dej loaf - try merae sremmurd - no flex zoneog maco - u guessed itilovemakonnon - tuesdayot genasis - cocobobby shmurda - hot n*ggarich gang - lifestylesnootie wild - yayotyga - hookah
why
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link
father - look at wrist
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link
riff raff - tip tuh muh juhduhzzzz
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link
lil b's entire career? i think that's worse than any of the things listed above by a significant margin
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link
You will not speak ill of Lil B
― 龜, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link
i can see why other folks dig it i spoze, just not my bag, also i could just be residually mad at him for this basedcurse thing retaining legs (get well KD)
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link
i didn't say any of this was bad (except riff raff), I'm just saying it all kind of feels like successfully mining a certain feel/formula, despite everyone being from different places on the map and different levels of success
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link
It's the year of the vine imo
― 龜, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link
I love the spongebob subgenre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nZhuWIqG9E
― 龜, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link
"hot n*gga" feels like the odd one out in that list in that it's almost anti-weird (despite its vine hit status)
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link
lil b never really got round to the "chorus" bit of this formula
― lex pretend, Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:20 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, most def. It's here for the "bout a week ago (bout a week ago)" and "get up out my traphoooouse" stuff, which is being traded more for how it's said than the content of it's lyrics
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link
Expanding on an idea that J0rdan S. had, we're def entering an era where rap is not about "quotable lines" and more about "catchy/entertaining way things are said"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
"shmoney dance" is a shmurda-related track that fills the criteria p well, certainly much better than "hot n---a"
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link
i think if this overlooks anything it's that these are all "weird" or "novelty" in v disparate ways
also are we really entering this era when nicki minaj is over half a decade deep into her career? isn't the uh vine-ability of these songs' hooks more of a unifying factor?
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link
sounds like you're just describing "how to have a hook on a low budget"
― celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link
This warble-rap stuff was well represented last year though. Young Scooter "Colombia", UOENO, Versace, French Montana songs consisting entirely of haaannnn, Future's big year (esp "Sh!t") all come to mind. With the exception of Young Scooter it isn't quite as woozy as this year's crop, but I still trace these songs back to last year's action.
I think the Soundcloud nerds on ILX might be overestimating how much it's blown up though. I only ever really hear most of these songs on rap radio post-midnight, although the local top 40 station here in Ottawa, Canada (!) played "Tuesday" as part of one of those weekday traffic jam mixes.
― fennel cartwright, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 22:19 (nine years ago) link
I hear most of these songs on my rap station, some of them constantly. It's one of the reasons I love rap radio: It feels like one of the few formats where any grassroots hit, however odd, can get a shot at mass exposure. Plus it's important that rap radio keeps its doors open to new voices, since the format so often falls back on the same five or six big names.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link
That's why it kills me when Drake or Nicki jumps on the remix of one of these songs. For me a big part of the joy is hearing artists who aren't A-listers; a playlist needs some variety
― Evan R, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link
totally agree. i'd add shy glizzy's "awwsome" to that list too, even though it appeared on "no sleep" last year
― chilli, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 22:50 (nine years ago) link
I think the Soundcloud nerds on ILX might be overestimating how much it's blown up though.
I mean, I don't listen to radio, but these are the songs that keep steady on iTunes/Shazam/Spotify charts that weren't like BIG SEAN.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 23:51 (nine years ago) link
I think this is more about young artists blowing up from below while the industry keeps trying to make ppl care about old ppl garbage
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 27 November 2014 00:46 (nine years ago) link
Also isn't "made me" by snootie wild a bigger hit than yayo
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 27 November 2014 00:47 (nine years ago) link
is it too soon to lobby for rolling spongebob vines 2015
― r|t|c, Thursday, 27 November 2014 02:19 (nine years ago) link
haha rolling doodlebob vines
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 27 November 2014 02:33 (nine years ago) link
weird voices are the 5th element of rap imo, god bless all these folks even the ones i can't stand like makonnen
― Murghan Troidor (some dude), Thursday, 27 November 2014 02:51 (nine years ago) link
^^^
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 27 November 2014 03:04 (nine years ago) link
ranking:
rich gang - lifestyletyga - hookahrae sremmurd - no flex zonedej loaf - try mebobby shmurda - hot n*ggasnootie wild - yayoilovemakonnon - tuesdayog maco - u guessed itot genasis - coco
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 27 November 2014 03:05 (nine years ago) link
actually might switch the bottom two
^id move up yayo & tues and drop hookah otherwise thats m/l otm
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 27 November 2014 03:36 (nine years ago) link
My rank
No flex zoneTry meHot niggaLifestyleTuesday
(big gap - all the ones above are classics)
CocoHookahYayo
Haven't heard the OG Maco one
― burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb ranks (The Reverend), Thursday, 27 November 2014 07:02 (nine years ago) link
rich gang - lifestyledej loaf - try metyga - hookahrae sremmurd - no flex zonesnootie wild - yayobobby shmurda - hot n*gga(big gap)ot genasis - coco(big gap)ilovemakonnon - tuesday
haven't heard og maco either.
― out here like a flopson (tpp), Thursday, 27 November 2014 09:41 (nine years ago) link
big sean 'paradise' is better than a bunch of these :-/
― out here like a flopson (tpp), Thursday, 27 November 2014 09:42 (nine years ago) link
and when it comes to rae sremmurd i'm definitely team 'no type'
― out here like a flopson (tpp), Thursday, 27 November 2014 09:46 (nine years ago) link
i ain't got no type...rappers with weird voice/weird flow/novelty chorus are the thing that i like
― out here like a flopson (tpp), Thursday, 27 November 2014 09:49 (nine years ago) link
no flex zonehot n*ggayayo
(big gap, top 3 are all incredible, as are "no type" and "made me". next 3 i can see the appeal but i'm not into them personally)
hookahtry mecoco
(huge gap, bottom 3 are trash)
tuesdaylifestyleu guessed it
does trae tha truth/young thug's "try me" fit into this at all?
― lex pretend, Thursday, 27 November 2014 10:00 (nine years ago) link
there is such a massive gap btw no flex / hot n*gga / yayo / lifestyle and this coco song it's like they aren't even from the same planet.
i don't even like tuesday that much and it's >> coco
ok, off to listen to coco again why can't i stop listening to this song?
― alpine static, Thursday, 27 November 2014 10:27 (nine years ago) link
― out here like a flopson (tpp), Thursday, 27 November 2014 09:46 (1 hour ago) Permalink
Yes. My #1 song this year
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 27 November 2014 11:16 (nine years ago) link
I think I'm getting some sort of moral thing mixed in w my push for coco at the bottom when "u guessed it" is really the worst, emotionally dishonest, theater kid crunk music
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 27 November 2014 11:18 (nine years ago) link
what's theatre kid about "u guessed it"? i hate it as well but not for those reasons (albeit i've listened to it like twice)
― lex pretend, Thursday, 27 November 2014 11:21 (nine years ago) link
It feels like "acting"
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 27 November 2014 11:56 (nine years ago) link
Maco and Shmurda are the only songs on this that I bang on repeat
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 27 November 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link
lol listened to u guessed it because of the above posts and i like it more than everything else i've heard here
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 27 November 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link
o/
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 27 November 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link
i feel like Young Thug and Rae Sremmurd are continuation of Atlanta rap's proud history of being loudly eccentric but also commercially savvy, and with OG Maco and Makonnen and Awful Records there's this quirky scarequotes layer that makes it kind of corny to me.
― Murghan Troidor (some dude), Thursday, 27 November 2014 19:14 (nine years ago) link
Otm
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 27 November 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link
Ppl who prefer "No Type" to "No Flex Zone" idgi. Latter is song of the year, former is just barely ok.
― burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb ranks (The Reverend), Thursday, 27 November 2014 20:46 (nine years ago) link
"Tuesday" is corny but also super-catchy and fun and fills an important gap in the list of subjects that have been covered in song and I've liked way cornier things.
― burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb ranks (The Reverend), Thursday, 27 November 2014 21:07 (nine years ago) link
― burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb ranks (The Reverend), Thursday, November 27, 2014 3:46 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
seeeriously. "No Flex Zone" is like the best ringtone rap single since the ringtone era ended and "No Type" seemed like such a disappointing follow-up before it became bigger than its predecessor.
― Murghan Troidor (some dude), Thursday, 27 November 2014 21:30 (nine years ago) link
Love the og Maco rev I think you would dig it
― 龜, Thursday, 27 November 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link
team both "no flex zone" and "no type"
― lex pretend, Thursday, 27 November 2014 21:32 (nine years ago) link
Lex otm.
― longneck, Thursday, 27 November 2014 21:44 (nine years ago) link
No type has a wayyy catchier chorus than no flex zone
Tuesday isn't even in the same ballpark, total drake stimulus record
― deej loaf (D-40), Friday, 28 November 2014 05:37 (nine years ago) link
Can't belive everyone's forgotten icejjfish already.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 28 November 2014 06:46 (nine years ago) link
This thread reminded me of the fact that the West coast revival seems to have fizzled out already.
― longneck, Friday, 28 November 2014 11:06 (nine years ago) link
Lately I've been getting serious Biz Markie vibes from Makonnon. One of those "once you hear it" things
― Evan R, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link
the criticisms of u guessed it itt are reading very 'oh biggie oh pac oh lord'
― een, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link
-_- the concern with snap music wasn't that it felt forced and theater kid-ish
― deej loaf (D-40), Friday, 28 November 2014 18:07 (nine years ago) link
What WAS the concern with snap music? That it had grown men snapping their fingers?
― longneck, Friday, 28 November 2014 19:28 (nine years ago) link
that it was the death of rap.http://nahright.com/news/2006/06/20/d4ldfb-killed-hip-hop/
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 28 November 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link
"Tuesday" ... fills an important gap in the list of subjects that have been covered in song
i agree with you on this point and it is catchy. it's just so mopey and that video
― out here like a flopson (tpp), Friday, 28 November 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link
lex's hate for 'lifestyle' is his most outrageous opinion since saying 'don't like' wasn't catchy.
― out here like a flopson (tpp), Friday, 28 November 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link
the performance in 'u guessed it' does have this quality of seeming really detached while at the same time obviously trying to bill itself as a viral anthem. maco reminds me of chief keef in that way.
generally tho a sense of artifice is tolerable and m/l inevitable. idk this is is like hating on the infamous because mobb deep is trying hard to seem hard (nvm the fact that they're actual theatre kids)
― een, Friday, 28 November 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link
*don't think 'u guessed it' is some kidn of classic, just making the abstract comparison
― een, Friday, 28 November 2014 20:06 (nine years ago) link
every day i listen to 'lifestyle' on the bus to work, close my eyes and pretend i'm on birdman's yacht popping bottles in the sunshine
― out here like a flopson (tpp), Friday, 28 November 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link
and pretend i'm on birdman's yacht popping bottles in the sunshine
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 28 November 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link
snap feels more like the rebirth of hip hop these days.
― longneck, Friday, 28 November 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link
comparing og maco to chief keef & mobb deep is o_O x1000
― deej loaf (D-40), Friday, 28 November 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link
"Lifestyle" does definitely feel a bit out of season.
― burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb ranks (The Reverend), Saturday, 29 November 2014 10:04 (nine years ago) link
Eh that's not really so much what happened as your average Big Seans have jumped on the bandwagon and you haven't had a YG/Schoolboy Q/Sage/Iamsu release schedule like earlier in the year.
― burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb ranks (The Reverend), Saturday, 29 November 2014 10:08 (nine years ago) link
is it too soon to pt out how 'coco' and 'try me' and shmurda owe keef for their sound/approach
― deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 29 November 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link
can we slot tkay maidza into this list as well?
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 November 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link
thug obv a thing of his own, quan owes future, 'yayo' i thought was biting gates but it turns out dude was just doing his own rap version of reggae in parallel to gates, does makonnen owe yung lean or maybe lil b or maybe keef? then there's og maco where it's like, man, we really had it good with pastor troy huh
― deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 29 November 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link
year of the weird voiced novelty chorus hemiola flow
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 29 November 2014 21:51 (nine years ago) link
lol it up but it's clearly true
― deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 29 November 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link
nah im cool w it
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 29 November 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link
my girl just brought me some cocoa while i was listening to coco and i had an xzibit recursion moment
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 November 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link
ILXor: Noooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!
― some dude, Saturday, 29 November 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link
u guessed it
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 November 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link
Maco sounds more like a cross between gucci, 2 chainz and some shouty guy shouting in the streets imo. Not won over by his EP yet but i'll give him a few more chances.
― longneck, Saturday, 29 November 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link
Let's be real guys Maco sounds like he's been listening to a lot of Death Grips which is probably why me and Whiney like him
― 龜, Saturday, 29 November 2014 23:18 (nine years ago) link
speculating on whether an artist has listened to Death Grips is the 5th element of talking about rap on the internet
― some dude, Saturday, 29 November 2014 23:32 (nine years ago) link
i buy it, though
btw im listening to this fetty wap tape and his song 'make it' is entirely in keef's 'hallelujah' flow
― deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 29 November 2014 23:34 (nine years ago) link
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, November 26, 2014 9:24 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Vocal manipulation is the next (last?) frontier in rap.
― future rendrix (rennavate), Sunday, 30 November 2014 00:21 (nine years ago) link
I thought it was the 5th element
― 龜, Sunday, 30 November 2014 00:27 (nine years ago) link
keef hemiola multipass
― r|t|c, Sunday, 30 November 2014 01:18 (nine years ago) link
5th Element is love, it's like you guys didn't even see the movie
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 30 November 2014 01:22 (nine years ago) link
its always been this tho
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 30 November 2014 01:26 (nine years ago) link
stop scheminand actin hardi got a great big bodyguardso step up if you wanna get hurt
lol so simple so dumb lololol
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 30 November 2014 01:27 (nine years ago) link
I heard "Tuesday" on 89.9 The People's Station.... On a Tuesday, feel like that song might have the longest legs just because there will always be Tuesdays
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 30 November 2014 03:49 (nine years ago) link
Haha so true. Share if you agree
― 龜, Sunday, 30 November 2014 12:45 (nine years ago) link
Tag a friend for laughs.
― longneck, Sunday, 30 November 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link
More people have heard (In Da Club) than "How to Rob."And it doesn’t get old because it’s always someone’s birthday
― out here like a flopson (tpp), Sunday, 30 November 2014 19:19 (nine years ago) link
Industry dudes stay getting robbed tho.
― burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb ranks (The Reverend), Sunday, 30 November 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link
https://vine.co/v/OixOBueKIbb
otm tbrr
― r|t|c, Sunday, 30 November 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link
https://medium.com/cuepoint/why-2014-was-one-of-the-best-years-for-rap-40ecab5b0ecf
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 3 January 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link
"2014 was the year of SoundCloud rap—why hasn’t anybody pointed that out?"
:|
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 3 January 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link
Dej Loaf is from Detroit?! That's amazing!
― the war on me (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 23 January 2015 10:32 (nine years ago) link