Songs by gay artists about being gay. (ie not just songs that are a bit camp, or songs aimed at gay men, or songs which are a bit ambiguous but are probably about gay sex, or even songs by gay men ab

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Yes, I know we've had this thread, but I'm not talking about YMCA or Lola or I Will Survive or Dude Looks Like A Lady or anything by Suede, but songs by gay men about being a gay man. Some examples:

Carl Bean - I Was Born This Way
Boy George - Same Thing in Reverse
Marc Almond - What Makes A Man A Man
The Hidden Cameras - The Man That I Am With My Man

― davidsim (davidsim), Friday, 13 May 2005 04:09 (twenty-one years ago)

"I Have the Moon"--Magnetic Fields
"Gimme Gimme Gimme"--Erasure

― elton, Friday, 13 May 2005 04:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Aluminum Group - Sad Gay Life

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 May 2005 04:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Husker Du - Pink Turns to Blue

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Friday, 13 May 2005 04:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Djing a coming out party, are we?

― Reggie, Friday, 13 May 2005 05:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Husker Du - "The Biggest Lie"

― kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Friday, 13 May 2005 05:35 (twenty-one years ago)

"New York City Boy" and "It's a Sin" - Pet Shop Boys

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Friday, 13 May 2005 05:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Husker Du - Pink Turns to Blue

whu?

― zappi (joni), Friday, 13 May 2005 06:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm a Man Who Needs a Man, by the Gay men.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 13 May 2005 06:07 (twenty-one years ago)

"Ted, Woody & Junior" by Robyn Hitchcock & the Egyptians

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 May 2005 06:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom Robinson Band - Glad To Be Gay.

― nickn (nickn), Friday, 13 May 2005 06:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm. Yeah Tom Robinson would have been the second thing to come to mind. First thing I think of is Bronski Beat's "Smalltown Boy".

― The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Friday, 13 May 2005 06:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Why has nobody mentioned Pete Shelley's "Homosapien"? A current obsession of mine.

― sleeve, Friday, 13 May 2005 06:37 (twenty-one years ago)

didn't Evan Dando do a song called 'Big gay heart?'
aldo see the comunards

― lukey (Lukey G), Friday, 13 May 2005 07:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I think a big influence on Tom Robinson militancy about his sexuality was a band w/Mick Ronson connections called Dead Fingers Talk, who had a song called 'Nobody Loves You When You're Old and Gay'. Think they nicked this title off an unreleased Lou Reed song BTW.

― NickB (NickB), Friday, 13 May 2005 07:48 (twenty-one years ago)

The Queen Of Old Compton Street - Fruit
Saturday - David McAlmont
Useless Man - Minty
There's More To Love Than Boy Meets Girl - The Communards

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 13 May 2005 08:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Every Rufus Wainwright song ever.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 13 May 2005 08:42 (twenty-one years ago)

It's Not Easy Being Green - Kermit the Frog
The Rainbow - Ween
Bill & Ted's Homosexual Adventure - Pansy Division

― Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Friday, 13 May 2005 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Suede - Wonderful Sometimes

― Bryan Moore (Bryan Moore), Friday, 13 May 2005 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Suede weren't gay

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 13 May 2005 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck fruit, kitchens of distinction were equally frank: "hammer" and "breathing fear" are the two that spring instantly to mind.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 13 May 2005 10:12 (twenty-one years ago)

You're wrong about Hüsker Dü's "Pink Turns To Blue..." That's about an OD.

― hector savage, Friday, 13 May 2005 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Franz Ferdinandn's "Michael."

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 13 May 2005 10:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Songs by gay artists about being gay.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 13 May 2005 11:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Franz Ferdinand. They're 'mos, I'm telling you.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 13 May 2005 11:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh god, just remembered "Homosexuality" by Modern Rocketry. ("Homo-sexu-ali-tee! YES SAH!")

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 13 May 2005 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

There's also a good case to be made for "Return To Oz" - Scissor Sisters.

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 13 May 2005 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I may be being rather dense, but isn't Husker Du's "The Biggest Lie" about thinking you're better than you are because you've had some success, and coming back to reality with a thump? I can't quite see how this is about being gay (possibly the first two lines of the last verse, ambiguously):

You think you've made it to the top because people know your name,
It's still the same
Your daydreams aren't forever, better get your shit together
For a new game

Back to your day job
Back to your girlfriend
Back to your hometown
The biggest lie

Passing harsher judgement, but you brought it on yourself
By being you
You trade your work for no success, you tried to be a hero
But you end up nothing

― Andrew Norman, Friday, 13 May 2005 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Pet Shop Boys, "Can You Forgive Her?" or "In Denial" or "The Night We Fellin Love." The list goes on.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 13 May 2005 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

men fancying other men VS being gay

I'm from the school that says these are the identical thing. (Sorry, queer theorists.)

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 May 2005 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Every Rufus Wainwright song ever.

I'm not sure that Rufus Wainwright has ever written a song that is actually about being gay. "I Don't Know What It Is" and "Cigarettes & Chocolate Milk" come closest, but they're still fairly allusive.

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 13 May 2005 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

"Gay Messiah"?

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 13 May 2005 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

a couple grizzly bear songs are hardcore gay, talk about cumming on each other and stuff. people don't notice because it's just muttered, but it's there

― breezy, Friday, 13 May 2005 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree, the franz boys are total mo's and not very hot ones to boot, although that michael song is pretty hot

― breezy, Friday, 13 May 2005 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I never thought of "Pink Turns to Blue" as a "turning gay" song. It's an intriguing idea, but it's still about an overdose.

Now. "Green Eyes" is a great song either way you look at it. The line "It's a great big world / with a whole lot of guys / I feel so lucky when I look into those green eyes" can be taken in two completely different beautiful ways.

War Husker Du songs with colors in their titles.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 13 May 2005 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

the reggae track "Tickle Tune" by Sex Boots Dread

Me take it up me arse
and me jam it in me pants
Me like a big man
with a four course romance
and him licking up me backside

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 13 May 2005 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

"I agree, the franz boys are total mo's and not very hot ones to boot, although that michael song is pretty hot"

Breezy, have you seen the drummer? Gay messiah indeed.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 13 May 2005 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

most every other hidden cameras song (esp on the first album) is explicitly about being gay - "smells like happiness" and "ban marriage" being my favorites, i think.

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

In the Guinness Book of Hit Singles my eye caught a song called "Free, Gay and Happy" by "Coming Out Crew"..(shudder)... anyone heard it???

And don't you forget "Gay" by Clifford T Ward ;)

― Janey, Friday, 13 May 2005 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Pet Shop Boys - "Metamorphosis"
Pet Shop Boys - "To Speak is a Sin"

― Seb (Seb), Friday, 13 May 2005 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

The Smiths - "This Charming Man" and "Hand in Glove"

― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Friday, 13 May 2005 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Suede weren't gay

Their drummer certainly was.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 May 2005 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the relative absence of good songs that fit this category is rather telling, particularly when you compare it with the rich resources in literature when it comes to homoerotics (where we've got it pretty much covered via Plato, Sappho, Shakespeare, Marlowe, Proust, Gide, Lorca, Auden, Wilde, Whitman, Ginsberg, Cooper, Rich, etc etc etc). There's something about the context of singing in public to a pop and rock audience that just isn't queer friendly, even as you've got your Elton Johns and your George Michaels and your Morrissey's right out there being as camp as a row of tents, lyrically they still resort to subterfuge, switched pronouns, and "artful evasions" (to take the phrase from a great EMP paper about Morrissey). Just hauling off and singing about loving a guy (let alone sucking a dick) is still either taboo or a "novelty" (the standard line about Pansy Division). It's just vexed. That's why I was so pleased to hear Hidden Cameras and Grizzly Bear . . .

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 13 May 2005 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

limp wrist - i love hardcore boys/i love boys hardcore

― joseph (joseph), Friday, 13 May 2005 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Boy George feat. Avenue D - "Fire Desire"

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 13 May 2005 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Holly Johnson-Legendary children

― Eva van Rein (Gaia1981), Friday, 13 May 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Pansy Division - Smells Like Queer Spirit

To name one

― Atnevon (Atnevon), Friday, 13 May 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

i should take a look at the drummer
maybe I have misjudged le franzes one too many times

re: drew
i hear you
it is nice to hear it in those bands, esp in the casual , non sensational way

i gotta listen to more hidden cameras

― breezy, Friday, 13 May 2005 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

"Left Handed" by Gene

― Steve Gertz (sgertz), Friday, 13 May 2005 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Useless Man - Minty

Approach with caution...

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Friday, 13 May 2005 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

"I Have the Moon"--Magnetic Fields

i thought this was about vampire sex?

― phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 14 May 2005 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

xiu xiu, most of the time.

― John Justen (johnjusten), Saturday, 14 May 2005 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Shockheaded Peters - "I, Bloodbrother Be" (+ there's a really good mashup of this over T. Raumschmiere's "The Game Is Not Over" by Frenchbloke that I'll see if I can find & YSI)

― etc, Saturday, 14 May 2005 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)

By the way, shockheaded peters are unbelievably good. If you YSI, please let me know. Or just be kind and Gmail it...

― John Justen (johnjusten), Saturday, 14 May 2005 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

wow - probably the entire Frogs catalogue. here is an example:

"Is it right to kiss the boys
when youre a girl and not a boy?
i dont think so
because i know so
it aint good

its better to be a man
dip your fingers in the sand
see what you can understand
with a finger up your rump"

- Is it right to kiss the boys

― sunny successor (katharine), Saturday, 14 May 2005 04:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Every other Placebo song. Brian Molko is bi after all.

― Roz, Saturday, 14 May 2005 04:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah I don't understand this notion of Suede not being gay. In the early days Brett Anderson went out of his way to flaunt his bisexuality Melody Maker etc. I got the impression he felt it was a boon to his career at that point!

― The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Saturday, 14 May 2005 07:15 (twenty-one years ago)

hang on, though: wasn't it anderson who came out with that bollock-achingly cringeworthy line about being "a bisexual who's never had a homosexual experience"? i remember, even as a callow youth, thinking he was a total and utter toss for saying that; it seemed such a cynical ooh-look-at-me-i'm-a-bit-gay-and-interesting-no-really line from a tedious straight man. shagging justine from elastica, gamine though she might be, does not make you bisexual, brett, you willy.

and really, i can't think of a single moment in suede's catalogue that is actively about being gay (qv drew's perceptive comments upthread). whereas patrick from the kitchens of distinction - my example of a band that fit that paradigm perfectly - was brutally honest about his sexuality yet (as befits a proto-shoegazer) as emotionally knotted and confused as any pasty straight boy.

why is there not more love for the kitchens? they were absolutely fucking awesome, and i hear their influence everywhere.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 14 May 2005 10:38 (twenty-one years ago)

"i can't think of a single moment in suede's catalogue that is actively about being gay"

HOw 'bout "The Drowners"? 'We kissed in his room/to a popular tune.'

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 14 May 2005 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)

ach, moments, ambiguity, dilettantism. it's hardly about BEING GAY, is it? it's about brett anderson trying to be interesting.

it's not exactly

Hammer it home I want to hammer it in.
Take the lot on and never give in.
You don't know the pain it can cause
You don't know how far we had got

That he wanted to take me home
And he takes me up to his room
And he says no no no no it's good
But it's a last fatal fuck

is it?

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 14 May 2005 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Kitchens of Distinction immensely! "Prize", "4 Men" fit this category but a fair portion of their repertoire dealt with Patrick's relationships with other men or circumstances where men are around (from "On Tooting Broadway Station" to "Mainly Mornings") although gender wasn't always implied in some songs (like "Gorgeous Love", which I'm sure he wrote for a man but it doesn't specifically state a gender in regard to who his gorgeous love is and in essence it can be used as a love song almost universally, particularly if you're being stared at under a draining orange London light).

And "Hammer", what a fucking wonderfully harrowing song. Especially that grinding crescendo of feedback squalls loaded on top of each other in this relentless wave that just build and builds in the outro before finally releasing with a cold metallic explosion, a steel wall that very slowly evanesces to a sort of auditory equivalent of a horizon but echoes on in mind after Love is Hell stops spinning. Sorry if that sounds pretentious, but I wholeheartedly fucking mean every bit of that. Those sonics are teeming with the most overwhelming display of emotion I've heard on a record and they reduce me to this one superficially meaningless but entirely meaningful monosyllabic muttering that encapsulates my awe: gaaaaah...

― That's not cocaine! It's Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 14 May 2005 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)

And the use of an ellipse implies that it extends on beyond eternity.

― That's not cocaine! It's Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 14 May 2005 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry if that sounds pretentious

no: where this band are concerned it's almost understatement! :)

did you ever see them live? i did, once, in glasgow. it was skullfuckingly immense. i was living in edinburgh at the time: i had a choice between getting the last bus home or missing the encore. er, bye bye, bus. i ended up buzzing some friends of friends of friends and staying with them ... they were in the middle of splitting up. it was deeply unpleasant.

but christ, what a band. what a fucking band.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 14 May 2005 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i've been listening to "the golden age" a ton lately, and i don't know if bobby conn is gay, but:

"angels"

richard had a party so many years ago
we were only seventeen
but the scene was a fantasy
we'd stolen from an english queen
we were into swimwear
we danced to cheap cassettes
i was pretty dumb
my gums got so numb from the cocaine
when they were kissin me
...
we dragged him down off the rainbows(?)
so he wouldn't break his head when he fell
down to the hard cold pavement below
it was snowing outside, snowing inside,
no place to hide from the snow
and the razors he used to cut lines in his arms
were making him bleed all over the place
it's kind of a drag
it's kind of a drag
when a small town fag is trying to off himself
when i'm just trying to get it on
when i'm just trying to get it on
for the very first time...

― Matt B. (Matt B.), Saturday, 14 May 2005 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

before I knew Sufjan stevens was a hardcore christian, I used to think he was gay because of how much he talks about "loving him" "His love" blah blah, then I realized he was talking about god. sigh...

― breezy, Saturday, 14 May 2005 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I am still holding out hope for Sufjan. The god stuff could be double entendre? He's dreeeeamy

― Kevin Erickson, Saturday, 14 May 2005 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah holy shit. i just image googled sufjan stevens. so cute!

― phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 14 May 2005 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

creepy cult-y jesus vibe is too weird. 3 of my friends sang back-up vocals for him. They played at Union Pool in the garage w/ some Danielson off-shoot. Some weird preacher figure came and blessed the concert.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 15 May 2005 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

it is creepy and i think he's a bit insane but there are a lot of insane people making good art - i think it might come with the territory. as long as he's not a serial killer i'm ok with it. and he totally does seem gay - something about him. "Oh God" song is pretty much a love song to a man. I can't think of any other songs about God that sound so sad, longing and sexy.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Sunday, 15 May 2005 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

no: where this band are concerned it's almost understatement! :)

did you ever see them live?

1. Thank you, that's good to know.
2. No -- I was much too young and although I vaguely remember "Drive That Fast" from when I was little (I was only four when Strange Free World came out) I didn't know who did that song until a decade later.

― That's not cocaine! It's Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Mantra), Sunday, 15 May 2005 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Grimly, somehow you seem to have misinterpreted my statement about Suede to mean "I'm crazy about Suede and don't think Kitchens are very good". THIS IS NOT THE CASE! If it had been a contest between the two I would have chosen Kitchens, but that's not what this thread is about (or at least it wasn't at the time I made the comment - we all know threads can easily twist and turn).

ach, moments, ambiguity, dilettantism. it's hardly about BEING GAY, is it? it's about brett anderson trying to be interesting.

Well it certainly did seem that way in the press, but I think that may have been because the journalists themselves doted on them and embellished it that way. A bisexual who has never had a homosexual experience is still a bisexual, and it's hard to see why anyone would lie about such a thing, particularly in the public eye. The only plausible reason I can think of in his case was if he was just bending over backwards to give people the impression he was the next Morrissey, which those early Suede singles did appear to allude to. In which case he'd really be the dumbest pop star ever - to lie about his sexuality for that reason. I'm not a huge Suede fan by any means, but I prefer to give Brett the benefit of the doubt on this one.

Incidentally I don't think I ever did see Kitchens live come to think of it and I can't figure out why this is so now. Either they didn't play D.C. or I think what may have happened is they were in the U.S. at the time I was in Britain.

― The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Sunday, 15 May 2005 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, good luck holding out for sufjan. ain't gonna happen. there seems to be a new bumper crop though of cute gay artists coming about...the funny thing about them (which is nice) is that none of them flaunt it, or define themselves by it...such as I mentioned before in a previous post

― breezy, Sunday, 15 May 2005 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

like who, breezy? (not calling you out or anything, i'm genuinely curious who you mean)

― joseph (joseph), Monday, 16 May 2005 02:34 (twenty-one years ago)

That guy from the Scissor Sisters. LOLOL.

Anyway, yeah Sufjan is a cutie. I'd hit it. Twice!

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 16 May 2005 02:48 (twenty-one years ago)

McAlmont & Butler "Sunny Boy" & McAlmont "My Grey Boy"

and probably lots of other McAlmont things also, but most of what I have is v. covert

― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 16 May 2005 08:12 (twenty-one years ago)

A lot of the love songs in Blueboy's back catalogue are written by a gay artist about being gay, but I can't really remember any particular examples at the mo.

― Rob M (Rob M), Monday, 16 May 2005 08:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"Blow Up" by Human Sexual Response?

― mnm, Monday, 16 May 2005 08:58 (twenty-one years ago)

"Freedom 90" by George Michael. somewhat elliptical, but there it is.

I think there's something you should know
I think it's time I told you so
There's something deep inside of me
There's someone else I've got to be
Take back your picture in a frame
Take back your singing in the rain
I just hope you understand
Sometimes the clothes do not make the man

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 16 May 2005 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

joseph: was referring to my and drew's mention of grizzly bear specifically, and not that this is new but I always thought Sigur Ros just sorta HAPPENED to have a gay lead singer. I'm also thinking of a bunch of total unknows I've heard around the city. of course, me being gay hearing a member was gay got me slightly interested, but the music, stage presence and tone they give off has nothing to do with their sexuality. it's just sort of an aside, so it seems. maybe once they get signed they'll put on the scissor sisters show though. haha

― breezy, Monday, 16 May 2005 10:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha! Maybe Sigur Ros would be more compelling if the lead singer WERE more out and loud!

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 16 May 2005 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)

hahaha. dunno about that...Sigur Ros gets FIERCE

― breezy, Monday, 16 May 2005 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

keep this gay thread alive. it's my fave. !!

― breezy, Monday, 16 May 2005 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess we could keep naming Magnetic Fields songs.. "When My Boy Walks Down The Street" is one of my favourites.

Loads from the 80s - anything Jimmy Sommerville ever did. Frankie.. I suppose we'd better chuck Michael Stipe in there, although I still don't think he's written it blatantly in a song.

Erasure "You surround me"
Erasure "Hideaway" - thanks, Andy Bell, you scared the fuck out of me with this song. Liberating, my arse.

I'm sure there are better examples than this though.

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 16 May 2005 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Sylvester must have done something explicitly gay, for example, although the closest I can think of is "Over and Over".

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 16 May 2005 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

The Frogs weren't gay, they were Howard Stern for hipsters.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 May 2005 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

you're all a buncha fucking faggots. theta x is a dyke.

― lucy furr, Monday, 16 May 2005 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Have we really gone that far and NOT mentionned the Village People??? "YMCA", "Go WEST", "In The Navy", "Macho Man", etc...

― Seb (Seb), Monday, 16 May 2005 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Long Shot: "I Started Something I Couldn't Finish" by The Smiths.

"I grabbed him by the gilded beams...
That's what tradition means..."

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Monday, 16 May 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, I'm sure it wasn't intentional, but it's been proven before on this board that misquotations of Smiths lyrics are a real pet peeve of mine. It's "I grabbed YOU by the gilded beams". Thanks.

― The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 09:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoops - fair enough. sorry!

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

only one of the village people was gay

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Bloc Party's lead singer is gay (SHOCKAH!).

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 20 May 2005 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

"only one of the village people was gay"

Is this true? I must say I'm really surprised. Anyway, their songs were written by a gay man and were definitely written from a gay perspective.

― Seb (Seb), Friday, 20 May 2005 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

the lead singer of bloc party is gay? really? they sure kept that one under wraps. or did they not? I can't remember. I had no idea. how about the cute drummer?

― breezy, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Franz Ferdinand's drummer is cuter.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

let's just start a who's the cutest gay boy in the music world thread with pictures haha

― breezy, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

The Magnetic Fields "I Thought I Was Your Boyfriend"

― Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

start posting, breezy.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Elton Motello - Jet boy, Jet Girl (sort of Queer as Folk in vinyl form 20 years previous)

& from the disco netherworld:

Patrick Cowley - Menergy (best back room ode?)

Divine - Native Love, You think you're a man, Shoot your shot (all vaguely on topic - certainly in spirit)

Boystown Gang - cruising the streets (totally absurd and fantastic )

― Guy Beckett (guy), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

alfred, there aren't too many hot openly gay ones. that electroclash dude phiiliip is kinda hot in an electroclash kind of way. hmmmm....i don't know what many of them look like, research time?

― breezy, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.exclaim.ca/images/up-hidden_cameras_01.jpg hmmmmm not so much

― breezy, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.popchild.com/imgsArt/Other/PatrickW01.jpg much better, but still not totally my style. this was one of the better pictures, other ones were too fey. anyone dirtier? haha NOT STEPHEN MERRIT

― breezy, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Is anyone in Dressy Bessy gay?

― Ian Riese-Moraine's exploding hamster zeppelin! (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

alfred: in response to the drummer from franz. i don't know which one that is, but I just took a peep at the band and I'm not feeling any of them....

― breezy, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i kinda fancy del marquis from the scissor sisters. a bit.

― joseph (joseph), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.exibart.com/foto/38372.jpg Patrick Wolf is pretty sexy....

― Guy Beckett (guy), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

bloc party's drummer >>>>>>>>> FF's drummer

― joseph (joseph), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

see there patrick wolf just looks too brittle. I much prefer the shot I put up of him above.

yes joseph, bloc party drummer MUCH better

any others???

― breezy, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

rufus wainwright isn't TOO bad-looking but i can't fucking stand his prissy he-diva pianoboy shtick so that kills any sex appeal he might otherwise have had...

...i can't really think of any others, myself.

― joseph (joseph), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Awright, post Mr Bloc Party then. I gotta see his pic.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.highroadtouring.com/artists/blocparty/gallery/promo/blocred.jpg-hr.jpg

drummer third from left, singer on far left

― joseph (joseph), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

See, he does nothing for me; I see his type at the District every weekend.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

whaddaya mean "his type"? if i saw "his type" everywhere i wouldn't be able to contain myself

(okay, the thrift shop shirt is a bit of a put-off, i'll grant, but i've seen him shirtless at any rate so YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME)

(and no member of FF gets me goin'. at all.)

― joseph (joseph), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

i made a mistake. i mean the guy all the way on the right. i mean, you're right nothing too special. any others you can think of?
i'm now rereading this post to see if any names jump out

― breezy, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm surprised nobody mentioned "boom bye-bye"

― jb, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

this is officially the gay teenybopper corner of ILM

― joseph (joseph), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

isn't alan of the starlight mints gay? (i hope)

― reo, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

z-post. looking at patrick wolf made me think about how i hate loving hating loving these pretty boys. or maybe i love hating.....pretty boys. can we start a thread on that?

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

patrick wolf ain't doing it for me either, but i'm not big on wispy femme boys in general

― joseph (joseph), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

most of them aren't what they're cracked up to be

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

the two guys in alcazar are both gay and apparently a couple, if i remember their bio correctly

― joseph (joseph), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Susan OTM about loving hating loving pretty boys. But this shouldn't be on ILM, should it?

Come to me all you tired, you poor...

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

no, but it had to be said.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

what about Anthony and the Johnsons' "I Fell In Love With A Dead Boy". One of the sweetest love songs I've heard.

― django (django), Thursday, 2 June 2005 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

antony= NOT a good singer and NOT hot, two strikes against him

― breezy, Thursday, 2 June 2005 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry, right..antony.

that's not really fair, his looks are beside the point.

― django (django), Thursday, 2 June 2005 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

we were discussing cute gay musicians for a little bit. i know the thread got off point

― breezy, Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Pet Shop Boys, "Boy Strange"

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Although he's never made a statement saying he is a 'mo, Chris Lowe WAS a dapper lad back in the day, especially while wearing the "BOY" cap.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Patrick Wolf really gay?!?!

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Why not just post photos of "Cute Gay ILM'ers"!!

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

sugar ray dude is at least bi! anyone up for some plastic, plucked so cal surf dude ass? ewww, he looks totally knarl duuude

― breezy, Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

elton john ? there must be some songs where elton has been proud of his sexuality.

and culture club" sexuality"

― dogs of society, Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

eight months pass...

the frogs - homos:

"oh mom,was always wondering why i was into sports
oh mam,was always wondering why i was staying after school.
im into spotrs mom,and also i'm
in the locker room with the boys
i'm in the shower and i drop the soap everytime..
homos,aha,no one love a homo,like us,we love homos/

lesbians are fool,and straight are cool,but the homos are the coolest of the cool"

― funny fun, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 09:10 (twenty years ago)

eight years pass...

As this is kinda the closest thing to a Shockheaded Peters thread here, I guess -- Dom Shaw, a video director from the UK, has been digging up old clips he directed on obsolete formats and putting them on YouTube. He did that with the Cocteau Twins' "Pandora" and lo and behold, here's one he did for "I Bloodbrother Be"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MisfJux-dek

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:51 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exBys7pLZoQ

now word had been gettin' around town
that shorty and i were
a little bit more than just friends
and she really wasn't
feelin' that
so she stopped calling me
but one day i ran into her
she was hanging out with this young boy
that liked to take her out and buy her things
and you know how we confuse love
with buying people things?
well, then she licked her lips
and whispered in my ear
she said, you know i've missed you
i said, cool
but when i asked her
what exactly was it that she missed
she said
uh
can't nobody eat my pussy
the way that you do

can you love me without shame?
you only want me for one thing
but you can teach your boy to do that
can you love me without shame?
need me when you feel pain
but now
you want to fuck around

― Tuomas, Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:23 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FN-4j7hfA0

(This one is pretty self-explanatory.)

― Tuomas, Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:27 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkRVodqIcvs

― Tuomas, Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:29 (eleven years ago)

Extra Fancy - "C'mon Louie" http://youtu.be/Te3fuKTfCig?t=15m5s

Mitch Ryder - "Cherry Poppin'"

Who will be first to feel this burst
Of love and hate for Mommy
So dry your tears and dash your fears
Roll over on your timmy
You are a man, you are a man
Now stop this ship I swear to you again
Roll over bitch and let me stick it in
Nothing's queer, just a loss of fear

― Hideous Lump, Friday, 9 January 2015 03:04 (eleven years ago)

Correction: Now stop this shit I swear to you again

― Hideous Lump, Friday, 9 January 2015 03:08 (eleven years ago)

I think this fits... Sophie B Hawkins - Damn! I wish I was Your Lover

― LimbsKing, Friday, 9 January 2015 03:36 (eleven years ago)

grant macdonald to thread

― don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Friday, 9 January 2015 03:44 (eleven years ago)

Big Momma, Cakes Da Killa (check out the Holy Water mixtape), etc......

― m0stlyClean, Friday, 9 January 2015 19:20 (eleven years ago)

wau at that tHC photo upthread

― fgti, Friday, 9 January 2015 20:53 (eleven years ago)

what would you know about this

― oi, rank account (imago), Friday, 9 January 2015 21:44 (eleven years ago)

two years pass...

How did Mould and Hart's sexuality 'inform' Husker Du's music? A start:

http://dentalhospital.tumblr.com/post/123117605615/bob-and-grant

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 September 2017 15:02 (eight years ago)

nine months pass...

My favorite queer songs.

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 June 2018 13:19 (seven years ago)

alfred, is it the normal mix of smalltown boy or the extended tho?

― stoker (Ross), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:53 (seven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qPnTyrvAv0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VT-Zr-QPDo

― Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 22:53 (seven years ago)

alfred, happy you posted smalltown boy. one of my favourite songs ever. heard it as a child in England, and damn it's stuck with me since

― music saved my life (Ross), Friday, 29 June 2018 20:19 (seven years ago)

it mixes perfectly with grimes crystal ball if you're djing

― music saved my life (Ross), Friday, 29 June 2018 20:19 (seven years ago)

alfred, happy you posted smalltown boy. one of my favourite songs ever. heard it as a child in England, and damn it's stuck with me since

― music saved my life (Ross),

it's gorgeous

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 June 2018 20:31 (seven years ago)

OTM

― music saved my life (Ross), Friday, 29 June 2018 20:33 (seven years ago)

two years pass...

five years on, I’m still in awe of this piece of queer dancepop from South Africa (plus of the fact that it was an actual number one hit there):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjWaET5AWCw
Black Coffee ft. Nakhane • We Dance Again

(they never made a video for it, unfortunately)

full-length version

― No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 11:13 (five years ago)

no mention of John Grant ITT?

― Leighton Buzzword (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 11:38 (five years ago)

... apart from on Alfred's list.

Alfred, I didn't know 'Hymn To Her' was considered a queen song. it's absolutely lovely though

― Leighton Buzzword (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 11:40 (five years ago)

The ambiguity of the pronouns and nouns -- does the song mean "mother" literally? -- is part of the frisson.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 12:00 (five years ago)

yeah looked at it that way, it certainly could. Apparently it was written by a friend of Chrissy's who was into pagan imagery

― Leighton Buzzword (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 12:12 (five years ago)

Nakhane's music is awesome, he's a real gem

― you’re crying, I’m farting (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 16:15 (five years ago)

my god why did people ever think the frogs were remotely funny/cool/good

― ... (Left), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 16:20 (five years ago)

Re: “Hymn to Her,” mother/lover always confused me, so reading the song as queer makes perfect sense to me.

― A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 16:22 (five years ago)

Lavender Country (1973 Gay Country album)

Drops of dawn are trickling on
The corners of our bed
That's full of your flirtin' fingers
Your body odor lingers
In my toes and in my nose and in my head

My belly turns to jelly
Like some nelly ingénue
Your ticklin' beard has got me geared
For a nice long day with you

― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 17:12 (five years ago)

no mention of John Grant ITT?

I'll go with "Glacier".

― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 20:49 (five years ago)

Nakhane's music is awesome, he's a real gem

thanks for picking up on my revive :-)

― No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 21:03 (five years ago)

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