Kraftwerk

i'm not sure about neu! playing on the early stuff - i'm thinking that they might've done some stuff on the first album, but i'm fairly sure the second is just ralf and florian. there is definitely guitar on kraftwerk 2, though, so maybe i've got that backwards. there are a couple of bootlegs floating around and one of them features the kraftwerk/neu lineup in rough fidelity (including a track from the pre-kraftwerk organisation lineup, which you can actually see on the "krautrock" video tape that's floating around).

(I have good sounding copies of these albums on CD that I bought in a store, not even knowing they were officially unavailable.)

the line up on the first one is ralf hutter, florian schnider, andreas hohmann, and klaus dinger (neu!)

obviously "Ralf and Florian" is just ralf and florian.

radioactivity is great, i didnt know people didnt like that one

as for the early things, there's an awfull lot of flute on them which may sway you one way or another. all of these hippy bands just LOVED a flute. it's rampant on the first Kluster album too.

not can, but tangerine dream's "electronic meditation" would probably be a fairish comparison, in the freer parts. "ruckzuck" is definitely great - it was actually used as the theme for a pop-science for kids program here in the US ("newton's apple") and has a bouncy little groove. if you like neu! and "electronic meditation," yes, you need to hear the first two kraftwerks.

Exactly. I'm glad someone else figured out how to say this (although I do like some floaty flute).

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Replace "[" and "]" with ""

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7813200.stm

:(

The boy Schnieder done good but he has to hang up his boots sometime

I've been disappointed by how accessible they've been over the past few years. Maybe this will restore a little mystery.

But Florian was the weirdo mystery element in the group

And now he's not even in it! It's like SUPER MYSTERIOUS!

This at the bottom of the BBC page...

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45301000/jpg/_45301645_cones2_126.jpg
Cones hotline
The lasting legacy of John Major's much ridiculed plan

what would Florian do?

Hopefully jam with Michael Rother and Jaki L., but probably not. :(

Every time I play the opening minute or two of "Europe Endless" I'm kinda convinced there's no better start to a song -- an album, ANYTHING -- out there. It's such a perfectly realized and precise arrangement, and *then* the beats arrive.

co-sign!

Europa Endlos should be the anthem of the EU.

Every time I play the opening minute or two of "Europe Endless" I'm kinda convinced there's no better start to a song -- an album, ANYTHING -- out there. It's such a perfectly realized and precise arrangement, and *then* the beats arrive.

For me, that moment is the keyboard interlude the third time or so it's repeated. For one, I just love the sound of the saw wave and the little modulation accents Ralf plays. But on that iteration, Ralf knocks it up a register — and it just takes off. Easily my favorite Kraftwerk moment, period.

Folks have probably already seen this, but just in case:

http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3212&Itemid=26

Remasters of Autobahn, Radio-Activity, Trans Europe Express), The Man Machine, Computer World, Techno Pop, The Mix, and Tour De France. Available individually or as a box set, in which case they come in those horrible little "mini LP sleeve" packages people seem to like for some reason.

On October 5 Kraftwerk will release 12345678: The Catalogue, a CD box set collecting eight of their classic studio albums. Newly remastered versions of the albums will also be available individually on CD, vinyl and download.

- 8 x individual CDs presented in special slipcases featuring newly expanded artwork, including many previously unseen images all of which have been reproduced to the highest technical standards.

- CD Box Set containing 8 x CDs in ‘mini-vinyl’ card wallet packaging, plus individual large format booklets.

- 8 x individual heavyweight vinyl LPs with large format booklets.

- Digital downloads.

Any reason to buy these for those of us who own all the albums on CD already? Sounds like extra packaging but nothing in the way of new/unreleased music... not really into those types of reissues.

Remastered sound?

Oh my god, I'm listening to the original '83 version of "Tour de France" right now and am FLIPPING OUT

for the first time

Remastered sound?

The remastering will be the selling point for me. The CDs that we've been listening to for the last twenty years leave a lot to be desired.

will "Techno Pop" be mythical lost album or just "Electric Cafe" with original title?

wikipedia says it's just electric cafe with the original title

ralf and florian is nice, summery, kind of hawaiian

-- this explains why i like that lp so much!

Techno Pop was basically a failed album that had the best parts remixed into Electric Cafe. I doubt it will ever seen the light of day and I am not too upset about it. It would be neat to hear out of curiosity, but I doubt they have eight Tour de France style joints sitting in the can waiting to be heard.

That being said, I can only imagine what they have in their archives. I would love to hear the demos for songs that didn't make the cut for their studio albums. They will never be heard while Hutter is alive, but it will be interesting to see how his estate handles the music.

It will also be interesting to see who is credited on the box set. I wonder if Schneider will have his name removed like Bartos and Flur.

.. and Conny Plank...

1983 demo version of 'Techno Pop' is utterly different than album version, almost a 70's retrench with the Orchestron vocal choir playing the chord sequence, I like it better than the album version

& there were three new tunes on the 98 tour than remain unreleased, I can see why but I'd still love a studio version of the one that sounds like their take on Basic Channel

word! is that demo vers floating around somewhere reachable?
the live versions I've heard of the "Techno Pop" stuff is pretty great ... hard-hitting, muscular stuff

usual place, + demo version of 'techno pop' widely available on 'ultra rare trax volume 2' comp, most widely available bootleg of 97/98 tour is 'Computer Sinfonien ZKM'

correction, one word "Computersinfonien"

but "Tribal Gathering" and "Live at the Fillmore" boots pretty good too

ace, thanks!

"but "Tribal Gathering" and "Live at the Fillmore" boots pretty good too"

for a second i'm thinking i clicked on the live dead thread by mistake...

yeah I mean "Fillmore" is a better, more lush recording that captures more of the vibe of the night, but at "Tribal" Ralf was just so on

The only Kraftwerk recordings I have are 70's era, including the one with Rother + Dinger, and this one from Leverkusen with a 40 minute Autobahn

you know where leonardo is? I've been looking for Leverkusen forever, I'll put up 1975 Brighton if you post that one

to go back to "Tribal" it was like Ralf had all this energy that you could literally see rising out of his hands, and it wasn't the acid because I asked Mary and she saw the same tendrils

It's in flac or shn; what's the best way to send something of that size?

i quite liked the three late 90s demos esp. the Tribal '97 one. actually 'Tango' was a bit shit but they kept doing that live for a while unlike the other two.

oh jeez, probably zipping the flac files would get them under sendspace-able 300 MB

I know this is bad form trading right out here on the street but seriously if they sold this shit legit we wouldn't be in the sorry state we are right now man

Oh it's fine, I got it all on dime/dc++ anyway. It's not like it's copyrighted or anything.

Relistening to this Autobahn for the first time in like 6 years. Sound quality's kind of shit, but performance is simply transcendent. If this isn't A++++ I don't know what is; the motorik breakdown alone is like 10 minutes. Will post soon.

The whole thing's 980 megs though; I think I'll just V0 this or something.

fine with mp3's

Kraftwerk POX
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jfeegk

the other non-album Kraftwerk single I'm looking for, the pre-Conny Plank 7" version of “Kohoutek – Kometenmelodie” - http://www.headheritage.com/unsung/thebookofseth/1743

have heard side 1, still haven't heard side 2

ha ha until this very second, oh blogspot.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/5rsc6e

Techno Pop version of 'Sex Object'

http://r*pidshare.com/files/266436158/kwtp.zip.html

ha ha until this very second, oh blogspot.

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where?

If you google kohoutek and kraftwerk it's one of the first results

Yeah, found one. Quite recently, I did that, got nowt...

chemicalbeats.blogspot.com usually has some good stuff.

http://chemicalbeats.blogspot.com/2008/11/kraftwerk-kohoutek-kometenmelodie.html

stuff like that

Leverkusen is hilarious, it's rare to hear that many technical problems / mistakes, it's enjoyable. and that version of Autobahn is hands down beautiful.

for the Brighton show they'd just bought the Orchestron, so it's a fun chance to hear them use those TEE Strings / Radioactivity Choir samples on almost every single song

not a single one of the 70's shows I don't want to hear at least once: http://www.valand.gu.se/dm/students/andreas/kw_skivor/bootlegs.html

They never did perform "Europe Endless"/"Endless Endless"/"Franz Schubert" live did they? I would killlll to hear one...

you should track down the london roundhouse gig from 1976, they do "europe endless" and a version of "trans europe express" that sounds like a work in progress, quite different from the released version

I'd love to hear that

also, above, when saying 'Live at the Fillmore' I in fact meant '19980607 - Live at the Warfield, SF'

I know this is retarded and I love Kraftwerk but seeing them live this year made me sad. Maybe they're too old for this sort of thing now. :(

listening back (cough cough) "europe endless" is not quite there either, the rhythm is different & faster, extra vocal bits etc. its quite odd hearing songs you know inside out at an earlier stage.

seeing them live this year made me sad.

I saw them last year and it was AMAZING (had never seen Florian-including lineup though)

I love Kraftwerk but seeing them live this year made me sad

Yeah, I skipped the early 00s UK dates because I thought I would prefer to imagine how they'd have been at the time of releasing their best music rather than see them now, but inspired by last-tour-ever rumours I was considering seeing them next month in Helsinki...

(Mainly I just noticed I have some leave left and thought that Helsinki would be fun and a music festival in Helsinki would be extra fun and a music festival with Kraftwerk headlining would be, uh, extra extra fun.)

Jori Hulkkonen's Acid Symphony is opening for Kraftwerk in Helsinki. You should go. I've seen clips of their performance and it's really unique and fun. Then you could stick around and see 4 old dudes stand behind laptops with cool visuals projected behind them.

Then you could stick around and see 4 old dudes stand behind laptops with cool visuals projected behind them.
Bwahahaha. QFT.

the whole second half of that Leverkusen gig is top notch. the version of Kristallo is intense, and what in the world is that Irish jig that Ralf moogs into for the last ten minutes of the show? it's closer to Roedelius than anything they ever came close to putting on a record, even the keyboard noodling on 'Ralf and Florian' is restrained compared to that. Cluster and Kraftwerk really were on parallel tracks in 1974... thanks for posting SD.

I would love to hear the rest of that Roundhouse gig, not to beg for further generosity. Here's 'Kraftwerk !/2', which was a CDR of all their 70/71 WDR TV appearances put out by the same Seidr label that released 'K4' -- it should have gotten the same amount of attention, but it's clever title is unfortunately completely googleproof

Oops, the Finland date is actually, uh, tonight. Guess I'm not going then!

Thanks for all the music links, much appreciated.

sorry milton, got sidetracked. full roundhouse

T/F: this is the best thread on ILM

T. Maybe.

Thanks Milton, for that !/2 thing, I've never been able to locate it. Organisation's Ruckzuck is quite hilarious. Bongo's?
Thansk Stevie for the Leverkusen gig. German girls making fun of fahr'n fahr'n fahr'n :-D

Local recordshop has a few Kraftwerk boots on vinyl. Don't know them by heart but a here's a few:
Somewhere in Europe (Side a is Paris, b is Utrecht iirc)
Showroom Dummies (double LP, not sure about the title, it's a UK gig from 1975)
an LP with WDR recordings (amongst which both Kometenmelodies and Autobahn)
a double LP with 1975 US recordings.
and probably two more I forgot

Tips as to what's good? Should probably get them all, right? ;-)

willem et al have you all heard the Kraftneu! recordings? There's the legendary K4 bootleg, and apparently there's another one from St. Ingbert, '71

I've got the K4 and love it, don't know the St. Ingbert boot.

Just found it on my hard drve; kinda sounds like shit and is cut off at the end.

Great stuff, guys

Somewhere in Europe (Side a is Paris, b is Utrecht iirc)

the 20 minutes from Olympia, Paris, 19760228 are a beautiful radio concert w/ good sound grade A if you like 'Ralf and Florian'. the Utrecht side is 6 songs from 1981, all great but leaves out too many of the best things from the 1981 tour (I recommend '19810907 - Virtu ex Machina (Tokyo)' is a good soundboard recording, '19810703 - Live at the Hammersmith Odeon, London' is a room recording but has an incredible 8-bit toy solo in 'Pocket Calculator', and the 'It's More Fun To Compute' encore at 150 bpm = yes

Showroom Dummies (double LP, not sure about the title, it's a UK gig from 1975)

want to hear this

an LP with WDR recordings (amongst which both Kometenmelodies and Autobahn)

this is one of the first ones that made it to CD as 'Super Golden Radio Shows'. pretty low fidelity for a radio gig. hearing this actually put me off the trail of hunting down 70's live kraftwerk for a long time, and it's definitely not as good as the semi-legit Concert Classics which anyone still reading this almost certainly wants

a double LP with 1975 US recordings.

there are so many I haven't heard. I have an LP of them playing Kentucky that's very fuzzy, but has a crazy four on the floor kickdrum for 'Tanzmusik' that shows just how different they played the set night to night

I'd love to hear the St. Ingert, even though all reports put it at barely listenable

Will work on upping the Ingbert tonight. Milton, do you have anything good from 90/91ish when they performed "Tour de France" or the 97/98 shows with the "new songs"?

still haven't heard any 90/91 shows, which would be interesting to hear because it's the one post-digital but pre-laptop tour

the ZKM concert was the only one where they played all three of the new songs: http://sickness-abounds.blogspot.com/2008/08/kraftwerk-robotronik-bermensch.html

MP what's your favorite live recording of "Numbers"? And why?

the 97/98 digital retool of 'Numbers', the update gave it just enough of a twist that it was almost overwhelming as an opening number, and my favorite recording is the one at the Warfield because I remember many of the exact screams

Thanks for your elaborate answer, Milton.
I'm going on a two week trip tomorrow but I'll definitely check out a couple of the boots when I return

Techno Pop version of 'Sex Object'

http://r*pidshare.com/files/266436158/kwtp.zip.html

Only ten downloads allowed - repost anyone?

Techno Pop version of 'Sex Object'

http://www.sendspace.com/file/updyx0 :)

From what I gather from "Tour de France" and this version of "Sex Object", Techno Pop is essentially a lost electro album. Which severely breaks my heart.

Thanks claws for the reup. I always forget about RS limits.

Really enjoying these bootlegs!

From what I remember, Techno Pop had to be totally scrapped because it was practically in the can when MIDI came out and changed everything. I think they thought that it would sound horribly dated if they released it as-is, and that MIDI would change their entire touring setup as well.

I would imagine generally by the early eighties that most Kling Klang studio time was spent figuring out what the latest tech was, only to have something else come out which they then had to get to grips with, etc etc. The learning and experimentation curve probably precluded making any music once the pace of technology increased to a certain point and they had some measure of financial success. Ralf was quoted as saying that Florian spent most of the last couple decades working on 'speech synthesis, things like that'.

thanks stevie!

Is there an MSRP for The Catalogue yet? This is the first/only box set in my entire life I'm fully willing to buy (except the In Rainbows discbox which was a ridiculous spur-of-the-moment impulse buy, not that I regret it...)

Will people be buying

The Catalogue: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Catalogue-Kraftwerk/dp/B002LCOQTG/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1251236190&sr=8-16

or

Der Katalog

http://www.amazon.de/German-Box-Set-Kraftwerk/dp/B002LYC29A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1251236036&sr=1-2

?

does anyone else feel like no including the first three albums is a bit of a sham? when i had to write a news story about this for xlr8r, i exclaimed aloud, "NO Ralf und Florian? NO credibility" and one of my editors chuckled a bit.

Why the hell is this coming out on Mute in the UK? I know it's part of EMI now but all Kraftwerk's albums have been released on EMI and this box set should be no different. I mean, I like Mute and all, but they have had nothing to do with Kraftwerk in the past.

maybe Kraftwerk the hell wanted a dedicated staff who would actually care the hell about the project and do their best to work it the hell to retail and press

idthk

lool

maybe Kraftwerk the hell wanted a dedicated staff who would actually care the hell about the project and do their best to work it the hell to retail and press

um, yeah?

like, of course?

There are good and bad people working in every record company. Just because a label has a cachet of cool is no guarantee that they will care more about a project or be able to work it any better than a major label.

True, but I get the impression Mute are better than most in the 'cool' stakes. See their handling of the Can back catalogue for comparison.

I mean 'better than most 'cool' labels in their handling of projects...

(also, the 'parent company' being EMI, who I wouldn't trust to run a jumble sale right now...)

http://cover.mojo4music.com/uploads/Images/399x567/633894832180512921.Jpeg

What's the exclusive track?

the 2009 digital remaster of 'the robots'

cool, thx!

want it ripped stan?

yes please!

i'll try sending via gmail

Thx! If it doesn't work I'll hear it soon enough (I hope), I've preordered the box set.

attachment failed. I'll try elsewhere

Thanks! Don't put too much effort into this, I'll probably survive not hearing it for a couple of days more :-)

Sounds GREAT! But this is the single version, does this mean there's going to be bonus tracks on the albums? (at least, I don't have this one yet - the one on the Man Machine is much slower and the one on The Mix is completely different)

Oh wait, it's an edit from the The Mix version. nevermind. Great remaster, though. Yay!

http://sharebee.com/fd471106

= 8 seconds from The Robots @ 320 kbps from The Mix (2004 promo remaster leak)
followed by the same 8 seconds from the 2009 remaster.

oh well looks like i wont be buying it this month. as a beatles fan i could do with saving some money. cheers mojo!!

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From the MOJO interview, when asked about the first 3 albums not being part of The Catalogue:

"They are coming. We are working on them with more drawings, more paintings, more photographs. We are working on the old tapes, they are very dusty".

Sounds GREAT! But this is the single version, does this mean there's going to be bonus tracks on the albums? (at least, I don't have this one yet - the one on the Man Machine is much slower and the one on The Mix is completely different)

The one change that I know of is 'House Phone' is added to the Techno Pop tracklisting.

For European people, all the remasters (with really terrible covers) are now on Spotify.

seen them in shops. very tempting but gonna wait for Der Katalog

Well, I like the new covers.

The "Autobahn" one had loads of "official" covers...

holy shit the 1973 single version of "Kometenmelodie" is absolutely gorgeous. I guess I need to get into early Kraftwerk? Or is this single atypical?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00pzf3j

The Man Machine: The Story of Kraftwerk
Saturday (2010-01-16), 22:00 on BBC Radio 2

Jarvis Cocker presents the story of a group of musicians who've influenced artists and movements as diverse as David Bowie, Coldplay, hip hop and the New Romantics.

The programme features a rare interview with Kraftwerk founding member and the only remaining original, Ralph Hutter. It also examines the part played in the "Krautrock" movement by other German electronic music exponents of the 70s, such as Neu! and Tangerine Dream.

Blimey, since Florian left, Ralf's been all "Hello Everybody!"

I don't like it when people bang on about such-and-such a band's "influence" as though that's the main reason we should celebrate them. IMHO the reason we should celebrate a band like Kraftwerk is because of the records they made, without the historical context.

Plus, I hope they don't let Hütter see the two mistakes they made in his name. Plus, Jarvis Cocker ffs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry64e6SVQGs

wow! more kraftneu!

beautifully clear shots of their mixing boards too

Yeah, that is fantastic footage. Thanks for the link geeta!

dope

truly hoping a complete unedited bootleg of this live version of kling klang shows up someday, sans voiceover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK486IAZyjA

yeah that Bremmen Radio bootleg is so great especially given how bad the Neu! 72 live album is. I really wish they had stayed together longer.

that first clip is the clearest Beat Club footage I've ever seen. Now I want to be in a band where I get to sit at a little desk with a cup of tea while I play.

yeah, it's amazing, isn't it? i went searching on that guy's YouTube page to see if he'd posted more clips but the rest of his uploads are horrible German schlager, that's the only Kraftwerk clip he's got

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI3_6Rayg4Q

ugh both of those clips are so great.

kraftwerk is guest-editing wallpaper* magazine

http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/kraftwerk-gues-edits-new-issue-wallpaper-magazine/

Having loved their stuff from Autobahn onwards, I did go about checking out their first three albums at one point. However, aside from 'Ruckzuck' (the first track on Kraftwerk 1), not much else of it warranted a second listen for me. However, it's all worth listening to at least one just to hear the roots.

A 3-D video installation by Kraftwerk premieres next month at an art museum in Munich. Kraftwerk will be playing three special concerts in 3-D in Munich to accompany the exhibition, which are all sold out:

http://www.lenbachhaus.de/cms/index.php?id=51&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=176&tx_ttnews[backPid]=1&cHash=cc4d30f42b

KRAFTWERK. 3-D VIDEO-INSTALLATION

15. Oktober - 13. November 2011, Di - So 10 - 22 Uhr

In den letzten vier Jahrzehnten haben die Elektro-Pioniere Kraftwerk Musikgeschichte geschrieben und weltweit Erfolge gefeiert. Bereits seit den Anfängen in den frühen 70er Jahren war Kraftwerk mit den Entwicklungen modernster Technologien verbunden. Die dadurch möglich gewordenen Töne haben dem digitalen Zeitalter nicht nur den bis dato fehlenden Sound verliehen. Kraftwerk gelten darüber hinaus als Pioniere und Urväter sehr verschiedener Musikrichtungen wie Hip-Hop, Electro, House, Techno und Synthie Pop. Seit ihrem Konzertauftritt im Rahmen der Biennale Venedig 2005 nimmt auch die Welt der zeitgenössischen Kunst die multimedialen Darbietungen von Kraftwerk als einzigartige Form künstlerischer Performance wahr. Im Kunstbau des Lenbachhauses wird nun zum ersten Mal die von Kraftwerk programmierte Bild- und Tonwelt als immersives Gesamtkunstwerk außerhalb des Konzertsaals erfahrbar. In einer speziell für den Kunstbau entwickelten mehrkanaligen 3D-Videoinstallation wird der einzigartigen und wirkmächtigen Stellung von Kraftwerk innerhalb der Geschichte der bildenden und darstellenden Künste Rechnung getragen.

Zur Ausstellung im Kunstbau erscheint eine begleitende Publikation im Verlag Schirmer/Mosel: Kraftwerk 3-D. Mit 3-D Brille

Im Vorfeld der Ausstellung finden folgende Konzerte von Kraftwerk in der Alten Kongresshalle in München statt:

12.10., 20 Uhr (ausverkauft)
13.10., 20 Uhr (ausverkauft)
13.10., 24 Uhr (ausverkauft)

In the last four decades, the electric power plant pioneers have written music history and successes celebrated worldwide. Since its beginnings in the early 70's power plant was connected with the developments of modern technology. The tones have become possible by the digital age, given not only the lack of sound to date. Power plant are also pioneers and founding fathers of very different styles of music like hip-hop, electro, house, techno and synth pop. Since her concert performance at the 2005 Venice Biennale, also perceives the world of contemporary art multi-media performances of the work force as a unique form of artistic performance. In the Kunstbau Lenbachhaus is now programmed for the first time the power plant of image and sound world experience as immersive work of art outside the concert hall. In a specially developed for the 3D structure of art multichannel video installation of the more unique and powerful position of power within the history of the visual and performing arts will be taken into account.

The exhibition is an accompanying publication will appear in the structure of art in the Schirmer / Mosel: Power Plant 3-D. With 3-D glasses

Prior to the exhibition will find the following concerts of power plant instead of in the Old Congress Hall in Munich:

picture of Skrillex
http://www.deathinvegasmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/kraftwerk.jpg

oh dear:

http://pic.twitter.com/hHLkyyz2

OMG BITCH, KRAFTWERK IS THE BOMB

TIESTO KRAFTWERK

Kraftwerk, New Order, 2manydjs, benga+skream, high contrast, flylo, sbtrkt ... and i bet the crowd will be decent-looking. thanks for the heads up!

TIESTO KRAFTWERK

Google Trans = "Kraftwerk Tribute"

Oh, OK, not really.

and skrillex, let's not forget him

i bet kraftwerk is getting paid unholy sums of money for this gig

hopefully they'll add some us dates beyond this

NO and KW on the same bill - sounds like a winner to me

waht

you guys:

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/15/moma-plans-kraftwerk-retrospective/?src=tp

hnngh

OH MAN

OMG.

http://www.moma.org/visit/calendar/exhibitions/1257

5 – Computer World (1981)
Sunday, April 15, 8:30 p.m.

i. must. go.

My wife and I are MOMA members - I've emailed the museum to find out if there'll be tickets held for members. Really want to go to at least one night of this. Wonder which night will be the least attended? I'm betting either The Mix or Tour de France, but honestly, The Mix night is the one I'd most like to attend. I loved that CD when it came out.

bollox... just booked tickets for my first ever US trip to NY in April. Fly home on the 9th April.

Bummed.

the press release says 'The exhibition is made possible by a partnership with Volkswagen of America'

i'm off to go buy a volkswagen, right now

>just booked tickets for my first ever US trip to NY in April. Fly home on the 9th April.

change your flight dates or hate yourself for the rest of your life

I'm a fan of some of the 90's 'Mix' versions of CW tracks, the 1998 digital version of 'Numbers' is exactly how a new Kraftwerk record should have sounded at that time. Not all of the updates worked, but I enjoyed the way they were reinterpreting the catalog. For the 2004 tour they seemed to regress some of the arrangements to be more faithful to the original versions. It'll be interesting to see how they handle it now that they're doing entire albums.

Might just have to make some of these, but I'm going to miss the first two nights which are the ones I want to see most. Unless word leaks that the 'additional composition' for the first night is a 30 minute long version of 'Elektrisches Roulette' in which case all bets are off

Awesome. And also rubbish, for I can't attend. But awesome.

the 'Trans-Europe' night may actually be the most magical from the NYC perspective - one of the things i remember finding really beautiful about the last time i saw kraftwerk in NYC was how diverse the crowd was up front - black, white, 50 yrs old, 18 yrs old, hip-hop, techno - and how mental the crowd went during 'Trans-Europe Express'

i really wish i'd gotten to see Kraftwerk in Detroit

so exciting - but I'm assuming this show will be toured to some extent

one of the things i remember finding really beautiful about the last time i saw kraftwerk in NYC was how diverse the crowd was up front - black, white, 50 yrs old, 18 yrs old, hip-hop, techno - and how mental the crowd went during 'Trans-Europe Express'

totally... noticed the same thing when I saw them, people from a really wide range of backgrounds/subculture responding to this universal music from slightly different angles. so great.

omg would love to see the whole of Radio-Activity live. pretty lol how they've retconned Techno Pop as having come out after all.

Omg only $25??? Which one(s) should I get? Can anyone tell me how impossible it'll be to get tickets to this thing?

Just how big is the "Donald B. and Catherine C. Marron Atrium"?

it's a big rectangular space with extremely high ceilings, not massive. what i'm sort of concerned about is the sound, but i'm sure kraftwerk is making them upgrade. it's on the 2nd floor of MoMA. where marina abramovic did her daily staring performances, if you remember that.

some views

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wallyg/563429697/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wallyg/563430073/

I hope it's not one of those things where tickets only go to the people who are lucky enough to refresh the sale page and click everything as quickly as possible at noon

I hope it's not one of those things where tickets only go to the people who are lucky enough to refresh the sale page and click everything as quickly as possible at noon

Welcome to Earth. Have you been here long?

not seeing anything about members being able to get tix early.

are you thinking of going stevie d?

Welcome to Earth. Have you been here long?

My point was less "shows that sell out in 30 minutes" and more "shows that sell out instantaneously" (e.g. LCD at MSG)

And yeah I am p hellbent on seeing Computer World and/or Techno Pop or maybe Autobahn, gah! Decisions.

i don't get this: There is a two-ticket limit per person for the entire series.

huge demand, low supply, wanting everyone to see at least something?

yes, sure i get that. it's just unclear... can i order 2 tickets for 2 different nights?

Just got an email from MOMA - no tickets held back for members; you gotta get in there at 12 on Tuesday like everybody else.

Thursday

Thanks Geeta, seems like an odd place acoustically? Hm.
Stevie, I went to the Showclix site and it does look like you can purchase two tickets only. Huh. "There is a two ticket per person limit for the entire series. Once you have purchased two tickets, you will be unable to purchase tickets for any other Kraftwerk performance."

That is kind of a drag. Oh well. Fingers crossed we can get something. At the very least, we will come for the exhibition at PS1...

Oh, and the tickets go on sale on Wednesday, Feb 22, at 12:00 PM EST.

found this short review i wrote of the last time kraftwerk played NYC, almost exactly seven years ago

http://www.villagevoice.com/2005-05-31/music/be-stiff/

yes, definitely an odd space acoustically! the trend towards big museums underwriting gigs by interesting bands is something i support, but when they stick them in a big open-air atrium or something like that i start to wonder. museums weren't designed for great sound

hammerstein ballroom was definitely a great venue to see kraftwerk--kind of like the warfield in SF

I was there at Hammerstein! :D And in DC two nights previously! Uh oh, I am outed as a fan-girl!

there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a kraftwerk fangirl: i have been one since age 13

here's an essay i wrote some years ago, where i talk about being a teenage kraftwerk fan (and other stuff)

http://www.villagevoice.com/2005-02-01/news/i-robot/

there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a kraftwerk fangirl

i agree, vigorously

yea, I was at that hammerstein show too. everyone cheering during the 'chernobyl, hiroshima, etc.' into to 'radioactivity' was o_O

seriously great show tho. one of the best I've seen.

I saw them at the Manchester Velodrome a couple of years back, one of the best gigs I've ever seen; I still get chills just thinking about the opening, "The Man Machine", with that arpeggio and then thunderous bass and the crowd going *completely fucking nuts* as they were revealed. That run of shows at MOMA looks epic.

sorry, the tix time is noon ET on next Wednesday

^^That's where the real-life cyclists came on the Velodrome track during "Tour de France", right? Saw it on youtube, amazing!
Saw them in '04, so so great. Would love to be able to see the 3d show. A friend told me he read tweets suggesting they'd do a similar run at Tate Modern/London. Does anyone know more?
xpost

They were pretty awesome when I saw them a few years back, too. Great light show, great sound. Want to say I saw Massive Attack the same year at the same venue, and the shows were oddly analogous in terms of quality and surprise entertainment value.

They were pretty awesome when I saw them a few years back, too. Great light show, great sound.

saw them in '07 - don't remember anything about the light show but I have never and I mean never heard better live sound

just wanna +1 all these comments

God, I'm really really worried there will be absolutely no way for me to get tickets to these

('08 I mean, having re-read the thread - xp to me)

New song up on youtube under the klingklang account. Sounds an awful lot like the last album. Maybe there will be another night at nyc, to debut the new album? *jozz in my pants*

link plz!!

A friend told me he read tweets suggesting they'd do a similar run at Tate Modern/London. Does anyone know more?

― willem, Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:48 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lots of people are requesting it. The source of the rumours seems to be this tweet by these guys, who I've never heard of.

It's some serious getting-hopes-up stuff though.

think I'm gonna take a shot at Man-Machine and maybe Computer World (on the theory that Trans-Europe Express will be the most popular ticket)

^^^man machine is their best anyway.

but i'll be out of town for that one :-/

Really re: TEE being most popular? It seems like it'd be CW and Man Machine by a long shot, followed by TEE and Autobahn, and then Radioactivity, Techno Pop, The Mix, and TDF being way behind

TEE is the first one I bought bc of its heavy status w critics. but I'm not sure if that proves much of anything.

holding out for ralf & florian night btw.

I'd see 3-way tie between CW, M-M and TEE, then the rest. I would kill to attend ANY of these shows btw

xposts
Lots of people are requesting it. The source of the rumours seems to be this tweet by these guys, who I've never heard of.

Guy from KW mailing list. There were noises about the Tate back at the time of the Munich Lenbachhaus Kunstbau show/concert at Alten Kongresshalle.

^^^man machine is their best anyway.

yeah I agree

Really re: TEE being most popular?

I have no idea, just thinking that's their most widely known track because of "Planet Rock" (see post above about black, white, young, old, hip-hop, techno)

i really want to get man-machine but think it will be the most popular/quickest to sell out. it's on my birthday!!! i think techno pop will be my second choice.

also i dearly wish they were doing ralf und florian, because it's my favorite.

man, i'm so jealous of the techno pop lovers. try as i might i just can't get into it as heavily as the others

Would love to see them at Tate Modern or similar in London. I saw them at Tribal Gathering '97. I was in the 'Detroit' tent most of the day but they shut that down for an hour or so because none of the acts (Terrence Parker, Carl Craig, Kevin Saunderson etc.) would play during Kraftwerk. They were late coming on and then.. BOOM!

xpost I dunno, I can 'get behind' people thinking "we wait all that time, and it's pretty much what we'd expect", but apart from that I can't detect a massive drop in quality.

The kids were doing the 'B-boom-TCK!' after I'd had a KWork splurge in the car, a few years ago.

Again - as I said upthread - I cannot imagine this would be the only performance of these shows - it does not seem to make any kind of business sense to rehearse and do the programming for all these songs for just a one-off in a smallish venue.

the entirety of their "business sense" over the last 30 years has been "it interested Ralf at the time" though

hmmm, see, no disrespect to Ralf (and Florian) but I have the feeling that most of their activity in the last 10 years has been somewhat financially driven (which doesn't take anything away to how awesome it's all been)

I remember someone once saying that the accent they use on "Autobahn" is 'strong dusseldorf' which is their version of 'brummie'

Which means, to their home nation,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c81X6BiI0Y

sounds like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGwYPd6ajTk

>A friend told me he read tweets suggesting they'd do a similar run at Tate Modern/London.

Wld kiw KW in the turbine hall 4REAL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4yohA0ZVt4

hitler otm

lol @ JW

it is hilarious - good work jw

my one pedantic note: there should be an umlaut over the 'u' in 'führer'

Fuck in already getting way upset about not getting tickets

I'm

haha i posted the video to twitter

250 new hits in the last hour

Haha that video is awesome

the whitney declares war on kraftwerk at moma - they're bringing the red krayola april 14

http://whitney.org/Events/TheRedKrayolaPerformance2

Hm.
http://www.brandingmagazine.com/2012/02/17/volkswagen-america-sponsors-kraftwerk-performance/
"...They will perform selected songs from all of their albums in chronological order featuring 3-D visualization, dubbed Kraftwerk – Retrospective 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8..."

i am going to make a serious attempt to go to one or two of the TEE/M-M/CW shows, hope i get one!

I hadn't realized they'd been touring a 3D show for a bit now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwuks2_rtRc

So wait - "selected songs" = not doing ENTIRE album each night? Why did I think they were doing full albums?

None of the albums are that long, they can't possibly be taking stuff out.

I'd be more inclined to believe the MoMA website.

Each evening consists of a live performance and 3-D visualization of one of Kraftwerk's studio albums—Autobahn (1974), Radio-Activity (1975), Trans-Europe Express (1977), The Man-Machine (1978), Computer World (1981), Techno Pop (1986), The Mix (1991), and Tour de France (2003)—in the order of their release. Kraftwerk will follow each evening’s album performance with additional compositions from their catalog, all adapted specifically for this exhibition.

I remember someone once saying that the accent they use on "Autobahn" is 'strong dusseldorf' which is their version of 'brummie'

They were posh boys tho, esp. Florian, he's virtually upper class

I remember someone once saying that the accent they use on "Autobahn" is 'strong dusseldorf'

Yes, that was Billie Ray Martin, who is from Hamburg. She said that Ralf's strong accent makes the song slightly comical to many Germans.

jw's 'hitler reacts' video on youtube has gone from 600 hits to nearly 15,000 in the past 72 hours

wow

the whitney declares war on kraftwerk at moma - they're bringing the red krayola april 14

http://whitney.org/Events/TheRedKrayolaPerformance2

more info on the Kraftwerk concerts at MoMA: i'm told that the capacity of the space is under 1000 people

I'm going to be at a computer come noon tomorrow hoping to score tickets, though I won't be surprised if I don't. Worth a try, though.

hv had complaints that Hitler shd be complaining about them not doing first 3 albums

Well, he was an Organisation fan

a Red Krayola that only has Mayo Thompson might be more worth seeing than a Kraftwerk that only has Ralf Hütter.

i am pretty sad that they're not doing ralf & florian

i mean, not actually sad, but that would be cool.

ralf und florian is my favourite,the only one i own,but yeah,they're never going to play it are they.tanzmusik is the best song.

Who would play the flute?

Thay'd have to call the evening "Ralf, aber Florian nichts"

at noon today, our collective love of kraftwerk will flip to violent competition as we all rapidly hit refresh

best of luck to you all, but i will punch you in the face if i have to

guys, i need man-machine, it's on my birthday, i'm so not getting it though am i.

If I miss out and someone doesn't take me I will return to the politics threads after Easter.

(j/k, haven't listened to K'werk a ton really)

There's no better time than the present.

it's kind of nerveracking to pick which show to aim for, because if it doesn't work out you know the other shows will sell out while you're hitting refresh and getting the spinny wheel guy.

yeah feeling stressed already

was originally thinking TEE but now maybe MM? ahhh or CW???????

I want people to go to CW so I can meet them, but I don't want you to get my ticket.

blooooood!

dude, Numbers coming out of giant speakers. amazing.

Am I the only one planning to gun for Radio-Activity?

that's probably a smart move. i would consider if it wasn't a wednesday.

I would só gun for Radio-Activity. And TEE. But I'm on the wrong continent. Good luck to all you guys!

radio-activity is on the same day as pulp :(

i feel bad for chickfactor - everyone was all excited for those shows when they were announced but between this and pulp the same week they have had their thunder stolen.

god i can't read this thread anymore i am going to have a stroke

was originally thinking TEE but now maybe MM? ahhh or CW???????

yeah that's pretty much where I'm at. might try for two out of these three in two different browsers and see how it goes. I think Computer World is my #1 choice.

good luck usa.

Given the choice I'd go for either The Man Machine or Trans-Europe Express but I dunno, you could probably do worse than settling for The Mix, because at least then you get a load of the hits.

(Pardon my philistinism for saying so)

No hope for 'Exceller' 8 then?

Good luck all!

While you all wait and hit refresh:

http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/The_night_Kraftwerk_blitzed_The_Ritz_with_bliss

here we go.

F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5,

(o_o;)

I am waiting in the Queue

*waits in queue*

yeah me too

same

can't get into M-M queue, but i'm in the CW one

waiting for transeurope natch
zs, if you're in nyc for this we gotta touch base

same here. I'm in for Computer World and TEE queue. locked out on Man-Machine.

just me, you, and 5 zillion other people

lol, not buying tickets, but this is still stressing me out! good luck!

srsly abt to have a heart attack over here

i have very little hope honestly.

just relax and look at this amazing pic from ned's post above
http://www.dangerousminds.net/images/uploads/kraftwerk123.jpg

waitwaitwaitonthinternets

aaaaand now in queue for radioactivity and autobahn while i'm at it

i have very little hope honestly.

yeah. I got a couple "the site is not responding" high traffic errors first. so it's not like I got in at 12:00 right on the dot.

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2012/02/kraftwerk_moma_ticket_sales.php

i'm in queue for CW and my friend in the next room is in the mix queue

ya i got a not responding thing too

i clicked through right at 12 (well five seconds passed) and i got the "tickets dont go on sale until 12 pm" so i had to refresh

I'm in the TEE, M-M and CW queues now. But I was in the CW queue the at 12:00, so I'm probably higher up for that one.

FUCKING SPINNING WHEEL, JUST TELL ME IF YOU HAVE TICKETS LEFT OR NOT, FUCK!!!!

this is agonizing

i'm in the queue for 'man-machine', 'trans-europe' and 'radio-activity'

I mean a server can handle multiple ticket purchases at once and I feel like there's no way after 11 minutes of ticket purchases there's still shit left

uncontrollable violent sobbing and knuckle-biting itt

just got tix

we're going to get through this.

xp no one likes you

why am I still queueing did i time out what's going on

Hoping no one else wants to see TdF

getting a big red sign for autobahn now saying SIGNS POINT TO NO

im jk btw, prob not a good j

There are currently a large number of people in the virtual waiting line for this event and a very limited number of tickets still available. You may continue to wait here or choose another event

There are currently a large number of people in the virtual waiting line for this event and a very limited number of tickets still available. You may continue to wait here or choose another event.

I feel like I saw the page refresh. I might be crazy. Still in queue.

hmmm, i got a big red sign for M-M and TEE but not for CW

haha xpost

crushiing agonizing defeat

aaaaaand now all of them have that

ugh, my page timed out. refreshed and got back in the queue but now I'm seeing that same red box >:-(

If anyone gets tickets please just don't talk about it at all ever.

still queuing

if i don't get in i'm going to stand in front of MoMA wearing my 'Florian' t-shirt in protest

why did they do this

NOOOOOO

ugh, my page timed out. refreshed and got back in the queue but now I'm seeing that same red box >:-(

same

let's choose other events

figure I will stick it out until I get an official NOPE, NO MORE TIX message

sigh

dan s. on facebook: "Instead of going to Kraftwerk, I'm going to put two mannequins in the back seat of my car, play Neon Lights on repeat and drive really fast on the BQE. Who's with me?"

I WORK DOWN THE STREET FROM MOMA why are they not selling tix at the venue fer crissakes

I thought they were the next day at noon? no?

hitler reacts to waiting in the queue

aaaaaaaand the page timed out again

Stevie, you thought they were selling on site at noon? I'm gonna check and find out if that's the case.

Timed out 4 times for me :(

Bcz I was sorta prepared to hop on a bus tonight and camp out overnight if so...

yeah I got a time-out and now the whole site's down

got dropped from trans europe. computer world was the first queue I got on and is still spinning.

the dream is over

still haven't timed out

chances they'll book more shows?

now the red message went away

red signs gone, 2 spinning wheels

i did this on my iphone mere minutes after getting above ground from the metro
walked for blocks with phone in my hand. got home.
i am still waiting in the Queue

this is weird

maybe the whole thing is an art project

I'm back in all 3 queues?!

"0 interested in this event" BULLSHIT

rrobyn otm

at least it's happening at the same time to all us sad sacks

we are the robots

it's so nice that they decided to do this at noon so that I could, you know, not have lunch today

I think they rebooted the server circa 12:25, hence all the queue length warnings disappearing on the next refresh.

it'd be nice if they remembered the legendary people who were there at high noon, hitting refresh

yeah, i gotta eat... may have to let this go.

it just dropped my last connection

that's all folks

this computer world we're all in now kinda sucks, huh

yes it does.

more like KRAFTJERK

I am going to go splurge on SVIIB and Spiritualized tickets now

i miss the days of camping out all day with other super nerds

keep trying! get back in the queue!

Facebook comment: "Guys, they just stand there."

haha.

more timeouts. also getting hungry.

nothing but spinning wheels on this end

lunch is being served at work and i feel like i need to stay in front of the cmoputer

re: camping tho, kinda funny in that the thread's become the virtual that

kraftwerk non-fans I went to the last nyc show with: "they just stood there... but it was AWESOME"

nah guys the only thing that will actually screw up your spot in the queue is deleting your browser cookies, there's a separate session cookie for each show so if your connection drops and you reload the page you should be in the spot you had all along

buddy finally got a "show is sold out" for autobahn after having a reservation for that half hour

someone else on my FB says they got all the way through to selecting tickets for CW and filling out a captcha before the connection got dropped

I'm done w/ it, good luck dudes

xpost i want that to be true, so so badly

robin is telling me she got through but is jamming the buy tix button to no avail

oh man i would actually cry I think if that happened

i'm so thirsty and i have to the bathroom, also very very hungry

i'm dying here

randomcoder @randcode
@showclix maybe your engineers should work on the issue of the captcha not showing, instead of taunting twitter. #kraftwerk #servicefailure

Sorry, this event is sold out.

they must have sold all the tickets by now. this is cruel.

just timed out of CW for the second time.

which one sold out Alan?

a friend of mine used the phone and got tix to computer world 20 minute ago
the phone!!
but everything is a queue no matter what. but still.

autobahn x-post to zs

i am looking forward to the in-queue show

what?! It said it was online only on the moma website!!

i didn't know there was a phone option! fuck, i would have been on the phone!

i know! that's why i didn't phone!

nevermind me steve, just being annoyed
i think rrrobyn means smartphone not calling

i wish these were just big free outdoor shows as all shows of this proportion should be in nyc imo

xp

no i mean calling, on the phone, with a voice

huh, that's wild

oh no forks that was an xp to rrrobyn

still some hope for radio-activity via someone else but outlook not so good. I'm gonna wash my disappointment down with an itallian lunch special. good luck all.

why does there have to be no god all of the time

TEE circle still goin'

I used to stand in line on the morning of sale, and the bands played real instruments too.

robin's telling me she timed out while she was rushing to put in her credit card number

the cruelties of this are many and varied

yeah, i'm back in the TEE and CW queue, apparently. fuck, i just want a resolution here.

we have so much confusion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQPvgHEMCFs

i'm just in the TEE queue
this is making me feel kind of silly but oh well

my boss is still apparently reserved for trans-europe, keeps having to enter captchas

i've been "Checking Captcha..." for about 15 mins. now

that's some captcha, that Captcha-22

I'm back with the big red box

same.

"All tickets for all Kraftwerk performances are either being held by other users while they're being purchased or completely sold-out. If those ticket buyers that have reserved tickets do not complete their reservation, those tickets will become available for purchase again within a few minutes."

^^ new big red box

apparently 'techno pop' is 100% sold out now

i fear for the others

Yo, fuck the past hour and seven minutes of my life

o well back to work

sigh, nothing

showclix on twitter

https://twitter.com/#!/showclix

I didn't remember to try for this until around 12:15, so obviously nothing on my end either. We could all maybe have a Kraftwerk commiseration party?

there were 50,000 simultaneous connections to the ticket site at around 12:15 apparently

this whole experience was, as Mayor Bloomberg wd say, "very cute"

queuing endless

endless endless

have we all learned nothing from 77 Boadrums. never 4get.

hahaa

i am covering this as press - i may get in that way, though they are strictly limiting press as well

spoke to the moma press department this morning - they say they have been inundated with press requests - as you can imagine, every blogger/magazine/newspaper in NYC wants to be on the list for this

capacity is quite a bit below 1000

i will be in NYC anyway the week of April 11, so a Kraftwerk commiseration party sounds like a plan!!

Sorry - but since there was such high demand and a limited number of tickets available - this event has sold out! We wish there was more inventory available, but space was very limited. We appreciate your understanding. Thank you!

TEE

:(

yeah i am trying to get press tickets too, they are friendly but when i emailed last week the guy was like "hey, you could always try your luck next week"

aw, TEE sold out and i did not win despite being in queue at 12:00:30 :(
xp
:(

TEE HEE

i tried for radio-activity and failed

according to Showclix on twitter, all 8 kraftwerk shows are now sold out

i figured this would be a 'limited press only' event, yeah, like music editors of high-profile print only, but one never knows, sometimes...

i am kind of sad tbh

Well, I think we will still come up for the show at PS 1.

have we all learned nothing from 77 Boadrums. never 4get.

well, I had.

yes i will go to that in lieu
xp

i have never been to PS1 anyway!

everyone i think i'll have a commiseration/bday party on friday the 13th.

i'll always have my PULP coup of orch row b tickets to hold on to.

:)

What's the PS1 thing? Won't that be inundated as well?

now I have an extra $25-35 to put toward my MLB.TV payment!

http://atrophiedmind.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/halffullstopper300.jpg

xxp

"A presentation of Kraftwerk’s historical audio and visual material is on view at MoMA PS1, April 10–May 14, 2012."

Sort of curious about it. Nothing on their site yet though.

I got into Radio-Activity. I did it. Oh my God. I feel like I survived a nuclear winter.

yeah it says at the bottom of their press release and on most website articles talking abt the shows, it says:
Kraftwerk at MoMA PS1
As part of Kraftwerk–Retrospective 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8, a presentation of Kraftwerk’s historical audio and visual material will be on view in the new MoMA PS1 Performance Dome at MoMA PS1, from April 10-May 14, 2012.

congrats!
xp

scalpers, already - look at those prices!

http://www.tonsoftickets.com/ResultsTicket.php?evtid=1834084

i could kill a thousand scalpers with a hatchet and not lose a night's sleep

a friend managed 30 tickets via a command line script

(passing on to friends not scalping tho)

i hate your friend

i though these were impossible to scalp since they are will call and you need a valid id though?

i also hate your friend, although to be fair, i hate a lot of people this afternoon

a friend managed 30 tickets via a command line script

(passing on to friends not scalping tho)

― fauxmarc, Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:48 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

weak

sorry but I hope your friend can't use them because of the ID thing (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

it's a competitive world

i hope your friend gets stabbed in the heart by a robber

isn't it kinda appropriate that robots took all the tickets

fucking robots

I will go to a Joan Blondell film at MoMA one of those nights and sneak in, ha HA

i was wondering if it would be possible to hide out overnight, mixed-up files of mrs. basil e. frankweiler style

i bet if you had a good enough novelty costume you could walk right in. people would just assume you were good to go.

Wow, what a tremendously fucked-up thing to do. How would the ticket company not catch that?

yeah cuz that's never happened before

fauxmarc's friend is the reason we can't have nice things

isn't it kinda appropriate that robots took all the tickets

― iatee, Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:58 PM (31 minutes ago)

seriously though, protip free of charge: don't go onto a thread full of people that tried and failed to get one ticket so you can str8 brag about the friend that cheated the system to get 30 tickets

...or they'll cry

its just kind of a dick move tbrr

why do you hate robots so much

This is shit, sorry for you guys.
A big YAY for Clarke B's Radio-Activity ticket though!

Morbs' hiding in the bathroom of the Titus strategy OTM

brilliant!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3XvL59l6pw

For the record, I was not one of Fauxmarc's dickfriend's 30 robot recipients! My girlfriend logged on right at noon (I had to be away from my computer) and got us tix after a long wait, and being kicked off like twice... I couldn't believe it, and the shock deepens as I keep discovering just how many people tried and didn't get them. Sorry for everyone, and I wish my apartment was big enough to house you all for the big Kraftwerk LP listening party I'm throwing for my "IRL" pals that weekend (none of whom got in either).

When I rule the world I will outlaw online bookings and make people wait in line at the box office for tickets. This is the only system that even begins to make sense. I remember when ppl used to camp outside box offices for 24 hours to be in line for Springsteen and U2 tickets, if you were prepared to do that you got your tickets. Obviously it would mean that people who can't get to the box office would lose out but I think something has to give.

tickets should just be auctioned

artists would make more money

people camp out in front of the apple store to buy iphones - but not for concert tickets. welcome to the future

Anagram, I totally agree. People should have to sweat a little for the really difficult-to-get tickets. I hope the Iron Maiden shows in May don't have the same ridiculous crunch/failure rate--although given that they're playing small arenas, I doubt that...

iron maiden at MoMA = urgent and key

apple creates reasons for people to camp out so it'll get on the news. some random show isn't gonna get media attention if some people are camping out all night, so it'd just be meaningless inconvenience.

tempted to call BS on the 30 ticket story

or if true, good luck rolling up to the will call to claim those

i know at least a few majordomo music types who are lamenting on facebook that they couldn't score either

pretty sure the 30 ticket story is bs...have heard it repeated across the web but no one has any details

more like fauxfauxmarc

if it's true there's no way the person won't get caught since they are blabbing so much about it...so at least there's that.

but how do you prosecute a robot?

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac47/BradofEarth/Sex-Robot-Courtroom.gif

metal detector at the door?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNckavq9fiY

http://cache.io9.com/assets/images/8/2008/01/Courtroom.jpg

http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/rma/lowres/rman12699l.jpg

lmao at "courtrooms of the future"

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzjf0oAO7X1r8yo2fo2_500.jpg

xpost -- I love that weird looming judge image.

totally.

VR goggles are killing me.

judge has two light sabers with which he weighs the scales of justice

lol @ You are waiting in the Queue youtube
tho a sad lol

not least bc i was trying for TEE too

moving on!

moving on on on on the autobahn

Hm:
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/tix/2865771796.html

I now know one person IRL who got tickets so I guess I have to believe there was actually a sale today

before that I wasn't sure

idgi

WANTED: Kraftwerk 4/13 or 4/14 - $500 (Midtown)

Date: 2012-02-22, 6:41PM EST
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I am looking for two tickets to either computer world or the man machine -- willing to pay $500 EA for these tickets.

Location: Midtown
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Oh man I can't wait for the internet shitshow if that craigslist post turns out to be real.

i really hope it's true

I got 2 for the Radioactivity show, not sure how that happened.

So apparently the ShowClix CEO posted a letter of apology about yesterday here. As everyone is reading it, it's also down as well. There's just a 404 note and this image and caption instead:

http://www.showclix.com/css/homepage/img/404.png

We looked, but couldn't find the page or file you requested on our servers. Our engineers are rather bright people, too, so we're not really sure how this could've happened. Sorry about that! Let us know if you continue to find yourself here.

It's here, too

it's a fair mea culpa but a little hollow

Wow, that's v likely the most sincere/informative/responsibility-taking apology letter I've ever read from a company tbh

i agree with stevie d

still bummed, though :(

For you, ZS!
http://www.vwgifaway.com/
DO IT NOW!

:O

i almost fell out of my chair! holy shit!!

wait a second..

"Increase your odds of seeing Kraftwerk at MoMA. Create an animated GIF from one of these sites."

the link points to a google search for "animated gif online". does that mean i have to use a crappy automatic gif maker? can't i just use photoshop?

aw man, and it doesn't even matter if the animation is good or not.the quality of the gif doesn't matter.

The official rules say "GIFs will not be judged", and then go on to talk about a random drawing for the winners. All that submitting a gif gets you is 2 chances to win instead of 1, essentially.
So you could submit a flashing text gif that says "KRAFTWERK" and it counts as much as a 400-frame epic journey through the pulsating electronic veins of Ralf & Florian, basically.