AMC - Halt and Catch Fire

Anyone catch it? Enjoyed it.

I watched the pilot last night. This show is kinda fun. The people who revolutionized modern computing were very attractive and did not look at all like trolls, obviously.

Are there back issues of Byte Magazine in Google's magazine archive? I used to enjoy reading that when I was a lad.

Once I accepted that the show has to be packed with DRAMA and scene chewing since the setting involves lots of silent intent staring at machines, I am into it. Also, 'Complicated Game' and Bad Brains.

If anyone's curious this is essentially the story of the Compaq Portable, except that that was started fresh by people sick of TI. So no barging into another company and pushing everyone to the brink of destruction. Also much borrowing from The Soul of a New Machine, including the Colossal Cave Adventure references and the engineering pressure.

The three main characters I'm still in varying stages of appreciation and hatred for - I dig the Richard Dreyfussesque engineer who seems recognizably human and will most definitely have his gorgeous wife walk out on him, but Cameron and the prince of darkness I have a hard time suspending disbelief for. I'm liking where it's going but I don't want it to end up in True Blood-style telenovela insanity, if you know what I mean. (Hiring an entire team of engineers and firing them all next week?)

Part of the attraction I'm sure is that the show is a trip through memory lane for me, since I lived through the cybernetic utopia dream of the seventies and the craziness of the PC revolution of the eighties. I'm still not exactly sure when the show is set, somewhere between 1982 and 86?

Not exactly the Portable - Compaq is already mentioned as an industry player in the show, and the Portable didn't have an LCD

earlier, if i had to pinpoint it i'd guess 82. i'm enjoying it though i couldn't recommend it to anyone. kerry bishe is very very very pretty. i could imagine it becoming a good show though i don't know if it's gonna get enough time. it's an interesting story that hasn't been told, plus i'm a sucker for dramas about work, esp dramas about engineers at work, and i like period dramas. rmde at 80s draper though.

also after decades of trying to 'get' xtc this show sold me

the "look we know geek culture" signifiers are a bit much, but the overall arc is fun

What references were egregious to you? Just curious

I couldn't take it anymore somewhere in the middle of episode 4. I lived through this era too and can't help the natural bias and nick picking, but I severely disliked Lee Pace's character so much that I found myself fast-fowarding through most of the episodes. Spent a lot of time waiting for something to happen. Annoying because I could get into a 1982 corporate tech drama.

I loved Bujalski's Computer Chess - wish this could be as stylized.

What references were egregious to you? Just curious

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well it really jumped out at me with actually listing what all the different codes were in Adventure, and generally overexplaining it. But there was some earlier stuff too. Hitting us over the head with ada lovelace for one.

the management guy with the timecharts was pretty good tho.

I severely disliked Lee Pace's character so much that I found myself fast-fowarding through most of the episodes

I haven't seen the latest one, so who knows if he's gone full on American Psycho nail gun on us already, but I know what you mean. My guess is that he's a riff on the CEOs-if-successful-are-usually-sociopaths idea of today. More specifically he's modeled after people like Jobs or Ballmer - in public inspirational, in private a screaming holy terror. Even so yeah he's totally off-putting

actually listing what all the different codes were in Adventure

I hear you. I kinda accepted this since hey, at least that cheat-code stuff is somewhat relatable for the audience - what really cracks me up is when there's a comically compressed blurt of technoverbiage to overwhelm and intimidate. I know it's not a documentary and has no responsibility to explain anything, but I love how there's a conflict between needing to teach the audience about the tech work being done, and at same time reinforcing for them how impossible to understand it is

Buddy just pointed out this is Austin 81 so totally accurate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-m_xtblwI0

so there was stuff like 80s draper and his dad and even though i loved it i thought the turn w/ 'o no suitcases packed - but wait!' was maybe too cute but still i loved this episode. it wasn't 'shut the door, have a seat' but i'm now definitely hoping this show gets renewed and annoyed that it's getting ignored.

I think it's getting ignored because most people watched a couple of episodes and decided it was a pile of shit. It gets better?

This is much more interesting than it has any right to be, given the cast of two-dimensional characters (except maybe the wife).

yeah it wasn't amazing or anything but i've found myself looking forward to another season

good season so far but i bet nobody cares

is this actually markedly different/better than the first season like some critics are saying or wut? bc i would be down if it is. like I dig lee pace but he was not meant to play faux-enigmatic alpha or would-be-alpha males.

totally different so far -- pace is completely sidelined, nearly everything is rotated in terms of what characters are up to, and how they're dealing.

hmm. i will give it a try! i'm getting the impression i don't /really/ need to watch s1 to jump in - is that the case?

yeah you sort of won't know who everyone is but that's ok you'll pick up from context.

i wouldn't say it's taken some huge jump in quality that it makes any sense to watch s2 without s1.

yeah but its a different and potentially more interesting story, and either way its easy to pick up if you'd just prefer not to watch the whole first season for whatever reason.

started season 1, scene where the dude's shirt gets ripped in the parking lot fight showing his childhood scars and prompting him to immediately launch into his traumatic origins story and prepared nerd manifesto was pretty lol.

enjoying it overall though. it needs to throw in a little humour here and there, it can get pretty stuffy/self-serious.

this last episode was the closest it's been to genuinely compelling in a while

I'm a couple of episodes behind but I don't like the introduction of the coke addiction at all.

The two female leads are distractingly pretty.

when it happened i was like "well it's a period piece about the 80s, i'm amazed it took this long to have a plot about cocaine"

joe is gonna become john mcafee right?

idk if literally but when i realized what his turn meant i did smile. it would not be hard to imagine him setting up a jonestown though.

I can't believe this is in its third season

2 hour premiere tomorrow night

is this any good

I like it. It can be a bit silly though. First season was a bit too much "Mad Men in 80s silicon valley" at times but was still enjoyable especially if you like the setting/era. Second season was better.

it isn't perfect but it's very good, dan otm about s2 being better

Despite what some dude said up thread I skipped S1 completely and enjoyed S2 quite a bit.

tuesday night's episode, goddamn was it good.

That was one of the more intense things I've watched in the last while! Impressive for a show without a body count.

Seriously. Amazing that there's all this fascinating behind the scenes machinations involving Joe and Gordon and yet two women arguing about the direction of their company and their relationship makes for such intense tv.

this show is just enormously good and it's really too bad that abt a dozen people watch it

It started off pretty slow; I think a lot of people must have dropped out when things were still putting along midway through the first season. Now it is really cooking!

the first season was a bit of a drag until the last few episodes, not helped by the focus on joe's don draper-lite man-with-a-past stuff which was pretty cookie-cutter

second season was so much better - the characters really do get fleshed out nicely and the ebb and flow of the tensions between the four leads is great

i need to get around to getting up to speed with s3 asap, i totally missed it had even started up again...

i LOVE THIS SHOW!!!!

i love this show too but i did lol when they did the flash-forward in s3 and then slowly panned in on a computer screen to show the MICROSOFT OFFICE COPYRIGHT 1990 for a long time to say YES THIS IS A FLASH FORWARD IT'S 1990 NOW HEY HEY PAY ATTENTION

it's nice to watch a tv show about people who are all somewhat intelligent and competent and at least trying to be good people

yeah this show is a delight, and I like that there's no villain, really. (except maybe Shaggy from Scooby Doo but that's kinda silly).

Show has been wildly inconsistent with Joe McMillan, though. I get that they cut him down a peg but he goes from arrogant and scheming to permanently walking with his head hanging down, continuing to sulk years after the fact. That kind of massive personality shift just doesn't happen in real life. Every other character is fundamentally the same, even as situations change their goals and values, but they seem to rewrite the lead guy from scratch every season/half season.

god i love toby huss

he doesn't seem to do much dramatic work but he's so good and affecting in this

bump

watched 1.5 seasons so far and i am here to say that toby huss is the greatest

s2 def better with less focus on Admiral Eyebrows, character driven story def serves them better

Gordo is nuts, Donna is great but nuts, Cameron is nuts

MY PEOPLE

we're gonna try this, thanks ILX

Didn't even know there was a thread for this! My favourite show about people who are terrible and slowly learn to be less terrible.

(just like the show itself amirite)

I do enjoy what a cipher Joe is as a person. I know it gets bandied about a lot these days but his sociopathy feels very complete & deliberate as a character choice. The only time he’s anything close to being “himself” is when he’s getting over on someone in a sale or a pitch.
Pace does a really good job of making him a really weird unknowable guy.

And McNairy is so good at being the unhinged guy trying not to be completely unhinged. Gordo is just a bucketful of crazy crammed into a suit 24/7, like you can see the squirming twitchiness in his eyes constantly even when he’s not being outwardly bonkers. That’s hard to pull off acting-wise

otm about McNairy. I happened to see him smoking a cigarette outside a coffee shop in Austin a few months ago and it took me a few minutes to realize who it was because he was so relaxed and his body language wasn't so twitchy and high strung.

to the show's credit, the more it goes on the less they are caricatures. Even Joe makes sense as a real person eventually.

Cameron so far is the only character who still feels underbaked somehow. I get the 20’s thing where everything is a reaction or a statement & she’s still in the edges of idealism but it makes her so one-note, or two note, i guess. REACT!! RESIST!! PANIC ATTACK!! repeat
Maybe that’s the point, that she’s so much younger than the other characters

I was going to start a new H&CF watchers club thread but this one is pretty spoiler-free and short!

John might be the character that surprised me the most -- starts out seeming like this good ol' boy and you're waiting for him to do something that throws a monkey wrench in the works, but he just keeps being sympathetic

hoping it doesn't take forever for season 4 to hit netflix. probably be a while though.

now i'm wondering if there is some ps4 thing i can buy though...

Hope to make some S3 headway this weekend

nobody expected me to be that useful at work so I watched 2.5 episodes while poking around on a project at work, tell no one

this seems kind of h&cf-ish since I’m totally on that kind of project

how did I not know Toby Huss is a fellow Iowa boy?!?

so great, love his king of the hill work

I was loving this until halfway through season 2. That any of the protagonists would seriously contemplate going back into business with the sociopath was too much disbelief to suspend.

his season one characterization was an incredible misstep in the show and retooling him was the best thing they did, but I feel that

another thing I will say here (trying to avoid reading spoilers while posting) is that whoever chose Cameron's music selections knew what was up with early-80's Texas punk rock (Big Boys!), Bobby Soxx "Learn To Hate In The 80's" was especially inspired.

Really Red as well.

Amazing music supervision and not just deep knowledge of Texas punk. Tiny meaningless spoiler but when Joe goes to the Stark Club they nailed the music.

yeah the music supervision stays good through the rest of the show

watching the final season a couple days after attending a funeral for a relative was emotionally wearying

his season one characterization was an incredible misstep in the show and retooling him was the best thing they did

Maybe the thing for the viewer to do is pretend it's a different character entirely. After season one, Pyro Joe died on the way back to his home planet, please welcome Believable Joe?

for some reason that i have not analyzed it gives me great pleasure to see the look on someone's face when they GET AN IDEA on this show. it happens about 5 times an episode. hey, that picture of a hacker on the magazine cover....THAT GIVES ME AN IDEA.

i just really love it.

i'm watching the whole first 3 seasons again with maria. she didn't watch them with me the first time around.

The one thing that this show did well that is seldom done in television is having characters decide to do things off camera and just kind of report later "oh I did that" or "I changed my mind". As if there are things going on in the world, some of them important to their lives, and we're not seeing all of it.

i love when episodes start and time has obviously passed but they don't really make a big deal about it.

i also don't think i remembered that when joe goes and gets his check at the start of season two that almost two years have gone by. 20 months i think it says at the beginning. that's a long time.

Some of it seems to come out of nowhere when the series gets toward the end, especially when (not really major spoilers here) starts speaking to others about how women were continually marginalized in the computer field and unfortunately ended up playing against each other. But when you look back at the series and realize all of the in-house drama with her and Cameron has this much larger context the little lightbulb comes on

whoops, when *Donna* starts speaking, that is

yeah i should probably stay away from this thread until i've seen season 4.

i wonder if i should just pay for the fourth season instead of waiting for netflix. PS4 will probably sell it to me.

I bought it via Amazon

It's on the AMC streaming app if you have any sort of cable, but it has commercials and is kind of glitchy

bummed at how normcore Cameron is, fashionwise, by the end of s2

she's going to switch it up

Just finished season four after a month's binge and feel bereft :(

man that wedding scene in S2 with Bosworth and his kid was really well done

"your mother would combust"

Yeah - every character gets amazing material but Bos especially. What a show, though. It's been a particularly rough month of my life and watching this got me through a really fucked up November. It's such a privilege when a piece of art reaches you at exactly the right time in your life - a few years ago or a few years from now I might have been less moved, or given up.

:/

https://soundcloud.com/user-193544149/halt-and-catch-fire-gordons-tape

season 4 is on netflix! woo hoo! i'll come back after watching that.

I just finished this and I am gutted. I'm going to miss the hell out of these characters

I am about halfway through s4 and am not loving it as much as prior seasons. Should I hope for a turnaround?

100% stick around. You've made it this far, so even if the ending weren't outstanding I'd say stick it out, but those final four episodes really are beautiful

Some minor, minimally spoiler-y thoughts:

1. No show that reboots its main character so many times had any right to be this good
2. They gave Bos so much amazing material in the final season
3. Haley was an incredible character who turned out to be as engaging as any of the series principals. I hope that actress lands a series of her own one day.
4. I need a hug

Otm re: Haley. And amazingly, that was her first acting job

Also Bos leaving the doctor to Fanfare for the Common Man <3 <3

didn't realize "Cardiff Giant" was a clever name for longest time.

All those little anxious tics that Haley did... I couldn't tell if that was a great character choice or if the actress just does those naturally. They really trusted her with some pretty demanding material. Both daughters were pretty remarkable, though... they did a great job making two characters who essentially didn't exist for the first three seasons feel like they were there from the beginning.

I still don't get "Cardiff Giant" but I do love how those final episodes paid homage to that whole storyline.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiff_Giant

I think I'd probably put this show in the top 5 dramas of the last 10-15 years, behind the big four (Sopranos/Wire/Mad Men/Breaking Bad). It's not up there with those, but I think it comes as close as anything else I've seen.

i think it works better as a comedy (and it's frequently much funnier than silicon valley)

Just started this on y’alls recommendations... finished ep 2 of season 1 and lolled at the ending “handle! It needs a handle!” and the sales dude imagining the future of portable computing when the IBM dude who visited him to give him his back pay literally used the briefcase for its intended purpose (to hold the check) and not do any portable computing

yeah that first season really does start off as rocky as everybody warns you it is. Kinda amazing the show became such a great character drama, given that it doesn't begin with any great characters

bos is the only character on this show that I actually liked all the way through. the way they handled the clark family story arc in the final season was very touching. i don't want to spoil anything but the donna/gordon flashback killed me

yeah so far it's not as bad as I was expecting, will definitely stick with it. doesn't hurt at all that mackenzie davis is beaucoup jolie

Not sure I want to continue now after that mind numbing Texas county fair Japanese car bashing scene

We are two episodes from the end. Everyone's really sad. I'm really sad.

I don't know, I really liked the first season. I think watching it well after the fact of Mad Men or Breaking Bad or any of those other prestige-type shows gives it some breathing space. Plus, season one Joe McMillan is hilarious. And the husband and I are fairly nerdy about computer hardware, so we were actually both invested in the tech of it. I missed season one Joe when season two rolled around.

Still, though, the last two seasons are phenomenal television. I particularly love the scenes in season four where the men gradually figure out what Haley's deal is. Just two men, trying to do what's best for a teenage girl. And I always liked Cameron's relationship with Bos. Age-appropriate and non-creepy! And I always liked how they dressed her. Never "sexy" at all.

Man, this is making me sad and missing this show again.

The scene in the first season, where Gordon steals the Cabbage Patch doll and finds the corpse... at the time it felt too on-the-nose, like a lot of Season 1. But it's really stuck with me! This show will always haunt me in the nicest way.

We spent this morning watching the last two episodes. I cried most of the way through both of them because I am a sap, but also just because they are great. I haven't felt this satisfied with a television series since The Wire. The scope of it, the character work that went into it, and the fact that the programme makers understand that sometimes people want an actual proper satisfying ending goddammit.

I thought McMillan's progression as a character is actually really well done (and didn't strike me as unbelievable esp. since he's supposed to be late 20s in first season and nearing 40 at the end of the last). All the characters are amazingly human actually. One of the few shows I can remember watching where for all the character's flaws I really liked and rooted for everyone...

watched through this show over the past few weeks, really remarkable show. each season is a near-reinvention of the show - I thought it was so bold to make Cam and Donna essentially the central characters in S2, while Gordon and Joe take a backseat. the Mutiny storyline in particular that season was so fraught yet fun and nostalgic for me, I may go back and rewatch just S2.

but then S3 and S4 also take the show to very different places. loved how the tone of the show gradually becomes less dramatic, or at least the characters do less to contribute to the drama themselves and handle it in more mature ways. the development seemed very relatable. also, hard to think of another show where I loved and disliked every main character at various points in the show: that's a huge testament to the quality of the actors. it does get a little ridiculous how much these characters' lives intersect at times, but I don't have many complaints about this show

bos is the only character on this show that I actually liked all the way through

Oh right I take back what I said, I never disliked Bos except maybe in the very first episode

late on this, really liked it.

Pilgrim's character's gait/high shoulder movement nagged at me, until re-watching the pilot ep; it's a nice (if obv.) call-back.

I watched S1 and the opening third of S2 a couple years ago, but dipped out for some reason. Coming back to it this weekend and I'm super into it now. Just a little bit into S3 and, if it rains a lot tomorrow, I'll probably finish up then.

it gets so good from s2 on. I finally watched the last couple episodes and they were pretty solid.

Loved this series. Would watch again but there is just so much to watch, it is overwhelming and often I get decision paralysis and just read instead.

I stopped two episodes into the last season. Worth finishing?

if you were inclined to stop watching that far in I can't imagine you're in for any revelations with the remainder

xp yes, because of how it's done, really touching

the final season is extraordinary imo

S4 is great if not as crazy as early seasons, and the ending was a fantastic cap-off to the series

I didn't finish it today, but I only have five episodes left and I'm dying to watch them as soon as I get out of work on Tuesday.

Going to start this show for the first time. In the event that my partner isn't feeling it, how many episodes should we give it until it hits its stride?

unfortunately, for a lot of people it's not until season 2 (though I think the change is more or less immediate?)

And I suppose it's still necessary to watch season 1 to know what's going on, as these things go?

imo yes, though I dimly recall someone upthread saying they started on S2. For me the trick with S1 was to just enjoy the time period/setting details (in which case it helps to have an interest in computing history) plus Toby Huss

Yeah. I think you can still enjoy the first season. Especially if you know that the Joe as Don Draper in Texas thing it seems to be setting up will be complimented by the more fleshed our female characters (and he gets more depth eventually too)

season one isn't bad, it's just kind of unoriginal - it's very "mad men" but set in the early days of home computing. it's still watchable.
xpost!

just started s2 after methodically working through s1, and the jump in quality is pretty evident by the first episode. first season felt like it was punching above its weight, with some leaden, obvious symbolism and a "subtext is for cowards" style of dialogue.

i did enjoy the comdex episodes, though, and i welcome any and all toby huss into my life.

joe was obviously modeled on draper, but the s1 version of joe also reminds me a bit of tyrell wellick (though i think mr robot started a year or two later).

There are so many iterations of Joe that Mad Men only hinted at with Don Draper. If Lee Pace weren't so good at it, they could've recast the role every season and it would've worked.

the shows are similar in that they both eventually abandoned forward-moving plot and instead are just the characters living their lives

pace did a pretty good job of grounding joe and his near-inexplicable actions in s1. again, e1 of s2 is already feeling like a sizable step up. i'll occasionally check in as i move along.

I loved season one! Admittedly not as much as I loved the other seasons, but I loved it while I was watching it. I think people are very down on it, but it's got a lot of fun early-days-of-computing frolics in it. Also, you know, Lee Pace.

I will say this about the s1/s2 switchover: it's one of the few shows I've seen where they figured out what actually worked, including the chemistry between certain characters, and figured out how to make a much deeper show without jettisoning the premise

all the John/Cameron stuff was great and I think Toby Huss brought way more than they were expecting

i love toby huss in this show. i don't know why he isn't in everything.

criminally underutilized in that recent Halloween, although they hinted

he's done much different accents in this and other shows like King of the Hill, but there's something that I recognize about him being from my part of the midwest

I also really enjoyed S1 for the same reasons as trishyb but Joe's actions are hard to believe. They strike a much better balance with him in later seasons

If you see him as an outsized sketch of what he’s trying to be, season one works better

Only made it through S4E8 tonight, will finish up tomorrow. I'd been expecting a "get the band back together" turn, because all ensemble shows do it, but I wasn't expecting the catalyst.

I can't be the only one who noticed the weird circular light thing that was happening throughout most of the season, whether it was the sun coming through a window or someone holding a flashlight, always from a head-on angle. Gonna have to read up on that.

Good ending.

Ok yeah, S1 E1 was a big no go. We're gonna jump to S2 and see how that goes.

S1 has its virtues, but you can probs get by with reading a synopsis somewhere. I worry you'll not benefit from a deeper understanding of the characters, though.

Definitely don’t skip the first season IMO. It’s worth it! Maybe the first four or five episodes are stinkers but the second half of the season is fun, the comdex episode is the first really good one, and it sets up the character dynamics for the later seasons.

but there’s a scene early in s1 where joe’s on a rooftop in the rain and tears his shirt off and starts screaming, and I was definitely like, oy, this show can *never* be good

Maybe zoom forward to the comdex one if you have to

I don't think that would fly with my wife, she was left cold by the set up and the convoluted reverse-engineering/copyright loophole thing (even if based on real events). And the initial market/tech landscape of IBM, hardware vs software, etc was not explained very clearly. It didn't bother me, but I can see how it would come off as "computers computers computers".

Comdex one is second to last in S1?

If her problem with the show is "computers computers computers," this may have to be a show you watch solo.

Ha fair enough, tbh I was hoping it didn't matter in the same way Mad Men wasn't made for people who care about the advertising industry.

i don't remember most of the show being computers computers computers. i think that's mostly s1.

the show becomes much more of a character drama as it goes on

Excellent

Yeah, the industry is still what it revolves around, but it gets more backgrounded over time. The details I had the most trouble following involved all the various buyouts, mergers and general vc stuff.

Yeah, to my mind it's mostly a show both about a specific set of characters and more broadly about the conflicts between creativity and commerce.

I think it may have come off as heavy-handed, but the way things circle back with Cameron and Donna at the end to make explicit how women in this male-heavy industry sometimes frustrate and sabotage each other

S1 got better as it went on but I’m about halfway through S2 and realizing it’s just a soap opera with some lipstick on. The various relationship temptations and transgressions and moral and ethical failings seem really familiar. Not sure what I expect from a tv show, probably too much.

Halfway through Season 3 and enjoying it very much, apart from Joe's 'selling' monologues (that got old very quickly) but the music is impossibly manicured and nerdy, it's kinda annoying, like some 40-year-old music supervisor's wet dream.

By all accounts at least 20 mins of each episode should be devoted to Cameron in her local record store shooting the shit with the employees about Big Drill Car seven inches.

the music supervision worked on me. I geeked out so hard at "pink turns to blue"

I was down from the beginning when they played Really Red. A few seasons later having Joe go to the Stark club to dance to Bronski Beat and Viscious Pink, a+ music supervision.

I also loved the soundtrack choices. In fact, discovered a few great songs through watching

Just finished watching this today. Some thoughts:

- This has maybe my favorite opening-credits sequence/music of any show. It just gets me so EXCITED and it's also really funny that the whole thing is a dramatic rendering of an LED switching on. It seems to fit the show's tone less as time goes on, though, especially in S4, where the characters are so much more grounded.

- Which reminds me: it really is kind of incredible what a *different* show it is by S4 compared to where it started. At points the last season maybe a bit too soap-y, but the characters are all so great I didn't mind it so much.

- I like the music choices too, but I agree they do get a bit "wanna hear some of my records?" And some of them are just way too on-the-nose, especially ending the finale with Solisbury Hill, which actually kinda worked, but still.

- This show could easily have sucked without such good performances. I can't pick a favorite character or actor, but the way Scoot McNairy portrays Gordon's arc from catatonia to mania to fear to eventual equanimity was really personally affecting.

- Watching this brought up a lot of my own anxieties about life and whether I am spending it wisely. I have this strong desire to *create something* the way the characters in this show do, but I still haven't really figured out what that means yet. And it can really gnaw on me sometimes. But I'm feeling motivated to pick back up some projects that I'd put aside for a while.

Yeah the opening sequence is great. It bugged me for a while because it sounded like a ripoff of a specific Trentemøller song until I found out the theme song was actually... Trentemøller

It bears a strong resemblance to "Still on Fire," but I figure artists are quite welcome to steal from themselves

Since it’s the last day of the year I finally want to settle something.

Joe MacMillan was killed in an isolated Y2K incident that caused an elevator he was in to fall 48 stories.

He was the only casualty of the 2000 computer bug and became famous worldwide.

Happy New Year.

— Christopher Cantwell (@ifyoucantwell) December 31, 2020

typical!

Guess I can blame JK Rowling for this, right?

just finished watching the whole series. fantastic show, very sad to see it end. A+ acting, hope all the leads get new roles as worthy as the characters they played here.

lee pace didn't just play joe mcmillan, he IS joe mcmillan

VAXXED pic.twitter.com/gdtSb0TncT

— Lee Pace (@leepace) May 16, 2021

IDK, I can't really picture Joe rocking camo

just re-watched the whole thing ... awesome the second time through. knowing the key plot points deepens the experience. rip gordon.

The first episode is hilarious and bad - the computer nerd who isn't just uncool but is a loser and deadbeat dad, the stupendously hot and cool and rebellious and talented female coder, and the glengarry salesmen - who gets to fuck the coder. But we stuck with it and yeah it gets better. Midway through S2 now, still good but seems to be trying a bit too hard to generate suspense - the legendary engineer just happens to write a devastating virus by accident? The games company that goes two years without even coming up with a single idea for a new game? And I don't quite get the timeshare idea, the mainframe is only available out of office hours so how can they use it during the day?

The scene in the first season where Lee Pace stands on the office roof, rips his shirt off, and screams into the rain, is really one of the worst things ever filmed (topless Lee Pace aside). It’s amazing how good it got later on.

when i re-watched with the family we started at S1E7 (at the LV convention) since the first eps were pretty ropy. really is amazing how good the show became.