paramore - after laughter - recording and anticipation

we need a new thread for this.

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any dates for this?

it's expected to come out early next year

justin mendal-jonsen is producing again. zac farro on drums

❤️❤️❤️

meldal-johnsen* lol

:D

bummed about farro tbh, rubin on drums was so A++

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsdhY8nWcAARfZc.jpg

https://www.instagram.com/p/BKZMPmqAQc1/

(done with recording in Nashville)

Hope those are the only instruments they used.

Hayley Williams on Vox and Electric Nipper

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Csfi2qiWYAAzgFV.jpg

Well, I can't identify every instrument in this pile, but at the very least those must have been some well-amplified congos.

those are all just big hat boxes imo

question for paramore expert: what i can expect of this album based purely off the hair colour

She was blonde for parts of the "Brand New Eyes" era, so..

https://twitter.com/yelyahwilliams/status/774056755370131457

hayley from ParamoreVerified account
‏@yelyahwilliams
@katieee03 this is just my "off time" hair lol... Keeping a blank slate for now!

Can't believe I actually went and looked into that tbh. I'm sure she'll come up with something interesting when it comes time to actually promote the album.

https://twitter.com/paramore/status/801463457451278336

Finished with the L.A. portions of the album?

https://twitter.com/yelyahwilliams/status/824692432604397569

@jeffgliponeo

are you guys 90% done with 5more? say something.

@yelyahwilliams

91%

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Is this going to be insanely ott/ambitious

Coz they can't pull out of the trajectory now

zac farro officially back in the band

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQBYXlIjkKo/

that seems like a big deal

i guess ilan rubin might be a better drummer technically than farro but farro's work has a pretty specific personality that i missed on the s/t initially. his fills on "ignorance" are wild imo

also idk what happened but his playing generally leveled-up on brand new eyes in every way imo, all of those drum tracks are furious

Drumming on "ignorance" is insane good.

yeah, his drumming helps make that record, along with that big overblown production that for some reason I hated on every other '00s rock record except that one

They realized a two person band would look a little underwhelming on the cover.

lol

aren't they a couple though, that opens up absurdly cutesy/nauseating/lovely possibilities

?

The two dudes are so cute.

hayley is married to chad gilbert from new found glory. she dated josh farro back in the day and the breakup went horribly and that's what brand new eyes is about and it's why the farro brothers left the band

xpost

:/

I don't think they'd cover up the end of a romantic relationship by saying really mean things about how Hayley ran and controlled the band (and also how unchristian she was) so I doubt that's why they left the band.

I don't think they'd cover up the end of a romantic relationship by saying really mean things about how Hayley ran and controlled the band (and also how unchristian she was)

oh yeah i'm realllly abbreviating history there but idk i think a huge reason they left is that literally every lyric on brand new eyes is kinda like "fuck u josh"

also from what i remember about it at the time the farro bros "we're leaving the band" letter was super like... terrible bad faith shit

tbh maybe my idea of why they left was baseless speculation at the time and i've just carried that in my head for so long that i thought it was true so nm

I didn't follow the personal drama b/c I'm too old and indifferent but the fact they made their best album without those dudes has gotta burn a little. Paramore was good precisely because it was the kind of record they probably couldn't have made with two devout Warped Tour loyalists in the band

Reminds me--on a much, much larger scale--of what happened with Q and Not U back in the day. They were a good band, then they dumped their bassist and made a big show of how they'd dumped their bassist and it really seemed to energize them and open the door to all sorts of new possibilities. This was like that but on more of a Fleetwood Mac scale

xp I think the lyrics point to that intimate conflict and also more generally about the tension in the band, sometimes specifically so ("I can't believe we almost hung it up", and then some of them did, but the album pretends they can move on as long as the last jabs are hers (re 'fuck u josh' and maybe 'fuck you zac and, jeremy, and i'm not so great either (but taylor seems like he's always been the nice guy))

Echoing the love for Farro's BNE drums and hope there's some aggression on the new album to make use of them

xp I think the lyrics point to that intimate conflict and also more generally about the tension in the band, sometimes specifically so ("I can't believe we almost hung it up", and then some of them did, but the album pretends they can move on as long as the last jabs are hers (re 'fuck u josh' and maybe 'fuck you zac and, jeremy, and i'm not so great either (but taylor seems like he's always been the nice guy))

yeah this is a more accurate portrait of what's going on in that record

The way she prods at and questions her faith in the band and Faith in general on BNE in a really aggressive way, like some hurt T Rex, over these machine gun drums and pop punk emo makes it one of my favorite _pop_ albums in general, so full of drama.

Yeah it's funny how the ostensibly very positive lyrics on "Looking Up" - at least when appearing on the same album as "Ignorance" and "Playing God" and "Feeling Sorry" - can come off as really patronising and dismissive.

i don't think i realized before how indebted "turn it off" is to jimmy eat world's "work"

Music video shoot:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7BklLwWcAACzaF.jpg:large

New half-hour Hayley Williams interview:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzBkZHSDfj_ocW0yZjdsa0x6dTg/view

aaron weiss from mewithoutyou is on this record

xp: Just got done listening to that interview. No new album news in it.

https://www.facebook.com/paramore/photos/a.283859034962.37392.5388374962/10150877956544963/?type=3&theater

And now this:

https://twitter.com/upsetmagazine/status/854214441218527232?s=09

New single tomorrow

Also means these songs will likely be on the album, from the ASCAP leak

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C64x0vPXUAAo1lK.jpg

I guess tomorrow means today

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!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEB6ibtdPZc

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MAY 12

hmmm

both the cover and single are certainly doing a lot of things

sorry for the hugeness of the uh.. hideous album art

paramore, the vintage contemporaries edition

It seems like they made this song in a shameless effort to get me to like them. I'd say it only kinda worked, but I don't hate it.

Oh shit! Yes!

wow they really went for it with that video

some nice sounds but it's a bit weak compared to the perfect synth emo rush of the singles on the s/t?

first single from the s/t was "now" so i'd say it was less than perfect

i was at first weirded out by the amount of empty space in it but now i've listened to it 500000 times so i no longer have perspective

V much into this

This slams.

thinking about this as it relates to "now," where a band that slipped into being a new wave emo trio wanted to reconnect to their past and write an older, rockier paramore song and the final construction is a really awkward frankenstein's monster, whereas this seems to push what they were doing on "ain't it fun" into a space where there are even fewer obvious referents to rock and emo

also taylor york really loves writing those spiky, fractional guitar riffs that would be marginalia or embellishment in other bands songs and centering them

been hearing a lot of songs with either lackluster or missing bridges lately so i'd like to give it up for the bridge in this song, especially the weird synth/strings(?) tremble

(i can't really say much but) from what i've heard they're really going for it with this album

First thoughts listening to the song:

1. This is wonderful
2. I don't want to hear a whole album of this

It lays it on quite thick. And guessing from the album cover it's not a one-off :/

first single from the s/t was "now" so i'd say it was less than perfect

"Now" ruled, and it was kind of a perfect lead single to the extent that there really was no one, completely representative song from that album, so you might as well just toss something quick and striking out there. ("Ain't It Fun" was the album's takeaway single, but it wouldn't have been as big of a hit if it had been released first; it needed time).

Anyway, so I'd been hoping "Hard Times" would be like "Now," a one-off stylistic tangent on another album filled with them. But that cover screams "nah we're all in on this lol Duran Duran vibe."

"now" ruling is revisionist history, much as i've grown to like it ok contextually bc the album hanging around it rules

feel like i'm more likely to hear "still into you" than "ain't it fun" in the wild in 2017 but this is based on anecdotal evidence

In my experience, it's the reverse.

I'm hoping for a variety of styles on the album as well.

also i hate to be like "read the tea leaves to determine the mood of the record" but that ascap leak upthread implies aaron weiss is on this record and i can't imagine him sing-talking over exposé's "point of no return"

something about this new song is reminding me of foals at their poppiest (i.e. my number)

album cover is the long lost single art for amy grant's "hats" y/n

Foals comparison otm, though Foals never quite pushed the sound into shtick territory the way this song (also video, album cover) does

foals never wrote a song this good let's all relax

I was in love with "Now" at first exposure, because I kinda dug dance-punk back in the day, and the track pulled off the trick of improving on that style by adding some extra tension and mass, and putting a distinctive stamp on it with that very alterna-rock conclusion. Big song in a compact package, even if it was an odd singles choice.

I don't think this song improves on its inspirations in the same way, though it does personalize them in a similar way. Song seems strangely cynical in a way, like this is their attempt to "Uptown Funk" Dire Straits

If anything, I would say it's their attempt to "Get Lucky" the Talking Heads, but it's better than that imo.

foals never wrote a song this good let's all relax

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, April 19, 2017 7:42 AM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao otm

paramore, the vintage contemporaries edition

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:24 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSn2K3eciSc

Taylor York, can you stop being so hot

thx

I def doubt the whole album will sound same-y. Unless the band completely changed since s/t (I mean they have changed, Farro is back, even co-writing some tracks, but that certainly does not suggest everything sounding like this). Modern Paramore is very much a group that feels playful and eager to explore the border between pop and rock in all kinds of ways.

find it very difficult to not play air synths during that vocoder/synth phrase at the end of "hard times"

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/19/arts/music/paramore-hayley-williams-after-laughter-interview.html?_r=0

it's a pop album, my friends

Modern Paramore is very much a group that feels playful and eager to explore the border between pop and rock in all kinds of ways.

Yeah they're doing this better than anyone else. I see rock as a little more of a commodity rn, since so few are doing it well, but their past gambits have paid off so I'll happily take a pop album

Looks like I made a mistake reading the YouTube comments on "Hard Times." I forget the ideal of purity their most fervent fans believe in.

I want these sunglasses.

http://i.makeagif.com/media/4-19-2017/tzUSVz.gif

The only track of theirs I rep for is / ain't it fun / which is transcendent. However much I was ready to love this one, it seems to be missing some magic.

im obsessed w/ this song

Same. I heard it six times on the plane.

love this song

yeah I came around on listen 4 or so

last 45 seconds of this sounds like a robot version of shut up and let me go by the ting tings

this was very instant for me and it reminds me of something off the last La Roux album

Taylor York, can you stop being so hot

thx

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:38 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

His haircut reminds me of one of the NKOTB guys and he does some great mugging in the video.

Love this single. Am I the only one getting massive Alphabeat vibes from the song and video?

His haircut reminds me of one of the NKOTB guys and he does some great mugging in the video.

― how's life,

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I'd been thinking Jordan, actually, but I had remembered his hair as being curlier than it actuallly was.

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HARD
TIMES

XD

this is really good and yeah it sounds EXACTLY like Alphabeat's first album

Part one of an interview with Zane Lowe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Qb2qj58wQ

this maybe is an unfavorable comparison, but the track reminds of "You've Changed" by Sia (with Nick Valensi on guitars)

For no reason whatsoever this song and video both remind me of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3RpfKCPc00

So yeah this is their new sound and they're sticking to it. Another good track though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=189&v=yw-RPm1uOM4

I wonder if this is the track that's gonna get the bigger push on alt radio, while "Hard Times" goes for the top 40 spins

that song rules

paramore's de·pres·sion

So psyched for the album now.

these songs are produced really well. all the instruments are crisp.

they seem to be having fun. this is good

Hard Times went from 'ok' to 'great' after a day and I love this immediately

after staring lovingly at Taylor's mugging iirc

New one is good too. I haven't been a fan in the past but I definitely saw some of the appeal of the last album.

https://imgur.com/CuHNJL8 <3

I'm really enjoying the new song, but this part is nagging me a little.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEB6ibtdPZc&feature=youtu.be&t=3m3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw-RPm1uOM4&feature=youtu.be&t=2m40s

Uh, that isn't showing up for me. So what I was trying to point out was the similarity between the moments at about 2:40 in Told You So and 3:03 in Hard Times.

tbh i like that the songs seem to talk to each other

That's a good way to look at it.

*relistens to "told you so"* ugh this is magnificent

lol

Love "Told You So". This looks suddenly (and, to me anyway, unexpectedly) an album of the year contender.

i can't listen to anything else. what a brilliant song.

I love it when there's something my daughter and I can both enjoy. It's much preferable to nefarious tween marketing tweaks directing her to bullseye shit like Panic! At the Disco and Twenty One Pilots.

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Taylor looks like such a nice boyfriend.

Hey y’all.

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This album is fantastic. It's just the kind of album I needed in my life right now.

oh awesome! thought this wasn't out till summer for some reason.

Friday.

just when I thought this was their twist-free pop record, the penultimate track shows up

"Forgiveness" is either a blatant Haim lift or a working through of the same influences.

hayley has lately been enthusing about haim all over twitter fyi

Caramanica can't hide his sneer.

I was going to say, who needs a new Haim?

Two quick observations: drummer has some fallback hi-hat on the 2 and 4 beats, and guitarist really likes those little African-esque licks. Both of which work, to my ears.

yeah, lots of high life accents

"forgiveness" is easily the best song i've heard this year & will prob destroy anything on the haim album--and i love haim!

It's got sort of 1975 vibes about it, too. And, um, "Cherish." Lovely, though.

Fake Happy is my immediate favourite. I love how those synths come in after that misleading intro.

No Friend is the only one I'm not really into. I don't think they really pulled off what they were going for. It's the only misfire on the album though, everything else sounds so good.

think of "no friend" as a dark inverse coda to "idle worship" bc... well, it is, but i think those are the terms on which it works

Pool is my favourite at the moment, but the first seven tracks are all pretty fantastic

No Friend would probably be fine if it were like a minute, doesn't really need to be longer than the track it's an outro to

is that Taylor singing "No Friend"?

that is aaron weiss from the band mewithoutyou

http://nocountryfornewnashville.com/2017/05/11/review-paramore-5-10-17-at-exitin-photos/#more-84799

that setlist :)

i just filed my review so i feel like now i can say that i don't get caramanica's

i find it hard to get into these guys, a couple of amazing songs aside

I get the gist of Caramanica's review; he pretty much voices all of my initial reservations about this album (too schticky, a waste of a great rock singer). I do think the tone is off, though. He isn't really giving the band any credit for their range (he brushes off the s/t album), and seems to box them in with a style of music they aren't interested anymore. It shouldn't be any great shock that bands can evolve over 10 years

and using synths isn't a touchstone of '80s bands (also, after three listens, I don't hear an egregious use of synths; they're more for the occasional garnish).

a waste of a great rock singer

i think listening to the album basically dispatches this criticism

xpost Yeah, definitely seems more sophisti-pop.

first couple of listens and i'm not really feeling this at all. it did take a few plays for say-they-say-they-told-meeeyyy to get its hooks into me though

off the bat i'm liking idle worship, i like the tension in the vocals there

caught in the middle - wtf is this ace of base garbage?

I generally like Caramanica, but this line -- "some of her essential grit is lost to the machines" -- I mean, talk about your '80s revivalism. It's like reading Rolling Stone in 1983.

hard times

First listen to this, and it was really disheartening. I'm sure it will grow on me, because the songs are solid and Hayley brought her A game. But I find the whole Wedding Singer cosplay thing insufferably tacky, and all those brittle '80s polyrhythms just sound shitty and one-trick to me.

After two listens, I like the first few songs very much (which includes the two that had been released already), but I'm not hearing much in the way of hooks in the rest of it. Will continue to listen though.

y'know I really appreciate how few straight-up love songs HW writes

enjoying this on first listen

i take it the eh-eh-eh vocals and mention of 'hopeless places' on idle worship are a nod to rihanna?

Can we please get a Paramore/1975 world tour? Pretty please? :)

I think we should crowdfund brad a ticket for the cruise

this definitely falls off after Pool in a way the s/t didn't really despite being 20 minutes longer, but the good half of this sure is great

something about the way the chorus in Pool comes in gets me every time

I'm in!

xpost

i'd agree if i didn't love "caught in the middle" and "idle worship" at this point (also "tell me how" is their best closer imo). "grudges" is prob the only miss and it has a great bridge

xp

who or what is 'tell me how' about? (i am dim and haven't followed the band's history or relationships)

no idea. pretty easy to fold "tell me how" onto any kind of breakup though

i love 'grudges' - it reminds me of all the cure and trashcan sinatras and smiths that i didn't listen to in middle school

who or what is 'tell me how' about? (i am dim and haven't followed the band's history or relationships)

― del esdichado (NickB), Friday, May 12, 2017 12:10 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no idea. pretty easy to fold "tell me how" onto any kind of breakup though

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, May 12, 2017 12:11 PM

It's about my despair at knowing Taylor doesn't care I'm alive

unsurprisingly I like all of this now, though the closing trio sounds like it belongs on a longer / more ambitious record.

it's one hall of a jolt when spotify starts playing 'fast in my car' straight afterwards

It's about my despair at knowing Taylor doesn't care I'm alive

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, May 12, 2017 9:14 AM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes exactly

unsurprisingly I like all of this now, though the closing trio sounds like it belongs on a longer / more ambitious record.

Yeah, I really like the sequencing here, how it starts with all the knockout backyard barbecue tracks and gradually works its way into sprawlier ("less grounded," in Caramanica speak) territory. "No Friend" does so much to anchor the record; I'm so glad they didn't cut it.

tbh I'd like this album a ton more if it had like, another 10-20 minutes of material on it, even uneven material, just to better balance that big mass of polyrhythmic 80s stuff and put it in perspective. That was part of what i loved about the s/t one, how it worked as both a pop record and an exploratory endeavor. But historically most of their albums have been pretty lean so I guess this is a return to form in that way

"Forgiveness" is wonderful and the best take on the very very overexposed 80s soft-pop thing I've heard in a long time

aw man, i just made a post to this thread and the android app ate it. trying again:

Despite the talk of this not being like a classic emo paramore album, i think if you rearranged it for crunchy guitars and more soaring vocal lines, this would sound more like brand new eyes than self-titled.

Ok, that worked. My other thought in the eaten post was that i really like all her little vocal strains and squeaks in Idle Worship.

hope folks who like this make their way to Flock of Dimes stat

Despite the talk of this not being like a classic emo paramore album, i think if you rearranged it for crunchy guitars and more soaring vocal lines, this would sound more like brand new eyes than self-titled.

― how's life, Friday, May 12, 2017 9:48 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is exactly what i thought when i first heard it. "fake happy" -> "26" is like going back in time to brand new eyes

flock of dimes is great not sure i understand the relationship

tbh I'd like this album a ton more if it had like, another 10-20 minutes of material on it

Yeah I think this is what I was trying to get at, there's a pretty broad sonic canvas here that could have used a S/T type length to explore. but y'know "leaves you wanting more" is one of those good problems

i doubt this'll get mewithoutyou any new fans but if any of y'all like "no friend" and are unfamiliar i highly recommend getting into mewithoutyou

i think that will be youwithoutme tbh

Otm about the Brand New Eyes feel

Also about mewithoutyou being very good

Really digging this, especially the first half.
The '80s pop revivalism doesn't bother me at all here, cuz that guitar player has it FIGURED OUT how the jerky arpeggios of brittle new wave relate to African high life guitar

i.e. he's studied his English Beat

lol, I definitely gave Special Beat Service a spin in the last week.

hard times

Gif or gtfo

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Bought this irl at Target today, so now I own one CD. Still haven’t listened to the full album though.

Really loving this new Paramore album 'After Contra'.

Heh. (Listening now.)

I really enjoy this. Not sure about "No Friend" but it doesn't bother me. Am I making too much of their Nashville connection, or is there a bit of a modern country vibe on some of these choruses? Thinking Fogiveness, Fake Happy, and 26.

Pretty good first listen.

enjoying "grudges" a whole lot

btw is it me or is the production a bit muddy at points?

oh PLEASE

i thought this was one of the best produced pop records in years lol

"Forgiveness" is a wonder on earphones.

i thought this was one of the best produced pop records in years lol

Agreed - shiny as required but not nearly as aggressively mastered as most

haven't been able to listen on headphones yet tbf (on living room speakers for now)

rose-colored boy is one of my favorite tracks at this point!

I suspect Hayley has listened to ArtAngels a lot.

Love how "Forgiveness" never specified whether Hayley thinks the addressee actually deserves forgiveness or not - maybe recognising that the answer to that question may not be particularly relevant to their problem.

And I love the line "it could take me all your life to learn to love".

xp: yeah, there are definitely a few moments.

there are a lot of great, quotable lines on this, moreso than on the s/t

Agreed. Williams is in top form, and York and Farro match her.

btwn this and Kendrick I gather you just hate slow songs Alfred

I'm impressed that Williams and York are the only credited writers. Not that I thought they were at all incapable, just that they didn't go the lazy (imo) Taylor Swift route and hire a ringer to make their transformation, just (like Haim) a really sympathetic and intuitive producer.

I don't see Swift's move as lazy: she wanted a sound and sought the writer/producers most capable of it.

btwn this and Kendrick I gather you just hate slow songs Alfred

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.)

ça dépend! I prefer the slowness on the eponymous album.

i think "tell me how" is the best closer they've ever done

which has reminded me that all of their closers are baseline incredible

I agree w/ that, and also both ballads on this are way preferable to idk "Hate to See Your Heart Break"

Haha I was going to say "Tell Me How" is amazing but difficult for me to decide whether it's their best closer when "All I Wanted" exists ("and when the world treats you way too fairly..."), and I adore "Future" as well.

Love that "26" is so obviously a sequel to "Misguided Ghosts".

The York-Farro interplay in "Tell Me How" is on point.

"Future" is a pure novelty to me tbh, like it's neat that they did a post-rock song but I never actually get through it

xpost I only think the Taylor Swift move was lazy because she was an established successful crossover songwriter herself (mediocre or no), but when she decided to go big she picked a team that would churn out hits whether she was involved or not. Like, they did not need her, they've written dozens of huge hits with little or no input from the artist. This Paramore album, though, I find it sort of inspiring (or something less strong) that the band itself (like the 1975, to an extent) proves so capable of big pop songs without relying on one of the usual suspects.

I'm not saying Swift's lazy move was wrong, as such. But I think music like Paramore and Haim has so much more personality - Aint It Fun, still, and Hard Times, they sound so refreshing - and I would have been interested in hearing Swift, had she not hired out for hits, try to do the same all by herself.

I don't know, it's just personal preference, but I find Max Martin so big, boxy and heavy handed - joyless, really - but stuff like this, Haim and the 1975 is so wonderfully light on its feet.

Second that I think her singing is great on this. Can't explain why, but I keep thinking of someone like David Byrne singing "Forgiveness" or "Hard Times."

Yeah. Comparing this to Hella Good, which this reminds me of DON'T AT ME - just underlines what an amazing singer she is

Hayley's lyrics (and performance of them) are so declaratory that she's risk slipping into hectoring if her vocals weren't so endlessly nuanced and expressive.

The way the fluttering percussion and bass on "Forgiveness" slip into that steady pulse for the chorus is A+ devastating (-ly simple) pop craftsmanship.

yep

I agree w/ that, and also both ballads on this are way preferable to idk "Hate to See Your Heart Break"

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:45 PM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Man idk, both these songs are great, but Hate to See Your Heart Break is sublime.

The way the fluttering percussion and bass on "Forgiveness" slip into that steady pulse for the chorus is A+ devastating (-ly simple) pop craftsmanship.

― Tim F, Sunday, May 14, 2017 6:49 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark

i believe an acoustic guitar comes in as well, and then i think a slight twang emerges in hayley's voice, and in my head it momentarily shapeshifts into an especially lush kacey musgraves song

i like this, pretty cool. maybe a bit heavy on the fleetwood mac pastiche for me at times

"Grudges" turns out to secretly be a real grower.

I think it seems weak at first because Hayley sits further back in the mix and sounds relatively anonymous-shiny (for her), but after xxxx number of listens I've decided this is an aesthetic decision intended to create this charming Haim meets School of Seven Bells effect.

At my Best Buy on Saturday to buy some cables, I was told the Paramore album was sold out. Meanwhile I saw displays chock full of the Harry Styles album. It would be nice to think Paramore had a chance in hell at #1.

I'm sure the store ordered a bigger truckload of Harry Styles albums to stock the shelves with though.

i believe an acoustic guitar comes in as well, and then i think a slight twang emerges in hayley's voice, and in my head it momentarily shapeshifts into an especially lush kacey musgraves song

― J0rdan S., Monday, May 15, 2017 1:43 AM (fifteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh good, I thought I was being crazy when I heard some modern country moves on the choruses of some of these songs. I guess, some of the broad strokes of the chord changes in the choruses that read Modern Country to me could just be 80s pop rock moves, but I am not sure if there is much difference between the distinction.

"Forgiveness" on repeat.

This is a great record about depression

choruses that read Modern Country to me could just be 80s pop rock moves, but I am not sure if there is much difference between the distinction.

this is like the first time i heard fearless and i thought half the choruses were rebranded mainstream emo

choruses that read Modern Country to me could just be 80s pop rock moves, but I am not sure if there is much difference between the distinction.

this is like the first time i heard fearless and thought half of the choruses on that record were rebranded mainstream emo

lmao i thought that post didn't go through, go me

one more with Hayley harmonies!

this is like the first time i heard fearless and thought half of the choruses on that record were rebranded mainstream emo

I guess i've gone full circle. Fearless is probably a large touchstone for what I might consider modern country, even though it was almost a decade ago.

tee-THAH!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7piSRAsAyQE

some good taylor content there cc alfred

Huh. Lots of prerecorded stuff there, especially with six people on stage. I was curious how they would pull it off.

Went out and bought the album day of release at Target, which Hayley loves, so that was appropriate.

I also got the DIY magazine issue with them on the cover in the mail. It’s tiny.

THESE
NIGHTS

Yah?

Love how the plot of "Rose-Colored Boy" is basically a direct inverse of the archetypal manic pixie dream girl narrative.

you are the waaaave

I still love this

Would you say you’re still into it???

I need to listen to this. It's not the sort of thing I want to listen to in the background while I'm online (since the English lyrics will be too distracting). I think the best thing for me to do is buy a copy and listen in the car.

After all this time?

I think I love every song on this album now.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-D6zD5XkAQNTmp.jpg

I'm still into him!

I should be over all the butterflies

Some things just, some things just make sense.

I think I love every song on this album now.

― Tim F, Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:41 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

same. i had a moment with "grudges" today

LAUGH. TILL. WE. CRY

kinda want to know what the og straightforward rock arrangement of "caught in the middle" was like

"Caught in the Middle" and "26" are the only ones that still haven't unbuttoned their shirts for me.

u like "tell me how" now alfred

It reminds me of "Future"

Let the record reflect that I was OTM about "Grudges" upthread.

guys I think this is the best paramore album

i a/b'd it with the s/t last week and i disagree but only slightly

^^^^ same

I gotta be honest I regularly skip like 5 songs on Paramore (and I don't mean the interludes)

love this one but BNE remains the best.

"Caught in the Middle" and "26" are the only ones that still haven't unbuttoned their shirts for me.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:14 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Caught in the Middle feels like a No Doubt album cut. While I like the idea of Paramore going ska, I wish there was more of a chorus. 26 is amazing though! At first I didn't think it lived up to Hate to See Your Heartbreak for me, as far as Paramore country attempts go, but sonically, it really feels like a lost Taylor Swift ballad circa Fearless or Speak Now.

Let the record reflect that I was OTM about "Grudges" upthread.

― Tim F, Friday, May 26, 2017 12:18 AM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You were.

I think of "26" as a sequel to "Misguided Ghosts", which is one of the three ~perfect songs~ on Brand New Eyes.

But yeah there is something kinda Taylor about it.

I've been listening to "Tell Me How" on repeat lately

Dang, jealous that you all connected with this so much. I burned out on it pretty fast.

It's well crafted and has some solid songs but I think it's kinda tacky.

“Pool” has been a thing for me.

http://1900parmore.com/index.html

That's a compliment!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ceNoLdXq0k

beatnik paramore is the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ceNoLdXq0k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY

The final three song stretch on this is hypnotizing stuff.

I did -- four days without listening to "Hard Times"!

*I did it

Proud of u bb.

this is my album of 2017 so far, i can't stop listening to it

I was thinking to myself yesterday "man, Fake Hpapy would be a great next single if it weren't for that pesky intro" then lo and behold there it is on Spotify with the intro shorn off

*Happy argh

So this album has been a sales flop eh

btw riot! came out ten years ago today

So this album has been a sales flop eh

I was hoping that "Hard Times" or "Told You So" would end up as a slow-burn hit the way "Ain't It Fun" did but I guess that's looking unlikely

they rushed the promo cycle on this record intentionally but its floppability may have been out of their hands anyway

I will never understand the mechanics of what gets to be a pop hit tbh

i'm surprised "hard times" didn't catch

i'm telling you, pop radio is allergic to women who don't sound catatonic these days

Even Katy Perry replacing Williams couldn't stop this from tumbling out of the top fifty. And Perry's next.

maura otm. "Ain't It Fun" wouldn't reach the top ten in 2017 if RCA sent 20 grams of coke to every programmer.

there are three women in the top 20 (not a typo) this week and two of them are muses for edm dudes

http://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100

fuck -- "Bad Liar" is done.

"Fake Happy" is my favourite track

Can we discuss how beautifully -- how intricately -- York layers those guitar parts on "Told You So"? At least three riffs, each playing something different, and Williams has a melody line for'em all. The thing is like a cuckoo clock.

& they didn't even need 500 years of democracy and peace

Should be pretty easy to get rid of.

wouldn't kick it with you after you hit that ground

I tried to convince a skeptical peer of this album's genius by playing him "Told You So" and he replied with "bridge is OK, rest is meh" and now I truly understand rage

that person is not your peer. treat them as the sub-human refuse that they are.

i'm telling you, pop radio is allergic to women who don't sound catatonic these days

― maura, Monday, June 12, 2017 5:08 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this makes me sad, although it was a youth female that recommended me this album in the first place, so hope 4 the future

has it been remarked that "forgiveness" sounds like a christine mcvie-penned FM song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fUQc48x8Gc

holy god

fuck me up

hmm, what other covers can i summon...

DON'T YOU THINK IT'S WEIRD HOW "TOLD YOU SO" SOUNDS LIKE STEVE REICH'S "TEHILLIM"???

I don’t really care about Fleetwood Mac. They should play some Staind.

your mom should play some staind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqoj_3r9oqg

she sounds terrific

I still haven't caught up with the new one. Loved the self-titled record though. This one is a bit more synthy, no?

you might say so

Can't look back/Can't look too far ahead

About what I've recently concluded is necessary for me to keep things together at all.

Hearing XTC in Idle Worship and some other songs.

top 5 of the year so far for me

same

Top 1 for me

Ha yeah, same here! I took a break from listening to it for a week or so but went back to it again today. I loved the s/t but this even tops that.

Yeah, this has become my album of the year too. It's just edging out Perfume Genius.

Still love this band but this album is tacky

You know who else is tacky?

Your MAMA

I haven't heard any other Paramore album, but I love this one. Would I enjoy their other stuff? I know this one is different...

Tacky

xp yeah you'd probably enjoy them a lot, especially the s/t album, which foreshadows some of the poppier sounds on this one. The albums before that were much more modern rock-y, but they were a best in class kinda thing for what they were

I seriously just got into a car accident about two hours ago while Hard Times was playing on my car stereo. Fortunately, nobody was hurt and I am pretty sure the other driver's insurance will have to pay (I was rear-ended while being forced to stop during a right-hand turn), but my care looks like crap even more than it did before. Some sort of sign.

This is why we don't drive on people's asses, Albuquerque.

good show. the fleetwood mac cover is really good.

Now that the album has been, alas, a resounding flop I wonder what's next.

Hopefully they're still doing well enough as a touring act that soft sales don't matter so much?

I think I'm the only one here who hates the new album, but would they still be worth seeing if I'm not into the new stuff? They're coming in December but I don't think I can take 90 minutes of polyrhythmic beach party Paramore

There are a lot of videos and setlists available from the tour. They are playing plenty of older stuff.

I had tickets to their DC show, but found out a couple weeks ahead of time that I couldn't make it. Put my tickets up for sale online and no one bought them. There were several other sellers there, all seemingly trying desperately to unload tickets and taking losses at the last minute. As far as I know none of them sold. This was my first time trying to sell tickets online, so I don't know if this is the usual experience, but I would have thought there would have been more demand for Paramore in a 3,000-seater.

the album isn't even 40 minutes of polyrhythmic beach party paramore

I just busted out the album for the first time in a while this week and the polyrhythmic beach party still holds up really well for me.

they play hard times, told you so, rose colored boy, forgiveness, fake happy, 26 and caught in the middle, everything else is old ... it was a very tight set list i thought

the first 6 songs on the album are fav stretch of any album i've heard this year... still warming up slowly to the back half

they sold out radio city last night (6,000 cap) but idk what that means really

i don't think this album not catching on means much ultimately... i think they're a pop band now but wouldn't imagine them making more songs that sound like "hard times" et al anyway

Yeah, I'm sure the next album cycle will bring more change.

hopefully Taylor York won't learn one new guitar trick and hammer it into the ground on the next record

strong disagree

lol, just the way you phrased that makes me hope he assiduously throws himself into Steve Vai and the next paramore album is all arpeggio runs, whammy bar, and pinch harmonics.

Taylor York has stepped up to every challenge since 2010.

i can't disagree harder w/ any opinion than the idea that those guitar parts on the paramore album aren't awesome

yeah I wish I felt the same way. They sound tacky as fuck to me, and unfortunately the album's best written songs are the ones that lay them on thickest. Like, the whole album is a wash for me, I can have my pick of either second-tier material or good songs saturated in a shtick I find insufferable.

again, not trying to change anybody's mind on this; I know I'm pretty much alone in this opinion in this thread. Just bummed about it. This was maybe the album I was looking forward to the most this year

youuuuuuuuu
you want forgivenesssssssssss

xp: Evan, I can totally understand why this style might not be someone's bag too. Sorry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8vsuOXZBXc

🙃

i don't really get this video at all but i'm glad they're pushing this one as a single. think it could be the hit from this album.

1:05 made me remember the "yells at a butt" comment from the gangnam style thread.

Is Taylor naked in it

I love this song

Fake Happy is my favourite song on the album. Hope it can do an Ain't It Fun and give them a slow burning hit single. I'm still in shock at the commercial performance for this album. It should be huge.

I think the album is fine for what it is but a pretty poor use of this band and Hayley William's vast skill set. It definitely doesn't sound like it should be huge to me, the charts weren't really clamoring for a bunch of polyrhymic 80s throwbacks. Most of it just feels kinda silly and disposable to me; it doesn't have the heft or longevity of the three albums before it.

I'm still hoping there are a bunch of outtakes from these sessions that eventually see daylight. I respect that they opted to make a fairly tight record, but after the four year wait between albums this just feels slight and incomplete to me

this record is perfect and your life is in shambles, friend

lol that video!

it's a good album but was under-promoted and feels more like their indie album than their pop album so the performance isn't surprising

It could been promoted 24 hours a day in 2017 and it wouldn't have made a difference. These songs don't fit formats.

Anybody seen this tour? Weird moment from last night's show: Zac sang a song about Scooby during the encore, and the crowd seemed totally lost. Couldn't quite understand what was going on.

I was bummed they didn't do "Now." "Fake Happy" and "Ain't it Fun" killed though

it's a halfnoise (zac's band) song

Ain’t it Fun live is the best thing

saw them at radio city and really enjoyed it

fake happy up there with my SOTY

https://youtu.be/_SuSvSH0gtM

Taylor talking extensively about his guitar gear.

he's so beautiful

just another cuervo fueled night of hitting every youtube instance of their "Everywhere" cover, thanks to whoever brought that up initially because I'm far beyond being able to live without it

oh

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH

aha

aha

AH

Tried to find a thread for this list.

Pool would be in my top 5

Alfred you linked to your wordpress backend. What's your password? :)

lol

New Hayley interview! This podcast focuses on beauty/makeup and Hayley's on there to promote her latest GoodDyeYoung product, but she talks a lot of Paramore as well.. About halfway through they get DEEP into skincare products which I found interesting but is alien territory for me so I haven't finished the ep yet. But she has a good rapport with the interviewer. The conversation feels honest and open and friendly and not very press junket-ish, which some of the other AL-cycle interviews suffer from.

https://www.mirrormirrorpodcast.com/editorial/ep27hayleywilliams

you are the waaaaave

I want to know what Taylor does to keep his hair so awesome.

Rose Colored Boy video out soon, with a hopefully more satisfying amount of Taylor York hair than the last vid, for Alfred's sake.

#wakeuproseville pic.twitter.com/4YHBTqmSai

— paramore (@paramore) February 5, 2018

omg

i was literally just thinking yesterday, "they should put out 'rose-colored boy' as a single. it won't go anywhere but they should do it anyway"

seeing them live a few weeks ago revved up my appreciation of this album. "Rose-Colored Boy" is now my favorite song on the album

oh & they walked on just after blasting "Man! I Feel Like A Woman" & the crowd sang along in full voice; then they left to "I Wanna Dance With Somebody". this all makes sense I think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW5ueE2vUm0

man dude, my eyes started welling up at the part with young hayley.

it got to me too

did they mix up the video treatments for this and "fake happy"

they seem fun

https://media.giphy.com/media/l4pTpAc88oa9pQttS/giphy.gif

I can't

this is their best video i think?

i think it's even better than my other fav, "the only exception"

yehhh top video

I have no idea if people actually listen to this band. Was this album a hit? A flop? Have they toured behind it? Just festivals? Clearly they are still releasing singles.

it was a flop, they have toured and are touring behind it

And yet, pretty sure they never hit Chicago! I mean, they might have been at Riot Fest? But I was shocked they never played a standalone show here, if that was it.

Seems like it was a flop in the Melodrama sense, where maybe it underperformed a bit commercially but it was also enormously well-received and probably cemented their fanbase for many, many years to come.

Saw their winter show (sold out, I think) and the good will for the band was just through the roof.

yeah i was less worried about their health as a band after seeing them on this tour (at a sold out radio city). i think after "still into you" and "ain't it fun" were big pop hits that really leaning hard into that direction made sense... but given how hard it is for any rock band to get consistent traction in pop i'm also not surprised it didn't catch. will be interesting to see where they go next having given this route their best effort.

apropos of nothing "Forgiveness" reminds me of The Orb's "Star 6 7 8 9" or whatever it was called

Big thanks to New Zealand for my massive new tan. Wish I never had to leave this place. Don’t think it’s possible to get more tan though.. pic.twitter.com/CQpqbPtEys

— Taylor York (@itstayloryall) February 14, 2018

Taylor looking less like a dapper young emissary of pop and new wave and more like everyone I went on Phish tour with. When album 6 rolls around in uh, 2021, I'm predicting jammy elements.

You have exactly an hour to retract.

lol, it would never happen. I could see them adding more psych pop elements to their sound though. Dude loves his pedals.

meanwhile I'm pleased they're obsessed with "Seven Wonders" too.

#tour4 is going great. now back to you! pic.twitter.com/qHETlewOhS

— paramore (@paramore) February 10, 2018

I bet everybody here is fake happy too pic.twitter.com/sztBARpIh8

— Kenny G (@kennyg) March 29, 2018

oh man. would love to see a collab

no fuckin way

reasonable dancing?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BhSVGuNlvDv/?taken-by=paramoremusicom

Zac Farro interview:

https://www.moderndrummer.com/article/may-2018-paramores-zac-farro/

My favourite record of 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j7z_oPTvJM&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j7z_oPTvJM

i support this band turning into talking heads

I support drinking Old Fashioneds with Taylor.

I support Alfred

<3

The two dudes are so cute.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, February 2, 2017 2:49 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Taylor York, can you stop being so hot

thx

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:38 AM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

HARD
TIMES

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:02 AM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

after staring lovingly at Taylor's mugging iirc

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, May 3, 2017 3:15 PM (eleven months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Taylor looks like such a nice boyfriend.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, May 5, 2017 5:28 AM (eleven months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is that Taylor singing "No Friend"?

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:21 AM (eleven months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's about my despair at knowing Taylor doesn't care I'm alive

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, May 12, 2017 9:14 AM (eleven months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm still into him!

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:44 PM (eleven months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I should be over all the butterflies

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:44 PM (eleven months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Taylor York has stepped up to every challenge since 2010.

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, October 5, 2017 10:49 AM (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Is Taylor naked in it

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, November 17, 2017 9:23 AM (five months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he's so beautiful

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, January 4, 2018 10:08 AM (three months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I want to know what Taylor does to keep his hair so awesome.

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, February 2, 2018 8:55 AM (three months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Taylor looking less like a dapper young emissary of pop and new wave and more like everyone I went on Phish tour with. When album 6 rolls around in uh, 2021, I'm predicting jammy elements.

― how's life, Thursday, February 15, 2018 6:17 AM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You have exactly an hour to retract.

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, February 15, 2018 6:24 AM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I support drinking Old Fashioneds with Taylor.

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, May 2, 2018 3:44 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://78.media.tumblr.com/36c99c24cf3adc58f07cf6d0eda116ca/tumblr_oxnxoqLPuD1vbpzfno8_500.gif

hard times

i laughed out loud at HARD TIMES. dont think i caught that on the first go round.

good god this song is just about a year old

god that colbert performance rules

wow!

Barbara Taylor
3 days ago
I actually like this found on mistake on late a TV show when I woke up in the middle of the morning and when I turned on my TV this came on. I liked it!!
What l was she speaking in? I do not follow or believe in Stephen Colbert's Politics, but loved this act.

AddictedToPrismatic
3 days ago
was she in drugs?

Hard timss

http://www.papermag.com/hayley-williams-op-ed-2573595188.html

hayley <3

oh also i finally saw them on this tour (at boston calling) and it was wonderful. we got kind of an abbreviated festival setlist; unexpectedly, they cut "misery business," and they played "idle worship"/"no friend." i was ecstatic

it was very good

I have a place in my heart for misery business, but would be fine with it if they rotated it out of their sets.

Saw them at Bonnaroo last weekend, they were great. Also did the Idle Worship/No Friend extended jam. And in the middle, Hayley gave this nice little talk, partly prompted by Anthony Bourdain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wII7lsPz42I

hey i was there too!

I saw yr write-ups for RS! Hope you enjoyed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFOY6KJlFEg

happy birthday to me

happy birthday!

Happy Taylorday!

Seeing them tonight with my older daughter, who is 13 and the perfect age for this.

Josh, that is going to be so amazing!!

la
la la la la la la
just let me
let
you
down

🌺 pic.twitter.com/1zdvccDA8a

— hayley from Paramore (@yelyahwilliams) December 28, 2019

Umm isn’t Paramore already basically Hayley + friends

petals for armor has arrived

taylor is still supposed to be involved with petals for armor, right? so totally confused by this but looking forward to it anyway

yes, though also everything known about petals for armor is still extremely speculative afaik

happy for whatever happens

ready to meet Taylor for negronis whatever happens

lol.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CN6GxudJ7e0/?igshid=1l3a5wfyngoah

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/paramore-new-album-interview-update-1282239/

Hayley Williams always knew her debut solo album, Petals for Armor, would be a detour, but she still felt anxious about getting Paramore back together after several years apart. But on the first day she, Taylor York, and Zac Farro reconnected at a Nashville studio space, those nerves quickly melted into relief.

“We wrote and tracked something we loved and it actually surprised us,” Williams tells Rolling Stone in an email. “We kept joking it was all downhill from that point, but thank God we’ve been surprised a lot throughout this whole thing. I’m always waiting for the moment for us to know we’re onto something new and we’re not just rehashing the same shit. It was ‘Ain’t It Fun’ for our self-titled record, and ‘Hard Times’ or ‘Told You So’ for After Laughter. It’s not about it feeling like a hit so much as it’s a scary, exciting feeling that you’re treading uncharted waters. It keeps you curious. We got to feel that feeling early on this time.”

As for the album’s sound, Williams says she and York had been reminiscing on some of their earliest influences well before they began writing the LP. But she’s quick to note that that doesn’t necessarily mean the group is necessarily plotting a “comeback ‘emo’ record.”

“The music we were first excited by wasn’t exactly the kind of music we went on to make,” Williams says. “Our output has always been all over the place and with this project, it’s not that different. We’re still in the thick of it but some things have remained consistent from the start. 1) More emphasis back on the guitar, and 2) Zac should go as Animal as he wants with drum takes.”

feeling good about this

ready to meet Taylor for negronis whatever happens

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, December 28, 2019

Thank god. I've been waiting for signs of life from these guys for a while.

we've been living in

hard times

unreasonably excited. or reasonably. these folks, in whatever configuration, have really never failed me

otm

1) More emphasis back on the guitar, and 2) Zac should go as Animal as he wants with drum takes

sounds good to me

Yeah I love After Laughter but I'm ready for more Paramore ROCK.

please tell me this is when they make their Failure record

So, about half a year ago, Hayley mentioned in an interview

“We’ve thought about [the next Paramore album]. Taylor’s mentioned things like: ‘Oh, God – I miss guitars. We’ve found ourselves listening to a lot of older music that we grew up being inspired by. T and I liked stuff that was a bit more ratty sounding: The Rapture, Yeah Yeah Yeahs. All three of us loved Queens Of The Stone Age’s ‘Songs For The Deaf.’”

But yes, I hope for more Failure influence as well.

time has proven every song on the second half of after laughter the greatest song of all time

you don't have to tell me
if you ever think of me
i know you see me dancing wildly in the fog of your memory
you don't have to tell me
i can still believe

Um, what about the first half?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvs2JJuZwJ0

just posting a dope underrated paramore jam

^

huge stage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoNOexnZpyM

we’ve missed you. we’re playing When We Were Young Fest in Vegas on Oct 22nd.

register for pre-sale now at https://t.co/y4F18MAQsO

📸: @elkemusek pic.twitter.com/KHLR07Qq0k

— paramore (@paramore) January 18, 2022

I'm looking forward to the day we'll have to start a new thread.

I am NOT feeling that Taylor hair

that festival's lineup is fucking crazy, like someone cherry-picked the best years of warped tour

I'm sorry your man looks like a spaniel now, Alfred.

Warped Tour Nostalgia=Next Big Thing!

nice to see weird al's son getting out there and making a legacy of his own

*accordion lick*
*slide whistle*
WHOOOOOA i never meant to brag
but i got him where i want him now *HONK*

hayley in orange, let's gooo

xp lol

1) More emphasis back on the guitar

Any word yet on who will be producing? I think the Justin Meldal-Johnsen partnership has been super beneficial and I'd hate for them to go back in the direction of the Rob Cavallo's of the world.

no confirmation, i bet it's jmj tho

there are many studios and producers in california but i assume he's who they'd travel there for

Good good. I'm all for more guitars in line with the s/t.

I went back to their "You Ain't Woman Enough" cover recently, which is a fun Hayley karaoke belter. Have they done any other covers?

The last two Paramore albums and the solo Williams joint are among my favorite produced albums of all time. They sound *great*, super cool.

Have they done any other covers?

― Indexed, Wednesday, January 19, 2022 7:51 AM (thirty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes! i'm a big fan of their failure cover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDqVVH5Ppyo

The covered Passionfruit by Drake and Everywhere by Fleetwood Mac a lot live during the After Laughter tours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqoj_3r9oqg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3HsSjS6n-k

I'm not going to that whole festival, but a double-headline Paramore/MCR tour would be pretty much the highlight of any year for me.

Love that "Everywhere" cover -- a perfect fit with the After Laughter vibe.

The last two Paramore albums and the solo Williams joint are among my favorite produced albums of all time. They sound *great*, super cool.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, January 19, 2022 8:57 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Agreed. Jon Caramanica once called the s/t "a mess", and I was personally offended.

pretty sure they would play "everywhere" right after "forgiveness" which is indeed perfect

https://i.redd.it/99o38wd53cr81.jpg

New pic of Hayley and Taylor hanging out with the Linda Lindas (half of the band's dad is Carlos de la Garza, who has done mixing/engineering on all the recent Paramore/Williams projects).

Hayley dueted on an acoustic Misery Business with Billie Eilish at Coachella

hayley williams wore toxicity & KO in her hair at coachella with billie eilish so I wore toxicity & KO in my hair at coachella pic.twitter.com/INmn4ZnMBv

— Good Dye Young 🌈 (@gooddyeyoung) April 24, 2022

and Billie's Happily Ever After

Hayley also came back to sing ‘Happier than Ever’ with @billieeilish, last song of the setlist. pic.twitter.com/AcPby2S6Nk

— PARAMORE ITALIA (@italiaparamore) April 24, 2022

Thought the "Misery Business" performance was cool til I watched the "Happier Than Ever" vid

hayley williams singing happier than ever with billie elish at #Coachella pic.twitter.com/0aMabFq6P9

— ★ yelyah content ★ (@YELYAHCONTENT) April 24, 2022

i thought she wasn't doing "Misery Business" anymore but i guess she'll dust it off for the right person? (not judging her for this)

Yeah, it's interesting because they officially retired it in 2018, haven't done anything as a band since then, and Hayley made a point about it in 2020 when Spotify included MizBiz on some women in rock playlist. So it must be a case of the right person asking her. And they did sound fucking good together!

There's also ALL. THE. ATTENTION. the song has received in the past few years, with Willow Smith, Olivia Rodrigo, and Machine Gun Kelly all giving nods to Old Paramore.

I think I will save my disappointment for if Paramore The Band plays it live again.

is there a second Weird Al biopic Taylor is gunning for?

https://i.redd.it/4wia1iitjrv81.jpg

I'm thinking Marty Friedman.

(if he grows it long enough)

They didn't officially retire it. She said they won't play it for a while. That they needed a break from it. So in fact they suggested it will be played again. And it probably should. Yeah it's mean in a not very modern way but it's also written by a teenager and true to that perspective. A song that good won't stay down.

Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if they re-wrote the lyrics. During the Eilish performance and the After Laughter tours, Hayley would change it up by just covering her mouth for the word "whore", but left the rest of the lyrics intact. I think there's room for interpretations of a "misery business" that could be interesting, where they could hang different ideas on the basic framework.

They could change it to "bore", or "chore"... alotta options.

In other news, despite it's modest chart performance, "Hard Times" has become quite the CVS Jam.

hayley's got a radio show called "everything is emo," first episode here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0c3hp39

great set

Hard times.

touring this fall, registered for the “verified fan presale” lfggggg

this means a new album, right

seriously tho can anyone explain to me how this Ticketmaster Verified Fan bs keeps tickets from scalpers, do they think scalpers don’t know how to fill out a form or

Really digging their new profile banner, although I can't tell what the hell it's supposed to be. Definitely signals a break from the neon times of After Laughter.

xpost I think it helps prevent bots from just gobbling up as much as possible. It's a bit like 2-step verification.

So, about half a year ago, Hayley mentioned in an interview

“We’ve thought about [the next Paramore album]. Taylor’s mentioned things like: ‘Oh, God – I miss guitars. We’ve found ourselves listening to a lot of older music that we grew up being inspired by. T and I liked stuff that was a bit more ratty sounding: The Rapture, Yeah Yeah Yeahs. All three of us loved Queens Of The Stone Age’s ‘Songs For The Deaf.’”
But yes, I hope for more Failure influence as well.

― peace, man, Wednesday, January 12, 2022 6:35 AM (six months ago) bookmarkflaglink

In her podcast today, Hayley mentioned that Bloc Party was in the mix of influences as well. I know Bloc Party at all, and I didn't pay enough attention to the songs of theirs that she played, so guess I'll have to go back and dig into that.