Glass Candy - "Iko Iko"

Yeah, anyway, I really like this song. The last thing I heard from them was that Love Love Love thing which I thought was a little weak. But this 12" has definitely commanded my attention

Does Ida No take her clothes off at shows?

Iko Iko by Glass Candy

http://www.myspace.com/danava
http://www.piecemeal.net/artists/danava/

Danava were pretty crazy, the singer had weird hair and make-up and constume and processed vocals, there were arpeggiating synths, falsetto screaming etc, but it was incredibly crowded and hot so I was standing in front of a fan in the back. But it was fun.

whoa.

Their 'Yes Music' CD (apparently a CDR sold on tour) is the most awesome thing I've heard in years.

slsk come through pls

'life after sundown' is really fantastic and that new-ish one 'i always say yes' is pretty good too, sorta skewed italo. (still waiting for my copy to show up in the mail, though.) apparently tim sweeney might be remixing the new one at some point?

What's the deal though, is an album coming out at some point? Judging by the CDR this is gonna be amazing. New track on the 'After Dark' compilation is also pretty damn amazing ("Rolling down the hills")

i think they're slightly less than the sum of their parts

the "computer love" version was incredible, the rest of the stuff just a notch below but the live stuff seems like its not quite there yet

i don't mean to sound so harsh, i guess i just feel like if they stepped it up a *little* bit they would be the most awesome thing i've heard in years

Not that they're really very different, but I always prefer the Chromatics since their Italo conversion.

They also do the best Scream-era Siouxsie impersonation.

yeah, i suppose the new stuff is just so unbelievably PROMISING that when they do put out another official record it'll be totally over the edge.

the ultra softness of their sound is just really refreshing to me, especially since so many "rock bands gone dance" can't do anything other than turn everything up to 11 and whip the piss out of the drums.

similarly, i was hoping that joakim remix of clashing egos a couple years back would bring forte a deluge of warm soft not so brash electrohouse..

i gotta cut out the BestThingEver posting on ILM after 5 G+Ts but what would ILM be without obnoxious drunken posting?

I have to mention again Ida No's complete Jacy Farrow-esque foxiness.

Is there a thread for the "After Dark" / Italians Do It Better comp.? It's really great.

No there isn't. Tell us!

it is awesome. especially farah "law of life". such a great label

"law of life" sounds like tangerine dream fronted by lydia lunch

or something

The Farah tracks are definitely the biggest discovery on the disc for me. Really otherworldly. It sounds like she's singing in Farsi over one of the tracks, in this eerie, reverb-drowning pattern over arpeggiated synths.

The Mirage song, Lake of Dreams, has some cool vocal effects and swirls along for almost 10 glissy minutes.

The whole thing conjures not just Goblin but every soundtrack to the canon of sick, dark 1970s Italian horror and Giallo films.

It's my favorite thing I've listened to all year I think.

I love the Chromatics tracks, "In the City" especially. Glass Candy's "Computer Love" is quite fun as well. Also worth tracking down is the first release on the label, Jacques Renault's "Italians Do It Better #1" mix. Tracklisting:

- B.W.H. - Livin Up
- One Two Three - Runaway (Instrumental)
- Gino Soccio - Remember
- Trilogy - Not Love (Instrumental)
- The Nick Straker Band - A Little Bit of Jazz
- Lindstrom - er bestemor paa moten
- Tony Cook and The Party People - On The Floor (Rock-It)
- Detroit Grand Pubahs - Big Onion (Joakim "Slap On It" Remix)
- Electric Mind - Zwei (Dub Version)
- Mya & The Mirror - Hesitation
- My Mine - Hypnotic Tango (Instrumental)
- Photocall - Silver Clouds (Hot Version)
- Liz Torres feat Edward Crosby - Can't Get Enough (Dub)
- MU - Paris Hilton
- Matzo & Pauli - Matzo & Pauli Viewlexx EP
- Skatt Bros. - Walk the Night
- Prins Thomas - Diskomiks Rong EP
- Delia Gonzalez & Gavin Russom - Rise (DFA Remix)
- Shirley Lites - Heat You Up (Melt You Down) Melt Down Mix
- Shelley - Give It To Me

You can get it from Troubleman Unlimited's store, along with the After Dark comp.

Yeah that comp is by far the best thing I've discovered all year. Farah's got some other songs on her myspace page as well.

on the Italians blog it mentions that they're finally getting some vinyl test pressings

oh YEAH! the first batch of Itaians Do It Better 12" releases
are ready to "drop" in a few weeks!:
Chromatics "Shining Violence"
Glass Candy "Miss Broadway"
Professor Genius "La Grotta"
Farah "Law Of Life"

there's also a pretty good Mike S. DJ mix on there

http://vivaitalians.blogspot.com/

whatever happened to the Chromatics full-length??

heard a Farah track on Lindstrom's Late Night Tales tracks and wasn't sure if it was new or old or what. excited to hear the After Dark comp.

yeah that's "law of life". i think farah's songs might also be produced by johnny jewel. it is such a tune.

i think it's all produced by Johnny Jewel except for Professor Genius, who's tracks I think Mike found in the back of some weird record store in Jersey City.

Yeah that comp definitely plays like it came from the same source.

xpost

I own that record store! And, no, I'm not Johnny Jewel.

I heard they closed and are only doing street fairs now.

whatever happened to the Chromatics full-length??

It's around on Souls3ek - I think it was one of those weird (but very cool) "Tour" cds that that crew is fond of. It's called "In Shining Violence." And there's an amazing Suede cover, of all things, on there as well - "Animal Nitrate."

In honor of today, I am now playing the "Theme to Friday the 13th Part III," by Hot Ice (which I've heard was another name used by the Michael Zager Band). It would almost fit perfectly on the "After Dark" comp!

Next, it's "Struck By Boogie Lightning" by L'Ectrique, used to great effect in "Don't Go In the House"!

I probably have heard a bunch of that stuff off their myspace or whatever (not Suede cover, tho) ... I guess I thought Shining Violence was supposed to be a "real" full-length release ... ? they do love to put all their various demo versions out there, don't they.

Struck By Boogie Lightning is the best. I first heard it when DJ Loda played at PS1. I need a copy bad.

i think i have that chromatics cd lying around somewhere, i bought at their last show here.

totally forgot i had it tho!

back to glass candy tho: miss broadway cover = pretty epic

otm

i think shining violence is still in the making.

also ...

glass candy live @ the social in toronto thursday july 26th

and

@ ps1 in nyc aug 11th maybe?

I just tried to buy After Dark and was told it's "not out yet" ;_;

I bought "After Dark" straight from Troubleman. They shipped it right to my home.

Dan, I'm happy to email you "Struck By Boogie Lightning," but the only mp3 I have of it is, sadly, a 128 rip. I have the 12" in storage in the U.S. though, so someday upon my return you might end up with it!

I have an MP3 of it, thanks though, and would definitely make it worth your while if you'd be up for giving up the single!

so in love with the After Dark comp. i'm pretty sure i'd seen the names Glass Candy and Chromatics (maybe even some cover art around?) and just brushed it off as scenester trash electroclash. i fucking love the singing over disco loops and the kraftwerk cover (i should hate it, but it's so thick). not hyped on the belle epoque cover yet mainly because that song is just so special to me. the vocals on it kinda kill it for me, but it might grow on me because the music is pretty cool. all around great stuff.

i love glass candy's lyrics and vocals. they're fucking weird. and it sounds like ida no is trying to sing like bowie with a cold. i hope they do more stuff like "icey shells", just a pulsing synth noise and ida no talking about "is that a man or a crazed monkey" and "stranded crustaceans". fuck knows what that song is about.

Ida No is fucking hot. Also, Shining Violence is not out yet.

Johnny Jewel makes Farah what she is. I was at the show in Texas where they "discovered" her...she was opening up for Glass Candy and Chromatics. Her performace SUCKED. My brother and I were totally bummed out 'cause we thought someone was exploiting a mentally challenged girl. I mean, I really thought she was retarded; her music was that bad. It was like really shitty drums and weird samples from children's records (maybe?) played off-time. She was shrieking like a fucking retard. I'm telling you...they signed her as a joke. I'm convinced. Johnny Jewel was even laughing at her while she was performing. I still feel bad for her. I feel like he's trying to do this whole fucked up teen make-over thing with her.

I got to DJ their show in Houston a few months ago; they're both really nice folks and they put on a wonderful performance.

i don't remember if it's been posted earlier in this thread, but you can download a bunch of cdrs and demo recordings from their fan club site. Each face links to a different album.
http://www.crystalmigraine.co.uk/deathdisco/deathdiscomenu.htm

Professor Genius aka yours truly on WFMU radio a couple of days ago

Each face links to a different album.

oh that's awesome, thx for the link. I have a bunch of that stuff but there's a few i'm missing.

did anyone go see them at PS1?

I got this from the TMU store, and I wonder what the real tracklisting is? The back says 6 tracks, but it has 8 in all, and 'Lovin' Machine' seems to be a reprise of 'Iko Iko'... Can anybody help? Thanks.

Absolutely adore both the After Dark comp and the Chromatics album. Such an amazing sound. And the "Running Up That Hill" cover!

Yeah, I have to say this is the most exciting thing I heard all year.

The Farah tracks are definitely the biggest discovery on the disc for me. Really otherworldly. It sounds like she's singing in Farsi over one of the tracks, in this eerie, reverb-drowning pattern over arpeggiated synths.

-- Ben Boyerrr, Friday, 13 July 2007 15:21 (1 month ago) Link

this is true

3 italians do it better 12"s just dropped, gc, farah and professor genius ... info at the blog http://vivaitalians.blogspot.com/

also according to myspace chromatics has a new cdr out and 'in the city' 12 is coming soon :)

those sleeves are sexy

those sleeves are sexy

This is, if anything, an understatement. Fucking awesome design there.

god the after dark comp is WAY WAY GOOD

Holy shit - I need to set up some kind of direct debit with this label where they just take whatever money they want out of my overdraft and just keep sending me things.

After Dark is awesome. Just ordered the Chromatics LP. Can't find "Iko Iko" anywhere. Did it get a release?

yeah it was released on 12" (the one the thread-starter was talking abt). should be on the troubleman web store unless it sold out.

speaking of good cover art

http://www.themusic.com/images/thumbs/sm_2000188a.jpg

Yep. Got it. Thanks. Is the CD the same tracklisting as the 12"?

not sure! the 12" has like 5 versions of Iko (regular, inst., acappella, "Lovin Machine" etc) plus "Sugar and Whitebread" which might be my favorite song by them ....

those sleeves are sexy

did lee douglas or chuck anderson do those?

should the chromatics get their own thread? i just heard their cover of Running Up That Hill and i'm deeply in love

yes.

pretty sure johnny does ALL the gc cover art as well as the italians stuff. and adam does the chromatics stuff.

Chromatics album is excellent.

after dark needs a serious resequencing effort.

Why?

because whomever sequenced it didn't do a good job?

Another voice to the chorus of praise - this compilation is outstanding. Hopefully it'll help me like the Chromatics album a bit more too.

Ha ha Matt I knew you'd like the comp more as a starting point.

because whomever sequenced it didn't do a good job?

Another vote for not understanding what you're talking about.

seeing these guys (glass candy) tonight!

new tour cd

So has the CD sold out in record time or is it just a case of TMU's store not having updated with it yet? I like what I hear on their Myspace, especially "Digital Versicolor" (and also appreciate that their audio player doesn't start up the instant the page loads, awfully nice of them...)

Oh yeah, probably also worth mentioning that you can download three of the tracks on Beatbox from said myspace ("Beatific," "Digital Versicolor," "Life After Sundown")

the other two new ones on the myspace are good, but i don't fancy what they've done to 'life after sundown'! the version of that which came out on troubleman a while back was way better.

How was the show, max?

it was... eh. ida no is cute but not super charismatic, but i think the real problem was that they didnt have a drummer or a bassist, it was just her and johnny jewel on keyboards--i say this because two of the guys from architecture in helsinki (the headliners) came in & played on the kit and some congas and it really perked everyone up. it was also a low energy crowd (mostly there for aih) & the sound (as always at the troubadour) sucked, so it was hard to get into it. i got in on a +1 and would have been sorta bummed if i had paid. as is i would give them another shot at another venue, but at some point id just as soon go see a good DJ spin some of their records in a club where people were dancing. computer love and iko iko were the highlights i thot. i wanted to buy the tour CD but i didnt bring cash, like an idiot. they also had the iko 12" and the miss broadway 12".

I like Architecture in Helsinki, but that is an odd pairing for a support slot. I want some these guys + Chromatics to come to London. Simonetti DJ sets are fine, but a show would be something worth travelling to. I met the first Chromatics fan I've ever seen outside the US on Friday, which was awesome.

(Seeing AIH cover Love Is The Drug in Sydney was rad, by the way.)

can we talk about mirage here? i assume it is also johnny jewel. the stuff on his myspace is fantastic, particularly "can't stop loving you", would love to hear him delve deeper into this slow-mo super dramatic r'n'b style.

sorry, the song is called "i won't stop loving you".

So that's who it is! "Lady Operator" was my favorite track on After Dark!

is anybody seeing them tonight in sf?

where exactly are they playing?

nevermind just figured it out

whomever sequenced [the After Dark compilation] didn't do a good job

I disagree. Indeed, this interview makes a good case for how well this disc was sequenced (you can also stream the full disc from the PTW interview).

I've only had this disc for a few days, but -- so far -- I love it, top to bottom. That "dark disco" sound is really intoxicating. Could be one of the best discs I've heard in this (very good) year for music.

anyone heard glass candy's B/E/A/T/B/O/X yet .... ? wondering how it is

it's ridiculously great. so so so so so so good.

sweet

Is it out? Mail order only, oder was?

yeah it's out, I think it's another tour cd / troubleman mail order deal

It's out, I've got a copy. Same deal as getting a copy of After Dark- www.troublemanunlimited.com , shop (one of the links along the bottom), non-TMU. They still had copies last I checked, and it's definitely worth it- almost as good as the Chromatics album.

they were actually a lot of fun live last week. the sound was excellent and they did a sweet version of "icy shells".

man, ida was letting out all these whoops i never heard on their records

I have to say that after my intial excitement, once I heard teh Chromatics, I lost a bit of interest in Glass Candy. The echoed-out post-punk vocals can get a bit grating.

The Chromatics album has grown on me a lot but I still prefer Glass Candy - B/E/A/T/B/O/X is the album, right? Awesome.

Love it; love the disco aerobics opening skit thing, and the cover art, and all of it. The 3 Italians things this year are at the top of my list of favourite things all year.

i don't get the chromatics' vocals

the singer has a non-voice but you all will tell me that's the point, right?

REALLY regretting not picking this up when i saw them

"this" = B/E/A/T/B/O/X

You can still get it online:
http://www.troublemanunlimited.com/store/non-tmu.php

i don't get the chromatics' vocals

-- winston, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 02:00 (16 hours ago)

i don't get the male vox, the female vox are awesomest.

You can still get it online:
http://www.troublemanunlimited.com/store/non-tmu.php

has anyone else ordered off this site. just wondering how long it's likely to take for International shipping? colour me eager

It took them a month or so to ship the After Dark compilation to me here in the UK, but I made the mistake of ordering just after the Pitchfork review so I think it was sold out. The Chromatics album got here in like ten days.

I've never had trouble ordering from them and I got the Italians singles real quick (but I am in nyc)

so in love w her

i don't get the male vox, the female vox are awesomest.

explain me the awesomeness please; i don't dislike her voice, it just seems like anybody and everybody could have done the job

micarl, my shipment came way faster than i expected; no more than a week (i live in california)

cutty shes got a dude and hes TALL

tho you could probably out-bike him

shame about the dude, my friend caught her checking me out before they went on stage. we didn't even know it was her!

i kinda <3 beatbox in a way that is making me reevaluate glass candy, who were previously way way way below chromatics in my estimation

explain me the awesomeness please; i don't dislike her voice, it just seems like anybody and everybody could have done the job

-- winston, Friday, 7 December 2007 04:16 (1 hour ago) Link

U DUMB

I'm guessing B/E/A/T/B/O/X/ and Beatbox tour cd are the same thing?!

y

Because.

"y" = "yes"!

B/E/A/T/B/O/X = Beatbox Tour CD!

uk peeps. phonica still have bare copies of b/e/a/t/b/o/x

hey, if anyone has it and wouldn't mind either sending it to me or leonardoing it, i'd be v. interested in hearing the 12" version of "life after sundown"

the link on crystal migraine is broken ;_;

So, I saw Glass Candy live last night. Way better than when I saw them in Texas. I'm really feeling the electronic set over the live-band thing. Also, met Johnny Jewel. Really nice guy. I asked if he had Night Drive for sale, and he gave it to me (along with B/E/A/T/B/O/X and the After Dark comp) for free. Awesome night...Dino Felipe had an awesome set, too.

Side note: Could I possibly be the only person in the world who finds Ariel Pink to be a fucking bore?

The Italians Do It Better stuff is on iTunes and eMusic now, for the record...

U DUMB

just trying to stimulate discussion not invalidate opinions!!

The Italians Do It Better stuff is on iTunes and eMusic now, for the record...

Yeah, but it's just trickling into eMusic, I think. They've got the After Dark comp now. The Glass Candy and Chromatics discs appear the week of December 17.

I am hoping he puts the other stuff from the 12"s on iTunes as well. The remixes/versions/Chromatics' Springsteen cover/etc.

Here's a short feature I just wrote on Mike Simonetti if anyone's interested.

http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Content?oid=479617&category=22153

I want there to be a Farah album already.

the Professor Genius album is on iTunes/eMusic.

Yeah, I saw that Prof. Genius disc appear on eMusic. Is it good?

O yeah it is. Gorgeous.
Tim's right about a Farah album - "Law of Life" is so great (esp. the midnite remix). gf likes it a lot too, always a nice bonus :)
I think Johnny Jewel productions appeal to me because they evoke nostalgic (80s synthpop/wave) feelings but also sound new. I also like the fact that it is so stripped down but feels so rich. And I'm a sucker for melancholic music in general and his music feels very melancholic to me.

Candy Castle is glorious.

Johnny Jewel produced that first Danava record too.

the pfork review of beatbox was sadly poor.

ALright, if 'Candy Castle' was a single, that would be my single of the year by some pretty wide margin. Unbelievable.

Maybe we should start a seperate Farah thread, but I'll post this here: nice short piece by Douglas Wolk on Farah, including a short interview with Johnny Jewel about how he got to work with her. Awesome story. He recorded six songs! Put out the album already, I say. Or at least another 12"...

forgotten link to PTW

As a newb, which one should I get first - After Dark, Night Drive or Beatbox?

after dark, since it has all the artists on this thread on it

Maybe the former, if only because it's a comp - it might help you figure out which one you prefer. Ultimately, do yourself a favor and get all of them.

xp

Yeah that's kinda what I figured anyway. Thanks though.

i was cool towards after dark but beatbox is soooo good

I really like the comp (After Dark). Haven't checked out the Beatbox rec enough yet.

they're not that different

sound-wise

http://breidholt.blogspot.com/2008/01/r-brfalgunni.html (it's not in english, but it's good)

glass candy remix of ssion.

love 'beatific' so much

is that the one that sounds like "get into the groove"?

kinda!

yeah TOTALLY

i loves it regardless

If I can get done with work at a decent hour tonight, I'm going to see them at Cargo. Eager to see how their show differs from the Chromatics one I caught a couple of weeks ago.

Has anyone seen them lately in their recent incarnation?

Yes, they put on a fabulous show I reckon. Ida is totally engaging and warm not at all the ice queen I expected. And Johnny jumps up and down like a maniac. "Miss Broadway" in particular was amazing.

wait, glass candy are playing cargo tonight?

Yep - Mike Simonetti DJing, a band called Grovesnor, and Glass Candy...

(and there seem to still be tickets left)

they were tons of fun live when i saw them but there's not much to look at but then again they ain't dave matthews band

It was a lot of fun. She's a very charismatic frontperson. She started the show much like the album, with a sort of aerobics lesson, which went right into "Digital Versicolor." It's only her and Johnny Jewel, who (as mentioned upthread) goes nuts (a 180 from him in Chromatics, where he stands in the shadows playing bass). He kind of flails his arms, and was eating lots of apples and chugging champagne.

They encored with her singing "Iko Iko" over the beat from the Geto Boys' "My Mind's Playing Tricks on Me" (!) -> "Candy Castle."

I had to run for the tube so didn't get to see Simonetti DJ. The opening act, Grovesnor, was kind of a yacht rock Chromeo thing.

But yeah - Glass Candy = big fun.

I saw Glass Candy in Miami with Ariel Pink and Ida No was wasted enough that she fell off the stage into the bar at the end of her set. This music's so generic it's invisible to me, and I can't believe any of you would favorably compare to the originals their versions of (unimpeachable) Belle Epoque and Kraftwerk songs.

What's Italo anyway, if it's these guys playing fat, fruity, kraut-lifted keyboards over equally fat beats when I remember the style sounding like the brisk, breezy and cocained older cousin of Hi-NRG? Does it start with Moroder and end with Moroder? If those shrill, post-disco age Italo records were remastered, would they have more thickness according to the producers' original intentions?

Revisionist Italo, or the Real Italo, I mean. Or in-between. What do you think question mark

Yet another Challenging Opinion (completely keeping with consensus on this thread): I got that Love Love Love disc when it came out and found it so putrifyingly stupid and hackneyed that I suppose I've developed a bias. I'm sure all involved are nice people.

Tough lesson: Don't keep Pitchfork and Amazon open at the same time.

(Ariel Pink sucked enough that night that I'll never play another album of his again. What a gyp, Vudi wasn't even there.)

there's not much to look at

I respectfully disagree.
That's a pretty foxy duo!

meh. i was so unimpressed last night. hard to imagine how disco (disco!) could feel so lifeless. the whole routine was so rehearsed, so devoid of spirit, it gave me the creeps. the unenthusiastic arm waving. the halfhearted whoo!s. and exactly what do they hope to achieve with the karaoke-style cover of 'computer love'?

i know the frostiness is part-and-parcel of their aesthetic (this rockist delusion that dance music has to be studiously cold and distant), but i'm not sure what it adds (if anything) to the enjoyment - it's actually quite an easy and pointless trick. and musically i think it would be very easy for someone/anyone to improve on their formula -GC are hardly italopop geniuses.

the chromatics gig a few weeks back was a real disappointment too...

actually really enjoyed grovesnor tho

I hate myself for replying to a post that actually uses "meh" unironically, but what the hell...

Legitimately, what could you have possibly expected from these acts? Knowing the music, the aesthetic (it's not like they're all that subtle with the "cold & distant" thing - which, incidentally, neither of these acts were AT ALL! (In the Chromatics thread, people who were at the show said they weren't frosty enough!), the fact that this is obviously being embraced by a generally arms-folded/head-nidding indie audience... I can't wrap my head around how you would know these bands and expect anything other than what they do!

Well, whatever, diff'rent strokes and all that. These 2 shows have been my most fun of the year!

(x-post)

I liked some of those Grovesnor tunes, too. I was fearful of some kind of Har Mar Superstar thing when he came onstage (wacky tuxedo t-shirt, white blazer, big sunglasses, white fedora, beard), but he's got a pretty fun thing going with that sound, I think.

i know it's what you'd expect, i was just massively off-put by the whole execution, maybe it's a personal thing. like i said, something about it just gave me the creeps and felt totally lifeless.

(problem with the chromatics for me was different, it just sounded really thin, like a bad indie band)

sorry if my 'meh' offended you. it was an earnest 'meh'

( that was xpost obviously)

I like bad indie bands, I suppose, so it was up my alley... I just love those songs (I should say Chromatics is actually more up my alley for the most part, but I got hooked on them less from the perspective of someone who knows much about disco (though I like what I've been turned onto by people here), and more from the angle of an obsession with 80s horror movies!)

I was wrong to jump on the "meh." You earned it by actually explaining why (I just have a kneejerk thing after too many people in threads who don't like bands for whatever reason just posting jaded and lazy "meh"s... but yours was legit).

The italo thing is really overstated with both Glass Candy and Chromatics - what I'm starting to find wearing is the seemingly all-pervasive sense of ennui, hopefully any Farah album will sidestep that.

"i know the frostiness is part-and-parcel of their aesthetic (this rockist delusion that dance music has to be studiously cold and distant)"

How does the first part of this necessarily lead into the second? Why would rockism endorse studiously cold and distant dance music?

One could as easily argue for the existence of a rockist delusion that dance music be angry and macho (The Prodigy's third album, Justice etc.) or warm and steeped in "summer of love" links with psychedelia (The Chemical Bros, The Avalanches).

Surely the success of Italians Do It Better among indie audiences has more to do with the contingent historical fact that these audiences have effectively been "primed" for this music by electroclash? But before electroclash happened - and even early on in its existence - the notion that this music would be appealing to rockists would have been pretty odd. Practically the first thing you'd hear about electroclash (before you heard anything about it) was that it was a passing fad for fashion-obsessed art phags (a historical enemy of rockism). The perseverance of electroclash both as a scene and a general influence throughout this decade - and, more, the way it has been embraced by indie audiences - strikes me as a good example of how there are less set-in-stone relationships between musical characteristics and audiences than we like to think. Certainly there is no general dynamic that says "studiously cold and distant" dance music is more appealing to arms-folded indie kids than other dance music.

I know what you're driving at: these kids - had they been alive - probably would not have been into first wave italo, any more than they'd be into, er, bassline or reggaeton or trance-pop or (especially) Eurovision-pop now. But this is a more complicated issue that touches on issues of revivalism and fanbase communities and identity and all sorts of stuff.

PS. I actually don't really hear the ennui in Glass Candy - certainly for Chromatics. But B/E/A/T/B/O/X is actually very fun and uptempo and light-hearted.

PS. I actually don't really hear the ennui in Glass Candy - certainly for Chromatics. But B/E/A/T/B/O/X is actually very fun and uptempo and light-hearted.

Yes to this - B/E/A/T/B/O/X opens with a SKIT for crying out loud! And live last night, Ida No pulling dudes up on stage to dance and play off of was just goofy!

But, yes, Chromatics for sure. And hopefully any Farah album will sidestep that seems like a long shot on that front - her first few songs are ennui arpeggiated!

i don't mind too much as long as the ennui is sexeh

good points tim. i guess this 'frosty' idea is not so much the default rockist stance, but it's still one stereotyped view, a fetishised idea of disco, which ultimately leads to a dead-eyed dead-end.

i wonder if the IDIB approach isn't in a strange way a hangover from the 'disco sucks' brigade's view of disco as emotionally stunted, redefining disco as a kind of ice-maidenly kitsch, rather than embracing its true broadness and depth.

on second thoughts that's probably nonsense

Surely the success of Italians Do It Better among indie audiences has more to do with the contingent historical fact that these audiences have effectively been "primed" for this music by electroclash? But before electroclash happened - and even early on in its existence - the notion that this music would be appealing to rockists would have been pretty odd.

LOL

braveclub- I dont' think its nonsense, 'cept in putting rock and disco in opposition to each other. So many indie bands this decade have moved their guitars behind octave basslines that there's something to it. They tend to focus on the circa 1980 sound of disco when it "ended". I think "late disco" has joined the repertoire of historical moments that arty rock types have always mined as a way of representing personal neuroses. Like how Bowie or Slapp Happy used Weinmar Berlin to suggest dislocation and doom.

Also, it seems that disco, as a style that was perceived to end under the weight of Reaganism and AIDS, holds up better now as a symbol of defiance than the guitar punk which served as the underpinnings for indie rock for so long.

If there are any North-Westerners (Uk division) who like this band, myself and Affectian/NI of ILM parish are putting GLASS CANDY + Mike Simonetti on next Thursday if any of you are about. We won't spam here but the Clique sites have the details.

AAARRRRGGHH

i hate u all

)cept rbin(

"Also, it seems that disco, as a style that was perceived to end under the weight of Reaganism and AIDS, holds up better now as a symbol of defiance than the guitar punk which served as the underpinnings for indie rock for so long."

like wtf does this even mean retards

wtf do you mean?

Lex, don't post when you're drunk.

i ain't drunk i'm goimg out now

aagh stupid automatic login after all these months.stupid computer! i weasn't here right you didn't see me i got away w/murder

Lex, don't post when you're drunk.

Anyway, I think 'ennui' might have been the wrong word WRT Glass Candy but there still seems to be a sort of... listlessness and inertia even when they're trying to be fun. Like there's a void somewhere in the middle where the kinetic bit should be. Maybe this is deliberate, I like BEATBOX quite a bit on record when I just let it wash over me but I'd never go and see them live for the above reason.

Seen them live twice. They were a great amount of fun. It was nice seeing an electronic act that was happy and able to interact with the crowd. They took requests the first time, the second time they stayed around for chats with everyone.

They're indie. They care more about themselves then what they're doing.

They're indie. They care more about themselves then what they're doing.
-- Niles Caulder, Saturday, 10 May 2008 10:04 (3 hours ago)

Fucking christ, is this for real?

i wish there was more Glass Candy on vinyl

seeing farah tonight

guh

her beats are amazing (obvs) but her stage presence and screechy voice kinda bugged.

Please report back... so curious! Does she have something new out?

Glass Candy "cover" Geto Boys' 'Mind playin' tricks on me' on myspace

There's more news there

Bunch of 12", B/E/A/T/B/O/X on vinyl, new album in the fall (with a Shocking Blue cover..?), Farah double LP... o my

i liked what i saw of Farah live. Jaxon's hating for some illogical reasons.

you only saw like the last half of one or 2 songs

"deep gems" is a collection of rare tracks recorded
between march 2006 and october 2008. featuring 10
unreleased songs plus the remix of "miss broadway"
they've been playing live, and the 12" version of
"geto boys". here's the tracklisting of DEEP GEMS:

1 > INTRODUCTION
2 > FEELING WITHOUT TOUCHING
3 > ANIMAL IMAGINATION
4 > THE BEAT'S ALIVE
5 > SOMETHING STIRRING IN SPACE
6 > THEME FROM DEEP GEMS
7 > MORNING MIST
8 > GETO BOYS
9 > MS. BROADWAY REMIX
10 > SOFT BOUNDARIES
11 > STARS & HOUSES
12 > SILVER FOUNTAIN

beat box is dope imo

i'm loving DEEP GEMS btw

is this only available thru online mail order or can you find it in shops?

Just mail order.

they closed with "iko iko" last night. amazing show, with nite jewel. really charismatic... really dancey... sounded so good. picked up deep gems & the nite jewel album

what was nite jewel like live? just wondering how her lo-fi sort of sound went down

sounded amazing actually... better than the record.

which i like, but it really came alive... live.

going tomorrow night in new york ... im psyched

never seen glass candy and I've been a fan for a while now

they're super live imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4Myo0QjwE0

sometimes i hit "o;x" by accident instead of "ilx" and hit enter in the search bar and a google search for "o;x" comes up and the second result is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B/E/A/T/B/O/X