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She/they don't have a thredd and I think that's a shame. From the Mute press release:

Following their half-million selling debut 'Felt Mountain'
Goldfrapp return with a brand new album, 'Black Cherry' due for
release on Mute on the 28th of April.

Written and recorded over the last 12 months by the Goldfrapp
duo of Alison Goldfrapp and Will Gregory, ‘Black Cherry’
features 10 new tracks and includes the forthcoming single
'Train', released on the 14th of April.

So...anyone heard the single or album? More of the same luscious stuff, or more of the same whatever stuff?

― Charlie (Charlie), Thursday, 16 January 2003 03:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Search: pretty much all of Felt Mountain, everything she did with Orbital esp "Are We Here?" and "The Box", the Mick Harvey remix of "Utopia" and any time Goldfrapp play live - breathtaking.

Destroy: Alison's grating speaking voice, which damn near ruined everything.

― Charlie (Charlie), Thursday, 16 January 2003 03:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Finally got this album recently in some maxiextendo version and...it was nice and all, I guess.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 January 2003 03:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought Felt Mountain was extremely overrated. Nice, as Ned sez, but utterly dull, which disappointed me greatly as "Utopia" and "Lovely Head" promised the greatest album ever. I mean, the much-hated Oompah Radar isn't even the worst thing on it...

― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 16 January 2003 06:24 (twenty-three years ago)

I have to echo edward's sentiments, though to lesser degrees cos her quasi-Liz Fraser stylings on other projects still stun me. I was expecting more space-diva from FM, not French pop.

Nonetheless, search: her on Tricky's "Pumpkin," her on Peter Gabriel's "Time of the Turning (reprise)"

― Leee (Leee), Thursday, 16 January 2003 06:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes. More space-diva, less French pop. My sentimonies exarctly. Kudos, Leee.

― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 16 January 2003 06:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Fair comments all. I was kinda hoping for a load of stuff like that ridiculously-tonsilled blue diva in The Fifth Element but it is true that Felt Mountain's perhaps a bit...polite in parts. The Cocteaus of the coffe-table, perhaps.

Still interested to hear if they've developed at all on the new album, but.

― Charlie (Charlie), Thursday, 16 January 2003 06:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Goldfrapp's Felt Mountain LP found its way in a very special category that I love, with Marc Almond's Strange Things LP and several other records. Search both!

― Panagiotis Pileidis (Panagiotis Pileidis), Thursday, 16 January 2003 09:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Search Felt Mountain and all the stuff she did with Orbital. Destroy, um, the cover of Felt Mountain and the make-up she once had on Joolz Holland 'cos they both made her look weird when actualyl she's quite pretty.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 16 January 2003 09:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Search - Lovely Head, Pilots and Utopia... the rest of Felt Mountain, though very nice and all, doesn't quite match up to those three. And Tricky's Pumpkin. And everything she's done with Orbital, obviously.

Destroy - The instrumentals on Felt Mountain. I'm also hoping the new record will be far more electronic-based.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 16 January 2003 09:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, and search - Orbital's Dwr Bwdr - the vocals on the first part of which are the most gorgeous thing she's committed to tape.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 16 January 2003 09:30 (twenty-three years ago)

This is a big mystery to me.

Why is Felt Mountain so great in theory, so brilliantly executed, and yet ... so unlistenably dull that you never get round to playing it more than about once a year?

― phil jones (interstar), Thursday, 16 January 2003 10:23 (twenty-three years ago)

this 'dull' talk really gets my goat...can you explain WHY its dull? and what would make it NOT dull? what is a 'better' example of music of this kind? should they have tried to copy Portishead (more breaks and bluesy soul vocals?) or Moloko (more pop hooks and zaniness) more? how do you feel 'Felt Mountain' compares to 'Dummy' if at all?

and whats the problem with only listening to it once a year anyway? thats how most albums go for me in fact

i'm just sick of the word 'dull' or 'bland' being applied to anything that sits in that 'chillout/ambient' niche...i can't defend Zero 7 for it maybe, or even Royksopp...but the uniqueness of Alison's voice along with the super-polished Barryesue production create a powerful concoction that doesnt strike me as dull at all

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 16 January 2003 10:37 (twenty-three years ago)

It's a very stylish and proficient semblance of passion that gets presented on FM, and while the music is wonderful it does, for me too, lack that killer 'thing' (god knows what) that would draw me to play it more often. I enjoy it when I do play t, but am not inspired to play it much, and this 'not inspired to play it much' seems to = dull.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 16 January 2003 10:40 (twenty-three years ago)

i just dont see it that way...for me something's only dull if i dont have any enthusiasm for it at all and never want to indulge in it. if you enjoy it when you do play it, are you saying you are enjoying the dullness or what? rather than admit that i would figure that that would mean i don't find it dull - i dont think its designed for regular listening, not as much as 'Simple Things' or 'Melody AM' or even the Broadcast stuff i guess. i do see your point though, i suspect you listened to 'Dummy' a lot more when that came out, and you never felt the need to refer to it as dull as a result?

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 16 January 2003 10:57 (twenty-three years ago)

stevem : "Dull" isn't a quality I analyse in the music. It's an emotional response ... summarizing I don't feel excited enough to play this. Many times I think of playing it, only to feel it would be too much of a drag, and play something else.

Compare Portishead:. I don't play this much now either, but when I do I still feel "WOW! This was so fresh, so radical!" I'm reminded of how much I was blown away by it when it first came out. (Remember there was NOTHING like Portishead at the time (except Massive Attack who were more pop in those days)

Compare Moloko : Do You Like My Tight Sweater is one of my favourite albums. Yeah, the zany, childishness, toytown nature of it really appeals. Whenever I hear it I'm transported into a world of delight.

Compare Leila Arab : It isn't the instrumentals I don't like. Some of the tends towards the Leila Arab stuff. But I prefer Leila's overall mix of voices and willingness to use crazier / hevier / dirtier sounds.

The point is that I don't want Goldfrapp to just copy one of these bands, I appreciate them doing their own thing. And I know on some level they are unique, and as "good" as Portishead or Moloko or Leila (ie. not just A.N.Other trip-hop rip-off like Lamb or Morcheeba) but I still ... I just don't feel like listening to that record very much.

― phil jones (interstar), Thursday, 16 January 2003 10:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Ah. Interesting thought. Two kinds of dullness - emotional and musical, both of which can be presented in music. I don't know that FM is emotionally dull, just mannered. The feelings it inspires can be massively intense. Can they? Um... I don't go to it for emotional satisfaction, but rather a kind of aesthetic satisfaction, I think. Are Coldplay guilty of being both emotionally and musically dull, and is that why they are so reviled in certain areas? I liked Dummy when it came out, but nowhere near as much as the first two MA albums or Maxinquaye, which is still the case. I've only just replaced my copy of Dummy after lending it to someone 5 years and never seeing it again, and I only replaced it cos I liked Out Of Season so much. Hmmm... Aesthetic, sopisticated, mannered emotion versus raw, untrained passion? Which is which? How much crossover is there? Can there be a sense of objectively definable difference between teh two?

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:05 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm probably being a bit of a stroppy child for not just seeing that and thinking nothing of it...only the way 'dull' gets tossed around so readily on this board with regard to a lot of the cinematic/ambient/winebar music just reminds me of a spolit child who dismisses something as boring just because its not garishly coloured, energetic or uncomplicated. but i know dullness is in the eye of the beholder.

i was thinking about Boards Of Canada as well and how their music just pirouettes on the fine line between beauty and dullness constantly...you could say (there must have been some strong arguments about that when 'MHTRTC' was released - i'd be amazed if no-one else had a problem with them at first, like i did). its something that would just come down to the perspective of the listener. perhaps BOC are different because although their production is so seemingly lo-fi (deliberately perhaps) they offer so many ideas and after-thoughts as a result...or the listener just finds those thru having to 'work harder' as it were to understand what they're about, or what they/the music could be about. obviously Goldfrapp and co do not rely on that abstraction method so much.

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Boards Of Canada are an interesting quantity. I wish they were more obviously melodic. A lot of the time it seems as if their msuic doesn't care whether you listen to it or not, unlike, say Orbital, which involves me as a listener much more. Why/how is this?

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:12 (twenty-three years ago)

raw, untrained passion is hard to capture on record and surely an illusion most of the time...but of course if you listen to a song you want to imagine the vocalist really feels that way and you can lose yourself in their world for a while. i suppose that was the great thing about the classic jazz singers (esp. the females)

but aesthetic, sopisticated, mannered emotion is surely just as valid - surely the essence of pop music itself. you could argue that Alison Goldfrapp DOES combine these two methods but perhaps it just doesnt come off as well, caught between two stools as it were - and people dont retain the interest as a result.

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:13 (twenty-three years ago)

another excellent observation Nick - yes BOC's music is remarkable in that respect. unlike Orbital you dont get the same sense of construction, and there's no invitation, no communication. its like walking into a room of people as exhibits who do not/cannot acknowledge your presence and you are just left to observe them doing whatever it is they're doing and draw your own conclusions, whereas in Orbital's case, they do acknowledge you and respond to your entrance...

does that make sense? i'm not sure if its really true but its an interesting though

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:17 (twenty-three years ago)

From the review of the Beth gibbons album I did for Stylus -

"A much wiser man than me once said that “singing isn’t about hitting notes; it’s about pulling strings.” On both sides of the Atlantic right now we seem beset with ‘vocalists’ rather than singers, practitioners of a precise science, physicists of the larynx, where the held note and the octave-range are Holy Grails and where personality and character are shied. Mariah Carey, high priestess of vocalists, finally demonstrates a degree of personality by coming dangerously close to an emotional breakdown, and her career freefalls, an album flops, and her malaise deepens. As soon as she sheds the vestiges of real, panicked, terrifying emotion and re-embraces the precision-engineering of her particular brand of commercial nu-soul dance-pop balladry, she is accepted into the welcoming bosom once again, where the hyper real falsification and spectacle of emotion is craved, but the dirty, unpredictable business of reality is shunned.

In the UK, we have this year been force-fed a continual diet of televisual-gauntlet-running vocalists who are forced to sing for their survival in front of an audience baying for success and the Xeroxed semblance of safe emotion, muppets who can hold a note and occasionally span an octave but whose real range extends fully from fake to false. Entertainers. Real emotion, actual feeling, is a scary, frightening prospect, because it might summon in us great feelings, terrific sensations and overwhelming passions that demand of us responsibility, maturity, intelligence, control, astuteness and commitment – things that most of us are both unwilling and unable to supply.

But enough about emotion and hyper reality, I’m here to talk about singers. Gareth Gates ran through an Elvis medley at the British Royal Variety Performance last week, trying his hardest, bless him, throwing shapes and trying to carry songs that, in actual fact, carried him and his weak, insipid larynx so obviously that the fear was apparent in his eyes to anyone looking closely enough. Chris Martin, fat lad from Starsailor, Fran Healy, through to Robbie Williams, Will Young, Charlotte Church, a peculiarly British list of vocalists but you could add any number of Americans, Australians, products of any Western capitalist culture industry system, all are vocalists before being singers and entertainers before being performers, all work resolutely and comfortably within the realm of modern expectations and allowances. They are not allowed to sing and to perform and be successful on the meta-scale of 21st century achievement at the same time. The real purpose and essence of performance is emotion, to convey emotion, whether through open expression of actual subjective inner feelings or through method immersion, artistic and stylist remove. Often the two are closely linked (always, should we view the world as non-dualistic, which I’m favouring more and more) and difficult to distinguish. Cobain’s animalistic holler or Buckley’s looping vocal arc, Tricky’s asthmatic growl or Morrissey’s mannered anguish, would I state the former in each duality as subjective catharsis and the latter as stylised method? Possibly, but the end result is the same; the conveyance of emotion through performance. It is the antithesis of the production of the semblance of emotion through entertainment, which is where the line is drawn between those who are vocalists who entertain and those who are singers who perform, those possessed of character and artistic awareness be it studied or innate, from Louis Armstrong to Nina Simone to Tim Buckley to Kate Bush to Mark Hollis to Bjork. Singers who use their voices as instruments, who realise the potential scope and range of the voice, who imbue it with character whether by necessity or by choice, from the wild to the mannered."

It's very much unformed and just an excuse for a rant really, but I'm thinkign that this touches ont eh area we were discussign yesterday with tom vis a vis ballads. Is there something uncomfortably near to schadenfreude in an overtly emotional display of emotion? Why are some displays more acceptable than others? Why are some mannered semblances more acceptable than others, ie; Beth Gibbons croaking like a dying old woman more acceptable than Mariah squawking like a wronged bitch?

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:19 (twenty-three years ago)

reminds me of a spolit child who dismisses something as boring just because its not garishly coloured, energetic or uncomplicated.

That'd be me. I'm willing to go on record and defend something like that. Here's a list of things I think make music interesting :

- garish colour

- energy

- good choon

- weird

- spooky / scary

- excessively noisy

- excessively quiet

- sad

- happy

- funny

- angry

Really, there's so much music around with these qualities, there really isn't a need to listen to music that lacks them, just because it has one of the following qualities :

- technical competence

- musicianly competence

- fine production values

- subtlety

- sheen

- genre similarity to other good music

― phil jones (interstar), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Mariah's never angry, for starters...i really could never trace the correct emotion on her voice though. oh in this song she's happy because she's found new love...oh in this song she's sad because she's had her heart broken...but she sings both songs in the same way it would seem, at least her voice sounds just the same in both.

the range of emotion is more recognisable with Beth Gibbons. yes you could say she sings all her songs the same way too i guess (well you get the distinction between melancholic poignancy and bitter anguish at least!), but i defy you to say that 'NOBODY LOVES MEEEEHHHH!' doesnt dwarf Carey's attempts (was she even trying though?) at genuine pain...it just seems REALER to me. i could probably demonstrate this better though to be honest.

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:34 (twenty-three years ago)

i dont think Goldfrapp, Zero 7 or Royksopp lack ALL of the things you think make music interesting phil

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Is it that we (as msuic lovers) can get past the aesthetic qualities (of Portishead) which might put of Mariah fans who are just after a syrupy instant hit of non-confrontational emotion, and find in Beth Gibbons (say) a more cathartic and worthy experience (for us)? Is that snobbish? And if so, is it OK?

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I guess one of the problems identifying real emotion in Goldfrapp's work is the obscurity of the lyrics. Like Mariah, we can't tell whether she's meant to be happy or sad because the lyrics don't clue us in as to whether this is a happy or sad song.

― phil jones (interstar), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:39 (twenty-three years ago)

i dont think Goldfrapp, Zero 7 or Royksopp lack ALL of the things you think make music interesting phil

No, Royksopp (which is the only one that I'm listening to a lot) has good choons. That I can whistle!

― phil jones (interstar), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:40 (twenty-three years ago)

(Actually, of course, I can whistle bits of Felt Mountain too :-)

― phil jones (interstar), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Is Alison intending her work to be deeply emotional though, or does she derive a more aesthetic satisfaction from it? ie; art vs catharsis? Can we have cARTharsis? (I have a CARTharsis hoody, it's dead warm!)

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Steve - I can kind of see where your coming from, and the word "dull" does wind me up when used on message boards because the majority of the time its never actually qualified. Still, I get the feeling that a lot of people don't solely use the term for chilled stuff, its used when people think that a song or an artist is taking a particularly obvious route to an emotional response (see also Toploader, Ocean Colour Scene, Morcheeba, Coldplay, Zero 7 etc).

I suppose this criticism could be applied to Goldfrapp as well, but I think that her best tracks and the sheer presence of her voice transcend that. An artist doing something 'obvious' doesn't particularly bother me if they do it well enough.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Like Mariah, we can't tell whether she's meant to be happy or sad because the lyrics don't clue us in as to whether this is a happy or sad song.

Why can't it be both?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:45 (twenty-three years ago)

i recall alison goldfrapp reviewing the singles for music she was miserable and hated absolutely everything they played her. this put me off ever wanting to hear her music. actually, i have heard 'utopia' and couldn't decide what i thought about it.

― michael wells (michael w.), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Matter + anti-matter = BANG!

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Matt DC on the Mon-E...

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:51 (twenty-three years ago)

'Utopia' is great, check out the Tom Middleton mix of it too

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:51 (twenty-three years ago)

tom middleton did a mix?! must hear this!

― michael wells (michael w.), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:54 (twenty-three years ago)

On the other hand, I think that the criticism that she is almost certainly capable of doing much, much better than anything on Felt Mountain is also OTM.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:55 (twenty-three years ago)

True.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:56 (twenty-three years ago)

what do you think of her live cover of Olivia Newton John's 'Physical'? wry pastiche or contrived sarcasm?

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 16 January 2003 12:11 (twenty-three years ago)

I have a live bootleg from the last Goldfrapp tour and there's one new track on there - and it's amazing. Similar to the other stuff, but more cinematic.
Anyone heard their version of Olivia's 'Physical'?!?! Brought the house down.
I haven't seen a better live band in many a year - since the Cocteau Twins maybe. She is pretty rude, though. A friend of mine saw her by the bar afterwards (Bristol's Fleece and Firkin)and said what a great show it was.... Alison Goldfrapp sneered and turned away.
But forgetting her rudeness, she's an amazing performer.
The video for 'Human' - superb.... where she plays a voyeuristic maid watching an orgy from the cupboard of a hotel room. Weird.

Dull...well, it's not really a word that can be associated with Goldfrapp really, is it?

'Deer Stop'.... how amazing is this track?

― russ t, Thursday, 16 January 2003 12:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Just listening to FM again ... and I stand by my frustration.

It is BRILLIANT ... and yet I still don't think I'll listen to it again in a hurry.

And I can't understand why not on any checklist of criteria (innovative, beautiful, interesting mix of instruments, powerful voice,
weird sounds etc.) What's WRONG with it?

Except it lacks that something ...

― phil jones (interstar), Thursday, 16 January 2003 13:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Phil,
maybe a combination of: overuse on adverts, not being in the right frame of mind.... and it's a winter album... can't see me playing it much on sunny days. It's a mood record, I suppose.
I think you need to see them live to fully appreciate the album, though.... her voice is just stunning.

― russ t, Thursday, 16 January 2003 13:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Re:the dull thing.

Personally I do dislike alot of the stuff being mentioned and I guess the reason it seems dull is that while it's pleasant to listen to I can never imagine loving it, or really wanting to put it on. I think Massive Attack et al are something my generation just have no use for, I mean I probably used to pay them lip service but I heard alot of their stuff in a relative's over Christmas and it really just didn't work for me at all. I have absolutely no interest in what they're doing now. I have no doubt people find alot of the house stuff I like just as dull and throwaway as Massive Attack et al, and I do mean people who are into dance music aswell.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 16 January 2003 14:55 (twenty-three years ago)

I guess I'm trying to ask if people agree that there is a different way of liking the type of music being discussed here than uptempo pop or hiphop or house or even rock I guess, I'm just not sure what that way is.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 16 January 2003 14:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Synaesthesia/sublimation - ie; not just listening to stuff because you wanna dance/sing to/along with it. I guess you listen to stuff because you enjoy it, but HOW you enjoy it (dancing/singing/chilling/admiring/ is a different matter.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 16 January 2003 15:08 (twenty-three years ago)

thats weird to think about Massive Attack and (presumably) DJ Shadow and others having much less relevance/purpose to people who are 18 now. if those artists fulfilled a particular niche for me when I was 18 then what fills that niche now? i'm sure there's still a lot of 18 year olds out there who like them...then again, it seems the majority are either tooting horns for THE bands and new wave punk or new wave electro/techno/house or hip hop and urban pop...none of those were as strong as they are now in the late 90s when Massive Attack and DJ Shadow were at their heights.

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 16 January 2003 15:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah it's strange, I don't hate Massive Attack really and I don't hate DJ Shadow either, I just don't see any reason to bother with them.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 16 January 2003 15:35 (twenty-three years ago)

I expected a few brief quips when I saw this thread! Anyway, I like 'em, saw them live, she's got a great voice, etc.

― Sean (Sean), Thursday, 16 January 2003 15:46 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm sure thats a good thing...somehow. i never wanted to bother with anything from before i was born, and i still dont generally...i could attempt to rationalise that...as good as the awesome legacy is between 1950 and 1978 i find most of it doesnt have a lot of meaning for ME....not quite the same scenario but perhaps there's a connection

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 16 January 2003 15:46 (twenty-three years ago)

and it's a winter album... can't see me playing it much on sunny days.

Ahhhh .... then I guess mid-summer in sub-tropical Brazil ain't the best place to be trying to re-evaluate it then .. ;-)

― phil jones (interstar), Thursday, 16 January 2003 15:56 (twenty-three years ago)

I agree, it's interesting, me and Gareth were talking about this and he made the point that despite saying this one still does listen to some older stuff which did grab you at the time, through brother's influence or whatever. I mean the likes of Underworld are as old as Massive Attack and yet I do listen to them so I suppose it's still a taste thing too.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 16 January 2003 15:58 (twenty-three years ago)

I expected a few brief quips when I saw this thread!

Yeah, same here! For a 'dull' artist the passions have been aroused. ;-)

Maybe a further listen will help. If it is a winter album, now is the time.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 January 2003 16:20 (twenty-three years ago)

That's actually one of the complaints I had against FM when it first came out, that Alison's lyrics were scrutable, a huge disappointment since in my mind I see her as a disciple of Liz Fraser. Take Pumpkin. It took me a couple years to realize that her opening sounds were a real word, and the aura of not knowing what she was saying created a hazy mystique that fed very well into a space-diva image.

Yet her words being intelligible on FM, I nonetheless enjoy the absurdist lyrics.

I also expected its arrangment to be more ambient, taking Pumpkin and Dwr Budr as references for my expectation, so to hear the pop (French or otherwise) was completely jarring. Live instruments? UGH. I want fakey synths and drum machines!

― Leee (Leee), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:58 (twenty-three years ago)

I love FELT MOUNTAIN -- apart from the irritating ooompah track, which always finds me scrambling frantically for the remote.

Her contributions to Tricky's MAXINQUAYE album are pretty great as well.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Would it be all right if I start a campaign to round up everyone who calls Lamb "just another trip-hop rip-off" and kick them in the nuts until they puke grape jam?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:07 (twenty-three years ago)

(Okay, maybe that was completely off-topic and unnecessarily aggro, but GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK saying that Lamb is a trip-hop rip-off indicates to me that you've never actually heard them, or have only heard a bad mix of "Gorecki".)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Thank you Dan.

― Leee (Leee), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Would it be all right if I start a campaign to round up everyone who calls Lamb "just another trip-hop rip-off" and kick them in the nuts until they puke grape jam?

shityeah! eedjits.

a. Lamb>Goldfrapp any fuckin' day of the week,

and b. as long as the campaign contains as much content that makes me laugh as much as that "grape jam" thing did, count me in...

― Charlie (Charlie), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Dan : OK ... Mea Culpa ... I admit the Lamb thing was lazy and uninformed. What should I check out by them that's good?

― phil jones (interstar), Friday, 17 January 2003 18:20 (twenty-three years ago)

I really adore the first two albums. Indivdual songs that you should check out would include "Lusty", "God Bless", "Cotton Wool" (album version), "Gold", "Gorecki", "Feela", "Zero", "Little Things", "B-Line", "Alien", "Ear Parcel", "Softly", "Bonfire", "All In Your Hands" and "Fly".

The dispute I have with the "trip-hop rip-off" label is that at most only about 30% of their songs could be described as trip-hop; most of their stuff floats from ambient to jazz to spacey drum-n-bass. Also, most of the songs that one could call "trip-hop" are denser and more bombastic than their contemporaries.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 17 January 2003 18:35 (twenty-three years ago)

four months pass...

So, what's the verdict on the new album then? I quite liked Felt Mountain, though I gather the new one is very different. Your thoughts?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 May 2003 21:29 (twenty-three years ago)

i like it - contemporary synth-pop but not particularly retro at all, more sexed up and upbeat than 'Felt Mountain' - 'Hairy Trees' and 'Tiptoe' are my favourite tracks on it

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 22 May 2003 21:42 (twenty-three years ago)

I have seen a small room, painted orange, literally filled with advertising creatives frantically masturbating to this music.

I quite liked Felt Mountain, too.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 22 May 2003 21:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Love the new one!! Keeps the old stuff and adds lots of amazing sexy new stuff.

― Sean (Sean), Thursday, 22 May 2003 23:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Anyone else seing significant best-band-ever-era Associates parallels? It's not that the new album's that good, but it's the kind of album I could imagine Rankine and Mackenzie making this year, if it had been possible.

― Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 22 May 2003 23:46 (twenty-three years ago)

in with the old - it's gold
out with the new - it's pee-you

― j.a.e., Friday, 23 May 2003 01:31 (twenty-three years ago)

It seems like they've found there feet now. They sound a lot less derivative than previously.

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Friday, 23 May 2003 01:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Lynskey - Black Cherry not derivative? Stock up on some AddNToX CDs - it's unbelievably derivative.

I still think Black Cherry's the most disappointing follow-up-to-a-great-debut I can remember.

They're playing Bristol tonight - I have a ticket but I can't be bothered - seen them twice and they were awesome.... but I've no desire to hear this ugly, clumpy album live.

― russ t, Friday, 23 May 2003 08:04 (twenty-three years ago)

The cover alone is enought to put me off.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 23 May 2003 08:08 (twenty-three years ago)

...possibly the worst album cover ever? Surely one of them....

― russ t, Friday, 23 May 2003 08:15 (twenty-three years ago)

b-but its REAL photo-montage

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 23 May 2003 08:40 (twenty-three years ago)

....and she looks a right arsehole in the photos.

'Mazing what a mess you can get in with a bag of photos, a scissors and aPritt stick....

― russ t, Friday, 23 May 2003 09:32 (twenty-three years ago)

they're ok, the new single is better than the old stoner shite.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 23 May 2003 09:40 (twenty-three years ago)

I said "a lot less", I didn't say "not".

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Friday, 23 May 2003 13:54 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm not sure I was emphatic enough; Black Cherry is one of my favorite albums of the year so far.

― Sean (Sean), Saturday, 24 May 2003 00:09 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...

So does anyone listen to either album anymore?

I decided to give Felt Mountain a spin for the first time in two years and once again it's just incredibly...there. Absolutely no connection with it either positively or negatively, it started and then it ended. The cover of "Physical" and the remixes on the 'special edition' are all much more interesting to me.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Black Cherry and all the remixes, is still quite there for me - as in I love it. I also find her very attractive.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Wonder if she's working on a new one.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I still like Black Cherry a lot. Also the We Are Glitter mix of "Strict Machine" that emerged late last year suggests they might be going even rockier.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 10:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Black Cherry and don't understand why it gets so much hate!

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i haven't listened to the first album for a while but then i haven't listened to Human After All for a couple of weeks now either... i still rate 'Felt Mountain' a lot tho, and 'Black Cherry' even more.

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I've found that the stronger tracks are still just as strong, from both albums, while I've pretty much forgotten the weaker ones. Black Cherry is still great.

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd search her black air hostess outfit and her cookery session with Simon Amstell. I'd destroy lots of Felt Mountain.

― Deerninja B4rim4, Plus-Tech Whizz Kid (Barima), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

don't get the hate - spent a lot of energy on ILM a long time ago deflecting accusations of 'blandness' and 'boredom' tho, never again!

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

"We like lots of the same stuff but disagree etc etc"

― Deerninja B4rim4, Plus-Tech Whizz Kid (Barima), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I over-played both albums, so am now going through that refractory period where I actively avoid listening to them. She's a fantastic live singer/performer; my whole perception of both the first and the second albums changed after seeing them performed.

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

yeh, can't recommend live show enough

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Loved Felt Mountain at the time, quite liked Black Cherry for a while. I doubt I'd be much interested in listening to more than 3 or 4 songs from Felt Mountain now (although one or two of those are very fine). The title track is probably the only one from Black Cherry I'd still be pleased to hear coming on the radio, and I'm still surprised there isn't more love for it. I'm guessing it got filed under formulaic chill-out by many but it's subtler and more delicate than that, glacial and lovely. I wasn't convinced by the rockier stuff on Black Cherry and looking back it seems an obvious dead end. I think that's their problem: no-one now would be interested in Felt Mountain 2 and I doubt there's much more mileage to be got out of the Bolan-with-synths stuff either. They need to find a radical change of direction to stay in the game and somehow I doubt they will.

― frankiemachine, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

'Pilots' is still best Barry-oke ever!

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

They need to find a radical change of direction to stay in the game and somehow I doubt they will.

Could go more Bjorkey, commercial success becoming less of a concern, I don't expect a new record for at least another year tho

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I'm repeating myself from another thread, but I really I think they should go further in the direction of their "Physical" "Yes Sir I Can Boogie" covers: distracted, icy art-disco. Like Madonna's "Music" but good!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahah, brilliant comparison there. :-) (The "Physical" cover almost literally woke me up when I heard it yesterday, it was that jarringly good.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

you were asleep when you heard it?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Like Madonna's "Music" but good!

!!!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I should have said "really good" actually, as the way I phrased it makes it sound like "Music" is actively bad, which it's not. Just kinda underwhelming (Kylie's better at post-French House stuff - actually "Love Affair" is another reference point for disco-Goldfrapp).

Next song for Goldfrapp to cover in slow, robo-diva stylee: Whitney Houston's "I'm Your Baby".

Although the Girls On Top bootleg of Whitney's "I Wanna Dance With Somebody" over Kraftwerk's "Numbers" may have beaten them to the punch, conceptually and sonically.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

you were asleep when you heard it?

The Felt Mountain relisten had flatlined my expectations.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

haha Tim i've been listening to a schaffel-y version (tho perhaps more along the line of Jaxx 'All I Know' beat-wise) of 'I'm Your Baby Tonight' in my own head for weeks now. if only it actually existed...

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

If there's any more mileage to be got out of Donna Summer meets Kate Bush blueprint tho (and i'm pretty sure there is) then she should go for that.

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

"I think they should go further in the direction of their "Physical" "Yes Sir I Can Boogie" covers: distracted, icy art-disco."

Seeing a clip of Goldfrapp doing "Yes sir I can boogie" live gave me an intense and unexpected flashback on the Sisters of Mercy.

― Soukesian, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

The new album is out August 22nd. The first single is called "Ooh La La" and is supposedly very 'glam rock inspired'.. whatever that means.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

More schaffel! (I do like the sound of that, maybe the secret is that she just always needs lotsa beats.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

The album is going to be called "Ooh La La" as well. Here is the press release:

09-05-2005
new single and new live dates!
Goldfrapp release their brand new single ‘Ooh La La’ on 8th August 2005 on Mute. This is followed by their new album, also called ‘Ooh La La’, released on 22nd August 2005

Described by Alison as “sulky, sexual and a bit ambiguous”, the single ‘Ooh La La’ is a thrilling slab of glam-noir. Vibrant and visceral, the track is pure excitement and tension, delivered with the downright dirty insouciance that we have come to expect of Britain’s most captivating act.

Co-written and co-produced by Alison and Will, ‘Ooh La La’ comes accompanied by an appropriately electrifying glam fantasy video courtesy of uber-director Dawn Shadforth that Alison describes as ‘harking back to Eno era Roxy Music and old Top of the Pops’- see it here very soon!

Their third album follows their Mercury Prize nominated debut release ‘Felt Mountain’ in 2000 and 2003’s ‘Black Cherry’. “We’ve made an electronic, glam cross between Berlin, New York and north-east Somerset.” explains Alison. The new album is the sound of Goldfrapp breaking through their own crash barrier - a strident, psychedelic, 100% uncompromising creative force at the top of their very own game.

Following on from their show stopping performance at Glastonbury last summer Goldfrapp will also be bringing back their visually astounding live show when they tour this Autumn. Already confirmed are two dates in London and Manchester with further announcements to follow soon:

October 6 Brixton Academy
Tickets available from: Venue – 08700 600 100 – credit Card Hotline 020 7287 0932 – Stargreen 020 7734 8932 – See 020 7403 3331 www.gigsandtours.com

October 8 Manchester Academy
Venue - 0161 832 1111 - 24hr cc hotline - 0871 2200 260
On-line - www.gigsandtours.com
Tickets are priced £15.

Ahead of these dates Goldfrapp will also be playing several UK and European festivals in the summer including V2005, Creamfields Spain, Pukklepop in Belgium, Rock en Seine in Paris and Electric Picnic in Dublin

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 9 May 2005 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Add N to (X) derivative?!? You, my good sir, get the gasface.

― angelo flores (flores), Monday, 9 May 2005 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, okay, maybe not the full gasface; the last two albums were terrible, with the notable exception of the video with the girls and the sex machine.

But, Avant Hard and On the Wires of Our Nerves is teh sex!

― angelo flores (flores), Monday, 9 May 2005 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

From the description above my prediction/wish that the next Goldfrapp album would follow on from their "Yes Sir I Can Boogie" cover appears likely to be confirmed.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 9 May 2005 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

That's such an awesome cover.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 9 May 2005 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Coincidentally, I picked up the (unexpanded?) Felt Mountain for AU$4.95 last night, and "Oompah Radar" now feels like a highlight! Do waltzes upset latent rockists?

― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Eh? Wasn't much of Black Cherry -- specifically "Twist" and "Strict Machine" -- already electro-glam-rock?

― brittle-lemon, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The new record is called "Supernature" now. You can hear a clip of the new single, "Ooh La La," here:

http://www.goldfrapp.co.uk/supernature/

I like it.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 23 May 2005 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't.

― $V£N! (blueski), Monday, 23 May 2005 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Why? Because it sounds like a sped-up "Strict Machine?" :p

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 23 May 2005 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Breathy Suicide/T.Rex pastiche sounds great to me.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 23 May 2005 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's a direct link:

http://www.goldfrapp.co.uk/supernature/oohlala.mp3

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 23 May 2005 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

If the actual "ooh la la" bit there is the chorus then it maybe doesn't go sufficiently UP.

But then "Train" was the weakest Black Cherry single, probably.

― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 23 May 2005 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I like 'Train' a lot but 'Ooh La La' doesn't do it for me because it doesn't seem to be doing anything that the electro-shuffle on 'Black Cherry' already did, and it doesn't seem to be offering anything beyond that. Seems a bit 'lazy' on first listen (and not in the good way).

― $V£N! (blueski), Monday, 23 May 2005 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I had been led to believe that it was going to be "Tiger Feet" pretty much. So this does seem a bit lazy and underwhelming in comparison, yeah. Though initial judgements based on snippets usually result in retractions galore, once I have heard the Thing in whole.

I think I wanted her to go 'more guitars'. Which is not something I usually want.

― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 23 May 2005 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Popjustice is saying that Supernature is the best album of the year so far.

― daavid (daavid), Friday, 27 May 2005 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.popjustice.co.uk/images/amazinggoldfrapppicture.jpg

!!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd hit it.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

And I doubt it's better than The Woods. Nothing is.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

aw this talk of new stuff is getting me excited again! black cherry ended up being my album of 2003, woot. and i just noticed i started this thread as well! aw.

odd that i never mentioned interviewing Will Gregory just before the album came out. Here it is, if anyone's bored of a Friday evening.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

somewhat if a D for me. i've liked some of her stuff but a lot of it seems extremely corny and in general had no edge...maybe just not enough masculine energy for me???

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 27 May 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

http://www.goldfrapp.co.uk/supernature/img/oohlalacdcover.jpg

She's so gorgeous.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

she's good looking but she isn't gorgeous.

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

What's the difference?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

She has gorgeous/good looking hair....very 'Allo 'Allo.
That's the first picture where I've clearly seen her face
she always seemed as if she was hiding part of it.

― JohnFoxxsJuno, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

has this fucker leaked yet?

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

What's the difference?

celebrity?

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I think she is sexy.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, you think everyone is sexy these days!

(p.s. she is.)

― strng hlkngtn, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

"Ooh La La" :

http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0U7GHH5LEUW7R1NR9ACLYWCXOW

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Saturday, 18 June 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

thanks
good stuff
but not amazing
half a millon on the first cd?
insane

i would have never guessed
girls got what it takes I guess

― zach, Saturday, 18 June 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

Thanks a lot Brainwasher

― snowballing (snowballing), Saturday, 18 June 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

Which famous glam song are they referencing with the synth bass?

― Negativa, True Believer (Sheryl Crow in a Britney costume) (Barima), Saturday, 18 June 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

Norman Greenbaum's "Spirit In the Sky" ?

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Saturday, 18 June 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

(xpost) Your welcome

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Saturday, 18 June 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

That's it.

― Negativa, True Believer (Sheryl Crow in a Britney costume) (Barima), Saturday, 18 June 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

That pic is so photoshopped that she looks computer generated.

The cover looks like it's deliberated designed to look out of date five minutes after release. Scrub that it looks out of date now - like something Kelly Osbourne would do.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 18 June 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)

i'm not much bothered about goldfrapp but i am SO feelin' jacques lu cont's remix of "twist" right now

― joseph (joseph), Saturday, 18 June 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/ameraaal/supernature.jpg

you can here samples here:

http://www.goldfrapp.co.uk/supernature/

Sounds great. "Satin Chic" sounds like the standout to me.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 1 July 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

oh no is it a cerrone cover??

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 1 July 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)

haha, no. It's not an album of Cerrone covers.

Here's a file with all of the samples compiled:

http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3K3Q7394IED9Y2GBYJO8GX5SAB

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 1 July 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

well the cover art is better than the last one!

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 1 July 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)

fucking leak already, dammit.

― william, it was really nothing (superpopelectro), Friday, 1 July 2005 23:19 (twenty years ago)

i'm not impressed with 'ooh la la', but the rest of that sampler sounds great. i'm still liking 'black cherry' more and more each time i put it on.

― derrick (derrick), Friday, 1 July 2005 23:24 (twenty years ago)

It sounds really good. Popjustice was right.

― daavid (daavid), Saturday, 2 July 2005 00:45 (twenty years ago)

"Satin Chic" seconded (although the damn clip is to short) and "Time Out" sounds amazing!

― daavid (daavid), Saturday, 2 July 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)

"Oh La La" is really not that great (compared to the rest anyway). I wonder who/why they chose it as a first single.

― daavid (daavid), Saturday, 2 July 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)

record got pushed til february '06 for the US, just by the way...

― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Saturday, 2 July 2005 01:27 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that sucks. I'll have to import it I guess.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

she looks a bit like carol kane.

― keith m (keithmcl), Sunday, 3 July 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

The single's leaked. Not a radio rip, but straight from the promo CD. Though I don't know why the guy couldn't have ripped it at 192 instead of 128...

http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=12O54067CAKJA2OBWZM5907LDQ

Great stuff.

― a. begrand (a begrand), Sunday, 3 July 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

― william, it was really nothing (superpopelectro), Sunday, 3 July 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

the video is out as well

http://blackcherrytv5.free.fr/oohlala/ooh_la_la_goldfrapp.wmv

― manuel (manuel), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 03:39 (twenty years ago)

I saw the video on Popworld on Sunday and it was the best thing ever.

She makes me happier and happier. Maybe this time I will buy the album instead of just picking up the singles.

― MIS Information (kate), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 06:46 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

listening to felt mountain for the first time in ages. yes, i always thought it was dull in that intangible, can't-put-my-finger-on-it kind of way. but 'utopia' really is a firecracker of a song. i'd forgotten how sublime it sounds.

― Charlie Howard, Saturday, 16 June 2007 06:15 (nineteen years ago)

And "Horse Tears" is still beautiful. :-)

― Turangalila, Saturday, 16 June 2007 08:55 (nineteen years ago)

And I still haven't survived from my interview with her.

― nathalie, Saturday, 16 June 2007 09:46 (nineteen years ago)

hee. sorry to hear that.

― Turangalila, Saturday, 16 June 2007 10:14 (nineteen years ago)

five months pass...

new album is amazing

― cutty, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

felt mountainy?

― blueski, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

new thread surely?

― pisces, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

it's more like felt mountain than the others, but it still has a lot of pretty pop melodies. it has more of a mid-60s vibe than anything else they've done. people love the 60's, don't they?

― akm, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

wouldn't wanna live there

― blueski, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

I was hoping this was gonna be their 'Twin Peaks' album.

― baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 09:07 (eighteen years ago)

didn't want to be the one to start the new thread because i don't have much to say except i really like the new one. very minimal, sparse, arrangements, very nice...

― cutty, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 11:50 (eighteen years ago)

it's totally not what i expected!

it sounds like a gauzy, summery 60s album so far

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 12:37 (eighteen years ago)

bad form alert: where are you getting these fresh new recordings these days?

― blueski, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

im wondering the same, stmusic turned out to be a washout.

― s.rose, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 13:36 (eighteen years ago)

didn't get random waffles invite yet :(

― blueski, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

Another amazing album. Goldfrapp are one of the few artists where I listen to the album all the way through.

― Spencer Chow, Friday, 14 December 2007 23:47 (eighteen years ago)

a&e is sooooo good

― cutty, Saturday, 15 December 2007 00:47 (eighteen years ago)

title?

― baaderonixx, Saturday, 15 December 2007 02:40 (eighteen years ago)

Seventh Tree

― Spencer Chow, Saturday, 15 December 2007 03:07 (eighteen years ago)

is the rest of Black Cherry as good as "Strict Machine"? (which I only know courtesy of Miami Vice)

― milo z, Saturday, 15 December 2007 04:18 (eighteen years ago)

yes

― cutty, Saturday, 15 December 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

four years pass...

'The singles' deluxe box edition

To coincide with the release of 'the singles' collection, Goldfrapp will release a special deluxe limited edition. The deluxe edition features a 12 inch, circular, lift-off lid, rigid box edged in black velvet.

Two pieces of 180gsm 12 inch vinyl containing the album and a collection of the band's b-sides. This will be the only pressing on vinyl and is unique to this edition. A previously unreleased track, exclusive to this edition. The edition houses 11 rare and specially created images from the band's visual archive. An individually numbered certificate signed by Alison and Will.

Product specifications:
Box
- a 12 inch diameter, circular, lift off lid, rigid box edged in black velvet, lined with black with full colour print to lid and base.

Inserts
- the 6 inserts are 300mm in diameter, printed full colour to both faces and gloss varnished. The insert panels are printed on 400gsm coated card stock and are edge gilded in black.

Interleaving panels
- the three interleaving panels are 300mm in diameter and foil blocked to one face with a common design.

Certificate

The certificate is single colour printed on 300gsm uncoated art board. Each certificate is individually numbered and signed. Access to the contents is by means of a black satin ribbon pull.
-

Yours for £99.99!

http://www.goldfrapp.com/

― piscesx, Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:21 (fourteen years ago)

oh for fucks sake

― akm, Friday, 3 February 2012 00:08 (fourteen years ago)

I quite like Goldfrapp but come the fuck on. Not even Liberace would package an album like that.

― quad octets or death! (snoball), Friday, 3 February 2012 00:42 (fourteen years ago)

tbh i can't blame any band for rinsing whatever obsessive, wealthy fans they might have these days

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 3 February 2012 12:06 (fourteen years ago)

i mean yeah £99.99 is a bit lol but it's not like the music isn't being downloaded for free every day - overpriced live tickets are far more egregious imo

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 3 February 2012 12:08 (fourteen years ago)

It's the same problem I had with the deluxe vinyl release of Bowie's 'Station To Station' (although that package had even more bumpf in the form of extra tracks that you'd only be interested in hearing if you were on as much cocaine as DB was at the time).
Heavyweight vinyl. Fine.
Bonus tracks that only appear on the LP version. Fine.
A bit of velvet, pics of Alison and Will looking grumpy, and what sounds like one of Dame Barbara Cartland's hat boxes? No. Thanks.

― quad octets or death! (snoball), Friday, 3 February 2012 12:47 (fourteen years ago)

By coincidence I just jumped from the 2 Bears thread to this and was wondering whether the former's deluxe box set (with tea towel and ping pong bats) was supposed to be a joke at the expense of the ludicrousness of everything coming in a deluxe box.

― djh, Friday, 3 February 2012 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

If I was ever successful enough to have a 'singles/greatest hits' collection then I'd include a kitchen sink in the deluxe edition. Then I'd retire.

― give me crack and polyfilla (snoball), Friday, 3 February 2012 20:54 (fourteen years ago)

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9L0jD35TKI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_exjjrVCws

― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 30 June 2014 23:00 (eleven years ago)

That Strict Machine performance is fantastic.

― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 1 July 2014 00:17 (eleven years ago)

two years pass...

Essential b-sides: "White Soft Rope" and Pale 3 feat. Goldfrapp - "Bodo".

― Ross, Friday, 25 November 2016 23:54 (nine years ago)

periodic reminder that tales of us is a masterpiece

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 26 November 2016 00:36 (nine years ago)

I just played Tales Of Us last week. It really is a stunning record that's perfect for this time of year. I'm more than ready for a follow up.

― Kitchen Person, Saturday, 26 November 2016 05:19 (nine years ago)

true say, still one of my favourite albums this century.

btw all of the 5 films that were made to accompany 'Tales.. ' are on YouTube on GoldfrappTV and are very lovely. Originally they were a mini-movie (shown only once on a big screen and for some reason never released as a separate film on DVD).

to replicate the experience of the film, the clips should be watched in this order; Stranger, Laurel, Jo, Drew and Annabel.
it's worth doing if you like the record!

http://www.youtube.com/user/GoldfrappTV

― piscesx, Saturday, 26 November 2016 11:14 (nine years ago)

I hope their next one is a synthpop record a la Supernature

― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Saturday, 26 November 2016 12:37 (nine years ago)

I tried to write about the minimovie, failed

― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 26 November 2016 21:34 (nine years ago)

one year passes...

the collab with dave gahan was pretty cool

― Ross, Thursday, 13 September 2018 18:48 (seven years ago)

four years pass...

Cannot muster any enthusiasm for this solo album. First single is utterly forgettable

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 17 April 2023 07:08 (three years ago)

trying to explain the difference between "Goldfrapp" and "Alison Goldfrapp" is going to be a fun few weeks

― boxedjoy, Monday, 17 April 2023 07:37 (three years ago)

New single does remind me of 'Somewhere Near Marseilles'

― nashwan, Monday, 17 April 2023 10:21 (three years ago)

Came here to say how pleasant I found So Hot So Hard (even if the first seconds soound like a McCartney sample) despite never really being a big fan of Goldfrapp.

Probably because it’s more dancefloor friendly than the band ever was and more my thing.

― Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 22 April 2023 18:08 (three years ago)

I'd missed that this was happening, but listening now it sounds like the goal here is to be Róisín Murphy with none of the risk or effort.

― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 22 April 2023 19:11 (three years ago)

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