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aka because we needed something else to obsess over for a few years after today. Or not.

Rumors, lies, stories they made up, whatever. The current big one:

http://www.unleashthefanboy.com/movies/harrison-ford-want-back-in-for-star-wars-episode-7/32960

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

rumour: Alfonso Cuarón to direct.

Perfect Chicken Forever (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

NOW I'm interested.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

Gonna suck. Cuaron's got his own sci-fi epic to shepherd.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

Lucas gonna fuck it up by proxy.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

I've also seen Matthew Vaughn's name bandied about, and he did just suddenly drop out of the X-Men: First Class sequel.

C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

old Mark Hamill sittin' by the phone

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

if you are over the age of like 19 and have any opinion on this whatsoever, you are basically a brony

croup da color of mayonnaise (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

Dude is one of the hardest-working voice actors in the business, Morbs, he ain't hurting for work.

C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

btw I will personally pay both your bar tabs for the coming year if you will GTFO this thread and stay off

C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

dammit, no fair making such an offer when I'm taking oxycodone

but done, motherfuck Star Wars forever

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

Do you still wear this hat Whiney? Because from this angle it looks like some kind of goddamn doggy-ear things. Fucking human tanookis shouldn't make fun of ponies and Star Wars.

[controversial mod edit etc etc]

how's life, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

heard it's tentatively subtitled "Meet the Fetts"

Knut Horowitz, Able-Bodied Investment Banker and Ladies Man (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

I'm wondering how they gunna pull this off in 2.5 years. Fuck the tech and cgi shit, how long will it take to craft a non-crap script?

Also, R5D4 cameo plz plz plz

the max in the high castle (kingfish), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link

how's life, i'd sincerely appreciate it if you didnt bring my IRL life into threads because I made fun of a movie.

croup da color of mayonnaise (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

how long will it take to craft a non-crap script?

what makes you think they would even bother

Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

be-la-tarr! be-la-tarr! be-la-tarr!

save the game like a memory card (cajunsunday), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

Because people non-Lucas will have a say in it, and there are enough Disney/Pixar folks who could pull it off

And most importantly, Disney ain't Dreamworks

the max in the high castle (kingfish), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

this is such a stupid fucking idea, how can anyone have faith in this "franchise" anymore

Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

Holy fucking shit at that being Whiney Weingarten, known to the huddled survivors of the Dorkpocalypse as the Oncoming Storm!

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

Because it's got a gigantic, devoted worldwide fanbase who would go nuts at even the promise of another halfway-decent movie? Just shooting in the dark, here.

C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

Hamill in the PS3 Batman games is AMAZING. Even after I knew it was him, I listened and just could not hear a single drop of Luke Skywalker anywhere in there. But beyond that he invested every line with such cackling menace. Hard to imagine the game would have been nearly as gripping without him.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

/Ain't It Cool

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

The franchise isn't doing that badly: The Force Unleashed, The Old Republic, The Clone Wars, still roughly 1,000 comics per month. I mean it's not like anyone is saying "Oh, are there films too?", but a lot of franchises would swap in a second.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, Hamill has probably joined Ford in Not Needing This Shit Anymore.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

Hamill's voice as the Joker really reminds me of Harvey Fierstein.

how's life, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

It's worth noting that the 3-D re-release of the most reviled film in the franchise still managed to pull in more than $43 million, which is nearly 10% of the movie's lifetime gross.

C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

Hamill has been angling for a voice role on The Clone Wars, but they haven't been able to find a part for him. If they're gonna get an original trilogy star to do a voice on the show, they want it to not be something one-off or pointless.

C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

Tall order, that

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

Because people non-Lucas will have a say in it, and there are enough Disney/Pixar folks who could pull it off

Turned out well for "John Carter," didn't it, about the closest thing one can imagine to a Disney/Pixar braintrust reboot of "Star Wars?"

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

Cuaron's got his own sci-fi epic to shepherd.

btw what is this

Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_%28film%29

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

And frankly this sounds horrible:

Dr. Ryan Stone (Sandra Bullock) is a brilliant medical engineer on her first shuttle mission, with veteran astronaut Matt Kowalsky (George Clooney) in command of his last flight before retiring. But on a seemingly routine spacewalk, disaster strikes. The shuttle is destroyed, leaving Stone and Kowalsky completely alone--tethered to nothing but each other and spiraling out into the blackness. The deafening silence tells them they have lost any link to Earth, and any chance for rescue. As fear turns to panic, every gulp of air eats away at what little oxygen is left. But the only way home may be to go further out into the terrifying expanse of space

DUN-DUN-DUNNNNNNN

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

I mean if this plays as a comedy, sure.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

Aren't Sandra Bullock and George Clooney the same age?

banana hammock unitard (DJP), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

Sandra plays a 20 year old, George plays 93.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

I wonder if I can think of any differences between the Star Wars franchise and John Carter of Mars hmmmmm let me ponder

C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

so it's 'Deep Water' in space.

xp

have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

(Sandra Bullock) is a brilliant medical engineer

lol

Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

this is basically "The Net in space" which means it's going to be hilarious

banana hammock unitard (DJP), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

Did anyone here other than me see Wreck-It Ralph?

the max in the high castle (kingfish), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

god, Matthew Vaughan would be such an uninspiring choice

Number None, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

In the Wreck It Ralph thread I note that I have seen Wreck It Ralph.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

you know i really like Hamill, especially in Empire.. he's called onto to do a lot of different stuff emotionally and pretty much the entire thing is carried by him. he's the star and hero of the best loved set of movies ever and i'm baffled why he doesn't get more credit. i'm sure this has been discussed at length elsewhere. maybe everyone else likes him too?

piscesx, Thursday, 8 November 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link

I always considered him a total - and wonderful - ham in Empire. Even as a kid, I laughed by ass off at "that's not true, THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!". That said, I genuinely believe his voice work on Batman/Justice League is top quality.

Nhex, Friday, 9 November 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link

I can't find the direct quote, but Sam Fuller directed Hamill in Big Red One and said that Star Wars ruined the dude, in terms of wasting what Hamill could do vs what he was pigeon-holed into

the max in the high castle (kingfish), Friday, 9 November 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link

His Joker gets a lifetime pass from me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld0uIhst3TA

Listened to Hamill on that Batman podcast that Kevin Smith is doing (by far the best thing Smith has ever done). He's really a pro, very much a technician when it comes to performance.

45 DOWN: "NYPD Blue" actor ____ Morales (R Baez), Friday, 9 November 2012 02:00 (eleven years ago) link

In terms of a script, there has to be gold somewhere in the hundreds of SW universe novels.

calstars, Friday, 9 November 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link

you'd think that

Number None, Friday, 9 November 2012 02:13 (eleven years ago) link

Bring in the rabbit dude from the comics.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 November 2012 02:21 (eleven years ago) link

Responding to something Shakey said upthread, you can make compelling stories in this universe(I've given three examples at least), but the more important thing game-wise is that it will never, ever NOT be fun to force-throw a stormtrooper dude off a gangplank to his screaming death

I wonder how the purchase will affect Star Wars 1313, still in development.

the max in the high castle (kingfish), Friday, 9 November 2012 02:30 (eleven years ago) link

Hamill never bothered me much, except the timbre of his yelling voice. Also he had a bad traffic accident between the first 2 films, couldn't have been an easy time.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 November 2012 09:43 (eleven years ago) link

Pretty sure you mean a wampa accident.

Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 November 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

Bring in the rabbit dude from the comics.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:21 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not familiar with the comics. Was it one of these little guys that Chewie's rescuing?

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070715013152/starwars/images/9/96/PlanetOfTheHoojibs-BookAndTape.jpg

how's life, Friday, 9 November 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

nah, it was this dude
http://www.snowbuni.com/yabbfiles/Attachments/MISC_jaxxon.jpg

Number None, Friday, 9 November 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link

if you want to go down the rabbit-hole, so to speak

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jaxxon

Number None, Friday, 9 November 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link

Oh man, that's so much worse! I had really been looking forward to a fourth Star Wars movie with Hoojibs in it. I've never budged on my love for Ewoks either. But that rabbit...lord, almighty.

how's life, Friday, 9 November 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

Leporidist.

Dog the Puffin Hunter (ledge), Friday, 9 November 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

I've never budged on my love for Ewoks

I've always liked Ewoks too. The bit where one is shaking his dead mate to see if he'll wake up always gets to me.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 9 November 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

The Ewoks are cool. I mean even some of the crappier CGI creations in the prequels might have been tolerable if they were actual puppets or whatever

Number None, Friday, 9 November 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

Jaxxon was a quick-witted Lepi smuggler from Coachelle Prime. The most rambunctious of his family's thirteen children, he left his homeworld at an early age, after stealing an unprotected freighter. He made his way to Nar Shaddaa, where he began to perform odd jobs, quickly becoming familiar with the important elements of fringe culture.

hipster bunnies?

Merdeyeux, Friday, 9 November 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

Coachelle Prime.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 November 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

I've never budged on my love for Ewoks either.

I never in my life thought I'd see this sentence

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Friday, 9 November 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

Jaxxon in the comics was hilarious/awesome. accompanied by big-tittied human sidekick iirc

Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 November 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

AMAIZA FOXTRAIN

Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 November 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

I know it's long past time for this but: Whiney OTM

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Friday, 9 November 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

yes because god forbid on a website dedicated to obsessing over the minutia of popular culture we start drawings lines around which are acceptable

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 November 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

"my nerdery is more acceptale than your nerdery"

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

wtf is wrong with my keyboard

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

I really don't understand why you react to vague non-serious teasing as if it was a personal attack

also: "Amaiza Foxtrain" <--- I mean come on

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think she's been confirmed for the new movie yet but we can dream

Number None, Friday, 9 November 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

lol i'm so not taking it personally, i'd say the same thing in any other thread where someone decided to equate nerding out over something to people wanting to fuck cartoon ponies

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

if you'd said "lol star wars nerds" i'd be okay, but you were otming Whiney's trolling post

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link

bronies vs. star wars nerds is the new trekkies vs. whovians

Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

not really, at all. unless the whovians actually produced daleks that they could fuck.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

lol i'm so not taking it personally, i'd say the same thing in any other thread where someone decided to equate nerding out over something to people wanting to fuck cartoon ponies

― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, November 9, 2012 1:05 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Jon, I take offence to your notion that being a brony is all about the fuckin'.

how's life, Friday, 9 November 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

... I don't see how that joke was inappropriate, coming as it did after the reveal of big-titted human sidekick Amaiza Foxtrain

tbh I am glad we are having this conversation because just typing "Amaiza Foxtrain" is cracking me up

ps: Amaiza Foxtrain

xp: you haven't seen the picture of 70s companion Jo Grant nude and draped over a Dalek, I take it

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

lol, that i have not seen. and no, i'm not defending the kookier/crepeier corners of star wars nerdery either.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

i know i really shouldn't be surprised, but the level of detail in every article on wookieepedia, it's mindblowing.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 9 November 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

^^^ Merdeyeux otm

funny, even as a star wars stan i had never spent much time on that before it was brought up itt

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

i mostly just like when it reminds me of the old comics i haven't read in 20+ years

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

ftr I love Star Wars and Doctor Who and Star Trek

My Little Pony can fuck off though, unless it's that cracked-out "call upon the Sea Ponies" video

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

I discovered this wondrous bit of prose on wookiepedia a while back. I never tire of reading it

The remaining IG-88 uploaded his consciousness into a computer core destined for Death Star II. He succeeded in being uploaded, and was preparing to activate his program to take over all droids in the galaxy when it was destroyed. With his consciousness in the Death Star II, he would literally become the Death Star.[3]
Emperor Palpatine was the only known person on the Death Star to suspect something was wrong after the uploading of the computer core with IG-88 inside. Before the station's destruction, he noticed a series of doors in his throne room opening and closing sporadically. IG-88 did this to show the Emperor that he was not all powerful. However, IG-88 was utterly baffled when it appeared that Emperor Palpatine used some unseen force to attempt to push the doors open. However, IG-88 exerted more force and was able to continue to keep the Emperor locked in, until he grew tired of the game and unlocked the door.[3]

Number None, Friday, 9 November 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

big green rabbit is only scratching the surface of the range of wacky characters in the comics

Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

that's the kind of gold you get in the expanded universe novels btw

Number None, Friday, 9 November 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

Number None, that is amazing

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

the only expanded universe novels i've ever read were those Zhan Thrawn trilogy books.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

oh wait, i had a book of short stories about the bounty hunters at one point, including one about IG-88 but it didn't tie in with Number None's story.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

I read one of the Han Solo books, it had a blue cover? I remember it was super boring, then amazing, then boring again.

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

http://brunching.com/images/geekchart2.gif

C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

Zahn books are pretty much the only ones worth reading

乒乓, Friday, 9 November 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

i had the bounty hunters book too, i remember an ig-88 story but playing practical jokes on the emperor doesn't ring a bell.

i like the attention to detail of all the articles being in the past tense. it was a long time ago!!!!

Merdeyeux, Friday, 9 November 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

xp I don't know, I admire the whole series where the writers [SPOILER ALERT] gave Han and Leia three kids, then killed off two of them. Kinda ballsy.

C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

hah I think that's after my time - I do remember their three kids

乒乓, Friday, 9 November 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

remember realizing even as a kid that Kevin J. Anderson is one of the absolutely worst writers ever

乒乓, Friday, 9 November 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

C'mon man what abt Splinter of the Mind's Eye?

this update fixes the following known sugs (Jon Lewis), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

Fuckin' film that shit!

this update fixes the following known sugs (Jon Lewis), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly6lgbvmMm1qi0m30o1_250.jpg

Looks like some sort of steampunk erotica.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 November 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

OMG

Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 November 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

Amaiza'd

Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 November 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

there are at least two others from that photoshoot

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Friday, 9 November 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

Someone should put some clothes on that dalek.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 November 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

Only novels I ever read were the Thrawn books and the zombie one on audio, which was actually pretty good had it not had the requisite cameos

the max in the high castle (kingfish), Saturday, 10 November 2012 02:38 (eleven years ago) link

No matter – whatever happens, the Twilight series' positive legacy is already written in stone. A generation of young readers have spent hundreds – nay thousands – of hours reading Meyer's books with the same passion and enthusiasm that the great gothic novels once excited. Moreover, they have formed an extremely vocal and articulate fanbase whose obsessive dedication to the written word has effectively forced the film-makers to remain essentially respectful of the source texts.

Truly, trolling refined into high art.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 November 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link

Wow, didn't expect that to be Kermode before I clicked it.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 11 November 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

He thinks The Exorcist is the best film ever made

Number None, Sunday, 11 November 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/BLX-5

just remembered this guy for some reason. i wonder if the extended universe authors are at all trolling george l with all of the terrible terrible names?

fun facts about human waste (Merdeyeux), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

A philosophical Bollux

Number None, Monday, 12 November 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

C'mon man what abt Splinter of the Mind's Eye?

It's somewhat mindblowing to learn about this and read about the writing of "Empire" and realize "I had it all planned out from day one!" was GL's most successful achievement in creating the Star Wars myth.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

It sounds like Mark, Harrison, and Carrie are down with this. I'm ok with it too, as long as Mark doesn't have to have that dumb 'Padawan learner' buzzcut with the asymmetrical rat tail from TPM.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

... why would he?

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 12 November 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

In the event that Luke Skywalker had a kid and is training him to be a Jedi. And said kid may turn out evil (???) It rhymes like POETRY!

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 12 November 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

but... if he is the teacher, why would he have the hairdo of a padawan, is the question I am waiting for you to ask yourself

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 12 November 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

both of you are on time out, go to the corner and reflect on what youve done

乒乓, Monday, 12 November 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

I'm just going to sit over here and wait for you to actually remember the rest of the movie

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 12 November 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

Camera pans down to ugly pink Yoda-like creature with an eyepatch, right?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 12 November 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

No, Ewan was wearing trousers that day.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 12 November 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

ugly pink Yoda-like creature

http://www.doctorwhoreviews.co.uk/2007-13_files/Last%20of%20the%20Time%20Lords%20(7).jpg

nuts spats (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 12 November 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

haha, nice

Nhex, Monday, 12 November 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

I hope this happens, just to hear the screams that result:

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/357610/Darth-Vader-to-be-resurrected

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

haha "a film mole" speaking to a UK paper doesn't seem hella reliable.

Fieri-brand sausages into my and your ready holes (silby), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

It isn't, but this is the shit talk thread, anything goes.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Director list allegedly including/down to Vaughn, Favreau, Fincher.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 December 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

was thinking vince vaughn for a second

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

I love how this is all this bizarre demi-disgust over the 501st, who are all about the charity work.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

Keep in mind that, legally speaking, Nikki Finke is mentally retarded.

super perv powder (Phil D.), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

holy hell that is hilarious

fans really are the worst

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

You don't think it is a little weird for nerds to dress up as fictional baby-killin' fascist troops and visit children's hospitals?

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

Darth Vader and stormtroopers have been kids' favorite characters since, like, 1977, along with Chewbacca and the droids.

super perv powder (Phil D.), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

Lest we forget

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5mK7dzyUkM

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

okay best kid ever

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

(family better watch out for puberty)

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

OH. MY. GOSH.

That little taH'qeq!!! Any other petaQs or any other Romolushnon hu'tegh baktag have any similar ideas? XD

Romulan64 1 week ago

kill

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

Finally, we're going to find out that R2 D2 is a true Jedi master!

jel --, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

io9 has things to say about idiot fan

http://io9.com/5965636/and-heres-the-worst-star-wars-fan-in-the-entire-world

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

I've been having massive lols these past few weeks at people I know on Facebook that are taking a break from their constant Game of Thrones or Twilight status updates to sneer at Star Wars and Star Trek fans.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:17 (eleven years ago) link

We know different people.

SHUT UP AND GET YOUR TURKEY SCIENCE BOOKS (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

"Little Miss Sunshine" screenwriter Michael Arndy is penning the script.

© all the feelings + infinity (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 24 January 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

he also did Toy Story 3

Number None, Thursday, 24 January 2013 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

Yawn.

contrarian, zing thyself (cajunsunday), Thursday, 24 January 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

Actually, I think he's a great choice. I'm a little more optimistic now. I thought he did a great job with Super-8, and I think he will be the dude that can remember that these are meant to be, at heart, kid's stories but that kids don't need to be condescended to (fucking jar-jar).

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 24 January 2013 22:11 (eleven years ago) link

oh shit, stormtroopers AND lens flare!

abanana, Thursday, 24 January 2013 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

haha, tbf though, considering the major Close Encouters era Spielberg vibe Abrams was going for, the lens flare was p appropriate if completely fucking overused

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 24 January 2013 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

This seems like a win-win to me. Now that Star Trek has been revived as commercially viable franchise, someone else can take it in a more interesting direction and Abrams can make the Star Wars movie he always wanted to make.

And anyone who was excited about new Star Wars to begin with and is disappointed with this news: lol, sucker.

fiscal cliff huxtable (latebloomer), Thursday, 24 January 2013 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

i'm pretty happy with it!

Nhex, Thursday, 24 January 2013 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

This seems like a win-win to me. Now that Star Trek has been revived as commercially viable franchise, someone else can take it in a more interesting direction and Abrams can make the Star Wars movie he always wanted to make.

And anyone who was excited about new Star Wars to begin with and is disappointed with this news: lol, sucker.

― fiscal cliff huxtable (latebloomer), Thursday, January 24, 2013 5:36 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

otm

turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 24 January 2013 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

Trek and Wars crossover closer than ever now

how's life, Thursday, 24 January 2013 22:58 (eleven years ago) link

What a wonderful world.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 January 2013 23:41 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/zMru5.png

EZ Snappin, Friday, 25 January 2013 01:56 (eleven years ago) link

lol, well hey if "too much lens flare" is all they've got, he's getting off lucky so far. i don't envy dude at all, hope he's prepared to have every decision he makes for the next four years consistently shat upon by all corners of the internet.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 January 2013 02:59 (eleven years ago) link

That didn't take long:

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/44723_10151372368959828_784677587_n.jpg

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 January 2013 03:03 (eleven years ago) link

feel like this dude could do ok if he concentrates on making a cool movie and avoids the super 8 sentimental meta bullshit, could be p hard to resist what w working on a legendary franchise and the temptation to just fill it w a lot of nerd pleasing references to the 1st trilogy

lag∞n, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

So like Segel's The Muppets, basically.

(hcnuL dlO) * (Old Lunch), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

I demand a nerd-pleasing reference to AMAIZA FOXTRAIN

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

even just like stylistic references to the first one could be p dangerous

lag∞n, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

Eh i don't think so. As long as GL isn't involved then there is far less to worry about.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

Every Star Wars movie references the older ones, starting w Empire.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:56 (eleven years ago) link

cool post

lag∞n, Friday, 25 January 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

Cool response

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 25 January 2013 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

How wude!

Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Friday, 25 January 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

AMAIZA FOXTRAIN is expanded universe i.e. not in any films. Like "Tiberius".

abanana, Friday, 25 January 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

a crime which needs to be rectified

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 January 2013 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

even just like stylistic references to the first one could be p dangerous

― lag∞n, Friday, January 25, 2013 11:46 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

naw they gotta do the wipes and stuff

zero dark (s1ocki), Friday, 25 January 2013 22:28 (eleven years ago) link

Wonder how much Disney would have to pay Fox to license the fanfare for use before the opening crawl?

Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Friday, 25 January 2013 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

Hahah I've been wondering about that since day one.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 January 2013 23:00 (eleven years ago) link

ha

zero dark (s1ocki), Friday, 25 January 2013 23:05 (eleven years ago) link

There's no worse vanity card than the 3D BV castle these days.

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Saturday, 26 January 2013 01:50 (eleven years ago) link

I will miss the fanfare, but I will not miss this movie. Very excited that anyone who grew up on SW will be directing SW.

Plus, they're sequels. It's not like he's remaking Holy Mountain or something.

Nate Carson, Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:49 (eleven years ago) link

And on a related note, I just had the pleasure of watching the fan-edited HD versions of the original trilogy. Was just like being back in the theater as a kid. Highly recommend downloading those from your favorite torrent and reliving the glory.

Nate Carson, Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:52 (eleven years ago) link

which one, tho? there's at least a few

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Saturday, 26 January 2013 04:43 (eleven years ago) link

Formal rubbage from the starwars.com site:

After a bevy of emails and phone calls, the formalities have been wrapped up, and at long last everyone can exhale and properly share the word with an excited Internet. Yes, J.J. Abrams will direct Star Wars: Episode VII, the first of a new series of Star Wars films to come from Lucasfilm under the leadership of Kathleen Kennedy. Abrams will be directing and Academy Award-winning writer Michael Arndt will write the screenplay.

"It's very exciting to have J.J. aboard leading the charge as we set off to make a new Star Wars movie," said Kennedy. "J.J. is the perfect director to helm this. Beyond having such great instincts as a filmmaker, he has an intuitive understanding of this franchise. He understands the essence of the Star Wars experience, and will bring that talent to create an unforgettable motion picture."

George Lucas went on to say "I've consistently been impressed with J.J. as a filmmaker and storyteller." He's an ideal choice to direct the new Star Wars film and the legacy couldn't be in better hands."

"To be a part of the next chapter of the Star Wars saga, to collaborate with Kathy Kennedy and this remarkable group of people, is an absolute honor," J.J. Abrams said. "I may be even more grateful to George Lucas now than I was as a kid."

J.J., his longtime producing partner Bryan Burk, and Bad Robot are on board to produce along with Kathleen Kennedy under the Disney | Lucasfilm banner."

Also consulting on the project are Lawrence Kasdan and Simon Kinberg. Kasdan has a long history with Lucasfilm, as screenwriter on The Empire Strikes Back, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Return of the Jedi. Kinberg was writer on Sherlock Holmes and Mr. and Mrs. Smith.

Abrams and his production company Bad Robot have a proven track record of blockbuster movies that feature complex action, heartfelt drama, iconic heroes and fantastic production values with such credits as Star Trek, Super 8, Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol, and this year's Star Trek Into Darkness. Abrams has worked with Lucasfilm's preeminent postproduction facilities, Industrial Light & Magic and Skywalker Sound, on all of the feature films he has directed, beginning with Mission: Impossible III. He also created or co-created such acclaimed television series as Felicity, Alias, Lost and Fringe.

Etc. etc. whatever.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 26 January 2013 05:45 (eleven years ago) link

hey ned what's up

Mordy, Saturday, 26 January 2013 05:45 (eleven years ago) link

there's like a 100% chance that Ben Burtt will be back for Artoo/sound design, right?

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Saturday, 26 January 2013 05:57 (eleven years ago) link

xp Hullo.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 26 January 2013 06:00 (eleven years ago) link

i feel like you're hedging on this hello. the 'u' tipped me off

Mordy, Saturday, 26 January 2013 06:02 (eleven years ago) link

That's because I'm about to get some sleep!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 26 January 2013 06:03 (eleven years ago) link

sweet dreams ye princes of ilx u kings of ned raggetss

Mordy, Saturday, 26 January 2013 06:04 (eleven years ago) link

This is the best possible big-name director they could've picked imo. Wish they would've asked David Lynch again tho.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 26 January 2013 06:34 (eleven years ago) link

Roman Polanski

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Saturday, 26 January 2013 09:14 (eleven years ago) link

Steve McQueen

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 26 January 2013 10:06 (eleven years ago) link

Haneke, bitch!

DavidM, Saturday, 26 January 2013 10:18 (eleven years ago) link

herzong obv

Clay, Saturday, 26 January 2013 10:21 (eleven years ago) link

herzog even jeez i'm not even drunk

herzong sounds cool too whatever

Clay, Saturday, 26 January 2013 10:21 (eleven years ago) link

Then they could tell everyone that this is Herzong.

Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Saturday, 26 January 2013 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

herzomg

Mordy, Saturday, 26 January 2013 14:36 (eleven years ago) link

Be funny if after Abrams makes his CGI-rich Star Wars, Lucas goes back and remakes the effects with practical models, mattes, etc.

Wrench in the works here is that this is not a reboot. What made the Abrams "Star Trek" so solid was that he was, working off of and correcting (or at least compensating for) decades of missteps and mythology. This, on the other hand, will have to fit into some grander narrative, and Abrams has been less than solid when it comes to actually telling new stories. Not that the story of "Star Wars" is particularly compelling as more than boilerplate. Anyway, any hack could have made this movie - Richard Marquand! - but at least they picked a competent hack.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 January 2013 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

as long as Lindelof stays away from it...

Number None, Saturday, 26 January 2013 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, God, I can only imagine.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 January 2013 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

A long time ago, in a galaxy far away ... that may be heaven ...

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 January 2013 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

the idea that the Star Trek reboot cleared away decades of crust is odd given that the movie is nothing but callbacks and references to even the the lowliest of canon details, and I doubt that he would be prevented from doing the same with Star Wars.

Philip Nunez, Saturday, 26 January 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

Who cares really. We live in an era of po-mo fan-fiction cinema. No going back.

fiscal cliff huxtable (latebloomer), Saturday, 26 January 2013 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

Star Trek movie was some bullshit imo, but its approach almost inherently is better suited to Trek than SW. the Abrams approach to casting and storytelling will probably result in a bunch of vacant Hayden Christensen types milling around unsubtly referencing the original trilogy.

some dude, Saturday, 26 January 2013 17:00 (eleven years ago) link

it'd be almost impossible not to improve on Christensen

Number None, Saturday, 26 January 2013 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

I dunno -- Star Wars seems a lot more amenable to endless referencing given its samurai movie pedigree and the "rhyming" thing.

Philip Nunez, Saturday, 26 January 2013 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

to me the Lucas prequels were at least interesting as a deterioration of the original creator's sensibilities, like listening to a really shitty later Prince album. Abrams pilots his projects like an effective technician and may do something modern and mildly clever, but at the end of the day is a guy whose imagination could never create a Star Wars or Star Trek or Mission Impossible of his own.

some dude, Saturday, 26 January 2013 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

^^^ otm x1000

If it were up to you we'd all be eating tea and strumpets. (WilliamC), Saturday, 26 January 2013 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

But he's not being asked to make a new thing. He's the new manager of a franchise/brand, which is what he is perfectly suited for.

fiscal cliff huxtable (latebloomer), Saturday, 26 January 2013 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

I think he also has the sense to not, say, create a character like Dexter Jettster. Can you guys think of the worst/cheesiest thing he's come up with? I haven't seen "Lost" or most of his movies. Star Trek was great tho.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 26 January 2013 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

Star Trek was a great Star Wars movie. Maybe this next Star Wars movie will be a great Star Trek movie?

Philip Nunez, Saturday, 26 January 2013 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

I would see a muppet version of this movie

© all the feelings (Austerity Ponies), Saturday, 26 January 2013 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

I agree 1000% with some dude as well.

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 26 January 2013 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

Well - except for the ST movie being bullshit. I enjoyed it but yeah - pretty much the epitome of breezy corporate filmmaking.

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 26 January 2013 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

to me the Lucas prequels were at least interesting as a deterioration of the original creator's sensibilities, like listening to a really shitty later Prince album. Abrams pilots his projects like an effective technician and may do something modern and mildly clever, but at the end of the day is a guy whose imagination could never create a Star Wars or Star Trek or Mission Impossible of his own.

― some dude, Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:01 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'll take that over whatever it was that george lucas did, which imo wasn't just like, a watered-down version of when he was good... its like at least on a bad prince album you can be reasonably sure the musicianship will be super tight etc...

zero dark (s1ocki), Saturday, 26 January 2013 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

Wonder how much Disney would have to pay Fox to license the fanfare for use before the opening crawl?

― Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.)

Shit, hadn't considered this! It's a really important part of the theme tune.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 27 January 2013 08:20 (eleven years ago) link

Oh shit. I never thought about that!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 27 January 2013 08:22 (eleven years ago) link

Instead of the fanfare they'll just have a Star Destroyer going NNNNNNNRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNN over the top of the camera then instead of the SW theme Abrams will play something by the Beastie Boys.

Prisoner: Cell Block J/K (snoball), Sunday, 27 January 2013 08:50 (eleven years ago) link

Then they issue a flood warning on account of all the fanboy tears.

Prisoner: Cell Block J/K (snoball), Sunday, 27 January 2013 09:45 (eleven years ago) link

Eh, ownership is pretty loose these days. I mean, Disney owns Marvel, but it's Universal that has the Hulk and Spider-Man rides. And Harry Potter, which is of course a Warner Bros. property. If anyone's worried about the fanboy shit, just wait until the Bad Robot logo shows up before the crawl.

Hey, maybe the crawl can just recount the history of the property. "And then the mighty Lucasfilm sold its rights to Disney, but while the merger went through, some preferred the way things used to be, and proved willing to fight for it. A galactic alliance of nerds, fanboys and dorks, calmed by the recruitment of General J. J. Abrams, was soon up in arms about the fate of the Fox fanfare, a battle whose results still hang in the balance ..."

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 January 2013 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

lol

some dude, Sunday, 27 January 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

Still better and more bloodstirring than the TPM opening crawl.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 27 January 2013 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

Why couldn't they license it?

Philip Nunez, Sunday, 27 January 2013 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

because that would be silly

zero dark (s1ocki), Sunday, 27 January 2013 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

u think disney is going to pay $4billion for something and then use another company's branding

zero dark (s1ocki), Sunday, 27 January 2013 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe they can license just the fanfare and have it playing off in the distance over a shot of a starfield or something before the "A long time ago" pops up.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 27 January 2013 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

the something they paid for was branding, so why not?

Philip Nunez, Sunday, 27 January 2013 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

Clearly the solution is to crowdsource/Kickstarter the licensing fee to use the old Fox fanfare.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 January 2013 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

they can just use the flute edition https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGwwJEE7k48

乒乓, Sunday, 27 January 2013 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

the something they paid for was branding, so why not?

― Philip Nunez, Sunday, January 27, 2013 1:43 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

are you just trolling me at this point or

zero dark (s1ocki), Monday, 28 January 2013 02:53 (eleven years ago) link

As long as it dips to blackness and silence before the John Williams score begins, we will all survive.

Shall we take bets on original cast cameos?

Nate Carson, Monday, 28 January 2013 03:15 (eleven years ago) link

I hear Salacious Crumb is in talks

fiscal cliff huxtable (latebloomer), Monday, 28 January 2013 03:17 (eleven years ago) link

are han/leia's kids supposed to be characters in this?

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 28 January 2013 03:18 (eleven years ago) link

Sony is paying Disney now to use a Marvel intro for Spider-Man. So whats the big deal about paying to use the fox fanfare?
Btw paramount's fanfare always sounded suspiciously like the opening to Star Wars which was always disconcerting to hear after every episode of tng.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 28 January 2013 03:20 (eleven years ago) link

as above, the only one I'm really rooting for is Ben Burtt as Artoo. Wouldn't object to a bearded and be-robed Hamill, which would be probably the least-forced thing if the new movies are about Jedi, since Luke presumably is the one founding the new jedi order even if nothing whatsoever of the EU is used as a source. Would think Ford is less likely than Hamill/Fisher to participate without Lucas?

James Earl Jones cameo as an anthropomorphic leonine alien.

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Monday, 28 January 2013 03:22 (eleven years ago) link

seems hard to discount the possibility of ghost-Yoda as well

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Monday, 28 January 2013 03:23 (eleven years ago) link

Disney got ILM and Skywalker Sound in the deal so they will presumably be making cameos as the VFX and sound design outfits

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Monday, 28 January 2013 03:25 (eleven years ago) link

Would think Ford is less likely than Hamill/Fisher to participate without Lucas?

see link in the OP!!

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 28 January 2013 03:25 (eleven years ago) link

cgi alec guinness as ghost-obi wan. involved in capers with ghost-jar jar.

Bill Goldberg Variations (Merdeyeux), Monday, 28 January 2013 03:26 (eleven years ago) link

I could see JJ throwing in someone yelling "It's a trap!" and other SW memeworthy references.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 28 January 2013 05:41 (eleven years ago) link

I hope the Jedi academy isn't in some sparkling faceless CGI city but some ancient temple overgrown w crazy vines and ancient carvings.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 28 January 2013 05:45 (eleven years ago) link

luke's son listening to yub nub on his lightradio

abanana, Monday, 28 January 2013 05:45 (eleven years ago) link

u think disney is going to pay $4billion for something and then use another company's branding

― zero dark (s1ocki), 27. tammikuuta 2013 20:32

Use the Disney magic castle intro, but at the end the camera pans to the night sky, which becomes a field of stars + get John Williams write a new bridge called "When You Wish Upon a Star Wars" = problem solved.

Tuomas, Monday, 28 January 2013 13:06 (eleven years ago) link

What is the rhyming thing Philip Nunez mentions above?

cloacachella (how's life), Monday, 28 January 2013 13:17 (eleven years ago) link

nerdcore rappers

bleh (latebloomer), Monday, 28 January 2013 13:20 (eleven years ago) link

hl: clip of George Lucas justifying one of the various examples of pointless callback/recycling of story elements with less impact in the prequels: ''See, it's like poetry, they rhyme.'' Referred to frequently in the long Redlettermedia reviews of the prequels as evidence of GL's creative bankruptcy. See the ''crimes of george lucas'' thread for more.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 28 January 2013 13:49 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxU2eqZtYmc

abanana, Monday, 28 January 2013 13:56 (eleven years ago) link

It does lead to an interesting question that I'll be curious to see how Abrams addresses it, though, namely: What constitutes "a Star Wars movie?"

With the Trek property, he could basically do whatever he wanted because it was explicitly a reboot and because there isn't so much formalized structure to "a Star Trek movie." But for Star Wars, there's a very formal (ritualistic) structure to the opening few moments. I have to assume that Disney wants to stick with that, but I guess we'll see.

Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Monday, 28 January 2013 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

All further SW opening credits to be done like Enter the Void.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 January 2013 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

Would pay to see that, as long as the movie ended after the credits.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 January 2013 14:52 (eleven years ago) link

So Han Solo, Yoda and Boba Fett solo movies as well as SW VII, VIII, and IX all in a span of 6 years? I guess "market saturation" is a non-word?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:13 (eleven years ago) link

Doesn't appear to be a problem for the Marvel franchise.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:47 (eleven years ago) link

Not saying I think its a good idea, but all of the Avengers spin-offs from the last three years or so have done well enough to at least justify their existence.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:48 (eleven years ago) link

not quite the same. All the Marvel movies were leading up to the Avengers, these Star Wars solo films don't have any reason to exist other than fan service/money

Number None, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:51 (eleven years ago) link

plus they're prequels. And we know how that goes

Number None, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:53 (eleven years ago) link

Number None otm - Avengers thing is totally unique actually

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:54 (eleven years ago) link

spinoffs FIRST, ensemble movie last

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:54 (eleven years ago) link

Marvel characters have existed as self-sustained characters for decades. Dudes like Yoda and Han Solo have only ever been seen in the Star Wars context. They haven't had their own parallel solo titles since the 60s or whatever.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:55 (eleven years ago) link

lol as if the whole avengers thing isn't one THOUSAND percent fan service

zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:56 (eleven years ago) link

/ money

zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:56 (eleven years ago) link

This would be like giving Kermit the Frog or Miss Piggy (in more ways than one) their own solo spin-offs.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:56 (eleven years ago) link

in other words UTTERLY UNTHINKABLE

zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:57 (eleven years ago) link

Surprised it hasn't been done yet!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:58 (eleven years ago) link

wait til you guys hear about the Jabba the Hut and Darth Maul movies

Number None, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:58 (eleven years ago) link

Heard the first spin-off will be Han/Yoda fan fic. "Use the force," etc.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:58 (eleven years ago) link

Would totally watch a Jabba sit-com.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:59 (eleven years ago) link

Jabba of the House.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:59 (eleven years ago) link

Jabba the House.
Jabba's World
Home is Where the Hut Is.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 February 2013 00:00 (eleven years ago) link

Surprised it hasn't been done yet!

Star Wars Holiday Special was more or less a solo spin-off for Chewbacca.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 February 2013 00:10 (eleven years ago) link

30 'lacc?

schwantz, Thursday, 7 February 2013 00:10 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAEV_sLEglI

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Thursday, 7 February 2013 00:11 (eleven years ago) link

Avengers made crazy money ($1.5 billion in ticket sales) and most or all of the character movies made money too. I'm not surprised they're trying to do it again. This high-concept kiddie shit is even more profitable now that over half of the world population can afford to see movies.

abanana, Thursday, 7 February 2013 00:27 (eleven years ago) link

It's kind of funny all this stuff happening, it's basically all stuff GL was saying right after the first movie came out. Do prequels, do sequels, do movies that follow one or two characters, get different directors to put their own spin on it, etc. All that stuff pretty much should have happened right from "Empire". My guess is "Holiday Special" was such a horror that it scared him into ever letting go of the franchise again. Or at least until 2012.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 February 2013 00:46 (eleven years ago) link

No Sarlacc spin-off, no credibili ... oh, wait.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 February 2013 01:04 (eleven years ago) link

We need a Max Rebo Band movie that follows them as they tour the dives - and hives of scum and villainy - of the universe.

DavidM, Thursday, 7 February 2013 12:18 (eleven years ago) link

We need a 3-D concert movie.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 February 2013 12:56 (eleven years ago) link

http://theblueraft.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/lips.jpg

how's life, Thursday, 7 February 2013 13:17 (eleven years ago) link

the originals basically ARE 3d concert movies at this point.

zero dark (s1ocki), Thursday, 7 February 2013 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not sure if you know this, but in the Star Wars "extended universe", i.e. SW comic books/novels/video games, there have already been numerous solo stories for Han Solo, Yoda, and Boba Fett... And I'm almost certain Jabba and Dart Maul have had ones too. So it't not like this is some shocking new development.

Tuomas, Friday, 8 February 2013 08:42 (eleven years ago) link

It's shocking to fans who don't give a shit about the comic books / novels / video games, which is most of them.

Also the Jabba and Darth Maul films are a joke.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 8 February 2013 09:07 (eleven years ago) link

so what will become of "G-level canon" now that a main-sequence movie sans G is going to come out?

Women, Fire, and Dangerous Zings (silby), Friday, 8 February 2013 09:17 (eleven years ago) link

It's shocking to fans who don't give a shit about the comic books / novels / video games, which is most of them.

Is it really? Lots and lots of big fiction franchises have done spinoffs based on popular characters, why would it be shocking or weird that SW has done that too?

And I got it that Jabba and Darth Maul movies were a joke, my point was just that it isn't a very good joke, since spin-offs about them most likely already exist.

Tuomas, Friday, 8 February 2013 10:25 (eleven years ago) link

Yes, but most fiction franchises that have done this (I'm curious as to which ones you mean, though) don't have a history of grossing half a billion dollars per instance*

*The Clone Wars is admittedly a bit of an exception here, more on the lines of the Ewoks films.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 8 February 2013 10:46 (eleven years ago) link

(I'm curious as to which ones you mean, though)

Superman, Batman, X-Men, Indiana Jones (if you count Young Indy as a separate character from Old Indy), Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Friends, The Mummy, , etc etc. The only really big fiction franchise I can't think of that has (AFAIK) no spin-offs whatsoever is Lord of The Rings, and I assume that's because Tolkien's estate forbids to create any new spin-offs that aren't based on his original writings.

And yeah, the Ewoks movies are actually a good example of Star Wars already having done this.

Tuomas, Friday, 8 February 2013 10:57 (eleven years ago) link

Though I guess LoTR RPGs and computer games are technically "new fiction" based on Tolkien. But AFAIK there no official LoTR movies, TV series, comics, etc that wouldn't be based on Tolkien's own material.

Tuomas, Friday, 8 February 2013 11:00 (eleven years ago) link

"there are no official"

Tuomas, Friday, 8 February 2013 11:00 (eleven years ago) link

afaik there's no spinoffs of The Godfather

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 8 February 2013 11:15 (eleven years ago) link

There's a videogame at least, but I think that follows the plot of the movie?

Tuomas, Friday, 8 February 2013 11:30 (eleven years ago) link

It's shocking to fans who don't give a shit about the comic books / novels / video games, which is most of them.

Little bit of question-begging going on w/this statement.

Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Friday, 8 February 2013 11:48 (eleven years ago) link

There are a lot of solo Star Wars spin-offs on my blog. Also, the characters have sex with each other a lot.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 February 2013 12:43 (eleven years ago) link

Mark Hamill is awesome:

They're talking to us. George [Lucas] wanted to know whether we'd be interested. He did say that if we didn't want to do it, they wouldn't cast another actor in our parts – they would write us out. … I can tell you right away that we haven't signed any contracts. We're in the stage where they want us to go in and meet with Michael Arndt, who is the writer, and Kathleen Kennedy, who is going to run Lucasfilm. Both have had meetings set that were postponed — on their end, not mine. They're more busy than I am. . . .

When I found out [while making the original trilogy] that ultimate good news/bad news joke – the good news is there's a real attractive, hot girl in the universe; the bad news is she's your sister – I thought, 'Well, I'm going to wind up like Sir Alec [Guinness]. I'm going to be a lonely old hermit living out in some kind of desert igloo with a couple of robots . . .

I said to George that I wanted to go back to the way it was, in the sense that ours was much more carefree and lighthearted and humorous – in my opinion, anyway. And another thing I'd want to make sure of is are we going to have the whole gang back? Is Carrie and Harrison and Billy Dee and Tony Daniels, everybody that's around from the original [returning]? I want to make sure that everybody's on board here, rather than just one...

I hope they find the right balance of CGI with practical effects. I love props, I love models, miniatures, matte paintings — I'm sort of old school. I think if you go too far in the direction of CGI it winds up looking like just a giant a video game, and that's unfortunate. … If they listen to me at all, it'll be, 'Lighten up and go retro with the way it looks.

this is called money bags (Phil D.), Thursday, 21 February 2013 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

<3

zero dark (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 February 2013 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

Let him direct, shit

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 21 February 2013 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

otm

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 February 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

he would know: http://youtu.be/zyTsGx1q1EQ?t=4m20s

abanana, Thursday, 21 February 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

Well here we go

http://mashable.com/2013/03/06/carrie-fisher-princess-leia/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 13:20 (eleven years ago) link

would be rad if the originals were the actual stars of this movie

zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 13:36 (eleven years ago) link

Really they just should re-release episode IV as episode VII. It would rhyme, like poetry.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

Old Harrison Ford starring in a late sequel with a flame from the first movie. What's the worst that could happen?

No, not sinister (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

it's basically gonna be "amour" with mark hamill playing the isabelle huppert character

zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

empty posturing from a loathsome senator? tell me more

Donkamole Marvin (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

lol wrong thread sorry

Donkamole Marvin (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

well theoretically you could be talking about palpatine

zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

maybe an element of the 'rise and fall of jar jar binks' spinoff movie.

hot young stalin (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:52 (eleven years ago) link

glad these characters are coming back. I've seen more star wars movies in teh past two weeks than I care to admit (all of them, multiple times, thanks to my kid). back to back with the originals its obvious how terrible the prequels are, muddled plots, no humor, heavy heavy heavy and long. Obv cast is too old to do the full action thing here but I'm sure Abrams will find the right balance.

akm, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 23:00 (eleven years ago) link

lmao shakey

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 23:02 (eleven years ago) link

We need a Max Rebo Band movie that follows them as they tour the dives - and hives of scum and villainy - of the universe.

― DavidM, Thursday, February 7, 2013 12:18 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'd watch that before i'd watch a "young han solo" movie 4 sure

The Mini-Mamas and the Mini-Papas (latebloomer), Thursday, 7 March 2013 01:52 (eleven years ago) link

I assumed Jabba would be CGI

calstars, Thursday, 7 March 2013 02:54 (eleven years ago) link

if this film is as good as IJ & KCrystal Skull, count yr blessings.

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 March 2013 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

"I mostly say, ‘You can’t do this. You can do that,’ ” Lucas says. “You know, ‘The cars don’t have wheels. They fly with antigravity.’ There’s a million little pieces. Or I can say, ‘He doesn’t have the power to do that, or he has to do this.’ I know all that stuff.”

Billionaire entrepreneur or your know-it-all best friend from 7th grade?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 8 March 2013 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

I really like how he trolled Disney w 'The final trilogy is all planned out' for one last epic troll probably worth millions of dollars.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 8 March 2013 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

xxpost this is why no-one invites you to their birthday parties anymore, George

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 March 2013 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

“I don’t want to overcommercialize or overhype this,” he says. “It’s my job to prevent that.”

Says the president of Disney, which just bought Star Wars.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 8 March 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

Love this bit, about another guy:

The transaction gave Disney a new source of hit movies. Jobs also became a Disney board member and its largest shareholder. Periodically he would call Iger to say, “Hey, Bob, I saw the movie you just released last night, and it sucked,” Iger recalls.

Also, that Pablo Hidalgo fellow mentioned early on is a friend of a friend -- hope I can chat with him sometime about all that!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 March 2013 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

apparently Lucas would come around Lucasarts when they were working on Star Wars games and provide random input. made up example: they'd be working on a level and he'd say "well you know Darth Vader could just fly to get himself out of trouble, right?"

"what?"

"sure he's a master of the force, of course he can fly."

of course this would break canon in a bunch of ways ... so he'd leave and the designers would pretend it never happened.

eris bueller (lukas), Friday, 8 March 2013 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

I've already told the story about Lucas bringing his son to the screenings of the dailies for Phantom Menace right

Donkamole Marvin (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 March 2013 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

Yup.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 March 2013 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

I heard his questions about utility data were incorporated throughout.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 March 2013 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

haha

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 March 2013 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

Lucas interjecting his stupid nonsense all over the place all goes back to his feeling thoroughly burned at the initial industry and critical reception of Star Wars - everyone told him how stupid it was and how wrong he was and since he proved them all wrong that one time, he automatically discounts any and all criticism. That, and he's surrounded by people who are complete sycophants.

Donkamole Marvin (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 March 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

Lucas bringing his son to dailies? Is that in another thread?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 8 March 2013 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, those Best Picture, Best Director and Best Original Screenplay Oscar nominations musta really stuck in his craw. I'd be fucking pissed.

ARE YOU HIRING A NANNY OR A SHAMAN (Phil D.), Friday, 8 March 2013 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

I'm talking more about the resistance he got to getting it made, before it was such a huge industry-changing hit. of course everyone was on his dick after that

Donkamole Marvin (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 March 2013 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

Of course.

ARE YOU HIRING A NANNY OR A SHAMAN (Phil D.), Friday, 8 March 2013 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

just a big ol' dickload of everybody

No, not sinister (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 8 March 2013 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

I would like to break a cannon over the head of anyone saying "break canon" in my presence.

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 March 2013 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

they shd def sneak Jerry Lewis in as a Jedi master

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 March 2013 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

i heard a story from some people who worked on a pretty high profile...ancillary star wars entertainment product ....

anyway they heard word that lucas was very excited about the project and was, in fact, so excited about it that he had come up with a brand new character expressly for this project that would become part of the official star wars canon, etc.

obviously everyone was really excited.

the day came for lucas to meet with them. lucas coming to their offices was basically like the fuckin' pope or president coming, huge deal, big preparation, everyone's buzzing around etc etc

so they finally sit down with lucas in the conference room, and he starts by saying how impressed he was, how he wanted this product to be a real core part of star wars lore, blah blah blah...

then he says, "So the character I've created for the [project] is..."

*everyone leans forward, anticipating with bated breath*

"....Darth...Icky"

so they're like, "Darth...Icky"

and he's like, "yes, Darth Icky - I-C-K-Y" and begins to explain the character

so then after they were all freaking out like how the fuck are we gonna write around this retarded character etc, eventually they just drug their feet on it for long enough that lucas had moved on to his next brilliant idea and forgot about it and the public never knew of Darth Icky.

http://twitter.com/crushingbort/status/309798688484622337/photo/1

乒乓, Friday, 8 March 2013 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/vg1VR7w.png

乒乓, Friday, 8 March 2013 22:17 (eleven years ago) link

no morbs otm - i think depalma and scorsese expressed their regrets when he screened it for them, iirc the only one who didn't see a disaster was (shocker) spielberg who told him it was going to be a huge huge hit. studio obv didn't have much faith in it either since they gave him all the rights for waiving his director's fee right?

balls, Friday, 8 March 2013 22:17 (eleven years ago) link

lol dayo

balls, Friday, 8 March 2013 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

let's stay focused here

Darth Icky (DJP), Friday, 8 March 2013 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

hahaha Darth Barf and Darth Grody were taken already ;_;

uh morbs said what now?

Donkamole Marvin (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 March 2013 22:21 (eleven years ago) link

"Oh no, it's Darth Ewwww!"

Darth Icky (DJP), Friday, 8 March 2013 22:21 (eleven years ago) link

Darth Grody and Darth Gag Me With a Spoon

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 March 2013 22:23 (eleven years ago) link

There's already a General Grievous; can we expect the eventual appearance of Commander Heinous?

Darth Icky (DJP), Friday, 8 March 2013 22:24 (eleven years ago) link

About 39 results (0.25 seconds)
Did you mean: "darth mickey"

it's all coming together

Clay, Friday, 8 March 2013 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

admiral able

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 8 March 2013 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

commander anus

乒乓, Friday, 8 March 2013 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

apparently the time I spent during The Phantom Menace calling Darth Maul "Darth Yuckmouth" put me closer to the Lucas mindset than I realized

Darth Icky (DJP), Friday, 8 March 2013 22:27 (eleven years ago) link

darth vadge

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 March 2013 22:27 (eleven years ago) link

darth jar jar, last vote cast to terminate the republic

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 8 March 2013 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

haha uh freudian slip

balls, Friday, 8 March 2013 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

darth madge

how's life, Friday, 8 March 2013 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

Emperor Cos Dashit reporting for duty from an early draft of Star Wars.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 8 March 2013 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

grand snot merkin

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 March 2013 23:16 (eleven years ago) link

jabba the record critic

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 8 March 2013 23:26 (eleven years ago) link

You've gone too far.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 March 2013 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

he's the white sheep of the hutt family

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 8 March 2013 23:35 (eleven years ago) link

I've heard stories about him at Lucasarts, like getting personally interested in the development of Force Unleashed 2 for some reason, before getting bored and wandering off for something off.

Suffice it to say that all reports of the game were that it suuuuuuucked, to the point of cloning the dead protagonist of the previous game because they could come up with a better idea

The New Jack Mormons! (kingfish), Saturday, 9 March 2013 00:12 (eleven years ago) link

Looks like Episode VII plans just borked the most popular current property, after its season just ended on a major cliffhanger: http://starwars.com/news/a-new-direction-for-lucasfilm-animation.html

As we enter into an exciting new era focused on the next Star Wars trilogy, Lucasfilm has decided to pursue a new direction in animated programming. We are exploring a whole new Star Wars series set in a time period previously untouched in Star Wars films or television programming. You can expect more details in the months to come.

As part of this shift, we have also made some key decisions affecting Star Wars: The Clone Wars and Star Wars Detours.

After five highly successful and critically acclaimed seasons of Star Wars: The Clone Wars, we feel the time has come to wind down the series. While the studio is no longer producing new episodes for Cartoon Network, we're continuing production on new Clone Wars story arcs that promise to be some of the most thrilling adventures ever seen. Stay tuned for more information on where fans can soon find this bonus content. In the video below, Supervising Director Dave Filoni offers a peek of what is to come in Star Wars: The Clone Wars.

At Star Wars Celebration VI last year, George Lucas gave fans a glimpse at the animated comedy series Star Wars Detours from Seth Green, Matthew Senreich, and Todd Grimes. Detours was conceived and produced before we decided to move forward with the new Star Wars trilogy, and in the wake of that decision, Lucasfilm has reconsidered whether launching an animated comedy prior to the launch of Episode VII makes sense. As a result, we've decided to postpone the release of Detours until a later date.

We are incredibly proud of the teams at Lucasfilm Animation for creating some of the most amazing animation ever produced for TV. Keep checking StarWars.com for new developments on these and future projects.

ARE YOU HIRING A NANNY OR A SHAMAN (Phil D.), Monday, 11 March 2013 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

the animated comedy series star wars detours might not happen?! *weeps*

zero dark (s1ocki), Monday, 11 March 2013 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

BOOOOOOOOO!!!!

No, i thought that meant Clone Wars was being eliminated (sad) in favor of focusing on sub-Family Guy schtick.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 11 March 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

Phil, the rest of that core paragraph indicates more episodes are coming! Probably just means they'll be on Disney TV instead, obv.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 March 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

I have a feeling they'll be online-only, which, ugh. Right now "Clone Wars" is the golden goose, and I hate to think they're killing it prematurely.

ARE YOU HIRING A NANNY OR A SHAMAN (Phil D.), Monday, 11 March 2013 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

I just thought, it would be so funny if Star Wars 7 opened with the Emperor falling down the shaft and then like using the force to float safely to the ground. He walks away cackling, the villain for the new trilogy is found, and the entire legacy of the first 6 movies is destroyed.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 15 March 2013 00:04 (eleven years ago) link

the emperor tears off "his" mask, and "he" is yoko

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 15 March 2013 01:09 (eleven years ago) link

I just thought, it would be so funny if Star Wars 7 opened with the Emperor falling down the shaft and then like using the force to float safely to the ground. He walks away cackling, the villain for the new trilogy is found, and the entire legacy of the first 6 movies is destroyed.

In one of the comic book sequels, it's revealed the Emperor has clone bodies he can use if his current body gets killed, and he simply comes back as a clone. AFAIK this story is still considered canon, but whatever will happen in SW7 will probably contradict it. It'd be pretty funny if they used that story in the movie, though.

Tuomas, Friday, 15 March 2013 09:46 (eleven years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Empire_I

With the release of the prequels and the revelation that Anakin Skywalker was destined to bring balance to the Force by destroying the Sith, Dark Empire has been criticized for contradicting the prophecy of the Chosen One and Anakin's killing of Palpatine. However, Tom Veitch could hardly have known what George Lucas had planned for the prequels, which were not made for another seven years.

Other fans have criticized the resurrection of the Star Wars saga's main antagonist.

Veitch has also been criticized for having many pivotal events occur within a single panel or entirely off-panel, which many fans found to be jarring.

I've read this series, and last comment is very apt, the plot is pretty awful to follow. For some reason it's still considered one of the best SW comics though.

Tuomas, Friday, 15 March 2013 09:50 (eleven years ago) link

Part of that might be because it came out at a time when people were jonesing for anything SW (right around the time of the Timothy Zahn novels). At least 12 yr old me was, I remember being pretty excited about it.

los blue jeans, Saturday, 16 March 2013 00:37 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

friend wrote this sketch (he's also the dude in the robe). I enjoyed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0vs9gYydo&feature=player_embedded

Cunga, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

try this again: http://youtu.be/7T0vs9gYydo

Cunga, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

How do you embed YTs onto ilx these days?

DavidM, Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

Take the s out of HTTPS then repost the url

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

Neither youtu.be or https links work. With the https ones you just take out the s. Not sure if removing the period is enough for the other one, but let's see
http://youtube/7T0vs9gYydo

Fetchboy, Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BBhNkywMJY

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 April 2013 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

the part about chewbacca's severed head made me lose my mind

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 18 April 2013 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

that was a true tour de force

you

might

say

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 18 April 2013 23:00 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://i.imgur.com/hYKzpqD.jpg

gr8080, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link

That seems a bit off... You'd think real right-wingers would prefer Star Wars (violent, religious mavericks overthrow a highly centralized federal government) over Star Trek (atheist representatives of an intergalactic UN try to solve local problems by peaceful means).

Tuomas, Thursday, 16 May 2013 07:10 (ten years ago) link

that cartoon is not a political satire, it is about how jj abrams is a pseudy jerkface

j., Thursday, 16 May 2013 07:17 (ten years ago) link

I remember people posting earlier cartoons in the same series, and they were all parodies of right-wing political cartoons... That's why you have crying Lady Liberty in it, she appears in all of them.

Tuomas, Thursday, 16 May 2013 07:36 (ten years ago) link

You are quite literal Tuomas

albvivertine, Thursday, 16 May 2013 07:45 (ten years ago) link

and why should america not cry, freedom not weep, when the federation has been betrayed

j., Thursday, 16 May 2013 07:47 (ten years ago) link

going a bit far to say the ST guys are explicitly 'atheist' -- kirk, spock and bones don't react with total scorn to the idea of there being a god in ST V -- and the force seems more like a vague philosophy than an actual religion.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 16 May 2013 07:52 (ten years ago) link

It's specifically said to be a religion in the first movie! And the way the members of the Rebellion say "May the Force be with you!" to each other implies a shared belief in a higher power, not just a "vague philosophy".

As for ST V, I'd say is a bit of anomaly, generally the protagonists in various Star Trek operate from an atheist (or at least agnostic) point of view.

Tuomas, Thursday, 16 May 2013 07:59 (ten years ago) link

Irrational right wing nutjobs. Who would have thought it?

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 16 May 2013 08:52 (ten years ago) link

tuomas maybe it's just best to imagine that the fake cartoonist is just a trekkie in this case

gr8080, Thursday, 16 May 2013 10:22 (ten years ago) link

I remember people posting earlier cartoons in the same series, and they were all parodies of right-wing political cartoons... That's why you have crying Lady Liberty in it, she appears in all of them.

― Tuomas, Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:36 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

there's two types of kelly cartoons, ones parodying right wing political cartoons, and ones that develop the Kelly Mythos

turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 16 May 2013 11:57 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/4EUdKRl.jpg

turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 16 May 2013 11:59 (ten years ago) link

lol otm

gr8080, Thursday, 16 May 2013 12:55 (ten years ago) link

Trek cartoon also reminds me of how the Mallard Fillmore dude will just go off on pet topics for weeks at a time, most famously his quixotic campaign to save 'Veronica Mars' from cancellation.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link

Ooof. Look on the bright side, NO KELLY.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link

So meantime:

http://www.deadline.com/2013/05/star-wars-rebels/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 20 May 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link

Sourced from the Sun so grain of salt and then some but...

http://www.nme.com/news/florence-and-the-machine/70620

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 1 June 2013 13:24 (ten years ago) link

not entirely opposed to this, I like her singing okay and I have to say it's in the spirit of the original movies to build the cast out of largely untried actors in the lead roles. If they start announcing gracefully aged British character actors for the secondary parts I'll be really impressed. (But please no Alan Rickman as Darth Severus.)

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 1 June 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link

Yeah she might be a terrific actor for all I know, whatevs. Basically I'm approaching these new films with interest and an open mind. If they turn out to be good then bonus, if they're shit then it's not like the franchise hasn't been already debased.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 1 June 2013 15:20 (ten years ago) link

How about if they cast Justin Lee Collins as Jar-Jar Binks' son?

go cray cray on my lobster soufflé (snoball), Saturday, 1 June 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link

not entirely opposed to this, I like her singing okay and I have to say it's in the spirit of the original movies to build the cast out of largely untried actors in the lead roles. If they start announcing gracefully aged British character actors for the secondary parts I'll be really impressed. (But please no Alan Rickman as Darth Severus.)

― Doctor Casino, Saturday, June 1, 2013 10:39 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

feel like this is going to seem weird in a post harry potter world

we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Saturday, 1 June 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link

never forget

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Lloyd

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 1 June 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link

i feel like this will be j.j. abrams's waterloo

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 1 June 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link

The Napoleon kind or the ABBA kind?

Huston we got chicken lol (Phil D.), Saturday, 1 June 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link

don't complain about florence, it could have easily been amanda palmer

christmas candy bar (al leong), Saturday, 1 June 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link

The Napoleon kind or the ABBA kind?

― Huston we got chicken lol (Phil D.), Saturday, June 1, 2013 1:50 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

both.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 1 June 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link

Looks like the Jake Lloyd's screen role was playing a character called J.J.

Think about it.

hewing to the status quo with great zealotry (DavidM), Saturday, 1 June 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link

*first screen role, that is

hewing to the status quo with great zealotry (DavidM), Saturday, 1 June 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link

I do not like the new Storm Trooper costumes (link because pic is large):

http://media.dallasobserver.com/8811062.87.jpg

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 1 June 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link

It's all about merchandising, duh.

eris bueller (lukas), Saturday, 1 June 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link

yknow we improved that Ewok song with the special edition, but what it's still really missing is a sick drop.

Theodor Adorbsno (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 1 June 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Prepare your headshots:

A young man aged between 20 and 25, witty and smart, fit but not classically handsome,

Man in late twenties, also fit, but this one is handsome and confident.

Late teenage girl, independent, good sense of humour, also… physically fit .

Second young female, also late teens, tough, smart and physically fit.

Man in his forties, obviously physically fit, this one is a military type.

A man of around thirty or so, this one is an intellectual type.

Finally, a guy aged around seventy, strong opinions and tough.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link

Finally, a guy aged around seventy, strong opinions and tough.

I can't wait to see Emperor Cos Dashit finally realized on the big screen.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link

it's cool that Reel 2 Real is writing the casting calls for this

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link

So they're going with a cast primarily composed of good-looking young people, you say...

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link

Finally, a guy aged around seventy, strong opinions and tough.

crazy that they're actually having a casting session for han solo

we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link

obviously physically fit

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 20:12 (ten years ago) link

lol s1ocki i thought the same thing

balls, Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:10 (ten years ago) link

maybe they are going for an ensemble like this!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EVptUKxiVQY/TsLvd7ClEGI/AAAAAAAAF7Y/Sr2A5iJ4jI4/s1600/starship%2Btroopers%2Bmovie.jpg

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:18 (ten years ago) link

god i love that movie

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:28 (ten years ago) link

what do you mean "like this"? There's your cast.

doogie-doogie howser

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 20 June 2013 05:16 (ten years ago) link

Finally, a guy aged around seventy, strong opinions and tough.

So, this maybe implies Ford won't return for this movie, right? I don't think they'd have a third old mentor figure besides Luke and Han... Unless the old dude is the bad guy.

Tuomas, Thursday, 20 June 2013 06:23 (ten years ago) link

who knows, it could be like, the hero(ine)'s dad or something

we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Thursday, 20 June 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link

Finally, a guy aged around seventy, strong opinions and tough.

Calling it now. It's the "That's so wizard, Annie" guy.

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 20 June 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link

I'm not gonna lie to you, there's already an "Expanded Universe" novel, Tatooine Ghost, in which that dude plays a major role:

. . . Han and Leia embark on a journey through Tatooine in order to retrieve the art piece, battling the Imperial forces and Tusken Raiders with the help of Jawas and a Squib trio, Emala, Sligh and Grees. During their voyage, Leia finds out more about her late father's past, and runs into Anakin's old friend, Kitster Banai, who reveals to her what her father was like before he left Tatooine under the guidance of the late Qui-Gon Jinn. Leia also retrieves a holojournal recorded by Shmi, revealing details of her life in between Anakin's departure from Tatooine to his return to his home planet. After Leia saves Han from being dehydrated and lost in Tatooine's vast, dry desert, it is implied that they sleep together, which would indicate that this tryst was what led to the conception of their children, Jaina and Jacen.

This amigurumi Jamaican octopus is ready to chill with you (Phil D.), Thursday, 20 June 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link

Not surprised in the slightest.

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 20 June 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link

Thank you for not judging me for knowing about it.

This amigurumi Jamaican octopus is ready to chill with you (Phil D.), Thursday, 20 June 2013 15:50 (ten years ago) link

For I am deeply ashamed.

This amigurumi Jamaican octopus is ready to chill with you (Phil D.), Thursday, 20 June 2013 15:50 (ten years ago) link

we judged you long ago for far less, lol :)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 June 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link

;_;

This amigurumi Jamaican octopus is ready to chill with you (Phil D.), Thursday, 20 June 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link

A young man aged between 20 and 25, witty and smart, fit but not classically handsome,
Man in late twenties, also fit, but this one is handsome and confident.
And Captain Lando Tucker, a dedicated young man with no characteristics.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 20 June 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link

to what extent is Lucas involved this time round?

piscesx, Thursday, 20 June 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link

holding out hope for Darth Icky

DJP, Thursday, 20 June 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link

Thank you for not judging me for knowing about it.
I was being charitable and assumed you Googled it.

For I am deeply ashamed.
As you should be.

to what extent is Lucas involved this time round?
IIRC, he may have handed off an outline. Other than that, not at all. He sold his toys and went home.

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 20 June 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link

ah right thanks.

piscesx, Thursday, 20 June 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link

only gonna see this if billy dee and harrison are in it, maybe if carrie fisher (but only if she plays herself).

battle hyrr of the shepublic (m bison), Thursday, 20 June 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link

read that wrong

how's life, Thursday, 20 June 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link

hee

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 June 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-episode-7-to-be-shot-on-film-not-digital/

Cinematographer Dan Mindel ASC, BSC will be reteaming with JJ Abrams to shoot Star Wars Episode VII. That comes as no surprise as Mindel worked with Abrams on the Star Trek films and Mission: Impossible III. The big news is that Mindel says that Episode 7 will be shot on Kodak film stock 5219 film, NOT digital cameras like the last couple prequel movies. The Phantom Menace was the last Star Wars film to be shot with film cameras (although some trivia fanatics will note, the movie did include a digitally photographed shot).

Domo Arigato, Demi Lovato (Phil D.), Friday, 23 August 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link

I imagine that trivia fanatics are the only real fans of the Phantom Menace

oh man i hope they're just doing that to troll george lucas

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 23 August 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link

maximum troll would be a ton of practical effects

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 24 August 2013 04:23 (ten years ago) link

would watch Star Wars as creature-shopped by Guillermo del Toro.

i too went to college (silby), Saturday, 24 August 2013 04:33 (ten years ago) link

oh man i hope they're just doing that to troll george lucas

― socki (s1ocki), Friday, August 23, 2013 4:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, a lot of the stuff around this movie is a repudiation of the prequels. that doesn't mean the new ones are any good, but there's definitely a sense of deliberate palate-cleansing

wonder if lucas sits in his mansion and sulks about this

no wait he's working on the "experimental" movies he's promised us for decades*

*would genuinely blow my mind if lucas came out with some $1,000,000 expanded cinema frampton-meets-brakhage-meets-tscherkassky experimental nonnarrative IMAX feature.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 24 August 2013 05:43 (ten years ago) link

are will be any good

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 24 August 2013 05:43 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgICnbC2-_Y

(Don't know if it really belong here, anyone have JJ Abrams' email address?)

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 24 August 2013 10:22 (ten years ago) link

i hate that genre of youtubes. even when i sort of agree with them. i watched that for 0:48 and then couldn't handle dude any more.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 24 August 2013 23:59 (ten years ago) link

TL;DW

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 24 August 2013 23:59 (ten years ago) link

Sure, that's fair - I just really like the way that he fixes stuff while still using 80% of what was actually shot, and without ever not being really corny, like he's not about establishing Intriguing Psychological Depth or Realistic Social Structures, he's about making a Star Wars movie.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 25 August 2013 09:02 (ten years ago) link

i'm sure his ideas are good I just can't get past the presentation

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 25 August 2013 13:00 (ten years ago) link

also i don't really care about star wars!

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 25 August 2013 13:00 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Boooooooooo

i too went to college (silby), Friday, 25 October 2013 06:09 (ten years ago) link

He's Ready (as they say on the football threads)

http://www.empireonline.com/images/uploaded/Por_fin_solos-director-filmmaker-Lawrence_Kasdan.jpg

piscesx, Friday, 25 October 2013 06:24 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

December 18, 2015

how's life, Friday, 8 November 2013 09:15 (ten years ago) link

A long time in the future, in a cinema far, far away...
*fanfare starts*
STAR WARS NERD RAGE

Meine Damen und Herren, Kraf-twerk (snoball), Friday, 8 November 2013 10:01 (ten years ago) link

Just get me to the point where I'm buying extra-large sodas fron taco bell. That's just where I want to be in these procedings.

how's life, Friday, 8 November 2013 10:43 (ten years ago) link

Extra Large Yoda Soda - May the Force(tm) (of sugar and/or HFCS laden beverages gushing out of your bladder) be with you, always!

Meine Damen und Herren, Kraf-twerk (snoball), Friday, 8 November 2013 12:08 (ten years ago) link

don't know the source on this but

Todd Dadslayer ‏@SRN_lol 22m
the new Star Wars movie is auditioning teens in case you thought somehow the new flicks were going to be better than the Jarjar ones

Todd Dadslayer ‏@SRN_lol 19m
"street smart, independent, athletic" teens for the main roles in Star Wars. haha

ciderpress, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link

Yeah that'll definitely be a lot worse than Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher who were 20 and 21 when "Star Wars" filmed wtf are they thinking franchise ruined BURRRRRRRRP

Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link

Ah, so the person who tweeted that is a moron, since they are in fact looking for people in the approximate age range that Fisher and Hamill were in when they were cast.

Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link

ah ok yeah that sounds reasonable then

ciderpress, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link

I wonder if Rachel and Thomas are fake names or if the new Star Wars universe is set in a New England bed and breakfast

Philip Nunez, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link

or that's not even definitely for star wars?

JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link

no, but the internet has decided it is. It does seem quite likely though

Number None, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link

wasn't meant to be snarky, it's just, well, Disney has their hands in so much stuff that it's weird that certain sectors of the internet seem to feel every single thing they do lately is related to star wars.

JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:34 (ten years ago) link

If they own Gilmore girls this could mean they are making the crossover nobody wanted but everyone needs

Philip Nunez, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link

irl lol

JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link

Casting call is probably for Treasure Planet II.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link

hahaha

xxp I believe the reasoning was that Star Wars is the only movie Disney currently has schedule for production in the UK, so this must be related to it.

Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:39 (ten years ago) link

I have seen this being reported as definitely being for Star Wars on a number of more or less trustworthy outlets.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link

maybe this will take place in an alternate parallel universe where Luke and vader team up with Thor and iron man to stop magneto.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:45 (ten years ago) link

Oh come on. Marvel are never going to put the X Men in the same movie as the Avengers...

Meine Damen und Herren, Kraf-twerk (snoball), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:47 (ten years ago) link

They legally can't.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:47 (ten years ago) link

xxp you are late to the game, my friend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOsKISBkIlQ

Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link

xp yeah I know. Can't decide if that's a bad thing or if we've been saved from a real mess.

Meine Damen und Herren, Kraf-twerk (snoball), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link

Wait, I didn't know that! What's that story?

how's life, Friday, 8 November 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link

Fox own X-Men and Fantastic Four, Sony own Spider-Man

Number None, Friday, 8 November 2013 17:32 (ten years ago) link

Oh, weird. Gotcha.

how's life, Friday, 8 November 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link

the reason they keep re-booting/making shitty sequels for each of those properties has more to do with maintaining rights than making interesting movies (big surprise, right)

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 November 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link

We should just tell them to play nice and share their X-Men and Spider-Man toys.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 8 November 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link

Please, won't someone think of the money?

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 8 November 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link

Confirmed by Lucasfilm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-24877078

Meine Damen und Herren, Kraf-twerk (snoball), Saturday, 9 November 2013 11:10 (ten years ago) link

give the part to Alex Rambo

Number None, Saturday, 9 November 2013 11:24 (ten years ago) link

"Doing open auditions makes sense to me. Some of the more recent films they cast star names. I think they never bothered to test them with other people and sometimes when you do that there doesn't seem to be a lot of chemistry on the screen.. "

http://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2013/nov/06/star-wars-episode-vii-auditions-kurtz-abrams

new films' chemistry can't be any worse that Portman/Christensen i guess.

piscesx, Saturday, 9 November 2013 12:44 (ten years ago) link

No more making fun of the guys who build R2-D2 robots in their garages: http://starwarsblog.starwars.com/2013/11/19/r2-d2-is-in-star-wars-episode-7-and-hes-fan-made/

Meet Lee Towersey and Oliver Steeples, Star Wars fans and members of the worldwide R2-D2 Builders Club. They create fully functioning, film-accurate astromech droids like the R2-D2 seen in the photo, and they’re officially part of the Creature Effects team for Star Wars: Episode VII. They didn’t apply for their jobs, but still had what is probably the best reference one could hope for.

“It all started when Kathleen Kennedy toured the R2-D2 Builders area at Celebration Europe this past summer in Germany,” says Steeples, who finished his first R2-D2 in 2007, after 10 years of collecting parts and researching. “She posed for pictures with us, looked at all the droids we’d built and was very complimentary. I mentioned that the R2-D2 Builders in the UK were available if required, as a semi-joke. When I was contacted to work on the film by [executive producer] Jason McGatlin, it was on her recommendation.”

Steeples, from Berkshire, England, and Towersey, from Middlesex, England, are working full-time on Star Wars: Episode VII at Pinewood Studios (where the Twitter photo was taken), focusing solely on astromech-building — for now. Keeping an astromech droid in working condition throughout the production of a film is a challenge, as it’s filled with gears, lights, and electronics; Steeples and Towersey were chosen because of their expertise and experience, both having worked on Star Wars­-themed commercials for the UK appliances megastore Curry’s. “We know the pressures of filming, prepping, and being able to assure reliability throughout the shoot,” says Towersey, who built the droid seen in the tweet. “We have a good knowledge of Artoo, with a large stock of parts for reference and drawings, plus we know what is involved throughout the whole building process, as well as potential problems we need to avoid.” Despite their impressive understanding of how to construct an astromech droid and keep it functioning, Steeples and Towersey still have a goal for Star Wars: Episode VII: to build a better R2-D2.

Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link

:)

schwantz, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link

that warms the cockles of my heart

so awesome

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link

absolutely!

Fetchboy, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 00:11 (ten years ago) link

I'm getting a "Indy4-younguns team up with fogeys for adventure
while throwing out jokey references to the previous films" gut feeling about these
already. Just a vibe.

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link

But I will go see. Don't get me wrong!

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 13:45 (ten years ago) link

ugh don't even casually invoke that horribleness yet

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link

I will definitely download a bootleg of this/these movies when they come out. I paid money to see the prequels, and made the decision that it is the last time I spend it on anything w the name Star Wars on it.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link

midnight showing of attack of the clones is one of the best movie tickets i ever bought, so many laughs, great times

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7PvtbkH0I (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link

I'll watch Starcrash again if I want a laugh.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link

'Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone' AKA "What if we try and rip off Star Wars and Mad Max at the same time, with Molly Ringwald?"

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link

Battle Beyond the Stars will be better than whatever atrocity Disney shits out for this next iteration

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link

The dodgy outfit Sean Connery was wearing in 'Zardoz' will be better than anything in these sequels.

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link

midnight showing of attack of the clones is one of the best movie tickets i ever bought, so many laughs, great times

man, attack of the clones at mann's chinese in hollywood was incredible. huge screen, pristine imagery, some of the best FX ever, astronomically epic lols for 2+ hours.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link

Some of the best FX ever? FX looked like a game IIRC.

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 22 November 2013 01:00 (ten years ago) link

Harrison on fine (if knackered looking) form here. hope he doesn't have to do too many stunts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgtjDX6fZdQ

piscesx, Friday, 22 November 2013 01:03 (ten years ago) link

GET OFF OF MY PLANE!! OUT OF MY HOUSE.

polyphonic, Friday, 22 November 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link

GET OFF MY PLANET

Doctor Casino, Friday, 22 November 2013 02:08 (ten years ago) link

haha Ford's looking all "I am way too high for this shit!"

Viceroy, Friday, 22 November 2013 02:51 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

Mark Hammill Reddit AMA http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1vvul8/mark_hamill_here_in_an_ama_far_far_away/

calstars, Saturday, 25 January 2014 02:30 (ten years ago) link

Older Luke Skywalker: beard or no beard?
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[–]RealMarkHamillMark Hamill[S] 2009 points 2 days ago
Well based on what has gone before, I have a feeling it's beard, but I have no confirmation of that. My wife said if you grow a beard, you'll cover up your cleft chin. That's not something that occurred to me. But I can only guess. I've never read any of the novelizations or anything but someone said to me, 'you're married, you have children.' Based on Obi-Wan I would have guessed I'd be living in an igloo or something. He was more spiritual, he didn't have a wife or children. And when you find out one of the only eligible women in the galaxy is your sister, it really cuts down on your odds of hooking up with anyone.

calstars, Saturday, 25 January 2014 02:31 (ten years ago) link

What was your reaction when you first met Harrison Ford?
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[–]RealMarkHamillMark Hamill[S] 1721 points 2 days ago
Well I'd seen him in American Graffiti, and I did the screen tests with him. We just fell into our character roles. Luke idolizes Han Solo, it was such a great role because Hans was the cynic, he was the modern role in this fairly tale. It was just the right element in the stew for all the cynics in the audience.
I just thought Harrison was fantastic, so perfect for the part. We fell into the role of mentor/student. they couldn't have made a better choice, and he can do no wrong. He's got a great sense of humor, it was fun to try to make him laugh.

calstars, Saturday, 25 January 2014 02:40 (ten years ago) link

not hamill but this comment gave me a huge giggle fit

[–]franzieperez 454 points 2 days ago
I actually had a huge argument with a friend of mine about (Han Solo's) name when we were younger. My friend was convinced it was "Hans Olo". His rationale was that the character had a 'normal' first name and a 'spacey' last name like Luke Skywalker or Ben Kenobi

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 January 2014 02:42 (ten years ago) link

Carrie Fisher summed it up well when she said "I'm not famous, but I look like somebody who is famous."

calstars, Saturday, 25 January 2014 02:46 (ten years ago) link

Wookies or Droids?
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[–]RealMarkHamillMark Hamill[S] 560 points 2 days ago
Just for the sake of loyalty, it would have to be R2 and C-3PO. Hans had the Wookiee. I love the fact that C-3PO was so unhappy being thrust into these adventures. He’d be so much happier working at the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

calstars, Saturday, 25 January 2014 03:08 (ten years ago) link

What's the Inside of a Taun Taun like?

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[–]RealMarkHamillMark Hamill[S] 2498 points 2 days ago

You know, warm and cozy. I also got inside a Bantha, those creatures that were outside the cantina. The inside of it was pasted over with newspapers and glue to give it substance, I thought, 'This is really odd.' I also got inside of Jabba, which was like a sauna bath, because it's like a big rubber enclosure. All the puppeteers had gone to lunch and I wondered, 'I wonder what it's like in there.'

balls, Saturday, 25 January 2014 03:32 (ten years ago) link

he seems like such a good dude. his interview on the Nerdist podcast was pretty great too, I thought.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 January 2014 07:06 (ten years ago) link

When I saw him at SW Celebration VI he really was just super cool and funny, willing to talk at length about SW or anything at all. Doesn't seem to have a mean or negative bone in his body. Ian McDiarmid is like that, too, interestingly enough.

Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Saturday, 25 January 2014 14:08 (ten years ago) link

What's the Inside of a Taun Taun like?

I thought the answer was "Luke-warm"

schwantz, Saturday, 25 January 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link

Up in them guts

barranca jagger (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 25 January 2014 19:47 (ten years ago) link

omg schwantz thats terrible

eric banana (s.clover), Monday, 3 February 2014 02:49 (ten years ago) link

I hear Han Solo operates a bologna stand

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Monday, 3 February 2014 15:33 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Wonder what George Lucas thinks about the new film being shot on film instead of digital.

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:55 (ten years ago) link

glad this isn't being shot in 3d

akm, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:57 (ten years ago) link

according to Harry Knowles Jack Reynor is in this. Guy has gone from a couple of small Irish movies to starring in the new Transformers and Star Wars in a couple of years. Hope it doesn't ruin him

Number None, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:24 (ten years ago) link

Good news that they're doing lots of location shooting.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:30 (ten years ago) link

that aspect alone means it will be better than the prequels

Number None, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:33 (ten years ago) link

ya can't wait to see han solo picnicking in central park

socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:44 (ten years ago) link

oh you

have a nice blood (mh), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:44 (ten years ago) link

or gorging on cupcakes at magnolia bakery!!!

socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:45 (ten years ago) link

I hear they're going to use LARPers in the parc in Montreal as extras

have a nice blood (mh), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:50 (ten years ago) link

tamtams ewoks

have a nice blood (mh), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:51 (ten years ago) link

the film opens on earth, where luke skywalker is a successful and cynical corporate lawyer who has forgotten his past and lost whatever....force....drove him.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:54 (ten years ago) link

this page says he's been in meetings to come back, but thought they'd killed off the Emperor in Ep.6?

http://www.empireonline.com/images/uploaded/mark-hamill-star-wars-rumours.jpg

Dominique, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 17:25 (ten years ago) link

doesn't mean he can't haunt everyone

have a nice blood (mh), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 17:36 (ten years ago) link

there will never be any good news about this movie

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 17:41 (ten years ago) link

Call me a fool or a fool who follows him, but I genuinely think it could be decent.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 17:50 (ten years ago) link

There is almost no way it can be worse than the prequels, but of course the same kind of logic compelled me to see all three prequels despite all the evidence suggesting that they would continue to be lifeless, boring trainwrecks.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 23:52 (ten years ago) link

There is almost no way it can be worse than the prequels

oh ye of little faith

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 23:53 (ten years ago) link

I also stand by this:

This is a good thing. #1: reduces george lucas's ability to do any more damage, #2: odds of proper DVD release of ORIGINAL THEATRICAL STAR WARS go up immensely, #3: horrible anonymous disney sequels actually DILUTE impact of the prequels, substantially eroding their seeming claim to be an integral piece of the saga...they instead get lumped together with the other postmillenial Shitty Star Warses. And maybe the design work for the new spaceships and robots and monsters won't suck so bad.

― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:10 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 23:55 (ten years ago) link

i think the primary problem w/the prequels is the cast was channeling post-jedi skywalker sad bastard acting and i barely recall any "han soloing" as it were. part of the appeal of star wars was the slow discovery of the force's full power and people left and right (empire and rebellion!) taking the piss out of it and calling it a sham. we go into the prequels with the jedis just there and the force just a thing that everyone accepts and no one even has the chance to clown it because everyone is reciting force-scripture the entire time.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 00:29 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, I mean more generally: the Force is banal, lightsabers are ubiquitous, the Jedi are basically bureaucrats, the clone wars are a consequence-free CGI sideshow, being trained by Yoda means getting through your 2:00 class when you didn't have time to grab lunch, tragic downfalls are rejected soap opera B stories, and absolutely everything is just boring and ordinary. I think we've hashed this out more on the "crimes of George Lucas" thread, but that's kinda the long and short of it, plus incredibly uninspired direction. Thing should have been sent back for retooling as soon as the storyboards came in.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 00:36 (ten years ago) link

despite that i still think ROTS was a very good movie and maybe even a touch better than ROTJ in some respects. at least it was humorless because everyone was getting killed.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 00:39 (ten years ago) link

maybe even a touch better than ROTJ in some respects

Like what, postproduction color or something

polyphonic, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 00:45 (ten years ago) link

i remember being really impressed by the visual style and fx and settings, though yeah i mean i don't think it's better than ROTJ overall really.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 00:52 (ten years ago) link

I'd rather watch the prequels again than rewatch those bland new star trek movies.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 01:02 (ten years ago) link

i hope SW 7 isn't focused on a villain whose only motive is he's creating "chaos" as a teachable moment

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 01:06 (ten years ago) link

Joker the Hutt

, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 01:07 (ten years ago) link

ROTJ absolutely clobbers ROTS, no question in my mind, and I recognize all kinds of glaring faults in Jedi. Even just the creation of Jabba the Hutt, by himself, displays about a hundred times more imagination than anything in Sith. Or the weird voice disguise thing Leia has in that one scene, the Rancor, the cool Jedi stuff Luke does (notably not done completely to death)... yeah, it's all kinda downhill after the Jabba sequence (which in itself already has a slight lack of inventiveness: why are we back on Tatooine?), but there are some rallying moments at the end, and even if everybody is a little too confident and competent (my girlfriend called it a "senior slump" movie), there's still more human drama and charm and interest to the acting. Sith has the Emperor, Obi-Wan crying out in rage and disappointment, and....ehh, not much else that impresses itself on the memory or holds the attention on the screen. IMO!

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 02:49 (ten years ago) link

Attack on the Death Star is one of my favorite action sequences of all time

, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 03:03 (ten years ago) link

slow discovery of the force's full power and people left and right (empire and rebellion!) taking the piss out of it and calling it a sham

otm, and the general "we're not really sure what's gonna happen here" attitude of the characters, and the story in general. in short, it had less on its shoulders, which no movies that come after can ever really duplicate. The prequels felt like perfunctory telling of lore, rather than organic unfolding of epic adventure. Technically, I can't blame them, but hoping the sequels aren't saddled with so much heavy "significance", AND can somehow present great characters to carry their stories.

Dominique, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 03:18 (ten years ago) link

hope luke's grandkids have laserbikes

rhyme heals all goons (m bison), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 03:25 (ten years ago) link

not to be all prometheus-y but they could go the "sometime much later in a galaxy that happens to be this one" route.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 03:27 (ten years ago) link

"yesterday, in st. paul, minnesota, u.s.a..."

rhyme heals all goons (m bison), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 03:29 (ten years ago) link

real talk i will see this movie because i am a bad and dumb person

rhyme heals all goons (m bison), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 03:30 (ten years ago) link

a young jj abrams-looking kid with an E.T. hat is brushing off what looks like dinosaur bones in a quarry. pull back to reveal the outline of an AT-AT walker.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 03:33 (ten years ago) link

vader and leia, walking through times square

i have the new brutal HOOS if you want it (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 14:49 (ten years ago) link

oh god nooooooo

Nhex, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 15:13 (ten years ago) link

I hope they do a Death Star III.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 15:17 (ten years ago) link

To save Tatooine from an alien probe, Luke Skywalker and his rebel crew must time-travel to 1986 San Francisco to retrieve the only beings who can communicate with it: humpback whales.

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 15:52 (ten years ago) link

this is going to be a shot-for-shot remake of Singles, only with Star Wars characters

sent as gassed to onto rt dominance (DJP), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 15:54 (ten years ago) link

"Touch Me, I'm Wicket"

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 15:59 (ten years ago) link

"Where are the anthems for our youth? What happened to music that meant something? The Max Rebo Band at Jabba's Palace, or The Ewok's aat the Victory Celebration... Where is the "Lapti Nek," where is the, is the "Jedi Rocks"... Where is the "Mad About Me" of today?"

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 16:00 (ten years ago) link

Is my force too small for you?
Sometimes...

how's life, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 16:02 (ten years ago) link

this will end up being the longest thread in ilx history

slam dunk, Thursday, 20 February 2014 00:22 (ten years ago) link

OP will add lots of animated gifs and Java applets

he had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up (NotEnough), Thursday, 20 February 2014 07:54 (ten years ago) link

Then delete the original thread

he had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up (NotEnough), Thursday, 20 February 2014 07:54 (ten years ago) link

lol give it up you losers

someone should put a bullet in this franchise, there's no saving it and I guarantee fan recommendation website isn't gonna solve it (no matter how good yr recommendations are)

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 21:59 (ten years ago) link

ROTJ absolutely clobbers ROTS, no question in my mind, and I recognize all kinds of glaring faults in Jedi.

yeah srsly. ppl make fun of mark hamill's bad acting but he seems like olivier next to pretty much every performance in the prequels.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:02 (ten years ago) link

someone should put a bullet in this franchise, there's no saving it

See this is the one place my otpimism kicks in. For all of his efforts trying to fuck it all up, Lucas created a wonderfully rich and detailed universe that I think is capable of being treated rather well. I think there is still the potential for a great movie franchise here. Will it be this one? Doubtful. Disney will probably focus group this thing to death. But I don't think this is by any means a franchise beyond saving.

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:06 (ten years ago) link

I was really into it as a kid but seeing my culture/generation fixate on it for 35+ years, gobbling up absolutely anything and everything with the brand name on it whether its utter garbage or not, is pretty nauseating

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:08 (ten years ago) link

And that's totally fair. But just because people gobble up the shit, doesn't mean there aren't some gems buried in there. To this day I think there are some really creative things being done in the comics and video games, not to mention The Clone Wars animated series.

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:10 (ten years ago) link

haha what, that "four rules" thing is a video (already.. no) and they're featuring a MAKING-OF on the site? shut up

socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:17 (ten years ago) link

my feeling on this is this could be bad, or it could be good, and either way, it's like 2 hours of my time and $12 of my money, so like, the stakes arent super high (especially as the bar has been set so low)

shakey i cant but imagine all of your posts being mumbled under your breath as you rock back and forth

socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:19 (ten years ago) link

like your posts make me think that you, more than anyone else in this thread, want so hard to believe they might be good but you've been hurt so badly you need to keep talking yourself down

socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:19 (ten years ago) link

which is tbh a position i can relate to

socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:19 (ten years ago) link

no I really am so sick of Star Wars I would be a-okay with it being completely erased from the cultural landscape. I was tired of it and its place in nerd culture before the prequels came out, and then it just got really sad/irritating. Maybe it's just really prevalent where I am (nerd capital USA, with ILM HQ just over the hill), it's just ugh. Star Trek, even with all of its similarly shitty iterations, still retains some speck of value/interest for me. Perhaps because as a franchise it typically has adhered to a certain core philosophy/vision that has something interesting to say about life, people and society than just COOL THINGS BLOWED UP also ALIENS. Star Wars is just this vacuous, empty monster that eats money and cultural space.

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:27 (ten years ago) link

lucas' vision of "war is a boring and incoherent mess" actually turning out to be oddly more progressive than the "torture and revenge is regrettable but sometimes justified" mantra that is latter-day star trek.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:32 (ten years ago) link

i definitely feel that... i feel like most of the attachment i have to the originals has just been smeared over with the last 20 years of shittiness... but im still curious about what this will bring. mostly because of stuff like shooting on 35mm, which seems like such a fuck-you to lucas. it'll probably just be like super 8 tho, kind of amusing at first as a 70s pastiche but ultimately lame

socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:33 (ten years ago) link

"torture and revenge is regrettable but sometimes justified" mantra that is latter-day star trek

I didn't see the last movie, but I am not aware of this being a "mantra" of either the first film or any other iteration of Star Trek (in which case, again, I have no faith in Abrams to do anything right)

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:36 (ten years ago) link

lucas' vision of "war is a boring and incoherent mess"

and lol is this some ridiculous auteur theory apologia I can't even

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:37 (ten years ago) link

well, to make an even less compelling case for the clone wars than for invading Iraq takes some doing!

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:46 (ten years ago) link

Also, corny fuxx alert here, the thought of being able to experience a new Star Wars film in the theaters for the first time with my son is pretty cool. Even if it does suck. He's already really into the few Star Wars books he's gotten and can name most of the characters (Chewbacca and Boba Fett are his faves, fwiw).

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:46 (ten years ago) link

Think about how shitty it'll be on the day when this thread is bumped for actual Star Wars 7 footage.

how's life, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:51 (ten years ago) link

I remember the first time I watched all three of these post-prequels, and there was a point in ROTJ where Luke was talking to Leia and I realized the past 30 minutes were basically a crummy episode of Care Bears followed by a soap opera.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:57 (ten years ago) link

Star Wars always should have been a James Bond-style director-hopping series. Unfortunately The Holiday Special put that to rest. So blame drugs.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:58 (ten years ago) link

Moonraker directed by David Lynch would have been something

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:01 (ten years ago) link

The question might have been asked before, but how does kids watch Star Wars these days? From part one? That way you ruin the twist of part five, and well, pretty much everything in four-six. Or in chronological order? Which at this point would include weird inserts form Coruscant and other places you've never heard about, as well as other 'call-backs' to stuff they haven't seen.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:03 (ten years ago) link

my daughter (6yo) watched Star Wars (ep IV ugh I hate even having to specify this). she hasn't shown much interest in watching the others.

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:04 (ten years ago) link

For my son, we watched 4-6, then it wasn't in my plans to show him the prequels at all, but my wife bought them for him because he was so into it. No idea how my daughter's gonna get into this whole mess.

how's life, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:06 (ten years ago) link

My son is only 2 so he's got some time before watching the films (obviously we won't be seeing the first new one in the theaters with him), but I'm hoping to start with 4-6. Kinda why I'm hoping somehow Disney/Lucas lets out the original versions in the next few years.

He's actually really into Star Wars already, although I honestly haven't tried pushing it on him (a lot of my relatives seem to think that since I loved Star Wars as a kid that they must buy him Star wars stuff too though, so he has quite a few things). He does keep pulling out these Star Wars A-B-C and 1-2-3 board books and naming all the characters though.

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:10 (ten years ago) link

i dont have any special hopes for this, it'd be cool if it was good but if not whatever, but i am definitely curious what its going to look like and what angle they'll take

AIDS (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:23 (ten years ago) link

am pretty sure this will follow the same pattern of "trailer that gets you excited , movie is ultimately disappointing" that every one of these summer event movies has followed for the past couple of years (with a few exceptions of course)

TheMenzies, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:29 (ten years ago) link

Shakey, you will probably be happier if you stop reading and posting on this thread.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 00:07 (ten years ago) link

It says "shit talk" in the thread title, I'm just being accomodating

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 00:09 (ten years ago) link

Yeah that's totally your aim here.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 00:10 (ten years ago) link

i dont have any special hopes for this, it'd be cool if it was good but if not whatever, but i am definitely curious what its going to look like and what angle they'll take

― AIDS (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:23 AM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yeah basically I'm hoping for cool space battles filmed with miniature plastic models filmed on 35mm... and tha'ts it

, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 00:18 (ten years ago) link

This thread has become a place for those genuinely curious and, maybe, cautiously optimistic about the new films to speculate and share tidbits. Somebody periodically popping up with LOL THEY ARE GOING TO BE SHIT YOU ARE ALL CORPORATE SHILLS is just annoying tbh.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 00:23 (ten years ago) link

Shit talk

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 00:34 (ten years ago) link

http://dathealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/shiitake-mushroom.jpg

how's life, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 00:38 (ten years ago) link

that is the house where all the ewoks live, right?

stanley turpentine (fake penthouse letters mcgee), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 02:23 (ten years ago) link

Red Letter dude could make a better '4 rules' video in his sleep.

piscesx, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 02:36 (ten years ago) link

but could he make a making-of of that video

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 04:39 (ten years ago) link

who would make the better kickstarter video tho

°ㅇo ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 13:57 (ten years ago) link

i dont have any special hopes for this, it'd be cool if it was good but if not whatever, but i am definitely curious what its going to look like and what angle they'll take

― AIDS (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:23 AM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah, I am certainly looking forward to seeing the trailer for this and later reading the wikipedia synopsis

silverfish, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 14:43 (ten years ago) link

I'm hoping to start with 4-6. Kinda why I'm hoping somehow Disney/Lucas lets out the original versions in the next few years.

is it really gonna matter that much? if they release any version whatsoever of the OG trilogy into actual movie theaters i am going, and i am taking my kids, i don't give a shit if darth's helmet looks shinier or whatever the fuck

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 14:48 (ten years ago) link

I read a blog post positing that the best way to view them (apart from ignoring the prequels altogether obv) would be 1,4,2,5,6. That way the Vader paternity twist remains a surprise.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 14:59 (ten years ago) link

surely the best way to view them is

4,5, half of 6 and then you discover sex and heavy metal

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:22 (ten years ago) link

4,5,2,3,6

President Frankenstein (kingfish), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:30 (ten years ago) link

5

silverfish, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:31 (ten years ago) link

ep iv - i do not remember a time when this didn't exist and when i did not own at least one pillow case and one action figure
ep v - remember going to this in the theaters with a family friend and having it be the most important experience of my life
ep vi - prob saw this like seven times in theaters
ep i - waited in line for opening preshow with other nerds, forced myself to pretend to like it enough to justify all the still-in-box next gen figures in my dorm
ep ii - watched the first half on video and ffwd through the rest, can't remember anything about it except it was really really stupid
ep iii - never saw it, am okay with this

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:31 (ten years ago) link

4,5,2,3,6

― President Frankenstein (kingfish), Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:30 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^

i have the new brutal HOOS if you want it (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 16:05 (ten years ago) link

ep v - remember going to this in the theaters with a family friend and having it be the most important experience of my life

o hello, are you me?

you are clinically deaf and should sell you iPod (stevie), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 16:06 (ten years ago) link

ep iii - never saw it, am okay with this

― PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:31 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

only one of 1-3 worth watching

i have the new brutal HOOS if you want it (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 16:06 (ten years ago) link

Maybe don't bother with 2 even.

xposts

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 16:06 (ten years ago) link

xp i dunno man, i think i'm gonna be okay going down that lonesome road without it

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 16:07 (ten years ago) link

It has a sense that there is important stuff at stake which obviously sets it head and shoulders over the other two dramatically. Still populated with cardboard characters delivering awful dialogue though.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 16:10 (ten years ago) link

agree that 3 is the only partial keeper of the new batch

with tracer on the ideal viewing order

thuggish ruggish brony (contenderizer), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 16:15 (ten years ago) link

best order: 4, 5, 6. If the kids want to see the prequels they can buy 'em themselves.

you are clinically deaf and should sell you iPod (stevie), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 16:17 (ten years ago) link

I hope they have murderbears in #7:

http://ewoksaremurderbears.tumblr.com/

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 17:38 (ten years ago) link

i don't give a shit if darth's helmet looks shinier or whatever the fuck

haha, if only it was this.

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 17:58 (ten years ago) link

he really looks like a drawing.

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 21:04 (ten years ago) link

3 is the best of the prequels but 2 has some surprisingly solid moments, all of them involving obi-wan when he's on his own. but the worst parts of that film are the worst parts of the entire series.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 21:18 (ten years ago) link

this is like picking sweet corn nibs out of vomit.

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 21:25 (ten years ago) link

Don't knock it 'till you've tried it

faith driven consumer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 21:31 (ten years ago) link

i meant in a good way.

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 21:40 (ten years ago) link

The Red Letter take down of the prequels lack of solid characterization - the inability to describe a character without simply describing the person playing him - was totally on the money and remains why the movies play like utter nothing, or why even in terms of plot the first of the prequels can be ignored entirely. It's just people doing things.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 21:43 (ten years ago) link

people sitting and talking in the massive yet empty living rooms of the future

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 21:44 (ten years ago) link

A long time ago a living room door far, far away.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 23:15 (ten years ago) link

if Adam Driver takes this role my desire to flip him to the path of the inverts will decrease by approximately 77%

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 March 2014 17:54 (ten years ago) link

For my son, we watched 4-6, then it wasn't in my plans to show him the prequels at all, but my wife bought them for him because he was so into it. No idea how my daughter's gonna get into this whole mess.

― how's life, Tuesday, February 25, 2014 6:06 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The answer to this is officially http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Clone_Wars_%28film%29

how's life, Friday, 14 March 2014 22:54 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

While Disney chairman Alan Horn remained mostly tight lipped during an interview at the Loyola Marymount School of Film and Television in Los Angeles, he did let it slip that “Star Wars Episode VII” has already begun shooting and has much of its cast.

“We have a lot of them, it’s not completely done yet,” Horn responded when asked about casting, noting it as the most difficult part of putting the highly anticipated film together.

As J.J. Abrams prefers to keep details under wraps for most of his films, Horn declined to reveal any names. Variety, however, learned in February that “Girls” actor Adam Driver is in talks to play the villain. Actors being considered for the lead role include Ed Speleers, John Boyega, Jesse Plemons, Matthew James Thomas and Ray Fisher.

“We’re actually shooting some of it now,” Horn said, despite previous comments that filming would start next month. The chairman could have been referring to getting B-roll and location shots without having the cast on set, but he didn’t divulge any information beyond that.

The script, co-written by Lawrence Kasdan and Abrams after an early draft by “Toy Story 3″ scribe Michael Arndt, was also a challenge, according to Horn. On all other details, though, Horn channeled his inner Yoda to advise those awaiting more news: “Patience, you must have.”

“Star Wars: Episode VII” is produced by Abrams, his Bad Robot partner Bryan Burk and Lucasfilm head Kathleen Kennedy. It’s set to hit theaters Dec. 18, 2015.

bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:15 (ten years ago) link

adam driver's career path is confusing as hell

We hugged with no names exchanged (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:52 (ten years ago) link

Jesse Plemons? TODD?!?

plemons would be perfect for this

balls, Monday, 7 April 2014 02:22 (ten years ago) link

If they do cast Plemons and Driver this will definitely be up there as the ugliest SW cast ever.

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 7 April 2014 02:40 (ten years ago) link

The script, co-written by Lawrence Kasdan and Abrams after an early draft by “Toy Story 3″ scribe Michael Arndt..

come on that sounds pretty good on paper.

piscesx, Monday, 7 April 2014 08:07 (ten years ago) link

Jesse Plemons? TODD?!?LANDRY?!?

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 7 April 2014 08:57 (ten years ago) link

I thought you all mean Todd off Community. That's a weird lookin motherfucker.

there was a definite cool-factor in tupac's hologram (stevie), Monday, 7 April 2014 09:09 (ten years ago) link

They should cast the whole movie with Friday Night Lights alumni. Matt Saracen as the callow Jedi apprentice. Tim Riggins as the roguish Han Solo type. Buddy Garrity as Jabba the Hutt.

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 7 April 2014 10:09 (ten years ago) link

plemons would be perfect for this

― balls, Sunday, April 6, 2014 9:22 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i think it'd be pretty good. also, "ugliest SW cast ever" is a good thing, imo.

gbx, Monday, 7 April 2014 10:28 (ten years ago) link

I hope they have a kick-ass lady Jedi in this.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 7 April 2014 10:36 (ten years ago) link

There's only one female Jedi in all the six films, and you basically just see her get shot in the back by stormtroopers.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 7 April 2014 10:37 (ten years ago) link

why does ladies never want to jedi?

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 7 April 2014 10:59 (ten years ago) link

Funny, I'm not even close to being a trekkie and I remember at least 5 (albeit in appallingly small roles)

tsrobodo, Monday, 7 April 2014 11:24 (ten years ago) link

I didn't know Star Trek had Jedis too!

Tuomas, Monday, 7 April 2014 11:26 (ten years ago) link

Realdoll: Yoda Edition

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 7 April 2014 11:55 (ten years ago) link

lol

tsrobodo, Monday, 7 April 2014 12:06 (ten years ago) link

Oops stand corrected. But none of them have any actual lines or anything right?

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 7 April 2014 12:13 (ten years ago) link

I don't recall, but I don't think so. They're all pretty major characters in the Expanded Universe stuff. The first two, particularly, have gigantic story arcs in the Clone Wars cartoon series.

There's also this one, who had a death scene filmed two different ways, and both ended up on the cutting room floor, for Episode III.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l-44bYXlxE

(In the other version Anakin kills her during his raid on the Jedi temple.]

bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Monday, 7 April 2014 12:19 (ten years ago) link

what the fuck is that yoda with a wig

lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 7 April 2014 19:51 (ten years ago) link

the Star Wars wiki never fails to perplex and horrify

Yaddle, also known as "The One Below", was a renowned Jedi Master, who went on to serve the Jedi High Council for over a century before her death in 26 BBY during a peacekeeping mission to Mawan. A member of the same species as fellow Councilor Yoda, but about half his age, Yaddle trained dozens of Padawans in her time as a Jedi Master, including Oppo Rancisis, who would later join Yaddle on the Jedi Council, and the brash and overconfident Empatojayos Brand. After completing Brand's training, Yaddle did not take another apprentice, as she was almost five hundred years old when Brand passed the Jedi Trials for Knighthood.

Number None, Monday, 7 April 2014 19:54 (ten years ago) link

the brash and overconfident Empatojayos Brand

Doctor Casino, Monday, 7 April 2014 20:07 (ten years ago) link

can seriously never tell when people are just making this shit up

Doctor Casino, Monday, 7 April 2014 20:07 (ten years ago) link

"Yaddi, The One Below" is Andre 3K's new mixtape

I made a grave mistake with my balloon at the end (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 April 2014 20:14 (ten years ago) link

Femal Jedi having an actual role is a good idea

CGI Yoda is teh worst idea

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Monday, 7 April 2014 20:41 (ten years ago) link

is the idea that all those little yoda species things have names that start with a y and end in a vowel? this is a YHWH thing isn't it.

I made a grave mistake with my balloon at the end (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 April 2014 20:52 (ten years ago) link

countdown to YOLO joke

Doctor Casino, Monday, 7 April 2014 23:16 (ten years ago) link

Father Yod(a) and the Force Family

Assholes on Boats: A Billy Zane Retrospective (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 03:04 (ten years ago) link

I heard some bullshit abotu Yoda aint even a species he just a dude - you cant pull taht shit Lucas - all dudes are a species of some sort

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 20:58 (ten years ago) link

I recall in ep.1 seeing what appeared to be a younger, yoda-like Jedi -- white skin, and taller than Yoda, but same big ears, and shorter than any human character. Maybe the last scene?

Dominique, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 22:44 (ten years ago) link

what the fuck

lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 23:41 (ten years ago) link

I know without looking it up that his name is Evan Piell ;_;

bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 01:02 (ten years ago) link

agree with whoever said just stick the whole friday night lights cast in this

buddy garrity for emperor

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 14:07 (ten years ago) link

Buddy Garrity as Jabba the Hutt.

― bizarro gazzara, Monday, 7 April 2014 10:09 (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 14:24 (ten years ago) link

yeah that hamill was some kid off the streets, ford was this smartass/badass who kinda thinks acting as a career is a joke, and carrie fisher was this wise beyond her years cynic who'd grown up in hollywood worked really well for star wars (plus you have alec guiness for yr bemused genius, peter cushing as sinister imperialist, and james earl jones providing a disembodied voice that could probably crush you w/o even touching you). thought the rise in quality in terms of professional actors was something that worked against it, by the second one ewan macgregor had kinda figured things out and by the third portman had gotten the hang enough that you could imagine her pulling off mon mothma maybe in jedi. who knows what the characters are actually like but really if you want to replicate what worked and add the humanity the prequels lacked have some dorky earnest innocent to do the bildungsroman and then go lady and the tramp for the other main protagonists.

balls, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 14:33 (ten years ago) link

Yoda has no penis

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:40 (ten years ago) link

Yodan't know that

Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:02 (ten years ago) link

1980-2014, RIP the years in which it never occurred to me to consider whether Yoda has a penis or not. They will be missed.

lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:19 (ten years ago) link

It's the only thing I ever think about.

Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:21 (ten years ago) link

Luke: What's in there?
Yoda: Only what you take with you.

Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 April 2014 22:05 (ten years ago) link

Up the arse corner I know but that scene says quite a lot about how good the puppetry is in these films (especially compared to the contactless cgi of the prequels). You can believe that the character is physically carrying around a squat, weird living creature on his back in that scene

cardamon, Thursday, 10 April 2014 22:06 (ten years ago) link

http://www.bibble.org/farscape/characters/rygel/struggle.jpg

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 10 April 2014 22:12 (ten years ago) link

1980-2014, RIP the years in which it never occurred to me to consider whether Yoda has a penis or not. They will be missed.

― lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:19 PM (Yesterday)

Biggest lol of the day so far.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 11 April 2014 09:57 (ten years ago) link

For me it was something list 1980-1995, because of a review of a Star Wars videogame that compared the B Wing to Yoda's penis.

an office job is as secure as a Weetabix padlock (snoball), Friday, 11 April 2014 20:03 (ten years ago) link

Mayeb Yoda has some never -before thought of genital - a Forcestick

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Friday, 11 April 2014 20:24 (ten years ago) link

does yoda have a forceskin

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 11 April 2014 20:40 (ten years ago) link

missed pun opportunity in spaceballs, really.

Belgian Flanders Albums Chart (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 11 April 2014 20:46 (ten years ago) link

It's not the size of the saber, it's the constant flipping and flipping and flipping.

Assholes on Boats: A Billy Zane Retrospective (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 12 April 2014 01:59 (ten years ago) link

I guess I should work for the onion :(

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Friday, 18 April 2014 19:40 (ten years ago) link

At-ATs on Tatooine. Spoiler, btw. Although everything about this film will be spoiled by the time it's released.

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Friday, 18 April 2014 22:34 (ten years ago) link

tatooine again? are there no other planets??

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 19:57 (ten years ago) link

you would prefer Return to Planet Jar Jar

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 20:10 (ten years ago) link

Tatooine acted as a pit stop for pretty much everyone in the original Star Wars, not to mention being Luke's home planet, so would be kind of weird for it not to show up in the sequels. In fact, I'd figure *most* of the feel of the original movies would have to show up in these, as it's only going to be 30-odd years since those events happened. I always thought it was odd that the look/feel of the prequels was so much more modern/cleaned-up compared to the original movies, and one of the big reasons for me to fault them.

Dominique, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 20:15 (ten years ago) link

nar shaddaa or no deal imo

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 20:28 (ten years ago) link

THE VERTICAL CITY

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 20:28 (ten years ago) link

nsfw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyF8YPSUBRU

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 20:35 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyF8YPSUBRU

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 20:35 (ten years ago) link

tatooine again? are there no other planets??

― Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green)

To be fair it's easily the most culturally well-developed of the SW planets, ie a little bit.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 24 April 2014 00:04 (ten years ago) link

I wonder if Wicket had kids.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 April 2014 00:09 (ten years ago) link

WHat about the planet of those fucking quid -faced dicks - go there for a change Lucas you shitbag

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Thursday, 24 April 2014 19:32 (ten years ago) link

squid faced

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Thursday, 24 April 2014 19:32 (ten years ago) link

fucking hell, the meticulous backstory of even the most bit player in that goddamn universe
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Quarren

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 24 April 2014 19:38 (ten years ago) link

Soon, many Quarren headed off-planet and became business managers and accountants.

so up for a movie focused on depicting this.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 24 April 2014 20:18 (ten years ago) link

lmao @ "Mon Calamari"

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 24 April 2014 20:20 (ten years ago) link

Soon, many Quarren headed off-planet and became business managers and accountants.

so up for a movie focused on depicting this.

this would be the ideal moment for the utility data storyline

lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 24 April 2014 20:26 (ten years ago) link

You mean Gonk?

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 24 April 2014 21:24 (ten years ago) link

why does she have boobs

lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 24 April 2014 22:44 (ten years ago) link

I'm getting too old for this shit

lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 24 April 2014 22:44 (ten years ago) link

Because female squid totally lactate.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 24 April 2014 22:49 (ten years ago) link

there is someone out there who wishes they could wife that

Dominique, Thursday, 24 April 2014 22:50 (ten years ago) link

good god

lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 24 April 2014 22:56 (ten years ago) link

Following the Rebel victory at Endor, Ackbar was a signer of the Declaration of a New Republic. He fought numerous campaigns against the Galactic Empire and splinter warlord groups, as well as the Nagai and Tof, and developed cunning military tactics such as the "Ackbar Slash" and "Thrawn Pincer." Given a seat on the Inner Council, Ackbar was named Supreme Commander of the New Republic Defense Force, making him the highest officer in the Republic's military.

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 24 April 2014 22:59 (ten years ago) link

Star Wars: Legacy was a good series, and much more space-piratey

Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Friday, 25 April 2014 00:16 (ten years ago) link

Ackbar Slash

DNW

it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Friday, 25 April 2014 06:44 (ten years ago) link

"It's a fap!"

EZ Snappin, Friday, 25 April 2014 13:00 (ten years ago) link

fucking hell, the meticulous backstory of even the most bit player in that goddamn universe
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Quarren

― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Thursday, April 24, 2014 8:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Jesus wept

online hardman, Friday, 25 April 2014 13:39 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6J5EqFXErE
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lapti_Nek

"We had a song, which will probably be changed because it was a little bit disco and I can't stand disco. I think it's awful and George isn't wild about it either."―Richard Marquand on "Lapti Nek"

"Lapti Nek" was composed by John Williams's son, Joseph.

"Lapti Nek" was replaced with "Jedi Rocks" in the 1997 Special Edition and subsequent releases of Return of the Jedi.

The lyrics translate into Galactic Basic Standard as follows:
Feel my body growing
My bones have started glowing, ooh
Wow!
The time has come for showing
That I'll shape you up and work you out
My body feels excitin'
My soul is synthesizin'
My whole frame is jumpin'
I'm workin' out and havin' fun

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Friday, 25 April 2014 14:33 (ten years ago) link

nephew was watching ROTJ at the weekend and I genuinely think getting rid of Lap Ti Nek (and replacing it with what they replaced it with) might be the single worst alteration of the Special Editions.

it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Friday, 25 April 2014 14:39 (ten years ago) link

It is terrible and so is replacing the Ewok song with some kind of Peruvian pan flute jam

nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Friday, 25 April 2014 14:41 (ten years ago) link

I thought those had been changed, wasn't actually sure til now

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 25 April 2014 14:47 (ten years ago) link

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jizz

glasses jacket jerfman (how's life), Friday, 25 April 2014 14:50 (ten years ago) link

jizz-wail

crunchy righteous rojo rings (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 25 April 2014 15:00 (ten years ago) link

Glitz was a progressive off-shoot genre of jizz. It was not to be confused with gliz.

L. Ron and Wine (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 26 April 2014 08:05 (ten years ago) link

Jizz instruments

Bass Viol
Bandfill
Clak Beepbox
Dorenian Beshniquel
Fanfar
Gasan string drum
Jizz
Jizz-box
Kloo horn
Mood synthesizer
Nalargon
Ommni box
Peel rod
Ploong sounder
Slitherhorn (traz)

^^^ poll

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 26 April 2014 08:18 (ten years ago) link

Ackbar Slash

DNW

― it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Thursday, April 24, 2014 11:44 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"It's a fap!"

― EZ Snappin, Friday, April 25, 2014 6:00 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

omg

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 26 April 2014 08:30 (ten years ago) link

Site's slammed but

http://starwars.com/news/star-wars-episode-7-cast-announced.html

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 16:52 (ten years ago) link

Actors John Boyega, Daisy Ridley, Adam Driver, Oscar Isaac, Andy Serkis, Domhnall Gleeson, and Max von Sydow will join the original stars of the saga, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill, Anthony Daniels, Peter Mayhew, and Kenny Baker in the new film.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 16:56 (ten years ago) link

Max von Sydow's alive???

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 16:58 (ten years ago) link

Max von Sydow?? AWESOME

diamonddave85‌ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:00 (ten years ago) link

Awesome picture.

schwantz, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:01 (ten years ago) link

The idea of contemporary Ford & Fisher slurring 'banter' back and forth makes me naseous

lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:01 (ten years ago) link

Kinda hope he just plays Ming and blows up everyone.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:01 (ten years ago) link

Low-key as fuck. This is looking promising.

how's life, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:01 (ten years ago) link

i think jj abrams is mostly terrible but i'm looking forward to it nonetheless, at this point. also since the only role in which ford has shown a pulse in recent years was indiana jones (despite the movie being terrible), i'm thinking he'll have good times with the role. mostly looking forward to hamill though.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:03 (ten years ago) link

no jesse plemons :(

socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:04 (ten years ago) link

oscar isaac <3 <3 <3 weeeeeeeeeeeee v exciting

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:07 (ten years ago) link

suckers

lol get 'em shakes

goole, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:11 (ten years ago) link

seriously you guys never learn

"thank you sir may I have another!" etc

shut the fuck up dude

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:19 (ten years ago) link

your point was made about 1000 posts ago, we got it. thanks.

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:20 (ten years ago) link

you will never be 7 years old again, move on

jon 99% of fuckin' everybody is on your side about how anything star wars is automatically awesome and how anybody who doesn't LOVE IT, FOREVER, IT'S THE BEST is lying to themselves and to God, I think you can handle one person being honest about how JJ Abrams directing a bunch of unfathomably wealthy aging actors in the new Star Wars sounds good maybe only if you've already decided you love it no matter what

Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:26 (ten years ago) link

aero, don't put words in mouth. i've not decided to love it, i'm, at best, cautiously optimistic. i'm just tired of shakey popping in with every news update to hammer the same point he's already made 100 times before.

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:27 (ten years ago) link

also just wtf about your post in general aero, i've never said anything remotely resembling that.

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:28 (ten years ago) link

yeah its like we get it. its prob not gonna be good. may we still talk about it without being lectured by a guy who tbh sounds more like a 7-year-old than anyone else in this thread

socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:37 (ten years ago) link

sorry jon that was over the top I didn't realize shakey did that every time there's news. cut it out shakey. if you had saved your ire for a day like today it might have carried some weight, jj abrams is directing the new star wars is a real opportunity for "wow, people are gonna go see this, eh?"

Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:38 (ten years ago) link

is Kasdan in that photo?

piscesx, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:39 (ten years ago) link

interesting that Lucas isn't.

piscesx, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:41 (ten years ago) link

he's hiding in the r2d2

socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:44 (ten years ago) link

yeah i was unecessarily aggro with my "shut the fuck up", but shakey's got absolutely nothing new to add to his "lol you guys are suckers" schtick at this point. and hey, this is very likely going to 98% garbage, but i have a 2 1/2 year-old that is already wide-eyed with glee at the previews for the new Disney animated series and the thought of experiencing one of these flicks in the theater with him, no matter how garbage, has me pretty excited. forgive me for offending everyone's superior taste tho.

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:45 (ten years ago) link

haha

socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:47 (ten years ago) link

Pretty sure everyone here has already seen the prequels, realized they aren't 7 years old, and the most starry eyed fanboy has written off Star Wars at least a decade ago.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:47 (ten years ago) link

Let's not lose track of the fact that George Lucas not writing dialog already means these flicks will automatically be 12% more watchable than the prequels.

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link

Fwiw i was so burned by "The Phantom Menace" that I avoided seeing the other 2 until they were in the dollar theater. And at $1, "Attack of the Clones" is actually a riot.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:49 (ten years ago) link

this will of course be "better" than the prequels but since it won't be the totally uncompromised auteurist daydreams of a stunted hack with infinite money it will just be meaningless candy instead of one of the most singular cinematic artifacts ever. fuck competence imo

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:49 (ten years ago) link

My son is going to be 7 when this is released. Looking forward to this specifically because of that fact.

silverfish, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:49 (ten years ago) link

not that there's anything wrong w candy it's just that attack of the clones is forever.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:50 (ten years ago) link

^^^ otm, mine will be too young for the first one still, but Episode 8 should be really fun.

(xpost)

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:51 (ten years ago) link

think I'm gonna do a rewatch of the OG's soon

I'm feeling the love

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:51 (ten years ago) link

just puttin the shit in shit talk fellas

Episode 7 prequel:

uh-OH

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:54 (ten years ago) link

So, Daisy Ridley is playing Han and Leia's daughter? And Serkis in mo-cap, obv.

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:55 (ten years ago) link

Shakey Morbz Doctorllier

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:56 (ten years ago) link

Star Wars is kind of like Christmas in that it's this thing that you really, really liked as a kid but becomes this lame and ridiculous thing as an adult that you kind of feel forced to participate in, but then suddenly you have kids and it becomes something you look forward to, despite all the commercial crassness and cheap plastic toys

silverfish, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:57 (ten years ago) link

I hope Max Von Sydow plays a kind, wise man who turns out to be evil in the third act

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:57 (ten years ago) link

Is Chewie going to be all grey-furred?

jmm, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:01 (ten years ago) link

who are those geezers in the chairs *behind* the readthrough?

piscesx, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:03 (ten years ago) link

mark hamill spilled something all over himself didn't he

chinavision!, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:04 (ten years ago) link

odd, dude on the left facing camera looks like hamill a bit too

christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:04 (ten years ago) link

would be dope if all episode 7 trailers/promo materials were in full color then the whole film is in black and white

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:06 (ten years ago) link

who are those geezers in the chairs *behind* the readthrough?

the sons and daughters of some very well-connected people

Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:07 (ten years ago) link

nevermind wrong guy

chinavision!, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:09 (ten years ago) link

Gleeson's probably a Skywalker.

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link

http://vimeo.com/68410539

goole, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:11 (ten years ago) link

this will of course be "better" than the prequels but since it won't be the totally uncompromised auteurist daydreams of a stunted hack with infinite money it will just be meaningless candy instead of one of the most singular cinematic artifacts ever. fuck competence imo

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:49 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cool i didn't know camille paglia posted here

goole, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:12 (ten years ago) link

strange they didn't cast all three John Glenn Singers, but I guess Timbo is too Hayden Christensen.

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link

another thing this movie won't be as good as is madonna

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link

guys... what if this is really good
what do we do then

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:18 (ten years ago) link

is that a Fanboys quote? God, that movie

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:19 (ten years ago) link

Man I don't know what to call it, but it is really something that Morbs has seen Fanboys and I never have.

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:20 (ten years ago) link

Spoiler alert: It was terrible.

bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:21 (ten years ago) link

I 'had to' review it. It does have one great H Ford joke in it.

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:22 (ten years ago) link

lol, that is not a quote
it's a sentiment

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link

spoiler -- last line of Fanboys (its other good joke) is, as The Phantom Menace begins to screen, is

"What if this movie sucks?"

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:33 (ten years ago) link

Is Kenny Baker in the R2D2 suit, in the box? HARSH

it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:40 (ten years ago) link

First movie is going to be all about restoring the economy and Luke applying for payday loans.

bets wishes (jel --), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:54 (ten years ago) link

That will still be better than the racist Trade Federation bullshit.

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 19:21 (ten years ago) link

why think up alien cultures when you can just use handy-dandy racist stereotypes

PLATYPUS OF DOOM (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link

Its a Harry potter crossover!!! win!!

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 20:18 (ten years ago) link

Harry Potter and the Phantom Menace

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 20:36 (ten years ago) link

third Star Wars film to feature a cast member of Ingmar Bergman and Bille August's The Best Intentions

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 20:55 (ten years ago) link

Andy Serkis, Oscar Isaac, and MvS casting make me curious. I hope they get Ben Burtt to do the sound design again. He did Wall-E so he's good with Disney, right?

Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 21:05 (ten years ago) link

Can't even countenance the prospect of them fucking up the sound design, every other area of the franchise has been tarnished over the years but even in the prequels the sounds were just amazing throughout (I think? Been a good long while since I've seen them). Certainly I remember in the third prequel there was the shriek of that monster thing that Obi-Wan was riding 'round for a while (or was that in the arena in the second?) and this weird gong-like noise that the artillery batteries were making in that space battle at the start. God if they fuck up the sound design then they're really in trouble

Windsor Davies, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 21:30 (ten years ago) link

Ben Burtt is in

Number None, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 21:33 (ten years ago) link

to feature a cast member of Ingmar Bergman

cardamon, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 21:40 (ten years ago) link

is anyone really excited that andy serkis is gonna be in this... lemme guess... he's gonna play a crazy CGI feller!!!

socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 22:11 (ten years ago) link

He plays himself.

schwantz, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 22:31 (ten years ago) link

Russell Brand confirmed as some kind of talking moon.

nashwan, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 22:33 (ten years ago) link

I actually thought Russell Brand and Noel Fielding were the same person for the longest time.

tsrobodo, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 00:34 (ten years ago) link

ina shocking move NO CGI - how I wish

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 16:18 (ten years ago) link

Will Star Wars: Episode 7 be the first $3bn movie?

http://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2014/may/02/star-wars-epidode-vii-box-office-film

piscesx, Friday, 2 May 2014 17:12 (ten years ago) link

what a thrilling prospect.

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 2 May 2014 17:22 (ten years ago) link

you can help make it happen!

Number None, Friday, 2 May 2014 17:23 (ten years ago) link

please don't

PLATYPUS OF DOOM (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 May 2014 17:24 (ten years ago) link

why not?

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 2 May 2014 17:28 (ten years ago) link

Thinkpieces be pointing out that the cast is boy-heavy. Highlight of the prequels was obv Portman's pointed "This is how liberty dies," so maybe this will be a further regression. Foe Episode VIII they can try to get Dubya and Obomber to play the imperial fucks.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/04/30/star_wars_episode_7_cast_list_where_are_the_women.html

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 May 2014 17:40 (ten years ago) link

Highlight of the prequels was Vader's "Nooooo!" and subsequent Frankenstein's monster force rampage. Which should have happened halfway through the second movie.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 2 May 2014 17:55 (ten years ago) link

highlight of the prequels was "you don't want to sell me death sticka; you want to go home and rethink your life"

difficult listening hour, Friday, 2 May 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link

*sticks

difficult listening hour, Friday, 2 May 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link

I was totally going to post that

Number None, Friday, 2 May 2014 18:13 (ten years ago) link

Elan Sel'Sabagno, also known as Elan Sleazebaggano, was a Balosar medical student on Coruscant who fell in with a bad crowd. He eventually became a slythmonger, and dealt death sticks in the Outlander Club in the Uscru Entertainment District.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 2 May 2014 18:27 (ten years ago) link

Sleazebaggano isn't he governor of New Jersey

PLATYPUS OF DOOM (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 May 2014 18:29 (ten years ago) link

highlight of the prequels was

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 2 May 2014 18:41 (ten years ago) link

when they were over

PLATYPUS OF DOOM (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 May 2014 18:41 (ten years ago) link

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me5m8hIVWv1rani6a.gif

WOW CAN'T WAIT FOR MORE PENETRATING INSIGHTS FROM MORBS AND SHAKEY

Diddley Hollyberry (Phil D.), Friday, 2 May 2014 18:48 (ten years ago) link

penetrate my parsec

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 May 2014 18:54 (ten years ago) link

I'd rather kiss a Wookiee.

Diddley Hollyberry (Phil D.), Friday, 2 May 2014 19:00 (ten years ago) link

scruffy looking?!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 2 May 2014 19:01 (ten years ago) link

These posts are just a prequel fwiw

PLATYPUS OF DOOM (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 May 2014 19:01 (ten years ago) link

Z-minus 10,000 meters

Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Friday, 2 May 2014 19:01 (ten years ago) link

I'll re-edit them w more CGI later

PLATYPUS OF DOOM (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 May 2014 19:02 (ten years ago) link

^^ actually funny

Diddley Hollyberry (Phil D.), Friday, 2 May 2014 19:16 (ten years ago) link

From a certain point of view

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 2 May 2014 19:44 (ten years ago) link

shakey jar jar collier

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 2 May 2014 19:57 (ten years ago) link

WOW CAN'T WAIT FOR MORE PENETRATING INSIGHTS FROM MORBS AND SHAKEY
― Diddley Hollyberry (Phil D.), Friday, May 2, 2014 2:48 PM

STAR WARS 7 SHIT TALK

am0n, Friday, 2 May 2014 20:08 (ten years ago) link

lol

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 2 May 2014 20:46 (ten years ago) link

what a very av club url

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Monday, 12 May 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link

lollll

goole, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 13:40 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/63sUsME.jpg

, Friday, 16 May 2014 05:36 (nine years ago) link

accurate

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 16 May 2014 07:11 (nine years ago) link

haha is that from that captcha illustration blog

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Friday, 16 May 2014 10:51 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfNiC9iKM0Q

Diddley Hollyberry (Phil D.), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfNiC9iKM0Q

Diddley Hollyberry (Phil D.), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

i hope Carrie Fisher does Leia as a total mah-jongg-playing yenta in this

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link

Gareth Edwards and Gary Whitta Onboard for Star Wars Stand-Alone Film
May 22, 2014

In addition to the episodes of a new Star Wars trilogy, Lucasfilm and Disney have begun development on multiple stand-alone movies that will offer new stories beyond the core Saga. Gareth Edwards will direct the first stand-alone film, with a screenplay by Gary Whitta. The film is due out December 16, 2016.

Gareth Edwards blazed into the filmmaking forefront with his acclaimed work on Monsters, a film he wrote, directed and served on as cinematographer and visual effects artist. The skill and vision readily apparent in Monsters earned him the high-profile spot directing this year's smash hit Godzilla.

"Ever since I saw Star Wars I knew exactly what I wanted to do for the rest of my life - join the Rebel Alliance! I could not be more excited & honored to go on this mission with Lucasfilm, said Edwards.

Gary Whittas screenwriting credits include 2010s The Book of Eli starring Denzel Washington. He is also well known as a journalist and editor in the video game industry, as well as part of the BAFTA award-winning team on Telltale Games adaptation of The Walking Dead.

Whitta states, "From the moment I first saw the original movie as a wide-eyed kid, Star Wars has been the single most profound inspiration to my imagination and to my career as a writer. It is deeply special to me,so to be given the opportunity to contribute to its ongoing legacy, especially in collaboration with a film-maker as talented as Gareth,is literally a dream come true. I'm still pinching myself."

Number None, Thursday, 22 May 2014 23:21 (nine years ago) link

I knew exactly what I wanted to do for the rest of my life - join the Rebel Alliance!

some bad news for you

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 22 May 2014 23:28 (nine years ago) link

can't wait for the DC vs Marvel vs Star Wars era of moviegoing sounds like exciting times of explosions and fighting

Clay, Thursday, 22 May 2014 23:35 (nine years ago) link

Patton Oswalt's filibuster come to life

lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 22 May 2014 23:36 (nine years ago) link

Eventually the prequels will be more and more appreciated for their idiosyncratic tendencies. There's no way these new ones won't be incredibly watered down.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 23 May 2014 02:15 (nine years ago) link

nowhere to go but up for the prequels

anonanon, Friday, 23 May 2014 02:19 (nine years ago) link

Eventually the prequels will be more and more appreciated for their idiosyncratic tendencies. There's no way these new ones won't be incredibly watered down.

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, May 22, 2014 10:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

watered down? like in terms of... ideology? philosophical content?

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 23 May 2014 13:01 (nine years ago) link

In terms of being made by committee vs. entirely the whims of a single man.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 23 May 2014 13:42 (nine years ago) link

George Lucas not having complete control over this is a very good thing.

Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Friday, 23 May 2014 13:51 (nine years ago) link

Yeah I think plenty of people have a far better idea of what made Star Wars good than him.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 23 May 2014 14:21 (nine years ago) link

lol the best things about the original movies were made by a committee, the worst by george lucas' "whims"

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 23 May 2014 14:33 (nine years ago) link

I don't know, I keep seeing things that keep me optimistic. Like that video they released of JJ Abrams talking about donating to the new foundation to win a cameo in the flick, they had an old Jim Henson looking puppet creature walk through the frame. Not some CGI bullshit thing. It's touches like that that leave me hopeful.

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 May 2014 15:09 (nine years ago) link

yeah they do have a pretty comprehensive blueprint of what not to do

anonanon, Friday, 23 May 2014 15:13 (nine years ago) link

I dunno. I think the world is gonna be more than okay with watered down space-economics

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 May 2014 15:32 (nine years ago) link

i tried to show a homie the redlettermedia takedown videos and he got visibly upset about 8 minutes in, he really loves the prequels and it was shitty of me to put on a youtube of some guy doing a character voice saying he was an idiot for it

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Friday, 23 May 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link

I dunno. I think the world is gonna be more than okay with watered down space-economics

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, May 23, 2014 3:32 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

BUT WHAT OF THE TRADE FEDERATION

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 23 May 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link

lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 May 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link

can we place bets on which ethnic stereotype will provide a model for new alien character(s)? They already covered Jamaicans, Jews and the Chinese, I'm gonna go with Indians.

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 May 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link

Cowboys

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 May 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link

back to the british hopefully

balls, Friday, 23 May 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link

yeah that OG Death Star roundtable was basically just tinker tailor soldier spy's "the circus" with a vader cameo.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 23 May 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link

They already covered Jamaicans, Jews and the Chinese, I'm gonna go with Indians.

― Οὖτις, Friday, May 23, 2014 4:23 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wat

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 23 May 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

what this greedy hook-nosed merchant with a thick eastern european accent didn't remind you of anything

http://www.jewornotjew.com/img/people/w/watto.jpg

seriously fuck this franchise forever

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 May 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link

watto, morelike

how's life, Friday, 23 May 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link

didn't know macklemore was in that one

gbx, Friday, 23 May 2014 17:55 (nine years ago) link

watto, morelike

― how's life, Friday, May 23, 2014 5:41 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thatsthejoke.gif

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 23 May 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link

although i thought i remembered watto being despised for being an ~arab~ stereotype, rather than a jewish one? idk

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 23 May 2014 18:28 (nine years ago) link

I don't recall - def coded as Jewish to me when I saw it

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 May 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link

i see there's (only) an anti-semitism subsection on the watto wikipedia page, carry on

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 23 May 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

Looking back now, pretty much all of those horrific ethnic stereotypes were trotted out within the first hour or so of the first movie, right? By halfway through Episode I you'd been introduced to Jar Jar, the Trade Federation and Watto. Were there any notable examples in the later two movies (that weren't additional appearances of these characters from the first one)?

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 May 2014 18:33 (nine years ago) link

but also, from that Wiki:

Patricia J. Williams of The Nation stated that Watto was also described as a stereotype of Arabs, but that he was "more comprehensively anti-Semitic -- both anti-Arab and anti-Jew."

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 May 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link

At least the ethnic stereotypes in the original trilogy relate back to ethnic stereotypes from with the high adventure genre films on which SW is based, i.e. jabba the oriental despot, tusken raiders as excitable natives, etc.

Whereas the prequels seemed to be going out of their way - out of their genre - to reach out, point and laugh at Jamaicans.

cardamon, Friday, 23 May 2014 21:03 (nine years ago) link

Jabba's an "oriental despot"?

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Saturday, 24 May 2014 08:07 (nine years ago) link

i never got that jabba was oriental. i thought he was just fat.

katsu kittens (contenderizer), Saturday, 24 May 2014 08:45 (nine years ago) link

he was originally an Irish geezer

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/78/FordandMulholland.jpg

piscesx, Saturday, 24 May 2014 09:19 (nine years ago) link

http://rt.com/news/jabba-lego-anti-islamic-138/

As far as I know, Jabba's a gangster, not a terrorist. They do have a point about the hookah and the mosque though.

how's life, Saturday, 24 May 2014 09:58 (nine years ago) link

jabba is sydney greenstreet y'all

balls, Saturday, 24 May 2014 14:21 (nine years ago) link

Yeah thats what I took as the inspiration too. I guess there are some evil sultan sorta trappings.

Οὖτις, Saturday, 24 May 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link

He's one of my favourite characters in terms of design.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 24 May 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link

there are a couple echoes there. "the Hutt" vs. "the Hun", Gamorrean Guards vs. eunuchs

a lake full of ancient spices (los blue jeans), Saturday, 24 May 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link

Yeah but at least he's like a vaguely-inspired distillation of old tropes, if Lucas had made Jedi in 1999... I shudder to imagine.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 24 May 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link

If Lucas had made Jedi at all.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 24 May 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link

stop making me do fangirl cartwheels I CAN'T GET EXCITED FOR THIS MOVIE YET, DON'T MAKE ME DO THAT

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 June 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link

This just in from the Star Wars front: Episode VII has cast 12 Years a Slave Oscar-winner Lupita Nyong’o and Game of Thrones’ Gwendoline Christie. From the studio:

Lupita Nyong’o joins the recently announced cast of Star Wars: Episode VII. This year, her breakthrough performance in 12 Years a Slave earned her an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress. Gwendoline Christie, currently starring in the hit television series Game of Thrones as Brienne of Tarth, has also been cast in the production. She can next be seen in The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 2. “I could not be more excited about Lupita and Gwendoline joining the cast of Episode VII,” says Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy. “It’s thrilling to see this extraordinarily talented ensemble taking shape.”

Number None, Monday, 2 June 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link

goddamnit JJ don't you get my hopes up and fuck this up

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 2 June 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link

must

remain

cynical

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 June 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link

You could place bets now as to how many minutes of screentime til he does the Mystery Box twist reveal

Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Monday, 2 June 2014 16:45 (nine years ago) link

jeff garlin sith lord

Sufjenga Cat Giffin (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 2 June 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link

Yeah I was thinking to myself "Sure, they're cast, and then they'll have as much screen time as Jimmy Smits in Episode II."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 June 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link

master jedis played by greg grunberg and matthew fox.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 2 June 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link

haha

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 2 June 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link

lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 June 2014 17:19 (nine years ago) link

How exciting space stuff in a dusty desert. There are other planets in the Star Wars universe right?

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 2 June 2014 17:34 (nine years ago) link

no

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 June 2014 17:35 (nine years ago) link

swamp planet, desert planet, forest planet, that's it

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 June 2014 17:35 (nine years ago) link

star wars catan, basically

Sufjenga Cat Giffin (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 2 June 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link

forest moon, come on man

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 2 June 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link

let's go back to Gwendoline Christie and Lupita Nyong'o being in this and how that excuses pretty much any stupid thing that will invariably be in this movie

On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Monday, 2 June 2014 17:38 (nine years ago) link

"And let us introduce the new ambassador, Jar Jar Binks the Third."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 June 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

they're doing vocodered droid voices

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 2 June 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

yah i have an idea, jj should really shake things up and do a planet that's half UNDERWATER and half ABOVE WATER and the cultures that occupy these two worlds have a SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Monday, 2 June 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link

can't wait for the young hip unorthodox Jedi introduced during a speeder race, blasting "shamrocks and shenanigans" by house of pain.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 2 June 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link

space mermaids!

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 2 June 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link

star wars is way more about desert planets to me than it is about the megacities of the prequels

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 2 June 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link

if Jar Jar had been a double-headed character played by Gwendoline Christie and Lupita Nyong'o, s/he would have been the best character ever created in the Star Wars universe

On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Monday, 2 June 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link

Yeah but surely there can be a planet that is a desert but the sand is grey or pale blue or something, and the sky is red or whatever. Pick up any random sci fi pulp paperback and just rip that off.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 2 June 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link

kinda feels more realistic for lack of a better term, like that civilization would expand out to these weird pioneer old west type settlements.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 2 June 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link

desert planets and saloon fights

Sufjenga Cat Giffin (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 2 June 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link

Firefly/Star Wars crossover

On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Monday, 2 June 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link

major spoiler from set design leaked. don't click if you don't want to know!

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/YzhTl9bs0jI/maxresdefault.jpg

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 June 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

it's a big beehive

Sufjenga Cat Giffin (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 2 June 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link

So cool they've decided to remake A New Hope

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 13:09 (nine years ago) link

Seriously. Hope the MF is just gathering dust under a tarp in Chewbacca's garage or something.

how's life, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 13:14 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxU2eqZtYmc&

Number None, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 13:18 (nine years ago) link

Actually, I kinda hope the movie involves a search to find the MF, a la the missing P-Funk mothership in Maryland.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/11/AR2010041103996.html

how's life, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 13:24 (nine years ago) link

potree

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 13:49 (nine years ago) link

nee jabba no badda

am0n, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link

just leaked

nsfw

am0n, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link

and now we are NSFW

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 19:13 (nine years ago) link

Han Sodeep

Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link

fucking lens flare again

christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link

and Josh Trank to direct the second spinoff movie. They're definitely going for a 'type' with these

Number None, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link

how do you mean

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link

get JiC in here

Sufjenga Cat Giffin (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link

dudes who made a splash with a geek friendly low budget pic then went straight to a big franchise blockbuster

Number None, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link

Lupita Nyong'o's casting in SW7 reminds of jennifer lawrence -- you win awards and accolades for doing a stellar job with a serious role in a great fucking movie, and your success gets you ...... some bullshit role in a dumbass blockbuster action sci/fi movie

marcos, Thursday, 5 June 2014 15:27 (nine years ago) link

ie every American/Brit screen actor's "breakthrough" is gen the last time I like them

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 June 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/EPdC3cM.jpg

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 5 June 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link

some bullshit role in a dumbass blockbuster action sci/fi movie

Well, to be fair, it's probably pretty hard to turn down the huge money. Not to mention that with the Star Wars and Hunger Games being franchises, they get locked into guaranteed multiple picture deals. I don't blame either of 'em. It's not like Lawrence isn't still getting David O. Russell roles. Too early to see what effect it'll have on Nyong'o's career.

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 June 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link

It's not like Lawrence isn't still getting David O. Russell roles

bullshit roles in dumbass post-sellout twee mass-market fake-indie movies

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 June 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link

what a post!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 5 June 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link

Silver linings playbook is a 'great fucking movie'? nb not seen it.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 5 June 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link

It were all Winter's Bones around here once, Jennifer Lawrence could throw a ball in the street, etc. etc.

Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Thursday, 5 June 2014 15:45 (nine years ago) link

yea re: lawrence i wasn't talking about silver linings playbook. i was talking about winter's bone.

marcos, Thursday, 5 June 2014 15:50 (nine years ago) link

morbz otm here btw

marcos, Thursday, 5 June 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link

i'm no film snob, either, i enjoyed a lot of the x-men movies. but seeing lawrence in winter's bone and then as mystique in x-men first class was kind of a fucking travesty. like i will happily see days of future past in the theater and enjoy it but i'd by lying if i said there isn't an underlying absurdity to the whole thing

marcos, Thursday, 5 June 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link

how dare actors cash in? how dare they! please all actors upload the high standards of your audience. for shame!

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 June 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link

make a good film once in awhile imo

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 June 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link

i think she's great in American Hustle actually, not her fault the rest of the cast were cartoon characters

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 June 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link

make a good film once in awhile imo

too much to ask

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 June 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link

wow i forgot just how bad Halle's cat-mask was. like something you'd get at the fair for a laugh.

piscesx, Thursday, 5 June 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link

this is the most aspie thing that ever aspied
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GFW-eEWXlc

all actors upload the high standards of your audience

Typo of the Century

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 June 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link

i think she's great in American Hustle actually, not her fault the rest of the cast were cartoon characters

― djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, June 5, 2014 12:07 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha, i'll assume you're talking about amy adams here. then i would agree.

marcos, Thursday, 5 June 2014 18:41 (nine years ago) link

how dare actors cash in? how dare they! please all actors upload the high standards of your audience. for shame!

― djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, June 5, 2014 12:01 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's not about the actors' choices for me, seems to be the case that if you want to be famous and make a lot of money then nowadays signing on to x-men/superman/batman/spiderman/ironman etc franchises are the way to go. i don't have anything against lupita nyong'o for choosing star wars. it's more about the hollywood production system that rewards great performances in great movies with fucking ludicrous roles in dopey summer blockbuster movies

marcos, Thursday, 5 June 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link

make a good film once in awhile imo

― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, June 5, 2014 12:05 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm. not too much to ask

marcos, Thursday, 5 June 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link

xp it's no different than it's ever been. Nobody's going to get paid the way they want to by appearing in art films or limited-appeal movies.

Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Thursday, 5 June 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link

bullshit no different; the margin has vanished (see John Waters thread)

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link

Haha, OK, what's your argument here exactly? That if Jennifer Lawrence and Lupita N'yongo weren't following up acclaimed performances* with big tentpoles that they'd be running off to do John Waters or Paul Bartel flix and they could get their movies financed?

(*acclaimed in a way that you think is bullshit anyway, so . . .)

Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link

i'm no film snob but i can't deny i'll be watching x-men days of future past and thinking that the fact i recognise its absurd is some unique insight no one else in the theater will be having.

it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link

BRYAN SINGER KILLED JOHN WATERS

Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:29 (nine years ago) link

i make no argument, it's ALL SHIT BYE THREAD BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY BYE PHIL

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link

you are an incoherent fuck btw who didnt even read what i was referring to in the time-honored ile trad so gtfo

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link

"i came into this thread to call everything in it shit but how dare you how very dare you misread my barely coherent bile i'm off now no really i am"

it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link

Haha, OK, what's your argument here exactly? That if Jennifer Lawrence and Lupita N'yongo weren't following up acclaimed performances* with big tentpoles that they'd be running off to do John Waters or Paul Bartel flix and they could get their movies financed?

(*acclaimed in a way that you think is bullshit anyway, so . . .)

― Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Thursday, June 5, 2014 3:26 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

think i have a lower bar than morbz here, i'm just asking for some good movies. i don't even know who paul bartel is and i haven't watch a john waters flick since the early 2000s when my film nerd ex-brother-in-law showed me "pecker"

marcos, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link

pecker is a dope movie

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link

ha yea it was pretty good

marcos, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:27 (nine years ago) link

Princess Leia's penis is finally revealed

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:46 (nine years ago) link

Being called incoherent by Dr Morbius is like being called obese by Fatty Arbuckle.

Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:52 (nine years ago) link

And as far as "good movies," obviously everyone's standards are different, and what you're getting from Hollywood is no different from any other country's film industry. For every Apu Trilogy there's an Indian Spider-Man, and not every movie that comes out of France and Germany is Amour. The tentpoles make the money that finance the other stuff (just like in publishing) and if Hollywood is going to make this stuff anyway, I'd prefer they use interesting directors and actors to elevate the quality a bit, instead of soap opera has-beens and journeymen or McG.

Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link

The tentpoles make the money that finance the other stuff

there is less and less other stuff every year

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link

How do you make this garbage disappear? Assassinate Lucas, Abrams and nuke the parent studio? No because some fucking other worthless arsehole would still want to make this garbage for another few decades. You just have to accept that This Shit is going to bury you and piss on your grave. You are trapped in history and there is no fucking FF button. It is a bitter pill to swallow, but it could be worse.

xelab, Thursday, 5 June 2014 21:00 (nine years ago) link

Xp (citation needed)

Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Thursday, 5 June 2014 21:01 (nine years ago) link

hey man its just some movies

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 5 June 2014 21:01 (nine years ago) link

gr8080 otm

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 June 2014 21:14 (nine years ago) link

How do you make this garbage disappear? Assassinate Lucas, Abrams and nuke the parent studio? No because some fucking other worthless arsehole would still want to make this garbage for another few decades. You just have to accept that This Shit is going to bury you and piss on your grave. You are trapped in history and there is no fucking FF button. It is a bitter pill to swallow, but it could be worse.

jesus wept

it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Thursday, 5 June 2014 22:30 (nine years ago) link

what scares me about that post is the "it could be worse" end. if it's already at the point of assassinations and nuclear bombs, what would be done in an even "worse" situation? the mind boggles.

or, more accurately, doesn't give a shit.

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 June 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link

Every Star Wars thread eventually gets the utility meter data it deserves.

Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Thursday, 5 June 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link

did you guys miss that amazing 20 minute shot where xavier visits an emaciated magneto in prison and tries to convince him to eat something?

Philip Nunez, Friday, 6 June 2014 04:45 (nine years ago) link

It's definitely kind of sad that actors are willing to just completely abandon any idea of credibility or gravitas for whatever money they can get but the bigger problem here that is, for example, willing to see 7+ Fast and the Furious movies with returns that are actually increasing rather than diminishing.

I mean would Dustin Hoffman have signed up for the equivalent of 20m per movie for some dumbshit film franchise in 1977? Maybe! But the American public didn't make total dumbshit like that possible back then, by the time you got to the 3rd or 4th movie they sensibly got bored.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 6 June 2014 05:01 (nine years ago) link

i don't think things have changed that much tbh. Hackman doing The Poseidon Adventure, Burt Lancaster doing Airport etc..

piscesx, Friday, 6 June 2014 05:03 (nine years ago) link

but the top grossing movies of 1970 weren't all airports.

fit and working again, Friday, 6 June 2014 05:34 (nine years ago) link

How do you make this garbage disappear? Assassinate Lucas, Abrams and nuke the parent studio? No because some fucking other worthless arsehole would still want to make this garbage for another few decades. You just have to accept that This Shit is going to bury you and piss on your grave. You are trapped in history and there is no fucking FF button. It is a bitter pill to swallow, but it could be worse.

― xelab, Thursday, June 5, 2014 10:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

marry me

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 June 2014 06:34 (nine years ago) link

i'm kind of okay with bad movies existing

riot grillz (contenderizer), Friday, 6 June 2014 06:41 (nine years ago) link

i have little ish with things existing

but i'm not in for a scrap, i just wanted to kiss xelab

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 June 2014 06:48 (nine years ago) link

understandable

riot grillz (contenderizer), Friday, 6 June 2014 07:32 (nine years ago) link

there's a rhetorical elision that happens sometimes when you go "these pieces of popular culture are for shit" and yr interlocutor gets very "ugh you think popular culture is for shit"

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 June 2014 07:43 (nine years ago) link

troo, but it's more that i'm honestly baffled by reactions stronger than bovine indifference where things like action movies are concerned. the passion has died within me.

riot grillz (contenderizer), Friday, 6 June 2014 07:50 (nine years ago) link

red lobster, otoh...

riot grillz (contenderizer), Friday, 6 June 2014 07:50 (nine years ago) link

absolutely my default position is to blithely let things go by me without worrying bout it god we're derailing the thread aren't we there shd be another one to discuss your relationship to shit people enthuse about that you think isn't very good or worthwhile

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 June 2014 07:51 (nine years ago) link

i think that thread is called "ILX"

riot grillz (contenderizer), Friday, 6 June 2014 07:54 (nine years ago) link

tomorrow i'm going to watch makavejev movies featuring naked people and not worry about star wars, which will doubtless continue to be shit

riot grillz (contenderizer), Friday, 6 June 2014 07:57 (nine years ago) link

and not every movie that comes out of France and Germany is Amour

lol it's a good job morbz is no longer reading this thread

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 6 June 2014 08:01 (nine years ago) link

was gonna rip on Haneke but it's like shooting a whale in a pint glass

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 June 2014 08:03 (nine years ago) link

there were no bad movies before 1998. now george lucas runs the ministry of culture & will not let michael haneke remake code unknown for the chinese markets.

schlump, Friday, 6 June 2014 11:48 (nine years ago) link

i'm not angry that action/scifi movies exist. i'm not even annoyed that action/scifi movies exist. like i said i'm not a film snob by any stretch and i enjoy action/scifi movies every once in a while, and there are plenty of really great, well-made ones! just annoyed that it seems like there are basically 4-6 good hollywood movies made per year out of the 500-600 that are released per year. like i said i don't fault any actor for taking the money for some bullshit, i would probably do the same, it's more a yearning for some decent movies and a desire to see good actors rewarded with more good roles and good movies! it's also more a yearning for hollywood to make movies for people other than 12-24 year old males and little kids

marcos, Friday, 6 June 2014 13:13 (nine years ago) link

that said i will probably see star wars 7 and enjoy some parts of it even if the rest of it will probably suck as bad as the prequels

marcos, Friday, 6 June 2014 13:14 (nine years ago) link

i think we're all going to be ok

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Friday, 6 June 2014 15:08 (nine years ago) link

as xelab said it could be worse

marcos, Friday, 6 June 2014 15:17 (nine years ago) link

otm there could be ~no more movies at all~ think abt it

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Friday, 6 June 2014 15:25 (nine years ago) link

it seems like there are basically 4-6 good hollywood movies made per year out of the 500-600 that are released per year. like i said i don't fault any actor for taking the money for some bullshit, i would probably do the same, it's more a yearning for some decent movies and a desire to see good actors rewarded with more good roles and good movies! it's also more a yearning for hollywood to make movies for people other than 12-24 year old males and little kids

― marcos, Friday, June 6, 2014 6:13 AM (3 hours ago)

eh, there are more interesting movies released every year than any sane person could reasonably keep up with. glut of michael bay bullshit can be safely ignored if one so chooses.

riot grillz (contenderizer), Friday, 6 June 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link

4-6 is extraordinarily generous

Who whom kissed? (imago), Friday, 6 June 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link

movies for people other than 12-24 year old males and little kids

after having kids I now realize just how few movies in the theaters are actually appropriate for children - at any given time there's usually one, and that's it. The 12-35 (or whatever range it is) of males is really the demo everything is targeted to. Everybody else is just expected to suck it up.

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 June 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link

keep up the good fight, guys

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Friday, 6 June 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link

eh, there are more interesting movies released every year than any sane person could reasonably keep up with. glut of michael bay bullshit can be safely ignored if one so chooses.

― riot grillz (contenderizer), Friday, June 6, 2014 12:24 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's fair. just hard to do 11 out of 12 months a year when you want to go a movie theater to see something.

marcos, Friday, 6 June 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link

I wouldn't mind all of the comic book and superhero shit if it felt like it was still neatly balanced out by more movies for adults. and I'd mind it less if every franchise didn't feel the need to saturate the screens with sequels and spinoffs every other month. it's pretty exhausting.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 6 June 2014 16:45 (nine years ago) link

looks like the Millennium Falcon is alive, and it saw What Lies Beneath and Ender's Game!

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/harrison-ford-injured-star-wars-set-hospital/story?id=24110941

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 June 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link

I only just read the other day that the Millenium Falcon was used as a building in Blade Runner: http://www.blastr.com/2013-4-10/little-known-sci-fi-fact-millennium-falcon-appeared-blade-runner

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 20 June 2014 06:07 (nine years ago) link

Okay, I officially Give A Shit about the sequels. http://www.deadline.com/2014/06/star-wars-rian-johnson-director-next-two-movies/

Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Friday, 20 June 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link

wow!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 20 June 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link

Joseph Gordon-Levitt in Alec Guiness makeup

Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Friday, 20 June 2014 18:51 (nine years ago) link

Ugh Brick is so terrible fuck that guy

Οὖτις, Friday, 20 June 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link

^offtm

I give a fuck now

What Is It Like To Be A HOOS? (silby), Friday, 20 June 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link

clone army of nora zehetners

goole, Friday, 20 June 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link

xxp yes, but have you seen the brothers bloom?

Pew Nornographers (contenderizer), Friday, 20 June 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link

Looper's not half bad

mh, Friday, 20 June 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link

http://www.avclub.com/article/rian-johnson-handling-next-two-star-wars-movies-206072

These films are not due until I am well into my 40s. Jesus Christ.

Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Friday, 20 June 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link

I give a fuck now

― What Is It Like To Be A HOOS? (silby), Friday, June 20, 2014 7:00 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ what it is like to be a HOOS

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 20 June 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link

Looper's not half bad

I gave up exactly halfway through looper because I felt like I had already seen the good half of it.

lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 20 June 2014 19:28 (nine years ago) link

nah, the last half is the payoff

mh, Friday, 20 June 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link

probably the best breaking bad director right?

balls, Friday, 20 June 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link

^^^

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Friday, 20 June 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link

underrated aerosmith even money to appear in nu cantina scene

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 June 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link

omg

What Is It Like To Be A HOOS? (silby), Friday, 20 June 2014 21:01 (nine years ago) link

probably the best breaking bad director right?

― balls, Friday, June 20, 2014 8:37 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

definitely

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6geiN6VZIME

Number None, Friday, 20 June 2014 22:30 (nine years ago) link

35 fuckin years of totally ignoring star wars ruined in one day

Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 20 June 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link

you had a good (kessel) run (in 12 parsecs)

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Friday, 20 June 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link

Brick's terrible, Brothers Bloom didn't quite work, Looper's pretty good.

Rrrhhhh (abanana), Sunday, 22 June 2014 01:31 (nine years ago) link

johnson is probably one of the best directors you could hope was attached to a franchise like this. it's not like johnnie to was going to sign on, or something.

brothers bloom was the most slavishly imitative wes anderson ripoff in a wide field of wes anderson ripoffs. it wasn't terrible, but honestly i don't remember a thing about it other than being amazed at how overt the wes anderson borrowings were.

I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 22 June 2014 01:46 (nine years ago) link

huh, gareth edwards is directing a "spinoff"? which one is that? i had thought he was directing episode 7.

I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 22 June 2014 01:47 (nine years ago) link

Self contained movie about boba fett or yoda or greedo or someone.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Sunday, 22 June 2014 02:04 (nine years ago) link

They should do a Han Solo one and a Greedo one because it'd be interesting to see which one they started "shooting first" HA HA HA HA

maybe it'll be like rashomon, and everyone is telling the truth

I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 22 June 2014 02:20 (nine years ago) link

or everybody's lying i forget which

I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 22 June 2014 02:20 (nine years ago) link

are they going to effectively ret-con jar jar out of this whole thing?

I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 22 June 2014 02:21 (nine years ago) link

Why would they do that to one of the series' most beloved characters?

Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Sunday, 22 June 2014 02:34 (nine years ago) link

First spin off film actually to be entitled Binks Begins.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Sunday, 22 June 2014 02:37 (nine years ago) link

meesa beginnin in dissa film!!

mh, Sunday, 22 June 2014 03:07 (nine years ago) link

I think Gaspar Noë will be entrusted with the Jar Jar film.

I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 22 June 2014 03:32 (nine years ago) link

Into Deesa Void!

Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Sunday, 22 June 2014 03:33 (nine years ago) link

Irrebinksible

brothers bloom was the most slavishly imitative wes anderson ripoff in a wide field of wes anderson ripoffs. it wasn't terrible, but honestly i don't remember a thing about it other than being amazed at how overt the wes anderson borrowings were.

― I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, June 21, 2014 9:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes it was kind of wild how wanderson damaged it was

socki (s1ocki), Sunday, 22 June 2014 04:16 (nine years ago) link

yeah a better word than overt would be "brazen"

I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 22 June 2014 04:47 (nine years ago) link

sure, so long as we're tiptoeing around "shit"

Pew Nornographers (contenderizer), Sunday, 22 June 2014 06:57 (nine years ago) link

never saw brothers bloom, liked looper, thought that brick was p garbage but maybe i should give it a second chance i dunno

gbx, Sunday, 22 June 2014 07:26 (nine years ago) link

Director less important than producers

abcfsk, Sunday, 22 June 2014 09:25 (nine years ago) link

Or action figure margins.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 22 June 2014 13:00 (nine years ago) link

I think it's important to remember that the best-ever Star Wars film was directed by the guy who'd done Eyes of Laura Mars and the Barbra Streisand vehicle Up the Sandbox.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 June 2014 13:12 (nine years ago) link

I neither want to have any interest in new Star Wars movies nor for Johnson to get derailed for seven years from making his own stories

rage against martin sheen (sic), Sunday, 22 June 2014 14:56 (nine years ago) link

rewatched Brick in a pub this week, still adored its swagger

rage against martin sheen (sic), Sunday, 22 June 2014 14:57 (nine years ago) link

him getting 'derailed' is a big assumption

btw i don't see anything definitive about him directing IX

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 June 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link

lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 2 July 2014 14:19 (nine years ago) link

I listened to one of his Batman podcasts the other day (not knowing that it was him until I started listening). When did he start sounding like a good ol' boy? The "this old Bantha Tracks subscriber's tears" line really reads in that tone.

how's life, Wednesday, 2 July 2014 14:41 (nine years ago) link

i've heard tell his batman podcast is good. but that man long ago squandered whatever good will clerks had earned him from me.

The Littlest Boho (stevie), Wednesday, 2 July 2014 14:46 (nine years ago) link

a kevin smith podcast about batman sounds great, yeah

online hardman, Wednesday, 2 July 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link

Worth it for his guests

Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Wednesday, 2 July 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link

his podcasts are pretty amazing imo. well the ones i've heard. decent guy by all accounts.

piscesx, Wednesday, 2 July 2014 22:29 (nine years ago) link

dislike him on principle imo

schlump, Wednesday, 2 July 2014 23:24 (nine years ago) link

"

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 2 July 2014 23:28 (nine years ago) link

The podcast was pretty good! I just didn't realize it was him at first.

how's life, Thursday, 3 July 2014 00:37 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5tjrDyK6uk
Ho ho ho ho ho ho! AHhhh ahh ahh hhah hah. Yeeaaaaauggggeeeehhh.

three weeks pass...

I have no desire to see a Star Wars movie that has the guy from Girls in the cast.

calstars, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link

Ho ho ho ho ho ho! AHhhh ahh ahh hhah hah. Yeeaaaaauggggeeeehhh.

Cool. Fan made I guess?

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 01:30 (nine years ago) link

CGI Millennium Falcon looks wack. And a Star Destroyer crashing into an ocean? Nope.

calstars, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 12:41 (nine years ago) link

star destroyer tumbles into the sea

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 13:05 (nine years ago) link

What's wrong with a Star Destroyer crashing into an ocean?

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 13:05 (nine years ago) link

xp: lol

how's life, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 13:06 (nine years ago) link

Those look great tho

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 13:08 (nine years ago) link

I just know these or all of these movies will feature some huge ship crashing into a planet/city, which has become the sci-fi blockbuster equivalent of outrunning an explosion. I am pretty sick of it. We get it. These ships are big.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 13:10 (nine years ago) link

Guess I've got a pretty high tolerance for huge ships crashing into shit. Still find it generally entertaining.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 13:11 (nine years ago) link

I ws seeing it more in a "Look at the supposedly awesome Star Destroyer made tiny by the endless ocean" type way actually, myself

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 13:22 (nine years ago) link

all three of those just look really dumb to me personally

also i had dream last nite that episode 7 was called "SPORTS" and was all about some sort of intergalactic olympics

╲╱\/╲/\╱╲╱\/\ (gr8080), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 13:36 (nine years ago) link

WAR

AFTERMATH

would be a wonderfully awful tagline

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:10 (nine years ago) link

STAR WARS 7: A WAR AFTERMATH

ledge, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:17 (nine years ago) link

Ho ho ho ho ho ho! AHhhh ahh ahh hhah hah. Yeeaaaaauggggeeeehhh.

ciderpress, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:19 (nine years ago) link

The whole new trilogy just looks at the environmental/social impacts of the previous three, sounds good

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:23 (nine years ago) link

Is there a separate thread for Rian Johnson writing & directing Episode VIII? Getting ahead of myself here...

Your Ribs are My Ladder, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:34 (nine years ago) link

Star Wars 8 shit talk

ciderpress, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:39 (nine years ago) link

all three of those just look really dumb to me personally

― ╲╱\/╲/\╱╲╱\/\ (gr8080)

otm

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/screencrush.com/files/2013/04/star_trek_into_darkness_poster_enterprise.jpg

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link

http://www.pixeljoint.com/files/icons/jabba3.gif

am0n, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:22 (nine years ago) link

The whole new trilogy just looks at the environmental/social impacts of the previous three, sounds good

― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, August 27, 2014 9:23 AM (56 minutes ago)

this could actually be incredible if done right

╲╱\/╲/\╱╲╱\/\ (gr8080), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:22 (nine years ago) link

the deforested moon of endor

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link

can u imagine what kind of a wretched hive of scum and villainy mos eisly would be during an economic downturn?

╲╱\/╲/\╱╲╱\/\ (gr8080), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:25 (nine years ago) link

more Hutts to be fatcats

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link

no, fewer, but Hutt himself gets even fatter

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link

bespin has outsourced all its manufacturing to jawas.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link

butt hutt

am0n, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link

jabba the butthurt

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link

star destroyer tumbles into the sea

that'll be the day I go back to tatooine

star destroyer dwarfed by endless ocean is kind of a flawed concept seeing as its usual context is space

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link

i like that u can see the planet's curve a lil tho. no idea how that tagline's supposed to be parsed.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link

guys i'm so into the idea of a socialist realist star wars that i'm sort of bummed it will never be

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:50 (nine years ago) link

palpatine benevolently holding flowers next to a flourishing moisture farm

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link

Truth & Reconciliation Committee looks into the time the Separatists gassed that colony of Gungans.

http://i.imgur.com/atHiCTgl.jpg

Welcome to my spooooooky carnival! Hope I don't... blow your mind! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:57 (nine years ago) link

army of the new republic brings back the lil colored squares by star wars 8

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link

Everyone's getting very worked up and overexcited about some fanart OTT.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 28 August 2014 02:11 (nine years ago) link

the posters or the movie

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 28 August 2014 02:15 (nine years ago) link

guys i'm so into the idea of a socialist realist star wars that i'm sort of bummed it will never be

i dunno if you've heard, but george lucas has some heavy trade negotiation star wars concepts 4 u

Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Thursday, 28 August 2014 02:23 (nine years ago) link

Chap personally I just thought they were p cool for fanart, not expecting/hoping for anything frm the movies rly

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Thursday, 28 August 2014 05:35 (nine years ago) link

Did anybody read the Dark Horse "The Star Wars" series, which is based on GL's first draft, and shows why screenplays need iteration before actually making something?

Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Thursday, 28 August 2014 05:52 (nine years ago) link

was interested in it and thought about picking it up now that the trade is out but haven't gone for it, haven't read any other SW comics.

heck (silby), Thursday, 28 August 2014 06:05 (nine years ago) link

I've been thinking about dipping my toes into star wars comics, but haven't given much thought about where to start.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 09:08 (nine years ago) link

start here:

Star Wars: Legacy

http://d2lzb5v10mb0lj.cloudfront.net/covers_tfaw/400/1/13459.jpg

Written by John Ostrander, takes place a century after Jedi.

Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Thursday, 28 August 2014 09:26 (nine years ago) link

damn that is some hot cartoon star wars

and if it's a century later, how come they got the exact same guns & shit?

Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Thursday, 28 August 2014 11:08 (nine years ago) link

Not exactly the same, apparently in 100 years the female guerilla fashion in the SW universe evolved from "practical and unisex" to "pointless high heels and boob windows", a la superhero comics.

Tuomas, Thursday, 28 August 2014 11:13 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, the cover isn't really doing it for me. I might give it a chance at some point, but was hoping for something with a more 80s comic aesthetic. Any thoughts on the best runs from the "A Long Time Ago" Omnibus series? I see there are some Claremont and Simonson credits in there.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 12:13 (nine years ago) link

i dunno if you've heard, but george lucas has some heavy trade negotiation star wars concepts 4 u

― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:23 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:50 (nine years ago) link

Also, most recent movie rife with Jedicide.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:55 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://comicbook.com/2014/09/10/star-wars-episode-vii-millennium-falcon-and-x-wing-revealed-in-a/:

FlyMAC @FlyMAC_Popham

Last tweet for the night. I spotted this at the weekend whilst #flying over Greenham Common. #StarWarsEpisodeVII

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxIDO_kIIAAv9O6.jpg

Welcome to my spooooooky carnival! Hope I don't... blow your mind! (Phil D.), Friday, 12 September 2014 15:05 (nine years ago) link

Weren't they just miniatures and backdrops in the originals? oh, jj.

alanbatman (abanana), Friday, 12 September 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, but its better than shitty CGI.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 September 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link

he's building fully functional spaceships.

wmlynch, Friday, 12 September 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link

star wars: episode 7: latino review

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 12 September 2014 21:03 (nine years ago) link

star wars episode 7 is a DARPA project now

Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 12 September 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link

There was definitely a full size Falcon (or a sizable chunk of one) and full size x-wings built for the OT.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 12 September 2014 23:31 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, the scenes in cargo bays or in the base on Hoth, where you really have the sense that people are clambering around these things, slapping their sides, etc. - CGI has nothing on that for making the movies feel real, and for making people love those vehicles, IMO.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 13 September 2014 01:43 (nine years ago) link

you also have to make the evil starships sound like they are screaming bloody murder as they fly by

Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 13 September 2014 01:56 (nine years ago) link

So yeah, you guys are right.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/south_west/4555455.stm

alanbatman (abanana), Saturday, 13 September 2014 03:27 (nine years ago) link

I have it on good authority they're building a full size replica of Chewbacca's house from the Star Wwas Holiday Special

Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Saturday, 13 September 2014 08:33 (nine years ago) link

Someone who claims to have seen the concept drawings for Daisy Ridley's character, draws her costume from memory.

http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/Daisy-Ridley-Star-Wars-Image-1.jpg

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Saturday, 13 September 2014 09:31 (nine years ago) link

BELT IS BROWN

socki (s1ocki), Saturday, 13 September 2014 15:12 (nine years ago) link

all this eager anticipation is really bumming me out. I keep hoping it's studio astroturf.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 13 September 2014 15:17 (nine years ago) link

"Studio Astroturf" is the name of Daisy Ridley's character believe it or not

Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Saturday, 13 September 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link

star wars: episode 7: latino review

― socki (s1ocki), Friday, September 12, 2014 9:03 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

key revelation

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 15 September 2014 13:48 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

as someone who could gaf about star wars, this is surprisingly good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjsFAZWnA00#t=1m0s

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 04:57 (nine years ago) link

yeah i only got about half an hour into it the other night but boy its a good time

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 13:53 (nine years ago) link

Skippy?

LB-426 (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 01:30 (nine years ago) link

might as well be

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 01:43 (nine years ago) link

emperor shmi skywalker palpatine =O

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 02:08 (nine years ago) link

sheev mike

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 08:18 (nine years ago) link

Is there a favorite wookieepedia facts thread? I enjoyed this from their R5-series article:

Because of their inexpensive construction, however, droids of this series were plagued by a number of design flaws—most obviously, a sullen demeanor and sharp attitude resulting from deficiencies in the machine's personality matrix. Media outlets soon picked up on these errors: Mechtech Illustrated called the R5 model "a meter-tall stack of the worst business decisions you could possibly want."

...and Lou Reed as Dr. Eldon Tyrell (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 08:27 (nine years ago) link

When did Kathleen Kennedy change her last name to "Bliuj?"

bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Monday, 3 November 2014 19:10 (nine years ago) link

what the hell, last i heard harrison ford's leg or whatever was still healing

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 04:50 (nine years ago) link

right around 2.30 i kinda lost my shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-R070qHYw

Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 05:35 (nine years ago) link

also recommend the star trek one

Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 05:39 (nine years ago) link

I just watched both and they're great.

Brocktoon Tanuki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 05:50 (nine years ago) link

IT'S A TRICK

Simon H., Tuesday, 4 November 2014 06:07 (nine years ago) link

this is pretty great, if old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJQ4vCu-S0U
"wookies"

abanana, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 07:20 (nine years ago) link

"The Force Awakens"

anonanon, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link

:/

anonanon, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link

Star Wars Episode IX: The Force A-seepins

A Marvelous Pizza-Viewing Experience (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link

Better than "The Phantom Menace" at least.

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link

Better than "The Phantom Menace" at least.

Is it? I mean "The Phantom Menace" was a crummy movie, but the title is decent. "The Force Awakens" is like some SW fan board speculation shit.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link

weirdly psyched, but I expect the series won't really get into gear until Star Wars Episode VIII: The Force Finishes Its Coffee

da croupier, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link

At least they haven't gone with EPISODE VII dominating the title. Yet.

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:34 (nine years ago) link

"uh oh, episode seven! the force awakens!" - cool dads welcoming their kids to the breakfast table in 2015

da croupier, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link

"uh oh, episode two! attack of the clones!" - cool dads getting woken up by their screaming twins in 2002

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

I was gonna make a morning wood joke

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link

You're thinking of the Schwartz.

A Marvelous Pizza-Viewing Experience (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link

"Uh Oh, Episode IV, A New Hope!" Cool dads trying in vain to forestall a divorce in 1977.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link

anybody calling star wars "episode iv a new hope" in 1977 wasn't cool

da croupier, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link

Given that he would've had to be a psychic, I'd say he was pretty cool.

I'm In The Mood To Munch! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link

The 1980 sequel, Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back, featured the episode number and subtitle in the opening crawl. When the original film was re-released on April 10, 1981, Episode IV: A New Hope was added above the original opening crawl.

I feel dirty.

I'm In The Mood To Munch! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link

i feel better for not knowing that phrase wasn't even in the crawl

da croupier, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link

old lunch is a jaymc sock?

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link

I don't even care all that much about Star Wars and that's far from the nerdiest trivia I know about the franchise. Gah.

jaymc is way too cool to slum it as me. Come on, dude.

I'm In The Mood To Munch! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:53 (nine years ago) link

Cool dads in 1982 when the British navy was sent to reclaim the Falklands: "Uh oh, Episode IV, The Empire Strikes Back!"

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link

"The Force Awakens"? JJ Abrams? Let's just move on from this one already.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:02 (nine years ago) link

i'm going to give it a chance bc some non-lucas journeymen hacks directed a pair of excellent SW films, but the problem with abrams is he's a hack who thinks he's an auteur and has somehow been given the power of one.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link

prediction: the teaser poster is going to be a super-closeup on yoda's eye

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:09 (nine years ago) link

ha xp

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:09 (nine years ago) link

Cool dads in 1982 when the British navy was sent to reclaim the Falklands: "Uh oh, Episode IV, The Empire Strikes Back!"

You can't fool me. I remember this cover over here:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-86sX3yNQwNM/T3rCW68Nq9I/AAAAAAAAAyU/091nWO3GUQQ/s1600/sc00027d7f.jpg

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:09 (nine years ago) link

harrison ford prepares for the awakening

http://rs283.pbsrc.com/albums/kk297/Blondie-Wan/Harrison1XP_468x808.jpg~c200

da croupier, Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:15 (nine years ago) link

"The Force Awakens"? JJ Abrams? Let's just move on from this one already.

― Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:02 AM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, you can The Force Awaken me when Rian Johnson's comes out

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link

i think this title is v. stupid but i guess it's tradition to give these things embarrassing names now

you little affront to god (reddening), Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link

It's arguably a better name than "Phantom Menace"

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link

Shit Wars

Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link

the phantom menace
attack of the clones
revenge of the sith
a new hope
the empire strikes back
return of the jedi
the force awakens

i feel like we're missing an event between the jedi returning and the force awakening. specifically when the force went to bed after the jedi returned

da croupier, Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link

like star wars vii should be "hey isn't that the dude from girls LOOK OUT" and then the force awakens in viii

da croupier, Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link

Maybe the whole movie is framed flashback.

Luke Jr: Daddy, where did the force come from?
Middle-aged Luke: Well son, I'll tell ya...

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link

When a midichlorian loves another midichlorian very much...

Brocktoon Tanuki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link

Haha.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link

but the problem with abrams is he's a hack who thinks he's an auteur and has somehow been given the power of one.

This is LHC accurate everyone please read again.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link

APPARENTLY it will be called Episode VII in the opening crawl but that is NOT part of the official title

guess Disney are trying to get away from episode numbers due to infinite spinoffs

Number None, Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link

APPARENTLY it will be called Episode VII in the opening crawl but that is NOT part of the official title

How wonderful to live in a cultural landscape in which sentences such as this make even the slightest bit of sense.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link

Spinoffs/standalones to be given things like "Episode 7.5: That Han Solo Jawn"

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link

It could have been almost any one of these titles and I would have been happier.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ewoks_%28Marvel%29

how's life, Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:19 (nine years ago) link

"The Perilous Laughing Spell" would've been a helluva bold move

Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:24 (nine years ago) link

I have seen both Ewok movies fwiw

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link

STAR WARS EPISODE 7: THAT GREEN RABBIT GUY FROM THE COMIX

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link

never forget
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130925225715/starwars/images/1/13/Jaxxon.jpg

Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:29 (nine years ago) link

I watched one of them when it came on TV back in the 80s and it scared me too much to make it through. An Ewok gets killed or something? A scary monster? I don't know. I had been waiting to watch it for weeks but I couldn't hack.

how's life, Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:30 (nine years ago) link

Star Wars Episode VII: The Way To Succeed And The Way To Suck Eggs

I'm In The Mood To Munch! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:39 (nine years ago) link

lol

how's life, Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link

Rabbit guy actually seems like a viable character in a post-Guardians of the Galaxy world

Number None, Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link

you can The Force Awaken me when Rian Johnson's comes out

yeah, you'll be able to tell the difference, rrrright

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:53 (nine years ago) link

David Fincher's STAR WARS EPISODE SE7EN

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link

shouldn't it be "the force REawakens" or something -- would be a nice tip o the hat to the "reboot" as well

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 6 November 2014 21:09 (nine years ago) link

The Force Goes Back to Sleep

Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 November 2014 21:10 (nine years ago) link

The Force is going to manifest itself as a sentient being. It's going to look like the most awesome action figure ever.

Øystein, Thursday, 6 November 2014 21:14 (nine years ago) link

Han Solo, Wake Up and Wipe Your Shirt

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 November 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link

xpost
http://www.oafe.net/shocka/art/rocky1tm2.jpg

I'm In The Mood To Munch! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 November 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link

they should just call it "star wars vii: the reboot"

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 6 November 2014 21:43 (nine years ago) link

Abrams: "But what if this time Luke is Vader's dad? Eh? Eh?"
Disney: "Here is your money, J.J. Abrams."

I'm In The Mood To Munch! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 November 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link

i loved that rumor about how after harrison hurt his foot jj and company pleaded with disney for more time so they could really do the series justice and disney was like "we give zero fucks if you do the series justice" because no one there actually cares about this property

da croupier, Thursday, 6 November 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link

between marvel and pixar and their own shit this is just some geek business guaranteed to pump up the bottom line even if it's garbage as proven by the prequels

da croupier, Thursday, 6 November 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link

As far as the Walt Disney Corporation is concerned, a plea for something that will do justice to the Star Wars property is probably on par with a plea by a Disney Store regional manager for an increase in man hours to ensure that the window displays are exquisite.

I'm In The Mood To Munch! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 November 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link

yeah i mean the good news is if rian johnson writes a pearl of a script disney will probably be like "sure, whatevs" assuming the numbers crunch appropriately

da croupier, Thursday, 6 November 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link

where as marvel brass have ambitions beyond sucking the corpse dry

da croupier, Thursday, 6 November 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link

Spinoffs/standalones to be given things like "Episode 7.5: That Han Solo Jawn"

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:09 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

key post

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 6 November 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link

strangely it's taken until hearing about this title for me to finally accept that JJ's star wars is gonna be complete shit

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 6 November 2014 23:14 (nine years ago) link

none of the prequel titles were even close to this bad

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 7 November 2014 00:37 (nine years ago) link

the force is an energy that suffuses all things and goes to sleep sometimes

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 7 November 2014 00:39 (nine years ago) link

"hey looks like you guys are handling this ok with your laser swords, gonna crash for a while. peace out."

Brocktoon Tanuki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 7 November 2014 00:43 (nine years ago) link

If the Ewoks dont learn how to use the fore i am goign to be fuckenpissed

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Friday, 7 November 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link

u&k

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 November 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link

nothing wrong with "the force awakens", it's as pulpy as any of the others

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 November 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link

you gotta remember, maximum pulp is gonna get us through this ting

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 November 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link

^^^ love "whiny voice Vader"

Tracer OTM

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 7 November 2014 22:22 (nine years ago) link

maybe force awakens means everyone has the force now, ewoks included, and this is going to be 2.5 hours of shit flying everywhere. i'm in.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 7 November 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link

I'm expecting about 60% "You're pushing all the right buttons for this old timer, JJ" and 40% "Now why'd he have to go and do that obvious move aimed at the Millenials" from this film. With it skewing more and more toward the latter response as the series continues.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 7 November 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link

60% quality sound mix 40% lens flares

da croupier, Friday, 7 November 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link

Yes, I'm old. And, yes, I wanna see Chewieand the gang blast shit. And Luke pulling back some cowl or Jedi hoodie he's wearing upon first appearance- because you know this is gonna happen. An essential SW shot - and the audience losing their shit.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 7 November 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link

That, too, da croupier

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 7 November 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link

this movie is going to be 2.5 hours of dumb time travel shit

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 7 November 2014 22:49 (nine years ago) link

I heard that was "Interstellar"

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 7 November 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link

imagining a nolan SW, all lightsabers are grey or black, midichlorians are a main plot point

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 7 November 2014 23:09 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plwVRYEQG_I

nate woolls, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 23:41 (nine years ago) link

fan made

abanana, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 23:44 (nine years ago) link

That's a fan made fake.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 23:44 (nine years ago) link

I had to watch ROTJ this weekend (at my daughter's request) and man... what a stupid movie. I mean even without the new Sy Snootles song and Hayden Christiansen at the end it's just so weirdly empty.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 23:47 (nine years ago) link

Ah well. That trailer is well done though.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 23:48 (nine years ago) link

That is an excellent trailer. I wish the actual film had this tone. Not expecting that to happen.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 02:03 (nine years ago) link

My takeaway from that trailer is that I am about 10 times as interested in seeing (or even hearing) more Han Solo than any of the rest of these bozos.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 11:50 (nine years ago) link

I'm more interested in new characters and the less of the old ones we see the better

tbrr Luke is going to be the old character most used

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link

aaaaand they're already offline :((((((((((((

you fuck one chud... (stevie), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link

psyched for the light saber roller derby battle scene, gonna be dope

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link

all kinds of scenes with light sabers just flippin, flappin, twistin around. epic night time desert battle scene where the camera slowly pans up into the sky and you just see tens of thousands of light sabers flashing, then cut to a camera in the center of it all, it's like being in the middle of an exploding christmas display, just saber flashes, ten straight minutes of saber flashes

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link

Deleted Magic is available in All The Usual Outlets *taps nose*.

piscesx, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link

Official trailer to be online from Friday on something called 'itunestrailers'.

piscesx, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 22:57 (nine years ago) link

That would be the Apple Trailers site.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 27 November 2014 00:26 (nine years ago) link

would laugh my tits off if this trailer was nothing but orange and teal

then I would cry.

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Thursday, 27 November 2014 00:57 (nine years ago) link

fanmade batman vs darth vader movie is weirdly professional-looking.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 27 November 2014 01:00 (nine years ago) link

would laugh my tits off if this trailer was nothing but orange and teal

+ lens flare

you fuck one chud... (stevie), Thursday, 27 November 2014 15:14 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8dgBgnapnw

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 November 2014 15:45 (nine years ago) link

trailer is up

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/lucasfilm/starwarstheforceawakens/

Number None, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link

i know this is going to be terrible but i feel these faint glimmerings of excitement somewhere deep in my cold dead heart

adam, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:24 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOVFvcNfvE

Simon H., Friday, 28 November 2014 15:24 (nine years ago) link

could have done without the wacky (and completely impractical) new lightsaber style

Number None, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link

made me happy.

jamiesummerz, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link

plus no shots of the old dudes is kinda lame

Number None, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link

Good guy stormtrooper(s)?

jmm, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link

droid on football and standard jj abrams wobblycam give cause for concern. would say the rest looked promising but i know from long bitter experience you should never ever ever ever ever get your hopes up based solely on a trailer.

Kelly Gang Carey and the Mantels (ledge), Friday, 28 November 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link

It's like poetry, they rhyme.

jmm, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link

Not gonna lie, that money shot of Falcon v. TIE fighters with the main theme playing made my heart skip a beat. From the brief flash the new Stormtrooper armor looks pretty badass too.

Abrams clearly a very different director, based on those shots, than anyone else in the series so far.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Friday, 28 November 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link

If there's any reason to be optimistic, it's the presence of Boyega.

Simon H., Friday, 28 November 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link

wow. fuck. shit!

piscesx, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link

Was almost on board, until that lightsaber came on. yuk.

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Friday, 28 November 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link

Forest/lightsaber thing made me go "Game of Thrones?"

And the narration can't match Ian McDiarmid for creepily voiced scenery chewing.

Guess we'll see!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link

Was almost on board, until that lightsaber came on. yuk.

That's the only false note, really. Overall my stupid brain is quite excited.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 28 November 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link

looks more promising than any of EPs 1-3 so far so good

pursuit of happiness (art), Friday, 28 November 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link

That lightsaber looks like it could do more harm to the person holding it.

Liked most of the other stuff though, promising.

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Friday, 28 November 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link

countdown to the first 'Top 10 Things Wrong With The New Trailer' piece in 3.. 2.. 1..

piscesx, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link

SOUNDED incredible too (in 720 on YouTube)

piscesx, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link

and yeah light saber thing was dumb/unnecessary.

pursuit of happiness (art), Friday, 28 November 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link

You all are making it seem like spring snakes flew out of the light saber with a "boi-oi-oi-oing!" sound effect.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 28 November 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link

so psyched.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 28 November 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link

That's literally what happened xp

, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link

this move should be JUST soccer droids
maybe hanging out with old people in an apartment like batteries not included

never say goodbye before leaving chat room (Crabbits), Friday, 28 November 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link

Me being me I'm already thinking "Well it's a hilt to catch another lightsaber so I can see why and" *wibbles*

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link

Maybe it's to reduce the number of hands being chopped off.

jmm, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link

I guess we shouldn't have expected any less from Darth Spring Snakes tho

, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link

Supposedly the narrator is Cumberbatch.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link

Test audiences must really have loved him as Smaug

, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link

That was Oscar Isaac flying the X-wing, right?

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link

**POSSIBLE SPOILER**

Thinking that tall lurching dude with lightsaber is Adam Driver's character who's supposed to be some rich kid colector of Sith artifacts. Could be an ancient lightsaber design?

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link

xpost Fans are saying it's Luke's buddy Wedge from the first flicks.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link

Doubt it Ned. There was a fake trailer with his voiceover from Star Trek 2

Number None, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link

this move should be JUST soccer droids
maybe hanging out with old people in an apartment like batteries not included

switch the people for gungans and i'm in, where do i sign

Kelly Gang Carey and the Mantels (ledge), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link

Doubt it Ned. There was a fake trailer with his voiceover from Star Trek 2

That I fully believe!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link

some rich kid collector of Sith artifacts

Rich Kids of Coruscant Instagram

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link

aaaah the falcon was all I needed to grin like a loon, that was doooope

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link

Looked pretty cool. Why would someone make a lightsaber with little laser blades by the handle? Lose a lot of fingers that way.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link

It's be good if Driver's character makes a lightsaber like that cos he thinks it's cool and then he slices his hand off the first time he tries to use it

Number None, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link

Soccer droid is totally breaking the fourth wall.

jmm, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link

wedge is not in ep 7, he turned down the role

that has to be isaac surely

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link

Be great if in this Star Wars world they had to ban lightsabers because too many kids were losing fingers. The Lawn Darts of a long, long time ago, in a galaxy far away.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link

Soccer droid instantly made me think of

http://filmjunk.com/images/weblog/2009/12/blackholeremake.jpg

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link

Yeah it is Isaac it seems.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link

Goosebumps moment for me was seeing the X-Wings fly in low over the water

Still my favorite starfighter design

, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link

Yeah the water spray was a decent touch.

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link

otm x-wings super dope

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link

It'll be so weird if this turns out to be good. Star Wars. Good. In my lifetime.

jmm, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link

even the sand dunes made me happy

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link

wedge is not in ep 7, he turned down the role

He got clear. He couldn't do any more good back there.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link

lol

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link

15 years after watching them for the first time the phrase "Lose Tiree, lost Dutch, they came from behind" still pops into my head from time to time

, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link

Hope they keep the sort of 70s modular, low-tech grunge approach to any new technology introduced

Hated the sleek all in one monopod approach of the prequels

An X-Wing is not an iPod

, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link

even the sand dunes made me happy

― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl)

I dunno, I sort of feel they should get over Tatooine.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link

Yeah for a place farthest from the center of the universe they sure keep going back...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link

Note the best SW film is the only one not to feature it.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link

Tax rebates for Morocco make it irresistible

, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:44 (nine years ago) link

apparently it's not Tatooine but just a small desert region on some other planet (lol)

nashwan, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:45 (nine years ago) link

A PLANET WITH MORE THAN ONE TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT? That's it, I'm out.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link

soccerball droids reminded me of the zeroids from terrahawks

you fuck one chud... (stevie), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link

Who ever heard of a planet having diverse small regions?

jmm, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link

Hope they keep the sort of 70s modular, low-tech grunge approach to any new technology introduced

Ditto for the sound effects. I mean,

Sound designer Ben Burtt created the distinctive TIE fighter sound effect by combining an elephant call with a car driving on wet pavement.[1][2]

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link

it is required to sell the Star Wars Catan boardgames

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link

xpost -- New version to feature an elephant driving a car over Pavement.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link

Whenever I hear a Land Rover (the proper versions) drive by me at speed, it sounds very like a typical SW vehicle.

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link

It'll be so weird if this turns out to be good. Star WarsJJ Abrams. Good. In my lifetime.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link

Me being me I'm already thinking "Well it's a hilt to catch another lightsaber so I can see why and" *wibbles*

― Ned Raggett, Friday, November 28, 2014 7:59 AM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is otm and hopefully there will be wire hilts with light bends. maybe they can also cut really crusty bread with little light knives at the breakfast table.

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link

ball and chain lightsaber or gtfo

nashwan, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link

A lightsaber that can also be worn as a hat

, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

I want it to be a custom made lightsaber that shoots out light from the ends because, duh, no one's around to teach you how to make them and he had to make one from scratch. Original SW movies were full of stuff that was broken and/or janky -- totally agree w sentiment above about hoping these movies aren't too slick.

Dominique, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link

This will feature the junkiest tech that the best CGI can buy.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 November 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link

Was on board with all of it apart from the flying fudgesicle.

MaresNest, Friday, 28 November 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link

i hope so

i want 70s-80s beat-up space, not shiny 90s bullshit space

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 November 2014 17:19 (nine years ago) link

xpost -- friend of a friend said it looked more like the world's biggest USB drive.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 November 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link

looks shit.

Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 28 November 2014 18:03 (nine years ago) link

io9 breakdown, spoiler talk, etc etc

http://io9.com/a-shot-for-shot-dissection-of-all-the-clues-in-the-star-1664299291

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 November 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link

A lightsaber in a Star Wars movie that looks like something from a video game whose weapons partly parodied the lightsabers in Star Wars movies...
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2011/08/paradise815.jpg

just like Nietzsche but with jokes (snoball), Friday, 28 November 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link

I thought Moses in the Desert was this year? <- jokes I wish I'd thought of first.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 28 November 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link

that weird human camera operator-simulated fake shake documentary camera thing on the CG shots always makes me think they actually generated a cg camera operator off screen along with some burly crew to shake the dude around while he's trying to get a smooth shot of the falcon. then that makes me think of the CG craft services table and what kind of CG food they eat.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 28 November 2014 19:07 (nine years ago) link

Me being me I'm already thinking "Well it's a hilt to catch another lightsaber so I can see why and" *wibbles*

― Ned Raggett, Friday, November 28, 2014 7:59 AM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Feel like if you did that it'd just cut off the extendo part

http://i.imgur.com/fDgRya3.jpg

, Friday, 28 November 2014 19:07 (nine years ago) link

Also not sure if I'm feeling this weird plasma choppy lightsaber instead of the clean lines of the original

, Friday, 28 November 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link

Re: extendo part -- but that makes sense. And I actually like the raggedy version of the blade, gives it a sense of being ad hoc/used universe.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 November 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link

Next thing I know ned you'll be defending jar jar

, Friday, 28 November 2014 19:14 (nine years ago) link

dudes maybe it's a T-Square, not a light saber, and black hoodie isn't sith but a contractor working on leia's summer cabin.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 28 November 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link

maybe he's a poor handyman who can't afford onea them there fancy expensive sabers & he made his own

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 November 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link

ThinkGeek are going to end up selling a triple flame butane torch that looks like that lightsaber, aren't they?

just like Nietzsche but with jokes (snoball), Friday, 28 November 2014 19:24 (nine years ago) link

or maybe he's a crazy woodsy klansman who just made a portable flaming cross to wave around

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 November 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link

sorry

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 November 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link

Also kind of getting tired of the desert but will take that over art-deco smoothness any day. I was also sort of impartial about this until the Millennium Falcon shot then I felt 9 years old again. It's not like there's any question that I will go and see this so the trailer almost doesn't matter.

In the first shot John Boyega looks so totally and completely like a student I had last semester that it sort of shocked me.

joygoat, Friday, 28 November 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link

New X-Wing design - hell the entire trailer - reminds me of the original Ralph McQuarrie paintings. I like how they're reenacting the Dam Busters sequence that started all this.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 28 November 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link

I don't mind the desert planets when they're more like Barstow than something out of Cecil B DeMille. Mos Eisley felt false when it was retconned into a circus.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 28 November 2014 21:10 (nine years ago) link

yeah, word is a lot of the new designs are drawn from McQuarrie's concept art

Number None, Friday, 28 November 2014 21:10 (nine years ago) link

Jason Chen @diskopo -- Giving JJ Abrams control of both Trek and Wars seems like giving a guy both nuclear launch keys.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 28 November 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link

I like that bulky X-wing pilot helmet. It looks appropriately utilitarian.

jmm, Friday, 28 November 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link

Some really nice, properly cinematic shots in that teaser. Already looking better than the preekses.

Punny Names (latebloomer), Friday, 28 November 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link

tbf blair witch looked better than the preekses

resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 28 November 2014 21:43 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, Xwings were only changed from blue to red since the original color didn't work too well with the blue screen.

Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Friday, 28 November 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link

Suckers.

Οὖτις, Friday, 28 November 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link

*Shakey lifts the scales from my eyes* Wow Star was sucks

, Friday, 28 November 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link

I like those notes at the end from the Imperial March sounding like a delicate Gustavo Santaolalla theme.

(by "like" I mean oh Christ)

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 November 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link

is there a Vader breath right at the start or am i hearing things? i mean i know he's dead like.

piscesx, Saturday, 29 November 2014 01:35 (nine years ago) link

Opening shot on sand dunes was very "don't worry you fanboy fucks, I'm gonna give you what you want"

Can't deny my excitement though. A whole fucking year to wait!

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Saturday, 29 November 2014 04:13 (nine years ago) link

tantric nerdgasm

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 November 2014 04:14 (nine years ago) link

X-Wings gliding along the water

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Saturday, 29 November 2014 04:18 (nine years ago) link

fwiw first time I watched it with the sound off and liked it more that way, but still looks promising

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Saturday, 29 November 2014 04:27 (nine years ago) link

So does Lucas have literally nothing to do with this? I bet JJ is going to regret giving him his cell number.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 November 2014 04:27 (nine years ago) link

"Listen, JJ, I have some great ideas for when you reissue this in 20 years ..."

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 November 2014 04:28 (nine years ago) link

Really like the shot of storm troopers looking like they're steeling themselves for a beach invasion

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Saturday, 29 November 2014 04:31 (nine years ago) link

Opening shot on sand dunes was very "don't worry you fanboy fucks, I'm gonna give you what you want"

Can't deny my excitement though. A whole fucking year to wait!

― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Saturday, November 29, 2014 4:13 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think fanboys are as sick of Tattooine as everyone else

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 29 November 2014 04:34 (nine years ago) link

I more meant the style of the shot than anything

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Saturday, 29 November 2014 04:40 (nine years ago) link

I just hope with the real trailer we get something besides the obligatory 2010s trailer narration by creepy gravelly villain guy. I sorta was hoping Iron Man 3, which used the ubiquity of the convention as a springboard to pull a legitimately good twist on the audience, would mark the end of that whole thing. Ironically, the last time I can remember it actually being good was for Revenge of the Sith, where McDiarmid's delivery almost convinces you it's going to be a compelling, well-acted Star Wars movie.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 29 November 2014 05:08 (nine years ago) link

side-issue but this made me laugh from the Jar Jar wiki

Jar Jar appears in only a few scenes in Revenge of the Sith, and has no dialogue (besides a brief "'scuse me" at one point). He was originally given some dialogue in the beginning, but this was cut.

piscesx, Saturday, 29 November 2014 12:09 (nine years ago) link

Trailer has piqued interest in spite of bitter cynicism based on previous resurrection.

hyggeligt, Saturday, 29 November 2014 12:48 (nine years ago) link

How is the trailer anything other than trash? Nothing of interest. Just looked like a reboot.

Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 29 November 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link

are people allowed to find joy in things you don't like in your world, RT?

valleys of your mind (mh), Saturday, 29 November 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link

"I don't like this thing so it's objectively bad so I'm going to keep going to threads and tell people they have shit taste"

valleys of your mind (mh), Saturday, 29 November 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link

why do you people keep engaging with rt

adam, Saturday, 29 November 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link

there has never been a more obvious sock on this board. sorry for derail but cmon yall

adam, Saturday, 29 November 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link

you're forgetting about dave cool and missing no

just my 2cents

Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 November 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link

would have been great if jar jar's face had popped onto the screen in that first shot, Abrams should have done that just to troll everyone

akm, Saturday, 29 November 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link

i would lay a low money/high stakes bet that jar jar does a howard the duck style cameo in the post credits stinger scene for this movie

Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 November 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link

of the "lol jar jar motherfuckers" variety

Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 November 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link

would have been great if jar jar's face had popped onto screen in that first shot, but then the camera panned out to reveal that his head is no longer attached to a body and is on a spike outside the smoldering ashes of the imperial senate and then a disclaimer scrolled over that said that no george lucases were consulted in the development of this film.

pursuit of happiness (art), Saturday, 29 November 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link

George R. R. Martin, though, look out.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 November 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link

I hope Jar Jar is in this film

valleys of your mind (mh), Saturday, 29 November 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

sadly according to wookiepedia a Gungan's life expectancy is 65 years so Jar Jar's probably been dead for a while

Number None, Saturday, 29 November 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link

misa junior binks

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 29 November 2014 18:02 (nine years ago) link

brb starting online petition to retcon naboo as a test planet for one of the death star's super weapons. i don't think we can really afford to leave any loose ends on the gungan issue people

pursuit of happiness (art), Saturday, 29 November 2014 18:05 (nine years ago) link

Of course we can't discount the possibility that Jar Jar's position as a galactic senator gave him access to life extending technology

Number None, Saturday, 29 November 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link

Over on another thread I wondered out loud how many of those had been bought by adults for sexual purposes, and a straw poll brought back the answer "quite a few".

just like Nietzsche but with jokes (snoball), Saturday, 29 November 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link

misa junior binks

― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton),

That brings up the possibility of Jar Jar having sex with a lady Gungan and the further question of what kind of sex noises he'd make.

just like Nietzsche but with jokes (snoball), Saturday, 29 November 2014 18:28 (nine years ago) link

Oh I think we know all too well already:

the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 November 2014 18:33 (nine years ago) link

SB EVERYONE ITT

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 November 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link

With current technology, they need to make a version of that dispenser that plays a sample of C-3PO saying "oh my!" whenever someone, er, pulls off a piece.

just like Nietzsche but with jokes (snoball), Saturday, 29 November 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link

Sorry I forgot again on this board you can't not like something that's widely popular. No one asnwered my question about what was good about the trailer. Which says it all. It was trash, reboot uncreative trash. And I'm as big a SW fan as anyone here. I even liked the sequels, but this trailer offered nothing at all of interest.

Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 29 November 2014 18:57 (nine years ago) link

Oh look here's a HIGH DEF version of the X Wing!!!! And the Falcon, in better graphics!! And a desert scene!!! And a goofy looking robot!!! Dated Inception scoring!! BE EXCITED!! CONSUME YOUR HIGH DEF IMAX REBOOT!!

Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 29 November 2014 18:59 (nine years ago) link

i am super glad you are here raccoon tanuki, no joke

Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:10 (nine years ago) link

I'm hype for John Boyega

ambergris shmambergris (silby), Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link

No one asnwered my question about what was good about the trailer. Which says it all.

I think it mostly says no one here wants to engage with a troll so charmless most people refuse to believe you could be anything other than a regular's unamusing sock. But sure, go on pretending you're that One Brave Voice railing against the new Star Wars film.

you fuck one chud... (stevie), Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:19 (nine years ago) link

Is there any way we can replace Raccoon Tanuki's posts with animated gifs of Jar Jar Binks' comical antics?

from the straining pagan waistbands (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:21 (nine years ago) link

Shakey & Racoon Tanuki should form
a club, have they been formally introduced

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:21 (nine years ago) link

i watched the trailer i think; i mostly remember sand, millenium falcon, warcraft lightsabers, x-wings rocking the fuck out and a herbie soccerr-2
it was like a minute and a half i think
it was fine

Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:21 (nine years ago) link

i drank the kool aid & it tasted great
OHHHH YEAAAH

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link

It would have been awesome if Jar Jar was the narrator.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link

the darksa and the lightsa

Punny Names (latebloomer), Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:27 (nine years ago) link

Star Wars in itself is a blunt story, so maybe I'm now expecting too much. the representation of evil for evil's sake is unnuanced and lacking in subtlely or depth. The best films don't show simply "evil" characters, they show the roots of evil, greed, ill will, delusion. It's funny with the Yoda buddhist influence in the prequels (fear leads to anger ...) non of it was present in the originals. Just, here's a bad guy, and here's good guys. This is inherent in western filmaking and thinking, eastern films consistantly show people as neither good nor bad, but obviously complex yeah. Haha!

Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link

The dumb story was never a big problem to me though as it was cool enough in other ways to get away with such poor shallow writing. However, now it's not. JJ Abrams isn't a smart enough film maker.

Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:38 (nine years ago) link

But he has glasses.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link

he has glasses of a fool

Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link

More proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpjVgF5JDq8

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link

I mean, they don't give Ted talks to just anyone with a headset mic.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link

Here he is, thinking smart things about Star Wars: http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/JJ-Abrams-Star-Wars-Episode-7.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link

Well I'm convinced

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link

Hoping C3PO dies in this one

Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link

Can dumb people do this?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-i1pR1PbXda4/UQNdLI1L0dI/AAAAAAAAB4s/aUYxvsP1KLk/s1600/Abrams.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link

Raccoon tanuki what are your favorite eastern films

, Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link

he's unbearable. listening to that he sounds more like an engineer than an artist.

Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:46 (nine years ago) link

How does propulsion on the falcon allow for that sort of steering within a planet's gravity? All of the thrust is in the rear, isn't it?

Not sure how it would even turn in zero-g actually.

polyphonic, Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link

Raccoon tanuki what are your favorite eastern films

― 龜,

kill bill, letters from iwo jima, ninja turtles (u should like that ;)), crouching tiger hidden dragon, rush hour etc

Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link

Ty

, Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link

The best films don't show simply "evil" characters, they show the roots of evil, greed, ill will, delusion.

lucas tried to do this in the prequels and everybody hated them.

I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:55 (nine years ago) link

(b/c they were terrible IIRC)

I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:55 (nine years ago) link

anyway i think this is peak raccoon tanuki, time to stop

Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link

"Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. "

lmao

Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link

raccoon just admitted he liked the prequels so whatever man.

akm, Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link

"lucas tried to do this in the prequels and everybody hated them."

― I dunno. (amateurist),

I liked them. Visually, what more SW fan looking for?. the 1st one and the 3rd anyway. Acting from Hayden C in 3rd was sketchy at best but still, good flick.

Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 29 November 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link

but since when did bad acting ever stop SW being loved?

Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 29 November 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link

With current technology, they need to make a version of that dispenser that plays a sample of C-3PO saying "oh my!" whenever someone, er, pulls off a piece.

― just like Nietzsche but with jokes (snoball),

biggest LOL of my day

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 November 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link

I think I have identified RT

valleys of your mind (mh), Saturday, 29 November 2014 20:52 (nine years ago) link

lol

valleys of your mind (mh), Saturday, 29 November 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link

must say i am really glad to see the relative diversity of the cast render internet racists apoplectic

pursuit of happiness (art), Saturday, 29 November 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link

so what is boyega doing before the trailer

what is he doing

can he possibly be doing anything other than crouching below a camera for an unknown amount of time

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 29 November 2014 21:16 (nine years ago) link

Coming up an propulsor lift hidden in a ground

ambergris shmambergris (silby), Saturday, 29 November 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/ZbQnfG8.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 November 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/q1cOST1.png

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 November 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link

but since when did bad acting ever stop SW being loved?

― Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:03 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fisher and Ford were both fantastic come on.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 29 November 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link

the trailer is fine except for the narration being clunky as shit

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 29 November 2014 21:44 (nine years ago) link

haha, Carrie Fisher in the first movie is EXACTLY like Debbie Reynolds' 19-year-old daughter in space.

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 November 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link

which is excellent

valleys of your mind (mh), Saturday, 29 November 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link

better in Shampoo

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 November 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link

^^ somebody get this walking carpet out of my way!

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 November 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link

i've been traveling up until now, so just saw the trailer. haven't read the thread so i'm assuming there's some shit talk but who among us can deny that they're pumped??

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Sunday, 30 November 2014 02:28 (nine years ago) link

I am not "pumped"

Οὖτις, Sunday, 30 November 2014 02:38 (nine years ago) link

you're a SW7 denier. there is something fundamental and plain that you are suppressing!

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Sunday, 30 November 2014 03:03 (nine years ago) link

i stand with shakey

resulting post (rogermexico.), Sunday, 30 November 2014 03:06 (nine years ago) link

I showed the trailer to my six year old son. He liked it. I didn't think to ask him if he's pumped.

silverfish, Sunday, 30 November 2014 03:15 (nine years ago) link

He really likes the light saber. I think he might not have understood that those two short beams are supposed to be a hilt. He's imagining some sort of unwieldy triple light saber.

silverfish, Sunday, 30 November 2014 03:19 (nine years ago) link

I'ts been thirty years since good star wars. I only watched first prequel in cinema, hate all three of them. Why on earth would i be 'pumped'? Are you guys actually going to watch this?

Frederik B, Sunday, 30 November 2014 03:40 (nine years ago) link

I am a consumer whore and yes

valleys of your mind (mh), Sunday, 30 November 2014 03:48 (nine years ago) link

I'm cautiously pumped. I will need to see more before advancing to 'stoked'. They seem to be aiming to recapture some of the look and feel of the originals (recon droid sound effects, etc.), which if nothing else is nice, pleasant, nostalgic.

jmm, Sunday, 30 November 2014 03:51 (nine years ago) link

'pumped'

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Sunday, 30 November 2014 03:52 (nine years ago) link

the thing about hilts is usually they aren't made out of blades

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Sunday, 30 November 2014 03:59 (nine years ago) link

I have a young son who is the right age for this stuff so yes, I'm almost certainly going to see this. This looks much better than the countless superhero movies he also wants to see.

The JJ Abrams aesthetic actually seems like a good fit for the star wars universe.

silverfish, Sunday, 30 November 2014 04:00 (nine years ago) link

also yeah i think the trailer's great for trying to reassure nerds that they're going back to the "old" ways of the original trilogy

but then i remember

jj abrams

xp

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Sunday, 30 November 2014 04:01 (nine years ago) link

and yeah of course i'm seeing this it's sw

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Sunday, 30 November 2014 04:01 (nine years ago) link

Did you see the prequels? I think i saw iii in 2012. I'll get to vii at some point.

Frederik B, Sunday, 30 November 2014 04:06 (nine years ago) link

I... watched the wrong trailer (the fan-made fake one with Ford and von Sydow).

Now I have watched the authentic one.

I am still unpumped.

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 November 2014 04:08 (nine years ago) link

"Unpumped" from you is practically a ringing endorsement!

valleys of your mind (mh), Sunday, 30 November 2014 04:09 (nine years ago) link

Did you see the prequels? I think i saw iii in 2012. I'll get to vii at some point.

― Frederik B, Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:06 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes of course i saw the prequels

it's sw

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Sunday, 30 November 2014 04:13 (nine years ago) link

I'm also intrigued to see a new Star Wars movie that isn't bound down by a lot of prior storyline commitments. The prequels had all these dots to connect. They had to be about Vader. They had to tediously unpack a throwaway line from Episode 4 about the "Clone Wars". This time, who knows?

jmm, Sunday, 30 November 2014 04:23 (nine years ago) link

you can count on JJ for incessant unnecessary callbacks

Simon H., Sunday, 30 November 2014 04:35 (nine years ago) link

I appreciate all the extended book/game canon being flushed down the toilet

valleys of your mind (mh), Sunday, 30 November 2014 04:38 (nine years ago) link

At worst I'm out ten bucks and two hours of my time so why would I not go?

joygoat, Sunday, 30 November 2014 04:44 (nine years ago) link

ilxors will question your taste

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Sunday, 30 November 2014 04:44 (nine years ago) link

I'd have an opinion about the trailer except I am way too distracted by the fact that this "hilt" wouldn't do it's job since the opponent lightsaber "blade" would fit inside the corner below the hilt beam and destroy it. It wouldn't block anything. What is this bullshit gimmick? Fucking infomercial lightsabers.

Evan, Sunday, 30 November 2014 04:53 (nine years ago) link

1 vote for pumped

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 November 2014 05:04 (nine years ago) link

don't worry about the hilt

the hilt has invisible hilts attached to it to deflect blows to the (visible) hilt

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Sunday, 30 November 2014 05:05 (nine years ago) link

yea, there is another hilt above the visible hilt

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Sunday, 30 November 2014 05:06 (nine years ago) link

I spose there's something symmetrical about this opening in the month when the Grand Moff Rodham is crisscrossing Iowa and New Hampshire.

a disturbance in the Farce

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 November 2014 05:07 (nine years ago) link

I say the beam continues inside the metal hilt part. It needs to be enclosed next to the handle so that you don't scorch your hand.

jmm, Sunday, 30 November 2014 05:08 (nine years ago) link

I've been imagining a post-Star Wars sequel since I was a kid so this is exciting! Who is driving the Falcon?

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 30 November 2014 05:19 (nine years ago) link

Like I wonder if Chewie is gonna be in this with an eyepatch and some grey hair.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 30 November 2014 05:19 (nine years ago) link

jar jar binks, old and grizzled, knocking back rum and blue milks

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Sunday, 30 November 2014 05:28 (nine years ago) link

the ineluctable modality of the hilt

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 30 November 2014 05:29 (nine years ago) link

Who is driving the Falcon?

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081126192732/starwars/images/4/4a/Nien_Nunb_JKTCG.jpg

jmm, Sunday, 30 November 2014 05:36 (nine years ago) link

the thing about hilts is usually they aren't made out of blades

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:59 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this criticism does not make sense. the hilt needs to be able to stop a lightsaber and so must be made of lightsaber. it is not necessarily a blade. the whole concept of blade and non-blade lightsaber is just...maybe you don't have what it takes to be a tru believer.

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 30 November 2014 06:54 (nine years ago) link

I spose there's something symmetrical about this opening in the month when the Grand Moff Rodham is crisscrossing Iowa and New Hampshire.

a disturbance in the Farce

AMAZING Morbz parody account, fess up guys, who's behind it?

the incredible string gland (sic), Sunday, 30 November 2014 07:02 (nine years ago) link

this criticism does not make sense. the hilt needs to be able to stop a lightsaber and so must be made of lightsaber. it is not necessarily a blade. the whole concept of blade and non-blade lightsaber is just...maybe you don't have what it takes to be a tru believer.

― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, November 30, 2014 1:54 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ok but in real sword land if the hilt had to be made out of blades then they would've just said "let's not do this because it will backfire and hurt real quick" so thanks again george lucas

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Sunday, 30 November 2014 07:06 (nine years ago) link

yeah i'm putting this one on george

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Sunday, 30 November 2014 07:06 (nine years ago) link

well there's no guarantee that the lighthilt would do damage. maybe the photon density is lower in the hilt or something.

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 30 November 2014 07:09 (nine years ago) link

and maybe when the dude hits the lighthilt with a lightsaber it's all SSKKKGGGGHHH! SKKKGGHH SKKKGGGGGHHH! and he's like AWWWW YEAH! and that makes it worth the risk.

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 30 November 2014 07:11 (nine years ago) link

we're descending to a level i never meant to descend to

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Sunday, 30 November 2014 07:15 (nine years ago) link

to the planet core

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 30 November 2014 07:18 (nine years ago) link

is Adam Driver wielding the hilt? wh y is there no frontal shot of his lightsaber?

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 November 2014 07:36 (nine years ago) link

No lens flare. Some teal but not much orange. I'm OK with this teaser.

abanana, Sunday, 30 November 2014 10:25 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v93Jh6JNBng#t=67

MaresNest, Sunday, 30 November 2014 10:53 (nine years ago) link

xp: Oh, there was lens flare alright. I noticed it on the first view.

I feel like this teaser does not provide me with enough information to confidently pump yet.

put your money where the maracas are (how's life), Sunday, 30 November 2014 11:10 (nine years ago) link

yeah the lack of T and O is a very good thing. are we past peak T and O now? i think we must be, thing really seems to have tailed off.

piscesx, Sunday, 30 November 2014 11:20 (nine years ago) link

I watched Walter Mitty the other day and it was crazy levels of T&O in places.

MaresNest, Sunday, 30 November 2014 11:25 (nine years ago) link

I'm OK with lens flare when it's used to make special effects blend in. Lens flare when the Falcon passes by a sun is fine.

abanana, Sunday, 30 November 2014 13:25 (nine years ago) link

All I want to know is how Obama will mess this up, too.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 November 2014 14:03 (nine years ago) link

Can't wait for this HD Star Wars reboot by JJ 'I'm a movie director' Abrams.

Raccoon Tanuki, Sunday, 30 November 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link

no matter how craptastic it is, it's NOT A REBOOT

they have 3 fossils reprising their roles for God's sake

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 November 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link

Six fossils, counting whacky sidekicks.

jmm, Sunday, 30 November 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link

Can't wait for this HD Star Wars reboot by JJ 'I'm a movie director' Abrams.

― Raccoon Tanuki, Sunday, November 30, 2014 10:28 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You know who's an even shittier director than Abrams? George Lucas.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Sunday, 30 November 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link

you have no idea who's wearing those tin suits, let's be honest

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 November 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link

Sir Derek Jacobi, most likely.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 November 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link

new robot footage!

Punny Names (latebloomer), Sunday, 30 November 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link

check the YouTube comments on the Trailer for huffy nerd gems such as: "It really baffles me how you guys are overreacting. First off these are STORMTROOPERS not CLONE TROOPERS, their is a huge difference. Second off the light saber doesn't look that bad, so stop being a bunch of babies."

the tune was space, Sunday, 30 November 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link

*clutches darth maul travel mug*

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 November 2014 20:48 (nine years ago) link

hard to make a judgment about whether this movie will be good or bad off of 45 seconds of footage, but i will say the x-wings and corellian freighter look mighty cool

the late great, Sunday, 30 November 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link

Not gonna lie, that money shot of Falcon v. TIE fighters with the main theme playing made my heart skip a beat

me too

the late great, Sunday, 30 November 2014 20:57 (nine years ago) link

I like the title. "STAR WARS". It really pops.

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 30 November 2014 21:00 (nine years ago) link

sounds like something lucas would name it tbh

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Sunday, 30 November 2014 21:16 (nine years ago) link

apparently the narrator is Andy Serkis

Number None, Sunday, 30 November 2014 22:06 (nine years ago) link

Star Bores more like it right?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 November 2014 22:34 (nine years ago) link

I hope to god Cumberbatch isn't a main villain in this shit because that's the worst sort of fan service, and not even for Star Wars fans

valleys of your mind (mh), Sunday, 30 November 2014 22:49 (nine years ago) link

jj abrams is not that great and this will undoubtedly be trash but that shot of x-wings kicking up spray across water shows more wit and sense than lucas has shown for my whole adult life

goole, Sunday, 30 November 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link

The only Abrams I have seen was Super 8 and although I don't remember much, apparently my kid liked it enough that we bought it for him and I periodically see it pop up while I'm flipping through our dvd book. Should I go back and watch it again with a cynical and jaded critical eye and realize how bad it was after all?

put your money where the maracas are (how's life), Sunday, 30 November 2014 23:02 (nine years ago) link

i'm suspending judgment, i thought the star treks were really corny but i could see that corniness working better in the star wars context

the late great, Sunday, 30 November 2014 23:05 (nine years ago) link

I feel like Abrams at least understands what people liked about the originals and will produce at least part of a movie that feels true to that

valleys of your mind (mh), Sunday, 30 November 2014 23:09 (nine years ago) link

And if it sucks, maybe Rian Johnson will get weird with the next one.

jmm, Sunday, 30 November 2014 23:11 (nine years ago) link

As far as big $$$ H'wood Product I'm way more excited about these new SW films than I could ever be about the bland and noisy superhero mush that continues to be churned out.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 30 November 2014 23:23 (nine years ago) link

And I'll pop in Solaris (Tarkovsky model) or Stalker if I ever want my highbrow SF fix. I dig that, too. No shame in my SW love over here.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 30 November 2014 23:26 (nine years ago) link

jj abrams is not that great and this will undoubtedly be trash but that shot of x-wings kicking up spray across water shows more wit and sense than lucas has shown for my whole adult life

Qft

max, Sunday, 30 November 2014 23:28 (nine years ago) link

tbf you could say the same for THE DARK KNIGHT RISES and um

resulting post (rogermexico.), Sunday, 30 November 2014 23:31 (nine years ago) link

The X-wings in _The Dark Knight Rises_?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 December 2014 00:05 (nine years ago) link

there's really no reason to believe Cumberbatch is in this at all

Number None, Monday, 1 December 2014 00:42 (nine years ago) link

? You didn't see this leaked pre-production still?

http://i.imgur.com/vKqaEtL.png

, Monday, 1 December 2014 00:44 (nine years ago) link

so handsome sigh

Clay, Monday, 1 December 2014 00:44 (nine years ago) link

other than fans of all nerdom hoping it, and Abrams love of casting people he's previously casted

what is the over/under on Greg Grunberg appearing in the background as an extra

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 00:45 (nine years ago) link

still got my fingers crossed for a big red ball

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 December 2014 01:25 (nine years ago) link

I feel like Abrams at least understands what people liked about the originals and will produce at least part of a movie that feels true to that

agreed

gbx, Monday, 1 December 2014 01:48 (nine years ago) link

i'm suspending judgment, i thought the star treks were really corny but i could see that corniness working better in the star wars context

also agree w this

gbx, Monday, 1 December 2014 01:49 (nine years ago) link

first star trek was cool. second was laaaaaaame. so I'm glad that jj will be cut off after 7.

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 1 December 2014 01:55 (nine years ago) link

isn't RT supposed to chime in, why all this enthusiasm

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 02:02 (nine years ago) link

I can imagine this new one being just as competent and just as stupid as his "Star Trek" films. It's some miracle that the cast and effects and general construction of the original "Star Wars" movie allowed it to surmount its innately corny origins (which, of course, in embarrassing pre-edited/spiffed up FX form made people think it was destined to flop). These new ones, I know they will look great and be technically perfect, but today's blockbuster dudes have real problems with the scripts. It's like they've forgotten how to tell stories, or rather, their stories have become so overly ambitious despite their generally shallow substance that they totally fall apart once the destructive inevitability of the contemporary H'wood by corporate committee process kicks in. I can only imagine how much of a mess the Marvel movies would be if they did not have decades of comics canon to draw on. At least Lucas, surprisingly savvy, was straightforward that his prequels (which he produced independently, no less) were kids flicks meant to jumpstart a new generation of fans (which I think worked). But these "Star Wars" films on the other hand are a tougher task liable to satisfy no one even if the end product is totally satisfying and lucrative. They have to tie to old mythology, add new mythology, entertain kids and fulfill the hopes of the faithful all at once. That doesn't give them much room to move other than right toward the middle.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 December 2014 02:04 (nine years ago) link

feeling deep shame over how nervous that triple/hilt light saber is making me feel

✓ out this insane nakh yall (gr8080), Monday, 1 December 2014 02:07 (nine years ago) link

like, for as wonderful and promising the rest of the trailer looks, that is some fucked up shit.

✓ out this insane nakh yall (gr8080), Monday, 1 December 2014 02:08 (nine years ago) link

sidebar: if anyone is interested, greg proops talks about his experience as the podrace announcer in Phantom Menace on matt gourley's new podcast, it's kind of a neat conversation

http://feeds.feedburner.com/IWasThereToo

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 December 2014 02:19 (nine years ago) link

the hilt lighsaber looked so crappy I feel like there almost has to be a reason it looked crappy, like it's either some kind of bootleg home modification or it's just that the effect hasn't been finalized in post-production.

Incidentally, I keep chuckling at the mental image of a dark side jedi who talks like adam driver

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 December 2014 02:47 (nine years ago) link

the hilt lightsaber looked so good. i hope they run the whole goddamn movie through a 'hilt lightsaber' filter.

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 1 December 2014 02:54 (nine years ago) link

if Adam Driver kills Mark Hamill this will be the best Star Wars ever

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 December 2014 04:52 (nine years ago) link

(Hurting you do know that Driver has done Shaw on the NY stage, right? he may not sound like JE Jones, but no one does.)

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 December 2014 04:54 (nine years ago) link

Saddest part about Adam Driver in Star Wars is i'm 99% sure he won't be naked :(

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 December 2014 05:30 (nine years ago) link

what are you talking about star wars is famous for its erotic tableaux

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071016095649/starwars/nl/images/1/13/Luke_Bacta.jpg

difficult listening hour, Monday, 1 December 2014 05:34 (nine years ago) link

hee hee

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 December 2014 05:45 (nine years ago) link

hamilltube.com

Pooja Bhatt's erotic thriller Jism 2 (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 1 December 2014 06:10 (nine years ago) link

why god

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 1 December 2014 07:50 (nine years ago) link

The only hope is that JJ 'hi I'm director JJ abrams' Abrams might just be stupid enough to pull this off

Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 1 December 2014 09:02 (nine years ago) link

the hilt lighsaber looked so crappy I feel like there almost has to be a reason it looked crappy, like it's either some kind of bootleg home modification or it's just that the effect hasn't been finalized in post-production.

I think def the first, the hilts look like oil well fires, the main blade is arcing.

I'm generally enthusiastic about this - worth remembering that this isn't 1:30 of random footage, it's specifically chosen to say "We understand Star Wars and also have the freedom to do new things with it and also we understand Star Wars, Jesus Christ sit down you guys".

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 1 December 2014 09:37 (nine years ago) link

sidebar: if anyone is interested, greg proops talks about his experience as the podrace announcer in Phantom Menace on matt gourley's new podcast, it's kind of a neat conversation

http://feeds.feedburner.com/IWasThereToo

― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, November 30, 2014 9:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thank you for the heads up. I've never heard Greg talk about it in his own podcast.

put your money where the maracas are (how's life), Monday, 1 December 2014 10:39 (nine years ago) link

There's some funny Phantom Menace related stuff in this as well:

http://www.comedy.co.uk/podcasts/richard_herring_lst_podcast/episode_12_peter_serafinowicz/

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 1 December 2014 10:45 (nine years ago) link

yeah that Herring podcast with Peter Serafinowicz is hillarious and incredible. Lucas comes across as a tight bastard too; recording in a notoriously cheap London studio, not paying PS to go to the premiere etc. really is amazing eye-witness stuff.

piscesx, Monday, 1 December 2014 12:01 (nine years ago) link

I had no idea the Attack the Block guy was in this movie until I saw the trailer, but I was happy to see him, because he was so good in AtB. Looking at the names of the other actors, I have no idea who they are (except for the old folks from the original movies, plus Serkis, of course), have they done anything noteworthy before SW7?

Tuomas, Monday, 1 December 2014 13:26 (nine years ago) link

What is Serkis doing in this movie, anyway (besides narrating the trailer)? Another motion capture role?

Tuomas, Monday, 1 December 2014 13:30 (nine years ago) link

No one knows.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 1 December 2014 13:31 (nine years ago) link

He's going to be Yaddle.

I haven't seen the mutilated original trilogy in a while, so I was wondering - didn't they redub the stormtroopers' voices with Temuera Morrison (Boba Fett/clone trooper)? Or was it just Fett?

Pooja Bhatt's erotic thriller Jism 2 (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 1 December 2014 13:35 (nine years ago) link

The cast are all mostly up and comers. Oscar Isaac was in the Coens' last movie and will be playing Apocalypse in the next X-Men, Daisy Ridley is more or less an unknown, Adam Driver and Gwendolyn Christie are both from HBO, Lupita Nyong'o won the Best Supporting Actress Oscar for 12 Years A Slave, Domhnall Gleeson is Brendan Gleeson's son, and Max Von Sydow played the role of Esbern in the Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.

Number None, Monday, 1 December 2014 13:49 (nine years ago) link

Dudes, if Episode 1 came out in 2014 everyone would be saying it's amazing LIKE NERDGASM OMG I@M SUCH A HUGE STAR WARS NERD BY THE WAY AND THIS LOOKS WOW internet jive.

-Instead- it got shitted on by actual angry nerds who hated it for actual disillusioned angry nerd reasons that were as bullshit as the new young star fans reasons for loving the new JJ im JJ abrams Abrams nontrailer. When did it become cool to like commercial reboots?

Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 1 December 2014 14:33 (nine years ago) link

^^^ Whose sock is he again?

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Monday, 1 December 2014 14:37 (nine years ago) link

I don't know but his logic is AIRTIGHT and CONVINCING

you fuck one chud... (stevie), Monday, 1 December 2014 14:37 (nine years ago) link

Take new Jurassic Park reboot. No one was interested in the Jurassic Park sequels. JP 3 came out as recently as 2001 I think. No adult cared, it was obviously a dumb money grab. Now, it's like been given a whole new lease of life, all of a sudden Jurassic Park is cool again on a wave of nostalgic 90s shit tsunami. The Jurassic Park trailer was possibly the dumbest looking piece of crap worse than anything we saw in the 2 sequels, yet people are now "excited" for it, it's cool. This is the power of modern internet marketing.

It's the same reason adults go to those awful Marvel films and The Dark Knight Rises with serious intent of going to like a serious movie.

Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 1 December 2014 14:38 (nine years ago) link

new young star fans

how old are you tanooch?

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 December 2014 14:38 (nine years ago) link

Regardless of whose sock he is, he just shits up every thread he enters, it's irritating. Miss the suggest ban button.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 December 2014 14:40 (nine years ago) link

He doesn't know what reboot means.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 1 December 2014 14:41 (nine years ago) link

"Movie trailers" = "modern internet marketing." If only the filmmakers of the 1970s had had access to this innovation.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Monday, 1 December 2014 14:41 (nine years ago) link

Dudes, if Episode 1 came out in 2014 everyone would be saying it's amazing

How so? It's still garbage today.

only good thing from ep1 was the pod race.

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Monday, 1 December 2014 14:47 (nine years ago) link

most people liked the Episode 1 trailer tbf

Number None, Monday, 1 December 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link

Jurassic Park 1 is still really solid, and a cultural touchstone (Jaws for a new generation, birth of convincing CGI, Weird Al song, one of 20 or so movies to have made a billion dollars, etc); 3D reissue made $65 mil in the theaters, and it wasn't all gen xers (I took kids, they loved it). Jurassic Park 2 is pretty much a turd. Jurassic Park 3 is better than it could have been, but that doesn't mean it was anything to get excited about, or that anyone cared. I think folks have remained consistent on this.

Jurassic Park 4 looks like Aliens 4.

Other constants: people make fun of JJ Abrams, prequels stink. Those notions are not incompatible with anyone getting excited about the idea of a new Star Wars movie, but the idea that there are no asterisks or caveats attached is nuts. Some people really like Star Wars and are willing to hope these are good. You could even call it ... a new hope.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 December 2014 14:51 (nine years ago) link

I am confident.

It could be my weakness though, etc etc

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Monday, 1 December 2014 14:54 (nine years ago) link

I don't think Abrams needs to be an amazing director to do this right, he just needs to love the originals (which he appears to), be competent, and find a way of making a 2015 movie in 2015 while retaining some of what made the originals fun. I really wouldn't want too much of an auteur doing them. I'm not interested in someone's artistic "take" on Star Wars.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 December 2014 14:55 (nine years ago) link

tbf Empire Strikes Back was really Brackett/Kasdan's take on Star Wars and George Lucas has spent the rest of the time acting like any ideas they came up with were in his original plan

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 14:58 (nine years ago) link

Guardians of the Galaxy was pretty much taken from the Star Wars template of rollicking adventure fun. JJ hasn't done anything remotely that enjoyable. He wants to be Spielberg too badly. Lucas, for all his many faults, is the one who loves serial pulp. Abrams has been consistent enough across all his films that I really can't imagine his Star Wars to be much more than competent. Which, yeah, is still a step up.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 December 2014 15:00 (nine years ago) link

A.O. Scott of the New York Times calls it "Workmanlike...throroughly competent!"

Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 December 2014 15:02 (nine years ago) link

I know you can only tell so much from a teaser trailer, but look how much shittier the ep 1 teaser trailer was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo5PYJvAAMI

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 December 2014 15:08 (nine years ago) link

I thought GotG was dull for the most part. Don't get the SW comparisons. That lead guy reminded me of a couple drunk-at the office Xmas party and-trying to be slick-middle management dudes I have known.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 1 December 2014 15:10 (nine years ago) link

The redeeming part of the Star Wars prequels, the unveiling of the fact that George Lucas could do a pretty good bare-bones homage to pulp science fiction (with help in the script editing) back when he made the original Star Wars, but given unlimited resources and not held to any story constraints he just throws in every idea that comes into his head.

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 15:11 (nine years ago) link

after years of interviews and books where he's tried to assume this role of cultural mythmaker and Joseph Campbell-anointed storyteller, with this epic series all planned out, and then he makes Episodes 1 - 3

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 15:12 (nine years ago) link

Every shot in the Ep 7 trailer was more exciting than any scene in Ep 1, so by virtue of having those shots alone it's hard to imagine it's worse than Ep 1.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 December 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link

Look at the overcrowded and badly thought through production design in the PM trailer compared to the relatively simple and striking images in the new one.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 1 December 2014 15:19 (nine years ago) link

absence of Jake Lloyd/Hayden Christensen also a boost

Number None, Monday, 1 December 2014 15:20 (nine years ago) link

The redeeming part of the Star Wars prequels, the unveiling of the fact that George Lucas could do a pretty good bare-bones homage to pulp science fiction (with help in the script editing) back when he made the original Star Wars, but given unlimited resources and not held to any story constraints he just throws in every idea that comes into his head.

― valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 15:11 (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, but I had that after Episode I (in fairness Episode II shows real growth in his ability to write terrible romantic dialogue)

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 1 December 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link

If you're looking for a movie to fly the flag for completely generic flavourless sequels that could be made by anyone, Alien Resurrection is an odd choice.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 1 December 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link

A.O. Scott of the New York Times calls it "Workmanlike...throroughly competent!"

― Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch)

from the promo poster?

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 December 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link

God I always forget how badly-delivered that shitty dialogue is. There are a handful of images and a couple of lines in the Phantom Menace teaser that start to suggest a much more compelling movie - factions struggle over the fate of a young boy, who feels the Force deeply (we imagine) but senses at some level it means the end of life with his mother... sinister hands on his shoulders, does this mean he is taken by the bad guys?...looks like they'll be in some different environments, cool... and then oh gooddddddd the dialogue and everything looking so goofy and CGI creatures doing pratfalls, oh no

Like I know RT is a sock/troll, and nerds were totally hyped for TPM (in the, uh, pre-internet era of 1999?), but really, while the new trailer doesn't exactly promise miracles it at least says this will be a watchable movie where you might care about what happens, and they put the camera where they put it on purpose and not out of sheer laziness. Absence of dialogue maybe worrisome, maybe not.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 1 December 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link

I actually watched this (which is heavily used in the Redletter Media review) again recently. It really is an amazing document. Just Lucas fucking up every single creative decision as his crew look on in horror

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8sBsnYNucM

Check out the Annakin auditions at 4:30. The second kid blows Lloyd out of the water but Jake gets the job because he's more "natural" i.e. bad

Number None, Monday, 1 December 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link

First line of dialogue in Episode 7: "'Sup, brahs?"

Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 December 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link

there was a lot of hype for TPM on the internet! it existed before 1999, I swear.

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 15:37 (nine years ago) link

If you're looking for a movie to fly the flag for completely generic flavourless sequels that could be made by anyone, Alien Resurrection is an odd choice.

I was comparing JP 4 to Aliens 4, not Star Wars 7. JP4, just based on that trailer, seems like a mess of bad ideas wed to an otherwise solid franchise.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 December 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link

Trailers in the nineties were really bad, but TPM is perhaps the worst. Also, after thinking about it, it's probably not episode vii I hate so much. It's the idea of episode viii-xii and a handful of sidequels coming in the next decade.

Frederik B, Monday, 1 December 2014 15:39 (nine years ago) link

are you kidding me, the trailer for The Phantom Menace is almost a reasonable film in itself. there's no way george lucas edited it, though

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link

Have they actually announced they're doing up to XII?

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 1 December 2014 15:42 (nine years ago) link

Skipping around in that making-of, man, there's some sad stuff. So apparent that he has just endless (bad) ideas for the way he wants things to look, and no interest at all in actors, performances, story. 44:00: "It's like Vaseline in a water balloon."

Doctor Casino, Monday, 1 December 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link

Let us never forget, Darth Icky.

Also, the fact that George Lucas showed the daily clips and in-progress animation to his kids and asked for their input

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, there wasn't a lot of internet the web in 1999, but what there was was pretty excited. I think the teaser was released on the Apple Trailers site as well.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 1 December 2014 15:46 (nine years ago) link

I'm still holding out hope that Darth Insanius will make an appearance in the new ones

Number None, Monday, 1 December 2014 15:46 (nine years ago) link

There was so much internet, so much hype, and so much nerd enthusiasm. All those news stories about fans dressed up, waiting in line. Racoon Tanuki is rewriting history; fans didn't turn on TPM until later.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 1 December 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, not until they saw it.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 December 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link

I turned on TPM opening night when Proops' character first showed up. Up until then, I had just been confused and a little bored. Prior to actually entering the theater, I was completely fucking stoked.

put your money where the maracas are (how's life), Monday, 1 December 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link

I remember thinking the lightsaber battle was cool, maybe not as cool as the trailer led me to hope, but... TRADE FEDERATION?!? WHINY KID? POD RACES?!

also the entire casting of a younger kid opposite Natalie Portman, who could look young-ish but was definitely in her mid teens. that whiny kid is going to mature and somehow woo her in the next two films? what is this shit

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link

yo rt/ott why tf are you so concerned with what a message board full of fossilized out of work music critics finds cool

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link

I turned on TPM opening night when Proops' character first showed up. Up until then, I had just been confused and a little bored. Prior to actually entering the theater, I was completely fucking stoked.

This is pretty much exactly how it went for me - my wife waited in line for tickets, we went opening night, and I was giving it the benefit of the doubt until the 45 minute podrace scene in the middle of it just destroyed everything.

I saw the next two out of obligation but honestly don't remember much about either of; just the other day I had a flashback that there was a scene with a bunch of people fighting monsters in some sort of gladiator colosseum setting and I don't know which film that was in or what it was happening for.

joygoat, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link

I saw both TPM and Attack of the Clones twice in the theaters, each time thinking that maybe seeing it again would help. For my second go at Attack, I regrettably convinced a whole group of people to come watch it with me, assuring them that it was better than the first one. Boy were those confusing, frustrating times.

Never saw Revenge of the Sith until youtube came out and people would upload whole movies like "Part 1 of 12".

put your money where the maracas are (how's life), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link

i saw ep 2 on tv a little while ago and it was the most awful thing

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link

I saw the next two out of obligation but honestly don't remember much about either of; just the other day I had a flashback that there was a scene with a bunch of people fighting monsters in some sort of gladiator colosseum setting and I don't know which film that was in or what it was happening for.

― joygoat, Monday, December 1, 2014 11:01 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

My entire memory of the first three is a blur -- like I can't remember anything specific that happened in any of them and I am honestly not sure whether I saw all three of them or not.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link

I feel like there was a part where someone went underwater and it was sort of like the end of The Abyss if The Abyss had muppets.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link

for TPM my mom held a star wars party!!!! for me and my friends before we all went to the theater. i was 10. that was probably the most exciting moment of my life up til that point. i don't remember how i felt afterward but it wasn't ecstatic.

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link

III is honestly a fair bit better than the other two, taking it up to a slightly below average summer blockbuster.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:12 (nine years ago) link

otm - I still remember skipping school with my best friend at the time, his mom sanctioned it, drove us to the theater. "i don't remember how i felt afterward but it wasn't ecstatic" - same

, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link

the emotional climax of III is "he killed...younglings," come on. III was marginally improved by having a lot more of McDiarmid but that is really about all I could say for it.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:14 (nine years ago) link

I was just about to say that you should never ever listen to anyone who attempts to convince you that that third one "actually isn't that bad"

Number None, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link

2 is better than 1: the rainy planet, the hilarious love scenes. 3 is competent in a way that makes me like it less--it's just good enough to bump itself into a bracket where it cannot compete. 1 meanwhile has nothing. just nothing. these days the opening crawl about the interstellar trade federation and the disputed tax policy and confusion in the galactic senate rly makes me wistful: wish that movie was real.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link

III was better than VI, IIRC, but that's not saying a whole lot.

Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link

There's one surefire upside to Episode 7: it's sure to look golden in comparison to the preceding episode.

Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link

for TPM my mom held a star wars party!!!! for me and my friends before we all went to the theater. i was 10. that was probably the most exciting moment of my life up til that point. i don't remember how i felt afterward but it wasn't ecstatic.

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, December 1, 2014 11:11 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wait, did you go to the midnight showing at Snowden?

put your money where the maracas are (how's life), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link

I was just about to say that you should never ever listen to anyone who attempts to convince you that that third one "actually isn't that bad"

It's far from an actual good movie, but it is more enjoyable than the others, and has some semblance of atmosphere and dramatic weight. I don't care enough that I'd expend much effort trying to convince anyone, just offering my opinion.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link

xp yeah snowden. not sure if the palace 9 was closed down yet but i know it wasn't there.

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link

I think the feeling of seeing the trade ministers

The befuddlement

It's a feeling I can still recall with some measurement of accuracy

, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link

Ep 1 - I remember the podrace, Jar-Jar, and that weird-ass immaculate conception dialogue/reveal.

Ep 2 - Wasn't part of this about Boba Fett's kid or something? Or Boba Fett as a kid? I can't conjure up a single memory from this; for me, its enduring legacy is Triumph's nerd-baiting outside a NYC theater.

Ep 3 - Felt like I napped through most of it, and then woke up suddenly when heavy shit went down near the end thinking, huh, that wasn't completely awful.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link

xposts

old lunch the force is telling me that you have something to say about Return of the Jedi. out with it!

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link

oh and definitely not midnight. 5 or 5:30. i remember this day very well. xp xp xp

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link

everything that i can remember about episodes 2 and 3 comes from the words in the titles. episode 1 i remember clearly, sadly, because i saw it 3 times in theaters trying to convince myself that it wasn't broken

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link

I think the feeling of seeing the trade ministers

The befuddlement

It's a feeling I can still recall with some measurement of accuracy

― 龜, Monday, December 1, 2014 11:25 AM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god totally. it made me feel dumb. love how george always says adults didn't like it bc they forget the original trilogy was FOR KIDS but then he makes it all about tariffs.

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link

Ah ok. That would make sense, but there were definitely some younger kids in the audience.

xp to zach.

put your money where the maracas are (how's life), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link

when heavy shit went down near the end

For all my half-hearted defence of III earlier, I must admit that the Anakin/Obi-Wan lava fight is completely fucking stupid.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link

III was so ugly and inkompetent. If people hadn't known for 20 years what would happen, none of it would make sense. I still can't figure out if the jedis realize they are about to be murdered, or if they have some weird tick.

Frederik B, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link

ep 3 came out when i was a wizened 17 and there really was a lot of hype about it being Not That Bad, and it sort of wasn't too embarrassing. george obv listened to the criticism a bit and buried jar jar etc. that's the era of me reading slashfilm and being a pretty genuine nerdlinger, maybe that's the new internet marketing evil christopher ott is talking about itt

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link

Hah yeah 3 was the only one I felt kind of good about after leaving the theater

, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link

I hear DLH's criticism of it above, but it makes sense to me since I have always rated ROTJ over ESB

, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link

I want my cheap emotional highs

, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link

The only good thing to come out of TPM was Darth Maul

, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link

The best part of that was that Lucas created an interesting character and completely intended for him to immediately die

like the only new interesting character, you throw him down the well

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link

I remember one scene in II, I think, where they were trapped in this giant absurd factory, running around on conveyor belts and trying to escape the giant stamping hammers, swinging blades, and jets of flame that you normally get in factories. The whole thing was transparently designed for a videogame (and ripped off of countless others). IIRC this was the scene where R2 suddenly developed the flying ability he'd never previously shown any evidence of. (Or that he would never again show any evidence of, in the movie timeline.)

Kelly Gang Carey and the Mantels (ledge), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link

it was about boba fett that's it

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link

I will admit to some guilty lols about R2 and Yoda having these capabilities in Episode I-III. Overemphasizing that everything is shiny and new and acting like the original trilogy was old and broken was one of the stupidest things about the prequel trilogy. Everything was supposed to be dirty and piecemeal because it's an old universe, not because the Emperor took over.

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link

at some point in that conveyor belt scene, a machine rips off the midriff of natalie portman's space outfit: lucas inserting Sex

difficult listening hour, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link

Worth mentioning that the most reasonable scripts of the whole series (Star Wars/Empire Strikes Back) were heavily contributed to or edited by women. I think it's been shrugged off by Lucas, but his ex-wife had some strong contributions to script editing and not just film editing.

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:45 (nine years ago) link

also, lol:

For the film's famous opening crawl, Lucas wrote a six-paragraph (with four sentences each) composition. He said that "The crawl is such a hard thing because you have to be careful that you're not using too many words that people don't understand. It's like a poem." Lucas showed his draft to his friends. Director Brian De Palma, who was there, described it: "The crawl at the beginning looks like it was written on a driveway. It goes on forever. It's gibberish." He said to Lucas, "You're out of your mind... Let me write this for you"; De Palma helped to edit the text into the form used in the film.

I would like to hear what De Palma thinks about the trade federation

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link

all these posts about the prequels, preceded by enthusiasm for the new sequels, is incredible

xp

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link

some sort of abuse survivor rationalization syndrome

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link

it took YEARS for people to turn on the prequels and admit they were terrible

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:50 (nine years ago) link

There are plenty of stories told in the expanded Star Wars universe that are interesting, even in what's now seen as canonical. There are a couple reasonable cartoon series, including a new one that precedes/runs concurrently with the rebellion. Three shit movies with one common denominator (George Lucas thinking he should write/direct them) doesn't mean that future movies will be bad. Lucas out of the writer/director role means there's very little linkage between Eps 1 - 3 and 7.

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link

uh no, I firmly remember thinking "do I even need to see this in the theater" about Ep 2? Who are these people you're talking about?

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link

xpost
no way! if i remember correctly the day after TPM came out everyone was barfing in the streets

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link

70s trailers are pretty goofy compared to today's fare:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kd5_WzYcH0

schwantz, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link

oh I dunno, how about these people? Ned, Ally etc. The Phantom Menace: What The Hell is Wrong With It?

xp

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link

lol @ "looks like it was written on a driveway"

difficult listening hour, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link

it took YEARS for people to turn on the prequels and admit they were terrible

The very first published review appeared on the internet, on a home theater forum, about 2 days before the wide release of the movie, and it was an absolute pan. As were many of the contemporaneous traditional media reviews.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link

YEARS meaning more than two? half the people on that thread were saying it was crap in 2001, two years after release

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link

also hilariously the 2009 revive is half posts of Shakey complaining about Star Wars

tell me who this is really about, man

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

oh I dunno, how about these people? Ned, Ally etc. The Phantom Menace: What The Hell is Wrong With It?

xp

― Οὖτις, Monday, December 1, 2014 11:54 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a couple of ilx challops

you and rt both really need to take a step back from ilx imo

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

I guess I'd call myself a passive Star Wars fan (although I've read some of the books, for the love of christ), but I don't honestly know that I'd call any of the films legitimately Good Movies. I'm about as excited for the next sequel as I am about the prospect of a Last Starfighter sequel. It'll be fun to see and probably promptly forget about.

Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

ANAKIN: I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and
irritating, and it gets everywhere. Not like here. Here
everything's soft... and smooth...

i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

As were many of the contemporaneous traditional media reviews.

I'm talking about audiences not film critics

this thread also entertaining/relevant: Attack Of The Clones

Dan and Ned really drinkin the Kool-Aid in these threads :(

xp

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link

it took YEARS for ned raggett, representative of the human race, to do a thing

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link

barfing in the streets

They're barfing in Chicago...down in New Orleans...in New York City...

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link

also irl lol:

If you watch four years after release at home on a Saturday morning, not remotely excremental. Even the Frankie & Annette in Space romantic scenes take on an Ed Wood-with-a-budget fascination.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:00 AM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link

Maybe for some fans, but I recall the general tide of opinion turning against the Phantom Menace almost immediately after it came out.

Punny Names (latebloomer), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link

it took YEARS for ned raggett, representative of the human race, to do a thing

Hi there!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link

Like I said up the thread, the only thing I have to lose is ten bucks and two hours. Some years my favorite sports teams suck, it's not like I'm not going to watch them.

joygoat, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link

"it took YEARS for people to turn on the prequels and admit they were terrible

― Οὖτις"

talking shite

Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link

Hi there!

― Ned Raggett, Monday, December 1, 2014 12:00 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is such an honor

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link

Uh....x post

Punny Names (latebloomer), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link

it took YEARS for ned raggett, representative of the human race, to do a thing

look dude, these movies made bajillions of dollars. Loads and loads of people went to see them, repeatedly. They did not disappear from memory or from view after humanity's collective recoiling in horror. I am not making things up that people like(d) the prequels. The internet-driven narrative that they were uniformly awful/inept etc. developed later, and wasn't really firmly in place til the third movie came out and people started to get embarrassed about defending Lucas's shitty skills.

xp

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link

your memory isn't better than everyone else's

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:05 (nine years ago) link

seeing as how you guys are all happily repressing how unbearably shitty this franchise has been for 25+ years I'd say yeah my memory is better

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:05 (nine years ago) link

"it's still good! it's still good!"

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link

zeitgeisty monoculture movies making a billion dollars isn't a surprise

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link

seeing as how you guys are all happily repressing how unbearably shitty this franchise has been for 25+ years I'd say yeah my memory is better

― Οὖτις, Monday, December 1, 2014 12:05 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

help us ned raggett you're our only hope

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link

I was watching Star Trek V the other day and realized that it's better than any of the prequels.

― polyphonic, Friday, 15 July 2011 22:43 (3 years ago)

the sad thing is, this is totally true

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link

Prequels kind of serves to show me it has always been shitty and that's more or less the point. Sci fi trash. Space opera pulp. Flashy special effects, fututistic vs. ancient tech juxtaposition, lots of silly names, etc. ROTJ in particular doesn't hold up well under scrutiny. It's basically a prequel movie made with the original cast.

The idea that people didn't think TPM was garbage immediately after release (or that the internet is why people think they are awful) is silly. And making lots of money does not prove anything.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link

a slightly below average summer blockbuster

Was going to protest this but I basically don't go to summer blockbusters that don't say 'Marvel' so I may have artificially high expectations.

One thing I did like about ROTJ was Liam Neeson's Kurosawa Jedi - not really very clear what film he'd fit in. It might actually have worked better to actually have him as Obi-Wan and Ewan McGregor as Anakin.

Actually while I'm letting my nerdlinger fly / annoying Οὖτις (reminded by a post above), here's a super dorky restructuring of TPM that improves it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgICnbC2-_Y

There's one surefire upside to Episode 7: it's sure to look golden in comparison to the preceding episode.

Contrariwise, I think ROTJ suffers a bit from the fact that it's after Empire. I know that Lucas's assumption of the mantle of Master Storyteller is the worst thing about him, but for once, he fell ass-backward into something that works for some people - obviously if you're not feeling the scene with Vader watching the Emperor fry Luke, then there's a lot less in it for you.

I also appreciate that these are all views that we've had for a long time.

I remember an interview with the fight choreographer for the Luke/Vader fight, who was told "nothing too flashy - if we care more about the fight than who's fighting then we've lost them".

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link

i saw star wars on the teevee and on video when i was a kid, several times. It was great when i was under 12 and i had all the action figures and ralph mcquarrie books and shit. my darth vader was headless because i hung him from the venetian blinds and his noggin popped off. i still have my childhood star wars pillowcases, that's about the only memorabilia still in my possession.
empire was one of the first films I saw in the theater. I remember yoda being on the front page of the paper and thinking I AM SEEING THE NEWS TODAY. i fucking loved it.
i saw return in the theaters like six times.
in the early nineties dawn of the internet, finding IRC Star Wars rooms was an early obsession.
in college, i lived with a guy who would put on any of the original movies and parrot the dialogue in sync with the film from the couch. he would do this about twice a week and every month or two he'd have a geek gathering and they'd play all the films back to back. i found this annoying but not so much so as to comment on it.
in the run up to the prequels i bought A LOT of action figures that I never took out of the box. like a wall's worth.
i waited in line for opening night of the phantom menace. that shit was terrible. i think i rewatched it on video a year later with a friend who bought a copy and demanded we see it together. it was still terrible.
i saw whatever the fuck the second film was called on video about three years after it came out. that shit was also terrible.
Somewhere around here i sold or gave away all my old star wars shit.
i never saw the third one and yeah everyone says it's the best one. i am okay with never having seen it and never taking the time to see it.
i'll probably watch the abrams one when it comes out on netflix or hbo or whatever in 2016; it'll probably be fine.
i can see rewatching the canonical original trilogy if it's with a child who hasn't seen it before.
i cannot imagine ever watching or rewatching the prequels or any other accompanying cartoons or nostalgia or whatever.
star wars is really a silly phenomenon

Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link

Ehhhhhhhhhhhh. I'm with those who remember having to hesitate/justify/give up on Eps 2 and 3 re: should I bother? Should I get my friends to go? I remember leaving TPM citing the Roger Ebert review in my head, trying to get stoked for this really inventive, vivid world that had been created, but there wasn't anything that left your heart racing, made you want to be those characters or stuck in your brain at all really. And this isn't just being old and jaded; I remember leaving Pirates of the Caribbean a few years later and totally having that thing going of being a kid where after you leave the pirate movie you're ready to be a pirate all the way out the door and through the parking lot.

Recall how much of the push for III revolved around "No, it's better than the other two!" The title of "Attack of the Clones" also got a lot of people, not necessarily serious nerd types, to go "wait, this whole thing is kinda goofy."

The one thing AOTC has that I kinda liked, leaving the theater, was all the stuff with Obi-Wan going around solving a mystery on weird planets. It wasn't a good mystery, and they weren't great scenes, but at least it felt a little bit pacey, like there was a story going on, things were going to unfold rather than just happening. Similarly the one good thing in ROTS is Palpatine talking to Anakin, but they used most of that in the trailer. TPM has essentially nothing any Star Wars fan needs to see.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link

reminder when you say "people thought it was garbage" you actually mean adults thought it was garbage, because they were too bluntly reminded this was a family film first and went about edited out jarjar scenes in fanmade copies like george lucas post edit maniacs.

Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link

I remember an interview with the fight choreographer for the Luke/Vader fight, who was told "nothing too flashy - if we care more about the fight than who's fighting then we've lost them".

― Andrew Farrell, Monday, December 1, 2014 12:13 PM (59 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this was the biggest thing in the RLM takedown of TPM, comparing the original trilogy duels to the prequels

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:19 (nine years ago) link

How anyone who loved all that camp kooky shit in the original trilogy had this massive problem all of a sudden with things they deemed too much aimed at kids. The prequels in other ways were a big step up in every regard. Other than II.

Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link

"Ja Ja Binks makes the fucking Ewoks look like Shaft!"

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link

Insisting that mega buxx = well- and fondly-remembered doesn't really work in a universe with Avatar.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link

i still have no idea what the clones/jango fett/all that stuff was about, any of it. so many darths. so many tariffs. gr8 kids movie

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

camp kooky shit in the original trilogy

um, wrong

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

my experience mirrors forks' tbh

(with the exception of never having seen the 2nd or 3rd prequels beyond some random scenes on TV recently)

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link

I think the final act of ROTJ is very compelling cinema. Even the Ewok planet stuff I thought was fun and made a good dramatic counterbalance to the heavy stuff going on in space and on the death star. I think it's a very balanced final act with very good pacing.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:24 (nine years ago) link

avatar was a way better movie theater experience than any of the star wars prequels imo, even if i never need/want to see it again

ciderpress, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:24 (nine years ago) link

How anyone who loved all that camp kooky shit in the original trilogy had this massive problem all of a sudden with things they deemed too much aimed at kids.

Yeah it's so hypocritical how the same people who enjoyed the Jim Henson creations in the original trilogy hated the gungans. Clearly they just forgot it's a kids movie.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link

Are we seriously, in 2014, having an argument with someone trolling on the "but the originals were made for kids too! Have I sufficiently blown your mind?" tip?

it's like poetry

Doctor Casino, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link

for anyone saying that people actually *liked* TPM when it first came out, check that Herring podcast linked above with Serafinowicz, to hear the story of the in-theater premiere-night reaction from the actual cast and crew and hold onto your hat.

piscesx, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:26 (nine years ago) link

Nowadays, I'm kinda more fascinated with Star Wars as a cultural institution than I am with any of its constituent cultural products (à la Disney).

But honestly, it was always more about the monster and droid design than anything else. That shit was dope.

Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:30 (nine years ago) link

"Are we seriously, in 2014, having an argument with someone trolling on the "but the originals were made for kids too! Have I sufficiently blown your mind?" tip?

it's like poetry

― Doctor Casino"

But and so and but so seems like you are (sorry if I ignored you earlier) and have been multiple times right in this thread, crazy right? 2014 seriously like too and!

Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link

was that gungan?

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:33 (nine years ago) link

whatever you were going for there failed

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:34 (nine years ago) link

^^^ the story of the Star Wars prequels

Doctor Casino, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:36 (nine years ago) link

He accidentally omitted the C I A L I S.

Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:36 (nine years ago) link

was that gungan?

― my jaw left (Hurting 2)

whatever you were going for there failed

― linda cardellini (zachlyon),

David Foster Wallace actually, direct quote. Not that I'd expect you to know that.

Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link

proud of u

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

hahaha, this guy

Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

Kooky one, Tanuki

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

Man that utility meter data thing really did a number on Shakey when it comes to Star Wars. RIP.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link

keep forgetting he's a sock

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link

Shakes?

, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link

I hear utility meter data figures heavily in the JJ Abrams sequels fyi

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link

"whatever you were going for there failed

― linda cardellini (zachlyon),"

Haha. Oh dear linda cardellini, oh. dear. I should've worked some Shakaespeare in too.

Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link

that Serafinowicz thing is a little time investment but it does build and build, fucking diiiiiiiiied laughing just now when it got to the issue of Terence Stamp's compensation (no spoilers).

Doctor Casino, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:55 (nine years ago) link

i have been sonned don't forget me

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:58 (nine years ago) link

Cardellini you've been sonned by a sock.

Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 1 December 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link

the joke's on you i'm not actually linda cardellini

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 18:19 (nine years ago) link

no that means jokes definitely still on you

Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 1 December 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link

TPM has essentially nothing any Star Wars fan needs to see.

TPM has all of the ludicrous Queen Amidala wigs and makeup, which everyone needs to see.

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Monday, 1 December 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link

a couple of ilx challops

you and rt both really need to take a step back from ilx imo

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, December 1, 2014 4:58 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha challumps am i right

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 1 December 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link

Still haven't figured out the relationship between Padme and Queen Amidala xp

, Monday, 1 December 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link

lol

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link

Queen is an elected position on their planet (!) and her full name is Padme Amidala or some shit, iirc

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link

xpost this is going to blow your mind, but padme and queen amidala are played by the same actress (natalie portman)! their characters also have a lot in common. i could explain more but it gets pretty nerdy

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Monday, 1 December 2014 18:41 (nine years ago) link

!

Why is one named Padme and the other is named Queen Amidala?

Sorry, that's jsut the first questino to pop into mym ind

, Monday, 1 December 2014 18:43 (nine years ago) link

Honestly this movie is so solidly pitched at Shakey's demographic I mean just look at this screencap

http://i.imgur.com/uIMVnES.jpg?1

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Monday, 1 December 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link

Loooooooool

, Monday, 1 December 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link

one is the Queen, one is the Queen's body double

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 1 December 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link

amidala truthers are the worst

Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 December 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link

Queen amidala is her official name, Padme is her first name. They are the same character. She pretended to be her own handmaiden under the name Padme for a bit in TMP so she could check out tattooine or something.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 1 December 2014 18:51 (nine years ago) link

Who was the Queen then while Padme was the handmaiden

, Monday, 1 December 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link

Why do they have different accents if they're the same person?

jmm, Monday, 1 December 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link

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Doctor Casino, Monday, 1 December 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link

but who pretended to be queen amidala? was there a real padme? someone once told me one of the padmes was keira knightley. is that true? why doesn't norma care that her sister's in the black lodge?

difficult listening hour, Monday, 1 December 2014 18:55 (nine years ago) link

System you're supposed to warn me about xposts!

difficult listening hour, Monday, 1 December 2014 18:56 (nine years ago) link

i can see rewatching the canonical original trilogy if it's with a child who hasn't seen it before.

except that's no longer possible, right?

@NickPinkerton
If you were a kid in the 70s, I can understand why Star Wars is important to you. Baffling otherwise. In that respect it's like KISS fandom.

^he's a film critic

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 December 2014 18:57 (nine years ago) link

with the internet, all things are possible.

guys, amidala was the white swan; I never understand why everyone gets this confused.

Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 December 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link

Why do they have different accents if they're the same person?

― jmm, Monday, December 1, 2014 1:54 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It was a callback to Carrie Fisher's performance in the first film.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 1 December 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link

Huh, Sofia Coppola was a handmaid as well.

jmm, Monday, 1 December 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link

I mean just look at this screencap

lol well played

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link

relevant resource: http://royalhandmaidensociety.org/

difficult listening hour, Monday, 1 December 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link

John Simon called Leia "Organic Lay."

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 December 2014 19:07 (nine years ago) link

except that's no longer possible, right?

? I just re-watched ESB and ROTJ with my 7yo daughter, it was her first time seeing them. ESB is p good ROTJ is stupid, and even the Ewoks/Endor gave her pause.

xp

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link

Guys... what if there were actually three Queen Amidalas?

, Monday, 1 December 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link

http://www.royalhandmaidensociety.org/decoy_queen.html

Producer Rick McCallum did nothing to help our cause during on online chat with fans. Here's the text of the Lucasfilm chat from June 7, 1999:

ASKLucasfilm: Jedi-Al says: Rick, was it a separate actress that played the "fake" queen, when Natalie was Padme on screen? I didn't see her name in the credits.

RickMcCallum: No, it's Natalie that plays both parts.

Thanks a lot Rick!

jmm, Monday, 1 December 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link

all the handmaidens rule together; they just take turns with the makeup+hair

difficult listening hour, Monday, 1 December 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link

Shakey, what I meant was the PURE, unfucked-with-by-GL original-release versions are not unavailable unless you have some videotapes from the '90s.

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 December 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link

ah. yeah I don't have those.

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 19:24 (nine years ago) link

I got that on VHS somewhere at home but it has commercials

Kooki-Wan Tanooki (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 December 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link

I have those but only in P&S format

, Monday, 1 December 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link

I remember picking the silver color too over the gold color one (the letterbox) at Shoprite

What a fool

, Monday, 1 December 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link

you kids and your aspect-ratio problems

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 December 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link

Shakey, what I meant was the PURE, unfucked-with-by-GL original-release versions are not unavailable unless you have some videotapes from the '90s.

― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius

http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Two-Disc-Widescreen-Theatrical/dp/B000FQJAIW

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 December 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link

IIRC, for those "special feature" reissues of the untouched OG trilogy, George Lucas pretty much just played some of his old Betamax copies on a shitty TV and videotaped the results.

Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 December 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link

IIRC, for those "special feature" reissues of the untouched OG trilogy, George Lucas pretty much just played some of his old Betamax copies on a shitty TV and videotaped the results.

Yep. They look TERRIBLE. Like one-fourth the size of whatever screen you view them on, blurry, just awful.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 1 December 2014 19:52 (nine years ago) link

In a Reddit interview with fans, when asked who shot first, Harrison Ford's reply was simply, "I don't know and I don't care." In a 2014 photo posted by Industrial Light and Magic's Twitter feed, the actor is shown holding a piece of paper that reads "I shot first."

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 December 2014 19:53 (nine years ago) link

been covered in this thread many times but anyone who cares abt this stuff need only search for "star wars despecialized" in the right parts of town

difficult listening hour, Monday, 1 December 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link

rewatched Empire last night

thank god for this thread - you guys, it turns out this movie BLOWS! my whole life i never knew

mind=blown

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 December 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link

i'm not even the biggest SW fan or anything but this shit is pretty infuriating:

http://originaltrilogy.com/Lucasfilm_PR_response.cfm

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 1 December 2014 19:58 (nine years ago) link

* lightsaber lit *

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 December 2014 19:58 (nine years ago) link

The Empire Strikes Back is first-rate and the only reason the SW universe has any mythos or shows of feeling.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 December 2014 19:58 (nine years ago) link

I think VG is trolling but ya never know.

btw are they gonna manage to get digitally resurrected Alec Guinness into this one?

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 December 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link

As you may know, an enormous amount of effort was put into digitally restoring the negatives for the Special Editions. In one scene alone, nearly 1 million pieces of dirt had to be removed

i want to know their methodology for counting the number of pieces of dirt

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Monday, 1 December 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link

special Vacu-Droid w/laser cannon iirc

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 December 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link

xxpost Nah, he's a practical effect this time around. A marionette, I believe.

Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 December 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link

max has written a thing:

http://defamer.gawker.com/i-will-see-all-the-star-wars-movies-because-i-am-a-hope-1665238831

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 December 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link

Good piece

The thing that is gonna be weird for me is that I basically grew up with the SW extended canon before even watching the movies

Like one of the first SW books I read (after ADF's novelizations) was Timothy Zahn's the Last Command which itself was the final part of a three part series

, Monday, 1 December 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link

Well it probably would've been less time and energy to just clean off the dirt instead of stopping to count all of the pieces!

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 1 December 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link

Goddammit Karl Malone beat me to the joke.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 1 December 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link

I had probably put away 5-6 books + spent about 50 hours on X-Wing's first mission that I could never beat before even getting a chance to buy and see the series on VHS (Can quite clearly remember the morning I finally watched SW)

It's gonna be hard to just point my finger at that stuff and say "that's not canon" and accept the new movies as overwriting them

O well

, Monday, 1 December 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link

It's kinda like the Marvel movies. I just accept that they're a variation of the stories I'm used to. Which is cool as long as the movies bring it.

Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 December 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link

I will probably lose my fucking shit and start bawling like a child in the theater if Grand Admiral Thrawn makes even a small cameo

, Monday, 1 December 2014 20:17 (nine years ago) link

Bantha poodoo.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 December 2014 20:17 (nine years ago) link

omg leaked photo of Adam Driver's character

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081126192732/starwars/images/4/4a/Nien_Nunb_JKTCG.jpg

Kooki-Wan Tanooki (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 December 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link

You know, the best way to describe this new lightsaber is that it looks like something Kevin J. Andersen would have come up with

That fucker

, Monday, 1 December 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link

Records from circa 400 BBY indicate that Keiran Halcyon constructed a special dual phase lightsaber that could go from the standard 1.3 meters to a length of three meters with flick of a switch.

And he didn't even have to take any pills or learn any special exercises

, Monday, 1 December 2014 20:29 (nine years ago) link

as I've said before, I want to shoot geeks out of a cannon when i hear "canon"

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 December 2014 20:44 (nine years ago) link

Any other reaction wouldn't be Morbs canon.

Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 December 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link

I so want that cute rolling droid to be worse than Jar Jar for the sake of that tattoo owner.

joygoat, Monday, 1 December 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link

I want to believe that the lightsaber is called Ouch-Hands.

Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 December 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link

Having to wait a whole year for this is making me IA

Kooki-Wan Tanooki (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 December 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link

some nerd made it into a big fuck off version

http://i.imgur.com/1STDEa3.gif

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 1 December 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link

Looks kinda like Ichigo's zangetsu

, Monday, 1 December 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link

If anyone cares, the Despecialized Editions (on P!r@t3 B@y) are pretty sweet HD re-creations of the original SW movies. For example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHfLX_TMduY

schwantz, Monday, 1 December 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link

ugh he/s gotta point about those excess 'magenta tones' wtf man.

piscesx, Monday, 1 December 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link

I think it's been shrugged off by Lucas, but his ex-wife had some strong contributions to script editing and not just film editing.

This is a really good read:

http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/marcialucas.html

nate woolls, Monday, 1 December 2014 21:56 (nine years ago) link

Re: dirt removal, it reminds me of the digital clean up filter that they ran Kind of Blue through, which erased a lot of the brushed snare, which the computer thought was hiss and noise. Special Editions are movie equivalents to that.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 December 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link

there was still tempered excitement about the second and third prequels (i was in high school/college) because people kept thinking some cool stuff had to happen eventually. it was a fun thing to think about. i saw ROTS at midnight on opening day and still remember the total silence as the end credits started, and the palpable deflated feeling in the audience as the light came up.

slam dunk, Monday, 1 December 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link

TPM was my first experience with heartbreak ever (which is why I'm kinda incredulous at Shakey's "everybody loved them at first")

the most painstaking, humorless people in the world (lukas), Monday, 1 December 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link

some nerd made it into a big fuck off version

http://i.imgur.com/1STDEa3.gif

Dark Souls: The Movie

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 1 December 2014 22:46 (nine years ago) link

I had a lot of arguments about TPM, everybody seemed to want to make excuses for it ("it's for kids!", "but ______ was cool!" etc.)

xp

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 22:46 (nine years ago) link

yeah Mr Veg & I both were flipping out over the early TPM teasers & that cool poster of Anakin with Darth's shadow & Darth Maul looking all badass

and then we saw it & i clearly remember both of us going ok what the fuck was that
my clearest memory was how annoying that fkin anakin kid was & how darth maul was like the world's biggest merch con

i am not even rewriting history when i say my disappointment was palpable

ep2 really hammered that home weeee trade federationzzzzzz

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 December 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link

I had a friend call me after an early screening of Episode 2. "You've got to see it!" he proclaimed. "Why," I asked, "is it good?" "No!" he answered. "It's terrible! It actually begins with people walking off a ship and saying, phew, that was a close one, and then the ship blows up! And then it gets worse!"

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 December 2014 23:26 (nine years ago) link

lol

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 December 2014 23:29 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/mR2EWDc.gif

Evan, Monday, 1 December 2014 23:35 (nine years ago) link

Does the dude stuff himself in?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 December 2014 23:57 (nine years ago) link

spent entire showing of Ep 2 doing Mystery Science Theater commentary with friend.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 December 2014 23:58 (nine years ago) link

i am not even rewriting history when i say my disappointment was palpatine

dr bronner's new and improved peppermint (soda), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 00:30 (nine years ago) link

the emperor's first name is Sheev

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 00:35 (nine years ago) link

lol soda

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 00:44 (nine years ago) link

That Phantom Menace making-of was good. The storm taking out their Mos Eisley set, very gratifying.

jmm, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 01:23 (nine years ago) link

Just got to the bit with Lucas and Spielberg trying to fix a battle droid, hahahaha.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 01:38 (nine years ago) link

"that's gonna be great"

Number None, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 01:40 (nine years ago) link

"These guys are just useless"

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 01:41 (nine years ago) link

"Jedis cut through them like butter."

jmm, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 01:42 (nine years ago) link

"Corooskant?"

jmm, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 01:42 (nine years ago) link

sometimes the butter is cold and hard, and this creates drama.

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 01:58 (nine years ago) link

darth maul was like the world's biggest merch con

Totally, dude looked scary and and awesome but turned out to be a stupid red mute juggalo who gets chopped in half. It's funny that he's like the iconic image of this movie and people have tattoos of him and shit.

Though really Boba Fett is kind lame as the badass icon of the original trilogy. He's basically a UPS guy who delivered a package then fell into a giant sand hole.

joygoat, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 01:59 (nine years ago) link

Few sounds are as crazy as this one. The base effect is that of an alligator hissing (another animal whose call that doesn’t fit), but this is mixed with the sound of some of the film’s crew’s stomachs having just eaten (pizza of all things).How Burtt decided to do that is anybodies guess, although it does explain the other strange sound the sarlacc makes; the burp was probably just a burp.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 02:03 (nine years ago) link

xpost plus now he's a bloody kiwi ffs

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 02:08 (nine years ago) link

thanks for the new dn joygoat

a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 02:53 (nine years ago) link

lol joygoat

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 03:42 (nine years ago) link

When Episode III: Revenge of the Sith was released, handmaiden fans were hoping we would gain more knowledge about the newest handmaidens and next Queen of Naboo. Unfortunately, their roles were minimized and their scenes deleted.

who cares? the moon sucks. (The Yellow Kid), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 04:10 (nine years ago) link

I'd have an opinion about the trailer except I am way too distracted by the fact that this "hilt" wouldn't do it's job since the opponent lightsaber "blade" would fit inside the corner below the hilt beam and destroy it. It wouldn't block anything. What is this bullshit gimmick? Fucking infomercial lightsabers.

― Evan, Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:53 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I say the beam continues inside the metal hilt part. It needs to be enclosed next to the handle so that you don't scorch your hand.

― jmm, Sunday, November 30, 2014 12:08 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hahaha wow Colbert just went through both of these points EXACTLY on the show tonight. Was pretty good.

Evan, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 04:44 (nine years ago) link

I don't really agree with Shakey's "people hating on the prequels right from the start is revisionist history" comments either. Maybe it applies to folks who first saw the prequels as children, and then revisited them as adults... But back in 1999 my friends were in their late teens and early 20s, and I remember every one of them said Phantom Menace was shit, both the Star Wars fans and non-fans.

For example, my flatmate of the time was one of those people who queued for 24 hours to get the tickets to the TPM premiere, and she went there with some geek friends, wearing capes and plastic lightsabers, etc. And when she came back from the cinema, I asked whether the movie was good, she was just like, yeah, it was pretty good, but somehow she sounded way less enthusiastic than before seeing it... Then a couple of days later I saw TPM too, and I said to her, it was actually pretty crappy, wasn't it, and she had to admit that it was.

I think she'd just been so excited before TPM came out that it took a little while for her to get past that enthusiasm and admit that it was awful, and maybe a similar thing happened with other fans, but the processing time we're talking about here was days, not years.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 07:46 (nine years ago) link

it took YEARS for people to turn on the prequels and admit they were terrible

― Οὖτις, Monday, December 1, 2014 4:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If you're going to go to the trouble of trolling this thread for weeks and weeks and weeks you should get your facts straight. Negative response to TPM was almost instantaneous, if not blanket.

you fuck one chud... (stevie), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 10:44 (nine years ago) link

dont see what there really is to be excited about in that trailer. it could come from any of the previous films and means nothing. id have liked just one shot of the falcon or something a bit more coherent. or something a bit more enigmatic or genuinely teasery.

StillAdvance, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 11:55 (nine years ago) link

the series of three Star Wars making of books by J W Rinzler that have come out in the last 5 or 6 years are really fantastic and as people have been saying, very relevatory in showing how many of the best ideas came from everyone around Lucas, especially when it came to Empire and Jedi... i was actually surprised how much it goes into that given they're officially approved, but maybe George doesn't give a shit anymore. with the first film its especially obvious that nearly all of his first ideas - "so this kid is called pookoo starkiller the fourth if the jedi bendu power legion" - are rejected pretty quickly when his wife / brian depalma / the postman say "that shit sounds dumb" - ep 4 went through soooo many drafts to remove the nonsense, its amazing how well it ruend out

jamiesummerz, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 12:06 (nine years ago) link

*turned out

jamiesummerz, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 12:07 (nine years ago) link

there was plenty of negative response to the phantom menace when it came out, but there was also this insane "i liked it more the second, third, fourth time" sentiment among some folks like i'd never seen before and never to such a degree since

da croupier, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 14:12 (nine years ago) link

I did have a friend who saw it three times hoping it would get better.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 14:19 (nine years ago) link

and that was also the standard response for why people went back for 2nd and 3rd sequel helpings; hoping it/they would get better.

piscesx, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 14:23 (nine years ago) link

he series of three Star Wars making of books by J W Rinzler that have come out in the last 5 or 6 years are really fantastic and as people have been saying, very relevatory in showing how many of the best ideas came from everyone around Lucas, especially when it came to Empire and Jedi... i was actually surprised how much it goes into that given they're officially approved, but maybe George doesn't give a shit anymore. with the first film its especially obvious that nearly all of his first ideas

I wonder – I really don't know – to what degree the novels written since 1999 have built up more affection for the notion of Star Wars than Lucas did on his own. I mean, there's novels out about every wrinkle in the SW universe ("What happened b/w IG-88 and Dengar as they journeyd to Vader's Super Star Destroyer? Let's pitch the idea!"). I read one of those books, The Rise of Darth Vader, out of sheer curiosity; it wasn't bad at all and fleshed out stuff that Lucas' direction had elided.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 14:24 (nine years ago) link

TPM was briefly the second highest grossing film in us history (ignoring inflation), and i wonder how much of that $430m came from folks saying "maybe it's MY fault"

and even with the undeniably diminished enthusiasm, the second film still made over $300m in the us alone. made more than the hobbit movies are making in current dollars.

and when TPM was released in 3D two years ago it made another 43m in the us. bet a portion of that was people hoping time had been kind to it.

da croupier, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 14:24 (nine years ago) link

maybe they hoped Jar-Jar would look different through 3D glasses

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 14:27 (nine years ago) link

Novels possibly quite a bit behind video games there's? Tho I may just be showing my biases.

Hah "scientists now suggest that the opening crawl in the prequels may have put a generation off reading"

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 14:31 (nine years ago) link

The crawls were cool as visual devices but terrible as storytelling devices

Kooki-Wan Tanooki (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 14:32 (nine years ago) link

I went w/ very low expectations on the UK release, since all the noise from the US had been bad, but I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. Not as bad as I'd been led to believe. When I went to see it again though… terrible, terrible boredom. Just a painful, dragging grind. That pod race seemed to go on forever.

woof, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 14:41 (nine years ago) link

Somewhere, in a galaxy far far away, that pod race is still happening.

Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 14:51 (nine years ago) link

I think I didn't see Phantom Menace until pretty late and I just remember it being a completely miserable, frustrating, depressing experience, something like Jacob must have felt after waiting 7 years to marry Rachel and he lifts the veil and it's Leah.

Kooki-Wan Tanooki (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link

I'd have an opinion about the trailer except I am way too distracted by the fact that this "hilt" wouldn't do it's job since the opponent lightsaber "blade" would fit inside the corner below the hilt beam and destroy it. It wouldn't block anything. What is this bullshit gimmick? Fucking infomercial lightsabers.

― Evan, Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:53 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I say the beam continues inside the metal hilt part. It needs to be enclosed next to the handle so that you don't scorch your hand.

― jmm, Sunday, November 30, 2014 12:08 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hahaha wow Colbert just went through both of these points EXACTLY on the show tonight. Was pretty good.

― Evan, Monday, December 1, 2014 11:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Link:
http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/videos/umsrnb/lightsaber-controversy

Evan, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 14:57 (nine years ago) link

There's a decent fan edit of the prequels floating around that squeezes all three films down to a tidy 2.5 hours or so and excises as much Jar Jar and Annie as possible.

Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 14:58 (nine years ago) link

Def feel like there's an auteurist case to be made that, however inept and unwatchable Phantom Menace etc etc actually are, they represent a genuine, individual vision, one that's fascinating precisely because of its disregard for so many of the agreed rules/demands of commercial genre filmmaking - whereas the Abrams installments will be professional, 'well made', and ultimately just more product.

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link

Wasn't it an actor who made it, or something? The Matthew Modine edit?

xpost

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 15:00 (nine years ago) link

Ep 7 Crawl should mention that a plague has completely wiped out the gungans.

Kooki-Wan Tanooki (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 15:00 (nine years ago) link

Ha, I just watched that Colbert bit.

I liked when he did the Sarcastic Dopey Strawman Interlocutor voice and then randomly named it Greg.

jmm, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 15:01 (nine years ago) link

that's my trouble with auteurist theory: the difference between professional well made product and inept unwatchable product is too negligible to matter.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 15:01 (nine years ago) link

Abrams installment, please.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 15:02 (nine years ago) link

Also eh, professional well made product gave us Casablanca, I'd settle for that.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 15:05 (nine years ago) link

weird challops -- being inept in a consistent way is not "auterist"

Kooki-Wan Tanooki (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 15:06 (nine years ago) link

Tell that to Jess Franco!

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 15:07 (nine years ago) link

the emperor's first name is Sheev

― Οὖτις, Monday, December 1, 2014 6:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you're one of those people who catalog really stupid things you've heard about something you used to be invested in so you can tell current fans they're dumb, aren't you?

also, lol Sheev

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link

colbert report included this tweet from bill corbett aka crow t. robot

poxy fülvous (abanana), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link

the difference between professional well made product and inept unwatchable product is too negligible to matter.

what kind of nonsense is this

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link

with auteur theory. I think it's nonsense too. If you read the classic texts, there's such a thing as a "Victor Fleming Movie" or a "Brett Ratner Movie."

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 15:42 (nine years ago) link

Being inept in an consistent way and driving away everyone who says / can say "No, that's stupid" = the test of true auteurs!

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 15:45 (nine years ago) link

Who said that (here or elsewhere)?

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link

Star Wars 7 shit talk

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link

("What happened b/w IG-88 and Dengar as they journeyd to Vader's Super Star Destroyer? Let's pitch the idea!")

lest we forget

The remaining IG-88 uploaded his consciousness into a computer core destined for Death Star II. He succeeded in being uploaded, and was preparing to activate his program to take over all droids in the galaxy when it was destroyed. With his consciousness in the Death Star II, he would literally become the Death Star.[3]

Emperor Palpatine was the only known person on the Death Star to suspect something was wrong after the uploading of the computer core with IG-88 inside. Before the station's destruction, he noticed a series of doors in his throne room opening and closing sporadically. IG-88 did this to show the Emperor that he was not all powerful. However, IG-88 was utterly baffled when it appeared that Emperor Palpatine used some unseen force to attempt to push the doors open. However, IG-88 exerted more force and was able to continue to keep the Emperor locked in, until he grew tired of the game and unlocked the door.[3]

Lando Calrissian and Wedge Antilles ended up destroying the core, destroying both the Death Star, and the A.I. of IG-88 as well.

Number None, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link

However, IG-88 exerted more force and was able to continue to keep the Emperor locked in, until he grew tired of the game and unlocked the door.[3]

hero

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link

One of the more damning takedowns of TPM is that suggested viewing order of all the films that just excises TPM entirely, dismissing everything that happens in it as inessential to all the other films. Machete Order? Yeah: http://www.nomachetejuggling.com/2011/11/11/the-star-wars-saga-suggested-viewing-order/

Episode I is a failure on every possible level. The acting, writing, directing, and special effects are all atrocious, and the movie is just plain boring. Luckily, George Lucas has done everyone a favor by making the content of Episode I completely irrelevant to the rest of the series. Seriously, think about it for a minute. Name as many things as you can that happen in Episode I and actually help flesh out the story in any subsequent episode.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link

As such, some people may want to watch Episode I after all. As some commenters have pointed out, there is still a place to watch Episode I with this order. The ideal place is after the "main saga" of IV, V, II, III, VI is complete. Not immediately after, but like "okay, Star Wars is over, but there's some other stuff you can watch that takes place in the same galaxy with some of the same people."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link

once you get past the silly comedy voice; this 70 minute (!) video analysis/takedown of Phantom Menace gets so much correct about why it doesn't work at all. really worth the watch:
http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/star-wars-episode-1-the-phantom-menace/

jamiesummerz, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, that and star trek are red letter's epic masterpieces.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link

I asked whether the movie was good, she was just like, yeah, it was pretty good

I rest my fucking case

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link

people did NOT want to admit TPM was bad

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link

why on earth would I spend 70 minutes watching a video take apart a movie if it isn't MST3K

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link

Tuomas' roommate has conclusively proved Shakey's point. Lock thread

, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link

that was also the standard response for why people went back for 2nd and 3rd sequel helpings; hoping it/they would get better.

thank you sir may I have another!

this is trauma victim shit

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link

RLM's Best of the Worst series is great too. It's basically the MST3K formula, but sometimes they analyze weird non-movies (instructional videos and such) that viewers send in.

jmm, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link

I recall nothing but negativity surrounding TPM, not limited to the parade of racial stereotypes

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link

If I cared more than I do about making Shakey look dumb, I would dig through TheForce.net forums from 1999-2000, but I don't.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

I can't get over this idea that nobody hated TPM until the internet told them, it's pretty hilarious.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link

I still maintain that Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher are the main reasons why the OG trilogy is better than the prequel trilogy; storywise they are comparable enjoyable nonsense and the outright ire over the prequels (particularly Episode I) is some ultra-nerdy "Losing My Edge"/"I was there" shit

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link

Οὖτις, are you here to shame trauma victims

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link

if everybody hates TPM so much why do so many people keep paying to watch it

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link

they do?

goole, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:05 (nine years ago) link

once you get past the silly comedy voice; this 70 minute (!) video analysis/takedown of Phantom Menace gets so much correct about why it doesn't work at all. really worth the watch:
http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/star-wars-episode-1-the-phantom-menace/

― jamiesummerz, Tuesday, December 2, 2014 11:40 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Really hate how this guy throws in jokes about kidnapping hookers though.

put your money where the maracas are (how's life), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link

Imagining SW w/out Han Solo is like imagining ILM without Geir

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link

DJP OTM. I said yesterday that none of these are terribly good movies, but none of them are terribly awful movies, either. I don't personally need to see TPM again but the other two prequels are perfectly serviceable. There's stuff in each of them that bugs me (even Empire has that weird and irresolvable duel timeline issue) but they're all fine and fun to put on in the background while doing other stuff on a Saturday afternoon.

Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link

I honestly believe the active awfulness of Jar-Jar in TPM informs his decision to be the deciding vote that destroys the Republic in ROTS. It may not have been an intentional story beat but it's the only thing that makes Jar-Jar the character's existence worth anything.

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link

the problem with the second and third prequels is always gonna be whether in your childhood you imagined young Darth Vader as Leif Garrett in purple lipstick

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link

they do?

did you miss all the ticket sales numbers croup cited

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link

Shakes, a lot of us went out of curiosity. Some of us made regrettable choices in friends.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link

I can't believe you're still arguing about this

Kooki-Wan Tanooki (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link

yep the character stuff in those RLM videos is pretty awful - but the actual film analysis is funny and otm

jamiesummerz, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link

this was TWO YEARS AGO

After its 3D re-release in 2012, the worldwide box office gross exceeded US$1 billion. Although in the intervening years the film had lost some of its rankings in the lists of highest-grossing films, the 3D re-release returned it to the worldwide all-time top ten for several months. In North America, its revenues overtook those of the original Star Wars as the saga's highest grossing film when not adjusting for inflation of ticket prices, and is currently the fifth-highest-grossing film in North America.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link

It is pretty much a given that Jake Lloyd and Hayden Christensen were terrible as Anakin Skywalker; neither could act, Lloyd wasn't cute enough to make up for his non-acting and Christensen had negative charisma with his costars, which made his performance worse.

There's enough enjoyable nonsense throughout the rest of the movies for me to still enjoy them despite the fact that their focal character is almost the worst thing in the world (Jar-Jar Binks is actually the worst thing in the world btw).

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link

I honestly believe the active awfulness of Jar-Jar in TPM informs his decision to be the deciding vote that destroys the Republic in ROTS.

Absolutely. Well, from a storytelling standpoint, it's really the failure of everyone around him to recognize Jar-Jar's awfulness that ultimately leads to the destruction of the Republic. He is the true Phantom Menace.

Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:19 (nine years ago) link

this was TWO YEARS AGO

http://bottledgoose.net/gifs/ROTJ-ForceLightning.gif

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:19 (nine years ago) link

Shakey your argument is so painfully obtuse

Kooki-Wan Tanooki (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link

Like are you really equating box office popularity with "typical ilxor and their circle friends thought it was good at the time"?

Kooki-Wan Tanooki (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

I wish the final shot after the anguished "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" had been Palpatine and Jar-Jar congratulating each other on their collusion to take down the empire, with Jar-Jar's reward being stewardship over Naboo and the subjugation/enslavement of its human-like population

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

"typical ilxor and their circle friends thought it was good at the time"?

I never said this.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

I was speaking of the moviegoing public in general, I guess that wasn't clear

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

link to the post where someone said TPM was a flop?

Kooki-Wan Tanooki (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link

multiple people in this thread argue that everyone agreed TPM was awful upon seeing it, which is just not borne out by the film's performance

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link

RLM character stuff was fine in the first couple. They'd reach way less people if they just went full film school crit for similar lengths without some absurd character gimmick interjections running alongside. They started to put too much focus on it in the end but whatever. Didn't bother me so much.

Evan, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:24 (nine years ago) link

Shakey I thought what people were pushing back was your assertion that it took at least a year for people to admit TPM was bad.

Evan, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link

when not adjusting for inflation of ticket prices

couple years ago was peak price premium for 3D glasses movies iirc and it's not a progressive ticket price increase to children's tickets, just a flat one

so basically a parent and two kids would be paying... oh hell I'm not going to run out the math

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link

it's not borne out by my personal experience either - which was that people saw it, and most came back saying some variation of "eh it was ok", which over time gradually morphed into "wow that was awful". For some people that was days for other people it was months for some it was years, but this idea that everyone acknowledged it was crap right out the gate is nonsense.

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link

I wish the final shot after the anguished "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" had been Palpatine and Jar-Jar congratulating each other on their collusion to take down the empire, with Jar-Jar's reward being stewardship over Naboo and the subjugation/enslavement of its human-like population

Thanks for getting me to imagine Jar-Jar in Imperial commander outfit staring wistfully outside window at Death Star

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:26 (nine years ago) link

it was critically panned

Kooki-Wan Tanooki (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link

critics hated the original trilogy too, I'm not talking about them

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link

now I'm just repeating myself

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link

Meesa gonna control the universe

i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link

I guess Ebert gave it a thumbs up? lol

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link

fwiw Kael on Empire:

By far the most imaginative part of the STAR WARS trilogy. This middle, bridging film is chained to an unresolved plot and doesn't have the leaping comic-book hedonism of the 1977 STAR WARS, but you can feel the love of movie magic that went into its cascading imagery. George Lucas kept the first movie hopping by cutting it into short, choppy scenes; Irvin Kershner, who directed this one, is a master of visual flow, and, joining his own kinks and obsessions to Lucas's, he gave EMPIRE a splendiferousness that may even have transcended what Lucas had in mind. When Han Solo (Harrison Ford) is frozen into sculpture-his face protruding from a bas-relief, the mouth open as if calling out in pain-the scene has a terrifying grandeur. The characters in this fairy-tale cliff-hanger show more depth of feeling than they had in the first film, and the music-John Williams' variations on the STAR WARS theme-seems to saturate and enrich the intensely clear images. Scenes linger in the mind: the light playing on Darth Vader's gleaming surfaces as this metal man, who's like a giant armored insect, fills the screen; Han Solo saving Luke's life on the ice planet Hoth by slashing open a snow camel and warming him inside; Luke's hand being lopped off, and his seemingly endless fall through space; Chewbacca, the Wookie, yowling in grief or in comic fear, his sounds so hyper-human you couldn't help laughing at them; the big-eared green elf Yoda, with shining ancient eyes, who pontifically instructs Luke in how to grow up wise-Yoda looks like a wonton and talks like a fortune cookie.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_%28film%29#Critical_response

Upon its release, contemporary critical opinion was positive. In his 1977 review, Roger Ebert of the Chicago Sun-Times called the film "... an out-of-body experience ...", compared its special effects to those of 2001: A Space Odyssey, and opined that the true strength of the film was its "... pure narrative".[120] Vincent Canby of The New York Times called the film "... the movie that's going to entertain a lot of contemporary folk who have a soft spot for the virtually ritualized manners of comic-book adventure ..." and "... the most elaborate, most expensive, most beautiful movie serial ever made."[121] A.D. Murphy of Variety described the film as "magnificent" and claimed George Lucas had succeeded in his attempt to create the "... biggest possible adventure fantasy ..." based on the serials and older action epics from his childhood.[122] Writing for The Washington Post, Gary Arnold gave the film a positive review, writing the film "... is a new classic in a rousing movie tradition: a space swashbuckler."[123]

Kooki-Wan Tanooki (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link

British press for the film was positive. Derek Malcolm of The Guardian concluded that the film "... plays enough games to satisfy the most sophisticated."[125] The Daily Telegraph '​s Adrian Berry said that Star Wars "... is the best such film since 2001 and in certain respects it is one of the most exciting ever made." He described the plot as "... unpretentious and pleasantly devoid of any 'message.'"[126] In his review for BBC, Matt Ford awarded the film five out of five stars and wrote, "Star Wars isn't the best film ever made, but it is universally loved."[127]

Kooki-Wan Tanooki (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link

I was going to say, claiming critics panned the 70s/80s films is some weird revisionist thinking.

I saw a scan earlier in the week of Samuel Delany reviewing the original Star Wars and he really enjoyed it, so it's not as if science fiction writers were panning it either.

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link

I didn't say universally panned

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:35 (nine years ago) link

Star Wars isn't the best film ever made, but it is universally loved.

lol quality criticism there mate

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:36 (nine years ago) link

I'm fairly shocked that people would have fond enough memories of a not-so-hot movie they saw as children that they would pay to see the 3-D theatrical rerelease of said film. I can't think of any other recent instances of people shelling out cash for lukewarm rehashes of subpar children's entertainment.

Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link

critics hated the original trilogy too,

claiming critics panned the 70s/80s films is some weird revisionist thinking.

I didn't say universally panned

masterclass in debating here.

Kelly Gang Carey and the Mantels (ledge), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link

either 100% of people loved it or hated it, there is no in between. love and light, hate and darkness.

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:38 (nine years ago) link

(Jar-Jar Binks is actually the worst thing in the world btw).

In so many ways! It's actually amazing.

the most painstaking, humorless people in the world (lukas), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:38 (nine years ago) link

better overview than wikipedia's: http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/originaltrilogyreception2.html

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:38 (nine years ago) link

Pauline Kael, New Yorker: "The only real inspiration involved in Star Wars was to set its sci-fi galaxy in the pop-culture past and to turn old-movie ineptness into conscious Pop Art."

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

Star Wars: 83%

Empire Strikes Back: 92%

Return of the Jedi: 76%

i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

I thought a brilliant structural idea in Empire was to build tension and release out of the malfunctioning hyperdrive in the Falcon. When it finally does take off at the end, it's a fantastic moment.

(Empire also has an advantage in being able to delegate some of the more difficult storytelling challenges (getting the story going, wrapping it up) to its two adjacent episodes.)

jmm, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link

Empire also has the advantage of Vader kicking ass

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link

lol

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link

he wipes out an entire officer's class because they can't park the star destroyer between the cones

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link

xp it seems like the dramatic device of technology-not-working-right hit-the-tv-again gets a lot of mileage in the original trilogy, now that I think about it.

Kooki-Wan Tanooki (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link

that's what Lucas doesn't get: the original trilogy worked in part because distant planets and shit are dirty.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link

Takes a lot of sweat, grease and trips to the tachi station to maintain a droid

Kooki-Wan Tanooki (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link

it's obvious Aunt Beru reeks of BO as she pours bug juice from her aqua Tupperware.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link

Using original boxoffice to claim people loved film originally. Claiming people turned on it over the years. Then using re-release box-office from 2012 to claim... what exactly? That the change of opinion is actually only two years old? Like, even your own facts argue against you.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link

it's kinda hard arguing against a bunch of random points thrown at me that often willfully misinterpret what I've posted, what can I say.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link

bring back the utility data

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:55 (nine years ago) link

I claimed people turned on it over the years *on the internet*, where the narrative that the prequels were awful has taken on a life of its own. But people still watch those prequels, they are not universally loathed.

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link

...

, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link

I hope the new movie contains a character that is an obvious Internet meme and the inclusion of said character causes the Internet to implode in a ball of self-regarding fury

basically I'm imagining Han and Leia saying "oh look, it's your old babysitter" and then nyancat flies into the room spouting an endless loop of music, Snarfing up everything all to be damned

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:01 (nine years ago) link

Well, yeah, there must be people who like them. The Transformer films are also internet-loathed, but people still go to them. I remember back in the day, a guy from my school was on Danish television as a star wars nerd, and when asked who his favorite character was he said 'jar jar binks. because he is funny.' And how disgusted I was. And it took a bit of time for me to turn on the film as well, so it must have been some time after release of I.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:02 (nine years ago) link

But I also remember an immediate release of dissapointment and bad reviews.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:02 (nine years ago) link

I thought a brilliant structural idea in Empire was to build tension and release out of the malfunctioning hyperdrive in the Falcon. When it finally does take off at the end, it's a fantastic moment.

Notable that Lucas was canny enough not to include, in any of the prequels, a POV shot of a ship entering hyperspace. (i.e., shot from inside the cockpit). The first time you ever see it, if you watch in order, is after the Falcon escapes from Tatooine.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:03 (nine years ago) link

FWIW, my wife unequivocally loves TPM.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:04 (nine years ago) link

when was the last time you spoke to her?

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:07 (nine years ago) link

May 23, 1999.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link

glad you guys finally have a thread to discuss the first 6 Star Wars movies

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:10 (nine years ago) link

Abject avoidance is the best kind of shit talk.

Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link

Oh I thought this was the 7th star wars shit talk thread

Evan, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link

I've run out of light sabre hilt theories and have to talk about something

Kooki-Wan Tanooki (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link

The first three threads were universally loved at the time, but over the years, opinion started to sour.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:18 (nine years ago) link

DJP's post reminded me of this, which has to be the most awkward, laboured Star Wars meme insertion possible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdMaZlWkK8o

jmm, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:19 (nine years ago) link

Still love Ahmed Best for lending his voice to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdS2kCUGvfo

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link

That's because the show isn't for nerds, it's for people who might know a nerd or have observed one in the wild, which is why they had to set up the bit by explaining who said "it's a trap" and where it comes from.

xpost

Evan, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:24 (nine years ago) link

I love The Phantom Menace and I've always loved The Phantom Menace

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link

That's some impressive self-gaslighting.

You Got It, Dude! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:50 (nine years ago) link

i consider TPM the best of the prequels (it's still fucking awful). Attack of the Clones is the real nadir, the exact moment being yoda leaping around with a lightsaber.

ryan, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:57 (nine years ago) link

third one was tolerable if seen as gay parable

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link

... How can the third one be seen as a gay parable?

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:02 (nine years ago) link

what if yoda was originally a huge hulking angry green dude but then sheev shrank him using evil sith magic, that would've been cool(er)

ok not really

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link

yeah explain gay parable interp plz

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link

Emperor Chicken Hawk openly lusting for Leif Garrett.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link

love that moment when he blasts SLJ out the window then looks at Anakin and mouth open goes AHHHHHHHHHH

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link

so... ROTS is tolerable if you think its main allegory is that gay people are evil predators?

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:07 (nine years ago) link

"From my point of view, heteros are evil!"

jmm, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:07 (nine years ago) link

yeah it has the tone of those anti-marijuana PSAs from the fifties

"'Straight' is a point of view, Anakin."

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link

goodthread

i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link

McDiamard does kill it in that scene.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:11 (nine years ago) link

wait, did I say The Phantom Menace? I meant the trailer, again

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/7554iFV.gif

a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link

I asked whether the movie was good, she was just like, yeah, it was pretty good

I rest my fucking case

― Οὖτις, 2. joulukuuta 2014 18:48 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

people did NOT want to admit TPM was bad

― Οὖτις, 2. joulukuuta 2014 18:48 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Er, I mentioned this story because I wanted to argue against what you claimed upthread. This is the quote from you:

it took YEARS for people to turn on the prequels and admit they were terrible

― Οὖτις, 1. joulukuuta 2014 18:50 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In the case of my flatmate, it didn't take her years to admit it was a bad movie, just a few days. And she was like the most fanatical SW fan I knew, all my other friends agreed TPM sucked immediately after they'd seen it.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link

people thinking it sucks and people not wanting to watch it are two separate things, too

never underestimate the ability of human beings to rewatch garbage just because it's related to their favorite series

(*goes to watch Law & Order: Cincinatti)

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link

fair enough Tuomas. Maybe Finns suffer less cognitive dissonance or something

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link

yeah let's not fight..
http://www.stomptokyo.com/sings/swholiday/images/hug2.jpg

piscesx, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link

this is how i remember the prequels coming out -
first one had so much hype coming in, was inevitably disappointing. darth maul and that song and that fight at the end were cool. the racism was weird. jar jar was always terrible. kid anakin was terrible.
attack of the clones was more fun and marginally better, the romance was absolutely godawful. CG generally kinda sloppy looking. Yoda flipping around spastically was a rare high point.
third was not great but much better than the first two, even with all the hamminess, still more entertaining/action-packed, less moments of talking and boredom

Nhex, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:29 (nine years ago) link

The element from the prequels that most regularly springs to my mind is Elan Sleazebaggano and his death sticks.

Rubies! And Emeralds! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link

How come every fucking scene in these movies involves someone standing in front of a window with a million fucking things happening in the background.

― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:39 (nine years ago) link

Maybe just a lot of windows, things going to be moving around. No big deal.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:40 (nine years ago) link

One of my fave (few) Gene Siskel stories was around the time of the SW re-releases, which happened to coincide with a brief re-release of The Godfather. Someone asked Siskel how the Godfather re-release print looked, and he said it was pretty much the same, except during the wedding scene they added a bunch of robots just walking around.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link

i consider TPM the best of the prequels (it's still fucking awfulmediocre).

hyperbolic you shall not be

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link

How come every fucking scene in these movies involves someone standing in front of a window with a million fucking things happening in the background.

this kind of action meaningful in its contrast to the kind of action other movies might include: characters moving from place to place, for instance, or reacting physically to the information they receive, or interacting casually and spontaneously with others. you might have to cut all that but no matter how small the empty green box is you can def fit a window in there, and after that, well, it's imagination time.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link

lol siskel

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link

TPM had my favourite moment in the prequels, which was the final lightsaber battle being interrupted by forcefields going up, and Qui-Gon using the lull to get in some quick meditation.

jmm, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link

^^^ this is definitely cool. that's the best prequel saber fight, right? don't really remember anything else except scissoring off christopher lee's head and the hysterical series nadir/apex when "general grievous" suddenly unfurls like 6 spinning lightsabers from panels in his shoulders or some shit.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link

I don't mind the effect. I thought it was effective in an Ep III scene in which this titanic battle of good vs evil rages while Coruscantians look for parking in rush hour traffic.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:57 (nine years ago) link

i think one of the worst part of the prequels is the CGI. it just doesn't convice, puppets have always been better

marcos, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:01 (nine years ago) link

this kind of action meaningful in its contrast to the kind of action other movies might include: characters moving from place to place, for instance, or reacting physically to the information they receive, or interacting casually and spontaneously with others. you might have to cut all that but no matter how small the empty green box is you can def fit a window in there, and after that, well, it's imagination time.

And you can do it all in post! Good ol' one-take Lucas.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:01 (nine years ago) link

same thing goes for all the glossy machinery, whoever mentioned the dirtiness of outer planets and space junk in eps 4-6 upthread was otm

marcos, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link

i think one of the worst part of the prequels is the CGI. it just doesn't convice, puppets have always been better

― marcos,

Always struck me as baffling that the Yoda puppet in ep I was so much shittier than the one in ep V.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:03 (nine years ago) link

For all the hate piled onto Jar-Jar, I don't think Watto gets complained about nearly enough

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:03 (nine years ago) link

Watto seems like the epitome of a labored but terribly conceived CGI character

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link

watto is fucking hideous

i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link

I mentioned the trailer and concept of VII to my brother-in-law last weekend, and he wanted to know if the original star trio were in the cast. I am envious of such ignorance in this era.

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:06 (nine years ago) link

Hey which one of you is this guy

http://www.clickhole.com/article/fanboy-loves-star-wars-so-much-he-plans-watch-forc-1514

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link

xp Yeah, but it's not like they got him from Jim Henson and oh shit it's a racist-looking puppet, better write some lines for him.

(I mean, it's not like anything explains anything about Watto other than 'No-one says no to George')

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link

I sort of got a kick out of mentioning the trailer in the office breakroom and watching the faces of a handful of male 30-something law firm associates all light up at once

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link

one of the reasons I don't want to watch TPM with my daughter is that I am not looking forward to explaining how every alien is a racist caricature

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link

I'm trying to think what else I liked in the prequels, and the pod race sequence is basically it. CG Ben-Hur was the only real idea these movies had.

jmm, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link

The pod race was too goddamn long.

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:38 (nine years ago) link

The Darth Maul fight was basically out of a HK Wuxia movie and that was my favorite part of the prequels, I think

, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link

My favorite Star Wars-related cultural products of late are the Uncut fan remakes and the grindhouse version of ANH.

Rubies! And Emeralds! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:41 (nine years ago) link

same thing goes for all the glossy machinery, whoever mentioned the dirtiness of outer planets and space junk in eps 4-6 upthread was otm

― marcos, Tuesday, December 2, 2014 4:02 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

Thank you my good man *dons flowing Jedi robe*

, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link

this is semi-intentional, isn't it? ie the "golden age" of the Republic giving way to the grimy oppressive nature of the Empire?

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link

man a lot of rust accumulates in 18 years

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link

you should see what happens to Boston roads over the course of one winter

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link

It's a much-discussed aspect of the original trilogy, the "used future"

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link

Maybe late-'90s CGI tech just wasn't refined enough to create believable rust and grime.

Rubies! And Emeralds! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link

I don't think it was necessarily solely supposed to be a result of the Empire, although that reading certainly makes more sense after the shininess of the prequels. But it makes particular sense that a shitty backwater like tatooine would have gunked up droids and speeders, or that the rebels' ships and equipment wouldn't be pristine.

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:51 (nine years ago) link

but Aunt Beru has the latest Tupperware!

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:55 (nine years ago) link

Well she's a rep, hosts parties for her village and whatnot

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link

ffs, I went the last 37 years thinking her name was Veru.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link

Uncle Owen thought she was a Sand Person so don't worry.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link

As a kid I thought he was Uncle Lowen

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link

Liam Neeson did a modicum of acting in TPM compared to that vengeance shit he is now beloved for.

Who will do the most acting in The Force Wakes Up?

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link

Neeson's hair did the acting. Neeson was elsewhere.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link

this is semi-intentional, isn't it? ie the "golden age" of the Republic giving way to the grimy oppressive nature of the Empire?

― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, December 2, 2014 3:42 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

man a lot of rust accumulates in 18 years

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, December 2, 2014 3:47 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, I tried to make this point upthread -- the whole point of the Star Wars universe is that it's old and has this history, which Episodes I - III throw away by assuming the thousands of years of grit and grime and used spaceships actually were just an effect of the Empire happening

maybe dirt effects on computer animated characters were hard so Lucas was like "fuck it, make it all look brand new"

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link

Even that Darth Maul fight scene, while cool, is sort of dramatically flawed in pitting two good guys against one bad guy (a problem semi-solved by the neat forcefield door gimmick) and by overuse of the can't-reach-lightsaber/trying-not-to-fall-down-massive-spaceshaft devices from the first trilogy, like you can't have that shit more than once in a scene

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link

like the goddamn death star was totally new construction and even it didn't seem pristine. more so in ROTJ -- it's not yet finished and you see the scaffolding and open construction. everything in Episodes I - III was in perfect condition, even on old worlds, as if no one is tearing down or building anything and the story happens in this static universe

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:11 (nine years ago) link

Hurting "Episode" 2, Jedi Fight Choreographer

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link

I did chuckle when on the commentary track for the last prequel Lucas explained the 20-year construction of the Death Star w/a shrug: "Well, they had union trouble. Even an Empire has construction and union delays."

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link

I mean it's going to take at least 20 years to complete the Second Ave Subway so it doesn't seem that outrageous for a Death Star

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:18 (nine years ago) link

They barely even have an Empire yet and they're already thinking about Death Stars.

jmm, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:18 (nine years ago) link

Really they couldn't do anything until they had more utility data.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:19 (nine years ago) link

it's not really an ILX Star Wars thread until Ned and I run a joke into the ground

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link

Rather.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link

it's not running a joke into the ground if you lacked utility data

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:30 (nine years ago) link

Utilty data reminds me of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftU5GfORvH8

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:32 (nine years ago) link

this is semi-intentional, isn't it? ie the "golden age" of the Republic giving way to the grimy oppressive nature of the Empire?

― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, December 2, 2014 4:42 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yeah you can do a little retconning and get there

Cloud City is meant to be the symbol of opulence I think in the trilogies but by today's standards it comes off as lol 70's

I was thinking more of the modular nature of the tech

Like tons of little extraneous things hanging off of everything, even the Star Destroyers, all this great detail of piping and tubing etched into the interstices

Like the X-Wing being so modular that it needs an astromech droid to set in the back and then the droid pops out and fixes shit while in battle!

Like compare the X-wing or even the TIE Fighter to the fucking Naboo starfighter that looks like it was carved from a solid piece of carbonite

, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link

mon cal cruisers were a bit more organic looking /nerdery

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link

Yeah but there was backstory behind that

, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:43 (nine years ago) link

They grew those fucking ships in an ocean!

, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:43 (nine years ago) link

<3 u 龜

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link

Have also heard a lot of people make car analogies in re late 70s/early 80s vs late 90s/early 00s -- the sleekness and curviness of the prequel tech matches this, as does the fact that shit in the original trilogy had lots of parts and people were always fixing things, whereas no one works on their own cars anymore.

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/Gd6xbgV.jpg

This ship is cool as hell. Probably my favorite starship

, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link

although there's the whole soapbox derby build-a-pod thing

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link

Like compare the X-wing or even the TIE Fighter to the fucking Naboo starfighter that looks like it was carved from a solid piece of carbonite

when it debuted Threepio said, "Ohhh! They've encased it in carbonite!"

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link

that's one ship with a bunch others docked to the back, right? xxp
I concur

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:46 (nine years ago) link

that thundercats thing will never not crack me up for some reason

a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:47 (nine years ago) link

No that's one ship

It's the Nebulon B Escort Frigate

, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:47 (nine years ago) link

is Star Wars set in the future or the past? i've still no idea. if it's 'a long time ago..' then how is it also 'the future'?

piscesx, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:47 (nine years ago) link

Relativity

jmm, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:49 (nine years ago) link

This thread is slowly working through everything already covered in the Red Letter Media series. Those who haven't should watch it, even if they find the "character" of Mr Plinkett(?) annoying.

Evan, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:50 (nine years ago) link

he's ready..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBEdgPFoBjY

piscesx, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:51 (nine years ago) link

I stand corrected xxxp

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link

Star Wars is _futuristic_ but it happened a long time ago

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link

i have a coworker who says she likes the prequels better than the original

i threw her out a window, she's better now

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:53 (nine years ago) link

Since when was THIS

http://i.imgur.com/QTBbDzk.jpg

Cooler than THIS?

http://i.imgur.com/zmCjNLP.jpg

, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link

#thingsonly70skidsunderstand

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link

#thingsonly4ABYkidsunderstand

, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:00 (nine years ago) link

soccerball droid confuses me

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:01 (nine years ago) link

I know you guys expended all your engineering/intellectual energy on the lightsaber design but seriously how does that robot work it makes no sense

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link

Inspired by nature.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/files/2012/10/Dung-beetle.jpg

jmm, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:10 (nine years ago) link

Who controls the Twin Pod? What if the pilots disagree on where they should go?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:11 (nine years ago) link

haha don't get me started about that

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:12 (nine years ago) link

so a la the dung beetle, the top part is propelling the bottom soccer ball part? assuming that's even possible (since the top part does not appear to have any appendages or attachments to move the soccer ball part with) what would be the point of that?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:14 (nine years ago) link

I'm assuming that there's a vertical disk that is kept static that the head sits on top of, and it spins the half-balls each side?

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link

i'll be honest, the soccerball droid gave me a fleeting moment of ~the phear~

aaaahh more cutesy bullshit droids nooo

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link

I don't mean to say that I'm right of course, just "If I had to build something like that, and I knew anything about building robots"

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link

take 1 soccerball
1 saucepan lid
magnets

go

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:23 (nine years ago) link

The entire series starts with cutesy bullshit droids, they're kind of its thing.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:23 (nine years ago) link

I take it you are not an engineer by day xp

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:24 (nine years ago) link

yeah Andrew I can't see how it would work without an axle connecting the upper and lower halves

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:24 (nine years ago) link

i know but

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:24 (nine years ago) link

1 rollers moving in opposite direction of travel
2 gyroscope in ball

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:26 (nine years ago) link

I don't think the ball is part of the droid fwiw

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:32 (nine years ago) link

hurting you're all right but that post makes me want to kick you through a fishtank

goole, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:34 (nine years ago) link

GO PLAY OUTSIDE ALL OF YOU

goole, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:35 (nine years ago) link

occurred to me it could be a lil droid on top of a ball, sure

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:35 (nine years ago) link

MacGyver never needed no gyroscope

Evan, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:36 (nine years ago) link

that's what I was thinking, but then how does the droid stay on top like that. I mean it looks like its using it as a method of propulsion, but if it can just float on top of the ball and direct its motion well why have a ball at all

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:37 (nine years ago) link

do they even have soccer in the future/past

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:41 (nine years ago) link

goole OTM

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:45 (nine years ago) link

Yes, the future past does not have soccer anymore yet, no.

Evan, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:46 (nine years ago) link

how do u even soccer in star wars

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:48 (nine years ago) link

gyroscopes?

Evan, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:49 (nine years ago) link

in the future they call it football

a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:50 (nine years ago) link

This thread is slowly working through everything already covered in the Red Letter Media series.

tbf we've done all this stuff in the crimes of george lucas thread many times over

Number None, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:54 (nine years ago) link

We need to cycle through it every year like the Torah

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 00:15 (nine years ago) link

oh I'm not suggesting we stop

Number None, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 00:16 (nine years ago) link

this is our trade federation

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 00:23 (nine years ago) link

It's like poetry

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 00:27 (nine years ago) link

it's always may the fourth somewhere

a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 00:30 (nine years ago) link

We are no match for droidekas.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 00:33 (nine years ago) link

ha that's amazing

piscesx, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 00:45 (nine years ago) link

of all the things posted on this thread, people not understanding how something could have a rolling base and relatively stationary top in a robot form made me the most exasperated

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 00:53 (nine years ago) link

It's basically a hipster unicyclist droid.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 00:59 (nine years ago) link

Especially in a series full of hovering droids and vehicles which do not appear to be Force-controlled xp

nashwan, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 00:59 (nine years ago) link

haha yes, there is faster than light travel, vehicles and robots that hover around, but one plausible yet impractical balance-on-a-ball thing that looks funny, dunno, man

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 01:01 (nine years ago) link

Maybe it's a pinata droid and the base is full of delicious space candy.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 01:02 (nine years ago) link

I'm watching "Lost" for the first time because of this trailer. I suppose we are in for a more documentary-style Star Wars?

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 01:16 (nine years ago) link

Kind of crazy that after 6 movies no one has yet explained what lightsabers are or how they are made in any of them.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 01:18 (nine years ago) link

Anyone watched this Ralph McQuarrie doc? It looks pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlcjTqxzWEk

jmm, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 01:18 (nine years ago) link

Episode Eight: The Saga of Sabermetrics

a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 01:33 (nine years ago) link

I thought of something

What if the vehicles we saw in the prequels were almost all atmosphere- and space-capable vehicles, so they had to have more aerodynamic exteriors and no stuff sticking off the outside like the Millenium Falcon had?

The x-wings are the multi-purpose tool of the rebellion so they have to be aerodynamic and work in both but are built less flashy because the rebels are broke. Other ships are repurposed transports or stuff like star destroyers that are meant to always be in space.

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 01:51 (nine years ago) link

(No friction in space travel, shields help against friction on the ground)

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 01:52 (nine years ago) link

M. Falcon seemed to fly okay around cloud city, kibblety bits and all.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 03:00 (nine years ago) link

not understanding how something could have a rolling base and relatively stationary top in a robot form made me the most exasperated

to be clear my issue is primarily with how the two parts are attached, cuz it doesnt look like there's an axle, it looks like the top part is just balanced on the bottom.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 03:10 (nine years ago) link

If its using repulsor lift (lol) then why bother with the ball

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 03:22 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/xa4Tkkd.png

           (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 03:29 (nine years ago) link

The new droid that accompanies Daisy Ridley and John Boyega’s characters on their journey through JJ Abrams' Star Wars: The Force Awakens is basically a ball with a small R2-D2 styled head. Inside the body of the droid, there is a weight on a pole. The weight is heavier than the head, which is constructed out of a light metal, allowing the head to always remain upright as the body rolls on the ground. The artist, Jason Ward, separated the sphere, as the official Lucasfilm concepts did, to show how the mechanisms work. However, the new droid does not do that in the film. An abundance of gadgets can be stored inside the droid, including many mechanisms and defenses. To allow the droid to operate functionally on screen as a puppet, the ball is allowed to role on two tracks that are either obscured or digitally removed.

           (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 03:30 (nine years ago) link

There ya go

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 03:32 (nine years ago) link

What's this droid's function supposed to be? It seems like it might work as an off-road one of these: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/MSE-6-series_repair_droid

jmm, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 03:39 (nine years ago) link

imagine the top is a hat, with an inside rim filled with ball bearings

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 03:44 (nine years ago) link

where does the hamster go

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 03:45 (nine years ago) link

up yr butt

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 03:46 (nine years ago) link

Lol

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 03:50 (nine years ago) link

rude

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 04:02 (nine years ago) link

...so wait, was it a predator ship or

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 04:05 (nine years ago) link

http://m.imgur.com/a/kbOh0

schwantz, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 05:33 (nine years ago) link

i like the chainsaw

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 05:42 (nine years ago) link

i kinda wanna rewatch the prequels now

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 06:48 (nine years ago) link

they will be good this time

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 06:55 (nine years ago) link

+ had no idea there was a ton of leaked concept art?? incl like 10x the Shit To Ponder than the trailer? this thread should have 15,000 more posts

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 06:55 (nine years ago) link

if anything i think JJ's gonna play things too carefully for fear of resembling the prequels and the universe is gonna be lacking in all the wonky WTF shit from the originals like that spaceship posted upthread (also my favorite thing ever as a kid)

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 07:02 (nine years ago) link

I wonder how the purchase will affect Star Wars 1313, still in development.

― the max in the high castle (kingfish), Thursday, November 8, 2012 6:30 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Whelp, so much for that

Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 07:13 (nine years ago) link

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me5m8hIVWv1rani6a.gif

WOW CAN'T WAIT FOR MORE PENETRATING INSIGHTS FROM MORBS AND SHAKEY

― Diddley Hollyberry (Phil D.), Friday, May 2, 2014 11:48 AM (7 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 07:15 (nine years ago) link

I've come to grips (lol) with the new light saber hilt by treating it as a muzzle brake.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle_brake

bollnality of weevil (brownie), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 13:36 (nine years ago) link

i feel like i should be uploading the USS Enterprise blueprints i once owned, but wrong thread

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 13:42 (nine years ago) link

Au contraire. There's no better way to troll Star Wars fans than with Star Trek stuff, e.g.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7gB0uizWgbI/UAZ2QpA-l-I/AAAAAAAAA84/cefRQ2F23z4/s1600/star-wars-600.png

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 13:55 (nine years ago) link

+ had no idea there was a ton of leaked concept art?? incl like 10x the Shit To Ponder than the trailer? this thread should have 15,000 more posts

Okay, now I'm excited. This is really nice art.

jmm, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 14:38 (nine years ago) link

wait what art

gbx, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:17 (nine years ago) link

FWIW occurred to me that the theory that a lightsaber could just slice through the cylinder on the hilt is very silly -- the handle/cylinder has to be "lightsaber proof" or else it wouldn't be able to contain the lightsaber.

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:27 (nine years ago) link

No

That's likes saying a gun is bulletproof and can't be injured by a bullet fired at it

, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link

I'm gonna have to revoke your nerd credentials

, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link

of course the handle is lightsaber proof

i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:33 (nine years ago) link

if the handle is light saber proof then they should make a suit of armor out of that material

bollnality of weevil (brownie), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link

Properties of matter in the Star Wars universe: solid, liquid, gas, Force, lightsaber, lightsaber handle.

Rubies! And Emeralds! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link

Actually I guess it could be like the energy or whatever is focused through lenses and only achieves full strength as it leaves the handle.

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:37 (nine years ago) link

did you know that planes are missle-proof and tanks are artillery-proof

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link

so obviously not the same thing god

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link

Clowning Hurting talk

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link

how many midichlorians can dance on the head of a pin?

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link

space, that's where I'm a viking.

how's life, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link

are flamethrower barrels flameproof?

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link

Checked the concept art. So much T&O.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link

Stormtroopers in trailer are very T, not sure if that was already pointed out

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link

Definition of T&O please?

jmm, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link

idgi, weren't stormtroopers and every vestige of the Empire destroyed when the Jedi Returned? or am I being naive?

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link

yeah the lightsaber light beam is collimated so the photon density drops quickly away from the beam center. and if it uses a lens that is some sweet material that isn't destroyed by the lightsaber, that material would be transparent to lightsaber and would be useless as armor.

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link

killing the emperor and blowing up their giant space weapon (mark II) doesn't mean the rest of the apparatus just disappeared into thin air?

I'd imagine there'd be tons of surplus armor, guns, and ships to sell to local police departments, too.

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link

Lightsabers use a jewel xp

, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link

guess I'm sayin 'not destroyed by lightsaber' /= 'useful as armor against lightsaber'. you need a material that reflects lightsaber. so the armor would have to be made of whatever the fuck is reflecting the lightsaber beam at the tip.

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link

xp does the jewel focus the beam? or is the jewel just the source of all of the lightsaber photons?

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link

Lightsabers use a jewel xp

― 龜, Wednesday, December 3, 2014 11:00 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Nah they were supposed to get saphire but the supplier couldn't produce so they went with a specialized glass

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link

Definition of T&O please?

― jmm, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:56 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tits & oss

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link

from here, it sounds like the crystal is the source of the lightsaber photons. but the jedi has to supply energy to the crystal via Force. I'd guess that Force has to be what reflects the beam at the end or even guides the beam to form a blade. so you'd need armor made of Force.

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link

WELL THEN MAYBE THE FORCE CAN PROTECT HIS HANDS TOO DUH

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link

yes, that is very true and equivalent to what i am saying pls pay attn ty

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link

idgi, weren't stormtroopers and every vestige of the Empire destroyed when the Jedi Returned? or am I being naive?

― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:57 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dunno, but the concept art of the repurposed AT-AT is cool as hell:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CY_cruBQXN4/VD4GoA_jwWI/AAAAAAAAFHk/BzJNbV4B2VA/s1600/534b11c37959a2bb815f7f9664cf7df1.jpg

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link

why not make everything out of force geez

Scrumptuous Morsels For Your Tummy! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link

One of my favorite conceits of Star Wars is the sort of indefinite nature of the use of Force in combat, like how they seem to have to strain a lot to make the lightsaber come to them but then sometimes they can just fire themselves up into the air like nothing. There seems to be some sort of limitation placed on its use by mental energy and focus but it's not exactly clear, but it seems sort of believable, like how a basketball player might have "hot" moments.

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link

everything is made out of force, innit? "The force is an energy field created by all living things, it surrounds us, it penetrates us, it binds the galaxy together" xp

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link

Man, I can out-nerd all you nerf-herders: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cortosis

Cortosis ore was a very rare, brittle, fibrous material whose conductive properties caused lightsabers to temporarily short out upon contact. This effect made cortosis a useful material for anti-lightsaber melee weapons, though with repeated strikes, a lightsaber could still cut through it. Cortosis, due to its energy resistant properties, was also resistant to blaster fire.

. . . Cortosis ore was used extensively in shadowtrooper armor, as well as the C-B3 cortosis battle droids during the Clone Wars, and the Force-using group known as the Jensaarai. The cortosis used for this armor was smuggled out from Bespin's Cloud City. The walls of the Imperial Palace were also lined with cortosis ore. It was also used to strengthen starfighter and capital ship hulls, and was woven into body armor.

Cortosis was expensive to mine because it was so rare and it had to be absolutely refined. Pure, unrefined, cortosis ore was for unexplained reasons, energized, killing anyone who touched it with his/her bare skin, even Hutts, who had energy resistant enzymes in their sweat. Miners had to have filtering equipment, or else the cortosis particles would accumulate in their systems, causing hair loss, sickness, and eventually death. The substance was energy resistant, meaning energy tools (such as plasma torches) were virtually useless. The brute force of hydraulic jacks were used to mine it, though it quickly wore the head of the jack to uselessness and its dust would clog the pistons. Pockets of highly-combustible lethane gas often formed near cortosis deposits.[1]

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link

This cortosis stuff does not sound so realistic

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link

anyone can quote Wookiepedia Phil. Look

Teloberry bushes were plants native to Misnor. They were eaten by chiilaks.

Number None, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link

Chiilaks, dude.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link

this shit is just so fuckin funny

marcos, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link

ah yes lethane gas, adjacent to unobtainium on the periodic table iirc

anonanon, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link

at least they put SOME minimal effort into "lethane gas", as opposed to NOTREALium

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link

I kind of want to know how the Falcon flies like that within gravity, while we're at it, although I feel I am inadequate in both my flight dynamics and star wars knowledge to properly debate this

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link

dunno, but the concept art of the repurposed AT-AT is cool as hell:

Ha, that could be a callback to the repurposed Tauntaun.

jmm, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:31 (nine years ago) link

it's covered in hoverboards iirc xp

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:31 (nine years ago) link

turns out the ball droid is a McQuarrie concept too btw

“I think Artoo was just described as a small robot. I thought of him as running on a giant ball bearing — just a sphere, a circle, wheel-like. He had gyros so he could go in any direction on this ball.”

Number None, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link

that's so cool.

how's life, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link

I liked Lisanti's description of R2 in the Grantland piece as a "squealing bipedal diaper genie"

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link

tried to rewrite "Moses Supposes" from Singin' in the Rain for cortosis, gave up

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link

with gyros in my balls, i could go in any direction

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link

My ball gyros keep them in the same position/direction no matter which way I turn.

Evan, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link

Super painful if I turn too fast.

Scrumptuous Morsels For Your Tummy! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link

white sauce joke

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:19 (nine years ago) link

how did no one make the "they should make the whole plane out of the stuff they use to make the black box" joke in Hurting/SaberGate

a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link

prob bc it wouldn't be funny

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link

they should make all of ilx out of hurting's posts

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:35 (nine years ago) link

xp oh it would've been hilarious

a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:35 (nine years ago) link

This effect made cortosis a useful material for anti-lightsaber melee weapons, though with repeated strikes, a lightsaber could still cut through it.

i can only imagine that looking like this:

http://media1.giphy.com/media/yowyM4bfXdCOA/giphy.gif

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link

Nixon head is essential.

Evan, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 18:11 (nine years ago) link

lol

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link

who is playing nixon head in ep 7

Scrumptuous Morsels For Your Tummy! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link

greg grunberg

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 18:19 (nine years ago) link

harry shearer natch

a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link

ok what bothers me about the lightsaber hilt now is if there's lightsaber beam underneath the metal tube bits which would still protect the wielder if someone else strikes through it, why don't they encase the entire hilt with that metal material? it would break pretty easily yeah but until that happens it would protect the wielder from the beams and allow them to regain that lost mobility that comes from constantly worrying if you're going to pierce yourself if you make a single mistake

if anyone who knows me or just anyone who like googles me for any reason finds this post please know that this is not representative of who i am as a person, i'm a really cool guy who does cool things and i have a lot to offer

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link

Forest is full of bugs. Lightsaber hilt is a bug zapper. Solved.

Gauranteed Love Reelationship Solution (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:46 (nine years ago) link

The hilt can also be used for offense this way. Everybody is so concerned about this Jedi hurting itself like it is a goddamn baby.

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:53 (nine years ago) link

yeah prob didn't become a dark jedi by being clumsy with swords

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link

Chewie has a bionic arm now too according to concept art.

It's almost like bionic arms are a status symbol.

jmm, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:57 (nine years ago) link

Everybody is so concerned about this Jedi hurting itself like it is a goddamn baby. youngling

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link

lol

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link

it'd be funny if the bionic chewie arm just gesticulated awkwardly and wildly like a regular wookie arm

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link

what's the old joke "doc, that's amazing news, I couldn't play the piano at all before the accident"

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link

what if chewie accidentally rips his own dick off with his bionic arm. he should have mittens.

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link

what's the old joke "doc, that's amazing news, I couldn't play the piano at all before the accident"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFeqoE0CcAAN6M7.jpg

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link

what if chewie accidentally rips his own dick off with his bionic arm. he should have mittens.

― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, December 3, 2014 3:05 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So he can softly rip his own dick off? How would this help?

Evan, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:21 (nine years ago) link

Have you ever tried to grip a wookie's dick with mittens?

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:24 (nine years ago) link

haha my first thought was
http://static.gamesradar.com/images/totalfilm/o/oveur.jpg

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:26 (nine years ago) link

I love you canon.

However, Maul managed to survive his defeat at the hands of Kenobi. Through his hate and will to live, as well as his hatred against Kenobi, he reached out with the Force and grabbed an air vent.[8]

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120518041057/starwars/images/5/57/DarthScorpionKing-SWE.png

jmm, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:26 (nine years ago) link

The hilt can also be used for offense this way.

can't really see that happening tbh w/o having the opposite end of the hilt up to yr throat or something, or having your opponent in a weird position where the blade wouldn't hit them first anyway

this is the worst movie ever

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:26 (nine years ago) link

I had this idea that ILX should "precover" Ep 7 by building an entire film around the trailer scenes

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:28 (nine years ago) link

directed by lou reed

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link

No one ever dies in the Star Wars extended universe, do they? They always manage to claw back out of the Sarlacc somehow.

jmm, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link

xxxp That Darth Maul thing was an entire story arc on the Clone Wars cartoon, where he was rescued by his brother -- I swear to god I am not making this up -- Savage Oppress*, and eventually given a regular pair of mechanical legs.

* This name was conceived by whichever one of Lucas's two daughters was a writer for the show. The younger one.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:32 (nine years ago) link

Yeah but the plot of the movie is pretty obvious:

-A stormtrooper wakes up in the desert after a heavy night of drinking.
-Some X-wings take some now unemployed rebel soldiers wake-boarding
-Some clumsy nerd kills himself with his stupid fucking light saber hilt in the woods somewhere. Nobody was anywhere near him and his body is never found. Good riddance.

Evan, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link

BTW it's pronounced FRONKensteen SaVAJE oPRESS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7hBZNsPnyg

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link

what if darth maul accidentally rips his own dick off with his mechanical legs. he should have short pants with a supportive netting interior.

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:34 (nine years ago) link

I don't think he has a dick anymore. Maybe his species never had dicks. hard to tell.

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:36 (nine years ago) link

I don't think people you see at burning man classify as a separate "species"

Evan, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:39 (nine years ago) link

-A stormtrooper wakes up in the desert after a heavy night of drinking.

Cut to an uber taking the other stormtroopers home, when one suddenly realizes "where's Mike?"

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:39 (nine years ago) link

(Indiana Jones enters)

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link

*"where's Jango 1002993?"

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link

rest of the film is about the awesome roadtrip they have trying to find Mike and bring him home

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:42 (nine years ago) link

#1 hope about Boyega trooper is JJ has chosen to totally ignore prequel canon

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:42 (nine years ago) link

(storm trooper enters Indiana Jones)

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link

midichlorians shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link

but they have to get to him before his uptight girlfriend finds out what he's been up to *gf rides off on landspeeder*

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link

xxp but stormtroopers weren't Fett clones by the time of the original trilogy! Remember, Lucas dubbed over Boba Fett's voice with Temuera Morrison's, but *not* the stormtrooper voices.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:46 (nine years ago) link

They should reference midichlorians as a discredited theory a la luminiferous ether.

jmm, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:46 (nine years ago) link

Star Wars fan fiction can wiggle out of anything Lucas tries to do to ruin it.

Evan, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link

Wait wait wait. So Darth Maul's actual last name is Oppress? That's like a Sith lord choosing to call himself Darth Vader when his real name is Anakin Hopecrusher.

Gauranteed Love Reelationship Solution (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:01 (nine years ago) link

maybe 'maul' is savage oppress' maiden name

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:03 (nine years ago) link

what the hell is that comic

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:03 (nine years ago) link

hey lets not be normative maybe oppress is maul's maiden name

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link

maulopress

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link

he had been busy designing his own custom force-powered coffee maker until he was seduced by the dark roast

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:06 (nine years ago) link

Red Letter Media on General Grievous

"Also on this ship is Commander Nefarious, Captain I'm-A-Bad-Guy, and Admiral Bone-to-Pick. But they don't mention them."

Evan, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:07 (nine years ago) link

I feel like Mrs. Oppress was pretty irresponsible in choosing the name of at least one of her children. Like, Oppress is a pretty heavy name to be saddled with already, but naming the kid Savage just gives him no chance at all. Name him Tim and there's at least the chance that he'll go to college or become something other than a violent despot.

But what do I know, maybe Maul's actual first name is Tim.

Gauranteed Love Reelationship Solution (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:09 (nine years ago) link

That comic has a bit of a Chick tract tone.

jmm, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link

Gary Maul

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link

Garth

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link

"Darth" was just a mean playground nickname that stuck

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link

Ollie Oppress

Gauranteed Love Reelationship Solution (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link

Darth Richard Branson

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link

from Veergen Atloontic

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:14 (nine years ago) link

http://theinfosphere.org/images/thumb/3/3d/Darths.png/225px-Darths.png

"Darth Stroyer, Darth Trocious, Darth Sploder, Darth Urderer, and Darth Ithead!"

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link

Gary Maul

― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, December 3, 2014 4:11 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://photos.costume-works.com/full/darth_maul_starwars1.png

Evan, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link

wtf is a 'vader' anyway

Gauranteed Love Reelationship Solution (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link

go way 'vadin

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link

vater = german for father, come on noob

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:24 (nine years ago) link

vādere: to go

I guess a vader is a goer, like in Monty Python.

jmm, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link

ernest was a vader

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link

Oh wait. In keeping with standard Sith lord naming conventions: Darth (In)Vader.

Gauranteed Love Reelationship Solution (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:28 (nine years ago) link

So, Padme, does she go, eh? Go? Know what I mean?

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:28 (nine years ago) link

Darth Saulter

Gauranteed Love Reelationship Solution (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:29 (nine years ago) link

Darth Buser

Gauranteed Love Reelationship Solution (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:29 (nine years ago) link

Darth Busey

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:30 (nine years ago) link

Busey as Sarlaac, plz

Gauranteed Love Reelationship Solution (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link

Do Luke Skywalken please

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:34 (nine years ago) link

"I'm your sister"
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
"I KNOW!"

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:35 (nine years ago) link

o god

Gauranteed Love Reelationship Solution (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:38 (nine years ago) link

Star Wars 7 shit take

Gauranteed Love Reelationship Solution (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link

the dagobah cistern

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:41 (nine years ago) link

rookie question: is darth maul's red face supposed to be the result of a hideous accident, or...does he wake up every day and paint his face?

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link

He doesn't paint it every day. Usually just a little touch-up in the mornings and then a shower and a repaint every third day or so.

Gauranteed Love Reelationship Solution (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:55 (nine years ago) link

Maul, the Dathomirian[3] Zabrak male[1] who would become the feared Darth Maul, was born on Dathomir[8] to Kycina, a Human Nightsister of Mother Talzin's coven and a Zabrak father who, by tradition, was murdered after Maul's conception.[1] By birth, Maul was a Nightbrother;[1] a clan of male Zabraks from Dathomir who served as warriors and slaves of the dominant Nightsisters.[13] Like the rest of his kin, Maul was subjected, shortly after birth, to an initiation ritual during which he was immersed in a "magic" oily bath, and covered head to toe in black and red tattoos.[1] Later stripped of his black Nightbrother markings, Maul was left solely red-skinned.[19] Agonizing Sith tattoos were applied personally by Darth Sidious in an attempt to cleanse Maul's mind[19] as well as demonstrating Maul's complete dedication to the dark side.[2]

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

I'd like to see the full range of facepainting options Maul tried out before he settled on one. Although I guess I'm assuming he actually did settle on one. Maybe the face we saw was just the one he chose for that day's outing.

Gauranteed Love Reelationship Solution (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/197/2/e/darth_maul_makeup___outline_by_danahopkins-d7r0jzj.jpg

"Sorry boss, I overslept"

Evan, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link

xxpost That is such gibberish.

Gauranteed Love Reelationship Solution (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link

how dare you. that is canon

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link

he was tattooed twice lol

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link

Tattooed, untattooed, and then retattooed.

Gauranteed Love Reelationship Solution (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link

Presumably with the same tattoos.

Gauranteed Love Reelationship Solution (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link

Reading a great new unauthorized biography right now: "A Sidious Man"

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link

did darth sidious personally apply the horns with gorilla glue as well, or was he born with them?

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:04 (nine years ago) link

Wonder if there's a contradiction in the canon here. The red and black tattoos seem to be a generic Sith thing: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_tattoo

jmm, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:06 (nine years ago) link

7 minutes? What's with the massive lull in posting all of a sudden?

Evan, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link

I remember going to my first comic book convention as a wee lad ( a "youngling"?) and
wandering into the wrong room. Lo! I encountered Star Trek "filksinging". Shudder. Is there a SW
equivalent?

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link

srs question - is "filk" really just a Trek thing? I thought it was more generic than that.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link

what is happening

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link

avoiding any momentum killing lulls itt

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link

new SW coming out soon, 'sode 7 - harrison ford is in it, reportedly broke his femur or something during filming, jj abrams directing, he is universally loved and will do a great job

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link

sorry if any of that has been covered upthread i haven't read it yet

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link

it's mostly banter about whether or not JJ will bring back the OG star wars' heart and soul, i.e. incest

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link

xp Yeah, you replace the word Trek with Wars - filk is a fandom-wide curse.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link

Not sure about any of that but what are your feelings about hilts.

Hilt C/D?

Evan, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:36 (nine years ago) link

fan theory: the hilt is for slicing onions

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:36 (nine years ago) link

'sode 9 should be nothing but siblings making out

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link

Slicing and caramelising!

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link

plus flashback scenes of darth maul getting agonizing sith tattoos personally applied by darth sidious

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:38 (nine years ago) link

we also discussed the new leaked movie art, which mostly depicts jar jar binks being milked by various futuristic machines

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:40 (nine years ago) link

*SPOILER*
so we think there is a big milking scene

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link

the hilt does look like 2 bunsen burners

Evan, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link

after the filking scene

xpost

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link

like poetry

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link

binks filks and gets milked xxx

Evan, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:43 (nine years ago) link

milky-chlorians

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link

a Zabrak father who, by tradition, was murdered after Maul's conception.

this is positively the dumbest thing i've ever read in my entire life

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:48 (nine years ago) link

it seems like such a waste of a good Zabrak

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:49 (nine years ago) link

maybe it was many years after conception. it does not say 'immediately after'.

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:51 (nine years ago) link

but someone should have been murdered after Maul's conception is what I'm sayin

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:51 (nine years ago) link

that tradition would quickly result in a declining population and eventual extinction, is the weird thing

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link

I never saw episode 3, should I watch it before I watch this y/n

Lorde 2Pac Beck Mashup (crüt), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link

i want to know more about this Zabrak universe. i would like to know the story of Darth Maul's father, just after his birth. like did he just walk around awaiting his murder or did he fight back? i hope that every father who gets murdered goes down in a 20 minute light saber battle

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:53 (nine years ago) link

maybe it's a tradition bc there are too many zabrak dudes

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:53 (nine years ago) link

after a few generations there wouldn't be

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:53 (nine years ago) link

i imagine that in the Zabrak world that climactic fight scene music from TPM is constantly playing as people get murdered left and right. also in the Zabrak world men are always weeping as they have sex for some reason

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:54 (nine years ago) link

I mean if the male reproduction rate is anything lower than 100% you're going to have an exponentially declining population

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:54 (nine years ago) link

If you survived the first 2 you can do anything

xposts

Evan, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:54 (nine years ago) link

what is the point? u know preying mantises actually have kind of a reason for killing dad right? how do they even keep their population stable if they kill the dad right after a conception? is their infant mortality rate zero? so every darth maul couple can have at most 1 darth maul child who might get their junk chopped off by a lightsaber before they can even produce another darth maul embryo?

ok gd i underestimate this ridiculous thread many xps

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link

I mean if the male reproduction rate is anything lower than 100% you're going to have an exponentially declining population

UNLESS

what if the Zabrak men father multiple babies? if there's even 15 minutes allowed before they get murdered, that's enough time to jump in the bushes with someone else

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:57 (nine years ago) link

that must be it. otherwise you're right, the population would quickly crash. glad to have cleared that up!

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:58 (nine years ago) link

or the ratio of males to females is really large. it would still happen for many more than a few generations

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:59 (nine years ago) link

Zabrak would commonly take their names from animals native to Iridonia, with many Zabrak families named after the Bukk. Many Zabrak males were named after the Blok, Lok, and zur. Many Zabrak females were known to take their names from the Triz.

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 23:05 (nine years ago) link

According to Ashaa, the Mother Machine, the Zabraks were one of her "children," synthetic lifeforms she created under orders from the Infinite Empire, as part of experimentation the Rakata hoped would give them insight into the loss of their connection to the Force. [5] This would place the origins of the species sometime between 30,000 and 25,200 BBY.[6]

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 23:06 (nine years ago) link

Zabraks, unlike Humans, could not grow eyelashes or facial hair – there were some exceptions, such as Maris Brood and Bao-Dur, who had eyebrows) and eye color (which have certain pigmentations that Humans lack, such as purple, yellow, red, and orange).

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 23:08 (nine years ago) link

Many Zabrak females were known to take their names from the Triz.

^^ This stuff. Why "known to take"? Why not "took"?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 23:12 (nine years ago) link

it's more of a rumor

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 23:46 (nine years ago) link

also what does it even mean to take your name from animals? how close did we come to Darth Mittens and Darth Mister Fluffums?

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 23:47 (nine years ago) link

Darth Blobfish

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 23:48 (nine years ago) link

an epic lightsaber battle between Darth Three Toed Sloth and Darth Two Toed Sloth

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 23:53 (nine years ago) link

poop dance of death

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 23:55 (nine years ago) link

Darth Porkins

jmm, Thursday, 4 December 2014 00:12 (nine years ago) link

Darth Maullard

Gauranteed Love Reelationship Solution (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 December 2014 00:13 (nine years ago) link

http://youtu.be/N2Iu39b1IUc

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 4 December 2014 05:07 (nine years ago) link

#1 hope about Boyega trooper is JJ has chosen to totally ignore prequel canon

surely its a goodie in a stormtrooper costume in a "Aren't you a little short to be a stormtrooper?" type scenario?

Nixon head is essential. (stevie), Thursday, 4 December 2014 08:36 (nine years ago) link

Canon is nothing; by the time of ANH, stormtroopers were either conscripts or enlisted, not clones.

Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Thursday, 4 December 2014 09:29 (nine years ago) link

OK this splendid thread has introduced me to the concept of 'Filk'. I think I'm going to let it remain a concept and not watch any YouTube videos.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 4 December 2014 11:02 (nine years ago) link

Good morning! this thread needs Sy Snoodles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_Kj98hIb58

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 December 2014 11:07 (nine years ago) link

that's Sy SNOOTles, fake geek girl

the incredible string gland (sic), Thursday, 4 December 2014 12:01 (nine years ago) link

Massive gallery of models from the OT. For those who like that kind of thing

http://imgur.com/a/Zt9Y4?gallery

Number None, Thursday, 4 December 2014 12:14 (nine years ago) link

(raises hand. ) This would've given 9 y.o. me a heart attack. thanks Number!

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 4 December 2014 12:18 (nine years ago) link

Beautiful

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Thursday, 4 December 2014 12:36 (nine years ago) link

Footage released of Benedict recording voiceover for trailer

http://i.imgur.com/HpFYbwV.gif

, Thursday, 4 December 2014 13:32 (nine years ago) link

Gee wonder what's happening below the frame.

Evan, Thursday, 4 December 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link

Oh my god, those model photos. Those are amazing. The unfinished Death Star! The detailing on the speeder bikes!

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 4 December 2014 15:00 (nine years ago) link

Somehow it never occurred to me that the models had electronics in them, like they couldn't just easily add all the lights and whatnot later

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 15:05 (nine years ago) link

the Death Star model is mind boggling

Number None, Thursday, 4 December 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link

Tarkin's first name is Wilhuff?

jmm, Thursday, 4 December 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link

I thought it was Moff until last week.

how's life, Thursday, 4 December 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link

Moff is his title.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 December 2014 15:46 (nine years ago) link

if Lucas had written a Grand Moff Mhuff into the storyline it wouldn't have surprised me though

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 December 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link

Always thought it was weird that there was no Grand Moff Tarkin action figure (at least, not in 1977-83).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 4 December 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link

generic "Imperial Commander," whom I used in many universes: G.I. Joe, Transformers, etc.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 December 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link

How high a rank is Grand Moff anyway, and are there also Petit Moffs?

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link

Moff Fett

Gauranteed Love Reelationship Solution (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 December 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link

moffe

Lorde 2Pac Beck Mashup (crüt), Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link

I wanted to bring that up, but it's 77

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link

not that I really give a shit

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link

Moff Mon Mothma

Hamhole and Fly Eyes (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link

Would a Sith lord who was also a Moff be a Moff Darth or a Darth Moff?

Hamhole and Fly Eyes (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link

Moff Filk Milks Bink's Drinks

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link

Sith neophytes sitting around coming up with badass Sith names must be very similar to black metal kids.

jmm, Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link

I once read a book about Darth Plagueis. It was terrible.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link

Generally the expanded universe stuff published before TPM came out are okay

, Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link

Like the Timothy Zahn books from upthread

I'd stay the hell away after anything published after 2000 unless it was by an author established to have Done Good Work for the canon

, Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link

yeah well none of it's canon now so might as well burn the lot

Number None, Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link

I'd stay the hell away after anything published after 2000 unless it was by an author established to have Done Good Work for the canon

The Rise of Darth Vader, the only one I've read, wasn't bad as far as slash fic goes.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, the Timothy Zahn books were good, and I enjoyed that Bounty Hunters collection. The Plagueis one was from a couple years ago, really put me off reading any more EU books.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link

basically the only thing I can remember from the Zahn trilogy is that they made a clone called Luuke

Number None, Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link

Grand Admiral Thrawn would view your DeviantArt account and then use that to figure out how to beat you

, Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:46 (nine years ago) link

My favorites are the short story collections that fill in the backstories of all the characters who basically only existed to sell action figures. IIRC, the one centered around Jabba's palace revealed that most of the background dudes had their brains harvested and placed in robotic spider bodies.

Hamhole and Fly Eyes (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link

A Mofference was a secret conference held by the Imperial Central Committee of Grand Moffs in the secluded Mofference room of their Moffship.

Come on now.

ledge, Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link

That reminds me, back in the 90s, pre-TPM, I had this really elaborate screen saver package thing that had all these nutso, in-depth things to play around with. Like you could pull up a screen shot from the cantina sequence and click on all the characters and it would give some in-depth bio about them. Thought it was really cool at the time, but for the like of me I can't remember what it was called.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link

Mofference = the Shriner's Convention of the Star Wars universe

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link

that's mofful!

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link

oh shit, wait, here it is!

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link

story I remember from Jabba's Palace is the one about the "snot vampire"

was written in an annoying stream of consciousness style iirc

Number None, Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link

Uh, I believe you're actually talking about the Dannik Jerriko story from Tales From The Mos Eisley Cantina.

I think. I dunno. WGAF.

Hamhole and Fly Eyes (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

hey i lost track of this thread, but DJP if you're still reading i want to encourage you to watch the redlettermedia reviews despite the fact that they're not mst3k (and yes despite the terrible misogyny)

the biggest eye-opener for me was how he lays out in excruciating detail the physical limitations of filming everything on a green screen sound stage to the point that no one ever moves anywhere at a speed above a light trot

gr8080, Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link

I know I read Shadows of the Empire, the Rogue Squadron books, I, Jedi, the Jedi Academy books, and the Bounty Hunters collection where IG-88 is secretly the MOST IMPORTANT CHARACTER EVAR. That's it I swear.

jmm, Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link

Yeah that IG-88 story was great. My wife bought our three year old this Star Wars counting book and for the '7' page it shows the bounty hunters (plus a couple from the stupid prequels). IG-88 is his favorite, followed by Zuckuss.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link

"It doesn't matter if this story is ridiculous and way disproportionate to the importance of this character, as long as it doesn't contradict existing canon."

jmm, Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link

i was always a dengar fan, because for some reason every kid had to have a favorite weird looking bounty hunter who showed up for one scene

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:05 (nine years ago) link

Dengar is the dude with the head cast, right? I remember reading he was Corellian too.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link

i bought his trading card off ebay using actual money

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link

Bossk! He was the second action figure I got, after, er, Hammerhead.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link

as long as it doesn't contradict existing canon. as long as we can find enough margins and empty space in the existing canon to force it to cohere."

jmm, Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link

Hammerhead and Walrus Man and Power Droid were the three action figures I basically integrated into very universe for the next six years.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link

Always thought Bossk looked like an x-wing pilot.

how's life, Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link

Christmas, 1980, I received my first ever Star Wars toys. A bit behind others itt, I'm sure, but I was 4 at that point.

http://a.dilcdn.com/bl/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2014/01/DVSD2-400x253.jpeg
http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/5361/8439222_1.jpg?v=8CB24FA53CC2B80

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link

that star destroyer toy is kind of a weird experiment in scale/perpsective

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:19 (nine years ago) link

Er, it just represents a small part of the craft, no? Though they seem to have amalgamated the command deck and Vader's chill out pad.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:20 (nine years ago) link

Yeah that toy design concept is kind of a mess. Still would have loved it as a kid.

Evan, Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

always wished Vader's chill out pad came equipped:

http://s3-media2.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/9vchEaN4OTPsMkeWe521uw/l.jpg

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

Bet there are some heavy metal posters stuck to the inside of the top bit of that pod thing.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link

No way, those would interfere with the Pink Floyd laser light show.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link

"It doesn't matter if this story is ridiculous and way disproportionate to the importance of this character, as long as it doesn't contradict existing canon."

You are making some insulting assertions about the importance of these characters (hint: they are ALL important, even if you don't know why).

Hamhole and Fly Eyes (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:38 (nine years ago) link

Er, it just represents a small part of the craft, no? Though they seem to have amalgamated the command deck and Vader's chill out pad.

― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, December 4, 2014 12:20 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah that toy design concept is kind of a mess. Still would have loved it as a kid.

― Evan, Thursday, December 4, 2014 12:22 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They did this with most of the toys. The Death Star just cobbled together a few scenes:
http://www.rebelscum.com/Kenner/PS-DeathStar1/header.jpg

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link

possibly spoilery

Boyega plays a “force-sensitive” stormtrooper who defects from the Empire and ends up stranded on Tatooine, where he is hunted as a deserter.

which if true hopefully means he makes a major costume change at whatever point the defection kicks in

nashwan, Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link

is that like gluten-sensitive? you have it but you don't have it?

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link

when did Bodega appear?

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link

Bad ass cannon on that Death Star toy.

as a kid I HATED those plastic cloaks.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link

I was kinda hoping the explanation would be that some Imperial units had begun splintering off and joining the rebels. Oh well.

jmm, Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:53 (nine years ago) link

Plastic cloaks and skinny necks always wound up broken.

And what was the deal with that protrusion on the end of the lightsabers?

Hamhole and Fly Eyes (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:55 (nine years ago) link

Something about stormtroopers eating force-free cookies at bodegas. Got it.

Evan, Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link

I had that death star set as a kid. It was lots of fun, but fell apart very easily. The orange trash compactor filled with foam "trash" bits was the best part.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:58 (nine years ago) link

I rewatched the Red Letter Media review of Attack of the Clones recently, and it really is a devastating take down of the film, and Lucas' approach to the prequels. It isn't just a series of snarky smartmouth comments like MST3K at all; it's actually quite angry, lol.

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:58 (nine years ago) link

I remember the falcon toy seeming very cool, a friend had it

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link

I owned it too – one of the few expensive SW toys (the AT-AT too).

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link

i had a Dagoba set (which i think i scammed from another kid somehow?) that had a foam swamp you could put things in.

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:02 (nine years ago) link

I had Dagobah, the Ewok Village, the Hoth set with the turret, Jabba's throne thing (which was so stupid to me, Jabba doesn't sit ON the trap door, how does that even work?) and the Falcon. Was always super jealous of kids that had an AT-AT.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link

YES

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link

Jabba's throne thing (which was so stupid to me, Jabba doesn't sit ON the trap door, how does that even work?)

in the commercial Jabba slid off the dais and onto a shoebox. This traumatized me when I was nine.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:07 (nine years ago) link

Oh, also the Tauntaun with the trapdoor in the stomach to push Luke in.

xpost - Ha, I forgot about that commercial!

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:07 (nine years ago) link

The biggest star wars toy I had was a y-wing fighter. The little things on the back were always falling off.

how's life, Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link

Worse: it's A BOOK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3fQbm8Q9es

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link

I remember trying to time the flip of the trap doors, since they swung UP, so that my figure would launch in the air and still land down in the "pit".

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:09 (nine years ago) link

Oh my god, the Star Destroyer playset designed to be arm-mounted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gsLK16r2sY

jmm, Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link

Toy millenium falcon was the shit.

I was also obsessed with IG 88 because the action figure was never available at my local k-mart. And Bossk was cool because he was one of the few whose head was removeable - I remember swapping it with Hoth Han Solo a lot to make like a winter lizard man.

joygoat, Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link

also owned this, the last SW toy I got for Xmas ('83). Fuckin' great and it CAME with the action figures:

http://mightyjabba.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/vintage_jabbas_dungeon2.jpg?w=600&h=500

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link

where's the tyre on a rope?

nashwan, Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:19 (nine years ago) link

are KENNER still a big noise in the States?

piscesx, Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link

KENNER no longer exists.

Hamhole and Fly Eyes (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link

Owned by Hasbro, closed in 2000.

Hamhole and Fly Eyes (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:28 (nine years ago) link

This thing is FOUR HUNDRED FUCKING DOLLARS why?

Because Lego sets have always been ridiculously overpriced. Branded Lego sets are even worse. Star Wars branded Lego sets are the worst.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link

I guess they have, but they seem especially inflated now? Like when I was a kid I don't remember large lego sets seeming like the kind of thing that was totally out of reach pricewise, whereas there's no way I'd spend the kind of money some of these sets cost on a gift for my own kid.

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link

apparently the price per brick has actually gone down, there's just a lot more of these ridiculously huge sets (the Death Star has 3803 pieces)

http://therealityprose.wordpress.com/2013/01/17/what_happened_with_lego/

Number None, Thursday, 4 December 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link

xp Right, but Lego can still make a lot of money even with precisely zero kids in the target market for that.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 4 December 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link

Also yeah Red Letter Media are legit good if gimmicky (kind of like Film Crit Hulk?) - they made a half-hour long thing about Jack & Jill which is fascinating (even beyond being a half-hour long about Jack & Jill and watchable).

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 4 December 2014 19:19 (nine years ago) link

it's kind of hard for me to fathom that death star having 3803 pieces bc it just doesn't look that big

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 19:24 (nine years ago) link

Think the hilt for protecting wrists is a good idea for an unskilled lightsaber user. Though if you're unskilled enough to need one I'm not sure you should be using a lightsaber in the first place, that's really dangerous.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 4 December 2014 19:29 (nine years ago) link

true, tanuki, true

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 19:30 (nine years ago) link

Emergency cutting open of Tauntaun bellies is permissible.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 4 December 2014 19:30 (nine years ago) link

A Mofference was a secret conference held by the Imperial Central Committee of Grand Moffs in the secluded Mofference room of their Moffship.
Come on now.
― ledge, Thursday, December 4, 2014 4:52 PM (2 hours ago)

Emperor: Boba Fett in the mofference room.
Darth: Yeah, I'd like to suck on some of that!
Emperor: o_O
<Darth goes to conference room, sees it's Jango Fett not Boba>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 4 December 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link

"Mofference" might be the stupidest Star Wars-related thing I've ever heard.

Today, anyway.

Hamhole and Fly Eyes (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 December 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link

force-sensitive is up there, for today

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link

"Silence! I call this Dartherence to order!"

Hamhole and Fly Eyes (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link

Mofference vs. Sithcon

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link

read that as sithcoin first

Nixon head is essential. (stevie), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link

Darth is such a moff-diver...

schwantz, Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link

you aren't being very force-sensitive with those slurs

Evan, Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link

re the nature of performances in SW, Pauline Kael in '77:

Lucas has got the tone of bad movies down pat: you never catch the actors deliberately acting badly; they just seem to be bad actors, on contract to Monogram or Republic, their klunky enthusiasm polished at the Ricky Nelson school of acting. In a gesture toward equality of the sexes, the high-school-cheerleader princess-in-distress (played by Carrie Fisher) talks tomboy-tough--Terry Moore with spunk. (Is it because the picture is synthesized from the mythology of serials and old comic books that it didn't occur to anybody that she could get the Force?)

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link

good conference room gag by forks, first solid entry in the form in a while

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:36 (nine years ago) link

Kael being force-sensitive.

jmm, Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:36 (nine years ago) link

i could watch movies for the rest of my life not knowing what pauline kael thought of them and be perfectly happy about it

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link

iirc she returns to that can-Leia-use-the-Force thing in her ROTJ review.

She's not wrong, J.D. Those Republic motion pictures were fun.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link

Kael sounds like the least fun person ever

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link

I posted her review of Empire yesterday – she loved it.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:40 (nine years ago) link

tbh I don't think I would've loved SW either if I hadn't seen Empire first.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:40 (nine years ago) link

Yes, she liked the second movie a lot more.

You do realize that Star Wars (1977) was modeled on crap movies, right?

btw here's the rest of her capsule review:

One of the biggest box-office successes in movie history--probably because for young audiences it's like getting a box of Cracker Jack that is all prizes. Written and directed by George Lucas, the film is enjoyable in its own terms, but it's exhausting, too: like taking a pack of kids to the circus. There's no breather in the picture, no lyricism; the only attempt at beauty is in the image of a double sunset. The loudness, the smash-and-grab editing, and the relentless pacing drive every idea from your head, and even if you've been entertained, you may feel cheated of some dimension--a sense of wonder, perhaps. It's an epic without a dream. Maybe the only real inspiration involved was to set its sci-fi galaxy in the pop-culture past, and to turn old-movie ineptness into conscious Pop Art. And maybe there's a touch of genius in keeping the film so consistently what it is, even if this is the genius of the plodding.

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link

she's not really wrong, but i do find her constant barrage of 'you feel this,' 'you think that,' 'you feel cheated,' etc. exhausting.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link

she is not the critic you are looking for

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:50 (nine years ago) link

the only attempt at beauty is in the image of a double sunset.

ah, but what a double sunset.

Nixon head is essential. (stevie), Thursday, 4 December 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link

all the way across the sky!

Evan, Thursday, 4 December 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link

can we discuss how awesome this sounds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aMudiylPiw

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 December 2014 22:48 (nine years ago) link

would be funny if everyone in starwars figured out how to use the Force. It would be like scanners.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 December 2014 23:05 (nine years ago) link

It must be so frustrating when it's your 21st birthday and you haven't even felt the tip of the Force.

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 4 December 2014 23:06 (nine years ago) link

And what was the deal with that protrusion on the end of the lightsabers?

pilot light. these existed on the real lightsabers but were matted out onscreen.

the incredible string gland (sic), Thursday, 4 December 2014 23:16 (nine years ago) link

And what was the deal with that protrusion on the end of the lightsabers?

even a long long time ago in a galaxy far, far away they argue about circumcision.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 December 2014 23:18 (nine years ago) link

http://popmech.tumblr.com/post/100945828153 was this posted itt? it pretty much has destroyed everything for me

http://41.media.tumblr.com/82a4e6ce13b067a25413ea041655709e/tumblr_nd6y33G9F01s2wio8o6_1280.jpg

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 4 December 2014 23:50 (nine years ago) link

my childhood is dead :( it was only 26

i seriously never actually considered any sort of thought about how the big space battles were filmed

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 4 December 2014 23:52 (nine years ago) link

that just makes it cooler

Number None, Thursday, 4 December 2014 23:55 (nine years ago) link

just some dudes in a parking lot weaving sci-fi dreams

Number None, Thursday, 4 December 2014 23:56 (nine years ago) link

gonna rewatch ANH and keep an eye out for the beige pickup truck

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 5 December 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link

I love that. Those ship models above too. Model effects will always be way cooler than CG.

jmm, Friday, 5 December 2014 00:12 (nine years ago) link

CG can work better for creatures if tastefully done, but buildings and vehicles should always be models.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 5 December 2014 00:22 (nine years ago) link

Yeah seeing the models just confirms how much great craftmanship really went into those films.

Not saying there's no skill in cgi work, just that endless amounts of beardies making cool huge detailed models is way more epic.

Recently watched the Bladerunner making of, and how they created the long view of the city. Utterly mind blowing.

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Friday, 5 December 2014 00:39 (nine years ago) link

Recently watched the Bladerunner making of, and how they created the long view of the city. Utterly mind blowing.

Same here--all those bits of photo-etched metal, and a Millennium Falcon model stuck in sideways to be a building, and millions of little greebly bits for texture. Lovely. I wish I had a job doing that.

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 5 December 2014 00:44 (nine years ago) link

i'm cool with all buildings being google sketchup models as long as jim henson productions makes all monsters out of felt.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 5 December 2014 00:44 (nine years ago) link

that Blade Runner doc is like one long eulogy for the art of practical effects

Number None, Friday, 5 December 2014 00:45 (nine years ago) link

Did Kael hate "Blade Runner"? What an old crab.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 5 December 2014 00:51 (nine years ago) link

I know it blew my mind years ago when I learned that it was not the ships flying fast but the camera moving past the models.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 December 2014 01:08 (nine years ago) link

Guys... the Moffship thing let me to this:

Trioculus was a three-eyed mutant warlord of the Galactic Empire who declared himself Emperor a year after the Battle of Endor. As a figurehead of the Central Committee of Grand Moffs, led by his mentor Bertroff Hissa, Trioculus took control of the remnants of the Empire in opposition to Ysanne Isard.

The self-proclaimed son of Palpatine, Trioculus was in actuality a pretender to the throne, usurping the role of Palpatine's true son, three-eyed mutant Triclops. Spurred on by a prophecy of Rajah Ubooki, the false Kadann, he sought the glove of Darth Vader to establish his legitimacy. Trioculus's pursuit of the Jedi Prince Ken and his infatuation with Leia Organa pitted him against rival Zorba Desilijic Tiure, and led to him being taken captive by the Hutt and frozen in carbonite. Trioculus was eventually betrayed by Kadann, who sought the Imperial throne himself, and in the end was assassinated by a New Republic droid.

My brain just starts shutting down when there are so many linked things I've never heard of. And then I start clicking links...

Pooja Bhatt's erotic thriller Jism 2 (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 5 December 2014 01:13 (nine years ago) link

Did Kael hate "Blade Runner"? What an old crab.

― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee),

I don't know but Blade Runner sucks. I understand its reputation: art direction, atmosphere, etc. The story and acting are crap.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 December 2014 01:16 (nine years ago) link

Yep. I've always wished that movie was more engaging, because I love everything about its looks.

jmm, Friday, 5 December 2014 01:20 (nine years ago) link

where does blade runner rank on acting/story on the PKD adaptations?

Philip Nunez, Friday, 5 December 2014 01:30 (nine years ago) link

Gotta be #1 on both counts, but I'm a blade runner stan

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Friday, 5 December 2014 01:33 (nine years ago) link

i'm just picturing schwarzenegger and ford swapping PKD roles.

"You've been voight-kampfed!"

Philip Nunez, Friday, 5 December 2014 01:37 (nine years ago) link

I've watched Blade Runner at least five times now and can't remember a thing about it, I just stop caring halfway through or something.

joygoat, Friday, 5 December 2014 01:41 (nine years ago) link

no actor sounds cool saying "Sushi. That's what my ex-wife called me - cold fish. "

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 5 December 2014 01:42 (nine years ago) link

sometimes I think it'd help if actors in movies stopped and asked, "Hey if we were posting this conversation to an ilx messageboard thread right now, would we be FP'd?"

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 5 December 2014 01:44 (nine years ago) link

Shaking my head in disbelief at "Blade Runner sucks." It's a beaten down soulless future LA, guys!! And Rutger Hauer is excellent. Crazy talk.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 5 December 2014 01:48 (nine years ago) link

and that's different from the present LA how?

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 December 2014 01:49 (nine years ago) link

"cool future distopia movie. is it the first one ever?"

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 5 December 2014 01:49 (nine years ago) link

I wasn't much into blade runner

18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Friday, 5 December 2014 01:54 (nine years ago) link

*places origami unicorn in thread and leaves*

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 5 December 2014 01:56 (nine years ago) link

looking forward to the reboot/crossover with total recall.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 5 December 2014 01:59 (nine years ago) link

*...graced with a single Sean Young teardrop *

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 December 2014 02:00 (nine years ago) link

arnold would have lent more weight to the 'deckard was a robot' thing

Philip Nunez, Friday, 5 December 2014 02:00 (nine years ago) link

Palpatine's true son, three-eyed mutant Triclops
Palpatine's true son, three-eyed mutant Triclops
Palpatine's true son, three-eyed mutant Triclops
Palpatine's true son, three-eyed mutant Triclops

You have three eyes son, we have to call you Triclops.

jmm, Friday, 5 December 2014 02:00 (nine years ago) link

fuuuuuuuck. it's like a biclops but with 3 eyes -> so triclops!

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 5 December 2014 02:01 (nine years ago) link

Having never been to present LA I couldn't tell you. But do they limit how many fish heads you can order in present LA?

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 5 December 2014 02:07 (nine years ago) link

Gonna go watch "Dressed To Kill". First time. Kael liked it!

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 5 December 2014 02:08 (nine years ago) link

like getting a box of Cracker Jack that is all prizes

ooh that's good.

piscesx, Friday, 5 December 2014 02:10 (nine years ago) link

couldn't keep up with this thread for a couple of days, just catching up now...
holy christ if it was nerdy before, is it ever gummed up now

i love u guys srsly

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 5 December 2014 02:16 (nine years ago) link

the full sentence is essential, i hope this is considered a possible subplot for episode 8 or so. The self-proclaimed son of Palpatine, Trioculus was in actuality a pretender to the throne, usurping the role of Palpatine's true son, three-eyed mutant Triclops.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 5 December 2014 02:21 (nine years ago) link

Basically you're stuck with a three-eyed-mutant Emperor no matter what. You're getting a three-eyed-mutant.

jmm, Friday, 5 December 2014 02:30 (nine years ago) link

Lol @ all this bladerunner dissing in a fucking star wars thread

Οὖτις, Friday, 5 December 2014 03:12 (nine years ago) link

Empire Strikes Back is better than Blade Runner. Simple.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 December 2014 03:23 (nine years ago) link

Nope. False.

Οὖτις, Friday, 5 December 2014 03:26 (nine years ago) link

i've seen prequels you wouldn't believe...

Philip Nunez, Friday, 5 December 2014 03:27 (nine years ago) link

Nope. False.

― Οὖτις,

will somebody get this walkin' carpet outta my way?

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 December 2014 03:35 (nine years ago) link

aww shakey's getting all nerd defensive in the star wars thread

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 5 December 2014 03:42 (nine years ago) link

Alfred have you seen Blade Runner on the big screen?

A lot of the shots don't really make sense until they're hueg. Pacing works much better too.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 5 December 2014 04:12 (nine years ago) link

Tri-Klops was a He-Man character!

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100216014517/heman/images/1/11/Triklops3.jpg

DonkeyTeeth, Friday, 5 December 2014 05:13 (nine years ago) link

I had that action figure

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 5 December 2014 05:19 (nine years ago) link

A lot of the shots don't really make sense until they're hueg. Pacing works much better too.

This is so true. I had seen it multiple times, but never really fell in love with until I saw the Director's Cut on the big screen.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 December 2014 05:33 (nine years ago) link

empire is great for entirely different reasons than bladerunner
i love them both too much to choose

ridley scott made the future look like a real place; and george lucas made space seem like a bitchin place to hang out

has anyone tried a mashup i wonder

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 5 December 2014 05:48 (nine years ago) link

for different reasons possibly bcz Star Wars ISN'T science fiction?

https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llkbbeBa9R1qaci5n.jpg

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 December 2014 05:56 (nine years ago) link

this is not the thread you are looking for

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 5 December 2014 05:59 (nine years ago) link

lol otm

resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 5 December 2014 06:27 (nine years ago) link

that was to morbs but it works both ways

resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 5 December 2014 06:27 (nine years ago) link

the only reason Blade Runner is boring is Daryl Hannah, but that's a valid reason to find it boring

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 5 December 2014 06:41 (nine years ago) link

since i've seen Blade Runner maybe 3 times, like a normal person, i don't even remember her being in it.

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 December 2014 06:50 (nine years ago) link

she does so many cartwheels tho dude

gbx, Friday, 5 December 2014 07:10 (nine years ago) link

you have to help us jf. you're our best and only friend.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 5 December 2014 07:36 (nine years ago) link

the bradbury building gives a better performance in blade runner than anyone gives in eps 1-3

resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 5 December 2014 07:37 (nine years ago) link

Which Blade Runner doc were you guys talking about?

jmm, Friday, 5 December 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link

Dangerous Days: Making Blade Runner

Number None, Friday, 5 December 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link

Given the weirdly advanced and sterile atmosphere of the prequels, lightsabers just don't seem that impressive of a tool. This is regardless of being watered down merely by overuse as well. What I mean is all the technology seemed so advanced and perfect I don't think it'd phase anyone to see a lightsaber set of kitchen knives or a lightsaber gardening shovel in any given scene.

Evan, Friday, 5 December 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link

only real masters of the force are capable to withstand all that radiation over extended periods of time

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 5 December 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link

All that radiation really takes a toll on their midichlorian count, though.

Hamhole and Fly Eyes (Old Lunch), Friday, 5 December 2014 19:06 (nine years ago) link

oh god "capable to withstand" i need to take a break

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 5 December 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link

Star Wars fans can rationalize anything. I think Lucas knew this and with the prequels presented his greatest challenge to them. It's his masterpiece in that regard. Thank you George Lucas.

Evan, Friday, 5 December 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link

Since we were on the subject of Darths above, if you play the Star Wars: The Old Republic MMORPG, the major Sith lords you run into during the story are Darth Marr, Darth Baras, Darth Angral, Darth Malgus, Darth Skotia, Darth Jadus, Darth Serevin and Darth Lachris.

Also, Moff Dracen and Moff Kilran.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Friday, 5 December 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link

darth brooks

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:09 (nine years ago) link

Darth Scotiabank

jmm, Friday, 5 December 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link

Darth Marr of the Smith Lords

Evan, Friday, 5 December 2014 21:14 (nine years ago) link

srs question: can gamorreans and ugnaughts crossbreed, asking for a friend

Hamhole and Fly Eyes (Old Lunch), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link

Unless that important question's answer can provide a desperate rationalization for discrepancies in logic or story of the star wars universe, I worry it sadly may have never been addressed.

Evan, Friday, 5 December 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link

srs question

Οὖτις, Friday, 5 December 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link

I think we need to establish which species is descended from pigs and whether or not they inherited the corkscrew penis gene

Οὖτις, Friday, 5 December 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link

corkscrew penis gene is a pretty good guy

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:24 (nine years ago) link

Find just one contradiction in the Star Wars universe and then crossbreed whatever the heck you want.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_explosion

jmm, Friday, 5 December 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link

p. sure that despite their aged looks, Ugnaughts are the larval stage of Gamorreans

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link

what about the uggsandleggingsnaughts?

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:30 (nine years ago) link

Looks like there has been extensive research and testing. Here are the findings:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-a5T3QlMO_kQ/UXX6dYcgoCI/AAAAAAAAACg/jWmb7yo7zKI/s1600/Compare+1.png

Evan, Friday, 5 December 2014 21:34 (nine years ago) link

I feel certain that the darkest corners of the internet have already obsessively detailed the many varieties of interspecies trysts within the Star Wars universe. Hot Bantha on AT-AT action and what have you.

Hamhole and Fly Eyes (Old Lunch), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:35 (nine years ago) link

Aw, I got the save the date too! See you there.

Evan, Friday, 5 December 2014 21:44 (nine years ago) link

apparently that's what he looks like in star wars 7

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link

time has not treated him well

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link

han solo

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link

dentures from war wound

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link

Darth Marr of the Smith Lords

― Evan, Friday, December 5, 2014 4:14 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm personally hurt & offended that this was ignored.

Evan, Monday, 8 December 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link

I chuckled at it, for the record!

Doctor Casino, Monday, 8 December 2014 18:50 (nine years ago) link

Darth Algar and the Pain Cave

Hamhole and Fly Eyes (Old Lunch), Monday, 8 December 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link

oh Georgepaws.

piscesx, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link

No Gungans, no dice.

Hamhole and Fly Eyes (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link

George is all PEACE OUT NERDS

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link

But when we asked Lucas if he was curious to see what Abrams has done with the new “Star Wars,” Lucas said, “Not really.”

Aw don't be pouty.

Evan, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 23:31 (nine years ago) link

that's so fucking lame

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 00:54 (nine years ago) link

dude sold off the whole thing bcz he didn't want to think about Star Wars anymore

Gland Of Horses (sic), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 04:19 (nine years ago) link

ding ding ding

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 04:20 (nine years ago) link

GL donated like 4 billion to charity, he's a good guy

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 04:23 (nine years ago) link

that single comment led me down a rabbit hole of googling billionaire philanthropists and somehow hating them even more. i feel like i've turned to the dark side

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 04:31 (nine years ago) link

if i peaced out from my job i'd be pretty whatever about ppl trying to tell me what the new guy is doing

he's bingewatching his power of myth boxset & eating ho-hos & making ships in bottles

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 05:08 (nine years ago) link

i hope the series is incredibly good so disney's not tempted to george smiley him back into the circus

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 05:11 (nine years ago) link

yep

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 05:12 (nine years ago) link

His ho-ho consumption frequency has never actually changed though

Evan, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 05:34 (nine years ago) link

lol

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 05:58 (nine years ago) link

and he is stuffing 450 ships into those tiny bottles

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 06:10 (nine years ago) link

omg dying

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 06:15 (nine years ago) link

hahahaha

gr8080, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 12:43 (nine years ago) link

that single comment led me down a rabbit hole of googling billionaire philanthropists and somehow hating them even more. i feel like i've turned to the dark side

What if Darth Vader offset his actions with the occasional grand charitable gesture? What if, despite being an intergalactic asshole, he was pro gay marriage and single payer health care? What ... if ... ?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 13:05 (nine years ago) link

Has it ever really been made clear what the Empire's policies were on anything? Like, they just seem to like putting stormtroopers everywhere. And then when people rebel against stormtroopers being put everywhere, they blow up a planet, I guess.

Pooja Bhatt's erotic thriller Jism 2 (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 13:13 (nine years ago) link

people always talk about the blowing up planets but what about the radical welfare reforms?

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 13:32 (nine years ago) link

welfare reform doesn't get much more radical than straight-up destroying a planet tbh

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 13:33 (nine years ago) link

http://dailybail.com/storage/bill-clinton-404_683090c.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1285011722646

"Good, good - I can feel your anger!"

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 13:58 (nine years ago) link

UNLIMITED POWAAAAHHHHH

Pooja Bhatt's erotic thriller Jism 2 (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 14:30 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/mVOX6.jpg

Hamhole and Fly Eyes (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 14:57 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/h0i1AoX.jpg

Number None, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 15:01 (nine years ago) link

I wish that there was just one more picture at the end where his face gets replaced with a fingernail.

Evan, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 15:05 (nine years ago) link

looooool

gr8080, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link

you look at those memos and really it's no surprise that these ppl turn out such shit

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link

Has it ever really been made clear what the Empire's policies were on anything? Like, they just seem to like putting stormtroopers everywhere. And then when people rebel against stormtroopers being put everywhere, they blow up a planet, I guess.

― Pooja Bhatt's erotic thriller Jism 2 (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:13 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the most compelling evidence that the Empire isn't evil comes in The Empire Strikes Back when Darth Vader is battling Luke Skywalker. After an exhausting fight, Vader is poised to finish Luke off, but he stays his hand. He tries to convert Luke to the Dark Side with this simple plea: "There is no escape. Don't make me destroy you. . . . Join me, and I will complete your training. With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict and bring order to the galaxy." It is here we find the real controlling impulse for the Dark Side and the Empire. The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/248ipzbt.asp

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link

did Bill Kristol write that

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link

At least the Empire's trains run on time.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:26 (nine years ago) link

if there's one thing evil people hate, it's order

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:26 (nine years ago) link

does this mean Ted Cruz will use the Imperial March at campaign appearances?

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOzHoJYKMtM

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link

Most dictators want control so everything will be the way they think it should be ("order") at the expense of others and their ideologies.

Evan, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:30 (nine years ago) link

in the one SW slashfic novel I read it's clear that the Emperor believes he's a good man.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link

How, I dare to wonder, do they square that with their embrace of the "Dark Side," hate, anger, etc.?

Anakin's temptation in the prequels would have been a lot more convincing if it actually was played as more like what Yoda describes in the original films: it's not stronger, but it's quicker, so you could come to believe you were doing the righteous and necessary thing, directly, while those fuddy-duddy Jedis dither over whether it's the right thing to do. He should have been tempted by, like, resolving the war quickly by a gradually worsening series of atrocities, not by the promise of a magic anti-death-in-childbirth potion, coming soon from the Emperor. Also, tangent and old news but maaaaaaan how lame is it that "he helped the Emperor hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights" means "he killed a bunch of kids this one time and then the Emperor activated his robot kill program"? It's tough for me now to remember the days when I imagined the "Jedi Knights" as kind of a small number of widely-dispersed do-gooders, out there righting wrongs and guarding peace without much fanfare or institutional structure.... like how Gandalf and Radagast do their own thing but just kind of bump into each other once every hundred years.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

For Palpatine to learn that Anakin would join him for the sake of saving Natalie Portman and her sob was the first of a series of disappointments.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link

I always figured the Emperor was self-consciously evil. He knows he's a huge prick and loves it. That might not be a subtle or coherent representation evil, but he's there as a kind of imaginary limit against which the more conflicted characters are measured.

jmm, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link

he's the Grand Inquisitor, duh

the most painstaking, humorless people in the world (lukas), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link

he believes he's using evil means to achieve good outcomes

the most painstaking, humorless people in the world (lukas), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:53 (nine years ago) link

good guys don't shoot lightning out of their fingertips and he really wanted to do that

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, his second-in-command is someone he has psychologically tortured, and that's how it's supposed to be - he might replace him with someone else that he's psychologically tortured, leading up to him taking his father's place by killing him - and that would be fine too. It's a win-win world when you're the Senior Sith Lord.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link

Hi I made you some pronoun salad, hope you like it.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link

xp KOTOR games were actually quite good at that, if you choose light or dark you get broadly similar powers (suggestion vs overwhelming their mind etc), but only one gives you lightning fingertips.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:58 (nine years ago) link

Anakin's temptation in the prequels would have been a lot more convincing if it actually was played as more like what Yoda describes in the original films: it's not stronger, but it's quicker, so you could come to believe you were doing the righteous and necessary thing, directly, while those fuddy-duddy Jedis dither over whether it's the right thing to do. He should have been tempted by, like, resolving the war quickly by a gradually worsening series of atrocities, not by the promise of a magic anti-death-in-childbirth potion, coming soon from the Emperor. Also, tangent and old news but maaaaaaan how lame is it that "he helped the Emperor hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights" means "he killed a bunch of kids this one time and then the Emperor activated his robot kill program"? It's tough for me now to remember the days when I imagined the "Jedi Knights" as kind of a small number of widely-dispersed do-gooders, out there righting wrongs and guarding peace without much fanfare or institutional structure.... like how Gandalf and Radagast do their own thing but just kind of bump into each other once every hundred years.

Making me wonder if there are any good sci fi prequels, cf. how the SW prequels and our old friend Prometheus try to flesh out something that's just suggested in the original text ('Jedi Knights' and the dead navigator) and fail

cardamon, Thursday, 11 December 2014 00:38 (nine years ago) link

Hi I made you some pronoun salad, hope you like it.

― Andrew Farrell,

more vinaigrette I need

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 December 2014 00:44 (nine years ago) link

Also, tangent and old news but maaaaaaan how lame is it that "he helped the Emperor hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights" means "he killed a bunch of kids this one time and then the Emperor activated his robot kill program"?

he did in the books -- he becomes Tarkin's enforcer basically, brought on as the guy who has most commerce with the Emperor (although Tarkin does too).

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 December 2014 00:45 (nine years ago) link

Making me wonder if there are any good sci fi prequels, cf. how the SW prequels and our old friend Prometheus try to flesh out something that's just suggested in the original text ('Jedi Knights' and the dead navigator) and fail

― cardamon, Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:38 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

caprica was good for about an episode

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 11 December 2014 01:34 (nine years ago) link

which one?

resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 11 December 2014 01:40 (nine years ago) link

Kylo Renney

a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 11 December 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link

Kylo Riley

Pooja Bhatt's erotic thriller Jism 2 (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 11 December 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link

I totally had a huge pile of Star Wars bubblegum cards. Back when I was 4, they used to sell bubblegum cards from ice cream trucks. I have, like, a ton of Star Wars, a handful of Battlestar Galactica cards, and maybe four Kiss cards. And somehow I also ended up with Wayne Gretzky's rookie card. I didn't even know they made hockey trading cards.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 December 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link

oscar isaac as damon dash or smth

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 11 December 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link

as an elementary school star wars CCG obsessive who basically sees all star wars media through the lens of the star wars CCG, those cards are alright. but the names are dumb.

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 11 December 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link

yeah, it's star wars

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Thursday, 11 December 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link

I've still got a stash of the original cards around in my desk. I mean, why wouldn't I, me being me.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 December 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link

I am a tedious fuck for being annoyed that those cards all have the exact same stains/creases, etc

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 12 December 2014 00:29 (nine years ago) link

They're from an old universe

Pooja Bhatt's erotic thriller Jism 2 (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 12 December 2014 00:56 (nine years ago) link

how's yr petard?

Gland Of Horses (sic), Friday, 12 December 2014 03:24 (nine years ago) link

i meant the pictures u pedant, i know they were in the link

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 December 2014 03:56 (nine years ago) link

clear your cache

Gland Of Horses (sic), Friday, 12 December 2014 04:11 (nine years ago) link

huh

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 December 2014 04:13 (nine years ago) link

(They've messed with the links, made direct links to the JPEGs show the entire page)

koogs, Friday, 12 December 2014 04:32 (nine years ago) link

(Ah, I have images off so I see only the links. If I click on them it goes to the page. But if I long click and open in new tab I get the image.)

koogs, Friday, 12 December 2014 04:36 (nine years ago) link

i dont see any of that on zing

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 December 2014 04:47 (nine years ago) link

petard shmetard

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 December 2014 04:47 (nine years ago) link

"open image in new tab" takes me to collider.com home page

Gland Of Horses (sic), Friday, 12 December 2014 04:58 (nine years ago) link

can we pedant about other things now

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 December 2014 05:09 (nine years ago) link

you guys sure ate up that sith.

Has anyone unearthed which of these VII characters are the progeny of the original trio of leads?

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 December 2014 06:27 (nine years ago) link

Some of these names, like "Poe Dameron" or "Finn", sound curiously English, so I think it's time to bring up this question again:

Are the people in the Star Wars movies humans?

Tuomas, Friday, 12 December 2014 09:37 (nine years ago) link

Is there really no other nationality that the name 'Finn' makes you think of?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 12 December 2014 11:45 (nine years ago) link

HAHA

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Friday, 12 December 2014 11:47 (nine years ago) link

lol

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 12 December 2014 11:49 (nine years ago) link

"Finn" is not a Finnish name. There is an archaic female first name "Suometar", which translates roughly to "Finlandess" (as in "lioness"), but I don't think anyone's been given that name in decades.

Tuomas, Friday, 12 December 2014 11:57 (nine years ago) link

Finn's not an particularly English name either - it is apparently top 10 in Germany - have you tried www.ilxor.de ?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 12 December 2014 12:15 (nine years ago) link

What's the source for that? I've never met or heard of a German with the first name "Finn"...

Tuomas, Friday, 12 December 2014 12:19 (nine years ago) link

A minute's Googling, and this: http://www.firstnamesgermany.com/

Though it's only fair to point out that I'm really not that invested in this beyond pointing out that Luke (and possibly Ben?) are the only English names in a series known for ridiculous names, AND that this isn't really a reasonable link to your 43rd theory of point-missing.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 12 December 2014 12:34 (nine years ago) link

It's Gaelic isn't it? Finn MacCool!

Frederik B, Friday, 12 December 2014 12:34 (nine years ago) link

pointing out that Luke (and possibly Ben?) are the only English names in a series known for ridiculous names

Also Leia (a variant of Leah), Owen and Lobot.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Friday, 12 December 2014 13:03 (nine years ago) link

How many English people know someone called Poe?

Mark G, Friday, 12 December 2014 14:30 (nine years ago) link

http://www.teletubbies.co.uk/en/images/pic-meet-char-po.jpg

how's life, Friday, 12 December 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link

the internet is vast

Bringing the mosh (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 12 December 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link

I can;t see a single one of VegemiteGrrl's pics; not sure why she bothered, tbh

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Friday, 12 December 2014 23:42 (nine years ago) link

because like you i love frittering away my time on a messageboard

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 December 2014 23:57 (nine years ago) link

Don't link to Collider.

They posted them here:

http://www.starwars.com/films/star-wars-the-force-awakens-digital-trading-cards

Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Sunday, 21 December 2014 05:24 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/IJv4XKD.gif

What Is JJ Abrams Doing

, Sunday, 28 December 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link

._.

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 28 December 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link

star wars episode iv: a new boak

bizarro gazzara, Sunday, 28 December 2014 22:18 (nine years ago) link

Fake, there is no plumbing in the Star Wars universe

GUARD YOUR EARS!!! ...with Gorman's. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 29 December 2014 00:13 (nine years ago) link

han spewed first

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 29 December 2014 08:30 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

more good news

http://www.nme.com/filmandtv/news/george-lucas-disney-didn-t-use-my-ideas-for-new-st/368133

piscesx, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:34 (nine years ago) link

those lucas ideas in full:

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/145/380385105_7095bf7ed8_z.jpg?zz=1

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:41 (nine years ago) link

i watched "american graffiti" again recently, and i really think it's a marvel of popular filmmaking, and really well-directed. what happened to that dude?

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link

it's p obvious what happened

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 21:42 (nine years ago) link

He was finally able to afford those neck implants and they subsequently cut off his oxygen.

Ronald Raisins (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 21:49 (nine years ago) link

his obsession with FX really killed his genuinely good eye for imagery i think. there're some framing and shots in the first SW that are really excellent, particularly in the Tatooine scenes.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 21:56 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, and I was genuinely shocked at how good THX was when I watched it for the first time a couple of years ago.

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link

i think w/the first star wars films (esp the first and second) he was really inspired and imaginative w/r/t setting and using real-world terrain to create alien landscapes, but he later became devoted to either revisiting previously trod-upon ground bc of fan service or simply creating uncanny valleyish new worlds wholesale out of CGI.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:18 (nine years ago) link

he initially had a good eye for design and framing - it's everything else about filmmaking that was a problem for him. I'm not that enamored of THX-113 (a monumentally empty film with an incredibly deflated, stupid ending) or AG tbh.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:44 (nine years ago) link

i tried to watch ag but i think i may have seen too many of the coming-of-age films that followed it

da croupier, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:46 (nine years ago) link

in the same sense where if someone saw the matrix for the first time today, the action sequences - since normalized by countless other action films - would stick out less than the leatherwear

da croupier, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:46 (nine years ago) link

yeah I watched Diner first and it made AG unwatchable.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:48 (nine years ago) link

i think w/the first star wars films (esp the first and second) he was really inspired and imaginative w/r/t setting and using real-world terrain to create alien landscapes, but he later became devoted to either revisiting previously trod-upon ground bc of fan service or simply creating uncanny valleyish new worlds wholesale out of CGI.

― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:18 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah but how much does he really have to do with the second one? I mean if it weren't for Empire's imaginative scenes and great shots and character arcs and stuff, Star Wars would be this one gigantic hit movie, not a universe. Like Jaws or Jurassic Park where by and large the public forgets there even were sequels, and it's a distinct "movie" not a "universe" or w/e. I think Star Wars is totally fantastic in itself, a real blast to watch... not knocking Lucas's work on that one. Though I guess you could argue that he kind of lucked into awesome performances from Guinness, Ford and Jones, and without those it would probably be a much flatter space adventure picture, weighted so far towards effects and visuals that it's hard to watch for anything else.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 23:29 (nine years ago) link

The ads for the new Lucas fantasy movie look like he's finally made his dream of chittering, farting, bleeping wee imaginary creatures come true.

pelvic slang (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 22 January 2015 03:19 (nine years ago) link

Ah, I saw the commercial for that out of the corner of my eye and didn't realize he was involved.

american tail/american pie (how's life), Thursday, 22 January 2015 10:16 (nine years ago) link

'story by' then three other writers on the screenplay.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 22 January 2015 10:37 (nine years ago) link

Exec producer too.

pelvic slang (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 22 January 2015 10:52 (nine years ago) link

oh here we go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr9iLfD6xus

hoping the scene following the 'from the mind of george lucas' card was a deliberate choice by a less than admiring editor.

ledge, Thursday, 22 January 2015 14:40 (nine years ago) link

i watched "american graffiti" again recently, and i really think it's a marvel of popular filmmaking, and really well-directed. what happened to that dude?

― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, January 21, 2015 3:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he got divorced, estranged from his filmmaking posse, and got delusions of grandeur

mh, Thursday, 22 January 2015 14:43 (nine years ago) link

Ha! Sounds extremely plausible. xp

how's life, Thursday, 22 January 2015 14:44 (nine years ago) link

imo THX-1138 works because it's mostly empty, it's a very aesthetic film with no real meat and leans heavily on the visual design and Walter Murch's work

mh, Thursday, 22 January 2015 14:45 (nine years ago) link

"I was expecting something a little.... more." "What?" Amazing stuff.

jmm, Thursday, 22 January 2015 14:52 (nine years ago) link

That trailer does the thing where it cuts out the music to deliver a killer line like 8 times.

jmm, Thursday, 22 January 2015 14:52 (nine years ago) link

omg how LONG can a trailer be? what a disorganized pile of moments and bits.

the parts that make SENSE just make you not want to see the movie, as you just know the tedious fucking story beats it represents.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 22 January 2015 14:59 (nine years ago) link

27% on Rotten Tomatoes, but a surprisingly generous review from The AV Club, which calls it "the Moulin Rouge of animated features."

(NB: director Gary Rydstrom is a very close friend of Lucas, and a 7-time Oscar winner for his sound work.)

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 January 2015 15:09 (nine years ago) link

I saw a video of George Lucas on some morning show where he was (rightly) talking about how the Academy is garbage, he's not a member, how Hollywood needs diversity before movies can be rightly diverse and I was nodding...

...but cringing every 30 seconds because he had to mention RED TAILS constantly. I probably should watch that movie! But his plugging and "I get diversity... RED TAILS" was pretty much him to a t

mh, Thursday, 22 January 2015 15:19 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbbzaS8rcak

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 22 January 2015 15:34 (nine years ago) link

wish scorsese would grow back the beard

Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 January 2015 15:41 (nine years ago) link

wish lucas would grow enough beard to cover his neck

#Research (stevie), Thursday, 22 January 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link

But that's how he keeps track of where his jaw bone should be.

Evan, Thursday, 22 January 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link

His current beard that is:

http://i2.wp.com/blog.gadgetsandgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/George-Lucas-The-Ewok1.jpg?resize=%2C

Evan, Thursday, 22 January 2015 16:27 (nine years ago) link

"I get diversity... RED TAILS"

#grocerybag

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 16:40 (nine years ago) link

so this is Epic plus Arthur & The Invisibles except incredibly shit?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 January 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link

don't forget ferngully

breakfast josiah (los blue jeans), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:49 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

"galaxy"

jmm, Saturday, 14 February 2015 16:21 (nine years ago) link

Disney fostering disease transmission in a setting different than those recently publicized

Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Sunday, 15 February 2015 02:25 (nine years ago) link

Since joining Apple, Ive has occasionally taken on outside projects. In 2001, he created a white polystyrene box to house a book by Paul Smith. In 2013, an aluminum desk that Ive and Newson designed for the Project Red auction sold for $1.7 million. And Ive once sat next to J. J. Abrams at a boozy dinner party in New York, and made what Abrams recalled as “very specific” suggestions about the design of lightsabres. Abrams told me that “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” would reflect those thoughts, but he wouldn’t say how. After the release of the film’s first trailer—which featured a fiery new lightsabre, with a cross guard, and a resemblance to a burning crucifix—I asked Ive about his contribution. “It was just a conversation,” he said, then explained that, although he’d said nothing about cross guards, he had made a case for unevenness: “I thought it would be interesting if it were less precise, and just a little bit more spitty.” A redesigned weapon could be “more analog and more primitive, and I think, in that way, somehow more ominous.”

Number None, Monday, 16 February 2015 14:56 (nine years ago) link

https://vine.co/v/OJLnidqlPq2

JJ Abrams -_-

, Friday, 20 February 2015 13:29 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

The Star Wars universe is getting its first LGBT character added to the official canon with the release of author Paul S. Kemp's upcoming novel Lords of the Sith, Big Shiny Robot reports.

The character, known as Moff Mors, is described by the website as "an Imperial who has made some very serious mistakes," but is still considered to be "an incredibly capable leader and spends much of the book working hard to prevent absolute failure." It's noted that "[Moff Mors] also happens to be a lesbian."

did... did they have to call the lesbian character 'moff'

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 9 March 2015 13:06 (nine years ago) link

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Moff

how's life, Monday, 9 March 2015 13:08 (nine years ago) link

yeah that's not what i was getting at

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 9 March 2015 13:09 (nine years ago) link

At least they didn't make her a submarine commander

joygoat, Monday, 9 March 2015 13:21 (nine years ago) link

Moff Mons

mh, Monday, 9 March 2015 14:26 (nine years ago) link

Grand Moff Diver.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 9 March 2015 14:35 (nine years ago) link

this is the thread where I admit I have been watching Star Wars Rebels (the animated thing) and, while not really written as well as some of the Clone Wars episodes, had a pretty decent payoff

mh, Monday, 9 March 2015 14:36 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, Rebels started off slow, then pulled an Agents of SHIELD and went out strong for the season. Seems like the animation got better towards the end of the season, too.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Monday, 9 March 2015 14:59 (nine years ago) link

(spoilers) bringing back the best original character from the Clone Wars show was a good move

mh, Monday, 9 March 2015 15:38 (nine years ago) link

Star Wars creator George Lucas surprised employees at New York’s Midtown Comics in Times Square when he stopped by the store to pick up some new comics.

“He came in and was browsing the store, looking at the Star Wars stuff,” a Midtown employee told Page Six. “He was only in for about 15 minutes, his driver was waiting outside. Fans were pretty excited to see him and he signed a comic book. He was saying he hadn’t read any of the new Star Wars comics.”

Lucas apparently plans to change that, as he left the store with copies of Marvel’s new Star Wars, Darth Vader, and Princess Leia series, as well as some vintage Heavy Metal. You have to wonder what Lucas thinks of the new stories.

http://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2015/03/george-lucas-at-midtown-126821.jpg

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 18:44 (nine years ago) link

lol, i think i know that guy on the left
lucas lost a lotta weight! to get up that steep times square midtown comics stairway, he would kinda have had to.

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link

The first issue of the new "Star Wars" is actually really fun.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 19:39 (nine years ago) link

all of the comics so far are pretty decent imo!

mh, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link

I haven't seen any of them yet, mostly because I don't have quick and regular access to a comic shop at the moment. It also seems like Marvel has just completely disappeared from any chain stores, like all of the local Barnes & Nobles are just DC only. Did they scale back on their distribution or was there something else I missed?

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link

I just get mine via the Marvel app, so not sure what's going on with their hard copy distro. But yeah, all three titles are good!

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link

Leia a badass imo

mh, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link

cool, thanks.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link

Star Wars: Rogue One, starring Felicity Jones, directed by Gareth Edwards, written by Chris Weitz announced today: http://www.starwars.com/news/rogue-one-is-the-first-star-wars-stand-alone-film-rian-johnson-to-write-and-direct-star-wars-episode-viii

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link

It's a crazy day for announcements. Wow! God, I hope they're better lit than Godzilla.

how's life, Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link

Monsters was unmitigated crap and I didn't see Godzilla, so I am less than optimistic. Still, "Rogue" is an X-wing pilot call sign in the SW universe, so if we get like Star Wars Top Gun I will watch the hell out of it.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link

I really liked Monsters, but it's literally impossible to see Godzilla so of course you didn't.

how's life, Thursday, 12 March 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link

all 3 Marvel titles so far are HELLA fun. amping up my excitement for the film coming later this year in a big way.

jamiesummerz, Friday, 13 March 2015 16:23 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Yeah that's pretty impressive. Could do without the rawwwk guitar score personally but that's a minor quibble. These guys should be hired to do a SW series in this style.

Speaking of which -- I watched an episode of Star Wars Rebels with my little nephew last week (he's a fan) and I was surprised at how often it got the tone of the original films down.
Definitely entertaining.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 5 April 2015 21:38 (nine years ago) link

The guitar actual is central to it being 80s anime redux, much like the extreme zooms in & out of eyes or the million missile massacre

The Thin Blue Slime (kingfish), Monday, 6 April 2015 04:35 (nine years ago) link

actual guitar, rather

The Thin Blue Slime (kingfish), Monday, 6 April 2015 04:35 (nine years ago) link

Holy shit that makes me want to play TIE Fighter so bad

, Monday, 6 April 2015 10:57 (nine years ago) link

For real accuracy those star destroyers would have been turned 90 degrees to align the full array of their turbolasers on those Rebel ships

Also I don't remember capital ships having ion cannons but I guess why not, I don't think any of the normal TIE starfighters do and you need to capture the brass =)

, Monday, 6 April 2015 11:01 (nine years ago) link

SW I-VI being release as HD digital-only, available as a collection or individually: http://www.starwars.com/news/the-star-wars-digital-movie-collection-coming-april-10

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 12:07 (nine years ago) link

Still no original versions. Basically just the Blu-Ray set from a few years back.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 14:55 (nine years ago) link

Unfortunately yeah. I keep hearing things in the rumor mill that Disney wants to release the unspecialized originals, but there are a lot of roadblocks.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCutsh4WYAA5IBB.jpg

piscesx, Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link

I guess I don't have anything better to do this evening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UY64GfyovE

Number None, Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link

the slickness! putting TIDAL to shame this.

piscesx, Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link

BB8 was pretty cool tbh

Number None, Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link

yeah totes.

piscesx, Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:45 (nine years ago) link

wonder if Lucas is watching.

piscesx, Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:45 (nine years ago) link

worth it

Number None, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:07 (nine years ago) link

*goosebumps*

piscesx, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:08 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngElkyQ6Rhs

Number None, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:09 (nine years ago) link

if i'd known they were gonna be that prompt I might not have bothered lol

Number None, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:11 (nine years ago) link

The huge crashed spaceships in the desert are properly cool.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link

i was into it until the crystal skull flashback at the end

da croupier, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:23 (nine years ago) link

the Shia cameo was a surprise yeah

Number None, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link

harrison ford so old

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link

ford showing up was straight the teaser equiv of an edm drop

Clay, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:25 (nine years ago) link

i hope han has become an intergalactic antiquities procurer in his later years, that doesn't seem too far a transition from space pirate. short, round robot is already confirmed.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link

crashed star destroyers and melted vader helmet are the right kind of callbacks, imo, and actually well-designed and cool looking. like this could end up being not very good but at least it looks like fucking star wars and not just in an imitative way. it's pretty clear they let good people (designers etc.) push good ideas forward, and that already puts this just leagues ahead of the "george lucas vetoes and intimidates anybody with anything good on their sketchpad" feel of the prequels.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:27 (nine years ago) link

he says the force is strong in his family w/o talking about his mitochondrial midichlorians so this thing is already in the black if you ask me

goole, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link

I like the look of Lord Chrometrooper at 1:19.

jmm, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link

yeah i love the relatively tactile quality it has compared to the prequels, there's a straight-outta-childhood sense memory i get that's thrilling despite myself, but seeing harrison's modern, vaguely spaced-out mug just killed the magic - "oh right, this could be one of those horrible THE GANG'S ALL BACK" movies

da croupier, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link

"my father HAS it"?

nate woolls, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link

was chewie wearing mascara?

NotKnowPotato (stevie), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link

though speaking of shia it's a credit to the nu-cast that i never was like "get those little shits away from my toys!" before ford's howdy-do

da croupier, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:33 (nine years ago) link

i kinda wonder if it's episode viii i'll dig when jj gets replaced by rian and the old folks presumably shift further into the background

da croupier, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link

word is JJ's coming back for the third one though

Number None, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link

Maybe it's just wishful thinking but I sort of have the sense they're pretty background as it is... I mean getting a heavy presence in the trailer but I could totally see them as relatively bit parts, or at most like Yoda in Empire - totally key to the story, not shorted on scenes or anything, but not traveling around with our heroes and making throwback references every three lines or w/e. If nothing else, I just think Ford's too lazy for more than that.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link

he's also attempted to kill himself at least twice during filming

Number None, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link

I'm at Celebration right now and stayed up all night to go to that opening panel. Let me tell you, the new folks are properly excited to be part of this. Daisy Ridley looked overwhelmed, and John Boyega said he didn't tell his parents he'd been cast until that script reading photo came out, because he didn't think they'd believe him.

Watching that BB-8 operate is amazing. It's like a magic trick. You keep looking for the wires or mirrors.

The energy level in the room when they showed that trailer was unbelievable.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link

I am excited. Goosebumps is right. And yes old actors are old and so what? Nitpick away. It feels properly Star Wars.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:53 (nine years ago) link

xp must be amazing to be there. even at home it was incredible how they just switched to the proper HD/1080 trailer at the end of the panel stream on YouTube.
i was expecting it just to fade to black.

piscesx, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:54 (nine years ago) link

the idea of this taking place amidst the debris + ruins of the originals is p irresistible to me gotta say. like cyclopean masonry. or all the ruined towers/cities/monuments in lotr. doubt there'll be any kind of tech downgrade but wouldn't it be cool if there were. the badly used future. anyway, i'll go to see some shipwrecks. also the x-wing novels were the only star wars books i read as a kid so if "rogue one" is felicity jones as hotshot xwing pilot ummmmmmm well fuck.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 16 April 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link

That being said - quite the sense of all out DOOM in this one, no? Bet the bad guys are gong to be extra nasty to our fave characters.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 16 April 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link

"my father HAS it"?

― nate woolls, Thursday, April 16, 2015 2:30 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well spirit Anakin is still around right?

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 April 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link

doubt there'll be any kind of tech downgrade but wouldn't it be cool if there were

I would buy it - toppling the Empire brings freedom but not necessarily material improvements... splinter factions, ongoing civil war, supply lines are all screwed up, local capital is sketched out and plays it safe rather than investing in new planetary infrastructure, kessel runs are made on banks, galactic depression follows, etc. Trick is to pull it off without having it feel like the efforts of our heroes in the original trilogy were all for nothing.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link

"my father HAS it"?

― nate woolls, Thursday, April 16, 2015 2:30 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

!! didn't even catch this

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link

I hope there's some exploration of post-Imperial taxation on trade routes.

what are tbey going to do to keep the laughs coming (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:09 (nine years ago) link

"you kids are so spoiled - i used to BEG to get power converters, and I ask you to pick one up on your way back and you bitch!"

da croupier, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:19 (nine years ago) link

"you're a nerf herder just like your father"

da croupier, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:21 (nine years ago) link

The ruined Vader mask reminded me of Lecter's mask in Hannibal. I imagine I'm on my own in hoping that this new SW movie has some of Hannibal's wayward black comedy.

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link

chrometrooper looks like some of the crazy experimental armor prototypes from the Dark Forces video game

mh, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:37 (nine years ago) link

Goosebumps. I barely remember seeing Return of the Jedi in a long-since closed local theater, it had a cool neon Pac Man sign above the arcade.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:40 (nine years ago) link

anybody got some examples of a belated sequel that didn't suck? never saw color of money or blues brothers 2000

da croupier, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link

Carrie

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link

I was a bit surprised by "my father HAS it" too, but you know, ol' ghost Anakin loves to hang around parties, Luke's kids have probably have seen granpa's "vanishing act" magic trick on every birthday.

But speaking of Luke's kids, are we to assume the woman in the trailer is his daughter, the one he's talking to in the voiceover? Because even if Luke married a black woman, the Attack the Block guy doesn't look like he's his son, so I assume he's not related to the Skywalkers?

Tuomas, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link

you mean this, forks? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rage:_Carrie_2

da croupier, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link

anybody got some examples of a belated sequel that didn't suck? never saw color of money or blues brothers 2000

Before Sunset was 9 years after Before Sunrise, which I guess isn't *that* long, but I don't think anyone was expecting for a sequel, let alone for it to be as good as the original.

Tuomas, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link

And yeah, Color of Money is pretty great, though admittedly I've never seen the movie it's a sequel to.

Tuomas, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link

The Rescuers Down Under is the only one coming to mind that I've seen and can say is basically a fine movie, as good as the first in some ways, better in some, worse in others. I've heard defenses of The Two Jakes, enough that it's on my to-watch list. I heard OK things about Tron: Legacy, and people rave about Toy Story 3.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link

Toy Story 3 is brilliant, the best of three movies. And Tron Legacy was okay, but I don't think the original Tron is a masterpiece either, they're pretty much on the same level.

Tuomas, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:56 (nine years ago) link

doubt there'll be any kind of tech downgrade but wouldn't it be cool if there were

Abrams said in the panel that he wanted to tech to be even more used up in this movie.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link

Tron Legacy is straight garbage, at least the original was inventive and cutely humourous.

nashwan, Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:01 (nine years ago) link

I liked Goldeneye a lot when it came out.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:06 (nine years ago) link

xp A tech downgrade makes sense. I'm glad they thought of that. The galactic economy has to have declined a lot following the collapse of the core of the Empire.

jmm, Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link

After the collapse of the Trade Federation and the heavy fascism of the Galactic Empire, I can imagine only oligarchs have access to advanced technology and everyone else is fighting over scraps.

mh, Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link

A coupla shots looked straight out of KotOR so I'm happy.

Doktor Van Peebles (kingfish), Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link

Color of Money is pretty great, though admittedly I've never seen the movie it's a sequel to.

no, and it figures.

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:18 (nine years ago) link

oh man i hope the plot of this movie revolves around our heroes' efforts to rebuild the shattered Trade Federation, root out graft, and restore consistent inspection standards for interstellar produce shipments

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:18 (nine years ago) link

most definitely

also a side-quest where they have to seek out an old robot factory to repair R2-D2's rocket thrusters

mh, Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link

C3PO's skills with etiquette and protocol finally prove mightier than the Force, as it all comes down to an all-nighter negotiation over the future of spaceship part surpluses and the efforts of one Rebel faction to exploit Dagobah's abundant petroleum reserves.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link

Star Wars: Episode VIII: Tales of Fraud and Malfeasance in Stormtrooper Hiring Practices

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:52 (nine years ago) link

man how great would it be if ford/hamill/fisher/chewie are only in the movie for like 20 minutes before the ship they're on gets blown up by the new big bad guy

slam dunk, Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:54 (nine years ago) link

nothing about this is going to be great

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:56 (nine years ago) link

Color of Money /is pretty great, though admittedly I've never seen the movie it's a sequel to./

no, and it figures.

I've seen both and color of money is better and great. People got mad about a great director filming billiard balls and didn't give it the chance it deserved.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:58 (nine years ago) link

Tron Legacy is straight garbage, at least the original was inventive and cutely humourous.

Music was good. Cool motorcycle.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:59 (nine years ago) link

hoping just chewie dies and then the rest all yell "CHEWIE!" in unison at the explosion

da croupier, Thursday, 16 April 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link

then han notes that shit just got real

da croupier, Thursday, 16 April 2015 22:02 (nine years ago) link

New trailer is fine. We get that it's vader's helmet though, JJ

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 16 April 2015 22:02 (nine years ago) link

Watching that Celebration thing. I love the new cast, I'm pretty excited to see what they do. Also LOL @ Carrie Fischer she is always hilarious.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 16 April 2015 23:52 (nine years ago) link

They had the real soccer ball droid come out on stage it is pretty amazing feat of engineering. How does it work? Magnets?

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 16 April 2015 23:55 (nine years ago) link

dead star destroyer half buried in the desert was quite something. i hope that kind of thing is a pervasive backdrop throughout.

head clowning instructor (art), Friday, 17 April 2015 00:10 (nine years ago) link

Doing a death star 2 run through the engines of a ruined capital ship >>>>>>>>>>>

, Friday, 17 April 2015 01:15 (nine years ago) link

龜 can we meet somewhere to watch this when it comes out? I feel our shared SW knowledge and love would enhance the experience

mh, Friday, 17 April 2015 01:32 (nine years ago) link

Sure but I don't got no credits

, Friday, 17 April 2015 01:37 (nine years ago) link

I waited to watch the trailer bcz I didnt want to just peer at it on my phone

mr veg had it cued up on the big tv when i got home <3

fuck this was so rad, like more than i was hoping

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 April 2015 02:20 (nine years ago) link

ruined star destroyer on some ozymandias shit, so great

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 April 2015 02:20 (nine years ago) link

can imagine people capitalizing on the ruins of the war, living in and salvaging shit from starships crashed on to their planets

mh, Friday, 17 April 2015 02:27 (nine years ago) link

FLYING YR MILLENNIUM FALCON THROUGH RUINED SHIPS

omg

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 April 2015 02:28 (nine years ago) link

Oh you mean there's gonna be new jawas xp

, Friday, 17 April 2015 02:31 (nine years ago) link

I've seen both and color of money is better and great. People got mad about a great director filming billiard balls and didn't give it the chance it deserved.
--Matt Armstrong

Wtf. People didn't like it because it was mediocre sequel to a great film and it was before Scorcese turned to garbage. Filming billiard balls had dick to do with it. Next some moron will rep for Sting II.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 April 2015 02:46 (nine years ago) link

utinni!
xp

mh, Friday, 17 April 2015 02:50 (nine years ago) link

How does it work? Magnets?

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/050/566/abrams.jpg

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Friday, 17 April 2015 10:02 (nine years ago) link

nothing about this is going to be great

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 April 2015 22:56 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Haha keep fighting the fight, man.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 17 April 2015 10:14 (nine years ago) link

So how many teasers and trailers will be released before the main film? Will they leave anything left to surprise us? That's my concern anyway

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Friday, 17 April 2015 12:41 (nine years ago) link

that shiny (chrome?) stormtrooper in the cape looked way cool.

circa1916, Friday, 17 April 2015 13:16 (nine years ago) link

Will they leave anything left to surprise us?

If you haven't seen Carrie Fisher's work (done) in Maps to the Stars, I would say YES.

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 April 2015 13:42 (nine years ago) link

Mashable thinks it may be two connected but indpendently controllable robots: http://mashable.com/2015/04/16/star-wars-bb8-technology/?utm_cid=hp-hh-sec

Currently sitting in the Day 2 queue for a 10:30 am panel with EA previewing "Star Wars: Battlefront III." FINALLY.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Friday, 17 April 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link

http://io9.com/star-wars-costumes-and-props-reveal-new-characters-for-1698341539

Snowtroopers and....flametroopers?

Doktor Van Peebles (kingfish), Friday, 17 April 2015 16:49 (nine years ago) link

They're saving the Windtroopers and Earthtroopers and Spirittroopers for the next film.

what are tbey going to do to keep the laughs coming (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 April 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link

i assumed so?

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 April 2015 16:56 (nine years ago) link

did you guys forget we went over this soccer ball robot thing way upthread

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 April 2015 17:02 (nine years ago) link

tbh just been sitting here smugly about it

mh, Friday, 17 April 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link

Oh, yeah that is an upside down super star destroyer! Such a cool effect.

Evan, Friday, 17 April 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link

my whole confusion about the soccer ball robot was based on not being able to tell/see that the lower half was bisected

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 April 2015 17:22 (nine years ago) link

altho wait looking at that new clip it looks like it's *not* bisected? ok I have no idea how it works.

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 April 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link

:)

mh, Friday, 17 April 2015 17:25 (nine years ago) link

Shakey it's ok to not have opinions no one will judge u

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Friday, 17 April 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link

false i will judge u

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 17 April 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link

Reason why it's a big deal is previously we only saw it in that first trailer and this was a real-life and functional robot making its public debut yesterday.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 17 April 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link

caught an intern at work watching the trailer and asked him his take on the whole thing. he was pretty sure he'd seen the original trilogy first, though possibly all out of order - and definitely felt it was superior to the prequels, as any sensible person would. but his enthusiasm was way more tempered - not so much by the prequels, but by the fact that there were a whole bunch of blockbuster kid-oriented cross-promotional franchises when he was young. so he knew that jimmy kimmel and the dads of friends were shedding tears watching this thing, his pals were more "looks good, will check out." dude had no idea how novel the action figures were, or that some sad gen-xers saw episode one five times purely out of stockholm syndrome.

da croupier, Friday, 17 April 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link

when it wasn't called "Episode One" and ppl knew when to quit

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 April 2015 17:37 (nine years ago) link

it's crazy that, for instance, a twenty year old today was 6 when harry potter 1 came out

xpost morbs, i'm talking about "the phantom menace" - which was always called episode one. It's the original that some now call Episode Four

da croupier, Friday, 17 April 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link

you know what's insane is that a fifty year old today was like nine when nixon retired
it's like
TIME

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 April 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link

forks if you're tired of your peers acknowledging when time's passing feels bizarre in certain contexts, buckle up you're in a for a bumpy 2nd half of your life

da croupier, Friday, 17 April 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link

see, the whole numbering thing is a drag

Star Wars is now as old as Gone with the Wind was in 1977.
*BOOM*

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 April 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link

croup i'm pretty sure we're about the same age but tell me more about how strange it is that pop sensations of the nineties are like twenty-five years old now

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 April 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link

again, you should try to desensitize yourself this phenomenon before you hit 40

da croupier, Friday, 17 April 2015 17:54 (nine years ago) link

I think it's kinda weird that Terminator 3 is older now than Terminator 2 was when Terminator 3 came out, but only because TIME's march has made Arnold Schwarzenegger look just laughably implausible as an ageless killer robot in Terminator 5.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 17 April 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link

Wondering if someone perhaps compiled any kind of list or something that documents how long ago things of the 90s are.

Evan, Friday, 17 April 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link

March of Time Episode Eight: Nostalgia's Pull

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 April 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link

At the EA panel now. The battle that results in the crashed star destroyer in the trailer will be playable content in the new Battlefront two weeks before the movie opens.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Friday, 17 April 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link

That's nice and all, but how old is someone now if they were 5 when Saved By The Bell was on the air?

Evan, Friday, 17 April 2015 17:58 (nine years ago) link

It's crazy that some people who were 33 when the last Star Wars teaser trailer came out are now 34.

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Friday, 17 April 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link

dearest rebecca, forgive the lateness of my letter; it has been four star wars since last we spoke

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 April 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link

there's a real irony to complaining about someone acknowledging the passing of time on a star wars 7 thread

or wait, is that the problem

da croupier, Friday, 17 April 2015 18:09 (nine years ago) link

"man it's funny to realize how many franchises millennials grew up with compared to..."

"OMG GOOD SIR DO BE STILL"

da croupier, Friday, 17 April 2015 18:11 (nine years ago) link

lol, i swear dude there is really no circumstance under which you can post "yeah okay, i suppose people could see things differently; i'll let it go" is there

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 April 2015 18:12 (nine years ago) link

there are, but "lol that's stupid to care about" isn't one

da croupier, Friday, 17 April 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link

regardless of how you'd like to reframe it, "a twenty year old today was 6 when harry potter 1 came out" is kind of stupid to care about but seriously this is the sort of non-argument that you've made a name for yourself with and to join in is to lose

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 April 2015 18:17 (nine years ago) link

Just watched that Battlefront trailer, disappointed that no gameplay is shown.

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Friday, 17 April 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link

hey i just expressed a feeling about a fact, you're the one that made it into an argument

da croupier, Friday, 17 April 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link

are you guys reenacting the climactic volcano lightsaber duel from episode iii or what

Doctor Casino, Friday, 17 April 2015 18:20 (nine years ago) link

kinda probably

da croupier, Friday, 17 April 2015 18:21 (nine years ago) link

Just watched that Battlefront trailer, disappointed that no gameplay is shown.

― Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Friday, April 17, 2015 2:18 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They did say that is in-engine footage, though, so my expectations are high.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Friday, 17 April 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link

http://img.pr0gramm.com/2015/04/17/8b0cf9b3fe402a2c.jpg

Evan, Friday, 17 April 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link

xp

It was impressive for what it was I guess. I wonder if it would still have the single player mode.

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Friday, 17 April 2015 18:25 (nine years ago) link

xp LOL

schwantz, Friday, 17 April 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link

i was about to say "man they should try to revive spaceballs" but then i remembered they did

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaceballs:_The_Animated_Series

da croupier, Friday, 17 April 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link

"What's the matter Colonel Sanders? Chicken?"

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Friday, 17 April 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link

DAMN look at that model! It is so nice to see real spaceships again not CGI dreams.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 17 April 2015 19:21 (nine years ago) link

They are making "Spaceballs 2: The Search for More Money" last I heard.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 17 April 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link

they're still trying to write a Darth Maul double-lightsaber dick joke that works.

^^^ NOT METAL (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 17 April 2015 23:50 (nine years ago) link

"If you think my double lightsaber is impressive, you should see my dick!"

I Stepped On Your Samwich (Old Lunch), Saturday, 18 April 2015 00:12 (nine years ago) link

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Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 18 April 2015 16:32 (nine years ago) link

Heh

PFT rules

^^^ NOT METAL (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 19 April 2015 03:29 (nine years ago) link

If you're watching Star Wars Rebels on Disney XD, they released a season 2 trailer today. I got shut out of seeing the season 2 premiere early -- the queue line, for a 5:30 screening, was full to capacity by 2:45pm. I missed it by about 15 minutes. Anyway, shit's going down in season 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av8GjpGK98A

I did attend the panel this morning with the producers and voice cast. Freddie Prinze, Jr. hit the jackpot with this and he knows it.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Sunday, 19 April 2015 03:35 (nine years ago) link

How so?

Doktor Van Peebles (kingfish), Sunday, 19 April 2015 08:54 (nine years ago) link

Voicing a well-liked cartoon character means paid appearances at all kinds of events for decades, I'd guess

mh, Sunday, 19 April 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link

Freddie prinze jr became a writer for the wwe (or whatever they call it now) in the last decade. I think he may just be an enthusiastic nerd.

da croupier, Sunday, 19 April 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link

hopefully it's not just Fast and furious 8: in space

Arctic Noon Auk, Sunday, 19 April 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link

I wouldn't mind that

mh, Sunday, 19 April 2015 16:14 (nine years ago) link

A well-made action-adventure with a very diverse cast wouldn't be a bad role model, no.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 19 April 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link

I don't see a reason to believe that it wouldn't have enough depth, if that's what's being implied via F&F8 comment?

Evan, Sunday, 19 April 2015 17:59 (nine years ago) link

i have the same worry, cf: new trek movies

the late great, Monday, 20 April 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link

Everyone else already answered, but yeah, what I meant by Prinze hitting the jackpot is that he is clearly a huge nerd (he had several anecdotes during his panel about growing up a Star Wars fan, including one about the scar on his chin, which he got when he and his brother snapped a plastic flagpole in half to make lightsabers). And now he's on the inside of it and couldn't be happier. He came out from backstage taking video of the crowd on his phone, and was just beaming through the entire panel.

(Also fun: Tiya Sircar, who voices Sabine on "Rebels," used the words "serendipitously" and "trepidation" when answering questions. I can guess who always finishes the crossword while waiting around at the production office.)

We now know who's responsible for the BB-8 technology: http://time.com/3826420/bob-iger-star-wars-sphero/

And they appear to be making an official toy: http://toyland.gizmodo.com/is-this-our-first-look-at-spheros-official-the-force-aw-1698993843

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 13:49 (nine years ago) link

we can get one for shakey

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 13:53 (nine years ago) link

it'll be 'funny' if BB-8 turns out to be a Jar-Jar-like annoyance in the new film

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 14:34 (nine years ago) link

their animated division has been doing a decent job of scripting droids with personalities

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 14:45 (nine years ago) link

BB-8 speaks in a Jamaican patois and is known for constantly shitting everywhere.

Au Jus On My Dungarees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 14:47 (nine years ago) link

MJR-LZR-8

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 14:57 (nine years ago) link

Any film can do FF8: in space. Star Wars has the untouchable element and it should use it. Not just be a CGI pornsplosion fest, as much as it pioneered imagery. I always kept it in balance.

Arctic Noon Auk, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 15:40 (nine years ago) link

Super8 was so terrible and unimaginative I have no trust in JJBRAMS as competent.

Arctic Noon Auk, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 15:40 (nine years ago) link

Good set of photos from the small and mostly spoiler-free prop exhibit for Episode VII at Celebration, including two other new stormtrooper models: http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=15458

Two teasers and a convention in, we've yet to lay eyes on Adam Driver, Lupita Nyongo, Max Von Sydow or Andy Serkis. It's been all Ridley/Isaac/Boyega, so they must be the Leia/Han/Luke of the new deal.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 15:42 (nine years ago) link

we've yet to lay eyes on Adam Driver, Lupita Nyongo, Max Von Sydow or Andy Serkis

they're inside BB-8, pedaling furiously

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link

^ irl lol

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link

Being into Star Wars does not make you a nerd it's 100% dominant monoculture by now.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link

Let's just call it brand loyalty.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link

It's more Ridley = 'Luke'; Boyega = the 'Leia' character, by the look of it so far. The chemistry between the leads is going to be crucial if this film is going to be anything other than a purely visual spectacle.

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link

Boyega was really solid in Attack the Block IIRC, had a real "this guy is going to go places" feel for me. Haven't seen anything of Ridley's (pretty short) C.V., what's the word on the street? As I think I said above, I like that this cast is (veteran cast members aside) mostly fresh faces plus Von Sydow and Nyongo, perhaps in the Alec Guiness/Peter Cushing kind of positions.

Although now that I think about it that could also basically be said of the prequels - I had them in my head as involving more stunt casting, but Portman and McGregor were maybe at an Adam Driver level of exposure back then. So who knows.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link

McGregor was more famous than that I reckon - though maybe more so in the UK than elsewhere.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link

Ha, thinking about it TPM may be the film that first set Liam Neeson on the trajectory away from films where he does serious acting towards films where he kills a load of people and/or wolves.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link

yeah mcgregor was in some hit films and already a leading man, but like, that makes him no more a stuntcasting than alec guinness

da croupier, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link

samuel l jackson fits the term better than anybody though, esp with his proudly declaring he asked for a unique lightsaber for his nothing role

da croupier, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:33 (nine years ago) link

'he kills a load of people and/or wolves.'

Enh, he was always in genre pictures(Excalibur, Krull, Darkman), but I think the turn wasn't until made big money in Taken and the death of his wife to become the token Old White Action Guy for the early 21st-C.

Doktor Van Peebles (kingfish), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link

Until he made, rather

Doktor Van Peebles (kingfish), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link

lol Darkman

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link

after Trainspotting McGregor felt like a very much bigger name than Driver does now. but yeah UK only i guess.

piscesx, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link

naw, Trainspotting was kind of a cult hit in the US

I was thinking that Natalie Portman was more of a known name but being in The Professional/Heat probably only made her known among the "men professionally shooting things" film fans

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link

Although now that I think about it that could also basically be said of the prequels - I had them in my head as involving more stunt casting, but Portman and McGregor were maybe at an Adam Driver level of exposure back then. So who knows.

I feel like between The Professional and Mars Attacks!, Natalie Portman was more famous than this by the time Episode I came out but this is largely due to the types of entertainment I pay attention to

DJP, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:58 (nine years ago) link

lol I think we made the same post from different angles, Dan

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link

*hi-five*

DJP, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:05 (nine years ago) link

I'd completely forgotten Liam Neeson was in Krull.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link

Trainspotting was def a way bigger deal in the states than Attack the Block... but setting aside Jackson (who is barely in TPM, right?), Liam Neeson was probably the closest thing to a "household name" at that point, not for Krull or Darkman (which rules) but for Schindler's List (including Oscar nom).

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link

And Jake Lloyd for Jingle All The Way.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link

Remember all the kids at Halloween who were like, "I'm Jake Lloyd from 'Jingle All The Way?'"

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link

"I'm Not To Be Confused With Haley Joel Osment!"

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link

yeah but "stuntcasting" usually means grabbing big names for roles that don't need it, rather than grabbing a respected actor for a role that needs gravitas

da croupier, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stunt_casting

haha i actually had no idea peter cushing qualified (and i don't think gene hackman should - why SHOULDN'T Lex Luthor be a name?)

da croupier, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link

yeah I'm probably not using it correctly - at this point more than anything I think of bad animated or part-CGI films shellacked with guest stars animated to kinda look like them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxJZMK9S6yI

but probably that needs/has another name

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link

"sharktaleing" iirc

Number None, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:25 (nine years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stunt_casting

haha i actually had no idea peter cushing qualified (and i don't think gene hackman should - why SHOULDN'T Lex Luthor be a name?)

― da croupier, Tuesday, April 21, 2015 7:18 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That is a bad wrong terrible wikipedia page right there

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link

it's definitely a blurry line - like, is jack nicholson in Terms Of Endearment stuntcasting or just a strong supporting turn? In Broadcast News, is it stuntcasting or just a fun cameo? In a sense it's a slam - the implication that it's not really rewarding for the audience beyond the thrill of seeing a familiar face. That the role could have easily been played by a nobody, neither requiring a star presence nor potentially making a star of whoever played it. so yeah, in terms of star wars, sam jackson is easily the closest you get.

xpost and yeah i dunno if this is what you mean, but i know some people just say it means "notable person hired to get attention for movie." At which point though, any star is a stuntcast

da croupier, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:32 (nine years ago) link

Samuel L begged to be in the movie though so I'm not sure if it counts

Number None, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link

he was definitely enthusiastic, but it's not like he was a make-a-wish kid. from the pov of the makers his value was obviously stuntcasty

da croupier, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link

though tbf i've never seen part II so maybe his character has an arc there or something

da croupier, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link

no he just ends up looking increasingly pissed off and bored. Kind of an audience surrogate really

Number None, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link

haha

Bookmark No Bingus Permalink (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link

I actually feel bad for him and McGregor (especially when you see his initial boyish enthusiasm in the TPM making-of)

they had no idea what they were getting into

Number None, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link

He kills Boba Fett's dad, so there's that.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link

Brando in Superman is probably stunt casting since they had to pay him more than God and it was kind of a joke to him IIRC.

but Peter Cushing? Isn't that just a director using an actor he likes who was right for the role?

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link

a movie that kind of befuddles the concept is jfk - while loaded with big names in roles that wouldn't normally have them, all those characters get one big LOOK AT ME speech that would totally grab the audience (i.e. while the role of the gay convict informant didn't need to be played by a name like kevin bacon, anyone who yells in a movie about how fascism is coming back and how you don't understand because you've never fucked in the ass in a movie will get the audience's attention). the movie would actually make (even) less sense if no-names were constantly delivering hammy speeches.

tangent, i know. but i'm sure some news will get us back on course before long.

da croupier, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link

SW as pulp movie homage -> casting pulp horror icon as scary villain kind of stunty

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link

I mean, he did the same thing with Christopher Lee later

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link

yeah but brando goes back to what i was saying about every star turn being sutntcasting - "they had to pay him more than god it was kind of a joke to him" describes most movies he made

it's been a long time since i saw star wars so i can't remember if cushing had a lot to do or if he just stood around all prissylike

da croupier, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link

Alec Guinness was probably the showier casting decision tho

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link

it's been a long time since i saw star wars so i can't remember if cushing had a lot to do or if he just stood around all prissylike

― da croupier, Tuesday, April 21, 2015 7:53 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he blew up a planet and was really pleased about it. Sort of filled the role of the emperor.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link

yeah but brando goes back to what i was saying about every star turn being sutntcasting - "they had to pay him more than god it was kind of a joke to him" describes most movies he made

it's been a long time since i saw star wars so i can't remember if cushing had a lot to do or if he just stood around all prissylike

― da croupier, Tuesday, April 21, 2015 7:53 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk it was one of the first movies he did purely for the money right?

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link

James Earl Jones! not even on screen, pretty ridiculous casting

Cushing did some great scenery chewing in the "blowing up Alderaan" scene

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link

love this from the stunt casting wiki:

Stunt casting makes roles traditionally played by character actors unavailable to them.[2]

2. Commentary by Carlos Bernard on the season 3 episode "Day 3: 5:00 a.m. – 6:00 a.m." of 24

Number None, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link

The closest example of stuntcasting I can think of with respect to the Star Wars franchise was when they cast Jocelyn Wildenstein as Yak Face.

Honey Mustard On My Tunic (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link

Cushing casting mostly just Lucas connecting Star Wars directly to the b movie monster horror and fantasy heritage.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 20:15 (nine years ago) link

He's basically Dr. Frankenstein, sub Darth Vader for the Monster, and the Death Star for the castle laboratory.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link

now do Christopher Lee

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/deXK274SW58/hqdefault.jpg

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link

eVACuate? in our moment of triumph??

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link

also an a+ reading of "the regional governors now have direct control over their territories"; too bad he didn't live to class up trade embargo lines.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:18 (nine years ago) link

always liked how that little exchange sketches out this whole recent and soon-to-be-obsolete political system without showing us any of it. you got the whole republic -> empire plot in a nutshell. i'm sure the novels or something run the "regional governors" into the ground of course.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link

I don't know if Alec Guinness was stuntcasty so much as a bunch of 60s film-school types who'd seen Lawrence of Arabia too many times and wanting to grab as much from that as they could, like using older(cheaper) Panavision cameras, shooting in the desert, and Omar Sharif's look.

Doktor Van Peebles (kingfish), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 01:15 (nine years ago) link

Let's talk about the stunt intro text and stunt screen wipes.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 02:43 (nine years ago) link

Pretty much everything about the b movie was designed for sensationalism. Low budget roots necessitated eye-catching measures.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 02:44 (nine years ago) link

I enjoy the premise of this joke more than the execution*. It feels like it needs another pass thru for sharpening and ejection of too-easy jokes.

http://humboldt.craigslist.org/rvs/4986649886.html

humboldt >for sale >rvs - by owner

Imperial II-class Star Destroyer (Mad River)

"First come, first serve basis. You are responsible for towing."

*(or Executor, as it may be)

Doktor Van Peebles (kingfish), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 04:41 (nine years ago) link

Freddie prinze jr became a writer for the wwe (or whatever they call it now) in the last decade. I think he may just be an enthusiastic nerd.

― da croupier, Sunday, April 19, 2015 3:43 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wait really

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 24 April 2015 02:08 (nine years ago) link

Wait is wrestling nerdy now I thought it was for jocks

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 24 April 2015 02:30 (nine years ago) link

what world are you from? the biggest nerds I know are wrestling nerds

mh, Friday, 24 April 2015 02:40 (nine years ago) link

afaik the two biggest wrestling fans I've personally met (held up giant hand-painted signs on cardboard) are now a surgeon and an international economics lecturer/researcher

mh, Friday, 24 April 2015 02:43 (nine years ago) link

John D

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 24 April 2015 03:26 (nine years ago) link

currently dating a wrestling nerd and it rules. kept this from the beat the champ thread as i didn't want my enthusiasm to look contingent.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 24 April 2015 03:29 (nine years ago) link

I don't know if Alec Guinness was stuntcasty

It's called "getting a star." It helped sell the dopey Force.

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 April 2015 03:36 (nine years ago) link

kinda unrelated but I heard the guys on the Flophouse podcast summarize Star Wars as "old guy takes a young guy to a bar" and it made me lol

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 24 April 2015 03:47 (nine years ago) link

rolling (non-millenials) grabbing the brass ring 2015

about as nerdy as humanly possible

qualx, Friday, 24 April 2015 03:58 (nine years ago) link

I was being kind of jokey there. Wrestling is totally nerdy. I feel like the word 'nerd' has come from meaning someone persecuted for intellectual or physical differences to someone who enjoys x y z pop media.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 24 April 2015 05:26 (nine years ago) link

Like the reason original nerds were so into Star Wars and fantasy stuff was to escape their shitty lives.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 24 April 2015 05:27 (nine years ago) link

Alec Guinness, box office catnip XP

Yeah, it wasn't that long ago "nerd" and "geek" were insults

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 24 April 2015 06:17 (nine years ago) link

Josh Trank fired from the second spin-off movie

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/inside-a-star-wars-firing-792933

Number None, Saturday, 2 May 2015 14:12 (nine years ago) link

what the hell

Trank has several small dogs who were left in a rented house in New Orleans while the film was shooting there. According to sources, as much as $100,000 worth of damage was done to the property.

bizarro gazzara, Saturday, 2 May 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link

The high stakes being will Disney make all the money in the world or all the money in the solar system?

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 May 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link

Han Polo (shirt)

nashwan, Sunday, 3 May 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link

High stakes = can they stave off "Star Wars 8 shit talk"

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 3 May 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link

And Lupita Nyongo in a mo-cap suit.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Monday, 4 May 2015 12:30 (nine years ago) link

^^^
Proper Star Wars

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 4 May 2015 13:46 (nine years ago) link

Includes at least two classic Star Wars aliens, an Ithorian second from left, and one of the dude's from Jabba's palace near the right, next to the guy in red.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Monday, 4 May 2015 14:01 (nine years ago) link

evil dark really really bad adam in a snowscape followed by nu-snowtroopers is really cracking me up

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 May 2015 14:19 (nine years ago) link

I'm parsing him as Imperial middle management jobsworth rather than evil dark really really bad.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 4 May 2015 14:26 (nine years ago) link

I hope this is really good and everyone rubs it in Lucas's face for the rest of his life (in regards to the prequels of course)

Evan, Monday, 4 May 2015 14:29 (nine years ago) link

I love that. The chrome makes it look like a sci-fi medieval suit of armour.

jmm, Monday, 4 May 2015 16:08 (nine years ago) link

Game of Star Thrones

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 4 May 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link

HBO's Rome in Space

resulting post (rogermexico.), Monday, 4 May 2015 17:22 (nine years ago) link

Brienne of Darth

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Monday, 4 May 2015 18:23 (nine years ago) link

lol

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 4 May 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link

So Josh Trank got fired from the 2nd spinoff movie that they hadn't even started yet

akm, Monday, 4 May 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link

very publicly too.. he fucked up. hell hath no fury like a studio scorned.

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 4 May 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link

Something about dogs messing up the house fox was renting for him?

how's life, Monday, 4 May 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/inside-a-star-wars-firing-792933

Indeed, producers on Fantastic Four, set for release July 30, are said to have faced great challenges pulling the film together given behavior described by one insider as “erratic” and at times “very isolated.” Trank did not offer clear direction, this person adds, saying, "If you've got someone who can't answer questions or who isn't sure or is in hiding, that's not good."

A Fox spokesman says the studio is “very happy with the movie and we can’t wait for audiences to see it” but acknowledges, “There were definitely some bumps in the road.”

Among those bumps: Trank has several small dogs who were left in a rented house in New Orleans while the film was shooting there. According to sources, as much as $100,000 worth of damage was done to the property. A source says the production considers any destruction of the property to be Trank's responsibility.

Citing Trank’s work on the 2012 found-footage superhero movie Chronicle, an insider says: “No question there’s talent there. You can’t do Chronicle by accident.” But Trank seemed “like one of these kids who comes to the NBA with all the talent and none of the character-based skills to handle it. There’s equipment he doesn’t yet have.”

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Monday, 4 May 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link

man, to lose a star wars movie cuz your dogs shit all over a house

akm, Monday, 4 May 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link

It sounds like he mostly got fired because he couldn't finish Fantastic Four filing on-time and the actors keep getting yanked back in from the movies they moved on to to re-shoot scenes

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 4 May 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link

i mean "filming", the filing by all accounts was fair

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 4 May 2015 19:01 (nine years ago) link

Yeah I assume FF is overbudget and shitty.. and the one low blow detail they can leak about going over budget is the 100k in dog shit line item

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 4 May 2015 19:14 (nine years ago) link

That's Hollyweird for ya!

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Monday, 4 May 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link

Trank has several small dogs who were left in a rented house in New Orleans while the film was shooting there. According to sources, as much as $100,000 worth of damage was done to the property

$100,000?!?!!?

Karl Malone, Monday, 4 May 2015 19:20 (nine years ago) link

I'm sure the landlord came up with that estimate.

It would be cool to see a movie about several small dogs doing $100k damage to a house.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 May 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link

darth paws

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 May 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link

According to sources, Trank was sometimes indecisive and uncommunicative. Producers Simon Kinberg and Hutch Parker had to step in to help pull the film together, though sources stress that Trank was still on set and directing the film. (Were that not the case, the production could have run afoul of the Directors Guild of America.)

Just over three months from opening, Fox’s Fantastic Four has done re-shoots. Those were complicated because stars Miles Teller, Kate Mara and Michael B. Jordan had obligations on other films. The most recent round, which involved three days of re-shoots at the end of April, had to take place on weekends because of Teller’s work on Todd Phillip’s Arms and the Dude. Parker and Kinberg are said to have been heavily involved in those re-shoots, pulling them away from duties in Canada on X-Men: Apocalypse, which they also are producing.

Given the issues with Trank’s performance, the production added Stephen Rivkin (Avatar) to help pull the film together. Trank had hired his Chronicle editor, Elliot Greenberg, on the project.

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 4 May 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link

So what's the over/under on Trank being a Marvel Studios mole?

More Fetid Than Fêted (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 May 2015 20:18 (nine years ago) link

I'm sure there was a passage in the Art of War about how to handle a rival who's making a pointless reboot to retain rights to a property that you want for yourself.

More Fetid Than Fêted (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 May 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link

i hope my favorite alien, amanaman, shows up
http://s419.photobucket.com/user/sithman_01/media/autographs/CopyofautographE6Amanaman.jpg.html

slam dunk, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 01:33 (nine years ago) link

http://www.bogleech.com/images/amanaman1.jpg

slam dunk, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 01:34 (nine years ago) link

the last SW figure I ever bought

SCHLITZ MIXED BAG (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 02:39 (nine years ago) link

i loved that guy and his funky accessory

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 02:42 (nine years ago) link

re-shoots at the end of April, had to take place on weekends because of Teller’s work on Todd Phillip’s Arms and the Dude

hey guys Teller already shot that movie, they ended up calling it Whiplash

fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 03:35 (nine years ago) link

breaking news guys: Josh Trank got fired from another Star Wars spinoff

( who ALSO my boss and his sister!) (sic), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 07:12 (nine years ago) link

you guys see the Vanity Fair pics? holy shit.

piscesx, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 18:39 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

andy serkis confirmed to be playing 'supreme leader snoke', contuining grand tradition of fucking ridiculous star wars names

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 29 May 2015 10:16 (eight years ago) link

i hope his second in command is called schneef

Jim Gillette's unused octave (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 29 May 2015 10:53 (eight years ago) link

Sometime wonder if Lucas had never actually met anyone called Luke, just threw it in as another wacky name.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 29 May 2015 10:55 (eight years ago) link

i'm just hoping to hear some good jizz

difficult listening hour, Friday, 29 May 2015 11:02 (eight years ago) link

call me a traditionalist but I prefer classic hot jizz to cool or free jizz

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 29 May 2015 13:02 (eight years ago) link

Follow the snoke to sith-filled land.

how's life, Friday, 29 May 2015 13:05 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/G2xiDFA.jpg

, Sunday, 7 June 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link

hm

jennifer islam (silby), Sunday, 7 June 2015 17:41 (eight years ago) link

Serkis in motion capture + "Snoke" maybe = a lizard/reptile type villain? Would be innerestink.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 7 June 2015 22:49 (eight years ago) link

Supreme Leader Skink

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 7 June 2015 22:50 (eight years ago) link

Would be innerestink.

why

( who ALSO my boss and his sister!) (sic), Sunday, 7 June 2015 23:15 (eight years ago) link

Why? Because visually cool. Nothing more or less.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 8 June 2015 00:59 (eight years ago) link

Oh man I hope he's one of the Swimming People of Dellait

Jim Gillette's unused octave (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 8 June 2015 02:30 (eight years ago) link

Star Wars Rebels is back on!

Their Darth Vader portrayal, so much more powerful than any Jedi left, so good.

Upright Mammal (mh), Sunday, 21 June 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://www.starwars.com/news/christopher-miller-and-phil-lord-to-helm-han-solo-anthology-film

I worry these guys are spreading themselves too thin

Number None, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 20:38 (eight years ago) link

hopefully starring channing tatum and jonah hill as chewbacca and han solo, respectively.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 22:35 (eight years ago) link

i kind of like the idea of a million "star wars" films made in widely varying styles and tones

maybe gaspar noe can make a film about the fleshpits of tatooine

david cronenberg can make one about people who like to have sex while crashing spaceships into each other

etc

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 22:37 (eight years ago) link

this is gonna be like the marvel films shortly where i'm three behind isn't it

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 03:32 (eight years ago) link

And you can re-create the plot of the ones you missed by mashing action figures together.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 03:36 (eight years ago) link

"hopefully starring channing tatum and jonah hill as chewbacca and han solo, respectively."

this would be amazing

akm, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 03:37 (eight years ago) link

reverse that and I'll buy tickets right now

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 03:45 (eight years ago) link

:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTNJ51ghzdY

Number None, Saturday, 11 July 2015 11:09 (eight years ago) link

kinda hilarious how almost every line of that seems like they had to quickly cut away to omit an "... unlike the prequels!"

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 11 July 2015 15:02 (eight years ago) link

I have high hopes, I guess, but JJ Abrams often disappoints. At least Damon Lindelof is not involved.

schwantz, Saturday, 11 July 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5W8EBHNsLc

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 11 July 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Big article and tons of photos in EW. Maybe they're sort-of-kind-of doing the Jacen Solo story after all?

Remember how we eventually learned that “Darth” is not a first name, but a kind of title? It appears the surname “Ren” is something similar.

“He is a character who came to the name Kylo Ren when he joined a group called the Knights of Ren,” Abrams says. But that’s as far as the writer-director will go. What are the Knights of Ren? You’re going to have to wait until Dec. 18 to find out.

“He is not your prototypical mustache-twirling bad guy,” Abrams offers. “He is a little bit more complex than that, and it was a great joy to work with Adam Driver on this role, because he threw himself into it in a deep and remarkable way.”

There are many implications to this piece of Kylo Ren’s history. If he had a different name before aligning with these mysterious knights, maybe we’ve heard it before. Maybe we know… his parents?

We’re definitely going to have to wait for that.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 15:03 (eight years ago) link

No mustache-twirling bad guys pls the Star Wars are known for their subtle and nuanced villains. /s

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 16:14 (eight years ago) link

The second trailer has my hopes up but Abrams is generally such a hack and while pretty good at setup, he's so terrible at finishing stories.

nomar, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 16:18 (eight years ago) link

I thought Darth was short for Dark Lord of the Sith

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 16:22 (eight years ago) link

Scholars disagree on that, apparently.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth

jmm, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 16:27 (eight years ago) link

Kylo Ren's facemask looks like an aluminum can to me, but otherwise the released shots look pretty cool.

five six and (man alive), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link

I like it, resembles a 30's pulp villain or something.

I'm genuinely impressed with the look of what we've seen in trailers so far.

latebloomer, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 21:59 (eight years ago) link

Colin Tervorrow confirmed to direct Episode IX

Number None, Saturday, 15 August 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link

that name is extremely difficult to type for some reason

Number None, Saturday, 15 August 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link

That's his Jedi name, right?

a poetic ODE to FORNICATION (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 15 August 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link

http://a.dilcdn.com/bl/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2015/08/rogue-one-cast-photo-d23-1024x682.jpg

Are you ready for Star Wars to be completely drained of all color?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 15 August 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link

For a photo shoot, perhaps, but all the trailer footage we've seen indicates the opposite.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 15 August 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link

that's from Rogue One

glad to see Connect Four exists in the Star Wars universe

Number None, Saturday, 15 August 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link

oh and Mads Mikkelsen's in it

Number None, Saturday, 15 August 2015 20:38 (eight years ago) link

Donnie Yen!!!

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 15 August 2015 20:59 (eight years ago) link

xxp pretty sneaky, Sith

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Saturday, 15 August 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link

i just liked that post 5000 times in my mind

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 15 August 2015 23:57 (eight years ago) link

Lol phil

Οὖτις, Sunday, 16 August 2015 00:41 (eight years ago) link

itt: Phil D. justifies the existence of ILX

resulting post (rogermexico.), Sunday, 16 August 2015 04:37 (eight years ago) link

omg

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 16 August 2015 04:44 (eight years ago) link

One day we shall see the cinematic representation of Kyle Katarn

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Sunday, 16 August 2015 08:50 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQDvsf5lAp0

, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 12:21 (eight years ago) link

yessss

Upright Mammal (mh), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 14:07 (eight years ago) link

hahahahahahaha

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 14:47 (eight years ago) link

Take it to Star Wars 6 shit talk.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 15:50 (eight years ago) link

idg phil joke :(

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link

lol I remember it more from this @ 1:45

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UalV4ThhQQM

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 24 August 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link

Oh yep

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 August 2015 17:49 (eight years ago) link

Man, I should have known not to google "what was up with that werewolf in the star wars cantina" and expect any fewer than 40 paragraphs.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lak_Sivrak

how's life, Thursday, 27 August 2015 12:10 (eight years ago) link

ok I won't ruin it for anyone but died laughing just now reading about wolfy's romance w/ dice ibegon as fugitives from the empire, w/ ibegon dying at the battle of hoth and wolfy fighting on to honor her memory and then wondering 'wait, which one was dice ibegon?' and finding out that 'o, that was dice ibegon.'

balls, Thursday, 27 August 2015 13:50 (eight years ago) link

Hot werewolf on lamprey action.

Herbie Mann's Push Push Pops (Old Lunch), Thursday, 27 August 2015 13:53 (eight years ago) link

The survivors of the Battle of Endor held a victory party along with the local species, the Ewoks. During it, a ghost-like, semi-transparent, bright Force spirit of Lak Sivrak met Dice Ibegon's. They joined, paw in tail, and walked to meet three other friends [Anakin, Obi-Wan, Yoda] that were waiting for them.[3] Ibegon and Sivrak were together again, their spirits shining in the Force.[1]

The spaces just off-camera in the original trilogy must be crammed with expanded universe plots.

jmm, Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:00 (eight years ago) link

i feel like creators of expanded universe stories were using star wars as an outlet for their intensely weird fantasies

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:02 (eight years ago) link

I had Tales from the Cantina or w/e and the bounty hunter short story collection when they came out. There were... some interesting ones.

There is some weird species that looks humanoid but has tendrils that allow them to drink brains. The inner dialogue of that dude was mostly talking about the "soup" of others, meaning... brain juices.

ugh ugh

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:09 (eight years ago) link

Haha, yeah, this dude:

http://www.ffurg.com/casting_call/25th/jerriko.jpg

The tendrils are supposed to grow out of their cheeks. Later, the comics writers and EU writers used them a lot: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Anzat_(species)

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:14 (eight years ago) link

xp

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:15 (eight years ago) link

"...she then turned to him and seductively offered to buy him a drink..."

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dice_Ibegon?file=Dice_ibegon.jpg

jmm, Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:26 (eight years ago) link

http://rpggamer.org/uploaded_images/Lamproid1.GIF

jmm, Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:27 (eight years ago) link

hubba hubba

Not to beat a moribund horse (stevie), Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link

Ultimate derp face.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link

Face like a goatse.

Herbie Mann's Push Push Pops (Old Lunch), Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link

She eventually met Lak Sivrak—known to most as only Sivrak—a secretive Shistavanen Wolfman fugitive who had slain a group of Imperial troops. Although he and Ibegon had markedly different body structures, Sivrak found the Lamproid extremely attractive, and Ibegon made efforts to seduce him, buying the Shistavanen a drink and inviting him to sit with her.

DON'T. BE. SCARED. cuz i'm [not] yr body tyyYYYyype

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:03 (eight years ago) link

also i love the passport-style photo and matter-of-fact caption a third of the way down the dice ibegon article

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:03 (eight years ago) link

I need a script to remove wookieepedia links because I will go down a wormhole/Sarlacc pit and spend all day reading about fuckin Hammerhead's adventures as an intergalactic pimp or whatever.

We Boo... The Cross (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link

i miss the pre-rerelease pre-internet days when i thought star trek fans were much bigger nerds than star wars fans

balls, Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link

At what age did you have access to Usenet?

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Friday, 28 August 2015 06:16 (eight years ago) link

not only is it a completely feasible practical effect, you can have your own soccer ball droid at home (in miniature version)

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 3 September 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link

An army of those things just rolling across the floor at you

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Thursday, 3 September 2015 19:06 (eight years ago) link

National Trust of Ireland starting Star Wars 8 shit talk:

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/sep/10/star-wars-returns-to-skellig-michael

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 10 September 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link

Picked up the first of the "Shattered Empire" comics series, released last week, which begins concurrent with and right after the end of Return of the Jedi. There is a husband/wife couple who get biz-zay -- thoroughly and completely -- during the Endor celebration, named Shara Bey and Kes Dameron. Oscar Isacc's character in The Force Awakens is named Poe Dameron, so I assume there's some connection.

Meanwhile, standalone movie Rogue One filming in London, TMZ has photos of some kind of crash site w/stormtrooper bodies around it: http://www.tmz.com/2015/09/15/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-set-photos/

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Monday, 21 September 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link

All the new Marvel Star Wars comix are pretty good, including Leia, Lando, Darth Vader and Star Wars

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 September 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link

The other day I was in Target, and virtually everything in the store made a Star Wars noise, from the automatic front doors (you use the force to open them, says a sign, har har) to the apple bin, which triggered a nearby wookie growl.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 September 2015 14:58 (eight years ago) link

xp the Vader comic is the best of the bunch for me. I want those two psycho droids to get their own series after this.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Monday, 21 September 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link

Max von Sydow “will portray a village elder on the desert planet of Jakku who plays a vital role in the quest to find the missing Luke Skywalker,” reports the Guardian‘s Ben Child. “His name? Lor San Tekka.”

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/sep/25/max-von-sydow-plays-lor-san-tekka-star-wars-force-awakens

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 September 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link

Still from the set

http://i62.tinypic.com/2dh79ms.jpg

jimmy falloff (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 26 September 2015 04:19 (eight years ago) link

is lor san tekka a reference to something, that seems like a funny way to reveal the name otherwise

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 1 October 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link

The other day I was in Target, and virtually everything in the store made a Star Wars noise, from the automatic front doors (you use the force to open them, says a sign, har har) to the apple bin, which triggered a nearby wookie growl.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, September 21, 2015 9:58 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ugh, I really fucking hate the way Disney is playing the marketing of this. I was at a Mets game a few weeks ago and there was so much Star Wars bullshit it was ridiculous, scattered throughout the entire game in between play.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 1 October 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link

Like they're kind of starting to kill off in advance any goodwill they had earned from me by trying to correct past star wars wrongs.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 1 October 2015 21:11 (eight years ago) link

the youtube ads w dads talking to their toddlers about star wars are the worst

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 1 October 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link

He's a village elder, probably wise and ascetic and whatnot, maybe it's supposed to resemble Lore Sans Tech.

jmm, Thursday, 1 October 2015 21:20 (eight years ago) link

xp yeah those too -- it was almost like by advertising to me this bad approximation of how I feel about star wars it made me just want to feel less that way

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 1 October 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link

"lor san tekka" is an anagram for Okra Anklets, feel like this is a clue.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Thursday, 1 October 2015 21:26 (eight years ago) link

i'm enthused about SW because my four year old is excited about it, but he's learning about it in a vacuum and the context is preschool conversations. i've heard a lot about how "luth skywalker" and "dark mater" are battling the bad guys.

"who's the bad guy?"

"BATMAN"

nomar, Thursday, 1 October 2015 21:27 (eight years ago) link

this is precisely why disney purchased star wars... new generations to inculcate. (grown) fanboys are not the primary audience.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 1 October 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link

I have to say though that as a parent of a 10 month old son I'm pleased that he might come of age in an era when Star Wars is the massive pop culture juggernaut for kids to obsess over instead of shit like Transformers or a bunch of Marvel characters I never really cared about.

joygoat, Friday, 2 October 2015 00:46 (eight years ago) link

cosine

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 October 2015 05:30 (eight years ago) link

I think any childhood that doesn't involve both trying to lift things with your mind AND making "ch ch ch ch" sounds while pretending to turn into a car is an impoverished one.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 2 October 2015 14:18 (eight years ago) link

instead of shit like Transformers or a bunch of Marvel characters

I don't really get how SW is superior to these other garbage franchises

Οὖτις, Friday, 2 October 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link

they all seem equally banal and vapid to me, it's not like one reinforces values the other doesn't or teach children anything valuable, they're just money making vehicles featuring explosions

Οὖτις, Friday, 2 October 2015 16:14 (eight years ago) link

More toys.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 2 October 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

You're totally not wrong, these are just my personal biases here. Never cared about comic books for some reason but loved the shit out of Star Wars when I was growing up.

My main beef with Transformers is that when I was a kid I thought they were really stupid because why in the world would alien robots need to turn into cars? And why were a gun and a walkman the same size as jet planes? The scale was way off and the premise was stupid and seemed to defy the laws of physics.

joygoat, Friday, 2 October 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link

unlike everything in Star Wars, which totally does not defy the laws of physics ever

Οὖτις, Friday, 2 October 2015 19:42 (eight years ago) link

I know this is kind of corny but I actually think the original Star Wars trilogy introduces some pretty high-minded concepts about morality, mindfulness, spirituality, etc. in a way that a young audience can grasp. I think this is something that gives it a little bit of an edge over Transformers.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 2 October 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link

care to elaborate? Ethical or political subtext of og trilogy eludes me. I guess the rebels don't blow up a planet (they do blow up an entire space station of comparable size)

Οὖτις, Friday, 2 October 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link

not a lot of non-humans in the empire

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 2 October 2015 19:59 (eight years ago) link

"Fear is the mind-killer." - Yoda

Famous Monsters of ILM-land (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link

seedy gambler/rogue guy ends up fighting for a cause, showing that the lines between bad/good and criminal/law-abiding aren't necessarily directly related
acknowledgment of non-corporeal "force" that binds all things in the galaxy
repeated plot point that rebels with a strong ideology can fight against the tyranny of a militaristic state
responsibility to others / self-sacrifice (obi wan's moment of peace when he allows himself to be struck down rather than fighting to the death)

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link

lol Old Lunch

but yeah, the fear -> anger -> hate progression is definitely a spiritual maxim

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link

rebels with a strong ideology

what ideology

Οὖτις, Friday, 2 October 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link

seedy gambler/rogue guy ends up fighting for a cause, showing that the lines between bad/good and criminal/law-abiding aren't necessarily directly related
this is such a standard trope of genre fiction (take yr pick of genres) idk if it's really a credit or unique in any way

acknowledgment of non-corporeal "force" that binds all things in the galaxy which is also evil depending on which side of it you're on!

responsibility to others / self-sacrifice (obi wan's moment of peace when he allows himself to be struck down rather than fighting to the death) could be argued that obi-wan does it just so he can become even more powerful/live forever as a magical ghost = self-interest

Οὖτις, Friday, 2 October 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link

Ultimately the thing that really sets apart Star Wars (the original trilogy) from stuff like Transformers and Marvel is that it has far superior set design, which may seem a minor thing for some people, but makes a world of difference to me personally.

silverfish, Friday, 2 October 2015 20:10 (eight years ago) link

yeah dude I didn't say they weren't incredibly standard and I'm sure over the course of all of the Transformers episodes those points were hit but as a whole Star Wars is a pretty simplified movie structure that has all these things

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link

Ethical or political subtext of og trilogy eludes me.

responding to that, not "what does SW have that nothing else has"

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link

Power of hate to consume a person (and the strength of the temptation to hate and the benefit of resisting that temptation), self-development through meditation, etc., IDK I thought this shit was kind of obvious so I don't know why I'm explaining it to someone who is challopping/being obtuse/trolling

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link

when obi-wan says he will become more powerful when he is dead he is referring to radicalizing luke, not special ghost powers, imo

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link

they even treated some dumb forest teddy bears as equals, which ended up benefiting them

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link

ok lol

Οὖτις, Friday, 2 October 2015 20:17 (eight years ago) link

Power of hate to consume a person (and the strength of the temptation to hate and the benefit of resisting that temptation), self-development through meditation, etc.

yeah these are cool I guess

Οὖτις, Friday, 2 October 2015 20:18 (eight years ago) link

I mean it's not Gandhi but it seems a cut above the typical sci-fi/action children's movie.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:21 (eight years ago) link

how different people treat droids is pretty integral

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:21 (eight years ago) link

yeah it's not the deepest thing in the world but like all the stuff about the force in Empire is way more thought-provoking (even just on an imagination level) (but also on an ethical level) than most movies I got into as a kid. Just the idea that Yoda is very strenuously trying to keep Luke from doing what seems to him and to the audience like obviously the heroic thing to do - - - in fact that this kind of zealous, well-intentioned action is what defines the "dark side" that claimed his father... that's super cool. I also, and this is less directly about ethics, but while the Force has been banalized by the prequels and spinoffs, there's still something wonderful about Yoda's new age presentation of it. I mean I wasn't seeing a lot of stuff at age 10 where someone says "Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force around you; here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere, yes. Even between the land and the ship." That's great! Like you leave the theater with something kind of weird to ponder, and not just CGI exploding at your face.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:22 (eight years ago) link

the rebels obviously have incredible patience and some sort of workplace inclusion policy, only possible explanation for why c3po is kept around

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:22 (eight years ago) link

btw the empire has much better style and iconography, as fascists often do

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:23 (eight years ago) link

Ultimately the thing that really sets apart Star Wars (the original trilogy) from stuff like Transformers and Marvel is that it has far superior set design, which may seem a minor thing for some people, but makes a world of difference to me personally.

― silverfish, Friday, October 2, 2015 1:10 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is otm. not really into the antiseptic paramilitary world of marvel movies, the good bits of thor aside (and probably guardians of the galaxy, which i didn't see, also aside). have never gotten bored of looking at or listening to star wars (exceptions, finally ruined by commercial ubiquity: never need to hear a lightsaber again, or r2d2) even tho i have gotten bored of thinking about it.

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link

"luminous beings are we, not this crude matter" will be the absolute last line in star wars i come to feel superior to

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link

and the little illustrative pinch he takes of luke!

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link

Yoda being mischievous is sorely missed in the dumb prequels. He can be funny!

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:30 (eight years ago) link

it was an ok twist to have him actually be strong in combat but only as a counterpoint to "Wars not make one great"

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link

"Mudhole? Slimy? My home this is!"

jmm, Friday, 2 October 2015 20:42 (eight years ago) link

he was an instructor of lightsaber combat at the jedi temple!

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:43 (eight years ago) link

i like "how you get so big, eating food of this kind"

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link

his disses were so good

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:46 (eight years ago) link

his early sets at the Chuckle Hut slayed

Οὖτις, Friday, 2 October 2015 20:47 (eight years ago) link

Yoda's flat, dull dialogue in the prequels make the scrambled syntax so annoying.

jmm, Friday, 2 October 2015 20:49 (eight years ago) link

AROUND THE SURVIVORS A PERIMETER CREATE.

dredging the x-wing in empire is still pretty special imo. genuinely stirring moments in blockbuster fx bombast. and then after that, yoda's crowning diss.

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link

also the puppet's facial expression when he thinks for a moment luke might succeed is terrific.

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Friday, 2 October 2015 20:55 (eight years ago) link

AROUND THE SURVIVORS A PERIMETER CREATE

haha, Yoda is a terrible battlefield commander, all his orders take way too long to say and interpret correctly when the main verb comes way at the end

it's also annoying that they took this occasional linguistic tic of his from the old movies, and then made sure that every single sentence he spoke in the prequels used this structure

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Friday, 2 October 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link

"they"

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Friday, 2 October 2015 21:06 (eight years ago) link

George Lucas and his massive goiter

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Friday, 2 October 2015 21:09 (eight years ago) link

btw the empire has much better style and iconography, as fascists often do

― μpright mammal (mh), Friday, October 2, 2015

Actually this is a great socratic teachable thing about the series too - who looks tougher, cooler, who has better stuff, and why - I feel like one thing that SW does really well is making the bad guys and the good guys (not nec. just "empire v. rebels" - jabba, the bounty hunters, bespin etc) all have distinct and reasonably thought-out aesthetics, so all the different parties at play look impressive or at least put together in their own right, aside from the cantina extras who are genuinely assembled from spare parts, nobody really looks like they just go thrown together from spare parts. Even though up until Jedi they basically all were.

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Friday, 2 October 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link

I mean there's totally some fuckyeahmenswear style tumbl'n waiting to get implemented here
https://botwt.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/hanchew1.jpg

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Friday, 2 October 2015 21:14 (eight years ago) link

so you haven't seen the "hipsters dress like han solo" memes going around then?

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 2 October 2015 21:15 (eight years ago) link

Ultimately the thing that really sets apart Star Wars (the original trilogy) from stuff like Transformers and Marvel is that it has far superior set design, which may seem a minor thing for some people, but makes a world of difference to me personally.

Yeah for real, I'm increasingly thinking it's the design (character and vehicle as well as set) coupled to straightforward but cannily resonant plotting which makes the originals so iconic. The Stormtrooper armour for example has an unfussy elegance you would never ever see in a Transformers movie.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 2 October 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link

it's the design (character and vehicle as well as set) coupled to straightforward but cannily resonant plotting which makes the originals so iconic.

this is totally it. cuz it sure ain't the dialogue, the direction, the acting, the subtext (there isn't really any), the characters, or anything else that typically makes a film great.

Οὖτις, Friday, 2 October 2015 21:20 (eight years ago) link

and this is presumably before anybody had to go and write 20 page design documents to help explain the space-naval-architectural ethos and office dress codes of the respective organizations in the universe. somebody just drew some ships and some outfits and tweaked them here and there and then we end up with incredibly iconic things that literally have a higher Q rating than any of the actors involved.

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Friday, 2 October 2015 21:20 (eight years ago) link

dredging the x-wing in empire is still pretty special imo. genuinely stirring moments in blockbuster fx bombast. and then after that, yoda's crowning diss.

All the Dagoba scenes are incredible. What they did to Yoda in the prequels was a travesty.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 2 October 2015 21:22 (eight years ago) link

I take issue with the direction not being great (at times). The superior aesthetic qualities wouldn't come through or work as well if not for the way they're shot, edited, etc. Probably editing as much as anything (the prequels and special editions do bear that out) but you also can't splice a shot that wasn't ever there.

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Friday, 2 October 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link

the subtext (there isn't really any)

droid racism leads directly to the downfall of the empire. if they'd considered droids to be alive they would have detected them on board the escape pod, destroyed it, and lived happily ever after.

Do you feel guilty about your wight western priva (ledge), Friday, 2 October 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link

Also, sound design better and weirder than anything else out there. Tie Fighters sounded like nothing else, speeder bikes sounded like nothing else, imperial walkers whose audio design complimented and enhanced their story role, etc.

As effed as Phantom Menace was, I so dug how Ben Burtt varied up the engine sounds in the pod race, from what sounds like a V1 to something like a mic'd leafblower fed thru a flange pedal.

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Friday, 2 October 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link

droids are a race now?

surely the term should be droidism or something

Οὖτις, Friday, 2 October 2015 21:35 (eight years ago) link

"We don't serve your kind here" from a joint that allows Rodian bounty hunters free entrance

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Friday, 2 October 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link

the inclusiveness of the rebels is pretty clearly the reason they win out in the end. They pretty much take anybody who seems like they give a shit, which makes it seem like they would be easy pickings for imperial double agents, so perhaps there's a hidden side to all this where there's brutal rebel counterintelligence and potential innocents getting wiped out in "accidents" because they couldn't be trusted. Maybe Biggs' death was arranged, you know? Like, isn't that a little convenient that he just happens to ditch Luke for the Empire, then gets disillusioned as a cadet and joins the rebellion, just in time to find himself BEHIND LUKE in the the trench run on Bespin? Aw man I would like to see the SW version of The Departed now, please.

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Friday, 2 October 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link

if there's one thing the world doesn't need any more of it's SW fanfiction

Οὖτις, Friday, 2 October 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link

brave stance

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Friday, 2 October 2015 21:44 (eight years ago) link

"Lost a planet, Master Obi-Wan has. How embarrassing. How embarrassing."

Pretty sure that's Yoda's only attempt at humour in the prequels. Padawans must love him.

jmm, Friday, 2 October 2015 23:09 (eight years ago) link

well, Count Dooku was one of his padawans, so

μpright mammal (mh), Saturday, 3 October 2015 01:00 (eight years ago) link

he did beat the hell out of Dooku in a lightsaber battle (lol) until that damn sith pulled the classic "drop part of the building on your friends while I make a quick exit" move

fuckin' sith

μpright mammal (mh), Saturday, 3 October 2015 01:01 (eight years ago) link

unlike everything in Star Wars, which totally does not defy the laws of physics ever

if you accept that the force is a thing I can allow for some flexibility in the behavior of matter. Whereas transformers are 50 foot tall robots on earth who pretend they're cars.

joygoat, Saturday, 3 October 2015 01:09 (eight years ago) link

If you can accept the force then the allspark can't be much of a jump

μpright mammal (mh), Saturday, 3 October 2015 01:10 (eight years ago) link

allspark, did someone say?
http://news.tfw2005.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2010/02/Yoda_1266125789.jpg

Philip Nunez, Saturday, 3 October 2015 02:10 (eight years ago) link

this is totally it. cuz it sure ain't the dialogue, the direction, the acting, the subtext (there isn't really any), the characters, or anything else that typically makes a film great.

― Οὖτις, Friday, 2 October 2015 21:20 (Yesterday) Permalink

Not that this could possibly convince you, but I'll go ahead and say it's silly to say there are no worthy characters or performances in these movies. I mean, come on, for all their flaws, there are a number of memorable characters, charismatically performed--Han Solo, Vader, Yoda immediately jump to mind. This is an obvious component of the films' lasting success!

I mean, I've also watched the movies through my adult eyes and realized how creaky some of the dialogue is, how wooden certain performances are, and how they're generally more inert than I remember. But there are reasons beyond awesome set and sound design why it became iconic and, like, Logan's Run and The Black Hole did not.

intheblanks, Saturday, 3 October 2015 02:10 (eight years ago) link

Not that these movies need my prosaic defense in any way! And I'm totally tired of them too, but when you look at other space opera sci-fi, it seems pretty clear what Star Wars has going for it.

intheblanks, Saturday, 3 October 2015 02:13 (eight years ago) link

agree! Although I loved The Black Hole as a kid.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Saturday, 3 October 2015 02:17 (eight years ago) link

not to put something out there that I don't feel like expanding on (much) but...

one of the things that I liked about the OG star wars trilogy had is the sense of infiniteness -- there were all these AWESOME ALIENS in the cantina but none of them had names (at the time), or all the dudes wandering around Bespin or w/e and that gave the illusion that the galaxy went on and on and on and you could never hope to see it all. The idea that there was so much out there in the world that could be seen but not understood or compartmentalized is pretty powerful to a 6 year old who sees the world through that same lens. I never got into the EU stuff for pretty much that reason. Once you start trying to give a name to everything some of the wonder goes away.

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 3 October 2015 04:33 (eight years ago) link

otm

tbf the black hole is not bereft of good design work - the model stuff of the big ship rules, and maximilian stuck with me. but almost everything else is goofy or clunky or both. costumes look like costumes; sets look like sets. and obviously the characters might as well be wax dummies, even borgnine. so even before you consider effects, story, or cinematography, it's clear that star wars has got something that this has not.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 3 October 2015 05:17 (eight years ago) link

Actually guys I just realized that a guy who claims to "care less" about stuff yet spends a day or two trying to ensure that we all understand that Michael Bay's most hated films - about some shit that was a toy set before it was ever even a shitty series of movies- are the cultural equivalent of a landmark trilogy that millions of people loved right away even though they'd never heard of it before (from a nobody director) - that guy might be trolling. What do you think.

You know what never mind, let's entertain this argument some more. I think the TF movies and Avengers and Star Wars are all the same, because they are all in full color, and loud. None of them discuss how the Swiss invented the cuckoo clock, or what that means.

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Saturday, 3 October 2015 05:21 (eight years ago) link

XP The Black Hole fucking rules. I hum that score on the way to work on the regular.

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Saturday, 3 October 2015 05:22 (eight years ago) link

oh yeah the theme is awesome. the titles too. I found it very hard to watch as an adult, is all. never a problem with star wars obv.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 3 October 2015 05:25 (eight years ago) link

both Black Hole and Tron are much easier to digest as an adult if you treat them as the biblically-inspired operas that they are.

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Saturday, 3 October 2015 05:54 (eight years ago) link

star wars benefits a lot from lucas being at that time a pretty classic '70s style filmmaker with a good eye for imagery. I think the original is really exceptionally made and edited and acted. The dialogue is the weak link but most of the cast is good enough to make you forget it. most of the time. ford especially. guinness was on point too. I think the weak part is in some ways how quickly it moves from the escape from death star to the assault on death star. it feels like there's a good 20-30 min of training or prep or intrigue missing in there. luke's a pretty good pilot for a kid who's only shot womprats imo.

Anyway Lucas is easy to clown for the prequels and rightfully so, though even there he exhibited great imagination and there's stunning individual visual moments even in those flicks. Hard to find with the writing, acting, plotting, pacing, etc, but they're in there. Clearly the guy's no George Miller wrt dusting himself off and returning to form and then some. But back in the '70s he was good.

nomar, Saturday, 3 October 2015 06:09 (eight years ago) link

it's the mysticism of SW that i loved - do your training blindfolded! fold that hi-tech visualizer away and look at it FOR REAL! so exhilarating

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 3 October 2015 10:16 (eight years ago) link

There's a great history, probably linked up thread, that makes a strong case that a lot of early excellent Lucas is actually his first wife Marcia Lucas.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 3 October 2015 11:50 (eight years ago) link

yeah she's been completely written out of the official narrative

Number None, Saturday, 3 October 2015 14:24 (eight years ago) link

So I just bought tickets to a slightly-early screening of this to benefit the Greater Cleveland Film Commission. It will screen at 7pm on 12/17, about 5 hours before the wide US release.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Friday, 9 October 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link

not to put something out there that I don't feel like expanding on (much) but...

one of the things that I liked about the OG star wars trilogy had is the sense of infiniteness -- there were all these AWESOME ALIENS in the cantina but none of them had names (at the time), or all the dudes wandering around Bespin or w/e and that gave the illusion that the galaxy went on and on and on and you could never hope to see it all. The idea that there was so much out there in the world that could be seen but not understood or compartmentalized is pretty powerful to a 6 year old who sees the world through that same lens. I never got into the EU stuff for pretty much that reason. Once you start trying to give a name to everything some of the wonder goes away.

― How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, October 2, 2015 11:33 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah totally. The fact that it left so much unexplained made the universe so much more real, and it was probably my first exposure to a story told in that way.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 9 October 2015 18:48 (eight years ago) link

The Black Hole is sort of hurt by a lot of the Disney touches, e.g. those cartoonish floating robots with their corny dialogue, but there are aspects of it that are genuinely terrifying, and yeah, the theme rules.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 9 October 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link

gosh watching clips on youtube it really does look a lot worse than I remembered

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 9 October 2015 18:53 (eight years ago) link

I re-watched The Black Hole not too long ago and yeah, does not age well. Schell is hammy *even for a Disney movie*, and most of the actors seem bored. (Borgnine puts in some effort.) Maximillian robot still genuinely, and I love that he just leaves Schell for dead like "Would love to help, but I have a thing."

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Friday, 9 October 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link

I can't help but think that the makers of Event Horizon were fans, though.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Friday, 9 October 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link

I watched it within the last decade and yeah it doesn't hold up - plot and characters are largely nonexistent

Οὖτις, Friday, 9 October 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link

Jeez, next you're going to tell me that The Last Starfighter hasn't aged well. Whither my childhood memories.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 9 October 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link

Counterpoint is that The Last Starfigter was always awesome

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 9 October 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link

I am eyebrow-tilted by the fact that sometime between when I gave a shit about this stuff and the SW: Battlefront beta, the pronunciation of AT-AT changed from an acronym (at, at) to an initialism (ay tee ay tee).

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Saturday, 10 October 2015 23:39 (eight years ago) link

gr8080

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 11 October 2015 00:10 (eight years ago) link

Exactly. Who wants to go up against an 8080? of any grade.

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Sunday, 11 October 2015 00:41 (eight years ago) link

I know I am gradually turning into a gawker media stan already but these two listicle / clip mixes have really made me want a PS4

http://kotaku.com/eight-players-who-killed-it-in-the-star-wars-battlefron-1735641858

http://kotaku.com/10-priceless-fails-from-the-star-wars-battlefront-beta-1735757709

wait what board am I on

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Sunday, 11 October 2015 00:59 (eight years ago) link

I bought a PS4 yesterday, see u on the BATTLEFRONT.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Sunday, 11 October 2015 17:22 (eight years ago) link

Man, I am not precious about Star Wars at all, but it has done nothing to deserve FPS players.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 11 October 2015 17:34 (eight years ago) link

How so?

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Sunday, 11 October 2015 17:58 (eight years ago) link

The gif at the top of http://kotaku.com/one-gif-sums-up-star-wars-battlefronts-modern-multiplay-1734746714 is a decent place to start? Basically multiplayer in general is (I know, I know) a hive of scum and villainy, console and PC both.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 11 October 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link

just downloaded this :/

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 11 October 2015 20:16 (eight years ago) link

see you in 2016

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 11 October 2015 21:27 (eight years ago) link

Oh, you mean pubbie scum

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Sunday, 11 October 2015 22:17 (eight years ago) link

I spent about 2.5 hours playing the Drop Zone map in the beta, to discover that I am really, really out of practice on FPS. I've been playing platformers and MMOs so much, I was just getting decimated.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Sunday, 11 October 2015 23:42 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRnIPhQUYAAoupy.jpg

Number None, Sunday, 18 October 2015 16:28 (eight years ago) link

Nice.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Sunday, 18 October 2015 16:31 (eight years ago) link

no Luke in the poster?

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Sunday, 18 October 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link

he hasn't been seen (apart from a hand maybe) in any of the marketing material so far

Number None, Sunday, 18 October 2015 16:47 (eight years ago) link

ANOTHER Death Star?! O_o

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 18 October 2015 16:48 (eight years ago) link

Still... Chewie taking aim looks rad :)

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 18 October 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link

I especially like how you have to think for a minute about where Chewbacca's right arm ends and Leia's hairdo begins. Like what they're going for with
Rey's staff and Kylo Ren's saber, but hair

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Sunday, 18 October 2015 18:20 (eight years ago) link

trailer for the trailer

https://twitter.com/DisneyStudiosCA/status/655806407648800768

Number None, Sunday, 18 October 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link

Interesting to me that, in the material we've seen so far in trailers, we've seen a desert planet, some kind of snowy/icy environment, and some kind of jungle/forest environment. All the primary planets from the OT. Gotta imagine that's purposeful.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Sunday, 18 October 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxU2eqZtYmc

Number None, Sunday, 18 October 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link

I'd suspect everything about shooting a kwazillion dollar franchise meso-reboot is pretty purposeful

I'm pissed that the new-trailer teaser trailer doubles as an ad to make people watch fucking Monday Night Football.

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Sunday, 18 October 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link

oh yeah and the stanza rhyming bit. I read about that earlier on some other site for nerds

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Sunday, 18 October 2015 18:36 (eight years ago) link

will the new movies ever feature people eating food or visiting a WC?

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Sunday, 18 October 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link

btw the poetry quote comes from the official making-of documentary. it's amazing that they released it -- it is on the level of some kind of monster in terms of the filmmakers getting away with shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da8s9m4zEpo

aaaaablnnn (abanana), Sunday, 18 October 2015 18:52 (eight years ago) link

Yeah the prequel trilogy was almost worth it for giving us that and the RLM reviews.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Sunday, 18 October 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link

does that new death star have eyelashes

the sassy star

μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 18 October 2015 21:44 (eight years ago) link

starfleeker

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Sunday, 18 October 2015 21:46 (eight years ago) link

wtf ANOTHER DEATH STAR????

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 19 October 2015 00:19 (eight years ago) link

You know, the dark gritty reboot.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 October 2015 01:28 (eight years ago) link

(Hey I titled this thread for a reason.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 October 2015 01:29 (eight years ago) link

Maybe they will get Bill Murray for the Christmas special this time.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 19 October 2015 04:04 (eight years ago) link

it's a pokeball. the force awakens is a stealth pokemon crossover.

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 19 October 2015 06:38 (eight years ago) link

dying at "starfleeker"

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 19 October 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link

xp chewbacca revealed as a bidoof

Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 19 October 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link

cannot believe tickets are going on sale NOW; star wars is going to be a completely inescapable and utterly engineered phenomenon of daily life (moreso) for the next few years huh

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 October 2015 18:00 (eight years ago) link

its so weird that Star Wars was just a stupid nonsensical film student b-movie and now it this monolithic eternal cash cow

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 19 October 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link

i just hope it gives Mel Brooks some good material to work with

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 19 October 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link

a stupid nonsensical film student b-movie

The original Star Wars film got a Time magazine cover and big write up before it was even released, so even though it mimicked many b-movie conventions, it was never a b-movie.

Aimless, Monday, 19 October 2015 18:36 (eight years ago) link

via ned:

http://i.imgur.com/h8WQhMn.jpg

1999 ball boy (Karl Malone), Monday, 19 October 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link

can't wait for the reveal that Jar Jar came out of the woodwork sometime after Endor, realizing the son of his bestest bombad friend is alive, and he's been holed up with Luke somewhere in the Outer Rim cooking up a plan

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 19 October 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link

I can't wait until Jar Jar steps out of the shadows behind Kylo Ren and ignites his FOUR BLADED LIGHTSABER after saying "MEESA SECRET EMPERORER ALL ALONGS"

si monvmentvm reqvires, pvmpkin spice (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 19 October 2015 18:53 (eight years ago) link

i would put the odds of jar jar or a jar jar alike being sarcastically killed in the background of one of these movies at about 3 to 1

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 October 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link

normally i oppose such things but it might be good to have a really long torture scene

1999 ball boy (Karl Malone), Monday, 19 October 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link

or maybe just 15+ dense paragraphs of text flying through space describing the torture at the very beginning

1999 ball boy (Karl Malone), Monday, 19 October 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link

Fanfare, chapter VII crawl, slow pan across an alien world stopping on a full-frame close-up of Jar Jar, who just stares into the camera and wordlessly mugs for five minutes or so.

I'm not sure there's a dollar amount I wouldn't pay Abrams to make this happen.

Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 October 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link

does anyone think they'll do away with the intro template/music/incredibly slow crawling text with this one? i know it produces warm nostalgic feelings but it's also kind of cheesy to keep going back to it

1999 ball boy (Karl Malone), Monday, 19 October 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link

what if the Emperor was using his proximity to Jar Jar to mold his mind for consciousness transfer, and after his death, he fully took over the Gungan? game changer

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 19 October 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link

there is 0% chance there will not be a text crawl

it'll be something like:
- such-and-such years have passed since the rebellion's victory on Endor
- the New Republic believes the Imperial remnants to be fractured and defeated
- there's actually been a consolidation of Imperial power in the First Order, they're hiding out in the Queluhan Nebula (maybe not mentioned by name) and have strong leadership
- something something dark side

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 19 October 2015 19:08 (eight years ago) link

xxpost Cheesy or not, the only reason I can imagine them abandoning any of the standard Star Wars movie intro stuff is rights issues (although I think I read something about Disney possibly trying to even secure the 20th Century Fox intro??).

Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 October 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link

Star Wars, cheesy? Never!

(they have the anthology movies to fuck with the formula a bit)

Number None, Monday, 19 October 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link

"Vendortainment" is a good name for what this and the genre stuff covered by ComiCon

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Monday, 19 October 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link

....has become.

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Monday, 19 October 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link

good options:
1) the whole movie is just a text scroll
2) halfway through the scroll, there's a needle-scratching-the-record noise and a bunch of jawas wobble through the frame, movie starts
3) text scroll says, in its entirety, "awwwwwwwww YEAH STAR WARS BITCH"

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 October 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link

they recycled some bit of john williams fanfare to replace the 20th century fox intro

balls, Monday, 19 October 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link

maybe the text scroll will inexorably crush jar jar to death

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 19 October 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link

i'm counting on jj abrams to do something lame but i guess at least SW isn't sharing the same universe with earth so there won't be scenes of drunk han in a bar listening to beastie boys

nomar, Monday, 19 October 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link

or whatever the hell happened in chris pine star trek

nomar, Monday, 19 October 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link

there's a character called Ello Atsy

no joke

Number None, Monday, 19 October 2015 19:23 (eight years ago) link

Again, I don't know how much money I'd pay Abrams to drop a Beastie Boys song into the new Star Wars movie, but it's a lot of money.

Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 October 2015 19:29 (eight years ago) link

OH: an extended Jar Jar dance number set to a Beastie Boys song. Please. Please.

Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 October 2015 19:32 (eight years ago) link

The chances that the name "Ello Asty" is going to be spoken on-screen are approximately one in a kazillion.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Monday, 19 October 2015 19:40 (eight years ago) link

Many/most of the names we "know" for characters in the OT were never spoken on screen.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Monday, 19 October 2015 19:40 (eight years ago) link

I have some recollection of Klaatu, Barada, and Nikto being addressed onscreen by name at some point.

Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 October 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link

Star Wars character names after Beastie Boys album named after publicity company

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 19 October 2015 20:00 (eight years ago) link

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-ptdJFFAy68

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Monday, 19 October 2015 20:04 (eight years ago) link

Some other Episode VII character names that have recently leaked:

Shakya Rupp
Chichak Eetout
Fyte-Fyar Ayt'parti
Pols Batik
Sah Botaj
Heart Attack Man
Sawitcha-Wunt

Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 October 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link

kinda cheezy to go back to that "force" well

Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 19 October 2015 20:10 (eight years ago) link

in other news, is anyone buying their ticket tonight?

i think i will just be a regular person & buy a ticket at the theater

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 October 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link

There is a particular audience that I'm sure will happily flock to the screenings of Episode VII which require them to purchase their ticket months in advance. I do not want to attend those particular screenings.

Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 October 2015 20:22 (eight years ago) link

My kid has been being me to take him to this ever since I mentioned that I did the same thing for Phantom Menace. I'm a little bummed that I have to try and execute an Internet ticket transaction late at night and I have to watch a goddamn football game to get the cue about when I'm able to but them.

how's life, Monday, 19 October 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link

Buy them.

how's life, Monday, 19 October 2015 20:35 (eight years ago) link

but them, definitely but them

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 October 2015 20:56 (eight years ago) link

:)

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 October 2015 20:56 (eight years ago) link

text crawl is obviously 100%, but i'm still weighing the odds on whether it will be preceded by a black screen with sylvester stallone's voice declaring "let's do this."

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Monday, 19 October 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link

i have to go out for dinner, do you think it'll be ok to shush the whole restaurant when the trailer comes on MNF?

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 October 2015 21:08 (eight years ago) link

most definitely

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 19 October 2015 21:45 (eight years ago) link

frankly, what kind of respectable establishment wouldn't demand silence from its patrons in that scenario?

Number None, Monday, 19 October 2015 21:54 (eight years ago) link

any respectable establishment

Οὖτις, Monday, 19 October 2015 21:55 (eight years ago) link

well I just rang Le Bernardin to check and they said they're shutting down service for the duration

Number None, Monday, 19 October 2015 22:00 (eight years ago) link

if anyone plays this in my presence I'll probably just loudly talk over it

Οὖτις, Monday, 19 October 2015 22:01 (eight years ago) link

that's the spirit! crush that childlike sense of joy!

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 October 2015 22:06 (eight years ago) link

Joy is ®™ Disney Corp, of course

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 October 2015 22:06 (eight years ago) link

joy hasn't been a component of this cultural juggernaut for at least 3 decades

Οὖτις, Monday, 19 October 2015 22:09 (eight years ago) link

keep grinding that axe

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 19 October 2015 22:11 (eight years ago) link

btw guys Star Wars Rebels is still pretty joyful

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 19 October 2015 22:11 (eight years ago) link

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0431439/
post production manager as it happens

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 October 2015 22:11 (eight years ago) link

got my tickets in the seats i wanted and it sold out like ten minutes later. fandango seems to have crashed.

balls, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 01:59 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGbxmsDFVnE

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 02:17 (eight years ago) link

i bet it's gonna be a hit

balls, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 02:22 (eight years ago) link

Love Han Solo going from "ancient weapons and hokey religions" to "the dark side, the Jedi, it's all true."

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 02:24 (eight years ago) link

lotta ppl find religion right before they die

balls, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 02:47 (eight years ago) link

he did witness a lot of wonky shit

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 02:49 (eight years ago) link

I always felt bad that the droids had to ride in the rumble seat in the X-Wing. The trend continues when BB-8 tags along with Llewyn Davis.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 02:50 (eight years ago) link

Han and Leia in sad hug as troops look on followed by a Falcon in flames about to crash into something = Bye Han (and Chewie)? Looks good. Still too much. damn. lensflare. Abrams haha

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 02:51 (eight years ago) link

oh wait - I got those scenes reversed. Rewatch!

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 02:52 (eight years ago) link

i am going to watch this in a movie theater

zoso def (m bison), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 03:01 (eight years ago) link

I'm gonna call it right now - the biggest problem with this movie will be the filler. A pronlem shared by certain Star Wars remakes and epic films like The Hobbit part 3.

The Once-ler, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 03:15 (eight years ago) link

How about issue number one being, I don't know, lack of a protagonist?

calstars, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 03:20 (eight years ago) link

A hot mess

calstars, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 03:23 (eight years ago) link

it cant help feel melancholy like now the other movies are just some other things that happened. all those times i dreamed about the future or past of the Star Wars universe as a kid are being overwritten by these official sequels and prequels. maybe han saying "It all happened" is a little too on the nose for me.

its not going to live up to the hype but will do a lot of things technically right and people will love it cos at least its not the godawful sequels. the main bad guy's voice in this trailer is pretty rough, i hope it sounds better in the movie.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 04:18 (eight years ago) link

def gon be a ton of filler and fan service

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 04:19 (eight years ago) link

oh please

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 05:02 (eight years ago) link

btw guys Star Wars Rebels is still pretty joyful

― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 19 October 2015 23:11 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Rewatched Genndy Tartakovsky's Clone Wars cartoons last week, joy is a pretty big component there too.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 07:01 (eight years ago) link

If there was going to be a ton of fan service, wouldn't they have, y'know, stuck some in a trailer?

The tone def. seems smart - one of the best aspects of the original series was finding out all this forgotten stuff along with Luke, seeing him working up his skills so that when in the third he can actually deflect laser blasts it's all kinds of awesome. Vs "So these two Jedi (out of hundreds) walk into a trade negotiation" - a definite case of "fans are convinced that they want to see something that they don't actually want to see".

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 07:09 (eight years ago) link

How about issue number one being, I don't know, lack of a protagonist?

― calstars, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 04:20 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's Greek for white dude, right?

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 07:10 (eight years ago) link

based on his conspicuous absence i'm guessing luke is going to get killed or turn evil

ogmor, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 07:31 (eight years ago) link

i hope not tho, we need an old force sage

ogmor, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 07:36 (eight years ago) link

Enjoyed the 0.3 seconds of Carrie Fisher. Luke is presumably the gloved figure touching R2 in that one shot. This is going to run about 165 minutes.

Love Han Solo going from "ancient weapons and hokey religions" to "the dark side, the Jedi, it's all true."

Ya didn't figure out by the end of the first movie that his "arc" was Bogey in Casablanca, huh?

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 07:52 (eight years ago) link

Luke won't turn evil unless Harper Lee did some script doctoring

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 07:53 (eight years ago) link

also wtf is that unintelligible whisper that ends the v/o?

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 08:15 (eight years ago) link

yeah the hand is such a tease tho. mb they're building up to luke's entrance, but the former main character not showing up properly is an Interesting Choice at least

ogmor, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 08:28 (eight years ago) link

Not to get all Zapruder Film here but are there clues that Luke is even going to be in this? Otherwise, he's in the next movie.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 08:29 (eight years ago) link

Clue is Mark Hamill's name on the credits?

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 08:33 (eight years ago) link

we heard his voice. who scavenged vader's helmet from the funeral pyre? seems like a strange thing for luke to do

ogmor, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 08:39 (eight years ago) link

OK! (you can guess how much I've been paying attention to this)

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 08:39 (eight years ago) link

No more revealing than the first trailer - doesn't seem to delve a little deeper into what the film's actually about. Maybe this is good? IDK

who scavenged vader's helmet from the funeral pyre?

assuming Kylo Ren does this and the first trailer shows him on Endor (about to chop up some Ewoks with his fancy sabre)

nashwan, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 08:54 (eight years ago) link

This is going to run about 165 minutes.

I read 135 mins somewhere. Which is still far too long obv.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 10:28 (eight years ago) link

i wonder if we'll actually see adam driver's face. would be one way to get around him being pretty goofy looking for an evil villain dude.

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 10:36 (eight years ago) link

is Luke dead and that's just his disembodied voice in the other trailer? maybe he 'appears' as per Ben in Jedi/Empire.

piscesx, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 10:41 (eight years ago) link

remove your 3D glasses, Finn... use the force

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 10:50 (eight years ago) link

not a chance Luke died offscreen

Number None, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 10:55 (eight years ago) link

Luke will show up in the last 10 minutes, just when it seems all is lost. He'll play a larger role in the next film.

calstars, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 11:23 (eight years ago) link

Ya didn't figure out by the end of the first movie that his "arc" was Bogey in Casablanca, huh

"I came to Tatooine for the waters."

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 11:27 (eight years ago) link

"I came to Tatooine for the waters moisture vaporators."

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 11:30 (eight years ago) link

The first few times I watched this, I had mistaken Poe Dameron for Luke at about 1:02. A very "noooooo" moment.

how's life, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 11:36 (eight years ago) link

^

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 11:39 (eight years ago) link

loved the trailer. not so keen on the alternative poster though

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12087994_10156165975880367_702142227212999483_n.jpg?oh=c7edc72995088576470d2f926d22c4a7&oe=5685F3C6

jamiesummerz, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 12:32 (eight years ago) link

Maybe I need to see the trailer on a bigger screen, but I'm somehow less enthused after watching it? I'm sure (I hope) the movie isn't as po-faced as the new trailer makes it seem. It felt a lot less Star Wars-y than the first trailer.

Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 12:43 (eight years ago) link

looks like third weekend discount matinee for me, and i feel like shit about goin that far

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 13:04 (eight years ago) link

Bigger! Louder! Faster! More emotion! More drama! More serious! Less fun!

I'm sure my kids (who I think have just seen the first Star Wars) will want to see this, but I'm concerned half this movie will be like the time traveling Spock scene in JJ's Trek reboot.

The mournful piano motif in the trailer - is that Williams? Because it does not sound like his thing.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 13:27 (eight years ago) link

looks like a hobbit movie

http://i.imgur.com/fDRlZCr.jpg

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 13:35 (eight years ago) link

Accepting Han and Leia are old and have kids is inheritably less Star Wars-y. Just pray that 'we are family' isn't a main theme.

The Once-ler, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 13:45 (eight years ago) link

I was most excited by the music in the trailer because it didnt (as far as I can tell) repeat an old motif. Otherwise it's just a teaser and I dont know why anyone would expect anything more.

The Once-ler, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 13:50 (eight years ago) link

You are all bearing in mind that the original series started with space nazis blowing their way into a shuttle, killing most of the defenders and torturing the shit out of one of our heroes, right?

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 13:53 (eight years ago) link

Just pray that 'we are family' isn't a main theme.

I read this wrong and imagined John Williams sprinkling his score with an occasional Sister Sledge motif.

Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 13:59 (eight years ago) link

I was most excited by the music in the trailer because it didnt (as far as I can tell) repeat an old motif.

Han and Leia's love theme is in there

Number None, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 14:27 (eight years ago) link

Maybe I need to see the trailer on a bigger screen, but I'm somehow less enthused after watching it? I'm sure (I hope) the movie isn't as po-faced as the new trailer makes it seem. It felt a lot less Star Wars-y than the first trailer.

― Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, October 20, 2015 7:43 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think I've come to terms with the fact that no one in 2015 is going to be able to make a literal Episode VII, a pure continuation of the original trilogy, let alone a pure continuation of the original trilogy as perceived and absorbed by my 7-year-old self in spite of my now being 35. This looks faithful enough to the aesthetic and spirit of the original that I'll probably be happy with it.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 14:27 (eight years ago) link

Maybe I need to see the trailer on a bigger screen, but I'm somehow less enthused after watching it? I'm sure (I hope) the movie isn't as po-faced as the new trailer makes it seem. It felt a lot less Star Wars-y than the first trailer.

When Star Wars in general tries to not be po-faced, we end up with things like Ewoks and Jar-Jar.

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 14:31 (eight years ago) link

who scavenged vader's helmet from the funeral pyre?

some comic con fucks

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link

xpost It's a tightrope walk, for sure.

At any rate, my expectations are super low (thanks, George) so I'm sure it'll be entertaining and fine if not necessarily in the ballpark of what I might have prefered.

Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link

all i'm asking for is avengers 1 levels of enjoyment

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 14:38 (eight years ago) link

Bigger! Louder! Faster! More emotion! More drama! More serious! Less fun!

Eh? I think it looks plenty fun.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 14:38 (eight years ago) link

Crazy chase through scuttled Star Destroyer is crazy fun. btw, skip my posts if you don't want new-canon nerdery for the next couple months. Sorry all, I've regressed to the mh of 1998.

It looks like, with the exception of showing the villains off in quick shots, the framing of the trailer is "lonely girl, thinking 'bout things on a desert planet, wishing she could get offworld," leading to her meeting the pilot of a downed TIE fighter, and then they meet Han Solo, who tells them all the rumors about how the war really shook out a few decades ago being true.

The story of the Empire most people knew, especially those away from the core worlds, was that he swept away corruption from within the Republic and instituted strong military rule to bring about a better life for those in the galaxy. The flip side of that is that a number of people knew it was on the back of slaves, suppression of free speech, and a ruthless military with weapons that could wipe out planets.

The original trilogy is a very family-based, remnants of the Jedi story that most people wouldn't know. I'd imagine outside of Luke's immediate friends and family, few people knew that he was on the second death star, let alone that Darth Vader was his father. The rebellion in the galaxy at large was the story of a group of people who believed in the vision of the Republic taking down a fascist state. Sure, there were rumors about the Emperor and Vader being creatures of the force, about the rebel alliance having a jedi on their side, but framing the entire conflict as a sith/jedi thing is the story for the moviegoers, not the viewpoint of the characters.

So Han saying that yes, these crazy rumors were true, that they had the force on their side, is pretty exciting for a kid who was born long after all these events.

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link

just watched the original's trailer again to see if it gave any hint of humor in it. it didn't nor any sense of plot which was kinda surprising. i can understand them revealing virtually nothing about the plot w/ the new one, i can appreciate it even. the original's trailer is definitely bigger! louder! though, plus heavy playing up of romance (they really play up the pitch 'the story of a boy, a girl, and a universe', which has generally been forgotten). there's virtually no dialogue in the original (i think threepio talks most and that's just during a 'this movie's got robots y'all' part), just a whole lot of lasers blasting and ships flying and explosions. they play up the swinging on the rope scene big, seeing the star wars trailer on tv is one of my first memories and that specifically is what gripped me, it was a really big part of the iconography at the time - incorporated into the death star toy, a callback in rotj - but it seems to have kinda faded. i posted this elsewhere but i think the thing i take most comfort in is how much isn't 'star warsy' here, the kinds of shots you never saw in the others, etc. if they're going to make god knows how many more of these i'd like directors to be able to have some fun in how they tell the story, the most disappointing thing about the marvel movies for me is how they all basically look the same.

balls, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 14:53 (eight years ago) link

There's also a strong tradition of jedi-as-monks, leading lives in exile meditating and studying to try to suss out the will of the force. Luke appears in the trailers so far, but only as a voice or in the one repeated cut of him reaching out with his robot arm to touch R2. Chances are, he's been off meditating somewhere or searching out old jedi lore in the outer rim. The books/comics seem to imply the Imperials who are clued into the force seem to think Palpatine had something hidden, something powerful, out there, too.

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link

btw some website seemed to imply there is an ewok cameo, probably when this Vader fanboy goes to see out his relics, lol

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link

Aw that's nice, I think Ewoks get a bit unfairly picked on.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link

Mark Hamill is the new Alec Guinness (good luck everyone)

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 14:58 (eight years ago) link

I've seen Star Wars and Empire fairly recently (within the last three years), but I honestly can't remember when I last watched Jedi. I'll probably need to brush up before the new one. Maybe what you say is true and Ewoks aren't as bad as I remember.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 14:59 (eight years ago) link

mh i don't know if you're like me and have to ruin things for yrself but have you seen that long theory that basically synthesizes all the rumours and spoilers into one plot outline. cuz it read pretty plausible in general to me (and these things definitely get out - i can remember reading something similar for phantom menace that was pretty dead on enough that i could warn ppl about jar jar and let them know that darth maul was barely in the movie), and nothing i've seen so far negates anything in it.

xp jedis as monks was so how i basically saw them as a kid and so much better than the prequels jedis as cia

balls, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

very impressed with mh's scholarly contributions here, kiu

ogmor, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

Love Han Solo going from "ancient weapons and hokey religions" to "the dark side, the Jedi, it's all true."

this was disorienting

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

somewhat tempted to get a ticket to the marathon and then just skip the prequels

balls, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link

The Ewoks are awesome. The Luke/Leia "my sister has it" scene though...

how's life, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link

Jedi = Hollywood monks who blow up shit!

The Luke/Leia "my sister has it" scene though...

The Force is the new herpes.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:02 (eight years ago) link

*crying tears of joy* you guys star wars is so stupid, this is going to be so bad

goole, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link

han would have to be a legit cretin if he was still totally sceptical about the force despite hanging out w/ masters for years

ogmor, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link

How much time did the original trilogy cover? Because it's that + 30 years.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:10 (eight years ago) link

original films take place over the course of about five years, I think

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:16 (eight years ago) link

the time span between SW and TESB is the oddest. Suddenly Solo's a general. I think the novels published since then have said as much as five to eight years?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link

fwiw I don't really care about guessing the last couple acts of the new film, I am sure someone has sussed out some details about the twists, but honestly with so many people coming up with fan theories, at least one has to be close

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:18 (eight years ago) link

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_canon_media

this is some new numbering that starts with Episode I, but it looks like Episode IV takes place 32 years in, and Empire is 35, so about three years

the rebels had a pretty small force at the beginning and saw a lot of action, and I'm not sure if it's canon anymore, but Han had military training before he bailed out to be a smuggler, so it's a stretch but not implausible

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link

One thing I do love in the new trailers is the use of the Falcon. One of the exciting things about the possibilities of space flight/combat is that you don't really have the same kind of directional/gravitational limits, all planes are equally open. Yet most space flight/combat is not filmed with this in mind. Something about the Falcon's shape makes it particularly fun to watch swooping around in all directions, making loops, etc., like it doesn't LOOK like something that was designed with any nods to the principles of flight within gravity. Of course the Falcon is also doing some of that swooping around within gravity, so I guess I'm just saying I like watching the falcon fly around.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link

judging by the large mane of dark hair this Kylo Ren has, I can only assume he's the son of Leia and Chewbacca

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link

kylo ren Halloween costumes already on sale btw. First time you'll be able to dress as a character from a movie that's not out yet?

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:27 (eight years ago) link

how is time measured in the star wars universe anyway

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link

in parsnips

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:29 (eight years ago) link

The Galactic Standard Calendar was the standard measurement of time in the galaxy. It centered around the Coruscant solar cycle. The Coruscant solar cycle was 368 days long with a day consisting of 24 standard hours.

so uhh basically earth years

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:29 (eight years ago) link

they even fudge the physics of faster-than-light travel. somehow there's a device that keeps time on ships synchronized with the world outside

I don't want to know if anyone has written a goofy "physics of Star Wars" book, but the full text would probably be something to the effect of "we're telling a story here, ok?"

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:37 (eight years ago) link

It's set in a fictional universe where physics operate entirely differently. SW has never claimed to be hard sci-fi.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:39 (eight years ago) link

I was just curious about something I was sure some nerd came up with an answer for, not really concerned about scientific versimilitude or anything

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link

but if star wars isn't real then all the organizing principles of my life are wrong

1999 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
(does this mean yes?)

1999 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link

adopt a strong principle of disorganization

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link

mh analysis a+, nice one

I also am interested in the voice talking to Ren at the beginning and end "Who are you?" "The force, it's calling to you. Just let it in." Do we know who that voice is?

I'm exciting by the possibility of these characters (Ren, Boyega) having that Skywalker discovery of something bigger than themselves, journeys to find a purpose etc. The characters were the heart of the original trilogy, and the suggestion that we may get back to some of that kind of storytelling feels good

Han's "it's real" makes me so teary, I love it.

I am excited, hopeful...I feel all the good feelings about this so far

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link

Shot-by-shot breakdown for us obsessives: http://io9.com/heres-a-shot-by-shot-breakdown-of-all-the-goodies-in-th-1737486310

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 16:59 (eight years ago) link

1:1 we get a re-reprise of "I love you" "I know"

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 16:59 (eight years ago) link

The characters were the heart of the original trilogy,

they were?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link

this is news to me

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link

I also am interested in the voice talking to Ren at the beginning and end "Who are you?" "The force, it's calling to you. Just let it in." Do we know who that voice is?

Think that's Lupita N'yongo.

how's life, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:01 (eight years ago) link

xpost ok cool shakey you tell me your version

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link

just planting the seeds for the inevitable crossover
you laugh, but we'll see it in our lifetime

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link

xpost ok cool shakey you tell me your version

if anything it's good design that drives the original trilogy. The characters and their arcs are barely there at all (which is not to say that Hamill, Ford and Fisher don't try their best with the clunky dialogue and limited interactions they're given to work with)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link

I'm not a sci-fi nerd and even I know that Star Wars takes place in the past relative to human existence and Star Trek takes place in the future. I guess they've already fuxxed with time travel, though.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link

having recently watched Fury Road it kind of reminded me of Star Wars in terms of how much information can be conveyed and how much audience engagement can be generated solely by good art direction/costuming/character design/set design etc. Fury Road is better with the constant forward-motion action sequences but there's def a bit of that in play in the original SW trilogy as well. Characters are like third down the list of things that work in those movies, imo.

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:15 (eight years ago) link

i wonder if Ford did a *callback* on-set w/ "You can write this shit JJ, but you sure can't say it"

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:18 (eight years ago) link

man i forget how pedantic these conversations get

Luke's journey, his relationship to Vader, to Obi Wan, his relationship Leia, Leia's relationship to Han, were what the story is about. However poorly realized that story/those characters may be to you, ok fine, whatever... but it's not a newsflash

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:20 (eight years ago) link

I'm not a sci-fi nerd and even I know that Star Wars takes place in the past relative to human existence and Star Trek takes place in the future.

It happened a long time ago relative to when the story of Star Wars is being told. The Magical Storytelling Crawl could still exist in our far future.

Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:20 (eight years ago) link

imo the trek/wars xover happens in a few decades when the multiplexes finally sag under their own weight and both franchises have been wrung nearly dry of goodwill
sort of a last play to get the kind of insane press and rabid TAKE MY MONEY ticketsales

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link

star trek has imo been wrung dry at this point bc tbh abrams fucked them up. i suspect he'll do a better job here, iirc he's on record saying he's not a trek fan at all but is a star wars obsessive.

nomar, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link

Can't wait to see Luke get frozen in carbonite and Han get his hand cut off.

Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:50 (eight years ago) link

The other extended, canon universe thing that comes to mind is that there are a number of non-Jedi, non-Sith groups who had some capability with the force. Vader fan crew might think they're Sith or something, but they could just be weirdo Vader-worshiping acolytes.

The other thing that seems to be stressed is that the force likes balance. The book that kind of covers the rise of Palpatine luckily only briefly touched on the biology (not going to type that m-word) of force sensitives, but he and his master had this plan where they meditated for years to somehow push the balance of the force to the dark side. Then Palpy was going to be the figurehead and run the republic while his master held the real dark side power or w/e. Some time after Anakin is born, they realize his birth lines up with the time they were doing their meditation and realize that they missed something.

Of course, then Palpatine slaughters his master shortly after, and the dude they were training as a secret assassin (who wasn't master or apprentice, but just their pawn) steps in as Darth Maul, and then the prequel mess happened.

So if Luke has been in exile and the dark side is rising, then something is going to break

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:06 (eight years ago) link

just rlly looking fwd to Triumph the Insult Comic Dog working the line

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:07 (eight years ago) link

love Triumph

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:09 (eight years ago) link

he would probably tell me how tragic it is to know so much about Star Wars and so little about going outdoors

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link

I also am interested in the voice talking to Ren at the beginning and end "Who are you?" "The force, it's calling to you. Just let it in." Do we know who that voice is?

Barbra Streisand.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:17 (eight years ago) link

You can see the rear of Adam Driver's head sans Sith mask in the shot near the end where he approaches Boyega. I have no idea how it's going to play in the actual film, but I kinda dig how Boyega's playing it; his expression reads to me as a terrified/panicked/excited "oh shit here we go here we go here we go"

But this is a trailer designed to sell the movie to folks who weren't already gunna see it anyway.

As for how fast/loud everything seems, yeah, trailers are cut differently than they were and they figured out how to tighten the quick bits, I guess.

At this point, I'm kinda looking forward more to the new Fallout game in terms of genre releases this winter than a new SW flick, but if they can pull something off, I'll be happy. Hell, just entertain me as much as the Kotor games or Genndy's animated series and I'll be happy.

Didn't buy a ticket, but I'm lucky to live in Portland with a great single-screen local-owned joint right up the road to see it in and I won't hafta put up with multiplex bollocks that makes me want to just burn everything down.

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:21 (eight years ago) link

John Boyega on Storm Troopering: "I'm getting too old for this shit"

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link

I also am interested in the voice talking to Ren at the beginning and end "Who are you?" "The force, it's calling to you. Just let it in." Do we know who that voice is?

Stimpy, presumably?

Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:28 (eight years ago) link

But this is a trailer designed to sell the movie to folks who weren't already gunna see it anyway

this is an odd conclusion

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link

i see Billy Dee Williams gets a lotta SW cartoon voice work.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link

huh, for some reason I'd assumed his lines were done by a soundalike

they did get James Earl Jones in for some lines in the newest season of the cartoon, which is a coup on their part

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link

Adam Driver is forever gonna be adam from girls in my mind and i am looking forward to him glaring at whoever and doing the whole "YOU KNOW NOTHING OF THE DARK SIDE JON SNOW" bit all brooklyn hipster style

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link

just don't ever use "A New Hope" in front of me.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link

Adam Driver is playing an earthbound 17th-century Jesuit Jedi in the new Scorsese

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:37 (eight years ago) link

RLM's trailer reaction video is very good.

jmm, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:39 (eight years ago) link

i like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1pn4bTAQWA

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:53 (eight years ago) link

I also am interested in the voice talking to Ren at the beginning and end "Who are you?" "The force, it's calling to you. Just let it in." Do we know who that voice is?

It's Disney telling you to open your wallets. You know you want to see this movie anyways, just let it happen.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link

honestly Lucas should have done this after Empire. we would be on the 2nd reboot of the entire franchise by now.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link

man there are a lot of characters in this movie, huh? i mean there are enough new actors to fill equivalents to all the roles in the original trilogy... plus the actors from that trilogy as well. seems like it'd be overstuffed along the lines of a lot of contemporary franchise films. i predict lots of manic cross-cutting.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link

as long as they give Ello Asty a proper arc

Number None, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link

those old-timey serial wipes better be doubletime

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link

they could alternate left- and right-wipes, and then parody the fast-paced nature mid film by doing both at the same time and meeting in the middle

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link

the wipes in the trailer really bothered me actually, they don't really achieve an "old-timey" effect for me and look power-pointish

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link

is Lobot in this

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link

finally the only question that matters

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:09 (eight years ago) link

Best part of that RLM bit was the background chatter where they are trying to identify the character based on the ... feminine garb? And then one guys says "you know, there might be more than one girl in this movie." And the other guy goes "well, it is Star Wars."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:18 (eight years ago) link

Lobot is in that Lando comic series

it is sad, though

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:18 (eight years ago) link

don't cry, Lobot!

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:19 (eight years ago) link

one of the many cool things about Kershner's direction of TESB: no explanations. Here's a weird bald mute dude wearing headphones who sleeps standing up and awakens suddenly when someone calls. Maybe it was a cool New Wave tune idk

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:31 (eight years ago) link

big Gary Numan fan iirc

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:32 (eight years ago) link

collect em all

http://theswca.com/db/stephane/lobot_mecc_esb.jpg

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:32 (eight years ago) link

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/what-if-the-new-star-wars-sucks-too-1737539377

this is a pretty on point article.

nomar, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link

those dr dre headphones are a real eye opener for sure imo

nomar, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:35 (eight years ago) link

I used Lobot often during the eighties, often as fleet commander/human collaborator with Transformers, Thundercats, etc.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:35 (eight years ago) link

Best part of that RLM bit was the background chatter where they are trying to identify the character based on the ... feminine garb? And then one guys says "you know, there might be more than one girl in this movie." And the other guy goes "well, it is Star Wars."

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, October 20, 2015 4:18 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The original trilogy is kind of fueled by a subtext of everyone sexually competing for Leia -- Luke, Han, Vader, Jabba, Lando, even the Storm Troopers.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link

were you a teenage lobotomy?

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link

xpost

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link

and three of the worst major motion pictures ever made.

oh come on

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link

Identical all-white drones, more like Sperm Troopers amirite?

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link

that part is probably overstated since ROTS is legit solid for the most part, but i also remember the rictus grin i wore at the end of phantom menace and for most of AOTC

nomar, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link

Further symbolisim in the x-wings running down a shaft in order to penetrate a giant egg. I could really run with this.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link

ROTJ is inert for reasons that have nothing to do with Ewoks.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:41 (eight years ago) link

my favorite part of Jedi is when obi-wan's ghost sits down on a log

nomar, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:42 (eight years ago) link

Alec Guinness, exhausted by the doggerel.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:44 (eight years ago) link

I've a childhood memory of three quarters of the audience bursting out laughing when Obi-Wan gives Luke his "what I told you was true...from a certain point of view" and Luke says A CERTAIN POINT OF VIIIEW?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:45 (eight years ago) link

lol

Also, the Leia-as-sister thing is a fatal mistake, too; it forces us to understand both Vader and Obi-Wan as complete idiots. Vader stood face-to-face with his own daughter at multiple junctures of the first film and never once noticed a resemblance to himself or his dead wife—the woman with whom, according to the prequel trilogy, he’d been in love since he was eight years old? He never once detected that the Force was strong with this one? A random astromech droid shows up at Obi-Wan’s hut in the company of Darth Vader’s secret son, spits out a video recording of that son’s secret sister, and Obi-Wan doesn’t even blanch or bat an eyelash at this? Doesn’t even notice that Darth Vader’s secret son clearly has the hots for his own fucking sister? These people are fucking morons!)

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:46 (eight years ago) link

Trailer doesn't reveal if they're bringing back Ice Cream Maker Guy.

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1451/willrow3.jpg

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link

Incest is more or less acceptable in the star wars universe

The Once-ler, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:11 (eight years ago) link

the thing with beating up on jedi is, yeah, it's not as good as empire but to move it down to the level of the prequels is basically like saying "i have never seen any other movies." specifically any other 80s fantasy or sci-fi adventure type movies. it towers above all of them, at the very least by virtue of the craft of an enormous design/effects team running basically round the clock and pulling out every trick in their toolbelts. okay, it's not blade runner, and it's not raiders of the lost ark... but everything else you could plausibly pitch it against, i think it comes out looking really good. it's not super focused and lucas/marquand (but seemingly mainly lucas) don't really have any big new ideas - hence such bad moves as "another death star" (but damn, that space battle, lando's big bombing run) and "leia's your sister" (i don't really care about this but sure, yeah, it creates pointless plot holes)... but it's fine, it's all fine, and in its best moments it produces star wars ~feelings~.

so even though we all agree the ewoks aren't so good now, it seems clear to me that if the new movie were as good as return of the jedi, that would be basically the rousing best-case scenario, return to classic old-school filmmaking etc. etc. nobody is seriously imagining something as good as empire being made in 2015; that unique mix of 70s hollywood and special-effects super-adventure is not coming back. the main thing it has to achieve is not just feeling like a disposable 2010s remake where everybody either immediately forgets it happened (like new total recall, new robocop) or hates it forever (like... the star wars prequels). getting past that point is the bare minimum for this to not feel so empty and hollow that it's as damaging to our impressions of the franchise as the prequels. somewhere between that minimum, and the "feels of a piece with return of the jedi" point could be about what i was hoping the prequels would be, back in 1997/98.

who knows? it's not impossible even with the bajillions of dollars sloshing around that it could be decent, good, or even very good. they'll never be necessary but the integrity-of-the-series ship already sailed with the prequels, so like i said when these new movies first got announced, the worst case scenario is actually a good one: a glut of bad latter-day star wars movies de-centers the prequels and detaches everything post-Jedi as "the later ones" that you really obviously don't have to watch to experience star wars. it'll be like the Oz books or the Boxcar Children, or direct-to-video sequels to kids' animated movies. the more Land Before Times there are (13, with #14 coming next year), the more clearly the first one comes into focus as the only Land Before Time.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:12 (eight years ago) link

rotj does not "tower" over conan the barbarian or the road warrior

balls, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:17 (eight years ago) link

Casino

https://media.giphy.com/media/ehnBGPgDOusUM/giphy.gif

Number None, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:22 (eight years ago) link

so even though we all agree the ewoks aren't so good now,

No. We don't! The biggest problems are pace and editing, which are the same problem. Thanks to the decision to hurry through basic plot points, none of the characters interact. Lando and Han? "Good luck -- you're gonna need it!" Leia and Han? "I love you. I know," pt. 2. The Vader-Luke scenes are awful, the Luke-Palpatine atrocious ("Soon I'll be dead. And you with me" -- huh?).

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:27 (eight years ago) link

okay i did forget the road warrior. conan, i dunno. it's good though. maybe "towers" is a bit much. it's definitely better than return to oz and the neverending story... though there's a lot good in both, especially in terms of the creepiness of the first and the sheer bleakness of the latter, which petersen clearly got from empire and from which jedi could have taken some cues. it's WAY better than labyrinth, "towers" is fair there. haven't seen dark crystal. it's better than dune, even if the design work and a few performances in that could have really helped it out.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:29 (eight years ago) link

https://instagram.com/p/9DN_LbsCtp/
okay, i like this guy

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:30 (eight years ago) link

it seems clear to me that if the new movie were as good as return of the jedi, that would be basically the rousing best-case scenario, return to classic old-school filmmaking etc. etc.

ROTJ is garbage school filmmaking. The first Star Wars is classic whatever.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:30 (eight years ago) link

Best bit of Ewok trivia is that not once in the film are they ever referred to as Ewoks, and yet, we all know they are called Ewoks. Hmm ...

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:30 (eight years ago) link

No. We don't! The biggest problems are pace and editing, which are the same problem.

^^^^ otfm

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:31 (eight years ago) link

lonely guy just angry baout things

https://twitter.com/TexanDMVLyfter/status/656596931251183616
https://twitter.com/TexanDMVLyfter/status/656597088361435136

goole, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:33 (eight years ago) link

Biggest prob I have with "Jedi" - apart from everything else - is that the film stock has shifted from that cool, gritty '70s look to that gross '80s look.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:33 (eight years ago) link

yeah everything bad about the ewoks came in the stuff after rotj, plus most of that is fanboys angry they didn't get some wookiee action. well they can take that wookiee and stick it up their yeah!

balls, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:34 (eight years ago) link

I liked the pace

The Once-ler, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:35 (eight years ago) link

like I don't think there's really that much conceptually wrong with any of the "new" stuff that showed p in ROTJ - Jabba and his crew, the ewoks, general lobster, new death star = sure why not, they're not any more or less ludicrous than stuff in the first movie (ewoks are basically cuter ugnaughts, which are basically just a riff from the Wizard of Oz), it's that storywise it's a slapped together mess. events just sort of happen in the clumsiest manner imaginable.

xxp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPXVaJKvSzY

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:38 (eight years ago) link

see but that's the thing, i'd agree about a number of those problems (though i think generally the problem is more that the plot isn't that interesting than pacing/editing specifically - we basically have three major 'chapters' in a row and most of the characters don't have conflicts they're dealing with or anything) --- but i don't think any of it makes it into this shambling mess of a movie, or an emperor who's been waiting thirty years for someone to point out it has no clothes. it's not "butt" as the kids are apparently saying. it's at worst fine and at best pretty darn good.

"garbage school filmmaking" within this genre would be, like, masters of the universe. i watched that recently and i can confidently say jedi "towers" in this case. it doesn't have to either be a masterpiece or incompetent dross. i'd say events just sort of happen in a pretty clumsy manner, y'know?

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:38 (eight years ago) link

it's basically they all meet at the club and then they get in a fight w/ these bros that were messing w/ leia but it's cool, no prob, then they take a camping trip and have this awesome cookout w/ these hippies they met and o yeah take down the empire.

balls, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:39 (eight years ago) link

Woah, kids are saying "butt"? That's news to me.

Let me guess - it's short for butt ugly

The Once-ler, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:41 (eight years ago) link

Alfred is otm. Also - "Conan the Barbarian" ain't that great, c'mon now. Most of the casting is atrocious. I realize Arnold was the only guy at the time who could've possibly played the role but the man seemed uncomfortable throughout. Even as a kid seeing it in its first run I thought - and yeah, I do remember thinking this - "This isn't the Conan I've read".

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:42 (eight years ago) link

conan the barbarian is amazing

goole, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:43 (eight years ago) link

idk if its better than Jedi

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:44 (eight years ago) link

it does maintain a consistent tone and atmosphere, which is something

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:44 (eight years ago) link

i do, it's better

goole, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:45 (eight years ago) link

Thulsa Doom should've been revealed as a bald old white guy when Conan kills him.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:45 (eight years ago) link

Casino, you're saying "Trust me, it's a good movie b/c I have good memories watching it."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:46 (eight years ago) link

beastmaster also better than rotj imo

balls, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:48 (eight years ago) link

I am..... Dar

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:50 (eight years ago) link

Listening to Kershner's commentary track on TESB was educational a decade ago. To deepen the characters, he'd add bits of business that weren't in the script: R2 on tiptoes eavesdropping on Yoda and Luke; a toolbox falling on Hans' head; Han and Threepio's battle, like out of a Laurel & Hardy picture, over the hyperdrive; Chewbaccca doing "Alas, poor Yorick" with Threepio's head; weird unexplained shit like Lobot opening his eyes. Lucas hated this stuff, according to Kershner, which, if true, says a lot about his attitude. Even unremarked bits of cinematographic finesse, like the Welles-ian shot of Imperial commanders in the Star Destroyer looking up at Vader pacing the deck giving the bounty hunters their orders.

The only reason the Star Wars movies have resonance is thanks to The Empire Strikes Back and its visual sumptuousness.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:51 (eight years ago) link

love The Beastmaster. Rip Torn with braids and skull + witches + John Amos + Tayna Roberts = yums.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:51 (eight years ago) link

these dudes

http://www.i-mockery.com/halloween/greatest/pics/beastmaster6.gif

balls, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:54 (eight years ago) link

+ directed by Don Coscarelli!

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:56 (eight years ago) link

http://comicbook.com/2015/10/20/star-wars-the-force-awakens-has-already-sold-6-5-million-in-imax/

The new numbers coming in from IMAX state the film has already claimed $6.5 million worth of IMAX screenings in advanced tickets sales. The previous single-day advanced sales record for IMAX screenings was less than $1 million.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:57 (eight years ago) link

@ Alfred - I'm not, really. Just suggesting that recognizing it's not an A+ or even a B+ doesn't mean it has to be demoted to a D. I'd give it a solid B, though if you were blindfolded and couldn't enjoy the incredible miniature, effects, compositing and animation work, then it'd be down in the C range, as the story and character stuff is quite ropey and unexciting apart from the inherent pathos of Luke's quest.

I am, admittedly, saying that it is enjoyable to watch, which I do think is a sign it may not be garbage film-making. Is some of that enjoyment down to memories of watching it on earlier occasions? Sure, probably, that's inevitable. But there's shit I liked as a kid that I really can't sit through now, that not only doesn't "hold up" but for which "holding up" doesn't even seem the appropriate criterion (thinking here of a recent, unpleasant experience watching The Sandlot)... and Return of the Jedi isn't that.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:57 (eight years ago) link

Can't believe that Burneko writes x thousand words about why as the films came out they got worse and worse and doesn't mention the name 'George Lucas' once.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:00 (eight years ago) link

I mean, I get that the pitch was "write something about the new film", and once you admit the linking factor is missing, you're pretty much just doing therapy in the round, but FFS.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:01 (eight years ago) link

Jedi has so many good parts tbh, but yeah the pacing...that space battle is one of the best things in the trilogy and you intercut it with an "okay" forest battle scene and luke (and the viewer) being forced to listen to the emperor drone on.

nomar, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:01 (eight years ago) link

it does however feature words like "dick-shitter." there are seven "dick"s and thirteen "shits," and actually "butt" only shows up twice but "fuck" is also in there thirteen times. hard to fit in "george lucas" at that point.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:04 (eight years ago) link

Also I think he's completely wrong about it being the film's ruination that Vader isn't a cartoon villain - it's the mirror edge of Luke being a dark-wearing force choking badass in the first half of the film, and that kind of hippyish outlook is def. part of the series success.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:04 (eight years ago) link

You want to see a good John Milius film? Watch "Dillinger".

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:04 (eight years ago) link

Conan towers over Jedi easily.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:04 (eight years ago) link

Meanwhile, coordination. (This is about the group tracking everything in the current fictional universe and how things are doled out/planned/assigned:)

http://www.gamesradar.com/how-do-you-keep-track-everything-massive-star-wars-universe/

A fave quote:

Kieron Gillen is writing for one of the most iconic characters in popular culture. Set between A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back, Darth Vader picks up the Sith Lord’s story after Han Solo sent his TIE Fighter spinning. “We pitched freely in that [time period], but I’m a writer who knows how story works,” says Gillen. “There’s a start to this story – Vader, disgraced, after the loss of the Death Star. There’s an end to this story – Vader, on the bridge of the Executor, more powerful than ever, hunting his son across the universe. I’m not going to pitch a story that doesn’t tell how Darth Vader got from one to another, y’know? Even with my reputation, I’m not going to suggest an arc where Darth Vader packs it in and becomes a superstar DJ in the Star Warsian equivalent of Ibiza.”

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:09 (eight years ago) link

ehhh the forest battle maybe rises a little above "okay." ernest goes to camp's forest battle was "okay." but you're not wrong exactly. the forest leg is definitely the movie's weakest in part because there is just no character story being told at all since leia and han don't have one. luke is on a quest but the rest of them are just getting into some scrapes - together again, here we go, gang! that's not super compelling.

but i think the emperor stuff all works. it would be better if it was its own, super-tense thing by itself, without the intercutting... luke gradually realizing maybe he's fucked up and his big hunch isn't going to work out at all. hammill probably plays him a little too confidently throughout, also. but i still think it's got great atmosphere, with that awesome set. and mcdiarmid's ice-cold galaxy-ruling monk motherfucker is great. you can see why lucas kept going, wrongly, back to the well of "character confrontation scene with major space battle as backdrop outside."

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:10 (eight years ago) link

rotj looked pretty poor in comparison with the first of the new Star Trek films. good news i guess for the new films!

piscesx, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:14 (eight years ago) link

Was it Jedi that had the giant asteroid worm?

The Once-ler, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:21 (eight years ago) link

i don't have a problem with the emperor stuff in theory, i just think the glacial pace of those scenes is a poor substitute for tension. like we know vader and luke are going to do battle again, the emperor just has to give a two day speech while they stand there.

nomar, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:23 (eight years ago) link

asteroid worm = ESB

nomar, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:23 (eight years ago) link

By Jedi they were just too focused on making the particular Luke-Vader myth payoff. It was never really the central focus of the movies until after Empire came out. When they dropped the twist in Empire it really doomed Jedi to be the cleanup episode. Too many soap opera style speeches not enough space exploration.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:29 (eight years ago) link

Also the tone of Jedi is just cartoony, even wo the Ewoks. There are a few Harrison lines that should have been delivered deadpan and have this really over the top wide eyed "Whaddaya gunna do?" performance to them instead. Or for example when he is sneaking up to that one stormtrooper in the woods and he steps on a branch and everyone is looking on from the side. Straight out of a Scooby Doo cartoon.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:30 (eight years ago) link

Palpatine is more interesting having watched the prequels, but even for 8-year-old me he was a sorry Emperor: the cackling, sloshing what Pauline Kale called tobacco juice in his mouth to make him look sinister, the lame dialogue.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:39 (eight years ago) link

I do like the Emperor's choice of throne room: an abandoned control room or something.

What also doomed 8-year-old me was reading the "novelization" of the movie, which had the back stories and temptations fleshed out that the movie didn't. Worth noting: the Emperor wasn't a Sith, but a lowly bureaucrat with the right combination of guile and luck who got lucky.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:41 (eight years ago) link

to an extent that's still true

balls, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:43 (eight years ago) link

alfred, not sure if you saw that bill kristol came out with an argument in favor of the empire.

nomar, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:55 (eight years ago) link

I remeber an attack scene where papers are flying around like an indoor tornado and blue lights were flashing up the dark room occasionally revealing the emperor's hellish face.... That scene rocked. At Least I remember it rocking.

The Once-ler, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:57 (eight years ago) link

take out the speeder bike, some Jabba bits and the stuff with Vader and Luke and ROTJ is pretty thin. the Yoda bit is cringe-y in particular.

piscesx, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:58 (eight years ago) link

i could imagine a plausible slate pitch arguing rots is better than rotj

balls, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:59 (eight years ago) link

alfred, not sure if you saw that bill kristol came out with an argument in favor of the empire.

― nomar, Tuesday, October 20, 2015

the Empire will compensate him if he dies!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 00:02 (eight years ago) link

ace poster when it was first announced mind

http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Return-of-the-Jedi-Poster-2-05032015.jpg

piscesx, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 00:04 (eight years ago) link

^^ a Burger King collector's cup waiting to happen

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 00:08 (eight years ago) link

just realized I want a space pirate SW film directed by Robert Rodriguez

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 00:59 (eight years ago) link

dude, totally.
STAR KIDS
for that, i would buy advance tickets

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 01:04 (eight years ago) link

http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltr73nHgDf1qzgpx9.gif

balls, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 01:54 (eight years ago) link

ha, there's alot of RONG and rmde in the deadspin piece (go figure) but this is great:

After wearing Luke out with furious lightsaber skills from one end of Cloud City to the other; after bashing him to a pulp with flying space toasters; after blasting Luke out of a window and chasing him out to the end of a lonely windblown plank far from everyone who has ever known or cared about him, he lops the little pissant’s entire hand right the fuck off and then, then, only then, figures the time is right to go, Oh and also, I fucked your mom.

balls, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:06 (eight years ago) link

I haven't really thought about Star Wars in years, but after reading this thread and thinking about it, I've decided The Wrath of Khan>>>>>>Return of the Jedi

JacobSanders, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:17 (eight years ago) link

was that ever in doubt?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:20 (eight years ago) link

That poster is incredible.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:22 (eight years ago) link

Khan is better than all the Star Wars movies

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:22 (eight years ago) link

btw is Scanners the best use of The Force in a context outside Star Wars?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:22 (eight years ago) link

love this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tP5tZ_ekXs

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:26 (eight years ago) link

Khan is better than all the Star Wars movies

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, October 20, 2015 10:22 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Def all but Empire. Empire is really amazing though.

I would have a hard time picking. Yoda and the whole Dagoba thing is incredible. The Luke-Vader reveal at its most shocking. The extreme chiaroscuro lightsaber fights. Millennium Falcon pulling out the incredible asteroid belt chase. So many brilliant moments. The ending shot is insanely beautiful.

Khan is classic and has the better performances but the world design in Star Wars is formidable.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:29 (eight years ago) link

There are several points in Khan where the film really slows to a crawl and characters just sit down and reflect. Which is not bad, it's a different movie, but Empire has a more engaging pacing imo.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:31 (eight years ago) link

impossible to give a shit about kirk's son in khan; not sure there's a comparable weakness in empire. otherwise a masterpiece obv.

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:35 (eight years ago) link

i'll go empire over khan also but as someone who was on board w/ star wars literally almost as far back as i can remember and someone who only really watched tos a couple of years ago and always kinda scoffed at star trek in general (though i somehow ended up seeing all the movies and enjoying most of them) i will say the kirk-spock-bones interplay TOWERS over luke-leia-han. kirk also more of a badass than han though han way more plausible a ladykiller (nevermind lando).

balls, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:35 (eight years ago) link

I don't mind it -- Khan has a good script, and as a result those hanging out scenes with Kirk and the crew are Shatner at his most likable imo.

Empire is a visual triumph.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:35 (eight years ago) link

i will say the kirk-spock-bones interplay TOWERS over luke-leia-han.

star trek has people in it.

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:37 (eight years ago) link

I was seven when Khan was released (a big deal too -- I remember it was the movie that Trekkies thought it was the movie of their dreams), so can't remember how loud the scoffing was at Mr. Rourke playing a supervillain.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:37 (eight years ago) link

* uh, the movie of Trekkies' dreams

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:37 (eight years ago) link

is Montalban's Melville quote the best delivery of this line? Better than Gregory Peck's at any rate.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:38 (eight years ago) link

xps- not that the characters are much deeper than star wars' as written (tho i agree the hegelian spock-bones-kirk relationship is way more important than sw's campbell stuff) but the actors had had so much time to build out the roles.

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:40 (eight years ago) link

all of montalban's deliveries are the best deliveries.

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:40 (eight years ago) link

from a tos purist perspective khan is actually kind of a sellout, right -- straight hornblower space opera instead of high-concept exploration. star wars with olds. but then i guess the tos purist knows the whole point is the crew anyway.

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:41 (eight years ago) link

THIIIS IS CEETI ALPHA V!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:43 (eight years ago) link

i feel bad now cuz my uncle who knew i LOVED star wars took me to the star trek movie thinking i know 'alright kid, get ready for the real deal', he wasn't a trekkie but he loved trek, and man five year old or whatever me was just not on board w/ star trek: the motion picture. i know when i was a little kid i used to say 'i'm bored' alot, almost reflexively, and i can't even imagine what a little turd i was coming out of that thing.

balls, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:43 (eight years ago) link

yeah i think from the tos perspective the movies were way too militaristic (although they address this kinda in khan!); that kinda hornblower stuff is catnip for me though, if/when i get old i'm pretty much just gonna sit around w/ my dogs and read patrick o'brian novels all day.

balls, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:45 (eight years ago) link

pretty sure the cast said the same thing

xpost

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:45 (eight years ago) link

my pet amongst the towering montalban inflections is "of course! we are one big happy fleet!"

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:46 (eight years ago) link

There's that moment when Chekhov and the Paul Winfield character realize Khan is serious about putting those worms in their helmets when the camera cuts to Montalban not going for the grand effect but standing with a small, deeply satisfied grin that's more evil than any Palpatine cackle.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:48 (eight years ago) link

It's really a funny comparison, since Star Trek is all about looking back in that movie. They have Kirk's birthday and the old man glasses. There is a lot of "We're getting too old for this" in the Bones-Kirk talk. And they bring back an old villain from the show. It's funny since Star Wars seems to be the most unashamedly self-cannibalizing nowadays.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:48 (eight years ago) link

Montalban's Khan definitely better than all of the SW villains.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:49 (eight years ago) link

Emperor Palpatine's menace always undercut by the fact that he tends to deliver his lines like he's the lead vocalist for The Trashmen

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:50 (eight years ago) link

vader's pretty awesome in empire

balls, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:50 (eight years ago) link

The Abrams trek flicks are kinda pathetic in how they're unable to forge an original path imo. And the whole alternate timeline thing is such bs.

nomar, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:51 (eight years ago) link

much love for grand moff tarkin also fwiw

balls, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:51 (eight years ago) link

Imperial Walkers had some serious design flaws

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:51 (eight years ago) link

Vader kills half of his officers.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:52 (eight years ago) link

the emperor is a lesser prototype for dourif's wormtongue

nomar, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:52 (eight years ago) link

"It would be unfortunate if I had to leave a garrison here."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:52 (eight years ago) link

I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt to Vader's chosen managerial style

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:53 (eight years ago) link

the only effective empire military officer was afaik the general who led the hoth attack

nomar, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:53 (eight years ago) link

Vader tends to ice people quicker prior to 3 years of vesting service so he can roll their pensions back into the plan

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:54 (eight years ago) link

much love for grand moff tarkin also fwiw

there's a recurring shot of g.m. tarkin in profile, fingers to chin, watching the battle of yavin, that pops into the battle sequence from time to time and iirc is also the last or second-to-last shot before the death star blows up: i love this shot

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:54 (eight years ago) link

Love how Kershner shows Vader without a helmet w/out, again, explaining. He could have filmed Vader kickin it with a scotch in his chambers; instead we realize Vader is human after all.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:54 (eight years ago) link

That scene w Vader putting his helmet on was insane.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:54 (eight years ago) link

there's a recurring shot of g.m. tarkin in profile, fingers to chin, watching the battle of yavin, that pops into the battle sequence from time to time and iirc is also the last or second-to-last shot before the death star blows up: i love this shot

as a kid I thought, "Aw, he didn't even know he was killed."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:55 (eight years ago) link

in the early '80s mega franchise sweepstakes, rank the following:

Khan
Darth Vader
General Zod

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:55 (eight years ago) link

Vader's unhelmeted orange-tinted melon head gave me nightmares as a kid

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:56 (eight years ago) link

"It would be unfortunate if I had to leave a garrison here."

vader often mordantly funny in empire. pray i don't alter it any further.

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:56 (eight years ago) link

Vader kills half of his officers.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

i know! in star wars he's this kinda free agent muscle that tarkin let's off the leash, in rotj he's a chump but in empire he manages this total scary fucking relentless powerful evil that will outsmart you at every turn at cloud city while also being horrible at management. he's basically jordan and all those officers are kwame brown.

balls, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:56 (eight years ago) link

vader often mordantly funny in empire. pray i don't alter it any further.

― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour),

and Lando touches his throat -- Vader sending the faintest of Force squeezes.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:57 (eight years ago) link

so pro

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:59 (eight years ago) link

i know! in star wars he's this kinda free agent muscle that tarkin let's off the leash

from what I know of the published slash fic this is kinda what happened: the Emperor's top officer killed erased the line between military and this helmeted dude with the sorcerer's ways. At that point he officially became second in command.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:59 (eight years ago) link

also love how in ESB Vader completely loses interest in Leia after obsessing over her plans in the previous movie.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 03:00 (eight years ago) link

rots is awful but i did like seeing some dude at the end that was supposed to be muppet baby tarkin

balls, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 03:00 (eight years ago) link

My dad fucking lied to me when I first watched Empire as like an 8 year old and said that Hamill's hand really got lopped off in the film and they gave him a prosthetic but he didn't care cos he was rich now

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 03:01 (eight years ago) link

he was rich in the Force

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 03:01 (eight years ago) link

Way off-topic and late to the preview game but is Luke's lightsaber basically Excalibur/the One Ring in this next chapter?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 03:01 (eight years ago) link

the only star wars macguffin that matters

http://thestarwarssagacast.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/042GloveofDarthVader.jpg

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 03:02 (eight years ago) link

one thing that's so weird about the incest thing is the luke-leia kiss and 'no, there is another' were in the SAME movie. like dude work that out. it's not like there was that much romantic tension between luke and leia in star wars to overcome (it was obv as hell the pirate and the princess would end up together).

balls, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 03:03 (eight years ago) link

also worth noting how the movies save Vader's lightsaber prowess for epic duels. When I was a kid this stoked anticipation ("when's he using it? when's he using it?").

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 03:03 (eight years ago) link

lol smell the glove

balls, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 03:03 (eight years ago) link

NO disintegrations.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 03:05 (eight years ago) link

i think the reason ROTS (being the 'darkest' of the three prequels) infuriated me so much is that it took a huge shit on Vader's mystique. After years of speculation and hypothesizing about the myriad of events that actually led Anakin to become Vader, he find out the little whiny fucker joined the dark side cos he had a coupla bad dreams

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 03:10 (eight years ago) link

Don't forget purple lipstick

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 03:11 (eight years ago) link

kenobi talking abt the clone wars in the og trilogy was this wonderful hinting at a grand history, seeing it depicted was like taking a time machine to a bad day at hot topic in 1999.

nomar, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 04:06 (eight years ago) link

It's funny since Star Wars seems to be the most unashamedly self-cannibalizing nowadays.

did you see the last Star Trek movie?

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 04:10 (eight years ago) link

One of the really effective bits for me in Jedi was when Luke finally snaps and just starts wailing away at Vader. We finally see him be a warrior.

The film opening with the shot of him in a cloak building his lightsaber would have improved things.

Unfortunately, Marquand died before he could do his commentary track.

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 04:12 (eight years ago) link

Man it's weird watching the cut footage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1qyXxLIXLw

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 04:20 (eight years ago) link

did you see the last Star Trek movie?

i didn't, bcz it was made by some unimaginative canniabalistic hater

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 04:25 (eight years ago) link

Star Trek Into Darkness is such a garbage movie

nomar, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 04:27 (eight years ago) link

i didn't, bcz it was made by some unimaginative canniabalistic hater

Pretty much, yeah

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 04:27 (eight years ago) link

Also, go to 10:35 in that ESB vid I posted for the Lobot. ILX doesn't like YT timecodes.

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 04:28 (eight years ago) link

Also good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cLRKVT2IHg

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 06:34 (eight years ago) link

one thing that's so weird about the incest thing is the luke-leia kiss and 'no, there is another' were in the SAME movie. like dude work that out. it's not like there was that much romantic tension between luke and leia in star wars to overcome (it was obv as hell the pirate and the princess would end up together).

Luke's sister was originally meant to be a new character, who was named in Leigh Brackett's draft of the Empire script (Vader wasn't Luke's father at this point either). They only decided on using Leia during the writing of ROTJ

Number None, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 06:46 (eight years ago) link

from what I know of the published slash fic this is kinda what happened: the Emperor's top officer killed erased the line between military and this helmeted dude with the sorcerer's ways. At that point he officially became second in command.

In the new canon the opposite has happened - the Emperor summons him and explains that he's second only to him in the Force, but he's also the highest-ranking survivor of the biggest military disaster in history, so he'll be reporting to General Arsehole for the forseeable.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 09:48 (eight years ago) link

What's with all these 'actor posts reaction on internet' vids? Seems a bit set up to me.

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 09:49 (eight years ago) link

they are actors tbf

Number None, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 10:22 (eight years ago) link

I mean set up by the general production team, or marketing gimmick etc

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 11:13 (eight years ago) link

.. they're kids. Kids do this stuff a lot.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 11:17 (eight years ago) link

Having read John Boyega's Twitter for a while, I have no doubt that reaction was real and unprompted. He's a fanboy who got into the franchise and couldn't be more excited.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 12:09 (eight years ago) link

I wonder if there's a Star Wars torrent release in which someone took out any bad changes George Lucas made for the special edition/dvd/Blu-ray releases of Star Wars and edited in deleted scenes or music that should of been kept.

The Once-ler, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 12:17 (eight years ago) link

There is! Google the "despecialized" editions

Number None, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 12:29 (eight years ago) link

Nice

The Once-ler, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 12:36 (eight years ago) link

They're pretty amazing pieces of work. HD too

Number None, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 12:38 (eight years ago) link

yeah they're youths, youths post vids of their reaction to everything. harrison ford did something similar- http://youtu.be/4aDFeFwxymA

balls, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 13:06 (eight years ago) link

There's a ton of bootleg recut SW movies out there. My faves are the one that smooshes the prequels into one long movie minus most of the garbage and Jar Jar-ing and the grindhouse version of ANH (featuring blood and '70s music).

Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 13:23 (eight years ago) link

so i know we've moved on but just for the record:

Empire >> Wrath of Khan >> Star Wars >>>>>>>>>>>>> Star Trek the Motion Picture >>> Return of the Jedi >>>>>> The Search for Spock

but obviously those could flop positions a lot based on whether one's feeling a star trek kinda movie or a star wars kinda movie. the voyage home would be above motion picture but not close to star wars - good disposable 80s comedy movie but come on. the final frontier would be down somewhere with masters of the universe.

it's tough. wrath of khan is a fantastic space drama with a brilliant tear-jerker finale, two giant-sized and deliciously hammy performances at the center, and yeah, really strong character relationships. it would be just as gripping as a stage play i think, and in fact a lot of it is really filmed like that: here are our characters talking. so if empire isn't shakespeare, it's so thrilling and so visually rich. almost every shot is iconic, almost every location overflows with the creativity of the team of people working on it. khan did not have the same kind of budget, obviously, but really most of it feels like an episode of the TV show, except for the botany bay sequence and the effects. i think that goes a long way in terms of which i'd rather spend an hour and a half looking at again. plus fisher/ford is a lot of fun to watch.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 13:46 (eight years ago) link

cool new poster for the imax release

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--ktTXKcmS--/1483742385134576303.jpg

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 13:48 (eight years ago) link

huh, who's the artist there?

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 13:50 (eight years ago) link

that is supercool.

how's life, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 13:51 (eight years ago) link

I'd be curious to rank the ST IV-VI and the prequels. Voyage home at the top obv, undiscovered country at #2 imo. Final frontier compared to the prequels would be a tough pick, a real Sophie's Choice for #3.

nomar, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 13:51 (eight years ago) link

http://www.dan-mumford.com/

how's life, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 13:54 (eight years ago) link

The Empire Strikes Back is the best film that millions (and millions) of dollars can buy.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 13:55 (eight years ago) link

final frontier is shorter than any of the prequels, i'll give it that. and there are maybe two or three minutes scattered around where it seems like there might be something interesting in play in a hard sci-fi "asks the big questions" way as in prometheus. IIRC that's all immediately discarded for a really stupid mind-control story or something and then a big head throws rocks at them but again, only 106 minutes. i haven't seen it since i was a kid, which is also very much in its favor - the oppressive familiarity of the prequels from endless TV airings, always on in the background somewhere, ALWAYS on when i'm home at christmas, has made me basically loathe every single frame of footage.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 13:57 (eight years ago) link

i went to see a marathon of all five star trek movies at my local cinema when V came out. boy, that day came to a bleak end.

please don't shampoo your eyes (stevie), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:48 (eight years ago) link

i read that as "all five shrek movies" and had a vision of living hell

1999 ball boy (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link

Star Trek achieved its ideal form first, as an hourlong TV series; II and VI are the only films i can see rewatching in the future.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link

VI or IV?

please don't shampoo your eyes (stevie), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link

I don't think I've seen any of the Next Generation movies, nor the last two with the original cast. Maybe I should do that?

JacobSanders, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link

six! st IV too sitcommy.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 16:09 (eight years ago) link

first contact is by far the best next gen trek movie, better than all the OG cast flicks except II and IV imo

nomar, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 16:11 (eight years ago) link

Maybe see First Contact. It's mediocre, but definitely has more going on than the other three Next Gens.

jmm, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link

Star Trek: Insurrection is one of the worst movies I have seen in a theater, ever

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link

I remember VI being pretty satisfying except for the ghastly stuff with Kirk and the shapeshifter on the prison planet. I think IV's a more fun movie in that 80s comedy way but VI is the best besides II at doing what you'd want Star Trek to do: sorta slow and talky, diplomatic intrigues and a murder mystery in space... but with real money put into the space battle effects and another outsized scenery-chewing villain. The end-of-the-Cold-War theming is also nicely done... much better than, say, Goldeneye at teasing the "have I become a dinosaur, nursing old wounds and fighting yesterday's battles?" thing. Would have been a totally fine sendoff for the whole shebang, Generations being wretched and none of the all-TNG movies being quite good enough to justify the effort (with Insurrection actually worse than Final Frontier by any reasonable standard).

The Motion Picture is also good but I'd recommend it more to fans of slow 70s sci-fi like Silent Running or The Andromeda Strain than fans of Trek.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 16:14 (eight years ago) link

The Motion Picture is beautiful to look at, but offers little else, imo.

please don't shampoo your eyes (stevie), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 16:15 (eight years ago) link

I'd rank the ones I've seen khan>voyage home>undiscovered country (this one is better than first contact too actually>first contact>sttmp>search for spock>>>>final frontier and the rest

nomar, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

the motion picture is a '70s scifi flick in both the best and worst senses. really amazing production design for sure.

nomar, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 16:18 (eight years ago) link

Morbz otm that II and VI are the best ST pics (IV is enjoyable but it is slight). III is okay, V is obviously straight garbage. I is an interesting failure, kinda want to see it on the big screen cuz it's all visuals and nothing but.

I don't rate Empire over Khan tho, as dlh says - Khan has people in it. Empire has action figures.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link

(Meanwhile, Shakey steeples his finger, pleased with what this thread has wrought)

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link

Khan's a cyborg though

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link

xxposts ehhh different strokes. i like ebert on this point:

The film was made in 1980 with full knowledge that ``Star Wars'' had become the most successful movie of all time. If corners were cut in the first film's budget, no cost was spared in this one: It is a visual extravaganza from beginning to end, one of the most visionary and inventive of all films. (...) There is a generosity in the production design of ``The Empire Strikes Back.'' There are not only the amazing sights there before us, but plenty more in the corners of the screen, or everywhere the camera turns. (...)

In the glory days of science fiction, critics wrote about the ``sense of wonder.'' That's what ``The Empire Strikes Back'' creates in us. Like a lot of traditional science fiction, it isn't psychologically complex or even very interested in personalities (aside from some obvious character traits). That's because the characters are not themselves--they are us. We are looking out through their eyes, instead of into them, as we would in more serious drama. We are on a quest, on a journey, on a mythological expedition. The story elements in the ``Star Wars'' trilogy are as deep and universal as storytelling itself. Watching these movies, we're in a receptive state like that of a child--our eyes and ears are open, we're paying attention, and we are amazed.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link

creepiest Montalban line reading: "buried allliiive"

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link

Kinda hoping that for any scene with both Oscar Isaac and Adam Driver, John Williams throws in a few bars of "Please, Mr. Kennedy."

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 17:01 (eight years ago) link

haha yes

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link

I had no idea Oscar Isaac was in this, that's weird

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link

he's in that new trailer twice!

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link

there's a new trailer?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 17:06 (eight years ago) link

I feel like this is probably not an original statement, but a lot of what I love about Star Wars is just its success at hinting at a much larger and very real universe (or galaxy or w/e) of which the movies only scratch the surface. I think I find all the novels and encyclopediae and the like not only boring, but something I don't even want to touch, because I prefer retaining that sense of peering in and only getting a glimpse of the vastness. The cantina bar scene is a great example -- who the fuck are all these creatures? It doesn't really matter, yet they are all there, obviously from all different species and possibly planets, all part of some sort of seedy element -- smugglers, bounty hunters, maybe drug dealers, who knows? It's not interesting to me at all to find out, it's just interesting to me the way the scene creates an excellent illusion with limited resources.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 17:10 (eight years ago) link

yup

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link

Ep V, we're suddenly on Hoth. What the fuck is Hoth? Where is it? Childhood me wonders. But it doesn't matter that much, it's a harsh, frozen place and presumably a good location for a rebel base for that reason. But at the same time, it's not just a set, it has its own animal life. Does that animal life really help advance the plot? Not exactly, it's only good for a couple of meh sub-episodes, but it helps flesh out Hoth as a place that feels real.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 17:14 (eight years ago) link

Lucas was just working through the seasons. Summer was covered with Tattooine, winter on Hoth, spring on Endor. Much of the action on The Force Awakens will take place on the leafy planet of Foliagea.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 17:31 (eight years ago) link

Judging from the trailer, we're getting all three seasons in one film. Desert, snow, lakeside greenery

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 22:37 (eight years ago) link

They released a music-only edit of the trailer and it might actually be better than the one we saw Monday...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci0C8ggQWys

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 22:45 (eight years ago) link

Something that always irked me was ... well, a couple of things. With a few exceptions, there seemed to be just one of every creature - one wookie, one greedo, one whatever. Stuff like Jawas excepted. And then also the specificity of some of the tech, like the AT-AT's, which seem like they were designed for Hoth and nothing else. Minor quibbles, obviously, compared to major quibbles.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 22:53 (eight years ago) link

There was a Greedo(Rodian) in Jabba's palace

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 23:06 (eight years ago) link

seem like they were designed for Hoth and nothing else.

well it is an entire PLANET...

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 23:10 (eight years ago) link

There are AT-ATs on Endor, they showed one in a zoomed-out view of the base

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 23:11 (eight years ago) link

One wookiee? Someone forgot the holiday special!

Not to mention that scene shoehorned into the prequels where Yoda is surrounded by them and shouts out Chewbacca

Several Twi'lek in Jabba's palace

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 23:12 (eight years ago) link

"these chainsaws and french fries and haikus and umbrellas... they seem like they were designed just for Earth and nowhere else"

but yeah the species do mix it up quite a bit, you don't get big hordes of wookies taunting hordes of humans etc (that we ever see, at least)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link

that said we are pretty much always in a non-family type environment - backwater trading outpost canteens, forward operating bases, etc - so it makes sense that we don't see what are the usual larger species groupings of these dudes

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 23:15 (eight years ago) link

lol yes

and Endor of course!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 23:16 (eight years ago) link

It's like going to a popular bar in a port of trade and wondering why there's one dude there from Brazil, one from China, and a bunch of locals.

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 23:21 (eight years ago) link

and in ESB there's the briefest of glimpses of the AT-ST fighter that'll play a big part in the Endor battle.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 23:25 (eight years ago) link

I feel like this is probably not an original statement, but a lot of what I love about Star Wars is just its success at hinting at a much larger and very real universe (or galaxy or w/e) of which the movies only scratch the surface

Also not a very original observation, but this is one reason why the prequels sucked: in this allegedly vast and real universe the same 5 characters keep meeting up/being involved in everything important that happens; it makes the original films' rich texture feel very thin

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 23:33 (eight years ago) link

when the bounty hunter in ROTJ turns out to be leia it's that hinted limitlessness that makes the reveal feel like such a miracle - like, out of all the bounty hunters in all the crappy gin joints in all the universe somehow leia has wound up here?? impossible

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 23:37 (eight years ago) link

have disliked star wars since age 4

it's not a tuomas (benbbag), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 23:37 (eight years ago) link

So you've hated it for 2 whole years?!?

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 23:41 (eight years ago) link

Not enough references in SW to the demographic trends leading to rebel support in outer rim planets for gabbneb.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 22 October 2015 00:26 (eight years ago) link

You should go harder on the German angle

it's not a tuomas (benbbag), Thursday, 22 October 2015 00:26 (eight years ago) link

He says, after soaking his extremities in ice water for no less than five minutes, followed by a generous treatment of aloe and petroleum jelly, and then taking the better part of an hour typing out 39 characters with digits covered in gauze

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Thursday, 22 October 2015 00:38 (eight years ago) link

have disliked star wars since age 4

― it's not a tuomas (benbbag), Thursday, October 22, 2015 12:37 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You have trolled us for the last time, GABBNEB!

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 00:45 (eight years ago) link

As someone who liked the pre-prequels extended universe more than the movies (the Thrawn trilogy esp) has anyone created a convoluted but convincing explanation as to how the Empire became the dominant power and the old, creaky, bureaucratic Empire in the span of 20 years?

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 22 October 2015 01:17 (eight years ago) link

The institution of a flat tax

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 01:19 (eight years ago) link

I think it was just b/c the Old Republic was the dominant power, and it was usurped from within. Tarkin mentions that the Senate has been dissolved and regional governors now have direct control.

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Thursday, 22 October 2015 01:20 (eight years ago) link

It always aggravated the shit out of me that S-Palp is so easily able to dupe everybody in all three films...

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 01:25 (eight years ago) link

Prequels that is

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 01:25 (eight years ago) link

Anakin's defection reduced to a moment of "ahh, fuck it..."

I mean Anakin was always spoken of in reverent terms in the original trilogy who lost his way to the Dark side....

And yet there isn't a moment in the prequels where he isn't a petulant hotheaded, selfish piece of shit that commits genocide in a village in a fit of anger and has extremely creepy obsession with Padme that she for no discernible reason reciprocates.

I know people are revered in death etc but they really shat on his character arc

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 01:38 (eight years ago) link

There is not a single motivation anyone has in the prequels which make any sense.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 22 October 2015 02:10 (eight years ago) link

You have trolled us for the last time, GABBNEB!

― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, October 21, 2015 8:45 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm not trolling. the stormtroopers made me cry. a few years later, i was afraid of the stove at a place we spent the night on vacation because it looked like darth vader's helmet.

turns out i had a pretty good instinct about shitty fucking coca-cola/windows movies.

it's not a tuomas (benbbag), Thursday, 22 October 2015 02:12 (eight years ago) link

or you were a four year old that was scared of shit once

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 02:17 (eight years ago) link

and an instinct for shitty fucking coca-cola/windows politicians

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 October 2015 02:22 (eight years ago) link

and an instinct for shitty fucking coca-cola/windows politicians

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:22 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

welcome to america. i'm not choosing what movie to see/band to like when i vote, the great category error of the alternative-favorers.

(i'll pass on the stupid misjudgment of people you don't know)

it's not a tuomas (benbbag), Thursday, 22 October 2015 02:29 (eight years ago) link

or you were a four year old that was scared of shit once

― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:17 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or, you know, both

it's not a tuomas (benbbag), Thursday, 22 October 2015 02:29 (eight years ago) link

Thank you for taking the time to share your moral stance with us. You are both brave and an inspiration.

Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 October 2015 02:42 (eight years ago) link

and have pointed out that you have been otm in this thread

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 03:07 (eight years ago) link

which are you. don't believe me? ask you!

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 03:07 (eight years ago) link

*you are. got me so upset I'm typing backwards

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 03:08 (eight years ago) link

being scared of the villains in a movie isn't really "disliking" it imo

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 22 October 2015 03:13 (eight years ago) link

I had vivid nightmares about Sesame Street as a kid and I still watched the fuck out of it

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 03:15 (eight years ago) link

(usually the Count, but weirdly had one w/ Grover and another with Big Bird)

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 03:15 (eight years ago) link

really hoping this is all the setup to baggles declaring his intention to become a stormtrooper-themed superhero, to strike terror into the hearts of his enemies

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 22 October 2015 03:32 (eight years ago) link

i haven't been reading this thread because lol but the part in the trailer that made me cringe was mr. ren going "i will finish what you started" to vader's mask like wtf did vader start? did anyone alive at the end of ROTJ other than luke ever see him as more than just a prominent military leader? dude wasn't like spreading pamphlets about the dark side all over foreign planets or leading any seminars

qualx, Thursday, 22 October 2015 03:57 (eight years ago) link

He's planning a trip to the imperial VA to kill off any surviving officers

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Thursday, 22 October 2015 04:00 (eight years ago) link

ren is supposed to be some sort of sith scholar/collector/obsessive, no?

diamonddave85​ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 22 October 2015 04:02 (eight years ago) link

he's going to lust after women that babysat him when he was young

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 04:08 (eight years ago) link

kind of insane we learned absolutely nothing about the sith in the prequel trilogy.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 October 2015 04:14 (eight years ago) link

would you say it's.... pretty sneaky?

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 October 2015 06:10 (eight years ago) link

kind of insane we learned absolutely nothing about the sith in the prequel trilogy.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, October 22, 2015 12:14 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

kind of insane we learned absolutely nothing about anticipating new star wars movies after the prequel trilogy.

dave cool goes to "Chill Whiney" Ironic dance parties (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 22 October 2015 06:21 (eight years ago) link

being scared of the villains in a movie isn't really "disliking" it imo

― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:13 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tears don't really express fear btw fyi

Sabato Gigante (benbbag), Thursday, 22 October 2015 06:23 (eight years ago) link

oh im not anticipating this. prequels ruined it for me, i definitely learned my lesson. ill probably torrent it

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 October 2015 07:11 (eight years ago) link

actually ROTJ Special Edition new song and dance is what ruined it for me.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 October 2015 07:12 (eight years ago) link

I appreciate scepticism of blockbusters and giant franchise machines in general, but considering the person / producers responsible for the prequels or the meddling with the special editions have nothing to do with this it's not really relevant experience.

abcfsk, Thursday, 22 October 2015 09:23 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, because JJ Abrams has never ever fucked up an old revered sci-fi franchise :)

I try to pay attention, because everyone else is paying attention, I read this enormous thread, for instance, but I'm beginning to realize how little I care. Mainly because people use character names already, and I have no idea who they're talking about, and even how they know?

Frederik B, Thursday, 22 October 2015 10:13 (eight years ago) link

There are sites that you can go to, which will tell you, if you seek them out. You are not unfamiliar with the idea that there will be seekers?

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 22 October 2015 10:14 (eight years ago) link

Like, in quidditch?

Frederik B, Thursday, 22 October 2015 10:20 (eight years ago) link

In fairness, that is also an answer to the question.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 22 October 2015 10:31 (eight years ago) link

I try to pay attention, because everyone else is paying attention, I read this enormous thread, for instance, but I'm beginning to realize how little I care. Mainly because people use character names already, and I have no idea who they're talking about, and even how they know?

Well, it's simple:

Hillary
Bernie Sanders = Democratic nominees

Trump
Jeb!
Carson
Rubio
others = GOP

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 October 2015 10:48 (eight years ago) link

Seems like there be more sex scenes in star wars, especially greedo sex scenes

1999 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 22 October 2015 10:55 (eight years ago) link

actually ROTJ Special Edition new song and dance is what ruined it for me.

yes! Ewok song re-cast as a Peruvian pan flute tune was a big let down. My son wanted to re-watch this, but I dread it because these changes are so horrible. Why can't we have the old school tunes?

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Thursday, 22 October 2015 12:22 (eight years ago) link

I try to pay attention, because everyone else is paying attention, I read this enormous thread, for instance, but I'm beginning to realize how little I care. Mainly because people use character names already, and I have no idea who they're talking about, and even how they know?

― Frederik B, Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:13 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This has been a thing since at least ROTJ and possibly even Empire. I'm sure I knew who half the dudes in Jabba's throneroom were before I ever saw them onscreen. It is a little ridiculous this time around, though, I agree (see the mention upthread about Halloween costumes for characters we don't know anything about yet...what if you're unknowingly dressing your kid up like a space racist???).

Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 October 2015 12:30 (eight years ago) link

I distinctly remember, maybe a year or so before Phantom Menace was released, reading speculation online and being intrigued by mentions of this new character named Jar Jar Binks.

Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 October 2015 12:36 (eight years ago) link

"Binks" was never a good sign.

how's life, Thursday, 22 October 2015 12:49 (eight years ago) link

Star Wars names have always been stupid though. Like wtf is a Chewbacca.

Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 October 2015 12:51 (eight years ago) link

Without ridiculous names for characters that have less than a minute's screen time, we would have no Lobot.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 22 October 2015 12:55 (eight years ago) link

Binks is a real last name though, that's the thing. It's not stupid at all. It's totally normal.

how's life, Thursday, 22 October 2015 12:59 (eight years ago) link

Lando Rabinowicz

Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 October 2015 13:04 (eight years ago) link

I can't remember the name of the site now, but there was one prior to Episode I that was a repository for leaks and which, via set reports and photo leaks, had essentially the entire story published and illustrated prior to the movie opening.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 October 2015 13:16 (eight years ago) link

Luke Skywalkerdopolous

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 October 2015 13:18 (eight years ago) link

The entire story was published in hardback weeks before the movie came out!

http://www.liswiki.com/library/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/star-wars-i-phantom-menace.jpg

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 22 October 2015 13:22 (eight years ago) link

"This novelization, unlike those from the original trilogy, contains much that is not in the movie. It includes three entire chapters of material created by Terry Brooks and unique to the novel. The first two chapters of the book concern Anakin's next-to-last podrace and its aftermath, while a later chapter describes an encounter between Anakin and a wounded Tusken Raider in the desert."

It also contains the fact that George Lucas is terrible the Rodian that Anakin plays with as a kid is actually Greedo.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 22 October 2015 14:03 (eight years ago) link

Binks is a real last name though, that's the thing. It's not stupid at all. It's totally normal.

― how's life, Thursday, October 22, 2015 8:59 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

See, e.g., this exchange I had on Twitter:

http://i.imgur.com/wLdvNtj.jpg

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 October 2015 14:06 (eight years ago) link

The first two chapters of the book concern Anakin's next-to-last podrace and its aftermath

yeah, if there was one thing the phantom menace needed it was more fucking podracing, good job terry brooks

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 22 October 2015 14:17 (eight years ago) link

I always liked the fact that the South Park guys saw Jar Jar in the first Ep I trailer, said "oh people are going to _hate_ that thing," and put him(or a soldier mouthing his line) into the South Park movie which got released months before EP I.

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Thursday, 22 October 2015 14:25 (eight years ago) link

hate to nitpick, but EP 1 came out first

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Thursday, 22 October 2015 14:30 (eight years ago) link

kind of insane we learned absolutely nothing about the sith in the prequel trilogy.

we learned about darth plagueis and his obsession with manipulating midiclorians in order to save the ones he loved from dying

diamonddave85​ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 22 October 2015 14:32 (eight years ago) link

And that always two there are, a master and an apprentice. And that they and only they deal in absolutes.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 October 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link

We learn nothing that doesn't immediately pertain to the plot device at hand.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 October 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link

Did the Sith have a Hogwarts of their own where they schooled the younglings in the ways of the dark side?

I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 October 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link

charter schools subsidized by Republic taxpayers iirc

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 October 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link

Yes! http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_Academy_(Korriban)

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 October 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link

Sign of a life wasted not playing KoTOR.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 22 October 2015 14:43 (eight years ago) link

Midichlorians? In my youngling?

I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 October 2015 14:55 (eight years ago) link

Shit, I thought the South Park movie came out first. 1999 was a blur of university and college radio and hype for me.

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Thursday, 22 October 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link

We learn nothing that doesn't immediately pertain to the plot device at hand.

not to overly defend the prequels cuz they really do suck, but the seed that sidious plants in anakin with the plagueis story ultimately leads him into turning to the dark side

diamonddave85​ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:03 (eight years ago) link

they don't even know how to tell the story they are telling, it's an impressively layered kind of frustrating badness

goole, Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:04 (eight years ago) link

Darth Vader couldn't find anyone who wanted to be his apprentice at Sith Academy so he roamed half the galaxy just to see if Luke would do it

The Once-ler, Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:04 (eight years ago) link

Midichlorians? In my youngling?

― I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Thursday, October 22, 2015 10:55 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hey, you got youngling in my midichlorians!

how's life, Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link

the seed that sidious plants in anakin with the plagueis story ultimately leads him into turning to the dark side

well they could have maybe planted that seed sometime before halfway into the final movie of the trilogy. it "ultimately" leads him to the dark side in the next scene, more or less

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:12 (eight years ago) link

they don't even know how to tell the story they are telling, it's an impressively layered kind of frustrating badness

― goole,

basically a thousand years of Sith history become bad Palpatine pickup lines that wouldn't get him a free vodka soda at a gay bar

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link

Sidious was dying to plant his seed

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link

one of the things that can still make feel good about lucas is that he based chewbacca on his dog (who was of course named indiana).

balls, Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:18 (eight years ago) link

"You are named after THE DOG?!"

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:18 (eight years ago) link

had a lot of good times with that dog

balls, Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:19 (eight years ago) link

the seed that sidious plants in anakin with the plagueis story ultimately leads him into turning to the dark side

well they could have maybe planted that seed sometime before halfway into the final movie of the trilogy. it "ultimately" leads him to the dark side in the next scene, more or less

They did. In the second movie. After Anakin's mother dies and he tells Padme, "Some day, I will be the most powerful Jedi ever. I will even be able to stop people from dying."

People can like or not like whatever, but you can't criticize movies for doing things you don't remember them doing.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link

eventually, maybe w/ the next one, i will name a dog indiana that way when ppl ask me my dog's name i can go into connery voice and respond "we named the dog indiana"

balls, Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link

I mean you can argue the execution and direction were shitty and what have you, but it's not like Lucas made no effort whatsoever to develop the idea. Even back in Phantom Menace the whole thing about Anakin was, "He wants to help people, he gives without thought of reward," etc.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link

lol "someday i will be the most powerful jedi ever. i will even be able to stop sand."

balls, Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link

ok couldn't remember if that was in the 2nd or 3rd movie. what a lame character arc

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:24 (eight years ago) link

God, those Anakin lines still seem so petulant even in writing. I kinda want to rewatch the last two prequels just to imagine that they're movies about Stephen Glass in space.

I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link

i don't doubt that on paper perhaps it is a tragic story but the way he portrayed it, there was no art to it

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link

did they establish his dislike of sand in the first one, like greedo kid is like "annie there's a problem w/ yr pod alternator...yup, as i suspected - sand" and it's like oooh foreshadowing - top that david simon!

balls, Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:27 (eight years ago) link

"I really like dictatorships....... j/k!"

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~kathyb/haydenc/images/anakin_padme_507.jpg

jmm, Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link

xpost Opera house sith dump was in the third movie after all.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:32 (eight years ago) link

I know we're talking about a Star Wars movie, but McDiarmid's best bits are in the opera sequence.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:33 (eight years ago) link

Who even knew he had a voice like that.

I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:45 (eight years ago) link

lol

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link

McDiarmid in the opera scene is probably the most defensible piece of the entire prequel trilogy, and they put all the good lines from it in the trailer, so really you can save yourself nearly seven hours of viewing time if you just watch that.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 22 October 2015 15:52 (eight years ago) link

I kinda want to rewatch the last two prequels just to imagine that they're movies about Stephen Glass in space.

― I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:25 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is such a good idea

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:01 (eight years ago) link

"Master...did I do something wrong? Are you mad at me?"

I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link

I don't remember an opera sequence. What's this?

how's life, Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:10 (eight years ago) link

My main problem w the prequels was we should have seen Anakin's family, his real dad and mom, maybe his birth has comic force circumstances around it, etc. Also he was supposed to be "the best starfighter pilot in the galaxy" but he is more a chaperon and security detail in the prequels. Let's see him as a pilot for the Empire, one who is being sent to crazy space battles against extremist rebels on desolate hellscape planets in the far reaches. Let's see him have twisted force visions that make him question his sanity, and confront his superiors at the front lines. Maybe he slowly becomes bionic from war injuries and has PTSD.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:12 (eight years ago) link

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

a (waterface), Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:15 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLfGh2b_me0

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

They actually have Yoda say:

Yoda: Not if anything to say about it I have!

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:18 (eight years ago) link

XP go get the Genndy Tartakovsy cartoons then! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006Z2LMO
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BCE8Q4

Also 10x as good at actually establishing General Grevious as a bad-ass than the films.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:18 (eight years ago) link

Feel like the Jedis being all nonchalant about the CLONE ARMY drastically slashes away at their integrity. They are supposed to be in tune with all living energy and yet they are totally cool with these clones living only as canon fodder.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:34 (eight years ago) link

lol @ canon fodder

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:37 (eight years ago) link

i wish i could pray hard enough to release everyone from thinking about that kind of shit forever

goole, Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:37 (eight years ago) link

if only you had more midichlorians

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link

The opening credit sequence has leaked

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, you'd think that a movie about militarized clones would touch on the ethics of cloning at least once.

jmm, Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link

Especially as ethics are a clearly defined line that the main character crosses and is the supposed crux of the entire series.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:45 (eight years ago) link

i dont know its either this or politics and those people make even less sense

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:46 (eight years ago) link

man that opening credits sequence has me stoked

a (waterface), Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:53 (eight years ago) link

it's like JJ Abrams cracked the code that made the prequels so shitty

a (waterface), Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:54 (eight years ago) link

Luke Skywalker: No, my father didn't fight in the Clone Wars. He was a navigator on a spice freighter.
Ben Obi-Wan Kenobi: That's what your uncle told you. He didn't hold with your father's ideals; he felt he should've stayed here and not gotten involved.
Luke Skywalker: You fought in the Clone Wars?
Ben Obi-Wan Kenobi: Yes. I was once a Jedi knight, the same as your father.
Luke Skywalker: I wish I'd known him.
Ben Obi-Wan Kenobi: He was the best star pilot in the galaxy, and a cunning warrior. I understand that you've become quite a good pilot yourself.
[sorrowfully]
Ben Obi-Wan Kenobi: And he was a good friend.

this is all you needed, you didn't need those three stupid movies. if you had to make them, yes, show him actually doing something other than being a suitor and then having a couple tantrums. also i think lucas focusing on the rise of the sith as an opponent from within was a disastrous decision, like i agree about wanting to see these epic space battles in distant star systems and the entire time it should have been the same two sides. the empire should have always been there as an enemy, maybe an unknown known or whatever, and there's this amazing war between two equally matched opponents that eventually is a victory for the empire because the emperor converts anakin in a way that isn't this high school play Iago shit.

nomar, Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:56 (eight years ago) link

we all know the prequels (and ROTJ) were shitty, this is the thread for how shitty Star Wars 7 will be

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 October 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link

tears don't really express fear btw fyi

― Sabato Gigante (benbbag), Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:23 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

shout. shout. let it all out.

Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 22 October 2015 17:02 (eight years ago) link

Lando Rabinowicz
― Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch)

i wish i knew why this has me in hysterics

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 October 2015 17:07 (eight years ago) link

it is a thinly veiled "Polish Joke" and you are 80 years old?

Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 22 October 2015 17:19 (eight years ago) link

Oy, you got me.

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 October 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link

Even back in Phantom Menace the whole thing about Anakin was, "He wants to help people, he gives without thought of reward," etc.

― Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Thursday, October 22, 2015 4:22 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

except when he is slaughtering an innocent village of creatures at least

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link

shout. shout. let it all out.

these are the jokes i can do without

polyphonic, Thursday, 22 October 2015 21:46 (eight years ago) link

Anakin in ROTS: Buddy buddy jokes n laughs with obi wan - conflicting emotions but sceptical of Palpatine - conflicted talk with Palpatine - slaughters doe eyed little children with rage to spare.

abcfsk, Thursday, 22 October 2015 21:57 (eight years ago) link

I've been hurt before so I'm keeping my distance

But could someone confirm, racist internet dudes are mad at this movie simply because that one main character is black??

Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 October 2015 00:02 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, that goes back to the first trailer almost a year ago, but I think the stink that was raised this week about the "white genocide" thing was only a dumb joke that the media took seriously.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 23 October 2015 00:05 (eight years ago) link

lol "someday i will be the most powerful jedi ever. i will even be able to stop sand."

― balls, Thursday, October 22, 2015 10:23 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

underappreciated comment

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 23 October 2015 02:33 (eight years ago) link

Anakin screaming "no" when he wakes up in the Vader suit wasn't about the loss of his wife or his mutilated body -- it was his realization that he could have created a sand-proof suit of armor long ago and it never occurred to him

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 23 October 2015 02:35 (eight years ago) link

i prefer the idea of them having like 400 Vader apparatuses at their disposal for these such situations....after Vader dies they're onto the next burnt Empire saviour

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 23 October 2015 02:38 (eight years ago) link

Anakin screaming "no"

this moment btw is the perfect example of something that by rights should have been really intense... just our accumulated knowledge of who anakin was and what he is shortly to become should have made that moment deeply emotional. but lucas just botched it in the execution... the framing, editing, everything (as i recall) was just so limp.

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 23 October 2015 03:44 (eight years ago) link

very awkwardly hilarious

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 23 October 2015 03:58 (eight years ago) link

the worst prequel scene I can remember is anakin and padre romantically running around in a field. maybe in the second film? mumbled to my friend "jesus christ what is this shit, god damn it george lucas"

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 23 October 2015 04:00 (eight years ago) link

Here's the prequels' profoundest moment:

https://instagram.com/p/9KNOC5QDUTkFn_cABUnhihUOw0m6N7syCGq9M0/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 October 2015 04:01 (eight years ago) link

I was about to say that he hasn't been in a long-term relationship since the 80s but I guess he got married in 2013 and they had baby via surrogate. For some reason, having a kid via a surrogate seems really apt.

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 23 October 2015 04:03 (eight years ago) link

all of the "romantic" scenes were utterly atrocious

the thing is, you can see all of lucas's ambitions in those films, there are all kinds of motifs woven through the films (mise-en-scene, dialogue, etc.; e.g. the "sand" motif) -- it would be impressive if it wasn't all so pointless and ineffectual.

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 23 October 2015 04:03 (eight years ago) link

best part of lucas's directing style has to be actors admitting that some lines that fall flat or are delivered in a weird way are because george told them to deliver it that way

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 23 October 2015 04:05 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0Ti9NXc7CM

i was in some high school plays that had more convincing love scenes than this

and look at those thomas kinkade CGI environments

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 23 October 2015 04:07 (eight years ago) link

Made it 50 seconds into that before I couldn't even hate-watch it any more.

schwantz, Friday, 23 October 2015 04:31 (eight years ago) link

I really was expecting one of those romantic scenes to go...

Padme: I love you.
Anakin: Why?
Padme: (speechless, frozen for remainder of film)

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 23 October 2015 05:19 (eight years ago) link

McDiarmid in the opera scene is probably the most defensible piece of the entire prequel trilogy, and they put all the good lines from it in the trailer, so really you can save yourself nearly seven hours of viewing time if you just watch that.

Still not clear why he chooses this gauche, ignorant, petulant, and irritating teen to groom for his second in command. He's easily manipulated and bursting with midichlorians but hardly seems qualified for running the largest most evil empire in the galaxy, also would be a giant pain in the arse to have hanging around all the time.

ledge, Friday, 23 October 2015 08:10 (eight years ago) link

cuz he is easily manipulated?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 October 2015 10:42 (eight years ago) link

he looks cute in purple lipstick?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 October 2015 10:42 (eight years ago) link

He's a powerful Jedi with wonky morals. You probably don't get too many of those.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 23 October 2015 11:00 (eight years ago) link

Obi-Wan is a shit teacher, Palpatine has an alert on rateyourjedimaster.com

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 23 October 2015 11:03 (eight years ago) link

I like how Palpatine goads Anakin into killing Count Dooku, then later in his office is like, "Well, I know you have a problem controlling your temper . . ."

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Friday, 23 October 2015 12:35 (eight years ago) link

I don't know how I never noticed before seeing the gif upthread, but melted Palpatine totally looks like he has a penis for a head.

I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 October 2015 12:47 (eight years ago) link

emperor palpatenis

the illicit unit slid tantalizingly across the waxed tile (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 October 2015 14:09 (eight years ago) link

I feel this

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/return-of-the-jedi-was-great-you-ewok-slandering-fools-1738290933

tbh I've always had a fondness for Jedi. It was the first one I saw in the theater & I was the perfect age to be sold on Ewoks & it has held up to rewatching. yeah it seems more obviously kid friendly watching now but it doesn't upset me. Plus Muir Woods!!! i think ppl / nerds get way more bunched up over Jedi than they need to

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 October 2015 01:02 (eight years ago) link

The best thing about ROTJ is how Luke's suddenly a badass jedi when he shows up at Jabba's

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Saturday, 24 October 2015 01:31 (eight years ago) link

^^^ this. And I still laugh when Threepio gets insulted in some guttural droid language by the eyeball-thing at Jabba's door. Though the belch from
that toad monster right before that prefigures the poop n' fart "jokes" Lucas put in Phantom Menace. Bad Sign #1.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 24 October 2015 01:46 (eight years ago) link

Jabba being all "gtfo bitchass Jedi" to Luke's mindtricks only to be hoist by his own petard and die anyway is classic.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 24 October 2015 01:47 (eight years ago) link

Hope they laid off the poop jokes in this new one.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 24 October 2015 01:47 (eight years ago) link

"I'll catch up with you guys later, gonna go drop off some goods at Tosche Station"

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 24 October 2015 01:58 (eight years ago) link

Gotta go drop off the younglings.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 24 October 2015 02:06 (eight years ago) link

The whole Jabbas palace sequence of ROTJ is one of the best things in the whole trilogy. I'm also in the camp that its good fun and measures up reasonably well to the other two. Also the ewoks give us the great sequence of c3po telling the Star Wars story in ewok

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Saturday, 24 October 2015 02:12 (eight years ago) link

i mean the Ewok bullshit kinda brings proceedings to a grinding halt but the opening 30 mins or so are really fucking exciting.

but I imagine anybody would be let down after Empire - esp when they bring back another Death Star for round 2

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 24 October 2015 02:15 (eight years ago) link

Vader saving Luke and then demasking for his son in his final moments = always makes me misty tho

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 24 October 2015 02:18 (eight years ago) link

Going back to TFA -- I have to admit being a little sad when I saw Chewie with a bandaged arm in the new trailer. Would prefer my fave character remain beyond harm :)

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 24 October 2015 02:21 (eight years ago) link

Also : Star Wars Rebels is knocking it out of the park three episodes in. The third episode of this new season is some of the best edited and directed animated TV I've seen in ages.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 24 October 2015 02:24 (eight years ago) link

but I imagine anybody would be let down after Empire - esp when they bring back another Death Star for round 2

― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, October 24, 2015 3:15 AM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah and it wasn't that impressive, it didn't blow up a planet just a couple starships. Lando and wedge when you really think about it just blew up some scaffolding, considering how it was half finished.

Ackbar took down that super star destroyer hardcore though damn

nomar, Saturday, 24 October 2015 02:32 (eight years ago) link

I love that nixon voiced fish thing

nomar, Saturday, 24 October 2015 02:33 (eight years ago) link

with Nien Nunb as John Dean

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 October 2015 04:15 (eight years ago) link

Jabba being all "gtfo bitchass Jedi" to Luke's mindtricks only to be hoist by his own petard and die anyway is classic.

― Hammer Smashed Bagels

lol yeah. Lucas doesn't even waste time -- Jabba waves Luke aside.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 October 2015 04:16 (eight years ago) link

There are at least three belch jokes/beats in Jedi: the ILM/Henson crew-looking frog thing, Jabba himselft after space frog consumption, and the Sarlacc after Boba Fett goes in.

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/6311609088/hACEA647F/

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Saturday, 24 October 2015 05:02 (eight years ago) link

Oh yeah, and later in the film, this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm1OaKO_fzw

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Saturday, 24 October 2015 05:04 (eight years ago) link

Hahah fuck! I forgot those :)

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 24 October 2015 06:26 (eight years ago) link

I thought the Sarlacc belch was added in a "special edition" later. And Jabba's is at least in character.

si monvmentvm reqvires, pvmpkin spice (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 24 October 2015 06:55 (eight years ago) link

I gotta see that despecialized edition

The Once-ler, Saturday, 24 October 2015 15:02 (eight years ago) link

Jedi was cool w the forest, and yeah Jabba's stuff was cool.

But Darth Vader should've been James Earl Jones, or a crazy half robot half person, not just some pasty little guy in the suit.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 24 October 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link

Liked the Ewoks as a kid though, the Ewok movies got a lot of replay. A large part of what makes them tolerable is not speaking English.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 24 October 2015 17:34 (eight years ago) link

Salacious Crumb > Jar Jar by miles

μpright mammal (mh), Saturday, 24 October 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6J5EqFXErE

μpright mammal (mh), Saturday, 24 October 2015 17:52 (eight years ago) link

What kind of music do you call that?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 24 October 2015 17:55 (eight years ago) link

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jizz

jmm, Saturday, 24 October 2015 17:59 (eight years ago) link

I haven't watched any of these films in about 15 years, but that blue elephant thing from Return of the Jedi is still my favourite character from Star Wars (I'm sure it has a name, but I prefer to think of it as 'that blue elephant thing')

soref, Saturday, 24 October 2015 18:04 (eight years ago) link

YES! Max Rebo Band for life

The Once-ler, Saturday, 24 October 2015 18:05 (eight years ago) link

"the shape of jizz to come"
About 502 results (0.42 seconds)

jmm, Saturday, 24 October 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link

"snuff jizz"
About 1,090 results (0.48 seconds)

si monvmentvm reqvires, pvmpkin spice (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 24 October 2015 18:25 (eight years ago) link

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Palpatones

The Palpatones were a band formed from three former members of the Max Rebo Band, which split shortly after death of Jabba the Hutt, with whom they had been in an exclusive contract. Their name was a portmanteau on Palpatine and the word "tone".

jmm, Saturday, 24 October 2015 18:33 (eight years ago) link

Ah, along the line of the Hitlersonics.

si monvmentvm reqvires, pvmpkin spice (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 24 October 2015 18:39 (eight years ago) link

How Lucas really ruined both musical sequences in ROTJ is beyond criminal.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 24 October 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link

^^^ might be exaggerating but original music million times better than his "redos".

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 24 October 2015 21:12 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiDRgDmXGi4

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 24 October 2015 21:13 (eight years ago) link

It's like holy shit wtf was he thinking? Is he not aware he is destroying the good things he did?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 24 October 2015 21:14 (eight years ago) link

Disney is not against the comedic musical number.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 24 October 2015 21:15 (eight years ago) link

want

https://mightyjabba.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/vintage_rebo_band_box1.jpg

piscesx, Saturday, 24 October 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link

It gets better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrOSuY12Rrs

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 October 2015 22:01 (eight years ago) link

Xp: I had that! Still have the keyboard somewhere.

how's life, Saturday, 24 October 2015 22:16 (eight years ago) link

burp at 1:36

the special edition burp at 5:42

the biggest issue I have is why does the sarlaac need a fucking piranha plant sitting in his mouth?

The Once-ler, Saturday, 24 October 2015 22:28 (eight years ago) link

Just be glad he stopped revising them before it said "FEED ME, BOBA!"

si monvmentvm reqvires, pvmpkin spice (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 24 October 2015 22:34 (eight years ago) link

evidence of my Chewbacca/Leia child theory imo

μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 25 October 2015 01:32 (eight years ago) link

The first Star Wars films I saw were the re-releases in 97. I think overall they are better than the original versions, including the ROTJ songs, from what I've seen on youtube.

scarfs, Sunday, 25 October 2015 04:02 (eight years ago) link

^^^ result of over a decade of ilx challop research

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 25 October 2015 04:16 (eight years ago) link

Is that bit where Jabba/Han reprise the previous scene's Greedo/Han dialogue still in the redone version of Star Wars? Bc that ws The Worst, makes Jar Jar look like brilliance

Underground Rick (albvivertine), Sunday, 25 October 2015 05:07 (eight years ago) link

the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 25 October 2015 05:17 (eight years ago) link

I watched the despecialized version of IV last night, it was p great, looks pristine

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 25 October 2015 09:52 (eight years ago) link

ROTJ had the best space battles

, Sunday, 25 October 2015 13:46 (eight years ago) link

The only alteration I'll defend is the Palpatine-Vader chat in ESB.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaBlw1gNWdg

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 October 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link

Chimp-eyed woman totally creepier. The old dialogue is also more vague, and therefore more interesting.

Millsner, Sunday, 25 October 2015 14:15 (eight years ago) link

More obvious Vader and Palps are bullshitting each other in second version.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 October 2015 14:15 (eight years ago) link

the master/apprentice relationship with the sith is such a web of lies

μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 25 October 2015 15:18 (eight years ago) link

So I downloaded ROTJ blu-ray (15 gb) and the despecialized version (15 gb). I have them running side-by-side.

The color difference is remarkable. The official version has so much magenta where red should be and bluish-white where white should be. Human skin looks like everyone took a bath in hot water.

The Once-ler, Monday, 26 October 2015 22:21 (eight years ago) link

Ultimately it comes down to people's saturation preferences but tv's do that on their own nowadays. You can switch tv display to movie, livid, sports, etc.
That's why vanilla might be the way to go.

The Once-ler, Monday, 26 October 2015 22:24 (eight years ago) link

honestly it all depends on the scene. some scenes look better specialized and some despecialized

The Once-ler, Monday, 26 October 2015 22:31 (eight years ago) link

Okay, this is the 4th post in a row but the despecialized version looks way better than the official blu-ray in most cases.

COOL FIND BROS. Can you tell I'm excited?

The Once-ler, Monday, 26 October 2015 23:00 (eight years ago) link

https://medium.com/@robconery/luke-skywalker-sith-lord-f8a11072f246#.1nv6djy24

I could sorta see this. The type of twist that JJ Abrams could get into...

schwantz, Monday, 26 October 2015 23:09 (eight years ago) link

In that scene, Palpatine played on the sympathies of Anakin to cut Windu’s hands off so he could toss Windu out the window.

In this scene, Luke plays his dad in the exact same way to toss the emperor into the abyss. Ahh symbolism.

Screaming in pain and begging for help while being tortured = "playing" his dad?

jmm, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 01:36 (eight years ago) link

i would be okay with evil luke, especially if hammill does the joker voice

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 02:34 (eight years ago) link

I got the despecialized version last night as well. Watched "Star Wars". Wow - looks amaaaazing.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 02:44 (eight years ago) link

I do like the idea of Luke being a fallen Jedi, but to claim that he ends ROTJ having given in to the dark side is a stretch. It doesn't make sense for the movie to end with a big celebration if Luke has turned to the dark side. A level of irony would have to be operating that never otherwise occurs in Star Wars.

I also don't see that there are any serious problems with the obvious interpretation, that he's succeeded at the last moment in stepping back from temptation. If the temptation continued to haunt him and he eventually succumbed, that would be a nice twist.

jmm, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 03:19 (eight years ago) link

Force Awakens opens with Luke blowing up Endor

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 04:20 (eight years ago) link

*horn fanfare*
*text scrolls*
EPISODE VII: THE FORCE AWAKENS

So Luke blew up the Ewoks and he's a fucking Sith Lord now, can ya fuckin believe it???

zoso def (m bison), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 04:32 (eight years ago) link

also Han Solo is black now

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 04:37 (eight years ago) link

The RedLetterMedia guys put out a commentary track for Jedi and I never noticed Carrie Fisher's cocaine fingernail before:

http://io9.com/5947334/and-now-princess-leias-coke-nail-from-return-of-the-jedi

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 06:44 (eight years ago) link

imo the "I will finish what you started" line from the trailer most likely refers to Vader's day job of killing the rest of the jedi

small chance that the task at hand is "finish turning Luke to the dark side"

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 14:25 (eight years ago) link

I love the idea of Luke being the ultimate baddie of the new trilogy, not sure Disney has the balls for that though.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 14:29 (eight years ago) link

Most Mark Hamill's best-known post-SW roles have been bad guys (The Joker, Ozai, Trickster, etc), so it'd be cool to see him play an evil Luke.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link

mark hamill doesn't look cool enough

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/30/1406737736295_wps_9_US_actor_Mark_Hamill_atte.jpg

Join me, and together we can tour mid-sized theaters as roadies for Hot Tuna.

how's life, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 14:45 (eight years ago) link

excelsior

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link

can't wait for him to deliver the "I can't recall ever having a droid" line right before R2 zaps him and he cracks up laughing

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link

has this been posted? this thread is fritzing my browser so who the heck knows

http://www.avclub.com/article/watch-mark-hamill-basically-pitch-evil-luke-skywal-227192

piscesx, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 14:59 (eight years ago) link

My wild-ass guess is that Luke Skywalker is actually going to be dead in this movie's continuity, and any scenes in which Mark Hamill appears will be flashbacks.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 15:02 (eight years ago) link

I'm gonna say he's dead and has one ghost scene.

jmm, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link

how is all this going to remain secret beyond the first weekend? or even the first day? total avoidance of the internet until showtime is the only way i think.

piscesx, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link

After the final scene, the camera pulls back to reveal that the entire movie has been projected on Luke Skywalker's bare ass.

I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 15:14 (eight years ago) link

"Gooood. I can feel your anus."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link

honestly, a lot of things will be pretty spelled out by mid-december. it looks like they're holding back a bunch of toys and assorted items for the last release of merchandise due to the fact the packaging will spoil plot points.

looks like the ebook version of the novelization is released the same day as the film

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 15:18 (eight years ago) link

i love that jj abrams is credited as 'writer - taking care of business' in that av club interview clip. to think there was once a world where jj abrams was just a humble man, hunched over his keyboard, bashing out a regarding henry here and a forever young there. innocent, carefree days.

the illicit unit slid tantalizingly across the waxed tile (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link

I love the idea of Luke being the ultimate baddie of the new trilogy, not sure Disney has the balls for that though.

same

jason waterfalls (gbx), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 15:35 (eight years ago) link

no, you don't have to revise everything.

Most Mark Hamill's best-known post-SW roles have been bad guys

cartoons huh

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 15:37 (eight years ago) link

yes, everyone was shocked when hamill made the leap from the sober, understated drama of the star wars trilogy to the world of animation

the illicit unit slid tantalizingly across the waxed tile (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link

i've never watched the "special editions" but the few clips i've seen are really appalling. it's incredible that lucas did that to his films.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link

to his film, and two other director's films! though from my reading i get the sense he had a really huge (and heavy-handed, minutia-oriented) involvement in jedi.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link

i do wonder what the DGA thought of that.... i guess lucas is the uncontested "auteur" of the star wars films.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link

Well, Marquand was dead by the time the Special Editions came out, but Lucas took a bullet for Kersh, so he was probably fine with whatever:

To preserve the dramatic opening sequences of his films, Lucas wanted the screen credits to come at the end of the films. While this practice has become more common over the years, this was a highly unusual choice at the time. The Writers and Directors Guilds of America had no problem allowing it on Star Wars, back in 1977, because the writer-director credit (George Lucas) matched the company name, but when Lucas did the same thing for the sequel it became an issue because Lucas had his last name on the start of the film (Lucasfilm), while the director and the writers had theirs on the end. They fined him over $250,000 and attempted to pull Empire out of theaters. The DGA also attacked Kershner; to protect his director, Lucas paid all the fines to the guilds. Due to the controversy, he left the Directors and Writers Guilds, and the Motion Picture Association.[15]

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link

interesting!

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link

directors often make really meddling producers, coppola being probably the most egregious example. but i guess Lucas owns (or rather, owned) the I.P. to star wars which makes it more complicated.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link

it's hard to tell exactly because mainly i'm just going off this issue of cinefex composed of interviews throughout the making of jedi. those are always super super interesting to read. and the interviewees are constantly mentioning "george" and things he wanted to do, or changed his mind about, or had planned but cut later on due to budget reasons. i don't think "richard" is mentioned more than once, if that. of course, it could be that lucas "only" meddled in the effects sequences, which of course is what the people are getting interviewed about.

but there was at least one specific bit that seemed to already directly foresage the lucas of the special editions and phantom menace, let me see if i can find it...

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:15 (eight years ago) link

that reminds me of one of the "making-of" bonus features on one of the DVD sets of the "Deadwood" TV show. one the one hand you have this sad-looking episode director nominally in charge and then you have ShowRunner David Milch throwing his weight around, actually calling shots (and barking instructions to the camera operator)....

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:16 (eight years ago) link

I imagine the successful auteur writer-showrunner is the most powerful person on any set, TV or film. But even then, Milch is a notorious force of nature.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:33 (eight years ago) link

although i do wonder if some of that was for the benefit of the cameras.

being a director on series TV (unless it's premium cable, i suppose) would seem to be a /lot/ less rewarding than directing films.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link

man, some great stuff in that cinefex. got carried away typing, realized how much of it there was, and posted to the 'crimes of george lucas' thread. huzzah.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link

isn't it gen thought that Kershner and Marquand handled the boring stuff GL didnt want to handle, ie the actors?

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:42 (eight years ago) link

although i do wonder if some of that was for the benefit of the cameras.

I doubt it, Michael Mann had to ban him from the set of Luck at one point

Number None, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link

xpost yeah that was definitely my conclusion reading the cinefex stuff. considering lucas's absolute ineptitude with the actor scenes in the prequels, and the godawful scripts, it seems like the one thing that might have rescued those movies to at least competence would have been finding another solid, nuts-and-bolts director to film everything but the puppet and CGI parts. john frankenheimer or somebody. obv lucas's ego was not going to let that happen in 1997.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:48 (eight years ago) link

interestingly, george miller split the direction of "beyond thunderdome" with george ogilvie in precisely that way... ogilvie handled the less logistically challenging scenes and worked closely with the actors; miller dealt with the elaborate effects shots, action sequences, and art direction...

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:49 (eight years ago) link

Star Wars is pulpy with not a lot of non-plot character interaction, but once people starting relating to characters the other directors (esp. Kershner, with the minor slapstick points mentioned above and the little character interactions) really had to do the fleshing-out.

The prequel films were amazingly bad, to the point where Anakin is basically saying "But master, I thought we had to follow orders" with the most wooden sarcasm possible. And that was basically the only joke, reused, for three movies

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link

it was like watching a very unfortunate colony of autistic children who had taught each other emotional expression :(

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:57 (eight years ago) link

yeah i like to say that in the prequels it's the live-action stuff, not the CGI, that falls into the uncanny valley :(

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 21:02 (eight years ago) link

isn't it gen thought that Kershner and Marquand handled the boring stuff GL didnt want to handle, ie the actors?

― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius)

Marquand must have been concentrating on Salacious Crumb's drool then

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link

love that dude

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link

he didn't direct many movies

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 21:12 (eight years ago) link

Jar Jar was a great character who was failed by the story.

latebloomer, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 21:12 (eight years ago) link

I meant I liked Salacious Crumb

he also didn't direct many movies

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 21:13 (eight years ago) link

he fed off other directors' scraps

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51A0Z9VJJHL.jpg

the biopic was great though

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link

http://www.starwars.com/news/salacious-crumb-cakes

LEARN HOW TO MAKE THE MOST FIENDISH SNACK IN THE OUTER RIM!

nomar, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 21:20 (eight years ago) link

interestingly, george miller split the direction of "beyond thunderdome" with george ogilvie in precisely that way... ogilvie handled the less logistically challenging scenes and worked closely with the actors; miller dealt with the elaborate effects shots, action sequences, and art direction...

this was less by initial design than desperation though - Miller had dropped out almost completely after Kennedy's death, and was persuaded back to shoot the fighty and chasey bits

let no-one live rent free in your butt (sic), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 21:35 (eight years ago) link

I'm watching Empire again and it's striking how Han's "game" with Leia is made up entirely of sneering and mockery. Lines that in the script you'd probably read as a combination of teasing and straight come-ons become these seething, aggressive taunts

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 22:19 (eight years ago) link

The original PUA

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 22:22 (eight years ago) link

someone please photoshop a fedora onto han solo

you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 22:23 (eight years ago) link

I don't know, it seems beyond that, he's really PISSED at her constantly

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 22:25 (eight years ago) link

oh ... duh

you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 22:28 (eight years ago) link

loooooooool

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 22:28 (eight years ago) link

Case closed

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 22:32 (eight years ago) link

I'm also noticing how much blue collar FIXIT WORK people our heroes are always doing (I guess Leia's more middle management).. all the shenanigans with getting the Falcon flight-ready, Luke jerry-rigging a power supply for R2 on Dagobah. I read somewhere that directors love heist movies because heists echo what movie sets are like - partners in crime, each with their own speciality, trying to coordinate a million moving parts to realize a vision. I also get the feeling in movies like Empire, and Alien, that our heroes know how to fix stuff, and enjoy tinkering with stuff, because ultimately that's what filmmakers like to do too. And the farther directors get from the actual makin' stuff with their hands, and the bigger the disparity between the shop floor and the decision makers, the less you see heroes of these films who know to use a hydro spanner when they need to.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link

Number None be like "I can arrange that!"

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link

i always thought the blue collar fixit work was a natural extension of lucas' interest in american grafitti-style hot-rod culture - the millennium falcon is han and chewie's bitchin' customised ride

the illicit unit slid tantalizingly across the waxed tile (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 23:38 (eight years ago) link

I think it's also a genre trope. Space Opera heroes are always having to be their own crew chief, because radioing Houston to fix it and/or dying adrift are just not great storytelling.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 23:56 (eight years ago) link

Chewie fixing up 3PO too

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 23:57 (eight years ago) link

I wonder if Star Dads all give their boys the same lecture when they get their learner's permit (for spaceflight, for owning robots, you know. I assume there are massive, galaxy-wide safety and occupational certification standards and enforcement apparatus; perhaps the breakdown of essential DMV services is part of why the place is all still fucked up 30 years after the Emperor's death?). "If you're gonna DRIVE one then you're gonna know how to FIX one! Here, catch! Do you know what that is? That's right, a hydro spanner! Do you know what it's for? No? Watch and learn!"

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 00:08 (eight years ago) link

Harrison Ford was doing actual carpentry work when they had him stand in for Han

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 00:16 (eight years ago) link

shit i'm sayin

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 00:19 (eight years ago) link

i really think we ought to raise the starpiloting age to 18 folks. especially with all the distractions available in those cockpits: holograms, etc.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 00:30 (eight years ago) link

Exactly. When Luke turns off his targeting computer it's clear he's just not done the hours under Instrument Flight Rules - should have been a clear disqualification for an X-Wing combat pilot

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 01:02 (eight years ago) link

I rewatched "Looper" recently and, while I like it overall as a sort of pulpy B-pic with a glossy budget, I noticed that Rian Johnson's visual sense is straight out of TV. It's pretty much establishing shot >> a medium shot >> close ups close ups and more close ups with very little other than meat n' potatoes story elements taking up the frame. No sense of visual elegance. Reminds me stylistically of the latest "Mission:Impossible" film (visually basic) in comparison with what Brad Bird came up with for "Ghost Protocol". The one thing that can be said for Abrams is that he can often create compelling compositions and set pieces - even if much of the time they're nothing more than emulations of old Spielbergian tropes. But I'm fine with these kind of tropes in a SW film. I hope Johnson'll switch up his approach for the next films in this series.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 15:10 (eight years ago) link

R2 also fixes shit on the X-Wing though. I always thought that was a weird conceit, but cool anyway -- that the x-wing has this little plug-and-play hole for a droid. Why wouldn't you just build whatever functionality the droid has into the x-wing?

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 15:15 (eight years ago) link

well R2D2 serves another role, in making luke likable -- the role that might be served, in another film, by a loyal dog. and i can imagine that the very idea of a self-fixing plane is a kind of artificial intelligence that wasn't quite on many people's minds in the 1970s. a kind of human surrogate (droid) as handyman probably seemed more realistic, or at least more relatable.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link

if you are stuck somewhere on a planet the little droid can pop out and repair the underside of your x-wing while chatting w/you

he's twice as interesting as Dak was on Hoth, and that dude lasted about five minutes

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link

One of Lucas' few interesting comments in the commentary tracks is noting that R2 is really the hero of the six movies, always saving the gang at the last minute.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 15:27 (eight years ago) link

I never owned the Kenner R2 figure. My parents got me R5 D4. Cooler design too.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link

bad motivator tho

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 15:30 (eight years ago) link

It only just now occurred to me that there aren't really any computers (other than displays or communication consoles) in Star Wars and if there were they would accomplish many of the tasks that droids accomplish

I'm now imagining an alternate universe where Star Wars only first gets made in 2015 and R2D2 and C3PO are basically just smart phones

silverfish, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link

I don't think any of the little side stories outside of the movies have addressed when c3p0's memory was wiped between Eps 1-3 and 4-6, but I would like to think R2 kept his, making him the only character with real continuity throughout the whole saga

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 15:33 (eight years ago) link

bad motivator tho

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, October 28, 2015 10:30 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

R5-D4 was a proto-slacker.

Hellmann's All-Beef Bolognnaise (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link

I believe on another thread somewhere we discussed that R2-D2 is the Owen Meany of Star Wars.

Also this guy http://cheeseburgerbrown.com/Darth_Vader/R2-D2_Fulcrum_of_the_Force.html

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

R2 also fixes shit on the X-Wing though. I always thought that was a weird conceit, but cool anyway -- that the x-wing has this little plug-and-play hole for a droid. Why wouldn't you just build whatever functionality the droid has into the x-wing?

Because updating your playlists on the spaceship itself is a pain. Easier just to have a droid that can rove back and forth from your desktop to the hangar bay, etc.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 16:18 (eight years ago) link

there are totally computers in star wars! they're just unseen mainframes, as in star trek and basically all scifi of the period. the garbage compactor scene in star wars is resolved by R2 plugging in to basically a random terminal to poll the computer as to whether our heroes have been found, and from there, shutting down every trash compactor on the detention level.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 16:47 (eight years ago) link

there's a pretty significant scene involving a targeting computer iirc

the illicit unit slid tantalizingly across the waxed tile (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link

One of the first lines of dialogue is "The Death Star plans are not in the main computer!"

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 16:54 (eight years ago) link

ok, I guess it's just been way too long since I've seen these movies.

I guess my main point is that there is lots of AI in Star Wars in the form of droids, but for some reason the computers themselves are not intelligent, which is a bit weird when you think about it.

silverfish, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link

Obi-Wan: How long before you can make the jump to light speed?

Han Solo: It'll take a few moments to get the coordinates from the navi-computer.
[the ship begins to rock violently as lasers hit it]

Luke: Are you kidding? At the rate they're gaining...?

Han Solo: Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy! Without precise calculations we could fly right through a star, or bounce too close to a supernova and that'd end your trip real quick, wouldn't it.

nomar, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link

I'm surprised no one's mentioned the scene in Jedi when the Gammorrean Guard was looking up baseball scores on his Macbook.

Hellmann's All-Beef Bolognnaise (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:04 (eight years ago) link

They're all purpose-built machines though - all hardware, no real idea of software - the astromech slot is there so that when you want to upgrade your X-Wing, you get a smarter droid for the slot.

Hah, just went to check and Wikipedia sez: "The history of the personal computer as mass-market consumer electronic devices effectively began in 1977"

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link

what proportion of under-30 fans of SW and Indiana Jones (not hardcore geeks, just y'know regular people) know that in '77 and '81, the selling line for both was "pastiches of old movie serials"?

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:10 (eight years ago) link

Just the ones that dress like hip grandparents

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:13 (eight years ago) link

I'm not sure who would know what movie serials are, and why.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:20 (eight years ago) link

Those were better than

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100323121721/starwars/images/2/22/Cereal_Box_C3P0s.jpg

how's life, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link

there is a great ilx post about C-3P0's lodged in my brain, no idea where/when it was though

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link

ETs cerial looks like a bowl of tiny turds.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link

et's basically cocoa puffs, c3po's basically alpha-bits iirc. mr t's smoked both of them.

balls, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:34 (eight years ago) link

ET cereal presaged Reese's Puffs and is therefore the best.

Hellmann's All-Beef Bolognnaise (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:38 (eight years ago) link

And, yes, it was meant to look like you were eating a bowlful of ET's tiny turds.

Hellmann's All-Beef Bolognnaise (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link

Speaking of, I'm glad Lucas eventually started addressing this, but when did the SW gang ever take a shit? The logistics wrt like Chewbacca and Darth Vader are mindbending.

Hellmann's All-Beef Bolognnaise (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link

mr t's smoked both of them.

geez I hope he was okay afterwards

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:42 (eight years ago) link

I'm glad Old Lunch is finally bringing this thread on-topic

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link

Star Wars shit talk thread moving in an interesting direction.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:45 (eight years ago) link

So Mr. ETs were a combo option?

jmm, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:46 (eight years ago) link

feel like the Endor moon trip probably settled a lot of questions about rebels in the woods

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link

Think they are going to eventually do a 'ironic' mas special reboot?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link

they should remaster and rerelease the original xmas special just to fuck with lucas

the illicit unit slid tantalizingly across the waxed tile (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 22:41 (eight years ago) link

Despecialized!

schwantz, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 22:46 (eight years ago) link

Speaking of, I'm glad Lucas eventually started addressing this, but when did the SW gang ever take a shit? The logistics wrt like Chewbacca and Darth Vader are mindbending.

― Hellmann's All-Beef Bolognnaise (Old Lunch), Wednesday, October 28, 2015 5:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

figuring with Darth's organs all fucked up they rerouted all the sewage to the back of his head

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 29 October 2015 01:56 (eight years ago) link

also how high ranking was Vader as a manager? could he hire and fire or did he merely 'make recommendations'

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 29 October 2015 01:58 (eight years ago) link

what proportion of under-30 fans of SW and Indiana Jones (not hardcore geeks, just y'know regular people) know that in '77 and '81, the selling line for both was "pastiches of old movie serials"?

I think many fans of all ages know this factoid, but only as that - there's barely any frame of reference for "old movie serials" though! Not like those things are getting re-issued as criterion sets

El Tomboto, Thursday, 29 October 2015 02:04 (eight years ago) link

It's a straight shot from Vader's meditation chamber to the trash compactor

Xposts

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Thursday, 29 October 2015 02:06 (eight years ago) link

Also the main thing about computers in Star Wars is that almost nothing is networked! As mentioned, everything is either sort of a purpose-built mainframe or what we'd call a PLC / SCADA system, every node is airgapped and the only way to interface with things is to physically plug a thing into another thing. The prequels break this model occasionally, maybe because they're happening "before the dark times" but still, when all the battle droids turn out to be connected to one giant satellite brain via wireless, it rings false.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 29 October 2015 02:09 (eight years ago) link

Probably some good excuses in there like Dune's prohibition on thinking computers, where once, some clever humanoids DID invent fly-by-wire technology and develop advanced drones that could communicate via an open, intergalactic "web" of some sort, and then it all ended in terrible devastation and forever after anybody who tried to get two droids to talk to each other without audibly beeping was immediately Sarlacc'd

El Tomboto, Thursday, 29 October 2015 02:16 (eight years ago) link

vader basically alec Baldwin in glengarry glen ross afaict. Ed harris = that sneering admiral he choked in SW, spacey = tarkin, mitch and murray = the emperor

nomar, Thursday, 29 October 2015 02:22 (eight years ago) link

Note how R2-D2 is able to shut down all the trash compactors but the tractor beam and the weapons systems are completely off-limits. You have to basically be standing in the beam path of the superlaser to operate it, and well you all know about the tractor beam nonsense.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 29 October 2015 02:23 (eight years ago) link

"luke, you've turned off your targeting computer!"
"huh, how did you know that?"
http://i.imgur.com/taoM0yp.png

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 29 October 2015 02:25 (eight years ago) link

Actually it was because R2 tweeted it

El Tomboto, Thursday, 29 October 2015 02:27 (eight years ago) link

via audible beeps, into his radio

(is there a little feed into the helmet earpiece that lets pilots hear their astromech's beeping? I assume this is how it works)

El Tomboto, Thursday, 29 October 2015 02:28 (eight years ago) link

Artoo-Retwoot

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 29 October 2015 02:31 (eight years ago) link

Kind of rude that Luke refuses to talk to R2 in his native astromech bleep bloop language

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Thursday, 29 October 2015 02:44 (eight years ago) link

R2 usually just tells old Henny YOungman jokes

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 29 October 2015 02:50 (eight years ago) link

I wanna know how those Threepio cornflakes taste.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 October 2015 02:53 (eight years ago) link

solder and cinnamon

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 29 October 2015 02:54 (eight years ago) link

there's a suggestion that computers and robots gossip with each other as well - "R2! how did you know the hyperdrive had been disabled??" "tweet twiddle beep" "the city's COMPUTER told you???" "twooooot"

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 29 October 2015 09:31 (eight years ago) link

Just realised the lame battle droids and destroyer droids might've come off a bit better if all their dialogue to each other had been subtitled bleeps and buzzes rather than that awful high-pitched Dr. Nerdlinger accent.

nashwan, Thursday, 29 October 2015 10:06 (eight years ago) link

Out of grim interest I just looked for a video of the droids and came across the battle at the end of TPM, my god the CGI looks so basic it reminds me of something on an N64.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 29 October 2015 10:29 (eight years ago) link

well i know what Tombot is getting for Christmas

http://www.dvd-covers.org/d/82005-3/3123Flash_Gordon_Conquers_the_Universe_vol_1.jpg

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 October 2015 11:56 (eight years ago) link

flash gordon shamelessly copping a feel there

the illicit unit slid tantalizingly across the waxed tile (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 29 October 2015 12:48 (eight years ago) link

That Flash Gordon set is in my Amazon cart as we speak. I've heard good things.

Trimming The Hegyes: The Life & Times Of A Sweathog's Barber (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 October 2015 12:53 (eight years ago) link

Is kylo ren Luke's son?

calstars, Thursday, 29 October 2015 13:03 (eight years ago) link

Just realised the lame battle droids and destroyer droids might've come off a bit better if all their dialogue to each other had been subtitled bleeps and buzzes rather than that awful high-pitched Dr. Nerdlinger accent.

It would be kind of cool if one of the standalone star wars movies would feature an all-droid cast and all the dialogue was subtitled bleep-bloops

silverfish, Thursday, 29 October 2015 13:12 (eight years ago) link

it would be even cooler if they didn't subtitle it - just a bunch of trundling trashcans burbling incomprehensibly to each other in the desert for two hours

the illicit unit slid tantalizingly across the waxed tile (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 29 October 2015 13:32 (eight years ago) link

I always liked how the movies let us know what R2 and Chewie are saying without resorting to subtitles. I dunno if that's at all original to Star Wars.

jmm, Thursday, 29 October 2015 13:38 (eight years ago) link

xpost A la Chewie's family in the first half hour of the Christmas special.

Trimming The Hegyes: The Life & Times Of A Sweathog's Barber (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 October 2015 13:39 (eight years ago) link

(Which I started playing for my girlfriend last year because she didn't believe that such a thing even existed. I don't think she was any more convinced of its existence after actually seeing it.)

Trimming The Hegyes: The Life & Times Of A Sweathog's Barber (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 October 2015 13:40 (eight years ago) link

the selling line for both was "pastiches of old movie serials"

The Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon movie serials had a nostalgic revival in the 60s, as did the newspaper strips ... when young George wasn't cruising around American Graffiti style, maybe he was making notes in the margins of this:

https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/575547.jpg

Brad C., Thursday, 29 October 2015 13:44 (eight years ago) link

I always liked how the movies let us know what R2 and Chewie are saying without resorting to subtitles. I dunno if that's at all original to Star Wars.

I dunno, it's pretty much the same thing they as when you only hear one side of a telephone conversation in a movie or tv show, basically just repeating what the other person just said.

silverfish, Thursday, 29 October 2015 14:18 (eight years ago) link

http://famousdude.com/images/harry-corbett-06.jpg

soref, Thursday, 29 October 2015 14:30 (eight years ago) link

i think the FG serials were probably run endlessly on TV in the '50s when GL was a yute

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 October 2015 14:31 (eight years ago) link

(or maybe even smalltown matinees in the neigborhood bijou)

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 October 2015 14:31 (eight years ago) link

"What, Lassie? Old man Jenkins is trapped at Cedar Bluff??"

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 29 October 2015 15:18 (eight years ago) link

xp iirc after his car accident, he was laid up watching a lot of old TV and that's exactly where he saw them.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Thursday, 29 October 2015 15:32 (eight years ago) link

http://www.amazon.com/Anniversary-McQuarrie-Hasbro-Collector-Collectible/dp/B003GQQDQ0/ref=pd_bxgy_21_img_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=0NT0A5FGJA6PXYZ1YHG3

mcquarrie designs turned into action figures

akm, Thursday, 29 October 2015 22:35 (eight years ago) link

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/711qUPcLRWL._SX522_.jpg

akm, Thursday, 29 October 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link

I have the McQuarrie Luke, Vader, R2-D2 and C-3PO figures at home. They're really well done.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Thursday, 29 October 2015 22:37 (eight years ago) link

do you get a lot of quality playtime out of them

Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 October 2015 22:45 (eight years ago) link

Luke didn't have to hear R2, a translation pops up on his console.

When he's not in his ship, he can only understand the droid thru tone.

"If you're saying coming here was a bad idea, I'm beginning to agree with you."

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Friday, 30 October 2015 01:01 (eight years ago) link

He understood those bleeps and bloops, he was just gaslighting R2 like a dick

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Friday, 30 October 2015 01:04 (eight years ago) link

Dicklighting

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 30 October 2015 01:08 (eight years ago) link

One thing about the Despecialized versions is that you can see far more errors, especially after watching the blooper reels. Fr'stance, the hooded PA crouched behind R2 at the Jawa sale and who had to give the droid a push, since they apparently didn't account for wheels on desert

The cut scenes are klunky as fuuuuuck, but they set up a lot of shit about Luke well, so his immediate jump to hyper-excitement when C3P0 mentions the Rebellion is far more of a piece when you've seen the interaction with Biggs mentioning his plans to go AWOL from the Academy to join the other side.

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Friday, 30 October 2015 01:09 (eight years ago) link

"Tibanna Gas-mining" is the preferred in-universe term, I believe

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Friday, 30 October 2015 01:11 (eight years ago) link

Biggs Dicklighter

El Tomboto, Friday, 30 October 2015 01:12 (eight years ago) link

Gaslightsaber

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Friday, 30 October 2015 01:18 (eight years ago) link

Luke actually doesn't understand language, he just forms vowel and consonant shapes that get mistaken for monologue

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 30 October 2015 01:20 (eight years ago) link

lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 30 October 2015 02:12 (eight years ago) link

All of these people dressing up as these new Star Wars characters for Halloween will be really embarrassed if this movie is all about racists

Spencer Chow, Saturday, 31 October 2015 16:59 (eight years ago) link

Or if the characters turn out to be really into bestiality

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 31 October 2015 17:01 (eight years ago) link

The hero of the prequels was a mass murderer of children, didn't really cause much shame at halloween

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Saturday, 31 October 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link

Citation required that anyone ever went out as Anakin for Halloween.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 31 October 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link

You do realize that Darth Vader and Anakin are the same person

El Tomboto, Saturday, 31 October 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link

But also people dress as the Grim Reaper during Halloween, so no idea where this "shame for killing fictional children!" idea comes from

El Tomboto, Saturday, 31 October 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link

Wasn't Darth Vader the hero of the original movies?

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Saturday, 31 October 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link

All of these people dressing up as these new Star Wars characters for Halloween will be really embarrassed if this movie is all about racists
― Spencer Chow, Saturday, October 31, 2015 4:59 PM

also known as "the ol' harper lee"

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 31 October 2015 21:43 (eight years ago) link

Hulk Hogan

The Once-ler, Saturday, 31 October 2015 22:24 (eight years ago) link

Wasn't Darth Vader the hero of the original movies?

― too young for seapunk (Moodles), Saturday, October 31, 2015 8:39 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Alderaan was sheltering a massive kiddie porn ring iirc

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 31 October 2015 22:38 (eight years ago) link

Blowing up Princess Leia's planet of perverts for the good of the galaxy

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Saturday, 31 October 2015 22:43 (eight years ago) link

You couldn't see it but a single tear rolled down Vader's cheek inside his mask as he whispered "for the children..."

Capitalism Is A Death Cult And Science Is A Whore (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 31 October 2015 22:59 (eight years ago) link

while the Cantina band quietly strummed "Luka"

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 31 October 2015 23:02 (eight years ago) link

Can I just

(see the mention upthread about Halloween costumes for characters we don't know anything about yet...what if you're unknowingly dressing your kid up like a space racist???).

― Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:30 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Trimming The Hegyes: The Life & Times Of A Sweathog's Barber (Old Lunch), Saturday, 31 October 2015 23:09 (eight years ago) link

http://darthjarjar.com/

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 November 2015 01:34 (eight years ago) link

also:
http://s.mlkshk-cdn.com/r/16DK7

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 November 2015 01:37 (eight years ago) link

hahahahah

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 2 November 2015 01:40 (eight years ago) link

sith lord binks

calstars, Monday, 2 November 2015 01:57 (eight years ago) link

I'm your mama
I'm your daddy
I'm that wookiee in the alley

Capitalism Is A Death Cult And Science Is A Whore (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 2 November 2015 05:35 (eight years ago) link

two boys (6 and 4) watched star wars for the first time last night. they get super excited when vader steps on ben's mysteriously empty robes and they turn to me, eyes shining: "he's faking, daddy! obi wan's not dead!" and well, it is a pretty mysterious thing, the empty robes, isn't it? it's never explained, never spelled out.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 November 2015 13:31 (eight years ago) link

I have just spent far too long going through that Reddit on JarJar Binks. There's a very great deal of circumstantial evidence to back it up, including some animation shots that make little sense if it isn't true.

suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Monday, 2 November 2015 14:11 (eight years ago) link

my take on that is trying to discern the motives of something that makes no goddamn sense lends itself well to complex conspiracy theory
BUT IF IT'S TRUE i take it all back

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 November 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link

Friend told me there's some new comic or series that tries to explain all the weird shifts between the first movie and Empire, like how Vader went from underling flying his own plane to evil leader, or how he couldn't even sense he had a daughter, etc .

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 November 2015 14:43 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, the new(er) Marvel series, which by all reports are great

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Monday, 2 November 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link

Vader ends up using a black market weapons specialist to get some shady side work done and she has a pair of killer droids, coincidentally a protocol droid/astromech pair, who were decommissioned because they love murdering more than anything else

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 2 November 2015 16:00 (eight years ago) link

it is interesting watching the first one how Peter Cushing calls the shots and tells Vader what to do and Leia even mocks Vader for it to his face

fell in love with Leia all over again obv

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 November 2015 16:50 (eight years ago) link

i love the jar jar theory. it all rhymes! he's evil yoda.

slam dunk, Monday, 2 November 2015 17:45 (eight years ago) link

Jar Jar's the key to all of this.

jmm, Monday, 2 November 2015 17:49 (eight years ago) link

how heartbreaking would it be to feel like you had to walk away from such an awesome plot twist. no wonder george cashed in his chips after it was over.

slam dunk, Monday, 2 November 2015 17:53 (eight years ago) link

Consider: We hate the way Jar Jar influences major plot points for the same reason we hate his physicality- it messes with our sense of realism. Two experienced Jedi on a serious mission would never actually bring someone that stupid along with them. No character that idiotic would ever really be made a general. They certainly wouldn't be made a senator. How could anyone like Jar Jar really convince the entire galaxy to abandon democracy? That's ridiculous.

These things are just the political version of his physical "luck." Inadvertent, seemingly comical bumbling that just so happens to result in astoundingly positive results. But what if it isn't inadvertant, and what if Jar Jar's meteoric rise and inexplicable influence isn't the result of dumb happenstance, but the result of extensive and careful use of force mind powers?

I love this argument. The other characters' tolerance of Jar Jar is so inexplicable that it could only be Sith mind control!

jmm, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link

Maybe Gungans are naturally selected for luckiness like that girl in Ringworld.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link

one of the recent comics implied that Palpatine had orders that went into effect if he were to die

one of the first tasks was the razing of the planet Naboo

COINCIDENCE?

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:33 (eight years ago) link

The Sheevening, as I believe it was called.

Trimming The Hegyes: The Life & Times Of A Sweathog's Barber (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link

There is a lot of room for speculation about what the hell the Emperor was up to by the Return of the Jedi era. Vader was pretty much done with his killing of all jedi, with the exception of that Skywalker pet project, and the Imperial military was just building a second Death Star? He seemed like a dude who would have more than one iron in the fire, so what else was he out doing before he checked on Vader? Presumably not just reading diplomatic updates.

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link

Fantasy Deathstar leagues

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 02:19 (eight years ago) link

There is a lot of room for speculation about what the hell the Emperor was up to by the Return of the Jedi era. Vader was pretty much done with his killing of all jedi, with the exception of that Skywalker pet project, and the Imperial military was just building a second Death Star? He seemed like a dude who would have more than one iron in the fire, so what else was he out doing before he checked on Vader? Presumably not just reading diplomatic updates.

according to Wikis he was writing textbooks

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 02:27 (eight years ago) link

I just discovered that there were three year gaps between the prequels - in my mind they were all produced together and released yearly.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 02:35 (eight years ago) link

He seemed like a dude who would have more than one iron in the fire, so what else was he out doing before he checked on Vader? Presumably not just reading diplomatic updates.

He's doing a whole bunch of nothing between the prequels and A New Hope; and presumably more of the same in between, albeit with extra tactical concerns after Yavin. Gradually losing his mind, to the extent that he was eventually blown up by his own apprentice after a pathetic failed attempt to turn a relative child, full of hubris, blah blah blah. Classic Nero villainy. His answer to the disaster in A New Hope is to order the acceleration of Death Star #2 (presumably it was already in the works, I mean why only build one) like that solves your real problem. The strategic naval trap he sets up sucks, he still doesn't have any better kung fu that he did when he nearly got killed by Mace Windu, and he's completely unable to prevent his own death via Force 101 maneuvers that are clearly part of the repertoire of every other Jedi in the series.

Guy jerked off for three decades and some change. His uselessness is even more of an argument for Jar Jar Supreme.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 04:24 (eight years ago) link

between the prequels and A New Hope = between the prequels and ROTJ

man what was I thinking!

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 04:25 (eight years ago) link

if the book about him and his master (I READ IT, I ADMIT IT) has any truth to it, he was probably doing really boring-ass political manipulation while hoarding jedi and sith artifacts

the recent comics include Lando stealing a ship that ends up being Palpatine's private Sith stash cruiser, and a post-ROTJ one has Luke raiding an Imperial research facility that is studying two tree fragments, apparently all that's left of the tree that was in the middle of the Jedi temple

consolidating and holding on to power sounds boring as fuck when most resistance is crushed

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link

God, I had no idea so much discussion centered around whether Palpatine threw the fight with Mace Windu.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link

So in the Sunday NY Times there was a bunch of stuff about this movie/franchise/oh the significance of it all for Gen X and millennials, and apparently there's a villains' ship in TFA called THE FINALIZER. Sounds like a badass kitchen cleaner.

also, Kylo Ren belongs to the Knights of Ren

http://images1.nick.com/nicktoons-assets/shows/images/ren-stimpy/characters/character_ren.jpg?height=363&width=332&quality=0.75

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link

so this thing's out in a little over a month! came round fast.

piscesx, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:35 (eight years ago) link

Half a month over a month, yeah.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 22:14 (eight years ago) link

space racist???

spacist

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 03:25 (eight years ago) link

Asian trailer hotness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdAUiyeJMFQ

nashwan, Friday, 6 November 2015 13:48 (eight years ago) link

wow, I like how crazy and out of control the lightsabers look, like they are crackling with flame and electricity

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Friday, 6 November 2015 13:51 (eight years ago) link

Haha, was just coming to post that. That shot of the three TIE fighters backlit by the sun is, by itself, better than the entire prequel trilogy.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Friday, 6 November 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link

this could probably be a great film if they limited it to lightsabers and space ships flying around, and cut out any characters or dialogue

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Friday, 6 November 2015 13:58 (eight years ago) link

i am getting a little psyched

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 6 November 2015 14:27 (eight years ago) link

Yeah each preview makes it look a little cooler....

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 6 November 2015 14:34 (eight years ago) link

TIE fighters at sunset got me interested too. Good grief...

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 6 November 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link

We're suckers.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 6 November 2015 15:16 (eight years ago) link

I wish to hell I could stop clicking on these things.

how's life, Friday, 6 November 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link

why, they're cool! everybody relax, this is gonna be cool! and suck a little too probably. whatever!!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 6 November 2015 15:33 (eight years ago) link

That shot of the three TIE fighters backlit by the sun is, by itself, better than the entire prequel trilogy.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 November 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link

why, they're cool! everybody relax, this is gonna be cool! and suck a little too probably. whatever!!

― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, November 6, 2015 10:33 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

because I'd like to be surprised but I have no self-control.

how's life, Friday, 6 November 2015 15:45 (eight years ago) link

For the impatient among us we could probably convince that terminally ill dude who got a screening to spoil the movie for us.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link

If BB-8 isn't Force-levitated at some point I riot.

nashwan, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:26 (eight years ago) link

That tie fighter shot is straight out of another Lucas-related project with Harrison Ford:

http://s10.postimg.org/3le14pll5/images_q_tbn_ANd9_Gc_Q9_Bgk9qo_Huxa_HVmij9_NSUCQ_c_S1kl.jpg

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:38 (eight years ago) link

If BB-8 isn't Force-levitated at some point I riot

Gotta get him into an Xwing _some_how

Still, twenny bucks says he gets levitated during Daisy Ridley's Jedi training in EP VIII.

It's like poetry, y'know; it rhymes.

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link

bb-8 looks so slow running from the explosions PICK THE LITTLE DOOD UP

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link

That is a great shot. TIE fighters seldom look actually threatening.

jmm, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link

boy you guys are really easily excited by obvious Apocalypse Now refs eh

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link

well it would be cool if in these movies luke skywalker was crazy, bald, weighed 350 pounds, and quoted TS Eliot

tylerw, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:52 (eight years ago) link

a pile of ... little youngling arms

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:53 (eight years ago) link

the womp rats... the womp rats...

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:53 (eight years ago) link

I love the smell of Death Stars in the morning.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:55 (eight years ago) link

never get out of the x-wing!

tylerw, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:55 (eight years ago) link

boy you guys are really easily excited by obvious Apocalypse Now refs eh

boy you are really easily excited by trolling star wars fans eh

please don't shampoo your eyes (stevie), Friday, 6 November 2015 17:06 (eight years ago) link

lol like why are you guys geeking out in a star wars thread ffs

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 6 November 2015 17:08 (eight years ago) link

lol tyler

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link

I've been trying to figure out what bothers me about Daisy Ridley with her hair up and it's that she looks like an 11 year old boy

El Tomboto, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:15 (eight years ago) link

Target audience, tbf.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:27 (eight years ago) link

Sorry, next time I will write, "That shot of the TIE fighters backlit by the sun, which is clearly lifted from Apocalypse Now, a fact which is definitely very relevant to the content of this sentence, is better than the entire prequel trilogy." Value added at no extra cost to you.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Friday, 6 November 2015 17:31 (eight years ago) link

I think the hair-up thing both connects with Leia(hair buns) and also sorta/maybe functional for the desert environment.

Both her and Luke are first seen in white wrappings with goggles stomping round in the sand(cut footage in Luke's case, along with the Gilligan hat).

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Friday, 6 November 2015 18:14 (eight years ago) link

I enjoy this RLM bit here as they just half-cluelessly speculate based on trailer footage, and bring in enough knowledge of how the original trilogy worked, how JJ Abrams tends to do things, and what early 21st-C Hollywood producers tend to work. They treat the proceedings with the seriousness it deserves, naturally:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oifhpT0HZ7Q

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Friday, 6 November 2015 18:22 (eight years ago) link

Very cool.

From the looks of it I bet Luke dies in this one. That's why Leia is so sad.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 7 November 2015 02:13 (eight years ago) link

she's not sad, she just has Space IBS

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 7 November 2015 02:18 (eight years ago) link

your jokes are bad

μpright mammal (mh), Saturday, 7 November 2015 05:50 (eight years ago) link

You're ugly

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 7 November 2015 06:02 (eight years ago) link

nothing a few weeks in a bacta tank can't fix

μpright mammal (mh), Saturday, 7 November 2015 14:13 (eight years ago) link

eeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 November 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link

Japanese trailer wAS awesome! Childhood redeemed! Everything redeemed!

calstars, Saturday, 7 November 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link

Stormtroopers flamethrowing people was a little O_o but I guess that's what happened to Owen and Beru...

schwantz, Saturday, 7 November 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link

xp hope this movie is all flashbacks of anakin in mos eisley cantina

the grimes of claire boucher ('90s on) (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 7 November 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link

Meanwhile, to tide us over:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tND2re_D1A

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Sunday, 8 November 2015 02:32 (eight years ago) link

new TV spot

https://twitter.com/twitter/status/663370431877918720

Number None, Sunday, 8 November 2015 15:18 (eight years ago) link

i bought tix to opening night the day they went on sale. three theatres sold out within minutes. I suspect if you are going to see any other movie the weekend of 12/18 you might have a private screen for it

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 8 November 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU-s_HAEwsg

The Falcon tearing out of the forest is cool as shit.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 8 November 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link

yeah

Number None, Sunday, 8 November 2015 15:32 (eight years ago) link

That's the one that's actually pushed me over into "this might actually be great" (to the extent that the originals were great #noshakey).

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 8 November 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link

YouTube put an ad before that trailer!

schwantz, Sunday, 8 November 2015 18:18 (eight years ago) link

boy you guys are really easily excited by obvious Apocalypse Now refs eh

― Οὖτις, Friday, November 6, 2015 4:44 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i would deeply love it if you got the fuck out of this thread forever

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 November 2015 00:08 (eight years ago) link

lol

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 November 2015 00:27 (eight years ago) link

http://i4.ytimg.com/vi/XmOU8rPLieU/maxresdefault.jpg" class="noborder">

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 9 November 2015 00:32 (eight years ago) link

your images are too htmly

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 9 November 2015 01:05 (eight years ago) link

Oh noes how embarrassing

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 9 November 2015 01:15 (eight years ago) link

only Οὖτις should be allowed to post on this thread

thwomp (thomp), Monday, 9 November 2015 01:21 (eight years ago) link

I was thinking about the points some have made, including in the Red Letter Media thing kingfish embedded above, about how two generations in a row have apparently just totally dismissed or forgotten the Jedi's influence and the significance of the Force, etc. I think it's easily plausible to lose that kind of familiarity and context in the span of a generation; how many millenials would read Red Storm Rising and realize all of that shit was completely in the realm of possibility around the time they were being born? Who among us remembers why we needed tactical nukes to address the possibility of armor columns coming through the Fulda Gap?

El Tomboto, Monday, 9 November 2015 02:06 (eight years ago) link

mb there are explanations but something does seem a bit implausible about the ~20 years between prequels and original trilogy being long enough for the force to become little more than a myth (wouldn't han solo have already been a teen at the time the jedi were wiped out?), but the story of one jedi appearing from somewhere and doing some stuff (or so we hear) seems something much easier for most to have forgotten a few decades on.

Merdeyeux, Monday, 9 November 2015 02:46 (eight years ago) link

the force was sort of scoffed at even by some imperial dudes in the original trilogy who were around vader 24/7/365, in the office with him for morning meetings and rolling their eyes at him like he was this weird mascot. there were plenty of military dudes who underestimated or condescended to him to their own detriment/humiliation/death, like one could plausibly suggest that those who witnessed total jedi strength firsthand were few and far between (and many were dead) and tbh the deaths of almost all the jedi in the prequels sort of undercuts their rep as the most skilled warrior class.

nomar, Monday, 9 November 2015 03:26 (eight years ago) link

one of the slash fic novels published touches on the long and uneasy relationship between Tarkin and Vader, fueled by mutual respect of the other's talents and jealousy of the other's relationship w/the Emperor.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 November 2015 03:29 (eight years ago) link

Also: Imperial military bureaucracy didn't know quite what to make of weird metal man dude. Is he a Sith? Does he work for the Emperor? His place in the command structure isn't really set until The Empire Strikes Back when the death of Tarkin (to whom he obv reported) and knack for killing his officers makes him second in command really.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 November 2015 03:33 (eight years ago) link

palpatine uses surviving a jedi assasination attempt as a way of completely seizing power though. really think the jedis in the prequels should've been scarce, w/ obi-wan this young, worldlier one that was arrogant enough to ignore the asceticism of his order cuz he wanted to have fun fighting in the clone wars and anakin was his best friend who was a hotshot pilot that was curious about ben's mysterious religion and so ben decided to teach him and it turned out anakin was a natural only he had none of the foundation of whatever they teach in some distant monastery and so was probably doomed to be lost to the dark side even before he ran into some machiavellian sith lord. if you ignore the prequels though it becomes very easy for ppl, esp in an entire galaxy that was previously dominated by an evil totalitarian govt and now finds itself in some kind of cold war, to know little and believe less about some space wizards. luke skywalker and han solo may only be known as some dudes that got some medals for blowing up a death star. it makes total sense that nobody may know that darth rejected the dark side and betrayed the emperor and is princess leia's father.

balls, Monday, 9 November 2015 03:40 (eight years ago) link

well, only Yoda and Ben knew; the only other one who did was one of the million voices crying out and suddenly silenced.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 November 2015 03:50 (eight years ago) link

wookieepedia confirms - bail organa was on alderaan when it was obliterated

balls, Monday, 9 November 2015 03:53 (eight years ago) link

man there's a lot of reasons i'm happy the internet didn't exist when i was a kid but wookieepedia is one of the few non-pornographic ones

balls, Monday, 9 November 2015 03:54 (eight years ago) link

the whole seduction of the Anakin to the Dark Side was way too easy. they could have done something with the "cocksure top-ranked Jedi lacks mental discipline" angle rather than turn it into a generic teen angst tale.

also the "You were supposed to be the chosen one" bit from Obi-Wan wins the blue ribbon for over-explanatory dialogue.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 9 November 2015 03:57 (eight years ago) link

xxpost

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 9 November 2015 03:57 (eight years ago) link

also, was Darth always intended as a Sith title as opposed to just being the character's first name? In Ep IV, Obi-Wan says "he is called Darth Vader" which implies at the time it was just seen as his first name and then retconned into being a Sith moniker.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 9 November 2015 04:01 (eight years ago) link

And he calls him "Darth" during their duel.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 November 2015 04:08 (eight years ago) link

"Dahhth" rather

El Tomboto, Monday, 9 November 2015 05:45 (eight years ago) link

the force was sort of scoffed at even by some imperial dudes in the original trilogy

iirc luke thought it was a bunch of hooey at first

0 / 0 (lukas), Monday, 9 November 2015 05:47 (eight years ago) link

I think Han's attitude towards Jedism is completely appropriate for a person who might have been just starting formal school during the clone wars. "What, those assholes who sucked and then died while defending some utopian model of governance I can barely remember? I'll have one trusty blaster, please."

El Tomboto, Monday, 9 November 2015 06:07 (eight years ago) link

I'm wondering if even when Jedis were still a thing here and there that you didn't get plenty of your officer corp not really able or wanting to comprehend these mystic robed dudes with psionic powers and weird melee weapons. It's striking a memory of Jon Pertwee's Doctor being constantly fed up with all the U.N.I.T. brass he'd have to deal with and who were only able to think in very direct, 1st-order, linear ways. "How do you like that, Jo? An example of 'the military mind!'"

So you have that table of officers in ANH sitting around and perhaps only fully grasping what Vader is/can do when he chokes out a dude for mod sass.

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Monday, 9 November 2015 07:23 (eight years ago) link

This whole "Jedis were forgotten between the original and prequel trilogy" thing becomes even more complicated if you accept Star Wars Rebels as canon (which if officially is), because in that series all sorts of random people know what the Jedis are/were, and don't consider them a myth, even though Rebels take place only 5 years before ANH.

Really, the easiest way to reconcile all this is to treat ANH itself as not fully canonical. Maybe it's a story told by a not-fully-reliable narrator (remember, it starts with the words "a long time ago in a galaxy far far away", so clearly the storyteller himself didn't experience these events, more likely he's repeating second or third hand accounts of things that happened centuries or even millenia ago)? This would explain all the things in ANH which feel out of place compared to the other movies and shows: the Jedis weren't totally forgotten in 20 years, Tarkin did know that the Force is a real thing and not just a religious concept, Obi-Wan would've known "Darth" is a title and not the name of a person, etc.

Then, from TESB onwards, the narrator changes into someone else, someone who had better knowledge of the events (or better history books), so there's less inconsisctencies in the story.

Tuomas, Monday, 9 November 2015 09:43 (eight years ago) link

one of the slash fic novels published touches on the long and uneasy relationship between Tarkin and Vader, fueled by mutual respect of the other's talents and jealousy of the other's relationship w/the Emperor.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, November 8, 2015 9:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haven't read this one!

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 9 November 2015 14:59 (eight years ago) link

lol @ having to retroactively make the original damn film non-canonical

I dunno, I think it's fine. The Galaxy is a big place, just because Jedi have been active in the last decade in some parts of it does not mean they wouldn't be regarded as a semi-myth elsewhere.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 9 November 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link

Although Tuomas' weirdly literal metafictional musings are always a blast to read.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 9 November 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link

I got the feeling the Jedis were (no surprise, a la Kurosawa) basically like these wandering samurai, whose reputation preceded them but who were so far flung, dwindling in numbers and rarely if ever seen in action. And in so far as Darth is weirdly subservient in the first film, it's like he's been trained into Zen-like docility, not unlike Yoda - so powerful he doesn't need to use his powers. Which of course makes no sense, because whenever the Jedi roll over they die (like Darth and Yoda and Obiwan). If there's a huge hole in this narrative full of huge holes, it remains that "I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine" nonsense. Sure, in the sense that you can't kill a ghost ninja a second time, but other than that all the dead Jedi seem to do is sit on logs and mope. They seem like they'd be a lot more useful alive.

The second biggest hole in these films is why everyone is not carrying lightsabers. Sure, deflecting blaster rays seems pretty tough, but you'd think they'd still come in handy, like a fancy Swiss Army knife or laser Leatherman.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 November 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link

just think that... obviously the whole force/jedis thing wasn't really worked out until after the first The Star War film, and that this is probably fine? It's, like, a series of kids films about a war in space.

the whole jedi ghost thing is something that apparently took long periods of study and meditation during life, although anakin just magically shows up as a jedi ghost, so who the hell knows

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 9 November 2015 15:45 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eul1NlwytF4

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 November 2015 15:47 (eight years ago) link

"Who's your tailor? I *love that outfit."

please don't shampoo your eyes (stevie), Monday, 9 November 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link

I suspect Anakin's Jedi ghost was just a deliberate rule-break to tug at the heartstrings and drive home his redemption.

Or maybe Jedis are like Protestants in that deathbed changes of heart give them their old powers back.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 9 November 2015 17:16 (eight years ago) link

New interview with Abrams at Wired: http://www.wired.com/2015/11/star-wars-force-awakens-jj-abrams-interview

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Monday, 9 November 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link

"That’s not to say I’m not proud of my work, but the fact is I remember starting to shoot Super 8 and Star Trek Into Darkness and feeling like I hadn’t really solved some fundamental story problems."

Hah

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 9 November 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link

hmm you don't say

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 November 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link

such as i don't have an original thought in my head

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 November 2015 17:31 (eight years ago) link

one of the slash fic novels published touches on the long and uneasy relationship between Tarkin and Vader, fueled by mutual respect of the other's talents and jealousy of the other's relationship w/the Emperor.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, November 8, 2015 9:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haven't read this one!

― μpright mammal (mh

It's a novel published a few years ago that takes place before and during the destruction of the first Death Star. I read bits at an airport in Tennessee.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 November 2015 17:34 (eight years ago) link

Wasn't Lucas' original vision/dream casting for Obi-Wan going to be Mifune? Which would make sense with Jedi being the robed, sword-wielding Zen ronin-type warrior.

Mifune's daughter apparently mentioned in a Japanese quiz show a coupla years ago that he was offered the role of Darth, too, but I haven't seen that corroborated anywhere else.

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Monday, 9 November 2015 17:38 (eight years ago) link

just his voice? in English?

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 November 2015 17:41 (eight years ago) link

such as i don't have an original thought in my head

Hell, at this point, I'd be happy with well-done blockbuster filmmaking.

Let Rian Johnson step up the originality level; let's just get a decent modern filmic foothold again, as it were

On a vaguely unrelated note, I just remembered that they gave the Warcraft movie to Duncan Jones, which seems a weird choice until I remember that modern genre franchise filmmaking grabs relatively newer/younger directors that the producers feel will be a bit more readily compliant and without as much a signature stamp. Maybe they took this cue from how the Broccoli family ran the Bond films.

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Monday, 9 November 2015 17:53 (eight years ago) link

the Warcraft trailer looks abysmal. Odd choice for Jones

Number None, Monday, 9 November 2015 17:55 (eight years ago) link

No, apparently he'd be in the Darth suit w/ no face mask.

Which on reflection doesn't make any sense for the character, but this is what the actor's daughter born in 1982 said, so load of salt & all that

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Monday, 9 November 2015 17:55 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, the Warcraft trailer looked like their top priority was to realize the Blizzard visual aesthetic to OCD levels.

Tho I was amused that we see multiple shots of dudes riding gryphons et al, since it's an easy way to do visual grandeur, but also echoes how mounts are/were such a treasured thing in the MMO.

I have a secret hope that they'd find a way to have Robert Clotworthy in a cameo doing his full Jim Raynor-accent, but even Hollywood fan service has its limits.

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Monday, 9 November 2015 18:04 (eight years ago) link

The second biggest hole in these films is why everyone is not carrying lightsabers. Sure, deflecting blaster rays seems pretty tough, but you'd think they'd still come in handy, like a fancy Swiss Army knife or laser Leatherman.

Every lightsaber is hand-made, usually by its wielder, so there's no mass production mechanism and presumably some secret knowledge about how to build them that is fairly hard to come by. Hypothetically this is why Kylo Ren's saber blade looks so messed up.

El Tomboto, Monday, 9 November 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link

yeah there's a whole bit in the Shadows of the Empire novel (don't start) about Luke building his new lightsaber based on a book he finds at Kenobi's old house. Those focusing jewels are tricky

Number None, Monday, 9 November 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link

And both a cutscene and Vader's dialogue in Jedi are about Luke constructing his new weapon

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Monday, 9 November 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link

apparently Sidious let Vader use his lightsaber as a model when Obi-Wan took Vader's.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 November 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link

But why can only Jedis build them, apparently? Chewbacca was pretty handy, and surely a droid could do it.

Is Han the only non-Jedi we ever see using a lightsaber?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 November 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link

it involves semi-mystical meditating about finding the right crystal or some malarkey

I am sure anyone could make one, but iirc learning how to swordfight is a little more intense than learning how to fire a gun

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 9 November 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, but one would come in handy when you want to open a carcass or, I dunno, a stuck ship door.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 November 2015 20:15 (eight years ago) link

yeah there's a whole bit in the Shadows of the Empire novel (don't start) about Luke building his new lightsaber based on a book he finds at Kenobi's old house. Those focusing jewels are tricky

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/c/ce/Darkempire1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070921214400

I had this Dark Empire graphic novel that included a bunch of stuff about the force and the lightsaber crystal thing. Really don't think the movie will top that graphic novel tbh.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 9 November 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link

I can't believe the Uptown 1 still has tickets for sale on opening night. IIRC, Blade Runner: The Final Cut wasn't exactly packed when they showed it there either, so maybe the stereotype(s) about DC nerd culture are accurate.

El Tomboto, Monday, 9 November 2015 21:11 (eight years ago) link

Presumably wielding a lightsabre swiftly results in a Jedi visit - the only non-Jedi we see with one is General Grievious (who has gathered all his from killing Jedi).

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 9 November 2015 22:57 (eight years ago) link

this line of enquiry makes as much sense as 'in 2015, why doesn't everyone have a sword'

thwomp (thomp), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 01:00 (eight years ago) link

Yeah but in 2015 open carry culture remains confined to a few states in the US and war zones, in the SW universe, open carry is an intergalactic way of life. So in that context a lightsaber is more like I don't know, Crocodile Dundee's knife?

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 01:07 (eight years ago) link

not a lot of people walking around those war zones with arming swords though are there

can't speak to the US, mb there it's a thing

thwomp (thomp), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 01:17 (eight years ago) link

lots of people walking around in war zones with machetes and other large knife varietals

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 01:37 (eight years ago) link

sure thats p much the same thing

thwomp (thomp), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 01:40 (eight years ago) link

feels like we're just talking past each other

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 02:00 (eight years ago) link

if the galactic empire put a large bounty on information about any possible australians that dundee mofo is gonna get a stormtrooper squadron dropped on his ass

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 02:17 (eight years ago) link

Just sayin', forget using it as a weapon or defense, a lightsaber would be totally handy for chopping down trees, opening doors, cutting holes in ice for fishing, etc.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 03:32 (eight years ago) link

have you perhaps confused the incredible Star Wars Universe for a fuckin Paul Bunyan story

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 04:33 (eight years ago) link

Paul Bunyan is actually kind of Star Warsy as names go

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 14:42 (eight years ago) link

"one of the slash fic novels published"

can I just say I think this is a misuse of "slash fic"? Isn't "slash fic" fan fiction that usually involves two characters of the same sex doing the deed? Like, Tarkin and Anakin taking a shower and then...

akm, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link

i'm listening, go on

the illicit unit slid tantalizingly across the waxed tile (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link

Governor Tarkin: Are they away?
Darth Vader: They've just made the jump into hyperspace.
Governor Tarkin: Finally. Now where were we?

how's life, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link

rolled r's

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 14:53 (eight years ago) link

guys I started reading that book yesterday, and although I wasn't able to finish it off in one night due to it actually having a little heft, there are a couple of scenes with Vader and Tarkin co-piloting or flying in tandem and I'm pretty sure they're going to do something in Vader's meditation chamber pretty soon

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link

J.J. Abrams, grim reaper

Daniel Fleetwood, the terminally ill man whose dying wish to see Star Wars: The Force Awakens was granted last week, has died at the age of 32.

His wife, Ashley Fleetwood, shared the news early Tuesday morning. “Daniel put up an amazing fight to the very end. He is now one with God and with the force. He passed in his sleep and in peace,” she wrote on Facebook, sharing a final photo they took together.

Fleetwood, a Star Wars fan since childhood, had been diagnosed with spindle cell sarcoma, a connective tissue cancer, and did not expect to live until The Force Awakens’ Dec. 18 release date.

A campaign to allow him to see the film early went viral earlier this month, using the hashtag #ForceForDaniel, and caught the attention of Star Wars cast members like Mark Hamill and John Boyega.

Last Thursday, Ashley Fleetwood announced on Facebook that Disney allowed Daniel to see an unedited version of the film. She also revealed that The Force Awakens director J.J. Abrams called the couple personally to reveal that Daniel’s wish would be granted.

Abrams granted a similar wish for a dying fan in 2013, arranging for a Star Trek fan with terminal cancer to see Star Trek Into Darkness before it was released. That man died just days after seeing the film.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link

Can only imagine his face when preparing to start the film on that one: "Are you sure you're sure? I rented Galaxy Quest yesterday, we could watch that?"

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

I am dying, please show me the film

I mean, only in the way we are all dying, but... the film

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 16:55 (eight years ago) link

lol

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 16:55 (eight years ago) link

mh, the diagnosis is in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDaFMZfIsV4

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link

i hope this doesn't mean Fanboys II will be made.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 17:04 (eight years ago) link

best part of Tarkin book so far is the acknowledgment that the Clone Wars cartoon is in canon, so with Tarkin having worked side by side with Anakin and being close to Palpatine, he is pretty sure he knows who Vader is and their.. special relationship

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link

was there some Star Wars novel from the 90s about how Obi-Wan was a slaughterer of Ewoks or something, called My jedi My Savior or something?

I recall someone talking about it on a Star wars themed BBS once and wanted to read it but can't tell if it was real or if htey were pulling my leg

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link

cos y'know fuck the Ewoks

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link

Pretty sure i heard that too

a (waterface), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link

How did you fail to notice the Ewok slippers he wears throughout the first movie?

Trimming The Hegyes: The Life & Times Of A Sweathog's Barber (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link

Ewoks are fucked anyway - something that big blows up in orbit = nuclear winter.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link

If the fallout doesn't get them, the Gorax surely will.

Trimming The Hegyes: The Life & Times Of A Sweathog's Barber (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 17:36 (eight years ago) link

The "Endor Holocaust" scenario is examined in some detail here

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/holocaust.html

Y'know, if you're not doing anything else

Number None, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link

Hypothesis: "Jakku" in the new movies is actually Endor.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link

Ha, good shout.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 18:58 (eight years ago) link

There's an opening day showing at 9 AM near our offices. Going to see if I can make a team building exercise out of this.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 21:48 (eight years ago) link

given the levels of months-in-advance hype i'm kind of imaginging that what jj abrams et al have been working on for years is just this long-running, elaborate marketing plan and that no movie has been made and nothing will ever be released. which would be sort of beautiful, in a way... just this endless fan anticipation and speculation ricocheting around the internet forever and ever....

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 21:50 (eight years ago) link

It's been under-acknowledged how directly this film so far wants to set things in three v familiar SW environments (desert, snowy, forest) as a means of re-establishing a connection. Nice but also maybe too deferential (even if they're not actually Tatooine, Hoth and Yavin IV in this case).

Presumably there won't be much of any new environment but they'll introduce some later in the trilogy? The prequels may have shown too many different locations/ideas in the end. Whether or not they eventually show anything of Coruscant in particular is also interesting.

nashwan, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 22:31 (eight years ago) link

It's been under-acknowledged how directly this film so far wants to set things in three v familiar SW environments (desert, snowy, forest) as a means of re-establishing a connection. Nice but also maybe too deferential (even if they're not actually Tatooine, Hoth and Yavin IV in this case).

that's a good point. there's a more familiar (and more tactile, perhaps) iconography that signifies a re-setting of the clock, almost.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 22:32 (eight years ago) link

It's been under-acknowledged how directly this film so far wants to set things in three v familiar SW environments (desert, snowy, forest)

that's right, i have yet to hear anyone make this observation

thwomp (thomp), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 00:21 (eight years ago) link

space, you forgot... space

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 00:22 (eight years ago) link

something i've yet to see speculation on: what if one or even two of these new characters are related to leia or luke?

balls, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 00:23 (eight years ago) link

and how come nobody's wondered where luke is yet?

balls, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 00:24 (eight years ago) link

Is the Finn Solo thing dead yet, or are people still entertaining it like it's not marvel comics level batshit?

Not really sure what would make more sense between Calrissian and Windu.

tsrobodo, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 00:32 (eight years ago) link

unless Windu's ghost has functioning reproductive organs I'd say it's unlikely

(something about midichlorians)

Number None, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 00:34 (eight years ago) link

one of the characters has already been spoiled on Amazon by a product launch if you want to google for spoilers.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 00:38 (eight years ago) link

Wouldn't be the first time a jedi lost hand, fell from a great height then lived.

tsrobodo, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 00:38 (eight years ago) link

Unless his death is cannon elsewhere idk

tsrobodo, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 00:39 (eight years ago) link

one of the characters has already been spoiled on Amazon by a product launch if you want to google for spoilers.

― Kiarostami bag (milo z)

there are reasons to regard that spoiler w/ skepticism

balls, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 00:44 (eight years ago) link

What no one ever mentions is the faction that was neither Jedi not Sith that pushed for true balance in the force, no specialization, all aspects in every being.

The great master Ren taught this. Vader was their unknown martyr, having walked both paths, although he knew his real teacher by a different name.... Jar Jar

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 01:03 (eight years ago) link

If the only black main character in the new film is related to the only black character in the other films I am going to leave this shit behind

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 01:05 (eight years ago) link

i've seen TONS of discussion on if the girl is leia's daughter or han's kid or whatever
and plenty about WHERE IS LUKE including in this thread! i like the "he's the new emperor" theory, maybe using dark force powers makes you all wizened and shit and yoda used to be a wookie but he worked the darkside out of his system right after he got all frank oz with it? like, okay, the force is weed but the dark side is HEROIN

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 01:43 (eight years ago) link

If Rey's not a Skywalker I'll eat my Fett

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 01:59 (eight years ago) link

Rey is Yoda's kid

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 02:15 (eight years ago) link

Well then. Imagining how that came about. Thanks.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 02:30 (eight years ago) link

Anybody see the nonsense about BB-8 identifying as a female? Completely shot down by citing comments from the producers that referred to it as "he" but I admit to seeing some logic in the theory. By "logic" I mean shorter and curvier than other droids.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 02:34 (eight years ago) link

i keep seeing ppl being like "Oh Luke is totally evil now, no question"

and to them I say:

fuuuuuuck you
and
based on WHAT
and
fuuuuuuck you

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 02:36 (eight years ago) link

He's in the damn trailer with R2, and R2 would have bailed out if he was evil.

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 02:56 (eight years ago) link

mark hamill is inside the melted vader mask. actually, it's not a mask -- that's just what mark hamill looks like in 2015

thwomp (thomp), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 02:57 (eight years ago) link

R2 going evil could set the stage for his battle with this new droid. BB-8 takes him out, but not before he apologizes in a series of books and beeps as the light dims on his panels. R2's sacrifice returns Luke to the light

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 02:58 (eight years ago) link

thomp with the truth bomb

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 02:59 (eight years ago) link

Man nobody's gonna ruin this movie faster than nerds with fanfic aspirations

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 03:02 (eight years ago) link

it's the same idiots who thought kylo ren was luke in the first trailer telling the vader mask he's going to finish what he started

ohhhh so luke is space hamlet now jfc

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 03:03 (eight years ago) link

Ren is actually Sammy Hagar

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 03:40 (eight years ago) link

I'm not super deep into the SW mythos (seen all the films, like the original 3, hate the prequels), but Luke going bad doesn't seem like a crazy left turn or anything. He's had 30 years to slowly get there, and probably didn't just wake up one morning thinking "dark side, yeaaaaaaah!"

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 03:42 (eight years ago) link

yeah but would be kinda like the Go Set a Watchman conundrum all over again. He has this redemptive, triumphant moment the last time we seem him on screen only to see him take an incongruous jump to the dark side in the 30 years since?

kind of a jarring character turn to happen off-screen without context.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 03:43 (eight years ago) link

i'll be happier if there isn't some goddamn huge plot twist in this one cos I enjoy the internet and not looking forward to it breaking on 12/19

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 03:44 (eight years ago) link

A lot of Revenge is about Luke's journey towards the dark side!

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 03:52 (eight years ago) link

but he averts it, the whole "triumph of will" thing with the fireworks at the end!

who knows, maybe his daddy issues sent him back

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 04:00 (eight years ago) link

if you don't think there isn't going to be a massive TWIST to keep people freaking out and waiting for the next installment

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 04:01 (eight years ago) link

Uh the obvious plot advancement here is Luke's realization that mastery of the Force is basically a terrible weapon in anybody's hands (ok, hand) - "The Force Awakens" spells peril for the universe, not salvation. Welcome to the post-Cold War Star Wars everybody!

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 04:01 (eight years ago) link

if you don't think there isn't going to be a massive TWIST to keep people freaking out and waiting for the next installment

― a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, November 11, 2015 4:01 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the twist isn't even needed, really. all they need to do is leave one easter egg in the film and fans' minds will begin wandering. look how much chatter the endless spinning top needlessly generated in Inception

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 04:07 (eight years ago) link

Welcome to the post-Cold War Star Wars everybody!

Star Wars finally gets its The Quest for Peace entry

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 04:08 (eight years ago) link

that top TOTALLY twitched at the end

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 04:10 (eight years ago) link

just hoping JJ Abrams doesn't insert some bullshit time travel subplot into this one

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 04:11 (eight years ago) link

i can't tell if ppl are pretending not to have read spoilers or informed speculation when they do their predictions here. in any case looks like luke is obi-wan now sorta. i think he's gone hermit for the reasons tombot suggests. he's got the beard and he dresses like ben and it looks like he's living in some rock hut thing they got in ireland. i'm not sure we'll see him much, in this one at least. i was thinking we might not see him until the end but there's that shot of him petting r2 and it looks like that might be in the aftermath of the first order coming in and burning that desert village. abrams said this one is basically self contained (like a new hope was really) but idk. that dude is a liar. i could imagine it ends w/ riley accepting her destiny and luke deciding to reengage w/ the world, the old all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. casablanca.

balls, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 04:14 (eight years ago) link

Oh I read the top nerd aggregators on a pretty regular basis, my predictions are WELL INFORMED
and I mean we have kingfish on this thread, you think he's fooling around?

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 04:16 (eight years ago) link

considering hamill's most notable roles of the past twenty years it would be something if instead of having him turn into obi-wan you had him turn into yoda. cackling, maybe insane, and then when you get past that a grumpy old man who gut instinct is 'it's pointless to try'.

balls, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 04:17 (eight years ago) link

you kids, you don't know what it's like to have to go all the way to Tosche Station to get power converters, now the damn things get delivered same-day by probe droids

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 04:18 (eight years ago) link

idk how much we can spoil or speculate! like nobody reliable has seen anything that really indicates kylo ren's parents or that han solo dies but man i've seen enough that i have a strong feeling han is kylo ren's dad and kylo ren is gonna kill him. i have less to go on w/ this than ppl buying into 'finn calrissian' have admittedly. the red letter dude's totally sold me that nu-hoth is the nu-death star. crazy prediction i'm going to make that has no basis from anything: nu-death star belongs to the rebels.

balls, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 04:22 (eight years ago) link

The twist is that at the end Han finds an origami unicorn on the dashboard of the Falcon.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 04:24 (eight years ago) link

i wish people did this kind of speculation when there was, say, a new frederick wiseman film
"they are TOTALLY gonna show a christening in this one"

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 04:24 (eight years ago) link

I would love to see the Werner Herzog take on Lucasian universe/franchise-building

Kind of like how I will go to my grave wondering what it would be like if Wesley Willis joined the post-Onanie Bomb Boredoms

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 04:30 (eight years ago) link

Oh wait the answer to the first idea is the WORLD WE LIVE IN NOW
I'm slow

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 04:31 (eight years ago) link

Herzog film needs Siamese Hutt Twins

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 04:50 (eight years ago) link

Notorious smuggler, Fitt Zcarreedo

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 05:34 (eight years ago) link

And what haunts me, is that in all the faces of all the wampas that Probe 11-38 ever detected, I discover no kinship, no understanding, no mercy. I see only the overwhelming indifference of Hoth. To me, there is no such thing as a secret world of the wampas. And this blank stare speaks only of a half-bored interest in food. But for Probe 11-38, this wampa was a signal, a reason for being.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 05:37 (eight years ago) link

Boort Floss, Probe Wrangler:

My opinion, I think 11-38 thought these wampas were big, scary looking, harmless creatures that it could go up and scan and beep at, and they would bond as children of the universe or some-odd. I think it lost sight of what was really going on.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 05:44 (eight years ago) link

Little Dameron Needs to Fly

weatheringdaleson, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 06:33 (eight years ago) link

Even Ewoks Started Small

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 07:45 (eight years ago) link

i wish people did this kind of speculation when there was, say, a new frederick wiseman film
"they are TOTALLY gonna show a christening in this one"

― a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol. which american institution will he tackle next?

bait shop

DMV

motivational seminar

pest control

organic farm

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 08:42 (eight years ago) link

If the only black main character in the new film is related to the only black character in the other films I am going to leave this shit behind

― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:05 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"What am I, her royal highness's chopped liver?"

http://usercontent2.hubimg.com/6742229_f260.jpg

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 13:03 (eight years ago) link

If Rey's not a Skywalker I'll eat my Fett

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Based on the fact that they're letting Daisy Ridley use her natural speaking voice and not having her adopt an American accent (unlike Boyega), my current speculation based on everything so far released is:

- She's Luke's daughter
- She's never met her father
- Her mother is someone we've never met and won't meet in this movie
- Luke will not show up in this movie until the final reel

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 13:05 (eight years ago) link

We're never told Yoda is male, and he's got the same voice as Miss Piggy, who we know (per the above) had a thing for Luke, so I posit that Rey is the child of Luke and Yoda and that is why he wears a mask.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 14:29 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, would be Yodo if a male.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link

YODO

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 15:10 (eight years ago) link

#YODO

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 15:10 (eight years ago) link

will John Williams work in the Imperial March even tho there is no Empire, Y or N

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 15:14 (eight years ago) link

xp just as kylo ren's ringtone

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 15:45 (eight years ago) link

Some new photos at EW: http://www.ew.com/gallery/star-wars-force-awakens-exclusive-photos

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link

and a nice Ford interview

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/11/harrison-ford-is-han-solo

Number None, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link

So RLM looks to be right, Han and Chewie are a couple of pedestrian hobos at this point? ref interview comment about how Han's still no good with money, and "we're home" line from that one teaser back when, implying they've not been spending much time on the Falcon.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 20:30 (eight years ago) link

it's actually the moment after they dock with Home One, Ackbar's ship

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link

If multiple missions playing Xwing/Tie Fighter are any indication, Home One was blown away long ago by an errant pilot who got bored on a mission and decided to see how many hits it would take to destroy certain critical hard points on an Alliance capital ship.

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 21:49 (eight years ago) link

EW talks to Lupita Nyongo about her character, which apparently appears on the movie poster:

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/12/star-wars-force-awakens-lupita-nyongo-maz-kanata

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Thursday, 12 November 2015 17:34 (eight years ago) link

a thousand years old, finally a character who knows things

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 12 November 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link

Star Wars got the Pai Mei it needed

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 12 November 2015 17:59 (eight years ago) link

I dig how Andy Serkis is getting a double paycheck as both onscreen actor and mocap advisor

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Thursday, 12 November 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link

He should just wear a mocap suit 24/7 and spend his life walking funny and contorting himself, just to build a licenseable archive. When they get around to making that movie about a CGI creature that sleeps all the time, he'll be printing money.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 November 2015 20:49 (eight years ago) link

Pah. Manga wanjee kohkpah Peecha wahnjee kohkpa tahng nahngee toochantkee lasagna.

Capitalism Is A Death Cult And Science Is A Whore (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 12 November 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link

Per that great Red Letter Media prediction episode, what exactly does the Empire do with its power besides build Death Stars? They're kind of a one-trick pony, aren't they? Conquering worlds to get resources to build Death Stars to conquer worlds to get resources to build Death Stars to ... It's like a Spacemen 3 album title.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 November 2015 21:15 (eight years ago) link

lol thats another thing the prequels could have looked into. maybe it ultimately is about taxation and trade deals.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 12 November 2015 21:16 (eight years ago) link

Power grows out of the barrel of a death star

Capitalism Is A Death Cult And Science Is A Whore (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 12 November 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link

Episode 9 will end with a Death Star on Death Star superlaser duel.

jmm, Thursday, 12 November 2015 21:37 (eight years ago) link

"So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause."

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 November 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link

btw congrats to General Leia Organa. That's a nice promotion for someone who went through the first movie showing the irritation commensurate with finding the nail salon closed.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 November 2015 21:44 (eight years ago) link

well, she was a politician, but still a kid, really

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 12 November 2015 21:48 (eight years ago) link

her brother's biggest ambition was to maybe get off his world, someday, but mostly hang out at the convenience store with his friends while pretending to run an errand for power converters

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 12 November 2015 21:49 (eight years ago) link

well he's an American Graffiti character gone galactic

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 November 2015 21:53 (eight years ago) link

someone who went through the first movie showing the irritation commensurate with finding the nail salon closed.

LOL yeah chicks right?

Capitalism Is A Death Cult And Science Is A Whore (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 12 November 2015 22:27 (eight years ago) link

They give a sensible rationale in ANH in the officers meeting, which actually is a neat scene that I don't think we get another one of quality(not counting the prequels' shitty attempts).

http://static.fosketts.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Grand-Moff-Tarkin-500x283.jpg

"Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of this battle station."

This scene is also where he mentions how the Imperial Senate has been dissolved by the Emperor, and now regional governors have direct control over their respective territories.

So, yeah, mobile doomsday weapon to backstop an authoritarian power-grab.

And *of course* Wookieepedia has a write-up for it:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tarkin_Doctrine

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Thursday, 12 November 2015 22:28 (eight years ago) link

tbf tarkin never used that phrase, it was coined by charles krauthammer

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 12 November 2015 22:34 (eight years ago) link

i like Carrie Fisher, GOTT (moreso when she learned to act a little), but that character as a future general is mighty funny.

also fuck PC bullshit as always

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 November 2015 22:39 (eight years ago) link

the new poster for her is cool

lol lens flare tho

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 12 November 2015 22:40 (eight years ago) link

One of the few times that John Simon makes me laugh intentionally is when he calls Leia an Organic Lay.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 November 2015 22:41 (eight years ago) link

lol dlh

balls, Friday, 13 November 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link

god that is such a better version of phantom menace

balls, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link

Can't help feeling like John Boyega's dialect coach taught him to talk in Eddie Murphy's "white man" voice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7bh-H9ZfLQ

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Thursday, 19 November 2015 13:07 (eight years ago) link

super excited about those 70s-style space light panels in the still

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 November 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link

Whoa, regular stormtrooper dude with anti-lightsaber thing.

Capitalism Is A Death Cult And Science Is A Whore (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 19 November 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link

yeah, looks dumb

I think this movie will be bad now

Number None, Thursday, 19 November 2015 23:58 (eight years ago) link

RIP ep 7

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 20 November 2015 00:15 (eight years ago) link

time to die

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 20 November 2015 00:15 (eight years ago) link

Anybody else see that shot of Carrie Fisher on the set of Blade Runner?

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Friday, 20 November 2015 00:21 (eight years ago) link

i thought that was edward james olmos

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 20 November 2015 00:22 (eight years ago) link

Her boots were bigger

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Friday, 20 November 2015 17:10 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EypzUduBqiQ

how's life, Friday, 20 November 2015 18:03 (eight years ago) link

If I'd gone Navy I wonder if I'd still be in.

El Tomboto, Friday, 20 November 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link

Watching Jedi with the girls. They find the Ewoks adorable and keep asking why Luke keeps kissing his sister, because it's gross.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 21 November 2015 22:20 (eight years ago) link

Also, they have no idea they're called Ewoks, so they call them Super Bears.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 21 November 2015 23:10 (eight years ago) link

close enough

μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 22 November 2015 16:27 (eight years ago) link

Super Bears reminds me off the times Shoneys would have guest appearance by kids' tv knockoffs like the "Power Turtles"

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 22 November 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link

Do I want to avoid that link?

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link

nah, it's a non-spoiler

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link

Just confirming the long-rumored ascension of Lobot to primary protagonist status.

The Squirrel Who Punched His Dad In The Neck (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link

***DRUDGE SIREN****SPOILIDAD***

Mark Hammill grew a beard

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link

it's more that he's... growing a beard again

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link

There is another.

The Squirrel Who Punched His Dad In The Neck (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link

the beard stays

you go

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 21:23 (eight years ago) link

Abrams, Fisher, Ridley, Boyega, and Driver were on Kimmel last night. As expected, nothing was revealed; Driver even asked Abrams on set if he was allowed to say whether he appears in the film without a mask or not. Kimmel asked Abrams what the first word in the film is, and before responding Abrams paused and asked "Spoken?" which I guess is a tacit nod that they're sticking with the formalism of the opening crawl. Apparently the first spoken word in the movie is "This."

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 22:38 (eight years ago) link

no crawl = Rite of Spring-style riot

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 22:40 (eight years ago) link

Opening shot is of star destroyer passing 'Tattooine welcomes careful drivers' spaceboard.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 22:57 (eight years ago) link

There's a rear shot of Driver in one of the trailers with hood off, hair a-blowing. I can't see any way the studios controlling a 2015-ish franchise blockbuster would dare not succumb to the need to show the badguy's face during the climactic sword fight.

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 23:12 (eight years ago) link

I should probably stop watching these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e813AnfX0Y

Number None, Thursday, 26 November 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link

PG-13 bummer for my five yo, I think.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 26 November 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I feel like the trailer barrage is becoming a bit much. I'll be taking mental notes on what I haven't already seen by the time I get to redeem my ticket

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 November 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link

despite that, there clearly is a ton of stuff we haven't seen. Including one pretty important main character

Number None, Thursday, 26 November 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link

They will have Men in Black available at each theater to mind wipe you beforehand.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 November 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link

Jar Jar?

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 26 November 2015 20:57 (eight years ago) link

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/herocomplex/la-ca-hc-star-wars-lawrence-kasdan-20151206-story.html

Did you go back at any point and watch the original trilogy to get it fresh in your mind?

It's pretty much in my head — I guess it's part of my DNA at this point. But I don't think it's that relevant because we're doing a new thing. And it's so different.

I don't know if people recognize it or not, but the saga is this big tapestry that's cut into sections that are defined by the directors. George made one very George-y movie, and if you saw "American Graffiti," you're not surprised to see the ebullience that's in "A New Hope." Then for "Empire," he said, "I want this next chapter to have Irvin Kershner's quality to it." And it's dark and serious and scary and treats the characters differently. Richard Marquand was a lovely man, and "Jedi" has a kind of easygoing "this is going to be the happy ending" quality that he brought.

Just jump over the prequels for a second, where George was doing what George was doing and fulfilling his own desires. Now with J.J., you get a whole new generation with a kind of dynamic mastery of camera and effects put together by someone that has a strong personality himself. He's a really decent guy, and he makes movies the way I try to make movies, which is that it's a privilege to make a movie and no one should be miserable. You're spitting in the face of luck if you're not having a great time. And that's infused in the movie. So what you're going to get is very much the J.J. Abrams movie.

These movies will all be so different. Rian Johnson is a friend of mine — he's going to make some weird thing. If you've seen Rian's work, you know it's not going be like anything that's ever been in "Star Wars." You couldn't have three more different people than J.J., Rian and Colin. Those movies will have the "Star Wars" saga as their basis, but everything else will be different. Then Phil Lord and Chris Miller are going to make the Han Solo film and I can't guess what that will be like — and I'm writing it!

lol at his tactful dismissal of the prequels

Number None, Thursday, 3 December 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link

we're doing a new thing. And it's so different.

lol

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 3 December 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link

i'm starting to loathe the promotion for this now

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:17 (eight years ago) link

I stopped (or "stopped", since it's in your face and p much unavoidable) paying attention after the first trailer. Aside from noting how much merchandise there's been for individual characters to whom the public has still not been properly introduced (e.g. the Adam Driver Christmas ornament I saw this weekend).

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link

aside from a few web articles, and a couple fall trailers, i've seen nothing. No TV, haven't go shopping.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link

So is it going to be possible to see this not in 3D?

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:48 (eight years ago) link

yes, I'm seeing it not in 3d.

akm, Monday, 14 December 2015 20:49 (eight years ago) link

I pre-ordered a 2D ticket deliberately (this is in London)

I remember obtaining a "Revenge of the Jedi" action figure months before the movie came out - it has always been thus! Advance merchandising of characters you have no idea about is a crucial part of the Star Wars experience!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link

I guess Morbz doesn't visit the makeup counter: http://www.covergirl.com/cosmetics/starwars-collection

Οὖτις, Monday, 14 December 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link

DARE TO DISCOVER YOUR DARK SIDE WITH 400% MORE CORNER-TO-CORNER VOLUME

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link

Ok, does anyone know where in NYC there are 2D showings?

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link

"So is it going to be possible to see this not in 3D?"

This is 3D? I thought it was just IMAX...

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link

did you look at fandango or a similar site? it really looks like almost every movie place that has multiple theaters showing the movie has at least one where it's not in 3d

even the place near here that does the food/beer/movie thing has three options: 3d/mx, mx, and regular

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:02 (eight years ago) link

it's also in imax 3d! although that one is only at imax theaters

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link

I see most of my crappy blockbusters with one particular friend who always demands that we see them in 3D. This time I held firm, 2D or nothing.

Number None, Monday, 14 December 2015 21:04 (eight years ago) link

But again it's not actually a 3D film, right? They didn't shoot it in 3D so at best there is some post-production gimickry...

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:04 (eight years ago) link

it's a conversion job yeah, but pretty much everything is these days

Number None, Monday, 14 December 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link

kinda baffled that this latest 3D fad has lasted as long as it has

Οὖτις, Monday, 14 December 2015 21:08 (eight years ago) link

I think at this point the majority of people are just indifferent to it, but the theatres like it because they can charge more

Number None, Monday, 14 December 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link

I have seen three films that actual did 3d well
Drive Angry (bad movie with Nicholas Cage, but basically made for silly 3d)
Fury Road
Love (thanks, Gaspar Noe)

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link

btw for real star wars shit talk, I strongly urge you to embrace the christmas spirit and google "star wars caganer"

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:20 (eight years ago) link

I found 3D very uncomfortable in Fury Road -- that plus the overloud sound really killed my enjoyment even though it was a great flick.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link

Although the guitar-at-you-face payoff almost made it worth it.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link

I was thinking of maybe going to see this at BAM because I trust a *cinephile* theater to at least not blow out my eardrums.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:31 (eight years ago) link

(but only 3D afaict)

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:31 (eight years ago) link

3D in Fury Road was a waste of time.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:32 (eight years ago) link

I have misremembered, I did not actually see it in 3d, I just heard it was done well by friends. I saw it in glorious non-3d

so we're down to Nicholas Cage and ppl boning for my "essential 3d picks"

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link

I'm taking my kid to see the 3D version on opening night. Not sure why I made that decision. Start Wars ticket buying was such a fucking panicked reaction: "when are they on sale? I can't fall asleep. What - they're on sale NOW??? Ahhhhhhhhhhh!"

So I'll report back on that. Last movie I saw in 3D was Last Airbender though, so I don't have a good frame of reference for the technology.

how's life, Monday, 14 December 2015 21:39 (eight years ago) link

It'll be fine! Opening night - exciting!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:53 (eight years ago) link

the dark side flies at u face

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:54 (eight years ago) link

Not sure why you are doing that? Because you are an awesome dad who wants to let his kids bask in glory?

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:57 (eight years ago) link

The only 3D things I saw that worked for me (in a visual sense) were Hugo and Avatar. 3D conversions are awful.

schwantz, Monday, 14 December 2015 21:58 (eight years ago) link

mr veg was like why dont we go on Monday when there's less crowds and i was all hmm yes grownup Veg thinks that is v sensible

cut to: i just emailed mr veg abt going to Saturday 9:40am showing bcz FOMO

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 December 2015 22:06 (eight years ago) link

I had figured everyone would want to see this on opening night because by Monday spoilerz will be all over the place

Οὖτις, Monday, 14 December 2015 22:09 (eight years ago) link

(I am never seeing this movie in case anyone was wondering)`

Οὖτις, Monday, 14 December 2015 22:09 (eight years ago) link

SPOILER

Οὖτις, Monday, 14 December 2015 22:09 (eight years ago) link

i dont want to see it on friday night bcz I'm old & that seems kinda nutty

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 December 2015 22:10 (eight years ago) link

but maybe i do

shit

i hate this panic

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 December 2015 22:12 (eight years ago) link

I don't want to be crushed by throngs of nerds yelling woo

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 14 December 2015 22:12 (eight years ago) link

xxp see it on thursday night!

:)

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 14 December 2015 22:14 (eight years ago) link

man alive otm
mh not otm

i heard that 2 nerds are planning to get married in line on friday

which a) lol cheapskates and b) too bad if the movie sucks

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 December 2015 22:15 (eight years ago) link

I'm guessing over half of the costume brigade who would have been camping out all day before online ticketing will be going on Thursday, leaving most of the weekend for families or olds

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 14 December 2015 22:15 (eight years ago) link

i hope so

but i will be wearing my chewbacca hoodie so maybe i'm part of the problem

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 December 2015 22:16 (eight years ago) link

I'm considering buying a couple tickets for a Monday matinee, not sure how early I'd need to get there to avoid sitting with my face pressed against the screen, is an hour early enough?

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Monday, 14 December 2015 22:16 (eight years ago) link

if there are tickets I might just go to the latest thursday night show at the theater that has food & beer -- no unaccompanied ppl under 20 years old after 7pm! i am guessing the yelling brigade might be older than that, though

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 14 December 2015 22:17 (eight years ago) link

I remember seeing the rerelease of return of the jedi at a theater that has since been torn down that had the city's largest screen. it was slightly curved so if you sat close enough you could turn your head to watch tie fighters zooming past

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 14 December 2015 22:18 (eight years ago) link

I first looked at the food & beer options (Alamo Drafthouse), you have to reserve specific seats ahead of time. there are no showings with two seats together that are not in the first row for many weeks.

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Monday, 14 December 2015 22:19 (eight years ago) link

I am excited about the Alamo Drafthouse finally opening

Οὖτις, Monday, 14 December 2015 22:21 (eight years ago) link

http://www.flixbrewhouse.com/des-moines/film-info/star-wars-episode-vii-the-force-awakens

my local Drafthouse-alike theater

looks like the extra 2d one they added has seats at 11pm, I should go for it, right?

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 14 December 2015 22:26 (eight years ago) link

(full disclosure: I have enough vacation days to burn off that I am leaving work on Thursday and not returning until 2016, so this would be my first act of lazymas 2015)

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 14 December 2015 22:26 (eight years ago) link

by Monday spoilerz will be all over the place

a good film survives spoilers

so yes, go Friday

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 December 2015 22:33 (eight years ago) link

the novelization is released on friday, for everyone who wants to read the book first (lol)

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 14 December 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link

i had the *hardcover* novelization of A New Hope Star Wars.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 December 2015 22:37 (eight years ago) link

the writer of that one is the writer of the novelization of this one, too

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 14 December 2015 22:43 (eight years ago) link

Really don't care about what happens or avoiding spoilers. ESB was a shocking twist but deft plotting was never the series strong point. Han an Leia have a kid, they don't have a kid, they don't end up together, they do, it's all kind of equally plausible and exciting, which is to say yeah one of the outcomes will be inevitable.

It has nothing to do w if the movie is good or not IMO.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 December 2015 22:43 (eight years ago) link

had no idea Alan Dean Foster was the ghostwriter, or that he was still alive.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 December 2015 22:45 (eight years ago) link

yup

he was also the story writer (although not the screenwriter) of the first Star Trek movie

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 14 December 2015 22:46 (eight years ago) link

embargo on reviews finishes Wednesday December 16th at 12:01am.why can't they just embargo it til Thursday when the screenings are?? absolutely zero reason to even write/print a review for a movie everyone's already decided to see/not see!

piscesx, Monday, 14 December 2015 22:53 (eight years ago) link

the premier is in hollywood tonight. they started shutting down some of the streets at like 11am.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 14 December 2015 23:10 (eight years ago) link

nope, Hollywood Boulevard has been closed since at least Friday, and buses are rerouted to south of Santa Monica & Highland. (I had to walk 40 mins to get to a bus stop last night. (Then it was so cold I got an Uber rather than wait another 20 for the bus.))

glandular lansbury (sic), Monday, 14 December 2015 23:20 (eight years ago) link

(I think it's closed until Friday, so maybe there are multiple premieres there? Doofi are sleeping in tents in front of the Chinese Theatre.)

glandular lansbury (sic), Monday, 14 December 2015 23:23 (eight years ago) link

i don't blame them, once those prints of the movie are sold out you'll never get your hands on another one

nomar, Monday, 14 December 2015 23:24 (eight years ago) link

I bought us tix for Saturday morning at 9.40am --- I *almost* convinced myself to go on Friday night by myself.
I have no problem seeing movies on my own, but I was like, no I really do want to see this with Mr Veg --- it's always been a shared experience, I saw all the original movies with my brother & sister & Mum, and the prequels with my sister or Mr Veg. They're better enjoyed together...and that way it's less depressing if it's really crappy, lol

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 01:50 (eight years ago) link

I'm glad I convinced him to go on Saturday though...by the time I got home he'd revised up to Tuesday or Wednesday and I was like, "..."

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 01:51 (eight years ago) link

10:55pm thursday night, pray for me

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 02:24 (eight years ago) link

I'm next to a seat that might not be filled, and right behind a wheelchair spot, so I can drink heavily and duck out to the restroom without problems if the movie is bad and I start drinking heavily

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 02:25 (eight years ago) link

nice

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 02:29 (eight years ago) link

I like how I have this weird repetitive affliction with my posts now, like someone who may be drinking heavily

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 02:30 (eight years ago) link

The Doofi Awaken

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 03:59 (eight years ago) link

well luckily its cold as fuck right now so all the hollywood doofi are being appropriately punished by god

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 04:02 (eight years ago) link

Unimpressed overall

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 04:05 (eight years ago) link

Tho my opinion might change after I've seen it

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 04:06 (eight years ago) link

#noCollier

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 04:06 (eight years ago) link

uh oh

@devincf
STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS is ok. I know it's poetry, I know it rhymes, but does every line have to rhyme with the last poem?

polyphonic, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 06:05 (eight years ago) link

Yeah yeah we know it's A New Hope ver. 2

abcfsk, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 06:19 (eight years ago) link

pleased that cinemas in london are showing this in 2d as much as they are in 3d.

StillAdvance, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 10:55 (eight years ago) link

Xpost So, more reboot or relaunch than sequel? Fair enough, that's how Hollywood works, and good or bad there was no way a property this valuable was going to take anything but the safest route.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 13:07 (eight years ago) link

I really only kinda want to see this early-ish because, yes, spoilers. Otherwise, I'm realizing that I'm about as excited to see it as I generally am about seeing movies directed by J.J. Abrams.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 13:19 (eight years ago) link

@ZeitchikLAT
Order of cast prominence, in ascending order
5) Driver
4) Boyega
3) BB-8
2) Ford
1)Ridley
#StarWars
#TheForceAwakens
5:58 AM - 15 Dec 2015

StillAdvance, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 13:31 (eight years ago) link

absolutely zero reason to even write/print a review for a movie everyone's already decided to see/not see!

Counterpoint: a lot of people would be interested in seeing this provided it's not a TPM-level shitshow.

We've got a ticket for 7 on Thursday - pm so we miss the costumed lines, but early enough - I might remove bookmark for a bit.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 13:46 (eight years ago) link

Can't trust ass-kissing/covering celebs, and certainly don't trust anyone saying this has Best Picture potential (whatever that really means), but between these and the aforementioned "eh, it's OK," at least its seems to be solid. So that's good.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:10 (eight years ago) link

I'm just remembering that infamous first online review of TPM (on the Stereo Review site or something) where the guy absolutely panned it and it set the tone for everything that came after. So anything north of that is a positive sign.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:11 (eight years ago) link

Well, if Rob Liefeld and Josh Gad love it...

My expecations are still tempered, but it sounds more positive than not.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:14 (eight years ago) link

if Elizabeth Banks loved it...

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:14 (eight years ago) link

Love how the bar has been set so low that all it has to be is not bad to be considered a success.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:15 (eight years ago) link

Soto, you were just in Disney, right? Is there any Star Wars presence? Just last year I was really surprised by the conspicuous absence of Star Wars, Marvel and even Pixar, and a mad hustle to take advantage of Frozen (like a Frozen gift shop with fake snow on the floor). And yet there's Avatar-land construction ...

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:16 (eight years ago) link

(I mean, there is the modest Star Wars experience ride or whatever, but for a franchise that all but invented promo toys and swag there wasn't much to even buy.)

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link

do you ppl want to start a post-opening thread? for informed shit talk?

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:18 (eight years ago) link

Soto, you were just in Disney, right? Is there any Star Wars presence?

An understatement. I even saw goddamn R2 ear muffs.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link

They're supposedly beefing up the Marvel presence and there's an entire Star Wars land in development. But I agree that it's strange how unprepared they sometimes are to ride a wave of their own creation (my own example: I was last in WDW the spring after Frozen became huge and there was pretty much ZERO merchandise for the movie).

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link

That was a huge problem for Frozen in general. They didn't really have much merch until the summer after it came out.

how's life, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link

oh Disney has compensated: a Frozen ride will replace Norway's Malestrom.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:24 (eight years ago) link

Frozen is getting its own ride in Epcot soon. Avatar-land is still a head-scratcher to me, but I guess it'd be pretty easy (if radical) to expand/rebrand Tomorrowland into Star Wars stuff (a la the recent expansion of Fantasyland).

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link

Jinx!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, I know about the Maelstrom travesty. One of my favorite rides...

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link

In related news, Spielberg went as himself to the premiere, and Kate Capshaw went as Steampunk Annie Hall. A bold cosplay choice!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/12/15/06/2F63040700000578-0-image-a-35_1450162566275.jpg

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link

Motherfuckers. I made my parents take me on that like five times in a row. First 20000 leagues, now this.

Ok I googled and 20,000 leagues was apparently closed over 20 years ago but still.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link

replacing all these old rides and somehow the It's a Small World travesty still exists

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link

"it can't be that bad," i thought. "it'll be funny to mock, this ridiculous ride"

think i made it about thirty seconds before hoping for swift death

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:45 (eight years ago) link

Just looked at this and surprised at how few of them are anywhere near new rides:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/juliapugachevsky/a-definitive-ranking-of-all-the-rides-at-disney-world#.kbGa6eVMO

Anyway, enough with the derail I guess.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:54 (eight years ago) link

It's A Small World gets a "thrill factor" of 2.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 16:23 (eight years ago) link

the It's a Small World travesty still exists

you're dead to me, It's a Small World is awesome

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 16:48 (eight years ago) link

possibly the best designed ride in the park

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link

(I'm talking about the Disneyland version, idk anything about Disneyworld)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, I dig me some Mary Blair.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link

Small World is great, fuckups all the haterz. Does every ride need to be a thrill ride?

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 17:33 (eight years ago) link

Fuckups? Weird phone....

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 17:34 (eight years ago) link

to me, it's a thousand creepy dolls singing a really sing-songy tale of friendship that really grates after the first couple times you've heard it. and you float past them all in the dark, as they look on with dead eyes.

I liked Mr. Toad's Wild Ride which was boring as heck, ride-wise

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 17:59 (eight years ago) link

it is not dark

maybe you would prefer a thousand creepy yodas and storm troopers

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:01 (eight years ago) link

It's a world of Bothans
A world of Siths

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:05 (eight years ago) link

no thanks! just not my thing, you guys can have it and i will continue to joke about it

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link

a few thousand diverse ewoks singing ewoks songs sounds possibly worse

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKvdrqFSwhQ

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:20 (eight years ago) link

Speaking of Ewoks singing, any mention of a musical number in this new movie?

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:21 (eight years ago) link

a few thousand diverse ewoks singing ewoks songs sounds possibly worse

― μpright mammal (mh),

thank you for introducing me to tonight's nightmare

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link

I hear Chewie has a dance number called the Wookiewaken

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link

i figure this new movie can't be too bad if you keep expectations low. i just re-watched the "original trilogy' for the first time in > 25 years so my expectations are suitably diminished. (that isn't a dig. i like the first one especially. but they are certainly not deathless masterpieces. the production design and effects are consistently stunning, though. i want to visit bespin.)

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link

10 minutes of Yub Nub wouldn't be so bad.

jmm, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link

i don't think 'empire' is the best film (depends on by what standard you're judging of course) but it certainly is the handsomest. the filmmaking isn't too flashy but the compositions are consistently more graphically engaging than in the other two films. (that said there are a few moments of interesting depth staging/rack focus in the first one that show some of things lucas is good at--other than world-building, of course.)

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link

Lin-Manuel Miranda on His Star Wars Cantina Song
www.vulture.com/2015/.../lin-manuel-miranda-star-wars-cantina-song.ht...

Lin-Manuel Miranda Talks 'Joyous' 'Star Wars' Cantina Music
www.rollingstone.com/.../lin-manuel-miranda-talks-joyous-...

Hamilton's Lin-Manuel Miranda Wrote Some Star Wars Music
www.slashfilm.com/lin-manuel-miranda-star-wars/

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JJ Abrams wrote new Star Wars cantina music with Hamilton ...
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glandular lansbury (sic), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link

Thread delivers.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:33 (eight years ago) link

I just remembered that there's a Star Wars character who's actually named Droopy McCool.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link

looking forward to dling this as soon as it leaks.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link

The screening was an hour ago. I missed it b/c work and food poisoning (I didn't want to underestimate the dark side of the Force).

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:45 (eight years ago) link

My jam when I was 5:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOp04pxm7ro

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link

I'm excited to see these guys. Hopefully they get to kick some stuff.

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/12/13/star-wars-the-force-awakens-iko-uwais-and-yayan-ruhians-roles-revealed

jmm, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link

Huh, wtf are they dressed as cowboys? Disco might not have sucked, but it was still pretty weird.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:48 (eight years ago) link

xpost Oh man, costume changes! And it gets weirder!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:48 (eight years ago) link

Sometimes I think Lucas is actually history's greatest and most successful troll, giving background characters "names" that are never spoken onscreen or used anywhere than on toy packaging or Wookieepedia, just to see how people will react.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:52 (eight years ago) link

he sure played a long con. 30+ years of "Star Wars is all written out, it's 12 movies long!" while just making stuff all along paid off mightily in the end.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link

My jam when I was 5:

I was surprised not to hear that Meco track in the movie, since it was on the radio constantly when the film finally came to my town late in the year. (Also remember being puzzled at my realization, 20 minutes in, of the absence of any opening credits.)

kevin smith what a bro (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:01 (eight years ago) link

Droopy McCool.

the best character name is still Salacious B. Crumb!

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:06 (eight years ago) link

also, further evidence that either lucas is some kind idiot-savant or is a magnificent troll:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jizz

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link

Wait, Salacious has a middle initial? How has that escaped my notice?

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link

I wish I could've gotten a job recommending character names to Lucas. Sludge Fartpants. Smirk Hamhands. Fidget O'Dicksplitter.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link

or at least a job with MAD Magazine

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link

Same diff.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link

Wait, Salacious has a middle initial? How has that escaped my notice?

― Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, December 15, 2015 1:19 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the real question is, what does that middle initial stand for? disney ought to address this before the new film is released.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link

Sometimes I think Lucas is actually history's greatest and most successful troll, giving background characters "names" that are never spoken onscreen or used anywhere than on toy packaging or Wookieepedia, just to see how people will react.

― Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, December 15, 2015 12:52 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

am i wrong that boba fett (sp?) isn't actually named in the original trilogy? he's kind of the ultimate example of this.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link

he is referred to numerous times simply as "bounty hunter" as i recall.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link

In Jedi during the fight around the Sarlacc, you can just hear Han Solo say, "Boba Fett? Where?" He's definitely not named on-screen in Empire, but he was in the cartoon segment of the Holiday Special, which preceded it. So a borderline case.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link

so is the holiday special canon?

i was describing it to some friends recently, and they didn't seem to believe me.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link

1:20s

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link

send them the youtube link, amateurist!

polyphonic, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link

well that depends on how you feel about Bea Arthur xxpost

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link

My gf had no idea that it existed, so I started playing it for her last year. She had a hard time believing it was real. Understandably.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link

i saw it for the first time over thanksgiving, truly mind boggling

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link

poor Boba Fett, he was just a sap with daddy issues

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:00 (eight years ago) link

if JJ Abrams were truly cool, he'd embed an obscure allusion to the christmas special somewhere in 'the force awakens'

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link

maybe a cutaway to a wookiee family gathering

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link

My wife and I watched the Rifftrax version over T'giving, although I do also own a bootleg DVD of it.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link

I love how Boba Fett's death is so cartoony and ignominious, befitting the fact that he's a complete non-character, when his 'origin' in the prequels is this very momentous scene.

jmm, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link

I remember having no idea who 'Boba Fett' referred to even after having seen all the films a couple of times. I still don't get why he's such a big deal.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:02 (eight years ago) link

his costume is cool/badass

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link

wears a helmet, has a wrist rope, sucks dick

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link

Vader is firm with him, among the other bounty hunters, about not killing Skywalker, implying he's ruthless or something

also that whole carbonite freezing thing

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link

I love how Boba Fett's death is so cartoony and ignominious, befitting the fact that he's a complete non-character, when his 'origin' in the prequels is this very momentous scene.

yeah i thought about this as i was rewatching the 'original trilogy.' i don't actually follow this stuff closely, but i get the sense that his role in the star wars world was enlarged in various auxilliary/ancillary narratives (comic books, tv shows, etc.) in the time between the two trilogies.

i sometimes wonder what it'd be like to watch the prequel trilogy first, and only then watch the original trilogy. i imagine there are any number of young (and not so young?) kids who had this experience. i imagine that there's lots in the original trilogy that would seem truly inexplicable if not perverse in light of the metastasized backstory of the prequels.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link

still have no idea who Boba Fett is

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link

A good friend of mind just did exactly that in prep for this movie -- watched all the movies with his son in numerical order. He said his son was really, really freaked out and upset by the end of Episode III, so he had to assure him that it gets better, then they watched the original trilogy.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link

Boba Fett was a big deal in large part because they went out of their way to make him a big deal long before Empire was released.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link

I've read somewhere about people who watch all of them in numerical order, and they say the original trilogy becomes gibberish as a result. So much of those films depend on the great great twists, so a lot of it becomes a slog when everything has been spelled out in advance.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link

still have no idea who Boba Fett is

― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, December 15, 2015 2:07 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

mascot of a chain of shrimp restaurants IIRC

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link

he was a legendary action figure because he got recalled (removably rocket was a safety hazard)

akm, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link

but enough about scott walker

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:17 (eight years ago) link

xpost Just like the Death Star (whose trash compactor was filled with razor-sharp shrapnel before they replaced it with a low-grade foam).

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:17 (eight years ago) link

that ellen video is amazing, carrie fisher is rad

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:17 (eight years ago) link

xpost Just like the Death Star (whose trash compactor was filled with razor-sharp shrapnel before they replaced it with a low-grade foam).

― Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, December 15, 2015 2:17 PM (16 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

on that note, remember that weird creature in the trash compactor? the one that almost kills luke? how did that creature survive the compactor being, well, compacted every few hours?

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:18 (eight years ago) link

it was really skinny

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link

Its biological composition was largely low-grade foam.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link

boba fett helmet was one of the rejected prototypes/concepts for vader's helmet iirc

ogmor, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:21 (eight years ago) link

still have no idea who Boba Fett is

he's Fetty Wap's dad

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:21 (eight years ago) link

We called him Bubba Fat when we were kids.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link

Boba Fett's "rep" during the original trilogy was totally established by stuff outside the film - he was the first action figure you could order via "mail away", for ex.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link

The foam in the trash compactor was in the mini toy version iirc

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link

Boba Fett's "rep" during the original trilogy was totally established by stuff outside the film - he was the first action figure you could order via "mail away", for ex.

The very first Star Wars figures were "mail away"

Let's not forget that Boba Fett's spaceship is a big metal elephant head, too

glandular lansbury (sic), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link

Trying to remember what ultimately happened to Boba Fett in the EU and realizing that I'm way more excited about snagging my copies of Tales Of Mos Eisley/the Bounty Hunters/Jabba's Palace from my mom's house over Christmas than I am about seeing the new movie.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link

it's actually a streetlight xp

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:46 (eight years ago) link

EU?

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:48 (eight years ago) link

Get out.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link

j/k. Expanded universe. Novels, etc.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link

Let's not forget that Boba Fett's spaceship is a big metal elephant head, too

― glandular lansbury (sic),

and it was called SLAVE-1

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link

The very first Star Wars figures were "mail away"

the pedantry

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link

Do you expect any less itt

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link

xxp

i kind of imagine BF listening to this in his spaceship on repeat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzybwwf2HoQ

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link

I remember really liking Boba Fett's spaceship.

The more I think about it, the more I realize that the spaceships and other vehicles in those movies (AT-ATs, etc.) were the main thing that I liked about them.

silverfish, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:56 (eight years ago) link

the Millennium Falcon was quite well detailed. I used to recreate the fight on Jabba's Sail Barge on the roof of the Falcon.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link

This is comprehensive and incomprehensible: http://screenrant.com/star-wars-journey-force-awakens-guide/

schwantz, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link

I definitely spent a lot of time trying to recreate these spaceships with my legos. I think the only ones I managed to do reasonable well were Tie Fighters.

silverfish, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link

https://lightsaber.withgoogle.com/experience

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 21:21 (eight years ago) link

so how big is Adam Driver's lightsaber?

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 21:23 (eight years ago) link

The more I think about it, the more I realize that the spaceships and other vehicles in those movies (AT-ATs, etc.) were the main thing that I liked about them.

the character and technology design of the original trilogy is nonpareil -- completely stunning -- i think people who dismiss these films think these things aren't important. but it all depends on how you look at it!

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 21:25 (eight years ago) link

the world-building of the og trilogy is still pretty mindblowing even now, it's so immersive

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 21:27 (eight years ago) link

the character and technology design of the original trilogy is nonpareil

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Nonpareils.jpg/500px-Nonpareils.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 21:27 (eight years ago) link

lol i was picturing that too

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link

One small bit in TESB I've always liked: after the Imperial troops have entered the Hoth bunker and Vader leads the way and the scene builds to the possibility of his and the gang's interacting but it doesn't come. It's the kind of small but essential storytelling touch that Kershner had that Lucas didn't.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link

xxxp tried four times, gave up.

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link

i was intrigued by Kasdan saying he went off w/ Kershner to do his draft of the script. We forget that WGA credits and who wrote what don't often match up.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link

I'm sure this was posted way up thread but just in case any ship geeks missed it

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1NEKrnWO--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/xe0yjmmjhdedgykt0a1j.jpg

http://imgur.com/gallery/Zt9Y4

(massive gallery of models from the OT)

Number None, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 21:35 (eight years ago) link


i was intrigued by Kasdan saying he went off w/ Kershner to do his draft of the script. We forget that WGA credits and who wrote what don't often match up.

― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, December 15, 2015 3:34 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's a good rule of thumb to presume that, credit or no, a director had a lot to do w/ shaping a film's narrative. unless one has evidence to the contrary.

leigh brackett's credit is widely viewed as a courtesy. i haven't read her draft (which is out there) but most people suggest it doesn't have a ton to do w/ what eventually became 'empire'.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 21:41 (eight years ago) link

The world building in Star Wars is definitely the main thing of it from the point of film history. For better or for worse. At some point 'amazingly build world' became 'hodgepodge of marketing posibilities'...

Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 21:53 (eight years ago) link

heh, that point was in 1977 (or before)!

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 21:56 (eight years ago) link

i mean star wars was always about marketing! i don't think it's particularly cynical, either -- the marketing possibilities just dovetail with the world-building ambitions.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 21:57 (eight years ago) link

Perhaps not, but the wave it began became plenty cynical...

Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 22:00 (eight years ago) link

grownups say that now

i'll remember those toys fondly thank u v much

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 22:03 (eight years ago) link

a director had a lot to do w/ shaping a film's narrative.

there are entire eras and settings of commercial filmmaking where this is not true

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 22:06 (eight years ago) link

"grownups say that now

i'll remember those toys fondly thank u v much"

exactly. it's easy to get disgusted by the amount of tie in marketing these days, but these things made my life so much more livable in the late 70's. I can't even imagine life without my action figures when I was 7.

akm, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 22:08 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYyuo7gm-aQ

akm, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 22:13 (eight years ago) link

a director had a lot to do w/ shaping a film's narrative.

there are entire eras and settings of commercial filmmaking where this is not true

― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, December 15, 2015 4:06 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well, it depends... it's true of a lot of classical-era directors, and probably most contemporary hollywood directors.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 22:15 (eight years ago) link

are we gonna mention Victor Fleming again

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 22:22 (eight years ago) link

(I am never seeing this movie in case anyone was wondering)`

― Οὖτις, Monday, December 14, 2015 2:09 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in case anyone was wondering:

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Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:35 (eight years ago) link

<3 Οὖτις

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:35 (eight years ago) link

lol

how's life, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:49 (eight years ago) link

🏆

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 00:03 (eight years ago) link

WINNER

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 00:03 (eight years ago) link

of our hearts

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 00:04 (eight years ago) link

looool

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 00:27 (eight years ago) link

so i'm watching this 'despecialized edition' of SW and while it's amazing it seems to me (having recently seen a 35mm print from the film's original release) that it does retain some of the revisions (audio and video) made to the film since the 1990s.,

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:17 (eight years ago) link

Ha. I was just thinking earlier today that I sure know an awful lot about Star Wars for someone with so little interest in the new movie.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:24 (eight years ago) link

xpost There are a bunch of 'despecialized' editions out there. There's at least one super-anal version that does try, as much as possible, to restore it to the original theatrical version.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:25 (eight years ago) link

There's at least one super-anal version that does try, as much as possible, to restore it to the original theatrical version.

that's the one I got; the one that got all the press = Harmy's Despecialized Edition. 17 GB! it looks great, but i'm not convinced that it looks and sounds like a 1977/78 version of the film. (which is complicated since there were at least three different sound mixes for the film's first release.)

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:26 (eight years ago) link

in the print i saw recently, the early scenes on tatooine (sp?) were beautifully grainy -- almost foggy. like they were shot with a really, really long lens. some of that seems to be gone in all the video versions i've seen.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:27 (eight years ago) link

also the original shot of the death star exploding (in slight slo-mo) is lovely.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:30 (eight years ago) link

I'm totally bringing a bong to this

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:30 (eight years ago) link

Didn't they release the original theatrical cut as a bonus disc on DVD a decade or so ago?

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:30 (eight years ago) link

Yes but it was a shit transfer ripped from the 90s laserdiscs

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:31 (eight years ago) link

Still worth it to not see A NEW HOPE in the crawl

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:32 (eight years ago) link

yeah but

1) it's non-anamorphic
2) very soft and blurry (taken from old laserdisc transfer to which a bunch of cheap early-90s "digital noise reduction" had been applied)
3) has "ghosting" and other analog video artefacts
4) has all kinds of audio problems beyond that
5) IIRC it uses 1985 sound re-mix prepared for first VHS release, not 1977 (or even 1981) sound mixes (mono or stereo or Dolby surround)

(there's a wikipedia page that documents all this in more detail than probably any of us care to read about)

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:33 (eight years ago) link

xpost

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:33 (eight years ago) link

It was more of a fuck you than not including it IMO

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:33 (eight years ago) link

i mean, i know, it's easy to make fun of this type of anality, but if you're using STAR WARS to, say, teach the history of visual effects and sound design, it matters to actually have something that resembles the original release.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:34 (eight years ago) link

It was more of a fuck you than not including it IMO

― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, December 15, 2015 7:33 PM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

huh?

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:34 (eight years ago) link

That Lucas deliberately 'caved' to OG fans by including the original cuts in less than desirable quality

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:35 (eight years ago) link

Ie "ok you get it but I pissed all over it first"

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:36 (eight years ago) link

oh, i see.

it occurs to me that the very perfectionism that led STAR WARS to become a landmark in visual effects (and it still really dazzles on that score) is what led lucas to constantly re-work the damn thing (albeit with much lower quality control).

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:36 (eight years ago) link

i suspect that most of the parts of harmy's that don't include restored original fx are just from the se blu-rays-- iirc there is a visible change in the quality (used neutrally) of the image when it cuts to e.g. the landspeeder. could be wrong. those things are treasures tho.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:44 (eight years ago) link

tbh the landspeeder stuff is precisely what makes me think this doesn't really look like the 1977 release

in the print i saw, underneath the landspeeder there is a very conspicuous blur. in the "despecialized edition" there's a very well-defined shadow instead -- which is precisely what was done to "improve" the FX, if not for the 1997 edition then for earlier video releases. in other words, the FX seem to have vestiges of later re-toolings.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:48 (eight years ago) link

hell, all those Tatooine scenes looked murky for years, which fit the drabness of living on a desert planet without punk rock and bright clothes.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:50 (eight years ago) link

also i've always liked the searchers-quoting sequence where he returns home to find his aunt/uncle dead. i've always been a little shocked that they included those charred corpses in there--that's pretty intense stuff for kids. (and of course if it was a more thoroughgoing 'searchers' homage the horror would have been all displayed on obi-wan's face.)

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:50 (eight years ago) link

and Snaggletooth's severed arm!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:54 (eight years ago) link

yeah! i don't object to any of this stuff. it's good to freak kids out. all the more reason to regret the relatively sanitized sequels.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:56 (eight years ago) link

I liked the pigeon droppings on Boba Fett's armor.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:58 (eight years ago) link

i suspect that most of the parts of harmy's that don't include restored original fx are just from the se blu-rays-- iirc there is a visible change in the quality (used neutrally) of the image when it cuts to e.g. the landspeeder. could be wrong. those things are treasures tho.

― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:44 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's some YouTube clips that show you what's being patched in from where

tbh tho the platonic Star Wars is one your mum taped off the telly two Christmases ago with an Argos advert and one for double deckers between yodas introduction and going back to cloud city

carly rae jetson (thomp), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:58 (eight years ago) link

and Snaggletooth's severed arm!

Production photo shows they originally had something more hardcore in mind:

http://i.imgur.com/BjiJv.jpg

kevin smith what a bro (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:07 (eight years ago) link

IIRC, the walrus guy in the cantina fight ("Ponda Baba" sez wookieepedia), I had his action figure, and his arm was frickin' detachable. Because 6 years olds need to be able realistically simulate the maiming that happens in bar fights that involve light sabers

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:10 (eight years ago) link

Love the pipe in that photo

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:12 (eight years ago) link

I knew him as Walrus Man, a frequent cross-brand character in my childhood, serving Megatron and Serpentor with grace and efficiency.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:12 (eight years ago) link

lol, his friend is named Dr. Cornelius Evazan

http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/galleries/2012/Review_DrEvazanTVC/Review_DrEvazanTVC_still.JPG

jmm, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:15 (eight years ago) link

A doctor with the death sentence on 12 systems

kevin smith what a bro (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 02:35 (eight years ago) link

gawd, I had a guy who i lived with in college who would walk up to people in bars and say HE DOESN'T LIKE YOU... I DON'T LIKE YOU EITHER

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 03:53 (eight years ago) link

u_u

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 04:02 (eight years ago) link

i prefer the names Richard Pryor calls them in his bar sketch

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 06:24 (eight years ago) link

Not sure if this has been mentioned but there are some other versions around now, some enthusiasts have been buying up original prints, digitising the best reels with a 4k scanner and then going through and cleaning up dirt:

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/team-negative1-star-wars-1977-35mm-theatrical-version-release-details-and-updates/id/14590/page/1
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Team-Negative1-The-Empire-Strikes-Back-1980-35mm-Theatrical-Version-Release-Details-and-Updates/id/16108/page/1

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 10:23 (eight years ago) link

Hate how good cinemas in London are screening this over the weekend just to get punters in.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 11:05 (eight years ago) link

Bastards.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 11:08 (eight years ago) link

Production photo shows they originally had something more hardcore in mind:

In the novelization, not only does Obi-Wan decapitate and, uh, de-arm-itate Walrus Man; he bisects Dr. Evazan from top to bottom. That may have been a little much for a PG movie in 1977.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 13:08 (eight years ago) link

I always thought Alec Guinness voiced, uh, Dr. Evazan. It sounds like one of his imitations.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 13:09 (eight years ago) link

Star Wars: The Force Awakens is no more and no less than the movie that made us love it in the first place. In fact, it's basically the same thing. Isn't that what we all wanted anyway?

No. No, it isn't. Is that supposed to be a point in its favor?

My biggest apprehension about this is that it winds up being more of a nostalgic look back at why people love the original films rather than a thing that stands and earns love on its own terms. Something like The Muppets, which is more about the creator's fond memories than it is about moving on to the next chapter. Nostalgia. Legacy. Blechh.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 13:22 (eight years ago) link

I clearly have no issue with nostalgia on its own terms but fan service is kind of the worst. I don't need the Chris Farley Show retrospective.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 13:28 (eight years ago) link

Apparently the reaction is relentless, which was NOT the case in '77... and why I hate mersh action movies now.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 13:31 (eight years ago) link

did you mean action?

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 13:36 (eight years ago) link

yes, f u

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 13:37 (eight years ago) link

:D

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 13:38 (eight years ago) link

I'm not interested in reading what other people think of the movie, I'm interested in what *I* think of it.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 13:40 (eight years ago) link

its jj abrams. he is crippled by both his own personal reverence of his childhood favourites (see star trek) and studios that no doubt do not want anyone messing around with a winning brand/franchise. i dont expect this to be anything more than satisfying on account of it simply not being a total diaster. i dont think his aim was to really come up with anything that pointed the way forward, just to make sure he gets the series back on track. but his films have never struck me as being particularly ambitious or having anything new to add to their histories, they are more just legacy place holders/extenders.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 13:41 (eight years ago) link

I remember almost nothing about any Abrams movie I've seen. Beastie Boys songs in the far future. That, I remember.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 13:52 (eight years ago) link

I feel like L'il Kirk listening to "Sabotage" four centuries from now was kinda the culmination of that Futurama joke where Leela refers to Sir Mix-A-Lot as "classical music."

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 13:59 (eight years ago) link

tbh i dont even know if he was/is a star trek fan, but it all feels like someone with no real ideas of their own, but having faith that affection for the source material, good craft, and general care (cos thats what 80s movies had right) is enough. he makes me think of what (spielberg fan) dawson in dawsons creek would make if he got a job in hollywood. hes like someone who takes on board every idea offered on fan forums, for fear of offending those guys.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 14:02 (eight years ago) link

The forgotten/forgettable Super 8 was the perfect encapsulation of everything good(ish) about Abrams and everything terrible, general competence and a sort of appealing reverence for the heyday of mainstream Spielberg kid sic-fi and a complete lack of the instincts and conviction needed to pull the nostalgia trip off.

I'm seeing this with my kids ASAP, because that is what it is there for.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 14:25 (eight years ago) link

The AV Club review makes it sound like exactly the movie I was expecting.

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTLAx3VDX7g

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 14:57 (eight years ago) link

xpost I respect that review for keeping the plot clouded while still being pretty thorough about pros and cons. Don't think I need to read any more reviews, since they'll likely give away what few surprises this apparently holds.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

Man, is Fallon anything but him and celebrities goofing around?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link

Oh good, Fallon likes Star Wars.

jmm, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link

Doesn't Fallon like literally everything?

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link

alcohol most of all, iirc

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link

Best thing I've read about this movie: Candyass Fallon asking H Ford if he got sentimental playing Han again; the reply: "No, I got paid."

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link

Is Candyass Fallon something real or just a morbsism?

In other news, my kid just got sent home from school throwing up, so we might not be going to opening night after all.

how's life, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 15:32 (eight years ago) link

Most people only start throwing up after they've seen the new Star Wars movie. </morbs>

Sorry to hear about your kid. That's a sucky double whammy.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 15:36 (eight years ago) link

the reply: "No, I got paid."

Rather Han Solo-like answer

jmm, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 15:38 (eight years ago) link

but who shot first?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link

My local critic

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 15:52 (eight years ago) link

I'm only throwing up my old lunch. /kisses

I might actually see this in 2D at a bargain matinee while I'm on staycation, so there.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link

Is Candyass Fallon something real or just a morbsism?

it is the natural state of Fallon. the "Candyass" is generally implied.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link

He's so "nice" he makes Leno look like Lewis Black.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link

He's so not funny, he makes Leno seem funny.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 16:23 (eight years ago) link

he's such a corporate tool he makes Leno look like Bakunin

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 16:26 (eight years ago) link

Leno was always a dickhead to guests, never seemed to care what they said

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 16:26 (eight years ago) link

"liking cars" perhaps the lamest rich person attribute as well

Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link

The Force Awakens is effectively a remake of the first Star Wars, a smooth repurposing and reconfiguring of some very familiar beats rather than a whole new direction. This is what J.J. Abrams does: rather than coming up with his own material, he takes a sturdy foundation (Star Trek, Mission: Impossible, the Amblin Films corpus) and, like Lord-Miller with a (mostly) straight face, reworks it a bit. He’s not the guy who designs the car, he’s the mechanic who tinkers with the engine for a little while and makes it run eight miles faster. This might not be such a big deal if more people were competent at delivering spatially coherent, reasonably exciting action franchise installments, but there aren’t, so I’m all for it: these trains are going to run anyway, so they might as well run on time. In a friend’s post-screening words, Abrams’ task was to “unfuck” the franchise, and he’s done precisely that.

http://filmmakermagazine.com/96689-a-spoiler-free-review-of-star-wars-episode-vii-the-force-awakens-a-film-by-j-j-abrams/

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link

like Lord-Miller with a (mostly) straight face,

abrams is never gonna make a movie as genuinely unhinged and delightful as cloudy with a chance of meatballs, c'mon

hand of jehuty and the blowfish (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 17:07 (eight years ago) link

Abrams’ task was to “unfuck” the franchise, and he’s done precisely that.

Put that on the poster.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link

nice to see the general consensus on abrams is a fair one

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link

Star Wars: Unfucked

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link

A New Fuck

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link

Darth Fucker

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link

the marketing options alone stagger the mind

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 17:45 (eight years ago) link

Salacious F. Crumb

Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 17:49 (eight years ago) link

George Fucas

Evan, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 17:59 (eight years ago) link

fuck skyfucker

hand of jehuty and the blowfish (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 19:23 (eight years ago) link

Jabba the Fuck

Speaking of, why 'the Hutt'? It's not 'Wicket the Ewok' or 'Han the Corellian' or 'Sarlacc the Pit'.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 19:29 (eight years ago) link

seems indicative of racist attitudes towards the hutts imo

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link

Foster the People
Cage the Elephant
Jabba the Hutt

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link

iirc the hutts are both a species and a crime syndicate, so it's almost like a title

having every member of a species be a crime lord is kind of o_O but hey, it's star wars. they also have a planet/race that is 99% banking

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link

It has kind of a gangster movie sound to it. Like 'The Turk' in Godfather.

jmm, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hutt_Clan

The Hutt Clan, also known as the Hutt Cartel and sometimes simply as the Hutts, was one of the most powerful crime families in the galaxy around the time of the Clone Wars. It was governed by the Grand Hutt Council, whose members were the heads of the five Hutt families which ruled over a number of systems, known as Hutt Space.

the uh, five families, huh

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link

Ah, chicaboog noon-eeg, Corleone. Tah keeng sa leeng ah pak mugglah

nomar, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link

According to film historian Laurent Bouzereau, Jabba the Hutt's death in Return of the Jedi was suggested by script writer Lawrence Kasdan. Lucas decided Leia should strangle him with her slave chain. He was inspired by a scene from The Godfather (1972) where an obese character named Luca Brasi (Lenny Montana) is garroted by an assassin.[47]

jmm, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link

the five Hutt families which ruled over a number of systems, known as Hutt Space.

And here I thought Queen only made one album about adventures in space.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link

Nice.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:02 (eight years ago) link

there's a Truman Capote Hutt in the Clone Wars show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsIALpfq8p8

Number None, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:38 (eight years ago) link

(George's idea)

Number None, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:38 (eight years ago) link

i'm starting to feel a little bad for the prequels

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link

The what now?

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link

I'm sure that the people in charge of determining the new canon deliberated long and hard about the inclusion of the prequels.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link

"determining the new canon"

reaching for my revolver

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:43 (eight years ago) link

look out everyone, morbs has a hand canon

polyphonic, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link

i'm with morbs on this; just the sound of that phrase gives me hives

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link

also this movie is destined to be underwhelming (to anyone, like me, who isn't in this for the long haul of endless sequels, spin-offs, spandrels, etc.) b/c of its need to jumpstart a franchise. whatever world-building thoughts lucas may have had in his head in 1975–77, he couldn't have had much expectation that he'd be allowed to make any more films*, and so the first film was designed to be satisfying on its own.

i mean i guess you could argue that the whole franchise thing is just a more literal version of the thing that hollywood does, according to christian metz et al, which is to satisfy that urge to scratch an itch but not so much that the itch is gone.

*in an alternate universe, the first STAR WARS flopped and lucas devoted the rest of his career to writing comic books elaborating on the universe he had created. in 2015 those comics are collected in a handsome hardcover edition by fantagraphics publishing.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link

in the alternate universe, AVClub has a WATCH THIS column dedicated to this underseen sci-fi curiosity that starred the daughter of debbie reynolds and--get this--alec guinness of all people.

nomar, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link

also this movie is destined to be underwhelming (to anyone, like me, who isn't in this for the long haul of endless sequels, spin-offs, spandrels, etc.) b/c of its need to jumpstart a franchise.

I'm not "in it for the long haul" I just wanna watch this one movie and see how I actually feel about it?

polyphonic, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:55 (eight years ago) link

why the question mark?

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link

i wasn't addressing you much less attacking you; i didn't even notice your posts.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link

They (like practically everyone who's trying to make an expansive, multi-tiered movie franchise) are probably overshooting with the multiple spin-offs etc. I mean, in this case, they'll probably do fine business-wise but it kinda dilutes the special-ness of these movies being a once-in-a-while thing. We've previously had six movies over the span of almost 40 years (at least half of which were not well-loved by many) and we're on track to double that number within the next probably five years or so? Seems...unwise.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:06 (eight years ago) link

why the question mark?

I just talk that way, it's annoying probably

i wasn't addressing you much less attacking you; i didn't even notice your posts.

I didn't think you were addressing me or attacking me specifically. I just felt you were creating a dichotomy between true believers and everyone else, and that everyone else will be underwhelmed ... and by a movie none of us have seen yet except maybe some of the film goons.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link

I bored to shit with the whole Marvel thing, even though I was super inboard at the beginning. That definitely feeds into my hesitation on the new trilogy-plus angle.

how's life, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:26 (eight years ago) link

metal hand we see in the trailers probably isn't even luke, it's Iron Man.

nomar, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:27 (eight years ago) link

and that everyone else will be underwhelmed ...

it's just a hypothesis

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link

it's just a hypothesis

and it very well could be correct!

polyphonic, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link

Vader: Luke, you can destroy the Emperor. He has foreseen this. It is your destiny! Join me, and together, we can rule the galaxy as father and son! Come with me. It is the only way.
[Luke lets go of the projection and falls into the shaft]
Vader: Luke, it's just a hypothesis.

Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:32 (eight years ago) link

I still love the whole Marvel thing but the way they're structuring their movies/shows makes sense because it's a reflection of how those stories were told in their original medium. Every other impending attempt at constructing a cinematic universe (yes, even DC's, given that their decisions thus far indicate the absence of a strong guiding hand) seems like folly to me.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:32 (eight years ago) link

i get that the hype is annoying but it kinda bums me out that ppl are actively rooting for disappointment

*clutches chewbacca hoodie*

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:33 (eight years ago) link

Seems...unwise.

it's bizarre, it's like they're committed to extracting profit from their resources as voluminously as possible regardless of that level of extraction's sustainability or effects on the atmosphere

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:33 (eight years ago) link

I'm not campaigning for disappointment. I'm skeptical of my own attention span.

how's life, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:43 (eight years ago) link

I'm curious to see how much this makes. Guardians of the Galaxy and Jurassic World both were surprisingly (to me) record-book huge. Then again, this one doesn't have Chris Pratt in it.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link

I still love the whole Marvel thing but the way they're structuring their movies/shows makes sense because it's a reflection of how those stories were told in their original medium.

This could work well for Star Wars too given the Flash Gordon influence.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:48 (eight years ago) link

that was lucas' original idea i think-- his real original idea, not the 9-part campbellian saga he pretty quickly retconned it to. he expected a lot of spinoffs from different people: compare his relative distance from empire, as if when it began it were just another episode, to his micromanagement of jedi.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:55 (eight years ago) link

no, sorry, forget that about empire/jedi. the idea early on tho, mid-70s, was for an infinite serial; by 78 lucas was promising a twelve-movie series to be completed in 2001, which just meant "a lot of movies" i think.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 22:03 (eight years ago) link

then he "cut that number down to nine because the other three were tangential to the saga", uh-huh.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 22:05 (eight years ago) link

I distinctly remember Lucas babbling about eight more movies between Empire and Jedi.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 22:06 (eight years ago) link

babbling b/w 1980 and 1983 about those eight more movies, that is

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 22:06 (eight years ago) link

his heart and his best intentions still tell him that's true

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 22:09 (eight years ago) link

dlh, you're going to find that a lot of the dates we discuss depend on our point of view

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 22:11 (eight years ago) link

a certain point of view?

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 22:14 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoAPSBMQEKU

schwantz, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 22:18 (eight years ago) link

I think I'd uh like to remind you that Obi Wan Kenobi didn't have a degree in Jedi mind control

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 22:20 (eight years ago) link

http://f.cl.ly/items/3p2p0g3h1x2K3t0x3Y2a/IMG_3708.JPG

er, really? how is that??

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 22:26 (eight years ago) link

the reviews i've read thus far (just a few!) suggest that, plot-wise, the new one is a reshuffling of the 1977 film -- a crypto-remake

(see e.g. http://variety.com/2015/film/reviews/star-wars-review-the-force-awakens-1201661978/)

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 22:26 (eight years ago) link

c'mon amateurist, school me in 15/70 format and how that shows "40% more of the image"

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 22:33 (eight years ago) link

xp It's not at all. The elements are unmistakenly there, but like.. the death star feels like a minor detail in the film. And it never once felt like it was matching beats with ANH. They've got some of the same textures, but this felt like its own movie. I mean that honestly - I'd be the first to admit it if was a copy, partly because I thought that sounded like a pretty good idea. But it was never something I thought of while watching it, even having read about it earlier today.

Movie's pretty great and Daisy Ridley is GREAT and her and Boyega are basically super castings, bringing joy and humanity to every scene.

abcfsk, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 22:33 (eight years ago) link

i see that Daisy Ridley's only previous film is Scrawl; i assume not a biopic of the band.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 23:04 (eight years ago) link

Would watch.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 23:39 (eight years ago) link

why no star peace

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 17 December 2015 00:54 (eight years ago) link

Edelstein:

I find myself of two minds about this. Apart from the suspenseful last half hour of The Revenge of the Sith, the Star Wars prequels were truly terrible, marked by lifeless pageantry, tectonic-plate pacing, Jar Jar, effects-cluttered frames, and Medusa dialogue (i.e., it turned actors to stone). But Lucas was attempting something that would surpass Lawrence of Arabia. He wanted to tell the story of the fall of a democratic republic, beginning with the sabotage of trade routes, lingering on debates (and betrayals) in a government assembly, and ending with the corruption of an idealistic young man who would go on to become one of the most iconic villains in pop culture. He wanted to explore the peril of having too much passion, which could be exploited by a knowing demagogue, so that the story of Darth Vader became The Last Temptation of Anakin Skywalker. He wanted to do all this with light-saber battles and awesome sci-fi spectacle. Yes, he forgot how to tell a story. Yes, he forgot (or ignored) what the fans wanted. But in his clumsy way he was going for what had never been done instead of redoing something that had.

It’s too bad it has to be one way or the other. Can someone—as they'd say in Ghostbusters—merge the streams?

http://www.vulture.com/2015/12/review-star-wars-the-force-awakens.html#

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2015 02:09 (eight years ago) link

yes, as they'd say in Ghostbusters: "Hey, can someone merge the streams?"

Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 17 December 2015 02:17 (eight years ago) link

the prequel apologists are becoming rather absurd

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Thursday, 17 December 2015 02:21 (eight years ago) link

Is this only out in Australia so far? lol if so

glandular lansbury (sic), Thursday, 17 December 2015 02:34 (eight years ago) link

Been out here for three hours now

MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 December 2015 02:55 (eight years ago) link

only on the goddamn internet can a mostly shitty, decade-old movie that made almost a billion dollars be labeled "TRAGICALLY underrated"

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:08 (eight years ago) link

It's not a tedious mess, it's Verfremdungseffekt!

jmm, Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:10 (eight years ago) link

what's almost as absurd is people willing to call Empire, the best of the movies, "great."

It's a film starring MARK HAMILL.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:12 (eight years ago) link

There's a lot of truth in that tbh

MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:19 (eight years ago) link

what's almost as absurd is people willing to call Empire, the best of the movies, "great."

It's a film starring MARK HAMILL.

― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius),

yeah I know I say the same thing about movies starring Gary Cooper

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:33 (eight years ago) link

i've come around to the idea that Cooper is good at well-written comedy! eg Design for Living, Ball of Fire

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:37 (eight years ago) link

i saw Mark Hamill do a comedy on Broadway btw, which i'd completely forgotten about til this very minute!

http://www.ibdb.com/Production/View/4445

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:39 (eight years ago) link

omigod, Hamill was a replacement Mozart in the Broadway production of Amadeus

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:43 (eight years ago) link

only on the goddamn internet can a mostly shitty, decade-old movie that made almost a billion dollars be labeled "TRAGICALLY underrated"

― Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, December 16, 2015 9:08 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah it's true that actually finding this "tragic" is absurd, but it's possible for a film to be very successful and also underrated in certain circles.

i was just reading about how the intelligentsia looked down on fritz lang's films in the 1920s -- making a lot of the same complaints that a snob like jonathan rosenbaum (who i admire as a critic!) would later make about STAR WARS--i.e. that the subjects were puerile, the treatment hypercaffeinated, the whole thing unedifying, etc. (btw there's a lot of Lang in STAR WARS, I think -- and probably more NIBELUNGEN than i'd like to admit in the prequels.)

i posted above a link to a very thoughtful (a lengthy by blog standards) defense of the prequels by Roderick Heath.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 17 December 2015 04:48 (eight years ago) link

i got my issues w/ gary cooper too, but he is pretty great in MAN OF THE WEST

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 17 December 2015 04:48 (eight years ago) link

xpost

and i do have a fair amount of respect for the /ambitions/ of the prequels. it's all rather impressive if you consider it in the abstract. unfortunately, unlike Heath, i find that Lucas pretty consistently fails to capitalize on his best ideas, and the prequels are a riot of narrative and stylistic misjudgements.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 17 December 2015 04:52 (eight years ago) link

Well its mostly the "tragic" that i am harumphing at but tbrr imo none of the star wars films are great movies even as genre. They are well world built and innovative and considerate of core storytelling technique and historical saga and film history but the acting is generally terrible and the scripts are abhorrent. Viewed sans nostalgia they are mostly notable for ahead-of-their-time sfx and brilliant design... And the prequel trilogy doesnt even do those things well.

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 December 2015 06:28 (eight years ago) link

And i say this as a genx boba fett halloween mask wearer and as someone who loves scifi genre flicks when theyre done well.

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 December 2015 06:29 (eight years ago) link

wtf you guys'll be shitting on Randolph Scott next

bamcquern, Thursday, 17 December 2015 07:11 (eight years ago) link

Surely you mean Randolph Scat

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 December 2015 11:23 (eight years ago) link

let's not bring Cary Grant into it

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 December 2015 11:51 (eight years ago) link

pretty sure Randolph Scott brought him into him

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2015 11:53 (eight years ago) link

"The Empire’s accidental harming of Luke’s Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen can be directly compared to the casualties of President Obama’s drone campaign, whose body count terrorists capitalize upon for recruitment."

Collateral damage (poor jawas don't even merit a mention).

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 17 December 2015 12:51 (eight years ago) link

accidental

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2015 12:53 (eight years ago) link

It's ace. Plenty of massive goosebump moments and lots of fun. Main gripes would be a few too many fan service moments and I won't go into the other one because of spoilers.

Saw it in 2D and can't really see what 3D would have added to the experience.

groovypanda, Thursday, 17 December 2015 13:55 (eight years ago) link

Someone should start a spoilerific thread for the movie, maybe?

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 December 2015 14:06 (eight years ago) link

Star Wars 7 Spoilers Thread: This SPOIL bath is going to feel so good.

how's life, Thursday, 17 December 2015 14:13 (eight years ago) link

http://metro.co.uk/2015/12/16/star-wars-the-force-awakens-may-the-force-just-do-one-and-why-star-bores-need-to-just-grow-up-5569260/

Star Wars The Force Awakens: May The Force just do one – or why Star bores need to just grow up
Paul Connolly

I’ve had enough of this puerile Star Wars hysteria.

Grown men and women have actually been blubbing – over social media, natch – about the impending release of Star Wars: The Force Awakens.

Don’t believe me? ‘I basically saw my childhood culminate in front of me and I just wanted to cry at times,’ tweeted one chap of arrested development recently, in praise of the movie trailer.

And there was this, from a female: ‘Saw a Star Wars trailer for the first time on cable and no I’m not crying it’s just – OK, yeah, I’m crying.’

Oh, good grief, do give it a rest.

But it gets worse. Never one to keep his inner child on a leash, Star Trek’s star Simon Pegg last week called the much-criticised Star Wars prequels ‘infanticide’.

For a second I thought the fanboy’s fanboy had seen the light, had realised that his endless obsession with comic books, superheroes and the like should have been left in adolescence. I really thought he’d said ‘infantile’.

But no, he was comparing a few harmless films aimed at kids to the murder of a child.

Instead of showing signs of late-blossoming maturity, Pegg has regressed even further.

MORE: Here’s how you can see Star Wars: The Force Awakens for free and before anyone else

May The Force just do one...
May The Force just do one…
Let’s get something straight here. Star Wars is a movie franchise aimed at children. It’s not great art.

Hell, it’s barely even adequate art. It’s just a business enterprise aimed squarely at relieving children’s parents of their money. That’s it.

There are no hidden truths, no attempts at insight into what it is to be human. It’s just an action series with great CGI.

And that’s fine, really, it is. For kids anyway.

I enjoyed watching Star Wars when I was a child. My dad even bought me the soundtrack. But by the time I was 13 or 14, I’d moved on. I was growing up, so I wanted something to get my teeth into, something to make me think.

Star Wars didn’t make me think.

It was the same for Doctor Who. Loved it when I was ten; hugely embarrassed by it before I was 16.

If you’re still thrilled by Star Wars or Doctor Who (or even Harry Potter) by the time you’re out of your teens, you need to take a long, hard look at yourself.

This entertainment is for children. You’re an adult. It really is time to grow up.

StillAdvance, Thursday, 17 December 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link

please don't feed trolls

ciderpress, Thursday, 17 December 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link

Obvious click bait but his life must be one long, thrilling roller coaster ride.

groovypanda, Thursday, 17 December 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link

'natch'

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 17 December 2015 15:15 (eight years ago) link

This rud nua of posting the link and then the whole fucking article anyways, let alone sans comment, idk.

MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 December 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link

That guy is so pure. I really admire him.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 December 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link

Oh my god, those females with their crying.

I'm not even sure I really took the film in properly, I was just so relieved it wasn't shit.

trishyb, Thursday, 17 December 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link

I mean, the thing about the guy who wrote that article is that he really seems to have it all figured out. He seems so content and...I dunno, whole? Like a fully-actualized person, completely devoid of ego. He seems like he'd be fun to hang out with. In a totally adult way, of course.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 December 2015 15:48 (eight years ago) link

If you're ranting and raving about how other people's taste in entertainment is WRONG, maybe it's time to etc etc.

Enter nothing in the dialog and click 'OK' (Øystein), Thursday, 17 December 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link

to realize they're lost for good

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link

have we talked about the "empire are really the good guys and luke is a radicalized terrorist" theories yet? i read a few articles on the topic that i found provocative.

Mordy, Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:37 (eight years ago) link

So apparently Stefan and Jean-Ralphio provided the vocalizations for BB-8.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link

i'm confident i could predict 90% of the 'spoilers' for this product

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:46 (eight years ago) link

apparently the local imax theater at the science center is one of eighteen theaters showing the force awakens in 70mm

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:50 (eight years ago) link

the 70mm upscaling process (for stuff not shot in 70mm) can make action scenes look really wonky ime as a 70mm projectionist

adam, Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:08 (eight years ago) link

yeah, i don't see the point of it for sumthin shot digitally.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link

this wasn't shot digitally iirc

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link

shot on 35mm, yeah

circa1916, Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link

part of the film was shot in 70mm imax format

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link

yup!

and plenty of films shot in 35mm look ace projected in 70mm

that said, i don't know what the digital post was like on this one... if it was in 4k, i'm not sure 70mm would matter too much. however for a film of this expense i imagine they could have gone full fincher and done post in 6k

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link

still waiting on my copy of american cinematographer to find out the answers to these world-historical questions

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link

important film questions to be addressed

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:41 (eight years ago) link

Just hope jj is bringing the wipes...or is that the editor's domain?

kevin smith what a bro (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:53 (eight years ago) link

"Everybody better bring the wipes to the pants-shittingly good Star Wars 7." - Peter Travers

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:59 (eight years ago) link

"J.J. Abrams' rollercoaster wham dinger of a movie is guaranteed to melt your heart and soil your undies."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link

Presumably some sort of side effect of melty heart

MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 December 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link

read those last couple aloud in the car on the way back to work from lunch. "wham dinger" went over really well.

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 17 December 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link

"Daisy Ridley finds the bruised heart at the core of Rey."

nomar, Thursday, 17 December 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link

up to 11 dissenting critics on RT. (5%)

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link

Martin Shkreli yelled out a major spoiler as he was being arrested today and someone posted it on my FB today. im not even that hyped on the new Star Wars but it bummed me out. it was inevitable, though, since I probably won't be able to see it until 2016. i bet all the matinees are sold out for weeks.

flappy bird, Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link

Martin Shkreli yelled out a major spoiler as he was being arrested today

hahahahahaha

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link

@keithuhlich
You know what, artists? Don't give me what I want.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link

xp lol, what a troll. i bet i know what the spoiler was

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link

I agree with @keicthulhuch.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link

xp wait that didn't actually happen, right?

Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 17 December 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link

Yup. Not gonna link because the fucking headline is the spoiler.

flappy bird, Thursday, 17 December 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link

Four word review: sucks to be Shakey.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:06 (eight years ago) link

? I'm havin a great day

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:09 (eight years ago) link

i *am* seing a sequel tonight: The Look of Silence

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:12 (eight years ago) link

ahma watch a modern dance version of the nutcracker by charles burns and mark morris
i hope chewbacca shows up early

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:32 (eight years ago) link

Saw it. Felt it. Cried. Will scoff at self-important cynics. The end.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:49 (eight years ago) link

has it topped taking care of business as best jj abrams project?

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:52 (eight years ago) link

nice

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link

Disappointing

i;m thinking about thos Beans (Michael B), Friday, 18 December 2015 02:11 (eight years ago) link

3D didn't detract but didn't enhance to much either. There was 3D lens flare at one point. No post-credits sequence, in case you feel inclined to stick around through that stuff. Great movie.

how's life, Friday, 18 December 2015 03:22 (eight years ago) link

Saw it. Felt it. Cried. Will scoff at self-important cynics. The end.

― human and working on getting beer (longneck)

can you post in the form of a credits crawl

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 December 2015 03:27 (eight years ago) link

I am in the lobby waiting for my theater to be seated, drinking a Star Wars themes beer

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 18 December 2015 04:16 (eight years ago) link

I don't like you either

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 December 2015 04:17 (eight years ago) link

lost track of the number of death marks I have by now tbh

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 18 December 2015 04:26 (eight years ago) link

we cool mh

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 December 2015 04:59 (eight years ago) link

My favourite working film critic really liked it (though his Abrams love has baffled me before):

http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2015/12/star-wars-the-force-awakens.html

Fetty Wap Is Strong In Here (cryptosicko), Friday, 18 December 2015 05:19 (eight years ago) link

No post-credits sequence,

yes, THAT fucking pantswetting fairy bullshit started well after '77

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 December 2015 05:24 (eight years ago) link

.........
.......

.........
There's a pantswetting fairy?

darraghmac, Friday, 18 December 2015 05:26 (eight years ago) link

I've got some cash coming to me

darraghmac, Friday, 18 December 2015 05:26 (eight years ago) link

Next time, Alfred.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 18 December 2015 07:13 (eight years ago) link

What the "remix" reviews are missing, for me, is the overwhelming (in every sense of the world) sensation I got that this world had kept on existing just as it was since 1983, with the characters living on, messing their lives up, time passing just as in the real world, and only now did we somehow manage to find our way back to it, a return to neverland, more or less, tinged with the pathos of loss, of having grown up in the meantime, and yet it was there all along. We just didn't have access to it. It's a different kind of enchantment from the first trilogy precisely because it builds on that feeling of time and a world lost, but it does remember the importance of enchantment and captures it correctly.

Also, it's not just for old people like me - I saw it with my ten year old son and it was like he finally GOT Star Wars. Suddenly it wasn't merely a franchise of toys and games and old movies that his dad liked a lot a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. It became his world too, and this is his favorite movie in the world right now. It felt so good to be able to connect with him over this.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 18 December 2015 07:31 (eight years ago) link

facebook is rash with pride for kylo ren. put mishawaka on the map. biggest since lisa germano.

Sufjan Grafton, Friday, 18 December 2015 07:45 (eight years ago) link

Thankfully, most of the kids who are going to see this won't be familiar with Hannah Horvath.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 18 December 2015 07:56 (eight years ago) link

I wrote about in more detail in the spoilers thread, but IMO Kylo Ren is one of the weakest parts of the movie. Dude is simply not credible as a scary villain, once he takes his mask off. He shouldn't have taken it off at all.

Tuomas, Friday, 18 December 2015 08:01 (eight years ago) link

I think that is the allure, but yeah, spoilers thread

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 18 December 2015 08:02 (eight years ago) link

@max_read
i declare the new star wars Good

:o

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 December 2015 12:57 (eight years ago) link

better than the prequels, not as good as any of the original three. jj puts you back in that universe in a way 'phantom menace' etc never really did, but the absence of a coherent storyline is still annoying. it was more of a series of echoes and cover versions of original trilogy situations (strung together through improbable coincidence) in the service of setting up a new trilogy than its own independent thing. weight of circumstances and all that but still, it could have held together better. but it's not bad!

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 18 December 2015 13:58 (eight years ago) link

I agree with that. I didn't love it as much as others though I did enjoy large parts of it

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 18 December 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link

wow do i ever feel foolish now

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 18 December 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link

This is the third-best Star Wars film and the best thing JJ Abrams has done by a country fucking mile.

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Friday, 18 December 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link

is Oscar Isaac nude in this

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 December 2015 20:00 (eight years ago) link

was surprised when my wife informed me he's latino, I totally thought he was Jewish

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 December 2015 20:00 (eight years ago) link

Ha no way, I'd assumed that too but it seems p obvious in hindsight

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Friday, 18 December 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link

I totally thought he was Jewish

...after seeing him nude?

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 18 December 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link

i thought that too after seeing Inside Llewyn Davis, picked up on his latin nature in A Most Violent Year

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 18 December 2015 20:04 (eight years ago) link

Adam Driver is not Jewish either

Carrie Fisher, half

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 December 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link

oh cool are we doing that Adam SAndler song now

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 18 December 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link

Adam Driver looks like a neo-Sweathog

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 18 December 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link

Oscar Isaac's parents were Cuban; he's a Miami boy.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 December 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link

actually his mom's Guatemalan iirc

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 December 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link

Now that I've found this out I'm going to be mad if they kill him off in any of these movies.

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Friday, 18 December 2015 20:15 (eight years ago) link

My friend Paul is a creature actor and this morning he revealed on FB that he's in the film, has a scene with Ford and even has a name (Hassk Thug) and toy coming out, imagine sitting on that for two years!

MaresNest, Friday, 18 December 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link

that's pretty great.

if you google hassk thug you can see his toy and it's p hilarious looking

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link

My friend Melinda grew up with Greg Grunberg and his sister, so she's always hearing about stuff he's in.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Friday, 18 December 2015 22:28 (eight years ago) link

Here's one for the haters: http://deadspin.com/sean-doolittle-dragged-his-girlfriend-to-star-wars-1748680375

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Friday, 18 December 2015 22:52 (eight years ago) link

@#$@# got spoiled by a video review from Cinemassacre. it starts with "spoiler" warning text and then immediately one of the guys spoils something, like in the first 5 seconds of the video.

tried looking for a bootleg. a poorly filmed spanish language cam job has surfaced...

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 19 December 2015 00:03 (eight years ago) link

This was fun.

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Saturday, 19 December 2015 10:34 (eight years ago) link

There was 3D lens flare at one point

my head hurts thinking about the mechanics of this

carly rae jetson (thomp), Saturday, 19 December 2015 13:05 (eight years ago) link

White House, trolling

http://www.joemygod.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/swwh.gif

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 December 2015 13:23 (eight years ago) link

Anthony Lane, clumsy.

It is not for that reason, however, that I salute your courage in going to see “The Force Awakens.” Something more urgent than metaphysics is at issue, namely this: paying to watch a new “Star Wars” movie, in the wake of its predecessors—“The Phantom Menace,” “Attack of the Clones,” and “Revenge of the Sith”—is like returning to a restaurant that gave you severe food poisoning on your last three visits. So, be of good cheer. “The Force Awakens” will neither nourish nor sate, but it is palatable and fresh, and it won’t lay you low for days to come. Worshippers of the older films will have every right to feel cosseted and spoiled, as random exclamations—“Weapon fully charged in thirty seconds!”, “It’ll take a miracle to save us now!”, “Let’s hit that oscillator with everything we’ve got!”—echo through the cinema like the barks of excited dogs. Heretics and infidels, like myself, will be gratified to have avoided a more parlous fate. Please forgive us if we snort into our sodas when Han Solo remarks, “The Dark Side, the Jedi—it’s true. All of it.” Actually, Han, it’s not. It’s baloney. But it’s fun to behold, for now. And how long is it until the next chunk, a spin-off titled “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story,” crash-lands at a movie theatre near you? One year. The Force is with us forever, whether we like it or not.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 December 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link

he's gotten glibber by the year imo, that graf about the force is very bad.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 19 December 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link

and he acts like he isn't the 800000th person to opine that Guinness and Ford "save" the original.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 December 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link

I rewatched A New Hope yesterday. Force Awakens is better

polyphonic, Saturday, 19 December 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link

I watched it this morning directly before Force Awakens and nah

Number None, Saturday, 19 December 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link

^^^ Number None otm

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 19 December 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link

I thinkw e can all agree that Force Awakens, Empire, and New Hope are the three keepers of the 7 movies so far.

akm, Saturday, 19 December 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link

and Ewoks: Battle for Endor

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 December 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link

anyway, this was the most satisfying movie I've seen in quite a long time.

akm, Saturday, 19 December 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link

Hmmm. I still think the trench run from ANH is one of the most amazing chase sequences ever put to film. Top five easy, top three or two quite possibly. TFA didn't have that going for it but it's still a great movie

El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 December 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link

The trench fight in Hope didn't hold up to my memory of it at all

polyphonic, Saturday, 19 December 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link

the scene where it goes from cockpit to cockpit "red five standing by" "gold leader standing by" is my fav suspense-ratcheting scene of all time

ogmor, Saturday, 19 December 2015 20:15 (eight years ago) link

"seat-dampening delirium"
Anthony Lane reads ILX

El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 December 2015 20:25 (eight years ago) link

THEY CAME FROM BEHIND

El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 December 2015 20:25 (eight years ago) link

it's called STAR WARS btw

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 December 2015 20:30 (eight years ago) link

Saw it this morning, here is my review

:D

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 December 2015 21:01 (eight years ago) link

It's hard to compete with William Hootkins as one of the original pilots

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Sunday, 20 December 2015 02:59 (eight years ago) link

this was fine but not as great as i was hoping based on the reaction of others

k3vin k., Sunday, 20 December 2015 05:20 (eight years ago) link

It's hard to compete with William Hootkins as one of the original pilots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pi1PVw792M

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Sunday, 20 December 2015 14:29 (eight years ago) link

so $238 M weekend gross in N America est'd

seems low

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 December 2015 16:31 (eight years ago) link

gotta wait for the nerds to liquidate their kids' college funds so they can see it again

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 20 December 2015 17:06 (eight years ago) link

this was fine but not as great as i was hoping based on the reaction of others

also known as Fallout 4 syndrome iirc

cart and spork (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 December 2015 17:07 (eight years ago) link

wonder how many seats had to be disinfected for semen stains on opening night

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 20 December 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link

the scene where it goes from cockpit to cockpit "red five standing by" "gold leader standing by" is my fav suspense-ratcheting scene of all time

― ogmor, Saturday, December 19, 2015 3:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

truth

, Sunday, 20 December 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link

Lost Tyree lost Dutch... they came from behind...

, Sunday, 20 December 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link

saw this yesterday, had a lot of fun

daisy ridley is the best thing to happen to star wars since 1980

hand of jehuty and the blowfish (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 21 December 2015 13:01 (eight years ago) link

Did u forget Squid Head

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Monday, 21 December 2015 13:29 (eight years ago) link

Sorry: Tessek the Quarren

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Monday, 21 December 2015 13:29 (eight years ago) link

What the "remix" reviews are missing, for me, is the overwhelming (in every sense of the world) sensation I got that this world had kept on existing just as it was since 1983, with the characters living on, messing their lives up, time passing just as in the real world, and only now did we somehow manage to find our way back to it, a return to neverland, more or less, tinged with the pathos of loss, of having grown up in the meantime, and yet it was there all along. We just didn't have access to it. It's a different kind of enchantment from the first trilogy precisely because it builds on that feeling of time and a world lost, but it does remember the importance of enchantment and captures it correctly.

Great post.

ledge, Monday, 21 December 2015 23:08 (eight years ago) link

Feel the same way with Crystal Skull?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 December 2015 23:26 (eight years ago) link

I rewatched Crystal Skull over the Thanksgiving holiday and it was decent! It has more jokes related to historical setting than the other Indiana Jones films (atomic bomb test, Grease-style diner fight) and the end is more of an effects-laden send-off, but there are some really good set pieces when they're springing traps and navigating ruins.

John Hurt and Karen Allen are great, Shia LaBeouf a lot less so.

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 21 December 2015 23:34 (eight years ago) link

Pfff, Indy's just a guy, this is a whole world. [CENSORED} - still, that felt like some genuine, unfakeable emotion.

ledge, Monday, 21 December 2015 23:43 (eight years ago) link

Sorry for spoiler leakage.

ledge, Monday, 21 December 2015 23:45 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, come on, dude. There's a whole other thread.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 00:00 (eight years ago) link

Having trouble containing my excitement :(

ledge, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 00:02 (eight years ago) link

hehe

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWye0lkWoAAd_0x.jpg

polyphonic, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 00:21 (eight years ago) link

It's just fair; a Stormtrooper was on Fridays cover

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 00:43 (eight years ago) link

idgi

tobo73, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 02:34 (eight years ago) link

This is pretty great:

http://www.gq.com/story/oscar-isaac-guitar-star-wars-cover

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 03:51 (eight years ago) link

Having trouble containing my excitement :(

seek help

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 04:26 (eight years ago) link

Not all of us spend all day cumming on Virgin Spring VHS covers

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 04:29 (eight years ago) link

pfffft

u don't know me

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 04:32 (eight years ago) link

picturing Morbs swaggering in a north face puffa and skully now

glandular lansbury (sic), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 12:11 (eight years ago) link

Lol!

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link

Saw it last night and thought Force Awakens was wonderful. Went in a cautious skeptic, left a total convert. It is just *so well done, so charismatic, so adept at tapping into the magic of the originals without being beholden to them. I very much look forward to the subsequent movies in the series.

It's bizarre to me how invested some of ILX's in-house film critics are in dissing a film they have not seen and will not see (see also the Chi-raq thread), which is never ever AGL.

Now off to the spoilers thread to chat some more.

Are you fondeling the computer. (stevie), Wednesday, 23 December 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link

also, booming posts from longneck and veg in this thread

Are you fondeling the computer. (stevie), Wednesday, 23 December 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link

i know yr not talkin bout meeee, stevie, but i will see this at some point. preferably for free.

i dunno if youve heard, but this film is actually running for more than 3 days! what a world.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 December 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link

its really good Morbs! I hope you enjoy it!

Are you fondeling the computer. (stevie), Wednesday, 23 December 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link

Careful, this is the non-spoiler thread.

jmm, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link

Those posts are kinda spoilery. I'm going to delete them and c&p them to the spoilers thread.

how's life, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 17:50 (eight years ago) link

yes i am looking forward to going through that in a few days. keep it non-spoilery here plz!

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 23 December 2015 17:58 (eight years ago) link

Mentioned it already, but I do think Guardians of the Galaxy captured the Star Wars vibe maybe better, though perhaps because it is crossed with Indiana Jones.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 18:33 (eight years ago) link

I disagree, I think GotG was stealing from the best while trying to stay in a category unto itself. In retrospect the choice of a pop soundtrack was extremely wise.

I'm just hoping Daisy Ridley gets to have a better post-trilogy career than Mark Hamill did.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 22:17 (eight years ago) link

Haven't seen it, do want to, can imagine it being a better film even though TFA was basically everything I wanted it to be... but capturing the vibe better? Than a film that has the same characters, actors and story, look & feel, and co-writer? Xp

ledge, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 22:20 (eight years ago) link

'jupiter ascending' and 'the martian' each in their own way captured the 'star wars' vibe better than 'guardians of the galaxy' did imho but neither anywhere near as well as 'the force awakens'

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 23 December 2015 22:24 (eight years ago) link

jupiter ascending was horrendous and made me fall asleep

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link

you missed all the good parts

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 23 December 2015 22:41 (eight years ago) link

I got as far as the first action scene with Tatum "air skating"

Number None, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 22:48 (eight years ago) link

Guardians of the Galaxy is a better movie than The Force Awakens, but I wouldn't necessarily call it more star warsy... For one thing, the sort of pop cultural references and absurdist humour it's loaded with aren't really a Star Wars thing at all, SW is more po-faced. But I do admit that GotG was better capturing the sense of wonder in seeing weird-looking aliens, surreal cosmic environments and cool ships, which is a pretty essential part of space opera. TFA was pretty low-key in that department, at least compared to the original trilogy, which was full of that stuff.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 22:51 (eight years ago) link

I'd say GotG's most obvious influence is not Star Wars but Fifth Element, when it comes to humour and characterization. Also, they're both saturated with bright primary colours, whereas SW is a more subdued.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 22:56 (eight years ago) link

TFA was pretty low-key in that department, at least compared to the original trilogy, which was full of that stuff.

Hardly fair to compare one film with three.

ledge, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 23:00 (eight years ago) link

A New Hope has less of it than Force Awakens, arguably. Greedo, the Jawas, Chewie, a few shots of cantina folk ... that's about it.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 23:12 (eight years ago) link

And Jedi? Only Jabba's palace (a feast of weirdness, admittedly), and Ewoks.

ledge, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 23:16 (eight years ago) link

ACKBAR

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 23 December 2015 23:23 (eight years ago) link

but capturing the vibe better? Than a film that has the same characters, actors and story, look & feel, and co-writer?

I think so, yeah. Not in a bad way, really. I'm on the record liking the new one fine if thinking it was sort of low-stakes, but the vibe was a little too careful and proficient for me, like it was moving fast because it had to, not because the story/adventure/action was propelling it forward; I don't recall and of the OT having (what felt like) such a long lull in the middle as TFA. Guardians of the Galaxy (which I went into thinking would be terrible) I still say felt like a cross between Star Wars and Indiana Jones, more-so than something like Fifth Element, though I agree the pop-culture stuff and self-awareness gave it a bit of an advantage. I also felt Guardians had better emotional beats, too, but again, unfair advantage of surprise and freshness, etc..

As much as I wish I could recall just how it felt to see Star Wars in late 1977 when I was around three - amazingly it is my earliest memory - I can't, not quite (though I remember Empire and Jedi as a kid just fine). But I do have a couple of youngish kids, and both seemed to have a better time with Guardians than this one, too (while still liking both, more or less). But yeah, that may be because this one is sort of hampered by design to err on the side of drama and seriousness and mythology rather than silliness and world-building.

Being able to act definitely works in Ridley's favor, though to be fair, Hamill has done really well as a voice actor.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 23:24 (eight years ago) link

GotG was also pulling from Kirby's Cosmic Debris, whereas SW has far more Japanese mythic vibes.

Both are ultimately rooted in 20th-C pop sci-fi/space opera, but they seem slightly orthogonal

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Wednesday, 23 December 2015 23:53 (eight years ago) link

Does that mean they need braces?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 23:53 (eight years ago) link

Hamill was dope on Wing Commander 3

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 24 December 2015 00:45 (eight years ago) link

i'm amused you guys like the space raccoon movie yet trash Return of the Jedi for Ewok reasons.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 December 2015 05:12 (eight years ago) link

i like those Ewok movies

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 December 2015 07:04 (eight years ago) link

it's where Star Wars should have gone, more space fantasy, not that dumb bureaucratic senate stuff

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 December 2015 07:05 (eight years ago) link

i'm amused you guys like the space raccoon movie yet trash Return of the Jedi for Ewok reasons.

Who is trashing Return Of The Jedi for Ewok reasons ITT?

glandular lansbury (sic), Thursday, 24 December 2015 07:25 (eight years ago) link

The Ewoks aren't really that bad. Jedi is the weakest of the OG trilogy but still great. Just a bit of an anti climactic end due to the Stormtroopers being unusually pathetic even by their own standards

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 24 December 2015 09:41 (eight years ago) link

I've never understood the Ewok hate, of course a family friendly space movie should have some cute aliens! And Ewoks aren't even a particularly egregious or sugary example of that; remember that they try to eat the heroes in their introductory scene! Okay, them beating the Stormtroopers is a bit silly, but "old tech is better than new" is an essential trope in movies like this, the lightsabers work on the same principle.

Tuomas, Thursday, 24 December 2015 10:02 (eight years ago) link

And Mark Hamill's voice roles (Ozai, Joker, etc) and his recent reprisal of The Trickster (essentially a cross between Joker and The Riddler) in the new Flash have made me realize he's much better at playing scenery-chewing villains than straight-faced heroes. So I'm hoping for an Evil Luke twist in Episode VIII.

Tuomas, Thursday, 24 December 2015 10:07 (eight years ago) link

"in the live-action Flash series"

Tuomas, Thursday, 24 December 2015 10:09 (eight years ago) link

Whoa! I did not know that Hamill voiced Ozai.

how's life, Thursday, 24 December 2015 10:33 (eight years ago) link

Guardians of the Galaxy was nicely designed, but a lot of that bro comedy fell flat on its ass. Chris Pratt is so charmless. Kind've a weak film, for me.

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Thursday, 24 December 2015 18:21 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/bYzsCbd.jpg

, Thursday, 24 December 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link

Guardians of the Galaxy was nicely designed, but a lot of that bro comedy fell flat on its ass. Chris Pratt is so charmless. Kind've a weak film, for me.

― painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Thursday, December 24, 2015 1:21 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah I really have no desire to ever watch that movie again. And I really liked it.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 December 2015 19:44 (eight years ago) link

isn't that noodle vague on the left hanging out with harrison there.

ewok talk reminds me that i believe the first star wars film i ever saw was caravan of courage, i think for quite some time i didn't even know that ewoks were a star wars thing.

lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 24 December 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link

lol at guy doing the look at the hole thing with his left hand

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 24 December 2015 22:12 (eight years ago) link

Is that Sergio Mendes?

stupid children forever (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 24 December 2015 23:24 (eight years ago) link

btw, i saw this movie with two old high school friends while i was home for the holidays, maybe the only way I was gonna see it in theaters. coincidentally, we saw it on the day when i knew my ex was going to have our dog put down so that was in the back of my mind the whole time. when credits were rolling i left to call her and then we cried for awhile. that all said, i kinda barely remember it. two and a half stars?

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 24 December 2015 23:29 (eight years ago) link

"Is that Sergio Mendes?"

indeed! han solo built his recording studio.

scott seward, Friday, 25 December 2015 00:53 (eight years ago) link

Noodle Vague has been holding out on us

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 25 December 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link

i saw this tonight in 3d. it seemed about as good as the other modern day epic stuff like lord of rings and hunger games and stuff

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Sunday, 27 December 2015 02:25 (eight years ago) link

not really a fan of 3d in general but i've seen this in both 2d and 3d and didn't feel 3d added anything

k3vin k., Sunday, 27 December 2015 02:28 (eight years ago) link

I was considering it but I don't think they could really fly at u face

μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 27 December 2015 02:29 (eight years ago) link

i had two people sell me on going 3d, specifically not because of stuff jumping at you, but because of the 'depth' it added

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Sunday, 27 December 2015 02:33 (eight years ago) link

the spaceships looked cool but i think 2d would have been fine + no putting things on your face

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Sunday, 27 December 2015 02:34 (eight years ago) link

I have never seen anything in 2d that made me want to go back and see it in 3d.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 December 2015 14:24 (eight years ago) link

Star Wars title fading into the stars and massive text crawl both looked cool in 3d fwiw. Movie felt a little dark bc of the 3d tho

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 27 December 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link

Rey abseiling down into the star destroyer looked like a tiny doll in 3d.

ledge, Sunday, 27 December 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link

My best friend since grade school (we were 7 years old in 77 when we saw the first movie together at the Roseville 4) is on his way to pick me up for this. I think we're seeing it in 3D which wouldn't be my druthers but fuck it.

Watched rotj for the first time in decades this morning and was surprised that I now find the beginning of the movie boring compared to the stuff after they leave jabba's. The Jabba sequence felt oddly limp and I am a creature fiend so I should love it.

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 27 December 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link

Gonna go tomorrow, 38yrs after seeing the orig a few blocks east. Thence to the spoiler thread.

kevin smith what a bro (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 27 December 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link

It was v good
I have thoughts I hope to type later

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 27 December 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link

Really hoping stupidly named Snoke is actually about 2 inches tall

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Monday, 28 December 2015 02:53 (eight years ago) link

3D plus some (plenty) of beer and wine before the first viewing has given me a lovely woozy and fuzzy, already nostalgic idea of the whole thing. I enjoyed it a lot. But I will see it again soon in 2D and sober.

kraudive, Tuesday, 29 December 2015 00:07 (eight years ago) link

Saw it again today, this time in 2D. Confirmed my suspicion that springing for 3d the first time around was completely unnecessary.

how's life, Tuesday, 29 December 2015 00:10 (eight years ago) link

Some minor spoilers itt over the last couple of days. Come on, people. There are two threads!

For those who haven't seen it and are understandably avoiding the spoiler thread, I will happily say that most of the reservations I voiced itt were unfounded. It's derivative but not to an off-putting extent (and I went in expecting to be at least a little put off). And the extent to which it's derivative is offset by the newer cast, who do their level best to make this its own thing. I saw it with family members who claimed to have seen any previous Star Wars films or have any interest in Star Wars and they enjoyed it. So, y'know, recommended.

Look, just go see it, Shakey.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 13:35 (eight years ago) link

'claimed to have never seen any previous Star Wars films'

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 13:36 (eight years ago) link

when I get the band back together I'm just going to start every song by announcing a recent hit movie it wasn't used in

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link

lol at "Star Wars-themed music" being interpreted at "for the movie"

I mean, come on, they will have a dozen "music inspired by" collections or music used at their new Star Wars Land or w/e in the next few years

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 18:58 (eight years ago) link

Anyone have thoughts on the following viewing options:

(a) Standard 2D
(b) IMAX 3D
(c) Regular 3D, but in a cool-ass movie palace with huge screen

Would honestly prefer IMAX 2D but there is no such option near me.

― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, December 31, 2015 10:56 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

FTR I'm generally someone who doesn't like 3D, but I love IMAX and I would also love to be in a movie palace.

― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, December 31, 2015 10:56 AM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 31 December 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

(reposted from rong thread)

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 31 December 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

Option (d) would be wait til I can actually see it at the Franklin Institute in glorious 2D 70mm Imax, but that's 2 hrs away and so not gonna happen.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 31 December 2015 16:23 (eight years ago) link

I honestly didn't have a sense of 3-D adding much to the experience. See it on a big, nice screen and you should be good.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 31 December 2015 16:26 (eight years ago) link

Does the 3D detract? I'm not sure how nice the standard 2D screens are (also, if anyone is in NYC and can recommend a good 2D screen...)

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 31 December 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link

It detracts from your wallet.

ledge, Thursday, 31 December 2015 16:33 (eight years ago) link

seeing the battles on a tru IMAX screen (we only have a few in FL, one of which is conveniently located near my house) is awesome. that battle on Jakku was boner-inspiring

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 31 December 2015 16:52 (eight years ago) link

not sure your equipment is functioning properly if that's happening to you at star wars.

how's life, Thursday, 31 December 2015 17:10 (eight years ago) link

just wrapping up Special Edition ROTJ with my son, and hoo boy, it is clearly the worst of the Special Editions by a mile. So much badness added to the Jabba the Hutt sequences and the horrible, multi-planet ending, now I know why I haven't watched this since it came out.

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Thursday, 31 December 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link

The ending is poopshits

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 31 December 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link

Never watching the special editions of the OG trilogy is one of the best unimportant decisions I've ever made.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 31 December 2015 20:18 (eight years ago) link

there are a few annoying changes in Special Edition Star Wars (Jabba scene in particular), but it is mostly pretty good. The changes to Empire are pretty negligible. The changes to Jedi are off-the-chart bad.

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Thursday, 31 December 2015 20:20 (eight years ago) link

The change to the Emperor's hologram in Empire really throws me off bc it seems more subtle but I am too old school I miss that weird chimpanzee-faced witch version. The dialog was altered too.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 31 December 2015 20:26 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKtciRCVpFE

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 31 December 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link

Bring back Clive Revill's and the chimp eyes!

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 31 December 2015 23:49 (eight years ago) link

yeah the gf and i just watched 4-6 (the special editions) this past week and ROTJ is so much worse than i remember it being.

k3vin k., Friday, 1 January 2016 00:23 (eight years ago) link

I still have that special edition widescreen VHS box (non special editions obv) and it made me wish I had a functioning vcr.

nomar, Friday, 1 January 2016 00:28 (eight years ago) link

psst the despecialized versions are en la bahía del pirata

polyphonic, Friday, 1 January 2016 00:31 (eight years ago) link

eh the insertion of the new Sidious is the only change I approve. I think it works.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 January 2016 00:35 (eight years ago) link

It's the least glaring scene, at least

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 1 January 2016 17:09 (eight years ago) link

IMO the worst thing about the "special" edition is that their rewriting of history even extends to the soundtracks. A while ago I thought it'd be cool to listen "Jub Nub" (i.e. the Ewok celebration song from the end of RotJ that was replaced by some general orchestral music in the special edition), and guess what? You can't buy it. All the RotJ soundtrack CDs in print and the digital versions available don't have it, they just have the new soundtrack with the new ending tune. ("Lapti Nek", the disco tune in Jabba's palace is also replaced by "Jedi Rocks".) It's hard to find the extended soundtrack version of "Yub Nub" even on Youtube, the only version I could find was sped up so that Youtube's copyright robots won't delete it.

I ended up ordering an used 80s German CD of the RotJ soundtrack, and now I can listen to it in its full glory. But it's ridiculous that at this day and age, where pretty much every obscure 1980s nostalgia item is rereleased, I had to go through all this trouble. Since Disney now has the rights, why don't they reissue the original movies and original soundtracks? Surely they must realize there's a whole bunch of 30+ geeks who would love to own the version of the movie they saw as a kid?

Tuomas, Saturday, 2 January 2016 10:09 (eight years ago) link

The negs for the originals literally no longer exist; Lucas collaged them with various revisions, and the original pieces are in terrible shape. Disney would have to go through the same magpie process from multiple prints as the fan-made "despecialised" versions to bodge together masters.

(Also don't Fox still own the first movie?)

glandular lansbury (sic), Saturday, 2 January 2016 14:12 (eight years ago) link

googled: Fox not only have "episode 4" forever, they have the other five until 2020.

glandular lansbury (sic), Saturday, 2 January 2016 14:14 (eight years ago) link

luckily this wonder exists:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrOSuY12Rrs

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 January 2016 14:15 (eight years ago) link

So there's a fair guarantee Disney will release new HD "despecialized" editions in 2021. It's not as if they don't have the resources to do it or are ignorant of the demand.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 2 January 2016 16:12 (eight years ago) link

I just got a few packs of "Force Attax" cards for my kids and they feature characters from the original trilogy and Force Awakens but not the prequels lol

I have also just spent half an hour vainly searching for instructions on how to play. Kind of shocked that 1) I can't figure out a card game for kids and 2) that a Disney/Topps Star Wars merch gambit doesn't have either official instructions online anywhere nor forums/geek chat spelling it out

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 2 January 2016 22:33 (eight years ago) link

it's these, though I bought them at a corner shop - http://www.toppsdirect.com/star-wars-force-awakens-tarding-card-collection.html

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 2 January 2016 22:34 (eight years ago) link

xxxp So wait, does the poster in that Youtube video mean Luke was gatecrashing the equivalent of Jefferson Airplane at the Fillmore?

stupid children forever (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 2 January 2016 22:36 (eight years ago) link

i have to say these are p sweet too - http://www.toppsdirect.com/star-wars-journy-to-multipack.html

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 2 January 2016 22:36 (eight years ago) link

Does this help?

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/83089/star-wars-force-attax

The game is designed for two players. Each player must have 12 cards in their unit (deck), with the following deck building rules - at least 4 different character types, only 1 star foil, only 1 force master.

Players lay their cards (all 12) faced down, and flip a coin to see who goes first. First player pick the card to play with and the type of action (defense or attack). Second player responds with his own card of choice. Player with higher number wins the turn. There are 12 turns in the game. Played cards are discarded and the game continues with remaining cards, until all 12 are played (12 turns). Winner of the game is the player with the higher number of winning turns.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 2 January 2016 22:37 (eight years ago) link

Yes kinda! but there are also "strike force" cards, which I don't know what they do - affiliated to the Galactic Empire, Rebel Alliance, the, er, Ewoks, and unaffiliated ones with the new black TIE fighters on one side. I THINK you can collect a group of these in order to amplify the stats of your main cards somehow. I also see 'Power Boost' cards featuring Chewie and Captain Phasma, which will also boost stats. But how and when these are played I have no idea..

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 2 January 2016 23:11 (eight years ago) link

lol, linked from that page:

Dear Chums

Can a Strike Force, if held, be used multiple times to boost different Character Cards within a game, or just the once?

Also, am I right in presuming that these cards are counted separately from your main hand of 12 cards?

Yours confused
Ig

Posted Tue Nov 2, 2010 10:04 pm

no replies

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 2 January 2016 23:13 (eight years ago) link

Ok I got a big 'starter kit' w/binder and instrux and I'm not really any further towards getting it. I think it's just a poor game. On the other hand, and I think this is the point, the cards are awesome!! Plus there were these useless/rad A-4 sized inserts:

http://f.cl.ly/items/0W1B3D2d093S0H1s2H3l/IMG_3803.jpg

http://f.cl.ly/items/1o3s1p3X031P1g0l113z/IMG_3802.jpg

I don't recognize the stormtrooper in lower left though?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 3 January 2016 18:29 (eight years ago) link

lol there are 200-something possible cards in the set; the binder holds a maximum of 198

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 3 January 2016 18:33 (eight years ago) link

snowtrooper iirc

μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 3 January 2016 18:46 (eight years ago) link

his name is Steve

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 January 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link

MOD EDIT: SPOILERED

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 3 January 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link

dude spoilers

El Tomboto, Sunday, 3 January 2016 19:32 (eight years ago) link

Heh I wasn't thinking of it that way but uhhh yeah can someone move this post to other thread

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 3 January 2016 19:33 (eight years ago) link

there's a deleted scene featuring a chase with snowtroopers apparrently

Number None, Sunday, 3 January 2016 20:20 (eight years ago) link

@JesseThorn
I couldn't be more proud of my wife @TheresaThorn, who did not recognize the Millenium Falcon, and was confused and annoyed by the applause.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 January 2016 04:40 (eight years ago) link

What a dumb tweet.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Monday, 4 January 2016 12:05 (eight years ago) link

if you say so

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 January 2016 12:39 (eight years ago) link

How is dude named "Jesse Thorn" and he's not behind the counter at Zumiez?

http://www.keikari.com/english/wp-content/pictures/2013/06/Interview_with_Jesse_Thorn_at_Keikari_dot_com.jpg

how's life, Monday, 4 January 2016 13:07 (eight years ago) link

that dude gets clowned on the reg in the menswear thread (for obvious reasons)

adam, Monday, 4 January 2016 13:27 (eight years ago) link

You seventh graders really circle the wagons over this pitcher show, huh

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 January 2016 13:37 (eight years ago) link

(xps. that snowtrooper is actually a flametrooper, btw)

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Monday, 4 January 2016 14:22 (eight years ago) link

mea culpa

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 4 January 2016 17:06 (eight years ago) link

xp Thorn looks like a motherfucker with some dark secrets and annoying character traits.

stupid children forever (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 4 January 2016 19:09 (eight years ago) link

You seventh graders really circle the wagons over this pitcher show, huh

― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, January 4, 2016 5:37 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

(xps. that snowtrooper is actually a flametrooper, btw)

― painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Monday, January 4, 2016 6:22 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thought at first these were both morbs posts

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Monday, 4 January 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link

You seventh graders really circle the wagons over this pitcher show, huh

This is in response to three posts about Jesse Thorn, that do not mention Star Wars.

glandular lansbury (sic), Monday, 4 January 2016 21:51 (eight years ago) link

but they're inherently about the crimes against the Jedi perpetrated by Thorn and/or his missus, sic

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 January 2016 21:59 (eight years ago) link

The Millennium Falcon isn't a jedi

polyphonic, Monday, 4 January 2016 22:03 (eight years ago) link

i think i hear the recess bell, so i'm goin in.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 January 2016 22:04 (eight years ago) link

Morbz otm

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 19:34 (eight years ago) link

xp: can we start the noms list for best tracks of 2016 yet?

how's life, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 19:38 (eight years ago) link

http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-best-star-wars-books-are-the-x-wing-novels-fight-m-1745753570

since I've posted so many horrible guilty Star Wars confessions above I will admit to this here:
I read (well, re-read, but it's been over 15 years) this entire series between Christmas and January 1

...

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 19:43 (eight years ago) link

Are you planning to patent the device you used to stop time, or was it just like a one-off thing you utilized for this particular endeavor?

Beef Wets (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 19:46 (eight years ago) link

hah

I was briefly transported back to the days of the late 90s when reading a Star Wars book or five sounded like a good idea. They're quick reads, I swear.

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 19:50 (eight years ago) link

Morbz otm

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, January 5, 2016 7:34 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh good the two guys who haven't seen the new movie are bitching about it again, this will be worth reading

Less surprised by the total lack of surprises (stevie), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 19:55 (eight years ago) link

silly fools with your spaceships, we should be watching adult things like football, where a bunch of people run into each other for several hours chasing a ball. the pagentry of it all.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 20:01 (eight years ago) link

oh i'll be watching more Star Wars in the future than that fascist brain-damaging horseshit

i don't mind SW nearly as much as the fans, kinda like Springsteen ands Jesus.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 20:03 (eight years ago) link

*as i do the fans

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link

I try to never let the fans of things I enjoy get to me, no matter how hard they occasionally seem to be going out of their way to get to me.

Beef Wets (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 20:06 (eight years ago) link

"i don't mind SW nearly as much as the fans" actually works, though

Yeah, really deep SW fans seem to be filled with nothing but bile for the actual product.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 7 January 2016 10:16 (eight years ago) link

a star wars of the mind

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 January 2016 10:21 (eight years ago) link

Was just rewatching some clips of EpIV and marveling at how perfect the rhythm of the editing is in the death star attack sequence, it's like music.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 7 January 2016 15:32 (eight years ago) link

i need to see one of these Specialized Editions.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 January 2016 15:33 (eight years ago) link

is Harmy's any good?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 January 2016 15:34 (eight years ago) link

doooooh wrong thread

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 7 January 2016 15:36 (eight years ago) link

Harmy's is the one you're looking for

Number None, Thursday, 7 January 2016 16:35 (eight years ago) link

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/star-wars-han-solo-spinoff-actors-1201675519/

Sources tell Variety that after seeing thousands of actors, execs have cut the list down to about a dozen actors with Miles Teller, Ansel Elgort, Dave Franco, Jack Reynor, Scott Eastwood, Logan Lerman, “Brooklyn” star Emory Cohen and “Everybody Wants Some” actor Blake Jenner among the names making the cut.

Number None, Monday, 11 January 2016 20:51 (eight years ago) link

Nah. But then again I was hating on Adam Driver appearing in VII and he was very good.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 11 January 2016 20:57 (eight years ago) link

we should be watching adult things like football,

pay better attention

Οὖτις, Monday, 11 January 2016 21:01 (eight years ago) link

Get Οὖτ of this thread.

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 11 January 2016 21:06 (eight years ago) link

I am here to talk shit, per the thread title

Οὖτις, Monday, 11 January 2016 21:10 (eight years ago) link

he's got you there chewsh

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 January 2016 21:16 (eight years ago) link

talk shit about the movie, not the fact that there is a movie, imo

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 11 January 2016 21:16 (eight years ago) link

thread is a big tent

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 January 2016 21:17 (eight years ago) link

I'm not spending my hard-earned kopecks on this sorry

Οὖτις, Monday, 11 January 2016 21:19 (eight years ago) link

if only you were paid minimum wage for the amount of hours spent on this thread

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 11 January 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link

tbf, Οὖτις is losing his grip on 2nd place

Top Thread Posters (name, # of posts)

mh 246
Οὖτις (+smc) 204
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Alfred, Lord Sotosyn 201
Old Lunch 185

(and mh actually has 247 now)

of all the star wars "tales" they've proposed, the young han solo one sounds the worst idea.

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 11 January 2016 22:29 (eight years ago) link

yeah. It's got some talent behind the camera though at least

Number None, Monday, 11 January 2016 22:31 (eight years ago) link

Miles Teller would be a nauseating choice though.

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 11 January 2016 22:48 (eight years ago) link

Han Drum Solo has likely been said somewhere already

xp he's the least terrible actor on that list.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 January 2016 22:55 (eight years ago) link

With the directors of 21 Jump Street and the Lego movie at the helm not sure it matters.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 January 2016 22:58 (eight years ago) link

^ o rly? now that's three upcoming Star War movies I want to see :(

talk shit about the movie, not the fact that there is a movie, imo

when did this thread start, again?

glandular lansbury (sic), Monday, 11 January 2016 23:45 (eight years ago) link

wait the han solo one is about a ~young~ han solo? i thought it was gonna be a "what was han up to before the force awakens" movie

isn't he in his 20s/30s in a new hope? how much younger are they going here

jason waterfalls (gbx), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 01:38 (eight years ago) link

8

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 01:46 (eight years ago) link

The Young Han Solo Chronicles

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 08:45 (eight years ago) link

Yippeeeeee!!!

Reckless Recluse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 11:25 (eight years ago) link

crazy people

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 13:38 (eight years ago) link

"I swear I'll change, baby. Just take me back. No more Jar Jars, I promise."

Reckless Recluse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 13:38 (eight years ago) link

Ford was 35 or so when they shot SW

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 13:51 (eight years ago) link

Ansel Elgort
Jack Reynor
Logan Lerman
Blake Jenner

None of these names meant anything to me, after a skirt through IMDB they all seem pretty much diametrically opposed to Harrison Ford. Like, these all seem Zack Efron types. Maybe I'm being hastily judgemental here.
Scott Eastwood
Don't really know him either, except that I just watched Diablo; he was bad(meaningbad) in it.
Miles Teller
Actually quite like him, cannae really see him as Han Solo though.
Emory Cohen
He's good, again not convinced he'd fit the role.
Dave Franco
PLEASE GOD NO.

No idea who I would cast honestly, if that's the age bracket we're going for. Need someone reasonably scuzzy.

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 14:48 (eight years ago) link

Michael Angarano maybe. But no one seems to rate him as much as me.

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 14:51 (eight years ago) link

If I could just throw out a casting suggestion of my own real quick

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01864/fred-figglehorn_1864340c.jpg

Reckless Recluse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 14:54 (eight years ago) link

agree with the Big Trouble in LIttle China angle discussed here

https://twitter.com/jbouie/status/686618817515139072

a (waterface), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 14:57 (eight years ago) link

yeah if they have to make this film, a light, fun, portent-free adventure/heist/caper/scrape picture is pretty much the only way to do it. i mean the whole thing w his character arc in star wars is that anything set before that *can't* be him doing anything especially heroic or saving the galaxy from the sith or whatever. just like, some situation han solo gets into. dunno how much movie you can really get out of a guy starting an asshole and staying an asshole though. feels like they'll either screw star wars by making him a hero, or doing some dumb thing like he starts out with hopes and dreams but the events of the movie (likely to include death of love interest or her ending up w someone else) lead him to adopt his tough cynical demeanor (and in the last scene, the local smuggler bandit he's been battling says 'you got moxie, kid,' and hands him a certain familiar jacket....)....

really though, i feel like 'ant man' or sth like that is more likely to be the template in tone/feel than BTILC sadly. but let's not kid ourselves, this doesn't exactly promise to be a great star wars movie. thinking of RLM's observation near the end of the ROTS review that han solo not being ruined (''we never had to have THAT scene. you know the one.'') was one of the few things you could be glad about from the prequels.

Doctor Casino, important war pigeon (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 15:11 (eight years ago) link

I want to see a Han Solo film set between ESB and ROTJ.

Reckless Recluse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 15:14 (eight years ago) link

Han was in Nam. It's about the Nam years.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 15:16 (eight years ago) link

I'm guessing the Kessel Run will figure prominently. As will meeting Chewie and winning the Millennium Falcon from Lando. All squeezed into a two-day span.

jmm, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 15:17 (eight years ago) link

If it goes that way I will hate this world forever.

jamchiraquai (how's life), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 15:24 (eight years ago) link

Killer Mike as Han, El-P as Chewie

RUN THE KESSEL

Very selfish, and very ironic (DJP), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 15:25 (eight years ago) link

hell yes

a (waterface), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 15:33 (eight years ago) link

lol

how's life, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 15:36 (eight years ago) link

Emory Cohen
He's good, again not convinced he'd fit the role.

he'd fit the role all right

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 15:37 (eight years ago) link

Han was in Nam. It's about the Nam years.

http://thephilter.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Apocalypse-Now-Colonel-Lucas-8.jpg

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 15:52 (eight years ago) link

I want to see a Han Solo film set between ESB and ROTJ.

^^^

maybe a Bresson or Warhol type of thing

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 16:39 (eight years ago) link

30 minute static shot of frozen Han in a warehouse somewhere

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 16:40 (eight years ago) link

picturing more of a bounty hunter farce, as they get stoned and keep screwing up, losing the han slab, ohhh man jabba's gonna FREAK! careening through the kessel run recklessly, an uptight imperial commander constantly trying to catch up with them despite his own bungling assistants. ashton kutcher in a winking cameo as frozen-carbonite han, not revealed until the last scene: dude, where's my carbonite?!

Doctor Casino, important war pigeon (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link

Weekend at Han's

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link

Weekend At Jabba's

Reckless Recluse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 16:50 (eight years ago) link

xpost!!!

Reckless Recluse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 16:50 (eight years ago) link

that would be great - even less competent, cocksure smugglers hoping that by propping up carbonite han in badly-lit rooms they, too, can talk their way out of sticky situations, evade their creditors, and save the orphanage.

Doctor Casino, important war pigeon (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link

so basically the Blues Brothers.

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 17:25 (eight years ago) link

would watch, but only if our leads are actually the Max Rebo Band

Doctor Casino, important war pigeon (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 17:34 (eight years ago) link

The short story about the OG cantina band was a wacky caper IIRC, so not without precedent.

Reckless Recluse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 17:35 (eight years ago) link

han is a great character but i'm sure they're going to fuck this up completely

nomar, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 17:38 (eight years ago) link

Mostly because Han basically is Harrison Ford.

Reckless Recluse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 17:42 (eight years ago) link

hmmm, reminds me of the sad attempt to build up indy's kid as a possible successor in 'crystal skull.' wait that's it, they should get shia labeouf

Doctor Casino, important war pigeon (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 17:49 (eight years ago) link

In the same way that Indiana Jones wouldn't have been as successful or had the same resonance with Tom Selleck in the role, it's fair to say that Ford is largely responsible for the popularity of Han Solo. To the extent of being arguably the most irreplaceable member of the original cast (aside from maybe James Earl Jones's vo). So, yeah, a young Han Solo film feels a bit like a fool's errand.

Reckless Recluse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:10 (eight years ago) link

sounds like the surest thing since those 4 other guys who played Inspector Clouseau.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:15 (eight years ago) link

http://www.themoviescene.co.uk/reviews/_img/1227-3.jpg
"Han belongs in a museum!"

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:17 (eight years ago) link

It's weird to think that there was a time where Harrison Ford was just a working stiff actor doing bit parts in Coppola movies and not embodying this incredibly iconic characters.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:17 (eight years ago) link

It's weirder to think of some other great Harrison Ford roles that no one thinks of. Like "The Mosquito Coast" or "Witness." Or "Frantic."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:19 (eight years ago) link

he got an Oscar nod for Witness!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:26 (eight years ago) link

More importantly, he's good in it! And "Mosquito Coast," and "Frantic."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:30 (eight years ago) link

Witness was his breakout from the genre box; his other straight romantic dramas before it tanked.

Was the next one Working Girl? did Frantic succeed at the b.o.? i know Mosquito died.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:30 (eight years ago) link

Oooh, forgot about him in "Working Girl." I wish he had done more funny supporting character stuff.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link

i remember admiring Mosquito Coast while noting he'd been a li'l nicied up from the Theroux novel, and that River Phoernix was already a better actor. Never saw the Polanski.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:32 (eight years ago) link

He's good in the Frisco Kid IIRC.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:33 (eight years ago) link

He really fell apart after Working Girl (Fugitive excepted).

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:35 (eight years ago) link

I love Mosquito Coast. River Phoenix was the best in movies where he had troubled parents.

Reckless Recluse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:35 (eight years ago) link

or was gettin paid for a beej in the first scene.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:36 (eight years ago) link

Or that, yes.

Reckless Recluse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:37 (eight years ago) link

You put the gun down you stupid asshole, Paul, guns down!
*oscar nod*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdW1BlDtcyU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Rqx9TvtlM

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:44 (eight years ago) link

Wow, forgot about "The Fugitive." He's great in that.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link

i actually thought ford was good in the last indiana jones movie, it's everything around him that was terrible.

also K-19 is a super effective and kind of weird and totally depressing movie and spotty accent aside Ford is great.

nomar, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:47 (eight years ago) link

clear and present danger is great too! he's got that 'how dare you sir!' scene which is sort of the apex of latter day ford shouting at people moments. and the action scenes in it are A+.

nomar, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link

'what lies beneath' too...i like that one.

nomar, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link

oh man, I LOVED him in What Lies Beneath

Very selfish, and very ironic (DJP), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:50 (eight years ago) link

what lies beneath is woeful tho

Cuombas (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link

weird to think that it's a zemeckis joint

Cuombas (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link

"everything" in the last Indy was not "terrible." at its best the series is EXCELLENT CRAP.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link

"Should've mailed it to the Marx. Bros."
"Nazis, I hate these guys."

for me it's a classic big budget b-movie. so many great lines in it.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 19:12 (eight years ago) link

Indiana Jones: [of Indy's new lover] How did you know she was a Nazi?
Professor Henry Jones: She talks in her sleep.

i never got this joke tho

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 19:12 (eight years ago) link

raiders is a classic movie, temple of doom and last crusade are not at that level but are excellent in their own right. crystal skull might as well have been made by len wiseman.

nomar, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 19:15 (eight years ago) link

Crystal Skull's greatest strength was the foley work. It had the best punching sounds I've ever heard.

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 20:08 (eight years ago) link

i never got this joke tho

this exchange is how indy learns that alisom doody had previously been sleeping w/his dad

Less surprised by the total lack of surprises (stevie), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 20:29 (eight years ago) link

I think Adam meant that he didn't get it when younger

Crystal Skull's greatest strength was the foley work. It had the best punching sounds I've ever heard.

They used the finest side of aged kobe beef to get that sound.

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 20:41 (eight years ago) link

a backhanded compliment to Ford if I've ever heard one

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 20:44 (eight years ago) link

Adam is also making a joke about the non-existence of the Crystal Skull?

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 20:56 (eight years ago) link

lol oh yes i forgot about Crystal Skull. was that Snoke at the end of that? pretty cool of them to tease the new Star Wars villain that early.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 21:29 (eight years ago) link

Paul Dano is...Han Solo

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 22:19 (eight years ago) link

So this was better than I thought possible. Cool.

Saoirse birther (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 23:04 (eight years ago) link

Colin Trevorrow:

"We're going to make sure that that answer is deeply and profoundly satisfying," Trevorrow said. "Rey is a character that is important in this universe, not just in the context of The Force Awakens, but in the entire galaxy. She deserves it. We'll make sure that that answer is something that feels like it was something that happened a long time ago, far away, and we're just telling you what happened."

enjoy it while it lasts I guess

Number None, Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:28 (eight years ago) link

We're going to make sure that that answer is deeply and profoundly satisfying

drama circa 2016. hyped for the profundity!

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:31 (eight years ago) link

hyped for the ultimate motive of the first order being merely "chaos". the first disorder if you will.

nomar, Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:33 (eight years ago) link

It's all adding up. Lindelof will pen the final installment, Rey will be Space Jesus.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:36 (eight years ago) link

Can we just officially make 'Lindelof' a pejorative already? "I hate to say it, Phil, but you really Lindelofed the Jenkins account."

Professor Bworlph (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:43 (eight years ago) link

Lindelled off imo

Saoirse birther (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 January 2016 23:26 (eight years ago) link

And if you're older, wiser and just stand by and let someone Lindelof can we say you totally Cused out?

stupid children forever (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 16 January 2016 20:36 (eight years ago) link

Frantic has a solid twenty minutes, the rest is Saturday afternoon fare.

I still read complaints that Ford is shrill in The Mosquito Coast but it works for the character (and, yeah, River Phoenix is beautiful and scary-good).

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 January 2016 20:50 (eight years ago) link

love Mosquito Coast

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 17 January 2016 15:38 (eight years ago) link

Is it just me, or does Adam Driver look a lot like Harpo Marx?

uncondensed milky way (remy bean), Sunday, 17 January 2016 15:42 (eight years ago) link

I get more Chico with curly hair

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Sunday, 17 January 2016 19:37 (eight years ago) link

That made Kelly & Michael this morning. (I was at the dentist)

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 19:09 (eight years ago) link

I was disappointed they didn't follow up with the dog that looks like Harrison Ford

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 19:09 (eight years ago) link

cat does not look like a Marine to me

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 19:19 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.instagram.com/p/3IH_EhI1hI/

ulysses, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link

is it time to start the " " " " 8 shit talk thread

Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Monday, 15 February 2016 14:33 (eight years ago) link

Benicio Del Toro, Laura Dern and Kelly Marie Tran now onboard for XIII

Darin, Monday, 15 February 2016 20:13 (eight years ago) link

xp yes

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 February 2016 20:14 (eight years ago) link

amazing

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 15 February 2016 23:08 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

http://i.imgur.com/MHclyZh.jpg

calstars, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 22:19 (eight years ago) link

episode vii vs. iv shot by shot "echo" comp:
https://vimeo.com/160263943

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 25 March 2016 21:48 (eight years ago) link

I always wondered why a lone AT-AT would've been stuck out in the desert

Dominique, Friday, 25 March 2016 22:14 (eight years ago) link

I figured it was just global warming.

bulbs in the VU meters of God (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 25 March 2016 23:29 (eight years ago) link

https://www.outerplaces.com/images/user_upload/jakku%20junk%20walkers.jpg

I like this concept art showing decaying, still-standing AT-ATs on a waterlogged Jakku. Pity they didn't recreate this in the film.

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Saturday, 26 March 2016 10:51 (eight years ago) link

i finally saw this. was entertained a fair amount of the time, bored a fair amount of the time -- more of the latter after the halfway mark, at which point i started to get eager for it to end.

abrams isn't exactly a 'stylist' but i was surprised and impressed by how assured the editing and camerawork was. abrams has a way with action cutting, to my surprise, and he does good stuff with focus (selective focus, rack focus) and camera movement. nothing that reinvents the wheel, of course, but purposeful, precise, and handsome. most of the time.

as for the narrative, yeesh. i know that a million tons of virtual (and real) ink have been spilled about this by now, but it really did rehash so many of the narrative beats of the original film (and to a lesser extent of ESB and RotJ). to an astonishing degree, i'd say. in fact i think it'd be easier to name the major plot beats that /didn't/ strongly evoke, if not outright copy, the 1977 film. that meant there was very little surprise here. the many fan-service quips ("how about a ... trash compactor") were truly groan worthy, but not as dispiriting as the narrative recycling.

i guess for many folks this was just what the doctor ordered, though, huh.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2016 02:50 (eight years ago) link

some nice sound design at times, too. got the strong feeling of a ton of talented people working at top form on a story that was little better than ambitious fanfic.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2016 02:52 (eight years ago) link

somehow the way that abrams imitates the minutae of the original trilogy's visual style--down to using roughly the same lens lengths for certain types of shots--is impressive to me, in a "that's neat" kind of way, but the narrative recycling is just depressing.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2016 03:10 (eight years ago) link

in the spirit of jar-jar-free edits of the prequels, i'd kinda like to see a cut of this that purges all the really really on the nose jokey references like the trash compactor line. it would be pointless in that the entire thing is a recycle job and the thematic echoes are all over everything, but that was the stuff that really, really took me out of the movie. i enjoyed it overall but i feel like those things are only gonna wear worse on repeat viewings and i wonder how fondly i'll think of this film in future years. like will i mostly remember it as the exciting story with a couple of living breathing new characters that i like a lot, or as this hokey in-jokey fanfic thing?

in the theater i laughed aloud at the revelation of the new death planet, like okay, you're going all the way on this, my hat is off to you sirs. but mannnn would it be a better movie if it were not saddled with cutting away to the tension-free and no-character-stakes CGI bombing run with pilot guy plus schmoes. they actually don't need the death planet at all for the main story that's going on about our heroes, and it sort of screws up our sense of how powerful or well-developed this new villain organization is. the other worst element is the CGI supreme chancellor snoke, which i think we're all tolerating only because we assume it'll eventually turn out that it's a wizard-of-oz thing and he doesn't actually look like a CGI school graduating project for a Generic Monster Guy. if that turns out not to be the case the movie's gonna start to feel kinda thin and empty and video-game-ish.

and yet, i'm still weirdly tempted to go see it again while it's still clinging to a couple of theater time slots. huh.

never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Monday, 4 April 2016 04:32 (eight years ago) link

And with all that agreed, it looked and felt like star wars,which is enough

Ecomigrant gnomics (darraghmac), Monday, 4 April 2016 07:42 (eight years ago) link

Also it was funny and exciting and wore its updates well - the original story of Star Wars wasn't exactly a mould-breaker.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 4 April 2016 08:58 (eight years ago) link

congrats amateurist on successfully rehashing the most boring criticisms of this movie for our reading pleasure

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 April 2016 09:45 (eight years ago) link

xpost Yeah, how dare you not read all 948,123,109 prior posts about this movie. What the hell.

I am very inteligent and dicipline boy (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 April 2016 12:07 (eight years ago) link

Hahaha loony Frenchie dog

Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Monday, 4 April 2016 16:17 (eight years ago) link

congrats amateurist on successfully rehashing the most boring criticisms of this movie for our reading pleasure

― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, April 4, 2016 4:45 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sorry, man. yeah, i haven't read much about it before i saw it. i never pretended to have some amazingly original hot take. just my $0.02. would you like your money back?

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2016 20:14 (eight years ago) link

oh wait, you didn't pay anything for it. you didn't even have to read it. or comment on it.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2016 20:15 (eight years ago) link

We had a different "spoilers okay" thread for the movie, I think any plot-related discussion is better suited there:

Star Wars 7 Spoilers Thread: This SPOIL bath is going to feel so good.

Tuomas, Monday, 4 April 2016 20:16 (eight years ago) link

xpost

i dunno why i even come on ILX anymore, the typical routine is this:

1) i post a few things
2) someone either makes a pointlessly snarky response or just outright insults me in some fashion that has nothing to do with what's under discussion
3) i get a bad feeling, wonder why i bother, go off ILX for four or five days
4) after a while, get bored doing work, feel like chatting about something, post a few things
5) see #2, etc.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2016 20:21 (eight years ago) link

ILX just seems really toxic lately.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2016 20:22 (eight years ago) link

(and to clarify TH's post wasn't that bad, it's just a funny thing to see after not having posted for 18 hours or whatever. like, "geez, thanks.")

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2016 20:22 (eight years ago) link

'chatting' seems like an odd description of what just happened though - turn up on a thread, don't interact with it particularly (your last post was December 17, so you wouldn't have had to go very far forwards or back on your bookmark to reach Prime Hot Take), just dump "here's what I thought" without being curious as to whether anyone else might've already thought it..

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 4 April 2016 20:33 (eight years ago) link

sure, i didn't read through all 8,000 posts on this thread or however many there are. i also didn't pretend my observations were novel; indeed, i know that they've been made before. (precisely how many times i'm not sure, since i haven't been following all the discussion about this film too closely, mostly b/c i'm not a big Star Wars fan). just shared my thoughts.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2016 20:49 (eight years ago) link

yeah idgi really

Neanderthal, Monday, 4 April 2016 21:01 (eight years ago) link

sorry amst it's not even just this thread it's that these criticisms of ep vii are like the coin of the realm now, 'disappointingly recycles story beats from ep iv' might as well be engraved on the inside ring of the blu-ray at this point. i know you're a film teacher, and previous posts suggest you care enough about star wars to be upset at the absence of a definitive original version of ep iv so it's not too unreasonable to expect you'd have absorbed the usual critiques of the new one by now and be prepared to offer something new?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 April 2016 21:05 (eight years ago) link

i mean believe me or don't but i honestly was looking forward to what you'd have to say

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 April 2016 21:07 (eight years ago) link

Xpost Yeah, who cares what or when people post? More the merrier. Redundant is in the eye of the beholder. It's the internet. It's free.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 April 2016 21:08 (eight years ago) link

i'm not a star wars specialist! i'm mostly interested in the 'original' version of the 1977 film to teach its visual effects.

i did like some aspects of the new film's style, and pointed that out.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2016 21:11 (eight years ago) link

Forgot this movie came out, tbh. Does it have cultural traction, or straight to the dustbin? Not a bad film, but wonder if kids will be watching it every weekend in DVD. Did it have any quotable lines?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 April 2016 21:18 (eight years ago) link

everyone talked about the story being rehashed but i feel like this element wasn't remarked on enough, tho obv it was remarked on

somehow the way that abrams imitates the minutae of the original trilogy's visual style--down to using roughly the same lens lengths for certain types of shots--is impressive to me, in a "that's neat" kind of way

because it was deeply eerie imo, i'd never seen a movie before where almost every other shot i was invited to look at the structure of the shot itself or of an adjacent cut and go "oh, see, because" -- direct reference and repetition was in the movie's very mechanical bones, which on the one hand is impressive but on the other (or on the same?) felt uncanny and left me at a constant weird distance and i couldn't decide what if anything this said about me and/or the movie and/or fan culture in general

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Monday, 4 April 2016 21:24 (eight years ago) link

xpost are you kidding? half my wall is people quoting the new movie or Kylo Ren memes. it caught on

Neanderthal, Monday, 4 April 2016 21:27 (eight years ago) link

i know it's disingenuous to say "my kids didn't have a problem with the focal lengths" but, you know, my kids didn't have a problem with the focal lengths.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 April 2016 21:30 (eight years ago) link

as a film-style wonk i enjoyed the way that even the lens lengths were allusive! obviously abrams isn't doing this for the kids, but for (a) himself, (b) other filmmakers (i think the extent to which filmmakers are making stuff for their peers is underacknowledged) and (c) people who know the other star wars films forwards and backwards (which is a lot of people).

there's a scene where all the x-wing (?) fighters are racing to get to their planes, there's a fast tracking shot whose movement is counterpoint to the direction of most of the characters' movements and it uses a telephoto lens... i would swear (w/o having watched it in a few weeks) that this directly evokes a shot from the last act of the '77 "star wars."

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2016 21:35 (eight years ago) link

also i bet there's a lot of people who couldn't tell you the difference b/t a tracking shot and a steadicam shot, or a telephoto vs a fish-eye lens, but could tell you that one scene "looks like 'star wars'" and another sorta does not.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2016 21:37 (eight years ago) link

Xpost But isn't that Abrams' directorial m.o., though? Being an almost spot-on emulator of the stylistic tics of his own favorite filmmakers - or at least of 70s-80s Spielberg.
I rewatched VII at home last weekend and saw a lot of early Spielberg in the shots this time around (see the reactions outside Maz's castle after the weapon is put to use)

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 4 April 2016 21:37 (eight years ago) link

( that post is response to difficult listening's )

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 4 April 2016 21:39 (eight years ago) link

i like the idea of abrams as a chameleon. i haven't seen enough of his work to know! (the only of his movies i really liked was his mission:impossible installment.) but in any case being a stylistic chameleon is an impressive skill, if not a major one i guess.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2016 21:40 (eight years ago) link

I think he is doing it for the kids! If he isn't then he's one lucky sonovabitch, tumblr and actual (anecdotal) kids are nuts for it.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 4 April 2016 21:40 (eight years ago) link

fwiw, this guy was the DP:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0591053/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr15

lots of action films under his belt, including work with Oliver Stone and Tony Scott

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 4 April 2016 21:41 (eight years ago) link

xpost

i just meant he's probably thinking about tracer hand's kids when he discusses lenses w/ his DP

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2016 21:43 (eight years ago) link

Yeah - doesn't partic. bother me, either. I'm curious what Rian Johnson's going to be coming with visually.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 4 April 2016 21:43 (eight years ago) link

I wondered before seeing The Force Awakens if the shot composition would be similar to his Star Trek reboot, but it's really its own thing and much more indebted to the first SW film and Spielberg! I saw 10 Cloverfield Lane over the weekend and the theater played a clip of Super 8 beforehand and I was reminded again what a love story to Spielberg's work in the 80s that was.

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 4 April 2016 21:43 (eight years ago) link

i just meant he's probably thinking about tracer hand's kids when he discusses lenses w/ his DP

er, i mean probably NOT thinking...

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2016 21:44 (eight years ago) link

xpost

will be interesting to compare Super 8 to Jeff Nichols's Midnight Special which has a very 80s Spielberg look to it as well, at least going by the trailer

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2016 21:45 (eight years ago) link

interesting Rian Johnson is working with the guy who posted the film/digital juxtaposition video that was making the rounds a couple months back, a summary of which is here:
https://storify.com/tvaziri/steve-yedlin

I think it's an interesting meditation: does digital have a "look" or is it just an artifact of the process and processing done to the raw footage? I think a lot of people played to the strengths (and weaknesses) of the physical media of film, but there's an entire visual vocabulary that's inherited from the medium and not a conscious decision on the director's part.

Shots taken in digital, especially with immediate replayability and camera flexibility may be something that can be spotted, but if processing results in a film-like look when it comes to color and lighting, is there a real difference?

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 4 April 2016 21:49 (eight years ago) link

digital once (1990s?) had a look, now the tools you can use to manipulate the image are so advanced that you'd be hard-pressed to identify a single digital look.

as of just a few short years ago, even the highest-grade digital cameras had a hard time registering variances of light intensity in the same shot. i think that's much less true now, but aside from the qualities of film grain (which digital tools can only approximate), that's where you might locate the difference b/t digital and film. however, for all i know with the most advanced digital cameras even that's not true anymore.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2016 21:52 (eight years ago) link

Lucas embracing digital was seen as a degradation in visual style, but in my opinion the real sin was that he used it to cast off limitations that might have resulted in a tighter story. Instead of concentrating on composing a story with characters and fleshing out scenes, he had fully envisioned scenes that were visually busy completely unrelated to plot development

I think you could have an as-filmed Episode VII that would be missing backgrounds but would otherwise be a complete plot, but Episodes I - III ended up with a richly imagined world that had people doing nothing worthwhile in it

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 4 April 2016 21:55 (eight years ago) link

the correspondence between cinematographer Steve Yedlin and others in the link I posted is kind of telling -- people referring to film and digital as "real" versus "simulated" makes no sense to me because neither is real! They're captured images of real life, replayed. The fact you're viewing both on the same movie screen or computer monitor kind of makes the point moot.

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 4 April 2016 22:01 (eight years ago) link

fwiw lucas shot the first film in the prequel trilogy in 720p, i think. so it was a literal degradation, in a sense.

speaking of CGI, i think the humanoid characters in the new film still fell into the uncanny valley... i'd rather they just use puppets, or more of a mix of puppetry and CGI.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2016 22:01 (eight years ago) link

yes the CGI characters were the worst part of the movie other than the shameless rehashing

and to amateurist and anyone else who wants to comment on the rehashing: GO RIGHT AHEAD. the rehashing was lame as hell.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 April 2016 22:14 (eight years ago) link

something about the movements of the facial musculature in those CGI characters seems like it's in slow motion. muscles don't bend and twitch in an convincingly fleet way.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2016 22:22 (eight years ago) link

facial movements look to me like ripples in a pond, and figure movements often look like the characters are moving in a vat of molasses,. i think CGI still has a hard time replicating the /strain/ involved in muscle movement.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 4 April 2016 22:23 (eight years ago) link

i think the rehashing was mostly lame w/r/t the new death star but the rest of it didn't bother me much. i thought ridley and boyega were excellent enough to get past some of those issues, i guess. it's amazing how this has already infiltrated my 4 yr old's life, too, and i've only let him watch the trailers. which i don't necessarily think was happening as much with 4 yr olds around the time of phantom menace, maybe...

nomar, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 01:08 (eight years ago) link

Maz and Snoke were the weakest points of TFA's VFX work for me. I really wish they'd gone with puppets, even augmented with CGI. Digital characters obviously still very difficult to pull off.

It would be interesting to know which scenes in TPM were shot digitally. Had thought for years that it was shot entirely on film. I assumed the oddly muddy look of some scenes was a result of limitations in their compositing software, or a primitive digital intermediate.

Millsner, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 04:20 (eight years ago) link

prepare yourself

ONE SEQUENCE FROM THE PHANTOM MENACE — A NIGHTTIME SCENE IN WHICH QUI-GON TAKES A SAMPLE OF ANAKIN’S BLOOD — WAS SHOT IN DIGITAL, MAKING IT THE FIRST FILM OF THIS SCALE TO UTILIZE THE NEW FORMAT.

Number None, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 06:35 (eight years ago) link

Hm. Guess I'll stick with my first theory, then.

Millsner, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 11:07 (eight years ago) link

Xpost totally serious. I have kids and lots of friends with kids, and I haven't heard any of them talk about the movie since, not like they do the old films. If you're talking memes, yeah, I've seen a few, but don't know if that is a high bar. Will ask some parents and get back!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 11:12 (eight years ago) link

when I got home from work yesterday, two neighbor kids were running down the sidewalk waving lightsabers

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 13:50 (eight years ago) link

That really takes me back. It's heartening to see that the nomenclature for that perverted act hasn't changed since I was a kid.

I am very inteligent and dicipline boy (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 14:03 (eight years ago) link

oh, you

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 14:45 (eight years ago) link

If you're talking memes, yeah, I've seen a few

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 19:45 (eight years ago) link

Xpost totally serious. I have kids and lots of friends with kids, and I haven't heard any of them talk about the movie since, not like they do the old films.

^^^my experience as well

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link

also how has no one noted the irony of complaining about rehashing criticism of a film that is an explicit rehash, we're through the looking glass here people

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 19:59 (eight years ago) link

TBF, I hardly ever hear people talk as much about movies they've seen at all recently as they do about older movies.

I am very inteligent and dicipline boy (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 20:03 (eight years ago) link

also how has no one noted the irony of complaining about rehashing criticism of a film that is an explicit rehash, we're through the looking glass here people

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, April 5, 2016 2:59 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heh. actually, my superficial criticisms above were actually brilliant self-relexive meta-criticisms. yes. that's what they were. you guys buy that, right?

:)

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link

would've been more effective if you had just c+p'd previous criticisms into a highly readable but largely pointless post that only people with an oppressive nostalgia for the original posts would enjoy

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 20:08 (eight years ago) link

Worth remembering the films have only just become available to view at home, which is probably a better test of longevity.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 20:10 (eight years ago) link

the FILM.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 20:10 (eight years ago) link

I have no prob with amateurist dumping his thoughts even if they're mostly a rehash

tbh Οὖτις and I have posted one zillion times on these SW threads and I believe he has still seen the movie zero times

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 20:29 (eight years ago) link

I've cobbled together an understanding of the movie based on brief examinations of various toy and fast-food tie-in products

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 20:33 (eight years ago) link

well, I can't argue that

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 20:34 (eight years ago) link

you've cobbled together an understanding of the movie based on your posting in this thread

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 20:35 (eight years ago) link

guys that ridiculous BB-8 droid I got in a bundled deal apparently has a feature (just added today) where it will react to the movie if you play it in the room with your droid/phone

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 20:38 (eight years ago) link

http://www.engadget.com/2016/04/05/sphero-bb8-the-force-awakens/

this is totally useless but I'll probably do it once

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 20:39 (eight years ago) link

my 4yo niece is super into Star Wars cos the boys at school are all into it. she has seen part of Episode IV and a bunch of the CGI cartoons but hasn't seen any of the movies all the way through. she does own a lightsaber toy and Star Wars coloring books. her favorite character at first was Anakin but now it's Darth Vader.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 21:32 (eight years ago) link

where it will react to the movie if you play it in the room with your droid/phone

where do you think i got my incisive criticisms from?

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 21:37 (eight years ago) link

xpost

my friend's kid used to think that "star wars" was actually the name of the character who we know as "darth vader." so she'd be like, "daddy, star wars is being mean to that guy." or "star wars wears a scary helmet and breathes loudly."

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 21:38 (eight years ago) link

Xpost totally serious. I have kids and lots of friends with kids, and I haven't heard any of them talk about the movie since, not like they do the old films.

^^^my experience as well

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, April 5, 2016 3:58 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thanks for being the Morbs clone this thread was missing

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 03:43 (eight years ago) link

lol oops I meant to quote this...

also how has no one noted the irony of complaining about rehashing criticism of a film that is an explicit rehash, we're through the looking glass here people
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, April 5, 2016 2:59 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 03:43 (eight years ago) link

guys I need you to all shut up for the night because I'm going to have to start loading the hiddens tomorrow so I can answer all the questions. OK?

other people systems as applicable (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 03:49 (eight years ago) link

mod please lock until an expert can come back and cover the important opinions I mean fiction facts

other people systems as applicable (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 03:50 (eight years ago) link

kids like all the movies! kids were/are totally into queen amygdala and other stuff from the prequels!

i'm not sure what anyone on any side of this argument thinks they are proving. kids like all kinds of things.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 04:50 (eight years ago) link

like using magnifying glasses to crush ants and picking boogers.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 04:51 (eight years ago) link

I kind of wonder if I'll have similar responses when I finally watch it at home this week. Obviously seeing it the first time on opening night in a packed house almost in the center of the front row of the upper deck was fucking awesome but the next morning watching it at 9am in a small art house size joint around the corner of my office so I could make a bunch of my coworkers spoiler-proof I was a bit less drawn in. But that was going from audience reaction dialed up to 11 to like lol it's 9am what are we all doing here.

I doubt I'll ever notice the practical details to the extent you are able to but I'm kinda intrigued by Casino's "no in-jokes" cut idea, I wonder what that would feel like.

other people systems as applicable (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 13:39 (eight years ago) link

Kids do like everything, but there seems to be something different about this one. When I was a kid everyone played Star Wars. When the prequels came out, all the kids played nu-Star Wars; Darth Maul was the most popular costume and boys ran around playing Anakin, not Luke. But when I see/hear kids playing Star Wars lately, they're still playing Luke/Darth/Han, and by "they" I mean mostly boys. I've never seen a little girl, to the best of my recollection, dress up as Leah, let alone Rey; I wonder if making the latter the protagonist will have an impact come Halloween? I wonder if this is because Lucas, is his odd genius, aimed the prequels at children first and foremost, and that Abrams attempted to make a more "grown up" Star Wars, which obviously hit a lot of adults in the nostalgic sweet spot but may not have had more than incidental traction among the young set? (Unlike what Frozen did, or even Guardians of the Galaxy or the other Marvel movies seem to have done. Certainly Force Awakens did really well, but not exponentially better than, say, Jurassic World, I don't think.)

Or maybe it's that kids like "Star Wars" generally, in any form, and don't really make a distinction between films/generations/narrative? Maybe to them it's a brand in the truest sense, like Disney or Kellogg's. What flavor of Star Wars is your favorite, etc?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 14:14 (eight years ago) link

Abrams attempted to make a more "grown up" Star Wars

is that true though?

your last graf is closer to the truth imo - it's all Star Wars, it's all part of the same thing. kids don't make distinctions until they become snotty teenagers and start thinking they know everything. Darth Vader is an iconic villain, nobody will top that for a long time - of course they'll still talk about him. And shops continue to sell Luke and Yoda and Vader toys, brand-new, right next to the new characters. There's just masses more cumulative accretion of material from those movies than from the new ones. There is also just masses more mainstream entertainment alternatives filling every minute of every kid's day, from Candy Crush to Netflix, there's no way a single movie will have the kind of impact now that Star Wars did in 1977.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 14:24 (eight years ago) link

fwiw the "cool" Star Wars action figure series (the taller, more articulated ones) are releasing a Rey action figure.... this month. and it looks a little janky compared to their other ones.

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 14:28 (eight years ago) link

It's more "adult" in that it's actually interested in its villain as something other an obsidian slice of badass - which is not something the original films do until RotJ.

The last few posts seem to be coming from an alternate universe where there hasn't been a popular Star Wars TV show for most of the last 8 years.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 15:11 (eight years ago) link

thank you Phil <3

ftr i saw plenty of girls dress up as leia when I was growing up.

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 15:36 (eight years ago) link

the ahsoka tano action figure actually looks pretty badass

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 15:43 (eight years ago) link

We need a clone wars / rebels thread IMO

other people systems as applicable (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 15:50 (eight years ago) link

start it, you know there'll at least be the two of us

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 16:19 (eight years ago) link

Omg @ that crocheted bb8

kevin smith what a bro (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 16:43 (eight years ago) link

yeah, that's awesome

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 17:00 (eight years ago) link

Has any of you visited a Disney park in the last five months? The new SW figures are ubiquitous. My five-year-old niece knew their names before she'd seen the mvoie.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 17:29 (eight years ago) link

mine routinely call kylo ren "the new darth vader" rather than his actual name / i think i have relayed this u&k info prior but it bears on current discussion

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 17:44 (eight years ago) link

I saw a little girl dressed as Leia at Safeway the other day, just shopping with her mom like it was her normal daily outfit.

joygoat, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 20:24 (eight years ago) link

"When I was a kid everyone played Star Wars. When the prequels came out, all the kids played nu-Star Wars"

kids don't play anything anymore, they have no imagination

akm, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 20:42 (eight years ago) link

when i was a child

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 20:43 (eight years ago) link

start it, you know there'll at least be the two of us

― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, April 6, 2016 12:19 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

make that three.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 21:24 (eight years ago) link

also easy to forget: the newest movie came out last Christmas, there hasn't even been a Halloween yet.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 21:26 (eight years ago) link

When does that next movie come out?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 21:41 (eight years ago) link

We have a thread for that

Star Wars Anthology shit talk (Rogue One, Young Solo, TBD)

other people systems as applicable (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 22:46 (eight years ago) link

kids don't play anything anymore, they have no imagination

they just lay in bed drooling while staring at vines on their iphones IIRC

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 23:12 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Don't know if this has already been posted but fair fucking play

http://swanh.net

groovypanda, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 19:18 (seven years ago) link

wonglingwoo!

da vinci beaver testicles (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link

That's awesome

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 20:19 (seven years ago) link

Impressive.

ulysses, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link

tbh i thought Solo's death was cheaply staged and made kiddies bawl

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link

wow what a colossal waste of time that webpage is. must have taken ages.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 21:52 (seven years ago) link

Sent the guy an email, told him to make sure he checks with you next time he does anything to make sure you approve.

a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 01:07 (seven years ago) link

thanks for philsplaining

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:41 (seven years ago) link

I am loving that webpage.

it's getting ott in here / so take off all your clothes (stevie), Thursday, 26 May 2016 11:20 (seven years ago) link

Props for whoever did it for their hard work, but it's kinda boring.

Tuomas, Thursday, 26 May 2016 11:30 (seven years ago) link

I daresay the guy who did it will get some cool work as a result of it. I'm guessing Adam can't say the same for his contributions to ilx.

it's getting ott in here / so take off all your clothes (stevie), Thursday, 26 May 2016 11:33 (seven years ago) link

actually i've gotten some good work from ilx. some music videos. some songs. some cool stuff.

this is sort of cute, i will give it that, but visually dull. and i'm pretty sure competition for art & design work at Disney is tough and most portfolios would take a crap all over this.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link

this should be filed this under Baconing of Minimalism.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link

also tbh i feel like the standard for being above criticism on ILX has to be something higher than "the creator will probably get some good work from it." people get all kinds of work out of viral-ready mediocrity all the time. not everything that takes a long time to do is all that great.

bucyrus ohio, vus cun nus en l’aria (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link

I think the standard for criticism should be higher than "that took a lot of time." Smacks of "that guy had too much free time, right?"

schwantz, Thursday, 26 May 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link

Yeah okay, that's fair. I think I sort of inserted some words from my own reaction to the piece, which was that it was taking me an inordinately long time to consume and yet without producing any kind of joy or critical insight or anything so that I suddenly went "why am I still clicking forward in this?"

bucyrus ohio, vus cun nus en l’aria (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 26 May 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link

Yeah. Movie-converted-to-flowchart, while impressive, is not the most exciting medium.

schwantz, Thursday, 26 May 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link

baconing of minimalism?
http://i.imgur.com/ecGEKbY.png

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 26 May 2016 22:20 (seven years ago) link

I daresay the guy who did it will get some cool work as a result of it. I'm guessing Adam can't say the same for his contributions to ilx.

― it's getting ott in here / so take off all your clothes (stevie), Thursday, May 26, 2016 7:33 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

actually i've gotten some good work from ilx. some music videos. some songs. some cool stuff.

this is sort of cute, i will give it that, but visually dull. and i'm pretty sure competition for art & design work at Disney is tough and most portfolios would take a crap all over this.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, May 26, 2016 5:27 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

What mental process led you from "will probably get some work" to "will get hired by Disney?" Serious question, can you read?

a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Friday, 27 May 2016 01:56 (seven years ago) link

lol

I feel bad about reading Adam's posts in a monotone, lumbering voice but it sometimes pays off

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 27 May 2016 02:19 (seven years ago) link

I think the standard for criticism should be higher than "that took a lot of time." Smacks of "that guy had too much free time, right?"

well exactly

it's getting ott in here / so take off all your clothes (stevie), Friday, 27 May 2016 10:16 (seven years ago) link

How about this: it took someone a whole lot of time to produce something that's kinda neat but ultimately really boring, and which 99.99% of people will never finish beyond the first few scrolls.

Tuomas, Friday, 27 May 2016 11:13 (seven years ago) link

So it's like a self-published ebook that you give away for free!

El Tomboto, Friday, 27 May 2016 11:16 (seven years ago) link

If someone can get some animated-SVG AT-ATs going at some point I'd take that.

nashwan, Friday, 27 May 2016 13:37 (seven years ago) link

Tuomas just described most ilx threads

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 27 May 2016 14:27 (seven years ago) link

tuomas just described my phd thesis

he described the OPPOSITE of my college noise band "greatest hits" collection, though

El Tomboto, Friday, 27 May 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link

i'm going to make one of these infographics that, as it scrolls, tells the story of my penis

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 27 May 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link

ctrl++

Serious question, can you read?

serious question, have i insulted you personally on one of these threads? i feel like you are following me around bullying me. you seem weirdly invested in calling me an idiot at every opportunity.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 27 May 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/8NWtZYR.jpg

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 27 May 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link

yo AB, throw "CHEWBACON" on that and you've got yourself something that might go viral even faster than dude's laborious scrolling star wars graphic

bucyrus ohio, vus cun nus en l’aria (Doctor Casino), Friday, 27 May 2016 21:44 (seven years ago) link

I might like the infographic concept more if it were applied to a different movie. Star Wars is so trampled at this point that things like this stop being impressive.

jmm, Friday, 27 May 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link

or like... across the top it could say "CHEWBACON SAYS..." and across the bottom it could say "LET THE BACON WIN." i dunno just spitballing here, don't spend too much time on it.

bucyrus ohio, vus cun nus en l’aria (Doctor Casino), Friday, 27 May 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link

yeah, that's fair jmm. i mean it'd be cool if you really felt like it was being used analytically to reveal something about the movie's structure or pacing or density of dialogue versus silence or something like that. like the author realized woah there's this crazy thing going on in movie X and this was the best way they found to depict that. instead it's just fanart for the illustrator cartoonoid generation.

bucyrus ohio, vus cun nus en l’aria (Doctor Casino), Friday, 27 May 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link

I'm not interested unless we can get a shitty mashup tshirt design out of this

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Saturday, 28 May 2016 03:03 (seven years ago) link

closed the chewbacon tab immediately, as if it contained The Entertainment

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 28 May 2016 06:59 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

There's totally a reference to Arrested Development in the scene with the Rathtars. "This was a mistake!" "Huge!"

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 03:00 (seven years ago) link

"This bounty hunter is my kind of scum - fearless and inventive."

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o34/scandi14/arrested%20development/ice-gets-tobias_sm.jpg

nashwan, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 10:42 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

i rewatched this tonight at home with my kids who hadn’t seen it since it came out in the cinema i.e. many lifetimes ago. they both remembered and dreaded the scene where han dies.

at one point my younger son (8) goes “why are they called the first order now?” and in reply his brother (10) says matter-of-factly “they changed the name when disney bought it”.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 7 December 2019 22:18 (four years ago) link

otm

"Big Joe Fuck and the Bogalusa Maniac" (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 7 December 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link

just the sheer ballsiness of this one almost makes me want to get it
https://www.uniqlo.com/us/en/star-wars-forever-ut-masumi-ishikawa-short-sleeve-graphic-t-shirt-426815.html

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 9 December 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link

I would wear that, fuck the haters.

yeah that’s kinda great tbh

a synthesis of Trotskyism and Ufology (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 9 December 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link

i don't like being "meta" in my clothing, so i'm passing but i would certainly appreciate it if i saw it out and about

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 9 December 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

oh well i noticed this was up for sale just now too as part of their new drop:
https://www.uniqlo.com/us/en/peanuts-yu-nagaba-cushion-online-exclusive-422451COL00SIZ999000.html
reader, i got both. i am a consumer lump.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 9 December 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

It just occurred to me that I can no longer remember anything about the plot of this movie. I remember a few moments in it -- Rei walking on walls or something, a basement scene with a diminutive creature and some kind of magical memory awakening, images of middle-aged leia and han, Adam Driver yelling, John Boyega breathing a lot, Oscar Isaac maybe crashed? Or was that John Boyega?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:22 (three years ago) link

awkward co-parenting scenes with Han and Leia

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:23 (three years ago) link

I'll give you a hint about the plot: it was exactly the same as A New Hope

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:23 (three years ago) link

Oscar Isaac and John Boyega stole a tie fighter, which was the best part of the movie imo

That and the magic bread-puff

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link

this movies biggest/only legacy in my household is the line "ONE QUARTER PORTION""

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:46 (three years ago) link

Magic bread puff was actually a practical effect I think! They inflated it from below.

Kim, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:56 (three years ago) link


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