1. Mercy Street2. Blood Of Eden3. Love To Be Loved4. Don't Give Up5. No Way Out6. No Self Control7. The Family And The Fishing Net8. Come Talk To Me9. Sky Blue10.The Barry Williams Show
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 08:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
not much to say about any of these - dont have any PG albums, suppose i am now just curious as to why Geir doesnt like Games Without Frontiers, Big Time or indeed Sledgehammer really. i think i've always liked the 'yuppie nightclub' aspect of Steam and Big Time especially...
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 09:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
I like them (you may add "Steam" too), but I like them less than these 10. For the same reasons why I like 70s Genesis better than 80s Genesis. They are less "proggy" than the best of Gabriel's output.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 09:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― cecilia, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 13:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
-Down the Dolce Vita-Mother of Violence-White Shadow-San Jacinto (don't have albums 3 and 4 yet (nor Birdy & Passion & Ovo & Long Walk Home) so only know some songs from the live album, can't name much more)-Mercy Street-Love To Be Loved-Blood Of Eden-Digging In The Dirt-Secret World-The entire Up album (yeah, this is cheating... what can I say, the album is amazing and EVERY track on it blows me away!)
― Tijn, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 13:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― s woods, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 13:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
Big Time [I love ambition songs]Shock The MonkeyIn Your Eyes [I'm a sucker for when he pointlessly peppers a song with African chanting]SteamCome Talk To Me [see comment for "In Your Eyes"]Sledgehammer [possibly the fruitiest Power Of My Dick song ever. Rob Sheffield hates it for one of the reasons I love it..."this will be my testimony."]Red Rain [anybody see the hellish version of this with Natalie Merchant and Michael Stipe?]Digging In The DirtDon't Give Up Family Portrait
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 15:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 19:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 19:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
Up is probably tied with Prefab Sprout'sAndromeda Heights for my "Heros Become Weak" award -- biggest disappointment from someone I once thought could do no wrong. (At least w/PG there was a gradual decline already, whereas PF fell from a great height going from Jordan to Andromeda Heights.)
― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 19:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 21:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
1) San JacintoWithout a doubt for me the best thing he ever did.
2) Rhythm of the HeatEffectively creepy ("smash the camera, smash the watch"). Heart of Darkness-type songs always get bonus points with me.
3) HumdrumBeautiful and fluid.
4) Moribund the BurgermeisterLyrics could be better (actually, the lyrics on that whole album are generally pretty bad), and the hammy Genesis singing. However, for pure weirdness, the 'fanfare' break in the chorus, and the Jabba the Hut-like "mother...you know your son" line at the end.
5) Here Comes the FloodThe version on Fripp's Exposure, with the J.G. Bennett intro. Accept no substitute.
― Joe (Joe), Thursday, 1 May 2003 01:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Thursday, 1 May 2003 01:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 1 May 2003 01:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
Here Comes The FloodOn The AirI Go SwimmingNot One Of UsBiko
I Have The TouchKiss Of LifeWallflowerThat Voice AgainMercy Street
Come Talk To MeDigging In The DirtSecret WorldNo Way OutMore Than This
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 16:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 16:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link
I remember an extended mix from a Sledgehammer 12" that had an extraordinarily haunting and beautiful intro that I can still remember even though I haven't listened to it since 1988.
Accepting all I've done and saidI want to stand and stare againTil there's nothing left out...Ohhh it remains there, in your eyesWhatever comes and goesI will hear your silent callAnd I will [fine, I can't remember this part, but it's been almost 20 years!]Until I know I'm home again.
It only goes downhill from there, which is to say, segues into the album track. I feel that I've heard it somewhere else as well, but I have no idea where. Did it ever make a CD release?
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:06 (nineteen years ago) link
love I get so lost, sometimesdays pass and this emptiness fills my heartwhen I want to run awayI drive off in my carbut whichever way I goI come back to the place you are
which at times I've felt was really nice ... however maybe just compared to rest of the track which is pretty fucking awful.
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link
Solsbury HillHumdrumNo Self ControlAnd Through The WireFamily SnapshotNot One Of UsSan JacintoWallflowerRed RainIn Your Eyes
I'm very curious about this Fripp version of Here Comes The Flood. Is it radically different than the debut album version?
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:26 (nineteen years ago) link
ahhhh, google...
― jeanne (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― jeanne (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link
My 10: 1. I Have the Touch 2. Digging In The Dirt3. Shock The Monkey4. Sledgehammer5. Mercy Street6. This Is The Picture (Excellent Birds)7. In Your Eyes 8. Come Talk To Me9. Blood Of Eden10. Oh, okay, I guess I'll say Solsbury Hill even though I think I've been overexposed to it to the point that I can't hear it very often
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link
[Q] I heard a really cool version of In Your Eyes. What was it?This one is frequently asked! It was probably one of these:
In Your Eyes [special mix] (7:14) - from various singles In Your Eyes [live] (8:45) - from Say Anything promo In Your Eyes [live] (9:32) - from Before Us promo
The two live versions are both edited from his PoV concert video. All of the above versions have extra lyrics.
[Q] So, what are these extra lyrics to In Your Eyes?These are the extra lyrics:
[at the beginning] Accepting all I've done and said I want to stand and stare again Til there's nothing left out, oh It remains there in your eyes Whatever comes and goes I will hear your silent call I will touch this tender wall Til I know I'm home again
[at the end]
Accepting all I've done and said I want to stand and stare again Til there's nothing left out, oh It remains there in your eyes Whatever comes and goes Oh, it's in your eyes
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link
And yeah, on "Here Comes The Flood" Fripp/Gabriel > Gabriel/Fripp
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:03 (nineteen years ago) link
i kinda lost interest in PG after SO but got the Hits compilation and am rally curious about his outside work. this site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Gabriel_discography lists a whole bunch of guest appearances and soundtrack songs. which ones are good? what would a PO10 of those look like?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 21 April 2009 23:58 (fifteen years ago) link
"Walk Through The Fire" is a pretty good song, if not particularly memorable. "I Go Swimming" is alright I guess, but I only know the version on Plays Live. I'm kindof interested in hearing the OVO album now since I discovered this wonderful song:
― Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 00:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Some of "Up" is great - the opening track "Darkness" is great, kicks you in the head after a quiet start. I love it. "Barry Williams Show" is shite though.
― one art, please (Trayce), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 00:45 (fifteen years ago) link
I'll resist telling my "Peter gave props directly to my bf for his Shock the Monkey remix" story for the 12398493th time.
― one art, please (Trayce), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 00:48 (fifteen years ago) link
as far as the soundtrack/guest stuff goes:
― butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 00:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Party Man is also pretty tight. the comments on this youtube homebrew are lol
― butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 00:55 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost there's one other Frasier / Buchanan track on Ovo called 'Make Tomorrow'. not as wonderful as 'Downside-Up', but glad I heard it, the rest of the album is pretty bland
Darkness (from 'Up') Digging In The Dirt (from 'Us') Bashi-Bazouk (from 'Digging In The Dirt' single) My Head Sounds Like That (from 'Up') Downside-Up (from 'Ovo', Elizabeth Frazier, vocals)
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 01:03 (fifteen years ago) link
BikoHere Comes The FloodI Have The TouchThe Rhythm Of The HeatGames Without FrontiersBig TimeIntruderSan JacintoI Don't RememberRed Rain
― we be to rap what ki be to s1oc (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 01:03 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost my post was strictly a post-So list. It's been years since I've needed to put on III or Security but I can still listen to the first two anytime
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 01:06 (fifteen years ago) link
I'll try and pick 10 tho I really need to give the older stuff a much closer listen
That Voice AgainDarknessDigging in the DirtRed RainMore than This (the Elbow remix version)Games without FrontiersWe do What We're ToldI Don't RememberDownside-Up
...and that thing he did with Liz Fraser on the Millenium concert, I forget what it's called :|
― one art, please (Trayce), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 01:31 (fifteen years ago) link
"I Grieve" is a lovely (if sentimental) song that always surprises me whenever I stumble across it. I also love the Massive Attack remix of "Games Without Frontiers." And most of "Up" is pretty dark, challenging stuff that I don't think he got credit for upon its release, probably because "Barry Williams Show" sucks so hard.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 03:14 (fifteen years ago) link
"I Grieve" is maybe a little less sentimental than you think... the bridge is pretty explicitly called out as a fantasy at the end.
Up is a flat-out amazing record if you just remove "Barry Williams"
The goldfish gets me every time.
― butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 03:20 (fifteen years ago) link
I guess the problem with BWS is it was meant to be some kind of pastiche of - was it televangelists? - and perhaps the stylistic choice was on purpose because of that but ick.
The "Growing Up" live DVD from that era is awesome, I love it when he does crazy wire work and things.
― one art, please (Trayce), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 03:29 (fifteen years ago) link
You mean the stuff about the dream? I'm not sure what to make of that. If he dreamed whatever loss he's singing about, then why does he need to grieve? Or was his dream that life carries on and on and on, and he's relieved that it does?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 03:31 (fifteen years ago) link
(x-post)
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 03:32 (fifteen years ago) link
@Josh my read's always been that the uptempo "life carries on everywhere in everything" break is undercut by as the song returns to its theme. and the "news that truly shocks" verse is pretty inspired lyricizin'
@Trayce less televangelists than jerry springer (et al)... but Springer was always already a parody of the po-faced Povich style, and was already on the wane well before Up finally came out, so it just has the feel of something that's been getting stale in the can too long. Guess he just felt he needed to throw something in that sounded like a single?
― butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 03:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Hmmm..
did i dream this belief?or did i believe this dream?now i can find reliefi grieve
I'd equally read that as asking "was their whole existence a dream?" and the relief thing being that they are at peace, maybe? Like, the death of an aging, very ill parent or somehting? I never really gave those lines thought in that way.
― one art, please (Trayce), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 04:22 (fifteen years ago) link
yes. it's ambivalent. negative capability and all that.
― butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 05:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Anyone remember the proposed virtual reality theme park Gabriel was going to build in Spain (I think?) with Laurie Anderson and Brian Eno?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 11:32 (fifteen years ago) link
big ideas
― cutty, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 12:01 (fifteen years ago) link
How did I never do this?
1. "I Have the Touch"2. "No Self-Control'3. "I Don't Remember"4. "Shock the Monkey"5. "Family Snapshot"6."Biko"7. "Mercy Street"8. "Digging in the Dirt"9. "Intruder"10. "Games Without Frontiers"
― Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 14:25 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm fond of "Love Town," maybe the last good song he wrote.
― I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 14:36 (fifteen years ago) link
top 10 PG songs (not counting shit from passion):
10) lead a normal life9) shock the monkey8) red rain7) here comes the flood6) dont give up <3 kate bush5) in your eyes4) games without frontiers3) biko2) mercy street1) solsbury hill
― max, Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:36 PM (6 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
top 10 tracks on passion:
10) wall of breath9) it is accomplished8) zaar7) lazarus raised6) of these, hope (reprise)5) sandstorm4) open3) a different drum2) bread and wine1) passion
― max, Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:42 PM (6 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link
i think i switched out shock the monkey for san jacinto later
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Could've sworn I'd done this.
10. Mother of Violence9. Here Comes the Flood8. San Jacinto7. Moribund the Burgermeister6. Solsbury Hill5. Not One of Us4. I Don't Remember3. Wallflower2. Family Snapshot1. Humdrum
― Ronmael de Canarias (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, I distinctly remember you doing this, Noodle. I think there was another thread I started along similar but more specific lines or something.
― Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Since everyone else forgot to include it.
1. "Sledgehammer"2. interest wanes
― Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 April 2009 04:07 (fifteen years ago) link
I loved "Sledgehammer" at the time, but it just hasn't aged well for me.
― Alex in NYC, Thursday, 23 April 2009 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link
I forgot to follow up on my original request. I went ahead and sifted through his post-"So" work and realized he's put out a wealth of one-off and compilation tracks. I reconfigured the otherwise good "Hit" best-of by removing the stuff up until "So" (because you should have it all anyway) and came up with this much improved version:
Disc 1:1. A Different Drum2. Here Comes The Flood (new version)3. Love To Be Loved4. Steam5. Washing Of The Water6. Lovetown7. I Have The Touch (Robbie Robertson mix)8. Father, Son9. The Tower That Ate People (Steve Osbourne mix)10. Cloudless11. Growing Up (Tom Lord-Alge mix)12. More Than This (radio edit)13. Signal To Noise14. The Drop15. Burn You Up, Burn You Down16. Downside Up (live)
Disc 2:1. Blood Of Eden (soundtrack mix)2. Summertime3. Party Man (with The Worldbeaters)4. Suzanne5. In The Sun6. I Grieve (soundtrack version)7. That'll Do8. Nocturnals9. When You're Falling (Afro Celt Sound System)10. Games Without Frontiers (with Massive Attack)11. Animal Nation12. Darkness13. The Book Of Love (soundtrack version)14. Down To Earth15. Whole Thing
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 28 June 2010 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Here's 25 of my favorites.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 October 2016 15:18 (seven years ago) link
that's a great selection
― akm, Saturday, 22 October 2016 15:42 (seven years ago) link
except it's 'walk through the fire'
Unless you meant 'And Through The Wire'
― MaresNest, Saturday, 22 October 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link
Does the opening of Kanye's Feedback off TLOP sample the creepy Fairlight from San Jacinto? Homage? Coincidence?
― dinnerboat, Saturday, 22 October 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link