rolling emo/pop-punk/dogs on skateboards 2017

ok let's start with the excellent sinai vessel record which comes out at the end of january

https://sinaivessel.bandcamp.com/album/brokenlegged

Really digging the Old Gray album that came out last month. Maybe too screamy for this thread?

xp

That's lovely! Very full-sounding with the strings. Look forward to the full release.

Not wanting to delve into the past too much here, but I missed this TBS-styled EP of cute, energetic anthems last year and really think it's worth many listens:

https://charmermusic.bandcamp.com/album/whateverville

Oh man, thanks for the Old Gray rec, it scratches an old-timey itch for me.

http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/dashboard_confessional_release_surprise_epcover_the_1975_justin_bieber_juli

omfg YES

Oh hey there's a new sorority noise single

Dashboard covering Julien Baker is the most passing of the emo torch thing ever

sorority noise remain as ever kinda eh whatever diet emo to me but there's more animation in the new single than i've heard from them before

https://priests.bandcamp.com/album/nothing-feels-natural

I dig these three tracks, album is out on Friday.

that sinai vessel record is streaming here http://www.avclub.com/article/stream-sinai-vessels-hard-earned-debut-album-broke-248804

broken record about the sinai vessel album but it's out now and "laughlin" is an incredible song

the Allison Crutchfield record also out today is v enjoyable

last track on the sinai vessel record is weirdly terrible though. would've made a great ep, oh well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVjxrcEjx7E

oh my god this oliver houston album just knocked me on my ass

like the look mexico record from last year it gets the mathy emo/actually good songs ratio just right

does "good dog" definitely include an interpolation of fleetwood mac's "everywhere" or no?

until there's a rolling indie rock thread, i think this goes here:

https://osoosoband.bandcamp.com/album/the-yunahon-mixtape

it is good.

emo is the new indie rock

new menzingers!

my first listen was...not very promising for the most part, esp distressing as I thought Rented World was a significant step up

oh - i like it so far! i mean it's not super innovative but that was never really their strength. it's just v listenable crunchy power pop punk (some songs remind me of infinity on high fall out boy and 21st century breakdown green day)

I'm seeing Priests + Snail Mail tonight and listening to Snail Mail's Habit EP for the first time. It's much more emo than I was expecting, in the best way possible.

the menzingers suck imo and always have

i assume any and all esteem for them is generated from how good they are live but they are a dead ass dull pop punk band on record

might be more appropriate on a j-pop thread, but I like this from the Your Name ost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDSkFeMVNFs

ok Snail Mail were so fucking good live, I hope they capture that energy on record soon

really enjoying this band can't swim. the chorus on "we won't sleep" is a little awkward but everything around it is like super cheesy, hooky emo perfectly calibrated to my tastes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs7CWDUtuws

(their album comes out in march)

love it. i'm so easily manipulatable by emo songs. that moment at 2:00 (and in almost every emo song ever) when the instrumental cuts out and then comes roaring back in is super effective for me no matter how many times i hear it. thursday obv the master of this particular trick. when i saw them w/ my brother at starland he was so impressed at how rickley goes from 0 to 10 in 0 seconds. now they're doing a full tour and i'm thinking about seeing them AGAIN and fillmore philly...

i still really want to do that emo/pop-punk poll i signed up for years ago on the poll thread. i was also thinking a POX FOB thread would be fun. i've been listening to so much /classic/ emo recently - FOB when i drive, Brand New all the time, Dashboard at work. still loving that new dashboard covers EP.

I would be so down for that even though I seem to only be able to get into maybe 50% of the "classic" emo bands for one reason (musical or extramusical) or another

definitely do the emo poll mordy

im down and ready for this poll

once i get the go ahead from the master poll thread i'll start it up and link to it here

It's weird that I just noticed The Meadowlands came up in another thread cause I was about to ask if it should be eligible for this

in a way it feels like cheating cause it's so acclaimed and no one (that I can recall) called it emo at the time? but also it feels like it set the course for how emo bands tend to evolve as they stick around and grow up so idk

i plan to have a v expansive definition

^^ into it even though i'll complain during the results

Was taken aback by how emo Meadowlands is when i finally heard it a few years ago, for some reason always assumed they sounded like The National. Was p4k particularly averse to stuff calling itself emo in 2003?

the wrens have a little bit of emo in them anyway imo (the most obvious thing being the emphasis on dual vocals), see this og version of "boys you won't" from an old drive-thru records comp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu0XdDY3zfc

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Was p4k particularly averse to stuff calling itself emo in 2003?

Only stuff they liked.

TBF i lean against meadowlands being available to vote for, idk i dont want it to win idk idk

true story: i would've probably been a huge emo fan in high school but i took the pfork pan of stay what you are to heart

that review apparently no longer exists on the website but this tragedy still does: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/8054-full-collapse/

also: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/4261-bleed-american/

the deja entendu review is also still there. the weird thing with that is i read that review at the time and thought "oh yeah, this record sounds like some bullshit" but mtv2 played "sic transit gloria" CONSTANTLY and i was like, "this song fucking rules, i'm buying the album who gives a shit"

and now i make rolling emo threads on ilx

so glad i didnt care about music reviews until like 2008

well pitchfork anyway. read the source pretty religiously for a long time

im pumped 4 this poll. Are you gonna do albums and tracks?

yeah i probably could've saved myself a lot of adolescent taste posturing had i never followed a link to pfork's kid a review through a radiohead fansite

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Pretty sure it's the NME's fault I didn't listen to any emo records between 'From Under the Cork Tree' and the first Joyce Manor.

all these bad p4k reviews of classic emo albums just screams of anxiety - the knock consistently appears to be that the albums aren't /serious/ enough compared to the EXTREMELY DIFFERENT and NOT THE SAME THING AT ALL college rock indie albums they're touting one review over. hard to imagine someone listening to deja entendu and not finding at least some of the lyrics clever, or listening to all of bleed american and not enjoying any of it. all these reviews sound like the reviewer yelling at their own youth.

at the v least i'll do albums and depending how that goes i'll do tracks too maybe following? it feels like too much to run both simultaneously?

hard to imagine someone listening to deja entendu and not finding at least some of the lyrics clever

to that reviewer's credit i believe he acknowledges that some of the lyrics are great

give spin + andy greenwald credit for treating thursday and brand new and dashboard all seriously - i loved greenwald's nothing feels good and i remember at least a few really excellent profiles of chris carrabba at the time. probably lucky i was reading spin (and RS who iirc didn't weigh in much either way) and not p4k.

conversely i haaaaate the greenwald book but i hate dude's writing generally

well, at least nothing feels good is better than everybody hurts

i haven't read it since it came out so for all i know it would annoy me now but back then it felt good (lol) to see bands i loved getting a somewhat serious treatment on their level. iirc i particularly liked the conversations he had w/ the fans about why they loved this music.

I suffered p much exactly the same musical respectability politics issue that Brad did which is why the closest I got to emo at the time was The Wrens and the Desoto records stuff which tbh I really think should also be considered emo. Some of it (eg Shiner's The Egg) even got the dreaded emo pan

wait, I see that actually got a positive review, I must be thinking of something else from the same period

anyway the early aughts were such a great time for bands threading the post-hardcore / emo / indie rock / art-rock needle imo, see also Frodus

i have no idea what these bands are simon

oh man

the noms thread is going to feature me breathlessly droning on about guitar albums no one else gives a shit about, it's gonna suck/rule

Black Eyes self-titled still goes hard

Still listen to those guys all the time. This track goes so hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifvomZe3WLo

I guess we can save the debate for the poll but imo to qualify, bands should have *some* kind of over-earnest or, well, emotional quality, which is why I'd be comfortable nominating Juno but not, say, Black Eyes or Q and not U.

I think there are certain Black Eyes tracks (Deformative) but maybe not the albums

anyway the early aughts were such a great time for bands threading the post-hardcore / emo / indie rock / art-rock needle imo, see also Frodus

otm

tbh I thought Jimmy Eat World, Jets to Brazil, etc were terrible at the time. Was much more into stuff like Small Brown Bike, Hot Water, Frodus, Shiner, PMFS... which I guess means just post-hardcore, though emo-core was what we thought of it.

I did like Get Up Kids though so who knows

oh man I remember P4k shitting on JtB (and Jawbreaker's Dear You!) for their emoness so hard

lol Danm never heard of any of those bands.

It isn't emo, but I lost nearly all respect for pitchfork when they gave Lifter Puller's Fiestas & Fiascos a 3.something rating, and then years later were slobbering all over the band after Hold Steady blew up and the LP discography came out.

lol I remember that!

Legit surprised you've never heard of Hot Water Music in an emo thread. Sad! ;) xp

honestly "best album panned by p4k" would also be a great poll

I guess we can save the debate for the poll but imo to qualify, bands should have *some* kind of over-earnest or, well, emotional quality, which is why I'd be comfortable nominating Juno but not, say, Black Eyes or Q and not U.

i would nominate q and not u personally but then i think that also opens the floodgates for like, fugazi, so idk

it's gonna be weird maintaining the limits of a very ill-defined genre!

yeah and it's gonna feel weird and wrong if like The Wrens place above Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge

then again...heartbreak over silly shit would be v emo, so

See I dunno if it's just the influence of the college radio circles I ran with at the time or what, and honestly no offense intended, but My Chemical Romance was widely regarded as garbage by the emo "cognoscenti" I associated with when they came out. Everyone was way more into the stuff coming out on DeSoto, Deep Elm, No Idea, etc.

Or maybe I just hung out with more punk rockers than it seemed like at the time. The joys of dissecting what "emo" is at 38 years old, 17 years after the fact!

remember when ultragrrl (i think that was her name?) called three cheers for sweet revenge this generation's nevermind

See I dunno if it's just the influence of the college radio circles I ran with at the time or what, and honestly no offense intended, but My Chemical Romance was widely regarded as garbage by the emo "cognoscenti" I associated with when they came out.

This was v much the perception in my friend circle at the time, I only learned to love them and FOB thru ILX evangelism (esp brad's) over the least few years

i didn't like FOB until infinity on high and continue to find those earlier albums pretty boring + derivative - i think they really came into their sound around then and it has only been excellent stuff since then. MCR otoh was great from the get-go and if anything i think they kinda lost the plot the more proggy-emo they got. speaking of proggy-emo i'm unapologetically a coheed & cambria fan in particularly second stage turbine and in keeping secrets

particular*

second stage was a huge record for me bc it was kind of a "eureka" moment with regard to the continuity of emo bc parts of it sound like sunny day real estate

besides ILX I think Thursday's A City by the Light Divided was what clued me in to the fact that there was a whole world of stuff I'd previously dismissed, and tbh I don't think I'd have noticed it except for the fact that it crossed over to the indie press due to (I guess) Fridmann's involvement

anyway I will save my most controversial emo recommendation for the noms thread

i remember wanting that record to cross over more than it did. thursday were always kinda acceptable to like though, all those godspeed! you black emperor references

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save all this talk for the poll!

this is the most conversational this thread has ever been and i'm enjoying it so much!

tru sorry

ahaha it's ok, i also sorta agree

Did anybody listen to One For The Team back in the day? This is one of my fav pop-punk records of the last decade and I've been coming back to it a ton the last few months.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmfq_PwyvPo

i have no idea what this record is! i'm so excited!

oh wow yeah this is great. thank u evan

Yeah it's an old, dear friend of mine. Very much a product of its time, kind of a DIY stab at Tegan & Sara x 2009 Warped Tour x Silversun Pickups-era alt-rock thing, but the songs cut so deep and some of these tracks are monsters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLPxQsExomo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixNeF_9tBQI

Tegan & Sara x 2009 Warped Tour x Silversun Pickups-era alt-rock thing

oh no! it's... my Aesthetic

will check it out

been on a little silversun pickups kick for a bit now

same, mostly in anticipation of their tour with 3eb

lol yeah, between Brand New Eyes and Sainthood and Romance is Boring and this record, this was an era that catered to me to almost ridiculous extremes.

(I was also seeing 3EB live a ton around that time, too, mostly by coincidence)

same, mostly in anticipation of their tour with 3eb

― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, February 10, 2017 1:41 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is good. i will partake.

they're playing the s/t all the way through, it's gonna rule, can't wait to graduate

Stephan Jenkins still rocks a hoodie very well. I interviewed him years ago and he described 3eb as "slammingly misunderstood," and that wording always stuck with me for some reason

lmao

y'know even though the years have proven that Tim Kasher is basically Diet Greg Dulli I still have a huge soft spot for the run from Semantics of Song to The Ugly Organ (and the first three Good Life albums)

me2

(relistening to Young Simon Faves in what will be a long preparation for the poll)

"helped" by the fact that Domestica accurately predicted the eventual vibe of my first live-in relationship

y'know even though the years have proven that Tim Kasher is basically Diet Greg Dulli I still have a huge soft spot for the run from Semantics of Song to The Ugly Organ (and the first three Good Life albums)

yeah that exactly the amount of cursive/good life i like. the few songs i've heard from his new solo record sounded pretty good in an early good life way

between Brand New Eyes and Sainthood and Romance is Boring

Taking this down as evidence for my RiB is emo stand.

also does anyone remember the Nintendo Fusion Tour?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-08UCO2Zec8M/TuKaQd3SxKI/AAAAAAAAAPE/oc3E4BTMyR0/s1600/donkeykonga.jpg

Those Ugly Organ B-sides and those EPs they recorded while Greta was in the band are all essential, too. Every thing Kasher did got wildly uneven after that, but Mama, I'm Swollen is wayyyyy underrated. Some of his best songs are on that one.

Los Campesinos count as emo for sure (I have never liked 'em tho)

first three lc records are v emo in their dna

Very happy to be finding no resistance to this.

Romance is Boring has some of my favorite lyrics of any record from that era. And yeah, super emo:

Please just let me be the one to keep track
Of the freckles and the moles on your back

for some reason that makes me wonder if Arab Strap should be eligible

lol i'm open to the argument

naaaaaah

Very happy to be finding no resistance to this.

― devvvine, Friday, February 10, 2017 2:07 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well i'm gonna insist on johnny foreigner being eligible so it'd be weird for me to draw a line

let's not forget that Conor Oberst guested on Hug and Pint

I dunno they don't feel like a bridge too far to me (tho, like, B&S obviously are) but I'm not gonna die on that hill

well i'm gonna insist on johnny foreigner being eligible so it'd be weird for me to draw a line

― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, February 10, 2017 9:12 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

with you there, all in for 'salt, peppa and spindarella'

at the time of lifted i for sure thought of bright eyes as emo but in hindsight for some reason it feels more indie singer-songwriter'y? obv this has something to do w/ the trajectory his career took since then but lifted seems of a piece w/ the rest of his catalog - like maybe he was never emo it was like one of those things where something presents as X but it turns out it was coincidental and actually it turned out to be Y all along.

yeah agree. interested to see how you end up framing this whole thing with which inclusions/exclusions. good luck

I would say all Oberst things count as emo until you hit, say, Cassadaga.

(both Desaparecidos records are damn near essential pop-punk, also)

imo bright eyes doesn't count, desaparecidos does (the first is as straight up of an emo record as you can get in its design), but i won't fight anyone over it

How do people feel about 'The Blood, The Body, The Machine'?

nah

thermals have more in common with like the breeders than they do emo

is this just an emo/poppunk thing or is screamo / hardcore gonna be involved too?

.... that's a tough call

Fevers and Mirrors is maybe the most emo thing ever

I think Thermals almost count as pop-punk but I'm inclined to agree with brad

imo it will be more fun if we include screamo

screamo for sure going to be included

Fevers and Mirrors is maybe the most emo thing ever

in terms of the actual songwriting? eh

hell yeah, at least the bits I remember ("The Calendar Hung Itself" stands out for this), though I could use a relisten

"calendar" is the closest it gets imo

anyway iirc i said upthread i wouldn't fight anyone over this so i'm not sure why i'm doing it now lol

lol I don't know why I'm arguing about records I have 0% chance of voting for and haven't listened to in full in over a decade

Haha. not really sure where else to post this but there's just enough pop-punk in here to warrant sharing. I spent like 2 hours messing w this last night:
http://themagicipod.com
normally i scoff at stuff like that but i couldn't resist

lol touch the sky / soul meets body >>>>>

having a great time with lose control + you only live once

looool at country grammar + sugar, we're going down

nice thats a good one. so many solid pairings.

Domestica is such a great record, to go back a couple dozen posts.

blood command fall enough into a venn diagram of like... actual pop metal, metalcore, post-hardcore, emo, etc. that i think i can post them here. their new song is wonderful https://soundcloud.com/tigerfysisiskformat/blood-command-cult-drugs

is that a radio rip or something? the compression makes it unlistenable for me

nature of soundcloud i think. try bandcamp? https://bloodcommand.bandcamp.com/track/cult-drugs or spotify https://open.spotify.com/track/01wtyqu6JITgDWi4jKdk0R

lmao i am OBSESSED with this song

It's good

ok yeah this is great

Choon

omg at the mashup machine

Not sure if it got discussed anywhere last year (still no search feature?) but I keep coming back to this Ian Sweet LP. Not many other bands that can pick me up and make my stomach churn in the same song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWDLfQQ0u4Y

If It Makes You Less Sad I Will POLL Emo Albums

this ought to be good :)

This Estates album slays

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6yff_whqj4

hey Brad, you like Camp Cope, right? Smalltown NZ band fruit juice parade's first single is kind've on that buzz: https://fruitjuiceparade.bandcamp.com/

Also, can't remember if I posted about this last year, but here's a comp of current stuff from China/Japan/Indonesia/Singapore: https://qiiisnacksrecords.bandcamp.com/album/emotion-no

apparently there will be new Antarctigo Vespucci (Jeff Rosenstock + Chris Farren) soon which makes me happy

it's like a cornucopia of active emo threads

https://phatnphunky.bandcamp.com

"All proceeds to be donated to Planned Parenthood."

oh man All Dressed Up In Dreams is my favorite Merritt song from my favorite of his records and Elaiza Santos is the perfect person to cover it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePnrP7sIH_c

Still catching up on everything but faves from this year have been Oliver Houston and Dryjacket. This track is particularly delightful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h01AQ7_3C6g

It's also been a dream winter for emo gigs in the UK! So far I've caught The Hotelier, Tiny Moving Parts, The Wonder Years, PUP, Pinegrove, Crying... Martha this month. TMP were the happiest band I have ever seen in my life.

Am I missing a Spotify/YouTube playlist for this year's thread? If not, I'll happily throw one together.

Everybody reading this: don't forget to vote in the EMO POLL! You have until tomorrow to send in your ballot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyP9Qi1OfaA

Dug that Acceptance track. Not familiar with them.

brad I finally was able to finish that acceptance album today. really good front to back modern pop rock album thanks for the rec.

new sorority noise album out - it's kinda like a deja entendu knock-off but the second track lyrics about fucking god and listening to the gaslight anthem and i'm enjoying it. some lyrical clunkers but this is def the best thing they've ever done imo.

lol when i wrote that i had no idea they just covered "Me vs. Maradona vs. Elvis" as a single

https://sororitynoise.bandcamp.com/track/me-vs-maradona-vs-elvis-brand-new

(i like the stuff on the album more than the cover)

it's embarrassing to admit but i'm kinda smitten w/ this sorority noise album

the line "I'm not trying to say it's easy / But I'm trying to say it's fine" has been stuck in my head for days

It's fun. Nothing to embarrassed about. The Old Grey album that came out last year was pretty good too.

p4k gave it an 8. normally i don't care how p4k reviews an album but i just read all the those old anti-emo p4k reviews of classic albums of the genre a few weeks ago.

i doubt this is the right thread for them but maybe the only place on ilm i can admit i am really digging this Creeper - Eternity, In Your Arms album which is horror punk and so somewhat related to emo/pop-punk at least to me?

I'm finally getting around to cleaning up the last few 2016 genre playlists and building out 2017. The plan was to wait to post them in a cannonball once they were all finalized but, since tangenttangent asked, here's an early shot off the forward bow for you:

ILM's 2017 Rolling Emo Thread Spotify Playlist

I'm going to try to update these quarterly and drop a note on thread to alert when I do.

the new album by the maine rules! not really emo but they were considered emo at one point? kinda third eye blind-y, which also blends into some 1975-y moments

I was just muttering "Maine Eye Blind" to myself...

I like the Rosenstock-produced Smith St Band album quite a bit

^^^^ this is good as hell

I find the dude a bit wearying over 45 mins but individually the songs are really strong, the opener in particular is such a vintage emo jam

still not sure whether Hey Violet (who i love) slots in here, since i flit back and forth on which side of the indie poptimist/Paramore dynamic they really plant their feet in

i feel like they've been posted in the rolling pop thread before but i'll allow it

the smith st band record hit #3 on the aussie charts this week, officially making them the most emo nation on the planet

Juggling the needs and schedules of three bands sounds daunting, but to hear Chris Carrabba tell it, it's a necessary part of his creativity, with each band benefiting the others. After reaching success with Dashboard Confessional in the early 2000s, he rejoined the reactivated band Further Seems Forever in 2010, and debuted the Americana and folk-influenced Twin Forks in 2013. All three bands have new albums in various stages of completion -- new Dashboard and Twin Forks albums are "pretty close to done," while a new Further Seems Forever EP is "in gestation" -- and Carrabba has been performing live with multiple bands, sometimes within days of each other.

!!!

wait, carrabba's doing another fsf release?!!!??!

god help me dashboard tickets go on sale today and i'm thinking about going again

Hey guys. I generally stay away in fear from ILM, but I was looking for some recommendations. Not much of a deep punk taste, liked it in the '90s, didn't branch out much from NOFX/Green Day/Operation Ivy/Bad Religion. 2000s pop-punk came and I was generally turned off by a lot of the bands coming out. Like some were OK, but.. in any case I'm a dilettante on this genre, mostly... bear in mind.

Was listening to an album in my iTunes library that still kills for me some reason. I haven't really heard much that hit me in just the right way called Fifth Hour Hero. (I also don't know how well known this band is, only that I discovered them right before they broke up. Some cartoonist recommended them, I think.) In particular their last EP (You Have Hurt My Business and My Reputation Too) and last album (Not Revenge... Just a Vicious Crush) are just fantastic. something about them reaches into my heart, like they jumped from a decade earlier sidestepping a lot of the style from the mid-'00s. Some shades of Japanese rock/pop from that era too, though I'm not gonna try to explain why I'm feeling it. The lead vocalist has a good style, and even the guy who sings the odd track here and there isn't bad. Crisp production, drums, angsty emotionally lyrics totally sold by by a great voice. Yet, admittedly, not super original? But there's something there, I don't know. Anyway, if anyone knows this band and/or could point me in the direction of music like it, I'd really appreciate it.

If you're curious, look up "Everything I Won't Miss" and "My Sympathies".

(I did a little research and found that they had some connection to Against Me!, appearing as background vocalists on one album and being on the same label at some point, but... that band didn't really do it for me at all, like most pop-punk bands to be honest.)

You might see if there's anything you respond to the same way here:

https://open.spotify.com/user/thesoundsofspotify/playlist/6IovjBTXeMtrEqJjd8vrla

Thanks! Will definitely check that out

hey Nhex!

Have you listened to Knapsack?

never heard of 'em! will give a try

just a reminder that there's a thread spotify list to explore too:
https://open.spotify.com/user/forksclovetofu/playlist/0nLJrzRAFkOIdWKDftGJLK

thanks! will check that out too

I saw rvivr tonight and they fuckin ruuuled

I'm still listening to the Sorority Noise record quite a bit. It's excellent.

my favorite record so far is mostly emo adjacent, lovely little lonely by the maine. attn: spottie if you haven't heard it

I feel like I should mention that Disperse record again on this thread after trying to pimp it on the metal thread...it's really something and might appeal to emo fans since there's some serious sonic crossover with the 1975. I don't really know how to explain them to people. "emo-adjacent" is definitely stretching it though lol. admittedly I haven' heard much straight-up emo this year that I've been into.

New Rainer Maria single:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV1tDnzv5ss

Not exactly what I expected, but for a comeback single it has a nice swagger and confidence. That can only bode well for the album.

the new stuff they've played live is all really good, i dig this song for sure

not quite pop-punk but of interest to fun guitariers: the glory of Partner
https://soundcloud.com/youve-changed-records/partner-everybody-knows-1

thx Brad I'll check out the Maine record for sure.

whoa the smidley record rules

also the new manchester orchestra record seems like it's gonna rule hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaeWss85_vg

y'all were right about the sorority noise record

lmao at the way they rip off the cars on "car

I v much liked the last album but this one is a big step up. sits nicely with all the other recent crushing albums about death

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVemUOCAuds

i'm seeing sorority noise this next week!!

anyone know any of these sn openers? Forth Wanderers / The Obsessives / Shannen Moser

Forth Wanderers are good!

I hadn't figured out that Smidley is the Foxing guy...I knew there was a twinge of recognition. Neat record!

yeah it kinda sounds like the wackiest possible kevin devine record. it rocks

Incidentally I saw KD live a few weeks ago - I thought it was going to be a full band show, instead it was solo. I was a bit disappointed at first but he was great. I teared up in public like a good emo kid.

Also he mentioned we can expect another Bad Books record at...some point

yesssss

OH and imo the new Chastity Belt record counts as emo and it's *great*

lol i found that record extremely dull but chastity belt are not for me

I can definitely understand that, they're (purposely) not very dynamic, but they key into an emotional register that really works for me

http://www.spin.com/featured/best-emo-revival-albums-ranked/

list made me realize that even though i start this thread every year i don't like very many emo revival bands lol

mostly i think the best album on that list by a mile (hop along) is there under false pretenses

also that driver friendly's bury a dream is better than any album on there

missing some other obv choices some of which rated highly in our poll

i would like to go on record suggesting that modern baseball record is only half good

wait, modern baseball broke up?

rip, they were OK

I prefer the previous modern baseball record tbh

there's a bunch on there I haven't heard yet!

btw the SN show was bonkers good

Going through that list. Keep You is so much better than The Lack Long After, I have no idea why people prefer PBTT in screamo mode.

and i def don't think the albatross is better than dealer, or whenever, if ever (ugh so dull) is better than harmlessness

so it's so weird during the obsessives set they kept bringing these guys up to sing the songs but they couldn't really carry a tune and they didn't really know the songs (they kept looking at their phones to sing/read the lyrics). is this something they normally do or what

I didn't hate that Spin list. Maybe 1 album per band would have helped a touch, especially when it's 30. Weird to exclude Waxahatchee but not Swearin.' Feel like that first Waxahatchee record is more suitably emo.

Is there a rolling punk thread this year?

I Hate Sex have some screamo qualities so I guess they're ok here.

https://ihatesex.bandcamp.com/album/world-of-grief

I was just asking off-board about the "rolling punk/non-indie underground" threads, which seem to have stopped in 2015?

fuckit, I made one: Rolling punk/non-indie underground 2017

THERE'S AN I HATE SEX ALBUM?!??!?!?!?!

Dude I can't wait to hear the whole thing.

the Tigers Jaw record is boringly pleasant yet pleasantly boring?

also *really* enjoying the Mystery Weekend record - full of fun little twists and turns crammed into 26 mins. I knew I recognized the singer, took me a minute to realize it was the Protest the Hero guy!

tigers jaw are generally pleasantly boring. they almost get there every time. great musicians though

new manchester orchestra record might be my aoty? best rock band in the world right now especially since brand new are like never going to release another record

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71U_qjHLM58

oh also, y'all, the captain we're sinking record is AMAZING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lts0CsKoQ4

are either of these streaming anywhere

manorch doesn't come out for another month, captain we're sinking stream is here https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/captain-were-sinking-the-king-of-no-man

nice, thanks!

new Turnover in August

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6PpLn_6Sa4

yeah i like that song! kinda interested if it'll diverge from peripheral vision more than that

I'm sort of obsessed with "Change Irreversible" and this sounds totally in that ballpark so I'm pleased

both manorch (love that shorthand) singles are really really nice

I'm not sure where to put this song--I get a Weakerthans vibe from the lyrics (emo?), and they're on SideOne Dummy (pop/punk?)--so I'm putting it here. Point is, I'm loving it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NdNJtMhxc0

They opened for Beach Slang a couple of years ago. I liked their 2015 album Imaginary Life quite a bit. "Plans" is great. If this is an indication of where they're going with their sound, I'm in.

worriers rule

so Creeper's Eternity, In Your Arms is basically the UK response to The Black Parade huh

oh shit i finally got around to listening to that creeper record and imo this is the record that comes closest to collapsing the pop-punk/glam metal dichotomy, it's so ambitious and embarrassing. i LOVE it

hahaha I was hoping you'd be into it!

their economy is really impressive!

oh thank god i'm not the only person who likes that album i'm not totally crazy

ilx album of the year, i'm calling it

lol

I'm listening to this again and at least 20 bands have sprung to mind over the first 5 tracks, it's really something

sorta wish the record had mcr-quality sharpness in its production, it's real foggy sounding, but that's my only complaint so far

has anyone heard this record from 2011? would've been a good fit in our emo poll tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFchFdk0yck

this is nice, how did you find it?

someone posted it in the manchester orchestra thread on chorus.fm

the opening track on the Turtlenecked record really reminds me of Say Anything

absolutely loving the Katie Ellen record (also x-posted to the twee thread)

Playlist updated for the half year mark; this is an active thread!

ILM's Rolling Emo Thread 2017 Spotify Playlist

saw Turtlenecked the other night...they're like Weezer meets Of Montreal or something? or is that insane?

they were good. singing drummer!

great Rosenstock set at Pitchfork, featuring a few amusing surprises I will not spoil and all of the Worry medley except for "Blast Damage Days"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6JyBAAbp1I

This is maybe my favorite thing in this mode from this year!

The Gospel Youth

https://open.spotify.com/album/2BQCZnBbZxRA1bbYxUBEvi

i've been enjoying the new s/t album from The Life and Times:

https://thelifeandtimes.bandcamp.com/album/the-life-and-times

that's Allen Epley from Shiner plus a couple other dudes. shimmering guitar-rock that's shoegazey at times. think it sorta fits in this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r0NQxpStlA

with julie doiron on vox, cancer bats backing

woah, that rules!

I feel like the emo thread's been a bit sleepy this year. more emo!

i need to listen to more :/

when I get up tomorrow I'll cobble together a halftime+ list

not as many bangers as the past couple years.

emo/pop-punk/dogs on skateboards/etc albums I have been enjoying this year to varying degrees, using a loose genre definition as always:

Sorority noise
Mystery Weekend
Hater
Creeper
Katie Ellen
Ratboys
Smidley
Charly Bliss
Rozwell Kid
Cayetana
Turtlenecked
Single Mothers

i haven't been keeping up as much

are you shitting me that julie doiron is in a punk band

yeah I have never cared about Cancer Bats but I am excited for this development

can Kathleen Edwards come back and front NOFX?

thanks simon, have only heard one of those (sorority noise).

oh shit I forgot Smith St Band but I assume y'all have already heard that

that said, so far none of these are EOY list contenders save for Sorority Noise and maybe Katie Ellen

of your list i'd say creeper and charly bliss

"hiding with boys" has changed my life

hahaha I KNEW that would be yr fave. great song. the whole album really levels up starting there

I almost think we should have a dedicated thread for them cause I'm about to dig into their three EPs, two of which apparently extend the "story" (lol) of this album

Manchester orchestra is out on Spotify now

creeper album cover has me intrigued

spottie check out the creeper record! i think you'll find stuff to like about it

the manchester orchestra record is officially my album of the year until further notice bc i started crying within twenty seconds of the first song

^^^ welcome to the rolling emo thread

i made an album thread for cope a few years ago that got no traction whatsoever but i feel like doing it again for a black mile to the surface

yeah Spottie the Creeper album rules. as it turns out the EPs are also great and kinda make up a sweet album of their own

that manch orch album opener is really great. listened to the whole thing a couple times today. really nice album, seems a little more reserved than past work? Guess i didnt really dive into Cope much but Mean Everything to Nothing def had a little more bombast

The Maze will be a show stopper live ,for sure. When those background singers come in...

having discovered Emmylou Harris Wrecking Ball and this within a couple days of each other all i can do is fight internally about which album opener is better.

About halfway through this Creeper record and getting really heavy Sing the Sorrow era AFI vibes. Loving it.

Misery is like the most emo song ever"

Pretty, but he don't tell you about it
Winter scarves and skirts of velvet
Still drink just like we did in school
I passed your old house down by the cemetery
Club nights and university
When your friends sing 'Born to Run', baby, resist
Cause we were 'Born to Drift'

If you could see the wreck I am these days
You'd have new reasons to stay away
Just hold my hand for a little while
Misery never goes out of style

yeah I keep noticing clever little lines in there

ok brad otm about manchester also started tearing up 20 seconds in i have no idea why but damn

Misery is like the most emo song ever

I may or may not have listened to it a dozen times during my commutes about town today

Manchester is on Comedy Bang Bang latest ep

since brad's not gonna plug his own thread:

thread of best rock album of year 2017, 'a black mile to the surface' by manchester orchestra

Misery is like the most emo song ever

I may or may not have listened to it a dozen times during my commutes about town today

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, July 29, 2017 11:33 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol same

Not sure if Citizen ever got any love here, but I really enjoy their last album. New single is solid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-9KBFvxKzE&feature=youtu.be

links dead for me

let's see if this works

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-9KBFvxKzE

i like that

The People Like You record is recommended for those who like their indie-emo on the jazzy/mathy side

https://open.spotify.com/album/4g2YHQhRQNE535jReJuzrs

trumpet adds a different touch.

http://www.npr.org/2017/08/10/541615482/first-listen-rainer-maria-s-t

i mean this record is only faintly emo (mostly it's a real chunky, oceanic rock record) but i love rainer maria and i think this is one of the best things they've ever released

love the rainer maria record. also having seen them twice in the last couple years i think they are as good/better as they've ever been live

yeah they freakin' rock live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4mBJ7Dx-BU

NEW FRONT BOTTOMS ALBUM OCTOBER 13!!!!!1111

Dig the single.

new turnover is: 1. excellent 2. balearic rock

I couldn't get into it on first listen, it's SO chill, but I'll keep trying

emo & balearic??? my 2 favorite genres!

sorta hoping they straight up migrate to jazz rock next album. "curiosity" comes close

Brand New is now RateYourMusic's #1 album of 2017. Not that it means anything, but it was a nice suprise after seeing Kendrick up there for most of the year.

i just noticed that p4k gave it a BNM

the new julien baker comes out soon too apparently? what a year.

New Iron Chic yall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIwEb9cG_aE

not bad but I'm still annoyed we get them instead of RVIVR as the local Propagandhi opener

i love the sorority noise album

is there a rolling thread where i should talk about the partner album? it's brilliant. it's not emo but i think y'all will love it

https://partnerband.bandcamp.com/album/in-search-of-lost-time

ha, this is immediately charming

also emo-adjacent: the Phoebe Bridgers album is out today. There's a late-Kozelek cover that actually works.

holy shit at the Prozzak joke on the Partner album!!

i prolly should have just posted about this itt instead of making a thread

soccer mommy - collection

Which song is the Prozzak joke on?

"Daytime TV" is basically me at 11-years-old when I faked sick so much they thought I had hypoglycemia.

"Play the Field" is an amazing song.

otm

ah haha, I just listened on Spotify which has all the skits. I'm sure I still have a dusty copy of Hot Show in a stack of loose CDs (its natural home).

Partner are so cool. My only complaint is that Lucy needs to have more lead vocals. Josée is fantastic though.

I overlooked this year's Tim Kasher album (the soundtrack to a musical film he wrote/directed) but it's his best thing in a while

new circa survive is their best in yeeaaars, maybe their best ever. having said that, i think to most it will sound like Another Circa Survive Record

anybody in this thread love knapsack and the jealous sound? bc some of those dudes are in a new band called racquet club, and their new album came out today, and it’s pretty much exactly what you’d expect of a post-knapsack/jealous sound record, and i love it

New TWIABP record is my favorite thing they’ve done yet. Now concise than the last one but lots of knockouts

https://theworldis.bandcamp.com/album/always-foreign

one listen to that confirmed i’ll never really love the world is

Last album was better. This one didn't grab me.

the Nervous Dater album is sounding pretty fun on first listen

^^^ diggin' the title track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccdzf7VJp7I

i’d like to upgrade my opinion of the new circa survive. i LOVE it

oh i guess upthread i said it was maybe their best. yep

foxing + tigers jaw opened for manchester orchestra last night. i liked foxing's set more than i've ever liked their recorded music. the man o show was great of course.

dang, good lineup!

new circa survive is their best in yeeaaars, maybe their best ever. having said that, i think to most it will sound like Another Circa Survive Record

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, September 27, 2017 1:14 PM (five days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i’d like to upgrade my opinion of the new circa survive. i LOVE it

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, October 2, 2017 12:25 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh i guess upthread i said it was maybe their best. yep

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, October 2, 2017 12:27 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

going to check the hell out of this record

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a4162669022_16.jpg

this is sorta out of nowhere but i'm really enjoying this odd and gorgeous emo record from a philly band named caracara https://caracaraphilly.bandcamp.com/

great art

actually yeah this album is really really awesome

i was already pretty into it and the sax solo on "oh brother" just knocked me out, wow

anybody in this thread love knapsack and the jealous sound? bc some of those dudes are in a new band called racquet club, and their new album came out today, and it’s pretty much exactly what you’d expect of a post-knapsack/jealous sound record, and i love it

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson)

yuuuup

https://ironchic.bandcamp.com/album/you-cant-stay-here

the caracara record is still in regular rotation, that thing is the real deal

also agreed with archcarrier that the racquet club record is basically a continuation of the jealous sound and it fucking rules. "blood on the moon" is such a great song, he has such a strange and individual ear for hooks

I like that Cara Cara record a lot!

oh my god this oliver houston album just knocked me on my ass

It only took me eight months to notice this album, thank you discover weekly

legit lol-ed at the Sharon Van Etten in-joke Oliver Houston end that record with. Sounds like they've got quite a few of those geeky allusions scattered throughout the record but that one especially has gotta confound the shit out of anybody who doesn't get the reference.

https://daily.bandcamp.com/2017/10/16/emos-greatest-second-acts/

With the news (to me) that Jeremy Enigk is releasing a new album this month.

fuck the Partner album is so addictive, more power-pop than emo but so fun. and funny! I wish more albums were funny!

jeremy enigk is releasing a new album this month?!?!?!?!??!?!? aaa!!!!!!

wait it came out last week?!?!?!!

brb

i always get overwhelmed by how beautiful his albums are. production is usually perfect too

That oliver Houston album is great. Loving the new Front Bottoms, Iron Chic and Worriers records.

man how did jeremy enigk release his best ever solo album in 2017

it's so beautiful

the racquet club record has been playing over and over in my head for the past month

I admit the Turnover record wasn't doing much for me but ahead of seeing them on tuesday (w/ Emma Ruth Rundle and Elvis Depressedly supporting, which feels like a dream lineup contrived just for me) I have been giving it another shot and it sounds so lush and good

man how did jeremy enigk release his best ever solo album in 2017

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, October 18, 2017 5:20 PM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's so beautiful

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, October 18, 2017 5:30 PM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just finished the first song and it was perfection.

that album is in my top five this year, he killed it

about halfway through its very pretty. think its gonna stick for me too

a very emo story...
news editor of consequence of sound has been catfishing women for years using the photos of Topshelf Records owner

.@toomuchfuzz (Michelle Geslani) has been using my identity and likeness to catfish women online since at least 2011. a statement: pic.twitter.com/N4qik8Dvwj

— LiLdRuMmErBoY85 (@kevinduquette) November 2, 2017

My statement regarding yesterday's allegations @kevinduquette pic.twitter.com/jYf0rtPDVW

— mich e//e (@toomuchfuzz) November 3, 2017

wow @ pulling the "coming out" apology pivot post-spacey

Pianos Become the Teeth sound like an emo band again and I'm not sure how to feel about that yet

https://open.spotify.com/track/5kEHz2d1bafXdAem3PfIya

oh what's up rolling emo thread. i like the new dashboard song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SANXNco_y4

yesssss

This seems a key read

https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/unraveling-the-sexism-of-emos-third-wave/

there's probably an instance in the brand new thread of me... not exactly defending "me vs. maradona" but thinking it was more self-aware and self-loathing than, say, any song from your favorite weapon, and ofc that makes me feel sick now

Where did we lose the plot? When I think about the decades that immediately preceded third-wave emo—about D.C. punk, riot grrrl, Kurt Cobain proclaiming women the future of rock—I’m astonished that it happened at all.

what jenn gets at here is something i've thought about a lot. i mean, nothing moves in a straight line; things fluctuate and loop around themselves. but still, as a genre emo started out as a somewhat gendered response to hardcore (i mean it was still a boy's club but it was a boy's club that seemed to long to subvert or reject masculinity) that over the course of 15 years rerouted itself into outright misogyny. (of course this description kinda flattens how many different things emo became just within the '90s)

I think it came from how early emo was about really laying your insides bare, putting your emotional baggage right out there. This idea gave gross dudes what they saw as license to just spit out all their misogynistic baggage out there because that's what they were feeling without the smallish scene politics to keep their shit in check. (I mean early emo wasn't all wine and roses either but there's definitely a change when mainstream emo hit larger audiences.)

^^ yeah that's basically the conclusion i've come to myself

Baring your soul can lead to some terrifying shit if your soul is filled with garbage.

tbh I don't really think there's anything wrong with that "Sugar We're Going Down" line (though there's plenty of other ugly or gross Wentz lyrics esp from that era)

agreed and agreed. i was just thinking of the distance in perspective just between from under the cork tree and infinity on high

wait actually, sorry, i’m drunk, which “sugar we’re going down” lyric are we referring to

the "notch in your bedbost / line in a song" one

anyway, that new Camp Cope song is massive

yes that line is great

i'm super loving Young Jesus

That Pinegrove statement is insanely vague but still troubling.

I might be erring on the side of optimism here but it reads like a cautious reaction/reflection as opposed to damage control (this is of course subject to change as facts emerge)

I suspect it's quite bad. The statement twists itself into knots trying to avoid saying what he did, which completely negates the apology and makes me suspect the worst.

It's so easy to nitpick these apologies, because they're inherently self-serving, but this one particularly left a foul taste in my mouth. He avoids saying "I did it," or even mentioning what "it" is. And he plays the "I'm trying to respect the privacy of the victim" card, which would be thoughtful if not for the two long paragraphs of superfluous identifying details about her, which do nothing except to justify how he might have "monumentally misread" the situation. Gross.

it's an extremely confusing statement

It's confusing by design, I think. I've seen quite a few people on Twitter who think he's apologizing for sleeping with consenting fans on the road and don't understand what the big deal is. That part of the apology is conversational catnip, but it's also beyond the scope of what he's been accused of and is apologizing for. It just blurs things and changes the conversation.

I'm inclined to agree with you Evan. It's either one of two things, what simon said, that it's just an overly cautious attempt to get ahead of the game of something possibly small, or it's intentionally obfuscating something much bigger. I feel like the latter comes across as more likely given how vague the apology is.

unfortunately from what i've heard (which is... just whispers at the moment, so i'm not in a position to clarify beyond this extremely vague post, but hopefully it can kinda... prepare people for what's going to happen next) this isn't good

fucking hell

Nobody's perfect and most publications are trying to cover this stuff sensitively, but I suspect music media is going to have to have a conversation with itself about how it's covered this story. Letting an abuser define the narrative is bad precedent—it makes the story not about the abuse, but about the abuser's soul-searching journey— and I suspect the widespread adoption of his "sexual coercion" terminology is going to look very embarrassing soon.

It's a tricky story to report, especially with what's on the record right now, but it's not the press's job to do P.R. for an abuser.

eh in this case i don’t think the press had much choice

I mean, this headline has been chilling on the front page of Pitchfork all afternoon: Pinegrove Cancel Tour After Accusation of Sexual Coercion Against Frontman Evan Stephens Hall

doesn't look great for him either way

if i said "i just hope this doesn't bury the next Pinegrove album forever" is that "haha funny/true" or HEY MAN NOT FUNNY! in this delicate time on the internet

imo you should keep that shit to yourself

xxp Lots of headlines frame the story around his apology, letting him get ahead of the narrative. EW's, for instance: "Pinegrove cancels tour after 'sexual coercion' accusation: 'I am so sorry,' singer says"

And this A.V. Club report is... just about as bad as it could be. This lead gushes with appreciation about him coming clean "as soon as they were brought to his attention," and frames the narrative around him coming to terms with what he did:

As more and more people get called out for inappropriate abusive behavior in their past, Pinegrove frontman Evan Stephens Hall has decided to issue a response to allegations of misconduct against him as soon as they were brought to his attention rather than wait until the backlash had begun to swell. In a post on the band’s Facebook page, Hall said that he has been accused of sexual coercion, saying that he now realizes he abused his power as a member of the band by partaking in “flirtatious” and “intimate” encounters with fans. “I’ve reached the conclusion now that that’s not ever appropriate,” Hall writes, “even if they initiate it. There will always be an unfair power dynamic at play in these situations and it’s not ok for me to ignore that.”

I get that these are weird circumstances, but we gotta do better than that.

evan literally the only information available is the apology

the av club report sucks, agreed

xxp fair enough, thx

new Glassjaw out next week. I like the single, sort of Deftonesy in the verse/chorus dynamic

i’ve never really liked glassjaw so i’m curious

tbh same, Worship and Tribute sounds cool but never did much for me in terms of the actual content

that new song sounds extremely cool though

It's more post-hardcore than emo but man this Flagland record is the craziest rock record I've heard in a long time, a big freewheeling shoestring opus. it seems beamed in from 2002 in the best way possible

https://flagland.bandcamp.com/album/two-brothers-and-a-ghost

I was listening to that just now! It was sounding kinda good - I think I turned it off during track 2 to check a few other things out, but you say it's worth hearing straight through?

I'm still only halfway through cause it's so fucking long - the vocalist is the weakpoint (as usual) but I'm digging the dynamism

not one but four literary quotes on the bandcamp page

this record sure is like, 1/5 terrible and 4/5ths good

lmao yes that's about right. if they get an actual producer for the next one I could see them making a real killer

I just get excited when bands get overambitious, it seems like everyone's making tidy, safe little records these days

Seconding the People Like You recommendation above. Sort of like American Football if vocals were provided by The Anniversary.

https://peoplelikeyoumusic.bandcamp.com/album/verse

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/12/04/young-and-dumb-inside

^^ i loved that

ok so i've heard the glassjaw (it's really weird) and now i can do this:

top emo/pop-punk albums 2017:

jeremy enigk: ghosts
manchester orchestra: a black mile to the surface
circa survive: the amulet
rainer maria: s/t
paramore: after laughter
glassjaw: material control
caracara: summer megalith
creeper: eternity, in your arms
racquet club: racquet club
front bottoms: going grey
oliver houston: whatever works
smidley: smidley
smith street band: more scared of you than you are of me
iron chic: you can't stay here
worriers: survival pop
sorority noise: you're not as ____ as you think

Yeah I think you got most of the really good ones there. Not a huge emo year for me personally, and uh certain things dampened my enthusiasm

teotfw?

more like bnsf

i don't really feel like having a conversation about it but basically a) it feels wrong to leave my favorite album off the list for non-musical reasons and b) hills seem like uncomfortable places to die so i'm trying to avoid that

mileages vary for all sorts of reasons but tbh I haven't been able to listen to Science Fiction since the details came out. And I tried.

i've def felt a little weird relistening to certain songs from deja entendu but the new one is still great imo but i know i'm unusual in my tolerance for consuming ethically questionable media. i don't judge anyone who has come to a different perspective for sure. i'm a little annoyed bc i feel like i'm going to end up censoring myself when balloting comes around but idk there are much worse problems in the world i can live w/ this one.

that’s cool. afaic after reading the accounts of the women involved i can’t fucking listen to it

I love your list. The few I haven't heard, I must check out.

paramore,creeper,front bottoms, oliver houston, smith street band, iron chic, worriers, sorority noise would all make my list.

Some days that Caracara LP is my favorite rock album of the year.

That Sorority Noise album is absolutely mammoth. And Rainer Maria... holy shit; the wow factor never went away with that one. Side A is flawless.

Would also add the Sinai Vessel album and Tall Friend and Club Night EPs to the pile. It's been a pretty sensational year, I think.

Have we talked about the katie Ellen record here? Because that would probably be on my list

no Oso Oso, Brad?

i never actually managed to listen to that album!

i've def felt a little weird relistening to certain songs from deja entendu but the new one is still great imo but i know i'm unusual in my tolerance for consuming ethically questionable media. i don't judge anyone who has come to a different perspective for sure. i'm a little annoyed bc i feel like i'm going to end up censoring myself when balloting comes around but idk there are much worse problems in the world i can live w/ this one.

― Mordy, Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:12 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Feeling this post. I'm annoyed too, not even with self-censorship, but with the fact that I got cheated. The new Brand New album was actually my first Brand New album: the emo-poll on here renewed my interest in the genre, and this came along, and I loved it to bits. Yada yada couple of months later and it's in tatters, because this fuckhead couldn't control himself.

Still think it's a great album, but no love lost in leaving it off the ballot. Not listened to it since I heard the news, but I'll be honest: it did feel like a rough and sudden break-up with something I held dear for a while. But as you say: there are bigger problems.

I loved the Katie Ellen record, simple but potent

yeah the Katie Ellen record is a total charmer

i thought chumped was only ok and i like katie ellen even less but i’m still sorta thrilled that record is resonating with ppl

just nice to see friends of friends making good

are earlier sorority noise albums good? i listened to a bit of one and it seemed to be lacking, something (the humour? the killer arrangements? his delivery was a little less dry maybe) that make 'you're not as _____ as you think' so good to me

new one is the first one that made me care about them at all

there's a new Tiny Moving Parts single - pretty good! album's out in May

Brad, where would you have placed Br@nd N3w in your list if you had included it?

eh i’d rather not say, though i think it’s obvious from how enthusiastic i was about it when it came out

I was afraid you were going to say that.

my remaining hope for 2017 is that Quote Unquote surprise-drops the new Antarctigo Vespucci before the month is out, not sure how likely that really is though

are earlier sorority noise albums good? i listened to a bit of one and it seemed to be lacking, something (the humour? the killer arrangements? his delivery was a little less dry maybe) that make 'you're not as _____ as you think' so good to me

The new one is definitely the crowd-pleaser. Joy, Departed was a very sour record, and the It Kindly Stopped for Me EP is such a rough listen it almost feels like grief rendered into a snuff film. The tougher, alt-rock thing of the new one is a great look for them though.

brad was not lying about the Glassjaw album, easily one of the least compromising reunion records I can recall

the nasty basslines and slurred guitars remind me a bit of Unsane

I'm on it!

"nasty" is the right word i think

simon if you haven't heard them i recommend the two eps glassjaw put out before this record, they were the first glassjaw things i even sorta liked and they sound even better alongside the new album

i like the new one so much that i'm gonna struggle to give a shit about worship & tribute again

that midsection where it just falls into a cavern ("strange hours" / "bastille day") is really cool

I definitely underestimated the caracara album. it's seriously great.

everyone get hyped for next year's black foxxes album, it is phenomenal. for fans of merchandise and manchester orchestra but i think everyone here will be able to get down with it

lmao microwave not merchandise, what is wrong with me

For those compiling your year-end lists, this playlist includes all the available tracks on this thread, organized roughly chronologically in order of mention:

ILM's 2017 Rolling Emo + Pop Punk Thread Spotify Playlist

Enjoying the hell out of the Nervous Dater album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMigoMIkcx8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW6TN9zzObY

y'all check out this extremely baffling synth-heavy prog-emo-metalcore thing i found on the kerrang list

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5PHS8y5ozs

uhhhh wow

I can't tell if I truly love this or if I'm just dazzled by the fact that this particular "epic EDM + metal bits" combo has finally been executed well

same! but i think i really like it!

last track just convinced me that i love it

might be more appropriate on a j-pop thread, but I like this from the Your Name ost.

― devvvine, Tuesday, February 7, 2017 9:59 AM (ten months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gonna let brad make the 2018 thread but happy new Jeff Rosenstock album day!!!

oh cool, I didn't know that was coming

yeah it was a surprise release. he finally wrote his own britpop tune ("TV Stars")

new jeff is pretty good

yes I think that is the correct descriptor, not quite a masterwork/major statement like WORRY was but lots of great and appealingly weird moments

rolling emo/pop-punk/embarrassing music 2018