― , Wednesday, 23 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
"Fuck, that's Henry Rollins!" I say.
And it was. He was doing the world's most unfunny stand-up on Comedy Central. After I realized who it was, though, it became the most hilarious thing I had ever seen - I mean, why is Henry Rollins doing stand-up? Why does he do poetry readings? He's like the naughty librarian in bad films, he puts on his glasses and he goes on stage and chats and acts normal, then he takes them off and stomps around and screams like the Incredible Hulk.
I really like the song Liar and I don't know why. I remember the Rollins Band performing it on the Grammys, and me and my dad watching it. He watched it in utmost fascination, and when it was done, said, "Hmm. That was interesting". Which is the most diverse musical comment I've ever gotten out of my dad regarding a post-1977 band ever, so I was impressed. I think I like him much better in theory than I do in reality.
Oh, and he's the only person I've ever met who frightened me. Not that he wasn't a nice enough seeming guy, but he was enormous and I met him in a gym for christ's sake - "Oh, there's Henry Rollins, doing bench presses, let's go talk to him!" Uh, let's not. His neck is like twice the size of his head.
― Ally, Wednesday, 23 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― alex in nyc, Wednesday, 23 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ally, Thursday, 24 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Josh, Thursday, 24 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Mike Hanley, Thursday, 24 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― gareth, Thursday, 24 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
His ethos is so ultra-macho that it goes over the top and becomes silly and cartoonish. He's sort of like the butch version of Axl Rose with less interesting songs. His songs are okay, but they all take themselves so seriously that I simply can't. I like a little bit of his spoken word stuff and his publishing company has put out some good books, but for the life of me I cannot take him seriously.
― Nicole, Thursday, 24 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Venga, Thursday, 24 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― geordie racer, Thursday, 24 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
His music, however, is turgid, overbearing, and not what I want to listen to. At all.
― Sean Carruthers, Friday, 25 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
he's like a comic book superhero. his veins are silly.
― keith, Saturday, 26 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― geordie racer, Saturday, 26 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Dave, Friday, 28 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_3g4QPojMc
― chaki, Sunday, 24 February 2008 00:09 (sixteen years ago) link
his people skills have gotten better i think
― latebloomer, Sunday, 24 February 2008 00:12 (sixteen years ago) link
love the stevenson belch at the end lol
― latebloomer, Sunday, 24 February 2008 00:16 (sixteen years ago) link
That poor guy probably still has nightmares about that night.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 24 February 2008 00:22 (sixteen years ago) link
his people skills have gotten better i think -- latebloomer, Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:12 PM (3 hours ago)
One would fucking hope.
I've not previously had much wrong with Rollins' and his schtick, Damaged was the first hardcore album I ever bought, and it's still second-best. I've never gotten on his case for much, not for the self-important spoken word crap, nor his self-contradicting coffee-generation anti-drug shit, but seeing that clip makes me think maybe he's just a fucking asshole after all.
the other thing that occurs to me is that while I don't have much issue with the Minutemen, most of the other bands from the SST roster that Henry recites just weren't very good, and the poor kid's apathy and ignorance of them was entirely justified
― SecondBassman, Sunday, 24 February 2008 03:57 (sixteen years ago) link
Keep in mind, though, that Henry was just about 22 or 23 there, and the lead singer of a pretty dogmatic punk band. I'd be disappointed if wasn't acting like an asshole.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 24 February 2008 04:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Alright, but gets me thinking of this article I dug out a few years ago, some guy for the LA Times had interviewed Flag when they first burtst out and the LAPD was busting heads all over town at HC gigs.
Guy had contrasted American punk (read LA Hardcore) with English punk, talked about how the Flag and the Jerks were well spoken and polite, whereas the Clash and the Pistols were know for being as rude as they possibly could.
A nice dialectic, but I guess a false one, at least seeing Rollins there.
― SecondBassman, Sunday, 24 February 2008 04:50 (sixteen years ago) link
that kid's from dearborn!!! I wonder what happened to him. He mustve gone to some of those early negative approach shows.
I actually dont mind if rollins wants to be an asshole like he is in this interview, if that's what his hardkore persona was all about and the fans demanded on some level. Its this new smug "I can stand on stage and do horrible smug, obvious stand up comedy and then call it "spoken word" so its unassailable" thing that pisses me off.
but from the looks of his ebay buys and what he plays on his radio show he's got an awesome taste in music
― filthy dylan, Sunday, 24 February 2008 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1_E34CTcY7k
― Jack Burton, Sunday, 24 February 2008 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link
I think Rollins has chilled out a lot. I wouldn't know personally, but the things I've read/hear seem to indicate that he's a pretty polite and nice dude these days.
― circa1916, Sunday, 24 February 2008 23:21 (sixteen years ago) link
I've interviewed him four or five times. He's extremely polite, nice, and a music geek like nobody you've ever talked to in your goddamn life. At the end of our last conversation, he spent like a half hour asking me about early '70s Miles.
― unperson, Sunday, 24 February 2008 23:42 (sixteen years ago) link
This made me laugh a lot.
― unperson, Thursday, 10 April 2008 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link
nice
― am0n, Thursday, 10 April 2008 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link
That's awesome.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 10 April 2008 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Classic
― Bill Magill, Thursday, 10 April 2008 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link
sweet how ginn ends end right where he started, hair-wise
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 10 April 2008 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link
A+++
― latebloomer, Thursday, 10 April 2008 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link
bookmarked thread
― mkcaine, Thursday, 10 April 2008 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Spot looks great.
― ian, Thursday, 10 April 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Spot and Pettibon still look exactly like they did 30+ yrs ago!
― Mike Dixn, Friday, 11 April 2008 13:54 (fifteen years ago) link
These were posted on a thread i made on another board so may as well post them here http://www.brianwalsby.com/comics/blackflagandme.jpg
― Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.brianwalsby.com/comics/life-after-black-flag-1.jpg
― Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.brianwalsby.com/comics/life-after-black-flag-two.jpg
unaccustomed as i am to self-promotion, and hoping this doesn't break ilx rules at all, can i slip a tiny plug in here for my Black Flag biography, Spray Paint The Walls, about to be released by Omnibus? you can read an extract at the Quietus here - http://thequietus.com/articles/03049-an-extract-from-stevie-chick-s-spray-paint-the-walls-the-story-of-black-flag - if yr interested...
― like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 11:28 (fourteen years ago) link
nice, stevie! i would read this book.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 12:16 (fourteen years ago) link
thanks scott!
― like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 13:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Hehe very cool to see this come to fruition after all the legwork you put in to getting the interviews!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 13:33 (fourteen years ago) link
i know, it feels like YEARS since we visited you in the OC...
― like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Time to come back!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link
― scott seward, Tuesday, November 3, 2009 7:16 AM
― luol deng (am0n), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link
looking forward to this!
I don't think there's any band that's more entertaining to read about than black flag
the flag stuff from that rollins biog is a hoot
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link
lol, I grew up in Manhattan Beach, so this was great to read. I was about 6 months old when this concert took place, so I missed it sadly. This was a legendary story, though. Both Morris and Ginn went to my high school (as did most of the Descendants, I believe). I think there's like a great unwritten screenplay about late 70s punk/beach town culture clashes. Maybe I need to write it. Anyway -- I will read this book! Black Flag is totally fun to read about.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 23:29 (fourteen years ago) link
lol polliwog park
― nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link
they used to have this amazing play structure called "The Sunken Galleon" there. oh man, it was so dangerous. can't believe I didn't die on that thing.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 23:41 (fourteen years ago) link
stevie i am going to buy and read yr book, exciting!
tyler have you read "enter naomi" by joe carducci? there's some good stuff in there in the vein of what you're talking about
― my gangsta ain't NEVER been on trial (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link
there is stuff about the sunken galleon in Carducci's book?! kidding -- i haven't read it but I should. i talked to Ginn once for my high school newspaper ... it didn't go very well!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Dude, Stevie, that extract is amazing. You can feel the dichotomies writhing as they are forced to stare each other in the face, then you notice that one face is full of blood.
I will buy the hell out of this book.
― Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 23:53 (fourteen years ago) link
thank you all for the kind words and promises of purchase, dudes - and tyler, i second matt's recommendation of 'enter naomi', which is a really great personal take on that whole era (buy my book 1st tho!). was a great thrill to visit polliwog while researching the book, and soak up the pleasant valley sunday vibe that the Flag doubtless shattered that afternoon...
― like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 08:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Great stuff Stevie, I'm in. When does it come out in the UK?
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 09:43 (fourteen years ago) link
should be out now, but i think there have been slight delays - its still a pre-order on amazon... i have yet to see a copy!
― like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 09:44 (fourteen years ago) link
it is in stock on amazon! also, i'll be doing a reading/q&a at filthy mcnasty's on tuesday november 10th, as part of the Talking Music Revolutions Volume Four: The Metal Years event, alongside such awesome writers as Carol Clerk, John Robb, Joel McIver, Tommy Udo and Suzanne Moore, so come along if yr in London that night.
thus endeth my plugging...
― like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Thursday, 5 November 2009 09:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Suzanne Moore
wait what
― War On The Terrances (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 5 November 2009 10:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I am totally going to buy this book btw
yeah i'm hoping its *the suzanna moore (its not my do so i don't know fo' sho). also i was just informed joel has a parents evening that night and now can't make it, but it'll still be cool!
― like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Thursday, 5 November 2009 10:23 (fourteen years ago) link
suzanne
This is LONG overdue and I'm giddily excited about this. Will also 'buy the hell' out of this book.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 5 November 2009 12:13 (fourteen years ago) link
hey stevie just wanted to let you know that on another board i go to there was a thread about your book that i didn't start! the buzz is building :)
― my gangsta ain't NEVER been on trial (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 5 November 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
haha LINK PLS MATT!!!
― like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Thursday, 5 November 2009 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link
google is on to you
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/spray_paint_the_walls.gif
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 5 November 2009 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link
thumbs up from carducci!!
1 guessed/predicted in Rock and the Pop Narcotic that regarding Black Flag there was never enough sales for the real publishing industry to ever write a check to get to the bottom of the band's story. Back in the late 1980s when I wrote R&TPN only Faber & Faber was even issuing original music titles, and indeed they were the only publisher to take a look at my manuscript. But the 80s/90s roll-out of Tower Books, Barnes & Noble, and Borders did spur a short golden age of the music section in book stores. That's over now. But Omnibus in the UK, which once had the only book on Black Sabbath in print, now issues the first comprehensive book about Black Flag, first in the UK, soon here. Spray Paint the Walls is very well reported and assembled by Brit music writer Stevie Chick, author of the better of the recent Sonic Youth books. Neither Greg Ginn nor Henry Rollins sat for interviews but their voices are included from earlier interviews, and more importantly Chuck Dukowski spoke to Chick - a first I believe. The story, laid out from the band's earliest practices in 1976 to its end ten years later, makes a far more dramatic book than the usual shelf-fillers with their stretch to make the empty stories of various chart-toppers sound exciting and crucial and against the odds. I read a rough draft; I'm sure most of the minor Anglocentric miscomprehensions of timelines, causalities and geography are still in it but the book is powerful because it does the story justice. And those miscomprehensions are shared by most American music writers as well so what the hell...
― The looming shadow of the big baller/shot caller (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link
http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/kindle/merch/global/kindle-turing-widget-photo_020509._V251249236_.jpg Tell the Publisher!I’d like to read this book on Kindle
― luol deng (am0n), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Finished the book this morning, have to say Stevie, nice work indeed, really, really enjoyed it, so much great info.
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link
aw thanks mares nest... really glad you enjoyed it.
― I don't think this is funny..Much Clown Love Ya'll! (stevie), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link
still looking forward to reading this -- soon! in the meantime, i tracked down a recording of that Polliwog Park show! http://ow.ly/Mv0M Neat ....
― tylerw, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link
that show is nuts... the bootleg is essential, perhaps more for the banter between the roadies and the guy who put the show on than the music, but 'wasted' SLAYS
― I don't think this is funny..Much Clown Love Ya'll! (stevie), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Yep, made me go back and dig out the albums, was rooting around in the loft yesterday looking for James Parker's book, Planet Joe and Get In The Van.
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.doobybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/justin-bieber-black-flag.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 9 July 2010 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link
http://grab.by/grabs/78550b4ceb4e799f5aa4fc25ad6989c3.png
― the itsytitchyschneider (s1ocki), Thursday, 5 August 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link
that Bieber jpeg causes my rage to hit 28 Days Later levels
― San Te, Thursday, 5 August 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link
if u want one so bad just buy one
― the itsytitchyschneider (s1ocki), Thursday, 5 August 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link
*grabs a lead pipe*
― San Te, Thursday, 5 August 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link
lol, it's the first thing i've ever liked about JB
― a CRASBO is a "criminally related" ASBO (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 August 2010 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link
"performer and world travelernascent Burroughs Henry Rollins has a new favorite portable sound system"
― a CRASBO is a "criminally related" ASBO (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 August 2010 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link
A really good DVD of The Minutemen & Black Flag went up on D!m3ad0z3n a couple of days ago, it's from San Francisco '81 (Dez era) and it's pretty good quality.
― disastrous sixth series (MaresNest), Thursday, 5 August 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Don't know if any of you guys saw anything about this but there was a reunion of sorts here in Vancouver a few weeks ago to celebrate local resident Chavo Pederast's 50th birthday. Greg Ginn showed up and they played some numbers. Here's an interview with Greg Ginn being his usual self. Anyway, Spray Paint The Walls is briefly discussed. Of course Greg hasn't heard of it and tries his hardest to appear disinterested. Was there ever anyone more paranoid about being pigeonholed? There's some clips from the show too.
Greg interview:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j3gg7XUE4s
Interview with Ron too:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMHbNOEafsY&feature=related
― everything, Friday, 24 September 2010 03:49 (thirteen years ago) link
RADDDDDD!
CHAVO and GREG sound so great (esp when he remembers the lyrics :/ ) and that is a DOPPPPPE t-shirt CP's rockin.
― Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Friday, 24 September 2010 04:15 (thirteen years ago) link
whoah
― pay to the order of Iron Balls McGinty, $1 and NINE CENTS (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 September 2010 04:50 (thirteen years ago) link
almost shit myself when nardwuar handed greg the book. i spent MONTHS of my life emailing and calling greg, trying to secure an interview, or at the very least to let him know i was working on the book, and in good faith, but i got no closer to contact with the man than chatting with his assistant. he knew it exists.
<3 ron reyes. that footage is awesome...
― the cusses of 2 live crew (stevie), Friday, 24 September 2010 07:03 (thirteen years ago) link
in greg's defense, there is the distinct possibility that he may have been high on pot
― del griffith, Friday, 24 September 2010 07:16 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, and i totally respect that! i may have been high when i was calling/emailing!
― the cusses of 2 live crew (stevie), Friday, 24 September 2010 07:17 (thirteen years ago) link
and in fairness all he said was that he hadn't seen the book. he comes across pretty well in my book, and not overly defensive.
― charlie h, Friday, 24 September 2010 07:25 (thirteen years ago) link
oh definitely, he seemed fine.
― the cusses of 2 live crew (stevie), Friday, 24 September 2010 08:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Your book and Beefheart's Through The Eyes of Magic combined were both the kind of books I'd make excuses to go and read throughout my busy day. "Hey there's a lightbulb out in the bathroom, I'm going in to fix it." Then I'd sit and feverishly devour these books. I think I read yours in three sittings. Not trying to blow smoke, but Spray Paint the Walls is really more than any Flag fan could have wanted. Thanks for writing it.
I actually put in to do My War for the 33 1/3 series, got a "good idea!" response email, but never followed up. I think your book sorta nullifies that 'good idea,' anyway.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 24 September 2010 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link
reyes seems like a bro of the highest caliber
― my balls and my nerds (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link
wow, thanks! i sweat blood on this book, and its by no means perfect, so to see you write that means a lot. and i think there's definitely more to be written abt the flag, esp on My War. i'd read your book in a flash.
xp
― the cusses of 2 live crew (stevie), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link
ron's really great. i think my interview with him for the book was the first he'd given in years - i didn't think i had a chance in hell of speaking to him, and then joe nolte got in touch and said "i have a friend you might want to speak to for your book, if you're interested?" he's really sweet, really honest, really humble.
― the cusses of 2 live crew (stevie), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh Nardwuar, never change.
― (¬_¬) (Nicole), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link
"Reality 86'd" A film by David Markey
http://vimeo.com/23499919
"Reality 86'd" A film by David Markey (c) 1991 We Got Power Films. (TRT 01:01:51) A road documentary shot from the inside of the last Black Flag tour ever (the 1986 "In My Head" US tour.) Greg Ginn along with Henry Rollins, Cel Revulta, and Anthony Martinez comprise the final line up of the band. Featuring behind the scenes proceedings and live performances from Black Flag, Painted Willie, and Gone (Ginn's side project, then featuring Sim Cain and Andrew Weiss (later of the Rollins Band) . Filmmaker / musician David Markey was along for the entire trip as the drummer / singer for Painted Willie (with Phil Newman & Vic Makauskas), documenting the six month tour as it happened. Also features roadie Joe ("Planet Joe") Cole, soundmen Davo Claasen and Dave "Ratman" Levine, and the tour manager who kept it all together, Mitch Bury. A crucial turning point in American underground rock. The end of the line for a trail blazing American band.
― am0n, Thursday, 12 May 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
bump
― am0n, Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
awesome! thanks for posting.
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
thanks man
how long before it gets yanked or does ginn not care anymore
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
not sure ginn knows about the internet
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
his army of cat soldiers will inform him
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
lol painted willie is the worst band
― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
they perfect that vibe of when you are in a band and you start dicking around jamming some riff just for kicks but you'd never actually like play like that for real people
― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
and then they put out records and went on tour
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
at least they didn't waste a good band name on it
― some dude, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
painted willie is the source of a weird in-joke with some of my high school friends. whenever we'd be in van nuys (which was strangely often) we'd shout "LIVE FROM VAN NUYS!" i'm not even sure how we knew this phrase, i've never heard the ep. but it was def a reference to it.
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
true story about painted willie.
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
I almost bought that record so many times and now I'm real curious about what it sounds like
maybe age has transformed it into some unheralded classic
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
If you need some background.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
i must've just seen it in record stores a lot in the early 90s, and thought that "Live From Van Nuys" was a great name for a record. kind of doubt it's a classic but ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8h5xuNVuVE
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
was just about to post that!
man ppl were really jamming out to painted willie
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
guy wearing his own band's shirt NAGL
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
maybe if like you'd never heard...like...any hard rock band ever or something they would be good?
― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
lol, yeah, maybe not an unheralded classic. something impressively unspectacular about them though. like kind of archetypal mid-80s socal garage band.
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
maybe after you've heard every hard rock band ever, and your great all-knowing mind tires, maybe that's when you turn to painted willie
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
we should do a poll for worst second wave SST band, DC3, painted willie, tom troccoli's dog, october faction, etc
painted willie might win and that would be something
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
maybe ginn made them keep all the weed in the painted willie van?
― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
Painted Willie then embarked on a six-month national tour opening for Gone and Black Flag in 1986, which would be Black Flag's last tour. The band recorded and released the Live from Van Nuys EP during that tour live EP during the tour titled simply Live From Van Nuys. Dave filmed eight years of footage for an eventual documentary of the tour that would be called Reality 86'd but Ginn didn't want it to be released. Black Flag singer Henry Rollins tried to have it released in 1994 through a distribution deal he struck with Time Warner but Ginn still refused.[3][5]
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
8 years of footage! I had no idea 1986 lasted that long
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
ginn's weed made things seem crazy long back then.
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
there's a good band name: Ginn's Weed
don't overlook how terrible gone sounds in that video, made my ears pinch my nose and say "p.u."
― am0n, Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nnxeaxhfJ5w/TYfh1RO66eI/AAAAAAAAFTI/5yjZJJzNGgM/s400/no-age.jpgdownloaded this a month or so ago thinking it'd be so rad, but it is kind of terrible! see for yourself: http://luckypsychichut.blogspot.com/2011/03/no-age-compilation-of-sst-instrumental.html
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
"this is awful. you've got to try it"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
totally shitty. yr gonna love it.
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
the food is terrible, and such small portions
― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
The Food Is Terrible, and Such Small Portions: The Best of Painted Willie
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
This milk's gone sour, smell it.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
wnkiw these people/bands
(lol @ the punk rock drum circle though)
― adult music person (Jordan), Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
Sorry, ""Reality 86'd" A film by David Markey" was deleted at 1:49:29 Mon May 23, 2011. Vimeo has removed or disabled access to the following material as a result of a third-party notification by Greg Ginn claiming that this material is infringing: "Reality 86'd" A film by David Markey. We have no more information about it on our mainframe or elsewhere.
― am0n, Monday, 23 May 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, May 12, 2011 1:49 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark
2 weeks apparently
― oh! me so brodie (Edward III), Monday, 23 May 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
I just read an interview with markey, like, last week about this, c/r where it was
― oh! me so brodie (Edward III), Monday, 23 May 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
oh here it is
http://www.viceland.com/blogs/en/2011/05/20/rettsounds-reality-86d/
― oh! me so brodie (Edward III), Monday, 23 May 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
that ibanez he played during that period sounded horrible
― am0n, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
Forgive me if this has been posted elsewhere, nothing came up on search.
Black Face - Dukowski teams up with Eugene Robinson to play some unreleased Chuck-written BF material and choice Flag tunes, Ginn nearly involved at one point, I'm excited!
http://www.viceland.com/music/2011/08/chuck-dukowski-from-black-flag-has-a-new-band-with-eugene-robinson/
― solfege made me schizophrenic (MaresNest), Friday, 5 August 2011 10:53 (twelve years ago) link
Eugene posted this on the Supersonic FB page yesterday. I'm hoping there's a reason why.
― 50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Saturday, 6 August 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
So Kira won an oscar for sound mixing Mad Max last night. I had no idea:
http://www.stereogum.com/1862449/former-black-flag-bassist-wins-an-oscar-for-mad-max-fury-road/news/?utm_source=sc-fb&utm_medium=ref&utm_campaign
― Darin, Tuesday, 1 March 2016 00:02 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/hcjnZrV.jpg
― calstars, Friday, 8 April 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link
I just saw that picture being used in an ad for Vans shoes the other day. Maybe this is also part of that campaign.
― JRN, Friday, 8 April 2016 23:02 (seven years ago) link
of course it is
― Οὖτις, Friday, 8 April 2016 23:06 (seven years ago) link
Just performing my dirty duty as a consumer
― calstars, Friday, 8 April 2016 23:42 (seven years ago) link
anyway reason i was searching for rollins is bc i was wondering if anyone has more info on this
According to Rolling Stone magazine, after Cole's death, hundreds of hours of interviews Cole had taped with "flamboyant street characters" in Venice Beach were edited into an hour of "primo footage" that the magazine described as "an unflinching look at the American dream gone amok."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Joe_Cole
rly interested in listening to those interviews by joe cole but cldnt find anything on the web
― infinity (∞), Saturday, 30 December 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link
search 'god's movie'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhGxVfh9lag
― how's life, Saturday, 30 December 2017 22:13 (six years ago) link
from the vid description
A few segments from Joe Cole's "God's Movie", an unfinished documentary series documenting the street people of Venice Beach. This was shot in 1990 by Joe and myself, and I help out with the some of the interviews. This was originally released in a longer form as "God's Movie Volume 1" on VHS by Henry Rollins' 2-13-61, and has been long out of print. I am more than glad to share a few moments of this work with you here. Joe was shot and killed in a robbery a little more than a year after this. I miss him to this day and it is great to hear his voice here. If you like this I suggest searching for "How Much Longer" posted on Google Video, a video documentary I did with Joe all about the Desert Storm Victory Parade in Hollywood, 1991.
― how's life, Saturday, 30 December 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link
Amazing anecdote on the newest Henry & Heidi podcast about Hank being pressed into service by Sharon Osbourne at the famous Sabbath reunion gigs.
She asked him to help with an EPK and interview people backstage, so he goes over to interview Brian May and after they film the segment May says to him "by the way, I just want you to know, Freddie loved Black Flag"!!!!
https://youtu.be/G1hx4Ajnhiw?t=42m4s
― MaresNest, Monday, 21 January 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link
Bullshit
― everything, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 01:16 (five years ago) link
I see "Black Flag" is playing in Baltimore in August. Is this Greg Ginn and 3 to 4 others? There's a mention of "First 4 years" 1983 comp that included pre-Henry stuff , on the Ottobar website. Will that be the musical focus?
― curmudgeon, Friday, 8 March 2024 17:58 (two weeks ago) link
https://x.com/hearinladotcom/status/1746282064192884916?s=46&t=u2ZSlsY3trRV36IPP6jNDQ
Black Flag’s 2024 lineup consists of founding guitarist Greg Ginn, singer Mike Vallely, who first appeared with the band as a guest in 2003 and became the band’s fifth vocalist in 2014,
and a rhythm section of Harley Duggan and Charles Wiley (both from Seattle band DARKHORSE RISING).
― curmudgeon, Friday, 8 March 2024 18:03 (two weeks ago) link
That would be a nice subtle bit of graffiti if someone added quotation marks on the posters for that show.
― birdistheword, Friday, 8 March 2024 19:04 (two weeks ago) link
I've seen some youtube footage of recent Black Flag, and I would steer pretty clear of that tbh
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 8 March 2024 19:23 (two weeks ago) link
Gonna skip it.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 8 March 2024 20:21 (two weeks ago) link
EVERYONE SHOULD LSITEN TO RAY PETTIBONE'S NEW BAND ITS SO GOOD
https://surdrone.bandcamp.com/album/full-length-2
― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 8 March 2024 21:07 (two weeks ago) link
sitting at the bar at a restaurant near my neighborhood and it’s crowded on a monday. realize the music venue across the street has the Black Flag (“black flag”?) show in an hour and, outside of two tables of people obviously going to it, I am trying to puzzle out the rest of the people in hereare the dudes in their 50s waiting around in the entryway here for the band? is there another event nearby? a mystery
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 00:09 (one week ago) link