Eric B dead?

No, No, No… Here it is y’all – as far as I know Eric B is still alive and well. The source of this wack rumor is some bone head that thought it was cute to write a fake news story stating that the famous DJ was shot and killed. Well, it’s not true (to my knowledge) and, if you read the story, you can easily tell it’s a fraud. Eric B for president still…I think he could do better than the current commander-in-chief.

Courtesy allhiphop.com

Now, Erik Watts, on the other hand...

ERIK WATTS DROPKICKS THE BUCKET

very much alive...and very much the best blogger....ever?

if you read only one thing today make it be this:

http://philaflava.blogspot.com/2008/12/eric-b-eric-b.html

Peep my album cover, nigga. I shaped that Van Dyke beard with a boxcutter.

The poo-putt, wet behind the ears, dry-dick whippersnappers of today betta recognize the force that was Eric B. In my day I was, how them old folks say? Persuasive.

OG:

I spent the first half of '87 on my Vic20 logged into the local dial-up "RAPPMuZAK" BBS promoting Paid In Full, so I know this online promotions game something fierce. My disk drive was a JVC box that ate tapes for Christ's sake.

original gamer

Those Main Source eskimo-ass wondertwin niggas and Mr. Coke-bottle glasses still shudder when "Chinese Arithmetic" comes on their ITunes. You think the great Eric B. does so much as bat a motherfuckin' eyelid when he hears "Snake Eyes"? Sheeeeeeeeit, I might even sing along.

let me tell you about trade wars, son

sounds like an onion opinion piece

original sockpoppet

i haven't read anything that awesome in the onion for years

sorry thats not really eric b dogg

: (

really?

2 good 2 be true i guess

he came into my work around the time this thread was created. didn't say much. stood large.

the rumor always was he was just the drug dealer who funded rakim, and marley marl was the real creative force behind their early work. really not sure what i make of this rumor.

didn't he also fun craig mack's sophomore effort?

as a scratch dj, he was miles behind the magic mike/mr. mixx/deuce ace detonator too tough types in 1987. but the production was on par with what marley was trailblazing in 87 (and shocklee took to impossible heights by year's end).

I think dude knows chinese arithmetic does not hold up as a 1987 piece...

a touch of jazz >>> chinese arithmetic

all we wanted to do was believe

thanks for ruining christmas

^^^^

god jazzy jeff was fucking hot in 1987

xp

But I'm askin' for real, you ever peeped the "I Ain't No Joke" video? Youtube it up right now. G'head. Wait for that shit to buffer.

pappa do you remember frescho and miz (sp?) philly duo i think the DJ won one of the first DMC championships, i always loved this song, had the cassingle:

^choruses have awesome scratching

oh man crazy old new music seminar shit, freshco battling:

and miz too, they mustve hooked up after the NMS or something

okay i'm turning this into a me talking to myself and posting rad shit i used to jam back in the day:

twin hype - "do it to the crowd"

which always reminded me of this dance 12 inch i have somewhere, i dunno what Tab Two was supposed to be, hip house? acid jazz? anyway i don't snow shit about dance music but this is pretty mellow

http://www.singingfool.com/title.aspx?publishedid=65708

damn, I was all ;_; when I saw this thread title

sorry for the panic

Two Kings in a Cypher - "Movin' on Em"

love the lo-key but sorta speedy style, almost like a proto-Camp Lo type vibe

you know former ilxor ELLI$ usedta chill with 2 kings in a cypher back in the day right

hype black power shit:

movement ex - freedom got a shotgun

you know former ilxor ELLI$ usedta chill with 2 kings in a cypher back in the day right

― Dr. Yakubius (and what), Friday, December 19, 2008 7:08 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

really? that's awesome

Karp ruled.
Worst Case Scenario were probably the last great hardcore band of the 90s before the whole scene turned lame. The 7" on Lookout is probably their best release. I was also at that show in R.I. Very underrated group.

Young Ginns were, at best, decent.

Unwound wise, i'm a "new plastic ideas" and all the 7" s around that time (teh one on Gravity, "m.k ultra"/"totality" and the one on Troubleman) kinda guy.

I never checked the Replikants.

-- ELLI$ (ayo88...), November 10th, 2005.

YOU'RE THE LAST REAL NIGGA ALIVE

-- disco violence (discoviolenc...), January 3rd, 2006. (disco violence)

hahhaha ooouch!

altho....ELLI$ is right about Karp and earlier Unwoud- sweet stuff!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, January 3, 2006 4:43 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha, i stand by Karp and Unwound.

who was discoviolence?

maestro fresh wes, first canadian rapper, or close

xp "coyote" nate patrin

ah i forget all the usernames, makes sense

This thread has put me in the mood for "The Manipulator"

sweet thx matt2!

Chuck Chillout and Kool Chip

lol peewee herman imitator on the intro

black rock & rob

oh man i about wore this tape out, serious lee fine

Let's be real our opponents are petty
I see my foot in their asses already
Yes we plan to move then the groove was made
and we hold a position that we can NEVER trade
I want rhymin'
Timin'!
Growin'
movin' and growin'
flowin'
and I keep goin'

S-T-O-P
U-S

whoever talkin' that shit you better put it to rest
Yo, yo Fine max
Nah, I melt tracks
Jay and Dave put 'em back into wax

I'm Z-in', G-in' test 1-2-3'in'

Wreckin the mic and Mc'n

Sharin and tearin it in just one take

It's caressed and blessed before i give it a break

OUT OF THE SKY!

Three stars have fallen

Me and my team
screamin' and yes y'allin

Drivin' and livin'
never like a Scrooge

Fuck large our Posse's HUGE

eric b is dead while rakim is living it up. there is no justice in this world

m@tt making this the forgotten heroes of 1989 weekday yo mtv raps thread!

King Sun - On The Club Tip

RICHIE RICH - MY DJ PUMP ME UP SOME

MC Rell & The Houserockers - In To The Future

xburt

i think maestro fresh wes just won some canadian lifetime achievement award

haha poppa mc rell and king sun were ones i was getting around to posting!

seriously, coming home from school to watch MTV Raps was like the best thing in life ever

pappa do you remember frescho and miz (sp?) philly duo i think the DJ won one of the first DMC championships, i always loved this song, had the cassingle:

long forgotten!

reminds me of how heated those DJ titles had become back then

I used to debate with myself whether DJ Cash Money could really take Jazzy Jeff

Cash Money and Marvelous - The Mighty Hard Rocker

Cash Money Marvelous - FInd an Ugly Woman

xp tp m@tt

I remember when yo was a just a pilot. they aired it once, and it died.

after a while, they replayed that pilot over and over before finally airing new eps.

forver, follow the leader is "the 1st video on yo" status when i hear it

this thread would be incomplete w/o this obligatory vid

Jaz Featuring Jay-Z Hawaiian Sophie

bummed out i couldn't find the actual video but Jibri Wise One "The House that Dog Built"

had this cassette from 90..Barsha:

we should have done this about 3 or 4 years ago m@tt

Chuck Chillout's jam always immediately segued to this in my mind tks to talking heads' sample

KC Flightt - Planet E

oh man KC Flight, i remember that

i think i posted this on a detroit thread, but awesome dre riding a nice average white band loop

stezo + a motherfuckin helicopter

and not to dive too directly into the dj international hip-house thing...but this was a yo staple, and frankly, aged better than a lot of hip-house

Fast Eddie with Sundance - Git On Up

xpost, of course

Awesome Dre, from Michigan before MC Breed and Kid Rock!

Speaking of Kid Rock of that era...produced by Too Short then, right?

A couple Miami Bass dudes who were signed in Miami were Michigan back to 1987

ICEMAN JA - Dead Or Alive

Iceman JA was also known as Mega Jon Bass, who is on myspace
http://www.myspace.com/megajonsbass

ladies first:

Antoinette - Who's the Boss?

Finesse & Synquis - Soul Sisters

Sweet Tee - On the Smooth Tip

from the Run-DMC album that everyone forgot ever existed:

What about K.M.C. Kru?

hmmmm try again

wow i don't remember KMC, lol charlie daniels conceit is awesome though

eddie murphy's brother or cousin or something:

haha, youtube pwn

is it Avenue? that was half way decent, although never bought the album (ended with leather)

xp, YES K9 Posse. they had one jam I used to love (not military, the other single before that)

yeah The Ave...also had a video for "Pause", album was Back from Hell, the second link works, actually kinda dig it

Pushing it closer to new jack swing, but still, a lesser remembered staple of yo

No Face - Half

xp, yeah, Pause wasn't half bad. It was their "Electric Cafe" album of sorts

I can't vouch for K.M.C. Kru having anything to do with Yo! I didn't have cable (tear) only got to see it twice at my cousin's house.

i only remember KMC Kru in name. I don't think I heard that song then. Had friends who were into it.

DJ Hurricane was an Afro

The Afros - Kickin' Afrolistics

What was that 1992/1993 Family (Familee? Familay?) song?

oh man no face, i had that too cuz of the ed lover verse...but that was a weird album, like quasi-new jack swing, then all of a sudden they were screaming like MOP or some shit w/dudes from 2 Live Crew on "Fake Hair Wearing Bitch"...

afros album was pretty good, that was on JMJ records, like I think the first onyx was

I have "The Hurra" by Hurricane, not bad...

this was probably 90 or maybe even 91

2 Black 2 Strong - "Across the 110"...kinda cool gangsta/black power mix

Ah, found it:
FAM-LEE - Runs In The Famlee (1992)

Hurra had like 3 good songs on it, if I remember

XD at this thread turning into a Matt H vs PappaWheelie nerd-out

haha, matt & me as gladiator voltron!

original concept feat (fat MTV) dr. dre

^^^ big point in my never ending book in progress

that Dre was the 808 king of long island circa 1986.

supposedly, rick rubin's first 808 lessons were from Jazzy Jay, but it was Dre who showed rubin the tricks that became the Beastie Boy/Run-DMC sound of 1986

MC A.D.E. was a South Florida artist (son of record store owner turned label) who cut the first rap song about bass in late 1985 (Bass Rock Express).

By 1986, everyone from everywhere had followed suit, including Original Concept (Pump that Bass)

other 1986 proto-bass jams

Rodeny O - Everlasting Bass
T La Rock w/ Mantronix - Bass Machine
2 Live Crew (of cali at that time) - ghetto bass

UTFO tryin' to stay relevant off the album "Bag it And Bone it"

Doctor Ice goes solo:

i remember LA Posse guest starred on an episode of "What's Happening Now" the 80s followup to "What's Happening"

Cool story Pappa. Just picturing Rick Rubin "getting lessons" on the 808 makes me want to go create something (that no one will ever actually want to hear, but stuff like that just reminds me how inspiring the idea of creating music can be). But that's because I just had my afternoon coffee sitting here at my desk job, and it always makes me all cheesy and sappy. Carry on then.

arabian prince

Bigg Ocean Mobb 415, old school bay area shit

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=22559299

not the whole video but the only thing i could find

easy mo bee before the big time:

i remember LA Posse guest starred on an episode of "What's Happening Now" the 80s followup to "What's Happening"

????

whoa

was bobcat wearing his coon skin?

bobcat was originally in uncle jamm's army

radio interview with 2 members (other than bobcat), and a v v strange interviewer

early NYC street shit...Pappa do you remember Pretty Tone Capone? Was he one of those real life dudes that started rapping like Mobstyle??

whoa, never heard this one

tone spittin all over that mic

pretty sure this is the first time Cypress Hill was ever mentioned on a record (in the outro) (& eazy e diss thrown in there):

Mellow Man Ace - Rhyme Fighter

Anyone know the big-band swing sample on this (obv not the Dr. John sample)?

Steady B - Serious (Serious BDP Mix)

nah i don't know it but i def remember that video (the krs version)

kid capri - "the apollo"

that Mellow Man Ace jam was my jam (war's galaxy sample!)

speaking of cypress hill, muggs first break into the spotlight (with a bomb squad beat)

The 7A3 - Coolin´ in Cali

thank you! i had been trying to think of 7A3!!!

that kid capri/PE horn sadly became a HUGE hit around 1992 with this

N 2 Deep - Back to the Hotel

never understood the appeal of ^^^^

i remember when cypress hill came out with temple of boom, i remember this group, Nemesis from dallas who had an album called temple of boom a few years before:

probably because i was a sissy soft punk into shit like this at the time

Lighter Shade of Brown - On A Sunday Afternoon

Candyman - Knockin Boots

xpost matt.

nemesis was HUGE HUGE HUGE in north florida amongst the white, suburban, lowrider dudes thanks to the Munchies' bassline.

I wasn't aware that Ron C was part of they crew until recently.

I LOVED Ron C's Miami Bass tracks. One appeard on Yo a couple times

Ron C - Do Dat Danz (not real video though)

his other miami style track from that album

Ron C - South Dallas Drop

I mean every lowridin dude in the late 80s was playing this, and I was never a fan at all. still doesn't work to me, but i can see why that bassline was their thing before the car audio explosion of Techmaster and his ilk.

Nemesis - Munchies For Your Bass

yeah i remember ron c tapes were big with my friends that were into car stereos and shit...also dj magic mike

speaking of miami bass, the original Atlanta MC MC Shy D does a great 2 Live Crew circa Move Somethin' rip:

^^^ Dj Toomp's first record, before he got big with T.I

the shy d record was toomp??

just because i saw it on the bottom of the nemesis video, back when Twista was Tung Twista and dressed all dorky like Del/native tongue ATCQ type clothes

actually, the first toomp record to my knowledge:

1986
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f185/PappaWheelie/1986RahiemTwins.jpg

Shy D relied on Miami to get on while Arvis Records laid the real groundwork for Atlanta's Hip-Hop scene at home.

Rahiem the Dream and Kilo both are 80s Atlanta heroes.

Kilo - America Has a Problem, Cocaine

xp, yeah, DJ Toomp and Mike Fresh were Shy D's DJs, who became a production team known as the ODS, and produced some of 2 Live Crew's Sports Weekend, and I think some early Poison Clan

Wow...I had no idea he went that far back...crazy...

In other "where were they then":

Before they were Mobb Deep, they were lil' kid rappers called Poetical Prophets, but still talking a surprising amount of ganster shit...i actually remember reading about them in The Source's Unsigned Hype column:

I've done a fairly long interview with Shy D. We keep meaning to pick it back up in the near future.

Very interesting on the Miami/Atlanta relationship.

Shy says some guy named Mojo was the BIG act in town in the early 80s, and Shy always says Mojo is the true man that deserves credit as Atlanta MC #1.

Never could find anything on Mojo.

xp

In other "where were they then":

I feel really stupid not knowing the DIC crew story until this past weekend, which accounts for so many mid-90s dudes (Showbiz, AG, Lord Finesse, etc)

i really don't know much about old school atlanta/south shit...get that book done!

i think jay-z got a rhyme of the month for this guest verse on orginal flavor's "Can I Get Open?"

hot damn that's good. never heard that.

i really wonder who was instrumental in reducing hip-hop beats form shocklee inspired excess down to early 90s minimalism like that. especially when andre harell cluttered up 1990/1991 with New Jack R&B

whoa only heard the instrumental of that on that shortcut/cut chemist mixcd

Sam Sever's group
Downtown Science - Radioactive

K- Solo - Your Mom's In My Business

K-Solo - Spellbound

Yo staple here:

Poor Righteous Teachers - Rock Dis Funky Joint

i think she was the first female on def jam..nikki d!

couldn't handle getting beat by Obama, RIP

say what?

but do you all remember funkmaster wizard wiz?

and never forget the original west coast rapper

man can't believe "weenie whistler" is lost to the ages, this will have to do

i think bobby jimmy used the title "original prankster" before the offspring.

I'm so old school I remember when this came out

okay just cuz I love you guys here's "weenie whistler"

your life will never be the same

http://www.4shared.com/get/56355278/417e7e5c/bobby_jimmy_-_Weenie_Whistler.html

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oops

Greysun & Jayson - Livin' Like A Trooper

ffff fuck

I'm going back to sleep

Change the fucking title, evil internetterz.

"Eric B" blogging fun here for post-invective bonus beat.

does this go here?

it's been lodged in my head for a week now after seeing it on the 'tube. i had all but forgotten about it. apparently Controversy is oop.

last frame is loooooool!!!!

remembered this the other day:

"wash yo ass" by convicts (big mike's group before he had solo stuff or joined the geto boys)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en-eu20N7AY

i followed the official eric b. and rakim twitter account

anyway i did it then like an hour later i got a direct message from them that said:

"paid in full"

<3

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/uponsun/2010/03/krazy_d_what_happened_after_nw.php?page=1

^^^really fucking cool interview with Krazy D, known as the "white guy" on the cover of NWA and the Posse, but actually latino...original member

fun fact: he co-wrote "Panic Zone" which was originally "Hispanic Zone"

That's an interesting article, but what does it have to do with Eric B?

tuomas, if you peruse the thread you can see that it evolved past discussing whether or not Eric B. was dead or not to me and pappawheelie geeking out about general old rap topics.