everyone secretly likes coldplay. no joke.

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i'm telling you. no one admits it. but even my most hardened indie snob friends confess to me, in private, that they like coldplay "i bought it for 5 bucks from someone on canal street", "I downloaded it for free", yeah there are some real haters, but honestly most people seem to really like them. probably not here though! .....////waiting for backlash/////

― breezy, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I liked their first album. The second was alright.

― Super Cub (Debito), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not a fan at all, but am intrigued by the love they get from hip-hoppers.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

because i think a thing, it means everyone else does too

a job at the guardians cultural section awaits

― charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i find them to be pretty inoffensive, maybe that's why. that is, more that people don't actively dislike them than that everyone likes them. i'm kinda indifferent to be honest.

― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

"I got a right to be hostile."

I will truly and absolutely affirm my hatred for coldplay here and now. If that chucklehead wasn't the vocalist, I sould probably simply loathe them. Until then, my hatred is unbridled.

― John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 04:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i think their music is manipulative. but I don't mind it. it makes me feel sacharrrine feeligns of nostalgia. fake romance. blah blah. but it's enjoyable. i think his voice is really good. but I can totally understand how people, esp senor indie heads would hate them. far too VH1 for y'alls. but damn it. it's catchy and good.

― breezy, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 04:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Coldplay is proof that each musical era gets the Supertramp it deserves.

That made sense in my head, I swear...

― Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 04:05 (twenty-one years ago)

their first three singles were genuinely great, as is parts of the debut album

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

some people like them not so secretly then

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 04:22 (twenty-one years ago)

it's not a secret! i like them! i wrote them off upon hearing "yellow," which i still don't like, but when i heard "clocks" i was like yowza! then i heard some other songs on rush of blood to the head, and i was like, hey this stuff is all right. and now i like "talk" and "speed of sound" from the new one, and i bet there are other songs i'd like, too! although i got laughed at recently when i said that the unmemorableness of "speed of sound" was a virtue. (you know, because it makes you always want to go back to it, just so you can remember it again.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 04:28 (twenty-one years ago)

actually i think that might be a bit of a trait of lots of coldplay songs, i can think of the name of heaps of them but apart from yellow i'm struggling to bring them to mind. despite the fact that they get massive amounts of radioplay.

― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 04:30 (twenty-one years ago)

and the tune from yellow is SO ripped offa track from sweet and sour

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

when i think of yellow all i can think of is the video with chris martin stumbling on that shitty beach in the rain and with that grimace of pain on his face and it makes me laff. hehe.

― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 04:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i am not secret in liking coldplay. i prefer parachutes, though (even though the 2d one has "clocks").

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 04:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Why does Geir like "Clocks" when it basically has no melody at all?

(I'll stand up for about... four tracks off the first album. But it's hardly an exemplar of its genre.)

― edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 04:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I was at a hard floor dance night and they dropped a bloody techno remix of Clocks that, well, just sounded like Clocks with doof behind it really. What cracked me up was how everyone in the room went spastic dancing to it and singing along like they were at Glasto or somewhere.

I dont much like Coldplay, but in a very indifferent way (Clocks is ok in that pianoey "ooh ooh" bit tho).

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I will truly and absolutely affirm my hatred for coldplay here and now. If that chucklehead wasn't the vocalist, I sould probably simply loathe them. Until then, my hatred is unbridled.

Friend! Let us fight the evil together. With guns.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 04:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I've liked most of their singles besides the lead singles from each record to varying degrees so far (don't think much of the new single, but I assume given the trend that I'll like the next couple). I don't really take them seriously, though.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 04:46 (twenty-one years ago)

yay, i r evil! the next time i see ned, i shall serenade him w/ a few bars of "trouble"!!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 04:52 (twenty-one years ago)

also, may i say for the umpteenth time that i totally do not understand how coldplay stirs such emmanuel goldstein-esque hatred among some folks?!?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

It's more like, "Ah, great. Yes, this is nice. Take everything interesting and wonderful out of Echo and Verve and shoegaze and make it hateful and moronic. HOW I LOVE YOU...dead."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't hear shoegaze in coldplay at all -- echo & verve, yes (more so the former) -- but not shoegaze.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 04:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't like them, neither openly nor secretly, so that's not "everyone," then, is it?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 05:01 (twenty-one years ago)

It's like they have a strain that would have been shoegaze in another life. Like I could have seen these bastards adding the effects pedals and being fourth on the bill under Moose, Revolver and Closedown in 1992.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 05:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I have never knowingly heard Coldplay.

I live in a shoebox hidden under a rock in an underwater cave.

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 05:04 (twenty-one years ago)

our ears must work differently, then -- their sound is too "clean" to ever do shoegaze even passably.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 05:05 (twenty-one years ago)

that said, i suspect that they're just the british dave matthews band at heart. (though i DETEST the dave matthews band w/ an emmanuel goldstein-esque passion all my own.)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)

their sound is too "clean" to ever do shoegaze even passably.

Ahem, like I said:

adding the effects pedals

IE, take songs. Add effects pedals. Gaze. BAD gaze.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 05:07 (twenty-one years ago)

well ok maybe. but they don't add effects pedals, so that seems like a weird thing to criticize them for.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 05:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I liked them when they were called Radiohead.

No wait, I didn't like them then either.

If you're gonna rip off a band, at least rip off their GOOD album. For some reason, Coldplay bites The Bends, not OK Computer. The entire emo nation rips off godawful Pinkerton instead of the listenable blue one. Even The Killers sound more like Seven And The Ragged Tiger to me.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 05:12 (twenty-one years ago)

"The Bends" is much warmer in tone than anything Coldplay have done. "Seven And The Ragged Tiger" is great. You are a mentalist.

― edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 05:13 (twenty-one years ago)

what's wrong w/ the bends, then?!?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 05:14 (twenty-one years ago)

y'all jes some coldplaya hatas!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 05:16 (twenty-one years ago)

"The Bends" = warm, great songs, a bit kicked-in-the-balls in its misery, but you can kind of feel it because it's got some bombast to it.

Coldplay = chillier version of same, actually if music has temperature, what Coldplay do is much more akin to "Ok Computer" just a more organic version of it with less interesting songs. (I say this when I consider that I never want to hear about a third of OKC ever again).

― edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 05:20 (twenty-one years ago)

That one song of theirs that rips off the opening of Ride's Dreams Burn Down is alright. I like them in small dosez but think they're overrated, sure.

― Cunga (Cunga), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 06:09 (twenty-one years ago)

i read that as 'dozes'

― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 06:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Coldplay? I don't think they exist.

― daria g (daria g), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 06:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Right..

"Yellow" made me smile in a way.
I like "In my place" a lot.
The first track off the previous album, the one that's mostly bang bang bang bang, I think is OK.
The rest is a 'whatever'
The new single is an "outrageous" nick off their old stuff...

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 06:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I liked the early version of "Talk" (haven't heard the album version). That's about it.

― daavid (daavid), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 07:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I love their first album. I like about half of their second but except for the Scientist and maybe Clocks, none of those are as good as anything on their debut. Their new single is blah. I dunno, they're just getting progressively worse.

― Roz (Roz), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 07:40 (twenty-one years ago)

i have 'rush of blood to the head' and i listened to it about twice i think. It's really easy music to listen to. Total background music - if you listen too hard they become extremely irritating. Like trying to find edges in an empty circular room.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 07:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Why does Geir like "Clocks" when it basically has no melody at all?

First and foremost, I like Coldplay. That particular song is not a particular favourite, even though I cannot say I have noticed there is considerably less of a tune there than on their other songs.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 08:16 (twenty-one years ago)

also, may i say for the umpteenth time that i totally do not understand how coldplay stirs such emmanuel goldstein-esque hatred among some folks?!?

Some people hate melodies, some people hate ballads. The hatred against Coldplay (and Keane, and Travis) sees them united.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 08:18 (twenty-one years ago)

No they don't hate them, they've just heard better examples elsewhere and/or are more interested in other things related to music as well and would prefer to see them receive a better share of coverage and appreciation instead of these whiny mediocre fucks.

― $V£N! (blueski), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Or are simply pissed off because they'll be number one in two weeks' time instead of Amerie.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 09:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Geir, can you argue the superiority of the Coldplay single over the Amerie one?

(Without saying things that are false and ridiculous, that is)

― edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Inspires neither interest nor hatred in me, but I find some of their stuff surprisingly appropriate for road trips (must be that MOTORIK! thing)

― Baaderonixx (it must be a camel) (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 09:25 (twenty-one years ago)

It's the fact that writers can refer to Jonny Buckland's "superstar guitar fills" - fuckin' come on, the guy makes Ed O'Brien look like Eddie Van Halen! It's the "I screwed you around and I'm sorry so can we please fuck now?" vibe I get from the lyrics, and everything John Justen said upthread. Coldplay are making the world a more boring place.

― Deluxe (Damian), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 09:50 (twenty-one years ago)

they suck, i don't secretly like them. unless i secretly like being bored to tears.

― g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 10:51 (twenty-one years ago)

People who prob'ly don't secretly like Coldplay:

1. Mark E. Smith
2. Mortiis
3. James Brown
4. Merzbow
5. Tom Paulin

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 11:03 (twenty-one years ago)

That should have read 'TV's Mr Tom Paulin' surely. I bet Mortiis likes Coldplay though.

― snotty moore, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 11:21 (twenty-one years ago)

He was prob'ly intrigued by their name and gutted when he heard them.

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 11:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I now like 2 Coldplay songs.

― The Irrelevant Man (Negativa) (Barima), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Breezy, honey, I don't even like Coldplay if I would be sitting on the moon all alone and noone would ever find out that I was listening to Coldplay (ironically or seriously). My hatred is pure and refutes your statement. ;)

― nathalie's baby (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I very much like "High Speed" - was that off an early EP? - and fairly much like "In My Place". I like "Clocks" when he's not singing. I mean, I wouldn't bother going to watch them if they were playing for free at the end of my street, but 2 and a bit good songs is better than some bands ever manage.

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

That one song of theirs that rips off the opening of Ride's Dreams Burn Down is alright.

AHA! I was right!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 11:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeez, read the thread title: everyone *secretly* likes Coldplay!!! So all you professed haters, how can you be believed?

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I suggest you listen to all the songs that do currently make up the British and American Top 40 lists (singles, that is). Do most of them sound anything like Coldplay? Is the kind of genre that Coldplay represents dominant in the Top 40 in any kind of way when compared to other genres (for instance, hip-hop or R&B)?

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)

3. James Brown

No idea, but Timbaland rather openly does ;)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 12:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I liked "Speed of Sound" better when it was "Clocks". Also, take a junior-high science class, Chris.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)

And "YELLOW"???? You people are bonkers. "In My Place", however ... like that moment where Chris Martin like runs up to the mic in the video and he's like "baby please baby please" (LIKE JAMES BROWN!!!!) (cough), oh yeah.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)

But aren't americans supposed to like one token british guitar band every couple of years? re: Wonderwall/Don't Look Back In Anger.

― Viz (Viz), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

B-b-b-b-b-but THE KILLERS?

(AND YES I KNOW THEY'RE AMERICAN YOU BRILLIANT PEOPLE HIT BACKSPACE)

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

coldplay just doesn't do anything for me.

and believe me, i've asked! chris martin never once came over to help me paint my house (even after he promised), or let me borrow a cup of margarine. fucker.

― latebloomer: B Minus Time Traveler (latebloomer), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

they are bland, with few exceptions (a few songs on the debut, that EP before the debut)...however, the hatred towards them by Brits is interesting because they are much less offensive than a lot of the american mainstream (simple plan, good charlotte, kelly osbourne, most mainstream hip-hop) in that they are sincerely trying to write good tunes (though failing because of their bland personalities) rather than creating a commerical spot of a song...the Supertramp comparison is apt

― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I secretly loathe Coldplay. I would never tell the people around me that though.

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Psst!! I'm secretly indifferent to coldplay. Psst!.

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

DAMN YOU YOU EGREGIOUS ESTONIAN YOU MUST PICK SIDES.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

the hatred towards them by Brits is interesting because they are much less offensive than a lot of the american mainstream [...] in that they are sincerely trying to write good tunes [...] rather than creating a commerical spot of a song

But from where I'm sitting (i.e. Britain) Coldplay looks like the most cynical and commercial type of music it's possible to make! I mean seriously, Coldplay and their clones are everywhere: from the broadsheets to the tabloids, from the indie schoolkids to their parents' dinner parties; sodding Aqualung (derivative post-Coldplay drivel) got their break after writing something for an advert that sounded like Coldplay. I think the extent of the hatred inspired by Coldplay (and its virulence) is definitely a consequence of their prominence.

A future history will explain the link between the mid-late Blairite years, its unprecedented wealth for most of the population masking widening inequality and centralisation of power in the hands of the London media classes, and the indefinable feeling of malaise and having missed out on something to which Coldplay seem to appeal. Oh hang on.

― alext (alext), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I suggest you listen to all the songs that do currently make up the British and American Top 40 lists (singles, that is). Do most of them sound anything like Coldplay? Is the kind of genre that Coldplay represents dominant in the Top 40 in any kind of way when compared to other genres (for instance, hip-hop or R&B)?

Forget the charts, they mean very little. Nor do awards shows really BUT when a group who AREN'T just Caucasian suburban dudes trotting out insipid trad-rock/MOR ditties wins Best Band or Best Album at mainstream music awards then I'll withdraw the complaint perhaps.

― $V£N! (blueski), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Coldplay and I own their last one. "In My Place" was on a few minutes ago at the cafe where I'm sitting, and I wanted more!

― Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

D'you think Gwynedd secretly hates them?

― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Some people hate melodies, some people hate ballads. The hatred against Coldplay (and Keane, and Travis) sees them united.

-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), May 18th, 2005.

I'm willing to agree with you, if you add the camps of people who hate poor singing, bland songwriting, and gimmicky usage of piano in a mope-rock context.

I'm all for melody and ballads, but desperate Coldplay times call for desperate Coldplay measures, and makes for strange bedfellows.

― John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

(JOHN TREAD CAREFULLY)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

May I echo Dan's warning.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

May I whisper Ned's echo?

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

everyone secretly likes kula shaker. no joke.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuggit - I'm putting my tattva on the glass.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

everyone secretly likes jokes.

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's what I don't get. Why does the wrath of the ILM gods come down hard on Coldplay but give the Killers (more bland and derivative, IMO) a free pass? Is it because they don't use a piano in most of their songs?

― kickitcricket (kickitcricket), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I don't think anyone takes the Killers as any sort of sustained threat...whereas Coldplay seems committed to continue their aggressive attack on my delicate musical sensibilities album after mediocre album.

― John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I saw one half of a Coldplay video once. I remember nothing about the song. Does that mean I secretly like them?

― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

coldplay albums are 45 minute orgasms. i ain't even gonna front no more...

― tez, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Since when do The Killers get a free pass on ILM?

― $V£N! (blueski), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

There is no possible way that The Killers could be considered to be blander than Coldplay given that the genre Coldplay is pastiching/recycling is blander than the genre The Killers are pastiching/recycling. I could see a coherent argument that says The Killers are more derivative than Coldplay, but even that has no practical bearing on how enjoyable it is to listen to either band.

Also, I like the new Coldplay single. Completely to my surprise.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost - I was about to say. However, they have not been around long enough to late the hate build like a festering canker.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

The Killers? Free pass? They're fucking shit as well. Coldplay actually more good songs, ie one, but apart from that they all need to die.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

COLDPLAYA HATAS!!!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

This is probably Exhibit A in the case against me being allowed to post on this board, but I have never in my life heard a song by Coldplay.

― jotai, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Stop rubbing it in!

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

everyone secretly likes Craig Kilborn. no joke.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I secretly enjoy "Clocks" and the Royksopp remix.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost:
Especially Craig Kilborn.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

This is probably Exhibit A in the case against me being allowed to post on this board, but I have never in my life heard a song by Coldplay.

-- jotai (ugly_and_mea...), May 18th, 2005.

Perhaps you heard Coldplay, but dismissed it as a bleating sheep being beaten to death with a out-of-tune guitar in a distant piano bar and failed to realize it was a "song" per se.

Just a thought.

― John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Coldplay gets you laid ...

Other than that, I'm big on "In My Place." Just a mejestic, perfect ballad that creeps up on you. I thought it hopelessly wussy at fiurst, but boy did it grow on me.

― Chris O., Wednesday, 18 May 2005 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Ugh, I really really REALLY hate that song. If there is a single song that makes me want to hurt them, it's that one. Disgustingly drab, lazy bullshit and Martin's vocal cords should be ripped out. Sorry, am I not being clear here?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

ned, yer channelling alex in nyc!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned's hating my jam! Step off, Ragtop!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

http://money.cnn.com/2005/05/18/news/newsmakers/coldplay.reut/index.htm

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Martin said the album was delayed because the band's first eight months of recording sessions produced songs that lacked the "spark" of such earlier hits as "Yellow," "Clocks" and "The Scientist."

Get me a stump-grinder.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i could like coldplay if they didn't make me think of heterosexual sex and love, then babies and marriage ... and then pleasant post marriage ennui. i resist the soundtrack to my life

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i like them

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

great band.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

COLDPLAY DO NOT HAVE MELODIES, GEIR.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

but they're music is too perfect in mood. and even if it was ok, which it is I'll admit, their look is too perfect; it bothers me that chris martin wears turtlenecks, which accentuates the fact that he looks like a Q-tip. and i know he does it on purpose. just like that arm-folding action. i don't care if i'm the most superficial person on ILM. there has GOT to be a reason to hate them and I pick that one.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Just because I like some of their songs doesn't mean I like the band.

― don weiner, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Coldplay most certainly have melodies. Nice melodies that you can hum along to. Just as they should. The reason why I like them slightly less than Travis and Keane is that Travis and Keane have even more obvious melodies though. (Plus they sound less like U2)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Parachutes is chock full of great melodies. The guitar in "Everything's Not Lost." The bass in "Sparks". The piano in "Trouble". The guitar in "Don't Panic."

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"I like _____ better when it was called ______."

― billstevejim (billstevejim), Thursday, 19 May 2005 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

its begun

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 19 May 2005 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

like many music geeks, my teenage pop star idols were the bands that my older, cooler friends were into. i was drawn to Britpop partly because i grew up on a steady diet of Beatles, Stones and Who, but also partly because a lot of the older crowd i hung out with (and especially a v.v. cute but sadly Damon Albarn-obsessed girl) were rabid fans of Blur, Oasis, and to a lesser extent, Radiohead's first three albums.

our tastes are not frozen in time - i can enjoy all sorts of things unrelated to what i liked in the 90s, and i usually don't care if a band are theoretically derivative. but coldplay are the most prominent and popular example of a band who are clearly derivative of a band (Radiohead) that i still remember as a remnant of a particular time and place. if it were any other band/sound they were ripping off, i wouldn't be so bothered (early U2 doesn't bug me at all, no matter how derivative it might be of post-punk - I can hear it, but it seems more like an objection in theory rather than genuine distaste). it's a very personal and in some ways indefensible objection, but i suspect that for most people my age, that is still the reason we dislike Coldplay with a passion that seems to run counter to their apparent potential to offend (or lack thereof).

― Dave M. (rotten03), Thursday, 19 May 2005 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

If this is genuine, than this is great and it probably is:

http://www.drownedinsound.com/articles/12228.html

Following the widely reported fact that EMI blamed a profits and share slump recently on Coldplay failing to deliver a new LP on time, lead singer Chris ‘mental’ Martin (pictured, first left) has responded by saying "Shareholders are the great evil of this modern world."

Martin was speaking before a 90-minute New York concert and dismissed pressure to boost his record company's profits, saying: "I don't really care about EMI. I'm not really concerned about that."

He mused: "the slavery that we are all under to shareholders" ahead of the album's release in early June.

In his now-traditional bout of pre-LP paranoia, Chris waxed lyrically, saying: "It's very strange for us that we spent 18 months in the studio just trying to make songs that make us feel a certain way and then suddenly become part of this corporate machine."

More of that fighting talk please, Martin…

― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 19 May 2005 09:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, going over this thread I see the CNN thing says the same thing but in case you missed it...

Coldplay are good, they help with girls. :-)

― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 19 May 2005 09:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Buahaha headline.

it bothers me that chris martin wears turtlenecks, which accentuates the fact that he looks like a Q-tip. and i know he does it on purpose. just like that arm-folding action.

Susan, you speak my mind.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 19 May 2005 10:01 (twenty-one years ago)

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/sony_pictures_classics/she_hate_me/q_tip/shehatepre2.jpg

Chris Martin?

― elwisty (elwisty), Thursday, 19 May 2005 10:11 (twenty-one years ago)

My thoughts are the exact opposite of Dave. If I loved something in my youth, I still love it, and I want new music in the same style. Thus is somebody is "ripping off" a style or genre that I used to love, then I will always love it, and I will find it a fresh change from more typical recent styles, which usually leave me cold.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 19 May 2005 10:16 (twenty-one years ago)

There is no bigger giveaway to a secret crush on a band than saying "Oh no I HATE them, but I really like a couple of their songs." So many of you do that. That's what I used to say in 6th grade when people accused me of liking Color Me Badd. I realize that last sentence may discredit me. But you get my point.

― Wookie Rookie (Wookie Rookie), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Chris Martin is the biggest asshole I've ever interviewed. He even surpasses Ryan Adams, which is saying a lot.

― don weiner, Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

everyone secretly likes Craig Kilborn. no joke.

Haha Craig Kilborn has been in my parents' house! My mother gave him lemonade.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Lex, happy to speak for your mind anytime.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not even going to front. I own Parachutes and enjoy it. And I kind of like the new single. Sure, they're dull background adult alt-rock, but at least they're good at it.

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

They are kind of fascinating in their undeniability -- kind of the ultimate "my girlfriend likes them" band. To some (many, actually), they represent absolute perfection -- melodic, dreamy, comforting. To others (considerably less), they are everything that pop shouldn't be -- solipsistic, comfortable, the aural equivalent of Starbucks.

One thing in common: no one's saying they don't craft effective pop songs with melodies that stick, arrangements that soothe -- qualities that utterly seduce one group and absolutely confirm the worst about them to the other.

The funny part? I have no idea which group I'm in.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I like them--it's partly the production that brings it out of the slop-pile; I'm a sucker for crisp production in pop. Some of the songs are neo-Dan Hill for the indie-weeping set, but I can live with that--there are enough good tracks in there to balance it.

― Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Of what I've heard I like "Yellow" and "The Scientist." What I heard from the live album is death.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

to be fair to ned, "in my place" is one of my least favorite coldplay songs. it IS kinda lazy, musically and lyrically (though it has a nice guitar melody). but at worst, it's something i'd just turn off or skip past on the CD as opposed to actively HATING on it.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I like "Yellow" (which, when i first heard it, i thought was the first dave matthews song i actually liked, until i discovered it wasn't dave matthews) and "Clocks." Didn't care much for the others...except "Talk" was pretty neat.

― deej., Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)

ten months pass...

It's true

― Dave M, Saturday, 22 April 2006 09:09 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

Coldplay are just the most recent example of the Black Sabbath/Gary Numan/Slowdive phenomenon wherein the artists most vilified by the contemporary hipsters turn out to be the ones with the greatest long-term musical merit.

― PhilK, Monday, 30 July 2007 11:12 (eighteen years ago)

meh

― braveclub, Monday, 30 July 2007 11:14 (eighteen years ago)

Hmmm.

― Scik Mouthy, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:01 (eighteen years ago)

Black Sabbath/Gary Numan/Slowdive

most vilified by the contemporary hipsters

i mean REALLY?

― blueski, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:03 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, i don't actively listen to Coldplay (though they sound fine enough when I hear them down the pub).

I'm just aware of the weird Karmic rule:

Inexplicably vindictive hipster hate now = fanatical hipster love in the future.

― PhilK, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:05 (eighteen years ago)

blueski - the hatred towards The Human used to be unbelievable. Not far from character assassination level. I'd say much worse than towards Coldplay now.

― PhilK, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:06 (eighteen years ago)

what were 'hipsters' listening to in 1980?

― blueski, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:10 (eighteen years ago)

Cassettes.

― PhilK, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:13 (eighteen years ago)

post-punk, plus ca change.

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

but lol@ premise of slowdive having "long-term musical merit".

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:23 (eighteen years ago)

long commercially viable career != musical merit

― StanM, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:24 (eighteen years ago)

Shakin' Stevens

― I know, right?, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:29 (eighteen years ago)

Cliff Richard

― I know, right?, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

Dave Matthews Band

― I know, right?, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

Embrace are gonna come out of this decade smelling of roses.

― Scik Mouthy, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

cuz they're a victimless crime?

― da croupier, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

Is that what they're doing now?

― Mark G, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

oh wait, they're big in England. Never mind.

x-post

― da croupier, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

THEY SUCK. thanks

― Surmounter, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

Coldplay is proof that each musical era gets the Supertramp it deserves.

Coldplay and Supertramp have nothing in common except Supertramp, like Coldplay now, were absolutely brilliant in their heyday, producing some of the best albums ever made.

― Geir Hongro, Monday, 30 July 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

Coldplay < Supertramp < A cold tramp

― blueski, Monday, 30 July 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

o_O

― Surmounter, Monday, 30 July 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

I went into Paddy Power yesterday and put 50 quid on everyone liking Coldplay by 2017.

I also put a 20 quid side bet on everyone liking Embrace by 2027.

I'll be fucking quids in. You'll see.

― PhilK, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 08:32 (eighteen years ago)

I have to admit I still really like the break in "Clocks" with the piano riff and "ooh ooh" vocal line. Apart from that they're terribly dreary though. God, "Yellow" is so dull!

― Trayce, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 09:25 (eighteen years ago)

I just recently "Castles" compilation. Most of the stuff on there is better than their last studio album.

― Christyles, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 12:05 (eighteen years ago)

Especially that song about the "bigger faster car". The lyrics are totally lost on me but i like how petulant Chris Martin sounds on it.

― Christyles, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 12:08 (eighteen years ago)

Ah, "Bigger, Stronger". I like the first two albums a fair bit, the singles off X&Y didn't impress too much however.

― Chris in Belfast, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 12:21 (eighteen years ago)

Probably how he seduced Gwyneth. I hardly think this type of bland Ikea-like concocted snooze muzak will even be remembered in ten years time. I should hope not. Well, would actually be great. I can actually snigger at the hipsters then.

― stevienixed, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 12:30 (eighteen years ago)

it will be remembered in ten years simply because coldplay have a lifeline to keep producing boring records that people will hear whether they like it or not.

― Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 13:37 (eighteen years ago)

W/r/t the comment about hip-hoppers liking Coldplay, interesting that (some of them) also seem to like Supertramp, which keeps surprising me every time I hear that song.

Since I've never heard Coldplay, have no comment on the rest of this thread.

― dlp9001, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

eww Yellow

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

rly that voice makes me gag

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

I like early Coldplay, but the newer stuff is complete drivel. Also, being friends with Jay-Z only makes you that more douchey.

― humansuit, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

The Eagles are still played today, and Coldplay (being the Eagles of today, which to me is a positive thing) will still be played in 30 years.

― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

drivel otm, xcept i think that's even too much credit. i mean i've been known to like drivel.

oh geez i don't know if i can bear that, 30 yrs.

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

they need to sound more like Maroon 5

― blueski, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

Surmounter, really, I'd rather eat canned peas and 'creamed' corn endlessly for 30 years than listen to Coldplay.

― humansuit, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

they need to sound more like Maroon 5

Long as they write better tunes than Maroon 5 are able to do, it might be interesting to hear a one-off disco-influenced Coldplay-track like that latest Maroon 5 hit. It has to be more tuneful though.

― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 22:31 (eighteen years ago)

Coldplay is ghastly, are you kidding?

― pacifikix, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 22:39 (eighteen years ago)

Ahhh Coldplay...

They put on a spine tingling live show, seriously. I thought I was going to explode when Clocks climaxed... what a night. The first four tracks on X & Y vaguely represent an idea of my hypothetical greatest album ever. Bring on the fourth album, I say!

― butchy, Thursday, 2 August 2007 00:35 (eighteen years ago)

"everyone secretly likes coldplay. no joke.
Who? David Gray? Hum something.

― Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt, Thursday, 2 August 2007 02:58 (eighteen years ago)

The first four tracks on X & Y vaguely represent an idea of my hypothetical greatest album ever. Bring on the fourth album, I say!

so OTM

― Wrinklepaws, Thursday, 2 August 2007 03:54 (eighteen years ago)

Yipes.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 August 2007 03:55 (eighteen years ago)

Der name allein ist programm. "Coldplay"! How offputting. Everyone secretly likes Coldplay: jokes, bruv.

― blunt, Thursday, 2 August 2007 04:57 (eighteen years ago)

I still maintain that Coldplay sounds like a homeless man's House of Love at times. Quasi-retarded lyrics with that slow, languid sound. No comparison quality wise, though. Though there's that one Coldplay song that ends in a coda like "Love In A Car."

― Cunga, Thursday, 2 August 2007 05:01 (eighteen years ago)

The Eagles are still played today, and Coldplay (being the Eagles of today, which to me is a positive thing) will still be played in 30 years.

This makes sense to me. I guess both also attracted an outsized amount of vilification in their day (and still do). Neither is as bad as their detractors insist, but I'd also maintain that neither is as great as their most fervent fans insist, either. Both strike me as competent, consistent bands that have a nice way with melodies, but are lacking a bit in ambition (not in the commercial sense).

― o. nate, Thursday, 2 August 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

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