And so it has come to this: 1682 albums, 1884 tracks. Your job is to distil each of those into a mere 50, and present your findings to the committee, who will, after three weeks, reveal the ineluctable will of our particular gathering of musical superfans, with regard to the decade of its blessed creation.
There'll be house! There'll be rap! There'll be indie! There'll Beyoncé!
But how, how to vote? I hear you cry.
Well, noted committee member seandalai has very kindly contributed the following SUPERCHARGED version of his famed EOY template, now with added rocket boosters for top 5 placements!
VOTING FORM
A few things (most of which are reiterated in the form):
- COPY AND PASTE FROM THE ALBUMS AND TRACKS LISTS. Don't just type up your nominations from scratch. For example, you may THINK you're voting for Pink - Get The Party Started but you're NOT because it's actually P!nk - Get the Party Started with an exclamation mark and that will be the ONLY way to get your nomination NOTICED. Even if it's misspelt, you have to use the version from the spreadsheet.
- You can do a weighted, mixed, unweighted or 'missing' ballot. Not doing weighted or mixed misses out on the awesome super bonuses for top five placements, though, so, your choice, y'know.
- I'm working on finishing the Spotify playlists - the closer I get to the end, the further away it seems to recede! They're about three-quarters done as it stands.
Spotify albums playlist (I've picked what seems like a nice meaty track off each album as representative)
Spotify tracks playlist
- Non-Spotify tracks are being campaigned for here: NOUGHTIES/NOWTS/00s POLL CAMPAIGNING SIDE-THREAD: Youtube, Bandcamp & other links to YOUR nominations that AREN'T ON SPOTIFY
- The deadline is the night of October 11 but really it's when seandalai wakes up the next morning.
- Listen to as much as you can before voting! This comes by order* of THE COMMITTEE. Also, stay safe and have fun!
*not actually an order
― imago, Friday, 20 September 2019 22:30 (four years ago) link
a huge undertaking. thank you imago
― Dan S, Friday, 20 September 2019 23:32 (four years ago) link
and also seandalai and any others who make this possible
― Dan S, Saturday, 21 September 2019 00:58 (four years ago) link
I love the idea of a supercharged version of the ballot
― Dan S, Saturday, 21 September 2019 01:05 (four years ago) link
Would it be possible to post the nomination lists to Pastebin? A basic text file is easier for me to handle than a spreadsheet.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 22 September 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link
^ yes, this!
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 22 September 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link
in addition to Sheena Ringo (who i wrote a little bit about here: Best albums (and tracks) of YOUR favourite albums (and tracks) of the ENTIRE NOUGHTIES: 2000-2009 Ballot Poll Nominations + Campaigning Thread) i wanna campaign for a few more things
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbiSxunJatMPerfume's "Polyrhythm" is one of the most thrilling pop songs i've ever heard, its polyrhythmic breakdown never gets old. would be a wonderful pop song even without all the rhythmic tricks but those take it to an even higher level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppSAGtNQcfYCymbals Eat Guitars's Why There Are Mountains is one of my favourite rock albums. reminiscent of the proggier/structurally weirder end of pavement etc. but still relentlessly catchy and with electric piano, vibraphone, organ and trumpet all over the place which softens the sound a little and certainly helps it to stand out from its 90s influences. easily the best thing to come out of that whole late 00s/early 10s wave of 90s revivalism.
― ufo, Monday, 23 September 2019 03:08 (four years ago) link
thanks for doing this imago/seandalai! just spotted a typo in the albums list: Stars - Set Yourself Fire should be Stars - Set Yourself on Fire
got my albums down to a top 100 and I'm wiped out. Don't even know how I'm going to cut it in half - the 00s were a brutal time for me and a bunch of these records literally saved my life.
― Roz, Monday, 23 September 2019 05:54 (four years ago) link
I noticed that in the track noms, Björk's name is written both as "Björk" and as "Bjork", without the umlaut. I have a habit of correcting missing umlauts, but if I vote for, say, "Pagan Poetry" as Björk and not as "Bjork", will it mess the voting automation?
― Tuomas, Monday, 23 September 2019 06:23 (four years ago) link
It definitely risks the result not being noticed, especially if people have already voted for it in the 'wrong' spelling. Keep it as it is and if it places I'll make sure it's spelt properly in the rollout.
As for Pastebin, I'll see if the tracks and albums can be c&p'd into a Pastebin later (perhaps someone who's at home on a computer could also try this?)
― imago, Monday, 23 September 2019 06:33 (four years ago) link
PASTEBIN LINKS
ALBUMS: https://pastebin.com/Wfah3xgNTRACKS: https://pastebin.com/BwpjM95h
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 23 September 2019 07:37 (four years ago) link
Thanks!
― Tuomas, Monday, 23 September 2019 08:05 (four years ago) link
Voted.
― Tuomas, Monday, 23 September 2019 09:36 (four years ago) link
pastebin has long spaces at the end of each line, could these be removed as could cause problems?
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 23 September 2019 10:08 (four years ago) link
i'm absolutely loving revisiting all this 00s music, my estimation for the decade is going through the roof
― ogmor, Monday, 23 September 2019 10:27 (four years ago) link
me too!
― imago, Monday, 23 September 2019 10:46 (four years ago) link
i had it pegged as a strange and slightly shit prototype of the current time of wonder but there's a lot to love, even if the music is a bit more wide-eyed and gauche
― imago, Monday, 23 September 2019 10:47 (four years ago) link
I was going through the nominations and I noticed this one:
"Cut Copy - Lights and Magic"
Shouldn't that be "Lights and Music"?
― daavid, Monday, 23 September 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link
That's on the tracks list, BTW
― daavid, Monday, 23 September 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link
If it places, they'll correct it in the rollout. This goes for any misspelled track or album. Take it from me, former EOY poll runner!
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 23 September 2019 14:58 (four years ago) link
If people can't remember or look up the names of tracks and albums they love enough to nominate for a decade-wide poll, that's on them
― imago, Monday, 23 September 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link
Still a few 2010 tracks in the list too but doubt they will place high enough for it to matter
― nashwan, Monday, 23 September 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link
name names and I will weigh up zapping them
― imago, Monday, 23 September 2019 16:48 (four years ago) link
Hot Chip - One Life Stand (Jan 2010 release)Oni Ayhun - OAR004-A Robyn - Dancing On My Own
― nashwan, Monday, 23 September 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link
"The Kidnapper Bell" by Mono (from Japan), the best track that Mogwai never wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ouoQ_wAGOc
― Doctor Hu (Leee), Monday, 23 September 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link
Campaign time!
If you like your black metal trve, black and nihil, nihil, nihil, like a delicious poisonous dish on the side, do check out Lurker of Chalice's 's/t' album. It is thee best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoMxDvkPZr8
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 23 September 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
You should check this out, Pom and LJ.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 23 September 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link
/algeriangoalkeeperstanning
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 23 September 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link
I feel like most of these are extremely obvious (at least to me), but just wanting to make sure people don't forget to vote for New Amerykah Part One (the album of the decade), Aaliyah (the album of the decade), Overpowered (the album of the decade), Complex Simplicity (the album of the decade), Blackout (the album of the decade), and, of course, Voodoo (the album of the decade)
― monotony, Monday, 23 September 2019 23:12 (four years ago) link
anyway as you can see my list making is going extremely well and I'm not having any trouble at all putting things in order
Statues >>>> Overpowered though
― ufo, Monday, 23 September 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link
not voting for any of those, see u in the results thread
― sleeve, Monday, 23 September 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link
lol but blackout might make my ballot
― Mordy, Monday, 23 September 2019 23:29 (four years ago) link
still not sure about the best songs, but the hands-down best song name: "Dress Sexy at My Funeral"
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 01:07 (four years ago) link
ppl who don’t vote for aaliyah clown themselves
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 02:06 (four years ago) link
I have my albums just about ready. Trying to cut my tracks list down is an actual nightmare.
― kitchen person, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 05:25 (four years ago) link
tough deciding whether i'm going to vote for 4 black dice albums or 5 black dice albums
― ogmor, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 11:21 (four years ago) link
I will, thanks. It's been on my list of pending albums for a while now.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 11:25 (four years ago) link
Will listen to that, but for now, let's keep this thread clutter-free (i.e. no Youtubes pls)
― imago, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link
lurker of chalice is the same dude as leviathan, he is a deeply fucked up person but that record is p good yeah
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link
Considering being a coward and sending unranked ballots
― Simon H., Tuesday, 24 September 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link
I'm almost ready to submit, but Monotony has got me thinking that I might need room for that wonderful Teedra Moses album.
― kitchen person, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link
track campaign: Cortney Tidwell - Don't Let Stars Keep Us Tangled Up (Ewan Pearson's Objects In Space mix)
probably the greatest thing i've ever heard
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link
I sort of assumed everyone had heard that already? but yes extremely good
― Simon H., Tuesday, 24 September 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link
i mean me too but i can’t assume anything on ilm
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link
Don't Let The Stars is one of the songs that I wasn't aware of until it place in the 2005-09 poll. It's gorgeous.
― kitchen person, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link
this is gonna be tough, i just hit 50 and i'm only at F alphabetically
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link
Hot Chip - One Life Stand (Jan 2010 release)Oni Ayhun - OAR004-ARobyn - Dancing On My Own
― nashwan, Monday, September 23, 2019 5:01 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
all zapped
― imago, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link
One Life Stand was released digitally in November 2009, so please unzap it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Life_Stand_(song)
― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link
unzapped!
― imago, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link
― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link
if nashwan turns up with evidence that november 2009 was actually in this decade though, we've got problems
― imago, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link
i got a bit more selective but still ended up with 127 albums on my first pass
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link
shortlist of 200 nearly ..
campaigning wise I hope people dont forget the albums by Isis and Agalloch on the noms list.
Also Yob - Catharsis which is the best album they made in the OG incarnation if not the best in both.
Zombi - Spirit AnimalAnd Emeralds - What Happened? for the non metal synth fans on ILM
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link
making sure everybody plans to vote for the meadowlands.
that is all.
― Mommy...can I go out and VAPE tonight? (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link
Creeping up my album ballot: múm - Finally We Are No One.
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link
i plan to vote for the meadowlands
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link
that's in my 200xp
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link
i think it probably won't need the help but everyone please remember to vote for the magnolia electric co, the best album of the 2000s
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link
― ciderpress, Tuesday, September 24, 2019 12:58 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link
Not to rain on anybody's parade but this:
Kaija Saariaho / Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra / Esa-Pekka Salonen / Kronos Quartet – Du cristal …à la fumée / Sept papillons / Nymphéa
…is a reissue of a 1993 album with Sept papillons tacked on.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link
ZAPPED
― imago, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link
And didn't Sigur Rós's Ágætis byrjun come out in JUNE 1999?
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link
that one's a bit controversial
― imago, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link
it was released in iceland in 1999, don't think it had a global release until 2000/2001
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link
that's a totally acceptable year of impact thing imo
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link
i'm not zapping jon and his yelping
― imago, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link
pitchfork, rolling stone, et al have already run 00s lists with it in there i think it's grandfathered in now
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link
Yeah we discussed Agaetis Byrjun earlier, din't get a release outside of Iceland until mid 2000.
This is hard. My longlist was about 200 albums. Cutting it down to 100 was not a big problem, but the hurting has def started.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link
I've got about 100 too at this point and am afraid to go any further.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link
voted. had the albums list already like 99% thought out. winged the tracks voting but I feel strongly about it. lots of nostalgia when putting these together. thanks a lot for setting this all up.
― gman59, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, September 24, 2019 4:04 PM (fifty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Simon H., Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link
― Simon H., Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:59 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 21:27 (four years ago) link
Emeralds - What Happened?
well worth your time if you dig floaty space synth action with a bit of grit in the mix
― sleeve, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link
I’ll put some information on some of the more niche stuff I’ll be voting for up in phases. A couple of tracks:
Kapela Ze Wsi Warszawa- Maydow - Polish drone-folk. KZWW were early participants in Poland’s roots revival scene, taking near-forgotten trad melodies / styles at risk of disappearing in a country perceived as being indifferent to its cultural heritage and incorporating them into new songs. A lot of their stuff is fairly jaunty but Maydow has a strong folk-horror vibe that may appeal to fans of Espers or the Wicker Man idk.
Kasia Stankiewicz - Francuzeczka - I have vivid memories of going to Poland for the first time, getting to the hotel, switching on the TV and the video for this sprawling electro-pop marvel playing. I’ve been transfixed ever since.
The Konki Duet - Il Fait Tout Gris Released slightly before the Nouvelle Vague album but with a similar concept, it’s a French cello cover of Fade To Grey. There isn’t the same sense of ironic detachment you get with Olivier Libeaux’s project though, it’s played dead straight and works wonderfully.
Lady Saw - Five Star Hotel Probably a minor entry in her immense discography but the combination of Mario C’s bouncy Bomb-A-Drop riddim and Saw’s lyrics about precisely which hotels she’d let suitors take her to is enormous fun.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 22:13 (four years ago) link
imago -- Brandy - "Full Moon" should be on the track list, not albums.
― Doctor Hu (Leee), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 22:14 (four years ago) link
Maryanne Amacher's Sound Characters is on the albums list but was released too early for the poll.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link
Brandy - Full Moon is on both lists - presumably the track is a title-track? It was nominated by Jeff W as an album too
― imago, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 23:45 (four years ago) link
Maryanne Amacher is about to be zapped
I voted. I was surprised that I got up to >50 albums and had to make cuts - most of my heavy album listening was in college (which excludes most of the 00s). But the last couple years I've been catching up on a lot of more recent albums. Tracks was TOUGH.
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 00:11 (four years ago) link
Ah ok! For some reason I didn't see it on the tracks (it is there) and assumed it fell into the wrong list.
― Doctor Hu (Leee), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 00:12 (four years ago) link
imago, google docs is unfortunately blocked on my laptop so i have to send them over via my phone which loses all the 'special characters'i'll try sort any ones out on my voting slips but apologies if i miss any
― nxd, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 09:24 (four years ago) link
More tracks:
Raymond & Maria - Ingen Vill Veta Var Du Köpt Din Tröja - Raymond & Maria have cornered the market in sweet acoustic indie-pop songs about how capitalism can lead to a decent standard of living but is ultimately dehumanising (Jobs Where They Don’t Know Our Names, The Fish Are Swimming Slower Every Year, etc). Their best is Ingen Vill Veta Var Du Köpt Din Tröja, re-released a couple of years later in English as No-One Notices Your Brand-New T-Shirt. The chorus approximates to “no-one will be sad when you die / nobody will miss you / nobody even cares where you bought your shirt / even though you’ve done everything that you should / you’ve been polite and happy / and you’ve worked hard to lose that stupid accent”.
Calle 13 - Atrevete-te-te - One of the most popular reggaeton songs of the decade – poking fun at a girl who listens to “pop-rock Latino”, Green Day and Coldplay and is too snobby for Puerto Rican music. Good use of cumbia clarinets.
Delfin - Vesna - Maudlin Russian electro-pop is very much my jam and Delfin’s glittering Vesna with its single verse (forgive me / it’s spring where I’m going / can you find me?) repeated like an incantation is one of the most affecting things of the decade.
B-Jeans - Ei Saa - Estonian Italodisco packed with twinkling synths and rolled consonants. Estonian pop of the era was still a strange cottage industry where almost everything seemed to be written or produced by one guy – Sven Lohmus. I’m 99% sure this was one of his.
Capleton - Long Time - Almost everything on South Rakkas’ infectious Bionic Ras riddim is good but Capleton’s Long Time is a standout. He’s probably marginally better known for conscious reggae these days but excelled at being silly as well.
Sammi Cheng - 808 - Sammi is probably best known in the West for her acting (Blind Detective, Everlasting Regret, etc) but has sold tens of millions of albums at home. Most of her records are fairly boilerplate Cantopop ballads but 808 has a wonderfully woozy charm.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 11:17 (four years ago) link
Not to rain on anybody's parade but this:Kaija Saariaho / Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra / Esa-Pekka Salonen / Kronos Quartet – Du cristal …à la fumée / Sept papillons / Nymphéa…is a reissue of a 1993 album with Sept papillons tacked on.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 11:42 (four years ago) link
I'm sure it is.
― imago, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 11:46 (four years ago) link
I quite like the Lurker of Chalice, LBI. It's less metal-oriented than I expected (in a good way), almost d&b/trip-hop-ish in parts, and much better than the couple of Leviathan albums I've heard.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link
damn, we managed not to nominate the hold steady's separation sunday? not my number one, but probably my number two
― Mommy...can I go out and VAPE tonight? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link
shit, well when i was nominating my bonus picks, i ctrl+f'd for it, and thought I saw it nominated, but it turns out it was posted in a "pitchfork top 200 albums of the 00s that haven't been nominated yet" post.
― Mommy...can I go out and VAPE tonight? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 15:28 (four years ago) link
I'm glad you like it Pom! It's way better than Leviathan, I agree.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link
xp oh sorry for the confusion, i was a little afraid that might happen. it wasn't the p4k list though it was from the ilx one
― ufo, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link
ah word. bummer. i'll vote for a different hold steady album instead, unless we're accepting beyond-last-minute additions?
― Mommy...can I go out and VAPE tonight? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link
if nominations were prevented by mischance rather than negligence i suppose i can be lenient. check the nominations list later (or tomorrow) perhaps...
― imago, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link
*prayer hands emoji*
― Mommy...can I go out and VAPE tonight? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link
craig finn would approve
― imago, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:27 (four years ago) link
this is how a resurrection really feels
― Mommy...can I go out and VAPE tonight? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link
feel it's important to note that halfway through life without buildings 'the leanover' i was all 'hmm, what is this' and then by the end i was in tears, so there's that
― imago, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 23:52 (four years ago) link
I went through the albums list and I had heard 118 front to back. Looking at the list I got, it does look like a part of the music I was listening to from 2000-2009. I do think these polls are good places to start to check out other music you don't know.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 23:59 (four years ago) link
ok
the Spotify playlists are COMPLETE (bar any quibbling)
enjoy!
― imago, Thursday, 26 September 2019 00:11 (four years ago) link
thanks so much imago!!!!! you are a true champ!
just popping in to give some love to the Black Angels – Directions to See a Ghost which is actually incredible, even though one might be tempted to unfairly dismiss it as just another generic CMJ-fodder indie-psych album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSIYjYjoRBY
― Non stop chantar (crüt), Thursday, 26 September 2019 00:26 (four years ago) link
Can you add this to the Spotify tracks list: https://open.spotify.com/track/3kFEX1OTRaZ5WfX3X42BQP?si=63m-IAXtSo-IHFEJS1eSCA
(it's "Chocolate Disco" by Perfume which I nominated, just in katakana transliteration)
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Thursday, 26 September 2019 00:31 (four years ago) link
kinda shocked that imago had never heard life without buildings before
― ufo, Thursday, 26 September 2019 01:00 (four years ago) link
THIS IS TOO DAMN HARD TO FILTER TO 50!
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 September 2019 01:35 (four years ago) link
lol yes
― Dan S, Thursday, 26 September 2019 01:38 (four years ago) link
I find that whole Life Without Buildings LP inexplicably moving. I was just saying off-site yesterday that it could even be my #1 album if I can manage to rank stuff. (Almost certainly #1 guitar-y record anyway.)
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 26 September 2019 01:59 (four years ago) link
I think I'll vote for The Meadowlands too.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 September 2019 02:06 (four years ago) link
― Nag! Nag! Nag!
Yeah, it's always a very emotional listen for me too. It'll be doing well on my list.
― kitchen person, Thursday, 26 September 2019 02:17 (four years ago) link
It will be in the supercharged part of my ballot for sure.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 September 2019 02:32 (four years ago) link
wait why is Blueberry Boat not in the pastebin link?
― sleeve, Thursday, 26 September 2019 02:35 (four years ago) link
cuz it's in the Spotify playlist and I am sure as hell voting for it
― sleeve, Thursday, 26 September 2019 02:36 (four years ago) link
checking and imago himself nominated it as the very first nomination so i think it's safe to vote for it
― ufo, Thursday, 26 September 2019 02:45 (four years ago) link
aw, Darkspace I and III, but no II? II is the best!
― beard papa, Thursday, 26 September 2019 02:48 (four years ago) link
xp oh it's under "The Fiery Furnaces" along with Gallowsbird's Bark, carry on
― sleeve, Thursday, 26 September 2019 02:49 (four years ago) link
hey my first pass through the albums got me just under 100, not bad
― sleeve, Thursday, 26 September 2019 02:55 (four years ago) link
imago at 2:46 25 Sep 19I'm sure it is.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 26 September 2019 06:45 (four years ago) link
I think I'll vote for The Meadowlands too.― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, September 25, 2019 10:06 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, September 25, 2019 10:06 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Alfred!!!!
― Simon H., Thursday, 26 September 2019 07:36 (four years ago) link
voted
lethal bizzle 'pow' has so many feat artists that it takes up 2 lines on the ballot is this gonna be a problem for tabulation or no?
poll worth it for making me dig out 'run the road' comp for the first time in years.
― oscar bravo, Thursday, 26 September 2019 10:08 (four years ago) link
I nearly nominated Wiley ft. "England 10"'s 'She Likes To' and not that it would've made the 77 but crediting all the MCs featured on tbe track on an image might've been a 'fun' headache too.
― nashwan, Thursday, 26 September 2019 10:11 (four years ago) link
Two things:
1. Don't forget to vote for Gravenhurst. 'Hollow Men', his only nominated track, is not his most representative song, but it's awesome. The two nominated albums are undeniable masterpieces.
2. Please pay attention to three late-career / career-ending albums that are very much overlooked and/or underrated: In Prism by Polvo, My Heart Has a Wish That You Would Not Go by Aereogramme and The Rising Tide by Sunny Day Real Estate.
All three contain some of their very best songs:
Polvo:'Beggar's Bowl''Lucia'
Aereogramme:'A Life Worth Living''The Running Man'
Sunny Day Real Estate:'Snibe''The Rising Tide'
― ArchCarrier, Thursday, 26 September 2019 12:50 (four years ago) link
will certainly be voting for the rising tide
― imago, Thursday, 26 September 2019 13:13 (four years ago) link
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― ArchCarrier, Thursday, 26 September 2019 13:45 (four years ago) link
I also voted for The Rising Tide. I'm not sure when people started to come around on it but it seemed like it was completely ignored for years
― Vinnie, Thursday, 26 September 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link
so much to choose from yet I'm still thinking of stuff I forgot to nominate like Lil Kim's "The Jump Off", Kelis' "Caught Out There", the Emancipation of Mimi, and Kylie's Body Language. :(
The Utada Hikaru track "Hikari" should be this one by the way: https://open.spotify.com/track/7CVug9n4FomAqQV4RCunYv?si=JL-bX5eIS8yL8qzrTPR4dg Or its English version, "Simple and Clean": https://open.spotify.com/track/74ZhWPdUHlVjFmXFD2JOVv?si=fGJ0T9ldQ-KoWzqUxc3Rdw
― Roz, Thursday, 26 September 2019 14:30 (four years ago) link
amended!
― imago, Thursday, 26 September 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link
Kelis' "Caught Out There"
1999
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 September 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link
thanks lj xp
cheers Brad, one less song to feel bad about lol
― Roz, Thursday, 26 September 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link
― imago, Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:21 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
do we have a verdict here?
― flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Thursday, 26 September 2019 14:58 (four years ago) link
ready to vote, just waiting for this one judgment from the almighty poll-runner
check the nominations list!
― imago, Thursday, 26 September 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link
I still think its wrong Dopesmoker was denied as its different to Jersusalem, nobody in their right mind would vote for the 1996 version of Jersusalem and most people hadn't heard it. but hey I was ill in bed so couldn't argue its case
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Thursday, 26 September 2019 15:21 (four years ago) link
Everybody vote Dopethrone instead
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Thursday, 26 September 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link
Can't remember the last time I've felt dumber for letting something pass me by for so damn long as the Life Without Buildings album. An incredible, mysterious gem.
― Chris L, Thursday, 26 September 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Thursday, September 26, 2019 8:21 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
i'm sure everyone can use their imagination
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 September 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link
oh wait dopesmoker was denied bc it's technically from the '90s? yeah i think that's fair
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 September 2019 15:27 (four years ago) link
― imago, Thursday, September 26, 2019 10:03 AM (twenty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
sweeeeet
― flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Thursday, 26 September 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link
I would like to remind everyone to vote for Asa Chang & Junray - Hana.
And Sheets of Easter.
Also La Ritournelle.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 26 September 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link
Both wouldn't place but am now noticing the 'Progress Reform' EP by I Like Trains and This Will Destroy You's s/t aren't nominated, two records I'd vote for if possible.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 26 September 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link
Following on from Roz' Utada Hikaru recommendation, some of the Japanese / HK stuff I’ll be voting for:
Puffy – Spike (Japanese Version): Famous in the West for their Cartoon Network show but their English-language songs never came close to doing them justice. Spike was mostly produced by Andy Sturmer from Jellyfish and there’s a strong jangle-pop influence to some of the album but it’s vastly better than his own band’s records. Asia No Junshin and Sumire are particular highlights but the whole thing’s a delight.
Faye Wong – Fable: Grand, sweeping, cinematic pop from HK’s greatest superstar. New Tenant and Chanel
Tommy February6 – Tommy Airline: When Tomoko Kawase left the (very pleasant) indie-pop group The Brilliant Green, she started parallel solo careers as Tommy February6, a jovial, alcoholic J-Pop star and Tommy Heavenly6, her goth counterpart / nemesis. None of this made any sense but the records were superb. Sepia Memory and Je t’aime Je t’aime.
Ayumi Hamasaki – Duty: A huge star, and fashion icon, in Japan for twenty years, it’s easy to overlook how amazing her opening run of albums with Max Matsuura’s Avex Trax label was. She could never really sing but they worked around that with anthemic Eurodance and dramatic, noisy pop. Surreal and Vogue.
Utada Hikaru – Exodus: Although I do like Simple & Clean a lot, I was never a fan of Utada Hikaru until her big attempt to extend her Japanese mega-stardom to the US with Exodus. Exodus 04, produced by Timbaland, and the intricate Kremlin Dusk are two of the best.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 26 September 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link
just voted and am already filled with regret. (no more regret than usual, i guess).
looking forward to the results.
― flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Thursday, 26 September 2019 15:49 (four years ago) link
I've concluded that since paring down to 50 and sorting within those 50 is pretty much impossible it's best to just wing it and embrace the chaos.
― justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Thursday, 26 September 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link
Just voted and I literally got a headache after doing so.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 September 2019 17:03 (four years ago) link
i have a lawyer
― imago, Thursday, 26 September 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link
hahaha
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 September 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link
I suspect no-one (esp the poll runner) is in favour of allowing three *add your non-nominated albums/tracks here*? It's not usance in these polls with a decade spanning poll, with stakes so high (lol), would it be a too hard a breach of etiquette to allow, say, three non-nominated entries on the ballot?
(I know a majority probably detests it but I had to try and ask, regardless)
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 26 September 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link
Down to 109 albums. What a decade.
In terms of errors, someone seems to have nominated U2.
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Thursday, 26 September 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link
omar little is an ilx institution and we all have our reasons iirc
― imago, Thursday, 26 September 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link
Since we're allowed to post youtubes here I'd like ilxors to give a listen to this title track (its not metal, honest) its synthy goodness that I'm sure a lot of ilxors would like if they were introduced to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjXlNSlAMXI
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Thursday, 26 September 2019 23:14 (four years ago) link
There’s a terrible Coldplay album somewhere on the noms too.
Surprised that indie folk popular acts from the 00’s like Bon Iver, Devendra Banhart and Sufjan Stevens were almost completely ignored. I know this is ILM but still.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 September 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link
Oh wait I see the Sufjan albums are all in there, still he’s very underrepresented in the tracks poll. I don’t think I even voted for him, not huge on the songs from Chicago which were the couple of noms. I think his best songs are in seven swans and michigan.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 September 2019 23:29 (four years ago) link
sent! hope i didn't fuck up!
― I'm a board man. Board man gets paid (Will M.), Friday, 27 September 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link
viva la vida is the best coldplay album and i may vote for it
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 27 September 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link
I would have voted for Parachutes had I nominated it or found it on the noms list.
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Friday, 27 September 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link
you never meant to cause us trouble
― imago, Friday, 27 September 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link
I'd sort kidded myself that Martin became progressively duller, lyric-wise, but christ, I just looked at some of the Parachutes lyrics and that's a slough of despond right there.
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Friday, 27 September 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link
In terms of errors, someone seems to have nominated U2
The error was nominating the wrong hated U2 album. I think How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb would make my top 50, maybe All That You Can't Leave Behind in the right mood, but even I can't get behind No Line on the Horizon
― Vinnie, Saturday, 28 September 2019 03:06 (four years ago) link
viva la vida is easily the best coldplay album but there's no chance it'll make my top 50
htdaab and nloth are both pretty dreadful, easily some of the worst u2 albums, but of the two nloth is at least kinda interesting in places and there's the general feeling of maybe it could have been something worthwhile if they hadn't gotten scared and changed paths halfway through recording
― ufo, Saturday, 28 September 2019 03:14 (four years ago) link
voted.
albums ballot turned out to be relatively painless in the end, but I chickened out and didn't do a weighted ballot for tracks - it was hard enough to compile, let alone rank.
― Roz, Saturday, 28 September 2019 09:46 (four years ago) link
It might be Coldplay’s best but I can’t think of a single reason I’d like to listen to it, let alone vote for it, over 500+ of the noms.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 28 September 2019 22:24 (four years ago) link
Of interest, I think:15th anniversary edition of Complex Simplicity is out, with some added tracks. It’s on Spotify as well, from where the original album has been absent for a long time, at least where I live.https://ratedrnb.com/2019/09/teedra-moses-releases-15th-anniversary-edition-of-complex-simplicity/
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 29 September 2019 10:06 (four years ago) link
no lollipop on the tracks list?
― gospodin simmel, Sunday, 29 September 2019 14:21 (four years ago) link
PSA: If voting for DMX 'Party Up' please base it on the original recording / music video version rather than the distinctly inferior version that is on Spotify.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thIVtEOtlWM
― nashwan, Monday, 30 September 2019 11:15 (four years ago) link
VOTED
btw having copied and pasted from the sheet the entry for Studio includes the qualifier still Studio - West Coast / Yearbook 1 -- these are more or less the same album
― nashwan, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 09:24 (four years ago) link
I voted.
I managed to get the albums into some kind of order. Tracks seemed hopeless, so I did a top 5 then had the rest unweighted. I did one album/track per artist (altho I goofed and included two Jay-Z tracks, oh well), and still I had to cut out some great artists entirely.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 03:11 (four years ago) link
have to start seriously thinking about this
― Dan S, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 03:15 (four years ago) link
Voted! So relieved to get this done. I promised myself I wouldn't overthink it and get stressed out, but that very much did not happen.
My one shout out is for Long Gone Before Daylight by The Cardigans. I wasn't expecting to love it as much as I did when it quietly appeared in 2003 and many years on it has become one of my favourite heartbreak records of all time.
― kitchen person, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 04:15 (four years ago) link
in some ways, it was a decade that started with !!! and ended with Zwan, especially when one takes an alphabetical perspective of album artists.
― It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 04:49 (four years ago) link
― Dan S
― sleeve, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 13:54 (four years ago) link
voted!
― ArchCarrier, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link
i'm having a hell of a time even getting my Tracks list under 100.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link
I've decided the first track and am pretty close on another one. If everything goes well and there are no complications with technology I'm aiming for 5
― saer, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link
I forgot how great Akufen's "My Way" is. I actually removed it from my ballot before finding it on youtube for a re-listen. The sad thing is that I own this cd, too.
― beard papa, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link
Voted earlier today, finally.
― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link
"finally"? I got nine days left!
― sleeve, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link
albums list is easier for me than the tracks one
― Dan S, Thursday, 3 October 2019 00:05 (four years ago) link
lol @ "gold digger" not being nominated
― Non stop chantar (crüt), Thursday, 3 October 2019 02:18 (four years ago) link
t/s
Bat for Lashes - What's a Girl to Do?Fatima Yamaha – What's A Girl To Do?
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 3 October 2019 08:20 (four years ago) link
Fabolous – BreatheFaith Hill – Breathe
― blows with the wind donors (crüt), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link
this is real music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh6JNE-bSCc
― blows with the wind donors (crüt), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link
And yet "Legendary K.O. – George Bush Doesn’t Care About Black People" is.
― MarkoP, Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link
I hugely fucked up not nominating Ashlee Simpson "Pieces Of Me" or Jimmy Eat World "Work"
― billstevejim, Friday, 4 October 2019 01:59 (four years ago) link
i forgot Duck :'(
― imago, Friday, 4 October 2019 01:59 (four years ago) link
Don’t know how I forgot to nominate Goldfrapp’s Ride a White Horse (Ewan Pearson disco odyssey).
― Dan Worsley, Friday, 4 October 2019 11:51 (four years ago) link
I believe I nominated Strict Machine, if that helps!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 4 October 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link
Strict Machine is great but the Ewan Pearson remix is next level. I’ll definitely vote for his remix of Cortney Tidwell’s ‘Don’t Let The Stars Keep us Tangled Up’ which is in the same vein.
― Dan Worsley, Friday, 4 October 2019 13:58 (four years ago) link
Just did exactly these same things! My CD is probably not more than 3 metres away. #TeamAkufen
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 4 October 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link
so tempted to submit a ballot with 51 albums, I can't seem to make that last cut
― sleeve, Friday, 4 October 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link
well fuck me. was entering my ballot when i realized the album version of Radiohead's Everything In It's Right Place isn't in the nominations list – just some disco remix.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 4 October 2019 19:33 (four years ago) link
fwiw I was listening to the Spotify playlist and it's got the wrong version of Neko Case's Magpie to the Morning. That song appears on two different albums, Middle Cyclone (2009) and The Worse Things Get (2013).
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 4 October 2019 21:24 (four years ago) link
i concentrated only on albums today and my first pass was 116 and i kept some off on purpose. i'm going to have to put in like five hours to do this whole thing correctly. don't know if i will have that kind of time and just do a mixed ballot. i already know the tracks list will be harder to do. so yeah, this is impossible.
― Bee OK, Friday, 4 October 2019 21:58 (four years ago) link
and might...
amended, pgwp
― imago, Friday, 4 October 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link
Thanks imago
Spending time with all these tracks nominees. Boy does ILM love house music
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 4 October 2019 23:28 (four years ago) link
I really wanted to listen at least a bit to everything on the tracks playlist, but I'm like a fifth of the way through and every time I hear a forgotten R&B hit from 2002, nostalgia overtakes it goes on my ballot and makes things much more complicated.
― tangenttangent, Saturday, 5 October 2019 19:40 (four years ago) link
It seems to have disappeared from Spotify (besides an instrumental version), so here is a reminder of this wonderful Solange song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBT-bIwGqW4
― tangenttangent, Saturday, 5 October 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link
I gave Sandcastle Disco a lot of points. Still mystified as to why that wasn't a huge hit.
― kitchen person, Saturday, 5 October 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
Not that I'm voting for it, but I'm assuming that whoever nominated Gorillaz - 19-2000 meant the remix version, because frankly
― imago, Saturday, 5 October 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
I know! It was on repeat in my house for like two years. Strange also how her sound now (still great) is such a departure from this. xp
― tangenttangent, Saturday, 5 October 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
The first Wilderness album is fucking immense. I hope I'm not the only one voting for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i3RI-B6Tb4
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Sunday, 6 October 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link
have just done a brutal first pass on the albums list, and having not clicked on any of these threads previously, I would like to insist before I go further that: tracks ballots should be expanded to 100 or 200, mixes / compilations should be a top ten in addition to albums, and there should be an EPs poll. thank you.
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Sunday, 6 October 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link
tracks ballot particularly brutal I agree, but at least it is equally brutal on us all
― imago, Sunday, 6 October 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link
from an even more aggressive first swing through the tracks I am starting with a shortlist of 140, but Dollar Sign by Sticky feat. Stush is not nominated, so I'm afraid ILM as a whole must be deleted and replaced
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Sunday, 6 October 2019 21:23 (four years ago) link
just became the first person ever to listen to the official youtube upload of Making Love In The Sunshine
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Sunday, 6 October 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link
Did "Seven Nation Army" really not get nominated? Lol.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Monday, 7 October 2019 00:36 (four years ago) link
I'm talking to myself at night because I forgot
― Vinnie, Monday, 7 October 2019 01:43 (four years ago) link
EMERGENCY
NOBODY NOMINATED PURPLE RIBBON ALL STARS "KRYPTONITE (I'M ON IT)"
ABORT POLL
― blows with the wind donors (crüt), Monday, 7 October 2019 02:02 (four years ago) link
Glenn Jones - Linden Avenue Stomp is included in the tracks playlist on Spotify but I don't see it on the Google list?
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Monday, 7 October 2019 04:23 (four years ago) link
It's under Jack Rose
― ogmor, Monday, 7 October 2019 07:25 (four years ago) link
people complaining about albums or tracks not nominated are pathetic. why didn't they nominate those items themselves in the first place?
― je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 7 October 2019 09:05 (four years ago) link
i don't think ppl are complaining at anyone but themselves, more marvelling at the ever-unfolding absurdity that is trying to come up with these lists
― ogmor, Monday, 7 October 2019 09:12 (four years ago) link
^^ otm.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 7 October 2019 09:14 (four years ago) link
Friendly reminder to everyone to listen to National Shite Day and vote for it, and if you've already voted without it, resubmit a ballot with it in
― imago, Monday, 7 October 2019 11:19 (four years ago) link
― je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Monday, October 7, 2019 4:05 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
you're pathetic ya dumb dumb!!!
― blows with the wind donors (crüt), Monday, 7 October 2019 11:38 (four years ago) link
i nominated tons of tracks i just forgot that one till just now. the fuck are YOU gonna vote for smart guy?
― blows with the wind donors (crüt), Monday, 7 October 2019 11:39 (four years ago) link
lol i was gonna do a post of songs that i was somewhat shocked and disheartened to see had not been nominated despite not having had room to nominate them myself
oh well, this is what happens when we're given a short ballot to work with! not necessarily a bad thing but it does lead to some surprise shutouts for some songs that might've been considered consensus-tho-low-enthusiasm shoo-ins
― dyl, Monday, 7 October 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link
ugh how am i gonna make this deadline
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 7 October 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link
send an unordered or mixed ballot and let your anxieties melt away
― blows with the wind donors (crüt), Monday, 7 October 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link
If anyone is still making a ballot and hasn't heard this, please check out Theo Bleckmann's (and Ben Monder's) version of "I Remember You". Nice atmospheric guitar sound from Monder and the emulation of CD-skipping glitch (done entirely live, as can be seen in multiple live videos) was really original and effective with the theme of the song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-RwzOGgVsY
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Monday, 7 October 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link
Although I consider unweighted ballots to be fundamentally cowardly I tragically had to bow to time pressure and submit a 1/2 weighted 1/2 unweighted ballot for albums. Managed a fully weighted ballot for tracks though.
― justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Monday, 7 October 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link
having to do some serious horse-trading between singles and albums lists, sorry Missy
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Monday, 7 October 2019 23:07 (four years ago) link
it was tough! my ballot is full of pop songs b/c i didn't happen upon my main source for discovering non-mainstream music (ilm) until 09 was nearly through. but i love them dearly and stand by all my choices.
i might have considered putting a particular sufjan stevens track on my ballot but i forgot about it so oh well, there isn't really anything i'd be happy to displace anyhow
― dyl, Monday, 7 October 2019 23:59 (four years ago) link
for whatever reason i thought the veronicas' "untouched" had not been nominated but i'm pleased to see that's not the case (didn't have room to vote for it anyway)
― dyl, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link
Down to 109 albums. What a decade.In terms of errors, someone seems to have nominated U2.― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Thursday, September 26, 2019 1:24 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglinkomar little is an ilx institution and we all have our reasons iirc― imago, Thursday, September 26, 2019 1:31 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Thursday, September 26, 2019 1:24 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
― imago, Thursday, September 26, 2019 1:31 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
i'd be lying to myself for false cool points if i didn't stick to my guns
― omar little, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 00:17 (four years ago) link
xp i'll be voting for untouched
― monotony, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 00:20 (four years ago) link
That rendition of "I Remember You" is... remarkable!
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 00:38 (four years ago) link
<3
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 00:48 (four years ago) link
was looking through my neglected old cdr binder and whoops maybe i need to tinker with my albums ballot some more.
― circles, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 03:15 (four years ago) link
Just realized I forgot to vote for Lady of a Certain Age. Damn it.
― o. nate, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link
just submitted mine. this was hard.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link
i put in an albums ballot, don't much care about rating tracks on this timescale
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:29 (four years ago) link
Told myself I would listen to a bunch of 00s albums in order to make my ballot, ended up mostly just listening to every destroyer and album and a bunch of lightning bolt and of montreal. I guess should probably vote that way also if I'm being honest.
― silverfish, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link
i voted - imperfect ballot but i wasn't willing to spend hours on it making it perfect and just wanted to get it sent in
― Mordy, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link
So, uh, could we maybe get an extension?
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link
ballots are gonna be wildly compromised and arbitrary no matter what, suck it up and kill yr darlings
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link
Voted. Didn't manage a tracks ballot - too stressful by far.
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link
extension though
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link
i actually made an albums of the '00s list a few years ago, i just need this for the sweet sweet tracks
Does your album list of some years ago still hold up or did you make quite some changes? Just curious
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link
for the most part it holds up. i am removing br*nd n*w but i think that's the only difference beyond some minor ranking adjustments
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
Yeah :/ I'm still struggling with them but they won't make my cut either.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link
On dis mammoth task again. I could have sworn someone (ArchCarrier?) nominated Johan's 'Pergola' album, but it's not in the document of nominations.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link
Ah my bad, checked it now, ArchCarrier nominated a single of that album, not the album itself. Fuck. Will have to leave off my favourite 'this will tip you over the edge if you are suicidal' album now (no really, I love it dearly).
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link
I'm surprised no one has pointed this out as I know there are going to be a rush of people voting for it: for King Creosote's KC Rules OK, there's no - between the artist and the album name.
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link
tbf i'm def voting for at least one chinaski nomination
― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link
[invisible ink]Six by Seven?[/invisible ink]
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link
i am nothing if not predictable lol
― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link
All power to you - it's fucking fantastic.
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link
The closer you geeeeeeeeeeet *guitaaaars*
― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link
*i
― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link
look it's been a long day ok
xxp "Tumble and Fall" is such a brilliant opener that I don't think I've even heard the rest of Pergola.
― ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:49 (four years ago) link
Gah, you totally should.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link
Will do!
― ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link
I sent in a slightly shorter mixed ballot today--35 songs instead of 50--and made up my own point system so that everything averaged out to 53 points per song. I'm really annoying that way. If that doesn't work, just adjust as you see fit (or forget the mixed part and give every song 53 points).
― clemenza, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link
The Closer You Get is up there with Mclusky Do Dallas as a pinnacle of guitar music for this decade and about as far from imago widdlywoo music as you could possibly get, do not let his enthusiasm discourage you winkyface
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link
(was gunna vote but my coffee table and the general contents of my eyeline are putting me off, it's all too much and alcohol)
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link
aw, you should vote. you should definitely vote if the closer you get is high in your ballot
― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link
everyone still has nearly a week anyway!
A week is a comfortable reassuring measure of time but then again alcohol, oh look Hood Cold House is in new answers, ok that's 3 albums right there, this is doable...
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link
Vote Hood Cold House, then alcohol again, then all is "well" (but vote Hood Cold House)
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link
Actually scanning the nominations list I will do this, midweek maybe wednesday around teatime
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link
The ONLY WORTHWHILE CLEARLAKE ALBUM, fuckit I'll do the albums tonight in a drunkit haze, maybe work on the tracks (the more important aspect obv) in the week
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:23 (four years ago) link
Is there one place with all the album nominations? Because I don't see Blueberry Boat on the pastebin list
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link
wait why is Blueberry Boat not in the pastebin link?― sleeve, Thursday, September 26, 2019 12:35 PM (one week ago) xp oh it's under "The Fiery Furnaces" along with Gallowsbird's Bark, carry on― sleeve, Thursday, September 26, 2019 12:49 PM (one week ago)
― sleeve, Thursday, September 26, 2019 12:35 PM (one week ago)
― sleeve, Thursday, September 26, 2019 12:49 PM (one week ago)
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link
Never mind I found it...there is some confusion with the "The" bands.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:36 (four years ago) link
Had the same reaction and then found it under The Firery...
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link
Haha delete post
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link
Gallowsbird's Bark prolly gunna narrowly miss the cut, Blechberry Spit getting ranked where it belongs
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link
Ok, done albums, if I haven't messed up the process. I put Six By Seven up there but not as high as Hood, is everyone happy?
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link
The ONLY WORTHWHILE CLEARLAKE ALBUM
spoiler: this (Lido) is one of my favourite albums of all time
― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:26 (four years ago) link
the other Clearlake albums are tbf good, Lido is lifechanging
Blueberry Boat is by 'The Fiery Furnaces' on the album cover, that's good enough for me. (Also lifechanging)
― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:27 (four years ago) link
I'll remember 'Blechberry Spit' during the rollout though :P
― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link
I actually think like 3/4 of my ballot is your type of thing, to my eternal shame. Blueberry Boat can fuck right off tho
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:29 (four years ago) link
...into the top 100
fwiw I almost suggested a demerit system where you could take 20, 40, 60, 80 or 100 points away from a track or album of your choice, perhaps entitled the James Murphy Bonus Prize. fortunately thought better of it
― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:32 (four years ago) link
Lido came along at just the right time for me, when I had just stopped doing drugs and was out of university with no degree and no job and was fried and sad and not sure what to do with my life, it felt like someone had captured my life and put it on cd, almost in a scary literal way.Cedars is also very good. 'Almost The Same' might well be their best track.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:34 (four years ago) link
my one-sentence review of Lido reads This album is a miracle coalescing from the Sussex sea air and capturing what all British indie ever was attempting to capture on their first goddamn try and really i don't have much to add, it is overwhelmingly resonant with the boredom and joy of being young, British and uncertain. I suppose I could add that the songwriting is exceptionally strong, but it's the mood above all that sustains it. i play it every xmas
― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:37 (four years ago) link
I was kinda on board for a wee while after, but Lido was kinda sui generis from where I am sat. They gradually degenerated into trad zzzzer that
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:38 (four years ago) link
Anyway I put FRIGHTENED RABBIT at 2, youse should all check that out, I'm not expecting a great deal of appreciation for it but that was pretty much my life in that period, I didn't get much Sussex sea air I suppose
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:43 (four years ago) link
almost suggested a demerit system where you could take 20, 40, 60, 80 or 100 points away from a track or album of your choice, perhaps entitled the James Murphy Bonus Prize. unfortunately thought better of it
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:45 (four years ago) link
753 points, 18 votes, 1 first place, 3 anti-votes, 2 worst place
^^^is this the future we wish for our descendents
― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:50 (four years ago) link
(will check out frightened rabbit!)
― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:52 (four years ago) link
I DID IT. Actually managed a weighted ballot for both albums and tracks. Only a small amount of handwringing over the fact that I am, at the end of the day, indie schmindie (although aside from Spoon in the top ten, I think I fall outside the most predictable quadrant of that cliche.)
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 23:07 (four years ago) link
Frightened Rabbit also very high on my ballot.
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link
I didn't squeeze Hood in (as it were) but very glad lots of other people are voting for it.
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:26 (four years ago) link
I'm voting for the wrong Hood album, sorry
― imago, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:28 (four years ago) link
'Outside Closer'? It's great, all Hood is greater than great, but I have to vote for 'Cold House'.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:29 (four years ago) link
I prefer Cold House myself.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link
oof, just noticed Rilo Kiley's Under the Blacklight isn't on the Albums list. well, on the bright side that's one less record I have to try and squeeze in.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link
ditto Kanye's Graduation. getting easier and easier.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link
I voted, thanks for running this shit LJ. Depending on if my file saved or not I might ask for a resend of my ballot come reveal time.
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link
think seandalai will be the person to ask for that! thank u for ur vote & ur thanks are appreciated
― imago, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link
am i reading that correctly, we only have a bit over 48 hours left to vote?
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 23:29 (four years ago) link
nah until sunday morning
― imago, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 23:32 (four years ago) link
oh wait no saturday morning haha. yes you're right
if there's a huge clamour for an extra day we'll see but would rather this got done
― imago, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 23:33 (four years ago) link
i'll be OK, just need to finish it and having a deadline helps.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 23:35 (four years ago) link
i'll be OK
― Bee OK
lol
― flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Thursday, 10 October 2019 01:10 (four years ago) link
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, October 9, 2019 12:16 PM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah, i meant to nom that but i figured someone else would. def the ye album i have most personal attachment too, so i would've voted for it. went for college dropout instead.
Same.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 10 October 2019 01:52 (four years ago) link
Voted
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 October 2019 03:05 (four years ago) link
― Brad C., Thursday, 10 October 2019 03:41 (four years ago) link
Voted after much agonising
― paolo, Thursday, 10 October 2019 08:26 (four years ago) link
Quick question: Studio is on the album list as "Studio - West Coast / Yearbook 1 -- these are more or less the same album".
Do we need to past the whole thing for the vote to count or just up to the titles?
― groovypanda, Thursday, 10 October 2019 10:25 (four years ago) link
looool sorry about that
i'll scan the results for all iterations of the album
― imago, Thursday, 10 October 2019 10:28 (four years ago) link
did a vote
― nxd, Thursday, 10 October 2019 10:42 (four years ago) link
― devvvine, Thursday, 10 October 2019 11:13 (four years ago) link
immediately registering an apology for leaving off purple haze, i'm so sorry
― devvvine, Thursday, 10 October 2019 11:24 (four years ago) link
Tracks were tough
― groovypanda, Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:01 (four years ago) link
i voted, unweighted though, it was time-consuming enough just to whittle down two lists to 50.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:06 (four years ago) link
finishing up my albums list, extension for songs pls
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link
Will ballots with write in votes be rejected outright?
― blows with the wind donors (crüt), Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link
forgot to nominate “sippin on some syrup”
― blows with the wind donors (crüt), Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link
leaving this bookmarked so I send some form of ballot tomorrow
― sleeve, Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:21 (four years ago) link
ballots with write-ins not rejected iirc but the write-its can't place (again iirc, not that they're likely to anyway)
― imago, Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link
👍🏻
― blows with the wind donors (crüt), Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link
i am trying to employ a one-song-per-artist policy but let it be hereby noted that i am TORN between Piece Of Me and Get Naked, and this might come down to a coinflip
― imago, Thursday, 10 October 2019 16:49 (four years ago) link
these are both ashlee simpson songs?
― flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link
get naked is obviously better, also I am voting for it so more chance of making it.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link
I'm playing Pieces of Me for imago now and he loves it.
― tangenttangent, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_Naked
― omar little, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link
i said it was decent ffs xp
― imago, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link
current huge regret is that Boris - Farewell wasn't nominated, as I'm not such a fan of the rest of Pink but this is above and beyond. tt sharing my regret by the looks of it
― imago, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link
it's "piece of me"
"get naked (i got a plan)" is still the greatest song title of all time though
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link
I meant I was playing Ashlee Simpson - imago needs no convincing with Britney, thankfully. My favourite from Blackout is probably Heaven on Earth, but how do you even really choose.
Pink is proving much more accessible and wonderful than I thought Boris actually is
― tangenttangent, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link
― kraudive, Thursday, 10 October 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link
I wasn't around for the noms, so was sad but not surprised to see my track of the decade wasn't included: "The Greater Times"
― kraudive, Thursday, 10 October 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link
still torn on Oops! vs Piece Of Me vs Toxic
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Thursday, 10 October 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link
― pomenitul, Thursday, 10 October 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link
i went toxic just over piece of me but if i did it today i probably would've gone piece of me instead - i really tried to include both but without the 1 artist 1 song rule it was just impossible
― Mordy, Thursday, 10 October 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link
Had I known someone else would've voted for it, I would've nommed it. Instead, the only entrant from PINK is the track I always skip.
Anyway, rushed a ballot in!
― HELLA FITZGERALD (Leee), Thursday, 10 October 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link
Fuck me! I guess I'm gonna have to cram for this tomorrow night. I already kinda know what the top part of each ballot will look like, so I may not even end up using all 50 places on either one.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 11 October 2019 03:08 (four years ago) link
got my albums ballot mostly done, and I'm half-way through organizing the tracks
― Dan S, Friday, 11 October 2019 05:00 (four years ago) link
Finally voted after agonizing for two weeks. I'm very excited to see the results, it seems there was at least twice as much music I wanted to vote for as ballot spots.
― Frobisher, Friday, 11 October 2019 05:10 (four years ago) link
Voted! Had to do unweighted for LPs as it was impossible to do otherwise.
"One track by each artist" principle was also not workable, Broadcast ended up with 2 or 3 (1 with The Focus Group)
Now to get on with the rest of my life.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 11 October 2019 10:46 (four years ago) link
I couldn't have come up with a list of tracks even if I wanted to. There are limits.
― pomenitul, Friday, 11 October 2019 10:56 (four years ago) link
Can I, uh, resubmit my ballot? I made a catastrophic mistake, ranking-wise.
― pomenitul, Friday, 11 October 2019 13:06 (four years ago) link
tracks was easy enough but albums was impossible. had to set myself a one album per artist rule to get it down from 70ish to 50.
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 11 October 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link
Voted. Albums only, that was agony enough. Didn't get around to ranking them either, which is also extremely lame. Great poll imago!1! :)
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 11 October 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link
When is the rollout likely to start - next week or the week after?
― groovypanda, Friday, 11 October 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link
I voted. Decided to just go with whatever I was into the most these days, made a top 15 or so and then just randomly took enough other tracks or albums from my initial whittling to fill the unranked part of my ballot. It's not exactly fair, but at least it's arbitrary.
― silverfish, Friday, 11 October 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link
It's still open, right? I can vote through midnight tonight?
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 11 October 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link
I kind of did what Silverfish did. I found myself throwing out several songs I'd previously rated highly. (BoC's Dawn Chorus is fine, but pretty repetitious and the voice samples completely ruin it for me.) I don't know why I used to consider this song a standout of that album, let alone the decade. One thing that made this poll so much fun is that this is probably my least favorite decade of music since the sixties, and it has caused me to take a closer listen to a lot stuff I missed.
― beard papa, Friday, 11 October 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link
Argh, I have 40 albums I definitely want to vote for and like another 40 I probably want to vote for and no time to listen to them all before arbitrarily squeezing them down. And the tracks "shortlist" is still in the hundreds...
Can I submit album and tracks polls separately or will that confuse the system?
(This is fun! Too bad I missed the nominations stage as I won't be able to vote for Cave - "Psychic Psummer" and probably a lot of other stuff I haven't thought of because thinking of it would be a waste of brainpower!)
― a passing spacecadet, Friday, 11 October 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link
Would it be bad to clutter this thread with things we would have nominated, or should we save those for after the results?
― beard papa, Friday, 11 October 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link
oh boy the songs list is overwhelming to put together but i'm gonna do my best
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link
i should've nominated mark e's "you" but it's not like i mind voting for "rnb drunkie" instead bc it's also perfect
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link
i feel like creepin' to some old school (funk!)i feel like dancing the night with you! (funk!)
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link
heh otm i nommed rnb drunkie
i need to vote still, and i will
― johnny crunch, Friday, 11 October 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 11 October 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link
It surprised me a little how song-oriented my tracks ballot turned out, in sharp contrast to my albums ballot. I guess when I think in terms of tracks that stand out in my mind, it's songs that really register, at least as far as 00-09 goes.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 11 October 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link
it's quite funny how all the questions you're asking can be answered the same way: "yes, it's fine, but seandalai will say if otherwise"
― imago, Friday, 11 October 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link
one complaint i have is that my favorite ashanti song wasn't nominated ("rock wit you (awww baby)")
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link
gonna vote for "only you" instead
Queued up what I feel most likely to vote for. Know my number one but the rest...ballot is going to be a total shitshow lol
― gyac, Friday, 11 October 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link
gimme the weekend lj
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link
how close are you to having the ballots done?
― imago, Friday, 11 October 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link
later this evening, NYC time
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 11 October 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link
I assume this was also a response to my question. I'll resubmit my ballot shortly, then.
― pomenitul, Friday, 11 October 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link
i know chris brown sucks but it still bummed me out that "no air" wasn't nominated
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link
― imago, Friday, October 11, 2019 12:06 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
idk songs is still a mess. i could prob have something done but it would be incredibly late tonight
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link
it won't be closed until late morning anyway!
― imago, Friday, 11 October 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link
I've barely dipped into this thread, but the Lord has heard your cries, and he will respond.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 October 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link
i could make a list of just r&b, both tracks and albums
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link
The Fish Brothers And Eastend – We All Shout The Millwall Song is missing
― saer, Friday, 11 October 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link
Re-voted. Apologies for the hassle, LJ & seandalai.
― pomenitul, Friday, 11 October 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link
thanks for this poll already bc it reminded me of what an incredible song lloyd's "get it shawty" is
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link
and Jazmine Sullivan's "Bust Your Windows." God.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 October 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link
and please vote for Ne-Yo's "So Sick" or "Because of You" kthx
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 October 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link
so many of these songs are my favorite song of all time. def voting for "because of you"
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 19:35 (four years ago) link
Submitted a tracks ballot.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 October 2019 19:38 (four years ago) link
"Gimme The Weekend, LJ" is an underrated slow-burn R&B classic
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Friday, 11 October 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 19:51 (four years ago) link
“Knuck If You Buck” is so beautiful it makes me cry
― blows with the wind donors (crüt), Friday, 11 October 2019 19:51 (four years ago) link
Voted -- 30 albums, 50 tracks
― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 11 October 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link
Lj I have 95% sorted out my ballot but left it on my laptop at work, can I still send it to you tomorrow morning?
― a hoy hoy, Friday, 11 October 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Friday, 11 October 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link
― a hoy hoy, Friday, October 11, 2019 8:05 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
You can submit it to the ballot page linked at the top of this threaf! I'll ask seandalai to wait until late morning...
― imago, Friday, 11 October 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link
*thread
Submitted! This was way easier than originally anticipated, and highly nostalgic. Not nearly enough quality tracks nominated, but there were so many already present it was easier to cobble together a list. My top 10 albums could all be #1. Would be cool if I could do a reverse mixed ballot where the top 10 were unweighted (tied for 1st) and the rest were weighted.
― octobeard, Friday, 11 October 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link
i have voted for the meadowlands
― ciderpress, Friday, 11 October 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link
sorry if i missed this but how many albums and tracks will be in the rollout, top 100, 77, etc?
― omar little, Friday, 11 October 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link
the thought is 100
― imago, Friday, 11 October 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link
can't we have an extension to sunday morning? i have got the albums ready but the tracks i haven't started yet. in one of your previous posts you said sunday, imago. otherwise i can't do tracks.
― je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 11 October 2019 21:14 (four years ago) link
voted, with the most hastily assembled ballots of my life. I will be deeply unhappy with them in, five, four, three...
― Tim F, Friday, 11 October 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link
i said sunday mistakenly then corrected myself a few seconds later
hmph
― imago, Friday, 11 October 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 6:39 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
if this had been the reggaeton mix it would have been high on my ballot.
― Tim F, Friday, 11 October 2019 21:16 (four years ago) link
ALSO, my instinct is to do albums first, then tracks second. anyone with any enormous objections?
― imago, Friday, 11 October 2019 21:16 (four years ago) link
Voted!
That was tough, could have easily done another ballot I'd be happy with with an entirely different set of nominations.
― Dan Worsley, Friday, 11 October 2019 21:19 (four years ago) link
I haven't forgotten how Tim F introduced me to the Aeroplane ft. Kathy Diamond remix of "Whispers."
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 October 2019 21:27 (four years ago) link
David Guetta ft. Kelly Rowland - When Love Takes Over
can i just say that i love that this was nominated
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link
everyone still has nearly a week anyway!― imago, Dienstag, 8. Oktober 2019 23:00 (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
― imago, Dienstag, 8. Oktober 2019 23:00 (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
― je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 11 October 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link
I don't generally like to nominate tracks because I don't have a good sense of what were actual singles, so I just would pick my favorite songs off the albums I nominate, but putting my tracks list together made me wish I had offered up some nominations because there were definitely some key tracks that should have been on there.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 11 October 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link
voted, both ballots mixed
― sleeve, Friday, 11 October 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link
The requisite singing along of compiling a ballot is what really takes it out of you.
― tangenttangent, Friday, 11 October 2019 22:09 (four years ago) link
― Dan S, Friday, 11 October 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link
ALSO, my instinct is to do albums first, then tracks second. anyone with any enormous objections?― imago, Friday, 11 October 2019 22:16 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― imago, Friday, 11 October 2019 22:16 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
I prefer albums* myself so would enjoy that rolling out first so no complaints from me.
* I never did get round to doing the lifetime of ilm metal tracks poll (did the albums one in 2016) so after this polls all done & dusted I might be able to run the heavy Rock,Noise & Metal tracks poll I promised 3 years ago get it over and done with before the EOY polls in January.
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Friday, 11 October 2019 22:23 (four years ago) link
I vote tracks first. There's a likelihood of weirder variety, and listening along makes thread engagement fun and immediate, rather than just thinking your memories of an album. This spurs excitement that can carry on into and energise the albums rollout.
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Friday, 11 October 2019 22:34 (four years ago) link
well, let's see which top 100 is weirder first!
― imago, Friday, 11 October 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link
lol my eyes glazed right over “whispers”.
imago would it be a major hassle for me to submit a modified ballot?
― Tim F, Friday, 11 October 2019 22:47 (four years ago) link
I left the house today and bought clear liquor with a genuine intention to do a tracks ballot, but i opened the doc and fuck you for this oppressively hard task, nah I'm closing this and walking away, also I looked at the albums ballot I submitted the other night and this is bafflingly wrong, I'll stand by it due to some In Vino Veritas bullshit but I'm apologising right now for not even noticing The Meadowlands on the list, what is on there is all in the wrong order, I've picked the wrong albums for the one-album-per-artist self-imposed nonsense, che vergogna. It's all good stuff though, nah fuckit this is my truth. Tracks would have been well different, just cos of different mode of consumption, but I'm not up to it and I'm ultimately responsible for the life choices that led me to this place
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Friday, 11 October 2019 22:47 (four years ago) link
I miss people and cats from this period and some of these songs are Proustianly unhelpful
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Friday, 11 October 2019 22:50 (four years ago) link
Otm re: missing cats. Hard alcohol is definitely what's missing for finishing this task. Cutting the last ten is an absolute killer.
― tangenttangent, Friday, 11 October 2019 22:53 (four years ago) link
no major hassle to resubmit!
have messaged seandalai asking about a one-day extension fyi mumble/mainhattan
― imago, Friday, 11 October 2019 22:55 (four years ago) link
the ne-yo track i voted for was "miss independent"
― ufo, Friday, 11 October 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link
I also resubmitted my ballot because I accidentally voted for something twice on the tracks poll
― Dan S, Friday, 11 October 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link
Oh fuck no I ain't resubmitting nuthin, don't make me go back! Just as long as we all recognise that THE MEADOWLANDS by THE WRENS is A COLOSALL WORK OF ART, regardless if any particular fuckwit neglected to mention it. That fact is better shouted from rooftops than collated in polls anyrate
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Friday, 11 October 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link
:)
― Dan S, Friday, 11 October 2019 23:04 (four years ago) link
Hey all, I've been out of the loop but now back on it. If you've submitted multiple tracks ballots or multiple albums ballots I'll just assume the last one is right. If I shouldn't be assuming this please post again itt.
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Friday, 11 October 2019 23:09 (four years ago) link
thanks imago!
― Tim F, Friday, 11 October 2019 23:11 (four years ago) link
We Are Beautiful, We Are Doomed by Los Campesinos! came with two badges, "wab" and "wad". "wad" is still on my jacket cos yeah, I'm still wearing the same jacket, what of it? last time I saw "wab" it was getting on a train to London, who knows what became of it? I hope it is doing well and finally found the family it was looking for. The album is at number... six on my list, apparently. I would say it deserved more, it meant a lot to me, but the five above it are pretty fucken good, so lets just go with that. And that's the dilemma I have with every single album here, and why I amn't even considering any resubmission, too much heavy shit involved with every consideration, is that better that that? But then again, that was playing then, and, and... My former fiancee was born in Kortedala, but I remembered when we heard that Jens song for the first time, and that was from that Jens album... I take this shit seriously, and that's why I have to be drunkit to to do this, and that's why I can't do it at all, and btw I have so much love for all of you and your capacity to do better than me
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Friday, 11 October 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link
I think I want to re-order my albums ballot but not tracks so I'll resubmit my albums ballot but not tracks (as i didnt take note of my tracks ballot) is that ok?
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Friday, 11 October 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link
I tried that, you have to resubmit both again as far as I can see
― Dan S, Friday, 11 October 2019 23:23 (four years ago) link
maybe not
― Dan S, Friday, 11 October 2019 23:24 (four years ago) link
that was so hard and i even lost my first version of my albums poll, so i had to redo it. that was some work but glad i'm done.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 12 October 2019 00:29 (four years ago) link
Voted, didn’t do an album ballot in the end but that was haaard and there was nothing between some of my choices
― gyac, Saturday, 12 October 2019 00:35 (four years ago) link
― imago, Saturday, 12 October 2019 00:38 (four years ago) link
― tangenttangent, Saturday, 12 October 2019 00:42 (four years ago) link
Oh man, this is stressful, I haven't studied at all.
― jmm, Saturday, 12 October 2019 00:45 (four years ago) link
resubmitted again, sorry for the second revision, the tracks list is difficult, I keep rethinking what mattered the most to me that decade, ended up re-ordering my top 10
― Dan S, Saturday, 12 October 2019 00:47 (four years ago) link
voted and gleefully discarded any self-imposed rules. forgot a few tracks. may drink and resubmit.
― beard papa, Saturday, 12 October 2019 00:54 (four years ago) link
Albums done and submitted, pretty easy.Tracks is a whole nother thing. Gonna be at this for a while.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 12 October 2019 01:15 (four years ago) link
Voted! There were a shitload of good songs in the 2000s. Holy mackerel
― kornrulez6969, Saturday, 12 October 2019 01:27 (four years ago) link
yep i did albums easy-ish also, tracks is tuff~
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 12 October 2019 01:28 (four years ago) link
Done! I only repeated one artist (Missy) in tracks, no repeats in albums. Viva variety!
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 12 October 2019 01:59 (four years ago) link
Resubmitted my albums (no changes, but I had to fix a typo on the last entry)
― jmm, Saturday, 12 October 2019 02:22 (four years ago) link
typo?
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 12 October 2019 02:22 (four years ago) link
I copied my picks from the nominations list into a Word file, and from there into the voting form, but Word autocorrected one of the hyphens into a dash. So I just fixed that.
― jmm, Saturday, 12 October 2019 02:32 (four years ago) link
Ah, just wanted to make sure.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 12 October 2019 02:44 (four years ago) link
love the video for Lust for Life, it's the most SF thing ever
also the one for Hellhole Ratrace which should have been nominated
― Dan S, Saturday, 12 October 2019 02:46 (four years ago) link
ugh the TRACKS god
― american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 12 October 2019 02:46 (four years ago) link
where's yung joc it's goin' down
― american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 12 October 2019 02:48 (four years ago) link
Nobody nominated Monster Hospital, so I had to vote for Help I'm Alive. That's ok.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 12 October 2019 02:52 (four years ago) link
― lingereffect (Kent Burt), Saturday, 12 October 2019 03:35 (four years ago) link
voted aaaaaaagh
― Simon H., Saturday, 12 October 2019 04:25 (four years ago) link
gonna need that extra day
― american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 12 October 2019 04:53 (four years ago) link
Albums have to close.
Xpost
― Bee OK, Saturday, 12 October 2019 04:55 (four years ago) link
I wish I had a boyfriendI wish I had a loving man in my lifeI wish I had a fatherMaybe then I would've turned out right
Now I'm just crazy, and totally madYeah I'm just crazy, and fucked in the head
And maybe if I really try with all of my heartThen I could make a brand new start in love with you
― Dan S, Saturday, 12 October 2019 05:09 (four years ago) link
love those lyrics and the ones that follow
― Dan S, Saturday, 12 October 2019 05:11 (four years ago) link
― je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 12 October 2019 05:27 (four years ago) link
another song i wish i had nominated: david banner "get like me"
― blows with the wind donors (crüt), Saturday, 12 October 2019 05:31 (four years ago) link
― blows with the wind donors (crüt), Saturday, 12 October 2019 07:05 (four years ago) link
seandalai will close nominations tonight (saturday night), you all have another day effectively
― imago, Saturday, 12 October 2019 08:42 (four years ago) link
thank you seandalai!
brb cancelling all appointments for the day for some important Spotify mining
― a passing spacecadet, Saturday, 12 October 2019 09:40 (four years ago) link
How did ILM managing to get through the nominations process without including either of the first two Fiery Furnaces records or Ciara's The Evolution? Both would have been unthinkable omissions at the time they came out.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 12 October 2019 10:03 (four years ago) link
I just realised there's only one Jay-Z album nominated as well.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 12 October 2019 10:05 (four years ago) link
Also can I be churlish and point out that 'The Magical World of the Strands' was relaased in 1998 and definitely doesn't count here?
― Matt DC, Saturday, 12 October 2019 10:09 (four years ago) link
How did ILM managing to get through the nominations process without including either of the first two Fiery Furnaces records
NOUGHT BUT THE TRUTH: 2000-2009 albums & tracks VOTING (and campaigning) thread DEADLINE OCTOBER 11
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Saturday, 12 October 2019 10:09 (four years ago) link
xp. thanks so much for the extension, seandalai. i have about 40 tracks now and still to listen to my extract of other people's nominations from f to z. i will be ready tonight, european time.
― je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 12 October 2019 10:10 (four years ago) link
Foiled by definite article once again.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 12 October 2019 10:16 (four years ago) link
Voted. Thanks!
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Saturday, 12 October 2019 10:54 (four years ago) link
Hahaha no one nominated 'Survivor' either.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 12 October 2019 11:10 (four years ago) link
This'll be a suitably spiritual successor to the original 2000-2004 poll as a result of all the omissions (although there were rather more brutal nomination restrictions with that first poll). Hope there's at least over 60 ballots.
― nashwan, Saturday, 12 October 2019 11:17 (four years ago) link
Compelled to send an edited tracks ballot sorry
― or something, Saturday, 12 October 2019 12:45 (four years ago) link
I ended up voting with my heart on the albums list and heavily tactically on the tracks ballot. Impossible to pick my genuine ten favourite songs from an entire decade so I ended up piling the top 10 with records I both loved and passionately felt should be represented.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 12 October 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link
lol, Blueberry Boat was the first thing nominated in the entire poll
― imago, Saturday, 12 October 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link
I haven't listened to The Meadowlands in forever, but man, it aged tremendously well.
― jmm, Saturday, 12 October 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link
Oni Ayhun - OAR004-ARobyn - Dancing On My Own― nashwan, Monday, September 23, 2019 5:01 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglinkall zapped― imago, Tuesday, September 24, 2019 7:08 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
― imago, Tuesday, September 24, 2019 7:08 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
these did get a few votes (three so far) - those votes will be zapped (not the whole ballot, just those tracks); in a ranked ballot the tracks below will be moved up one position
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Saturday, 12 October 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link
When meadowlands places someone will have to explain to me why it’s so beloved
― Mordy, Saturday, 12 October 2019 16:06 (four years ago) link
I might even have to listen to it
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Saturday, 12 October 2019 16:11 (four years ago) link
Didn't quite manage to fill the ballot as I've been attempting to finagle my way into the Après Ski scene and I didn't want to take my chances with a fat ballot I might have to explain on the fly. Nevertheless, I voted.
― saer, Saturday, 12 October 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link
Voted twice today. One for parliamentary elections, one for ILX.My nominations were late and I had to let go of some top favorites, so I really can't complain about the selection. But it's rather poor to be honest :PBig thanks to the organizers for the idea.
― Nabozo, Saturday, 12 October 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link
Man, making a ballot is hard! I thought everything I liked would be nominated by someone else, but I forgot I'm the only Dane on here, one of few Scandinavs. I think I'm missing, like, ten albums I'd want to put on there, and that makes it all really hard.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 12 October 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link
How am I supposed to make a ballot without Håkan Hellström or Kaizers Orchestra or Bjørn Svin or Under Byen or Tiger Tunes or...
― Frederik B, Saturday, 12 October 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link
― Frederik B, Saturday, 12 October 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link
done, at least i got my act together to make top 5 mixed ballots. very curious about the overall results. thanks a lot for making this possible imago and seandalai.
― je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 12 October 2019 21:23 (four years ago) link
Going to shut this down in about half an hour - unless there's someone out there furiously working through the nominations after three weeks of procrastination?
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Saturday, 12 October 2019 22:41 (four years ago) link
me!!!! i’m not done yet!
― american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 12 October 2019 22:43 (four years ago) link
i am almost done but i’m about to head into a movie :|
I am theoretically just about to submit, I hope
― a passing spacecadet, Saturday, 12 October 2019 22:51 (four years ago) link
ok I can leave it go until the morning if imago's ok with that
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Saturday, 12 October 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link
OK, I've submitted
let me know if yr magic can't parse my ballot, I took the lines from the txt version but trimmed the trailing spaces, hoping that works out the same as the Google sheets version in the end...
oh and thanks very much!
― a passing spacecadet, Saturday, 12 October 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link
all good!
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Saturday, 12 October 2019 23:14 (four years ago) link
Blueberry Boat gunna win this isn't it :(
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Saturday, 12 October 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link
btw I relistened to EP this morning, it was awesome! Didn't relisten to Gallowsbird Bark, but I assume it retains its awesomeness. But fucksake, Blueberry fucken Boat is gunna win this whole fucken thing, isn't it
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Saturday, 12 October 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link
morning it is! may mumble's nightmares all come true
― imago, Saturday, 12 October 2019 23:45 (four years ago) link
I am resigned to certain inevitable outcomes. But at least I got some folk to listen to Frightened Rabbit oh wait you never even did that didye? oh well, MCLUSKY DO DALLAS FTW my band in this decade was named BATFiNK! my wee brother played bass and insisted on that notation. My band circa like 2008ish-2016 was called The Ragdoll Physicists, better name but not as good as BATFiNK! point is I forget why this is the point but my current band is called I'VE GOT A KNIFE and yeah I'm drunk but I've got a lot to be drunk about
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Sunday, 13 October 2019 00:10 (four years ago) link
had completely forgotten about EP when doing all my 00s listening (it seems like its weird status means it gets relatively overlooked compared to the first two fiery furnaces albums?) but im listening to it for the first time now and its by far my favourite fiery furnaces release already. all the things i liked from blueberry boat without the annoying bits
― ufo, Sunday, 13 October 2019 00:31 (four years ago) link
all right i'm fuckin done
― american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 13 October 2019 05:05 (four years ago) link
ok we're all done!
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Sunday, 13 October 2019 09:18 (four years ago) link
When's the first roll-out?
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 13 October 2019 10:50 (four years ago) link
Tangmago Towers currently strategising visual presentation...
― imago, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:21 (four years ago) link
Some numbers while we wait:
In the TRACKS poll, 100 voters gave points to 1560 tracks by 1185 artists.In the ALBUMS poll, 111 voters gave points to 1397 albums by 1259 artists.
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:23 (four years ago) link
Hats off to the 100 people who managed to put a ballot together for the tracks poll.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link
And to the esteemed pollrunners, of course.
Yep fair fucks to ye. Love LBI being straight I there with “when is it?!” cos I was wondering the same.
― gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:38 (four years ago) link
my phone has lost the power to use the internet, so it'll be 'while I'm at home' basically, which, tomorrow, means 'UK afternoon, and very late evening' - might post 10 either side of the jump. will def try to get it going tomorrow
― imago, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link
do we still want remix votes as part of the numbers for songs? i'm a bit torn because remixes are functionally completely different listening experiences...on the other hand, people might have still voted for the originals. what do we think. NOT THAT THIS CHANGES TOO MUCH *taps nose*
― imago, Sunday, 13 October 2019 12:45 (four years ago) link
Add them together I say, voted for some remixes where I could have just as easily voted for the original (heartbeats, forever more). Seems unfair to punish a track for having another excellent version of itself
― or something, Sunday, 13 October 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link
i think the only version of “forever more” nominated was the remix. regardless i have no opinion about this, both approaches have their merits
― american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 13 October 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link
one might argue that when a track is remixed, it is no longer itself. also a 'divorced' approach celebrates remixes as discrete entities, of which several are in the top 100 under their own steam! i've asked seandalai to send the version of the rundown with remixes separated and i'll make a decision based on what you all say here + my gut instinct...
― imago, Sunday, 13 October 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link
no to combining remixes
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Sunday, 13 October 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link
Remixes separate imo
― nashwan, Sunday, 13 October 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link
why wouldn't we combine remixes? we do during the EOY polls, and it gives a disadvantage to tracks that have a popular remix or more than one remix.
― flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Sunday, 13 October 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link
it doesn't sit entirely right with me
fyi the only changes would be cosmetic, except for one unlucky song lol, but do we not love drama here?
plead on, all sides
― imago, Sunday, 13 October 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link
were that many remixes even in there? keep them separate imo
― gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 14:30 (four years ago) link
you cannot perform the same track twice but remixing is not the same as sampling, keeping the title is a choice to maintain the link the original, & it's ilx convention
― ogmor, Sunday, 13 October 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link
Would you do the same with covers?
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 13 October 2019 14:45 (four years ago) link
obviously not, but i appreciate there is a difference
― imago, Sunday, 13 October 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link
anything that gives more votes to mr brightside should be nixed on principle
― blows with the wind donors (crüt), Sunday, 13 October 2019 14:55 (four years ago) link
lol i was just jamming the thin white duke remix. anyway you're obviously wrong
― american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 13 October 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link
Feel like if there was a rule re remixes vs originals it should have been made before voting. What’s the point of having two options in the nominations?
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 13 October 2019 14:58 (four years ago) link
i never
― blows with the wind donors (crüt), Sunday, 13 October 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link
i did make noises before voting began along the lines of 'this time i don't want to combine them' but nothing was finalised
hmmm!
― imago, Sunday, 13 October 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link
covers don't usually function in the same way (never heard of a cover version included on a single) so I can't imagine it being an issue, but if there was a case where the cover version did come out immediately and was v much part of the same thing (a la mike flowers pops or frankee f u right back or whatever) and there was real split enthusiasm then sure, bundle them together. has anyone ever voted for an original and a remix? ofc no one thought you had to. splitting them serves no practical purpose other than making them less likely to show up.
― ogmor, Sunday, 13 October 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link
i am happy to have another occasion to dunk on mr brightside
destiny is calling me
― flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Sunday, 13 October 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link
has anyone ever voted for an original and a remix?
Perhaps not but e.g. I didn't consider voting for "Everything in Its Right Place" bc the nominated track was a remix (that came out 9 years later than the original). The Aphex Twin remix of "Heroes" does work pretty differently from the original track. I can easily think of cover songs that are more faithful. It's not at all obvious to me that imago's original impulse was wrong.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 13 October 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link
the faithfulness of covers is not the issue. I think once a track is nominated you should be able to vote for whichever version you like and in the rollout the most popular version should be listed with a breakdown of votes for other versions. having the same song showing up twice would be stupid, in practice tho they're just less likely to appear
― ogmor, Sunday, 13 October 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link
Covers are the same song but not the same track. Remixes are not necessarily either, although they do use recorded material from the original track.xp
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 13 October 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link
I'm fine either way but I don't see why the rule should be changed at this point.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 13 October 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link
although I actually like "Mr. Brightside" so maybe we should combine them and give an extra vote to "Everything".
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 13 October 2019 15:18 (four years ago) link
i think trying to carefully preserve the integrity of the ideal object doesn't acknowledge how music functions. all sound is queer. i want to specifically vote for a milli as played through my old desktop pc speakers
― ogmor, Sunday, 13 October 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link
in the rollout the most popular version should be listed with a breakdown of votes for other versions.
― je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Sunday, 13 October 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link
Arghh I'm away for a congress in Edinburgh and will miss the roll-out then this week -_-
Will catch up and bombard thread afterwards.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 13 October 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link
have been sent the non-merging version. there are TWO casualties in fact. difficult decision and i have to make it now so tt has the right stats for the images...
― imago, Sunday, 13 October 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link
If they are different then they are different
― saer, Sunday, 13 October 2019 16:46 (four years ago) link
^^ truth
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 13 October 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link
If you merge and show the breakdown then people can adjust in their heads if they feel it's an injustice? Harder to do it the other way round.
― Thank You (Fattekin Mice Elf Control Again) (Noel Emits), Sunday, 13 October 2019 16:48 (four years ago) link
I think they should be rcounted separately, but the merge and show numbers approach is a good compromise.
― beard papa, Sunday, 13 October 2019 16:54 (four years ago) link
OKAY
a decision has been reached, albeit a painful one
We will go by ILX convention and merge numbers
the pros very slightly outweigh the cons
believe me, I wanted to throw this convention in the trash as (having listened to one of the potential casualties) the remix was absolutely nothing like the original, but when it came down to it, the fact I hadn't specified beforehand that remixes would be counted separately was the clincher
we will hopefully begin rollouts tomorrow, with maybe even a few tonight if tt's ready...
― imago, Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link
This is news to me. I hope you all like low image resolution
― tangenttangent, Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link
just like in the noughties!
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link
(never heard of a cover version included on a single) I can immediately think of three examplesalthough I’m opposed to any Lu Contless version of Mr Brightside placing, merging and noting is the least damaging option given the lack of clarity. iirc the Friendly Fires version of Paris wasn’t nominated, so we’ll be spared that particular travesty of merging
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link
I probably won't read an article with that title but it is possible to recognize the mutability and subjectivity of sonic experience (and to have taught remixing for a few years) and still think that remixes should be recognized as distinct pieces of work in their own right. No beef with imago's decision, though.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link
The problem is knowing the names of things. We make our own prisons. In Greggs I say "one of those"
― saer, Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link
Would anyone object to us doing 10 tonight and 10 tomorrow?
― imago, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link
Sounds great! Is it still going to be albums first?
― jmm, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link
no
― imago, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link
I didn't vote in this, just was not in touch enough with the broad spread of music in that decade, but super excited to see the results and learn!
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link
Are We Having Fun Yet? ILM's Top 100 Tracks Of The 00's
― imago, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link
top tracks of the '70s?
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Sunday, 13 October 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link
Still holding out for 20s
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 13 October 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link
― tangenttangent, Sunday, October 13, 2019 7:06 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Please tt don't hurt 'im!
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 13 October 2019 19:19 (four years ago) link
Bill Griffith was born in 1944
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Sunday, 13 October 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link
Er, just clicked on the link now and saw that that article was written by an ilxor I respect and one of whose albums I voted for. Sorry about that:(. If it helps, I was feeling annoyed by the argument on here more than anything else.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Monday, 14 October 2019 03:10 (four years ago) link
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Monday, 14 October 2019 05:53 (four years ago) link
coulda ruled out Dead Prez for being first released in early '99 too
― nashwan, Monday, 14 October 2019 07:57 (four years ago) link