Rolling top 40 discussion thread, nr2.

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So, will Shayne plummet down the chart this week, judging by the piles of CDs I saw at the front of all the stores, the days after christmas?

Or are they there to help people still desperate to get them?

mark grout (mark grout), Saturday, 31 December 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

http://lukedubois.com/billboard

dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Saturday, 31 December 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

It sounds like Earthbound!!!

I like how high it gets for "The Chipmunk Song"

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 31 December 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

Considering this week's biggest release is the fourth single off the Hard-Fi album, I'm guessing the rapist's son should be able to hold out for another week.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 1 January 2006 16:23 (twenty years ago)

lol with that sort of material maybe you can get paid one day lol amirite!

jess harvell, Sunday, 1 January 2006 17:20 (twenty years ago)

lol 2006 amirite

Bland silver-tonsilled rapechild Shayne Ward clocks up a second week at number two, and similarly "My crazy dad, what will he get up to next! Oh, die of a heart attack" funsters Nizlopi remain at #2.

Highest new entry sees Hard-Fi decide money is a "good thing" at #14, and that's the sole new entry. However, post Xmas singles sales and download madness see re-entries for some old warhoses, including James Blunt at 16, Sugababes at 19, Kanye at 29, Kelly Clarkson at 36, Coldplay at 37, and the Kaisers at 39. 23 weeks on the chart for Daniel Powter. He's going to break half a year, isn't he?

Eminem holds on to #1 in the album charts, with Led Zeppelin's "Four Symbols" debuting at a majestic #40. Rock music, amirite?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 1 January 2006 19:02 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
I’m no Swygart but since no one else is bothering to do this thing, and some nice action is finally returning to the Top 40…

This week the uk top 40 witnesses the second coming of the saviours of British Rock!

But first, #38 sees Sway trouble the waters of the top 40 for the first time, with his novelty/celebratory single. The bloke who triumphed over Fiddy at the MOBOs proves he can rhyme things with pooh. Forward Russia, despite its moniker, do not seem to write anthems about the advance of Leninism, but are quite unlistenable at #36. Ditto Test Icicles at #31. The Ordinary Boys move up 3 to #30 because someone from the band is in some TV show and is set to make a huge leap next week when it’s re-released. #27 is the Pussycat Dolls, who at 20 weeks, are the longest runner on the top 40. Like the Sugababes, Kanye and Arctic Monkeys, they have 2 singles in the chart.

But all is forgiven as Belle & Sebastian reach their highest chart position at number 13 with the lovely little jaunt “Funny Little Frog.” Given their steady rise of their past few singles – I’m A Cuckoo and Books EP both making the top 20, with any luck, I’m hoping that “The Blues Are Still Blue” and the left ladies in the launderette will gatecrash the top 10. By making number 13, “Funny Little Frog” has the distinction of being the highest charting single of any worth not playlisted by Radio 1 since the debacle when they missed out on Blu Cantrell/Sean Paul. Contestations?

Top 10:
JK & Joel interview Son of Dork guy who avoids the usual courteous “number 10 is great” attitude and acts MAD because he realises that he can’t scale the heights that he used to with Busted. He is pissed that an equally “credible” band, the Arctic Monkees aren’t at No. 10. Note to SoD guy: maybe you shouldn’t have broken up.

Monsieur Ashcroft befuddles everyone by remaining in the top 10, #8 is a dance take on that Michael Jackson/McCartney song by Hi-Tack, #7 dance take on Baywatch theme, #6 Nizlopi and their Asian dad still hanging around, and #5 hurrahs all around as Shayne Ward is finally knocked off the top after 4 weeks by a slew of new entries.

#4 Beyonce’s new single is sadly missing one of the following: Shawn Carter, Sean Paul, Rich Harrison, Kelly Rowland, thus only deserves number 4.
#3 is Will Young with the “actually quite sublime” “All Time Love” complete with a wonderfully ambiguous video. Is it just me or does Will Young have the greatest run of videos going on right now? In “Leave Right Now” he is quite crazed as he resists all attempts to drag him away from the camera, “Your Game” features bombastic sets as he pretends he’s a huge Broadway star, “Friday’s Child” begins with a great shot with him in arm floaties, “Switch It On” the notorious Hot Gun video, and “All Time Love” vaguely homoerotic, vaguely political, vaguely sentimental. Seriously, Will Young, well at least after his renaissance, is the definitive music video artist of this millennium.
#2 What are they trying to prove by mining Notorious BIG for all possible profit? Let’s all agree to leave them poor dead rappers alone.
#1 Arctic Monkeys – “When The Sun Goes Down.” Britain laps up a song about a scummy man. We all know the spiel, they’re set to be bigger than Oasis, the band that the Libertines couldn’t be, the biggest debut album in ages, perfect proclaims the guardian, the observer, NME, even Slate, all thanks to crazed fans on the internet and unironic Girls Aloud covers, etc, etc. Well they’re set to get the double next week by topping both singles and albums charts.

Surely the NME must be shitting themselves, especially with both Hard-Fi and the Editors knocking off the Bluntmeister in the albums chart.

Meanwhile, the Blunt advances to #15 on the US Hot 100, feasting its eyes on the top 10. Also flying the flag is Natasha Bedingfield at 28. The Brits only the export the very best.

danzig (danzig), Monday, 23 January 2006 01:18 (twenty years ago)

MUSIC
.Bon Jovi plane skids off runway
. Arctic Monkeys top charts again


(BBC News website)

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 23 January 2006 11:40 (twenty years ago)

COINCIDINK?

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 23 January 2006 12:03 (twenty years ago)

fuck Blunt

blunt (blunt), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 22:11 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
REMEMBER LEO SAYER? DO YOU?

Last seen in the advertising bumpers for Network Q during the commercial breaks on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire, Leo Sayer brings teh irony to the #1 spot as "Thunder In My Heart" by Meck is your new #1 single. Two of histories finest playaz, Biggie Smalls and Preston from the Ordinary Boys take up the #2 and #3 spots, and Dead Or Alive are still top 5.

New entries: "You Got The Love" is still the best dance single ever and returns for its third appearance in the top ten (following on from 1991 and 1997) at #7, and Fall Out Boy finally kick off the Myspacemo movement in the UK at #8. Kubb may yet be (undeservingly) saved from the dumper at #18, probably can't say the same about Anthony Costa at #19 though. The fucking Alarm are at #24, and Bullet For My Valentine are upset about various things at #29. Three 6 Mafia score the most unlikely UK top 40 chart apperance since, well, Mogwai had one last week at #33, and El Presidente drop an early single of the eyar contender at #39 with "Turn This Thing Around".

Albumwise, you can make it three whole weeks of indie ruling this country with an iron first, as the Antic Markets retain that #1 spot, jsut ahead of your friend and mine, James Blunt at #2. "The Life Pursuit" gives Belle and Sebastian their most succesful album to date a #8, and Chris Brown turns up for one week before vanishing forever at #29. Worth noting at #7 are the Kaiser Chiefs, who are 3 weeks away from having the first entirely uninterrupted year in the charts since the Scissor Sisters. Well done all involved.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 12 February 2006 19:23 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
No wonder this thread has fallen into partial dereliction.

Chico Time on one hand, and Corinne Bastard Jesus Christ Do We Have To Go Through All This Shit Again Bailey "Not As Good As Jesse" Rae on the other. Now I know how 1967 felt.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 6 March 2006 12:30 (twenty years ago)

Not to mention the intense meeting of minds and talents that brings together the Pussycat Dolls and Will.I.Am at #2, and ROCK IS BACK, NO NOT INDIE-ROCK ACTUAL ROCK with Orson at #5, and I've not seen a lead singer rock that mid 90s alt.rock AIDS patient chic in a long time.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 6 March 2006 12:46 (twenty years ago)

Coxon more popular than Wigwam :(

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 6 March 2006 12:55 (twenty years ago)

Shakira in at number nine. The single and the album aren't bad, and would have been great had it not been for Shakira (that Alanis/Dolores Cranberry yodel does my nut in).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 6 March 2006 13:25 (twenty years ago)

It's still Chico time. Orson without the Welles up to 2, Sugababes' "Red Dress (Stalinist Rewrite Mix)" in at 4.

Meanwhile in the album chart it's Mogadon time - The Voice And Guitar Of Pink Floyd (can Syd sue?) straight in at number one, Andrea Bocelli at 4, Van Morrison at 8 (and if more than eight people bought that I'd be bloody surprised). Elsewhere Shakira, Delays, Morning Runner, Leo Sayer, Mogwai, Mystery Jets and Little Willies all underperform.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 13 March 2006 10:39 (twenty years ago)

Placebo chart ahead of Black Eyed Peas and Bow Wow! Lol goffs.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 13 March 2006 10:46 (twenty years ago)

tell me about Orson. why are they #2? (Note: it's that rare beast, a good ol' fashioned "climber").

P.S. next week, Westwood is presenting the Top 40 show on Radio 1 (!!!) albeit with Scott Mills holding his hand.

zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 13 March 2006 11:06 (twenty years ago)

Orson are this year's Maroon 5.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 13 March 2006 11:08 (twenty years ago)

That is true:

the first track you hear is alright, the next is Oh Them again, and the subsequent stuff is oh no.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 13 March 2006 11:23 (twenty years ago)

The Modern's shock top twenty triumph is a bit short-lived

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 13 March 2006 13:06 (twenty years ago)

Man, The Modern, there's a band Marcello needs to deal with the aesthetic of...

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 13 March 2006 13:07 (twenty years ago)

...for the usual fee...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 13 March 2006 13:21 (twenty years ago)

You can have a bottle of Boots' "Delicious" range Pomegranate and Raspberry Hi Juice.

Now read this: http://www.popjustice.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=109&Itemid=147

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 13 March 2006 13:31 (twenty years ago)

Orson now number one. Black Eyed Peas inexplicably soar from 16 to 3. Girls Aloud in at 6. Michael Jackson's "Beat It" even more inexplicably a re-entry at 15. Massive Attack's rather dreary "Live With Me" in at 17 - nice to see Terry Callier in the chart, I guess, but preferably with "Love Theme From Spartacus" which should have been a number one back in '98 time.

One hit wonder Corinne Bailey Rae returns to the top of the album chart, narrowly beating Russell "The Voice" Watson. What I want to know is when Penny Smith's album is coming out - I liked what Morley said in OMM yesterday about her singing, i.e. like the only two singers she'd ever heard had been Hilda Ogden and Captain Beefheart.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 20 March 2006 10:19 (twenty years ago)

I wonder if Hawthorne Heights single will chart above Ne-Yo's in the UK?

I actually enjoyed the OMM yesterday, not least for Man Like Simon Reynolds' accurate description of which is the best website for music writing.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 20 March 2006 11:21 (twenty years ago)

"Yes, I would certainly agree that Stylus is far and away the best site for new music writing on the Web!" quipped Stylus contributor Marcello Carlin!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 20 March 2006 11:31 (twenty years ago)

"See also: www.pitchforkmedia.com". How we smirked...

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 20 March 2006 11:41 (twenty years ago)

Simon Mayo at the end of his Radio 2 Album Chart Show yesterday: "If you have been upset or traumatised by anything you have heard in the last hour, there is a Radio 2 helpline..." Mother's Day gone mad, with X-Factor also rans straight in at one and two and otherwise lots of cod-opera and unsatisfactory MoR compilations. I can't imagine a David Essex Greatest Hits collection without "Imperial Wizard" on it but there it is, at number seven (neither of his Saint Etienne collaborations are included, surprisingly with an irony to said surprise). Otherwise, Barry M, J Mathis and trusty old Carpenters and Sedaka. The presence of Prince and Beverley Knight at 9 and 10 respectively does not suggest stratospheric general sales figures over the last seven days.

Singles chart ultra-boring with a few old-style leaps to the top - Ne-Yo from 18 to 1, Pink from 49 to 4, Sean Paul from 53 to 11, oh and World Cup anthem authors Embrace in at 2 Southall to thread obv.

Michael Jackson reappears at 16 with "Bad." Yeah Yeah Yeahs at 18. And down at 71, why it's Killing Joke with "Hosannas From The Basements Of Hell."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 07:20 (twenty years ago)

DNFTF!

(I'm kidding, you can if you want to)

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 07:55 (twenty years ago)

Those big climbs are presumably the result of the new ruling: that you can release a single on download only for a maximum of one week before the CD version comes out... have I got that right?

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 10:10 (twenty years ago)

Indeed. Reminds me of the "good" old days when Nick Berry could vault from 66 to 4 in one week and provoke the following brief debate in the record shop where I worked at the time:

Boss: What where who hell he?
Me: EastEnders.
Boss: Oh shit...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 11:04 (twenty years ago)

And, apparently, this weekend we'll be getting the first ever download-only number one since downloads were incorporated.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:20 (twenty years ago)

Gnarls Barkley? Wouldn't mind if it were; single of the year thus far by a LONG chalk.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:25 (twenty years ago)

Put it this way. A soul machine has killed him. It has killed him.

(dunno if it's THE single of the year, but it's abso-definitely up there. I don't reckon we'll be getting the Marit Larsen or RIP SLYME on these shores anytime soon, anyway)

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:50 (twenty years ago)

Ah, ol' morrissey. He seems to just miss out so often on that "Number One" to a "once in a while" type phenomenon (da da di dah dah)

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 06:53 (twenty years ago)

And so Cee-Lo Green didst make history and get on ITV Evening News and everything. Gnarls and Moz sandwich Ne-Yo in the top 3, and The Kooks' street team propel them 22 places upwards to #6. Wonderful. Mike Skinner's drum loop takes him to #8. Depeche Mode #12, the Jacko reissue campaign continues to limp along at this week's #16, and that 'download only' thing puts Mary J Blige and U2 at #19. They've learnt to share. Awww.

Editors can finally stop promoting that bloody album at #21, one slot ahead of Sheffield types Milburn, who I've not heard but kind of suspect I don't really need to. A tribute single for Jinky Johnstone and the Radio 4 theme are at #28 and #29, ahead of The Automatic at 32 and The Pipettes at 35.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 2 April 2006 17:10 (twenty years ago)

And in the albums, Embrace pip the Massive Attack singles comp to #1. Yeah Yeah Yeahs are #7, and the Kooks album climbs 24 places to #33. Wonderful.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 2 April 2006 17:12 (twenty years ago)

JK and Joel played the Pipettes person "ringing in", and about 1 min of the record. Cheers guys.

mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 2 April 2006 17:18 (twenty years ago)

Hilariously, the Radio 4 theme has charted at least twenty places single than any single by Radio 4 did.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 2 April 2006 17:22 (twenty years ago)

no. of 'Crazy' CDs sold this next week to outstrip no. of 'Crazy' downloads this last week presumably?

meaning 'Crazy' would be first #1 since ???* to have 2nd week sales gain?


*could be Shane X-Factor for all i know

Konal Doddz (blueski), Sunday, 2 April 2006 17:23 (twenty years ago)

I have a weird feeling that Eric Prydz may have managed that feat, but I'm not sure where to check sales figures.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 2 April 2006 17:24 (twenty years ago)

2nd week sales gain for a single already at #1 i meant

Konal Doddz (blueski), Sunday, 2 April 2006 17:27 (twenty years ago)

Earlier, that should have read the Kooks climb 24 places to #9.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 3 April 2006 01:05 (twenty years ago)

I am amused that The Streets could only go in at #8. Given that if the song had been any cop it would have been a dead cert to go top 5 ("Fit" made #4, and surely after having had a number one single off the last album, expectations would be high), the fact that it missed it shows how bloody awful it is.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 3 April 2006 02:08 (twenty years ago)

Yes! First download number one performed by act ITN viewers are likely never to have heard of! And a black act at that! No wonder they'd never hear of it!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 3 April 2006 07:11 (twenty years ago)

Ed i don't think Skinner could've been that bothered about chart placing considering how WYWF sounds. Also this is still higher than Rachel Stevens :(

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 3 April 2006 09:04 (twenty years ago)

It's a heck of an attempt to create a Media Event for someone who's not bothered about chart placings, no?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 3 April 2006 09:09 (twenty years ago)

Well at least at the same time he went out to make something unusual in sound, unexpected. I don't really like it but that's the risk he appears willing to take which is still sort of admirable.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 3 April 2006 09:14 (twenty years ago)

the fact that it missed it shows how bloody awful it is.

no it doesn't! i mean it IS terrible but let us not forget that the streets' only no 1 to date came with one of the most ghastly things i've ever heard in my life, certainly worse than this.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 3 April 2006 09:16 (twenty years ago)

It's only just occured to me - When You Wasn't Famous does sound a fair bit like Fierce Girl. Unless I'm badly mis-remembering Fierce Girl.

What this means, I have no idea.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 3 April 2006 09:19 (twenty years ago)

they don't really sound alike, unless you mean 'What Makes A Girl Fierce' - i always have trouble remembering that one.

'Fierce Girl' is still great!

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 3 April 2006 09:27 (twenty years ago)

Least sincere TOTP link ever: Billy Cotton Junior or whatever her name is last night saying, "There's a 30-minute special on the Streets on BBC2 next week. Can't wait."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 3 April 2006 09:34 (twenty years ago)

haven't heard the streets elpee but don't understand the hate; initially i wasn't keen, but... now i am. can it be true that 'agdcff' only had two singles? that's my recall.

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Monday, 3 April 2006 09:37 (twenty years ago)

no, 4 singles in total (Blinded By The Lights and Could Well Be In were the other two).

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 3 April 2006 09:43 (twenty years ago)

apart from 'weak become heroes' even the singles off opm were the worst songs from the album! there have only been three good streets singles, i think!

18 Streets Has It Come To This Oct 2001
30 Streets Let's Push Things Forward Apr 2002
27 Streets Weak Become Heroes Aug 2002
21 Streets Don't Mug Yourself Nov 2002
4 Streets Fit But You Know It May 2004
1 Streets Dry Your Eyes Jul 2004
10 Streets Blinded By The Lights Oct 2004
30 Streets Could Well Be In Dec 2004
8 Streets When You Wasn't Famous Apr 2006

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 3 April 2006 10:20 (twenty years ago)

Are you fucking nuts?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 3 April 2006 10:25 (twenty years ago)

there's only three i don't like much (DYE plus the most recent two). i was incensed that Let's Push Things Forward only made #30 as I felt it sounded like and ought to have been a top 10 hit.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 3 April 2006 10:26 (twenty years ago)

leave it out lex!

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Monday, 3 April 2006 10:27 (twenty years ago)

So yeah, has anyone heard Milburn then?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 3 April 2006 10:31 (twenty years ago)

oh come on all the streets singles after 'weak become heroes' are completely indefensible apart from 'blinded by the lights'.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 3 April 2006 10:35 (twenty years ago)

i thought they were a spoof, when they were on popworld.

xpost

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Monday, 3 April 2006 10:36 (twenty years ago)

Make that 2 weeks of Gnarls Barkley at the top of the charts, as the combined forces of U2 and Mary J Blige fail to displace "Crazy". Pretty dull top 10, stuff barely moves with the exception of a new entry for That Pretty Girl and her Zutons at #9.

Frank Ferdinand is at #14, Mish Mash are on Data so you can guess what they might sound like at #16, and Jacko really isn't doing himself any favours with a rerelease of "Dirty Diana" at #17.

Belle and Sebastian are at #25 with "The Blues are Still Blue", the Charlatans are still going for some reason at #28, and thankfully D4L aren't as popular as they are in America at #29.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 9 April 2006 18:27 (twenty years ago)

dom stop dissing 'laffy taffy'.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 April 2006 07:29 (twenty years ago)

Morrissey's first number one album in twelve years, though it doesn't deserve to be.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 April 2006 11:34 (twenty years ago)

While I'm here, some random thoughts on yesterday's TOTP:

Snow Patrol - how and when did they walk the line from Arab Strap to REO Speedwagon?

I've never got Belle and Sebastian. I thought I was getting somewhere with the previous album, but typically that was down to Trevor Horn's producing and arranging genius. I've always found them rather creepy, like the Moonies' idea of an indie group.

Yazz was dated but in a good way - I've always loved that record for personal reasons.

The Streets seem to have become TOTP's weekly running joke - where did all the inspiration go? Tired thoughts from a dead pen.

Why were the Crimea on? Ah yes, brother of a Radio 1 DJ. Nice to see that old-style licence fee-funded BBC nepotism survives in this day and age.

Daniel Powter - his irritating headgear has "one hit wonder" emblazoned across it as surely as the FINAL DEMAND stamp over the council tax bill.

The Zutons were as dull as ever - if not for "That Pretty Girl" they would be nowhere near number nine in the charts.

Sadly I suspect that Gnarls Barkley have "one-hit wonder" written all over them as well (how many times have you listened to World Clique in the last 15 years?) - but what a hit!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 April 2006 11:37 (twenty years ago)

"The Zutons, straight into the top ten" is a phrase you probably won't hear again...

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 10 April 2006 11:47 (twenty years ago)

Bean East in today's Metro memorably disses their new LP by comparing them to The Commitments(!)

zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 10 April 2006 13:52 (twenty years ago)

worst Zutons single yet, highest charting Zutons single yet. this is a depressingly familiar pattern.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 10 April 2006 13:55 (twenty years ago)

And so Gnarls' run continues, this week holding off Shayne Ward who lands at #2 with his really-not-that-bad-though-not-that-good-either second single. More of interest is that Rihanna is at #5 on downloads alone, possibly meaning that Miss Thickness will be on top this time next week.

For no apparent reason 'It's Chico Time' has climbed from #26 to #13.

#14 is the last Hard-Fi single for a bit, #15 sees Trina finding out just how far Kelly Rowland's star power can get her, and Ludacris does the same for Jamie Foxx at #16. And Jamie Foxx has an Oscar. The Jacko re-release campaign continues to refuse to do the decent thing and go away - this week, Smooth Criminal is the equivalent of discovering that no-one in the room shares your enthusiasm for Radio 3, or something. Ahem. It's #19.

Fall Out Boy TAKE EMO BY THE SCRUFF OF THE NECK and LEAD IT INTO THE MUSICAL FOREGROUND by being EXACTLY AS POPULAR AS FUNERAL FOR A FRIEND at #26, last Gorillaz single for a bit at #27, last Studio B single ever at #28 (and it's not too shabby, actually), and Lorraine continue the Curse Of Popjustice at #29, or at least they would if they were less rubbidge. Our last new entry are Infernal, who take 'From Paris To Berlin' to #34 on downloads alone, meaning next week's chart could well be seeing some red-hot Danish tack-disco action at the business end. CORKING!

Also, some albums. 'Big' Mick Skinner is yr new #1. Hayley Westen-RAH! returns to #16, and Don Williams' Greatest Hits club together DEFINITIVELY at #27 (I should know who he is, I suspect, yet somehow I've not a clue).

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 16 April 2006 19:54 (twenty years ago)

is Don Williams the cowboy guy in The Big Lebowski? he sounds EXACTLY like him.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Sunday, 16 April 2006 22:01 (twenty years ago)

He's a country dude from the 70s. Fuck knows what he's doing in the UK charts. Asda got an offer on him or something?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 16 April 2006 22:08 (twenty years ago)

hang on trina is in the top 20?!?!?! wtf. well done trina!

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 17 April 2006 09:32 (twenty years ago)

Is Rihanna *really* the dumbest pop star ever? I know this is the received wisdom, but can we see some empirical data for the fact?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 April 2006 09:33 (twenty years ago)

Suggest future photoshoots for Gnarls Barkley: Rollerball, Deliverance, No Holds Barred, The Adventures of Johnny Wadd. It's four weeks at the top spot for them anyway, as Rihanna can't sell enough physical copies in her second week to knock them off, and stalls at number two. Also making MP3 to CD sales increases this week are Infernal (#4 from #34) and Fall Out Boy (#8 from #26). Those NME editors know what's popping on the streets.

Deep Dish featuring Stevie Nicks bring that Arabic coffee-table house/cocaine up the arse fusion to the masses at #14, Michael Jackson now more and more resembles a minor Formula 1 team trying to get at least one points finish at #15, and the Flaming Lips produce the usual bullshit bearded shit for Q magazine readers at #16.

Blaze featuring Barbra Tucker is something I've never heard but could quite possibly be some Hed Kandi detritus judging by the cover at #17, and Lex will no doubt be along in a bit to tell us how great Soundbwoy Ent are at #18. Richard Ashcroft, fresh off 100 posts about which dead people he has written songs baout in the Streets thread, comes in at #20.

THE LAST EVER BAND ON POPWORLD BEFORE IT WENT SHIT Snow Patrol are over at #30, Juanes will be soundtracking your next visit to a Tex/Mex diner at #32, and A-Ha are still going at #39. Well done A-Ha. "Because of You", for some reason, enters the charts at #40.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 23 April 2006 17:51 (twenty years ago)

Snow Patrol's an MP3-only entry, which probably puts them top 5 next week.

In the albums, kind-hearted people's champion Shayne Ward coasts to #1 ahead of The Zutons ft. Abi Harding's Legs. Peter Grant (didn't he used to play for Celtic) is #8 with the astoundingly presumptuously titled 'New Vintage'. Charlatans #10, God shuffles feet. 'On and On' re-enters at #39 to give Jack Johnson two albums in the top 40. Great.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 23 April 2006 19:19 (twenty years ago)

Peter Grant is an 18-year-old crooner from Guiseley. 'New Vintage' is an album of covers. the bonus track is a cover of The Kaiser Chiefs' 'Modern Way'.

He's preferable to The Choirboys.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 23 April 2006 19:29 (twenty years ago)

I am heartened to see "La Camisa Negra" at #32, it is a fine, jaunty piece of work with a nicely done video.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 24 April 2006 04:09 (twenty years ago)

And so, as America celebrates its fifth week of Powter, we get our fifth week of Gnarls. In summary - ner-ner-nee-ner-ner.

Infernal climb to 3, Brendan Benson and his celebrity chums pip Didz Hammond and his celebrity chums to #4, Snow Patrol's second week climb scales the dizzy heights of #7, and Chicane prod Tom Jones to #8. The Kooks are still in the top 10.

Will Young's 'Who Am I' is #11. has that been released already? I don't remember seeing it in the schedules... Funky See Funky Do get to #12 on downloads, and Chris Brown is #13. I neither know nor care how he got there. This week's under-performing Jacko re-release is Black or White, at #18.

Also on the download - Beatfreakz and their midget Jacko are #21. HIM are #26, that christ-awful Nina Simone remix jobby is #30, Ultrabeat ride the DJ Daz-inspired wave of Northern House enthusiasm all the way to #35, and Damian Marley is #39, somehow.

Gnarls Barkley are also #1 in the albums. Below them, a bevy of new entries - Springsteen makes Pete Seeger accessible for the younger generation at #3, Rihanna's album must have been out before at #6, Mark Knopfler and Emmylou Harris sneak into #8, and Jamie Foxx is no longer Ray Charles at #9.

Taking Back Sunday are #18. Maybe it's right to be nervous now, etc. Two slots further down, Panic! At The Disco.

Wolfmother are #25. How?

Oh, and Jack Johnson's Brushfire Fairytales is at #36, meaning there's now three of his albums in the top 40. Sainsbury's must be coining it in.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 April 2006 17:58 (twenty years ago)

That Beatfreekz track has the sound of a number one single to me. Irony of ironies if it did go to the top whilst Jacko's songs in full all die around the lower teens.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 30 April 2006 18:26 (twenty years ago)

Rather unfortunate Jacko/die around the lower teens turn of phrase there Dom...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 13:23 (twenty years ago)

Sixth week of Gnarls-mas, RHCP thankfully get sidelined into #2, just ahead of the Beatfreakz. Infernal stay top 5 ahead of Rihanna. Feed-rah are #12, Ullcooldge and J('l)Lo(yd Samuel) are #15. We Are Scientists are the precise point at which this chart stops being interesting at #21, this week's pointless Jacko re-release ('Remember The Time', if you're keeping count) is #22, Sigur Ros are counted as a re-entry at #24 (that'd be Mercury Music Prize form if they weren't, y'know, foreign), Goldfrapp warm up to play the festivals with the exact same set they played the festivals with last year at #26, T-Pain is probably on downloads alone at #30, Captain are kinda spiffy at #34, and Forward Russia don't deserve their punctuation at #40.

'Interesting fact' - Forward Russia's label is called Dance To The Radio. I want to grow an iron fist and punch myself in the face with it.

In the albums, Gnarls get toppled by Snow Patrol. Tool are #4 (I think they've charted higher than that previously, will check), and Pearl Jam are #5. THE ALBUM CHART SHOW BECKONS, CHAPS. JOE MACE IS READY TO BELIEVE YOU! Nina Simone, As Featured On That Ad For That Thing, is #20, and to celebrate the release of Scott Walker's 'The Drift', Mercury release The Best Of Scott Walker And The Walker Brothers - The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine. #24 for that.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 7 May 2006 17:37 (twenty years ago)

No, #4 is Tool's highest album chart placing.
Lateralis got to #16.
But I think it was the better record.
The Drift is now #16 on Amazon but it will be lucky to go Top 20 in the real chart next Sunday. Be nice if it did though.
It says something about the miserable standards of TOTP that the best thing on last night's programme (notwithstanding the "Crazy" rerun) was Daz Eurovision.
The best Brit Eurovision entry by a mile since "One Step Further."
No doubt it will finish about 14th.
Matt Busted reminded me of John Thomson singing Bob Seger B-sides.
Vittorio GreggsTheBakers was almost refreshing in this context.
I'm old enough to remember when TOTP was full of tremulous balladeers, back in the late sixties.
Though the likes of Solomon King and John Rowles bore less resemblance to Joe Pasquale.
The Rhianna record isn't as accidentally ingenious as the PCDs' version of "Tainted Love."
Her performance was one of slick studium.
So little personality she makes Rachel Stevens seem like Jennifer Jones in Duel In The Sun in comparison.
Orson are unlikely to have a second number one.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 8 May 2006 07:31 (twenty years ago)

The best Brit Eurovision entry by a mile since "One Step Further."

I liked "Come Back", though I guess I didn't expect you would like it Marcello!

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 8 May 2006 07:32 (twenty years ago)

"Come Back" ?

refresh me.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 8 May 2006 07:37 (twenty years ago)

Jessica Garlick, 2002. "Come back... (dramatic pause_.. if you love me".

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 8 May 2006 07:48 (twenty years ago)

I don't like Daz. His rapping is terrible. At least, it was on Popworld. I predict he and the UK will come thirteenth.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 8 May 2006 10:33 (twenty years ago)

Yep. Remember it now. Ta.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 8 May 2006 10:34 (twenty years ago)

man, i haven't knowingly heard gnarls. i am officially an old fucking fart :0(

the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Monday, 8 May 2006 10:36 (twenty years ago)

you have probably heard gnarls though, i thought i hadn't heard it and then i did last weekend and was like, oh so THAT'S it.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 8 May 2006 10:44 (twenty years ago)

what's it like?

on the hits the otehr day during their lame 'mash up' thing i saw an indie track played over something quite grimey.

the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Monday, 8 May 2006 10:47 (twenty years ago)

Drums go "boom tit"
Bass goes "dungg dung-dung dungg dung-dung"
singer close to scat style.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 8 May 2006 10:50 (twenty years ago)

'crazy'? it sounds like moby circa play, a bit more ok than that but in that vein. cee-lo's vocals are good, danger mouse's production boring.

i saw the top 50 r&b divas on the hits on saturday and it made me SO HAPPY.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 8 May 2006 11:03 (twenty years ago)

In a run exactly mirroring that of 'Respekt For Grandiosa' atop the Norwegian charts, 'Crazy' gets its seventh week in a row. This puts it level with '(Is This The Way To) Amarillo' and 'Believe'. If it's number one next week, it becomes the longest running chart-topper since 'Love Is All Around' twelve years ago.

Anyway, LL Cool J gets to taste the bitter, bitter smell of disappointment this week, 'Control Myself' rising from 15 to 2. Infernal overhaul Beatfreakz for #3, Rihanna still #5. Highest new entry is Neil Tennant & The Boys From The Pet Shop, whose 'I Am With A Person Who Is Stupid' is #8. The Kooks are now the longest running single in the top ten, y'know? They're #10.

C'MON DAZ is #13 - five higher than 'Touch My Fire' got, but exactly the same as 'Hold On To Our Love'. Hopefully it'll climb next week. C'MON DAZ. Boy Kill Boy are #17, and are also shite. Christina Milian is next week's big climber at #18, and Probably The Naffest Re-Release Campaign In The World puts 'In The Closet' at #20.

Guitaristic mediocrities The Upper Room are #22, one ahead of Busta Rhymes. One of these records will be climbing next week. It will not play guitars. Unlike Orson, who are #28. The effect of T-Pain's physical sales manages to keep him at exactly #30. The Delays' second single off their second album gets shafted at #35, four ahead of Graham Coxon, who in turn is one ahead of Hot & The Chips.

The Red Hot Chilli Peppers become the first act to get a double album to #1 in, like, a while. Dirty Pretty Things are #3. For no better reason than that she's possibly a bit evil, Hayley Westenra climbs from #38 to #20. Jose Gonzalez climbs from #40 to #27. John Fogerty is new at #32, and The Greatest Hits Of The Red Hot Chilli Peppers is #40, making them the first act to top and tail the chart since, oh, Jack Johnson, possibly. I would really like for there to be some kind of message involved with that, and for that message to be 'they're shit'.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 15 May 2006 00:42 (twenty years ago)

Missing the top 40 this week!

At #41, pop's second favourite football hooligan behind that dude from Frigid Vinegar, the Beautiful South have a hit with "Manchester". Starsailor were at one point one of the biggest bands in Britain at #47, and Sunblock ft Robin Beck is something I'm very thankful I'll never have to hear in my life ever again at #48.

Imogen Heap is that thing that they've been talking about in the broadsheet music sections (lol who the fuck would write for them) at #56, and Angels and Airwaves are at #78 with "The Adventure". It's either emo or Northern house, I can't exactly tell from the name. "Don't Cha" spends it's ninth month in the top 100.

Mobb Deep's album charts at #70. That worked.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 May 2006 00:51 (twenty years ago)

The Drift charted at #51, one ominous place below Tom Jones' Greatest Hits.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 15 May 2006 06:37 (twenty years ago)

Can 'Respekt For Grandiosa' be released in the UK? Can they have the hit without the pizza? Can they use it as the launching pad for Norwegian food to invade? I think that's a quite good thing.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 15 May 2006 06:41 (twenty years ago)

COlin Murray was running a phone in about the 'sexuality' of that Sunblock ft Robin Beck record. Then he played it. It has the sexuality of someone reading a book at home with the radio on at reduced volume. The book being the Davinci code.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 15 May 2006 06:50 (twenty years ago)

i didn't know about the drift existing until yesterday! i want it! the vinyl is BEAUTIFUL.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 15 May 2006 07:41 (twenty years ago)

Eight glorious weeks, and now Cee-Lo and Danger have Marti Pellow in their sights. Infernal are: a) quite good, aren't they?; b) up to #2; c) hopefully following this up with 'Keen On Disco'. I can't remember it being any good, but it's called 'Keen On Disco'. The other Xtina climbs to #4, Busta is #6. Sunblock and Robin Beck are #9, presumably (hopefully) on physical sales alone.

Orson's physicals can only get them to #11, which is fair enough, cos 'Bright Idea' is ming. More worrying is Sandi Thom at #15, because that's MP3 only. If this is what knocks 'Crazy' off #1 then I may cry. No such worries with Angels & Airwaves at #20.

Do you remember Michael Jackson's 'Jam'? No? #22 anyway, one ahead of PRML SCRM's MP3 fanbase. The digital world also puts The Feeling at #28. Towers of London are at #32 for some reason, Nerina Pallot's marginally preferable to Sandi Thom at #37, and Lady Sovereign may finally get that top 10 single as the remix of 9 to 5 - now entitled Nine2five - is #38 on downloads. Albeit taking second billing to The Ordinary Boys. Y'know, like when Fallacy was on that remix of that Craig David single.

Yeah.

And Eddie Thoneick & Kurd Maverick show that there's still a place for lower-order dance singles at the wrong end of the 40 by entering at #39, and for that we salute them.

In the albums, Red Hot Chilli Peppers are the first double album to go to #1 since the last one. Those girls you occasionally bump into at uni who quite like Brendan Benson propel the Raconteurs to #2, officially making them more popular than the greatest hits of Feeder. The Beautiful South continue to be the elephant in the album chart's room at #6 (is it wrong for me to quite like 'Manchester'? No, no it isn't). Neil Young 'does a Green Day' at #14, and Nerina Pallot's album is #27. This is kind of like when Sia had a hit, except nowhere near as good. Just the two Jack Johnson albums in the chart, but one of them is the Curious George OST at #29, which is a re-entry.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 21 May 2006 17:32 (twenty years ago)

And Daz Sampson climbed to #12, officially making him more popular than James Fox. Thank christ for that.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 21 May 2006 17:34 (twenty years ago)

Wes and Wes2 were debating where they'd heared "Punk rocker" before. Eventually, they decided they were thinking of "Marcedes Benz" from an advert (for MB?)

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 May 2006 06:20 (twenty years ago)

Thoughts on last night's TOTP:

Ordinary Boys "vs" Lady Sovereign - what would the 1977 equivalent have been? Paper Lace versus Ari Up?

The Sunblock record is rubbish but I must say Ms Beck has aged very well indeed. Her smile at the end provoked a warm tingle in me. I hope she has been able to make a good living these past 18 years.

Take That from 1994 looked embarrassed and furtive, like a bunch of National Service rookies given a broom and potato peeler and told to get on with it. Did I miss their Adidas T-shirt phase?

I am not feeling The Feeling. Sad Cafe were bad enough first time around.

A double helping of Gnarls. One of the many dull tracks on their album, and consequently a duller performance. I don't believe there's another single there, except maybe "Gone Daddy Gone."

The Beautiful South always seem to contrive to turn any errant rays of blue into puce.

Orson at number eleven - that follow-up obviously wasn't such a "Bright Idea."

Breaks Co-Op - yet more in-house BBC nepotism funded by us. A truly on-the-case TOTP would have had Lily Allen on instead.

Ronan Keating and Kate Rusby - is this death?

"Crazy" now the longest-running number one since "Love Is All Around" - and the first since "Two Tribes" which can justify so long a stay.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 22 May 2006 07:13 (twenty years ago)

when is christina milian going to be no 1?

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 22 May 2006 07:39 (twenty years ago)

Hah, Lex, Gnarls' number one reign ends next week, and you're gonna LOVE the song that does it.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 22 May 2006 09:22 (twenty years ago)

And how bad for self-esteem must "Nine2Five" be for Sov's self-esteem, in that it's now being marketed entirely as an Ordinary Boys track with a guest apperance from her. It's like "Brimful Of Asha" being credited to Fatboy Slim.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 22 May 2006 09:23 (twenty years ago)

'brimful of asha' should have been credited to fatboy slim. everything else cornershop did was abysmal and it was only good cos of the rmx.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 22 May 2006 09:26 (twenty years ago)

Racist.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 22 May 2006 09:29 (twenty years ago)

it was cornershop who were race traitors by making music which was so boring and white

i worked out at the weekend that - you know how sov's singles have gotten shitter and shitter since she first emerged? if you assume the same trajectory and fast forward five years you end up with lily allen.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 22 May 2006 09:31 (twenty years ago)

I remember when Cornershop did the singles review in the NME once, and guy with horrid curtains haircut whose name I have just forgotten claimed that Idlewild were "all that's wrong with white music".

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 22 May 2006 09:34 (twenty years ago)

"I See Shapes When I Argue" > "Brimful of Asha"

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 22 May 2006 09:34 (twenty years ago)

idlewild were ALSO all that's wrong with white music.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 22 May 2006 09:41 (twenty years ago)

No, that'd be Ordinary Boys incorporating at some minor level Lady Sovereign.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 22 May 2006 09:42 (twenty years ago)

ordinary boys ALSO all that's wrong with white music.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 22 May 2006 09:44 (twenty years ago)

it was cornershop who were race traitors by making music which was so boring and white

you actually think like this!

Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Monday, 22 May 2006 09:47 (twenty years ago)

it wasn't my fault!

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 22 May 2006 09:51 (twenty years ago)

Hah, Lex, Gnarls' number one reign ends next week, and you're gonna LOVE the song that does it.

Will this be the first Tooting Broadway number one?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 22 May 2006 10:04 (twenty years ago)

i think Ordinary Boys have inexplicably managed to improve '9 To 5' but it may just be that Preston has turned up the Suggs impression even more now so that it really does sound like Madness ft. Lady Sov thus good thing.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 22 May 2006 10:18 (twenty years ago)

But non-top ten showing = goodnight vienna?

Or is it that new fangled "early showing" for the download only version?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 May 2006 10:27 (twenty years ago)

S'download only.

Only a few thousand between Gnarls and Sandi in the midweeks, Daz is going top, Matt Willis is _your_ most succesful member of Busted going top 10 as well, and we're looking a high single figures/low teens position for Preston and His Ordinary Boys and their Lady Sovereigns.

Album charts are looking interesting though: 1-2 is RHCP and Snow Patrol, but Angels and Airwaves are #3, Zero 7 top 5, Pet Shop Boys only just scraping the top 10, and Boy Kill Boy are (thankfully) only managing the arse end of the teens.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 08:59 (twenty years ago)

Daz is going top *5

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:00 (twenty years ago)

Do you know if Lordi's getting a single release here Dom? First non-UK Eurovision winner to go to No.1 since Nicole maybe!

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:02 (twenty years ago)

It is getting a release, I saw this on't news yesterday.

Apparently, it was the biggest points score eurovision's ever had.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:05 (twenty years ago)

Due for release 6 June.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:05 (twenty years ago)

Also, I believe, it would be the first Eurovision winner of any country to go to number one in the UK since Nicole.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:06 (twenty years ago)

Also, this made me smile:

Customers who bought music by Lordi also bought music by these artists:

* Dragonforce
* Trivium
* Wednesday 13
* Crucified Barbara
* Turisas

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:06 (twenty years ago)

Wow, "Love Shine A Light" only got to #3? Where's the patriotic fervour, guys?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:07 (twenty years ago)

Boy Kill Boy are (thankfully) only managing the arse end of the teens.

funny, i didn't read about this on popbitch...

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:07 (twenty years ago)

spanishflea.mp3

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:09 (twenty years ago)

So, I guess Lordi were doing something 'polite' for Eurovision compared to their usual...

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:09 (twenty years ago)

Well, I suppose it won't hurt Lordi that were already signed to a UK label, which I can't imagine could be said of a Eurovision winner since... well, Katrina and the Waves.

Not a small label either, one that's got Ministry and Bruce Dickinson and Corrosion of Conformity and all those other bands that are hip with the Kidz these days.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:11 (twenty years ago)

Marcello is right - I always think Gina G won and of course she didn't.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:13 (twenty years ago)

Some of the song's Lordi will be battling with for that #1 spot with on that week:

Depeche Mode – John The Revelator / Lillian
Duncan James – Sooner Or Later
Echo & The Bunnymen - Scissors In The Sand
Embrace – World At Your Feet
Fightstar – Hazy Eyes
Hope of the States- Sing It Out
Mariah Carey – Say Something
Michael Jackson – Earth Song
Missy Elliott – 123
Nelly Furtado – Maneater
Nickleback- Savin' Me
Jim Noir – Eanie Meanie
Pussycat Dolls - Buttons
The Research – The Hard Times
The Streets – Never Went To Church
Sugababes – Follow Me Home
Tonedef Allstars - Who Do You Think You Are Kidding Jurgen Klinsmann

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:16 (twenty years ago)

Embrace possibly the only one in that list they need to worry about.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:18 (twenty years ago)

Hmm, Lordi vs Echo and the Bunnymen FITE!

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:18 (twenty years ago)

xpost that Embrace song is so 'not going top 40 on downloads' followed by not going top ten. (soz Nick)

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:19 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Embrace are the only ones who look like legit #1 contenders there, _maybe_ Nelly if the radio gets solidly behind her but I can't see it. Embrace vs Lordi is just Gary Jules vs The Darkness part 2, really.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:20 (twenty years ago)

it'll be
1. Lordi, 2. Embrace, 3. The Streets
that week i reckon

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:23 (twenty years ago)

Lordi embrace the streets?

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:40 (twenty years ago)

new missy elliott?! i didn't know about that! why are people not talking about her?

that sugababes ballad is absolutely gorgeous.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:52 (twenty years ago)

Duncan James was 'giving away' autog copies of his single on GMTV's phone in competition. As consolation prises for not winning the top prize: the car.

Imagine the phone call...

GMTV: "Hello, is that Mrs zxxx"
Zxxx: "Yeah?"
GMTV: "You know the phonein comp you entered yesterday?"
...

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:58 (twenty years ago)

Things to note:

1) Embrace, being the official England song, will be inescapable come release date (N.B. I haven't heard it yet, but it's B-List at Radio 1)

2) Of those songs, only two are on the A-List at Radio 1, those being 'Maneater' and 'Never Went To Church'. Of those two, 'Maneater' is fantastic if a bit too long for its own good, and 'Never Went To Church' isn't much more than a knock-off of 'Dry Your Eyes' with a video that one suspects is perhaps meant to be taken seriously, but which is so horrendously DO YOU SEE? that surely it won't be... surely...

3) If - IF - Lordi go number one, it'll not only be the first Eurovision-winning number one since Nicole, but also the first Eurovision winner to go top 40 since Charlotte Nilsson in 1999. And that got to #20. I really just can't see it happening.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 10:00 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and:

4) That feller from Orson really needs to stop wearing his hat like that.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 10:02 (twenty years ago)

"Never Went To Church" is being released too early as well, they'd do a lot better to hold it back until the third/fourth week of the world cup if they really want a DYE sequel.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 10:02 (twenty years ago)

"Never went to church" is just bad bad bad.

Lordi certainly will make the chart. Odds on for number one I'd have thought.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 10:07 (twenty years ago)

So, what was the last metal song to make number one?

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 10:08 (twenty years ago)

"Bring Me To Life"

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 10:10 (twenty years ago)

Eh, so it was. [raises devil's horns]

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 10:11 (twenty years ago)

If I'm allowed to pipe in from the states...
Gina G = last Eurovision entrant (I believe) USA could be arsed to care about (top 10 pop single no less!). Possibly the last one even released here.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 19:56 (twenty years ago)

What other eurovision tunes have perforated the US consciousness then? I'm assuming "Waterloo" and "Volare" are known, but is there any love for France Gall over there? Bucks Fizz? Sir Cliff?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:02 (twenty years ago)

the Embrace song isn't actually as bad as i thought it was going to be. this is largely because it's so forgettable compared to 'three lions' etc. as the official theme always is. goddam how i hate his voice tho.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:05 (twenty years ago)

No. No. And yeah, Cliff's had some hits - "We Don't Talk Anymore," the duet with ON-J - but only a few. "Eres Tu" was a hit in '72, I think. Paul Mauriat hit with a cover of "Love Is Blue." Yes, "Waterloo" and "Volare" were big here, too.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:08 (twenty years ago)

the embrace tune is horrific and even tho you say it "isn't actually that bad" it is that bad. he has the worst voice of any singer ever. they are so rubbish i feel sick. his voice manages to sound shit and smug at the same time.

danny invincible (michael w.), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:24 (twenty years ago)

breaks co-op is the worst tune since uncle kracker

danny invincible (michael w.), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:28 (twenty years ago)

the embrace tune is horrific and even tho you say it "isn't actually that bad" it is that bad. he has the worst voice of any singer ever. they are so rubbish i feel sick. his voice manages to sound shit and smug at the same time.

my point is just that the song being of the nature it is, it's not something that can be moronically yelled out loud by drunken apes the same way 'Three Lions' or even 'World In Motion' can be. i can only just remember the chorus to 'How Does It Feel To Be On Top Of The World' and that's it. Embrace will probably do a bit better than McCulloch and co. but the song is unlikely to be that well remembered or indeed played much around Euro 2008 time let alone the next World Cup.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:41 (twenty years ago)

What we need right now is a rerelease of "On The Ball".

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:45 (twenty years ago)

xpost. yebbut what's the point of a world-cup song if it can't be yelled moronically by the drunks?

danny invincible (michael w.), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:48 (twenty years ago)

Are we getting a Burial remix of "Sven Sven Sven" by Bell and Spurling then?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 25 May 2006 06:57 (twenty years ago)

Next week, the football songs will begin to poke their heads over the parapet. But for now, it's nine weeks for Gnarls. That Dreadful Sandi Thom Thing is #2, That Possibly Slightly Worse But Thinking About It Probably Not Primal Scream Thing is #5, thus becoming their biggest hit ever.

Ever.

The Ordinary Boys get Lady Sovereign into the top ten at #6 (GORDON BROWN IS THE MAN IN THE KNOW), ahead of the surprisingly quite good Matt From Busted at #7. Bad Luck, Daz is #8, making him the first UK Eurovision entry to go top ten since Precious in 1999. The Feeling secure their upper-half of the bill slot at V by getting to #10.

Nerina Pallot is mercifully stopped at #14, with Keane being the highest download-only entry at #15. A brief glance down the release schedule suggests that there may very well be worse things that could knock 'Crazy' off #1. Which is a little worrying. Pink, for instance, is #19.

Robbie Williams is #22, though I've no idea whether or not that's downloads or what exactly. The Futureheads return more or less exactly where they left off - #24 - and the Jacko re-release campaign hits a new low of #27, because someone appears not to have realised that there is nobody that really ever needs to hear 'Heal The World' ever again. Ever. Jack Johnson's impact on the singles market remains thankfully minimal at #30. Taking Back Sunday are #36 on combined stuff, and there's download only entries for Oakenfold (#37) and The Darkness (#39). Little Man Tate round things off at #40, which gives rise to a question in my mind:

Inside Man
Flightplan
Panic Room
The Dangerous Lives Of Altar Boys
Contact
Sommersby
The Silence Of The Lambs
The Accused

Jodie Foster's filmography or emo all-dayer at a pub in Solihull?

in The Albums, the Peppers are still on top. Zero 7 can make a claim to be more popular than the Pet Shop Boys - they're #4, Neil & Chris are #5, and Angels & Airwaves are #6. For no plausible reason, Boy Kill Boy (or is it boykillboy? That would seem more accurately twatty) are #16. The Number One Hits Of The Bee Gees are #29, and Hot Chip is well cool like at #34.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 29 May 2006 09:33 (twenty years ago)

Williams is combined sales, apparently he didn't want to do any publicity for the release of the single (because he was having more fun hanging out with David Gray and John Barnes), so he, um, didn't.

Boykillboy are spectacularly useless. Full charts aren't out yet, for some reason, or are the usual venues not posting them?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 May 2006 11:17 (twenty years ago)

Sandi frigging Thom no1 in midweeks. But only by 31 copies

Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:19 (twenty years ago)

The presence of Stan Boardman at #27 in the midweeks is a cause for major concern. W, T, and indeed, F?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 09:35 (twenty years ago)

Ah yes, footy bally.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 09:35 (twenty years ago)

That Possibly Slightly Worse But Thinking About It Probably Not Primal Scream Thing is #5, thus becoming their biggest hit ever.

but will it be best-selling?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 10:04 (twenty years ago)

The presence of Stan Boardman at #27 in the midweeks is a cause for major concern. W, T, and indeed, F?

oh god not 'The Fokker Song (Misprint)' or somehing equally hilarious please

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 10:05 (twenty years ago)

i finally heard 'crazy'!!!!!

meh.

Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 10:10 (twenty years ago)

"Stan's World Cup Song." A dance mix exists.

No doubt James Whale plays it on Talk Sport nightly.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 10:10 (twenty years ago)

If Sandi Thom - or whoever else, this week - gets to #1, it's the fault of Gnarls Barkley's record co. for deleting "Crazy." Idiots. There simply isn't going to be another big big hit off St. Elsewhere - I mean, come on now. Really.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:52 (twenty years ago)

I keep wondering if the Sandi Thom "EVIL FAKE MANUFCATURED POP STAR" scandal is worthy of a thread. I don't think it is.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:02 (twenty years ago)

Sandi Thom's story is fake? (Sorry, all I know about her is what James Masterton's written...)

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:07 (twenty years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,1786542,00.html

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:20 (twenty years ago)

There's a thread already about her (I know, because...)

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:12 (twenty years ago)

And so manufactured pop rules the charts once more - the Fabulous Barkley Boys' run ends at the hands of the Tooting Hermit. On a similar-ish note, Infernal get dislodged from the top 3 (after eight weeks) by Keane. Pink climbs to #5. Highest 'proper' (IN EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD) new entry sees Ronan Keating give Kate Rusby her first appearance in the top 40 solely out of the kindness of his heart. He will presumably donate all the credibility he accrues to charity, or something. 'Faster Kill Pussycat''s physical sales send it spinning all the way to #7 - and who's that lurking at #8 on downloads alone? Why, I do believe it's Nelly Furtado... hmm...

Tony Christie's 'Is This The Way To The World Cup' and Stan Boardman's 'Stan's World Cup Song' are #11 and #19 respectively. Is it worth me doing the whole 'listen again' thing to see whether JK & Joel referred to Boardman as a 'legend'? No, no it isn't. I might have to hear his bloody song.

LeAnn Rimes is #22 - I think that's combined dls and physicals - but a rather large surprise might be the performance of The Automatic's 'Monster', slyly positioning itself as the summer's big shouty indie disco menace at #23 on downloads alone. This week's episode of "Dear God, Michael Jackson really went to shit towards the end, didn't he?" sees 'You Are Not Alone' at #30.

'Father and Daughter' is Paul Simon's first top 40 hit in 16 years at #31. Loleatta Holloway is #37, Embrace's tilt at next week's #1 begins at the not-entirely-inauspicious position of #38 for downloads (bearing in mind the physical sales will probably be higher than anything else next week), and a Corinne Bailey Rae single that I could have sworn was out the other week is #40.

In the al-ba-ba-bums, Orson are #1. How? Nina Simone's third Very Best Of (why does no-one ever sue over these things?) is her second top ten album (the first being, er, her first Very Best Of, 12 years ago). The Futureheads are a) #12 b) not quite as good as they used to be, AFI are this week's token surprise US punk band in the top 20 at #16, and the Rolling Stones' 'Forty Licks' is #23 for some reason.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 4 June 2006 17:20 (twenty years ago)

Orson are Britain's new favourite band! FACT.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 4 June 2006 17:31 (twenty years ago)

Stan Boardman?

(Soz, Will, only heared JK&J's rundown, not the bit where they played it,ornot.)

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 5 June 2006 06:43 (twenty years ago)

Lordi are #59. Downloads? It's still shit anyway.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 5 June 2006 07:22 (twenty years ago)

Forty Licks is a tenner in the HMV sale innit.

I have the feeling Lordi may have missed the boat somewhat. The record should have been out and ready to go the Monday after Eurovision; otherwise the momentum gets lost. Suspect Nelly might now nab the number one ahead of them, if Embrace don't.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 5 June 2006 07:28 (twenty years ago)

if embrace beat nelly furtado to number one i might consider putting a bomb in a world cup football stadium.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 5 June 2006 07:40 (twenty years ago)

Embrace? Top ten, if they're lucky.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 5 June 2006 08:01 (twenty years ago)

Oh, the 'japanese' CD box "The London Singles" was £16 the other week. None of that horrible "anything after Undercover", and more of the good stuff "before Brown Sugar, inclusive"...

Oddly, facsimile sleeves for all four (unexciting) LP sleeve inners, even though they are on 3 actual CDs.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 5 June 2006 08:06 (twenty years ago)

Wishy Washy Pub Rocker off the top after a week, as Maneater stomps to the #1 slot, making El Nell the first Canadian chart topper since... I forget. Deep Blue Something? Embrace's triumphal march halts at #3 (for this week, anyhow), one slot ahead of The Automatic. Football also somehow launches Tony Christie's horrific scansion to #8, Not Another Three Lions Re-Release to #10, Crazy Frog to #10, Tonedef Allstars (I'm not asking because I don't want to know) to #13, Stan Boardman to #15, Trinidad & Tobago Tartan Army's 'Scotland Scotland Jason Scotland' (thinking about it, that might be even worse) to #30 and Talksport Allstars to #37. If either of those last two are on downloads alone I may hurt something. Still, perhaps this is what Sweden is like around Melodifestivalen time. Or not.

Oh, and: Morrissey apparently had a single out, and now it's #14, Depeche Mode are #18, The Streets #20 (it'd be much better without that chorus, wouldn't it? And the intro, for that matter), Lordi become the first forrin Eurovision act to chart since 1999 at #25, Mariah Carey is yr #27 (poss. download only), then three other download-only singles - Sugababes #32, Duncan James #34, Hope Of The States #39. This week's Jacko re-release is JACKO SHOUTS AT TREES, and is #34. Ah-ah-AHHHH etc.

ALBUMS, and for the first time in yonks the top 5 is comprised ENTIRELY of new entries! Yes, your new number one is Sandi Thom's Boys Are Stupid, Throw Rocks At Them, just ahead of The Feeling's Ultimate Survival Guide: Jangle, Ronan Keating's Celebrate Your Mother, Paul Simon's Hello Grammy Voters, and Primal Scream's Yeahchie Honneh Whoo-Shuh Naowwwww. LeAnn Rimes is #15 by default, The Very Best Of Manfred Mann is #24, The Complete Greatest Hits Of The Eagles is #28, and News & Tributes falls from #12 to #40 in its second week. I still dunno what to make of it, really...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 11 June 2006 17:22 (twenty years ago)

...making El Nell the first Canadian chart topper since... I forget. Deep Blue Something?

Bryan Adams (& Chicane) or "My Heart Will Go On"?

And actually, the Mariah, Sugababes, Duncan James and Hope of the States are all full CD releases. Sugababes at #32 - I couldn't believe it myself - shockingly low.

Ronan Keating's Celebrate Your Mother
I was briefly excited when I thought he'd stopped covering boring country songs and started on 80's matchbox b-line disaster.

danzig (danzig), Sunday, 11 June 2006 18:22 (twenty years ago)

Sugababes weren't download only, they only got to number 101 last week on downloads.

Bugger, xpost.

Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Sunday, 11 June 2006 18:25 (twenty years ago)

making El Nell the first Canadian chart topper since... I forget. Deep Blue Something?

You forgot Celine Dion.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 12 June 2006 06:18 (twenty years ago)

Nelly really shouldn't sing live, should she?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 12 June 2006 06:18 (twenty years ago)

has Avril never had a UK no 1?! for some reason I am surprised.

Hurrah Nelly.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 12 June 2006 07:18 (twenty years ago)

what is the sugababes single?

Seriously, Try Punching This Guy in the Face and See What Happens (Enrique), Monday, 12 June 2006 07:37 (twenty years ago)

'follow me home' - gorgeous ballad in the vein of the ballads off three

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 12 June 2006 07:44 (twenty years ago)

why don't the chart publishers put a sign next to the songs that are 'downloads only'?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 12 June 2006 07:47 (twenty years ago)

is 'ace reject' a single yet?

Seriously, Try Punching This Guy in the Face and See What Happens (Enrique), Monday, 12 June 2006 08:33 (twenty years ago)

no and it probably won't be now. 'bruised' is the best song on the album though!

while i think that there has only been one actively awful sugababes single ever ('shape'), and they are mistresses of the lead single choice, their decisions re follow-ups have been less good.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 12 June 2006 08:45 (twenty years ago)

Bring back the good old days of only one single off an album, or no singles on the album!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 12 June 2006 08:47 (twenty years ago)

NO ALBUMS

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 12 June 2006 08:48 (twenty years ago)

Ivor Novello to thread.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 12 June 2006 08:55 (twenty years ago)

HI DERE

IVORNOVELLO (mark grout), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 06:56 (twenty years ago)

Any theories as to the thuddingly low placings of Streets, Mariah, Sugababes, our UK friends? (That's not to mention Lordi, even, which I thought some were touting along with Streets as a potential #1.) This Yank chartwatcher is very curious...

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:25 (twenty years ago)

I saw Wreckless Eric's world cup single in HMV.

What's the midweeks on that one?

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:27 (twenty years ago)

I assumed Streets, Mariah, Sugababes and Lordi were all downloads-only. If not, that's very odd. World Cup distraction I suppose.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Acc. to James Masterton (y'know, the UK Fred Bronson, who writes chart commentary for Yahoo Music), all 4 are physical singles.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:32 (twenty years ago)

Some interesting midweeks. Nelly's #1 reign could be cut to one week by... Bon Jovi? Sweet christ alordy. Shakira to go top 5, the fourth(?) rerelease of "Three Lions" is top 10. Top 20s for Danii, Fratelliis, Sham 69 ft Autism Boy, and Wacky Jacky. Top 30: Solu Music ft Kimblee (who?), T.I. And The US/UK Chart Differences, and a download only entry for BEP. Divine Comedy are top 40! Care.

Album charts OMG DIXIE CHICKS HAVING A TOP 5 ALBUM WTF WTF LOL. Busta may be joining them, assuming he's not responsible for any more depths in the rest of the week.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:40 (twenty years ago)

Dom, assuming you meant re: Busta, "assuming he's not responsible for any more DEATHS in the rest of the week"? Or am I totally not getting you here?

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:42 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, this hay fever has reduced my typing skills to zero.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Just double-checking. I mean, you Brits often have a different way of saying things, so I just wanted to make sure...

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 15:04 (twenty years ago)

according to Music Week, England's game on Saturday clashed with peak sales time for singles so this might explain the poor performance of Streets, Mariah, Sugababes and Lordi (altho not any World Cup related singles).

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 15:35 (twenty years ago)

It was indeed pretty quiet in HMV Oxford Circus on Saturday afternoon (I was happy to note - i.e. hassle free browsing and listening possible)

zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 15:58 (twenty years ago)

The poor performance of Mariah can probably be attributed to the fact that this is her fifth single release from Emancipation of Mimi, (sixth not including the double a-side). It ain't doing too well in the States either.

For the Sugababes, "Follow Me Home" is the 4th single from Taller in More Ways, and frankly it just isn't nowhere near as great as "Push the button" or "Red Dress", and as far sugaballads go, it isn't up there with "Run For Cover" or "Too Lost In You". Also, Mutya fans probably didn't buy it because ex-babe Mutya wasn't too happy about its release as it was written for her daughter.

And as for, "Never Went To Church", England hasn't been kicked out off the finals yet, so there's no need to adopt a loser ballad as a national anthem a la "Stop crying your heart out".

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but these songs have been available to download as album tracks for months now before the single release date - so the phenomenon of huge chart rises are restricted to the first singles off albums, like "Maneater" "SOS" etc.

danzig (danzig), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 16:05 (twenty years ago)

Well, say "Never went to church" for example. Imagine it's one hot track (not the mimsy "one more like the last biggie")...

Now, it's been available for d/l for a while, but it only registers in the chart the week before single release.

And then it shoots up into the top ten.

Biggest climber ever.


Anyway, it seems the days of "Straight in at number one" being a rare event are back!

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 16:25 (twenty years ago)

The under-performance of Lordi I am attributing to BMG's absurd decision to prioritise Sandi Thom in terms of marketing and promotion. I mean, which act is likelier to yield greater long-term success internationally?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 06:42 (twenty years ago)

That's a tough one.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 07:08 (twenty years ago)

Ah but Marcello, as much as you might not like it how do you think Gwar say (as a Lordi analogue) compare to some dreck-oid like KT Tunstall (a Sandie Thom analogue, tho still slightly better than Thom I would say)? Bland-out big voiced women are big bucks, translate well to Radio 1 and 2, and internationally can hit the states with ease (that American twang in their throats y'see). I suspect commercially they have made the right decision...

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:32 (twenty years ago)

Lordi are far more likely to be bigger internationally.

ST is merely the last but one (see: Allen, Lily) in a series of pseudo-autonomous conveyor-belt floozies whose sole purpose is to reactivate the fading libidos of middle-aged male record company executives and radio programme controllers. The album will be going for four quid in MVE in less than a month. She is not a star and will never be a star.

Start investing in real and genuinely new and original musicians and perhaps record companies might still be in business in five years' time.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 15 June 2006 06:20 (twenty years ago)

it's the fact that right now, acts with a big stamp saying "AUTONOMOUS" on their foreheads are guaranteed sellers which pisses me off most - it's as if the really obvious fact that it doesn't matter who writes the songs has been completely overturned in favour of r*ckist dogma not just in the minds of critics and record company execs, but in the minds of joe public, the man in the street blah blah blah.

i was wondering why the stream of amazing and completely plastic teenpop coming out of america had dried up in the uk - this is a conveyor belt which gave us backstreet boys, britney, xtina, jennifer paige, mandy moore, fantastic one-hit wonders throughout the years. and it's still happening there, albeit with an autonomy so pseud that even when it's genuine, there's still a plastic sheen: ashlee simpson, lindsay lohan, hilarity duff, the new paris hilton single. but they could never succeed in the uk in 2006! because these girls are "fake" "sluts" in the minds of the idiot british public and therefore unacceptable popstars.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 15 June 2006 07:20 (twenty years ago)

how dare they call paris hilton a slut!

Seriously, Try Punching This Guy in the Face and See What Happens (Enrique), Thursday, 15 June 2006 07:22 (twenty years ago)

There were commentators in 1986 who thought that Hollywood Beyond, Belouis Some and Red Box were keeping the New Pop banner flying in full splendour.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 15 June 2006 07:26 (twenty years ago)

have you heard the new paris single, henry? it's really beautiful! she doesn't even try to hit notes or engage with the beat or the fact that she is singing a pop song, but it's gorgeous nonetheless.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 15 June 2006 07:27 (twenty years ago)

Except it isn't.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 15 June 2006 07:30 (twenty years ago)

What happened to the one-hit wonders?

They had one hit!

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 15 June 2006 07:31 (twenty years ago)

have you heard the new paris single, henry?

no, but i don't need to cos it's the worst thing since john wayne covered 'i bet that you look good on the dancefloor' innit *winky*.

Seriously, Try Punching This Guy in the Face and See What Happens (Enrique), Thursday, 15 June 2006 07:48 (twenty years ago)

It's certainly on a par with the Sugababes' cover of IBTYLGOTD...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 15 June 2006 07:59 (twenty years ago)

And so after a brief threat from Doctor Denim 'Maneater' gets a second week of mooning at Sandi Thom. Yr highest new entry is Shakira at #3, which isn't entirely surprising given that it's stomping a mudhole in more or less every other chart on the face of the earth right now. Jon Bon Ding Dong and chums wind up at #5, behind The Automatic, who are holding #4 surprisingly comfortably. 'World At Your Feet (Scuffed It Wide From Five Yards)' falls to #8 ahead of 'Three Lions', which is also #30 in Germany, fact fans. Sham 69's 'That Torsten Frings Is A Fackin' Mahppit' gets them their first hit since 1979 at #10.

Armand Van Helden has re-released 'My My My' and it has gone to #12 and that made him happy. Solu Music ft. Kimblee get themselves some obscurity at #18, as The Fratellis portend a backlash against something-or-other at #19. Dannii Minogue is #20, which is nice for her, probably.

Look! Look! #22 - TI! It's 'Why You Wanna', which has fuck-all on 'What You Know', but still, y'know. Apparently his TV ad involves Westwood barking. I haven't seen it. Possibly the biggest shock of the week involves a minor resurgence in the Jacko reissues campaign, getting to #26 this week. The most shocking thing is that the song in question is 'They Don't Care About Us', which is utter guff. At least 'Earth Song' has that screaming bit, which is kind of fun in a slow-motion-Matrix-dancing-to-'Mystical Machine Gun' manner (no, I'm not going to demonstrate). The Black Eyed Peas shit on Sergio Mendes at #29, and Lostprophets enter on downloads alone at #39.

Keane's Insert Unnecessarily Portentous Album Title Here is #1. That Nelly Furtado album is a bit of a disappointment at number 5, while the Dixie Chicks' midweek promise falls apart, presumably at the hands of THE KIDS going to WOOLWORTHS at the WEEKEND and buying THE COMPLETE GREATEST HITS OF THE EAGLES instead, and they end up at #12. Paul Weller apparently has an album out and it's #17. Busta Rhymes gets his first UK top 20 album at #19 (previous best - #34, nine years ago), ahead of The Definitively Very Best Ever More Greatest Hits Collections of Level 42 (#20), The Stranglers (#28), Dusty Springfield (#31) and, um, The Lightning Seeds (#34). Yes, kids, a rapper is more popular than 'The Chinese Way' and 'Sugar Coated Iceberg'. There's a turn-up for the books, eh?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 18 June 2006 17:39 (twenty years ago)

Hello and welcome to the official Ronaldihno tripping over the ball edition of the top 40. Canada-mania reigns over the country for a second week, as Nelly "Sex" Furtado keeps her heels on Sandi "4REAL" Thom's next two charts running.

"Hips Don't Lie" is your number three, which gives Wyclef his first top 10 appearance for over five years. That's obviously what we're all buying it for, right? And Bon Jovi, who were about 200 copies off #1 midweek, instead chart down at #5. For those keeping count, that's the 19th top 10 single of their career to date.

Autism/money grabbing punk casualty crossover a-go-go at #10, as Sham 69 and The "Special Assembly" (as in what you'd have at the start of every day at a special school?) brings the "People's Anthem" to the top 10. Armand Van Helden is back without anyone telling me at #12, and Solu Music Ft Kimblee isn't the kind of world music they play at your local vegan restaurant, but rather some of that good ol' Hed Kandi tunage that the kids love these days. Fratellis are INDIE INDIE INDIE OY at #19, one place of Dannii Minogue Hates Richard Madeley and Blacks at #20.

TI is three places below the Fratellis at #22 with "Why You Wanna", a chart statistic I'm sure we'll see repeated in the States within a few weeks. Durp-de-durp Michael Jackson #26 ta-teedla-e-tum, and download only fun at #29 for the Black to the Eyed to the Peas, with some old Brazillian dude. Lostprophets at #39 with what I assume is also downloads only. If not, they wanna sack their street team.

Fun fact: behind "stylus" and "sex songs", the third most popular search term to get to StylusMagazine.com was "keane under the iron sea review", and fittingly it brings all manner of excitement and hummable choruses to the #1 spot. Nelly Furtado gets her knickers off at #5, and the Dixie Chicks are #12, making it the first top 20 country album of original material in the UK since... I want to say "In Pieces" by Garth 12 years ago. Any advance?

Paul Weller isn't as popular as he used to be at #17, Busta Rhymes shot a bodyguard in Reno just to watch him die at #19, and LEVEL 42 THE DEFINITIVE COLLECTION IS YOUR NUMBER TWENTY ALBUM. Looking back it's so bizarre, it runs in the family...

The Very Best of the Stranglers is the perfect gift for fathers day at #28, "At Her Very Best" by Dusty Springfield isn't at #31, and Ian Broudie milks the final teat of the Lightning Seeds at #33. 62 weeks in the top 40 for the Kaiser Chiefs now. Sweet christ.

lol xp

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 18 June 2006 17:48 (twenty years ago)

ST is merely the last but one (see: Allen, Lily) in a series of pseudo-autonomous conveyor-belt floozies whose sole purpose is to reactivate the fading libidos of middle-aged male record company executives and radio programme controllers.

the sunday herald ran its monthly "freSH" supplement for teenagers today (think the funday times but with earnest polemic instead of cartoons) and ms allen's new mewlings (which i personally quite like) were up for review. VER KIDS - four of the little sods - universally panned her; one said she was a poor sandi thom copyist. this made me chuckle.

VER KIDS also loved the new muse single. go figure: compared to everything else muse have ever done, it's jizz.

but yes, once she sallies forth from the rarefied protective atmosphere of the blogosphere/OMM i predict the shortest of short careers for keithette.

sandi thom, i fear, might have a little longevity left.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 18 June 2006 17:59 (twenty years ago)

I agree that fake-tarts are EXACTLY what pop is all about...(and when the music is good, what could be better in a pop sense?) and that therefore these semi-autonomous OMM walking wank-fantasies are an utterly dulling, de-intensifying influence, with their "real" instruments and co-writing credits... Still the rockist production mode for MOR-ish pop appears to be gaining strength. And obv not just for women singers...

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Sunday, 18 June 2006 18:14 (twenty years ago)

Dannii Minogue is #20, which is nice for her, probably.

Crying shame, this is her best single since....er, the last one.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Sunday, 18 June 2006 19:20 (twenty years ago)

I was surprisingly rather impressed by Muse on TOTP last night. They seem to have decided to become properly preposterous, which I think is the right move - they definitely suit camp, a lot more than the one-horse Darkness. Good album too.

Guillemots proved to be another of those bands who only really make sense once they're on TOTP/in the charts. Rose to the occasion rather splendidly I thought. Also the first time Sun Ra's ever appeared on the programme...

Didn't mind the Fratellis. Didn't mind Ne-Yo either. And "From Paris To Berlin" is, let's face it, a classic single and Genuine Hit.

Still, just as I fear I'm turning into a soft lad, there were Shakira and Wyclef, and then Ray Lamontaigne, to remind me reassuringly of my limitations when it comes to tolerance.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 19 June 2006 06:47 (twenty years ago)

Tolerance? You want to know about Tolerance?

In the car, we were listening to part of teh chart rundown, and they played the Stan Boardman single. (That's its title, btw).

Basically, imagine a song based around "She'll be coming round the mountain" with comedy lyrics. I know they're comedy as Stan laffs at the end of some of them. And then goes into bits that you may have heard from "I am the music man". At which point the kids got all nostalgic for various holiday clubs and sang along. And went into Nana's singing "Saying I YI Yipee, the gerrrmans bombed wor chippy" and so on.

Tolerance, see?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 19 June 2006 07:27 (twenty years ago)

I am familiar with the record.

Speaking of "I Am The Music Man," someone reissue the Rusty Goffe original. Christmas number one staring you in the face innit.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 19 June 2006 07:33 (twenty years ago)

'de-intensifying'

what is this, 2004?

Seriously, Try Punching This Guy in the Face and See What Happens (Enrique), Monday, 19 June 2006 08:02 (twenty years ago)

presumably at the hands of THE KIDS going to WOOLWORTHS at the WEEKEND and buying THE COMPLETE GREATEST HITS OF THE EAGLES instead

Father's Day yesterday innit (which also explains Paul Simon's second week at #4).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 19 June 2006 08:09 (twenty years ago)

I got a bottle of Pimms. Better than the Eagles or Paul Simon.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 19 June 2006 08:36 (twenty years ago)

Was the bottle of Pimms produced by Eno, though?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 19 June 2006 08:37 (twenty years ago)

Still better than the Eagles. Paul Simon though, is better than a bottle of Pimms produced by Eno.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 19 June 2006 08:47 (twenty years ago)

I meant the smelling salts, not the producer.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 19 June 2006 09:14 (twenty years ago)

Ah right. Both are not as good as...

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 19 June 2006 09:15 (twenty years ago)

Julie Andrews?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 19 June 2006 09:28 (twenty years ago)

Dumb question from an American: I've been listening to the UK top 40 and there are often Michael Jackson songs up there...was his greatest hits album rereleased in the UK? Or is he charting here to and am I just not noticing it?

musically (musically), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:41 (twenty years ago)

Sony UK is reissuing all of his singles considered to have "classic" videos on Dualdiscs, something like 20 in all. The attempt was to make this as big as 2005's Elvis reissues. They've failed miserably; not a one has made the top 10. Record companies are dumb, ha ha.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:46 (twenty years ago)

Ah, well I'm not surprised that crap songs like "They Don't Care About Us" aren't making huge dents in the charts. A little surprised that his more classic songs didn't do better, but then again, doesn't everyone own Thriller by now?

musically (musically), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 18:08 (twenty years ago)

exactly.

I was sort of tempted by "Black or White" but then I remembered the rub long video (the middle bit is fine, the masturbating in a back alley metaphor at the end... no)

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 07:34 (twenty years ago)

Only once as a DJ have I ever played "Black And White" and that was at the time of its original release. Stupidly I played the album version and forgot about that idiotic dad-I-wanna-watch-the-telly "interlude" which begins it; had to whip it off after about 15 seconds.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 07:39 (twenty years ago)

'scream' was good.

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 07:59 (twenty years ago)

Toni Basil still number one in the midweeks. Muse at 2, Lostprophets 6, Zutons 7, Black Eyed Peas/Sergio Mendes 8.

Fatboy Slim, incredibly, is number 2 in the midweek albums. Automatic at 3.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 08:07 (twenty years ago)

I think Jacko's legal difficulties have hit him harder amongst casual pop fans than the record co would like to admit.

Half loaf, half pompadour (noodle vague), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 08:11 (twenty years ago)

Ah, fair enough, the Fatboy Slim one is a greatest hits. I might get that.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 08:15 (twenty years ago)

Now here's a thing. From James Masterton's chart commentary..

(...) 'Crazy' which would actually have charted at around Number 7 this week, but for the fact that it is now two weeks since the deletion of the physical single and its remaining sales are no longer eligible for the chart listings.

What nonsense is this?

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 15:45 (twenty years ago)

Rubbish new chart rule, added when they started counting prerelease downloads the other month.

Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 16:15 (twenty years ago)

Hello and welcome to The Official Frank Lampard Is Over-Rated Top 40.

Nelly Furtado and her massive dog make it a month at number one, with Shakira's bad dress-sense at #2 and Freedull For Tooting at #3.

New entries? We got new entries. Muse's cover of Britney's "Do Somethin'" gives them their biggest hit to date at #4, and That One Hot Chick from That Rubbish Scouseadelica Band is at #9 with "Valerie".

Pussycat Dolls tribute to lovable pantomine character Buttons is at #11, and the Kooks (who are also at #26 with "Naive", the longest run of any song on the current top 40) are at #14. Heavens preserve us. All-American Rejects DESTROY any idea that they're a one-hit wonder with the chart-devouring "Dirty Little Secret" at #18, and Knee-Yow is sexy and loving at #21, a place in front of... "Stranger In Moscow". That was one song the kids were crying out for a rerelease of.

Lupe Fiasco is kicking and pushing with all his might at #27, and the Young Knives are just fucking horrid at #38. The Editors are #39th. Big up yourselves.

Albums? Keane excite at #1, Fatboy Slim decomposes at #2, The Automatic are All RAG Week, All The Time at #3. Shakira shakes her thang at #14, Danii Minogue don't care about black people at #17, and a Madonna live album is at #18. Woop.

Sergio Mendes has sportswear and the BEP to give him his first ever top 40 album at #27, I have no idea whatsoever "Triniti" is at #32, and THE BEST OF GEORGE BENSON is at #36. G'n'R's greatest hits re-enters at #40 for no particular reason. 63 weeks on the top 40 now for "Employment".

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 25 June 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

"Triniti" are three irish girls/women sighing treatments of Sting and Seal classics over pan pipes and all that.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 26 June 2006 07:33 (nineteen years ago)

ysi?

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Monday, 26 June 2006 08:49 (nineteen years ago)

Feeling a bit guilty re My Part In Its Downfall I watched TOTP after the chart rundown yesterday for the first time since it moved to Sunday

Pussycat Dolls + Busta + WOLFMOTHER = BBC you are insane for axeing this programme

Jeff W (zebedee), Monday, 26 June 2006 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

But then, as Johnny Mathis and Deniece Williams summed it up so eloquently back in 1978, it really is a case of "Too Much, Too Little, Too Late."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 26 June 2006 11:19 (nineteen years ago)

And in any case, the attraction of the music featured continues to be fatally offset by the constant urge to give Floozie Cotton the Patrick Bateman treatment.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 26 June 2006 11:21 (nineteen years ago)

So, Lily Allen makesit to number 11. It's like number 1, but twice as good.

Oh, and are all the football tribute singles being sold off for 20p now?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 3 July 2006 06:24 (nineteen years ago)

On downloads presumably, isn't the single out today?

alext (alext), Monday, 3 July 2006 06:31 (nineteen years ago)

Actually she's at 13 on downloads. Desperately unappealing on TOTP last night - the sound of street youth, straight outta Bedales, with her Kinks ripoff tribute.

That new Xtina single isn't half bad - it maintains her record of one decent single every three years. But watching the video on TOTP - clever and artful, but those eyes are so irreversibly dead.

Paolo Nutini will doubtless be huge. No doubt fellow Paisley native David Tennant loves his melodic style.

Muse have really metamorphosed into a great band. The Kooks and Razorlight might do likewise if given enough time and encouragement.

Belle and Sebastian are turning into the indie Status Quo - always on TOTP, always sounding the same, but you can't really hate them. Stuart Murdoch looking increasingly like a young Mike Westbrook.

In the TOTP archives: Ace of Base wanting another baby in 1993 - the performance looked shockingly dated, more like 1973 than 1993, but they were fine for their time, and only one of them was a Nazi.

And the fabulous Moloko with my darling Roisin showing all the Xtinas and Lilys of this world what true sexiness actually means - talent and intelligence combined with those mischievous eyes, curling lips and that long black leather coat and those gloves which frankly TURN ME ON SOMETHING CHRONIC!

In a fairer world, "If We're In Love" would have been number one forever last year.

But in this world, thanks to the lovely street teams at Sony/BMG, Shakira warbles and wiggles her way to number one this week.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 3 July 2006 06:49 (nineteen years ago)

13 on d/l? That's not bad.

Kinks ripoff = LDN, surely. Was that what she did on TOTP yester?

Oh and apparently Beth Orton's new single didn't make the top 200. How many singles do you have to sell to make 199?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 3 July 2006 07:20 (nineteen years ago)

198?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 3 July 2006 07:33 (nineteen years ago)

oh damn i saw you mention moloko and briefly got very excited - moloko! back! new material! ROISIN! but no, damn archives.

xtina hasn't released a bad single since the ones off her first album which weren't 'genie in a bottle'.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 3 July 2006 07:46 (nineteen years ago)

"Come On Over Baby" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Genie In A Bottle".

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 3 July 2006 08:02 (nineteen years ago)

Stuart Murdoch looking increasingly like a young Mike Westbrook.

The past few weeks have just made me think that:

http://www.playinginfog.com/portraits/stuart-murdoch.jpg
http://www.londonbooks.co.uk/images/475/0007173962.jpg

I like it how we've gone six posts without noticing that Shakira has got to #1.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 3 July 2006 10:33 (nineteen years ago)

Also, Muse having a top 15 single despite being available on downloads for two months... this basiaclly means if they'd done concurrent releases they'd have got to #1, right?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 3 July 2006 10:45 (nineteen years ago)

Apart from the one where I mentioned Shakira getting to number one, that is (xpost).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 3 July 2006 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

xtina hasn't released a bad single since the ones off her first album which weren't 'genie in a bottle'.

xtina's duff singles are the ones where she has to share the spotlight with someone else - 'lady marmalade' , 'car wash' , 'can't hold us down' and the one with ricky martin. Although her Nelly duet was great because they revelled in each other's filthiness.

Also, did Shakira get to number 1 because of the release of the world cup mix of her song - the one where's it mashed up with the official theme?

danzig (danzig), Monday, 3 July 2006 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

Rubbish Xtina singles:

Come On Over Baby (All I Want Is You)
Nobody Wants To Be Lonely
Lady Marmalade
Can't Hold Us Down
Car Wash

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 3 July 2006 11:40 (nineteen years ago)

Yes (xpost in answer to the Shakira question).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 3 July 2006 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

the official Colourbox theme i hope

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 3 July 2006 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

'Can't Hold Us Down' is fine really. Aguilera's turn on 'Lady Marmalade' is the only time someone's come close to matching the oomph of the original.

the duet she did with Enrique (the one not of this parish) is her worst single.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 3 July 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

"The Official Colourbox World Cup Theme" 12" was doing brisk business in Notting Hill MVE on Saturday at a quid a throw.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 3 July 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure pub jokers have all pointed this out about "Hips Don't Lie", but can we assume that the phrase "I'm on tonight" means something totally different in America?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 3 July 2006 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

Rubbish Xtina singles:
Come On Over Baby (All I Want Is You)

This is absurd. Come On Over Baby is the best xtina single there ever was. Absolute classic.

danzig (danzig), Monday, 3 July 2006 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

Rubbish Xtina singles:
Can't Hold Us Down

This is absurd. 'Can't Hold Us Down' is INCREDIBLE and also EMPOWERING to YOUNG WOMEN and also HAS LIL KIM ON IT.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 3 July 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

EMPOWERING to YOUNG WOMEN with a CONVICTED FELON ON IT.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 3 July 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

WOMEN can PROTECT ATTEMPTED MURDERERS just as WELL as any MAN can.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 3 July 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

From 2000-2002, Lil' Kim and singer Mary J. Blige, became spokewomen for MAC Cosmetics and raised a record-breaking $4 million for people living with AIDS.

Well done for that though.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 3 July 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

of which about $12,000 found its way to people living with AIDS following compulsory deductions by MAC Cosmetics.

It is a terrible example. She should undertake basket knitting, like Clodagh Rodgers.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 3 July 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

"The Official Colourbox World Cup Theme" 12" was doing brisk business in Notting Hill MVE on Saturday at a quid a throw.

GOD BLESS THOSE LUCKY PUNTERS

I successfully resisted buying a third copy on Saturday night (.au time) in Erskineville

kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 3 July 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

kim wasn't a convicted felon when she recorded it! and i think the lyrics to 'can't hold us down' stand for themselves. also they're funny.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 3 July 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

The pair of them are just a bunch of chav nomark thugs and should be sent to Iraq as ballast.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 3 July 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

they are strong and talented young women who are fine role models!

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 3 July 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

They should be bricked up and sent to Northampton.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 3 July 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

where is northampton?

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 3 July 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

You've interviewed Alex Smoke, you must have passed it on the way up.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 3 July 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

oh no, alex smoke came down to london.

i have never been north of oxford in this country! (counting scotland as a different country and not counting eg going to birmingham airport)

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 3 July 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

brilliant.

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Monday, 3 July 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

where is northampton?

GTFO.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 3 July 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

So, I'd assume it'll be Lily Allen vs Justice vs Simian (that reads confusing) for number one next week?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 3 July 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Confusing, but oddly apt.

JvS currently ahead in the midweeks.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 07:17 (nineteen years ago)

haha wtf justice vs simian is going to no 1 - whatever next, 'rocker'? i expect 'washing up' will be the smash of 2008 at this rate!

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 07:43 (nineteen years ago)

Oh and apparently Beth Orton's new single didn't make the top 200. How many singles do you have to sell to make 199?

Beth Orton is at no87, and no200 this week sold just above 300 copies.

Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

And the midweek info I have has Lily Allen at no1 (followed by Shakira), not sure where Justice/Simian are. Pipettes are top20.

Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

She is indeed now top in the midweeks. Razorlight at 3, Paolo Hewitt at 5.

What a good job the charts don't count for anything any more.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 06:36 (nineteen years ago)

I am so glad you Britishers are about to get annoyed by Rogue Traders. (I actually think they're great, but you'll all despise them so ner ner)

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 06:40 (nineteen years ago)

They're not worth getting annoyed about, Ed.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 06:44 (nineteen years ago)

Well, not you, Marcello, you can just dismiss them as being inconsequential fluff. But for making Elvis Costello listenable, they have something. (Their fourth single is a pale "Kids In America" facsimile, though)

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 06:46 (nineteen years ago)

As for Lily, she said nasty things about one of the best, and yet least important and canonised British pop groups of the last decade, so I hope this is her last #1.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 06:47 (nineteen years ago)

who did lily say nasty things about?

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 07:03 (nineteen years ago)

assuming you don't mean chantelle fiddy

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 07:03 (nineteen years ago)

Steps, Lex. The chances of Lily Allen making a record half as good as "One For Sorrow"? Precisely nil, right?

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 07:06 (nineteen years ago)

Nonetheless, the industry conspiracy to get Lily Allen to number one will sadly succeed. More proof of the lie of the meritocratic society - as ever, capitalism only ever rewards those it wants to. And nobody else besides.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 07:15 (nineteen years ago)

She went to school w/ one of the Kooks, and had a strop because he played acoustic guitar in his dressing room at a TV show they were both on. And Carlos, for not being as nice as possible at the same show. And Lily Allen, for acting like a diva.

Subsequently, he (Kooks feller) was interviewed in NME and described her as great fun and a wild night out.

Go figure.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 07:26 (nineteen years ago)

The voice of the streets - straight outta Bedales.

In the words of Gilbert O'Sullivan, "doesn't it make you sick, mortar and brick?"

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 07:30 (nineteen years ago)

Steps, Lex. The chances of Lily Allen making a record half as good as "One For Sorrow"? Precisely nil, right?

well indeed, though my favourite steps songs are 'tragedy' and 'deeper shade of blue'.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 07:31 (nineteen years ago)

Nice to know that those World In Motion and Vindaloo royalties were put to good use by socialist Keith Allen.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 07:32 (nineteen years ago)

Heck, I'd buy our Alice into number one if I had the cash...

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 07:38 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't quite work for Smokie Featuring Roy "Chubby" Brown.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 07:40 (nineteen years ago)

Lex, mine two, but both of those were recorded by other people first, so I simply mentioned their best original.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 07:43 (nineteen years ago)

'deeper shade of blue' was a cover?! but it seems so quintessentially steps.

i don't think i'm as into steps as a lot of other poptimists - there's something about mixed-gender groups which stops me loving them outright, though obv i am very fond of many of their singles. it was the same for the sclub. still, better them than allen.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 07:51 (nineteen years ago)

better allien than allen.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 08:02 (nineteen years ago)

ah the records quite nice. What the heck.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 08:05 (nineteen years ago)

It's destined to be the most evil number one single since "Always Yours."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 08:09 (nineteen years ago)

Pssh!

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 08:10 (nineteen years ago)

It had better not still be number one by the time of the next Club Poptimism.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 08:11 (nineteen years ago)

Lex, "Deeper Shade Of Blue" was written for Tina Cousins, her version is rub though.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 08:28 (nineteen years ago)

talking of evil number ones, i finally heard the sandi thom, and was astounded at just how bad it was, it really surpassed my expectations of badness.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 08:34 (nineteen years ago)

there's something about mixed-gender groups which stops me loving them outright

except SONIC YOUTH?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 08:54 (nineteen years ago)

MC we don't have to play it unless it's a Club Popular.

BUT you're almost certainly going to hear Lily Allen at Poptimism anyway. And J vs S. And Rogue Traders. And Steps for that matter. And some stuff that you do like too, I'm sure.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 08:56 (nineteen years ago)

I can't remember if I like Rogue Traders or not.

There is a sense that 'Smile', decent tho I think it is, is #1 somehow not quote 'on merit'. But since when did that matter? And it's nowhere near as evil as 'I Wish I Was A Prog Rocker...'

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:00 (nineteen years ago)

i am shocked and stunned that la allen is anywhere near top ten.

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:00 (nineteen years ago)

Londonist, celebrity daughter, indieska bandwagon...how could it fail?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:04 (nineteen years ago)

#1 on iTunes as well

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:04 (nineteen years ago)

this country.

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:05 (nineteen years ago)

kaiser chiefs, futureheads, bloc party, all that dreadful lot go top 10, and that's what allen is aligned with, so why shouldn't she go top 10 too?

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:05 (nineteen years ago)

dunno, her sound just sounds kind of flimsy and non-hit-like, and to be fair, she doesn't sound like bloc party.

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:07 (nineteen years ago)

It wouldn't matter that much if the record were any good.

But when a genuine talent like Annie is mismarketed and passed over in favour of floozies with tits and connections for short-term gain, then I'd say it matters an awful lot.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:07 (nineteen years ago)

but the record is alright. i wasn't intending to like it as much as i do (nor LDN neither). not heard album yet.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

The record sounds like a Toto Coelo B-side. I've heard the album and it's equally terrible and false.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:14 (nineteen years ago)

i must hear this Toto Coelo b-side, to be sure.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:14 (nineteen years ago)

it's probably better than sandi thom, though i think she's bad simply as a phenomenon in a similar way to thom.

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:14 (nineteen years ago)

she's better than Thom, Bailey-Rae, Tunstall and those other dullards so if she takes attention away from them then good.

it's only a rung or two up the ladder having started from the bottom, but it's something.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:19 (nineteen years ago)

publicity gestures like the 'mixtape' also help distinguish her from those others.

Alesha should do a 'mixtape' now.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:21 (nineteen years ago)

i somehow find tunstall and bailey-rae less obnoxious, probably cos no-one's pretending they're 'cool'.

haha xpost well yeah exactly 'mixtape'.

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

i like obnoxiousness.

and it was a decent 'back to mine' mix.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:24 (nineteen years ago)

tunstall and bailey rae are just boring mor for old people who don't like music much - the kind of thing which has always been around and always will be. as long as they don't reach rhyming slang blunt levels of ubiquity they're ignorable.

allen is symptomatic of bad trends right now and is thus more irritating - also while i never expected to like tunstall or bailey rae, allen was pitched to me by various people as someone i *should* like, and so it was v disappointing to discover how much her music embodies a lot of what i hate.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:28 (nineteen years ago)

I rather like old KT Tunstall. She's only got one song but it isn't a bad one.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:37 (nineteen years ago)

i maintain that there is NO DIFFERENCE between 'Smile and 'Stars Are Blind', just for fun.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:37 (nineteen years ago)

A lot of people couldn't tell the difference between Vorster and Botha either.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:39 (nineteen years ago)

that probably wasn't as much fun tho.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:41 (nineteen years ago)

Hold on, it's "Smile" that's going to #1? Did "LDN" ever get a release??

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 09:49 (nineteen years ago)

It was out as a seven-inch for about two minutes a few months back.

"Smile" is about as much fun as a night in Treblinka.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 10:02 (nineteen years ago)

you'd love it if it was Amy Winehouse.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

amy winehouse was much better at this sort of thing than lily allen! she was funny, for one thing. and she wasn't fucking indie-ska.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

Another fucking problem with Lallen is her hypocrisy as well. She's doing an interview with the pop press? "Oh, man, white boy guitar acts are so boring, we need some POP up in this bitch". Interview for the 12CD press? "Man, you know who rules? The Kaiser Chiefs, they're so much better than bands like Steps who have, you know, actually been in the charts inthe past five years".

At least Cerys Matthews was a fucking junkie, so you could allow those indiscretions.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

As indeed is Lady Saw, but then I don't suppose she went to public school.
(lex xpost)

Lallen at dinner: "pass the ptarmigan, darling."
(dom xpost)

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

Dom, get your facts straight. Cerys was a junkie AND an alcoholic.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

"Oh, man, white boy guitar acts are so boring, we need some POP up in this bitch"

this is the most infuriating to me of the nature of the hype about her - it fits the "look at this young autonomous-but-sexy woman who writes her own songs which are 'perfect' 'pop' not like all those talentless pop stars in the charts like rachel stevens" meme to a tee. the pipettes fit into that, too. when in fact both are indie as indie can be.

marcello - as, too, is ce'cile! why the hell ce'cile isn't a global star i have no idea - she could be so easily marketed as the female sean paul (market is more than big enough to hold two dancehall-pop stars with witty bons mots about the opposite sex).

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

There needs to be some sort of name for the critical school of thought that has to boast how about how much they love The Pop, but can only love it if it's approached from an indie standpoint.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

[lex zing]

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think there will ever be a female sean paul in terms of that level of mainstream success. seems a big shame.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

I suppose you could have counted Missy once, but it's been an increasingly long time since her last big hit.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

i mean specifically dancehall-based tho.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

it's only been a year since 'Lose Control' reached #7 tho.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

missy didn't have that many big hits in the uk, but 'lose control' was one of them , no?

xpost

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

Missy's had at least six top ten hits in the UK.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

Then again, the question of a chart "career" is probably academic, given that 90% of all big hits are one-offs; I don't expect Lallen to be an exception.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

'lose control' was massive but there is this sense that even though missy's not going to stop making great music, she's not the pop culture colossus she used to be. she needs someone to pass the torch to!

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

Here I was thinking that she'd stopped making great music about three years ago.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

her last album was v good. more people should have raved about 'bad man'!

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

Missy's had at least six top ten hits in the UK.
-- Konal Doddz (stevem7...), July 5th, 2006

which isn't very many, off of six LPs!

'lose control' was massive but there is this sense that even though missy's not going to stop making great music, she's not the pop culture colossus she used to be. she needs someone to pass the torch to!
-- The Lex (alex.macpherso...), July 5th, 2006.

Here I was thinking that she'd stopped making great music about three years ago.
-- Marcello Carlin (marcellocarli...), July 5th, 2006.

isn't this more about timbaland? missy was always slightly unworthy of her vehicle imo.

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

get out

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

yeah controversial i know...

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

not so much controversial as just nonsensical

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

"Lose Control" will be a pub quiz question in 10 years time, sorry, you might all love it, but #7 be buggered, Missy hasn't had a big REMEMBER ME single since "Work It".

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

not so much controversial as just nonsensical
-- Konal Doddz (stevem7...), July 5th, 2006.

not at all.

'lose control' is thankfully light on missy. and vg too.

where did 'work it' chart?

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

#6

afaic 'Gossip Folks' and 'Lose Control' are just as great and memorable as 'Work It'.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

otm. actually i prefer em both to 'work it'.

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

ie they have non-obnoxious performers on them as well as missy.

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

Ludacris and Fatman Scoop not obnoxious? ahahahahahahaha

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

ur confusin obnoxious and entertaining.

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

Lily Allen, or the KwikSave Neneh Cherry as I prefer to call her, becomes the first artist to climb from 13 to 1 since the Firm in 1987 with "Star Trekkin'."

Razorlight up to 3, Paolo Hewitt to 5. Bob Sinclar in at 9, Rogue Traders at 18, Justice vs Simian way behind at 20, Jamie T at 22, Busta Rhymes at 23, and the Pipettes at 26.

Albums: Muse straight in at the top (rightly so), Johnny Cash at 9.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 08:00 (nineteen years ago)

Second week at number one for Lily. Yr big climbers are Rogue Traders, making Natalie Bassingthwaite the first Neighbours cast member to have a top 10 hit while still in the programme since, erm... please don't tell me people keep statistics about that sort of thing. Please. #3, anyhow, with Busta's Ringtone Loop climbing to #8. HE USED TO BE GOOD, DAMMIT.

New And Entering: FOR YOU, SHAYNE WARD, ZE POP MUSIC IS OVER or something at #14, Rihanna cries MURDAH at #16, The James Dean Bradfield Experience (wouldn't that have been a much better name?) #18, Dirty & The Pretty Things (I'm on fire, really I am) #20, Gnarls Barkley #23, James Morrison (who could maybe be described as the Paolo Nutini it's OK to like except only half of that is true and it's the Paolo Nutini bit) #27, Nylon (who could maybe be described as mimsy sub-Lene Marlin bollocks - seriously, Marit Larsen's all the rage in Norway and they give us this instead?) #29, Milburn (who could... nah) #32, Rooster #33 (if that's downloads alone I'll be very surprised), and Richard Ashcroft Is The MOR Machine (whoo!) #40.

Albums sees Muse continue to behemoth it up ahead of the Kooks. Thom Tumb is #3. Ray Lamontagne is at #10 with an album that must have been out for at least two years... why has it just started getting the push now? The Absolutely Definitely No Shitting About Best Of Billy Joel is #16, one ahead of Guillemots.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 16 July 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

And that Ray Lamontagne question get answered: because there's still Jack Johnson albums in the top 40.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 16 July 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Ray Lamontagne's album is being promo'd in branches of.. Cafe Nero? Costa Coffee? One of them.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 16 July 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

I envy anybody with enough absence of self-awareness to buy something plugged in a coffee shop.

More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Sunday, 16 July 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

Also, Nylon aren't Norwegian, they're Icelandic. So "Sylvia Night's all the rage in Norway and they give us this instead?"

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 16 July 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

if you cross Norway out and replace it with Iceland.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 16 July 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Week TWO for the best number one of the year.

Hark! The lamentation of tin-eared old men!

David Orton (scarlet), Sunday, 16 July 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

John O'Farrell is a big Lily Allen fan. Maybe he and David Orton should hang out and be THE VOICE OF DA YOUF together.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 16 July 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

Best number one of the year? No, sorry, that's still Meck innit.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 16 July 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Best number one of the year? No, sorry, that's still Meck innit.

qft

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 16 July 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I know they're Icelandic, it's just that if you could have picked one Scandinavian pop act to cross over, then... why The Corrs without the depth?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 16 July 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

I envy anybody with enough absence of self-awareness to buy something plugged in a coffee shop.
-- More Tongue Feldman (noodle_vagu...) (webmail), Yesterday 6:43 PM. (later) (link)

Did alright for Tommy Steele tho.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 17 July 2006 06:38 (nineteen years ago)

no 1s of 2006 in order of quality:

nelly furtado
madge
ne*yo
shakira
gnarls barkley
biggie
chico
lily allen
sandi thom
arctic monkeys

(nb i have missed out orson, who the fuck are they? i did not notice them have a no 1!)

(none, so far, as great as the best no 1 of 2005, which was ciara)

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 17 July 2006 06:58 (nineteen years ago)

quite a nice surprise to see that there are more broadly "good" no 1s than "bad" ones!

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 17 July 2006 06:59 (nineteen years ago)

The Ray Lamontagne album is also currently retailing at £7.99 in HMV.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 17 July 2006 07:14 (nineteen years ago)

you'd love Orson, Lex.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 17 July 2006 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

yes.

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Monday, 17 July 2006 09:34 (nineteen years ago)

what kind of music do they make?

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 17 July 2006 10:09 (nineteen years ago)

party music for party people.

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Monday, 17 July 2006 10:11 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think so because i would have heard of them if so.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 17 July 2006 10:12 (nineteen years ago)

like Andrew WK.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 17 July 2006 11:17 (nineteen years ago)

Orson could best be described as the best bits of Brandy crossed with the best bits of Nine Black Alps.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 11:22 (nineteen years ago)

with the best bits of Nine Black Alps.

i think this is where you've come unstuck.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 17 July 2006 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

If Aaliyah had lived she'd be lining up to guest star with Orson.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 17 July 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

That speculation is horribly accurate.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 17 July 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

She would have been the girl in the video ripping his jacket off.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 11:33 (nineteen years ago)

But just as the scene fades out she turns to camera and reveals SHE'S A VAMPIRE! pwned

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 11:33 (nineteen years ago)

i googled orson, they look ghastly. they'd probably go between lollen and sthom.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 17 July 2006 12:21 (nineteen years ago)

fair cop

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 17 July 2006 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

It's the official "Record hitcount in a week for StylusMagazine.com" top 40, and what better way of kicking it off than with the removal of Lallen Trustfund-Chin from the top of it? Yep, "Smile" is down to #4, being replaced at the pinnacle by McFly Pissing About In A Hospital. Rihanna comes like rain in the night at #2, and Wyclef ft Buttocks is at #3.

MP3 to real sale climbers for James Morrison (#27 to #5) and Gnarls (#23 to #10). Red Hot Chili Peppers bring you so much pleasure at #16, and Xtina's comeback single probably won't go '1 next week at #18.

Sean Paul pays homage to some dead people at #22, Chris Brown keeps popping up around these parts for no real reason at #23, and got any hats? Throw them in the air now in celebration, as Snow Patrol are BACK (#25). Frank Fernando #30, and Wolfmother probably add another ten posts onto some ILX thread I'll never read at #31.

Supermode are some dance thing or other #36, Bullet for My Valentine are METALCORE or something at #37, Ray Lamontagne's "Trouble", originally released in 1932 I believe, is at #38, and Klaus Badelt's unappealingly titled "He's A Pirate" is at #40.

Albums? Shit yeah we got albums. Razorshite morelike amirite? hit the #1 spot ahead of Lily Allen Will Now Complain About Razorlight On Her Blog at #2. Rounding off the all new entry top #3 is Paolo Nutini, henceforth referred to as "Please stop making music".

Ali Farka Toure is the only other new entry in the top 40, at #34. Insert your own patronising world music gag here.

67 weeks on the top 40 for "Employment"!!!

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 23 July 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Is that new Rihanna song the worst thing EVER or what!??

musically (musically), Sunday, 23 July 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
Obv. we were all too busy watching the last TOTP last week - anyhow, Shakira remains at number one for a second week, ahead of Rihannrihihannhanna and Christina Aguilera And Her Quite Good Sleeve Design. Cascada are/is shiny like a new pin at #4 - dunno if this is download only or what have you, but given its startling success in America (a German tack-house act at #10 in the US in this day and age? Blimey) I'd imagine it'll be kicking round for a while yet. Paris - For A Man Or A Woman climbs to #5 now physical sales have come into play, ahead of Jimmy Whitebread, The Bastard Son Of Kathy Burke, Izzy Is A Psycho, Paolo Thingybob and The Leicestershire Dreadfully Hard Men's Club.

New entries - The Similou #20, The Raconteurs #29, Captain may or may not be the new Deacon Blue at #30, The Holloways (you'd be inclined to think they weren't trying, wouldn't you?) #33 and Frank are #40.

ALBUMS - James Morrison's Radox For The Ears is #1. The Puppini Sisters take Doon Mackichan's ball and run with it all the way to #17, and DMX is #22. Even weirder, Stone Sour are #27. This week, the random Greatest Hits generator needle points to Fleetwood Mac at #37. There's only one Jack Johnson album in the top 40 (In Between Dreams, #35), and Employment is at #40 after 69 weeks.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 6 August 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

I love Shakira and all but that song is pants and its sales are still increasing! It's getting a little ridiculous.

Also, Music Week reports that video downloads are going to be added to the singles chart. How would that affect the chart? Would the pervs have put Paris at #1 this week?

danzig (danzig), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

Frank, oh dear, prove to be even less commercially saleable than the act they "nicked" their first single from.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:20 (nineteen years ago)

Why aren't Frank higher? This song got a decent amount of exposure what with the band having a 'reality TV' show on Channel 4 at the weekends! And it's a decent enough pop song.

Presumably not much support from Radio1, and with no Smash Hits now which mags are still gonna rep this sort of thing?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

Perhaps it's just that, in 2006, nobody much outside these boards cares much about this kind of pop anymore?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:24 (nineteen years ago)

not seen them on the hits.

Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:30 (nineteen years ago)

They're not "very now".

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:30 (nineteen years ago)

tell me more about frank, please, someone who's heard them. i know they're produced by xenomania which is a plus point (let us pass swiftly over xeno's unimpressive record sans girls aloud), but...what do they sound like, who are THEY, what are their names, and so on.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:34 (nineteen years ago)

let us pass swiftly over xeno's unimpressive record sans girls aloud


http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp/secret_shots/images/20031209_mutya.jpg

Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:37 (nineteen years ago)

Frank is the girl group from Channel 4's comedy drama series Totally Frank. Frank consists of lead singer Lauren Blake born 1984, guitarist Bryony Afferson born 1984, keyboard player Helena Dowling born 1983) and drummer Hayley Angel Wardle born 1983. In the show Totally Frank the girls play fictional characters Tasha (Lauren), Charlie (Bryony), Flo (Helena) and Neve (Hayley). The band use their real names outside of the show.

The girls debut single I'm Not Shy was released on July 31, 2006 and reached #40 in the UK singles chart. Their debut album Devil's Got Your Gold will be released on August 7, 2006, featuring tracks from the television show including Money In My Pocket, Never Left A Girl, Silence, Don't Wait Up, All I Ever Do, the second series theme tune; Turn It Up, and the first series theme tune; Complicated. As well as new tracks If The Devil's Got Your Gold, Wake Up and Palm Of Your Hand.

The promo album sampler for Frank features 3 tracks, these being I'm Not Shy, Turn It Up and Never Left A Girl.

Frank supported Girls Aloud on their 2006 Chemistry Tour of England and Scotland. The setlist included tracks called I'm Not Shy, Turn It Up and Never Left A Girl.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:37 (nineteen years ago)

Then I'm curious about why they don't care anymore. (xpost x3)

Girls Aloud and Sugababes would still make the top 20 at least*. How would a new all girl group (that aren't trying to emulate the Pussycat Dolls directly, or 'retro indie' like the seemingly increasingly popular Pipettes) break through now (if not via TV show)?

How do bands get on certain music channels now? Of course a lot of acts and singles given generous coverage on music channels end up outside the top 40 (esp. on Channel U).

*but then 'I'm Not Shy' would sound a bit weak for either of them. Conversely 'Turn It Up' sounds too 'hard' for a single.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

I think 'Complicated' is the one that does a similar 'oooh-wee-oooooooh' thing to The Lightning Seeds 'Lucky You'. 'Turn It Up' is excellent and would've worked well on 'Chemistry' for GA.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:40 (nineteen years ago)

i am intrigued and would like a ysi, andrew will never know.

Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:42 (nineteen years ago)

you can hear a clip of each album track on their website.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:43 (nineteen years ago)

i really wish more people would try to emulate the pussycat dolls.

let us pass swiftly over xeno's unimpressive record sans girls aloud

i know they've done some great stuff with sugababes, rachel and so on, but the strike rate is less impressive than it is with ver aloud.

I think 'Complicated' is the one that does a similar 'oooh-wee-oooooooh' thing to The Lightning Seeds 'Lucky You'

it sounds like the lightning seeds.

forget it. stop talking about them. AAAARGH

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:45 (nineteen years ago)

ha. listen to 'Life's Too Short' from '99 for more evidence that Brian Higgins is a big Broudie fan on the not-so-sly.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:59 (nineteen years ago)

As an album it isn't vintage Xenomania; shows, I suppose, just how crucial the personality factor of GA is to the success of their work. You can't really identify with anybody in Frank, so all that's left is to "admire" the music, which in itself is OK but not particularly fantastic. If Higgins is the Horn of the noughties, then Frank are his Philip Jap.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:59 (nineteen years ago)

just how crucial the personality factor of GA is to the success of their work

but this took aaaaages to leak thru imo and even now i still don't think of them as particularly distinctive personality-wise (but it doesn't matter cos the songs are often so great). i agree that Frank aren't something to get especially excited about at all but it would still be nice to see them doing better than they are.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:02 (nineteen years ago)

As with Mania and Annie From Norway, they're just not made for these times. Though the Pussycat Dolls somehow are. Beats me.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

but this took aaaaages to leak thru imo

oh i completely disagree! even if the personalities of GA took a while to leak through, in terms of knowing their names and knowing what each Girl Aloud's role was, what stuck out about 'sound of the underground' was the collective personality of their 'voice' - it's bold and brassy and brooks no argument, even if you don't know who it belongs to.

mania had personality too, but it was more laidback - take their personality and fuse it with corinne bailey rae's music and then CBR might be some good. they didn't really bother with promoting themselves as a band though did they?

pussycat dolls succeed because they're so relentlessly characterless, and there are so many of them and they're all interchangeable. whereas a characterless solo singer has nowhere to hide, the lack of focus in the pussycat dolls merely reinforces they're sixteen-legged sexrobot strength.

my GOD i love 'buttonz' so much.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:20 (nineteen years ago)

THEIR sixteen-legged &c &c

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:20 (nineteen years ago)

i don't even know how many PCDs there are. eight? seven?

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:20 (nineteen years ago)

though i love the bit where snoop runs out of stuff to say and so just recites all their names, which takes up a good two lines!

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

One and four Bezzes.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

also "YEAH I THOUGHT I SAW A PUSSYCAT"

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

pussycat dolls succeed because they're so relentlessly characterless, and there are so many of them and they're all interchangeable. whereas a characterless solo singer has nowhere to hide, the lack of focus in the pussycat dolls merely reinforces they're sixteen-legged sexrobot strength.

there are six, now.

lex, i call bullshit, there totally is a focus: the fit one who does the singing.

Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:23 (nineteen years ago)

do you know her name?

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:23 (nineteen years ago)

Lex, convince me to like lazy, couldn't give a shit, "only recording this because it's in my contract" guest verses from rappers.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:24 (nineteen years ago)

cos they're funny!

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:26 (nineteen years ago)

i'm disappointed however that the song appears to have been retitled 'buttons' for single release. my promo copy says 'buttonz'. it will always be 'buttonz' to me.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:27 (nineteen years ago)

Esteban Buttonez

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:28 (nineteen years ago)

also the thing with PCDs is because they're so characterless, the more interesting and inventive and subtle the song the less good they are - eg wrecking 'don't cha'. and the more formulaic, generic and lowest-common-denominator the beat, the more exquisitely right their phoned-in-ness is.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:30 (nineteen years ago)

I've tried to listen to "I'm Not Shy" a few times now, and I forget how it sounds after every time. It's just dull. Also, it really does not help that "Frank" is a terrible name for a girlgroup, although I suppose it didn't hurt that boyband Blue (although I suppose they did have Lee Ryan to give them all the pipes and looks and character)

danzig (danzig), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:35 (nineteen years ago)

also the thing with PCDs is because they're so characterless, the more interesting and inventive and subtle the song the less good they are - eg wrecking 'don't cha'. and the more formulaic, generic and lowest-common-denominator the beat, the more exquisitely right their phoned-in-ness is.

basically the more shitty the song, the better.

popism explained.

Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:37 (nineteen years ago)

formulaic and generic != shitty

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

'lowest-common-denominator' and 'phoned-in' mean shitty, fyi!

Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

no they don't!

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:41 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with Lex in theory but I don't think I can ever warm to the PCDs. I can't even formulate a real sexual attraction to them. But the argument is similar to the theory proposed behind 'Come And Get It's excellence (mediocre-at-best pop star means great writing and production are not eclipsed and there's more effort put into them so as to carry the performer to heights above their station).

Because 'I'm Not Shy' does the old 'list days of the week' thing I get reminded of 'Friday I'm In Love' and various other songs. Unlike The Cure though the girls cruelly ignore Thursday whereas Robert Smith had the nous to integrate it successfully.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:41 (nineteen years ago)

'phoned in' can, with the right beat and lyrics, convey a totally awesome sense of too-good-to-even-try diva-ness: jennifer lopez is QUEEN of this style

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

ultimate phone-in: Siouxsie Sioux on 'Cish Cash'

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:44 (nineteen years ago)

though she does it better on "Peek-A-Boo"

Also: "Speeding Motorcycle" by Yo La Tengo with Daniel Johnstone on the other line.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:45 (nineteen years ago)

I can't even formulate a real sexual attraction to them.

formulate!!!

i don't like j-lo, or the PCDs; horses for courses. i like the phone-in bit on 'jus a rascal'.

Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

'phoned in' can, with the right beat and lyrics, convey a totally awesome sense of too-good-to-even-try diva-ness: jennifer lopez is QUEEN of this style

Except J-Lo is in fact shit and so are her records, with one or two exceptions.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:48 (nineteen years ago)

j-lo is not remotely shit, she's tremendous and also a litmus test of popism. a good three quarters of her singles are brilliant.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:50 (nineteen years ago)

'Peek-A-Boo' doesn't sound 'phoned in' at all to me (neither does 'Cish Cash' really but she literally did phone it in so...)

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:51 (nineteen years ago)

I am not being told what a litmus test for popism is by someone who listens to as much indie as you do, Lex.

Besides which.

If You Had My Love: shit
Waiting For Tonight: good, but only because it's straight-ahead faceless dance-pop
Feelin' So Good: shit
Let's Get Loud: funny, but also shit
Love Don't Cost A Thing: shit, chorus ripped from "The Boy Is Mine"
Play: shit, song's own writer basically redid it better, also "AUtomatic" by Sarah Whatmore pwns it
Ain't It Funny: Kind of frisky in the original, a complete bland mess in the remix
I'm Real: Hysterical, but not actually good in any meaningful sense
I'm Gonna Be Alright: decent
Jenny From The Block: just awful, a nadir for pop
All I Have: shit
I'm Glad: Can't remember this one. Probably shit, though.
Baby I Love U: See above.
Get Right: Okay, I'll give you that this one is good.
Hold You Down: Shit.
Control Myself: Pretty good, for reasons unrelated to J-Lo herself.

In what universe is this 3/4?

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 7 August 2006 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

Popism != liking any old shit because it happens to be shiny

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 7 August 2006 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

i think the "lex listens to indie" meme needs to be done away with given that even if i like, i dunno, sonic youth, 99% of the time you will find me listening to either r&b or house. i'm not really joking about the litmus test thing either, though i think it only applies in the uk - artists like j-lo and mariah carey are treated as jokes for the most part by the uk press, they're perceived to be these spoilt arrogant bonkers divas. which of course they probably are - but the popism thing i'm talking about is in recognising that this is a GOOD THING.

If You Had My Love: shit

wrong, this is awesome, sophisticated and longing

Waiting For Tonight: good, but only because it's straight-ahead faceless dance-pop

ie GOOD

Feelin' So Good: shit
Let's Get Loud: funny, but also shit

agreed

Love Don't Cost A Thing: shit, chorus ripped from "The Boy Is Mine"

self-cannibalisation = the motor which drives pop; 'the boy is mine' is good ergo 'love don't cost a thing' is good, and also FUNNY because in the video when j-lo throws off all the designer jewellery and so on, i imagine her ordering her minions to pick it up the minute the cameras stop rolling

Play: shit, song's own writer basically redid it better, also "AUtomatic" by Sarah Whatmore pwns it

there is no universe in which anything by sarah whatmore, who has zero star quality, pwns anything by mega-diva j-lo. 'play' is graet, anyway. the power of the milian!

Ain't It Funny: Kind of frisky in the original, a complete bland mess in the remix
I'm Real: Hysterical, but not actually good in any meaningful sense
I'm Gonna Be Alright: decent

all of these are one blur of blah to me

Jenny From The Block: just awful, a nadir for pop

omg what are you talking about, this is a PINNACLE of pop! this is incredible! lots of fun to dance to as well

All I Have: shit
I'm Glad: Can't remember this one. Probably shit, though.
Baby I Love U: See above.
Get Right: Okay, I'll give you that this one is good.
Hold You Down: Shit.

agreed

Control Myself: Pretty good, for reasons unrelated to J-Lo herself.

she's great on it though - "cos the afterparty! is at my body! meet me you're invited!"

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 August 2006 11:09 (nineteen years ago)

Edward O, I greatly admire you for trudging through J. Lo's discography to bash the lex - but you must give her credit for her awesomeness on "Control Myself" - from the spanish intro to the interjecting moans and giggles and the parts where she sings together with LL - she is brilliant on it - and she doesn't phone it in at all, which disproves the lex's point.

danzig (danzig), Monday, 7 August 2006 11:14 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, but even by your bizarre standards this is in no way 3/4. "If You Had My Love" is about as sophisticated as an amoeba. It goes on for-bloody-ever, especially the video version, so I guess one could mistake that for sophistication.

x-post, I didn't say J-Lo on Control Myself was bad, I just think that it's her co-stars and the production that are the star attractions.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 7 August 2006 11:16 (nineteen years ago)

she is better than ll on that. no great achievement.

Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 7 August 2006 11:20 (nineteen years ago)

I can't even remember what LL does on "Lose Control". How the fuck is he credited on the track ahead of J-Lo?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 7 August 2006 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

"Control Myself" would be good even as an instrumental, anyway.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 7 August 2006 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

ll is the one saying 'she takes off / her lip gloss' or whatever.

Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 7 August 2006 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

'I'm Real' has the Zapp bit, that's good.

Ed O sounds like an indie-kid when slagging J-Lo!

But re Frank at #40, is it downloads only or not? If so that's not bad rly.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 7 August 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

No it's actual sales - the single came out last Monday.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 7 August 2006 11:54 (nineteen years ago)

those sarcastic tarts at popjustice duped me.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 7 August 2006 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

If I were an indie kid, I wouldn't have rated "Waiting For Tonight" and "I'm Gonna Be Alright" as her best singles.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

What's the indie kid's favourite J-Lo single then?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

"Jenny From The Block", because it's boring and has no fucking tune, innit.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

'ain't it funny', probably - ja rule credibility

Ed O sounds like an indie-kid when slagging J-Lo!

fixed

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

'get right', because it's good.

xpost

Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

'jenny from the block' is the POPISTS' favourite because it's the most ridiculous! indie kids hate it cos she's not real

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

"Jenny From The Block", because it's boring and has no fucking tune, innit.

indie kids like boring music and CARE about a tune tho.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

"Wheels Cha Cha" or the "Theme From Maigret" - it's a tough call.

(Dom xpost)

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

indie kids hate it cos she's not real

but what about that song where she insists 'I'm Real'?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

"Get Right" makes sense as a popist favourite. Hating "Jenny From The Block" for being fake is indie. Hating it for being boring and having no fucking tune is popist.

But as I said, my favourite is "Waiting For Tonight", which she's completley blank on, she doesn't try, she's just singing a pretty good song, BEHOLD IT IS THE RACHEL STEVENS EFFECT (not really).

x-post, indie kids claim to care about tunes but the bands don't write any, amirite.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

What do you mean it has no tune?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

Where's the flute sample from? I like that. And the intro. Lyrics are appalling however.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

JFTB has a fucking brilliant tune.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

boogie down productions sample surprised me.

Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

'ain't it funny', probably - ja rule credibility

I didn't realise ja rule had any credibility, even amongst indie kids. It'd have to be "Get Right" for Rich Harrison credibility.

danzig (danzig), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

"Jenny From The Block" is on some days worse than Mein Kampf.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

Where's the flute sample from? I like that. And the intro. Lyrics are appalling however.

The beat was stolen, apparently without permission, from "Watch Out Now" by The Beatnuts. Their lyrics imply they're not too keen on J-Lo's unique brand of braggadacio R&B. The Beatnuts: indie or pop?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

Not as good as the Beatnigs.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

All other rappers ever > Michael Franti

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

Now this really is getting silly.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 7 August 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

Michael Franti as a rapper > Michael Franti as guitar-toting singer-songwriter though.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 7 August 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

Where's the flute sample from? I like that.
Didn't we do this on LJ poptimists already, steve? It's Enoch Light's version of "Hi Jack" (via The Beatnuts, who sampled it first).

I prefer Lex's take on J-Lo to edward's FWIW.

Jeff W (zebedee), Monday, 7 August 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

sorry, mind like a sieve.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 7 August 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Man, what a chart for ILX to go down for, eh? In one of the least probable battles for #1 in recent memory, Shakira holds off Cascada at the top. The only other major change in the top ten is Snow Patrol (who have broken America) climbing to #10 from #13.

Below that, Michael Gray kind of puts Alisha's Attic back in the charts as his collaboration with Shelly Poole gets to #12, The View's 'Wasted Little DJ's' is a handy pointer as to why people are getting excited about The Horrors instead at #15, 'Horny As A Dandy' would probably come somewhere near the bottom of a list of Most Requested Mash-Ups Of All Time but is somehow at #17, and Chamillionaire's US chart-topping success translates to #19 in British money. According to Radio 1, The Similou are a new entry for a second week running at #21. Hmm. Your probable big climber next week is Cassie, who's this week's #23. Orson's bandwagon continues to roll at #27, and, by the power of L'Oreal and Citroen, Oxford electro-bods The Egg get into the top 40 as David Guetta co-opts them all the way to #28. Tom Novy is #31 because he may as well be, and Victoria Bergsman's career post-Concretes begins with her first chart appearance, guesting on Peter, Bjorn and John's nowhere-near-as-good-as-its-intro-would-suggest 'Young Folks' at #35. P!ATD #39, PRML SCRM #40.

In the albums, James Morrison gets a second week as Britain's Most Popular Stubble-Chinned Man. Orson climb from 12 to 4 which, in a world where 'Hips Don't Lie' is set to be one of the year's biggest-selling singles, is probably fair enough. Chamillionaire is new at 33, Pink Floyd's Pulse is 34.

Oh, and Employment has finally left the top 40.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

William I miss your old live chart rundown. It was a great read.
You don't even post pics of Saints players anymore.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

I keep thinking of having another go for old times' sakes, but I've got a new job that starts in a couple of weeks that means I'm working all day Sunday. Perhaps next week, I dunno. In the meantime, Gareth Bale (magic left foot not pictured):

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

Your top three: Shakira ft. Wyclef, Chamillionaire ft. Krayzie Bone, David Guetta vs. The Egg. The combined might of which is enough to leave the Arctic Monkeys flagging at #4. Cassie climbs to #6, and Micky Modelle vs. Jessy's version of 'Dancing In The Dark' rounds out one of the oddest-looking top tens for some time (see, I knew I could tie this in to Gareth Bale somehow!)

Slightly lower down, Alesha From Mis-Teeq's solo career kicks off at #14, Ronan Keating 'does' the Goo-Goo Dolls at #15, and Maria Off X-Factor makes a respectable showing at #20. Respectable enough to get her a second single? Well...

Into DOWNLOAD-ONLY territory, as 'Deja Vu' looks to be replicating its US struggle by kicking off at #21. Chico has covered 'D.I.S.C.O.' and got it to #24. I think that's with physicals thrown in. I hope that's with physicals thrown in. The perplexingly critically lauded Young Knives make it to #35, and The Sunshine Underground make like The Music never happened at #39.

Stinaaggulerra is the first act to top the charts with a double album since, er, Muse earlier this year. I think. Yr token not-entirely-necessary compilation is The Mamas & The Papas at #21, two places ahead of Captain, who appear to have fans, somehow. Lambchop are #43.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 21 August 2006 08:22 (nineteen years ago)

I thought the Iron Maiden single was out last week - or was it ineligible? It was #3 in HMV on Saturday.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 21 August 2006 08:53 (nineteen years ago)

there's a band called the sunshine underground?

Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 21 August 2006 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

Got Glint would be better.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 21 August 2006 09:06 (nineteen years ago)

I realised yesterday that I quite like Michael Gray's 'Borderline' - more than I should do at least.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

'Deja Vu' looks to be replicating its US struggle

All hail Bonnie Prince Predicto: Beyonce strolls to number 1, inevitably. There is some minor pushing and shoving elsewhere in the top ten, net results being Snow Patrol climbing to #7 with Rogue Traders at #9.

Next highest new entry is Matt Willis, who makes #11, possibly letting him get his album out or maybe have a third single. One of the two. 'SexyBack' is #13 on downloads alone, which presumably results in next week's #1, thus possibly making it the new 'Slow'. Maybe. A Morrissey Single is #17, and Keane are #20. Wouldn't it be lovely if that were on combined sales?

Then we have Orrico #22 (downloads, I think), Yorke #23 (combined), Feeling #24 (fussed). Downloads only for Pink at #28, but hopefully not for Lazy-B's "Everybody's Free To Wear Underwear" at #30. Pharrell and Kanye #31, Fratellis #35, and Missy Elliott is #38 with 'We Run This', which was a single in the US months ago now, and which she is presumably using to plug her Greatest Hits album. Which seems a bit odd, somehow.

Albums: Snow Patrol are #1, because. Idlewild debuts at #16, The Young Knives CHANGE EVERYTHING at #21, Slayer are #23, ULTIMATE PRINCE (with accompanying 50ft laser-sword) #24, something which people are perfectly free to discuss elsewhere #29, and Seth Lakeman is #32, possibly becoming the first token folk artist from a Mercury Music Prize list to go top 40... ever, perhaps? Unless we're including Beth Orton, which we probably shouldn't.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 28 August 2006 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

You missed out P*r*s H*lt*n.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 28 August 2006 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

and Keane are #20. Wouldn't it be lovely if that were on combined sales?

Keane are on combined sales. It was at 65 last week. Looks like the backlash against alcoholics has began. The return of Stacie 'can't fake orgasms' Orrico is also charting on combined sales. It was 79 last week.

danzig (danzig), Monday, 28 August 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

Also it looks like JT will top the charts on both sides of the pond by the end of the week - first simultaneous charttopper since Usher did it twice in 2004.

danzig (danzig), Monday, 28 August 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

When is the Scissor Sisters single out? 2007?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 28 August 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

Timberlake is yr #1 here and in the US, thus becoming the first artist since Men At Work to be compared to Simon & Garfunkel, or something. It won't last, mind, since the Scissor Sisters are #4 on downloads alone, one ahead of, er, The Fratellis, who climb thirty places with their combined physical and download sales. This means they're popular, doesn't it? Crumbs.

Others reaping the benefits of CD sales are Pink (#11), The Feeling (#12) and Sandi Thom, whose second single gets stuck at #22 having been #73 on downloads last week. Still, that's better than Basement Jaxx manage - 'Hush Boy' is #27, having failed to crack the top 75 on downloads last week.

'Promiscuous' is #15 on downloads alone, btw.

Little Man Tate get their second top 40 hit (no, really) at #29, ahead of the download sales of 'Rudebox' (#30), A Muse Single That Isn't 'Knights Of Cydonia' (#38) and Honey, Lemar's Home! (#41) DL's also (presumably) put Fedde Le Grand #53, Kelis #64 (ow) and poor old 'Morris Brown' #70 (owwwwww).

In the land of the long-player, Kasabian are king, with Dylan at #3 (KASABIAN'S Tom Meighan last night launched a sensational attack on Bob Dylan, claiming the rock legend is "short" and mocking his inability to grow a proper moustache) and Maiden at #4 (KASABIAN'S Tom Meighan last night launched a sensational attack on Iron Maiden, describing the rock legends as "old" and "crap"). Yr only other entry in the top 40 is Cassie's self-titled album at #33.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 4 September 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

KASABIAN's Tom Meighan last night launched a sensational attack on Basra Cassie Out Of Cassie, hinting that the R&B legend was "coloured" and "cheers the opposition at cricket."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 4 September 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

And so the Scissor Sisters do indeed get their first ever #1 single anywhere ever, 'I Don't Feel Like Dancing' nudging 'SexyBack' to #2. 'Promiscuous' and 'Rudebox' climb to 3 and 4 respectively, ahead of 'Hips Don't Lie' and 'Chasing Cars', which climbs, again. and that episode of Grey's Anatomy hasn't even aired in the UK yet, I don't think. Lemar debuts at #7, The Feeling climb to #9 in the resulting confusion. The Fratellis fall from #5 to #11. They may be back, they may not. Only other reaaally significant action in the top 20 sees 'Starlight''s physical sales take it to #13.

'BAW-SAY' is #22, Supafly Inc. are #23, 'London Bridge' debuts at #25 on downloads, with Jamelia three places behind. Jealousy's 'Lucy' is YOUR #30. Lorenz's 'Set Me Free' (me neither) is #35, one ahead of The Rapture, who are possibly paying the price for apparently begetting The Sunshine Underground, or something.

As for the £7.99 At Tesco chart, Snow Patrol switch with Kasabian at the top, with Beyonce the highest new entry at #3. The Freddie Mercury Solo Best Of is #6, and The Missy Elliott Solo Best Of is #7. Audioslave are #12, Basement Jaxx are #16, and The Sound Of Bread is #18. Finally, at #37, Coles Corner makes its long awaited top 40 debut, and a couple of tears form in the corners of my eyes. (The self-same 'Mercuries effect' propels the Arctic Monkeys album up a whopping ONE place, from #25 to #26, between Shakira and Ray LaMontagne. It's a painful business)

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 10 September 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

That'll stay at number one for a while, you mark my words you lot.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 September 2006 08:22 (nineteen years ago)

The Killers will prolly knock them off in 2 weeks, hopefully not Fergie Ferg. Unless you're talking about Snow Patrol, that is.

danzig (danzig), Monday, 11 September 2006 09:18 (nineteen years ago)

Also Hawley has debut top 75 single with "Hotel Room" going in at 64.

danzig (danzig), Monday, 11 September 2006 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't The Ocean get to 57 last year?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 09:28 (nineteen years ago)

Is this the funkiest top 5 ever? (making some concessions for Scissors dilution and Robbie's rapping)

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 11 September 2006 11:33 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i was gonna say. not that exactly, but something like it.

a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Monday, 11 September 2006 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

the "fucking worst" top 5 ever, perhaps?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 11:39 (nineteen years ago)

It's probably the first time we've had an all "dancefloor" top 5 since... I dunno, those heady days of "Gym and Tonic".

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 11 September 2006 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

it's nowhere near the worst ffs. it's one of the BEST for a while, with 'sexyback' and 'promiscuous'.

a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Monday, 11 September 2006 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

a strangely consistent (all v dancefloor, as Dom says) and interesting 5, nothing that remarkable on it's own but together quite a dynamic quintet. and notable for lack of MOR guitars, in contrast to the album chart at least.

i'm thinking it's quite uncommon for one producer to have two in the top 5 in any week too. has it happened with anyone else recently? (go as far back as you want for previous example). and is 'Sexyback' Tim's fastest single ever?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 11 September 2006 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

it's nowhere near the worst ffs. it's one of the BEST for a while, with 'sexyback' and 'promiscuous'.

my "worst" opinion confirmed by those two examples.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

i still haven't heard the sizzasizzaz, and the williams is an abomination, but otherwise it's a pretty great top 5. 'promiscuous' is prob my favourite but seems overplayed compared to 'sexyback'.

i am curious as to when marcello stopped liking hott dancefloor beatz as i remember he used to do very much.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 11 September 2006 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

I liked them when they were hott, as opposed to warmedd overr twicee.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

"Sexyback", I'm sorry, the emperor has no clothes. Justin Timberlake is to indie kids what Brad Pitt is to heterosexual men.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 11 September 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

meaning?

a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Monday, 11 September 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

If you don't understand it, I can't explain it.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

I believe Ed O is referring to how when heterosexual man are asked which guy they'd gay up with if they had to, the answer is always Mr Jolie.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

"SexyBack" is the type of song you wish Peter Glaze were still alive to sing on Crackerjack, if only to witness how he would pronounce "twerking."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think it is though. all the str8 men i've asked (who've answered) have said thierry henry.

ed o does exactly the same thing as me, the whole "i don't like it ERGO it is indie" thing, except we don't do it about the same songs too often. and i am right.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

Lex, I am not saying "Sexyback" is indie. I am saying it's lousy.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

"SexyBack" is the musical equivalent of "anyone who says they're mad isn't."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

I believe Ed O is referring to how when heterosexual man are asked which guy they'd gay up with if they had to, the answer is always Mr Jolie.

indeed?

a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

Lex, I am not saying "Sexyback" is indie. I am saying it's lousy.

i didn't really expect you'd like it! it's not tuneful and melodic and gleeful, it's dark and mangled and very weird.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

who would you gay up with nrq?

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

It's dark and mangled and very weird and completely crap. Maybe if it had a chorus they wouldn't have to tell us they were taking us to it.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

who would you gay up with nrq?

am thinking on't.

a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

It's about as dark and mangled and weird as Ray Alan.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

'sexyback' is great you crazy people.

a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

It's about as sexy as Roger de Courcey's back.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

It's the sound of people with no ideas throwing a bunch of shit together knowing that the hipsters and indie kids will praise it as "brave" or "interesting", and that lots of other people are already fans and will buy it anyway.

(Take out the bit about hipsters and indie kids and your single goes in at Number 4 like "Rudebox". But "Rudebox" is a much better record.)

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think it's "brave", i haven't bought an indie record since god knows when, and i dunno if i'd even call it "interesting", but it is lots of fun.

i like 'rudebox' too, but in a different way.

a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

I suppose "Rudebox" is better than "Stand Up And Be Counted" by Hughie Green, but it's all relative.

I believe that Messrs Gaudio and Crewe will be wanting a word with the Scissor Sisters about the opening piano chords on their less-than-scintillating chart topper.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

I totally read that as Messrs Godley and Creme. I think I need help.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

top 3 things about 'sexyback':

1) the vocals! they're treated and mangled in a very effective way, jt's voice is right down in the mix and the words are barely audible but this just makes it sound like a caged animal - this is amplified on the bridge when he starts holding more notes for longer, but the distortion doesn't die down. it all magnifies the general effect of JUSTIN = RAW SEXXX.
2) the chorus isn't very chorus-like (ed is right about this) - in fact the bridge is the real 'chorus' as in catchiest, most tuneful bit of the song. but 'sexyback's regimented structure (constantly kept in line by timba barking "take it to the bridge!" and so on) isn't a POP/ROCK regimented structure but a DANCE one - ie it sounds broadly the same throughout with individual peaks coming out in different ways than trad verse/chorus relationship, and it doesn't really have to end, ever (and of course the relentless 4/4 pulse!)
3) "them other fuckers don't know how to act" oh justin i love you

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

ed, 1) why do you conflate hipsters and indie kids, they are v different things who almost never like the same music (in england anyway), 2) why do you hate hipsters so much?

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

Thing is, you can polish and treat and mangle and amplify a turd any which way, but the end product is still a turd.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

I like Rudebox because it's funny to hear Britain's biggest pop star take his musical cues from TTC and Pitman.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't conflate them. I treated them as two distinct entities.

Also, why did people go ga-ga over "Sexyback" but thought "Me Against The Music" was shit?

1) Maybe. I'll concede this is a taste thing. I don't hear any inherent charisma in Justin. I find him annoying. See Ned's posts on this. "Cry Me A River" was a great song that he overdid (MEMO TO JT: Don't underline your points, just MAKE THEM). This is a bad song that he's underdone.
2) Songs with no choruses can be good. But using a dance structure in such an undanceable song just makes it B-O-R-I-N-G. Really, how are you supposed to dance to that. I'm sure you would all dance to Timbaland's production on "Word Up" by Scary Spice too.
3) Oh come on, that bit's just awful.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

surely it's 'the motherfuckers', but edited to 'mother BOYS' for airplay (to my ears)

'Sexyback' is ultimately frustrating for me cos i feel they could've done more with it. I like his 'YEH!' tho and the 'woo-hoo' beats KT Tunstall. Robbie should've done his 'Rudebox' rap through a vocoder if he wants to go electro so much.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

Robbie's future chart career:
Dec 09 Achy Breaky Heart (w/Woolpackers) 32

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

Also, why did people go ga-ga over "Sexyback" but thought "Me Against The Music" was shit?

love the Rishi Rich mix of the latter but hate Madonna on the track SO MUCH.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

"I'll let you whip me if I misbehave" is better than "themotherfuckers don't know how to act" IMO.

danzig (danzig), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

i liked 'me against the music' and have always done! it's not as GREAT as a madge/britney collaboration should have been (this is entirely madge's fault, sadly) but it and its associated remixes are all very good.

i think justin is very charismatic! i mean, obviously i think he is fucking hott but then i wouldn't fancy him so much if he didn't have charisma. i mean, of all the big popstars i think he's the most successful at conveying a persona which is convincing and coherent and attractive (better than beyoncé and britney, for two, possibly not as good as kelis, on a par with xtina). and i can and have danced v well to 'sexyback': it's all about little jerky foot/hip movements.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

I had "no dancing today" as the Bellamy Brothers' "Let your love flow" but then.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't The Ocean get to 57 last year?

more like 102. "Coles Corner" (the album) entered at 55 though, 1 year ago this week.

danzig (danzig), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

surely it's 'the motherfuckers', but edited to 'mother BOYS' for airplay (to my ears)

first verse "them other boys", second verse "them other fuckers" or "them motherfuckers", third verse he swears but can't make out the whole line

"I'll let you whip me if I misbehave" is better than "themotherfuckers don't know how to act" IMO.

this is very much correct actually. that's a great thing about the whole album, the ease with which justin switches from active sexual predator to passive sexual object

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

We did not fight the punk wars to end up with little jerky foot/hip movements.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Also, why did people go ga-ga over "Sexyback" but thought "Me Against The Music" was shit?

this is a non-issue. but obv because madonna was shit.

a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

i did not, and would not have, fought the punk wars anyway!

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

conveying a persona which is convincing and coherent and attractive

Yes, but he's got no songwriting nous. Nelly Furtado does. Missy Elliott does. Bubba Sparxxx does. Which is why "Maneater" is a brilliant pop record that is brilliant to dance to and inventive and amazing in nearly every way, and "Sexyback" is just weird, a collection of a not-bad bit here and there and a lot of lame sexual predator posturing. Maybe he is a screamer, as the A List and Popbitch have been saying.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Also, Timbaland is as shit on "Sexyback" when he says anything as Madonna was on MATM.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Did Nelly Furtado write "Maneater" (and here's me thinking it was Chinn and Chapman who wrote it, only they called it "Mickey")?

"Maneater" is a terrible pop record.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

'terrible' as in good.

a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

No, "terrible" as in "overrated, outdated pile of stenching crap."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

i think the point of 'sexyback' is perhaps not to showcase timberlake's songwriting! (there is other stuff on the album which will do that.)

'maneater' is terrific! i like 'no hay igual' better though.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

timbaland on 'sexyback' > madge on 'MATM' because "a bit superfluous and not actually good as such but still rather amusing" > "makes me cringe in horror"

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

My reaction to "SexyBack": oh put it away and behave you silly little man.

"Maneater" by Hall and Oates is terrific, I'll give you that.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

this is all based on false premises -- missy elliott, bless her, *doesn't* have songwriting nouse. 'sexyback' is more song-y than most of her recent (ie from last five years) material.

a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, Missy Elliott, I remember all her great oldies.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

'sexyback' is fun as a comeback single but is admittedly weak compared to the rest of the album. Interestingly, if you buy the album in Hong Kong, which is where I am now, you get a free black justin timberlake tie. all the better for whipping.

danzig (danzig), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

Justin really can't carry off a suit that well, it has to be said.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

Perhaps someone can carry off Justin and deposit him in a vat of hydrochloric acid until he repents.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

He's going to be wearing extralarge suits next in a bid to become more like david byrne.

danzig (danzig), Monday, 11 September 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

He's going to be wearing no suits next in a bed to become more like keith chegwin.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

justin in a suit - good
justin out of a suit - better

i wish he would shave, though

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 11 September 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

guess it would be boring to just pass 'maneater', 'sexyback' off as merely OK tracks. but boring is what i am and OK is what they are.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 11 September 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

is life long enough for OK?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

i think they're both good. better them than that beardy ray la montaigne or whoever. better them than sandie thom. better them than snow patrol. etc.

they aren't GREAT, but they increase the gaiety of nations.

a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Monday, 11 September 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

I can't stand that Ray Thom Patrol lot either.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

if pop music is something that's going on around you, rather than something you have to purchase, then better these records than others.

a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Monday, 11 September 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

But better better records than these ones.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

Better better better, than better better, I say.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 September 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

You better you bet.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Bring back You Bet, and have JT as the host.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 11 September 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Can Timbaland down 50 protein shakes in three minutes, can the Furtado recognise a nightclub just by the barking noise her dog would make entering it. That sort of stuff.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 11 September 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

i now have 'better better' by mis-teeq stuck in my head (this is a Good Thing)

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 11 September 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

In the Matthew Kelly or Darren Day tradition? (You Bet xpost)

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

He's got the family entertainer appeal of Kelly, and the smooth good looks of Day.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 11 September 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

But can he cope with the pressure of Nikki Off Big Brother swallowing ten turnpikes while balanced atop Geoff Capes?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 September 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

If not, he could just do a little dance I suppose.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 11 September 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

I Don't Feel Like Dancing >>>> Rudebox > Sexyback >>>> Maneater.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 11 September 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

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It's an unchanged 1-2 this week, as the Scissor Sisters lose anything that made them remotely interesting at #1, and "Sexyback" is still at #2, in a move that's made Charlie Brooker so mad he can't even focus on writing a second hilarious series of Spoons. Piss-Soaked Skank's physicals only take "London Bridge" to #3, and Nelly Furtado, sans big dog, are #4.

Next week's #1 is at five, as The Killers are there with "When You Were Young" on downloads alone. Lex will be along in 5 or 10 posts to speak about this we imagine. Jamelia can only manage a #10 with "IRL" sales as well.

Daniel O'Donnell demands a jumper baked into a cake at #20, whilst the Lostprophets underperform at #23. But then again, they've had a #1 album. What have you done?

Cheeky chirpy backpack futurist and all-round irritant Lupe Fiasco is at #25(physicals) , and Embrace, who invented football, are at #29 (p). Does that guy still write books?

Cherish featuring Sean Paul no not that Sean Paul are at #30 (p), and innovative genre-boundary smashing indie band Larrikin Love get to #32 (p). Gillian Mots' "Trains to Brazil" conspires to make this the year's most Southall-friendly top 40 at #36, and for those of you who were worried that Get Cape. Wear Cape. Fly had a couple of nice singles prior to "The Chronicles Of A Bohemian Teenager" (#38, p), don't worry the album's shit so you can get back to hating him for his name.

ALBUMS. Justin Timberlake is your new number one, which has made Charlie Brooker so mad he can't the tapes of the episodes of The 11 O'Clock Show that he wrote for. The Fratellis are bringing sexless back at #2, and Lemar just wants to love you girl at #3.

Those of you who say Def Jam is over as a hip-hop label are proved FOOLS, as hot upcoming Bay Area MC Lionel Richie scores them a number 28 SMASH, one whole place ahead of Diane Krall, who can have a joint celebration at a top 40 album and getting impregnated by a racist this week. Best of Adam and the Ants is #39. Make your own "stealing a Teletubby doll" gag here. Odds on our Adam being on next year;s Celeb Big Brother?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 17 September 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

five to one, as ridicule is nothing to be scared of, apparently.

mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 17 September 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't heard the Killers single yet because the kids on the bus are never playing it. But the Killers are boys with guitars and I can say without having heard it that it will be terrible and indie.

Teh Lex (edwardo), Monday, 18 September 2006 02:40 (nineteen years ago)

Kelis' album does not even make the top 40 - Is this Wanderland part deux? Why is she flopping? Tis a shame but "Blindfold Me" will probably bring her more notoriety than success.

danzig (danzig), Monday, 18 September 2006 07:20 (nineteen years ago)

i've only just heard 'i don't feel like dancing'! it is...not very good. but the album is very decent.

the fratellis are ghastly.

i'm shocked that i haven't heard the new killers as they bring out the indie past in my rave crew, who all love them. but i am glad that i haven't heard it! it must be terrible.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 18 September 2006 07:34 (nineteen years ago)

I quite like the Fratelli's single.

That said, I dread a whole album.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 18 September 2006 07:44 (nineteen years ago)

i've just bought Wanderland for £2 something via Amazon. i'll buy Kelis Was Here when it's cheaper.

oh and Lex it was the SebastiAn mix of 'Bossy' that is awesome, not the Switch one.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 18 September 2006 07:50 (nineteen years ago)

In albums, Beyonce plummets from 3 to 19 :-)
But Richard Hawley slides from 37 to 45 :-(

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 18 September 2006 08:24 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't heard the Killers single yet because the kids on the bus are never playing it. But the Killers are boys with guitars and I can say without having heard it that it will be terrible and indie.

It isn't indie it sounds like Meatloaf!

And the Switch mix of Bossy is better than the SebastiAn one. Why are me and Vahid the only people to like Switch?

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 18 September 2006 08:58 (nineteen years ago)

Meatloaf IS indie. BOY. GUITAR. WORK IT OUT.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 18 September 2006 09:02 (nineteen years ago)

The whole of indie is merely a snack for Meatloaf.

I almost wrote Metaloaf.

The Killers single is pretty woeful, especially after words like "Meatloaf" and "Springsteen" got my hopes up. What's happened to his voice???

Tom (Groke), Monday, 18 September 2006 09:05 (nineteen years ago)

his voice was anything special to begin with?!

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 18 September 2006 09:18 (nineteen years ago)

It had a clarity and charisma which most indie doesn't, yeah - you could completely hear why they'd got big. Now it seems really ragged.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 18 September 2006 09:19 (nineteen years ago)

They're making that horrible for-the-heartlands powerplay.

Meatloaf IS indie. BOY. GUITAR. WORK IT OUT.

"Bat out of Hell" Meatloaf = hack singer plus producer-who-does-all-the-music therefore R&B at it's most generic and therefore BEST!

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 18 September 2006 09:24 (nineteen years ago)

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Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 18 September 2006 10:35 (nineteen years ago)

KILLERS IN 'NOT BIGGEST ROCK BAND IN THE WORLD YET, BOYO' SHOCKER as 'Where's Vince Clarke When You Need Him?' clocks up another week on top. (I know people are getting rather tired of the whole 'shocker' meme, but it covers so many bases, y'know?) No new entries or major climbers in the 10, with the exception of 'Everytime We Touch' and 'LOL U Cum To Pink' climbing back to 7 and 10 respectively. Bloody technology.

If 'It's Not That Easy' is actually a new entry at 12, as Radio 1 is claiming, I will eat my face. Assuming 'Chelsea Dagger' still being around at #14 doesn't push me to it first. Downloads propel Janet & Nelly to #18 and, pleasingly (cos I think he sounds a bit like Ari Up), Lil' Chris to #19, ahead of Pus y Catdolls (#21), 'I Remember When Angry Anderson Was Young' (#23), The Third The Zutons Single From The Second The Zutons Album (#24), The Third The Automatic Single From The First The Automatic Album (#25), THE MOST VILE AND HATEFUL AND NOXIOUS AND BAD POISON TO HAVE EVER BEEN VISITED ON THIS COUNTRY (#27), Amy Lee Knows What You Did Last Summer (And She Won't Stop Banging On About It) (#32), and, er, Chanel (#39). Annoyingly, Bedouin Soundclash are #33. Bloody students.

Long-play-a-go-go: In a massive upset, Ta-Dah is yr number one, with Elton John at #6 O THE IRONY. DJ Shadow #24, Get Cape Wear Cape Fly #26, Fergie #27, The Rapture #40. Bloody students.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 24 September 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

he bluddy does sound like Ari Up.

Thanks, I was wondering which track that was, that I heard on the rad the other day.

mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 24 September 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

Hi there! Suicidal near-crippled dead pool cert and pro-wrestling superstar Kurt Angle here to talk you through this week's UK top 40!

At #1 for the third or fourth week, I forget, are the Scissor Sisters with "I Don't Feel Like Dancing". I don't feel like dancing either, what with my neck liable to snap like a Pez dispenser at any given moment and that whole "inability to lift my arm above shoulder level" thing. Still, I'd like to see Jake Shears get four snowflakes out of Calloway in this day and age.

The Killers (like me, I'm a killer with suplexes, ankle locks, and spousal abuse!) are still at #2, and Lil Chris is at #3 with "Checkin' It Out", as you're all no doubt "Checkin'" out Youtube to see my triumphant, unable to walk properly due to tendon damage, return to pro wrestling with TNA. Evanescence are at #4 with "Call Me When You're Sober", and I'd certainly like to make Amy Lee "tap out", amirite fellas? Eh? Eh?

Lily Allen is riding through the city on her bicycle at #6, as opposed to my usual mode of transportation these days: ambulances, with a proposed move to hearses by the end of 2007. The Pussycat Dolls "Don't Need A Man" at #7, and that's kind of funny because back in the 60s a "Man" was a slang term for a drug dealer, and I'm fucked out of my head on illegal painkillers and steroids that I don't have anything approaching a prescription for. Did I mention that I was told by doctors to give up wrestling three years ago or face certain paralysis? Three years!

The Cast of the High School Musical are "Breaking Free" at #9, kinda like I broke free from the WWE and Vince McMahon's evil tyrannical demands that I take a few days off wrestling in case my arm falls off in the ring, or that I go and do something stupid like, I dunno, spend an afternoon playing with my son. You're not gonna put on workrate classics with a game of pigskin tossing in the park Vinnie!

Razorlight are #15 on downloads only with "America", the country I won a gold medal for WITH A BROKEN NECK. Only Johnny Borrell understands my true pain. Chip shop propreitor Paolo Nutini is at #20, but when has he ever been on the cover of a Wheaties box? Answer: never.

At #21 Bob Sinclar releases what seems like being his 22nd single of the year so far. Imagine being so engrossed in your work you kept on and on and on and on at it, not worrying about it's quality or the effects it was having on your body? Bob Sinclar isn't a junkie though, so he's better than me. The Streets are featuring Pete Doherty (no, not the 1980s jobber, silly) at #25, and I have nothing in common with the Babyshambles frontman whatsoever.

Chris Lake ft Laura V are at #27 with "Changes", kinda like the changes I've made to TNA with my SHOCKING DEFECTION FROM THE WWE. It's the biggest news story since the Berlin Wall came down, and you can read all about it on Spike TV, Thursdays, 9pm. Diddy's downloads only as well at #30 with "Come To Me". Remember that match I had with Spike Dudley in early 2002? That was a good match, I think.

James Dean Bradfield is at #31 with "An English Gentleman" (specifically "Dynamite Kid" Tom Billington or "The Matchstick Man" Johnny Owen), Bedouin Soundclash return with some stuff they've already done, like all great sportsmen do, at #33, Dirty Pretty Things (like my urine sample) are #34, and Letoya is "Torn", like every fucking muscle in my body, at #35.

OK Go do the hilarious dance at #36 that I could do if only I had anything above 12% mobility, and Us5 are at #38. No jokes.

Kurt Angle (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 1 October 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

Would you like some albums, Billy? Scissors hold Fratellis off top for another week. The 'Bloody students' effect sees climbs for Razorlight (#3), Lillifer (#4), The Kooks (#8), Paolo Nutini (well, y'never know, maybe he's big in Keele - #10) and The Zutons (#12). The 'Bloody students' parents' effect propels Bob Dylan to #7, Colin Barely-There to #21, Katie Melua to #25 and Faithless to #26. Your highest new entry is Jamelia, who lands at #20. Lupe Fiasco is a tidy #31, and Larrikin Love are #37. Borstal, eh? Marvellous.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 1 October 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Larrikin Love were THE FUTURE at one point.

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 1 October 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

You know how, every so often, people are a bit inclined to suggest that the charts are in a state of suck?

Razorlight are #1. David Hasselhoff is #3. P Diddy & Nicole Scherzinger are #4. Bob Sinclar is #5. The Belle & Sebastian lyric you are looking for is "I'm feeling sick, fuck this."

But anyway! MCR debut at #23 on downloads before unleashing a wave of filth-depraved pestilence, or whatever it is they do, on the top ten (probably top 3) next week. Bedouin Soundclash appear to have climbed to #24. Hopefully that'll be that for them. Other than that, Nerina Pallot is #32, and Trivium are #40.

Albums - Killers beat Evanescence by a nose for the top spot. Daniel O'Donnell is the loveliest #10, while Jet underperform quite wildly at #13. Lionel Richie is apparently a re-entry at #15. Marti Pellow has a solo album out, making me even more glad that it has been some time since I last watched Loose Women, and it's at 27. KT Tunstall is keeping music live and woolly at 32, ahead of some best of Rod Stewart at 33, a re-entry for Evanescence's debut at 35, and the best of Sarah Brightman's classical period at 38.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 8 October 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

how are Evanescence still popular?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Sunday, 8 October 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Kerrang has a 60% female readership these days, rock is the new northern house or something.

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 8 October 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not really sure I want to know, but could the release schedule gurus give me some kind of idea what might be No.1 in the middle and end of November?

Tom (Groke), Monday, 9 October 2006 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

probably one of:

take that - patience
robbie - lovelight
all saints - rock steady

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 9 October 2006 10:14 (nineteen years ago)

singles slated for release:

November 6th:

Action Play – He / Blood Brothers
All Saints – Rock Steady
Charlatans – You’re So Pretty
Hilary Duff – Play With Fire
Madonna – Jump
Murder By Death – Boy Decide
Outwork – Elektro
Sugababes – Easy
Take That – Patience
Title – Slippin’ & Slidin’

November 13th:

Bonny Billy – Cold And Wet
Shania Twain – Don’t Shoot The Messenger

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 9 October 2006 10:15 (nineteen years ago)

what is 'easy'? is it good?

'jump' is AMAZING.

i need to hear the hilarity single.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 9 October 2006 10:16 (nineteen years ago)

Jump is OK. Hilary was YSI'ed on Pmists last week! I like it but I don't love it.

"Easy" is off the G Hits album I suppose.

It all could be much worse.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 9 October 2006 10:18 (nineteen years ago)

Take That – Patience


"I get the pressures of life through lack of Patience"....

?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 9 October 2006 10:19 (nineteen years ago)

So, if "Welcome the the Black Parade" gets to #1 next week, are we looking at an Important Social Change in the charts?

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 October 2006 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

1) what is that?
2) no, probably not

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 9 October 2006 10:44 (nineteen years ago)

oh god. Is that time now?

(or next week, anyway?)

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 9 October 2006 10:45 (nineteen years ago)

1) It's the new My Chemical Romance single, Lex. It's basically a big musical number for the RHPS set.
2) Well, emo shall eventually fie nu-indie from the charts, which has been obvious since... 2004 probably. Why do you think the NME's shook at the moment? The more eyeliner in the charts, the less Proper Music By Proper Blokes Drinking Proper Beer there's gonna be. EPOCH SHIFT.

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 October 2006 10:49 (nineteen years ago)

The album features Liza Minelli!

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 October 2006 10:49 (nineteen years ago)

RHPS set?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 9 October 2006 10:51 (nineteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 13,000 for "rocky horror picture show" self-harm. (0.37 seconds)

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 October 2006 10:54 (nineteen years ago)

1) yuck!
2) hasn't emo been massively popular for ages and ages now? if there has been a shift from nu-indie to emo (i can't imagine caring less about this btw) i think it has been occurring gradually for a while, and i don't think finally getting a no 1 is symbolic of much.

who gives a shit about how 'shook' the nme is? god i'm so glad i don't care about rock crit politics.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 9 October 2006 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

I heard a min of 'Easy' yesterday. It's rocky electropop and seems faintly boring.

Badrock Example (Barima), Monday, 9 October 2006 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

oh GOD, i wish people would stop with the 'rocky electropop', it's so bloody underwhelming from pop groups who are worthy of so much better

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

are MCR really archetypal emo? they seem more boybandy and 'pop' than the rest (i.e. better).

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:07 (nineteen years ago)

Emo IS boybandy and pop by definition though!

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i suppose. they just seem more OTT somehow.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:12 (nineteen years ago)

Emo IS boybandy and pop by definition though!

i have no idea what definition you are referring to!

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:18 (nineteen years ago)

Emo is aimed at 15 year old girls! Not on buses tho.

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

And old emo was aimed at teenagers without girls.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:37 (nineteen years ago)

oh demographics, yes, agree (though also snore).

i guess emo also fits into the boyband tradition of its members being pig-ugly as well.

boybands are traditionally a lot more sincere (ie their sincerity being overtly signified regardless of realness) than girlgroups aren't they?

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:39 (nineteen years ago)

i guess the difference is that teenage boys will also love the emo whereas they wouldn't have loved take that or whoever.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:40 (nineteen years ago)

(nb all these so-called teenage kids are totally lame for liking emo and my hackney kidz would totally beat them up and QUITE RIGHT TOO)

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

Post 1970s, yeah. The original girl groups were all sincere "Does he love me, does he not" (and by contrast, the original boybands: Monkees, Bay City Rollers were all more "fun"). Is this back to the fact that girl groups are meant to be more fallible than boybands?

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

i guess the difference is that teenage boys will also love the emo whereas they wouldn't have loved take that or whoever.

There's still a lot of aggro towards emo from teenage boys though, D&D playing metalheads bottling P!ATD off at Reading, NME doing the "BAN THIS EYELINER PERV SCUM" schtick, etc. But yeah, at least there's an inroad into emo for teenage boys that there wasn't in Take That unless you were gay or 11.

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

yeah supremes and shangri-las and their tendency to STARE INTO THE VOID.

girl group fun is heavily tied into vague feminism - the mild rebellion of a girl gang having fun together with no need for boys. there isn't really a boy equivalent.

the key is that SOME teenage boys will love the emo whereas NO teenage boys would have loved take that.

"BAN THIS EYELINER PERV SCUM"

omg i agree with the nme about something :o

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

this is how nazi germany started

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

ban marcello

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:54 (nineteen years ago)

behave

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

BAN BEHAVE

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 October 2006 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

BAN THE BOMB

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 9 October 2006 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

Well, Nazi Germany started as a reaction to berlin based cabaret and all that black eyeliner.

So, consider.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 9 October 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

Exactly. Are we to regress to the Dark Ages of iron and fire? Then we must observe the grievous lessons of that unhappiest of eras in human history...and learn them well.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 9 October 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

i saw the sugababes video, but tbh can't remember a single note.

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:39 (nineteen years ago)

Well it is a collaboration with Orson.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

TWO WEEKS OF EMO as MCR continue to out-silly Razorlight at the top. Highest new entry, tho, is Girls Aloud at #5. On downloads. Hmm... One place further back is Meat Loaf (combineds), with James Morrison failing to dispel rumours that he is in fact the reincarnation of Louis Armstrong at #8. Ordinary Boys Rubbish, Number Ten.

Surprisingly high on the downloads is Jamie T at #13, with Beyonce's 'I Have Been Compiling A List Of Receipts And I Will Beat Your Ass' similarly positioned at #14. Amy Winehouse gets her first top 40 hit at #19, meaning her and Lily Allen can start slagging each other off now, which is nice. Pet Shop Boys get to #23 with 'Numb', The Holloways spearhead the New Wave Of New Mockney Shite at #30, Rogue Traders may or may not be download-fuelled at #33, Cassie probably is at #38, and The Goo Goo Dolls have some new song at #39 in a double A-side with bloody 'Iris', possibly to capitalise on the popularity of the Ronan Keating version, which is possibly the saddest thing to have happened to music this year apart from Sandi Thom.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 22 October 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

And McFly's fanbase propel them to number one, again, just edging Fedde Le Twat. Or Fedde Le Crap. Fedde Le Prat, maybe? Whichever, it's one ahead of th'Aloud, as The Bro-kinnn, The Bea-tinnn and Thur Dammmmd fall to #4. Beyonce measures out her life in bidets at 5, 'Uh-uh-uh... uh!' is #6, and Amy Winehouse - yes, Amy Winehouse - has a top ten single, as 'Rehab' clambers to #7. That Ivor Novello can't be far off now. Rub Sinclar, Meat Chuff and the Scissor Shitters round out the ten.

Bodyrox ft. Luciana look set fair for next week's #2 as 'Yeah Yeah' is downloaded to #11, Cassie's physicals propel 'Long Way 2 Go' to #12, The View get their second #15 single of the year (except I think this might be downloads alone this time), The Magic Numbers get to #16 with a suitably polite amount of fuss, and Rihanna's 'We Ride' is a suitably snoozesome #17. The Kooks should fuck off now that 'Oourgh Laurgh' has peaked at #20, but you know they bloody won't. Reissue of 'Sofa Song' ahoy! Probably. The Raconteurs are #22, apparently, and The Long Blondes are perhaps not entirely performing as they might have hoped at #30. How fat is Dane Bowers? THIS FAT (#35), and The Cooper Temple Clause are the Hope Of The States that are still together at #36.

In the albums, The Brandon Flowers Pops fall from one to five behind FOUR CONSECUTIVE NEW ENTRIES, as short heads and necks separate Robbie Williams from MCR from Meat Loaf from Rod Stewart. In the same way that Sheffield United are a Premiership club, John Legend is #10. At #16, The Ordinary Boys enter their 'fame' period, and A Meat Loaf Best Of is #23. Oh, and Lemar's album climbs from 30 to 17. When asked for his opinion, KASABIAN'S TOM MEIGHAN launched into a STARTLING impression of Worzel Gummidge.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 30 October 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

JK and Joel trailing a BIG ANNOUNCEMENT, inviting guesses.

"Wes returning" was one of them. (hey, they read it out anyway and didn't giggle. Maybe it's a fearrrrrrr!!)

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 30 October 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

DANCE! IS! BACK!

Fedde Le Grand becomes the first faceless Dutch chart-topper in, ooh, years, as Put Your Hands Up For Detroit ascends to the top spot from last week's #2. Bodyrox ft. Her From Portabella slot in right behind, and th'Aloud hold onto #3. Beyonce and MCR switch spots at 4 & 5, with U2 & Green Day taking The Skids to #6. Presumably this will climb next week, probably to #1. Winehouse stays at 7, Razorlight fall to 8, and, completely against the run of play, a McFly single doesn't sell that well in its second week - 'Star Girl' slides from #1 to #9. Oh, and Bob Sinclar's #10.

Below that, there's a quite literally proverbial slew of new entries. All Saints come all the way back to #11, though I think their physical single is out Monday, with Simon Webbe at 12 and Depeche Mode at 13. 17-19 sees new entries from Babyshambles, Jamiroquai and Keane, which ought to scare the kids away from the hard stuff for a while yet. Damon Albarn Knows Him Off The 'London Calling' Sleeve at #22, Tenacious D oh dear god why #24, PANTS!¬ are #25 (presuming the physicals are out next week for that one), with The Game at #26. And, weirdly, your final set of newbies are in a clod of three too - Klaxons #29, Sugababes #30 (given how often that's been on The Hits lately, you'd imagine it'll climb next week) and Sean Paul ft. Keyshia Cole #31.

Albums - GIRLS ALOUD HAVE A #1 ALBUM! For possibly the first time ever! The Sound Of Girls Aloud deposes I Am Robbie Williams And I Have Got Mad Skilliamz after a week, with Amy Winehouse debuting at #3. The Who are #9, The Crazy World Of Madeleine Peyroux #12, Tony Bennett As Seen On The Hit ITV Show X-FACTOR #15, An Aerosmith Best Of #19, ANOTHER FUCKING MICHAEL BALL ALBUM #22, Deftones #33, and Absolutely Definitively Timelessly Best Of Smokey Robinson #39.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 5 November 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

'Put Your Hands Up For Detroit' = already a guilty sodding pleasure

banrique (blueski), Sunday, 5 November 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

Matter of fact, this is the highest-charting Girls Aloud album since their debut got to #2 - WWTNS? peaked at 6, and Chemistry only managed #11.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 5 November 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

Hurrah for GA at number one! And keeping Carmel at number three!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

according to a chart i saw on teletext PANTS! as you disrepectively call them were at 46 last week so I'm thinking they've peaked. :(

pscott (elwisty), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

I do love how these posts either get 4 reponses or 400.

Anyway, new number one time as Knobby Titslinger's good personal friends, Westlife, have the 13th chart topper of their career (13 times as many as Foreigner) with The Rose. THE TWO BIGGEST BANDS IN THE WORLD BAH GAWD, on the other hand, can only get "The Saints Are Coming" to #2, so pwnd. All Saints are back and rubbish at #3. I'm sure that Observer Women's Monthly shoot accounts for at least 30% of those sales.

Sugababes jump from 30 to #8 with their physicals for "Easy", whilst Madonna blah blah old blah blah horse blah blah Cockney husband is at #9. I could write for Star Stories with incisive comic wit like that. Except I couldn't because I'm aware of some things that have actually happened in the past eight years.

Downloads only for Akon (#12) and Timberlake (#14), and George Michael + One Sugababe = #15. I think you may be able to do a quadratic equation if you link that to "Easy".

Kasabain declare #17 "a load of rubbish, it's just a number innit, people don't want numbers these days they want words like lyrics in a song, innit?". Nothing good has ever come from Leicester. Infernal have a jig about with some dead lesbian's corpse as "Self Control" is your #18.

Paul Fucking Weller (#22), Robbie Williams downloads only (#28), and Taio Cruz (#29). Cruz has just taken a pause from being best man at his friend's wedding to do a quick line, look:

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000JFXTF4.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V38722756_.jpg

Fuck that Amazon whitespace.

Everything Xtina loves goes away in the end, as Hurt bombs at #33, downloads only for America's sweethearts Snow Patrol (#37), and the Pigeon Detectives certainly have a wacky name at #39. Do you think they might sound a bit like Milburn from that name? Do you?

Long-players:

SEVEN NEW ENTIRES in the top 10. In order of how much I want to hear them:

Cliff Richard duets album (#8)
McFly are back (#6)
Angelis = Il Divo plus boobies (#2)
"Virtual Insanity" was OK i suppose (#1)
Forces Sweetmeal Katherine Jenkins (#5)
Damien "fucking" Rice (#4)
Paul Weller actually calls an album "Hit Parade" (#7)

There's not enough room for the Magic Numbers in the top 10 (lol fatteys) so they're #11, Abba's #1s collection is at #15 for the, what, six gay first years who don't have "Gold" already, Moby's best of officially less popular than everything else so far (#23), and The Charlatans best-of is a triumphant #38. 37 weeks on the top 40 for The Kooks.

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Sunday, 12 November 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

'Take Me Back To Your House' is the first Jaxx single to not make top 40 then.

2 american 4 u (blueski), Sunday, 12 November 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

EFFING WESTLIFE.

Is there anything coming out this week which could knock them off?

Tom (Groke), Monday, 13 November 2006 10:30 (nineteen years ago)

Akon ft Eminem, probably, which isn't really an improvement tbh.

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Monday, 13 November 2006 10:32 (nineteen years ago)

'easy' is i think the worst sugababes single to date, it's so...limp. amelle is actually the best thing about it!

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 13 November 2006 10:34 (nineteen years ago)

Westlife should do a 'Wedding Present' next year so they can beat Beatles record for most #1s.

2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 13 November 2006 10:53 (nineteen years ago)

Why don't they just do a Wedding Present and change their name so nobody knows it's them and they sell no records, right am I?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 13 November 2006 10:55 (nineteen years ago)

Angelis vs All Angels FITE!

(ps All Angels fits the "Il Divo + boobies" description better innit)

zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 13 November 2006 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

It's funny how the Armistice Memorial concert at the Albert Hall is now another marketing opportunity. (this year: Chris DeBurge and Il Divo + boobies.)

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 13 November 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

i forgot that Elvis had already beaten Beatles record for most #1s posthumously last year.

2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Why would anyone put their hands up for Detroit? I wonder what random industrial European city will be namechecked in the next US #1.

musically (musically), Saturday, 18 November 2006 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

Lil Scrappy - "Dusseldorf, Muhfucka"

Rodney... (R. J. Greene), Sunday, 19 November 2006 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

PUT YOUR HANDS UP FOR CORBY

And while your hands are up, why not let them give a brief clap for your new number one, jovial criminal Akon and his good personal chum Marshall "Eminem" Mathers, who take "Smack That" to #1. I make it this year's third worst number one so far, any advance?

jtftti climbs to #2, and downloads alone put reformed Take That at #4. Yes, they are going to be bigger than Robbie Williams v.v.v.soon. I wanna be like Gary Barlow, but in fact I'm more like etc etc etc

Robbie himself uses his real world sales to take "Lovelight" from 28 to 8. Xtina climbs 22 places with "Hurt", and US tv soundtrackers and occasional useless indie act Snow Patrol go from 37 to 18.

Downloads only for YOUR Children In Need official single "Downtown" by The Lovely Emma Bunton (#24). Remember when Tom Ewing spoke about how bands make zinging them too easy by choosing accurate single titles? Little Man Tate- Man, I Hate Your Band (#26). And Macka-B is a lot whiter, indier, and more-than-one-personier than I seem to remember him, "First Love" is #40.

ALBUMZ

Local George Michael "25", #1. Sugababes single collection #3, and All Angels are #9. Care. Jack Black's funny songs about that one time he did beer pong to Slayer are #10, and non-threatening black hunk Simon Webbe is #11.

Best of Depeche Mode is #18, Andy Abraham is yr #19, and Cat Stevens first album since 1912 is #20. The Game will probably be climbing as soon as his singles hit the charts at #21.

You know how it was obvious to EVERYONE FUCKING EVER apart from some fucktard broadsheet music journalists that Jarvis Cocker's comeback was gonna do more wood than Wickes? #37. LOL I REMEMBER 1998 as well for All Saints #40.

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Sunday, 19 November 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

I make it this year's third worst number one so far, any advance?

!!!!! how can you be so bad at listening to music sometimes.

fyi the 3rd worst no 1 of the year is razorlight (only arctic monkeys and my chemical romance are worse)

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 19 November 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

You're insane.

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Sunday, 19 November 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

ILX POSTER BELIEVES THERE TO BE AT LEAST THREE WORST SINGLES EVER THAN "I WISH I WAS A PUNK ROCKER"

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Sunday, 19 November 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

i would probably place westlife beneath s thom as well, making 'i wish i was a punk rocker' the 5th worst of the year overall

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 19 November 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

(s thom's redeeming feature = inspiring spizzazzz to term it 'hollaback mum')

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 19 November 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

DOM RANKS 'EM


1. Meck featuring Leo Sayer- Thunder In My Heart Again
2. My Chemical Romance- Welcome To The Black Parade
3. Scissor Sisters- I Don't Feel Like Dancin'
4. Shakira featuring Wyclef Jean- Hips Don't Lie
5. Orson- No Tomorrow
6. Nelly Furtado- Maneater
7. Gnarls Barkley- Crazy
8. Justin Timberlake- Sexyback
9. Fedde Le Grande- Put Your Hands Up For Detroit
10. Ne-Yo- So Sick
11. Chico- It's Chico Time
12. Beyonce featuring Jay-Z- Deja Vu
13. Madonna- Sorry
14. McFly- Star Girl
15. Westlife- The Rose
16. McFly- Don't Stop Me Now / Please Please
17. Lily Allen- Smile
18. Arctic Monkeys- When The Sun Goes Down
19. Notorious BIG featuring Diddy, Nelly, Jagged Edge & Avery Storm -Nasty Girl
20. Akon featuring Eminem- Smack That
21. Razorlight- America
22. Sandi Thom- I Wish I Was A Punk Rocker (With Flowers In My Hair)

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Sunday, 19 November 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

LEX RANKS THEM

1. Nelly Furtado - Maneater
2. Justin Timberlake - Sexyback
3. Beyoncé ft Jay-Z - Deja Vu
4. Shakira ft Wyclef Jean - Hips Don't Lie
5. Madonna - Sorry
6. Fedde Le Grand - Put Your Hands Up For Detroit
7. Akon ft Eminem - Smack That
8. Ne*Yo - So Sick
9. Gnarls Barkley - Crazy
10. Notorious BIG ft Diddy, Nelly, Jagged Edge & Avery Storm - Nasty Girl
11. Scissor Sisters - I Don't Feel Like Dancing
12. McFly - Star Girl
13. Chico - It's Chico Time
14. Lily Allen - Smile
15. Orson - No Tomorrow
16. McFly - Don't Stop Me Now/Please Please Please
17. Meck ft Leo Sayer - Thunder In My Heart
18. Sandi Thom - I Wish I Blah Blah Blah
19. Westlife - The Rose
20. Razorlight - America
21. My Chemical Romance - Welcome To The Black Parade
22. Arctic Monkeys - When The Sun Goes Down

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 19 November 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

i win because i put a space on BOTH sides of the hyphen ie am correct

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 19 November 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

haha i actually think 4 of the acts in my top 5 have released EVEN BETTER singles this year other than their no 1! ('promiscuous' and 'no hay igual', 'my love', 'irreplaceable' and 'ring the alarm', 'get together' and 'jump')

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 19 November 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

The Take That single:

What would the level of excitement be if that single had the artist designation of "Gary Barlow" on it?

I can't hear anyone else on it.

mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 19 November 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...
The Kaiser Chiefs are YOUR number one.

That is all.

Dom Passantino, Sunday, 25 February 2007 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

P.S. 'That is all' = Kelis continues to make the year's most surprahhhhh-zin comeback at #3, Akon and Fray 4 and 5, Gwen and Akon at 7 (Radio 1 has no idea what constitutes a new entry at present so it just throws stars at anything), SOPHIE ELLIS-BEXTOR WILL GUT YOU LIKE A FISH #8, Mark Owen's Wonderful World of ELO #10, Justin Timberlake's Wonderful World of Late-Period Moody Blues #11, STAN-DING-IN-THE-WAY-OF-#13, Junior Jack looks at women #20, Lily Allen is VERY NICE to her brother #23, Actual New Entries for Fergie (#27), The Killers (#29), The Magic Numbers (#36) and, er... Mumm-Ra. Who are #40.

Amy Winehouse is #1 in the albums again. The Brits effect is delayed for a week for some reason. Everyone you can think of that would climb climbs. Corinne Bailey Rae is at a massive #31. New: The Fray (#4), Johnny Cash At San Quentin (#20), Lucinda Williams (#30), The Gossip (#33).

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 25 February 2007 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

the sophie ellis-bextor single is a bit underwhelming as a song but an unstoppable and awesome monster with the video, she sells it so much.

'lil star' no surprise after gnarls barkley last year surely? i like it, it's sweet.

lex pretend, Sunday, 25 February 2007 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

why do you like the SEB video so much? i don't see what is that awesome bout it

blueski, Monday, 26 February 2007 00:42 (nineteen years ago)


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