POX Great forgotten american indie albums of the 90s list.

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1. Beekeeper 'Ostrich' (how could something so awesome just dissappear?)
2. Hurl 'A Place Called Today'
3 Run On's 'Start Packing'
4 Idaho's 'Year after Year'
5. Shudder To Think 'Funeral At The Movies'
6.Come's '11:11',
7. Swell '41'
8.Chavez 'Gone Glimmering'
9. Thin White Rope's 'Sack Full Of Silver'.
10. June Of 44 'Engine Takes To Water'

Or maybe these ain't forgotten? S'just I was in a tidying-my-shelves mood and as usual got distracted cos fuck me some of this stuff is good (especially Beekeeper - wh'appen to them? And is the first album as good as 'Ostrich?)

Neil Kulkarni, Thursday, 28 October 2004 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Chavez too.

papa november (papa november), Thursday, 28 October 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Philistines Jr.'s "The Sinking of the S.S. Danehower."

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 28 October 2004 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Ed's Redeeming Qualities - Big Grapefruit Cleanup Job (contains the original "Drivin' on 9", covered by the Breeders)

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 28 October 2004 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Ed's Redeeming Qualities remind me of the mid-'90s Wrens in that they have a small but obsessive group of fans, and I've been ignoring 'em. (Granted, the Wrens were on the Worst Record Label in the World, Grass.)

What "RIYL" type bands would you say they remind you of?

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 28 October 2004 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

some of Beekeeper joined Ida I think?

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Thursday, 28 October 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I really don't know...they're like the Breeders but without the guitars and more twee....I'll have to give em a listen again.

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 28 October 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd like to add Wade's self titled album to the list. gorgeous.

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Thursday, 28 October 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Small 23 True Zero Hook
3Ds Hellzapoppin

Jeremy (Jeremy), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Scratch the 3Ds, I misread the title.

Jeremy (Jeremy), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

It came out in 1989 so I can't add Slovenly's "We Shoot For the Moon" lp to this thread. Darn!

Drew Daniel, Friday, 29 October 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

One of the guys in Ed's Redeeming Qualities writes the "Cheap Eats" food column in the San Francisco Bay Guardian. His brother (named Dominic Leone!!! who wrote the song gear refers to) passed away about 15 years ago.

The Summer Hits - Beaches And Canyons
Cherubs - Heroin Man
Pitchblende Quartet - Gygax!
Further - Sometimes Chimes

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

first half of the '90s...

Couch Flambeau "Ghostride"
Electric Eels "Having a Philosophical Investigation with..."
Ass Ponys "Mr. Superlove"
Fish & Roses "Dear John"
Shrimp Boat "Duende" and "Cavale"
Schramms "Rock, Paper, Scissors, Dynamite"
Pell Mell "Flow"
Velvet Crush "In the Presence of Greatness"
Unrest "Imperial f.f.r.r."
Love Child "Witchcraft"
Frank Allison & the Odd Sox "Hokey Smoke"
Raymond & Peter "Shut Up Little Man"
DQE "But Me, I Fell Down"
Supreme Dicks "The Unexamined Life"
Tarnation "I'll Give You Something to Cry About"
Cardinal s/t

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:28 (twenty-one years ago)

The Miss Alans' "Smack The Horse"

Dark Horse, Friday, 29 October 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Pell Mell, Shut Up Little Man, Love Child all OTM.

I'm not sure that Unrest is as forgotten as many of these others are (wasn't it Spin's album of the year in 1991?).

The Mountain Goats - Sweden
Peach Cobbler - Georgia Peach
Thinking Fellers Union Local 282 - The Funeral Pudding
Seam - Headsparks

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Spin gave Unrest a good review, but I don't remember it placing on their year-end list. I dunno, it's just not a record you tend to read much about, and my wife recently bought it on CD so I've had it in my consciousness of late.

Thumbs up on the TFUL pick!

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

cardinal is mostly richard davies songs so that's not really american.

keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Frank Allison and the Odd Sox!!!! BBT, you so crazy.

Tarnation and DQE OTM!

Pell Mell -- that reminds me, god, I used to love that Geffen record they did. Is that Flow? We used to play it in the store all the time. I bet THAT's one that you can find on Amazon for a penny. wait, let me check... Ha! OK, Flow was SST; Interstate was the major label one and, yes, Amazon has it for $0.95!! A bargain.

Ok I got one for you:

Babylon Dance Band - Four on One. this is really good!! I just listened to it like two weeks ago. Worst selling Matador release ever? did that Toys Went Berserk record ever come out?

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

10. Treepeople - Guilt Regret Embarrassment
9. That Dog - Totally Crushed Out
8. Blackgirls - Procedure
7. Poster Children - New World Record
6. Thinking Fellers Union Local 282 - I Hope It Lands
5. The Drovers - Little High Sky Show
4. 11th Dream Day - El Moodio
3. Bailter Space - The Aim
2. House of Large Sizes - My Ass Kicking Life
1. Poster Children - Jr. Citizen

briania (briania), Friday, 29 October 2004 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Treepeople OTM!!! I saw them that tour and it was an incredible show.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 October 2004 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Probably liked them better than Built to Spill - tough call.

Also, sorry, scratch Bailter Space (not American) and substitute:
3. Walt Mink - Miss Happiness

briania (briania), Friday, 29 October 2004 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Vulgar Boatmen - Please Panic
Vulgar Boatmen - Opposite Sex
Mary Janes - No. 1 Record
Sardina - Presents
Grenadine - Goya
Eggs - Bruiser LP
His Name is Alive - King of Sweet
Eric Matthews - It's Heavy in Here (much better than the Cardinal album)
Fellow Travellers - Just a Visitor (and anything else realeased on Okra.)
The Schramms - Dizzy Spell

frankE (frankE), Friday, 29 October 2004 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Waxing Poetics, Bedtime Story
Thomas Jefferson Slave Apartments, Bait and Switch
The Silos, The Silos
Howlin' Maggie, Honeysuckle Strange
Lynnfield Pioneers, Free Popcorn

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 29 October 2004 07:41 (twenty-one years ago)

so basically, since people apparently can remember these, it's more like a great "out of print" american indie albums of the 90s list..

reo, Friday, 29 October 2004 07:48 (twenty-one years ago)

no-one's said DELEWARE by drop nineteens yet.

piscesboy, Friday, 29 October 2004 07:49 (twenty-one years ago)

World of Pooh's _The Land of Thirst_ is seriously just about my favorite album ever. And, relatedly, that _Not All That Terrifies Harms_ compilation cassette (and of course the abridgement Tim put out).

Tim, Ed's Redeeming Qualities were very much in late-'70s Jonathan Richman mode, except with more bite & somewhat less charisma. They led with goofy lyrics ("Lawn Dart" was the irritating novelty hit), followed through with really strong melodies. The two 7"s (and Tim Alborn's proto-Harriet Records _Harmony In Your Head_ cassette) had a lot of my favorite songs of theirs.

Neil & Electric Sound, Karla Schickele of Beekeeper has indeed been in Ida for the last few years, and also records as K.

I really really miss Unrest. Although I would happily accept Flin Flon as a substitute if they made more records. I might even like Flin Flon more.

Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 29 October 2004 08:04 (twenty-one years ago)

supreme dicks seconded. esp. "the emotional plague"

and the spinanes' "strand"...

jwd, Friday, 29 October 2004 08:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Bailter Space - Robot World
Rachel's - Handwriting
Swell - Too Many Days ...
Chavez - Gone Glimmering
764-hero - Salt Sinks ...
Karate - In Place of Real Hindsight
Drop Nineteens - Delaware (agreed)
Codeine - Barely Real
Rex - C
Rodan - Rusty
Acetone - s/t
Lync - Remembering ...


tk, Friday, 29 October 2004 08:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Since when were Shudder To Think forgotten (especially round these parts)?

I'd like to add Scarce's 'Deadsexy' to the list, though.

Mog, Friday, 29 October 2004 08:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck yeah! Scarce! Chick Graning! Anastacia Screamed were awesome live.
And otm to those who suggested Rex, Eric Matthews, Tarnation and Seam - I don't think I'm gonna be able to stop listening to this stuff until Monday week.

Neil Kulkarni, Friday, 29 October 2004 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Last I heard of Chick, a few years ago, he was touring with Delta Clutch (the rest of AS) as his backing band, and he'd done some ace demos - but he's since disappeared off the radar completely, and his website's gone down. Wonder what he's up to now?

Mog, Friday, 29 October 2004 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)

extra nudge for small23 - true zero hook .. damn that one got heavy rotation, was lucky to se'em on tour with Archers of Loaf when that lp came out .. loved em ..

others :

cold water flat
crown heights
flick - the perfect kellulight
superdrag - various
grand mal
lotion
tripping daisy
wool

mark e (mark e), Friday, 29 October 2004 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

The amount of Nz stuff on this thread is reminding me just why it was so easy to become an indiekid here in the 90s, we were kinda the best at it

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 29 October 2004 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

circle x - celestial
pretty mighty mighty - ugly
polara - s/t
hypnolovewheel - angel food
bügsküll - phantasies & senseitions
cyrus rego - s/t
big swifty - canals of the atlantean plane
amoeba - pivot
salt licks - (1996) trust your body
buddha on the moon - the last autumn day

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Friday, 29 October 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Last I heard, Chick had moved back to Knoxville and was working on stuff there. I hear occasional updates second-hand through an old pal of his named Carl Snow.

I don't know about forgotten, but perhaps still undersung:

Codeine Frigid Stars LP
Freakwater Feels Like the Third Time
Scud Mountain Boys Massachusetts
Come 11:11

Also, though they are perhaps not forgotten either, the Grifters' recordings, pre-Sub Pop.

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Friday, 29 October 2004 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)

DOG-FACED HERMANS!

mattp, Friday, 29 October 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

More Ed's Redeeming Qualities trivia: if you ever get the chance to read any of the writing of band member Dan Leone, it's quite good.

briania (briania), Friday, 29 October 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

The Geraldine Fibbers - Butch
The Dambuilders - Encendedor
A Minor Forest - Inindependence
Red Aunts- #1 Chicken
Crain - Heater

mama brain, Friday, 29 October 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah, the Damnbuilders. They made some nice music and then fell off the edge of the earth, apparently.

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Friday, 29 October 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Come, Don't Ask, Don't Tell

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 29 October 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

More Ed's Redeeming Qualities trivia: if you ever get the chance to read any of the writing of band member Dan Leone, it's quite good.

I mentioned him offhand upthread ("One of the guys in Ed's Redeeming Qualities writes the "Cheap Eats" food column in the San Francisco Bay Guardian.") If you like cheap food in SF, the weekly column's pretty funny (although occasionally too hokey).

The Dambuilders 7" - "Shrine" b/w "Candyguts" OTM

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 October 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I had some but I forgot what they were. (ha)

I am very happy that someone mentioned Walt Mink.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 29 October 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Walt Mink was also a pet band of Ryan Pitchfork's, back when he was a college student in Minnesota. I think there's a 10.0 review of them in the archives from back in 1995.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 October 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Who covered "pink moon" first: Sebadoh or Walt Mink?

I remember a lot of Nick Drake samples in late 80s sebadoh/sentridoh.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 October 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Hazel, Are You Going to Eat That

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 October 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Dart, 36 Cents an hour (all my friends were in this band at some point or another)

Scrawl, Velvet Hammer

Timco, Gentleman Jim

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 29 October 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

that Dart cd is grrrrrrrreat. where is Lauren these days?

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Friday, 29 October 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

she is in san francisco and working as a designer the last I heard. Actually she is one of the only people from Dart I didn't know.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 29 October 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

hehe. was she the only non-American in the 36CaH lineup?

this thread makes me want to run home and listen to nothing but '90s Amer-Indie all weekend.

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Friday, 29 October 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Hell! I think I'm having a Melody Maker relapse into 90's leftfield indie here! :-)

Thumbs and pinkies up for Chavez though!

herbalizer12 (herbalizer12), Friday, 29 October 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

"Also, though they are perhaps not forgotten either, the Grifters' recordings, pre-Sub Pop."

Oh yes. Crappin You Negative and Eureka by The Grifters are both records that I really love. They had a really diverse sound and very good songs.

Engine Kid -- Angel Wings
I got this off the band after seeing them play a full on, go ape set live to ten people in Louisville. Engine Kid generally got slagged off as a Slint or Melvins rip, which is somewhat accurate considering their sound but doensn't give credit that they were pretty good at what they were trying to do. How many punk/indie bands would even attempt to do a roll through Coltrane's "Ole"? Their mashed up sound probably would make much more headway today.


earlnash, Friday, 29 October 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Re Walt Mink: that 10.0 review will apparently haunt Pitchfork forever. I also thought Miss Happiness was some kind of masterpiece, played it to death, and caught them live a couple of times. Big ups to the Twin Cities scene.

briania (briania), Friday, 29 October 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

TFUL282 - Strangers From The Universe
Creedle - When The Wind Blows
Mineral - End Serenading
Six Finger Satellite - The Pigeon Is The Most Popular Bird
Eleventh Dream Day - Lived To Tell
Guitar Wolf - Jet Generation
The Hardship Post - Somebody Spoke (for New Wave and nothing else)
Shorty - Fresh Breath EP
Alice Donut - Revenge Fantasies of The Impotent
Bluetip - Join Us

That is a *really* random list on account of not being in the presence of my rekkids right now

DJ Mencap0))), Friday, 29 October 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

On the prinicple that most American indie from the 1990's has been forgotten...

Sleepyhead - Starduster
Number One Cup - Possum Trot Plan
Lotion - The Full Issac
Six Finger Satellite - The Pigeon is the Most Popular Bird
Pond - The Practice of Joy Before Death
Scarce - Red
Heartworms - Space Escapade
Archers of Loaf - All the Nations Airports
Butterglory - Crumble
Hazel - Toreader of Love
February - Tomorrow is Today
Mazarin - Watch it Happen
Spent - A Seat Beneath the Chairs
Pop Defect - Don't Be Hateful

jel -- (jel), Friday, 29 October 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Sprinkler - Peerless (single)

jel -- (jel), Friday, 29 October 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm glad the Philistine's Jr got mentioned, I listen to them every week.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 29 October 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

One I wish I had got:

Poole - the Late Engagement

(just heard one of their songs on a Spin Art comp)

jel -- (jel), Friday, 29 October 2004 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Got to third the Philistines Jr.

Baked Bean Teeth would be bananas for not nominating that.

Any news on the Philistines? Didn't the Zambonis 'success'alter their radar somewhat.

The only 'twee indie' band that didn't want to make me throw up, those Philistines Jr folk.

hull hole (hull hole), Friday, 29 October 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

new ILM favorite: TFUL282

briania (briania), Friday, 29 October 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Thinking Fellers seconded / thirded / whatever, esp. Mother Of All Saints and The Funeral Pudding EP.
Blackgirls - Procedure seconded too, plus their great second album Happy.
The self titled mini album by The Pants was mostly OK but the first song on it (None Of That I think it was called?) was really really good.

udu wudu (udu wudu), Friday, 29 October 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

* Wandering Lucy - Leap Year (one of the most enigmatic pop-style K releases of all time; where is Lindi Coyne now?)
* Linda Smith - Nothing Else Matters
* Ninetynine - self-titled
* amen to blackgirls, World of Pooh and DQE

mike a, Friday, 29 October 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

(oops, ninetynine is aussie and wandering lucy is canadian - well, that's technically north american!)

mike a, Friday, 29 October 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Very gratifying to see love for the blackgirls -- I think this is the first time I've seen them mentioned on ILM. Used to have a great time at their shows in N.C.

briania (briania), Friday, 29 October 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Not heard anything about the Philistines in ages, since Analog vs Digital came out in 2000 or was it 2001? Peter answered the couple of emails I sent him years ago.

The Tarquin Records website doesn't seem to have been updated in years, but there are some good MP3's by the Philistines, Happiest Guys in the World and the Zamboni's. And the Tarquin Records Christmas record is worth tracking down, especially for the cover of "Do They Know It's Christmas".

http://www.tarquinrecords.com/home.html

jel -- (jel), Friday, 29 October 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

oh it has been updated, Peter recorded and mixed the latest Interpol album.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 29 October 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Mattp: I've said it before, but Dog Faced Hermans were one of the two or three best live bands I've ever seen. (And come to think of it, one of the others was the Honkies, featuring Kathy Hulme, who was in the pre-DFH band Volunteer Slavery!) Marion Coutts (now a sculptor/installation artist) is a genius.

Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 29 October 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Are Archers of Loaf forgotten? Cause all of their stuff should be considered pretty great.

Also, Beatnik Filmstars - Inhospitalable

matt2 (matt2), Friday, 29 October 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Souled American - Around the Horn (plus everything they did in the 80s)

Beatnik Filmstars were British.

frankE (frankE), Friday, 29 October 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Oops sorry, you're right.

matt2 (matt2), Friday, 29 October 2004 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for that Jel.
It would appear that the Philistines are no more then? What with Pete recording the Smash Hits, sorry, I mean NME, wonderkids Interpol?

I'd never heard of the Philistines when I first clocked eyes on the cover of their first (?) vinyl, in Hull, England's only 'indie' shop 'Offbeat' . I just had to buy it. Fuck the content.

'Let it Be' rooftop shot, blatantly ripped, with a smiling skin (Tarquin) daubed all over the craniums of the 'Mats. The added bonus to me was that I thought (wrongly?) they were taking the piss out of Dinosaur, with the Jr. bit added.

It was one of those rare purchase gambles that paid off.

I never heard the Peel Session ( can't even start on what he (Peel ) meant/will mean to me). Maybe it was another bad dream but seem to recall that the Philistines supported the Family Cat in the UK.

Something else i missed


hull hole (hull hole), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

V3-Photograph Burns on Onion

This is one hell of a rock and roll record. My vote for best rock record of the 90s.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Sleepyhead - Starduster
Number One Cup - Possum Trot Plan

I'd like to second Number One Cup, but substitute either Sleepyhead's first or third LP for "Starduster."

Also: Pest 5000, "Interabang"

morris pavilion (samjeff), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

(whoops, they're Canadian, never mind Pest 5K)

morris pavilion (samjeff), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Kissyfur - "Frambuesa"

morris pavilion (samjeff), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Obviously anything by the Archers of Loaf,

Been lucky enough to travel round the USA now and again ( thanks credit cards). Last time I was over, dragged the poor ex girlfriend from Austin to lawrence , Kansas in a one day haul. I wanted to see where the Embarrassment where from. I've since learnt that they were from Wichita?
But that night we visited, is it The Replay Lounge?, to discover that I'd missed Bachman's Crooked Fingers by one night.
I suppose this was evened out by chatting in the lovely Beer Garden to someone who knew the sound man for the Get Up Kids.

Oh yeaH, in austin I met King Coffey and the ex drummer from Shattered Faith who was going to take me out into the wilds to meet Biscuit from Big Boys .

Did I mention that she is my ex?

hull hole (hull hole), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"Corny old indie" = Spin Art's One Last Kiss? Fortune Cookie Prize? Making Losers Happy? original Kill Rock Stars???

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

earth - 2
bardo pond - amanita
lungfish - rainbows from atoms
hoover- lurid traversal of rt. 7
six finger satellite - law of ruins

Ian John50n (orion), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

haha -- whoops, my post was supposed to go on that 'corny old indie' thread. ah well, got my wires crossed with all this indie love.

this thread makes me want to run home and listen to nothing but '90s Amer-Indie all weekend.

-- echoinggrove (echoinggrov...), October 29th, 2004

seriously. I'm gonna have to break out a lot of this stuff this weekend.

I'm glad to see all the Come mentions on this thread, too; they were awesome, great band.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Sone, s/t including "High Frame Audio"

Guayaquil, Friday, 29 October 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Sone, s/t including "High Frame Audio"

HOLY SHIT YES!

frankE (frankE), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I will second Beekeeper - "Ostrich," which is a really weird and pretty little album. And everyone is aware of my deep, deep love for Chavez. But others:
Wicked Farleys - Sentinel and Enterprise (though I really want to put Make It It on here, but it came out in 2000)
Papas Fritas - s/t
Boyracer - In Full Colour
Space Needle - Voyager
Satisfact - both full-lengths

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Is the Papas Fritas the one with 'lame to be' and 'TV movies'? CLASSIC!

hull hole (hull hole), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm gonna have to spelunk & get some of this stuff out this weekend, you bastards:

Shudder To Think - Pony Express Record
Smart Went Crazy - Con Art
Chavez - Ride the Fader
Thin White Rope - The Ruby Sea (or was that 80s?)
Lotion - Nobody's Cool
Circle X - Celestial
Tsunami - A Brilliant Mistake
Loud Family - Interbabe Concern
Small Factory - I Do Not Love You
US Maple - Long Hair in Three Stages
UK BONUS: Marine Research - Sounds From the Gulf Stream

This is in addition to the shout-outs to Run On, the Philistines Jr., the Dog-Faced Hermans, Beekeeper, TFUL282, Unrest, Scrawl, 6FS, and, oh, every other band on this list.

I actually talked to one of the Katis Bros. on the phone once - I sent a goofy gushing e-mail re: the Philistines Jr. (possibly also re: my abortive attempt to be a show-booker), and he e-mailed me back w/ his phone number. So, what the hell, I called him & we chatted for about 10 minutes about stuff & other stuff - when I asked him about the Philistines playing out more often than once every 10 years, he mentioned many mitigating factors, one of which was trying to actually reproduce their studio shenanigans live.

If you find any Tarquin Records releases on eBay, it's probably one of the (the only?) non-Katis Zambonis selling it - this was true two years ago, anyway.

xpsot - WICKED FARLEYS!!!! I always meant to get Make It It, but never did - I'm guessing it's OOP?

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Make It It is awesome, there's like one annoying song but the rest is beautiful and loud and catchy. I love the singer's voice.

Yes, the Papas Fritas s/t is the one with TV Movies and Lame to Be. It's a gorgeously dinky-sounding pop album.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

i think "forgotten" releases would all be locally released on now-defunct labels. hard to justify anything on matador et al. being forgotten. and unrest, forgotten?

so like Zoom's s/t CD on Lotuspool Records from Lawrence Kansas for example. and Kill Creek had some good records. things like that. wicked farleys, too. they have a new band called certainly, sir that's like a kompaktian/indiedance outfit in Boston.

so... locally-released forgotten and/or OOP and/or defunct labels is kinda where this thread should be going methinks...

david day (winslow), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

V3-Photograph Burns on Onion

seltzer OTM, this record was great, totally forgotten. Also ditto to This White Rope's The Ruby Sea which, along with Sackful of Silver were the only TWR records I really liked.

The first Loud Family album (plants and birds and rocks and things) was really good too, though I got increasingly less interested in them with each release.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

David

very embarrassing moment(the morning after) 2/3 years ago when we rolled in from pub and were blasting 'Sci-fi song' to our neighbours, when we clocked the tel. no on the rear of cover.Obviously,they wanted us to call?

I would like to apologiise now to the Katis family and all those who may have been affected by our loving message

hull hole (hull hole), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Certainly, Sir is like a corny Junior Boys - make of that what you will; I like it.

If we're gonna get picky-nicky, then feel free to sub something from my list w/:

Damn Near Red - the record referred to as their "Swedish B-side" compilation (and I believed it @ first!)

Kyle, do not deny the power of "Sodium Laureth Sulfate" & "Don't Respond, She Can Tell"!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I do like those songs. That record was better than the Tape of Only Linda, anyway. the later records really fell off for me though. I guess I was never really that big a fan although god knows I know people who were OBSESSED

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the Philistines Jr. are probably no longer; their drummer Adam runs Bubblecore and is in his own band that's apparently pretty big (Mice Parade). Too bad, but I'm glad I caught them in Chicago with James Kochalka Superstar circa '96 or '97. For those who like their geeky take on things, check out the Russian Futurists, who remind me of a cross between Ph Jr and the Magnetic Fields.

Dittos to the Mazarin, Atavistic-era Eleventh Dream Day and World of Pooh releases. (Did that World of Pooh compilation CD ever see the light of day, btw?)

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I've heard that Bryan May has remixed the latest Ditchcroaker 10"

hull hole (hull hole), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and by "forgotten" I think it makes for a more robust thread to include non-canonical albums that may have achieved national stature at the time, but have since languished in the public consciousness. Limiting discussion to locally released stuff on defunct labels would probably make for a much shorter thread.

x-post Ditch Croaker, LMFAO.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

(That said, I recall Lotus Pool releasing a couple of interesting albums including Bully Pulpit, Zoom and possibly one other band...)

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

THE RAYMOND BRAKE - "PILES OF DIRTY WINTERS"

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Scrape.

Fucking awesome.

Epitome of Rawk

Jean jackets flailing into the heavens

hull hole (hull hole), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

This world Of Pooh talk reminds me of Barbara Manning - One Perfect Green Blanket, or has it been mentioned already?
Souled American seconded, their 90's albums went in a more drone-country direction but are still excellent.

udu wudu (udu wudu), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Scrape...weren't they a cross between Cows & Beer-era Die Kreuzen, Born without a Face, and South of Heaven-era Slayer? Good times, good times.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Born Without A Face!!! holy shit you blew my mind

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

For a 90s ensemble, Modern Vending were a bit ahead of their time? They sounded like they were caught on the North Atlantic drift which made them all the more 'difficult', but beautiful, in the way they said.... 'Just going for it....'

hull hole (hull hole), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Repulse Kava kicked Modern Vending's ass.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

A Ten O'Clock Scholar - Quietest

Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Aww fuck..
Repulse Kava. What was that great, probably 80s hit, 'Daddy's crowbar'?

Maaaan, back in the day...let the good times feed us.

hull hole (hull hole), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

dude I have the whole Butt Rag records discography

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Another confirmed Born Without a Face kill, right here!

briania (briania), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Butt Rag were great man. What a floating roster they had. BR signed FlopHouse?

Respect.

hull hole (hull hole), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno about Flophouse, but he definitely put out singles by Timber, The Biggest Square Thing, and Borbetomagus (2!! in fact)

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Modern Vending, Jot, Datura Seeds...the sounds of Muncie/Naptown live.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, getting back to the original post but THIN WHITE ROPE, were not appreciated like they should have been.Their version of 'Some Velvet Morning' is a belter for starters
Neither were the GRIFTERS properly appreciated.
Any news on the latter? I had heard that they'd reformed?

What happened to Weird Paul;?

hull hole (hull hole), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Datura Seeds.
Were they the guys from indiaaaoappouiaasjsd?
I have their album.
I keep playing it to what become my ex s

hull hole (hull hole), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Hang on. Are the Grifters and TWR 80s? Shouse is 67, right/
Time passes so quickly when yr having so much fun

hull hole (hull hole), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, more...

Prisonshake "I'm Really Fucked Now"
Men & Volts "Cheer Up"
Curlew "Bee"
Trunk "La-Ugh"
Datura Seeds "Who Do You Want It to Be"
Fire in the Kitchen "Theory of Everything"
King Kong "The Old Man and the Bridge"
Nothing Painted Blue "A Baby, a Blanket, a Packet of Seeds"
Tube Bar Deluxe
Shrimp Boat "Volume 1"
Treepeople "Guilt Regret Embarrassment"
Vomit Launch "Dogeared"
Luxurious Bags "Voluntary Lifelong Quarantine"
Grifters "So Happy Together"
God Is My Co-Pilot "I Am Not This Body"
Fly Ashtray "Clumps Takes a Ride"
Sun City Girls "Live from Planet Boomerang"
Styrenes "It's Artastic!"
Karl Hendricks Trio "Buick Electra"

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I liked Helen Shields much more than Jot, they were a great live band. The Helen Shields 7" that they recorded with Kramer is fantastic.

Modern Vending and the Datura Seeds were both cool bands. Vess also had some good songs in the United States 3.

The 90s Indiana bands that fell through the cracks that make me sad are Speed Luxury and the Steve Kowalski Army. I'd love to get a copy of the Speed Luxury demos and the SK 7"s and the orange tape. I keep hoping someone will eventually put some of that kind of stuff together. It bums me out that those two bands never even got to put out a proper CD/LP. They were both so good live.


Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

http://community-2.webtv.net/sabata/THEMUSICOFWEIRDPAUL/scrapbookFiles/mailedD17.jpg

You rang?

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus, Earl, I have that Helen Shields 7"!

And, I was *this* close to releasing a 7" by Steve Kowalski Army..."Can't Find London" woulda been the A side. I backed out when I realized it probably wouldn't have sold.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway, the Grifters: dunno if they're reforming. Whatever happened to Those Bastard Souls? They were getting pretty big there for a while.

That photo above, btw, is "Weird" Paul Petroskey. I still remember putting up him and Manny Theiner when Weird Paul played a show at the Lounge Ax in 1991 or so. As I remember it, he played with plastic Army men on the edge of the stage as part of his set.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the SK did put out "Can't Find London" on a 7's with Jake's "Live Alone and Like It" on the back. I used to have that and the orange tape. If "Can't find London" wasn't a single it was definitely on the orange tape. My band in college played with the SK Army a few times, mind you this was when Brent Olds played bass after Jake left. They were still great.

Speed Luxury (aka Joyride aka Trailside Killers) were bad ass. They were my favorite of the B-ton, Indy, Muncie band brigade of that time period. Their EP they recorded with John Strom was OK, but they held back their best tunes for an album which was promised by a label and never happened.

All of The Grifter's side projects definitely underscore that they were more than the sum of their parts when together. They were great the two times I saw them live.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and Prickly, _Velleity_; great strummed-Stratocaster outer-Boston pop, apparently now quasi-reformed as Shumai. But maybe this was never well-known enough to be considered "forgotten."

Guayaquil, Friday, 29 October 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Suicidal Tendencies had a lot to say. Maybe that was in the 80s tho'?

hull hole (hull hole), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I would say that Loud Family's Days for Days is an overlooked and lost classic. This, probably because of all of the interludes between the actual songs. But what songs! "Way Too Helpful", "Business Men are Okay" and "Deeepression" pop to mind immediately. Great stuff!

frankE (frankE), Friday, 29 October 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Spain - "She Haunts My Dreams"

morbid, lost-love songs. perfect if you're in the right mood.

Thea (Thea), Friday, 29 October 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Daddy in His Deep Sleep

Orbit (Orbit), Saturday, 30 October 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know how "indie" it is, but Failure's Fantastic Planet is still the most underrated record possibly ever.

billstevejim, Saturday, 30 October 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Ditto Spain, i loved "Blue Moods".

Also Drop Acid were fun.

tk, Saturday, 30 October 2004 04:17 (twenty-one years ago)

oh man is this ever a trip down memory lane. i own more than half of the records mentioned. ditch croaker!! there's a track from the chimpfactor ep which i just adore, i think it's called "fell behind" or something like that. awesome awesome awesome. small's "chopsocky" is another track that rocks my socks.

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Saturday, 30 October 2004 08:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Perhaps we should all get in touch with the philistines and beg them to make a new album!

Oh my, American 90's Indie was so great.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 30 October 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

"Bundle of Joy" by Land of the Loops.

ng, Saturday, 30 October 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Both Sammy albums, though I wish the first one sounded better.

dlp9001, Saturday, 30 October 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

five years pass...

Hey does anybody interested in this stuff want to go to a really great shop in northern NJ for really obscure 90s vinyl that has been sitting there since it was released... with me? I'm probably going back this coming Saturday, and I want to keep it a secret and tell everyone at the same time. Luckily, not many people care about this kind of stuff, which is why its been sitting in this store for so long. Yesterday I purchased from here:

Boyracer - Racer 100 EP one sided 12" (label says super limited and I believe it)
Eggs - Exploder 2xLP
Rollerball - Apples/Le Galaxy 7" (really charming 90s indie-pop band, not much info about them out there)

I will always think of you, while (quite) fondly, myself (Evan), Monday, 27 September 2010 04:32 (fifteen years ago)

Is that the Rollerball from Portland? If so, they are still active and better than ever.

Nate Carson, Monday, 27 September 2010 06:47 (fifteen years ago)

Oh probably! Thats good to hear.

I will always think of you, while (quite) fondly, myself (Evan), Monday, 27 September 2010 13:24 (fifteen years ago)

two years pass...

i just remembered the band dis-

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 4 January 2013 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGPkO4dAXxM

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 4 January 2013 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

They had the best song titles.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 January 2013 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

also from the OP: Beekeeper 'Ostrich' (how could something so awesome just dissappear?) <- this is a really good album

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 4 January 2013 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

Not really forgotten, because not many heard them to start with, but Boise, Idaho's Dirt Fishermen put out a record on C/Z that I still like a lot, Vena Cava. Duelling female vocals would certainly appeal to fans of The Breeders or Veruca Salt, with a bit lower-fi production, like maybe Salem 66. Very 4AD-ish song titles: "Caracul," "Ingridory," "Wrath of Rabbit."

Rocking Disco Santa (Dan Peterson), Saturday, 5 January 2013 13:13 (thirteen years ago)


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