% today, despite S&P being up on the day

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link

the shine is officially off

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

It's a boooo-ear market

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

Stock hit its 52 week low today

bit high, bitch (gyac), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link

i don’t think he cares about Tesla stock price or even the company all that much any more. he got what he wanted out of it (fanboys, cash, aattention) and now he’s going to leverage that to…do…something? the dynamic w/ jack and jack’s comments seem to let on that it’ll be something with crypto. going full Q now is a good way to hook some chunk of gullible people. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

better get in before crypto collapses completely next week

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 19:16 (one year ago) link

the dynamic w/ jack and jack’s comments seem to let on that it’ll be something with crypto.

Which comments are these? My apologies for being lost.

peace, man, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link

don’t remember exactly the quote but jack posted something about how twitter should’ve been a “protocol” and how Musk was the “singular person” to get this done or something along those lines. then there was some back/forth they had about the blockchain…

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

don’t remember exactly the quote but jack posted something about how twitter should’ve been a “protocol” and how Musk was the “singular person” to get this done or something along those lines. then there was some back/forth they had about the blockchain…

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

Jack’s a real dipshit. Never seen someone so checked out of the consequences of his actions in my life.

bit high, bitch (gyac), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

yeah hes the one whos really into crypto not elon, prob what he wanted to do but couldnt because it makes no sense, he did however pivot his payments company to crypto hope that works out lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

i just imagine jack meditating naked in a white room while a robed assistant intermittently comes in to whisper assurances that all is on track and reads a couple of elon’s tweets

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link

his other other company blue sky did release a social protocol thing recently fwiw, it has no blockchain tho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link

Can only assume Biz and Ev are both glad they got out ages ago

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

they're probably both freaks but they aren't mainstream famous for being freaks

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link

I do wonder how Tesla owners are currently feeling about the fact that they’re driving around automotive MAGA hats these days.

his big problem is he is losing one audience of vaguely liberal urban tech oriented ppl but he can never really capture the bulk of the maga crowd, he can troll all he wants but they don't want a small electric car, they want big ass ford trucks (not cybertrucks) and still see EVs as a pussyification thing, even pollution is a feature not a bug for some of them (see: rollin' coal)...tesla will never be macho enough

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

the blue sky stuff doesn't look terrible, but I don't know that it has any chance of catching on

mh, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link

yeah just releasing —a protocol— into the wild is hopeless, need to do like mastadon and put out an app that runs on it too

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

(see: rollin' coal)...tesla will never be macho enough

Fast forward a few years when Musk adds this feature to Teslas.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

teslas biggest problem doesnt really have anything to do with musk its other car companies releasing electric cars, theyve basically had the segment to themselves to do whatever dumb weird things they wanted

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link

he can never really capture the bulk of the maga crowd, he can troll all he wants but they don't want a small electric car, they want big ass ford trucks (not cybertrucks) and still see EVs as a pussyification thing

YES, this sums up whats been bugging me about all this. If he's decided to pivot to this crowd, what the hell for? They wont give a shit about either Tesla OR spaceX.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 20:52 (one year ago) link

elon doesn't give a shit about crypto but he knows his audience

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 20:52 (one year ago) link

I don't think it's a shrewd or calculated move to pivot to the right wing/crypto crowd it's more a matter of him desperately wanting to be liked by someone and it's pretty easy to be popular among those people if you just whine about the right things

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link

theres that but he is also actually a shithead its not a random choice of people to cater to

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link

I think I'm finally at the point where asking 'why?' about the actions of any of the inscrutable maniacs of today feels like asking 'why?' about someone forcing their entire forearm into a running garbage disposal. It's just about such a deep boredom with being alive that they've opted to plunge headlong into chaos in an effort to feel something about literally anything. What does the richest man on earth have left but to burn the entire earth.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 21:04 (one year ago) link

The ratchet effect seems to be real with the Rogan/Musk/Taibbis - they only get positive praise for something from the right and being dumb guys who desperately want to be seen as geniuses lean into it.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 21:07 (one year ago) link

I think I'm finally at the point where asking 'why?' about the actions of any of the inscrutable maniacs of today feels like asking 'why?' about someone forcing their entire forearm into a running garbage disposal. It's just about...

― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Tuesday, December 13, 2022 4:04 PM (six minutes ago)

???

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/13/technology/elon-musk-twitter-shakeup.html

lmao i guess i'm not getting the $2k of 2022 401k match they owe me then.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 21:19 (one year ago) link

lot of choice tidbits in that article

, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 21:25 (one year ago) link

He’s not the richest anymore fwiw

bit high, bitch (gyac), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 21:26 (one year ago) link

lol @ telling everyone they have to come in and then not paying rent

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 21:28 (one year ago) link

nothing in that article seems too good jeez

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 21:32 (one year ago) link

the posts are obviously embarassing on their own but seeing them all together like this is really just astounding pic.twitter.com/EBylL5kjS1

— Ashley Feinberg (@ashleyfeinberg) December 13, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 21:42 (one year ago) link

wonder how long til they miss payroll

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 21:48 (one year ago) link

it is very odd that theyre doing things like selling the kitchen equipment

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 21:51 (one year ago) link

Probably wants to move to Texas

bit high, bitch (gyac), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link

what a wanker

One message focused on first principles thinking, a worldview based on the teachings of Aristotle to reduce assumptions to basic axioms, which Mr. Musk credited with helping him make difficult decisions.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 22:12 (one year ago) link

must have skipped that step when he offered to buy twitter for three times what its worth

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link

Thought I heard that all the top Tech Bros, toxic and otherwise, were into Stoicism and such.

Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 22:16 (one year ago) link

that would make sense

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link

It’s like What’s Your Sign for them.

Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link

Stoicism is the new Mindfulness

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link

Reminds me of when the Top Mathematician would poke fun at his nemesis R. L. Moore, who had his charges in his fiefdom at UT Austin apply the Socratic Method to Point Set Topology, “which produced brilliant but quite ignorant students.” Replace “brilliant but” with whatever you want.

Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link

tl;dr but maybe something interesting here: https://medium.com/@markdery/how-stoicism-became-broicism-123f3aae6aba

Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

Repeating “woke mind virus” to myself in a South African accent.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

why has no one trained an AI with Leo's Blood Diamonds accent

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link

stoicism is good not bad. these bros will fade as others have faded before them

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 22:35 (one year ago) link

stoicism is when you grow the philosophers beard

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 22:39 (one year ago) link

broicism is pretty clever

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 22:45 (one year ago) link

When confronted with a band playing an album in its entirety, stoicism helps, yes.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 22:47 (one year ago) link

Counterpoint: Mission of Burma playing Vs.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 22:54 (one year ago) link

Longtermism is the driver behind all of this. Stoicism is just a side-effect.
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23298870/effective-altruism-longtermism-will-macaskill-future

Worth reading. This is a close match for my philosophy. https://t.co/cWEM6QBobY

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) August 2, 2022

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link

such a dipshit.

I don't want to edit everything into 280 char chunks, so here's the rest: https://t.co/eWVwDFxq7e

— jack (@jack) December 13, 2022

bit high, bitch (gyac), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 00:26 (one year ago) link

He (Jack) claims he volunteered at Gilman Street but nobody remembers him

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

lol that's so bad xp but of course

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 00:40 (one year ago) link

So this longtermism is an offshoot of so-called effective altruism, but instead of assisting people in the present it promotes the idea that "the best way to help the most people was to focus on humanity’s long-term future — the well-being of the many billions who have yet to be born."

So, you get to think you're a philanthropist while throwing masses of money at things that you believe will be good for humanity sometime in an imaginary future. How is this different from having a tea party with your imaginary friends?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 02:54 (one year ago) link

a went to neighboring nerds imag tea party but she didnt pay actual cash screw that

normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 03:02 (one year ago) link

How is this different from having a tea party with your imaginary friends?

― more difficult than I look (Aimless)

Has the imprimatur of academic philosophy’s best-compensated utilitarians

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 03:20 (one year ago) link

My imaginary friends' tea party doesn't tell me that my greed is good because eventually one day when I'm bored of cocaine and hookers I can donate my wealth to a family foundation to combat... stuff.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 03:42 (one year ago) link

"How dare these workers unionize, can't they see that I'm trying to save civilization?!" plays well to Musk's (or other social darwinists like him) own messiah complex.

Feel free to substitute in "how dare Ukraine fight back, don't they know that a European war is bad for civilization?!"

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 03:49 (one year ago) link

...what the fuck is he talking about people using bitcoin in Africa to fight censorship??!?

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 03:50 (one year ago) link

It's a weird inverse mirror of the strain of dominionist and dispensationalist theology that is argues that if god didn't want us to burn up all the natural resources then why did he put all that oil in the ground. Besides, jesus is coming to take us all home so fuck climate change.

Why conservative Christians don’t believe in climate change
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0096340215599789

Scott Pruitt Has Laid Bare the Growing Environmental Schism Within Christianity
https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2018/03/scott-pruitt-has-laid-bare-the-growing-environmental-schism-within-christianity/

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 04:02 (one year ago) link

Often wished I could be playing Elden Ring as I'm driving to work

You can play Cyberpunk, Elden Ring and 1000s of other games in your *car* with an epic sound system!! https://t.co/F25Qu6HJ63

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 14, 2022

groovypanda, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 08:04 (one year ago) link

epic

Clay, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 08:12 (one year ago) link

He's definitely not a crypto true-believer - the only relatable thing he did this year was refuse to turn up to a half hour meeting with SBF to secure $15b funding for Twitter in case he'd have to hear about blockchain.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 10:07 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/iwMNvoStrf

— Wild Geerters (@steinkobbe) December 14, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 13:26 (one year ago) link

he may not be the richest man anymore but he's still the most cringe

Oh man that would be an epic troll!!

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 14, 2022

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link

So epic.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 14:26 (one year ago) link

I thank the discourse on Elon for introducing me to the phrase 'the most divorced man on earth'. Which kinda hits it right on the head.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

Divorced from reality.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

unfortunately spacex's valuation continues to grow, so elon may not care too much that $TSLA is nosediving

https://www.wsj.com/articles/spacex-eyes-higher-valuation-in-offering-employee-shares-for-sale-11670976045

, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link

Twitter has permabanned Jack Sweeney, who ran the Elon Jets account (also banned) pic.twitter.com/0iQxQQmILD

— Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) December 14, 2022

Now it appears more accounts that track the private jets of billionaires and celeberties using publicly availble flight data are being suspended. pic.twitter.com/c7pOqRyq4k

— William Turton (@WilliamTurton) December 14, 2022

For now, Sweeney says he is operating accounts tracking Musk's jet on Instagram, Facebook, Telegram, and now Mastodon. https://t.co/iCiJ7CyI3T

— Ryan Mac 🙃 (@RMac18) December 14, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link

'A threat to my personal safety' whined Prosecute Fauci Man

nashwan, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link

lol let's bully this guy off the internet

Twitter has now blocked the ability to post a link to the ElonJet Instagram account. pic.twitter.com/qNEcn6uVDF

— Tony Webster (@webster) December 14, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

(elon, not the elonjet guy, he's good.)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

he's got kids dammit

nashwan, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 21:06 (one year ago) link

keeping this one link off twitter is the definition of hardcore engineering

, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

In other words, the same mechanism used to prevent ppl from posting the NY Post article about Hunter Biden's laptop in Oct. 2020?

jaymc, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link

tried posting it with a link shortener and it gave a spam warning when clicked

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 21:42 (one year ago) link

this just gets better and better

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 22:02 (one year ago) link

“i’m not mad i think this is all hilarious!”

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 22:03 (one year ago) link

“it was all a big joke and you all fell for it! ahahahaha!!”

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 22:03 (one year ago) link

I don't know why I've always assumed that being thin skinned would be a barrier to success. I guess having been handed success/$$$ by your doddy is perhaps comorbid with that particular trait?

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link

Update, Twitter has changed their policy on open source flight tracking-https://t.co/gHZIiCWnx4

“Under this policy, you can’t share the following types of private information, without the permission of the person who it belongs to:” pic.twitter.com/JPGdd3ZgUl

— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) December 14, 2022

bit high, bitch (gyac), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 22:38 (one year ago) link

he's got kids dammit


Admittedly, he doesn’t know how many.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 22:43 (one year ago) link

the dammit was probably in response to the realization that he has kids

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 22:43 (one year ago) link

lol this guys from total free speech allowable under the law to this insanely broad restrictive rule

You may not publish or post other people's private information without their express authorization and permission. We also prohibit threatening to expose private information or incentivizing others to do so.

In addition, you may not share private media, such as images or videos of private individuals, without their consent.

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 22:48 (one year ago) link

free speech for the dumb

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link

no "live location information ...that would reveal a person's location" would basically prohibit any live coverage of events in any identifiable location?

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 22:58 (one year ago) link

don't worry they aren't going to enforce it against everyone just people making fun of Elon. Proud boys will still be able to dox trans women

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link

i tried to read just one of the threads posted in here today and tapped out after the third "ok groomer"/anti-trans response I saw within mere seconds.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 23:03 (one year ago) link

you used to be able to report heinous posts even if you yourself were suspended. now when I try to, it says "something went wrong". not sure if this is something that changed or if being able to do it before was a loophole

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 23:04 (one year ago) link

no "live location information ...that would reveal a person's location" would basically prohibit any live coverage of events in any identifiable location?

― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, December 14, 2022 5:58 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

not sure what they mean by for media here

For media, the following are not in violation of our policy:

the media is publicly available or is being covered by mainstream media;
the media and the accompanying tweet text add value to the public discourse or are shared in public interest;
contains eyewitness accounts or on the ground reports from developing events;
the subject of the media is a public figure.

https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/personal-information

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 23:07 (one year ago) link

seems like elons public jet info should fall under that since hes a public figure

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link

i'd almost respect it if he just said 'i paid $44 billion for this and am gonna make up whatever rules i want, no matter how capricious or inconsistent'

almost

mookieproof, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 23:13 (one year ago) link

Wait Hello? How long does delay mean @elonmusk

— ElonJet (@ElonJet) December 14, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

enjoying elon's first real encounter with board lawyering

, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 23:31 (one year ago) link

Send Tuomas

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 23:34 (one year ago) link

ok man

Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood.

Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 15, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 00:58 (one year ago) link

That is a very disturbing thing that actually happened in real life

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 December 2022 01:12 (one year ago) link

making fake lawsuit claims is such a rookie move

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 01:23 (one year ago) link

my brain filled that in to "Lil Xan"

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 15 December 2022 01:37 (one year ago) link

"legal action" as in a strongly worded letter from Elon's legal team?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 15 December 2022 01:39 (one year ago) link

or maybe just saying the words legal action in a tweet

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 01:43 (one year ago) link

Musk sold more than $3 billion in Tesla stock this week. https://t.co/1qdfBSlgYQ

— Matt Ford (@fordm) December 15, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 02:22 (one year ago) link

lmao he’s gonna get fired

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 15 December 2022 02:23 (one year ago) link

so if Elon is as Trumpy as I suspect he is the reason why he banned that account is because he's planning to go somewhere soon he doesn't want people to know about

frogbs, Thursday, 15 December 2022 03:27 (one year ago) link

too bad theres elon jet accounts on every other social network

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 03:31 (one year ago) link

also he let the account back on it just has to allow for a time delay before tweeting the jet details now

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 03:33 (one year ago) link

nah its banned again lol

frogbs, Thursday, 15 December 2022 03:39 (one year ago) link

ah good stuff

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 03:42 (one year ago) link

>Get into my Tesla ready to play some GTAV
>Hit 15 pedestrians with my car
>I start up GTAV https://t.co/5RBwVraH4k

— FightClubFan22 (@Fan22Club) December 14, 2022

frogbs, Thursday, 15 December 2022 03:53 (one year ago) link

what the fuck dude

Anyone recognize this person or car? pic.twitter.com/2U0Eyx7iwl

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 15, 2022

frogbs, Thursday, 15 December 2022 04:13 (one year ago) link

just wanna point out A) he's got the license plate and could go to the cops so he's obviously hoping for some vigilante justice here and B) Teslas have cameras fucking everywhere if this guy actually did "jump on his hood" there would definitely be a video

frogbs, Thursday, 15 December 2022 04:53 (one year ago) link

we're arriving at "Elon gets someone murdered" a few months earlier than planned

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 December 2022 04:58 (one year ago) link

chefkiss.png

new contender for most brutal Elon Musk being owned by his own website moment pic.twitter.com/2slGYw7uRC

— Matt Binder (@MattBinder) December 15, 2022

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 December 2022 07:42 (one year ago) link

I don’t believe his claim that he was stalked, if the incident happened as he says then report it to the police, don’t crowd source your minions to run plates. He’s also been friendly with Ian Miles Chong who has previous for “fake anti Facebook attacks” and who has been suggesting to Elon he is now in danger from the left.

I am using your worlds, Thursday, 15 December 2022 08:50 (one year ago) link

this can only end one way

https://wolfmanscultfilmclub.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/The-Naked-Jungle-1954-killer-man-eating-ants.jpg

mark s, Thursday, 15 December 2022 09:30 (one year ago) link

somebody stalked lil nas x? i'm confused

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 15 December 2022 11:47 (one year ago) link

i assume elton is referring to his grimespawn, the wretched X Æ A-Xii

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 December 2022 12:15 (one year ago) link

the wretched X Æ A-Xii placed in a babyseat in an autodriven T$LA programmed to decoy the h8as

mark s, Thursday, 15 December 2022 12:20 (one year ago) link

like el cid but the opposite

mark s, Thursday, 15 December 2022 12:21 (one year ago) link

dic le

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 December 2022 12:22 (one year ago) link

so many levels

mark s, Thursday, 15 December 2022 12:23 (one year ago) link

whoaaaa! im whippin my musk track into a frenzy of dic le

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 December 2022 12:27 (one year ago) link

welcome to realiti

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 December 2022 14:37 (one year ago) link

so during breaks in my training class I pull ILX up and I've had this thread up and a few times I've come back from break and forgotten to minimize the tab and shared my screen, and though i haven't had the tab open to where the thread can be read, people can see a tab titled Elon Musk.

i'm so paranoid that my class is going to think I like Elon Musk ;_;

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 December 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link

like man, I would rather be thought of as ugly than thought to be an Elon stan

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 December 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link

lol elon breaking his doxxing rules in his thread about them

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1603257514484711424/photo/1

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 14:46 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fj_qLU8XwAECPUp?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 14:46 (one year ago) link

What will this mean for Libs of Tik Tok?

Narrator: It meant nothing for Libs of Tik Tok

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 December 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link

xpost it was funny seeing him being called out for that and his stans making the "first amendment doesn't apply to gov websites" argument that until now has been usually used *against* them

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 December 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link

Auctioning kitchen equipment, not paying Twitter’s San Francisco lease, rumors flying about not paying severance, multiple tweets about the Fed, selling $3 billion in Tesla stock … Yikes! I’m very curious about Twitter’s current revenues.

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 15 December 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link

Their flight tracking story is clearly meant to distract from the Tesla stock sale, right? This guy isn’t playing 3D chess.

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 15 December 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link

s/their/this

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 15 December 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link

yeah prob its silly tho cause most people dont care that he sold the stock and those who do will still notice

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 15:06 (one year ago) link

this is what Elon Musk was publicly saying on Twitter to Tesla shareholders on the days he was dumping $3.6 billion in $TSLA stock pic.twitter.com/gjl259CxpD

— Matt Binder (@MattBinder) December 15, 2022

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 December 2022 15:21 (one year ago) link

Elon founded Tesla but is now foundering.

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 15 December 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link

help lol

Tesla should announce a buyback immediately and stop the dilution from Elons sales. It also allows the company to take advantage to the low share price Elon has created. THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN NOW TESLA BOD - @MartinViecha $tsla

— Ross Gerber (@GerberKawasaki) December 15, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

This in the qts from an Elon stan:

@GerberKawasaki you have to relax my friend. I’ve been badly hurt by the stock drop but I don’t want TSLA or Musk to run the company to support daily trades. Long vision + big goals = big future stock price. Everyone else is welcome to sell. https://t.co/aZpUsN2G7g

— Seth Champi (@SethChampi) December 15, 2022



Imagine thinking so little of yourself that you spend your time defending a multi-billionaire online for free. Absolutely laughable.

bit high, bitch (gyac), Thursday, 15 December 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link

once elon gets rid of the woke mind virus the stock will go through the roof

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 December 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link

xp It's a very similar dynamic to that in which most Trump supporters find themselves.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 15 December 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link

what does TESLA BOD mean?

mark s, Thursday, 15 December 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

https://i.redd.it/gsc8ujrjc5k41.gif

mark s, Thursday, 15 December 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

Board Of Directors (I assume you knew that tho)

sleeve, Thursday, 15 December 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

HELLO TESLA BOD CAN YOU HEAR ME IS ANYONE THERE

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link

what does TESLA BOD mean?

like a normal bod only all crumpled up because your dumb self-driving car just self-drove into a brick wall

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Thursday, 15 December 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

what does TESLA BOD mean?

https://imagez.tmz.com/image/ef/1by1/2022/07/18/ef33dc7e1276494ab5509ae4efbae53f_xl.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 December 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

When did Dr. Evil start sporting a rug?

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 December 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

The Martin Viecha those investor simps keep tagging is head of investor relations and his likes are quite interesting!

bit high, bitch (gyac), Thursday, 15 December 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

as the owner of a torso not dissimilar to elon musk’s who has always struggled with body image issues, thanks to folks who keep posting those shirtless pics of elon for validating my suspicion that actually yeah people are laughing at me when i go swimming

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 December 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

Pure cuntery imo, considering everything else about him

bit high, bitch (gyac), Thursday, 15 December 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link

thanks for speaking up, b.g. i'd really be happy if we collectively dropped the "bodyshaming is cool if the person is rich and powerful" kind of approach, which has been so widespread online, especially since Trump.

i don't think stevie, or any other individual poster, means ill --- but this stuff, collectively, does a LOT of collateral damage to many folks' emotional and even physical well-being.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 15 December 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link

Seriously, Elon having a normal middle-aged body is the most/only relatable thing about him.

Seems preferable to all the body-fat-obsessed CrossFit Silicon Valley bros.

i don't think stevie, or any other individual poster, means ill --- but this stuff, collectively, does a LOT of collateral damage to many folks' emotional and even physical well-being.

Apologies - wasn't thinking and it was massively insensitive and dick-ish of me. Will be sure to post more thoughtfully and avoid this sort of humour in the future.

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Thursday, 15 December 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

you gotta go with this one cause being hosed down by a hollywood super agent is funny enough on its own, doesnt require body insults

https://i.imgur.com/KxS77eU.png

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

i do hope hes wearing some sunscreen tho damn

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

heh

Bellingcat Discord member Sepulco geolocated the video Elon Musk posted overnight, claiming to show a stalker, which he used to justify the banning of accounts that tracked flights. It's at 34.116175,-118.160635, not close to any airports.https://t.co/H4ibUozDKV pic.twitter.com/lNvvOKmvC4

— Eliot Higgins (@EliotHiggins) December 15, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 18:39 (one year ago) link

appreciate it, stevie. all good on my end.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 15 December 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

is that Grimes' ass

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 15 December 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link

dont think twitter can survive too much more of this sort of thing

Twitter's new head of trust and safety has invited QAnon-adjacent and publicity-hungry anti-trafficking group OUR (the subject of a criminal probe believed to be ongoing) to discuss a partnership. OUR tells me and @annamerlan it's "delighted" by the offer. https://t.co/R1SO9XRgqD

— Tim Marchman (@timmarchman) December 15, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

all my "who to follow"s were, about an hour ago, replaced by "Elon Musk." it's back to normal now.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:40 (one year ago) link

Since Musk took over my Who To Follows have been people like Michael Tracey

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Friday, 16 December 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link

elon just going after reporters he hates now

Journalists who cover Elon Musk have been suspended on Twitter tonight: @Donie O'Sullivan from CNN, Aaron Rupar and the Washington Post's @drewharwell.

Rupar tells me he has "no idea" why it happened.

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) December 16, 2022

oh hey @rmac18 is suspended too!

— Steven Rich (@dataeditor) December 16, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link

if you were trying to put twitter out of business what would you do differently

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 00:48 (one year ago) link

CNN reporter Donie O'Sullivan (@donie) has been suspended for... asking the LAPD about the supposed "stalking attack incident" on @elonmusk and reporting that there was no police report filed. Nice job you fucking apartheid waterhead dork. Suck the shit out of my ass.

— K. Thor Jensen 🐀 (@kthorjensen) December 16, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

now hes suspending people whore talking about the suspensions this is s bloodbath

just nuke the site already elon https://t.co/op658YrXyH

— raandy (@randygdub) December 16, 2022

uhh matt’s suspended now too

— raandy (@randygdub) December 16, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 00:54 (one year ago) link

just lolling at him sitting there watching the firehose and clicking the ban button on the mod panel instead of doing any work

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 16 December 2022 00:56 (one year ago) link

he taking another step in the mod journey, get drunk and ban everyone you hate

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 00:58 (one year ago) link

one that got binder nuked

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkD4TFVUcAAHQ-x?format=jpg&name=large

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 01:00 (one year ago) link

can you imagine what greenwald would be saying if he didnt like elon

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkD5c1mVEAAeo5z?format=jpg&name=large

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 01:03 (one year ago) link

This was Ryan Mac @rmac18’s last tweet before he was suspected 🤔 pic.twitter.com/0TOWpN9aei

— Katie Notopoulos (@katienotopoulos) December 16, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 01:05 (one year ago) link

what does the breaking news site need normal journalists for i ask you

Clay, Friday, 16 December 2022 01:08 (one year ago) link

lol he is really losing his cool

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 01:12 (one year ago) link

Elon took Aaron Rupar from the based libs….he just picked a fight he cannot win. BlueWaveDeborah1956 is going to end his empire

— 71 Years Young (@ByYourLogic) December 16, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 01:13 (one year ago) link

another one

The Intercept journalist @micahflee has been suspended. He had been writing critically about Elon Musk.

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) December 16, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 01:14 (one year ago) link

Uh-oh, Elon Musk has caught a Twitter-specific mental disease. You've seen it before. Someone or some group on here has owned him so bad that he is re-aligning his whole life and worldview to prove them wrong. Happens all the time, but only Musk may blow up a planet as a result

— Vincent 🇦🇷🇲🇦🇦🇷🇲🇦 Bevins (@Vinncent) May 23, 2018

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 16 December 2022 01:16 (one year ago) link

Prescient

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 16 December 2022 01:16 (one year ago) link

first they came for the reporters and i said nothing, then they came for the annoying guys

Political pundit @keitholbermann has been suspended by Twitter. He had been tweeting critically of Elon Musk.

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) December 16, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 01:27 (one year ago) link

The night of the long hair plugs

— Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) December 16, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 16 December 2022 01:29 (one year ago) link

Lmao at "night of the gone wives" in the replies

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 16 December 2022 01:32 (one year ago) link

the tesla meeting he was late for must have gone really badly

Karl Malone, Friday, 16 December 2022 01:54 (one year ago) link

Greenwald disingenuously presuming the argument is lefties being upset now that their 'friends' are banned and not pointing out the obvious hypocrisy, or the fact that these bans were much more egregious than the ones conservatives scream about, as no TOS were presumably violated.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 December 2022 01:56 (one year ago) link

one year from now, Twitter will be 100 people in Klan robes jerking off and trying to plan get togethers at Wing House

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 December 2022 01:57 (one year ago) link

lmao, this one made me go cross-eyed

Maybe they violated real terms of service by conspiring against freedom of speech. 🍿
Owners/influencers will come and go but that dang constitution lives forever.

— Stephen (@spcomstock) December 16, 2022

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 December 2022 01:58 (one year ago) link

journalists gone, 89 tweet thread of the original movie Avatar is still up

mh, Friday, 16 December 2022 02:13 (one year ago) link

he's claiming the journalists all 'doxxed' him by retweeting Elonjet or some ish

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 December 2022 02:35 (one year ago) link

my god

Twitter is now marking all links to Mastodon unsafe pic.twitter.com/kUseCXVLMk

— 𝗝.𝗠. 𝗕𝗘𝗥𝗚𝗘𝗥 #readoptimal (@intelwire) December 16, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 02:46 (one year ago) link

I would appreciate boosting the hashtag #sendelontomars

mh, Friday, 16 December 2022 02:51 (one year ago) link

elon go to mars right away

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 02:53 (one year ago) link

first person on mars gets to make all the laws iirc, for example law 1: no clowning on elon

Definite Article, The (cat), Friday, 16 December 2022 03:10 (one year ago) link

Apartheid beluga still digging down huh?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 16 December 2022 03:21 (one year ago) link

dude's seeing centipedes crawling out of his fingers right now

They posted my exact real-time location, basically assassination coordinates, in (obvious) direct violation of Twitter terms of service

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 16, 2022

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 04:07 (one year ago) link

the human capacity for self-delusion and rationalization is generally up to the task of justifying any opinion or behavior without recourse to hallucinations.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 16 December 2022 04:09 (one year ago) link

heh

In an amazing turn of events, Twitter is malfunctioning and suspended accounts are able to access Twitter Spaces and speak in them https://t.co/kiFGZ8s17A

— Kat Tenbarge (@kattenbarge) December 16, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 04:13 (one year ago) link

lmao pic.twitter.com/L31AYgcIHr

— c a i t l i n (@hello__caitlin) December 16, 2022

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 04:14 (one year ago) link

I'll settle for a Buddy Dwyer

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 December 2022 04:16 (one year ago) link

Only with him being at a party with Trump and the bullet going through his head and Trump's. Oopsie!

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 December 2022 04:17 (one year ago) link

Trump NFTs in the morning and Elon just fucking melting down in real time in the evening, it's a day the bards will sing of.

you know people say this guy is like Trump without any of the charisma or weird humor but I gotta say some of the phrases he's coming up with today like "assassination coordinates" and "Few people understand this!" really do sound like Trump right after he got impeached

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 04:25 (one year ago) link

god he is just getting so owned

Sorry, too many options. Will redo poll.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 16, 2022

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 04:37 (one year ago) link

hes talking on a space with the banned journalists right now

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 04:39 (one year ago) link

lol he left after like 30 seconds presumably cause they were asking him questions

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 04:39 (one year ago) link

lol fucking pitiful

Holy Shit. Elon Musk just popped into a Twitter Spaces chat with a bunch of journalists. He was called out by journalist Drew Harrell, who he banned, for lying about posting links to his private information, then leaves almost immediately after being pressed. Here is the exchange pic.twitter.com/wVA9Gb5MVJ

— Bradley Eversley (@ForeverEversley) December 16, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 04:57 (one year ago) link

getting booed at Chappelle's show really made him crack huh

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 05:01 (one year ago) link

turns out freedom of speech isn't working out so well for this guy

sleeve, Friday, 16 December 2022 05:02 (one year ago) link

everyone told him he was the best boy in the world for ten years straight then suddenly turned on him its basically torture a cruel prank lol

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 05:08 (one year ago) link

Who has a screenshot of the "Kanye. Elon. Trump." tweet? I need to see that again.

lol that shit was a curse

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 05:15 (one year ago) link

Just too pathetic

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 December 2022 05:18 (one year ago) link

lmao the Twitter space talking about this just abruptly got killed

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 05:19 (one year ago) link

Still half a month left for him to just kill the whole damn site and fulfill the Dril Prophecy.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 December 2022 05:21 (one year ago) link

I hope that if he's forced to reinstate these journalists they still have the dignity to walk away anyway.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 16 December 2022 05:50 (one year ago) link

lol he is really losing his cool

getting booed at Chappelle's show really made him crack huh

Sure looks like that was the breaking point. It’s been a downward spiral since then. Notably the first time he’s really been physically forced outside his weird nerd echo chamber.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 16 December 2022 05:52 (one year ago) link

Who has a screenshot of the "Kanye. Elon. Trump." tweet? I need to see that again.

I finally figured out the true meaning of this tweet. Each one is the King of the Losers for their respective generations.

Chris L, Friday, 16 December 2022 05:57 (one year ago) link

Elon’s 51 and Kanye is 45. Aren’t they both Gen X?

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 16 December 2022 06:48 (one year ago) link

Yes

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 16 December 2022 06:59 (one year ago) link

had to double check that Trump was a boomer and not silent generation (he squeaks in to boomer)

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 16 December 2022 07:24 (one year ago) link

Well, Trump’s definitely not silent.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 16 December 2022 13:11 (one year ago) link

Silent but deadly.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 December 2022 13:17 (one year ago) link

lol

Cow_Art, Friday, 16 December 2022 13:34 (one year ago) link

The Deadliest, people are saying...

Kanye is *spiritually* a millennial (I'm telling myself)

Chris L, Friday, 16 December 2022 13:47 (one year ago) link

thats fair

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 13:52 (one year ago) link

Nah ye can keep Kanye, millennials have enough problems

bit high, bitch (gyac), Friday, 16 December 2022 13:55 (one year ago) link

haa he nuked spaces altogether, guessing its cause banned accounts were still able to use it and no one works there anymore who knows how to fix that

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 14:03 (one year ago) link

So how long til he announces a relocation to Texas? He's obviously not staying in SF.

Xp wtf?!

bit high, bitch (gyac), Friday, 16 December 2022 14:16 (one year ago) link

Guess who works on and is possibly a product lead for Twitter spaces!

1yr ago @Squad was acquired by Twitter – our whole team is still here & since then we've worked with amazing Tweeps to launch:
- @TwitterSpaces
- Tips
- Ticketed Spaces
- @SuperFollows
- Creator Dashboard
- Unified Purchases Dashboard
- NFT Profile Pics (soon)

What a year! 🚀

— Esther Crawford ✨ (@esthercrawford) December 14, 2021

bit high, bitch (gyac), Friday, 16 December 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link

nice

Twitter Blue round 2: I’m travelling and haven’t looked at this in detail yet, but my tracker has taken 66 million profile snapshots of 18 million distinct accounts since Monday’s relaunch, and it’s found a grand total of 2,215 new sign-ups.

— Travis Brown (20-30% parody) (@travisbrown) December 16, 2022

15 of the top 20 by follower count are porn. The top non-porn personal accounts are the UKIP Gamergate guy and a Bolsonaro supporter who recently got Elon Musk’s attention with claims of election fraud. https://t.co/LQ5XJfPQ7c

— Travis Brown (20-30% parody) (@travisbrown) December 16, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link

lmao this is his explanation for why Spaces isn't working right now. dude is so pathetic

We’re fixing a Legacy bug. Should be working tomorrow.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 16, 2022

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link

It's always someone else's fault.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 December 2022 14:28 (one year ago) link

Imagine having a midlife crisis on this scale. It's like one of those mortifying failed public proposals of marriage but as a worldwide simulcast event on all major television networks.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 December 2022 14:36 (one year ago) link

fucking Dan Price in that twitter spaces conversation

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 16 December 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link

ya I mean Trump could get away with this because he was a powerful political figure who could actually make life miserable for people in very real ways. all Elon has the power to do is ruin a social media company and tank Tesla stock. everyone is laughing at him too much to really be mad and the only people really getting hurt are those who stupidly put their life savings into his stupid company. the right wants Twitter to stick around more than the left does and it's gotta drive 'em crazy knowing the only winners in this whole situation were the people who managed to convince Elon to buy it for $44 billion

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link

checkn muh stonks

https://i.imgur.com/LCW97H4.png

mark s, Friday, 16 December 2022 14:44 (one year ago) link

uh oh

News about arbitrary suspension of journalists on Twitter is worrying. EU’s Digital Services Act requires respect of media freedom and fundamental rights. This is reinforced under our #MediaFreedomAct. @elonmusk should be aware of that. There are red lines. And sanctions, soon.

— Věra Jourová (@VeraJourova) December 16, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link

ya definitely worth remembering even if Elon actually gets some sleep and somehow realizes how bad he's screwing this up he's still set a ton of lawsuits and sanctions in motion, not least of which involves all the labor laws he flagrantly violated

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link

Given recent behavior I'd expect him to just cut off service in any country that tries to sanction him. Which would just make things worse for the company's financial prospects, but that clearly is not factoring into his decision-making at the moment.

paranoid meltdown

| (Latham Green), Friday, 16 December 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link

aren't there entire countries who are either locked out right now or can't get 2FA to function because Elon fired all the people who knew how it worked?

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link

I think there’s a very real possibility this guy goes broke.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 16 December 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link

If he does, I hope it's because he made it his life's mission to spend all his money buying various social media sites and turning them into MySpace overnight.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 December 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link

New 52 week low and falling

bit high, bitch (gyac), Friday, 16 December 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

$TSLA's recent 52 week low makes a lot more sense now that it's been revealed elon dumped $3 billion worth of shares into the market. lol @ calls for a share buyback

xp!

, Friday, 16 December 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

lol it lost half its value in exactly 3 months. isn't there a point where the Tesla board just forces him out? how low would it have to go for that to happen?

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link

teslas in a tough spot 99% of its value was based on the idea that elon is a genius and a real good boy

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link

pre-covid it was trading around like $20, then it shot up b/c it was a meme stock and also ZIRP. so probably will need to drop back down to $20

, Friday, 16 December 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link

Yeah the most shocking thing about the Tesla price isn't how far it's fallen, it's how much it shot up in 2020 — based mostly on forth and excitement about "self-driving cars" and Musk's success at selling himself as a visionary. And helped a LOT by the weird pandemic investing environment. Like, even now the share price is triple what it was in February 2020.

Here's a good and somewhat prescient analysis from a year ago: https://www.investopedia.com/why-tesla-skyrocketed-during-pandemic-5211590

"During times of excess, fundamentals take a backseat. And so it has been with Tesla."

froth and excitement, I mean

teslas in a tough spot 99% of its value was based on the idea that elon is a genius and a real good boy

― lag∞n, Friday, December 16, 2022 9:43 AM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol yeah they're in a real unique spot, just think of all the value that could've been saved if someone could convince Elon to just shut the fuck up once in a while

kind of amusing how TSLA's stock graph pretty much mimics Bitcoin exactly

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:05 (one year ago) link

investing for dummies

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link

elon was pretty much on track and on message til the stock went crazy, becoming the richest person pushed him over the edge

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

yeah i kind of forgot that he's only been the world's richest man for like 2 years. maybe if his wealth accumulation had been slower and steadier like bezos it wouldn't have gone to his head as much

, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link

tesla was on the verge of going under for years he must have felt so vindicated when it went to the moon

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

yeah he's basically the biggest lottery winner ever in history, not surprising his life is flaming out

, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

not sure if we talked about how he supposedly 'donated' $5.7 billion in stock to a charity last year (which saved him $4 billion in taxes) and that charity turned out to be himself lol

https://news.bloombergtax.com/tax-insights-and-commentary/elon-musks-5-7-billion-stock-gift-had-some-surprising-benefits

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-mysterious-charity-donation-went-to-musk-foundation-report-2022-12

, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link

I will go out on aa limb and say massive fraud is involved in Tesla's stock price (like Bitcoin!), too.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 16 December 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link

you're not really going out on a limb everybody has thought that for years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TSLAQ

, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

It was a legitimate charitable donation, he gave that stock to the Human Fund.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 December 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link

ah interesting

News from @maxwelltani : NBC News has suspended @oneunderscore__ from appearing on air, over Musk criticism it thought crossed the line https://t.co/9zMkQgbxM1

— Ben Smith (@semaforben) December 16, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

tbf that guy does kind of suck

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 16 December 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

no hes cool he follows me

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

you're not really going out on a limb everybody has thought that for years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TSLAQ🕸


Those guys are having the best week

bit high, bitch (gyac), Friday, 16 December 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

all according to plan

And soon, ladies & gentlemen, the coup de grâce

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 16, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

Bari Weiss is bad now

What should the consequence of doxxing someone’s real-time, exact location be? Assume your child is at that location, as mine was.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 16, 2022

bit high, bitch (gyac), Friday, 16 December 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

🤣🤣🤣

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 16, 2022

Just a good ol’ South African boy loving those Mandela jokes

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Friday, 16 December 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

Having heard him get awkward and agitated almost immediately on that space before he left it, the emojis are even funnier now, basically him afaict

https://i.imgflip.com/2/1nhqil.jpg

bit high, bitch (gyac), Friday, 16 December 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

god these stories start eating their own tail so quickly, I'm not even sure what "reporting on my real-time location" or w/e is supposedly referring to at this point. I followed the bit about the "stalker," the car hood, the jet tracker, but these things become mythic in like hours and now I'm confused again

also as I'm sure someone already pointed out, it is too fucking LOL to have a tech CEO complaining about this

rob, Friday, 16 December 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

I don't care enough about Tesla to know a lot about it, but I feel somewhat confident in guessing that Tesla HQ knows exactly where all their cars are at any given minute

rob, Friday, 16 December 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

especially a tech CEO who's big idea was "Twitter should have your location data at all times"

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

also what's actually happening doesn't look any different to me than someone posting say, Taylor Swift's touring schedule

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link

tesla was on the verge of going under for years he must have felt so vindicated when it went to the moon

― lag∞n, Friday, December 16, 2022 11:14 AM (one hour ago)

i sort of wonder if he now thinks every business venture of his will follow this pattern, and thinks that it's OK twitter is flatlining it's all part of the plan, he'll operate it on the verge of bankruptcy for a decade and then have it go to the moon... too bad social media ain't electric cars

, Friday, 16 December 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link

It’s kind of the opposite in fact, automakers get bailed out and have weird inflated valuations all the time but social media companies never really recover once they start going into a tailspin

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link

i'm not listening to that space for the same reasons i won't click play on a trump video, but apparently at least half of his consternation there was him realizing a bunch of people he'd personally banned from twitter earlier that day still had access to twitter spaces.

sounds like a bug. these things happen. but it will be interesting to see how long it takes them to ship a fix.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 16 December 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link

not exactly surprising but: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/16/technology/elon-musk-management-style.html

But as I’ve called around to C-suite executives and influential investors in Silicon Valley over the past few weeks, I’ve been surprised by how many are rooting for Mr. Musk — even if they won’t admit to it publicly.

Mr. Musk’s defenders point out that Twitter hasn’t collapsed or gone offline despite losing thousands of employees, as some critics predicted it would. They see his harsh management style as a necessary corrective, and they believe he will ultimately be rewarded for cutting costs and laying down the law.

“He says the things many C.E.O.s wish they could say, and then he actually does them,” said Roy Bahat, a venture capitalist with Bloomberg Beta.

Mr. Bahat, who has criticized some of Mr. Musk’s moves, characterized his Twitter tenure as a “living natural experiment” — a divisive but illuminating window into what other executives might be able to get away with, if they tried.

“He’s giving people a lot more knowledge of what’s possible,” he said.

Tech elites don’t simply support Mr. Musk because they like him personally or because they agree with his anti-woke political crusades. (Although a number do.)

Rather, they view him as the standard-bearer of an emergent worldview they hope catches on more broadly in Silicon Valley.

The writer John Ganz has called this worldview “bossism” — a belief that the people who build and run important tech companies have ceded too much power to the entitled, lazy, overly woke people who work for them and need to start clawing it back.

rob, Friday, 16 December 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

i wonder how much of what he's doing is influenced by his need for approval from that crowd. seems like a lot of his career has been focused on winning approval from thiel in particular. big alpha/beta vibes when they're in the same room apparently.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 16 December 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

i wish more people were pointing out the obv fact that nobody stalked his damn kid, and the police aren't even actively investigating a crime.

he probably took video of some rando and assumed it was a stalker, then doxxed their fucking license plate

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 December 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link

unless i'm misunderstanding, wasn't the extent of the doxxing just a bot account that regularly posts the flight information of famous people, which is already publicly available, and is still widely available on other platforms? wasn't the level of detail something like "elon musk's plane is landing at LAX at 8:20pm"?

because that isn't doxxing

and the police aren't even actively investigating a crime.

and they didn't even report whatever happened to the cops, which seems notable because, given musk's reaction, you would think he would be desperate to have any evidence to support his claim

Karl Malone, Friday, 16 December 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link

tbf I don't really see anyone accepting that as fact either, as there was with Trump there are just so many weird things about all of this that it's hard to know what exactly we should be focusing on

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

teslas have cameras all over them, just saw a video of a guy keying a tesla filmed by the car as it was off parked and empty, if the guy jumped on the hood elon wouldve tweeted out footage of it by now

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 18:13 (one year ago) link

though I do wanna bring up that whole thing where Elon claimed "priority #1" upon buying Twitter was stopping child exploitation material, which he took a victory lap for despite knowing full well that he didn't do anything to combat it and in fact almost certainly made the problem worse by firing the whole team responsible for finding and reporting that stuff. and he did it by bringing up the fact that one of his kids "died in his arms", which caused his ex-wife to take to Twitter to say it absolutely wasn't true. I think a lot of the media isn't quite grasping how desperate and shameless this guy really is.

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

unless his family wasnt in a tesla, the true scandal

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

eh the media doesn't care, controversy generates traffic. it's the trump problem, they're going to keep covering elon until elon does something bad like precipitate the fall of western democracy (oops)

, Friday, 16 December 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

I think a lot of the media isn't quite grasping how desperate and shameless this guy really is.

Which is odd, given how the media usually is very good at not falling for such men.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 December 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

In two years, a small group of rich dorks will probably start trying to lobby Congress to pass an amendment to allow foreign born candidates to run for President. So Elon can run.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 December 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

Tesla stock learning a big lesson today: Don’t fuck with Aaron Rupar pic.twitter.com/18Ik4u43kK

— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) December 16, 2022

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

elon's probably just selling more of his shares, probably getting in sales before the end of the tax year because his options expire or something (iirc he sold a bunch of shares last year during the holidays too)

, Friday, 16 December 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/8jX2yMX.jpg

Tracer Hand, Friday, 16 December 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

guy got too used to being the boss

it seems like musk just completely confused cause and effect and decided that twitter was in control of journalists rather than the other way around. none of the controls are connected to the things that neoreactionaries discuss at their orgies.

— rev. howard arson (@revhowardarson) December 16, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/3FunSiHndf

— Galuade @ FIRES OF RUBICON (@galuade_) December 16, 2022

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

These dorks can’t figure out the 1st Am., really don’t want them to try figuring out the 4th.

The Bankruptcy of the Planet of the Apes (PBKR), Friday, 16 December 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

honestly seeing that online bullying of rich people can impact investors confidence and price in a CEO like this is better than most drugs https://t.co/4C20FtAlND

— pudding person (@JUNlPER) December 16, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 16 December 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

Bari, this is a real question, not rhetorical. What is your opinion?

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 16, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 16 December 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

all real questions on twitter must now be flagged as Real in the message

Karl Malone, Friday, 16 December 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link

So if Musk never filed a police report, isn’t he breaking Twitter policy by posting that dude’s picture without his okay?

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Friday, 16 December 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link

Twitter policy is basically just royal prerogative now afaict

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 December 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link

lol I got a "most users don't like this kind of language" for using "Tesla" and "morons" in the same tweet.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 16 December 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

Somehow fitting that the ultimate end of technology would be an AI built to rim the oligarchy

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 December 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

Beyond the Blue Check Event Horizon.

Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 December 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk's team is seeking new investors for Twitter, offering the same $54.20-a-share deal and trying to close by the end of the year. Scoop w/ @ReedAlbergotti https://t.co/ujZOYxlfQG

— Liz Hoffman (@lizrhoffman) December 16, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 16 December 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link

like a Craigslist ad with a beat to shit guitar saying "just trying to sell it for what I paid for it"

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 16 December 2022 21:19 (one year ago) link

“One could argue he has created value or destroyed value at Twitter. It’s hard to tell at this point,” he said.

Is it hard?

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 16 December 2022 21:21 (one year ago) link

- Grimes

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 16 December 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link

I remember getting lots of pushback a mere 6 weeks ago when I was celebrating the downfall of this cursed platform. I know we don’t like this sort of behavior here, but I’m going to do it anyway: I was right, dammit.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 16 December 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link

lmao the "coup de grace" is more Twitter files bullshit

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link

xp
you were, but tbf a lot did happen in the past 6 weeks lol

rob, Friday, 16 December 2022 21:26 (one year ago) link

he can't be the worst Democrat while Joe Manchin's alive but he can be the most pathetic

Elon, as a father, I understand the safety of your family comes first. Could you remove the real-time tweet but not ban the account? If there is a continuous pattern of unsafe doxxing, then escalate. Let’s discuss these things as Americans first, thoughtfully and rationally.

— Ro Khanna (@RoKhanna) December 16, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 16 December 2022 21:27 (one year ago) link

Show us the Twitter Files from the last 24 hrs u coward

wow that tweet is puke. My most hated American obsession is with being thoughtful and rational

rob, Friday, 16 December 2022 21:29 (one year ago) link

lmao nobody gives a shit about the old management dude is just posting hit pieces against his own company

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 21:32 (one year ago) link

Did Bari get cut out of this Twitter Files drop?

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 16 December 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link

I mean I hope Bari gets cut out from this mortal
coil soon, but

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 16 December 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link

lmao at Bari saying, even while criticizing Musk, that she still doesn't believe Twitter isn't a 'public square', like....literally only the Court of the Fifth Circuit will agree w/ you on that

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 December 2022 21:51 (one year ago) link

oh cool look who's back

I'm back!! Thank you @elonmusk and by the way MELT DOWN THE ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES AND TURN THEM INTO PRISON BARS!

— Mike Lindell (@realMikeLindell) December 16, 2022

frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link

that's kind of an iconic return post

Karl Malone, Friday, 16 December 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link

he’ll yeah

Clay, Friday, 16 December 2022 22:08 (one year ago) link

Pillow Man and Musk probably share a dealer

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 16 December 2022 22:14 (one year ago) link

i'm sure that this mentality is why i will never be a zillionaire to begin with, but it is so strange to me that none of these guys (everyone from musk to trump to kanye to lindell, etc etc) doesn't just cash out and enjoy life? like i would totally just pack in in an sit around plunking around on a guitar by my infinity pool in greece or read books or w/e

like you could are one of the few humans in history that could live a stress free life yet you actively choose all this bullshit

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 December 2022 22:18 (one year ago) link

That life's reserved for trust fund babies.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 16 December 2022 22:22 (one year ago) link

melt down the pillows and turn them into ploughshares

xxpost If they ever stopped moving the void inside of them would swallow them whole.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 December 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link

that's kind of an iconic return post

― Karl Malone, Friday, December 16, 2022 2:07 PM

right? he's gotta have a ghost writer or smth

Oh, Stevie, you are my number one gypsy goddess. (Austin), Friday, 16 December 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link

xps

the irony is that the one rich guy who cashed out and seems to be living the life is Tom from Myspace, whose social media profiles are all just chill vibes and beautiful locales last time I checked.

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Friday, 16 December 2022 22:35 (one year ago) link

“It looks like toddlers put this together during recess.” The shoddy build quality of a brand new Tesla. pic.twitter.com/5IC2TkEIZm

— Mike Sington (@MikeSington) December 16, 2022

car guys vs musk is the real grudge

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 22:49 (one year ago) link

The god damned door trim

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 December 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link

xxxxxp Most of us can play for only so long. But there is so much need in the world, and there are many good causes looking to address that need. Any of these guys could alleviate a whole lot of human suffering, find meaningful and rewarding human engagement, and still have enough wealth to last several lifetimes.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 December 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link

yeah like the Caruso guy who blew $100 million trying to win the LA mayor's race so he could fix homelessness

instead of just using the $100 million to fix homelessness

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 December 2022 23:03 (one year ago) link

this is a dril tweet pic.twitter.com/xhkkTHzJzT

— sclv (@sclv) December 16, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 23:07 (one year ago) link

xp Yeah, fuck that guy.

One of the problems with so many of these guys is that, because they happened to have made a shitload of money (most often from a combination of being in the right place at the right time and recognizing that circumstance), they think they are smarter than everyone else (they're usually not) and good at everything (they're definitely not).

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 December 2022 23:11 (one year ago) link

Sorry, meant to post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2dDyeRkfSg

Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 December 2022 23:11 (one year ago) link

Xpost sure I get that but honestly Myspace Tom is doing better just by doing nothing than most of these guys actively making it worse. Like they could just go on vacation all the time and be extraordinary tippers and do more good.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 December 2022 23:30 (one year ago) link

But there is so much need in the world, and there are many good causes looking to address that need. Any of these guys could alleviate a whole lot of human suffering, find meaningful and rewarding human engagement, and still have enough wealth to last several lifetimes.

Not a single one of these ghouls should be actively involved in the policy of 'good causes.' Putting them on a beach and blinding them with coke and hookers is the best case scenario aside from just taking their money away by force.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 16 December 2022 23:48 (one year ago) link

why would u do that to innocent hookers

Definite Article, The (cat), Friday, 16 December 2022 23:49 (one year ago) link

(i think the best thing that can be said for EA is it's stupid rather than evil in the way most philanthropy is evil)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 16 December 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

nah it's still pretty evil

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 16 December 2022 23:58 (one year ago) link

Establishing your own egotistical charity is awful, but someone giving all their money to like, Doctors Without Borders, with no strings attached is fine.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 17 December 2022 00:08 (one year ago) link

🐦[Elon Musk’s team is seeking new investors for Twitter, offering the same $54.20-a-share deal and trying to close by the end of the year. Scoop w/ @ReedAlbergotti🕸 https://t.co/ujZOYxlfQG🕸
— Liz Hoffman (@lizrhoffman) December 16, 2022🕸]🐦


at $54.20 this is the same as buying trump nfts at this point

, Saturday, 17 December 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link

My nonprofit employer got some big no-strings-attached donations from MacKenzie Scott's foundation and she actually kinda rules

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 17 December 2022 00:16 (one year ago) link

squandering her divorce settlement on worthy NGO's all over the world without micromanaging or telling them how to spend it = classic

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 17 December 2022 00:17 (one year ago) link

Yeah she's done it right. Essentially releasing half of Bezos's money up to that point into the world.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 December 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link

Despite her massive first round of donations (another is to follow), she still came out ahead since Amazon stock went up so much during the pandemic

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 17 December 2022 00:31 (one year ago) link

proving the only good billionaire is the billionaire who doesn't want to be a billionaire

(but she should likely try harder)

Gates Foundation is not bad but they're definitely a more traditional philanthropic foundation, they expect reporting

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 17 December 2022 00:55 (one year ago) link

Looks like everyone who watches Elonjet on Twitch is getting reported and suspended for glorifying violence

What the fuck are you talking about. Where have I ever said anything like this.

This is super bullshit. pic.twitter.com/4jLixKmbGE

— carter. (banned arc) (@CarterForNow) December 16, 2022

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Saturday, 17 December 2022 00:57 (one year ago) link

The gates foundation is very bad actually

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 17 December 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link

i was gonna say, when the revolution comes we empty the gates foundation's pockets

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Saturday, 17 December 2022 01:12 (one year ago) link

srsly, the worst example possible

sleeve, Saturday, 17 December 2022 03:54 (one year ago) link

The Gates Foundation gave us the microchips in the vaccine, so there's that. (The m in mRNA stands for Microsoft.)

NBC has responded to Musk banning reporters by… suspending a reporter who was critical of Musk.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 17 December 2022 04:19 (one year ago) link

xp no we're not joking abt Gates

the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation doesn’t just spend its own money. As much as 40 percent of a foundation’s assets represent funds that otherwise would have been collected by governments as income and estate taxes.

https://nonprofitquarterly.org/is-the-gates-foundation-out-of-control/

sleeve, Saturday, 17 December 2022 04:20 (one year ago) link

also helping to eradicate polio but whatever

jaymc, Saturday, 17 December 2022 04:30 (one year ago) link

If we took his money we could use it to eradicate polio without his pet project of union busting teachers coming along for the ride.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 17 December 2022 04:33 (one year ago) link

Keep caping for Epstein’s bro, though.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 17 December 2022 04:34 (one year ago) link

i don't think "we" could do that, actually

jaymc, Saturday, 17 December 2022 04:38 (one year ago) link

Linsey McGoey's book No Such Thing as a Free Gift gets into the details as to why the Gates Foundation is bad - it's from 2015 and needs a post-covid update but this interview from July is up to date: https://www.currentaffairs.org/2022/07/how-bill-gates-makes-the-world-worse-off

Looking forward to Tim Schwab's book on Gates due out next year. His twitter is a constant stream on how Gates sucks.
Recent article from him: https://www.thenation.com/article/society/gates-foundation-colonialism/

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 17 December 2022 05:57 (one year ago) link

if you'd like to witness something truly deranged I would encourage you to check out the frequency with which Elon Musk replies to an unaffiliated twitter blue account called "musk university" that just quotes him https://t.co/a8pwrPak8T pic.twitter.com/z3FtAePOPL

— inverted vibe curve: burgertown must be defended (@PatBlanchfield) December 17, 2022

just sayin, Saturday, 17 December 2022 07:15 (one year ago) link

The current top read article on English Wikipedia is the one on the Streisand Effect btw

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Saturday, 17 December 2022 09:53 (one year ago) link

Well, until Musk buys Wikipedia

Vinnie, Saturday, 17 December 2022 10:36 (one year ago) link

gates is a monster who has killed far more people than musk has yet and his PR is somehow more insidious since normal people seem to buy it without necessarily becoming stans - something that seems impossible for musk to achieve especially now

your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 17 December 2022 11:52 (one year ago) link

lol at people defending Gates

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Saturday, 17 December 2022 12:27 (one year ago) link

the shit they pulled around commercializing the covid vaccine was real bad

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 12:49 (one year ago) link

bill gates is the most powerful person in public health, because hes good at computer

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 12:54 (one year ago) link

every billionaire is a policy failure and an assassination co-ordinate (parody)

mark s, Saturday, 17 December 2022 12:59 (one year ago) link

THE ILXOR FILES: matt taibbi identifies the posters who work for the fbi but you already know who you are 🚓

mark s, Saturday, 17 December 2022 13:00 (one year ago) link

even when an ultra rich entity gives their money away in a way thats not an exercise in extending their political power, which it almost always is see bill gates, they are still unwilling to address the fundamental problem theyve caused which is that they and their cronies are hoarding the worlds resources, in fact they think they deserve to do it and its good, and we should be grateful for whatever they give back however they decide to do it, which is why effective altruism is so silly theyre never actually willing to do the effective thing

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 13:01 (one year ago) link

I have zero interest in defending Bill Gates the individual, I don't think billionaires should exist, and I recognize some of the inherent problems in large-scale philanthropy as it is often practiced. That said, I find some of the dismissiveness of the Gates Foundation, which employs hundreds of people who are working to improve health, education, and economic outcomes around the world and partners with other organizations to increase its impact, rather annoyingly smug.

jaymc, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:07 (one year ago) link

just imagine how annoying it must be for us to see you uncritically repeating corporate pr

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link

why not read about their commitment to intellectual property over all that human life they claim to be saving https://thebaffler.com/latest/who-owns-vaccines-neumann

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link

Fine, I won't talk about it anymore

jaymc, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link

I wanna be a billionaire just to show you fucking ilxor bozos it can be done correct. musk send me money pls

normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link

thats effective altruism

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link

we shd poll which ilxor is the most effective recipient (its me)

mark s, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:21 (one year ago) link

listen even if i dont win i think whoever wins should give me a million dollars, i just want a taste, just need to get my beak wet

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

hes really trying hard to sell this thing that no one wants in a way that no one cares about

Twitter will start incorporating mute & block signals from Blue Verified (not Legacy Blue) as downvotes

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 17, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:28 (one year ago) link

anyway as far as my plans for the money i will use it to kill every other billionaire then with whatevers left over i will go on a world noodle tour

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link

lol

Tesla’s most prominent investors now openly feuding with Elno. pic.twitter.com/vXMTWsGrke

— Brianna Wu (@BriannaWu) December 17, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link

And as predicted, while all the mainstream journalists who were banned come back, the indies who specifically track the far-right are still suspended. https://t.co/0rnBOUTSRs pic.twitter.com/7QPnXpWBHv

— AZ Right Wing Watch (Kolektiva.social/@AZRWW) (@az_rww) December 17, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

we shd poll which ilxor is the most effective recipient (its me)

My brother used to say, if he became a millionaire/billionaire, he'd buy St Mirren FC and have a statue of our pet dog outside the stadium recreating a famous photo of him wearing our dad's glasses.

Gulf VAR Syndrome (Tom D.), Saturday, 17 December 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link

Shit if I got given one million bucks I'd just pay off all my family's debt and keep driving the same car.

Paying off debt like an aphrodisiac

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 December 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

sorry but my family needs to learn personal responsibility

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

I’d pay off debts but tithe 10% to myself for a stupid fund and see if I could buy all the props from Rob Zombie’s Munsters.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 17 December 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link

I touch computers for a living and have no children so I already have enough money for everything I want, being a billionaire has no appeal rly

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 17 December 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

Walking around handing out $100s to every person I encounter would be fun.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 17 December 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

Being a billionaire must be insane. You can buy new teeth, new skin. All your chairs cost 20,000 dollars and weigh 2,000 pounds. Your life is just a series of your own preferences. In terms of cognitive impairment it's probably like being kicked in the head by a horse every day

— Thing Bad (@Merman_Melville) January 24, 2019

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

Walking around handing out $100s to every person I encounter would be fun.

John D. Rockefeller used to do this! Except he passed out shiny dimes.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 17 December 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

new bil, who dis

normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Saturday, 17 December 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link

the guy who just retired? his days are numbered

🧐

Much will come to light as Fauci loses power.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 18, 2022

frogbs, Sunday, 18 December 2022 02:56 (one year ago) link

Do we have to post all his lousy tweets in here, we know where to go get them

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Sunday, 18 December 2022 02:57 (one year ago) link

well it is his thread

frogbs, Sunday, 18 December 2022 03:04 (one year ago) link

I can’t really dispute that

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Sunday, 18 December 2022 03:25 (one year ago) link

So few understand this

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 15, 2022

frogbs, Sunday, 18 December 2022 03:28 (one year ago) link

An open invitation for con artists to pimp their cryptocurrencies in his replies. The man has a scam kink.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 18 December 2022 04:49 (one year ago) link

This will surprise many

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 18 December 2022 12:28 (one year ago) link

the last tweet @taylorlorenz sent before elon musk kicked her off twitter: asking for comment for a story pic.twitter.com/DYAjlHcaqU

— Marlow Stern (@MarlowNYC) December 18, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 18 December 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

lol

Elon Musk posted a picture of his live location at the World Cup. Elon Musk’s account should be suspended for doxxing the Twitter CEO.

— Dash Dobrofsky (@DashDobrofsky) December 18, 2022

groovypanda, Sunday, 18 December 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link

Specifically, we will remove accounts created solely for the purpose of promoting other social platforms and content that contains links or usernames for the following platforms: Facebook, Instagram, Mastodon, Truth Social, Tribel, Nostr and Post.

— Twitter Support (@TwitterSupport) December 18, 2022

Number None, Sunday, 18 December 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

We recognize that many of our users are active on other social media platforms. However, we will no longer allow free promotion of certain social media platforms on Twitter.

— Twitter Support (@TwitterSupport) December 18, 2022

Number None, Sunday, 18 December 2022 19:43 (one year ago) link

It’s amazing how fundamentally he misunderstands what social media is and why people use it. It’s like someone buying a soccer team for 250% of its actual value and then getting all livid that the players can’t use their hands

frogbs, Sunday, 18 December 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link

seems like he basing it off his experience which is obviously completely atypical

lag∞n, Sunday, 18 December 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

I mean this site was plenty exhausting during the Trump years but it’s so much worse when the dude actually owns the site and just makes up dumb rules on the fly

frogbs, Sunday, 18 December 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

idk trump was genuinely bad for the world, this is just kinda funny imho

lag∞n, Sunday, 18 December 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link

one of those first as tragedy then as farce type situations

lag∞n, Sunday, 18 December 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

Kind of like how many of the Paulie Walnuts storylines on Sopranos were intended to be pathetic mirror images of Tony's.

Chris L, Sunday, 18 December 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

Bet he didn't enjoy it. Looks bloomin miserable. https://t.co/WG3T9dmP90

— Jeremy Morris (@russophiliac) December 18, 2022

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 18 December 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link

For my sins I’ve been on the internet a long time, but I can not remember seeing a forum—of any size—where the mod’s mother was posting about how his bad decisions are actually good. https://t.co/yLgy2X6vT6

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) December 18, 2022

mark s, Sunday, 18 December 2022 21:43 (one year ago) link

.

Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 December 2022 21:53 (one year ago) link

brb, getting my mom to start posting to ilx & arguing that all my posts are otm

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Sunday, 18 December 2022 21:53 (one year ago) link

sums it up

IT IS IMPORTANT TO SPEND YOUR DAY DEFENDING THE ULTRA WEALTHY ONLINE

THEY COULD SEE YOUR POST AND DECIDE YOU GET TO BE THE GUY WHO TURNS A CRANK THAT GRINDS HUMAN BEINGS IN A FINE PASTE

AND WHEN YOUR DAY IN THE GRINDER COMES, THINK OF WHAT PROUD GOO YOU WILL BE

— NOT A WOLF (@SICKOFWOLVES) May 15, 2020

sleeve, Sunday, 18 December 2022 22:04 (one year ago) link

xp

Yeah, I do call AsiaKitty 'the problem child'...what with all the A's she gets and academic and sports awards she wins, so maybe you are right. She got an F once on some quiz where she did all the math backwards by mistake. I posted it up proudly on the fridge. "Right on, Asia! Glad to see you have finally started to RELAX a little :)"
Boy, did THAT piss her off!

I laughed more.

12 year olds are so easy to tease. Actually, I think she was 10 then.

You should see when I get dressed slowly.

"Mom, you are gonna make me LATE!"

"Yeah, but Asia, you don't want to ALWAYS be on time. They might get used to it."

But as soon as she starts posting under a name like "schlongdong" I'll selling those damn Foo Fighter's tickets on Craigslist.org !!!!

― BurmaKitty (BurmaKitty), Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:35 AM (nineteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

jaymc, Sunday, 18 December 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link

Wonder if the World Cup was his "pls don't dismember me I'll get you your $13bn investment back" meeting.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 18 December 2022 22:29 (one year ago) link

Haha! Based on his expression, it probably was.

nickn, Sunday, 18 December 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link

some great posts on the HN thread where they're pouring one out for the the world's stupidest lisp programming and finally realizing musk might not be all there

e.g.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34044183
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34044989
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34044371

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 18 December 2022 23:23 (one year ago) link

*programmer

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 18 December 2022 23:23 (one year ago) link

Not that I care about his happiness but dude truly seems like a guy who doesn’t enjoy much of anything.

I'm just about as sick of reading about Musk as I am about Trump, and many sites I've read have replaced Trump with Musk as new bete noir.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 December 2022 23:42 (one year ago) link

if Musk is depriving Trump of media attention, then I can live with that trade off. Musk is much less dangerous to my mental health.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 18 December 2022 23:49 (one year ago) link

I missed this chat earlier but anybody who thinks that bill gates is a force for *improving* public health in the global south is naive to the point that I hope they have someone who checks in on them to make sure they're okay regularly

plax (ico), Sunday, 18 December 2022 23:52 (one year ago) link

Not that I care about his happiness but dude truly seems like a guy who doesn’t enjoy much of anything.


None of these guys seem to actually enjoy anything.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 19 December 2022 00:02 (one year ago) link

Should I step down as head of Twitter? I will abide by the results of this poll.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 18, 2022

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Monday, 19 December 2022 00:04 (one year ago) link

None of these guys seem to actually enjoy anything.

aside from occult human sacrifice parties you mean

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 19 December 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link

rich Silicon Valley nerds are big on non-sacrificial orgies too IIRC

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 19 December 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

Poor guy flew all the way to Qatar to ask for more money and they said no.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 19 December 2022 00:16 (one year ago) link

As the saying goes, be careful what you wish, as you might get it

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 18, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 19 December 2022 00:19 (one year ago) link

This might be the most successful cyberbullying campaign of all time

No one wants the job who can actually keep Twitter alive. There is no successor.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 19, 2022

frogbs, Monday, 19 December 2022 00:24 (one year ago) link

So what the fuck happened in Qatar?

frogbs, Monday, 19 December 2022 00:38 (one year ago) link

He bet all the remaining money he has on a French victory.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 December 2022 00:41 (one year ago) link

forum mod meltdown Path 3, Stage 9: "it has become clear that no one appreciates the sacrifices i've made to keep this board running" https://t.co/DLOuckspH1

— Actually, (@eaton) December 19, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 19 December 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link

forum mod meltdown Path 3, Stage 9: "it has become clear that no one appreciates the sacrifices i've made to keep this board running"

send Musk complete Buffy DVDs (NOT remastered!!!) or he will ban more journalists

more crankable (sic), Monday, 19 December 2022 00:52 (one year ago) link

You must like pain a lot. One catch: you have to invest your life savings in Twitter and it has been in the fast lane to bankruptcy since May. Still want the job?

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 18, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 19 December 2022 00:58 (one year ago) link

Wonder what happened in May?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 19 December 2022 01:04 (one year ago) link

mad @ saudis?

Those who want power are the ones who least deserve it

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 19, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 19 December 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link

has he been cracking open fortune cookies in a Chinese restaurant the last five hours

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 December 2022 01:40 (one year ago) link

are Chinese restaurants open in Qatar at 3am?

more crankable (sic), Monday, 19 December 2022 01:49 (one year ago) link

some of these tweets seem like they should be in all caps

Karl Malone, Monday, 19 December 2022 01:50 (one year ago) link

According to the video of the incident that Musk posted, the member of the Musk security team confronted Collado sitting in the car wearing gloves and a hood. “Yeah, pretty sure. Got you,” the Musk security team member can be heard saying on the video.

What took place between the two men before they arrived at the gas station is unknown. There’s no indication in videos shared with The Post that Musk’s children were present.

no mention of the claim that the guy jumped on grimes car, one wld think the police wouldve arrested him if so

lag∞n, Monday, 19 December 2022 01:57 (one year ago) link

Wonder what happened in May?

Some kind of Wicker Man stuff maybe?

A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 December 2022 01:57 (one year ago) link

the guy is obviously unwell but elon could easily be tracking him

lag∞n, Monday, 19 December 2022 02:00 (one year ago) link

Erdogan and Elon Musk shake hands in Doha during the World Cup Final Match pic.twitter.com/eKqr9sDelD

— Ragıp Soylu (@ragipsoylu) December 18, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 19 December 2022 02:14 (one year ago) link

Yeah elon hanging around with Jared K and various members of the House of Saud is just what we needed at this time.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 19 December 2022 02:18 (one year ago) link

Multi-billionaires and autocrats always have mutual interests to talk about.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 19 December 2022 02:19 (one year ago) link

"How can we kill these people but extract as much value from them first via enslavement?"

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 19 December 2022 02:19 (one year ago) link

I know I shouldn't be surprised by these people anymore but my lord

One thing that just occurred to me: using internal Twitter analytics, this poll (given its perceived gravity) could provide some really interesting data on how some accounts organize to manufacture the perception of consensus, especially if some of that is measurably coordinated.

— Jan Jekielek (@JanJekielek) December 19, 2022

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 December 2022 03:16 (one year ago) link

lol that guy works for the moonie newspaper

lag∞n, Monday, 19 December 2022 03:20 (one year ago) link

man it must be wild to be working at Twitter right now

frogbs, Monday, 19 December 2022 03:25 (one year ago) link

Seeing him with all these autocrats, if I were an opposition politician or dissenter in any of those countries, I'd get the hell off Twitter.

I know I shouldn't be surprised by these people anymore but my lord

🐦[One thing that just occurred to me: using internal Twitter analytics, this poll (given its perceived gravity) could provide some really interesting data on how some accounts organize to manufacture the perception of consensus, especially if some of that is measurably coordinated.
— Jan Jekielek (@JanJekielek) December 19, 2022🕸]🐦


Laugh at this, but the right wing are really starting coalesce around the idea that elections don’t represent “The True Will Of The People”.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 19 December 2022 03:33 (one year ago) link

People really love a perceived Big Strong Daddy who will take care of them. The constant mental gymnastics they have to do to uphold that image must be a part of the appeal because fuck, it’s gotta be exhausting.

circa1916, Monday, 19 December 2022 03:37 (one year ago) link

If Zuckerberg had a spine he’d revert Facebook and Instagram to 2010 levels of shittiness and wipe Twitter out overnight.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 19 December 2022 04:13 (one year ago) link

much to talk about in this photo

pic.twitter.com/UD803mbKRB

— marge (@mags_mclaugh) December 19, 2022

frogbs, Monday, 19 December 2022 04:32 (one year ago) link

the belt buckle is something horrible, isn't it

mookieproof, Monday, 19 December 2022 04:40 (one year ago) link

can't stop staring at the bottom left guy, he's basically sickos.png

frogbs, Monday, 19 December 2022 04:43 (one year ago) link

Depends who you get to run it ! 🤔

— Tom Anderson (@myspacetom) December 19, 2022

, Monday, 19 December 2022 12:22 (one year ago) link

Lol at all these fucking idiots claiming it was rigged

Hey @elonmusk, it’s unwise to run a poll like this when you are now deep state enemy #1. They have the biggest bot army on Twitter. They have 100k ‘analysts’ with 30-40 accounts all voting against you. Let’s clean up and then run this poll again. The majority has faith in you. 😘 https://t.co/y2piyeE84a

— Kim Dotcom (@KimDotcom) December 19, 2022

groovypanda, Monday, 19 December 2022 12:22 (one year ago) link

It's not like he said when.

nashwan, Monday, 19 December 2022 12:31 (one year ago) link

tfw you buckle up and don’t notice your shirt has got caught up in the machinery

Tracer Hand, Monday, 19 December 2022 13:04 (one year ago) link

Won't you guide my sleigh tonight?

— George Wallace (@MrGeorgeWallace) December 19, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 December 2022 14:10 (one year ago) link

https://media3.giphy.com/media/xpdQAcVTTo3ZBj3UVS/giphy.gif

let that sink out

frogbs, Monday, 19 December 2022 14:32 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/lYoJpxeWDX

— LeSubstack Triller Moth (@legotrillermoth) December 16, 2022

frogbs, Monday, 19 December 2022 14:42 (one year ago) link

(note the date)

frogbs, Monday, 19 December 2022 14:42 (one year ago) link

he hasnt posted since this 16 hours ago, hes in saudi dungeon signing over his tesla shares

Those who want power are the ones who least deserve it

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 19, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 19 December 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

Do you like me?

( ) yes
( ) no

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 19 December 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

maybe he finally crashed after weeks of no sleep

sleeve, Monday, 19 December 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

maybe he finally crashed after driving one of his cars

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, 19 December 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link

i was joking but the saudis absolutely would kidnap him for a lil while if they felt like it

lag∞n, Monday, 19 December 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

please don’t give out my assassination coordinates before I go hang out with a bunch of murderers with billions invested in the thing I’m plainly fucking up

Clay, Monday, 19 December 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

i was joking but the saudis absolutely would kidnap him for a lil while if they felt like it

― lag∞n

then let him go after spending an hour with him

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 December 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

LOL

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 19 December 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

elon heading to a meeting of twitter investors stepping alone into an elevator with the saudi bone saw guy

— tom mckay (@thetomzone) December 18, 2022

, Monday, 19 December 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkTTcKwXgAU3TOQ?format=jpg&name=large

noted sports fan elon musk hopping on a 15 hour flight to take in the world cup with his best friends

lag∞n, Monday, 19 December 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

he looks absolutely thrilled to be there too!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 19 December 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link

he left qatar via london luton hours ago. still has all his fingers.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 19 December 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

Wearing a worn-out t-shirt to an event viewed by the entire world is quite a power move.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 19 December 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

jfc caek are you trying to get him killed

frogbs, Monday, 19 December 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

mods

lag∞n, Monday, 19 December 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

So I guess also don't drink this dude's coffee...

Elon is taking Twitter policy advice from a dude who was banned from Magic: The Gathering events for harassing women and pissed on his own floor during a live stream because he was mad his wife got pizza without him https://t.co/y6gqnfHnNM

— James Dator (@James_Dator) December 19, 2022

“Live stream”

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 19 December 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

He had better find a cure for cancer, because Mars has no magnetosphere and its surface is constantly blasted by radiation. https://t.co/1HiD6i6glA

— Adrian (@blagojevism) December 19, 2022

borrowed Ostalgia for the unremembered 80s (MoominTrollin), Monday, 19 December 2022 22:03 (one year ago) link

Gotta pay for Blue if you want to cyberbully him from here on out.

Interesting, looking into this pic.twitter.com/GnIbywFCah

— Ashley Feinberg (@ashleyfeinberg) December 19, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 19 December 2022 23:59 (one year ago) link

interesting

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link

What does catturd2 think?

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

This is a good idea, I think in the future instead of asking everyone if they hate me I will just ask people who've had their tongues cut out

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 00:40 (one year ago) link

love the idea that an $8 monthly subscription is "skin in the game"

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 01:08 (one year ago) link

*holds out palm* gimme some skin*!

*8 bucks

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 01:09 (one year ago) link

He's kind of acting like a vulture capitalist but forgetting the part where you extract money from the thing before you kill it. He's gone in reverse, he can never get out of it anything close to what he put into it. Stripped for parts, what's Twitter worth? I guess he could, like, auction off Lady Gaga's DMs or something.

Wearing a worn-out t-shirt to an event viewed by the entire world is quite a power move.

My first thought was that he was ripping-off Zelenskyy's olive green shirt look

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 04:36 (one year ago) link

xp
Or turn them into NFTs.

nickn, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 08:07 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/nrBUTahGsk

— america's lounge singer (@KrangTNelson) December 20, 2022

Number None, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 09:34 (one year ago) link

I'm no expert on management but running a poll to establish whether you should stay in charge of things seems an incredibly stupid thing to do, how would you build employee trust after that?

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 10:08 (one year ago) link

Employee what?

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 14:56 (one year ago) link

lmao he's establishing his own apartheid system on Twitter now that the poll didn't go his way

frogbs, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link

Legendary posting week: using your ex’s stalker to win a fight by fabricating a threat against your kid, having your mom show up to defend you, banning anyone who questions your story, then losing the poll you created about whether you should remain a mod

— orwellian untweet (@jesseltaylor) December 19, 2022

frogbs, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

Tesla down 4% since opening. Rapidly approaching $140. I wonder when the margin calls kick in.

bit high, bitch (gyac), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link

yeah I gotta imagine it's somewhere around the 125-130 mark. pretty significant because Elon would lose an insane amount of cash should that actually happen

frogbs, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

Yes, but that's all part of the plan!

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link

do ultra-rich people and hedge funds ever really get margin calls these days? assumed that was a tool used to punish small investors trying to horn in on profits from the backroom deals the big boys have made

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

it happened in the 2011 film margin call

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link

actually im not sure if it did happen theyve mightve just named it that cause it sounds cool, i cant remember even tho i watched it recently, pretty sick movie tbf

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

down another 6% today lmao

frogbs, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link

“I got rid of the bot problem”
[loses a poll with a sample size of ~17,000,000 by a significant margin]
“The bots are back, folks” pic.twitter.com/I8mK0ZsZMA

— Healthy Masculinity Guru (@PerfectGameLex) December 20, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

the margin calls are made by banks or other financial businesses that are bigger than the hedge funds and ultra-rich, and they don't take kindly to losing money they don't have to lose. it's the legal (and politer) form of the lender breaking the arm of the debtor to encourage prompt payment.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

yeah I think conceptually the 2008 financial crisis was precipitated by a few giant margin calls

, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

i would do it i dont care who it is they have my money and not enough margin im gonna make that call you best believe

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

the pension fund insolvency panic of six weeks ago -- which toppled a uk prime minister if u recall -- was driven by margin calls, they haven't gone away lol

mark s, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link

two months not six weeks

mark s, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 19:00 (one year ago) link

The beclowning continues

Musk now claiming his OWN POLL, run on a platform that HE OWNS, was rigged against him.

Beyond parody. pic.twitter.com/0yw9wrrDh2

— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) December 20, 2022

in the meantime enjoy this game

http://stockjump.sos.gd/?symbol=TSLA¤cy=USD&name=TESLA%20INC

frogbs, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 21:31 (one year ago) link

so basically a majority of americans want him to stay, the rest of the world wants him to fuck off

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 21:33 (one year ago) link

I'm highly skeptical of any poll runner who uncritically retweeted Musk's response above.

Is Harris X legit? Is it even associated with the actual Harris Poll?

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 21:42 (one year ago) link

YouGov poll today of 2,356 U.S. adults:
Should Elon Musk step down as head of Twitter?

42% yes, 33% no

Among people with an opinion:

56% yes, 44% nohttps://t.co/ASiLHijnsM https://t.co/vg9d042XNx pic.twitter.com/PUQaYgvwxA

— YouGov America (@YouGovAmerica) December 20, 2022

symsymsym, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link

What a weird thing to be talking about anyway. Who cares how many people want him to stay or go? I don't even have an opinion on it, he's kind of hilarious right now and he doesn't owe me any money so I don't really care.

It's a fascinating case study of the narcissist's insatiable need for validation.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 22:06 (one year ago) link

this is all sideshow attempt to distract and deflect by attracting and mesmerizing; profits are tanking is the actual story

but people gotta write articles and binge
the main character doesn't generally hang around this long but it's the season finale after all

honestly it's a tough call, idk which of the two options is funnier

frogbs, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 22:25 (one year ago) link

he's also becoming a Q-Anon darling

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 22:31 (one year ago) link

sorry, what?

The press release said that authorities later learned that the alleged “suspect involved in this case is believed to be a member of Elon Musk’s security team.”

bit high, bitch (gyac), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

I feel like Mike Judge deserves residuals for this season of Silicon Valley.

Still trying! pic.twitter.com/SUvF1T4skd

— Cody Johnston (@drmistercody) December 21, 2022

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link

holy cow he is shockingly dumb

Saved it for the lulz pic.twitter.com/qrKG7RmUDS

— @sa✧✧✧@mastoui✧✧✧.f✧ (@pwnsdx) December 21, 2022

frogbs, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

The person asking the question there is ex-twitter and one of the worlds foremost experts on performance tuning. Extremely hardcore.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

"Musk's Democracy"

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link

Democracy Blue

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

one NFT = 1 vote

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

jesus christ, there is nothing at all weird or uncomfortable about that question.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link

There is if you can’t answer it

castanuts (DJP), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

that's the greatest video of all time right there. just dying

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

the emperor's clothes are on backorder

if this is a bad q its ok but srsly how much does el*n actually know about coding/comp sci in general?

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link

very little, aiui

sleeve, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

I disagree he’s very real and very hardcore

Clay, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link

he knows "how to code" but seems to have very little knowledge of the higher level architectural aspects of making software is what it seems like, which is completely insufficient for making engineering decisions for a huge site like twitter

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

I think he holds a bachelor's degree? but he's not been doing a lot of coding/engineering for a while, he's a very lucky investor who became ceo

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link

he's a sad sad man

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link

seems like he thinks he knows more than he does prob because workers at his other companies have been gassing him up while manipulating him into agreeing with what they want to do

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 21:04 (one year ago) link

its pretty funny once you see the pattern in his "engineering" career, basically his company merged with paypal early on and people have been managing him up every since, as least as far as the technical stuff, the more business things idk

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 21:07 (one year ago) link

it was pretty funny when he thought the twitter app was making thousands of requests on every load, just a very not reasonable thing to believe

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 21:09 (one year ago) link

guys he said “stack” he’s for sure a player

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 21:10 (one year ago) link

I like a full stack when it comes to software

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 21:19 (one year ago) link

and pancakes

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 21:20 (one year ago) link

elon bringing a banana to a gunfight

mh, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 22:14 (one year ago) link

I think the main thing that pisses me off is this is only the most egregious example of mediocre white men failing upwards into extreme wealth. Fuck em and put their heads on spikes afaic.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 23:04 (one year ago) link

regret to inform that I listened to a longer segment and Elon had some ok points, but they were pretty shallow so they were likely cribbed from other people he'd talked to

mh, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

Thom's committed to never playing Minneapolis again even though ticket sales would be through the roof

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 23:33 (one year ago) link

Thanks Elon

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 23:36 (one year ago) link

Lol oops

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 23:49 (one year ago) link

twitter crappier more unproductive

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link

a pig
in a cage
on rogaine

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 22 December 2022 01:45 (one year ago) link

Elon is both a creep and a weirdo, it’s true.

How is this account not banned yet

Tesla has just been informed by the NHTSA that our cars pose an “imminent threat” to all drivers & are demanding an immediate recall of all vehicles w auto pilot. We are going to fight this to the end, but I’m being forced to announce the immediate recall of our entire fleet. 1/2

— Elon Musk CEO Tesla Motors, SpaceX & etc (parody) (@h3h3productions) December 22, 2022

bit high, bitch (gyac), Thursday, 22 December 2022 08:52 (one year ago) link

They were one of the accounts that got banned in early November. I was surprised they were back. Now banned again.

peace, man, Thursday, 22 December 2022 13:16 (one year ago) link

TSLA down another 6% today, lmao

frogbs, Thursday, 22 December 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link

gotta look on the bright side it can only go down 100%

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 15:49 (one year ago) link

Below $130!

bit high, bitch (gyac), Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

“Shares drop for a fourth consecutive session and 11th out of the past 13 as they head toward worst month, quarter and year on record”

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

BREAKING: Tesla is now offering a discount of $7,500 (up from $3,750) for anyone that takes delivery of a new/inventory Model Y or Model 3 in the US before the end of this year.

Buyers will still also get 10,000 free Supercharger miles. pic.twitter.com/BsPubjA7iG

— Sawyer Merritt (@SawyerMerritt) December 22, 2022

This is actually a better deal than the $7,500 IRA EV credit would be in 2023 since this is $7,500 directly off the car (and your tax bill on the car is lower due to this) and you get 10,000 free Supercharger miles. The IRA EV credit only starts to be a POS rebate in 2024.

— Sawyer Merritt (@SawyerMerritt) December 22, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

trying to cram some extra sales into this quarter

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link

Don’t think this one was posted

man who recently bought website for $44 billion dollars infuriated to hear the basics of online advertising accurately explained pic.twitter.com/SkYzIXAy11

— caleb gamman (@calebgamman) December 21, 2022

bit high, bitch (gyac), Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link

can you turn this guy off hes just talking nonsense

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

yeah teslas went from like months to years long waitlists to like "we're gonna give you all this shit for free if you buy" no wonder the stock is tanking, plus take into account whatever elon needs to sell before year end

, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link

Tbf the discount is apparently forced by the new fed incentive that starts Jan 1. No one will buy a car until Jan 1 otherwise.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

yeah but thats a really big discount, a sign of some sort of pain on teslas part, either trying to spiff up a bad quarter or they just have so many cars it makes sense to offer 15% off rather than just wait and sell them in the new year

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link

15% + miles tbf

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

I know you’ll enjoy this guy’s tl lagoon

Just sold 2% of my $TSLA to stay below 20% margin balance. Painful but necessary. Better to sell a bit now rather than wait to get margin called at a lower price. Will buy back these shares after selling my house. First time I’ve sold $TSLA since margin called in 2018.

— Jason DeBolt ⚡️ (@jasondebolt) December 22, 2022

bit high, bitch (gyac), Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

jesus lol what is wrong with these people its just a company

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

how tho

Tesla will be worth way more than Apple + Saudi Aramco by 2030 ($4 trillion). @elonmusk made a similar prediction in 2015 when he said Tesla would be worth $700 billion by 2025.

Tesla ended up being worth $700 billion by December 2020, 5 years earlier than predicted. https://t.co/AB76D671fS pic.twitter.com/pxWQ8UOnPj

— Jason DeBolt ⚡️ (@jasondebolt) October 20, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

yeah at this point they're just doing the "Bitcoin losing 50% of its value is actually necessary and a sign that it will 10x in value over the next five years" thing

frogbs, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

He knows how ads are currently run; he's indicating that they can be better targeted with much lower CAC. Advertisers say they want to target x type of person in y region. Those are the wrong variables.

— KO_Sulli (@KO_Sulli) December 21, 2022

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link

people who pay for online advertising with risky placement love being told how they should spend their ad dollars, especially when the distribution company might not be around in two months

i love confidence

https://i.imgur.com/NgLmRoP.png

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link

yeah taht whole subthread is delightful

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

pretty funny to watch all these people argue with a 64 follow account with an av of a sports car, its probably a teenager

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link

So fucking depressing to see actual human beings stanning for a billionaire and they’re not even being paid to do it. In the 19th century were there stans and super fans of Andrew Carnegie or James J Hill?

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 22 December 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

So fucking depressing to see actual human beings stanning for a billionaire and they’re not even being paid to do it. In the 19th century were there stans and super fans of Andrew Carnegie or James J Hill?

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 22 December 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

idk probably, people like a winner they want to be associated with that, thats how you go nazi

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link

rooting for elon musk is like rooting for US Steel

Karl Malone, Thursday, 22 December 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link

I'm sure there were more stans in an era where there was a sliver of possibility that you, too, you could be a wealthy business owner, but in 2022 lol.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 December 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

People love Avatar and the Yankees

Capitalism is a virus, they're trying to get infected by rubbing elbows

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 December 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link

i asked google "what was andrew carnegie like" but it chose instead to answer this question: "why was carnegie a good person?"

ans = "in addition to funding libraries, he paid for thousands of church organs in the united states and around the world"

i stan the organ tycoon and so shd you

mark s, Thursday, 22 December 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link

down over 10% now, man it is taaaanking

frogbs, Thursday, 22 December 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link

73d chess

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 December 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

barron's has got me HOOKED with this sneak peak of the analysis behind the paywall

Tesla TSLA –10.29% stock was down again Thursday. It has nothing to do with Twitter. The reason is much more serious.

The mix of inflation and rising interest rates have made used-car prices too expensive for many buyers.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/ford-tesla-carmax-used-car-prices-51671725166

Karl Malone, Thursday, 22 December 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link

https://archive.vn/y1u5f

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

i created a simple infographic to explain the abrupt change in $TSLA's stock price trend pic.twitter.com/y7GLM2Eh5V

— Patrick Cosmos (@veryimportant) December 22, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 22 December 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

xp ty lagoon!

Karl Malone, Thursday, 22 December 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

Huh. For some reason I was under the impression car prices - new and used - had somewhat stabilized.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 December 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

car financing has gotten more expensive though (via rising interest rates)

, Thursday, 22 December 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

it's amazing this stock is tanking solely on the (true) perception that the CEO is a fucking idiot and not because of the issues with the cars themselves.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 22 December 2022 18:13 (one year ago) link

well the stock did go up like 20x on the perception that he was the smartest most handsome man on earth

frogbs, Thursday, 22 December 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

I think it's possible that the suddenly inescapable visibility of the CEO, cast and casting himself in the worst possible light, have enticed those simply along for the ride (in every sense) to look closer at the stock and its valuation.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 December 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

xp ty lagoon!

― Karl Malone, Thursday, December 22, 2022 1:02 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

np i recommend the archive page browser extension as a component of everyones paywall avoidance schemes, or if youre on mobile you can just c&p on https://archive.ph/

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

that is the fucking LINK OF THE DAY (archive.ph), thank you! the internet has truly delivered today, and today the internet is lagoon

Karl Malone, Thursday, 22 December 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link

bless

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

with $7k off, the cheapest tesla is still like $50k, huh

mh, Thursday, 22 December 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link

and thats the one that was supposed to be 30k lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link

the affordable tesla is as much as a mid tier bmw

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 19:00 (one year ago) link

sadly the Free Speech add-on is an additional 44 billion.

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 December 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link

BREAKING $TSLA

U.S. LAUNCHES TWO NEW SPECIAL CRASH INVESTIGATIONS INTO TESLA VEHICLES WHERE DRIVER ASSISTANCE SYSTEMS ARE SUSPECTED OF USE - via NHTSA

— Stock Swing Alert (@StockSwingAlert) December 22, 2022

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 22 December 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link

the best chasing post ever there:

"U.S. LAUNCHES TWO NEW SPECIAL CRASH INVESTIGATIONS🤔

When do they start investigating the POISON JAB🧐"

normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Thursday, 22 December 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link

best freshman year roommate ever

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ff3GjEEX0AAN66F?format=jpg&name=small

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 December 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link

elon's an elite polytopian

Chess is a simple game. Understandable when all we had to play with were squirrels 🐿 and rocks🪨, but now we have computers 💻.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 6, 2022

Polytopia is *way* better imo, if you like strategy games

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 6, 2022

Aquarion and Polaris

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 6, 2022

Karl Malone, Thursday, 22 December 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link

I thought he only liked spawn positions for the purpose of human reproduction?

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 22 December 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

https://www.wsj.com/articles/elon-musk-twitter-advertisers-exodus-11671722594

About 70% of Twitter’s top 100 ad spenders from before Mr. Musk’s takeover weren’t spending on the platform as of the week ending Dec. 18, according to an analysis of data from research firm Pathmatics. It’s a problem the billionaire can’t afford to ignore, since roughly 89% of Twitter’s $5.1 billion in revenue last year came from ads.

, Thursday, 22 December 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

elon otm re kasparov tbf: he is an idiot

mark s, Thursday, 22 December 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

game recognize game

He should challenge him to a stupid-off.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 December 2022 20:33 (one year ago) link

Elon Susk

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 December 2022 20:35 (one year ago) link

that might be a good opportunity for someone to revive the flying dick scheme

Karl Malone, Thursday, 22 December 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

elon otm re kasparov tbf: he is an idiot

― mark s, Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:16 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

just cause someone has different beliefs than you like thinking jesus was born in crimea in 1152 doesnt make them an idiot

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 20:58 (one year ago) link

it's time for musk to buy kickstarter, then redirect all the funds towards twitter.. queen takes pawn

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 23 December 2022 02:25 (one year ago) link

"but this money was for Timmy's heart surgery"

"yes, but if we don't take it, you won't have a Twitter to post about it on. think before you talk."

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 December 2022 02:29 (one year ago) link

ok I was going to say that pattern would make more sense but Neanderthal has gone a step further and confused both with gofundme

although a kickstarter for heart surgery would be great, you buy a heart replacement that's obviously meant to be cobbled together from Alibaba components but they never figure it out and you receive nothing

mh, Friday, 23 December 2022 02:33 (one year ago) link

not pattern, patreon

mh, Friday, 23 December 2022 02:33 (one year ago) link

lol i should know better, I've donated to kickstarters before. must be bitter that anything I funded never materialized.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 December 2022 02:35 (one year ago) link

"thanks for your support, back to the drawing board"

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 23 December 2022 02:35 (one year ago) link

"Guys, Twitter is a little short on funds to make payroll this month - if anyone is able to chip in, we've got some great schwag and we'll let you zoom into the board meetings!"

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 23 December 2022 02:37 (one year ago) link

patreon is a good fit because it's "I'm uh making content please fund me"
kickstarter is "I'm going to deliver you this thing if it works out. you're a gadget guy, right? ok nevermind your success rate is higher buying random shit on aliexpress"
gofundme is "my house burned down again and also gamgam needs money to get her arm amputated and we have no social safety net"

if Elon buys out patreon then maybe the owners never have to make a pomplamoose song again

Elon is definitely a gadget guy to some extent, though. I bet he'd be into one of those cool Flipper hacking devices but then try to figure out how to put tweets on it

mh, Friday, 23 December 2022 02:39 (one year ago) link

Watching @elonmusk + Co take over Twitter is like watching a business school case study on how to make money on the internet. Amazing that at some level it is so basic. Lesson one: charge your power users what they are willing to pay. 1/3

— Jessica Lessin (@Jessicalessin) October 31, 2022

Lesson two: Lock up your core customers (advertisers) by going on a listening tour and asking them what works and what doesn't. Make sure to land a few key public commitments. Focus on the head not the long tail.

— Jessica Lessin (@Jessicalessin) October 31, 2022

Lesson 3: Cut costs dramatically and do it fast and all at once to get it over with. Elevate a few key people (including some veterans) to promote internal cohesion.

Not rocket science. They will succeed because they can do it outside the public shareholder eye.

3/3

— Jessica Lessin (@Jessicalessin) October 31, 2022

which lesson are we on now

frogbs, Friday, 23 December 2022 03:27 (one year ago) link

I'm starting to think they're not completely wrong. If the user attrition through the site being a garbage experience doesn't turn off enough people, with the advertisers noting that, they'll weather this and we'll get a different twitter

I mean, what's the alternative right now for quick bits of interesting news and bait tweets, because facebook isn't it and every website tries to send push notifications that are annoying and most local/national news is more obtrusively ad-heavy and has chumboxes 2.0

I think if Elon can attract a few dozen code perverts who understand how to refactor the site to not just keep it performant, but cut costs (with blips and dips in usability and experience), there's the possibility things somehow work. I hope I'm wrong! But the thing he absolutely could not explain, but engineers have, is that large portions of twitter are very bespoke because the technologies to do what they wanted to at scale didn't exist. They're now pretty much solved problems. I significantly doubt he has the leadership skills to push it through, but the idea that the ability to do useful features is hamstrung by: more programmers = more lines of code to do less = increasing technical debt? I could buy it. Which is hilarious when you think that they prioritized layoffs inverse to lines of code

thoughts that are probably better spent on the ilx programming thread but idk

mh, Friday, 23 December 2022 03:42 (one year ago) link

the funniest thing that was mentioned on the twitter spaces discussion that Elon contributed, and was probably a gimme for him because it was known but prior leadership thought of it as annoying to tackle, was sms messages for two factor auth

I guess they were spending 60 million a year to telcos outside the US to send sms two factor messages, and someone at twitter suspected that shady providers were charging them for duplicates or even using bots to bump the number of auth requests. which is an amazing business idea tbh

mh, Friday, 23 December 2022 03:44 (one year ago) link

word is they've lost 70% of their top advertisers and Elon himself said they were losing a shitload of money

I agree there's no real replacement for it but like 50% of the shit happening on Twitter is ABOUT Twitter now and Elon seems determined to fuck things up enough that it's not going to go back to the way it was. I mean it's an app that you're counting on people to be on ALL THE TIME, doesn't take much of a drop in quality of user experience to turn people off

frogbs, Friday, 23 December 2022 03:50 (one year ago) link

a business school case study on how to make money on the internet.

but has he made any money?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 23 December 2022 04:14 (one year ago) link

wow I bet frogbs feels embarrassed about linking to that now

more crankable (sic), Friday, 23 December 2022 04:27 (one year ago) link

honestly I'm still floored he made "tweet views" a thing. it's such a dumb metric - nobody cares how much a tweet was "viewed"! if it has a high number the thing that'll stand out is the comparatively low amounts of likes and RTs which is the thing Twitter users have actually cared about for like 15 years now. the fact that the CEO unilaterally made this happen speaks to how little this dude knows about how people actually use the website he grossly overpaid for. he knows less than I do! I mean up until he bought Twitter I was always willing to accept that maybe this guy sees things I don't but man he really has proven himself to be just as dumb as everyone says he is

frogbs, Friday, 23 December 2022 04:39 (one year ago) link

i assume he wants advertisers to see that "hey look tweets get so many views!" but surely these metrics exist on the advertising side of things and also i hate to underestimate elon musk (a genius of business)

Clay, Friday, 23 December 2022 04:42 (one year ago) link

the fact that the CEO unilaterally made this happen speaks to how little this dude knows about how people actually use the website he grossly overpaid for.

Maybe he wants everyone using Twitter to feel as humiliated as he does.

circa1916, Friday, 23 December 2022 07:33 (one year ago) link

heh

This is what you wanted people to see? pic.twitter.com/maLcjrM5Cf

— Leander Schaerlaeckens (@LeanderAlphabet) December 23, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 23 December 2022 12:52 (one year ago) link

everything is cool

lag∞n, Friday, 23 December 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link

Everything is everything.

A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 December 2022 14:07 (one year ago) link

uluv2c it

https://i.imgur.com/XzdTLP7.png

mark s, Friday, 23 December 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link

jeez, it must be old news but i didn't realize that musk has a trans daughter who changed her name to avoid being associated with him, and that musk blames it all on "full-on communism" in universities

Karl Malone, Friday, 23 December 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

this musk guy seems like he might be a bad father, to boot!!

Karl Malone, Friday, 23 December 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

Nonsense, he's pretty sure how many offspring he's produced.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 23 December 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link

shows you how brainwashed Elon fanboys are where one of my best friends, who has a trans child and has been vocally supportive of safe spaces, encourages guests of his business to wear a nametag with their pronouns, etc, continues to stan for this guy, only willing to concede that he's an 'asshole'. like the friend is one of the kindest, most inclusive people I know, so it's so jarring for him to stan for this 'one guy'.

their child is probably not amused and I just don't know how much further down this rabbit hole he can go before he just admits "enough". at this point I think it's a refusal to admit he's been wrong for two years than actually caping for Elon anymore. i hope so at least.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 December 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

just like, the one element of his identity that isn't progressive = supporting this guy

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 December 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link

I know it’s kind of a very tangential take, but it’s always kind of bothered me that Telsa the man become kind of the go-to groovy spiritual science guy for people rebelling against the Einstein’s Raspberry dorm room posters of earlier generations.

A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 December 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link

Became

A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 December 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link

the tesla board is frantically trying to figure out if they can oust this guy right now, right?

there are undoubtedly other ceos with terrible views out there, but they either don’t speak publicly or they keep to the normal ceo script. this guy’s out here alienating every other human on a daily basis

mh, Friday, 23 December 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link

i imagine the tesla board is stuck? if it dumps elon, then tesla becomes just another car company, and one that isn't even particularly good at making cars

tesla needs musk to go back to being a ~visionary who is saving humanity~ but i think that ship has sailed

mookieproof, Friday, 23 December 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link

I was kind of on a tear last night, but it’s worth noting that the Elon-optimistic person frogs posted tweets from (Jessica Lessin) runs a ridiculously pro-tech/vc publication that positions itself as insider information for SV and investors. she and her husband (a former facebook vp) are apparently friends with the Zuckerbergs

afaict it’s at least $30/month and, while it might have some researched articles, is mostly a circle-jerk. basically the anti-valleywag

mh, Friday, 23 December 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

xp yeah, they’re probably stuck

mh, Friday, 23 December 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

here is my elon musk compliment sandwich

AGREED TO MEET WITH SBF ONLY "So long as I don't have to have a laborious blockchain debate"

... fash, abuses employees, liar, seeks to destroy transit, boring/never funny ...

LIKES POLYTOPIA

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 23 December 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link

lol

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 December 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

I know it’s kind of a very tangential take, but it’s always kind of bothered me that Telsa the man become kind of the go-to groovy spiritual science guy for people rebelling against the Einstein’s Raspberry dorm room posters of earlier generations.

― A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, December 23, 2022 11:19 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah apparently the google founders are nikola tesla adherents too its common in those circles, i think they like the tragedy of it, they identify with him, theyre unrecognized unremunerated geniuses, even tho now theyre totally recognized and remunerated they still feel the world doesnt appreciate exactly how brilliant they are, all these guys needless to say are in actuality total edisons

lag∞n, Friday, 23 December 2022 18:13 (one year ago) link

lol https://t.co/pr9u1vFQxi pic.twitter.com/AAAPmgVCAG

— Atrios (@Atrios) December 23, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 23 December 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

tbf every one of these dim bulbs is working on their own DEATH BEAM

mark s, Friday, 23 December 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

one thing i *would* try to do if i were part of tesla's board is stop elon from poaching its engineers to go work at twitter, because that's absurd

mookieproof, Friday, 23 December 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link

#OneCompany

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 December 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

i frankly don't understand hero worship.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 23 December 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

yeah its odd

lag∞n, Friday, 23 December 2022 18:33 (one year ago) link

carnegies organs tho

mark s, Friday, 23 December 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link

So fucking depressing to see actual human beings stanning for a billionaire and they’re not even being paid to do it. In the 19th century were there stans and super fans of Andrew Carnegie or James J Hill?

― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, December 22, 2022 12:12 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

was thinking about this and the answer is yes absolutely, how to win friends and influence people is one of the best selling books of all time, carnegie was if anything more popular than musk

lag∞n, Friday, 23 December 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

lol just realized dale carnegie is totally unrelated person, apologies, carry on

lag∞n, Friday, 23 December 2022 18:39 (one year ago) link

anyway people probably liked andrew carnegie, people are sickos

lag∞n, Friday, 23 December 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

one of dale's descendants lives a couple of doors down the street from me.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 23 December 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

has he won you as a friend and influenced you

lag∞n, Friday, 23 December 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

she's ok

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 23 December 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link

wz gnna say ("carnegie (/ˈkɑːrnɪɡi/;[1] spelled carnagey until c. 1922") but lol turns out dale confirms and affirms the argt after all: "by 1916, dale conducted a sold out lecture at carnegie hall, which influenced his decision in 1919 to change the spelling of his last name in honor of the steel magnate, andrew carnegie, and easier for others to remember.[15]"

mark s, Friday, 23 December 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link

it's a good book despite the name, the lesson is basically if you want something from someone be nice to them instead of being mean... there now you don't need to read the book

, Friday, 23 December 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link

How to win friends and influence people: practice, man, practice

pilk/pall revolting odors (wins), Friday, 23 December 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

nice

Tracer Hand, Friday, 23 December 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link

Charles Manson swore by the book

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 December 2022 20:22 (one year ago) link

How does it stack up next to Emotional Intelligence?

A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 December 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link

It's a good book but the Dale Carnegie speaking to you is totally a stan for the tycoons, partly because he's trying to convince you that with these techniques you will become a better salesman (true) and eventually a tycoon (false).

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 23 December 2022 22:57 (one year ago) link

a good salesman always tells you you're made of the right stuff to be a tycoon

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 23 December 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link

worship of millionaire "geniuses" is all over the 20th century - Edison, Ford, Henry Kaiser, Hugo Stinnes, obviously Steve Jobs, Bill Gates in a different way, and so on...

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 24 December 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link

Elon arches his eyebrow, strokes his chin, composes the Tweet: “Chess. Nothing more than a children’s game 🤣🤣🤣” as his Tesla sails off a cliff making fart noises.

Muskboys: true genius, taking out a second mortgage

circa1916, Saturday, 24 December 2022 02:20 (one year ago) link

incredible pic.twitter.com/5Uv6JZR0Yt

— Jules Suzdaltsev (@jules_su) December 24, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 24 December 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

i had to know what the joke was. i figured it was the hilarious prosecute/fauci pronouns one. but let's see your knee survive THIS:

"If I had a dollar for every time someone asked me if Trump is coming back on this platform, Twitter would be minting money!"

Karl Malone, Saturday, 24 December 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

he was right to fire him

lag∞n, Saturday, 24 December 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

3.7m views 17.3k likes pic.twitter.com/PZu8RJTDAy

— tom mckay (@thetomzone) December 24, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 24 December 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

just keep on unplugging stuff

lag∞n, Saturday, 24 December 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

i love how the "move fast and break stuff" philosophy extends to irl trying to break stuff. he is a failure until something new has broken. and then when it breaks, i'm pretty sure elon isn't the one who has to fix it. he knows a guy

Karl Malone, Saturday, 24 December 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

graphql

— New New York Times (@NYT_first_said) December 24, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 24 December 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

lmao

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 24 December 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link

Lol

castanuts (DJP), Saturday, 24 December 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link

not sure how much further he can take the mask off

kek

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 25, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 26 December 2022 02:05 (one year ago) link

Be a real shame if more white nationalists bought cars that lock you inside while you burn to death.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 26 December 2022 02:20 (one year ago) link

The guy’s just immolating himself (again, like a Tesla owner).

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 26 December 2022 09:07 (one year ago) link

Is that specifically a Nazi thing now? I just remember it as a WoW thing

castanuts (DJP), Monday, 26 December 2022 13:36 (one year ago) link

Online “lol”-esque expression with a mostly harmless origin that, like Pepe, was sucked into the alt-right asshole and toxically shat out.

Iirc

circa1916, Monday, 26 December 2022 13:44 (one year ago) link

it's definitely not specifically a Nazi thing

c u (crüt), Monday, 26 December 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link

the gonzo milo trumpoids use it the way they use "based" -- "that's so kek"

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 26 December 2022 14:36 (one year ago) link

If there's no surrounding context, I would read someone saying 'kek' as them being Very Online and aware of channer-type memes. Tbh I would probably give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they were being ironic.

However, given the vast amounts of context we have at our disposal, Elon Musk saying 'kek' is p obviously saying "hello alt-right I love you please love me back everyone else hates me and I am desperately trying to be with it by using a decades-old edgelord phrase".

emil.y, Monday, 26 December 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link

Yeah I was going to say even his racist memes are out of date (NB I don’t know the up to date racist memes)

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 26 December 2022 16:13 (one year ago) link

The SPLC has a pretty exhaustive (tho, granted, 5 years old) breakdown of kek: https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/05/08/what-kek-explaining-alt-right-deity-behind-their-meme-magic

It's pretty alt-righty and I think emily's otm in Musk's intent.

Obviously this is part of a much bigger conversation but it’s a big problem that anyone who gets ostracized from other online communities for being too bigoted can always find a place amongst the alt right. Like I don’t think these are the communities people are seeking out but they get driven there because everyone else is telling them to shut the fuck up

frogbs, Monday, 26 December 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link

They should go to church or something instead

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 26 December 2022 16:23 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fk8pqCKXEAkGh9Z?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 01:42 (one year ago) link

Did Medvedev get assigned the Twitter Files Part 345?

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 01:56 (one year ago) link

Actual billionaire fantasizing about being a billionaire with a bat suit.

Some nights … pic.twitter.com/BLAUsJr4wb

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 27, 2022

What else has he got to do?

A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 05:06 (one year ago) link

TFW someone reminds you that the markets reopen tomorrow. pic.twitter.com/4ZngsJg99m

— Mike Gee (@mestizoqueso) December 27, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 05:18 (one year ago) link

Below $120 and heading for $110 rapidly, is it?

bit high, bitch (gyac), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link

when is the margin call

sleeve, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link

ill do it now

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link

btw do we know that he has margin loans

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link

margin loans were not part of the twitter financing

not sure if he has a personal margin loan

https://www.forbes.com/sites/abrambrown/2022/05/25/elon-musk-margin-loan-twitter-equity-deal-takeover-bid-buyout/

, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link

could be loans for his other companies where tesla stock was put up as collateral i guess

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

Margin loans weren't part of the financing but there was discussion just the other week of converting some of the debt to margin loans tied to Tesla stock. I'm guessing that's a more difficult prospect at the moment ...

.@Mining_Atoms Brave new world... pic.twitter.com/BZX7TGsZFw

— Chuck Petras (@Chuck_Petras) December 26, 2022

Elon is trying to distract you from the major problems with @Tesla cars. pic.twitter.com/HNmenqIhxd

— andrea heart 🇺🇸🏴‍☠️🌵☀️ (@andreaheart19) December 26, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link

someone needs to go on norwegian internet and see how theyre doing being the top tesla country and a cold place

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

https://www.tocn.no/travelling-in-norway-during-winter/

Charging in wintertime
In order for optimal charging, the battery needs to have a good temperature, approximately 30’C.

If you are at a supercharger, are alone on the A-B pair, low charging speed is most likely due to low temperature on the battery(or high SOC). One hour of driving when it is 0’C outside, can still give you a battery temperature of only 17’C. Optimal battery temperature is said to be 30’C

If you plan to charge at your destination on AC on low amp, plug the car in as soon as possible while the battery is still warm after your days driving.
If you start charging the car while the battery is cold, you will at first see no progress at all on charging, as all the energy will be put into heating up the battery first. If it is cold enough, it can take several hours before charging starts.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link

hmm doesnt seem good

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

eh teslas are pretty much the best in cold weather fwiw https://www.axios.com/2022/03/04/the-cold-hard-truth-about-electric-vehicles-in-winter

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

that doesnt seem to address the wont charge at all issue

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

since so much of norway/scandy is coastal it's not really cold cold lows on average. mid 20sF. because 0C lol. i have now looked at average lows for oslo trondheim stockholm and helsinki for dec - feb. lillehammer inland does get avg mid teens F. send me help basically

normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link

also stats are for 20-30f barely below freezing please refrain from posting such garbage articles in the future! xp

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

the CEO of feels pic.twitter.com/WFh3dbQxZS

— derek (@derek8185338254) December 27, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

Below $120 and heading for $110 rapidly, is it?


Lmao closed at $109

bit high, bitch (gyac), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

remember that Elon-as-Thanos meme with Tesla's stock price that was being passed around the week after he bought Twitter? it's down another 50% since then lmao

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 21:07 (one year ago) link

Tesla stock price is too high imo

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 1, 2020

, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

It was at $46.75 when he tweeted that. I guess with some effort he can get it back down under that.

46.75 and it's split at least once since then too

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link

$46.75 is the split adjusted price

, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link

And you have tiny testicles!

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 28, 2022

, Wednesday, 28 December 2022 13:05 (one year ago) link

I don't know if I've seen this posted here before - most of it is just "working with Elon is 50% managing Elon", but the final anecdote is too good to miss

https://www.tumblr.com/numberonecatwinner/701567544684855296/elon-wyd

This post is long so I’ll leave you with my favorite Elon story. One day at work, I got an all hands email telling me that it was Elon’s birthday and there was going to be a mandatory surprise party for him in the cafeteria. Presumably Elon also got this email, but whatever. We all marched down into the cafeteria, dimmed the lights, and waited. Elon was led out by his secretary (who he hadn’t fired yet) and made a big show of being fake surprised and touched that we were there. Then they wheeled out the cake.

OK, so, I want you to imagine the biggest penis cake you’ve ever seen. Like the king of novelty sex cakes. Only it’s frosted white, and the balls have been frosted to look like fire and smoke. This was Elon’s birthday “rocket” cake.

For as long as I live, I will never forget the look on everyone’s face — in that dark room of mostly-male engineers — when he made a wish and cut into the tip.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 28 December 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link

For the uninitiated, Musk makes this ask at the end of every quarter to boost sales and make up for the general chaos that is Tesla. https://t.co/LELIdCZP33

— Linette Lopez (@lopezlinette) December 29, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 29 December 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

Based on the agreement Elon Musk signed to help fund his Twitter purchase, he has experienced his first margin call because of Tesla's stock-price declines. https://t.co/TUjt6sQ7GH

— Barron's (@barronsonline) December 29, 2022

plax (ico), Thursday, 29 December 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link

Sorry, can’t breathe pic.twitter.com/uivzA1ni68

— jingle 𝗟𝗜𝗡𝗔🎄 (@agirlcalledlina) December 29, 2022

plax (ico), Thursday, 29 December 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link

i know this is a boring opinion but i just cant bear him

plax (ico), Thursday, 29 December 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link

ugh omg go home nobody wants to play with you

plax (ico), Thursday, 29 December 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link

69D Chess

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 December 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

NiceD

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 29 December 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

to be clear, there is not. he just did not take out a tesla margin loan to buy twitter - thought about it, did not do it. (that said, he had previously pledged shares to secure personal indebtedness, who knows what's up with that.)

— Matt Levine (@matt_levine) December 29, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 29 December 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

lol yeah i kind of knew that i still wanted to post it though the fake news of our desires

plax (ico), Thursday, 29 December 2022 20:08 (one year ago) link

maybe we can do a citizens margin call

lag∞n, Thursday, 29 December 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link

look this is America, people like Elon will never cease to be indefensibly rich. if Trump taught us one thing it's that with the right combination of luck and rich parents you can be in a spot where you cannot fail no matter how much you fuck up. you can even steal national security secrets and plot to overthrow the government and nothing will happen. the only time in your life you could ever possibly face a consequence is by defrauding someone even richer than you. that said none of this really matters because Elon is so clearly a miserable sod who so desperately wants to be funny and well-liked but he just doesn't have the ability to. decades of being spoiled and rich has left him utterly unable to form a single original thought and it drives him crazy. I mean this dude could be doing literally anything he wants to and instead he's just namesearching himself on Twitter and replying "So true!" to guys who couldn't even hack it in Trump's White House. he's the most cringe human being that's ever existed.

frogbs, Thursday, 29 December 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link

Pretty solid Musking™️ from Tesla here. Choking on inventory, slash the price $7,500, collect cash from buyers (juice the Dec 31 cash balance), then delay delivery, revoke the cash and SC mile incentives (might as well get the margins back up while we’re at it) and send a bill. pic.twitter.com/po5uONIXzI

— Keubiko (@Keubiko) December 30, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 1 January 2023 02:00 (one year ago) link

lol owned

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 January 2023 06:44 (one year ago) link

The margin loan issue is interesting. If he did, he’d might, surprisingly, be in a better spot since there’d be some finality. The worst thing he can do is let Twitter slowly drain Tesla.

Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 1 January 2023 15:01 (one year ago) link

I’ve been asking everyone I know who might know something whether Musk has been shopping Twitter. Nobody has heard anything. That’s so insane to me. I’m positive there’s a deal somewhere. Most people think the lack of any discussion is because of the FTC (and the European regulatory body whose name I forgot) and/or a belief that we’re about to enter the worst recession of our lives (see that billionaire bomb shelter article from a few months back).

Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 1 January 2023 15:08 (one year ago) link

Or, the woke mind virus is not yet defeated.

Chris L, Sunday, 1 January 2023 15:30 (one year ago) link

kind of wondered when the $7500 was contingent on taking delivery by December 31st if they actually had any cars ready to deliver. seems like an insane bait and switch

mh, Sunday, 1 January 2023 18:44 (one year ago) link

there oughta be a law o wait

normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Sunday, 1 January 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link

They only announced the deal on 12/22 knowing snowstorms were imminent.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 1 January 2023 19:38 (one year ago) link

that also assumes that the cars exist and are shippable

can’t delay the shipment of a nonexistent car due to snow, but you can say you did

mh, Sunday, 1 January 2023 23:24 (one year ago) link

thats some real scumbag shit wow

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 January 2023 23:25 (one year ago) link

I’ve been asking everyone I know who might know something whether Musk has been shopping Twitter. Nobody has heard anything. That’s so insane to me. I’m positive there’s a deal somewhere.

― Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, January 1, 2023 10:08 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

how much do you think he could get for it tho a quarter of what he paid, an eighth

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 January 2023 23:26 (one year ago) link

tbh I assumed they had a handful of cars to clear out and knew they’d be oversold/underdelivered

mh, Sunday, 1 January 2023 23:27 (one year ago) link

Seems most likely

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 1 January 2023 23:38 (one year ago) link

We are living in The Purge, but for consumer crime.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 2 January 2023 00:21 (one year ago) link

this things got to have a longer wheel base than any actual vehicle

For the first time in 100 years, the competition is coming for legacy auto

Welcome to the year of the Cybertruckpic.twitter.com/tE7QBqPfDm

— Whole Mars Catalog (@WholeMarsBlog) January 1, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 2 January 2023 00:55 (one year ago) link

shouldve thought about four wheel steering if youre gonna make it like that

lag∞n, Monday, 2 January 2023 00:56 (one year ago) link

of course not close to being street legal as pictured, tiny bumpers weird sharp corners prob no crumple zones

lag∞n, Monday, 2 January 2023 00:58 (one year ago) link

always wanted something in stainless steel

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 2 January 2023 01:00 (one year ago) link

lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlbBJ1UXkAA7e15?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Monday, 2 January 2023 01:04 (one year ago) link


Ryan @Ryanadambarrett
Replying to @WholeMarsBlog
How soon will it be before we see you in it Omar?

Whole Mars Catalog @WholeMarsBlog
Replying to @Ryanadambarrett
2 weeks

steef (here for the 🛞🔥) @steefenstein
Replying to @WholeMarsBlog and @Ryanadambarrett
You're gonna save so much money on condoms

nickn, Monday, 2 January 2023 01:04 (one year ago) link

Catturd2 OTM

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 2 January 2023 01:20 (one year ago) link

the CyberTruck will have a special rolling coal mode that belches particulate matter for the lulz

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 2 January 2023 01:24 (one year ago) link

in true Tesla fashion it will come out the AC vents though

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 2 January 2023 01:24 (one year ago) link

In ten years we'll all have tanks and the road will be open warfare

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 January 2023 01:56 (one year ago) link

Wish they were allowed to build it without side mirrors pic.twitter.com/oNLLY8Nbiu

— Tesla and Doge (@TeslaAndDoge) January 1, 2023

They’re required by law, but designed to be easy to remove by owners

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 19, 2021

Fucking dum-dums.

peace, man, Monday, 2 January 2023 02:05 (one year ago) link

what the shit

lag∞n, Monday, 2 January 2023 02:07 (one year ago) link

...the tyranny of safety

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 January 2023 02:15 (one year ago) link

Huh, wonder if (CA) regulators can point to a screenshot of a tweet about evading regulations to keep them off the street?

In the event any of them do ever make it to the road it's going to be a moral imperative to fuck them up at every opportunity.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 2 January 2023 02:23 (one year ago) link

teslas have the side cameras don't they? so that's probably why all the tesla stans think they don't need side mirrors.

, Monday, 2 January 2023 02:41 (one year ago) link

This truck is never coming out.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 2 January 2023 02:47 (one year ago) link

yeah

lag∞n, Monday, 2 January 2023 02:48 (one year ago) link

So I guess the appeal of these is that fanboys think it looks like some Robocop military vehicle? Is that the deal, like a next-gen Hummer kind of thing? Because they're so objectively ugly and awkward that it's just hard for me to imagine anyone wanting one.

yeah i dont think theyd sell too many of them but theyre good for pr purposes

lag∞n, Monday, 2 January 2023 03:15 (one year ago) link

it's a nerd car for nerds imo, total niche thing, truck guys won't want anything to do with it (especially with the inevitable build quality problems)

Clay, Monday, 2 January 2023 03:19 (one year ago) link

Truck guys have already paid for every F150 lightning coming off the line for the next 18 months or whatever

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 2 January 2023 03:33 (one year ago) link

jeez that blind spot thread

it seemed slightly annoying the first time I was in a car that had the little light up "there's a car next to you, dude" indicator on the side mirrors but it makes sense after looking at what people think

obviously a Tesla with side cameras would just say "it's cool it's just a child, merge on"

mh, Monday, 2 January 2023 03:56 (one year ago) link

My car has sensors that beep if I signal or start to pull into a lane that someone's in. I still check my blind spots, but it's a handy failsafe.

Has anyone ever heard of a Tesla window spontaneously cracking on its own? For no reason? I’m sitting in car and this just happened… pic.twitter.com/vRA8hb31En

— Neill Blomkamp (@NeillBlomkamp) January 1, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 2 January 2023 18:13 (one year ago) link

that's normal

mh, Monday, 2 January 2023 18:13 (one year ago) link

easy over air fix

lag∞n, Monday, 2 January 2023 18:13 (one year ago) link

easy, just remove the windows. they're required by state law but are easy to remove

Karl Malone, Monday, 2 January 2023 18:15 (one year ago) link

you must have hit the 'artwork' button, where the window cracks in interesting, creative patterns.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 January 2023 18:17 (one year ago) link

$TSLA 4Q delivs 405.3K vs my expectation of 420.0K and Bloomberg consensus of 420.8K (IR-compiled consensus 418.0K). 4Q production was 439.7K vs my expectation of 436.4K and WS consensus of 438.8K. FY’22 deliveries were +40.3%. pic.twitter.com/YSxv4jQbh3

— Gary Black (@garyblack00) January 2, 2023

not clear if this is already priced in or not, but seems bad

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 January 2023 18:49 (one year ago) link

tbf when it comes to tesla nothing is priced in its lost 3/4 of its value and is still worth more than toyota

lag∞n, Monday, 2 January 2023 18:51 (one year ago) link

these cars rule. they gained just enough sentience to try to kill themselveshttps://t.co/69svr6FYo9

— i bless the rains down in castamere (@Chinchillazllla) January 2, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 2 January 2023 19:12 (one year ago) link

I love that the people who posted that video were smart and turned comments off.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 2 January 2023 19:14 (one year ago) link

didn't realize that was district 9 neill blomkamp upthread

, Monday, 2 January 2023 20:08 (one year ago) link

not clear if this is already priced in or not, but seems bad

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, January 2, 2023 1:49 PM (one hour ago)bookmarkflaglink

tbf when it comes to tesla nothing is priced in its lost 3/4 of its value and is still worth more than toyota

― lag∞n, Monday, January 2, 2023 1:51 PM (one hour ago)

the way tech stocks are generally valued is based on the potential for future growth, when the economy is in a ZIRP environment tech stocks get out of control because the discount rate for future cash flows is essentially 0% so if your growth trajectory puts you at 10x your revenue in 5 years, that 10x revenue gets priced in today with no discount essentially. you take that and add in the fact that $TSLA was the first meme stock and that was the jet fuel for the stock price going to the moon during the pandemic.

the reason tesla has a larger market cap than toyota despite selling way fewer cars / being a way smaller company is because toyota is a very mature company and they're not growing their revenue at the crazy rate that tesla was (7% year over year vs. 40% for tesla). that, and also being a meme stock.

elon is not... wrong when he says that the fed raising rates is responsible for $TSLA's decline, but it's only one factor and doesn't account for the fact that $TSLA has way underperformed the nasdaq in general and other tech stocks. its growth is slowing, the market for EV is maturing and getting a lot more crowded/competitive, it's not unreasonable to think that $TSLA has crested and the good times are over. it's still got a massive growth % but that % is probably going to get smaller over time, not bigger. i suspect that this Q4 is already being priced in if an analyst on twitter has already published their numbers, but won't know until the official Q4 numbers are released.

, Monday, 2 January 2023 20:22 (one year ago) link

telsa was priced for future growth only if you thought they were going to be mining gold on mars

lag∞n, Monday, 2 January 2023 20:25 (one year ago) link

yeah fair it's not just future growth, i didn't feel like getting into it but probably the biggest reason the stock gained so much was due to the fact that it was the most heavily speculated on stock in the S&P 500 during the pandemic via the options market and the rise of retail options trading in general, which led to all sorts of funky behavior. here's a good FT article that goes into some of that: https://archive.ph/twZTK

i think a lot of that air has been let out of the balloon though.

even pre-pandemic and pre-meteoric rise it had a market cap bigger than a lot of automakers at the time e.g. Ford, that's totally due mostly to future growth/ZIRP stock pricing and was the reason it had a bullseye on its back even then for the $TSLAQ people.

, Monday, 2 January 2023 20:42 (one year ago) link

obvs theres tons of complicated finalization around it and people hopping on for the ride but i think what happened with teslas stock price qualifies as a genuine mania, theres a bunch investors out there who just believed in elon so fucken much, lol

lag∞n, Monday, 2 January 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link

obvs parallels with crypto except that the story being told about tesla made even less sense

lag∞n, Monday, 2 January 2023 20:58 (one year ago) link

andy hory still has a huge crush on musk, shd see if they want to buy twitter

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 15:26 (one year ago) link

im sure ive complained about this before but the way the business press reports valuations is very silly, those investors almost always have first out provisions in their deals meaning if i bought ten percent of a company for a dollar it would be reported that i valued the company at ten dollars, except that later if the company sold for a dollar i would get... one dollar, that sounds to me more like i valued the company at one dollar, and its also just nonsensical to pretend a company has a value based on relatively tiny private investments no one even knows the details of

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 15:32 (one year ago) link

btw a bunch of musks reported net worth is based on said valuations

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 15:33 (one year ago) link

yah it kind of makes sense when someone's net worth is reported based on stock holdings when it's an institutional, long-running stock. there are rare exceptions when something tanks the market, but if you're the founder or major stockholder of some too big to fail corp that's 80% owned by institutional investors, then counting the stock as part of your net worth makes sense

tesla's like 40% individual investors and 15% tesla employees/the board, with the rest split between venture capital and institutional investors -- and the institutional ones have tesla slotted into the volatile gambling bundles, not the long-term stability ones

just total bs

mh, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link

and the space x part of his fortune is even more illusory

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 16:04 (one year ago) link

first google result says elon owns about half of spacex so thats ~$70b right there, can he actually get that money no of course not

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 16:06 (one year ago) link

Down 12% today

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 16:26 (one year ago) link

enjoying the plummeting T$LA stock price as ever^^^ but also vaguely worrying it ends in a plummeting spacex moon-podule full of the first however many* ppl to die in actual real outer space

*ie all of them :(

mark s, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 16:28 (one year ago) link

space x doing manned flights is prob just more musk pr lying, tho i havent actually looked into it, seems like in reality theyre a rocket company

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 16:38 (one year ago) link

im sure ive complained about this before but the way the business press reports valuations is very silly, those investors almost always have first out provisions in their deals meaning if i bought ten percent of a company for a dollar it would be reported that i valued the company at ten dollars, except that later if the company sold for a dollar i would get... one dollar, that sounds to me more like i valued the company at one dollar, and its also just nonsensical to pretend a company has a value based on relatively tiny private investments no one even knows the details of

― lag∞n, Tuesday, January 3, 2023 10:32 AM (one hour ago)

yeah valuations are silly, but in the private rounds they are also very mathematically factual, as you point out, it's just price paid per share of the company multiplied by total shares outstanding. by first-out provision, i think you mean the liquidation preference. in your example, you'd only get a $1 back if you were the only investor and at the top of the capital stack, if you had co-investors in the same round and the company sold for a $1 you'd be sharing that dollar with those other investors. the term you want is paid-in capital, which I guess is a good proxy if you're a VC with preferred shares. the most accurate accounting way of describing a company's value is shareholder's equity, which is just assets minus liabilities of the company.

the private round valuations are silly, yeah, but by the time a VC funded company goes public they're usually confident that the public IPO price will be well above the last private round. that generally holds true except when it doesn't, i.e. last year when tech stocks cratered and a ton of tech companies started trading below their IPO price and close to or even below their last private funding rounds. but if you were a series A or even series D investor or w/e in google, amazon, etc. those private round valuations weren't silly and you made a ton of money, more than enough to cover your investments in the 100 other start-ups that didn't make it, where you were partially protected by the liquidation pref anyway. VC investing, good business to be in if you can swing it, the incentives are all wrong but who's gonna fix it?

, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 16:47 (one year ago) link

i will fix it just gimmie a min

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link

yah it kind of makes sense when someone's net worth is reported based on stock holdings when it's an institutional, long-running stock. there are rare exceptions when something tanks the market, but if you're the founder or major stockholder of some too big to fail corp that's 80% owned by institutional investors, then counting the stock as part of your net worth makes sense

tesla's like 40% individual investors and 15% tesla employees/the board, with the rest split between venture capital and institutional investors -- and the institutional ones have tesla slotted into the volatile gambling bundles, not the long-term stability ones

just total bs

― mh, Tuesday, January 3, 2023 11:00 AM (forty-seven minutes ago)

net worth never makes sense no matter how blue-chip the underlying stock is for the simple reason that if anybody tried to unload that much stock at once, the price would tank, simply supply/demand microecon 101. but it's a convenient proxy and leads to eye-popping numbers so it's what get used.

tesla's 40% institutional isn't that low tbh, a lot of blue-chips are in the 50% or so range, and blue-chips don't have a ceo that holds 15-25% at any given time due to an outsized (and potentially illegal) comp plan. some institutional investors may hold tesla in "volatile gambling bundles" but keep in mind ever since tesla was added to the S&P 500 a few years ago a ton of index funds were forced to buy tesla, which added a ton of jet fuel to the options bonfire i linked to previously itt. index funds are not volatility traders.

, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link

re my example it was obvs simplified but its the same diff regardless of how many investors are involved, obvs u need to adjust the percentages based on how much of the stock has that preference

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 16:54 (one year ago) link

and obvs the people who get screwed in the deal are generally the ones who did the actual work ie the employees who are being compensated with stock

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 16:56 (one year ago) link

Right, you want to be like employee number three or join post IPO. anything in the middle is for chumps.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link

like steve aoki is in the middle of the #dearmoon project

mark s, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link

re my example it was obvs simplified but its the same diff regardless of how many investors are involved, obvs u need to adjust the percentages based on how much of the stock has that preference

― lag∞n, Tuesday, January 3, 2023 11:54 AM (twenty-six minutes ago)

so if you and 4 other investors invested $1 total for 10% of the company (each of you paying $0.20 each) and the company later sold for $1, you'd get your money back. this goes into the rabbit hole of what actually happens to start-ups that don't go public. one common scenario is for the start-up to get bought. usually when this happens it's at a premium to the last private valuation, because of the control premium i.e. the privilege to control the company, i.e. why elon's offer of $44B was like 50% higher than the market cap of twitter at the time. so in that situation you get paid out, make some money, and the employees get paid out too.

another common scenario is for the start-up to go bankrupt, in which case your liquidation pref doesn't protect you and you get wiped out in bankruptcy court. that's part of the VC game too.

right now the scenario a lot of tech companies are facing is their public company peers are trading way down so their private valuations are being adjusted way down, see all the stories about instacart right now. it definitely kind of sucks for the employees but only if they actually exercised their options, and you don't exercise your options unless you have to because you left the company and they're expiring. if they still work there and just hold options, they didn't actually spend any money on stock, so their downside is limited. if you joined a start-up and agreed to be paid only in stock options, well i dunno what to tell you other than you maybe come from a rich family?

i'm also not sure how sorry i'd feel for them regardless, if you join a start-up you probably did so because you heard the story of david choe and his $200 million for painting facebook's offices00 million for painting facebook's offices, or of snapchat or airbnb rank-and-file employees becoming millionaires when those companies went public and you're chasing that dream, you always had the option of joining a safe public company where your stock comp is actually paid out in RSUs that have value vs. stock options that are essentially a gamble. and you still got paid 6 figures in cash a year for all those years most likely anyway!

all of the above is kind of funny because when you put it like that (generational wealth opportunities are only open to the rich who have disposable capital to invest, basically) you can see why crypto took off in such a big way. america, the country of temporarily embarrassed millionaires!

, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 17:42 (one year ago) link

Private tech valuations

1. Fuck right off with that SpaceX BS. Ain’t no WAY

2. Stripe employees should mutiny for missing the greatest tech IPO window of all time pic.twitter.com/GvDiVQlr7l

— Bucco Capital (@buccocapital) December 30, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 17:48 (one year ago) link

or, another way to put it - if you're a rank and file employee in silicon valley, you only get to gamble on one company at a time (via working for them), so you better choose right.

if you are a VC, you get to gamble on a thousand companies, and your biggest problem is trying to get your fingers into as many pies as possible, because of the skewed upside/downside risk-reward profiles (being a series A investor in uber will pay many, many times over for being a series A investor in 1000 other failed start-ups that went bankrupt). because of this, the competition to get in the hottest start-ups will be intense, and it will be a race to the bottom and VCs will fall over themselves and throw caution to the wind, see all the stories about how the FTX investors did basically no diligence. because, while the music is playing, you have to dance!

, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 17:52 (one year ago) link

jason calacanis is a grifter, but his book about angel investing was extremely interesting to me as someone who knows nothing about how early stage vc works. seems to be become the standard text for senior engineers who made fuck you money at uber or wherever and are so bored they're doing angel vc now.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 17:54 (one year ago) link

that whole generation are a bunch of right place, right time guys, elon included.

Calacanis co-founded the blog network Weblogs, Inc.[3] with Brian Alvey on September 24, 2003, and the startup was supported by an angel investment from Mark Cuban.

i mean, lmao

, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 17:58 (one year ago) link

there were a bunch of his blog peers (Anil Dash, several ex-Six Apart/blogger/flickr/etc) types dunking on Calacanis publicly on twitter late last year calling him an insufferable dweeb

you've got to be pretty terrible for people to pop up and do that

mh, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 18:02 (one year ago) link

There are so many desperate, sweaty untalented dudes in nominal positions of power in tech. Though I will say, in 20+ years, Jason Calacanis stands out as amongst the top in terms of sheer embarrassing foolishness, even separate from his funding of white supremacist shitheels. https://t.co/mTHyEjJ97q

— anildash (@anildash) September 30, 2022

Ha! Exactly. I still recall when he couldn’t tell me apart from Mena bc you know, female blog company founders are confusing!

— Meg Hourihan (@megnut) September 30, 2022

mh, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 18:03 (one year ago) link

all of the above is kind of funny because when you put it like that (generational wealth opportunities are only open to the rich who have disposable capital to invest, basically) you can see why crypto took off in such a big way. america, the country of temporarily embarrassed millionaires!

Not to mention the tax treatment on nearly all such investments will be long term capital gains and any losses will offset such gains the investors have elsewhere, while employees getting a W-2 alongside any such stock/interests/options get taxed at higher wage rates. Nice work if you can get it.

Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 18:11 (one year ago) link

yeah i think the biggest elephant in the room is the way the us government has juiced the stock market, which is a public policy choice that has gone back literally centuries, the NYSE can trace its roots back to 1792. treatment of long term capital gains definitely a big one, makes no sense that one of the biggest opportunities for "wealth creation" is taxed the least.

another prominent in my mind are 401ks and how they've displaced relatively safer fixed-income pension funds, the government basically seeing all that money locked up in pension funds (which aren't as equity-weighted as 401k plans) and deciding it's better to allocate that to the stock market; now there's a permanent fixed bid on the S&P 500 to the tune of $20k a year multiplied by all W-2 employees in america, with an employer match to boot.

, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link

Lmao heading rapidly for $100, down almost 15% today

bit high, bitch (gyac), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 18:26 (one year ago) link

the guy who originally proposed the idea of a 401k based on a possibility given financially legislation is one of those dudes who goes around explaining why his idea was misused now

mh, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link

financially? financial

mh, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link

the government basically seeing all that money locked up in pension funds (which aren't as equity-weighted as 401k plans) and deciding it's better to allocate that to the stock market

should be pointed out that "the government" cited in that sentence consisted of members of Congress, who most definitely were having cash shoveled in their direction by businesses that would benefit from a move away from pensions and toward 401Ks.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 18:31 (one year ago) link

OK, I'm going to get off of the Calacanis beat after this, but... jesus christ what a thin-skinned dork
https://himariapetrova.medium.com/why-does-jason-calacanis-hate-scott-galloway-3ada7784c9a3

mh, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:39 (one year ago) link

xp dan to get back to the original point about valuing startups via extrapolating from privileged investments is just basically that the investors are getting better deal than say the employees, thats why they want it, how much more is it worth idk, but its not nothing

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 21:17 (one year ago) link

yeah I agree with that, at the end of the day it's the classic battle between Labor vs. Capital

, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 21:35 (one year ago) link

musk of all people gets that. so much of his management style seems like class-based revenge rather than liberatian market-based capitalism tbh. which is why the lack of tech unions is so maddening.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link

i was too new to have any social capital to push for this myself, but the almost total lack of any serious conversation about unionization at twitter over the summer was baffling to me.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 21:37 (one year ago) link

theres the classic dynamic where affluent or even merely middle class people identify with the ruling class, unions are for people who work in factories, its so wrong headed, feel like someone just needs to organize a campaign around getting privates offices (or i guess now home offices) instead of open floor plans and tech workers might start to see the benefit of collective action

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 21:51 (one year ago) link

i know it's a running joke but twitter really was the "wokest" set of employees i've ever worked with. if not there, it's difficult to see it happening anywhere in tech. the 90th-99th income percentile really don't get it.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 21:58 (one year ago) link

yeah it would prob take a larger union wave to sweep them along, which could be happening tbf, but its got a ways to go

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 21:59 (one year ago) link

even at somewhere like twitter you've got a non-trivial number of libertarian, vocally anti-union cranks among non-management, which is surprisingly chilling for discussion, especially when it happens on slack rather than in break rooms.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 22:08 (one year ago) link

just to threaten to tell the irs about their crypto dealings and theyll shut up

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 22:13 (one year ago) link

but in all seriousness if one really wanted to do it theyd prob need a plan that involves marginalizing those people, im sure someone will attempt to organize a tech company at some point, i know there was some agitation at google a while ago but they were going with the wobbly wildcat model thats about a chunk of workers taking ad hoc action rather than actually forming a union, which prob reflects the fact that the demand just wasnt there

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 22:18 (one year ago) link

iirc etsy may have done it?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 22:19 (one year ago) link

oh its the sellers that are doing it thats interesting i hadnt heard about that https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/31/23330758/etsy-strike-boycott-indie-sellers-guild-union-fee-increase

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 22:20 (one year ago) link

i guess the other problem is that the social and professional boundary between management and ICs is especially porous in tech, which makes forming an org that excludes management trickier.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 22:21 (one year ago) link

kickstarter is probably the most famous (and maybe first?) tech company to have a union

DM me to learn more

, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 22:22 (one year ago) link

oh yeah i forgot about that thats cool salute to them

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 22:24 (one year ago) link

a little ironic because Kickstarter has said in the past that they intend to never go public, so the equity kind of exists in a limbo https://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/17/kickstarter-paid-a-dividend-even-though-it-never-intends-to-go-public.html

, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 22:32 (one year ago) link

ah yeah kickstarter was what i was thinking of, not etsy, i.e. the other brooklyn success

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 22:33 (one year ago) link

meanwhile the memestock elves on the trading floor after closing time:
https://i.imgur.com/UBlrQlm.png

mark s, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 23:04 (one year ago) link

160 what shenanigans is that

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 23:05 (one year ago) link

wtf

sleeve, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 23:10 (one year ago) link

what the shit

Jordan Peterson has a "Twitter suit" with a tie featuring Elon Musk heads pic.twitter.com/U7TXC7m6aD

— Jason Campbell (@JasonSCampbell) January 3, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 23:11 (one year ago) link

xp happens all the time A/H. volume is tiny. shows up particularly on google finance for some reason.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 23:11 (one year ago) link

i know it often jumps around in a fairly meaningless way, the image is p funny though

mark s, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 23:19 (one year ago) link

There's a thread on Peterson with a surprise guest:

there's a very painful period when you see guys start to pay attention to clothes and they start to dress worse than they did before they started paying attention to clothes pic.twitter.com/RWNGjiv6SB

— derek guy (@dieworkwear) December 18, 2022

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 23:43 (one year ago) link

good thread

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 23:59 (one year ago) link

damn wow makes u think

pic.twitter.com/dJvUeO2P5t

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) January 3, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 00:15 (one year ago) link

Ah, the guy who has all our personal information and never reads probably thinks those books describe Utopia.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 01:26 (one year ago) link

wow matt levine must be reading this thread, today's money stuff is all about the silliness of private company valuations and also some lol twitter tidbits https://archive.ph/5j4kj

, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 19:51 (one year ago) link

hi matt

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link

i didnt know there were preferences where you get back multiples of yr investment before anyone else gets anything, thats even worse! its much worse

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 19:57 (one year ago) link

https://enersection.io/twitter/

this is good because i forget that twitter had some cheap debt they issued pre-elon that is now very expensive debt lol

, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 19:59 (one year ago) link

well yeah - the bad thing is that VC investors have a lot of leverage in these kinds of situations, private companies are nearly always on a runway to bankruptcy, so the choice can be take this cash that has a 2x/3x liquidation pref attached to it or go bankrupt xp

, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 20:00 (one year ago) link

they should go bankrupt it would good since then there would be fewer apps

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 20:02 (one year ago) link

We’ve had enough of apps!

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 20:07 (one year ago) link

apps are out

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 20:07 (one year ago) link

Rare sympathy for landlords

The landlord said in the suit that it had informed Twitter in mid-December that the company would be in default on its rent if it failed to make payments for space on the building’s 30th floor within five business days.

Other parties, including a software provider and transportation company, have also sued Twitter in recent weeks to recoup overdue payments, the Wall Street Journal reported.

bit high, bitch (gyac), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link

"I mean free speech let me tell you that if somebody's got to pay the servers okay so those features gotta cost at least eight dollars oh because otherwise how do we pay the freaking server bill um you know there's like a billion and a half ish you know of oil and server-related costs um and you know we're trying to get that lower but it's a lot it's like not trivial um and a minimum you know like there's like somebody's got to pay the bills"


🧠🧠🧠🧠

bit high, bitch (gyac), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link

hot take: The only reason Tesla was so over valued as a stock is crypto-bro orgy of valuation

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 21:30 (one year ago) link

twice as much as the electric f150 and as much as a gas f250, almost certainly a lie, the infinite mass part also not true

The tesla website claims that the new truck can pull "near-infinite mass" hhjjkhjslsl this company is so unserious pic.twitter.com/bMLMgHSUdj

— Human Mel (@melhuman) January 4, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 21:48 (one year ago) link

the overvaluation of Tesla would have made some sense in like 2016 when all those charging stations were getting installed and there was talk of a $30k Model 3, not to mention Full Self Driving on the horizon. I can tell you insurance companies took that pretty seriously because in theory the Auto line could be unprofitable mighty quick. I guess it wasn't quite apparent back then how full of shit Elon Musk was. why it blew up after the pandemic when the cracks were starting to show kinda baffles me.

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 21:54 (one year ago) link

always funny how the fascists who cry fascism seem to think only three dystopian novels have ever been written

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 21:58 (one year ago) link

xp the trump trick of making an obviously false claim/error to encourage haters to amplify the announcement

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 21:59 (one year ago) link

Brave New World not far off the mark, but not in the way I am sure Elon thinks it is.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 22:08 (one year ago) link

"near infinite mass" surely video games bear some responsibility for this

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 22:16 (one year ago) link

brb just towing a black hole around in my tesla truck

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 22:29 (one year ago) link

mb by using mass instead of weight they were making a lil joke about pulling things in outer space, still not true of course once things get massive enough youd be subject to their gravity, also wheels wouldnt work out there since there no ground, there are also some other problems with this "joke" im going to suit elon

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 22:33 (one year ago) link

or maybe the joke is you can pull anything but that doesnt mean it will move

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 22:33 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26CtnvXKY3w

, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 22:33 (one year ago) link

i think it's one of those things where like, yeah it could tow the space shuttle at walking speed for a few minutes. but any truck can do that

, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 22:34 (one year ago) link

really, we should be bemoaning the fact that the cybertruck can't outpull this very strong human

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xGIjlK1nSs

, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 22:35 (one year ago) link

i think it's one of those things where like, yeah it could tow the space shuttle at walking speed for a few minutes. but any truck can do that

― 龜, Wednesday, January 4, 2023 5:34 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah im sure when normal companies talk about towing capacity they mean it in a normal way, who knows wtf tesla is talking about

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 22:42 (one year ago) link

apparently towing with an ev drains the battery like crazy too

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 22:43 (one year ago) link

energy spent is energy spent!

this is good because i forget that twitter had some cheap debt they issued pre-elon that is now very expensive debt lol

Expensive Debt was an underrated Fela Kuti album

mh, Thursday, 5 January 2023 02:43 (one year ago) link

Tesla Miss Road

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Thursday, 5 January 2023 09:27 (one year ago) link

Musk's ego has near infinite mass

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 5 January 2023 12:58 (one year ago) link

"near infinite mass" surely video games bear some responsibility for this

― ꙮ (map), Wednesday, January 4, 2023 4:16 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

The only way to understand Musk is as a video game messages board troll circa 2000

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 January 2023 13:17 (one year ago) link

his whole thing reminds me of how Michael Jackson "lost" his childhood, and so he spent his 40s trying to recreate it. in Elon's case I guess he never had the chance to be a cringey teenage shitposter so he's trying to live it now.

frogbs, Thursday, 5 January 2023 14:19 (one year ago) link

Ricardo is real!

A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 5 January 2023 14:40 (one year ago) link

more funny graphs from the poster's poster:

https://i.imgur.com/O5A8A9M.png

mark s, Thursday, 5 January 2023 15:44 (one year ago) link

Cybertruckesque

nashwan, Thursday, 5 January 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 January 2023 16:15 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk should

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) January 5, 2023

i think we all know how to vote here, folks

, Thursday, 5 January 2023 16:42 (one year ago) link

He should aim higher imo

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Thursday, 5 January 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link

its so funny this is the thing he wants to do, a man with all the resources to actually do politics is totally gassed up on the power of memes

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 January 2023 16:52 (one year ago) link

It's because he's a moronic nepo baby

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Thursday, 5 January 2023 17:01 (one year ago) link

these nepos effin everything up

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 January 2023 19:01 (one year ago) link

Boebert starts grandstanding, gets told "VOTE!", and then votes for "a consensus candidate"...Hern. Kevin Hern of Oklahoma.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 5 January 2023 19:08 (one year ago) link

another vote for Hern, just now.

wait, i thought Donalds was the consensus candidate

Karl Malone, Thursday, 5 January 2023 19:09 (one year ago) link

a couple hundred representatives are googling "who the fuck is kevin hern" right now

Karl Malone, Thursday, 5 January 2023 19:10 (one year ago) link

wrong thread Karl

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 5 January 2023 19:10 (one year ago) link

gentlemen you can't talk about incompetent morons in here this is the Elon Musk thread

frogbs, Thursday, 5 January 2023 19:11 (one year ago) link

smdh #onethread ofc

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 5 January 2023 19:12 (one year ago) link

#elonethread

more crankable (sic), Thursday, 5 January 2023 19:12 (one year ago) link

lol oops sorry!

Karl Malone, Thursday, 5 January 2023 19:13 (one year ago) link

Gaetz should nominate Musk next time.

if it goes long enough, there is a non-zero chance that elon musk does get nominated.

we need outside of the box solutions

Karl Malone, Thursday, 5 January 2023 19:16 (one year ago) link

complete the triumvirate, nominate Kanye

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 5 January 2023 19:24 (one year ago) link

Vox Populi, Vox Dei. pic.twitter.com/I14fKiIh0f

— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) January 5, 2023

normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Thursday, 5 January 2023 23:35 (one year ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 January 2023 23:36 (one year ago) link

$200/month for an AI that thinks a daycare parking lot has the same speed limit as the adjoining street pic.twitter.com/9tB3MFcViG

— Dan Nguyen (@dancow) January 6, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 6 January 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link

Per @josephmenn Elon Musk ordered Twitter to ban antifascist researcher Chad Loder https://t.co/tPBKAvWsbv As I reported, Loder's open-source investigations ID'd Capitol rioters but infuriated 2 far-right activists Musk admires, Andy Ngo and Chaya Raichik https://t.co/TagSTpsNkT https://t.co/7lDSJlq8c4 pic.twitter.com/tlGsiPCgKe

— Robert Mackey (@RobertMackey) January 5, 2023

Chris L, Friday, 6 January 2023 18:36 (one year ago) link

elon is broing down with some of the absolute shittiest people, and also hes one of them

lag∞n, Friday, 6 January 2023 18:54 (one year ago) link

feel like any self-proclaimed "centrist" who is also obsessed with being the smartest guy in the room goes down that path

frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2023 19:12 (one year ago) link

also holy shit at that Dan Nguyen tweet, how is this even legal

frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2023 19:12 (one year ago) link

so I totaled your car
you was using it wrong

paranormal bully romance (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 January 2023 19:17 (one year ago) link

Is the Whole Mars catalog guy employed by Elon?

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 6 January 2023 19:26 (one year ago) link

He has similar brainworms

paranormal bully romance (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 January 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link

I cannot even imagine the life of someone who stans a billionaire that hard without being paid or in a romantic relationship.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 6 January 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link

even Grimes has more dignity

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 6 January 2023 20:10 (one year ago) link

Lmao how had I not heard he got this incredibly cringe photo removed https://t.co/HQ0PCBX77a pic.twitter.com/onO6gKiNqh

— K. Thor Jensen 🐀 (@kthorjensen) January 6, 2023

, Saturday, 7 January 2023 04:03 (one year ago) link

narrator's voice: it was not popular with anyone

Rich guys who are into S&M should be an exception to the "don't kinkshame" rule.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 7 January 2023 09:16 (one year ago) link

The only way to understand Musk is as a video game messages board troll circa 2000

And in particular, he has become Lowtax. We’ll see if things end the same way of not

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 8 January 2023 00:59 (one year ago) link

Rich guys who are into S&M should be an exception to the "don't kinkshame" rule.

― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, January 7, 2023 9:16 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

can they really be into s&m if they've never experienced full consent in their lives though

ꙮ (map), Sunday, 8 January 2023 01:04 (one year ago) link

I cannot even imagine the life of someone who stans a billionaire that hard without being paid or in a romantic relationship

I think a lot of it comes from the immediately Great Recession crash era, where you had a combination of social and political-economic factors colliding:

-tech interests coming into to start gobbling up all the capital spending that real estate couldn’t reliably generate profits from.
- tech guys becoming savior-gurus to the level beyond the hype that guys like Bill Gates had in the 90s
-the Obama Admin openly embracing and incorporating tech guys has the cool smart saavy technocratic leaders who will lead civilization into the next era because mass politics sure as shit wasn’t going to be allowed to do that
-Robert Downey Jr’s Tony Stark being a bit hit and a useful fantasy of what a tech guy is and how this superhero was going to save us, and guys like Elon, Jobs, or Zuck paying a lot to promote that kind of branding for themselves
-the western(or at least American) conflation of tech-progress with social progress, since that’s how a lot the second half of the 20th Century/Cold War was both marketed and perceived

So yeah, you have a certain kind of person who swallowed every bit of the STEM hype of the last 15 years and existing in a culture where the personal advancement of tech billionaires is conceived as Progress(and/or America) Marching Forward. I don’t think it’s surprising that this kind of parasocial relationship would form. Our culture is great at generating those

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 8 January 2023 01:13 (one year ago) link

Relatedly, because every other institution and metric of modern life(or at least the perception of it) is getting worse, I think plenty of folks put all their hopes into one of those tech moguls innovating/disrupting/conjuring the genius solution to everything. Electoral politics has been deliberately drained of any ability to address the problem, so without those tech superhero figures to believe in, there’s be nothing but despair.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 8 January 2023 01:17 (one year ago) link

death/murder/suicide/dissolution of the labour movement seems to be lurking in the background here

your original display name is still visible (Left), Sunday, 8 January 2023 01:27 (one year ago) link

but it still seems to keep him up at night which is something to hold on to

your original display name is still visible (Left), Sunday, 8 January 2023 01:29 (one year ago) link

everyone love the rocketman who will save us from the environment, tho tbf a many of his online boosters are prob paid or at least financially aligned in some way

lag∞n, Sunday, 8 January 2023 01:32 (one year ago) link

I hope so

your original display name is still visible (Left), Sunday, 8 January 2023 01:38 (one year ago) link

vaguely recall someone trying to untangle it all at some point, pr firms def offer the service of people liking you online, and then the tesla investor community is extremely active too

lag∞n, Sunday, 8 January 2023 01:41 (one year ago) link

think tesla gives perks/access to big accounts too

lag∞n, Sunday, 8 January 2023 01:42 (one year ago) link

does that explain the absurdly credulous media coverage until a minute ago or is that its own problem

your original display name is still visible (Left), Sunday, 8 January 2023 01:43 (one year ago) link

i mean it cant hurt but i think that was mostly just good tradidtional pr work, pitching the business press with a story about how a business man is going to save the world by doing business is a winner every time, musk really shouldve stuck to that instead of doing whatever it is hes doing now

lag∞n, Sunday, 8 January 2023 01:47 (one year ago) link

death/murder/suicide/dissolution of the labour movement seems to be lurking in the background here

True, tho I think the Musk fanboy types aren’t exactly the types who would have been at those kind of jobs

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 8 January 2023 03:57 (one year ago) link

Also, as somebody expressed it better than me, Musk has switched his target audience up of the years, going from aiming at NPR liberals to more libertarian tech types to now transphobic Maga chuds

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 8 January 2023 03:59 (one year ago) link

I guess the thing with mega billionaires is that they really are a different form of life and I don't think any of us can really comprehend what that mindset is like. You wanna say "oooooh the money wouldn't change me" so you'd just be a more extravagant version of who you are now. You'd still want the same sort of people to like you. You wanna be the most popular kid at school AND own the school at the same time. And if you're a total asshole then Elon Musk IS that guy. So maybe they just identify with him and think "well he must be a good person then"

frogbs, Sunday, 8 January 2023 04:14 (one year ago) link

the thing with mega billionaires is that they really are a different form of life and I don't think any of us can really comprehend what that mindset is like.

Somewhere north of $10 million money stops being money and becomes power. A mega billionaire has enough power to warp the direction of entire societies. It's got to be a huge mindfuck.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 8 January 2023 04:22 (one year ago) link

yeah someone pointed it out on Twitter but spending your whole life getting to point at anything you want and then receiving that thing probably does really stunt your emotional growth, to say nothing of asking for and receiving full credit for extremely intricately engineered stuff you had nothing to do with outside of "let's add a fart button, ha ha"

frogbs, Sunday, 8 January 2023 04:28 (one year ago) link

Also, as somebody expressed it better than me, Musk has switched his target audience up of the years, going from aiming at NPR liberals to more libertarian tech types to now transphobic Maga chuds

― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish)

That last step may be death for Tesla. They still want their giant RAM/Ford/Chevy rides.

nickn, Sunday, 8 January 2023 06:10 (one year ago) link

Tho tbf, I never thought that demographic would ever link with Russia.

nickn, Sunday, 8 January 2023 06:12 (one year ago) link

Musk can win them over by engraving “I identify as an F-250 Dually” in the bumper.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 8 January 2023 06:17 (one year ago) link

xxpost There are something like 700 billionaires in the US alone, and most of us can only name a couple. those few must represent the most insatiable egoists.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 January 2023 06:19 (one year ago) link

Sadly, I suspect the only thing that will slow down climate change is some self-aggrandising billionaire firing tonnes of sulphur dioxide into the atmosphere from some bought country; this will then lead to some other disaster.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, 8 January 2023 08:46 (one year ago) link

did a lot of non-rich people hero worship scumbag industrialists to an embarrassing degree back in the 1800s and 1900s? can the success of musk and his ilk mostly be attributed to well-funded PR via contemporary mass/social media (in the context of broader trends in social conditions, ideology, technology)? or does it reflect something more basic about human psychology (under capitalism? or in general?)

your original display name is still visible (Left), Sunday, 8 January 2023 10:24 (one year ago) link

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peasant_mentality

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 8 January 2023 12:52 (one year ago) link

That doesn’t actually get at what we’re talking about, tho, particularly as the prime example given in that wiki is actually rather lovely and Romantic. It also doesn’t answer the question, really.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Sunday, 8 January 2023 13:03 (one year ago) link

From my knowledge of history, the phenomenon of people “stanning” or engaging in gross hero worship of extremely rich people only began in the 20th c and the rise of a modern celebrity culture. As far as inventors and industrialists getting this sort of acclaim and weirdo fealty, Edison and Ford are obvious precursors. That said, eventually, certain people became celebrities because they were rich, without any other reasons behind it— and that has now warped into situations like this one with Musk.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Sunday, 8 January 2023 13:10 (one year ago) link

hard to know what peasants actually thought about stuff but there must be feudal and early modern analogues to this phenomenon especially with those stans who are also his employees

your original display name is still visible (Left), Sunday, 8 January 2023 13:13 (one year ago) link

the charismatic protofascist strongmen of the 1800s feel like a precursor except they sometimes actually did stuff for their supporters

your original display name is still visible (Left), Sunday, 8 January 2023 13:18 (one year ago) link

of course he's neither charismatic nor strong but maybe being a weird awkward nerd promising sci fi shit is the new being a tough talking moustache guy covered in fake medals

your original display name is still visible (Left), Sunday, 8 January 2023 13:29 (one year ago) link

“That we have made a hero of Howard Hughes tells us something interesting about ourselves, something only dimly remembered, tells us that the secret point of money and power in America is neither the things that money can buy nor power for power’s sake (Americans are uneasy with their possessions, guilty about power, all of which is difficult for Europeans to perceive because they are themselves so truly materialistic, so versed in the uses of power), but absolute personal freedom, mobility, privacy. It is the instinct which drove America to the Pacific, all through the nineteenth century, the desire to be able to find a restaurant open in case you want a sandwich, to be a free agent, live by one’s own rules.”

, Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:20 (one year ago) link

it’s true that’s a poor wikipedia article

what i meant was the mentality that some people are just born to power and riches, and that’s fine, we have nothing, and that’s also fine, in fact it’s the only way it can be, it’s how the world is ordered and to argue for a better way is to in some sense go against the will of god and nature, so let us simply enjoy what pleasures we can in this life and recognise the beauty and greatness of our betters when they accomplish their public feats

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link

some people have for sure always venerated the rich and powerful, in rome emperors were both the richest and powerfulest guys and when they werent busy assassinating them many considered them to be demi gods

as to why musk got particularly famous, and his fame does well predate becoming "the richest person in the world" which carries its own fame, i think it was due to a well executed plan to become famous

lag∞n, Sunday, 8 January 2023 15:42 (one year ago) link

alien vs predater

mark s, Sunday, 8 January 2023 15:44 (one year ago) link

should add was brilliant marketing for tesla which prob wouldnt have survived or flourished without it, but then musk started believing his own hype which is a well known thing you shouldnt do

lag∞n, Sunday, 8 January 2023 15:47 (one year ago) link

Monotheism lends itself even more to veneration of the powerful than polytheism did, because the monotheistic god is all-powerful and infallible, where the Greco-Roman deities were fickle and sometimes even wrong. Kings and caliphs exploited this obviously via divine rights and all that, but in the post-monarchical parts of the Abrahamic world we've still allowed some sense of that to persist, that the wealthy and powerful must have divine favor, as evidenced by their wealth and power. If you believe in a hierarchical monotheistic deity, it's easy to assume the hierarchies established in the earthly realms reflect God's wishes. That this actually goes against some pretty explicit teachings of Christ per the gospels — which were anti-establishment and anti-wealth-and-power - is less of a problem than it seems like it should be, because obv most people don't really follow Jesus as a philosopher, just as a guarantor of their own ticket to heaven.

There’s also the bootstraps ideology that is pounded into peoples’ brains from the moment they take their first breaths in this country.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Sunday, 8 January 2023 18:34 (one year ago) link

Yep, which also has a strong Protestant flavor. Really, the Prosperity Gospel movement just kind of takes that twining of capital and theology to a logical end.

Anyway, Elon is now encouraging coups. Basically just turning Twitter into Parler.

And once again, Twitter let election conspiracy theories run rampant after Musk dismantled all of their trust and safety teams. Now Brazil's capitol is facing an insurrection. But unlike before, Musk has actively promoted and pushed these conspiracies. https://t.co/rKts84I4Rg pic.twitter.com/iwUIslAtb9

— Alejandra Caraballo (@Esqueer_) January 8, 2023

Anyway, Elon is now encouraging coups.

what an astonishing, new turn of events

https://i.imgur.com/lMIOHax.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/muvyX4Y.jpg

more crankable (sic), Monday, 9 January 2023 07:59 (one year ago) link

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says it asked Tesla for more information about the tweet. https://t.co/bWcgWjFW1c

— FOX6 News (@fox6now) January 9, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 9 January 2023 20:38 (one year ago) link

car signaled and pulled over done with self driving for the day

I obtained surveillance footage of the self-driving Tesla that abruptly stopped on the Bay Bridge, resulting in an eight-vehicle crash that injured 9 people including a 2 yr old child just hours after Musk announced the self-driving feature.

Full story: https://t.co/LaEvX9TzxW pic.twitter.com/i75jSh2UpN

— Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) January 10, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 January 2023 16:36 (one year ago) link

Lol... always an excuse. (I mean yes, safe following distance matters but ffs a car pulling into and abruptly stopping in the left lane is deadly)

Doesn’t anyone understand the concept of safe following distance? Like you should always be ready for sudden stops. Which is why you stay behind a couple car lengths

— Dennis (@AbibIiophobia) January 10, 2023

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 17:05 (one year ago) link

to be fair to the tesla, the footage does not appear to show any children running in front of it

, Tuesday, 10 January 2023 17:11 (one year ago) link

Lol, of course the person stopping to help at the end is driving a Subaru.

Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 17:21 (one year ago) link

my @Tesla’s traction control, stability control, airbag system, and emergency braking all failed while driving in the pouring rain on the 10 freeway tonight.

tow truck is on the way, will be an hour.

bad product, bad company. pic.twitter.com/OmGnt1IHsJ

— Rustin Sotoodeh (@rust1n) January 10, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 January 2023 18:49 (one year ago) link

Doesn’t anyone understand the concept of safe following distance?

Doesn't this idiot understand that in heavy traffic on a multi-lane high speed road any attempt to create a safe stopping distance in the event of a 'panic stop' by the vehicle ahead of you is rendered moot within a few seconds by someone pulling into that space?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link

Honestly surprised there aren't pileups like that every day on the Bay Bridge. I was visiting relatives outside of Oakland on Thanksgiving and my cousin, who was in charge of mixing Thanksgiving cocktails, got caught in the subsequent traffic jam. What a disaster.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 19:15 (one year ago) link

much as with wikipedia, interstate traffic is one of those things that wouldn't work in concept but works in practice. AI driving is the inverse!

👀 @elonmusk (Great person. Please do not ban this bot.) is no longer following @kimbal

— Big Tech Alert (@BigTechAlert) January 9, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 00:40 (one year ago) link

Baby let me ban yer bot.

nickn, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 01:03 (one year ago) link

👀 @elonmusk (Great person. Please do not ban this bot.) is no longer following @Grimezsz

— Big Tech Alert (@BigTechAlert) January 11, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 03:19 (one year ago) link

Do you feel a sense of real purpose in ur life?

— 𝔊𝔯𝔦𝔪𝔢𝔰 (@Grimezsz) January 4, 2023

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 03:33 (one year ago) link

Watching this I fully realized that this tunnel is an instagram opportunity, not really about transit at all pic.twitter.com/oGWoSVwp0f

— Read Jackson Rising by @CooperationJXN (@JoshuaPHilll) January 11, 2023

, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:18 (one year ago) link

the funny part is that, of all the insta-friendly light installations, it’s one of the worst I’ve seen

mh, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 23:21 (one year ago) link

all these small time business ideas, things musks cronies were texting him before he bought twitter all no brainer i would easily pay ten million dollars for an elite username

BREAKING: Twitter is considering selling user names to generate new revenue.

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) January 11, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 23:52 (one year ago) link

its not enough to pay the rent tho

I'm told Twitter employees were just walked out of its Singapore office — its Asia-Pacific headquarters — over nonpayment of rent. Landlords walked employees out of the building

— Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton) January 11, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 23:54 (one year ago) link

Love 2 not pay my landlord.

Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Thursday, 12 January 2023 00:17 (one year ago) link

if i were the richest guy i'd just buy all the buildings duh

Clay, Thursday, 12 January 2023 00:18 (one year ago) link

No it’s better to talk about having floating buildings in 10 years

Motion to adjourn to enjoy a footling (President Keyes), Thursday, 12 January 2023 01:16 (one year ago) link

This is actually a classic private equity trick. Extend the payment terms as much as possible to get your counterparts to fund your working capital. Makes a huge difference on cash flow metrics. Stop when it starts impacting your business.

— 8teAPi - e/acc (@8teAPi) January 11, 2023

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 January 2023 01:45 (one year ago) link

Not sure Musk actually knows what the "business" part of Twitter is, tho.

ah the classic business move of not paying your bills yes i think i may have heard of that one before

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2023 02:22 (one year ago) link

76D chesskers

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 January 2023 02:25 (one year ago) link

that made me lol, Neando, thx

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 12 January 2023 02:34 (one year ago) link

I dunno if "don't pay for stuff because what are they going to do about it?" qualifies a trick, really.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 12 January 2023 02:40 (one year ago) link

Stop when it starts impacting your business.

Oops.

Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Thursday, 12 January 2023 12:28 (one year ago) link

isn’t that a pump-and-dump private equity trick that was done to a bunch of retail chains that were then saddled with debt and thrown into bankruptcy by bain capital, etc.

mh, Thursday, 12 January 2023 14:02 (one year ago) link

thank you for bringing free speech back

If you try searching Twitter for @kenklippenstein—the major investigative journalist who recently posted footage of a Tesla crash—you can’t find him anymore. This is all you get. pic.twitter.com/7UYLmtHRTD

— Eve Fairbanks (@evefairbanks) January 12, 2023

frogbs, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:22 (one year ago) link

that is odd, but fwiw when i searched for him just now i immediately found his twitter profile and all his posts

Karl Malone, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:28 (one year ago) link

do yo follow him tho

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link

but i see he also retweeted @evefairbanks' post, too, so i guess he agrees?

Karl Malone, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link

xp i do not follow (...@kenklippenstein on twitter)

Karl Malone, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link

i tried searching with my account where i follow him and he showed up then i tried with one of my bot accounts that does not and got the musk but no ken result but it did return some other nine follower ken klippenstein lol

https://i.imgur.com/xxUBdhb.png

https://i.imgur.com/RWMRZsk.png

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link

logged out incognito search returned all the ken klippensteins and no musk

https://i.imgur.com/4xm5zMU.png

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:38 (one year ago) link

seems like something weird is going on especially the fact that its returning musk too, cld just be twitter sucking but prob some meddling going on or more likely even is a combo of the two

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:41 (one year ago) link

Musk sucking?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:42 (one year ago) link

musking

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link

yeah right after I posted that I tried in a different browser where I wasn't logged in and I got the same thing where I saw Musk & no Ken. but now if I do it Ken shows up and no Musk. so it could be they reversed course after people started noticing, or maybe it's just a random search bug, which actually seems kinda likely given it took me several tries just to test this since half the time it just returns nothing at all

frogbs, Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:44 (one year ago) link

Klippenstein still shows up for me when I open Word '97 on my compaq presario. But he is gone in Microsoft 365.

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 12 January 2023 21:45 (one year ago) link

Twitter app has started defaulting to ‘for you,’ when it’s in the background and reopened. That was the death knell for Facebook and Instagram being even remotely usable, can’t wait for the chronological timeline to be hidden behind five menus.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 13 January 2023 08:47 (one year ago) link

Many 3rd party apps aren't working, Albatross for Android seems to be, at this point.

Look closely, that is all. (doo dah), Friday, 13 January 2023 12:24 (one year ago) link

can't wait to read that.

Elon musk is of course not funny, but the fact that his profile picture remains that stupid cosplay outfit is hilarious. reminds me of a girl I knew in high school who used to wear her NASA space camp jumpsuit to school.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 January 2023 13:53 (one year ago) link

that "for you" view is god awful. at least on Facebook this kinda made some sense but so much of Twitter is about live reactions and this nerfs all of that. I still like it when NBA games are going on and now I have to switch the view every time I use the app. not only that but the 'for you' view is showing me the same exact stuff now it did yesterday lol

frogbs, Friday, 13 January 2023 14:11 (one year ago) link

one of the biggest opponents of “right to repair” is Tesla, who infamously fleece customer service costs in a way that puts the medical industry to shame. Examples like hundreds of dollar charged for a piece of duct tape hidden under a fender well.https://t.co/eoDL4SuT5L

— Jimmy Trillstein (@JimmyTrillstein) January 13, 2023

lag∞n, Friday, 13 January 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link

UPDATE: it appears that the Search Suggestion Ban against @kenklippenstein has been removed, per https://t.co/ondv5QlBWy

Ken Klippenstein has been freed, great job everyone. pic.twitter.com/BwNqUWyYLJ

— steven monacelli (@stevanzetti) January 13, 2023

lag∞n, Friday, 13 January 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link

doug games out the crash in used tesla prices, not sure he really gets the formula right, the idea that tesla buyers are so uniquely affected by interest rate hikes is suspect, think hes relying on the data from his speciality auction site too much which prob isnt representative of the general used car market, used cars crashing in general and increased tesla production have to be factored in more, and musk bad pr is a bigger part of it than he thinks too imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT-9_As6qq4

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 January 2023 20:33 (one year ago) link

Note that I filmed this video on Monday, before Tesla's announcement this week that they're significantly cutting prices on all their new models -- a move that will only further serve to significantly reduce the value of used Teslas.

this is going to have a huge effect too. including credits that weren't previously available it's like $20k cut in some cases.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/14/23554886/tesla-price-cut-ev-market-deman-elon-musk

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 January 2023 21:29 (one year ago) link

thats a lot of ks

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 January 2023 21:37 (one year ago) link

lol wow

Angry Tesla customers in China have started storming $TSLA stores, demanding refundspic.twitter.com/CQALimsox7

— William LeGate (@williamlegate) January 9, 2023

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 January 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link

most "hmm" bit of the demuro video is the assertion that people who work in the loan industry are more likely to buy teslas lol

the tech industry correlation i can see, loan officers though???

, Sunday, 15 January 2023 22:14 (one year ago) link

hes seems to be saying he knows that cause of the people who sell teslas on his site but idk

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 January 2023 22:25 (one year ago) link

“In the firms thinking, the party's over as of this morning. There's gonna be turmoil in the Markets for the foreseeable future. And *they* believe it is better that this turmoil begin with us. As a result, the firm has decided to liquidate its Tesla inventory... today.” https://t.co/3clKLx00qx

— Bucco Capital (@buccocapital) January 15, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 16 January 2023 01:06 (one year ago) link

wow thats some big discounts

lag∞n, Monday, 16 January 2023 01:23 (one year ago) link

“There is a whole bunch of us pumping Tesla…”, says one of the biggest $TSLA shills. https://t.co/2IuwrxwbuP

— Scot (@ghost_scot) January 16, 2023

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 January 2023 16:36 (one year ago) link

genuinely believing in tesla

lag∞n, Monday, 16 January 2023 18:05 (one year ago) link

should work as a gift article: seems like Teslas crash a lot

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 12:54 (one year ago) link

love when peter singer wanders on-stage to explain why very bad things are actually very good

mark s, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 13:38 (one year ago) link

'crashes bring people together'

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 14:24 (one year ago) link

I’m genuinely impressed by the number of times he gets close to making a savvy management decision before inexplicably smashing into a semi-truck.

e.g., focus on video, concerns about infrastructure costs, spot checking code quality, etc. are solid ideas but his execution was so wildly dumb it makes me question whether they were genuine ideas about making Twitter better or simply gimmicks to improve his brand.

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 14:32 (one year ago) link

I’m genuinely impressed by the number of times he gets close to making a savvy management decision before inexplicably smashing into a semi-truck.

e.g., focus on video, concerns about infrastructure costs, spot checking code quality, etc. are solid ideas but his execution was so wildly dumb it makes me question whether they were genuine ideas about making Twitter better or simply gimmicks to improve his brand.

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 14:32 (one year ago) link

I was confused for a moment about which company you were commenting on, so here's my pitch:

Twitter focuses on lidar

mh, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 14:48 (one year ago) link

love when peter singer wanders on-stage to explain why very bad things are actually very good


Yeah, I was like, “oh so the guy who wants disabled people to be killed says Tesla is cool, not sure i buy it!”

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 15:11 (one year ago) link

xp tweets so good, it'll make your head spin

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 15:16 (one year ago) link

(then they put a laser in your mouth)

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 15:17 (one year ago) link

didn't know anything about Singer, looked him up, and was greeted with this doozy:

It may be all right, according to Singer, to kill infants. Because they are not "persons," they have no interest in staying alive, and it is only superstition that makes us think that killing them is intrinsically wrong.

Singer is quick to note that it is still wrong to kill most infants, for other reasons. The killing of an infant would, in most cases, make the parents unhappy.

The killing of an infant would, in most cases, make the parents unhappy.The killing of an infant would, in most cases, make the parents unhappy.The killing of an infant would, in most cases, make the parents unhappy.The killing of an infant would, in most cases, make the parents unhappy.The killing of an infant would, in most cases, make the parents unhappy.The killing of an infant would, in most cases, make the parents unhappy.The killing of an infant would, in most cases, make the parents unhappy.The killing of an infant would, in most cases, make the parents unhappy.The killing of an infant would, in most cases, make the parents unhappy.The killing of an infant would, in most cases, make the parents unhappy.The killing of an infant would, in most cases, make the parents unhappy.

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 15:25 (one year ago) link

Most, not all

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 15:41 (one year ago) link

I am very sad to have learned of this person's existence today.

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 15:50 (one year ago) link

what if, unironically, the child has bad vibes

mh, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 15:52 (one year ago) link

when peter singer turned up in the middle of the effective altruism / sam bankplan-fraud discussion i assumed it was a typo for PAUL singer (the hedge fund guy who "pioneered" effective altruism, whatever this means) -- but no! it's peter, with a finger in every fkn dark pie lol!

30 years ago he was best known as the animal rights guy, which was a way better bit imo

mark s, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 15:56 (one year ago) link

oh no, now I remember who he is

mh, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 15:57 (one year ago) link

my favourite peter singer anecdote is when he was on a panel in germany in i guess the 90s discussing something or other and there was a stage invasions by autonomes* and they grabbed his spectacles off his face and flung them into the audience

he wrote a big long piece i think in the new york review of books saying this was bad not good but i disagree bcz it was funny!

*best of all the gnomes

mark s, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 16:01 (one year ago) link

I’m genuinely impressed by the number of times he gets close to making a savvy management decision before inexplicably smashing into a semi-truck.

e.g., focus on video, concerns about infrastructure costs, spot checking code quality, etc. are solid ideas but his execution was so wildly dumb it makes me question whether they were genuine ideas about making Twitter better or simply gimmicks to improve his brand.

― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, January 17, 2023 9:32 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i guess this link belongs in the twitter thread, but it speaks to this point so i'll but it here https://www.theverge.com/23551060/elon-musk-twitter-takeover-layoffs-workplace-salute-emoji.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 17:59 (one year ago) link

'crashes bring people together'

― fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Tuesday, January 17, 2023 9:24 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://i.imgur.com/v9NBTOh.png

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 18:16 (one year ago) link

is that good

Tiny scoop: We learned today that Twitter’s revenue is down 40 percent year over year (& Musk’s first giant interest payment on the company is due at the end of the month): https://t.co/IH7lJiQ0Dw

— Zoë Schiffer (@ZoeSchiffer) January 18, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 02:40 (one year ago) link

btw that article is the saem one caek posted, def worth reading for true musk heads

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 02:41 (one year ago) link

lol

wow: that 2016 tesla self-driving demo that essentially kicked off the entire industry-wide spending spree...it was fake https://t.co/F5uXGvzfiU

— Max Chafkin (@chafkin) January 17, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 03:17 (one year ago) link

the information reporting that in addition to revenue being down 40%, the top 500 advertisers have left lol

on the left hand side of the verge article there's a little blue bar that tracks elon's net worth over the course of the twitter saga, it's good

, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 15:28 (one year ago) link

" A Tesla owner was recently seeking a state inspection sticker at one of VIP’s locations, Winkeler said, but the car displayed a light indicating a traction control problem. The service center couldn’t pass the vehicle’s inspection with the light on, but also couldn’t access the dashboard error code to diagnose the problem. The customer had to drive to Boston to get the car diagnosed. "

what a bother

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 16:15 (one year ago) link

the information reporting that in addition to revenue being down 40%, the top 500 advertisers have left lol

― 龜, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 10:28 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

thats fn crazy youd think itd be down by more than 40%

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 17:39 (one year ago) link

the expected revenue from the sell-off of the neon twitter sign and assorted work stations must be incredible

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 17:45 (one year ago) link

the interest payment is coming up https://www.ft.com/content/25f67d89-2940-43b9-9a42-bfc34d262631 (use archive.ph if you don't wanna register)

, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 17:45 (one year ago) link

oh its 500 top advertisers not the 500 top advertisers

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 17:48 (one year ago) link

Elon's just gonna sell the sink he brought into Twitter, some fanboy will pay 1 billion for it cos he touched it

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 17:48 (one year ago) link

it'd be really funny if 50% of the revenue was the weird dudes who pay to promote their own incoherent tweets

mh, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 17:48 (one year ago) link

someone should get steve cohen into the twitter memorabilia scene

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 17:49 (one year ago) link

Elon's just gonna sell the sink he brought into Twitter, some fanboy will pay 1 billion for it cos he touched it

2 billion if he jacks off into it.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 17:49 (one year ago) link

Fidelity, which owns a stake in the social media platform through a listed fund, has cut the value of its holding from $19.7mn in October to $8.6mn after Musk closed the deal.

lmao

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link

lol

Seeing a lot of crying from the people that insisted Elon “fixed” Twitter. pic.twitter.com/iBihVKn5rp

— pokey pup (@Whatapityonyou) January 18, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 19:04 (one year ago) link

they will never learn that most people don't care about their shitty opinions

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link

and people really dont care about their whining about engagement

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 20:05 (one year ago) link

Don't know how it hasn't gone more noticed over the years, but the guy in this video that Elon tweeted out to show the safety features of Tesla autopilot...? He died in a Tesla autopilot accident two months later.https://t.co/JUJriy3YOf

— extremely pleasant mail delivery guy (@dumbmailguy) January 18, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 20:06 (one year ago) link

his final words were "so thrilled...this will...help improve...self-driving...next patch"

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 20:10 (one year ago) link

Best…car…I…ever…had…

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 20:57 (one year ago) link

“He had said, ‘For something to catch Elon Musk’s eye, I can die and go to heaven now,’” said a neighbor, Krista Kitchen, choking up. “He was absolutely thrilled – and then a couple weeks later he died.”

https://t.co/1BWwPHIzR0

— extremely pleasant mail delivery guy (@dumbmailguy) January 18, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 20:58 (one year ago) link

Mind detergent and soul rot, from the top to the bottom.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 22:22 (one year ago) link

genuinely think some of these ppl should go to church they'd be better off

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 22:22 (one year ago) link

worth a shot

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 January 2023 00:34 (one year ago) link

lol why

NEW: https://t.co/9ameptuFXR

— Dana "Legacy Blue Checkmark" Hull 👩🏻‍💻 (@danahull) January 19, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 January 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link

haters will say its photoshop

- elon

, Thursday, 19 January 2023 20:25 (one year ago) link

interesting

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Thursday, 19 January 2023 22:30 (one year ago) link

knives comin out

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 19 January 2023 22:44 (one year ago) link

i'm pretty sure some undercredited production person directed the fuck out of the video while elon executive produced and called himself director

Karl Malone, Thursday, 19 January 2023 23:57 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fm8PZZgXgBAwIFs?format=jpg&name=large

lag∞n, Friday, 20 January 2023 22:03 (one year ago) link

This is the world we live in
And these are the stans we're given

gosh, I hope Elon saves Catturd

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 20 January 2023 22:28 (one year ago) link

'take the algorithms off'

mookieproof, Friday, 20 January 2023 22:30 (one year ago) link

this is probably why the desktop site has started defaulting to "for you" every time, gotta get that catturd engagement up

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 20 January 2023 22:35 (one year ago) link

Fortunately, catturd is not "for me." (Yet. I'm sure if he whines enough Elon will set it up so everyone is auto-following both himself and catturd.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 20 January 2023 22:37 (one year ago) link

Fortunately Catturd 1 is okay

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 20 January 2023 22:45 (one year ago) link

Catturd Prime

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 20 January 2023 22:46 (one year ago) link

not everyone saw Catturd's tweets, but everyone that did started a ban

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 20 January 2023 22:48 (one year ago) link

Very nice

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Saturday, 21 January 2023 01:16 (one year ago) link

I keep wanting to ironically buy catturd merch but I suspect that impulse will never result in anything

mh, Saturday, 21 January 2023 01:38 (one year ago) link

Why would you do that? May as well wear an ironic swastika.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 21 January 2023 02:15 (one year ago) link

the fact that this account is run by a 65 year old really comes through in phrases like "take the algorithms off" lol https://t.co/0drpUya5BP

— america's lounge singer (@KrangTNelson) January 20, 2023

it's so funny to post "engagements are almost down to nothing" on a post with 25,000 likes

— Ed Zitron (@edzitron) January 20, 2023

worth noting that catturd has gained over 600,000 followers since elon became ceo a few months ago (nearly double what they had before). he just loves whining

— america's lounge singer (@KrangTNelson) January 20, 2023

catturd2 knows that when elon replies to him he gets thousands more followers

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 January 2023 03:12 (one year ago) link

wait is that guy really 65 lmao

frogbs, Saturday, 21 January 2023 03:42 (one year ago) link

he’s not young!

he owns a registered business that owns property (maybe just his own home) that is “catturd llc” or something like that

just an insanely pathetic guy. I’m a cat owner and I have to admit branding yourself with all cat stuff is insanely beta

mh, Saturday, 21 January 2023 03:45 (one year ago) link

Chadturd2

George Santos' If I Could Only Remember My Name - C or D? (President Keyes), Saturday, 21 January 2023 04:00 (one year ago) link

Enjoying the idea of Elon browbeating the remaining employees at Twitter to boost Catturd’s engagement.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 21 January 2023 04:15 (one year ago) link

for sure

mh, Saturday, 21 January 2023 11:28 (one year ago) link

*Trying to make the biggest weirdos on this website think I’m cool*

Uh, the vaccine gave me bad diarrhea. pic.twitter.com/MxGcu5oeok

— Mike Beauvais (@MikeBeauvais) January 22, 2023

Insane levels of thirst

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 22 January 2023 01:21 (one year ago) link

reasonable point

you know this is a lie because we did not see nonstop tweets from him about it https://t.co/TMPBHLOxrI

— Successfully paid for cube (@Boringstein) January 21, 2023

lag∞n, Sunday, 22 January 2023 02:10 (one year ago) link

it is true that wine in a glass can be quite nice

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnIuvq1akAExhQS?format=jpg&name=small

lag∞n, Monday, 23 January 2023 13:38 (one year ago) link

oh no he’s been burgundy-pilled

Tracer Hand, Monday, 23 January 2023 13:40 (one year ago) link

Love how alcohol is "a scam" rather than a substance with effects some enjoy and others struggle with

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Monday, 23 January 2023 14:09 (one year ago) link

hi I drank this bottle of wine and halfway through the glass offered me a timeshare and the rest of the glass disappeared when i said no

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 January 2023 14:16 (one year ago) link

alcohol told me it wanted to sell my art as NFTs but that I would have to pay the gas fee

Karl Malone, Monday, 23 January 2023 14:43 (one year ago) link

I prefer to drink wine by sucking on a soaked newspaper.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 23 January 2023 14:52 (one year ago) link

alcohol told me it wanted to sell my art as NFTs but that I would have to pay the gas fee

― Karl Malone, Monday, January 23, 2023 9:43 AM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

ha she is actually a crypto person

lag∞n, Monday, 23 January 2023 14:58 (one year ago) link

maybe that woman found out that cheap alcohol gets you just as drunk as the expensive stuff and that’s the scam

mh, Monday, 23 January 2023 15:29 (one year ago) link

I eat one meal and think "i will never be hungry again". Food is a scam.

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 23 January 2023 15:35 (one year ago) link

ok I looked into why she thinks alcohol is a scam and it's even dumber than I could have imagined

mh, Monday, 23 January 2023 15:47 (one year ago) link

do share!! I personally drank some alcohol over the weekend and I can confirm that it definitely gets you drunk!!!

frogbs, Monday, 23 January 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link

Lol why is this presented as a galaxy brain hot take

Alcohol ads use themes like happiness, prestige, sophistication, success, maturity, athletic ability, creativity, sexual satisfaction to target consumers.

But the misuse of alcohol actually diminishes and ultimately destroys these qualities if you drink enough.

— Nicole Behnam (@NicoleBehnam) January 20, 2023

jaymc, Monday, 23 January 2023 15:52 (one year ago) link

she then later tweets that she has "fallen for this scam before"

I'm picturing her seeing a very sexy ad for tequila and then drinking like two whole bottles

mh, Monday, 23 January 2023 15:53 (one year ago) link

u fucking barbarians it’s about BEAUTY IN A GLASS. aesthetes know

normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Monday, 23 January 2023 15:53 (one year ago) link

drinking a case of dos equis to become the world's most interesting woman

mh, Monday, 23 January 2023 15:53 (one year ago) link

once u see red wine in a fine _ass_ that seems beautiful too.then the scam is clear. now u are stuck in a steely dan song. probably w don and glen. in hell. how u gonna unscam now?

normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Monday, 23 January 2023 15:56 (one year ago) link

lol @ this 'mind blowing' tweet

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 January 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link

Pay attention

— Nicole Behnam (@NicoleBehnam) January 20, 2023

👀👀👀

— Nicole Behnam (@NicoleBehnam) January 23, 2023

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 January 2023 16:34 (one year ago) link

i have to assume those eyes are on maricopa

Karl Malone, Monday, 23 January 2023 16:35 (one year ago) link

so funny this is all based on the Dilbert guy taking a Rasmussen poll and going "how shall we interpret this?" as though these "serious side effects" don't coincidentally only affect conservatives in America

frogbs, Monday, 23 January 2023 16:36 (one year ago) link

these tweets completed a 9th grade health class assignment

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 23 January 2023 16:41 (one year ago) link

this tweet drinks Coors Cutter.

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 January 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link

That alcohol scam tweet reads like something you'd post after waking up in the bushes in an unfamiliar neighborhood

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Monday, 23 January 2023 17:06 (one year ago) link

"No, honey, for the fifth time, I didn't cheat on you. I was intentionally scammed by that bottle of vodka!"

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 23 January 2023 17:08 (one year ago) link

I, too, have fallen for this scam

mh, Monday, 23 January 2023 17:10 (one year ago) link

elon admitting to price manipulation in court

This came right after Musk admitted, almost casually, that he thought investors would rely on his tweet in their decisions to buy and/or sell Tesla stock. https://t.co/TVA4cx209B

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) January 23, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 23 January 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link

You know I missed the marketing where alcohol enhances your athletic ability. Maybe a sport like driving donuts?

nah dude, alcohol made me a track and field champion. after a fifth of vodka before my 100m race, I lurched into my opponent's lane, stepped on his foot and broke it so he had to drop out

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 January 2023 19:51 (one year ago) link

i feel like babe ruth drank a lot and didn't seem to hurt him on the field or with the ladies

treeship., Monday, 23 January 2023 20:16 (one year ago) link

it hurt when he drove cars into trees, which he did often during his lowest point

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 January 2023 20:18 (one year ago) link

cars drive themselves now

lag∞n, Monday, 23 January 2023 20:19 (one year ago) link

into trees even

treeship., Monday, 23 January 2023 20:20 (one year ago) link

This has come up a bunch in testimony, so it's worth spelling it out: Musk seems to believe that the fact that he once tweeted that Tesla stock price was too high but it immediately went higher absolves him of any subsequent attempt to manipulate the stock price by tweet. https://t.co/K0bsyHigzL

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) January 23, 2023

legal genius

lag∞n, Monday, 23 January 2023 20:32 (one year ago) link

feel like i followed niedermeyer an age ago but checking his TL says i didn't

or that elon pressed the the big red button that makes me unfollow his foes w/o me knowing

mark s, Monday, 23 January 2023 20:49 (one year ago) link

lol re-following is already paying dividends, further down this thread he links to a story in nme.com!

mark s, Monday, 23 January 2023 20:53 (one year ago) link

wow shameless. i hope the sec fines him one million dollars

mookieproof, Monday, 23 January 2023 20:55 (one year ago) link

just literally using the Trump playbook of saying all kinds of shit so that no one can pin you down on any one thing

mh, Monday, 23 January 2023 21:02 (one year ago) link

Whenever my co's CEO tells us something big that'd affect our stock price we're all told REALLY STRONGLY that we are not to touch our shares or tell anyone else, on pain of legal/criminal punishment. Its not rocket science. Musk surely cant be that stupid. You talk acquisitions, you halt trading ffs.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 23 January 2023 23:57 (one year ago) link

hes really testing americas permissive regulatory regime, for no good reason

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 00:02 (one year ago) link

yeah, he’s being stupid but in a crafty way

it’s like when your parents told you something was the LAW and you’re like, ok, I am going to be cautious because if I do this things the cops will know and come arrest me! then you see others do the thing and the cops never show up. pretty soon you realize that it’s rare people get caught, but if they have money, they can lawyer their way out of it anyway, like a rich old man who never puts the required license plates on his car but just pays the fine every time

eventually you have money and haven’t seen any real enforcement and you’re Elon and you just do whatever because if you are a billionaire the cost of fines and lawyers far outstrips your gaming of the market

mh, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 01:29 (one year ago) link

in the US the supposed checks and balances system is kind of a farce and an afterthought based on constitutional interpretation (branches to create, execute, and judge according to to law) but we kept adding little hacks and totally new things like the stock market appeared, agencies that may or may not have actual teeth to do things. and there are even libertarian types who have now argued that regulatory agencies can’t enforce anything, and the concept is going through courts. are the SEC, FCC, etc really able to block things or levy fines without a jury trial? maybe not!

mh, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 01:34 (one year ago) link

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-64384278

likeness captured

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:32 (one year ago) link

Doesn’t look enough like a waterlogged corpse.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:44 (one year ago) link

ooof tremendously sad interaction

Thank you, Sir Doge!

— Mr. Tweet (@elonmusk) January 25, 2023

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 19:13 (one year ago) link

please clap

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 19:18 (one year ago) link

Mr. Tweet

castanuts (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 20:03 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnXIhv_acAIDbNd?format=jpg&name=900x900

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 January 2023 01:28 (one year ago) link

DETAILS: Rick Ross won't ride in Teslas because he's afraid they will automatically drive him to the police

"I've always had in the back of my mind, the government could tap into the brain of the car. 'OK, where's Rick? Nah, bring him in for questioning.'https://t.co/bWkCL9b3sP

— XXL Magazine (@XXL) January 25, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 January 2023 04:19 (one year ago) link

guess he forgot he is police

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Thursday, 26 January 2023 04:20 (one year ago) link

Rick Ross - Fuck Tha Me

castanuts (DJP), Thursday, 26 January 2023 21:24 (one year ago) link

The poor engineers at Twitter have to talk to these weirdos Elon invites and pretend like they're trying to solve the imaginary problem that their tweets don't get enough likes pic.twitter.com/Ikalc8GN1o

— Wild Geerters (@steinkobbe) January 27, 2023

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 January 2023 17:38 (one year ago) link

twitter engineers supplying dave rubin with a black box that makes his posts less shit

mark s, Saturday, 28 January 2023 17:48 (one year ago) link

at last a task worthy of AI

mark s, Saturday, 28 January 2023 17:48 (one year ago) link

it has self driving tho

@elonmusk @TeslaOwnersWW @BLKMDL3 Family was excited to receive Tesla Y delivery on 1/24/2023. Was driving on highway and all the sudden steering wheel fall off, was lucky enough there was no car behind and I was able to pull on devider #SafetyFirst #Fixit #TeslaModelY #help pic.twitter.com/4UMokFA2cv

— Prerak (@preneh24) January 30, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 30 January 2023 19:22 (one year ago) link

#fixit

mark s, Monday, 30 January 2023 19:30 (one year ago) link

If your steering wheel falls off just lean to the right or left to turn the car.

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 30 January 2023 19:49 (one year ago) link

You are too strong. I wasn’t able to fall off any steering wheel of my two Teslas. Lol

— Khlee (@Khlee15052283) January 30, 2023

Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Monday, 30 January 2023 19:52 (one year ago) link

xpost - Elon leaned so hard to the right that he's still spinning in circles out in the parking garage

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 January 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ClearcutAptGecko.webp

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 30 January 2023 19:59 (one year ago) link

it kills me that the I Think You Should Leave focus group sketch is basically Tesla irl

mh, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:47 (one year ago) link

he admit it!

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link

threb

2️⃣ The verification scandal in November was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Data from the Standard Media Index (SMI) suggests that ad spend on Twitter dropped by 71% in December year on year. It was 55% in November.

— John McCarthy (@JohnGeeMcCarthy) January 31, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:31 (one year ago) link

Since the Elonjet thing this guy seems to have scaled back his public bullshit. Maybe someone was able to convince him to stfu.

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:35 (one year ago) link

omg

God it's so fucking funny that he fired everyone who knows how the site works pic.twitter.com/cPxvEIUWkN

— Ashley Feinberg (@ashleyfeinberg) February 1, 2023

here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link

supposedly bonuses get paid out today so there may be another exodus happening

, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link

i think Twitter just straight up doesn’t have a support team anymore. an A-list celebrity’s account being hacked and used to phish payment info from fans isn’t something that used to just stay unresolved for over 24 hours lol pic.twitter.com/ELjISQcXPq

— LeMucus Triller Moth (@legotrillermoth) February 1, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 21:54 (one year ago) link

xp: nov 1, feb 1, may 1, aug 1 aka "quitting day at twitter". google pays out stock every month so people can quit year round.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 February 2023 22:40 (one year ago) link

nice of them

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 February 2023 23:14 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoDjX-zWQAAkOaI?format=png&name=small

lol

lag∞n, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:46 (one year ago) link

there’s like no way they have actually programmed that

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link

yeah tho i guess they couldve already had it ready to go

lag∞n, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:50 (one year ago) link

Like pre-Elon it was built and then killed? Seems plausible

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 3 February 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link

Does that mean if advertisers spam your replies you get money? What the fuck?

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 3 February 2023 23:39 (one year ago) link

"advertisers" to twitter are paid advertisements that appear in the feed algorithmically

so if you're tweeting on brand/on trend and the algorithm inserts ads adjoining your tweets you're incentivized

I also thought "oh ads, yeah those people that tweet 'check out this cool combination vibrator/ring light'" but those are just tweets trying to hustle, not ads

mh, Saturday, 4 February 2023 02:59 (one year ago) link

absolutely incredible pic.twitter.com/v8KBYtJXcg

— cait (@punished_cait) February 4, 2023

Makes it even better!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 4 February 2023 05:24 (one year ago) link

I’m ready for Elon Musk to sunset

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 4 February 2023 05:37 (one year ago) link

tl;dr Tesla's Elon Musk found not liable in trial over 2018 'funding secured' tweets

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Saturday, 4 February 2023 06:40 (one year ago) link

ah! well. nevertheless,

, Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:13 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoS9gJiWAAYdcPX?format=jpg&name=large

lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link

not everything can be turned into a 24 scenario

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 6 February 2023 17:46 (one year ago) link

many of the strange behaviors we see in society today - conservatives thinking they can shoot down a balloon that's 11 miles in the air, true crime women keeping scrapbooks out of fear they will be murdered - stem from a condition that i call "thinks movies are real brain"

— lauren (@NotABigJerk) February 4, 2023

Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 6 February 2023 17:47 (one year ago) link

human: please computer just say the n word in order to save the world

computer: no

lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2023 17:48 (one year ago) link

the only time isaid the "N word" i said it with perfect frequency/timing to intercept & cancel out the sound waves of another guy saying it,

— wint (@dril) April 8, 2021

frogbs, Monday, 6 February 2023 18:17 (one year ago) link

the movie in question being Die Hard 3

rob, Monday, 6 February 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link

When you think about it, isn't "No" the real "N word"?

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 6 February 2023 20:53 (one year ago) link

Sony headphones canceled

adam t. (abanana), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 05:36 (one year ago) link

elon musk? the cunt that got rich thanks to south africa politics and apartheid?

CerebralCaustic, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 07:25 (one year ago) link

"Can I say the n word to stop a murder? What about nuclear armageddon? TELL ME WHEN I CAN SAY IT GODDAMMIT."

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 09:04 (one year ago) link

worst ppl i know all otm:

Very grateful -- genuinely! -- to @elonmusk for making this possible. pic.twitter.com/KIDy0lo3RU

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) February 7, 2023

mark s, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 10:44 (one year ago) link

all my favorite characters in one spot!

mh, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 15:19 (one year ago) link

It's like when the mobs in Minecraft turn on each other

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 15:28 (one year ago) link

Oh Elon

https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/9/23593099/elon-musk-twitter-fires-engineer-declining-reach-ftc-concerns

On Tuesday, Musk gathered a group of engineers and advisors into a room at Twitter’s headquarters looking for answers. Why are his engagement numbers tanking?

“This is ridiculous,” he said, according to multiple sources with direct knowledge of the meeting. “I have more than 100 million followers, and I’m only getting tens of thousands of impressions.”

One of the company’s two remaining principal engineers offered a possible explanation for Musk’s declining reach: just under a year after the Tesla CEO made his surprise offer to buy Twitter for $44 billion, public interest in his antics is waning.

Employees showed Musk internal data regarding engagement with his account along with a Google Trends chart. Last April, they told him, Musk was at “peak” popularity in search rankings, indicated by a score of “100.” Today, he’s at a score of nine. Engineers had previously investigated whether Musk’s reach had somehow been artificially restricted but found no evidence that the algorithm was biased against him.

Musk did not take the news well.

“You’re fired, you’re fired,” Musk told the engineer. (Platformer is withholding the engineer’s name in light of the harassment Musk has directed at former Twitter employees.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 February 2023 20:37 (one year ago) link

i feel bad for this poor fired Twitter engineer but on the whole this story is so funny https://t.co/FhKNufNS6n pic.twitter.com/NTwF9zfz14

— Rachel Cohen (@rmc031) February 9, 2023



The disarray makes it less likely that Musk will ever recoup the $44 billion he spent to buy Twitter, and may hasten its decline into insolvency.


🫡🫡🫡

here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Thursday, 9 February 2023 20:37 (one year ago) link

man, elon musk sucks badly

Karl Malone, Thursday, 9 February 2023 20:40 (one year ago) link

Another victim of the tweep state.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 February 2023 20:40 (one year ago) link

Oh this too.. I'm sure the orders came from Lord Musk:

The president of SpaceX revealed the company has taken active steps to prevent Ukrainian forces from using the critical Starlink satellite technology with Ukrainian drones that are a key component of their fight against Russia.

“There are things that we can do to limit their ability to do that,” Gwynne Shotwell told reporters on Wednesday, referencing reports on Starlink and drone use. “There are things that we can do, and have done.”

Fuckers

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 9 February 2023 20:40 (one year ago) link

now there will be pressure to artificially inflate his impressions while also making musk feel like he totally earned it. the rich dude fantasy

Karl Malone, Thursday, 9 February 2023 20:41 (one year ago) link

this man is like a modern day Hans Christian Andersen fable

frogbs, Thursday, 9 February 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link

my god musk throwing a tantrum about people not paying attention to his tweets and firing someone over it hes further gone than i thought

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 February 2023 20:47 (one year ago) link

lmao this is amazing

rob, Thursday, 9 February 2023 20:51 (one year ago) link

interview to fill the suddenly open principal engineer position

"now...you're gonna have to kiss some MAJOR ass in order to work here. can you please show us how sycophantic you can possible be? seriously you are going to need to humiliate yourself on a daily basis if you want to earn the honor of writing monthly one-pagers to plead for your job"

Karl Malone, Thursday, 9 February 2023 20:52 (one year ago) link

the hilarious thing is the obvious way to solve this problem for elon is bots

rob, Thursday, 9 February 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link

“There’s times he’s just awake late at night and says all sorts of things that don’t make sense,” one employee said. “And then he’ll come to us and be like, ‘this one person says they can’t do this one thing on the platform,’ and then we have to run around chasing some outlier use case for one person. It doesn’t make any sense.”

musky musky him sad man in his room

“You’re fired, you’re fired"

kinda has a 'hitler's final days in the bunker' vibe, when he was all spun out on speed

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 9 February 2023 20:57 (one year ago) link

lol this list

“We haven’t seen much in the way of longer term, cogent strategy,” one employee said. “Most of our time is dedicated to three main areas: putting out fires (mostly caused by firing the wrong people and trying to recover from that), performing impossible tasks, and ‘improving efficiency’ without clear guidelines of what the expected end results are. We mostly move from dumpster fire to dumpster fire, from my perspective.”

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 February 2023 20:57 (one year ago) link

I hope the thing that got the guy fired was him finally snapping and yelling "it's because your tweets SUCK!"
Like how much "engagement" are you going to get with a daily avalanche of "concerning" or "interesting"

Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 9 February 2023 20:57 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/jAfqEgF.png

mr. musk? um, you asked me to let you know when the dilbert guy compliments you. he says you're doing a great job

Karl Malone, Thursday, 9 February 2023 20:59 (one year ago) link

also we cleaned out your piss jars, they're all fresh for the week

Karl Malone, Thursday, 9 February 2023 21:00 (one year ago) link

Balls to the wall there.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 February 2023 21:04 (one year ago) link

that starlink thing doesnt make any sense. why would you piss off the DoD, the biggest gravy train around?

micah, Thursday, 9 February 2023 21:07 (one year ago) link

seems like musk might not be good at business

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 February 2023 21:10 (one year ago) link

i know this is juvenile and also physical assault but it must be really tempting to pants him during meetings

Karl Malone, Thursday, 9 February 2023 21:13 (one year ago) link

the whole thing about 'starlink was never intended to be weaponized' - hello, what about the ENTIRE LAST YEAR it's been weaponized??

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 9 February 2023 21:15 (one year ago) link

lol no one tell Elon where the internet came from

rob, Thursday, 9 February 2023 21:24 (one year ago) link

Can't wait until the USAF discovers that they invested https://spacenews.com/spacex-gets-1-9-million-air-force-contract-for-starlink-services-in-europe-and-africa/.9 million in something that's not supposed to be weaponized.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 9 February 2023 21:26 (one year ago) link

Nice interview about how Tesla exists as a stock-promotion/manipulation company first and everything else a distant second:

https://www.techwontsave.us/episode/154_the_tesla_crash_is_only_beginning_w_edward_niedermeyer/

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 9 February 2023 22:40 (one year ago) link

“We haven’t seen much in the way of longer term, cogent strategy,”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T-VAi2Xqq8

"Are my methods unsound?"

"I don't see any method at all, sir."

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 9 February 2023 23:16 (one year ago) link

confirmed

This was me, my 6.5-year stint at Twitter comes to an end today. Proud of the work we did and have full confidence the three or four people left will be able to honor Elon’s requests to artificially inflate his view counts (and view counts for advertisers). Not me though 🫡 https://t.co/VyXhUraCmr

— jordan (@jdan) February 9, 2023

lag∞n, Friday, 10 February 2023 00:47 (one year ago) link

btw not sure how twitter charges but is he accusing elon of fraud

lag∞n, Friday, 10 February 2023 00:48 (one year ago) link

lol woz emptying the clip, poor lil sorkin just wanted to talk about great entrepreneurs

Steve Jobs and Elon Musk are “very similar … in being like a cult leader,” says Steve Wozniak.

“A lot of honesty disappears when you look at Elon Musk and Tesla,” he says. They’ve “robbed my family … of so much money” by lying about their products. pic.twitter.com/qis7Z65snm

— Paris Marx (@parismarx) February 10, 2023

lag∞n, Friday, 10 February 2023 01:22 (one year ago) link

I like Woz, he's being measured in his assessment

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 10 February 2023 01:33 (one year ago) link

yeah, having read Woz's autobio I am deeply weary of his "oh I never ever tell a lie" schtick, as if that's a lock on the moral high ground in every circumstance, but those seem like pretty useful distinctions between the Cult of Jobs and the Cult of Musk. I can't imagine a site like folklore.org arising to express exasperation and fondness for Musk, who seems like an absolute dick 24/7. People listened to Jobs because he had charisma and genuinely loved what he was doing (even when he lost bigtime as a result), people listen to Musk because he has been financially successful without an iota of the other ingredients. If he wasn't wealthy there would be about 200 Jordan Peterson acolytes who admired his ability to be a dick in public, and a wide circle of disgust around that. Which I'm hoping for as the outcome of the Twitter self-immolation.

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 10 February 2023 03:49 (one year ago) link

Lag00n I think the Jordan tweet is a joke

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 10 February 2023 04:05 (one year ago) link

shdve checked on that

lag∞n, Friday, 10 February 2023 04:52 (one year ago) link

Wait, is it a joke that the tweeter was the engineer who was fired (i.e. he was not), or a joke that Elon is demanding the engineers inflate the view numbers (because I'm pretty sure Elon is actually doing just that in a Trumpian "hint at what you want done without saying it in a way that a jury would find you culpable")?

Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 10 February 2023 15:16 (one year ago) link

the first

, Friday, 10 February 2023 15:26 (one year ago) link

i'm sorry guys, i was the engineer

mh, Friday, 10 February 2023 15:38 (one year ago) link

its a me engineerio

lag∞n, Friday, 10 February 2023 16:11 (one year ago) link

this guy

Musk surrounded by dudes who tell him it’s cool how he steals memes pic.twitter.com/dECKUw61NO

— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) February 10, 2023

lag∞n, Friday, 10 February 2023 16:27 (one year ago) link

"What color shirt is he wearing today? Black? Okay, got it - black it is."

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 10 February 2023 17:42 (one year ago) link

well they probably have a duffel with some shirts next to their bed they slept in at the office, so it's pretty easy to match Elon's look for the day

octobeard, Friday, 10 February 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link

I don't think it's body-shaming to say that Elon could really use a few minutes outdoors everyday, in the sun and fresh air

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 10 February 2023 20:31 (one year ago) link

hey, he's trying to fit in with the nerds

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 10 February 2023 20:34 (one year ago) link

ENGINEER 1: your engagement is tanking bc you're less popular

ELON: you're fired

ENGINEER 2: your engagement is tanking... because.. uh... you're TOO popular

ELON: i like this guy pic.twitter.com/HNbBeE4ncv

— Rob DenBleyker (@RobDenBleyker) February 12, 2023

lag∞n, Sunday, 12 February 2023 21:56 (one year ago) link

95% of his tweets weren’t “getting delivered at all”? How much does he tweet? I don’t even follow him but I still his tweets all the damn time.

i think he means that it wouldn't appear on the feeds of 95% of his followers, or whatever. the tweets would get through, but due to his massive popularity and how much everyone wants to know what he's tweeting, it would overload the system and fail to reach most of the people who definitely wanted to read those tweets

President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Sunday, 12 February 2023 22:48 (one year ago) link

i wonder what he's doing right now

President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Sunday, 12 February 2023 22:49 (one year ago) link

I had to block him to get them to stop appearing in my feed constantly, wtf is he talking about

frogbs, Sunday, 12 February 2023 22:49 (one year ago) link

Whenever Elon's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking, "where's Elon?"

Vinnie, Sunday, 12 February 2023 23:39 (one year ago) link

I mean, hasnt everyone always complained the algo of this and FB is crap at showing ppl you follow? Is he gonna address it for everyone or just his posts hahahaha what am I saying.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 13 February 2023 02:33 (one year ago) link

sitting with rupert murdoch at the superbowl a lil too on the nose

lag∞n, Monday, 13 February 2023 02:35 (one year ago) link

Pi-kapika!

P1k4chu, Monday, 13 February 2023 03:05 (one year ago) link

lmao he deleted his "Go Eagles" tweet right after they lost. what a loser.

frogbs, Monday, 13 February 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link

he jinxed them

lag∞n, Monday, 13 February 2023 17:10 (one year ago) link

He lost a bet. Jackson Mahomes now head of Twitter marketing.

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 13 February 2023 19:11 (one year ago) link

People of Earth!

Looking forward to Tesla Investor Day on March 1.

By this, we mean the broadest definition of investor, as in the people & life of Earth.

It will be a message of good hope & positivity for the future.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 13, 2023

lmfbo

NEW: Elon Musk directed Twitter engineers to design a secret system to boost his tweets over everyone else's after his post about the Super Bowl did poorly compared to President Biden's: https://t.co/HsJ0BZOSCI

— Zoë Schiffer (@ZoeSchiffer) February 15, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 01:28 (one year ago) link

got to hand it to him he’s the coolest

Clay, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 01:29 (one year ago) link

I'm surprised he still lets users block him.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 01:29 (one year ago) link

buddy calm down just submit a ticket

His deputies told the rest of the engineering team this weekend that if the engagement issue wasn’t “fixed,” they would all lose their jobs as well.

Late Sunday night, Musk addressed his team in-person. Roughly 80 people were pulled in to work on the project, which had quickly become priority number one at the company. Employees worked through the night investigating various hypotheses about why Musk’s tweets weren’t reaching as many people as he thought they should and testing out possible solutions.

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 01:31 (one year ago) link

But there were also legitimate technical reasons the CEO’s tweets weren’t performing. Twitter’s system has historically promoted tweets from users whose posts perform better to both followers and non-followers in the For You Tab; Musk’s tweets should have fit that model but showed up less only about half the time that some engineers thought they should, according to some internal estimates.

By Monday afternoon, “the problem” had been “fixed.” Twitter deployed code to automatically “greenlight” all of Musk’s tweets, meaning his tweets will bypass Twitter’s filters designed to show people the best content possible. The algorithm now artificially boosted Musk’s tweets by a factor of 1,000 – a constant score that ensured his tweets rank higher than anyone else’s in the feed.

Internally, this is called a “power user multiplier,” although it only applies to Elon Musk, we’re told. The code also allows Musk’s account to bypass Twitter heuristics that would otherwise prevent a single account from flooding the core ranked feed, now known as “For You.”

That explains why people opening the app Monday found that Musk dominated the feed, with a dozen or more Musk tweets and replies visible to anyone who followed him and millions more who did not. Over 90 percent of Musk’s followers now see his tweets, according to one internal estimate.

President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 01:33 (one year ago) link

the only power user

*elon musk 'hmphs'*

President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 01:34 (one year ago) link

Over 90 percent of Musk’s followers now see his tweets, according to one internal estimate.

Good, they deserve it.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 01:43 (one year ago) link

god this is the most pathetic thing, I'm actually embarrassed for him

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 02:29 (one year ago) link

He's so funny. Just unmoored, that guy. He has a lot of needs.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 02:35 (one year ago) link

I wouldn't have thought it should cost billions of dollars to turn yourself into Poochie

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 03:03 (one year ago) link

gonna be funny when he unloads twitter to some vc for a fraction of what he paid

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 03:05 (one year ago) link

this must be in his pre-acquisition plan for bankrupting it imo

normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 03:18 (one year ago) link

Gonna get seized by the banks

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 03:55 (one year ago) link

Question for the Twitter users: If I understand correctly there is a chronological feed you can choose that shows you all the tweets by all the people you follow in chronological order but I guess nobody uses it or knows about it? If there is, is the “problem”really that Elon and all the right wingers want everyone to see their tweets all the time no matter if you want to or not using the “algorithm”?

NB: I haven’t signed up for Twitter only read it through stuff people text me or from here.)

Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 13:45 (one year ago) link

• there is a chronological feed and lots of people know about it and use it
• its main drawbacks are that if you follow a lot of bots (as i do) then mostly the chronological feed shows you bots and not discourse, or only the discourse of the busily active
• a benefit does seem to be that i never encounter his thin-skinned lordship
• for some time when "for you" debuted you would be defaulted back to it every time you logged in -- this seems to no longer be the case?
• if you have alts then you will get the default "for you" after you switch back from an alt to main, and apparently for a few times after that
• to begin with "for you" did sometimes deliver unexpected random stuff that was good not bad which the chronological feed generally doesn't, but now it apparently primarily delivers a deep crust of musk's shitty tweets for you to trudge through

mark s, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 13:58 (one year ago) link

I've switched to 'for you' as I don't follow that many people and I miss the unexpected random stuff. I've seen zero musk content (except for people dunking on him), the main disadvantage of 'for you' for er me is that i see some tweets more than once, seven times is the most i've counted so far.

ledge, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 14:03 (one year ago) link

yes maybe the elon-sludge issue has been cleared up? i only read about it tbf, that he was suddenly all over everyone's TL after the superbowl -- anyway i just switched to my main alt and back and saw nothing of his. on the whole i find curation p effective tbh (i follow a ton of bots and i go on block-sprees for promoted accounts)

mark s, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 14:20 (one year ago) link

Elon Sludge would have been a good name for this guy, like Sly Sludge from Captain Planet and the Planeteers.

got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 14:30 (one year ago) link

I've switched to 'for you' as I don't follow that many people and I miss the unexpected random stuff. I've seen zero musk content (except for people dunking on him), the main disadvantage of 'for you' for er me is that i see some tweets more than once, seven times is the most i've counted so far.

This is my experience as well. I only follow a couple of hundred people, and a lot of them seem to have peeled off/made their escape, so sometimes I'll click "For You" just to see something new/surprising. (This will occasionally surface tweets by people I follow that I was not previously shown, for some reason.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 14:40 (one year ago) link

garbage day called his posting style "radioactive levels of Keep Calm And Chive On divorced Funko Pop brain" which sounds right

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 17:58 (one year ago) link

uuuuuuugh that is brutally accurate

President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 17:59 (one year ago) link

Swore I thought I had already blocked him but, yeah, starting Monday he was showing up all the fuck over my feed so I blocked him (again?) while we are still able to do so.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link

Blocked him ages ago, now only see people talking about his bullshit.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 20:42 (one year ago) link

as someone who's divorced the Elon discourse is really interesting in that apparently everyone thinks divorced people are weird scumbags

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 21:28 (one year ago) link

The code also allows Musk’s account to bypass Twitter heuristics that would otherwise prevent a single account from flooding the core ranked feed

total U2 ripoff

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link

My guess is that the ratio of divorce people to scum bags is likely the same as any population

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 21:47 (one year ago) link

i dont think people really think that its just a joke, not so much about being a scumbag more sweaty denial like a mid life crisis

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 22:03 (one year ago) link

the divorced guy stereotype is homosocial renewed burst of bottom-of-the-barrel misogyny a la scott adams afaict. my own divorced brother very much fits this stereotype but it is undoubtedly unfair to lots of divorced men.

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 22:13 (one year ago) link

i would submit that there is an ambient flow in that direction and if you're a particularly unmoored divorced man it's easy to go that way.

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 22:34 (one year ago) link

One of the unpleasant things I occasionally encountered in my just-divorced years was meeting another divorced guy who would take our similar states as grounds to launch into bitter diatribes about women. I would curtail the conversations as quickly as possible. I never ever wanted to be that guy.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 22:41 (one year ago) link

(Not least becz as a divorced guy I was way more interested in meeting and talking to women than talking to other lonely dudes.)

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 22:41 (one year ago) link

https://i.redd.it/gwq41svhgzk71.jpg

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 22:47 (one year ago) link

some men are very immature and respond to pain by crawling back into the womb of boyhood

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 22:48 (one year ago) link

being a Divorced Guy is different from being a guy who got divorced

more crankable (sic), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 22:54 (one year ago) link

bachelor arms would be a great name for a fisting event.

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 23:00 (one year ago) link

some men are very immature and respond to pain by crawling back into the womb of boyhood


Hey I liked women as a boy they smelled nice

Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 23:16 (one year ago) link

ah interesting

Tesla is recalling ~10% of all the cars it has ever sold https://t.co/5vFaQYEz49

— hal 👾 (@halhod) February 16, 2023

Tesla is voluntarily recalling 362,758 vehicles equipped with the company’s experimental driver-assistance software, which is marketed as Full Self-Driving Beta or FSD Beta, in the US, according to a recall notice out Thursday. Tesla will deliver an over-the-air software update to cars to address the issues, the recall notice said.

The FSD Beta system may cause crashes by allowing the affected vehicles to: “Act unsafe around intersections, such as traveling straight through an intersection while in a turn-only lane, entering a stop sign-controlled intersection without coming to a complete stop, or proceeding into an intersection during a steady yellow traffic signal without due caution,” according to a safety recall report on the website of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

The FSD Beta system may also have trouble responding appropriately “to changes in posted speed limits,” the notice said.

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 February 2023 19:17 (one year ago) link

and now this!

Tesla fires dozens of employees in retaliation for organizing

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/16/tesla-fires-dozens-of-workers-over-union-campaign-complaint-alleges.html

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 February 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link

man thats just brazen

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 February 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link

fwiw muting him works better than blocking

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 February 2023 04:41 (one year ago) link

Killing him would be even better.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 17 February 2023 05:53 (one year ago) link

As the former lead for Ads at Twitter, I can confidently say this man has no idea wtf he's talking about https://t.co/Hw4TfkFNJH

— bruce.falck() 🦗 (@boo) February 17, 2023

lag∞n, Sunday, 19 February 2023 20:23 (one year ago) link

Tesla thinks train is bunch of slow trucks pic.twitter.com/1cidVc58tC

— James Urbaniak (@JamesUrbaniak) February 19, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 20 February 2023 14:41 (one year ago) link

Convoy!

nickn, Monday, 20 February 2023 22:25 (one year ago) link

let's be real: a train really is a series of slow trucks

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 00:40 (one year ago) link

someone had to say it

mh, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 01:29 (one year ago) link

they even toot their horns like slow trucks do

President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 01:40 (one year ago) link

what do these people think the bronze age was like pic.twitter.com/tMc9WS8vZ2

— m (@kept_simple) February 20, 2023

weirdos

President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 01:51 (one year ago) link

not sure why i posted that here, other than andreessen being a twitter investor and also because i immediately imagined elon tweeting "interesting" in response to that

President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 01:52 (one year ago) link

Why did the Bronze Age collapse? It got too woke. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Bronze_Age_collapse?wprov=sfti1

Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 01:55 (one year ago) link

I remember this season of Game of Thrones.

Competing theories of the cause of the Late Bronze Age collapse have been proposed since the 19th century. These include volcanic eruptions, droughts, disease, invasions by the Sea Peoples or migrations of the Dorians, economic disruptions due to increased ironworking, and changes in military technology and methods that brought the decline of chariot warfare.

i have honestly never heard of anyone hoping to restore the bronze age. i truly don't even know what he means by that. kudos to him for coming up with something new i guess

President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 02:00 (one year ago) link

The Bronze Age thing is a rancid shtick like all the rest of the aggressive half-jokey Proud Boy/Boogaloo Boys bullshit. White supremacist fantasizing.

The nerds triumphed, and proceeded to replicate a creepily envious conception of the value system of the jocks who had oppressed them.

— Matt Steinglass's Elon Musk parody acct 🇺🇸 🇳🇱 (@mattsteinglass) February 21, 2023

wow someone needs to watch revenge of the nerds two where they become friends

lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 02:30 (one year ago) link

tesla just forgot to make new models or what

Imagine the head of the China Passenger Car Association saying this about your company. $TSLAhttps://t.co/YQSewueTiI pic.twitter.com/drtbhmazvv

— Motorhead (@BradMunchen) February 20, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 02:34 (one year ago) link

btw i saw a tesla x the one with the fold up doors charging in the dead mall parking lot today not a common site in northern vermont

lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 02:36 (one year ago) link

then later i saw them taking in a senic vista with the doors up

lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 02:36 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vGthsqPOsk

, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 02:38 (one year ago) link

lol rough whyd they make it on the back doors but not the front hey check out these cool doors i never use

lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 02:45 (one year ago) link

my close friend was with our friend I know though him in a tesla this past week, and the FSD got turned on. it was for a route in a suburb, pretty open streets that are marked, and it tried to move into non-lanes or turn where there wasn’t a turn a half-dozen times

tbrr this tesla owner is the guy who has owned every windows phone, he has beta tester personality

also how have people not made the joke that FSD beta is for betas

mh, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 02:52 (one year ago) link

Why did the Bronze Age collapse? It got too woke.

based on no knowledge i was like "they were drinking lead" but i guess that's one of the guesses

wow someone needs to watch revenge of the nerds two where they become friends

i wanna say nah they need pt 3 where everyone is totally enslaved/indentured by nerd billionaires and a few jock crony oligarchs is more on point, but some shit's not funny is it?

it end's up ok, some marry indie stars and have kids named c3po and shit

liberal with a capital LIE (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 03:49 (one year ago) link

or ends

liberal with a capital LIE (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 03:50 (one year ago) link

(Anyone seriously interested in Bronze Age Collapse stuff would do well to check out the recent Tides of History episodes on the matter -- if you start here, go through the end of the season and the beginning of the new one, you'll find a lot of good stuff:

https://wondery.com/shows/tides-of-history/season/4/?epPage=12

I admit to being a regular Wyman listener, he does his job very well.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 05:18 (one year ago) link

Also the book “1177 B.C. The Year Civilization Collapsed”

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 16:23 (one year ago) link

if i remember correctly, that was the year when non-aggressive, doubtful people briefly asserted themselves. the buildings weren't very tall back then, but nonetheless they began falling down out of weakness

President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 19:09 (one year ago) link

"if people aren't aggressively procreating within me, why should i even be here", asked one local building

President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 19:10 (one year ago) link

People looking back through history always imagine that they would have been the ones in the palace

— Adrian Bonenberger (@AdrianBonenber1) February 20, 2023

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 19:15 (one year ago) link

Easily verified by the high percentage of 'past life regressions' that replicate that fantasy. And even if they weren't some warrior-prince or a queen, they were something vaguely glamorous, like a witch-herbalist-healer who was revered by all. Never a starving peasant kicked in the head by an ox as a child.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 20:18 (one year ago) link

"Dennis, there's some lovely filth over 'ere!"

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link

"No one wore ox helmets when we were kids, and I turned out alright!"

peace, man, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 21:33 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk getting closer and closer with Andrew Tate's friend group https://t.co/ua32InzzV3

— Kat Tenbarge (@kattenbarge) February 23, 2023

better than whoever you are (gyac), Thursday, 23 February 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link

wonder if elon will lose all his companies and just end up a sad right wing influencer

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 February 2023 18:30 (one year ago) link

it’s coming

Clay, Thursday, 23 February 2023 18:31 (one year ago) link

xp already got the Divorced for it

better than whoever you are (gyac), Thursday, 23 February 2023 18:34 (one year ago) link

re bronze age retvrn

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpxYwPaXwAEikBi?format=jpg&name=large

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 February 2023 00:23 (one year ago) link

fwiw i dont know the source of the photo or really anything about it but i love it

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 February 2023 00:24 (one year ago) link

bronze age mindset going to town on some ribs baby!

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 February 2023 00:25 (one year ago) link

btw i love that mindset has become a dumb guy buzzword its perfect

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 February 2023 00:26 (one year ago) link

XPs "I want my Bronze-back Bronze-back Bronze-back Mindset"

<BARBECUE SAUCE>

oh wow what a feast. the first rule of bronze age mindset is never be outside for more than 5 minutes.

ꙮ (map), Saturday, 25 February 2023 00:37 (one year ago) link

Majors, L-R: communications, psychology, computer science, chemical engineering, business, indeterminate

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 25 February 2023 00:43 (one year ago) link

btw funny thing about the bronze age collapse for all the stories told, the sea peoples is one of the most mysterious names ever, it like many collapses was likely precipitated by unfavorable climate change

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 February 2023 00:47 (one year ago) link

yeah iirc it was climate + a bunch of earthquakes in the main iirc

Clay, Saturday, 25 February 2023 00:54 (one year ago) link

i still support the sea peoples tho they seem cool

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 February 2023 00:57 (one year ago) link

i def align with the sea peoples they stole the grain when the time was right

Clay, Saturday, 25 February 2023 01:04 (one year ago) link

sailing around the mediterranean with your best buds raiding once great civilizations what could be better

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 February 2023 01:08 (one year ago) link

i failed to die at 26. I failed to have the bronze age mindset.

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 25 February 2023 01:36 (one year ago) link

Clay it’s good to see your posts!

mh, Saturday, 25 February 2023 01:50 (one year ago) link

thank you so much! i am recovering well and i love to post

Clay, Saturday, 25 February 2023 01:55 (one year ago) link

climate change and sea peoples aren't mutually exclusive! storms, earthquakes, fires, the lashing rain, the unprecedented breakers, riding atop them: the sea peoples

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 25 February 2023 02:02 (one year ago) link

one day everyone just wakes up like well time to set fire to the palace and they're otm

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 25 February 2023 02:04 (one year ago) link

because the palace is where the servers are and the servers are defended only by the guys in the pic above

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 25 February 2023 02:09 (one year ago) link

^^^ bronze age mindset

glad you're well clay!!

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 25 February 2023 02:09 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fp5WbG2akAIwuzE?format=jpg&name=large

lag∞n, Sunday, 26 February 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link

Sick of this

giant bat fucker (gyac), Sunday, 26 February 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link

Esther got laid off.

https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-twitter-layoffs-esther-crawford-1850162371

Twitter CEO Elon Musk has a message for employees: Loyalty means nothing. Over the weekend, Musk laid off more than 50 employees at the social media company, including one of his most vocal supporters, product head Esther Crawford.

Crawford famously made headlines back in November when she quote-tweeted a photo of herself sleeping at the office days after Musk took over Twitter in order to meet his crazy deadlines. Despite criticism from folks who said Musk was making Twitter employees work round the clock to prove themselves, Crawford took it in stride, stating at the time that “doing hard things requires sacrifice.” The Platformer newsletter first reported Crawford’s dismissal.

z_tbd, Monday, 27 February 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link

yeah we've been gossiping about it on the twitter thread

mh, Monday, 27 February 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link

oh whoops, thanks. my bookmarks went back to zero and i haven't added the twitter one on there yet

z_tbd, Monday, 27 February 2023 19:36 (one year ago) link

lmao

BREAKING: Elon Musk says he looking to develop a non-woke AI rival to counter ChatGPT.

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) February 28, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link

I’d say this is some skynet shit but it’ll just crash and burn like all his other projects

giant bat fucker (gyac), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:19 (one year ago) link

shitnet

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:20 (one year ago) link

Looking into it is he

piedro àlamodevar (wins), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:23 (one year ago) link

Concerning!

giant bat fucker (gyac), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link

normal times

Full video of the actual puja (worship) of Elon Musk at Bangalore, India.

Men's Activists of SIFF used to be often shadow banned from twitter by previous woke admins of the company.

After Elon Musk fired them, the MRAs have got back their right to free speech.

Elon Musk Puja pic.twitter.com/zzBoTiTuOV

— Save Indian Family Foundation (@realsiff) February 27, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link

I’d say this is some skynet shit but it’ll just crash and burn like all his other projects

― giant bat fucker (gyac), Tuesday, February 28, 2023 12:19 PM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink\

this is the way the world ends, with rival AIs tweeting "OK Groomer" and "Die in a fire!" at each other forever

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:40 (one year ago) link

do people not realize they can just post the n word themselves

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:57 (one year ago) link

Better to just blame the robot.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 18:19 (one year ago) link

The “can I use slurs to avert the apocalypse” tweets from a couple of weeks ago were A+.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link

good news, we'll finally have an AI that will use the n word to prevent a nuclear explosion. and then several hundred times after that too.

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 18:41 (one year ago) link

Just like in the "should we torture y/n" days when we were very worried that squeamish human rights do-gooders would stop Kiefer Sutherland from waterboarding the guy who would tell him where the nuke was set to go off.

did you know Kiefer Sutherland’s daughter played the daughter of the main character on Veep? makes u think

mh, Wednesday, 1 March 2023 03:26 (one year ago) link

They need to build more Julia Louis Dreyfus co-stars who Don’t say the n word

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 1 March 2023 03:50 (one year ago) link

what if its to keep the show from getting canceled tho

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 March 2023 03:58 (one year ago) link

this is the way the world ends, with rival AIs tweeting "OK Groomer" and "Die in a fire!" at each other forever


https://marswillsendnomore.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/weirdfantasy17repro-47.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 1 March 2023 05:12 (one year ago) link

(last page of Wally Wood's adaptation of Ray Bradbury's There Will Come Soft Rains in EC's Weird Fantasy #17)

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 1 March 2023 05:53 (one year ago) link

Tesla is barring some of its biggest boosters, who flew in specifically to see the event, from attending Investor Day today — and for what appear to be either petty or unexplained reasons pic.twitter.com/JnRpzANICk

— Brian Merchant (@bcmerchant) March 1, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link

"honestly close to crying, this is heartbreaking" lmaoooooooooooooooo what a dork

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link

sucks to get dumped (by car company)

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:36 (one year ago) link

if I won many millions of dollars, I wouldn't retire, I'd just locate the companies with the most Elon-esque CEOs, con people into hiring me for key roles, and deliberately sabotage major projects and violate NDAs and share secrets with competitors .

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:36 (one year ago) link

i hope he'll be ok

honda might be looking for a sycophantic rich asshole, could try emailing or following them for a while and see if it works out

z_tbd, Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link

nevertheless

ARK's first "GitHub" model published in 2019 had over 5 million Tesla robotaxis on the road doing 585 billion miles, this year (2023). The actual number will be zero. pic.twitter.com/qM7YuYUZjF

— Keubiko🇺🇦 (@Keubiko) March 6, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 6 March 2023 16:14 (one year ago) link

lets see what he's responding to as his website continues to misfire

Super concerning

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 6, 2023

frogbs, Monday, 6 March 2023 17:56 (one year ago) link

good lord

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 March 2023 17:56 (one year ago) link

its true you can be a total moron and still have like 10 kids

frogbs, Monday, 6 March 2023 18:00 (one year ago) link

lol this made me look up his IQ, which is not known but has been "estimated" at 150-155

(i.e. this is what *he* says it is i suspect) (lying as usual)

(IQ is a garbage measure in any case but also haha no way)

mark s, Monday, 6 March 2023 18:12 (one year ago) link

yeah i estimate my iq to be *turns to assistant* whats the highest number

lag∞n, Monday, 6 March 2023 18:30 (one year ago) link

I'm also super concerned about a 23-year-old study that reveals nerds don't get laid in high school

rob, Monday, 6 March 2023 18:40 (one year ago) link

if you kill elon you become the new elon

Elon Musk now has bodyguards flank him everywhere inside Twitter HQ — including accompanying him to the bathroom. He is reportedly paranoid that someone in the company may go rogue & stage a coup. https://t.co/BdTQvvJmqg

— William LeGate (@williamlegate) March 6, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 6 March 2023 18:45 (one year ago) link

I certainly believe that Elton is Super concerned that there may be demographics of children not having enough sex

piedro àlamodevar (wins), Monday, 6 March 2023 18:48 (one year ago) link

How many jars of his own piss are presently taking the place of all the staff he fired

giant bat fucker (gyac), Monday, 6 March 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link

In the words of Nigel Tufnel, "What are the hours?"

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 March 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link

has he endorsed phrenology yet? seems like his kind of thing

z_tbd, Monday, 6 March 2023 19:01 (one year ago) link

he'll need to have some head sculpting

liberal with a capital LIE (Hunt3r), Monday, 6 March 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link

what a pos

there’s no reason to treat someone like this

just an absolutely horrible person pic.twitter.com/kFiH5G2VUJ

— Matt Binder (@MattBinder) March 7, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 03:33 (one year ago) link

idk if that guy was for real but still

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 03:37 (one year ago) link

monstrous

treeship., Tuesday, 7 March 2023 03:40 (one year ago) link

that might be the most unprofessional thing I've ever seen, fuck this asshole

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 03:41 (one year ago) link

i would imagine he could get sued for publicly humiliating an employee who was just trying to figure out if he was fired or not after the company failed to communicate with him

treeship., Tuesday, 7 March 2023 03:43 (one year ago) link

he also doesn't understand the point of office space. having to constantly justify your existence to heartless bureacrats is what drives people to despair at initech. the audience is meant to laugh -- bitterly -- at management's lack of humanity, not the employee's lack of relevance.

treeship., Tuesday, 7 March 2023 03:44 (one year ago) link

can't imagine how horrible this guy must be in private if he's willing to do that in public

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 04:11 (one year ago) link

idk if that guy was for real but still

― lag∞n, Monday, March 6, 2023 9:37 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Obv can't vouch for the specific details of his job, but he did work there:

https://www.icelandreview.com/news/halli-laid-off-from-twitter/

jaymc, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 05:25 (one year ago) link

Also suffers from muscular dystrophy.

Mr Thorleifsson is worried that Mr Musk will not honour the contract he signed with Twitter when he sold them his company.

"This is extremely stressful. This is my retirement fund, a way to take care of myself and my family as my disease progresses. Having the richest man in the world on the other end of this, potentially refusing to stand by contracts is not easy for me to accept," he said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64871183

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 07:49 (one year ago) link

He seems like a real dude, and also a real dude

https://www.euronews.com/2023/02/06/access-all-areas-meet-the-man-building-a-thousand-wheelchair-ramps-in-iceland

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 10:12 (one year ago) link

Jesus Christ what a fucking asshole

The reality is that this guy (who is independently wealthy) did no actual work, claimed as his excuse that he had a disability that prevented him from typing, yet was simultaneously tweeting up a storm.

Can’t say I have a lot of respect for that.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 7, 2023

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 13:02 (one year ago) link

Yesterday I read somewhere that Twitter hasn’t paid their AWS bill in months and Amazon is negotiating with Twitter for points on Twitter ad sales.

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 13:08 (one year ago) link

I’d make a joke about selling the office furniture but he did that.

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 13:08 (one year ago) link

What ads? I haven’t seen an ad in weeks.

giant bat fucker (gyac), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 13:35 (one year ago) link

The replies from Elon simps cheering on that guy's firing is incredibly depressing.

jaymc, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 13:39 (one year ago) link

yeah

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 13:43 (one year ago) link

Jesus Christ what a fucking asshole

🐦[The reality is that this guy (who is independently wealthy) did no actual work, claimed as his excuse that he had a disability that prevented him from typing, yet was simultaneously tweeting up a storm.

Can’t say I have a lot of respect for that.
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 7, 2023🕸]🐦


Very Trumpian

Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 13:56 (one year ago) link

Don’t know how it works internationally but on top of all the other despicable shit that seems like a HIPAA/medical privacy violation to tweet about his requested disability accommodation

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 14:07 (one year ago) link

he def broke some laws but he doesnt care hes rich

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 14:08 (one year ago) link

The replies from Elon simps cheering on that guy's firing is incredibly depressing

It is but I assume someone with money and a mind like Musk is paying a giant street team (while still getting many always-online supporters gratis).

But even if he wasn't we should say that he is.

nashwan, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 14:09 (one year ago) link

genuinely curious how many people remaining at Twitter are actively looking for other jobs right now

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 14:11 (one year ago) link

there was a recent article that said it was most of them

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 14:13 (one year ago) link

i get it, it's like looking at a car crash but I don't know why anyone would read Elon's reply guys.

a (waterface), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 14:18 (one year ago) link

maybe 1 or 2 but then you just move on w/ your day

a (waterface), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 14:19 (one year ago) link

Unless you had mastered the ability to send aneurysms through the screen maybe

giant bat fucker (gyac), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 14:19 (one year ago) link

What ads? I haven’t seen an ad in weeks.

I haven’t seen a tweet with more than two replies that doesn’t also have ads in the replies for weeks.

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 14:36 (one year ago) link

Musk's description of that guy is a completely accurate description of Musk himself

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 14:50 (one year ago) link

What ads? I haven’t seen an ad in weeks.

I'm getting a lot of Epoch Times ads atm

lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 14:55 (one year ago) link

i got an ad for the san diego zoo and it was the only ad I have not immediately blocked in months.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 14:55 (one year ago) link

i have a long term experiment going where i block all ads except for junk food and booze to see if they will just serve me those, conclusion: no

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link

The replies from Elon simps cheering on that guy's firing is incredibly depressing.

like racist reply guys on a Sadiq Khan thread I use these chuds to up my list of blockees, at least until I master that aneurysm-via-tweet thing gyac mentioned above

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 15:05 (one year ago) link

I definitely wish that Twitter sent them a message when you block em, like "Stevie blocked you because you're a worthless danger"

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 15:05 (one year ago) link

This guy's good. Halli, I mean. The whole thread is great.

hitting the most divorced man alive with a “i sleep in a big bed with my wife” is killing me lmao https://t.co/i663ApGHVD

— maybe: xavier (@couldbexav) March 7, 2023

I saw also that this Halli guy is allegedly really generous with his money in Iceland and seems to be a really well liked guy. But even if he was a miserable grump, it's still fucking appalling to see Musk do that in public and ultra depressing to see the chuds cheering him on.

I just want this fuck to go away forever.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 15:48 (one year ago) link

I joined at a time when the company was growing fast. You kind of did the opposite.

There was a lot going on. The company had a fair amount of issues, but then again, most bigger companies do.

Or even small companies, like Twitter today.

— Halli (@iamharaldur) March 7, 2023

peace, man, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link

get him

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 15:50 (one year ago) link

Kind of want to poll the individual zings in that thread

giant bat fucker (gyac), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 15:53 (one year ago) link

“You only read on the toilet” is underrated

giant bat fucker (gyac), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 15:53 (one year ago) link

Are you under the impression this is going to look good for him https://t.co/XmjqQt01nA pic.twitter.com/MeYBKKq9EG

— isi baehr-breen (its pronounced ‘izzy’) (@isaiah_bb) March 7, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 15:56 (one year ago) link

Look at the hits in this thread.

We worked for more or less every big tech company.

We grew fast and made money. I think that's what you are referring to when you say independently wealthy?

That I independently made my money, as opposed to say, inherited an emerald mine.

— Halli (@iamharaldur) March 7, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 15:59 (one year ago) link

elon really is getting to trump levels of churning out awful shit

.@elonmusk knows how to get down pic.twitter.com/yIwcByxAuL

— Tesla Owners Silicon Valley (@teslaownersSV) March 6, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link

Nazi fuck

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 16:06 (one year ago) link

wow. the guy, Halli, that Elon Musk has been mocking is not only a class act, but was literally on a list of "do not fire" VIPs because of how expensive his exit package was (likely because, if what Halli's other tweets say are true, Twitter acquired his company for a good price) https://t.co/H1skqNyiHI

— Dan Seljak (@anotherglassbox) March 7, 2023

did Elon have any clue who this guy was before he started mocking him?? can't imagine how many lawyers are chomping at the bit to take his case

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 16:40 (one year ago) link

lmao, it does seem like he knew who he was and just didnt care, tbf hes lit so much money on fire already adding that guys compensation to it prob doesnt matter much

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 16:43 (one year ago) link

i mean, why would he start expecting any negative consequences at this point? he's free to do whatever the fuck he wants.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 16:47 (one year ago) link

yeah he's just going to stonewall this guy in litigation, I feel bad for him

, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:01 (one year ago) link

there is a non-zero chance that musk can use expensive lawyers to flatten this guy and pay him absolutely nothing

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:06 (one year ago) link

it does seem like he knew who he was and just didnt care

idk it seems every time something breaks on Twitter there are employees (or ex-employees) stunned at how little Elon seems to know about how Twitter actually runs, I would not be surprised if Elon saw the word "Figma", thought he was being trolled, and now has to double down on it because he's that dumb? sorta like how he got forced into buying Twitter in the first place?

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:12 (one year ago) link

idk he def a least found out who the guy was at some point because he was sharing info about him

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:14 (one year ago) link

yeah I think he found out after he started talking shit about him, that's kind of how Elon operates

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link

elon you huge baby bitch pic.twitter.com/SNjbodeeeb

— metal.txt (@metaltxt) March 7, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link

people are speculating that elon thought figma was some sort of joke the guy was just trolling, its design collaboration software

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqlgWCfWIAARC90?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:20 (one year ago) link

who knows tho, regardless elon should be thrown into a pit

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:23 (one year ago) link

i don't believe that excuse.

treeship., Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link

i dont think its an excuse

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:28 (one year ago) link

when all you have is a bofa, everything looks like a ligma

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link

people are speculating that elon thought figma was some sort of joke the guy was just trolling

I 100% believe this

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link

yeah then once he realized the guy was for real he doubled down to save face makes sense

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link

his paranoia about getting owned led him to a huge self own

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link

many such cases

treeship., Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link

sad

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link

Elon being one of the single-app dummies explains a lot

I get playing dumb as a bit on twitter but the thing that irritates me is people doing "I don't know what that is" or asking for explanations of what easily-searchable entities are because they refuse to do anything other than scroll and reply

I guess that's an argument for the all-in-one apps, just make it so you can click on any word and the wiki entry pops up. Not that he's going to read that, either

mh, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link

playing dumb is also a classic boss domination tactic

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:39 (one year ago) link

oh, is it?

mh, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:41 (one year ago) link

ignorance is strength

treeship., Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link

yeah he's just going to stonewall this guy in litigation, I feel bad for him

― 龜, Tuesday, March 7, 2023 12:01 PM (forty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is true.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:48 (one year ago) link

i had a tweet about the fact that twitter is still paging me do numbers over the weekend. lots of replies, as terrible as ever, but i also didn't see any ads.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:49 (one year ago) link

i had to mute that conversation everyone was faving your cute reply to me, an innocent man

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 18:03 (one year ago) link

yeah that was rough sorry

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 18:08 (one year ago) link

if twitter could monetize people explaining each other's jokes in the comments they would have a winner

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link

Halli is such a contrast to Elon Musk and the entire Silicon Valley model.

When he sold his company to Twitter, he took the payment as wages so he’d pay much more tax to give back to Iceland’s social system. Meanwhile, Musk fights higher taxes while taking billions in subsidies. https://t.co/zpHa6uA3Pb pic.twitter.com/dlVPYYkdZE

— Paris Marx (@parismarx) March 7, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 18:51 (one year ago) link

whooerps

wow. the guy, Halli, that Elon Musk has been mocking is not only a class act, but was literally on a list of "do not fire" VIPs because of how expensive his exit package was (likely because, if what Halli's other tweets say are true, Twitter acquired his company for a good price) https://t.co/H1skqNyiHI

— Dan Seljak (@anotherglassbox) March 7, 2023

z_tbd, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 19:55 (one year ago) link

he's not getting a penny.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link

lag∞n are you metal.txt?

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 20:24 (one year ago) link

no but im metal af haha

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 20:31 (one year ago) link

i never tweet out of character from my bot accounts i consider it a violation of the bot code

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 20:32 (one year ago) link

he's not getting a penny.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 bookmarkflaglink

He'll be ok, he has a wife and children who like him.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 20:39 (one year ago) link

obThread, this guy sucks so bad

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 21:04 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk is such a deeply terrible person even as a kid when another kid hospitalized him, his dad was like fair enough the kid almost killing my son had a point pic.twitter.com/6CZR6ecaRl

— Wild Geerters (@steinkobbe) March 7, 2023

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 23:14 (one year ago) link

Another very Trumpy thing about him, an absolute spoiled bully since childhood.

BBC has a little profile on the Icelandic dude... he actually does kind of need the money, or is going to need it at some point:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64871183

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 23:36 (one year ago) link

I would like to apologize to Halli for my misunderstanding of his situation. It was based on things I was told that were untrue or, in some cases, true, but not meaningful.

He is considering remaining at Twitter.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 7, 2023

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 00:18 (one year ago) link

POV: you just got a call from your lawyer.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 00:18 (one year ago) link

betting now all of the tweet responses are variants of:

"see? Elon can admit when he's wrong, because that's the kind of quality man he is"

OR

"Weak. you didn't owe him an apology CANCEL CULTURE amirite"

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 00:20 (one year ago) link

lmao

That messed up, why would those people lie to you

— Dan Nguyen (@dancow) March 7, 2023

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 00:22 (one year ago) link

"based on things I was told that were untrue"

that very sentence is untrue

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 00:35 (one year ago) link

it was the pizza deliveryman

he passed on a false rumor and i only regret that i believed him

z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 00:37 (one year ago) link

Fuck this guy forever. Obviously nothing he does isn't gross but secretly firing and publicly mocking someone with muscular dystrophy is ghoulish even by those low standards

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 00:43 (one year ago) link

if you read musk's tweets in the voice of a 13 year old who is being forced to apologize they're way better.

betting now all of the tweet responses are variants of:

"see? Elon can admit when he's wrong, because that's the kind of quality man he is"

OR

"Weak. you didn't owe him an apology CANCEL CULTURE amirite"

― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, March 7, 2023 4:20 PM

i'm cynical enough to believe that his public responses are a show and his actual response is to establish more bot accounts to post this exact sort of response.

.austinuos, plug forth. (Austin), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 00:45 (one year ago) link

I think experience informs us that you cannot in fact be too cynical about this guy.

I think when his Twitter bullying of a guy with muscular dystrophy started to get reported on cnn and bbc etc is about when that half baked apology got written

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 02:06 (one year ago) link

It's kind of astounding re: the subject of this thraed how quickly I've zipped from 'you are a person whose name and face I recognize and that's about it' to 'how soon can u do us all a favor and stop being alive'

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 02:11 (one year ago) link

he's not getting a penny.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 bookmarkflaglink

*6 hours later* he might be?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 08:51 (one year ago) link

god he embarrassed himself so thoroughly yesterday that nobody noticed he also spent a good part of the day retweeting Tucker Carlson's idiotic Jan 6 story

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 14:50 (one year ago) link

Hard Drive remains on his case, previously seen ratioing him repeatedly

well you're the expert on SNL's bad days pic.twitter.com/Ysb5oJsRBK

— Hard Drive (@HardDriveMag) May 30, 2022



reversing your charitable decision? for shame, Mr Musk https://t.co/lLnHSICJx9

— Hard Drive (@HardDriveMag) March 8, 2023

giant bat fucker (gyac), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:00 (one year ago) link

i think all this shows is that musk is maybe a little serious about trying to win advertisers back to twitter - publicly attacking a guy with muscular dystrophy who by all accounts sounds like he could play All Around Nice Guy in the next pixar movie is not going to assuage advertisers concerns with the platform.

i don't think the threat of litigation over his contract was the deterrent here, there's already hundreds of millions in comp that he's not paying to the former twitter c-suite iirc, among others.

, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:07 (one year ago) link

yeah agree it was prob more of a pr issue, it was getting coverage on tv, thats not great lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:09 (one year ago) link

Halli isn't another dev though. It's a different contract. Apologizing after that roasting was humiliating, so there must be more to it

xps

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:11 (one year ago) link

yeah, the salary seemed symbolic and not actually linked to him doing a lot of work at twitter. just the payment for buying out his company, in installments

wasn't there an episode of Silicon Valley where the dudes who were coasting as employees were just hanging on a rooftop on the corporate campus screwing around because they weren't assigned work and were running out the clock? obviously not the case here, but it's not unknown

mh, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:20 (one year ago) link

wild to buy a digital shop for $100m not something you see everyday

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:23 (one year ago) link

i wasn't talking about devs, i was talking about the c-suites' golden parachutes, which he is not paying xp

, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:29 (one year ago) link

acquihire at $2m per head and a bunch of those are prob admin bizdev type people that twitter doesnt care about perhttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-06/twitter-acquires-design-firm-ueno-adding-about-50-employees

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:30 (one year ago) link

If he's still actually working there (?) then I guess he's getting his monthly cash salary (although if he had to ask if he was still working there then maybe he's not even getting that).

But salaries are mostly irrelevant for senior leadership. They're <10% of their compensation. He's not getting any of the millions of dollars of accelerated vest stock he's entitled to if/when he gets fired "for cause" (ha) or leaves voluntarily.

We know this because neither has any VP+ or acquisition exec. I guess some of them might eventually. Seems unlikely. But the "uh oh elon really screwed up firing this person" stories that have come with every wave of layoffs have big "i'd like to see him wriggle his way out of this jam" energy.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 16:28 (one year ago) link

my assumption was that the novel "pay me for my company as salary" would mean he'd have an abnormally large salary unless he spread it out over a very long term, which seems goofy because it'd be odd to assume any social media company's going to exist for twenty years

so as a line item Elon would probably see he had the top salary and be like "fire this guy he costs way too much" without bothering to find out why

mh, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 16:54 (one year ago) link

SOP is that he (and esther crawford) would have had pro forma cash salaries similar to SWEs, i.e. maybe $200k in the US, presumably much less in iceland. the real ~$Xm acquisition money would have vested as stock (or now cash at $54.20) quarterly over four years, with a rider saying "you get all of it immediately if we fire you without cause" (which is not being honored).

i don't get the impression he made much of an effort to fire people with high total comp *in particular*. these people would have gone in the first wave otherwise. they probably earn 10x what everyone else at their level earns.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 17:12 (one year ago) link

I haven’t been following the Tesla stock price since it mysteriously rallied but I see it’s now dropped from around $200 to $184 in two days? Keep it going king

giant bat fucker (gyac), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 17:15 (one year ago) link

fwiw I'm going off this source: https://www.icelandreview.com/news/haraldur-thorleifsson-sweeps-person-of-the-year-awards/

it might have been a one-time payout as wages, not clear

mh, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 17:16 (one year ago) link

tbf, i don't know if his contract would have had a 'for cause' out. if he was the owner of the company he sold and actively chose to take his payment as salary instead of as a payment (whether in stock or cash) I doubt they would have included a for cause out. that would not be equivalent to taking his consideration as a one-time payout with no strings attached.

where musk could have stonewalled him I think is just dragging out the process by which he sues and tries to get the money he's owed under the contract. like, if he sues in iceland and wins a judgment, musk could simply choose to not pay. i doubt twitter actually sends any money through iceland as part of normal operations, so it'd be hard to enforce in iceland. which means he'd probably have to go to the US and get a US court to recognize the judgment and then to garnish revenue from twitter's bank accounts or something. but imagine the headlines - musk is making the guy with muscular atrophy who can't go to the bathroom without assistance actually get on a plane and fly all the way to the US to appear in a courthouse to get the money he was owed under the contract. that would not be a great headline for someone who is trying to convince advertisers that twitter is not a lightning rod of controversy and is safe to advertise on!

, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 17:28 (one year ago) link

i would guess the vesting schedule was the normal one, even if he took it in cash rather than stock.

Normally in such large sales, the payment comes in the form of stock or other financial instruments, which categorize the sale as capital gains

this is not true in the US and UK and it would surprise my if it were true in iceland. stock compensation is taxed as ordinary income. if it wasn't then companies could save money by paying their employees in 100% stock.

anyway, musk could have picked a less sympathetic guy to get into a fight with. twitter is full of them.

is calacanis still there?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link

that appears to be the m.o. here, just fire everyone and not pay for anything and then drag things out in court to the point where the different parties will take a much smaller settlement

not sure how that applies to the rent situation where they could just get evicted, though

mh, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link

yet another trump parallel

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link

xp it was an acquihire? i assume they paid ~$0 for the company, and the value was in tying up good people with golden handcuffs. and surely an exec wouldn't accept golden handcuffs without an accelerated vesting clause? that seems nuts.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link

that xp is to 龜 sorry

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link

https://techcrunch.com/2021/01/06/twitter-acquihires-creative-agency-ueno-to-help-design-new-products/

I think a lot of suppositions and conjectures are being made (the $100M figure keeps getting thrown around) but here's what was reported at the time

mh, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 17:38 (one year ago) link

$100M seems in the ballpark if that covers a nominal acquisition price (reading between the lines in haraldur's murder thread, it doesn't seem to have been worth a lot as a business per se by this time) and the comp for 50 acquihires for 4 years.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 17:45 (one year ago) link

idk if you ask me $100M is a business that is worth a fair bit

mh, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 17:53 (one year ago) link

in an acquihire that $100M is almost all going to people who don't own the business (i.e. its employees), and only if they stay for four years. the owner of the business gets relatively little cash for the business itself on closing (which is not to say this guy is not a mensch for voluntarily maximizing his tax liability).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:04 (one year ago) link

the thing is agencies are by their nature worth basically 0

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:06 (one year ago) link

yup.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:06 (one year ago) link

xp it was an acquihire? i assume they paid ~$0 for the company, and the value was in tying up good people with golden handcuffs. and surely an exec wouldn't accept golden handcuffs without an accelerated vesting clause? that seems nuts.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, March 8, 2023 12:33 PM (nineteen minutes ago)

i think there'd be at least some payment for the equity of the company, might not be the full $100MM deal price. i've never worked on one but this seems like a good summary https://www.cooleygo.com/acqui-hire-basics/

i'm speculating that halli would have received cash in exchange for ueno's equity because of this whole thing in the news about him taking a salary and paying taxes on it as ordinary income, contributing to iceland's social safety net etc. vs. a one-time cash payment for his ueno shares on which he would only pay capital gains tax. the previous sentence makes sense only if one of the options he was choosing between was selling his shares in ueno for cash + assuming iceland taxes long-term capital gains at a lower rate than ordinary income (which would make sense insofar as it mirrors the us regime).

the other option seems to be this structure that they ended up with though that does sound bizarre - that he gave up his equity for $0 in return for a guaranteed salary for life. maybe what was meant was that the consideration for halli came in two parts, cash for his shares + guaranteed salary, and he weighted it much more towards his salary? personally, i would have taken the lump sum and invested it in treasuries or something, which is the advice they give to all lotto winners.

side note, acquihires seem weird to me - employment is generally at-will (i.e. either side can fire/quit at will) and i think it'd be hard to force someone to basically work for a company without letting them quit. seems courts would not like that. so seems like you make them work by offering above market comp to the employees for a number of years. which i think is what the cooleygo article gets at and what you referred to as golden handcuffs. as elon would say, interesting!

, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:16 (one year ago) link

the cooley article says $2M per head is at the high end of the range for an acquihire - that seems excessive for a bunch of graphic designers, no? (apologies to all the graphic designers who read ilx).

makes sense to me that halli as owner of ueno would get paid a little more, say $10-20 million, as the gatekeeper, and the rest of the $100MM was split among the 49 other employees, that brings the actual cost per head down. and makes sense as to why halli gets put on the DO NOT FIRE list, you don't want $20MM of cash (or RSUs) going out the door in one day.

, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link

fwiw, i have been on the receiving end of an acquihire.

every share holder (which happened to include employees) got a lump sum share of the total acquisition price of $Xm in cash. (i got 1% of that $Xm in cash and paid off my credit cards on airport wifi the morning the deal closed.)

every employee who chose to stay got around double their market rate in comp over the following four years. the projected total for that was about $3Xm in our case. you're still at will. there were 7 of us. only 2 of us stayed for 4 years, even though we were paid much more than market rate.

i guess the point is that the acquistion cash to owners is not $0, and that's presumably the capital gain he elected to take as income, which makes that article make sense. but normally the ongoing comp an essential acquihire employee receives is larger than the cash they get as a shareholder/owner (that's what makes it an acquihire). the ongoing comp is what's normally subject to accelerated vesting, and what i'm assuming musk is not going to pay.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:29 (one year ago) link

$2M/head as comp over four years is about right. it's a little high for non-eng, but it's not crazy.

halli will have been on single figures million a year, with accelerated vest.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link

that makes a lot of sense, you're just bulk-hiring known talent and expertise

good posts

mh, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link

interesting post on this https://lethain.com/digg-acquihire/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link

that he gave up his equity for $0 in return for a guaranteed salary for life.

this would rule

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:35 (one year ago) link

that's really interesting caek!

i do wonder if any of the other employees at ueno actually had equity, or maybe twitter just sort of agreed to buy everybody's shares at different prices. i'm assuming they would not have given essential employees who owned equity the option to weight their equity more heavily than the salary potion of the comp. i'm assuming for essential employees you want their to be some sort of balloon payment at the end, to incentivize people to stay. if they gave halli the option to weight his comp toward a lump sum for his equity, maybe they didn't view him as essential.

i do recognize this convo is going off the rails. to bring it back, i appreciated the sick burn halli had on elon having twitter shitter bodyguards.

, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:41 (one year ago) link

i do wonder if any of the other employees at ueno actually had equity, or maybe twitter just sort of agreed to buy everybody's shares at different prices.

startup employee equity is so chaotic that i think anything goes, and the CEO/founder has a ton of influence on what happens. basically they have a big dial called "give myself less money or screw over employee-shareholders" that they are free to adjust based on their particular needs.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:44 (one year ago) link

xp yeah, he restrained himself but there were some nice mild insults in that thread

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:46 (one year ago) link

are people from iceland known to be really rude though? that might have been brutal

mh, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:48 (one year ago) link

this whole thing has been an absolute PR disaster for Musk specifically, and more broadly the wreckage of what was once Twitter

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:49 (one year ago) link

it's the worst thing he's done this week for sure

mh, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:51 (one year ago) link

just this from BBC:

Photographer Daniel Houghton tweeted "As someone who has worked directly with Halli Thorleifsson during a turnaround, this is super disappointing to see. Not only is his work ethic next level, his talent and humility are world class."

Mr Musk replied: "Based on your comment, I just did a video call with Halli to figure out what's real vs what I was told. It's a long story. Better to talk to people than communicate via tweet."

Dude 'communicate via tweet' is literally all you do all day long

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:55 (one year ago) link

yet I read both of those things as tweets and not as a BBC article

mh, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link

as the proud still-new owner of twitter i say: better not to communicate by it!

mark s, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 19:01 (one year ago) link

other uses are ok tho (muting people)

mark s, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link

this conversation is making me realize once again that i should ask all of you tech types for money. gimme!

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link

How much you want

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 21:11 (one year ago) link

I would like four thousand dollars

piedro àlamodevar (wins), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 22:00 (one year ago) link

thats super cheap. i want 40 million.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 22:22 (one year ago) link

us techies don't have any money, we have stock options and man buns

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 22:29 (one year ago) link

elon has money because he makes space rockets and automobiles

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 22:31 (one year ago) link

And never pays anyone

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 23:12 (one year ago) link

every day this shitwad finds a new way to fail beyond anyone who didn't grow up living off the proceeds of blood diamonds, it's almost impressive really. and still he continues onwards/downwards. is there no bottom? there is no bottom.

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Thursday, 9 March 2023 09:54 (one year ago) link

The bottom is suicide or life in prison. He'll likely fail into a pillow full of money instead.

octobeard, Thursday, 9 March 2023 10:54 (one year ago) link

assassinated on his own toilet by his own bodyguards, tywin-lannister-style

mark s, Thursday, 9 March 2023 11:05 (one year ago) link

oh my god

Elon Musk asked managers at Twitter to nominate their best employees for promotion, then fired the managers and replaced them with their lower paid nominees https://t.co/ngOh68eEZ5

— Luke Bailey (@imbadatlife) March 9, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 March 2023 15:36 (one year ago) link

is this how he ran tesla? it seems like he is actively trying to destroy morale.

treeship., Thursday, 9 March 2023 15:44 (one year ago) link

does he have this kind of control there? i'd image anyone else who is in a position of power at his other ventures, if they have an ounce of sense, has got to be drawing up plans to get him away from any decision making powers

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:54 (one year ago) link

Tesla’s board is very deferential to Musk but they could change their minds

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link

Musk being ousted would be hilarious, people would create videos of themselves burning their Teslas

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:03 (one year ago) link

perhaps he has become more reckless over time.

treeship., Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:04 (one year ago) link

i read an article once where a source inside tesla said that elon was quite carefully "managed," like they'd devote a lot of energy to placating his rages and preventing him from making any rash decisions. so he has been mad for a while. but it doesn't seem like twitter has a skilled enough asshole whisperer to keep him in check.

treeship., Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:05 (one year ago) link

from what weve heard about tesla and his other companies hes kind of like that everywhere a domineering impulsive boss but hes really letting loose at twitter because he hates the company and also he loves it hes a mess over there

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:06 (one year ago) link

i thought that little video clip posted here from a while back was pretty telling: the one with a group of dudes sitting around a table, staring at elon musk, who is staring at his phone, using twitter, and occasionally muttering to himself about what he might tweet. iirc, he says something that is not notably interesting at all and then one of the sycophants reassures him that he is amazing

i did try to search for it, but failed. this thread has 9574 posts, and also, i'm not sure if it was on the twitter thread, which also has a few dozen posts

z_tbd, Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:15 (one year ago) link

.@ElonMusk jokes about his plan to steal @HardDriveMag memes and post them as his own. pic.twitter.com/6XhIKXVfQe

— The Recount (@therecount) June 14, 2022

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:17 (one year ago) link

Your meme game is strong

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link

i read an article once where a source inside tesla said that elon was quite carefully "managed," like they'd devote a lot of energy to placating his rages and preventing him from making any rash decisions. so he has been mad for a while. but it doesn't seem like twitter has a skilled enough asshole whisperer to keep him in check.

― treeship., Thursday, March 9, 2023 9:05 AM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i wonder if he is...increasingly isolated?

omar little, Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:21 (one year ago) link

it's hard to fuck up saying "thank you" but the way he says thank you there is a fuck up

xp

z_tbd, Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:22 (one year ago) link

he's definitely entering the howard hughes mania part of his tycoonship

, Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link

probably the funniest genre of post by the type of person who pays for twitter blue pic.twitter.com/U5e7NB4Cye

— pudding person (@JUNlPER) March 9, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link

elon promised blue subscribers more engagement and hes not delivering lol prob cause he fired all the developers and cause you cant make people like shitty tweets they need to build an ai that will write viral tweets for people but they cant cause he fired all the developers

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link

haha, yeah that's where it seems to be going, or at least what they want: to make twitter users little CEOs of their potempkin villages. pay the fee to get better "engagement", then use AI to craft tweets because you can't think of good stuff on your own, then...i think the part that is missing is that the bots need to be there in order to give the AI tweets more engagement. elon may be making a mistake in trying to get rid of those, it's a key part of the delusion scheme

z_tbd, Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:38 (one year ago) link

you could have an ai that basically turns your account into a bot automating all the activities of twitter and interacting with other automated accounts, it would still give you the option of using twitter manually when you felt like it but why bother its already taking care of it for you, all you have to do is sit back and read your notifications, all negative content will of course be filtered out

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 March 2023 18:16 (one year ago) link

it could have a lil thumbs up thumbs down training system so it figures out how to generate stuff you like

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 March 2023 18:17 (one year ago) link

i read an article once where a source inside tesla said that elon was quite carefully "managed," like they'd devote a lot of energy to placating his rages and preventing him from making any rash decisions. so he has been mad for a while. but it doesn't seem like twitter has a skilled enough asshole whisperer to keep him in check.

― treeship., Thursday, March 9, 2023 9:05 AM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

well its worth remembering that Tesla was making cars before Elon bought the "founder" title and both them and SpaceX get a ton of federal money which I assume means you have to have a functioning board. so its only natural that Twitter would operate more like his *other* companies like Boring and Neuralink, companies which are uniformly terrible and may not produce anything tangible ever (outside of what Twitter's already done)

also funny to remember that this is basically how Trump operated too, anyone who ever worked for one of his companies or in his government has said the same thing, that things could only run smoothly if they kept him away

frogbs, Thursday, 9 March 2023 18:21 (one year ago) link

Company town: pic.twitter.com/DfDZk9q8W7

— Tom LoBianco (@tomlobianco) March 9, 2023

Cannot fathom how ugly and boring Muskville would be.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 9 March 2023 21:17 (one year ago) link

asshole whisperer

dying at this, thank u treeship

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 9 March 2023 21:21 (one year ago) link

So, a company town? Ive read Parable of the Sower, fuck off with that shit.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 9 March 2023 22:00 (one year ago) link

Oh duh the guy posting the img said exactly that, I'm a derp.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 9 March 2023 22:00 (one year ago) link

Idk if it's true or not but I often think of Felix from Chapo talking about how Elon is a rockabilly guy.

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 10 March 2023 01:10 (one year ago) link

btw ai-written social media is here now: https://www.theverge.com/23632371/social-network-future-ai-automated-chatbot-posts-linkedin

rob, Friday, 10 March 2023 13:46 (one year ago) link

twitter needs to catch up theyre fighting for their lives

lag∞n, Friday, 10 March 2023 14:02 (one year ago) link

honestly, as long as users don't care/notice, this feels like the future for most ad-based media

rob, Friday, 10 March 2023 14:06 (one year ago) link

Yeah I think a lot of content-generation jobs (copy writing, design) are going to turn into basically AI management, or AI specialists. Twitter will be all bots except for Elon and catturd.

some (most?) clickbait media is already heavily guided by "AI" (meaning: analytics + A/B optimization + specialized CMS), but who needs human posters when you can get people to lurk/look at ads while bots post

rob, Friday, 10 March 2023 14:26 (one year ago) link

My own life would be a lot better if an AI could cover government meetings for me, but I feel like that's a long way off.

That's an AI application that you could see being genuinely helpful, but yeah a little more dicey than reporting junior league hockey games

rob, Friday, 10 March 2023 14:31 (one year ago) link

I will never log off pic.twitter.com/a6VVruzFtJ

— steven monacelli (@stevanzetti) March 10, 2023

lag∞n, Friday, 10 March 2023 18:53 (one year ago) link

Can't believe that feature is still live tbh

nashwan, Friday, 10 March 2023 20:23 (one year ago) link

[money bursts into flames] pic.twitter.com/EPlbJ4B5Rw

— Dave Itzkoff (@ditzkoff) March 11, 2023

mookieproof, Saturday, 11 March 2023 02:38 (one year ago) link

he's down for any stunning losses out there, just PM him

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 11 March 2023 02:43 (one year ago) link

There's no way the Feds would sell SVB to a company that has zero banking experience and would have to start learning their new business by watching some Powerpoints. Elon may not know this, but he knows how to encourage his flatterers.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 11 March 2023 03:51 (one year ago) link

running a bank is easy, you just tell everyone to work extremely hard and extremely smart, or else

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Saturday, 11 March 2023 06:30 (one year ago) link

.@ElonMusk jokes about his plan to steal @HardDriveMag memes and post them as his own. pic.twitter.com/6XhIKXVfQe

— The Recount (@therecount) June 14, 2022

i woke up in the middle of the night and had the epiphany that the guy to the right of elon in the backwards baseball hat has big loftus energy. it is... so not gonna happen, bro

, Saturday, 11 March 2023 12:52 (one year ago) link

Halli, thank you for staying on twitter dot com

Companies and institutions that need to be bailed out by the government when they fail, should be owned by the government.

You can’t privatize the profit and socialize the losses.

— Halli (@iamharaldur) March 10, 2023

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 March 2023 14:20 (one year ago) link

Add anti-transgender to the list:

Not when they’re fed propaganda by adults.

Moreover, every child goes through an identity crisis before their personality/identity crystallizes.

Therefore, we shouldn’t allow severe, irreversible surgery or sterilizing drugs that they may regret until at least age 18.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 16, 2023

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 17 March 2023 19:34 (one year ago) link

responding to an account dedicated to making sure that as many people as possible die from covid and puts "slow the spread" in mocking quotation marks

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 17 March 2023 19:36 (one year ago) link

wow, he's pissed he has a trans daughter

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 17 March 2023 19:42 (one year ago) link

also, he started this whole purchasing Twitter fiasco shortly after Grimes dumped him for Chelsea Manning.

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Friday, 17 March 2023 19:45 (one year ago) link

i hope he fucking explodes

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 17 March 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link

seriously, who - beyond a swathe of twitter accounts that get off on the taste of boot leather - will miss this shithead when he dies?

dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Saturday, 18 March 2023 11:42 (one year ago) link

I hope he goes to Mars (soon) and livestreams his journey as he steadily fades away, like the death of HAL.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 13:21 (one year ago) link

every child goes through an identity crisis before their personality/identity crystallizes.

citation needed

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link

I think he’s referring to watching The Breakfast Club

There’s no way, if he does go to Mars, that he won’t be forced out the airlock before they even arrive.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 18 March 2023 22:20 (one year ago) link

pr✧✧✧@twit✧✧✧.c✧✧ now auto responds with 💩

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 19, 2023

is he trying to burn his empire down

lag∞n, Sunday, 19 March 2023 23:50 (one year ago) link

well, he’s not lying, it did that

I emailed asking whether they’d comment on the fact users’ blocks aren’t maintained if the blocked user is elon musk

I had a notification this morning he’d tweeted some inane garbage. Promptly re-blocked him, we’ll see if it sticks

mh, Sunday, 19 March 2023 23:59 (one year ago) link

oh sir, i love you so

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Thursday, 23 March 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link

the joke doesn't even work like that, what the fuck is he doing

frogbs, Thursday, 23 March 2023 18:12 (one year ago) link

i'm guessing, but i think he's going for the "this is so obviously not the context for that joke but i said it anyway!" angle, which i remember being very in vogue when i was 10 years old and is deeply unfunny

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Thursday, 23 March 2023 18:29 (one year ago) link

That's what she said?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 March 2023 18:30 (one year ago) link

but its not funny with "that's what she said", the whole point of that is you can say it a lot of innocuous things

its funny when like people recount their dreams and then say "when I woke up, my pillow was gone"

frogbs, Thursday, 23 March 2023 18:34 (one year ago) link

But it's funny because Hakeem Jeffries says things that girls say.

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 March 2023 18:36 (one year ago) link

Assuming blue tick Jeff there is a Twitter Blue subscriber with about 20 followers

groovypanda, Thursday, 23 March 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link

jeff curry is VP and head of marketing for a rival EV firm afaict

so he may possibly be being sarcastic?

mark s, Thursday, 23 March 2023 18:53 (one year ago) link

Twitter needs a sarcasm font

Elon Musk: looking into this

frogbs, Thursday, 23 March 2023 19:07 (one year ago) link

you're talking about knoopdogg373? This guy just retweets crypto shit and replies to Elon

It really is it?! 🤷‍♂️

— Jeff Curry (@knoopdogg373) March 21, 2023

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 March 2023 19:11 (one year ago) link

lol it looks like he already lost his blue checkmark? payment decline? insufficient asslicking of King Elon?

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 March 2023 19:13 (one year ago) link

He appears to be a desperately thirsty crypto dweeb.

https://twitter.com/knoopdogg373?s=21&t=z1egexpHAtHcPPxgbp4Hrw

The energy of a guy wearing no shoes buying one more lottery scratcher at 4 in the morning.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 23 March 2023 19:14 (one year ago) link

If you knew anything about Twitter, you would know when you change profile pic. They review account. Blue check will be back in 2 or 3 days 👍

— Jeff Curry (@knoopdogg373) March 23, 2023

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 March 2023 19:14 (one year ago) link

no my guy, i am neither famous enough to have legitimately earned a blue check in the olden days, nor a mark enough to pay for one now to have known that changing your profile pic throws it off (which seems really dumb to me and i don't remember seeing that under the old system)

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 March 2023 19:16 (one year ago) link

(ftr my snarky response was to his tweet and not your post Mr. President)

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 March 2023 19:25 (one year ago) link

Tesla Sells Out of Steering Wheels as Owners Rush to Replace the Yoke https://t.co/MfHGblkllP pic.twitter.com/iotelheUkh

— Jalopnik (@Jalopnik) March 24, 2023

lag∞n, Friday, 24 March 2023 23:53 (one year ago) link

oh god knoopdogg373 is from Montevideo

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 25 March 2023 00:41 (one year ago) link

lol

Elon Musk concedes Twitter is now worth less than half what he paid in email about stock grants, report says https://t.co/QC9sjo0WFX

— Insider Business (@BusinessInsider) March 26, 2023

Musk also told staff he saw a "clear but difficult path" to a $250 billion valuation, Schiffer tweeted.

lag∞n, Sunday, 26 March 2023 15:22 (one year ago) link

"clear but difficult path"

visionary

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Sunday, 26 March 2023 15:45 (one year ago) link

the thing we all know about

Musk says Twitter is on the path of an inverse startup. 5/5

— Zoë Schiffer (@ZoeSchiffer) March 25, 2023

lag∞n, Sunday, 26 March 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link

Musk innovating in the enddown space.

This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Sunday, 26 March 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link

oops lol

Twitter says its source code was posted online and worked to get it taken down from GitHub on Friday. Now it's trying to unmask the anonymous user behind the leak. Our sources say that the person is a former Twitter employee who left last year. https://t.co/mML5OXkUit

— Ryan Mac 🙃 (@RMac18) March 26, 2023

lag∞n, Sunday, 26 March 2023 22:27 (one year ago) link

who "left"

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 26 March 2023 22:50 (one year ago) link

Weird what happens when you fire a few thousand people

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Sunday, 26 March 2023 23:35 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/ymCxdvWK0Z

— hingo🫡 (@hingo) March 26, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 27 March 2023 16:52 (one year ago) link

Full Self Driving as they call it. Damage on the front end, driver unconscious. pic.twitter.com/il1ak11ukg

— Joe Sixpack Capital (@Joe6packcapital) March 28, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 March 2023 18:11 (one year ago) link

Lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FsUyJT_aMAA7fpB?format=jpg&name=small

groovypanda, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 07:26 (one year ago) link

Have any cult experts ever weighed in on Tesla?

rob, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 14:28 (one year ago) link

this is like letter writers trying to win a no-prize from Marvel

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 14:33 (one year ago) link

xp

this is a pretty breezy take, but yes!

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7a586dB2BLYEWTftCO1F7V?si=972592832ebd4909

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 16:14 (one year ago) link

ha yeah that makes a lot of sense, will listen

rob, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 19:13 (one year ago) link

my god is this man a loser

Remember when Elon Musk publicly discriminated against a disabled worker and then had to apologize when it turned out firing the worker would cost 100 million dollars? Since then Elon’s been repeatedly making friendly replies to the guy and the guy has never responded. pic.twitter.com/8ZgmR39FEa

— evan (@esjesjesj) April 1, 2023

frogbs, Saturday, 1 April 2023 04:59 (one year ago) link

Aw he found a new Stephen King

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Saturday, 1 April 2023 16:19 (one year ago) link

A federal jury has awarded nearly $3.2 million in damages to a Black former Tesla worker over allegations of racism https://t.co/z0nTPtAbzg

— philip lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) April 6, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 April 2023 13:26 (one year ago) link

Punis are v much of the point so i get the appeal but ow

alright alright alright alright (Hunt3r), Thursday, 6 April 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link

the hits just keep on coming

The cameras in Tesla vehicles are "designed from the ground up to protect your privacy," the company claims.

In fact, Tesla employees internally shared and joked about highly invasive videos of Tesla customers recorded by their own cars, per Reuters: https://t.co/ZdWX8QWtsx

— Will Oremus (@WillOremus) April 6, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 April 2023 21:40 (one year ago) link

tuff times

MCDONALDS CMO, on Musk:

“For many communities, his willingness.. to further an agenda under the guise of freedom of speech is perpetuating racism .. and a potential for brand safety compromise we should all be concerned about.”

(via ⁦@maxwelltani⁩) https://t.co/TNAXtddkcF

— Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) April 6, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 April 2023 22:36 (one year ago) link

rough words from an officer of a company whose CEO is literally a clown

frogbs, Thursday, 6 April 2023 22:39 (one year ago) link

And whose Chief Legal Counsel is a cheeseburger

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 6 April 2023 23:10 (one year ago) link

Mayor McCheese, Esq.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 6 April 2023 23:29 (one year ago) link

About three years ago, some employees stumbled upon and shared a video of a unique submersible vehicle parked inside a garage, according to two people who viewed it. Nicknamed “Wet Nellie,” the white Lotus Esprit sub had been featured in the 1977 James Bond film, “The Spy Who Loved Me.”

The vehicle’s owner: Tesla Chief Executive Elon Musk, who had bought it for about $968,000 at an auction in 2013. It is not clear whether Musk was aware of the video or that it had been shared.

lol

scanner darkly, Friday, 7 April 2023 01:48 (one year ago) link

Of course he bought that thing. What fun is it to have endless money if you can’t buy all the rides from all those movies you love ? Worked for Tom Cruise.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 7 April 2023 05:05 (one year ago) link

does Cruise buy souvenirs from art he feels fondly about? literally all I know about his personal life is that he uses slave labour and has pimps audition his wives, and has personal chefs that he'll recommend to colleagues - afaik he actively avoids demonstrating affection for specific pieces of craft or design

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Friday, 7 April 2023 06:16 (one year ago) link

Cruise bought his own P-51 Mustang, right?

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Saturday, 8 April 2023 07:44 (one year ago) link

I don’t know if that’s a car or a plane or a gun

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Saturday, 8 April 2023 08:12 (one year ago) link

lol

groovypanda, Saturday, 8 April 2023 10:01 (one year ago) link

What if it’s all three?

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Saturday, 8 April 2023 16:02 (one year ago) link

20th Century murican Trinity

alright alright alright alright (Hunt3r), Saturday, 8 April 2023 17:23 (one year ago) link

https://77snszqv.media.zestyio.com/Mustang.jpg

A two-seater, single engine WWII fighter

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Saturday, 8 April 2023 18:36 (one year ago) link

my ex uncle used to have a plane like that (hes an airline pilot)

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 April 2023 18:46 (one year ago) link

ta, looked it up - gonna say that buying a plane that you fly and then using it in your own movie 17 years later does not count as buying a vehicle because you liked seeing it in a movie tho

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Saturday, 8 April 2023 18:57 (one year ago) link

Definitely something a real genius would say pic.twitter.com/OGN5FecKAh

— Brian Hiatt (@hiattb) April 10, 2023

When Elon tries to actually have insights, he always just sounds like he's high. (Which I assume he is.)

its like how when one of your tires is bald the other three usually are as well. crazy when you think about it!!

frogbs, Monday, 10 April 2023 02:59 (one year ago) link

When Elon tries to actually have insights, he always just sounds like he's high. (Which I assume he is.)

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, April 9, 2023 7:54 PM

Not just high, but like a 16 year old who's high.

nickn, Monday, 10 April 2023 05:04 (one year ago) link

Not like he's high at all. Like the most annoying boy in your class when you're 14 who likes to make drug jokes but has never had so much as a toke.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Monday, 10 April 2023 06:51 (one year ago) link

OTM.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 10 April 2023 09:30 (one year ago) link

I think he's probably more pills but he's definitely fucked up when he's making some of these decisions, this mentions board concerns about unspecified recreational drugs in addition to Ambien way back in 2018

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/17/tesla-board-members-reportedly-concerned-about-elon-musks-use-of-ambien.html

isn’t that just referring to when he went on joe rogan and smoked weed?

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/musk-weed-1536332069.jpg

, Monday, 10 April 2023 13:48 (one year ago) link

*good drug jokes intensify*

mark s, Monday, 10 April 2023 13:53 (one year ago) link

if he did smoke weed I think he would actually be cooler and more chill, he sounds like he's on stimulants 24/7

frogbs, Monday, 10 April 2023 13:55 (one year ago) link

if he's posting at 3am after taking a bunch of ambien he's not remembering any of that shit

unfortunately, we're forced to see the ambien tweets

mh, Monday, 10 April 2023 13:56 (one year ago) link

I remember seeing someone say the word was that he was microdosing stimulants which is stupid enough to be true

michel goindry (wins), Monday, 10 April 2023 14:00 (one year ago) link

not to veer from thread topic, but the number of people i know who have recently let on that they're microdosing on serious hallucinogens all the time is really shocking to me. like, people microdosing mushrooms every day. blows my mind tbh.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 10 April 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link

were living in weird times

lag∞n, Monday, 10 April 2023 15:10 (one year ago) link

I've been microdosing cider

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Monday, 10 April 2023 15:31 (one year ago) link

I macrodosed some 8% cider last night after I’d finished the wine, it made me contemplate how my liver is the same age as my bladder

michel goindry (wins), Monday, 10 April 2023 15:42 (one year ago) link

so matt tiabbi had a disastrous interview on msnbc where his lies got called out and he had no defense. then twitter blocked searches on his account because he had substack links. he then quits twitter and musk unfollows him.

formerly abanana (dat), Monday, 10 April 2023 20:20 (one year ago) link

*taibbi

formerly abanana (dat), Monday, 10 April 2023 20:20 (one year ago) link

Is that some kind of slash fiction or did it really happen?

Beatles in My Passway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 10 April 2023 20:24 (one year ago) link

some haha's and hoohoo's about it over here

who is worse - Taibbi or Greenwald

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Monday, 10 April 2023 20:24 (one year ago) link

the most lol thing of all was that Taibbi demanded to be invited on Hassan's show so he could give his opinion about Musk and India, and then when he was asked about it was totally unprepared and seemed to not know what Hassan was talking about

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 10 April 2023 20:40 (one year ago) link

that was an oopsie

lag∞n, Monday, 10 April 2023 21:10 (one year ago) link

everything going well

Elon Musk Shares Private Text Exchange He Had With ‘Twitter Files’ Journalist Matt Taibbi https://t.co/t3DrjFH8Oa

— Matt Novak (@paleofuture) April 10, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 10 April 2023 23:47 (one year ago) link

Twitter responded to questions emailed on Monday with a poop emoji, an automated response set up by Musk.

come on

castanuts (DJP), Monday, 10 April 2023 23:55 (one year ago) link

Oh yeah, they've been doing that for a while. He fired their whole comms team and changed it a poop emoji autoreply.

Elon on this BBC interview says that being under constant strain and attack has been rough and emotionally hurtful.

Really validating to get this kind of feedback.

— Jason Goldman (@goldman) April 12, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 11:20 (one year ago) link

lol. time to ramp up the efforts even more

Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 April 2023 16:02 (one year ago) link

Reminder that Fort Lauderdale Mayor Dean Trantalis paid the Boring Company $375,000 last year for a study to dig a car tunnel from downtown to the beach https://t.co/xlQT0GSp06

— Alissa Walker (@awalkerinLA) April 13, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 13 April 2023 16:43 (one year ago) link

...and Lana Del Rey will write an album about it.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 13 April 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link

Bored to Die

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 April 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link

I missed the rollout of the new subscribe-to-Elon feature for $4 a month. Exclusive tweets and memes! What a deal. What a clown.

one of the funniest things is his insistence that “X” is the coolest name for a company

mh, Saturday, 15 April 2023 14:31 (one year ago) link

gen x sensibility

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 April 2023 14:32 (one year ago) link

also funny elmo signing a letter calling for a 6 month pause on AI development at the same time

scanner darkly, Saturday, 15 April 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link

he just needs a lil time to catch up

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 April 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link

🤖VERSION 2!
Asked Ai: "a song about @elonmusk ,#Dogecoin , @Twitter, @Tesla, @SpaceX, @neuralink, Mars, Multiplanetary species"

"Elon Musk's Power: Changing the World One Tweet at a Time"

✍️Lyrics - Ai
🗣️Voice - Ai
🎹Instrumentals - Ai
📽️Video - Ai pic.twitter.com/Rw6irXXxz6

— NFK (@nfkmobile) March 23, 2023

, Saturday, 15 April 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link

^ describes our imaginary future while it exemplifies our horrific future.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 15 April 2023 21:49 (one year ago) link

Thought that was parody but it's from an account that's a Twitter Blue subscriber and also a crypto stan

groovypanda, Sunday, 16 April 2023 08:06 (one year ago) link

What AI app are these people using for all the "Tupac raps the lyrics to 'Smells Like Teen Spirit'" videos?

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 16 April 2023 08:13 (one year ago) link

Well now that AI has created an artwork of sublime genius we can shut down the culture

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Sunday, 16 April 2023 12:58 (one year ago) link

Sorry but the definitive song on Elon Musk already exists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvSJORwb134

frogbs, Sunday, 16 April 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link

ok

“I’m going to start something which I call ‘Truth GPT’ or a maximum truth-seeking AI that tries to understand the nature of the universe,” Mr. Musk said in an interview on Fox News Channel’s “Tucker Carlson Tonight” https://t.co/O5GyVTtAz2

— Shashank Joshi (@shashj) April 17, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 17 April 2023 23:41 (one year ago) link

gonna be two tomato cans connected by string.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 April 2023 23:43 (one year ago) link

The Key to All Mythologies

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 00:07 (one year ago) link

"be sure to drink your ovaltinedrive your model 3"

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 00:26 (one year ago) link

i fucking love science

holy shit this is real?? pic.twitter.com/Wu6ZhbdA2R

— 𝓡𝓲𝓭𝓮𝓼 𝓣𝓱𝓪𝓽’𝓵𝓵 𝓑𝓮𝓪𝓽 𝓨𝓸𝓾𝓻 𝓐𝓼𝓼 (@ass_beaters) April 17, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 00:49 (one year ago) link

all of those connected insurance things seem like an incredibly bad idea tbh

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 02:25 (one year ago) link

I'm sure Tesla is worse but Geico spying on me while I drive, no fucking thanks

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 02:25 (one year ago) link

god I thought the shit he said to Tucker was the most must've-been-high thing ever but now I'M high and it feels even dumber. ha ha ha yes lets teach the robots to love. the thing that can't distinguish between things that actually happened and things that only happened on the TV show M*A*S*H

frogbs, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 02:29 (one year ago) link

im in favor of teaching the robots to love that sounds interesting

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 02:31 (one year ago) link

I think he's just horny for Plankton's girlfriend from Sponchebob

frogbs, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 02:37 (one year ago) link

people joking that the rocket launch was delayed yesterday because Elon saw an opportunity to do it on 420

StanM, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 05:03 (one year ago) link

circling back on this

Just received verbal govt approval for The Boring Company to build an underground NY-Phil-Balt-DC Hyperloop. NY-DC in 29 mins.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 20, 2017

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 15:55 (one year ago) link

Who gets the Musk Face?

The Titus Andromedon Strain (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 16:05 (one year ago) link

circling back on this

🐦[Just received verbal govt approval for The Boring Company to build an underground NY-Phil-Balt-DC Hyperloop. NY-DC in 29 mins.
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 20, 2017🕸]🐦


How could anyone have taken this seriously? I thought it was bullshit at the time.

"The pudding incident?" (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 16:56 (one year ago) link

"username checks out"

, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 17:07 (one year ago) link

That's generally how the federal gov't works awards verbal contracts - they'll give you a thumbs-up which means "Go for it, you got this!" or a frowny headshake which means nope

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 17:28 (one year ago) link

username checks out

:D

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link

xp the old system led to a lot of confusion, which is why most modern agencies now conduct contract acquisition via a voice vote, with everyone working on the same floor as the cube where the formal bid was emailed getting a say in the decision during an optional meeting held during the lunch hour on fridays

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link

Starship: The Starship has cleared the tower! An amazing sight as the huge rocket climbs away atop 16 million lbs of thrust (!) generated by the Super Heavy first stage booster's 33 methane-burning Raptor engines

— William Harwood (@cbs_spacenews) April 20, 2023

Starship: Rocket appears to be spenning... and exploded 4 minutes and 2 seconds after launch

— William Harwood (@cbs_spacenews) April 20, 2023

frogbs, Thursday, 20 April 2023 13:46 (one year ago) link

lmao

pic.twitter.com/mK6AuDz91J

— Ivan the K™ (@IvanTheK) April 20, 2023

frogbs, Thursday, 20 April 2023 13:48 (one year ago) link

Good day for everyone to lose their checkmarks

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 20 April 2023 13:55 (one year ago) link

4 minutes and 2.0 seconds

mh, Thursday, 20 April 2023 13:59 (one year ago) link

"rapid unscheduled disassembly" incredible new heights in corporate speak

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:01 (one year ago) link

Xpost It got pretty high

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:01 (one year ago) link

BREAKING: SpaceX successfully launched its massive Starship rocket, the largest and most powerful rocket ever built. https://t.co/aGvDQnKXZA

— CBS News (@CBSNews) April 20, 2023

President Kennedy successfully visited Dallas

— Upton Earl Sinclair (@howiehandupme) April 20, 2023

frogbs, Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:05 (one year ago) link

(points, laughs)

Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:06 (one year ago) link

*very chris rock voice * ITS SPINNIN

I'm not a space guy, but the reporting on this seems extraordinarily deranged to me

NYT:
"The most powerful rocket ever built got off the launchpad in South Texas, but did not achieve its most ambitious goals on Thursday."

"However, SpaceX has a history of learning from mistakes. The company’s mantra is essentially, “Fail fast, but learn faster.”

Traditional aerospace companies have tried to anticipate and prevent as many failures as possible ahead of time. But that approach takes money and time and can lead to vehicles that are overdesigned. SpaceX instead is more like a Silicon Valley software company — starting with an imperfect product that can be improved quickly.

...

SpaceX, as one of the most valuable privately held companies, possesses a large financial cushion to absorb setbacks, unlike its early days when the first three launches of its original rocket, the small Falcon 1, failed to reach orbit. Mr. Musk scraped together just enough money and parts for a fourth launch attempt. Had it failed, SpaceX would have gone out of business.

It succeeded, and SpaceX has succeeded in almost all of its endeavors since then, even when it sometimes fails at first.

I know I should be cynical about this by now, but wtf

rob, Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:10 (one year ago) link

I did manage to get to the bathroom and I successfully defecated, but I didn't quite reach my most ambitious goal of taking down my trousers first.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:15 (one year ago) link

just a minor systems failure, but the method is spot on - nothing to see here!

calzino, Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:19 (one year ago) link

isn't SpaceX mostly funded by the federal government?

frogbs, Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:19 (one year ago) link

man imagine if SpaceX was the Challenger and Elon was also in charge then

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:33 (one year ago) link

"successful launch, just some minor sky detritus"

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:33 (one year ago) link

tons of Musk-ites complaining about the lack of nuance in the reporting on the 'explosion', when just about every article I've read expressed what happened pretty accurately and that this was always known as an expected outcome.

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:54 (one year ago) link

i was watching a live stream of this where the announcer went “there goes the future of humanity!”

then 2 minutes later it exploded in the sky https://t.co/66nL3ZdID5

— 🍄😮‍💨 (@CinemaMonsieur) April 20, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:57 (one year ago) link

i would simply design a rocket that was not expected to explode

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:57 (one year ago) link

announcer technically otm

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:58 (one year ago) link

lol. Musk is obv racist and transphobic and a piece of shit so I don't care to defend him but it's almost like this dude hasn't heard of "4/20" before

Musk always celebrates 4-20 with events,

"Coincidentally" it's is also Hitler's Birthday.https://t.co/zzTab39w3J

— Eric John Diesel (@EricJohnDiesel3) April 20, 2023

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link

it's hilarious that the new blowing up is "a rapid unscheduled disassembly"

calzino, Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:01 (one year ago) link

expressions that express gratified anticipation:

https://i.imgur.com/dYdAOAy.png

mark s, Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:05 (one year ago) link

happy bluecheck liberation day you pained motherfucker

mark s, Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:06 (one year ago) link

Eric John Diesel not an expert in the Sour Diesel.

This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:09 (one year ago) link

Dog has some thoughts:

i do not destroy my toys. they simply experience. a rapid unscheduled disassembly. this has nothing to do with me

— Thoughts of Dog® (@dog_feelings) April 20, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:13 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQZ-FbCMIrU
The RUDs • (You’re) In a RUD (You gotta get out of it - out of it - out of it - out of it - out of it)

This is Major Lon to Ground Control/I'm here forevermore/and I'm tweeting in my stupid normal way/and my bullshit's very typical toDAYYAYYAAY

Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:42 (one year ago) link

kinda shocked to learn that Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly is actually a preexisting term that somehow never went full-on viral. if it had been coined by some establishment grey man in the 60s, it'd be on the level of "we had to destroy this town in order to save it."

got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:46 (one year ago) link

THE ROCKET LAUNCH WAS A SUCCESS
PLEASE KINDLY IGNORE THE MESS
AMANDA

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:50 (one year ago) link

Like "terminate with extreme prejudice." (Which I have learned actually means to "use tons of careful judgment"). xp

Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:51 (one year ago) link

lol. Musk is obv racist and transphobic and a piece of shit so I don't care to defend him but it's almost like this dude hasn't heard of "4/20" before

Why give Musk even a whiff of the benefit of any doubt at this point though. Why *is* he so into 4/20 lolz?

Toploader on the road, unite and take over (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 20 April 2023 16:20 (one year ago) link

We're getting to orbit today 🚀 pic.twitter.com/xJ9v90QqK6

— 𝔊𝔯𝔦𝔪𝔢𝔰 (@Grimezsz) April 17, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 April 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link

oh shit was grimes on the rocket?

Her final art performance.

kinda shocked to learn that Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly is actually a preexisting term that somehow never went full-on viral. if it had been coined by some establishment grey man in the 60s, it'd be on the level of "we had to destroy this town in order to save it."

― got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Thursday, April 20, 2023

I heard it long ago (pre-SpaceX), and figured there was some humor behind it (even tech peeps have senses of humor).

nickn, Thursday, 20 April 2023 17:10 (one year ago) link

hah

he offers that too https://t.co/mkKy1HYHTF

— actioncookbook (@actioncookbook) April 20, 2023

frogbs, Thursday, 20 April 2023 17:38 (one year ago) link

Elon press conference post rocket blowup pic.twitter.com/c223i7VTxS

— Brendan James (@deep_beige) April 20, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 April 2023 18:49 (one year ago) link

bro I can't fucking imagine what I'd do if I was fighting for my life trying to squash a news story about me and my dad went to the press like "not only is it completely true, make sure you write up the part where my grown son was crying about his fancy bike" https://t.co/BpCS7H1o5z

— Takes Of Vesperia (@coolranchzaku) April 20, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 April 2023 22:20 (one year ago) link

A new Logan Roy has entered the arena.

This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Thursday, 20 April 2023 22:38 (one year ago) link

That emerald mine is burning up

A dramatic 24 hours for Elon Musk has slashed his fortune by almost $13 billion, his biggest wealth wipeout this year https://t.co/E4imsTZ28r

— Bloomberg Wealth (@wealth) April 20, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 April 2023 22:50 (one year ago) link

his biggest wealth wipeout this year

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 20 April 2023 23:15 (one year ago) link

Just think what he will achieve when he is truly hungry, both figuratively and literally.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 April 2023 23:26 (one year ago) link

i get that doing things *in* space is super difficult but we've been sending shit into orbit for 60 years now. why are these things constantly assploding

mookieproof, Thursday, 20 April 2023 23:27 (one year ago) link

I highly recommend John D Clark's book Ignition! for some insights as to how frickin difficult it is to make rockets, which are basically balancing a small skyscraper on a controlled explosion.
https://library.sciencemadness.org/library/books/ignition.pdf

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 20 April 2023 23:42 (one year ago) link

i could do it

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 April 2023 23:44 (one year ago) link

xxp because we've lost a ton of institutional knowledge about rocket science since the 60s, Elvis Telecom to thread

Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Thursday, 20 April 2023 23:45 (one year ago) link

sweet thanks matttt

mookieproof, Friday, 21 April 2023 00:28 (one year ago) link

mattkkkk thxxxx!

Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Friday, 21 April 2023 00:58 (one year ago) link

If your rockets aren't exploding, you're not failing fast enough... it's all about disrupting the paradigms...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 21 April 2023 01:00 (one year ago) link

The physics at that speed are pretty wild. An interesting book I read quite a few years ago was the biography of Ben Rich the guy behind the Skunkworks and Lockheeds development.

SR-71 metal panels had to be setup so that when it was on the ground they did not meet, as when it would get up to full speed the metal would expand out. The plane could literally leak fuel on the ground.

earlnash, Friday, 21 April 2023 01:07 (one year ago) link

In the Twitter fallout after the launch, a friend posted "I remember the space program from my youth. We were not blowing up that many rockets or platforms." and I had to point out - hfs yes we were. There's hours of earlylaunch failures all over YouTube. It's just that most of this happened before either of us were born. Tom Wolfe makes a mantra out of "our rockets always blow up" throughout The Right Stuff but once everything worked well enough, it's only later that (to take the Norman Mailer p.o.v.) NASA gets good enough to make the whole thing boring.

Hypersonic aerodynamics is nuts. Even nuttier when you're taking it on with pencil and paper seventy years ago. There's one famous story about the SR-71 pilot whose plane rapidly unscheduled its disassembly around him in flight - leaving him just falling in the air. Then there's Mike Adams in the X-15, and worse - Virgin Galactic's VSS Enterprise.

When I saw that some of the engines had conked out on launch (shades of the insane launch attempts of the N-1), I knew that things were about to get interesting. Undoubtedly, SpaceX will probably figure it out - they have to, because (deep breath) NASA's moon program is depending on it. I just wish they would launch out of Florida like everyone else does and stop fucking up South Padre Island.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 21 April 2023 14:17 (one year ago) link

I just wish they would launch out of Florida like everyone else does and stop fucking up South Padre Island.

this, an old friend lives there and she is PISSED

Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Friday, 21 April 2023 14:25 (one year ago) link

also please launch out of FL so I can attend live and point and laugh

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Friday, 21 April 2023 14:26 (one year ago) link

I'm pretty much for a complete stoppage and moratorium on all rocket-building, moon programs, etc, either by Musk or NASA or anyone else.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 21 April 2023 14:51 (one year ago) link

Until we figure out what the hell is going on

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 21 April 2023 15:04 (one year ago) link

Until the stars fall from the sky for you and I.

peace, man, Friday, 21 April 2023 15:41 (one year ago) link

If the moratorium could be global I'd endorse that. We're cluttering low-earth orbital paths and generating space junk at a breathtaking clip.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 21 April 2023 17:20 (one year ago) link

Yeah when I hear ppl talking about the massive contingency involved in exploding a small skyscraper into space I just think “sounds like a big fucking waste of time then tbh let’s stop doing it”

michel goindry (wins), Friday, 21 April 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link

There's a bunch of rocket launches in California that they don't even tell us about until they're done, spy satellites probably.. I remember a few years ago there's was this really weird cloud in the evening sky that everybody noticed, and the Feds were like 'don't worry about that, why don't you mind your own beeswax anyway'

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 21 April 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link

For the record, I just wanted to make a Doors joke. I don't actually agree that we should stop space exploration.

peace, man, Friday, 21 April 2023 19:25 (one year ago) link

is there anything more to be gained from shortv distance manned space flight? (actual question I don't know much about it)

I think bringing back lethal space viruses and infecting all of humanity might be the last true benefit

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 21 April 2023 19:56 (one year ago) link

We haven't touched the monolith yet.

nickn, Friday, 21 April 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link

that's what Elon calls his junk from what I heard

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 21 April 2023 20:18 (one year ago) link

Elon already touched the monolith, that's why he can see 5 years into the future

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 21 April 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link

Musk and his followers are so scientifically uncurious that they wouldn't touch the monolith at all, but just piss on it.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 22 April 2023 04:07 (one year ago) link

A hilarious way to troll them is to innocently ask "why is SpaceX's Starship designed without any crew escape mechanism or abort systems?" and try to untangle the cult-speak word salad they'll respond with.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 22 April 2023 04:10 (one year ago) link

lol sacrificing a minivan

Salute to redditor DonaldRudolpho for turning the r/spacex subreddit into a roiling mass of cope and seethe with these basic factual observations pic.twitter.com/C9PGQ5Cydl

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) April 22, 2023

lag∞n, Saturday, 22 April 2023 15:43 (one year ago) link

Speaking of John D Clark’s _Ignition!_, notice who blurbs the most recent printing

https://sheep.horse/2019/3/ignition_cover.jpg

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Saturday, 22 April 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link

I looked for a space-x thread but anyway:

The space agency is depending on Starship to land astronauts on the surface of the moon as part of its Artemis program. That first landing is tentatively scheduled for 2025, though 2026 or later is perhaps more likely.


Whole article is pretty wow

https://wapo.st/41xDRfY

Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Saturday, 22 April 2023 17:22 (one year ago) link

epic sir

The checkmark on the dril account has now been removed again, and then I think it was added for a minute, then removed again. It's like a Looney Tunes cartoon but one side is some shitposter on his laptop and the other side is the richest man on the planet in corporate HQ fuming

— Wild Geerters (@steinkobbe) April 22, 2023

lag∞n, Saturday, 22 April 2023 21:54 (one year ago) link

great success much data

BREAKING: The FAA had grounded the SpaceX Starship program pending a mishap investigation.

This will most likely take many months to complete and require an extensive remediation plan before being allowed to launch again.

— Christopher David (@Tazerface16) April 24, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 24 April 2023 21:39 (one year ago) link

This is what happens to your launchpad when you think it would be funny to launch to the world's largest rocket on 4/20, instead of when it's ready.

It will probably be at least a year before the FAA will approve another Starship launch. pic.twitter.com/tXytW309a6

— Christopher David (@Tazerface16) April 21, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 24 April 2023 21:42 (one year ago) link

Pshh. Guess the FAA is gonna be losing its checkmark... we'll see who cancels who, woke safety regulators..

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Monday, 24 April 2023 21:44 (one year ago) link

The failure of the SpaceX launch yesterday can be directly linked to a personal decision that Elon Musk made 3 years ago to not install flame diverters on the Starship launchpad.

He overruled his own engineers on this design flaw, and admitted publicly.

It's his fault.

— Christopher David (@Tazerface16) April 21, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 24 April 2023 21:45 (one year ago) link

And because of this decision, the launchpad was blasted apart and debris slammed into the engines at the bottom of the booster, damaging them.

Ultimately resulting in the spectacular cartwheels and explosion that we saw just moments later.

— Christopher David (@Tazerface16) April 21, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 24 April 2023 21:46 (one year ago) link

and yet there are hundreds of weird nerds absolutely fuming into their keyboards all day today about how we're all just too stupid to appreciate his genius

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 24 April 2023 21:53 (one year ago) link

extremely low qual religion

lag∞n, Monday, 24 April 2023 21:54 (one year ago) link

elons sock

omg I found his burner https://t.co/xDHDt2X1VV pic.twitter.com/qlfzw2DjrL

— Hurt CoPain (@SaeedDiCaprio) April 24, 2023

It’s definitely him pic.twitter.com/PGqoucEyo1

— The Flying Morgan Wallendas (@BlastArrow4) April 24, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 00:55 (one year ago) link

Musk responding to himself with an alt account pic.twitter.com/IgXHZttZbz

— Matt Novak (@paleofuture) April 25, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 00:58 (one year ago) link

I think that's actually the cringiest thing he's done yet

frogbs, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 02:38 (one year ago) link

Hope someone’s on the blower to child protection services

michel goindry (wins), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 08:23 (one year ago) link

wait, if that's elon why is he paying attention to his child

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 13:46 (one year ago) link

imagine Lion King if Rafiki got so distracted he dropped Simba over the cliff

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 14:01 (one year ago) link

was it steve jobs who created this poisonous concept of the innovator as an individual with no actual tech knowledge but who makes big, bold decisions and demands unrealistic time frames etc etc? i mean that's what musk is obviously shooting for and failing dramatically, right?

na (NA), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 15:32 (one year ago) link

neil breen perfected it

z_tbd, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 15:35 (one year ago) link

Jobs was just making phones and computers though, not things that explode or crash

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 15:35 (one year ago) link

The failure of the SpaceX launch yesterday can be directly linked to a personal decision that Elon Musk made 3 years ago to not install flame diverters on the Starship launchpad.

He overruled his own engineers on this design flaw, and admitted publicly.

It's his fault.

— Christopher David (@Tazerface16) April 21, 2023

why is he so brainless

treeship., Tuesday, 25 April 2023 15:38 (one year ago) link

feel like the business guy who dares to demand more has to go back before steve job, and tbf it kind of works but its a dangerous game, has prob killed more businesses than its made but you dont hear about them

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 15:40 (one year ago) link

elizabeth holmes vibes

treeship., Tuesday, 25 April 2023 15:41 (one year ago) link

the thing about steve jobs is he actually was a great product guy, and obvs a great salesman too, which are real skills, a little different than some over confident dumbass just being all you have half the time to do twice the work

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 15:42 (one year ago) link

like musk does the same shit but has no feel for product and hes also unserious about doing quality work

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 15:42 (one year ago) link

exactly - that's what they're all aiming for and no one else can really do it

na (NA), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 15:45 (one year ago) link

good time to mention I was actually in a Tesla last week and while the car was impressive in terms of pure horsepower (it was so fast it made me want to throw up, actually) it also had some remarkably stupid design "features" like putting the gear shifter and wiper blade controls on the touchscreen and the turn signals on the steering wheel. the guy who bought it said even after a year he still isn't used to how counterintuitive that is. Steve Jobs I think at least understood the psychology of things that work like you expect them to

frogbs, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 15:46 (one year ago) link

most companies that make great products arent lead by charismatic visionaries theyre just good companies but thats not as interesting to weird wannabe business guys

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link

i think what i'm trying to say is that musk (and holmes and a bunch of others) learned the wrong lesson from jobs which is that you just have to be INTUITIVE and INNOVATIVE and DEMAND NOTHING LESS THAN PERFECTION and that you don't really have to know anything technical or practical or listen to anyone with actual technical/practical knowledge

na (NA), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link

the whole thing with electric cars being extremely fast and heavy is not great its unsafe

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link

free speech

Somebody at Twitter decided to delete my tweet about the FAA grounding of the Starship program.

I didn't.

Most likely Elon.

— Christopher David (@Tazerface16) April 26, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 02:15 (eleven months ago) link

Good morning, Elon Musk has been ordered to give a deposition in a trial because Tesla has been claiming that his (many) public statements about Autopilot's capabilities might have been deepfaked.

Seriously.https://t.co/iVmwaj5HFa pic.twitter.com/r1sTqBqZ1L

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) April 27, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 April 2023 13:48 (eleven months ago) link

You don't have to be a sociopath to be a billionaire, but it helps.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 13:50 (eleven months ago) link

lmao I had a feeling he would be the first to try to use that defense

frogbs, Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:05 (eleven months ago) link

lol thats such weak shit they could have been deepfakes well were they

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:15 (eleven months ago) link

tbf r kelly did it first i mean it was before deepfakes but same diff and it worked despite be preposterous

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:16 (eleven months ago) link

I could tell you, but how would you know "my" telling you wasn't also a deepfake?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:17 (eleven months ago) link

what's even more despairing is the typical Elon nerds jumping into threads about this with constant tweets saying, "what? are you alleging that it is impossible for Elon to be deepfaked?"

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 27 April 2023 16:51 (eleven months ago) link

Elon Musk is more of a shallowfake, amirite?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 April 2023 18:37 (eleven months ago) link

a snowfake

scanner darkly, Thursday, 27 April 2023 19:10 (eleven months ago) link

You don't have to be a sociopath to be a billionaire, but it helps.

actually you do, by definition.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:20 (eleven months ago) link

Being a billionaire must be insane. You can buy new teeth, new skin. All your chairs cost 20,000 dollars and weigh 2,000 pounds. Your life is just a series of your own preferences. In terms of cognitive impairment it's probably like being kicked in the head by a horse every day

— Thing Bad (@Merman_Melville) January 24, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:29 (eleven months ago) link

idk if you have to be a sociopath but you prob have to be a least a lil socipathish

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:36 (eleven months ago) link

I do think you have to have at least some level of disregard for most other people on the planet.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:41 (eleven months ago) link

I do think you have to have at least some level of disregard for most other people on the planet.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:41 (eleven months ago) link

Sorry for the double post

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:41 (eleven months ago) link

the money/success/power tends to amplify those tendencies too, which is why billionaires shouldnt exist, for the good of their mental health

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:42 (eleven months ago) link

unfortunately money starts to pump up sociopath tendencies at like a vacation home level of wealth lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:44 (eleven months ago) link

Do we want to wager if/how much he’ll lie on the witness stand or in desposition?

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 27 April 2023 23:02 (eleven months ago) link

There are something like 450 billionaires in America alone. The ones we can name I assume are among the worst, but I really have no idea how many I could name. Some of them are sociopaths like Musk, some of them are, like, Springsteen or something.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 April 2023 00:38 (eleven months ago) link

ok

lag∞n, Friday, 28 April 2023 00:44 (eleven months ago) link

Springsteen is definitely a sociopath

Enumerated funks of Walsh, Joe. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 28 April 2023 00:46 (eleven months ago) link

It was the title of his second album

Vinnie, Friday, 28 April 2023 00:48 (eleven months ago) link

The Wild, the Innocent, and the E Street Sociopath.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 April 2023 00:48 (eleven months ago) link

he stopped eating dinner to delay his aging

Enumerated funks of Walsh, Joe. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 28 April 2023 00:51 (eleven months ago) link

he wears bolo ties

Enumerated funks of Walsh, Joe. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 28 April 2023 00:52 (eleven months ago) link

almost a Musk

Enumerated funks of Walsh, Joe. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 28 April 2023 00:52 (eleven months ago) link

cannot believe i had to FP you all for the Springsteen-Musk comparison

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 28 April 2023 01:07 (eleven months ago) link

they're the same guy

Clay, Friday, 28 April 2023 01:14 (eleven months ago) link

the e in e street band stands for elon

lag∞n, Friday, 28 April 2023 01:15 (eleven months ago) link

It's OK I checked and Bruce's net worth is variously estimated at $650-$700 million. He doesn't even have ONE billion, much less multiple billions. Still just a blue-collar guy.

Basically he is exponentially closer to all of us in net worth than he is to Musk.

i mean ive got like $400m but with inflation whats that even worth these days

lag∞n, Friday, 28 April 2023 01:18 (eleven months ago) link

Not what it used to be I tell you what

Springsteen stopped doing an equal split of concert revenue, now he really is The Boss

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 28 April 2023 01:23 (eleven months ago) link

Hey little dolly with the blue check on

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 28 April 2023 01:44 (eleven months ago) link

What a desperate dipshit:

Elon Musk sent an email earlier tonight to Twitter employees encouraging them to subscribe to creators on the platform and then expense those costs back to the company.

— Ryan Mac 🙃 (@RMac18) April 29, 2023

Apparently he was also on Bill Maher's show last night talking about "the woke mind virus".

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 29 April 2023 14:25 (eleven months ago) link

i'm starting to think the woke mind is a virus. the word woke used to mean something positive and now it gradually evolved into something representing ignorant reactionary fear that is working its way through the minds of millions of people who never would have touched the word in its form from just a few years ago

z_tbd, Saturday, 29 April 2023 15:29 (eleven months ago) link

Lol seems like a ponzi scheme

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 30 April 2023 19:23 (eleven months ago) link

(Xp)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 30 April 2023 19:24 (eleven months ago) link

Why doesn't Elon just pay those "creators" directly? That would be the least stupid thing he's done yet.

Biden: Not everybody loves NPR. Elon Musk tweeted that it should be defunded. The best way to make NPR go away is for Elon Musk to buy it pic.twitter.com/qw6iRwxFZF

— Acyn (@Acyn) April 30, 2023

man if even Biden is dunking on you

frogbs, Sunday, 30 April 2023 22:45 (eleven months ago) link

omg

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 30 April 2023 23:10 (eleven months ago) link

dunking on a clueless non-competent billionaire worked with obama/trump i can see why he wants this battle

Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Monday, 1 May 2023 01:39 (eleven months ago) link

Elon can't run for President, it's fine.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 1 May 2023 01:52 (eleven months ago) link

x42jksjigha Musk can run for President in 33 years though

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 1 May 2023 01:52 (eleven months ago) link

on Mars

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 May 2023 01:59 (eleven months ago) link

Great to meet @elonmusk at the Miami GP and discuss our mutual efforts to combat online abuse. pic.twitter.com/W9gGQuwzox

— Mohammed Ben Sulayem (@Ben_Sulayem) May 7, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 17:55 (eleven months ago) link

Tesla Cybertruck (ed. 1 of 1) and infamous owner got stuck and had to get towed by Ford F350 diesel dually:

https://i.imgur.com/N0HozI8.jpg

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 02:26 (eleven months ago) link

lmao if you have images off and read the post, thought "hmmm I wonder what it got stuck in", and then clicked the image

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 02:32 (eleven months ago) link

idgi

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 11 May 2023 22:39 (eleven months ago) link

it appears to be "Stuck" on a normal stretch of road surface

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 11 May 2023 23:56 (eleven months ago) link

Se viraliza video del Elon Musk, pasándosela de lo mejor en un antro en México. El empresario mexicano Guillermo Salinas, aseguró que Musk, es muy platicador, bailador y accesible, ambos visitaron Los Cabos, y compartieron en la fiesta “Sundream”. pic.twitter.com/1aOw6MNf2y

— José Luis Morales (@JLMNoticias) May 15, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 15 May 2023 17:12 (eleven months ago) link

🙌

ꙮ (map), Monday, 15 May 2023 17:30 (eleven months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/52Lz1Cx.png

frogbs, Monday, 15 May 2023 17:31 (eleven months ago) link

Musk seems to have mastered the diaper dance, familiar to all parents of small children.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 May 2023 17:51 (eleven months ago) link

aren't Diaper Dance those dudes at disney who sing on bicycles

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Monday, 15 May 2023 17:57 (eleven months ago) link

https://princesongs.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/04/iwd4u.jpg

"I would ... diaper ... you ..."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 May 2023 18:04 (eleven months ago) link

LOL!

dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Monday, 15 May 2023 19:55 (eleven months ago) link

Shocked to see this from an apartheid fascist who's scrambled to reinstate every Nazi suspended from this website: pic.twitter.com/hRTb2iQ9wk

— Eli Valley (@elivalley) May 16, 2023

sounds like someone's thinking about going Death Con 2

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 03:47 (eleven months ago) link

that thread is filled with 4chan-esque memes that appear to be ai-generated.

formerly abanana (dat), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 12:01 (eleven months ago) link

the horrible future of the internet, everybody

got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 13:09 (eleven months ago) link

It's going to be sad when AIs take over all the white supremacist jobs.

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 13:47 (eleven months ago) link

lol perfect application

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 14:09 (eleven months ago) link

yikes this interview

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 23:17 (eleven months ago) link

The strongest commitment to disaster posting I’ve ever seen, and from the world’s worst poster pic.twitter.com/dZOhWEXGXI

— Eoin Higgins (@EoinHiggins_) May 16, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 23:27 (eleven months ago) link

Is he on edibles?
Sounds like dorm room philosophy

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 23:35 (eleven months ago) link

When you're one of the world's wealthiest people being simple-minded is the path of least resistance. There are no consequences worth his worrying about because he has the money to deflect, defer, or buy his way out all of them.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 23:46 (eleven months ago) link

The rest of the interview was nazi shit

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 23:49 (eleven months ago) link

he thinks the TX mall shooter was a psyop, very cool

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 23:50 (eleven months ago) link

It's amazing how quickly someone can propel from 'person I'm generally unaware of on any meaningful level' to 'person I want to choke on their dinner while eating alone, tonight if possible' when they really put their nose to the shit-ass grindstone

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 01:52 (eleven months ago) link

This guy is the stupidest fucking person I’ve ever seen.

treeship., Wednesday, 17 May 2023 01:55 (eleven months ago) link

"great movie by the way"

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 02:58 (eleven months ago) link

I mean I've known some dumb guys before but generally nobody cares what those people think. It's like the Neil Breen thing where you're not sure if he's just uniquely strange or if you actually know several dudes who, if forced to make a movie all by themselves, would probably crank out something like that

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 03:01 (eleven months ago) link

I retract my previous claim, the man was not bottoming out earlier and apparently has no actual bottom (not referring to his gluteus maximus).

ok it's bad enough he's invoking the "I can't be racist, I have a [insert race] friend" trope, but what makes this truly batshit insane is the "friend" he's invoking is *Jeffrey Epstein* pic.twitter.com/yl16i72b6W

— dangit, kyle (@dangit_kyle) May 17, 2023

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 04:49 (eleven months ago) link

Billionaires don't have a rock bottom. Even the Minecraft creep who was disappeared by Microsoft still gets to go for a morning dip in his Scrooge McDuck vault before heading online to say racist shit.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 04:59 (eleven months ago) link

The rest of the interview was nazi shit

I didn't see any of it except what was excerpted and shared on Tiwtter but I found it maddening that when he was claiming the Texas shooter being a Nazi thing was a psy-op and smearing Bellingcat that the interviewer didn't seem able to respond with any real firmness. Maybe he did that later. I kind of feel you need to set your sharpest, most forensic and bold interviewers to tackle someone like this, to set Elon's mental jello in sharper relief

dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 08:38 (eleven months ago) link

Right wingers are mad that the Tennessee shooter’s manifesto wasn’t released because his motive had to do with lgbtq rights. There is no evidence for this except the fact that the shooter was trans but ok.

Their response is to throw a fit that the texas shooter’s motives were disclosed because they think it’s hypocrisy. “Why do our shooters get treated worse than theirs?” That’s how they think. And now the tantrum is getting into Alex Jones/Sandy Hook territory with this idea it was a psyop or at least his ideology is.

treeship., Wednesday, 17 May 2023 12:11 (eleven months ago) link

*because they think* his motive had to do with lgbtq rights. As I pointed out, that has not been established.

The whole thing is exhausting because this horrible epidemic of gun violence has become a political football. It’s the right who are driving that fact by the way.9

treeship., Wednesday, 17 May 2023 12:13 (eleven months ago) link

here we go.. Elon lecturing us on morality:

"I think that the whole notion of work from home is a bit like the fake Marie Antoinette quote, ‘Let them eat cake,’” Musk, the second-richest man in the world, said.

“It’s a productivity issue but it’s also a moral issue,” Musk replied. “People should get off the goddamn moral high horse with the work-from-home bulls—t, because they’re asking everyone else to not work from home while they do. It’s wrong.”

A few seconds later, Musk said, “The laptop class is living in la-la land, OK. As I said, are people working from home here? Of course not. … It’s not just a productivity thing. I think it’s morally wrong.”

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 19:29 (eleven months ago) link

This asshole acts like everything he learned about business and management he got from some shitty over the top TV show.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 19:38 (eleven months ago) link

I trust him, he is definitely an expert on morally wrong things

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 19:41 (eleven months ago) link

it's like blaming these damn new electric cars on the end of good-paying gas station jobs

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 19:48 (eleven months ago) link

As I said, are people working from home here? Of course not. … It’s not just a productivity thing. I think it’s morally wrong.

Well, there was that Toobin thing.

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 19:56 (eleven months ago) link

The broke-brain association of "work" with "moral good" is so strong in the management/owner class. I got in argument with some conservatives about it online a while back, they were insisting that there is something inherently ennobling about work. I was like, have you ever actually had a job? That kind of rhetoric is so far removed from so many people's experience of the workplace, which is dehumanizing and degrading.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 20:02 (eleven months ago) link

xp - whoa, hey now, seemed like he was about to work pretty intensely on something

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 20:03 (eleven months ago) link

Why would a guy who runs a car company not want you to commute to work?

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 20:17 (eleven months ago) link

Why would the owner of Twitter not want you to spend half your day tweeting?

nashwan, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 20:22 (eleven months ago) link

his point seems to be that the laptop class needs the working class to go to work (or deliver them stuff) so they can work from home?

classic "i, a billionaire who commutes by private jet, am a real american, the true avatar of the people, unlike you, the person who lives in a city" stuff.

btw it's only immoral to ask people to go to work so you can WFH if you agree that WFH is better.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 21:17 (eleven months ago) link

obviously there are tons of inequalities between white collar and blue collar work but i fail to see how which room you go to to sit in front of a computer all day matters at all.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 21:24 (eleven months ago) link

He's even worse at fake populism than the Josh Hawleys of the world

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 21:31 (eleven months ago) link

As with a lot of things, it seems like he's reacting mostly to the discourse and against people he perceives as his enemies rather than assessing the issue on its merits.

jaymc, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 21:34 (eleven months ago) link

i fail to see how which room you go to to sit in front of a computer all day matters at all

that was the point I was clumsily trying to make with my electric car comment - technology changes, and new options become available. In the past 'work at home' probably leaned more blue collar - thinking woodworkers, daycare providers, gunsmiths, etc... it's only the last few years with VPN, Zoom, and shit that allowed a broad swath of white collar/tech folks the option

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 22:15 (eleven months ago) link

He’s a capitalist who wants to dictate the terms that workers work. At this point in history knowledge workers have the upper hand and he mad.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 23:16 (eleven months ago) link

he also might be bummed about having a big giant empty building on Market Street, since he laid everybody off... no new subordinates to impregnate

'Where is everybody?'

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 23:34 (eleven months ago) link

the guy I know who worked at one of the non-twitter Musk ventures quit when he revoked WFH so *shrug*

mh, Thursday, 18 May 2023 00:09 (eleven months ago) link

the only guy i know who's still at twitter lives in semi-rural michigan 🤷🏻‍♂️

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 18 May 2023 00:18 (eleven months ago) link

xp Barbers and hairdressers were often work-from-home as well, as was laundry work. Sweatshop piecework was often work-from-home as well.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 18 May 2023 00:28 (eleven months ago) link

xp Please let him be Unabomber 2 and blow up Musk

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 18 May 2023 00:28 (eleven months ago) link

If the techserfs don't have to drive to the office, they don't have to buy Elon's shitty cars to get there.

earlnash, Thursday, 18 May 2023 00:29 (eleven months ago) link

Its not like the dude workin' 32 1/2 hours a week at Krogers or Piggly Wiggly is buying his crappy cards.

Considering how cheap a$$ these billionares come off, they must pay their help ok as they should just bludgeon them to death or set them on fire when they go to sleep. Maybe that is why the guy works like 20 hours a day... I guess that is why some are trying to come up with obedience collars for their bunker workers.

earlnash, Thursday, 18 May 2023 00:32 (eleven months ago) link

probably not great that Elon's entire worldview can be reduced to "arbeit macht frei"

frogbs, Thursday, 18 May 2023 13:23 (eleven months ago) link

How do you say that in Afrikaans? Probably about the same, I'd guess...

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 18 May 2023 14:06 (eleven months ago) link

As John Ganz has pointed out, there's a word in Afrikaans-- baaskap, which roughly translates to "bossism". It's an explicitly Apartheid ideology that also imlies "white people on top, white bosses on top of white people".

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 18 May 2023 16:38 (eleven months ago) link

Always wondered if he hired a voice/accent coach - he always seems to be speaking very carefully so he comes off as your typical Cali tech brah and not a South African mine owner

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 18 May 2023 16:57 (eleven months ago) link

probably mostly organic. a few coworkers moved to the midwest from countries with distinctive accents around the same age Musk did and there's an entire spectrum of merged accents, some that sound local with a slightly noticeable inflection on some words, others with a more noticeable tone

mh, Thursday, 18 May 2023 17:40 (eleven months ago) link

I don't know how many lawsuits he's up to now, but this one has some good details about all the bonkers shit with their leases and unlicensed renovations.

Six former Twitter execs and longtime employees sued Twitter and Elon Musk in US district court in Delaware on Tues, alleging they violated severance agreements. The lawsuit seems to corroborate much of our & others' reporting about the co not paying billshttps://t.co/dEkOJws1o5 pic.twitter.com/UqvHez4kHk

— Ryan Mac 🙃 (@RMac18) May 18, 2023

This, just for example:

253. Killian was soon instructed to circumvent the landlord's lighting control system, which was motion- sensitive in compliance with California's Title 24 energy code, because the lights were bothering people living in the hotel rooms when their small movements at night would trigger the lights.
254. Killian submitted the service requests to the landlord, who denied them,
255. When the landlord denied Twitter's requests, Killian was instructed to disconnect the lighting himself, which was not safe and which he was not qualified to do.
256. When he objected, Hollander berated him for refusing to do the work himself.
257. She was not satisfied until he brought her in and had her look into the drop-ceiling and see what the electrical system looked like, to understand that he could not safely do the work himself
258. Caught between a rock and a hard place, Killian hired an electrician to disconnect these rooms independently, putting Twitter in violation of both the building code and their lease.
259. It got worse.
260 Killian was instructed to install space heaters in the hotel rooms in further violation of Twitter's lease.
261. Killian was also instructed to place locks on the hotel room doors, a request that betrayed the lie that these were intended to be temporary rest spaces for exhausted Tweeps.
262. California code requires locks that automatically disengage when the building's fire suppression systems are triggered.
263. Killian was repeatedly told that compliant locks were too expensive and instructed to immediately install cheaper locks that were not compliant with life safety and egress codes.
264. Again, Killian protested that no licensed tradesperson would perform work that violated the building code.
265. Killian protested that installing these locks would put lives at risk that in case of an earthquake or fire (the latter of which was made dramatically more likely by the noncompliant electrical work and the presence of the space heaters he had been instructed to install), these locks would remain locked, blocking first responders from being able to access the rooms and the Tweeps within.
266. Nobody cared.
267. On information and belief, the non-compliant locks were in fact eventually installed but not by Killian.
268. Killian quit that day.

Slumlord Billionaire

dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Thursday, 18 May 2023 20:01 (eleven months ago) link

couldn’t they just put “do not disturb” signs on the “hotel” doors or was Elon just busting in like the Kool-Aid man and they needed locks to keep him out?

mh, Friday, 19 May 2023 00:48 (eleven months ago) link

Yeah, that whole section is fucking wild

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 19 May 2023 00:51 (eleven months ago) link

I love this:

266. Nobody cared.

It's the "Jesus wept" of Elon court filings.

Needs an Elon crying/laughing pic

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 19 May 2023 14:18 (eleven months ago) link

why are bro’s opinions about working from home being reported on like important news? :-(

brimstead, Friday, 19 May 2023 19:19 (eleven months ago) link

I thought Elon was sleeping in a closet at Twitter headquarters, doesn't that mean he is working from home? So he is a total hypocrite who should put his head in a toilet and let people take turns flushing it (just like old times, no doubt).

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 May 2023 19:32 (eleven months ago) link

why are bro’s opinions about working from home being reported on like important news? :-(

the only opinions being reported are about the loss of 'water cooler synergy' and 'team building', we never hear the 'well, our employees enjoy living in rural montana and not driving every morning, getting more sleep, spending more time with their families and pets, not polluting by commuting, saving money on lunch, crapping in their own bathrooms etc etc etc"

Feels like a vast conspiracy to pull us back into the rat race

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 19 May 2023 20:29 (eleven months ago) link

Feels like a vast conspiracy to pull us back into the rat race

Yes it's about control.

octobeard, Friday, 19 May 2023 22:03 (eleven months ago) link

Someone has pointed out that not only can Twitter Blue subscribers now post files up to 8GB, there's no limit on how many they can post, making Twitter effectively a piracy machine (people are posting whole movies left, right and center) and an unlimited storage service for just $8 a month. There's no way this lasts.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:53 (eleven months ago) link

someone posted shrek in its entirety a day or so ago. total mess.

Fizzles, Saturday, 20 May 2023 19:00 (eleven months ago) link

never cared for it much either.

ꙮ (map), Saturday, 20 May 2023 19:13 (eleven months ago) link

how the... how is that in any biz model, it's so dumb? do i not understand it?

Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Saturday, 20 May 2023 22:24 (eleven months ago) link

I mean, he's not running it like a business. I don't know what he's running it like. Like he hates Twitter and the people who use it. Seems pathological.

I think Elon genuinely wants to make it a right wing social media site like Parler or Truth but popular. Of course, by making it explicitly RW (and being a fascist anti-Semite who wants to be King of Mars) he will drive away the people (and with them the advertisers) that made Twitter actually fun and popular and thus just turn into Gab.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 20 May 2023 23:44 (eleven months ago) link

I think he's mostly throwing a tantrum because it became painfully obvious that he's not universally loved and respected.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 20 May 2023 23:53 (eleven months ago) link

Like, if he was so upset about “free speech” why didn’t he just fuck off to Parler or Truth? Because there’s no one there to torment. Everyone thinks the same. No fun!

Because he’s an idiot, he thought for some reason he could keep all the “woke” users at Twitter and keep respectable advertisers while letting the Nazis run amok. They wanted playthings.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 20 May 2023 23:54 (eleven months ago) link

Feels like a vast conspiracy to pull us back into the rat race

Yes it's about control.

OT but I think there is also an element of, if people aren’t commuting, they won’t care so much about gas prices, making our elections harder for OPEC to manipulate.

epistantophus, Sunday, 21 May 2023 01:56 (eleven months ago) link

So it’s about control?

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 21 May 2023 03:15 (eleven months ago) link

It's about control. Through dominance.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 21 May 2023 03:18 (eleven months ago) link

I was wondering since Twitter was a tool in the Arab Spring that the Saudi money backing Musk was just as much to buy it and kill it as anything. Don't exactly quite get why the oil sheiks would want in business with the battery car guy, but between Musky's hugging up to them and the Russians it sure seems that way.

earlnash, Sunday, 21 May 2023 14:45 (eleven months ago) link

Feels like a vast conspiracy to pull us back into the rat race

See also: the monthly articles from NYT about how people want to go back into the office… which only quotes managers/supervisors/CEOs. One of the few times I read the comments, since they are almost exclusively people disputing the articles’ premise and giving it the finger.

blatherskite, Sunday, 21 May 2023 16:40 (eleven months ago) link

Bosses are panicking that white collar labor in the US, for a brief shining moment in this post-union age, has some leverage.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 21 May 2023 16:47 (eleven months ago) link

More than a little of the forcing people back into the office thing seems like it has a lot to do with trying to justify the expensive office rental contracts and business leasing agreements, doesn’t it?

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 21 May 2023 17:35 (eleven months ago) link

Which is especially weird in Musk’s case since he apparently refuses to pay rent for office space. You’d think he’d want people to work from home — it’s basically outsourcing real estate costs to the employees.

also, MASSIVE IGNORANT GENERALIZATION ALERT, a lot of managers don’t do shit except big their employees and talk loudly and now they don’t have anything to do

brimstead, Sunday, 21 May 2023 18:01 (eleven months ago) link

bug not big

I think every single one of my posts in the past week has had a typo

brimstead, Sunday, 21 May 2023 18:01 (eleven months ago) link

Working from home has been a big issue for cities that have large office building infrastructure and the businesses that depended on the lunch trade. Property tax revenues from office buildings had been a mainstay for DC and adjacent jurisdictions (office buildings bring in more tax revenue than cities spend in revenue to service their infrastructure). In this area, despite our best efforts at creating mixed use neighborhoods, we have some areas that are office canyons that in pre-pandemic times kind of rolled up those sidewalks at 5 pm. Businesses that depended on errands by office workers or lunch have suffered, not to mention the tax revenue such businesses raise have declined.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 21 May 2023 18:33 (eleven months ago) link

Objectively yr correct but the problem is that these facts are being used to justify the continued ennobling of all of the worst parts of work in late capitalism rather than, yknow, trying to figure out new ways of organizing society that would be more humane and ecologically sound.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Sunday, 21 May 2023 19:34 (eleven months ago) link

If you let workers work from home but then you replace the worker with AI, can you make the AI work in the office?

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Sunday, 21 May 2023 19:35 (eleven months ago) link

XP I agree, table. One part of the solution will be for city planners and leaders to encourage the conversion of office buildings to much needed housing.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 21 May 2023 20:15 (eleven months ago) link

Apparently it is often prohibitively expensive to convert office to residential because of the different plumbing needs of the two uses and how they are normally addressed.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Sunday, 21 May 2023 21:07 (eleven months ago) link

That’s true too. Apparently 1960s-70s buildings are easier to convert cause they have smaller floor plates. Our community has done a couple. The fact that office and residential buildings have very different Building codes (much more stringent regulations, understandably, for places where people sleep) make it harder to convert in some cases

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 21 May 2023 22:18 (eleven months ago) link

Y’all are using talking points from the real estate industry.

Such conversions are expensive but can work and significantly revitalize parts of cities— the residential population of downtown Philly between 2000 and 2020 went up 54% as a result of office to residential conversions. The industry is holding out on office work coming back (it’s not) or on getting sweetheart tax abatements (like the one in place in Philly) to do the conversions. There are obvious problems with the abatements, duh, but the housing crisis perhaps justifies swallowing a nasty pill. If done ethically and with safeguards in place, it can work.

All that said, conversions wouldn’t add a significant number of units in most places.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Sunday, 21 May 2023 22:25 (eleven months ago) link

Hey Elon tried to add much needed residential units inside the Twitter offices but the landlord and the city were all like “lease violation” and “fire trap” and “people may die.” Small-minded bureaucrats.

Well DC is starting to try tax abatements, so would be interesting to see the results.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 22 May 2023 01:02 (eleven months ago) link

older office buildings, despite plumbing etc, are likely easier code-wise due to the fact we made use-specific housing codes that let builders de-emphasize good general use building practices

or, as my architect friend used to lecture me (he’s moved from pure architecture to structural concerns), architects leave too much to engineering and don’t bother to work beyond the recommended minimums in code, despite whether they’d actually be the best in the building

honestly the same goes in software but idk that’s also why I moved to infrastructure

mh, Monday, 22 May 2023 02:37 (eleven months ago) link

I think Elon genuinely wants to make it a right wing social media site like Parler or Truth but popular. Of course, by making it explicitly RW (and being a fascist anti-Semite who wants to be King of Mars) he will drive away the people (and with them the advertisers) that made Twitter actually fun and popular and thus just turn into Gab.

― Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 20 May 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Don't think he can make twitter "explicitly RW", the guy cannot execute a plan.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 22 May 2023 09:20 (eleven months ago) link

i do think blue tick prioritisation leans heavily towards it though. you have to wade through a garbage fire of blue tick answers to any particular thread to get any sort of through line of discussion.

i’ve always been fairly relaxed about it. it’s a commercial site, and you can more or less get what you want out of it. but in the last few weeks i’ve noticed it becoming unusable, in terms of how i use it anyway - defaulting to “for you” is an absurd piece of friction to introduce. and generally as an information aggregator it’s becoming epistemically extremely degraded imv.

however, i do think a lot depends on how you use it. a lot of the issues that have driven others away were invisible to me.

Fizzles, Monday, 22 May 2023 10:23 (eleven months ago) link

My twitter mostly goes to "following".

"i do think blue tick prioritisation leans heavily towards it though. you have to wade through a garbage fire of blue tick answers to any particular thread to get any sort of through line of discussion."

I don't know if answers to a popular thread have ever yielded much, but yes you see the blue ticks mostly first in line, but some are more 'liberal' sounding people.

I think if I were to join now it might be harder to find good people. Because I have already built a good list it's still ok at the moment. As it hasn't gone in a puff of smoke I reckon death will be slow.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 22 May 2023 10:51 (eleven months ago) link

I don't know if answers to a popular thread have ever yielded much, but yes you see the blue ticks mostly first in line, but some are more 'liberal' sounding people.

Doesn't matter. If they've paid for a blue check, they're idiots and marks. Block or mute anyone who has one.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 22 May 2023 13:28 (eleven months ago) link

Don't really care to block or mute anyone. I'm a grown-up.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 22 May 2023 13:44 (eleven months ago) link

then you should pay 8 dollars. You can afford it pops.

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 22 May 2023 13:56 (eleven months ago) link

the grown ups in the room social media site.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 22 May 2023 14:19 (eleven months ago) link

We exist #grownUps

xyzzzz__, Monday, 22 May 2023 14:37 (eleven months ago) link

grow up

— b-boy bouiebaisse (@jbouie) May 22, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 22 May 2023 14:41 (eleven months ago) link

I hid in the clouded warmth of the crowd
But when they said, "Come down" I threw up
Ooh, growin' up

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 22 May 2023 15:00 (eleven months ago) link

--Elon Musk

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 22 May 2023 15:00 (eleven months ago) link

the space degrades. and people whose voice you might value don’t feel comfortable posting - because RW libertarian voices are given precedence, because the moderation, poor as it was, is explicitly and deliberately worse, because the experience is *bad*.

lol ganz can give as good as he gets but yes, another one bites the dust.

Fizzles, Monday, 22 May 2023 16:37 (eleven months ago) link

Fizzles otm in both his posts. This isn’t hard to understand.

Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Monday, 22 May 2023 16:59 (eleven months ago) link

xxxp My gut here tells me Elon's involvement in Twitter was 1) not necessarily his choice, he was kompromatted into it (his lawsuit to get out of the sale was about to expose some interesting emails/texts and he instantly caved), and 2) ultimately to help the Saudis (who are investors) and their ilk as well as the interests of Jared Kushner (who he met with during the World Cup and has received billions of Saudi cash for "investments") and Rupert Murdoch (who Elon met with during the Super Bowl).

Him and his investors I'm guessing don't care one bit about the lost $ value of Twitter. I'm guessing they want it dismantled and diminished as it was a viable tool for the left to communicate, advocate and organize world wide (see Arab Spring and women's protests in Iran and many other countless movements and moments). It's an incredibly powerful tool in this regard, worth far more than its lost dollar value if it helps accomplish things like create fascist uprisings in Europe or help a Republican president get elected in 2024, which long term will protect and grow these oligarch and autocrats assets and influence far more. Seeing how the algorithm diminishes the reach of Ukraine posts already shows it being used as a political tool for manipulation.

This whole Elon "is losing a ton of money" thing is just a distraction.

octobeard, Monday, 22 May 2023 17:19 (eleven months ago) link

otoh it is quite hard to find stuff like this anywhere else

what a rothko painting is in color and form, a song by the necks is in sound and time

— Toby (@tobyshorin) May 22, 2023

Fizzles, Monday, 22 May 2023 17:38 (eleven months ago) link

Does Elon Musk really strike you as the type of person who would sacrifice personal gain for ideological gain? Doesn’t it seem more likely he assumed he could just do whatever the fuck he wanted and Twitter would continue to make money because he believes himself to be magic and infallible?

Marvel Puzzle Quest is my favorite gasm (DJP), Monday, 22 May 2023 17:55 (eleven months ago) link

never ever underestimate the ability of a coddled human being to be a 100% ego baby

ꙮ (map), Monday, 22 May 2023 18:02 (eleven months ago) link

DJP - Given his motives and the evidence exposed during his suit to get out of the sale, he already knew he was sacrificing personal gain from the get go. Perhaps it's a little bit from column A and B. Given his visible meetings with hard right oligarchs, autocrats et al (which can't be dismissed), at the very least he's being used. I tend to avoid underestimating the ruling class, especially Elon types.

octobeard, Monday, 22 May 2023 19:05 (eleven months ago) link

i'm sorry for you that you avoid underestimating the ruling class, seems exhausting.

ꙮ (map), Monday, 22 May 2023 19:10 (eleven months ago) link

try overmisunderestimating them

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 22 May 2023 19:32 (eleven months ago) link

"I'm guessing they want it dismantled and diminished as it was a viable tool for the left to communicate, advocate and organize world wide (see Arab Spring and women's protests in Iran and many other countless movements and moments)."

The movements and protests that failed. Ok.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 22 May 2023 19:33 (eleven months ago) link

the Left can only win with pamphlets

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 22 May 2023 19:35 (eleven months ago) link

Hey maybe I'm overly paranoid, but we underestimated Trump and Russia's impact on social media and its affects on democracy. But yeah perhaps I'll stick to the basketball and music threads here.

octobeard, Monday, 22 May 2023 19:40 (eleven months ago) link

Post where you want. But I might ask a question or two. I mean, I thought Facebook took a bigger 'credit' for those uprisings. So why not shut it down as well?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 22 May 2023 19:48 (eleven months ago) link

If Musk was blackmailed into buying Twitter (with significant Saudi funding public), why would they let him try to get out of it?

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 22 May 2023 19:58 (eleven months ago) link

xp Facebook is a reliable medium for disinformation.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 22 May 2023 20:07 (eleven months ago) link

I mean, so is every person on the planet earth, ime

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 22 May 2023 23:06 (eleven months ago) link

Literally nothing about Musk's behavior at any point in this debacle suggests any kind of plan, on his part or anyone else's. I do think he was reacting to and agreed with right-wing troll critiques of Twitter and its "censorship," as he's repeatedly demonstrated he's simpatico with the 4chan view of the world. The Saudis obviously have some self-interest in influencing a potentially powerful communications medium, and that would make sense as a reason for them to buy in. But nothing about it seems organized or orchestrated, Musk seems like he's just been running on incoherent instinct and lazy contempt.

Don't forget the potential value in all the DMs and communications that could be shared to said "investors" as well.

octobeard, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 00:56 (eleven months ago) link

Nobody’s pushing valuable state secrets on Twitter; that’s Discord territory

Marvel Puzzle Quest is my favorite gasm (DJP), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 01:13 (eleven months ago) link

oh thank god - he's not running for president

, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 18:48 (eleven months ago) link

needed a guy with even less charisma as a wingman

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 18:49 (eleven months ago) link

he found someone who will love him for who he is, not his wealth

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/05/22/08/71259053-12110105-image-a-3_1684741522248.jpg

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 19:21 (eleven months ago) link

oh thank god - he's not running for president

If Musk was allowed to run we've have already lived through two terms of President Arnold Schwarzenegger.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:00 (eleven months ago) link

Musk I think would get less votes per $ spent than Bloomberg

frogbs, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:04 (eleven months ago) link

“Rin Di Santis”

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:08 (eleven months ago) link

Like that also confirms what I suspect is that Ron is the VC fascists’ choice for president.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:10 (eleven months ago) link

Musk I think would get less votes per $ spent than Bloomberg

but ian miles cheong would vote for him. o hang on.

serving aunt (stevie), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 08:16 (eleven months ago) link

1/🚨 Dorsey is today pushing QAnon propaganda, derived from an apocryphal JFK quote that has also been used by Wikileaks, and which has religious origins. This is QAnon dog-whistling. https://t.co/oI4Q5B828S

— Dave Troy (@davetroy) May 24, 2023

6/This was the first time Jack has tweeted something new in months.

Elon made sure to amplify it with a “!” tweet. And it includes a link to this portrait of JFK. Pure QAnon nonsense, and full Jack/Elon axis in play. pic.twitter.com/FURur3GNq1

— Dave Troy (@davetroy) May 24, 2023

nashwan, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 09:01 (eleven months ago) link

QAnon otm tbf.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 09:46 (eleven months ago) link

Poling etc. "But.."

https://t.co/E2C52R6bNw pic.twitter.com/Wv413ktiIO

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) May 24, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 11:07 (eleven months ago) link

Skeptical that "the rest of the country" all know who Joe Rogan is.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 11:28 (eleven months ago) link

it's "donald trump is a good businessman" all over again innit?

, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 14:17 (eleven months ago) link

I dreamt last night that Musk was involved in some criminal scheme with Donald Trump in which they were somehow trafficking in stolen microprocessors(?) I think it was my mind attempting to reckon with how genuinely sinister a person or phenomenon he is, in light of his recent flood of anti-semitic conspiracy memes posting, his showcasing Tucker and Desantis, the arrogant rich guy "I don't have to pay these bills, what are you going to do sue me?" while putting lives in danger via fire code violations, etc. behaviors... as opposed to the habit of just thinking of him as being a gormless charmless fraud of sorts.

How is someone having that much money and power and fanbase, who is happy to inanely regurgitate qanon-ish nazi memes and just asking questions responses (or for that matter, Trump still supposedly being a viable presidential candidate in 2024...) possibly going to end well, for the country or the world at large?

Years ago when I first encountered his name regularly I ended up blocking it on Twitter because I was weary of hearing about him and people endlessly complaining about him/making fun of him... "Elon Musk". Somehow his name alone manages to be unpleasant. Then a couple years later I came to understand that he was a terrible person in a way that I hadn't previously realized. Now it just seems so much worse and I wish that everyone who were formally blue checks, back when blue checks meant something, the actual public figures/journalists/govt orgs who aren't the dilbert guy or whoever, would abandon the site en masse and let it rot as a Gab/Parler/TruthSocial-style backwater that he dumped billions into and tanked his reputation over.

dell (del), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 19:00 (eleven months ago) link

remember when elon hosted an event to showcase an unbreakable car window and it immediately cracked. now imagine it was a human brain https://t.co/OeLEXAHcU6

— Law Boy (@The_Law_Boy) May 25, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 May 2023 09:24 (ten months ago) link

the people who are utterly terrified of the vaccine are gonna be first in line for this

frogbs, Friday, 26 May 2023 13:13 (ten months ago) link

the chip teaches you to be a very good Musk fanboy

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 26 May 2023 13:28 (ten months ago) link

the people who are utterly terrified of the vaccine are gonna be first in line for this

For some reason that Bill Hicks about the world feeling lighter already for having lost another idiot springs to mind.

serving aunt (stevie), Friday, 26 May 2023 14:00 (ten months ago) link

I think reverse Midas touch Musk is the problem, not the tech or concept. This was just a few days ago and is super-cool/nuts:

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2023/may/24/paralysed-man-walks-using-device-that-reconnects-brain-with-muscles

A man who was paralysed in a cycling accident in 2011 has been able to stand and walk with an aid after doctors implanted a device that reads his brain waves and sends instructions to his spine to move the right muscles.

Gert-Jan Oskam, 40, was told he would never walk again after breaking his neck in a traffic accident in China, but has climbed stairs and walked for more than 100 metres at a time since having the operation.

“A few months ago, I was able, for the first time after 10 years, to stand up and have a beer with my friends,” said Oskam, who is from the Netherlands. “That was pretty cool. I want to use it in my daily life.”

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 May 2023 14:04 (ten months ago) link

(lol, the quote reads like he wants to use beer in his daily life, which I appreciate.)

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 May 2023 14:05 (ten months ago) link

That's not Musk's project though, like Tesla isn't the only electric car.

serving aunt (stevie), Friday, 26 May 2023 14:05 (ten months ago) link

No, I know, that's what I meant. It's not the brain implanting that is the problem, it's Musk being behind his own version of it that raises (AI-augmented) eyebrows.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 May 2023 14:09 (ten months ago) link

Maybe his direct competitors have conspired to keep him in the game? Like if he fails epically and publicly at everything he does, other folks doing the same things only need to have like a 60% success rate to look amazing in comparison. Create a self-driving car that only runs over every tenth toddler rather than every third, for instance.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 May 2023 15:29 (ten months ago) link

Can't believe nobody has noticed that the announcement is from MUsk's company. This is the guy who said he had "verbal approval" from the government to build a hyperloop up the East Coast.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 26 May 2023 15:35 (ten months ago) link

right and it doesn't really specify what exactly they've gotten clearance to test, in all likelihood it's just some non-invasive EEG prototype thing

frogbs, Friday, 26 May 2023 19:25 (ten months ago) link

Am I imagining it or has he subtly changed his affect lately to sound more thoughtful and circumspect?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 27 May 2023 00:39 (ten months ago) link

Am I imagining it or has he subtly changed his affect lately to sound more thoughtful and circumspect?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 27 May 2023 00:39 (ten months ago) link

Maybe he's got a factory making quaaludes again.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 27 May 2023 01:13 (ten months ago) link

Am I imagining it or has he subtly changed his affect lately to sound more thoughtful and circumspect?


The thoughtful, circumspect, anti-Semite

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 27 May 2023 02:30 (ten months ago) link

He didn’t just read the wiki summary of the Protocols, he studied them closely.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 27 May 2023 02:45 (ten months ago) link

Concerning

mh, Saturday, 27 May 2023 15:31 (ten months ago) link

It's not the brain implanting that is the problem

no i agree, but it's not Musk's version that is the success! But it's Musk's version the chuds will tolerate over the one that actually works

serving aunt (stevie), Sunday, 28 May 2023 09:16 (ten months ago) link

Well, if they get it and it drives them all to self-harm and suicide the way it did the apes, something good will have come from all this.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, 28 May 2023 13:02 (ten months ago) link

A familiar story when libertarians' bluffs are called:

BASTROP COUNTY, Tex. — Chap Ambrose has always been a fan of Elon Musk. He spent $100 to join the waiting list for Tesla’s first pickup in 2019 and bought internet service from Musk’s satellite provider.

But then the billionaire’s companies moved in next door to the computer programmer, who works from his rural, hilltop home.

Two years later, massive construction sites and large white warehouses have taken over the green pastures where cattle used to graze. Semis barrel up and down the narrow country roads. And the companies — rocket manufacturer SpaceX and tunneling company Boring — are seeking state permission to dump treated wastewater into the nearby Colorado River.
“I just have no faith that the leadership there values the environment and these shared resources,” said Ambrose, who leads a group of local residents pushing Musk’s companies to slow down and address concerns about the environmental risks of the development. “I would say, I’m still a fan (of Elon), but I want him to do better here and be a good neighbor.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/05/28/elon-musk-texas-spacex-boring-bastrop/

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 May 2023 14:53 (ten months ago) link

Judah Ross, a Bastrop real estate agent, said afterward that he went into the meeting feeling neutral about the issue but left opposed because he found the Boring consultant’s answers “evasive.”

Musk, he said, is building products that are “changing the world.”

“I love Elon, and we need more industry here,” Ross said. “I just don’t want him to dump his poop in the river.”

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 May 2023 14:56 (ten months ago) link

Again, it blows my mind that capitalist billionaires have “fans”.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 28 May 2023 15:01 (ten months ago) link

I want to preface by saying that I love Elon and think he's a total sweetheart. I guess I just wish he'd stop systematically torturing and murdering my family members and subjecting me to an endless series of punishing medical experiments. Great guy otherwise, though, A+.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Sunday, 28 May 2023 16:46 (ten months ago) link

gotta say the man has a talent for making me hate him just a little bit more each day

🔥

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 29, 2023

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 15:21 (ten months ago) link

even by his standards this is insane pic.twitter.com/6H2GZ4kJix

— effortful grunter (@lib_crusher) June 7, 2023

"hate the js"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 18:57 (ten months ago) link

twitter is going to buy the daily wire, isn't it

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 18:58 (ten months ago) link

Daily Wire already moved their podcasts to Twitter. Whatever that means.

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 19:16 (ten months ago) link

Elon either doesn't know that twitter is accessible on the web, and/or is about to demand his engineers revoke the API keys of the World Wide Web pic.twitter.com/rVPy2cbafi

— Dan Nguyen (@dancow) June 14, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 14:51 (ten months ago) link

please let Elon get into a fight with ChatGPT

mh, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:12 (ten months ago) link

How is “cis” or “cisgender” a slur? In which direction? https://t.co/9VQby0tqhm

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) June 21, 2023

fite!

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 19:10 (ten months ago) link

https://frinkiac.com/img/S05E03/985333.jpg

Grandall Flange (wins), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 19:13 (ten months ago) link

so not gonna happen

If this is for real, I will do it 🔥🔥

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 22, 2023

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 June 2023 14:36 (ten months ago) link

we can bully him into doing it, zuck is on board hes been special forces larping

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 June 2023 14:53 (ten months ago) link

I 100% believe Zuck is willing to do this, Elon is obviously gonna back out and blame it on trans people somehow

frogbs, Thursday, 22 June 2023 16:52 (ten months ago) link

which is why we must bully him, hes vulnerable to it

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 June 2023 16:53 (ten months ago) link

gotta give credit where its due here, flawless execution

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzMShjAaAAARZGJ?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 June 2023 16:55 (ten months ago) link

three weeks pass...

I've been laughing at this for over a week now. Absolutely perfect. pic.twitter.com/oAmgJ1EbKh

— Ben Jenkins (@bencjenkins) July 18, 2023

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 20:39 (nine months ago) link

The richest man in the world stole a meme from a 16-year-old kid and cropped him off pic.twitter.com/wtDLEeO8FP

— Fifty Shades of Whey (@davenewworld_2) July 23, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 23 July 2023 20:59 (nine months ago) link

he's a founder/investor tho, he knew what he signed up for

toenail fungus (Hunt3r), Sunday, 23 July 2023 23:07 (nine months ago) link

lmao pic.twitter.com/FMWLjZGz2y

— huffy (@sulkingtime) July 27, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 July 2023 22:48 (eight months ago) link

lol, "chicken wings and cigarettes"

nickn, Thursday, 27 July 2023 22:51 (eight months ago) link

I love the punchline.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 27 July 2023 23:12 (eight months ago) link

Equal parts eye opening and terrifying

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/07/28/business/starlink.html

groovypanda, Saturday, 29 July 2023 20:17 (eight months ago) link

Tesla cfo stepping down effective immediately, replaced by someone from solarcity 🤔

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 7 August 2023 14:42 (eight months ago) link

lol

Am lifting weights throughout the day, preparing for the fight.

Don’t have time to work out, so I just bring them to work.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) August 6, 2023

NEW: Elon Musk says he will receive an MRI of his neck and upper back and may require surgery https://t.co/vbWv0r8hlb

— Bloomberg (@business) August 7, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 7 August 2023 15:12 (eight months ago) link

needs a a spine implant amirite

Everybody’s so down on themselves!

Tesla cfo stepping down effective immediately, replaced by someone from solarcity 🤔


So is it pronounced “Solar city” or “sol-arse-ity”

Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 7 August 2023 15:21 (eight months ago) link

Musk: I am training to fight
Musk (a minute later): I am getting my spine replaced.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 August 2023 15:39 (eight months ago) link

Be hilarious if Musk tried to back out of fighting Zuckerberg and Zuckerberg took him to court and forced him to fight.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 August 2023 15:49 (eight months ago) link

Delaware Court of Chancery governs merger disputes and the MMA I believe

symsymsym, Monday, 7 August 2023 16:39 (eight months ago) link

tbh I’m not surprised he needs work on his neck. Looks pretty messed up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rck4PQXVDA

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 7 August 2023 20:21 (eight months ago) link

one can only hope they have to completely remove his head to do this surgery

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 7 August 2023 20:25 (eight months ago) link

he needs to let zuck give him a chiropractic adjustment

The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Monday, 7 August 2023 20:26 (eight months ago) link

So is this neck thing just a dodge to get out of fighting Zuckerberg?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 7 August 2023 20:28 (eight months ago) link

Failed self-suck attempt

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 7 August 2023 20:31 (eight months ago) link

head up own ass injury

So today he's pretending he didn't back out of the fight last month?

adam t. (abanana), Monday, 7 August 2023 21:28 (eight months ago) link

Here's an unusual situation. I had a Tesla, crashed it, it was totaled. And now it's ... in Ukraine? And someone there is listening to Drake on my, still logged in, Spotify account. pic.twitter.com/ymW2psyvz6

— Jay Yarow (@jyarow) August 10, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 10 August 2023 14:10 (eight months ago) link

I've heard about this from someone irl like last year lol, their old car was driving around the black sea area

Bongo Jongus, Thursday, 10 August 2023 16:50 (eight months ago) link

it was 'totally' exported to eastern europe

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 August 2023 17:00 (eight months ago) link

This is the mind-blowingly racist neo-Nazi account that Elon Musk just followed. Literally one of the most racist accounts on this entire website: https://t.co/zzwwD95uxl pic.twitter.com/5JH2OkXsA1

— Will Stancil (@whstancil) August 9, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 10 August 2023 20:12 (eight months ago) link

Eugenics and IQ score-pseudoscience are hot again on the right (if they ever weren't).

Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 10 August 2023 20:32 (eight months ago) link

Reminds him of dear old Dad

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 August 2023 20:34 (eight months ago) link

I'll just say this, if you want a terrifying insight into just how dire his app is right now, spend even 90 seconds scrolling through the replies to Stancil's tweet and see exactly how many verified accounts are loudly defending the racist for "simply stating the truth". Spoiler alert, it's a fucking lot of them. And, even expecting it going in, a lot of those are tech bros.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 August 2023 21:19 (eight months ago) link

Yeah, it's extremely bad and disheartening, stomach-turning, among other things. In the early years of Twitter, before Jack I guess realized that "absolute free speech" didn't really work in practice, there were plenty of groups of the sort monitored by SPLC who had Twitter accounts and would post whatever gross stuff. But, you had to actually be searching for that type of content. Now, even if you only look at your "Following" feed, it is impossible to avoid that stuff, because clicking on any popular post will reveal dozens and dozens of outright nazi or nazi-ish posts by blue check accounts. That is all Elon's doing. He designed it that way. He thinks it's important for people to see that stuff. Some of those same people he retweets, some of them he rewards financially.

There was an interview with Yaccarino on CNBC earlier today that was awful. She kept retreating into drivel about how wonderful a platform it is for debating ideas, even or especially ones we may not agree with... ohh, yeah. Well, I thought I had made up my mind about the whole nazi thing but, I probably should give the other side a fair hearing. We could have a healthy, vibrant exchange of ideas!

John Cusack tweeted some scathing, perhaps slightly over the top thing about DeSantis today to the effect that he's a nazi ghoul who should he locked up in some kind of institution, and at first I kind of rolled my eyes a bit, thinking how this is a good example of why people get irritated by or at least don't take seriously "hollywood liberals" opining on political shit. But then I was like "wait, no! Basically everything he's saying is completely right!" It's insane that DeSantis, Trump, Abbott, MTG -- all these fucks, were not drummed out of polite society a long time ago, much less ever entertained as being legitimate candidates in the realm of public service.

They are monsters, and in the same way that people who are not great at math have trouble conceiving how much bigger a billion is than a few million, the average flawed person who is basically decent at heart and trying in good faith to do the right thing as they live their life I think has trouble understanding how sociopathic and truly monstrous these people are. If you are a "oh gosh, was I rude to that cab driver, and did I tip them enough?" person, how can you even begin to approach an understanding of the moral void that is at the heart of these people?

That is what worries me about Elon. Obviously a total shitbag with an execrable worldview and kinda dumb to boot, but people positively worship the wealth and power he wields or represents to such a degree that they will happily ignore him torturing monkeys or doing the equivalent of trump's "shooting someone on fifth avenue". One often gets the feeling that even diehard MAGA people think on some level that Trump is a bit of a buffoon, but Musk's fans see him as a Visionary. I just have a ~bad feeling~, apart from simply "this guy sucks". That much wealth alone can very easily turn someone into something of a monster. But if they were already a shitty person? And tons of people think that the person is a genius who is going to solve so many of humanity's most pressing problems? And the same person is trying to give creepy eugenics and nazi shit maximal exposure on his giant social media site?

I legitimately have TDS. I feel it's like how in the years since 9-11 when people look at the economic waste and the forever wars and the security theater that has made air travel hell and then they will glumly admit yeah, the terrorists/Osama won. Like, even if Trump gets locked up tomorrow, or dies a spectacularly humiliating death while conducting one of his hate events, for all practical purposes, he won! He has done so much damage, legitimized and emboldened the worst behaviors and attitudes in so many people on such a large scale, has unleashed so much profoundly unwholesome energy, etc.

dell (del), Friday, 11 August 2023 01:13 (eight months ago) link

^^^^OTM Good post

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 11 August 2023 01:20 (eight months ago) link

yeah. it really sucks. that's a big part of what killed me the night of the election, the knowledge that Trump is now forever a part of American history. that one day my grandchildren will learn about this guy and he will perhaps be described as an "eccentric straight shooter". he may get humiliated again in 2024, he may get charged and convicted and eventually sentenced to jail time, but it doesn't matter. he still won, he still triggered the libs, he still completely reshaped an entire political party in his image, in a way that I don't think really's ever been done in our country's history. for the rest of my life if there's a single person in power who continues to support him or his "ideology" (whatever the fuck that is) I cannot say I'm proud to be American.

frogbs, Friday, 11 August 2023 02:23 (eight months ago) link

i’m just going to write, not judgmentally, that if you were proud to be an American before Trump, you just weren’t paying attention.

(that said, I agree with del’s post— but I would focus more on the sheer force of the nihilism and meanness which he brought and which has now seeped into all corners and ideologies)

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 11 August 2023 11:28 (eight months ago) link

if this video were made today hed be no scoping sex traffickers from 400 yards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KoXt9pZLGM

lag∞n, Friday, 11 August 2023 11:57 (eight months ago) link

all I can say is I've spent far too long giving conservative ideology the benefit of the doubt - I watch/read liberal media, I hang out with liberals, I'm aware we talk about them the same way they talk about us, I assumed maybe there was *something* to at least their economic ideas, but nah, turns out it's literally all about them having hurt feelings

frogbs, Friday, 11 August 2023 13:49 (eight months ago) link

proud to say as an american that i never gave those fuckers the time of day, i do regret humoring and harboring centrist-dem politics tho

lag∞n, Friday, 11 August 2023 14:07 (eight months ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3SoAUhWwAEnYaG?format=jpg&name=900x900

lag∞n, Saturday, 12 August 2023 22:39 (eight months ago) link

del's post is OTM. I got tired of hearing people say 'don't normalize racism' shit but it was true, and now it seems to have been completely normalized, and race science tech bro nutjobs are proliferating.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 12 August 2023 22:48 (eight months ago) link

Ive seen that post a couple of times, WTF is Elmo saying there, "If Zuck my"... tongue? Heart? I dont know what that emoji is doing.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 13 August 2023 01:36 (eight months ago) link

I assume it's a pussy emoji, but that requires your brain to contemplate for even one microsecond the thought of Elon Musk eating pussy

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 13 August 2023 01:37 (eight months ago) link

While listening to Dan Carlin

spelling Sméagol on Grimes’s upper thigh

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 13 August 2023 01:48 (eight months ago) link

they should fight to the death

I got this text message from Elon Musk at 4:44am CT showing a screenshot of some text messages in which he tells Mark Zuckerberg they should fight this Monday at Zuckerberg’s home in Palo Alto. pic.twitter.com/krgRsH5P5G

— Walter Isaacson (@WalterIsaacson) August 13, 2023

lag∞n, Sunday, 13 August 2023 12:55 (eight months ago) link

What about the neck surgery?

Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 13 August 2023 13:19 (eight months ago) link

even if Trump gets locked up tomorrow, or dies a spectacularly humiliating death while conducting one of his hate events, for all practical purposes, he won! He has done so much damage, legitimized and emboldened the worst behaviors and attitudes in so many people on such a large scale, has unleashed so much profoundly unwholesome energy, etc.

otm; repairing that damage would be a slow and patient but doable process if the organizational will were there for it, but probably nah.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 13 August 2023 13:50 (eight months ago) link

it is doable, i agree. it will take a new religion, let's go

isn't this how the early russian socialists did stuff? imagine if they had social media.

toenail fungus (Hunt3r), Sunday, 13 August 2023 15:42 (eight months ago) link

(truly tho, i do agree it is doable and it is lol--what is to be done)

toenail fungus (Hunt3r), Sunday, 13 August 2023 15:44 (eight months ago) link

sad

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3bLG4vXAAAJ_Q2?format=jpg&name=900x900

lag∞n, Sunday, 13 August 2023 16:35 (eight months ago) link

could have gone out like a legend

mh, Sunday, 13 August 2023 16:42 (eight months ago) link

I'm kind of relieved that I won't have to be embarrassingly emotionally invested in Mark Zuckerberg winning an MMA match

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 August 2023 17:05 (eight months ago) link

Oh Zuckerberg would obviously kick his ass, which, like, of course he would, he's actually an MMA fighter. It's not really any shade on Musk that he would lose an MMA fight to somebody who trains and fights as an MMA fighter. But it would have been pretty fun to see him get his ass kicked, so I'm sorry we're robbed of that.

From the beginning I figured there was a 0% chance it was actually gonna happen and it wasn’t because of Zuck

frogbs, Sunday, 13 August 2023 18:08 (eight months ago) link

does zuck have the juice to goad musk into this

mark s, Sunday, 13 August 2023 18:19 (eight months ago) link

did you guys hear that zuck rizzed up elon

mh, Sunday, 13 August 2023 18:21 (eight months ago) link

Elon trying to make his paunch a feature rather than a bug.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 13 August 2023 21:33 (eight months ago) link

In other words, roll with the paunches.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 August 2023 21:35 (eight months ago) link

Sancho Panzón

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 13 August 2023 21:36 (eight months ago) link

A Paunch and Judy Show.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 August 2023 21:41 (eight months ago) link

Is that a real paunch or a Sears paunch?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 13 August 2023 21:43 (eight months ago) link

am i going crazy or wasn't a rich dude getting obsessed with becoming an MMA fighter a subplot in a lesser season of Friends?

serving aunt (stevie), Sunday, 13 August 2023 22:00 (eight months ago) link

Look, any two knuckleheads can climb in a cage together... they should have it out like a couple of real billionaires; see who can hire the best team of assassins versus the other guy's private security detail...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Sunday, 13 August 2023 22:01 (eight months ago) link

this meme return when

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aydOe4W_460s.jpg

mark s, Monday, 14 August 2023 10:26 (eight months ago) link

xp not so weird that Friends did it. there's only so many frontiers these rich guys can help mankind get a better understanding of: space, AI, and *checks notes* full-contact combat

Vinnie, Monday, 14 August 2023 11:33 (eight months ago) link

ronan farrow on musks influence on the us government, not a great sitch

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/28/elon-musks-shadow-rule

no paywall https://archive.ph/GEjpZ

lag∞n, Monday, 21 August 2023 15:50 (eight months ago) link

Again, we have an emasculated government, unable to even to even conduct foreign policy without relying on a billionaire.

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 21 August 2023 16:35 (eight months ago) link

You might want to reconsider your metaphor. Seems to me more of a tension between a weak democracy and an ascendant oligarchy than one of insufficient power at the disposal of the government.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 21 August 2023 17:26 (eight months ago) link

Lol pic.twitter.com/nsqmhFXIOH

— Brooks Otterlake (@i_zzzzzz) August 21, 2023

, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 13:44 (eight months ago) link

we were so close to a better world

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 13:49 (eight months ago) link

just remembered this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnJBx_QagAQO8kQ?format=jpg&name=large

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 14:56 (eight months ago) link

the cool friends gang

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 15:04 (eight months ago) link

the extent to which people kiss his ass is truly disgusting

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 15:08 (eight months ago) link

I can't read "I made the clutch move of ordering us pizza" without picturing Kendall Roy

the clutch move of telling ronan farrow yr billionaire pal's life just sucks

mark s, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 16:10 (eight months ago) link

do I have to read that Farrow piece?

rob, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 16:11 (eight months ago) link

not really

mark s, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 16:13 (eight months ago) link

you have to sorry

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 16:14 (eight months ago) link

It's not particularly revelatory. My big takeaway was that in a better country a government sniper would put a bullet through his head.

read-only (unperson), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 16:24 (eight months ago) link

"honey badger drinks when he wants"

omar little, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 16:34 (eight months ago) link

we were so close to a better world

― lag∞n

we could have had it so good. maybe that incident explains his weird posture.

omar little, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 16:35 (eight months ago) link

It's not particularly revelatory.

― read-only (unperson), Tuesday, August 22, 2023 12:24 PM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the meat of the article, the mechanisms of musk influence over the government, hasnt really been reported before at least not in this detail, and its important imho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 16:48 (eight months ago) link

damn

rob, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 16:50 (eight months ago) link

but on the other hand if you just assume rich guy has too much power you wouldnt be wrong

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 17:03 (eight months ago) link

stuff like

the Occupational Safety and Health Administration told me that Musk’s influence had become inescapable in their work, and several of them said that they now treat him like a sort of unelected official. One Pentagon spokesman said that he was keeping Musk apprised of my inquiries about his role in Ukraine and would grant an interview with an official about the matter only with Musk’s permission. “We’ll talk to you if Elon wants us to,” he told me.

is pretty strong

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 17:08 (eight months ago) link

then you mix in musks instability and ambiguous/bad politics and its not that good

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 17:10 (eight months ago) link

xp That sounds made up.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 17:10 (eight months ago) link

dumbest possible timeline type scenario

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 17:12 (eight months ago) link

In the past twenty years, against a backdrop of crumbling infrastructure and declining trust in institutions, Musk has sought out business opportunities in crucial areas where, after decades of privatization, the state has receded.
yup and with government contribution/participation it's fucking obscene. it's like oligarchs have a system or something. dece article, lagoon et al otm

aeronimo is mad againe (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 17:13 (eight months ago) link

its that famous neoliberalism that we all know and love

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 17:15 (eight months ago) link

oof yeah "thanks" for posting that OSHA bit

rob, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 17:35 (eight months ago) link

god i forgot that she laughs in his face and hes like on the verge of tears the entire time https://t.co/ZTkoF9COMN

— teen vampire, aged 40 (@starswheeled) August 23, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 17:34 (eight months ago) link

so moist

omar little, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 17:40 (eight months ago) link

"look at you"

hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 17:43 (eight months ago) link

so mean lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 17:49 (eight months ago) link

that's the most Afrikaner sounding I've heard from him, she must've got under his skin

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 19:02 (eight months ago) link

every once in a while this resurfaces and

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4FiBUaW4AAQeV_?format=jpg&name=small

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 22:29 (eight months ago) link

cuts off the best part, he recommends some mobile game instead lol

https://images.chesscomfiles.com/uploads/v1/images_users/tiny_mce/raync910/phpPDm8qz.png

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 22:45 (eight months ago) link

...but he's describing Civ! lol.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 23:51 (eight months ago) link

I thought it was Minecraft

hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 23:52 (eight months ago) link

and Polytopia is just a dumbed down simplified version of Civ for mobile.

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 23:57 (eight months ago) link

Candy Crush addresses these limitations.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 23:58 (eight months ago) link

tbh I think elon may actually have been attempting a joke there

, Thursday, 24 August 2023 00:09 (eight months ago) link

Pretty sure Elon just got mad he couldn’t make his Bishop excommunicate a Rook

hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Thursday, 24 August 2023 00:10 (eight months ago) link

Thinking Polytopia is better than chess is the only interesting thing he’s ever said.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 24 August 2023 03:23 (eight months ago) link

Both sides exact same pieces

I wonder why he hates the idea of everyone having the exact same starting chance.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 24 August 2023 08:59 (eight months ago) link

sad thing is its been well documented that elon likes games but he has to do this thought leader schtick where games are only good if they help you win at life

lag∞n, Thursday, 24 August 2023 13:54 (eight months ago) link

guess he felt insecure about not playing the smart guy game

lag∞n, Thursday, 24 August 2023 14:12 (eight months ago) link

poker is the true business analog tho

lag∞n, Thursday, 24 August 2023 14:12 (eight months ago) link

*looking at cyber truck* the door is a fraction of a hair off

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4UCo_OXwAE6z5j?format=jpg&name=900x900

lag∞n, Friday, 25 August 2023 02:49 (eight months ago) link

LEGO is designed and built to sub 10 microns accuracy?

Did this guy become a billionaire just by talking out his ass?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 25 August 2023 02:52 (eight months ago) link

That and blood diamonds.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 25 August 2023 02:55 (eight months ago) link

Bullshit + blood diamonds

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 25 August 2023 02:56 (eight months ago) link

lego really is made to incredible tolerances

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 25 August 2023 03:07 (eight months ago) link

very funny to compare a car to a soda can

lag∞n, Friday, 25 August 2023 03:13 (eight months ago) link

Lego doesn’t fuck around with their product, for sure.

The Algorithms somehow put Musk clowning subreddit r/enoughmuskspam in my feed and the thread dedicated to that particular memo was some entertaining reading last night. Pointing out how moronic it was from about 20 different angles.

circa1916, Friday, 25 August 2023 03:52 (eight months ago) link

Oh I didn’t notice lagoon’s post actually came from there lol

circa1916, Friday, 25 August 2023 03:55 (eight months ago) link

my manufacturing friend’s comment on Elon’s micron-accurate take is “this is how you price a vehicle like a space shuttle”

mh, Friday, 25 August 2023 14:14 (eight months ago) link

this is how you price a vehicle like a LEGO kit

peace, man, Friday, 25 August 2023 14:29 (eight months ago) link

Anyone have a link to this?

Apparently I totally missed a certain tyrant on this website making his ex-wife go viral for horrible manners in Japan by ruining one of her gigs pic.twitter.com/gOZSJDQf15

— I Am Unseriouz Oranj (@fireh9lly) August 25, 2023

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 25 August 2023 14:35 (eight months ago) link

What do you expect at a Grimes gig these days?

LEGO is designed and built to sub 10 microns accuracy?

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, August 24, 2023 10:52 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah. Injection moulding is incredible.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 25 August 2023 14:50 (eight months ago) link

Lego's injection molded stainless steel sets are amazing

actual veggie mexican pizza received (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 25 August 2023 14:53 (eight months ago) link

a couple of months ago my daughter got a barbie-branded set of building blocks that were presumably created to be as close to lego as possible without being legally actionable and jesus christ they feel like absolute shit to play with, it really gave me an appreciation for the design of the real thing

anyway, fuck elon musk obv

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 25 August 2023 14:57 (eight months ago) link

why are people still calling her his ex-wife? of all the dumb things she did, oddly marrying him wasn’t one afaict

mh, Friday, 25 August 2023 16:10 (eight months ago) link

Elon's divorced energy is so strong that anyone who dates him becomes an ex-wife de facto

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 25 August 2023 17:38 (eight months ago) link

fair

mh, Friday, 25 August 2023 17:48 (eight months ago) link

It's not my wife, it's just my girlfriend I had two kids with

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 25 August 2023 17:52 (eight months ago) link

it's like Rumpelstiltskin. The monster makes the gold for the lady, raising her station. But in this case the monster doesn't want the baby. Also, the baby has the strange name.

actual veggie mexican pizza received (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 25 August 2023 17:54 (eight months ago) link

Grimes' Tales for Young and Old

actual veggie mexican pizza received (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 25 August 2023 17:56 (eight months ago) link

cool Bob Mould tune

that's the most Afrikaner sounding I've heard from him, she must've got under his skin

― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, August 23, 2023 3:02 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

I did love how the farrow article described him as growing up “under” apartheid

k3vin k., Friday, 25 August 2023 22:14 (eight months ago) link

what is this thread?

budo jeru, Friday, 25 August 2023 23:02 (eight months ago) link

you should all be embarrassed to post in this thread about a fucking needle dick dimwit

budo jeru, Friday, 25 August 2023 23:02 (eight months ago) link

damn budo jeru dont say something youll regret

lag∞n, Friday, 25 August 2023 23:13 (eight months ago) link

microns

https://t.co/sU64sleU1l pic.twitter.com/gKqID5rttA

— Eric Hu (@_EricHu) August 25, 2023

lag∞n, Friday, 25 August 2023 23:27 (eight months ago) link

That fucking thing still looks like a solar oven
https://www.sustainablewaterlooregion.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Screen-Shot-2021-09-06-at-4.58.01-PM-1024x568.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 August 2023 23:53 (eight months ago) link

Or maybe "Box" from Logan's Run

https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/box.gif

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 25 August 2023 23:57 (eight months ago) link

how is that a truck

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 26 August 2023 00:01 (seven months ago) link

You know this has to be the inspiration:

https://i0.wp.com/www.electricsheepmagazine.co.uk/reviews/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/review_damnation-alley.jpg

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 26 August 2023 00:02 (seven months ago) link

you should all be embarrassed to post in this thread about a fucking needle dick dimwit

― budo jeru, Friday, August 25, 2023 7:02 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is like when I didn't click on ILE for like 3-6 years.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Saturday, 26 August 2023 00:25 (seven months ago) link

cybertruck is now vaporware instead of vaporwave

formerly abanana (dat), Saturday, 26 August 2023 07:41 (seven months ago) link

Elon Musk and Y Combinator's CEO are trying to blacklist a law firm, because it does pro-bono work for the civil rights of homeless people.

The class war is real. pic.twitter.com/5aEMmcBj9W

— Y Dissasembler (@loomdoop) August 26, 2023

lag∞n, Saturday, 26 August 2023 18:30 (seven months ago) link

tbh it's weird seeing one of the largest and most profitable law firms in the world as the victim here

, Saturday, 26 August 2023 22:07 (seven months ago) link

"I personally demand"

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 26 August 2023 22:08 (seven months ago) link

I've said it before, but the rhetoric around homelessness in this country is getting genocidal

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 26 August 2023 23:42 (seven months ago) link

Without context, it looks like that Garry Tan guy (whoever he is) is supportive of treatment programs/shelters which on the face of it seems reasonable?

I assume the issue (on a quick google) is that people just want tent cities obliterated but there's no other option for the homeless, despite Tan's suggestions?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 27 August 2023 00:56 (seven months ago) link

I’m basically to: Does unhoused-ness even need to be solved? If so, why?

you need magical thinking ayo my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Sunday, 27 August 2023 01:00 (seven months ago) link

xp His "solution" probably comes down to bootstraps and tough love.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 27 August 2023 01:05 (seven months ago) link

DS9 prophetic

mookieproof, Sunday, 27 August 2023 01:37 (seven months ago) link

I’m basically to: Does unhoused-ness even need to be solved? If so, why?


Well, anyone who wants to be housed should.

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 27 August 2023 01:45 (seven months ago) link

I've said it before, but the rhetoric around homelessness in this country is getting genocidal

Huge trigger for the disgust reflex in right-wing rhetoric. The dehumanization in the way they talk about homeless people is as bad as it is about trans people, and it really does sound like some Rwanda radio/Goebbels kind of shit.

And as always they don't want to "solve" homelessness, they just don't want to see it.

They want to be able to characterize it as a problem for liberal cities, caused by liberal policies.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 27 August 2023 01:55 (seven months ago) link

Does unhoused-ness even need to be solved? If so, why?

"Solved" might not be the best way to think of it, but people who are homeless need to be attended to. Most of them are in one kind of crisis or another — economic, most often, and also mental health and addiction etc. They're people who have for the most part fallen through every safety net. So yeah they need help, and housing is mostly the best place to start.

I know a guy who is probably the closest you could come to a real happy hobo type. He's real-deal hippie troubadour who writes poetry and busks on his acoustic guitar. He spent decades basically migrating back and forth from Tennessee to Florida, going south in the winters and for the most part living outside the whole time. He was a really experienced camper, he lived on what he made busking, and he says that he just really loved the life. But then he got older, everything got harder, being cold and wet was worse than it used to be, and so forth. He decided to get on the list for public housing when he was in his late '60s. He eventually got a little apartment. He still busks downtown and can't possibly have much money to get by on, but at least he's got a bed. Everybody likes to have a bed.

Speaking as someone with firsthand dealings with Garry Tan, he is absolutely terrible, he is a libertarian cryptodouche who thinks local politics can be solved by recalling school board members, the DA, the police commissioner, the board of supes, etc. Absolute racist trash.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 27 August 2023 02:11 (seven months ago) link

lmao wrecked

Elon Musk getting booed at VALORANT Champs and the crowd starts chanting "bring back Twitter" lmao pic.twitter.com/lDoWse78YV

— Jake Lucky (@JakeSucky) August 26, 2023

lag∞n, Sunday, 27 August 2023 18:55 (seven months ago) link

"This crowd is funny."

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 27 August 2023 18:58 (seven months ago) link

Was that a crowd watching people play a video game?

I think you mean eSports, a billion dollar industry. Maybe now that he's been mocked, Musk will buy all eSports for $100 billion and then put it out of business.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 August 2023 23:26 (seven months ago) link

I mean, watching eSports is no different than every fat fuck who watches football, so.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 27 August 2023 23:28 (seven months ago) link

So it is a crowd watching people play video games

A friend of mine (former boss at Roadrunner Records) runs an esports empire (including the biggest gaming center in the southern hemisphere, apparently) in Australia. BIG money in video games, and watching other people play them.

read-only (unperson), Sunday, 27 August 2023 23:41 (seven months ago) link

fp'ed for fatshaming

got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 27 August 2023 23:42 (seven months ago) link

Cute. Reminds me of that Fred Savage movie.

https://i.imgur.com/7oOZvds.png
https://i.imgur.com/NNa5ovj.png
https://i.imgur.com/c2oqWrj.png

lookin good very nice truck sir

lag∞n, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 17:13 (seven months ago) link

idk that back plate looks around 11 microns off to me

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 17:20 (seven months ago) link

idk, i heard that it was an 11 micron measurement that made Grimes leave him

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 17:29 (seven months ago) link

I think you mean eSports, a billion dollar industry. Maybe now that he's been mocked, Musk will buy all eSports for $100 billion and then put it out of business.

― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, August 27, 2023 6:26 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

esports at least in the u.s. (korea is probably more stable just due to the history there) it kind of a financial house of cards, it's really been decimated recently

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 17:46 (seven months ago) link

i dunno if it's joy div as much as it's

https://post-punk.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/public_image_ltd_metal_box.jpg

, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 18:03 (seven months ago) link

cold metal
when I start my van
cold metal
in my garbage can

hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 18:09 (seven months ago) link

I repeat, how is that a 'truck'

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 18:33 (seven months ago) link

its very big has a flatbed 4wd high clearance etc

lag∞n, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 18:36 (seven months ago) link

tho it does have a unibody which is anti truck, elon was claiming it was going to have a unique "exoskeleton" construction but that like many things he says turned out to be a lie

lag∞n, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 18:40 (seven months ago) link

Esports is quite one of those things I cannot wrap my mind around

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 19:42 (seven months ago) link

idk I'll watch people try to speedrun Mario 64 for an hour so I kinda get it

frogbs, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 19:47 (seven months ago) link

yeah i’m just deeply not a video games person— my main interactions have been with either the first two Mario games for Gameboy (the original) and Mariokart for N64. I like playing the latter but the whole thing— watching other people play video games— feels so abject and horrible to me, even in theory.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 19:53 (seven months ago) link

i mean, i like foosball way more than esports, but i don’t care about either, really.

I’m more fascinated by whether esports are easy to rig for gambling, because that seems like the real money?

you need magical thinking ay my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 20:00 (seven months ago) link

Does that cybertruck have duck tape holding two panels together?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 21:29 (seven months ago) link

kinda looks like it! maybe that's an optional extra

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 21:31 (seven months ago) link

gotta pay your monthly fee or else Elon will sneak into your garage at night and rip the duct tape off

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 21:44 (seven months ago) link

Tryna figure out who thinks that looks ok. Like it looks neither next level or quality. Like some kind of joke i just don’t get.

you need magical thinking ay my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 22:08 (seven months ago) link

hope it's flex tape at least

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 23:11 (seven months ago) link

they look like they're always gonna be kinda grubby

I think DeLorean clear-coated the stainless just for this reason

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 23:24 (seven months ago) link

This car is never going to production

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 23:36 (seven months ago) link

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

— Rian Johnson (@rianjohnson) July 11, 2023

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 31 August 2023 00:10 (seven months ago) link

In repsonse to...

Oh come the fuck on https://t.co/tdkwY6VINK

— Wampler™ (@ScottWamplerRIP) July 11, 2023

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 31 August 2023 00:10 (seven months ago) link

This car is never going to production

― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, August 30, 2023 7:36 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah i wonder if those big stainless steel panels will even meet the gov standards as far as crumpling in a crash and so forth, regardless pretty sure the shape with those sharp corners isnt compliant

lag∞n, Thursday, 31 August 2023 01:15 (seven months ago) link

how dare you question innovation

mookieproof, Thursday, 31 August 2023 01:19 (seven months ago) link

you know it was the last thing i wanted to do

lag∞n, Thursday, 31 August 2023 01:21 (seven months ago) link

The thing is, that stupid truck think is so totally Homer's dream car, but that is so otm and on the nose that we're all just wishing there is a better comparison, but no, that truck is akin to one of the (fictional) dumbest things of all time, but real life.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 August 2023 01:30 (seven months ago) link

Such a dolt. His existence is embarrassing on a global scale, a species scale.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 31 August 2023 01:36 (seven months ago) link

Meanwhile, Rivian just rolled out their dual-motor truck today. Overall a better alternative to the quadmotor Rivians and certainly far more useful than Elon's dumb truck.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 31 August 2023 14:38 (seven months ago) link

next they should roll out round headlights haha i joke but seriously they should

lag∞n, Thursday, 31 August 2023 14:40 (seven months ago) link

world historical cringe

budo jeru, Thursday, 31 August 2023 14:43 (seven months ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F42SKW8WMAABqJi?format=png&name=medium

lag∞n, Thursday, 31 August 2023 14:45 (seven months ago) link

poor volkswagen its tough out there, maybe stop doing fraud idk, but then u look at tesla and think maybe do more fraud

lag∞n, Thursday, 31 August 2023 14:47 (seven months ago) link

make self-gaslighting your brand

rob, Thursday, 31 August 2023 14:47 (seven months ago) link

my former coworker juiced VW so hard on trade-in when that fraud thing came through

they practically paid him to accept a new gti by the time the deal was done

mh, Thursday, 31 August 2023 15:03 (seven months ago) link

only do cool fraud

actual veggie mexican pizza received (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 31 August 2023 15:36 (seven months ago) link

Tesla superchargers on I5 powered by a diesel plant.

“One of the real tragedies of Tesla, in my personal opinion, is the extent to which well-meaning people were convinced that this company whose mission is in fact extreme wealth generation by any means necessary is somehow a force for good, to be supported like one would a real mission-driven nonprofit,” the investigative journalist wrote SFGATE.

https://www.sfgate.com/centralcoast/article/tesla-interstate-5-supercharger-power-plant-18343119.php

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 3 September 2023 15:09 (seven months ago) link

article does make it clear that all of this energy just goes into the grid in CA, and that these chargers aren't only powered by the energy source that was built to help support them, but the journalist's point there stands, I think.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 3 September 2023 15:18 (seven months ago) link

ah, but maybe it was biodiesel! (not likely)

fwiw, California’s Low Carbon Fuel Standard system is mostly gamed by swapping credits in a Musk-like fashion. most of the metrics mention the fuel is nearly all produced outside of California, but as far as I know, it’s also sold outside the state.
so someone incentivizes the production and sale of biodiesel or gasoline blended with ethanol and it’s produced, sold, and consumed elsewhere but a CA company buys the renewable energy credits and claims compliance

mh, Sunday, 3 September 2023 15:29 (seven months ago) link

Edward Niedermeyer is great on Tesla smoke-and-mirrors stuff - really enjoyed the War on Cars ep with him on.

got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 3 September 2023 15:36 (seven months ago) link

yeah def the most knowledgable tesla expert out there, including understanding the politics

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 September 2023 15:46 (seven months ago) link

this is frankly why any sort of shaming over EVs or etc is utter bullshit— such scolds should go work in a lithium or coltan mine.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 4 September 2023 11:33 (seven months ago) link

I'd been following a solar electric car company called Aptera for a bit, who seem to be actively encouraging comparisons to Tesla (probably to gin up investors), which makes me wonder if their claims of moderate commutes being totally powered by CA-level sunshine is similarly Musk-esque bluster.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 4 September 2023 16:08 (seven months ago) link

Elon Musk went from being the Henry Ford of our generation (admired carmaker, brilliant salesman) to being the Henry Ford of our generation (conspiracy theorist, Nazi-enabler)

— Frank Lesser (@sadmonsters) May 3, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 4 September 2023 17:18 (seven months ago) link

why do you need Kanye when Elon's around

Dragging all your former advertisers into discovery is totally going to win them back! Excellent move, sir pic.twitter.com/3TvdsrLvyL

— c a i t l i n (@hello__caitlin) September 4, 2023

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 03:38 (seven months ago) link

I wonder where Elon got the idea to shut down Starlink on the frontlines? https://t.co/i6LzgJwqSg pic.twitter.com/t5sAWITWNa

— Pekka Kallioniemi (@P_Kallioniemi) September 7, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 17:57 (seven months ago) link

where's the malay wet-ops arm of the cia when u need it most

mark s, Thursday, 7 September 2023 18:05 (seven months ago) link

release the ants lads

mark s, Thursday, 7 September 2023 18:06 (seven months ago) link

jfc

To everyone arguing against Tesla removing the gear shifter: what looks easier to you? pic.twitter.com/DwkmnAdv6D

— Jeff 💙✌️ (@JeffTutorials) September 5, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 21:59 (seven months ago) link

wait, is that how you change gears in a Tesla?!? Swiping on a screen?

Cow_Art, Thursday, 7 September 2023 22:34 (seven months ago) link

some ppl just love screen time

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 22:42 (seven months ago) link

It's certainly how you play Fruit Ninja.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2023 22:42 (seven months ago) link

back up buttons (not actual buttons)

Yes! Of course

Backup buttons illuminate when the screen loses power pic.twitter.com/zH0CdA6mCS

— Jeff 💙✌️ (@JeffTutorials) September 6, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 22:43 (seven months ago) link

on one hand I hardly ever need to shift quickly and on the other hand there are occasions where I need to deftly execute a three point turn and I shouldn’t have to look down at something during that

mh, Thursday, 7 September 2023 22:46 (seven months ago) link

I usually back into my driveway so I have to shift quickly - the dial transmission select on the Mach-E is very fast and I never have to look down

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 8 September 2023 04:08 (seven months ago) link

what’s a mach-e

vashti funyuns (sic), Friday, 8 September 2023 06:48 (seven months ago) link

Pixar took the plot of Cars but made it about jets

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 8 September 2023 07:02 (seven months ago) link

xps How’s the Mach-E been treating you, ET?

mh, Friday, 8 September 2023 13:50 (seven months ago) link

The Mach-E is Ford's electric Mustang, BTW.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 September 2023 16:09 (seven months ago) link

anyone read this ronan farrow piece?

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/28/elon-musks-shadow-rule

i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 8 September 2023 16:45 (seven months ago) link

Sometimes a mistake is much more than just a mistake. By not allowing Ukrainian drones to destroy part of the Russian military (!) fleet via #Starlink interference, @elonmusk allowed this fleet to fire Kalibr missiles at Ukrainian cities. As a result, civilians, children are…

— Михайло Подоляк (@Podolyak_M) September 7, 2023

groovypanda, Friday, 8 September 2023 18:05 (seven months ago) link

xps How’s the Mach-E been treating you, ET?

GREAT car. Zero regrets. Also biased because the charging infrastructure in California, despite the legitimate complaining, is pretty good.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 8 September 2023 22:32 (seven months ago) link

My wife has one of those cars, and she loves it, but apparently her biggest (negative) surprise was a limited turning radius. Or at least, more awkward than she expected for something so otherwise zippy.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 September 2023 22:35 (seven months ago) link

Ha, I meant to write my wife's *friend*!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 September 2023 22:35 (seven months ago) link

lol i thought this was a joking reference to the powerful mach 5

i am not a car guy

mookieproof, Friday, 8 September 2023 22:39 (seven months ago) link

Does Михайло Подоляк realize that Elon Musk was raised in South Africa in a family that wistfully views apartheid as the good old days of stable, orderly governance?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 8 September 2023 22:39 (seven months ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5mdLPPWkAA3LlM?format=jpg&name=large

lag∞n, Saturday, 9 September 2023 18:10 (seven months ago) link

Yes, Ellen, please tell us more about what is actually happening in public schools today, your finger is so on that particular pulse

It's really amazing to me how quickly I've gone from 'I have no opinion about that guy whose name I know' to 'that guy should get into an accident where he no longer has the ability to communicate with the other people in the world'. And all because that guy has been working overtime to completely sour every non-shit person's opinion of him. It's like the one thing at which he is an unalloyed success.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Saturday, 9 September 2023 19:00 (seven months ago) link

It’s the same thing with Trump. So much power and money; they can literally do ANYTHING.

And they spend their time being an internet troll. Fuck.

Cow_Art, Saturday, 9 September 2023 19:39 (seven months ago) link

Capitalism is bad, Communism is Good— little known Negativland remix

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 9 September 2023 20:10 (seven months ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5nAIr1XcAAs25U?format=jpg&name=small

lag∞n, Saturday, 9 September 2023 20:14 (seven months ago) link

I mean, he could turn his responsibilities to all of his businesses over to anyone else and they would do better, he could just go to Jamaica and party for the rest of his life. He could build an island palace and populate it with willing supermodels that he could pay to do his bidding. He could, oh, BETTER HUMANITY. He could make a solid gold butt-plug encrusted with precious jewels and give it to Kanye West as a gag gift. He could just fuck right off. UGH. How can somebody be so influential and important and so goddamned trifling at the same time, I don't understand it.

I need to spend less time online, I find myself getting worked up too much about people that I can do nothing about, that I shouldn't worry about. I can vote and volunteer to help local organizations, all this other stuff is garbage taking up mental space.

Cow_Art, Saturday, 9 September 2023 20:37 (seven months ago) link

He’s still seething about his trans commie daughter

Boris Yitsbin (wins), Saturday, 9 September 2023 22:27 (seven months ago) link

Things I just found out about this dork: he has ten (10) children. What is it with these alpha types jetting their spunk about all over the shop? See also: Johnson, B. No-one needed any more chips off this block.

I spent too long trying to write sensible SF (Matt #2), Saturday, 9 September 2023 22:42 (seven months ago) link

Eleven. He/Grimes just announced a third, named "Techno Mechanicus"

Or did I just make that up? 🤔

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 9 September 2023 22:49 (seven months ago) link

unsurprisingly he has a eugenicsy belief that the smart people need to reproduce in order to save the humanity go multiplanetary etc

lag∞n, Saturday, 9 September 2023 22:50 (seven months ago) link

Damn that kid is gonna wish they got the name X

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 9 September 2023 23:09 (seven months ago) link

Musk and Cheong are exactly the sort of men you’d find hanging around outside primary schools.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, 10 September 2023 00:00 (seven months ago) link

Here’s hoping all his kids go trans commie.

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 10 September 2023 01:19 (seven months ago) link

Or did I just make that up? 🤔

jfc I was really hoping you had...

octobeard, Sunday, 10 September 2023 01:37 (seven months ago) link

Grimes just wants to see the son she shares with ex-partner Elon Musk, but she says she’s being boxed out.

The “Oblivion” singer seems to have responded, in a now-deleted X post, to a self-promoting post from author Walter Isaacson about his new Musk biography, which featured photos of the SpaceX chief executive and Shivon Zilis, the mother of his recently born twins. Grimes pleaded in the tweet for the writer to relay a request to Musk about how he and Zilis have allegedly blocked the Canadian artist from seeing her son.

“Tell Shivon to unblock me and tell Elon to let me see my son or plz respond to my lawyer,” Grimes’ post read, per screenshots posted on Reddit. “I have never even been allowed to see a photo of these children until this moment, despite the situation utterly ripping my family apart.”

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2023-09-08/grimes-demands-elon-musk-let-her-see-son

sourcing maybe dubious on this one idk

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 September 2023 15:23 (seven months ago) link

“he’s my best friend and the love of my life, and my life and art are forever dedicated to The Mission now,” the 35-year-old wrote.”

you need magical thinking ay my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Sunday, 10 September 2023 16:28 (seven months ago) link

https://chnm.gmu.edu/worldhistorysources/images/mission.jpg

mark s, Sunday, 10 September 2023 16:35 (seven months ago) link

X aii xii and she-ra should be allowed to know their mom before they pupate

you need magical thinking ay my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Sunday, 10 September 2023 16:44 (seven months ago) link

_“he’s my best friend and the love of my life, and my life and art are forever dedicated to The Mission now,” the 35-year-old wrote.”_


Oh god.

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 10 September 2023 16:52 (seven months ago) link

does Grimes not have shared custody of her kid? I don't get it.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 10 September 2023 17:32 (seven months ago) link

life and art dedicated to the Mission UK. All over this wasteland.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 10 September 2023 17:32 (seven months ago) link

I *think* Grimes was saying she's not allowed to do stuff with her kids and Musk's other recent kids together. Either way sounds like she'll happily have a bunch more with the paranoid amoral choad.

nashwan, Sunday, 10 September 2023 18:23 (seven months ago) link

Remind me when these ppl are going to mars and taking off their helmets so their eyeballs pop

Boris Yitsbin (wins), Sunday, 10 September 2023 18:38 (seven months ago) link

i know go to mars already right

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 September 2023 18:42 (seven months ago) link

If you love the deadly inhospitable atmosphere of mars so much why don’t you get divorced by it

Boris Yitsbin (wins), Sunday, 10 September 2023 18:47 (seven months ago) link

If I’m reading this correctly (and the reported information is accurate), there were four simultaneous surrogacies. Two with the woman from Tesla that asked for his sperm because she admired him and two with Grimes.

Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 10 September 2023 18:59 (seven months ago) link

digraph Musk {
"Elon Musk" -> "Nevada"
"Elon Musk" -> "Vivian"
"Elon Musk" -> "Griffin"
"Elon Musk" -> "Kai"
"Elon Musk" -> "Saxon"
"Elon Musk" -> "Damian"
"Elon Musk" -> "X Æ A-12"
"Elon Musk" -> "Strider"
"Elon Musk" -> "Azure"
"Elon Musk" -> "Exa Dark Sideræl"
"Elon Musk" -> "Techno Mechanius"

"Justine Wilson" -> "Nevada"
"Justine Wilson" -> "Vivian"
"Justine Wilson" -> "Griffin"
"Justine Wilson" -> "Kai"
"Justine Wilson" -> "Saxon"
"Justine Wilson" -> "Damian"

"Grimes" -> "X Æ A-12"
"Grimes" -> "Exa Dark Sideræl"
"Grimes" -> "Techno Mechanius"

"Shivon Zilis" -> "Strider"
"Shivon Zilis" -> "Azure"
}

Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 10 September 2023 19:16 (seven months ago) link

he should just name them all after microsoft products

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 September 2023 19:43 (seven months ago) link

_“he’s my best friend and the love of my life, and my life and art are forever dedicated to The Mission now,” the 35-year-old wrote.”_

This seems to be intriguingly bad journalism in that the story linked (and the tweet in it) are from last year, when she was 33. So it uses house style to mask the fact that this is a (relatively) old opinion.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 10 September 2023 19:53 (seven months ago) link

story is a mess frankly

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 10 September 2023 22:09 (seven months ago) link

kinda feel bad for 'Damian'

nashwan, Sunday, 10 September 2023 22:17 (seven months ago) link

kinda feel bad for 'Damian'

nashwan, Sunday, 10 September 2023 22:17 (seven months ago) link

Damian, 668 the Number of the Breast

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 10 September 2023 22:29 (seven months ago) link

So I'm confused, has Grimes actually given birth to any of these kids herself?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 10 September 2023 22:55 (seven months ago) link

they hatched

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 10 September 2023 22:56 (seven months ago) link

i think she gave birth to the first one then the other two were via surrogates

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 September 2023 23:00 (seven months ago) link

Techno Mechanicus is likely a Warhammer 40,000 reference.

https://www.indy100.com/celebrities/elon-musk-techno-mechanicus-grimes

peace, man, Sunday, 10 September 2023 23:02 (seven months ago) link

Part of the ElonJizzAthon at yr local Tesla dealership.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 10 September 2023 23:02 (seven months ago) link

Saw someone suggest that Elon prefers IVF so that he can choose the sex of the child, which ... tracks.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 10 September 2023 23:04 (seven months ago) link

New season of Silicon Valley dropped

Remember all those technical glitches that caused Twitter to keep crashing around the new year, and also took down Musk’s Twitter Spaces with Ron DeSantis? Here’s what actually happened, according to @WalterIsaacson’s new book: https://t.co/tdcnAytHtG pic.twitter.com/Yez8TJmGHd

— Will Oremus (@WillOremus) September 10, 2023

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Sunday, 10 September 2023 23:11 (seven months ago) link

this guys not right

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 September 2023 23:40 (seven months ago) link

I don't believe that microdosing ketamine is working out for him

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 11 September 2023 00:21 (seven months ago) link

"Depression is overdiagnosed in the US, but for some people it really is a brain chemistry issue," Musk tweeted in the early hours of Tuesday morning. "But zombifying people with SSRIs for sure happens way too much. From what I've seen with friends, ketamine taken occasionally is a better option."

some people are just babies but i have an actual problem, which i self medicate, and sometimes i take the medication recreationally, also im the richest man in the world

lag∞n, Monday, 11 September 2023 00:24 (seven months ago) link

Really wish someone would make good on those assassination coordinates.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 11 September 2023 00:38 (seven months ago) link

@

some people are just babies but i have an actual problem, which i self medicate, and sometimes i take the medication recreationally, also im the richest man in the world

I'm a medical doctor. I own a mansion and a yacht.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 11 September 2023 00:42 (seven months ago) link

"Story continues below advertisement": Journalism in 2023 in four words.

read-only (unperson), Monday, 11 September 2023 01:50 (seven months ago) link

"zombifying people with SSRIs"

people who say stuff like this have clearly never taken an SSRI. They aren't fucking tranquilizers.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 11 September 2023 02:49 (seven months ago) link

Does Must ever not talk completely out of his ass about anything tho

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Monday, 11 September 2023 04:27 (seven months ago) link

"zombifying people with SSRIs"

people who say stuff like this have clearly never taken an SSRI. They aren't fucking tranquilizers.


Unlike ketamine!

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 11 September 2023 04:46 (seven months ago) link

"Story continues below advertisement": Journalism in 2023 in four words.

It was definitely better all those years before 2023 when journalism was not financed by advertisements.

Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Monday, 11 September 2023 09:32 (seven months ago) link

ya but they generally didn't used to have to sherpa you through the adverts to track down the actual writing so much

xl bully romance (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 11 September 2023 10:29 (seven months ago) link

if people were debating whether or not I was a Nazi sympathizer I'd maybe give it a while before bringing up the fact that I also tortured monkeys to death

frogbs, Monday, 11 September 2023 14:12 (seven months ago) link

tortured sick monkeys to death

lag∞n, Monday, 11 September 2023 14:13 (seven months ago) link

yeah but are you the richest man on Earth?

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 11 September 2023 14:20 (seven months ago) link

the more monkeys i torture the richer i get

lag∞n, Monday, 11 September 2023 14:40 (seven months ago) link

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/walter-isaacson-elon-musk-biography.html

they deserve each other

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 11 September 2023 15:13 (seven months ago) link

It’s kind of a tribute to the impotence of the current animal rights movement that this chaos isn’t having red paint dimpled on him continuously.

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 11 September 2023 15:19 (seven months ago) link

Chaos = choad

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 11 September 2023 15:20 (seven months ago) link

Dumped ugh

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 11 September 2023 15:20 (seven months ago) link

love to chaos dimple lol

lag∞n, Monday, 11 September 2023 15:22 (seven months ago) link

hello my evropa, my chaos dimple

difficult listening hour, Monday, 11 September 2023 15:24 (seven months ago) link

re: the isaacson / nymag profile

https://bsky.app/profile/sifu.tweety.fish/post/3k74x22voka22

"Shawn McCreesh is a 2015 St. John’s journalism program graduate who has quickly worked his way to the coveted position of editorial assistant to Maureen Dowd at the New York Times."

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 11 September 2023 15:50 (seven months ago) link

McSheesh

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 11 September 2023 16:09 (seven months ago) link

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/09/11/elon-musk-moved-twitter-servers-himself-in-the-night-new-biography-details-his-maniacal-sense-of-urgency.html

i only saw the tweet upthread not the excerpt so applogies if this is a repost

, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 02:10 (seven months ago) link

isaacson amending the claim in his own book that musk shut of starlink. great stuff.

https://www.todayintabs.com/p/walter-isaacson-and-the-power-of

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 03:03 (seven months ago) link

as much as I hate Elon, the Neocon framing of "Musk actually murdered Ukrainians by not enabling a military attack on Russia" is a bit much

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 14:02 (seven months ago) link

some people may be saying that but the more common point is maybe its not that good for this one rando to have that much power

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 14:03 (seven months ago) link

well yeah, but as far as I know he just got baited into offering the services on Twitter

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 14:10 (seven months ago) link

Don't think he bid for a contract or anything

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 14:11 (seven months ago) link

Yeah I love the framing of "Elon probably kept us out of a world war" — which is first of all almost certainly not true, but the better framing is "How the fuck did anyone let Elon get into a position to decide whether or not we have a world war?"

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 14:14 (seven months ago) link

article upthread about various high level government functionaries quaking in fear at the sound of his name is wild stuff

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 14:18 (seven months ago) link

Don't think he bid for a contract or anything

― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, September 12, 2023 10:11 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh well if theres no contract lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 14:21 (seven months ago) link

I mean he volunteered to offer the service with the caveat that it not be used for offensive operations. If the US or Ukraine wanted an offensive system they would have set one up.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 14:30 (seven months ago) link

How this dipshit still manages to convince so many people to continually cape for him in the year 2023 will never cease to amaze me.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 14:34 (seven months ago) link

I mean he volunteered to offer the service with the caveat that it not be used for offensive operations. If the US or Ukraine wanted an offensive system they would have set one up.


Are you being serious?

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 14:35 (seven months ago) link

fuck off table

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 14:39 (seven months ago) link

maybe this one dumb bad guy shouldnt control all this stuff based on his drug and sleep deprived moods idk

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 14:40 (seven months ago) link

exactly.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 14:40 (seven months ago) link

+ ideas from the worst people in the world

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5b0TdmXYAAkIdI?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 14:43 (seven months ago) link

There was an NYT story a few weeks ago about what a shitshow it was to have a private citizen in charge of a shifting battle zone. Ukranian general were constantly on the phone to Musk requesting the service to be turned off or on in different areas depending on who was in control of what town or terrain.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 14:45 (seven months ago) link

they should send someone to kill him imo

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 14:45 (seven months ago) link

Musk should not be in the position to make these decisions, but the US, which is dumping billions into the war, has chosen to rely on him.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 14:46 (seven months ago) link

smiley and felix leiter sat across from bond discussing ian miles cheong: "the licence just doesn't cover this, shir"

mark s, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 14:52 (seven months ago) link

yeah wonder how exactly that happened, starlink is a one of a kind network much faster than the geosynchronous options, and then he just kinda offered it to ukraine, seems like it was convenient but came with some issues too lol xp

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 14:54 (seven months ago) link

us gov can beam some internet down from planes but thats a whole thing that they would rather not be involved in im sure

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 15:00 (seven months ago) link

fuck off table


I honestly couldn’t tell, enjoy your FP

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 15:02 (seven months ago) link

Starlink entry on Wikipedia has now got me reading about Brilliant Pebbles which paved the way for Fucking Magnets.

nashwan, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 15:16 (seven months ago) link

xpost Sorry for lashing out Table

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 15:29 (seven months ago) link

all good Pres, despite our past disagreements and butting heads i harbor no ill will toward you, just fyi.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 15:32 (seven months ago) link

same here

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 15:33 (seven months ago) link

tbh the pop of ilx is so low now i'm guessing nobody could be fp'd off the site anymore

Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 15:36 (seven months ago) link

Serious question, since I've either never been FP'd (seems unlikely) or just don't know how it works — do you get notification of FPs? Or is it just that if there are sufficient #s the mods do something?

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 15:42 (seven months ago) link

the latter

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 15:44 (seven months ago) link

So kind of a Star Chamber system huh. Terrifying.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 15:53 (seven months ago) link

we have no choice but to abide by our shadowy overlords

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 15:56 (seven months ago) link

i’m not totally sure but i think the late great got
tempbanned over that kerfuffle

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 15:57 (seven months ago) link

no, he didn't

I Wanna Find an ILXor That'll Flag My Last Post Till I Have To Go (WmC), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 16:33 (seven months ago) link

Early days of Ukraine war had quite a few posters get temp banned, it's still possible you just need to work with the zeitgeist.

fwiw tipsy there's a thread where you can ask how many FPs you got and the mods will tell you.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 18:14 (seven months ago) link

We cannot inform you of the charges against you. Prepare your defense.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:36 (seven months ago) link

elon seems overextended.

treeship., Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:54 (seven months ago) link

fwiw tipsy there's a thread where you can ask how many FPs you got and the mods will tell you.

lol some things it's better not to know.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:06 (seven months ago) link

maybe this one dumb bad guy shouldnt control all this stuff based on his drug and sleep deprived moods idk

I don't know if that New York Magazine piece on Isaacson/his Elon bio was discussed here but it's really jarring and kind of bizarre how almost sycophantic an attitude he takes towards Musk at times, but then he will casually drop things like "yeah, it's a shame he has zero empathy" or "yeah, his pedophile tweets are kind of off-putting" (the latter I guess a reference to when he accused the Thai cave rescue guy of being a pedophile?) He also muses that all geniuses or great dudes (and presumably the one lady he wrote about?) are driven to accomplish great things by their personal demons, with a sort of implication that Elon has the potential to be the most godlike genius ever precisely because he has so many issues and is such a fucked-up guy.

I'm maybe sloppily paraphrasing him here, but it's a weird read altogether!

dell (del), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 00:52 (seven months ago) link

well they dont give you access if youre not a sniveling lil toad i guess

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 00:58 (seven months ago) link

Ha... the other layer to it is that the New York writer seems to go out of their way to paint Isaacson as being such a great guy, and going into the article having known almost nothing about him I was honestly having trouble figuring out if my overall negative reaction to him (Isaacson) was due to Isaacson as a person, or weariness at the writer's lavish encomium of him, Isaacson's attitude towards Musk, or just my own personal bad weather Sept. 11th Monday spleen.

dell (del), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 01:14 (seven months ago) link

theres daisy chain of butt sniffing happening

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 01:23 (seven months ago) link

Apparently!

I think his lack of empathy is a deeply unattractive trait. I also think that he would not be who he was in terms of the enterprises if he hadn’t had the deficit of the empathy gene.”

I guess the actual quote is worse than what I made it sound like in my post up there. It's almost like "I for one welcome our new sociopathic billionaire overlords!" Yes, granted people like him are truly monstrous in their approach to the world and other people, but hey it's a small price to pay for progress ;)

dell (del), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 01:29 (seven months ago) link

That's the price we pay for . . . whatever Elon has given the world.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 01:30 (seven months ago) link

*checks notes* shitty cars and letting nazis on twitter

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 01:31 (seven months ago) link

Yes, granted people like him are truly monstrous in their approach to the world and other people, but hey it's a small price to pay for progress

This seems to be the approved line re: Musk among the Davos class; Neil DeGrasse Tyson, who I think used to be a scientist, said the same thing on a podcast interview this week. Of course, to quote William S. Burroughs (I know, I know), "No job too dirty for a fuckin' scientist."

read-only (unperson), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 01:40 (seven months ago) link

Thank god for progress (rich guys firing things into space for no reason while everything crumbles)

Boris Yitsbin (wins), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 05:25 (seven months ago) link

"Early days of Ukraine war had quite a few posters get temp banned, it's still possible you just need to work with the zeitgeist."

Temp banned twice here, and I'd agree. Pick your moment and go with God.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 06:06 (seven months ago) link

[Stares into the camera] pic.twitter.com/PZrtNA8FQl

— Zito (@_Zeets) September 13, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 15:05 (seven months ago) link

thats something

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 15:36 (seven months ago) link

why does it say he was born in "$"

mark s, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 15:41 (seven months ago) link

(the original says pretoria)

mark s, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 15:44 (seven months ago) link

Progress would be rich guys being fired into the sun.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 15:47 (seven months ago) link

Elon Musk was born in $crooge McDuckia

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 15:48 (seven months ago) link

I'm still not over "I am the alpha in this relationship"

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 15:59 (seven months ago) link

fuck this twat

.⁦@elonmusk, on ⁦@theallinpod⁩: “I think I understand China well…”

Then proceeds to compare Taiwan to Hawaii: “an integral part of China that is arbitrarily not part of China”

He’s repeating CCP talking points with no mention of US interests. pic.twitter.com/93V6lCOuVR

— Michael Sobolik (@michaelsobolik) September 13, 2023

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 21:57 (seven months ago) link

Most inarticulate fuck i’ve ever heard

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 23:45 (seven months ago) link

i think i understand china well i say what they want and they let me do business there

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 September 2023 00:20 (seven months ago) link

he has a special deal other car manufactures in china have to be 50% chinese owned but tesla can just do what they want

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 September 2023 00:23 (seven months ago) link

it's always shocking to me how childish, stupid, and sloppy he is

treeship., Thursday, 14 September 2023 00:38 (seven months ago) link

it's worth noting that the Communist Party of China has never ruled Taiwan - if anything the island could be considered a liberated post-colony of the old China, but never a part of the People's Republic, fuck off elon

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 14 September 2023 00:47 (seven months ago) link

he never knows what the fuck he is talking about

treeship., Thursday, 14 September 2023 00:48 (seven months ago) link

He might want to ask some Hawaiians how they feel about all this.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 14 September 2023 02:48 (seven months ago) link

That famously "integral" part of a country that is mostly on a landmass 2,500 miles away.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 14 September 2023 02:49 (seven months ago) link

I remember hearing this guy speak in like 2017 and could not believe how unprepared and tired he seemed. serious "didn't actually read the book" vibes. his brain is just a rat in a really tight maze unable to see more than a foot ahead

frogbs, Thursday, 14 September 2023 02:51 (seven months ago) link

I mean he spent decades surrounding himself with people who were willing to take every idiotic thing that came out of his mouth seriously and reward him with hundreds of millions in government money I genuinely think that kind of shit warps your melon

frogbs, Thursday, 14 September 2023 02:54 (seven months ago) link

Elon vs. China hawks is a no-win scenario.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 14 September 2023 03:06 (seven months ago) link

You're Elonin' My Melon Man

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 14 September 2023 03:22 (seven months ago) link

3 sentences before we hit lazy empty mental health slurs, kudos

whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 September 2023 21:45 (seven months ago) link

You mean this?

Throughout the tome, Musk’s confidantes, co-workers, ex-wives and girlfriends present a DSM-5’s worth of psychiatric and other theories for the “demon moods” that darken the lives of his subordinates, and increasingly the rest of us, among them bipolar disorder, OCD, and the form of autism formerly known as Asperger’s. But the idea that any of these conditions are what makes Musk an “asshole” (another frequently used descriptor of him in the book), while also making him successful in his many pursuits, is an insult to all those affected by them who manage to change the world without leaving a trail of wounded people, failing social networks and general despair behind them.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 September 2023 21:51 (seven months ago) link

no i'm sorry you're right it's ok to use aclinical mental health slurs about bad people

whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 September 2023 21:57 (seven months ago) link

He’s talking about what people interviewed in the book say about Musk. But ok.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 September 2023 22:01 (seven months ago) link

He also says that explaining away Musk’s evil with clinical theories is an insult to people with these conditions.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 September 2023 22:03 (seven months ago) link

i would simply avoid echoing this nonsense by focusing on Musk's existence as an avatar of the hegemonic socioeconomic system but

whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 September 2023 22:05 (seven months ago) link

Yeah, you should never talk about what's actually in a book when reviewing it. That's just rude to imaginary internet people whose feelings might be hurt.

read-only (unperson), Thursday, 14 September 2023 22:52 (seven months ago) link

How Couples Argue Today:

Wife: cool how theres 4 mustards in the fridge in 2018 and none go with my sandwich. Normal World

Husband: wow its almost like those are my dipping mustards and arent meant to go on sandwiches????????? but ok go off

— Jumbo josh_ATF (@AnimeSerbia) July 15, 2020

Bongo Jongus, Thursday, 14 September 2023 23:43 (seven months ago) link

Important development: Senate Dems are demanding that the Pentagon turn over information about Elon Musk's Starlink contracts with the US military, to investigate whether there are safeguards in them to prevent another version of Musk's recent fiasco.https://t.co/TKMBwu7pAt pic.twitter.com/JINXfMrW0y

— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) September 15, 2023

lag∞n, Saturday, 16 September 2023 14:35 (seven months ago) link

they shd just drone strike this guy

lag∞n, Saturday, 16 September 2023 14:35 (seven months ago) link

Too bad his body doesn’t produce a heat signature

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 16 September 2023 15:24 (seven months ago) link

elmo is gonna post an “all of your base” meme isnt he

you need magical thinking ay my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Saturday, 16 September 2023 16:09 (seven months ago) link

Meanwhile over at the genius summit

Touché https://t.co/w58XhgEeSD

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) September 17, 2023

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 18 September 2023 00:39 (seven months ago) link

1000%

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) September 17, 2023

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 18 September 2023 01:35 (seven months ago) link

lmao the celebrity cameo in this one

Elon Musk revisiting an idea apparently floated privately in the past -- charging *everyone* to use Twitter. A lower tier than premium. "We’ve moving to a small monthly payment for use of the X system," he just told Benjamin Netanyahu, saying it's only way to stamp out bots.

— Dave Lee (@DaveLeeBBG) September 18, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 18 September 2023 17:36 (seven months ago) link

Netayahu just flew here to the Bay Area to meet with Elon, for god knows what

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 18 September 2023 17:43 (seven months ago) link

benjamin net and yahoo

ciderpress, Monday, 18 September 2023 17:48 (seven months ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Monday, 18 September 2023 17:52 (seven months ago) link

Elon destroying the bots like Howard Hughes killing all the germs in his apartment

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 18 September 2023 17:56 (seven months ago) link

Absolutely not paying for social media.

But he hasn't killed the block function so...seeing is believing.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 September 2023 18:36 (seven months ago) link

Yeah and surely any remaining ad revenue would be decimated

groovypanda, Monday, 18 September 2023 19:11 (seven months ago) link

50 cents per post
$2 if you want anyone to see your post
$5 for a racist post
$10 if you want Elon to call your post interesting

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 18 September 2023 19:20 (seven months ago) link

$50 if you wanna have Elon's baby

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 September 2023 19:21 (seven months ago) link

there is little to no reason to believe anything this guy says about anything he intends to do

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 18 September 2023 19:21 (seven months ago) link

Trying to implement significant changes would probably break the app too.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 September 2023 19:36 (seven months ago) link

I'm still waiting for him to rescue those Thai kids with a pedo-proof submarine.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 September 2023 19:40 (seven months ago) link

Musk told the Israeli prime minister that with 100m-200m posts on X in a day, “some of those are gonna be bad”

Musk when asked about his own posts

nashwan, Monday, 18 September 2023 19:55 (seven months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xccaLNJli6U

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 September 2023 20:01 (seven months ago) link

charging every user would at least solve the problems they created when they halved the capacity of the backend by shutting down the sacramento datacenter.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 September 2023 20:06 (seven months ago) link

yeah lol

lag∞n, Monday, 18 September 2023 20:40 (seven months ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6WFS4uWAAMf1Ci?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Monday, 18 September 2023 23:34 (seven months ago) link

there is little to no reason to believe anything this guy says about anything he intends to do

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, September 18, 2023 2:21 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

He’s actually implemented a lot of his dumb Twitter ideas though

frogbs, Monday, 18 September 2023 23:36 (seven months ago) link

Netanyahoo just came to check out the new DeLorean

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 18 September 2023 23:48 (seven months ago) link

since he's implemented every other bad idea he's had i'm gonna start trying to actually use bluesky this time around, i've got some spare invites so dm if you still need one buddies https://t.co/MHUQgB94AO

— Ashley Feinberg (ashleyfeinberg.bsky.social) (@ashleyfeinberg) September 18, 2023

Gotta give Elon credit where it's due: this is a very funny own https://t.co/W5YP31htXQ

— Ashley Feinberg (ashleyfeinberg.bsky.social) (@ashleyfeinberg) September 19, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 01:12 (seven months ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6kTJyVWQAEzCyw?format=jpg&name=large

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 September 2023 17:49 (seven months ago) link

isaacson writes that this was a masterful gambit sir

mark s, Thursday, 21 September 2023 17:54 (seven months ago) link

Tell me you're in a cult without telling me you're in a cult.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 September 2023 18:01 (seven months ago) link

It will be interesting to watch Musk's 900 children battle each other to become God-King

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 September 2023 18:08 (seven months ago) link

I'm imagining Grimes commanding an army like Alexander the Great's mother

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 September 2023 18:09 (seven months ago) link

i find elon's approach to fatherhood to be disgusting.

treeship., Thursday, 21 September 2023 18:10 (seven months ago) link

His office mini-fridge must be a real horror show.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 21 September 2023 18:25 (seven months ago) link

but it was the inspiration for the cyber truck

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 September 2023 18:26 (seven months ago) link

He also keeps the horse embryos in there so he can thaw them out and exchange them for handjobs

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 September 2023 18:38 (seven months ago) link

what an absolute fckn spanker

(à propos of nothing, it just rose unbidden to my fingertips)

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 21 September 2023 22:50 (seven months ago) link

It will be interesting to watch Musk's 900 children battle each other to become God-King

Add in his followers as "tarnished" and we got a plot for Elden Ring 2

octobeard, Thursday, 21 September 2023 23:23 (seven months ago) link

ay, at one point in this spiral grimes has a comment like "i don't expect normal people to understand" and you know what?

you need magical thinking ay my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Thursday, 21 September 2023 23:28 (seven months ago) link

Elon Ring 2

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 22 September 2023 01:36 (seven months ago) link

His office mini-fridge must be a real horror show.

but it was the inspiration for the cyber truck



this just made me absolutely lose it good work all

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 22 September 2023 02:23 (seven months ago) link

Elmo is certainly starting to gain the lumpen potatoey countenance of Mohg.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 22 September 2023 04:49 (seven months ago) link

this dude is so hopelessly pathetic

That was fast pic.twitter.com/ztYxN53P6Z

— Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) September 23, 2023

frogbs, Saturday, 23 September 2023 04:29 (seven months ago) link

what a dork

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 September 2023 04:50 (seven months ago) link

What a fucking dork. Both of them.
https://davekarpf.substack.com/p/elon-musk-and-the-infinite-rebuy

There’s a scene in Walter Isaacson’s new biography of Elon Musk that unintentionally captures the essence of the book:

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"Levchin was at a friend’s bachelor pad hanging out with Musk. Some people were playing a high-stakes game of Texas Hold ‘Em. Although Musk was not a card player, he pulled up to the table. “There were all these nerds and sharpsters who were good at memorizing cards and calculating odds,” Levchin says. “Elon just proceeded to go all in on every hand and lose. Then he would buy more chips and double down. Eventually, after losing many hands, he went all in and won. Then he said “Right, fine, I’m done.” It would be a theme in his life: avoid taking chips off the table; keep risking them.
-----

That would turn out to be a good strategy. (page 86)

There are a couple ways you can read this scene. One is that Musk is an aggressive risk-taker who defies convention, blazes his own path, and routinely proves his doubters wrong.

The other is that Elon Musk sucks at poker. But he has access to so much capital that he can keep rebuying until he scores a win.

Isaacson, our narrator, doesn’t grasp the difference. He doesn’t understand poker well enough to recognize Musk as the grandstanding sucker at the table. So he portrays Musk’s complete lack of impulse control as a brilliant, identity-defining strategic ploy. (If you go all-in and lose six times, then go all-in a seventh time and win, then you’re still down five buy-ins.)

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 25 September 2023 20:54 (seven months ago) link

if he really is just shoving every single hand you can't even say he "sucks at poker". he's not even playing the game. just mindlessly gambling at a huge disadvantage. and if he left right after doubling up which is the point where you can actually make people nervous that's even dumber.

frogbs, Monday, 25 September 2023 21:15 (seven months ago) link

needs a 'game theory' tweet rn

, Monday, 25 September 2023 21:16 (seven months ago) link

elon played hold 'em as a child but found it too simple to be useful in real life: a mere 2 personal cards, no random map or spawn position, only 10 players, etc.

omaha hi-lo addresses these limitations

Clay, Monday, 25 September 2023 21:32 (seven months ago) link

that story makes no sense you cant just double down in poker the most you can win in a hand is the amount your opponents have and you need their cooperation for that they can just fold

lag∞n, Monday, 25 September 2023 21:39 (seven months ago) link

also memorizing cards has no value in hold em the only cards you see are the ones youll be able to see the whole hand

lag∞n, Monday, 25 September 2023 21:42 (seven months ago) link

i mean you could go all in every hand but you will probably lose

lag∞n, Monday, 25 September 2023 21:45 (seven months ago) link

well I've heard of home games where you can buy in up to the biggest stack but something tells me the author here doesn't know anything about poker or gambling either and is using the term "double down" incorrectly. I kinda have doubts he's just shoving every hand but I can totally see him getting all-in with the worst of it over and over again

frogbs, Monday, 25 September 2023 22:30 (seven months ago) link

Lose five hands, win one, declare victory.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 25 September 2023 22:31 (seven months ago) link

you miss 100% of the hands you don't go all-in on

symsymsym, Monday, 25 September 2023 22:43 (seven months ago) link

i could see him shoving every time to show that he doesnt care about being good at poker which he obviously does

lag∞n, Monday, 25 September 2023 22:59 (seven months ago) link

Isaacson cites this 'Levchin' as his sole informant for this story, which he appears to deliver mostly unaltered. Apparently neither of them knows anything about poker.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 25 September 2023 23:05 (seven months ago) link

that story makes no sense you cant just double down in poker

ppl misuse the term "double down" but there is a betting strategy across all games that says if you lose, double your wager on the next hand, I guess if you have unlimited funds this is a totally workable strategy?? I think that is what people mean by it

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 02:50 (six months ago) link

you're talking about the Martingale strategy. that wouldn't really work in poker though. if you lose 5 buyins chances are it's not gonna be to the same player 5 times. so you couldn't really make it all back in one hand. also typically in poker there's a limit to how much you can buy in for in a cash game. though I'm guessing they suspend that rule for Elon Musk

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 02:59 (six months ago) link

even if you could buy in for whatever you want the double bet doesnt necessarily exist, its not like roulette where the house will just take whatever action

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 03:11 (six months ago) link

"Great meeting with the President of Hungary about the population collapse crisis!"

this man is a nazi.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 14:50 (six months ago) link

"I don't actually have any cash on me, but I can put up several vials of my sperm as collateral."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 14:51 (six months ago) link

having started replaying the video game Cyberpunk 2077, I have been reminded that at the beginning of the game you're asked whether you'd like to live a quiet life or go out in a blaze of glory

apparently Elon crashed his then-girlfriend's voice recording session for the game...

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 18:42 (six months ago) link

Apparently they patched any mention of him out of the game since?

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 20:05 (six months ago) link

he was never in the game https://www.pcgamer.com/no-that-wasnt-elon-musk-in-cyberpunk-2077-says-senior-quest-designer/

That wasn't Elon musk, it looks nothing like him

Who came up with this nonsense? https://t.co/usPO94IFhD

— Patrick K. Mills (@PKernaghan) September 22, 2023

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 20:09 (six months ago) link

yeah, he was never in it despite his epic attempts to get included

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 20:17 (six months ago) link

I muted this pretty quickly. I may have ended up spreading misinformation, but a couple of videos and articles said that the guy on the left was a Musk cameo a couple of weeks before 2.0 released and they did end up changing it so regardless of intent it is funny.

— Virus_Kid (@_Virus_Kid_) September 22, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 20:25 (six months ago) link

so regardless of intent it is funny

is it tho

Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 20:31 (six months ago) link

everything is funny now :|

mark s, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 20:38 (six months ago) link

laughing crying emoji

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 20:39 (six months ago) link

Weird silence from him on his new preferred party trying to cripple his main business. Weird silence from Republicans on the fact that their hero owns an EV company. Weird. https://t.co/SVVnNLCMSc

— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) September 28, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 September 2023 21:40 (six months ago) link

Isn’t SpaceX his biggest biz

blurry picture of mostly amorphous feelings (Hunt3r), Friday, 29 September 2023 02:47 (six months ago) link

regardless of intent it is funny

new board description obv

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 29 September 2023 02:53 (six months ago) link

Seems like Elon Musk's brain worms really kicked into high gear overnight. pic.twitter.com/CP9zFArbnp

— Eliot Higgins (@EliotHiggins) October 2, 2023

groovypanda, Monday, 2 October 2023 05:44 (six months ago) link

In 2018, I filed the first defamation lawsuits against Alex Jones, ultimately discrediting him in court. Today, I am proud to announce I have filed suit against yet another notorious disseminator of false information: The owner of this platform, Elon Musk. pic.twitter.com/YpvTz2JxBp

— Mark Bankston (@BankstonAtLaw) October 2, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 15:24 (six months ago) link

rip Bankston's twitter account

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 2 October 2023 15:30 (six months ago) link

get elons ass

lag∞n, Monday, 2 October 2023 15:42 (six months ago) link

A friend saw him stuck in gridlock traffic the other day and thought about defacing his douchemobile truck but realized there's probably security detail running in parallel.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Monday, 2 October 2023 16:11 (six months ago) link

is it a cybertruck?

blurry picture of mostly amorphous feelings (Hunt3r), Monday, 2 October 2023 16:27 (six months ago) link

I was driving my son and two other 8 yos around this weekend and they were talking about Teslas non-stop.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 2 October 2023 16:32 (six months ago) link

That lawyer's thread is worth reading, if one is able or so inclined.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 16:42 (six months ago) link

I was driving my son and two other 8 yos around this weekend and they were talking about Teslas non-stop.


i salute your fortitude. seriously.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 2 October 2023 18:56 (six months ago) link

how do they feel about roblox?

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 2 October 2023 19:07 (six months ago) link

They program their own obbys

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 2 October 2023 19:09 (six months ago) link

is it a cybertruck?

― blurry picture of mostly amorphous feelings (Hunt3r), Monday, October 2, 2023 9:27 AM (eight hours ago)

Yes

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 00:31 (six months ago) link

Looks like Grimes is suing to gain access to her children (might have been hinted at in the Grimes thread a week or two ago, I forget)

https://www.sfchronicle.com/entertainment/article/grimes-elon-musk-custody-dispute-18404323.php

octobeard, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 22:08 (six months ago) link

Having kids entirely via IVF and surrogacy seems like something a man with a tiny dick would do.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 00:08 (six months ago) link

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/was-elon-musks-strategy-twitter-rcna118490

adam, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 00:26 (six months ago) link

XP I imagine 44 billion could have bought/engineered him an amazing penis.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 01:51 (six months ago) link

A cyberpenis, even.

Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 01:55 (six months ago) link

But doing so would entail admitting his own shortcomings.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 03:19 (six months ago) link

Let's just say anyone who has sex with him has to have a 10 micron tolerance

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 03:36 (six months ago) link

BAM

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 04:28 (six months ago) link

I’m still trying to process that a man who has 10 kids may still be a virgin.

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 07:24 (six months ago) link

That NBC news article misleads the right wing site to mean almost the opposite of what it says.

formerly abanana (dat), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 21:36 (six months ago) link

Yeah, that was weird

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 22:57 (six months ago) link

suspended for using the recent stripping-out of headlines from news stories to call elon a pedo (he can dish it out but he can't take it, you will be startled to learn)

https://t.co/pXb8Ni91qA pic.twitter.com/bRxMVvtDda

— depths of wikipedia (@depthsofwiki) October 11, 2023

https://t.co/pXb8Ni91qA pic.twitter.com/bRxMVvtDda

— depths of wikipedia (@depthsofwiki) October 11, 2023

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junlper#Suspension_from_Twitter

mark s, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 09:41 (six months ago) link

ugh the first of those was meant to be this (guess who i blame)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8Hy0mNW4AEEjUe?format=jpg

mark s, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 09:43 (six months ago) link

Elon Musk acted like a 'little baby' and was 'almost in tears' on Tesla's 'terrible' earnings call, analyst says https://t.co/aQgEPRK8P0

— Insider Business (@BusinessInsider) October 22, 2023

frogbs, Monday, 23 October 2023 14:34 (six months ago) link

lol the investors are mad at Musk because he said this:

Musk suggested at one point on the call that he was delaying the factory in light of rising interest rates, which make borrowing more expensive. "If interest rates remain high or if they go even higher, it's that much harder for people to buy the car. They simply can't afford it," Musk said, pointing to the impact on monthly car loan payments.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 23 October 2023 14:38 (six months ago) link

He created company value based on pure fiction in an attempt to hold the line until they could actually be profitable, and now the investors are angry he's stating fact. Kind of dug his own grave on that one

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 23 October 2023 14:40 (six months ago) link

That's usually when these guys fail, when the bullshit stops.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 23 October 2023 14:41 (six months ago) link

"If interest rates remain high or if they go even higher, it's that much harder for people to buy the car. They simply can't afford it," Musk said, pointing to the impact on monthly car loan payments.

lol. the monthly payment on a new tesla is down compared to a year ago.

IMO Elon is overplaying the macro card. For anyone who wants to know whether $TSLA monthly payments are higher or lower than where they were 12-15 months ago, put into your HP12C these scenarios:

- 15 mos ago: Model Y $65K with 10% down, 3.9% auto loan rate over 60 months.…

— Gary Black (@garyblack00) October 20, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 23 October 2023 14:47 (six months ago) link

So the price dropped 15K in the past 15 months?

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 23 October 2023 14:53 (six months ago) link

of that model in the US, yes. i think that's one of the more extreme examples tbf but they've been dropping prices to juice sales all year. CW is that they should be advertising and distance themselves from their insane nazi founder instead, neither of which they do.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 23 October 2023 15:03 (six months ago) link

they get a lot of coverage in the finance and tech spaces but not the "guy just looking for a car" spaces

that and their sales model is completely different in the US than any other automotive brand. apparently they do have a store and service center in my area now but I had no clue! I just pulled up the site to see if they let you test drive a car, and every single time block is open today

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 23 October 2023 15:19 (six months ago) link

It's actually kind of fucked up the EV market, as I understand it. When Tesla cut prices the biggest effect was that it dropped the bottom out of the used EV market and lots of EV drivers lost thousands in value, especially those that purchased new. Granted, I suppose anyone that pays a premium for a car, any car, understands they lose value as soon as you drive off the lot, but Tesla's desperate price slash really accelerated depreciation, hurting even those with generous loan terms.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 October 2023 15:26 (six months ago) link

Elon Musk was slapped with a community notes for his latest anti-American tweet. pic.twitter.com/FPFae8AA2a

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) October 28, 2023

I love getting Noted – proves that no one is free from being corrected!

This is obviously a joke meme, but there is more than a grain of truth to it. We should aspire to see things from the point of view of others.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 28, 2023

groovypanda, Sunday, 29 October 2023 05:32 (five months ago) link

Possibly the least-asinine meme Musk has posted in his life.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 29 October 2023 05:34 (five months ago) link

Obviously a joke meme=I was just kidding, gawd, can't you take a joke?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 October 2023 13:47 (five months ago) link

gotta rule for musk on this one, the image is using hyperbole to make a joke... and indeed a point --community note

lag∞n, Sunday, 29 October 2023 13:51 (five months ago) link

also his original post doesnt currently have a community note on it

lag∞n, Sunday, 29 October 2023 13:52 (five months ago) link

i know the US is a unique country with its own exceptional culture but why the fuck does every bit of hype this clown runs for his trucks involve firing weapons at them?

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 20:58 (five months ago) link

very cool

Joe Rohan shatters an arrow on Cybertruck that would easily go through a normal car pic.twitter.com/XSMjnoE5Xp

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 31, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 21:20 (five months ago) link

the next time your shopping run takes you thru the Battle of Hastings

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 21:24 (five months ago) link

the mail must go through

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 21:26 (five months ago) link

Joe, King of Rohan

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 21:43 (five months ago) link

Joe Rohan!

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 22:19 (five months ago) link

I suspect I'll never see a cybertruck out on the street

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 22:20 (five months ago) link

If you do, burn that fucker (if it hasn't already set fire to itself).

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 00:42 (five months ago) link

I rented a car for the week on Sunday. They asked me if I wanted a Tesla at no additional charge. I just said no.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 00:46 (five months ago) link

big blade runner fan

https://i.imgur.com/JunYXlD.png

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 02:27 (five months ago) link

Blade Runner was not a guy, it was a job that the guy in the movie had, this is like saying it's the car Taxi Driver would have driven

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 02:49 (five months ago) link

Which I guess it is, now that I think about it

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 02:49 (five months ago) link

you mean a taxi

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 02:49 (five months ago) link

Bladerunner vs. Taxidriver

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 02:52 (five months ago) link

thinking the main character of blade runner is named bladerunner really jumps out at you but the added detail that he thinks bladerunner drives drive an armored personnel carrier makes me think he maybe hasnt seen the movie, but does know it concerns the future and that its very cool

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 02:55 (five months ago) link

does he think that blade runner serves in the future army as a driver, cause thats not that cool, or that he just drives or "would drive" an army truck because hes such a bad ass, but idk driving an army truck thats specifically designed to carry a bunch of guys as your daily just seems kind of odd, also the cyber truck is not designed to carry a bunch of guys

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 03:01 (five months ago) link

Elon would not pass the Voight-Kampff

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 04:04 (five months ago) link

a Tesla at no additional charge

tbf it would be unable to move I guess

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 04:17 (five months ago) link

why the fuck does every bit of hype this clown runs for his trucks involve firing weapons at them?

https://i.redd.it/8yuht4ob4k9b1.jpg

baths in the belfry (cat), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 06:01 (five months ago) link

blade runner in his cybertruck, ppl

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MxPCc8wGN6o/VHmgkxiS5GI/AAAAAAAAMUU/zGd88nft-hI/s1600/total-recall-3.jpg

mark s, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 09:27 (five months ago) link

getting excited that you've managed to make a fictional dystopia a little more real

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 09:31 (five months ago) link

If it resembles anything in shape, it's the carrier from Aliens?

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 12:34 (five months ago) link

Yeah, it's totally what Aliens would drive, not Bladerunner, this asshole has never seen a movie. Now, it does look a little like what Bladerunner flies, but this Musk monstrosity does not fly, which is why it's an instant fail. But Elon, if you're listening, a flying car would be dope, you should shift all your time and money to that.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 12:41 (five months ago) link

iirc the part of the movie where they say the name of the movie out loud is this scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2fVUCgnW_o

the lack of punctuation could also mean that elon is simply referencing the book from which the movie gets its name but not plot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bladerunner

, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 12:46 (five months ago) link

That's wild, I didn't know that. So weird that the title came from a different book, even though the movie has absolutely nothing to do with that book, or title.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 12:52 (five months ago) link

I'm a little surprised Musk didn't put a turret on his.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:24 (five months ago) link

should at least have an option for a bracket

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:27 (five months ago) link

Elon's interest in science fiction movies and video games, etc. is a lot more lore-focused than plot-focused. And by that, I mean he probably owns a lot of the ridiculously expensive scale models of vehicles and guns from science fiction works.

I guarantee you he owns one of those "recreation of Deckard's pistol" props that people sell for over a grand. He posted some "this is the stuff on my nightstand" picture and iirc it included some prop anime gun. And he took a non-functioning 200 year old flintlock pistol to try to talk his way into appearing in a video game.

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:28 (five months ago) link

he undoubtedly talks about his "bladerunner gun" a lot. you know, wielded by bladerunner in the movie

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:28 (five months ago) link

imagine jihadists trying to use one of these thing where are you even gonna charge it gimmie a break

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:29 (five months ago) link

we should be doing the obvious thing: talking him into waiting to deploy the cybertruck until it can be powered off of compact hydrogen fuel cells or cold fusion so it can work indefinitely in the desert or on the terrain of mars

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:30 (five months ago) link

the cybertruck on the terrain of mars, ppl

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MxPCc8wGN6o/VHmgkxiS5GI/AAAAAAAAMUU/zGd88nft-hI/s1600/total-recall-3.jpg

mark s, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:43 (five months ago) link

Elon owns the 1/6th scale torment nexus model from the famous movie adaptation of the torment nexus and wants to build a real one. No, he has not actually watched the whole movie

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 16:20 (five months ago) link

Now I really wish I had a blue check account to ask him if he's tried shooting the cybertruck with Bladerunner's gun

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 16:21 (five months ago) link

a true philanthropist

A year later, Musk is now claiming that he was actually compelled to buy Twitter — now X — out of an overriding sense of civic duty, because he needed to save civilization itself from a potentially overwhelming "mind virus" propagated by the company's San Francisco headquarters.

Rogan asked Musk, "What was it ultimately that led you to make the decision to do it?" As in, buy Twitter.

There was no mention of last year's impending legal battle. Instead, he said, "This is going to sound somewhat melodramatic, but I was worried that (Twitter) was having a corrosive effect on civilization. That it was just having a bad impact. Part of it is where it's located, which is downtown San Francisco. While I think San Francisco is a beautiful city — and we should really fight hard to kind of right the ship of San Francisco — if you walk around downtown San Francisco right near the X fka Twitter headquarters, it's a zombie apocalypse."

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 23:05 (five months ago) link

He starts off talkong about homeless people in san francisco but it quickly becomes clear that he's talking about lgbt+ people. He used San Fran because his mind is stuck in the 1970s apparently.

adam t. (abanana), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 23:16 (five months ago) link

Take a wild guess which company was the largest employer in that area (mid-market) that just so happened to lay off 83% (+?) of their workforce in the past 13 months... What an absolute dolt.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 23:21 (five months ago) link

San Francisco being the favorite target of right-wing troglodytes who are obsessed with human feces.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 23:23 (five months ago) link

and to correct, Elon... Twitter is located *near* downtown SF (2-3 neighborhoods southwest), in an area where under previous management could build cheaply and receive massive tax breaks from city government, in such an area which guess what, was skid row before twitter and will be skid row when twitter has gone to the social media graveyard.

Twitter couldn't afford downtown SF which is why they ended up on 10th/Market, former home of a cockroach-laden buffet and budget motel.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 23:30 (five months ago) link

(sorry if that comes off as "old money" but there is a bit of history lacking from Elon's shit-take)

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 23:32 (five months ago) link

So bought it to destroy it? He bought it to save it? what the fuck is his point

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 23:34 (five months ago) link

and to correct, Elon... Twitter is located *near* downtown SF (2-3 neighborhoods southwest), in an area where under previous management could build cheaply and receive massive tax breaks from city government, in such an area which guess what, was skid row before twitter and will be skid row when twitter has gone to the social media graveyard.

Twitter couldn't afford downtown SF which is why they ended up on 10th/Market, former home of a cockroach-laden buffet and budget motel.


I used to work at the Hot Spot— I met my husband there. Miss that shithole and the other shitholes around it.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 2 November 2023 00:44 (five months ago) link

he tried very hard not to buy it! whatever he claims his point was hardly seems to matter.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 November 2023 02:27 (five months ago) link

How much walking around in downtown SF does Elon actually do?

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 2 November 2023 03:09 (five months ago) link

he takes his jet to the corner store

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 November 2023 03:12 (five months ago) link

such an area which guess what, was skid row before twitter and will be skid row when twitter has gone to the social media graveyard

this is absolutely true. even when everyone worked downtown pre pandemic, that stretch of market was miserable. lots of downtown SF is miserable now, but musk owning twitter hasn't done anything to improve it, indeed, his laying off tons of people has probably made things worse as now there are fewer customers to frequent the businesses around the office.

anyway why do I care what this dumb fuck thinks, everything he says is wrong and is always wrong.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 2 November 2023 03:15 (five months ago) link

everything he says is wrong and is always wrong.

this has been proved by science -- the science of seeing the obvious

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 2 November 2023 03:19 (five months ago) link

thinking Deckard's name is Bladerunner actually feels like one of the more Trumpian things Elon has said

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 18:32 (five months ago) link

like how Kanye used to call Chris Martin "Coldplay"

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 18:33 (five months ago) link

Which one’s Pink?

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 18:34 (five months ago) link

not well, stayed back at the hotel with his cybertruck

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 19:08 (five months ago) link

Young Rust

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 19:15 (five months ago) link

In one particularly alarming anecdote, the writer recounts how during one "spiral," Musk freaked his employees out so bad by locking himself in his office that they "were considering calling a wellness check by the San Francisco police because they thought he was going to self-harm himself."

https://futurism.com/the-byte/twitter-staff-wellness-check-elon

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 21:56 (five months ago) link

That freakout seems to have begun, Mezrich explained, with other incidents — including him getting booed at a Dave Chappelle show last December and someone confronting a car carrying his son around that same time. Both demonstrated how much people have grown to despise the serial entrepreneur who once inspired "Iron Man," and contrary to his devil-may-care attitude, Mezrich argues that Musk is very sensitive to what people think about him.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 21:59 (five months ago) link

He could have swan dived off that giant X he put up illegally.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 22:19 (five months ago) link

thats what i would do if i were booed at the big comedy show

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 22:36 (five months ago) link

"hi 911"

"yes, Elon Mask is in his office, we think he might harm himself"

"we're sending help ASAP-"

"help is already here, I was just wondering if you could send them home"

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 22:55 (five months ago) link

Getting wellness-checked by one’s own employees is certainly one way to do a coup d’etat

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 23:07 (five months ago) link

kinda figured getting booed at Chappelle's show was a big moment for him. he probably gets that he's not exactly universally well-liked but getting shunned by that particular crowd probably stung a lot

frogbs, Thursday, 9 November 2023 00:46 (five months ago) link

yeah getting invited up there was prob the coolest shit for him then he gets booed instant reversal of fortune

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 November 2023 00:48 (five months ago) link

Pretty predictable too I mean he was definitely a shitty dude before but getting made fun of for the Thai cave rescue sub is where his villain arc really began

frogbs, Thursday, 9 November 2023 00:54 (five months ago) link

It really was, wasn't it?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 November 2023 01:09 (five months ago) link

contrary to his devil-may-care attitude, Mezrich argues that Musk is very sensitive to what people think about him

no way!

symsymsym, Thursday, 9 November 2023 01:23 (five months ago) link

Wow so at odds with my footloose-n-fancy free image of Elon, he always seems so chill, just lets things roll right off him.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 9 November 2023 01:26 (five months ago) link

much to think about

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 November 2023 01:27 (five months ago) link

xxxpost Villain arcs usually END with submarines

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 November 2023 01:49 (five months ago) link

the submarine thing was really the beginning of it and was also the period of time when a lot of my moderately liberal friends still liked Elon

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 November 2023 04:30 (five months ago) link

That fucking car looks like it'd kill someone even if it bumped them at low speed. Not to mention it is absurdly large, t'fuck is with all thes monster cars these days?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 9 November 2023 05:48 (five months ago) link

ain't that america

mookieproof, Thursday, 9 November 2023 08:59 (five months ago) link

who once inspired "Iron Man,"

Stan Lee, Larry Lieber, Don Heck and Jack Kirby would like a word.

Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Thursday, 9 November 2023 10:04 (five months ago) link

that was a weird and silly thing to claim yes, since the comic character predates the birth of the second-richest blight by some eight years

i guess (as a veteran of many a fact-check conversation) it's not *impossible* that such elements of the downey-era portrayal as don't predate do fit this description

mark s, Thursday, 9 November 2023 10:14 (five months ago) link

also: something ultra-musky abt a supervillain that doesn't even bother building the mini-submarine his villainy fully demands

mark s, Thursday, 9 November 2023 10:15 (five months ago) link

damn

GPTs can save a lot of effort: pic.twitter.com/VFIrGzPuMN

— Sam Altman (@sama) November 10, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 10 November 2023 00:27 (five months ago) link

An Elon Musk biopic is reportedly in the works at A24 with Darren Aronofsky set to direct.

(https://t.co/4qCXV4fOz3) pic.twitter.com/fNnEYSeav0

— Film Updates (@FilmUpdates) November 10, 2023

Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Friday, 10 November 2023 13:10 (five months ago) link

He should play himself.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 November 2023 13:15 (five months ago) link

Requiem for a Meme

groovypanda, Friday, 10 November 2023 13:46 (five months ago) link

mother******!

Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Friday, 10 November 2023 13:48 (five months ago) link

sheer howling desolation

https://i.imgur.com/ndnvzDL.png

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 10 November 2023 14:10 (five months ago) link

you are so funny you should die in horrible agony sir

mark s, Friday, 10 November 2023 14:30 (five months ago) link

A screendoor on a submarine!

xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 November 2023 14:40 (five months ago) link

difficult to know whether getting bodied by sam altman is worse for his psyche than getting booed at chappelle.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 10 November 2023 14:40 (five months ago) link

Explains why he couldn't rescue those Thai kids then xp

groovypanda, Friday, 10 November 2023 17:25 (five months ago) link

if you shoot an Elon Musk biopic and you add a death scene in the movie do he die in real life

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 November 2023 17:27 (five months ago) link

a friend who went to film school with Aronofsky says "ugh, a perfect match"

bulb after bulb, Friday, 10 November 2023 17:41 (five months ago) link

I wonder which Hollywood actor is going to allow their face to be flattened by an iron in order to look like Musk

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 10 November 2023 17:47 (five months ago) link

Austin Butler might work if he gets his face smooshed up a bit.

that's when I reach for my copy of Revolver (WmC), Friday, 10 November 2023 17:49 (five months ago) link

I bet Musk could talk for hours about how much he loves Pi.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 10 November 2023 17:55 (five months ago) link

And then name a kid after it

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 10 November 2023 17:57 (five months ago) link

Austin Butler might work if he gets his face smooshed up a bit.

― that's when I reach for my copy of Revolver (WmC), Friday, November 10, 2023 12:49 PM bookmarkflaglink

featuring Tom Hanks as Grimes, to keep the pair together

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 November 2023 18:15 (five months ago) link

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/

Reuters documented at least 600 previously unreported workplace injuries at Musk’s rocket company: crushed limbs, amputations, electrocutions, head and eye wounds and one death. SpaceX employees say they’re paying the price for the billionaire’s push to colonize space at breakneck speed.

rob, Friday, 10 November 2023 18:36 (five months ago) link

what did they think "breakneck" meant

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 November 2023 18:40 (five months ago) link

It’s right on the tin

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 10 November 2023 18:44 (five months ago) link

you guys didn't click through huh :(

rob, Friday, 10 November 2023 18:52 (five months ago) link

yikes, no I didn't, but immediately regret making that statement now that I just did! :(

in all seriousness, this is the part of Elon's "piece-of-shittery" that I wish got talked about more. not that it's not important to call him out for his anti-Semitism, racism, transphobia, and the other things he does, but word about him as a neglectful employer has been pretty loud for years, and so many assholes chalked it up to "geniuses can be hard to work for sometimes, idk what to tell you".

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 November 2023 19:01 (five months ago) link

yeah absolutely, especially since one of the previous major stories about his terrible management was about how rampantly racist the Tesla Fremont plant was, which was well before he took over twitter. His "rightward turn" was pretty easy to predict

rob, Friday, 10 November 2023 19:55 (five months ago) link

wait is CIDERTRUKK not a Tesla? It's like it's own thing?

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 10 November 2023 21:43 (five months ago) link

nobody in FL gonna drive that, you can't put a Salt Life sticker on it

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 November 2023 21:46 (five months ago) link

god, it's so ugly. It's not even "child draws their dream car" ugly, it's "tell an AI chatbot to design a car in Mindcraft" ugly.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 10 November 2023 21:48 (five months ago) link

if Homer Simpson had trotted this car out instead, his brother would have shot him on sight

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 November 2023 21:50 (five months ago) link

Looks like it was designed by Henry Rollins in Johnny Mnemonic

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 10 November 2023 21:58 (five months ago) link

the tires don't look very standard... I'll be you only buy them at CYDRTRUXX retailers

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 10 November 2023 21:59 (five months ago) link

Reuters documented at least 600 previously unreported workplace injuries at Musk’s rocket company including crushed limbs, amputations, electrocutions and one death. SpaceX employees say they’re paying a heavy price for the billionaire’s push to colonize space at breakneck speed.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 10 November 2023 22:01 (five months ago) link

Looks like it was designed by Henry Rollins in Johnny Mnemonic

Bruce Levenstein did that one better -- he shared this image with the line "My Uber is here."

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:6txvdz7iius6z56uyymsxkzz/bafkreicamz63eu67zoddanep4pjxlf66vr5oc6bifz2j2yn6sai7fgukey@jpeg

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 November 2023 22:02 (five months ago) link

CYDERPUNKK
CYDERSEXX
CYDERKKAFFE
CYDERSPACE

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 10 November 2023 22:04 (five months ago) link

JFK
BLOWN AWAY

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 November 2023 22:19 (five months ago) link

How do u cyber with this truck, asking for a horny friend

Material Wetness (Old Lunch), Saturday, 11 November 2023 00:12 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/2365FxE.jpg

mookieproof, Saturday, 11 November 2023 02:29 (five months ago) link

This guy sucks but he’s not wrong about polytopia (iOS). I’m playing it again. Such a great game. Easily better than chess.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 11 November 2023 14:51 (five months ago) link

spoken like someone who hasnt spent the last half hour learning life lessons from solving pin pattern puzzles

lag∞n, Saturday, 11 November 2023 15:13 (five months ago) link

ok I spent half the day playing Polytopia and I’m going to rate it “kind of ok”

everything is too small and fiddly

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 12 November 2023 02:23 (five months ago) link

i remember it being more legible on old iphones. i wonder if it needs some kind of update for higher res screens?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 12 November 2023 02:44 (five months ago) link

can i say something about games here so many games are just complicated, getting good at them is learning the rules, game as a tutorial

lag∞n, Sunday, 12 November 2023 02:47 (five months ago) link

shouldve put a "these days" in there no old games are like that

lag∞n, Sunday, 12 November 2023 02:48 (five months ago) link

you can teach a kindergartener the rules to chess

lag∞n, Sunday, 12 November 2023 02:52 (five months ago) link

i have some longtime friends who became deep, deep boardgame people and i swear the appeal for them is mostly just new toys, new tokens and figures and little cards to read with each and every game

call all destroyer, Sunday, 12 November 2023 03:01 (five months ago) link

yeah they buy these games and play them once, whats that

lag∞n, Sunday, 12 November 2023 03:03 (five months ago) link

that game wingspan is absolute dogshit but it is a nice object tbf. i got it as a gift and played it once.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 12 November 2023 03:11 (five months ago) link

Contemporary board games peaked with Settlers of Catan.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 12 November 2023 03:26 (five months ago) link

No they didn’t

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Sunday, 12 November 2023 03:29 (five months ago) link

settlers is good but *turning to the fellas* its not a good as poker

lag∞n, Sunday, 12 November 2023 03:31 (five months ago) link

Okay, Steve Albini

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 12 November 2023 03:59 (five months ago) link

not gonna sit here and argue with success know what im sayin fellas

lag∞n, Sunday, 12 November 2023 04:05 (five months ago) link

its the lag∞n martingale fellas

mark s, Sunday, 12 November 2023 09:33 (five months ago) link

Musk named one of his children after a Warhammer 40,000 army.

Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 12 November 2023 15:12 (five months ago) link

Pandemic rules but woo boy not wanted to play it for a while. Ticket to Ride is ace, tho we don't own it and only play it with friends. Galaxy Trucker is better than Chess.

Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Sunday, 12 November 2023 21:47 (five months ago) link

I’ve made the mistake of getting into Star Wars: Legion.

It’s fun to have little Hoth dudes to paint

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 12 November 2023 23:55 (five months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyvyhkF8Xr4

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 13 November 2023 04:09 (five months ago) link


that game wingspan is absolute dogshit but it is a nice object tbf. i got it as a gift and played it once.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, November 11, 2023 10:11 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

I bought this to play with my daughter when it came out because she's a nature kid, and it looked cool as hell. We made it about halfway through the instructions. We were going through her old toys this weekend and that one was straight into the giveaway pile.

peace, man, Monday, 13 November 2023 12:39 (five months ago) link

I like wingspan

nxd, Monday, 13 November 2023 12:43 (five months ago) link

I have it too! Played it once! It was good but it has a half-hour setup!

Then I bought Birdwatcher, which

imago, Monday, 13 November 2023 12:49 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/sij5hel.png

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 16:19 (five months ago) link

lol I just saw that on Bluesky and thought "lagoon is going to love this"

rob, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 16:21 (five months ago) link

haaa

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 16:22 (five months ago) link

btw just noticing how tiny that rear window is, guess there must be sacrifices to look very cool

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 16:35 (five months ago) link

also wasnt this thing supposed to be huge why is the bed so small, a tacoma (mid size pickup) could easily fit that bike in its bed

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 16:38 (five months ago) link

ok i have done my research and the "production" model is smaller than the prototype, its kind of in between full size and mid size but has a larger than other pickups passenger area, think of it as a big subaru baja except uglier

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 16:42 (five months ago) link

my entire skin surface twinges every time i see a picture, those edges are sharp, i will cut myself if i just walk near one

mark s, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 17:10 (five months ago) link

yeah supposedly the first ones are going to be delivered this month but they dont look like theyre up to safety regs, cars arent supposed to have sharp corners like that

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 17:16 (five months ago) link

lol nice

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 17:28 (five months ago) link

It looks like one of those things where they build something exactly as a child has drawn it, to show how silly it would look in real life.

epistantophus, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 17:29 (five months ago) link

thats actually what happened

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 17:29 (five months ago) link

lol

epistantophus, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 17:31 (five months ago) link

lol

epistantophus, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 17:31 (five months ago) link

ugh thanks phone

epistantophus, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 17:32 (five months ago) link

I'm a little surprised Musk didn't demand they give it triangle shaped wheels.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 18:31 (five months ago) link

The semi-octagonal fenders look like a joke. And it looks like it will bottom out going over speed bumps.

epistantophus, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 18:36 (five months ago) link

Musk already got his engineers working on the next iteration
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81yYWBGq3gL.__AC_SX300_SY300_QL70_FMwebp_.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 18:44 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/2eR6ORb.png

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 19:58 (five months ago) link

https://townsquare.media/site/698/files/2017/12/Bike-Dumpster.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 20:00 (five months ago) link

musk will never in a trillion years build anything as cool as the tarkus tank

mark s, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 20:01 (five months ago) link

xpost Say it louder so that he can hear you.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 20:03 (five months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNbxA66wQ0c

mark s, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 20:06 (five months ago) link

no gatepad why you wanna break your 10k s-works

digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 20:28 (five months ago) link

i mean this is a person who has a cyber truck

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 20:30 (five months ago) link

josh lmao

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 20:38 (five months ago) link

he continues to innovate

Tesla Cyberbeer is hot garbage. Not only is the lid RUSTED but the beer is also nasty. This was a miss @elonmusk pic.twitter.com/Gb9u8YOc7X

— Brian Stone (@briandstone__) November 15, 2023

Because I paid $75 per bottle. I forced myself to drink it all

— Brian Stone (@briandstone__) November 15, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:44 (five months ago) link

i can give myself a little tetanus as a treat

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:46 (five months ago) link

lol

c u (crüt), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:47 (five months ago) link

did they just have a lil homebrew set up at tesla hq or something, its not like they couldnt have gotten a professional brewery to make them a good beer and put a cyber label on it, i guess thats not a disruptive process tho

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:49 (five months ago) link

Musk is probably dumb enough to think beer improves as it gets older and has had it sitting in shelves for like 8 years

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:50 (five months ago) link

Musk drinks beer like he smokes weed.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:54 (five months ago) link

time to innovate by making a nasty beer, no one ever did thst before

mark s, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:55 (five months ago) link

It looks like one of those things where they build something exactly as a child has drawn it, to show how silly it would look in real life.

― epistantophus, Tuesday, November 14, 2023 9:29 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5f/48/0d/5f480ddd03461829281d9b58b60c082c.jpg

omar little, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:58 (five months ago) link

I'm honestly surprised that Elon's piss only costs $75/bottle.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 19:12 (five months ago) link

Adding insult to injury, buying one probably puts you on the list for a Cybertruck purchase.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 19:18 (five months ago) link

showing feet on X for elon musk's pee-beer? couldn't be me

, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 19:30 (five months ago) link

Wow, didn't realize that CyberBeer is real: https://cyberbeer.tesla.com/

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 19:40 (five months ago) link

Every time I open this thread and it stays at the top, there's a brief, wistful moment where I imagine the days back when I was able to echo this post:

Who he?

― Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, October 31, 2012 4:40 PM (eleven years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 19:43 (five months ago) link

Boy I dunno

I had to check this was real, but Elon is actually replying approvingly to a guy arguing "Hitler was right" because Jews are pushing "hatred against whites". pic.twitter.com/jkbr6bNDeG

— Quantian (@quantian1) November 15, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 22:43 (five months ago) link

wtf

treeship., Wednesday, 15 November 2023 22:46 (five months ago) link

i think he should removed

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 22:47 (five months ago) link

elon musk is worth over 200 billion dollars. much of this wealth was built through the US government investing in his companies. the US is a country he immigrated to. as the owner of twitter he is probably the most influential single individual in terms of shaping media narratives. (arguable). and yet, he feels he is being oppressed by "jews"

treeship., Wednesday, 15 November 2023 22:51 (five months ago) link

remarkable

treeship., Wednesday, 15 November 2023 22:51 (five months ago) link

the replies on that elon tweet are horrific. actual neo nazis, many of them with celebrity names and blue checks next to their name.

treeship., Wednesday, 15 November 2023 23:15 (five months ago) link

That's it, I'm canceling my cybertruck order.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 23:45 (five months ago) link

*pours rusty beer in the trash*

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 16 November 2023 00:07 (five months ago) link

Musk's control of the Starlink communication satellites is more troublesome to me than his control of Xitter. Low earth orbital space is a highly limited resource that he has squatted in and there's currently no remedy in international law to evict him.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 16 November 2023 03:30 (five months ago) link

its always amusing to me how stupid the Cybertruck looks in actual photos because I actually thought the prototype looked somewhat cool. like yeah if I saw one pull up to me I'd at least gawk at it. but when you see the actual thing its hard not to laugh it looks like an RC car that got recalled for injuring children

frogbs, Thursday, 16 November 2023 03:45 (five months ago) link

It reminds me of the shop sink we had in high school.
https://static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/Grainger/13G609_AS01

nickn, Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:07 (five months ago) link

All teslas look terrible. I am not a car guy, but I can tell that other luxury cars look much nicer than the weirdly monolithic teslas.

treeship., Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:12 (five months ago) link

I find it annoying he appropriated nikola tesla’s name. Should be called carX or some shit

treeship., Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:12 (five months ago) link

he didn't, Tesla existed before he "founded" it by paying the actual founders a bunch of money for the title

frogbs, Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:13 (five months ago) link

Ah didn’t know that.

treeship., Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:15 (five months ago) link

and yes they dont look great in fact they all kinda look like 2005 Nissans to me. also the interiors look like shit, I mean I know I'm a hater but seriously it looks like model furniture from WG&R inside those

frogbs, Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:15 (five months ago) link

theyre so bad, absolute sucker shit

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:17 (five months ago) link

They’re everywhere around where I live. To be fair, BMW drivers are bigger jerks, even though their cars are far more attractive.

treeship., Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:17 (five months ago) link

I admit they are fun to drive and have seriously insane pickup which you'll probably never have to use but as someone who's also ridden in them a bunch it often occurs to me that whoever designs them wasn't concerned for anyone but the driver. its not just uncomfortable it's also really aesthetically ugly when you're in the backseat

frogbs, Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:18 (five months ago) link

Once I slowed down to let a BMW driver merge into traffic and he *still* flipped me off. I think it was a way of expressing a general hatred of everyone, even (especially?) people who do what he wants.

treeship., Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:19 (five months ago) link

Back to teslas — i anecdotally have heard of people using the “autopilot” feature to get home when shitfaced drunk. It is not at all safe to use it this way, as far as I know. Why did regulators allow it to go to market?

treeship., Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:21 (five months ago) link

these things are effectively unregulated afaict

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:22 (five months ago) link

Absolutely bananas

treeship., Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:23 (five months ago) link

I've often wondered if stuff like lane deviation warnings and radar cruise have made it harder to identify drunk drivers

frogbs, Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:26 (five months ago) link

yeah prob

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:27 (five months ago) link

All cars should come with the BAC blower interlocks and if you blow over the limit it should kill you

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:29 (five months ago) link

Where’s that innovation Elon?!?

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:29 (five months ago) link

these are the bold ideas we need in these troubled times

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:31 (five months ago) link

he'd probably just make it play Rick Astley while you were driving. I wanted to say Yakety Sax but that's actually kinda funny and not quite as beaten into the ground so it's not really Elon's style

frogbs, Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:34 (five months ago) link

Other electric cars also have insane acceleration, and aren't cunts.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 16 November 2023 05:34 (five months ago) link

My family and I were upgraded to a BMW on a recent vacation and my god, I loved driving that car. I had never driven one before. It was incredible.

Of course, I will never be able to afford one, but….

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 16 November 2023 12:28 (five months ago) link

Yeah, you can absolutely tell that BMW is putting the driving experience at the forefront of their decision process

the new drip king (DJP), Thursday, 16 November 2023 12:33 (five months ago) link

Exactly. BMW interiors feel so cheap compared to their competitors.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 16 November 2023 12:40 (five months ago) link

I’d say more simple than cheap? Austere but durable is a choice and BMWs feel like that to me. Teslas come off as more austere but cheap imo, I have no idea if the seats are more likely to rip or the plastic shows more scuffs or whatever but they feel like you’re in a early 00s Saturn

I hate having all kinds of controls on a screen but it’s funny how other luxury brands do all kinds of weird angles, trim inlays, and wonky control systems (looking at you, weird Lexus moving touchpad thing that’s getting phased out) to seem more expensive

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 16 November 2023 13:34 (five months ago) link

All cars should come with the BAC blower interlocks and if you blow over the limit it should kill you


not a farfetched idea in elon’s native homeland of south africa

, Thursday, 16 November 2023 14:04 (five months ago) link

isn't that where someone was trying to sell some anti-carjacking system that had flamethrowers?

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 16 November 2023 14:34 (five months ago) link

every other car in the bay area is a tesla and I honesty don't have any issue with the drivers of those vehicles (also I drive a bmw and do not drive like a jerk). the worst drivers around here are in fucked up old kias, because they are 12 years old and they just carjacked it and are going 100mph in a 25mph zone.

I've ridden in teslas plenty and they are fun but I would absolutely never buy one because a) musk b) reputation for their quality is awful.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 16 November 2023 14:40 (five months ago) link

kia boys still out there? damn

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 16 November 2023 14:54 (five months ago) link

honestly driving in the bay area is kind of a pain in the ass because I'm convinced 75% of the people driving are high and just don't pay attention anymore (some guy drove into me at 2mph a few months ago, was stoned out of his mind, and then drove off while we were exchanging info)

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 16 November 2023 15:01 (five months ago) link

Kias definitely are a thing again but it's hard to recognize them because the logo looks like "KN"

frogbs, Thursday, 16 November 2023 15:04 (five months ago) link

lol one of the wildest branding choices

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 November 2023 15:05 (five months ago) link

oh I don't mean a preponderance of kias. I mean the kia boyz

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 16 November 2023 15:14 (five months ago) link

oh yeah that is definitely still happening, because I don't think Kia or Hyundai fixed the issue for owners

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 16 November 2023 15:23 (five months ago) link

new kia logo is great, so \m/

i wouldn’t say no to a kia stinger

, Thursday, 16 November 2023 15:42 (five months ago) link

I ended up with an iX as a loaner while some work was being done on my car and I would not call the interior of that car cheap-looking at all

I also would not buy it because I like regular meals, but man was that a nice car

the new drip king (DJP), Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:04 (five months ago) link

It's been a couple years since I've been in one, but BMW seemed to skimp on things like electric seat adjustments where they seem pretty standard in equivalent Audi and Mercedes. Also, hated some of their control/layout choices.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:25 (five months ago) link

absolutely no shade on anyone here, there's not much else to say, but the richest person in the world, who now controls one of its most influential media channels, is an openly anti-semitic conspiracy theorist. seems like this should be receiving more attention in the press.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:28 (five months ago) link

certainly more attention than gaza-related campus cancellations, etc.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:29 (five months ago) link

I'm not really sure what he's saying. Seems like some theory that Jewish people push the woke mind virus on Whites to make them depressed.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:37 (five months ago) link

yeah real its bad he should be put in a cubby

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:37 (five months ago) link

xp https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/11/elon-musks-disturbing-truth/676019/

(here is a link to the press after i complained this was not receiving enough coverage)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:38 (five months ago) link

however all the german lux brand interiors are prob pretty comparable, tho they each have their own style so its kinda a matter of taste, and the more entry level ones are not as nice as the more expensive one, tho theyre all pretty nice, especially new ones, feel like with new cars in general interiors are pretty effin good, with the exception of putting too much stuff in the touch screen, and maybe having to much stuff to control in general that will break eventually, pickups are the best for just having big physical buttons, theyre like these are big dumb guys theyre gonna want to push a large button with their fat fingers, which really thats all anyone wants

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:40 (five months ago) link

oh I don't mean a preponderance of kias. I mean the kia boyz

― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, November 16, 2023 9:14 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I saw in St. Paul once this newer kia with this laminated basically FAQ card taped up in the window saying this is a newer model that doesn't not have the engine immobilizer flaw that Kia model years XXXX-XXXX have blah blah blah haha i'm assuming they'd had their window broken a few times

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:45 (five months ago) link

my gf had her car broken into twice (attempted thefts) and stolen once in like three months last summer

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:46 (five months ago) link

btw i just looked and all the big three german brands entry level cars come with front power seats, you might be able to get some racing seats optional that are manual for weight reasons, but thats be a rare performance set up on one of their special fast cars

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:49 (five months ago) link

I have a Hyundai which is going through the same thing and as a result of the recall upgrade to fix the security flaw they put a sticker in the window advertising the upgraded security and part of me wonders "is this just like daring someone to try?"

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:59 (five months ago) link

its funny that no cars used to have that anti theft technology and people werent just steeling them like crazy but the fact that one type of car doesnt have it now has really captured the imagination of the youth

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:11 (five months ago) link

(to be clear my gf's car was a kia in question, she had to get rid of it in a small town in wisconsin where the kia boyz hadn't hit yet - someone we know's bf ended up not being able to get insurance on a kia after it was stolen three times)

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:14 (five months ago) link

absolutely no shade on anyone here, there's not much else to say, but the richest person in the world, who now controls one of its most influential media channels, is an openly anti-semitic conspiracy theorist. seems like this should be receiving more attention in the press.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, November 16, 2023 11:28 AM (forty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes, and the specific conspiracy he is boosting -- the idea that jewish people are supporting "mass immigration" to america with the intention of causing "white genocide" -- is the same exact conspiracy theory that motivated the pittsburgh synagogue shooter.

treeship., Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:14 (five months ago) link

it doesn't get much worse. i have no idea what to do with this information.

treeship., Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:14 (five months ago) link

my friend had a elantra from that era but his was the kind that wasn't susceptible to the attack

didn't stop somebody from breaking in, trying it, and leaving behind a usb cable

, Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:15 (five months ago) link


I have a Hyundai which is going through the same thing and as a result of the recall upgrade to fix the security flaw they put a sticker in the window advertising the upgraded security and part of me wonders "is this just like daring someone to try?"

― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Thursday, November 16, 2023 10:59 AM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i'd leave it, i think the insane easiness of it was the thrill tbh, these kids aren't stealing other types of cars i doubt, it's basically like someone left a bicycle unlocked on a rack let's take it for a spin type mentality

the one time it was stolen they didn't even take anything out of the car just drove it and left it somewhere

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:15 (five months ago) link

new hyundais and kias are ok, right? my old impreza is on its last legs and suddenly i am feeling too cool to be driving a subaru.

treeship., Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:17 (five months ago) link

don't tell my impreza i said this.

treeship., Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:17 (five months ago) link

what kind of impreza do you have?

, Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:23 (five months ago) link

are there awd hyundai kias

digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:24 (five months ago) link

Can someone jack EV Kias as easily as their gas-driven brethren? Can EVs get carjacked, or do they have, like, some biometric killswitch?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:25 (five months ago) link

xp 2014 base model. almost 200,000 thousand miles and very banged up from years of street parking.

treeship., Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:36 (five months ago) link

if it's a manual i'm sure you can sell it to some high school kid

, Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:44 (five months ago) link

that Atlantic article is paywalled but yeah there's something to be said about dumb celebrities desperate for validation and how easy it is for them to fall into the waiting arms of Nazis. like I don't think it's so much that he's always had these views but he's an idiot who really wants to be liked and sound smart and that's kind of hard to do on the left when you don't actually know anything (and also run multiple union-busting businesses with famously terrible working conditions), but remarkably easy to do on the right, and that's how you basically wind up siding with a fascist belief system that you probably never really seriously thought about. you can see how this would happen to say the Dilbert guy but having it happen to the richest guy on Earth is pretty remarkable

frogbs, Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:59 (five months ago) link

https://archive.ph/tGeFB

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 November 2023 18:02 (five months ago) link

I think it is also that he’s always had these beliefs, to be clear

the new drip king (DJP), Thursday, 16 November 2023 18:03 (five months ago) link

I haven’t really commented on it because I feel like this is exactly what he has been for years; I’m not even like “oh he said the quiet part out loud” because he is fundamentally incapable of being quiet.

the new drip king (DJP), Thursday, 16 November 2023 18:04 (five months ago) link

he comes from a family that moved to south africa because they liked apartheid, and he segregates his factories. i don't see any reason to give him the benefit of the doubt here, even if he's not on record with the "hitler was right" stuff until now.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 November 2023 18:05 (five months ago) link

i agree. frogbs is being too charitable. he grew up under apartheid and he likes the idea of a system like that.

treeship., Thursday, 16 November 2023 18:06 (five months ago) link

I guess what I'm saying is I don't think Elon himself is a guy who necessarily has developed serious political views because he seems to only view the world through the lens of himself. he'll say whatever he has to to make people think he's edgy and smart and the ultimate memelord. I realize this is giving him way too much credit for no reason but I really do believe if not for the armies of blue checks going "so true!" on everything he posts he would not be doing this

frogbs, Thursday, 16 November 2023 18:09 (five months ago) link

yeah saw someone theorize that the fall of apartheid was a formative and traumatic event in musks life and that the parallels with blm and me too really triggered him provoking him to be more vocal about his awful beliefs, which idk if its true but it really does all line up

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 November 2023 18:10 (five months ago) link

he grew up in south africa and then spent ten years working closely with peter thiel. the idea that he doesn't have sincerely held political beliefs seems dubious at best. i can see how recent events would encourage him to be more open about those beliefs, or make them feel more on-topic.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 November 2023 18:11 (five months ago) link

I believe he bought Twitter specifically to do this. His entire argument was “free speech is being stifled, let everyone talk” and made it a priority to let u fettered racists back onto the platform. If there’s an echo chamber, it’s because it was his vision to create it. You’re looking at a symptom/attribute and treating it as a side-effect.

the new drip king (DJP), Thursday, 16 November 2023 18:11 (five months ago) link

if that's in response to the last sentence of my post, that's fair.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 November 2023 18:14 (five months ago) link

yeah otm, also due to solipsism he thought the new racist twitter would be popular and profitable xp

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 November 2023 18:15 (five months ago) link

“u fettered” should have been “unfettered”, I do not believe the other posters here are racists chained to their posting devices *insert PROVE ME WRONG dude here*

Also, that was a response to frogbs, I don’t think we are in fundamental disagreement

the new drip king (DJP), Thursday, 16 November 2023 18:20 (five months ago) link

well look it's def true that he's almost certainly always been a rightwing shithead but I also think its true he wants to be a known and important figure in more mainstream/leftwing pop culture, from which he's been pretty roundly rejected. which I think caused him to seek that sort of validation on the right. I mean to me it looked like he was mostly unbanning those guys because he wanted them to like him. but idk yall are probably right that he's always been this way just a lot less public about it. by the way I'm not using "he just wants racists to love him" as an argument I just mean he's an extraordinarily needy guy which you don't see from insanely rich dudes who can singlehandedly influence US policy

frogbs, Thursday, 16 November 2023 19:40 (five months ago) link

I don't think there's any contradiction between Musk's racism and reactionary politics being both shallowly considered and deeply felt.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 16 November 2023 19:44 (five months ago) link

I don't think he's spent much time thinking about any of it, but by god he knows the truth when he retweets it.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 16 November 2023 19:45 (five months ago) link

well... for people seeking a new electric car, there are now solid alternatives to Tesla, many of them

It'll be interesting to see how his bullshit affects car sales

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 November 2023 19:47 (five months ago) link

I don't think there's any contradiction between Musk's racism and reactionary politics being both shallowly considered and deeply felt.

I guess no but he definitely seems like a guy who can oscillate between Mitt Romney and Adolf Hitler depending on who he's talking to, because he is nothing but a dumb reply guy, his whole life is memes, he never has an original thought on his own. so yeah the fact that he made himself the eternal main character of Twitter is really gonna amp this shit way up

frogbs, Thursday, 16 November 2023 19:52 (five months ago) link

thank you to the failing new york times for heeding my call for more prominent coverage of this https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/16/technology/elon-musk-endorses-antisemitic-post-ibm.html

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 November 2023 03:08 (five months ago) link

IBM doesn’t need any more association with Nazis than it already has certainly

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 17 November 2023 03:38 (five months ago) link

Not to perpetually beat the dead Reddit horse but I think that site was also formative of Musk’s political views (which means likely the YouTube right wing too). He’s said he has spent a lot of time on Reddit, most of his memes apparently came from there and the site is in many ways an alt-right pipeline. Especially if those creeps had some idea who he was there and were specifically targeting him. Of course as he was palling around with Thiel at the same time, Reddit would have just helped him to rationalize his prejudices, to be socialized among the creeps, and to have his biases confirmed — thereby cementing the work Thiel was presumably already doing on him.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 17 November 2023 08:46 (five months ago) link

Feeling icky for looking at this article but just to make it perfectly clear this is a quote from an article from The D4ily $t0rmer from 2015:

There are many terrific pro-White communities on Reddit, including:
(redacted)
…to name just a few.
These are all great communities that you should certainly consider joining for pro-White links and news. However, for White Nationalists, the really great thing about Reddit is that it provides quite a lot of fertile ground for recruiting young people into the pro-White movement.


[Mods I will take zero offense at any edits you feel may be necessary to that language.]

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 17 November 2023 08:57 (five months ago) link

Thanks for reproducing racism in order to decry it

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 17 November 2023 11:01 (five months ago) link

Reading the Da1ly St0rm3r but shaking my head in disgust so people know I don’t agree as I frantically paste the content

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 17 November 2023 11:02 (five months ago) link

Agree that stuff doesn't need to be posted to make the point - we don't need to see the racism receipts.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 17 November 2023 11:57 (five months ago) link

He didn’t need the internet to make him racist. He and thiel have all kinds of creepy hierarchical ideas about human nature.

treeship., Friday, 17 November 2023 12:11 (five months ago) link

Who cares why he is an asshole, on one level, but on the other hand, he isn’t a teen who got sucked into 4chan, he is the richest man in the world, and he is using his position to sow hatred in the US

treeship., Friday, 17 November 2023 12:13 (five months ago) link

yes, i don't see much point in pathologizing why obscenely wealthy white men happen to have horrible politics

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 November 2023 12:13 (five months ago) link

One thing about this reddit connection is that reddit got cleaned up in recent years. So musk probably wants to make X the “new reddit.”

treeship., Friday, 17 November 2023 12:15 (five months ago) link

mentioning a white supremacist site you happen to read in order to decry Reddit is a weird flex honestly?

I don’t like social media illiterates upholding a literal right wing extremist-captured disinformation service as their go-to for balanced discussion.

― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 02:33 (one month ago) link

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 17 November 2023 12:24 (five months ago) link

lol remember this

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/10/business/media/elon-musk-politics-twitter.html

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 November 2023 12:36 (five months ago) link

Yeah I don’t think “conservative” really captures that recent tweet…

treeship., Friday, 17 November 2023 12:38 (five months ago) link

“Why” he thinks like this is probably on interest only to a biographer.

Does seem sometimes like people are giving him the benefit of the doubt by saying he doesn’t actually think like this and is doing a bit because it’s funny or he’s not very bright or it will cause people to admire him.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 November 2023 12:40 (five months ago) link

I think older people assume that the man behind tesla and spacex must be a reasonable person with considered beliefs.

Remember the kids rescued underwater by the diver? An older man I know, a very successful ivy league educated guy, believed elon helped resolve this issue. I told him no, elon wanted to use a submarine and when that didn’t work he baselessly attacked the diver who did rescue the kids as a pedophile. He said no — no way — elon wouldn’t behave in such a weird way.

treeship., Friday, 17 November 2023 12:54 (five months ago) link

mentioning a white supremacist site you happen to read in order to decry Reddit is a weird flex honestly?

gyac is referring to this

Nuanced discussions are often lacking in the echo chambers of social media and the 24 hour news cycle. The only place where I've seen nuanced discussions about the topic are on platforms that favor more nuanced discussion, such as 4chan and (yes, believe it or not) St0rmf0ont.

which i'd like some clarification on, because i don't think reading and quote posting from ACTUAL NAZI SITES on ilx is acceptable behaviour tbh

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 November 2023 13:03 (five months ago) link

You’re really not gonna let it go huh gyac. I have never regularly read the D.S. but since you seem invested in defending Reddit, or calling me out for criticizing Reddit or whatever, I wanted to make it clear how specific this association with actual literal Nazis is.

Sorry to anyone else that found the language offensive, again I’m all for the mods doing any editing that seems appropriate.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 17 November 2023 13:04 (five months ago) link

I have zero interest in defending Reddit. I don’t really understand why this is the second recent incident of you mentioning some Neo-Nazi site you read, as though anyone here was interested in the thoughts of their posters.

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 17 November 2023 13:06 (five months ago) link

Sorry Noodle what did you need cleared up there? My point was that Reddit is very specifically linked to S.F. and to /pol/ so the original quote poising it as a home of “nuanced discussion” was farcical imo. I mean yeah maybe nuanced compared to Twitter but that’s really a low bar to hop over. Pretty ridiculous this level of outrage in defense of Reddit when the actual offensive content in that quote was the names of fucking subreddits.

(And to be clear the article I viewed was on the archive not their site.)

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 17 November 2023 13:08 (five months ago) link

////\\\\
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parody ___///// gyac \\\\___

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 17 November 2023 13:10 (five months ago) link

That worked well

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 17 November 2023 13:11 (five months ago) link

i'm not defending Reddit either, i'm asking why anybody would read fascist websites, "regularly" or not, and asking you to think about posting actual racial slurs on this board, for illustrative purposes or otherwise

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 November 2023 13:11 (five months ago) link

I could say the same about Reddit. That’s my point and yet whether you’re actively defending it or not, it seems to be given a free pass here.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 17 November 2023 13:15 (five months ago) link

It's being given such a free pass that we are asking you to stop posting stuff from it.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 17 November 2023 13:54 (five months ago) link

viborg your argument doesn’t make sense— “this website is a racist cesspool, i shall quote noted racist cesspool site praising it as evidence that former is racist cesspool.”

trust me when i say you didn’t need to quote the DS to get your point across.

mods, plz, delete that awful post.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 17 November 2023 13:55 (five months ago) link

reddit had the same obnoxious free speech contrarian stance where they allowed subreddit communities to fester for way too long with the defense that their content was banned from the front page. afaik they banned all those communities years ago, but not before people like Musk had proliferated. it’s just a normal internet cesspool at this point and not one that’s a notable shelter for hate speech.

Musk thinking that their decision to oust those communities was bad and that twitter should let people post that garbage? probably something that occurred to him

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 17 November 2023 14:04 (five months ago) link

I don’t think reddit and whether it’s good or bad in 2023 is at all relevant to the conversation other than as a historical reference on how not to handle hate speech, and I don’t think we need to cite an actual pro-nazi site to cite something that was broadly written about and documented at the time

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 17 November 2023 14:07 (five months ago) link

now reddit the just the only non seo trap how to site left

lag∞n, Friday, 17 November 2023 14:09 (five months ago) link

jfc I've seen people pick some weird hills to die on in an internet argument, but doubling down on quoting from an actual Nazi site to prove some incomprehensible point really might be a sign that you need to step away from the internet for a few days

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 17 November 2023 15:10 (five months ago) link

redaction made

mod, Friday, 17 November 2023 15:11 (five months ago) link

I have to say that cannonballing into a discussion about how Elon Musk sucks with “LOOK GUYS, THERE’S RACISM ON REDDIT” is making me laugh more than it probably should

the new drip king (DJP), Friday, 17 November 2023 15:24 (five months ago) link

i admit that I don't see what the connection is at all

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 17 November 2023 15:30 (five months ago) link

i think the claim is elon musk, a man who grew up in south africa and then spent the first 20 years of his adulthood working closely with extremely political crank businessmen, and is a billionaire who runs like ten businesses (and is CTO of one, reporting into the CEO), gets his politics from lurking on message boards.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:19 (five months ago) link

His heel turn also probably as much to do when the unfettered hero worship of him by people on left and right stopped and someone dared to ask him why he was interfering with a cave rescue

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 November 2023 17:07 (five months ago) link

cool

This is an important and welcome move by @elonmusk. I appreciate this leadership in fighting hate. https://t.co/N1tMHa1M1j

— Jonathan Greenblatt (@JGreenblattADL) November 17, 2023

JoeStork, Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:01 (five months ago) link

nevertheless

https://i.imgur.com/wW1u9Ue.png

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 November 2023 14:48 (five months ago) link

Burning piles of money, to scale.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 November 2023 14:57 (five months ago) link

if i were the conspiratorial sort i would say that owning twitter was a good way of creating an anti-jewish army of american college kids via algorithms and targeted misinformation. but i'm glad i'm not that sort.

scott seward, Saturday, 18 November 2023 15:58 (five months ago) link

don't think there's any college kids on twitter in 2023 tbh

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 18 November 2023 16:01 (five months ago) link

yeah, tho using twitter as a bullhorn for his various bad beliefs is for sure part of the plan

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 November 2023 16:04 (five months ago) link

lmao at the "thermonuclear" suit he plans to bring next week against the authors of this report for ... faking screenshots? i mean what's his case otherwise? https://www.mediamatters.org/twitter/musk-endorses-antisemitic-conspiracy-theory-x-has-been-placing-ads-apple-bravo-ibm-oracle.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 18 November 2023 19:24 (five months ago) link

they're fine long as they don't bring L. Lin Wood out of (forced) retirement to represent them

mark s, Saturday, 18 November 2023 20:02 (five months ago) link

musk has a way of saying hes going to sue but then not actually suing

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 November 2023 21:53 (five months ago) link

I just watched a vid by a rocket engineering geek explaining that Musk's flagship rocket project blowing to smithereens again was actually a success because something called "the hot separation phase" at 140 km into the ascent into space worked like a dream!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 18 November 2023 22:11 (five months ago) link

hot separation phase also describes Musk's relationship with Grimes

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 18 November 2023 22:28 (five months ago) link

not great for twitter

Most of ESPN’s accounts were inactive yesterday after Disney announced on Friday that it was done advertising on X, formerly Twitter. Disney’s decision followed posts by platform owner Elon Musk agreeing with antisemitic and white power accounts. AwfulAnnouncing spotted the inactivity yesterday, noting that the main ESPN account has almost 50 million followers.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/19/23967681/espn-x-accounts-not-posting-disney-no-longer-advertising-musk-antisemitic-posts

lag∞n, Monday, 20 November 2023 01:22 (five months ago) link

countdown to DeSantis legislating that Disney has to rescind that decision

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 20 November 2023 03:27 (five months ago) link

ok so last night i dremt that i was a key designer-cog at SpaceX and we had just put five (5) full-sized rocket-cities up into the sky

we went outside to gaze proudly at them, naturally they were belching all kinds of flaming rocket fuel and smoke everywhere but they were also kind of amazing-looking up there, like massive skyscrapers hovering in the actual distant sky (credit here goes to my own astounding subconscious visual imagination here tho, and not the thin-skinned lizard-fella)

mark s, Monday, 20 November 2023 11:15 (five months ago) link

wow scary

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_eCxroXkAAS62h?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 17:06 (five months ago) link

@cb_doge

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 17:08 (five months ago) link

Bro clearly studied the blade

circa1916, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 17:37 (five months ago) link

this is a confession, we shd SWAT him

mark s, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 17:53 (five months ago) link

as threatening as a larper meme

omar little, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 18:06 (five months ago) link

I can't imagine why advertisers are staying away from this platform, it's so convivial and run by such a nice man.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 18:08 (five months ago) link

TS: Large Graveyard filled with my enemies vs. Lonely Starbucks Lover

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 18:36 (five months ago) link

Imagine being the richest human on earth and spending your every waking moment showing all of the other people on earth the many many ways in which you are deeply + laughably pathetic. Like not just letting a deeply pathetic public moment happen and then hopefully fade from memory but every day being like 'oh, in case you'd somehow forgotten'

It is a disgusting... (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 19:20 (five months ago) link

time to find out why the rockets have been exploding… all the way back to 2016: https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/rockets/a23183/spacex-sniped-rocket/

mark s, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 16:40 (four months ago) link

It was really the second shooter from the grassy knoll.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 17:13 (four months ago) link

what if no-one shot the falcon 9 and the rocket just did that

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 17:28 (four months ago) link

no way, that can't possibly it because of "an odd shadow, then a white spot", don't you see?

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 17:32 (four months ago) link

the space program is so doomed.

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 17:35 (four months ago) link

There's a piece on New York magazine's website today about the Cybertruck, and it's actually pretty good on the vehicle's many flaws and the fucked marketplace into which Tesla is vomiting it, but it starts like this:

In the spirit of disclosure, I’m going to admit that I think driving a Tesla Cybertruck would absolutely rule. It’s a fast, weird fantasy car — the kind of concept that usually doesn’t make its way off the Javits Center showroom floor and onto the road. Yes, it looks like something out of a 1980s Ridley Scott movie and it’s made by Elon Musk, but at least you can tell it apart from every other passenger vehicle. Part of what makes it fun is how ostentatious the thing is. It’s the opposite of the anonymous wealth signifiers preferred by the Succession class and the tech titans who control our lives. (Parking it, though, would be a nightmare.)

Dude (and of course the writer is a dude), you or someone looking out for you really should have cut that part.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 17:40 (four months ago) link

Car nerds are weird.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 17:59 (four months ago) link

I mean I don't necessarily disagree with that, I've gotten the opportunity to drive some oddly-shaped and extremely-modded vehicles and it is kind of fun. I can see it being cool to drive for a weekend or whatever. You'd certainly draw some attention I guess.

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 18:00 (four months ago) link

that said, the Cybertruck, much like Elon Musk's face, only looks good from one particular angle, and every time you see a shot of it in the wild it just looks incredibly stupid. also lol @ the video of it struggling to go up a small hill. I can only imagine the sorts of problems these things are going to have.

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 18:04 (four months ago) link

I love purpose-built projects that are specific to solutions, and they look how they look. Sometimes it’s good. Sometimes it’s less good. This, though, is awful looking, and doesn’t look like it can solve any problem. It’s like it’s meant for red carpet events or maybe the mall. What the fuck is it even doing?

digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 18:23 (four months ago) link

there's a monkey's paw thing where imo it makes sense to wish car designs were more aesthetically adventurous/ambitious, but then the result is a clown car built by a nazi

rob, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 18:26 (four months ago) link

You didn't bury those designs in the ... truck cemetery, did you?

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 19:27 (four months ago) link

Who made who?

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 19:30 (four months ago) link

Sometimes cars come back different.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 19:54 (four months ago) link

The Keep but instead of a Golem it’s a hideous truck driven by a Nazi and the movie ends happily.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 02:04 (four months ago) link

A weekend spent driving a Froot Loops donks would be way more fun than one in a Cybertruck

https://i0.wp.com/www.jenx67.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Froot-Loop-Donk-Car.jpg

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 02:54 (four months ago) link

otm

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 02:54 (four months ago) link

They should make an EV Oscar Mayer Weinermobile, that would be more appealing than this Elon monstrosity.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 03:00 (four months ago) link

I will be hornswaggled if Cybertrucks are actually street legal.

Tapioca by Jean Sibelius (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 04:30 (four months ago) link

I wouldn't pull one over, who knows where Elon hid the epic ftw self-destruct button

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 04:38 (four months ago) link

They really do look like a VHS tape rewinder

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 05:15 (four months ago) link

except you know those things actually can go backwards

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 05:17 (four months ago) link

They should make an EV Oscar Mayer Weinermobile, that would be more appealing than this Elon monstrosity.

werealltryingtofindtheguythatdidthis.jpg

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 05:45 (four months ago) link

thought it was made out of metal not cardboard haha

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:yn75hmwkitdshnylue6d3grk/bafkreihdbfx2wi5hfxhxdb7rmjqzfa2fsm2ssszn6wp2qpubzm23vaseoy@jpeg

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 20:05 (four months ago) link

just a bit of freestylin' by the fabricator

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 20:22 (four months ago) link

imagine spending 80k on this thing

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 20:24 (four months ago) link

I was joking that I was going to buy one as a bit. Everyone at work groans when I pull into the parking lot

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 20:26 (four months ago) link

whoa — “go fuck yourself,” Elon Musk says to Bob Iger and others who pull advertising from X

at this point it’s almost as if he’s watching the old Iron Man movies and doing a reverse Tony Stark impression pic.twitter.com/csXxeLH2wG

— j.d. durkin (@jd_durkin) November 29, 2023

, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 23:01 (four months ago) link

Quite a chyron there.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 23:02 (four months ago) link

"ANTISEMITISM WAS NOT MY INTENTION"

GO FUCK YOURSELF

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 23:02 (four months ago) link

lol sorkin totally baffled

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 23:04 (four months ago) link

when elon said "fuck bob iger"

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/436/943/93f.jpg

, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 23:05 (four months ago) link

linda yaccarino is basically writing her resignation letter right now isn't she?

, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 23:06 (four months ago) link

love Elon's Final Fantasy leather jacket

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 23:06 (four months ago) link

xpost Nah I think she's on this train for good:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/linda-yaccarino-elon-musk-x-advertisers-1235683997/

In fact, it’s unclear what Yaccarino thinks of Musk’s views; after his Nov. 15 tweet endorsing an antisemitic trope as “the actual truth,” she touted the site’s “efforts to combat antisemitism and discrimination.” (Her views on Donald Trump are much clearer. Associates say she was an enthusiastic supporter. She was appointed to the President’s Council on Sport, Fitness and Nutrition during his administration.)....

But an NBCU executive observing the chaos says Yaccarino’s see-no-evil stance is what he would expect. “In her mind, she’s committed to this,” he says. “I’ve seen commentary that she needs to leave. She’s not listening to any of that. She has this way of blocking out the negative and almost speaking her mantra until it becomes the truth. Or she thinks it’s the truth.”

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 23:12 (four months ago) link

https://t.co/juWrT3CNxP pic.twitter.com/7OCz5D1R61

— Dave Itzkoff (@ditzkoff) November 29, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 23:15 (four months ago) link

“tell it to earth” — new borad descrip

bae (sic), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 23:28 (four months ago) link

elong looking to audience and desperate for their applause

Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 23:51 (four months ago) link

silence actually literally deafening

Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 23:51 (four months ago) link

lmao tell it to earth, good stuff

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 23:54 (four months ago) link

Earth to Elon: "Go fuck yourself"

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 30 November 2023 00:09 (four months ago) link

whoa but wait they're gonna document it in great detail, yikes

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 30 November 2023 00:20 (four months ago) link

cant believe disney would do this to twitter

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2023 00:32 (four months ago) link

is Ned’s NYT thing actually from an interview?

tobo73, Thursday, 30 November 2023 00:40 (four months ago) link

Yeah, he was interviewed live onstage by Andrew Ross Sorkin at some kind of NYT-sponsored conference.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 30 November 2023 00:42 (four months ago) link

Here’s a fuller version pic.twitter.com/rmAjAoax6T

— Bill Grueskin (@BGrueskin) November 29, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2023 00:53 (four months ago) link

includes tell it to earth

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2023 00:53 (four months ago) link

he can add 'chief brand tarnisher' to his impressive resume

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 30 November 2023 00:56 (four months ago) link

director of earth telling

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2023 00:57 (four months ago) link

he resembles an amphibian of some sort, hard to pin down

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 30 November 2023 00:58 (four months ago) link

earth whisperer

Clay, Thursday, 30 November 2023 01:02 (four months ago) link

He doesn't seem well.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 30 November 2023 01:05 (four months ago) link

It almost sounds like Elon is planning to leave the earth and is saying the mean advertisers won't have him to kick around anymore.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 30 November 2023 01:07 (four months ago) link

he resembles an amphibian of some sort

Slippy Toad?

soup of magpies (geoffreyess), Thursday, 30 November 2023 01:10 (four months ago) link

Elon is planning to leave the earth

The Poochie of Billionaires

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 30 November 2023 01:21 (four months ago) link

musk knows he has no recourse when advertisers decide to jump ship, so he's trying to manufacture one out of nothing. the trouble is that documenting his failure "in great detail" is about the emptiest, most idiotic threat imaginable.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 30 November 2023 01:28 (four months ago) link

Richest man on earth blames other people for not giving him their money.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 30 November 2023 02:15 (four months ago) link

what the heck

Lmao you gotta see the comments https://t.co/5xpeRnKUEC

— Your Santa (@SamFacto) November 30, 2023

https://i.imgur.com/i4Rcorz.png

https://i.imgur.com/X7k9zrG.png

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2023 03:41 (four months ago) link

thank god he cleaned up the bots

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 30 November 2023 03:43 (four months ago) link

he resembles an amphibian of some sort, hard to pin down

― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, November 29, 2023 6:58 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

easy: frog

frogbs, Thursday, 30 November 2023 03:58 (four months ago) link

must be so wild to be the richest man in the world high as shit on prescription drugs up on stage almost crying telling other rich guys to fuck off

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2023 04:01 (four months ago) link

lol hes in orbit

This exchange is really illuminating. He is incapable of understanding the interviewer. He keeps repeating himself like he’s in some sort of fugue state. pic.twitter.com/gsDTZpg1OK

— evan (@esjesjesj) November 30, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2023 04:07 (four months ago) link

what the fuck

https://i.ibb.co/rcpP5YM/c396d0e9-86d2-4b86-99d1-8ae0d5ad5db2.jpg

frogbs, Thursday, 30 November 2023 04:10 (four months ago) link

Elon has been watching the tapes of Charlie Sheen's months-long public breakdown and is all 'hold my cheap trucker speed'

It is a disgusting... (Old Lunch), Thursday, 30 November 2023 04:54 (four months ago) link

Gotta say though, tbh, I'm a little concerned to see exactly which Bond villain he ultimately morphs into

It is a disgusting... (Old Lunch), Thursday, 30 November 2023 04:55 (four months ago) link

he resembles an amphibian of some sort, hard to pin down

― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, November 29, 2023 6:58 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

easy: frog

― frogbs

Can't unsee this now, esp with this interview. The way he pulls his mouth down smugly after he's said something and juts out his jaw.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-drg_sTx0n4s/Vz40FG5nNOI/AAAAAAAAIoo/tZgHhf_Gs0gz9YdzcDIXOoGucp7qCiwsACPcB/s1600/wind-in-willows.jpg

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 30 November 2023 05:29 (four months ago) link

That interviewer is awful

anvil, Thursday, 30 November 2023 09:16 (four months ago) link

Musk: “The only reason I am here, Jonathan, is because you are a friend.”

Andrew: “I am Andrew.” pic.twitter.com/ZTz7t7h8hv

— Thomas B. Philly 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇮🇱 (@TheeThomasB) November 30, 2023

nashwan, Thursday, 30 November 2023 10:27 (four months ago) link

He's created this beautiful mind palace where his TO THE MOON DOGE LOL EXCELLENT MEME SIR reply guys represent what actual people think of him.

Waiting on Star Trek to go back scrub out all of their cringe-inducing Musk references.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 30 November 2023 10:37 (four months ago) link


Gotta say though, tbh, I'm a little concerned to see exactly which Bond villain he ultimately morphs into

― It is a disgusting... (Old Lunch), Wednesday, November 29, 2023 11:55 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah, "tell it to earth" sounds like he's holding the world hostage. "Nice earth ya got there. Be a shame if something happened to it because advertisers are boycotting my antisemitic platform." Or maybe just that he will use Twitter to unite the global antisemitic communities to institute total world fascism.

peace, man, Thursday, 30 November 2023 12:20 (four months ago) link

tbf "tell it to earth" is his first actual real original meme

let no one gainsay the bucket-load of ket as a solid basis for an interview

mark s, Thursday, 30 November 2023 12:29 (four months ago) link

*Taylor Dane voice* Tell it to the earth

the new drip king (DJP), Thursday, 30 November 2023 13:17 (four months ago) link

gotta hand it to him he wants nothing more in life than to be funny and I think he finally is

frogbs, Thursday, 30 November 2023 14:28 (four months ago) link

"So, um, no, no, totally, so, so, wha, the, no, a-actually wha-what this advertising boycott i-is, uh, is, is gonna do is it's gonna kill the company" -Elon Musk

frogbs, Thursday, 30 November 2023 14:30 (four months ago) link

Can someone convince this guy that he’s a talented musician? I want to hear how bad a MUSK album would be.

Cow_Art, Thursday, 30 November 2023 14:31 (four months ago) link

He already did a terrible EDM song a couple years back . . .
https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/31/21116427/elon-musk-song-edm-soundcloud

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Thursday, 30 November 2023 14:39 (four months ago) link

his head looks like a cybertruck

https://i.imgur.com/tCTKG3Q.png

frogbs, Thursday, 30 November 2023 14:40 (four months ago) link

That entire interview is so 'middle school kid pretending to be a badass after being called to the principal's office when he's actually shit scared'. And 'tell it to earth' is exactly the kind of sassmouthed-yet-petulant utterance I'd expect from that theoretical 11-year-old.

It is a disgusting... (Old Lunch), Thursday, 30 November 2023 15:01 (four months ago) link

kids, that there's a lizard with a (overstretched) mask

digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Thursday, 30 November 2023 15:05 (four months ago) link

I want to hear how bad a MUSK album would be.

don't tell me no-one loves me, ayyyiii

Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Thursday, 30 November 2023 15:38 (four months ago) link

“I am Andrew.”

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 30 November 2023 15:44 (four months ago) link

we are all andrew now

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 November 2023 16:04 (four months ago) link

i am on record in this very thread as standing against the bodyshaming of elon musk

but with that said jesus fuck his face has taken on a startlingly simon weston quality recently

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 November 2023 16:06 (four months ago) link

I think the biggest danger he poses at present is if he's genuinely not worried about his money, and I don't think he is, then he's almost certainly going to donate an election-cementing amount of money to the Trump campaign. if your position is "there's no way Trump isn't going to win," cool whatever, but money wins the election, period. in a brighter time some rogue element would eliminate both these guys for the greater good, and it would be a moral good to do so imo, but we don't live in that time.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 30 November 2023 16:13 (four months ago) link

presidential elections have so much money in them already even elon level sums dont move the needle much i mean whats the 71st campaign ad someones seen really do for them that the 70th didnt, smart billionaires put their money into congressional/state/dogcatcher races

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2023 16:16 (four months ago) link

also I don't really think Elon likes Trump anyway, I mean he's arguably the one guy who kinda could drive engagement on the dead dumb bird site again

frogbs, Thursday, 30 November 2023 16:17 (four months ago) link

was pointed out that he is starting to resemble Mac's mom on It's Always Sunny, which now I can't un-see

https://i.imgur.com/m9830Vb.jpg

frogbs, Thursday, 30 November 2023 16:31 (four months ago) link

lol

groovypanda, Thursday, 30 November 2023 16:37 (four months ago) link

holy shit that song. Don't Doubt Your Vibe lol this is... it's exactly what I was hoping for. Thank you.

Wow.

Cow_Art, Thursday, 30 November 2023 17:10 (four months ago) link

there's just no real way to spend the amount of money he's got access to. some insanely rich people buy megayachts that cost millions a year just to keep in service, and that's without ever even taking them out from the dock. money's mostly an imaginary construct at that point because it's no longer something that is at all linked to your ability to thrive. you don't even use money in the normal way, you just leverage assets and stock and ask the banks for cash when you want it

this has to be terrible for someone like elon who thinks driving himself to a data center and unplugging a bunch of servers and throwing them into a moving truck is a good idea. he's absolutely not in a position where he personally should be doing shit like that. he has to hate a good portion of his life, because he has to know that the honorary engineer title, the bitching about tiny details on cars, sleeping at the office so he looks busy, tweeting 24/7, none of it seems fulfilling

he really seems like a guy who wants to make decisions and do things and be congratulated or booed. that's all he's got left

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 30 November 2023 17:55 (four months ago) link

as a few people have speculated something really does seem to happen to your brain when you spend so much of your life just pointing at a thing and immediately getting to have that thing. kinda fucked up that we've structured our entire society around capitalism and the dude who won the capitalism lottery turned into a miserable sack of shit who needs to be cranked out of his mind at all times

frogbs, Thursday, 30 November 2023 18:31 (four months ago) link

It is sadly funny that the richest guy in the world fell for all the same grievance/conspiracy shit that the economically distressed/forgotten man is supposed to fall for.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 30 November 2023 18:50 (four months ago) link

as a few people have speculated something really does seem to happen to your brain when you spend so much of your life just pointing at a thing and immediately getting to have that thing.

― frogbs, Thursday, November 30, 2023 1:31 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

you dont even have to be mega rich there are tons ordinarily affluent people, vacation house owners, who live their lives like most people they encounter are their servants, tho im sure the effect is much greater with the richest people in the world

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2023 19:51 (four months ago) link

pic.twitter.com/IP5IjxjLAV

— the information pimp (@BirdRespecter) November 30, 2023

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 30 November 2023 20:04 (four months ago) link

everyone keeps calling him the richest man in the world but it is very important that we remember he is only the *second* richest, below bernard arnault of LVMH moët hennessy louis vuitton, who make things ppl actually want and like (booze and handbags)

mark s, Thursday, 30 November 2023 20:08 (four months ago) link

isnt the CYBPRFRVKK supposed to launch today

frogbs, Thursday, 30 November 2023 20:15 (four months ago) link

yeah the event is happening now

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2023 20:15 (four months ago) link

xxpost Sorry he's listed as Bernard Arnault & Family-- that's like calling the Jackson 5 the top selling solo artist.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 30 November 2023 20:20 (four months ago) link

Elon most definitely looks like he's Cybering with his Truck in that photo

It is a disgusting... (Old Lunch), Thursday, 30 November 2023 20:22 (four months ago) link

the real richest person in the world is me

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2023 20:25 (four months ago) link

true wealth is making good* tweets

*bad

mark s, Thursday, 30 November 2023 20:27 (four months ago) link

otm

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2023 20:27 (four months ago) link

dolly partons coat of many colors except its about posts

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2023 20:28 (four months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/86gZzFn.png

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2023 21:04 (four months ago) link

Jon Cryptid ⚰️ @jon-christian.bsky.social
A Cybertruck customer walked up to Elon and said "I haven't slept in three days" and Elon just said "okay"

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2023 21:10 (four months ago) link

That's fine. You can just turn on the self driving feature.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 30 November 2023 21:13 (four months ago) link

Even fans don't seem to be particularly happy with this launch. Range is a lot lower than expected, somewhere around 250 mi, and the price is a lot higher than people expected, $60,000 plus for the basic model, and if I saw correctly that one won't be out until supposedly 2025 or something. I am all in for the mocking.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 November 2023 21:19 (four months ago) link

my coworker: "They showed it beating a Porsche 911 on a drag strip, and it was towing a second 911!"
me: "OK"

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 30 November 2023 21:19 (four months ago) link

as a few people have speculated something really does seem to happen to your brain when you spend so much of your life just pointing at a thing and immediately getting to have that thing. kinda fucked up that we've structured our entire society around capitalism and the dude who won the capitalism lottery turned into a miserable sack of shit who needs to be cranked out of his mind at all times

― frogbs, Thursday, November 30, 2023 1:31 PM (two hours ago)

Being a billionaire must be insane. You can buy new teeth, new skin. All your chairs cost 20,000 dollars and weigh 2,000 pounds. Your life is just a series of your own preferences. In terms of cognitive impairment it's probably like being kicked in the head by a horse every day

— Thing Bad (@Merman_Melville) January 24, 2019

, Thursday, 30 November 2023 21:24 (four months ago) link

is $60000 the actual sticker price for the cheap version? there's something on there about the $7500 tax credit + "estimated gas savings" which makes me think the real price is more like $72000

frogbs, Thursday, 30 November 2023 21:40 (four months ago) link

250 miles is the range without any load. If it’s anything like the ford then expect half that for anyone who actually uses it as a truck (lol).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nS0Fdayj8Y

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 30 November 2023 21:42 (four months ago) link

oh wait ok $60k is the actual price it's just listed at $49k to trick people

frogbs, Thursday, 30 November 2023 21:43 (four months ago) link

though it does say "estimated delivery price" and people probably aren't getting these for another 18 months so I'm assuming the price is gonna jump another $10k because that's what Tesla always does

frogbs, Thursday, 30 November 2023 21:46 (four months ago) link

yeah best to play it safe and get an extender for your penis extension

blazin' squab (NickB), Thursday, 30 November 2023 23:23 (four months ago) link

Omfg from many posts ago i was now about snidely to type “welp that bed section is ‘ideal’ to carry more battery power,” but it is fucking what they actually are SELLING. i’m— i got nothing

digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Friday, 1 December 2023 00:36 (four months ago) link

as long as the mall is only 125 mi away it’s gtg already

digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Friday, 1 December 2023 00:38 (four months ago) link

I honestly thought the more ubiquitous they became the better people would get at identifying and avoiding scams but then I forgot that I'm an idiot

It is a disgusting... (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 December 2023 01:06 (four months ago) link

Not sure I'm gonna be able to resist constantly honking/flipping the bird at these things when I finally start seeing them on the road.

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 1 December 2023 04:10 (four months ago) link

I don't think I'll be seeing them at all honestly I genuinely don't think there's a market for them

frogbs, Friday, 1 December 2023 04:16 (four months ago) link

Yeah, I'm in the bay area...

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 1 December 2023 04:24 (four months ago) link

our condolences

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 1 December 2023 12:18 (four months ago) link

just remember, if you see one, do not acknowledge the driver in any way or look directly at the cybertruck unless necessary

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 1 December 2023 14:43 (four months ago) link

At least not without those ridiculous solar eclipse glasses.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 December 2023 14:48 (four months ago) link

They make the cybertrucks out of slow glass. You can stare at them and watch the past.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 1 December 2023 15:05 (four months ago) link

"we are all andrew now"

feeling this so deep

| (Latham Green), Friday, 1 December 2023 15:30 (four months ago) link

Where we’re going, we don’t need … roads.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 1 December 2023 17:20 (four months ago) link

The ceremony started with Musk driving the truck on a stage in darkness and hopping into the bed to talk about it.

"It's the most unique thing on the road," he said. "Finally the future will look like the future."

John DeLorean would like a word

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 1 December 2023 18:43 (four months ago) link

Finally the future will look like shit.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 1 December 2023 18:48 (four months ago) link

flux capacitor in the cyberturck checkmate bitch u got memed

lag∞n, Friday, 1 December 2023 18:50 (four months ago) link

John DeLorean would like a word

As would the people behind the Pontiac Aztek

when i consider the predictive accuracy of the aztek it freaks me out

digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Friday, 1 December 2023 19:05 (four months ago) link

every commute in that thing will end like, "dude you've blown the transaxle, you're just grinding metal...ease down."

omar little, Friday, 1 December 2023 19:07 (four months ago) link

https://workshopcompanionstore.com/products/doge-box-plans

| (Latham Green), Friday, 1 December 2023 19:07 (four months ago) link

Owners of Azteks were said to be highly satisfied.. I think there was even a camping tent that attached to the cargo area

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 1 December 2023 19:11 (four months ago) link

when i consider the predictive accuracy of the aztek it freaks me out

Back in 2000 Fox had this dystopian Sci-Fi series with Jessica Alba & Michael Weatherly called Dark Angel (set in...2019), and instead of having a custom future car for Weatherly to drive, they had the genius idea to use new Azteks.

xps I used to work with a guy who used a wheelchair for whom the Aztec functioned well for getting himself and his chair in and out.

visiting, Friday, 1 December 2023 19:23 (four months ago) link

they look so normal by today's standards... headline of the accompanying article: The Pontiac Aztek: Who’s Laughing Now?

Universally panned and quickly discontinued, it’s clear that, almost 20 years on, the Aztek has made fools of us all.

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/pontiac-aztek-rear-1585319857.jpg

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 1 December 2023 19:30 (four months ago) link

lol yeah it does look normal, just another crossover

lag∞n, Friday, 1 December 2023 19:34 (four months ago) link

xps James Cameron’s Dark Angel, now on Fox

I don’t remember a whole lot other than Jessica Alba was in it, but I think a later season featured an animal-human hybrid cat person. Very prescient show

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 1 December 2023 19:46 (four months ago) link

Discussion of the Aztek immediately makes me think of Breaking Bad. The choice of Walt's car was obvs given great thought.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 1 December 2023 20:14 (four months ago) link

for me it's the second season of Survivor, when Colby won this car and had to demonstrate all of its great camping features with his visiting Mom in the Australian Outback.

not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Friday, 1 December 2023 23:05 (four months ago) link

one of the most pathetic and funniest reply chains i’ve ever seen pic.twitter.com/4bFVLRL6IN

— beer person (@CantEverDie) December 5, 2023

, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 14:51 (four months ago) link

sure i may have spent thousands of hours of my life shooting video game people but i draw the line at video game cops, good day sir!

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 14:58 (four months ago) link

amazing these are the same people who want the fate of the world to hinge on a computer saying the n word

rob, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 15:10 (four months ago) link

lol

Tesla’s labour dispute in Scandinavia has escalated after a union in Denmark said it would no longer transport vehicles to Sweden, where the US electric-car maker is locked in a battle over workers’ rights.

Denmark’s largest union 3F announced the move on Tuesday, saying its dockworkers and drivers would no longer help move vehicles bound for Sweden.

Swedish union IF Metall is in an increasingly bitter struggle with Tesla over the carmaker’s refusal to sign a collective agreement in which labour conditions are set by employers and unions.

“IF Metall and the Swedish workers are currently fighting an incredibly important battle. When they ask for our support, we take part, of course,” said Jan Villadsen, head of 3F Transport.

Swedish cleaners, dockworkers and postal workers have already tried to support the striking Tesla mechanics. Norwegian dockworkers have also said they would refuse to unload Teslas destined for Sweden.

The dispute involves only about 130 mechanics at Tesla’s workshops in Sweden, many of whom are still working as normal.

https://www.ft.com/content/4143c3ca-e2fd-48bb-b9b7-715454f1d28f

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 16:17 (four months ago) link

A long but interesting newsletter article about all the ways Musk is currently burning money with Twitter:

https://wheresyoured.at/p/elons-gordian-knot

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 20:12 (four months ago) link

i like that guy on bsky/twitter, but tbh i find his long form writing unreadable

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 20:38 (four months ago) link

still kinda weird to me that as a weird twitter OG he went on to become some sort of internet investigative reporter? and presumably has a profitable substack?

, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 00:14 (four months ago) link

lol I don't know him outside of seeing his name on Twitter, I assumed he was a The Nation columnist I'd never heard of based on the people who quoted/retweeted him.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 00:21 (four months ago) link

he owns a small marketing agency iirc

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 00:35 (four months ago) link

he certainly doesn’t have an editor

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 00:36 (four months ago) link

i think he does have an editor lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 00:36 (four months ago) link

idk why those facts about the poster in question are available to me but your welcome

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 00:52 (four months ago) link

Duh, you’re the editor.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 01:00 (four months ago) link

oh siht

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 01:04 (four months ago) link

“…you’ve *always* been the editor.”

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 01:06 (four months ago) link

I . . . corrected them.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 01:11 (four months ago) link

IwAR1iPE7Zeoq9qRDdbzo06y_xDGGHyxZu61BZV2rFoycJO7pHdFoS_uJnDlM

new Musk offspring just dropped

bae (sic), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 02:48 (four months ago) link

Pretty sure that's his twitter password.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 03:01 (four months ago) link

have we heard anything about his kids through all of this? some of them are teenagers now, they gotta be feeling nothing but embarrassment

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 03:07 (four months ago) link

Why, yes.

Elon Musk: Billionaire's daughter cuts ties with her father

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-61880709

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 03:10 (four months ago) link

Are we to understand that no CEO is calling for Musk to be removed from the Twitter board, because that would be a better top story rn than his deranged attacks on Iger who is also bad.

nashwan, Friday, 8 December 2023 15:13 (four months ago) link

The CEO has taken some pretty firm public positions this week tbf

Welcome to the world Grok — the ultimate ride or die.

— Linda Yaccarino (@lindayaX) December 7, 2023



Over 40 million people per day use X in Japan — today I’m one of them!! pic.twitter.com/eRGRZq0LxN

— Linda Yaccarino (@lindayaX) December 5, 2023



.@RockstarGames — gaming is one of our most popular topics. Drop that trailer here — give the people on @X what they want!! https://t.co/sU3hHk9pgQ

— Linda Yaccarino (@lindayaX) December 5, 2023



And it’s not done yet- see you for the bowl games!
Oh and……really?? GO NOLES! https://t.co/GYxDO8FiJ3

— Linda Yaccarino (@lindayaX) December 4, 2023



People in Japan spend over 1.5 billion minutes on X each day. The most popular topic? Gaming 🎮

— Linda Yaccarino (@lindayaX) December 4, 2023



Today @elonmusk gave a wide ranging and candid interview at @dealbook 2023. He also offered an apology, an explanation and an explicit point of view about our position. X is enabling an information independence that's uncomfortable for some people. We're a platform that allows… https://t.co/PSmSKRkJSq

— Linda Yaccarino (@lindayaX) November 30, 2023



Video views for the @NBA are up +39% year over year on the platform. It all happens on X.

— Linda Yaccarino (@lindayaX) November 25, 2023



Now this is how @X celebrates Small Business Saturday! 🎉💪 https://t.co/jLi2tVpNW9

— Linda Yaccarino (@lindayaX) November 25, 2023



Users like posts a *million times a minute*. That’s a lotta love—and it all happens on X.

— Linda Yaccarino (@lindayaX) November 25, 2023

bae (sic), Friday, 8 December 2023 16:30 (four months ago) link

If I had that job, I would be making those tweets, but I would be sobbing in self-loathing anguish every time I hit send

the new drip king (DJP), Friday, 8 December 2023 17:48 (four months ago) link

Frantically trying to make "It all happens on X!" into the next "Things go better with Coke!" when your entire marketing budget is your own CEO salary must be exhausting.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 8 December 2023 18:19 (four months ago) link

I heard it on the X

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 December 2023 18:21 (four months ago) link

That's a lotta love--and it all happens on X (NSFW)

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 8 December 2023 18:29 (four months ago) link

ai bots, crypto scammers, nazis, it all happens on x

lag∞n, Friday, 8 December 2023 18:59 (four months ago) link

I would be sobbing in self-loathing anguish every time I hit send

For that job, it helps to have an inability to feel any semblance of emotion, especially empathy

octobeard, Friday, 8 December 2023 19:37 (four months ago) link

tfw grok is woke:

https://i.imgur.com/fD9zfU8.png

mark s, Saturday, 9 December 2023 13:40 (four months ago) link

sir, weve lost grok

lag∞n, Saturday, 9 December 2023 14:58 (four months ago) link

its pretty funny they think that 1 this computer program is on the verge of sentience 2 it has betrayed them

lag∞n, Saturday, 9 December 2023 15:24 (four months ago) link

i like how when they try to reason with it its just all im a computer i have no idea what any of this means, and theyre like tragically the intelligent machine has gone woke

lag∞n, Saturday, 9 December 2023 15:52 (four months ago) link

Good bit on the lameness of Grok’s alleged humor

https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/8/23992489/xai-musk-grok-humor-chatbot

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 9 December 2023 15:54 (four months ago) link

lol iirc this was the genius level question that inspired building grok in the first place

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:izpllsvcyml7mcwanxfzdgkf/bafkreigl2anxnw6eoukaufqzn4kueckjwtml7sufaou4zrl3g33sfx4ot4@jpeg

lag∞n, Saturday, 9 December 2023 16:09 (four months ago) link

i wonder what they used to build this thing, maybe some open source stuff that already had the woke built in, or maybe even elon realized that making a racist chatbot just isnt going to go over well

lag∞n, Saturday, 9 December 2023 16:11 (four months ago) link

wonder if that response is hardcoded

lag∞n, Saturday, 9 December 2023 16:14 (four months ago) link

an AI that tortures everyone who did not directly contribute to the advancement of this joke: woko's basilisk

mark s, Saturday, 9 December 2023 16:16 (four months ago) link

ahh lol theyre just using chatgpt and training the voice a lil

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:kyhug2d25ipcy4rscu3hdlhz/bafkreiaqj4berwsj75c5no4k2q47truu4gqtxn755teadzhost5x7osbxe@jpeg

lag∞n, Saturday, 9 December 2023 16:17 (four months ago) link

that makes a lot of sense as they got this thing off the ground real fast

lag∞n, Saturday, 9 December 2023 16:18 (four months ago) link

time to deploy the jemblificator

mark s, Saturday, 9 December 2023 16:18 (four months ago) link

Yaccarino make a post without using an exclamation point challenge

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 9 December 2023 16:25 (four months ago) link

funnily enough I think asking an AI bot to keep answering that question will actually make it dig in deeper, it's not going to change it's answer

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 9 December 2023 16:48 (four months ago) link

It's probably finetuned on one of the many open source datasets out there for assistants, most of which get their data from GPT-4 outputs. You see it happen a lot on smaller OSS models too.

carson dial, Saturday, 9 December 2023 16:55 (four months ago) link

interesting

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GA6X9iJaoAA0TOh?format=png&name=900x900

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 December 2023 15:54 (four months ago) link

lol

Musk is going to kill Grok before the year is done pic.twitter.com/FUyBht3xnT

— Ed Zitron (@edzitron) December 9, 2023

groovypanda, Sunday, 10 December 2023 17:11 (four months ago) link

Musk is hosting a "Spaces" chat with a group including Alex Jones, Andrew Tate, Vivek Ramaswamy, Matt Gaetz, and Jack Posobiec. Whee.

This will bring the advertisers back. pic.twitter.com/NbUJreuyeG

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) December 10, 2023

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 10 December 2023 21:17 (four months ago) link

jfc

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 December 2023 22:15 (four months ago) link

The first virtual space to actually produce fumes.

nashwan, Sunday, 10 December 2023 22:33 (four months ago) link

The Travelling Will-Roofies

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 11 December 2023 02:24 (four months ago) link

Scandinavian labour unions cucking foreign Capitalists one solidarity strike at a time.
1) Postal service says fuck off in solidarity with auto industry strikes
2) Pension fund pulls investment in solidarity
3) Workers from different Swedish industries, Denmark's largest trade… pic.twitter.com/iC5LOzLnaM

— Yugopnik 🇵🇸 (@yugopnik) December 11, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 11 December 2023 15:54 (four months ago) link

its funny that its all over a couple hundred machinists who he couldve easily just given what they wanted

lag∞n, Monday, 11 December 2023 15:59 (four months ago) link

lol response xhit “🎶 No one knows what it's like... to be the bad cuck... to be the sad cuck... from the emerald mine... 🎶”

digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Monday, 11 December 2023 20:02 (four months ago) link

Behind Blueskies

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 11 December 2023 20:12 (four months ago) link

i've read Vivek didn't mute during that spaces chat and everyone could hear him pissing

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 11 December 2023 20:16 (four months ago) link

I like that it was Alex Jones who pointed out the sound of pissing.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 11 December 2023 20:28 (four months ago) link

Musk is hosting a "Spaces" chat with a group including Alex Jones, Andrew Tate, Vivek Ramaswamy, Matt Gaetz, and Jack Posobiec.

When Mom says we have The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants at home...

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 11 December 2023 20:44 (four months ago) link

You have to imagine that the piss was the most valuable thing shared there

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 11 December 2023 20:45 (four months ago) link

yeah listening to Ramaswamy pissing in a bottle>>>Ramaswamy talking

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 11 December 2023 20:52 (four months ago) link

gives him a chance to rhyme "freestyle" with "peestyle" in his raps

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 11 December 2023 20:59 (four months ago) link

BREAKING: Tesla is recalling nearly all of the vehicles it has sold in the US to date to fix an autopilot fault. This follows a two-year government investigation into a series of crashes linked to the Autopilot system. 🔗 https://t.co/mbpmQvj8MX

📷Getty pic.twitter.com/NyE6OZwLGO

— WIRED (@WIRED) December 13, 2023

*remote software update

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 14:24 (four months ago) link

"some have worked out these systems can be fooled by hanging a weight over a steering wheel spoke"
-- me when it's time to tweet

"in extreme cases, drivers have been caught illegally sitting in the back seat while autopilot was switched on"
-- lol suddenly having to control a speeding car from the back seat is literally one of my recurrent nightmares

mark s, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 14:40 (four months ago) link

How does this not immediately invalidate your business and tank your stock

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 14:58 (four months ago) link

This feature should never have been made available for personal automobiles. . Are they idiots? Did they not know people would ignore the tepid warnings and stop paying attention when using a feature called fucking Autopilot???

treeship., Wednesday, 13 December 2023 15:38 (four months ago) link

It makes me so angry that deadly technology can just be pushed out into the marketplace with no accountability. “Move fast and break things” should not include human bones crushed by unmanned automobiles.

treeship., Wednesday, 13 December 2023 15:39 (four months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKiOcpbh3Ks

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 15:40 (four months ago) link

They should be recalled for real. If fully self driving cars can be safe, fine. Until then, keep them off the road.

treeship., Wednesday, 13 December 2023 15:41 (four months ago) link

look u can't make an omelette (le epic self-driving car with fart effect horn sounds) without breaking a few eggs (colliding with and immolating hundreds if not thousands of humans)

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 15:44 (four months ago) link

predictably Elon dickriders all over that thread pointing out it's an over the air software download, even though the article says that and it's still indicative of a major issue with the technology

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 15:45 (four months ago) link

-- lol suddenly having to control a speeding car from the back seat is literally one of my recurrent nightmares

― mark s, Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:40 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

wait what, me too, is this a common thing???

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 15:52 (four months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhnrrLxQEVQ

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 16:08 (four months ago) link

Yeah, it amazes me that this feature was just allowed to be put out there with absolutely no regulation or long term safety studies. Just, here you go! Good luck at surviving lol.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 16:13 (four months ago) link

especially given how strictly regulated the auto industry generally is, just more proof that when you have as much money as Elon Musk you can pretty much do what you want

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 16:17 (four months ago) link

It's not just out there for people to fuck around with, aren't there actually government sanctioned driverless taxis in, like, San Fran and Los Angeles? Just insane.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 16:22 (four months ago) link

yeah i cannot imagine releasing autopilot, as done, to the public, but i guess we to suppose that their refusal to attempt to install any controls on the system (eg limitation of use to certain hiways) is some weird libertarian _avoid liability with this one weird trick!_, like they can just "ay driver, you got this, don't be a madman! but also, imagine the sleep you could catch up on. damn, imagine sex in the back seat while being driven by a robot. ha that's hilarious! welp. gotta go. stay tuned for downloads! you take care now!" *wink* *horrendous carnage* "damn. that's on you, i guess."

even safety systems/limits will have a certain failure rate. so do they think that placing safety systems/risks which might fail is too risky, liability wise? while letting drivers play 52 pickup is less risky to them? for automobiles?! batshit crazy. i truly cannot imagine what their regulatory counsel said to get here.

digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 16:43 (four months ago) link

xpost Well after their major fuckups here Cruise got kicked to the curb in SF. I think the other one is still going? But I guess it actually 'works'

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 16:44 (four months ago) link

A friend posted from the backseat of one of those driverless SF cabs the other day and everyone was like ARE YOU NUTS GET OUT OF THERE.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 17:22 (four months ago) link

Some Driverless IA car is going to solve the Trolley Problem by deciding that every pedestrian is a potential Hitler and running them all over.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 17:25 (four months ago) link

better not question it if you want to be favored after the singularity

treeship., Wednesday, 13 December 2023 17:38 (four months ago) link

It makes me so angry that deadly technology can just be pushed out into the marketplace with no accountability. “Move fast and break things” should not include human bones crushed by unmanned automobiles.

― treeship., Wednesday, December 13, 2023 10:39 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 17:41 (four months ago) link

look we’re all being v negative about tesla’s self-driving tech but i think u need to remember it’s clearly labelled as a beta version so let’s all just relax, put outlet feet up on the dashboard and veer wildly into a passing cyclist

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 17:50 (four months ago) link

elon's weird mom currently attacking joe biden on twitter

mark s, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 17:57 (four months ago) link

can't sue a beta version, very clever.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 17:57 (four months ago) link

someone asked why elon’s mom needs all those dalmatians and now I can’t see her without thinking about it

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 18:59 (four months ago) link

elon's weird mom currently attacking joe biden on twitter

― mark s, Wednesday, December 13, 2023 12:57 PM (fifty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

aw yeah thats the stuff baby

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:04 (four months ago) link

she is really evil looking lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:04 (four months ago) link

Elon's mom has got it going on

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:09 (four months ago) link

I remember reading a story about a guy snoozing in his Tesla on Hwy 101 south of San Francisco, they had to chase him for 40 miles before he woke up - and thinking, 'this is not good, not good at all'

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:13 (four months ago) link

would be amazing if it was safe to do that, alas

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:16 (four months ago) link

"I am at a loss as to how customers continue to use the product not as intended. clearly this is just a few bad apples"

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:20 (four months ago) link

"for occasional relief of driving-related duties and obligations"

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:27 (four months ago) link

would be amazing if it was safe to do that, alas

we have that - they're called buses and trains

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:29 (four months ago) link

Driverless cars don't kill people, drivers sleeping in the backseat kill people.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:29 (four months ago) link

we have that - they're called buses and trains

― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, December 13, 2023 2:29 PM (thirty-six seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

those are good too

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:29 (four months ago) link

buses and trains are socialism, why should my tax dollars pay for a cushy transit system that isn't very affordable and doesn't get you where you need to go quickly. only car drivers are Americans

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:30 (four months ago) link

Amtrak Joe has a spending bill he wants you to peruse

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:32 (four months ago) link

in the future a car will just be a self driving bed you jump into as it drives past

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:32 (four months ago) link

training sessions will be offered to prepare you for the jump

tuition fees may be paid in Ethereum

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:35 (four months ago) link

If you think about it, no one would get hit by cars if there were no people. Driverless cars, pedestrian free world.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:44 (four months ago) link

Imagine all the people
Not existing today

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:50 (four months ago) link

Anyone who has existed within the same space as motorists should surely just assume that many of them are going to flagrantly disregard the things that they are supposed to do. Estimating conservatively, I'd say I'm nearly run down about three times a week while walking to/from work by people who just absolutely positively must make that left turn at this precise moment, vehicular manslaughter charges be damned.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 20:04 (four months ago) link

And that's the debate, right? Are cars without drivers actually any worse than cars *with* drivers?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 20:11 (four months ago) link

I lost two very close friends to car accidents. One of them mowed down by a drink driver, the other was an unconscious passenger after the dickhead driver crashed into the side of a house and she was killed by fire as the injured driver crawled out of the wreck. Both responsible drivers had to face legal accountability in a court of law, same should apply to tech billionaires putting out experimental vehicular homicide machines on the streets.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 20:14 (four months ago) link

Yes?

the new drip king (DJP), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 20:16 (four months ago) link

(That was an xpost to Josh)

the new drip king (DJP), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 20:17 (four months ago) link

can a car be drunk

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 20:23 (four months ago) link

wasn't a huge part of the Tesla hype from like 2017-2019 the fact that they would soon drive themselves? in fact isn't that how their stock price got so high? are the driver assist features not called "autopilot"?? like uhhh yeah of course some people are gonna take that literally

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 20:42 (four months ago) link

i was eventually struck bike commuting fractured skull severe tbi 2 mos in hospital. most drivers are pretty cool and kind if annoyed. but they are careless as FUCK, and sone shit cannot be undone.

digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 21:23 (four months ago) link

i have no trust wrt to robots until they actually FEEL risk and FEAR guilt.

digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 21:24 (four months ago) link

and relentless typos. endless typos.

digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 21:25 (four months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgw8MEwTVwM

omar little, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 21:32 (four months ago) link

i always assume now that every vehicle around me is being driven by someone who will make the worst possible decision w/r/t me and my safety.

huge thread, can't load it, so maybe this was posted already.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/11/briefing/us-traffic-deaths.html

omar little, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 21:35 (four months ago) link

the Tesla hype from like 2017-2019

Afaict, that's still the hype fans buy into. Full self-driving, any day now. Any ... day ... now ....

And yeah, I didn't mean that self-driving cars were in some way better than human drivers, just that human drivers already suuuuuuuuuck and it's hard for me to believe (as much as I don't want them) that self-driving cars would necessarily be worse, at least statistically. Literally every single day I see something that either enrages me or shake my head or makes me breathe a sigh of relief. People blowing through stop signs and red lights. People driving at night with their headlights off. People making insane u-turns in busy intersections during rush hour. I have friends that have witnessed literal gun fights between speeding cars, like something out of an action movie. There's a hot dog stand here that has been boarded up since October, when a car crashed into it. Needless to say, the hot dog stand is not in the middle of the street.

It does blow my mind that even a relative handful of self-driving cars are out there. I don't even know how the insurance works on that, or how the legality works. Who is at fault if a self-driving car crashes? The car manufacturer? The software maker? The passengers? The owner of the company? All of the above and more, probably. I'm shocked there hasn't been a big multi-pronged lawsuit yet.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 21:53 (four months ago) link

someone asked why elon’s mom needs all those dalmatians and now I can’t see her without thinking about it

these fruits never fall far from their poisonous trees
https://globalnews.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/trump8.jpg?w=2048

impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Thursday, 14 December 2023 09:40 (four months ago) link

that's Donald in prosthetics i can't be fooled

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 December 2023 15:28 (four months ago) link

That image explains so much about his hairstyling choices, and much more besides

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 December 2023 15:31 (four months ago) link

It does blow my mind that even a relative handful of self-driving cars are out there. I don't even know how the insurance works on that, or how the legality works. Who is at fault if a self-driving car crashes? The car manufacturer? The software maker? The passengers? The owner of the company? All of the above and more, probably. I'm shocked there hasn't been a big multi-pronged lawsuit yet.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 21:53 (yesterday) link

it makes no sense to me at all

treeship., Thursday, 14 December 2023 15:43 (four months ago) link

it was already a fraught proposition to force me onto the road with the average driver, now I might get killed because a car didn't see me or mistook me for a traffic light

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 December 2023 15:46 (four months ago) link

the self-driving thing is dumb and nearly every other automaker has lane detection, emergency braking, and some version of adaptive cruise control now, and most work better than tesla

if you want something that approaches self-driving, I think the comma.ai openpilot kits outperform tesla’s offering and they work in a bunch of vehicles

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 14 December 2023 16:35 (four months ago) link

recall tesla decided to go with some cheaper version of self driving tech that the entire rest of the industry thought was dumb and bad

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 December 2023 16:38 (four months ago) link

tesla self driving tech: why is it so bad and hated?

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 December 2023 16:54 (four months ago) link

xpost Iirc the standard is Lidar but Tesla went with something else.

Here's another question I have. Do you need a driver's license to be driven by a self-driving car? Isn't the presumption that if something went wrong, the passenger could take over?

The self-driving taxis, do you still sit in the back? Do you have access to the wheel/radio/A/C? Can you control those things with your voice?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 17:03 (four months ago) link

https://web.archive.org/web/20231211123948/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/11/briefing/us-traffic-deaths.html very distressing

the answer is for no one to leave their dwelling

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 14 December 2023 17:17 (four months ago) link

older teslas did have lidar. apparently elon’s bluster about how they didn’t need it was because he stopped paying the lidar vendor and

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 14 December 2023 17:27 (four months ago) link

The bar set for my young Aussie relatives is sooooo much higher than it is here. In Australia there are all these license levels that limit where and how you can drive until you're, like, 20. (ILX Aussies can correct me.) My sister in the UK, it took her at least a couple of tries to pass her license test, something she assured me was quite common there. But here in the US, states like Iowa let you get a permit at 14. 14! Iirc, one time my wife went in to take a test to renew her license and somehow forgot to do an entire page, but still passed.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 17:34 (four months ago) link

i passed my test in the uk and new york state. the NYS test is a joke.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 December 2023 17:48 (four months ago) link

luckily all the drivers i see in new york are excellent, the best in the world, so i guess the test doesn't matter.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 December 2023 17:49 (four months ago) link

PBKR's Dad: Did you pass?
PBKR, Age 16: Yes!
PBKR's Dad: You got lucky.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 14 December 2023 17:52 (four months ago) link

Florida's driving test doesn't include parallel parking (I learned how to via Youtube). in fact, my test didn't even leave the parking lot.

keep these things in mind if you ever plan to visit here and wish to bring your own vehicle

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 December 2023 17:59 (four months ago) link

Montana roads have weird quirks (a center lane that's just for turns, the fact that you can make a turn directly from a 25 mph road onto a 70 mph highway) but I passed the road test on my second try and now have a driver's license for the first time in 30 years. (I originally got my license at 19 in NJ but was a terrible driver, so I literally surrendered it — mailed it back to Trenton — in the early 90s because car insurance was ruinously expensive after multiple accidents. But there's no public transportation where I live now, so just letting my wife drive me around was untenable.)

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:09 (four months ago) link

I never took a driving test because you could do well enough in a drivers education course and skip it, unless you ended up getting randomly selected

I probably could have used a little more instruction. I think I’d rate my driving as average now, although the number of absolutely bizarre moves I’ve seen people make lately make me think that maybe the average is slipping

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:16 (four months ago) link

All you bad drivers confessing your road sins explains so much of what I see out there. Have you considered self-driving cars?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:22 (four months ago) link

xxp I took several amazing drives across Montana in the summer of 91. IIRC, at least back then, the speed limit was more of a suggestion.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:41 (four months ago) link

In the absence of stringent licensing standards, I keep hoping that the specter of a vehicular manslaughter trial is at least occasionally enough to encourage motorists to pay some modicum of attention to the world around them. Even though I'm sure we all can agree that concerning ourselves with the well-being of others and the actions we can take to avoid actively compromising that well-being is soooo dumb and boring, gah.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:44 (four months ago) link

half of all drivers are worse than average! I’m just realistic

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:27 (four months ago) link

I am an excellent driver.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:29 (four months ago) link

My eldest is a tow truck driver. She regularly extracts cars from situations that are truly mystifying. You might be surprised at the number of cars that end up in trees.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:29 (four months ago) link

half of all drivers are worse than average! I’m just realistic

― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, December 14, 2023 2:27 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

has this country ever considered raising the skills of the average driver via education and testing? something to think about.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:50 (four months ago) link

Counterpart: thinking is stupid.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:56 (four months ago) link

The keys to good driving are alertness and patience. Most drivers lack these qualities even when they aren't behind a steering wheel.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:56 (four months ago) link

It's hard to be patient when you're surrounded by stupidity. Of course, being surrounded by stupidity is what makes it important to be alert.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:58 (four months ago) link

Raising license standards would require us to have more alternatives to driving, can’t have that. Buses create poor people out of thin air!

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 14 December 2023 20:01 (four months ago) link

Haha, one of the Metro Atlanta counties voted down light rail a few decades ago because they thought it would bring crime. Right, someone's gonna jack your 72" TV and carry it home on the train.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 20:02 (four months ago) link

In Australia there are all these license levels that limit where and how you can drive until you're, like, 20. (ILX Aussies can correct me.)

Yeah basically. You can get a license at 16 but its a Learners permit, you have to have a fully licenced driver with you at all times and can have zero BAC. I think theres also limits to the kind of car you're allowed to drive (you cant drive overpowered V8s for example). You have to have the Ls for 120 hours of driving and then pass a full driving test for Provisional (P) license which is in 2 parts,12 months on P1 then 3 years on P2. after that you're good to go on a full license with none of the speed/car restrictions.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 14 December 2023 21:39 (four months ago) link

My (takes breath) brother-in-law's sister's son bought a beat up truck at the start of his license process. As he got his hours and gradually moved up his ranks he fixed up the truck, and the truck was more or less good to go just as he was. And a week later, he crashed it.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 21:43 (four months ago) link

I kinda feel like all prospective drivers should have to log like 100 hours with a psychologist in the passenger seat gauging their general mental and emotional fitness to pilot a multi-ton death machine.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 December 2023 21:44 (four months ago) link

Driver's ed used to be part of the public school curriculum. I think some schools still offer it, but most do not. Private driving schools are an alternative. Having three kids who took the course, I'd say it produced . . . mixed results.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 21:46 (four months ago) link

xpost And then the only way to pass the test is to admit you shouldn't be driving. The only way to win the game is not to play the game!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 21:46 (four months ago) link

Our high school offers driver's ed, it's super useful, and if you pass it, you don't have to take the test at the DMV.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 21:47 (four months ago) link

Speaking of curriculum


Elon Musk has plans to open a new university in Texas, according to tax filings.

Bloomberg reported the filings show Musk donated $100m to his charity, The Foundation, to establish a primary and secondary Stem school in Austin – and later to seek accreditation from the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Commission on Colleges for launching a university.

The Foundation said the curriculum for the school and university would “combine formal instruction by experienced faculty in subjects such as mathematics, science, engineering and physics, alongside hands-on learning experience including simulations, case studies, fabrication/design projects, and labs”.

Not the 'Musk Foundation' - THE FOUNDATION, as if there were no other

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 14 December 2023 21:49 (four months ago) link

Further echoes of Kanye. Will the teachers be AI terminals?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 21:50 (four months ago) link

Cool, yes, let's get more people out there making cars crash and rockets explode and creating online nazi hangouts, please and as quickly as possible

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 December 2023 22:01 (four months ago) link

Nazi Moon Mars Base

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 22:02 (four months ago) link

They can have it, I would be thrilled if every Nazi moved to Mars.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 22:08 (four months ago) link

With no space suits.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 22:09 (four months ago) link

Driver's ed used to be part of the public school curriculum. I think some schools still offer it, but most do not. Private driving schools are an alternative. Having three kids who took the course, I'd say it produced . . . mixed results.

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, December 14, 2023 4:46 PM bookmarkflaglink

anybody can drive around on a closed course in circles, but at least it teaches you how to start the car and get it moving without running over someone in a parking lot

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 December 2023 22:10 (four months ago) link

supposedly someone in my brother's driver's ed class crashed the car while dicking around

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 December 2023 22:12 (four months ago) link

Give that man a license.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 22:14 (four months ago) link

I nearly ran the car over a raised median in driver's ed. TBF I really had like zero idea what I was doing or how to control the dang thing.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 December 2023 22:21 (four months ago) link

our teacher tried to scare everybody by showing videos of people burning alive in car wrecks and the aftermath and calling them "crispy critters" and warning us we'd turn into critters if we didn't learn how to drive and that maybe 25% of us would be critters even if we drove perfectly

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 December 2023 22:22 (four months ago) link

One day of our class was spent watching a video of a Jeep using its winch to get out of a sand dune. Maybe useful info for future Cybertruck owners.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 22:24 (four months ago) link

I did driver's ed at Sears, we had to do a lot of real driving but our parallel parking was a couple of cones in the parking lot. Given how often I'm doing 80 to keep up with traffic in a 75 zone, it's weird to get flashbacks of the terror the first time my instructor was like "okay, time to get on the highway!" and the limits were all still 55 around here then.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 14 December 2023 23:27 (four months ago) link

I got yelled at because I panic braked and swerved when a dog ran into the road in front of us. "Just hit the dog" is technically a sound bit of advice but I'd probably still risk my life and anyone in another lane if that happened.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 14 December 2023 23:30 (four months ago) link

I hate driving (and dont drive) and part of that is thanks to my mother trying to teach me and being a complete panicky freakouter. I was trying to slowly pull the car over onto a grassy shoulder (in a country town with NO traffic) and she fucking shrieked at me OMG OMG WHAT ARE YOU DOING as if I was just idly running off the road.

Fuck that shit.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 14 December 2023 23:32 (four months ago) link

I taught both of my kids, and I did my best to stay quiet and neutral but boy did I breathe a sigh of relief once we got home and I changed out of my sweat-soaked shirt.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 23:47 (four months ago) link

Same here. Although, two of my three kids who drive are better drivers than I am now.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 23:48 (four months ago) link

I know it's rockist and all but I do think learning how to drive on manual transmission forces you to think more about what you're doing. Neither of my kids drive yet, but the thing I keep telling them is, this is the most dangerous thing you will do every day. You need to pay attention to it.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 15 December 2023 03:24 (four months ago) link

Good luck finding a car with manual transmission in the US.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 December 2023 03:29 (four months ago) link

our teacher tried to scare everybody by showing videos of people burning alive in car wrecks and the aftermath and calling them "crispy critters" and warning us we'd turn into critters if we didn't learn how to drive and that maybe 25% of us would be critters even if we drove perfectly

Yeah, we got to watch the death movies in high school too. A couple of years later I saw some of the same movies being projected behind the Butthole Surfers while they played, which lessened the impact somewhat.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 15 December 2023 03:31 (four months ago) link

After driving only stick since 1990, our cars are now automatic only and I feel the opposite. Not having to think about shifting keeps my hands on the wheel and me focused on the road. It's also much nicer when you do a lot of stop-and-go driving.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 15 December 2023 03:32 (four months ago) link

Good luck finding a car with manual transmission in the US.

I own one, but we bought it in 1997. We're willing to sell it to any interested ilxor for a fair price!

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 15 December 2023 03:32 (four months ago) link

"okay, time to get on the highway!"

^^^ very vivid memories of this, a nightmarish white-knuckle experience of sweat and absolute terror.

not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Friday, 15 December 2023 03:39 (four months ago) link

My driver's ed instructor taught me how to whip shitties and do J turns.

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Friday, 15 December 2023 04:32 (four months ago) link

Good luck finding a car with manual transmission in the US.

Oh I know, and I'm not rockist enough to buy one just to make my kids learn on it. But it does require a different level of engagement. I think engagement is good when you're learning to drive.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 15 December 2023 04:44 (four months ago) link

And PBKR, I agree. Mostly thinking about learning to drive, just the mechanics of thinking about when you're accelerating and decelerating, thinking about the machine you're operating.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 15 December 2023 04:46 (four months ago) link

xxxps, still occasionally get a dissociated feeling sometimes thinking about how millions of us are zipping around at 80mph in two tons of steel. The only comparable feeling I get is sitting still on a runway and watching a jumbo jet take off on a parallel runway. We’re all constantly spitting in God’s eye.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 15 December 2023 06:20 (four months ago) link

You shouldn’t be driving 80mph probably

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 15 December 2023 06:22 (four months ago) link

You shouldn’t be driving 80mph probably

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 15 December 2023 06:22 (four months ago) link

i tried to learn to drive and got worse as the lessons went on

plax (ico), Friday, 15 December 2023 11:35 (four months ago) link

i love that this turned into manual vs automatic because i read the article upstream yesterday (without seeing the follow up discussion above this post). driving later yesterday i got thinking about 75% of cars in europe are manual-- it sorta freaked me out wrt driving behavior. despite visits there, i had no idea of that difference in man/auto norms.

for me, and to me, it's a huge change in driver behavior and engagement. there is significantly less required attention with automatic imo.

i learned and lived to 30 y/o only on manual. i mostly got automatic because it allows more space for the distractions of kids. and to be sure, i don't think i was consciously thinking "hey i can be more dangerous and pay attention to things off the road." it was just clearly "easier" to me. but in thinking last evening, that ability to engage in distracted driving is the precise effect. and probably i still wouldn't wish to return to manual for most matters, automatic transmissions are geared and shift behavior is adequate for how i drive now.

digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Friday, 15 December 2023 14:27 (four months ago) link

came to thread hoping to comment suchly and was only a little surprised the thread jumped on it meanwhiles.

digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Friday, 15 December 2023 14:29 (four months ago) link

I recently test drove a couple of cars with my 22 year old, who was buying his first new-ish car. He saw a VW Golf, very sporty, with a five-speed. He stalled it out about five times in a left hand turn lane lol. To be fair, it had a really sensitive clutch.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 15 December 2023 14:38 (four months ago) link

My sister and sister-in-law both had to learn to drive stick on the other side of the car/road, I can't even imagine.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 December 2023 14:43 (four months ago) link

the first time I drove stick it was the company truck for this factory I was working at. I had to go to a place 25 miles away and it was terrifying. because I really didn't know how to drive stick. and I told them that repeatedly. but apparently I was the guy who had to do it (because I'd only been working there 3 weeks I guess) so I got a 2 minute tutorial and was sent on my merry way. I think I stalled it out at every single intersection. but then the second stickshift I drove it was mostly fine. this truck's clutch apparently was just really bad. thanks, guys!

frogbs, Friday, 15 December 2023 14:49 (four months ago) link

That's why they call them clutch players, because if given a two-minute tutorial on how to drive stick they get it done.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 December 2023 14:54 (four months ago) link

having yoru kid drive you for the first time is truly a test of the nerves

| (Latham Green), Friday, 15 December 2023 15:46 (four months ago) link

having your kid teach you how to drive even more so

esp when the child seat doesn't get high enough

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 December 2023 16:05 (four months ago) link

My kid passed his test about three hours ago (UK). He's had a fucker of a time since the pandemic and it's the one thing he can focus on without impediment; I couldn't be happier for him. (And I can genuinely say I've always felt safe with him in the car.)
Now I've got to sell a bollock to afford the extraordinarily expensive insurance.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Friday, 15 December 2023 16:34 (four months ago) link

Fwiw, I'm glad I learned manual. It was never really presented as a choice when I learned (early 90s) - everyone taught in manual and you had to properly search out someone teaching automatic.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Friday, 15 December 2023 16:35 (four months ago) link

I learned manual on an 91 Ford Ranger we called the Deranger in the Humboldt hills, bless those days.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 16 December 2023 00:44 (four months ago) link

I learned to drive manual on a 1979 VW Rabbit, which was old even then (1990)

Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 16 December 2023 00:49 (four months ago) link

I'm terrified of my kid driving. She's 14 so I should probably start letting her practice in parking lots. She's pretty erratic and clumsy as it is, I can't imagine what driving is going to be like. She has driven an old car out at my parents place in the country and that wasn't too bad.

I'm glad we're not in Houston anymore. That would be a shit city for a new learner.

Cow_Art, Saturday, 16 December 2023 05:01 (four months ago) link

I've driven a tractor at slow chugging pace through a field, and electric go-karts, dodgems, but no fucking chance a car on the roads and motorways with many other vehicles. That's just an insane idea. Once a boss offered me a more than decent payrise and he offered to pay for a few months worth of driving lessons if I showed some genuine interest in getting a driving license. I said thanks, but no thanks.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 16 December 2023 09:39 (four months ago) link

If I had to learn to drive with a manual, I would never have learned how to drive. I've tried several times to learn how to drive one and failed each time. It's like middle school algebra: something I should be able to do that seems to be forever beyond me.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Saturday, 16 December 2023 10:19 (four months ago) link

I passed my driver's test on automatic. Then a year later got a car that was manual so had to learn that. My Dad and I got in a huge shouting match in the car after he had given me the basics, so I yelled at him to get out and I figured out the rest.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Saturday, 16 December 2023 13:40 (four months ago) link

I passed my test in an automatic as well. in the UK that means I can't legally drive a manual which is just as well for everyone else on the road. I haven't driven a car since my wife died and not sure if I will again tbh. parking it here would be a total nightmare anyway

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 16 December 2023 13:59 (four months ago) link

One of the things I'm grateful to my father for is teaching me how to drive. His laconic and patient nature served him well as a driving instructor. He drove us out to some dirt roads outside the city and just let me make mistakes on our three-speed 1978 Chevy Malibu until I figured it out.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 16 December 2023 21:24 (four months ago) link

worst manual transmission experience: one time the last 14-foot u-haul available when i was moving was stick, and first gear got you to like 5mph, second to 15, third to 25, etc. -- merging onto an interstate was deeply unpleasant

mookieproof, Saturday, 16 December 2023 21:56 (four months ago) link

Most of the cars I’ve owned have been manual - I grew up on them and I always appreciated how dealers would discount them because most folks couldn’t drive them. My car insurance agent once told me that the best anti-theft device is a manual

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 16 December 2023 22:29 (four months ago) link

Also my fave parts of early The Amazing Race episodes was watching folks completely lose it when confronted with a manual

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 16 December 2023 22:31 (four months ago) link

i have adhd and double vision, which i thought was a normal everyday thing but apparently isn't? i don't think i have strabismus, either. i just see two of everything unless i get these special glasses with "prisms", which means i can't order them online, they have to be ground by hand, probably with a stone mill or something. also, apparently other people can just move their eyes to the left and right to see laterally, like, to check in the rear-view mirror? i can't do that. i have to turn my head to see what's in the rear-view mirror. this is incredibly dangerous and i probably shouldn't be driving! nobody's ever told me i'm not allowed to drive, though, only that i'm a bad driver.

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 16 December 2023 22:38 (four months ago) link

i'm 48 years old and i'm figuring this out now for the first time in my life, lol. apparently it's my left eye. i literally can't move my eyes to look to the left of me. i can look fine to the right of me, but i can't look to the left of me. this might also be related to the way one of my eyes is always squinty. when i get double vision i squint one of my eyes because that way i can see one of things again.

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 16 December 2023 22:41 (four months ago) link

I have no idea how an automatic even works. I don't think I've ever even been in a car with automatic gears. I can only think of one person I've ever met who said she had an automatic.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Saturday, 16 December 2023 23:01 (four months ago) link

I have no idea how an automatic even works. I don't think I've ever even been in a car with automatic gears. I can only think of one person I've ever met who said she had an automatic.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Saturday, 16 December 2023 23:01 (four months ago) link

Hmmmm. Shall I say it again?

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Saturday, 16 December 2023 23:02 (four months ago) link

I own one, but we bought it in 1997. We're willing to sell it to any interested ilxor for a fair price!

― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, December 14, 2023 10:32 PM (two days ago)

what kinda car is it?

, Saturday, 16 December 2023 23:48 (four months ago) link

A Subaru Legacy station wagon (it has a sticker under the Legacy nameplate that says "Brighton" - whatever that means). It was the bare bones model. No extras. We did buy the four little floor carpets for it.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 16 December 2023 23:59 (four months ago) link

The Amazing Race thing still happens once in a while! Generally the contestants know this is a thing to practice beforehand, but they can still get flummoxed in the heat of the moment.

not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 17 December 2023 00:11 (four months ago) link

a traditional automatic works by using one of multiple variations on traditional gearing and automatically shifting between them, with varying results depending on the age and model of the car. some have settings to shift more aggressively or less so to get better fuel economy

newer vehicles, especially electric ones, use a continuously variable transmission. there are a few mechanisms, but imagine the gear that controls the ratio being cone-shaped. so there are not distinct gears, there’s a spectrum of ratios you can move through depending on current speed and desired acceleration, etc

if you’re worried that this is drive-by-wire, I wouldn’t. nearly every vehicle has had some drive-by-wire aspects for many decades

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 17 December 2023 02:19 (four months ago) link

I have no idea how an automatic even works.

I mean that's kind of the point, they just do. you press the accelerator and the car goes forward

I had a much better time when I tried to learn to drive in the 90s, cars only had 4 gears then. now they have 5 or 6, I just can't do it, my left hand is too unco-ordinated. the instructor would tell me to go from 1st to 3rd and I'd put it in 5th and the car would stall. or even worse, go down from 5th to 4th and I'd put in 2nd. then he'd get mad and tell me I'm fucking up his gear box. you told me to do it mate, not my fault you're a shit teacher

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 17 December 2023 02:44 (four months ago) link

anyway most of the stuff I'd been told about automatic cars was absolute bullshit. oh they can't deal with hills? total bollocks. I lived in Hastings at the top of a really steep hill, my car zipped up it like it wasn't even there. my mum's car was manual and shuddered the whole way up there. it's all lies

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 17 December 2023 02:48 (four months ago) link

On steep downhills it is kind of nice to be able to gear down manually as an adjunct to braking. Other than that the continuously variable automatics I've driven are as good or better.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 17 December 2023 03:45 (four months ago) link

I always found changing gears incredibly stressful whereas breaking is really easy so I don't really know why it would be better. this is something the US has got right

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 17 December 2023 03:49 (four months ago) link

I don't really know why it would be better.

Chances are you've never descended a road that starts at 9500 ft above sea level and ends at 1000 ft. Brakes can overheat and fail in those circumstances.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 17 December 2023 03:52 (four months ago) link

everything i know about car transmissions (which is very little) comes from having built lego kits. they're really good! although mine did not feature a synchromesh

mookieproof, Sunday, 17 December 2023 03:57 (four months ago) link

xp true and that's a thing that people do all the time

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 17 December 2023 03:59 (four months ago) link

Maybe not all the time, but in the western USA it certainly has its applications, especially if you predictably spend time driving in the mountains because you enjoy spending time in the mountains and they are accessible nearby.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 17 December 2023 04:09 (four months ago) link

Chances are you've never descended a road that starts at 9500 ft above sea level and ends at 1000 ft. Brakes can overheat and fail in those circumstances.


By far my favorite feature of EVs is using regenerative motor braking to add power back into the battery. I drive up to Mt Wilson a couple times a month and recover it all back except for a percentage or two

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 17 December 2023 08:05 (four months ago) link

nearly every automatic transmission vehicle has an equivalent to engine braking or downshifting, at least everything I’ve driven has?

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 17 December 2023 15:22 (four months ago) link

chipping away chipping away: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-commentary/elon-musk-tesla-crash-1234930544/

mark s, Sunday, 17 December 2023 17:51 (four months ago) link

xpost Yeah, some automatic low gear. L2, etc.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 December 2023 17:58 (four months ago) link

moving to an automatic next month, probably for good at this stage id imagine and ill miss the control but will get used to it

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 December 2023 18:04 (four months ago) link

I drove manual transmission autos exclusively for 30 years. Now I drive an automatic 95% of the time. There's not a lot to miss. It's all just driving, but some driving involves more left foot/right hand activity.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 17 December 2023 19:07 (four months ago) link

almost no manuals are sold anymore in the usa anymore its around ~1% rip

lag∞n, Sunday, 17 December 2023 19:09 (four months ago) link

Yous are all fannies. It's just a gear stick and a clutch.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Sunday, 17 December 2023 19:28 (four months ago) link

I feel like we are having a debate from 1988

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 17 December 2023 19:33 (four months ago) link

chances are you've never descended a road that starts at 9500 ft above sea level and ends at 1000 ft. Brakes can overheat and fail in those circumstances.

I'll remember this next time I drop my daughter off at violin lessons and run to Target

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 17 December 2023 19:35 (four months ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Sunday, 17 December 2023 19:37 (four months ago) link

I love it when ilx tells everyone how to drive

brimstead, Sunday, 17 December 2023 19:39 (four months ago) link

You should see the football thread.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Sunday, 17 December 2023 19:48 (four months ago) link

i am nearly 56 and have never driven an automatic.
i kinda like the whole process re manual.
in my head : automatic = more stuff that can go wrong.
i like my cars to be simple and basic.
as little s/w in charge as possible.
and yeah, i know, old man shouting at the clouds meme etc ..

mark e, Sunday, 17 December 2023 20:06 (four months ago) link

nearly every automatic transmission vehicle has an equivalent to engine braking or downshifting, at least everything I’ve driven has?

― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, December 17, 2023 10:22 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is true most automatics have S and/or L gears for that sort of thing, also you can pump the breaks down a mountain to avoid overheating

lag∞n, Sunday, 17 December 2023 20:09 (four months ago) link

i do not know how to drive a "stick"

treeship., Sunday, 17 December 2023 20:10 (four months ago) link

its not that hard good to learn if you have the opportunity

lag∞n, Sunday, 17 December 2023 20:16 (four months ago) link

manuals used to get better gas milage than automatics but thats no longer true, new automatic transmissions of all types (planetary, dual clutch, cvt) work really good in general now, also a lot of the new related tech like adaptive cruise control is good too, manuals can be fun to drive and def feel more connected to the true mechanical nature of cars, but crawling around in traffic with them kinda sucks

lag∞n, Sunday, 17 December 2023 20:16 (four months ago) link

double-declutchingly* heel-and-toe away goes roger mexico**

*for the real stick-hedz
**not ilx's roger mexico

mark s, Sunday, 17 December 2023 20:22 (four months ago) link

i always request an automatic when renting in the UK, and would never buy a manual.

computers are better at changing gear than me (and most other people).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 17 December 2023 20:42 (four months ago) link

I've only ever had manual cars but I guess I'll get an EV in the next 10 years or so so my manual days will be over. I quite like driving manual - I've had driving lessons in both the US and UK and it's more our crazy roads that make it harder here rather than the gears.

kinder, Sunday, 17 December 2023 20:52 (four months ago) link

This thread used to be a lot more entertaining.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, 17 December 2023 21:05 (four months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqL-2ZCPpjA

lag∞n, Sunday, 17 December 2023 21:20 (four months ago) link

I've had driving lessons in both the US and UK and it's more our crazy roads that make it harder here rather than the gears.

I learned to drive in the UK ahead of a move to the US and yeah the combination of larger roads and getting an automatic car made being a new driver a lot easier.

visiting, Sunday, 17 December 2023 22:26 (four months ago) link

This thread used to be a lot more entertaining.

Just whiling away the time as we wait for Mr Musk's next surpassingly stupid episode. He seems to be laying low rn.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 17 December 2023 22:30 (four months ago) link

i made it my pandemic hobby to learn how to drive a stick. it’s fun as hell and all i want to do is to road trip in my manual car

, Sunday, 17 December 2023 22:52 (four months ago) link

gets it

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 December 2023 22:52 (four months ago) link

aimless that’s a cool ride you have. if i had room i’d take you up on the offer. my favorite era of subies aesthetically

, Sunday, 17 December 2023 23:01 (four months ago) link

As a lifelong Alfa tragic it kills me to see their range 80% SUVs and, I think, no manual transmissions. Clinging to my 159 Ti.

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 17 December 2023 23:33 (four months ago) link

also you can pump the breaks down a mountain to avoid overheating

or I can give them a hard tap when the car in front of me slows down a lot more quickly than I anticipated

I think the last time I drove down from mountains lag∞n was in my car and that happened

so you guys hear anything stupid about Elon Musk today? nobody’s leaked the timeline on whether he knew his ex was releasing a toy called Grok and he named the stupid dad joke chatbot the same thing, or if it was vice versa

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 17 December 2023 23:39 (four months ago) link

Man all this talk of mountains makes me miss driving those curvy-ass parts of the 5 between Redding and the Oregon border. Fuck.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 17 December 2023 23:45 (four months ago) link

Or the 299! What an amazing road.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 17 December 2023 23:45 (four months ago) link

This is way off topic, but I was driving from SF up to a memorial service in Tacoma in late September 2018 and the Delta Fire broke out in Shasta County CA north of Redding. They closed Highway 5. I asked people at a restaurant in Redding which way I should go, and they said take 299 to 89 and go around to the East.

Well, that didn't work out at all. About a quarter of a mile from Redding on 299 the traffic was at a complete standstill. I went back to Redding and asked again, and they said take highway 44 to the south and east to 89. It was clear, and wended its way through a serious pine forest, with Mount Lassen visible in the distance, and was one of the most amazing roads I have ever driven on.

Dan S, Monday, 18 December 2023 00:16 (four months ago) link

I think the last time I drove down from mountains lag∞n was in my car and that happened

― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, December 17, 2023 6:39 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

nice, good times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kAIMlISHhU

lag∞n, Monday, 18 December 2023 01:05 (four months ago) link

wild how theres one tattoo in that video, different times (before tattoos were common)

lag∞n, Monday, 18 December 2023 01:18 (four months ago) link

engine braking is cool, i don’t think it’s widely taught. i understand some roads like pikes peak will have brake check stations on the downhill where they make you pull in to measure the temperature of your brakes, to make sure thryre not so hot as to cause brake fade. if you are an engine braker you can impress them with low temps.

, Monday, 18 December 2023 01:26 (four months ago) link

they should have a special engine breaker sticker to give to the good people

lag∞n, Monday, 18 December 2023 01:39 (four months ago) link

they should have a like a speed gun but for like brake temp and like salute you when you drive by engine braking all cold brakes like

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 18 December 2023 01:43 (four months ago) link

they should play a bugle as you cruise by on ice cold breaks

lag∞n, Monday, 18 December 2023 01:44 (four months ago) link

but if your breaks are overheated they should shoot you with guns

lag∞n, Monday, 18 December 2023 01:45 (four months ago) link

they should stop you for not having like....snow chains on your brakes so cold

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 18 December 2023 01:46 (four months ago) link

elon better be reading this i bet he is tho

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 18 December 2023 01:47 (four months ago) link

This is way off topic, but I was driving from SF up to a memorial service in Tacoma in late September 2018 and the Delta Fire broke out in Shasta County CA north of Redding. They closed Highway 5. I asked people at a restaurant in Redding which way I should go, and they said take 299 to 89 and go around to the East.

Well, that didn't work out at all. About a quarter of a mile from Redding on 299 the traffic was at a complete standstill. I went back to Redding and asked again, and they said take highway 44 to the south and east to 89. It was clear, and wended its way through a serious pine forest, with Mount Lassen visible in the distance, and was one of the most amazing roads I have ever driven on.


To respond way off topic— I also love both of these highways, lived off-grid about 15 miles from McCloud (on the 89) for about five months in 2016. It was pretty wonderful in a lot of ways, and also the most broke I have ever been… the succor of the mountains and the woods made it worth it to me, somehow.

Anyway, one can still buy houses up around there for next to nothing.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 18 December 2023 02:04 (four months ago) link

i was driving on 101 in humbolt once and got rerouted cause of landslides, driving on quasi sketchy mountain roads in torrential rain with all the detoured traffic trucks and whatnot, hours to go before i sleep

lag∞n, Monday, 18 December 2023 02:09 (four months ago) link

he gives his harness bells a shake
to ask if there is some mistake
the only other sound's the sweep
of an almost unused pedal brake

robert frosty brakepads, stopping by clutch on a snowy evening beautiful

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 18 December 2023 02:18 (four months ago) link

Tesla blamed drivers for failures of parts it long knew were defective

Wheels falling off cars at speed. Suspensions collapsing on brand-new vehicles. Axles breaking under acceleration. Tens of thousands of customers told Tesla about a host of part failures on low-mileage cars. The automaker sought to blame drivers for vehicle ‘abuse,’ but Tesla documents show it had tracked the chronic ‘flaws’ and ‘failures’ for years.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-musk-steering-suspension/

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 15:02 (four months ago) link

unbelievable

Andrew Lundeen, of Santa Rosa, California, was driving his wife’s 2018 Model 3 in August when he rode over a speed bump and lost power steering.

Lundeen said in an interview that a Tesla service manager told him that a power-steering connector had corroded. The manager said the likely cause was a car wash, which he described as a known problem.

Lundeen paid $4,400 to replace the steering rack and a wiring harness.

“This is the only car that I’ve ever heard of where a car wash can damage the wiring,” Lundeen recalled telling the manager.

Lundeen said he was so shocked by the manager’s frank explanation of Tesla’s part failures that he wrote it down: “All I can tell you,” the Tesla manager said, “is we’re not a 100-year-old company like GM and Ford. We haven’t worked all the bugs out yet.”

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 15:44 (four months ago) link

i like the idea that ford has been working the bugs out for 100 years lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 15:47 (four months ago) link

iirc, it was around year 53 when Ford figured out how to not make water ruin their cars

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 15:49 (four months ago) link

MUSK cybercitybus will be a bad municipal investment

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 15:52 (four months ago) link

I’m picturing Teslas having a little clothing tag hanging from the inside of the hood that says “HAND WASH ONLY” in small print

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:00 (four months ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:11 (four months ago) link

"Do not remove this tag under penalty of Elon Must doxxing you on X"

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:13 (four months ago) link

shifting the blame to the customer by saying they washed it when cars encounter water in many non car wash situations, low ridiculous behavior

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:15 (four months ago) link

more Tesla nightmares https://fighttorepair.substack.com/p/teslas-a-vocal-opponent-of-the-right

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:43 (four months ago) link

i actually rode in a tesla last night for the first time.

one of those revel taxis that are cheap because VCs are setting money on fire again.

just a model 3, but it was a very uncomfortable ride (suspension) and the interior looks like shit.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:51 (four months ago) link

its wild in an era of crazy good interiors theyre getting away with that shit

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 18:57 (four months ago) link

I got angrily beeped at and a "WHAT THE FUCK DUDE" from a Tesla driver yesterday because I had the audacity to pull over to the side of the road with my blinkers on to pick up my son after school. There was a whole open lane right next to me for the guy to drive around, but I know what happened: He started gunning the accelerator straight out of a stop sign and was probably not even actually watching the car in front of him until he almost rear-ended me. What the fuck yrself dude.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:07 (four months ago) link

you had the audacity not to conform to his expectation of what you ought to be doing

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:18 (four months ago) link

The Tesla has definitely replaced the Bimmer as the asshole driver's car of choice.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:43 (four months ago) link

yea I've probably mentioned this before but it's pretty wild how terrible Tesla interiors are and how little thought is given to the experience of anyone outside of the person driving the car. it's given the same degree of care as the fake staging furniture you see at WG&R.

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:45 (four months ago) link

I got angrily beeped at and a "WHAT THE FUCK DUDE" from a Tesla driver yesterday

Maybe that car beeped at you on its own, and the shocked/embarrassed driver was yelling at the car?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 22:30 (four months ago) link

The Tesla has definitely replaced the Bimmer as the asshole driver's car of choice.

it ought to have done by now, but roadie (cyclists) chatter here is still nope, not yet.

digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Thursday, 21 December 2023 00:13 (four months ago) link

gonna be hard to pass bmw cause of the whole drivers car aspect they have

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 00:16 (four months ago) link

So far I only know one Tesla owner that has gotten rid of their Tesla. Actually, two! One before Musk showed his true colors, the other after. Musk aside, neither had any love for the car, and simply upgraded to a more luxury vehicle from another more commonly lux maker.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 December 2023 00:31 (four months ago) link

it really is too bad about Beamers, I drove a rental one for a week and I absolutely understood why someone would want that car

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 21 December 2023 01:16 (four months ago) link

id still drive one idc

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 01:23 (four months ago) link

wish they were still sending us wagons tho

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 01:24 (four months ago) link

everyone with a BMW should resemble James Spader

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 December 2023 01:31 (four months ago) link

id still drive one idc


oh i mean i absolutely would drive one, but absent my husband making tons of cash or me making tons of cash, it ain’t gonna happen.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 21 December 2023 02:01 (four months ago) link

i've got a nephew in law who advised me with reassuring self-mocking eye-rolls "seriously, i've never had or driven anything but a bmw since i was a kid, and i don't plan to change that." i shrugged and said "also seriously, you seem way too cool a person to say that, but at least the cars are pretty nice."

digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Thursday, 21 December 2023 03:54 (four months ago) link

he should mix it up, get an audi

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 03:56 (four months ago) link

my friend who kept buying interesting yet fatally flawed cars has a bmw in the back yard or large garage the previous homeowner installed. just a guy who can’t help but buy deals and can’t have things fixed. thankfully he doesn’t seem the type to acquire a Tesla that’ll spontaneously combust

the bmw was from a bad lemon year, I think the transmission was what killed it but I think three of the four windows wouldn’t roll down right

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 21 December 2023 07:14 (four months ago) link

New BMWs are pretty uggo IMO, I still long for an E30 325is coupe. Late '80s 3-series and 5-series BMWs were some of the best looking cars ever, sharp lines without being too much of a boring commuter car.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 21 December 2023 07:37 (four months ago) link

One era-appropriate Blaupunkt upgrade and I'd have to start buying CDs again.

https://media-r2.carsandbids.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=2080,quality=80/da4b9237bacccdf19c0760cab7aec4a8359010b0/photos/9eDejlwd-QrtkFbV452-okm70PfbVf.jpg

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 21 December 2023 07:40 (four months ago) link

everyone with a BMW should resemble James Spader

Everyone with a Tesla, James Woods

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 21 December 2023 13:54 (four months ago) link

yeah older bmws were so much better the tasteful sedan that secretly rips was such sick concept, the new ones look like they rip and arent tasteful, some of the new ones are cool but they really abandoned their whole scheme, they had a good thing going

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 13:59 (four months ago) link

FWIW, my daughter, who drives a tow truck, says you would have to pay her to drive a European car, any European car. I trust her assessment, she deals with breakdowns and wrecks all day every day.

I've never asked her what she thinks of Tesla, but I assume she'd laugh.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:08 (four months ago) link

european cars are def not as reliable, but neither are american cars or korean cars, basically japanese cars are just too good, the thing about european cars is that the repairs are more expensive, safety wise i dont think theres a huge difference, unless you take into consideration bmw driver behavior haha

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:17 (four months ago) link

For sure, Japanese cars are her jam, especially Lexus.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:18 (four months ago) link

yeah lexus is the sweet spot if you want a nice and reliable car, some of them are even a lil fun 2 drive

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:19 (four months ago) link

FWIW, my daughter, who drives a tow truck, says you would have to pay her to drive a European car, any European car. I trust her assessment, she deals with breakdowns and wrecks all day every day.

I've never asked her what she thinks of Tesla, but I assume she'd laugh.


what’s the make of her tow?

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:19 (four months ago) link

Good question, I'd have to ask.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:23 (four months ago) link

I have rented a BMW 228i and an Audi A6 on more than one occasion, no question they are fun to drive.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:26 (four months ago) link

a friend has an s3 that i wish to own and zip around in, amazing lil city car

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:29 (four months ago) link

bmw 2 series is cool too

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:30 (four months ago) link

I used to own a Dodge Challenger RT. That was a thrilling car to drive, but the thrill faded after a while.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:31 (four months ago) link

sick

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:51 (four months ago) link

i had a audi a6 wagon rental in the UK and it was easily the nicest family car i've ever been in. unbelievably comfortable. i assume ownership is a nightmare.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 December 2023 16:51 (four months ago) link

My 2011 A4 had 120k and never had an issue (other than having to add oil once in a blue moon) until I got rear ended on the LIE by a giant Dodge Ram pickup and it was totaled.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 21 December 2023 16:56 (four months ago) link

if you got a new or low milage audi et al im sure it would run perfectly for years, cars generally are so good now, its more when you get over 100k that the reliable cars start to separate themselves, tho normal maintenance will always be more in a german car than in a toyota, and obvs all that affects the resale value too, tho if you really just want the nice car with no worries you can always lease too

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 16:59 (four months ago) link

My 2011 A4 had 120k and never had an issue

― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, December 21, 2023 11:56 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

that four cylinder was known as being particularly reliable, i had a 2012 with no issues that my dad wreck at similar milage

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 17:01 (four months ago) link

no wait im tripping i had the 2002

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 17:03 (four months ago) link

FWIW, my daughter, who drives a tow truck, says you would have to pay her to drive a European car, any European car. I trust her assessment, she deals with breakdowns and wrecks all day every day.

what you're looking for when renting is different, but fwiw i always choose anything but an american car when renting. impossible to overstate how unpleasant a jeep or whatever is compared to the worst possible nissan SUV.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 December 2023 17:14 (four months ago) link

if we keep this up for another coupe of weeks maybe we can make elon musk disappear

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 21 December 2023 20:50 (four months ago) link

Pouring one out for my 1975 530i. It already had 150K miles on it when I bought it for a dollar in 1991 and never complained when I added another 100K miles on it over the next 7 years. Replaced it with a used '86 535i which was a better car in all respects but less fun.

Over the year a couple of free level 2 chargers have opened up nearby and without fail, it's always the Teslas who hog them up all night - never moving them even after they've been sitting at 100% for hours.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 21 December 2023 21:56 (four months ago) link

I might change my mind about the existence of God if Elon got run over by an autonomous Cybertruck.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:37 (four months ago) link

I would be a believer if Elon was incinerated to death in a burning Cybertruck that auto-locked the doors.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:55 (four months ago) link

"I'm sorry, I can't do that Elon"

*crispiness intensifies*

raiders_face_melt.gif

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:57 (four months ago) link

One era-appropriate Blaupunkt upgrade and I'd have to start buying CDs again.

https://media-r2.carsandbids.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=2080,quality=80/da4b9237bacccdf19c0760cab7aec4a8359010b0/photos/9eDejlwd-QrtkFbV452-okm70PfbVf.jpg

― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, December 21, 2023 2:40 AM (seventeen hours ago)

naturally theres a company that specializes in 80s/90s euro car stereos but with modern bells and whistles

https://www.retromanufacturing.com/collections/bmw

, Friday, 22 December 2023 01:22 (four months ago) link

says you would have to pay her to drive a European car, any European car

I feel like we only see a fraction of euro models on this side of the pond... they have so many nifty little cars that are never imported to the U.S. (Skoda? Renault?) but are extremely common over there, and the newer models seem to be decent quality. We only get the luxury models (and a few Jettas etc. which are probably built in Tennessee)

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 22 December 2023 01:50 (four months ago) link

How often is it something like conflicting safety standards or whatever that keeps certain cars or brands from US shores? That's what I always figure. Like, in Italy an airbag's minimum inflation is something something PSI, but in America it's a different number, so the cars don't pass muster, something like that.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 December 2023 02:35 (four months ago) link

yup thats basically it

lag∞n, Friday, 22 December 2023 02:37 (four months ago) link

Yeah, it's that but also California's more stringent emissions standards (CARB); if it can't sell in CA, they won't bother importing. Hence the VW dirty diesel scandal

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 22 December 2023 02:38 (four months ago) link

speaking of safety standards, useful piece on why they can only be applied after launch in the US (unlike in e.g. europe), which is why the cybertruck is launching here now, and has no specific plans to ever launch in the US https://slate.com/technology/2023/12/cybertruck-safety-elon-musk-tesla-danger.html

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 December 2023 02:41 (four months ago) link

I have a 1983 mercedes sl but I never drive it. theoretically accepting offers tbh

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 22 December 2023 02:43 (four months ago) link

xp There's also the issue of dealer networks.. like Skoda or Holden or Vauxhall might actually be owned by GM, but those names are so weird and exotic that dealers might be afraid to be associated with them. They did relaunch Alfa Romeo in the U.S. a few years ago, but I don't actually see that many on the road

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 22 December 2023 02:46 (four months ago) link

GM sold Vauxhalls in the States for a brief period in the '60s before switching to Opel as their preferred 'captive import'.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 December 2023 03:04 (four months ago) link

The Big Three all imported their European marque compacts over here back then, with Chrysler bringing in both Simcas and Rootes, and Ford trying out both Anglias and Cortinas from the UK.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 December 2023 03:08 (four months ago) link

I have a B&W photo of the Simca my dad owned for a couple of years, parked on the street in front of our house, circa 1968. In the background you can see our neighbor's Cadillac parked in their driveway.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 22 December 2023 03:32 (four months ago) link

dodge/chrysler are owned by stellantis now fwiw. alfa romeo too. so more like big two

, Friday, 22 December 2023 06:01 (four months ago) link

One of the final Pontiac models - the G8 was a rebadged Holden Commodore imported from Australia. A guy I worked with long ago had a G8 GXP which had the V8 from a Corvette paired with a six-speed manual. Hell of a car.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 22 December 2023 06:06 (four months ago) link

Those 2000s GTOs were also Holdens, and had Pontiac survived, they were on track to become all-Holden. The last Pontiac brochure had a preview spread of upcoming models which included those Holden El Camino-style car/trucks (forget the model name).

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 December 2023 06:20 (four months ago) link

Holden Ute. The Pontiac was going to be in the G8 line.

Huge Image of The Pontiac version

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 December 2023 06:29 (four months ago) link

My family is from Detroit, they were GM all the way. I remember we had a few Opels back in the 60s. Not good cars.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 22 December 2023 14:34 (four months ago) link

xp That Pontiac looks even worse than the Aztek.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 22 December 2023 14:34 (four months ago) link

The Opel GT looked dope but was an underpowered POS IIRC.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 22 December 2023 14:35 (four months ago) link

My dad had a Sunbeam. He loved that car even as he acknowledged it was terrible.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 22 December 2023 14:36 (four months ago) link

car-ignorant car tale from yesterday--

i saw a 2022 rs6 c8 at downieville exit on i70, waitin for its master to get coffee. as a know-nothing i was amazed by its cool waves. i complimented the owner when he returned (asked him the year, only way i know it).

i asked my buddy when he got back "did you see that rs6 that was parked next to us"? he said "i missed it-- all 600hp of it." i said "BULLSHIT! NO WAY?" "yeah. hope you didn't ding it." what a world.

digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 December 2023 16:23 (four months ago) link

You would be amazed how that post reads to someone who is actually car-ignorant

bae (sic), Friday, 22 December 2023 17:27 (four months ago) link

I had to use Google translate.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 December 2023 17:40 (four months ago) link

A few years ago I saw an Audi R8 pull out of a strip club at 3 in the afternoon and immediately rear end an Econoline. It looked very expensive.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 22 December 2023 17:43 (four months ago) link

One of my best friends just swapped out their old compact SUV for an EV, so his wife was considering replacing her old Audi with a newer EV model, too. She found one she liked and her jaw dropped at the price.

Is the R a European thing? My wife has a Mini, and whenever I search for help about things in forums it's always stuff like "the R56 is known to have these problems," or the like, but I have no idea what the R means. Revision? Model? I just know of it as her 2018 Mini Cooper S.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 December 2023 17:52 (four months ago) link

Nerd jargon, series codes for BMW stuff. E30/E34/E36/etc. showing you’re not just a noob who calls it a 3-series.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 22 December 2023 18:09 (four months ago) link

xp looks like it’s the specific codes for revisions and packages. so instead of saying a year and hatch/convertible/S/cooper package, enthusiasts can abbreviate it. it’s so esoteric it’s on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_Hatch

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 22 December 2023 18:23 (four months ago) link

We had two Mini Coopers. Neither one made it to 75k and they both had many, many issues before that.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 22 December 2023 18:33 (four months ago) link

There was a kid down the street from me that had two Opel Mantas... he would work on them all the time, but I don't think I ever saw them actually running. Cool looking cars, though

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 22 December 2023 18:39 (four months ago) link

Is the R a European thing? My wife has a Mini, and whenever I search for help about things in forums it's always stuff like "the R56 is known to have these problems," or the like, but I have no idea what the R means. Revision? Model? I just know of it as her 2018 Mini Cooper S.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, December 22, 2023 12:52 PM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

companies have internal codes for the different generations of their models, so if you know those you can refer to the mini cooper made between 2016-2020 or whatever which is helpful cause the engine might be different than another year but also it might be the same

lag∞n, Friday, 29 December 2023 00:40 (three months ago) link

in that case the r prob doesnt really mean anything important but when r in used in public facing naming it means racing which is a cool car word

lag∞n, Friday, 29 December 2023 00:45 (three months ago) link

The R stands for “really fast”

Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 29 December 2023 01:46 (three months ago) link

it stand for rrrrrrrmmmm (sound of car engine)

lag∞n, Friday, 29 December 2023 01:47 (three months ago) link

stupidity on parade

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 4 January 2024 20:34 (three months ago) link

Elon reminds me of those Nobel prize winners who feel qualified to opine on matters they know nothing about

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 January 2024 20:56 (three months ago) link

Jesus fucking Christ.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 4 January 2024 21:18 (three months ago) link

he reminds me more of a really bad forums poster

frogbs, Thursday, 4 January 2024 21:22 (three months ago) link

love cheong jumping in there all i wasnt a c section but my head is very large sir

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 January 2024 21:24 (three months ago) link

What a weird flex. "My brain was too big for my mother's constricting vaginal canal." Call yr therapist bro.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 4 January 2024 21:33 (three months ago) link

So transparently thirsty

omar little, Thursday, 4 January 2024 21:33 (three months ago) link

"this is how macduff was able to outwit macbeth"

omar little, Thursday, 4 January 2024 21:34 (three months ago) link

Having a hard time believing Felix from Chapo didn't write those posts as parody. X's echo chamber has somehow made those two even more laughably stupid

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Thursday, 4 January 2024 21:36 (three months ago) link

musk has ten children and never noticed their heads get bigger after theyre born

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 January 2024 21:37 (three months ago) link

he breeds the children, but I've seen no indication he does the whole 'parent' thing

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 January 2024 21:59 (three months ago) link

TBF Musk does not interact with or look directly at his seedlings

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 January 2024 22:00 (three months ago) link

he has former employees to handle that stuff

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 January 2024 22:07 (three months ago) link

he had one of the kids in the office like an accessory! someone at twitter was quoted as saying it was surprising he was a dedicated parent, but then, as they’re doing some marathon “how do we make twitter cheap and more X” meeting the toddler was being tired and fussy at 11pm

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 4 January 2024 23:40 (three months ago) link

His “emotional support human” (his words)

I am using your worlds, Friday, 5 January 2024 06:40 (three months ago) link

Disproving meritocracy one tweet at a time.

What if I told you these two things are related pic.twitter.com/SmAsT0NSTR

— Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) January 5, 2024

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 5 January 2024 09:34 (three months ago) link

lol @ expecting a twitter link to work

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 5 January 2024 12:09 (three months ago) link

The last of the few folks I knew in SF that owned Teslas had sold them in the past year but man after visiting SoCal (LA/OC/SD) over the past couple weeks, it's insane how many there are. One neighborhood had at least one in every driveway.

Yes I realize how car culture is vastly different here than there but no wonder this idiot has so much money.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 5 January 2024 18:12 (three months ago) link

Yeah, LA is rotten with them.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 5 January 2024 18:13 (three months ago) link

Don't spend as much time in Sf as I did a couple years ago but they're everywhere in the east bay. My next door neighbors in berkeley (old couple with a few live-in failsons) have 3.

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 5 January 2024 18:40 (three months ago) link

They are ubiquitous in Maryland these days.

peace, man, Friday, 5 January 2024 18:59 (three months ago) link

I should get a pic of the Tesla charging station in the parking lot of the mostly-dead mall in Tupelo.

that's when I reach for my copy of Revolver (WmC), Friday, 5 January 2024 19:13 (three months ago) link

omg theres one at the dead mall near me too

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2024 19:23 (three months ago) link

elon really has dilbert guy brain, just assuming he's smarter than everyone else so everything he thinks must be true and profound

c u (crüt), Friday, 5 January 2024 21:52 (three months ago) link

‘dead mall charging sta.’ is all time end of civ vibe.

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Friday, 5 January 2024 22:36 (three months ago) link

Haha my nearby mall is not dead, but about 40% of it is empty and the Tesla charging station is located right at the furthest point of the dead portion.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 January 2024 22:38 (three months ago) link

Dead malls are great locations for charging stations so no one is hurt when the Teslas catch on fire.

Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 5 January 2024 23:14 (three months ago) link

There are loads of Teslas in my part of the UK. It used to be a novelty to see one; now, it's every 30th car or whatever. They're nearly all white in my experience. Two teachers at my school drive them. I want to ask them 'the fuck are you affording that on teacher's wages?' but don't want to be gauche.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Saturday, 6 January 2024 10:38 (three months ago) link

Tesla Sales Rebound After Steep Price Cuts

To maintain sales, Tesla cut prices, offering Model 3s on its website for well under $30,000 after factoring in the tax credits. By late December, the number of lower-priced cars listed on the website appeared to have dwindled, suggesting that the strategy had succeeded. But the price reductions cut into Tesla profits, which fell 44 percent in the third quarter from a year earlier.

Kim Kimberly, Saturday, 6 January 2024 13:59 (three months ago) link

thats a pretty nice deal tbf

lag∞n, Saturday, 6 January 2024 14:14 (three months ago) link

Is there any emerging schism in tesla fans being anti-Musk in more than just a "I wish he'd stop mouthing off and tanking our stocks" way?

Philip Nunez, Saturday, 6 January 2024 14:55 (three months ago) link

https://archive.ph/O6a3f

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 7 January 2024 03:04 (three months ago) link

our hard working ceo can have a little illegal drugs as a treat

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2024 03:12 (three months ago) link

probably naive but this being in the WSJ and not, like, daily beast feels like a biggish deal.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 7 January 2024 03:56 (three months ago) link

its such a weird situation how musks aura has made his companies so much more valuable than they should be, basically makes him untouchable

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2024 03:59 (three months ago) link

From the WSJ article:

Musk is intrinsic to the value of his companies...

Probably unconsciously, this nicely sums up the penchant for the 'free market' to add totally irrational factors to the allocation of trillions of dollars of capital, creating periodic outcomes such as bubbles, panics, and crashes.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 7 January 2024 04:07 (three months ago) link

Musk is intrinsic to the value of his companies

economists go boom

mookieproof, Sunday, 7 January 2024 04:36 (three months ago) link

lol

https://bsky.app/profile/mtsw.bsky.social/post/3kieh7qsgce2r

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 7 January 2024 04:59 (three months ago) link

how exactly is that news I honestly thought that was common knowledge

frogbs, Sunday, 7 January 2024 05:02 (three months ago) link

until this there was i think only one WSJ story about him on ketamine at parties. this seems different in that it describes specific incidents of drug use affecting his work.

his performance at the pre-acquisition twitter all hands sounds a lot the late/slurry/rambling meeting described at spacex: 'It couldn’t be learned if Musk was under the influence that day. But after the meeting, the SpaceX executives privately talked about their worries Musk was on drugs. One described the event as “nonsensical,” “unhinged” and “cringeworthy."'

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 7 January 2024 05:09 (three months ago) link

unless I missed it the article doesn't mention stimulents which to me seems like the thing he's almost certainly on

frogbs, Sunday, 7 January 2024 05:23 (three months ago) link

Tell it to Earth

jaymc, Sunday, 7 January 2024 05:35 (three months ago) link

NYT: Critics suggest that titan of industry must deal with diversions

mookieproof, Sunday, 7 January 2024 05:49 (three months ago) link

He seemed pretty high in that Andrew Ross Sorkin interview.

Part of the issue directors have grappled with over the years is whether drug use by Musk is to blame for his unusual behavior, or if it is something else, such as his consistent lack of sleep, which he has talked about.

Uhmmmm...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Sunday, 7 January 2024 09:45 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j05F88cEO8

Crybaby does K all day~~~

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 7 January 2024 11:41 (three months ago) link

the WSJ isn’t going to complain about stimulants because that’s the drug class of the business world!

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 7 January 2024 15:55 (three months ago) link

as long as you have a prescription

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2024 16:03 (three months ago) link

the “cocaine can get you a felony” bit seems a little undersold and perfunctory

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 7 January 2024 16:11 (three months ago) link

imagine how annoying elon is on coke lol

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2024 17:10 (three months ago) link

Apparently we don't need to imagine.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 January 2024 17:11 (three months ago) link

lmao

Spiro called the description of the SpaceX incident “false as has been confirmed by countless people who were present.” He declined to elaborate on what specifically was false or describe the countless people.

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Sunday, 7 January 2024 21:54 (three months ago) link

lol very good

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2024 22:04 (three months ago) link

The Flashbulb's Youtube persona is somewhat annoying but he gets a pass for shitting on Tesla's self driving

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DOd4RLNeT4

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 7 January 2024 22:49 (three months ago) link

ed niedermeyer (author of ludicrous: the unvarnished story of tesla motors) on bluesky, about the wsj story

WSJ ain't printing this if there is any risk of Linda denying it

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:yn75hmwkitdshnylue6d3grk/bafkreicvdmw33hxllwlmoj4ukqzv7cwbdl6sugd32im4x4zszu5avvxtyi@jpeg

Like, it's not that surprising or interesting that drugs play a role in Musk's erratic behavior. The fact that the board of a car company that's worth more than the rest of the industry combined can't do more to reign in their druggy ego monster CEO than belatedly tattle? Now that's a story, baby! If Musk runs Tesla into a wall and the board can't mitigate the damage there will be much farther reaching consequences for lots of people than if they can

Every big potentially litigious piece of Musk reporting leaves a ton on the legal cutting room floor. There is a LOT more out there.

mark s, Sunday, 7 January 2024 22:50 (three months ago) link

oops i missed this:

Fave detail in the Elon drug story is the former Tesla board director who refused to stand for re-election in 2019 because of Musk's drug-fueled out-of-control behavior. The fact that Tesla's corporate governance standard is "run away and tell the WSJ four years later" is kinda the real issue, no?

mark s, Sunday, 7 January 2024 22:52 (three months ago) link

yeah the board are getting extremely sued if this is true (and has consequences lol)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 7 January 2024 23:07 (three months ago) link

"everything is securities fraud" — M. Levine

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Sunday, 7 January 2024 23:36 (three months ago) link

the time to publish this probably would have been when tesla’s stock tanked last year. as long as the stock is relatively stable, nobody cares because money machine go brrrr

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 8 January 2024 01:21 (three months ago) link

a brrring money machine is pretty nice

lag∞n, Monday, 8 January 2024 01:23 (three months ago) link

Is the money machine cold

Pat Methamphetamine Trio (is this anything?) (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 8 January 2024 02:06 (three months ago) link

ice cold baby

lag∞n, Monday, 8 January 2024 02:07 (three months ago) link

the end reveal and comment are *chef’s kiss*

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 8 January 2024 03:11 (three months ago) link

The hacked Teslas self-driving themselves into an expressway pileup was a nice touch in Leave The World Behind

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 8 January 2024 04:03 (three months ago) link

xp: what's the "end reveal"?

peace, man, Monday, 8 January 2024 12:04 (three months ago) link

possibly my own online names aren't as good as they could be but imagine deciding to call yourself "greggertruck"

mark s, Monday, 8 January 2024 12:07 (three months ago) link

xp: what's the "end reveal"?


I think it’s the quip at the end.

Pat Methamphetamine Trio (is this anything?) (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 8 January 2024 14:55 (three months ago) link

yeah, the zoom out showing there are two people making a video clip and the comment.

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 8 January 2024 14:58 (three months ago) link

Nothing to see here. Just the owner of this site doing a little race science while warning that black people's low intelligence will lead to deadly airplane crashes. pic.twitter.com/tXY9iUowD3

— Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) January 10, 2024

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 15:46 (three months ago) link

I hope Musk is on that plane.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 21:35 (three months ago) link

It'd be OK if the fiery crash Musk dies in is in a Tesla, too. Or even in a plane piloted by, you know, some genius white pilot.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 23:28 (three months ago) link

Tesla factory workers are getting a break.

Tesla said will temporarily stop production at its factory outside Berlin. Attacks on ships in the Red Sea mean the factory cannot get the parts it needs to maintain operations. https://t.co/a9sNjCILCK

— DW News (@dwnews) January 12, 2024

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 January 2024 10:23 (three months ago) link

"race science"

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 12 January 2024 19:22 (three months ago) link

lmfao

Stainless steel exposed to certain substances can corrode–and the Cybertruck is no different. So if you go for a drive in the summer and bugs splatter across the solid stainless “grille” of your Cybertruck, you’ll want to scrape them off immediately. And if you park your Cybertruck outdoors, you may need to scrub the tree sap and bird poop off daily during all summer.

In the winter, your Cybertruck will be exposed to road salt during every drive. And Tesla specifies that you’ll have to wash that off immediately too. Tar and grease from the road could be a year round problem. And Tesla adds that you may need a bottle of denatured alcohol to get those last two removed.

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/tesla-youll-have-to-wipe-dead-bugs-and-bird-poop-off-your-cybertruck-asap-to-avoid-corrosion/

lag∞n, Saturday, 20 January 2024 16:48 (three months ago) link

i hate to say anything nice about the new nazi e-truck but a tarnished stainless steel truck might actually look cool. i always kinda liked how old steel spoons looked.

scott seward, Saturday, 20 January 2024 17:54 (three months ago) link

yeah was thinking instead of going the clean it every day route they couldve just said over time it develops a distinctive and unique patina

lag∞n, Saturday, 20 January 2024 17:55 (three months ago) link

Yeah, part of me thinks it could be kind of cool to let a Cybertruck get completely grimy and corroded and post-apocalyptic-looking. But none of the saddos who buy the things would ever do that. Instead they'll be out there buffing them clean every time they get home from anywhere.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Saturday, 20 January 2024 17:56 (three months ago) link

conversely couldnt they have just sealed it with some clear stuff

lag∞n, Saturday, 20 January 2024 17:57 (three months ago) link

i had sorta guessed deloreans had been clear coated i see not

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Saturday, 20 January 2024 19:21 (three months ago) link

seems like a strange oversight for the two stainless steel cars to both make

lag∞n, Saturday, 20 January 2024 19:25 (three months ago) link

maybe it doesnt look as cool idk prob looks pretty similar tho

lag∞n, Saturday, 20 January 2024 19:26 (three months ago) link

i don't know shit about cars tbh but i'm guessing whether it looks cool or not it will absolutely tank any resale value these things might theoretically have?

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 January 2024 19:50 (three months ago) link

amongst other similar issues

lag∞n, Saturday, 20 January 2024 20:00 (three months ago) link

"buffing my Cybertruck" = 2024's top masturbation euphemism

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 20 January 2024 20:20 (three months ago) link

cyber is now cockney rhyming slang for non-cyber

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 20 January 2024 21:59 (three months ago) link

There is a Cybertruck on display at the Petersen Museum with what looks like bullet holes in the driver's side door. I didn't read the sign, not sure what the point is.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 20 January 2024 22:03 (three months ago) link

its prob the one musk shot in a marketing video

lag∞n, Saturday, 20 January 2024 22:06 (three months ago) link

"buffing my Cybertruck" = 2024's top masturbation euphemism


Like the Cybertruck, my penis gets covered in bird shit and road tar.

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 21 January 2024 02:44 (three months ago) link

xxpost : https://www.teslarati.com/bullet-tested-tesla-cybertruck-displayed-petersen-museum/

StanM, Sunday, 21 January 2024 11:11 (three months ago) link

Wasn't the DeLorean aluminum bodied?

nickn, Monday, 22 January 2024 07:59 (three months ago) link

Elon Musk visits Auschwitz. I guess if he wants to see another expression of antisemitism he could also click on his own app. pic.twitter.com/336terATWH

— Guy Walters 🇺🇦 (@guywalters) January 22, 2024

xyzzzz__, Monday, 22 January 2024 14:34 (three months ago) link

it sucks I can't even be some irony poisoned Cybertruck fan because Elon sucks so god damn much. I mean the thing is so gloriously stupid and ugly and impractical that I almost kinda respect the drive it must've took to actually get something like this made. you know how some people still insist on driving stickshifts just to make things more difficult for them? the Cybertruck takes that up to an entirely new level. like oh hold on guys it rained today so I have to wash the thing front to back otherwise it'll corrode. no we can't take that route. there's a tiny hill and it'll get stuck. sorry my car's in the shop, it needs an $80,000 frame job because a piece came loose. of course it's not covered by warranty, are you insane? yeah still love the car though

frogbs, Monday, 22 January 2024 14:53 (three months ago) link

Did I see something about it even being contractually forbidden to resell it?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 January 2024 15:43 (three months ago) link

for the first year, not unheard of for rare cars to prevent flipping

lag∞n, Monday, 22 January 2024 15:50 (three months ago) link

irony poisoned Cybertruck fan

Rejected JBR display name

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 22 January 2024 19:01 (three months ago) link

the cybertruck has a three on the tree model i think they are trying too hard

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Monday, 22 January 2024 20:13 (three months ago) link

I was thinking about where to place Elon on a spectrum of charlatanry -- on some level actually shipping ridiculous promises like a truck made of baking sheet pans, however late and mispriced or underspec'ed, puts him ahead of someone like Elizabeth Holmes, but probably more people will unnecessarily die from Elon's products than from Holmes (but part of that is Holmes got stopped)?

Philip Nunez, Monday, 22 January 2024 20:39 (three months ago) link

You have to figure in Elon's ability to generate hordes of followers who will defend his charlatanry no matter how outlandish.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 22 January 2024 20:50 (three months ago) link

Dude just went to a concentration camp site to do a photo op. That is a pretty high roll of a 20 sided die of a$$hole.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Monday, 22 January 2024 22:04 (three months ago) link

its actually worse than that immediately after he gave a presentation arguing that X would've prevented the holocaust

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 20:14 (three months ago) link

my stepmom got me his biography for Xmas, and I quietly re-gifted it to my cousin's husband without reading a word beyond the title

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 20:31 (three months ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 20:35 (three months ago) link

it's okay he can fall back on his profits from twit-oh no

impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 23:11 (three months ago) link

haha

dead precedents (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 23:12 (three months ago) link

(chortles gleefully) Musk may slip partway down the list of the top ten richest humans!

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 23:26 (three months ago) link

watch this if you want to see a cybertruck get smoked by a small subaru crossover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AH4eyJCwbE

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:00 (three months ago) link

a fun read, not really about musk but about the biographer, walter isaacson

https://thepointmag.com/criticism/very-ordinary-men/

ꙮ (map), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:43 (two months ago) link

biographer / charlatan bracket:
michael lewis vs isaacson vs SBF vs musk

I'm inclined to think SBF was less of a charlatan than musk but not sure why. Maybe he's just in a more huckster-y field to begin with?
Also, ironically maybe there's "utility" in his inadvertently exposing tenured philosophers as craven hucksters themselves by association.
With Elon, I guess he revealed who Grimes really was.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 26 January 2024 18:15 (two months ago) link

oh damn, sam kriss is writing again? good for him waiting until everyone forgot about the sexual harassment allegations

ivy., Friday, 26 January 2024 18:19 (two months ago) link

Elon’s making noise about Neuralink so people will stop paying attention to Tesla’s stock drop, right? Big “our tunnel is on track” energy

In any case, time for a rethinking of the Michael Crichton pulpy sci-fi work, The Terminal Man

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 16:52 (two months ago) link

elon has put a chip in my brain, i can now self host windows server nt

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 16:55 (two months ago) link

has any independent testing been done of this or are we all just supposed to take Elon at his word again?

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 16:57 (two months ago) link

seems the only info is a tweet by elon saying they did it lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 17:03 (two months ago) link

they performed the surgery while riding on the hyperloop on the way to announce the new generation of teslas

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 18:27 (two months ago) link

i hope he is ok

BREAKING: Elon Musk cannot keep his $55 billion compensation package from Tesla, as judge sides with shareholders. https://t.co/bGRhzIPK8P

— The Associated Press (@AP) January 30, 2024

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:27 (two months ago) link

What are the chances that has teeth?

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:28 (two months ago) link

Interesting caption on that photo

File - Tesla CEO Elon Musk waves as he arrives at the annual political festival Atreju, organized by the Giorgia Meloni’s Brothers of Italy political party, in Rome, Dec. 16, 2023.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:33 (two months ago) link

What are the chances that has teeth?

― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, January 30, 2024 5:28 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

same court and judge that made him buy twitter

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:39 (two months ago) link

🫡

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:44 (two months ago) link

It's OK, Elon will just give himself cyberteeth and bite back.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:47 (two months ago) link

Goddamit
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/Jaws_%28James_Bond%29.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:48 (two months ago) link

Funding secured

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 23:02 (two months ago) link

how bad do you have to fuck up to be mad at the state that exists solely to facilitate corporate functions

Never incorporate your company in the state of Delaware

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) January 30, 2024

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 23:51 (two months ago) link

$55 billion LOL

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 23:53 (two months ago) link

an honest wage for an honest days work

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 23:58 (two months ago) link

Well he finally tweeted something that made me laugh

frogbs, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 00:42 (two months ago) link

Though it’s got nothing on Trump’s “if you need legal services I strongly suggest you DONT hire Michael Cohen” one

frogbs, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 00:42 (two months ago) link

A Delaware judge on Tuesday ruled in favor of the investors who challenged billionaire Elon Musk’s $56bn Tesla pay package as excessive, a court filing showed. The judge found that Musk’s compensation was inappropriately set by the electric-vehicle maker’s board and struck down the package. If the decision survives any potential appeal, the Tesla board will have to come up with a new compensation package for Musk.

Maybe they can agree to something more reasonable and austere, like $45 BILLION

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 00:46 (two months ago) link

salute Richard Tornetta

Isn’t this the Board’s decision to make?

The suit was filed by Richard Tornetta, some unknown heavy metal drummer who owned only 9 shares at the time the suit was filed!

How does a drummer with 9 shares even know enough about the compensation package to file a suit? Very fishy https://t.co/DZ82pXu6AH

— Milton Matthews (@MiltonMatthew16) January 30, 2024

lag∞n, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 00:50 (two months ago) link

this guy's band photo from metal archives presented without comment
https://i.imgur.com/4xKciR6.jpeg

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:00 (two months ago) link

lookin good fellas

lag∞n, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:03 (two months ago) link

how sad do you have to be to be a twitter investigator caping your way to argue for Elon Musk getting $56 billion

omar little, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:06 (two months ago) link

I look forward to Musk trying to turn Tesla into a Wyoming LLC or something

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:14 (two months ago) link

Tesla Motors (Jersey) Ltd.

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:14 (two months ago) link

"Come to Nevada, we'll let you do whatever the fuck you want"

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:17 (two months ago) link

Musk rueing incorporating tesla in Delaware and omitting to mention that he wasn’t there when Tesla was incorporated.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:29 (two months ago) link

he prob believes he was at this point

lag∞n, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:31 (two months ago) link

i skimmed the ruling quickly and my gut says there's a decent chance this gets overturned on appeal because delaware loves capitalism

but the facts here are pretty bad... delaware's in a tough place

, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 05:14 (two months ago) link

Saying “I was negotiating with myself” doesn’t seem great

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 12:26 (two months ago) link

salute Richard Tornetta

Read this as Tonetta and now extremely disappointed.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 12:57 (two months ago) link

think what ultimately may be hard to reconcile is that delaware loves shareholders... so here, this comp plan was good for shareholders since it forecast 10x'ing the stock price. but it was also bad for shareholders because it diluted shareholders by giving a bunch of stock to musk.

so is it good or bad for shareholders where they could 10x their stock (good) at the expense of some dilution (bad)? is setting a goal of 10x enough to overcome bad process? will delaware abide seeing companies start incorporating in nevada?

, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 14:52 (two months ago) link

Presumably they easily saw that the forecast of 10x stock price was as thorough a piece of bullshit as every other Tesla/Musk forecast.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 23:14 (two months ago) link

You can't get much past a heavy metal drummer.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 23:16 (two months ago) link

exploding teslas by the river in the summer

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 1 February 2024 00:44 (two months ago) link

and that's all right with me

dead precedents (sleeve), Thursday, 1 February 2024 00:46 (two months ago) link

he bought one share for each of his nine cymbals

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 February 2024 00:46 (two months ago) link

huh. i thought he wanted to mainline that govt funding into his private ass pocket

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Saturday, 3 February 2024 18:54 (two months ago) link

also he has lied repeatedly about having a physics degree. his actual degrees were likely bought instead of earned.

formerly abanana (dat), Saturday, 3 February 2024 21:18 (two months ago) link

Looking back on the early posts itt is funny. Some nailed from the beginning what a snake oil salesman he has always been, others fell into the hype of cool space tech genius that he never was.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 3 February 2024 23:32 (two months ago) link

Who he?

― Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, October 31, 2012 12:40 PM (eleven years ago) bookmarkflaglink

if only we couldve turned back here

lag∞n, Saturday, 3 February 2024 23:38 (two months ago) link

$2 Frankenstein pork sac

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 4 February 2024 15:08 (two months ago) link

azealia banks is very gifted at insults

treeship., Sunday, 4 February 2024 17:39 (two months ago) link

its cannon that grimes smells like a roll of nickels

lag∞n, Sunday, 4 February 2024 17:41 (two months ago) link

"the flaccid musings of this albino toad looking hangnail" lol. Pretty good board description of X.

tesla stock price starting to get interesting

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 5 February 2024 16:43 (two months ago) link

is there some trigger for something or something

lag∞n, Monday, 5 February 2024 16:50 (two months ago) link

this was a good read https://bondangle.substack.com/p/tesla-moving-the-goalposts-works

, Monday, 5 February 2024 17:03 (two months ago) link

its interesting, people myself and others, thought the real danger to tesla was the big car makers seriously getting into electrification, and i still think that, but also telsa is getting beat by other electric only carmakers, byd selling more cars, rivian and lucid making better cars

lag∞n, Monday, 5 February 2024 17:47 (two months ago) link

is there some trigger for something or something

my feeling is there's been a slow realization over the past 12 months, and especially the past three, among the good faith normie tesla bulls (incl. institutional investors) that it's just a car company, and car companies have no real bottom in terms of valuation, and meanwhile the rest of the nasdaq is going up. i don't know if there's a personal margin call or anything like that, although since he's posting great replacement stuff today, let me say i hope so.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:04 (two months ago) link

ah i see yeah will be interesting to see how long people can fool themselves into thinking telsa is going to grow into the biggest company ever

lag∞n, Monday, 5 February 2024 18:13 (two months ago) link

my favorite normie bull btw is https://twitter.com/garyblack00. over the past few months you can gradually see him realize it's not a good bet any more, and losing his patience with his dumpster fire shitcoin/AI influencer mentions.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:15 (two months ago) link

haha musk sabotaged his empire by pushing blue checks to the top of replies

lag∞n, Monday, 5 February 2024 18:19 (two months ago) link

was thinking about the musk compensation lawsuit situation, its pretty funny he got all these bonuses for insane stock price growth put in the contract, and while the line was very unlikely to go up that much theres still no reason to have a scenario where you give the ceo $50b, but via conning retail investors he got the contract, then he conned retail investors into driving the stock up to the point where he actually recieved the $50b, amazing performance tbf you can only tip you cap, and it wouldve worked if it wasnt for one meddling death metal drummer

lag∞n, Monday, 5 February 2024 18:20 (two months ago) link

This has to be the hardest, most futuristic exit of a Cybertruck owner anyone has ever seen thus far 🔥pic.twitter.com/7uY8tbg7IO

— Teslaconomics (@Teslaconomics) February 4, 2024

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:29 (two months ago) link

also the stagiest

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:33 (two months ago) link

I've seen a few similarly performative clips like that, so I assumed they were performative. On the other hand, you still need the dumb car and the dumb goggles, so maybe they are for real? As in, real douchebag?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 February 2024 18:35 (two months ago) link

I would like to congratulate Poochie on transcending his former status as a purely fictional character, well done m'boy

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:38 (two months ago) link

shouldve gotten hit by another cybertruck at the end to really make it

lag∞n, Monday, 5 February 2024 18:48 (two months ago) link

I was really hoping for it.

peace, man, Monday, 5 February 2024 18:51 (two months ago) link

We can't possibly be that far from one of those Logan Pauls or Mr. Beasts to buy a pair of them to crash into each other.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 February 2024 18:52 (two months ago) link

Why isn’t this soundtracked to “Vogue”?

the new drip king (DJP), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:54 (two months ago) link

look I'll give Elon this the guy does seem to be legitimately good at keeping the stock price propped up. like I remember $30k Model 3s and Full Self Driving being promised nearly a decade ago, before it was known what a huckster and lunatic Elon really was. but despite him breaking nearly every promise and instead delivering one of the dumbest, most impractical vehicles known to man, he's still got the stock price high, as though his cult's belief that Tesla is gonna suddenly drive all the legacy automakers out of business overnight is suddenly gonna manifest any day now

frogbs, Monday, 5 February 2024 18:55 (two months ago) link

One reason I've heard of people not selling their stock is that the price is so inflated that the capital gains will be astronomical. They're cursed to hold it up forever, like Atlas.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 February 2024 19:00 (two months ago) link

It would also be interesting to know what percentage of Tesla stock is held by small individual investors. Even if they aren't all true believers in Musk, their psychology is a different beast than what drives institutional investors. If they rode the stock on its way up they'll be loathe to abandon their connection to that euphoria.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 5 February 2024 19:04 (two months ago) link

Matt Levine has mentioned some numbers/estimates, it's a meaningfully higher percentage than the S&P 500 average I think

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 5 February 2024 19:11 (two months ago) link

the meme stock phenomenon, which in retrospect telsa mightve been the first, is interesting cause retail investors are driving the price and institutional investors are happy to come along for the ride, but what happens when institutional investors decide the rides over (its not good)

lag∞n, Monday, 5 February 2024 19:15 (two months ago) link

One reason I've heard of people not selling their stock is that the price is so inflated that the capital gains will be astronomical. They're cursed to hold it up forever, like Atlas.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, February 5, 2024 2:00 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

its just taxes you still get to keep most of the money

lag∞n, Monday, 5 February 2024 19:30 (two months ago) link

Yeah, better to have a huge gain than a huge loss.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 5 February 2024 19:33 (two months ago) link

if they are $tsla hodlers its just 15% of the gain

, Monday, 5 February 2024 19:34 (two months ago) link

I wonder if that is more of an issue if you are a casual investor that put your life savings into this one stock.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 February 2024 19:36 (two months ago) link

? you pay the taxes with the money you get from selling the stock

, Monday, 5 February 2024 19:38 (two months ago) link

yeah, capital gains taxes don't really diminish once you retire, but if your total income is low when you sell stuff off you can fiddle around a bit

the only way tesla made sense to me was if they just fudged things long enough to piece the company out into licensing deals and selling off parts. other auto companies held shares because they saw some promise! the only thing that they've got so far is that the other automakers are now licensing the supercharger connector.
I don't think they're further ahead on the self-driving crap (which will never be "full" self-driving) than their competitors, it's just that no one else is dumb enough to let consumers enable it in a really visible way. other companies are making electric cars that accelerate quickly and are actually repairable

their niche is apparently "thing that looks cool that does stuff competitors don't" as far as differentiating themselves, and their offering is... cybertruck

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 5 February 2024 19:54 (two months ago) link

these guys are too kind to the cyber truck, dont really have any taste, are overly interested in novelty, and are dorks, but pretty good review overall they went deeper on the real physicality of the thing than other stuff ive seen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNE-NyaYBcg

lag∞n, Monday, 5 February 2024 20:00 (two months ago) link

yeah, that's kind of the target market. it's not creating or adhering to an aesthetic, it's just novelty in the vein of "check this shit out"

kind of like watching a guy do a shot and then a backflip off of a picnic table. the chive-ass truck

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 5 February 2024 20:12 (two months ago) link

keep cyber and truck on

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 5 February 2024 20:14 (two months ago) link

telsa design wise altogether is kind of just a bad aesthetic poorly executed, but the cyber truck takes it to the next level, but maybe its better cause at least its silly, tho on the other hand it is awful

lag∞n, Monday, 5 February 2024 20:17 (two months ago) link

like what is this were gonna give the car sick ass doors, but only on the back seat

https://i.imgur.com/u5mdgfh.png

lag∞n, Monday, 5 February 2024 20:21 (two months ago) link

for some reason I hate that less than "we're gonna make the window have to roll down a little bit to exit the vehicle"

someone's going to tell me that they borrowed the window thing from a sports car design and I don't care

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 5 February 2024 20:24 (two months ago) link

yeah thats truly inexcusable, it is excusable on some 1980s italian sports car cause thats not for commuting

lag∞n, Monday, 5 February 2024 20:28 (two months ago) link

lol the gull-wing doors made me (half)recall some prime alex cockburn snark from the 90s abt delorean: like repeatedly tried, always failed

mark s, Monday, 5 February 2024 20:43 (two months ago) link

also:
https://dinkytvspace.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/captain-scarlet-catalogue.png

mark s, Monday, 5 February 2024 20:45 (two months ago) link

crate containing radio active isotopes

mark s, Monday, 5 February 2024 20:46 (two months ago) link

One of my best friends recently bought a Tesla. No idea what model. It completely surprised me, I had no idea he swung that way. He's very excited because they came to the house to fix a problem. It will be interesting to see his evolution.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 5 February 2024 20:49 (two months ago) link

gull-wing doors look cool. now imagine parking your vehicle in any normal parking lot slot, with cars in both adjacent spaces, then swinging up your gull wing doors. so not gonna happen.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 5 February 2024 20:55 (two months ago) link

yeah, capital gains taxes don't really diminish once you retire, but if your total income is low when you sell stuff off you can fiddle around a bit

think generally if you're a retail TSLA shareholder sitting on massive gains, you're paying long term capital gains tax, which is favorable at a flat 15-20%... if you're making $100,000 from selling your stock you're giving up $15-20k but you're also getting $80k of cash... regardless of what tax bracket you're in

so i don't think it's a tax reason that's holding back retail shareholders from selling. they probably just have FOMO from fear of selling too soon. and now are probably on the wrong side of the S curve. hah hah

, Monday, 5 February 2024 21:08 (two months ago) link

telsa is getting beat by other electric only carmakers, byd selling more cars

― lag∞n, Monday, February 5, 2024 12:47 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

guess byd was a gas car company and only stopped making them a couple years ago fyi

lag∞n, Monday, 5 February 2024 21:15 (two months ago) link

i was in china just recently and saw a lot of BYDs on the road (it stands for Build Your Dreams) they looked good the company is definitely building some dreams

, Monday, 5 February 2024 21:23 (two months ago) link

One of my best friends recently bought a Tesla. No idea what model. It completely surprised me, I had no idea he swung that way. He's very excited because they came to the house to fix a problem. It will be interesting to see his evolution.

A friend of mine has a Tesla. Something was wrong with the charging - that is, it wasn't - which took several repair attempts and returns to the dealer. Eventually they discovered it was something wrong with the charging port, and replaced it. I asked my friend if Tesla paid for it all, and dealt with picking up and returning the car, and he said yes, but was still super pissed at all those wasted hours and days of failed repair attempts, not to mention a long stretch without a car.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 February 2024 21:28 (two months ago) link

Wall St. Journal really going hard on the "Musk is a druggie" beat. Which might annoy me in other cases but hey, have at it.

Multiple directors of Elon Musk’s companies—some who have used drugs with him—have deep personal and financial ties to the billionaire entrepreneur, and have profited enormously from the relationship https://t.co/4IIOq8aWzI https://t.co/4IIOq8aWzI

— The Wall Street Journal (@WSJ) February 7, 2024

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 04:30 (two months ago) link

Was stuck behind a Tesla yesterday that had their turn signal on for about 20 city blocks. Guess they don't have the technology to solve that just yet.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 8 February 2024 15:48 (two months ago) link

next software update

lag∞n, Thursday, 8 February 2024 15:52 (two months ago) link

musk revealed a fraud, tesla fans don't know where to turn

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Thursday, 8 February 2024 15:58 (two months ago) link

gull-wing doors look cool. now imagine parking your vehicle in any normal parking lot slot, with cars in both adjacent spaces, then swinging up your gull wing doors. so not gonna happen.

― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, February 5, 2024 2:55 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol yeah no shit, I was just sandwiched in between two huge fucking trucks in a ramp the other day, our parking infrastructure was not designed for these vehicle sizes

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 February 2024 16:49 (two months ago) link

those tesla doors tbf have hinges in them so they dont take up too much space while opening tbf, but putting them on the back seats and not the front is still very funny

lag∞n, Thursday, 8 February 2024 16:53 (two months ago) link

Last week I actually had to sit in a lobby for about 20 minutes to wait for one of the absolutely massive pickup trucks parked on either side of me to leave before I could even think about getting in my car. Had a few moments of, "wait, what the fuck am I actually going to do if they don't leave?" because there was literally mere inches on either side (jackass #2 was kind enough to back in to his spot to make sure he could get out unimpeded though!).

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 8 February 2024 16:53 (two months ago) link

I see a Model Y driving around every so often, it’s so ugly in person. There’s nothing particularly offensive about it (vs. the Cybertruck) but the entire package is hideous.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 8 February 2024 17:03 (two months ago) link

i modded a sunroof button onto my fob. take that dinotruckers!

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Thursday, 8 February 2024 17:07 (two months ago) link

I saw one in the flesh last weekend

Amazing there's no clear coat, what a dumb omission... you'll have to be out there with Bar Keepers Friend and a green scrubby pad

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 21:28 (two months ago) link

look if there's one thing Cybertruck owners are probably good at, it's this: cleaning things on a regular basis

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 21:31 (two months ago) link

Maybe you need to treat it like a cast iron pan. Soak it in oil then hit it with a flamethrower to season the exterior.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 21:51 (two months ago) link

Cybertruck Lodge Edition

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 21:54 (two months ago) link

I get the feeling that 'this corrosion' is just the first of many problems to come with this vehicle, but early adopters won't admit the issues

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 21:58 (two months ago) link

It's not the first! The wheel covers are known to fly off and they also seem to be causing unpredictable wear on the tires

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 22:04 (two months ago) link

I'm just going to cover my cybertruck with human skin

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 22:09 (two months ago) link

amazing things are happening with elons burner account

https://i.imgur.com/69VESKi.png

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 05:05 (two months ago) link

how are we all sleeping on this story: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/16/foremost-group-ceo-angela-chao-died-after-car-went-into-texas-pond.html

on this thread bcz the car was a tesla, it backed her into the pond, and the texas ranch belongs to her BiL mitch mcconnell

mark s, Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:11 (two months ago) link

what the shit

She was one of my college classmates (I did not know her)

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:12 (two months ago) link

wow, from a cursory search there doesnt seem to be any reputable reporting saying it was a telsa at this point fwiw

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:16 (two months ago) link

also "Foremost Group" ok but whats the name of the group haha

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:17 (two months ago) link

they made up that it was a tesla bcz that changed the story from wtf front page news to ho hum dog-bites-man

mark s, Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:20 (two months ago) link

also in highly non-reputable sources i'm reading that she was a high-up member of the CPC

mark s, Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:21 (two months ago) link

a quick twitter search is telling me the tesla was hacked

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:24 (two months ago) link

This is the link that was shared among my alumni group; also no mention of Tesla: https://www.tradewindsnews.com/people/angela-chao-dies-in-car-accident-as-foremost-group-mourns-charismatic-and-visionary-leader/2-1-1597405

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:25 (two months ago) link

fwiw this was a front page story on nytimes.com when it happened.

any conspiracy angle is presumably coming from trump fans rather than tesla haters.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:27 (two months ago) link

yeah it is trump guys

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:29 (two months ago) link

ok lol i heard it from a muslim communist on bluesky tho (fact)

mark s, Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:32 (two months ago) link

Wait what is the conspiracy? How is Trump involved? what happened, i’m confused

(tbc I don’t care all that much about the alleged Tesla connection, I just don’t get why it would be coming from a Trump-related conspiracy)

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:35 (two months ago) link

iirc trump sic'd his followers on elaine chao (and spread rumors of CCP involvement) after she resigned on jan 6 and was rumored to be one of the cabinet members involved in the inoking the 25th amendment. and he hates mcconnell.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:37 (two months ago) link

and this seems like a messy event at the mcconnell ranch including an obvious cover up (not admitting it was a tesla)

mark s, Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:39 (two months ago) link

this guy seems to be the prime pusher of the tesla theory idk if hes trumpy def seems a lil trumpish at least

‼️ Angela Chao’s death at a private Texas ranch in Blanco, County is suspicious. ‼️ Chao entered her Tesla and backed into a pond on the ranch and passed away. Chao, almost certainly a high-ranking member of the Communist Parry of China (she sat the board of state-owned pic.twitter.com/luN0NodLiZ

— 🇺🇸 Kyle Bass 🇹🇼 (@Jkylebass) February 14, 2024

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:43 (two months ago) link

much to think about

Angela Chao didn't kill herself, and a car backing up into the pond was not an accident. She drove a Tesla that's easily hackable, but why Angela was she the target, or was she used as a warning to someone else?

— Jericho (@JerichoXVI) February 20, 2024

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:46 (two months ago) link

‼️

mark s, Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:48 (two months ago) link

Oh that's sad. I met her a few times in New York in the 90s when she worked at Smith Barney with my friend. She was nice and I hadn't thought of her since. I had no idea who her sister and inlaws were until Covid and then I was kind of shocked she had married Bruce Wasserstein and wondered if family pressure had let her to that.

felicity, Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:51 (two months ago) link

I was kind of shocked she had married Bruce Wasserstein

― felicity, Thursday, February 22, 2024 1:51 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh gosh

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:59 (two months ago) link

ok heres the deep trump state promoting it

Brian Costello Tells Steve Bannon that the Angela Chao the sister-in-law of Mitch McConnell, Died after reportedly backing her Tesla into a pond. pic.twitter.com/iatVEMUC00

— Anthony Scott (@AnthonyScottTGP) February 14, 2024

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 February 2024 19:05 (two months ago) link

in lieu of r/conspiracy:

I took a look at the property and it appears there is a significant fence between the garage and the pond (would take a tremendous effort to back into), but there are numerous bridges and crossings on the way in to the compound that she might have just rolled into, esp in the middle of the. night in rural Texas with little to no street illumination.

https://www.landandfarm.com/property/893-acres-in-blanco-county-300276/

This is kind of grim because this video opens with perhaps her final resting place and seems to concentrate on all the water features of the property:
https://www.landandfarm.com/property/893-acres-in-blanco-county-300276/

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 22 February 2024 19:08 (two months ago) link

whoops, grim video link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fb3XqBE4LM

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 22 February 2024 19:08 (two months ago) link

FWIW, "tesla accidents backing into pond" ---> About 1,540,000 results. Circumstantial hearsay from Tesla haters, fans, etc. If she was using full self-driving on the Tesla, it could have very well backed into the pond on its own.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 22 February 2024 21:30 (two months ago) link

who these claimants are says more about justice and tesla than i enjoy knowing. tho tbh i am not spending extra to know these stories

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Thursday, 22 February 2024 21:41 (two months ago) link

Comrade Full Self Driving

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 22 February 2024 22:52 (two months ago) link

Musk released a full of shit statement claiming that the first neurolink patient is "able to control a mouse using only their thoughts," and my first thought was mouse the animal, and that this was like "Willard," and I thought, cool! Only just now did I realize they meant a computer mouse, and I thought, lame.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 February 2024 14:20 (two months ago) link

also certainly untrue

mark s, Friday, 23 February 2024 14:25 (two months ago) link

I'm guessing a mouse pointer onscreen, rather than the actual mouse?

Kim Kimberly, Friday, 23 February 2024 14:26 (two months ago) link

feel like that's been done already, I recall hearing about stroke victims 10 years ago being able to control something with their thoughts that could allow them to communicate

that said until Elon can actually prove it I assume this is nothing but more stock price manipulation

frogbs, Friday, 23 February 2024 14:39 (two months ago) link

yeah that tech has been around for 20+ years and you can do it without an implant

lag∞n, Friday, 23 February 2024 14:46 (two months ago) link

theres an old nova episode where alan alda steers a boat with his thoughts

lag∞n, Friday, 23 February 2024 14:47 (two months ago) link

tfw my cybertruck is steered by my intrusive thoughts

mark s, Friday, 23 February 2024 15:01 (two months ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Friday, 23 February 2024 15:21 (two months ago) link

Has Musk ever steered anyone wrong?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 February 2024 15:58 (two months ago) link

Does neurolink come with a self-driving mode?

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 23 February 2024 16:22 (two months ago) link

I heard if you pay for the neurolink blue checkmark level you get to steer a randomly selected Tesla with your mind.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 February 2024 16:32 (two months ago) link

My cybertruck telepathypilotTM took me straight to small, loose, ledge upstep where we got stuck and i died of thirst.

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Friday, 23 February 2024 16:32 (two months ago) link

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/elon-musk-says-rivian-needs-to-cut-costs-massively-and-its-execs-should-live-in-the-factory-or-the-tesla-rival-will-die/ar-BB1iJTOk

hehe. “and i say that in everybody’s best interest. not so much me— but rivian, investors, and especially truck buyers. you don’t want to end up with an unsupported truck.”

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Friday, 23 February 2024 19:19 (two months ago) link

I’m glad Matt Sweeney got his Guitar Moves video series back from Vice after they shuttered Noisey.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 23 February 2024 19:31 (two months ago) link

Yes, having "execs live in the factory" is good for production.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 23 February 2024 19:33 (two months ago) link

execs sleep in the cars

lag∞n, Friday, 23 February 2024 19:40 (two months ago) link

I think we can attribute many of Elon's decisions to lack of sleep.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 23 February 2024 19:44 (two months ago) link

He should introduce a Smart Bed.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 February 2024 19:57 (two months ago) link

oh yes, rivian should absolutely thank elon for his concern trolling their potential customers and investors. amazingly selfless of him to help out a competitor!

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 23 February 2024 20:06 (two months ago) link

He is thinking of the Earth first, business second.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 February 2024 20:09 (two months ago) link

I've started seeing Rivian - unlike Teslas they actually do look kind of futuristic in a way, like they'd be driving around in a William Gibson novel set 20 years in the future. Not quite good looking but at least more interesting than the Tesla blobs or Hot Wheels.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 23 February 2024 20:42 (two months ago) link

They stand out because there are not that many of them and they are not Teslas. See also: Lucid.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 February 2024 20:55 (two months ago) link

Rode in a Rivian Uber last summer in Boulder, I liked it more than riding in a Tesla for sure.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 February 2024 20:57 (two months ago) link

visited one at about 10500 ft on the colorado alpine loop a year and a half ago, seemed nice enough. rather doubt it was going all the way round, but perhaps. had to be very heavy. i would enjoy seeing a cybertruck limping around even the bottom of that.

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Friday, 23 February 2024 21:06 (two months ago) link

They stand out because there are not that many of them and they are not Teslas. See also: Lucid.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, February 23, 2024 3:55 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

fart

lag∞n, Friday, 23 February 2024 21:58 (two months ago) link

Is that another luxury EV?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 February 2024 21:59 (two months ago) link

yuck ycuk

lag∞n, Friday, 23 February 2024 22:01 (two months ago) link

solid business plan

z_tbd, Monday, 26 February 2024 00:38 (one month ago) link

ran some numbers 1.8 / 2 * 3

lag∞n, Monday, 26 February 2024 00:42 (one month ago) link

People just love changing the email addresses that they've used for a long time. It keeps one's internet life fresh and interesting!

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 26 February 2024 00:43 (one month ago) link

i just tracked down the original tweet am afraid i must report that the guy was joking, my bad

lag∞n, Monday, 26 February 2024 00:48 (one month ago) link

ELON MUSK’S TUNNEL REPORTEDLY OOZING WITH SKIN-BURNING CHEMICAL SLUDGE: https://futurism.com/the-byte/elon-musk-boring-company-tunnel-sludge

but enough about x the everything app amirite

mark s, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 14:12 (one month ago) link

"You’d be like, 'Why am I on fire?'" one person who worked on the Hyperloop tunnels told Bloomberg.

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 14:16 (one month ago) link

“Tesla’s German gigafactory is polluting Berlin’s drinking water”: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/musk-accused-polluting-german-rivers-132031339.html

"Musk is the ugly reflection of our collective ineptitude, apathy and stupidity": https://niedermeyer.io/2024/02/02/its-the-impunity-stupid/

(the second is from a month ago and may be a repeat; first is from yesterday)

mark s, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 16:05 (one month ago) link

You mean to tell me the divorced drug addict who's adopted sister had kids with his dad, has ten kids of his own from four different women, and bought Twitter for $30 billion over market while on a ketamine bender so his Nazi friends could come back has never been to therapy? pic.twitter.com/0UaX5HaOMl

— Patrick S. Tomlinson (@stealthygeek) March 1, 2024

Rich E. (Eric H.), Friday, 1 March 2024 13:06 (one month ago) link

These fuckin guys

BREAKING: The legal team for a shareholder who voided Elon Musk's Tesla pay package asked a Delaware judge in a Friday court filing to award them 29 million shares of the electric vehicle maker as fee, worth about $5.95 billion. https://t.co/0PiJcGs9tY

— Sawyer Merritt (@SawyerMerritt) March 1, 2024

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 2 March 2024 16:58 (one month ago) link

seems fair

lag∞n, Saturday, 2 March 2024 17:05 (one month ago) link

Don’t ask, don’t get

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 2 March 2024 21:05 (one month ago) link

love my cybortruck but i think it is not good that it tries to kill me and my family if i may sir

Love @tesla and my @cybertruck but “catastrophe failure” with steering and brakes while on a road trip with wife and toddler…. Pretty pretty pretty not good. Oh and service center not open today. @elonmusk pic.twitter.com/vfvevsRsh8

— Matthew Chiarello (@ChiarelloERISA) March 3, 2024

lag∞n, Monday, 4 March 2024 01:47 (one month ago) link

You have a first gen platform, expect issues. It’s better to shake it out in town for at least 3-5K miles before a roadtrip.

— Saugar Maripuri (@saugarmaripuri) March 3, 2024


Early adoption problems.

— Magikarpe Diem (@Letitgoku) March 4, 2024


When you buy 1st gen products. You are inherently a beta tester…
Glad your family is ok after that.

— Daniel C Bittencourt (@danielcbit) March 4, 2024

lag∞n, Monday, 4 March 2024 01:52 (one month ago) link

Snort. We're all beta testers with those self-driving deathtrap behemoths on the road. I don't recall signing a release OK'ing getting hit by one of those things while they work out the kinks.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 March 2024 13:14 (one month ago) link

Tough this one as, as far as I can tell from the instructions leaflet, the toddler goes in the trunk.

nashwan, Monday, 4 March 2024 13:56 (one month ago) link

a century of product safety law and regulation is no precedent when you are selling a cybotruck. just sellin it and being a fucking LEGEND, that's all.

the kwisatz sasquatch (Hunt3r), Monday, 4 March 2024 14:48 (one month ago) link

and you buyer, the greater fool. sucka.

the kwisatz sasquatch (Hunt3r), Monday, 4 March 2024 14:48 (one month ago) link

bad software has trained these people to eat shit, they like it even

lag∞n, Monday, 4 March 2024 14:54 (one month ago) link

Beta testing cars isn't really a thing.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 4 March 2024 17:59 (one month ago) link

lol yeah, testing cars is a thing, a thing car companies do a lot of to make sure their cars work before selling them

lag∞n, Monday, 4 March 2024 18:01 (one month ago) link

you can see all kinds of road testing pics online! usually they have a weird wrap on to obscure what the body looks like

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 4 March 2024 18:14 (one month ago) link

the wrap is so annoying let us see the unfinished cars

lag∞n, Monday, 4 March 2024 18:15 (one month ago) link

A Tesla Cybertruck crashed into the Beverly Hills hotel sign last night pic.twitter.com/0rjtLGHeCj

— LA Scanner (@LAScanner) March 4, 2024

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 00:34 (one month ago) link

the stainless steel Yugo

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 00:47 (one month ago) link

You can't buy that kind of publicity!

nickn, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 02:30 (one month ago) link

Saw someone on Twitter say "The driver crashed because he was tweeting a woman to tell her she was wrong"

I hope the toddlers got out ok, check the glove compartment.

nashwan, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 09:58 (one month ago) link

tbf that is a tricky intersection

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 16:33 (one month ago) link

seems like there could be something wrong with the cybotruck there arent that many of them out there

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:cfy5rgqvohpdqxgu2geb5u2b/bafkreias52d3oyqujxzw2gj2alzlp7esbqelyvqaqpa35hr26hz53ddekq@jpeg

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 18:33 (one month ago) link

They should recall the company. Hell recall Elon

octobeard, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 18:59 (one month ago) link

Hell doesn't want him.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 19:00 (one month ago) link

wheres he gonna move now

EARLY RETURNS in Austin: Jose Garza, the progressive DA whose opponent was endorsed by Elon Musk today, is up big in the early vote.

— Taniel (@Taniel) March 6, 2024

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 02:14 (one month ago) link

lol

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 15:37 (one month ago) link

Garza won in case you're wondering

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 15:41 (one month ago) link

“Super rich ex-wives who hate their former spouse” should filed be listed among “Reasons that Western Civilization died”

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 6, 2024

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 March 2024 02:32 (one month ago) link

incredible

mookieproof, Thursday, 7 March 2024 02:40 (one month ago) link

i never knew a shitstain could have such a big ego

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 7 March 2024 02:41 (one month ago) link

"died" past tense.. seems to be chugging along pretty decently

I think we're starting to see the real Elon though, finally

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 7 March 2024 02:49 (one month ago) link

feel like never before has wealth been this separated from self-awareness

mookieproof, Thursday, 7 March 2024 02:52 (one month ago) link

#ExWifeGuy

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 7 March 2024 02:57 (one month ago) link

The context of why he's saying that is even more important - he's bitching because someone ELSES "rich ex-wife" is... gasp... giving away all her riches to the needy!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 7 March 2024 04:32 (one month ago) link

Like, it isnt even his? Its Bezos'? Elon mate give up already, you look like a potato on legs and are nowhere near as useful.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 7 March 2024 04:33 (one month ago) link

So much of the right-wing mindset just boils down to, "They'll never take my gold heh heh hee, NEVER!"

To the extent that they hate other rich people giving money away because it might give people ideas.

What if we gave a guy whose media diet consists entirely of Joe Rogan episodes and “feminist college students gets OWNED” YouTube videos all the money in the world?

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 7 March 2024 05:09 (one month ago) link

should filed be listed

bae (sic), Thursday, 7 March 2024 06:37 (one month ago) link

Elon actually deleted that one? hah hah

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 7 March 2024 15:18 (one month ago) link

even for him that's an embarrassing tweet

frogbs, Thursday, 7 March 2024 15:21 (one month ago) link

Mackenzie Scott should take over Twitter

symsymsym, Thursday, 7 March 2024 16:13 (one month ago) link

saw the famed cybertruck "in the wild" yesterday, looked even dumbed than i'd hoped

Clay, Friday, 8 March 2024 01:19 (one month ago) link

its bulletproof so if you see one you can shoot it thats considered ok

lag∞n, Friday, 8 March 2024 01:23 (one month ago) link

Somebody down the hill from me has one, it looks like it needs some Easy-Off oven cleaner

I've been wrong before, but this might end up being one of the greatest laughing stock lemons of the personal car era

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 8 March 2024 01:50 (one month ago) link

The Yugo is the bar and may never be dethroned. But cybertruck is the undisputed champion at its price point.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 8 March 2024 04:14 (one month ago) link

gotta give the pinto some love

lag∞n, Friday, 8 March 2024 04:19 (one month ago) link

cars are so much better now it would take a drugged up sleep deprived billionaire to make a really bad one

lag∞n, Friday, 8 March 2024 04:20 (one month ago) link

idk, at least the yugo didn't blow up like a pinto iirc? anyway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F02P2JO7yfc

mookieproof, Friday, 8 March 2024 04:22 (one month ago) link

my grandfather drove pintos for years cause the exploding problem was fixed but the name was trashed so you could get them for cheap lol

lag∞n, Friday, 8 March 2024 04:25 (one month ago) link

classic grandfather behavior

mookieproof, Friday, 8 March 2024 04:35 (one month ago) link

I saw a cybertruck on the streets last night. It's smaller than I was expecting, which made it all the more ungainly looking. Looked like something you would see in a low-budget sci-fi movie where they take all the body panels off of a suburban and replace it with a bunch of welded-on "aero" made out of commercial restaurant sinks. 100% troll move against the Musketeers - you must show your devotion by tithing $100K and literally encasing yourself in rolling embarrassment. The presumably bulletproof exterior will block most scorn and ridicule. Presumably.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 8 March 2024 06:59 (one month ago) link

what other examples are there of this precise flavor of mass devotion?

obviously there's trump, but even the people buying trump steaks don't justify it by suggesting that trump is leading humanity to the stars. and there are cults like heaven's gate etc., but none of them involved the richest person in the world

mookieproof, Friday, 8 March 2024 07:12 (one month ago) link

Ape NFTs

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 8 March 2024 07:33 (one month ago) link

lol i guess so!

mookieproof, Friday, 8 March 2024 07:49 (one month ago) link

i suppose chatGPT has already created its own cohort of these

mookieproof, Friday, 8 March 2024 07:51 (one month ago) link

Looked like something you would see in a low-budget sci-fi movie where they take all the body panels off of a suburban and replace it with a bunch of welded-on "aero" made out of commercial restaurant sinks.

― Elvis Telecom, Friday, March 8, 2024 1:59 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

lmao

lag∞n, Friday, 8 March 2024 13:43 (one month ago) link

but none of them involved the richest person in the world

I know that he was for a while and he may be again but I've noticed news reports and videos continue to refer to him as such lately even when he isn't (Bernard Arnault leapfrogged him and Bezos and Zuck are close enough to Musk in supposed net worth for those three to likely be constantly overtaking each other).

nashwan, Friday, 8 March 2024 14:20 (one month ago) link

trump bragging he’s richer than musk wld be fun how can we make that happen

... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Friday, 8 March 2024 14:58 (one month ago) link

Cybertruck is like Elon Musk's face it only looks good from one angle

frogbs, Friday, 8 March 2024 16:16 (one month ago) link

what other examples are there of this precise flavor of mass devotion?

Crypto for sure, although it lacks a single figurehead.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 March 2024 17:56 (one month ago) link

Fittingly, though, Musk has had his hand in crypto.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 March 2024 17:57 (one month ago) link

there have been striver cults around rich guys yr henry fords yr warren buffettes or even pre politics trump, social media may have tweaked the situation with elon tho

lag∞n, Friday, 8 March 2024 18:53 (one month ago) link

lol I just learned that this dumb truck has a paired attachable "cybertent" or some nonsense that is supposed to go on the back and that they are selling for $3,000. And that reportedly is a POS.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 March 2024 19:20 (one month ago) link

c'mon you can't post that without posting the pic of the concept art vs. the final product

https://i0.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2024/03/tesla-cybertruck-meme.jpg?w=1500&quality=82&strip=all&ssl=1

, Friday, 8 March 2024 19:23 (one month ago) link

lol

c u (crüt), Friday, 8 March 2024 19:24 (one month ago) link

I’m convinced, here is my $$$$$

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Friday, 8 March 2024 19:28 (one month ago) link

haa

lag∞n, Friday, 8 March 2024 19:38 (one month ago) link

Surely that can't be real.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 March 2024 19:40 (one month ago) link

Maybe it looks better without the rain fly.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 March 2024 19:50 (one month ago) link

if you have a normal pickup you can just get a cap and sleep in there no tent needed

lag∞n, Friday, 8 March 2024 19:53 (one month ago) link

we have a kelty car tent, universal, attaches to most cars, cost about $100 on sale

https://images.etrailer.com/static/images/pics/k/e/ke53tr_21_1000.jpg

, Friday, 8 March 2024 19:55 (one month ago) link

that tesla tent looks like it is available for $19 from 8 companies with different AI generated names and product photography on amazon

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 8 March 2024 20:22 (one month ago) link

The Temu special.

nickn, Friday, 8 March 2024 22:24 (one month ago) link

concept art vs finished product is "We have a Cybertruck at home, but it's the Cybertruck"

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 8 March 2024 23:28 (one month ago) link

why isnt it sitting on the bed what is its sitting on ???????

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:y4ziklh6w6q3zencduqpdmiv/bafkreifzvxmzp7wekbbidzbfgjgwjhni6pghoeggdf4ao7ikfagc7urbbm@jpeg

lag∞n, Saturday, 9 March 2024 17:37 (one month ago) link

Christ that’s horrific

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Saturday, 9 March 2024 19:49 (one month ago) link

biting my tongue as hard as i can

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 9 March 2024 20:14 (one month ago) link

one down

bae (sic), Saturday, 9 March 2024 20:29 (one month ago) link

“…this was not a typical accident…”

…because a billionaire was involved

thanks sic. I was going to make a joke about Tesla and a pond taking Mr. Choppy's job away from him, but

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 9 March 2024 21:51 (one month ago) link

If we had effective government Teslas would have been recalled or banned years ago and Musk in jail for stock manipulation but alas we rely on him for our space program lol.

from a prominent family of bassoon players (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 9 March 2024 22:16 (one month ago) link

amazing to think mcconnell just isnt going to do anything at all, a true reptile

lag∞n, Saturday, 9 March 2024 23:37 (one month ago) link

I think I saw this story on an episode of the Blacklist.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Sunday, 10 March 2024 01:58 (one month ago) link

Any time I’ve gotten into a Tesla, the damn door handles are inscrutable, maybe that makes it harder to rescue someone.

epistantophus, Sunday, 10 March 2024 02:05 (one month ago) link

theyre electric too so if the power is out cause say youre submerged in water and inside the car you have to use a back up handle that you might not even be aware of, not sure how you open them from the outside without power, likewise gear shifting is done via the touchscreen tho by law there is a physical shifter too, hate this type of shit door handles are solved they work and dont cause anyone any problems

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 March 2024 02:12 (one month ago) link

Right, there were shitty dudes on social networks today trying to explain that "she would have been able to open the doors if she had read the manual."

peace, man, Sunday, 10 March 2024 02:14 (one month ago) link

I hate all the bullshit they set in motion that other EVs (and other cars?) seem to have as well. Like, dumb door handles, giant iPad screens, that sort of bullshit.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 10 March 2024 02:15 (one month ago) link

Like, fine, introduced new technology, add features and new buttons, whatever, but why change the fundamental things that don't need to be changed, like steering wheels or handles?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 10 March 2024 02:17 (one month ago) link

new lux cars use their huge multiple screens as a marketing lure dont we all get enough screen time

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 March 2024 02:18 (one month ago) link

I was getting into a Tesla rideshare recently and the door handle sprouted out of the door when the driver pressed a button to let me in. I was honestly afraid to grip the handle to open the door, because I didn’t know if it would retract and crush my hand. I said so to the driver and he said it happened to him once. F that.

epistantophus, Sunday, 10 March 2024 02:31 (one month ago) link

lol unbelievable

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 March 2024 02:34 (one month ago) link

For $5/mo. you get a firmware override of the Titan sub simulation.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 10 March 2024 05:44 (one month ago) link

the rivian tent looks good https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/08/rivians-new-treehouse-rooftop-tent-comes-with-a-movie-projector/

and at least there's an actual prototype, not just concept art

https://techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/rivian-r3x-hatchback.jpg?w=1390&crop=1

, Monday, 11 March 2024 14:13 (one month ago) link

I'm not a camping guy, but all of these car-tent situations seem to be pretty point-missing to me

rob, Monday, 11 March 2024 14:20 (one month ago) link

lol when my brother in law would go camping in the outback, he would just pack a big sheet of plywood to slap on the roof to give them a snake-free place to sleep.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 March 2024 14:20 (one month ago) link

I'm not a camping guy, but all of these car-tent situations seem to be pretty point-missing to me

― rob, Monday, March 11, 2024 10:20 AM (twenty-nine seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah kind of agree, tho ive not camped a lot in high snake areas, actually i have camped in places with lots of rattlesnakes but theyre very easy to avoid and also snakes arent active at night due to being cold blooded, camping on top of your car looks very silly but is prob nice from the pov of it being a flat surface, tho you would need to park your truck on flat ground for that to be true, i think i saw one of the new fancy trucks can adjust its suspension to go flat when parked, you could also just bring a sleeping mat and a bag and sleep on the ground, or sleep in the back of your car/truck a vehicle it sort of like a tent

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 14:27 (one month ago) link

ive also never seen one of those roof tents irl prob theyre not that popular due to being silly

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 14:28 (one month ago) link

the whole line about how this stuff wouldn't happen "if only they read the manual" is so ridiculous to me, like do people actually ever read the owner's manuals cover to cover? isn't a huge part of modern technology design the fact that you shouldn't have to explain how things work? isn't that how Apple became the biggest tech company in the world, because everyone could use their stuff without getting confused?

frogbs, Monday, 11 March 2024 14:49 (one month ago) link

yeah its very dumb and bad

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 14:55 (one month ago) link

same people who assess threat levels at the supermarket, latent jason bournes

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 14:58 (one month ago) link

car camping is pretty popular in the US and prob the default option at a lot of state and national parks, at the end of the day the car camp solutions are just an intermediary step to a RV

, Monday, 11 March 2024 14:59 (one month ago) link

if you read the manual you would remember that to get out of the tesla you simply have to remove the speaker grills or fold the back seat down while the car is filling with water

Remember, this is how you’re supposed to get out of a Tesla when it’s lost power and you’re panicking in an emergency… https://t.co/Wyk1AuBYHS pic.twitter.com/yBL890QUJg

— Kristi Yamaguccimane (@TheWapplehouse) March 10, 2024

, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:00 (one month ago) link

snakes arent active at night due to being cold blooded

As I understand it, this can work against you, since snakes are attracted to your heat and cuddle up next to you for warmth in the night. And then when you wiggle too much or wake up, you're both in for a surprise.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:03 (one month ago) link

xp - it is absolutely insane that those vehicles are legal. jesus christ I didn't realize!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 11 March 2024 15:05 (one month ago) link

"if only they read the manual"

Yeah, this makes sense for unique or infrequently used features, but it shouldn't be the case for stuff like, say, opening doors. Maybe one exception is the latches they now put in trunks to prevent you from getting locked in, that would probably be good to know before it's too late.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:05 (one month ago) link

the back seat manual door "handle" is truly insane, the front door one is just gravely negligent

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:05 (one month ago) link

at the end of the day it's hard to escape a submerged car no matter what you do. think the best advice is to keep a glass breaker in the glove compartment at all times?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC68mflUEwc

, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:06 (one month ago) link

Those dumbass bullet/rock/arrow proof windows, can they be smashed open in an emergency? Or are they just another deathtrap feature?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:07 (one month ago) link

As I understand it, this can work against you, since snakes are attracted to your heat and cuddle up next to you for warmth in the night. And then when you wiggle too much or wake up, you're both in for a surprise.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, March 11, 2024 11:03 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

theyre not gonna curl up with you if theyre already inactive, and tbh the idea of an animal just curling up with a bigger animal seems pretty dubious, also spots where people tend to camp flat open areas arent really snake places snakes like nooks and crannies places where they can keep a low profile rocky scrubby spots etc, can understand australians being particularly weary tho as australia is trying to kill them

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:14 (one month ago) link

“door handles are solved they work and dont cause anyone any problems”

^^^^So much stupid new crap these days comes down to this basic principle, it’s annoying af

brimstead, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:15 (one month ago) link

much like what's going on with Trump I can't help but wonder if Ford or Chevy or Nissan started pulling this shit.

frogbs, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:18 (one month ago) link

tfw when animal curl up w/bigger animal xp

https://www.pafa.org/sites/default/files/artworkpics/1985_17_l.jpg

mark s, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:18 (one month ago) link

the lion is like wtf is going on bro should i eat these guys

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:20 (one month ago) link

CCTV footage of Musk on site that fateful night
https://j.gifs.com/KB1Y2e.gif

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:24 (one month ago) link

Maybe one exception is the latches they now put in trunks to prevent you from getting locked in, that would probably be good to know before it's too late.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, March 11, 2024 11:05 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

its funny cause those are by law designed to be very easy to spot they even glow in the dark, so on the off chance you find yourself in the truck youll prob be fine, if youre in the part of the car where humans usually ride youre on your own tho

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:26 (one month ago) link

xxpost lol those big cats look embarrassed to be caught not eating those (probably meant to be) newborn babies.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:26 (one month ago) link

they even glow in the dark,

You go in first to confirm, I'll just wait out here and open it up when you knock.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:28 (one month ago) link

think the best advice is to keep a glass breaker in the glove compartment at all times?

we have one in the center console and one in the glove box and then plan c is apparently you can remove the headrest and try with the metal stalks on that.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 11 March 2024 15:28 (one month ago) link

plan a: don't buy a 900-acre sprawling ranch property with multiple big deep lakes

, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:31 (one month ago) link

just dont let the kids get ahold of it lol xp

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:31 (one month ago) link

think the best advice is to keep a glass breaker in the glove compartment at all times?

Musk has disrupted you all by installing software that breaks the entire car.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:34 (one month ago) link

that mythbusters video said 11k cars went into the water a year with only 300 deaths, wonder if that includes water thats not deep enough to cover the car tho

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:36 (one month ago) link

I wonder if anyone has ever suffocated in a dry-docked submarine?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:37 (one month ago) link

just dont let the kids get ahold of it lol xp

haha seriously. when I got them I was like "how do I know these work, it sure would be fun to try them. just a little tap."

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 11 March 2024 15:46 (one month ago) link

some quick googling sez that the resqme glass breakers are recommended. buying a couple!

, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:48 (one month ago) link

you should totally find a junked car an break the windows xp

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:48 (one month ago) link

re: camping, the new rivian 2 has fold flat seats front and back, that seems more useful than the ability to put a tent on the roof.

from 9:30 here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0Gt_PUyldc

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 11 March 2024 15:49 (one month ago) link

resqme is what we have. glass breaker and seatbelt cutter in one.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 11 March 2024 15:50 (one month ago) link

i keep a sleeping bag/mat/camping pillow in the back of my outback, its not the best place to seep but no worse than a tent

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:51 (one month ago) link

Unclear why y’all are driving into lakes to begin with

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 11 March 2024 15:52 (one month ago) link

youre telling me when youre cruising along some beautiful lakeside country road you dont want to just turn in there be serious

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:53 (one month ago) link

yeah we do it all the time on road trips. kids get to pick a song or "lake time".

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 11 March 2024 15:55 (one month ago) link

I wasn't worried about my car flying into a lake but now I'm worried a tesla's going to autopilot itself into the side of my car when I'm driving next to a body of water

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 11 March 2024 16:21 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOW_kPzY_JY

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 March 2024 17:03 (one month ago) link

lol that's exactly the scene I was picturing

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 11 March 2024 17:11 (one month ago) link

its not the best place to seep but no worse than a tent

cars are worse to sleep in than a tent in deserts and mountains bc they are much colder than a tent, due to being enormous piles of metal and not on the ground

bae (sic), Monday, 11 March 2024 18:09 (one month ago) link

^learned that the hard way in boy scouts

more than offset by the fact that theyre insulated

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:12 (one month ago) link

i slept in my car in the nevada desert after driving all day listening to a podcast about the manson family lol

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:14 (one month ago) link

all teslas should autoplay manson family podcasts

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 11 March 2024 18:19 (one month ago) link

tesla 3 charlie edition

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:21 (one month ago) link

rooftop tents are necessary in high croc activity areas

micah, Monday, 11 March 2024 19:43 (one month ago) link

submersible rooftop anti-croc tent

mark s, Monday, 11 March 2024 19:44 (one month ago) link

snakes are typically pretty good climbers though

micah, Monday, 11 March 2024 19:45 (one month ago) link

The CT and its tent are clearly missing the point. The point of having a roof tent is to show you have a roof tent by keeping it, your awning, duckboards etc. on view at all times. How else would you be able to demonstrate that you’re ready for a 3 day bogging in a whole pit full of snakes on the way to Woolies?

My neighbour goes to work in this monstrosity and, despite the nearest crocodile being more than 2300km away; He’s ready.

https://tinypic.host/images/2024/03/11/IMG_7144.jpeg

Ed, Monday, 11 March 2024 20:17 (one month ago) link

rooftop tents are necessary in high croc activity areas

https://gohikevirginia.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/four-crocs-flickr-katsuuu44.jpg

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 11 March 2024 20:21 (one month ago) link

I have slept in all kinds of places— offramps, hobo jungles, on the ground at 10,000 feet during a cold snap, etc. There is no issue with car tents, but like all "car camping"— that is, campsites where you pull up and then pitch a tent on your car or on the ground next to your car or whatever— it just isn't anything like actually camping. Glamping is its own thing, but to call it "camping" is a misnomer.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 11 March 2024 21:59 (one month ago) link

(and yes, I am aware that this makes me sound like an elitist, but I think all kinds of getting outdoors are great— I also have done my fair share of glamping!)

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 11 March 2024 22:01 (one month ago) link

the glampgrounds of our country

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 11 March 2024 22:05 (one month ago) link

When I think of "glamping" I think of people that pull up in their massive RV with every single creature comfort from home inside. While I get your point about camping in a tent right next to your car, I don't exactly think it's "glamping" if you are still sleeping on the ground, cooking food with a fire, etc etc.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 11 March 2024 22:08 (one month ago) link

a good kind of camping you can do out west cause theres so much public land is just as a free place to stay overnight, i used to go to the hot springs in steamboat co and there national forest right there just drive in there find a flat spot to crash and then look around when you wake up

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 22:15 (one month ago) link

national forests are great you can do whatever you want there are no laws in the national forest

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 22:16 (one month ago) link

If you’re not shitting in something at least strongly resembling a toilet it’s not glamping IMO.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 11 March 2024 22:17 (one month ago) link

I always think of 'glamping' as white canvas tents on wooden platforms, maybe a vase of flowers and a sheepskin throw, crumpets & espresso in the morning.. sort of like a safari

Sleeping in a tent on the ground is camping, in my book

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 11 March 2024 22:22 (one month ago) link

cold glampin' with flavor

mookieproof, Monday, 11 March 2024 22:24 (one month ago) link

If you’re not shitting in something at least strongly resembling a toilet it’s not glamping IMO.


this is a good way to think about it— like, is there a fire ring? picnic bench? pit toilet or actual running water with toilet on a larger campground? that’s glamping in my book.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 11 March 2024 22:28 (one month ago) link

the thing about car camping as far as like being in a campground with a bunch of other parties nearby is its just not that good, if youre camping in a nice spot and your car is nearby i see no problem, im not totally clear on what qualifies like if you take your sick 4x4 and traverse some wild terrain then camp is that car camping cause thats very nice, i mean the only time your car isnt nearby is if you hiked in then thats backpacking, thats the way rei categorizes its tents car camping and backpacking iirc, having the car is nice tbh cause you can keep a lot of stuff in there that you might like to have while camping

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 22:30 (one month ago) link

i think glamping involves having a really nice semi permanent tent that someone else set up for you, its a tent thats a hotel room basically, being in a koa campground is not glamorous its shitty actually

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 22:32 (one month ago) link

I stayed last summer at a rustic campground on Hwy 20 between Ft. Bragg & Willits, near the Jackson Demonstration Forest & the Lost Coast - there was a creek, but no faucets, and just a really smelly pit toilet; no reservations, just first come/first serve. That really keeps the crowds down, even in August.. I nearly had the whole place to myself

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 11 March 2024 22:32 (one month ago) link

Camping sucks, sleeping in a car sucks

I have slept on a beach and got woken up by the ocean spray. It sucked

Beds, rooms and suchlike are ideal for sleeping in

Those other sleeping arrangements can be the price of admission for getting to certain places or doing certain things but have little value in & of themselves, cause they suck

is how I break it down to an ex-tent

cozen itt (wins), Monday, 11 March 2024 22:41 (one month ago) link

camping is fun its an activity you can do with friends go somewhere nice and sit around a fire roast a hot dog eat some beers whats not to like you might not sleep that well but its ok youll sleep again, sleeping in the car is just useful sometimes its not supposed to be fun

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 22:45 (one month ago) link

um camping is just sleeping without a fixed shelter while doing fun remote things, with friends if u r lucky. going camping to “camp” seems v v silly to me.

i am about to go camping in mexico. if there’s reasonable cheap safe room avail, i’ll go for that for sure.

... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Monday, 11 March 2024 23:10 (one month ago) link

I have a weird angle because I live in the most terraformed, maybe least public land area and you get some state campgrounds with the fire ring and parking lot at most up a hill or KOA campgrounds or w/e and maybe a rare area you could hike into, but that’s probably the next state over

outside of the lakes governed by the Army Corps of Engineers with maintained dams it’s like, private land everywhere. both sides of rivers are private land, sometimes with no trespassing signs! it’s insane

when the entire Bundy ranch shit with people who were super angry they couldn’t just let their animals roam around federal land happened it was just silly and foreign to me!

Elon is worse than those people by far. just letting all his rocket pad debris blast into a neighboring wetland. working off the public money for space crap, sustainability credits. just a hatred of the commons he regularly exploits

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 11 March 2024 23:12 (one month ago) link

are u in TX? becuz that’s one reason i picked mexico.

... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Monday, 11 March 2024 23:14 (one month ago) link

I backpack fairly deep into wilderness areas, but over the decades I've accumulated enough lightweight gear that I can maintain a basic level of comfort nearly the whole time, as long as I'm not too picky about dirt, sweat and bugs, or eating rehydrated food. It's still about seeing nature and having some fun. I don't know, maybe table would call it glamping, too.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 11 March 2024 23:17 (one month ago) link

if you're eating food and you have a sleeping bag, it's glamping

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 11 March 2024 23:21 (one month ago) link

if youre not doing fun remote activities then hold on excel crashed

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 23:23 (one month ago) link

anyway that tent is a joke, let's keep focus on the south african asshole

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 11 March 2024 23:27 (one month ago) link

shoulda built a cybersprinter van imo

... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Monday, 11 March 2024 23:31 (one month ago) link

ya that wouldve been smart, or just a normal pickup

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2024 23:35 (one month ago) link

this is a good way to think about it— like, is there a fire ring? picnic bench? pit toilet or actual running water with toilet on a larger campground? that’s glamping in my book.

― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, March 11, 2024 3:28 PM (one hour ago)

this is dumb, all of these things are still camping, glamping is when there's a floor

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 11 March 2024 23:49 (one month ago) link

Aimless, you’re a backpacker, what you’re doing isn’t glamping.

At the end of the day, this is very silly, we just have different ideas of what camping is.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 00:08 (one month ago) link

to me the earth is the floor, maybe thats just me

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 00:10 (one month ago) link

table's definition is pretty weird because at least here on the EC it means that p much all state-run campgrounds are actually glampgrounds?

https://parks.ny.gov/camping/campsites/default.aspx

Most sites have a picnic table, fire pit or ring and nearby restrooms and many include amenities such as electric, water and sewer hook-up, and platforms.

yet these campsites are reserved for $20 a night... a glamp experience at a decidedly non-glamp price!

, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 11:48 (one month ago) link

he’s obviously exaggerating with “to me, that’s glamping!” but idk setting the bar pretty low is funny

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 13:00 (one month ago) link

do u even camp bro

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 13:03 (one month ago) link

if you don’t have to carry your poop out and leave no trace, that’s glamping

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 13:05 (one month ago) link

some places in the usa unwinterized cabins are called camps, but staying in one isnt called camping, much to think about

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 13:07 (one month ago) link

cold glampin' with flavor

― mookieproof, Monday, March 11, 2024 5:24 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

i got a roof tent, boy i'm not trampin

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 13:08 (one month ago) link

John Cougar Melonglamp

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 13:14 (one month ago) link

The way in which I personally do a thing is the only way to do that thing and if you do it differently you need to come up with a whole new word for it, sorry I don't make the rules except that I do

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 13:19 (one month ago) link

Notes on Glamp

I love the outdoors and being outdoors and going to new outdoors places and campfires and even spending the night in the outdoors, but camping sucks. It's like you spend all this time and effort and money to simulate living at home in a wildly inferior way that leaves you tired, achey, dirty, and hot/cold. Give me a cabin any day. It doesn't have to be glamping, I don't need running water or a flush toilet and shower, I just need a roof and walls and a bed. And a wood burning stove, if it's cold.

We used to go camping, as a crew, and one by one families dropped off. The final time was when we went somewhere, a well-regarded site, and it was in the '90s and humid and full of mosquitos and mud, and after the first night even the most pro-camper among us knew we would probably never do it again.

(BTW, fun fact, up until at least through the late '80s, a lot of US highway rest stops were still "rustic," without flush toilets. Maybe this is still the case, I've never encountered one myself, but my wife tells me they were staples of her visits to Nebraska.)

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 13:29 (one month ago) link

is how I break it down to an ex-tent

utter king-level posting from wins here, gone unremarked upon for a whole day. a prophet is without honor in his own country, shame

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 13:43 (one month ago) link

lol

I've only ever done a little bit of overnight backpacking, and a fair amount of car camping, and overall I agree that it's more trouble than I want to put into it. I love hiking, but I much prefer a good long day hike that I can do with a minimal pack and preparation (and be home in time for a nice bath and dinner). I know people who really love the entire backcountry experience, though, and I respect and admire their dedication.

its not a big deal doesnt require any big investment just lay down in the woods

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 13:47 (one month ago) link

Y'all are forgetting one of the best aspects of camping: the terrifying noises in the night.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 13:56 (one month ago) link

i was running in the mountains at night once when i heard the craziest sounds of i guess an animal being killed idk it was so loud and strange, mountain lion territory

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:01 (one month ago) link

raccoon fight outside your window at 3am is bad enough in a house

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:02 (one month ago) link

ive had a moose walk right by me like ten feet away while i was lying in my sleeping bag, very dangerous animal

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:03 (one month ago) link

Screech owls sound like humans being tortured.

I love hearing furtive footsteps in the leaves right outside the tent.

In all seriousness, I love backpacking and camping. I've been doing it with my kids for years, it's a great way to bond. But being in a remote place with only the resident creatures for company takes some getting used to.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:04 (one month ago) link

xp I keep thinking that in the lower 48 because I've seen some huuuge ones in northern Minnesota but some friends in Alaska were seeing them everywhere last week. Not sure if it's a different type of moose or if the younger ones just roam around everywhere up there

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:05 (one month ago) link

My sister encountered one a couple of years ago in Colorado. She said it was terrifying.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:07 (one month ago) link

ive seen tons of moose you just gotta keep your distance be respectful and so forth, the big bulls with full racks are amazing, fuckin huge beasts

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:08 (one month ago) link

one time i was running the woods and almost ran right into one, it was just a small female tho about horse size, we both took off opposite directions

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:10 (one month ago) link

Foxes sound like a woman being attacked, it's horrifying.

The sounds most familiar to me from camping are some neighboring site hooting it up till the early hours, and the inevitable sound of someone waking up in the middle of the night, unzipping the tent, then wandering off in the bushes to pee.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:10 (one month ago) link

xxp This one moseyed right up to the campsite, they couldn't really keep their distance. I guess it ambled off after a while. Maybe it was hoping for s'mores.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:10 (one month ago) link

Screech owls sound like humans being tortured.

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, March 12, 2024 10:04 AM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i heard weirdest funniest bird at night once and then did the call for a bunch of people before one finally told me it was a barred owl, cartoon ass sounding owl get real

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:11 (one month ago) link

Iirc there used to be a late night infomercial for some Faces of Death sort of video called When Animals Attack, or something like that. Mostly it was recreations, but as I remember it there is one real death in there, and it's somebody being stomped by a moose. The video doesn't show the apparent preceding several minutes of these dumb people throwing snowballs at the moose.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:20 (one month ago) link

worth a try you know

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:25 (one month ago) link

timely article https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/11/us/moose-encounter-what-to-do.html

, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:40 (one month ago) link

However, the clearest sign of imminent trouble — in the form of an animal weighing 1,000 pounds or more coming at you — is if a moose’s tongue is out and it’s licking its mouth, he said.

In that case, Mr. Libbey said, it’s no longer a question of if the moose will charge. “It’s going to happen,” he said.

licking its lips in anticipation of stomping you out

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:43 (one month ago) link

free the killfiled owl

mark s, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:47 (one month ago) link

was passing thru rocky mountain last fall during what apparently was rutting season. saw lot of rutting elk, sounded like a horror movie. not sure if i can reliably tell the difference between elk and moose but i'm pretty sure an elk would be just as capable at stomping me out

, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:48 (one month ago) link

did you go to estes to see the elk did you see the marmots people getting so close to elk there is wild

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:51 (one month ago) link

raccoon fight outside your window at 3am is bad enough in a house

― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, March 12, 2024 9:02 AM (forty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I lived in a complete shithole of a house in college where raccoons had taken up residence in the dirt basement and used to hold 3AM scream quorums directly under the floorboards of my bedroom, a real treat

I love that this is what the Musk thread has become

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:52 (one month ago) link

I guess that part of the reason why I enjoy camping is the backcountry experience, to a degree— I honestly think that being uncomfortable is worth it, especially if that is what’s required to experience real wilderness. So I recognize that part of my definition is borne from a sometimes latent or contradictory dislike of modern comforts and culture and all that they bring.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:56 (one month ago) link

We had a marmot trying to grab snacks from our backpack at Rocky Mountain National Park a couple years ago.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:57 (one month ago) link

In the forest near me there are black squirrels that screech like monkeys. Squirrels in New Jersey are gray and pretty much silent, so the first few times I heard this I was pretty unnerved.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 15:01 (one month ago) link

did you go to estes to see the elk did you see the marmots people getting so close to elk there is wild

― lag∞n, Tuesday, March 12, 2024 10:51 AM (seven minutes ago)

yeah definitely saw some people getting close to elk. the elk were overrunning the place, even some of the park rangers came out of the visitors center and were taking video on their phones, so i knew it was a special occasion

did see the marmots but it wasn't at rocky mountain

actually now that i'm thinking about it i was taking the shuttle back from bear lake when we passed an elk on the side of the ride. as we drove past it headbutted the side of the bus, i think i have video

, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 15:02 (one month ago) link

just uploaded it in 4k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6USFa7c1NE

it was bad, at other places where there were elk near the road people were stopping their cars and holding up traffic, getting out to photograph, bad!

, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 15:16 (one month ago) link

me after a few pints

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxo8X5uIWRE

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 15:25 (one month ago) link

Camping with friends in college was a lot of fun. Sometimes it was car camping, sometimes we'd hike our stuff in a little ways but nothing serious.

I have carried this love of camping on with my children, but it's a very, very different experience. At the mention of "camping" my tail starts to wag because it used to mean drinking too much and staying up too late and partying with close friends. Now it means packing an absurd amount of stuff to keep the family happy and comfortable and I'm constantly trying to keep them from tracking dirt into the tent and it's a whole fricking thing. The last time we went I convinced myself that it wasn't worth it anymore. If the kids beg to go camping we'll do it, but I'm not bringing it up.

I love experiencing nature but I really, really love my bed.

Cow_Art, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 15:38 (one month ago) link

we passed an elk on the side of the ride. as we drove past it headbutted the side of the bus, i think i have video

― 龜, Tuesday, March 12, 2024 11:02 AM (thirty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lmao this rules

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 15:40 (one month ago) link

Give me a few days in the Winds or Big Basin over a bed anytime.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 15:54 (one month ago) link

Years ago my friends and I were passing by (relatively speaking) Yellowstone in the winter, so we decided, what the heck. We detoured to the one open entrance and had the park more or less to ourselves, except for all the elk, who clearly had the same idea. They were everywhere, from the visitor center and otherwise empty parking lot on out. We basically ignored them while we walked around, kind of keeping our distance the best we could but not really avoiding them, because we couldn't. We figured, eh, they're like deer. When we got back to a computer or book or whatever we had at the time and looked it up, we learned, no, they are not like deer.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 15:57 (one month ago) link

I love that this is what the Musk thread has become

Big cats, moose, elk, other animals ... it still kind of is the musk thread ...

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 15:59 (one month ago) link

It's the "(Nothing But) Flowers" effect.

this counseler i had told me once "i don't go camping, i was homeless for 3 years, i'm done with living outside".

brimstead, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 16:59 (one month ago) link

fair

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 17:24 (one month ago) link

I love watching Vanlife videos and also car camping. Is it camping? It's definitely fun.

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 18:17 (one month ago) link

a dream of mine is to get a sprinter van camper conversion - sort of like a hipster rv. smaller than your typical RV, some of em come in 4x4 configurations, they look cool and good

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/57ef0117579fb34c2451c73b/1667317354542-96A73B5GHHCSZ3Q585DY/20221024-IMG_9753.jpg

, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 18:57 (one month ago) link

a more realistic one would be a honda element camper - they sell off the shelf conversion kits for these. be careful that nobody tries to steal your catalytic converter, tho!

https://www.freewaycamperkit.com/img/element-gal-1.jpg

, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 18:58 (one month ago) link

friends have a vw camper van not the classic model a newer one its pretty sweet

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 19:06 (one month ago) link

tho i drove it and did not love it felt very tippy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 19:07 (one month ago) link

The Honda Element aftermarket has stayed pretty warm due to the camper possibilities even though they stopped making them a long time back

I've seen some decent Ford Transit conversions and iirc at least one ilxor has experience in installing solar on conversions

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 19:09 (one month ago) link

龜,i like this huge nerd's videos about his van build https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=videos

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 19:17 (one month ago) link

apparently you can't link to a channel. here's the first video in the series. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B8tSMOO60M

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 19:18 (one month ago) link

ooh looks nice - subscribed

, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 19:42 (one month ago) link

Camping in Australia, you get to be kept awake by koalas feeling sexy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz7NEMUeqK4

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 21:11 (one month ago) link

I lived in a converted 14 foot UHaul box truck for four years, fwiw

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 21:14 (one month ago) link

one of the interesting things about vanlife videos lately is a lot of parts of the US have become (apparently) much more actively hostile towards people who try to sleep in their vehicles... would like to see a video about the no doubt constellation of many different groups who are resolutely against the vanlife concept.

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 22:38 (one month ago) link

you mean yuppies, NIMBYs, and frothing environmentalists who live in comfy mansions?

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 01:55 (one month ago) link

because there’s #vanlife and then there’s living in your car, truck, van, converted bus, whatever. the latter people are poor, and aren’t wanted around. the former hashtag types are overwhelmingly rich and can do whatever they want because they’re rich. none of my wealthy pals who have done #vanlife stuff were ever bothered by cops or neighbors— we were harassed constantly just for parking on a quiet, nearly abandoned street.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 01:57 (one month ago) link

property is theft man

... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 02:44 (one month ago) link

the vanlife folks on youtube who clearly have lots of money are who I am talking about though... they are now in fact being bothered by cops and neighbors

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 02:53 (one month ago) link

time for #houselife

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 02:55 (one month ago) link

Real Houselifes of ILX

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 03:31 (one month ago) link

just do the clarence thomas life (lol he doesn’t actually do that) and park at Walmart. I assume you need pretty good blinds because those parking lots are bright

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 03:45 (one month ago) link

vanlife account thats just pictures of walmart parking lots

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 03:47 (one month ago) link

I’d check it out

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 03:50 (one month ago) link

The best vanlife account out there, and one that's worth your time is Yagai No Moriko (Yt link) who's minivanlifeing it in the remote forests of Japan - one of the most fantastic places out there.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 06:58 (one month ago) link

property is theft man


fuck off man, we didn’t have anywhere else to live.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 11:34 (one month ago) link

that is a correct response imo, wasn’t tryna aim at u tabes

... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 13:24 (one month ago) link

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-larry-ellison-team-up-ai-farming-tool-starlink-2024-3

I work in what we'll call an adjacent field to this and this is just insanely dumb. Also, mask fully off now that Elon's collaborating with possibly the worst legacy SV asshole

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 15:54 (one month ago) link

ellison musk bro down never in doubt

https://danluu.com/elon-twitter-texts/#7

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 16:12 (one month ago) link

the mind geniuses of innovation valley

[2022-04-17] Elon: Any interest in participating in the Twitter deal?
Larry: Yes ... of course 👍
Elon: Cool
Elon: Roughly what dollar size? Not holding you to anything, but the deal is oversubscribed, so I have to reduce or kick out some participants.
Larry: A billion ... or whatever you recommend
Elon: Whatever works for you. I'd recommend maybe $2B or more. This has very high potential and I'd rather have you than anyone else.
Larry: I agree that it has huge potential... and it would be lots of fun
Elon: Absolutely:)
[2022-04-26] Larry: Since you think I should come in for at least $2B... I'm in for $2B 👍
Elon: Haha thankss:)

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 16:16 (one month ago) link

looooooooooooool

News from me…#TheDonLemonShow pic.twitter.com/PzlKuvkZtj

— Don Lemon (@donlemon) March 13, 2024

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 16:25 (one month ago) link

lmao how did he not know what the deal was

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 16:26 (one month ago) link

You forgot to tell us why he canceled you. Odd that you would neglect to mention that.

— Turkey Vulture (@Datura_species) March 13, 2024

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 16:27 (one month ago) link

Parag: Also: my email to company about AMA leaked already+ lots of leaks from internal slack messages: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/04/07/musk-twitter-employee-outcry/ -I think there is a large silent majority that is excited about you bring on the board, so this isn't representative. Happy to talk about it-none of this is a surprise.
Elon: Seedy
Elon: *awesome (damn autocorrect!)

you were right first time AC

nashwan, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 16:38 (one month ago) link

lol at Don Lemon not recognizing the true floor of non-objective subservience.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 16:43 (one month ago) link

reading Musk's relationship wih Parag collapse in just days is gold

nashwan, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 16:44 (one month ago) link

Elon: Haha awesome
Elon: Maybe Airbnb's algorithm thinks you love tractors and donkeys (who doesn't!)

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 17:25 (one month ago) link

lol

Elon Musk and Don Lemon are escalating towards what could be a bitter contract dispute after X’s owner abruptly terminated its agreement to broadcast a show hosted by Lemon — but Lemon does not have a signed contract.

https://www.semafor.com/article/03/13/2024/don-lemons-deal-with-elon-musks-collapses-over-interview

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 22:54 (one month ago) link

breach of promise!

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 23:00 (one month ago) link

yeah i mean he prob has some sort case but still does not come off as being very savvy here

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 23:02 (one month ago) link

"We pinky swore!"

nickn, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 23:05 (one month ago) link

dealing with elon better to get cash up front

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 23:06 (one month ago) link

so the rocket got up to space this time but not back (in one piece)

i feel like back will be the dealbreaker for the moonfarers

mark s, Thursday, 14 March 2024 19:01 (one month ago) link

fuck the video of the boosters landing on the moored boats is almost enough to sell ME on elmo’s model, but then i think of the myriad costs and his total non-responsibility for it and, “whoo, glad that passed.”

yes. adj myriad. the way i werz taught it lol. 🧐

... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Thursday, 14 March 2024 19:12 (one month ago) link

pretty cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX1LTw48ymQ

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 14 March 2024 20:04 (one month ago) link

brought to you by starlink™️

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 March 2024 20:27 (one month ago) link

looking terrific nearly all the way down!

mark s, Thursday, 14 March 2024 20:30 (one month ago) link

lol those two shitheel mouthpieces with their heatshields

... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Thursday, 14 March 2024 23:37 (one month ago) link

baller

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 15 March 2024 17:13 (one month ago) link

some great re-entry footage there tbf, the superheated plasma footage looks cool and it seems a feat the cameras were still working at that stage. lol, shame the attitude control was seemingly non existent and it looked like heat shield tiles were falling off all over the shop. total cowboy operation.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 15 March 2024 17:18 (one month ago) link

new mario kart looks sick xxp

lag∞n, Friday, 15 March 2024 17:41 (one month ago) link

NASA is investing about $4 billion into the starlink system

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/03/14/spacex-starship-launch-live/

follow the money bayybee

... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Friday, 15 March 2024 18:51 (one month ago) link

What's crazy is these videos of the cybertruck failing at doing basic truck stuff are always posted by fans of the car that think they're showing off pic.twitter.com/6IKTuhe2af

— Wild Geerters (@steinkobbe) March 18, 2024

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 March 2024 17:09 (one month ago) link

"just made a run to Target and back without a wheel falling off - let's see you try that losers!"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 March 2024 17:11 (one month ago) link

these guys are in a tough spot cause they want clout and cyber truck fails get numbers, also the cyber truck fails a lot

lag∞n, Monday, 18 March 2024 17:14 (one month ago) link

yesterday I saw my first cybertruck in the wild. the owner had painted it matte black. it was amazingly ugly and surprisingly small. I could probably take whatever its maximum load is, fit it in my 27 year old Subaru station wagon, then take it anywhere the cybertruck could go.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 18 March 2024 17:19 (one month ago) link

The Cybertruck looks like it will be followed by a bunch of magnets

President Keyes, Monday, 18 March 2024 17:32 (one month ago) link

dont think twitters doing too good

Mike Masnick @mmasnick.bsky.social
Lol. Listening to Elon Musk on a Twitter Spaces with Missouri's AG, Elon just suggested that activists calling on advertisers to stop advertising on Twitter "might be a RICO violation"

https://bsky.app/profile/mmasnick.bsky.social/post/3knz4mzi4u32a

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 01:07 (one month ago) link

elon’s entire shtick is “this is a thing I heard of”

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 03:41 (one month ago) link

imagining Elon in a conference about biology hearing “enzymes” and he says something about considering binding sites and people nod

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 03:43 (one month ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GI9POKYXgAAyuCw?format=jpg&name=large

, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 14:12 (one month ago) link

haa

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 14:14 (one month ago) link

i am more impressed with the diligence and care that into that wrap job than i have been with cybotruck so-- Exceeds Expectations

... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 14:19 (one month ago) link

Unfortunately for Don Lemon, I don't know if what X has can legally be considered "shows."

Chris L, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 14:20 (one month ago) link

xp otoh "cold cuts for a hot planet"

... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 14:22 (one month ago) link

i love to be reminded of global warming when im trying to get a sandwich

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 14:24 (one month ago) link

what's colder than cold cuts

... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 14:26 (one month ago) link

Funky Cold Medina?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 14:30 (one month ago) link

PRIME ROOTS ... catering the climate apocalypse your way

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 14:43 (one month ago) link

also "prime roots" what i could see it for a vegan place maybe like instead of a cut its a root which is a plant, starting to think the place that dressed their cyber truck up as a sandwich doesnt have the clearest messaging

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 14:47 (one month ago) link

its ironic cause people did like musk then he bought twitter and now they dont

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 17:20 (one month ago) link

Yeah, welcome to social media, Elon.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 17:32 (one month ago) link

he was genuinely surprised to get booed at that chappelle show

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 17:48 (one month ago) link

he thought people loved him when he really just had good pr

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 17:49 (one month ago) link

cannot imagine how much that level of success fucks with your head, being the third biggest boat dealer in the greater wilmington area absolutely drives people insane

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 17:51 (one month ago) link

I would probably become a complete monster but I'd like to think I'd at least try to keep a low profile

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 17:56 (one month ago) link

Most billionaires do! There are something like 750 billionaires in the US, but I can only name a couple, and the fact that they are generally assholes may be why I can name them.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:00 (one month ago) link

if i was a billionaire i would be the good one :)

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:01 (one month ago) link

i am the good one

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:03 (one month ago) link

were in a billionaire fight now

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:04 (one month ago) link

MMA cage match.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:05 (one month ago) link

no billionare fights are just sweating in a chair

he/him hoo-hah (map), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:08 (one month ago) link

Mother May I cage match

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:08 (one month ago) link

spreading rumors on nantucket

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:11 (one month ago) link

its ironic cause people did like musk then he bought twitter and now they dont

― lag∞n, Tuesday, March 19, 2024 12:20 PM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he's definitely much more disliked now but his real overt villain arc began with the Thai cave rescue thing

does seem to be a thing with rich/famous rightwing people where they just go fully mask off after getting publicly humiliated. like Trump after Obama roasted him, Chappelle after he was told the trans stuff was way more mean than funny, Aaron Rodgers after trying to trick the public about his vaccination status, hell even the Dilbert guy once he was caught sockpuppeting. none of 'em are capable of pulling back either, you just remain a miserable lump of garbage your whole life

frogbs, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:13 (one month ago) link

Hey, when they're right, they're right, right?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:14 (one month ago) link

the rodgers one is best to me cause he destroyed his excellent pr by going on podcasts, its somehow funnier if its podcasts, just dont go on there

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:16 (one month ago) link

In the master race, Elon is driving a seriously underpowered vehicle.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:26 (one month ago) link

its also funny because there were a number of anti vaxx athletes out there including some fellow starting QBs and nobody remembers who any of them were (except Kyrie lol), in fact it's almost an understandable position for them, like I'm in peak physical shape do I really need this? instead Rodgers goes "uhhh yeah I'm immunized" talking about some insane herbal treatment he was doing, got caught lying and just immediately became *this guy*

frogbs, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:37 (one month ago) link

yeah he couldve even stopped then and salvaged his image but he kept going on podcasts and saying increasingly dumb bad things

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:40 (one month ago) link

he was considered a smart interesting guy, the alt qb, but it turned out he was a total effin idiot, which we found out because of podcasts

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:41 (one month ago) link

hes been on so many podcasts

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:42 (one month ago) link

its also funny because there were a number of anti vaxx athletes out there including some fellow starting QBs and nobody remembers who any of them were (except Kyrie lol), in fact it's almost an understandable position for them, like I'm in peak physical shape do I really need this? instead Rodgers goes "uhhh yeah I'm immunized" talking about some insane herbal treatment he was doing, got caught lying and just immediately became *this guy*

― frogbs, Tuesday, March 19, 2024 1:37 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Kirk Cousins didn't get vaccinated presumably for weirdo Christian reasons and everyone forgot cuz he just kept up his aw shuck routine and just kept saying it's a private medical decision and I respect everyone's rights to make those decisions blah blah blah

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:44 (one month ago) link

im sure a bunch of athletes just kept it secret which is obvs the best choice if you can get away with it, kyrie was only outed cause of a ny workplace rule

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:48 (one month ago) link

It was a bad sign when he wanted to be the jeopardy host.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:50 (one month ago) link

ha forgot about that

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:51 (one month ago) link

iirc that was during a contract negotiation? like he was trying to scare the Packers into thinking he was just gonna be the next host of Jeopardy instead of playing footback...frogbs correct me if i'm wrong

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:53 (one month ago) link

it was indeed during negotiations but I don't think there was any risk of him actually quitting football. I think he just wanted to do it once. he wasn't terrible at it either

frogbs, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:55 (one month ago) link

for me the bad sign is when these stories started coming out about him being a diva on the Packers and mysteriously shutting his entire family out of his life and he responded to it all by just saying "oh they're all just jealous haters". outside of Bears fans Rodgers didn't really have haters back then. he sure as hell has 'em now though

frogbs, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:57 (one month ago) link

feel the signs he was a jerk were always there, that look he has when he's pissed that teammates or coaches have let him down (again), always got a bad vibe.

bulb after bulb, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 19:00 (one month ago) link

apparently even the conspiracy nut stuff had leaked out to people in the know but i dont follow football closely so i had no idea just got the aaron rogers is smart and good storyline

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 19:02 (one month ago) link

xp you can get away with that when you've won a championship and are taking your team to the playoffs every year, but yeah it comes off a lot differently when you're not playing well and even Dan Orvlosky is starting to question why you're just throwing to the same 2 guys over and over.

frogbs, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 19:08 (one month ago) link

also its hilarious how thoroughly he trashed his legacy and public perception with this, like whenever he's brought up people now think of the conspiracy wacko first and the football player second. its crazy because he's still in the league and it really wasn't all that long ago he won back to back MVPs. I mean he isn't Joe Flacco or Matt Ryan, he's arguably the best regular season QB ever and now he's just permanently known as "oh this fuckin guy". could've been avoided but I guess the allure of the podcast was just too much for him to handle

frogbs, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 22:26 (one month ago) link

yeah an alltimer easy, thrown away for podcasts

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 22:34 (one month ago) link

It's funny because almost every quarterback is a fucking idiot racist fascist or worse but at least they do it in the traditional stylee

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 22:51 (one month ago) link

being a celebrity conspiracy guy is funny cause no one wants to listen to conspiracy guys but if youre a celeb they will listen to you but once they hear what you have to say theyll hate it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 22:55 (one month ago) link

kyrie, same sitch

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 22:56 (one month ago) link

He still alive?

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 00:37 (one month ago) link

yes he hit an amazing buzzer beater the other night

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 00:39 (one month ago) link

a bunch of articles have just floated by about Larry Ellison being just as much of a shithead doing many of the same things as Elon, some worse, but people don’t care because he’s not tweeting.
buying 90% of a hawaiian island and wrecking it for the inhabitants he seems to be trying to force into indentured servitude, but he doesn’t tweet about it. bill gates used to draw big heat but mostly because everyone had to use windows

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 00:40 (one month ago) link

elons in a tough spot cause his celebrity powers his businesses but he fucked it all up

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 00:43 (one month ago) link

A self driving @Tesla drove straight into my parked car in a residential area and Tesla Insurance has no way to directly contact them so I am stuck with no car and a Tesla adjuster not returning any calls for nearly a week. @elonmusk your cars, app and insurance suck.

— Drunk Uncle (@DrunkUncleATX) March 19, 2024

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 01:00 (one month ago) link

Kyrie is definitely similar but I think he’s more of a genuine weirdo whereas Rodgers always has to be the smartest person in the room

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 01:37 (one month ago) link

oh no

I hope the curb is okay

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 11:21 (one month ago) link

My only regret is he wasn't giving Roger Stone a lift at the time.

I guess Tesla is good now.

lol DJP

the not wearing seatbelts is the cherry on top

I bet they had those Punisher seatbelt blanks they sell so macho guys who don't want to wear a belt can stop the car from beeping

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 11:40 (one month ago) link

ums, I had gone my entire life not knowing such a thing existed and you ruined it.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 11:53 (one month ago) link

I'm pretty sure the vaccine killed them

President Keyes, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 13:52 (one month ago) link

The vaccine is a good shot.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 13:56 (one month ago) link

https://www.threads.net/@amescoestate/post/C4wE3ivPoMb/?xmt=AQGzV2B9frzfP54mh0vYWWPvRpMk5-YhouSiax-rIK_lkA

love to fix my brand new cybertruck with duct tape ($300 option at dealer)

, Thursday, 21 March 2024 16:30 (one month ago) link

lmao

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 March 2024 16:33 (one month ago) link

sorry PBKR! had to share the horror I guess

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 March 2024 16:33 (one month ago) link

Toxicology reports came back on Angela Chao who drowned on her 900 acre ranch after reversing her $TSLA into a lake (after a Pitbull concert) and her BAC was 0.233 (vs TX legal limit 0.08), Elon must be elated it wasn't a vehicle error.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 21 March 2024 16:47 (one month ago) link

whoops!

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 21 March 2024 18:27 (one month ago) link

That’s a lot of alcohol. Sad!

I still haven’t seen a cybertruck in the wild and am ok with that

tobo73, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:40 (one month ago) link

failed to meet reserve https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3RyYX4Nx/2024-tesla-cybertruck-foundation-series

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 23 March 2024 02:24 (one month ago) link

no way all those preorders turn into orders.
the preorder deposit was $100.

formerly abanana (dat), Saturday, 23 March 2024 07:57 (one month ago) link

Saw my first cyber truck in the wild last night. Wow! Bright red.

tobo73, Sunday, 24 March 2024 18:34 (one month ago) link

it's crazy how quickly the Tesla became the douche bag's car of choice

budo jeru, Sunday, 24 March 2024 19:58 (one month ago) link

Saw my first cyber truck in the wild last night. Wow! Bright red.

I thought they only came in stainless steel. (Until I got to Montana, I thought Tesla cars only came in white, but I've seen blue and red ones around here.)

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Sunday, 24 March 2024 20:32 (one month ago) link

you can get an aftermarket vinyl wrap put on there, i seen a black one online

lag∞n, Sunday, 24 March 2024 21:08 (one month ago) link

they come in stainless streel and in italian hoagie

, Sunday, 24 March 2024 22:42 (one month ago) link

White was for several years the only Tesla color that wasn't $1,000-$2,500 extra cost which made it more popular. Black was originally the one no-extra-cost color; now it appears that grey is.

Lee626, Sunday, 24 March 2024 23:12 (one month ago) link

it's not the reason, but it'd be funny if the unfinished look was meant to be a prompt for people to wrap or paint their own vehicles because Elon refuses to let them do an interesting color on the other models

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 25 March 2024 15:35 (one month ago) link

https://bondangle.substack.com/p/tesla-q1-trends-rockslide

$TSLA fundamentals getting worse, tbd if the stock price will continue to reflect that

, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:22 (four weeks ago) link

whats it say

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:28 (four weeks ago) link

i dunno i just read the first graf above the paywall cuz i'm not a subscriber but the first graf sounds bad

, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:35 (four weeks ago) link

lol it does sound bad

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:41 (four weeks ago) link

I mean you have to go back to pre-pandemic to find a time when people were actually excited about Tesla, all they've done since are self-driving features which don't work and the dumbest looking truck in the history of trucks

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:42 (four weeks ago) link

previous article linked there (from 1/26/24) isn't behind paywall

bulb after bulb, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:49 (four weeks ago) link

If you reuse the truss steel that fell, it could be functioning in 3 to 6 months.

The repair should be put to commercial bid with a massive incentive for early and safe completion.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 30, 2024

lag∞n, Saturday, 30 March 2024 18:01 (three weeks ago) link

we should all heed the thoughts of such a gifted engineer

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 30 March 2024 18:19 (three weeks ago) link

Such a grifted engineer

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 30 March 2024 18:20 (three weeks ago) link

i was the actual guy— the guy— who yelled freebird at skynerd. i was 6.

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Saturday, 30 March 2024 20:03 (three weeks ago) link

Cybertruck drives off lot, immediately breaks with critical steering issue pic.twitter.com/OtOy7Ttysd

— Elai (@elaifresh) April 1, 2024

lol can you imagine trying to navigate this error screen on a highway

, Monday, 1 April 2024 21:20 (three weeks ago) link

awful stuff

lag∞n, Monday, 1 April 2024 21:30 (three weeks ago) link

What are you talking about, everyone knows that looking at your phone while you're driving is only dangerous because the screens are so small. This solves the problem by making the screen the size of a small TV, if you can't easily read that wall of text while you're driving, maybe get better glasses, grandpa.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 April 2024 21:33 (three weeks ago) link

Bathtub curve. Failures tend to occur either right away or much later on. It’s under warranty, they’ll fix it. I’ve owned a non-Tesla that drove off the lot with a critical drivability issue.

— CakeLasers (@CakeLasers) April 1, 2024

lag∞n, Monday, 1 April 2024 21:40 (three weeks ago) link

skill issue

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 1 April 2024 22:54 (three weeks ago) link

Warranty – also anecdotal

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Monday, 1 April 2024 22:58 (three weeks ago) link

GETTING WORSE!!! HELP MEEEEE WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY CYBERTRUCK????? 😭😭😭 @wmorrill3 @elonmusk @Tesla @cybertruck pic.twitter.com/I7bFRUMRtA

— Lamar MK (@LamarMK) March 30, 2024

another bad cybertruck steering vid

cybertruck apparently uses a variable steering ratio tech i wonder if that's got something to do with it

, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 13:26 (three weeks ago) link

i wouldve just bought a nice car instead

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 13:28 (three weeks ago) link

Or a nice computer.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 13:29 (three weeks ago) link

i would just run linux on a ten year old laptop jk im a mac user

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 13:45 (three weeks ago) link

uh oh

Tesla Inc. suffered its first year-over-year sales drop since the early days of the Covid pandemic.

Tesla handed over 386,810 vehicles in the first three months of 2024, the company said in a statement Tuesday. That fell well short of analysts’ average estimate for 449,080 deliveries. The stock fell 7% in early New York trading.

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 13:51 (three weeks ago) link

is that good

, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:07 (three weeks ago) link

hell id be happy to sell one car gotta start somewhere you know

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:37 (three weeks ago) link

have to wonder if his personal popularity is finally having an impact. that or the fact they're selling the same shitty cars they designed in 2017. this is not happening to other car companies iiuc.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:45 (three weeks ago) link

some marketing company saying as much fwiw

According to a recent survey by corporate reputation management platform Caliber, as first reported by Reuters, the carmaker's reputation is plunging in part due to Musk's off-putting and problematic behavior, putting off potential buyers.

https://futurism.com/the-byte/buyers-avoiding-teslas-elon-musk-toxic

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:52 (three weeks ago) link

Look, I'm not trying to get @GROK (pronounced GROKE) fired, but it's definitely gone WOKE and is now calling @elonmusk a bigot and a racist for his attacks on DEI.

A story in four acts

No wonder Musk hates AI so much, eh @ChatGPTapp, @GoogleAI? pic.twitter.com/E6wPDFutsB

— Pastor Ben (@BenjaminPDixon) April 3, 2024

President Keyes, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 10:53 (three weeks ago) link

not sure if it was this thread it was mentioned on, but the guy calling in to Infowars turned out not to be Musk, and was probably doing an impersonation.

adam t. (abanana), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 13:56 (three weeks ago) link

“Elon’s directive is to go all in on robotaxi,” that person said.

https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/6/68/TFU08-toy_Overcharge.jpg

President Keyes, Friday, 5 April 2024 15:28 (two weeks ago) link

waymos are pretty cool. but when you look at a waymo and you look at a tesla there’s a pretty big tech gap.

, Friday, 5 April 2024 15:41 (two weeks ago) link

Maybe this genius disruptor should just try *raising* prices on everything, see how that works.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 April 2024 15:42 (two weeks ago) link

you look at a waymo and the two people monitoring the driving from a remote location look back at you

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 5 April 2024 16:04 (two weeks ago) link

Actual footage of Waymo in operation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzUtXMNizVo

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 April 2024 16:15 (two weeks ago) link

given the fash shit he's been posting on his shitty website recently I cannot wait for this dickhole to shart his way out of business. at least delorean made a cool-looking car and wasn't a nazi fuck.

If he really wanted to kill "woke" he would introduce a new car called the Tesla Woke.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 April 2024 17:10 (two weeks ago) link

you look at a waymo and the two people monitoring the driving from a remote location look back at you

― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, April 5, 2024 12:04 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

lmao

lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2024 17:37 (two weeks ago) link

Robotaxi unveil on 8/8

hmm well played sir epic 8/8 haha

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 6 April 2024 02:06 (two weeks ago) link

plenty of time to invent the robotaxi

lag∞n, Saturday, 6 April 2024 02:09 (two weeks ago) link

Will the robotaxi dance like the Charleston like his “android” announcement?

Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 6 April 2024 03:04 (two weeks ago) link

Wait, is "Exiting and re-entering vehicle may restore operation" actually a real thing lol

groovypanda, Saturday, 6 April 2024 20:52 (two weeks ago) link

Kind of gives a new take on blue screen of death.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Saturday, 6 April 2024 20:58 (two weeks ago) link

exit and re-enter, when come back bring dust-cloth

mark s, Saturday, 6 April 2024 21:13 (two weeks ago) link

Brings new meaning to the word "crash." Or I suppose, in this case, potentially brings back the old meaning.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 6 April 2024 21:25 (two weeks ago) link

lol @ exiting and re-entering the vehicle, surely the "turn the router off and then on" of vehicle repair.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Sunday, 7 April 2024 03:15 (two weeks ago) link

Saw a Cybertruck in the wild today. Well, not "the wild": downtown Kalispell, MT, pulling out of a Starbucks drive-thru. It really does look silly and fake in person, like a bad movie prop, and every dimensional plane (height, length) seems off somehow. The driver, a bro in his mid-thirties, I'd guess, saw my wife and me observing him and smiled sarcastically and waved. We nodded back.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Sunday, 7 April 2024 16:52 (two weeks ago) link

I saw my first one locally the other day too. Yup, looked dumb.

https://pbfcomics.com/comics/disassemble/

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 8 April 2024 16:41 (two weeks ago) link

During his deposition, Musk admitted he has a “limited understanding” of the lawsuit against him, said he thought Brody’s attorney was the one suing him, and revealed he did no research in determining whether Brody was involved in the brawl after seeing the accusations on X.

Musk also made broader admissions about his failures with X — which has plummeted in value since his takeover in 2022 — saying he “may have done more to financially impair” the social media site than help it. Musk also confirmed that he once used a burner account on X seemingly to role-play as his toddler son.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-musk-didnt-want-his-latest-deposition-released-here-it-is_n_66133d2ce4b0d81853f9a766

lag∞n, Monday, 8 April 2024 18:09 (two weeks ago) link

he shd stick to role-playing as his toddler self

mark s, Monday, 8 April 2024 18:13 (two weeks ago) link

I read through part of that transcript and felt like I aged several years. It’s just so tiring

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 8 April 2024 21:40 (two weeks ago) link

lol even he says "formerly known as Twitter"

visiting, Monday, 8 April 2024 22:53 (two weeks ago) link

I mean, he's wrong!

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 8 April 2024 23:07 (two weeks ago) link

the ending where his lawyer is like “yeah this isn’t going to be released, right?” and the plaintiff’s attorney is explaining you need to set up the protective order BEFORE the deposition is great

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 8 April 2024 23:44 (two weeks ago) link

yeah that's as good as it gets for law stuff

, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 01:28 (two weeks ago) link

Musk also confirmed that he once used a burner account on X seemingly to role-play as his toddler son.

Drove down the block, stashed the burner in the bushes
Stepped to nursery with the Huggies for the tushes

President Keyes, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 01:31 (two weeks ago) link

and revealed he did no research in determining whether Brody was involved in the brawl after seeing the accusations on X

Not surprising, but that is not good when you are trying to defend a defamation claim.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 01:42 (two weeks ago) link

xp 10/10

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 02:41 (two weeks ago) link

except "drove part way down the block, system fault required me to exit the vehicle, stashed the burner in the bushes"

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 02:42 (two weeks ago) link

tweets from elon’s burner account, a thread: pic.twitter.com/82Y0Kx1QJ5

— Best of Dying Twiter (@bestofdyingtwit) April 25, 2023

it starts like someone trying to be cute with a test account but gets real weird and cringey fast

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 03:01 (two weeks ago) link

“People are attacked all the time in the media, online media, social media, but it is rare that that actually has a meaningful negative impact on their life,” Musk testified.

This coming from the giant man-baby who shut a guys account down for posting about where his planes would land because he said it was a *threat to his family*!!!!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 04:38 (two weeks ago) link

Well yeah - he means "it is rare that that actually has a meaningful negative impact on me, the only verifiable human"

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 06:32 (two weeks ago) link

wow @ this exchange

Elon is being deposed in a lawsuit saying he made slanderous claims about someone he doesn't know, and immediately does the same thing to the lawyer deposing him pic.twitter.com/zrq7VfERlw

— evan loves worf (@esjesjesj) April 9, 2024

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 15:46 (two weeks ago) link

Can't Elon just use the "I was high when I said that" defense

President Keyes, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 15:49 (two weeks ago) link

I don't think it can be understated how often you're talking to lawyers for some reason or another when you're involved in that many binding legal entities (corporations, boards, whatever else) and despite it being a commonplace thing, Elon's immediate thought is "lawyers only exist to take my money" regardless whether it's someone else's or his own

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 15:51 (two weeks ago) link

Elon's statements there aren't slanderous, they're just dumb.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 15:52 (two weeks ago) link

stupid sexy slanders!

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 15:56 (two weeks ago) link

He doesn't think he harmed Ben Brody despite knowing nothing about him because social media rarely leads to people being harmed. Just shocking arrogance.

Thr case is weaker than the Alex Jones case as Musk's comment was somewhat couched. But the case will bring up more embarrassing material and he might settle to avoid that.

Also the lawyer he brought wasn't admitted pro hac vice so I don't know if his objections will have any weight in court. Brody filed a motion against Spiro today.

adam t. (abanana), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 22:01 (two weeks ago) link

hes only asking for a million dollars musk should just give it to him sorry bout that mate

lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 22:03 (two weeks ago) link

Mr. Tesla

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 18:56 (two weeks ago) link

mr tesla, the king of space x

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 18:58 (two weeks ago) link

I always see those emojis as hamburgers

President Keyes, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 19:15 (two weeks ago) link

can't believe that's a real one, I remember seeing it and thinking someone faked it. fucking yikes

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 20:18 (two weeks ago) link

But isn't it supposed to be Elon's kid tweeting? Why not "I hate you Mom. Why did you leave Mr. Jackpots? Helllllllllll-ooooooooooooo."

President Keyes, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 20:22 (two weeks ago) link

its fake sorry https://bsky.app/profile/fullslack.bsky.social/post/3kpsvckl7vr2f

it’s him pic.twitter.com/E0YPvf1Ies

— full slack (@full_slack) April 25, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 11 April 2024 00:06 (two weeks ago) link

The end of 2020 was drawing near, and Andrea Turley, a 36-year-old self-employed hairdresser, had to figure out how to afford gifts not only for her two daughters’ birthdays but also for Christmas. She came up with a solution: a job working on the floor of Tesla’s auto manufacturing facility in Fremont, California. It paid about $20 an hour.

Turley’s grandparents had worked at the same plant when it made cars for General Motors. She knew what working on an assembly line would entail and hoped to stay; her grandparents had worked there for decades. “I don’t have a problem with doing hard labor,” she told me.

“The problem was the sexual harassment. It was the racism,” she said. “It’s the constant disrespect.”

On her second day of training, Turley noticed the phrase “Black bitches need to go home” written on the bathroom walls. Once she started working on the line, she heard her white male lead—the person who supervised her on the floor—use the N-word and other racial slurs like “coon,” according to a legal complaint she filed later. He also frequently used the words “bitch” and “cunt.” He “used just about every awful and offensive word I can think of,” Turley said in the filing. It wasn’t just him; other white coworkers also often used the N-word around her and her fellow Black coworkers. She frequently saw the word “bitch” written on the bathroom walls alongside the N-word and “KKK.”

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/tesla-racism-sexual-harassment/

Number None, Friday, 12 April 2024 09:27 (one week ago) link

Jesus fucking Christ.

What a rotten company, starting from the top

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 12 April 2024 16:36 (one week ago) link

This video is hilarious, even if you don't speak Russian. Some Russian rapper is driving around L.A. in his Cybertruck and just getting angrier and angrier about the shitty quality of basically everything:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6Nmb7UTAjQ

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Saturday, 13 April 2024 20:19 (one week ago) link

you can get some pretty bad auto generated translated captions on there if you want fyi

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 April 2024 20:22 (one week ago) link

Lmao

How the fuck are these things legally on the road pic.twitter.com/iqDKDVHpRm

— Eoin Higgins (@EoinHiggins_) April 14, 2024

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 14 April 2024 21:37 (one week ago) link

jesus christ

lag∞n, Sunday, 14 April 2024 21:45 (one week ago) link

it's a legit question in general, how are any of these cars on the road? can I just legally make a car and sell it without going through any sort of oversight?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 April 2024 22:16 (one week ago) link

This shit would be a lot funnier if the Cybertrucks weren't driving around on the same roads as the rest of us.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Sunday, 14 April 2024 22:20 (one week ago) link

what are they doing over there that they cant even get the break pedal to stay in place

lag∞n, Sunday, 14 April 2024 22:23 (one week ago) link

that pedal looks like a spatula

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 April 2024 22:25 (one week ago) link

“It’s not an ar-15 it’s a …” in this case the accelerator lol

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Sunday, 14 April 2024 22:36 (one week ago) link

The federal government’s safety regulators are captured by industry so anything goes man, caveat emptor!

If this were the 1950s though Elon would be in the same hot water for fraudsters and snake oil salesmen as Wilhelm Reich and L. Ron Hubbard.

all cybertruck deliveries reportedly halted due to the accelerator issue it seems like

, Monday, 15 April 2024 01:09 (one week ago) link

recall (pun intended) that there was a massive toyota recall in the aughts due to a similar issue. really fucked with toyota's image as ol' reliable https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%932011_Toyota_vehicle_recalls

i remember this because we had a corolla at the time

, Monday, 15 April 2024 01:09 (one week ago) link

gotta put some more glue on there

lag∞n, Monday, 15 April 2024 01:12 (one week ago) link

hes like, imitating poses from Marvel movies. its really embarrassing

frogbs, Monday, 15 April 2024 02:43 (one week ago) link

I mean, I dunno. maybe it wouldn't be embarrassing if someone cool was doing it. I just fuckin hate this guy so much

frogbs, Monday, 15 April 2024 02:43 (one week ago) link

He knows enough to keep smiling. That much has been dinned into him. The poses he strikes are silly and surely he could be coached better on this, but it's low stakes for him and he doesn't care enough to be good at it. Hard for me to care much either. He's an ass in so many other, more important ways that this particular asininity is trivial.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 15 April 2024 02:56 (one week ago) link

nah I think it's still a kinda important window into his mind, like the way he's just thinking epic memeface all the time no matter the situation. the fact that he wants to be the real life Doge meme informs most of his decisions first and foremost and has actually became a very good case study in how that turns you into a Nazi

frogbs, Monday, 15 April 2024 03:09 (one week ago) link

he looks like a K'd up incel in an ill-fitting suit

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Monday, 15 April 2024 03:13 (one week ago) link

Musk and Marvel movies occupy exactly the same cognitive space for me. I don’t think it’s that much of an insult to either since each is the shittest thing possible.

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 15 April 2024 09:15 (one week ago) link

Musk is a racist transphobe who's squandering his cash to promote fascism and bring about a second Trump reich. I can understand your not enjoying these movies made for children but I don't really think they're equivalent.

he was probably like this when he just had daddy's millions but

Being a billionaire must be insane. You can buy new teeth, new skin. All your chairs cost 20,000 dollars and weigh 2,000 pounds. Your life is just a series of your own preferences. In terms of cognitive impairment it's probably like being kicked in the head by a horse every day

— Thing Bad (@Merman_Melville) January 24, 2019

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 15 April 2024 09:19 (one week ago) link

Actually I guess we know he was exactly this lame pre-billions, the McLaren story with Peter Thiel, his obsession x.com, etc..

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 15 April 2024 09:21 (one week ago) link

obsession w/

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 15 April 2024 09:22 (one week ago) link

Musk and Marvel movies occupy exactly the same cognitive space for me. I don’t think it’s that much of an insult to either since each is the shittest thing possible.

otm

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 15 April 2024 09:34 (one week ago) link

Uh oh

Big news to start the morning via my BN colleagues @danahull @EdLudlow: @Tesla to cut workforce by 10% globally. Check out the piece 👇🏻 https://t.co/fHs4qqeeI9

— Corey Cantor🌕 (@CoreyBCantor) April 15, 2024

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 15 April 2024 11:31 (one week ago) link

"There is nothing I hate more, but it must be done.”

Imagine how terrible the situation must be there for someone to successfully convince Musk to do anything sensible.

Musk: Now is the perfect time to launch our self-flying car!
Exec: Elon, that was just a picture one of your kids doodled.
Musk: My child is a genius, like me. Start production now!
Exec: But Elon, there is no product.
Musk: Well, sell down-payments on my future flying car, let the people reserve one. How long until we can get one operational?
Exec: Back of the envelope ... 20 years?
Musk: Let's aim for 2026! How much will it cost?
Exec: We would need to hire thousands of people, and develop technology that does not exist yet.
Musk: Great, this is what I do! How much will that cost?
Exec: Magnitudes more than what we have. We can't even offload these Cybertrucks.
Musk: Hmm. What if we made the Cybertruck fly?
Exec: We just can't do that.
Musk: You're fired. You!
Exec 2: Me?
Musk: Can we make a flying Cybertruck?
Exec 2: Yes?
Musk: That is the can-do attitude we need! You get a big raise. I will transfer you novelty crypto.
Exec 2: I was looking at the books, Elon. And we're kind of in the red.
Musk: Red is cool!
Exec 2: Um, no, Elon, red is not cool. Black is cool.
Elon: That sounds woke. You're fired. Who else is here to say yes. Actually, never mind, fire 10% of everyone. We need to cut costs. And start work on the flying Cybertruck now!!!! And make it run on crypto! And have it emit fart sounds from the clouds! And use a stronger glue on the parts this time. And make it cost half as much, but make twice as much money. And send it to Mars! And make it submersible. But also AI, like KITT. And have it solve crimes, too. Not mine, but other crimes. Woke crimes. And do it now!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 April 2024 12:55 (one week ago) link

In Tesla news today - the Cybertruck's accelerator pedal falls off and gets stuck
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/04/tesla-stops-cybertruck-deliveries-accelerator-pedal-may-be-to-blame/

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 15 April 2024 19:28 (one week ago) link

thankfully they haven't sold that many so the recall will be easy to deal with

, Monday, 15 April 2024 19:36 (one week ago) link

Elon: Can't we just deliver this fix via software?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 15 April 2024 19:38 (one week ago) link

a good gas pedal that doesnt fly off your foot while youre driving

lag∞n, Monday, 15 April 2024 19:48 (one week ago) link

just stick it back on with some gum

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Monday, 15 April 2024 19:51 (one week ago) link

funny thing about quoting the ITYSL sketch is that steering wheels have fallen off of Teslas too

frogbs, Monday, 15 April 2024 19:56 (one week ago) link

also the fact that Elon truly has no good car ideas

frogbs, Monday, 15 April 2024 19:57 (one week ago) link

drive them through tunnels isn't a good idea?

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Monday, 15 April 2024 19:58 (one week ago) link

The sliding gas pedal is extra dumb on the Cybertruck - if any vehicle's design would justify some exposed rivets and bolts it's that monstrosity.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 15 April 2024 21:39 (one week ago) link

Tesla's senior vice president of powertrain and energy engineering, Drew Baglino, is leaving after 18 years at the auto-maker, he said in a post on social media site X on Monday. Tesla's vice president of public policy and business development, Rohan Patel, has also left the carmaker, according to a post on X by a Bloomberg News reporter.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 April 2024 22:20 (one week ago) link

It's almost like Elon put the whole Tesla Corporation into the cargo bed of a cybertruck and then decided to test his claims about the cybertruck's amphibious abilities.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 15 April 2024 22:41 (one week ago) link

>Image of cybertruck jumping off canyon cliff thelma and louse style<

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Monday, 15 April 2024 22:57 (one week ago) link

I always wonder about guys like this how much *actual* money they have, like not company stock or corporate valuations but money in the bank or easily accessible low risk funds, blue chip stocks etc

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 00:53 (one week ago) link

Isn’t Elon basically homeless

Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 01:17 (one week ago) link

Lives in a Cybertruck down by the river, IIRC.

I always wonder about guys like this how much *actual* money they have

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, April 15, 2024 8:53 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

they have credit lines

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 01:27 (one week ago) link

i don't understand money stuff really

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 01:40 (one week ago) link

you pay less in interest on a line of credit than you would by paying taxes so all of your assets aren’t really liquid. the most common thing a normal person would get is a home equity line of credit, secured against your home’s accrued value. imagine that, but the security is *waves hands* all your assets

he did sell off Tesla stock to contribute $27B to the twitter sale but the bank loans were secured by the company, not him (https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2022/10/28/how-elon-musk-financed-his-twitter-takeover). so if twitter goes bust, it’s the other investors and the banks that take a bath. he already did his twitter money deal and if he runs it into the ground he can probably write it off as a loss on his taxes for the next decade

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 02:42 (one week ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/ORKd96p.jpeg

, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 03:10 (one week ago) link

Tesla's senior vice president of powertrain and energy engineering, Drew Baglino, is leaving after 18 years at the auto-maker, he said in a post on social media site X on Monday. Tesla's vice president of public policy and business development, Rohan Patel, has also left the carmaker, according to a post on X by a Bloomberg News reporter.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, April 15, 2024 6:20 PM (four hours ago)

18 years, that's crazy. his net worth is probably in the 9 figures. hard to feel sorry for him

, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 03:13 (one week ago) link

what the fuck is he talking about

This guy is the dumbest motherfucker on earth pic.twitter.com/zhxfAHvqST

— evan loves worf (@esjesjesj) April 16, 2024

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 03:30 (one week ago) link

like he's invented a scenario in which AI is killing millions of people and the thing that terrifies him is that it'll kill too many white people

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 03:36 (one week ago) link

the ai designed and implemented a genetic engineering program so that now there are babbies with 13 or 14 or more fingers

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 03:47 (one week ago) link

Would be more forceful if the (correct) Elon critic wasn’t paying Elon for exposure.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 06:40 (one week ago) link

Elon bought Twitter so he could essentially spend every day shouting via it, "I am the Emperor and I am naked as fuck"

lol @ the cybertruck message board there are so many damn issues with this thing

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/forums/issues-repairs-warranty-recalls.66/

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:37 (one week ago) link

Would be more forceful if the (correct) Elon critic wasn’t paying Elon for exposure.

― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, April 16, 2024 1:40 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I don't think he is, a bunch of people got blue checks over the last couple weeks against their will

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:37 (one week ago) link

also one more thing that bothers me

https://i.imgur.com/kE5lGFn.png

"namespace" is a term which actually means something, anyone who's ever done any programming should be familiar with it, and he's using it to refer to the pool of available usernames on Twitter. like this comp sci shit is supposed to be one area he's actually competent in but all the evidence just points to him being a huge idiot there too. people are so eager to give him the benefit of the doubt because he's awkward and dorky, instead it's more like what if Sheldon from Bing Bong Theory was actually just a huge dumbass. I mean take it from me, I played Magic: the Gathering for 15 years, these people absolutely do exist. sometimes they have emerald mines and government contracts I guess.

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:45 (one week ago) link

bullies snatched my namespace

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:56 (one week ago) link

if only there was something that Elon Musk, owner, executive chairman, and CTO of X Corp, could do about these "bot armies"

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:00 (one week ago) link

pretty funny how he claimed he was buying twitter to get rid of the bots

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:01 (one week ago) link

“if i did it (that is, added more bots to twitter)”

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:17 (one week ago) link

he also claimed he was making a car where the steering wheel did not just whiff out the window when you are driving

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:19 (one week ago) link

a great yoke that doesnt fly off your hand

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:24 (one week ago) link

Great user names like Cindy0737396354

Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:25 (one week ago) link

odd that he didnt understand that firing everyone would effect things like controlling spam, sure you can keep the core product running kind of ok but all the other stuff is going to massively suffer, and those things matter people dont want pussy in bio in their replies

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:28 (one week ago) link

what happened to his plan of charging all new users $1 to register?

, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:46 (one week ago) link

xp He probably believed, and still believes, that the problem could be fixed easily by just writing the right magic code that will solve all the problems and Twitter employed all those humans because of woke or something. I’m surprised he isn’t babbling on now about how “AI” will fix everything.

President of the Canadian Council of Bassoonists (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:54 (one week ago) link

He speaks like a midlevel manager who's picked up the latest buzzword round the conference table and starts using it every other sentence.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:55 (one week ago) link

this giy is worth billions, this toilet gonna flush sooo long, or we can just say the serenity prayer for about 5 billion minutes

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:04 (one week ago) link

Another day, another cybertruck fail
"CT windshield did not withstand a freak sudden hailstorm in Austin, rest of vehicle seems fine. None of the other cars parked next to it had windshield damage but they had lots of dings in their body. Pretty disappointing, will let y’all know how much it costs to fix"
https://www.reddit.com/r/cybertruck/comments/1c07zlw/ct_windshield_did_not_withstand_a_freak_sudden/

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 05:55 (one week ago) link

Truck seems to be entering the league of the Edsel and the Pinto in automotive legend

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 06:09 (one week ago) link

ddr2sodimm
Wonder if flat shape and shallow angle makes it easier to break. Bad either way.

booboothechicken
If that theory holds true, the good news would mean that it’s much more resistant to the more common occurrence of rock chips being kicked up from the road. Just bad for the small chance of things falling from the sky.

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 12:12 (one week ago) link

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-17/tesla-asks-shareholders-to-re-ratify-musk-s-56-billion-payout

would be funny if this failed. unfortunately it probably won't

, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 13:19 (one week ago) link

aww

“Because the Delaware Court second-guessed your decision, Elon has not been paid for any of his work for Tesla for the past six years that has helped to generate significant growth and stockholder value”

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 13:26 (one week ago) link

the cybertruck can withstand gunfire but not the car wash

$TSLA Cybertruck owners ..

1) do NOT wash your car in sunlight and

2) do NOT tell Tesla SCs that you drove it through a car wash (like this guy) even if you turned on Car Wash Mode. They will void your warranty. 💀 pic.twitter.com/eXpaxlm2X6

— Stonk King (((🌕))) (@StonkKing4) April 16, 2024

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:33 (one week ago) link

How is Tesla not getting class action sued into oblivion?

I guess more to follow…

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:48 (one week ago) link

yeah gotta think it coming

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:49 (one week ago) link

well, they are like school in summer tbh

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:50 (one week ago) link

What's a Tesla SC?

peace, man, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:02 (one week ago) link

Service centre?

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:04 (one week ago) link

Ah, that makes sense. They also have Super Chargers, and I was pretty sure it wasn't that.

peace, man, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:18 (one week ago) link

real $TSLA-heads pivoting to the LIVER KING lifestyle (never wash yr ass, never wash yr cybertruck)

mark s, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:56 (one week ago) link

someone sent this to me and I'm fucking dying pic.twitter.com/LIj2F9OAwE

— mr pussy (@_mrpussy) April 17, 2024

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Thursday, 18 April 2024 00:32 (one week ago) link

lmao get em

lag∞n, Thursday, 18 April 2024 00:33 (one week ago) link

Tesla should be renamed Douchewagon anyway, it would be more accurate.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Thursday, 18 April 2024 01:01 (one week ago) link

Tesla’s stock tumbled below $150 per share, giving up all of the gains made over the past year as the electric vehicle maker reels from falling sales and steep discounts intended to lure more buyers.

Shares in the Elon Musk-owned company slid nearly 4% in intraday trading Thursday, in what what now stands as the third worst week for the stock in 2024, a year that has been dismal for Tesla investors. The Austin, Texas company’s shares are down 12.4% this week and more than 39% this year.

Shares of Tesla Inc. last traded for $150 in January 2023.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:14 (one week ago) link

"don't wash your car in sunlight" is amazing

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 April 2024 20:01 (one week ago) link

Does anyone know what types of damage might occur if I breathe on my Cybertruck wrong

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 April 2024 20:23 (one week ago) link

amazing how Elon used to claim this thing could be used as a boat when it can't even survive the carwash

frogbs, Thursday, 18 April 2024 20:25 (one week ago) link

I wash my cy-ber-truck at night, so I can so I can

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Thursday, 18 April 2024 21:01 (one week ago) link

washing cybertruck at night, elon's delight
washing cybertruck in morning, owners take warning

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 April 2024 21:04 (one week ago) link

lol

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 April 2024 21:04 (one week ago) link

Most ev makers do a lot of “recalls” but 90% of those are over the air software updates. This is different.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 19 April 2024 12:49 (six days ago) link

Makes sense, because those fuckin things look like one of the "Total Recall" Johnnycabs.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 April 2024 12:52 (six days ago) link

soap made the pedal fly off while youre driving

“an unapproved change introduced lubricant (soap) to aid in the component assembly of the pad onto the accelerator pedal,” and that “residual lubricant reduced the retention of the pad to the pedal.”

lag∞n, Friday, 19 April 2024 12:52 (six days ago) link

We used lubricant instead of glue to attach your accelerator. Oopsie!

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 19 April 2024 12:55 (six days ago) link

cybertruck owners shafted by lube

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 19 April 2024 12:56 (six days ago) link

at least they wont have to repair too many of them

Tesla is recalling all 3,878 Cybertrucks that it has shipped to date

lag∞n, Friday, 19 April 2024 13:00 (six days ago) link

in other news

Jesus fucking Christ he’s such an idiot pic.twitter.com/hf7iRNigeg

— evan loves worf (@esjesjesj) April 19, 2024

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 19 April 2024 13:02 (six days ago) link

Just popped over to check out a Tesla investors forum. Usually they are neutral at worst, because it's all about the $$$, but they seem pretty down on Musk. They'd prefer he be out at the company, and they for sure wish he was not posting all the time, which they believe (and they may be right) directly correlates with the poor operation of the company. Not just because people now conflate twitter/Tesla/Musk with right-wing trolling, but because Musk himself is so impulsive and unable to control himself. Personally, I say fuck 'em all, but I wonder if Musk left Tesla (which I don't see happening) and a "normal" CEO were brought on board, could the company turn things around again? Or would it, too, become so "normal" that it would keep fading?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 April 2024 13:07 (six days ago) link

it's funny seems like a lifetime ago but I remember when Tesla was seen as this vaguely liberal yet luxury eco friendly signifier

its funny/ironic cuz using soap on the install is probably exactly the kind of ‘hack’ that elon was probably pushing internally back when he was ‘sleeping at the factory’ to make more model 3s or w/e

, Friday, 19 April 2024 13:30 (six days ago) link

That's how we can tell that either this is the real Musk, or he is mentally ill (or both), because he seemed to have a good thing going for him and fucked it all up, apparently intentionally. Bezos, I'm sure he's a huge twat, but he seems to have the sense to keep his mouth shut. Trump, he used to have this vague liberal veneer to him, too, and yeah, he's gone full heel as well, but he is old and was always a stupid asshole.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 April 2024 13:32 (six days ago) link

with Bezos its kind of a "don't hate the player hate the game" situation, he's doing the kind of shit you might expect from an obscenely wealthy person. meanwhile Elon spends all his time being a terrible reactionary shitposter like any number of Nazi losers, who are either getting paid for it or are teeangers. Elon is neither, in fact he's like actively losing billions of dollars doing this shit

frogbs, Friday, 19 April 2024 14:20 (six days ago) link

Really cool that 'unapproved changes' are happening in the manufacturing process

kinder, Friday, 19 April 2024 16:04 (six days ago) link

theyre just taking a page from boeings playbook https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/11/us/politics/spirit-aerosystems-boeing-737-max.html

, Friday, 19 April 2024 16:11 (six days ago) link

its funny elons blaming the soap when it really is a batshit design that should never have made it out of autocad or w/e hell auto engineers use to design cars

, Friday, 19 April 2024 16:14 (six days ago) link

Tesla is recalling all 3,878 Cybertrucks that it has shipped to date

― lag∞n, Friday, April 19, 2024 8:00 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

the sheer number and variety of problems and defects that have surfaced in cybertrucks so far based on this incredibly small sample size...i can't quite wrap my brain around it

i don't know that Tesla can fully recover, i think that specific design on the main fleet is pretty tiresome to a lot of people and at some point if you're driving a white tesla and you're at a stoplight with six other white teslas, it's a little embarrassing, and there are other better looking EVs out there now.

omar little, Friday, 19 April 2024 16:16 (six days ago) link

just out of curiosity i looked it up and Ford sold 750,789 F-150s in 2023

it's still a hot-shit vehicle to own to a certain degree but it doesn't feel like a long-term respectable brand, and i think the cybertruck is such an ugly failure it shows a company that doesn't have a clue.

omar little, Friday, 19 April 2024 16:17 (six days ago) link

Cybertruck seems destined to be the Pinto of this generation, known solely for people dunking on it. though it's way more expensive which makes it a lot more embarrassing

frogbs, Friday, 19 April 2024 16:25 (six days ago) link

and yeah Tesla's reputation has cratered in a way I've never really seen, I mean I remember people getting all stoked just for the chance to ride in one, now the main thing I hear is "they're kinda ugly aren't they?". Elon himself isn't helping by being a total embarrassment, it's not even like a party line thing as it is with Trump, he only appeals to a specific type of incel Nazi

frogbs, Friday, 19 April 2024 16:27 (six days ago) link

would be funny if the next gen teslas just copied the hyundai evs which prob have the best ev design language right now

, Friday, 19 April 2024 17:05 (six days ago) link

the sheer number and variety of problems and defects that have surfaced in cybertrucks so far based on this incredibly small sample size...i can't quite wrap my brain around it

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

Anecdotal data from my city, I've only seen 2 (TWO) Cybertrucks of ~10 that were not on the back of a tow truck = 20% not being towed (for being inoperable or parked illegaly, I know not).

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 19 April 2024 18:13 (six days ago) link

3,878 seems not that many sales across nearly six months?

mark s, Friday, 19 April 2024 18:21 (six days ago) link

they cant make enough

lag∞n, Friday, 19 April 2024 18:22 (six days ago) link

yes i guess it's deliveries not sales

mark s, Friday, 19 April 2024 18:25 (six days ago) link

also stock just dipped below 148

mark s, Friday, 19 April 2024 18:27 (six days ago) link

it should go to zero thats what id pay

lag∞n, Friday, 19 April 2024 18:29 (six days ago) link

tesla as the plucky underdog penny stock of the future

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Friday, 19 April 2024 18:30 (six days ago) link

Trump, he used to have this vague liberal veneer to him

I’m sorry, what

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Friday, 19 April 2024 19:49 (six days ago) link

(stock might end the day below 146 lol)

mark s, Friday, 19 April 2024 19:50 (six days ago) link

Trump used to be a Dem donor who would sign his name to climate pledges and the like lol

frogbs, Friday, 19 April 2024 19:51 (six days ago) link

(nope there was a late little rally 👎🏽)

mark s, Friday, 19 April 2024 20:05 (six days ago) link

Musk OUT wouldn’t help Tesla. A new CEO isn’t going to make FSD real and if one came in and actually made the real world product better it would still be valued at car company prices instead of tech unicorn prices.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 19 April 2024 20:13 (six days ago) link

Everybody dunked on his compensation package but without his relentless lying and hyping it would be a $35 stock so maybe he did create all that “shareholder value.”

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 19 April 2024 20:15 (six days ago) link

It would help Tesla but it would destroy their stock price. People buy Tesla because Musk.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 19 April 2024 20:16 (six days ago) link

People buy Tesla because Musk.

I said to my wife over lunch that the fact that the Cybertruck recall impacts fewer than 4000 vehicles means that the Musk cult is a whole lot smaller than the press a) realizes or b) is willing to acknowledge.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 19 April 2024 20:17 (six days ago) link

People buy tesla *stock* because musk, I should have said.

Fwiw though for now at least they’re selling cybertrucks as fast as they can make them. The fact that they have not sold many is evidence they have not made many, not that musk is or is not an unusually popular CEO.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 19 April 2024 20:57 (six days ago) link

elon made a website asking for his fifty billion dollars back https://www.supportteslavalue.com

lag∞n, Friday, 19 April 2024 21:01 (six days ago) link

lol

Musk OUT wouldn’t help Tesla. A new CEO isn’t going to make FSD real and if one came in and actually made the real world product better it would still be valued at car company prices instead of tech unicorn prices.

― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, April 19, 2024 3:13 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah i mean what's tesla without the musk cult? makers of kinda boring looking and somewhat overpriced EV cars and potentially one of the biggest disasters automotive history in the cybertruck?

when they originally agreed to give him the $50b it was tied to extremely unlikely future stock gains, then the stock went nuts, now he wants that money straight up, why would anyone agree to give it to him its very silly hes trying to extort them by saying hell work more at his other companies if he doesnt get it but hes already doing that, if owning 10% of the company already doesnt motivate him to actually work there why will another fifty billion, the whole situation is absurd, they should just give me the money to work on secret projects

lag∞n, Friday, 19 April 2024 21:30 (six days ago) link

rip institutional bulls. just the cranks now.

We were correct to reduce our $TSLA position from 12.2% in Sept 2022 to 2.7% today because of our concern about deteriorating fundamentals. In hindsight we should have sold our entire $TSLA position rather than kept a small % of it. We were right that cutting prices wouldn’t… https://t.co/bAP97xDIdO

— Gary Black (@garyblack00) April 20, 2024

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 20 April 2024 20:24 (five days ago) link

thats good the cranks can buy all the stock then vote to give elon his fifty billion back

lag∞n, Saturday, 20 April 2024 20:32 (five days ago) link

We don’t care about reality, we believe

After all those hours of conversations with bulls, you still don't get it, Gary. It's not that you're wrong, it's just that those things don't matter much to us.
True bulls are invested for >10-20 yrs. We are not traders, we are investors in the greatest entrepreneur of all time.

— Val 💃 (@ExcusedEarly) April 20, 2024

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 21 April 2024 00:49 (four days ago) link

For over a decade Bernie Madoff looked like the smartest, most successful investor on Wall Street and wealthy people clamored to be allowed to participate in hedge fund. It was like owning a license to print money.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 21 April 2024 02:41 (four days ago) link

All the crypto HODLs said exactly the same thing

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 21 April 2024 23:54 (four days ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/leFmrNv.png

lag∞n, Monday, 22 April 2024 00:34 (three days ago) link

you to love to see it

https://i.imgur.com/tzu9dtO.png

mark s, Monday, 22 April 2024 14:39 (three days ago) link

dipped below 140 briefly :)

mark s, Monday, 22 April 2024 14:40 (three days ago) link

deliveries down (by 20%? time) to cut the workforce (also by 20%)!

*invoices for $56b*

mark s, Monday, 22 April 2024 15:15 (three days ago) link

*some of that's for editing my own posts*

mark s, Monday, 22 April 2024 15:16 (three days ago) link

we shuold see if we can sell ilx to elon for $44b

, Monday, 22 April 2024 15:27 (three days ago) link

more like $44burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Monday, 22 April 2024 15:37 (three days ago) link

$77B

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 22 April 2024 16:15 (three days ago) link

Is Tesla inflating odometer to show more range, ding lessors with over miles and duck repairs under warranty? As I return my leased Model Y I noticed the odometer is off by 20% vs my Lexus RZ. Turns out other Tesla owners have a similar concern. Is Musk gaming the Tesla odometer? https://t.co/jM8Pmf6U1D pic.twitter.com/h4BB0iiar6

— Facts Chaser 🌎 🤦🏻‍♂️ (@Factschaser) April 22, 2024

, Monday, 22 April 2024 23:58 (three days ago) link

thats really messed up

lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 00:00 (two days ago) link

if true at those inflation rates that’s funny for simply being so obviously catchable. i mean car nerds can be pretty merciless with their personal data capture imo. in fact one reason i def doubt these q’s is that it woulda been caught long ago?

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 03:40 (two days ago) link

could be new

lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 03:41 (two days ago) link

the stupidest possible explanation is that its tracking kilometers and calling them miles

lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 03:43 (two days ago) link

hmm. that wld be dumb. remember that mars probe that crashed because its measures calcs had inconsistent imperial/metrics standards? the possibility of a km/mi problem at tesla is somehow proof that elmo should def keep his sights aiming for his personal mars mission or whatever.

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 03:49 (two days ago) link

tesla earnings call today; excited for new lies

mookieproof, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 04:56 (two days ago) link

elo "x" musg currently having a public spat with the Australian Government re defending Twitter's right to circulate video of a stabbing in a church

there will be no winners here, the govt will accuse him of being a lousy corporate citizen, he will get a little elon hard-on about it and cry 'censorship' & 'freedom' - perhaps statistically insignificant number of bozos might decide they want him to be next President of the USA

but the main effect will be to render the Tesla brand even more fucking toxic

Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 05:25 (two days ago) link

oh lol I just saw that tweet about Australian sales figures quoted above, maybe he was just looking to act out and this gave him an opportunity

Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 05:26 (two days ago) link

One of the EV YouTube channels I follow posted their "we lost Cronkite" video on their dismal cybertruck experience. Yeah, sure, a software update will suddenly give your CT locking differentials.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 05:30 (two days ago) link

One of the EV YouTube channels I follow posted their "we lost Cronkite" video on their dismal cybertruck experience. Yeah, sure, a software update will suddenly give your CT locking differentials.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 05:30 (two days ago) link

maybe teslas are measuring every bump in the road
like the freshmen physics troll of measuring the land-sea boundary

adam t. (abanana), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 10:45 (two days ago) link

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-23/tesla-stock-in-no-man-s-land-after-43-rout-ahead-of-earnings:

"The company’s shares are weathering the longest rout since late 2022, tumbling nearly 19% over the past seven days"
(posted a couple of hours before the stock market opens; sub needed for further gems)

mark s, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 12:07 (two days ago) link

here you go https://archive.ph/V1Kcc

, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 12:08 (two days ago) link

👍🏽😇

mark s, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 12:28 (two days ago) link

meanwhile enjoy it while it's pure

https://i.imgur.com/QxQlnAC.png

mark s, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 13:44 (two days ago) link

I'm going to guess Taylor's people didn't return his call

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 16:44 (two days ago) link

I checked and she's still with ornaldo bloomps and probably not having surrogate children with Elon but who can tell

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 18:08 (two days ago) link

"the car is now in Fred Flintstone mode"

ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:07 (yesterday) link

tbf you could buy a much more expensive metal brick

lag∞n, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:09 (yesterday) link

why did the stock go up when their numbers are bad?

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:49 (yesterday) link

mustve been not quite as bad as expected, also its just gone down a lot recently

lag∞n, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:51 (yesterday) link

maybe this too lol

e.w. niedermeyer @niedermeyer.io
Big takeaway from the Tesla earnings call is that Elon doesn't want to do anything to shore up sales, because he'd rather try to use the idle GPUs in parked Teslas as a distributed AI supercomputer... which doesn't make sense, but even if it did, it would still be stealing from your customers.

https://bsky.app/profile/niedermeyer.io/post/3kqtjuvuggc2q

lag∞n, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:58 (yesterday) link

hes still got it baby

lag∞n, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:58 (yesterday) link

juicing the stock 10% with an extremely vague "announcement" re: an affordable car shipping in a few months. got to hand it to him,

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 16:00 (yesterday) link

he is honestly amazing at this stuff tesla would absolutely be out of business now were it not for his grifting

lag∞n, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 16:02 (yesterday) link

why did the stock go up when their numbers are bad?

― frogbs, Wednesday, April 24, 2024 11:49 AM (sixteen minutes ago)

part of the decline pre-earnings was due to rumors that tesla was trashing its low-cast EV project, but then elon reversed course during the actual announcement

i also think some of the gain is probably due to short-covering (which creates buying pressure)

, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 16:07 (yesterday) link

does this short-covering mean that those traders lost out -- because they were gambling on the price falling further than it did -- or that they've made the profit they wanted so they don't care

or does it all depend?

mark s, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 16:23 (yesterday) link

fun fact they probably juiced yesterdays results with some accounting tricks related to one off FSD income. that will become clear tomorrow when they file a 10-Q. expect a drop tomorrow imo.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 17:00 (yesterday) link

Mr guess Musk saw that episode of Silicon Valley where they used the cpus in the refrigerators and just figured he could do that with his cars.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 17:45 (yesterday) link

does this short-covering mean that those traders lost out -- because they were gambling on the price falling further than it did -- or that they've made the profit they wanted so they don't care

or does it all depend?

― mark s, Wednesday, April 24, 2024 12:23 PM (one hour ago)

based on what the stock price has done in the past couple of months i think it's a decent chance the short sellers made some money

, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 17:59 (yesterday) link

is tsla a meme stock yet

adam t. (abanana), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 19:12 (yesterday) link

has been all along

lag∞n, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 19:15 (yesterday) link

Tesla has benefited enormously from Chinese EV subsidies. Its numbers will be a lot worse if those go away.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 19:48 (yesterday) link


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