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This according to Pitchfork a few days ago:

The homepage of former Beach Boys leader Brian Wilson's website contains one simple message today: "Coming soon to a face near you! Brian Wilson presents Smile!" Just two phrases, two exclamation points, but for so many, those simple words mean much more. Before the Beach Boys turned into the fractured nostalgia act they are today-- and despite what younger readers may glean from Schreiber's waaay misguided Pet Sounds diss (for which he repents, and continues to dismiss with his all-encompassing stock response, "sorry, I was high")-- they were one of the best pop bands of the 60s, along with The Beatles, and Smile was their never-completed potential masterpiece.


No one commented? Is it just not true?

B. Michael Payne (This Isnt That), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 01:44 (twenty-three years ago)

So will this be an 'unfinished' style release of a whole load of Smile framents? Will it be a live suite alá the recent Pet Sounds recording? Or will it be a possibly botched tying together and rerecording of old studio material? Either way, whatever happens, I will be awaiting this with baited breath.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 01:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Aha, from the website: http://www.brianwilson.com/news/


Brian Wilson to Appear at London's Roayal Festival Hall Performing His Lost Masterpiece "SMiLE" Live for the First Time

2004 Concert Tour To Include Performances in the U.K. And Europe

Los Angeles, CA -- Brian Wilson, co-founder of the Beach Boys, will return to London’s Royal Festival Hall in February 2004. For the first time in his 40-year career, Wilson will perform his mythical unreleased masterpiece, "SMiLE." In addition, the concert will include classic Beach Boys and Brian Wilson favourites as well as selections from his new solo album (details forthcoming).

The concert tour announcement comes on the heels of the 2003 Ivor Novello Awards at which Brian was presented with the Special International Award. Following the Awards ceremony Brian was honoured at a reception hosted by his publishers Rondor Music, celebrating his achievements on the occasion of the Beach Boys’ 40th Anniversary.

In 2002, Brian Wilson performed sold out concerts to stellar reviews at Festival Hall in January and June. The four January 2002 concerts sold out immediately and when Wilson returned to London later that year to perform at the Queen’s Jubilee Concert, he sold out another two nights. Among those who attended Brian’s Festival Hall performances were Eric Clapton, Roger Daltrey, Elvis Costello, Richard Ashcroft, and others. The gigs were cited as the concerts of the year by most UK critics. Brian Wilson and the Royal Festival Hall were honoured with the prestigious 'Live Event of the Year Award' by Time Out Magazine."

"Blame Brian Wilson. Eleven months to go and we already know the gig of the year." - TIME OUT 6 February 2002

"…there could only be one Gig Of The Year. No one knew what to expect from former Beach Boy Brian Wilson’s first-ever dates in Britain, but to see this icon…as spectacularly as any of those other sixties heroes here and alive and in the flesh was astounding." - THE EXPRESS

"Best Gig: Brian Wilson, Royal Festival Hall, London, January 27. The greatest songs in the history of pop music, exquisitely performed before an emotional, involved audience. What else do you want from a gig?" - THE GUARDIAN

For tour dates and ticket information, please visit the Tour page.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 01:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry for not editing out the needless quotes.

Just one thought. Is he going to perform it in a sandbox?

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 01:53 (twenty-three years ago)

He got rid of the sandbox a long time ago because his pet dog kept on crapping in it. And sand would get spread all over the house. It just wan't very practical.

Very excited about the gigs. February is a bloody long time to wait though.

James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 09:50 (twenty-three years ago)

This is gonna get me lynched but Jesus, much as I quite like some of their stuff they are the sacredest of mutherfucking sacred cows.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 09:53 (twenty-three years ago)

They're probably as highly rated now as they've ever been, Nick, but I don't know if you could call them a sacred cow. They're rightly slagged for the large quantities of shite they've managed to produce alongside the diamonds. Having said that, I've not seen anyone lay into Pet Sounds.

There's a not-insignificant chance that the whole Smile thing next year could be a colossal disaster for Brian Wilson. I think he's taking a much bigger risk than he did with the recent Pet Sounds tour. If it all goes tits up (and I obviously hope it doesn't) it'll be interesting to see what happens to the critical rep then.

James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 10:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Yep, ver 'Boys have been responsible for an awful tonne of shite, but this is Brian Wilson, not The Beach Boys. IIRC there was talk that Pet Sounds was origianlly going to be a Brian Wilson solo album, and 'Caroline, No' was originally released as such.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 11:57 (twenty-three years ago)

apart from the eighties stuff, where's the shit?

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 22:08 (twenty-three years ago)

'Barbara Ann' is so tedious that I've never been tempted to hear 'Beach Boys Party', but I would imagine that constitutes "shit" in relative terms.

'Student Demonstration Time' is bloody awful. There are some dodgy tracks on the post-Pet Sounds albums I've heard (though admittedly the 6 or 7 albums after that are more hit than miss).

I have to hear the late 70s reocrds to judge whether they contain as much dross as many people say, but it can't all be great.

(Don't get me wrong though - I love huge quantities of the Beach Boys' music.)

James Ball (James Ball), Thursday, 19 June 2003 12:12 (twenty-three years ago)

I was listneing to "Barabara Ann" as I was reading the post as it happens! I love it, it's a lot of fun but I can see how people wouldn't like it. The rest of Party! is top smart and I think it's really underrated. Get it if you can, it's cheap and it's packaged with the Beach Boys instrumentals which are really really interesting if not rather ace.

Student Demo Time was, yes, very crap as were the odd track on some seventies albums but it was only till the 80s (15 Big Ones notwithstanding) that Beach Boys got really poo. I love many of their 70s records, especially Holland, Love You etc. Carl and the Passions and 15 Big Ones are patchy but still worth getting. I'm serious when I say that comparing output-to-good-song ratio, the Beach Boys win over any other band.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 19 June 2003 17:43 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
From http://www.brianwilson.com/news/press_releases.html :

Brian Wilson Readies All-New Recording Of Legendary "SMiLE"

Long-awaited Masterpiece to be Released by Nonesuch Records on September 28

Recording Follows Triumphant "SMILE" Performances in Europe With U.S. Tour Planned For The Fall

Thirty-seven years after its anticipated release, an all-new studio recording of SMiLE - often referred to as the most famous unreleased album in history - will be made available worldwide by Nonesuch Records on September 28, 2004. SMiLE will be produced by Brian Wilson and will feature the ten-member band that has supported him on tour over the past five years, augmented by The Stockholm Strings and Horns.

Wilson and lyricist Van Dyke Parks, who collaborated on the original SMiLE session in 1966-67, listened together to the 37-year old tapes in November 2003, following Brian's announcement of his intention to complete and perform SMiLE in a series of concerts in London. Acting as Brian and Van Dyke’s musical secretary, Darian Sahanaja, of Wilson's touring band, began preparing the music for performance. This led to Wilson and Parks creating new material to make the concerts possible.

The public premiere of the finished SMiLE took place at the Royal Festival Hall in London on February 20, 2004 to overwhelming response. The Los Angeles Times said: "What we do know now is that Wilson and Parks created a glorious piece of music whose grand ambition is outstripped only by its inherent beauty and cumulative power." In London, The Guardian referred to SMiLE's "groundbreaking complexity and sophistication" and wrote it seemed "the grandest of American symphonies," while the Daily Telegraph added, "Leonard Bernstein once proclaimed Brian Wilson one of the greatest composers of the 20th century: he was not wrong." The Independent summarized the feeling in the hall: “we knew we’d witnessed a miracle of sorts."

Wilson is currently finishing the new recording of SMiLE at Los Angeles' Sunset Sound studio.

2004 promises to be the year of Brian Wilson. In addition to SMiLE, Wilson is releasing his first solo studio album in over six years, Gettin' In Over My Head (street date: 6/22) which features guest appearances by Eric Clapton, Elton John, Paul McCartney and his late brother Carl Wilson. He intends to perform music from both albums this summer on a UK and European tour and will embark on a U.S. tour in the fall.

Earlier this month Brian Wilson was named a BMI ICON recipient. Wilson is the first songwriter to receive both the President’s Award and the ICON award.

Additionally, Wilson, along with the late composer/conductor/arranger Henry Mancini, and violinist Sarah Chang will be the 2004 Hollywood Bowl Hall of Fame inductees. The opening night concert on Friday, June 25 will feature performances by Wilson and Chang, special appearances by Music Matters spokesperson Josh Groban, Andy Williams, Monica Mancini, and Wilson Phillips, as well as other surprise guests.


Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I do hope that an official box set of the original recordings is also in the works. I will buy, and probably love, this version, but it will never seem like the real thing to me....

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

"Real thing" or not, I'm optimistic.

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

"Real thing" or not, if the studio recordings are half as good as the live performance was at Oxford New Theatre last Saturday, it'll be fantastic.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)

"Real thing" or not, I'm buying it.

de, Wednesday, 21 July 2004 12:20 (twenty-one years ago)

im still trying to find the 4 cd bootleg box set out there but ill still buy this.

thesplooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I had the 3 LP bootleg. Side six was a studio party where they pretended to be in a rowboat and all present had to vote out one of their number, Big Brother style. Mike Love got the boot early on. He was not best pleased.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

speaking of, what is the market rate on "The Smile Sessions" 4CD boxset (w/book)?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

thesplooge, I don't think they've got exactly what you're after but you might just find something of interest here.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I AM CACKING MY KEKS IN EXCITEMENT AND NOW MY BOSS IS SENDING ME HOME FROM WORK! FOREVER!!!!!!!

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I have the vigotone 2 cd if anyone wants copies

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

speaking of, what is the market rate on "The Smile Sessions" 4CD boxset (w/book) on Sea Of Tunes?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I entered a competition to meet Brian Wilson at HMV on Oxford Street, but it looks like I haven't won :-(

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

go down to an old folks' home and talk to someone with alzheimer's, it will be exactly the same

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I got my copy of the 4cd set for ~100$ which i could ill afford at the time. in retrospect, the basic beach-boys boxset with the smile-era stuff there gave me a much better enjoyment/value ratio altho the smilebox has its own GODDAMN factor to it.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, sterling! did you get your copy in singapore? B-)

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

the problem is that brian wilson can no longer sing for shit

amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Was it 100? maybe 50. I can't fucking remember anymore. It was at a recordswap in berekely. probably more like 50. meh.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

whatever it was i remember not planning to spend it.


Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i ordered mine overseas from sea of tunes (singapore), it was $80.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you sure that the "Elements Suite" hasn't been released already? Or at least getting pre-release airplay? That would certainly explain the forest fires that are currently forcing evacuations north of Los Angeles.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

"the problem is that brian wilson can no longer sing for shit"

What on earth makes you say that? Have you actually seen / heard him recently? Admittedly his upper range may not be what it once was (he certainly struggles occasionally for some of the higher notes) and possibly his mind isn't either (fwiw I gather he forgot the word to one of the songs when he played at The Eden Project last week) but otherwise his voice is still as clear and smooth and rich as ever....

I'm only 2/3 of his age and have only done and been through a fraction of what Brian has, and I wish my voice was still in such a good condition!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 22 July 2004 08:09 (twenty-one years ago)

When Brian Wilson came out magazines hailed it as the follow-up to Pet Sounds we'd been waiting for since '66.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 22 July 2004 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

although the smile part was good during the last tour, the hits & oldies part was quite embarassing, i thought....

AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 22 July 2004 12:05 (twenty-one years ago)

an all-new studio recording of SMiLE

ugh, no thanks. i'll take the 'unfinished' originals.

sherm, Thursday, 22 July 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
the album is streaming now http://www.smilethealbum.com/

low fi, of course. I'm only at heroes and villans so I can't really say for sure, but this is probably as good as the record is ever going to get.

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 11 September 2004 07:03 (twenty-one years ago)

cabin essence sounds almost identical to the beach boys version except that wilson's voice is a lot deeper. musically, its creepy how identical these tracks sound to the original sessions.

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 11 September 2004 07:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I suppose the advances in studios mean that the original resonances that Smile / Pet Sounds had can be closely approximated. That was my reservation originally. Who knows. Gimme a free track, Uncut Magazine.

mark grout (mark grout), Saturday, 11 September 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

They do sound pretty similar, with the exception of Wilson's croakier voice. One difference I'm not sure I like is the old-timey radio effect on the "how I love my girl" part.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 11 September 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

What's the release date?

Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Sunday, 12 September 2004 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

2 wks, I think

Jimmy Mod, Man About Towne (ModJ), Sunday, 12 September 2004 05:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Is this a Beach boys record, or Wilson? If the former, I don't know why they would let him croak all over it.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 12 September 2004 08:05 (twenty-one years ago)

No Beach Boys other than Brian.

Mark (MarkR), Sunday, 12 September 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

all told after listening to the preview, I think it's pretty fantastic, and can't wait for the release. I do hope he puts out a sanctioned box set of the original sessions at some point, but the bootlegs are pretty comprehensive and most of them sound good, so I won't die if it doesn't happen.

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 12 September 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Yep, listened to this starting at about 6:45am this morning. Almost cried. It seems familiar because I've heard the songs so many times before, but even more than that, it feels like having a long, lost father come back.

Dominique (dleone), Saturday, 18 September 2004 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

so he's recut all the vocals again? oh dear.

splooge (thesplooge), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

It's all new recordings.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

think ill stick with the bootlegs then and piece together my own version using the new one as a guide.

splooge (thesplooge), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

New recordings, but they sound ALARMINGLY close to identical to the original ones, aside from BW's vocals.

Douglas (Douglas), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

has it leaked yet????

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 18 September 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

It's on his site, streaming. Will say, though: part of me wishes they'd just gone back and re-thought it from scratch, rather than going note-for-note. Could've been interesting. As is, it's ok, though...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 18 September 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I think we ask too much of a madman

Jimmy Mod, Los Sexx Yanqui (ModJ), Sunday, 19 September 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Christgau gives 5 stars in new Rolling Stone.

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 23 September 2004 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)

It's really kind of poignant how he can't hit the high notes on "Surf's Up" anymore, so he has back-up singers do it for him.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 23 September 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

What a great review.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 23 September 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

This was in my inbox:

Hi there!
Thanks to so many of you for registering on www.smilethealbum.com, the whole SMiLE album is
now available for you to listen to. Click here to go straight to the site. All of the artwork has been revealed too!

Hope you love the new album.

Admin
www.smilethealbum.com


I haven't listened to it since the whole thing's been up, but the tracks I heard earlier were intriguing.

JC-L (JC-L), Thursday, 23 September 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm listening to the whole thing on the site now.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 23 September 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

it's leaked anyway, and it's great. My promo might just beat the release date!

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 23 September 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Definitely five stars, though I thought Christgau's piece was a little dry. I'm just thrilled that the album came together so perfectly...I couldn't imgaine this done any better.

nameom (nameom), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Dominique, are you reviewing it for Pfork?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Christgau totally nailed it.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

You know? This thing is gorgeous. It's so gratifying for me to finally hear the lyrical and musical gaps filled in . It all locks together so well.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

saw him on ellen's show the other day, BRILLIANCE!!!!!! WOW. (except for his own vocals which were really dissapointing)

splooge (thesplooge), Friday, 24 September 2004 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Get this, a good sized Paul Williams piece on the new SMiLEin the San Diego Reader today. (I think this link will go to the new feature next week, unfortunately. Articles not archived on the site.)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 24 September 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Tim, what's going on? Suddenly, it's like we're long lost brothers. I LOVE Paul Williams!

But wait: am I the only one that finds it odd how Xgau suddenly thinks this thing was the greatest music ever, having slagged the shit out of its individual songs for years in reviews of post-Smile BB albums? I mean, context is important and all, but it ain't everything...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 24 September 2004 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't really trust Christgau on this too much either, but you know, good karma. ;)

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 24 September 2004 03:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Did anyone else notice that Christgau posted this one FROM THE FUTURE????

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I have BOUGHT it from a SHOP, but I haven't listened to it yet! Nice packaging.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

Do you still listen to this or are you more likely to put on the 60s boots?

Mark Rich@rdson, Friday, 28 March 2008 03:39 (eighteen years ago)

i could never listen to the brian wilson version because i was used to the voices on the bootlegs

gershy, Friday, 28 March 2008 03:42 (eighteen years ago)

i loved the shit out of this for a while but now the relentless happyness is too much for me

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 28 March 2008 03:56 (eighteen years ago)

I haven't listened to any Brian Wilson or Beach Boys since Smile (2004), but mainly because I STILL hear so many bands all the time doing diluted Pet Sounds or Smile type things.. just burnt out. Try New Infuences, Indie D00ds :/

Mackro Mackro, Friday, 28 March 2008 03:58 (eighteen years ago)

i still listen to this occasionally

J0rdan S., Friday, 28 March 2008 04:00 (eighteen years ago)

but that's because i've given more burn to their old stuff so this is still a little bit fresher to me

J0rdan S., Friday, 28 March 2008 04:00 (eighteen years ago)

i listened to it recently, it's nice; the 'new' bits stick out though

akm, Friday, 28 March 2008 04:02 (eighteen years ago)

sweet things should only be taken in moderation, but every easter i am ready to pig out again so i might give it another spin.

what i really love is the loser's lounge version of surf's up - i think its only accompanied by piano, like brian wilson performed it on TV in the 70s, and is way much more beautiful than the 2004 smile version.

fantasimundo, Friday, 28 March 2008 08:23 (eighteen years ago)

tooootally, when i wanna hear surf's up i pull up the youtube of that vid instead of this album or the original

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 28 March 2008 08:26 (eighteen years ago)

here here - young brian wilson RULES

fantasimundo, Friday, 28 March 2008 08:27 (eighteen years ago)

That last pic, he is announcing the bingo.

Mark G, Friday, 28 March 2008 12:53 (eighteen years ago)

"All the twos - uh, are these supposed to be ducks? Oh gee - I feel more like a thirty-nine."
Manager: "my office please."

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 28 March 2008 13:10 (eighteen years ago)

A bemused Mike Love adds: "is there any relatable boy-girl thing in this bingo?"

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 28 March 2008 13:11 (eighteen years ago)

"Wait a minute - a guy dressed in velvet and wearing a fox's head? Sorry, cousin Brian, I'm not gonna play your ego gambling game."

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 28 March 2008 13:12 (eighteen years ago)

I haven't listened to any Brian Wilson or Beach Boys since Smile (2004), but mainly because I STILL hear so many bands all the time doing diluted Pet Sounds or Smile type things.. just burnt out. Try New Infuences, Indie D00ds :/

There will never be enough indie acts influenced by Beach Boys (or The Beatles).

I am sick of way too many acts being way too influenced by Stooges, MC5, Velvet Underground, Pixies or Sonic Youth though. Enough already!

Geir Hongro, Friday, 28 March 2008 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

No, you're just sick.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 28 March 2008 13:40 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, wej

Mark G, Friday, 28 March 2008 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

I did out the old stuff.

I'm not sure how that happened. I think I was trying to say I prefer the Brian Wilson production in the 1960s to the modern version.

Z S, Friday, 28 March 2008 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

my bootleg of the original demoes is all scratched up. Wouldn't mind hearing them again. There used to be a link to them - anyone know where?

the next grozart, Friday, 28 March 2008 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

"All the twos - uh, are these supposed to be ducks? Oh gee - I feel more like a thirty-nine."
Manager: "my office please."

many lolz

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 28 March 2008 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

My kids like the new version best, but then they were born after it came out. Recommended for the 0 to 4 age group.

dad a, Friday, 28 March 2008 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

van dye parks on smile

The Smile Sessions are finally being released in September. When somebody mentions Smile, what's the first thing that pops into your head?
Crows over a cornfield [a reference to the Parks-penned line in Smile's Cabinessence]. I hear the box set is going to be absolutely beautiful. It will be very comforting to see that it's finally commercially available.

How has your relationship with the songs on Smile changed over the years?
I really think they're fine. I don't see any septic quality in them at all. In fact, the unvarnished truth is that they are without malice. Please bring that into the contemporary framework! But I wish, darn it, that it hadn't had so much celebrity. The celebrity of it got in the way. Otherwise, it would have been fine.

Religion, to me, is music. What Brian brought to the table was a closeted understanding of low-church hymns. I knew that that man had a divine regard. That's what really made me want to serve his interest with all my heart. We were coming from entirely separate arenas - he from right-wing comfort and me from the left-wing shock therapy of being out in Los Angeles with no money. I think our common thread was that we shared that music.

Smile is a kind of fevered reimagining of Americana...
One time I was at college, studying music, and Aaron Copland came into the room to teach. I was the only undergraduate composition major. I got an A and a pat on the ass. The point is, Mr. Copland was asked during that class, "What is American music?" He said, with a shrug, "American music is anything written in America." I thought that was unforgettable. I like that.

tylerw, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 22:20 (fourteen years ago)

Well, it was a dumb question. Other answers include ".. if you have to ask..."

Mark G, Thursday, 25 August 2011 08:00 (fourteen years ago)

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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B004RFYEEC/
The long awaited release of the Brian Wilson and Beach Boys masterpiece, Smile Sessions. With the full participation of original Beach Boys Al Jardine, Mike

Love, and Brian Wilson, Capitol/EMI has, for the first time, collected and compiled the band's legendary 1966-'67 sessions for the never-completed SMiLE

album. Rolling Stone magazine recently called SMiLE "the most famous unfinished album in rock & roll history."

In several sessions between the summer of 1966 and early 1967, The Beach Boys recorded a bounty of songs and drafts for an album, SMiLE, that was intended to

follow the band's 1966 album, Pet Sounds. The master tapes were ultimately shelved, and The Beach Boys' SMiLE has never been released. Drawn from the

original masters, SMiLE Sessions presents an in-depth overview of The Beach Boys' recording sessions for the enigmatic album, which has achieved legendary,

mythical status for music fans around the world.

SMiLE Sessions' physical and digital configurations include an assembled collection of core session tracks, while the box set delves much deeper into the

sessions, adding early song drafts, alternate takes, instrumental and vocals-only mixes, and studio chatter. SMiLE Sessions invites the listener into the

studio to experience the album's creation, with producer, singer and bassist Brian Wilson's vision leading the way as he guides his fellow Beach Boys, singer

Mike Love, drummer Dennis Wilson, lead guitarist Carl Wilson, rhythm guitarist Al Jardine, and newest member Bruce Johnston (who'd replaced Brian Wilson in

the touring group during 1965), through the legendary sessions.

Artwork for all of the SMiLE Sessions' physical and digital configurations has been created with and inspired by Beat-Pop artist Frank Holmes' original 1967

LP sleeve art and booklet designs intended for the SMiLE album. With its three-dimensional shadowbox lid, The SMiLE Sessions box set offers a whimsical peek

inside the storied SMiLE Shop.'

Box Set Content

- 5 CDs / 2LPs / 2 7" singles

- Three-dimensional shadow box lid featuring the original artwork of Frank Holmes.

- The Box Set measures 13" x 13" x 2.5"

- 60 page case bound book features liner notes by:

- Brian Wilson

- Mike Love

- Al Jardine

- Bruce Johnston

- Frank Holmes

- Peter Reum

- Tom Nolan

- Dominic Priore

- Anecdotes by:

- Marilyn Wilson-Rutherford

- Diane Rovell

- Dean Torrence

- Mark Volman

- Michael Vosse

- David Anderle

- Danny Hutton

- Timeline

- Sessionography

- Lyrics

- Frank Holmes drawings

- Producer's Notes

- More than 60 previously unreleased photos

- Box also contains:

- 6 panel folder holding 5 CDs and singles. Features photos of original session tape boxes.

- 7" vinyl singles

- "Heroes and Villians" in sleeve art

- Vega-Tables" in sleeve art

- Gatefold 2 LPs

- Features full tracklisting of proposed unfinished album +

- Stereo mixes and session highlights (not available on CDs)

- 12" x 12" booklet created for original release features:

- Photos by Guy Webster

- Drawings by Frank Holmes

- 24" x 36" poster of Frank Holmes cover art

tylerw, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:32 (fourteen years ago)

here's the tracklisting of the 2CD version

Disc: 1
1. Our Prayer
2. Gee
3. Heroes And Villains
4. Do You Like Worms (Roll Plymouth Rock)
5. I'm In Great Shape
6. Barnyard
7. My Only Sunshine (The Old Master Painter / You Are My Sunshine)
8. Cabin Essence
9. Wonderful
10. Look (Song For Children)
11. Child Is Father Of The Man
12. Surf's Up
13. I Wanna Be Around / Workshop
14. Vega-Tables
15. Holidays
16. Wind Chimes
17. The Elements: Fire (Mrs. O'Leary's Cow)
18. Love To Say Dada
19. Good Vibrations
20. You're Welcome (Bonus Track)
21. Heroes And Villains (Stereo Mix) (Bonus Track)
22. Heroes And Villains Sections (Stereo Mix) (Bonus Track)
23. Vega-Tables Demo (Bonus Track)
24. He Gives Speeches (Bonus Track)
25. Smile Backing Vocals Montage (Bonus Track)
26. Surf's Up 1967 (Solo version) (Bonus Track)
27. Psycodelic Sounds: Brian Falls Into A Piano (Bonus Track)
Disc: 2
1. Our Prayer "Dialog" (9/19/66) 3:02
2. Heroes and Villains (Part 1) 3:08
3. Heroes and Villains (Part 2) 4:18
4. Heroes and Villains: Children Were Raised (1/27/67) 2:07
5. Heroes and Villains: Prelude to Fade (2/15/67) 3:42
6. My Only Sunshine (11/14/66) 6:52
7. Cabin Essence (10/3/66) 5:19
8. Surf's Up: 1st Movement (11/4/66) 4:55
9. Surf's Up Piano Demo (12/15/66) 3:53
10. Vegetables Fade (4/12/67) 5:25
11. The Elements: Fire session (11/28/66) 8:27
12. Cool Cool Water version 2 (10/26-10/29/67) 3:32
13. Good Vibrations Session Highlights 8:20
14. Psycodelic Sounds: Brian Falls Into A Microphone (11/4/66) 1:10 (Hidden Track)

tylerw, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:36 (fourteen years ago)

sounds like there will be a few new things at least

iatee, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:37 (fourteen years ago)

that box set is pretty and all but lots of money for something that will sit on my shelf and never get opened.

skip, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:39 (fourteen years ago)

i dunno, it's going to be hard for me to resist tbh.
not expecting amazing new stuff, but pretty psyched just to have an official release. the smile tracklisting is basically the same as the brian wilson 2004 version, right?

tylerw, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:40 (fourteen years ago)

promo video here: http://www.amazon.com/The-Beach-Boys/e/B000APTGZ0/ref=ntt_mus_dp_pel

skip, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

my big question is what version of Surf's Up they're going to use.

skip, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

and whether they brickwall the shit out of this.

skip, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:46 (fourteen years ago)

i'm hoping it's the long rumored "mike love on lead vocals" surf's up version

tylerw, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:46 (fourteen years ago)

60 page case bound book features liner notes by:

- Mike Love

"fuck this shit imo"

buzza, Saturday, 27 August 2011 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

"columnated ruins dom--give me me a fucking break!"

tylerw, Saturday, 27 August 2011 20:25 (fourteen years ago)

Does it have the 'party' where they all sit in a boat and vote on who to evict, and the vote goes "Mike Love", and the rest of the tape is they laffing and MLove getting irate from someplace off-mic?

This was a track on a Smile boot, and when the first series of "Big Brother" was described to me, I said it was on a Beach Boys bootleg, at which point everyone thought I'd misheard or misunderstood.

Any road, if not: Does anyone have this? I sold it ages ago.

Mark G, Saturday, 27 August 2011 20:49 (fourteen years ago)

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Mark G, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 16:10 (fourteen years ago)

mark, you might be thinking of the track "smile era party" from the excellent vigotone bootleg.

http://www.vigotone.com/vigotone/vigotone110-111.htm

akaky akakievich, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

here's an excerpt -- not the whole thing. http://www.bigozine1a.com/MPX3/BBxsmile/BBxsmile238.mp3

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

http://images.merchdirect.com/14652-33968
SMiLE LIGHT UP Box Set+Surfboard
$5999.99

Mark G, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:56 (fourteen years ago)

Oh mah GAWD!

Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:10 (fourteen years ago)

A fokken sorf bord!!!

Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:10 (fourteen years ago)

Be annoyed if they'd charged $6000 for it

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:13 (fourteen years ago)

That does sound ridiculous - I mean, a grand would seem over the top, but 6 grand?

Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:16 (fourteen years ago)

Apparently, it's 'signed'...

Mark G, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:36 (fourteen years ago)

I'd only consider buying that if I could get to be a weirdo photographed with Mike Love

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:39 (fourteen years ago)

Maybe a signed apple juice jug?

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:06 (fourteen years ago)

there's a competition to come up with a concept for a music video for either Good Vibrations or Heroes & Villains. Should we come up with one together? The treatment has to be under 250 words.

Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:08 (fourteen years ago)

I think it should involve a keyhole surgery cam

Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:09 (fourteen years ago)

remember when the Brian Wilson Smile topped every critic's list humanly possible in 2004 and then everyone tried to forget it existed by spring 2005.

delmar dillinger (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:12 (fourteen years ago)

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqslunl4aK1qjhphb.jpg

fit and working again, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:13 (fourteen years ago)

more of this?

Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:14 (fourteen years ago)

was originally posted on the bb poll thread: http://mikelovenotwarcomic.tumblr.com/

fit and working again, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:22 (fourteen years ago)

I wonder how well this will sell - I think it could have been huge in 1990, but nowadays nearly everyone that would wants a multi-disc Smile set already has a bootleg or two or three.

OTOH, last year's limited-edition $150 Sandy Denny megabox is already fetching $600 on eBay, so maybe the big set with the lighted signs, surfboard, and 45rpm singles will quickly become a collector's item (I hope they're kidding about $5,999). I'll probably buy the 2 CD set, though will wait to read reactions to the different packages before buying. This is one time I definitely want a physical package rather than a download - so I'll have the booklet and all.

Finally having a 7" single of Heroes & Villians part 1 b/w part 2 will be cool, after decades of only having sleeve art. I've heard boots, but never seen it pressed on a 45rpm single the way it was originally intended for release, and obviously not an official release.

All those people on the liner notes and anecdotes but not VDP, wonder why?

Lee547 (Lee626), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:08 (fourteen years ago)

hmm, he's really not in there? would be surprising. he was involved in the 2004 smile, seems like he'd at least be interviewed here.

tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

I don't see him mentioned in your post from Aug 27 3:36pm - I haven't looked at the official press releases or website yet

Lee547 (Lee626), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:16 (fourteen years ago)

i mean, maybe mike love has edged him out again, who knows. love's essay will probably begin with the words "When I wrote 'Cabinessence,' I knew I was onto some crazy stuff, man."
i'm hoping that i get the deluxe set for xmas, couldn't really afford it otherwise. maybe i'm a sucker, but it ... it looks neat!

tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:18 (fourteen years ago)

When I wrote 'Cabinessence,' I knew I was onto some crazy stuff, man.

I lol'd

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:20 (fourteen years ago)

Actually I can't wait to read Mike Love's liner notes for the lulz....

Lee547 (Lee626), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

I had been listening to a lot of Copland, you know, and smoking a lot of really great Costa Rican hash, and I was like -- "Heroes & Villains, man, that's the story of America!" The rest just flowed from there.
-Mike Love
http://massive2011.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/mike-love-150x150.jpg

tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:26 (fourteen years ago)

isn't everyone kidding themselves when they think they're not buying this the day it comes out?

Dominique, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:26 (fourteen years ago)

i will if i stumble across $150 in the street that day.

tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

I bought the 2004 Smile the day it was released

Lee547 (Lee626), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:44 (fourteen years ago)

So what extras will the basic 2 CD set include? I hope at least a CD-size version of the original booklet, and some new liner notes/anecdotes

Lee547 (Lee626), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

isn't everyone kidding themselves when they think they're not buying this the day it comes out?

I don't really need this what with all the bootleg stuff I've already got. plus I'm poor. I guess if someone bought it for me a present I wouldn't complain. primarily interested in the liner notes/package/vinyl fetishism angle than any of the actual music, most of which looks like things I've heard before. except maybe now it's all been dynamic range limited/compressed lol

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:49 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, I guess I have a lot of this already too. Just the fun of getting it, and listening to a for real beach boys Smile is a little too much for me to pretend I'm over it. Really, what I'll probably do is dig up $150 worth of CDs to trade in at Amoeba

Dominique, Friday, 2 September 2011 21:02 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, as much as i dig my smile bootlegs, they're all kind of a mess, and in varying sound quality. i like the idea of a professional presentation of this material. hope the remastering is a-OK, supervised by mike love himself.

tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 21:04 (fourteen years ago)

Are the "Brian Fell Into..." tracks related to "George Fell Into His French Horn" on the Vigotone boot?

Lee547 (Lee626), Saturday, 3 September 2011 00:02 (fourteen years ago)

er that's "Brian Falls Into A Piano" and "Brian Falls Into A Microphone"

Lee547 (Lee626), Saturday, 3 September 2011 00:04 (fourteen years ago)

"Brian Falls Into a Drug Induced Stuopr and Soils Himself"

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Monday, 5 September 2011 09:35 (fourteen years ago)

Stupor even

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Monday, 5 September 2011 09:35 (fourteen years ago)

Mike Love delayed the "Pet Sounds" box as there was no real mention of the BB's themselves. The additional booklet, to cover this, was right and proper.

I kinda get the impression VDP's contributions will be part of the "well, yeah obviously" section.

Mark G, Monday, 5 September 2011 09:53 (fourteen years ago)

Mike Love delayed the "Pet Sounds" box as there was no real mention of the BB's themselves.

Too right, well done Mike.

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Monday, 5 September 2011 10:09 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag-K0vEagPc

tylerw, Friday, 9 September 2011 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

not really hearing anything new there

you will always be wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 September 2011 16:49 (fourteen years ago)

only thing i noticed (which may be on some bootlegs i don't know) is the sorta dissonant string thing linking two sections on H&V.

tylerw, Friday, 9 September 2011 16:50 (fourteen years ago)

same thought as you tyler--never heard that part before. Very strange to hear the 2004 sessions spliced in there with the Mark Linett name on it.

skip, Friday, 9 September 2011 17:06 (fourteen years ago)

you think that's actually from the 2004 sessions? is that how this is going to be -- mixing 'n' matching parts from 1967 and 2004?

tylerw, Friday, 9 September 2011 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

I take that back, it's not from 04.

skip, Friday, 9 September 2011 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

nothing from 2004 is being used in this collection

akm, Friday, 9 September 2011 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

only thing i noticed (which may be on some bootlegs i don't know) is the sorta dissonant string thing linking two sections on H&V.

this did stick out to me but it was also familiar - I'm not sure where I would have come across it tho.

you will always be wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 September 2011 17:17 (fourteen years ago)

George fell into his french horn?

skip, Friday, 9 September 2011 17:20 (fourteen years ago)

I don't remember hearing the "woo woo woo" part before "you're under arrest" before.

the wheelie king (wk), Friday, 9 September 2011 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, that's on the 2004 version iirc. jesus this is so confusing. gonna have to quit my job and sort it all out once this is released.

tylerw, Friday, 9 September 2011 17:38 (fourteen years ago)

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=10946.msg207582#msg207582

Heroes and Villains...STUNNING. Breakdown-
-Verse 1: has no more "carnival" organ. Ends with the dum-be-doo-be-do-waa vox.
-Chorus: Same as the single version (Heroes and villains, just see etc...)
-Verse 2: This is the "la-la-la" section. Same as single, has the organ in it.
-Section 4: Same as the single (doo doo do doo, etc...) with the exception of the slide whistle going off at what seems to be a different time of the section.
-Section 5: Cantina section. Has the laughing and "DAAAAAANCE" backing on it. The part leading up to the woo woo woo woo woo's is MUCH clearer then ever before. Still has "YOU'RE UNDER ARREST"
-Section 6: My children were raised...still the same.
-Section 7: Been in this town...same. Transition easier though then before to.
-Chorus 2: Same.
-Section 8: Bridge to Indians (I believe that's what it's called. "Ahhaahahahahah" you get the picture Tongue) Transitions nicely into
-Section 9: Western theme and this is also much clearer then before.
-End: The flutter horn with the strings that's been booted but nicer sounding.

skip, Friday, 9 September 2011 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

I was thinking that the western theme was lifted from 04 because it's so clear, and the Smile reconstructions often took that section from 04 because the boots sounded so horrible, but it's just really damn clear.

skip, Friday, 9 September 2011 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

George fell into his french horn?

yeah this is what I was thinking too...?

you will always be wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 September 2011 19:02 (fourteen years ago)

hey guys

i'm a little confused, the whole smile thing is so mixed up

but basically

this new "smile sessions" is an attempt to create the original vision for what smile was supposed to be...using only recordings from that time period?

(basically?)

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 September 2011 19:39 (fourteen years ago)

not really. its a release of all the recordings from the original Smile sessions

you will always be wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 September 2011 19:40 (fourteen years ago)

so you get like an hour and a half of various takes of Heroes and Villains etc

you will always be wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 September 2011 19:40 (fourteen years ago)

well, the first disc is a reconstruction of what smile was supposed to be/could've been. they seem to be using the 2004 version as a template, but all of the recordings come from 1966-67.

tylerw, Friday, 9 September 2011 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

I'm interviewing VD Parks next week and was specifically told not to ask him about Smile. Which is okay, as there's plenty to ask him otherwise, but still I worry that he's being scrubbed from the record.

beta blog, Friday, 9 September 2011 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

blecch that stinks. seems weird, but oh well. you should ask him about grace kelly.

tylerw, Friday, 9 September 2011 19:46 (fourteen years ago)

these are great btw http://www.bananastan.com/singles.html

tylerw, Friday, 9 September 2011 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

Ask him about David Lynch/Twin Peaks, he played Leo's attorney.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 9 September 2011 20:14 (fourteen years ago)

Those VDP singles have some vintage RAW mag artwork

dan selzer, Friday, 9 September 2011 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

ask him about Faerie Tale Theatre!
http://www.imdb.com/video/hulu/vi952042521/

the wheelie king (wk), Friday, 9 September 2011 20:41 (fourteen years ago)

tyler, it only seems weird until you think about this:
Can we be shown weirdos + Mike Love?

who/ what else should i ask him about? Goldie Hawn reggae?
http://rateyourmusic.com/release/single/goldie_hawn/pitta_patta__mono____pitta_patta__stereo_/

beta blog, Friday, 9 September 2011 21:49 (fourteen years ago)

Ask him what The Mighty Sparrow is like to hang out with

Number None, Friday, 9 September 2011 21:51 (fourteen years ago)

Ask him about David Lynch/Twin Peaks, he played Leo's attorney.

^^^^

you will always be wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 September 2011 21:59 (fourteen years ago)

Ask him about Jackie Gleason!

Lee547 (Lee626), Friday, 9 September 2011 23:20 (fourteen years ago)

It's the animated unboxing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvB0glRsolw

life should have a slow-moving fan (Lee626), Friday, 9 September 2011 23:31 (fourteen years ago)

I'm interviewing VD Parks next week and was specifically told not to ask him about Smile. Which is okay, as there's plenty to ask him otherwise, but still I worry that he's being scrubbed from the record.

― beta blog, Friday, September 9, 2011 7:41 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Ask him if Song Cycle really is a concept album about the death of his brother. And then politely ask him to go song-by-song giving the details of said interpretation, kthxbi

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 10 September 2011 00:40 (fourteen years ago)

the A cover of Wall Street is sampled from a RAW cover, but the B looks like an actual Spieg commission - that painting style is post-NYer for him. None of the others look anything like RAW stuff that I'm familiar with

challopian rubes (sic), Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:31 (fourteen years ago)

I just recognized the one and decided to yell out "bunch of RAW art!"

dan selzer, Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:30 (fourteen years ago)

and this is why I stopped reading BBs message boards.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=11058.msg211808#msg211808

skip, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

good lord - there's like seven kinds of crazy on that board.

I love these quotes, though:

• "Only damage can arise from this temporary, fleeting image of success known as The Beach Boys." —MURRY WILSON
• "A musician expends as much energy in half an hour as a lumberjack does in 8 hours." —AL JARDINE
• "I used to pretend I was playing a guitar on a toothpick." —CARL WILSON
• "Brian Wilson is not a good looking human being." —DENNIS WILSON
• "I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once." —BRUCE JOHNSTON
• "I gave her the best 8 seconds of her life.” —DAVID MARKS
• "People are thinking Mike Love is crazy." —MIKE LOVE
• "Mike Love? He's Crazy." —BRIAN WILSON

Darin, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 20:35 (fourteen years ago)

thanking you

I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

lol - def the best quote!

Darin, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 21:15 (fourteen years ago)

I have to agree with Darin, that board is plentifully crazy, and the level of obsessive analysis really does frighten me sometimes!

Turrican, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 21:22 (fourteen years ago)

omg

Smile would never have been conceptually conceived had Brian been 'dry' - in fact he was full of conserved energy from not ejaculating. Brian mentioned this around the time - that when you cum you lose creative energy, genius, seed, potential, etc. Just saving it up for a while shows you this - cool it for a while and see how your mind improves. Smile the initial urge of conception was from channeling sexual energy into the brain for creative purposes rather than ordinary sexual. Smile did not become what it set out to be because Brian lost his seed either once [losing the entire synthesis of the idea as it resided in his brain] or through once and continual losses. With whoever, Marilyn or Diane or Barbara. Any of the groovy chicks Brian was probably checking out when he saw them. Anyway, that's the secret. That's why Smiley got crude and kind of perverted at times. And Wild Honey continued it. Charles Manson sex guru came on the scene shortly after. They were never as innocent as Smile again. Brian Wilson in the 1970s seems to have had a masturbation addiction. Sobering facts about our beloved guru of sound.

iatee, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

Sobering facts about our beloved guru of sound.
Sobering facts about our beloved guru of sound.
Sobering facts about our beloved guru of sound.
Sobering facts about our beloved guru of sound.
Sobering facts about our beloved guru of sound.
Sobering facts about our beloved guru of sound.
Sobering facts about our beloved guru of sound.
Sobering facts about our beloved guru of sound.
Sobering facts about our beloved guru of sound.

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 21:24 (fourteen years ago)

anyway that's the secret.

tylerw, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 21:25 (fourteen years ago)

Where do those people come from!?

Turrican, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 21:37 (fourteen years ago)

They fall out of George's french horn

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 21:44 (fourteen years ago)

oh boy

Mark G, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 21:47 (fourteen years ago)

Brian has been quoted saying he has sex twice per day, every day. Brian himself knows, or knew, in the 60s, that, according to the teachings of the oriental mind, semen contains vital brain substances which when not wasted on females are reabsorbed back into the brain and create a more capable brilliant brain. Brian made all his best music due to conserving his semen. The ecstatic chants of California Girls are due to this. It is my own pet theory that SMiLE ceased to become due to Marilyn finally seducing Brian from the piano into the marital bed. Call me crazy but I think SMiLE was contained in Brian's seed and he lost it. Perhaps it became an expertly crafted sandwich. Or Carnie.

Theory: if Brian goes celibate for a few months, he will recover his mid-60s songwriting muse and go on to another 40 years of brilliance.

skip, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 21:53 (fourteen years ago)

They fall out of George's french horn

*comedy drumroll*

Turrican, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 21:54 (fourteen years ago)

four weeks pass...

engineer Mark Linnet interview re: this project

http://www.iconfetch.com/great-music-interviews/2011-shows/406-mark-linett-beach-boys-smile-interview.html

Dominique, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

Interesting that he blames Brian's inability to finish Smile in 1967 primarily on technical issues and the complexity of compiling a single LP out of over 6 hours of disjointed recordingghe more common theories that have floated around other the years that Brian was too unstabile to finish it.

Appaently, the vinyl record(s) will be issued separately as well as included in the large deluxe box set

Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 17:47 (fourteen years ago)

It's not hard to see how the complexity of compiling a single LP from 6 hours of stuff and Brian's mental instability may be linked...

skip, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 18:20 (fourteen years ago)

interesting interview! thx for posting.
pretty amazing, the scope of the project. makes you wonder if linnet at this point never wants to hear this stuff ever again!

tylerw, Thursday, 13 October 2011 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

listening to the box set recently, this is the first time I've listened to smile, the only real beach boys I've really listen to closely is surf's up, so this is way overwhelming for me

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 23:19 (fourteen years ago)

I knew they were good and shit but I didn't know they were this good

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 23:25 (fourteen years ago)

or insane rather

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 23:26 (fourteen years ago)


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