Fushitsusha: Classic or dud

Nathalie- You have been burned! And I am sure you'll return to this record again, just like the rest of us fushitsusha fans.

Stevo- You must start with double live. What's so remarkable is that some of the 'song' structures are so loose and yet the playing is so focused. Haino's vocals are incredible and fit perfectly.

I undestand if you don't start with it because (here in the UK) it costs £30 pounds (a 2 CD set). I started with the dbl studio album 'I saw it! That of which I could only sense'. That 2 CD set was at noemal prices since it was released by the Uk's paratactile label. A stunning document. I don't agree with Janne that their studio albums sound compressed as 'I saw it ...' led me on to many other albums.

What Fushitsusha have done is deepen psychedelic music and they are essential.

Is anyone going to Le weekend to catch 'em live? I can't go unfortunately...

Still they are great great geat get ge g. By the way A Caution Appears is really good and a lot cheaper than Double Live. Affection is ace if you just want solo Haino beating on his guitar and wailing.

Affection is another incredible release. And if you wnat sonic assault try the last track on his brilliant solo alb 'Watashi Dake'. Just wave upon wave of feedaback sculpted into truly frightening noise, recorded in 1981.

One of the problems with all albums being black and in Japanese is that it is hard to tell them apart.

Lost Araaf= The first (documented) group he led (he got his break by playing harmonica in a doors cover group). I think he played piano in Araaf. There's a CD on PSF but i haven't got it (but will get it).

There's also an early document of a solo performance 'Aima no Gawa'. That's vocals and live electronics (from mid- 70s). Never seen that one.

What's so impressive abt that last track on Watashi Dake (it is an extra track of three available) is that it was recorded in 1981. His guitar playing was already together by that stage, many years before PSF (which came into existence in '85) started putting his stuff out (by the way, for those who haven't got this alb, the actual 10 tracks that make this up are not very loud but there's a lot more to his guitar playing than that- check it out!).

Nathalie- Does your mum listen to any Japanese psychedelic pop?

Anyway, report back and tells us what she thinks?

At least she is willing to listeen. I was listening ti 'I saw it!' a couple of months ago. My dad had just come back from work to say 'hi!' Then he asked me what was that noise outside? I told it's the record I'm playing. Once I said that he shut the door very quickly!

So, all of the above it is.

A very simple translation of Fushitsusha is something along the lines of "breathing life into nonliving things"(eg stereo systems) but Haino said you would have to read a really big book to even begin to understand the meaning of it. If someone has the interview i'm talking about they could give a more accurate quote, but reading Haino interviews can be a pretty fruitless pastime.

Lost Araaf have put out at least two CDs but they're not worth the bother you would have to go to to hear them. Haino seems to be attempting to imitate a saxophone with his vocal chords on much of them.

Haino Keiji (or is it Keiji Haino--eh who cares)

Haino Keiji is his Japanese name and Keiji Haino is the westernised version (ie Haino is his family name).

I love the first one as well though but the second is extra special in my book.

''A very simple translation of Fushitsusha is something along the lines of "breathing life into nonliving things"(eg stereo systems) but Haino said you would have to read a really big book to even begin to understand the meaning of it.''

Thanks! I've only read two interviews: One in Halana mag (see link elsewhere in thread) and the other in the wire. His intentions are pretty clear from the latter. He wants to broaden psychedelic music. Read the wire interview.

Oh, yeah, another in perfect sound forever web zine.

Allegorical gets a lot of flak in reviews. I never heard it myself. What do you like abt that one?

[though i don't know what BTW means]

Vajra's him too, isn't it? That's a great record, very short and pretty.

Vajra (or Vasara) is Haino Keiji, Toshiaki Ishizuka (sometime Fushitsusha drummer) and Kan Mikami (absolutely amazing folk singer but probably more famous as an actor). They've put out a few albums but i prefer their solo albums. Which album are you referring to?

double live (psf 15/16) is one of the most important records of the last decade, but we've covered that already.

I didn't know this so my apologies. From the wire interview (as I recall) Biba Kopf said that Haino formed Fushitsusha in '78/79.

This is a good thread for me. I got some extra information on my favourite bands ever.

Dang, I wish I was going to be in Central Scotland next week. The line-up for this looks great. If you have the chance to go, then you definitely should, because Fushitsusha and Haino are revelatory in a live setting. There is a special energy in their performances which can't be captured on record - maybe it has something do with Haino's stage theatrics and man-in-black mysteriousness, or the sheer volume. They put on the loudest show that I've ever seen at Tonic here in NYC. Not to mention that Shizuka's also on the line-up. It would be awesome to see them play.

downloaded 'origin's hesitation' and just played it and its haino on percussion/vocals and osawa on bass. NO GUITAR! How many 'psych rock' bands do that?

I have to say that I like it but that's just bcz of the fact that there isn't any guitar. His I'm shitting blood-type really make me laugh too (but he does come down a bit in the last, and the longest by far, tracks). Having said that, its ther first alb from them that i've heard that would put off ppl if they were hearing them for the first time but it completely makes sense in terms of what they do, which is a v diff version of what we know as rock music.

With fushitsusha as a trio the bass could sometimes be buried in but here there are no probs and Osawa's licks (especially from the fourth track onwards) are very tasty and perfectly complement haino's percussion.

They cover quite a bit of material. The first track is a bit of a five minute thrash around, the next two completely confused and amused me as haino would do stop start percussion and then the vocal and osawa eventaully coming in...there was quite a bit of playing around with silence throughout but especially in the last two tracks.

and in some ways this is their best studio alb, or should I say that I never really thought of them as a studio band since the live recs on PSF are that much superior (though I saw it!... is pretty fine) and so in some ways, this departure (which was sort of forced on them as takahashi left the band) makes them a band capable of cutting really good records in the studio.

After careful consideration, I think Fushitsusha's top 5 may be:

Live 2
I Saw It!...
Pathetique
Live 1
THe Caution Appears

Not crazy about Allegorical Misunderstanding or Withdrawe This Sable Disclosure ere Devot'd.

And let me just say: C L A S S I C

This is nonsense. Fu-Shitsu-Sha (for it is made up of three Japanese characters (kanji) means something along the lines of "un-person". Alan Cummings has translated it as "man with no qualities". The "fu" and "shitsu" parts mean "un-", "non", the "sha" means "person".

In February 2008, longtime bassist Yasushi Ozawa passed away.

rip

Fuuuuuuuuuck dude

very sad. saw him with fushitsusha in 1996, absolutely towering.

And young as well :-(

rip

Yeah, he was an amazing foil for Haino, his other band Marginal Consort are pretty great too.

much respect to the dude, he was a heavy player in every sense.

rip

Echoing what I said on the noise.as forums, it's very sad that there's now no chance of any further recordings or live shows from the arguably 'classic' Fushitsusha line-up. While I admit I wouldn't have known his name before hearing of his death, from browsing the discography he was fundamental in the vast majority of the Fushitsusha recordings that I know and love, not least the Double Live sets.

R.I.P.

:(
I saw Keiji Haino solo at the Walker in mpls last year, the only US show he was able to play, and it was absolutely paralyzing. Four Twin Reverbs just cranking out layers of bizarre vocal loops and gutting shards of what I can only assume was his guitar.

I have always wanted to see Fishitsusha. Too, too bad.

All I have is Withdrawe, and this dvd I picked up at that show. Can't seem to find these acclaimed live albums, any idea where I should look?

Not for under $50 anyway, and I found zero torrents. Would anyone be willing to burn me double live or something? I want to legitimately buy this, but...don't know how.

they're $40 with postage at Forced Exposure if that helps.

You can get this stuff direct from PSF still : http://www.psfrecords.com/index.html
Around $40 each for Live 1 & 2.

I'm not sure if posting links to mp3s is against the rules here or anything (nothing about in the FAQ), so I'll just mention that the double live albums were posted on Lost-in-Tyme a while back, if you're so inclined

if it's any consolation they are totally worth the 50 dollars.

As mentioned above, it's less than $40 each including postage from Japan when bought directly from PSF. Their prices are postage paid internationally, except for a flat $4 insurance charge on top of the whole order.

I similarly echo the sentiment that it is completely and undoubtedly worth it.

Ohh...oh man... I have to save my dough for a plane ticket to New Zealand ... and I want that White Heaven too.... This hurts me inside.

Has anyone heard Lost Aaraaf?

Oh man that Lost Aaraaf album is fucking strange...I can't even think how to describe it. Recommended!

Oddly enough I just bought the Lost Aaraaf album today and having stuck it on for the first time just now, I had to come see if anyone had ever said anything about it becuase it is indeed "fucking strange".

Bloody great though, it's going straight back on again once it finishes...

I knew this would be you reviving it!

But of course.

P.S. Julio Desouza: I feel like he's a long lost mysterious spiritual guide or something; he was before my (ilx) era, but he's always there on the interesting threads. What's the story?

I have two copies of A Death Never To Be Complete (won them both on ebay at the same time). I've been meaning to ebay my spare copy for about 2 years now, but never get round to it. One of the few bands of whom I have everything.

I just paid a lot of money for that one. You should make a good price on eBay or discogs for that.

All I'm missing is "The Time Is Nigh", which I would most definitely make serious offers for anyone can be persuaded to part with it.

*if anyone

Right. You may think I'm shitting you, krakow, but I was just checking (and putting on) the Fushitsusha CD I have double, and it is "The Time is Nigh" and not (as I'd thought) "A Death etc". I tend to think of it as "the one with Black Cluster on it".

PM me and I'll send it to you. Better that than it lying around here for another two years. If you like (and only if you like) you can perhaps send me something.

Oh my!

I think my heart just stopped. Just be glad you don't live nearby or I'd be running over to kiss you right now! PM most definitely sent.

no worries! I just know that I'll never get round to selling it. (and I don't want any payment from you).

julio is around sometimes. some variation on xyzz or something

Ah, I'll keep an eye out. (Waves at the mythical Julio).

I saw Fushitsusha play at Tonic back in November '99; it was supposed to be a two-set night, one solo Haino set and a Fushitsusha set, but for whatever reason was changed at the last minute to a three-hour Fushitsusha performance that was, no kidding, life-altering. Loads of wall-topplingly loud guitar, but also an astonishing electronics-and-hurdy-gurdy drone section in the middle. Fucking awesome.

P.S. Julio Desouza: I feel like he's a long lost mysterious spiritual guide or something; he was before my (ilx) era, but he's always there on the interesting threads. What's the story?

I'd wondered the same thing. And I recognise xyzzz from avant-gardey London show threads, so this makes sense.

Yeah, he's xyzzz or whatever, and he's an A++ fellow.

Listening right now to "the wound that was given birth to must be bigger than the wound that gave birth".

It is highly recommended not least for the fact that it gives good prominence to Yasushi Ozawa's bass. On many other recordings (especially the double live sets) the bass gets rather smothered in the guitar madness. This album (recorded live in London) gives some real space to the bass.

Yeah, that's one of my favorites. Also love Gold Blood and Withdrawe, this sable disclosure ere devot'd.

Is the first translation of Fushitsusha, as "breathing life into non-living things" potentially valid, or not, as Tim Duke said? This is the meaning that I always had in my head.

What is Robert Musil's book called in Japanese, if Fushitsusha apparently means the same thing ("Man without qualities")?

"A very simple translation of Fushitsusha is something along the lines of "breathing life into nonliving things"(eg stereo systems) but Haino said you would have to read a really big book to even begin to understand the meaning of it"

This is nonsense. Fu-Shitsu-Sha (for it is made up of three Japanese characters (kanji) means something along the lines of "un-person". Alan Cummings has translated it as "man with no qualities". The "fu" and "shitsu" parts mean "un-", "non", the "sha" means "person".

― Tim Duke, Sunday, 30 April 2006 14:30 (3 years ago)

I just wrote a lengthy reply to your query and it somehow got lost...

"Breathing life into non-living things" is not a valid translation of Fu Shitsu Sha. In an interview Haino did once talk of "breathing life into non-living things", but he was not saying that this was the meaning of the group's name, simply that this was the effect/intention of its music.

不 = Fu
失 = shitsu
者 = sha

"Sha" is one of several Kanji that convey the idea of a person/human
"Fu" and "shitsu" both convey the idea of "non-" or "un-". "Fu" is very common indeed, "Shitsu" less so (although I should say my Japanese is very basic".

Alan Cummings (no less) did once translate Fushitsusha as something along the lines of "A man without qualities" (if I recall correctly). Whether this is an indirect Musil reference is a good question, and one which has not been asked of Haino, to my knowledge.

The title of Musil's literary work is however written with different Kanji to those used in Fu Shitsu Sha -- but then you could convey this idea in so many different ways.

Thanks Duke, that sounds pretty definitive to me. Sorry to have got you to restate your case, but it's quite frustrating to have no Japanese myself and so be completely in the dark on this stuff without major help.

non-unhuman

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non-unhuman
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― what u arrestin me for, innit (╓abies), Thursday, 11 June 2009 09:37 (10 hours ago)

I would assume the two negatives enhance rather than contradict each other here.

I finally found the Alan Cummings note on the name Fushitsusha (and if anyone knows what it means, he does!)

Haino thought that he had coined the term himself. From the literal meaning of the characters used to write it, Fushitsusha means "a person without qualities." As far as I understand it (which probably isn't very far), in Buddhism the term refers to a process that occurs during deep meditation–after losing all sense of self, if you continue to meditate to a very deep level you will eventually rediscover yourself, but a self devoid of all qualities and spiritually pure. Nijiumu is also supposedly a Buddhist term–the literal meaning of the characters is "the merging of that which is and that which is not."
The above is from Cummings' notes at the bottom of this interview with Haino: http://www.halana.com/haino.html

Here are two quotations from Haino which illuminate what he's getting at with the name:

I was really surprised once when someone told me that the word "Fushitsusha" appears in a Buddhist sutra. On one level, if you are able to explain what "Fushitsusha" means then that means that you can also define what Buddhism means. I heard that from an actual priest, someone who has read a lot of obscure texts. That's the sense in which I use "Fushitsusha." We talked about this before – how in Buddhism nothing is the same as everything, so nothingness is not something that you should aim for

I am not an anarchist, I am Anarchy... When Buddha meditated he achieved satori [spiritual awakening, or enlightenment], and the body disappeared, that would be the end. But what physically remains after satori is what was written up by the Buddha's pupils, not the satori itself. Buddha said he's got something that he cannot understand or express in words. My job, my anarchy, which is political only insofar as not being interested in politics at all is political, what I am trying to do is to express in music the satori that the Buddha achieved but couldn't explain

In the interview linked above (http://www.halana.com/haino.html), Cummings writes that he and Haino spoke over iced tea and cake. Which reminds me that Haino has a very sweet tooth (especially cake, it seems). So much so that he had to cancel an appearance about 3 years ago because he'd eaten too much cake and felt unwell. So much for the Lord of Darkness etc!

Amazing.

Thanks for your help again, and for a massive genuine laugh.

Anyone picked up the new Fushitsusha, "Hikari to Nazukeyo"? I'm trying to see if I can buy it locally before ordering online. Volcanic Tongue has it for a reasonable price (with typically OTT write-up by Keenan):

Fushitsusha
Hikari to Nazukeyo
Heartfast HFCD-013
CD
£18.99

Possibly the most anticipated release of 2012, the return of the greatest rock band on the planet, Keiji Haino’s Fushitsusha: Hikari to Nazukeyo sees Haino on guitar and vocals joined by original Fushitsusha/Kousokuya drummer Ikuro Takahashi and bassist Mitsuru Nasuno (who he also plays with in Seijaku).
The rhythm section of Takahashi and Nasuno is as formally boggling as you might have hoped, with the pair playing in the kind of staggered signatures and over-lapping time/space visions of the Seijaku discs, but whereas the focus of those recordings was on birthing a form of future blues that took off from Steppenwolf, Albert King and The Doors here it feels very much as if the trio are attempting to reformulate original rock & roll moves, with a feel that’s somewhere between Scotty Moore, Eddie Cochran and John Lee Hooker, albeit wrestling with the kind of rhythmic equations that are most assuredly post-improvisation and deeply Japanese. Indeed, the album has two distinct sides, there are the ultra-thrifty insistent monochord carve-ups of classic trio rock/roll moves and there are the heady F/X saturated blow-outs, with Haino’s guitar exploding the kind of post-Hendrix vectors of Double Live while he sings in an otherworldly castrato, birthing a form of violent sacred music. At this point in time I think it’s safe to say that no one else has so successfully and rigorously disinterred and interrogated the basic tenets of rock music as Fushitsusha and to think that at 60 years old Haino is still making the most radical and searching rock music of anyone’s career is a tribute to his commitment to the specifics of vision and his belief in the potential of the form. From where I’m sitting it feels like the whole history of rock music has led up to this. Highest possible recommendation!

as if the trio are attempting to reformulate original rock & roll moves, with a feel that’s somewhere between Scotty Moore, Eddie Cochran and John Lee Hooker

I predict I will not hear what they're talking about and this will sound exactly like Fushitsusha to me.

Well done Dave for that write-up. Not buying it tho' but hopefully I can see them if they come to London.

I can really recommend Haino's new-ish trio, Seijaku. Haino describes them as "21st century blues". Two albums so far: http://www.doubtmusic.com/mart/dmf-136-7_e.html

Yeah, I wrote about Seijaku (and Haino generally) for Burning Ambulance a while back. Killer stuff. So's Aihiyo. Got a copy of this new Fushitsusha but haven't played it yet.

See you all at TUSK!

Hikari to Nazukeyo

Lots, well, no fuck it, lots of hooks/riffs to hang on to. Fleeting moments of total transcendent vibery. Tightest wonk ever. Nasuno killing it throughout. A bunch of groovers to start off with then they go off on one. Only heard it via the Spotify thread yesterday but have already ordered a copy and keep coming back for more. Guess I really should go see em on Friday now!

yeah I thought it was p cool; first time I actually felt like I 'got' it...

Hikari is definitely more of a rock & roll proposition than usual... so short by Fushitsusha standards it feels like an EP. The new one Mabushii itazura na inori is a little longer, more 'jazzy' in a way, almost like a dryer, slightly more abrasive take on the Allegorical Misunderstanding type of sound. Nazoranai and particularly the last Haino/Ambarchi/O'Rourke collab (which is amazing) are closer to the old Fushitsusha to my ears.

And yeah, go see them live without hesitation. I've only seen the Haino/Ozawa/Takahashi lineup (at FIMAV in 1997, the show that was released as 'Withdrawe etc etc') but Haino in just about any form is always worth getting out of the house for.

cheaper tickets for friday btw http://www.wegottickets.com/sct/u3H5VZqmVm

I can't make London, but will be at TUSK. Anyone else?

ach, i bought my less cheap ticket already! they'd better be worth that extra £4 and the three minute walk it takes me to get to the venue.

How was it last night?!

TUSK seems a great little festival. Fushitsusha should be amazing in the intimacy of such a venue.

as i keep repeating to everyone who'll listen, afterwards it felt like i'd been in a fight. it was a pretty remarkable venue for them, the whole room felt oppressively thick with sound, really brutal and really incredible. john butcher's set was beautiful too, let's have everything in big old churches from now on.

Excellent!

Star & Shadow seems relatively small, hot and dark (in generally good ways, for gig experiences) as is, let alone when Fushitsusha unleash themselves... I cannot wait!

ok yeah Hikari to Nazukeyo is fantastic. Second, more thorough listening is yielding many rewards

3CD live set with Peter Brötzmann coming April 26 on Utech. Excerpt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeOAgOnqXDw

The Haino/Brötzmann duo is probably my favorite by either artist; can't wait to hear this.

Saw the Burning Ambulance piece today. Super excited.

oh wow, sounds amazing

Holy christ CAN'T. PREORDER. FAST. ENOUGH.

was lucky enough to be at this perf, all-time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB_WXjZUZ6I

listening to Pathetique for first time in years and DAMN

such a monster.

so, this fushitsusha/brotzmann set rules

Indeed. I was a little worried when the entire first disc went by without any Brötzmann, but wow, he owns the second disc (and parts of the 3rd).

yeah, the 2nd disc is intense. that call and response part!

also like how haino makes you wait 3hrs for a riff, hah

so the orders have arrived?

yeah, mine came in over the weekend.

and as with most things utech/fusitsusha, the packaging is very nice too.

*waits by the door*

Incredible from start to finish, much more coherent and forceful than most of the other Haino/Brotzmann material floating around out there... and so much that you don't find on other Fushitsusha recordings of the time - that slow building drums/bells intro on disc one (shades of no.5 from Tenshi no Gijinka there, only nerve-wracking instead of peaceful), scary ritual chanting on disc two...

And yeah, pretty package too.

loving this, but still on disc 1.

coulda sworn i preordered this but no dice. now to pay some discogs swindler god knows ugh, can't wait to hear it.

saw an exhibition of brotzmanns artwork in ljubljana last summer, it wa approx what one would expect, except in a very sunny old mansion in the middle of a park

Haino thought that he had coined the term himself. From the literal meaning of the characters used to write it, Fushitsusha means "a person without qualities." As far as I understand it (which probably isn't very far), in Buddhism the term refers to a process that occurs during deep meditation–after losing all sense of self, if you continue to meditate to a very deep level you will eventually rediscover yourself, but a self devoid of all qualities and spiritually pure. Nijiumu is also supposedly a Buddhist term–the literal meaning of the characters is "the merging of that which is and that which is not."

Awesome. Its a dynamic within MwQ. The novel aims at an almost scientific precision, but there is an awareness that to achieve that within thinking and writing you can achieve a result which is falls in the spiritual realm. Equally, that deep looking within itself that is a feature of a modernistic monologue can be cast differently. And "anarchy" -- its surrounding and the manner of behaviour of some of its characters -- is another state of mind within Musil.

Perhaps this is better placed in a PSF thread, but Fushitsusha fans may be pleased to hear that their catalogue is to be reissued, including it seems on vinyl.

www.theblackeditions.com

It is with great excitement that we announce the formation of the Black Editions label and the return of Japan’s revered P.S.F. Records catalog. Starting in 2016 Black Editions will begin to issue P.S.F.’s lost classics in high quality, definitive editions; Most of these albums will be released on vinyl for the first time ever.

Renowned artist such Keiji Haino, Fushitsusha, High Rise, White Heaven, Kaoru Abe, Kan Mikami, Acid Mothers Temple, Musica Transonic, Masayoshi Urabe, Moto Yoshizawa, Che-Shizu, Michio Kadotani and many more all had seminal works that were first issued by P.S.F. Over the past 30 years, these artists have created one of the world’s most vital and original bodies of music.

Though often shrouded in mystery and sometimes pressed in limited editions that barely made it out of Japan, the albums of the P.S.F. catalog have nonetheless achieved a legendary status. Ranging from psychedelic rock, folk and punk to jazz, free improvisation and the avant-garde, the P.S.F. catalog has been defiantly eclectic and uncompromising.

As the label founder Hideo Ikeezumi told us- “I only wanted to release music on PSF that refused to limit itself to genres, that had zero commercialism, that possessed “kokoro” (heart), and that had a feeling of freedom. In that sense, I was heavily influenced by Masayuki Takayanagi. I was very much affected by something he said when I was 19 – that an artist should put their life on the line in order to express themselves.”

It is the mission of Black Editions to continue that legacy. Working in full cooperation with P.S.F., its artists and its founder Hideo Ikeezumi, all material will be re-mastered from the highest quality sources. This will be the first time many of these albums will be available outside of Japan.

Coming in 2016 will be definitive editions of Fushitsusha’s 2nd Live, the original version of High Rise II, the Tokyo Flashback compilation, Che Shizu’s A Journey and through special arrangement with the artist- Keiji Haino’s classic 1981 debut Watashi Dake?.

About Black Editions:
Based in Los Angeles, Black Editions has been founded by Peter Kolovos who is joined by Steve Lowenthal as the new label’s Director of Operations.

Black Editions acquired the rights to the P.S.F. catalog in 2014.

The full list of titles in the Black Edition catalog can be found by clicking here.

Their *PSF* catalogue, I should have written.

Really excited about this, as I sold my Fushitsusha CDs years ago and really want to get new copies. I am a little concerned that this part ("Starting in 2016 Black Editions will begin to issue P.S.F.’s lost classics in high quality, definitive editions; Most of these albums will be released on vinyl for the first time ever.") might be implying that the reissues would be vinyl-only. But if they do reproduce the awesome CD packaging of Live II I will be very, very happy.

Fair point: that could imply vinyl only. I own all the CDs myself but might be tempted to reinvest if the packaging or re-mastering warrants it.

I wish the Tokuma albums would be reissued. Those were out of my price range when they were released, and now, forget it.

THis is both vinyl and cd versions of all the PSF titles is it?
Any idea over what tiime period the releases are coming and what kind of prices?
I'm assumming that it will be a lot cheaper tahn buying the PSF versions were even at the time they were in print?

I'd just been thinking i needed the first couple of Fushitsusha live cds so very glad to hear this.

Kinda worried that this is vinyl only

I've emailed the label to find out. Will report back.

top man

thanking u

To what extent can remastering improve the sound of Live II? I suppose its murkiness is part of its legend but I'd be tempted by a clearer sound.

Live II is PSF 15/16, correct? Easily my favorite Fushitsusha.

Really curious to see which Kaoru Abe material gets reissued...I'm not really up on what of his was on PSF and what was on other labels.

OK, here is the (disappointing) word:

We only have plans for Lps at the moment. But if demand becomes apparent...

Yes Live II is 15/16

Oh. That is disappointing

boooo

Thanks, Duke! xxp

And uuuugghhh fuck vinyl-only.

man that's a drag (yet somehow i'm sure i will end up buying all of these anyway because i am a chump)

I think an email-writing campaign is in order - info @ theblackeditions dot com.

Haha! xpost

I'm willing to write.

The Barre Phillips/Keiji Haino duo set is indescribably essential. But it's such a spacious, quiet recording, that vinyl will pretty much ruin the experience.

I think an email-writing campaign is in order - info @ theblackeditions dot com.

― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, March 11, 2016 6:59 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was wondering what kind of demand they needed.

I'm also thinking that I thought a lot of the Fushitsusha tracks at least would be difficult to fit onto vinyl, I thought they'd be 2 or possibly 3 vinyl sides long.

But I have noticeed that a few reissue labels that started off doing cds too seem to have gone vinyl only. Is Superior Viaduct still doing cds at all?

Yeah Live II is about 150 minutes long or something

no long tracks on II though, it would fit on a 3LP just fine (not that I will buy it)

Yeah Live II could work. But Fushitsusha generally more suited to CD.

I didn't manage to pick up that recent Fushitsusha / Brötzmann collaboration. Regretting it now.

Holy fucking shit; a full one-hour performance from 1987, now on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM6eO7wPPEA

amazing

:o

i found myself wanting to shout some variation of "YES! HELL YES!" periodically through this video

Funny I was watching a bunch of that the live '91 video earlier this week.

Would be great it Temporal Drift took these guys on after they finished up with Les Rallizes Denudes stuff. Impossible to find this stuff, even the older mp3 blogs offer either dead links or corrupt files. Really would love to find the 1989 and 1991 live albums.

There's flac rips of both of those on t0rrent sites, just saying.

Yeah, assumed that was probably the case, I don't really torrent though.

I mostly want the Tokuma albums (A Death Never To Be Complete, The Time Is Nigh, A Little Longer Thus and The Wisdom Prepared) to come back into print — they're ridiculously expensive secondhand. The "other two" double live CDs — Purple Trap and I Saw It! That Which Before I Could Only Sense — would be nice to have around, too.

Oh yeah, I'd take it all tbh. The Temporal Drift model would be nice - a new reissue every few months to get the catalog back in print.

Wasn't there a label doing PSF reissues on vinyl only? Certainly the Fushitsusha recs are best heard on CD because of their length, and yes, a complete Tokuma reissue set wld be nice.

Yeah, Black Editions was doing some of the PSF catalog vinyl reissues.

Fushitsusha Double Live (1991) is supposed to be getting a 5 LP (!) reissue on Black Editions

God I don't want to see the price on that, be nice if they could do a CD as well.

I paid $65 for a CD copy of Live II last year. I do not regret this.

I probably would jump for that price, I haven't seen a copy for under three figures.

I remember even back in the '90s those Fusitsusha CDs were pricey. I think like $30 for a typical import single CD was common.

Back in about 1990 I sold a copy of Iron Maiden's "Soundhouse Tapes" 7" for $70 to some guy in the US, it's now worth about 20 times that. Anyway I recycled the cash by sending it to PSF in Japan for Fushitsusha "Live 2" plus I think CDs by Ghost, High Rise and maybe a Tokyo Flashback comp. Money well spent, even though I could have bought half the PSF catalogue with it if I'd waited a decade or two before selling. But who can wait for Fushitsusha?

Every time I see one pop up on Discogs for a reasonable amount, it's always like someone asking like $40 for shipping.

https://www.discogs.com/release/7946687-Fushitsusha-Secret-Black-Box

This is on YT btw..

Apparently there's a new lineup with Shingo Naruke on bass and Noriaki Yoshida on drums, both also members of Keiji Haino & the Hardy Rocks.

Do you know if they’re going to play in the US at all?

feels like haino was here all the time as recently as 10-15yrs ago and then he just stopped completely. my guess is it’s a combination of getting older and this country getting super duper dumb. i prob wouldn’t bother either.

I feel so lucky to have gotten to see the classic Fushitsusha lineup at Tonic in 2000.

I think I was at that same show. I also saw Haino solo a couple of times but that was the only time I saw Fusitsusha.

I was at this gig in London, for reasons unknown they were booked into some nothing pub in Brixton that seemed more suited to Irish dance bands or somesuch.

https://www.discogs.com/release/1023073-Fushitsusha-Purple-Trap-The-Wound-That-Was-Given-Birth-To-Must-Be-Bigger-Than-The-Wound-That-Gave-Bi

That's one of my favorite Fushitsusha recordings. Would love to have been there.