So, what say you, Jim?
― derekerdman (Derek Erdmany), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 05:51 (seventeen years ago) link
So, aside from Neil Young's "Helpless" this movie is a GIGANTOR DUD.
Or, how about the part where they talk about "women on the road" and how much they like to get on top of them and how important they are to their great sludgey garbage-country rock AND THEN INTRODUCE JONI MITCHELL. Even I was offended.
― derekerdman (Derek Erdmany), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 05:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 05:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 06:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marmot (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 06:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― A Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 06:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― derekerdman (Derek Erdmany), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 06:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― derekerdman (Derek Erdmany), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 06:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 06:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 06:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― derekerdman (Derek Erdmany), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 06:40 (seventeen years ago) link
So C and D at the same time. Can I pick that?
― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 06:47 (seventeen years ago) link
A few great performances (Helpless, The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down) + the sheer volume of starpower at this show + Scorsese's kinetic direction + the majestic decadence of Winterland + a turkey dinner = Thanksgiving Day satisfaction.
When you're trotting out so many guests at your final show, obviously the actual music is going to kind of take a backseat to the spectacle.
― cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 09:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 11:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jim M (jmcgaw), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 11:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― musicjohn73 (musicjohn73), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 12:56 (seventeen years ago) link
that's some pretty good (unintentional(?)) rock criticism there on Scorsese's part
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link
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― My Little Ruud Book (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 13:58 (seventeen years ago) link
If you don't like Van Morrisson in Last Waltz, you don't like rock or being fucking wasted and fat and and awesome singer.
Manuel is fucking amazingly bonkers the whole time, the song where he plays drums (evangeline, it's one of the "set ups" not live)...he plays like some kinda wierd heroin muppet, he moves his body is such strange ways.....the scene where he's talking about how the name Honkies was "a little too street", i always wished i was an electronic music dude cuz i would sample that and have a song called "a little to street".....
also crewcial: the clapton/robertson guitar showdown where robbie pretty much hands God his fucking lunch until crapton decides "oh dude he's killing me" and actually delivers on his last solo turn....
also as everyone mentioned "don't do it" is so fucking epic...
ronnie hawkins is a goofball, but i still love it when he takes off his waylon cowboy hat and fans off robbie's guitar during the solo to cool things down...watch it robbie you might catch fire.
― M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― My Little Ruud Book (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tronid K (tronidk), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jim M (jmcgaw), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link
However, anybody who doesn't think the Band rocks should then watch Festival Express.
no shit they rip it up in fest exprs.
― M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― My Little Ruud Book (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― Picnics and Pixie Stix (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link
But Derek, I fucking love The Band, and they're like the epitome of a lot you don't like. But great sludgey garbage-country rock? Insert "punk" for "country" and you've got My War.
Deeeeeaaamn!!!!
― regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Picnics and Pixie Stix (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― strom (strom), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link
I can't believe some of the sweeping statements on here. Yes, some of the performances are disappointing, particularly Dylan's, and the pious singalong of I Shall Be Released has none of the Big Pink version's mystery and longing, but as pointed out, it's beautifully shot and has more than its fair share of goodness and entertaining last gasp of the 60s rockistocracy antics (Van's trousers and high kicks, Neil Diamond's totally OTT and awesome turn, Ronnie Hawkin's showmanship, Neil Young's cocaine encrusted nasal hairs).While Rock Of Ages is the truly great Band live recording, they're still on fine form here. Don't Do It is glorious and Levon is just immense on Dixie. The Joni and Emmylou tunes are lovely but I think the absolute highlight is Muddy Waters. He's just utterly, utterly awesome.The pointless jam you get as a DVD extra is k-rub though. Also, the interview segments were a massive influence on Spinal Tap, so even if you're not a fan of the music in the Last Waltz, you can't deny that it spawned one of the greatest comedy films evah!
― Stew (stew s), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link
I love this movie, overdubs and all.
― bear, bear, bear, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 02:02 (sixteen years ago) link
this is on tv right now. every time i see it i like danko more and robbie less. danko, it's like you just wanna find some way to keep him safe. he's so great, but he seems so unequipped for life outside the band.
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 05:27 (fourteen years ago) link
which i guess is an unfair characterization, because he really had a busy post-band career and all (and was obviously better equipped than richard manuel). but there's just something goofy and endearing and almost innocent about him in the movie, even though he always seems at least half-loaded. and he's so much fun to watch on stage.
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 05:31 (fourteen years ago) link
There's a Scorsese season coming up in Vienna and they're showing this on the big screen. I am so there.
― anagram, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 07:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Am I the only one who thinks that Danko and Robertson were the spittin' images of De Niro and Keitel in Mean Streets?
― henry s, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 13:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Marty probably noticed that
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link
I read somewhere that Neil Diamond said "just try and top that" to Dylan as he left the stage, to which Dylan said something like "how, by falling asleep?"
― henry s, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, I heard that story too, I can't really see Neil Diamond being that arrogant, after all he was about the only one there not coked off his nut
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Which reminds me of another story, about a sequence having to be re-edited because Neil Young a huge line of coke-encrusted snot dangling from his nose... allegedly
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 13:36 (fourteen years ago) link
it's actually just a small crystal hanging off his left nostril, iirc. i remember reading that they tried to fuzz it out, but you can see it if you're looking for it. (and if you're not looking for it, you probably wouldn't notice.) neil's also chewing gum sort of manically through the whole thing in a very cokey fashion. or looks like he's chewing gum, he could be just grinding his teeth. the accounts of the backstage coke room at that show are pretty crazy. wish there was footage of that.
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link
also, this is a pretty nice backstage report.
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Levon's bio has a great section on the utter ridiculousness of Neil Diamond's presence at the concert. Basically, Robbie was producing him at the time and got him on the bill.
― QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link
all this talk of coke-encrusted faces...is that why Dylan wore whiteface on the Rolling Thunder tour?
― henry s, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link
"His munificence was engorged with snow" - Ginsberg on Dylan during the Rolling Thunder tour
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I'll bet it was
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link
i still like this version of "coyote" by joni mitchell better than the one on hejira
― Thought you were regal/Now who needs "Boston Legal"? (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes on "Coyote"; I was disappointed when I later heard the Hejira version; not that it's not great, but I'd expected something more like the Last Waltz version.
It's corny but I dig Joni's silhouette (and vocals) on "Helpless".
― Houston (Euler), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah Joni shoulda done a whole album w/ the Band! Kind of shows how good they were that they could slip into that weird Joni Jazzy vibe so easily.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Didn't Robertson and Danko totally flub the changes to "Helpless," which apparently pissed Young off enough to call them out for it later on (thought I read about it in "Shakey")? I don't notice it in the film or on the soundtrack, so I'm assuming the screw-ups were corrected during the overdubs. You can see Robbie and Richard making faces and looking up to the ceiling during the song, as if they were jokingly trying to hide their mistakes.
― Jazzbo, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link
they go into the chorus early -- i think you would've been able to hear it if you were there, but they mixed it out on the soundtrack ... maybe "Helpless" is just too easy for the Band ...
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link
frankly neil isn't that great on this anyway
Van on the other hand....what a terrible terrible suit but such an amazing performance
i love this film but god seriously robbie is such a douche throughout this whole thing.
it drives me nuts how he always steps up to the mic during choruses and stuff so ppl watching the film will get the incorrect impression that he can actually sing a fuckin' note....so gross the way he's mincing around for scorcese during all the interviews too.....
even worse cuz he hogs all the camera time and he's by far the LEAST interesting member of the band IMO
― Thought you were regal/Now who needs "Boston Legal"? (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link
otm x 5
― Hugh Manatee (WmC), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes, Robbie R is a total dick in this
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link
he can play pretty well and he did write some of the Band's best tunes, but yeah, he's pretty unbearable.
― feed them to the (Linden Ave) lions (will), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link
robbie r is an amazing guitarist and wrote some great tunes, but he is hilariously lame in this movie. i can't believe his whole "the road has been so tough, we've been on the road so long, etc." comments throughout ... If you look at their schedule post 1966, The Band was not exactly the hardest touring group in the world, by a long shot. also kind of insane that there's not a single Manuel-penned song on The Last Waltz ...
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link
it's funny reading across the great divide, which i like overall even though i think hoskyns is too much of a fanboy about northern lights southern cross which i just don't like that much...but anyway he sort of points to one of the big things in the band's decline after the third album is manuel's decline as a songwriter which put everything on robbie....
i mean obv robbie is a GREAT songwriter but still manuel sometimes seemed to tap into something more magic and intuitive and special to me, whereas robbie is really a great craftsman, and later on it seems like he's straining to write sort of mythic americana stuff that feels more false (this begins on stage fright and gets worse as time goes on)
― Thought you were regal/Now who needs "Boston Legal"? (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, Robertson is a supreme jerk in the film. I gather the "we're tired" lines were referring to their earlier days with Ronnie Hawkins etc. in the early 60s. According to Helm's autobio they played some tough places. But in 1978 it sounded like a lot of bullshit.
― Houston (Euler), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
"we're tired" (of staying up all night doing coke in L.A. with clapton and scorcese)
― Thought you were regal/Now who needs "Boston Legal"? (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost yeah, In A Station & Whispering Pines are pretty much my favorite Band songs -- I think you're right about Manuel being more intuitive/magical than Robertson. Robbie seems like he tries REALLY hard (and comes up with great stuff regularly), whereas w/ Manuel, you can imagine him just sitting down and having those songs come out. It really is a tragedy he didn't write more ...
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link
i remember one of the goddamned wost things i ever heard was Robbie hawking a new solo record on one of the late night talk shows circa mid-90s.
― feed them to the (Linden Ave) lions (will), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link
i think scorcese deserves a lot of blame for how robbie comes across in the film but he deserves an infinite amount more credit for capturing the concert so beautifully so i don't know....
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Robbie was tight with Scorcese. There was a lot of criticism at the time that Scorcese was setting Robbie R up as the "star" of the Band.
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Huh. I was thinking he deserves credit for not hiding (via editing) what a dick RR is.xpost
― Hugh Manatee (WmC), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah but it is weird -- doesn't the movie start with Robbie doing "takes" of his interviews? It does sort of make him out to be the most artificial of the Band members ...
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
xp but i think scorcese fuckin' loved it!
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I believe excessive amounts of cocaine can impair judgement
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
doesn't the movie start with Robbie doing "takes" of his interviews?That’s actually one of my favorite parts of the film — a classic Scorsese trick. That and watching Danko adjust his hat during the sloppy jam on “Old Time Religion.”
― Jazzbo, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link
my fav line in the interviews is when manuel says they were called the honkies but that name was "a little too street"
― Thought you were regal/Now who needs "Boston Legal"? (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link
robbie's best moment is onstage when crapton's string breaks and he fucking owns "god" in the guitar duel
― Thought you were regal/Now who needs "Boston Legal"? (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link
The bottom line is, the movie's closer to fiction than a documentary, but it's great nonetheless.
― Jazzbo, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Manuel breaks my heart in the Last Waltz, because he's so wasted. In Festival Express he's more...elegant.
Robertson wrote my favorite Band songs ("Get Up Jake", "Across the Great Divide", "The Weight"). I don't know that Manuel wrote more "naturally"...is that because he seems more "authentic"? I'm pretty suspicious of that. I've never heard Robertson's solo albums, but I've meant to do for a long time.
― Houston (Euler), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm not sure "natural" is the right word, but I guess to me a great Robbie song seems like he had a great idea and really executed it well
whereas, a song like "Sleeping" off of Stage Fright, i can't even quite put my finger on why it's so great...what's so spooky about it, it doesn't even make like literal "sense" but the way he delivers lines is so affecting to me..."magic" is the best word to me...
like "sad old ships...a morning eclipse...i spent my whole life guessing" gives me actual goosebumps (just happened a minute ago) but i couldn't tell you what it "meant"
― i'm beasting off the riesling (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, I know what you mean. "Sleeping" is terrific; the drums on the bridge are fabulous. I love "In A Station" too. Manuel wrote the most elegant Band songs, I think ("Whispering Pines" too). And oh man do I love his drumming.
― Houston (Euler), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah actually him playing drums in those staged sequences (the stuff that's not from the concert) is some of my fav stuff, he looks so weird when he plays like strange puppet
― i'm beasting off the riesling (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link
okay Caravan is an awesome song but van morrison roaring @ u is not v. tender
― plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 8 November 2009 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link
ringo is cute in a zizek sorta way in it tho
http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo305/lejospopo/ringo.jpg
― plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 8 November 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link
always gonna love this movie
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Monday, 9 November 2009 00:34 (fourteen years ago) link
weird, i just watched this on Friday. Man, poor Rick Danko during the soundstage songs. dude looked haggard
― TGAAPQ (Mr. Que), Monday, 9 November 2009 00:36 (fourteen years ago) link
manuel has the weirdest drum playing mechanics in history. love that man.
― The looming shadow of the big baller/shot caller (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 9 November 2009 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i always regret that I didn't go see the 90s incarnation of the Band during their last hurrah. Even if it would be kinda an oldies act, just seeing Dank, Helm and Hudson onstage would've been great. I saw Hudson open for Mercury Rev once. It was bizarre. He was great, his band was bad. He played a lot of saxophone actually.
― tylerw, Monday, 9 November 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
i would love to have gone back in time and stolen bologna with those dudes
― TGAAPQ (Mr. Que), Monday, 9 November 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
After hearing what a classic this was I found it a huge disappointment.
The theme tune created for the film was beautiful, "The Night They Drove Dixie Down" is brilliantly performed, some of the interviews are nice, Ronnie Hawkins is fun, there is an impressive clip of someone's solo material that got me interested (Danko?) but most of the rest of it seemed just like any other sloppy celebrity sing-along you get at televised festivals and big charity gigs.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 9 August 2013 12:12 (ten years ago) link
yea i don't see it as a classic in the way i see the band's actually good albums (s/t, big pink, etc.) as classics. i see it as a classic as far as depictions go of coked-out 70s rock n roll excess, and for that, it truly is a classic.
― marcos, Friday, 9 August 2013 13:02 (ten years ago) link
Classic if only for this scene alone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-rTkqn-4qg
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Friday, 9 August 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link
emmylou harris is so beautiful there
― marcos, Friday, 9 August 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link
On the one hand, I think almost every performance of Band material here is the definitive version of that song, particularly the Levon songs (Cripple Creek and Dixie obliterate the studio versions). On the other hand, almost everything else about this movie is upsetting and vile. A nightmare of cocaine narcissism and litigation and self-promotion. Scorsese letting Robbie think he could act almost ruins the whole thing.
And I'll never forgive Scorsese for botching Muddy Waters' performance--they didn't even record Caldonia, which is the better of the two songs he did, and Mannish Boy was recorded by accident on one camera, a sickening oversight when Scorsese lets the camera linger so lovingly on Robbie Robertson doing coke and talking shit. And that great version of Down South In New Orleans doesn't make the movie at all while Neil Diamond does.
Overall though, a great movie and a better album that has no business being either. The "look at us, doing mountains of blow in west LA and deciding we're gods" aesthetic almost derails it at every turn, but the songs are too good to kill the proceedings completely.
― kaleb h. (Everything You Like Sucks), Friday, 9 August 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link
haha, i don't know, i love this movie. music/cocaine/narcissism/fashion/singalongs... it's all great.
― tylerw, Friday, 9 August 2013 16:39 (ten years ago) link
yeah I'm with tyler. I unreservedly love it
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 August 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link
even van morrison yelling @ me
TURN IT UP
― tylerw, Friday, 9 August 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link
RADIO
― waterface, Friday, 9 August 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link
JUMPSUIT
― tylerw, Friday, 9 August 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link
i spent a lot of time trying to figure out wtf van was wearing
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 August 2013 16:45 (ten years ago) link
I've had this sitting on my hd for 3 years now and can never get in the mood to sit through it.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 9 August 2013 16:47 (ten years ago) link
this is one of those things that I think is hilariously fun to watch but I wouldn't argue that it's actually objectively good, it's excesses are both part of the appeal and part of the reason why it's appeal is limited
― joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 August 2013 16:47 (ten years ago) link
That's a good way of putting it
― waterface, Friday, 9 August 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link
agreed
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 August 2013 16:49 (ten years ago) link
Levon's account of the filming in This Wheel's On Fire is pretty funny. "Robbie's singing great...into his switched-off mike! Haw haw haw!" Or when the rest of the Band got into an argument with Robbie and Levon said, "Why don't you ask your new friend Neil Diamond? Haw haw haw!"
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 9 August 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link
i was reading something about how after robertson quit The Band, Danko tried to get Richard Thompson to replace him. which would've been interesting.
― tylerw, Friday, 9 August 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link
That would've been PHENOMENAL. Holy crap.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 9 August 2013 16:59 (ten years ago) link
That story sounds a bit too good to be true
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Friday, 9 August 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link
it's in the richard thompson bio from a while back -- it does sort of seem like a rumor, don't know how far along it got...
― tylerw, Friday, 9 August 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link
Levon Helm hated this movie. Hated it. And i gotta agree with the man, Robertson is a complete and utter embarrassment throughout.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 9 August 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link
I wouldn't have noticed it unless someone else said so but someone told me that the other members are sniggering at Robertson throughout the film as he talks, but I thought they might have just been high or could be laughing at anything.
I thought many of the songs were spoiled by unnecessary embellishments and additions, like "The Weight" in particular. Sometimes it seems like everyone wants to compete too much for attention. Things like one singer saying "take the load off" and then someone having to add in "oh yeah you take the loooooad offff".
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 9 August 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link
I disagree with the posts above about Robertson's guitar playing on this thing. Maybe i'm biased because he seems like the worlds biggest prick, but he plays the same goddamn thing every song. Sounds like shit.
Great anecdote from Helm's book: he went to the premier with Hawkins. At the end of the thing Hawkins says something like "I could have sworn Manuel was in the band when we had the concert. Was he even in this thing?"
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 9 August 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
van morrison's suit is the best
― usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 August 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link
LA LA LA LA
LA LA LA
― waterface, Friday, 9 August 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link
haha
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 August 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link
according to ilxor chris b. Manuel was 33 (!!) when this was shot...he looks like fuckin 50 and beat up jesus christ
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 June 2015 21:35 (eight years ago) link
haha is that right? holy crap.
― tylerw, Monday, 1 June 2015 21:39 (eight years ago) link
this is on netflix instant now, btw, for those (like me) who haven't seen it
― Karl Malone, Monday, 1 June 2015 21:39 (eight years ago) link
let the coke flow!
lots of feral looking men it this movie
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 June 2015 21:42 (eight years ago) link
Richard George Manuel (April 3, 1943 – March 4, 1986)
you should watch it! it has its problems of course, but it is extremely entertaining. xxp
― tylerw, Monday, 1 June 2015 21:43 (eight years ago) link
The Band are great, obviously, but Caravan and Mannish Boy make the movie.
― thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Monday, 1 June 2015 21:56 (eight years ago) link
was about to say, worth watching for the van performance if nothing else!
had always assumed danko was the baby of the band for some reason, but turns out he was born the same year as manuel and robertson.
― no lime tangier, Monday, 1 June 2015 21:59 (eight years ago) link
i saw the post-TLW lineup, musta been '84 or so
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 June 2015 22:04 (eight years ago) link
I love the version of Coyote by Joni
Neil Diamond is the fucking worst in this, one of the most grating performances ever
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 June 2015 22:25 (eight years ago) link
Figured revive would be because of Netflix.
The Band are great, obviously, but Caravan and Mannish Boy make the movie.― thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili)
Always thought the single camera on Muddy was an aesthetic choice, like he was trying to shoot it the way Ozu would.
― Monstrous Moonshine Matinee (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 00:00 (eight years ago) link
i tried watching this on netflix but oddly there was no sound for the non-performance parts. the sound came back in with every song tho.
hopefully it doesn't do that for you guys.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 00:08 (eight years ago) link
Nah was fine for me
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 11:39 (eight years ago) link
Not a big Joni fan, but love her backing vocals on Helpless, too - a Neil/Joni duets alb would've been so cool
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 11:43 (eight years ago) link
Can't recall if I've seen footage of "It Makes No Difference" in Last Waltz or just imagined it from the fantastic recording on my 2cd set, but it's prime Band, Robertson shreds the solo to pieces, Garth sax soloes, Rick's singing is beautiful, song totally rocks.
― niels, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 11:56 (eight years ago) link
yeah danko seems really haunted you can tell he doesn't want it to end
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 13:48 (eight years ago) link
When I was 13 or so and just getting into rock, mostly the Who & LZ, my dad, who I describe as a pretty casual music fan, basically made me watch "The Last Waltz". I didn't love all of it at first, but man this movie is fucking seared into my brain.
I've basically lifted all of my stage moves from the Ronnie Hawkins & the Van Morrison performances.
I just sort of randomly decided to watch this over the wknd and almost immediately started texting UMS.
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 14:09 (eight years ago) link
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, June 1, 2015 6:25 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
both otm
― marcos, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 14:17 (eight years ago) link
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― tylerw, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 14:19 (eight years ago) link
dylan is so great in this, so grouchy at first and then suddenly he sees someone he must know in the audience and becomes extremely happy.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 14:20 (eight years ago) link
all the backstory and anecdotes about this are so great
― marcos, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 14:24 (eight years ago) link
Question: what do the buttons that seemingly everyone is wearing say?
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link
http://theband.hiof.no/band_pictures/TLWbutton.jpg
― tylerw, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 14:58 (eight years ago) link
I was really hoping they be "Have a Coke With Danko!"
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link
Ronnie Hawkins is a god for 1) strutting around like he fuckin' owns the place and 2) have zero respect for the "importance" of the event
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 16:11 (eight years ago) link
man listening to late period Manuel live stuff on YouTube, he would be dead in 2 years after this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YznZZkDTyo
or actually just months
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 16:12 (eight years ago) link
"Slow down, Willie boy, you're heart's gonna give right out on you":(
oops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWkWd1Z8Xng
holy shit @ those
― droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 16:22 (eight years ago) link
yeah those 80s manuel recordings... pretty raw.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 16:23 (eight years ago) link
that "rockin' chair" is sort of the real version of tom wait's theatrical ballads
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link
i think i'm gonna get depressed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGrucjh971k
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 19:35 (eight years ago) link
so crazy how few songs manuel wrote, but they're all so good.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link
the Band is odd, like the Replacements in that there's one guy (Robbie/Westerburg) that literally did almost everything but the real soul and spirit of the band is in the other guys (the Stinson bros./Manuel-Danko-Helm)
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_4L4MeTvg8
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 19:40 (eight years ago) link
god my c&p today :/
jesus this stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYxReI1ZYU8
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link
apparently his last show
oof yeah. such a dangerous keyboard tone going on there...
― tylerw, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link
This guy, he had something.
― Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link
i took a couple somewhat late-coming Band fans to see the movie mayb 10 years ago and they kinda hated Hawkins.
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link
aw i think he's funny i bet he like called scorcese "marty" and gave him a nuggie
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link
I kind of love the fact that Hawkins has a fairly prominent role in Heaven's Gate.
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 20:49 (eight years ago) link
His build up from a moan to a growl to popping his eyes wide open and screaming is amazing
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link
At one point, all the cameras except László Kovács' were shut down as Muddy Waters was to perform "Mannish Boy".[9] Kovács, frustrated by Scorsese's constant instructions, had removed his communications headset earlier in the evening and had not heard the orders to stop filming.[10] As Scorsese frantically tried to get other cameras up, Kovács was already rolling and able to capture the iconic song by the blues legend. "It was just luck," Scorsese recalled in the DVD documentary, The Last Waltz Revisited.[9]
― new noise, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link
^Awesome, thanks.
The Hawk almost stole the show, but I guess he got beat out by Van the Man and Muddy. Like how he sort of still treated them like they were his backing band and he was the star.
― Faron Young Folks (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link
Those Manuel recordings are impressive... it's kind of like seeing something you're not supposed to see, a level of intimacy that's... private. I dunno.
― niels, Thursday, 4 June 2015 18:01 (eight years ago) link
here's someone you know for sure: neil diamondthanks very much
― mookieproof, Saturday, 18 May 2019 03:53 (five years ago) link
according to ilxor chris b. Manuel was 33 (!!) when this was shot...he looks like fuckin 50 and beat up jesus christ― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, June 1, 2015 4:35 PM (three years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, June 1, 2015 4:35 PM (three years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Had this same revelation the other day.
― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 May 2019 04:49 (five years ago) link
― thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Monday, June 1, 2015 5:56 PM
i would throw in 'dixie' and 'it makes no difference' . . . but yeah
voodoo chili how do you rate this 'caravan' vs the 'it's too late to stop now' version on yr list?
this, linked above, is great
― mookieproof, Saturday, 18 May 2019 20:41 (five years ago) link
The last waltz version has a drunken, spasmodic energy that is awesome in the context of the film, but it’s not really what I turn to “caravan” for, honestly.
The live version on my list is quite a bit softer, and stretched out to 9 mins—a lot of the time, I want the outro to last forever and in that version, it does. There’s also a great moment in that version when Van calls for the sax player to do a solo, and before he starts, he makes a little noise that sounds like he was just forcefully woken from a nap.
― i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Saturday, 18 May 2019 23:05 (five years ago) link
<3
― mookieproof, Sunday, 19 May 2019 06:10 (five years ago) link
I only saw this recently and it made me feel grubby. There's something anodyne about the whole thing, characterised by Robbie who has a peculiar dead-eyed blankness about him. I wonder if all the prior knowledge about Robertson's interventions and his selective choreographing to practically eliminate Hudson and Manuel had some effect. Anyway, dud, mostly, save for Joni who lights up the whole damn thing and Van.
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Sunday, 19 May 2019 09:55 (five years ago) link
don't do it: 10/10coyote: 10/10caravan: 10/10helpless: 8/10neil diamond doin his thing: 8/10mannish boy: 10/10ophelia: 10/10stage fright 9/10cripple creek 10/10
the rest of the movie could be robbie robertson swimming in a river of piss and it'd still be a fuckin classic, this footage is priceless
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 19 May 2019 15:25 (five years ago) link
otm
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 19 May 2019 15:40 (five years ago) link
lots of cocaine residue on the emulsion here
(Marty freely admits he nearly died)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 May 2019 15:48 (five years ago) link
thirded xp
― Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 May 2019 15:51 (five years ago) link
mannish boy: 10/10
fucking 20/10 christ
― mookieproof, Monday, 20 January 2020 06:34 (four years ago) link
oh yeah
― We Jam von Economo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 January 2020 13:21 (four years ago) link
neil diamond doing his thing -27/10
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 20 January 2020 13:57 (four years ago) link
Coming to Criterion next year
https://www.criterion.com/films/29460-the-last-waltz
― piscesx, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 18:16 (two years ago) link
New 4K restoration and on UHD - definitely getting this!
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 20:46 (two years ago) link
The full concert 'House Camera' version is still up on YT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbEL--AMBUk
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 21:14 (two years ago) link
Ha, wow. So they cut half of it out??
― piscesx, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 22:59 (two years ago) link
Sort of. The 'House' version is the video feed captured from the in-house camera system at the Winterland, and was never considered for inclusion in the film. It's pretty limited visually, but it covers basically the whole show, including alot of stuff Scorsese's crew didn't get, or got and subsequently was lost in post-production, plus all the original audio before the overdubs made for the film and album.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 23:31 (two years ago) link
The actual movie is only like 1/3 of full show, hence the inclusion of the interviews and the studio retakes of tracks Robertson thought would come off better as duets.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 23:39 (two years ago) link
Yeah, don't forget the four-CD box set Rhino put out. Even the original two-CD/triple-LP soundtrack was clearly much longer than the film, but that concert really went on forever.
Honestly, the film got the best parts. As live albums go, the original soundtrack was pretty good, but not as good as Rock of Ages (and not nearly as good as the vastly improved update Live at the Academy 1971). All the previously unreleased stuff on the box set was merely okay, nothing I would personally miss.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 16 December 2021 02:18 (two years ago) link
holy crap Danko on 'Makes no Difference'...so good
― calstars, Friday, 27 May 2022 15:07 (two years ago) link
Yes
― 20 Preflyte Rock (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 27 May 2022 15:37 (two years ago) link
He seems to do that one very well live, even after the Band broke up.
Here's another from a popular bootleg - from Levon and Rick's 1983 tour, this is a soundboard recording from Starry Night in Portland, Oregon. (The original taper took the first generation cassette that was patched into the board and digitized it for trade.)
Song's at 11:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbH5MkKuMkI
― birdistheword, Friday, 27 May 2022 15:51 (two years ago) link
Can’t forget the Garth on the saxophone either on that oneDamn
― calstars, Friday, 27 May 2022 21:14 (two years ago) link
Recently learned about the Sadies & Neko Case's live version of "Evangeline" w/Garth on accordion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stIrlS4flEA
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 28 May 2022 00:38 (two years ago) link
“And the dawn don’t rescue me no more”Fuck
― calstars, Saturday, 28 May 2022 20:31 (two years ago) link
Say what you want about this movie/concert/album, (as Wayne Robins did here but Ronnie Hawkins performance of "Who Do You Love" is all time, maybe up there with Muddy Waters and Van the Crazy Man.
― Once Were Chemical Brothers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYPVyJwzerM
loved his energy in the movie, and as a talking head in the robbie robertson doc.
seemed like a gregarious character :(
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link
Although I see it didn’t even make Aero’s list.
― Once Were Chemical Brothers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link
Think I’m gonna check out those Muscle Shoals records mentioned elsewhere.
― Once Were Chemical Brothers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link
I particularly like Richard's approach to Primitive Piano on "Who Do You Love."
― Once Were Chemical Brothers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 21:16 (one year ago) link
Just noticed some audience members shouting “The Hawk!” before Robbie finishes introducing him.
― Once Were Chemical Brothers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 21:27 (one year ago) link
Ah, as you mighta heard, we gotta couple of friends joining in with us tonight. (Applause) Sixteen years ago, when we started, we started with a guy- "The Hawk!" - you mighta heard him. We'd like to start with him. The Hawk, Ronnie Hawkins.
― Once Were Chemical Brothers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link
Aaaah, Aaaaaah, Aaaaaaaah, AAAAAAAAH!
― Once Were Chemical Brothers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link
Spotify renders that simply as "Woah."
― Once Were Chemical Brothers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link
danko tho
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 04:43 (one year ago) link
Fucking Garth
― calstars, Saturday, 11 June 2022 22:11 (one year ago) link
Who do you love?
― The Crazy World of Encyclopedia Brown (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 June 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link
This played here last night. It was so damn LOUD that my friend and I (and multiple other people) went to complain.
Yes, I know that’s part of the ethos or whatever but goddamn
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 6 November 2023 14:07 (six months ago) link
“ Or, how about the part where they talk about "women on the road" and how much they like to get on top of them and how important they are to their great sludgey garbage-country rock AND THEN INTRODUCE JONI MITCHELL. Even I was offended.”
I caught that too, it was gross
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 6 November 2023 14:08 (six months ago) link
Wasn’t familiar with The Band in any meaningful way prior to this, though while watching realized I’d encountered a few songs in the wild.
As an exercise in musicianship this was pretty fun. Neat to see Bob Dylan enjoying himself and loved the Joni Mitchell song, which I hadn’t heard before somehow.
But at some point during one of the many interludes I leaned over to my friend and muttered “this just makes me want to rewatch This Is Spinal Tap.”
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 6 November 2023 14:13 (six months ago) link
Another thought, and it’s the same thought I had during Shine A a Light (which I wasn’t as impressed by in terms of performance): holy shit, how expensive was it to tour this production?!? And I’m not talking about the famous special guests, but the proper band and (if they were involved) the horn players and such?
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 6 November 2023 14:19 (six months ago) link
Simple: they didn't tour the production. In the past they had only used horn sections live on special occasions (like the recording of Rock of Ages), and most of the arrangements in The Last Waltz were repeats from those sessions.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 6 November 2023 14:56 (six months ago) link
They didn't tour it, it was a one-off. Wiki doesn't give a budget but says the whole thing was financed by Warner Bros., who only agreed to fund it if the film included Dylan's performance. There was an anxious moment when Dylan suddenly said he didn't want to be filmed, but Bill Graham talked him round.
xp
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Monday, 6 November 2023 14:56 (six months ago) link
Thanks Xpost
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 6 November 2023 15:05 (six months ago) link
I love certain highlights but haven’t sat through the whole thing in decades and don’t plan on doing so anytime soon.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 6 November 2023 22:48 (six months ago) link
I wish they'd have left Neil's coke booger in and removed the prominent Confederate flag instead, tbh.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 November 2023 22:49 (six months ago) link
after Neil Diamond does his song doesn't Robbie say "thats a great song" or something?
Robbie co-wrote that song and produced that album, which says "produced by Neil Diamond" on the cover very prominently. That's pretty unusual for a 70s rock record. He's not exactly Phil Spector or even a Beatle or whatever.
― Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 02:51 (six months ago) link
xgau:
Beautiful Noise [Columbia, 1976]This is a monstrous record. The "rock" star who broke the Broadway barrier seems to be thinking Big Musical, in the urban sentimental mode (complete with Evil, of course) that does such small justice to the challenge of New York. Although fellow urban sentimentalist Robbie Robertson can achieve an awesome (almost fulsome) fullness with rock instrumentation, his production is basically pop program music. Yet somewhere in my cockles I found Diamond hooking me as I listened for the last time and I had to admit that it takes a special kind of chutzpah to create a monster. C+
― dow, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 03:11 (six months ago) link
Robbie? Urban? that's an interesting take.
― Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 03:14 (six months ago) link
Urban on his father's side, and xgau may have been thinking along the lines of his Nothern Lights---Southern Cross review:
... the pure comeliness of every melody on this album led to an immediate infatuation. As I listened to the words, however, infatuation turned to mild affection, for the best of these songs is sentimental, and the worst (the two that are set in the city) are grossly sentimental. Only Garth Hudson, who has turned into a synthesizer natural, saves things in the end, and just barely. B+
― dow, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 04:20 (six months ago) link
He's from Toronto I believe? That's kind of a big city.
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 07:42 (six months ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 August 2013 17:45 (ten years ago) bookmarkflaglink
^^^
somehow i only just watched this for the first time ever
neil diamond is fine you goofy mob lol (and better than fkn clapton)
― mark s, Sunday, 26 November 2023 21:18 (six months ago) link
I used to think it was a leisure suit Van has on but it’s not quite that, plus the hue of it changes as if one were watching an old color television like a Quasar or Magnavox.
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 November 2023 21:36 (six months ago) link
i too take my leisure in a tight puce undershirt
― mark s, Sunday, 26 November 2023 21:45 (six months ago) link
*high kick*
rip
― calstars, Sunday, 26 November 2023 21:56 (six months ago) link
🥁
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 November 2023 21:58 (six months ago) link
Leisure suit…pants suit…jump suit!
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 November 2023 22:01 (six months ago) link
Is it purple? Is it brown? Some kind of textile version of a mood ring maybe?
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 November 2023 22:02 (six months ago) link
It’s one of those things that’s perhaps best left unexplained
― calstars, Sunday, 26 November 2023 22:13 (six months ago) link
You can’t dust for sequin shade.
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 November 2023 22:21 (six months ago) link
Sorry, one word, pantsuit. Trouser suit to you Britishes.
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 November 2023 22:23 (six months ago) link
Some say that they're coming back in a gardenBunch of carrots and little sweet peasI think I'll just let the mystery be.
― dow, Sunday, 26 November 2023 22:44 (six months ago) link
er, DeMent, I meant.
― dow, Sunday, 26 November 2023 22:45 (six months ago) link
Robbie? Urban? that's an interesting take.He's from Toronto I believe? That's kind of a big city.
Sure, but nobody would describe the Band's music as urban, would they? Even if they did their first album in NYC and their second in LA.
― Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 02:59 (six months ago) link
"Hobo Jungle" and "Rags and Bones", the two songs under reference, are both set in the city.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 03:16 (six months ago) link
...and, the songs under accusation of being grossly sentimental, that makes Robertson an "urban sentimentalist" a year later.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 03:18 (six months ago) link
Yeah, although xgau admits he likes the *sound* of the songs, and even gives the album a B+. Don't get so hung up on lyrics, 'gau (seems like he does that more and more). But since The Band did have some good lyrics some time before that record came out, guess he was struck by the difference.
― dow, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 04:05 (six months ago) link
He seems to consider Islands their worst, though I've never heard it. Is he right? Seems plausible at that point (I take it the title had to do with gaps).
― dow, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 04:08 (six months ago) link
Islands was an odds'n'sods set (that according to Robbie was promoted as a proper album) they delivered as a contractual obligation to Capital so Warners could release The Last Waltz.
If you like The Band, it's worth hearing as sort of a last hurrah of the original lineup as a studio band. They cover "Ain't That A Lot of Love" of which I know not a bad version. "The Saga of Pepote Rouge" is a sweet sing-along that appears on comps. "Twilight" is them doing Reggae.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 04:25 (six months ago) link
I seem to also recall it was front-loaded with weaker material, a fatal move in the vinyl days.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 04:27 (six months ago) link
my friends watch this every year on Thanksgiving
this year I went away thinking that Dr. John steals the show
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 04:32 (six months ago) link
Re: Islands, I think the last three tracks are keepers: "Georgia on My Mind," "Knockin' Lost John" and "Livin' in a Dream" (probably my favorite of the three). I enjoy them but don't care for the rest though "Pepote Rouge" and the Christmas song definitely have their fans.
The Last Waltz was my first real introduction to Dr. John. I only knew him as a piece of pop culture (Popeye's Chicken, Dr. Teeth's inspiration) and not as a musician - I was completely unfamiliar with "Such a Night" and absolutely loved it. The whole film was my introduction to a lot of things: "Helpless," "Caravan," Paul Butterfield, and above all the Band, and speaking as a kid who didn't know any of those songs or those particular people, the movie was amazing. So despite all the issues one would have with it (for good reason), I still think there's a lot that's great about it that can still make converts.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 04:48 (six months ago) link
there's a lot you could sneer at, make fun of, poke holes in -- but as a once-a-year Thanksgiving ritual, it's brilliant. i always look forward to making fun of Neil Diamond, laughing hysterically at Van Morrison's kicks, grooving to Joni and Muddy Waters
the part where Clapton's guitar strap falls off and Robbie, without missing a beat, jumps right in and smokes him: classic
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 05:02 (six months ago) link
I don’t know if I buy that Robbie smoked him
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 05:10 (six months ago) link
Re: Neil Diamond, I'm not a fan, but I love his Bang recordings. Wish they played one of THOSE songs, it would've made the case for his inclusion rock solid. (Besides their history together, Robbie wanted Diamond as a representative of the Brill Building - every guest was supposed to represent one vital aspect of rock history up to that point, minus the proto-punk and avant-garde side that Robbie never seemed to care for.)
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 05:23 (six months ago) link
XP Fresh Smoked Clapton
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 05:27 (six months ago) link
I don't remember Diamond in that; what songs did he do, just ones from xxxpost Beautiful Noise? Don't know if it was out yet, but shoulda done "Sweet Caroline" with The Band x Toussaint's horns, also yeah Brill Building.
― dow, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 05:38 (six months ago) link
“Dry Your Eyes” iirc
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 06:01 (six months ago) link
And yeah the Bang stuff is great.
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 06:15 (six months ago) link
minus the proto-punk and avant-garde side that Robbie never seemed to care for
Now pining for the Iggy & Zappa collabs that could have been.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 06:16 (six months ago) link
Robbie: "The man...IGGY POP! He was in the Stooges!"
<The Band + Iggy perform shaky version of "Search & Destroy">
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 06:18 (six months ago) link
<Zappa's guitar strap breaks, Robertson smokes him by picking up the solo on "Pumping The Poodle (Variations #2)">
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 06:21 (six months ago) link
Robbie: "The man...IGGY POP! He was in the Stooges!"<The Band + Iggy perform shaky version of "Search & Destroy">
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 07:03 (six months ago) link
Moe Tucker continues all the while unfazed and focused on pounding out the rhythm on her upended bass drum, doesn’t miss a beat.
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 07:06 (six months ago) link
David Crosby makes face to show that he is not amused, picks fights with all and sundry, including Graham Nash and a very out of it Michael Clarke.
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 07:13 (six months ago) link
i want this as my xmas card, i'm inbetween levon and garth lookswise at this point in my life
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― buzza, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 10:03 (six months ago) link