The homepage of former Beach Boys leader Brian Wilson's website contains one simple message today: "Coming soon to a face near you! Brian Wilson presents Smile!" Just two phrases, two exclamation points, but for so many, those simple words mean much more. Before the Beach Boys turned into the fractured nostalgia act they are today-- and despite what younger readers may glean from Schreiber's waaay misguided Pet Sounds diss (for which he repents, and continues to dismiss with his all-encompassing stock response, "sorry, I was high")-- they were one of the best pop bands of the 60s, along with The Beatles, and Smile was their never-completed potential masterpiece.
No one commented? Is it just not true?
― B. Michael Payne (This Isnt That), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 01:44 (twenty-three years ago)
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 01:49 (twenty-three years ago)
Brian Wilson to Appear at London's Roayal Festival Hall Performing His Lost Masterpiece "SMiLE" Live for the First Time
2004 Concert Tour To Include Performances in the U.K. And Europe
Los Angeles, CA -- Brian Wilson, co-founder of the Beach Boys, will return to London’s Royal Festival Hall in February 2004. For the first time in his 40-year career, Wilson will perform his mythical unreleased masterpiece, "SMiLE." In addition, the concert will include classic Beach Boys and Brian Wilson favourites as well as selections from his new solo album (details forthcoming).
The concert tour announcement comes on the heels of the 2003 Ivor Novello Awards at which Brian was presented with the Special International Award. Following the Awards ceremony Brian was honoured at a reception hosted by his publishers Rondor Music, celebrating his achievements on the occasion of the Beach Boys’ 40th Anniversary.
In 2002, Brian Wilson performed sold out concerts to stellar reviews at Festival Hall in January and June. The four January 2002 concerts sold out immediately and when Wilson returned to London later that year to perform at the Queen’s Jubilee Concert, he sold out another two nights. Among those who attended Brian’s Festival Hall performances were Eric Clapton, Roger Daltrey, Elvis Costello, Richard Ashcroft, and others. The gigs were cited as the concerts of the year by most UK critics. Brian Wilson and the Royal Festival Hall were honoured with the prestigious 'Live Event of the Year Award' by Time Out Magazine."
"Blame Brian Wilson. Eleven months to go and we already know the gig of the year." - TIME OUT 6 February 2002
"…there could only be one Gig Of The Year. No one knew what to expect from former Beach Boy Brian Wilson’s first-ever dates in Britain, but to see this icon…as spectacularly as any of those other sixties heroes here and alive and in the flesh was astounding." - THE EXPRESS
"Best Gig: Brian Wilson, Royal Festival Hall, London, January 27. The greatest songs in the history of pop music, exquisitely performed before an emotional, involved audience. What else do you want from a gig?" - THE GUARDIAN
For tour dates and ticket information, please visit the Tour page.
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 01:51 (twenty-three years ago)
Just one thought. Is he going to perform it in a sandbox?
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 01:53 (twenty-three years ago)
Very excited about the gigs. February is a bloody long time to wait though.
― James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 09:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 09:53 (twenty-three years ago)
There's a not-insignificant chance that the whole Smile thing next year could be a colossal disaster for Brian Wilson. I think he's taking a much bigger risk than he did with the recent Pet Sounds tour. If it all goes tits up (and I obviously hope it doesn't) it'll be interesting to see what happens to the critical rep then.
― James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 10:15 (twenty-three years ago)
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 11:57 (twenty-three years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 22:08 (twenty-three years ago)
'Student Demonstration Time' is bloody awful. There are some dodgy tracks on the post-Pet Sounds albums I've heard (though admittedly the 6 or 7 albums after that are more hit than miss).
I have to hear the late 70s reocrds to judge whether they contain as much dross as many people say, but it can't all be great.
(Don't get me wrong though - I love huge quantities of the Beach Boys' music.)
― James Ball (James Ball), Thursday, 19 June 2003 12:12 (twenty-three years ago)
Student Demo Time was, yes, very crap as were the odd track on some seventies albums but it was only till the 80s (15 Big Ones notwithstanding) that Beach Boys got really poo. I love many of their 70s records, especially Holland, Love You etc. Carl and the Passions and 15 Big Ones are patchy but still worth getting. I'm serious when I say that comparing output-to-good-song ratio, the Beach Boys win over any other band.
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 19 June 2003 17:43 (twenty-three years ago)
Brian Wilson Readies All-New Recording Of Legendary "SMiLE"
Long-awaited Masterpiece to be Released by Nonesuch Records on September 28
Recording Follows Triumphant "SMILE" Performances in Europe With U.S. Tour Planned For The Fall
Thirty-seven years after its anticipated release, an all-new studio recording of SMiLE - often referred to as the most famous unreleased album in history - will be made available worldwide by Nonesuch Records on September 28, 2004. SMiLE will be produced by Brian Wilson and will feature the ten-member band that has supported him on tour over the past five years, augmented by The Stockholm Strings and Horns.
Wilson and lyricist Van Dyke Parks, who collaborated on the original SMiLE session in 1966-67, listened together to the 37-year old tapes in November 2003, following Brian's announcement of his intention to complete and perform SMiLE in a series of concerts in London. Acting as Brian and Van Dyke’s musical secretary, Darian Sahanaja, of Wilson's touring band, began preparing the music for performance. This led to Wilson and Parks creating new material to make the concerts possible.
The public premiere of the finished SMiLE took place at the Royal Festival Hall in London on February 20, 2004 to overwhelming response. The Los Angeles Times said: "What we do know now is that Wilson and Parks created a glorious piece of music whose grand ambition is outstripped only by its inherent beauty and cumulative power." In London, The Guardian referred to SMiLE's "groundbreaking complexity and sophistication" and wrote it seemed "the grandest of American symphonies," while the Daily Telegraph added, "Leonard Bernstein once proclaimed Brian Wilson one of the greatest composers of the 20th century: he was not wrong." The Independent summarized the feeling in the hall: “we knew we’d witnessed a miracle of sorts."
Wilson is currently finishing the new recording of SMiLE at Los Angeles' Sunset Sound studio.
2004 promises to be the year of Brian Wilson. In addition to SMiLE, Wilson is releasing his first solo studio album in over six years, Gettin' In Over My Head (street date: 6/22) which features guest appearances by Eric Clapton, Elton John, Paul McCartney and his late brother Carl Wilson. He intends to perform music from both albums this summer on a UK and European tour and will embark on a U.S. tour in the fall.
Earlier this month Brian Wilson was named a BMI ICON recipient. Wilson is the first songwriter to receive both the President’s Award and the ICON award.
Additionally, Wilson, along with the late composer/conductor/arranger Henry Mancini, and violinist Sarah Chang will be the 2004 Hollywood Bowl Hall of Fame inductees. The opening night concert on Friday, June 25 will feature performances by Wilson and Chang, special appearances by Music Matters spokesperson Josh Groban, Andy Williams, Monica Mancini, and Wilson Phillips, as well as other surprise guests.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― de, Wednesday, 21 July 2004 12:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― thesplooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)
What on earth makes you say that? Have you actually seen / heard him recently? Admittedly his upper range may not be what it once was (he certainly struggles occasionally for some of the higher notes) and possibly his mind isn't either (fwiw I gather he forgot the word to one of the songs when he played at The Eden Project last week) but otherwise his voice is still as clear and smooth and rich as ever....
I'm only 2/3 of his age and have only done and been through a fraction of what Brian has, and I wish my voice was still in such a good condition!
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 22 July 2004 08:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 22 July 2004 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 22 July 2004 12:05 (twenty-one years ago)
ugh, no thanks. i'll take the 'unfinished' originals.
― sherm, Thursday, 22 July 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)
low fi, of course. I'm only at heroes and villans so I can't really say for sure, but this is probably as good as the record is ever going to get.
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 11 September 2004 07:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 11 September 2004 07:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Saturday, 11 September 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 11 September 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Sunday, 12 September 2004 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jimmy Mod, Man About Towne (ModJ), Sunday, 12 September 2004 05:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 12 September 2004 08:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mark (MarkR), Sunday, 12 September 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 12 September 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dominique (dleone), Saturday, 18 September 2004 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― splooge (thesplooge), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― splooge (thesplooge), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Douglas (Douglas), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 18 September 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 18 September 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jimmy Mod, Los Sexx Yanqui (ModJ), Sunday, 19 September 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 23 September 2004 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 23 September 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 23 September 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)
Hi there! Thanks to so many of you for registering on www.smilethealbum.com, the whole SMiLE album is now available for you to listen to. Click here to go straight to the site. All of the artwork has been revealed too!
Hope you love the new album.
Admin www.smilethealbum.com
I haven't listened to it since the whole thing's been up, but the tracks I heard earlier were intriguing.
― JC-L (JC-L), Thursday, 23 September 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 23 September 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 23 September 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― nameom (nameom), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― splooge (thesplooge), Friday, 24 September 2004 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 24 September 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)
But wait: am I the only one that finds it odd how Xgau suddenly thinks this thing was the greatest music ever, having slagged the shit out of its individual songs for years in reviews of post-Smile BB albums? I mean, context is important and all, but it ain't everything...
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 24 September 2004 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dominique (dleone), Friday, 24 September 2004 03:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)
Do you still listen to this or are you more likely to put on the 60s boots?
― Mark Rich@rdson, Friday, 28 March 2008 03:39 (eighteen years ago)
i could never listen to the brian wilson version because i was used to the voices on the bootlegs
― gershy, Friday, 28 March 2008 03:42 (eighteen years ago)
i loved the shit out of this for a while but now the relentless happyness is too much for me
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 28 March 2008 03:56 (eighteen years ago)
I haven't listened to any Brian Wilson or Beach Boys since Smile (2004), but mainly because I STILL hear so many bands all the time doing diluted Pet Sounds or Smile type things.. just burnt out. Try New Infuences, Indie D00ds :/
― Mackro Mackro, Friday, 28 March 2008 03:58 (eighteen years ago)
i still listen to this occasionally
― J0rdan S., Friday, 28 March 2008 04:00 (eighteen years ago)
but that's because i've given more burn to their old stuff so this is still a little bit fresher to me
i listened to it recently, it's nice; the 'new' bits stick out though
― akm, Friday, 28 March 2008 04:02 (eighteen years ago)
sweet things should only be taken in moderation, but every easter i am ready to pig out again so i might give it another spin.
what i really love is the loser's lounge version of surf's up - i think its only accompanied by piano, like brian wilson performed it on TV in the 70s, and is way much more beautiful than the 2004 smile version.
― fantasimundo, Friday, 28 March 2008 08:23 (eighteen years ago)
tooootally, when i wanna hear surf's up i pull up the youtube of that vid instead of this album or the original
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 28 March 2008 08:26 (eighteen years ago)
here here - young brian wilson RULES
― fantasimundo, Friday, 28 March 2008 08:27 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.smileysmile.net/uncanny/media/users/djm/brian-wilson.jpg vs http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/09/12/brian_wilson_narrowweb__300x411,0.jpg
I did out the old stuff.
― Z S, Friday, 28 March 2008 12:49 (eighteen years ago)
That last pic, he is announcing the bingo.
― Mark G, Friday, 28 March 2008 12:53 (eighteen years ago)
"All the twos - uh, are these supposed to be ducks? Oh gee - I feel more like a thirty-nine." Manager: "my office please."
― Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 28 March 2008 13:10 (eighteen years ago)
A bemused Mike Love adds: "is there any relatable boy-girl thing in this bingo?"
― Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 28 March 2008 13:11 (eighteen years ago)
"Wait a minute - a guy dressed in velvet and wearing a fox's head? Sorry, cousin Brian, I'm not gonna play your ego gambling game."
― Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 28 March 2008 13:12 (eighteen years ago)
There will never be enough indie acts influenced by Beach Boys (or The Beatles).
I am sick of way too many acts being way too influenced by Stooges, MC5, Velvet Underground, Pixies or Sonic Youth though. Enough already!
― Geir Hongro, Friday, 28 March 2008 13:39 (eighteen years ago)
No, you're just sick.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 28 March 2008 13:40 (eighteen years ago)
Oh, wej
― Mark G, Friday, 28 March 2008 13:41 (eighteen years ago)
I'm not sure how that happened. I think I was trying to say I prefer the Brian Wilson production in the 1960s to the modern version.
― Z S, Friday, 28 March 2008 17:23 (eighteen years ago)
my bootleg of the original demoes is all scratched up. Wouldn't mind hearing them again. There used to be a link to them - anyone know where?
― the next grozart, Friday, 28 March 2008 19:49 (eighteen years ago)
many lolz
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 28 March 2008 19:56 (eighteen years ago)
My kids like the new version best, but then they were born after it came out. Recommended for the 0 to 4 age group.
― dad a, Friday, 28 March 2008 20:17 (eighteen years ago)
van dye parks on smile
The Smile Sessions are finally being released in September. When somebody mentions Smile, what's the first thing that pops into your head?Crows over a cornfield [a reference to the Parks-penned line in Smile's Cabinessence]. I hear the box set is going to be absolutely beautiful. It will be very comforting to see that it's finally commercially available.
How has your relationship with the songs on Smile changed over the years?I really think they're fine. I don't see any septic quality in them at all. In fact, the unvarnished truth is that they are without malice. Please bring that into the contemporary framework! But I wish, darn it, that it hadn't had so much celebrity. The celebrity of it got in the way. Otherwise, it would have been fine.
Religion, to me, is music. What Brian brought to the table was a closeted understanding of low-church hymns. I knew that that man had a divine regard. That's what really made me want to serve his interest with all my heart. We were coming from entirely separate arenas - he from right-wing comfort and me from the left-wing shock therapy of being out in Los Angeles with no money. I think our common thread was that we shared that music.
Smile is a kind of fevered reimagining of Americana...One time I was at college, studying music, and Aaron Copland came into the room to teach. I was the only undergraduate composition major. I got an A and a pat on the ass. The point is, Mr. Copland was asked during that class, "What is American music?" He said, with a shrug, "American music is anything written in America." I thought that was unforgettable. I like that.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 22:20 (fourteen years ago)
Well, it was a dumb question. Other answers include ".. if you have to ask..."
― Mark G, Thursday, 25 August 2011 08:00 (fourteen years ago)
http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01/richmedia/images/cover.gifhttp://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B004RFYEEC/The long awaited release of the Brian Wilson and Beach Boys masterpiece, Smile Sessions. With the full participation of original Beach Boys Al Jardine, Mike
Love, and Brian Wilson, Capitol/EMI has, for the first time, collected and compiled the band's legendary 1966-'67 sessions for the never-completed SMiLE
album. Rolling Stone magazine recently called SMiLE "the most famous unfinished album in rock & roll history."
In several sessions between the summer of 1966 and early 1967, The Beach Boys recorded a bounty of songs and drafts for an album, SMiLE, that was intended to
follow the band's 1966 album, Pet Sounds. The master tapes were ultimately shelved, and The Beach Boys' SMiLE has never been released. Drawn from the
original masters, SMiLE Sessions presents an in-depth overview of The Beach Boys' recording sessions for the enigmatic album, which has achieved legendary,
mythical status for music fans around the world.
SMiLE Sessions' physical and digital configurations include an assembled collection of core session tracks, while the box set delves much deeper into the
sessions, adding early song drafts, alternate takes, instrumental and vocals-only mixes, and studio chatter. SMiLE Sessions invites the listener into the
studio to experience the album's creation, with producer, singer and bassist Brian Wilson's vision leading the way as he guides his fellow Beach Boys, singer
Mike Love, drummer Dennis Wilson, lead guitarist Carl Wilson, rhythm guitarist Al Jardine, and newest member Bruce Johnston (who'd replaced Brian Wilson in
the touring group during 1965), through the legendary sessions.
Artwork for all of the SMiLE Sessions' physical and digital configurations has been created with and inspired by Beat-Pop artist Frank Holmes' original 1967
LP sleeve art and booklet designs intended for the SMiLE album. With its three-dimensional shadowbox lid, The SMiLE Sessions box set offers a whimsical peek
inside the storied SMiLE Shop.'
Box Set Content
- 5 CDs / 2LPs / 2 7" singles
- Three-dimensional shadow box lid featuring the original artwork of Frank Holmes.
- The Box Set measures 13" x 13" x 2.5"
- 60 page case bound book features liner notes by:
- Brian Wilson
- Mike Love
- Al Jardine
- Bruce Johnston
- Frank Holmes
- Peter Reum
- Tom Nolan
- Dominic Priore
- Anecdotes by:
- Marilyn Wilson-Rutherford
- Diane Rovell
- Dean Torrence
- Mark Volman
- Michael Vosse
- David Anderle
- Danny Hutton
- Timeline
- Sessionography
- Lyrics
- Frank Holmes drawings
- Producer's Notes
- More than 60 previously unreleased photos
- Box also contains:
- 6 panel folder holding 5 CDs and singles. Features photos of original session tape boxes.
- 7" vinyl singles
- "Heroes and Villians" in sleeve art
- Vega-Tables" in sleeve art
- Gatefold 2 LPs
- Features full tracklisting of proposed unfinished album +
- Stereo mixes and session highlights (not available on CDs)
- 12" x 12" booklet created for original release features:
- Photos by Guy Webster
- Drawings by Frank Holmes
- 24" x 36" poster of Frank Holmes cover art
― tylerw, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:32 (fourteen years ago)
here's the tracklisting of the 2CD version
Disc: 11. Our Prayer2. Gee3. Heroes And Villains4. Do You Like Worms (Roll Plymouth Rock)5. I'm In Great Shape6. Barnyard7. My Only Sunshine (The Old Master Painter / You Are My Sunshine)8. Cabin Essence9. Wonderful10. Look (Song For Children)11. Child Is Father Of The Man12. Surf's Up13. I Wanna Be Around / Workshop14. Vega-Tables15. Holidays16. Wind Chimes17. The Elements: Fire (Mrs. O'Leary's Cow)18. Love To Say Dada19. Good Vibrations20. You're Welcome (Bonus Track)21. Heroes And Villains (Stereo Mix) (Bonus Track)22. Heroes And Villains Sections (Stereo Mix) (Bonus Track)23. Vega-Tables Demo (Bonus Track)24. He Gives Speeches (Bonus Track)25. Smile Backing Vocals Montage (Bonus Track)26. Surf's Up 1967 (Solo version) (Bonus Track)27. Psycodelic Sounds: Brian Falls Into A Piano (Bonus Track)Disc: 21. Our Prayer "Dialog" (9/19/66) 3:022. Heroes and Villains (Part 1) 3:083. Heroes and Villains (Part 2) 4:184. Heroes and Villains: Children Were Raised (1/27/67) 2:075. Heroes and Villains: Prelude to Fade (2/15/67) 3:426. My Only Sunshine (11/14/66) 6:527. Cabin Essence (10/3/66) 5:198. Surf's Up: 1st Movement (11/4/66) 4:559. Surf's Up Piano Demo (12/15/66) 3:5310. Vegetables Fade (4/12/67) 5:2511. The Elements: Fire session (11/28/66) 8:2712. Cool Cool Water version 2 (10/26-10/29/67) 3:3213. Good Vibrations Session Highlights 8:2014. Psycodelic Sounds: Brian Falls Into A Microphone (11/4/66) 1:10 (Hidden Track)
― tylerw, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:36 (fourteen years ago)
sounds like there will be a few new things at least
― iatee, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
that box set is pretty and all but lots of money for something that will sit on my shelf and never get opened.
― skip, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:39 (fourteen years ago)
i dunno, it's going to be hard for me to resist tbh. not expecting amazing new stuff, but pretty psyched just to have an official release. the smile tracklisting is basically the same as the brian wilson 2004 version, right?
― tylerw, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
promo video here: http://www.amazon.com/The-Beach-Boys/e/B000APTGZ0/ref=ntt_mus_dp_pel
― skip, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
my big question is what version of Surf's Up they're going to use.
― skip, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
and whether they brickwall the shit out of this.
― skip, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
i'm hoping it's the long rumored "mike love on lead vocals" surf's up version
― tylerw, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
60 page case bound book features liner notes by:
"fuck this shit imo"
― buzza, Saturday, 27 August 2011 20:11 (fourteen years ago)
"columnated ruins dom--give me me a fucking break!"
― tylerw, Saturday, 27 August 2011 20:25 (fourteen years ago)
Does it have the 'party' where they all sit in a boat and vote on who to evict, and the vote goes "Mike Love", and the rest of the tape is they laffing and MLove getting irate from someplace off-mic?
This was a track on a Smile boot, and when the first series of "Big Brother" was described to me, I said it was on a Beach Boys bootleg, at which point everyone thought I'd misheard or misunderstood.
Any road, if not: Does anyone have this? I sold it ages ago.
― Mark G, Saturday, 27 August 2011 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
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― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 16:10 (fourteen years ago)
mark, you might be thinking of the track "smile era party" from the excellent vigotone bootleg.
http://www.vigotone.com/vigotone/vigotone110-111.htm
― akaky akakievich, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 17:11 (fourteen years ago)
here's an excerpt -- not the whole thing. http://www.bigozine1a.com/MPX3/BBxsmile/BBxsmile238.mp3
― tylerw, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 17:16 (fourteen years ago)
http://images.merchdirect.com/14652-33968SMiLE LIGHT UP Box Set+Surfboard$5999.99
― Mark G, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:56 (fourteen years ago)
Oh mah GAWD!
― Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:10 (fourteen years ago)
A fokken sorf bord!!!
Be annoyed if they'd charged $6000 for it
― Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:13 (fourteen years ago)
That does sound ridiculous - I mean, a grand would seem over the top, but 6 grand?
― Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:16 (fourteen years ago)
Apparently, it's 'signed'...
― Mark G, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:36 (fourteen years ago)
I'd only consider buying that if I could get to be a weirdo photographed with Mike Love
― Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:39 (fourteen years ago)
Maybe a signed apple juice jug?
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:06 (fourteen years ago)
there's a competition to come up with a concept for a music video for either Good Vibrations or Heroes & Villains. Should we come up with one together? The treatment has to be under 250 words.
― Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:08 (fourteen years ago)
I think it should involve a keyhole surgery cam
― Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:09 (fourteen years ago)
remember when the Brian Wilson Smile topped every critic's list humanly possible in 2004 and then everyone tried to forget it existed by spring 2005.
― delmar dillinger (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:12 (fourteen years ago)
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqslunl4aK1qjhphb.jpg
― fit and working again, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:13 (fourteen years ago)
more of this?
― Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:14 (fourteen years ago)
was originally posted on the bb poll thread: http://mikelovenotwarcomic.tumblr.com/
― fit and working again, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:22 (fourteen years ago)
I wonder how well this will sell - I think it could have been huge in 1990, but nowadays nearly everyone that would wants a multi-disc Smile set already has a bootleg or two or three.
OTOH, last year's limited-edition $150 Sandy Denny megabox is already fetching $600 on eBay, so maybe the big set with the lighted signs, surfboard, and 45rpm singles will quickly become a collector's item (I hope they're kidding about $5,999). I'll probably buy the 2 CD set, though will wait to read reactions to the different packages before buying. This is one time I definitely want a physical package rather than a download - so I'll have the booklet and all.
Finally having a 7" single of Heroes & Villians part 1 b/w part 2 will be cool, after decades of only having sleeve art. I've heard boots, but never seen it pressed on a 45rpm single the way it was originally intended for release, and obviously not an official release.
All those people on the liner notes and anecdotes but not VDP, wonder why?
― Lee547 (Lee626), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
hmm, he's really not in there? would be surprising. he was involved in the 2004 smile, seems like he'd at least be interviewed here.
― tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
I don't see him mentioned in your post from Aug 27 3:36pm - I haven't looked at the official press releases or website yet
― Lee547 (Lee626), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:16 (fourteen years ago)
i mean, maybe mike love has edged him out again, who knows. love's essay will probably begin with the words "When I wrote 'Cabinessence,' I knew I was onto some crazy stuff, man."i'm hoping that i get the deluxe set for xmas, couldn't really afford it otherwise. maybe i'm a sucker, but it ... it looks neat!
― tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
When I wrote 'Cabinessence,' I knew I was onto some crazy stuff, man.
I lol'd
― I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
Actually I can't wait to read Mike Love's liner notes for the lulz....
― Lee547 (Lee626), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
I had been listening to a lot of Copland, you know, and smoking a lot of really great Costa Rican hash, and I was like -- "Heroes & Villains, man, that's the story of America!" The rest just flowed from there. -Mike Lovehttp://massive2011.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/mike-love-150x150.jpg
― tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
isn't everyone kidding themselves when they think they're not buying this the day it comes out?
― Dominique, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
i will if i stumble across $150 in the street that day.
― tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
I bought the 2004 Smile the day it was released
― Lee547 (Lee626), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:44 (fourteen years ago)
So what extras will the basic 2 CD set include? I hope at least a CD-size version of the original booklet, and some new liner notes/anecdotes
― Lee547 (Lee626), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:47 (fourteen years ago)
I don't really need this what with all the bootleg stuff I've already got. plus I'm poor. I guess if someone bought it for me a present I wouldn't complain. primarily interested in the liner notes/package/vinyl fetishism angle than any of the actual music, most of which looks like things I've heard before. except maybe now it's all been dynamic range limited/compressed lol
― I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, I guess I have a lot of this already too. Just the fun of getting it, and listening to a for real beach boys Smile is a little too much for me to pretend I'm over it. Really, what I'll probably do is dig up $150 worth of CDs to trade in at Amoeba
― Dominique, Friday, 2 September 2011 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, as much as i dig my smile bootlegs, they're all kind of a mess, and in varying sound quality. i like the idea of a professional presentation of this material. hope the remastering is a-OK, supervised by mike love himself.
― tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 21:04 (fourteen years ago)
Are the "Brian Fell Into..." tracks related to "George Fell Into His French Horn" on the Vigotone boot?
― Lee547 (Lee626), Saturday, 3 September 2011 00:02 (fourteen years ago)
er that's "Brian Falls Into A Piano" and "Brian Falls Into A Microphone"
― Lee547 (Lee626), Saturday, 3 September 2011 00:04 (fourteen years ago)
"Brian Falls Into a Drug Induced Stuopr and Soils Himself"
― Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Monday, 5 September 2011 09:35 (fourteen years ago)
Stupor even
Mike Love delayed the "Pet Sounds" box as there was no real mention of the BB's themselves. The additional booklet, to cover this, was right and proper.
I kinda get the impression VDP's contributions will be part of the "well, yeah obviously" section.
― Mark G, Monday, 5 September 2011 09:53 (fourteen years ago)
Mike Love delayed the "Pet Sounds" box as there was no real mention of the BB's themselves.
Too right, well done Mike.
― Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Monday, 5 September 2011 10:09 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag-K0vEagPc
― tylerw, Friday, 9 September 2011 16:35 (fourteen years ago)
not really hearing anything new there
― you will always be wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 September 2011 16:49 (fourteen years ago)
only thing i noticed (which may be on some bootlegs i don't know) is the sorta dissonant string thing linking two sections on H&V.
― tylerw, Friday, 9 September 2011 16:50 (fourteen years ago)
same thought as you tyler--never heard that part before. Very strange to hear the 2004 sessions spliced in there with the Mark Linett name on it.
― skip, Friday, 9 September 2011 17:06 (fourteen years ago)
you think that's actually from the 2004 sessions? is that how this is going to be -- mixing 'n' matching parts from 1967 and 2004?
― tylerw, Friday, 9 September 2011 17:08 (fourteen years ago)
I take that back, it's not from 04.
― skip, Friday, 9 September 2011 17:11 (fourteen years ago)
nothing from 2004 is being used in this collection
― akm, Friday, 9 September 2011 17:16 (fourteen years ago)
this did stick out to me but it was also familiar - I'm not sure where I would have come across it tho.
― you will always be wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 September 2011 17:17 (fourteen years ago)
George fell into his french horn?
― skip, Friday, 9 September 2011 17:20 (fourteen years ago)
I don't remember hearing the "woo woo woo" part before "you're under arrest" before.
― the wheelie king (wk), Friday, 9 September 2011 17:36 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, that's on the 2004 version iirc. jesus this is so confusing. gonna have to quit my job and sort it all out once this is released.
― tylerw, Friday, 9 September 2011 17:38 (fourteen years ago)
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=10946.msg207582#msg207582
Heroes and Villains...STUNNING. Breakdown--Verse 1: has no more "carnival" organ. Ends with the dum-be-doo-be-do-waa vox.-Chorus: Same as the single version (Heroes and villains, just see etc...)-Verse 2: This is the "la-la-la" section. Same as single, has the organ in it.-Section 4: Same as the single (doo doo do doo, etc...) with the exception of the slide whistle going off at what seems to be a different time of the section.-Section 5: Cantina section. Has the laughing and "DAAAAAANCE" backing on it. The part leading up to the woo woo woo woo woo's is MUCH clearer then ever before. Still has "YOU'RE UNDER ARREST"-Section 6: My children were raised...still the same.-Section 7: Been in this town...same. Transition easier though then before to.-Chorus 2: Same.-Section 8: Bridge to Indians (I believe that's what it's called. "Ahhaahahahahah" you get the picture Tongue) Transitions nicely into-Section 9: Western theme and this is also much clearer then before.-End: The flutter horn with the strings that's been booted but nicer sounding.
― skip, Friday, 9 September 2011 18:57 (fourteen years ago)
I was thinking that the western theme was lifted from 04 because it's so clear, and the Smile reconstructions often took that section from 04 because the boots sounded so horrible, but it's just really damn clear.
― skip, Friday, 9 September 2011 18:59 (fourteen years ago)
yeah this is what I was thinking too...?
― you will always be wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 September 2011 19:02 (fourteen years ago)
hey guys
i'm a little confused, the whole smile thing is so mixed up
but basically
this new "smile sessions" is an attempt to create the original vision for what smile was supposed to be...using only recordings from that time period?
(basically?)
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 September 2011 19:39 (fourteen years ago)
not really. its a release of all the recordings from the original Smile sessions
― you will always be wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 September 2011 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
so you get like an hour and a half of various takes of Heroes and Villains etc
well, the first disc is a reconstruction of what smile was supposed to be/could've been. they seem to be using the 2004 version as a template, but all of the recordings come from 1966-67.
― tylerw, Friday, 9 September 2011 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
I'm interviewing VD Parks next week and was specifically told not to ask him about Smile. Which is okay, as there's plenty to ask him otherwise, but still I worry that he's being scrubbed from the record.
― beta blog, Friday, 9 September 2011 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
blecch that stinks. seems weird, but oh well. you should ask him about grace kelly.
― tylerw, Friday, 9 September 2011 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
these are great btw http://www.bananastan.com/singles.html
― tylerw, Friday, 9 September 2011 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
Ask him about David Lynch/Twin Peaks, he played Leo's attorney.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 9 September 2011 20:14 (fourteen years ago)
Those VDP singles have some vintage RAW mag artwork
― dan selzer, Friday, 9 September 2011 20:39 (fourteen years ago)
ask him about Faerie Tale Theatre!http://www.imdb.com/video/hulu/vi952042521/
― the wheelie king (wk), Friday, 9 September 2011 20:41 (fourteen years ago)
tyler, it only seems weird until you think about this:Can we be shown weirdos + Mike Love?
who/ what else should i ask him about? Goldie Hawn reggae?http://rateyourmusic.com/release/single/goldie_hawn/pitta_patta__mono____pitta_patta__stereo_/
― beta blog, Friday, 9 September 2011 21:49 (fourteen years ago)
Ask him what The Mighty Sparrow is like to hang out with
― Number None, Friday, 9 September 2011 21:51 (fourteen years ago)
^^^^
― you will always be wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 September 2011 21:59 (fourteen years ago)
Ask him about Jackie Gleason!
― Lee547 (Lee626), Friday, 9 September 2011 23:20 (fourteen years ago)
It's the animated unboxing!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvB0glRsolw
― life should have a slow-moving fan (Lee626), Friday, 9 September 2011 23:31 (fourteen years ago)
I'm interviewing VD Parks next week and was specifically told not to ask him about Smile. Which is okay, as there's plenty to ask him otherwise, but still I worry that he's being scrubbed from the record.― beta blog, Friday, September 9, 2011 7:41 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
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Ask him if Song Cycle really is a concept album about the death of his brother. And then politely ask him to go song-by-song giving the details of said interpretation, kthxbi
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 10 September 2011 00:40 (fourteen years ago)
the A cover of Wall Street is sampled from a RAW cover, but the B looks like an actual Spieg commission - that painting style is post-NYer for him. None of the others look anything like RAW stuff that I'm familiar with
― challopian rubes (sic), Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:31 (fourteen years ago)
I just recognized the one and decided to yell out "bunch of RAW art!"
― dan selzer, Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:30 (fourteen years ago)
and this is why I stopped reading BBs message boards.
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=11058.msg211808#msg211808
― skip, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:40 (fourteen years ago)
good lord - there's like seven kinds of crazy on that board.
I love these quotes, though:
• "Only damage can arise from this temporary, fleeting image of success known as The Beach Boys." —MURRY WILSON• "A musician expends as much energy in half an hour as a lumberjack does in 8 hours." —AL JARDINE• "I used to pretend I was playing a guitar on a toothpick." —CARL WILSON• "Brian Wilson is not a good looking human being." —DENNIS WILSON• "I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once." —BRUCE JOHNSTON• "I gave her the best 8 seconds of her life.” —DAVID MARKS• "People are thinking Mike Love is crazy." —MIKE LOVE• "Mike Love? He's Crazy." —BRIAN WILSON
― Darin, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 20:35 (fourteen years ago)
thanking you
― I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 20:48 (fourteen years ago)
lol - def the best quote!
― Darin, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 21:15 (fourteen years ago)
I have to agree with Darin, that board is plentifully crazy, and the level of obsessive analysis really does frighten me sometimes!
― Turrican, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 21:22 (fourteen years ago)
omg
Smile would never have been conceptually conceived had Brian been 'dry' - in fact he was full of conserved energy from not ejaculating. Brian mentioned this around the time - that when you cum you lose creative energy, genius, seed, potential, etc. Just saving it up for a while shows you this - cool it for a while and see how your mind improves. Smile the initial urge of conception was from channeling sexual energy into the brain for creative purposes rather than ordinary sexual. Smile did not become what it set out to be because Brian lost his seed either once [losing the entire synthesis of the idea as it resided in his brain] or through once and continual losses. With whoever, Marilyn or Diane or Barbara. Any of the groovy chicks Brian was probably checking out when he saw them. Anyway, that's the secret. That's why Smiley got crude and kind of perverted at times. And Wild Honey continued it. Charles Manson sex guru came on the scene shortly after. They were never as innocent as Smile again. Brian Wilson in the 1970s seems to have had a masturbation addiction. Sobering facts about our beloved guru of sound.
― iatee, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 21:23 (fourteen years ago)
Sobering facts about our beloved guru of sound.Sobering facts about our beloved guru of sound.Sobering facts about our beloved guru of sound.Sobering facts about our beloved guru of sound.Sobering facts about our beloved guru of sound.Sobering facts about our beloved guru of sound.Sobering facts about our beloved guru of sound.Sobering facts about our beloved guru of sound.Sobering facts about our beloved guru of sound.
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 21:24 (fourteen years ago)
anyway that's the secret.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 21:25 (fourteen years ago)
Where do those people come from!?
― Turrican, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 21:37 (fourteen years ago)
They fall out of George's french horn
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 21:44 (fourteen years ago)
oh boy
― Mark G, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 21:47 (fourteen years ago)
Brian has been quoted saying he has sex twice per day, every day. Brian himself knows, or knew, in the 60s, that, according to the teachings of the oriental mind, semen contains vital brain substances which when not wasted on females are reabsorbed back into the brain and create a more capable brilliant brain. Brian made all his best music due to conserving his semen. The ecstatic chants of California Girls are due to this. It is my own pet theory that SMiLE ceased to become due to Marilyn finally seducing Brian from the piano into the marital bed. Call me crazy but I think SMiLE was contained in Brian's seed and he lost it. Perhaps it became an expertly crafted sandwich. Or Carnie.
Theory: if Brian goes celibate for a few months, he will recover his mid-60s songwriting muse and go on to another 40 years of brilliance.
― skip, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 21:53 (fourteen years ago)
*comedy drumroll*
― Turrican, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 21:54 (fourteen years ago)
engineer Mark Linnet interview re: this project
http://www.iconfetch.com/great-music-interviews/2011-shows/406-mark-linett-beach-boys-smile-interview.html
― Dominique, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 17:14 (fourteen years ago)
Interesting that he blames Brian's inability to finish Smile in 1967 primarily on technical issues and the complexity of compiling a single LP out of over 6 hours of disjointed recordingghe more common theories that have floated around other the years that Brian was too unstabile to finish it.
Appaently, the vinyl record(s) will be issued separately as well as included in the large deluxe box set
― Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 17:47 (fourteen years ago)
It's not hard to see how the complexity of compiling a single LP from 6 hours of stuff and Brian's mental instability may be linked...
― skip, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 18:20 (fourteen years ago)
interesting interview! thx for posting. pretty amazing, the scope of the project. makes you wonder if linnet at this point never wants to hear this stuff ever again!
― tylerw, Thursday, 13 October 2011 17:32 (fourteen years ago)
listening to the box set recently, this is the first time I've listened to smile, the only real beach boys I've really listen to closely is surf's up, so this is way overwhelming for me
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 23:19 (fourteen years ago)
I knew they were good and shit but I didn't know they were this good
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 23:25 (fourteen years ago)
or insane rather
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 23:26 (fourteen years ago)