Nigella Lawson - classic or dud, dahlings?

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Apologies to US posters, but someone had to do it. Nigella Lawson is a british middlebrow TV pundit/chef. Just be thankful that we only sent you Anne Robinson ;-)

I watched "nigella bites" last night, and was amazed that this actually got a second series, because as a cookery programme, it's a miserable failure - everything rushes past too fast, the cameraman can neither focus or hold the camera steady, and he is way too distracted by Ms Lawson's hands, judging by the way the POV keeps zipping left and right whenever Ms L waves her arms around, which is quite often. Not only that, but you have to blow 20 quid on the tie-in book if you want to actually prepare any of Ms L's tear-it-up-quick Italian peasant cookery.

Because of this, the annoying way she flicks her raven-black tresses around while she's talking, and the terrible column she wrote/writes on The Observer, I vote for DUD.

But.

I saw her on some book-review prog a couple of years ago, and she was pretty smart & witty.

And, in the same way that you young folk are supposed to aspire to Jamie Oliver's lifestyle, so us oldies are supposed to look at Nigella's beautiful kitchen, and want one just like that. Despite being northern proletarian scum of the sort this type of programme isn't really aimed at, I do. Very much.

Also, the food does look very tasty, so perhaps not too dud.

Over to you. Try to be a bit nicer than U were about poor little Jamie Oliver! I'm especially interested in ILM's No.1 rural-politan's take on the epitome of ultra-London-ist metropolitan chic!

x0x0

Norman Fay, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

We're supposed to aspire to Mr. Oliver's lifestyle? But not to his remarkably fat tongue, I assume?

Nigella is nice, pretty and does not have a fat tongue. this is not enough to ensure classic status alone, but it helps.

Peter, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

mmmm, Nigella, if you can put aside her parentage, absolute CLASSIC! Very attractive, seems very intellegent (wasn't she literary editor at the Times or something)and doesn't rub her belly in an alarming fashion when stitching her mates up.

Also her cook books are incredibly well written and easy to follow.

erm, isn't this thing supposed to be about music?..............

cabbage, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Seems like WEEKS ago I promised my Nigella cooks-on-TV/writers-on-TV theory. So now I get called on it.

OK: unlike every other TV cook ever, Nigella CAN WRITE (in her own right) and is generally intellectually able. This is almost always a disaster on TV: writers are the kinds of people who think ahead to wonder "What CAN I be looking like?" — and consequently freeze up on camera, fail to deliver decent bodymove TV or relaxed-chat blather. To me, she looks nervous, all the time. (Jamie O too dim to be nervous, obviously: plus a beautiful mover actually in the Act of Prep... )

Can write: I don't mean her column, I mean her cookery books. How to Eat is good. Very readable, very sensible, not particularly posey (except maybe over equipment). A good test of lack of unnecessary ponciness is always the cooking for kids section.

Because she's plainly a babe (and because people probably feel sorry for her, what with J.Diamond blah blah), and because more TV programme commissioners are intimidated by unexpected things than you'd, er, expect, yes, second series. Undeserved.

My sister's boyfriend thinks she's, well, I won't even say... : but he deserves mention because he told me the following story. That when Jamie Oliver did his New York-based TV show, all his "friends" were just hired for the evening. This is too great.

mark s, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Right, lets see: Nigella Lawson is not an annoying twat like Jamie Oliver, has not starred in a load of continuously repeated and staggeringly annoying adverts for Sainsburys which have exponentially increased the popularity and lifespan of Britains worst band, Toploader. Furthermore, she hence wasn't responsible for the marriage and media interest of bloke without stupid hair from the aforementioned 'Loader and Gail 'ladette' Porter.

This alone merits classic status.

Bill

Bill, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Her brother (Dominic Lawson - editor of the Spectator, I think) is an XTC fan and contributes to a fansite, Chalkhills and Children, from time to time. I hate food programmes, but Nigella and her kitchen are cool.

Dr. C, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Dominic Lawson = XTC fan. But who will tell Robin?

mark s, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

She's luvverly, yum.

Nick, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

btw — off-thread, but *I'm* not gonna start it — Loyd Grossman is author (in the 70s?) of "A Social History of Rock": have any of you junior foodies ever read or even come across this?

mark s, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

One of the irritating things about How to Eat is that it assumes that you'll have a little Italian/Jewish/Turkish family-run deli on the corner (which you won't if you live in darkest Dorset), who'll have a fresh supply of THAT PARTICULAR smoked cheese from Naples which have you have to crumble into the cous-cous. You'll be SUCH good friends with them that you'll occasionally eat with them in their kitchen - a simple but delicious supper thrown together by the grandmother.

You'll also have the money to piss away round there instead of looking for special offers in Tescos.

To be fair Nigella isn't as bad in this respect as some other food writers, but even though I have plenty of good delis close to me, it's still irksome.

Dr. C, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I may have dreamt it, but I seem to remember hearing that Grossman also interviewed the Allmann Bros for Rolling Stone...

stevie t, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

All cookery writers assume you are best buds with your butcher. I wouldn't go into my local unless I was armed with a flamethrower...

mark s, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

She's also single again. Perhaps I might pop round to offer her some spiritual support.

The Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Lloyd Grossman had his own punk band in the late 70s called Jet Bronx and the Forbidden. After moving to the UK he managed a band called the Movies. I think he's also the same Lloyd Grossman who produced an album by the Jewish prog rock band Guns & Butler.

scott, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

GUNS AND BUTLER

Personnel:

PAUL COHEN gtr A PETER COHEN bs A LENNY FEDERER violin, viola A JEFF LYONS vcls, gtr A RICHARD PLOSS flute, sax A PETER TUCKER drms A

ALBUM:

1.(A) GUNS AND BUTLER (Cotillion SD 9901) 1972

A very marginal case for inclusion because this is an underrated progressive as opposed to garage or psychedelic album. An unusual combination of instruments works well with all tracks interesting and a couple particularly good - all were penned by the group. An all Jewish line-up with a hint of traditional Jewish music in their sound. Closely followed by Lloyd Grossman, who co-produced the album and wrote the sleeve-notes.

Just in case anyone thought Scott was tripping

mark s, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

anyone read the bit on nige on the V/Vm page ?

- and i thought i wazza nasty-pastie !

replicuntz queerdup to prog, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Fucking hell.

Dominic Lawson edits the Sunday Telegraph (I believe he edited the Spectator previously) which is, yes, the embodiment of the send- everything-from-1965-onwards-back-where-it-comes-from idea of ruralism and the countryside that is, yes, the exact opposite of Skylarking. There's no doubt that the ST defines the set of values which, in my mind, Skylarking subverts and works against.

I find this *very* nearly impossible to believe; Dr C, are you winding me up here? Or is this genuinely true?

My perspective, somehow, shifts violently.

This makes my Green-Gartside-as-Martin-Carthy-fan moment (and my resulting theory on the song structure of "The Word Girl") seem insignificant ...

(for Norman's original question; don't care either way.)

Robin Carmody, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Lloyd Grossman had his own punk band in the late 70s called Jet Bronx and the Forbidden. After moving to the UK he managed a band called the Movies. I think he's also the same Lloyd Grossman who produced an album by the Jewish prog rock band Guns & Butler. (Scott)

I have vivid memories of a friend of mine moaning to me c1982 that Loyd Grossman had ruined his band's demo.

David, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Robin - it's true. I haven't looked at Chalkhills and Children for 6 months or so, but for a while I logged-in around once a week. At that time Dominic Lawson was a frequent contributer to the daily e-mail archive discussion thing which they run. If you don't believe me have a look at the archives. It was HIM, not a wind-up or an imposter.

Dr. C, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I think this suggests that pop is where binary political ideas decompose or at least wobble, rather than where they are constituted. You might say the same for 'the countryside' too - political and cultural certainty is so.....urban ;)

Tom, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

You're probably right there, Tom. I think the thing here is that most people just don't politicise or ideologise music *at all*, and they might not even define their own political and ideological beliefs as clearly as those who disagree with them sometimes would, so while you or I might perceive "Skylarking" and the Sunday Telegraph as cultural opposites, someone involved with the ST who happened to like the sound / atmosphere / songs on "Skylarking" would just see it as such, and just like what he was hearing without thinking about any deeper "cultural meaning". I'm sure Dominic Lawson listens to it as such, and for those who don't ideologise music, that would be enough.

Next thing I know, though, someone will reveal Charles Moore's secret life as a Fairport Convention fan (or maybe even a prep-school hippy, a la his only decent columnist, Craig Brown).

Robin Carmody, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Another thread ends up as an XTC thread - this time my fault. I think you're on shaky ground here, Robin. Why on earth should someone with right-wing political views necessarily have a shallower view of a particular piece of music? A DIFFERENT perspective to yours maybe -or maybe not. How do you know? Anyway, what is the cultural meaning of Skylarking - I'm buggered if I can find one.

Dr. C, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I find it difficult to imagine anyone interpreting "Skylarking" as right-wing (though sadly it's not impossible, though I'd doubt whether Lawson does). What I will say is that it would be ***absolutely impossible*** for a Telegraph / Spectator man to think of it as I do, because my view of it involves too many mental and cultural concepts which are the opposite of everything those organs stand for.

My view of "Skylarking" is of a progressive rural community rooted in tradition but which doesn't try to keep anything modern out, and also believes in concepts of social equality, not landowners acting like they have a divine right to treat rural working-class people like peasants (protectionism and tight class structures being two vital elements of the Telegraph's particular vision of England outside the cities and suburbia). Obviously Lawson could never see it in the way *I* do(my guess is that he doesn't see it any way at all) because, if he believed in a progressive countryside, he wouldn't have anything to do with the Telegraph or the Spectator. The man rants about William Hague representing the voice of non-metropolitan Britain, for fuck's sake.

Robin Carmody, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

You said : My view of "Skylarking" is of a progressive rural community rooted in tradition but which doesn't try to keep anything modern out, and also believes in concepts of social equality, not landowners acting like they have a divine right to treat rural working-class people like peasants....

I don't hear this AT ALL, Robin. It doesn't appear to be a thematic work at all, and I don't see much connection between the songs other than the overall *sound and feel*. The characters and subjects don't appear to be rural in the main. What am I missing?

Dr. C, Wednesday, 23 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

You're missing being a serious political / social thinker, Dr C. Nowt wrong with that :).

The vast majority of the audience for Skylarking *won't* hear what I hear in it, and that's fine by me. I can even imagine it being appropriated by Tories, because it's lyrically obviously apolitical, and there's far more explicit socialist content in a lot of English folk music which has become a key part of the "unchanging" idea of the countryside which Tories, almost by definition, love.

You really don't have to politicise it, Dr C. I just found it curious that someone whose politics are so utterly oppositional to mine liked XTC.

Cheers,

a resident of darkest Dorset :).

Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 23 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

But aren't you just projecting your politics onto a piece of music which just doesn't support them?

Dr. C, Wednesday, 23 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Hang on a minute Robin. I haven't heard this Skylarking lark but I took it on trust from what you were saying that it was quite explicitly anti-reactionary. Why else would you be so shocked that Dominic Lawson was a fan? If all this "progressive rural community rooted in tradition but which doesn't try to keep anything modern out, and also believes in concepts of social equality, not landowners acting like they have a divine right to treat rural working-class people like peasants" stuff is just your own take on a largely apolitical record then I just can't see what all the fuss was about.

Next you'll be saying you find it weird that Hitler liked Mozart* or something.

* I have no idea if Hitler or Robin Carmody likes Mozart, btw, but I'm you know what I mean.

Nick, Wednesday, 23 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I fail to see how any of this is different from enjoying Jay-Z's music while wanting nothing to do with his sexism.

Patrick, Wednesday, 23 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Skylarking isn't deeply anti-reactionary, but it certainly couldn't be said to support the Tory idea of the countryside either. As I said earlier, I probably dug my own hole (Lawson liking explicitly socialist traditional songs would fit such a description better), but, yes, I'll admit it, I *had* internalised a record which meant a lot to me, and, yes, when I discvoer that people who I had internalised as "personal enemies" *also* like it, I am shaken up. It's probably a shaking up I deserve, actually.

Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 23 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

two months pass...
Who gives a stuff what the program is like? Lets face it she's about the best piece of fanny on tv. She has a cheast to die for.

:-)

Norman Bates, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

She seems to have a lot of people die on her. Is she radioactive?

dave q, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

she's about the best piece of fanny on tv

I hate this hypersexualised environment. When does the return bus leave?

As a matter of interest are you using this turn of phrase 'ironically' or is that really the way you talk/think?

Nick, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

She seems to have a lot of people die on her

Elizabeth David also left a trail of corpses, didn't she? It's the curse of the culinary social pioneer. "Most cooks use rubbed sage here, but I think aconite has a tarter, more authentic presence..."

mark s, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

two months pass...
pretty fit though..

:P, Saturday, 20 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

what are you all talking about. Fit? bloody hell. even if she was, can you imagine spending more than a minute in her company before wanting to brick her in the face for being so annoying. fuck.

, Sunday, 21 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one month passes...
On for pete's sake. What a bunch of snivelling gits the British are sometimes. Nigella's a breathe of fresh air for Americans bored with obviously staged, gimmicky, formulaic cooking programs. She's insouciant, opinionated, and obviously not so into herself that she's beyond self- deprecation. If the stodgy-minded find the pace too quick or breathless, if their poor pencils can't keep up and the camerawork blinds them, may I suggest Julia Child circa 1968. NL has just hit the small screen in the colonies, and I predict her newest volume ('Domestic Goddess,' here) will be flying off the shelves come Christmas. With respect to her beauty, she's the type women admire rather than envy, with the charmingly large ears and not-quite-perfect teeth (by American standards anyway-- the wretched teeth of the British being part of their quirkiness): somehow it all fits together beautifully and she seems ridiculously comfortable in her own skin. {Re: the risible comment by some proto-Neanderthal-- Norman Bates? lord...-- about her ample bosom (that would be spelled 'chest', not 'cheast,' Norm) may I remind the gentleman that a man's IQ can easily be judged in inverse proportion to the largeness of the female breastsize to which he gravitates.} I have only tried three of her recipes so far, but they're all easy and taste fabulous. Those who loathe Nigella (is this simply what you call the 'tall poppy syndrome'?) I'd have to say: write a damn cookbook yourself if you're so expert, and leave Nigella be. She's got native intellgence, wit, and drive. Perhaps she'd be more comfortable in America...? elw

elwickstrom, Sunday, 2 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one month passes...
We just got Nigella here in the States a month or two ago. I was put off initially, but she grows on one. The baking is hard to follow (although her book is quite good), but she cooks as do real people (or at least I) cook--no measuring cups and spoons and scales.

However, a question from a non-British person: What's the deal with your cooking shows, what with all these intercuts of pasty boys on their Vespas, underscored by peppy jazz lite? Jamie Oliver is just too too much. Actually, what's with the motorbikes at all--re the disgusting 2 fat ladies program? And I can do without Nigella taking the kids to school, and the general here are my lovely chums features. US cooking shows--the decent ones at least--don't include the lifestyle crap. Are we supposed to envy these folks' zest for life?

Just pray that We don't export the Emeril cooking show to you all. It's done live, in front of a screaming sycophantic audience, with interludes from a dreadful Cajun/jazz lite band.

Helayne H-B, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Forget the cooking shows. Just be glad the redecorating shows haven't come to the US yet. You can't turn on the TV in England these days without coming across some program involving a crack team making over somebody's semi-detached in Leamington Spa. It's weird, like the country is being forcibly educated on how to become middle-class.

Ben Williams, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

forcibly as in they put these programmes on knowing how enormously unpopular and resented they are...

mark s, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

It's soft power, Mark ;)

Ben Williams, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Btw, it should also be noted that British TV is far worse than American. During a mere ten-day span this Christmas, I saw many many things that would never make it on air in the US. And not just penises, either. Truly, fantastically shameless crap--and this is just on the regular five (count 'em) channels.

Ben Williams, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Two Fat Ladies totally rocked. Best cooking show since the Galloping Gourmet.

Arthur, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

British TV is far worse than American = not remotely true

A thing I liked abt two fat ladies: THEY WERE ALWAYS MAKING JOKES ABT NOT WASHING THEIR HANDS!!

mark s, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

gastroporn

David, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

British TV is far worse than American = very true

Things I saw on my holidays:

Night Fever: c-list celebrities doing karaoke while the audience sings along and the lyrics are superimposed on the screen

Eurotrash Smut Awards (or some such title): Various losers get semi- naked at pseudo awards ceremony. Includes live Puppetry of the Penis segment.

Eastenders; I come back to find Phil is now the bad guy; last I recall, he was the good brother; show has more ridiculous subplots than Dallas or Dynasty ever managed

100 Greatest TV Moments of 2001 program included the following delights:

Mascot race; people dress up in furry animal costumes and jump fences

Taboo; woman talks in serious, scientific way that only Brits can do in sex programs in front of giant picture of man with erection; erection hidden by rotating colored squares

Touch the truck; competition in which contestants must hold hands on giant SUV in mall; last one to pull hands away wins; winner talks about selling the truck and starting a new political party with the money

Various appearances by laughing-stock politicians the Hamiltons on daytime talk shows, including giving relationship advice on the Big Breakfast (no US politician could ever get away with this)

UK is of course also responsible for raising the TV bar worldwide with such quality fare as Survivor, Big Brother, Who Wants to Be A Millionaire, Weakest Link et al

Ben Williams, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Survivor and Big Brother did not originate in the UK. US Survivor was first screened months before the British one. Touch the Truck is also an import.

RickyT, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yeah, but the guy behind Survivor is British ;)

Where does Big Brother originate then? I know it's not US.

Ben Williams, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The original big brother was dutch IIRC

Norman Phay, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Big Brother = indeed originally Dutch, had also spread to several other European countries before the UK.

I'd love to think that "Clarissa and the Countryman" (she was the One Fat Lady that didn't die, right?) was recommissioned as a means of annoying me based on my posts upthread ...

Robin Carmody, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm just curious to know how Ms Lawson could suddenly go into a new relationship almost immediately after her husband died (unless of course she was already seeing Saatchi anyway, or unless the whole thing is PR hype). From my point of view, four months after Laura's death, I still can't visualise myself getting involved with someone else romantically - I'm certainly not mentally/emotionally prepared for anything like that yet. Whether it would be a good idea for me to get involved with someone (even if I didn't feel ready for it; would it still be something I "need"?) is another question altogether. I'm not putting Nigella down, but am just mystified at how she does it.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 4 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yeah, I think she was very good friends with Saatchi towards the end of John Diamond's life.

N., Friday, 4 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I wouldn't venture to pass judgment on British TV, but I caution those who get worked up about the excellence of US TV. I've got access to apprx. 125 channels on my cable system, and you can't imagine the crap shown to fill this space. We've got something called the Food Network, which does cooking shows round the clock. I think most of them could challenge anything you've got for sheer gagging awfulness. It shows The Naked Gourmet, by the way; need I say more. (The double entendre w/ naked is damn frightening--that boy's skin is as blue as skim milk, and I imagine one must have developed very specific tastes to want to see more of Jamie).

And the decorating shows have arrived--there is, in fact, a 24-hr decorating channel. We just got BBC America last month--you'll be pleased to know there's a US version of that show where neighbors redo each others' houses. The penchant for animal prints seems to transcend cultural boundaries, apparently. And can somebody explain the Funny Awards to me? It's shown all the goddam time.

Oh, us wacky Americans... On public TV (the highbrow commercial-free network, greatly loved by the earnest middlebrow) they've been showing reruns of "Are You Being Served" for years. Now, that's kultcher!

Helayne H-B, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

American stereotype number 38,293 lives!

Robin Carmody, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

four years pass...
boobage.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link

there's something about a voluptuous, raven-haired woman cramming cake into her face that makes me weak at the leg-hinges. oh boy.

good cookbooks too.

guanoman (mister the guanoman), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Seconding the recommendation for her cookbooks. They aren't bad at all.

Plus, I think she treacherous enough to knife Rachael Ray in the back if given a chance. Therefore, classic.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Still better than the Hairy Bikers.

LBC's Steve Allen good morning I'm afraid (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 10:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I used to get hatemail off people for starting this thread. Maybe people still send it to the dead Demon account I had, I don't know. "You brits are such jealous losers" and suchlike. I guess she made it to the st8s after all. And she has "a cheast to die for", is "the best piece of fanny on TV" etc etc.

For all she looks a bit over made up and blowsy in the pic, I kind of fancy her a bit. Sorry.

The Plastic Fork (Pashmina), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 10:29 (sixteen years ago) link

No need to apologise for fancying Nigella

The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 10:30 (sixteen years ago) link

She needs to stop pretending that she's happy or getting sex.

LBC's Steve Allen good morning I'm afraid (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 10:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I had first hand dealings with her some years ago and I'm afraid she was deeply unpleasant. I'm saying nothing more.

LBC's Steve Allen good morning I'm afraid (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 10:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I love Nigella so much. Her books are the only ones I have where I don't need to use my special cheese, chocolate, cream or wine rule (double it), because she clearly has the same rule.

I know, right?, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 10:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Marcello, you tease, spill the beans (borlotti beans that is, hoho).

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 10:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Offline, perhaps, but not on here.

LBC's Steve Allen good morning I'm afraid (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 10:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Can't fucking stand her television commercials for Twinings here.

its cool bro i'm a rugby league player (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 11:12 (sixteen years ago) link

never read her books, but in the tv programmes all her ingredients seem to come out of jars, and her breathless manner is SO annoying. it's only an artichoke, you're not going to have sex with it.

i once read an interview with her where she asserted 'all this stuff about food miles is nonsense' and that no great fresh produce is grown in this country so cooks are obliged to import everything.

and she's a tory cnut.

Dave from Norwich, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 11:15 (sixteen years ago) link

I note that the NZ Women's Weekly refers to her as "ever so saucy."

In 2008.

LBC's Steve Allen good morning I'm afraid (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 11:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Double points deducted if it's meant to be a cookery pun.

LBC's Steve Allen good morning I'm afraid (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 11:17 (sixteen years ago) link

"i have some 19 year old friends"

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/20/article-1058576-02BA37AF00000578-344_224x365.jpg

yungblut, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 11:35 (sixteen years ago) link

would smash

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 15:11 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

god so annoying, particularly with her fake multi-ethnic friends.

Neil S, Monday, 15 December 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

are they not really her friends or are they in blackface?

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 15 December 2008 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I suspect both.

Neil S, Monday, 15 December 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Has she killed them, skinned them and worn them as a trophy yet?

This really was a WTF moment when I read it last week.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 09:19 (fifteen years ago) link

She was looking pretty hungry, and she had a glint in her eye that suggested mere lamb tagine would not satisfy her.

Neil S, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 09:47 (fifteen years ago) link

that interview is seriously one of the worst things i have ever read:

Across the train corridor, two men are trying to appear to be trying not to listen. One of them is a fresh-faced lad from Wales, the other an elderly, mid-European intellectual wearing Armani glasses. The train stops. We are in the Channel tunnel. This is not good. I tell her I carry diazepam in case of terrorist attack: would she like some? She offers me Xanax. The elderly intellectual offers us something he has from his doctor in France. The man from Wales looks horrified. We all decline each other's offers. The train moves on.

Phonetic Elvis. (stevie), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 12:40 (fifteen years ago) link

This would explain why she always looks so happy. That, and rolling around in piles of Charles Saatchi's cash.

Neil S, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 12:43 (fifteen years ago) link

And extreme self-satisfaction.

Neil S, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 12:43 (fifteen years ago) link

"I get an immense sense of happiness from the instruction "pre-heat the oven at gas mark 6""

... or something.

(Marcello's "unpleasant" upthread does not surprise me at all)

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 12:49 (fifteen years ago) link

(Actually, my favourite was "Tuck in you lot, I'm off to make some tomato relish in the kitchen. Because you're all so FUCKING interesting, I'd rather sit in the kitchen ON MY OWN and chop ONIONS Dammit!")

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 12:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I can imagine being her husband, waking up slightly hungover on a Sunday morning and hoping for a bit of solace, only to find she was downstairs in the kitchen angrily baking muffins with the Archers omnibus coming full blast out of a pink Roberts radio. In Cath Kidson pyjamas.

bham, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 13:28 (fifteen years ago) link

they have radios in pyjamas now?

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 13:37 (fifteen years ago) link

She's also single again. Perhaps I might pop round to offer her some spiritual support.
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Classy.

Go Go Padgett Binoculars (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 13:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Chas Saatchi was pretty quick off the mark too, if you're not fast, you're last

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link

It had been going on for some considerable time before JD went.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Lifestyles of the Rich and Irksome

Neil S, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link

naked anti-semitism. fuck the haters.

special guest stars mark bronson, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Er...

Neil S, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 13:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Y'what?

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Unless I find out she inherited all her vocabulary's adjectives from some rich, dead guy, I'm always going to love her.

Eric H., Tuesday, 16 December 2008 13:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Yep, it was Winston Churchill.

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link

she inherited all her looks from her dad.

get that pion down you son (Frogman Henry), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 14:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Except she looks like her mother

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 14:18 (fifteen years ago) link

who looks like her husband.

uh-oh, here come the killers..

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't get what's so objectionable about her or that interview.

akm, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link

The interview? Cheesy as hell.

Her? I have no great feeling either way.

The bit about how she never watches her show, I can imagine it would be extraordinarily embarassing. If it was me, like.

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I saw half of some nigella's christmas cookery program, my dear wife was watching it on iplayer. Not having seen her on tv for years, I was amazed at how far into self parody she's sunk, tossing her head from side to side while she's orating so much that you'd think she's got some kind of nervous complaint, the prose when describing the food so purple that it's almost lovecraftian in places. In addition, the camera operator still can't decide where to point the camera, has difficulty holding focus, and often has some out-of focus blobby thing in the foreground, a kitchen tap or something, in the way. She is obnoxiously bossy, and seems to like to tell you what to think about stuff. Very annoying. She should be given an electric shock every time she uses the word "sensuous" or "sensuously".

I bailed as she described the grapes she was preparing for the party she was holding for her media-y friends as hanging in a wantion manner, ready to be debauched like s.th out of a roman orgy. Gack. The worst bit was when she was sending out the invites for her christmas party, and the camera panned across the table so you could read the replies, I mean for fuck's sake. I found myself ranting at the computer screen. When they showed the party, one of the guests was the ubiquitous stereotypical lifestyle tv media guy, bald head and big oblong thick framed spectacles. Apparently, there was a cutesy bit later, with Nigella pretending to be hungover post-party and preparing hangover cure food.

I think what annoyed me most about the program was that it was blatantly an ADVERT. I mean, you couldn't actually cook this food from watching this program, I you're going to have to buy her book. I'm surprised there wasn't an amazon url flashing up across the bottom of the screen. Like all adverts, the presentation was dishonest, the colours seemingly having been saturated in post-production to make the food look more appealing. I thought the bbc wasn't supposed to show adverts. There did seem to be a biot of product-placemet too, the camera lingering on some piece of fancy cookware, Nigella holding up some tin of cocoa powder so you could read the brand, bleh.

I'm sure I remember her being OK at somepoint in the past, before she became celebrity cook wench. I'm sure I remember her talking interestingly about books on some TV review program. Look at her now, bloody celebrity culture.

(off now to just quickly toss some leg of pork (take a look at the brand, no M&S shite for me) into this (branded) cook pot mm smell the heady aroma, cinnamon and liquorice mmm heady heady sensual sensuous debauched ravish blah blah blah blah blaRGHh)

mu-mu (Pashmina), Sunday, 20 December 2009 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

The food still looks tasty though, I've got to admit that.

mu-mu (Pashmina), Sunday, 20 December 2009 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link

why is this on ILM, exactly?

iago g., Sunday, 20 December 2009 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link

as does *puts on sunglasses* the presenter

xp

Dean Gaffney's December (history mayne), Sunday, 20 December 2009 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link

it predates the ILM/ILE spilt

mu-mu (Pashmina), Sunday, 20 December 2009 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link

ok thks

iago g., Sunday, 20 December 2009 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link

i think she's utterly repellent. i'm with dom on this, though - jamie eoliver is the best tv chef the UK has ever produced.

who can forget snrub tv? (stevie), Sunday, 20 December 2009 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I thought the bbc wasn't supposed to show adverts. There did seem to be a biot of product-placemet too, the camera lingering on some piece of fancy cookware, Nigella holding up some tin of cocoa powder so you could read the brand, bleh.

what is the current bbc stance on product placement like this?

NI, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 01:43 (fourteen years ago) link

classic boobage.

scott seward, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 01:46 (fourteen years ago) link

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Cosmic Ugg (S-), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 02:25 (fourteen years ago) link

You mean http://www.kontraband.com/videos/15285/Nigellas-XXXmas/

OK, I laughed...

Mark G, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 07:15 (fourteen years ago) link

.. next year's xmas number one.

Mark G, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 07:17 (fourteen years ago) link

This is rather good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L57BcmGB-E0

The reverse TARDIS of pasta (Niles Caulder), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 10:28 (fourteen years ago) link

its true you cant really cook anything after watching her programme (not exactly instructional) but does anyone really watch it for that? i loved j.olivers american cooking series and i dont know if i could have cooked anything after watching those either. these shows are just cookery/food porn. or actual milf porn in nigellas case.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 11:02 (fourteen years ago) link

three years pass...

classic

lex pretend, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link

lol

Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link

There was a lot of talk about what Dominic Lawson hears in Skylarking. I recall him being very christian on tv and I wonder how he could miss the lyrics of "Dear God". He routinely agued so poorly on tv that I ended up feeling sorry for him.

I recall Nigella being offended when Jonathan Ross criticized the camera work on her show being all over the place. I have no interest in cooking shows or books and I dont know anything about her politics but she is lovely.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 21:37 (ten years ago) link

she seems really cool

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link

she's welcome in the US any time, we're sending back jamie oliver, though

mh, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 22:46 (ten years ago) link

You'd probably die if you did lines on her boobs.

Le passé, non seulement n'est pas fugace, il reste sur place (Michael White), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 22:51 (ten years ago) link

Absolutely adore Nigella.

mums go off when i enter the building (monotony), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 22:53 (ten years ago) link

I've made some of her recipes or used them as the basis for dishes.

Le passé, non seulement n'est pas fugace, il reste sur place (Michael White), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link

Her vocabulary is enviable. And I like the way she sort of trolls viewers with some recipes.

My mum made a cake of hers once that required an entire 400g tub of nutella.

mums go off when i enter the building (monotony), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link

That sounds like it'd be a super classy version of Sandra Lee's Kwanzaa cake.

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:15 (ten years ago) link

400g tub of Nutella and a massive bag of cocaine.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link

i made a chocolate cake from a recipe of hers once that the four mac lads couldnt finish (a first), it turned into that scene from matilda but without mrs trunchbull to but a bit of smacht on us

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link

if she's been doing coke daily for a decade then that just makes how great she looks for 55 or whatever age she is all the more shocking.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:22 (ten years ago) link

plus i'll have to revise my idyllic fantasy of marrying her to include cocaine in it.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:22 (ten years ago) link

that interview is seriously one of the worst things i have ever read:

Across the train corridor, two men are trying to appear to be trying not to listen. One of them is a fresh-faced lad from Wales, the other an elderly, mid-European intellectual wearing Armani glasses. The train stops. We are in the Channel tunnel. This is not good. I tell her I carry diazepam in case of terrorist attack: would she like some? She offers me Xanax. The elderly intellectual offers us something he has from his doctor in France. The man from Wales looks horrified. We all decline each other's offers. The train moves on.

― Phonetic Elvis. (stevie), Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:40 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This would explain why she always looks so happy. That, and rolling around in piles of Charles Saatchi's cash.

― Neil S, Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:43 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

prescient

famous for hits! (seandalai), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link

Man from Wales had done a few Es.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:28 (ten years ago) link

thx guys, now i won't be able to sleep for contemplating Nigella/boobs/rails

i like the jabberwock and it likes me (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:30 (ten years ago) link

welcome to my world

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link

Nigella was on a TV programme this year or last with Tony Bourdain, another "reformed" and "now-sober" cokehead... I can imagine they were both nostril deep in the green room before each day's shoot.

She still didn't deserve to be throttled in public by that dolt of a husband she has.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:35 (ten years ago) link

plus i'll have to revise my idyllic fantasy of marrying her to include cocaine in it.

lol

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link

Would like to see how she behaves in full Tony Montana mode.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:38 (ten years ago) link

"say hello to my sizeable friends"

i like the jabberwock and it likes me (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:40 (ten years ago) link

ok i'm going to bed before i fp myself

i like the jabberwock and it likes me (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:40 (ten years ago) link

Say hello to my little flan

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link

ok i'm going to bed before i fp myself

I completely misread this at first

Le passé, non seulement n'est pas fugace, il reste sur place (Michael White), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:42 (ten years ago) link

first you get the honey, then you get the flour

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:43 (ten years ago) link

Michael I think you read it right tbf

۩, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:44 (ten years ago) link

How much of a drug fiend do you Brits think she actually is/was? It doesn't sound like her accusers are particularly reputable.

Le passé, non seulement n'est pas fugace, il reste sur place (Michael White), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:46 (ten years ago) link

The idea of her doing coke with her daughter is pretty great too, really proves that the close-knit family thing isn't just for the cameras.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:47 (ten years ago) link

Not that I'd be surprised if she was a coke-fiend, but I'd bet money that this story coming to light is the doing of her abusive ex-husband. Another method of control now she's out.

emil.y, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link

What did she do before she was a celebrity chef? She has to come from some money if her dad was a Tory minister.

Le passé, non seulement n'est pas fugace, il reste sur place (Michael White), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:54 (ten years ago) link

It's to do with a court case taken by allegedly thieving employees, they claim she let them spend big bucks in exchange for silence to the husband over her drug use. I think it'd be in his interests not to smear her but there's an email leaked in which he gets annoyed about the drug use fucking up the case.

Suppose it could all be a complicated ruse.

xpost

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link

emil.y otm. this sounds like bullshit to me and it sounds like her husband trying to maintain some control. she kept a drug habit quiet for 10 years? 'mon ta fuck

subaltern 8 (Michael B), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:59 (ten years ago) link

To be fair coke one of the more surreptitious addictions to harbour.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link

How much of a drug fiend do you Brits think she actually is/was?

There were stories on popbitch back in the day, but I question the source. She seemed crazy fucked up throughout the production of her last TV show in the UK - like, glazed and slurring her speech - but considering what a dickhole she was married to then, who can judge her for self-medicating?

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 07:45 (ten years ago) link

i don't think self-medication is a matter for judgement in any circumstances

Noodle of the Vague family (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 07:49 (ten years ago) link

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Twelve Years a Sock (buzza), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 07:57 (ten years ago) link

yeah i have been aware of his work for a few weeks

Noodle of the Vague family (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 08:01 (ten years ago) link

bless you, good man

Twelve Years a Sock (buzza), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 08:03 (ten years ago) link

emil.y otm - saatchi also made a new statement about the drug use as well as the email. there's an insinuation that it was behind his abuse of her as well, so a nasty means of self-justification as well.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 08:29 (ten years ago) link

gosh, she is looking more and more like her dad going by that photo

space bl00ps (NickB), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 08:43 (ten years ago) link

Jeez not even a gajillionaire successful highly educated and intelligent woman gets any agency or credit for making her own choices from the usuals huh, way 2 patronise

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 09:05 (ten years ago) link

i don't think self-medication is a matter for judgement in any circumstances

hmm. its possible I wasn't advocating judging self-medication in any circumstances either, but do enjoy that high horse.

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 09:18 (ten years ago) link

Cmon stevie your arse is 75% elevated saddle itself by now surely

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 09:21 (ten years ago) link

i wasn't having a pop i was just saying, further to what you said, that people don't need to justify these things

Noodle of the Vague family (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 09:22 (ten years ago) link

like i don't think anybody here wd be tut-tutting even if she didn't have a scumbag ex-husband to "drive her to it"

Noodle of the Vague family (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 09:24 (ten years ago) link

apols nv, was being oversensitive
and dmac my point was, the horse is mine, there isn't room for two up here

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 09:37 (ten years ago) link

Heh

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 09:39 (ten years ago) link

This whole thing seems exceptionally bitter and nasty even without taking into account the two people who may or may not have defrauded/blackmailed her.

TBF Nigella is probably the one British female celebrity outside the music industry who would be able to get away with disclosing a giant cocaine habit. Her entire mass appeal is based on being able to get away with things that other women typically aren't "allowed" to do by mass media standards. That may not extend to cocaine use in Daily Mail land but I suspect the public reaction will veer on the side of sympathetic unless there are worse revelations to come.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 09:46 (ten years ago) link

i just realised this is on ilm not ile, bizarrely

given yesterday's news i'd be surprised if anyone had moral outrage left over for a coke habit

lex pretend, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 09:55 (ten years ago) link

Well, as I said on the other thread, Ian W picked a good day to admit.

Mark G, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 10:05 (ten years ago) link

tried googling up this Higella reference. I didn't understand it. Was this some classic literary character in some book I missed? Finally realized they meant "High-gella".

peace on earth and mercy mild (how's life), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 10:10 (ten years ago) link

Isn't Saatchi on the side of the prosecution here? Sounds like he's kinda trying to smear and also win the case:

"At the time of sending the email I was completely astonished by the alleged scale of the drug use set out in the statements. Nevertheless I did believe the allegations. I have been asked whether it referred to a belief that Nigella permitted the Grillos to spend whatever they liked. On reflection I was simply speculating the sisters would use this material to defend themselves."

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 10:12 (ten years ago) link

everyone in this story bar nigella sounds pretty terrible tbh

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 10:16 (ten years ago) link

Joy Lo Dico ‏@joy_lo_dico 3m
Top detail in Mail's Nigella story: PAs first claimed Saatchi asked them to spend 'stolen' money buying copies of his book to boost rankings

lex pretend, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 10:23 (ten years ago) link

Finally realized they meant "High-gella".

"High yella high red high blue she blew
High Ella high Ella Guru"

(well this is an ILM thread)

Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 10:54 (ten years ago) link

Can't believe this story would elicit any response other than "hot damn wouldn't it be fun to do coke with nigella lawson". Joyless fucks

Windsor Davies, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 11:10 (ten years ago) link

"LET'S OPEN A RESTAURANT TOGETHER"

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 11:15 (ten years ago) link

HEY LET'S FILM IT RIGHT HERE!

Mark G, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 11:23 (ten years ago) link

A few years ago either the Daily Mail or the Daily Express (hard to tell the bastards apart sometimes) tried character assassination stuff calling her show "porn", but I dont think there were enough readers who cared for it to amount to anything.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 15:32 (ten years ago) link

or "thought it was a bad thing"

Mark G, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link

Disappointed groan and turning to read something else probably a quite natural reaction to discovering that contrary to headlines Nigella Lawson hadn't actually being making pr0n.

Windsor Davies, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link

there will be a groan but in some cases it won't be disappointment its expressing if you get me

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link

The Daily Mail has always been pretty terrible towards her iirc (not that I follow these things but somewhat bizzarely my wife is vaguely related to her so I get told about this stuff)

space bl00ps (NickB), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link

Did any of the papers go for a BAKING BAD headline or are standards slipping?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link

Read someone's Metro front page on the tube today (several years Metro-free) and the headline was "The great British baked toff". Hate the game but you have to say someone's earned their corn there.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02747/nigella-today_2747054c.jpg

i award this paparazzo 1x coconut

r|t|c, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link

"Yeah, fackin' chemist's is shut innit. Any chance o' some fackin' blow to tide me over?"

Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link

a friend just posted this

http://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1468521_10153533563695257_1339663478_n.jpg

funny cuz it's the first, will prob be sick of a million similar images by next week

lex pretend, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link

genuinely shocked by the degree to which the right wing tabloid press are going to bat for saatchi in this story

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Thursday, 28 November 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link

bonus points for the 'trose loyalty card xp

r|t|c, Thursday, 28 November 2013 19:02 (ten years ago) link

the Beeb seem to be enjoying all the salacious details more than i'd expect, too

Noodle of the Vague family (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 November 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link

xposts What, for Saatchi as in "Labour isn't working" Saatchi&Saatchi?

Mark G, Thursday, 28 November 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BaEGtu-CEAASmGj.jpg:large

paolo, Friday, 29 November 2013 11:58 (ten years ago) link

properly vile and hateful piece in the Torygraph today. Stephen Fry once said on Tv of the writer of said piece that she 'makes me want to vomit'.

piscesx, Friday, 29 November 2013 15:50 (ten years ago) link

how did this thread get on ILM? not that i'm not enjoying it! remember to have a bump or two with that leftover turkey sandwich, people!

Iago Galdston, Friday, 29 November 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link

The thread was originally posted just before the creation of ILE, in part prompted by non-music threads like this one.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 November 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link

every poster eventually reaches that curious age when they start to wonder how ILE was created...

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Friday, 29 November 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link

wow, this is like the "lucy" of ILM threads, deep strata!

Iago Galdston, Friday, 29 November 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link

Many have speculated that all ilx boards spring forth from one i love lucy board back in the mists of time

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Friday, 29 November 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link

So, after this has been in all the papers as a result of something Charles Saatchi said in court, Charles Saatchi says in court he's never seen Nigella take drugs, would have no evidence to indicate she has and only doesn't know what to believe because of all the rumours. Glad that's clear.

Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Friday, 29 November 2013 16:35 (ten years ago) link

Meanwhile, admitted drug user Richard Bacon gets to host top ITV daytime quiz Show Me The Telly.

That could admittedly be interpreted as punishment.

Many have speculated that all ilx boards spring forth from one i love lucy board back in the mists of time
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac),

I was referring to that earliest human specimen "lucy" but ILLucy is so much better

Iago Galdston, Friday, 29 November 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link

xpost why, what have we done to have to suffer so?

Mark G, Friday, 29 November 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link

lisa o'carroll ‏@lisaocarroll 3m
QC to Nigella:"When you unfortunately separated from Mr Saatchi..." Nigella interjected: "I wouldn't say 'unfortunately'."

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:53 (ten years ago) link

Zingin' it from the witness stand

Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:55 (ten years ago) link

good for her, i completely believe her description of this past long summer.

estela, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 13:05 (ten years ago) link

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there it is, what the papers have all been hanging on for.

Mark G, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link

what what what?

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link

Smokin' weed in front of her kiddies

Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link

As well as snorting coke like a madwoman

Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link

By the way, this nonsense is the lead story on the BBC website, fuck yer licence fee, ya cunts

Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link

i still don't understand what any of this has to do with the two women who swindled her

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link

lol who

New York City Garden(?) (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link

can we fucking destroy the entire media plz

veneer timber (imago), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link

where's the smoking weed bit?

a beef supreme (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 16:27 (ten years ago) link

smokin weed rules

New York City Garden(?) (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 16:27 (ten years ago) link

just wonderin how much money will be earned by journos and columnists right now penning lucrative reponses to nigella's cocaine hell, and how much of that money will itself be spent on cocaine

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link

smokin weed rules

― New York City Garden(?) (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, December 4, 2013 4:27 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

TB

a beef supreme (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link

i still don't understand what any of this has to do with the two women who swindled her

Because of a specific email allegation that Saatchi made that was directly related to the case and brought up in court.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 16:45 (ten years ago) link

"She claimed the incident was actually sparked when she commented on a person walking by with a baby.

"I said 'I'm so looking forward to having grandchildren'," Ms Lawson told the court.

"He grabbed me by the throat and said 'I'm the only person you should be concerned with'."

This is her claim as to what happened at the restaurant. True, jury savvy or too clever?

Le passé, non seulement n'est pas fugace, il reste sur place (Michael White), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 16:47 (ten years ago) link

too weird not to be true imo.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link

Yeah. Whereas his "I grabbed her by the throat so I could get some cocaine out of her nose" strikes me as too weird to be true.

Le passé, non seulement n'est pas fugace, il reste sur place (Michael White), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link

She said it in the same way as she'd say "I do love sprinkling garlic into my cheesecake flan"

and he said "Will you stop talking like that?"

Mark G, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link

If anyone here knows anyone who bought one of Saatchi's interminable stream of books, please groinkick them

veneer timber (imago), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link

Saatchi kept money 'in the fridge' and never uses credit cards. what's the benefit of that? serious question.

piscesx, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link

Jeremy Irons should play Saatchi in the eventual movie version of this.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 5 December 2013 00:09 (ten years ago) link

https://vine.co/v/hxnwlJj6WV6

<3

lex pretend, Thursday, 5 December 2013 12:20 (ten years ago) link

http://instagram.com/p/hipvMFEugL/

Matt DC, Thursday, 5 December 2013 13:25 (ten years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BaqRjv4CcAAxLIk.jpg:large

in stoke newington obviously

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 December 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Grillos acquitted, which means that Nigella might have committed perjury over the last couple of weeks?

Matt DC, Friday, 20 December 2013 13:07 (ten years ago) link

Was there proof that she was lying or were the Grillos acquitted just cos there wasn't enough evidence either way?

stellar toum sauce (NickB), Friday, 20 December 2013 13:12 (ten years ago) link

yeah, muddying the water isn't the same as proving somebody a liar

the five people you meet in Hedon (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 December 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link

Good work, Cameron

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Friday, 20 December 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link

Birds of a feather though, eh? Knowwhatimean?

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Friday, 20 December 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link

YOU MEAN DRUGS

the five people you meet in Hedon (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 December 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link

It won't stand up in court... it's a miracle Nigella did, knowwhatime... oh stop it

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Friday, 20 December 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link

I ask a question I feel sure he’ll dodge: about the trial of two of Charles Saatchi’s former housemaids and the revelation that his ex-wife, Nigella Lawson, used cocaine. Her fans have rushed to her defence: ‘Team Nigella’ is used as a hashtag on Twitter and even sprayed on city walls. So when I ask “Are you on Team Nigella?” I expect him to stay out of it. Instead, he offers a direct answer.

http://orderorder.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/dave.jpg

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 20 December 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link

This fuggin guy

UK Cop Humour (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 21 December 2013 15:08 (ten years ago) link

is it me, or does all this shit about "Team Nigella" imply the existence of "Team Domestic Violence"??

the five people you meet in Hedon (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 December 2013 16:34 (ten years ago) link

Saatchi has been raked over the goals in the Times and Sunday Times. They are reporting that he tried to arrange for drug allegations to go in to both papers months ago on the condition his role was kept a secret.

Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Sunday, 22 December 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link

Hey uk folks, I don't get what she's in trouble for? This can't just be about her recreational drug use??

the whirlwind labeouf, i inhale it (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 22 December 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link

Yes it can.

Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Sunday, 22 December 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link

The Mail have dedicated their front page to 'Saatchi's plot to use daughter to ruin Nigella' so it looks like even the moralist right thinks worse of him than her.

Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Sunday, 22 December 2013 14:45 (ten years ago) link

so they were acquitted because nigella is presumed to have been off her face on cocaine & weed 24/7 and so couldn't reliably say whether she had or had not authorised them to spend hundreds of thousands of pounds on her CC?

=(3 Ɛ)= (cozen), Sunday, 22 December 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link

^their argument ws that nigella authorised the spending so they'd hide her drug use from saatchi. makes more sense

=(3 Ɛ)= (cozen), Sunday, 22 December 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link

their argument was that they weren't fraudsters they were blackmailers?

pandemic, Sunday, 22 December 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link

they were acquitted because they'd muddied the waters sufficiently that it couldn't be proven either way iirc

if you're happy and you know it, it's false consciousness (c sharp major), Sunday, 22 December 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link

and came close to unseating the PM

Mark G, Sunday, 22 December 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link

from the kick off i thought Saatchi must be out of his mind thinking he could drag Nigella down considering her national treasure status, it reminds me of Heather Mills trying to take down Macca and coming a cropper.

piscesx, Sunday, 22 December 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link

She's going to come through this without taking major hit points? I haven't been paying close attention.

millions now living will never kick out the jams (WilliamC), Sunday, 22 December 2013 17:18 (ten years ago) link

I really hope she does. And I hope Saatchi is profoundly damaged by it all.

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Sunday, 22 December 2013 22:19 (ten years ago) link

Saatchi clearly called in favours all over the media for this, but everybody irl still thinks he's a cockroach. w/e about Nigella really.

UK Cop Humour (Bananaman Begins), Sunday, 22 December 2013 23:46 (ten years ago) link

he has made himself look even worse and her more sympathetic but i expect he is too much of a bully to understand that.

estela, Monday, 23 December 2013 00:09 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

I'm watching The Taste on Hulu - she's terrrrrrible.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 5 April 2014 03:09 (ten years ago) link


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