This is about Stevie Nicks' solo stuff, NOT Fleetwood Mac stuff. When it's on the radio I think "Stand Back" is thte greatest song ever written, "Edge of Seventeen" is pretty close, and there are at least half a dozen other songs as good if not BETTER than the tracks she recorded with the Mac.
(I should own up to owning the Timespace box set, which I bought at the peak of my Macmania about eight years ago. It's magnificent kitsch. My favorite quote is the one where she says that 'the bathroom" is her favorite room because it's where she wrote her best songs).
What are your other favorites?
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link
"Edge of Seventeen" and "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around" propel her solo career into teh classy.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― blissblogga, Friday, 18 March 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link
no, no, she said the bathroom is where she did her best lines.
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link
Dave Q started a thread about "Stand Back" recently.Oh, one more thing,
Leather and Lace Leather and Lace Leather and Lace Leather and Lace Leather and Lace Leather and Lace Leather and Lace Leather and Lace Leather and Lace Leather and Lace Leather and Lace Leather and Lace Leather and Lace Leather and Lace Leather and Lace Leather and Lace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(yet another example of Don Henley's best work coming after the Eagles)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 18 March 2005 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link
Generally, yes. But I'll take "Talk to Me" or "Stand Back" or "Rooms on Fire' over "That's Alright," "Sisters of the Moon," or "Welcome to the Room, Sara".
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 18 March 2005 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jeff Wright (JeffW1858), Friday, 18 March 2005 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link
(also that comment about her needing LB's arrangements upthread is wrong cuz LB would never have realized "stand back" ought to sound like a prince tune)
― jones (actual), Friday, 18 March 2005 22:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 18 March 2005 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― jones (actual), Friday, 18 March 2005 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link
This song would have greatly benefitted from a Bonnie Tyler and Eddie Money treatment rather than Don Henley mewling "Sometimes I'm a strong man/Sometimes cold and scared/And sometimes I cry." Yeah sometimes I cry too Don, usually when I'm listening to one of your solo tunes.
― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Friday, 18 March 2005 23:17 (nineteen years ago) link
Plus I think it's quite ironic that she was never all that popular in the UK, which is essentially where Fleetwood Mac come from.
― JTS, Friday, 18 March 2005 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sara Sherr, Saturday, 19 March 2005 03:29 (nineteen years ago) link
But *every* Stevie Nicks song involves a delusional girl. Her songs are nothing if not full of uncertainty and self-doubt.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 19 March 2005 03:40 (nineteen years ago) link
We're all allowed to flub lines in the midst of cocaine psychosis.
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 20 March 2005 00:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 20 March 2005 00:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 04:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Brian Turner (btwfmu), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 04:35 (eighteen years ago) link
also, "i can't wait" video had some serious mid-80's sizzle to it.
― ZionTrain (ZionTrain), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 04:40 (eighteen years ago) link
Brian, it's not really fair to tease us like that. Esp. since my first thought was OMG I MUST HAVE THIS.
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 05:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 05:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 07:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 12:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixx le Belge (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link
'Far as poetry goes, all props to Alfred for the thread. We haven't actually mentioned "After The Glitter Fades" by name, but it stands for me among the best of all singer-songwriter SoCaliana*, from "Late For The Sky" through "A Long December."
*A genre defined by the hoovering of rails in an elegiac mode.
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link
Edge of Seventeen is a stone classic. But not as stone classic as "Stone in Love" by Journey which is a double-stone classic for use of the word "stone" in the title.*
*Also, I noticed the other day that the main riff from Stone in Love is totally ripped off by "Drown" by Son Volt, which was by far their best song. Huh.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link
Suspect the collective might throw a lot of "Windfall" and "Tear Stained Eye" at that Son Volt POO, but "Stone In Love" was WITHOUT QUESTION Journey's finest hour. I love it without irony. Deserves its own thread.
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― On the bass, 57 7th, he wrote this (calstars), Thursday, 7 July 2005 01:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 7 July 2005 03:49 (eighteen years ago) link
"Edge of Seventeen" was what Destiny's Child sampled for "Bootylicious," right?
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 7 July 2005 04:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 7 July 2005 04:58 (eighteen years ago) link
Not sure which I like more: "Seventeen" or "Bootylicious."
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 7 July 2005 04:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 7 July 2005 05:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 7 July 2005 05:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 7 July 2005 14:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 8 July 2005 03:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 8 July 2005 03:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 July 2005 04:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 8 July 2005 10:54 (eighteen years ago) link
Hilarious!
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 02:33 (sixteen years ago) link
"Edge of Seventeen" is fucking immense.
― Dom Passantino, Saturday, 12 April 2008 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link
Get ahold of yourself, man, for God's sake.
― Gorge, Sunday, 13 April 2008 07:58 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, you know it, Bitch.
"Stand Back". I saw this video before I could even GET fucking MTV. You know it fucking rules. And look at her fucking hair. Is it not perfect hair??? How many hairdressers were responsible for that?
This one goes out to Alfred Soto - "I Can't Wait":
And by the way, Edge of Seventeen...
― Your Head Is Full of Diamonds & Lice (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 10 November 2008 04:53 (fifteen years ago) link
― jaxon, Monday, 10 November 2008 05:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Hahaha. Why?
― Your Head Is Full of Diamonds & Lice (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 10 November 2008 06:19 (fifteen years ago) link
She's the goddess. Get on the train now. She's the Queen, man. She's even going to outdo Nico as Queen of Goth if I'm not careful here.
Anyway I don't want to talk to people who haven't heard Kate Bush's The Dreaming album just yet. Just sayin'.
― Ozzy Goth Beatles (Bimble), Sunday, 1 February 2009 06:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Leather & Lace, live 1981
How Still My Love, live 1983
― Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 1 March 2009 06:23 (fifteen years ago) link
"This is a song about an old Welsh witch" LOL
― Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 1 March 2009 06:40 (fifteen years ago) link
haven't read any of this, but its obviously not even an issue, stevie has held her own.
― fauxmarc, Sunday, 1 March 2009 08:03 (fifteen years ago) link
I know I have resurrected this thread about a zillion times, but I want to know if anyone knows this song "Gold & Braid" which didn't appear on either of her first two albums for some weird reason. I'm not even positive that she wrote it, but it's become a big fave of mine.
― Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Friday, 17 April 2009 03:09 (fifteen years ago) link
It's on the box set; before then it was only found on that live show VHS to which you linked.
― I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 April 2009 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah! Thanks for responding. I knew it was on the Enchanted thing, that was it. Allmusic says it's indeed her song, but I suppose allmusic could be wrong.
― Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Friday, 17 April 2009 03:23 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean can someone please look at their CD or whatever and confirm that she has the writing credits on this one? Or someone else? Thanks.
― Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Friday, 17 April 2009 03:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Also, I'm determined to keep calm tonight about the music I love, but I just want to say that her song "Outside The Rain", I heard that on my iPod while running through this HUGE graveyard near my house a couple months ago with my friend, and I can't now divorce that feeling from the song itself. I felt like a child, and its a reminder that this gorgeous HUGE graveyard is near my house and I have only to walk a few blocks and I'm in that place again in my mind. There's something incredible about a child running through the greenery of nature, and she summed up that whole feeling for me.
― Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Friday, 17 April 2009 03:32 (fifteen years ago) link
this was on the vintage WS thread but wanted more ppl to see it!
wow so awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HguL2bIri1Q&feature=player_embedded
― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 18 January 2010 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link
man this clip is making my life better
― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link
the crazy thing is that this is like 10X better than the album version....just such a nice little moment, lost to time...thank god for youtube....
getting irl goosebumps.
― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
wow, that really is gorgeous! Her face kinda makes it better too: a lotta joy in singing.
― Euler, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah it's like she's singing like how you sing when you're a little kid, like un-self-conscious and just for the fun
― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Never really been a huge Stevie Nicks fan, but damned if that isn't one of the most charming clips I've ever seen.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
don't blame it on me
― Joint Custody (ian), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link
BLAME IT ON MY WIIIILD HEEEART
― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link
a friend showed me that clip a couple of months ago. it was all we talked about for a couple of days basically
― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Really, really sweet. Love when the pause in the music (about 1:40) makes her eyes go wide, and she elicits a little chuckle from the makeup woman.
― Such A Hilbily (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link
new solo album may 3rd
http://i.imgur.com/LBSZ0.png
― Love, M.D. (electricsound), Monday, 21 March 2011 04:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Her?
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 21 March 2011 05:27 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't believe so
― Love, M.D. (electricsound), Monday, 21 March 2011 05:28 (thirteen years ago) link
I got the demos for the Wild Heart album... the dressing room video of Wild Heart sounds way better than any of the WH demos I downloaded. Does anyone have a decent mp3 of it?
― elan, Monday, 21 March 2011 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link
aka, YSI?
wild heart video is captivating. i didn't realise she looked like that
"i really like it when you sing like *a* child"
― NI, Thursday, 31 March 2011 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link
She looks like Ann Veal from Arrested Development.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 1 April 2011 01:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Rave review.
― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
A lot more generous than the Slant review: http://www.slantmagazine.com/music/review/in-your-dreams/2487
― Captain Hyrax (Phil D.), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
Lots of rong in that review. First, David Stewart is certainly not "one of pop music's most progressive, fearless producers" -- one of the most regressive and reactionary, actually, which sometimes worked in his favor.
Secondly, since when is anyone upset over Nicks' choice of literary role models? This is a woman who wears leather and lace, boots in the summer time, and fucked Joe Walsh.
― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
SFJ reviews the new album.
― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 May 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
it's more a summary of stevie nicks in general
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 9 May 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, May 9, 2011
cf. Headlines That Write Themselves
I actually heard the single on the radio. I liked it. I thought, "wow, this sounds like Stevie Nicks."
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
i am weirdly intrigued by this
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 09:50 (twelve years ago) link
The song based on Twilight is excellent. She has so much empathy for these girls.
― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
Never knew this before:
Stevie Nicks wrote “Edge of Seventeen” after Tom Petty’s wife Jane started telling her how they met. “She was telling me about Tom [Petty], about when she met him, and she has an incredible Southern accent…and she said that she met him at the age of seventeen, but I thought she said “edge”, and she said “no…age” and I said “Jane, forget it, it’s got to be “edge”. The “Edge of Seventeen” is perfect. I’m going to write a song, ok? And I’m going to give you credit.” She didn’t believe me, you know? She couldn’t believe it when it came out on the album.”
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
One Week//One Band almost done with its weeklong celebration of Stevie Nicks. A lovely post answering the question "What are some of your fondest memories of being a teenage Fleetwood Mac fan?"
I think I miss the culture of it, mostly. Which was the culture of a certain time, too — we hung out on Usenet! The wars between the message boards! There was this guy who was like the Frank Kogan of Mac fandom, and he had all these stories about bootlegging concerts from the parking lot behind the stage when he was a kid in Southern California in the ’70s — and I think at one point before the wars he invited me to join the bad board, which was kind of a badge of honor, particularly as a Stevie Nicks fan, particularly as a female Stevie Nicks fan, since we were basically what the bad board was designed to destroy. There was a sexist aspect that I didn’t pick up on as a kid, or I picked up on it but I accepted it, where a bunch of adult males created a hierarchy of what was cool, what was smart, what was better, and at the top was them and the things they liked, and at the bottom was young women, and the things young women wanted to talk about. Stevie was the least cool thing you could like. (So of course I loved her like my life depended on it. I loved her like her life depended on it.)
But there was a culture beyond that, the things handed down from fan to fan. All the little legends — the things someone once said Lindsey once said to Stevie, the story about him slapping her, whether it was true. Whether we could trust Mick Fleetwood. The fight over “Silver Springs.” The fight over “Go Your Own Way.” The fight over “Tusk.” The fight over Tusk. Every concert ending with “Songbird.” Mick’s balls, and John’s tattoo, and who “Sara” and “Caroline” were about. And all the things we traded — the Rosebud documentary, the Tusk documentary, the Almanac demos, and there was a recording of Stevie saying this, and there was a video of Lindsey doing that, and after a while you knew it so well you felt like you were born with it, born knowing the stories and the symbols and the traditions and what was classic and what was rare and what was valuable.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 October 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
For those curious, I believe Mick's balls we/are actually souvenir pull-strings from some old hotel toilets pilfered while on tour in the old days, back when the band also used to adorn the drum set with dildos and fill condoms with scary liquids then spray them at crowds. I'm not making this up.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 October 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
You know how when you hear about some pampered rock star demanding something like reshooting an entire video because they didn't like they way they looked in it? The MTV Oral History book mentions how Stevie Nicks shelved the first version of "Stand Back" for that reason and reshot a more 80s version with the wind in her hair and dancers in the shadows.
Sounds like the old version would be better than any generic second take, right? I think Stevie may have known what she was talking about.
Here, how about she explain to you why this first one was a bad idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC5YWPTCNEQ
"Now we're in the Civil War..."
― pplains, Monday, 29 April 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link
http://www.vulture.com/2013/06/stevie-nicks-on-life-at-65-with-fleetwood-mac.html
― iatee, Monday, 10 June 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link
She's been terrific lately. Check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXg2kZV8-6s
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link
“She’s very amazing about making these major decisions about her life that a lot of people would just stumble along, and suddenly you’re 35 with three screaming kids and going, ‘Hey, how did I end up here?’ ” says Dave Stewart. “It’s this free-spirit thing: Don’t let people push you into a box that you don’t like.” Carlton, 32, remembers Nicks telling her that when Nicks joined Fleetwood Mac, she only saw one path for herself, and it didn’t involve childbearing. “She said, ‘I wanted to be respected by every single dude on that stage, and if I walked out and I’d made that choice, the dynamic would have been different.’ And she’s right,” Carlton says. “And now it’s a little bit different because of women like Stevie. And I think, God, I’m just so grateful to her. She’s a total badass.”
Carlton tells me that last year she asked Nicks to write out her “rules of engagement”—how to get what you want out of life and men. Nicks gave her a stack of hotel stationery with handwritten directives and the overall message that you shouldn’t compromise on having a wonderful, interesting life just because it can be a challenge for some men, but that you should also be aware that that lifestyle can be a burden. Carlton reads one aloud: “ ‘He must have a good job. He must be happy and satisfied with his own life. You are there to enhance his life, not take away from it, and he is there to enhance your life, not fuck it up.’ That’s my favorite one. Thank you, Stevie!”
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link
Re that YouTube clip. Listen to the last four minutes in which she discusses the death of her mother. Damn.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 00:01 (ten years ago) link
I wonder if any child has the courage to ask those questions of their mother.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 04:00 (ten years ago) link
I love you Stevie Nicks
― copter (waterface), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link
I bought Wild Heart and a best of yesterday, I only knew 'Stand Back' and daaaamn I really love pretty much every song on Wild Heart! If Anyone Falls is killing me.
Man her choruses are so fking great, I love her so much
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 April 2014 18:09 (ten years ago) link
"Nightbird"!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQzY97UCXns&feature=kp
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 April 2014 19:41 (ten years ago) link
New leaked track, a rerecording of the oft-bootlegged "The Dealer":
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/stevie-nicks-delivers-emotional-new-track-dealer-20140805
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link
New album of old material is quite not bad.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 12 October 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/O3c84A8.gif
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 October 2015 02:51 (eight years ago) link
YES
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 October 2015 03:16 (eight years ago) link
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/stevie_nicks_will_fuck_you_up
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 May 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link
In those shoes!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 May 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link
http://themuse.jezebel.com/stevie-nicks-recording-edge-of-seventeen-is-some-of-the-1796921774
― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Friday, 14 July 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link
Huge Stevie fan here, but nonetheless I fathom to guess that person who wrote that hyperbolic clickbait article title hasn't watched a lot of studio footage in their lifetime.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 14 July 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link
booo to you
it's pretty fkn mesmerizing imo
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 14 July 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link
That stuff along with the "Chronic" history was my favorite thing about that slick PR piece.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 14 July 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link
Meaning "The Defiant Ones".
Stevie was serious crush material
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 14 July 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link
Wow I had no idea Jimmy Iovine was bald.
Just kidding. That was the first time I've ever seen him without a baseball cap. Next on my list: Edge without his knit cap, Daniel Lanois without his knit cap, Steve Van Zandt without his whatever ...
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 July 2017 21:41 (six years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/LpBt87i.jpg
― pplains, Saturday, 15 July 2017 02:28 (six years ago) link
You look perfectly fine. Lose the dumb hats, Dave.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 15 July 2017 02:51 (six years ago) link
Ha, Edge looks so much better without the hat!
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 15 July 2017 11:55 (six years ago) link
I need you to hate me, I need you todaaaaayyy.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 04:14 (six years ago) link
“And sometimes <sniff> I cry” always made me chuckle a little.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 13:31 (six years ago) link
*sniff* is coke obv
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 13:45 (six years ago) link
Her best Mac and solo stuff.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 December 2018 01:42 (five years ago) link
Either this is an in-joke or that’s the wrong link, Alfred.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 20 December 2018 02:14 (five years ago) link
Ha! It's the wrong link.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 December 2018 02:42 (five years ago) link
For someone who spent the good part of a decade+ of her peak gacked out, she recorded a remarkable number of great songs. But wow, no Silver Springs, which has sort of become the definitive Nicks Mac song. (Storms may be the prettiest.)
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 December 2018 03:25 (five years ago) link
I'll tell you what, I forgot "Nightbird"!
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 December 2018 12:36 (five years ago) link
I feel like “Stand Back” deserves the Lindstrom and Prins treatment.
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 16 February 2019 14:57 (five years ago) link
Rooms on fire slays, the drums are A+
― June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Friday, 15 November 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link
Could be Jerry Marotta ...
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 November 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link
That vaporous Rupert Hine production, also used to splendid effect on Rush's Poppy Bush Interzone hits.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 November 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link
I don't know how many times I've listened to Rooms on Fire today and I don't want to know
― lukas, Sunday, 11 October 2020 04:01 (three years ago) link
She's great in Fleetwood Mac, but I'm not a fan of her solo records. She seems to be at the complete mercy of her collaborators, but seeing as she's choosing most of them, it's probably more of a reflection of poor choices. Iovine's okay but he's generally less interesting than what Nicks had with Buckingham et al. Things get better when Tom Petty and/or the Heartbreakers are involved, or with Prince in "Stand Back"'s case. The one unqualified triumph that belongs to her is "Edge of Seventeen," and as much as I prefer Buckingham's solo career, I don't think he's ever quite matched it on his own.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 11 October 2020 05:58 (three years ago) link
Depends how you define 'collaboration,' for Prince just played on "Stand Back."
"Rooms on Fire" is lovely, and it took years to notice it doesn't rhyme! And how many top twenty hits have lines like "She dreamed of a wanton luxury"?
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 October 2020 09:58 (three years ago) link
When Rooms on Fire hits at the bar the place goes up in flames 🔥
― calstars, Sunday, 11 October 2020 11:52 (three years ago) link
I didn't want to drown the post in details, but generally the point is that the track owed a lot to Prince:
She wrote it on the day of her marriage to Kim Anderson on January 29, 1983. The newlyweds were driving up to San Ysidro Ranch in Santa Barbara when Prince's song "Little Red Corvette" came on the radio. Nicks started humming along to the melody, especially inspired by the lush synthesizers of the song, and "Stand Back" was born. They stopped and got a tape recorder and she recorded the demo in the honeymoon suite that night. Later, when Nicks went into the studio to record the song, she called Prince and told him the story of how she wrote the song to his melody. He came to the studio that night and played synthesizers on it, although his contribution is uncredited on the album. He and Nicks did agree however to split the publishing royalties on the song 50-50. Then, she says, "he just got up and left as if the whole thing happened in a dream."
― birdistheword, Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link
oh I'm well aware of it -- I own Timespace and the story's been passed down for years -- but his influence on the track is overstated, especially when "Nightbird" and (especially!) "If Anyone Falls" boast similar synthesized arrangements. Her awarding him some publishing dough was a gesture of generosity. The track was already awesome.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link
“Blue Lamp” is phenomenal. I can’t believe it was relegated to a b-side/soundtrack cut
― beamish13, Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link
I want to resist this notion of Nicks as "at the complete mercy of her collaborators," which may have been true in 1985-1996 but was certainly not true in Fleetwood Mac (as her demos show) or her solo work from 1989 onward.
Also, most singer-songwriters are at the mercy of collaborators, "complete" or otherwise.
They need bands to flesh out their crystal visions. I suspect a Nicks-at-the-piano album at her peak would've been special, though.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link
"Blue Lamp" is a catchy motherfucker.
stand back would be a great song without the synthsso she “stole” a bit from little red corvetteit’s a stretch to call prince a “collaborator” thereI think she’s a really underrated songwriter and singer and all this surgical picking apart what she “really” did is weird.
― brimstead, Sunday, 11 October 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link
otm
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:32 (three years ago) link
Some great comments on here, just for one example: Hell yeah. Hell yeah to the LA session players. Hell yeah to Don Henley knowing that with Stevie to light his nights, somehow he'd get by. Hell yeah to Alfred Soto correctly observing that when you didn't plan to hear it just then, "Stand Back" is in fact the best song ever written. Along with "Edge Of Seventeen" or "If Anyone Falls." Hell yeah to doing fat rails at some record producer's party up the canyon in Studio City, or maybe it was a real estate guy, and finding yourself alone on a balcony at four in the morning, the has-beens long retired to the bedrooms with the wannabes, and maybe a few stragglers sprawled on living room shag, too wasted or too desperate to know that for them the party ended weeks ago, with the Valley twinkling everywhere below, and knowing that love is only one fine star away. Hell yeah.― rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, July 5, 2005 And the one already in italics, apparently from somewhere else, re the Frank Kogan of Mac collectors, the beneath-the-hierarchy of fans, young women who wanted to talk about young woman things, and what in Stevie songs of and to such want, despite any degree in songs or fans of accepted sexism, and "there was a culture beyond that'---who wrote this, Alfred?
― dow, Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link
meant to refer to "what in Stevie songs *spoke* of and to such want"
― dow, Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link
stand back would be a great song without the synthsso she “stole” a bit from little red corvetteit’s a stretch to call prince a “collaborator” thereI think she’s a really underrated songwriter and singer and all this surgical picking apart what she “really” did is weird.I like the record more than the song - I've never been especially bowled over by any covers or live performances to really think it was the other way around, and I definitely like it more than the remixed version on Timespace, so I can't agree there.
I think we already covered this in the previous posts, but 1) I didn't want to spend too much time discussing details, so "collaborator" shouldn't be taken that literally, "influence" probably would've been better and 2) Alfred already said he thought that influence was overstated, even if it's been stated by Nicks herself, and that's fine if we disagree
Anyway, I'm not sure I'd call her underrated as a songwriter given how massively popular her songs are - her songs with Fleetwood Mac are probably heard and covered more than the others by her bandmates, and they are great songs so they seem rated just fine.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:08 (three years ago) link
I was going to suggest "influence" as a substitute because no question Prince influenced the writing of "Stand Back."
And lol I prefer the remixed "Stand Back" on Timespace -- punchier, longer, with the extended coda of Nicksbabble.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link
I don't like any of the CLA remixes on that compilation, I never kept it for that reason.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link
Sometimes it's a bitch!
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link
LOL
I rarely like remixes like this, unless it was a record that was seriously compromised, remixing at best feels pointless, but it could be a lot worse.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link
wow 18 new answers and none of them are about “Show Them The Way”? It’s good. It didn’t blow me away or anything but it’s staying on my 2020 playlist.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U74L8TbHsoY
― Jeff W, Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link
Never forget
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― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link
the live “stand back” on the chain box is hurried and thin but I kinda like it
― brimstead, Sunday, 11 October 2020 22:02 (three years ago) link
Sorry Jeff -- that's what started my solo Stevie binge, I got distracted by Rooms on Fire.
― lukas, Sunday, 11 October 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link
The new song's okay. Too many JFK references instead of JFK references.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 October 2020 22:05 (three years ago) link
It's not bad. I don't think that was a balanced collection - they really shortchanged the pre-Buckingham/Nicks era - but that track was a good pick to represent the post-Buckingham lineup, which wasn't exactly rich with gems.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 11 October 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link
Blue Lamp is all time
― thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Sunday, 6 December 2020 04:30 (three years ago) link
if you wiser you would get out
― thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Sunday, 6 December 2020 04:31 (three years ago) link
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 14:32 (two years ago) link
You GO, girl
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― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 14:41 (two years ago) link
Happy birthday, fellow sister of the moon
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― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 May 2022 14:10 (one year ago) link
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― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 May 2022 14:11 (one year ago) link
blame it on my wild heart
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 May 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link
^^^ best fucking album ever, as I discovered about a month ago
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 26 May 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link
I remember reading Details Magazine when it was still around and they did a Q&A with Stevie and the writer had the audacity to ask her about a rather explicit rumor (rumour?) that was going around at the time. I will paraphrase:
Interviewer: There's a rumor going around that you did so much coke that your nostrils are wrecked and you have an assistant blow coke into your asshole. (Yes, they came right out and asked her about this).
Nicks: (no response)
Interviewer: It must suck having those kinds of rumors about you.
I remember at the time finding it unreal they even asked, and more surprised she didn't storm out of the inteview.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link
well the magazine was called details
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link
lol I remember it
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link
My Stevie @Barbie has been with me now for several months. When Mattel came to me asking if I would like to have a Barbie made in the “Rumours” cover style I was very overwhelmed. Of course I questioned “would she look like me? Would she have my spirit? Would she have my heart…”… pic.twitter.com/JQXjF7XSMK— Stevie Nicks (@StevieNicks) October 2, 2023
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:18 (six months ago) link
I guess there have been a few of these random Music Series Barbies, including Bowie:
https://www.billboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/David-Bowie-Barbie-hero.jpg?w=942&h=623&crop=1
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:22 (six months ago) link
Mid 70s yellow teeth coked up Bowie would have made a great Joker
― calstars, Monday, 2 October 2023 19:27 (six months ago) link