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What are the records in 2003 that you are the most disapointed of?

― C11 (C11), Monday, 15 September 2003 22:00 (twenty-two years ago)

* RADIOHEAD: Hail to the thief
* GRANDADDY: Sumday
* ELYSIAN FIELD: The Dream that...

― C11 (C11), Monday, 15 September 2003 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

radiohead, yo la tengo, libertines

― the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 15 September 2003 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)

the clearlake record

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Monday, 15 September 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Yo La Tengo (Their worst since New Wave Hot Dogs), Radiohead (Their worst). The Grandaddy album is pretty good!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 September 2003 22:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Radiohead, not their worst for me. Amnesiac was really bad...

Grandaddy, the LP is not bad but not good (that's why the thread title indicate disapointed and not worst :) ).

― C11 (C11), Monday, 15 September 2003 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Hail to the Thief and the Mars Volta one.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 September 2003 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

yo la tengo, outkast, stephen malkmus (though I've slightly "come around"), lucinda williams, rufus wainwright, "shake ya tailfeather", "me against the music", liz phair, fountains of wayne

― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 15 September 2003 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)

BROADCAST

― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 15 September 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

i am expecting to be disappointed by the BRMC newie

― the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 15 September 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

haha I dig Liz Phair and Fountains Of Wayne too. I guess I wasn't too disappointed by stuff this year cuz I either didn't expect much (Grandaddy for instance) or didn't buy it if it looked bad.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 September 2003 22:26 (twenty-two years ago)

the liz phair is better than the haters say but not as good as the lovers say (it's no globe sessions!). the fountains of wayne I was just shocked when I actually heard it, my hopes weren't really high, but I always thought their first album was really really good late alt-rock, remember hearing from friends their second album was great power pop, and saw husannahs left and right for the new one, so when I heard it I was very surprised at how weak and not particularly catchy it was (good charlotte are cheap trick in comparison). weirdest letdown since species II.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 15 September 2003 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll agree with you on the Phair (though the album sounds better with every listen) and I don't get mad at the Fountains of Wayne album until the country-style genre exercise. and I reeeally wasn't expecting much from Fountains Of Wayne, so I was impressed that their songs were a lot more tender re: their subjects. It's got a bit more heart than their earlier stuff, I think.

Good Charlotte's album is better than any Cheap Trick album. (oooo that was fun to say)

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 September 2003 22:38 (twenty-two years ago)

though none of Good Charlotte's songs as are as good as "He's A Whore," "She's Tight" or "Surrender." (to be fair)

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 September 2003 22:39 (twenty-two years ago)

radiohead, luomo, bonecrusher, ted leo, spiritualized (well the last one was pretty bad too)

― Michael B, Monday, 15 September 2003 22:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Eels, Sludgefeast, Themroc

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 September 2003 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)

my morning jacket........don't get all the hype,sounds like a pale version of the outlaws [and that is not a good thing]

― william (william), Monday, 15 September 2003 22:51 (twenty-two years ago)

the coral (does the lead singer ever shut up?), grandaddy, mogwai, white stripes

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Monday, 15 September 2003 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)

btw....was not a fan of 'hail to the thief ' either til i saw most of it played live the other week. liking it A LOT more now.

― william (william), Monday, 15 September 2003 22:53 (twenty-two years ago)

oooo that was fun to say

He who fucks Good Charlotte CDs will eventually join the church of Nielsen.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 September 2003 22:54 (twenty-two years ago)

The Eels quite good for me, the coral's too!

― C11 (C11), Monday, 15 September 2003 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)

people who are disappointed of the new radiohead, what are you disappointed of?

― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 15 September 2003 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I have no idea what you could be disappointed with in the Fountains of Wayne CD. The CD is solid gold from track 1 through track 12.

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Monday, 15 September 2003 23:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Kenny OTM.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 September 2003 23:06 (twenty-two years ago)

FoW: Solid, maybe. But the shelflife on songs like those is quite short (for me, anyway).

Madonna ruined my year. Some of the songs on American Life are fine, but Mirwais has GOT TO GO.

― Andrew Frye (paul cox), Monday, 15 September 2003 23:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I loved the new Yo La Tengo. Season of the Shark is probably my favorite song they've ever recorded.

― David Allen, Monday, 15 September 2003 23:13 (twenty-two years ago)

awww... what's with da radiohead hate?
I was EXTREMELY disappointed by the Gorky's album. A real shame - I just switch off when I try and listen to it.

The Aphex Twin remixes was a bit dull and seemed to miss some essential stuff...

Blur's album wasn't as good as I first thought.

― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 15 September 2003 23:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Disappointed is too strong a word, but after 3 listens the new Pretty Girls Make Graves doesn't make me jump around the living room like I was hoping.

― JesseFox (JesseFox), Monday, 15 September 2003 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I told you so, Jesse!

― mte, Monday, 15 September 2003 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Radiohead, Yo La, Outkast, White Stripes ... liked all of them, even though they're probably not classics, except maybe for the Yo La album, which is luuuuuuvly.

I've been extremely dissapointed, though, with Tricky, Common and Black Eyed Peas.

― Jay Kid (Jay K), Monday, 15 September 2003 23:42 (twenty-two years ago)

joe budden, elephant man, the cuts, reigning sound

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 15 September 2003 23:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm disappointed in Hail To The Thief cuz it's the first Radiohead album where not a single damn song transcends Thom Yorke's malarkey -which itself has gotten even worse (even Amnesiac had "I Might Be Wrong"). The songs seem overfucked with and obtuse. They may have shot their wad with Kid A. I certainly can't see why Thom Yorke would get less indulgent anytime soon.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 September 2003 23:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Tricky? It's now usual to be disapointed of his records.

For the RH, i don't know: for me, it's just a best of. I mean, it's just some tracks, put in a certain order. I don't feel a real cohesion. There are great tracks (2+2=5, There There, A Wolf at the door) but some many really bad!!

― C11 (C11), Monday, 15 September 2003 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, I expected pure shit from Tricky's new album and he delivered! No disappointment at all.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 September 2003 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Definitely not Radiohead. "Hail To The Thief" is a major step in the right direction after the failed experimentation of its two predecessors.

Grandaddy's was great too. Haven't heard any major disappointments yet, really.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 15 September 2003 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)

the noonday underground and puressence albums were both pale shadows of their predecessors

― the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 15 September 2003 23:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, you guys might be right about the Trickster, but I was just kind of naively hoping that he wouldn't kill his career altogether. But, of course, he did. Hering him live was even more depressing. Shit poor, really. Kindalike a new wave band with a cheesy funk drummer. Urgh. But I don't suppose he can ruin his rep any further anyway ...

― Jay Kid (Jay K), Monday, 15 September 2003 23:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Grandaddy made just a good record. But compared to SOPHTWARE SLUMP...

― C11 (C11), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 00:02 (twenty-two years ago)

new Tricky is way better than his last three albums, which may not be saying a lot, but it's still pretty good. Fountains of Wayne are so boring and whiny, I don't understand the fuss at all.

― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 00:04 (twenty-two years ago)

MM, you're OTM about Tricky's recent albums, but that's really what's sad, isn't it, as the new one is still kinda lame.

― Jay Kid (Jay K), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 00:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Broken Social Scene ... don't see what the big deal is.
Kings of Leon ... good start, yuck middle.

― Chris O., Tuesday, 16 September 2003 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)

The Thrills too. Big Buzz, no fuzz

― C11 (C11), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 00:13 (twenty-two years ago)

The new Enon is sort of underwhelming after the greatness of "High Society." Speaking of Enon, their old lablemates Thou's album "Elvis or Betty Boop" actually came out in 2002, but there was no way I could find (including contacting the band) to buy it in the US till recently, so I'm counting it for 2003. And it, much like "Hocus Pocus," fails to improve on what came before. Someone ask Portishead to give Thou some more leftover backing tracks!! The new Ween is, unfortunately, just plain boring. And the new Black Lipstick album fails to live up to their EP. To be fair, that EP did set a pretty high standard. Oh, and the new blur *doesn't* hold up so well.

Aside from that, everything rocks!!

― dlp9001, Tuesday, 16 September 2003 00:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I told you so, Jesse!

But I still say Good Health is a fine piece of work (i.e. lots of living-room-jumping-around material). And this one could grow on me.

― JesseFox (JesseFox), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 00:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Disappointed with the Manitoba after all the positive press. I thought the Puressence album was up with their best work.

― Jeremy (Jeremy), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 00:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Puressence: Only Forever was marvellus, Planet Helpless is boring...

― C11 (C11), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 00:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Sadly, it seems like most of the 2003 albums that I've bought have been on the underwhelming side and I've had far more joy exploring back-catalogue stuff. Nick Cave's 'Nocturama' has been the biggest let-down, sheer tosh.

― Ben Dot, Tuesday, 16 September 2003 00:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I love Hail to the Thief, though in comparison to Amnesiac, it's fairly disappointing. Still the best album I've heard all year. I haven't bothered listening to a lot of higher profile albums that I had expectations for yet, because I fear disappointment. I suppose there are a lot of hyped albums I found disappointing, though that wasn't really a personal disappointment.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 00:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Agree with Jesse Fox about Pretty Girls Make Graves (though "The Teeth Collector" is pretty darn swell). Two bands I normally enjoy, American Analog Set and Lilys, both put out decidedly blah albums this year. And that Mars Volta album... well, I didn't have any expectations going into it, but man, that shit is dire.

More YLT love over here: it took me a while (much longer than any of their other albums), but I've grown to love Summer Sun.

― Nick Mirov (nick), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 00:34 (twenty-two years ago)

as a die-hard Tricky fan I only listened to the album 1 and a half times and have yet to try again (kinda impatient about it all) but lemme just tell you...after the atrocity that was Blowback i wasn't expecting ANYTHING even bearable and so i was somewhat pleased that it least this album didn't have Ed fucking Kowalccyzycyk-Live-man snorting through its "singles" (i really thought that, the Nirvana cover, and the Chili Peppers and ugh-reggae songs will go down as his absolute nadir)...it IS a very minor step in the right direction, even though he has a souless Martina clone, maybe he'll find a better voice next time around. I really wish Neneh Cherry or Polly Harvey would work w/ him again..(even though the fact that he produced 3 songs on the new Martina album can kind of give us illusory hope that maybe they can reconcile musically, if not romantically)

i had really low expectations for Radiohead and they really surprisingly pleased; the album sounds like a consolidation of their experimental tendencies and old melodic skills (listen to that punch up wedding song again) since they're actually making SONGS again, not dry pretentious unoriginal soundscapes like the title rack to Kid A which sounded quite foolish then and seem laughable now (why was that art-rock humdrum referred to as a gigantic statement on "isolation," etc ?) I still don't really care about Thom's dead-mongoose-wailing voice when he overextends himself onthe ballads, but the sonics held my attention this time around and I liked about 8 or 9 of the songs, so I was impressed

i guess after all the hype my major let-down was um, the "No No Nos" (ha ha ha, sorry) - if I read one more article comparing that extremely annoying pigfaced ho to Polly Jean with the words "rock goddess" mentioned, I will scream. I only liked 2 songs on it, and it was all because of the geetar work...there's just no new thoughts there, it's as if you're seeing an episode of some VH1 reality show about what an "edgy" new york underground band with an "edgy" female singer whose last name is one mysterious letter and who SINGS ABOUT SEX OH MY GAWD WOW!! is supposed to be like...actually the show would be better

i didn't even know there was going to be a liz record until it happened, and then it was just very much fun reading all the insane reviews, if you could stand back detached from it all (and resisted listening to the record, as i did), it just seems like so much fuss over hardly anything. as if some people aren't allowed to release dud albums without it being The End of and Full Betrayal to the Indie-Ordered Universe oh lordy lord no!! and then reading the other side of the defense w/ people like gina arnold writing about how she's the most influential arteest since elvis..it was all hilarious. i wish someone like this would release an album eveyr year!

i had low expectations of madonna once i heard the evil beast that is mirwais was returning, but she kind of turned all expectations into farce..i kind of think it's funny that she's just moved onto writing children's book about eh, spirituality now (so inspirational after kissing 2 girl mouseketeers!) without publicly blinking at all, as if the music thing was just being done to pay the bills for rocco's future education, oh wait, um ........ i had zero expectations of the white stripes album, but i was very happy with it. maybe i'm turning into a rockist ?

― Vic, Tuesday, 16 September 2003 00:36 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, Ed Kowalcyzk was the best part of that song. I already knew Tricky could whisper, had no idea Ed could pull off a chorus hook.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 01:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Massive Attack. (sob)

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 01:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Radiohead
Liz Phair
Matt Sugg
Dandy Warhols
Cat Power

It's weird how disappointment can stem from not only what I'm expecting but from what I'm hoping.

― don weiner, Tuesday, 16 September 2003 01:51 (twenty-two years ago)

OUTKAST

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 02:06 (twenty-two years ago)

ah yes, that wretched Cat Power album. not surprising that i forgot, considering how underwhelming it is

― the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 02:22 (twenty-two years ago)

aye Massive Attack how could I forget thee - but no, wait, there is another album on the horizon, and it features the member who's NOT involved w/ chil porno yay!!!!

― Vic (Vic), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 02:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Hail to the Thief was a slight dissapointment, but it's still pretty good. That new BRMC is decent, but it has nothing on their debut. Massive Attack was a dissapointment, but I absolutely love it now, it'll probably make my top 10. Too bad I can't say the same for Tricky. Vulnerable is fucking dire!

Goddamn, I feel like a fool for even buying this swill. I made it as far as the 8th track and I had to stop. That was a couple of months ago and I haven't listened to it since and I don't think I'm going to. Without a doubt, my year's worst.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed about that Outkast, but I've heard some bad things so far. When I first heard that they were doing a split double album I figured that it would be either brilliant or fucking atrocious. Here's hoping...

The new YLT is alright, but it doesn't hold a candle to their previous two. That Mars Volta record is beautiful! As of right now it's my album of the year with Kenna's New Sacred Cow a close second.

― Brenya, Tuesday, 16 September 2003 02:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Freeway's album should have been much better. He rocked it, but the production was some UN-original shat. 'cept for the one with Nate Dogg.

― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 03:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Saloon's If We Meet in the Future. Not that it is bad or anything, but I was just expecting more than just the first album again.

― svend d, Tuesday, 16 September 2003 03:57 (twenty-two years ago)

add massive attack and cat power to my pile also

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 04:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought the previous two Radioheads were interesting-yet-boring. I think Hail to the Thief is boring-yet-boring. While there are some production effects that are diverting, the album is an active annoyance. That said, whenver I have such a strong reaction to something it usually means I'll end up loving it in a few years so who knows.

― Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 04:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner.

I think my expectations were super duper high though, like from what I'd read here there and everywhere, anything less than complete and total enlightenment would've disappointed me. I just wish I'd heard it before the hype.

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 04:57 (twenty-two years ago)

WELCOME TO THE MONKEY HOUSE - Dandy Warhols: this album sucks!!!

― C11 (C11), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 04:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Mogwai and Dirty Three, because both have exactly one good song on 'em ("Hunted by a Freak" and "She Has No Strings," respectively), but the rest is too plodding. I like the Radiohead, actually, but I'm still new to Radiohead fandom and aren't yet weary of their antics.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 05:03 (twenty-two years ago)

jaymc - did you like whatever you love, you are? I've been wondering about that dirty three but what I've heard matches your impression

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 05:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I liked Whatever You Love a lot, actually -- which is why this one was so disappointing. The songs either don't go anywhere at all, or change pace too abruptly -- instead of gradually building themselves into a frenzy, which is what they do best, I think.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 05:13 (twenty-two years ago)

ok, I liked whatever you love alot too

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 05:21 (twenty-two years ago)

New Pornographers. For no apparent reason, I suddenly find Carl Newman and Dan Bejar really irritating. Although It's Only Divine Right is amazing, to be fair.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 05:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Massive Attack. Maybe they should team up with Prince and do a New Age record?

― nathalie (nathalie), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 06:15 (twenty-two years ago)

The first track on the Massive Attack album is awesome - their mistake is then making another eight or so tracks which are in a similar vein but which never match that first peak.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 06:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I rather like the Massive Attack record. I thought they were kaput so it was a pleasant surprise. Sinead O'Connor makes a surprisingly good diva-of-the-album.

After everything written on Dizzee, it'd have to be Ragnarok in record form to really impress me. It's still great in bits (Fix Up Look Sharp especially) and I went through a week of infatuation with "I Luv U" like everyone, but mainly because a sound effect over the duet part is straight outta Fruity Loops!

― rob geary (rgeary), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 06:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't even bring myself to listen to Tricky at this point

― rob geary (rgeary), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 06:54 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, I also had to take the Tricky CD off 2/3s into it. Excruciating..
another vote for Massive Attack and Beyonce (altho never having heard it in full),

― Fabrice (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 07:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Erase Errata's At Crystal Palace is good but a let down after their debut + 3 years.

― mei (mei), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 07:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Tim Finney OTM about Massive; I loved, nay, adored it for a month but am very much nonplussed by it. That opening track though - fucking hell...

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 07:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Beyoncé, Massive Attack, Bonnie 'Prince' Billy and Mogwai - I was expecting better things from all of these albums, and none delivered.

The Radiohead album wasn't disappointing in that I only ever expected a mediocre album with a couple of great moments and rather more wanky moments. It's not as if they've ever released an album which is more than that.

I don't see what there is not to love about You Are Free.

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 08:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Now I actually own the Rapture CD instead of just hearing MP3s from it on random playlist I'm a bit blah about it. His voice is unspeakable at full length and the one that rips off "Memories" is Interpol-level embarrassing. (Though the great songs on it remain so.)

Most of the records mentioned on this thread I divined would be rubbish anyway with my all-seeing third eye.

I like the Clearlake record though, whoever mentioned that.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 09:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha, Dizzee has just so underwhelmed me I don't know if I'll ever be whelmed again.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 09:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I don't 'get' the Rapture love either (but I have been listening to James Chance & the Contortionists + New York Noise and I don't 'get' that either.) Which I guess just means I don't like this kind of music (um disco punk funk?).

The Luomo record underwhelmed me to bits.

I like the Clearlake record but I haven't listened to it in a while. I suspect that's because it's on a lost MD though.

I really like the David Sylvian record; though perhaps in idea more than in listening. That is, I say I really really like it but I hardly listen to it and when I do I always switch it off after the second song.

Massive Attack and Tricky released albums this year?

― David. (Cozen), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 09:14 (twenty-two years ago)

The Rapture album is definitely not the record I was hoping for. It's good 'n'all, but nothing that spectacular.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 09:17 (twenty-two years ago)

muse - absolution. a more accurate title may of been, absolute overblown rock opera snoozefest. i think thats the only thing ive been disappointed by, having expectations is a bitch. also didnt expect the dandy warhols to turn up the suck that much, but thats expected with their territory.

― kerry getz (kgetz), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 09:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, that's me NOT going out to buy The Rapture today then.

The thing with the Beyoncé album is that the first four songs + Work It Out + her mix of In Da Club = the best six-track EP of the year/decade/ever, and it didn't happen!

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 09:22 (twenty-two years ago)

The Lex, that said I've only listened to it a couple of times and I've mostly got stuck on House of Jealous Lovers (I only heard it for the first time the other day) and repeating that. It may be better than I think.

― David. (Cozen), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 09:25 (twenty-two years ago)

The Lex please don't not get a record on my behalf, I am a seen-it-all hack who has been listening almost entirely to toytown techno and nasty Europop lately, speaking of which I'm really looking forward to the Lene album but I'm guessing it'll end up on this thread. Every album disappoints me eventually.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 09:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes but I have no money and have only heard one Rapture song ever anyway (admittedly I love it and it's not one that anyone ever mentions) so any excuse not to get something is welcomed. I'll find someone who has a copy and borrow it. And now I can get Scout Niblett or something!

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 09:35 (twenty-two years ago)

NO NO GET THE RAPTURE!

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 09:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm fairly disappointed with the new Spiritualized - FOR FUCK'S SAKE JASON STOP WRITING NOISY ROCK SONGS YOU ARE RUBBISH AT IT!

The slow-mo twinkly gospellised ballady stuff is lovely as usual, though.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 09:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh oh oh and the Mis-Teeq album was disappointing because it has a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MIX of 'Can't Get It Back' which is way inferior to the radio version.

I'll probably get nothing now!

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 09:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Get The Rapture before Scout Niblett.

― David. (Cozen), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 09:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I also genuinely do not understand why people who raved all over Amnesiac can be so disappointed by Hail To The Thief. If anything, HTTT seems like a more successful realisation of what they were trying to achieve on Amnesiac.

I second My Morning Jacket and Manitoba.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 09:38 (twenty-two years ago)

And the Super Furries' Phantom Power really loses it after the first few tracks.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 09:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Freeway, Zwan (tho both had great singles), Broken Social Scene.

Radiohead I liked a lot but played too much; the cracks in their armor (read: what they're ripping of, or what they sound like) are beginning to show.

There are so many others, but I can't think of them now...

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 11:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Phantom Power is so inconsistent and ull it's not funny. Three good tracks, tops (but I thought it got better towards the end).

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 11:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Had already forgot that Dandy Warhols released a new album. Huge pile of rubbish. Natural Grace could have been much better - kinda late jumping on the White Stripes train. Kevin Shields stuff from that movie could have been less disappointing as well.

― Pierre, Sweden, Tuesday, 16 September 2003 11:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm disappointed in Hail To The Thief, but then I would be, seeing as they've already made my two favourite albums of all time, so the bar's pretty high.

― Damian (Damian), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 12:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Probably The Warlocks would head that list... but then again, I've avoided disappointment by JUST NOT BUYING BLOODY ANYTHING I WASN'T SURE OF. Works every time.

― kate (kate), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 12:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I am not sure of these blank CDRs I bought.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Turbonegro's album wasn't as good as I hoped it'd be. It was pretty good still but not as good as their previous two.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Luomo and Beyonce are my biggest disappointments (esp. Beyonce, who I thought was going to blow the roof off but under up galumphing in the corner for most of her album).

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Rainer Maria, Gang Starr, and Atom and his Package all followed dizzying career highs with albums full of absolute shit. I didn't pay for any of them, though, so I guess I can't really be all that disappointed. The worst thing I paid for this year was probably the Warriorz 2 mixtape. Damon Dash needs to shut up.

― Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yeah, Beyonce's was no good at all pretty much! I forgot that even existed.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh god, Atom and His Package seconded. That was rubbidge.

SFA - still think it's a lovely album. But MC Mabon is soooo much better at doing what they do now it's almost a bit sad, really. Plus they've made a pretty poor choice for single #2 (Hello Sunshine - should've been Venus & Serena...)

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Ally OTM with Turbonegro. I've gotta say, love him to pieces though I do, the new Andrew WK hasn't really spun my wheels the way his last one did. The Rapture CD is good but nothing more. The Gossip didn't rock me like I hoped.

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and I've just remembered I bought the Shack album. And I listened to it too. Apparently.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

What don't you like about the new Andrew WK, Jeanne? I havent' listened to it too closely but there's a few songs on there that really grabbed my attention on first listen (which is why I haven't listened too closely--I just keep repeating the tracks that I REALLY liked and have ignored the rest)

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha yeah I'd completely forgotten about the Shack record as well. HUGE disappointment there.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm sort of putting off listening to the WK because based on what I've heard I'm going to need to be in exactly the right mood to really enjoy it.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm liking Katatonia "Viva Emptiness" less and less. And also, Enslaved "Below The Light" is a lot less interesting than people have led me to believe.

― Siegbran (eofor), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Andrew WK's new one basically sounds like Meatloaf fucking Third Eye Blind. Somehow I actually consider that a compliment, though I'm not sure why.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)

well letting meatloaf fuck you is a pretty big musical sacrifice, thats what richey edwards should have been doing to prove himself to journalists, not this silly cutting himself rubbish.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Perhaps he found Meatloaf's bitchtits intimidating.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I wanted to like Mars Volta way more than I do, although I feel I still owe it a good listen. I just can't really get with the vocals.

Like I said on the other thread, I listened to Radiohead a couple of days ago after putting it aside for months, and it really worked for me. Much better to just let the album come to me and enjoy what's there, expectations aside.

As for who they're ripping off (and I assume this refers mostly to the electronic stuff), who cares? The important thing is that they're doing it musically on this album, and it always works to the benefit of the tunes.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)

The Mars Volta album disappoints me. Not to say it's not good exactly, but from what I had heard of it I thought it was gonna fuck my world up.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Why did I ever buy Tindersticks' Waiting For The Moon?

― David Merryweather (DavidM), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Re: AWK -- It doesn't immediately thrill me the way I Get Wet continues to do. Ally, which songs are the ones you keep playing over and over? The Wolf seems to purposely focus on boosting human morale whereas on his debut, it wasn't as deliberate-sounding. Oh, I dunno. I should give it more time, though.

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

As much as I enjoy I Get Wet, I can't imagine needing a second AWK album. I mean, how different could it really be?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 18:31 (twenty-two years ago)

ill second the new pornographers and Super Furry Animals
radiohead, but only because they shouldve put proper versions of "true love waits" and "big ideas" in place of "sail to the moon" and "go to sleep", but honestly, with tracks like "i will" "wolf at the door" "myxomatosis" "scatterbrain" and "we suck young blood" how can one not be in love with that album?

― Felcher (Felcher), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Hail To the Thief is the best Radiohead album with Yorke's best vocals, not that he was ever brilliant. He actually uses a non-falsetto register sometimes, actually pronounces his consonants sometimes, actually communicates something other than a wounded-puppy whinge sometimes. I don't really know what everyone's issue is. Maybe his sense of pitch and tone isn't as great but that was surely never his strongest suit anyway? He might hold some notes too long but surely he always did that? "Sail To the Moon" and "Go to Sleep" are definitely the weakest tracks but I think they're still better (esp STTM) than the weaker tracks on their other albums, all of which have some. The album has near-flawless pacing, has more variety than any of the others (it actually gets hard and fast sometimes and pulls it off; actually gets into a groove sometimes and pulls it off; all the electronic experiments seem totally focused towards the emotional content of the songs - e.g. "The Gloaming") and has just been the one I've felt the most desire to play and the most connection with. And it was just so tied up with this summer for me - it was always on in our house and soundtracked a lot. In a way, it's ultimately a 70s-style piece of epic pomp rock, which turns a lot of people off, but it's still my favourite. I do really like Kid A (esp) and Amnesiac too though.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 19:34 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah manitoba, mostly cos i was expecting too much i guess, from all the glowing reviews. in the end i just couldn't get into it. the yo la tengo album was good, but i think my own high expectations again caused me some problems, i liked it though.

i liked that new dirty three record, as far as dirty three albums goi dont like it quite as much as "whatever you love, you are" (which looking back over them seems to be my favorite now) but "She Has No Strings Apollo" is definately the first Dirty three album to remind me that little bit of the Grateful Dead (i mean that in a good way, i really like the Dead, all i mean is its certainly got more of a "groove" thing going on than most d3 albums, id like to find a more fitting word than "groove" but i can't) but anyway, yeah i liked it. not as much as "whatever..." though, as i said. but i can't say i was dissapointed with it, and the live shows i saw by them this year in support of it were great.

I still havent mustered up the will to buy Hail to the Thief yet, i gotta do that sometime soon.

― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)

actually communicates something other than a wounded-puppy whinge sometimes

When exactly does he do that, Sundar? I can point to songs on all their previous albums that do (and Kid A is easily my favorite of their albums with my favorite vocals), but Hail To The Thief is the first one where he says nothing to me that I have any interest in hearing.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree that HTTT is sequenced well. Hell, I agree that a lot about the album is done well, I just don't like it. Especially the singing.

― Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Frankly there isn't a damn song that I enjoy all the way through. At least Amnesiac had "I Might Be Wrong" and the get off my case song.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Sundar is OTM.

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 23:16 (twenty-two years ago)

i wasn't disappointed by the Shack album because it was pretty much what i was expecting from reviews/descriptions i'd read. i think it's rather lovely but i acknowledge it's not as classic as the previous two albums.

i totally disagree about the Rainer Maria album. i must get something very different from them - i think it's a stunner and is leaps and bounds better than the rest of their catalogue

― the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 23:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I expect the Bubba Sparxxx album will have to do a whole lot of growing on me before I take it out of the category of "dissappointment." Also, if reissues can be discussed, I'm surprised that Bad Girls was as... eh?... as it was. The second "bonus disc" blows away the album proper.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 00:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Anthony:

In "Myxomatosis" he actually sounds like he has some attitude to him. When "2+2=5" gets rocking, he even sounds a little giddy, sounds like he's spitting out the words with some defiance, even gets almost Robert Plant-y in a weird way. In the verses to "A Wolf At the Door", he sounds more gritty and bitter and paranoid and just-holding-back rather than just plaintive.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 01:34 (twenty-two years ago)

William Parker: Eloping with the Sun, because I listened to some clips from it and thought I was really going to like it, but it just kind of drones on. I guess it's not bad background music, but I'm not thrilled with it. (I am not a William Parker fan or anything, either--I just got curious, and figured I might like him more in an unconventional setting like this, rather than a jazz setting, though I liked his bass playing fairly well on Multiplication Tables. Forget italics, I'm going to bed man.)

― Al Andalous (Al Andalous), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 01:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, I really wanted to like that Yerba Buena CD, but after listening to it a lot for a few weeks, I basically haven't touched it, and even back then I wasn't entirely taken with it. I might sell it.

― Al Andalous (Al Andalous), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 02:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Siegbran OTM again - though I didn't like Viva Emptiness from the first listen: why go nu-metal when you had a good prog thing going? Can't concur on the Below the Lights downer though, I thought it ruled over Monumension while refusing to just shoot for Eld II

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 02:28 (twenty-two years ago)

For me, the last Durutti Column album "Someone else's party" was a let down. Some of it is very good, and if Vini Reilly issued a record of farting noises put through his Space Echo I'd probably buy it, but some of it is just a bit ... blah. One or two songs sounds like Moby, for Christ's sake! And about a third of the songs have been issued before on his previous 3 albums. So all in all I feel a bit cheated by it. When it's good, it's great, but there's not enough good on it.

I was going to get Mogwai and Radiohead out of the library this week but you lot have persuaded me not to bother now.

― Rob M (Rob M), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 11:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, do bother with Radiohead - the good thing about it is that it doesn't take as much work to get into as Kid A or Amnesiac did, for me at least.

― Damian (Damian), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 11:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, do check out Hail to the Thief. I have this sneaking suspicion that a lot of people are disappointed by them only because they fail to live up to the (quite ridiculously) hyperbolic superlatives that some use to describe their music. I'm not really sure any band could live up to some of the things said about Radiohead.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 12:48 (twenty-two years ago)

The "hidden gem" on _HTTF_ is "A Drunken Punch-up At A Wedding".

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 13:00 (twenty-two years ago)

tricky, massive attack & catpower.

tricky i havent even listned to-
catpower has about a 2 dozen other songs that should of made the album

I didnt really care for the new radiohead until i heard myxomatosis riding in a friends car late at night.

― kephm, Wednesday, 17 September 2003 13:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Metal reviews:
The Katatonia album had good songs but after listening to it twice I was quite bored of it already!
The Enslaved album was amazing however. Definitely the best since Eld and a light year from Monumension.
The Aborym album was a good concept but nothing to come back to - disappointing because Terrorizer gave it huge bigs.
Type O Negative's album had some good songs but went on for about a year and a half with not enough interesting going on.
I did like the Strapping Young Lad album - absolutely terrifying in it's speed and precision, but yet again, not that much else.
I definitely wasn't disappointed with Emperor's best of album. They could have picked some much worse tracks but they seemed to have picked every track I like.

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I listened to The Wolf at a store tonight. Look, I love I Get Wet more than life (and a hell of a lot more than what I've heard by Electric 6 - thank God he leaves out the gag-me-with-a-spoon new wave vocalisms) but at most I might consider this if I find it second-hand. I already own Styx's Classics, you see.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 21:34 (twenty-two years ago)

There are few things I don't love more than life.

― Al Andalous (Al Andalous), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

there's a lot of things Andrew WK leaves out that Electric 6 leaves in: Sonic variety, dynamic range, multisyllabic words, melody, nuance. Good for him!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)

"Oh oh oh and the Mis-Teeq album was disappointing because it has a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MIX of 'Can't Get It Back' which is way inferior to the radio version."

No way! The radio version is crap-to-the-max. The original isn't the best thing on the album but at least it's not the least interesting thing they've ever released to radio.

I don't understand how people were disappointed with Luomo. I really don't.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 18 September 2003 01:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Mogwai. I actually hate "Hunted by a Freak," it sounds like stereotypical Mogwai warmed over x 1000, and it spoils all the other songs.

Massive Attack. Let down the second I heard there was not going to be any Liz.

― Leee (Leee), Thursday, 18 September 2003 03:08 (twenty-two years ago)

i have yet to hear any sonic variety or dynamic range in the electric six.

why are these good things again?

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 September 2003 06:03 (twenty-two years ago)

'Clones' by the Neptunes is the biggest let-down I've heard this year

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Thursday, 18 September 2003 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I also found My Morning Jacket underwhelming.
After seeing Hot Hot Heat live, I suddenly can't stomach listening to Make Up the Breakdown, which is disappointing given I expected the whole of it to be on par with "No Not Now."

A major letdown, though not necessarily a jeer of the album, must have been The Postal Service. I wanted a whole album of "Evan and Chan."

(ducks)

― Steph (Steph), Thursday, 18 September 2003 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

hey gabbo, have you heard the E6's whole album? Any three E6 songs have much more variety between them than any three Andrew WK songs.

And these traits are good if you want your album to sound like something more than 13 attempts at the same song.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 18 September 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

if it's a good song who cares? i don't think the E6 album is classic but it's fun to shout along to.

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 18 September 2003 22:28 (twenty-two years ago)

It's even more fun to shout at.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 September 2003 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)

-Liz Phair, S/T (I know that it's a cliche at this point and that there's an increasing anti-backlash movement [thank you, Robert Christgau], but it still sounds just awful to me.
-Radiohead, Hail to the Thief (It's really good and will probably still make my top ten of the year for such great tracks as Myxomatosis, A Wolf at the Door, and 2+2=5, but it's their weakest record since Pablo Honey and Sail to the Moon and We Suck Young Blood are very regrettable self-parody._
-Lucinda Williams, World Without Tears (Again, I like it a lot, but it's definitely no Car Wheels.)
-Ted Leo (Good album, but after all the hyperbole, I expected more.)

― Josh Timmermann (Josh Timmermann), Thursday, 18 September 2003 23:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Not even they, themselves believe they can. Exactly why they don't bother trying to live up to others' expectations, in the first place.

Not surprised that Electric Six is less CD than it should be: the amount of hype they got this year, it's as if you expected them to whip the industry into shape all be themselves. Hard to do, when a band only has one worthy gimmick.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 18 September 2003 23:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Not even they, themselves believe they can. Exactly why they don't bother trying to live up to others' expectations, in the first place.
Mm, yes, this I know.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 18 September 2003 23:54 (twenty-two years ago)

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