New album shortly, deserve their own thread for discussion.http://www.buzzfeed.com/reggieugwu/premiere-run-the-jewels-zack-de-la-rocha#1gfkg4z
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 October 2014 17:05 (nine years ago) link
^this sounds dope as fuck btw
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 October 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link
Zach murders it
― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 13 October 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link
also: meow the jewels is almost certainly happeninghttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1957344648/meow-the-jewelsif you had told me six years ago there was $45k to be made with a Killer Mike album built of cat sounds
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 October 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link
who knew the internet had an interest in cats?
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Monday, 13 October 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link
i don't like cats but i am psyched about seeing them live again
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 13 October 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link
them = rtj, not catsi want cats to live (just not in my home bc i am allergic)
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 13 October 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link
jfc this track
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 04:22 (nine years ago) link
I was never a fan of rage but I think I'd buy a El-P/De La Rocha collaborative album
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 14:29 (nine years ago) link
Wasn't there supposed to be one ten years ago?
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 14:33 (nine years ago) link
ambivalent about de la rocha but mike kills it
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 14:34 (nine years ago) link
xp el-p said they were working on one in the late 90s that fell through. Not sure how well he would have fit over the Funcrusher style beats though.
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link
De la Rocha's verse... eh. Dude sounds rusty.
― ...and Lou Reed as Dr. Eldon Tyrell (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 07:41 (nine years ago) link
i mean he never was a rapper in any traditional sense. for a dude presumably out of the game a long time, he sounds a lot better than i expected, and objectively solid.
idk maybe i just like the song as a whole too much to complain
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link
I have never been a fan of De la Rocha's voice but for some reason I can't stop imagining his verse here being rapped by Mr. Hanky
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link
did anyone ever really rate him as a lyricist/singer? I always had a hard time taking RATM seriously, they seemed mostly a vehicle for sloganeering.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link
their myriad fans enjoyed his vocal stylings, yes
― ⌘-B (mh), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link
i meant anyone on ILX who is anticipating this album
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:07 (nine years ago) link
during a few years in the late 90s I was pretty into RATM albums, yeah
― ⌘-B (mh), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link
i'm not sure how to feel about this exactlyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cJLMourASE
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 October 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link
Seems bacony but not enough to ruin RtJ
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 20 October 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link
and this is out as of like 2.30am http://www.runthejewels.net/
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 October 2014 06:33 (nine years ago) link
gangsta boo!
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 October 2014 06:34 (nine years ago) link
to clarify: they did a mailing to everybody on their mailing list with a link to a zip of the full album + liners
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 October 2014 06:38 (nine years ago) link
Run The Jewels @runjewelsCOME AND GET IT! #RTJ2 #JewelRunners http://bit.ly/1thM7Ok
COME AND GET IT! #RTJ2 #JewelRunners http://bit.ly/1thM7Ok
― Number None, Friday, 24 October 2014 07:49 (nine years ago) link
We got the drugs y'all wantedTake a suck on the tail of a cometI’m so high you a hobbit
― ...and Lou Reed as Dr. Eldon Tyrell (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 24 October 2014 08:50 (nine years ago) link
got itjust what i needed!!!looking forward to the show A LOT
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Friday, 24 October 2014 14:00 (nine years ago) link
just got the email!!!
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 October 2014 14:31 (nine years ago) link
sigh the counter hipster is strong in this one
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 24 October 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link
RTJ is 0/10 because El P can't rap sounds annoying and the beats are tiring, same as the first album
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 24 October 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link
i kinda feel like ppl front on Rage but then if "bulls on parade" comes on the radio everyone is secret "wowow wowow....wowow wowow COME WIDDIT NOW!" and bobbing their heads
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 October 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link
where the fuck the wardenand when you find him we don't kill him we just waterboard himwe killing them for freedom cause they tortured us for boredomand even if some good ones die fuck it the lord'll sort em
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 October 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link
0/10?? what a disaster for run the jewels
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 October 2014 15:45 (nine years ago) link
I don't understand the the interest with RTJ please someone explain in less than 1 word.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 24 October 2014 16:12 (nine years ago) link
http://www.hey.fr/tools/emoji/ios_emoji_smiling_face_with_heart-shaped_eyes.png
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 October 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link
^^^^ OTM
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 24 October 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link
raccoon tell us who can rap better among currently active rappers, you know you want to
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 24 October 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link
can't we just do this on ask rt instead of shitting up the thread
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 October 2014 16:45 (nine years ago) link
ugh fine i just wanted to hear him try to sell us on travi$ scott...again
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 24 October 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link
Take your questions over here:
https://twitter.com/VoxExplainer
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Friday, 24 October 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link
the selfawaredness of RTJ is so cheesy and puke. If El P isn't already the most annoying man in rap, when he becomes this pastiche of El P with the cynical express goal to sell tickets to white hipsters he becomes unbearable. everything around this RTJ shit stinks, did you even see that press release after it leaked? "hey guise we simply couldn't wait any longer to let ya;ll hear out record so here it is! All you chainers out there we love you and mean everything to us now don't forget to buy tickets, because they're selling out fast btw!" puke.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 24 October 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link
ban Racoon Tanuki, rap album of the year
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/run-the-jewels-how-2014s-hardest-rap-duo-came-back-from-oblivion-20141024
― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 24 October 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link
xpost aaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha dude who was wilding out about ariel fucking pink is talking about "self-awaredness" and saying it's cheesy/bad, good game though, thanks for playing
plus i forgot music acts shouldn't encourage people to sell tickets
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 24 October 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link
also even if i disliked el-p no way in hell is he the most annoying man in a genre that includes tyga, big sean, wiz khalifa, asher roth, wale...need i go on
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 24 October 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link
how dare they make money through one of the only avenues left available to them
idg rt's trolling game, too slapdash incoherent, C-
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 October 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link
album made rt puke. existence justified.
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Friday, 24 October 2014 18:04 (nine years ago) link
only about a third of the way in but that mike/el-p article is great whiney
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 October 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, really tremendous stuff.
― Simon H., Friday, 24 October 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link
That last-minute second-to-last graf needs another pass, though!
― Simon H., Friday, 24 October 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link
ha, yeah probably.
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 October 2014 18:24 (nine years ago) link
DOES ANYNE ELSE THINK IS NOT AS GIOD AS VOL.1???? (BUT STILL REALLY GOOD)
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Friday, 24 October 2014 18:33 (nine years ago) link
i like the first half better than the second but i've only listened to it 1x
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Friday, 24 October 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link
I've listened to it three times and it's greati'm gonna need a month or so before i compare it to anything really
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 October 2014 18:41 (nine years ago) link
great piece whiney
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 October 2014 18:43 (nine years ago) link
^
heh, looking at the tracklist i saw "BOOTS" and thought it was Boots Riley, which would have fit with some of the other features.
i'm listening to it in reverse order for some reason and it's great so far.
― festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 24 October 2014 18:51 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, tracks 9/10/11 are remarkably strongclose your eyes is as good a single as i've heard this year
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 October 2014 18:55 (nine years ago) link
Boots Riley woulda been sweet
I prefer the first half, but with that being said: "I wear sweatpants to funerals, guns to lunch" = fav line of the album
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Friday, 24 October 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link
again, great piece whiney. had no idea both these guys hit personal lows after tasting fame.
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 October 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link
yeah kudos whiney that was a great read
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 October 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link
"Their banter is constant, caustic, occasionally filthy and often hilarious."
Imagine reading anything from rolling stone on hip hop, the most consistently awful place to read about it. All you need to know about audience of this album.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 24 October 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link
oh lawd this one here
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 24 October 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link
RT, happily suggest a single better rap artist profile you've read this year thx
― Simon H., Friday, 24 October 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link
the FP button still works, y'all
― sleeve, Friday, 24 October 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link
I'm not allowed to post an opinion on music, if it's about an album you like? Perfect.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 24 October 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link
stfu and opine
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 October 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link
hahahaha dude why do you act like such a chooch about everything?
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 October 2014 19:55 (nine years ago) link
(xpost)
At what point in that last post were you talking about the album? xp
― Evan, Friday, 24 October 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link
"Festival crowds have grown. They started seeing fan art and tattoos and "titty pics" and girls making their instantly iconic "pistol and fist" logo out of Hulk Hands."
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 24 October 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link
I've talked about how El P sucks, is an idiot etc. El P is in it for the money. Killer Mike is in it for the money. They're not saying anything on the album. Just lame brags. Uninspired try to be cool production. Only thing ElP ever did was Cold Vein, and it was only great because he was kept off the mic, everyone knew that. His one v on that album was ok though.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 24 October 2014 19:58 (nine years ago) link
Yeah man they're really in it for that free download money
― voodoo chili, Friday, 24 October 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link
I have never listened to/cared about El-P before RTJ tbh
lol @ in it for the money. those greedy musicians! where will their greed end
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link
everyone knew that, gawd
― Evan, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link
true story: Cube recorded his lame brags on Amerikkka's Most Wanted for a pack of twizzlers
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link
I give up. Point proven.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha OMG MUSICIANS ARE IN IT FOR THE MONEY BREAKING NEWS GUYS
but wait, wait, wait...i bet travi$ scott isn't, and isn't making lame brags, even though he dropped two free albums and makes money off concert tickets and merch, which sounds like an identical business model to mike and el...so i fail to see the difference except the latter two can rap and the former is passable at best
but caucasoids listen to it so its trash right
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link
Finally getting around to this and it's an instant banger. FUIUD Sockoon Tanuki.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 24 October 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link
Point? lol
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link
travi$ scott is in it for the UK street cred
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link
Yeh of course you haven't because people listening to this album aren't long time hiphop fans. You're not who I'm talking to.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link
i mean, they are making great money from everything besides the record itself, but it's kind of a miracle that dudes who start rapping in the '90s can have this particular kind of success right now. i love it.
xp oh lord
― festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 24 October 2014 20:06 (nine years ago) link
i hope everyone makes money! you need it to live
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 October 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link
Yeh of course you haven't because people listening to this album aren't long time hiphop fans.
So wait, longtime hiphop fans care about El-P even though he can't rap?
― Simon H., Friday, 24 October 2014 20:08 (nine years ago) link
but... I am listening to this album. the first one was great. I am confused.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:08 (nine years ago) link
sorry for name-dropping but i ended up having dinner w/their manager over the summer and my impression is that everyone involved with RTJ are smart, talented people who have more than paid their dues.
― festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 24 October 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link
I like this assumption that all long-time hiphop fans have been studiously following the career of El-P.
― The Reverend, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link
pouring one out for racoon tanukirtj made that raconteur pukey
― john wahey (NickB), Friday, 24 October 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link
RT is a hip hop Morbs and El-P is his Drones.
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Friday, 24 October 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link
guys I am pretty sure RT knows I have been listening to hip hop since before he was born, let's be fair
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link
hahahaha yes obviously none of us RTJ fans have listened to golden era hip-hop, we're all like "kool g who?" and "gang starr? those two Rs weird me out omg lol" and "tupac is only a one hit wonder because of that thugz mansion joint with nas rite" and "bizarre ride 2 the boringside"
like you have to be taking the piss out of us dude i've heard of troll dedication but this is next level shit
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link
You added the studiously following part. I've been trying to avoid him, but not knowing who he is...
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link
Check this shit out.
Super stoked to get home and DL this.
― racoon shipoopi (how's life), Friday, 24 October 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link
hahahaha yes obviously none of us RTJ fans have listened to golden era hip-hop, we're all like "kool g who?" and "gang starr? those two Rs weird me out omg lol" and "tupac is only a one hit wonder because of that thugz mansion joint with nas rite" and "bizarre ride 2 the boringside"like you have to be taking the piss out of us dude i've heard of troll dedication but this is next level shit
Your attention to my indifference to RTJ is telling though. It's just not good music, I advise you to get over your insecurity with your tastes.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link
if we're gonna be pedantic (and this IS ILM) I didn't say I didn't know who he was, I said I didn't listen to/care about him
tbf RTJ totally pushes my old man rap buttons, I dunno about other people, but it seems on some level that that's by design.
xp
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link
Look I'm not trying to get into this. I didn't realise this was a fan only board. I'll let you enjoy your album without my criticisms which are getting people wound up.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:20 (nine years ago) link
xxpost nah i'm sitting here laughing my ass off during a lull at work over your shit, and i'm trolling back at you because you troll literally everybody
as to insecurity over my taste i've been regularly posting in the taylor swift thread and have no trouble saying it cant wait for how you'll attempt hurt my feelings over it
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:21 (nine years ago) link
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, October 24, 2014 4:05 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The thing is, that, YES, RTJ is the rare non-pop-minded group that connects people who "don't even listen to rap" to longtime nerds and hip-hop heads. The last time that happened even remotely on this level was, what, Madvillain?
― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 24 October 2014 20:21 (nine years ago) link
RT people were getting upset when you got nasty towards Whiney's article, not as much the album.
― Evan, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link
xpost probably, and to be honest did madvillain even get *that* popular outside of those who were bound to listen to it anyway?
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link
I'm hardly a whiney stan but that's a good article. I also liked that time he interviewed E-40.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:24 (nine years ago) link
Thanks for all the kind words about the article, guys, seriously!
And, yeah, I'm not bothered by Raccoon Tafuckboi's nastiness about it one iota. Some seriously weak zings on that front
― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 24 October 2014 20:27 (nine years ago) link
RT only posts on ILX for the money.
― voodoo chili, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:28 (nine years ago) link
gettin that mad troll cheddar
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:29 (nine years ago) link
ok wait apologies for that b/c I didn't even realise the guy who posted it also wrote it until closer inspection
OK but that sadness b/c mv was very very good, innovative, creative, fresh, and in no way comparable
I have no problems with t.s but she's only the second most talented t.s out there right now w/r
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link
the smiths have been retired for a while now
― voodoo chili, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link
she's only the second most talented t.s out there right now w/r
irl lol
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link
i'm not hurt, tanook, speak your mind bruh
― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 24 October 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link
xpost i literally am near crying from laughing so hard at this shit
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:32 (nine years ago) link
"I have no problems with t.s but she's only the second most talented t.s out there right now w/r"
HAHA yes classic RT!!!
― Evan, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link
jeez am i gonna haveta killfile again, i suppose it's less ethically dodgy when the poster is a particularly thick sock
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 October 2014 20:34 (nine years ago) link
t.$
― Mathew Klickbait (Spottie), Friday, 24 October 2014 20:35 (nine years ago) link
no but seriously im not a dick like that i wouldn't have called you out like that had i known that's in fact what i was doing
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:35 (nine years ago) link
so odd that what put these guys together was Adult Swim; is there a good thoughtpiece about williams street's impact/influence from and on hip hop?
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 October 2014 20:46 (nine years ago) link
Raccoon Tanuki your aesthetic criteria are so weird and out-of-touch. which is fine as long as you recognize, & don't try to foolishly potshot a "target audience" that is much bigger/represents a larger % of the total 2k14 rap fanbase than you probably realize
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Saturday, 25 October 2014 00:24 (nine years ago) link
im glad racoon (or someone who doesnt seem to care about being perfectly rational and logical and consistent) is posting about music.
not heard this album yet but there is something weird about how much crit-love el-p has gotten, maybe since the first RTJ and the killer mike album he made. its nice and more straightforward, this newer phase of his, but i miss the 'i want to fuck with your head' motives of the def jux era. even if it has been a steady trajectory hes been on since ill sleep when youre dead. killer mike will always be a personal favourite, but i might be the only person who prefers his verse on snappin and trappin to most of what hes done later (though i do like the first allegiance tape). theres always been something a little contrived about his work with el-p, i cant quite explain it. all the tag team finesse is there, you can tell they know what works about epmd and run dmc, etc, but i never get the feeling these two really *connect*. theres just something that clearly appeals to people about el-p producing a street-rap guy, and about killer mike being produced by a former nerd/backpack guy. its like everyones dreams for a reversal of rap's bifurcation in one swoop. old-school heads like the nods to the mid/late 80s, younger kids like... well im not sure what they like actually. is their audience a slightly older one? sometimes i think i would have liked it more if el-p just took more of a sage francis type career route.
― StillAdvance, Saturday, 25 October 2014 08:14 (nine years ago) link
actually iirc when i saw them live in london, the crowd was mostly older guys and that kind of 'yeah this is what real rap is meant to be' audience. which is obv the type of thing a lot of non-rap listeners who only like rap when its more right-on seem to like.
― StillAdvance, Saturday, 25 October 2014 08:17 (nine years ago) link
...obv, while allowing a bit of petty-street-crime vicariousness via the group's title. was weird to get the email addressing their fans as 'jewel runners'. oooh, so dangerous.
― StillAdvance, Saturday, 25 October 2014 08:19 (nine years ago) link
Kinda wish there was less El-P rapping on this one tbh. And fewer guest stars.
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 25 October 2014 13:38 (nine years ago) link
Yeah he's OK but the draw of the whole thing is killer mike
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 25 October 2014 13:43 (nine years ago) link
Fave guest spot is easily gangsta boo.
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 25 October 2014 13:49 (nine years ago) link
El P has never accepted that he can't and shouldn't rap. Guess why.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 25 October 2014 14:39 (nine years ago) link
I used to love this song but this is as good as el-p ever got at rapping, as it he can't do it. He just blurts out loads of words. The beat at this time was incredible, obviously. This "jewel runner" cash grab he and mike are doing now is just lame to anyone who's a hip hop head for longer than a few years. It's like preferring modern more accessible and clever marketing Nasir Jones over 90s Nas. There's no defence for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k47VVqMiUTg
― Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 25 October 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link
I understand clowning El-P for being "a red-headed goon with no flow" (as one ILXor memorably put it) but if you can't hear that his skills have improved since he started working with Mike then I don't know what to tell you
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Saturday, 25 October 2014 14:54 (nine years ago) link
The dude has lyrics, check the first verse of A Christmas Fucking Miracle or his verse on Crown. You expect him not to rap?
― voodoo chili, Saturday, 25 October 2014 14:55 (nine years ago) link
To me this is all about image. Get yourself a cool cover and a cool name and an under the radar status your half way to making it.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 25 October 2014 15:00 (nine years ago) link
You expect him not to rap?
[Verse 5: El-P]With the pull of a pin a grenadeGet a crowd to they feet and a soul to its optionsI'm a fool for the win I been madeTo be loud while these other cats drowning in softnessIn a urn or the dirt get tossed inWith a grin or a smirk get accostedI'm a sin on the verse like a kid in a hearseOr a nun in a cum shot (stop it)
― Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 25 October 2014 15:03 (nine years ago) link
This "jewel runner" cash grab he and mike are doing now is just lame to anyone who's a hip hop head for longer than a few years.
you should stop saying demonstrably untrue shit like this, young man
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 25 October 2014 15:10 (nine years ago) link
StillAdvance, the whole "these guys come from two different worlds" element that you think is the appeal got people to pay attention to R.A.P. Music MAYBE
If you don't think the appeal of the RTJ albums are more about what they have in COMMON, then i don't know what to tell you
― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 25 October 2014 15:17 (nine years ago) link
Part of what I like about RtJ is that their antisocial schtick basically beats all the young 'horrorcore' cats at their own game, probably cuz they're wise enough to focus on craft & wit over some naive concept of 'expression'
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Saturday, 25 October 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link
xxxp that's not bad, i'm not sure what you're trying to say
― voodoo chili, Saturday, 25 October 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link
this has held up to 24 hours of looped listening so far and kept me from trying taylor swift's album
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 25 October 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link
"StillAdvance, the whole "these guys come from two different worlds" element that you think is the appeal got people to pay attention to R.A.P. Music MAYBE"
not saying its the only reason, but im sure theres something people like about RTJ in the same way they like about seeing idk, mel gibson and danny glover lol
― StillAdvance, Saturday, 25 October 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link
I don't even know what point you're trying to make anymore
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Saturday, 25 October 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link
his point: rap is for raccoons
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 October 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link
Whiney, great article.
And I think I'll stop reading this thread now.
― ...and Lou Reed as Dr. Eldon Tyrell (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 25 October 2014 18:18 (nine years ago) link
Nothing El-P does has replay value to me, hope this one is different.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 25 October 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link
I love this one more than the last.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 October 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link
What music does this Tanuki guy listen to? If I don't much care for it I'm going to head over to those threads and tell him that his music is not good and he is bad for liking it.
Naaaaaaaah
― ⌘-B (mh), Saturday, 25 October 2014 23:04 (nine years ago) link
Meh, i'm not impressed with the album yet. It's very good and whatnot, but I have come up to terms with the fact that RTJ is just not my cup of tea.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 25 October 2014 23:40 (nine years ago) link
please don't associate with me with racoon
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 25 October 2014 23:45 (nine years ago) link
Big difference between "not my cup of tea" and "fuck this sucks objectively and only idiots who want to be cool would like it."
― Brocktoon Tanuki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 26 October 2014 00:32 (nine years ago) link
being insulted by RT is actually sort of gratifying
btw tanuki are basically raccoons so isn't his name redundant?
i have to admit i found the last RtJ album to be a little predictable and samey compared to the KM and EL-P albums that had preceded it. it felt very much like a side project. curious to hear this one though.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 26 October 2014 01:06 (nine years ago) link
It's a "side project" in the same sense that skateboarding videos are
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Sunday, 26 October 2014 01:26 (nine years ago) link
i honestly can't imagine anyone who likes rap music not enjoying this on some level
― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 26 October 2014 01:56 (nine years ago) link
What if they're dicks?
― Brocktoon Tanuki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 26 October 2014 01:57 (nine years ago) link
I'm not a huge RTJ enthusiast (although I did like the Killer Mike album El-P produced a lot) but his reasoning for disliking them is just really weird.
xxp ehhhhhh I wouldn't go nearly that far
― The Reverend, Sunday, 26 October 2014 01:59 (nine years ago) link
i mean, i'm not saying the world should be i-i-i-i-love company flow/i wanna be down, I'm saying anyone with even a passing interest in rap music should be able to hear this record and say, at the very least, "This is pretty decent"
― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 26 October 2014 02:03 (nine years ago) link
So far think I still like the first one better fwiw.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Sunday, 26 October 2014 02:48 (nine years ago) link
But still, whiney otm.
"this is better than mad decent" certainly
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 26 October 2014 03:27 (nine years ago) link
idk put a dick or clit in yr mouth and consider this album a lil more
― ⌘-B (mh), Sunday, 26 October 2014 03:53 (nine years ago) link
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Saturday, October 25, 2014 8:26 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
explain
― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 26 October 2014 05:20 (nine years ago) link
Wellll I'm pretty drunk but the point I was trying to male was that it's nothing but awesome highlight-reel-type shit
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Sunday, 26 October 2014 06:22 (nine years ago) link
probably "highlight reels" woulda made the point clearer than "skateboarding videos" but hell that's where my mind went ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Sunday, 26 October 2014 06:54 (nine years ago) link
i like the album, but it seems weirdly abrupt. every song seems like its been edited a little too sharply.
― StillAdvance, Sunday, 26 October 2014 11:16 (nine years ago) link
i like that about it. great running record (lol). don't really understand why track three is basically the doctor who theme. that and jeopardy. they watch tv i guess, like people
enjoyed yr article whiney
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 26 October 2014 11:49 (nine years ago) link
actually tanuki aren't racooons at all. The mystery deepens
― Number None, Sunday, 26 October 2014 11:56 (nine years ago) link
this is a pretty fun exciting album but the production/songwriting is kind of foursquare... as w/ the first RTJ the song structures are very conservative and samey. the stuff on the solo albums was more ambitious in that respect./
― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 26 October 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link
yeah samey puts the finger on the problem for me, not enough diversity between songs for me to keep attention. not surprinsgly, crown is my favorite track on this.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 26 October 2014 21:43 (nine years ago) link
thank u thomp
― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 27 October 2014 02:21 (nine years ago) link
No, you're wrong. Which as you listen to RTJ in your free time is probably a running theme for you.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 27 October 2014 08:52 (nine years ago) link
.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 27 October 2014 08:53 (nine years ago) link
So, your thing is you're like a relentless dick who can't stand to see anyone enjoy something you don't.
― Brocktoon Tanuki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 27 October 2014 09:30 (nine years ago) link
Oh My Darling Don't Cry = oh my
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 27 October 2014 13:47 (nine years ago) link
xpost the trollsperation (troll desperation) will not be denied
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 27 October 2014 14:22 (nine years ago) link
run the jewels is not for children
― ⌘-B (mh), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:14 (nine years ago) link
http://tagthejewels.tumblr.com/
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link
I lol a lot at
my business card says you're in luckI do two things I rap and fuck
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link
yeah I love thatso much better than "My name is El-P; I produce & I rap, too!"
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link
RT always reaching for the next burn
trollsperating with anticipation
― Evan, Monday, 27 October 2014 15:45 (nine years ago) link
Really I never took El-P too seriously as a rapper until this, maybe will go back and listen to older stuff now
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:46 (nine years ago) link
no need to go that far back... first side of Cancer 4 Cure is dope tho
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link
actually now that I think of it, all of his solo albums have been half good-to-great, half tedious
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link
Fantastic Damage might be the most consistent but it doesn't have anything as straightforwardly compelling as "Up All Night" or "Oh Hail No"
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link
i think if you like this you'd like cancer 4 cure
one thing in whiney's article that's very OTM: Ghetto Extraordinary by Killer Mike is a straight up classic hip hop album that never got released.
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link
is it floating around though?
― festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link
i got it a long time ago, seems totally mastered/finished i'm sure it's around, i'll see if i can find it
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link
the concept of an unreleased albums seems so weird today
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
uh, i would like a copy of Ghetto Extraordinary; I never found one back in the day. YSI?
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link
i don't know if i can find the files...it may be on a potentially dead ipod :/
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link
yes please
a good friend of mine put this together: http://tagthejewels.tumblr.com
xp :(
― festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link
A lot of what I love about this is the vibe btw the two of them, contrasting styles, brooklyn v. ATL, on top of the beat vs. behind, constant back-and-forth short verses like "trading fours" in jazz, generally good chemistry
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:30 (nine years ago) link
yeah samey puts the finger on the problem for me, not enough diversity between songs for me to keep attention. not surprinsgly, crown is my favorite track on this.― Van Horn Street, Sunday, October 26, 2014 4:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, October 26, 2014 4:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think the *textures* of the songs--the quality of the samples, etc.--are diverse, but the song structures are kind of predictable and samey. i hope that makes sense.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link
one thing i do think is very true is that mike and el-p have kind of pushed each other to even denser, more inventive rhymes... they benefit from the friendly competition, not that rappers are ever without a sense of competition.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link
Ghetto Extraordinary
http://www49.zippyshare.com/v/64165742/file.html
― Number None, Monday, 27 October 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link
Thanks
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 October 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link
"i think the *textures* of the songs--the quality of the samples, etc.--are diverse, but the song structures are kind of predictable and samey. i hope that makes sense."
this is totally right. every song seems like its been put through some preset kind of RTJ sequencer. it gets a bit mechanical by the end. i was thinking its like a mixtape, but without a dj shouting between songs. like the songs seem more or less like they should be blended, they *seem* to pretty much be all about the verses. i was in fact thinking that i might like the album more if it was mixed. the fact that its all so abruptly edited together just made me think that even more. the other thing the album made me think is that i would seriously LOVE some accappelas from killer mike over old el-p songs like deep space 9mm.
― StillAdvance, Monday, 27 October 2014 21:34 (nine years ago) link
curious to hear what everyone who feels like this is a "samey" album will think about it when it's all cat sounds
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 October 2014 21:56 (nine years ago) link
it depends on how many breeds of cat are involved
― I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 27 October 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link
you punks is pussies, proverbial persian panther posers
― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 27 October 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link
mewo
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 13:37 (nine years ago) link
*meow
hey guys ghetto extraordinary could be yours! but i need to rescue a bunch of MP3s from an aged old school iPod is there a way to do that?
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 14:01 (nine years ago) link
posted upthread already
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 14:02 (nine years ago) link
Real music's gonna last, all that other bullshit, here today gone tomorrow.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:01 (nine years ago) link
aaahahahahahahahahahahaha oh man trolluki did you get that quote from it being sampled on pound cake/paris morton music or count bass D or are you gonna drop dat jazz knowledge cred on us, you are just the best
to quote the great desus nice "DIS SHIT DONT STOP"
― blood on the peaves (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:08 (nine years ago) link
http://www.theilsmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/F89-COVER_960.jpg
― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:11 (nine years ago) link
I have no idea who pound cake or paris morton is
― Raccoon Tanuki, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link
aaahahahahahahahahaha so which source is it then? or are you gonna claim that you originated that phrase i mean honestly please do im fucking dying over here
― blood on the peaves (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link
begborrowsteal was where I first heard it
why?
― Raccoon Tanuki, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link
stop feeding the raccoon, let him get his garbage from the can
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:37 (nine years ago) link
sorry it was dwight spitz i think, maybe bbs too?
― Raccoon Tanuki, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link
xpost ugh fine its just so much fun
― blood on the peaves (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:42 (nine years ago) link
Seriously you are letting one annoying sock hijack a thread on an album most of us really like, it's annoying. Just ignore him.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link
But it's cute. He sits up and uses his little thumbs to type.
― Evan, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link
you all must have missed the great "follow-up album" "debate" in the D'Angelo thread
D'Angelo - The New Album (2013? Please?)
― festival culture (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:46 (nine years ago) link
Omg that is some stupidity
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link
to be fair it's hard to make salient points when you're typing upside down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdccCD_6Gf8
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:20 (nine years ago) link
RTJ2 is a follow up to RTJ.
Not every album/thing by the same artist is counted as a follow up.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:20 (nine years ago) link
My fellow jewel runners.
hey good piece whiney! that was sweet how they became besties and stopped doing drugs, had no idea re the level of their success btw
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link
"El-P and Killer Mike individually are both fantastic and no surprise this album is. To me it's the true essence of Hip Hop, lyrical wizardry and some great beat production by El-P that occasionally sounds old School east coast style, El-P does more than deliver beats his flow and wordplay is equally good... Killer Mike delivers some great Southern accented (that'd be South US, obviously) rhymes whilst El-P has a New Yorker accent and they both seem to bounce off each other seamlessly and it makes for fresh introspective.Recommended if you like pure Hip hop all about the rhymes and music, no women/money crap delivered. "
Recommended if you like pure Hip hop all about the rhymes and music, no women/money crap delivered. "
My Amazon review. 5/5.
I forgot to say how much I loved the zombie hands mixed in with the old skool hip hop gold chain in that ironic way, the clever thing is the other zombie hand isn't even holding a gun and doesn't even have an arm. Design is on some real ill tumblr shit.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link
"Today Artist X released her first new album since her last album, which is actually a follow-up to the album before that, as well as a sequel to her first album, which was a follow-up to all the albums she'd listened to before turning 20."
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:38 (nine years ago) link
Is that from Pitchfork
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link
nah they havent reviewed it yet
― blood on the peaves (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link
but i cant imagine it'll be that much more cogent when they do
RT linking britisher amazon outlet, showing again he is the cross-atlantic arbiter
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link
rocky trolled this thread purdy good
― illegalblues, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link
It's just not good music, I advise you to get over your insecurity with your tastes.
If anyone is a psychology student and needs a paragon example of projection...
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/19968-run-the-jewels-run-the-jewels-2/
^^ ladies and gentlemen, the gangster yankee hotel foxtrot of reviews
― the late great, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 08:07 (nine years ago) link
It’s important to note that RTJ2 is an album—it’s on a real label and you can pay money to own it. And the transition from mixtape-to-album explains every progression El-P and Killer Mike have made in the past year.
The first album was on a real label and you can pay money to own it.
― Starland Vocal Gland (sic), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 08:33 (nine years ago) link
smh at 'fuckboy' in first line of that review
― bass, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 09:57 (nine years ago) link
less critically revered innovators like the Geto Boys, Goodie Mob, and 8Ball & MJG
smh, lolling, smh
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 10:10 (nine years ago) link
this is truly some next-level incoherent writing
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 11:05 (nine years ago) link
2004 Animal Collective Back
― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 13:13 (nine years ago) link
pretty sure I never downloaded the free RTJ and just paid for it, smdh at this guy
also smdh at a music critic not getting the diff between critically revered and popularly acclaimed, because uhh... music critics love that trio
― ⌘-B (mh), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 13:14 (nine years ago) link
this is truly some next-level incoherent writing― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, October 29, 2014 11:05 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, October 29, 2014 11:05 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 13:39 (nine years ago) link
great, my friend who i convinced to see this show with me is going to read this and think that we're going to be bombarded by fuckboys
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 13:40 (nine years ago) link
People don't read the review. They see the bright red 9.0 BEST NEW MUSIC and then they click the Insound vinyl link. win-win
― Evan, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 14:17 (nine years ago) link
it wouldn't be that bad a review if he cut all the parts where he's channeling REALNESS
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 14:18 (nine years ago) link
fwiw I'm probably setting the bar lower for him but I like Zach's verse.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 14:19 (nine years ago) link
Zack De La Rocha on "Close Your Eyes (And Count to Fuck)" before the real thing comes through to spit some goofy, try-hard "Bombtrack"-style aggro braggadocio that doubles as the best verse of his life.
wow, can't tell if this is trying to damn with faint praise or not.
― festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 14:22 (nine years ago) link
xxxpost goofy-ass writing aside i agree with the general thrust of the review, it is a notable step up from the debut
― and also pointsman, octopi don't bark (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 14:32 (nine years ago) link
otm hurting 2 re: the "channeling realness" problem
― and also pointsman, octopi don't bark (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 14:46 (nine years ago) link
Cohen's writing is becoming so incoherent and laced with conservative ideology I feel like he's morphing into Gavin McInnes
― fgti, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:18 (nine years ago) link
Also: great RS article, Whiney
― fgti, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:19 (nine years ago) link
man, i don't like this stuff at all. sounds like juggalofest stuff to me. i read whiney's thing though. glad they are happy and not poor no more. everyone should be happy.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link
from the fact review:
Is there anyone on earth right now who sounds like they’re having a better time than El-P and Killer Mike? And if so, how about that for a turnaround?
a turnaround for... anyone on earth?
― keep the meat alive: pampas grass (wins), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link
lol
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link
xxpost um wut
there are definitely criticisms i could see someone levying against RTJ2 and run the jewels in general but sounding like shit off of psychopathic records is not one of them
― and also pointsman, octopi don't bark (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link
I am sometimes amazed by how many rappers (*cough* white rappers) really emulate El-P or Aesop Rock's flows.
― ⌘-B (mh), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:39 (nine years ago) link
Aesop Rock is a dude whose flow I could never take. Should I reconsider?
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link
would actually rather listen to this as far as 2014 releases going back in time go. don't know who the juggalo with the weird eyeball is, but he adds some 21st century oxy kid rap fan authenticity to the proceedings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5VQTOBnsQg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link
idk this is the Run the Jewels thread, I have no other opinions here xp
― ⌘-B (mh), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link
xpost im never going to find anything bad to say about onyx, so thats a fair rejoinder
― and also pointsman, octopi don't bark (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link
and i'm not saying the run the jewels stuff sounds like actual clown rap, just that i can see it going over big at an intimate gathering of juggalos. they like that kinda stuff.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link
yeah I bet they would do OK at gathering of juggalos
my friend went once to help do road crew/set up stuff for an indie wrestling promotion and he said everyone got killed except Ice-T
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link
(everyone not on psychopathic records)
I think a lot of legit hip-hop acts play the clown circuit now though, don't they?
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link
I mean
Gathering of the Juggalos 2012[ edit]Main Stage:[ 13][ 14]Insane Clown Posse, Twiztid, Blaze Ya Dead Homie, Anybody Killa, Cold 187um, Dark Lotus, Psychopathic Rydas, Geto Boys, Tech N9ne, George Clinton & Parliament-Funkadelic, Mushroomhead, Rehab, Soulfly, Danny Brown, Slaine, Motown Rage, Zug Izland, Myzery, P.O.D., Swollen Members, Hed PE, Kottonmouth Kings, Static-X, Mack 10, Fear Factory, Kool Keith, Onyx, Millionaires (group), Master P, Prozak, ¡Mayday!, Jumpsteady, Rude Boy, Ric Flair
Violent J's West Side Party:[ 13]The Pharcyde, Lil Eazy E, Warren G, Glasses Malone,
Shaggy 2 Dope & DJ Clay's Beast of The East:[ 13]Raekwon, The Fat Boys, Rahzel, Biz Markie,
Twiztid's Dirty Dirty Party:[ 13]Rittz, Lil Wyte, Haystak & JellyRoll, Project Pat, Lil Jon
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link
i wonder when the juggalos will get into no wave/free jazz and if like arto lindsay and ken vandermark will eventually be playing their shows
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8TJYl4uc3lQ/TQi1rCot4EI/AAAAAAAACt4/Jw-c6zXp4Qs/s1600/coolio.jpg
― Evan, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:12 (nine years ago) link
think i'm holding out for a Juvenile/Ill Bill collab.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:12 (nine years ago) link
i should really go buy the new Juvenile album...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link
ill bill track with el-p on it from last year not so hot. ill bill track with HR from the bad brains on it was better actually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkq2lhPSeQU
― scott seward, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/19968-run-the-jewels-run-the-jewels-2^^ ladies and gentlemen, the gangster yankee hotel foxtrot of reviews
Racoon-T wins again!
― Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link
http://pad3.whstatic.com/images/thumb/2/22/Flip-Someone-off-with-Style-Step-7.jpg/670px-Flip-Someone-off-with-Style-Step-7.jpg
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 17:20 (nine years ago) link
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/561/870/jose-canseco-middlefinger_display_image.jpg?1321310554
― and also pointsman, octopi don't bark (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link
RIP finger
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link
what's a #fuckboy?
I was actually looking for a picture of a spring-loaded fist popping out of a box but I found that instead
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link
xp if you have to ask...
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link
xxxpost haha yup, pic was close at hand thanks to the just-updated trolling canseco thread
― and also pointsman, octopi don't bark (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link
I like this quite a bit more that RTJ1... El-P's beats feel a little less clumsy than usual. Wish he'd keep his mouth shut though.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link
my fave el-p thing will always be that instrumental company flow album. i think he's fine as a producer of fucked up sci-fi/industrial beats and stuff.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link
it's amazing how El-P beats at 80-90 bpm feel kinda dated but El-P beats (w/ similar textures) at 120-140 bpm fit really well into the contemporary landscape.
― festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link
I still listen to Cold Vein once in a while, love the beats on that. Don't really find them "dated" tbh, not much else really sounds like them.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link
how fast was deep space 9mm? cos el-p was doing faster bomb squad-ish beats back in 2004.
and little johnny from the hospital still sounds amazing btw.
― StillAdvance, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link
theres something much more smirky about el-p as a rapper these days though, less angst, more smug/smirk
― StillAdvance, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link
deep space 9mm probably my fave el-p instrumental
― ⌘-B (mh), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link
just checked and it's like 116, but it doesn't have that half-time feel.
sci-fi boom-bap sounds throwback to me (or at least proto-Brainfeeder), but noisy trap (for lack of a better term) beats fit right into the sound of, like, festival EDM and mainstream rap.
― festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link
Yeah Jordan you basicLly hit the nail on the head w/r/t the broad appeal of this album that I was trying to argue upthread with RT
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 19:10 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR-MYxUGOasprobably postable to every thread on ilx but i opted for here
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link
that pitchfork review did a great job of killing the hype.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 30 October 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link
On Letterman tonight...
― the man with the black wigs (Eazy), Thursday, 30 October 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link
Xp lol u dork
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Thursday, 30 October 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link
xxpost ok let's be out with this RT, enough people believe you to be a sock...
...are you chris ott
― and also pointsman, octopi don't bark (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 30 October 2014 17:53 (nine years ago) link
I have to admit, although I think he's a sock, the sarcastic amazon review threw me for a loop, like actually in-character doing a tongue-in-cheek amazon review is next level trolling
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 30 October 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link
if andy kaufman were alive to be on ilx he would prob be RT
oh shit i think i just broke my brain with the idea of that
― and also pointsman, octopi don't bark (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 30 October 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link
Racoon Tonyclifton
― Brocktoon Tanuki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 30 October 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link
I like this album
Whiney killed it w his piece tho
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 30 October 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link
xp Hurting I hate to burst your bubble but it looks like he just c+p'd some random Brit's review of the first RTJ
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Thursday, 30 October 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link
I don't think RT is a sock. Probably an old Hip Hop Infinity board refugee
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Thursday, 30 October 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link
This is okay.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 31 October 2014 01:07 (nine years ago) link
Haven't enjoyed an artist profile as much as I enjoyed that RS piece in a long time. Great work on that; fantastic read
― Evan R, Friday, 31 October 2014 01:13 (nine years ago) link
(I think my problem with RTJ boils down to: indifference to El-P's production choices; so much of what's there feels flattened out in a way that the entirety of the songs slip past me or something.)
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 31 October 2014 01:13 (nine years ago) link
(That said, love the backstory, the reviews, and the features. Wish the actual music inspired the same excitement.)
yeah the RS article was a great read (just joining the complimentary bandwagon here)
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 31 October 2014 04:33 (nine years ago) link
Thank you, Evan and ama!
― stop looking at me, quan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 31 October 2014 14:34 (nine years ago) link
yeah good stuff.
― no but seriously im not a dick like that (Spottie), Friday, 31 October 2014 17:24 (nine years ago) link
woke up in a cold sweat worried that someone may try to step to me at the show on monday (in the same college town where I just towed 15 motherfuckers' cars outta my parking lot on Halloween night)
someone please reassure me that all fans of this group are actually pussies, thx
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Sunday, 2 November 2014 10:54 (nine years ago) link
P sure you will remain unsunned
― Brocktoon Tanuki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 2 November 2014 10:55 (nine years ago) link
no wait the other kind, unsonned, tho i imagine it will be a pale crowd
― Brocktoon Tanuki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 2 November 2014 10:56 (nine years ago) link
I'm just glad the club I'm seeing them at doesn't allow Hulk Hands
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Sunday, 2 November 2014 10:57 (nine years ago) link
Watch out for white boys with AOL beefs
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Sunday, 2 November 2014 14:25 (nine years ago) link
Thoroughly late to this but, Whiney, your piece on this is amongst the best music writing I've read all year, thanks! <3
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Monday, 3 November 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link
yeah it's excellent. between that and 'Aphex and his friend talking shit over email' an entertaining few days for longass music writing
― well-behaved wingmen really hate Mystery (DJ Mencap), Monday, 3 November 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link
thanks guys!
― stop looking at me, quan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 14:54 (nine years ago) link
i was cleaning the kitchen and listening to this and it made me feel totally grandiose, like in a good way. i think oh my darling is my favorite track but it's hard to choose.
oh my
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Sunday, 9 November 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link
great article, whiney
― the late great, Sunday, 9 November 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link
haha
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2M1CDPIEAAhhj_.jpg
― i give up (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 November 2014 22:32 (nine years ago) link
Really love this album, much more than the first one
― Tim F, Monday, 24 November 2014 08:15 (nine years ago) link
Love that One Direction fans cross over with this album.
Yes, it's still crap.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 24 November 2014 13:15 (nine years ago) link
the show on saturday was really fun although i gotta say that "love again" was missing a crucial verse without gangsta boo there
― La Lechera, Monday, 24 November 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, her presence on that track is kinda the point, no?
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 24 November 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link
xxpost oh raccoon you have so many more reasons to hate me than you even realise.
― Tim F, Monday, 24 November 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link
such a great year for gangsta boo
I posted this in the Michael Brown thread but seriously watch this speech by Killer Mike last night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQs7CWKHM9w&app=desktop
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 14:56 (nine years ago) link
^^^chills, seriously
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link
killer mike for president
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link
mike/el 2016
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
i look forward to the philip k dick-inspired campaign literature
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link
I thought of Ferguson when I heard Early. Mike is such a mensch.
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link
would buy a well-designed tshirt w/ this concept
― alpine static, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 17:19 (nine years ago) link
tbrr i want to go to this show over and over againseriously i danced the entire time and my feet hurt the next daykiller mike for president
― La Lechera, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 21:35 (nine years ago) link
oh wow you were there???
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link
no, i was at the show in chicago on saturday, not last night!i wish i had followed them to StLalso forgot to mention that they did "get it" just as i had hoped and it was awesome
― La Lechera, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link
I would like to give all thoughts and prayers to the people out there peacefully protesting. and I also give thoughts and prayers who could not hold their anger in, because riots are only the language of the unheard
straight out of church
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link
OTM
― sleeve, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link
going saturday, second time seeing them; first was as killer mike/el p in 2012 and was awesomevery psyched
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 01:21 (nine years ago) link
a month later i may like this better than the first one!
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 01:31 (nine years ago) link
Also: http://noisey.vice.com/blog/killer-mike-interview-ferguson
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 05:35 (nine years ago) link
― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 25 October 2014 15:17 (1 month ago) Permalink
this is very otm
― Tim F, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 11:45 (nine years ago) link
sure. but its a bit like a buddy movie. two guys... from different backgrounds... who have come together to fight a common cause. think of run the jewels as being like a rap lethal weapon or 48 hours. ;)
― StillAdvance, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 13:44 (nine years ago) link
Rap lethal weapon would have to star Iggy Azalea and Foxy Brown
― ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 14:04 (nine years ago) link
in RTJ' case, both of them are 'too old for this shit'.
but my point is just that yes, they have stuff in common, ie being older than most rappers, being in love with the 80s/with PE, having similar views on 'what rap is meant to be', both have been underdogs in different ways, both are now experiencing bigger success for the first time together, etc etc, but in spite of all that, they are from v diff worlds and backgrounds (as that RS piece makes obvious), and honestly, their audience is def not blind to that, never mind the racial make up of the group. it gives el-p a certain street element which he hasnt had before (even allowing for the fact he appears as a typical new york hardass), and gives mike a certain indie cred, which he didnt really have before either. in other words, theyre the perfect rap couple.
― StillAdvance, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 14:18 (nine years ago) link
my impression is that the RtJ audience is more of an expanded version of el-p's old audience than a real crossover with what had been the core of mike's audience. but who knows.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link
well yeah, the audience is mostly el-p's, but i think its a lot of people who previously didnt like def jux too, ppl who thought they were too nerdy or underground or whatever, and like el-p more now cos he sounds like straighter hip hop.
― StillAdvance, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link
lotta ppl who would necessarily know about a p hardcore southern street rapper knew about killer mike because of how prominently he was pushed and featured on outkast though, and mike was already a bit more skewed towards traditional NYC skills type rapping anyway it's not like this is sage francis and lil' boosie formed a group
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link
cant decide whether sage/boosie would be cool or awful, leaning toward at least half awful
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link
i meant "wouldn't" necessarily know obv (xpost)
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, November 26, 2014 10:23 AM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Having spent a lot of time with dudes, I get the sense that the audience is like, some older Def Jux heads, some folks who built with Mike along the Pledge series, and mostly young people approaching both of them for the first time
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link
Mike's first (and last) major label/OutKast-endorsed album was 2003. He spent the following decade slowly building an indie hustle
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 15:46 (nine years ago) link
yeah good point i mean i'm sure lots of the audience wouldn't know funcrusher plus if it bit them in the ass
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link
we are old, we forget this sometimes
― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 15:50 (nine years ago) link
that's true.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
i was easily the oldest woman i saw at the show (still i think i fit in ok). on the el platform on the way home i saw this dude who looked like classic metal dude -- looooong wavy hair. rings on every finger, one of those faces/stances where you could tell he had to defend himself at some point and i saw a wristband from the show on his arm. i mean, you can try to pigeonhole an audience if you want, but i am def not a def jux dude or an atlanta rap dude or a metal dude or a dude at all or an idiot who didn't know what she was getting herself into and i felt perfectly at home at this show. i was standing next to a young (like early 20s) kid who looked like he could be one of my students. i made a joke to him about the missing verse and he didn't recoil in horror although i think he was embarrassed when he realized what i meant. haha. i was there with ilxor gr8080. i had intended to go with my friend from college who is mother of two beautiful young children. i like the unselfconscious diversity of their audience tbrr.
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
it is super weird to me that i am now killer mike's "old audience" but fuggit, i'll still mosh
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
just a fun-loving teacher, joking with the youth about missing clits
― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link
now i'm embarrassed but that is not untrue:-/
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link
pretty great occurrence imo
― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link
that feature's really really great, whiney. it also made me pine for atlanta.
also, no one copy-edits at rolling stone, huh?
― you fuck one chud... (stevie), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link
Part of the reason they have a big young audience is they are heavily promoted by adult swim
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 18:19 (nine years ago) link
And I think that their music also feels like "a good fit" for that audience
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link
No-one copy edits ANYWHERE anymore. Except for at the Onion, strangely enough.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 27 November 2014 03:12 (nine years ago) link
well, the reason I ask is one of the many various freelance gigs that keeps my rent paid is sub-editing at rock mags much less prestigious than Rolling Stone, so I was surprised to see the odd typo and repeated word in there.
but my main point was to say, awesome piece of writing whiney. did this run in the print mag too?
― you fuck one chud... (stevie), Thursday, 27 November 2014 09:04 (nine years ago) link
Apologies if this was mentioned elsewhere but I just found out about it:
http://hiphopsince1987.com/2014/mixtapes/killer-mike-sunday-morning-massacres-mixtape/
― cwkiii, Saturday, 29 November 2014 00:06 (nine years ago) link
honestly i hope that what tanuki is saying about one direction fans is true. after watching that video upthread, i think it would do this world a lot of good if one direction fans had killer mike available as a resource to apprise them on issues affecting the black community. can we get him appointed to that title? "czar of boy band outreach", or something?
― rushomancy, Saturday, 29 November 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link
http://www.npr.org/2014/11/28/366619092/killer-mike-rap-has-given-me-voice
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link
They did an Ask a Grown Man session for Rookie
http://www.rookiemag.com/2015/01/ask-a-grown-man-run-the-jewels/
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 01:21 (nine years ago) link
wow -- this long since the thread revive!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 01:23 (nine years ago) link
meow the jewels never came out huh
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 02:48 (nine years ago) link
that rookie bit was actually p good i thought! i mean there was some "guys are like this girls are like this" stuff but otherwise p good idk
― gbx, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 02:53 (nine years ago) link
they're still on tour
― bob seger's silver bullet gland (sic), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 05:10 (nine years ago) link
Huh, I thought I revived this a few days ago with the Marvwl covers. Guess I forgot to submit post or something.
― american tail/american pie (how's life), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 11:28 (nine years ago) link
Marvel
http://m.pitchfork.com/news/58091-run-the-jewels-get-marvel-comic-book-covers/
― american tail/american pie (how's life), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 11:29 (nine years ago) link
:/
― (extremely quan voice) My Lifestyle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 14:34 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkGwI7nGehAthe fight sequence from They Live as modern dance through the prism of police state as mutually assured destruction
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 26 March 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link
I really like this, even more than the song itself.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 26 March 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link
Provocative video from Run The Jewels. I am an old man who yells at clouds when it comes to most rap music, preferring the stuff of my youth to anything new, but I think I should investigate RTJ a little more.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 26 March 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link
https://instagram.com/p/169KV_y1Jw/
"Mike, Killer"
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 April 2015 00:59 (nine years ago) link
:D
― ( who ALSO my boss and his sister!) (sic), Monday, 27 April 2015 01:52 (nine years ago) link
Here we go:
http://noisey.vice.com/blog/run-the-jewels-meowrly-stream
― that's why god destroyed the radio (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 11:12 (nine years ago) link
Great Colbert intro
http://youtu.be/2vr3i8P0R8k
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 13:28 (nine years ago) link
Meow The Jewels is way better than it has any right to be.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 19 October 2015 06:40 (eight years ago) link
^^^ this
― please don't shampoo your eyes (stevie), Monday, 19 October 2015 08:16 (eight years ago) link
like these guys, like their music, happy for their success, sick of hearing about 'em :)
― alpine static, Monday, 19 October 2015 08:48 (eight years ago) link
i think meow the jewels might actually be their best album. i was never totally sold on RTJ before, but MTJ is pretty incredible. i wish all their albums were made like this now (with guest producers).
― StillAdvance, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 22:28 (eight years ago) link
First single from RTJ 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpici_OpwyE
― woman in the dunes, Monday, 24 October 2016 19:36 (seven years ago) link
:)
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 24 October 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/6dnklDZ.jpg
― just sayin, Sunday, 13 November 2016 00:19 (seven years ago) link
i wish ill on these men
― the fog of "Wha...?" (stevie), Sunday, 13 November 2016 09:45 (seven years ago) link
RTJ3 just dropped
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 25 December 2016 04:38 (seven years ago) link
Yessssss
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 25 December 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link
i like it :)
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 25 December 2016 19:42 (seven years ago) link
This is my least fave of the three - too long and mostly quite monochromatic. There are some definite bangers but the songs are structurally and sonically indistinct from each other. More guests would have been a big help.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 26 December 2016 12:46 (seven years ago) link
I'm digging this a lot
"Call Ticketron" is so great, love the radio sample & Mike mimicking JJ Fad flow :)
having Tunde Adebimpe and Trina as guests on the same album is very "Run the Jewels"
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 14:48 (seven years ago) link
call ticketron is a banger
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 18:59 (seven years ago) link
Rolls great, more depth than I anticipated, after I learned there was an RTJ3. I had forgot about RTJ.
― wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Thursday, 29 December 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link
my biggest disappointment was finding out that the "Boots" feature was not by Boots Riley but some boring guy stealing his name
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 5 January 2017 18:41 (seven years ago) link
^^^
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 January 2017 18:45 (seven years ago) link
the other disappointment for me is that Danny Brown track cuz ugh jesus christ is that how his voice usually sounds? I know who he is but have never bothered to listen to him due to descriptions not being particularly appealing to my sensibilities and if that is his standard delivery um yeah I don't need any of that
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 January 2017 18:48 (seven years ago) link
but generally this is great, another solid entry
that's the 'Danny Brown voice'. i love it, but he also uses a low register on some tracks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksaGN5mwAzk
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Thursday, 5 January 2017 18:53 (seven years ago) link
I'm grateful that someone else finally said "ugh the Danny Brown voice."
― some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Thursday, 5 January 2017 19:01 (seven years ago) link
i am not fond of it
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 5 January 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link
it grew on me, but that's more of a danny brown thread opinion
― mh 😏, Thursday, 5 January 2017 20:28 (seven years ago) link
master p-in' on these lost europeans
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 January 2017 20:47 (seven years ago) link
i've been saying "ugh Danny Brown voice" for years. if he ever makes an album that's all like Pac Blood i'm there.
― alpine static, Friday, 6 January 2017 00:48 (seven years ago) link
New song with Lorde
New rtj track with Lorde https://youtu.be/OQAnXxoUnw0
― kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 23:49 (six years ago) link
woah
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:00 (six years ago) link
they’re opening for her tour, kind of an interesting combo. thinking about going
― mh, Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:31 (six years ago) link
RTJ4 dropping on Friday as a free release. Looking forward to it.
― pomenitul, Monday, 1 June 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link
*download
― pomenitul, Monday, 1 June 2020 18:16 (four years ago) link
ooh la la is a fucking jam
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 1 June 2020 18:29 (four years ago) link
Can't wait to hear the Mavis Staples track
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 05:54 (four years ago) link
they should append Mike's amazing televised speech the other day to the beginning or end of this record.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 12:59 (four years ago) link
RTJ4 out for download now
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 16:22 (four years ago) link
Still puzzled by some of the blowback I saw for his speech on Twitter, even saw a few tweets suggesting they change their names to "Lick The Boots". I guess because Killer Mike owns some property, he's a landlord and not to be trusted? Or is it because his dad's a cop? I don't know.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 16:25 (four years ago) link
some ppl were presumably mad that he was not in favor of looting, but it's not like he wasted any breath condemning demonstrators
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 16:27 (four years ago) link
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ pic.twitter.com/65W1KF8hdW— Killer Mike (@KillerMike) June 3, 2020
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link
never waited for a download link this impatiently
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link
thankfully it's also on streaming services
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 16:59 (four years ago) link
so far this seems like the leanest one since the first which is perfect for me rn
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 17:10 (four years ago) link
not 2 Chainz' finest appearance tho
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 19:32 (four years ago) link
That has been the low point so far. It sounds like his part was recorded over the phone, possibly on the set of Most Expensivest.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link
Just spotted the gang of four sample
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 20:58 (four years ago) link
El's production gets more DJ Shadow all the time
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 21:17 (four years ago) link
Loving this.
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 22:13 (four years ago) link
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:32 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
You're crazy, tity is spitting on this
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 22:20 (four years ago) link
Thought it would be the ZDLR feat.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 23:45 (four years ago) link
Massive and essential album. Why doesn’t Gangsta Boo get a “feat.” credit on “Walking in the Snow”?
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 4 June 2020 00:10 (four years ago) link
Gangsta Boo was a great surprise
― trapped out the barndo (crüt), Thursday, 4 June 2020 00:14 (four years ago) link
Repeat guests are consistently inconsistently credited
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 4 June 2020 00:28 (four years ago) link
Missed opportunity for a surviving beasties cameo
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 4 June 2020 01:25 (four years ago) link
about to recommend this to melomane
― unashamed and trash (Unctious), Thursday, 4 June 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link
This is good.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 June 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link
not identifying features is a dumb new dad, so annoying, Lil Uzi Vert and 21 Savage did that toobut this is weirder because some are and some aren't, and like Greg Nice is just a sample but he's named
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 June 2020 17:50 (four years ago) link
Kind of perfect timing lyrically with some songs. Walking in the Snow is FIRE. This part is just incredible:
They promise education, but really they give you tests and scoresAnd they predictin' prison population by who scoring the lowestAnd usually the lowest scores the poorest and they look like meAnd every day on evening news they feed you fear for freeAnd you so numb you watch the cops choke out a man like meAnd 'til my voice goes from a shriek to whisper, "I can't breathe"And you sit there in the house on couch and watch it on TVThe most you give's a Twitter rant and call it a tragedyBut truly the travesty, you've been robbed of your empathyReplaced it with apathy, I wish I could magicallyFast forward the future so then you can face itAnd see how fucked up it'll beI promise I'm honest, they coming for youThe day after they comin' for me
And lastly, the line is particularly resonant.
Never forget in the story of Jesus, the hero was killed by the state
― octobeard, Thursday, 4 June 2020 17:58 (four years ago) link
This is really good, might be my favorite RTJ yet. I really like Cochemea Gastelum's tenor sax on the closing track, it does a nice job of linking the record back to some of the more impassioned spiritual jazz of the '70s that is a forefather of this record in a few ways.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 June 2020 17:59 (four years ago) link
funny I think this is my least fave RTJ despite a few great tracks
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 4 June 2020 18:33 (four years ago) link
also every time I hear "Goonies Vs ET" I keep yearning for a takeoff that never quite happens
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 4 June 2020 18:35 (four years ago) link
have you tried phoning home?
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 4 June 2020 18:56 (four years ago) link
This might be the best RTJ
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 4 June 2020 19:39 (four years ago) link
As with the new Four Tet, it's one of those records I never really thought I would anticipate, but also never thought I would *need* as much as I did at the exact point it came out.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 4 June 2020 19:52 (four years ago) link
not cracking the lyrics so much yet but it's great already
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:55 (four years ago) link
I'm on my second spin and so far I'm with Simon. It's good and its timing is undeniable but beat-wise El-P's scaled greater heights in the past.
― pomenitul, Friday, 5 June 2020 00:31 (four years ago) link
i’m a sucker for their shit. I didnt know they had this coming out. i thought i was sorta over how they do, and maybe i forgot them. nah i’m still a sucker for this, it’s great.
that goonies/et mike delivery with percussion and then sax is electric like a taser.
― inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Friday, 5 June 2020 12:18 (four years ago) link
Really feeling this sentiment, and I felt the same thing about the Four Tet record too
― octobeard, Friday, 5 June 2020 22:08 (four years ago) link
Definitely not AotY shit, but Walking in the Snow is definitely Track of the Year so far for me. Gotta let the dust settle though, but damn.
― octobeard, Friday, 5 June 2020 22:10 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UUTnQdgl9A
― billstevejim, Saturday, 6 June 2020 00:04 (four years ago) link
love the spin on broken language in holy calamafuck
― fatuous salad (symsymsym), Saturday, 6 June 2020 06:55 (four years ago) link
I'll pay good money to anyone who can edit out Pharrell's "geddit"
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Saturday, 6 June 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link
lol, he is the eternal herb
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 6 June 2020 16:54 (four years ago) link
the performance of "Walking in the Snow" in the RTJ4 live vid released in the last couple days is sort of astonishing
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Monday, 19 October 2020 04:47 (three years ago) link
but this is weirder because some are and some aren't, and like Greg Nice is just a sample but he's named
Listening to the album, I assumed he'd recorded the line clean for RTJ; watching the live performance, he's so precise that I'm sure of it.
The show is on HBO Max, Adult Swim, and youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMSw-E00Csw
― Covidiots from UHF (sic), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link
this is interestinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsR0Bh_Q4AA
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 01:31 (three years ago) link